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To be fair, per the article...
"While our menu was not intended as a cultural meal, we acknowledge that the timing was inappropriate, and our team should have been more thoughtful in its service," the Aramark statement said.
However...
Aramark has found itself in similar situations in years past, including an incident in 2011 where UC California-Irvine, an Aramark client, was criticized for serving a "MLH Holiday Special" that featured chicken and waffles.
So, yeah, there's something rotten in Aramark.
|
[
"What’s wrong with chicken and waffles?",
">\n\nThe problem is when someone responds to Black History Month by pushing stereotypes.\nOutside of context, nothing would be wrong.",
">\n\nis chicken and waffles a stereotype?\nI'm honestly asking. I've never heard of that.",
">\n\nIt had way less to do with Chicken and Waffles being served, and them serving it with watermelon.\nThey could have served it with any other fruit and it would be a non-issue.",
">\n\nChicken waffles and watermelon are all delicious. As a black person this seems kind of a hyperbolic complaint.\nI get the thought behind it but unless they served it in black face I don’t see the issue.\n😂",
">\n\nThe black students at the middle school took issue with it. That's where the push came from and it was specifically regarding adding watermelon to it.",
">\n\nIf the black kids took this at a dig at them, I should imagine it's not a school where they feel valued most other days either",
">\n\nHonoring Black History month by emphasizing stereotypes is pretty tone deaf.\nShit man, I will fuck up some chicken, waffles and watermelon. Just can't imagine someone thought that was a good idea for the first day of black history.",
">\n\nThis.",
">\n\nFor those asking what the problem is with chicken and waffles -\n\nThey served something different from what was planned for the day, and the meal is attached to stereotypes.\nThey went out of their way to serve a watermelon dessert, which has been confirmed as being an extremely rare item.\nThe company did something similar in 2018, and terminated employees who organized it, indicating there was at least something going on that shouldn't have occurred. [src]\nThey also had an issue in 2011 (I wasn't aware of it until reading this article, only the 2018 issue) with UC California-Irvine.\n\nIf it had already been planned and was a common meal, I don't think there'd have been an issue. But for them to change the planned meal on the first day of Black History Month and to include items that were outside the norm is a really bad look for the company and its employees at that school.\nIt's also telling that this is the third time (that we know of) that this has occurred with the same company.",
">\n\nWere green meals used to subjugate and disparage an entire race like watermelon was?\nWhat about pasta-stuffed pizza, or tacos? Either of those specifically used to disparage an entire race?\nNo? Then none of those examples compare.\nAww, what's wrong? Don't like being called out for using the argument racist people do?\nToo fucking bad.",
">\n\nNot the person you responded to, and I am still learning American history as I go. How did white Americans use watermelons to disparage black Americans?",
">\n\nThis is unacceptable! Under no circumstances should anyone ever apologize for serving chicken and waffles. The only acceptable apology is for not serving more chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nI worked in NYC schools for a while. What they should be apologizing for at most schools is serving a couple frozen processed chicken nuggets on a half-toasted eggo and calling it \"chicken and waffles\".",
">\n\nThat's not chicken and waffles! That's a being poor and just eating whatever you have in the freezer kind of meal.",
">\n\nI mean that's more or less the kind of budget public schools are working with. Not to mention that the people working in these kitchens are paid extremely poorly as well. Like 99% of problems in education in the USA, the solution is \"we need more money\". But hey as long as we can make sure grown men get paid millions of dollars to throw balls around and Jeff Bezos can play astronaut who cares about kids, right?",
">\n\nKeep in mind if you're looking at that and going \"wow that's actually a good pay\" keep in mind this is New York City, one of the most expensive spots in the country to live in. I was a high school special education teacher there for five years (and lived there before with even lower paying jobs for 7-8 years). Even if you're at the upper level of that pay scale you're pretty much putting 50% of your income straight into rent, even if you live in a cheap area.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it’s not easy to live here.",
">\n\nDefinitely isn't. I lived there 2006-2019, ended up landing in Michigan after a brief stint in North Carolina, I'm happy I spent such a large chunk of formative adult years there (I moved there right after college) because as someone who grew up in a small, non-diverse New England rural town it was a huge contrast. These days though when people ask if I miss NYC my answer is \"all the things I miss I can get when I go visit\".",
">\n\nThere's nothing wrong with chicken and waffles on any day.",
">\n\nNo, but there's a huge fucking issue with serving watermelon to black students on the first day of BHM...you know, the actual issue.",
">\n\nWhere do you even get fresh watermelon from in February? It's not in season until the end of summer.",
">\n\nLikely grown in south America somewhere.",
">\n\nThe one I got over the weekend said it came from Chile.",
">\n\nApologize for what. This is stupid.",
">\n\nThey changed the menu to serve Chicken and Waffles and Watermelon in honor of BHM."
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I love what you did there.
|
[
"What’s wrong with chicken and waffles?",
">\n\nThe problem is when someone responds to Black History Month by pushing stereotypes.\nOutside of context, nothing would be wrong.",
">\n\nis chicken and waffles a stereotype?\nI'm honestly asking. I've never heard of that.",
">\n\nIt had way less to do with Chicken and Waffles being served, and them serving it with watermelon.\nThey could have served it with any other fruit and it would be a non-issue.",
">\n\nChicken waffles and watermelon are all delicious. As a black person this seems kind of a hyperbolic complaint.\nI get the thought behind it but unless they served it in black face I don’t see the issue.\n😂",
">\n\nThe black students at the middle school took issue with it. That's where the push came from and it was specifically regarding adding watermelon to it.",
">\n\nIf the black kids took this at a dig at them, I should imagine it's not a school where they feel valued most other days either",
">\n\nHonoring Black History month by emphasizing stereotypes is pretty tone deaf.\nShit man, I will fuck up some chicken, waffles and watermelon. Just can't imagine someone thought that was a good idea for the first day of black history.",
">\n\nThis.",
">\n\nFor those asking what the problem is with chicken and waffles -\n\nThey served something different from what was planned for the day, and the meal is attached to stereotypes.\nThey went out of their way to serve a watermelon dessert, which has been confirmed as being an extremely rare item.\nThe company did something similar in 2018, and terminated employees who organized it, indicating there was at least something going on that shouldn't have occurred. [src]\nThey also had an issue in 2011 (I wasn't aware of it until reading this article, only the 2018 issue) with UC California-Irvine.\n\nIf it had already been planned and was a common meal, I don't think there'd have been an issue. But for them to change the planned meal on the first day of Black History Month and to include items that were outside the norm is a really bad look for the company and its employees at that school.\nIt's also telling that this is the third time (that we know of) that this has occurred with the same company.",
">\n\nWere green meals used to subjugate and disparage an entire race like watermelon was?\nWhat about pasta-stuffed pizza, or tacos? Either of those specifically used to disparage an entire race?\nNo? Then none of those examples compare.\nAww, what's wrong? Don't like being called out for using the argument racist people do?\nToo fucking bad.",
">\n\nNot the person you responded to, and I am still learning American history as I go. How did white Americans use watermelons to disparage black Americans?",
">\n\nThis is unacceptable! Under no circumstances should anyone ever apologize for serving chicken and waffles. The only acceptable apology is for not serving more chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nI worked in NYC schools for a while. What they should be apologizing for at most schools is serving a couple frozen processed chicken nuggets on a half-toasted eggo and calling it \"chicken and waffles\".",
">\n\nThat's not chicken and waffles! That's a being poor and just eating whatever you have in the freezer kind of meal.",
">\n\nI mean that's more or less the kind of budget public schools are working with. Not to mention that the people working in these kitchens are paid extremely poorly as well. Like 99% of problems in education in the USA, the solution is \"we need more money\". But hey as long as we can make sure grown men get paid millions of dollars to throw balls around and Jeff Bezos can play astronaut who cares about kids, right?",
">\n\nKeep in mind if you're looking at that and going \"wow that's actually a good pay\" keep in mind this is New York City, one of the most expensive spots in the country to live in. I was a high school special education teacher there for five years (and lived there before with even lower paying jobs for 7-8 years). Even if you're at the upper level of that pay scale you're pretty much putting 50% of your income straight into rent, even if you live in a cheap area.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it’s not easy to live here.",
">\n\nDefinitely isn't. I lived there 2006-2019, ended up landing in Michigan after a brief stint in North Carolina, I'm happy I spent such a large chunk of formative adult years there (I moved there right after college) because as someone who grew up in a small, non-diverse New England rural town it was a huge contrast. These days though when people ask if I miss NYC my answer is \"all the things I miss I can get when I go visit\".",
">\n\nThere's nothing wrong with chicken and waffles on any day.",
">\n\nNo, but there's a huge fucking issue with serving watermelon to black students on the first day of BHM...you know, the actual issue.",
">\n\nWhere do you even get fresh watermelon from in February? It's not in season until the end of summer.",
">\n\nLikely grown in south America somewhere.",
">\n\nThe one I got over the weekend said it came from Chile.",
">\n\nApologize for what. This is stupid.",
">\n\nThey changed the menu to serve Chicken and Waffles and Watermelon in honor of BHM.",
">\n\nTo be fair, per the article...\n\n\"While our menu was not intended as a cultural meal, we acknowledge that the timing was inappropriate, and our team should have been more thoughtful in its service,\" the Aramark statement said.\n\nHowever...\n\nAramark has found itself in similar situations in years past, including an incident in 2011 where UC California-Irvine, an Aramark client, was criticized for serving a \"MLH Holiday Special\" that featured chicken and waffles.\n\nSo, yeah, there's something rotten in Aramark."
] |
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Chicken and waffles is fucking awesome
|
[
"What’s wrong with chicken and waffles?",
">\n\nThe problem is when someone responds to Black History Month by pushing stereotypes.\nOutside of context, nothing would be wrong.",
">\n\nis chicken and waffles a stereotype?\nI'm honestly asking. I've never heard of that.",
">\n\nIt had way less to do with Chicken and Waffles being served, and them serving it with watermelon.\nThey could have served it with any other fruit and it would be a non-issue.",
">\n\nChicken waffles and watermelon are all delicious. As a black person this seems kind of a hyperbolic complaint.\nI get the thought behind it but unless they served it in black face I don’t see the issue.\n😂",
">\n\nThe black students at the middle school took issue with it. That's where the push came from and it was specifically regarding adding watermelon to it.",
">\n\nIf the black kids took this at a dig at them, I should imagine it's not a school where they feel valued most other days either",
">\n\nHonoring Black History month by emphasizing stereotypes is pretty tone deaf.\nShit man, I will fuck up some chicken, waffles and watermelon. Just can't imagine someone thought that was a good idea for the first day of black history.",
">\n\nThis.",
">\n\nFor those asking what the problem is with chicken and waffles -\n\nThey served something different from what was planned for the day, and the meal is attached to stereotypes.\nThey went out of their way to serve a watermelon dessert, which has been confirmed as being an extremely rare item.\nThe company did something similar in 2018, and terminated employees who organized it, indicating there was at least something going on that shouldn't have occurred. [src]\nThey also had an issue in 2011 (I wasn't aware of it until reading this article, only the 2018 issue) with UC California-Irvine.\n\nIf it had already been planned and was a common meal, I don't think there'd have been an issue. But for them to change the planned meal on the first day of Black History Month and to include items that were outside the norm is a really bad look for the company and its employees at that school.\nIt's also telling that this is the third time (that we know of) that this has occurred with the same company.",
">\n\nWere green meals used to subjugate and disparage an entire race like watermelon was?\nWhat about pasta-stuffed pizza, or tacos? Either of those specifically used to disparage an entire race?\nNo? Then none of those examples compare.\nAww, what's wrong? Don't like being called out for using the argument racist people do?\nToo fucking bad.",
">\n\nNot the person you responded to, and I am still learning American history as I go. How did white Americans use watermelons to disparage black Americans?",
">\n\nThis is unacceptable! Under no circumstances should anyone ever apologize for serving chicken and waffles. The only acceptable apology is for not serving more chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nI worked in NYC schools for a while. What they should be apologizing for at most schools is serving a couple frozen processed chicken nuggets on a half-toasted eggo and calling it \"chicken and waffles\".",
">\n\nThat's not chicken and waffles! That's a being poor and just eating whatever you have in the freezer kind of meal.",
">\n\nI mean that's more or less the kind of budget public schools are working with. Not to mention that the people working in these kitchens are paid extremely poorly as well. Like 99% of problems in education in the USA, the solution is \"we need more money\". But hey as long as we can make sure grown men get paid millions of dollars to throw balls around and Jeff Bezos can play astronaut who cares about kids, right?",
">\n\nKeep in mind if you're looking at that and going \"wow that's actually a good pay\" keep in mind this is New York City, one of the most expensive spots in the country to live in. I was a high school special education teacher there for five years (and lived there before with even lower paying jobs for 7-8 years). Even if you're at the upper level of that pay scale you're pretty much putting 50% of your income straight into rent, even if you live in a cheap area.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it’s not easy to live here.",
">\n\nDefinitely isn't. I lived there 2006-2019, ended up landing in Michigan after a brief stint in North Carolina, I'm happy I spent such a large chunk of formative adult years there (I moved there right after college) because as someone who grew up in a small, non-diverse New England rural town it was a huge contrast. These days though when people ask if I miss NYC my answer is \"all the things I miss I can get when I go visit\".",
">\n\nThere's nothing wrong with chicken and waffles on any day.",
">\n\nNo, but there's a huge fucking issue with serving watermelon to black students on the first day of BHM...you know, the actual issue.",
">\n\nWhere do you even get fresh watermelon from in February? It's not in season until the end of summer.",
">\n\nLikely grown in south America somewhere.",
">\n\nThe one I got over the weekend said it came from Chile.",
">\n\nApologize for what. This is stupid.",
">\n\nThey changed the menu to serve Chicken and Waffles and Watermelon in honor of BHM.",
">\n\nTo be fair, per the article...\n\n\"While our menu was not intended as a cultural meal, we acknowledge that the timing was inappropriate, and our team should have been more thoughtful in its service,\" the Aramark statement said.\n\nHowever...\n\nAramark has found itself in similar situations in years past, including an incident in 2011 where UC California-Irvine, an Aramark client, was criticized for serving a \"MLH Holiday Special\" that featured chicken and waffles.\n\nSo, yeah, there's something rotten in Aramark.",
">\n\nI love what you did there."
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>
Chicken and Waffles do not go with watermelon. That’s the issue. This was intentionally a racist joke.
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[
"What’s wrong with chicken and waffles?",
">\n\nThe problem is when someone responds to Black History Month by pushing stereotypes.\nOutside of context, nothing would be wrong.",
">\n\nis chicken and waffles a stereotype?\nI'm honestly asking. I've never heard of that.",
">\n\nIt had way less to do with Chicken and Waffles being served, and them serving it with watermelon.\nThey could have served it with any other fruit and it would be a non-issue.",
">\n\nChicken waffles and watermelon are all delicious. As a black person this seems kind of a hyperbolic complaint.\nI get the thought behind it but unless they served it in black face I don’t see the issue.\n😂",
">\n\nThe black students at the middle school took issue with it. That's where the push came from and it was specifically regarding adding watermelon to it.",
">\n\nIf the black kids took this at a dig at them, I should imagine it's not a school where they feel valued most other days either",
">\n\nHonoring Black History month by emphasizing stereotypes is pretty tone deaf.\nShit man, I will fuck up some chicken, waffles and watermelon. Just can't imagine someone thought that was a good idea for the first day of black history.",
">\n\nThis.",
">\n\nFor those asking what the problem is with chicken and waffles -\n\nThey served something different from what was planned for the day, and the meal is attached to stereotypes.\nThey went out of their way to serve a watermelon dessert, which has been confirmed as being an extremely rare item.\nThe company did something similar in 2018, and terminated employees who organized it, indicating there was at least something going on that shouldn't have occurred. [src]\nThey also had an issue in 2011 (I wasn't aware of it until reading this article, only the 2018 issue) with UC California-Irvine.\n\nIf it had already been planned and was a common meal, I don't think there'd have been an issue. But for them to change the planned meal on the first day of Black History Month and to include items that were outside the norm is a really bad look for the company and its employees at that school.\nIt's also telling that this is the third time (that we know of) that this has occurred with the same company.",
">\n\nWere green meals used to subjugate and disparage an entire race like watermelon was?\nWhat about pasta-stuffed pizza, or tacos? Either of those specifically used to disparage an entire race?\nNo? Then none of those examples compare.\nAww, what's wrong? Don't like being called out for using the argument racist people do?\nToo fucking bad.",
">\n\nNot the person you responded to, and I am still learning American history as I go. How did white Americans use watermelons to disparage black Americans?",
">\n\nThis is unacceptable! Under no circumstances should anyone ever apologize for serving chicken and waffles. The only acceptable apology is for not serving more chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nI worked in NYC schools for a while. What they should be apologizing for at most schools is serving a couple frozen processed chicken nuggets on a half-toasted eggo and calling it \"chicken and waffles\".",
">\n\nThat's not chicken and waffles! That's a being poor and just eating whatever you have in the freezer kind of meal.",
">\n\nI mean that's more or less the kind of budget public schools are working with. Not to mention that the people working in these kitchens are paid extremely poorly as well. Like 99% of problems in education in the USA, the solution is \"we need more money\". But hey as long as we can make sure grown men get paid millions of dollars to throw balls around and Jeff Bezos can play astronaut who cares about kids, right?",
">\n\nKeep in mind if you're looking at that and going \"wow that's actually a good pay\" keep in mind this is New York City, one of the most expensive spots in the country to live in. I was a high school special education teacher there for five years (and lived there before with even lower paying jobs for 7-8 years). Even if you're at the upper level of that pay scale you're pretty much putting 50% of your income straight into rent, even if you live in a cheap area.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it’s not easy to live here.",
">\n\nDefinitely isn't. I lived there 2006-2019, ended up landing in Michigan after a brief stint in North Carolina, I'm happy I spent such a large chunk of formative adult years there (I moved there right after college) because as someone who grew up in a small, non-diverse New England rural town it was a huge contrast. These days though when people ask if I miss NYC my answer is \"all the things I miss I can get when I go visit\".",
">\n\nThere's nothing wrong with chicken and waffles on any day.",
">\n\nNo, but there's a huge fucking issue with serving watermelon to black students on the first day of BHM...you know, the actual issue.",
">\n\nWhere do you even get fresh watermelon from in February? It's not in season until the end of summer.",
">\n\nLikely grown in south America somewhere.",
">\n\nThe one I got over the weekend said it came from Chile.",
">\n\nApologize for what. This is stupid.",
">\n\nThey changed the menu to serve Chicken and Waffles and Watermelon in honor of BHM.",
">\n\nTo be fair, per the article...\n\n\"While our menu was not intended as a cultural meal, we acknowledge that the timing was inappropriate, and our team should have been more thoughtful in its service,\" the Aramark statement said.\n\nHowever...\n\nAramark has found itself in similar situations in years past, including an incident in 2011 where UC California-Irvine, an Aramark client, was criticized for serving a \"MLH Holiday Special\" that featured chicken and waffles.\n\nSo, yeah, there's something rotten in Aramark.",
">\n\nI love what you did there.",
">\n\nChicken and waffles is fucking awesome"
] |
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At this point the motivation was to be entirely racist. Nobody is going to believe anyone they didn’t know.
|
[
"What’s wrong with chicken and waffles?",
">\n\nThe problem is when someone responds to Black History Month by pushing stereotypes.\nOutside of context, nothing would be wrong.",
">\n\nis chicken and waffles a stereotype?\nI'm honestly asking. I've never heard of that.",
">\n\nIt had way less to do with Chicken and Waffles being served, and them serving it with watermelon.\nThey could have served it with any other fruit and it would be a non-issue.",
">\n\nChicken waffles and watermelon are all delicious. As a black person this seems kind of a hyperbolic complaint.\nI get the thought behind it but unless they served it in black face I don’t see the issue.\n😂",
">\n\nThe black students at the middle school took issue with it. That's where the push came from and it was specifically regarding adding watermelon to it.",
">\n\nIf the black kids took this at a dig at them, I should imagine it's not a school where they feel valued most other days either",
">\n\nHonoring Black History month by emphasizing stereotypes is pretty tone deaf.\nShit man, I will fuck up some chicken, waffles and watermelon. Just can't imagine someone thought that was a good idea for the first day of black history.",
">\n\nThis.",
">\n\nFor those asking what the problem is with chicken and waffles -\n\nThey served something different from what was planned for the day, and the meal is attached to stereotypes.\nThey went out of their way to serve a watermelon dessert, which has been confirmed as being an extremely rare item.\nThe company did something similar in 2018, and terminated employees who organized it, indicating there was at least something going on that shouldn't have occurred. [src]\nThey also had an issue in 2011 (I wasn't aware of it until reading this article, only the 2018 issue) with UC California-Irvine.\n\nIf it had already been planned and was a common meal, I don't think there'd have been an issue. But for them to change the planned meal on the first day of Black History Month and to include items that were outside the norm is a really bad look for the company and its employees at that school.\nIt's also telling that this is the third time (that we know of) that this has occurred with the same company.",
">\n\nWere green meals used to subjugate and disparage an entire race like watermelon was?\nWhat about pasta-stuffed pizza, or tacos? Either of those specifically used to disparage an entire race?\nNo? Then none of those examples compare.\nAww, what's wrong? Don't like being called out for using the argument racist people do?\nToo fucking bad.",
">\n\nNot the person you responded to, and I am still learning American history as I go. How did white Americans use watermelons to disparage black Americans?",
">\n\nThis is unacceptable! Under no circumstances should anyone ever apologize for serving chicken and waffles. The only acceptable apology is for not serving more chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nI worked in NYC schools for a while. What they should be apologizing for at most schools is serving a couple frozen processed chicken nuggets on a half-toasted eggo and calling it \"chicken and waffles\".",
">\n\nThat's not chicken and waffles! That's a being poor and just eating whatever you have in the freezer kind of meal.",
">\n\nI mean that's more or less the kind of budget public schools are working with. Not to mention that the people working in these kitchens are paid extremely poorly as well. Like 99% of problems in education in the USA, the solution is \"we need more money\". But hey as long as we can make sure grown men get paid millions of dollars to throw balls around and Jeff Bezos can play astronaut who cares about kids, right?",
">\n\nKeep in mind if you're looking at that and going \"wow that's actually a good pay\" keep in mind this is New York City, one of the most expensive spots in the country to live in. I was a high school special education teacher there for five years (and lived there before with even lower paying jobs for 7-8 years). Even if you're at the upper level of that pay scale you're pretty much putting 50% of your income straight into rent, even if you live in a cheap area.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it’s not easy to live here.",
">\n\nDefinitely isn't. I lived there 2006-2019, ended up landing in Michigan after a brief stint in North Carolina, I'm happy I spent such a large chunk of formative adult years there (I moved there right after college) because as someone who grew up in a small, non-diverse New England rural town it was a huge contrast. These days though when people ask if I miss NYC my answer is \"all the things I miss I can get when I go visit\".",
">\n\nThere's nothing wrong with chicken and waffles on any day.",
">\n\nNo, but there's a huge fucking issue with serving watermelon to black students on the first day of BHM...you know, the actual issue.",
">\n\nWhere do you even get fresh watermelon from in February? It's not in season until the end of summer.",
">\n\nLikely grown in south America somewhere.",
">\n\nThe one I got over the weekend said it came from Chile.",
">\n\nApologize for what. This is stupid.",
">\n\nThey changed the menu to serve Chicken and Waffles and Watermelon in honor of BHM.",
">\n\nTo be fair, per the article...\n\n\"While our menu was not intended as a cultural meal, we acknowledge that the timing was inappropriate, and our team should have been more thoughtful in its service,\" the Aramark statement said.\n\nHowever...\n\nAramark has found itself in similar situations in years past, including an incident in 2011 where UC California-Irvine, an Aramark client, was criticized for serving a \"MLH Holiday Special\" that featured chicken and waffles.\n\nSo, yeah, there's something rotten in Aramark.",
">\n\nI love what you did there.",
">\n\nChicken and waffles is fucking awesome",
">\n\nChicken and Waffles do not go with watermelon. That’s the issue. This was intentionally a racist joke."
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Can't believe if I'll be forced to not eat any of those on Black History Month.
|
[
"What’s wrong with chicken and waffles?",
">\n\nThe problem is when someone responds to Black History Month by pushing stereotypes.\nOutside of context, nothing would be wrong.",
">\n\nis chicken and waffles a stereotype?\nI'm honestly asking. I've never heard of that.",
">\n\nIt had way less to do with Chicken and Waffles being served, and them serving it with watermelon.\nThey could have served it with any other fruit and it would be a non-issue.",
">\n\nChicken waffles and watermelon are all delicious. As a black person this seems kind of a hyperbolic complaint.\nI get the thought behind it but unless they served it in black face I don’t see the issue.\n😂",
">\n\nThe black students at the middle school took issue with it. That's where the push came from and it was specifically regarding adding watermelon to it.",
">\n\nIf the black kids took this at a dig at them, I should imagine it's not a school where they feel valued most other days either",
">\n\nHonoring Black History month by emphasizing stereotypes is pretty tone deaf.\nShit man, I will fuck up some chicken, waffles and watermelon. Just can't imagine someone thought that was a good idea for the first day of black history.",
">\n\nThis.",
">\n\nFor those asking what the problem is with chicken and waffles -\n\nThey served something different from what was planned for the day, and the meal is attached to stereotypes.\nThey went out of their way to serve a watermelon dessert, which has been confirmed as being an extremely rare item.\nThe company did something similar in 2018, and terminated employees who organized it, indicating there was at least something going on that shouldn't have occurred. [src]\nThey also had an issue in 2011 (I wasn't aware of it until reading this article, only the 2018 issue) with UC California-Irvine.\n\nIf it had already been planned and was a common meal, I don't think there'd have been an issue. But for them to change the planned meal on the first day of Black History Month and to include items that were outside the norm is a really bad look for the company and its employees at that school.\nIt's also telling that this is the third time (that we know of) that this has occurred with the same company.",
">\n\nWere green meals used to subjugate and disparage an entire race like watermelon was?\nWhat about pasta-stuffed pizza, or tacos? Either of those specifically used to disparage an entire race?\nNo? Then none of those examples compare.\nAww, what's wrong? Don't like being called out for using the argument racist people do?\nToo fucking bad.",
">\n\nNot the person you responded to, and I am still learning American history as I go. How did white Americans use watermelons to disparage black Americans?",
">\n\nThis is unacceptable! Under no circumstances should anyone ever apologize for serving chicken and waffles. The only acceptable apology is for not serving more chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nI worked in NYC schools for a while. What they should be apologizing for at most schools is serving a couple frozen processed chicken nuggets on a half-toasted eggo and calling it \"chicken and waffles\".",
">\n\nThat's not chicken and waffles! That's a being poor and just eating whatever you have in the freezer kind of meal.",
">\n\nI mean that's more or less the kind of budget public schools are working with. Not to mention that the people working in these kitchens are paid extremely poorly as well. Like 99% of problems in education in the USA, the solution is \"we need more money\". But hey as long as we can make sure grown men get paid millions of dollars to throw balls around and Jeff Bezos can play astronaut who cares about kids, right?",
">\n\nKeep in mind if you're looking at that and going \"wow that's actually a good pay\" keep in mind this is New York City, one of the most expensive spots in the country to live in. I was a high school special education teacher there for five years (and lived there before with even lower paying jobs for 7-8 years). Even if you're at the upper level of that pay scale you're pretty much putting 50% of your income straight into rent, even if you live in a cheap area.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it’s not easy to live here.",
">\n\nDefinitely isn't. I lived there 2006-2019, ended up landing in Michigan after a brief stint in North Carolina, I'm happy I spent such a large chunk of formative adult years there (I moved there right after college) because as someone who grew up in a small, non-diverse New England rural town it was a huge contrast. These days though when people ask if I miss NYC my answer is \"all the things I miss I can get when I go visit\".",
">\n\nThere's nothing wrong with chicken and waffles on any day.",
">\n\nNo, but there's a huge fucking issue with serving watermelon to black students on the first day of BHM...you know, the actual issue.",
">\n\nWhere do you even get fresh watermelon from in February? It's not in season until the end of summer.",
">\n\nLikely grown in south America somewhere.",
">\n\nThe one I got over the weekend said it came from Chile.",
">\n\nApologize for what. This is stupid.",
">\n\nThey changed the menu to serve Chicken and Waffles and Watermelon in honor of BHM.",
">\n\nTo be fair, per the article...\n\n\"While our menu was not intended as a cultural meal, we acknowledge that the timing was inappropriate, and our team should have been more thoughtful in its service,\" the Aramark statement said.\n\nHowever...\n\nAramark has found itself in similar situations in years past, including an incident in 2011 where UC California-Irvine, an Aramark client, was criticized for serving a \"MLH Holiday Special\" that featured chicken and waffles.\n\nSo, yeah, there's something rotten in Aramark.",
">\n\nI love what you did there.",
">\n\nChicken and waffles is fucking awesome",
">\n\nChicken and Waffles do not go with watermelon. That’s the issue. This was intentionally a racist joke.",
">\n\nAt this point the motivation was to be entirely racist. Nobody is going to believe anyone they didn’t know."
] |
>
exactly the shit only whites can be offended about in the name of others. no sane men should deny gods gift of chicken and waffles whatever the occasion.
it may be a stereotype you recognize for racism, but it also, is fucking delicious.
|
[
"What’s wrong with chicken and waffles?",
">\n\nThe problem is when someone responds to Black History Month by pushing stereotypes.\nOutside of context, nothing would be wrong.",
">\n\nis chicken and waffles a stereotype?\nI'm honestly asking. I've never heard of that.",
">\n\nIt had way less to do with Chicken and Waffles being served, and them serving it with watermelon.\nThey could have served it with any other fruit and it would be a non-issue.",
">\n\nChicken waffles and watermelon are all delicious. As a black person this seems kind of a hyperbolic complaint.\nI get the thought behind it but unless they served it in black face I don’t see the issue.\n😂",
">\n\nThe black students at the middle school took issue with it. That's where the push came from and it was specifically regarding adding watermelon to it.",
">\n\nIf the black kids took this at a dig at them, I should imagine it's not a school where they feel valued most other days either",
">\n\nHonoring Black History month by emphasizing stereotypes is pretty tone deaf.\nShit man, I will fuck up some chicken, waffles and watermelon. Just can't imagine someone thought that was a good idea for the first day of black history.",
">\n\nThis.",
">\n\nFor those asking what the problem is with chicken and waffles -\n\nThey served something different from what was planned for the day, and the meal is attached to stereotypes.\nThey went out of their way to serve a watermelon dessert, which has been confirmed as being an extremely rare item.\nThe company did something similar in 2018, and terminated employees who organized it, indicating there was at least something going on that shouldn't have occurred. [src]\nThey also had an issue in 2011 (I wasn't aware of it until reading this article, only the 2018 issue) with UC California-Irvine.\n\nIf it had already been planned and was a common meal, I don't think there'd have been an issue. But for them to change the planned meal on the first day of Black History Month and to include items that were outside the norm is a really bad look for the company and its employees at that school.\nIt's also telling that this is the third time (that we know of) that this has occurred with the same company.",
">\n\nWere green meals used to subjugate and disparage an entire race like watermelon was?\nWhat about pasta-stuffed pizza, or tacos? Either of those specifically used to disparage an entire race?\nNo? Then none of those examples compare.\nAww, what's wrong? Don't like being called out for using the argument racist people do?\nToo fucking bad.",
">\n\nNot the person you responded to, and I am still learning American history as I go. How did white Americans use watermelons to disparage black Americans?",
">\n\nThis is unacceptable! Under no circumstances should anyone ever apologize for serving chicken and waffles. The only acceptable apology is for not serving more chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nI worked in NYC schools for a while. What they should be apologizing for at most schools is serving a couple frozen processed chicken nuggets on a half-toasted eggo and calling it \"chicken and waffles\".",
">\n\nThat's not chicken and waffles! That's a being poor and just eating whatever you have in the freezer kind of meal.",
">\n\nI mean that's more or less the kind of budget public schools are working with. Not to mention that the people working in these kitchens are paid extremely poorly as well. Like 99% of problems in education in the USA, the solution is \"we need more money\". But hey as long as we can make sure grown men get paid millions of dollars to throw balls around and Jeff Bezos can play astronaut who cares about kids, right?",
">\n\nKeep in mind if you're looking at that and going \"wow that's actually a good pay\" keep in mind this is New York City, one of the most expensive spots in the country to live in. I was a high school special education teacher there for five years (and lived there before with even lower paying jobs for 7-8 years). Even if you're at the upper level of that pay scale you're pretty much putting 50% of your income straight into rent, even if you live in a cheap area.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it’s not easy to live here.",
">\n\nDefinitely isn't. I lived there 2006-2019, ended up landing in Michigan after a brief stint in North Carolina, I'm happy I spent such a large chunk of formative adult years there (I moved there right after college) because as someone who grew up in a small, non-diverse New England rural town it was a huge contrast. These days though when people ask if I miss NYC my answer is \"all the things I miss I can get when I go visit\".",
">\n\nThere's nothing wrong with chicken and waffles on any day.",
">\n\nNo, but there's a huge fucking issue with serving watermelon to black students on the first day of BHM...you know, the actual issue.",
">\n\nWhere do you even get fresh watermelon from in February? It's not in season until the end of summer.",
">\n\nLikely grown in south America somewhere.",
">\n\nThe one I got over the weekend said it came from Chile.",
">\n\nApologize for what. This is stupid.",
">\n\nThey changed the menu to serve Chicken and Waffles and Watermelon in honor of BHM.",
">\n\nTo be fair, per the article...\n\n\"While our menu was not intended as a cultural meal, we acknowledge that the timing was inappropriate, and our team should have been more thoughtful in its service,\" the Aramark statement said.\n\nHowever...\n\nAramark has found itself in similar situations in years past, including an incident in 2011 where UC California-Irvine, an Aramark client, was criticized for serving a \"MLH Holiday Special\" that featured chicken and waffles.\n\nSo, yeah, there's something rotten in Aramark.",
">\n\nI love what you did there.",
">\n\nChicken and waffles is fucking awesome",
">\n\nChicken and Waffles do not go with watermelon. That’s the issue. This was intentionally a racist joke.",
">\n\nAt this point the motivation was to be entirely racist. Nobody is going to believe anyone they didn’t know.",
">\n\nCan't believe if I'll be forced to not eat any of those on Black History Month."
] |
>
It's a stupid stereotype that's not even actually racist.
Except it IS a racist stereotype, has been for centuries, and continues to be so.
Just because you don't like that it is, doesn't change that fact.
Additionally, no one uses the foods of the cultures you presented as a negative facet of their identity...and in fact this is the EXACT argument you see racist people use to say "it's ok" to be shitty towards black people.
|
[
"What’s wrong with chicken and waffles?",
">\n\nThe problem is when someone responds to Black History Month by pushing stereotypes.\nOutside of context, nothing would be wrong.",
">\n\nis chicken and waffles a stereotype?\nI'm honestly asking. I've never heard of that.",
">\n\nIt had way less to do with Chicken and Waffles being served, and them serving it with watermelon.\nThey could have served it with any other fruit and it would be a non-issue.",
">\n\nChicken waffles and watermelon are all delicious. As a black person this seems kind of a hyperbolic complaint.\nI get the thought behind it but unless they served it in black face I don’t see the issue.\n😂",
">\n\nThe black students at the middle school took issue with it. That's where the push came from and it was specifically regarding adding watermelon to it.",
">\n\nIf the black kids took this at a dig at them, I should imagine it's not a school where they feel valued most other days either",
">\n\nHonoring Black History month by emphasizing stereotypes is pretty tone deaf.\nShit man, I will fuck up some chicken, waffles and watermelon. Just can't imagine someone thought that was a good idea for the first day of black history.",
">\n\nThis.",
">\n\nFor those asking what the problem is with chicken and waffles -\n\nThey served something different from what was planned for the day, and the meal is attached to stereotypes.\nThey went out of their way to serve a watermelon dessert, which has been confirmed as being an extremely rare item.\nThe company did something similar in 2018, and terminated employees who organized it, indicating there was at least something going on that shouldn't have occurred. [src]\nThey also had an issue in 2011 (I wasn't aware of it until reading this article, only the 2018 issue) with UC California-Irvine.\n\nIf it had already been planned and was a common meal, I don't think there'd have been an issue. But for them to change the planned meal on the first day of Black History Month and to include items that were outside the norm is a really bad look for the company and its employees at that school.\nIt's also telling that this is the third time (that we know of) that this has occurred with the same company.",
">\n\nWere green meals used to subjugate and disparage an entire race like watermelon was?\nWhat about pasta-stuffed pizza, or tacos? Either of those specifically used to disparage an entire race?\nNo? Then none of those examples compare.\nAww, what's wrong? Don't like being called out for using the argument racist people do?\nToo fucking bad.",
">\n\nNot the person you responded to, and I am still learning American history as I go. How did white Americans use watermelons to disparage black Americans?",
">\n\nThis is unacceptable! Under no circumstances should anyone ever apologize for serving chicken and waffles. The only acceptable apology is for not serving more chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nI worked in NYC schools for a while. What they should be apologizing for at most schools is serving a couple frozen processed chicken nuggets on a half-toasted eggo and calling it \"chicken and waffles\".",
">\n\nThat's not chicken and waffles! That's a being poor and just eating whatever you have in the freezer kind of meal.",
">\n\nI mean that's more or less the kind of budget public schools are working with. Not to mention that the people working in these kitchens are paid extremely poorly as well. Like 99% of problems in education in the USA, the solution is \"we need more money\". But hey as long as we can make sure grown men get paid millions of dollars to throw balls around and Jeff Bezos can play astronaut who cares about kids, right?",
">\n\nKeep in mind if you're looking at that and going \"wow that's actually a good pay\" keep in mind this is New York City, one of the most expensive spots in the country to live in. I was a high school special education teacher there for five years (and lived there before with even lower paying jobs for 7-8 years). Even if you're at the upper level of that pay scale you're pretty much putting 50% of your income straight into rent, even if you live in a cheap area.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it’s not easy to live here.",
">\n\nDefinitely isn't. I lived there 2006-2019, ended up landing in Michigan after a brief stint in North Carolina, I'm happy I spent such a large chunk of formative adult years there (I moved there right after college) because as someone who grew up in a small, non-diverse New England rural town it was a huge contrast. These days though when people ask if I miss NYC my answer is \"all the things I miss I can get when I go visit\".",
">\n\nThere's nothing wrong with chicken and waffles on any day.",
">\n\nNo, but there's a huge fucking issue with serving watermelon to black students on the first day of BHM...you know, the actual issue.",
">\n\nWhere do you even get fresh watermelon from in February? It's not in season until the end of summer.",
">\n\nLikely grown in south America somewhere.",
">\n\nThe one I got over the weekend said it came from Chile.",
">\n\nApologize for what. This is stupid.",
">\n\nThey changed the menu to serve Chicken and Waffles and Watermelon in honor of BHM.",
">\n\nTo be fair, per the article...\n\n\"While our menu was not intended as a cultural meal, we acknowledge that the timing was inappropriate, and our team should have been more thoughtful in its service,\" the Aramark statement said.\n\nHowever...\n\nAramark has found itself in similar situations in years past, including an incident in 2011 where UC California-Irvine, an Aramark client, was criticized for serving a \"MLH Holiday Special\" that featured chicken and waffles.\n\nSo, yeah, there's something rotten in Aramark.",
">\n\nI love what you did there.",
">\n\nChicken and waffles is fucking awesome",
">\n\nChicken and Waffles do not go with watermelon. That’s the issue. This was intentionally a racist joke.",
">\n\nAt this point the motivation was to be entirely racist. Nobody is going to believe anyone they didn’t know.",
">\n\nCan't believe if I'll be forced to not eat any of those on Black History Month.",
">\n\nexactly the shit only whites can be offended about in the name of others. no sane men should deny gods gift of chicken and waffles whatever the occasion.\nit may be a stereotype you recognize for racism, but it also, is fucking delicious."
] |
>
I'm not explaining something to someone making obviously inflammatory commentary in bad faith. You know the issue isn't with chicken and waffles specifically, as it's been pointed out COUNTLESS times throughout this comment section. It's the inclusion of watermelon, a known negative stereotype.
You being ignorant of history isn't anyone's problem, but yours.
As for the rest of this tantrum?
Ok, 🤡.
Edit: Imagine that. Blocking me after making a comment...sorry, throwing a tantrum. Comment:
The only one doing anything here in bad faith is the one with their silly clown emojis who refuses to support their point and instead prefers to sling mud.
My reply:
You came in here, making wildly racist claims about a topic you're obviously ignorant on, you double down on the racism and ignorance, and when called out and treated with the same respect as you have shown to others...you go into toddler mode.
Nah, I think I'm pretty fucking spot on with my assessment of you.
|
[
"What’s wrong with chicken and waffles?",
">\n\nThe problem is when someone responds to Black History Month by pushing stereotypes.\nOutside of context, nothing would be wrong.",
">\n\nis chicken and waffles a stereotype?\nI'm honestly asking. I've never heard of that.",
">\n\nIt had way less to do with Chicken and Waffles being served, and them serving it with watermelon.\nThey could have served it with any other fruit and it would be a non-issue.",
">\n\nChicken waffles and watermelon are all delicious. As a black person this seems kind of a hyperbolic complaint.\nI get the thought behind it but unless they served it in black face I don’t see the issue.\n😂",
">\n\nThe black students at the middle school took issue with it. That's where the push came from and it was specifically regarding adding watermelon to it.",
">\n\nIf the black kids took this at a dig at them, I should imagine it's not a school where they feel valued most other days either",
">\n\nHonoring Black History month by emphasizing stereotypes is pretty tone deaf.\nShit man, I will fuck up some chicken, waffles and watermelon. Just can't imagine someone thought that was a good idea for the first day of black history.",
">\n\nThis.",
">\n\nFor those asking what the problem is with chicken and waffles -\n\nThey served something different from what was planned for the day, and the meal is attached to stereotypes.\nThey went out of their way to serve a watermelon dessert, which has been confirmed as being an extremely rare item.\nThe company did something similar in 2018, and terminated employees who organized it, indicating there was at least something going on that shouldn't have occurred. [src]\nThey also had an issue in 2011 (I wasn't aware of it until reading this article, only the 2018 issue) with UC California-Irvine.\n\nIf it had already been planned and was a common meal, I don't think there'd have been an issue. But for them to change the planned meal on the first day of Black History Month and to include items that were outside the norm is a really bad look for the company and its employees at that school.\nIt's also telling that this is the third time (that we know of) that this has occurred with the same company.",
">\n\nWere green meals used to subjugate and disparage an entire race like watermelon was?\nWhat about pasta-stuffed pizza, or tacos? Either of those specifically used to disparage an entire race?\nNo? Then none of those examples compare.\nAww, what's wrong? Don't like being called out for using the argument racist people do?\nToo fucking bad.",
">\n\nNot the person you responded to, and I am still learning American history as I go. How did white Americans use watermelons to disparage black Americans?",
">\n\nThis is unacceptable! Under no circumstances should anyone ever apologize for serving chicken and waffles. The only acceptable apology is for not serving more chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nI worked in NYC schools for a while. What they should be apologizing for at most schools is serving a couple frozen processed chicken nuggets on a half-toasted eggo and calling it \"chicken and waffles\".",
">\n\nThat's not chicken and waffles! That's a being poor and just eating whatever you have in the freezer kind of meal.",
">\n\nI mean that's more or less the kind of budget public schools are working with. Not to mention that the people working in these kitchens are paid extremely poorly as well. Like 99% of problems in education in the USA, the solution is \"we need more money\". But hey as long as we can make sure grown men get paid millions of dollars to throw balls around and Jeff Bezos can play astronaut who cares about kids, right?",
">\n\nKeep in mind if you're looking at that and going \"wow that's actually a good pay\" keep in mind this is New York City, one of the most expensive spots in the country to live in. I was a high school special education teacher there for five years (and lived there before with even lower paying jobs for 7-8 years). Even if you're at the upper level of that pay scale you're pretty much putting 50% of your income straight into rent, even if you live in a cheap area.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it’s not easy to live here.",
">\n\nDefinitely isn't. I lived there 2006-2019, ended up landing in Michigan after a brief stint in North Carolina, I'm happy I spent such a large chunk of formative adult years there (I moved there right after college) because as someone who grew up in a small, non-diverse New England rural town it was a huge contrast. These days though when people ask if I miss NYC my answer is \"all the things I miss I can get when I go visit\".",
">\n\nThere's nothing wrong with chicken and waffles on any day.",
">\n\nNo, but there's a huge fucking issue with serving watermelon to black students on the first day of BHM...you know, the actual issue.",
">\n\nWhere do you even get fresh watermelon from in February? It's not in season until the end of summer.",
">\n\nLikely grown in south America somewhere.",
">\n\nThe one I got over the weekend said it came from Chile.",
">\n\nApologize for what. This is stupid.",
">\n\nThey changed the menu to serve Chicken and Waffles and Watermelon in honor of BHM.",
">\n\nTo be fair, per the article...\n\n\"While our menu was not intended as a cultural meal, we acknowledge that the timing was inappropriate, and our team should have been more thoughtful in its service,\" the Aramark statement said.\n\nHowever...\n\nAramark has found itself in similar situations in years past, including an incident in 2011 where UC California-Irvine, an Aramark client, was criticized for serving a \"MLH Holiday Special\" that featured chicken and waffles.\n\nSo, yeah, there's something rotten in Aramark.",
">\n\nI love what you did there.",
">\n\nChicken and waffles is fucking awesome",
">\n\nChicken and Waffles do not go with watermelon. That’s the issue. This was intentionally a racist joke.",
">\n\nAt this point the motivation was to be entirely racist. Nobody is going to believe anyone they didn’t know.",
">\n\nCan't believe if I'll be forced to not eat any of those on Black History Month.",
">\n\nexactly the shit only whites can be offended about in the name of others. no sane men should deny gods gift of chicken and waffles whatever the occasion.\nit may be a stereotype you recognize for racism, but it also, is fucking delicious.",
">\n\n\nIt's a stupid stereotype that's not even actually racist.\n\nExcept it IS a racist stereotype, has been for centuries, and continues to be so.\nJust because you don't like that it is, doesn't change that fact.\nAdditionally, no one uses the foods of the cultures you presented as a negative facet of their identity...and in fact this is the EXACT argument you see racist people use to say \"it's ok\" to be shitty towards black people."
] |
>
I'm personally offended that
a. we are eaten
b. people are offended because we are eaten
|
[
"What’s wrong with chicken and waffles?",
">\n\nThe problem is when someone responds to Black History Month by pushing stereotypes.\nOutside of context, nothing would be wrong.",
">\n\nis chicken and waffles a stereotype?\nI'm honestly asking. I've never heard of that.",
">\n\nIt had way less to do with Chicken and Waffles being served, and them serving it with watermelon.\nThey could have served it with any other fruit and it would be a non-issue.",
">\n\nChicken waffles and watermelon are all delicious. As a black person this seems kind of a hyperbolic complaint.\nI get the thought behind it but unless they served it in black face I don’t see the issue.\n😂",
">\n\nThe black students at the middle school took issue with it. That's where the push came from and it was specifically regarding adding watermelon to it.",
">\n\nIf the black kids took this at a dig at them, I should imagine it's not a school where they feel valued most other days either",
">\n\nHonoring Black History month by emphasizing stereotypes is pretty tone deaf.\nShit man, I will fuck up some chicken, waffles and watermelon. Just can't imagine someone thought that was a good idea for the first day of black history.",
">\n\nThis.",
">\n\nFor those asking what the problem is with chicken and waffles -\n\nThey served something different from what was planned for the day, and the meal is attached to stereotypes.\nThey went out of their way to serve a watermelon dessert, which has been confirmed as being an extremely rare item.\nThe company did something similar in 2018, and terminated employees who organized it, indicating there was at least something going on that shouldn't have occurred. [src]\nThey also had an issue in 2011 (I wasn't aware of it until reading this article, only the 2018 issue) with UC California-Irvine.\n\nIf it had already been planned and was a common meal, I don't think there'd have been an issue. But for them to change the planned meal on the first day of Black History Month and to include items that were outside the norm is a really bad look for the company and its employees at that school.\nIt's also telling that this is the third time (that we know of) that this has occurred with the same company.",
">\n\nWere green meals used to subjugate and disparage an entire race like watermelon was?\nWhat about pasta-stuffed pizza, or tacos? Either of those specifically used to disparage an entire race?\nNo? Then none of those examples compare.\nAww, what's wrong? Don't like being called out for using the argument racist people do?\nToo fucking bad.",
">\n\nNot the person you responded to, and I am still learning American history as I go. How did white Americans use watermelons to disparage black Americans?",
">\n\nThis is unacceptable! Under no circumstances should anyone ever apologize for serving chicken and waffles. The only acceptable apology is for not serving more chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nI worked in NYC schools for a while. What they should be apologizing for at most schools is serving a couple frozen processed chicken nuggets on a half-toasted eggo and calling it \"chicken and waffles\".",
">\n\nThat's not chicken and waffles! That's a being poor and just eating whatever you have in the freezer kind of meal.",
">\n\nI mean that's more or less the kind of budget public schools are working with. Not to mention that the people working in these kitchens are paid extremely poorly as well. Like 99% of problems in education in the USA, the solution is \"we need more money\". But hey as long as we can make sure grown men get paid millions of dollars to throw balls around and Jeff Bezos can play astronaut who cares about kids, right?",
">\n\nKeep in mind if you're looking at that and going \"wow that's actually a good pay\" keep in mind this is New York City, one of the most expensive spots in the country to live in. I was a high school special education teacher there for five years (and lived there before with even lower paying jobs for 7-8 years). Even if you're at the upper level of that pay scale you're pretty much putting 50% of your income straight into rent, even if you live in a cheap area.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it’s not easy to live here.",
">\n\nDefinitely isn't. I lived there 2006-2019, ended up landing in Michigan after a brief stint in North Carolina, I'm happy I spent such a large chunk of formative adult years there (I moved there right after college) because as someone who grew up in a small, non-diverse New England rural town it was a huge contrast. These days though when people ask if I miss NYC my answer is \"all the things I miss I can get when I go visit\".",
">\n\nThere's nothing wrong with chicken and waffles on any day.",
">\n\nNo, but there's a huge fucking issue with serving watermelon to black students on the first day of BHM...you know, the actual issue.",
">\n\nWhere do you even get fresh watermelon from in February? It's not in season until the end of summer.",
">\n\nLikely grown in south America somewhere.",
">\n\nThe one I got over the weekend said it came from Chile.",
">\n\nApologize for what. This is stupid.",
">\n\nThey changed the menu to serve Chicken and Waffles and Watermelon in honor of BHM.",
">\n\nTo be fair, per the article...\n\n\"While our menu was not intended as a cultural meal, we acknowledge that the timing was inappropriate, and our team should have been more thoughtful in its service,\" the Aramark statement said.\n\nHowever...\n\nAramark has found itself in similar situations in years past, including an incident in 2011 where UC California-Irvine, an Aramark client, was criticized for serving a \"MLH Holiday Special\" that featured chicken and waffles.\n\nSo, yeah, there's something rotten in Aramark.",
">\n\nI love what you did there.",
">\n\nChicken and waffles is fucking awesome",
">\n\nChicken and Waffles do not go with watermelon. That’s the issue. This was intentionally a racist joke.",
">\n\nAt this point the motivation was to be entirely racist. Nobody is going to believe anyone they didn’t know.",
">\n\nCan't believe if I'll be forced to not eat any of those on Black History Month.",
">\n\nexactly the shit only whites can be offended about in the name of others. no sane men should deny gods gift of chicken and waffles whatever the occasion.\nit may be a stereotype you recognize for racism, but it also, is fucking delicious.",
">\n\n\nIt's a stupid stereotype that's not even actually racist.\n\nExcept it IS a racist stereotype, has been for centuries, and continues to be so.\nJust because you don't like that it is, doesn't change that fact.\nAdditionally, no one uses the foods of the cultures you presented as a negative facet of their identity...and in fact this is the EXACT argument you see racist people use to say \"it's ok\" to be shitty towards black people.",
">\n\nI'm not explaining something to someone making obviously inflammatory commentary in bad faith. You know the issue isn't with chicken and waffles specifically, as it's been pointed out COUNTLESS times throughout this comment section. It's the inclusion of watermelon, a known negative stereotype.\nYou being ignorant of history isn't anyone's problem, but yours.\nAs for the rest of this tantrum?\nOk, 🤡.\nEdit: Imagine that. Blocking me after making a comment...sorry, throwing a tantrum. Comment:\n\nThe only one doing anything here in bad faith is the one with their silly clown emojis who refuses to support their point and instead prefers to sling mud.\n\nMy reply:\nYou came in here, making wildly racist claims about a topic you're obviously ignorant on, you double down on the racism and ignorance, and when called out and treated with the same respect as you have shown to others...you go into toddler mode.\nNah, I think I'm pretty fucking spot on with my assessment of you."
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>
Sir, you have a license to cluck.
|
[
"What’s wrong with chicken and waffles?",
">\n\nThe problem is when someone responds to Black History Month by pushing stereotypes.\nOutside of context, nothing would be wrong.",
">\n\nis chicken and waffles a stereotype?\nI'm honestly asking. I've never heard of that.",
">\n\nIt had way less to do with Chicken and Waffles being served, and them serving it with watermelon.\nThey could have served it with any other fruit and it would be a non-issue.",
">\n\nChicken waffles and watermelon are all delicious. As a black person this seems kind of a hyperbolic complaint.\nI get the thought behind it but unless they served it in black face I don’t see the issue.\n😂",
">\n\nThe black students at the middle school took issue with it. That's where the push came from and it was specifically regarding adding watermelon to it.",
">\n\nIf the black kids took this at a dig at them, I should imagine it's not a school where they feel valued most other days either",
">\n\nHonoring Black History month by emphasizing stereotypes is pretty tone deaf.\nShit man, I will fuck up some chicken, waffles and watermelon. Just can't imagine someone thought that was a good idea for the first day of black history.",
">\n\nThis.",
">\n\nFor those asking what the problem is with chicken and waffles -\n\nThey served something different from what was planned for the day, and the meal is attached to stereotypes.\nThey went out of their way to serve a watermelon dessert, which has been confirmed as being an extremely rare item.\nThe company did something similar in 2018, and terminated employees who organized it, indicating there was at least something going on that shouldn't have occurred. [src]\nThey also had an issue in 2011 (I wasn't aware of it until reading this article, only the 2018 issue) with UC California-Irvine.\n\nIf it had already been planned and was a common meal, I don't think there'd have been an issue. But for them to change the planned meal on the first day of Black History Month and to include items that were outside the norm is a really bad look for the company and its employees at that school.\nIt's also telling that this is the third time (that we know of) that this has occurred with the same company.",
">\n\nWere green meals used to subjugate and disparage an entire race like watermelon was?\nWhat about pasta-stuffed pizza, or tacos? Either of those specifically used to disparage an entire race?\nNo? Then none of those examples compare.\nAww, what's wrong? Don't like being called out for using the argument racist people do?\nToo fucking bad.",
">\n\nNot the person you responded to, and I am still learning American history as I go. How did white Americans use watermelons to disparage black Americans?",
">\n\nThis is unacceptable! Under no circumstances should anyone ever apologize for serving chicken and waffles. The only acceptable apology is for not serving more chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nI worked in NYC schools for a while. What they should be apologizing for at most schools is serving a couple frozen processed chicken nuggets on a half-toasted eggo and calling it \"chicken and waffles\".",
">\n\nThat's not chicken and waffles! That's a being poor and just eating whatever you have in the freezer kind of meal.",
">\n\nI mean that's more or less the kind of budget public schools are working with. Not to mention that the people working in these kitchens are paid extremely poorly as well. Like 99% of problems in education in the USA, the solution is \"we need more money\". But hey as long as we can make sure grown men get paid millions of dollars to throw balls around and Jeff Bezos can play astronaut who cares about kids, right?",
">\n\nKeep in mind if you're looking at that and going \"wow that's actually a good pay\" keep in mind this is New York City, one of the most expensive spots in the country to live in. I was a high school special education teacher there for five years (and lived there before with even lower paying jobs for 7-8 years). Even if you're at the upper level of that pay scale you're pretty much putting 50% of your income straight into rent, even if you live in a cheap area.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it’s not easy to live here.",
">\n\nDefinitely isn't. I lived there 2006-2019, ended up landing in Michigan after a brief stint in North Carolina, I'm happy I spent such a large chunk of formative adult years there (I moved there right after college) because as someone who grew up in a small, non-diverse New England rural town it was a huge contrast. These days though when people ask if I miss NYC my answer is \"all the things I miss I can get when I go visit\".",
">\n\nThere's nothing wrong with chicken and waffles on any day.",
">\n\nNo, but there's a huge fucking issue with serving watermelon to black students on the first day of BHM...you know, the actual issue.",
">\n\nWhere do you even get fresh watermelon from in February? It's not in season until the end of summer.",
">\n\nLikely grown in south America somewhere.",
">\n\nThe one I got over the weekend said it came from Chile.",
">\n\nApologize for what. This is stupid.",
">\n\nThey changed the menu to serve Chicken and Waffles and Watermelon in honor of BHM.",
">\n\nTo be fair, per the article...\n\n\"While our menu was not intended as a cultural meal, we acknowledge that the timing was inappropriate, and our team should have been more thoughtful in its service,\" the Aramark statement said.\n\nHowever...\n\nAramark has found itself in similar situations in years past, including an incident in 2011 where UC California-Irvine, an Aramark client, was criticized for serving a \"MLH Holiday Special\" that featured chicken and waffles.\n\nSo, yeah, there's something rotten in Aramark.",
">\n\nI love what you did there.",
">\n\nChicken and waffles is fucking awesome",
">\n\nChicken and Waffles do not go with watermelon. That’s the issue. This was intentionally a racist joke.",
">\n\nAt this point the motivation was to be entirely racist. Nobody is going to believe anyone they didn’t know.",
">\n\nCan't believe if I'll be forced to not eat any of those on Black History Month.",
">\n\nexactly the shit only whites can be offended about in the name of others. no sane men should deny gods gift of chicken and waffles whatever the occasion.\nit may be a stereotype you recognize for racism, but it also, is fucking delicious.",
">\n\n\nIt's a stupid stereotype that's not even actually racist.\n\nExcept it IS a racist stereotype, has been for centuries, and continues to be so.\nJust because you don't like that it is, doesn't change that fact.\nAdditionally, no one uses the foods of the cultures you presented as a negative facet of their identity...and in fact this is the EXACT argument you see racist people use to say \"it's ok\" to be shitty towards black people.",
">\n\nI'm not explaining something to someone making obviously inflammatory commentary in bad faith. You know the issue isn't with chicken and waffles specifically, as it's been pointed out COUNTLESS times throughout this comment section. It's the inclusion of watermelon, a known negative stereotype.\nYou being ignorant of history isn't anyone's problem, but yours.\nAs for the rest of this tantrum?\nOk, 🤡.\nEdit: Imagine that. Blocking me after making a comment...sorry, throwing a tantrum. Comment:\n\nThe only one doing anything here in bad faith is the one with their silly clown emojis who refuses to support their point and instead prefers to sling mud.\n\nMy reply:\nYou came in here, making wildly racist claims about a topic you're obviously ignorant on, you double down on the racism and ignorance, and when called out and treated with the same respect as you have shown to others...you go into toddler mode.\nNah, I think I'm pretty fucking spot on with my assessment of you.",
">\n\nI'm personally offended that \na. we are eaten\nb. people are offended because we are eaten"
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I can understand where they're coming from but as a (former) southerner you should never have to apologize for chicken and waffles.
|
[
"What’s wrong with chicken and waffles?",
">\n\nThe problem is when someone responds to Black History Month by pushing stereotypes.\nOutside of context, nothing would be wrong.",
">\n\nis chicken and waffles a stereotype?\nI'm honestly asking. I've never heard of that.",
">\n\nIt had way less to do with Chicken and Waffles being served, and them serving it with watermelon.\nThey could have served it with any other fruit and it would be a non-issue.",
">\n\nChicken waffles and watermelon are all delicious. As a black person this seems kind of a hyperbolic complaint.\nI get the thought behind it but unless they served it in black face I don’t see the issue.\n😂",
">\n\nThe black students at the middle school took issue with it. That's where the push came from and it was specifically regarding adding watermelon to it.",
">\n\nIf the black kids took this at a dig at them, I should imagine it's not a school where they feel valued most other days either",
">\n\nHonoring Black History month by emphasizing stereotypes is pretty tone deaf.\nShit man, I will fuck up some chicken, waffles and watermelon. Just can't imagine someone thought that was a good idea for the first day of black history.",
">\n\nThis.",
">\n\nFor those asking what the problem is with chicken and waffles -\n\nThey served something different from what was planned for the day, and the meal is attached to stereotypes.\nThey went out of their way to serve a watermelon dessert, which has been confirmed as being an extremely rare item.\nThe company did something similar in 2018, and terminated employees who organized it, indicating there was at least something going on that shouldn't have occurred. [src]\nThey also had an issue in 2011 (I wasn't aware of it until reading this article, only the 2018 issue) with UC California-Irvine.\n\nIf it had already been planned and was a common meal, I don't think there'd have been an issue. But for them to change the planned meal on the first day of Black History Month and to include items that were outside the norm is a really bad look for the company and its employees at that school.\nIt's also telling that this is the third time (that we know of) that this has occurred with the same company.",
">\n\nWere green meals used to subjugate and disparage an entire race like watermelon was?\nWhat about pasta-stuffed pizza, or tacos? Either of those specifically used to disparage an entire race?\nNo? Then none of those examples compare.\nAww, what's wrong? Don't like being called out for using the argument racist people do?\nToo fucking bad.",
">\n\nNot the person you responded to, and I am still learning American history as I go. How did white Americans use watermelons to disparage black Americans?",
">\n\nThis is unacceptable! Under no circumstances should anyone ever apologize for serving chicken and waffles. The only acceptable apology is for not serving more chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nI worked in NYC schools for a while. What they should be apologizing for at most schools is serving a couple frozen processed chicken nuggets on a half-toasted eggo and calling it \"chicken and waffles\".",
">\n\nThat's not chicken and waffles! That's a being poor and just eating whatever you have in the freezer kind of meal.",
">\n\nI mean that's more or less the kind of budget public schools are working with. Not to mention that the people working in these kitchens are paid extremely poorly as well. Like 99% of problems in education in the USA, the solution is \"we need more money\". But hey as long as we can make sure grown men get paid millions of dollars to throw balls around and Jeff Bezos can play astronaut who cares about kids, right?",
">\n\nKeep in mind if you're looking at that and going \"wow that's actually a good pay\" keep in mind this is New York City, one of the most expensive spots in the country to live in. I was a high school special education teacher there for five years (and lived there before with even lower paying jobs for 7-8 years). Even if you're at the upper level of that pay scale you're pretty much putting 50% of your income straight into rent, even if you live in a cheap area.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it’s not easy to live here.",
">\n\nDefinitely isn't. I lived there 2006-2019, ended up landing in Michigan after a brief stint in North Carolina, I'm happy I spent such a large chunk of formative adult years there (I moved there right after college) because as someone who grew up in a small, non-diverse New England rural town it was a huge contrast. These days though when people ask if I miss NYC my answer is \"all the things I miss I can get when I go visit\".",
">\n\nThere's nothing wrong with chicken and waffles on any day.",
">\n\nNo, but there's a huge fucking issue with serving watermelon to black students on the first day of BHM...you know, the actual issue.",
">\n\nWhere do you even get fresh watermelon from in February? It's not in season until the end of summer.",
">\n\nLikely grown in south America somewhere.",
">\n\nThe one I got over the weekend said it came from Chile.",
">\n\nApologize for what. This is stupid.",
">\n\nThey changed the menu to serve Chicken and Waffles and Watermelon in honor of BHM.",
">\n\nTo be fair, per the article...\n\n\"While our menu was not intended as a cultural meal, we acknowledge that the timing was inappropriate, and our team should have been more thoughtful in its service,\" the Aramark statement said.\n\nHowever...\n\nAramark has found itself in similar situations in years past, including an incident in 2011 where UC California-Irvine, an Aramark client, was criticized for serving a \"MLH Holiday Special\" that featured chicken and waffles.\n\nSo, yeah, there's something rotten in Aramark.",
">\n\nI love what you did there.",
">\n\nChicken and waffles is fucking awesome",
">\n\nChicken and Waffles do not go with watermelon. That’s the issue. This was intentionally a racist joke.",
">\n\nAt this point the motivation was to be entirely racist. Nobody is going to believe anyone they didn’t know.",
">\n\nCan't believe if I'll be forced to not eat any of those on Black History Month.",
">\n\nexactly the shit only whites can be offended about in the name of others. no sane men should deny gods gift of chicken and waffles whatever the occasion.\nit may be a stereotype you recognize for racism, but it also, is fucking delicious.",
">\n\n\nIt's a stupid stereotype that's not even actually racist.\n\nExcept it IS a racist stereotype, has been for centuries, and continues to be so.\nJust because you don't like that it is, doesn't change that fact.\nAdditionally, no one uses the foods of the cultures you presented as a negative facet of their identity...and in fact this is the EXACT argument you see racist people use to say \"it's ok\" to be shitty towards black people.",
">\n\nI'm not explaining something to someone making obviously inflammatory commentary in bad faith. You know the issue isn't with chicken and waffles specifically, as it's been pointed out COUNTLESS times throughout this comment section. It's the inclusion of watermelon, a known negative stereotype.\nYou being ignorant of history isn't anyone's problem, but yours.\nAs for the rest of this tantrum?\nOk, 🤡.\nEdit: Imagine that. Blocking me after making a comment...sorry, throwing a tantrum. Comment:\n\nThe only one doing anything here in bad faith is the one with their silly clown emojis who refuses to support their point and instead prefers to sling mud.\n\nMy reply:\nYou came in here, making wildly racist claims about a topic you're obviously ignorant on, you double down on the racism and ignorance, and when called out and treated with the same respect as you have shown to others...you go into toddler mode.\nNah, I think I'm pretty fucking spot on with my assessment of you.",
">\n\nI'm personally offended that \na. we are eaten\nb. people are offended because we are eaten",
">\n\nSir, you have a license to cluck."
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agreed. if they are good. now bad... then yeah...
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[
"What’s wrong with chicken and waffles?",
">\n\nThe problem is when someone responds to Black History Month by pushing stereotypes.\nOutside of context, nothing would be wrong.",
">\n\nis chicken and waffles a stereotype?\nI'm honestly asking. I've never heard of that.",
">\n\nIt had way less to do with Chicken and Waffles being served, and them serving it with watermelon.\nThey could have served it with any other fruit and it would be a non-issue.",
">\n\nChicken waffles and watermelon are all delicious. As a black person this seems kind of a hyperbolic complaint.\nI get the thought behind it but unless they served it in black face I don’t see the issue.\n😂",
">\n\nThe black students at the middle school took issue with it. That's where the push came from and it was specifically regarding adding watermelon to it.",
">\n\nIf the black kids took this at a dig at them, I should imagine it's not a school where they feel valued most other days either",
">\n\nHonoring Black History month by emphasizing stereotypes is pretty tone deaf.\nShit man, I will fuck up some chicken, waffles and watermelon. Just can't imagine someone thought that was a good idea for the first day of black history.",
">\n\nThis.",
">\n\nFor those asking what the problem is with chicken and waffles -\n\nThey served something different from what was planned for the day, and the meal is attached to stereotypes.\nThey went out of their way to serve a watermelon dessert, which has been confirmed as being an extremely rare item.\nThe company did something similar in 2018, and terminated employees who organized it, indicating there was at least something going on that shouldn't have occurred. [src]\nThey also had an issue in 2011 (I wasn't aware of it until reading this article, only the 2018 issue) with UC California-Irvine.\n\nIf it had already been planned and was a common meal, I don't think there'd have been an issue. But for them to change the planned meal on the first day of Black History Month and to include items that were outside the norm is a really bad look for the company and its employees at that school.\nIt's also telling that this is the third time (that we know of) that this has occurred with the same company.",
">\n\nWere green meals used to subjugate and disparage an entire race like watermelon was?\nWhat about pasta-stuffed pizza, or tacos? Either of those specifically used to disparage an entire race?\nNo? Then none of those examples compare.\nAww, what's wrong? Don't like being called out for using the argument racist people do?\nToo fucking bad.",
">\n\nNot the person you responded to, and I am still learning American history as I go. How did white Americans use watermelons to disparage black Americans?",
">\n\nThis is unacceptable! Under no circumstances should anyone ever apologize for serving chicken and waffles. The only acceptable apology is for not serving more chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nI worked in NYC schools for a while. What they should be apologizing for at most schools is serving a couple frozen processed chicken nuggets on a half-toasted eggo and calling it \"chicken and waffles\".",
">\n\nThat's not chicken and waffles! That's a being poor and just eating whatever you have in the freezer kind of meal.",
">\n\nI mean that's more or less the kind of budget public schools are working with. Not to mention that the people working in these kitchens are paid extremely poorly as well. Like 99% of problems in education in the USA, the solution is \"we need more money\". But hey as long as we can make sure grown men get paid millions of dollars to throw balls around and Jeff Bezos can play astronaut who cares about kids, right?",
">\n\nKeep in mind if you're looking at that and going \"wow that's actually a good pay\" keep in mind this is New York City, one of the most expensive spots in the country to live in. I was a high school special education teacher there for five years (and lived there before with even lower paying jobs for 7-8 years). Even if you're at the upper level of that pay scale you're pretty much putting 50% of your income straight into rent, even if you live in a cheap area.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it’s not easy to live here.",
">\n\nDefinitely isn't. I lived there 2006-2019, ended up landing in Michigan after a brief stint in North Carolina, I'm happy I spent such a large chunk of formative adult years there (I moved there right after college) because as someone who grew up in a small, non-diverse New England rural town it was a huge contrast. These days though when people ask if I miss NYC my answer is \"all the things I miss I can get when I go visit\".",
">\n\nThere's nothing wrong with chicken and waffles on any day.",
">\n\nNo, but there's a huge fucking issue with serving watermelon to black students on the first day of BHM...you know, the actual issue.",
">\n\nWhere do you even get fresh watermelon from in February? It's not in season until the end of summer.",
">\n\nLikely grown in south America somewhere.",
">\n\nThe one I got over the weekend said it came from Chile.",
">\n\nApologize for what. This is stupid.",
">\n\nThey changed the menu to serve Chicken and Waffles and Watermelon in honor of BHM.",
">\n\nTo be fair, per the article...\n\n\"While our menu was not intended as a cultural meal, we acknowledge that the timing was inappropriate, and our team should have been more thoughtful in its service,\" the Aramark statement said.\n\nHowever...\n\nAramark has found itself in similar situations in years past, including an incident in 2011 where UC California-Irvine, an Aramark client, was criticized for serving a \"MLH Holiday Special\" that featured chicken and waffles.\n\nSo, yeah, there's something rotten in Aramark.",
">\n\nI love what you did there.",
">\n\nChicken and waffles is fucking awesome",
">\n\nChicken and Waffles do not go with watermelon. That’s the issue. This was intentionally a racist joke.",
">\n\nAt this point the motivation was to be entirely racist. Nobody is going to believe anyone they didn’t know.",
">\n\nCan't believe if I'll be forced to not eat any of those on Black History Month.",
">\n\nexactly the shit only whites can be offended about in the name of others. no sane men should deny gods gift of chicken and waffles whatever the occasion.\nit may be a stereotype you recognize for racism, but it also, is fucking delicious.",
">\n\n\nIt's a stupid stereotype that's not even actually racist.\n\nExcept it IS a racist stereotype, has been for centuries, and continues to be so.\nJust because you don't like that it is, doesn't change that fact.\nAdditionally, no one uses the foods of the cultures you presented as a negative facet of their identity...and in fact this is the EXACT argument you see racist people use to say \"it's ok\" to be shitty towards black people.",
">\n\nI'm not explaining something to someone making obviously inflammatory commentary in bad faith. You know the issue isn't with chicken and waffles specifically, as it's been pointed out COUNTLESS times throughout this comment section. It's the inclusion of watermelon, a known negative stereotype.\nYou being ignorant of history isn't anyone's problem, but yours.\nAs for the rest of this tantrum?\nOk, 🤡.\nEdit: Imagine that. Blocking me after making a comment...sorry, throwing a tantrum. Comment:\n\nThe only one doing anything here in bad faith is the one with their silly clown emojis who refuses to support their point and instead prefers to sling mud.\n\nMy reply:\nYou came in here, making wildly racist claims about a topic you're obviously ignorant on, you double down on the racism and ignorance, and when called out and treated with the same respect as you have shown to others...you go into toddler mode.\nNah, I think I'm pretty fucking spot on with my assessment of you.",
">\n\nI'm personally offended that \na. we are eaten\nb. people are offended because we are eaten",
">\n\nSir, you have a license to cluck.",
">\n\nI can understand where they're coming from but as a (former) southerner you should never have to apologize for chicken and waffles."
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... Until it's realized all the cooks are black.
Ah, narrative shift, nothing to see here
|
[
"What’s wrong with chicken and waffles?",
">\n\nThe problem is when someone responds to Black History Month by pushing stereotypes.\nOutside of context, nothing would be wrong.",
">\n\nis chicken and waffles a stereotype?\nI'm honestly asking. I've never heard of that.",
">\n\nIt had way less to do with Chicken and Waffles being served, and them serving it with watermelon.\nThey could have served it with any other fruit and it would be a non-issue.",
">\n\nChicken waffles and watermelon are all delicious. As a black person this seems kind of a hyperbolic complaint.\nI get the thought behind it but unless they served it in black face I don’t see the issue.\n😂",
">\n\nThe black students at the middle school took issue with it. That's where the push came from and it was specifically regarding adding watermelon to it.",
">\n\nIf the black kids took this at a dig at them, I should imagine it's not a school where they feel valued most other days either",
">\n\nHonoring Black History month by emphasizing stereotypes is pretty tone deaf.\nShit man, I will fuck up some chicken, waffles and watermelon. Just can't imagine someone thought that was a good idea for the first day of black history.",
">\n\nThis.",
">\n\nFor those asking what the problem is with chicken and waffles -\n\nThey served something different from what was planned for the day, and the meal is attached to stereotypes.\nThey went out of their way to serve a watermelon dessert, which has been confirmed as being an extremely rare item.\nThe company did something similar in 2018, and terminated employees who organized it, indicating there was at least something going on that shouldn't have occurred. [src]\nThey also had an issue in 2011 (I wasn't aware of it until reading this article, only the 2018 issue) with UC California-Irvine.\n\nIf it had already been planned and was a common meal, I don't think there'd have been an issue. But for them to change the planned meal on the first day of Black History Month and to include items that were outside the norm is a really bad look for the company and its employees at that school.\nIt's also telling that this is the third time (that we know of) that this has occurred with the same company.",
">\n\nWere green meals used to subjugate and disparage an entire race like watermelon was?\nWhat about pasta-stuffed pizza, or tacos? Either of those specifically used to disparage an entire race?\nNo? Then none of those examples compare.\nAww, what's wrong? Don't like being called out for using the argument racist people do?\nToo fucking bad.",
">\n\nNot the person you responded to, and I am still learning American history as I go. How did white Americans use watermelons to disparage black Americans?",
">\n\nThis is unacceptable! Under no circumstances should anyone ever apologize for serving chicken and waffles. The only acceptable apology is for not serving more chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nI worked in NYC schools for a while. What they should be apologizing for at most schools is serving a couple frozen processed chicken nuggets on a half-toasted eggo and calling it \"chicken and waffles\".",
">\n\nThat's not chicken and waffles! That's a being poor and just eating whatever you have in the freezer kind of meal.",
">\n\nI mean that's more or less the kind of budget public schools are working with. Not to mention that the people working in these kitchens are paid extremely poorly as well. Like 99% of problems in education in the USA, the solution is \"we need more money\". But hey as long as we can make sure grown men get paid millions of dollars to throw balls around and Jeff Bezos can play astronaut who cares about kids, right?",
">\n\nKeep in mind if you're looking at that and going \"wow that's actually a good pay\" keep in mind this is New York City, one of the most expensive spots in the country to live in. I was a high school special education teacher there for five years (and lived there before with even lower paying jobs for 7-8 years). Even if you're at the upper level of that pay scale you're pretty much putting 50% of your income straight into rent, even if you live in a cheap area.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it’s not easy to live here.",
">\n\nDefinitely isn't. I lived there 2006-2019, ended up landing in Michigan after a brief stint in North Carolina, I'm happy I spent such a large chunk of formative adult years there (I moved there right after college) because as someone who grew up in a small, non-diverse New England rural town it was a huge contrast. These days though when people ask if I miss NYC my answer is \"all the things I miss I can get when I go visit\".",
">\n\nThere's nothing wrong with chicken and waffles on any day.",
">\n\nNo, but there's a huge fucking issue with serving watermelon to black students on the first day of BHM...you know, the actual issue.",
">\n\nWhere do you even get fresh watermelon from in February? It's not in season until the end of summer.",
">\n\nLikely grown in south America somewhere.",
">\n\nThe one I got over the weekend said it came from Chile.",
">\n\nApologize for what. This is stupid.",
">\n\nThey changed the menu to serve Chicken and Waffles and Watermelon in honor of BHM.",
">\n\nTo be fair, per the article...\n\n\"While our menu was not intended as a cultural meal, we acknowledge that the timing was inappropriate, and our team should have been more thoughtful in its service,\" the Aramark statement said.\n\nHowever...\n\nAramark has found itself in similar situations in years past, including an incident in 2011 where UC California-Irvine, an Aramark client, was criticized for serving a \"MLH Holiday Special\" that featured chicken and waffles.\n\nSo, yeah, there's something rotten in Aramark.",
">\n\nI love what you did there.",
">\n\nChicken and waffles is fucking awesome",
">\n\nChicken and Waffles do not go with watermelon. That’s the issue. This was intentionally a racist joke.",
">\n\nAt this point the motivation was to be entirely racist. Nobody is going to believe anyone they didn’t know.",
">\n\nCan't believe if I'll be forced to not eat any of those on Black History Month.",
">\n\nexactly the shit only whites can be offended about in the name of others. no sane men should deny gods gift of chicken and waffles whatever the occasion.\nit may be a stereotype you recognize for racism, but it also, is fucking delicious.",
">\n\n\nIt's a stupid stereotype that's not even actually racist.\n\nExcept it IS a racist stereotype, has been for centuries, and continues to be so.\nJust because you don't like that it is, doesn't change that fact.\nAdditionally, no one uses the foods of the cultures you presented as a negative facet of their identity...and in fact this is the EXACT argument you see racist people use to say \"it's ok\" to be shitty towards black people.",
">\n\nI'm not explaining something to someone making obviously inflammatory commentary in bad faith. You know the issue isn't with chicken and waffles specifically, as it's been pointed out COUNTLESS times throughout this comment section. It's the inclusion of watermelon, a known negative stereotype.\nYou being ignorant of history isn't anyone's problem, but yours.\nAs for the rest of this tantrum?\nOk, 🤡.\nEdit: Imagine that. Blocking me after making a comment...sorry, throwing a tantrum. Comment:\n\nThe only one doing anything here in bad faith is the one with their silly clown emojis who refuses to support their point and instead prefers to sling mud.\n\nMy reply:\nYou came in here, making wildly racist claims about a topic you're obviously ignorant on, you double down on the racism and ignorance, and when called out and treated with the same respect as you have shown to others...you go into toddler mode.\nNah, I think I'm pretty fucking spot on with my assessment of you.",
">\n\nI'm personally offended that \na. we are eaten\nb. people are offended because we are eaten",
">\n\nSir, you have a license to cluck.",
">\n\nI can understand where they're coming from but as a (former) southerner you should never have to apologize for chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nagreed. if they are good. now bad... then yeah..."
] |
>
Tell that to the black student who was upset being served watermelon then.
|
[
"What’s wrong with chicken and waffles?",
">\n\nThe problem is when someone responds to Black History Month by pushing stereotypes.\nOutside of context, nothing would be wrong.",
">\n\nis chicken and waffles a stereotype?\nI'm honestly asking. I've never heard of that.",
">\n\nIt had way less to do with Chicken and Waffles being served, and them serving it with watermelon.\nThey could have served it with any other fruit and it would be a non-issue.",
">\n\nChicken waffles and watermelon are all delicious. As a black person this seems kind of a hyperbolic complaint.\nI get the thought behind it but unless they served it in black face I don’t see the issue.\n😂",
">\n\nThe black students at the middle school took issue with it. That's where the push came from and it was specifically regarding adding watermelon to it.",
">\n\nIf the black kids took this at a dig at them, I should imagine it's not a school where they feel valued most other days either",
">\n\nHonoring Black History month by emphasizing stereotypes is pretty tone deaf.\nShit man, I will fuck up some chicken, waffles and watermelon. Just can't imagine someone thought that was a good idea for the first day of black history.",
">\n\nThis.",
">\n\nFor those asking what the problem is with chicken and waffles -\n\nThey served something different from what was planned for the day, and the meal is attached to stereotypes.\nThey went out of their way to serve a watermelon dessert, which has been confirmed as being an extremely rare item.\nThe company did something similar in 2018, and terminated employees who organized it, indicating there was at least something going on that shouldn't have occurred. [src]\nThey also had an issue in 2011 (I wasn't aware of it until reading this article, only the 2018 issue) with UC California-Irvine.\n\nIf it had already been planned and was a common meal, I don't think there'd have been an issue. But for them to change the planned meal on the first day of Black History Month and to include items that were outside the norm is a really bad look for the company and its employees at that school.\nIt's also telling that this is the third time (that we know of) that this has occurred with the same company.",
">\n\nWere green meals used to subjugate and disparage an entire race like watermelon was?\nWhat about pasta-stuffed pizza, or tacos? Either of those specifically used to disparage an entire race?\nNo? Then none of those examples compare.\nAww, what's wrong? Don't like being called out for using the argument racist people do?\nToo fucking bad.",
">\n\nNot the person you responded to, and I am still learning American history as I go. How did white Americans use watermelons to disparage black Americans?",
">\n\nThis is unacceptable! Under no circumstances should anyone ever apologize for serving chicken and waffles. The only acceptable apology is for not serving more chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nI worked in NYC schools for a while. What they should be apologizing for at most schools is serving a couple frozen processed chicken nuggets on a half-toasted eggo and calling it \"chicken and waffles\".",
">\n\nThat's not chicken and waffles! That's a being poor and just eating whatever you have in the freezer kind of meal.",
">\n\nI mean that's more or less the kind of budget public schools are working with. Not to mention that the people working in these kitchens are paid extremely poorly as well. Like 99% of problems in education in the USA, the solution is \"we need more money\". But hey as long as we can make sure grown men get paid millions of dollars to throw balls around and Jeff Bezos can play astronaut who cares about kids, right?",
">\n\nKeep in mind if you're looking at that and going \"wow that's actually a good pay\" keep in mind this is New York City, one of the most expensive spots in the country to live in. I was a high school special education teacher there for five years (and lived there before with even lower paying jobs for 7-8 years). Even if you're at the upper level of that pay scale you're pretty much putting 50% of your income straight into rent, even if you live in a cheap area.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it’s not easy to live here.",
">\n\nDefinitely isn't. I lived there 2006-2019, ended up landing in Michigan after a brief stint in North Carolina, I'm happy I spent such a large chunk of formative adult years there (I moved there right after college) because as someone who grew up in a small, non-diverse New England rural town it was a huge contrast. These days though when people ask if I miss NYC my answer is \"all the things I miss I can get when I go visit\".",
">\n\nThere's nothing wrong with chicken and waffles on any day.",
">\n\nNo, but there's a huge fucking issue with serving watermelon to black students on the first day of BHM...you know, the actual issue.",
">\n\nWhere do you even get fresh watermelon from in February? It's not in season until the end of summer.",
">\n\nLikely grown in south America somewhere.",
">\n\nThe one I got over the weekend said it came from Chile.",
">\n\nApologize for what. This is stupid.",
">\n\nThey changed the menu to serve Chicken and Waffles and Watermelon in honor of BHM.",
">\n\nTo be fair, per the article...\n\n\"While our menu was not intended as a cultural meal, we acknowledge that the timing was inappropriate, and our team should have been more thoughtful in its service,\" the Aramark statement said.\n\nHowever...\n\nAramark has found itself in similar situations in years past, including an incident in 2011 where UC California-Irvine, an Aramark client, was criticized for serving a \"MLH Holiday Special\" that featured chicken and waffles.\n\nSo, yeah, there's something rotten in Aramark.",
">\n\nI love what you did there.",
">\n\nChicken and waffles is fucking awesome",
">\n\nChicken and Waffles do not go with watermelon. That’s the issue. This was intentionally a racist joke.",
">\n\nAt this point the motivation was to be entirely racist. Nobody is going to believe anyone they didn’t know.",
">\n\nCan't believe if I'll be forced to not eat any of those on Black History Month.",
">\n\nexactly the shit only whites can be offended about in the name of others. no sane men should deny gods gift of chicken and waffles whatever the occasion.\nit may be a stereotype you recognize for racism, but it also, is fucking delicious.",
">\n\n\nIt's a stupid stereotype that's not even actually racist.\n\nExcept it IS a racist stereotype, has been for centuries, and continues to be so.\nJust because you don't like that it is, doesn't change that fact.\nAdditionally, no one uses the foods of the cultures you presented as a negative facet of their identity...and in fact this is the EXACT argument you see racist people use to say \"it's ok\" to be shitty towards black people.",
">\n\nI'm not explaining something to someone making obviously inflammatory commentary in bad faith. You know the issue isn't with chicken and waffles specifically, as it's been pointed out COUNTLESS times throughout this comment section. It's the inclusion of watermelon, a known negative stereotype.\nYou being ignorant of history isn't anyone's problem, but yours.\nAs for the rest of this tantrum?\nOk, 🤡.\nEdit: Imagine that. Blocking me after making a comment...sorry, throwing a tantrum. Comment:\n\nThe only one doing anything here in bad faith is the one with their silly clown emojis who refuses to support their point and instead prefers to sling mud.\n\nMy reply:\nYou came in here, making wildly racist claims about a topic you're obviously ignorant on, you double down on the racism and ignorance, and when called out and treated with the same respect as you have shown to others...you go into toddler mode.\nNah, I think I'm pretty fucking spot on with my assessment of you.",
">\n\nI'm personally offended that \na. we are eaten\nb. people are offended because we are eaten",
">\n\nSir, you have a license to cluck.",
">\n\nI can understand where they're coming from but as a (former) southerner you should never have to apologize for chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nagreed. if they are good. now bad... then yeah...",
">\n\n... Until it's realized all the cooks are black. \nAh, narrative shift, nothing to see here"
] |
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Would it be ok on the 17th ?
|
[
"What’s wrong with chicken and waffles?",
">\n\nThe problem is when someone responds to Black History Month by pushing stereotypes.\nOutside of context, nothing would be wrong.",
">\n\nis chicken and waffles a stereotype?\nI'm honestly asking. I've never heard of that.",
">\n\nIt had way less to do with Chicken and Waffles being served, and them serving it with watermelon.\nThey could have served it with any other fruit and it would be a non-issue.",
">\n\nChicken waffles and watermelon are all delicious. As a black person this seems kind of a hyperbolic complaint.\nI get the thought behind it but unless they served it in black face I don’t see the issue.\n😂",
">\n\nThe black students at the middle school took issue with it. That's where the push came from and it was specifically regarding adding watermelon to it.",
">\n\nIf the black kids took this at a dig at them, I should imagine it's not a school where they feel valued most other days either",
">\n\nHonoring Black History month by emphasizing stereotypes is pretty tone deaf.\nShit man, I will fuck up some chicken, waffles and watermelon. Just can't imagine someone thought that was a good idea for the first day of black history.",
">\n\nThis.",
">\n\nFor those asking what the problem is with chicken and waffles -\n\nThey served something different from what was planned for the day, and the meal is attached to stereotypes.\nThey went out of their way to serve a watermelon dessert, which has been confirmed as being an extremely rare item.\nThe company did something similar in 2018, and terminated employees who organized it, indicating there was at least something going on that shouldn't have occurred. [src]\nThey also had an issue in 2011 (I wasn't aware of it until reading this article, only the 2018 issue) with UC California-Irvine.\n\nIf it had already been planned and was a common meal, I don't think there'd have been an issue. But for them to change the planned meal on the first day of Black History Month and to include items that were outside the norm is a really bad look for the company and its employees at that school.\nIt's also telling that this is the third time (that we know of) that this has occurred with the same company.",
">\n\nWere green meals used to subjugate and disparage an entire race like watermelon was?\nWhat about pasta-stuffed pizza, or tacos? Either of those specifically used to disparage an entire race?\nNo? Then none of those examples compare.\nAww, what's wrong? Don't like being called out for using the argument racist people do?\nToo fucking bad.",
">\n\nNot the person you responded to, and I am still learning American history as I go. How did white Americans use watermelons to disparage black Americans?",
">\n\nThis is unacceptable! Under no circumstances should anyone ever apologize for serving chicken and waffles. The only acceptable apology is for not serving more chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nI worked in NYC schools for a while. What they should be apologizing for at most schools is serving a couple frozen processed chicken nuggets on a half-toasted eggo and calling it \"chicken and waffles\".",
">\n\nThat's not chicken and waffles! That's a being poor and just eating whatever you have in the freezer kind of meal.",
">\n\nI mean that's more or less the kind of budget public schools are working with. Not to mention that the people working in these kitchens are paid extremely poorly as well. Like 99% of problems in education in the USA, the solution is \"we need more money\". But hey as long as we can make sure grown men get paid millions of dollars to throw balls around and Jeff Bezos can play astronaut who cares about kids, right?",
">\n\nKeep in mind if you're looking at that and going \"wow that's actually a good pay\" keep in mind this is New York City, one of the most expensive spots in the country to live in. I was a high school special education teacher there for five years (and lived there before with even lower paying jobs for 7-8 years). Even if you're at the upper level of that pay scale you're pretty much putting 50% of your income straight into rent, even if you live in a cheap area.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it’s not easy to live here.",
">\n\nDefinitely isn't. I lived there 2006-2019, ended up landing in Michigan after a brief stint in North Carolina, I'm happy I spent such a large chunk of formative adult years there (I moved there right after college) because as someone who grew up in a small, non-diverse New England rural town it was a huge contrast. These days though when people ask if I miss NYC my answer is \"all the things I miss I can get when I go visit\".",
">\n\nThere's nothing wrong with chicken and waffles on any day.",
">\n\nNo, but there's a huge fucking issue with serving watermelon to black students on the first day of BHM...you know, the actual issue.",
">\n\nWhere do you even get fresh watermelon from in February? It's not in season until the end of summer.",
">\n\nLikely grown in south America somewhere.",
">\n\nThe one I got over the weekend said it came from Chile.",
">\n\nApologize for what. This is stupid.",
">\n\nThey changed the menu to serve Chicken and Waffles and Watermelon in honor of BHM.",
">\n\nTo be fair, per the article...\n\n\"While our menu was not intended as a cultural meal, we acknowledge that the timing was inappropriate, and our team should have been more thoughtful in its service,\" the Aramark statement said.\n\nHowever...\n\nAramark has found itself in similar situations in years past, including an incident in 2011 where UC California-Irvine, an Aramark client, was criticized for serving a \"MLH Holiday Special\" that featured chicken and waffles.\n\nSo, yeah, there's something rotten in Aramark.",
">\n\nI love what you did there.",
">\n\nChicken and waffles is fucking awesome",
">\n\nChicken and Waffles do not go with watermelon. That’s the issue. This was intentionally a racist joke.",
">\n\nAt this point the motivation was to be entirely racist. Nobody is going to believe anyone they didn’t know.",
">\n\nCan't believe if I'll be forced to not eat any of those on Black History Month.",
">\n\nexactly the shit only whites can be offended about in the name of others. no sane men should deny gods gift of chicken and waffles whatever the occasion.\nit may be a stereotype you recognize for racism, but it also, is fucking delicious.",
">\n\n\nIt's a stupid stereotype that's not even actually racist.\n\nExcept it IS a racist stereotype, has been for centuries, and continues to be so.\nJust because you don't like that it is, doesn't change that fact.\nAdditionally, no one uses the foods of the cultures you presented as a negative facet of their identity...and in fact this is the EXACT argument you see racist people use to say \"it's ok\" to be shitty towards black people.",
">\n\nI'm not explaining something to someone making obviously inflammatory commentary in bad faith. You know the issue isn't with chicken and waffles specifically, as it's been pointed out COUNTLESS times throughout this comment section. It's the inclusion of watermelon, a known negative stereotype.\nYou being ignorant of history isn't anyone's problem, but yours.\nAs for the rest of this tantrum?\nOk, 🤡.\nEdit: Imagine that. Blocking me after making a comment...sorry, throwing a tantrum. Comment:\n\nThe only one doing anything here in bad faith is the one with their silly clown emojis who refuses to support their point and instead prefers to sling mud.\n\nMy reply:\nYou came in here, making wildly racist claims about a topic you're obviously ignorant on, you double down on the racism and ignorance, and when called out and treated with the same respect as you have shown to others...you go into toddler mode.\nNah, I think I'm pretty fucking spot on with my assessment of you.",
">\n\nI'm personally offended that \na. we are eaten\nb. people are offended because we are eaten",
">\n\nSir, you have a license to cluck.",
">\n\nI can understand where they're coming from but as a (former) southerner you should never have to apologize for chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nagreed. if they are good. now bad... then yeah...",
">\n\n... Until it's realized all the cooks are black. \nAh, narrative shift, nothing to see here",
">\n\nTell that to the black student who was upset being served watermelon then."
] |
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One of my few bright memories from elementary school were of getting to eat different foods from different places during holidays and what not. I'll never be able to eat another latke again, but, I digest,it seems like a foolhardy thing to get pissy about. It's a lot better than my Norwegian ass serving Lutefisk.
|
[
"What’s wrong with chicken and waffles?",
">\n\nThe problem is when someone responds to Black History Month by pushing stereotypes.\nOutside of context, nothing would be wrong.",
">\n\nis chicken and waffles a stereotype?\nI'm honestly asking. I've never heard of that.",
">\n\nIt had way less to do with Chicken and Waffles being served, and them serving it with watermelon.\nThey could have served it with any other fruit and it would be a non-issue.",
">\n\nChicken waffles and watermelon are all delicious. As a black person this seems kind of a hyperbolic complaint.\nI get the thought behind it but unless they served it in black face I don’t see the issue.\n😂",
">\n\nThe black students at the middle school took issue with it. That's where the push came from and it was specifically regarding adding watermelon to it.",
">\n\nIf the black kids took this at a dig at them, I should imagine it's not a school where they feel valued most other days either",
">\n\nHonoring Black History month by emphasizing stereotypes is pretty tone deaf.\nShit man, I will fuck up some chicken, waffles and watermelon. Just can't imagine someone thought that was a good idea for the first day of black history.",
">\n\nThis.",
">\n\nFor those asking what the problem is with chicken and waffles -\n\nThey served something different from what was planned for the day, and the meal is attached to stereotypes.\nThey went out of their way to serve a watermelon dessert, which has been confirmed as being an extremely rare item.\nThe company did something similar in 2018, and terminated employees who organized it, indicating there was at least something going on that shouldn't have occurred. [src]\nThey also had an issue in 2011 (I wasn't aware of it until reading this article, only the 2018 issue) with UC California-Irvine.\n\nIf it had already been planned and was a common meal, I don't think there'd have been an issue. But for them to change the planned meal on the first day of Black History Month and to include items that were outside the norm is a really bad look for the company and its employees at that school.\nIt's also telling that this is the third time (that we know of) that this has occurred with the same company.",
">\n\nWere green meals used to subjugate and disparage an entire race like watermelon was?\nWhat about pasta-stuffed pizza, or tacos? Either of those specifically used to disparage an entire race?\nNo? Then none of those examples compare.\nAww, what's wrong? Don't like being called out for using the argument racist people do?\nToo fucking bad.",
">\n\nNot the person you responded to, and I am still learning American history as I go. How did white Americans use watermelons to disparage black Americans?",
">\n\nThis is unacceptable! Under no circumstances should anyone ever apologize for serving chicken and waffles. The only acceptable apology is for not serving more chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nI worked in NYC schools for a while. What they should be apologizing for at most schools is serving a couple frozen processed chicken nuggets on a half-toasted eggo and calling it \"chicken and waffles\".",
">\n\nThat's not chicken and waffles! That's a being poor and just eating whatever you have in the freezer kind of meal.",
">\n\nI mean that's more or less the kind of budget public schools are working with. Not to mention that the people working in these kitchens are paid extremely poorly as well. Like 99% of problems in education in the USA, the solution is \"we need more money\". But hey as long as we can make sure grown men get paid millions of dollars to throw balls around and Jeff Bezos can play astronaut who cares about kids, right?",
">\n\nKeep in mind if you're looking at that and going \"wow that's actually a good pay\" keep in mind this is New York City, one of the most expensive spots in the country to live in. I was a high school special education teacher there for five years (and lived there before with even lower paying jobs for 7-8 years). Even if you're at the upper level of that pay scale you're pretty much putting 50% of your income straight into rent, even if you live in a cheap area.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it’s not easy to live here.",
">\n\nDefinitely isn't. I lived there 2006-2019, ended up landing in Michigan after a brief stint in North Carolina, I'm happy I spent such a large chunk of formative adult years there (I moved there right after college) because as someone who grew up in a small, non-diverse New England rural town it was a huge contrast. These days though when people ask if I miss NYC my answer is \"all the things I miss I can get when I go visit\".",
">\n\nThere's nothing wrong with chicken and waffles on any day.",
">\n\nNo, but there's a huge fucking issue with serving watermelon to black students on the first day of BHM...you know, the actual issue.",
">\n\nWhere do you even get fresh watermelon from in February? It's not in season until the end of summer.",
">\n\nLikely grown in south America somewhere.",
">\n\nThe one I got over the weekend said it came from Chile.",
">\n\nApologize for what. This is stupid.",
">\n\nThey changed the menu to serve Chicken and Waffles and Watermelon in honor of BHM.",
">\n\nTo be fair, per the article...\n\n\"While our menu was not intended as a cultural meal, we acknowledge that the timing was inappropriate, and our team should have been more thoughtful in its service,\" the Aramark statement said.\n\nHowever...\n\nAramark has found itself in similar situations in years past, including an incident in 2011 where UC California-Irvine, an Aramark client, was criticized for serving a \"MLH Holiday Special\" that featured chicken and waffles.\n\nSo, yeah, there's something rotten in Aramark.",
">\n\nI love what you did there.",
">\n\nChicken and waffles is fucking awesome",
">\n\nChicken and Waffles do not go with watermelon. That’s the issue. This was intentionally a racist joke.",
">\n\nAt this point the motivation was to be entirely racist. Nobody is going to believe anyone they didn’t know.",
">\n\nCan't believe if I'll be forced to not eat any of those on Black History Month.",
">\n\nexactly the shit only whites can be offended about in the name of others. no sane men should deny gods gift of chicken and waffles whatever the occasion.\nit may be a stereotype you recognize for racism, but it also, is fucking delicious.",
">\n\n\nIt's a stupid stereotype that's not even actually racist.\n\nExcept it IS a racist stereotype, has been for centuries, and continues to be so.\nJust because you don't like that it is, doesn't change that fact.\nAdditionally, no one uses the foods of the cultures you presented as a negative facet of their identity...and in fact this is the EXACT argument you see racist people use to say \"it's ok\" to be shitty towards black people.",
">\n\nI'm not explaining something to someone making obviously inflammatory commentary in bad faith. You know the issue isn't with chicken and waffles specifically, as it's been pointed out COUNTLESS times throughout this comment section. It's the inclusion of watermelon, a known negative stereotype.\nYou being ignorant of history isn't anyone's problem, but yours.\nAs for the rest of this tantrum?\nOk, 🤡.\nEdit: Imagine that. Blocking me after making a comment...sorry, throwing a tantrum. Comment:\n\nThe only one doing anything here in bad faith is the one with their silly clown emojis who refuses to support their point and instead prefers to sling mud.\n\nMy reply:\nYou came in here, making wildly racist claims about a topic you're obviously ignorant on, you double down on the racism and ignorance, and when called out and treated with the same respect as you have shown to others...you go into toddler mode.\nNah, I think I'm pretty fucking spot on with my assessment of you.",
">\n\nI'm personally offended that \na. we are eaten\nb. people are offended because we are eaten",
">\n\nSir, you have a license to cluck.",
">\n\nI can understand where they're coming from but as a (former) southerner you should never have to apologize for chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nagreed. if they are good. now bad... then yeah...",
">\n\n... Until it's realized all the cooks are black. \nAh, narrative shift, nothing to see here",
">\n\nTell that to the black student who was upset being served watermelon then.",
">\n\nWould it be ok on the 17th ?"
] |
>
You can make latkes, it's pretty easy
|
[
"What’s wrong with chicken and waffles?",
">\n\nThe problem is when someone responds to Black History Month by pushing stereotypes.\nOutside of context, nothing would be wrong.",
">\n\nis chicken and waffles a stereotype?\nI'm honestly asking. I've never heard of that.",
">\n\nIt had way less to do with Chicken and Waffles being served, and them serving it with watermelon.\nThey could have served it with any other fruit and it would be a non-issue.",
">\n\nChicken waffles and watermelon are all delicious. As a black person this seems kind of a hyperbolic complaint.\nI get the thought behind it but unless they served it in black face I don’t see the issue.\n😂",
">\n\nThe black students at the middle school took issue with it. That's where the push came from and it was specifically regarding adding watermelon to it.",
">\n\nIf the black kids took this at a dig at them, I should imagine it's not a school where they feel valued most other days either",
">\n\nHonoring Black History month by emphasizing stereotypes is pretty tone deaf.\nShit man, I will fuck up some chicken, waffles and watermelon. Just can't imagine someone thought that was a good idea for the first day of black history.",
">\n\nThis.",
">\n\nFor those asking what the problem is with chicken and waffles -\n\nThey served something different from what was planned for the day, and the meal is attached to stereotypes.\nThey went out of their way to serve a watermelon dessert, which has been confirmed as being an extremely rare item.\nThe company did something similar in 2018, and terminated employees who organized it, indicating there was at least something going on that shouldn't have occurred. [src]\nThey also had an issue in 2011 (I wasn't aware of it until reading this article, only the 2018 issue) with UC California-Irvine.\n\nIf it had already been planned and was a common meal, I don't think there'd have been an issue. But for them to change the planned meal on the first day of Black History Month and to include items that were outside the norm is a really bad look for the company and its employees at that school.\nIt's also telling that this is the third time (that we know of) that this has occurred with the same company.",
">\n\nWere green meals used to subjugate and disparage an entire race like watermelon was?\nWhat about pasta-stuffed pizza, or tacos? Either of those specifically used to disparage an entire race?\nNo? Then none of those examples compare.\nAww, what's wrong? Don't like being called out for using the argument racist people do?\nToo fucking bad.",
">\n\nNot the person you responded to, and I am still learning American history as I go. How did white Americans use watermelons to disparage black Americans?",
">\n\nThis is unacceptable! Under no circumstances should anyone ever apologize for serving chicken and waffles. The only acceptable apology is for not serving more chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nI worked in NYC schools for a while. What they should be apologizing for at most schools is serving a couple frozen processed chicken nuggets on a half-toasted eggo and calling it \"chicken and waffles\".",
">\n\nThat's not chicken and waffles! That's a being poor and just eating whatever you have in the freezer kind of meal.",
">\n\nI mean that's more or less the kind of budget public schools are working with. Not to mention that the people working in these kitchens are paid extremely poorly as well. Like 99% of problems in education in the USA, the solution is \"we need more money\". But hey as long as we can make sure grown men get paid millions of dollars to throw balls around and Jeff Bezos can play astronaut who cares about kids, right?",
">\n\nKeep in mind if you're looking at that and going \"wow that's actually a good pay\" keep in mind this is New York City, one of the most expensive spots in the country to live in. I was a high school special education teacher there for five years (and lived there before with even lower paying jobs for 7-8 years). Even if you're at the upper level of that pay scale you're pretty much putting 50% of your income straight into rent, even if you live in a cheap area.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it’s not easy to live here.",
">\n\nDefinitely isn't. I lived there 2006-2019, ended up landing in Michigan after a brief stint in North Carolina, I'm happy I spent such a large chunk of formative adult years there (I moved there right after college) because as someone who grew up in a small, non-diverse New England rural town it was a huge contrast. These days though when people ask if I miss NYC my answer is \"all the things I miss I can get when I go visit\".",
">\n\nThere's nothing wrong with chicken and waffles on any day.",
">\n\nNo, but there's a huge fucking issue with serving watermelon to black students on the first day of BHM...you know, the actual issue.",
">\n\nWhere do you even get fresh watermelon from in February? It's not in season until the end of summer.",
">\n\nLikely grown in south America somewhere.",
">\n\nThe one I got over the weekend said it came from Chile.",
">\n\nApologize for what. This is stupid.",
">\n\nThey changed the menu to serve Chicken and Waffles and Watermelon in honor of BHM.",
">\n\nTo be fair, per the article...\n\n\"While our menu was not intended as a cultural meal, we acknowledge that the timing was inappropriate, and our team should have been more thoughtful in its service,\" the Aramark statement said.\n\nHowever...\n\nAramark has found itself in similar situations in years past, including an incident in 2011 where UC California-Irvine, an Aramark client, was criticized for serving a \"MLH Holiday Special\" that featured chicken and waffles.\n\nSo, yeah, there's something rotten in Aramark.",
">\n\nI love what you did there.",
">\n\nChicken and waffles is fucking awesome",
">\n\nChicken and Waffles do not go with watermelon. That’s the issue. This was intentionally a racist joke.",
">\n\nAt this point the motivation was to be entirely racist. Nobody is going to believe anyone they didn’t know.",
">\n\nCan't believe if I'll be forced to not eat any of those on Black History Month.",
">\n\nexactly the shit only whites can be offended about in the name of others. no sane men should deny gods gift of chicken and waffles whatever the occasion.\nit may be a stereotype you recognize for racism, but it also, is fucking delicious.",
">\n\n\nIt's a stupid stereotype that's not even actually racist.\n\nExcept it IS a racist stereotype, has been for centuries, and continues to be so.\nJust because you don't like that it is, doesn't change that fact.\nAdditionally, no one uses the foods of the cultures you presented as a negative facet of their identity...and in fact this is the EXACT argument you see racist people use to say \"it's ok\" to be shitty towards black people.",
">\n\nI'm not explaining something to someone making obviously inflammatory commentary in bad faith. You know the issue isn't with chicken and waffles specifically, as it's been pointed out COUNTLESS times throughout this comment section. It's the inclusion of watermelon, a known negative stereotype.\nYou being ignorant of history isn't anyone's problem, but yours.\nAs for the rest of this tantrum?\nOk, 🤡.\nEdit: Imagine that. Blocking me after making a comment...sorry, throwing a tantrum. Comment:\n\nThe only one doing anything here in bad faith is the one with their silly clown emojis who refuses to support their point and instead prefers to sling mud.\n\nMy reply:\nYou came in here, making wildly racist claims about a topic you're obviously ignorant on, you double down on the racism and ignorance, and when called out and treated with the same respect as you have shown to others...you go into toddler mode.\nNah, I think I'm pretty fucking spot on with my assessment of you.",
">\n\nI'm personally offended that \na. we are eaten\nb. people are offended because we are eaten",
">\n\nSir, you have a license to cluck.",
">\n\nI can understand where they're coming from but as a (former) southerner you should never have to apologize for chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nagreed. if they are good. now bad... then yeah...",
">\n\n... Until it's realized all the cooks are black. \nAh, narrative shift, nothing to see here",
">\n\nTell that to the black student who was upset being served watermelon then.",
">\n\nWould it be ok on the 17th ?",
">\n\nOne of my few bright memories from elementary school were of getting to eat different foods from different places during holidays and what not. I'll never be able to eat another latke again, but, I digest,it seems like a foolhardy thing to get pissy about. It's a lot better than my Norwegian ass serving Lutefisk."
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I’m white and grew in the south, personally I have a hard time understanding how this is wrong. Literally everyone besides probably the vegans moving from California love fried foods, for fucks sake some of the most popular items at the Texas State Fair have been fried candy bars and fried BUTTER. I literally eat fried chicken and waffles a few times a month and that’s because I’m on a diet and am trying to lose weight. When I was a kid when they were in season we literally used to go through at least one watermelon a week and I’m not taking about those small snack size ones. Pro tip if you have a waffle maker; cornbread waffles. Enough said… The only thing they were missing was fried okra which is the only side dish anyone ever needs.
Also not every stereotype has to have a negative connotation. I’m Jewish and most of us like stereotypical foods. When I was a kid and went to shul after the service there would usually be a spread with bagels, schmear, sometimes lox, kugel, gefilte fish (absolutely disgusting), and when we were really lucky a cholent.
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[
"What’s wrong with chicken and waffles?",
">\n\nThe problem is when someone responds to Black History Month by pushing stereotypes.\nOutside of context, nothing would be wrong.",
">\n\nis chicken and waffles a stereotype?\nI'm honestly asking. I've never heard of that.",
">\n\nIt had way less to do with Chicken and Waffles being served, and them serving it with watermelon.\nThey could have served it with any other fruit and it would be a non-issue.",
">\n\nChicken waffles and watermelon are all delicious. As a black person this seems kind of a hyperbolic complaint.\nI get the thought behind it but unless they served it in black face I don’t see the issue.\n😂",
">\n\nThe black students at the middle school took issue with it. That's where the push came from and it was specifically regarding adding watermelon to it.",
">\n\nIf the black kids took this at a dig at them, I should imagine it's not a school where they feel valued most other days either",
">\n\nHonoring Black History month by emphasizing stereotypes is pretty tone deaf.\nShit man, I will fuck up some chicken, waffles and watermelon. Just can't imagine someone thought that was a good idea for the first day of black history.",
">\n\nThis.",
">\n\nFor those asking what the problem is with chicken and waffles -\n\nThey served something different from what was planned for the day, and the meal is attached to stereotypes.\nThey went out of their way to serve a watermelon dessert, which has been confirmed as being an extremely rare item.\nThe company did something similar in 2018, and terminated employees who organized it, indicating there was at least something going on that shouldn't have occurred. [src]\nThey also had an issue in 2011 (I wasn't aware of it until reading this article, only the 2018 issue) with UC California-Irvine.\n\nIf it had already been planned and was a common meal, I don't think there'd have been an issue. But for them to change the planned meal on the first day of Black History Month and to include items that were outside the norm is a really bad look for the company and its employees at that school.\nIt's also telling that this is the third time (that we know of) that this has occurred with the same company.",
">\n\nWere green meals used to subjugate and disparage an entire race like watermelon was?\nWhat about pasta-stuffed pizza, or tacos? Either of those specifically used to disparage an entire race?\nNo? Then none of those examples compare.\nAww, what's wrong? Don't like being called out for using the argument racist people do?\nToo fucking bad.",
">\n\nNot the person you responded to, and I am still learning American history as I go. How did white Americans use watermelons to disparage black Americans?",
">\n\nThis is unacceptable! Under no circumstances should anyone ever apologize for serving chicken and waffles. The only acceptable apology is for not serving more chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nI worked in NYC schools for a while. What they should be apologizing for at most schools is serving a couple frozen processed chicken nuggets on a half-toasted eggo and calling it \"chicken and waffles\".",
">\n\nThat's not chicken and waffles! That's a being poor and just eating whatever you have in the freezer kind of meal.",
">\n\nI mean that's more or less the kind of budget public schools are working with. Not to mention that the people working in these kitchens are paid extremely poorly as well. Like 99% of problems in education in the USA, the solution is \"we need more money\". But hey as long as we can make sure grown men get paid millions of dollars to throw balls around and Jeff Bezos can play astronaut who cares about kids, right?",
">\n\nKeep in mind if you're looking at that and going \"wow that's actually a good pay\" keep in mind this is New York City, one of the most expensive spots in the country to live in. I was a high school special education teacher there for five years (and lived there before with even lower paying jobs for 7-8 years). Even if you're at the upper level of that pay scale you're pretty much putting 50% of your income straight into rent, even if you live in a cheap area.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it’s not easy to live here.",
">\n\nDefinitely isn't. I lived there 2006-2019, ended up landing in Michigan after a brief stint in North Carolina, I'm happy I spent such a large chunk of formative adult years there (I moved there right after college) because as someone who grew up in a small, non-diverse New England rural town it was a huge contrast. These days though when people ask if I miss NYC my answer is \"all the things I miss I can get when I go visit\".",
">\n\nThere's nothing wrong with chicken and waffles on any day.",
">\n\nNo, but there's a huge fucking issue with serving watermelon to black students on the first day of BHM...you know, the actual issue.",
">\n\nWhere do you even get fresh watermelon from in February? It's not in season until the end of summer.",
">\n\nLikely grown in south America somewhere.",
">\n\nThe one I got over the weekend said it came from Chile.",
">\n\nApologize for what. This is stupid.",
">\n\nThey changed the menu to serve Chicken and Waffles and Watermelon in honor of BHM.",
">\n\nTo be fair, per the article...\n\n\"While our menu was not intended as a cultural meal, we acknowledge that the timing was inappropriate, and our team should have been more thoughtful in its service,\" the Aramark statement said.\n\nHowever...\n\nAramark has found itself in similar situations in years past, including an incident in 2011 where UC California-Irvine, an Aramark client, was criticized for serving a \"MLH Holiday Special\" that featured chicken and waffles.\n\nSo, yeah, there's something rotten in Aramark.",
">\n\nI love what you did there.",
">\n\nChicken and waffles is fucking awesome",
">\n\nChicken and Waffles do not go with watermelon. That’s the issue. This was intentionally a racist joke.",
">\n\nAt this point the motivation was to be entirely racist. Nobody is going to believe anyone they didn’t know.",
">\n\nCan't believe if I'll be forced to not eat any of those on Black History Month.",
">\n\nexactly the shit only whites can be offended about in the name of others. no sane men should deny gods gift of chicken and waffles whatever the occasion.\nit may be a stereotype you recognize for racism, but it also, is fucking delicious.",
">\n\n\nIt's a stupid stereotype that's not even actually racist.\n\nExcept it IS a racist stereotype, has been for centuries, and continues to be so.\nJust because you don't like that it is, doesn't change that fact.\nAdditionally, no one uses the foods of the cultures you presented as a negative facet of their identity...and in fact this is the EXACT argument you see racist people use to say \"it's ok\" to be shitty towards black people.",
">\n\nI'm not explaining something to someone making obviously inflammatory commentary in bad faith. You know the issue isn't with chicken and waffles specifically, as it's been pointed out COUNTLESS times throughout this comment section. It's the inclusion of watermelon, a known negative stereotype.\nYou being ignorant of history isn't anyone's problem, but yours.\nAs for the rest of this tantrum?\nOk, 🤡.\nEdit: Imagine that. Blocking me after making a comment...sorry, throwing a tantrum. Comment:\n\nThe only one doing anything here in bad faith is the one with their silly clown emojis who refuses to support their point and instead prefers to sling mud.\n\nMy reply:\nYou came in here, making wildly racist claims about a topic you're obviously ignorant on, you double down on the racism and ignorance, and when called out and treated with the same respect as you have shown to others...you go into toddler mode.\nNah, I think I'm pretty fucking spot on with my assessment of you.",
">\n\nI'm personally offended that \na. we are eaten\nb. people are offended because we are eaten",
">\n\nSir, you have a license to cluck.",
">\n\nI can understand where they're coming from but as a (former) southerner you should never have to apologize for chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nagreed. if they are good. now bad... then yeah...",
">\n\n... Until it's realized all the cooks are black. \nAh, narrative shift, nothing to see here",
">\n\nTell that to the black student who was upset being served watermelon then.",
">\n\nWould it be ok on the 17th ?",
">\n\nOne of my few bright memories from elementary school were of getting to eat different foods from different places during holidays and what not. I'll never be able to eat another latke again, but, I digest,it seems like a foolhardy thing to get pissy about. It's a lot better than my Norwegian ass serving Lutefisk.",
">\n\nYou can make latkes, it's pretty easy"
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It’s the watermelon 🍉 and the chicken 🍗 combination that is offensive. Not the chicken and waffles part. Weird headline.
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"What’s wrong with chicken and waffles?",
">\n\nThe problem is when someone responds to Black History Month by pushing stereotypes.\nOutside of context, nothing would be wrong.",
">\n\nis chicken and waffles a stereotype?\nI'm honestly asking. I've never heard of that.",
">\n\nIt had way less to do with Chicken and Waffles being served, and them serving it with watermelon.\nThey could have served it with any other fruit and it would be a non-issue.",
">\n\nChicken waffles and watermelon are all delicious. As a black person this seems kind of a hyperbolic complaint.\nI get the thought behind it but unless they served it in black face I don’t see the issue.\n😂",
">\n\nThe black students at the middle school took issue with it. That's where the push came from and it was specifically regarding adding watermelon to it.",
">\n\nIf the black kids took this at a dig at them, I should imagine it's not a school where they feel valued most other days either",
">\n\nHonoring Black History month by emphasizing stereotypes is pretty tone deaf.\nShit man, I will fuck up some chicken, waffles and watermelon. Just can't imagine someone thought that was a good idea for the first day of black history.",
">\n\nThis.",
">\n\nFor those asking what the problem is with chicken and waffles -\n\nThey served something different from what was planned for the day, and the meal is attached to stereotypes.\nThey went out of their way to serve a watermelon dessert, which has been confirmed as being an extremely rare item.\nThe company did something similar in 2018, and terminated employees who organized it, indicating there was at least something going on that shouldn't have occurred. [src]\nThey also had an issue in 2011 (I wasn't aware of it until reading this article, only the 2018 issue) with UC California-Irvine.\n\nIf it had already been planned and was a common meal, I don't think there'd have been an issue. But for them to change the planned meal on the first day of Black History Month and to include items that were outside the norm is a really bad look for the company and its employees at that school.\nIt's also telling that this is the third time (that we know of) that this has occurred with the same company.",
">\n\nWere green meals used to subjugate and disparage an entire race like watermelon was?\nWhat about pasta-stuffed pizza, or tacos? Either of those specifically used to disparage an entire race?\nNo? Then none of those examples compare.\nAww, what's wrong? Don't like being called out for using the argument racist people do?\nToo fucking bad.",
">\n\nNot the person you responded to, and I am still learning American history as I go. How did white Americans use watermelons to disparage black Americans?",
">\n\nThis is unacceptable! Under no circumstances should anyone ever apologize for serving chicken and waffles. The only acceptable apology is for not serving more chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nI worked in NYC schools for a while. What they should be apologizing for at most schools is serving a couple frozen processed chicken nuggets on a half-toasted eggo and calling it \"chicken and waffles\".",
">\n\nThat's not chicken and waffles! That's a being poor and just eating whatever you have in the freezer kind of meal.",
">\n\nI mean that's more or less the kind of budget public schools are working with. Not to mention that the people working in these kitchens are paid extremely poorly as well. Like 99% of problems in education in the USA, the solution is \"we need more money\". But hey as long as we can make sure grown men get paid millions of dollars to throw balls around and Jeff Bezos can play astronaut who cares about kids, right?",
">\n\nKeep in mind if you're looking at that and going \"wow that's actually a good pay\" keep in mind this is New York City, one of the most expensive spots in the country to live in. I was a high school special education teacher there for five years (and lived there before with even lower paying jobs for 7-8 years). Even if you're at the upper level of that pay scale you're pretty much putting 50% of your income straight into rent, even if you live in a cheap area.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it’s not easy to live here.",
">\n\nDefinitely isn't. I lived there 2006-2019, ended up landing in Michigan after a brief stint in North Carolina, I'm happy I spent such a large chunk of formative adult years there (I moved there right after college) because as someone who grew up in a small, non-diverse New England rural town it was a huge contrast. These days though when people ask if I miss NYC my answer is \"all the things I miss I can get when I go visit\".",
">\n\nThere's nothing wrong with chicken and waffles on any day.",
">\n\nNo, but there's a huge fucking issue with serving watermelon to black students on the first day of BHM...you know, the actual issue.",
">\n\nWhere do you even get fresh watermelon from in February? It's not in season until the end of summer.",
">\n\nLikely grown in south America somewhere.",
">\n\nThe one I got over the weekend said it came from Chile.",
">\n\nApologize for what. This is stupid.",
">\n\nThey changed the menu to serve Chicken and Waffles and Watermelon in honor of BHM.",
">\n\nTo be fair, per the article...\n\n\"While our menu was not intended as a cultural meal, we acknowledge that the timing was inappropriate, and our team should have been more thoughtful in its service,\" the Aramark statement said.\n\nHowever...\n\nAramark has found itself in similar situations in years past, including an incident in 2011 where UC California-Irvine, an Aramark client, was criticized for serving a \"MLH Holiday Special\" that featured chicken and waffles.\n\nSo, yeah, there's something rotten in Aramark.",
">\n\nI love what you did there.",
">\n\nChicken and waffles is fucking awesome",
">\n\nChicken and Waffles do not go with watermelon. That’s the issue. This was intentionally a racist joke.",
">\n\nAt this point the motivation was to be entirely racist. Nobody is going to believe anyone they didn’t know.",
">\n\nCan't believe if I'll be forced to not eat any of those on Black History Month.",
">\n\nexactly the shit only whites can be offended about in the name of others. no sane men should deny gods gift of chicken and waffles whatever the occasion.\nit may be a stereotype you recognize for racism, but it also, is fucking delicious.",
">\n\n\nIt's a stupid stereotype that's not even actually racist.\n\nExcept it IS a racist stereotype, has been for centuries, and continues to be so.\nJust because you don't like that it is, doesn't change that fact.\nAdditionally, no one uses the foods of the cultures you presented as a negative facet of their identity...and in fact this is the EXACT argument you see racist people use to say \"it's ok\" to be shitty towards black people.",
">\n\nI'm not explaining something to someone making obviously inflammatory commentary in bad faith. You know the issue isn't with chicken and waffles specifically, as it's been pointed out COUNTLESS times throughout this comment section. It's the inclusion of watermelon, a known negative stereotype.\nYou being ignorant of history isn't anyone's problem, but yours.\nAs for the rest of this tantrum?\nOk, 🤡.\nEdit: Imagine that. Blocking me after making a comment...sorry, throwing a tantrum. Comment:\n\nThe only one doing anything here in bad faith is the one with their silly clown emojis who refuses to support their point and instead prefers to sling mud.\n\nMy reply:\nYou came in here, making wildly racist claims about a topic you're obviously ignorant on, you double down on the racism and ignorance, and when called out and treated with the same respect as you have shown to others...you go into toddler mode.\nNah, I think I'm pretty fucking spot on with my assessment of you.",
">\n\nI'm personally offended that \na. we are eaten\nb. people are offended because we are eaten",
">\n\nSir, you have a license to cluck.",
">\n\nI can understand where they're coming from but as a (former) southerner you should never have to apologize for chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nagreed. if they are good. now bad... then yeah...",
">\n\n... Until it's realized all the cooks are black. \nAh, narrative shift, nothing to see here",
">\n\nTell that to the black student who was upset being served watermelon then.",
">\n\nWould it be ok on the 17th ?",
">\n\nOne of my few bright memories from elementary school were of getting to eat different foods from different places during holidays and what not. I'll never be able to eat another latke again, but, I digest,it seems like a foolhardy thing to get pissy about. It's a lot better than my Norwegian ass serving Lutefisk.",
">\n\nYou can make latkes, it's pretty easy",
">\n\nI’m white and grew in the south, personally I have a hard time understanding how this is wrong. Literally everyone besides probably the vegans moving from California love fried foods, for fucks sake some of the most popular items at the Texas State Fair have been fried candy bars and fried BUTTER. I literally eat fried chicken and waffles a few times a month and that’s because I’m on a diet and am trying to lose weight. When I was a kid when they were in season we literally used to go through at least one watermelon a week and I’m not taking about those small snack size ones. Pro tip if you have a waffle maker; cornbread waffles. Enough said… The only thing they were missing was fried okra which is the only side dish anyone ever needs.\nAlso not every stereotype has to have a negative connotation. I’m Jewish and most of us like stereotypical foods. When I was a kid and went to shul after the service there would usually be a spread with bagels, schmear, sometimes lox, kugel, gefilte fish (absolutely disgusting), and when we were really lucky a cholent."
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They're mad because it should be a weekly menu item!
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[
"What’s wrong with chicken and waffles?",
">\n\nThe problem is when someone responds to Black History Month by pushing stereotypes.\nOutside of context, nothing would be wrong.",
">\n\nis chicken and waffles a stereotype?\nI'm honestly asking. I've never heard of that.",
">\n\nIt had way less to do with Chicken and Waffles being served, and them serving it with watermelon.\nThey could have served it with any other fruit and it would be a non-issue.",
">\n\nChicken waffles and watermelon are all delicious. As a black person this seems kind of a hyperbolic complaint.\nI get the thought behind it but unless they served it in black face I don’t see the issue.\n😂",
">\n\nThe black students at the middle school took issue with it. That's where the push came from and it was specifically regarding adding watermelon to it.",
">\n\nIf the black kids took this at a dig at them, I should imagine it's not a school where they feel valued most other days either",
">\n\nHonoring Black History month by emphasizing stereotypes is pretty tone deaf.\nShit man, I will fuck up some chicken, waffles and watermelon. Just can't imagine someone thought that was a good idea for the first day of black history.",
">\n\nThis.",
">\n\nFor those asking what the problem is with chicken and waffles -\n\nThey served something different from what was planned for the day, and the meal is attached to stereotypes.\nThey went out of their way to serve a watermelon dessert, which has been confirmed as being an extremely rare item.\nThe company did something similar in 2018, and terminated employees who organized it, indicating there was at least something going on that shouldn't have occurred. [src]\nThey also had an issue in 2011 (I wasn't aware of it until reading this article, only the 2018 issue) with UC California-Irvine.\n\nIf it had already been planned and was a common meal, I don't think there'd have been an issue. But for them to change the planned meal on the first day of Black History Month and to include items that were outside the norm is a really bad look for the company and its employees at that school.\nIt's also telling that this is the third time (that we know of) that this has occurred with the same company.",
">\n\nWere green meals used to subjugate and disparage an entire race like watermelon was?\nWhat about pasta-stuffed pizza, or tacos? Either of those specifically used to disparage an entire race?\nNo? Then none of those examples compare.\nAww, what's wrong? Don't like being called out for using the argument racist people do?\nToo fucking bad.",
">\n\nNot the person you responded to, and I am still learning American history as I go. How did white Americans use watermelons to disparage black Americans?",
">\n\nThis is unacceptable! Under no circumstances should anyone ever apologize for serving chicken and waffles. The only acceptable apology is for not serving more chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nI worked in NYC schools for a while. What they should be apologizing for at most schools is serving a couple frozen processed chicken nuggets on a half-toasted eggo and calling it \"chicken and waffles\".",
">\n\nThat's not chicken and waffles! That's a being poor and just eating whatever you have in the freezer kind of meal.",
">\n\nI mean that's more or less the kind of budget public schools are working with. Not to mention that the people working in these kitchens are paid extremely poorly as well. Like 99% of problems in education in the USA, the solution is \"we need more money\". But hey as long as we can make sure grown men get paid millions of dollars to throw balls around and Jeff Bezos can play astronaut who cares about kids, right?",
">\n\nKeep in mind if you're looking at that and going \"wow that's actually a good pay\" keep in mind this is New York City, one of the most expensive spots in the country to live in. I was a high school special education teacher there for five years (and lived there before with even lower paying jobs for 7-8 years). Even if you're at the upper level of that pay scale you're pretty much putting 50% of your income straight into rent, even if you live in a cheap area.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it’s not easy to live here.",
">\n\nDefinitely isn't. I lived there 2006-2019, ended up landing in Michigan after a brief stint in North Carolina, I'm happy I spent such a large chunk of formative adult years there (I moved there right after college) because as someone who grew up in a small, non-diverse New England rural town it was a huge contrast. These days though when people ask if I miss NYC my answer is \"all the things I miss I can get when I go visit\".",
">\n\nThere's nothing wrong with chicken and waffles on any day.",
">\n\nNo, but there's a huge fucking issue with serving watermelon to black students on the first day of BHM...you know, the actual issue.",
">\n\nWhere do you even get fresh watermelon from in February? It's not in season until the end of summer.",
">\n\nLikely grown in south America somewhere.",
">\n\nThe one I got over the weekend said it came from Chile.",
">\n\nApologize for what. This is stupid.",
">\n\nThey changed the menu to serve Chicken and Waffles and Watermelon in honor of BHM.",
">\n\nTo be fair, per the article...\n\n\"While our menu was not intended as a cultural meal, we acknowledge that the timing was inappropriate, and our team should have been more thoughtful in its service,\" the Aramark statement said.\n\nHowever...\n\nAramark has found itself in similar situations in years past, including an incident in 2011 where UC California-Irvine, an Aramark client, was criticized for serving a \"MLH Holiday Special\" that featured chicken and waffles.\n\nSo, yeah, there's something rotten in Aramark.",
">\n\nI love what you did there.",
">\n\nChicken and waffles is fucking awesome",
">\n\nChicken and Waffles do not go with watermelon. That’s the issue. This was intentionally a racist joke.",
">\n\nAt this point the motivation was to be entirely racist. Nobody is going to believe anyone they didn’t know.",
">\n\nCan't believe if I'll be forced to not eat any of those on Black History Month.",
">\n\nexactly the shit only whites can be offended about in the name of others. no sane men should deny gods gift of chicken and waffles whatever the occasion.\nit may be a stereotype you recognize for racism, but it also, is fucking delicious.",
">\n\n\nIt's a stupid stereotype that's not even actually racist.\n\nExcept it IS a racist stereotype, has been for centuries, and continues to be so.\nJust because you don't like that it is, doesn't change that fact.\nAdditionally, no one uses the foods of the cultures you presented as a negative facet of their identity...and in fact this is the EXACT argument you see racist people use to say \"it's ok\" to be shitty towards black people.",
">\n\nI'm not explaining something to someone making obviously inflammatory commentary in bad faith. You know the issue isn't with chicken and waffles specifically, as it's been pointed out COUNTLESS times throughout this comment section. It's the inclusion of watermelon, a known negative stereotype.\nYou being ignorant of history isn't anyone's problem, but yours.\nAs for the rest of this tantrum?\nOk, 🤡.\nEdit: Imagine that. Blocking me after making a comment...sorry, throwing a tantrum. Comment:\n\nThe only one doing anything here in bad faith is the one with their silly clown emojis who refuses to support their point and instead prefers to sling mud.\n\nMy reply:\nYou came in here, making wildly racist claims about a topic you're obviously ignorant on, you double down on the racism and ignorance, and when called out and treated with the same respect as you have shown to others...you go into toddler mode.\nNah, I think I'm pretty fucking spot on with my assessment of you.",
">\n\nI'm personally offended that \na. we are eaten\nb. people are offended because we are eaten",
">\n\nSir, you have a license to cluck.",
">\n\nI can understand where they're coming from but as a (former) southerner you should never have to apologize for chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nagreed. if they are good. now bad... then yeah...",
">\n\n... Until it's realized all the cooks are black. \nAh, narrative shift, nothing to see here",
">\n\nTell that to the black student who was upset being served watermelon then.",
">\n\nWould it be ok on the 17th ?",
">\n\nOne of my few bright memories from elementary school were of getting to eat different foods from different places during holidays and what not. I'll never be able to eat another latke again, but, I digest,it seems like a foolhardy thing to get pissy about. It's a lot better than my Norwegian ass serving Lutefisk.",
">\n\nYou can make latkes, it's pretty easy",
">\n\nI’m white and grew in the south, personally I have a hard time understanding how this is wrong. Literally everyone besides probably the vegans moving from California love fried foods, for fucks sake some of the most popular items at the Texas State Fair have been fried candy bars and fried BUTTER. I literally eat fried chicken and waffles a few times a month and that’s because I’m on a diet and am trying to lose weight. When I was a kid when they were in season we literally used to go through at least one watermelon a week and I’m not taking about those small snack size ones. Pro tip if you have a waffle maker; cornbread waffles. Enough said… The only thing they were missing was fried okra which is the only side dish anyone ever needs.\nAlso not every stereotype has to have a negative connotation. I’m Jewish and most of us like stereotypical foods. When I was a kid and went to shul after the service there would usually be a spread with bagels, schmear, sometimes lox, kugel, gefilte fish (absolutely disgusting), and when we were really lucky a cholent.",
">\n\nIt’s the watermelon 🍉 and the chicken 🍗 combination that is offensive. Not the chicken and waffles part. Weird headline."
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Hold the phone. Aren't waffles like European? Explain like i'm five how waffles are racist while I make me a Belgian waffle with lingonberry and whipped cream. Hold the phone again. Nutella and whipped cream. (Don't have any lingonberries handy) Ok, now explain.
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[
"What’s wrong with chicken and waffles?",
">\n\nThe problem is when someone responds to Black History Month by pushing stereotypes.\nOutside of context, nothing would be wrong.",
">\n\nis chicken and waffles a stereotype?\nI'm honestly asking. I've never heard of that.",
">\n\nIt had way less to do with Chicken and Waffles being served, and them serving it with watermelon.\nThey could have served it with any other fruit and it would be a non-issue.",
">\n\nChicken waffles and watermelon are all delicious. As a black person this seems kind of a hyperbolic complaint.\nI get the thought behind it but unless they served it in black face I don’t see the issue.\n😂",
">\n\nThe black students at the middle school took issue with it. That's where the push came from and it was specifically regarding adding watermelon to it.",
">\n\nIf the black kids took this at a dig at them, I should imagine it's not a school where they feel valued most other days either",
">\n\nHonoring Black History month by emphasizing stereotypes is pretty tone deaf.\nShit man, I will fuck up some chicken, waffles and watermelon. Just can't imagine someone thought that was a good idea for the first day of black history.",
">\n\nThis.",
">\n\nFor those asking what the problem is with chicken and waffles -\n\nThey served something different from what was planned for the day, and the meal is attached to stereotypes.\nThey went out of their way to serve a watermelon dessert, which has been confirmed as being an extremely rare item.\nThe company did something similar in 2018, and terminated employees who organized it, indicating there was at least something going on that shouldn't have occurred. [src]\nThey also had an issue in 2011 (I wasn't aware of it until reading this article, only the 2018 issue) with UC California-Irvine.\n\nIf it had already been planned and was a common meal, I don't think there'd have been an issue. But for them to change the planned meal on the first day of Black History Month and to include items that were outside the norm is a really bad look for the company and its employees at that school.\nIt's also telling that this is the third time (that we know of) that this has occurred with the same company.",
">\n\nWere green meals used to subjugate and disparage an entire race like watermelon was?\nWhat about pasta-stuffed pizza, or tacos? Either of those specifically used to disparage an entire race?\nNo? Then none of those examples compare.\nAww, what's wrong? Don't like being called out for using the argument racist people do?\nToo fucking bad.",
">\n\nNot the person you responded to, and I am still learning American history as I go. How did white Americans use watermelons to disparage black Americans?",
">\n\nThis is unacceptable! Under no circumstances should anyone ever apologize for serving chicken and waffles. The only acceptable apology is for not serving more chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nI worked in NYC schools for a while. What they should be apologizing for at most schools is serving a couple frozen processed chicken nuggets on a half-toasted eggo and calling it \"chicken and waffles\".",
">\n\nThat's not chicken and waffles! That's a being poor and just eating whatever you have in the freezer kind of meal.",
">\n\nI mean that's more or less the kind of budget public schools are working with. Not to mention that the people working in these kitchens are paid extremely poorly as well. Like 99% of problems in education in the USA, the solution is \"we need more money\". But hey as long as we can make sure grown men get paid millions of dollars to throw balls around and Jeff Bezos can play astronaut who cares about kids, right?",
">\n\nKeep in mind if you're looking at that and going \"wow that's actually a good pay\" keep in mind this is New York City, one of the most expensive spots in the country to live in. I was a high school special education teacher there for five years (and lived there before with even lower paying jobs for 7-8 years). Even if you're at the upper level of that pay scale you're pretty much putting 50% of your income straight into rent, even if you live in a cheap area.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it’s not easy to live here.",
">\n\nDefinitely isn't. I lived there 2006-2019, ended up landing in Michigan after a brief stint in North Carolina, I'm happy I spent such a large chunk of formative adult years there (I moved there right after college) because as someone who grew up in a small, non-diverse New England rural town it was a huge contrast. These days though when people ask if I miss NYC my answer is \"all the things I miss I can get when I go visit\".",
">\n\nThere's nothing wrong with chicken and waffles on any day.",
">\n\nNo, but there's a huge fucking issue with serving watermelon to black students on the first day of BHM...you know, the actual issue.",
">\n\nWhere do you even get fresh watermelon from in February? It's not in season until the end of summer.",
">\n\nLikely grown in south America somewhere.",
">\n\nThe one I got over the weekend said it came from Chile.",
">\n\nApologize for what. This is stupid.",
">\n\nThey changed the menu to serve Chicken and Waffles and Watermelon in honor of BHM.",
">\n\nTo be fair, per the article...\n\n\"While our menu was not intended as a cultural meal, we acknowledge that the timing was inappropriate, and our team should have been more thoughtful in its service,\" the Aramark statement said.\n\nHowever...\n\nAramark has found itself in similar situations in years past, including an incident in 2011 where UC California-Irvine, an Aramark client, was criticized for serving a \"MLH Holiday Special\" that featured chicken and waffles.\n\nSo, yeah, there's something rotten in Aramark.",
">\n\nI love what you did there.",
">\n\nChicken and waffles is fucking awesome",
">\n\nChicken and Waffles do not go with watermelon. That’s the issue. This was intentionally a racist joke.",
">\n\nAt this point the motivation was to be entirely racist. Nobody is going to believe anyone they didn’t know.",
">\n\nCan't believe if I'll be forced to not eat any of those on Black History Month.",
">\n\nexactly the shit only whites can be offended about in the name of others. no sane men should deny gods gift of chicken and waffles whatever the occasion.\nit may be a stereotype you recognize for racism, but it also, is fucking delicious.",
">\n\n\nIt's a stupid stereotype that's not even actually racist.\n\nExcept it IS a racist stereotype, has been for centuries, and continues to be so.\nJust because you don't like that it is, doesn't change that fact.\nAdditionally, no one uses the foods of the cultures you presented as a negative facet of their identity...and in fact this is the EXACT argument you see racist people use to say \"it's ok\" to be shitty towards black people.",
">\n\nI'm not explaining something to someone making obviously inflammatory commentary in bad faith. You know the issue isn't with chicken and waffles specifically, as it's been pointed out COUNTLESS times throughout this comment section. It's the inclusion of watermelon, a known negative stereotype.\nYou being ignorant of history isn't anyone's problem, but yours.\nAs for the rest of this tantrum?\nOk, 🤡.\nEdit: Imagine that. Blocking me after making a comment...sorry, throwing a tantrum. Comment:\n\nThe only one doing anything here in bad faith is the one with their silly clown emojis who refuses to support their point and instead prefers to sling mud.\n\nMy reply:\nYou came in here, making wildly racist claims about a topic you're obviously ignorant on, you double down on the racism and ignorance, and when called out and treated with the same respect as you have shown to others...you go into toddler mode.\nNah, I think I'm pretty fucking spot on with my assessment of you.",
">\n\nI'm personally offended that \na. we are eaten\nb. people are offended because we are eaten",
">\n\nSir, you have a license to cluck.",
">\n\nI can understand where they're coming from but as a (former) southerner you should never have to apologize for chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nagreed. if they are good. now bad... then yeah...",
">\n\n... Until it's realized all the cooks are black. \nAh, narrative shift, nothing to see here",
">\n\nTell that to the black student who was upset being served watermelon then.",
">\n\nWould it be ok on the 17th ?",
">\n\nOne of my few bright memories from elementary school were of getting to eat different foods from different places during holidays and what not. I'll never be able to eat another latke again, but, I digest,it seems like a foolhardy thing to get pissy about. It's a lot better than my Norwegian ass serving Lutefisk.",
">\n\nYou can make latkes, it's pretty easy",
">\n\nI’m white and grew in the south, personally I have a hard time understanding how this is wrong. Literally everyone besides probably the vegans moving from California love fried foods, for fucks sake some of the most popular items at the Texas State Fair have been fried candy bars and fried BUTTER. I literally eat fried chicken and waffles a few times a month and that’s because I’m on a diet and am trying to lose weight. When I was a kid when they were in season we literally used to go through at least one watermelon a week and I’m not taking about those small snack size ones. Pro tip if you have a waffle maker; cornbread waffles. Enough said… The only thing they were missing was fried okra which is the only side dish anyone ever needs.\nAlso not every stereotype has to have a negative connotation. I’m Jewish and most of us like stereotypical foods. When I was a kid and went to shul after the service there would usually be a spread with bagels, schmear, sometimes lox, kugel, gefilte fish (absolutely disgusting), and when we were really lucky a cholent.",
">\n\nIt’s the watermelon 🍉 and the chicken 🍗 combination that is offensive. Not the chicken and waffles part. Weird headline.",
">\n\nThey're mad because it should be a weekly menu item!"
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It’s a stereotype that black people like friend chicken. Also they served watermelon. Which is stereotypically associated being enjoyed by blavk people.
It’s sort of like having turkish week and serving shishkabob, indian week and serving curry, greek week serving chicken fries and tzatziki and so on and so forth
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[
"What’s wrong with chicken and waffles?",
">\n\nThe problem is when someone responds to Black History Month by pushing stereotypes.\nOutside of context, nothing would be wrong.",
">\n\nis chicken and waffles a stereotype?\nI'm honestly asking. I've never heard of that.",
">\n\nIt had way less to do with Chicken and Waffles being served, and them serving it with watermelon.\nThey could have served it with any other fruit and it would be a non-issue.",
">\n\nChicken waffles and watermelon are all delicious. As a black person this seems kind of a hyperbolic complaint.\nI get the thought behind it but unless they served it in black face I don’t see the issue.\n😂",
">\n\nThe black students at the middle school took issue with it. That's where the push came from and it was specifically regarding adding watermelon to it.",
">\n\nIf the black kids took this at a dig at them, I should imagine it's not a school where they feel valued most other days either",
">\n\nHonoring Black History month by emphasizing stereotypes is pretty tone deaf.\nShit man, I will fuck up some chicken, waffles and watermelon. Just can't imagine someone thought that was a good idea for the first day of black history.",
">\n\nThis.",
">\n\nFor those asking what the problem is with chicken and waffles -\n\nThey served something different from what was planned for the day, and the meal is attached to stereotypes.\nThey went out of their way to serve a watermelon dessert, which has been confirmed as being an extremely rare item.\nThe company did something similar in 2018, and terminated employees who organized it, indicating there was at least something going on that shouldn't have occurred. [src]\nThey also had an issue in 2011 (I wasn't aware of it until reading this article, only the 2018 issue) with UC California-Irvine.\n\nIf it had already been planned and was a common meal, I don't think there'd have been an issue. But for them to change the planned meal on the first day of Black History Month and to include items that were outside the norm is a really bad look for the company and its employees at that school.\nIt's also telling that this is the third time (that we know of) that this has occurred with the same company.",
">\n\nWere green meals used to subjugate and disparage an entire race like watermelon was?\nWhat about pasta-stuffed pizza, or tacos? Either of those specifically used to disparage an entire race?\nNo? Then none of those examples compare.\nAww, what's wrong? Don't like being called out for using the argument racist people do?\nToo fucking bad.",
">\n\nNot the person you responded to, and I am still learning American history as I go. How did white Americans use watermelons to disparage black Americans?",
">\n\nThis is unacceptable! Under no circumstances should anyone ever apologize for serving chicken and waffles. The only acceptable apology is for not serving more chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nI worked in NYC schools for a while. What they should be apologizing for at most schools is serving a couple frozen processed chicken nuggets on a half-toasted eggo and calling it \"chicken and waffles\".",
">\n\nThat's not chicken and waffles! That's a being poor and just eating whatever you have in the freezer kind of meal.",
">\n\nI mean that's more or less the kind of budget public schools are working with. Not to mention that the people working in these kitchens are paid extremely poorly as well. Like 99% of problems in education in the USA, the solution is \"we need more money\". But hey as long as we can make sure grown men get paid millions of dollars to throw balls around and Jeff Bezos can play astronaut who cares about kids, right?",
">\n\nKeep in mind if you're looking at that and going \"wow that's actually a good pay\" keep in mind this is New York City, one of the most expensive spots in the country to live in. I was a high school special education teacher there for five years (and lived there before with even lower paying jobs for 7-8 years). Even if you're at the upper level of that pay scale you're pretty much putting 50% of your income straight into rent, even if you live in a cheap area.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it’s not easy to live here.",
">\n\nDefinitely isn't. I lived there 2006-2019, ended up landing in Michigan after a brief stint in North Carolina, I'm happy I spent such a large chunk of formative adult years there (I moved there right after college) because as someone who grew up in a small, non-diverse New England rural town it was a huge contrast. These days though when people ask if I miss NYC my answer is \"all the things I miss I can get when I go visit\".",
">\n\nThere's nothing wrong with chicken and waffles on any day.",
">\n\nNo, but there's a huge fucking issue with serving watermelon to black students on the first day of BHM...you know, the actual issue.",
">\n\nWhere do you even get fresh watermelon from in February? It's not in season until the end of summer.",
">\n\nLikely grown in south America somewhere.",
">\n\nThe one I got over the weekend said it came from Chile.",
">\n\nApologize for what. This is stupid.",
">\n\nThey changed the menu to serve Chicken and Waffles and Watermelon in honor of BHM.",
">\n\nTo be fair, per the article...\n\n\"While our menu was not intended as a cultural meal, we acknowledge that the timing was inappropriate, and our team should have been more thoughtful in its service,\" the Aramark statement said.\n\nHowever...\n\nAramark has found itself in similar situations in years past, including an incident in 2011 where UC California-Irvine, an Aramark client, was criticized for serving a \"MLH Holiday Special\" that featured chicken and waffles.\n\nSo, yeah, there's something rotten in Aramark.",
">\n\nI love what you did there.",
">\n\nChicken and waffles is fucking awesome",
">\n\nChicken and Waffles do not go with watermelon. That’s the issue. This was intentionally a racist joke.",
">\n\nAt this point the motivation was to be entirely racist. Nobody is going to believe anyone they didn’t know.",
">\n\nCan't believe if I'll be forced to not eat any of those on Black History Month.",
">\n\nexactly the shit only whites can be offended about in the name of others. no sane men should deny gods gift of chicken and waffles whatever the occasion.\nit may be a stereotype you recognize for racism, but it also, is fucking delicious.",
">\n\n\nIt's a stupid stereotype that's not even actually racist.\n\nExcept it IS a racist stereotype, has been for centuries, and continues to be so.\nJust because you don't like that it is, doesn't change that fact.\nAdditionally, no one uses the foods of the cultures you presented as a negative facet of their identity...and in fact this is the EXACT argument you see racist people use to say \"it's ok\" to be shitty towards black people.",
">\n\nI'm not explaining something to someone making obviously inflammatory commentary in bad faith. You know the issue isn't with chicken and waffles specifically, as it's been pointed out COUNTLESS times throughout this comment section. It's the inclusion of watermelon, a known negative stereotype.\nYou being ignorant of history isn't anyone's problem, but yours.\nAs for the rest of this tantrum?\nOk, 🤡.\nEdit: Imagine that. Blocking me after making a comment...sorry, throwing a tantrum. Comment:\n\nThe only one doing anything here in bad faith is the one with their silly clown emojis who refuses to support their point and instead prefers to sling mud.\n\nMy reply:\nYou came in here, making wildly racist claims about a topic you're obviously ignorant on, you double down on the racism and ignorance, and when called out and treated with the same respect as you have shown to others...you go into toddler mode.\nNah, I think I'm pretty fucking spot on with my assessment of you.",
">\n\nI'm personally offended that \na. we are eaten\nb. people are offended because we are eaten",
">\n\nSir, you have a license to cluck.",
">\n\nI can understand where they're coming from but as a (former) southerner you should never have to apologize for chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nagreed. if they are good. now bad... then yeah...",
">\n\n... Until it's realized all the cooks are black. \nAh, narrative shift, nothing to see here",
">\n\nTell that to the black student who was upset being served watermelon then.",
">\n\nWould it be ok on the 17th ?",
">\n\nOne of my few bright memories from elementary school were of getting to eat different foods from different places during holidays and what not. I'll never be able to eat another latke again, but, I digest,it seems like a foolhardy thing to get pissy about. It's a lot better than my Norwegian ass serving Lutefisk.",
">\n\nYou can make latkes, it's pretty easy",
">\n\nI’m white and grew in the south, personally I have a hard time understanding how this is wrong. Literally everyone besides probably the vegans moving from California love fried foods, for fucks sake some of the most popular items at the Texas State Fair have been fried candy bars and fried BUTTER. I literally eat fried chicken and waffles a few times a month and that’s because I’m on a diet and am trying to lose weight. When I was a kid when they were in season we literally used to go through at least one watermelon a week and I’m not taking about those small snack size ones. Pro tip if you have a waffle maker; cornbread waffles. Enough said… The only thing they were missing was fried okra which is the only side dish anyone ever needs.\nAlso not every stereotype has to have a negative connotation. I’m Jewish and most of us like stereotypical foods. When I was a kid and went to shul after the service there would usually be a spread with bagels, schmear, sometimes lox, kugel, gefilte fish (absolutely disgusting), and when we were really lucky a cholent.",
">\n\nIt’s the watermelon 🍉 and the chicken 🍗 combination that is offensive. Not the chicken and waffles part. Weird headline.",
">\n\nThey're mad because it should be a weekly menu item!",
">\n\nHold the phone. Aren't waffles like European? Explain like i'm five how waffles are racist while I make me a Belgian waffle with lingonberry and whipped cream. Hold the phone again. Nutella and whipped cream. (Don't have any lingonberries handy) Ok, now explain."
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Watermelon is not associated with being enjoyed by black people… everyone likes a watermelon on a summer day.
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[
"What’s wrong with chicken and waffles?",
">\n\nThe problem is when someone responds to Black History Month by pushing stereotypes.\nOutside of context, nothing would be wrong.",
">\n\nis chicken and waffles a stereotype?\nI'm honestly asking. I've never heard of that.",
">\n\nIt had way less to do with Chicken and Waffles being served, and them serving it with watermelon.\nThey could have served it with any other fruit and it would be a non-issue.",
">\n\nChicken waffles and watermelon are all delicious. As a black person this seems kind of a hyperbolic complaint.\nI get the thought behind it but unless they served it in black face I don’t see the issue.\n😂",
">\n\nThe black students at the middle school took issue with it. That's where the push came from and it was specifically regarding adding watermelon to it.",
">\n\nIf the black kids took this at a dig at them, I should imagine it's not a school where they feel valued most other days either",
">\n\nHonoring Black History month by emphasizing stereotypes is pretty tone deaf.\nShit man, I will fuck up some chicken, waffles and watermelon. Just can't imagine someone thought that was a good idea for the first day of black history.",
">\n\nThis.",
">\n\nFor those asking what the problem is with chicken and waffles -\n\nThey served something different from what was planned for the day, and the meal is attached to stereotypes.\nThey went out of their way to serve a watermelon dessert, which has been confirmed as being an extremely rare item.\nThe company did something similar in 2018, and terminated employees who organized it, indicating there was at least something going on that shouldn't have occurred. [src]\nThey also had an issue in 2011 (I wasn't aware of it until reading this article, only the 2018 issue) with UC California-Irvine.\n\nIf it had already been planned and was a common meal, I don't think there'd have been an issue. But for them to change the planned meal on the first day of Black History Month and to include items that were outside the norm is a really bad look for the company and its employees at that school.\nIt's also telling that this is the third time (that we know of) that this has occurred with the same company.",
">\n\nWere green meals used to subjugate and disparage an entire race like watermelon was?\nWhat about pasta-stuffed pizza, or tacos? Either of those specifically used to disparage an entire race?\nNo? Then none of those examples compare.\nAww, what's wrong? Don't like being called out for using the argument racist people do?\nToo fucking bad.",
">\n\nNot the person you responded to, and I am still learning American history as I go. How did white Americans use watermelons to disparage black Americans?",
">\n\nThis is unacceptable! Under no circumstances should anyone ever apologize for serving chicken and waffles. The only acceptable apology is for not serving more chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nI worked in NYC schools for a while. What they should be apologizing for at most schools is serving a couple frozen processed chicken nuggets on a half-toasted eggo and calling it \"chicken and waffles\".",
">\n\nThat's not chicken and waffles! That's a being poor and just eating whatever you have in the freezer kind of meal.",
">\n\nI mean that's more or less the kind of budget public schools are working with. Not to mention that the people working in these kitchens are paid extremely poorly as well. Like 99% of problems in education in the USA, the solution is \"we need more money\". But hey as long as we can make sure grown men get paid millions of dollars to throw balls around and Jeff Bezos can play astronaut who cares about kids, right?",
">\n\nKeep in mind if you're looking at that and going \"wow that's actually a good pay\" keep in mind this is New York City, one of the most expensive spots in the country to live in. I was a high school special education teacher there for five years (and lived there before with even lower paying jobs for 7-8 years). Even if you're at the upper level of that pay scale you're pretty much putting 50% of your income straight into rent, even if you live in a cheap area.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it’s not easy to live here.",
">\n\nDefinitely isn't. I lived there 2006-2019, ended up landing in Michigan after a brief stint in North Carolina, I'm happy I spent such a large chunk of formative adult years there (I moved there right after college) because as someone who grew up in a small, non-diverse New England rural town it was a huge contrast. These days though when people ask if I miss NYC my answer is \"all the things I miss I can get when I go visit\".",
">\n\nThere's nothing wrong with chicken and waffles on any day.",
">\n\nNo, but there's a huge fucking issue with serving watermelon to black students on the first day of BHM...you know, the actual issue.",
">\n\nWhere do you even get fresh watermelon from in February? It's not in season until the end of summer.",
">\n\nLikely grown in south America somewhere.",
">\n\nThe one I got over the weekend said it came from Chile.",
">\n\nApologize for what. This is stupid.",
">\n\nThey changed the menu to serve Chicken and Waffles and Watermelon in honor of BHM.",
">\n\nTo be fair, per the article...\n\n\"While our menu was not intended as a cultural meal, we acknowledge that the timing was inappropriate, and our team should have been more thoughtful in its service,\" the Aramark statement said.\n\nHowever...\n\nAramark has found itself in similar situations in years past, including an incident in 2011 where UC California-Irvine, an Aramark client, was criticized for serving a \"MLH Holiday Special\" that featured chicken and waffles.\n\nSo, yeah, there's something rotten in Aramark.",
">\n\nI love what you did there.",
">\n\nChicken and waffles is fucking awesome",
">\n\nChicken and Waffles do not go with watermelon. That’s the issue. This was intentionally a racist joke.",
">\n\nAt this point the motivation was to be entirely racist. Nobody is going to believe anyone they didn’t know.",
">\n\nCan't believe if I'll be forced to not eat any of those on Black History Month.",
">\n\nexactly the shit only whites can be offended about in the name of others. no sane men should deny gods gift of chicken and waffles whatever the occasion.\nit may be a stereotype you recognize for racism, but it also, is fucking delicious.",
">\n\n\nIt's a stupid stereotype that's not even actually racist.\n\nExcept it IS a racist stereotype, has been for centuries, and continues to be so.\nJust because you don't like that it is, doesn't change that fact.\nAdditionally, no one uses the foods of the cultures you presented as a negative facet of their identity...and in fact this is the EXACT argument you see racist people use to say \"it's ok\" to be shitty towards black people.",
">\n\nI'm not explaining something to someone making obviously inflammatory commentary in bad faith. You know the issue isn't with chicken and waffles specifically, as it's been pointed out COUNTLESS times throughout this comment section. It's the inclusion of watermelon, a known negative stereotype.\nYou being ignorant of history isn't anyone's problem, but yours.\nAs for the rest of this tantrum?\nOk, 🤡.\nEdit: Imagine that. Blocking me after making a comment...sorry, throwing a tantrum. Comment:\n\nThe only one doing anything here in bad faith is the one with their silly clown emojis who refuses to support their point and instead prefers to sling mud.\n\nMy reply:\nYou came in here, making wildly racist claims about a topic you're obviously ignorant on, you double down on the racism and ignorance, and when called out and treated with the same respect as you have shown to others...you go into toddler mode.\nNah, I think I'm pretty fucking spot on with my assessment of you.",
">\n\nI'm personally offended that \na. we are eaten\nb. people are offended because we are eaten",
">\n\nSir, you have a license to cluck.",
">\n\nI can understand where they're coming from but as a (former) southerner you should never have to apologize for chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nagreed. if they are good. now bad... then yeah...",
">\n\n... Until it's realized all the cooks are black. \nAh, narrative shift, nothing to see here",
">\n\nTell that to the black student who was upset being served watermelon then.",
">\n\nWould it be ok on the 17th ?",
">\n\nOne of my few bright memories from elementary school were of getting to eat different foods from different places during holidays and what not. I'll never be able to eat another latke again, but, I digest,it seems like a foolhardy thing to get pissy about. It's a lot better than my Norwegian ass serving Lutefisk.",
">\n\nYou can make latkes, it's pretty easy",
">\n\nI’m white and grew in the south, personally I have a hard time understanding how this is wrong. Literally everyone besides probably the vegans moving from California love fried foods, for fucks sake some of the most popular items at the Texas State Fair have been fried candy bars and fried BUTTER. I literally eat fried chicken and waffles a few times a month and that’s because I’m on a diet and am trying to lose weight. When I was a kid when they were in season we literally used to go through at least one watermelon a week and I’m not taking about those small snack size ones. Pro tip if you have a waffle maker; cornbread waffles. Enough said… The only thing they were missing was fried okra which is the only side dish anyone ever needs.\nAlso not every stereotype has to have a negative connotation. I’m Jewish and most of us like stereotypical foods. When I was a kid and went to shul after the service there would usually be a spread with bagels, schmear, sometimes lox, kugel, gefilte fish (absolutely disgusting), and when we were really lucky a cholent.",
">\n\nIt’s the watermelon 🍉 and the chicken 🍗 combination that is offensive. Not the chicken and waffles part. Weird headline.",
">\n\nThey're mad because it should be a weekly menu item!",
">\n\nHold the phone. Aren't waffles like European? Explain like i'm five how waffles are racist while I make me a Belgian waffle with lingonberry and whipped cream. Hold the phone again. Nutella and whipped cream. (Don't have any lingonberries handy) Ok, now explain.",
">\n\nIt’s a stereotype that black people like friend chicken. Also they served watermelon. Which is stereotypically associated being enjoyed by blavk people.\nIt’s sort of like having turkish week and serving shishkabob, indian week and serving curry, greek week serving chicken fries and tzatziki and so on and so forth"
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How about you google it real quick, just to make sure
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[
"What’s wrong with chicken and waffles?",
">\n\nThe problem is when someone responds to Black History Month by pushing stereotypes.\nOutside of context, nothing would be wrong.",
">\n\nis chicken and waffles a stereotype?\nI'm honestly asking. I've never heard of that.",
">\n\nIt had way less to do with Chicken and Waffles being served, and them serving it with watermelon.\nThey could have served it with any other fruit and it would be a non-issue.",
">\n\nChicken waffles and watermelon are all delicious. As a black person this seems kind of a hyperbolic complaint.\nI get the thought behind it but unless they served it in black face I don’t see the issue.\n😂",
">\n\nThe black students at the middle school took issue with it. That's where the push came from and it was specifically regarding adding watermelon to it.",
">\n\nIf the black kids took this at a dig at them, I should imagine it's not a school where they feel valued most other days either",
">\n\nHonoring Black History month by emphasizing stereotypes is pretty tone deaf.\nShit man, I will fuck up some chicken, waffles and watermelon. Just can't imagine someone thought that was a good idea for the first day of black history.",
">\n\nThis.",
">\n\nFor those asking what the problem is with chicken and waffles -\n\nThey served something different from what was planned for the day, and the meal is attached to stereotypes.\nThey went out of their way to serve a watermelon dessert, which has been confirmed as being an extremely rare item.\nThe company did something similar in 2018, and terminated employees who organized it, indicating there was at least something going on that shouldn't have occurred. [src]\nThey also had an issue in 2011 (I wasn't aware of it until reading this article, only the 2018 issue) with UC California-Irvine.\n\nIf it had already been planned and was a common meal, I don't think there'd have been an issue. But for them to change the planned meal on the first day of Black History Month and to include items that were outside the norm is a really bad look for the company and its employees at that school.\nIt's also telling that this is the third time (that we know of) that this has occurred with the same company.",
">\n\nWere green meals used to subjugate and disparage an entire race like watermelon was?\nWhat about pasta-stuffed pizza, or tacos? Either of those specifically used to disparage an entire race?\nNo? Then none of those examples compare.\nAww, what's wrong? Don't like being called out for using the argument racist people do?\nToo fucking bad.",
">\n\nNot the person you responded to, and I am still learning American history as I go. How did white Americans use watermelons to disparage black Americans?",
">\n\nThis is unacceptable! Under no circumstances should anyone ever apologize for serving chicken and waffles. The only acceptable apology is for not serving more chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nI worked in NYC schools for a while. What they should be apologizing for at most schools is serving a couple frozen processed chicken nuggets on a half-toasted eggo and calling it \"chicken and waffles\".",
">\n\nThat's not chicken and waffles! That's a being poor and just eating whatever you have in the freezer kind of meal.",
">\n\nI mean that's more or less the kind of budget public schools are working with. Not to mention that the people working in these kitchens are paid extremely poorly as well. Like 99% of problems in education in the USA, the solution is \"we need more money\". But hey as long as we can make sure grown men get paid millions of dollars to throw balls around and Jeff Bezos can play astronaut who cares about kids, right?",
">\n\nKeep in mind if you're looking at that and going \"wow that's actually a good pay\" keep in mind this is New York City, one of the most expensive spots in the country to live in. I was a high school special education teacher there for five years (and lived there before with even lower paying jobs for 7-8 years). Even if you're at the upper level of that pay scale you're pretty much putting 50% of your income straight into rent, even if you live in a cheap area.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it’s not easy to live here.",
">\n\nDefinitely isn't. I lived there 2006-2019, ended up landing in Michigan after a brief stint in North Carolina, I'm happy I spent such a large chunk of formative adult years there (I moved there right after college) because as someone who grew up in a small, non-diverse New England rural town it was a huge contrast. These days though when people ask if I miss NYC my answer is \"all the things I miss I can get when I go visit\".",
">\n\nThere's nothing wrong with chicken and waffles on any day.",
">\n\nNo, but there's a huge fucking issue with serving watermelon to black students on the first day of BHM...you know, the actual issue.",
">\n\nWhere do you even get fresh watermelon from in February? It's not in season until the end of summer.",
">\n\nLikely grown in south America somewhere.",
">\n\nThe one I got over the weekend said it came from Chile.",
">\n\nApologize for what. This is stupid.",
">\n\nThey changed the menu to serve Chicken and Waffles and Watermelon in honor of BHM.",
">\n\nTo be fair, per the article...\n\n\"While our menu was not intended as a cultural meal, we acknowledge that the timing was inappropriate, and our team should have been more thoughtful in its service,\" the Aramark statement said.\n\nHowever...\n\nAramark has found itself in similar situations in years past, including an incident in 2011 where UC California-Irvine, an Aramark client, was criticized for serving a \"MLH Holiday Special\" that featured chicken and waffles.\n\nSo, yeah, there's something rotten in Aramark.",
">\n\nI love what you did there.",
">\n\nChicken and waffles is fucking awesome",
">\n\nChicken and Waffles do not go with watermelon. That’s the issue. This was intentionally a racist joke.",
">\n\nAt this point the motivation was to be entirely racist. Nobody is going to believe anyone they didn’t know.",
">\n\nCan't believe if I'll be forced to not eat any of those on Black History Month.",
">\n\nexactly the shit only whites can be offended about in the name of others. no sane men should deny gods gift of chicken and waffles whatever the occasion.\nit may be a stereotype you recognize for racism, but it also, is fucking delicious.",
">\n\n\nIt's a stupid stereotype that's not even actually racist.\n\nExcept it IS a racist stereotype, has been for centuries, and continues to be so.\nJust because you don't like that it is, doesn't change that fact.\nAdditionally, no one uses the foods of the cultures you presented as a negative facet of their identity...and in fact this is the EXACT argument you see racist people use to say \"it's ok\" to be shitty towards black people.",
">\n\nI'm not explaining something to someone making obviously inflammatory commentary in bad faith. You know the issue isn't with chicken and waffles specifically, as it's been pointed out COUNTLESS times throughout this comment section. It's the inclusion of watermelon, a known negative stereotype.\nYou being ignorant of history isn't anyone's problem, but yours.\nAs for the rest of this tantrum?\nOk, 🤡.\nEdit: Imagine that. Blocking me after making a comment...sorry, throwing a tantrum. Comment:\n\nThe only one doing anything here in bad faith is the one with their silly clown emojis who refuses to support their point and instead prefers to sling mud.\n\nMy reply:\nYou came in here, making wildly racist claims about a topic you're obviously ignorant on, you double down on the racism and ignorance, and when called out and treated with the same respect as you have shown to others...you go into toddler mode.\nNah, I think I'm pretty fucking spot on with my assessment of you.",
">\n\nI'm personally offended that \na. we are eaten\nb. people are offended because we are eaten",
">\n\nSir, you have a license to cluck.",
">\n\nI can understand where they're coming from but as a (former) southerner you should never have to apologize for chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nagreed. if they are good. now bad... then yeah...",
">\n\n... Until it's realized all the cooks are black. \nAh, narrative shift, nothing to see here",
">\n\nTell that to the black student who was upset being served watermelon then.",
">\n\nWould it be ok on the 17th ?",
">\n\nOne of my few bright memories from elementary school were of getting to eat different foods from different places during holidays and what not. I'll never be able to eat another latke again, but, I digest,it seems like a foolhardy thing to get pissy about. It's a lot better than my Norwegian ass serving Lutefisk.",
">\n\nYou can make latkes, it's pretty easy",
">\n\nI’m white and grew in the south, personally I have a hard time understanding how this is wrong. Literally everyone besides probably the vegans moving from California love fried foods, for fucks sake some of the most popular items at the Texas State Fair have been fried candy bars and fried BUTTER. I literally eat fried chicken and waffles a few times a month and that’s because I’m on a diet and am trying to lose weight. When I was a kid when they were in season we literally used to go through at least one watermelon a week and I’m not taking about those small snack size ones. Pro tip if you have a waffle maker; cornbread waffles. Enough said… The only thing they were missing was fried okra which is the only side dish anyone ever needs.\nAlso not every stereotype has to have a negative connotation. I’m Jewish and most of us like stereotypical foods. When I was a kid and went to shul after the service there would usually be a spread with bagels, schmear, sometimes lox, kugel, gefilte fish (absolutely disgusting), and when we were really lucky a cholent.",
">\n\nIt’s the watermelon 🍉 and the chicken 🍗 combination that is offensive. Not the chicken and waffles part. Weird headline.",
">\n\nThey're mad because it should be a weekly menu item!",
">\n\nHold the phone. Aren't waffles like European? Explain like i'm five how waffles are racist while I make me a Belgian waffle with lingonberry and whipped cream. Hold the phone again. Nutella and whipped cream. (Don't have any lingonberries handy) Ok, now explain.",
">\n\nIt’s a stereotype that black people like friend chicken. Also they served watermelon. Which is stereotypically associated being enjoyed by blavk people.\nIt’s sort of like having turkish week and serving shishkabob, indian week and serving curry, greek week serving chicken fries and tzatziki and so on and so forth",
">\n\nWatermelon is not associated with being enjoyed by black people… everyone likes a watermelon on a summer day."
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No need to do so, I live in a country where most people are white and everyone likes watermelon anyway.
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[
"What’s wrong with chicken and waffles?",
">\n\nThe problem is when someone responds to Black History Month by pushing stereotypes.\nOutside of context, nothing would be wrong.",
">\n\nis chicken and waffles a stereotype?\nI'm honestly asking. I've never heard of that.",
">\n\nIt had way less to do with Chicken and Waffles being served, and them serving it with watermelon.\nThey could have served it with any other fruit and it would be a non-issue.",
">\n\nChicken waffles and watermelon are all delicious. As a black person this seems kind of a hyperbolic complaint.\nI get the thought behind it but unless they served it in black face I don’t see the issue.\n😂",
">\n\nThe black students at the middle school took issue with it. That's where the push came from and it was specifically regarding adding watermelon to it.",
">\n\nIf the black kids took this at a dig at them, I should imagine it's not a school where they feel valued most other days either",
">\n\nHonoring Black History month by emphasizing stereotypes is pretty tone deaf.\nShit man, I will fuck up some chicken, waffles and watermelon. Just can't imagine someone thought that was a good idea for the first day of black history.",
">\n\nThis.",
">\n\nFor those asking what the problem is with chicken and waffles -\n\nThey served something different from what was planned for the day, and the meal is attached to stereotypes.\nThey went out of their way to serve a watermelon dessert, which has been confirmed as being an extremely rare item.\nThe company did something similar in 2018, and terminated employees who organized it, indicating there was at least something going on that shouldn't have occurred. [src]\nThey also had an issue in 2011 (I wasn't aware of it until reading this article, only the 2018 issue) with UC California-Irvine.\n\nIf it had already been planned and was a common meal, I don't think there'd have been an issue. But for them to change the planned meal on the first day of Black History Month and to include items that were outside the norm is a really bad look for the company and its employees at that school.\nIt's also telling that this is the third time (that we know of) that this has occurred with the same company.",
">\n\nWere green meals used to subjugate and disparage an entire race like watermelon was?\nWhat about pasta-stuffed pizza, or tacos? Either of those specifically used to disparage an entire race?\nNo? Then none of those examples compare.\nAww, what's wrong? Don't like being called out for using the argument racist people do?\nToo fucking bad.",
">\n\nNot the person you responded to, and I am still learning American history as I go. How did white Americans use watermelons to disparage black Americans?",
">\n\nThis is unacceptable! Under no circumstances should anyone ever apologize for serving chicken and waffles. The only acceptable apology is for not serving more chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nI worked in NYC schools for a while. What they should be apologizing for at most schools is serving a couple frozen processed chicken nuggets on a half-toasted eggo and calling it \"chicken and waffles\".",
">\n\nThat's not chicken and waffles! That's a being poor and just eating whatever you have in the freezer kind of meal.",
">\n\nI mean that's more or less the kind of budget public schools are working with. Not to mention that the people working in these kitchens are paid extremely poorly as well. Like 99% of problems in education in the USA, the solution is \"we need more money\". But hey as long as we can make sure grown men get paid millions of dollars to throw balls around and Jeff Bezos can play astronaut who cares about kids, right?",
">\n\nKeep in mind if you're looking at that and going \"wow that's actually a good pay\" keep in mind this is New York City, one of the most expensive spots in the country to live in. I was a high school special education teacher there for five years (and lived there before with even lower paying jobs for 7-8 years). Even if you're at the upper level of that pay scale you're pretty much putting 50% of your income straight into rent, even if you live in a cheap area.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it’s not easy to live here.",
">\n\nDefinitely isn't. I lived there 2006-2019, ended up landing in Michigan after a brief stint in North Carolina, I'm happy I spent such a large chunk of formative adult years there (I moved there right after college) because as someone who grew up in a small, non-diverse New England rural town it was a huge contrast. These days though when people ask if I miss NYC my answer is \"all the things I miss I can get when I go visit\".",
">\n\nThere's nothing wrong with chicken and waffles on any day.",
">\n\nNo, but there's a huge fucking issue with serving watermelon to black students on the first day of BHM...you know, the actual issue.",
">\n\nWhere do you even get fresh watermelon from in February? It's not in season until the end of summer.",
">\n\nLikely grown in south America somewhere.",
">\n\nThe one I got over the weekend said it came from Chile.",
">\n\nApologize for what. This is stupid.",
">\n\nThey changed the menu to serve Chicken and Waffles and Watermelon in honor of BHM.",
">\n\nTo be fair, per the article...\n\n\"While our menu was not intended as a cultural meal, we acknowledge that the timing was inappropriate, and our team should have been more thoughtful in its service,\" the Aramark statement said.\n\nHowever...\n\nAramark has found itself in similar situations in years past, including an incident in 2011 where UC California-Irvine, an Aramark client, was criticized for serving a \"MLH Holiday Special\" that featured chicken and waffles.\n\nSo, yeah, there's something rotten in Aramark.",
">\n\nI love what you did there.",
">\n\nChicken and waffles is fucking awesome",
">\n\nChicken and Waffles do not go with watermelon. That’s the issue. This was intentionally a racist joke.",
">\n\nAt this point the motivation was to be entirely racist. Nobody is going to believe anyone they didn’t know.",
">\n\nCan't believe if I'll be forced to not eat any of those on Black History Month.",
">\n\nexactly the shit only whites can be offended about in the name of others. no sane men should deny gods gift of chicken and waffles whatever the occasion.\nit may be a stereotype you recognize for racism, but it also, is fucking delicious.",
">\n\n\nIt's a stupid stereotype that's not even actually racist.\n\nExcept it IS a racist stereotype, has been for centuries, and continues to be so.\nJust because you don't like that it is, doesn't change that fact.\nAdditionally, no one uses the foods of the cultures you presented as a negative facet of their identity...and in fact this is the EXACT argument you see racist people use to say \"it's ok\" to be shitty towards black people.",
">\n\nI'm not explaining something to someone making obviously inflammatory commentary in bad faith. You know the issue isn't with chicken and waffles specifically, as it's been pointed out COUNTLESS times throughout this comment section. It's the inclusion of watermelon, a known negative stereotype.\nYou being ignorant of history isn't anyone's problem, but yours.\nAs for the rest of this tantrum?\nOk, 🤡.\nEdit: Imagine that. Blocking me after making a comment...sorry, throwing a tantrum. Comment:\n\nThe only one doing anything here in bad faith is the one with their silly clown emojis who refuses to support their point and instead prefers to sling mud.\n\nMy reply:\nYou came in here, making wildly racist claims about a topic you're obviously ignorant on, you double down on the racism and ignorance, and when called out and treated with the same respect as you have shown to others...you go into toddler mode.\nNah, I think I'm pretty fucking spot on with my assessment of you.",
">\n\nI'm personally offended that \na. we are eaten\nb. people are offended because we are eaten",
">\n\nSir, you have a license to cluck.",
">\n\nI can understand where they're coming from but as a (former) southerner you should never have to apologize for chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nagreed. if they are good. now bad... then yeah...",
">\n\n... Until it's realized all the cooks are black. \nAh, narrative shift, nothing to see here",
">\n\nTell that to the black student who was upset being served watermelon then.",
">\n\nWould it be ok on the 17th ?",
">\n\nOne of my few bright memories from elementary school were of getting to eat different foods from different places during holidays and what not. I'll never be able to eat another latke again, but, I digest,it seems like a foolhardy thing to get pissy about. It's a lot better than my Norwegian ass serving Lutefisk.",
">\n\nYou can make latkes, it's pretty easy",
">\n\nI’m white and grew in the south, personally I have a hard time understanding how this is wrong. Literally everyone besides probably the vegans moving from California love fried foods, for fucks sake some of the most popular items at the Texas State Fair have been fried candy bars and fried BUTTER. I literally eat fried chicken and waffles a few times a month and that’s because I’m on a diet and am trying to lose weight. When I was a kid when they were in season we literally used to go through at least one watermelon a week and I’m not taking about those small snack size ones. Pro tip if you have a waffle maker; cornbread waffles. Enough said… The only thing they were missing was fried okra which is the only side dish anyone ever needs.\nAlso not every stereotype has to have a negative connotation. I’m Jewish and most of us like stereotypical foods. When I was a kid and went to shul after the service there would usually be a spread with bagels, schmear, sometimes lox, kugel, gefilte fish (absolutely disgusting), and when we were really lucky a cholent.",
">\n\nIt’s the watermelon 🍉 and the chicken 🍗 combination that is offensive. Not the chicken and waffles part. Weird headline.",
">\n\nThey're mad because it should be a weekly menu item!",
">\n\nHold the phone. Aren't waffles like European? Explain like i'm five how waffles are racist while I make me a Belgian waffle with lingonberry and whipped cream. Hold the phone again. Nutella and whipped cream. (Don't have any lingonberries handy) Ok, now explain.",
">\n\nIt’s a stereotype that black people like friend chicken. Also they served watermelon. Which is stereotypically associated being enjoyed by blavk people.\nIt’s sort of like having turkish week and serving shishkabob, indian week and serving curry, greek week serving chicken fries and tzatziki and so on and so forth",
">\n\nWatermelon is not associated with being enjoyed by black people… everyone likes a watermelon on a summer day.",
">\n\nHow about you google it real quick, just to make sure"
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Absurdly stupid association, made up by people who want to create conflicts for fun.
Everyone likes watermelons, independent on skin colour.
I would be happy for a slice of watermelon for lunch, and it has nothing to do with my race.
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"What’s wrong with chicken and waffles?",
">\n\nThe problem is when someone responds to Black History Month by pushing stereotypes.\nOutside of context, nothing would be wrong.",
">\n\nis chicken and waffles a stereotype?\nI'm honestly asking. I've never heard of that.",
">\n\nIt had way less to do with Chicken and Waffles being served, and them serving it with watermelon.\nThey could have served it with any other fruit and it would be a non-issue.",
">\n\nChicken waffles and watermelon are all delicious. As a black person this seems kind of a hyperbolic complaint.\nI get the thought behind it but unless they served it in black face I don’t see the issue.\n😂",
">\n\nThe black students at the middle school took issue with it. That's where the push came from and it was specifically regarding adding watermelon to it.",
">\n\nIf the black kids took this at a dig at them, I should imagine it's not a school where they feel valued most other days either",
">\n\nHonoring Black History month by emphasizing stereotypes is pretty tone deaf.\nShit man, I will fuck up some chicken, waffles and watermelon. Just can't imagine someone thought that was a good idea for the first day of black history.",
">\n\nThis.",
">\n\nFor those asking what the problem is with chicken and waffles -\n\nThey served something different from what was planned for the day, and the meal is attached to stereotypes.\nThey went out of their way to serve a watermelon dessert, which has been confirmed as being an extremely rare item.\nThe company did something similar in 2018, and terminated employees who organized it, indicating there was at least something going on that shouldn't have occurred. [src]\nThey also had an issue in 2011 (I wasn't aware of it until reading this article, only the 2018 issue) with UC California-Irvine.\n\nIf it had already been planned and was a common meal, I don't think there'd have been an issue. But for them to change the planned meal on the first day of Black History Month and to include items that were outside the norm is a really bad look for the company and its employees at that school.\nIt's also telling that this is the third time (that we know of) that this has occurred with the same company.",
">\n\nWere green meals used to subjugate and disparage an entire race like watermelon was?\nWhat about pasta-stuffed pizza, or tacos? Either of those specifically used to disparage an entire race?\nNo? Then none of those examples compare.\nAww, what's wrong? Don't like being called out for using the argument racist people do?\nToo fucking bad.",
">\n\nNot the person you responded to, and I am still learning American history as I go. How did white Americans use watermelons to disparage black Americans?",
">\n\nThis is unacceptable! Under no circumstances should anyone ever apologize for serving chicken and waffles. The only acceptable apology is for not serving more chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nI worked in NYC schools for a while. What they should be apologizing for at most schools is serving a couple frozen processed chicken nuggets on a half-toasted eggo and calling it \"chicken and waffles\".",
">\n\nThat's not chicken and waffles! That's a being poor and just eating whatever you have in the freezer kind of meal.",
">\n\nI mean that's more or less the kind of budget public schools are working with. Not to mention that the people working in these kitchens are paid extremely poorly as well. Like 99% of problems in education in the USA, the solution is \"we need more money\". But hey as long as we can make sure grown men get paid millions of dollars to throw balls around and Jeff Bezos can play astronaut who cares about kids, right?",
">\n\nKeep in mind if you're looking at that and going \"wow that's actually a good pay\" keep in mind this is New York City, one of the most expensive spots in the country to live in. I was a high school special education teacher there for five years (and lived there before with even lower paying jobs for 7-8 years). Even if you're at the upper level of that pay scale you're pretty much putting 50% of your income straight into rent, even if you live in a cheap area.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it’s not easy to live here.",
">\n\nDefinitely isn't. I lived there 2006-2019, ended up landing in Michigan after a brief stint in North Carolina, I'm happy I spent such a large chunk of formative adult years there (I moved there right after college) because as someone who grew up in a small, non-diverse New England rural town it was a huge contrast. These days though when people ask if I miss NYC my answer is \"all the things I miss I can get when I go visit\".",
">\n\nThere's nothing wrong with chicken and waffles on any day.",
">\n\nNo, but there's a huge fucking issue with serving watermelon to black students on the first day of BHM...you know, the actual issue.",
">\n\nWhere do you even get fresh watermelon from in February? It's not in season until the end of summer.",
">\n\nLikely grown in south America somewhere.",
">\n\nThe one I got over the weekend said it came from Chile.",
">\n\nApologize for what. This is stupid.",
">\n\nThey changed the menu to serve Chicken and Waffles and Watermelon in honor of BHM.",
">\n\nTo be fair, per the article...\n\n\"While our menu was not intended as a cultural meal, we acknowledge that the timing was inappropriate, and our team should have been more thoughtful in its service,\" the Aramark statement said.\n\nHowever...\n\nAramark has found itself in similar situations in years past, including an incident in 2011 where UC California-Irvine, an Aramark client, was criticized for serving a \"MLH Holiday Special\" that featured chicken and waffles.\n\nSo, yeah, there's something rotten in Aramark.",
">\n\nI love what you did there.",
">\n\nChicken and waffles is fucking awesome",
">\n\nChicken and Waffles do not go with watermelon. That’s the issue. This was intentionally a racist joke.",
">\n\nAt this point the motivation was to be entirely racist. Nobody is going to believe anyone they didn’t know.",
">\n\nCan't believe if I'll be forced to not eat any of those on Black History Month.",
">\n\nexactly the shit only whites can be offended about in the name of others. no sane men should deny gods gift of chicken and waffles whatever the occasion.\nit may be a stereotype you recognize for racism, but it also, is fucking delicious.",
">\n\n\nIt's a stupid stereotype that's not even actually racist.\n\nExcept it IS a racist stereotype, has been for centuries, and continues to be so.\nJust because you don't like that it is, doesn't change that fact.\nAdditionally, no one uses the foods of the cultures you presented as a negative facet of their identity...and in fact this is the EXACT argument you see racist people use to say \"it's ok\" to be shitty towards black people.",
">\n\nI'm not explaining something to someone making obviously inflammatory commentary in bad faith. You know the issue isn't with chicken and waffles specifically, as it's been pointed out COUNTLESS times throughout this comment section. It's the inclusion of watermelon, a known negative stereotype.\nYou being ignorant of history isn't anyone's problem, but yours.\nAs for the rest of this tantrum?\nOk, 🤡.\nEdit: Imagine that. Blocking me after making a comment...sorry, throwing a tantrum. Comment:\n\nThe only one doing anything here in bad faith is the one with their silly clown emojis who refuses to support their point and instead prefers to sling mud.\n\nMy reply:\nYou came in here, making wildly racist claims about a topic you're obviously ignorant on, you double down on the racism and ignorance, and when called out and treated with the same respect as you have shown to others...you go into toddler mode.\nNah, I think I'm pretty fucking spot on with my assessment of you.",
">\n\nI'm personally offended that \na. we are eaten\nb. people are offended because we are eaten",
">\n\nSir, you have a license to cluck.",
">\n\nI can understand where they're coming from but as a (former) southerner you should never have to apologize for chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nagreed. if they are good. now bad... then yeah...",
">\n\n... Until it's realized all the cooks are black. \nAh, narrative shift, nothing to see here",
">\n\nTell that to the black student who was upset being served watermelon then.",
">\n\nWould it be ok on the 17th ?",
">\n\nOne of my few bright memories from elementary school were of getting to eat different foods from different places during holidays and what not. I'll never be able to eat another latke again, but, I digest,it seems like a foolhardy thing to get pissy about. It's a lot better than my Norwegian ass serving Lutefisk.",
">\n\nYou can make latkes, it's pretty easy",
">\n\nI’m white and grew in the south, personally I have a hard time understanding how this is wrong. Literally everyone besides probably the vegans moving from California love fried foods, for fucks sake some of the most popular items at the Texas State Fair have been fried candy bars and fried BUTTER. I literally eat fried chicken and waffles a few times a month and that’s because I’m on a diet and am trying to lose weight. When I was a kid when they were in season we literally used to go through at least one watermelon a week and I’m not taking about those small snack size ones. Pro tip if you have a waffle maker; cornbread waffles. Enough said… The only thing they were missing was fried okra which is the only side dish anyone ever needs.\nAlso not every stereotype has to have a negative connotation. I’m Jewish and most of us like stereotypical foods. When I was a kid and went to shul after the service there would usually be a spread with bagels, schmear, sometimes lox, kugel, gefilte fish (absolutely disgusting), and when we were really lucky a cholent.",
">\n\nIt’s the watermelon 🍉 and the chicken 🍗 combination that is offensive. Not the chicken and waffles part. Weird headline.",
">\n\nThey're mad because it should be a weekly menu item!",
">\n\nHold the phone. Aren't waffles like European? Explain like i'm five how waffles are racist while I make me a Belgian waffle with lingonberry and whipped cream. Hold the phone again. Nutella and whipped cream. (Don't have any lingonberries handy) Ok, now explain.",
">\n\nIt’s a stereotype that black people like friend chicken. Also they served watermelon. Which is stereotypically associated being enjoyed by blavk people.\nIt’s sort of like having turkish week and serving shishkabob, indian week and serving curry, greek week serving chicken fries and tzatziki and so on and so forth",
">\n\nWatermelon is not associated with being enjoyed by black people… everyone likes a watermelon on a summer day.",
">\n\nHow about you google it real quick, just to make sure",
">\n\nNo need to do so, I live in a country where most people are white and everyone likes watermelon anyway."
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Sure. Everyone likes it.
But you're literally ignoring that it was a stereotype for so long that we have newspaper cartoons 150 years old making fun of it.
I agree it's a stupid association, but it's a real stereotype: even the Larry David bit is making fun of it.
"It's a stupid stereotype so it doesn't exist" isn't the best take on it.
|
[
"What’s wrong with chicken and waffles?",
">\n\nThe problem is when someone responds to Black History Month by pushing stereotypes.\nOutside of context, nothing would be wrong.",
">\n\nis chicken and waffles a stereotype?\nI'm honestly asking. I've never heard of that.",
">\n\nIt had way less to do with Chicken and Waffles being served, and them serving it with watermelon.\nThey could have served it with any other fruit and it would be a non-issue.",
">\n\nChicken waffles and watermelon are all delicious. As a black person this seems kind of a hyperbolic complaint.\nI get the thought behind it but unless they served it in black face I don’t see the issue.\n😂",
">\n\nThe black students at the middle school took issue with it. That's where the push came from and it was specifically regarding adding watermelon to it.",
">\n\nIf the black kids took this at a dig at them, I should imagine it's not a school where they feel valued most other days either",
">\n\nHonoring Black History month by emphasizing stereotypes is pretty tone deaf.\nShit man, I will fuck up some chicken, waffles and watermelon. Just can't imagine someone thought that was a good idea for the first day of black history.",
">\n\nThis.",
">\n\nFor those asking what the problem is with chicken and waffles -\n\nThey served something different from what was planned for the day, and the meal is attached to stereotypes.\nThey went out of their way to serve a watermelon dessert, which has been confirmed as being an extremely rare item.\nThe company did something similar in 2018, and terminated employees who organized it, indicating there was at least something going on that shouldn't have occurred. [src]\nThey also had an issue in 2011 (I wasn't aware of it until reading this article, only the 2018 issue) with UC California-Irvine.\n\nIf it had already been planned and was a common meal, I don't think there'd have been an issue. But for them to change the planned meal on the first day of Black History Month and to include items that were outside the norm is a really bad look for the company and its employees at that school.\nIt's also telling that this is the third time (that we know of) that this has occurred with the same company.",
">\n\nWere green meals used to subjugate and disparage an entire race like watermelon was?\nWhat about pasta-stuffed pizza, or tacos? Either of those specifically used to disparage an entire race?\nNo? Then none of those examples compare.\nAww, what's wrong? Don't like being called out for using the argument racist people do?\nToo fucking bad.",
">\n\nNot the person you responded to, and I am still learning American history as I go. How did white Americans use watermelons to disparage black Americans?",
">\n\nThis is unacceptable! Under no circumstances should anyone ever apologize for serving chicken and waffles. The only acceptable apology is for not serving more chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nI worked in NYC schools for a while. What they should be apologizing for at most schools is serving a couple frozen processed chicken nuggets on a half-toasted eggo and calling it \"chicken and waffles\".",
">\n\nThat's not chicken and waffles! That's a being poor and just eating whatever you have in the freezer kind of meal.",
">\n\nI mean that's more or less the kind of budget public schools are working with. Not to mention that the people working in these kitchens are paid extremely poorly as well. Like 99% of problems in education in the USA, the solution is \"we need more money\". But hey as long as we can make sure grown men get paid millions of dollars to throw balls around and Jeff Bezos can play astronaut who cares about kids, right?",
">\n\nKeep in mind if you're looking at that and going \"wow that's actually a good pay\" keep in mind this is New York City, one of the most expensive spots in the country to live in. I was a high school special education teacher there for five years (and lived there before with even lower paying jobs for 7-8 years). Even if you're at the upper level of that pay scale you're pretty much putting 50% of your income straight into rent, even if you live in a cheap area.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it’s not easy to live here.",
">\n\nDefinitely isn't. I lived there 2006-2019, ended up landing in Michigan after a brief stint in North Carolina, I'm happy I spent such a large chunk of formative adult years there (I moved there right after college) because as someone who grew up in a small, non-diverse New England rural town it was a huge contrast. These days though when people ask if I miss NYC my answer is \"all the things I miss I can get when I go visit\".",
">\n\nThere's nothing wrong with chicken and waffles on any day.",
">\n\nNo, but there's a huge fucking issue with serving watermelon to black students on the first day of BHM...you know, the actual issue.",
">\n\nWhere do you even get fresh watermelon from in February? It's not in season until the end of summer.",
">\n\nLikely grown in south America somewhere.",
">\n\nThe one I got over the weekend said it came from Chile.",
">\n\nApologize for what. This is stupid.",
">\n\nThey changed the menu to serve Chicken and Waffles and Watermelon in honor of BHM.",
">\n\nTo be fair, per the article...\n\n\"While our menu was not intended as a cultural meal, we acknowledge that the timing was inappropriate, and our team should have been more thoughtful in its service,\" the Aramark statement said.\n\nHowever...\n\nAramark has found itself in similar situations in years past, including an incident in 2011 where UC California-Irvine, an Aramark client, was criticized for serving a \"MLH Holiday Special\" that featured chicken and waffles.\n\nSo, yeah, there's something rotten in Aramark.",
">\n\nI love what you did there.",
">\n\nChicken and waffles is fucking awesome",
">\n\nChicken and Waffles do not go with watermelon. That’s the issue. This was intentionally a racist joke.",
">\n\nAt this point the motivation was to be entirely racist. Nobody is going to believe anyone they didn’t know.",
">\n\nCan't believe if I'll be forced to not eat any of those on Black History Month.",
">\n\nexactly the shit only whites can be offended about in the name of others. no sane men should deny gods gift of chicken and waffles whatever the occasion.\nit may be a stereotype you recognize for racism, but it also, is fucking delicious.",
">\n\n\nIt's a stupid stereotype that's not even actually racist.\n\nExcept it IS a racist stereotype, has been for centuries, and continues to be so.\nJust because you don't like that it is, doesn't change that fact.\nAdditionally, no one uses the foods of the cultures you presented as a negative facet of their identity...and in fact this is the EXACT argument you see racist people use to say \"it's ok\" to be shitty towards black people.",
">\n\nI'm not explaining something to someone making obviously inflammatory commentary in bad faith. You know the issue isn't with chicken and waffles specifically, as it's been pointed out COUNTLESS times throughout this comment section. It's the inclusion of watermelon, a known negative stereotype.\nYou being ignorant of history isn't anyone's problem, but yours.\nAs for the rest of this tantrum?\nOk, 🤡.\nEdit: Imagine that. Blocking me after making a comment...sorry, throwing a tantrum. Comment:\n\nThe only one doing anything here in bad faith is the one with their silly clown emojis who refuses to support their point and instead prefers to sling mud.\n\nMy reply:\nYou came in here, making wildly racist claims about a topic you're obviously ignorant on, you double down on the racism and ignorance, and when called out and treated with the same respect as you have shown to others...you go into toddler mode.\nNah, I think I'm pretty fucking spot on with my assessment of you.",
">\n\nI'm personally offended that \na. we are eaten\nb. people are offended because we are eaten",
">\n\nSir, you have a license to cluck.",
">\n\nI can understand where they're coming from but as a (former) southerner you should never have to apologize for chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nagreed. if they are good. now bad... then yeah...",
">\n\n... Until it's realized all the cooks are black. \nAh, narrative shift, nothing to see here",
">\n\nTell that to the black student who was upset being served watermelon then.",
">\n\nWould it be ok on the 17th ?",
">\n\nOne of my few bright memories from elementary school were of getting to eat different foods from different places during holidays and what not. I'll never be able to eat another latke again, but, I digest,it seems like a foolhardy thing to get pissy about. It's a lot better than my Norwegian ass serving Lutefisk.",
">\n\nYou can make latkes, it's pretty easy",
">\n\nI’m white and grew in the south, personally I have a hard time understanding how this is wrong. Literally everyone besides probably the vegans moving from California love fried foods, for fucks sake some of the most popular items at the Texas State Fair have been fried candy bars and fried BUTTER. I literally eat fried chicken and waffles a few times a month and that’s because I’m on a diet and am trying to lose weight. When I was a kid when they were in season we literally used to go through at least one watermelon a week and I’m not taking about those small snack size ones. Pro tip if you have a waffle maker; cornbread waffles. Enough said… The only thing they were missing was fried okra which is the only side dish anyone ever needs.\nAlso not every stereotype has to have a negative connotation. I’m Jewish and most of us like stereotypical foods. When I was a kid and went to shul after the service there would usually be a spread with bagels, schmear, sometimes lox, kugel, gefilte fish (absolutely disgusting), and when we were really lucky a cholent.",
">\n\nIt’s the watermelon 🍉 and the chicken 🍗 combination that is offensive. Not the chicken and waffles part. Weird headline.",
">\n\nThey're mad because it should be a weekly menu item!",
">\n\nHold the phone. Aren't waffles like European? Explain like i'm five how waffles are racist while I make me a Belgian waffle with lingonberry and whipped cream. Hold the phone again. Nutella and whipped cream. (Don't have any lingonberries handy) Ok, now explain.",
">\n\nIt’s a stereotype that black people like friend chicken. Also they served watermelon. Which is stereotypically associated being enjoyed by blavk people.\nIt’s sort of like having turkish week and serving shishkabob, indian week and serving curry, greek week serving chicken fries and tzatziki and so on and so forth",
">\n\nWatermelon is not associated with being enjoyed by black people… everyone likes a watermelon on a summer day.",
">\n\nHow about you google it real quick, just to make sure",
">\n\nNo need to do so, I live in a country where most people are white and everyone likes watermelon anyway.",
">\n\nAbsurdly stupid association, made up by people who want to create conflicts for fun.\nEveryone likes watermelons, independent on skin colour.\nI would be happy for a slice of watermelon for lunch, and it has nothing to do with my race."
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This made-up “issue” takes attention away from real racism such as violence or doctors thinking black people feel less pain.
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[
"What’s wrong with chicken and waffles?",
">\n\nThe problem is when someone responds to Black History Month by pushing stereotypes.\nOutside of context, nothing would be wrong.",
">\n\nis chicken and waffles a stereotype?\nI'm honestly asking. I've never heard of that.",
">\n\nIt had way less to do with Chicken and Waffles being served, and them serving it with watermelon.\nThey could have served it with any other fruit and it would be a non-issue.",
">\n\nChicken waffles and watermelon are all delicious. As a black person this seems kind of a hyperbolic complaint.\nI get the thought behind it but unless they served it in black face I don’t see the issue.\n😂",
">\n\nThe black students at the middle school took issue with it. That's where the push came from and it was specifically regarding adding watermelon to it.",
">\n\nIf the black kids took this at a dig at them, I should imagine it's not a school where they feel valued most other days either",
">\n\nHonoring Black History month by emphasizing stereotypes is pretty tone deaf.\nShit man, I will fuck up some chicken, waffles and watermelon. Just can't imagine someone thought that was a good idea for the first day of black history.",
">\n\nThis.",
">\n\nFor those asking what the problem is with chicken and waffles -\n\nThey served something different from what was planned for the day, and the meal is attached to stereotypes.\nThey went out of their way to serve a watermelon dessert, which has been confirmed as being an extremely rare item.\nThe company did something similar in 2018, and terminated employees who organized it, indicating there was at least something going on that shouldn't have occurred. [src]\nThey also had an issue in 2011 (I wasn't aware of it until reading this article, only the 2018 issue) with UC California-Irvine.\n\nIf it had already been planned and was a common meal, I don't think there'd have been an issue. But for them to change the planned meal on the first day of Black History Month and to include items that were outside the norm is a really bad look for the company and its employees at that school.\nIt's also telling that this is the third time (that we know of) that this has occurred with the same company.",
">\n\nWere green meals used to subjugate and disparage an entire race like watermelon was?\nWhat about pasta-stuffed pizza, or tacos? Either of those specifically used to disparage an entire race?\nNo? Then none of those examples compare.\nAww, what's wrong? Don't like being called out for using the argument racist people do?\nToo fucking bad.",
">\n\nNot the person you responded to, and I am still learning American history as I go. How did white Americans use watermelons to disparage black Americans?",
">\n\nThis is unacceptable! Under no circumstances should anyone ever apologize for serving chicken and waffles. The only acceptable apology is for not serving more chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nI worked in NYC schools for a while. What they should be apologizing for at most schools is serving a couple frozen processed chicken nuggets on a half-toasted eggo and calling it \"chicken and waffles\".",
">\n\nThat's not chicken and waffles! That's a being poor and just eating whatever you have in the freezer kind of meal.",
">\n\nI mean that's more or less the kind of budget public schools are working with. Not to mention that the people working in these kitchens are paid extremely poorly as well. Like 99% of problems in education in the USA, the solution is \"we need more money\". But hey as long as we can make sure grown men get paid millions of dollars to throw balls around and Jeff Bezos can play astronaut who cares about kids, right?",
">\n\nKeep in mind if you're looking at that and going \"wow that's actually a good pay\" keep in mind this is New York City, one of the most expensive spots in the country to live in. I was a high school special education teacher there for five years (and lived there before with even lower paying jobs for 7-8 years). Even if you're at the upper level of that pay scale you're pretty much putting 50% of your income straight into rent, even if you live in a cheap area.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it’s not easy to live here.",
">\n\nDefinitely isn't. I lived there 2006-2019, ended up landing in Michigan after a brief stint in North Carolina, I'm happy I spent such a large chunk of formative adult years there (I moved there right after college) because as someone who grew up in a small, non-diverse New England rural town it was a huge contrast. These days though when people ask if I miss NYC my answer is \"all the things I miss I can get when I go visit\".",
">\n\nThere's nothing wrong with chicken and waffles on any day.",
">\n\nNo, but there's a huge fucking issue with serving watermelon to black students on the first day of BHM...you know, the actual issue.",
">\n\nWhere do you even get fresh watermelon from in February? It's not in season until the end of summer.",
">\n\nLikely grown in south America somewhere.",
">\n\nThe one I got over the weekend said it came from Chile.",
">\n\nApologize for what. This is stupid.",
">\n\nThey changed the menu to serve Chicken and Waffles and Watermelon in honor of BHM.",
">\n\nTo be fair, per the article...\n\n\"While our menu was not intended as a cultural meal, we acknowledge that the timing was inappropriate, and our team should have been more thoughtful in its service,\" the Aramark statement said.\n\nHowever...\n\nAramark has found itself in similar situations in years past, including an incident in 2011 where UC California-Irvine, an Aramark client, was criticized for serving a \"MLH Holiday Special\" that featured chicken and waffles.\n\nSo, yeah, there's something rotten in Aramark.",
">\n\nI love what you did there.",
">\n\nChicken and waffles is fucking awesome",
">\n\nChicken and Waffles do not go with watermelon. That’s the issue. This was intentionally a racist joke.",
">\n\nAt this point the motivation was to be entirely racist. Nobody is going to believe anyone they didn’t know.",
">\n\nCan't believe if I'll be forced to not eat any of those on Black History Month.",
">\n\nexactly the shit only whites can be offended about in the name of others. no sane men should deny gods gift of chicken and waffles whatever the occasion.\nit may be a stereotype you recognize for racism, but it also, is fucking delicious.",
">\n\n\nIt's a stupid stereotype that's not even actually racist.\n\nExcept it IS a racist stereotype, has been for centuries, and continues to be so.\nJust because you don't like that it is, doesn't change that fact.\nAdditionally, no one uses the foods of the cultures you presented as a negative facet of their identity...and in fact this is the EXACT argument you see racist people use to say \"it's ok\" to be shitty towards black people.",
">\n\nI'm not explaining something to someone making obviously inflammatory commentary in bad faith. You know the issue isn't with chicken and waffles specifically, as it's been pointed out COUNTLESS times throughout this comment section. It's the inclusion of watermelon, a known negative stereotype.\nYou being ignorant of history isn't anyone's problem, but yours.\nAs for the rest of this tantrum?\nOk, 🤡.\nEdit: Imagine that. Blocking me after making a comment...sorry, throwing a tantrum. Comment:\n\nThe only one doing anything here in bad faith is the one with their silly clown emojis who refuses to support their point and instead prefers to sling mud.\n\nMy reply:\nYou came in here, making wildly racist claims about a topic you're obviously ignorant on, you double down on the racism and ignorance, and when called out and treated with the same respect as you have shown to others...you go into toddler mode.\nNah, I think I'm pretty fucking spot on with my assessment of you.",
">\n\nI'm personally offended that \na. we are eaten\nb. people are offended because we are eaten",
">\n\nSir, you have a license to cluck.",
">\n\nI can understand where they're coming from but as a (former) southerner you should never have to apologize for chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nagreed. if they are good. now bad... then yeah...",
">\n\n... Until it's realized all the cooks are black. \nAh, narrative shift, nothing to see here",
">\n\nTell that to the black student who was upset being served watermelon then.",
">\n\nWould it be ok on the 17th ?",
">\n\nOne of my few bright memories from elementary school were of getting to eat different foods from different places during holidays and what not. I'll never be able to eat another latke again, but, I digest,it seems like a foolhardy thing to get pissy about. It's a lot better than my Norwegian ass serving Lutefisk.",
">\n\nYou can make latkes, it's pretty easy",
">\n\nI’m white and grew in the south, personally I have a hard time understanding how this is wrong. Literally everyone besides probably the vegans moving from California love fried foods, for fucks sake some of the most popular items at the Texas State Fair have been fried candy bars and fried BUTTER. I literally eat fried chicken and waffles a few times a month and that’s because I’m on a diet and am trying to lose weight. When I was a kid when they were in season we literally used to go through at least one watermelon a week and I’m not taking about those small snack size ones. Pro tip if you have a waffle maker; cornbread waffles. Enough said… The only thing they were missing was fried okra which is the only side dish anyone ever needs.\nAlso not every stereotype has to have a negative connotation. I’m Jewish and most of us like stereotypical foods. When I was a kid and went to shul after the service there would usually be a spread with bagels, schmear, sometimes lox, kugel, gefilte fish (absolutely disgusting), and when we were really lucky a cholent.",
">\n\nIt’s the watermelon 🍉 and the chicken 🍗 combination that is offensive. Not the chicken and waffles part. Weird headline.",
">\n\nThey're mad because it should be a weekly menu item!",
">\n\nHold the phone. Aren't waffles like European? Explain like i'm five how waffles are racist while I make me a Belgian waffle with lingonberry and whipped cream. Hold the phone again. Nutella and whipped cream. (Don't have any lingonberries handy) Ok, now explain.",
">\n\nIt’s a stereotype that black people like friend chicken. Also they served watermelon. Which is stereotypically associated being enjoyed by blavk people.\nIt’s sort of like having turkish week and serving shishkabob, indian week and serving curry, greek week serving chicken fries and tzatziki and so on and so forth",
">\n\nWatermelon is not associated with being enjoyed by black people… everyone likes a watermelon on a summer day.",
">\n\nHow about you google it real quick, just to make sure",
">\n\nNo need to do so, I live in a country where most people are white and everyone likes watermelon anyway.",
">\n\nAbsurdly stupid association, made up by people who want to create conflicts for fun.\nEveryone likes watermelons, independent on skin colour.\nI would be happy for a slice of watermelon for lunch, and it has nothing to do with my race.",
">\n\nSure. Everyone likes it.\nBut you're literally ignoring that it was a stereotype for so long that we have newspaper cartoons 150 years old making fun of it.\nI agree it's a stupid association, but it's a real stereotype: even the Larry David bit is making fun of it.\n\"It's a stupid stereotype so it doesn't exist\" isn't the best take on it."
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I don't think it was made up so much as just tone deaf.
Everyone likes chicken and waffles.
Maybe not doing it for a special Black history event seems like a reasonable compromise.
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[
"What’s wrong with chicken and waffles?",
">\n\nThe problem is when someone responds to Black History Month by pushing stereotypes.\nOutside of context, nothing would be wrong.",
">\n\nis chicken and waffles a stereotype?\nI'm honestly asking. I've never heard of that.",
">\n\nIt had way less to do with Chicken and Waffles being served, and them serving it with watermelon.\nThey could have served it with any other fruit and it would be a non-issue.",
">\n\nChicken waffles and watermelon are all delicious. As a black person this seems kind of a hyperbolic complaint.\nI get the thought behind it but unless they served it in black face I don’t see the issue.\n😂",
">\n\nThe black students at the middle school took issue with it. That's where the push came from and it was specifically regarding adding watermelon to it.",
">\n\nIf the black kids took this at a dig at them, I should imagine it's not a school where they feel valued most other days either",
">\n\nHonoring Black History month by emphasizing stereotypes is pretty tone deaf.\nShit man, I will fuck up some chicken, waffles and watermelon. Just can't imagine someone thought that was a good idea for the first day of black history.",
">\n\nThis.",
">\n\nFor those asking what the problem is with chicken and waffles -\n\nThey served something different from what was planned for the day, and the meal is attached to stereotypes.\nThey went out of their way to serve a watermelon dessert, which has been confirmed as being an extremely rare item.\nThe company did something similar in 2018, and terminated employees who organized it, indicating there was at least something going on that shouldn't have occurred. [src]\nThey also had an issue in 2011 (I wasn't aware of it until reading this article, only the 2018 issue) with UC California-Irvine.\n\nIf it had already been planned and was a common meal, I don't think there'd have been an issue. But for them to change the planned meal on the first day of Black History Month and to include items that were outside the norm is a really bad look for the company and its employees at that school.\nIt's also telling that this is the third time (that we know of) that this has occurred with the same company.",
">\n\nWere green meals used to subjugate and disparage an entire race like watermelon was?\nWhat about pasta-stuffed pizza, or tacos? Either of those specifically used to disparage an entire race?\nNo? Then none of those examples compare.\nAww, what's wrong? Don't like being called out for using the argument racist people do?\nToo fucking bad.",
">\n\nNot the person you responded to, and I am still learning American history as I go. How did white Americans use watermelons to disparage black Americans?",
">\n\nThis is unacceptable! Under no circumstances should anyone ever apologize for serving chicken and waffles. The only acceptable apology is for not serving more chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nI worked in NYC schools for a while. What they should be apologizing for at most schools is serving a couple frozen processed chicken nuggets on a half-toasted eggo and calling it \"chicken and waffles\".",
">\n\nThat's not chicken and waffles! That's a being poor and just eating whatever you have in the freezer kind of meal.",
">\n\nI mean that's more or less the kind of budget public schools are working with. Not to mention that the people working in these kitchens are paid extremely poorly as well. Like 99% of problems in education in the USA, the solution is \"we need more money\". But hey as long as we can make sure grown men get paid millions of dollars to throw balls around and Jeff Bezos can play astronaut who cares about kids, right?",
">\n\nKeep in mind if you're looking at that and going \"wow that's actually a good pay\" keep in mind this is New York City, one of the most expensive spots in the country to live in. I was a high school special education teacher there for five years (and lived there before with even lower paying jobs for 7-8 years). Even if you're at the upper level of that pay scale you're pretty much putting 50% of your income straight into rent, even if you live in a cheap area.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it’s not easy to live here.",
">\n\nDefinitely isn't. I lived there 2006-2019, ended up landing in Michigan after a brief stint in North Carolina, I'm happy I spent such a large chunk of formative adult years there (I moved there right after college) because as someone who grew up in a small, non-diverse New England rural town it was a huge contrast. These days though when people ask if I miss NYC my answer is \"all the things I miss I can get when I go visit\".",
">\n\nThere's nothing wrong with chicken and waffles on any day.",
">\n\nNo, but there's a huge fucking issue with serving watermelon to black students on the first day of BHM...you know, the actual issue.",
">\n\nWhere do you even get fresh watermelon from in February? It's not in season until the end of summer.",
">\n\nLikely grown in south America somewhere.",
">\n\nThe one I got over the weekend said it came from Chile.",
">\n\nApologize for what. This is stupid.",
">\n\nThey changed the menu to serve Chicken and Waffles and Watermelon in honor of BHM.",
">\n\nTo be fair, per the article...\n\n\"While our menu was not intended as a cultural meal, we acknowledge that the timing was inappropriate, and our team should have been more thoughtful in its service,\" the Aramark statement said.\n\nHowever...\n\nAramark has found itself in similar situations in years past, including an incident in 2011 where UC California-Irvine, an Aramark client, was criticized for serving a \"MLH Holiday Special\" that featured chicken and waffles.\n\nSo, yeah, there's something rotten in Aramark.",
">\n\nI love what you did there.",
">\n\nChicken and waffles is fucking awesome",
">\n\nChicken and Waffles do not go with watermelon. That’s the issue. This was intentionally a racist joke.",
">\n\nAt this point the motivation was to be entirely racist. Nobody is going to believe anyone they didn’t know.",
">\n\nCan't believe if I'll be forced to not eat any of those on Black History Month.",
">\n\nexactly the shit only whites can be offended about in the name of others. no sane men should deny gods gift of chicken and waffles whatever the occasion.\nit may be a stereotype you recognize for racism, but it also, is fucking delicious.",
">\n\n\nIt's a stupid stereotype that's not even actually racist.\n\nExcept it IS a racist stereotype, has been for centuries, and continues to be so.\nJust because you don't like that it is, doesn't change that fact.\nAdditionally, no one uses the foods of the cultures you presented as a negative facet of their identity...and in fact this is the EXACT argument you see racist people use to say \"it's ok\" to be shitty towards black people.",
">\n\nI'm not explaining something to someone making obviously inflammatory commentary in bad faith. You know the issue isn't with chicken and waffles specifically, as it's been pointed out COUNTLESS times throughout this comment section. It's the inclusion of watermelon, a known negative stereotype.\nYou being ignorant of history isn't anyone's problem, but yours.\nAs for the rest of this tantrum?\nOk, 🤡.\nEdit: Imagine that. Blocking me after making a comment...sorry, throwing a tantrum. Comment:\n\nThe only one doing anything here in bad faith is the one with their silly clown emojis who refuses to support their point and instead prefers to sling mud.\n\nMy reply:\nYou came in here, making wildly racist claims about a topic you're obviously ignorant on, you double down on the racism and ignorance, and when called out and treated with the same respect as you have shown to others...you go into toddler mode.\nNah, I think I'm pretty fucking spot on with my assessment of you.",
">\n\nI'm personally offended that \na. we are eaten\nb. people are offended because we are eaten",
">\n\nSir, you have a license to cluck.",
">\n\nI can understand where they're coming from but as a (former) southerner you should never have to apologize for chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nagreed. if they are good. now bad... then yeah...",
">\n\n... Until it's realized all the cooks are black. \nAh, narrative shift, nothing to see here",
">\n\nTell that to the black student who was upset being served watermelon then.",
">\n\nWould it be ok on the 17th ?",
">\n\nOne of my few bright memories from elementary school were of getting to eat different foods from different places during holidays and what not. I'll never be able to eat another latke again, but, I digest,it seems like a foolhardy thing to get pissy about. It's a lot better than my Norwegian ass serving Lutefisk.",
">\n\nYou can make latkes, it's pretty easy",
">\n\nI’m white and grew in the south, personally I have a hard time understanding how this is wrong. Literally everyone besides probably the vegans moving from California love fried foods, for fucks sake some of the most popular items at the Texas State Fair have been fried candy bars and fried BUTTER. I literally eat fried chicken and waffles a few times a month and that’s because I’m on a diet and am trying to lose weight. When I was a kid when they were in season we literally used to go through at least one watermelon a week and I’m not taking about those small snack size ones. Pro tip if you have a waffle maker; cornbread waffles. Enough said… The only thing they were missing was fried okra which is the only side dish anyone ever needs.\nAlso not every stereotype has to have a negative connotation. I’m Jewish and most of us like stereotypical foods. When I was a kid and went to shul after the service there would usually be a spread with bagels, schmear, sometimes lox, kugel, gefilte fish (absolutely disgusting), and when we were really lucky a cholent.",
">\n\nIt’s the watermelon 🍉 and the chicken 🍗 combination that is offensive. Not the chicken and waffles part. Weird headline.",
">\n\nThey're mad because it should be a weekly menu item!",
">\n\nHold the phone. Aren't waffles like European? Explain like i'm five how waffles are racist while I make me a Belgian waffle with lingonberry and whipped cream. Hold the phone again. Nutella and whipped cream. (Don't have any lingonberries handy) Ok, now explain.",
">\n\nIt’s a stereotype that black people like friend chicken. Also they served watermelon. Which is stereotypically associated being enjoyed by blavk people.\nIt’s sort of like having turkish week and serving shishkabob, indian week and serving curry, greek week serving chicken fries and tzatziki and so on and so forth",
">\n\nWatermelon is not associated with being enjoyed by black people… everyone likes a watermelon on a summer day.",
">\n\nHow about you google it real quick, just to make sure",
">\n\nNo need to do so, I live in a country where most people are white and everyone likes watermelon anyway.",
">\n\nAbsurdly stupid association, made up by people who want to create conflicts for fun.\nEveryone likes watermelons, independent on skin colour.\nI would be happy for a slice of watermelon for lunch, and it has nothing to do with my race.",
">\n\nSure. Everyone likes it.\nBut you're literally ignoring that it was a stereotype for so long that we have newspaper cartoons 150 years old making fun of it.\nI agree it's a stupid association, but it's a real stereotype: even the Larry David bit is making fun of it.\n\"It's a stupid stereotype so it doesn't exist\" isn't the best take on it.",
">\n\nThis made-up “issue” takes attention away from real racism such as violence or doctors thinking black people feel less pain."
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Only offensive if they were shitty (which they probably were)
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[
"What’s wrong with chicken and waffles?",
">\n\nThe problem is when someone responds to Black History Month by pushing stereotypes.\nOutside of context, nothing would be wrong.",
">\n\nis chicken and waffles a stereotype?\nI'm honestly asking. I've never heard of that.",
">\n\nIt had way less to do with Chicken and Waffles being served, and them serving it with watermelon.\nThey could have served it with any other fruit and it would be a non-issue.",
">\n\nChicken waffles and watermelon are all delicious. As a black person this seems kind of a hyperbolic complaint.\nI get the thought behind it but unless they served it in black face I don’t see the issue.\n😂",
">\n\nThe black students at the middle school took issue with it. That's where the push came from and it was specifically regarding adding watermelon to it.",
">\n\nIf the black kids took this at a dig at them, I should imagine it's not a school where they feel valued most other days either",
">\n\nHonoring Black History month by emphasizing stereotypes is pretty tone deaf.\nShit man, I will fuck up some chicken, waffles and watermelon. Just can't imagine someone thought that was a good idea for the first day of black history.",
">\n\nThis.",
">\n\nFor those asking what the problem is with chicken and waffles -\n\nThey served something different from what was planned for the day, and the meal is attached to stereotypes.\nThey went out of their way to serve a watermelon dessert, which has been confirmed as being an extremely rare item.\nThe company did something similar in 2018, and terminated employees who organized it, indicating there was at least something going on that shouldn't have occurred. [src]\nThey also had an issue in 2011 (I wasn't aware of it until reading this article, only the 2018 issue) with UC California-Irvine.\n\nIf it had already been planned and was a common meal, I don't think there'd have been an issue. But for them to change the planned meal on the first day of Black History Month and to include items that were outside the norm is a really bad look for the company and its employees at that school.\nIt's also telling that this is the third time (that we know of) that this has occurred with the same company.",
">\n\nWere green meals used to subjugate and disparage an entire race like watermelon was?\nWhat about pasta-stuffed pizza, or tacos? Either of those specifically used to disparage an entire race?\nNo? Then none of those examples compare.\nAww, what's wrong? Don't like being called out for using the argument racist people do?\nToo fucking bad.",
">\n\nNot the person you responded to, and I am still learning American history as I go. How did white Americans use watermelons to disparage black Americans?",
">\n\nThis is unacceptable! Under no circumstances should anyone ever apologize for serving chicken and waffles. The only acceptable apology is for not serving more chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nI worked in NYC schools for a while. What they should be apologizing for at most schools is serving a couple frozen processed chicken nuggets on a half-toasted eggo and calling it \"chicken and waffles\".",
">\n\nThat's not chicken and waffles! That's a being poor and just eating whatever you have in the freezer kind of meal.",
">\n\nI mean that's more or less the kind of budget public schools are working with. Not to mention that the people working in these kitchens are paid extremely poorly as well. Like 99% of problems in education in the USA, the solution is \"we need more money\". But hey as long as we can make sure grown men get paid millions of dollars to throw balls around and Jeff Bezos can play astronaut who cares about kids, right?",
">\n\nKeep in mind if you're looking at that and going \"wow that's actually a good pay\" keep in mind this is New York City, one of the most expensive spots in the country to live in. I was a high school special education teacher there for five years (and lived there before with even lower paying jobs for 7-8 years). Even if you're at the upper level of that pay scale you're pretty much putting 50% of your income straight into rent, even if you live in a cheap area.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it’s not easy to live here.",
">\n\nDefinitely isn't. I lived there 2006-2019, ended up landing in Michigan after a brief stint in North Carolina, I'm happy I spent such a large chunk of formative adult years there (I moved there right after college) because as someone who grew up in a small, non-diverse New England rural town it was a huge contrast. These days though when people ask if I miss NYC my answer is \"all the things I miss I can get when I go visit\".",
">\n\nThere's nothing wrong with chicken and waffles on any day.",
">\n\nNo, but there's a huge fucking issue with serving watermelon to black students on the first day of BHM...you know, the actual issue.",
">\n\nWhere do you even get fresh watermelon from in February? It's not in season until the end of summer.",
">\n\nLikely grown in south America somewhere.",
">\n\nThe one I got over the weekend said it came from Chile.",
">\n\nApologize for what. This is stupid.",
">\n\nThey changed the menu to serve Chicken and Waffles and Watermelon in honor of BHM.",
">\n\nTo be fair, per the article...\n\n\"While our menu was not intended as a cultural meal, we acknowledge that the timing was inappropriate, and our team should have been more thoughtful in its service,\" the Aramark statement said.\n\nHowever...\n\nAramark has found itself in similar situations in years past, including an incident in 2011 where UC California-Irvine, an Aramark client, was criticized for serving a \"MLH Holiday Special\" that featured chicken and waffles.\n\nSo, yeah, there's something rotten in Aramark.",
">\n\nI love what you did there.",
">\n\nChicken and waffles is fucking awesome",
">\n\nChicken and Waffles do not go with watermelon. That’s the issue. This was intentionally a racist joke.",
">\n\nAt this point the motivation was to be entirely racist. Nobody is going to believe anyone they didn’t know.",
">\n\nCan't believe if I'll be forced to not eat any of those on Black History Month.",
">\n\nexactly the shit only whites can be offended about in the name of others. no sane men should deny gods gift of chicken and waffles whatever the occasion.\nit may be a stereotype you recognize for racism, but it also, is fucking delicious.",
">\n\n\nIt's a stupid stereotype that's not even actually racist.\n\nExcept it IS a racist stereotype, has been for centuries, and continues to be so.\nJust because you don't like that it is, doesn't change that fact.\nAdditionally, no one uses the foods of the cultures you presented as a negative facet of their identity...and in fact this is the EXACT argument you see racist people use to say \"it's ok\" to be shitty towards black people.",
">\n\nI'm not explaining something to someone making obviously inflammatory commentary in bad faith. You know the issue isn't with chicken and waffles specifically, as it's been pointed out COUNTLESS times throughout this comment section. It's the inclusion of watermelon, a known negative stereotype.\nYou being ignorant of history isn't anyone's problem, but yours.\nAs for the rest of this tantrum?\nOk, 🤡.\nEdit: Imagine that. Blocking me after making a comment...sorry, throwing a tantrum. Comment:\n\nThe only one doing anything here in bad faith is the one with their silly clown emojis who refuses to support their point and instead prefers to sling mud.\n\nMy reply:\nYou came in here, making wildly racist claims about a topic you're obviously ignorant on, you double down on the racism and ignorance, and when called out and treated with the same respect as you have shown to others...you go into toddler mode.\nNah, I think I'm pretty fucking spot on with my assessment of you.",
">\n\nI'm personally offended that \na. we are eaten\nb. people are offended because we are eaten",
">\n\nSir, you have a license to cluck.",
">\n\nI can understand where they're coming from but as a (former) southerner you should never have to apologize for chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nagreed. if they are good. now bad... then yeah...",
">\n\n... Until it's realized all the cooks are black. \nAh, narrative shift, nothing to see here",
">\n\nTell that to the black student who was upset being served watermelon then.",
">\n\nWould it be ok on the 17th ?",
">\n\nOne of my few bright memories from elementary school were of getting to eat different foods from different places during holidays and what not. I'll never be able to eat another latke again, but, I digest,it seems like a foolhardy thing to get pissy about. It's a lot better than my Norwegian ass serving Lutefisk.",
">\n\nYou can make latkes, it's pretty easy",
">\n\nI’m white and grew in the south, personally I have a hard time understanding how this is wrong. Literally everyone besides probably the vegans moving from California love fried foods, for fucks sake some of the most popular items at the Texas State Fair have been fried candy bars and fried BUTTER. I literally eat fried chicken and waffles a few times a month and that’s because I’m on a diet and am trying to lose weight. When I was a kid when they were in season we literally used to go through at least one watermelon a week and I’m not taking about those small snack size ones. Pro tip if you have a waffle maker; cornbread waffles. Enough said… The only thing they were missing was fried okra which is the only side dish anyone ever needs.\nAlso not every stereotype has to have a negative connotation. I’m Jewish and most of us like stereotypical foods. When I was a kid and went to shul after the service there would usually be a spread with bagels, schmear, sometimes lox, kugel, gefilte fish (absolutely disgusting), and when we were really lucky a cholent.",
">\n\nIt’s the watermelon 🍉 and the chicken 🍗 combination that is offensive. Not the chicken and waffles part. Weird headline.",
">\n\nThey're mad because it should be a weekly menu item!",
">\n\nHold the phone. Aren't waffles like European? Explain like i'm five how waffles are racist while I make me a Belgian waffle with lingonberry and whipped cream. Hold the phone again. Nutella and whipped cream. (Don't have any lingonberries handy) Ok, now explain.",
">\n\nIt’s a stereotype that black people like friend chicken. Also they served watermelon. Which is stereotypically associated being enjoyed by blavk people.\nIt’s sort of like having turkish week and serving shishkabob, indian week and serving curry, greek week serving chicken fries and tzatziki and so on and so forth",
">\n\nWatermelon is not associated with being enjoyed by black people… everyone likes a watermelon on a summer day.",
">\n\nHow about you google it real quick, just to make sure",
">\n\nNo need to do so, I live in a country where most people are white and everyone likes watermelon anyway.",
">\n\nAbsurdly stupid association, made up by people who want to create conflicts for fun.\nEveryone likes watermelons, independent on skin colour.\nI would be happy for a slice of watermelon for lunch, and it has nothing to do with my race.",
">\n\nSure. Everyone likes it.\nBut you're literally ignoring that it was a stereotype for so long that we have newspaper cartoons 150 years old making fun of it.\nI agree it's a stupid association, but it's a real stereotype: even the Larry David bit is making fun of it.\n\"It's a stupid stereotype so it doesn't exist\" isn't the best take on it.",
">\n\nThis made-up “issue” takes attention away from real racism such as violence or doctors thinking black people feel less pain.",
">\n\nI don't think it was made up so much as just tone deaf.\nEveryone likes chicken and waffles.\nMaybe not doing it for a special Black history event seems like a reasonable compromise."
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Isn't this an example of being racially sensitive (the good type of steriotype), as opposed to insensitive (the bad type)? That's a good thing!
It's like serving a man a steak on the first date. You're being sensitive to their gender by getting a positive steriotype right
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[
"What’s wrong with chicken and waffles?",
">\n\nThe problem is when someone responds to Black History Month by pushing stereotypes.\nOutside of context, nothing would be wrong.",
">\n\nis chicken and waffles a stereotype?\nI'm honestly asking. I've never heard of that.",
">\n\nIt had way less to do with Chicken and Waffles being served, and them serving it with watermelon.\nThey could have served it with any other fruit and it would be a non-issue.",
">\n\nChicken waffles and watermelon are all delicious. As a black person this seems kind of a hyperbolic complaint.\nI get the thought behind it but unless they served it in black face I don’t see the issue.\n😂",
">\n\nThe black students at the middle school took issue with it. That's where the push came from and it was specifically regarding adding watermelon to it.",
">\n\nIf the black kids took this at a dig at them, I should imagine it's not a school where they feel valued most other days either",
">\n\nHonoring Black History month by emphasizing stereotypes is pretty tone deaf.\nShit man, I will fuck up some chicken, waffles and watermelon. Just can't imagine someone thought that was a good idea for the first day of black history.",
">\n\nThis.",
">\n\nFor those asking what the problem is with chicken and waffles -\n\nThey served something different from what was planned for the day, and the meal is attached to stereotypes.\nThey went out of their way to serve a watermelon dessert, which has been confirmed as being an extremely rare item.\nThe company did something similar in 2018, and terminated employees who organized it, indicating there was at least something going on that shouldn't have occurred. [src]\nThey also had an issue in 2011 (I wasn't aware of it until reading this article, only the 2018 issue) with UC California-Irvine.\n\nIf it had already been planned and was a common meal, I don't think there'd have been an issue. But for them to change the planned meal on the first day of Black History Month and to include items that were outside the norm is a really bad look for the company and its employees at that school.\nIt's also telling that this is the third time (that we know of) that this has occurred with the same company.",
">\n\nWere green meals used to subjugate and disparage an entire race like watermelon was?\nWhat about pasta-stuffed pizza, or tacos? Either of those specifically used to disparage an entire race?\nNo? Then none of those examples compare.\nAww, what's wrong? Don't like being called out for using the argument racist people do?\nToo fucking bad.",
">\n\nNot the person you responded to, and I am still learning American history as I go. How did white Americans use watermelons to disparage black Americans?",
">\n\nThis is unacceptable! Under no circumstances should anyone ever apologize for serving chicken and waffles. The only acceptable apology is for not serving more chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nI worked in NYC schools for a while. What they should be apologizing for at most schools is serving a couple frozen processed chicken nuggets on a half-toasted eggo and calling it \"chicken and waffles\".",
">\n\nThat's not chicken and waffles! That's a being poor and just eating whatever you have in the freezer kind of meal.",
">\n\nI mean that's more or less the kind of budget public schools are working with. Not to mention that the people working in these kitchens are paid extremely poorly as well. Like 99% of problems in education in the USA, the solution is \"we need more money\". But hey as long as we can make sure grown men get paid millions of dollars to throw balls around and Jeff Bezos can play astronaut who cares about kids, right?",
">\n\nKeep in mind if you're looking at that and going \"wow that's actually a good pay\" keep in mind this is New York City, one of the most expensive spots in the country to live in. I was a high school special education teacher there for five years (and lived there before with even lower paying jobs for 7-8 years). Even if you're at the upper level of that pay scale you're pretty much putting 50% of your income straight into rent, even if you live in a cheap area.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it’s not easy to live here.",
">\n\nDefinitely isn't. I lived there 2006-2019, ended up landing in Michigan after a brief stint in North Carolina, I'm happy I spent such a large chunk of formative adult years there (I moved there right after college) because as someone who grew up in a small, non-diverse New England rural town it was a huge contrast. These days though when people ask if I miss NYC my answer is \"all the things I miss I can get when I go visit\".",
">\n\nThere's nothing wrong with chicken and waffles on any day.",
">\n\nNo, but there's a huge fucking issue with serving watermelon to black students on the first day of BHM...you know, the actual issue.",
">\n\nWhere do you even get fresh watermelon from in February? It's not in season until the end of summer.",
">\n\nLikely grown in south America somewhere.",
">\n\nThe one I got over the weekend said it came from Chile.",
">\n\nApologize for what. This is stupid.",
">\n\nThey changed the menu to serve Chicken and Waffles and Watermelon in honor of BHM.",
">\n\nTo be fair, per the article...\n\n\"While our menu was not intended as a cultural meal, we acknowledge that the timing was inappropriate, and our team should have been more thoughtful in its service,\" the Aramark statement said.\n\nHowever...\n\nAramark has found itself in similar situations in years past, including an incident in 2011 where UC California-Irvine, an Aramark client, was criticized for serving a \"MLH Holiday Special\" that featured chicken and waffles.\n\nSo, yeah, there's something rotten in Aramark.",
">\n\nI love what you did there.",
">\n\nChicken and waffles is fucking awesome",
">\n\nChicken and Waffles do not go with watermelon. That’s the issue. This was intentionally a racist joke.",
">\n\nAt this point the motivation was to be entirely racist. Nobody is going to believe anyone they didn’t know.",
">\n\nCan't believe if I'll be forced to not eat any of those on Black History Month.",
">\n\nexactly the shit only whites can be offended about in the name of others. no sane men should deny gods gift of chicken and waffles whatever the occasion.\nit may be a stereotype you recognize for racism, but it also, is fucking delicious.",
">\n\n\nIt's a stupid stereotype that's not even actually racist.\n\nExcept it IS a racist stereotype, has been for centuries, and continues to be so.\nJust because you don't like that it is, doesn't change that fact.\nAdditionally, no one uses the foods of the cultures you presented as a negative facet of their identity...and in fact this is the EXACT argument you see racist people use to say \"it's ok\" to be shitty towards black people.",
">\n\nI'm not explaining something to someone making obviously inflammatory commentary in bad faith. You know the issue isn't with chicken and waffles specifically, as it's been pointed out COUNTLESS times throughout this comment section. It's the inclusion of watermelon, a known negative stereotype.\nYou being ignorant of history isn't anyone's problem, but yours.\nAs for the rest of this tantrum?\nOk, 🤡.\nEdit: Imagine that. Blocking me after making a comment...sorry, throwing a tantrum. Comment:\n\nThe only one doing anything here in bad faith is the one with their silly clown emojis who refuses to support their point and instead prefers to sling mud.\n\nMy reply:\nYou came in here, making wildly racist claims about a topic you're obviously ignorant on, you double down on the racism and ignorance, and when called out and treated with the same respect as you have shown to others...you go into toddler mode.\nNah, I think I'm pretty fucking spot on with my assessment of you.",
">\n\nI'm personally offended that \na. we are eaten\nb. people are offended because we are eaten",
">\n\nSir, you have a license to cluck.",
">\n\nI can understand where they're coming from but as a (former) southerner you should never have to apologize for chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nagreed. if they are good. now bad... then yeah...",
">\n\n... Until it's realized all the cooks are black. \nAh, narrative shift, nothing to see here",
">\n\nTell that to the black student who was upset being served watermelon then.",
">\n\nWould it be ok on the 17th ?",
">\n\nOne of my few bright memories from elementary school were of getting to eat different foods from different places during holidays and what not. I'll never be able to eat another latke again, but, I digest,it seems like a foolhardy thing to get pissy about. It's a lot better than my Norwegian ass serving Lutefisk.",
">\n\nYou can make latkes, it's pretty easy",
">\n\nI’m white and grew in the south, personally I have a hard time understanding how this is wrong. Literally everyone besides probably the vegans moving from California love fried foods, for fucks sake some of the most popular items at the Texas State Fair have been fried candy bars and fried BUTTER. I literally eat fried chicken and waffles a few times a month and that’s because I’m on a diet and am trying to lose weight. When I was a kid when they were in season we literally used to go through at least one watermelon a week and I’m not taking about those small snack size ones. Pro tip if you have a waffle maker; cornbread waffles. Enough said… The only thing they were missing was fried okra which is the only side dish anyone ever needs.\nAlso not every stereotype has to have a negative connotation. I’m Jewish and most of us like stereotypical foods. When I was a kid and went to shul after the service there would usually be a spread with bagels, schmear, sometimes lox, kugel, gefilte fish (absolutely disgusting), and when we were really lucky a cholent.",
">\n\nIt’s the watermelon 🍉 and the chicken 🍗 combination that is offensive. Not the chicken and waffles part. Weird headline.",
">\n\nThey're mad because it should be a weekly menu item!",
">\n\nHold the phone. Aren't waffles like European? Explain like i'm five how waffles are racist while I make me a Belgian waffle with lingonberry and whipped cream. Hold the phone again. Nutella and whipped cream. (Don't have any lingonberries handy) Ok, now explain.",
">\n\nIt’s a stereotype that black people like friend chicken. Also they served watermelon. Which is stereotypically associated being enjoyed by blavk people.\nIt’s sort of like having turkish week and serving shishkabob, indian week and serving curry, greek week serving chicken fries and tzatziki and so on and so forth",
">\n\nWatermelon is not associated with being enjoyed by black people… everyone likes a watermelon on a summer day.",
">\n\nHow about you google it real quick, just to make sure",
">\n\nNo need to do so, I live in a country where most people are white and everyone likes watermelon anyway.",
">\n\nAbsurdly stupid association, made up by people who want to create conflicts for fun.\nEveryone likes watermelons, independent on skin colour.\nI would be happy for a slice of watermelon for lunch, and it has nothing to do with my race.",
">\n\nSure. Everyone likes it.\nBut you're literally ignoring that it was a stereotype for so long that we have newspaper cartoons 150 years old making fun of it.\nI agree it's a stupid association, but it's a real stereotype: even the Larry David bit is making fun of it.\n\"It's a stupid stereotype so it doesn't exist\" isn't the best take on it.",
">\n\nThis made-up “issue” takes attention away from real racism such as violence or doctors thinking black people feel less pain.",
">\n\nI don't think it was made up so much as just tone deaf.\nEveryone likes chicken and waffles.\nMaybe not doing it for a special Black history event seems like a reasonable compromise.",
">\n\nOnly offensive if they were shitty (which they probably were)"
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The issue isn't the chicken and waffles. It's the fact that it was served with watermelon.
Nuance is a thing.
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"What’s wrong with chicken and waffles?",
">\n\nThe problem is when someone responds to Black History Month by pushing stereotypes.\nOutside of context, nothing would be wrong.",
">\n\nis chicken and waffles a stereotype?\nI'm honestly asking. I've never heard of that.",
">\n\nIt had way less to do with Chicken and Waffles being served, and them serving it with watermelon.\nThey could have served it with any other fruit and it would be a non-issue.",
">\n\nChicken waffles and watermelon are all delicious. As a black person this seems kind of a hyperbolic complaint.\nI get the thought behind it but unless they served it in black face I don’t see the issue.\n😂",
">\n\nThe black students at the middle school took issue with it. That's where the push came from and it was specifically regarding adding watermelon to it.",
">\n\nIf the black kids took this at a dig at them, I should imagine it's not a school where they feel valued most other days either",
">\n\nHonoring Black History month by emphasizing stereotypes is pretty tone deaf.\nShit man, I will fuck up some chicken, waffles and watermelon. Just can't imagine someone thought that was a good idea for the first day of black history.",
">\n\nThis.",
">\n\nFor those asking what the problem is with chicken and waffles -\n\nThey served something different from what was planned for the day, and the meal is attached to stereotypes.\nThey went out of their way to serve a watermelon dessert, which has been confirmed as being an extremely rare item.\nThe company did something similar in 2018, and terminated employees who organized it, indicating there was at least something going on that shouldn't have occurred. [src]\nThey also had an issue in 2011 (I wasn't aware of it until reading this article, only the 2018 issue) with UC California-Irvine.\n\nIf it had already been planned and was a common meal, I don't think there'd have been an issue. But for them to change the planned meal on the first day of Black History Month and to include items that were outside the norm is a really bad look for the company and its employees at that school.\nIt's also telling that this is the third time (that we know of) that this has occurred with the same company.",
">\n\nWere green meals used to subjugate and disparage an entire race like watermelon was?\nWhat about pasta-stuffed pizza, or tacos? Either of those specifically used to disparage an entire race?\nNo? Then none of those examples compare.\nAww, what's wrong? Don't like being called out for using the argument racist people do?\nToo fucking bad.",
">\n\nNot the person you responded to, and I am still learning American history as I go. How did white Americans use watermelons to disparage black Americans?",
">\n\nThis is unacceptable! Under no circumstances should anyone ever apologize for serving chicken and waffles. The only acceptable apology is for not serving more chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nI worked in NYC schools for a while. What they should be apologizing for at most schools is serving a couple frozen processed chicken nuggets on a half-toasted eggo and calling it \"chicken and waffles\".",
">\n\nThat's not chicken and waffles! That's a being poor and just eating whatever you have in the freezer kind of meal.",
">\n\nI mean that's more or less the kind of budget public schools are working with. Not to mention that the people working in these kitchens are paid extremely poorly as well. Like 99% of problems in education in the USA, the solution is \"we need more money\". But hey as long as we can make sure grown men get paid millions of dollars to throw balls around and Jeff Bezos can play astronaut who cares about kids, right?",
">\n\nKeep in mind if you're looking at that and going \"wow that's actually a good pay\" keep in mind this is New York City, one of the most expensive spots in the country to live in. I was a high school special education teacher there for five years (and lived there before with even lower paying jobs for 7-8 years). Even if you're at the upper level of that pay scale you're pretty much putting 50% of your income straight into rent, even if you live in a cheap area.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it’s not easy to live here.",
">\n\nDefinitely isn't. I lived there 2006-2019, ended up landing in Michigan after a brief stint in North Carolina, I'm happy I spent such a large chunk of formative adult years there (I moved there right after college) because as someone who grew up in a small, non-diverse New England rural town it was a huge contrast. These days though when people ask if I miss NYC my answer is \"all the things I miss I can get when I go visit\".",
">\n\nThere's nothing wrong with chicken and waffles on any day.",
">\n\nNo, but there's a huge fucking issue with serving watermelon to black students on the first day of BHM...you know, the actual issue.",
">\n\nWhere do you even get fresh watermelon from in February? It's not in season until the end of summer.",
">\n\nLikely grown in south America somewhere.",
">\n\nThe one I got over the weekend said it came from Chile.",
">\n\nApologize for what. This is stupid.",
">\n\nThey changed the menu to serve Chicken and Waffles and Watermelon in honor of BHM.",
">\n\nTo be fair, per the article...\n\n\"While our menu was not intended as a cultural meal, we acknowledge that the timing was inappropriate, and our team should have been more thoughtful in its service,\" the Aramark statement said.\n\nHowever...\n\nAramark has found itself in similar situations in years past, including an incident in 2011 where UC California-Irvine, an Aramark client, was criticized for serving a \"MLH Holiday Special\" that featured chicken and waffles.\n\nSo, yeah, there's something rotten in Aramark.",
">\n\nI love what you did there.",
">\n\nChicken and waffles is fucking awesome",
">\n\nChicken and Waffles do not go with watermelon. That’s the issue. This was intentionally a racist joke.",
">\n\nAt this point the motivation was to be entirely racist. Nobody is going to believe anyone they didn’t know.",
">\n\nCan't believe if I'll be forced to not eat any of those on Black History Month.",
">\n\nexactly the shit only whites can be offended about in the name of others. no sane men should deny gods gift of chicken and waffles whatever the occasion.\nit may be a stereotype you recognize for racism, but it also, is fucking delicious.",
">\n\n\nIt's a stupid stereotype that's not even actually racist.\n\nExcept it IS a racist stereotype, has been for centuries, and continues to be so.\nJust because you don't like that it is, doesn't change that fact.\nAdditionally, no one uses the foods of the cultures you presented as a negative facet of their identity...and in fact this is the EXACT argument you see racist people use to say \"it's ok\" to be shitty towards black people.",
">\n\nI'm not explaining something to someone making obviously inflammatory commentary in bad faith. You know the issue isn't with chicken and waffles specifically, as it's been pointed out COUNTLESS times throughout this comment section. It's the inclusion of watermelon, a known negative stereotype.\nYou being ignorant of history isn't anyone's problem, but yours.\nAs for the rest of this tantrum?\nOk, 🤡.\nEdit: Imagine that. Blocking me after making a comment...sorry, throwing a tantrum. Comment:\n\nThe only one doing anything here in bad faith is the one with their silly clown emojis who refuses to support their point and instead prefers to sling mud.\n\nMy reply:\nYou came in here, making wildly racist claims about a topic you're obviously ignorant on, you double down on the racism and ignorance, and when called out and treated with the same respect as you have shown to others...you go into toddler mode.\nNah, I think I'm pretty fucking spot on with my assessment of you.",
">\n\nI'm personally offended that \na. we are eaten\nb. people are offended because we are eaten",
">\n\nSir, you have a license to cluck.",
">\n\nI can understand where they're coming from but as a (former) southerner you should never have to apologize for chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nagreed. if they are good. now bad... then yeah...",
">\n\n... Until it's realized all the cooks are black. \nAh, narrative shift, nothing to see here",
">\n\nTell that to the black student who was upset being served watermelon then.",
">\n\nWould it be ok on the 17th ?",
">\n\nOne of my few bright memories from elementary school were of getting to eat different foods from different places during holidays and what not. I'll never be able to eat another latke again, but, I digest,it seems like a foolhardy thing to get pissy about. It's a lot better than my Norwegian ass serving Lutefisk.",
">\n\nYou can make latkes, it's pretty easy",
">\n\nI’m white and grew in the south, personally I have a hard time understanding how this is wrong. Literally everyone besides probably the vegans moving from California love fried foods, for fucks sake some of the most popular items at the Texas State Fair have been fried candy bars and fried BUTTER. I literally eat fried chicken and waffles a few times a month and that’s because I’m on a diet and am trying to lose weight. When I was a kid when they were in season we literally used to go through at least one watermelon a week and I’m not taking about those small snack size ones. Pro tip if you have a waffle maker; cornbread waffles. Enough said… The only thing they were missing was fried okra which is the only side dish anyone ever needs.\nAlso not every stereotype has to have a negative connotation. I’m Jewish and most of us like stereotypical foods. When I was a kid and went to shul after the service there would usually be a spread with bagels, schmear, sometimes lox, kugel, gefilte fish (absolutely disgusting), and when we were really lucky a cholent.",
">\n\nIt’s the watermelon 🍉 and the chicken 🍗 combination that is offensive. Not the chicken and waffles part. Weird headline.",
">\n\nThey're mad because it should be a weekly menu item!",
">\n\nHold the phone. Aren't waffles like European? Explain like i'm five how waffles are racist while I make me a Belgian waffle with lingonberry and whipped cream. Hold the phone again. Nutella and whipped cream. (Don't have any lingonberries handy) Ok, now explain.",
">\n\nIt’s a stereotype that black people like friend chicken. Also they served watermelon. Which is stereotypically associated being enjoyed by blavk people.\nIt’s sort of like having turkish week and serving shishkabob, indian week and serving curry, greek week serving chicken fries and tzatziki and so on and so forth",
">\n\nWatermelon is not associated with being enjoyed by black people… everyone likes a watermelon on a summer day.",
">\n\nHow about you google it real quick, just to make sure",
">\n\nNo need to do so, I live in a country where most people are white and everyone likes watermelon anyway.",
">\n\nAbsurdly stupid association, made up by people who want to create conflicts for fun.\nEveryone likes watermelons, independent on skin colour.\nI would be happy for a slice of watermelon for lunch, and it has nothing to do with my race.",
">\n\nSure. Everyone likes it.\nBut you're literally ignoring that it was a stereotype for so long that we have newspaper cartoons 150 years old making fun of it.\nI agree it's a stupid association, but it's a real stereotype: even the Larry David bit is making fun of it.\n\"It's a stupid stereotype so it doesn't exist\" isn't the best take on it.",
">\n\nThis made-up “issue” takes attention away from real racism such as violence or doctors thinking black people feel less pain.",
">\n\nI don't think it was made up so much as just tone deaf.\nEveryone likes chicken and waffles.\nMaybe not doing it for a special Black history event seems like a reasonable compromise.",
">\n\nOnly offensive if they were shitty (which they probably were)",
">\n\nIsn't this an example of being racially sensitive (the good type of steriotype), as opposed to insensitive (the bad type)? That's a good thing!\nIt's like serving a man a steak on the first date. You're being sensitive to their gender by getting a positive steriotype right"
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I guess it’s only ok to stereotype food if there is a nationality behind it 🤣🤣🤣
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[
"What’s wrong with chicken and waffles?",
">\n\nThe problem is when someone responds to Black History Month by pushing stereotypes.\nOutside of context, nothing would be wrong.",
">\n\nis chicken and waffles a stereotype?\nI'm honestly asking. I've never heard of that.",
">\n\nIt had way less to do with Chicken and Waffles being served, and them serving it with watermelon.\nThey could have served it with any other fruit and it would be a non-issue.",
">\n\nChicken waffles and watermelon are all delicious. As a black person this seems kind of a hyperbolic complaint.\nI get the thought behind it but unless they served it in black face I don’t see the issue.\n😂",
">\n\nThe black students at the middle school took issue with it. That's where the push came from and it was specifically regarding adding watermelon to it.",
">\n\nIf the black kids took this at a dig at them, I should imagine it's not a school where they feel valued most other days either",
">\n\nHonoring Black History month by emphasizing stereotypes is pretty tone deaf.\nShit man, I will fuck up some chicken, waffles and watermelon. Just can't imagine someone thought that was a good idea for the first day of black history.",
">\n\nThis.",
">\n\nFor those asking what the problem is with chicken and waffles -\n\nThey served something different from what was planned for the day, and the meal is attached to stereotypes.\nThey went out of their way to serve a watermelon dessert, which has been confirmed as being an extremely rare item.\nThe company did something similar in 2018, and terminated employees who organized it, indicating there was at least something going on that shouldn't have occurred. [src]\nThey also had an issue in 2011 (I wasn't aware of it until reading this article, only the 2018 issue) with UC California-Irvine.\n\nIf it had already been planned and was a common meal, I don't think there'd have been an issue. But for them to change the planned meal on the first day of Black History Month and to include items that were outside the norm is a really bad look for the company and its employees at that school.\nIt's also telling that this is the third time (that we know of) that this has occurred with the same company.",
">\n\nWere green meals used to subjugate and disparage an entire race like watermelon was?\nWhat about pasta-stuffed pizza, or tacos? Either of those specifically used to disparage an entire race?\nNo? Then none of those examples compare.\nAww, what's wrong? Don't like being called out for using the argument racist people do?\nToo fucking bad.",
">\n\nNot the person you responded to, and I am still learning American history as I go. How did white Americans use watermelons to disparage black Americans?",
">\n\nThis is unacceptable! Under no circumstances should anyone ever apologize for serving chicken and waffles. The only acceptable apology is for not serving more chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nI worked in NYC schools for a while. What they should be apologizing for at most schools is serving a couple frozen processed chicken nuggets on a half-toasted eggo and calling it \"chicken and waffles\".",
">\n\nThat's not chicken and waffles! That's a being poor and just eating whatever you have in the freezer kind of meal.",
">\n\nI mean that's more or less the kind of budget public schools are working with. Not to mention that the people working in these kitchens are paid extremely poorly as well. Like 99% of problems in education in the USA, the solution is \"we need more money\". But hey as long as we can make sure grown men get paid millions of dollars to throw balls around and Jeff Bezos can play astronaut who cares about kids, right?",
">\n\nKeep in mind if you're looking at that and going \"wow that's actually a good pay\" keep in mind this is New York City, one of the most expensive spots in the country to live in. I was a high school special education teacher there for five years (and lived there before with even lower paying jobs for 7-8 years). Even if you're at the upper level of that pay scale you're pretty much putting 50% of your income straight into rent, even if you live in a cheap area.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it’s not easy to live here.",
">\n\nDefinitely isn't. I lived there 2006-2019, ended up landing in Michigan after a brief stint in North Carolina, I'm happy I spent such a large chunk of formative adult years there (I moved there right after college) because as someone who grew up in a small, non-diverse New England rural town it was a huge contrast. These days though when people ask if I miss NYC my answer is \"all the things I miss I can get when I go visit\".",
">\n\nThere's nothing wrong with chicken and waffles on any day.",
">\n\nNo, but there's a huge fucking issue with serving watermelon to black students on the first day of BHM...you know, the actual issue.",
">\n\nWhere do you even get fresh watermelon from in February? It's not in season until the end of summer.",
">\n\nLikely grown in south America somewhere.",
">\n\nThe one I got over the weekend said it came from Chile.",
">\n\nApologize for what. This is stupid.",
">\n\nThey changed the menu to serve Chicken and Waffles and Watermelon in honor of BHM.",
">\n\nTo be fair, per the article...\n\n\"While our menu was not intended as a cultural meal, we acknowledge that the timing was inappropriate, and our team should have been more thoughtful in its service,\" the Aramark statement said.\n\nHowever...\n\nAramark has found itself in similar situations in years past, including an incident in 2011 where UC California-Irvine, an Aramark client, was criticized for serving a \"MLH Holiday Special\" that featured chicken and waffles.\n\nSo, yeah, there's something rotten in Aramark.",
">\n\nI love what you did there.",
">\n\nChicken and waffles is fucking awesome",
">\n\nChicken and Waffles do not go with watermelon. That’s the issue. This was intentionally a racist joke.",
">\n\nAt this point the motivation was to be entirely racist. Nobody is going to believe anyone they didn’t know.",
">\n\nCan't believe if I'll be forced to not eat any of those on Black History Month.",
">\n\nexactly the shit only whites can be offended about in the name of others. no sane men should deny gods gift of chicken and waffles whatever the occasion.\nit may be a stereotype you recognize for racism, but it also, is fucking delicious.",
">\n\n\nIt's a stupid stereotype that's not even actually racist.\n\nExcept it IS a racist stereotype, has been for centuries, and continues to be so.\nJust because you don't like that it is, doesn't change that fact.\nAdditionally, no one uses the foods of the cultures you presented as a negative facet of their identity...and in fact this is the EXACT argument you see racist people use to say \"it's ok\" to be shitty towards black people.",
">\n\nI'm not explaining something to someone making obviously inflammatory commentary in bad faith. You know the issue isn't with chicken and waffles specifically, as it's been pointed out COUNTLESS times throughout this comment section. It's the inclusion of watermelon, a known negative stereotype.\nYou being ignorant of history isn't anyone's problem, but yours.\nAs for the rest of this tantrum?\nOk, 🤡.\nEdit: Imagine that. Blocking me after making a comment...sorry, throwing a tantrum. Comment:\n\nThe only one doing anything here in bad faith is the one with their silly clown emojis who refuses to support their point and instead prefers to sling mud.\n\nMy reply:\nYou came in here, making wildly racist claims about a topic you're obviously ignorant on, you double down on the racism and ignorance, and when called out and treated with the same respect as you have shown to others...you go into toddler mode.\nNah, I think I'm pretty fucking spot on with my assessment of you.",
">\n\nI'm personally offended that \na. we are eaten\nb. people are offended because we are eaten",
">\n\nSir, you have a license to cluck.",
">\n\nI can understand where they're coming from but as a (former) southerner you should never have to apologize for chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nagreed. if they are good. now bad... then yeah...",
">\n\n... Until it's realized all the cooks are black. \nAh, narrative shift, nothing to see here",
">\n\nTell that to the black student who was upset being served watermelon then.",
">\n\nWould it be ok on the 17th ?",
">\n\nOne of my few bright memories from elementary school were of getting to eat different foods from different places during holidays and what not. I'll never be able to eat another latke again, but, I digest,it seems like a foolhardy thing to get pissy about. It's a lot better than my Norwegian ass serving Lutefisk.",
">\n\nYou can make latkes, it's pretty easy",
">\n\nI’m white and grew in the south, personally I have a hard time understanding how this is wrong. Literally everyone besides probably the vegans moving from California love fried foods, for fucks sake some of the most popular items at the Texas State Fair have been fried candy bars and fried BUTTER. I literally eat fried chicken and waffles a few times a month and that’s because I’m on a diet and am trying to lose weight. When I was a kid when they were in season we literally used to go through at least one watermelon a week and I’m not taking about those small snack size ones. Pro tip if you have a waffle maker; cornbread waffles. Enough said… The only thing they were missing was fried okra which is the only side dish anyone ever needs.\nAlso not every stereotype has to have a negative connotation. I’m Jewish and most of us like stereotypical foods. When I was a kid and went to shul after the service there would usually be a spread with bagels, schmear, sometimes lox, kugel, gefilte fish (absolutely disgusting), and when we were really lucky a cholent.",
">\n\nIt’s the watermelon 🍉 and the chicken 🍗 combination that is offensive. Not the chicken and waffles part. Weird headline.",
">\n\nThey're mad because it should be a weekly menu item!",
">\n\nHold the phone. Aren't waffles like European? Explain like i'm five how waffles are racist while I make me a Belgian waffle with lingonberry and whipped cream. Hold the phone again. Nutella and whipped cream. (Don't have any lingonberries handy) Ok, now explain.",
">\n\nIt’s a stereotype that black people like friend chicken. Also they served watermelon. Which is stereotypically associated being enjoyed by blavk people.\nIt’s sort of like having turkish week and serving shishkabob, indian week and serving curry, greek week serving chicken fries and tzatziki and so on and so forth",
">\n\nWatermelon is not associated with being enjoyed by black people… everyone likes a watermelon on a summer day.",
">\n\nHow about you google it real quick, just to make sure",
">\n\nNo need to do so, I live in a country where most people are white and everyone likes watermelon anyway.",
">\n\nAbsurdly stupid association, made up by people who want to create conflicts for fun.\nEveryone likes watermelons, independent on skin colour.\nI would be happy for a slice of watermelon for lunch, and it has nothing to do with my race.",
">\n\nSure. Everyone likes it.\nBut you're literally ignoring that it was a stereotype for so long that we have newspaper cartoons 150 years old making fun of it.\nI agree it's a stupid association, but it's a real stereotype: even the Larry David bit is making fun of it.\n\"It's a stupid stereotype so it doesn't exist\" isn't the best take on it.",
">\n\nThis made-up “issue” takes attention away from real racism such as violence or doctors thinking black people feel less pain.",
">\n\nI don't think it was made up so much as just tone deaf.\nEveryone likes chicken and waffles.\nMaybe not doing it for a special Black history event seems like a reasonable compromise.",
">\n\nOnly offensive if they were shitty (which they probably were)",
">\n\nIsn't this an example of being racially sensitive (the good type of steriotype), as opposed to insensitive (the bad type)? That's a good thing!\nIt's like serving a man a steak on the first date. You're being sensitive to their gender by getting a positive steriotype right",
">\n\nThe issue isn't the chicken and waffles. It's the fact that it was served with watermelon.\nNuance is a thing."
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"How can we show black students we care this month? Ideas?"
"We could reduce them to food stereotypes?"
"Nailed it. Get to work."
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[
"What’s wrong with chicken and waffles?",
">\n\nThe problem is when someone responds to Black History Month by pushing stereotypes.\nOutside of context, nothing would be wrong.",
">\n\nis chicken and waffles a stereotype?\nI'm honestly asking. I've never heard of that.",
">\n\nIt had way less to do with Chicken and Waffles being served, and them serving it with watermelon.\nThey could have served it with any other fruit and it would be a non-issue.",
">\n\nChicken waffles and watermelon are all delicious. As a black person this seems kind of a hyperbolic complaint.\nI get the thought behind it but unless they served it in black face I don’t see the issue.\n😂",
">\n\nThe black students at the middle school took issue with it. That's where the push came from and it was specifically regarding adding watermelon to it.",
">\n\nIf the black kids took this at a dig at them, I should imagine it's not a school where they feel valued most other days either",
">\n\nHonoring Black History month by emphasizing stereotypes is pretty tone deaf.\nShit man, I will fuck up some chicken, waffles and watermelon. Just can't imagine someone thought that was a good idea for the first day of black history.",
">\n\nThis.",
">\n\nFor those asking what the problem is with chicken and waffles -\n\nThey served something different from what was planned for the day, and the meal is attached to stereotypes.\nThey went out of their way to serve a watermelon dessert, which has been confirmed as being an extremely rare item.\nThe company did something similar in 2018, and terminated employees who organized it, indicating there was at least something going on that shouldn't have occurred. [src]\nThey also had an issue in 2011 (I wasn't aware of it until reading this article, only the 2018 issue) with UC California-Irvine.\n\nIf it had already been planned and was a common meal, I don't think there'd have been an issue. But for them to change the planned meal on the first day of Black History Month and to include items that were outside the norm is a really bad look for the company and its employees at that school.\nIt's also telling that this is the third time (that we know of) that this has occurred with the same company.",
">\n\nWere green meals used to subjugate and disparage an entire race like watermelon was?\nWhat about pasta-stuffed pizza, or tacos? Either of those specifically used to disparage an entire race?\nNo? Then none of those examples compare.\nAww, what's wrong? Don't like being called out for using the argument racist people do?\nToo fucking bad.",
">\n\nNot the person you responded to, and I am still learning American history as I go. How did white Americans use watermelons to disparage black Americans?",
">\n\nThis is unacceptable! Under no circumstances should anyone ever apologize for serving chicken and waffles. The only acceptable apology is for not serving more chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nI worked in NYC schools for a while. What they should be apologizing for at most schools is serving a couple frozen processed chicken nuggets on a half-toasted eggo and calling it \"chicken and waffles\".",
">\n\nThat's not chicken and waffles! That's a being poor and just eating whatever you have in the freezer kind of meal.",
">\n\nI mean that's more or less the kind of budget public schools are working with. Not to mention that the people working in these kitchens are paid extremely poorly as well. Like 99% of problems in education in the USA, the solution is \"we need more money\". But hey as long as we can make sure grown men get paid millions of dollars to throw balls around and Jeff Bezos can play astronaut who cares about kids, right?",
">\n\nKeep in mind if you're looking at that and going \"wow that's actually a good pay\" keep in mind this is New York City, one of the most expensive spots in the country to live in. I was a high school special education teacher there for five years (and lived there before with even lower paying jobs for 7-8 years). Even if you're at the upper level of that pay scale you're pretty much putting 50% of your income straight into rent, even if you live in a cheap area.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it’s not easy to live here.",
">\n\nDefinitely isn't. I lived there 2006-2019, ended up landing in Michigan after a brief stint in North Carolina, I'm happy I spent such a large chunk of formative adult years there (I moved there right after college) because as someone who grew up in a small, non-diverse New England rural town it was a huge contrast. These days though when people ask if I miss NYC my answer is \"all the things I miss I can get when I go visit\".",
">\n\nThere's nothing wrong with chicken and waffles on any day.",
">\n\nNo, but there's a huge fucking issue with serving watermelon to black students on the first day of BHM...you know, the actual issue.",
">\n\nWhere do you even get fresh watermelon from in February? It's not in season until the end of summer.",
">\n\nLikely grown in south America somewhere.",
">\n\nThe one I got over the weekend said it came from Chile.",
">\n\nApologize for what. This is stupid.",
">\n\nThey changed the menu to serve Chicken and Waffles and Watermelon in honor of BHM.",
">\n\nTo be fair, per the article...\n\n\"While our menu was not intended as a cultural meal, we acknowledge that the timing was inappropriate, and our team should have been more thoughtful in its service,\" the Aramark statement said.\n\nHowever...\n\nAramark has found itself in similar situations in years past, including an incident in 2011 where UC California-Irvine, an Aramark client, was criticized for serving a \"MLH Holiday Special\" that featured chicken and waffles.\n\nSo, yeah, there's something rotten in Aramark.",
">\n\nI love what you did there.",
">\n\nChicken and waffles is fucking awesome",
">\n\nChicken and Waffles do not go with watermelon. That’s the issue. This was intentionally a racist joke.",
">\n\nAt this point the motivation was to be entirely racist. Nobody is going to believe anyone they didn’t know.",
">\n\nCan't believe if I'll be forced to not eat any of those on Black History Month.",
">\n\nexactly the shit only whites can be offended about in the name of others. no sane men should deny gods gift of chicken and waffles whatever the occasion.\nit may be a stereotype you recognize for racism, but it also, is fucking delicious.",
">\n\n\nIt's a stupid stereotype that's not even actually racist.\n\nExcept it IS a racist stereotype, has been for centuries, and continues to be so.\nJust because you don't like that it is, doesn't change that fact.\nAdditionally, no one uses the foods of the cultures you presented as a negative facet of their identity...and in fact this is the EXACT argument you see racist people use to say \"it's ok\" to be shitty towards black people.",
">\n\nI'm not explaining something to someone making obviously inflammatory commentary in bad faith. You know the issue isn't with chicken and waffles specifically, as it's been pointed out COUNTLESS times throughout this comment section. It's the inclusion of watermelon, a known negative stereotype.\nYou being ignorant of history isn't anyone's problem, but yours.\nAs for the rest of this tantrum?\nOk, 🤡.\nEdit: Imagine that. Blocking me after making a comment...sorry, throwing a tantrum. Comment:\n\nThe only one doing anything here in bad faith is the one with their silly clown emojis who refuses to support their point and instead prefers to sling mud.\n\nMy reply:\nYou came in here, making wildly racist claims about a topic you're obviously ignorant on, you double down on the racism and ignorance, and when called out and treated with the same respect as you have shown to others...you go into toddler mode.\nNah, I think I'm pretty fucking spot on with my assessment of you.",
">\n\nI'm personally offended that \na. we are eaten\nb. people are offended because we are eaten",
">\n\nSir, you have a license to cluck.",
">\n\nI can understand where they're coming from but as a (former) southerner you should never have to apologize for chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nagreed. if they are good. now bad... then yeah...",
">\n\n... Until it's realized all the cooks are black. \nAh, narrative shift, nothing to see here",
">\n\nTell that to the black student who was upset being served watermelon then.",
">\n\nWould it be ok on the 17th ?",
">\n\nOne of my few bright memories from elementary school were of getting to eat different foods from different places during holidays and what not. I'll never be able to eat another latke again, but, I digest,it seems like a foolhardy thing to get pissy about. It's a lot better than my Norwegian ass serving Lutefisk.",
">\n\nYou can make latkes, it's pretty easy",
">\n\nI’m white and grew in the south, personally I have a hard time understanding how this is wrong. Literally everyone besides probably the vegans moving from California love fried foods, for fucks sake some of the most popular items at the Texas State Fair have been fried candy bars and fried BUTTER. I literally eat fried chicken and waffles a few times a month and that’s because I’m on a diet and am trying to lose weight. When I was a kid when they were in season we literally used to go through at least one watermelon a week and I’m not taking about those small snack size ones. Pro tip if you have a waffle maker; cornbread waffles. Enough said… The only thing they were missing was fried okra which is the only side dish anyone ever needs.\nAlso not every stereotype has to have a negative connotation. I’m Jewish and most of us like stereotypical foods. When I was a kid and went to shul after the service there would usually be a spread with bagels, schmear, sometimes lox, kugel, gefilte fish (absolutely disgusting), and when we were really lucky a cholent.",
">\n\nIt’s the watermelon 🍉 and the chicken 🍗 combination that is offensive. Not the chicken and waffles part. Weird headline.",
">\n\nThey're mad because it should be a weekly menu item!",
">\n\nHold the phone. Aren't waffles like European? Explain like i'm five how waffles are racist while I make me a Belgian waffle with lingonberry and whipped cream. Hold the phone again. Nutella and whipped cream. (Don't have any lingonberries handy) Ok, now explain.",
">\n\nIt’s a stereotype that black people like friend chicken. Also they served watermelon. Which is stereotypically associated being enjoyed by blavk people.\nIt’s sort of like having turkish week and serving shishkabob, indian week and serving curry, greek week serving chicken fries and tzatziki and so on and so forth",
">\n\nWatermelon is not associated with being enjoyed by black people… everyone likes a watermelon on a summer day.",
">\n\nHow about you google it real quick, just to make sure",
">\n\nNo need to do so, I live in a country where most people are white and everyone likes watermelon anyway.",
">\n\nAbsurdly stupid association, made up by people who want to create conflicts for fun.\nEveryone likes watermelons, independent on skin colour.\nI would be happy for a slice of watermelon for lunch, and it has nothing to do with my race.",
">\n\nSure. Everyone likes it.\nBut you're literally ignoring that it was a stereotype for so long that we have newspaper cartoons 150 years old making fun of it.\nI agree it's a stupid association, but it's a real stereotype: even the Larry David bit is making fun of it.\n\"It's a stupid stereotype so it doesn't exist\" isn't the best take on it.",
">\n\nThis made-up “issue” takes attention away from real racism such as violence or doctors thinking black people feel less pain.",
">\n\nI don't think it was made up so much as just tone deaf.\nEveryone likes chicken and waffles.\nMaybe not doing it for a special Black history event seems like a reasonable compromise.",
">\n\nOnly offensive if they were shitty (which they probably were)",
">\n\nIsn't this an example of being racially sensitive (the good type of steriotype), as opposed to insensitive (the bad type)? That's a good thing!\nIt's like serving a man a steak on the first date. You're being sensitive to their gender by getting a positive steriotype right",
">\n\nThe issue isn't the chicken and waffles. It's the fact that it was served with watermelon.\nNuance is a thing.",
">\n\nI guess it’s only ok to stereotype food if there is a nationality behind it 🤣🤣🤣"
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If done right, this could actually be pretty cool. Problem is, they'd never do it right.
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"What’s wrong with chicken and waffles?",
">\n\nThe problem is when someone responds to Black History Month by pushing stereotypes.\nOutside of context, nothing would be wrong.",
">\n\nis chicken and waffles a stereotype?\nI'm honestly asking. I've never heard of that.",
">\n\nIt had way less to do with Chicken and Waffles being served, and them serving it with watermelon.\nThey could have served it with any other fruit and it would be a non-issue.",
">\n\nChicken waffles and watermelon are all delicious. As a black person this seems kind of a hyperbolic complaint.\nI get the thought behind it but unless they served it in black face I don’t see the issue.\n😂",
">\n\nThe black students at the middle school took issue with it. That's where the push came from and it was specifically regarding adding watermelon to it.",
">\n\nIf the black kids took this at a dig at them, I should imagine it's not a school where they feel valued most other days either",
">\n\nHonoring Black History month by emphasizing stereotypes is pretty tone deaf.\nShit man, I will fuck up some chicken, waffles and watermelon. Just can't imagine someone thought that was a good idea for the first day of black history.",
">\n\nThis.",
">\n\nFor those asking what the problem is with chicken and waffles -\n\nThey served something different from what was planned for the day, and the meal is attached to stereotypes.\nThey went out of their way to serve a watermelon dessert, which has been confirmed as being an extremely rare item.\nThe company did something similar in 2018, and terminated employees who organized it, indicating there was at least something going on that shouldn't have occurred. [src]\nThey also had an issue in 2011 (I wasn't aware of it until reading this article, only the 2018 issue) with UC California-Irvine.\n\nIf it had already been planned and was a common meal, I don't think there'd have been an issue. But for them to change the planned meal on the first day of Black History Month and to include items that were outside the norm is a really bad look for the company and its employees at that school.\nIt's also telling that this is the third time (that we know of) that this has occurred with the same company.",
">\n\nWere green meals used to subjugate and disparage an entire race like watermelon was?\nWhat about pasta-stuffed pizza, or tacos? Either of those specifically used to disparage an entire race?\nNo? Then none of those examples compare.\nAww, what's wrong? Don't like being called out for using the argument racist people do?\nToo fucking bad.",
">\n\nNot the person you responded to, and I am still learning American history as I go. How did white Americans use watermelons to disparage black Americans?",
">\n\nThis is unacceptable! Under no circumstances should anyone ever apologize for serving chicken and waffles. The only acceptable apology is for not serving more chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nI worked in NYC schools for a while. What they should be apologizing for at most schools is serving a couple frozen processed chicken nuggets on a half-toasted eggo and calling it \"chicken and waffles\".",
">\n\nThat's not chicken and waffles! That's a being poor and just eating whatever you have in the freezer kind of meal.",
">\n\nI mean that's more or less the kind of budget public schools are working with. Not to mention that the people working in these kitchens are paid extremely poorly as well. Like 99% of problems in education in the USA, the solution is \"we need more money\". But hey as long as we can make sure grown men get paid millions of dollars to throw balls around and Jeff Bezos can play astronaut who cares about kids, right?",
">\n\nKeep in mind if you're looking at that and going \"wow that's actually a good pay\" keep in mind this is New York City, one of the most expensive spots in the country to live in. I was a high school special education teacher there for five years (and lived there before with even lower paying jobs for 7-8 years). Even if you're at the upper level of that pay scale you're pretty much putting 50% of your income straight into rent, even if you live in a cheap area.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it’s not easy to live here.",
">\n\nDefinitely isn't. I lived there 2006-2019, ended up landing in Michigan after a brief stint in North Carolina, I'm happy I spent such a large chunk of formative adult years there (I moved there right after college) because as someone who grew up in a small, non-diverse New England rural town it was a huge contrast. These days though when people ask if I miss NYC my answer is \"all the things I miss I can get when I go visit\".",
">\n\nThere's nothing wrong with chicken and waffles on any day.",
">\n\nNo, but there's a huge fucking issue with serving watermelon to black students on the first day of BHM...you know, the actual issue.",
">\n\nWhere do you even get fresh watermelon from in February? It's not in season until the end of summer.",
">\n\nLikely grown in south America somewhere.",
">\n\nThe one I got over the weekend said it came from Chile.",
">\n\nApologize for what. This is stupid.",
">\n\nThey changed the menu to serve Chicken and Waffles and Watermelon in honor of BHM.",
">\n\nTo be fair, per the article...\n\n\"While our menu was not intended as a cultural meal, we acknowledge that the timing was inappropriate, and our team should have been more thoughtful in its service,\" the Aramark statement said.\n\nHowever...\n\nAramark has found itself in similar situations in years past, including an incident in 2011 where UC California-Irvine, an Aramark client, was criticized for serving a \"MLH Holiday Special\" that featured chicken and waffles.\n\nSo, yeah, there's something rotten in Aramark.",
">\n\nI love what you did there.",
">\n\nChicken and waffles is fucking awesome",
">\n\nChicken and Waffles do not go with watermelon. That’s the issue. This was intentionally a racist joke.",
">\n\nAt this point the motivation was to be entirely racist. Nobody is going to believe anyone they didn’t know.",
">\n\nCan't believe if I'll be forced to not eat any of those on Black History Month.",
">\n\nexactly the shit only whites can be offended about in the name of others. no sane men should deny gods gift of chicken and waffles whatever the occasion.\nit may be a stereotype you recognize for racism, but it also, is fucking delicious.",
">\n\n\nIt's a stupid stereotype that's not even actually racist.\n\nExcept it IS a racist stereotype, has been for centuries, and continues to be so.\nJust because you don't like that it is, doesn't change that fact.\nAdditionally, no one uses the foods of the cultures you presented as a negative facet of their identity...and in fact this is the EXACT argument you see racist people use to say \"it's ok\" to be shitty towards black people.",
">\n\nI'm not explaining something to someone making obviously inflammatory commentary in bad faith. You know the issue isn't with chicken and waffles specifically, as it's been pointed out COUNTLESS times throughout this comment section. It's the inclusion of watermelon, a known negative stereotype.\nYou being ignorant of history isn't anyone's problem, but yours.\nAs for the rest of this tantrum?\nOk, 🤡.\nEdit: Imagine that. Blocking me after making a comment...sorry, throwing a tantrum. Comment:\n\nThe only one doing anything here in bad faith is the one with their silly clown emojis who refuses to support their point and instead prefers to sling mud.\n\nMy reply:\nYou came in here, making wildly racist claims about a topic you're obviously ignorant on, you double down on the racism and ignorance, and when called out and treated with the same respect as you have shown to others...you go into toddler mode.\nNah, I think I'm pretty fucking spot on with my assessment of you.",
">\n\nI'm personally offended that \na. we are eaten\nb. people are offended because we are eaten",
">\n\nSir, you have a license to cluck.",
">\n\nI can understand where they're coming from but as a (former) southerner you should never have to apologize for chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nagreed. if they are good. now bad... then yeah...",
">\n\n... Until it's realized all the cooks are black. \nAh, narrative shift, nothing to see here",
">\n\nTell that to the black student who was upset being served watermelon then.",
">\n\nWould it be ok on the 17th ?",
">\n\nOne of my few bright memories from elementary school were of getting to eat different foods from different places during holidays and what not. I'll never be able to eat another latke again, but, I digest,it seems like a foolhardy thing to get pissy about. It's a lot better than my Norwegian ass serving Lutefisk.",
">\n\nYou can make latkes, it's pretty easy",
">\n\nI’m white and grew in the south, personally I have a hard time understanding how this is wrong. Literally everyone besides probably the vegans moving from California love fried foods, for fucks sake some of the most popular items at the Texas State Fair have been fried candy bars and fried BUTTER. I literally eat fried chicken and waffles a few times a month and that’s because I’m on a diet and am trying to lose weight. When I was a kid when they were in season we literally used to go through at least one watermelon a week and I’m not taking about those small snack size ones. Pro tip if you have a waffle maker; cornbread waffles. Enough said… The only thing they were missing was fried okra which is the only side dish anyone ever needs.\nAlso not every stereotype has to have a negative connotation. I’m Jewish and most of us like stereotypical foods. When I was a kid and went to shul after the service there would usually be a spread with bagels, schmear, sometimes lox, kugel, gefilte fish (absolutely disgusting), and when we were really lucky a cholent.",
">\n\nIt’s the watermelon 🍉 and the chicken 🍗 combination that is offensive. Not the chicken and waffles part. Weird headline.",
">\n\nThey're mad because it should be a weekly menu item!",
">\n\nHold the phone. Aren't waffles like European? Explain like i'm five how waffles are racist while I make me a Belgian waffle with lingonberry and whipped cream. Hold the phone again. Nutella and whipped cream. (Don't have any lingonberries handy) Ok, now explain.",
">\n\nIt’s a stereotype that black people like friend chicken. Also they served watermelon. Which is stereotypically associated being enjoyed by blavk people.\nIt’s sort of like having turkish week and serving shishkabob, indian week and serving curry, greek week serving chicken fries and tzatziki and so on and so forth",
">\n\nWatermelon is not associated with being enjoyed by black people… everyone likes a watermelon on a summer day.",
">\n\nHow about you google it real quick, just to make sure",
">\n\nNo need to do so, I live in a country where most people are white and everyone likes watermelon anyway.",
">\n\nAbsurdly stupid association, made up by people who want to create conflicts for fun.\nEveryone likes watermelons, independent on skin colour.\nI would be happy for a slice of watermelon for lunch, and it has nothing to do with my race.",
">\n\nSure. Everyone likes it.\nBut you're literally ignoring that it was a stereotype for so long that we have newspaper cartoons 150 years old making fun of it.\nI agree it's a stupid association, but it's a real stereotype: even the Larry David bit is making fun of it.\n\"It's a stupid stereotype so it doesn't exist\" isn't the best take on it.",
">\n\nThis made-up “issue” takes attention away from real racism such as violence or doctors thinking black people feel less pain.",
">\n\nI don't think it was made up so much as just tone deaf.\nEveryone likes chicken and waffles.\nMaybe not doing it for a special Black history event seems like a reasonable compromise.",
">\n\nOnly offensive if they were shitty (which they probably were)",
">\n\nIsn't this an example of being racially sensitive (the good type of steriotype), as opposed to insensitive (the bad type)? That's a good thing!\nIt's like serving a man a steak on the first date. You're being sensitive to their gender by getting a positive steriotype right",
">\n\nThe issue isn't the chicken and waffles. It's the fact that it was served with watermelon.\nNuance is a thing.",
">\n\nI guess it’s only ok to stereotype food if there is a nationality behind it 🤣🤣🤣",
">\n\n\"How can we show black students we care this month? Ideas?\"\n\"We could reduce them to food stereotypes?\"\n\"Nailed it. Get to work.\""
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Imagine being this childish...then throwing blatant racism on top of it.
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[
"What’s wrong with chicken and waffles?",
">\n\nThe problem is when someone responds to Black History Month by pushing stereotypes.\nOutside of context, nothing would be wrong.",
">\n\nis chicken and waffles a stereotype?\nI'm honestly asking. I've never heard of that.",
">\n\nIt had way less to do with Chicken and Waffles being served, and them serving it with watermelon.\nThey could have served it with any other fruit and it would be a non-issue.",
">\n\nChicken waffles and watermelon are all delicious. As a black person this seems kind of a hyperbolic complaint.\nI get the thought behind it but unless they served it in black face I don’t see the issue.\n😂",
">\n\nThe black students at the middle school took issue with it. That's where the push came from and it was specifically regarding adding watermelon to it.",
">\n\nIf the black kids took this at a dig at them, I should imagine it's not a school where they feel valued most other days either",
">\n\nHonoring Black History month by emphasizing stereotypes is pretty tone deaf.\nShit man, I will fuck up some chicken, waffles and watermelon. Just can't imagine someone thought that was a good idea for the first day of black history.",
">\n\nThis.",
">\n\nFor those asking what the problem is with chicken and waffles -\n\nThey served something different from what was planned for the day, and the meal is attached to stereotypes.\nThey went out of their way to serve a watermelon dessert, which has been confirmed as being an extremely rare item.\nThe company did something similar in 2018, and terminated employees who organized it, indicating there was at least something going on that shouldn't have occurred. [src]\nThey also had an issue in 2011 (I wasn't aware of it until reading this article, only the 2018 issue) with UC California-Irvine.\n\nIf it had already been planned and was a common meal, I don't think there'd have been an issue. But for them to change the planned meal on the first day of Black History Month and to include items that were outside the norm is a really bad look for the company and its employees at that school.\nIt's also telling that this is the third time (that we know of) that this has occurred with the same company.",
">\n\nWere green meals used to subjugate and disparage an entire race like watermelon was?\nWhat about pasta-stuffed pizza, or tacos? Either of those specifically used to disparage an entire race?\nNo? Then none of those examples compare.\nAww, what's wrong? Don't like being called out for using the argument racist people do?\nToo fucking bad.",
">\n\nNot the person you responded to, and I am still learning American history as I go. How did white Americans use watermelons to disparage black Americans?",
">\n\nThis is unacceptable! Under no circumstances should anyone ever apologize for serving chicken and waffles. The only acceptable apology is for not serving more chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nI worked in NYC schools for a while. What they should be apologizing for at most schools is serving a couple frozen processed chicken nuggets on a half-toasted eggo and calling it \"chicken and waffles\".",
">\n\nThat's not chicken and waffles! That's a being poor and just eating whatever you have in the freezer kind of meal.",
">\n\nI mean that's more or less the kind of budget public schools are working with. Not to mention that the people working in these kitchens are paid extremely poorly as well. Like 99% of problems in education in the USA, the solution is \"we need more money\". But hey as long as we can make sure grown men get paid millions of dollars to throw balls around and Jeff Bezos can play astronaut who cares about kids, right?",
">\n\nKeep in mind if you're looking at that and going \"wow that's actually a good pay\" keep in mind this is New York City, one of the most expensive spots in the country to live in. I was a high school special education teacher there for five years (and lived there before with even lower paying jobs for 7-8 years). Even if you're at the upper level of that pay scale you're pretty much putting 50% of your income straight into rent, even if you live in a cheap area.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it’s not easy to live here.",
">\n\nDefinitely isn't. I lived there 2006-2019, ended up landing in Michigan after a brief stint in North Carolina, I'm happy I spent such a large chunk of formative adult years there (I moved there right after college) because as someone who grew up in a small, non-diverse New England rural town it was a huge contrast. These days though when people ask if I miss NYC my answer is \"all the things I miss I can get when I go visit\".",
">\n\nThere's nothing wrong with chicken and waffles on any day.",
">\n\nNo, but there's a huge fucking issue with serving watermelon to black students on the first day of BHM...you know, the actual issue.",
">\n\nWhere do you even get fresh watermelon from in February? It's not in season until the end of summer.",
">\n\nLikely grown in south America somewhere.",
">\n\nThe one I got over the weekend said it came from Chile.",
">\n\nApologize for what. This is stupid.",
">\n\nThey changed the menu to serve Chicken and Waffles and Watermelon in honor of BHM.",
">\n\nTo be fair, per the article...\n\n\"While our menu was not intended as a cultural meal, we acknowledge that the timing was inappropriate, and our team should have been more thoughtful in its service,\" the Aramark statement said.\n\nHowever...\n\nAramark has found itself in similar situations in years past, including an incident in 2011 where UC California-Irvine, an Aramark client, was criticized for serving a \"MLH Holiday Special\" that featured chicken and waffles.\n\nSo, yeah, there's something rotten in Aramark.",
">\n\nI love what you did there.",
">\n\nChicken and waffles is fucking awesome",
">\n\nChicken and Waffles do not go with watermelon. That’s the issue. This was intentionally a racist joke.",
">\n\nAt this point the motivation was to be entirely racist. Nobody is going to believe anyone they didn’t know.",
">\n\nCan't believe if I'll be forced to not eat any of those on Black History Month.",
">\n\nexactly the shit only whites can be offended about in the name of others. no sane men should deny gods gift of chicken and waffles whatever the occasion.\nit may be a stereotype you recognize for racism, but it also, is fucking delicious.",
">\n\n\nIt's a stupid stereotype that's not even actually racist.\n\nExcept it IS a racist stereotype, has been for centuries, and continues to be so.\nJust because you don't like that it is, doesn't change that fact.\nAdditionally, no one uses the foods of the cultures you presented as a negative facet of their identity...and in fact this is the EXACT argument you see racist people use to say \"it's ok\" to be shitty towards black people.",
">\n\nI'm not explaining something to someone making obviously inflammatory commentary in bad faith. You know the issue isn't with chicken and waffles specifically, as it's been pointed out COUNTLESS times throughout this comment section. It's the inclusion of watermelon, a known negative stereotype.\nYou being ignorant of history isn't anyone's problem, but yours.\nAs for the rest of this tantrum?\nOk, 🤡.\nEdit: Imagine that. Blocking me after making a comment...sorry, throwing a tantrum. Comment:\n\nThe only one doing anything here in bad faith is the one with their silly clown emojis who refuses to support their point and instead prefers to sling mud.\n\nMy reply:\nYou came in here, making wildly racist claims about a topic you're obviously ignorant on, you double down on the racism and ignorance, and when called out and treated with the same respect as you have shown to others...you go into toddler mode.\nNah, I think I'm pretty fucking spot on with my assessment of you.",
">\n\nI'm personally offended that \na. we are eaten\nb. people are offended because we are eaten",
">\n\nSir, you have a license to cluck.",
">\n\nI can understand where they're coming from but as a (former) southerner you should never have to apologize for chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nagreed. if they are good. now bad... then yeah...",
">\n\n... Until it's realized all the cooks are black. \nAh, narrative shift, nothing to see here",
">\n\nTell that to the black student who was upset being served watermelon then.",
">\n\nWould it be ok on the 17th ?",
">\n\nOne of my few bright memories from elementary school were of getting to eat different foods from different places during holidays and what not. I'll never be able to eat another latke again, but, I digest,it seems like a foolhardy thing to get pissy about. It's a lot better than my Norwegian ass serving Lutefisk.",
">\n\nYou can make latkes, it's pretty easy",
">\n\nI’m white and grew in the south, personally I have a hard time understanding how this is wrong. Literally everyone besides probably the vegans moving from California love fried foods, for fucks sake some of the most popular items at the Texas State Fair have been fried candy bars and fried BUTTER. I literally eat fried chicken and waffles a few times a month and that’s because I’m on a diet and am trying to lose weight. When I was a kid when they were in season we literally used to go through at least one watermelon a week and I’m not taking about those small snack size ones. Pro tip if you have a waffle maker; cornbread waffles. Enough said… The only thing they were missing was fried okra which is the only side dish anyone ever needs.\nAlso not every stereotype has to have a negative connotation. I’m Jewish and most of us like stereotypical foods. When I was a kid and went to shul after the service there would usually be a spread with bagels, schmear, sometimes lox, kugel, gefilte fish (absolutely disgusting), and when we were really lucky a cholent.",
">\n\nIt’s the watermelon 🍉 and the chicken 🍗 combination that is offensive. Not the chicken and waffles part. Weird headline.",
">\n\nThey're mad because it should be a weekly menu item!",
">\n\nHold the phone. Aren't waffles like European? Explain like i'm five how waffles are racist while I make me a Belgian waffle with lingonberry and whipped cream. Hold the phone again. Nutella and whipped cream. (Don't have any lingonberries handy) Ok, now explain.",
">\n\nIt’s a stereotype that black people like friend chicken. Also they served watermelon. Which is stereotypically associated being enjoyed by blavk people.\nIt’s sort of like having turkish week and serving shishkabob, indian week and serving curry, greek week serving chicken fries and tzatziki and so on and so forth",
">\n\nWatermelon is not associated with being enjoyed by black people… everyone likes a watermelon on a summer day.",
">\n\nHow about you google it real quick, just to make sure",
">\n\nNo need to do so, I live in a country where most people are white and everyone likes watermelon anyway.",
">\n\nAbsurdly stupid association, made up by people who want to create conflicts for fun.\nEveryone likes watermelons, independent on skin colour.\nI would be happy for a slice of watermelon for lunch, and it has nothing to do with my race.",
">\n\nSure. Everyone likes it.\nBut you're literally ignoring that it was a stereotype for so long that we have newspaper cartoons 150 years old making fun of it.\nI agree it's a stupid association, but it's a real stereotype: even the Larry David bit is making fun of it.\n\"It's a stupid stereotype so it doesn't exist\" isn't the best take on it.",
">\n\nThis made-up “issue” takes attention away from real racism such as violence or doctors thinking black people feel less pain.",
">\n\nI don't think it was made up so much as just tone deaf.\nEveryone likes chicken and waffles.\nMaybe not doing it for a special Black history event seems like a reasonable compromise.",
">\n\nOnly offensive if they were shitty (which they probably were)",
">\n\nIsn't this an example of being racially sensitive (the good type of steriotype), as opposed to insensitive (the bad type)? That's a good thing!\nIt's like serving a man a steak on the first date. You're being sensitive to their gender by getting a positive steriotype right",
">\n\nThe issue isn't the chicken and waffles. It's the fact that it was served with watermelon.\nNuance is a thing.",
">\n\nI guess it’s only ok to stereotype food if there is a nationality behind it 🤣🤣🤣",
">\n\n\"How can we show black students we care this month? Ideas?\"\n\"We could reduce them to food stereotypes?\"\n\"Nailed it. Get to work.\"",
">\n\nIf done right, this could actually be pretty cool. Problem is, they'd never do it right."
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I'm just curious are black people complaining or are white people complaining for black people ?
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"What’s wrong with chicken and waffles?",
">\n\nThe problem is when someone responds to Black History Month by pushing stereotypes.\nOutside of context, nothing would be wrong.",
">\n\nis chicken and waffles a stereotype?\nI'm honestly asking. I've never heard of that.",
">\n\nIt had way less to do with Chicken and Waffles being served, and them serving it with watermelon.\nThey could have served it with any other fruit and it would be a non-issue.",
">\n\nChicken waffles and watermelon are all delicious. As a black person this seems kind of a hyperbolic complaint.\nI get the thought behind it but unless they served it in black face I don’t see the issue.\n😂",
">\n\nThe black students at the middle school took issue with it. That's where the push came from and it was specifically regarding adding watermelon to it.",
">\n\nIf the black kids took this at a dig at them, I should imagine it's not a school where they feel valued most other days either",
">\n\nHonoring Black History month by emphasizing stereotypes is pretty tone deaf.\nShit man, I will fuck up some chicken, waffles and watermelon. Just can't imagine someone thought that was a good idea for the first day of black history.",
">\n\nThis.",
">\n\nFor those asking what the problem is with chicken and waffles -\n\nThey served something different from what was planned for the day, and the meal is attached to stereotypes.\nThey went out of their way to serve a watermelon dessert, which has been confirmed as being an extremely rare item.\nThe company did something similar in 2018, and terminated employees who organized it, indicating there was at least something going on that shouldn't have occurred. [src]\nThey also had an issue in 2011 (I wasn't aware of it until reading this article, only the 2018 issue) with UC California-Irvine.\n\nIf it had already been planned and was a common meal, I don't think there'd have been an issue. But for them to change the planned meal on the first day of Black History Month and to include items that were outside the norm is a really bad look for the company and its employees at that school.\nIt's also telling that this is the third time (that we know of) that this has occurred with the same company.",
">\n\nWere green meals used to subjugate and disparage an entire race like watermelon was?\nWhat about pasta-stuffed pizza, or tacos? Either of those specifically used to disparage an entire race?\nNo? Then none of those examples compare.\nAww, what's wrong? Don't like being called out for using the argument racist people do?\nToo fucking bad.",
">\n\nNot the person you responded to, and I am still learning American history as I go. How did white Americans use watermelons to disparage black Americans?",
">\n\nThis is unacceptable! Under no circumstances should anyone ever apologize for serving chicken and waffles. The only acceptable apology is for not serving more chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nI worked in NYC schools for a while. What they should be apologizing for at most schools is serving a couple frozen processed chicken nuggets on a half-toasted eggo and calling it \"chicken and waffles\".",
">\n\nThat's not chicken and waffles! That's a being poor and just eating whatever you have in the freezer kind of meal.",
">\n\nI mean that's more or less the kind of budget public schools are working with. Not to mention that the people working in these kitchens are paid extremely poorly as well. Like 99% of problems in education in the USA, the solution is \"we need more money\". But hey as long as we can make sure grown men get paid millions of dollars to throw balls around and Jeff Bezos can play astronaut who cares about kids, right?",
">\n\nKeep in mind if you're looking at that and going \"wow that's actually a good pay\" keep in mind this is New York City, one of the most expensive spots in the country to live in. I was a high school special education teacher there for five years (and lived there before with even lower paying jobs for 7-8 years). Even if you're at the upper level of that pay scale you're pretty much putting 50% of your income straight into rent, even if you live in a cheap area.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it’s not easy to live here.",
">\n\nDefinitely isn't. I lived there 2006-2019, ended up landing in Michigan after a brief stint in North Carolina, I'm happy I spent such a large chunk of formative adult years there (I moved there right after college) because as someone who grew up in a small, non-diverse New England rural town it was a huge contrast. These days though when people ask if I miss NYC my answer is \"all the things I miss I can get when I go visit\".",
">\n\nThere's nothing wrong with chicken and waffles on any day.",
">\n\nNo, but there's a huge fucking issue with serving watermelon to black students on the first day of BHM...you know, the actual issue.",
">\n\nWhere do you even get fresh watermelon from in February? It's not in season until the end of summer.",
">\n\nLikely grown in south America somewhere.",
">\n\nThe one I got over the weekend said it came from Chile.",
">\n\nApologize for what. This is stupid.",
">\n\nThey changed the menu to serve Chicken and Waffles and Watermelon in honor of BHM.",
">\n\nTo be fair, per the article...\n\n\"While our menu was not intended as a cultural meal, we acknowledge that the timing was inappropriate, and our team should have been more thoughtful in its service,\" the Aramark statement said.\n\nHowever...\n\nAramark has found itself in similar situations in years past, including an incident in 2011 where UC California-Irvine, an Aramark client, was criticized for serving a \"MLH Holiday Special\" that featured chicken and waffles.\n\nSo, yeah, there's something rotten in Aramark.",
">\n\nI love what you did there.",
">\n\nChicken and waffles is fucking awesome",
">\n\nChicken and Waffles do not go with watermelon. That’s the issue. This was intentionally a racist joke.",
">\n\nAt this point the motivation was to be entirely racist. Nobody is going to believe anyone they didn’t know.",
">\n\nCan't believe if I'll be forced to not eat any of those on Black History Month.",
">\n\nexactly the shit only whites can be offended about in the name of others. no sane men should deny gods gift of chicken and waffles whatever the occasion.\nit may be a stereotype you recognize for racism, but it also, is fucking delicious.",
">\n\n\nIt's a stupid stereotype that's not even actually racist.\n\nExcept it IS a racist stereotype, has been for centuries, and continues to be so.\nJust because you don't like that it is, doesn't change that fact.\nAdditionally, no one uses the foods of the cultures you presented as a negative facet of their identity...and in fact this is the EXACT argument you see racist people use to say \"it's ok\" to be shitty towards black people.",
">\n\nI'm not explaining something to someone making obviously inflammatory commentary in bad faith. You know the issue isn't with chicken and waffles specifically, as it's been pointed out COUNTLESS times throughout this comment section. It's the inclusion of watermelon, a known negative stereotype.\nYou being ignorant of history isn't anyone's problem, but yours.\nAs for the rest of this tantrum?\nOk, 🤡.\nEdit: Imagine that. Blocking me after making a comment...sorry, throwing a tantrum. Comment:\n\nThe only one doing anything here in bad faith is the one with their silly clown emojis who refuses to support their point and instead prefers to sling mud.\n\nMy reply:\nYou came in here, making wildly racist claims about a topic you're obviously ignorant on, you double down on the racism and ignorance, and when called out and treated with the same respect as you have shown to others...you go into toddler mode.\nNah, I think I'm pretty fucking spot on with my assessment of you.",
">\n\nI'm personally offended that \na. we are eaten\nb. people are offended because we are eaten",
">\n\nSir, you have a license to cluck.",
">\n\nI can understand where they're coming from but as a (former) southerner you should never have to apologize for chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nagreed. if they are good. now bad... then yeah...",
">\n\n... Until it's realized all the cooks are black. \nAh, narrative shift, nothing to see here",
">\n\nTell that to the black student who was upset being served watermelon then.",
">\n\nWould it be ok on the 17th ?",
">\n\nOne of my few bright memories from elementary school were of getting to eat different foods from different places during holidays and what not. I'll never be able to eat another latke again, but, I digest,it seems like a foolhardy thing to get pissy about. It's a lot better than my Norwegian ass serving Lutefisk.",
">\n\nYou can make latkes, it's pretty easy",
">\n\nI’m white and grew in the south, personally I have a hard time understanding how this is wrong. Literally everyone besides probably the vegans moving from California love fried foods, for fucks sake some of the most popular items at the Texas State Fair have been fried candy bars and fried BUTTER. I literally eat fried chicken and waffles a few times a month and that’s because I’m on a diet and am trying to lose weight. When I was a kid when they were in season we literally used to go through at least one watermelon a week and I’m not taking about those small snack size ones. Pro tip if you have a waffle maker; cornbread waffles. Enough said… The only thing they were missing was fried okra which is the only side dish anyone ever needs.\nAlso not every stereotype has to have a negative connotation. I’m Jewish and most of us like stereotypical foods. When I was a kid and went to shul after the service there would usually be a spread with bagels, schmear, sometimes lox, kugel, gefilte fish (absolutely disgusting), and when we were really lucky a cholent.",
">\n\nIt’s the watermelon 🍉 and the chicken 🍗 combination that is offensive. Not the chicken and waffles part. Weird headline.",
">\n\nThey're mad because it should be a weekly menu item!",
">\n\nHold the phone. Aren't waffles like European? Explain like i'm five how waffles are racist while I make me a Belgian waffle with lingonberry and whipped cream. Hold the phone again. Nutella and whipped cream. (Don't have any lingonberries handy) Ok, now explain.",
">\n\nIt’s a stereotype that black people like friend chicken. Also they served watermelon. Which is stereotypically associated being enjoyed by blavk people.\nIt’s sort of like having turkish week and serving shishkabob, indian week and serving curry, greek week serving chicken fries and tzatziki and so on and so forth",
">\n\nWatermelon is not associated with being enjoyed by black people… everyone likes a watermelon on a summer day.",
">\n\nHow about you google it real quick, just to make sure",
">\n\nNo need to do so, I live in a country where most people are white and everyone likes watermelon anyway.",
">\n\nAbsurdly stupid association, made up by people who want to create conflicts for fun.\nEveryone likes watermelons, independent on skin colour.\nI would be happy for a slice of watermelon for lunch, and it has nothing to do with my race.",
">\n\nSure. Everyone likes it.\nBut you're literally ignoring that it was a stereotype for so long that we have newspaper cartoons 150 years old making fun of it.\nI agree it's a stupid association, but it's a real stereotype: even the Larry David bit is making fun of it.\n\"It's a stupid stereotype so it doesn't exist\" isn't the best take on it.",
">\n\nThis made-up “issue” takes attention away from real racism such as violence or doctors thinking black people feel less pain.",
">\n\nI don't think it was made up so much as just tone deaf.\nEveryone likes chicken and waffles.\nMaybe not doing it for a special Black history event seems like a reasonable compromise.",
">\n\nOnly offensive if they were shitty (which they probably were)",
">\n\nIsn't this an example of being racially sensitive (the good type of steriotype), as opposed to insensitive (the bad type)? That's a good thing!\nIt's like serving a man a steak on the first date. You're being sensitive to their gender by getting a positive steriotype right",
">\n\nThe issue isn't the chicken and waffles. It's the fact that it was served with watermelon.\nNuance is a thing.",
">\n\nI guess it’s only ok to stereotype food if there is a nationality behind it 🤣🤣🤣",
">\n\n\"How can we show black students we care this month? Ideas?\"\n\"We could reduce them to food stereotypes?\"\n\"Nailed it. Get to work.\"",
">\n\nIf done right, this could actually be pretty cool. Problem is, they'd never do it right.",
">\n\nImagine being this childish...then throwing blatant racism on top of it."
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A black sixth grade student complained.
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"What’s wrong with chicken and waffles?",
">\n\nThe problem is when someone responds to Black History Month by pushing stereotypes.\nOutside of context, nothing would be wrong.",
">\n\nis chicken and waffles a stereotype?\nI'm honestly asking. I've never heard of that.",
">\n\nIt had way less to do with Chicken and Waffles being served, and them serving it with watermelon.\nThey could have served it with any other fruit and it would be a non-issue.",
">\n\nChicken waffles and watermelon are all delicious. As a black person this seems kind of a hyperbolic complaint.\nI get the thought behind it but unless they served it in black face I don’t see the issue.\n😂",
">\n\nThe black students at the middle school took issue with it. That's where the push came from and it was specifically regarding adding watermelon to it.",
">\n\nIf the black kids took this at a dig at them, I should imagine it's not a school where they feel valued most other days either",
">\n\nHonoring Black History month by emphasizing stereotypes is pretty tone deaf.\nShit man, I will fuck up some chicken, waffles and watermelon. Just can't imagine someone thought that was a good idea for the first day of black history.",
">\n\nThis.",
">\n\nFor those asking what the problem is with chicken and waffles -\n\nThey served something different from what was planned for the day, and the meal is attached to stereotypes.\nThey went out of their way to serve a watermelon dessert, which has been confirmed as being an extremely rare item.\nThe company did something similar in 2018, and terminated employees who organized it, indicating there was at least something going on that shouldn't have occurred. [src]\nThey also had an issue in 2011 (I wasn't aware of it until reading this article, only the 2018 issue) with UC California-Irvine.\n\nIf it had already been planned and was a common meal, I don't think there'd have been an issue. But for them to change the planned meal on the first day of Black History Month and to include items that were outside the norm is a really bad look for the company and its employees at that school.\nIt's also telling that this is the third time (that we know of) that this has occurred with the same company.",
">\n\nWere green meals used to subjugate and disparage an entire race like watermelon was?\nWhat about pasta-stuffed pizza, or tacos? Either of those specifically used to disparage an entire race?\nNo? Then none of those examples compare.\nAww, what's wrong? Don't like being called out for using the argument racist people do?\nToo fucking bad.",
">\n\nNot the person you responded to, and I am still learning American history as I go. How did white Americans use watermelons to disparage black Americans?",
">\n\nThis is unacceptable! Under no circumstances should anyone ever apologize for serving chicken and waffles. The only acceptable apology is for not serving more chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nI worked in NYC schools for a while. What they should be apologizing for at most schools is serving a couple frozen processed chicken nuggets on a half-toasted eggo and calling it \"chicken and waffles\".",
">\n\nThat's not chicken and waffles! That's a being poor and just eating whatever you have in the freezer kind of meal.",
">\n\nI mean that's more or less the kind of budget public schools are working with. Not to mention that the people working in these kitchens are paid extremely poorly as well. Like 99% of problems in education in the USA, the solution is \"we need more money\". But hey as long as we can make sure grown men get paid millions of dollars to throw balls around and Jeff Bezos can play astronaut who cares about kids, right?",
">\n\nKeep in mind if you're looking at that and going \"wow that's actually a good pay\" keep in mind this is New York City, one of the most expensive spots in the country to live in. I was a high school special education teacher there for five years (and lived there before with even lower paying jobs for 7-8 years). Even if you're at the upper level of that pay scale you're pretty much putting 50% of your income straight into rent, even if you live in a cheap area.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it’s not easy to live here.",
">\n\nDefinitely isn't. I lived there 2006-2019, ended up landing in Michigan after a brief stint in North Carolina, I'm happy I spent such a large chunk of formative adult years there (I moved there right after college) because as someone who grew up in a small, non-diverse New England rural town it was a huge contrast. These days though when people ask if I miss NYC my answer is \"all the things I miss I can get when I go visit\".",
">\n\nThere's nothing wrong with chicken and waffles on any day.",
">\n\nNo, but there's a huge fucking issue with serving watermelon to black students on the first day of BHM...you know, the actual issue.",
">\n\nWhere do you even get fresh watermelon from in February? It's not in season until the end of summer.",
">\n\nLikely grown in south America somewhere.",
">\n\nThe one I got over the weekend said it came from Chile.",
">\n\nApologize for what. This is stupid.",
">\n\nThey changed the menu to serve Chicken and Waffles and Watermelon in honor of BHM.",
">\n\nTo be fair, per the article...\n\n\"While our menu was not intended as a cultural meal, we acknowledge that the timing was inappropriate, and our team should have been more thoughtful in its service,\" the Aramark statement said.\n\nHowever...\n\nAramark has found itself in similar situations in years past, including an incident in 2011 where UC California-Irvine, an Aramark client, was criticized for serving a \"MLH Holiday Special\" that featured chicken and waffles.\n\nSo, yeah, there's something rotten in Aramark.",
">\n\nI love what you did there.",
">\n\nChicken and waffles is fucking awesome",
">\n\nChicken and Waffles do not go with watermelon. That’s the issue. This was intentionally a racist joke.",
">\n\nAt this point the motivation was to be entirely racist. Nobody is going to believe anyone they didn’t know.",
">\n\nCan't believe if I'll be forced to not eat any of those on Black History Month.",
">\n\nexactly the shit only whites can be offended about in the name of others. no sane men should deny gods gift of chicken and waffles whatever the occasion.\nit may be a stereotype you recognize for racism, but it also, is fucking delicious.",
">\n\n\nIt's a stupid stereotype that's not even actually racist.\n\nExcept it IS a racist stereotype, has been for centuries, and continues to be so.\nJust because you don't like that it is, doesn't change that fact.\nAdditionally, no one uses the foods of the cultures you presented as a negative facet of their identity...and in fact this is the EXACT argument you see racist people use to say \"it's ok\" to be shitty towards black people.",
">\n\nI'm not explaining something to someone making obviously inflammatory commentary in bad faith. You know the issue isn't with chicken and waffles specifically, as it's been pointed out COUNTLESS times throughout this comment section. It's the inclusion of watermelon, a known negative stereotype.\nYou being ignorant of history isn't anyone's problem, but yours.\nAs for the rest of this tantrum?\nOk, 🤡.\nEdit: Imagine that. Blocking me after making a comment...sorry, throwing a tantrum. Comment:\n\nThe only one doing anything here in bad faith is the one with their silly clown emojis who refuses to support their point and instead prefers to sling mud.\n\nMy reply:\nYou came in here, making wildly racist claims about a topic you're obviously ignorant on, you double down on the racism and ignorance, and when called out and treated with the same respect as you have shown to others...you go into toddler mode.\nNah, I think I'm pretty fucking spot on with my assessment of you.",
">\n\nI'm personally offended that \na. we are eaten\nb. people are offended because we are eaten",
">\n\nSir, you have a license to cluck.",
">\n\nI can understand where they're coming from but as a (former) southerner you should never have to apologize for chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nagreed. if they are good. now bad... then yeah...",
">\n\n... Until it's realized all the cooks are black. \nAh, narrative shift, nothing to see here",
">\n\nTell that to the black student who was upset being served watermelon then.",
">\n\nWould it be ok on the 17th ?",
">\n\nOne of my few bright memories from elementary school were of getting to eat different foods from different places during holidays and what not. I'll never be able to eat another latke again, but, I digest,it seems like a foolhardy thing to get pissy about. It's a lot better than my Norwegian ass serving Lutefisk.",
">\n\nYou can make latkes, it's pretty easy",
">\n\nI’m white and grew in the south, personally I have a hard time understanding how this is wrong. Literally everyone besides probably the vegans moving from California love fried foods, for fucks sake some of the most popular items at the Texas State Fair have been fried candy bars and fried BUTTER. I literally eat fried chicken and waffles a few times a month and that’s because I’m on a diet and am trying to lose weight. When I was a kid when they were in season we literally used to go through at least one watermelon a week and I’m not taking about those small snack size ones. Pro tip if you have a waffle maker; cornbread waffles. Enough said… The only thing they were missing was fried okra which is the only side dish anyone ever needs.\nAlso not every stereotype has to have a negative connotation. I’m Jewish and most of us like stereotypical foods. When I was a kid and went to shul after the service there would usually be a spread with bagels, schmear, sometimes lox, kugel, gefilte fish (absolutely disgusting), and when we were really lucky a cholent.",
">\n\nIt’s the watermelon 🍉 and the chicken 🍗 combination that is offensive. Not the chicken and waffles part. Weird headline.",
">\n\nThey're mad because it should be a weekly menu item!",
">\n\nHold the phone. Aren't waffles like European? Explain like i'm five how waffles are racist while I make me a Belgian waffle with lingonberry and whipped cream. Hold the phone again. Nutella and whipped cream. (Don't have any lingonberries handy) Ok, now explain.",
">\n\nIt’s a stereotype that black people like friend chicken. Also they served watermelon. Which is stereotypically associated being enjoyed by blavk people.\nIt’s sort of like having turkish week and serving shishkabob, indian week and serving curry, greek week serving chicken fries and tzatziki and so on and so forth",
">\n\nWatermelon is not associated with being enjoyed by black people… everyone likes a watermelon on a summer day.",
">\n\nHow about you google it real quick, just to make sure",
">\n\nNo need to do so, I live in a country where most people are white and everyone likes watermelon anyway.",
">\n\nAbsurdly stupid association, made up by people who want to create conflicts for fun.\nEveryone likes watermelons, independent on skin colour.\nI would be happy for a slice of watermelon for lunch, and it has nothing to do with my race.",
">\n\nSure. Everyone likes it.\nBut you're literally ignoring that it was a stereotype for so long that we have newspaper cartoons 150 years old making fun of it.\nI agree it's a stupid association, but it's a real stereotype: even the Larry David bit is making fun of it.\n\"It's a stupid stereotype so it doesn't exist\" isn't the best take on it.",
">\n\nThis made-up “issue” takes attention away from real racism such as violence or doctors thinking black people feel less pain.",
">\n\nI don't think it was made up so much as just tone deaf.\nEveryone likes chicken and waffles.\nMaybe not doing it for a special Black history event seems like a reasonable compromise.",
">\n\nOnly offensive if they were shitty (which they probably were)",
">\n\nIsn't this an example of being racially sensitive (the good type of steriotype), as opposed to insensitive (the bad type)? That's a good thing!\nIt's like serving a man a steak on the first date. You're being sensitive to their gender by getting a positive steriotype right",
">\n\nThe issue isn't the chicken and waffles. It's the fact that it was served with watermelon.\nNuance is a thing.",
">\n\nI guess it’s only ok to stereotype food if there is a nationality behind it 🤣🤣🤣",
">\n\n\"How can we show black students we care this month? Ideas?\"\n\"We could reduce them to food stereotypes?\"\n\"Nailed it. Get to work.\"",
">\n\nIf done right, this could actually be pretty cool. Problem is, they'd never do it right.",
">\n\nImagine being this childish...then throwing blatant racism on top of it.",
">\n\nI'm just curious are black people complaining or are white people complaining for black people ?"
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It never fails, racists love to do this type of shit, especially during black history month.
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"What’s wrong with chicken and waffles?",
">\n\nThe problem is when someone responds to Black History Month by pushing stereotypes.\nOutside of context, nothing would be wrong.",
">\n\nis chicken and waffles a stereotype?\nI'm honestly asking. I've never heard of that.",
">\n\nIt had way less to do with Chicken and Waffles being served, and them serving it with watermelon.\nThey could have served it with any other fruit and it would be a non-issue.",
">\n\nChicken waffles and watermelon are all delicious. As a black person this seems kind of a hyperbolic complaint.\nI get the thought behind it but unless they served it in black face I don’t see the issue.\n😂",
">\n\nThe black students at the middle school took issue with it. That's where the push came from and it was specifically regarding adding watermelon to it.",
">\n\nIf the black kids took this at a dig at them, I should imagine it's not a school where they feel valued most other days either",
">\n\nHonoring Black History month by emphasizing stereotypes is pretty tone deaf.\nShit man, I will fuck up some chicken, waffles and watermelon. Just can't imagine someone thought that was a good idea for the first day of black history.",
">\n\nThis.",
">\n\nFor those asking what the problem is with chicken and waffles -\n\nThey served something different from what was planned for the day, and the meal is attached to stereotypes.\nThey went out of their way to serve a watermelon dessert, which has been confirmed as being an extremely rare item.\nThe company did something similar in 2018, and terminated employees who organized it, indicating there was at least something going on that shouldn't have occurred. [src]\nThey also had an issue in 2011 (I wasn't aware of it until reading this article, only the 2018 issue) with UC California-Irvine.\n\nIf it had already been planned and was a common meal, I don't think there'd have been an issue. But for them to change the planned meal on the first day of Black History Month and to include items that were outside the norm is a really bad look for the company and its employees at that school.\nIt's also telling that this is the third time (that we know of) that this has occurred with the same company.",
">\n\nWere green meals used to subjugate and disparage an entire race like watermelon was?\nWhat about pasta-stuffed pizza, or tacos? Either of those specifically used to disparage an entire race?\nNo? Then none of those examples compare.\nAww, what's wrong? Don't like being called out for using the argument racist people do?\nToo fucking bad.",
">\n\nNot the person you responded to, and I am still learning American history as I go. How did white Americans use watermelons to disparage black Americans?",
">\n\nThis is unacceptable! Under no circumstances should anyone ever apologize for serving chicken and waffles. The only acceptable apology is for not serving more chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nI worked in NYC schools for a while. What they should be apologizing for at most schools is serving a couple frozen processed chicken nuggets on a half-toasted eggo and calling it \"chicken and waffles\".",
">\n\nThat's not chicken and waffles! That's a being poor and just eating whatever you have in the freezer kind of meal.",
">\n\nI mean that's more or less the kind of budget public schools are working with. Not to mention that the people working in these kitchens are paid extremely poorly as well. Like 99% of problems in education in the USA, the solution is \"we need more money\". But hey as long as we can make sure grown men get paid millions of dollars to throw balls around and Jeff Bezos can play astronaut who cares about kids, right?",
">\n\nKeep in mind if you're looking at that and going \"wow that's actually a good pay\" keep in mind this is New York City, one of the most expensive spots in the country to live in. I was a high school special education teacher there for five years (and lived there before with even lower paying jobs for 7-8 years). Even if you're at the upper level of that pay scale you're pretty much putting 50% of your income straight into rent, even if you live in a cheap area.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it’s not easy to live here.",
">\n\nDefinitely isn't. I lived there 2006-2019, ended up landing in Michigan after a brief stint in North Carolina, I'm happy I spent such a large chunk of formative adult years there (I moved there right after college) because as someone who grew up in a small, non-diverse New England rural town it was a huge contrast. These days though when people ask if I miss NYC my answer is \"all the things I miss I can get when I go visit\".",
">\n\nThere's nothing wrong with chicken and waffles on any day.",
">\n\nNo, but there's a huge fucking issue with serving watermelon to black students on the first day of BHM...you know, the actual issue.",
">\n\nWhere do you even get fresh watermelon from in February? It's not in season until the end of summer.",
">\n\nLikely grown in south America somewhere.",
">\n\nThe one I got over the weekend said it came from Chile.",
">\n\nApologize for what. This is stupid.",
">\n\nThey changed the menu to serve Chicken and Waffles and Watermelon in honor of BHM.",
">\n\nTo be fair, per the article...\n\n\"While our menu was not intended as a cultural meal, we acknowledge that the timing was inappropriate, and our team should have been more thoughtful in its service,\" the Aramark statement said.\n\nHowever...\n\nAramark has found itself in similar situations in years past, including an incident in 2011 where UC California-Irvine, an Aramark client, was criticized for serving a \"MLH Holiday Special\" that featured chicken and waffles.\n\nSo, yeah, there's something rotten in Aramark.",
">\n\nI love what you did there.",
">\n\nChicken and waffles is fucking awesome",
">\n\nChicken and Waffles do not go with watermelon. That’s the issue. This was intentionally a racist joke.",
">\n\nAt this point the motivation was to be entirely racist. Nobody is going to believe anyone they didn’t know.",
">\n\nCan't believe if I'll be forced to not eat any of those on Black History Month.",
">\n\nexactly the shit only whites can be offended about in the name of others. no sane men should deny gods gift of chicken and waffles whatever the occasion.\nit may be a stereotype you recognize for racism, but it also, is fucking delicious.",
">\n\n\nIt's a stupid stereotype that's not even actually racist.\n\nExcept it IS a racist stereotype, has been for centuries, and continues to be so.\nJust because you don't like that it is, doesn't change that fact.\nAdditionally, no one uses the foods of the cultures you presented as a negative facet of their identity...and in fact this is the EXACT argument you see racist people use to say \"it's ok\" to be shitty towards black people.",
">\n\nI'm not explaining something to someone making obviously inflammatory commentary in bad faith. You know the issue isn't with chicken and waffles specifically, as it's been pointed out COUNTLESS times throughout this comment section. It's the inclusion of watermelon, a known negative stereotype.\nYou being ignorant of history isn't anyone's problem, but yours.\nAs for the rest of this tantrum?\nOk, 🤡.\nEdit: Imagine that. Blocking me after making a comment...sorry, throwing a tantrum. Comment:\n\nThe only one doing anything here in bad faith is the one with their silly clown emojis who refuses to support their point and instead prefers to sling mud.\n\nMy reply:\nYou came in here, making wildly racist claims about a topic you're obviously ignorant on, you double down on the racism and ignorance, and when called out and treated with the same respect as you have shown to others...you go into toddler mode.\nNah, I think I'm pretty fucking spot on with my assessment of you.",
">\n\nI'm personally offended that \na. we are eaten\nb. people are offended because we are eaten",
">\n\nSir, you have a license to cluck.",
">\n\nI can understand where they're coming from but as a (former) southerner you should never have to apologize for chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nagreed. if they are good. now bad... then yeah...",
">\n\n... Until it's realized all the cooks are black. \nAh, narrative shift, nothing to see here",
">\n\nTell that to the black student who was upset being served watermelon then.",
">\n\nWould it be ok on the 17th ?",
">\n\nOne of my few bright memories from elementary school were of getting to eat different foods from different places during holidays and what not. I'll never be able to eat another latke again, but, I digest,it seems like a foolhardy thing to get pissy about. It's a lot better than my Norwegian ass serving Lutefisk.",
">\n\nYou can make latkes, it's pretty easy",
">\n\nI’m white and grew in the south, personally I have a hard time understanding how this is wrong. Literally everyone besides probably the vegans moving from California love fried foods, for fucks sake some of the most popular items at the Texas State Fair have been fried candy bars and fried BUTTER. I literally eat fried chicken and waffles a few times a month and that’s because I’m on a diet and am trying to lose weight. When I was a kid when they were in season we literally used to go through at least one watermelon a week and I’m not taking about those small snack size ones. Pro tip if you have a waffle maker; cornbread waffles. Enough said… The only thing they were missing was fried okra which is the only side dish anyone ever needs.\nAlso not every stereotype has to have a negative connotation. I’m Jewish and most of us like stereotypical foods. When I was a kid and went to shul after the service there would usually be a spread with bagels, schmear, sometimes lox, kugel, gefilte fish (absolutely disgusting), and when we were really lucky a cholent.",
">\n\nIt’s the watermelon 🍉 and the chicken 🍗 combination that is offensive. Not the chicken and waffles part. Weird headline.",
">\n\nThey're mad because it should be a weekly menu item!",
">\n\nHold the phone. Aren't waffles like European? Explain like i'm five how waffles are racist while I make me a Belgian waffle with lingonberry and whipped cream. Hold the phone again. Nutella and whipped cream. (Don't have any lingonberries handy) Ok, now explain.",
">\n\nIt’s a stereotype that black people like friend chicken. Also they served watermelon. Which is stereotypically associated being enjoyed by blavk people.\nIt’s sort of like having turkish week and serving shishkabob, indian week and serving curry, greek week serving chicken fries and tzatziki and so on and so forth",
">\n\nWatermelon is not associated with being enjoyed by black people… everyone likes a watermelon on a summer day.",
">\n\nHow about you google it real quick, just to make sure",
">\n\nNo need to do so, I live in a country where most people are white and everyone likes watermelon anyway.",
">\n\nAbsurdly stupid association, made up by people who want to create conflicts for fun.\nEveryone likes watermelons, independent on skin colour.\nI would be happy for a slice of watermelon for lunch, and it has nothing to do with my race.",
">\n\nSure. Everyone likes it.\nBut you're literally ignoring that it was a stereotype for so long that we have newspaper cartoons 150 years old making fun of it.\nI agree it's a stupid association, but it's a real stereotype: even the Larry David bit is making fun of it.\n\"It's a stupid stereotype so it doesn't exist\" isn't the best take on it.",
">\n\nThis made-up “issue” takes attention away from real racism such as violence or doctors thinking black people feel less pain.",
">\n\nI don't think it was made up so much as just tone deaf.\nEveryone likes chicken and waffles.\nMaybe not doing it for a special Black history event seems like a reasonable compromise.",
">\n\nOnly offensive if they were shitty (which they probably were)",
">\n\nIsn't this an example of being racially sensitive (the good type of steriotype), as opposed to insensitive (the bad type)? That's a good thing!\nIt's like serving a man a steak on the first date. You're being sensitive to their gender by getting a positive steriotype right",
">\n\nThe issue isn't the chicken and waffles. It's the fact that it was served with watermelon.\nNuance is a thing.",
">\n\nI guess it’s only ok to stereotype food if there is a nationality behind it 🤣🤣🤣",
">\n\n\"How can we show black students we care this month? Ideas?\"\n\"We could reduce them to food stereotypes?\"\n\"Nailed it. Get to work.\"",
">\n\nIf done right, this could actually be pretty cool. Problem is, they'd never do it right.",
">\n\nImagine being this childish...then throwing blatant racism on top of it.",
">\n\nI'm just curious are black people complaining or are white people complaining for black people ?",
">\n\nA black sixth grade student complained."
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It was the piss pumpkin that was the topping on the insult.
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"What’s wrong with chicken and waffles?",
">\n\nThe problem is when someone responds to Black History Month by pushing stereotypes.\nOutside of context, nothing would be wrong.",
">\n\nis chicken and waffles a stereotype?\nI'm honestly asking. I've never heard of that.",
">\n\nIt had way less to do with Chicken and Waffles being served, and them serving it with watermelon.\nThey could have served it with any other fruit and it would be a non-issue.",
">\n\nChicken waffles and watermelon are all delicious. As a black person this seems kind of a hyperbolic complaint.\nI get the thought behind it but unless they served it in black face I don’t see the issue.\n😂",
">\n\nThe black students at the middle school took issue with it. That's where the push came from and it was specifically regarding adding watermelon to it.",
">\n\nIf the black kids took this at a dig at them, I should imagine it's not a school where they feel valued most other days either",
">\n\nHonoring Black History month by emphasizing stereotypes is pretty tone deaf.\nShit man, I will fuck up some chicken, waffles and watermelon. Just can't imagine someone thought that was a good idea for the first day of black history.",
">\n\nThis.",
">\n\nFor those asking what the problem is with chicken and waffles -\n\nThey served something different from what was planned for the day, and the meal is attached to stereotypes.\nThey went out of their way to serve a watermelon dessert, which has been confirmed as being an extremely rare item.\nThe company did something similar in 2018, and terminated employees who organized it, indicating there was at least something going on that shouldn't have occurred. [src]\nThey also had an issue in 2011 (I wasn't aware of it until reading this article, only the 2018 issue) with UC California-Irvine.\n\nIf it had already been planned and was a common meal, I don't think there'd have been an issue. But for them to change the planned meal on the first day of Black History Month and to include items that were outside the norm is a really bad look for the company and its employees at that school.\nIt's also telling that this is the third time (that we know of) that this has occurred with the same company.",
">\n\nWere green meals used to subjugate and disparage an entire race like watermelon was?\nWhat about pasta-stuffed pizza, or tacos? Either of those specifically used to disparage an entire race?\nNo? Then none of those examples compare.\nAww, what's wrong? Don't like being called out for using the argument racist people do?\nToo fucking bad.",
">\n\nNot the person you responded to, and I am still learning American history as I go. How did white Americans use watermelons to disparage black Americans?",
">\n\nThis is unacceptable! Under no circumstances should anyone ever apologize for serving chicken and waffles. The only acceptable apology is for not serving more chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nI worked in NYC schools for a while. What they should be apologizing for at most schools is serving a couple frozen processed chicken nuggets on a half-toasted eggo and calling it \"chicken and waffles\".",
">\n\nThat's not chicken and waffles! That's a being poor and just eating whatever you have in the freezer kind of meal.",
">\n\nI mean that's more or less the kind of budget public schools are working with. Not to mention that the people working in these kitchens are paid extremely poorly as well. Like 99% of problems in education in the USA, the solution is \"we need more money\". But hey as long as we can make sure grown men get paid millions of dollars to throw balls around and Jeff Bezos can play astronaut who cares about kids, right?",
">\n\nKeep in mind if you're looking at that and going \"wow that's actually a good pay\" keep in mind this is New York City, one of the most expensive spots in the country to live in. I was a high school special education teacher there for five years (and lived there before with even lower paying jobs for 7-8 years). Even if you're at the upper level of that pay scale you're pretty much putting 50% of your income straight into rent, even if you live in a cheap area.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it’s not easy to live here.",
">\n\nDefinitely isn't. I lived there 2006-2019, ended up landing in Michigan after a brief stint in North Carolina, I'm happy I spent such a large chunk of formative adult years there (I moved there right after college) because as someone who grew up in a small, non-diverse New England rural town it was a huge contrast. These days though when people ask if I miss NYC my answer is \"all the things I miss I can get when I go visit\".",
">\n\nThere's nothing wrong with chicken and waffles on any day.",
">\n\nNo, but there's a huge fucking issue with serving watermelon to black students on the first day of BHM...you know, the actual issue.",
">\n\nWhere do you even get fresh watermelon from in February? It's not in season until the end of summer.",
">\n\nLikely grown in south America somewhere.",
">\n\nThe one I got over the weekend said it came from Chile.",
">\n\nApologize for what. This is stupid.",
">\n\nThey changed the menu to serve Chicken and Waffles and Watermelon in honor of BHM.",
">\n\nTo be fair, per the article...\n\n\"While our menu was not intended as a cultural meal, we acknowledge that the timing was inappropriate, and our team should have been more thoughtful in its service,\" the Aramark statement said.\n\nHowever...\n\nAramark has found itself in similar situations in years past, including an incident in 2011 where UC California-Irvine, an Aramark client, was criticized for serving a \"MLH Holiday Special\" that featured chicken and waffles.\n\nSo, yeah, there's something rotten in Aramark.",
">\n\nI love what you did there.",
">\n\nChicken and waffles is fucking awesome",
">\n\nChicken and Waffles do not go with watermelon. That’s the issue. This was intentionally a racist joke.",
">\n\nAt this point the motivation was to be entirely racist. Nobody is going to believe anyone they didn’t know.",
">\n\nCan't believe if I'll be forced to not eat any of those on Black History Month.",
">\n\nexactly the shit only whites can be offended about in the name of others. no sane men should deny gods gift of chicken and waffles whatever the occasion.\nit may be a stereotype you recognize for racism, but it also, is fucking delicious.",
">\n\n\nIt's a stupid stereotype that's not even actually racist.\n\nExcept it IS a racist stereotype, has been for centuries, and continues to be so.\nJust because you don't like that it is, doesn't change that fact.\nAdditionally, no one uses the foods of the cultures you presented as a negative facet of their identity...and in fact this is the EXACT argument you see racist people use to say \"it's ok\" to be shitty towards black people.",
">\n\nI'm not explaining something to someone making obviously inflammatory commentary in bad faith. You know the issue isn't with chicken and waffles specifically, as it's been pointed out COUNTLESS times throughout this comment section. It's the inclusion of watermelon, a known negative stereotype.\nYou being ignorant of history isn't anyone's problem, but yours.\nAs for the rest of this tantrum?\nOk, 🤡.\nEdit: Imagine that. Blocking me after making a comment...sorry, throwing a tantrum. Comment:\n\nThe only one doing anything here in bad faith is the one with their silly clown emojis who refuses to support their point and instead prefers to sling mud.\n\nMy reply:\nYou came in here, making wildly racist claims about a topic you're obviously ignorant on, you double down on the racism and ignorance, and when called out and treated with the same respect as you have shown to others...you go into toddler mode.\nNah, I think I'm pretty fucking spot on with my assessment of you.",
">\n\nI'm personally offended that \na. we are eaten\nb. people are offended because we are eaten",
">\n\nSir, you have a license to cluck.",
">\n\nI can understand where they're coming from but as a (former) southerner you should never have to apologize for chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nagreed. if they are good. now bad... then yeah...",
">\n\n... Until it's realized all the cooks are black. \nAh, narrative shift, nothing to see here",
">\n\nTell that to the black student who was upset being served watermelon then.",
">\n\nWould it be ok on the 17th ?",
">\n\nOne of my few bright memories from elementary school were of getting to eat different foods from different places during holidays and what not. I'll never be able to eat another latke again, but, I digest,it seems like a foolhardy thing to get pissy about. It's a lot better than my Norwegian ass serving Lutefisk.",
">\n\nYou can make latkes, it's pretty easy",
">\n\nI’m white and grew in the south, personally I have a hard time understanding how this is wrong. Literally everyone besides probably the vegans moving from California love fried foods, for fucks sake some of the most popular items at the Texas State Fair have been fried candy bars and fried BUTTER. I literally eat fried chicken and waffles a few times a month and that’s because I’m on a diet and am trying to lose weight. When I was a kid when they were in season we literally used to go through at least one watermelon a week and I’m not taking about those small snack size ones. Pro tip if you have a waffle maker; cornbread waffles. Enough said… The only thing they were missing was fried okra which is the only side dish anyone ever needs.\nAlso not every stereotype has to have a negative connotation. I’m Jewish and most of us like stereotypical foods. When I was a kid and went to shul after the service there would usually be a spread with bagels, schmear, sometimes lox, kugel, gefilte fish (absolutely disgusting), and when we were really lucky a cholent.",
">\n\nIt’s the watermelon 🍉 and the chicken 🍗 combination that is offensive. Not the chicken and waffles part. Weird headline.",
">\n\nThey're mad because it should be a weekly menu item!",
">\n\nHold the phone. Aren't waffles like European? Explain like i'm five how waffles are racist while I make me a Belgian waffle with lingonberry and whipped cream. Hold the phone again. Nutella and whipped cream. (Don't have any lingonberries handy) Ok, now explain.",
">\n\nIt’s a stereotype that black people like friend chicken. Also they served watermelon. Which is stereotypically associated being enjoyed by blavk people.\nIt’s sort of like having turkish week and serving shishkabob, indian week and serving curry, greek week serving chicken fries and tzatziki and so on and so forth",
">\n\nWatermelon is not associated with being enjoyed by black people… everyone likes a watermelon on a summer day.",
">\n\nHow about you google it real quick, just to make sure",
">\n\nNo need to do so, I live in a country where most people are white and everyone likes watermelon anyway.",
">\n\nAbsurdly stupid association, made up by people who want to create conflicts for fun.\nEveryone likes watermelons, independent on skin colour.\nI would be happy for a slice of watermelon for lunch, and it has nothing to do with my race.",
">\n\nSure. Everyone likes it.\nBut you're literally ignoring that it was a stereotype for so long that we have newspaper cartoons 150 years old making fun of it.\nI agree it's a stupid association, but it's a real stereotype: even the Larry David bit is making fun of it.\n\"It's a stupid stereotype so it doesn't exist\" isn't the best take on it.",
">\n\nThis made-up “issue” takes attention away from real racism such as violence or doctors thinking black people feel less pain.",
">\n\nI don't think it was made up so much as just tone deaf.\nEveryone likes chicken and waffles.\nMaybe not doing it for a special Black history event seems like a reasonable compromise.",
">\n\nOnly offensive if they were shitty (which they probably were)",
">\n\nIsn't this an example of being racially sensitive (the good type of steriotype), as opposed to insensitive (the bad type)? That's a good thing!\nIt's like serving a man a steak on the first date. You're being sensitive to their gender by getting a positive steriotype right",
">\n\nThe issue isn't the chicken and waffles. It's the fact that it was served with watermelon.\nNuance is a thing.",
">\n\nI guess it’s only ok to stereotype food if there is a nationality behind it 🤣🤣🤣",
">\n\n\"How can we show black students we care this month? Ideas?\"\n\"We could reduce them to food stereotypes?\"\n\"Nailed it. Get to work.\"",
">\n\nIf done right, this could actually be pretty cool. Problem is, they'd never do it right.",
">\n\nImagine being this childish...then throwing blatant racism on top of it.",
">\n\nI'm just curious are black people complaining or are white people complaining for black people ?",
">\n\nA black sixth grade student complained.",
">\n\nIt never fails, racists love to do this type of shit, especially during black history month."
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why?? its food.. stop being judgmental people..
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[
"What’s wrong with chicken and waffles?",
">\n\nThe problem is when someone responds to Black History Month by pushing stereotypes.\nOutside of context, nothing would be wrong.",
">\n\nis chicken and waffles a stereotype?\nI'm honestly asking. I've never heard of that.",
">\n\nIt had way less to do with Chicken and Waffles being served, and them serving it with watermelon.\nThey could have served it with any other fruit and it would be a non-issue.",
">\n\nChicken waffles and watermelon are all delicious. As a black person this seems kind of a hyperbolic complaint.\nI get the thought behind it but unless they served it in black face I don’t see the issue.\n😂",
">\n\nThe black students at the middle school took issue with it. That's where the push came from and it was specifically regarding adding watermelon to it.",
">\n\nIf the black kids took this at a dig at them, I should imagine it's not a school where they feel valued most other days either",
">\n\nHonoring Black History month by emphasizing stereotypes is pretty tone deaf.\nShit man, I will fuck up some chicken, waffles and watermelon. Just can't imagine someone thought that was a good idea for the first day of black history.",
">\n\nThis.",
">\n\nFor those asking what the problem is with chicken and waffles -\n\nThey served something different from what was planned for the day, and the meal is attached to stereotypes.\nThey went out of their way to serve a watermelon dessert, which has been confirmed as being an extremely rare item.\nThe company did something similar in 2018, and terminated employees who organized it, indicating there was at least something going on that shouldn't have occurred. [src]\nThey also had an issue in 2011 (I wasn't aware of it until reading this article, only the 2018 issue) with UC California-Irvine.\n\nIf it had already been planned and was a common meal, I don't think there'd have been an issue. But for them to change the planned meal on the first day of Black History Month and to include items that were outside the norm is a really bad look for the company and its employees at that school.\nIt's also telling that this is the third time (that we know of) that this has occurred with the same company.",
">\n\nWere green meals used to subjugate and disparage an entire race like watermelon was?\nWhat about pasta-stuffed pizza, or tacos? Either of those specifically used to disparage an entire race?\nNo? Then none of those examples compare.\nAww, what's wrong? Don't like being called out for using the argument racist people do?\nToo fucking bad.",
">\n\nNot the person you responded to, and I am still learning American history as I go. How did white Americans use watermelons to disparage black Americans?",
">\n\nThis is unacceptable! Under no circumstances should anyone ever apologize for serving chicken and waffles. The only acceptable apology is for not serving more chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nI worked in NYC schools for a while. What they should be apologizing for at most schools is serving a couple frozen processed chicken nuggets on a half-toasted eggo and calling it \"chicken and waffles\".",
">\n\nThat's not chicken and waffles! That's a being poor and just eating whatever you have in the freezer kind of meal.",
">\n\nI mean that's more or less the kind of budget public schools are working with. Not to mention that the people working in these kitchens are paid extremely poorly as well. Like 99% of problems in education in the USA, the solution is \"we need more money\". But hey as long as we can make sure grown men get paid millions of dollars to throw balls around and Jeff Bezos can play astronaut who cares about kids, right?",
">\n\nKeep in mind if you're looking at that and going \"wow that's actually a good pay\" keep in mind this is New York City, one of the most expensive spots in the country to live in. I was a high school special education teacher there for five years (and lived there before with even lower paying jobs for 7-8 years). Even if you're at the upper level of that pay scale you're pretty much putting 50% of your income straight into rent, even if you live in a cheap area.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it’s not easy to live here.",
">\n\nDefinitely isn't. I lived there 2006-2019, ended up landing in Michigan after a brief stint in North Carolina, I'm happy I spent such a large chunk of formative adult years there (I moved there right after college) because as someone who grew up in a small, non-diverse New England rural town it was a huge contrast. These days though when people ask if I miss NYC my answer is \"all the things I miss I can get when I go visit\".",
">\n\nThere's nothing wrong with chicken and waffles on any day.",
">\n\nNo, but there's a huge fucking issue with serving watermelon to black students on the first day of BHM...you know, the actual issue.",
">\n\nWhere do you even get fresh watermelon from in February? It's not in season until the end of summer.",
">\n\nLikely grown in south America somewhere.",
">\n\nThe one I got over the weekend said it came from Chile.",
">\n\nApologize for what. This is stupid.",
">\n\nThey changed the menu to serve Chicken and Waffles and Watermelon in honor of BHM.",
">\n\nTo be fair, per the article...\n\n\"While our menu was not intended as a cultural meal, we acknowledge that the timing was inappropriate, and our team should have been more thoughtful in its service,\" the Aramark statement said.\n\nHowever...\n\nAramark has found itself in similar situations in years past, including an incident in 2011 where UC California-Irvine, an Aramark client, was criticized for serving a \"MLH Holiday Special\" that featured chicken and waffles.\n\nSo, yeah, there's something rotten in Aramark.",
">\n\nI love what you did there.",
">\n\nChicken and waffles is fucking awesome",
">\n\nChicken and Waffles do not go with watermelon. That’s the issue. This was intentionally a racist joke.",
">\n\nAt this point the motivation was to be entirely racist. Nobody is going to believe anyone they didn’t know.",
">\n\nCan't believe if I'll be forced to not eat any of those on Black History Month.",
">\n\nexactly the shit only whites can be offended about in the name of others. no sane men should deny gods gift of chicken and waffles whatever the occasion.\nit may be a stereotype you recognize for racism, but it also, is fucking delicious.",
">\n\n\nIt's a stupid stereotype that's not even actually racist.\n\nExcept it IS a racist stereotype, has been for centuries, and continues to be so.\nJust because you don't like that it is, doesn't change that fact.\nAdditionally, no one uses the foods of the cultures you presented as a negative facet of their identity...and in fact this is the EXACT argument you see racist people use to say \"it's ok\" to be shitty towards black people.",
">\n\nI'm not explaining something to someone making obviously inflammatory commentary in bad faith. You know the issue isn't with chicken and waffles specifically, as it's been pointed out COUNTLESS times throughout this comment section. It's the inclusion of watermelon, a known negative stereotype.\nYou being ignorant of history isn't anyone's problem, but yours.\nAs for the rest of this tantrum?\nOk, 🤡.\nEdit: Imagine that. Blocking me after making a comment...sorry, throwing a tantrum. Comment:\n\nThe only one doing anything here in bad faith is the one with their silly clown emojis who refuses to support their point and instead prefers to sling mud.\n\nMy reply:\nYou came in here, making wildly racist claims about a topic you're obviously ignorant on, you double down on the racism and ignorance, and when called out and treated with the same respect as you have shown to others...you go into toddler mode.\nNah, I think I'm pretty fucking spot on with my assessment of you.",
">\n\nI'm personally offended that \na. we are eaten\nb. people are offended because we are eaten",
">\n\nSir, you have a license to cluck.",
">\n\nI can understand where they're coming from but as a (former) southerner you should never have to apologize for chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nagreed. if they are good. now bad... then yeah...",
">\n\n... Until it's realized all the cooks are black. \nAh, narrative shift, nothing to see here",
">\n\nTell that to the black student who was upset being served watermelon then.",
">\n\nWould it be ok on the 17th ?",
">\n\nOne of my few bright memories from elementary school were of getting to eat different foods from different places during holidays and what not. I'll never be able to eat another latke again, but, I digest,it seems like a foolhardy thing to get pissy about. It's a lot better than my Norwegian ass serving Lutefisk.",
">\n\nYou can make latkes, it's pretty easy",
">\n\nI’m white and grew in the south, personally I have a hard time understanding how this is wrong. Literally everyone besides probably the vegans moving from California love fried foods, for fucks sake some of the most popular items at the Texas State Fair have been fried candy bars and fried BUTTER. I literally eat fried chicken and waffles a few times a month and that’s because I’m on a diet and am trying to lose weight. When I was a kid when they were in season we literally used to go through at least one watermelon a week and I’m not taking about those small snack size ones. Pro tip if you have a waffle maker; cornbread waffles. Enough said… The only thing they were missing was fried okra which is the only side dish anyone ever needs.\nAlso not every stereotype has to have a negative connotation. I’m Jewish and most of us like stereotypical foods. When I was a kid and went to shul after the service there would usually be a spread with bagels, schmear, sometimes lox, kugel, gefilte fish (absolutely disgusting), and when we were really lucky a cholent.",
">\n\nIt’s the watermelon 🍉 and the chicken 🍗 combination that is offensive. Not the chicken and waffles part. Weird headline.",
">\n\nThey're mad because it should be a weekly menu item!",
">\n\nHold the phone. Aren't waffles like European? Explain like i'm five how waffles are racist while I make me a Belgian waffle with lingonberry and whipped cream. Hold the phone again. Nutella and whipped cream. (Don't have any lingonberries handy) Ok, now explain.",
">\n\nIt’s a stereotype that black people like friend chicken. Also they served watermelon. Which is stereotypically associated being enjoyed by blavk people.\nIt’s sort of like having turkish week and serving shishkabob, indian week and serving curry, greek week serving chicken fries and tzatziki and so on and so forth",
">\n\nWatermelon is not associated with being enjoyed by black people… everyone likes a watermelon on a summer day.",
">\n\nHow about you google it real quick, just to make sure",
">\n\nNo need to do so, I live in a country where most people are white and everyone likes watermelon anyway.",
">\n\nAbsurdly stupid association, made up by people who want to create conflicts for fun.\nEveryone likes watermelons, independent on skin colour.\nI would be happy for a slice of watermelon for lunch, and it has nothing to do with my race.",
">\n\nSure. Everyone likes it.\nBut you're literally ignoring that it was a stereotype for so long that we have newspaper cartoons 150 years old making fun of it.\nI agree it's a stupid association, but it's a real stereotype: even the Larry David bit is making fun of it.\n\"It's a stupid stereotype so it doesn't exist\" isn't the best take on it.",
">\n\nThis made-up “issue” takes attention away from real racism such as violence or doctors thinking black people feel less pain.",
">\n\nI don't think it was made up so much as just tone deaf.\nEveryone likes chicken and waffles.\nMaybe not doing it for a special Black history event seems like a reasonable compromise.",
">\n\nOnly offensive if they were shitty (which they probably were)",
">\n\nIsn't this an example of being racially sensitive (the good type of steriotype), as opposed to insensitive (the bad type)? That's a good thing!\nIt's like serving a man a steak on the first date. You're being sensitive to their gender by getting a positive steriotype right",
">\n\nThe issue isn't the chicken and waffles. It's the fact that it was served with watermelon.\nNuance is a thing.",
">\n\nI guess it’s only ok to stereotype food if there is a nationality behind it 🤣🤣🤣",
">\n\n\"How can we show black students we care this month? Ideas?\"\n\"We could reduce them to food stereotypes?\"\n\"Nailed it. Get to work.\"",
">\n\nIf done right, this could actually be pretty cool. Problem is, they'd never do it right.",
">\n\nImagine being this childish...then throwing blatant racism on top of it.",
">\n\nI'm just curious are black people complaining or are white people complaining for black people ?",
">\n\nA black sixth grade student complained.",
">\n\nIt never fails, racists love to do this type of shit, especially during black history month.",
">\n\nIt was the piss pumpkin that was the topping on the insult."
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Silly. I mean, c'mon, we got major global issues going on, & someone's getting butt hurt over chicken, waffles & watermelon. Sounds good to me!!
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"What’s wrong with chicken and waffles?",
">\n\nThe problem is when someone responds to Black History Month by pushing stereotypes.\nOutside of context, nothing would be wrong.",
">\n\nis chicken and waffles a stereotype?\nI'm honestly asking. I've never heard of that.",
">\n\nIt had way less to do with Chicken and Waffles being served, and them serving it with watermelon.\nThey could have served it with any other fruit and it would be a non-issue.",
">\n\nChicken waffles and watermelon are all delicious. As a black person this seems kind of a hyperbolic complaint.\nI get the thought behind it but unless they served it in black face I don’t see the issue.\n😂",
">\n\nThe black students at the middle school took issue with it. That's where the push came from and it was specifically regarding adding watermelon to it.",
">\n\nIf the black kids took this at a dig at them, I should imagine it's not a school where they feel valued most other days either",
">\n\nHonoring Black History month by emphasizing stereotypes is pretty tone deaf.\nShit man, I will fuck up some chicken, waffles and watermelon. Just can't imagine someone thought that was a good idea for the first day of black history.",
">\n\nThis.",
">\n\nFor those asking what the problem is with chicken and waffles -\n\nThey served something different from what was planned for the day, and the meal is attached to stereotypes.\nThey went out of their way to serve a watermelon dessert, which has been confirmed as being an extremely rare item.\nThe company did something similar in 2018, and terminated employees who organized it, indicating there was at least something going on that shouldn't have occurred. [src]\nThey also had an issue in 2011 (I wasn't aware of it until reading this article, only the 2018 issue) with UC California-Irvine.\n\nIf it had already been planned and was a common meal, I don't think there'd have been an issue. But for them to change the planned meal on the first day of Black History Month and to include items that were outside the norm is a really bad look for the company and its employees at that school.\nIt's also telling that this is the third time (that we know of) that this has occurred with the same company.",
">\n\nWere green meals used to subjugate and disparage an entire race like watermelon was?\nWhat about pasta-stuffed pizza, or tacos? Either of those specifically used to disparage an entire race?\nNo? Then none of those examples compare.\nAww, what's wrong? Don't like being called out for using the argument racist people do?\nToo fucking bad.",
">\n\nNot the person you responded to, and I am still learning American history as I go. How did white Americans use watermelons to disparage black Americans?",
">\n\nThis is unacceptable! Under no circumstances should anyone ever apologize for serving chicken and waffles. The only acceptable apology is for not serving more chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nI worked in NYC schools for a while. What they should be apologizing for at most schools is serving a couple frozen processed chicken nuggets on a half-toasted eggo and calling it \"chicken and waffles\".",
">\n\nThat's not chicken and waffles! That's a being poor and just eating whatever you have in the freezer kind of meal.",
">\n\nI mean that's more or less the kind of budget public schools are working with. Not to mention that the people working in these kitchens are paid extremely poorly as well. Like 99% of problems in education in the USA, the solution is \"we need more money\". But hey as long as we can make sure grown men get paid millions of dollars to throw balls around and Jeff Bezos can play astronaut who cares about kids, right?",
">\n\nKeep in mind if you're looking at that and going \"wow that's actually a good pay\" keep in mind this is New York City, one of the most expensive spots in the country to live in. I was a high school special education teacher there for five years (and lived there before with even lower paying jobs for 7-8 years). Even if you're at the upper level of that pay scale you're pretty much putting 50% of your income straight into rent, even if you live in a cheap area.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it’s not easy to live here.",
">\n\nDefinitely isn't. I lived there 2006-2019, ended up landing in Michigan after a brief stint in North Carolina, I'm happy I spent such a large chunk of formative adult years there (I moved there right after college) because as someone who grew up in a small, non-diverse New England rural town it was a huge contrast. These days though when people ask if I miss NYC my answer is \"all the things I miss I can get when I go visit\".",
">\n\nThere's nothing wrong with chicken and waffles on any day.",
">\n\nNo, but there's a huge fucking issue with serving watermelon to black students on the first day of BHM...you know, the actual issue.",
">\n\nWhere do you even get fresh watermelon from in February? It's not in season until the end of summer.",
">\n\nLikely grown in south America somewhere.",
">\n\nThe one I got over the weekend said it came from Chile.",
">\n\nApologize for what. This is stupid.",
">\n\nThey changed the menu to serve Chicken and Waffles and Watermelon in honor of BHM.",
">\n\nTo be fair, per the article...\n\n\"While our menu was not intended as a cultural meal, we acknowledge that the timing was inappropriate, and our team should have been more thoughtful in its service,\" the Aramark statement said.\n\nHowever...\n\nAramark has found itself in similar situations in years past, including an incident in 2011 where UC California-Irvine, an Aramark client, was criticized for serving a \"MLH Holiday Special\" that featured chicken and waffles.\n\nSo, yeah, there's something rotten in Aramark.",
">\n\nI love what you did there.",
">\n\nChicken and waffles is fucking awesome",
">\n\nChicken and Waffles do not go with watermelon. That’s the issue. This was intentionally a racist joke.",
">\n\nAt this point the motivation was to be entirely racist. Nobody is going to believe anyone they didn’t know.",
">\n\nCan't believe if I'll be forced to not eat any of those on Black History Month.",
">\n\nexactly the shit only whites can be offended about in the name of others. no sane men should deny gods gift of chicken and waffles whatever the occasion.\nit may be a stereotype you recognize for racism, but it also, is fucking delicious.",
">\n\n\nIt's a stupid stereotype that's not even actually racist.\n\nExcept it IS a racist stereotype, has been for centuries, and continues to be so.\nJust because you don't like that it is, doesn't change that fact.\nAdditionally, no one uses the foods of the cultures you presented as a negative facet of their identity...and in fact this is the EXACT argument you see racist people use to say \"it's ok\" to be shitty towards black people.",
">\n\nI'm not explaining something to someone making obviously inflammatory commentary in bad faith. You know the issue isn't with chicken and waffles specifically, as it's been pointed out COUNTLESS times throughout this comment section. It's the inclusion of watermelon, a known negative stereotype.\nYou being ignorant of history isn't anyone's problem, but yours.\nAs for the rest of this tantrum?\nOk, 🤡.\nEdit: Imagine that. Blocking me after making a comment...sorry, throwing a tantrum. Comment:\n\nThe only one doing anything here in bad faith is the one with their silly clown emojis who refuses to support their point and instead prefers to sling mud.\n\nMy reply:\nYou came in here, making wildly racist claims about a topic you're obviously ignorant on, you double down on the racism and ignorance, and when called out and treated with the same respect as you have shown to others...you go into toddler mode.\nNah, I think I'm pretty fucking spot on with my assessment of you.",
">\n\nI'm personally offended that \na. we are eaten\nb. people are offended because we are eaten",
">\n\nSir, you have a license to cluck.",
">\n\nI can understand where they're coming from but as a (former) southerner you should never have to apologize for chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nagreed. if they are good. now bad... then yeah...",
">\n\n... Until it's realized all the cooks are black. \nAh, narrative shift, nothing to see here",
">\n\nTell that to the black student who was upset being served watermelon then.",
">\n\nWould it be ok on the 17th ?",
">\n\nOne of my few bright memories from elementary school were of getting to eat different foods from different places during holidays and what not. I'll never be able to eat another latke again, but, I digest,it seems like a foolhardy thing to get pissy about. It's a lot better than my Norwegian ass serving Lutefisk.",
">\n\nYou can make latkes, it's pretty easy",
">\n\nI’m white and grew in the south, personally I have a hard time understanding how this is wrong. Literally everyone besides probably the vegans moving from California love fried foods, for fucks sake some of the most popular items at the Texas State Fair have been fried candy bars and fried BUTTER. I literally eat fried chicken and waffles a few times a month and that’s because I’m on a diet and am trying to lose weight. When I was a kid when they were in season we literally used to go through at least one watermelon a week and I’m not taking about those small snack size ones. Pro tip if you have a waffle maker; cornbread waffles. Enough said… The only thing they were missing was fried okra which is the only side dish anyone ever needs.\nAlso not every stereotype has to have a negative connotation. I’m Jewish and most of us like stereotypical foods. When I was a kid and went to shul after the service there would usually be a spread with bagels, schmear, sometimes lox, kugel, gefilte fish (absolutely disgusting), and when we were really lucky a cholent.",
">\n\nIt’s the watermelon 🍉 and the chicken 🍗 combination that is offensive. Not the chicken and waffles part. Weird headline.",
">\n\nThey're mad because it should be a weekly menu item!",
">\n\nHold the phone. Aren't waffles like European? Explain like i'm five how waffles are racist while I make me a Belgian waffle with lingonberry and whipped cream. Hold the phone again. Nutella and whipped cream. (Don't have any lingonberries handy) Ok, now explain.",
">\n\nIt’s a stereotype that black people like friend chicken. Also they served watermelon. Which is stereotypically associated being enjoyed by blavk people.\nIt’s sort of like having turkish week and serving shishkabob, indian week and serving curry, greek week serving chicken fries and tzatziki and so on and so forth",
">\n\nWatermelon is not associated with being enjoyed by black people… everyone likes a watermelon on a summer day.",
">\n\nHow about you google it real quick, just to make sure",
">\n\nNo need to do so, I live in a country where most people are white and everyone likes watermelon anyway.",
">\n\nAbsurdly stupid association, made up by people who want to create conflicts for fun.\nEveryone likes watermelons, independent on skin colour.\nI would be happy for a slice of watermelon for lunch, and it has nothing to do with my race.",
">\n\nSure. Everyone likes it.\nBut you're literally ignoring that it was a stereotype for so long that we have newspaper cartoons 150 years old making fun of it.\nI agree it's a stupid association, but it's a real stereotype: even the Larry David bit is making fun of it.\n\"It's a stupid stereotype so it doesn't exist\" isn't the best take on it.",
">\n\nThis made-up “issue” takes attention away from real racism such as violence or doctors thinking black people feel less pain.",
">\n\nI don't think it was made up so much as just tone deaf.\nEveryone likes chicken and waffles.\nMaybe not doing it for a special Black history event seems like a reasonable compromise.",
">\n\nOnly offensive if they were shitty (which they probably were)",
">\n\nIsn't this an example of being racially sensitive (the good type of steriotype), as opposed to insensitive (the bad type)? That's a good thing!\nIt's like serving a man a steak on the first date. You're being sensitive to their gender by getting a positive steriotype right",
">\n\nThe issue isn't the chicken and waffles. It's the fact that it was served with watermelon.\nNuance is a thing.",
">\n\nI guess it’s only ok to stereotype food if there is a nationality behind it 🤣🤣🤣",
">\n\n\"How can we show black students we care this month? Ideas?\"\n\"We could reduce them to food stereotypes?\"\n\"Nailed it. Get to work.\"",
">\n\nIf done right, this could actually be pretty cool. Problem is, they'd never do it right.",
">\n\nImagine being this childish...then throwing blatant racism on top of it.",
">\n\nI'm just curious are black people complaining or are white people complaining for black people ?",
">\n\nA black sixth grade student complained.",
">\n\nIt never fails, racists love to do this type of shit, especially during black history month.",
">\n\nIt was the piss pumpkin that was the topping on the insult.",
">\n\nwhy?? its food.. stop being judgmental people.."
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We have to stop this shit in particular. Chicken, waffles, and watermelon are a good goddamn meal and it fucking sucks that a fucking stereotype is making people enjoy that shit less.
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"What’s wrong with chicken and waffles?",
">\n\nThe problem is when someone responds to Black History Month by pushing stereotypes.\nOutside of context, nothing would be wrong.",
">\n\nis chicken and waffles a stereotype?\nI'm honestly asking. I've never heard of that.",
">\n\nIt had way less to do with Chicken and Waffles being served, and them serving it with watermelon.\nThey could have served it with any other fruit and it would be a non-issue.",
">\n\nChicken waffles and watermelon are all delicious. As a black person this seems kind of a hyperbolic complaint.\nI get the thought behind it but unless they served it in black face I don’t see the issue.\n😂",
">\n\nThe black students at the middle school took issue with it. That's where the push came from and it was specifically regarding adding watermelon to it.",
">\n\nIf the black kids took this at a dig at them, I should imagine it's not a school where they feel valued most other days either",
">\n\nHonoring Black History month by emphasizing stereotypes is pretty tone deaf.\nShit man, I will fuck up some chicken, waffles and watermelon. Just can't imagine someone thought that was a good idea for the first day of black history.",
">\n\nThis.",
">\n\nFor those asking what the problem is with chicken and waffles -\n\nThey served something different from what was planned for the day, and the meal is attached to stereotypes.\nThey went out of their way to serve a watermelon dessert, which has been confirmed as being an extremely rare item.\nThe company did something similar in 2018, and terminated employees who organized it, indicating there was at least something going on that shouldn't have occurred. [src]\nThey also had an issue in 2011 (I wasn't aware of it until reading this article, only the 2018 issue) with UC California-Irvine.\n\nIf it had already been planned and was a common meal, I don't think there'd have been an issue. But for them to change the planned meal on the first day of Black History Month and to include items that were outside the norm is a really bad look for the company and its employees at that school.\nIt's also telling that this is the third time (that we know of) that this has occurred with the same company.",
">\n\nWere green meals used to subjugate and disparage an entire race like watermelon was?\nWhat about pasta-stuffed pizza, or tacos? Either of those specifically used to disparage an entire race?\nNo? Then none of those examples compare.\nAww, what's wrong? Don't like being called out for using the argument racist people do?\nToo fucking bad.",
">\n\nNot the person you responded to, and I am still learning American history as I go. How did white Americans use watermelons to disparage black Americans?",
">\n\nThis is unacceptable! Under no circumstances should anyone ever apologize for serving chicken and waffles. The only acceptable apology is for not serving more chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nI worked in NYC schools for a while. What they should be apologizing for at most schools is serving a couple frozen processed chicken nuggets on a half-toasted eggo and calling it \"chicken and waffles\".",
">\n\nThat's not chicken and waffles! That's a being poor and just eating whatever you have in the freezer kind of meal.",
">\n\nI mean that's more or less the kind of budget public schools are working with. Not to mention that the people working in these kitchens are paid extremely poorly as well. Like 99% of problems in education in the USA, the solution is \"we need more money\". But hey as long as we can make sure grown men get paid millions of dollars to throw balls around and Jeff Bezos can play astronaut who cares about kids, right?",
">\n\nKeep in mind if you're looking at that and going \"wow that's actually a good pay\" keep in mind this is New York City, one of the most expensive spots in the country to live in. I was a high school special education teacher there for five years (and lived there before with even lower paying jobs for 7-8 years). Even if you're at the upper level of that pay scale you're pretty much putting 50% of your income straight into rent, even if you live in a cheap area.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it’s not easy to live here.",
">\n\nDefinitely isn't. I lived there 2006-2019, ended up landing in Michigan after a brief stint in North Carolina, I'm happy I spent such a large chunk of formative adult years there (I moved there right after college) because as someone who grew up in a small, non-diverse New England rural town it was a huge contrast. These days though when people ask if I miss NYC my answer is \"all the things I miss I can get when I go visit\".",
">\n\nThere's nothing wrong with chicken and waffles on any day.",
">\n\nNo, but there's a huge fucking issue with serving watermelon to black students on the first day of BHM...you know, the actual issue.",
">\n\nWhere do you even get fresh watermelon from in February? It's not in season until the end of summer.",
">\n\nLikely grown in south America somewhere.",
">\n\nThe one I got over the weekend said it came from Chile.",
">\n\nApologize for what. This is stupid.",
">\n\nThey changed the menu to serve Chicken and Waffles and Watermelon in honor of BHM.",
">\n\nTo be fair, per the article...\n\n\"While our menu was not intended as a cultural meal, we acknowledge that the timing was inappropriate, and our team should have been more thoughtful in its service,\" the Aramark statement said.\n\nHowever...\n\nAramark has found itself in similar situations in years past, including an incident in 2011 where UC California-Irvine, an Aramark client, was criticized for serving a \"MLH Holiday Special\" that featured chicken and waffles.\n\nSo, yeah, there's something rotten in Aramark.",
">\n\nI love what you did there.",
">\n\nChicken and waffles is fucking awesome",
">\n\nChicken and Waffles do not go with watermelon. That’s the issue. This was intentionally a racist joke.",
">\n\nAt this point the motivation was to be entirely racist. Nobody is going to believe anyone they didn’t know.",
">\n\nCan't believe if I'll be forced to not eat any of those on Black History Month.",
">\n\nexactly the shit only whites can be offended about in the name of others. no sane men should deny gods gift of chicken and waffles whatever the occasion.\nit may be a stereotype you recognize for racism, but it also, is fucking delicious.",
">\n\n\nIt's a stupid stereotype that's not even actually racist.\n\nExcept it IS a racist stereotype, has been for centuries, and continues to be so.\nJust because you don't like that it is, doesn't change that fact.\nAdditionally, no one uses the foods of the cultures you presented as a negative facet of their identity...and in fact this is the EXACT argument you see racist people use to say \"it's ok\" to be shitty towards black people.",
">\n\nI'm not explaining something to someone making obviously inflammatory commentary in bad faith. You know the issue isn't with chicken and waffles specifically, as it's been pointed out COUNTLESS times throughout this comment section. It's the inclusion of watermelon, a known negative stereotype.\nYou being ignorant of history isn't anyone's problem, but yours.\nAs for the rest of this tantrum?\nOk, 🤡.\nEdit: Imagine that. Blocking me after making a comment...sorry, throwing a tantrum. Comment:\n\nThe only one doing anything here in bad faith is the one with their silly clown emojis who refuses to support their point and instead prefers to sling mud.\n\nMy reply:\nYou came in here, making wildly racist claims about a topic you're obviously ignorant on, you double down on the racism and ignorance, and when called out and treated with the same respect as you have shown to others...you go into toddler mode.\nNah, I think I'm pretty fucking spot on with my assessment of you.",
">\n\nI'm personally offended that \na. we are eaten\nb. people are offended because we are eaten",
">\n\nSir, you have a license to cluck.",
">\n\nI can understand where they're coming from but as a (former) southerner you should never have to apologize for chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nagreed. if they are good. now bad... then yeah...",
">\n\n... Until it's realized all the cooks are black. \nAh, narrative shift, nothing to see here",
">\n\nTell that to the black student who was upset being served watermelon then.",
">\n\nWould it be ok on the 17th ?",
">\n\nOne of my few bright memories from elementary school were of getting to eat different foods from different places during holidays and what not. I'll never be able to eat another latke again, but, I digest,it seems like a foolhardy thing to get pissy about. It's a lot better than my Norwegian ass serving Lutefisk.",
">\n\nYou can make latkes, it's pretty easy",
">\n\nI’m white and grew in the south, personally I have a hard time understanding how this is wrong. Literally everyone besides probably the vegans moving from California love fried foods, for fucks sake some of the most popular items at the Texas State Fair have been fried candy bars and fried BUTTER. I literally eat fried chicken and waffles a few times a month and that’s because I’m on a diet and am trying to lose weight. When I was a kid when they were in season we literally used to go through at least one watermelon a week and I’m not taking about those small snack size ones. Pro tip if you have a waffle maker; cornbread waffles. Enough said… The only thing they were missing was fried okra which is the only side dish anyone ever needs.\nAlso not every stereotype has to have a negative connotation. I’m Jewish and most of us like stereotypical foods. When I was a kid and went to shul after the service there would usually be a spread with bagels, schmear, sometimes lox, kugel, gefilte fish (absolutely disgusting), and when we were really lucky a cholent.",
">\n\nIt’s the watermelon 🍉 and the chicken 🍗 combination that is offensive. Not the chicken and waffles part. Weird headline.",
">\n\nThey're mad because it should be a weekly menu item!",
">\n\nHold the phone. Aren't waffles like European? Explain like i'm five how waffles are racist while I make me a Belgian waffle with lingonberry and whipped cream. Hold the phone again. Nutella and whipped cream. (Don't have any lingonberries handy) Ok, now explain.",
">\n\nIt’s a stereotype that black people like friend chicken. Also they served watermelon. Which is stereotypically associated being enjoyed by blavk people.\nIt’s sort of like having turkish week and serving shishkabob, indian week and serving curry, greek week serving chicken fries and tzatziki and so on and so forth",
">\n\nWatermelon is not associated with being enjoyed by black people… everyone likes a watermelon on a summer day.",
">\n\nHow about you google it real quick, just to make sure",
">\n\nNo need to do so, I live in a country where most people are white and everyone likes watermelon anyway.",
">\n\nAbsurdly stupid association, made up by people who want to create conflicts for fun.\nEveryone likes watermelons, independent on skin colour.\nI would be happy for a slice of watermelon for lunch, and it has nothing to do with my race.",
">\n\nSure. Everyone likes it.\nBut you're literally ignoring that it was a stereotype for so long that we have newspaper cartoons 150 years old making fun of it.\nI agree it's a stupid association, but it's a real stereotype: even the Larry David bit is making fun of it.\n\"It's a stupid stereotype so it doesn't exist\" isn't the best take on it.",
">\n\nThis made-up “issue” takes attention away from real racism such as violence or doctors thinking black people feel less pain.",
">\n\nI don't think it was made up so much as just tone deaf.\nEveryone likes chicken and waffles.\nMaybe not doing it for a special Black history event seems like a reasonable compromise.",
">\n\nOnly offensive if they were shitty (which they probably were)",
">\n\nIsn't this an example of being racially sensitive (the good type of steriotype), as opposed to insensitive (the bad type)? That's a good thing!\nIt's like serving a man a steak on the first date. You're being sensitive to their gender by getting a positive steriotype right",
">\n\nThe issue isn't the chicken and waffles. It's the fact that it was served with watermelon.\nNuance is a thing.",
">\n\nI guess it’s only ok to stereotype food if there is a nationality behind it 🤣🤣🤣",
">\n\n\"How can we show black students we care this month? Ideas?\"\n\"We could reduce them to food stereotypes?\"\n\"Nailed it. Get to work.\"",
">\n\nIf done right, this could actually be pretty cool. Problem is, they'd never do it right.",
">\n\nImagine being this childish...then throwing blatant racism on top of it.",
">\n\nI'm just curious are black people complaining or are white people complaining for black people ?",
">\n\nA black sixth grade student complained.",
">\n\nIt never fails, racists love to do this type of shit, especially during black history month.",
">\n\nIt was the piss pumpkin that was the topping on the insult.",
">\n\nwhy?? its food.. stop being judgmental people..",
">\n\nSilly. I mean, c'mon, we got major global issues going on, & someone's getting butt hurt over chicken, waffles & watermelon. Sounds good to me!!"
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If you gave me tacos and menudo on Mexican independence I'd be happy
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"What’s wrong with chicken and waffles?",
">\n\nThe problem is when someone responds to Black History Month by pushing stereotypes.\nOutside of context, nothing would be wrong.",
">\n\nis chicken and waffles a stereotype?\nI'm honestly asking. I've never heard of that.",
">\n\nIt had way less to do with Chicken and Waffles being served, and them serving it with watermelon.\nThey could have served it with any other fruit and it would be a non-issue.",
">\n\nChicken waffles and watermelon are all delicious. As a black person this seems kind of a hyperbolic complaint.\nI get the thought behind it but unless they served it in black face I don’t see the issue.\n😂",
">\n\nThe black students at the middle school took issue with it. That's where the push came from and it was specifically regarding adding watermelon to it.",
">\n\nIf the black kids took this at a dig at them, I should imagine it's not a school where they feel valued most other days either",
">\n\nHonoring Black History month by emphasizing stereotypes is pretty tone deaf.\nShit man, I will fuck up some chicken, waffles and watermelon. Just can't imagine someone thought that was a good idea for the first day of black history.",
">\n\nThis.",
">\n\nFor those asking what the problem is with chicken and waffles -\n\nThey served something different from what was planned for the day, and the meal is attached to stereotypes.\nThey went out of their way to serve a watermelon dessert, which has been confirmed as being an extremely rare item.\nThe company did something similar in 2018, and terminated employees who organized it, indicating there was at least something going on that shouldn't have occurred. [src]\nThey also had an issue in 2011 (I wasn't aware of it until reading this article, only the 2018 issue) with UC California-Irvine.\n\nIf it had already been planned and was a common meal, I don't think there'd have been an issue. But for them to change the planned meal on the first day of Black History Month and to include items that were outside the norm is a really bad look for the company and its employees at that school.\nIt's also telling that this is the third time (that we know of) that this has occurred with the same company.",
">\n\nWere green meals used to subjugate and disparage an entire race like watermelon was?\nWhat about pasta-stuffed pizza, or tacos? Either of those specifically used to disparage an entire race?\nNo? Then none of those examples compare.\nAww, what's wrong? Don't like being called out for using the argument racist people do?\nToo fucking bad.",
">\n\nNot the person you responded to, and I am still learning American history as I go. How did white Americans use watermelons to disparage black Americans?",
">\n\nThis is unacceptable! Under no circumstances should anyone ever apologize for serving chicken and waffles. The only acceptable apology is for not serving more chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nI worked in NYC schools for a while. What they should be apologizing for at most schools is serving a couple frozen processed chicken nuggets on a half-toasted eggo and calling it \"chicken and waffles\".",
">\n\nThat's not chicken and waffles! That's a being poor and just eating whatever you have in the freezer kind of meal.",
">\n\nI mean that's more or less the kind of budget public schools are working with. Not to mention that the people working in these kitchens are paid extremely poorly as well. Like 99% of problems in education in the USA, the solution is \"we need more money\". But hey as long as we can make sure grown men get paid millions of dollars to throw balls around and Jeff Bezos can play astronaut who cares about kids, right?",
">\n\nKeep in mind if you're looking at that and going \"wow that's actually a good pay\" keep in mind this is New York City, one of the most expensive spots in the country to live in. I was a high school special education teacher there for five years (and lived there before with even lower paying jobs for 7-8 years). Even if you're at the upper level of that pay scale you're pretty much putting 50% of your income straight into rent, even if you live in a cheap area.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it’s not easy to live here.",
">\n\nDefinitely isn't. I lived there 2006-2019, ended up landing in Michigan after a brief stint in North Carolina, I'm happy I spent such a large chunk of formative adult years there (I moved there right after college) because as someone who grew up in a small, non-diverse New England rural town it was a huge contrast. These days though when people ask if I miss NYC my answer is \"all the things I miss I can get when I go visit\".",
">\n\nThere's nothing wrong with chicken and waffles on any day.",
">\n\nNo, but there's a huge fucking issue with serving watermelon to black students on the first day of BHM...you know, the actual issue.",
">\n\nWhere do you even get fresh watermelon from in February? It's not in season until the end of summer.",
">\n\nLikely grown in south America somewhere.",
">\n\nThe one I got over the weekend said it came from Chile.",
">\n\nApologize for what. This is stupid.",
">\n\nThey changed the menu to serve Chicken and Waffles and Watermelon in honor of BHM.",
">\n\nTo be fair, per the article...\n\n\"While our menu was not intended as a cultural meal, we acknowledge that the timing was inappropriate, and our team should have been more thoughtful in its service,\" the Aramark statement said.\n\nHowever...\n\nAramark has found itself in similar situations in years past, including an incident in 2011 where UC California-Irvine, an Aramark client, was criticized for serving a \"MLH Holiday Special\" that featured chicken and waffles.\n\nSo, yeah, there's something rotten in Aramark.",
">\n\nI love what you did there.",
">\n\nChicken and waffles is fucking awesome",
">\n\nChicken and Waffles do not go with watermelon. That’s the issue. This was intentionally a racist joke.",
">\n\nAt this point the motivation was to be entirely racist. Nobody is going to believe anyone they didn’t know.",
">\n\nCan't believe if I'll be forced to not eat any of those on Black History Month.",
">\n\nexactly the shit only whites can be offended about in the name of others. no sane men should deny gods gift of chicken and waffles whatever the occasion.\nit may be a stereotype you recognize for racism, but it also, is fucking delicious.",
">\n\n\nIt's a stupid stereotype that's not even actually racist.\n\nExcept it IS a racist stereotype, has been for centuries, and continues to be so.\nJust because you don't like that it is, doesn't change that fact.\nAdditionally, no one uses the foods of the cultures you presented as a negative facet of their identity...and in fact this is the EXACT argument you see racist people use to say \"it's ok\" to be shitty towards black people.",
">\n\nI'm not explaining something to someone making obviously inflammatory commentary in bad faith. You know the issue isn't with chicken and waffles specifically, as it's been pointed out COUNTLESS times throughout this comment section. It's the inclusion of watermelon, a known negative stereotype.\nYou being ignorant of history isn't anyone's problem, but yours.\nAs for the rest of this tantrum?\nOk, 🤡.\nEdit: Imagine that. Blocking me after making a comment...sorry, throwing a tantrum. Comment:\n\nThe only one doing anything here in bad faith is the one with their silly clown emojis who refuses to support their point and instead prefers to sling mud.\n\nMy reply:\nYou came in here, making wildly racist claims about a topic you're obviously ignorant on, you double down on the racism and ignorance, and when called out and treated with the same respect as you have shown to others...you go into toddler mode.\nNah, I think I'm pretty fucking spot on with my assessment of you.",
">\n\nI'm personally offended that \na. we are eaten\nb. people are offended because we are eaten",
">\n\nSir, you have a license to cluck.",
">\n\nI can understand where they're coming from but as a (former) southerner you should never have to apologize for chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nagreed. if they are good. now bad... then yeah...",
">\n\n... Until it's realized all the cooks are black. \nAh, narrative shift, nothing to see here",
">\n\nTell that to the black student who was upset being served watermelon then.",
">\n\nWould it be ok on the 17th ?",
">\n\nOne of my few bright memories from elementary school were of getting to eat different foods from different places during holidays and what not. I'll never be able to eat another latke again, but, I digest,it seems like a foolhardy thing to get pissy about. It's a lot better than my Norwegian ass serving Lutefisk.",
">\n\nYou can make latkes, it's pretty easy",
">\n\nI’m white and grew in the south, personally I have a hard time understanding how this is wrong. Literally everyone besides probably the vegans moving from California love fried foods, for fucks sake some of the most popular items at the Texas State Fair have been fried candy bars and fried BUTTER. I literally eat fried chicken and waffles a few times a month and that’s because I’m on a diet and am trying to lose weight. When I was a kid when they were in season we literally used to go through at least one watermelon a week and I’m not taking about those small snack size ones. Pro tip if you have a waffle maker; cornbread waffles. Enough said… The only thing they were missing was fried okra which is the only side dish anyone ever needs.\nAlso not every stereotype has to have a negative connotation. I’m Jewish and most of us like stereotypical foods. When I was a kid and went to shul after the service there would usually be a spread with bagels, schmear, sometimes lox, kugel, gefilte fish (absolutely disgusting), and when we were really lucky a cholent.",
">\n\nIt’s the watermelon 🍉 and the chicken 🍗 combination that is offensive. Not the chicken and waffles part. Weird headline.",
">\n\nThey're mad because it should be a weekly menu item!",
">\n\nHold the phone. Aren't waffles like European? Explain like i'm five how waffles are racist while I make me a Belgian waffle with lingonberry and whipped cream. Hold the phone again. Nutella and whipped cream. (Don't have any lingonberries handy) Ok, now explain.",
">\n\nIt’s a stereotype that black people like friend chicken. Also they served watermelon. Which is stereotypically associated being enjoyed by blavk people.\nIt’s sort of like having turkish week and serving shishkabob, indian week and serving curry, greek week serving chicken fries and tzatziki and so on and so forth",
">\n\nWatermelon is not associated with being enjoyed by black people… everyone likes a watermelon on a summer day.",
">\n\nHow about you google it real quick, just to make sure",
">\n\nNo need to do so, I live in a country where most people are white and everyone likes watermelon anyway.",
">\n\nAbsurdly stupid association, made up by people who want to create conflicts for fun.\nEveryone likes watermelons, independent on skin colour.\nI would be happy for a slice of watermelon for lunch, and it has nothing to do with my race.",
">\n\nSure. Everyone likes it.\nBut you're literally ignoring that it was a stereotype for so long that we have newspaper cartoons 150 years old making fun of it.\nI agree it's a stupid association, but it's a real stereotype: even the Larry David bit is making fun of it.\n\"It's a stupid stereotype so it doesn't exist\" isn't the best take on it.",
">\n\nThis made-up “issue” takes attention away from real racism such as violence or doctors thinking black people feel less pain.",
">\n\nI don't think it was made up so much as just tone deaf.\nEveryone likes chicken and waffles.\nMaybe not doing it for a special Black history event seems like a reasonable compromise.",
">\n\nOnly offensive if they were shitty (which they probably were)",
">\n\nIsn't this an example of being racially sensitive (the good type of steriotype), as opposed to insensitive (the bad type)? That's a good thing!\nIt's like serving a man a steak on the first date. You're being sensitive to their gender by getting a positive steriotype right",
">\n\nThe issue isn't the chicken and waffles. It's the fact that it was served with watermelon.\nNuance is a thing.",
">\n\nI guess it’s only ok to stereotype food if there is a nationality behind it 🤣🤣🤣",
">\n\n\"How can we show black students we care this month? Ideas?\"\n\"We could reduce them to food stereotypes?\"\n\"Nailed it. Get to work.\"",
">\n\nIf done right, this could actually be pretty cool. Problem is, they'd never do it right.",
">\n\nImagine being this childish...then throwing blatant racism on top of it.",
">\n\nI'm just curious are black people complaining or are white people complaining for black people ?",
">\n\nA black sixth grade student complained.",
">\n\nIt never fails, racists love to do this type of shit, especially during black history month.",
">\n\nIt was the piss pumpkin that was the topping on the insult.",
">\n\nwhy?? its food.. stop being judgmental people..",
">\n\nSilly. I mean, c'mon, we got major global issues going on, & someone's getting butt hurt over chicken, waffles & watermelon. Sounds good to me!!",
">\n\nWe have to stop this shit in particular. Chicken, waffles, and watermelon are a good goddamn meal and it fucking sucks that a fucking stereotype is making people enjoy that shit less."
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If you don't like chicken and watermelon something is wrong with YOU!
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"What’s wrong with chicken and waffles?",
">\n\nThe problem is when someone responds to Black History Month by pushing stereotypes.\nOutside of context, nothing would be wrong.",
">\n\nis chicken and waffles a stereotype?\nI'm honestly asking. I've never heard of that.",
">\n\nIt had way less to do with Chicken and Waffles being served, and them serving it with watermelon.\nThey could have served it with any other fruit and it would be a non-issue.",
">\n\nChicken waffles and watermelon are all delicious. As a black person this seems kind of a hyperbolic complaint.\nI get the thought behind it but unless they served it in black face I don’t see the issue.\n😂",
">\n\nThe black students at the middle school took issue with it. That's where the push came from and it was specifically regarding adding watermelon to it.",
">\n\nIf the black kids took this at a dig at them, I should imagine it's not a school where they feel valued most other days either",
">\n\nHonoring Black History month by emphasizing stereotypes is pretty tone deaf.\nShit man, I will fuck up some chicken, waffles and watermelon. Just can't imagine someone thought that was a good idea for the first day of black history.",
">\n\nThis.",
">\n\nFor those asking what the problem is with chicken and waffles -\n\nThey served something different from what was planned for the day, and the meal is attached to stereotypes.\nThey went out of their way to serve a watermelon dessert, which has been confirmed as being an extremely rare item.\nThe company did something similar in 2018, and terminated employees who organized it, indicating there was at least something going on that shouldn't have occurred. [src]\nThey also had an issue in 2011 (I wasn't aware of it until reading this article, only the 2018 issue) with UC California-Irvine.\n\nIf it had already been planned and was a common meal, I don't think there'd have been an issue. But for them to change the planned meal on the first day of Black History Month and to include items that were outside the norm is a really bad look for the company and its employees at that school.\nIt's also telling that this is the third time (that we know of) that this has occurred with the same company.",
">\n\nWere green meals used to subjugate and disparage an entire race like watermelon was?\nWhat about pasta-stuffed pizza, or tacos? Either of those specifically used to disparage an entire race?\nNo? Then none of those examples compare.\nAww, what's wrong? Don't like being called out for using the argument racist people do?\nToo fucking bad.",
">\n\nNot the person you responded to, and I am still learning American history as I go. How did white Americans use watermelons to disparage black Americans?",
">\n\nThis is unacceptable! Under no circumstances should anyone ever apologize for serving chicken and waffles. The only acceptable apology is for not serving more chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nI worked in NYC schools for a while. What they should be apologizing for at most schools is serving a couple frozen processed chicken nuggets on a half-toasted eggo and calling it \"chicken and waffles\".",
">\n\nThat's not chicken and waffles! That's a being poor and just eating whatever you have in the freezer kind of meal.",
">\n\nI mean that's more or less the kind of budget public schools are working with. Not to mention that the people working in these kitchens are paid extremely poorly as well. Like 99% of problems in education in the USA, the solution is \"we need more money\". But hey as long as we can make sure grown men get paid millions of dollars to throw balls around and Jeff Bezos can play astronaut who cares about kids, right?",
">\n\nKeep in mind if you're looking at that and going \"wow that's actually a good pay\" keep in mind this is New York City, one of the most expensive spots in the country to live in. I was a high school special education teacher there for five years (and lived there before with even lower paying jobs for 7-8 years). Even if you're at the upper level of that pay scale you're pretty much putting 50% of your income straight into rent, even if you live in a cheap area.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it’s not easy to live here.",
">\n\nDefinitely isn't. I lived there 2006-2019, ended up landing in Michigan after a brief stint in North Carolina, I'm happy I spent such a large chunk of formative adult years there (I moved there right after college) because as someone who grew up in a small, non-diverse New England rural town it was a huge contrast. These days though when people ask if I miss NYC my answer is \"all the things I miss I can get when I go visit\".",
">\n\nThere's nothing wrong with chicken and waffles on any day.",
">\n\nNo, but there's a huge fucking issue with serving watermelon to black students on the first day of BHM...you know, the actual issue.",
">\n\nWhere do you even get fresh watermelon from in February? It's not in season until the end of summer.",
">\n\nLikely grown in south America somewhere.",
">\n\nThe one I got over the weekend said it came from Chile.",
">\n\nApologize for what. This is stupid.",
">\n\nThey changed the menu to serve Chicken and Waffles and Watermelon in honor of BHM.",
">\n\nTo be fair, per the article...\n\n\"While our menu was not intended as a cultural meal, we acknowledge that the timing was inappropriate, and our team should have been more thoughtful in its service,\" the Aramark statement said.\n\nHowever...\n\nAramark has found itself in similar situations in years past, including an incident in 2011 where UC California-Irvine, an Aramark client, was criticized for serving a \"MLH Holiday Special\" that featured chicken and waffles.\n\nSo, yeah, there's something rotten in Aramark.",
">\n\nI love what you did there.",
">\n\nChicken and waffles is fucking awesome",
">\n\nChicken and Waffles do not go with watermelon. That’s the issue. This was intentionally a racist joke.",
">\n\nAt this point the motivation was to be entirely racist. Nobody is going to believe anyone they didn’t know.",
">\n\nCan't believe if I'll be forced to not eat any of those on Black History Month.",
">\n\nexactly the shit only whites can be offended about in the name of others. no sane men should deny gods gift of chicken and waffles whatever the occasion.\nit may be a stereotype you recognize for racism, but it also, is fucking delicious.",
">\n\n\nIt's a stupid stereotype that's not even actually racist.\n\nExcept it IS a racist stereotype, has been for centuries, and continues to be so.\nJust because you don't like that it is, doesn't change that fact.\nAdditionally, no one uses the foods of the cultures you presented as a negative facet of their identity...and in fact this is the EXACT argument you see racist people use to say \"it's ok\" to be shitty towards black people.",
">\n\nI'm not explaining something to someone making obviously inflammatory commentary in bad faith. You know the issue isn't with chicken and waffles specifically, as it's been pointed out COUNTLESS times throughout this comment section. It's the inclusion of watermelon, a known negative stereotype.\nYou being ignorant of history isn't anyone's problem, but yours.\nAs for the rest of this tantrum?\nOk, 🤡.\nEdit: Imagine that. Blocking me after making a comment...sorry, throwing a tantrum. Comment:\n\nThe only one doing anything here in bad faith is the one with their silly clown emojis who refuses to support their point and instead prefers to sling mud.\n\nMy reply:\nYou came in here, making wildly racist claims about a topic you're obviously ignorant on, you double down on the racism and ignorance, and when called out and treated with the same respect as you have shown to others...you go into toddler mode.\nNah, I think I'm pretty fucking spot on with my assessment of you.",
">\n\nI'm personally offended that \na. we are eaten\nb. people are offended because we are eaten",
">\n\nSir, you have a license to cluck.",
">\n\nI can understand where they're coming from but as a (former) southerner you should never have to apologize for chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nagreed. if they are good. now bad... then yeah...",
">\n\n... Until it's realized all the cooks are black. \nAh, narrative shift, nothing to see here",
">\n\nTell that to the black student who was upset being served watermelon then.",
">\n\nWould it be ok on the 17th ?",
">\n\nOne of my few bright memories from elementary school were of getting to eat different foods from different places during holidays and what not. I'll never be able to eat another latke again, but, I digest,it seems like a foolhardy thing to get pissy about. It's a lot better than my Norwegian ass serving Lutefisk.",
">\n\nYou can make latkes, it's pretty easy",
">\n\nI’m white and grew in the south, personally I have a hard time understanding how this is wrong. Literally everyone besides probably the vegans moving from California love fried foods, for fucks sake some of the most popular items at the Texas State Fair have been fried candy bars and fried BUTTER. I literally eat fried chicken and waffles a few times a month and that’s because I’m on a diet and am trying to lose weight. When I was a kid when they were in season we literally used to go through at least one watermelon a week and I’m not taking about those small snack size ones. Pro tip if you have a waffle maker; cornbread waffles. Enough said… The only thing they were missing was fried okra which is the only side dish anyone ever needs.\nAlso not every stereotype has to have a negative connotation. I’m Jewish and most of us like stereotypical foods. When I was a kid and went to shul after the service there would usually be a spread with bagels, schmear, sometimes lox, kugel, gefilte fish (absolutely disgusting), and when we were really lucky a cholent.",
">\n\nIt’s the watermelon 🍉 and the chicken 🍗 combination that is offensive. Not the chicken and waffles part. Weird headline.",
">\n\nThey're mad because it should be a weekly menu item!",
">\n\nHold the phone. Aren't waffles like European? Explain like i'm five how waffles are racist while I make me a Belgian waffle with lingonberry and whipped cream. Hold the phone again. Nutella and whipped cream. (Don't have any lingonberries handy) Ok, now explain.",
">\n\nIt’s a stereotype that black people like friend chicken. Also they served watermelon. Which is stereotypically associated being enjoyed by blavk people.\nIt’s sort of like having turkish week and serving shishkabob, indian week and serving curry, greek week serving chicken fries and tzatziki and so on and so forth",
">\n\nWatermelon is not associated with being enjoyed by black people… everyone likes a watermelon on a summer day.",
">\n\nHow about you google it real quick, just to make sure",
">\n\nNo need to do so, I live in a country where most people are white and everyone likes watermelon anyway.",
">\n\nAbsurdly stupid association, made up by people who want to create conflicts for fun.\nEveryone likes watermelons, independent on skin colour.\nI would be happy for a slice of watermelon for lunch, and it has nothing to do with my race.",
">\n\nSure. Everyone likes it.\nBut you're literally ignoring that it was a stereotype for so long that we have newspaper cartoons 150 years old making fun of it.\nI agree it's a stupid association, but it's a real stereotype: even the Larry David bit is making fun of it.\n\"It's a stupid stereotype so it doesn't exist\" isn't the best take on it.",
">\n\nThis made-up “issue” takes attention away from real racism such as violence or doctors thinking black people feel less pain.",
">\n\nI don't think it was made up so much as just tone deaf.\nEveryone likes chicken and waffles.\nMaybe not doing it for a special Black history event seems like a reasonable compromise.",
">\n\nOnly offensive if they were shitty (which they probably were)",
">\n\nIsn't this an example of being racially sensitive (the good type of steriotype), as opposed to insensitive (the bad type)? That's a good thing!\nIt's like serving a man a steak on the first date. You're being sensitive to their gender by getting a positive steriotype right",
">\n\nThe issue isn't the chicken and waffles. It's the fact that it was served with watermelon.\nNuance is a thing.",
">\n\nI guess it’s only ok to stereotype food if there is a nationality behind it 🤣🤣🤣",
">\n\n\"How can we show black students we care this month? Ideas?\"\n\"We could reduce them to food stereotypes?\"\n\"Nailed it. Get to work.\"",
">\n\nIf done right, this could actually be pretty cool. Problem is, they'd never do it right.",
">\n\nImagine being this childish...then throwing blatant racism on top of it.",
">\n\nI'm just curious are black people complaining or are white people complaining for black people ?",
">\n\nA black sixth grade student complained.",
">\n\nIt never fails, racists love to do this type of shit, especially during black history month.",
">\n\nIt was the piss pumpkin that was the topping on the insult.",
">\n\nwhy?? its food.. stop being judgmental people..",
">\n\nSilly. I mean, c'mon, we got major global issues going on, & someone's getting butt hurt over chicken, waffles & watermelon. Sounds good to me!!",
">\n\nWe have to stop this shit in particular. Chicken, waffles, and watermelon are a good goddamn meal and it fucking sucks that a fucking stereotype is making people enjoy that shit less.",
">\n\nIf you gave me tacos and menudo on Mexican independence I'd be happy"
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And now, in breaking news, Luigi is offended by linguini...
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[
"What’s wrong with chicken and waffles?",
">\n\nThe problem is when someone responds to Black History Month by pushing stereotypes.\nOutside of context, nothing would be wrong.",
">\n\nis chicken and waffles a stereotype?\nI'm honestly asking. I've never heard of that.",
">\n\nIt had way less to do with Chicken and Waffles being served, and them serving it with watermelon.\nThey could have served it with any other fruit and it would be a non-issue.",
">\n\nChicken waffles and watermelon are all delicious. As a black person this seems kind of a hyperbolic complaint.\nI get the thought behind it but unless they served it in black face I don’t see the issue.\n😂",
">\n\nThe black students at the middle school took issue with it. That's where the push came from and it was specifically regarding adding watermelon to it.",
">\n\nIf the black kids took this at a dig at them, I should imagine it's not a school where they feel valued most other days either",
">\n\nHonoring Black History month by emphasizing stereotypes is pretty tone deaf.\nShit man, I will fuck up some chicken, waffles and watermelon. Just can't imagine someone thought that was a good idea for the first day of black history.",
">\n\nThis.",
">\n\nFor those asking what the problem is with chicken and waffles -\n\nThey served something different from what was planned for the day, and the meal is attached to stereotypes.\nThey went out of their way to serve a watermelon dessert, which has been confirmed as being an extremely rare item.\nThe company did something similar in 2018, and terminated employees who organized it, indicating there was at least something going on that shouldn't have occurred. [src]\nThey also had an issue in 2011 (I wasn't aware of it until reading this article, only the 2018 issue) with UC California-Irvine.\n\nIf it had already been planned and was a common meal, I don't think there'd have been an issue. But for them to change the planned meal on the first day of Black History Month and to include items that were outside the norm is a really bad look for the company and its employees at that school.\nIt's also telling that this is the third time (that we know of) that this has occurred with the same company.",
">\n\nWere green meals used to subjugate and disparage an entire race like watermelon was?\nWhat about pasta-stuffed pizza, or tacos? Either of those specifically used to disparage an entire race?\nNo? Then none of those examples compare.\nAww, what's wrong? Don't like being called out for using the argument racist people do?\nToo fucking bad.",
">\n\nNot the person you responded to, and I am still learning American history as I go. How did white Americans use watermelons to disparage black Americans?",
">\n\nThis is unacceptable! Under no circumstances should anyone ever apologize for serving chicken and waffles. The only acceptable apology is for not serving more chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nI worked in NYC schools for a while. What they should be apologizing for at most schools is serving a couple frozen processed chicken nuggets on a half-toasted eggo and calling it \"chicken and waffles\".",
">\n\nThat's not chicken and waffles! That's a being poor and just eating whatever you have in the freezer kind of meal.",
">\n\nI mean that's more or less the kind of budget public schools are working with. Not to mention that the people working in these kitchens are paid extremely poorly as well. Like 99% of problems in education in the USA, the solution is \"we need more money\". But hey as long as we can make sure grown men get paid millions of dollars to throw balls around and Jeff Bezos can play astronaut who cares about kids, right?",
">\n\nKeep in mind if you're looking at that and going \"wow that's actually a good pay\" keep in mind this is New York City, one of the most expensive spots in the country to live in. I was a high school special education teacher there for five years (and lived there before with even lower paying jobs for 7-8 years). Even if you're at the upper level of that pay scale you're pretty much putting 50% of your income straight into rent, even if you live in a cheap area.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it’s not easy to live here.",
">\n\nDefinitely isn't. I lived there 2006-2019, ended up landing in Michigan after a brief stint in North Carolina, I'm happy I spent such a large chunk of formative adult years there (I moved there right after college) because as someone who grew up in a small, non-diverse New England rural town it was a huge contrast. These days though when people ask if I miss NYC my answer is \"all the things I miss I can get when I go visit\".",
">\n\nThere's nothing wrong with chicken and waffles on any day.",
">\n\nNo, but there's a huge fucking issue with serving watermelon to black students on the first day of BHM...you know, the actual issue.",
">\n\nWhere do you even get fresh watermelon from in February? It's not in season until the end of summer.",
">\n\nLikely grown in south America somewhere.",
">\n\nThe one I got over the weekend said it came from Chile.",
">\n\nApologize for what. This is stupid.",
">\n\nThey changed the menu to serve Chicken and Waffles and Watermelon in honor of BHM.",
">\n\nTo be fair, per the article...\n\n\"While our menu was not intended as a cultural meal, we acknowledge that the timing was inappropriate, and our team should have been more thoughtful in its service,\" the Aramark statement said.\n\nHowever...\n\nAramark has found itself in similar situations in years past, including an incident in 2011 where UC California-Irvine, an Aramark client, was criticized for serving a \"MLH Holiday Special\" that featured chicken and waffles.\n\nSo, yeah, there's something rotten in Aramark.",
">\n\nI love what you did there.",
">\n\nChicken and waffles is fucking awesome",
">\n\nChicken and Waffles do not go with watermelon. That’s the issue. This was intentionally a racist joke.",
">\n\nAt this point the motivation was to be entirely racist. Nobody is going to believe anyone they didn’t know.",
">\n\nCan't believe if I'll be forced to not eat any of those on Black History Month.",
">\n\nexactly the shit only whites can be offended about in the name of others. no sane men should deny gods gift of chicken and waffles whatever the occasion.\nit may be a stereotype you recognize for racism, but it also, is fucking delicious.",
">\n\n\nIt's a stupid stereotype that's not even actually racist.\n\nExcept it IS a racist stereotype, has been for centuries, and continues to be so.\nJust because you don't like that it is, doesn't change that fact.\nAdditionally, no one uses the foods of the cultures you presented as a negative facet of their identity...and in fact this is the EXACT argument you see racist people use to say \"it's ok\" to be shitty towards black people.",
">\n\nI'm not explaining something to someone making obviously inflammatory commentary in bad faith. You know the issue isn't with chicken and waffles specifically, as it's been pointed out COUNTLESS times throughout this comment section. It's the inclusion of watermelon, a known negative stereotype.\nYou being ignorant of history isn't anyone's problem, but yours.\nAs for the rest of this tantrum?\nOk, 🤡.\nEdit: Imagine that. Blocking me after making a comment...sorry, throwing a tantrum. Comment:\n\nThe only one doing anything here in bad faith is the one with their silly clown emojis who refuses to support their point and instead prefers to sling mud.\n\nMy reply:\nYou came in here, making wildly racist claims about a topic you're obviously ignorant on, you double down on the racism and ignorance, and when called out and treated with the same respect as you have shown to others...you go into toddler mode.\nNah, I think I'm pretty fucking spot on with my assessment of you.",
">\n\nI'm personally offended that \na. we are eaten\nb. people are offended because we are eaten",
">\n\nSir, you have a license to cluck.",
">\n\nI can understand where they're coming from but as a (former) southerner you should never have to apologize for chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nagreed. if they are good. now bad... then yeah...",
">\n\n... Until it's realized all the cooks are black. \nAh, narrative shift, nothing to see here",
">\n\nTell that to the black student who was upset being served watermelon then.",
">\n\nWould it be ok on the 17th ?",
">\n\nOne of my few bright memories from elementary school were of getting to eat different foods from different places during holidays and what not. I'll never be able to eat another latke again, but, I digest,it seems like a foolhardy thing to get pissy about. It's a lot better than my Norwegian ass serving Lutefisk.",
">\n\nYou can make latkes, it's pretty easy",
">\n\nI’m white and grew in the south, personally I have a hard time understanding how this is wrong. Literally everyone besides probably the vegans moving from California love fried foods, for fucks sake some of the most popular items at the Texas State Fair have been fried candy bars and fried BUTTER. I literally eat fried chicken and waffles a few times a month and that’s because I’m on a diet and am trying to lose weight. When I was a kid when they were in season we literally used to go through at least one watermelon a week and I’m not taking about those small snack size ones. Pro tip if you have a waffle maker; cornbread waffles. Enough said… The only thing they were missing was fried okra which is the only side dish anyone ever needs.\nAlso not every stereotype has to have a negative connotation. I’m Jewish and most of us like stereotypical foods. When I was a kid and went to shul after the service there would usually be a spread with bagels, schmear, sometimes lox, kugel, gefilte fish (absolutely disgusting), and when we were really lucky a cholent.",
">\n\nIt’s the watermelon 🍉 and the chicken 🍗 combination that is offensive. Not the chicken and waffles part. Weird headline.",
">\n\nThey're mad because it should be a weekly menu item!",
">\n\nHold the phone. Aren't waffles like European? Explain like i'm five how waffles are racist while I make me a Belgian waffle with lingonberry and whipped cream. Hold the phone again. Nutella and whipped cream. (Don't have any lingonberries handy) Ok, now explain.",
">\n\nIt’s a stereotype that black people like friend chicken. Also they served watermelon. Which is stereotypically associated being enjoyed by blavk people.\nIt’s sort of like having turkish week and serving shishkabob, indian week and serving curry, greek week serving chicken fries and tzatziki and so on and so forth",
">\n\nWatermelon is not associated with being enjoyed by black people… everyone likes a watermelon on a summer day.",
">\n\nHow about you google it real quick, just to make sure",
">\n\nNo need to do so, I live in a country where most people are white and everyone likes watermelon anyway.",
">\n\nAbsurdly stupid association, made up by people who want to create conflicts for fun.\nEveryone likes watermelons, independent on skin colour.\nI would be happy for a slice of watermelon for lunch, and it has nothing to do with my race.",
">\n\nSure. Everyone likes it.\nBut you're literally ignoring that it was a stereotype for so long that we have newspaper cartoons 150 years old making fun of it.\nI agree it's a stupid association, but it's a real stereotype: even the Larry David bit is making fun of it.\n\"It's a stupid stereotype so it doesn't exist\" isn't the best take on it.",
">\n\nThis made-up “issue” takes attention away from real racism such as violence or doctors thinking black people feel less pain.",
">\n\nI don't think it was made up so much as just tone deaf.\nEveryone likes chicken and waffles.\nMaybe not doing it for a special Black history event seems like a reasonable compromise.",
">\n\nOnly offensive if they were shitty (which they probably were)",
">\n\nIsn't this an example of being racially sensitive (the good type of steriotype), as opposed to insensitive (the bad type)? That's a good thing!\nIt's like serving a man a steak on the first date. You're being sensitive to their gender by getting a positive steriotype right",
">\n\nThe issue isn't the chicken and waffles. It's the fact that it was served with watermelon.\nNuance is a thing.",
">\n\nI guess it’s only ok to stereotype food if there is a nationality behind it 🤣🤣🤣",
">\n\n\"How can we show black students we care this month? Ideas?\"\n\"We could reduce them to food stereotypes?\"\n\"Nailed it. Get to work.\"",
">\n\nIf done right, this could actually be pretty cool. Problem is, they'd never do it right.",
">\n\nImagine being this childish...then throwing blatant racism on top of it.",
">\n\nI'm just curious are black people complaining or are white people complaining for black people ?",
">\n\nA black sixth grade student complained.",
">\n\nIt never fails, racists love to do this type of shit, especially during black history month.",
">\n\nIt was the piss pumpkin that was the topping on the insult.",
">\n\nwhy?? its food.. stop being judgmental people..",
">\n\nSilly. I mean, c'mon, we got major global issues going on, & someone's getting butt hurt over chicken, waffles & watermelon. Sounds good to me!!",
">\n\nWe have to stop this shit in particular. Chicken, waffles, and watermelon are a good goddamn meal and it fucking sucks that a fucking stereotype is making people enjoy that shit less.",
">\n\nIf you gave me tacos and menudo on Mexican independence I'd be happy",
">\n\nIf you don't like chicken and watermelon something is wrong with YOU!"
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"What’s wrong with chicken and waffles?",
">\n\nThe problem is when someone responds to Black History Month by pushing stereotypes.\nOutside of context, nothing would be wrong.",
">\n\nis chicken and waffles a stereotype?\nI'm honestly asking. I've never heard of that.",
">\n\nIt had way less to do with Chicken and Waffles being served, and them serving it with watermelon.\nThey could have served it with any other fruit and it would be a non-issue.",
">\n\nChicken waffles and watermelon are all delicious. As a black person this seems kind of a hyperbolic complaint.\nI get the thought behind it but unless they served it in black face I don’t see the issue.\n😂",
">\n\nThe black students at the middle school took issue with it. That's where the push came from and it was specifically regarding adding watermelon to it.",
">\n\nIf the black kids took this at a dig at them, I should imagine it's not a school where they feel valued most other days either",
">\n\nHonoring Black History month by emphasizing stereotypes is pretty tone deaf.\nShit man, I will fuck up some chicken, waffles and watermelon. Just can't imagine someone thought that was a good idea for the first day of black history.",
">\n\nThis.",
">\n\nFor those asking what the problem is with chicken and waffles -\n\nThey served something different from what was planned for the day, and the meal is attached to stereotypes.\nThey went out of their way to serve a watermelon dessert, which has been confirmed as being an extremely rare item.\nThe company did something similar in 2018, and terminated employees who organized it, indicating there was at least something going on that shouldn't have occurred. [src]\nThey also had an issue in 2011 (I wasn't aware of it until reading this article, only the 2018 issue) with UC California-Irvine.\n\nIf it had already been planned and was a common meal, I don't think there'd have been an issue. But for them to change the planned meal on the first day of Black History Month and to include items that were outside the norm is a really bad look for the company and its employees at that school.\nIt's also telling that this is the third time (that we know of) that this has occurred with the same company.",
">\n\nWere green meals used to subjugate and disparage an entire race like watermelon was?\nWhat about pasta-stuffed pizza, or tacos? Either of those specifically used to disparage an entire race?\nNo? Then none of those examples compare.\nAww, what's wrong? Don't like being called out for using the argument racist people do?\nToo fucking bad.",
">\n\nNot the person you responded to, and I am still learning American history as I go. How did white Americans use watermelons to disparage black Americans?",
">\n\nThis is unacceptable! Under no circumstances should anyone ever apologize for serving chicken and waffles. The only acceptable apology is for not serving more chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nI worked in NYC schools for a while. What they should be apologizing for at most schools is serving a couple frozen processed chicken nuggets on a half-toasted eggo and calling it \"chicken and waffles\".",
">\n\nThat's not chicken and waffles! That's a being poor and just eating whatever you have in the freezer kind of meal.",
">\n\nI mean that's more or less the kind of budget public schools are working with. Not to mention that the people working in these kitchens are paid extremely poorly as well. Like 99% of problems in education in the USA, the solution is \"we need more money\". But hey as long as we can make sure grown men get paid millions of dollars to throw balls around and Jeff Bezos can play astronaut who cares about kids, right?",
">\n\nKeep in mind if you're looking at that and going \"wow that's actually a good pay\" keep in mind this is New York City, one of the most expensive spots in the country to live in. I was a high school special education teacher there for five years (and lived there before with even lower paying jobs for 7-8 years). Even if you're at the upper level of that pay scale you're pretty much putting 50% of your income straight into rent, even if you live in a cheap area.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it’s not easy to live here.",
">\n\nDefinitely isn't. I lived there 2006-2019, ended up landing in Michigan after a brief stint in North Carolina, I'm happy I spent such a large chunk of formative adult years there (I moved there right after college) because as someone who grew up in a small, non-diverse New England rural town it was a huge contrast. These days though when people ask if I miss NYC my answer is \"all the things I miss I can get when I go visit\".",
">\n\nThere's nothing wrong with chicken and waffles on any day.",
">\n\nNo, but there's a huge fucking issue with serving watermelon to black students on the first day of BHM...you know, the actual issue.",
">\n\nWhere do you even get fresh watermelon from in February? It's not in season until the end of summer.",
">\n\nLikely grown in south America somewhere.",
">\n\nThe one I got over the weekend said it came from Chile.",
">\n\nApologize for what. This is stupid.",
">\n\nThey changed the menu to serve Chicken and Waffles and Watermelon in honor of BHM.",
">\n\nTo be fair, per the article...\n\n\"While our menu was not intended as a cultural meal, we acknowledge that the timing was inappropriate, and our team should have been more thoughtful in its service,\" the Aramark statement said.\n\nHowever...\n\nAramark has found itself in similar situations in years past, including an incident in 2011 where UC California-Irvine, an Aramark client, was criticized for serving a \"MLH Holiday Special\" that featured chicken and waffles.\n\nSo, yeah, there's something rotten in Aramark.",
">\n\nI love what you did there.",
">\n\nChicken and waffles is fucking awesome",
">\n\nChicken and Waffles do not go with watermelon. That’s the issue. This was intentionally a racist joke.",
">\n\nAt this point the motivation was to be entirely racist. Nobody is going to believe anyone they didn’t know.",
">\n\nCan't believe if I'll be forced to not eat any of those on Black History Month.",
">\n\nexactly the shit only whites can be offended about in the name of others. no sane men should deny gods gift of chicken and waffles whatever the occasion.\nit may be a stereotype you recognize for racism, but it also, is fucking delicious.",
">\n\n\nIt's a stupid stereotype that's not even actually racist.\n\nExcept it IS a racist stereotype, has been for centuries, and continues to be so.\nJust because you don't like that it is, doesn't change that fact.\nAdditionally, no one uses the foods of the cultures you presented as a negative facet of their identity...and in fact this is the EXACT argument you see racist people use to say \"it's ok\" to be shitty towards black people.",
">\n\nI'm not explaining something to someone making obviously inflammatory commentary in bad faith. You know the issue isn't with chicken and waffles specifically, as it's been pointed out COUNTLESS times throughout this comment section. It's the inclusion of watermelon, a known negative stereotype.\nYou being ignorant of history isn't anyone's problem, but yours.\nAs for the rest of this tantrum?\nOk, 🤡.\nEdit: Imagine that. Blocking me after making a comment...sorry, throwing a tantrum. Comment:\n\nThe only one doing anything here in bad faith is the one with their silly clown emojis who refuses to support their point and instead prefers to sling mud.\n\nMy reply:\nYou came in here, making wildly racist claims about a topic you're obviously ignorant on, you double down on the racism and ignorance, and when called out and treated with the same respect as you have shown to others...you go into toddler mode.\nNah, I think I'm pretty fucking spot on with my assessment of you.",
">\n\nI'm personally offended that \na. we are eaten\nb. people are offended because we are eaten",
">\n\nSir, you have a license to cluck.",
">\n\nI can understand where they're coming from but as a (former) southerner you should never have to apologize for chicken and waffles.",
">\n\nagreed. if they are good. now bad... then yeah...",
">\n\n... Until it's realized all the cooks are black. \nAh, narrative shift, nothing to see here",
">\n\nTell that to the black student who was upset being served watermelon then.",
">\n\nWould it be ok on the 17th ?",
">\n\nOne of my few bright memories from elementary school were of getting to eat different foods from different places during holidays and what not. I'll never be able to eat another latke again, but, I digest,it seems like a foolhardy thing to get pissy about. It's a lot better than my Norwegian ass serving Lutefisk.",
">\n\nYou can make latkes, it's pretty easy",
">\n\nI’m white and grew in the south, personally I have a hard time understanding how this is wrong. Literally everyone besides probably the vegans moving from California love fried foods, for fucks sake some of the most popular items at the Texas State Fair have been fried candy bars and fried BUTTER. I literally eat fried chicken and waffles a few times a month and that’s because I’m on a diet and am trying to lose weight. When I was a kid when they were in season we literally used to go through at least one watermelon a week and I’m not taking about those small snack size ones. Pro tip if you have a waffle maker; cornbread waffles. Enough said… The only thing they were missing was fried okra which is the only side dish anyone ever needs.\nAlso not every stereotype has to have a negative connotation. I’m Jewish and most of us like stereotypical foods. When I was a kid and went to shul after the service there would usually be a spread with bagels, schmear, sometimes lox, kugel, gefilte fish (absolutely disgusting), and when we were really lucky a cholent.",
">\n\nIt’s the watermelon 🍉 and the chicken 🍗 combination that is offensive. Not the chicken and waffles part. Weird headline.",
">\n\nThey're mad because it should be a weekly menu item!",
">\n\nHold the phone. Aren't waffles like European? Explain like i'm five how waffles are racist while I make me a Belgian waffle with lingonberry and whipped cream. Hold the phone again. Nutella and whipped cream. (Don't have any lingonberries handy) Ok, now explain.",
">\n\nIt’s a stereotype that black people like friend chicken. Also they served watermelon. Which is stereotypically associated being enjoyed by blavk people.\nIt’s sort of like having turkish week and serving shishkabob, indian week and serving curry, greek week serving chicken fries and tzatziki and so on and so forth",
">\n\nWatermelon is not associated with being enjoyed by black people… everyone likes a watermelon on a summer day.",
">\n\nHow about you google it real quick, just to make sure",
">\n\nNo need to do so, I live in a country where most people are white and everyone likes watermelon anyway.",
">\n\nAbsurdly stupid association, made up by people who want to create conflicts for fun.\nEveryone likes watermelons, independent on skin colour.\nI would be happy for a slice of watermelon for lunch, and it has nothing to do with my race.",
">\n\nSure. Everyone likes it.\nBut you're literally ignoring that it was a stereotype for so long that we have newspaper cartoons 150 years old making fun of it.\nI agree it's a stupid association, but it's a real stereotype: even the Larry David bit is making fun of it.\n\"It's a stupid stereotype so it doesn't exist\" isn't the best take on it.",
">\n\nThis made-up “issue” takes attention away from real racism such as violence or doctors thinking black people feel less pain.",
">\n\nI don't think it was made up so much as just tone deaf.\nEveryone likes chicken and waffles.\nMaybe not doing it for a special Black history event seems like a reasonable compromise.",
">\n\nOnly offensive if they were shitty (which they probably were)",
">\n\nIsn't this an example of being racially sensitive (the good type of steriotype), as opposed to insensitive (the bad type)? That's a good thing!\nIt's like serving a man a steak on the first date. You're being sensitive to their gender by getting a positive steriotype right",
">\n\nThe issue isn't the chicken and waffles. It's the fact that it was served with watermelon.\nNuance is a thing.",
">\n\nI guess it’s only ok to stereotype food if there is a nationality behind it 🤣🤣🤣",
">\n\n\"How can we show black students we care this month? Ideas?\"\n\"We could reduce them to food stereotypes?\"\n\"Nailed it. Get to work.\"",
">\n\nIf done right, this could actually be pretty cool. Problem is, they'd never do it right.",
">\n\nImagine being this childish...then throwing blatant racism on top of it.",
">\n\nI'm just curious are black people complaining or are white people complaining for black people ?",
">\n\nA black sixth grade student complained.",
">\n\nIt never fails, racists love to do this type of shit, especially during black history month.",
">\n\nIt was the piss pumpkin that was the topping on the insult.",
">\n\nwhy?? its food.. stop being judgmental people..",
">\n\nSilly. I mean, c'mon, we got major global issues going on, & someone's getting butt hurt over chicken, waffles & watermelon. Sounds good to me!!",
">\n\nWe have to stop this shit in particular. Chicken, waffles, and watermelon are a good goddamn meal and it fucking sucks that a fucking stereotype is making people enjoy that shit less.",
">\n\nIf you gave me tacos and menudo on Mexican independence I'd be happy",
">\n\nIf you don't like chicken and watermelon something is wrong with YOU!",
">\n\nAnd now, in breaking news, Luigi is offended by linguini..."
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Here is why institutional racism is a problem... WHICH members of Congress? The one that has more white guys named Tom than all minorities combined?
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I find it kind of weird that the report summations only cite "top senior" staffers. It acknowledges progress, shows a vast gap between both parties as well as ideological subgroups of those parties, but still frames it as a "both sides" issue which doesn't seem to advance their point.
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When will the rates of job application matter to outlets churning out pieces with SJ veneer? Simply holding the staffer distribution against the general population tacitly posits that each race applies to each job in each industry at commensurate rates. Which is laughable.
If the race ratio of applicants varies significantly from that of the hired, then there’s certainly something here. But those numbers never make it into these pieces because, perhaps, they don’t always align with the narrative the publication’s readers are expecting/comfortable with. In other words, it’s not the right truth.
Either put forth a genuine effort to show that there is a tangible result of bias against POC in these hirings, or get on a different topic altogether. But these outlets need to stop churning out pieces with SJ flavor and nothing actionable. It turns what a large slice of the population believes to be a real struggle with class mobility/better wages into garden variety entertainment, just like the next thing in our doom scroll feeds. And the next thing, and the next.
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">\n\nI find it kind of weird that the report summations only cite \"top senior\" staffers. It acknowledges progress, shows a vast gap between both parties as well as ideological subgroups of those parties, but still frames it as a \"both sides\" issue which doesn't seem to advance their point."
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"Here is why institutional racism is a problem... WHICH members of Congress? The one that has more white guys named Tom than all minorities combined?",
">\n\nI find it kind of weird that the report summations only cite \"top senior\" staffers. It acknowledges progress, shows a vast gap between both parties as well as ideological subgroups of those parties, but still frames it as a \"both sides\" issue which doesn't seem to advance their point.",
">\n\nWhen will the rates of job application matter to outlets churning out pieces with SJ veneer? Simply holding the staffer distribution against the general population tacitly posits that each race applies to each job in each industry at commensurate rates. Which is laughable.\nIf the race ratio of applicants varies significantly from that of the hired, then there’s certainly something here. But those numbers never make it into these pieces because, perhaps, they don’t always align with the narrative the publication’s readers are expecting/comfortable with. In other words, it’s not the right truth.\nEither put forth a genuine effort to show that there is a tangible result of bias against POC in these hirings, or get on a different topic altogether. But these outlets need to stop churning out pieces with SJ flavor and nothing actionable. It turns what a large slice of the population believes to be a real struggle with class mobility/better wages into garden variety entertainment, just like the next thing in our doom scroll feeds. And the next thing, and the next."
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This is a bullshit "both sides are bad" article. One party does it's best for diversity and inclusion, the other party is trying to bring back Jim crow and slavery and this person lumps them in together
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"Here is why institutional racism is a problem... WHICH members of Congress? The one that has more white guys named Tom than all minorities combined?",
">\n\nI find it kind of weird that the report summations only cite \"top senior\" staffers. It acknowledges progress, shows a vast gap between both parties as well as ideological subgroups of those parties, but still frames it as a \"both sides\" issue which doesn't seem to advance their point.",
">\n\nWhen will the rates of job application matter to outlets churning out pieces with SJ veneer? Simply holding the staffer distribution against the general population tacitly posits that each race applies to each job in each industry at commensurate rates. Which is laughable.\nIf the race ratio of applicants varies significantly from that of the hired, then there’s certainly something here. But those numbers never make it into these pieces because, perhaps, they don’t always align with the narrative the publication’s readers are expecting/comfortable with. In other words, it’s not the right truth.\nEither put forth a genuine effort to show that there is a tangible result of bias against POC in these hirings, or get on a different topic altogether. But these outlets need to stop churning out pieces with SJ flavor and nothing actionable. It turns what a large slice of the population believes to be a real struggle with class mobility/better wages into garden variety entertainment, just like the next thing in our doom scroll feeds. And the next thing, and the next.",
">\n\nVery well said"
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That's not how I read it. To me it was trying to say that senior staffers (the top position while being a staffer) was still largely white.
I would assume the Democratic Party has a diverse slate of junior and mid level staffers, but leadership is still a bunch of white baby boomers. It would also not surprise me if the GQP is almost entirely white with a handful of token hires.
But I agree. Shitty journalism for not making it more explicitly clear.
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"Here is why institutional racism is a problem... WHICH members of Congress? The one that has more white guys named Tom than all minorities combined?",
">\n\nI find it kind of weird that the report summations only cite \"top senior\" staffers. It acknowledges progress, shows a vast gap between both parties as well as ideological subgroups of those parties, but still frames it as a \"both sides\" issue which doesn't seem to advance their point.",
">\n\nWhen will the rates of job application matter to outlets churning out pieces with SJ veneer? Simply holding the staffer distribution against the general population tacitly posits that each race applies to each job in each industry at commensurate rates. Which is laughable.\nIf the race ratio of applicants varies significantly from that of the hired, then there’s certainly something here. But those numbers never make it into these pieces because, perhaps, they don’t always align with the narrative the publication’s readers are expecting/comfortable with. In other words, it’s not the right truth.\nEither put forth a genuine effort to show that there is a tangible result of bias against POC in these hirings, or get on a different topic altogether. But these outlets need to stop churning out pieces with SJ flavor and nothing actionable. It turns what a large slice of the population believes to be a real struggle with class mobility/better wages into garden variety entertainment, just like the next thing in our doom scroll feeds. And the next thing, and the next.",
">\n\nVery well said",
">\n\nThis is a bullshit \"both sides are bad\" article. One party does it's best for diversity and inclusion, the other party is trying to bring back Jim crow and slavery and this person lumps them in together"
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"Here is why institutional racism is a problem... WHICH members of Congress? The one that has more white guys named Tom than all minorities combined?",
">\n\nI find it kind of weird that the report summations only cite \"top senior\" staffers. It acknowledges progress, shows a vast gap between both parties as well as ideological subgroups of those parties, but still frames it as a \"both sides\" issue which doesn't seem to advance their point.",
">\n\nWhen will the rates of job application matter to outlets churning out pieces with SJ veneer? Simply holding the staffer distribution against the general population tacitly posits that each race applies to each job in each industry at commensurate rates. Which is laughable.\nIf the race ratio of applicants varies significantly from that of the hired, then there’s certainly something here. But those numbers never make it into these pieces because, perhaps, they don’t always align with the narrative the publication’s readers are expecting/comfortable with. In other words, it’s not the right truth.\nEither put forth a genuine effort to show that there is a tangible result of bias against POC in these hirings, or get on a different topic altogether. But these outlets need to stop churning out pieces with SJ flavor and nothing actionable. It turns what a large slice of the population believes to be a real struggle with class mobility/better wages into garden variety entertainment, just like the next thing in our doom scroll feeds. And the next thing, and the next.",
">\n\nVery well said",
">\n\nThis is a bullshit \"both sides are bad\" article. One party does it's best for diversity and inclusion, the other party is trying to bring back Jim crow and slavery and this person lumps them in together",
">\n\nThat's not how I read it. To me it was trying to say that senior staffers (the top position while being a staffer) was still largely white. \nI would assume the Democratic Party has a diverse slate of junior and mid level staffers, but leadership is still a bunch of white baby boomers. It would also not surprise me if the GQP is almost entirely white with a handful of token hires. \nBut I agree. Shitty journalism for not making it more explicitly clear."
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Definitely an unpopular opinion, take me upvote. I’m someone who doesn’t enjoy talking to strangers or being bothered in public spaces. If I’m somewhere alone, chances are I either want to be alone, or I’m doing something I need to do and am just trying to get it done and leave. We’re certainly not ALL perpetually lonely. Many people enjoy alone time, and you’ve listed several different places that are popular for people to go / do by themselves for that reason.
That being said, your idea of having a designated space for people who DO want to socialize is an interesting idea. Like-minded people could convene in that area with the expectation of socializing with strangers, and those who don’t want to could go about their time unbothered. A win-win situation, if you will.
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Let me guess. You live in a city?
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"Definitely an unpopular opinion, take me upvote. I’m someone who doesn’t enjoy talking to strangers or being bothered in public spaces. If I’m somewhere alone, chances are I either want to be alone, or I’m doing something I need to do and am just trying to get it done and leave. We’re certainly not ALL perpetually lonely. Many people enjoy alone time, and you’ve listed several different places that are popular for people to go / do by themselves for that reason. \nThat being said, your idea of having a designated space for people who DO want to socialize is an interesting idea. Like-minded people could convene in that area with the expectation of socializing with strangers, and those who don’t want to could go about their time unbothered. A win-win situation, if you will."
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I do! Right in the middle of one lol.
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"Definitely an unpopular opinion, take me upvote. I’m someone who doesn’t enjoy talking to strangers or being bothered in public spaces. If I’m somewhere alone, chances are I either want to be alone, or I’m doing something I need to do and am just trying to get it done and leave. We’re certainly not ALL perpetually lonely. Many people enjoy alone time, and you’ve listed several different places that are popular for people to go / do by themselves for that reason. \nThat being said, your idea of having a designated space for people who DO want to socialize is an interesting idea. Like-minded people could convene in that area with the expectation of socializing with strangers, and those who don’t want to could go about their time unbothered. A win-win situation, if you will.",
">\n\nLet me guess. You live in a city?"
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Yeah that's a very city mindset to not understand the friendliness of people going past saying hello. Smiling and nodding or starting a casual chat for 5 minutes then getting on with their day.
It's okay. Not saying it's right or wrong. .
But you've been heavily influenced by city life.
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"Definitely an unpopular opinion, take me upvote. I’m someone who doesn’t enjoy talking to strangers or being bothered in public spaces. If I’m somewhere alone, chances are I either want to be alone, or I’m doing something I need to do and am just trying to get it done and leave. We’re certainly not ALL perpetually lonely. Many people enjoy alone time, and you’ve listed several different places that are popular for people to go / do by themselves for that reason. \nThat being said, your idea of having a designated space for people who DO want to socialize is an interesting idea. Like-minded people could convene in that area with the expectation of socializing with strangers, and those who don’t want to could go about their time unbothered. A win-win situation, if you will.",
">\n\nLet me guess. You live in a city?",
">\n\nI do! Right in the middle of one lol."
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I live in the suburb and grew up in a somewhat rural town. And i don't want to talk to strangers. I think it's more of a personality thing than where one lives. Kinda like introvert vs extrovert.
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"Definitely an unpopular opinion, take me upvote. I’m someone who doesn’t enjoy talking to strangers or being bothered in public spaces. If I’m somewhere alone, chances are I either want to be alone, or I’m doing something I need to do and am just trying to get it done and leave. We’re certainly not ALL perpetually lonely. Many people enjoy alone time, and you’ve listed several different places that are popular for people to go / do by themselves for that reason. \nThat being said, your idea of having a designated space for people who DO want to socialize is an interesting idea. Like-minded people could convene in that area with the expectation of socializing with strangers, and those who don’t want to could go about their time unbothered. A win-win situation, if you will.",
">\n\nLet me guess. You live in a city?",
">\n\nI do! Right in the middle of one lol.",
">\n\nYeah that's a very city mindset to not understand the friendliness of people going past saying hello. Smiling and nodding or starting a casual chat for 5 minutes then getting on with their day. \nIt's okay. Not saying it's right or wrong. .\nBut you've been heavily influenced by city life."
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We need to bring back "third places"
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"Definitely an unpopular opinion, take me upvote. I’m someone who doesn’t enjoy talking to strangers or being bothered in public spaces. If I’m somewhere alone, chances are I either want to be alone, or I’m doing something I need to do and am just trying to get it done and leave. We’re certainly not ALL perpetually lonely. Many people enjoy alone time, and you’ve listed several different places that are popular for people to go / do by themselves for that reason. \nThat being said, your idea of having a designated space for people who DO want to socialize is an interesting idea. Like-minded people could convene in that area with the expectation of socializing with strangers, and those who don’t want to could go about their time unbothered. A win-win situation, if you will.",
">\n\nLet me guess. You live in a city?",
">\n\nI do! Right in the middle of one lol.",
">\n\nYeah that's a very city mindset to not understand the friendliness of people going past saying hello. Smiling and nodding or starting a casual chat for 5 minutes then getting on with their day. \nIt's okay. Not saying it's right or wrong. .\nBut you've been heavily influenced by city life.",
">\n\nI live in the suburb and grew up in a somewhat rural town. And i don't want to talk to strangers. I think it's more of a personality thing than where one lives. Kinda like introvert vs extrovert."
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100%
The US has a serious lack of quality third places that aren’t trying to take your money at the same time. (Starbucks sorta tries but they’re also kinda expensive, and a lot of them aren’t the same after Covid)
I like public parks as a concept but when the weather is bad the only people at them are homeless with no where else to go. Sometimes I’ll start a conversation with the homeless person anyways cause some of them have interesting stories. And some of them have a brain completely rotted by meth & no understanding of what’s actually happening around them anymore.
I think bars in the US are supposed to be 3rd places but this does leave young people (18-20) with a conundrum of where the fuck to go to be social if all socialization/ adult events are locked behind an ID that says 21+
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"Definitely an unpopular opinion, take me upvote. I’m someone who doesn’t enjoy talking to strangers or being bothered in public spaces. If I’m somewhere alone, chances are I either want to be alone, or I’m doing something I need to do and am just trying to get it done and leave. We’re certainly not ALL perpetually lonely. Many people enjoy alone time, and you’ve listed several different places that are popular for people to go / do by themselves for that reason. \nThat being said, your idea of having a designated space for people who DO want to socialize is an interesting idea. Like-minded people could convene in that area with the expectation of socializing with strangers, and those who don’t want to could go about their time unbothered. A win-win situation, if you will.",
">\n\nLet me guess. You live in a city?",
">\n\nI do! Right in the middle of one lol.",
">\n\nYeah that's a very city mindset to not understand the friendliness of people going past saying hello. Smiling and nodding or starting a casual chat for 5 minutes then getting on with their day. \nIt's okay. Not saying it's right or wrong. .\nBut you've been heavily influenced by city life.",
">\n\nI live in the suburb and grew up in a somewhat rural town. And i don't want to talk to strangers. I think it's more of a personality thing than where one lives. Kinda like introvert vs extrovert.",
">\n\nWe need to bring back \"third places\""
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Hence why certain bars do long table and bench style seating. Its already a thing
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"Definitely an unpopular opinion, take me upvote. I’m someone who doesn’t enjoy talking to strangers or being bothered in public spaces. If I’m somewhere alone, chances are I either want to be alone, or I’m doing something I need to do and am just trying to get it done and leave. We’re certainly not ALL perpetually lonely. Many people enjoy alone time, and you’ve listed several different places that are popular for people to go / do by themselves for that reason. \nThat being said, your idea of having a designated space for people who DO want to socialize is an interesting idea. Like-minded people could convene in that area with the expectation of socializing with strangers, and those who don’t want to could go about their time unbothered. A win-win situation, if you will.",
">\n\nLet me guess. You live in a city?",
">\n\nI do! Right in the middle of one lol.",
">\n\nYeah that's a very city mindset to not understand the friendliness of people going past saying hello. Smiling and nodding or starting a casual chat for 5 minutes then getting on with their day. \nIt's okay. Not saying it's right or wrong. .\nBut you've been heavily influenced by city life.",
">\n\nI live in the suburb and grew up in a somewhat rural town. And i don't want to talk to strangers. I think it's more of a personality thing than where one lives. Kinda like introvert vs extrovert.",
">\n\nWe need to bring back \"third places\"",
">\n\n100%\nThe US has a serious lack of quality third places that aren’t trying to take your money at the same time. (Starbucks sorta tries but they’re also kinda expensive, and a lot of them aren’t the same after Covid) \nI like public parks as a concept but when the weather is bad the only people at them are homeless with no where else to go. Sometimes I’ll start a conversation with the homeless person anyways cause some of them have interesting stories. And some of them have a brain completely rotted by meth & no understanding of what’s actually happening around them anymore. \nI think bars in the US are supposed to be 3rd places but this does leave young people (18-20) with a conundrum of where the fuck to go to be social if all socialization/ adult events are locked behind an ID that says 21+"
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Do you just sit down and other strangers join you? Or is it a table you reservs in advance with friends?
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"Definitely an unpopular opinion, take me upvote. I’m someone who doesn’t enjoy talking to strangers or being bothered in public spaces. If I’m somewhere alone, chances are I either want to be alone, or I’m doing something I need to do and am just trying to get it done and leave. We’re certainly not ALL perpetually lonely. Many people enjoy alone time, and you’ve listed several different places that are popular for people to go / do by themselves for that reason. \nThat being said, your idea of having a designated space for people who DO want to socialize is an interesting idea. Like-minded people could convene in that area with the expectation of socializing with strangers, and those who don’t want to could go about their time unbothered. A win-win situation, if you will.",
">\n\nLet me guess. You live in a city?",
">\n\nI do! Right in the middle of one lol.",
">\n\nYeah that's a very city mindset to not understand the friendliness of people going past saying hello. Smiling and nodding or starting a casual chat for 5 minutes then getting on with their day. \nIt's okay. Not saying it's right or wrong. .\nBut you've been heavily influenced by city life.",
">\n\nI live in the suburb and grew up in a somewhat rural town. And i don't want to talk to strangers. I think it's more of a personality thing than where one lives. Kinda like introvert vs extrovert.",
">\n\nWe need to bring back \"third places\"",
">\n\n100%\nThe US has a serious lack of quality third places that aren’t trying to take your money at the same time. (Starbucks sorta tries but they’re also kinda expensive, and a lot of them aren’t the same after Covid) \nI like public parks as a concept but when the weather is bad the only people at them are homeless with no where else to go. Sometimes I’ll start a conversation with the homeless person anyways cause some of them have interesting stories. And some of them have a brain completely rotted by meth & no understanding of what’s actually happening around them anymore. \nI think bars in the US are supposed to be 3rd places but this does leave young people (18-20) with a conundrum of where the fuck to go to be social if all socialization/ adult events are locked behind an ID that says 21+",
">\n\nHence why certain bars do long table and bench style seating. Its already a thing"
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Think 3 rows of tables with maybe room for 20 people on each side of a table. Obviously people tend to stagger thier seating initially. As the night goes on, and seating options become limited, people end up filling up all of said seats. Alcohol+people=drunk conversations.
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"Definitely an unpopular opinion, take me upvote. I’m someone who doesn’t enjoy talking to strangers or being bothered in public spaces. If I’m somewhere alone, chances are I either want to be alone, or I’m doing something I need to do and am just trying to get it done and leave. We’re certainly not ALL perpetually lonely. Many people enjoy alone time, and you’ve listed several different places that are popular for people to go / do by themselves for that reason. \nThat being said, your idea of having a designated space for people who DO want to socialize is an interesting idea. Like-minded people could convene in that area with the expectation of socializing with strangers, and those who don’t want to could go about their time unbothered. A win-win situation, if you will.",
">\n\nLet me guess. You live in a city?",
">\n\nI do! Right in the middle of one lol.",
">\n\nYeah that's a very city mindset to not understand the friendliness of people going past saying hello. Smiling and nodding or starting a casual chat for 5 minutes then getting on with their day. \nIt's okay. Not saying it's right or wrong. .\nBut you've been heavily influenced by city life.",
">\n\nI live in the suburb and grew up in a somewhat rural town. And i don't want to talk to strangers. I think it's more of a personality thing than where one lives. Kinda like introvert vs extrovert.",
">\n\nWe need to bring back \"third places\"",
">\n\n100%\nThe US has a serious lack of quality third places that aren’t trying to take your money at the same time. (Starbucks sorta tries but they’re also kinda expensive, and a lot of them aren’t the same after Covid) \nI like public parks as a concept but when the weather is bad the only people at them are homeless with no where else to go. Sometimes I’ll start a conversation with the homeless person anyways cause some of them have interesting stories. And some of them have a brain completely rotted by meth & no understanding of what’s actually happening around them anymore. \nI think bars in the US are supposed to be 3rd places but this does leave young people (18-20) with a conundrum of where the fuck to go to be social if all socialization/ adult events are locked behind an ID that says 21+",
">\n\nHence why certain bars do long table and bench style seating. Its already a thing",
">\n\nDo you just sit down and other strangers join you? Or is it a table you reservs in advance with friends?"
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I probably wouldn't use such a table because I prefer to be left alone if I'm dining by myself.
However, an evolution of your idea could be a switch or a toggle at each sitting area/table that changes between "socialization welcome" to "privacy, please," and when the person sits down, they just change the toggle to the appropriate sign.
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"Definitely an unpopular opinion, take me upvote. I’m someone who doesn’t enjoy talking to strangers or being bothered in public spaces. If I’m somewhere alone, chances are I either want to be alone, or I’m doing something I need to do and am just trying to get it done and leave. We’re certainly not ALL perpetually lonely. Many people enjoy alone time, and you’ve listed several different places that are popular for people to go / do by themselves for that reason. \nThat being said, your idea of having a designated space for people who DO want to socialize is an interesting idea. Like-minded people could convene in that area with the expectation of socializing with strangers, and those who don’t want to could go about their time unbothered. A win-win situation, if you will.",
">\n\nLet me guess. You live in a city?",
">\n\nI do! Right in the middle of one lol.",
">\n\nYeah that's a very city mindset to not understand the friendliness of people going past saying hello. Smiling and nodding or starting a casual chat for 5 minutes then getting on with their day. \nIt's okay. Not saying it's right or wrong. .\nBut you've been heavily influenced by city life.",
">\n\nI live in the suburb and grew up in a somewhat rural town. And i don't want to talk to strangers. I think it's more of a personality thing than where one lives. Kinda like introvert vs extrovert.",
">\n\nWe need to bring back \"third places\"",
">\n\n100%\nThe US has a serious lack of quality third places that aren’t trying to take your money at the same time. (Starbucks sorta tries but they’re also kinda expensive, and a lot of them aren’t the same after Covid) \nI like public parks as a concept but when the weather is bad the only people at them are homeless with no where else to go. Sometimes I’ll start a conversation with the homeless person anyways cause some of them have interesting stories. And some of them have a brain completely rotted by meth & no understanding of what’s actually happening around them anymore. \nI think bars in the US are supposed to be 3rd places but this does leave young people (18-20) with a conundrum of where the fuck to go to be social if all socialization/ adult events are locked behind an ID that says 21+",
">\n\nHence why certain bars do long table and bench style seating. Its already a thing",
">\n\nDo you just sit down and other strangers join you? Or is it a table you reservs in advance with friends?",
">\n\nThink 3 rows of tables with maybe room for 20 people on each side of a table. Obviously people tend to stagger thier seating initially. As the night goes on, and seating options become limited, people end up filling up all of said seats. Alcohol+people=drunk conversations."
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That's actually a pretty cool idea! Leave most tables as is so people can do their own thing if they want to, but keep that designated space for talking. More people would probably do it if there were a designated space and they didn't feel like they were bothering people.
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"Definitely an unpopular opinion, take me upvote. I’m someone who doesn’t enjoy talking to strangers or being bothered in public spaces. If I’m somewhere alone, chances are I either want to be alone, or I’m doing something I need to do and am just trying to get it done and leave. We’re certainly not ALL perpetually lonely. Many people enjoy alone time, and you’ve listed several different places that are popular for people to go / do by themselves for that reason. \nThat being said, your idea of having a designated space for people who DO want to socialize is an interesting idea. Like-minded people could convene in that area with the expectation of socializing with strangers, and those who don’t want to could go about their time unbothered. A win-win situation, if you will.",
">\n\nLet me guess. You live in a city?",
">\n\nI do! Right in the middle of one lol.",
">\n\nYeah that's a very city mindset to not understand the friendliness of people going past saying hello. Smiling and nodding or starting a casual chat for 5 minutes then getting on with their day. \nIt's okay. Not saying it's right or wrong. .\nBut you've been heavily influenced by city life.",
">\n\nI live in the suburb and grew up in a somewhat rural town. And i don't want to talk to strangers. I think it's more of a personality thing than where one lives. Kinda like introvert vs extrovert.",
">\n\nWe need to bring back \"third places\"",
">\n\n100%\nThe US has a serious lack of quality third places that aren’t trying to take your money at the same time. (Starbucks sorta tries but they’re also kinda expensive, and a lot of them aren’t the same after Covid) \nI like public parks as a concept but when the weather is bad the only people at them are homeless with no where else to go. Sometimes I’ll start a conversation with the homeless person anyways cause some of them have interesting stories. And some of them have a brain completely rotted by meth & no understanding of what’s actually happening around them anymore. \nI think bars in the US are supposed to be 3rd places but this does leave young people (18-20) with a conundrum of where the fuck to go to be social if all socialization/ adult events are locked behind an ID that says 21+",
">\n\nHence why certain bars do long table and bench style seating. Its already a thing",
">\n\nDo you just sit down and other strangers join you? Or is it a table you reservs in advance with friends?",
">\n\nThink 3 rows of tables with maybe room for 20 people on each side of a table. Obviously people tend to stagger thier seating initially. As the night goes on, and seating options become limited, people end up filling up all of said seats. Alcohol+people=drunk conversations.",
">\n\nI probably wouldn't use such a table because I prefer to be left alone if I'm dining by myself.\nHowever, an evolution of your idea could be a switch or a toggle at each sitting area/table that changes between \"socialization welcome\" to \"privacy, please,\" and when the person sits down, they just change the toggle to the appropriate sign."
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I second this. I’m confused why so many people are saying this is an insane idea? Nobody would be forcing you to sit in the designated social area.
I think a coffee shop/restaurant would be an awesome place for this. Yes bars exist, but there’s so many people that would benefit from cafes having this spot (sober people, elderly, people who just don’t enjoy loud bars!).
OP this is a brilliant idea, and I can say as someone who’s self-employed, and not in university, as well as wanting to make more friends who aren’t mostly just drinking buddies, I’d totally be willing to try this out!
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"Definitely an unpopular opinion, take me upvote. I’m someone who doesn’t enjoy talking to strangers or being bothered in public spaces. If I’m somewhere alone, chances are I either want to be alone, or I’m doing something I need to do and am just trying to get it done and leave. We’re certainly not ALL perpetually lonely. Many people enjoy alone time, and you’ve listed several different places that are popular for people to go / do by themselves for that reason. \nThat being said, your idea of having a designated space for people who DO want to socialize is an interesting idea. Like-minded people could convene in that area with the expectation of socializing with strangers, and those who don’t want to could go about their time unbothered. A win-win situation, if you will.",
">\n\nLet me guess. You live in a city?",
">\n\nI do! Right in the middle of one lol.",
">\n\nYeah that's a very city mindset to not understand the friendliness of people going past saying hello. Smiling and nodding or starting a casual chat for 5 minutes then getting on with their day. \nIt's okay. Not saying it's right or wrong. .\nBut you've been heavily influenced by city life.",
">\n\nI live in the suburb and grew up in a somewhat rural town. And i don't want to talk to strangers. I think it's more of a personality thing than where one lives. Kinda like introvert vs extrovert.",
">\n\nWe need to bring back \"third places\"",
">\n\n100%\nThe US has a serious lack of quality third places that aren’t trying to take your money at the same time. (Starbucks sorta tries but they’re also kinda expensive, and a lot of them aren’t the same after Covid) \nI like public parks as a concept but when the weather is bad the only people at them are homeless with no where else to go. Sometimes I’ll start a conversation with the homeless person anyways cause some of them have interesting stories. And some of them have a brain completely rotted by meth & no understanding of what’s actually happening around them anymore. \nI think bars in the US are supposed to be 3rd places but this does leave young people (18-20) with a conundrum of where the fuck to go to be social if all socialization/ adult events are locked behind an ID that says 21+",
">\n\nHence why certain bars do long table and bench style seating. Its already a thing",
">\n\nDo you just sit down and other strangers join you? Or is it a table you reservs in advance with friends?",
">\n\nThink 3 rows of tables with maybe room for 20 people on each side of a table. Obviously people tend to stagger thier seating initially. As the night goes on, and seating options become limited, people end up filling up all of said seats. Alcohol+people=drunk conversations.",
">\n\nI probably wouldn't use such a table because I prefer to be left alone if I'm dining by myself.\nHowever, an evolution of your idea could be a switch or a toggle at each sitting area/table that changes between \"socialization welcome\" to \"privacy, please,\" and when the person sits down, they just change the toggle to the appropriate sign.",
">\n\nThat's actually a pretty cool idea! Leave most tables as is so people can do their own thing if they want to, but keep that designated space for talking. More people would probably do it if there were a designated space and they didn't feel like they were bothering people."
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Most people don't want to meet random people in a 1 on 1 situation. They want to meet new people when they are already in a comfortable environment. It used to be the community you lived in was that comfortable environment. Urban sprawl, particularly in the western US, made sure communities died. We drive to and from our destination with no opportunity to meet people along the way.
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"Definitely an unpopular opinion, take me upvote. I’m someone who doesn’t enjoy talking to strangers or being bothered in public spaces. If I’m somewhere alone, chances are I either want to be alone, or I’m doing something I need to do and am just trying to get it done and leave. We’re certainly not ALL perpetually lonely. Many people enjoy alone time, and you’ve listed several different places that are popular for people to go / do by themselves for that reason. \nThat being said, your idea of having a designated space for people who DO want to socialize is an interesting idea. Like-minded people could convene in that area with the expectation of socializing with strangers, and those who don’t want to could go about their time unbothered. A win-win situation, if you will.",
">\n\nLet me guess. You live in a city?",
">\n\nI do! Right in the middle of one lol.",
">\n\nYeah that's a very city mindset to not understand the friendliness of people going past saying hello. Smiling and nodding or starting a casual chat for 5 minutes then getting on with their day. \nIt's okay. Not saying it's right or wrong. .\nBut you've been heavily influenced by city life.",
">\n\nI live in the suburb and grew up in a somewhat rural town. And i don't want to talk to strangers. I think it's more of a personality thing than where one lives. Kinda like introvert vs extrovert.",
">\n\nWe need to bring back \"third places\"",
">\n\n100%\nThe US has a serious lack of quality third places that aren’t trying to take your money at the same time. (Starbucks sorta tries but they’re also kinda expensive, and a lot of them aren’t the same after Covid) \nI like public parks as a concept but when the weather is bad the only people at them are homeless with no where else to go. Sometimes I’ll start a conversation with the homeless person anyways cause some of them have interesting stories. And some of them have a brain completely rotted by meth & no understanding of what’s actually happening around them anymore. \nI think bars in the US are supposed to be 3rd places but this does leave young people (18-20) with a conundrum of where the fuck to go to be social if all socialization/ adult events are locked behind an ID that says 21+",
">\n\nHence why certain bars do long table and bench style seating. Its already a thing",
">\n\nDo you just sit down and other strangers join you? Or is it a table you reservs in advance with friends?",
">\n\nThink 3 rows of tables with maybe room for 20 people on each side of a table. Obviously people tend to stagger thier seating initially. As the night goes on, and seating options become limited, people end up filling up all of said seats. Alcohol+people=drunk conversations.",
">\n\nI probably wouldn't use such a table because I prefer to be left alone if I'm dining by myself.\nHowever, an evolution of your idea could be a switch or a toggle at each sitting area/table that changes between \"socialization welcome\" to \"privacy, please,\" and when the person sits down, they just change the toggle to the appropriate sign.",
">\n\nThat's actually a pretty cool idea! Leave most tables as is so people can do their own thing if they want to, but keep that designated space for talking. More people would probably do it if there were a designated space and they didn't feel like they were bothering people.",
">\n\nI second this. I’m confused why so many people are saying this is an insane idea? Nobody would be forcing you to sit in the designated social area. \nI think a coffee shop/restaurant would be an awesome place for this. Yes bars exist, but there’s so many people that would benefit from cafes having this spot (sober people, elderly, people who just don’t enjoy loud bars!). \nOP this is a brilliant idea, and I can say as someone who’s self-employed, and not in university, as well as wanting to make more friends who aren’t mostly just drinking buddies, I’d totally be willing to try this out!"
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I really like this take.
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[
"Definitely an unpopular opinion, take me upvote. I’m someone who doesn’t enjoy talking to strangers or being bothered in public spaces. If I’m somewhere alone, chances are I either want to be alone, or I’m doing something I need to do and am just trying to get it done and leave. We’re certainly not ALL perpetually lonely. Many people enjoy alone time, and you’ve listed several different places that are popular for people to go / do by themselves for that reason. \nThat being said, your idea of having a designated space for people who DO want to socialize is an interesting idea. Like-minded people could convene in that area with the expectation of socializing with strangers, and those who don’t want to could go about their time unbothered. A win-win situation, if you will.",
">\n\nLet me guess. You live in a city?",
">\n\nI do! Right in the middle of one lol.",
">\n\nYeah that's a very city mindset to not understand the friendliness of people going past saying hello. Smiling and nodding or starting a casual chat for 5 minutes then getting on with their day. \nIt's okay. Not saying it's right or wrong. .\nBut you've been heavily influenced by city life.",
">\n\nI live in the suburb and grew up in a somewhat rural town. And i don't want to talk to strangers. I think it's more of a personality thing than where one lives. Kinda like introvert vs extrovert.",
">\n\nWe need to bring back \"third places\"",
">\n\n100%\nThe US has a serious lack of quality third places that aren’t trying to take your money at the same time. (Starbucks sorta tries but they’re also kinda expensive, and a lot of them aren’t the same after Covid) \nI like public parks as a concept but when the weather is bad the only people at them are homeless with no where else to go. Sometimes I’ll start a conversation with the homeless person anyways cause some of them have interesting stories. And some of them have a brain completely rotted by meth & no understanding of what’s actually happening around them anymore. \nI think bars in the US are supposed to be 3rd places but this does leave young people (18-20) with a conundrum of where the fuck to go to be social if all socialization/ adult events are locked behind an ID that says 21+",
">\n\nHence why certain bars do long table and bench style seating. Its already a thing",
">\n\nDo you just sit down and other strangers join you? Or is it a table you reservs in advance with friends?",
">\n\nThink 3 rows of tables with maybe room for 20 people on each side of a table. Obviously people tend to stagger thier seating initially. As the night goes on, and seating options become limited, people end up filling up all of said seats. Alcohol+people=drunk conversations.",
">\n\nI probably wouldn't use such a table because I prefer to be left alone if I'm dining by myself.\nHowever, an evolution of your idea could be a switch or a toggle at each sitting area/table that changes between \"socialization welcome\" to \"privacy, please,\" and when the person sits down, they just change the toggle to the appropriate sign.",
">\n\nThat's actually a pretty cool idea! Leave most tables as is so people can do their own thing if they want to, but keep that designated space for talking. More people would probably do it if there were a designated space and they didn't feel like they were bothering people.",
">\n\nI second this. I’m confused why so many people are saying this is an insane idea? Nobody would be forcing you to sit in the designated social area. \nI think a coffee shop/restaurant would be an awesome place for this. Yes bars exist, but there’s so many people that would benefit from cafes having this spot (sober people, elderly, people who just don’t enjoy loud bars!). \nOP this is a brilliant idea, and I can say as someone who’s self-employed, and not in university, as well as wanting to make more friends who aren’t mostly just drinking buddies, I’d totally be willing to try this out!",
">\n\nMost people don't want to meet random people in a 1 on 1 situation. They want to meet new people when they are already in a comfortable environment. It used to be the community you lived in was that comfortable environment. Urban sprawl, particularly in the western US, made sure communities died. We drive to and from our destination with no opportunity to meet people along the way."
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Not everyone is perpetually lonely, but for those that are it's fine to try to strike up a conversation as long as you respect their space if they don't want to engage.
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[
"Definitely an unpopular opinion, take me upvote. I’m someone who doesn’t enjoy talking to strangers or being bothered in public spaces. If I’m somewhere alone, chances are I either want to be alone, or I’m doing something I need to do and am just trying to get it done and leave. We’re certainly not ALL perpetually lonely. Many people enjoy alone time, and you’ve listed several different places that are popular for people to go / do by themselves for that reason. \nThat being said, your idea of having a designated space for people who DO want to socialize is an interesting idea. Like-minded people could convene in that area with the expectation of socializing with strangers, and those who don’t want to could go about their time unbothered. A win-win situation, if you will.",
">\n\nLet me guess. You live in a city?",
">\n\nI do! Right in the middle of one lol.",
">\n\nYeah that's a very city mindset to not understand the friendliness of people going past saying hello. Smiling and nodding or starting a casual chat for 5 minutes then getting on with their day. \nIt's okay. Not saying it's right or wrong. .\nBut you've been heavily influenced by city life.",
">\n\nI live in the suburb and grew up in a somewhat rural town. And i don't want to talk to strangers. I think it's more of a personality thing than where one lives. Kinda like introvert vs extrovert.",
">\n\nWe need to bring back \"third places\"",
">\n\n100%\nThe US has a serious lack of quality third places that aren’t trying to take your money at the same time. (Starbucks sorta tries but they’re also kinda expensive, and a lot of them aren’t the same after Covid) \nI like public parks as a concept but when the weather is bad the only people at them are homeless with no where else to go. Sometimes I’ll start a conversation with the homeless person anyways cause some of them have interesting stories. And some of them have a brain completely rotted by meth & no understanding of what’s actually happening around them anymore. \nI think bars in the US are supposed to be 3rd places but this does leave young people (18-20) with a conundrum of where the fuck to go to be social if all socialization/ adult events are locked behind an ID that says 21+",
">\n\nHence why certain bars do long table and bench style seating. Its already a thing",
">\n\nDo you just sit down and other strangers join you? Or is it a table you reservs in advance with friends?",
">\n\nThink 3 rows of tables with maybe room for 20 people on each side of a table. Obviously people tend to stagger thier seating initially. As the night goes on, and seating options become limited, people end up filling up all of said seats. Alcohol+people=drunk conversations.",
">\n\nI probably wouldn't use such a table because I prefer to be left alone if I'm dining by myself.\nHowever, an evolution of your idea could be a switch or a toggle at each sitting area/table that changes between \"socialization welcome\" to \"privacy, please,\" and when the person sits down, they just change the toggle to the appropriate sign.",
">\n\nThat's actually a pretty cool idea! Leave most tables as is so people can do their own thing if they want to, but keep that designated space for talking. More people would probably do it if there were a designated space and they didn't feel like they were bothering people.",
">\n\nI second this. I’m confused why so many people are saying this is an insane idea? Nobody would be forcing you to sit in the designated social area. \nI think a coffee shop/restaurant would be an awesome place for this. Yes bars exist, but there’s so many people that would benefit from cafes having this spot (sober people, elderly, people who just don’t enjoy loud bars!). \nOP this is a brilliant idea, and I can say as someone who’s self-employed, and not in university, as well as wanting to make more friends who aren’t mostly just drinking buddies, I’d totally be willing to try this out!",
">\n\nMost people don't want to meet random people in a 1 on 1 situation. They want to meet new people when they are already in a comfortable environment. It used to be the community you lived in was that comfortable environment. Urban sprawl, particularly in the western US, made sure communities died. We drive to and from our destination with no opportunity to meet people along the way.",
">\n\nI really like this take."
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You can be chatty with strangers just see how they respond and act accordingly.
Also, make sure it doesn’t seem like you are hitting on them. That will make many, women especially, not want to talk to you.
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[
"Definitely an unpopular opinion, take me upvote. I’m someone who doesn’t enjoy talking to strangers or being bothered in public spaces. If I’m somewhere alone, chances are I either want to be alone, or I’m doing something I need to do and am just trying to get it done and leave. We’re certainly not ALL perpetually lonely. Many people enjoy alone time, and you’ve listed several different places that are popular for people to go / do by themselves for that reason. \nThat being said, your idea of having a designated space for people who DO want to socialize is an interesting idea. Like-minded people could convene in that area with the expectation of socializing with strangers, and those who don’t want to could go about their time unbothered. A win-win situation, if you will.",
">\n\nLet me guess. You live in a city?",
">\n\nI do! Right in the middle of one lol.",
">\n\nYeah that's a very city mindset to not understand the friendliness of people going past saying hello. Smiling and nodding or starting a casual chat for 5 minutes then getting on with their day. \nIt's okay. Not saying it's right or wrong. .\nBut you've been heavily influenced by city life.",
">\n\nI live in the suburb and grew up in a somewhat rural town. And i don't want to talk to strangers. I think it's more of a personality thing than where one lives. Kinda like introvert vs extrovert.",
">\n\nWe need to bring back \"third places\"",
">\n\n100%\nThe US has a serious lack of quality third places that aren’t trying to take your money at the same time. (Starbucks sorta tries but they’re also kinda expensive, and a lot of them aren’t the same after Covid) \nI like public parks as a concept but when the weather is bad the only people at them are homeless with no where else to go. Sometimes I’ll start a conversation with the homeless person anyways cause some of them have interesting stories. And some of them have a brain completely rotted by meth & no understanding of what’s actually happening around them anymore. \nI think bars in the US are supposed to be 3rd places but this does leave young people (18-20) with a conundrum of where the fuck to go to be social if all socialization/ adult events are locked behind an ID that says 21+",
">\n\nHence why certain bars do long table and bench style seating. Its already a thing",
">\n\nDo you just sit down and other strangers join you? Or is it a table you reservs in advance with friends?",
">\n\nThink 3 rows of tables with maybe room for 20 people on each side of a table. Obviously people tend to stagger thier seating initially. As the night goes on, and seating options become limited, people end up filling up all of said seats. Alcohol+people=drunk conversations.",
">\n\nI probably wouldn't use such a table because I prefer to be left alone if I'm dining by myself.\nHowever, an evolution of your idea could be a switch or a toggle at each sitting area/table that changes between \"socialization welcome\" to \"privacy, please,\" and when the person sits down, they just change the toggle to the appropriate sign.",
">\n\nThat's actually a pretty cool idea! Leave most tables as is so people can do their own thing if they want to, but keep that designated space for talking. More people would probably do it if there were a designated space and they didn't feel like they were bothering people.",
">\n\nI second this. I’m confused why so many people are saying this is an insane idea? Nobody would be forcing you to sit in the designated social area. \nI think a coffee shop/restaurant would be an awesome place for this. Yes bars exist, but there’s so many people that would benefit from cafes having this spot (sober people, elderly, people who just don’t enjoy loud bars!). \nOP this is a brilliant idea, and I can say as someone who’s self-employed, and not in university, as well as wanting to make more friends who aren’t mostly just drinking buddies, I’d totally be willing to try this out!",
">\n\nMost people don't want to meet random people in a 1 on 1 situation. They want to meet new people when they are already in a comfortable environment. It used to be the community you lived in was that comfortable environment. Urban sprawl, particularly in the western US, made sure communities died. We drive to and from our destination with no opportunity to meet people along the way.",
">\n\nI really like this take.",
">\n\nNot everyone is perpetually lonely, but for those that are it's fine to try to strike up a conversation as long as you respect their space if they don't want to engage."
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Some people do not take the hint though. You have no idea how many people I deal with who will keep talking and talking despite me just giving short simple answers and facing away from them. Especially down south. But if I tell someone I don’t want to talk to them, they will get offended. So if body language doesn’t cut it, then I’m forced to either be rude or grin and bear it.
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[
"Definitely an unpopular opinion, take me upvote. I’m someone who doesn’t enjoy talking to strangers or being bothered in public spaces. If I’m somewhere alone, chances are I either want to be alone, or I’m doing something I need to do and am just trying to get it done and leave. We’re certainly not ALL perpetually lonely. Many people enjoy alone time, and you’ve listed several different places that are popular for people to go / do by themselves for that reason. \nThat being said, your idea of having a designated space for people who DO want to socialize is an interesting idea. Like-minded people could convene in that area with the expectation of socializing with strangers, and those who don’t want to could go about their time unbothered. A win-win situation, if you will.",
">\n\nLet me guess. You live in a city?",
">\n\nI do! Right in the middle of one lol.",
">\n\nYeah that's a very city mindset to not understand the friendliness of people going past saying hello. Smiling and nodding or starting a casual chat for 5 minutes then getting on with their day. \nIt's okay. Not saying it's right or wrong. .\nBut you've been heavily influenced by city life.",
">\n\nI live in the suburb and grew up in a somewhat rural town. And i don't want to talk to strangers. I think it's more of a personality thing than where one lives. Kinda like introvert vs extrovert.",
">\n\nWe need to bring back \"third places\"",
">\n\n100%\nThe US has a serious lack of quality third places that aren’t trying to take your money at the same time. (Starbucks sorta tries but they’re also kinda expensive, and a lot of them aren’t the same after Covid) \nI like public parks as a concept but when the weather is bad the only people at them are homeless with no where else to go. Sometimes I’ll start a conversation with the homeless person anyways cause some of them have interesting stories. And some of them have a brain completely rotted by meth & no understanding of what’s actually happening around them anymore. \nI think bars in the US are supposed to be 3rd places but this does leave young people (18-20) with a conundrum of where the fuck to go to be social if all socialization/ adult events are locked behind an ID that says 21+",
">\n\nHence why certain bars do long table and bench style seating. Its already a thing",
">\n\nDo you just sit down and other strangers join you? Or is it a table you reservs in advance with friends?",
">\n\nThink 3 rows of tables with maybe room for 20 people on each side of a table. Obviously people tend to stagger thier seating initially. As the night goes on, and seating options become limited, people end up filling up all of said seats. Alcohol+people=drunk conversations.",
">\n\nI probably wouldn't use such a table because I prefer to be left alone if I'm dining by myself.\nHowever, an evolution of your idea could be a switch or a toggle at each sitting area/table that changes between \"socialization welcome\" to \"privacy, please,\" and when the person sits down, they just change the toggle to the appropriate sign.",
">\n\nThat's actually a pretty cool idea! Leave most tables as is so people can do their own thing if they want to, but keep that designated space for talking. More people would probably do it if there were a designated space and they didn't feel like they were bothering people.",
">\n\nI second this. I’m confused why so many people are saying this is an insane idea? Nobody would be forcing you to sit in the designated social area. \nI think a coffee shop/restaurant would be an awesome place for this. Yes bars exist, but there’s so many people that would benefit from cafes having this spot (sober people, elderly, people who just don’t enjoy loud bars!). \nOP this is a brilliant idea, and I can say as someone who’s self-employed, and not in university, as well as wanting to make more friends who aren’t mostly just drinking buddies, I’d totally be willing to try this out!",
">\n\nMost people don't want to meet random people in a 1 on 1 situation. They want to meet new people when they are already in a comfortable environment. It used to be the community you lived in was that comfortable environment. Urban sprawl, particularly in the western US, made sure communities died. We drive to and from our destination with no opportunity to meet people along the way.",
">\n\nI really like this take.",
">\n\nNot everyone is perpetually lonely, but for those that are it's fine to try to strike up a conversation as long as you respect their space if they don't want to engage.",
">\n\nYou can be chatty with strangers just see how they respond and act accordingly.\nAlso, make sure it doesn’t seem like you are hitting on them. That will make many, women especially, not want to talk to you."
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Have you tried lying and saying you're in a hurry to get somewhere or late for something? Be like
"I'd love to stay and chat with you but I'm late for work" and proceed to speed walk away from them lmfao
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[
"Definitely an unpopular opinion, take me upvote. I’m someone who doesn’t enjoy talking to strangers or being bothered in public spaces. If I’m somewhere alone, chances are I either want to be alone, or I’m doing something I need to do and am just trying to get it done and leave. We’re certainly not ALL perpetually lonely. Many people enjoy alone time, and you’ve listed several different places that are popular for people to go / do by themselves for that reason. \nThat being said, your idea of having a designated space for people who DO want to socialize is an interesting idea. Like-minded people could convene in that area with the expectation of socializing with strangers, and those who don’t want to could go about their time unbothered. A win-win situation, if you will.",
">\n\nLet me guess. You live in a city?",
">\n\nI do! Right in the middle of one lol.",
">\n\nYeah that's a very city mindset to not understand the friendliness of people going past saying hello. Smiling and nodding or starting a casual chat for 5 minutes then getting on with their day. \nIt's okay. Not saying it's right or wrong. .\nBut you've been heavily influenced by city life.",
">\n\nI live in the suburb and grew up in a somewhat rural town. And i don't want to talk to strangers. I think it's more of a personality thing than where one lives. Kinda like introvert vs extrovert.",
">\n\nWe need to bring back \"third places\"",
">\n\n100%\nThe US has a serious lack of quality third places that aren’t trying to take your money at the same time. (Starbucks sorta tries but they’re also kinda expensive, and a lot of them aren’t the same after Covid) \nI like public parks as a concept but when the weather is bad the only people at them are homeless with no where else to go. Sometimes I’ll start a conversation with the homeless person anyways cause some of them have interesting stories. And some of them have a brain completely rotted by meth & no understanding of what’s actually happening around them anymore. \nI think bars in the US are supposed to be 3rd places but this does leave young people (18-20) with a conundrum of where the fuck to go to be social if all socialization/ adult events are locked behind an ID that says 21+",
">\n\nHence why certain bars do long table and bench style seating. Its already a thing",
">\n\nDo you just sit down and other strangers join you? Or is it a table you reservs in advance with friends?",
">\n\nThink 3 rows of tables with maybe room for 20 people on each side of a table. Obviously people tend to stagger thier seating initially. As the night goes on, and seating options become limited, people end up filling up all of said seats. Alcohol+people=drunk conversations.",
">\n\nI probably wouldn't use such a table because I prefer to be left alone if I'm dining by myself.\nHowever, an evolution of your idea could be a switch or a toggle at each sitting area/table that changes between \"socialization welcome\" to \"privacy, please,\" and when the person sits down, they just change the toggle to the appropriate sign.",
">\n\nThat's actually a pretty cool idea! Leave most tables as is so people can do their own thing if they want to, but keep that designated space for talking. More people would probably do it if there were a designated space and they didn't feel like they were bothering people.",
">\n\nI second this. I’m confused why so many people are saying this is an insane idea? Nobody would be forcing you to sit in the designated social area. \nI think a coffee shop/restaurant would be an awesome place for this. Yes bars exist, but there’s so many people that would benefit from cafes having this spot (sober people, elderly, people who just don’t enjoy loud bars!). \nOP this is a brilliant idea, and I can say as someone who’s self-employed, and not in university, as well as wanting to make more friends who aren’t mostly just drinking buddies, I’d totally be willing to try this out!",
">\n\nMost people don't want to meet random people in a 1 on 1 situation. They want to meet new people when they are already in a comfortable environment. It used to be the community you lived in was that comfortable environment. Urban sprawl, particularly in the western US, made sure communities died. We drive to and from our destination with no opportunity to meet people along the way.",
">\n\nI really like this take.",
">\n\nNot everyone is perpetually lonely, but for those that are it's fine to try to strike up a conversation as long as you respect their space if they don't want to engage.",
">\n\nYou can be chatty with strangers just see how they respond and act accordingly.\nAlso, make sure it doesn’t seem like you are hitting on them. That will make many, women especially, not want to talk to you.",
">\n\nSome people do not take the hint though. You have no idea how many people I deal with who will keep talking and talking despite me just giving short simple answers and facing away from them. Especially down south. But if I tell someone I don’t want to talk to them, they will get offended. So if body language doesn’t cut it, then I’m forced to either be rude or grin and bear it."
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normally i do but if i'm stuck in a line at a grocery store and simply just wanna vibe i can't lie, it sucks :(
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"Definitely an unpopular opinion, take me upvote. I’m someone who doesn’t enjoy talking to strangers or being bothered in public spaces. If I’m somewhere alone, chances are I either want to be alone, or I’m doing something I need to do and am just trying to get it done and leave. We’re certainly not ALL perpetually lonely. Many people enjoy alone time, and you’ve listed several different places that are popular for people to go / do by themselves for that reason. \nThat being said, your idea of having a designated space for people who DO want to socialize is an interesting idea. Like-minded people could convene in that area with the expectation of socializing with strangers, and those who don’t want to could go about their time unbothered. A win-win situation, if you will.",
">\n\nLet me guess. You live in a city?",
">\n\nI do! Right in the middle of one lol.",
">\n\nYeah that's a very city mindset to not understand the friendliness of people going past saying hello. Smiling and nodding or starting a casual chat for 5 minutes then getting on with their day. \nIt's okay. Not saying it's right or wrong. .\nBut you've been heavily influenced by city life.",
">\n\nI live in the suburb and grew up in a somewhat rural town. And i don't want to talk to strangers. I think it's more of a personality thing than where one lives. Kinda like introvert vs extrovert.",
">\n\nWe need to bring back \"third places\"",
">\n\n100%\nThe US has a serious lack of quality third places that aren’t trying to take your money at the same time. (Starbucks sorta tries but they’re also kinda expensive, and a lot of them aren’t the same after Covid) \nI like public parks as a concept but when the weather is bad the only people at them are homeless with no where else to go. Sometimes I’ll start a conversation with the homeless person anyways cause some of them have interesting stories. And some of them have a brain completely rotted by meth & no understanding of what’s actually happening around them anymore. \nI think bars in the US are supposed to be 3rd places but this does leave young people (18-20) with a conundrum of where the fuck to go to be social if all socialization/ adult events are locked behind an ID that says 21+",
">\n\nHence why certain bars do long table and bench style seating. Its already a thing",
">\n\nDo you just sit down and other strangers join you? Or is it a table you reservs in advance with friends?",
">\n\nThink 3 rows of tables with maybe room for 20 people on each side of a table. Obviously people tend to stagger thier seating initially. As the night goes on, and seating options become limited, people end up filling up all of said seats. Alcohol+people=drunk conversations.",
">\n\nI probably wouldn't use such a table because I prefer to be left alone if I'm dining by myself.\nHowever, an evolution of your idea could be a switch or a toggle at each sitting area/table that changes between \"socialization welcome\" to \"privacy, please,\" and when the person sits down, they just change the toggle to the appropriate sign.",
">\n\nThat's actually a pretty cool idea! Leave most tables as is so people can do their own thing if they want to, but keep that designated space for talking. More people would probably do it if there were a designated space and they didn't feel like they were bothering people.",
">\n\nI second this. I’m confused why so many people are saying this is an insane idea? Nobody would be forcing you to sit in the designated social area. \nI think a coffee shop/restaurant would be an awesome place for this. Yes bars exist, but there’s so many people that would benefit from cafes having this spot (sober people, elderly, people who just don’t enjoy loud bars!). \nOP this is a brilliant idea, and I can say as someone who’s self-employed, and not in university, as well as wanting to make more friends who aren’t mostly just drinking buddies, I’d totally be willing to try this out!",
">\n\nMost people don't want to meet random people in a 1 on 1 situation. They want to meet new people when they are already in a comfortable environment. It used to be the community you lived in was that comfortable environment. Urban sprawl, particularly in the western US, made sure communities died. We drive to and from our destination with no opportunity to meet people along the way.",
">\n\nI really like this take.",
">\n\nNot everyone is perpetually lonely, but for those that are it's fine to try to strike up a conversation as long as you respect their space if they don't want to engage.",
">\n\nYou can be chatty with strangers just see how they respond and act accordingly.\nAlso, make sure it doesn’t seem like you are hitting on them. That will make many, women especially, not want to talk to you.",
">\n\nSome people do not take the hint though. You have no idea how many people I deal with who will keep talking and talking despite me just giving short simple answers and facing away from them. Especially down south. But if I tell someone I don’t want to talk to them, they will get offended. So if body language doesn’t cut it, then I’m forced to either be rude or grin and bear it.",
">\n\nHave you tried lying and saying you're in a hurry to get somewhere or late for something? Be like \n\"I'd love to stay and chat with you but I'm late for work\" and proceed to speed walk away from them lmfao"
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I wouldn't mind this but sometimes I want to be left alone and sit quietly and think. This could be a thing as long as people didn't get angry or judgemental if someone declined to participate in socializing with them
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[
"Definitely an unpopular opinion, take me upvote. I’m someone who doesn’t enjoy talking to strangers or being bothered in public spaces. If I’m somewhere alone, chances are I either want to be alone, or I’m doing something I need to do and am just trying to get it done and leave. We’re certainly not ALL perpetually lonely. Many people enjoy alone time, and you’ve listed several different places that are popular for people to go / do by themselves for that reason. \nThat being said, your idea of having a designated space for people who DO want to socialize is an interesting idea. Like-minded people could convene in that area with the expectation of socializing with strangers, and those who don’t want to could go about their time unbothered. A win-win situation, if you will.",
">\n\nLet me guess. You live in a city?",
">\n\nI do! Right in the middle of one lol.",
">\n\nYeah that's a very city mindset to not understand the friendliness of people going past saying hello. Smiling and nodding or starting a casual chat for 5 minutes then getting on with their day. \nIt's okay. Not saying it's right or wrong. .\nBut you've been heavily influenced by city life.",
">\n\nI live in the suburb and grew up in a somewhat rural town. And i don't want to talk to strangers. I think it's more of a personality thing than where one lives. Kinda like introvert vs extrovert.",
">\n\nWe need to bring back \"third places\"",
">\n\n100%\nThe US has a serious lack of quality third places that aren’t trying to take your money at the same time. (Starbucks sorta tries but they’re also kinda expensive, and a lot of them aren’t the same after Covid) \nI like public parks as a concept but when the weather is bad the only people at them are homeless with no where else to go. Sometimes I’ll start a conversation with the homeless person anyways cause some of them have interesting stories. And some of them have a brain completely rotted by meth & no understanding of what’s actually happening around them anymore. \nI think bars in the US are supposed to be 3rd places but this does leave young people (18-20) with a conundrum of where the fuck to go to be social if all socialization/ adult events are locked behind an ID that says 21+",
">\n\nHence why certain bars do long table and bench style seating. Its already a thing",
">\n\nDo you just sit down and other strangers join you? Or is it a table you reservs in advance with friends?",
">\n\nThink 3 rows of tables with maybe room for 20 people on each side of a table. Obviously people tend to stagger thier seating initially. As the night goes on, and seating options become limited, people end up filling up all of said seats. Alcohol+people=drunk conversations.",
">\n\nI probably wouldn't use such a table because I prefer to be left alone if I'm dining by myself.\nHowever, an evolution of your idea could be a switch or a toggle at each sitting area/table that changes between \"socialization welcome\" to \"privacy, please,\" and when the person sits down, they just change the toggle to the appropriate sign.",
">\n\nThat's actually a pretty cool idea! Leave most tables as is so people can do their own thing if they want to, but keep that designated space for talking. More people would probably do it if there were a designated space and they didn't feel like they were bothering people.",
">\n\nI second this. I’m confused why so many people are saying this is an insane idea? Nobody would be forcing you to sit in the designated social area. \nI think a coffee shop/restaurant would be an awesome place for this. Yes bars exist, but there’s so many people that would benefit from cafes having this spot (sober people, elderly, people who just don’t enjoy loud bars!). \nOP this is a brilliant idea, and I can say as someone who’s self-employed, and not in university, as well as wanting to make more friends who aren’t mostly just drinking buddies, I’d totally be willing to try this out!",
">\n\nMost people don't want to meet random people in a 1 on 1 situation. They want to meet new people when they are already in a comfortable environment. It used to be the community you lived in was that comfortable environment. Urban sprawl, particularly in the western US, made sure communities died. We drive to and from our destination with no opportunity to meet people along the way.",
">\n\nI really like this take.",
">\n\nNot everyone is perpetually lonely, but for those that are it's fine to try to strike up a conversation as long as you respect their space if they don't want to engage.",
">\n\nYou can be chatty with strangers just see how they respond and act accordingly.\nAlso, make sure it doesn’t seem like you are hitting on them. That will make many, women especially, not want to talk to you.",
">\n\nSome people do not take the hint though. You have no idea how many people I deal with who will keep talking and talking despite me just giving short simple answers and facing away from them. Especially down south. But if I tell someone I don’t want to talk to them, they will get offended. So if body language doesn’t cut it, then I’m forced to either be rude or grin and bear it.",
">\n\nHave you tried lying and saying you're in a hurry to get somewhere or late for something? Be like \n\"I'd love to stay and chat with you but I'm late for work\" and proceed to speed walk away from them lmfao",
">\n\nnormally i do but if i'm stuck in a line at a grocery store and simply just wanna vibe i can't lie, it sucks :("
] |
>
Take my upvote, but leave me be.
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[
"Definitely an unpopular opinion, take me upvote. I’m someone who doesn’t enjoy talking to strangers or being bothered in public spaces. If I’m somewhere alone, chances are I either want to be alone, or I’m doing something I need to do and am just trying to get it done and leave. We’re certainly not ALL perpetually lonely. Many people enjoy alone time, and you’ve listed several different places that are popular for people to go / do by themselves for that reason. \nThat being said, your idea of having a designated space for people who DO want to socialize is an interesting idea. Like-minded people could convene in that area with the expectation of socializing with strangers, and those who don’t want to could go about their time unbothered. A win-win situation, if you will.",
">\n\nLet me guess. You live in a city?",
">\n\nI do! Right in the middle of one lol.",
">\n\nYeah that's a very city mindset to not understand the friendliness of people going past saying hello. Smiling and nodding or starting a casual chat for 5 minutes then getting on with their day. \nIt's okay. Not saying it's right or wrong. .\nBut you've been heavily influenced by city life.",
">\n\nI live in the suburb and grew up in a somewhat rural town. And i don't want to talk to strangers. I think it's more of a personality thing than where one lives. Kinda like introvert vs extrovert.",
">\n\nWe need to bring back \"third places\"",
">\n\n100%\nThe US has a serious lack of quality third places that aren’t trying to take your money at the same time. (Starbucks sorta tries but they’re also kinda expensive, and a lot of them aren’t the same after Covid) \nI like public parks as a concept but when the weather is bad the only people at them are homeless with no where else to go. Sometimes I’ll start a conversation with the homeless person anyways cause some of them have interesting stories. And some of them have a brain completely rotted by meth & no understanding of what’s actually happening around them anymore. \nI think bars in the US are supposed to be 3rd places but this does leave young people (18-20) with a conundrum of where the fuck to go to be social if all socialization/ adult events are locked behind an ID that says 21+",
">\n\nHence why certain bars do long table and bench style seating. Its already a thing",
">\n\nDo you just sit down and other strangers join you? Or is it a table you reservs in advance with friends?",
">\n\nThink 3 rows of tables with maybe room for 20 people on each side of a table. Obviously people tend to stagger thier seating initially. As the night goes on, and seating options become limited, people end up filling up all of said seats. Alcohol+people=drunk conversations.",
">\n\nI probably wouldn't use such a table because I prefer to be left alone if I'm dining by myself.\nHowever, an evolution of your idea could be a switch or a toggle at each sitting area/table that changes between \"socialization welcome\" to \"privacy, please,\" and when the person sits down, they just change the toggle to the appropriate sign.",
">\n\nThat's actually a pretty cool idea! Leave most tables as is so people can do their own thing if they want to, but keep that designated space for talking. More people would probably do it if there were a designated space and they didn't feel like they were bothering people.",
">\n\nI second this. I’m confused why so many people are saying this is an insane idea? Nobody would be forcing you to sit in the designated social area. \nI think a coffee shop/restaurant would be an awesome place for this. Yes bars exist, but there’s so many people that would benefit from cafes having this spot (sober people, elderly, people who just don’t enjoy loud bars!). \nOP this is a brilliant idea, and I can say as someone who’s self-employed, and not in university, as well as wanting to make more friends who aren’t mostly just drinking buddies, I’d totally be willing to try this out!",
">\n\nMost people don't want to meet random people in a 1 on 1 situation. They want to meet new people when they are already in a comfortable environment. It used to be the community you lived in was that comfortable environment. Urban sprawl, particularly in the western US, made sure communities died. We drive to and from our destination with no opportunity to meet people along the way.",
">\n\nI really like this take.",
">\n\nNot everyone is perpetually lonely, but for those that are it's fine to try to strike up a conversation as long as you respect their space if they don't want to engage.",
">\n\nYou can be chatty with strangers just see how they respond and act accordingly.\nAlso, make sure it doesn’t seem like you are hitting on them. That will make many, women especially, not want to talk to you.",
">\n\nSome people do not take the hint though. You have no idea how many people I deal with who will keep talking and talking despite me just giving short simple answers and facing away from them. Especially down south. But if I tell someone I don’t want to talk to them, they will get offended. So if body language doesn’t cut it, then I’m forced to either be rude or grin and bear it.",
">\n\nHave you tried lying and saying you're in a hurry to get somewhere or late for something? Be like \n\"I'd love to stay and chat with you but I'm late for work\" and proceed to speed walk away from them lmfao",
">\n\nnormally i do but if i'm stuck in a line at a grocery store and simply just wanna vibe i can't lie, it sucks :(",
">\n\nI wouldn't mind this but sometimes I want to be left alone and sit quietly and think. This could be a thing as long as people didn't get angry or judgemental if someone declined to participate in socializing with them"
] |
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I second this. 🙌
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[
"Definitely an unpopular opinion, take me upvote. I’m someone who doesn’t enjoy talking to strangers or being bothered in public spaces. If I’m somewhere alone, chances are I either want to be alone, or I’m doing something I need to do and am just trying to get it done and leave. We’re certainly not ALL perpetually lonely. Many people enjoy alone time, and you’ve listed several different places that are popular for people to go / do by themselves for that reason. \nThat being said, your idea of having a designated space for people who DO want to socialize is an interesting idea. Like-minded people could convene in that area with the expectation of socializing with strangers, and those who don’t want to could go about their time unbothered. A win-win situation, if you will.",
">\n\nLet me guess. You live in a city?",
">\n\nI do! Right in the middle of one lol.",
">\n\nYeah that's a very city mindset to not understand the friendliness of people going past saying hello. Smiling and nodding or starting a casual chat for 5 minutes then getting on with their day. \nIt's okay. Not saying it's right or wrong. .\nBut you've been heavily influenced by city life.",
">\n\nI live in the suburb and grew up in a somewhat rural town. And i don't want to talk to strangers. I think it's more of a personality thing than where one lives. Kinda like introvert vs extrovert.",
">\n\nWe need to bring back \"third places\"",
">\n\n100%\nThe US has a serious lack of quality third places that aren’t trying to take your money at the same time. (Starbucks sorta tries but they’re also kinda expensive, and a lot of them aren’t the same after Covid) \nI like public parks as a concept but when the weather is bad the only people at them are homeless with no where else to go. Sometimes I’ll start a conversation with the homeless person anyways cause some of them have interesting stories. And some of them have a brain completely rotted by meth & no understanding of what’s actually happening around them anymore. \nI think bars in the US are supposed to be 3rd places but this does leave young people (18-20) with a conundrum of where the fuck to go to be social if all socialization/ adult events are locked behind an ID that says 21+",
">\n\nHence why certain bars do long table and bench style seating. Its already a thing",
">\n\nDo you just sit down and other strangers join you? Or is it a table you reservs in advance with friends?",
">\n\nThink 3 rows of tables with maybe room for 20 people on each side of a table. Obviously people tend to stagger thier seating initially. As the night goes on, and seating options become limited, people end up filling up all of said seats. Alcohol+people=drunk conversations.",
">\n\nI probably wouldn't use such a table because I prefer to be left alone if I'm dining by myself.\nHowever, an evolution of your idea could be a switch or a toggle at each sitting area/table that changes between \"socialization welcome\" to \"privacy, please,\" and when the person sits down, they just change the toggle to the appropriate sign.",
">\n\nThat's actually a pretty cool idea! Leave most tables as is so people can do their own thing if they want to, but keep that designated space for talking. More people would probably do it if there were a designated space and they didn't feel like they were bothering people.",
">\n\nI second this. I’m confused why so many people are saying this is an insane idea? Nobody would be forcing you to sit in the designated social area. \nI think a coffee shop/restaurant would be an awesome place for this. Yes bars exist, but there’s so many people that would benefit from cafes having this spot (sober people, elderly, people who just don’t enjoy loud bars!). \nOP this is a brilliant idea, and I can say as someone who’s self-employed, and not in university, as well as wanting to make more friends who aren’t mostly just drinking buddies, I’d totally be willing to try this out!",
">\n\nMost people don't want to meet random people in a 1 on 1 situation. They want to meet new people when they are already in a comfortable environment. It used to be the community you lived in was that comfortable environment. Urban sprawl, particularly in the western US, made sure communities died. We drive to and from our destination with no opportunity to meet people along the way.",
">\n\nI really like this take.",
">\n\nNot everyone is perpetually lonely, but for those that are it's fine to try to strike up a conversation as long as you respect their space if they don't want to engage.",
">\n\nYou can be chatty with strangers just see how they respond and act accordingly.\nAlso, make sure it doesn’t seem like you are hitting on them. That will make many, women especially, not want to talk to you.",
">\n\nSome people do not take the hint though. You have no idea how many people I deal with who will keep talking and talking despite me just giving short simple answers and facing away from them. Especially down south. But if I tell someone I don’t want to talk to them, they will get offended. So if body language doesn’t cut it, then I’m forced to either be rude or grin and bear it.",
">\n\nHave you tried lying and saying you're in a hurry to get somewhere or late for something? Be like \n\"I'd love to stay and chat with you but I'm late for work\" and proceed to speed walk away from them lmfao",
">\n\nnormally i do but if i'm stuck in a line at a grocery store and simply just wanna vibe i can't lie, it sucks :(",
">\n\nI wouldn't mind this but sometimes I want to be left alone and sit quietly and think. This could be a thing as long as people didn't get angry or judgemental if someone declined to participate in socializing with them",
">\n\nTake my upvote, but leave me be."
] |
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Sit at the bar/counter.
|
[
"Definitely an unpopular opinion, take me upvote. I’m someone who doesn’t enjoy talking to strangers or being bothered in public spaces. If I’m somewhere alone, chances are I either want to be alone, or I’m doing something I need to do and am just trying to get it done and leave. We’re certainly not ALL perpetually lonely. Many people enjoy alone time, and you’ve listed several different places that are popular for people to go / do by themselves for that reason. \nThat being said, your idea of having a designated space for people who DO want to socialize is an interesting idea. Like-minded people could convene in that area with the expectation of socializing with strangers, and those who don’t want to could go about their time unbothered. A win-win situation, if you will.",
">\n\nLet me guess. You live in a city?",
">\n\nI do! Right in the middle of one lol.",
">\n\nYeah that's a very city mindset to not understand the friendliness of people going past saying hello. Smiling and nodding or starting a casual chat for 5 minutes then getting on with their day. \nIt's okay. Not saying it's right or wrong. .\nBut you've been heavily influenced by city life.",
">\n\nI live in the suburb and grew up in a somewhat rural town. And i don't want to talk to strangers. I think it's more of a personality thing than where one lives. Kinda like introvert vs extrovert.",
">\n\nWe need to bring back \"third places\"",
">\n\n100%\nThe US has a serious lack of quality third places that aren’t trying to take your money at the same time. (Starbucks sorta tries but they’re also kinda expensive, and a lot of them aren’t the same after Covid) \nI like public parks as a concept but when the weather is bad the only people at them are homeless with no where else to go. Sometimes I’ll start a conversation with the homeless person anyways cause some of them have interesting stories. And some of them have a brain completely rotted by meth & no understanding of what’s actually happening around them anymore. \nI think bars in the US are supposed to be 3rd places but this does leave young people (18-20) with a conundrum of where the fuck to go to be social if all socialization/ adult events are locked behind an ID that says 21+",
">\n\nHence why certain bars do long table and bench style seating. Its already a thing",
">\n\nDo you just sit down and other strangers join you? Or is it a table you reservs in advance with friends?",
">\n\nThink 3 rows of tables with maybe room for 20 people on each side of a table. Obviously people tend to stagger thier seating initially. As the night goes on, and seating options become limited, people end up filling up all of said seats. Alcohol+people=drunk conversations.",
">\n\nI probably wouldn't use such a table because I prefer to be left alone if I'm dining by myself.\nHowever, an evolution of your idea could be a switch or a toggle at each sitting area/table that changes between \"socialization welcome\" to \"privacy, please,\" and when the person sits down, they just change the toggle to the appropriate sign.",
">\n\nThat's actually a pretty cool idea! Leave most tables as is so people can do their own thing if they want to, but keep that designated space for talking. More people would probably do it if there were a designated space and they didn't feel like they were bothering people.",
">\n\nI second this. I’m confused why so many people are saying this is an insane idea? Nobody would be forcing you to sit in the designated social area. \nI think a coffee shop/restaurant would be an awesome place for this. Yes bars exist, but there’s so many people that would benefit from cafes having this spot (sober people, elderly, people who just don’t enjoy loud bars!). \nOP this is a brilliant idea, and I can say as someone who’s self-employed, and not in university, as well as wanting to make more friends who aren’t mostly just drinking buddies, I’d totally be willing to try this out!",
">\n\nMost people don't want to meet random people in a 1 on 1 situation. They want to meet new people when they are already in a comfortable environment. It used to be the community you lived in was that comfortable environment. Urban sprawl, particularly in the western US, made sure communities died. We drive to and from our destination with no opportunity to meet people along the way.",
">\n\nI really like this take.",
">\n\nNot everyone is perpetually lonely, but for those that are it's fine to try to strike up a conversation as long as you respect their space if they don't want to engage.",
">\n\nYou can be chatty with strangers just see how they respond and act accordingly.\nAlso, make sure it doesn’t seem like you are hitting on them. That will make many, women especially, not want to talk to you.",
">\n\nSome people do not take the hint though. You have no idea how many people I deal with who will keep talking and talking despite me just giving short simple answers and facing away from them. Especially down south. But if I tell someone I don’t want to talk to them, they will get offended. So if body language doesn’t cut it, then I’m forced to either be rude or grin and bear it.",
">\n\nHave you tried lying and saying you're in a hurry to get somewhere or late for something? Be like \n\"I'd love to stay and chat with you but I'm late for work\" and proceed to speed walk away from them lmfao",
">\n\nnormally i do but if i'm stuck in a line at a grocery store and simply just wanna vibe i can't lie, it sucks :(",
">\n\nI wouldn't mind this but sometimes I want to be left alone and sit quietly and think. This could be a thing as long as people didn't get angry or judgemental if someone declined to participate in socializing with them",
">\n\nTake my upvote, but leave me be.",
">\n\nI second this. 🙌"
] |
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You know this is actually a nice idea.
Like hear me out, if you have this in those types of settings, then that means that you'll eliminate the problem of having strangers come up to you and talk to you when you don't want it.
It's a win win.
People who don't wanna talk get left alone and avoid being disturbed, and those that do can find someone who also wants to talk to them without having to annoy those that don't.
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[
"Definitely an unpopular opinion, take me upvote. I’m someone who doesn’t enjoy talking to strangers or being bothered in public spaces. If I’m somewhere alone, chances are I either want to be alone, or I’m doing something I need to do and am just trying to get it done and leave. We’re certainly not ALL perpetually lonely. Many people enjoy alone time, and you’ve listed several different places that are popular for people to go / do by themselves for that reason. \nThat being said, your idea of having a designated space for people who DO want to socialize is an interesting idea. Like-minded people could convene in that area with the expectation of socializing with strangers, and those who don’t want to could go about their time unbothered. A win-win situation, if you will.",
">\n\nLet me guess. You live in a city?",
">\n\nI do! Right in the middle of one lol.",
">\n\nYeah that's a very city mindset to not understand the friendliness of people going past saying hello. Smiling and nodding or starting a casual chat for 5 minutes then getting on with their day. \nIt's okay. Not saying it's right or wrong. .\nBut you've been heavily influenced by city life.",
">\n\nI live in the suburb and grew up in a somewhat rural town. And i don't want to talk to strangers. I think it's more of a personality thing than where one lives. Kinda like introvert vs extrovert.",
">\n\nWe need to bring back \"third places\"",
">\n\n100%\nThe US has a serious lack of quality third places that aren’t trying to take your money at the same time. (Starbucks sorta tries but they’re also kinda expensive, and a lot of them aren’t the same after Covid) \nI like public parks as a concept but when the weather is bad the only people at them are homeless with no where else to go. Sometimes I’ll start a conversation with the homeless person anyways cause some of them have interesting stories. And some of them have a brain completely rotted by meth & no understanding of what’s actually happening around them anymore. \nI think bars in the US are supposed to be 3rd places but this does leave young people (18-20) with a conundrum of where the fuck to go to be social if all socialization/ adult events are locked behind an ID that says 21+",
">\n\nHence why certain bars do long table and bench style seating. Its already a thing",
">\n\nDo you just sit down and other strangers join you? Or is it a table you reservs in advance with friends?",
">\n\nThink 3 rows of tables with maybe room for 20 people on each side of a table. Obviously people tend to stagger thier seating initially. As the night goes on, and seating options become limited, people end up filling up all of said seats. Alcohol+people=drunk conversations.",
">\n\nI probably wouldn't use such a table because I prefer to be left alone if I'm dining by myself.\nHowever, an evolution of your idea could be a switch or a toggle at each sitting area/table that changes between \"socialization welcome\" to \"privacy, please,\" and when the person sits down, they just change the toggle to the appropriate sign.",
">\n\nThat's actually a pretty cool idea! Leave most tables as is so people can do their own thing if they want to, but keep that designated space for talking. More people would probably do it if there were a designated space and they didn't feel like they were bothering people.",
">\n\nI second this. I’m confused why so many people are saying this is an insane idea? Nobody would be forcing you to sit in the designated social area. \nI think a coffee shop/restaurant would be an awesome place for this. Yes bars exist, but there’s so many people that would benefit from cafes having this spot (sober people, elderly, people who just don’t enjoy loud bars!). \nOP this is a brilliant idea, and I can say as someone who’s self-employed, and not in university, as well as wanting to make more friends who aren’t mostly just drinking buddies, I’d totally be willing to try this out!",
">\n\nMost people don't want to meet random people in a 1 on 1 situation. They want to meet new people when they are already in a comfortable environment. It used to be the community you lived in was that comfortable environment. Urban sprawl, particularly in the western US, made sure communities died. We drive to and from our destination with no opportunity to meet people along the way.",
">\n\nI really like this take.",
">\n\nNot everyone is perpetually lonely, but for those that are it's fine to try to strike up a conversation as long as you respect their space if they don't want to engage.",
">\n\nYou can be chatty with strangers just see how they respond and act accordingly.\nAlso, make sure it doesn’t seem like you are hitting on them. That will make many, women especially, not want to talk to you.",
">\n\nSome people do not take the hint though. You have no idea how many people I deal with who will keep talking and talking despite me just giving short simple answers and facing away from them. Especially down south. But if I tell someone I don’t want to talk to them, they will get offended. So if body language doesn’t cut it, then I’m forced to either be rude or grin and bear it.",
">\n\nHave you tried lying and saying you're in a hurry to get somewhere or late for something? Be like \n\"I'd love to stay and chat with you but I'm late for work\" and proceed to speed walk away from them lmfao",
">\n\nnormally i do but if i'm stuck in a line at a grocery store and simply just wanna vibe i can't lie, it sucks :(",
">\n\nI wouldn't mind this but sometimes I want to be left alone and sit quietly and think. This could be a thing as long as people didn't get angry or judgemental if someone declined to participate in socializing with them",
">\n\nTake my upvote, but leave me be.",
">\n\nI second this. 🙌",
">\n\nSit at the bar/counter."
] |
>
If it's a designated space and people don't *have* to sit there it's okay. I'd like to left alone in these places.
|
[
"Definitely an unpopular opinion, take me upvote. I’m someone who doesn’t enjoy talking to strangers or being bothered in public spaces. If I’m somewhere alone, chances are I either want to be alone, or I’m doing something I need to do and am just trying to get it done and leave. We’re certainly not ALL perpetually lonely. Many people enjoy alone time, and you’ve listed several different places that are popular for people to go / do by themselves for that reason. \nThat being said, your idea of having a designated space for people who DO want to socialize is an interesting idea. Like-minded people could convene in that area with the expectation of socializing with strangers, and those who don’t want to could go about their time unbothered. A win-win situation, if you will.",
">\n\nLet me guess. You live in a city?",
">\n\nI do! Right in the middle of one lol.",
">\n\nYeah that's a very city mindset to not understand the friendliness of people going past saying hello. Smiling and nodding or starting a casual chat for 5 minutes then getting on with their day. \nIt's okay. Not saying it's right or wrong. .\nBut you've been heavily influenced by city life.",
">\n\nI live in the suburb and grew up in a somewhat rural town. And i don't want to talk to strangers. I think it's more of a personality thing than where one lives. Kinda like introvert vs extrovert.",
">\n\nWe need to bring back \"third places\"",
">\n\n100%\nThe US has a serious lack of quality third places that aren’t trying to take your money at the same time. (Starbucks sorta tries but they’re also kinda expensive, and a lot of them aren’t the same after Covid) \nI like public parks as a concept but when the weather is bad the only people at them are homeless with no where else to go. Sometimes I’ll start a conversation with the homeless person anyways cause some of them have interesting stories. And some of them have a brain completely rotted by meth & no understanding of what’s actually happening around them anymore. \nI think bars in the US are supposed to be 3rd places but this does leave young people (18-20) with a conundrum of where the fuck to go to be social if all socialization/ adult events are locked behind an ID that says 21+",
">\n\nHence why certain bars do long table and bench style seating. Its already a thing",
">\n\nDo you just sit down and other strangers join you? Or is it a table you reservs in advance with friends?",
">\n\nThink 3 rows of tables with maybe room for 20 people on each side of a table. Obviously people tend to stagger thier seating initially. As the night goes on, and seating options become limited, people end up filling up all of said seats. Alcohol+people=drunk conversations.",
">\n\nI probably wouldn't use such a table because I prefer to be left alone if I'm dining by myself.\nHowever, an evolution of your idea could be a switch or a toggle at each sitting area/table that changes between \"socialization welcome\" to \"privacy, please,\" and when the person sits down, they just change the toggle to the appropriate sign.",
">\n\nThat's actually a pretty cool idea! Leave most tables as is so people can do their own thing if they want to, but keep that designated space for talking. More people would probably do it if there were a designated space and they didn't feel like they were bothering people.",
">\n\nI second this. I’m confused why so many people are saying this is an insane idea? Nobody would be forcing you to sit in the designated social area. \nI think a coffee shop/restaurant would be an awesome place for this. Yes bars exist, but there’s so many people that would benefit from cafes having this spot (sober people, elderly, people who just don’t enjoy loud bars!). \nOP this is a brilliant idea, and I can say as someone who’s self-employed, and not in university, as well as wanting to make more friends who aren’t mostly just drinking buddies, I’d totally be willing to try this out!",
">\n\nMost people don't want to meet random people in a 1 on 1 situation. They want to meet new people when they are already in a comfortable environment. It used to be the community you lived in was that comfortable environment. Urban sprawl, particularly in the western US, made sure communities died. We drive to and from our destination with no opportunity to meet people along the way.",
">\n\nI really like this take.",
">\n\nNot everyone is perpetually lonely, but for those that are it's fine to try to strike up a conversation as long as you respect their space if they don't want to engage.",
">\n\nYou can be chatty with strangers just see how they respond and act accordingly.\nAlso, make sure it doesn’t seem like you are hitting on them. That will make many, women especially, not want to talk to you.",
">\n\nSome people do not take the hint though. You have no idea how many people I deal with who will keep talking and talking despite me just giving short simple answers and facing away from them. Especially down south. But if I tell someone I don’t want to talk to them, they will get offended. So if body language doesn’t cut it, then I’m forced to either be rude or grin and bear it.",
">\n\nHave you tried lying and saying you're in a hurry to get somewhere or late for something? Be like \n\"I'd love to stay and chat with you but I'm late for work\" and proceed to speed walk away from them lmfao",
">\n\nnormally i do but if i'm stuck in a line at a grocery store and simply just wanna vibe i can't lie, it sucks :(",
">\n\nI wouldn't mind this but sometimes I want to be left alone and sit quietly and think. This could be a thing as long as people didn't get angry or judgemental if someone declined to participate in socializing with them",
">\n\nTake my upvote, but leave me be.",
">\n\nI second this. 🙌",
">\n\nSit at the bar/counter.",
">\n\nYou know this is actually a nice idea.\nLike hear me out, if you have this in those types of settings, then that means that you'll eliminate the problem of having strangers come up to you and talk to you when you don't want it.\nIt's a win win.\nPeople who don't wanna talk get left alone and avoid being disturbed, and those that do can find someone who also wants to talk to them without having to annoy those that don't."
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The bar
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[
"Definitely an unpopular opinion, take me upvote. I’m someone who doesn’t enjoy talking to strangers or being bothered in public spaces. If I’m somewhere alone, chances are I either want to be alone, or I’m doing something I need to do and am just trying to get it done and leave. We’re certainly not ALL perpetually lonely. Many people enjoy alone time, and you’ve listed several different places that are popular for people to go / do by themselves for that reason. \nThat being said, your idea of having a designated space for people who DO want to socialize is an interesting idea. Like-minded people could convene in that area with the expectation of socializing with strangers, and those who don’t want to could go about their time unbothered. A win-win situation, if you will.",
">\n\nLet me guess. You live in a city?",
">\n\nI do! Right in the middle of one lol.",
">\n\nYeah that's a very city mindset to not understand the friendliness of people going past saying hello. Smiling and nodding or starting a casual chat for 5 minutes then getting on with their day. \nIt's okay. Not saying it's right or wrong. .\nBut you've been heavily influenced by city life.",
">\n\nI live in the suburb and grew up in a somewhat rural town. And i don't want to talk to strangers. I think it's more of a personality thing than where one lives. Kinda like introvert vs extrovert.",
">\n\nWe need to bring back \"third places\"",
">\n\n100%\nThe US has a serious lack of quality third places that aren’t trying to take your money at the same time. (Starbucks sorta tries but they’re also kinda expensive, and a lot of them aren’t the same after Covid) \nI like public parks as a concept but when the weather is bad the only people at them are homeless with no where else to go. Sometimes I’ll start a conversation with the homeless person anyways cause some of them have interesting stories. And some of them have a brain completely rotted by meth & no understanding of what’s actually happening around them anymore. \nI think bars in the US are supposed to be 3rd places but this does leave young people (18-20) with a conundrum of where the fuck to go to be social if all socialization/ adult events are locked behind an ID that says 21+",
">\n\nHence why certain bars do long table and bench style seating. Its already a thing",
">\n\nDo you just sit down and other strangers join you? Or is it a table you reservs in advance with friends?",
">\n\nThink 3 rows of tables with maybe room for 20 people on each side of a table. Obviously people tend to stagger thier seating initially. As the night goes on, and seating options become limited, people end up filling up all of said seats. Alcohol+people=drunk conversations.",
">\n\nI probably wouldn't use such a table because I prefer to be left alone if I'm dining by myself.\nHowever, an evolution of your idea could be a switch or a toggle at each sitting area/table that changes between \"socialization welcome\" to \"privacy, please,\" and when the person sits down, they just change the toggle to the appropriate sign.",
">\n\nThat's actually a pretty cool idea! Leave most tables as is so people can do their own thing if they want to, but keep that designated space for talking. More people would probably do it if there were a designated space and they didn't feel like they were bothering people.",
">\n\nI second this. I’m confused why so many people are saying this is an insane idea? Nobody would be forcing you to sit in the designated social area. \nI think a coffee shop/restaurant would be an awesome place for this. Yes bars exist, but there’s so many people that would benefit from cafes having this spot (sober people, elderly, people who just don’t enjoy loud bars!). \nOP this is a brilliant idea, and I can say as someone who’s self-employed, and not in university, as well as wanting to make more friends who aren’t mostly just drinking buddies, I’d totally be willing to try this out!",
">\n\nMost people don't want to meet random people in a 1 on 1 situation. They want to meet new people when they are already in a comfortable environment. It used to be the community you lived in was that comfortable environment. Urban sprawl, particularly in the western US, made sure communities died. We drive to and from our destination with no opportunity to meet people along the way.",
">\n\nI really like this take.",
">\n\nNot everyone is perpetually lonely, but for those that are it's fine to try to strike up a conversation as long as you respect their space if they don't want to engage.",
">\n\nYou can be chatty with strangers just see how they respond and act accordingly.\nAlso, make sure it doesn’t seem like you are hitting on them. That will make many, women especially, not want to talk to you.",
">\n\nSome people do not take the hint though. You have no idea how many people I deal with who will keep talking and talking despite me just giving short simple answers and facing away from them. Especially down south. But if I tell someone I don’t want to talk to them, they will get offended. So if body language doesn’t cut it, then I’m forced to either be rude or grin and bear it.",
">\n\nHave you tried lying and saying you're in a hurry to get somewhere or late for something? Be like \n\"I'd love to stay and chat with you but I'm late for work\" and proceed to speed walk away from them lmfao",
">\n\nnormally i do but if i'm stuck in a line at a grocery store and simply just wanna vibe i can't lie, it sucks :(",
">\n\nI wouldn't mind this but sometimes I want to be left alone and sit quietly and think. This could be a thing as long as people didn't get angry or judgemental if someone declined to participate in socializing with them",
">\n\nTake my upvote, but leave me be.",
">\n\nI second this. 🙌",
">\n\nSit at the bar/counter.",
">\n\nYou know this is actually a nice idea.\nLike hear me out, if you have this in those types of settings, then that means that you'll eliminate the problem of having strangers come up to you and talk to you when you don't want it.\nIt's a win win.\nPeople who don't wanna talk get left alone and avoid being disturbed, and those that do can find someone who also wants to talk to them without having to annoy those that don't.",
">\n\nIf it's a designated space and people don't *have* to sit there it's okay. I'd like to left alone in these places."
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The Blue Oyster?
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[
"Definitely an unpopular opinion, take me upvote. I’m someone who doesn’t enjoy talking to strangers or being bothered in public spaces. If I’m somewhere alone, chances are I either want to be alone, or I’m doing something I need to do and am just trying to get it done and leave. We’re certainly not ALL perpetually lonely. Many people enjoy alone time, and you’ve listed several different places that are popular for people to go / do by themselves for that reason. \nThat being said, your idea of having a designated space for people who DO want to socialize is an interesting idea. Like-minded people could convene in that area with the expectation of socializing with strangers, and those who don’t want to could go about their time unbothered. A win-win situation, if you will.",
">\n\nLet me guess. You live in a city?",
">\n\nI do! Right in the middle of one lol.",
">\n\nYeah that's a very city mindset to not understand the friendliness of people going past saying hello. Smiling and nodding or starting a casual chat for 5 minutes then getting on with their day. \nIt's okay. Not saying it's right or wrong. .\nBut you've been heavily influenced by city life.",
">\n\nI live in the suburb and grew up in a somewhat rural town. And i don't want to talk to strangers. I think it's more of a personality thing than where one lives. Kinda like introvert vs extrovert.",
">\n\nWe need to bring back \"third places\"",
">\n\n100%\nThe US has a serious lack of quality third places that aren’t trying to take your money at the same time. (Starbucks sorta tries but they’re also kinda expensive, and a lot of them aren’t the same after Covid) \nI like public parks as a concept but when the weather is bad the only people at them are homeless with no where else to go. Sometimes I’ll start a conversation with the homeless person anyways cause some of them have interesting stories. And some of them have a brain completely rotted by meth & no understanding of what’s actually happening around them anymore. \nI think bars in the US are supposed to be 3rd places but this does leave young people (18-20) with a conundrum of where the fuck to go to be social if all socialization/ adult events are locked behind an ID that says 21+",
">\n\nHence why certain bars do long table and bench style seating. Its already a thing",
">\n\nDo you just sit down and other strangers join you? Or is it a table you reservs in advance with friends?",
">\n\nThink 3 rows of tables with maybe room for 20 people on each side of a table. Obviously people tend to stagger thier seating initially. As the night goes on, and seating options become limited, people end up filling up all of said seats. Alcohol+people=drunk conversations.",
">\n\nI probably wouldn't use such a table because I prefer to be left alone if I'm dining by myself.\nHowever, an evolution of your idea could be a switch or a toggle at each sitting area/table that changes between \"socialization welcome\" to \"privacy, please,\" and when the person sits down, they just change the toggle to the appropriate sign.",
">\n\nThat's actually a pretty cool idea! Leave most tables as is so people can do their own thing if they want to, but keep that designated space for talking. More people would probably do it if there were a designated space and they didn't feel like they were bothering people.",
">\n\nI second this. I’m confused why so many people are saying this is an insane idea? Nobody would be forcing you to sit in the designated social area. \nI think a coffee shop/restaurant would be an awesome place for this. Yes bars exist, but there’s so many people that would benefit from cafes having this spot (sober people, elderly, people who just don’t enjoy loud bars!). \nOP this is a brilliant idea, and I can say as someone who’s self-employed, and not in university, as well as wanting to make more friends who aren’t mostly just drinking buddies, I’d totally be willing to try this out!",
">\n\nMost people don't want to meet random people in a 1 on 1 situation. They want to meet new people when they are already in a comfortable environment. It used to be the community you lived in was that comfortable environment. Urban sprawl, particularly in the western US, made sure communities died. We drive to and from our destination with no opportunity to meet people along the way.",
">\n\nI really like this take.",
">\n\nNot everyone is perpetually lonely, but for those that are it's fine to try to strike up a conversation as long as you respect their space if they don't want to engage.",
">\n\nYou can be chatty with strangers just see how they respond and act accordingly.\nAlso, make sure it doesn’t seem like you are hitting on them. That will make many, women especially, not want to talk to you.",
">\n\nSome people do not take the hint though. You have no idea how many people I deal with who will keep talking and talking despite me just giving short simple answers and facing away from them. Especially down south. But if I tell someone I don’t want to talk to them, they will get offended. So if body language doesn’t cut it, then I’m forced to either be rude or grin and bear it.",
">\n\nHave you tried lying and saying you're in a hurry to get somewhere or late for something? Be like \n\"I'd love to stay and chat with you but I'm late for work\" and proceed to speed walk away from them lmfao",
">\n\nnormally i do but if i'm stuck in a line at a grocery store and simply just wanna vibe i can't lie, it sucks :(",
">\n\nI wouldn't mind this but sometimes I want to be left alone and sit quietly and think. This could be a thing as long as people didn't get angry or judgemental if someone declined to participate in socializing with them",
">\n\nTake my upvote, but leave me be.",
">\n\nI second this. 🙌",
">\n\nSit at the bar/counter.",
">\n\nYou know this is actually a nice idea.\nLike hear me out, if you have this in those types of settings, then that means that you'll eliminate the problem of having strangers come up to you and talk to you when you don't want it.\nIt's a win win.\nPeople who don't wanna talk get left alone and avoid being disturbed, and those that do can find someone who also wants to talk to them without having to annoy those that don't.",
">\n\nIf it's a designated space and people don't *have* to sit there it's okay. I'd like to left alone in these places.",
">\n\nThe bar"
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Yeah I dont want to talk you though. I hate small talk. Most conversations with strangers is small talk
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[
"Definitely an unpopular opinion, take me upvote. I’m someone who doesn’t enjoy talking to strangers or being bothered in public spaces. If I’m somewhere alone, chances are I either want to be alone, or I’m doing something I need to do and am just trying to get it done and leave. We’re certainly not ALL perpetually lonely. Many people enjoy alone time, and you’ve listed several different places that are popular for people to go / do by themselves for that reason. \nThat being said, your idea of having a designated space for people who DO want to socialize is an interesting idea. Like-minded people could convene in that area with the expectation of socializing with strangers, and those who don’t want to could go about their time unbothered. A win-win situation, if you will.",
">\n\nLet me guess. You live in a city?",
">\n\nI do! Right in the middle of one lol.",
">\n\nYeah that's a very city mindset to not understand the friendliness of people going past saying hello. Smiling and nodding or starting a casual chat for 5 minutes then getting on with their day. \nIt's okay. Not saying it's right or wrong. .\nBut you've been heavily influenced by city life.",
">\n\nI live in the suburb and grew up in a somewhat rural town. And i don't want to talk to strangers. I think it's more of a personality thing than where one lives. Kinda like introvert vs extrovert.",
">\n\nWe need to bring back \"third places\"",
">\n\n100%\nThe US has a serious lack of quality third places that aren’t trying to take your money at the same time. (Starbucks sorta tries but they’re also kinda expensive, and a lot of them aren’t the same after Covid) \nI like public parks as a concept but when the weather is bad the only people at them are homeless with no where else to go. Sometimes I’ll start a conversation with the homeless person anyways cause some of them have interesting stories. And some of them have a brain completely rotted by meth & no understanding of what’s actually happening around them anymore. \nI think bars in the US are supposed to be 3rd places but this does leave young people (18-20) with a conundrum of where the fuck to go to be social if all socialization/ adult events are locked behind an ID that says 21+",
">\n\nHence why certain bars do long table and bench style seating. Its already a thing",
">\n\nDo you just sit down and other strangers join you? Or is it a table you reservs in advance with friends?",
">\n\nThink 3 rows of tables with maybe room for 20 people on each side of a table. Obviously people tend to stagger thier seating initially. As the night goes on, and seating options become limited, people end up filling up all of said seats. Alcohol+people=drunk conversations.",
">\n\nI probably wouldn't use such a table because I prefer to be left alone if I'm dining by myself.\nHowever, an evolution of your idea could be a switch or a toggle at each sitting area/table that changes between \"socialization welcome\" to \"privacy, please,\" and when the person sits down, they just change the toggle to the appropriate sign.",
">\n\nThat's actually a pretty cool idea! Leave most tables as is so people can do their own thing if they want to, but keep that designated space for talking. More people would probably do it if there were a designated space and they didn't feel like they were bothering people.",
">\n\nI second this. I’m confused why so many people are saying this is an insane idea? Nobody would be forcing you to sit in the designated social area. \nI think a coffee shop/restaurant would be an awesome place for this. Yes bars exist, but there’s so many people that would benefit from cafes having this spot (sober people, elderly, people who just don’t enjoy loud bars!). \nOP this is a brilliant idea, and I can say as someone who’s self-employed, and not in university, as well as wanting to make more friends who aren’t mostly just drinking buddies, I’d totally be willing to try this out!",
">\n\nMost people don't want to meet random people in a 1 on 1 situation. They want to meet new people when they are already in a comfortable environment. It used to be the community you lived in was that comfortable environment. Urban sprawl, particularly in the western US, made sure communities died. We drive to and from our destination with no opportunity to meet people along the way.",
">\n\nI really like this take.",
">\n\nNot everyone is perpetually lonely, but for those that are it's fine to try to strike up a conversation as long as you respect their space if they don't want to engage.",
">\n\nYou can be chatty with strangers just see how they respond and act accordingly.\nAlso, make sure it doesn’t seem like you are hitting on them. That will make many, women especially, not want to talk to you.",
">\n\nSome people do not take the hint though. You have no idea how many people I deal with who will keep talking and talking despite me just giving short simple answers and facing away from them. Especially down south. But if I tell someone I don’t want to talk to them, they will get offended. So if body language doesn’t cut it, then I’m forced to either be rude or grin and bear it.",
">\n\nHave you tried lying and saying you're in a hurry to get somewhere or late for something? Be like \n\"I'd love to stay and chat with you but I'm late for work\" and proceed to speed walk away from them lmfao",
">\n\nnormally i do but if i'm stuck in a line at a grocery store and simply just wanna vibe i can't lie, it sucks :(",
">\n\nI wouldn't mind this but sometimes I want to be left alone and sit quietly and think. This could be a thing as long as people didn't get angry or judgemental if someone declined to participate in socializing with them",
">\n\nTake my upvote, but leave me be.",
">\n\nI second this. 🙌",
">\n\nSit at the bar/counter.",
">\n\nYou know this is actually a nice idea.\nLike hear me out, if you have this in those types of settings, then that means that you'll eliminate the problem of having strangers come up to you and talk to you when you don't want it.\nIt's a win win.\nPeople who don't wanna talk get left alone and avoid being disturbed, and those that do can find someone who also wants to talk to them without having to annoy those that don't.",
">\n\nIf it's a designated space and people don't *have* to sit there it's okay. I'd like to left alone in these places.",
">\n\nThe bar",
">\n\nThe Blue Oyster?"
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Gave you an upvote, but really you just need some courage to talk to people. Most the time people just put up a wall because they are scared of getting hurt.
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[
"Definitely an unpopular opinion, take me upvote. I’m someone who doesn’t enjoy talking to strangers or being bothered in public spaces. If I’m somewhere alone, chances are I either want to be alone, or I’m doing something I need to do and am just trying to get it done and leave. We’re certainly not ALL perpetually lonely. Many people enjoy alone time, and you’ve listed several different places that are popular for people to go / do by themselves for that reason. \nThat being said, your idea of having a designated space for people who DO want to socialize is an interesting idea. Like-minded people could convene in that area with the expectation of socializing with strangers, and those who don’t want to could go about their time unbothered. A win-win situation, if you will.",
">\n\nLet me guess. You live in a city?",
">\n\nI do! Right in the middle of one lol.",
">\n\nYeah that's a very city mindset to not understand the friendliness of people going past saying hello. Smiling and nodding or starting a casual chat for 5 minutes then getting on with their day. \nIt's okay. Not saying it's right or wrong. .\nBut you've been heavily influenced by city life.",
">\n\nI live in the suburb and grew up in a somewhat rural town. And i don't want to talk to strangers. I think it's more of a personality thing than where one lives. Kinda like introvert vs extrovert.",
">\n\nWe need to bring back \"third places\"",
">\n\n100%\nThe US has a serious lack of quality third places that aren’t trying to take your money at the same time. (Starbucks sorta tries but they’re also kinda expensive, and a lot of them aren’t the same after Covid) \nI like public parks as a concept but when the weather is bad the only people at them are homeless with no where else to go. Sometimes I’ll start a conversation with the homeless person anyways cause some of them have interesting stories. And some of them have a brain completely rotted by meth & no understanding of what’s actually happening around them anymore. \nI think bars in the US are supposed to be 3rd places but this does leave young people (18-20) with a conundrum of where the fuck to go to be social if all socialization/ adult events are locked behind an ID that says 21+",
">\n\nHence why certain bars do long table and bench style seating. Its already a thing",
">\n\nDo you just sit down and other strangers join you? Or is it a table you reservs in advance with friends?",
">\n\nThink 3 rows of tables with maybe room for 20 people on each side of a table. Obviously people tend to stagger thier seating initially. As the night goes on, and seating options become limited, people end up filling up all of said seats. Alcohol+people=drunk conversations.",
">\n\nI probably wouldn't use such a table because I prefer to be left alone if I'm dining by myself.\nHowever, an evolution of your idea could be a switch or a toggle at each sitting area/table that changes between \"socialization welcome\" to \"privacy, please,\" and when the person sits down, they just change the toggle to the appropriate sign.",
">\n\nThat's actually a pretty cool idea! Leave most tables as is so people can do their own thing if they want to, but keep that designated space for talking. More people would probably do it if there were a designated space and they didn't feel like they were bothering people.",
">\n\nI second this. I’m confused why so many people are saying this is an insane idea? Nobody would be forcing you to sit in the designated social area. \nI think a coffee shop/restaurant would be an awesome place for this. Yes bars exist, but there’s so many people that would benefit from cafes having this spot (sober people, elderly, people who just don’t enjoy loud bars!). \nOP this is a brilliant idea, and I can say as someone who’s self-employed, and not in university, as well as wanting to make more friends who aren’t mostly just drinking buddies, I’d totally be willing to try this out!",
">\n\nMost people don't want to meet random people in a 1 on 1 situation. They want to meet new people when they are already in a comfortable environment. It used to be the community you lived in was that comfortable environment. Urban sprawl, particularly in the western US, made sure communities died. We drive to and from our destination with no opportunity to meet people along the way.",
">\n\nI really like this take.",
">\n\nNot everyone is perpetually lonely, but for those that are it's fine to try to strike up a conversation as long as you respect their space if they don't want to engage.",
">\n\nYou can be chatty with strangers just see how they respond and act accordingly.\nAlso, make sure it doesn’t seem like you are hitting on them. That will make many, women especially, not want to talk to you.",
">\n\nSome people do not take the hint though. You have no idea how many people I deal with who will keep talking and talking despite me just giving short simple answers and facing away from them. Especially down south. But if I tell someone I don’t want to talk to them, they will get offended. So if body language doesn’t cut it, then I’m forced to either be rude or grin and bear it.",
">\n\nHave you tried lying and saying you're in a hurry to get somewhere or late for something? Be like \n\"I'd love to stay and chat with you but I'm late for work\" and proceed to speed walk away from them lmfao",
">\n\nnormally i do but if i'm stuck in a line at a grocery store and simply just wanna vibe i can't lie, it sucks :(",
">\n\nI wouldn't mind this but sometimes I want to be left alone and sit quietly and think. This could be a thing as long as people didn't get angry or judgemental if someone declined to participate in socializing with them",
">\n\nTake my upvote, but leave me be.",
">\n\nI second this. 🙌",
">\n\nSit at the bar/counter.",
">\n\nYou know this is actually a nice idea.\nLike hear me out, if you have this in those types of settings, then that means that you'll eliminate the problem of having strangers come up to you and talk to you when you don't want it.\nIt's a win win.\nPeople who don't wanna talk get left alone and avoid being disturbed, and those that do can find someone who also wants to talk to them without having to annoy those that don't.",
">\n\nIf it's a designated space and people don't *have* to sit there it's okay. I'd like to left alone in these places.",
">\n\nThe bar",
">\n\nThe Blue Oyster?",
">\n\nYeah I dont want to talk you though. I hate small talk. Most conversations with strangers is small talk"
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I don't know if it's "unpopular" as far as opinions... but y'know what? I think it's an absolutely spectacular idea.
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[
"Definitely an unpopular opinion, take me upvote. I’m someone who doesn’t enjoy talking to strangers or being bothered in public spaces. If I’m somewhere alone, chances are I either want to be alone, or I’m doing something I need to do and am just trying to get it done and leave. We’re certainly not ALL perpetually lonely. Many people enjoy alone time, and you’ve listed several different places that are popular for people to go / do by themselves for that reason. \nThat being said, your idea of having a designated space for people who DO want to socialize is an interesting idea. Like-minded people could convene in that area with the expectation of socializing with strangers, and those who don’t want to could go about their time unbothered. A win-win situation, if you will.",
">\n\nLet me guess. You live in a city?",
">\n\nI do! Right in the middle of one lol.",
">\n\nYeah that's a very city mindset to not understand the friendliness of people going past saying hello. Smiling and nodding or starting a casual chat for 5 minutes then getting on with their day. \nIt's okay. Not saying it's right or wrong. .\nBut you've been heavily influenced by city life.",
">\n\nI live in the suburb and grew up in a somewhat rural town. And i don't want to talk to strangers. I think it's more of a personality thing than where one lives. Kinda like introvert vs extrovert.",
">\n\nWe need to bring back \"third places\"",
">\n\n100%\nThe US has a serious lack of quality third places that aren’t trying to take your money at the same time. (Starbucks sorta tries but they’re also kinda expensive, and a lot of them aren’t the same after Covid) \nI like public parks as a concept but when the weather is bad the only people at them are homeless with no where else to go. Sometimes I’ll start a conversation with the homeless person anyways cause some of them have interesting stories. And some of them have a brain completely rotted by meth & no understanding of what’s actually happening around them anymore. \nI think bars in the US are supposed to be 3rd places but this does leave young people (18-20) with a conundrum of where the fuck to go to be social if all socialization/ adult events are locked behind an ID that says 21+",
">\n\nHence why certain bars do long table and bench style seating. Its already a thing",
">\n\nDo you just sit down and other strangers join you? Or is it a table you reservs in advance with friends?",
">\n\nThink 3 rows of tables with maybe room for 20 people on each side of a table. Obviously people tend to stagger thier seating initially. As the night goes on, and seating options become limited, people end up filling up all of said seats. Alcohol+people=drunk conversations.",
">\n\nI probably wouldn't use such a table because I prefer to be left alone if I'm dining by myself.\nHowever, an evolution of your idea could be a switch or a toggle at each sitting area/table that changes between \"socialization welcome\" to \"privacy, please,\" and when the person sits down, they just change the toggle to the appropriate sign.",
">\n\nThat's actually a pretty cool idea! Leave most tables as is so people can do their own thing if they want to, but keep that designated space for talking. More people would probably do it if there were a designated space and they didn't feel like they were bothering people.",
">\n\nI second this. I’m confused why so many people are saying this is an insane idea? Nobody would be forcing you to sit in the designated social area. \nI think a coffee shop/restaurant would be an awesome place for this. Yes bars exist, but there’s so many people that would benefit from cafes having this spot (sober people, elderly, people who just don’t enjoy loud bars!). \nOP this is a brilliant idea, and I can say as someone who’s self-employed, and not in university, as well as wanting to make more friends who aren’t mostly just drinking buddies, I’d totally be willing to try this out!",
">\n\nMost people don't want to meet random people in a 1 on 1 situation. They want to meet new people when they are already in a comfortable environment. It used to be the community you lived in was that comfortable environment. Urban sprawl, particularly in the western US, made sure communities died. We drive to and from our destination with no opportunity to meet people along the way.",
">\n\nI really like this take.",
">\n\nNot everyone is perpetually lonely, but for those that are it's fine to try to strike up a conversation as long as you respect their space if they don't want to engage.",
">\n\nYou can be chatty with strangers just see how they respond and act accordingly.\nAlso, make sure it doesn’t seem like you are hitting on them. That will make many, women especially, not want to talk to you.",
">\n\nSome people do not take the hint though. You have no idea how many people I deal with who will keep talking and talking despite me just giving short simple answers and facing away from them. Especially down south. But if I tell someone I don’t want to talk to them, they will get offended. So if body language doesn’t cut it, then I’m forced to either be rude or grin and bear it.",
">\n\nHave you tried lying and saying you're in a hurry to get somewhere or late for something? Be like \n\"I'd love to stay and chat with you but I'm late for work\" and proceed to speed walk away from them lmfao",
">\n\nnormally i do but if i'm stuck in a line at a grocery store and simply just wanna vibe i can't lie, it sucks :(",
">\n\nI wouldn't mind this but sometimes I want to be left alone and sit quietly and think. This could be a thing as long as people didn't get angry or judgemental if someone declined to participate in socializing with them",
">\n\nTake my upvote, but leave me be.",
">\n\nI second this. 🙌",
">\n\nSit at the bar/counter.",
">\n\nYou know this is actually a nice idea.\nLike hear me out, if you have this in those types of settings, then that means that you'll eliminate the problem of having strangers come up to you and talk to you when you don't want it.\nIt's a win win.\nPeople who don't wanna talk get left alone and avoid being disturbed, and those that do can find someone who also wants to talk to them without having to annoy those that don't.",
">\n\nIf it's a designated space and people don't *have* to sit there it's okay. I'd like to left alone in these places.",
">\n\nThe bar",
">\n\nThe Blue Oyster?",
">\n\nYeah I dont want to talk you though. I hate small talk. Most conversations with strangers is small talk",
">\n\nGave you an upvote, but really you just need some courage to talk to people. Most the time people just put up a wall because they are scared of getting hurt."
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What bars and concerts are you going to that it’s not socially acceptable to talk to strangers?
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[
"Definitely an unpopular opinion, take me upvote. I’m someone who doesn’t enjoy talking to strangers or being bothered in public spaces. If I’m somewhere alone, chances are I either want to be alone, or I’m doing something I need to do and am just trying to get it done and leave. We’re certainly not ALL perpetually lonely. Many people enjoy alone time, and you’ve listed several different places that are popular for people to go / do by themselves for that reason. \nThat being said, your idea of having a designated space for people who DO want to socialize is an interesting idea. Like-minded people could convene in that area with the expectation of socializing with strangers, and those who don’t want to could go about their time unbothered. A win-win situation, if you will.",
">\n\nLet me guess. You live in a city?",
">\n\nI do! Right in the middle of one lol.",
">\n\nYeah that's a very city mindset to not understand the friendliness of people going past saying hello. Smiling and nodding or starting a casual chat for 5 minutes then getting on with their day. \nIt's okay. Not saying it's right or wrong. .\nBut you've been heavily influenced by city life.",
">\n\nI live in the suburb and grew up in a somewhat rural town. And i don't want to talk to strangers. I think it's more of a personality thing than where one lives. Kinda like introvert vs extrovert.",
">\n\nWe need to bring back \"third places\"",
">\n\n100%\nThe US has a serious lack of quality third places that aren’t trying to take your money at the same time. (Starbucks sorta tries but they’re also kinda expensive, and a lot of them aren’t the same after Covid) \nI like public parks as a concept but when the weather is bad the only people at them are homeless with no where else to go. Sometimes I’ll start a conversation with the homeless person anyways cause some of them have interesting stories. And some of them have a brain completely rotted by meth & no understanding of what’s actually happening around them anymore. \nI think bars in the US are supposed to be 3rd places but this does leave young people (18-20) with a conundrum of where the fuck to go to be social if all socialization/ adult events are locked behind an ID that says 21+",
">\n\nHence why certain bars do long table and bench style seating. Its already a thing",
">\n\nDo you just sit down and other strangers join you? Or is it a table you reservs in advance with friends?",
">\n\nThink 3 rows of tables with maybe room for 20 people on each side of a table. Obviously people tend to stagger thier seating initially. As the night goes on, and seating options become limited, people end up filling up all of said seats. Alcohol+people=drunk conversations.",
">\n\nI probably wouldn't use such a table because I prefer to be left alone if I'm dining by myself.\nHowever, an evolution of your idea could be a switch or a toggle at each sitting area/table that changes between \"socialization welcome\" to \"privacy, please,\" and when the person sits down, they just change the toggle to the appropriate sign.",
">\n\nThat's actually a pretty cool idea! Leave most tables as is so people can do their own thing if they want to, but keep that designated space for talking. More people would probably do it if there were a designated space and they didn't feel like they were bothering people.",
">\n\nI second this. I’m confused why so many people are saying this is an insane idea? Nobody would be forcing you to sit in the designated social area. \nI think a coffee shop/restaurant would be an awesome place for this. Yes bars exist, but there’s so many people that would benefit from cafes having this spot (sober people, elderly, people who just don’t enjoy loud bars!). \nOP this is a brilliant idea, and I can say as someone who’s self-employed, and not in university, as well as wanting to make more friends who aren’t mostly just drinking buddies, I’d totally be willing to try this out!",
">\n\nMost people don't want to meet random people in a 1 on 1 situation. They want to meet new people when they are already in a comfortable environment. It used to be the community you lived in was that comfortable environment. Urban sprawl, particularly in the western US, made sure communities died. We drive to and from our destination with no opportunity to meet people along the way.",
">\n\nI really like this take.",
">\n\nNot everyone is perpetually lonely, but for those that are it's fine to try to strike up a conversation as long as you respect their space if they don't want to engage.",
">\n\nYou can be chatty with strangers just see how they respond and act accordingly.\nAlso, make sure it doesn’t seem like you are hitting on them. That will make many, women especially, not want to talk to you.",
">\n\nSome people do not take the hint though. You have no idea how many people I deal with who will keep talking and talking despite me just giving short simple answers and facing away from them. Especially down south. But if I tell someone I don’t want to talk to them, they will get offended. So if body language doesn’t cut it, then I’m forced to either be rude or grin and bear it.",
">\n\nHave you tried lying and saying you're in a hurry to get somewhere or late for something? Be like \n\"I'd love to stay and chat with you but I'm late for work\" and proceed to speed walk away from them lmfao",
">\n\nnormally i do but if i'm stuck in a line at a grocery store and simply just wanna vibe i can't lie, it sucks :(",
">\n\nI wouldn't mind this but sometimes I want to be left alone and sit quietly and think. This could be a thing as long as people didn't get angry or judgemental if someone declined to participate in socializing with them",
">\n\nTake my upvote, but leave me be.",
">\n\nI second this. 🙌",
">\n\nSit at the bar/counter.",
">\n\nYou know this is actually a nice idea.\nLike hear me out, if you have this in those types of settings, then that means that you'll eliminate the problem of having strangers come up to you and talk to you when you don't want it.\nIt's a win win.\nPeople who don't wanna talk get left alone and avoid being disturbed, and those that do can find someone who also wants to talk to them without having to annoy those that don't.",
">\n\nIf it's a designated space and people don't *have* to sit there it's okay. I'd like to left alone in these places.",
">\n\nThe bar",
">\n\nThe Blue Oyster?",
">\n\nYeah I dont want to talk you though. I hate small talk. Most conversations with strangers is small talk",
">\n\nGave you an upvote, but really you just need some courage to talk to people. Most the time people just put up a wall because they are scared of getting hurt.",
">\n\nI don't know if it's \"unpopular\" as far as opinions... but y'know what? I think it's an absolutely spectacular idea."
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It's not the place that is social , it's the people .
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[
"Definitely an unpopular opinion, take me upvote. I’m someone who doesn’t enjoy talking to strangers or being bothered in public spaces. If I’m somewhere alone, chances are I either want to be alone, or I’m doing something I need to do and am just trying to get it done and leave. We’re certainly not ALL perpetually lonely. Many people enjoy alone time, and you’ve listed several different places that are popular for people to go / do by themselves for that reason. \nThat being said, your idea of having a designated space for people who DO want to socialize is an interesting idea. Like-minded people could convene in that area with the expectation of socializing with strangers, and those who don’t want to could go about their time unbothered. A win-win situation, if you will.",
">\n\nLet me guess. You live in a city?",
">\n\nI do! Right in the middle of one lol.",
">\n\nYeah that's a very city mindset to not understand the friendliness of people going past saying hello. Smiling and nodding or starting a casual chat for 5 minutes then getting on with their day. \nIt's okay. Not saying it's right or wrong. .\nBut you've been heavily influenced by city life.",
">\n\nI live in the suburb and grew up in a somewhat rural town. And i don't want to talk to strangers. I think it's more of a personality thing than where one lives. Kinda like introvert vs extrovert.",
">\n\nWe need to bring back \"third places\"",
">\n\n100%\nThe US has a serious lack of quality third places that aren’t trying to take your money at the same time. (Starbucks sorta tries but they’re also kinda expensive, and a lot of them aren’t the same after Covid) \nI like public parks as a concept but when the weather is bad the only people at them are homeless with no where else to go. Sometimes I’ll start a conversation with the homeless person anyways cause some of them have interesting stories. And some of them have a brain completely rotted by meth & no understanding of what’s actually happening around them anymore. \nI think bars in the US are supposed to be 3rd places but this does leave young people (18-20) with a conundrum of where the fuck to go to be social if all socialization/ adult events are locked behind an ID that says 21+",
">\n\nHence why certain bars do long table and bench style seating. Its already a thing",
">\n\nDo you just sit down and other strangers join you? Or is it a table you reservs in advance with friends?",
">\n\nThink 3 rows of tables with maybe room for 20 people on each side of a table. Obviously people tend to stagger thier seating initially. As the night goes on, and seating options become limited, people end up filling up all of said seats. Alcohol+people=drunk conversations.",
">\n\nI probably wouldn't use such a table because I prefer to be left alone if I'm dining by myself.\nHowever, an evolution of your idea could be a switch or a toggle at each sitting area/table that changes between \"socialization welcome\" to \"privacy, please,\" and when the person sits down, they just change the toggle to the appropriate sign.",
">\n\nThat's actually a pretty cool idea! Leave most tables as is so people can do their own thing if they want to, but keep that designated space for talking. More people would probably do it if there were a designated space and they didn't feel like they were bothering people.",
">\n\nI second this. I’m confused why so many people are saying this is an insane idea? Nobody would be forcing you to sit in the designated social area. \nI think a coffee shop/restaurant would be an awesome place for this. Yes bars exist, but there’s so many people that would benefit from cafes having this spot (sober people, elderly, people who just don’t enjoy loud bars!). \nOP this is a brilliant idea, and I can say as someone who’s self-employed, and not in university, as well as wanting to make more friends who aren’t mostly just drinking buddies, I’d totally be willing to try this out!",
">\n\nMost people don't want to meet random people in a 1 on 1 situation. They want to meet new people when they are already in a comfortable environment. It used to be the community you lived in was that comfortable environment. Urban sprawl, particularly in the western US, made sure communities died. We drive to and from our destination with no opportunity to meet people along the way.",
">\n\nI really like this take.",
">\n\nNot everyone is perpetually lonely, but for those that are it's fine to try to strike up a conversation as long as you respect their space if they don't want to engage.",
">\n\nYou can be chatty with strangers just see how they respond and act accordingly.\nAlso, make sure it doesn’t seem like you are hitting on them. That will make many, women especially, not want to talk to you.",
">\n\nSome people do not take the hint though. You have no idea how many people I deal with who will keep talking and talking despite me just giving short simple answers and facing away from them. Especially down south. But if I tell someone I don’t want to talk to them, they will get offended. So if body language doesn’t cut it, then I’m forced to either be rude or grin and bear it.",
">\n\nHave you tried lying and saying you're in a hurry to get somewhere or late for something? Be like \n\"I'd love to stay and chat with you but I'm late for work\" and proceed to speed walk away from them lmfao",
">\n\nnormally i do but if i'm stuck in a line at a grocery store and simply just wanna vibe i can't lie, it sucks :(",
">\n\nI wouldn't mind this but sometimes I want to be left alone and sit quietly and think. This could be a thing as long as people didn't get angry or judgemental if someone declined to participate in socializing with them",
">\n\nTake my upvote, but leave me be.",
">\n\nI second this. 🙌",
">\n\nSit at the bar/counter.",
">\n\nYou know this is actually a nice idea.\nLike hear me out, if you have this in those types of settings, then that means that you'll eliminate the problem of having strangers come up to you and talk to you when you don't want it.\nIt's a win win.\nPeople who don't wanna talk get left alone and avoid being disturbed, and those that do can find someone who also wants to talk to them without having to annoy those that don't.",
">\n\nIf it's a designated space and people don't *have* to sit there it's okay. I'd like to left alone in these places.",
">\n\nThe bar",
">\n\nThe Blue Oyster?",
">\n\nYeah I dont want to talk you though. I hate small talk. Most conversations with strangers is small talk",
">\n\nGave you an upvote, but really you just need some courage to talk to people. Most the time people just put up a wall because they are scared of getting hurt.",
">\n\nI don't know if it's \"unpopular\" as far as opinions... but y'know what? I think it's an absolutely spectacular idea.",
">\n\nWhat bars and concerts are you going to that it’s not socially acceptable to talk to strangers?"
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Having a designated space to do this is a good idea, ppl will if they want and won’t if they don’t
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[
"Definitely an unpopular opinion, take me upvote. I’m someone who doesn’t enjoy talking to strangers or being bothered in public spaces. If I’m somewhere alone, chances are I either want to be alone, or I’m doing something I need to do and am just trying to get it done and leave. We’re certainly not ALL perpetually lonely. Many people enjoy alone time, and you’ve listed several different places that are popular for people to go / do by themselves for that reason. \nThat being said, your idea of having a designated space for people who DO want to socialize is an interesting idea. Like-minded people could convene in that area with the expectation of socializing with strangers, and those who don’t want to could go about their time unbothered. A win-win situation, if you will.",
">\n\nLet me guess. You live in a city?",
">\n\nI do! Right in the middle of one lol.",
">\n\nYeah that's a very city mindset to not understand the friendliness of people going past saying hello. Smiling and nodding or starting a casual chat for 5 minutes then getting on with their day. \nIt's okay. Not saying it's right or wrong. .\nBut you've been heavily influenced by city life.",
">\n\nI live in the suburb and grew up in a somewhat rural town. And i don't want to talk to strangers. I think it's more of a personality thing than where one lives. Kinda like introvert vs extrovert.",
">\n\nWe need to bring back \"third places\"",
">\n\n100%\nThe US has a serious lack of quality third places that aren’t trying to take your money at the same time. (Starbucks sorta tries but they’re also kinda expensive, and a lot of them aren’t the same after Covid) \nI like public parks as a concept but when the weather is bad the only people at them are homeless with no where else to go. Sometimes I’ll start a conversation with the homeless person anyways cause some of them have interesting stories. And some of them have a brain completely rotted by meth & no understanding of what’s actually happening around them anymore. \nI think bars in the US are supposed to be 3rd places but this does leave young people (18-20) with a conundrum of where the fuck to go to be social if all socialization/ adult events are locked behind an ID that says 21+",
">\n\nHence why certain bars do long table and bench style seating. Its already a thing",
">\n\nDo you just sit down and other strangers join you? Or is it a table you reservs in advance with friends?",
">\n\nThink 3 rows of tables with maybe room for 20 people on each side of a table. Obviously people tend to stagger thier seating initially. As the night goes on, and seating options become limited, people end up filling up all of said seats. Alcohol+people=drunk conversations.",
">\n\nI probably wouldn't use such a table because I prefer to be left alone if I'm dining by myself.\nHowever, an evolution of your idea could be a switch or a toggle at each sitting area/table that changes between \"socialization welcome\" to \"privacy, please,\" and when the person sits down, they just change the toggle to the appropriate sign.",
">\n\nThat's actually a pretty cool idea! Leave most tables as is so people can do their own thing if they want to, but keep that designated space for talking. More people would probably do it if there were a designated space and they didn't feel like they were bothering people.",
">\n\nI second this. I’m confused why so many people are saying this is an insane idea? Nobody would be forcing you to sit in the designated social area. \nI think a coffee shop/restaurant would be an awesome place for this. Yes bars exist, but there’s so many people that would benefit from cafes having this spot (sober people, elderly, people who just don’t enjoy loud bars!). \nOP this is a brilliant idea, and I can say as someone who’s self-employed, and not in university, as well as wanting to make more friends who aren’t mostly just drinking buddies, I’d totally be willing to try this out!",
">\n\nMost people don't want to meet random people in a 1 on 1 situation. They want to meet new people when they are already in a comfortable environment. It used to be the community you lived in was that comfortable environment. Urban sprawl, particularly in the western US, made sure communities died. We drive to and from our destination with no opportunity to meet people along the way.",
">\n\nI really like this take.",
">\n\nNot everyone is perpetually lonely, but for those that are it's fine to try to strike up a conversation as long as you respect their space if they don't want to engage.",
">\n\nYou can be chatty with strangers just see how they respond and act accordingly.\nAlso, make sure it doesn’t seem like you are hitting on them. That will make many, women especially, not want to talk to you.",
">\n\nSome people do not take the hint though. You have no idea how many people I deal with who will keep talking and talking despite me just giving short simple answers and facing away from them. Especially down south. But if I tell someone I don’t want to talk to them, they will get offended. So if body language doesn’t cut it, then I’m forced to either be rude or grin and bear it.",
">\n\nHave you tried lying and saying you're in a hurry to get somewhere or late for something? Be like \n\"I'd love to stay and chat with you but I'm late for work\" and proceed to speed walk away from them lmfao",
">\n\nnormally i do but if i'm stuck in a line at a grocery store and simply just wanna vibe i can't lie, it sucks :(",
">\n\nI wouldn't mind this but sometimes I want to be left alone and sit quietly and think. This could be a thing as long as people didn't get angry or judgemental if someone declined to participate in socializing with them",
">\n\nTake my upvote, but leave me be.",
">\n\nI second this. 🙌",
">\n\nSit at the bar/counter.",
">\n\nYou know this is actually a nice idea.\nLike hear me out, if you have this in those types of settings, then that means that you'll eliminate the problem of having strangers come up to you and talk to you when you don't want it.\nIt's a win win.\nPeople who don't wanna talk get left alone and avoid being disturbed, and those that do can find someone who also wants to talk to them without having to annoy those that don't.",
">\n\nIf it's a designated space and people don't *have* to sit there it's okay. I'd like to left alone in these places.",
">\n\nThe bar",
">\n\nThe Blue Oyster?",
">\n\nYeah I dont want to talk you though. I hate small talk. Most conversations with strangers is small talk",
">\n\nGave you an upvote, but really you just need some courage to talk to people. Most the time people just put up a wall because they are scared of getting hurt.",
">\n\nI don't know if it's \"unpopular\" as far as opinions... but y'know what? I think it's an absolutely spectacular idea.",
">\n\nWhat bars and concerts are you going to that it’s not socially acceptable to talk to strangers?",
">\n\nIt's not the place that is social , it's the people ."
] |
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Mostly when strangers talk to me it’s unwanted and they’re men old enough to be my parents sometimes they can act friendly but it becomes clear pretty quick they’re weird and want more than just a friendly chat. I’m always cold/ignore to strangers because of this. I find strangers talking to me inappropriate been followed home multiple times, people on trains have acted inappropriately on three occasions all old enough to be my parents. It can be ok in environments like students chatting to other students even then it shouldn’t be one to one. If it’s someone my age I can brush it off if they leave me alone when they get the idea but funnily enough older people don’t. If your old enough to be my parents unless we are at work please please do not strike up a conversation trying to be friends/more!!!
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[
"Definitely an unpopular opinion, take me upvote. I’m someone who doesn’t enjoy talking to strangers or being bothered in public spaces. If I’m somewhere alone, chances are I either want to be alone, or I’m doing something I need to do and am just trying to get it done and leave. We’re certainly not ALL perpetually lonely. Many people enjoy alone time, and you’ve listed several different places that are popular for people to go / do by themselves for that reason. \nThat being said, your idea of having a designated space for people who DO want to socialize is an interesting idea. Like-minded people could convene in that area with the expectation of socializing with strangers, and those who don’t want to could go about their time unbothered. A win-win situation, if you will.",
">\n\nLet me guess. You live in a city?",
">\n\nI do! Right in the middle of one lol.",
">\n\nYeah that's a very city mindset to not understand the friendliness of people going past saying hello. Smiling and nodding or starting a casual chat for 5 minutes then getting on with their day. \nIt's okay. Not saying it's right or wrong. .\nBut you've been heavily influenced by city life.",
">\n\nI live in the suburb and grew up in a somewhat rural town. And i don't want to talk to strangers. I think it's more of a personality thing than where one lives. Kinda like introvert vs extrovert.",
">\n\nWe need to bring back \"third places\"",
">\n\n100%\nThe US has a serious lack of quality third places that aren’t trying to take your money at the same time. (Starbucks sorta tries but they’re also kinda expensive, and a lot of them aren’t the same after Covid) \nI like public parks as a concept but when the weather is bad the only people at them are homeless with no where else to go. Sometimes I’ll start a conversation with the homeless person anyways cause some of them have interesting stories. And some of them have a brain completely rotted by meth & no understanding of what’s actually happening around them anymore. \nI think bars in the US are supposed to be 3rd places but this does leave young people (18-20) with a conundrum of where the fuck to go to be social if all socialization/ adult events are locked behind an ID that says 21+",
">\n\nHence why certain bars do long table and bench style seating. Its already a thing",
">\n\nDo you just sit down and other strangers join you? Or is it a table you reservs in advance with friends?",
">\n\nThink 3 rows of tables with maybe room for 20 people on each side of a table. Obviously people tend to stagger thier seating initially. As the night goes on, and seating options become limited, people end up filling up all of said seats. Alcohol+people=drunk conversations.",
">\n\nI probably wouldn't use such a table because I prefer to be left alone if I'm dining by myself.\nHowever, an evolution of your idea could be a switch or a toggle at each sitting area/table that changes between \"socialization welcome\" to \"privacy, please,\" and when the person sits down, they just change the toggle to the appropriate sign.",
">\n\nThat's actually a pretty cool idea! Leave most tables as is so people can do their own thing if they want to, but keep that designated space for talking. More people would probably do it if there were a designated space and they didn't feel like they were bothering people.",
">\n\nI second this. I’m confused why so many people are saying this is an insane idea? Nobody would be forcing you to sit in the designated social area. \nI think a coffee shop/restaurant would be an awesome place for this. Yes bars exist, but there’s so many people that would benefit from cafes having this spot (sober people, elderly, people who just don’t enjoy loud bars!). \nOP this is a brilliant idea, and I can say as someone who’s self-employed, and not in university, as well as wanting to make more friends who aren’t mostly just drinking buddies, I’d totally be willing to try this out!",
">\n\nMost people don't want to meet random people in a 1 on 1 situation. They want to meet new people when they are already in a comfortable environment. It used to be the community you lived in was that comfortable environment. Urban sprawl, particularly in the western US, made sure communities died. We drive to and from our destination with no opportunity to meet people along the way.",
">\n\nI really like this take.",
">\n\nNot everyone is perpetually lonely, but for those that are it's fine to try to strike up a conversation as long as you respect their space if they don't want to engage.",
">\n\nYou can be chatty with strangers just see how they respond and act accordingly.\nAlso, make sure it doesn’t seem like you are hitting on them. That will make many, women especially, not want to talk to you.",
">\n\nSome people do not take the hint though. You have no idea how many people I deal with who will keep talking and talking despite me just giving short simple answers and facing away from them. Especially down south. But if I tell someone I don’t want to talk to them, they will get offended. So if body language doesn’t cut it, then I’m forced to either be rude or grin and bear it.",
">\n\nHave you tried lying and saying you're in a hurry to get somewhere or late for something? Be like \n\"I'd love to stay and chat with you but I'm late for work\" and proceed to speed walk away from them lmfao",
">\n\nnormally i do but if i'm stuck in a line at a grocery store and simply just wanna vibe i can't lie, it sucks :(",
">\n\nI wouldn't mind this but sometimes I want to be left alone and sit quietly and think. This could be a thing as long as people didn't get angry or judgemental if someone declined to participate in socializing with them",
">\n\nTake my upvote, but leave me be.",
">\n\nI second this. 🙌",
">\n\nSit at the bar/counter.",
">\n\nYou know this is actually a nice idea.\nLike hear me out, if you have this in those types of settings, then that means that you'll eliminate the problem of having strangers come up to you and talk to you when you don't want it.\nIt's a win win.\nPeople who don't wanna talk get left alone and avoid being disturbed, and those that do can find someone who also wants to talk to them without having to annoy those that don't.",
">\n\nIf it's a designated space and people don't *have* to sit there it's okay. I'd like to left alone in these places.",
">\n\nThe bar",
">\n\nThe Blue Oyster?",
">\n\nYeah I dont want to talk you though. I hate small talk. Most conversations with strangers is small talk",
">\n\nGave you an upvote, but really you just need some courage to talk to people. Most the time people just put up a wall because they are scared of getting hurt.",
">\n\nI don't know if it's \"unpopular\" as far as opinions... but y'know what? I think it's an absolutely spectacular idea.",
">\n\nWhat bars and concerts are you going to that it’s not socially acceptable to talk to strangers?",
">\n\nIt's not the place that is social , it's the people .",
">\n\nHaving a designated space to do this is a good idea, ppl will if they want and won’t if they don’t"
] |
>
Practice the phrase “no hablo ingles” to make your pronunciation believable.
Could potentially backfire if you meet someone fluent in Spanish but if they keep going from there you got the right to be rude. Sometimes you gotta tell people to fuck off cause they just don’t (or don’t want to) get it
|
[
"Definitely an unpopular opinion, take me upvote. I’m someone who doesn’t enjoy talking to strangers or being bothered in public spaces. If I’m somewhere alone, chances are I either want to be alone, or I’m doing something I need to do and am just trying to get it done and leave. We’re certainly not ALL perpetually lonely. Many people enjoy alone time, and you’ve listed several different places that are popular for people to go / do by themselves for that reason. \nThat being said, your idea of having a designated space for people who DO want to socialize is an interesting idea. Like-minded people could convene in that area with the expectation of socializing with strangers, and those who don’t want to could go about their time unbothered. A win-win situation, if you will.",
">\n\nLet me guess. You live in a city?",
">\n\nI do! Right in the middle of one lol.",
">\n\nYeah that's a very city mindset to not understand the friendliness of people going past saying hello. Smiling and nodding or starting a casual chat for 5 minutes then getting on with their day. \nIt's okay. Not saying it's right or wrong. .\nBut you've been heavily influenced by city life.",
">\n\nI live in the suburb and grew up in a somewhat rural town. And i don't want to talk to strangers. I think it's more of a personality thing than where one lives. Kinda like introvert vs extrovert.",
">\n\nWe need to bring back \"third places\"",
">\n\n100%\nThe US has a serious lack of quality third places that aren’t trying to take your money at the same time. (Starbucks sorta tries but they’re also kinda expensive, and a lot of them aren’t the same after Covid) \nI like public parks as a concept but when the weather is bad the only people at them are homeless with no where else to go. Sometimes I’ll start a conversation with the homeless person anyways cause some of them have interesting stories. And some of them have a brain completely rotted by meth & no understanding of what’s actually happening around them anymore. \nI think bars in the US are supposed to be 3rd places but this does leave young people (18-20) with a conundrum of where the fuck to go to be social if all socialization/ adult events are locked behind an ID that says 21+",
">\n\nHence why certain bars do long table and bench style seating. Its already a thing",
">\n\nDo you just sit down and other strangers join you? Or is it a table you reservs in advance with friends?",
">\n\nThink 3 rows of tables with maybe room for 20 people on each side of a table. Obviously people tend to stagger thier seating initially. As the night goes on, and seating options become limited, people end up filling up all of said seats. Alcohol+people=drunk conversations.",
">\n\nI probably wouldn't use such a table because I prefer to be left alone if I'm dining by myself.\nHowever, an evolution of your idea could be a switch or a toggle at each sitting area/table that changes between \"socialization welcome\" to \"privacy, please,\" and when the person sits down, they just change the toggle to the appropriate sign.",
">\n\nThat's actually a pretty cool idea! Leave most tables as is so people can do their own thing if they want to, but keep that designated space for talking. More people would probably do it if there were a designated space and they didn't feel like they were bothering people.",
">\n\nI second this. I’m confused why so many people are saying this is an insane idea? Nobody would be forcing you to sit in the designated social area. \nI think a coffee shop/restaurant would be an awesome place for this. Yes bars exist, but there’s so many people that would benefit from cafes having this spot (sober people, elderly, people who just don’t enjoy loud bars!). \nOP this is a brilliant idea, and I can say as someone who’s self-employed, and not in university, as well as wanting to make more friends who aren’t mostly just drinking buddies, I’d totally be willing to try this out!",
">\n\nMost people don't want to meet random people in a 1 on 1 situation. They want to meet new people when they are already in a comfortable environment. It used to be the community you lived in was that comfortable environment. Urban sprawl, particularly in the western US, made sure communities died. We drive to and from our destination with no opportunity to meet people along the way.",
">\n\nI really like this take.",
">\n\nNot everyone is perpetually lonely, but for those that are it's fine to try to strike up a conversation as long as you respect their space if they don't want to engage.",
">\n\nYou can be chatty with strangers just see how they respond and act accordingly.\nAlso, make sure it doesn’t seem like you are hitting on them. That will make many, women especially, not want to talk to you.",
">\n\nSome people do not take the hint though. You have no idea how many people I deal with who will keep talking and talking despite me just giving short simple answers and facing away from them. Especially down south. But if I tell someone I don’t want to talk to them, they will get offended. So if body language doesn’t cut it, then I’m forced to either be rude or grin and bear it.",
">\n\nHave you tried lying and saying you're in a hurry to get somewhere or late for something? Be like \n\"I'd love to stay and chat with you but I'm late for work\" and proceed to speed walk away from them lmfao",
">\n\nnormally i do but if i'm stuck in a line at a grocery store and simply just wanna vibe i can't lie, it sucks :(",
">\n\nI wouldn't mind this but sometimes I want to be left alone and sit quietly and think. This could be a thing as long as people didn't get angry or judgemental if someone declined to participate in socializing with them",
">\n\nTake my upvote, but leave me be.",
">\n\nI second this. 🙌",
">\n\nSit at the bar/counter.",
">\n\nYou know this is actually a nice idea.\nLike hear me out, if you have this in those types of settings, then that means that you'll eliminate the problem of having strangers come up to you and talk to you when you don't want it.\nIt's a win win.\nPeople who don't wanna talk get left alone and avoid being disturbed, and those that do can find someone who also wants to talk to them without having to annoy those that don't.",
">\n\nIf it's a designated space and people don't *have* to sit there it's okay. I'd like to left alone in these places.",
">\n\nThe bar",
">\n\nThe Blue Oyster?",
">\n\nYeah I dont want to talk you though. I hate small talk. Most conversations with strangers is small talk",
">\n\nGave you an upvote, but really you just need some courage to talk to people. Most the time people just put up a wall because they are scared of getting hurt.",
">\n\nI don't know if it's \"unpopular\" as far as opinions... but y'know what? I think it's an absolutely spectacular idea.",
">\n\nWhat bars and concerts are you going to that it’s not socially acceptable to talk to strangers?",
">\n\nIt's not the place that is social , it's the people .",
">\n\nHaving a designated space to do this is a good idea, ppl will if they want and won’t if they don’t",
">\n\nMostly when strangers talk to me it’s unwanted and they’re men old enough to be my parents sometimes they can act friendly but it becomes clear pretty quick they’re weird and want more than just a friendly chat. I’m always cold/ignore to strangers because of this. I find strangers talking to me inappropriate been followed home multiple times, people on trains have acted inappropriately on three occasions all old enough to be my parents. It can be ok in environments like students chatting to other students even then it shouldn’t be one to one. If it’s someone my age I can brush it off if they leave me alone when they get the idea but funnily enough older people don’t. If your old enough to be my parents unless we are at work please please do not strike up a conversation trying to be friends/more!!!"
] |
>
I can't imagine this catching on everywhere but maybe for a few specific areas, perhaps the patron could be given a sheet pertaining to a subject they want to talk about?
|
[
"Definitely an unpopular opinion, take me upvote. I’m someone who doesn’t enjoy talking to strangers or being bothered in public spaces. If I’m somewhere alone, chances are I either want to be alone, or I’m doing something I need to do and am just trying to get it done and leave. We’re certainly not ALL perpetually lonely. Many people enjoy alone time, and you’ve listed several different places that are popular for people to go / do by themselves for that reason. \nThat being said, your idea of having a designated space for people who DO want to socialize is an interesting idea. Like-minded people could convene in that area with the expectation of socializing with strangers, and those who don’t want to could go about their time unbothered. A win-win situation, if you will.",
">\n\nLet me guess. You live in a city?",
">\n\nI do! Right in the middle of one lol.",
">\n\nYeah that's a very city mindset to not understand the friendliness of people going past saying hello. Smiling and nodding or starting a casual chat for 5 minutes then getting on with their day. \nIt's okay. Not saying it's right or wrong. .\nBut you've been heavily influenced by city life.",
">\n\nI live in the suburb and grew up in a somewhat rural town. And i don't want to talk to strangers. I think it's more of a personality thing than where one lives. Kinda like introvert vs extrovert.",
">\n\nWe need to bring back \"third places\"",
">\n\n100%\nThe US has a serious lack of quality third places that aren’t trying to take your money at the same time. (Starbucks sorta tries but they’re also kinda expensive, and a lot of them aren’t the same after Covid) \nI like public parks as a concept but when the weather is bad the only people at them are homeless with no where else to go. Sometimes I’ll start a conversation with the homeless person anyways cause some of them have interesting stories. And some of them have a brain completely rotted by meth & no understanding of what’s actually happening around them anymore. \nI think bars in the US are supposed to be 3rd places but this does leave young people (18-20) with a conundrum of where the fuck to go to be social if all socialization/ adult events are locked behind an ID that says 21+",
">\n\nHence why certain bars do long table and bench style seating. Its already a thing",
">\n\nDo you just sit down and other strangers join you? Or is it a table you reservs in advance with friends?",
">\n\nThink 3 rows of tables with maybe room for 20 people on each side of a table. Obviously people tend to stagger thier seating initially. As the night goes on, and seating options become limited, people end up filling up all of said seats. Alcohol+people=drunk conversations.",
">\n\nI probably wouldn't use such a table because I prefer to be left alone if I'm dining by myself.\nHowever, an evolution of your idea could be a switch or a toggle at each sitting area/table that changes between \"socialization welcome\" to \"privacy, please,\" and when the person sits down, they just change the toggle to the appropriate sign.",
">\n\nThat's actually a pretty cool idea! Leave most tables as is so people can do their own thing if they want to, but keep that designated space for talking. More people would probably do it if there were a designated space and they didn't feel like they were bothering people.",
">\n\nI second this. I’m confused why so many people are saying this is an insane idea? Nobody would be forcing you to sit in the designated social area. \nI think a coffee shop/restaurant would be an awesome place for this. Yes bars exist, but there’s so many people that would benefit from cafes having this spot (sober people, elderly, people who just don’t enjoy loud bars!). \nOP this is a brilliant idea, and I can say as someone who’s self-employed, and not in university, as well as wanting to make more friends who aren’t mostly just drinking buddies, I’d totally be willing to try this out!",
">\n\nMost people don't want to meet random people in a 1 on 1 situation. They want to meet new people when they are already in a comfortable environment. It used to be the community you lived in was that comfortable environment. Urban sprawl, particularly in the western US, made sure communities died. We drive to and from our destination with no opportunity to meet people along the way.",
">\n\nI really like this take.",
">\n\nNot everyone is perpetually lonely, but for those that are it's fine to try to strike up a conversation as long as you respect their space if they don't want to engage.",
">\n\nYou can be chatty with strangers just see how they respond and act accordingly.\nAlso, make sure it doesn’t seem like you are hitting on them. That will make many, women especially, not want to talk to you.",
">\n\nSome people do not take the hint though. You have no idea how many people I deal with who will keep talking and talking despite me just giving short simple answers and facing away from them. Especially down south. But if I tell someone I don’t want to talk to them, they will get offended. So if body language doesn’t cut it, then I’m forced to either be rude or grin and bear it.",
">\n\nHave you tried lying and saying you're in a hurry to get somewhere or late for something? Be like \n\"I'd love to stay and chat with you but I'm late for work\" and proceed to speed walk away from them lmfao",
">\n\nnormally i do but if i'm stuck in a line at a grocery store and simply just wanna vibe i can't lie, it sucks :(",
">\n\nI wouldn't mind this but sometimes I want to be left alone and sit quietly and think. This could be a thing as long as people didn't get angry or judgemental if someone declined to participate in socializing with them",
">\n\nTake my upvote, but leave me be.",
">\n\nI second this. 🙌",
">\n\nSit at the bar/counter.",
">\n\nYou know this is actually a nice idea.\nLike hear me out, if you have this in those types of settings, then that means that you'll eliminate the problem of having strangers come up to you and talk to you when you don't want it.\nIt's a win win.\nPeople who don't wanna talk get left alone and avoid being disturbed, and those that do can find someone who also wants to talk to them without having to annoy those that don't.",
">\n\nIf it's a designated space and people don't *have* to sit there it's okay. I'd like to left alone in these places.",
">\n\nThe bar",
">\n\nThe Blue Oyster?",
">\n\nYeah I dont want to talk you though. I hate small talk. Most conversations with strangers is small talk",
">\n\nGave you an upvote, but really you just need some courage to talk to people. Most the time people just put up a wall because they are scared of getting hurt.",
">\n\nI don't know if it's \"unpopular\" as far as opinions... but y'know what? I think it's an absolutely spectacular idea.",
">\n\nWhat bars and concerts are you going to that it’s not socially acceptable to talk to strangers?",
">\n\nIt's not the place that is social , it's the people .",
">\n\nHaving a designated space to do this is a good idea, ppl will if they want and won’t if they don’t",
">\n\nMostly when strangers talk to me it’s unwanted and they’re men old enough to be my parents sometimes they can act friendly but it becomes clear pretty quick they’re weird and want more than just a friendly chat. I’m always cold/ignore to strangers because of this. I find strangers talking to me inappropriate been followed home multiple times, people on trains have acted inappropriately on three occasions all old enough to be my parents. It can be ok in environments like students chatting to other students even then it shouldn’t be one to one. If it’s someone my age I can brush it off if they leave me alone when they get the idea but funnily enough older people don’t. If your old enough to be my parents unless we are at work please please do not strike up a conversation trying to be friends/more!!!",
">\n\nPractice the phrase “no hablo ingles” to make your pronunciation believable. \nCould potentially backfire if you meet someone fluent in Spanish but if they keep going from there you got the right to be rude. Sometimes you gotta tell people to fuck off cause they just don’t (or don’t want to) get it"
] |
>
I actually like that idea! Socratic method in real life
|
[
"Definitely an unpopular opinion, take me upvote. I’m someone who doesn’t enjoy talking to strangers or being bothered in public spaces. If I’m somewhere alone, chances are I either want to be alone, or I’m doing something I need to do and am just trying to get it done and leave. We’re certainly not ALL perpetually lonely. Many people enjoy alone time, and you’ve listed several different places that are popular for people to go / do by themselves for that reason. \nThat being said, your idea of having a designated space for people who DO want to socialize is an interesting idea. Like-minded people could convene in that area with the expectation of socializing with strangers, and those who don’t want to could go about their time unbothered. A win-win situation, if you will.",
">\n\nLet me guess. You live in a city?",
">\n\nI do! Right in the middle of one lol.",
">\n\nYeah that's a very city mindset to not understand the friendliness of people going past saying hello. Smiling and nodding or starting a casual chat for 5 minutes then getting on with their day. \nIt's okay. Not saying it's right or wrong. .\nBut you've been heavily influenced by city life.",
">\n\nI live in the suburb and grew up in a somewhat rural town. And i don't want to talk to strangers. I think it's more of a personality thing than where one lives. Kinda like introvert vs extrovert.",
">\n\nWe need to bring back \"third places\"",
">\n\n100%\nThe US has a serious lack of quality third places that aren’t trying to take your money at the same time. (Starbucks sorta tries but they’re also kinda expensive, and a lot of them aren’t the same after Covid) \nI like public parks as a concept but when the weather is bad the only people at them are homeless with no where else to go. Sometimes I’ll start a conversation with the homeless person anyways cause some of them have interesting stories. And some of them have a brain completely rotted by meth & no understanding of what’s actually happening around them anymore. \nI think bars in the US are supposed to be 3rd places but this does leave young people (18-20) with a conundrum of where the fuck to go to be social if all socialization/ adult events are locked behind an ID that says 21+",
">\n\nHence why certain bars do long table and bench style seating. Its already a thing",
">\n\nDo you just sit down and other strangers join you? Or is it a table you reservs in advance with friends?",
">\n\nThink 3 rows of tables with maybe room for 20 people on each side of a table. Obviously people tend to stagger thier seating initially. As the night goes on, and seating options become limited, people end up filling up all of said seats. Alcohol+people=drunk conversations.",
">\n\nI probably wouldn't use such a table because I prefer to be left alone if I'm dining by myself.\nHowever, an evolution of your idea could be a switch or a toggle at each sitting area/table that changes between \"socialization welcome\" to \"privacy, please,\" and when the person sits down, they just change the toggle to the appropriate sign.",
">\n\nThat's actually a pretty cool idea! Leave most tables as is so people can do their own thing if they want to, but keep that designated space for talking. More people would probably do it if there were a designated space and they didn't feel like they were bothering people.",
">\n\nI second this. I’m confused why so many people are saying this is an insane idea? Nobody would be forcing you to sit in the designated social area. \nI think a coffee shop/restaurant would be an awesome place for this. Yes bars exist, but there’s so many people that would benefit from cafes having this spot (sober people, elderly, people who just don’t enjoy loud bars!). \nOP this is a brilliant idea, and I can say as someone who’s self-employed, and not in university, as well as wanting to make more friends who aren’t mostly just drinking buddies, I’d totally be willing to try this out!",
">\n\nMost people don't want to meet random people in a 1 on 1 situation. They want to meet new people when they are already in a comfortable environment. It used to be the community you lived in was that comfortable environment. Urban sprawl, particularly in the western US, made sure communities died. We drive to and from our destination with no opportunity to meet people along the way.",
">\n\nI really like this take.",
">\n\nNot everyone is perpetually lonely, but for those that are it's fine to try to strike up a conversation as long as you respect their space if they don't want to engage.",
">\n\nYou can be chatty with strangers just see how they respond and act accordingly.\nAlso, make sure it doesn’t seem like you are hitting on them. That will make many, women especially, not want to talk to you.",
">\n\nSome people do not take the hint though. You have no idea how many people I deal with who will keep talking and talking despite me just giving short simple answers and facing away from them. Especially down south. But if I tell someone I don’t want to talk to them, they will get offended. So if body language doesn’t cut it, then I’m forced to either be rude or grin and bear it.",
">\n\nHave you tried lying and saying you're in a hurry to get somewhere or late for something? Be like \n\"I'd love to stay and chat with you but I'm late for work\" and proceed to speed walk away from them lmfao",
">\n\nnormally i do but if i'm stuck in a line at a grocery store and simply just wanna vibe i can't lie, it sucks :(",
">\n\nI wouldn't mind this but sometimes I want to be left alone and sit quietly and think. This could be a thing as long as people didn't get angry or judgemental if someone declined to participate in socializing with them",
">\n\nTake my upvote, but leave me be.",
">\n\nI second this. 🙌",
">\n\nSit at the bar/counter.",
">\n\nYou know this is actually a nice idea.\nLike hear me out, if you have this in those types of settings, then that means that you'll eliminate the problem of having strangers come up to you and talk to you when you don't want it.\nIt's a win win.\nPeople who don't wanna talk get left alone and avoid being disturbed, and those that do can find someone who also wants to talk to them without having to annoy those that don't.",
">\n\nIf it's a designated space and people don't *have* to sit there it's okay. I'd like to left alone in these places.",
">\n\nThe bar",
">\n\nThe Blue Oyster?",
">\n\nYeah I dont want to talk you though. I hate small talk. Most conversations with strangers is small talk",
">\n\nGave you an upvote, but really you just need some courage to talk to people. Most the time people just put up a wall because they are scared of getting hurt.",
">\n\nI don't know if it's \"unpopular\" as far as opinions... but y'know what? I think it's an absolutely spectacular idea.",
">\n\nWhat bars and concerts are you going to that it’s not socially acceptable to talk to strangers?",
">\n\nIt's not the place that is social , it's the people .",
">\n\nHaving a designated space to do this is a good idea, ppl will if they want and won’t if they don’t",
">\n\nMostly when strangers talk to me it’s unwanted and they’re men old enough to be my parents sometimes they can act friendly but it becomes clear pretty quick they’re weird and want more than just a friendly chat. I’m always cold/ignore to strangers because of this. I find strangers talking to me inappropriate been followed home multiple times, people on trains have acted inappropriately on three occasions all old enough to be my parents. It can be ok in environments like students chatting to other students even then it shouldn’t be one to one. If it’s someone my age I can brush it off if they leave me alone when they get the idea but funnily enough older people don’t. If your old enough to be my parents unless we are at work please please do not strike up a conversation trying to be friends/more!!!",
">\n\nPractice the phrase “no hablo ingles” to make your pronunciation believable. \nCould potentially backfire if you meet someone fluent in Spanish but if they keep going from there you got the right to be rude. Sometimes you gotta tell people to fuck off cause they just don’t (or don’t want to) get it",
">\n\nI can't imagine this catching on everywhere but maybe for a few specific areas, perhaps the patron could be given a sheet pertaining to a subject they want to talk about?"
] |
>
I had an idea of a restaurant where parties are expected to share tables with other parties. Always feel weird taking up a 4 or 6 person table with just me and my wife. Would be interesting to fill those tables a bit more by putting groups together.
|
[
"Definitely an unpopular opinion, take me upvote. I’m someone who doesn’t enjoy talking to strangers or being bothered in public spaces. If I’m somewhere alone, chances are I either want to be alone, or I’m doing something I need to do and am just trying to get it done and leave. We’re certainly not ALL perpetually lonely. Many people enjoy alone time, and you’ve listed several different places that are popular for people to go / do by themselves for that reason. \nThat being said, your idea of having a designated space for people who DO want to socialize is an interesting idea. Like-minded people could convene in that area with the expectation of socializing with strangers, and those who don’t want to could go about their time unbothered. A win-win situation, if you will.",
">\n\nLet me guess. You live in a city?",
">\n\nI do! Right in the middle of one lol.",
">\n\nYeah that's a very city mindset to not understand the friendliness of people going past saying hello. Smiling and nodding or starting a casual chat for 5 minutes then getting on with their day. \nIt's okay. Not saying it's right or wrong. .\nBut you've been heavily influenced by city life.",
">\n\nI live in the suburb and grew up in a somewhat rural town. And i don't want to talk to strangers. I think it's more of a personality thing than where one lives. Kinda like introvert vs extrovert.",
">\n\nWe need to bring back \"third places\"",
">\n\n100%\nThe US has a serious lack of quality third places that aren’t trying to take your money at the same time. (Starbucks sorta tries but they’re also kinda expensive, and a lot of them aren’t the same after Covid) \nI like public parks as a concept but when the weather is bad the only people at them are homeless with no where else to go. Sometimes I’ll start a conversation with the homeless person anyways cause some of them have interesting stories. And some of them have a brain completely rotted by meth & no understanding of what’s actually happening around them anymore. \nI think bars in the US are supposed to be 3rd places but this does leave young people (18-20) with a conundrum of where the fuck to go to be social if all socialization/ adult events are locked behind an ID that says 21+",
">\n\nHence why certain bars do long table and bench style seating. Its already a thing",
">\n\nDo you just sit down and other strangers join you? Or is it a table you reservs in advance with friends?",
">\n\nThink 3 rows of tables with maybe room for 20 people on each side of a table. Obviously people tend to stagger thier seating initially. As the night goes on, and seating options become limited, people end up filling up all of said seats. Alcohol+people=drunk conversations.",
">\n\nI probably wouldn't use such a table because I prefer to be left alone if I'm dining by myself.\nHowever, an evolution of your idea could be a switch or a toggle at each sitting area/table that changes between \"socialization welcome\" to \"privacy, please,\" and when the person sits down, they just change the toggle to the appropriate sign.",
">\n\nThat's actually a pretty cool idea! Leave most tables as is so people can do their own thing if they want to, but keep that designated space for talking. More people would probably do it if there were a designated space and they didn't feel like they were bothering people.",
">\n\nI second this. I’m confused why so many people are saying this is an insane idea? Nobody would be forcing you to sit in the designated social area. \nI think a coffee shop/restaurant would be an awesome place for this. Yes bars exist, but there’s so many people that would benefit from cafes having this spot (sober people, elderly, people who just don’t enjoy loud bars!). \nOP this is a brilliant idea, and I can say as someone who’s self-employed, and not in university, as well as wanting to make more friends who aren’t mostly just drinking buddies, I’d totally be willing to try this out!",
">\n\nMost people don't want to meet random people in a 1 on 1 situation. They want to meet new people when they are already in a comfortable environment. It used to be the community you lived in was that comfortable environment. Urban sprawl, particularly in the western US, made sure communities died. We drive to and from our destination with no opportunity to meet people along the way.",
">\n\nI really like this take.",
">\n\nNot everyone is perpetually lonely, but for those that are it's fine to try to strike up a conversation as long as you respect their space if they don't want to engage.",
">\n\nYou can be chatty with strangers just see how they respond and act accordingly.\nAlso, make sure it doesn’t seem like you are hitting on them. That will make many, women especially, not want to talk to you.",
">\n\nSome people do not take the hint though. You have no idea how many people I deal with who will keep talking and talking despite me just giving short simple answers and facing away from them. Especially down south. But if I tell someone I don’t want to talk to them, they will get offended. So if body language doesn’t cut it, then I’m forced to either be rude or grin and bear it.",
">\n\nHave you tried lying and saying you're in a hurry to get somewhere or late for something? Be like \n\"I'd love to stay and chat with you but I'm late for work\" and proceed to speed walk away from them lmfao",
">\n\nnormally i do but if i'm stuck in a line at a grocery store and simply just wanna vibe i can't lie, it sucks :(",
">\n\nI wouldn't mind this but sometimes I want to be left alone and sit quietly and think. This could be a thing as long as people didn't get angry or judgemental if someone declined to participate in socializing with them",
">\n\nTake my upvote, but leave me be.",
">\n\nI second this. 🙌",
">\n\nSit at the bar/counter.",
">\n\nYou know this is actually a nice idea.\nLike hear me out, if you have this in those types of settings, then that means that you'll eliminate the problem of having strangers come up to you and talk to you when you don't want it.\nIt's a win win.\nPeople who don't wanna talk get left alone and avoid being disturbed, and those that do can find someone who also wants to talk to them without having to annoy those that don't.",
">\n\nIf it's a designated space and people don't *have* to sit there it's okay. I'd like to left alone in these places.",
">\n\nThe bar",
">\n\nThe Blue Oyster?",
">\n\nYeah I dont want to talk you though. I hate small talk. Most conversations with strangers is small talk",
">\n\nGave you an upvote, but really you just need some courage to talk to people. Most the time people just put up a wall because they are scared of getting hurt.",
">\n\nI don't know if it's \"unpopular\" as far as opinions... but y'know what? I think it's an absolutely spectacular idea.",
">\n\nWhat bars and concerts are you going to that it’s not socially acceptable to talk to strangers?",
">\n\nIt's not the place that is social , it's the people .",
">\n\nHaving a designated space to do this is a good idea, ppl will if they want and won’t if they don’t",
">\n\nMostly when strangers talk to me it’s unwanted and they’re men old enough to be my parents sometimes they can act friendly but it becomes clear pretty quick they’re weird and want more than just a friendly chat. I’m always cold/ignore to strangers because of this. I find strangers talking to me inappropriate been followed home multiple times, people on trains have acted inappropriately on three occasions all old enough to be my parents. It can be ok in environments like students chatting to other students even then it shouldn’t be one to one. If it’s someone my age I can brush it off if they leave me alone when they get the idea but funnily enough older people don’t. If your old enough to be my parents unless we are at work please please do not strike up a conversation trying to be friends/more!!!",
">\n\nPractice the phrase “no hablo ingles” to make your pronunciation believable. \nCould potentially backfire if you meet someone fluent in Spanish but if they keep going from there you got the right to be rude. Sometimes you gotta tell people to fuck off cause they just don’t (or don’t want to) get it",
">\n\nI can't imagine this catching on everywhere but maybe for a few specific areas, perhaps the patron could be given a sheet pertaining to a subject they want to talk about?",
">\n\nI actually like that idea! Socratic method in real life"
] |
>
I had to sit at a table with people I didn't know on an Amtrak train. It sucks.
|
[
"Definitely an unpopular opinion, take me upvote. I’m someone who doesn’t enjoy talking to strangers or being bothered in public spaces. If I’m somewhere alone, chances are I either want to be alone, or I’m doing something I need to do and am just trying to get it done and leave. We’re certainly not ALL perpetually lonely. Many people enjoy alone time, and you’ve listed several different places that are popular for people to go / do by themselves for that reason. \nThat being said, your idea of having a designated space for people who DO want to socialize is an interesting idea. Like-minded people could convene in that area with the expectation of socializing with strangers, and those who don’t want to could go about their time unbothered. A win-win situation, if you will.",
">\n\nLet me guess. You live in a city?",
">\n\nI do! Right in the middle of one lol.",
">\n\nYeah that's a very city mindset to not understand the friendliness of people going past saying hello. Smiling and nodding or starting a casual chat for 5 minutes then getting on with their day. \nIt's okay. Not saying it's right or wrong. .\nBut you've been heavily influenced by city life.",
">\n\nI live in the suburb and grew up in a somewhat rural town. And i don't want to talk to strangers. I think it's more of a personality thing than where one lives. Kinda like introvert vs extrovert.",
">\n\nWe need to bring back \"third places\"",
">\n\n100%\nThe US has a serious lack of quality third places that aren’t trying to take your money at the same time. (Starbucks sorta tries but they’re also kinda expensive, and a lot of them aren’t the same after Covid) \nI like public parks as a concept but when the weather is bad the only people at them are homeless with no where else to go. Sometimes I’ll start a conversation with the homeless person anyways cause some of them have interesting stories. And some of them have a brain completely rotted by meth & no understanding of what’s actually happening around them anymore. \nI think bars in the US are supposed to be 3rd places but this does leave young people (18-20) with a conundrum of where the fuck to go to be social if all socialization/ adult events are locked behind an ID that says 21+",
">\n\nHence why certain bars do long table and bench style seating. Its already a thing",
">\n\nDo you just sit down and other strangers join you? Or is it a table you reservs in advance with friends?",
">\n\nThink 3 rows of tables with maybe room for 20 people on each side of a table. Obviously people tend to stagger thier seating initially. As the night goes on, and seating options become limited, people end up filling up all of said seats. Alcohol+people=drunk conversations.",
">\n\nI probably wouldn't use such a table because I prefer to be left alone if I'm dining by myself.\nHowever, an evolution of your idea could be a switch or a toggle at each sitting area/table that changes between \"socialization welcome\" to \"privacy, please,\" and when the person sits down, they just change the toggle to the appropriate sign.",
">\n\nThat's actually a pretty cool idea! Leave most tables as is so people can do their own thing if they want to, but keep that designated space for talking. More people would probably do it if there were a designated space and they didn't feel like they were bothering people.",
">\n\nI second this. I’m confused why so many people are saying this is an insane idea? Nobody would be forcing you to sit in the designated social area. \nI think a coffee shop/restaurant would be an awesome place for this. Yes bars exist, but there’s so many people that would benefit from cafes having this spot (sober people, elderly, people who just don’t enjoy loud bars!). \nOP this is a brilliant idea, and I can say as someone who’s self-employed, and not in university, as well as wanting to make more friends who aren’t mostly just drinking buddies, I’d totally be willing to try this out!",
">\n\nMost people don't want to meet random people in a 1 on 1 situation. They want to meet new people when they are already in a comfortable environment. It used to be the community you lived in was that comfortable environment. Urban sprawl, particularly in the western US, made sure communities died. We drive to and from our destination with no opportunity to meet people along the way.",
">\n\nI really like this take.",
">\n\nNot everyone is perpetually lonely, but for those that are it's fine to try to strike up a conversation as long as you respect their space if they don't want to engage.",
">\n\nYou can be chatty with strangers just see how they respond and act accordingly.\nAlso, make sure it doesn’t seem like you are hitting on them. That will make many, women especially, not want to talk to you.",
">\n\nSome people do not take the hint though. You have no idea how many people I deal with who will keep talking and talking despite me just giving short simple answers and facing away from them. Especially down south. But if I tell someone I don’t want to talk to them, they will get offended. So if body language doesn’t cut it, then I’m forced to either be rude or grin and bear it.",
">\n\nHave you tried lying and saying you're in a hurry to get somewhere or late for something? Be like \n\"I'd love to stay and chat with you but I'm late for work\" and proceed to speed walk away from them lmfao",
">\n\nnormally i do but if i'm stuck in a line at a grocery store and simply just wanna vibe i can't lie, it sucks :(",
">\n\nI wouldn't mind this but sometimes I want to be left alone and sit quietly and think. This could be a thing as long as people didn't get angry or judgemental if someone declined to participate in socializing with them",
">\n\nTake my upvote, but leave me be.",
">\n\nI second this. 🙌",
">\n\nSit at the bar/counter.",
">\n\nYou know this is actually a nice idea.\nLike hear me out, if you have this in those types of settings, then that means that you'll eliminate the problem of having strangers come up to you and talk to you when you don't want it.\nIt's a win win.\nPeople who don't wanna talk get left alone and avoid being disturbed, and those that do can find someone who also wants to talk to them without having to annoy those that don't.",
">\n\nIf it's a designated space and people don't *have* to sit there it's okay. I'd like to left alone in these places.",
">\n\nThe bar",
">\n\nThe Blue Oyster?",
">\n\nYeah I dont want to talk you though. I hate small talk. Most conversations with strangers is small talk",
">\n\nGave you an upvote, but really you just need some courage to talk to people. Most the time people just put up a wall because they are scared of getting hurt.",
">\n\nI don't know if it's \"unpopular\" as far as opinions... but y'know what? I think it's an absolutely spectacular idea.",
">\n\nWhat bars and concerts are you going to that it’s not socially acceptable to talk to strangers?",
">\n\nIt's not the place that is social , it's the people .",
">\n\nHaving a designated space to do this is a good idea, ppl will if they want and won’t if they don’t",
">\n\nMostly when strangers talk to me it’s unwanted and they’re men old enough to be my parents sometimes they can act friendly but it becomes clear pretty quick they’re weird and want more than just a friendly chat. I’m always cold/ignore to strangers because of this. I find strangers talking to me inappropriate been followed home multiple times, people on trains have acted inappropriately on three occasions all old enough to be my parents. It can be ok in environments like students chatting to other students even then it shouldn’t be one to one. If it’s someone my age I can brush it off if they leave me alone when they get the idea but funnily enough older people don’t. If your old enough to be my parents unless we are at work please please do not strike up a conversation trying to be friends/more!!!",
">\n\nPractice the phrase “no hablo ingles” to make your pronunciation believable. \nCould potentially backfire if you meet someone fluent in Spanish but if they keep going from there you got the right to be rude. Sometimes you gotta tell people to fuck off cause they just don’t (or don’t want to) get it",
">\n\nI can't imagine this catching on everywhere but maybe for a few specific areas, perhaps the patron could be given a sheet pertaining to a subject they want to talk about?",
">\n\nI actually like that idea! Socratic method in real life",
">\n\nI had an idea of a restaurant where parties are expected to share tables with other parties. Always feel weird taking up a 4 or 6 person table with just me and my wife. Would be interesting to fill those tables a bit more by putting groups together."
] |
>
Yeah I can see if not being good if you didn't sign up for it. In a setting where you're expecting it and embracing it hopefully it would be better
|
[
"Definitely an unpopular opinion, take me upvote. I’m someone who doesn’t enjoy talking to strangers or being bothered in public spaces. If I’m somewhere alone, chances are I either want to be alone, or I’m doing something I need to do and am just trying to get it done and leave. We’re certainly not ALL perpetually lonely. Many people enjoy alone time, and you’ve listed several different places that are popular for people to go / do by themselves for that reason. \nThat being said, your idea of having a designated space for people who DO want to socialize is an interesting idea. Like-minded people could convene in that area with the expectation of socializing with strangers, and those who don’t want to could go about their time unbothered. A win-win situation, if you will.",
">\n\nLet me guess. You live in a city?",
">\n\nI do! Right in the middle of one lol.",
">\n\nYeah that's a very city mindset to not understand the friendliness of people going past saying hello. Smiling and nodding or starting a casual chat for 5 minutes then getting on with their day. \nIt's okay. Not saying it's right or wrong. .\nBut you've been heavily influenced by city life.",
">\n\nI live in the suburb and grew up in a somewhat rural town. And i don't want to talk to strangers. I think it's more of a personality thing than where one lives. Kinda like introvert vs extrovert.",
">\n\nWe need to bring back \"third places\"",
">\n\n100%\nThe US has a serious lack of quality third places that aren’t trying to take your money at the same time. (Starbucks sorta tries but they’re also kinda expensive, and a lot of them aren’t the same after Covid) \nI like public parks as a concept but when the weather is bad the only people at them are homeless with no where else to go. Sometimes I’ll start a conversation with the homeless person anyways cause some of them have interesting stories. And some of them have a brain completely rotted by meth & no understanding of what’s actually happening around them anymore. \nI think bars in the US are supposed to be 3rd places but this does leave young people (18-20) with a conundrum of where the fuck to go to be social if all socialization/ adult events are locked behind an ID that says 21+",
">\n\nHence why certain bars do long table and bench style seating. Its already a thing",
">\n\nDo you just sit down and other strangers join you? Or is it a table you reservs in advance with friends?",
">\n\nThink 3 rows of tables with maybe room for 20 people on each side of a table. Obviously people tend to stagger thier seating initially. As the night goes on, and seating options become limited, people end up filling up all of said seats. Alcohol+people=drunk conversations.",
">\n\nI probably wouldn't use such a table because I prefer to be left alone if I'm dining by myself.\nHowever, an evolution of your idea could be a switch or a toggle at each sitting area/table that changes between \"socialization welcome\" to \"privacy, please,\" and when the person sits down, they just change the toggle to the appropriate sign.",
">\n\nThat's actually a pretty cool idea! Leave most tables as is so people can do their own thing if they want to, but keep that designated space for talking. More people would probably do it if there were a designated space and they didn't feel like they were bothering people.",
">\n\nI second this. I’m confused why so many people are saying this is an insane idea? Nobody would be forcing you to sit in the designated social area. \nI think a coffee shop/restaurant would be an awesome place for this. Yes bars exist, but there’s so many people that would benefit from cafes having this spot (sober people, elderly, people who just don’t enjoy loud bars!). \nOP this is a brilliant idea, and I can say as someone who’s self-employed, and not in university, as well as wanting to make more friends who aren’t mostly just drinking buddies, I’d totally be willing to try this out!",
">\n\nMost people don't want to meet random people in a 1 on 1 situation. They want to meet new people when they are already in a comfortable environment. It used to be the community you lived in was that comfortable environment. Urban sprawl, particularly in the western US, made sure communities died. We drive to and from our destination with no opportunity to meet people along the way.",
">\n\nI really like this take.",
">\n\nNot everyone is perpetually lonely, but for those that are it's fine to try to strike up a conversation as long as you respect their space if they don't want to engage.",
">\n\nYou can be chatty with strangers just see how they respond and act accordingly.\nAlso, make sure it doesn’t seem like you are hitting on them. That will make many, women especially, not want to talk to you.",
">\n\nSome people do not take the hint though. You have no idea how many people I deal with who will keep talking and talking despite me just giving short simple answers and facing away from them. Especially down south. But if I tell someone I don’t want to talk to them, they will get offended. So if body language doesn’t cut it, then I’m forced to either be rude or grin and bear it.",
">\n\nHave you tried lying and saying you're in a hurry to get somewhere or late for something? Be like \n\"I'd love to stay and chat with you but I'm late for work\" and proceed to speed walk away from them lmfao",
">\n\nnormally i do but if i'm stuck in a line at a grocery store and simply just wanna vibe i can't lie, it sucks :(",
">\n\nI wouldn't mind this but sometimes I want to be left alone and sit quietly and think. This could be a thing as long as people didn't get angry or judgemental if someone declined to participate in socializing with them",
">\n\nTake my upvote, but leave me be.",
">\n\nI second this. 🙌",
">\n\nSit at the bar/counter.",
">\n\nYou know this is actually a nice idea.\nLike hear me out, if you have this in those types of settings, then that means that you'll eliminate the problem of having strangers come up to you and talk to you when you don't want it.\nIt's a win win.\nPeople who don't wanna talk get left alone and avoid being disturbed, and those that do can find someone who also wants to talk to them without having to annoy those that don't.",
">\n\nIf it's a designated space and people don't *have* to sit there it's okay. I'd like to left alone in these places.",
">\n\nThe bar",
">\n\nThe Blue Oyster?",
">\n\nYeah I dont want to talk you though. I hate small talk. Most conversations with strangers is small talk",
">\n\nGave you an upvote, but really you just need some courage to talk to people. Most the time people just put up a wall because they are scared of getting hurt.",
">\n\nI don't know if it's \"unpopular\" as far as opinions... but y'know what? I think it's an absolutely spectacular idea.",
">\n\nWhat bars and concerts are you going to that it’s not socially acceptable to talk to strangers?",
">\n\nIt's not the place that is social , it's the people .",
">\n\nHaving a designated space to do this is a good idea, ppl will if they want and won’t if they don’t",
">\n\nMostly when strangers talk to me it’s unwanted and they’re men old enough to be my parents sometimes they can act friendly but it becomes clear pretty quick they’re weird and want more than just a friendly chat. I’m always cold/ignore to strangers because of this. I find strangers talking to me inappropriate been followed home multiple times, people on trains have acted inappropriately on three occasions all old enough to be my parents. It can be ok in environments like students chatting to other students even then it shouldn’t be one to one. If it’s someone my age I can brush it off if they leave me alone when they get the idea but funnily enough older people don’t. If your old enough to be my parents unless we are at work please please do not strike up a conversation trying to be friends/more!!!",
">\n\nPractice the phrase “no hablo ingles” to make your pronunciation believable. \nCould potentially backfire if you meet someone fluent in Spanish but if they keep going from there you got the right to be rude. Sometimes you gotta tell people to fuck off cause they just don’t (or don’t want to) get it",
">\n\nI can't imagine this catching on everywhere but maybe for a few specific areas, perhaps the patron could be given a sheet pertaining to a subject they want to talk about?",
">\n\nI actually like that idea! Socratic method in real life",
">\n\nI had an idea of a restaurant where parties are expected to share tables with other parties. Always feel weird taking up a 4 or 6 person table with just me and my wife. Would be interesting to fill those tables a bit more by putting groups together.",
">\n\nI had to sit at a table with people I didn't know on an Amtrak train. It sucks."
] |
>
Someone might be open to talk, but only with someone who looks right. Decades ago, people could make reasonable guesses about whether someone wanted to be bothered with eye contact & such. Mistakes were made, but that was life.
|
[
"Definitely an unpopular opinion, take me upvote. I’m someone who doesn’t enjoy talking to strangers or being bothered in public spaces. If I’m somewhere alone, chances are I either want to be alone, or I’m doing something I need to do and am just trying to get it done and leave. We’re certainly not ALL perpetually lonely. Many people enjoy alone time, and you’ve listed several different places that are popular for people to go / do by themselves for that reason. \nThat being said, your idea of having a designated space for people who DO want to socialize is an interesting idea. Like-minded people could convene in that area with the expectation of socializing with strangers, and those who don’t want to could go about their time unbothered. A win-win situation, if you will.",
">\n\nLet me guess. You live in a city?",
">\n\nI do! Right in the middle of one lol.",
">\n\nYeah that's a very city mindset to not understand the friendliness of people going past saying hello. Smiling and nodding or starting a casual chat for 5 minutes then getting on with their day. \nIt's okay. Not saying it's right or wrong. .\nBut you've been heavily influenced by city life.",
">\n\nI live in the suburb and grew up in a somewhat rural town. And i don't want to talk to strangers. I think it's more of a personality thing than where one lives. Kinda like introvert vs extrovert.",
">\n\nWe need to bring back \"third places\"",
">\n\n100%\nThe US has a serious lack of quality third places that aren’t trying to take your money at the same time. (Starbucks sorta tries but they’re also kinda expensive, and a lot of them aren’t the same after Covid) \nI like public parks as a concept but when the weather is bad the only people at them are homeless with no where else to go. Sometimes I’ll start a conversation with the homeless person anyways cause some of them have interesting stories. And some of them have a brain completely rotted by meth & no understanding of what’s actually happening around them anymore. \nI think bars in the US are supposed to be 3rd places but this does leave young people (18-20) with a conundrum of where the fuck to go to be social if all socialization/ adult events are locked behind an ID that says 21+",
">\n\nHence why certain bars do long table and bench style seating. Its already a thing",
">\n\nDo you just sit down and other strangers join you? Or is it a table you reservs in advance with friends?",
">\n\nThink 3 rows of tables with maybe room for 20 people on each side of a table. Obviously people tend to stagger thier seating initially. As the night goes on, and seating options become limited, people end up filling up all of said seats. Alcohol+people=drunk conversations.",
">\n\nI probably wouldn't use such a table because I prefer to be left alone if I'm dining by myself.\nHowever, an evolution of your idea could be a switch or a toggle at each sitting area/table that changes between \"socialization welcome\" to \"privacy, please,\" and when the person sits down, they just change the toggle to the appropriate sign.",
">\n\nThat's actually a pretty cool idea! Leave most tables as is so people can do their own thing if they want to, but keep that designated space for talking. More people would probably do it if there were a designated space and they didn't feel like they were bothering people.",
">\n\nI second this. I’m confused why so many people are saying this is an insane idea? Nobody would be forcing you to sit in the designated social area. \nI think a coffee shop/restaurant would be an awesome place for this. Yes bars exist, but there’s so many people that would benefit from cafes having this spot (sober people, elderly, people who just don’t enjoy loud bars!). \nOP this is a brilliant idea, and I can say as someone who’s self-employed, and not in university, as well as wanting to make more friends who aren’t mostly just drinking buddies, I’d totally be willing to try this out!",
">\n\nMost people don't want to meet random people in a 1 on 1 situation. They want to meet new people when they are already in a comfortable environment. It used to be the community you lived in was that comfortable environment. Urban sprawl, particularly in the western US, made sure communities died. We drive to and from our destination with no opportunity to meet people along the way.",
">\n\nI really like this take.",
">\n\nNot everyone is perpetually lonely, but for those that are it's fine to try to strike up a conversation as long as you respect their space if they don't want to engage.",
">\n\nYou can be chatty with strangers just see how they respond and act accordingly.\nAlso, make sure it doesn’t seem like you are hitting on them. That will make many, women especially, not want to talk to you.",
">\n\nSome people do not take the hint though. You have no idea how many people I deal with who will keep talking and talking despite me just giving short simple answers and facing away from them. Especially down south. But if I tell someone I don’t want to talk to them, they will get offended. So if body language doesn’t cut it, then I’m forced to either be rude or grin and bear it.",
">\n\nHave you tried lying and saying you're in a hurry to get somewhere or late for something? Be like \n\"I'd love to stay and chat with you but I'm late for work\" and proceed to speed walk away from them lmfao",
">\n\nnormally i do but if i'm stuck in a line at a grocery store and simply just wanna vibe i can't lie, it sucks :(",
">\n\nI wouldn't mind this but sometimes I want to be left alone and sit quietly and think. This could be a thing as long as people didn't get angry or judgemental if someone declined to participate in socializing with them",
">\n\nTake my upvote, but leave me be.",
">\n\nI second this. 🙌",
">\n\nSit at the bar/counter.",
">\n\nYou know this is actually a nice idea.\nLike hear me out, if you have this in those types of settings, then that means that you'll eliminate the problem of having strangers come up to you and talk to you when you don't want it.\nIt's a win win.\nPeople who don't wanna talk get left alone and avoid being disturbed, and those that do can find someone who also wants to talk to them without having to annoy those that don't.",
">\n\nIf it's a designated space and people don't *have* to sit there it's okay. I'd like to left alone in these places.",
">\n\nThe bar",
">\n\nThe Blue Oyster?",
">\n\nYeah I dont want to talk you though. I hate small talk. Most conversations with strangers is small talk",
">\n\nGave you an upvote, but really you just need some courage to talk to people. Most the time people just put up a wall because they are scared of getting hurt.",
">\n\nI don't know if it's \"unpopular\" as far as opinions... but y'know what? I think it's an absolutely spectacular idea.",
">\n\nWhat bars and concerts are you going to that it’s not socially acceptable to talk to strangers?",
">\n\nIt's not the place that is social , it's the people .",
">\n\nHaving a designated space to do this is a good idea, ppl will if they want and won’t if they don’t",
">\n\nMostly when strangers talk to me it’s unwanted and they’re men old enough to be my parents sometimes they can act friendly but it becomes clear pretty quick they’re weird and want more than just a friendly chat. I’m always cold/ignore to strangers because of this. I find strangers talking to me inappropriate been followed home multiple times, people on trains have acted inappropriately on three occasions all old enough to be my parents. It can be ok in environments like students chatting to other students even then it shouldn’t be one to one. If it’s someone my age I can brush it off if they leave me alone when they get the idea but funnily enough older people don’t. If your old enough to be my parents unless we are at work please please do not strike up a conversation trying to be friends/more!!!",
">\n\nPractice the phrase “no hablo ingles” to make your pronunciation believable. \nCould potentially backfire if you meet someone fluent in Spanish but if they keep going from there you got the right to be rude. Sometimes you gotta tell people to fuck off cause they just don’t (or don’t want to) get it",
">\n\nI can't imagine this catching on everywhere but maybe for a few specific areas, perhaps the patron could be given a sheet pertaining to a subject they want to talk about?",
">\n\nI actually like that idea! Socratic method in real life",
">\n\nI had an idea of a restaurant where parties are expected to share tables with other parties. Always feel weird taking up a 4 or 6 person table with just me and my wife. Would be interesting to fill those tables a bit more by putting groups together.",
">\n\nI had to sit at a table with people I didn't know on an Amtrak train. It sucks.",
">\n\nYeah I can see if not being good if you didn't sign up for it. In a setting where you're expecting it and embracing it hopefully it would be better"
] |
>
That’s you man. You can talk to anyone you want anywhere.
|
[
"Definitely an unpopular opinion, take me upvote. I’m someone who doesn’t enjoy talking to strangers or being bothered in public spaces. If I’m somewhere alone, chances are I either want to be alone, or I’m doing something I need to do and am just trying to get it done and leave. We’re certainly not ALL perpetually lonely. Many people enjoy alone time, and you’ve listed several different places that are popular for people to go / do by themselves for that reason. \nThat being said, your idea of having a designated space for people who DO want to socialize is an interesting idea. Like-minded people could convene in that area with the expectation of socializing with strangers, and those who don’t want to could go about their time unbothered. A win-win situation, if you will.",
">\n\nLet me guess. You live in a city?",
">\n\nI do! Right in the middle of one lol.",
">\n\nYeah that's a very city mindset to not understand the friendliness of people going past saying hello. Smiling and nodding or starting a casual chat for 5 minutes then getting on with their day. \nIt's okay. Not saying it's right or wrong. .\nBut you've been heavily influenced by city life.",
">\n\nI live in the suburb and grew up in a somewhat rural town. And i don't want to talk to strangers. I think it's more of a personality thing than where one lives. Kinda like introvert vs extrovert.",
">\n\nWe need to bring back \"third places\"",
">\n\n100%\nThe US has a serious lack of quality third places that aren’t trying to take your money at the same time. (Starbucks sorta tries but they’re also kinda expensive, and a lot of them aren’t the same after Covid) \nI like public parks as a concept but when the weather is bad the only people at them are homeless with no where else to go. Sometimes I’ll start a conversation with the homeless person anyways cause some of them have interesting stories. And some of them have a brain completely rotted by meth & no understanding of what’s actually happening around them anymore. \nI think bars in the US are supposed to be 3rd places but this does leave young people (18-20) with a conundrum of where the fuck to go to be social if all socialization/ adult events are locked behind an ID that says 21+",
">\n\nHence why certain bars do long table and bench style seating. Its already a thing",
">\n\nDo you just sit down and other strangers join you? Or is it a table you reservs in advance with friends?",
">\n\nThink 3 rows of tables with maybe room for 20 people on each side of a table. Obviously people tend to stagger thier seating initially. As the night goes on, and seating options become limited, people end up filling up all of said seats. Alcohol+people=drunk conversations.",
">\n\nI probably wouldn't use such a table because I prefer to be left alone if I'm dining by myself.\nHowever, an evolution of your idea could be a switch or a toggle at each sitting area/table that changes between \"socialization welcome\" to \"privacy, please,\" and when the person sits down, they just change the toggle to the appropriate sign.",
">\n\nThat's actually a pretty cool idea! Leave most tables as is so people can do their own thing if they want to, but keep that designated space for talking. More people would probably do it if there were a designated space and they didn't feel like they were bothering people.",
">\n\nI second this. I’m confused why so many people are saying this is an insane idea? Nobody would be forcing you to sit in the designated social area. \nI think a coffee shop/restaurant would be an awesome place for this. Yes bars exist, but there’s so many people that would benefit from cafes having this spot (sober people, elderly, people who just don’t enjoy loud bars!). \nOP this is a brilliant idea, and I can say as someone who’s self-employed, and not in university, as well as wanting to make more friends who aren’t mostly just drinking buddies, I’d totally be willing to try this out!",
">\n\nMost people don't want to meet random people in a 1 on 1 situation. They want to meet new people when they are already in a comfortable environment. It used to be the community you lived in was that comfortable environment. Urban sprawl, particularly in the western US, made sure communities died. We drive to and from our destination with no opportunity to meet people along the way.",
">\n\nI really like this take.",
">\n\nNot everyone is perpetually lonely, but for those that are it's fine to try to strike up a conversation as long as you respect their space if they don't want to engage.",
">\n\nYou can be chatty with strangers just see how they respond and act accordingly.\nAlso, make sure it doesn’t seem like you are hitting on them. That will make many, women especially, not want to talk to you.",
">\n\nSome people do not take the hint though. You have no idea how many people I deal with who will keep talking and talking despite me just giving short simple answers and facing away from them. Especially down south. But if I tell someone I don’t want to talk to them, they will get offended. So if body language doesn’t cut it, then I’m forced to either be rude or grin and bear it.",
">\n\nHave you tried lying and saying you're in a hurry to get somewhere or late for something? Be like \n\"I'd love to stay and chat with you but I'm late for work\" and proceed to speed walk away from them lmfao",
">\n\nnormally i do but if i'm stuck in a line at a grocery store and simply just wanna vibe i can't lie, it sucks :(",
">\n\nI wouldn't mind this but sometimes I want to be left alone and sit quietly and think. This could be a thing as long as people didn't get angry or judgemental if someone declined to participate in socializing with them",
">\n\nTake my upvote, but leave me be.",
">\n\nI second this. 🙌",
">\n\nSit at the bar/counter.",
">\n\nYou know this is actually a nice idea.\nLike hear me out, if you have this in those types of settings, then that means that you'll eliminate the problem of having strangers come up to you and talk to you when you don't want it.\nIt's a win win.\nPeople who don't wanna talk get left alone and avoid being disturbed, and those that do can find someone who also wants to talk to them without having to annoy those that don't.",
">\n\nIf it's a designated space and people don't *have* to sit there it's okay. I'd like to left alone in these places.",
">\n\nThe bar",
">\n\nThe Blue Oyster?",
">\n\nYeah I dont want to talk you though. I hate small talk. Most conversations with strangers is small talk",
">\n\nGave you an upvote, but really you just need some courage to talk to people. Most the time people just put up a wall because they are scared of getting hurt.",
">\n\nI don't know if it's \"unpopular\" as far as opinions... but y'know what? I think it's an absolutely spectacular idea.",
">\n\nWhat bars and concerts are you going to that it’s not socially acceptable to talk to strangers?",
">\n\nIt's not the place that is social , it's the people .",
">\n\nHaving a designated space to do this is a good idea, ppl will if they want and won’t if they don’t",
">\n\nMostly when strangers talk to me it’s unwanted and they’re men old enough to be my parents sometimes they can act friendly but it becomes clear pretty quick they’re weird and want more than just a friendly chat. I’m always cold/ignore to strangers because of this. I find strangers talking to me inappropriate been followed home multiple times, people on trains have acted inappropriately on three occasions all old enough to be my parents. It can be ok in environments like students chatting to other students even then it shouldn’t be one to one. If it’s someone my age I can brush it off if they leave me alone when they get the idea but funnily enough older people don’t. If your old enough to be my parents unless we are at work please please do not strike up a conversation trying to be friends/more!!!",
">\n\nPractice the phrase “no hablo ingles” to make your pronunciation believable. \nCould potentially backfire if you meet someone fluent in Spanish but if they keep going from there you got the right to be rude. Sometimes you gotta tell people to fuck off cause they just don’t (or don’t want to) get it",
">\n\nI can't imagine this catching on everywhere but maybe for a few specific areas, perhaps the patron could be given a sheet pertaining to a subject they want to talk about?",
">\n\nI actually like that idea! Socratic method in real life",
">\n\nI had an idea of a restaurant where parties are expected to share tables with other parties. Always feel weird taking up a 4 or 6 person table with just me and my wife. Would be interesting to fill those tables a bit more by putting groups together.",
">\n\nI had to sit at a table with people I didn't know on an Amtrak train. It sucks.",
">\n\nYeah I can see if not being good if you didn't sign up for it. In a setting where you're expecting it and embracing it hopefully it would be better",
">\n\nSomeone might be open to talk, but only with someone who looks right. Decades ago, people could make reasonable guesses about whether someone wanted to be bothered with eye contact & such. Mistakes were made, but that was life."
] |
>
I already hardly go out cause I’m scared of random small talk. This would make me an official hermit. Here’s an upvote.
|
[
"Definitely an unpopular opinion, take me upvote. I’m someone who doesn’t enjoy talking to strangers or being bothered in public spaces. If I’m somewhere alone, chances are I either want to be alone, or I’m doing something I need to do and am just trying to get it done and leave. We’re certainly not ALL perpetually lonely. Many people enjoy alone time, and you’ve listed several different places that are popular for people to go / do by themselves for that reason. \nThat being said, your idea of having a designated space for people who DO want to socialize is an interesting idea. Like-minded people could convene in that area with the expectation of socializing with strangers, and those who don’t want to could go about their time unbothered. A win-win situation, if you will.",
">\n\nLet me guess. You live in a city?",
">\n\nI do! Right in the middle of one lol.",
">\n\nYeah that's a very city mindset to not understand the friendliness of people going past saying hello. Smiling and nodding or starting a casual chat for 5 minutes then getting on with their day. \nIt's okay. Not saying it's right or wrong. .\nBut you've been heavily influenced by city life.",
">\n\nI live in the suburb and grew up in a somewhat rural town. And i don't want to talk to strangers. I think it's more of a personality thing than where one lives. Kinda like introvert vs extrovert.",
">\n\nWe need to bring back \"third places\"",
">\n\n100%\nThe US has a serious lack of quality third places that aren’t trying to take your money at the same time. (Starbucks sorta tries but they’re also kinda expensive, and a lot of them aren’t the same after Covid) \nI like public parks as a concept but when the weather is bad the only people at them are homeless with no where else to go. Sometimes I’ll start a conversation with the homeless person anyways cause some of them have interesting stories. And some of them have a brain completely rotted by meth & no understanding of what’s actually happening around them anymore. \nI think bars in the US are supposed to be 3rd places but this does leave young people (18-20) with a conundrum of where the fuck to go to be social if all socialization/ adult events are locked behind an ID that says 21+",
">\n\nHence why certain bars do long table and bench style seating. Its already a thing",
">\n\nDo you just sit down and other strangers join you? Or is it a table you reservs in advance with friends?",
">\n\nThink 3 rows of tables with maybe room for 20 people on each side of a table. Obviously people tend to stagger thier seating initially. As the night goes on, and seating options become limited, people end up filling up all of said seats. Alcohol+people=drunk conversations.",
">\n\nI probably wouldn't use such a table because I prefer to be left alone if I'm dining by myself.\nHowever, an evolution of your idea could be a switch or a toggle at each sitting area/table that changes between \"socialization welcome\" to \"privacy, please,\" and when the person sits down, they just change the toggle to the appropriate sign.",
">\n\nThat's actually a pretty cool idea! Leave most tables as is so people can do their own thing if they want to, but keep that designated space for talking. More people would probably do it if there were a designated space and they didn't feel like they were bothering people.",
">\n\nI second this. I’m confused why so many people are saying this is an insane idea? Nobody would be forcing you to sit in the designated social area. \nI think a coffee shop/restaurant would be an awesome place for this. Yes bars exist, but there’s so many people that would benefit from cafes having this spot (sober people, elderly, people who just don’t enjoy loud bars!). \nOP this is a brilliant idea, and I can say as someone who’s self-employed, and not in university, as well as wanting to make more friends who aren’t mostly just drinking buddies, I’d totally be willing to try this out!",
">\n\nMost people don't want to meet random people in a 1 on 1 situation. They want to meet new people when they are already in a comfortable environment. It used to be the community you lived in was that comfortable environment. Urban sprawl, particularly in the western US, made sure communities died. We drive to and from our destination with no opportunity to meet people along the way.",
">\n\nI really like this take.",
">\n\nNot everyone is perpetually lonely, but for those that are it's fine to try to strike up a conversation as long as you respect their space if they don't want to engage.",
">\n\nYou can be chatty with strangers just see how they respond and act accordingly.\nAlso, make sure it doesn’t seem like you are hitting on them. That will make many, women especially, not want to talk to you.",
">\n\nSome people do not take the hint though. You have no idea how many people I deal with who will keep talking and talking despite me just giving short simple answers and facing away from them. Especially down south. But if I tell someone I don’t want to talk to them, they will get offended. So if body language doesn’t cut it, then I’m forced to either be rude or grin and bear it.",
">\n\nHave you tried lying and saying you're in a hurry to get somewhere or late for something? Be like \n\"I'd love to stay and chat with you but I'm late for work\" and proceed to speed walk away from them lmfao",
">\n\nnormally i do but if i'm stuck in a line at a grocery store and simply just wanna vibe i can't lie, it sucks :(",
">\n\nI wouldn't mind this but sometimes I want to be left alone and sit quietly and think. This could be a thing as long as people didn't get angry or judgemental if someone declined to participate in socializing with them",
">\n\nTake my upvote, but leave me be.",
">\n\nI second this. 🙌",
">\n\nSit at the bar/counter.",
">\n\nYou know this is actually a nice idea.\nLike hear me out, if you have this in those types of settings, then that means that you'll eliminate the problem of having strangers come up to you and talk to you when you don't want it.\nIt's a win win.\nPeople who don't wanna talk get left alone and avoid being disturbed, and those that do can find someone who also wants to talk to them without having to annoy those that don't.",
">\n\nIf it's a designated space and people don't *have* to sit there it's okay. I'd like to left alone in these places.",
">\n\nThe bar",
">\n\nThe Blue Oyster?",
">\n\nYeah I dont want to talk you though. I hate small talk. Most conversations with strangers is small talk",
">\n\nGave you an upvote, but really you just need some courage to talk to people. Most the time people just put up a wall because they are scared of getting hurt.",
">\n\nI don't know if it's \"unpopular\" as far as opinions... but y'know what? I think it's an absolutely spectacular idea.",
">\n\nWhat bars and concerts are you going to that it’s not socially acceptable to talk to strangers?",
">\n\nIt's not the place that is social , it's the people .",
">\n\nHaving a designated space to do this is a good idea, ppl will if they want and won’t if they don’t",
">\n\nMostly when strangers talk to me it’s unwanted and they’re men old enough to be my parents sometimes they can act friendly but it becomes clear pretty quick they’re weird and want more than just a friendly chat. I’m always cold/ignore to strangers because of this. I find strangers talking to me inappropriate been followed home multiple times, people on trains have acted inappropriately on three occasions all old enough to be my parents. It can be ok in environments like students chatting to other students even then it shouldn’t be one to one. If it’s someone my age I can brush it off if they leave me alone when they get the idea but funnily enough older people don’t. If your old enough to be my parents unless we are at work please please do not strike up a conversation trying to be friends/more!!!",
">\n\nPractice the phrase “no hablo ingles” to make your pronunciation believable. \nCould potentially backfire if you meet someone fluent in Spanish but if they keep going from there you got the right to be rude. Sometimes you gotta tell people to fuck off cause they just don’t (or don’t want to) get it",
">\n\nI can't imagine this catching on everywhere but maybe for a few specific areas, perhaps the patron could be given a sheet pertaining to a subject they want to talk about?",
">\n\nI actually like that idea! Socratic method in real life",
">\n\nI had an idea of a restaurant where parties are expected to share tables with other parties. Always feel weird taking up a 4 or 6 person table with just me and my wife. Would be interesting to fill those tables a bit more by putting groups together.",
">\n\nI had to sit at a table with people I didn't know on an Amtrak train. It sucks.",
">\n\nYeah I can see if not being good if you didn't sign up for it. In a setting where you're expecting it and embracing it hopefully it would be better",
">\n\nSomeone might be open to talk, but only with someone who looks right. Decades ago, people could make reasonable guesses about whether someone wanted to be bothered with eye contact & such. Mistakes were made, but that was life.",
">\n\nThat’s you man. You can talk to anyone you want anywhere."
] |
>
Lots of places are intended to be. It's just that they get enough regulars that a social group / clique forms and those very people start going to see their friends, as opposed to meet new people, and when new people do arrive, it's a stranger around an existing clique. Happens with bars, coffee shops, even events that are explicitly designated as places to meet people such as meetup groups.
|
[
"Definitely an unpopular opinion, take me upvote. I’m someone who doesn’t enjoy talking to strangers or being bothered in public spaces. If I’m somewhere alone, chances are I either want to be alone, or I’m doing something I need to do and am just trying to get it done and leave. We’re certainly not ALL perpetually lonely. Many people enjoy alone time, and you’ve listed several different places that are popular for people to go / do by themselves for that reason. \nThat being said, your idea of having a designated space for people who DO want to socialize is an interesting idea. Like-minded people could convene in that area with the expectation of socializing with strangers, and those who don’t want to could go about their time unbothered. A win-win situation, if you will.",
">\n\nLet me guess. You live in a city?",
">\n\nI do! Right in the middle of one lol.",
">\n\nYeah that's a very city mindset to not understand the friendliness of people going past saying hello. Smiling and nodding or starting a casual chat for 5 minutes then getting on with their day. \nIt's okay. Not saying it's right or wrong. .\nBut you've been heavily influenced by city life.",
">\n\nI live in the suburb and grew up in a somewhat rural town. And i don't want to talk to strangers. I think it's more of a personality thing than where one lives. Kinda like introvert vs extrovert.",
">\n\nWe need to bring back \"third places\"",
">\n\n100%\nThe US has a serious lack of quality third places that aren’t trying to take your money at the same time. (Starbucks sorta tries but they’re also kinda expensive, and a lot of them aren’t the same after Covid) \nI like public parks as a concept but when the weather is bad the only people at them are homeless with no where else to go. Sometimes I’ll start a conversation with the homeless person anyways cause some of them have interesting stories. And some of them have a brain completely rotted by meth & no understanding of what’s actually happening around them anymore. \nI think bars in the US are supposed to be 3rd places but this does leave young people (18-20) with a conundrum of where the fuck to go to be social if all socialization/ adult events are locked behind an ID that says 21+",
">\n\nHence why certain bars do long table and bench style seating. Its already a thing",
">\n\nDo you just sit down and other strangers join you? Or is it a table you reservs in advance with friends?",
">\n\nThink 3 rows of tables with maybe room for 20 people on each side of a table. Obviously people tend to stagger thier seating initially. As the night goes on, and seating options become limited, people end up filling up all of said seats. Alcohol+people=drunk conversations.",
">\n\nI probably wouldn't use such a table because I prefer to be left alone if I'm dining by myself.\nHowever, an evolution of your idea could be a switch or a toggle at each sitting area/table that changes between \"socialization welcome\" to \"privacy, please,\" and when the person sits down, they just change the toggle to the appropriate sign.",
">\n\nThat's actually a pretty cool idea! Leave most tables as is so people can do their own thing if they want to, but keep that designated space for talking. More people would probably do it if there were a designated space and they didn't feel like they were bothering people.",
">\n\nI second this. I’m confused why so many people are saying this is an insane idea? Nobody would be forcing you to sit in the designated social area. \nI think a coffee shop/restaurant would be an awesome place for this. Yes bars exist, but there’s so many people that would benefit from cafes having this spot (sober people, elderly, people who just don’t enjoy loud bars!). \nOP this is a brilliant idea, and I can say as someone who’s self-employed, and not in university, as well as wanting to make more friends who aren’t mostly just drinking buddies, I’d totally be willing to try this out!",
">\n\nMost people don't want to meet random people in a 1 on 1 situation. They want to meet new people when they are already in a comfortable environment. It used to be the community you lived in was that comfortable environment. Urban sprawl, particularly in the western US, made sure communities died. We drive to and from our destination with no opportunity to meet people along the way.",
">\n\nI really like this take.",
">\n\nNot everyone is perpetually lonely, but for those that are it's fine to try to strike up a conversation as long as you respect their space if they don't want to engage.",
">\n\nYou can be chatty with strangers just see how they respond and act accordingly.\nAlso, make sure it doesn’t seem like you are hitting on them. That will make many, women especially, not want to talk to you.",
">\n\nSome people do not take the hint though. You have no idea how many people I deal with who will keep talking and talking despite me just giving short simple answers and facing away from them. Especially down south. But if I tell someone I don’t want to talk to them, they will get offended. So if body language doesn’t cut it, then I’m forced to either be rude or grin and bear it.",
">\n\nHave you tried lying and saying you're in a hurry to get somewhere or late for something? Be like \n\"I'd love to stay and chat with you but I'm late for work\" and proceed to speed walk away from them lmfao",
">\n\nnormally i do but if i'm stuck in a line at a grocery store and simply just wanna vibe i can't lie, it sucks :(",
">\n\nI wouldn't mind this but sometimes I want to be left alone and sit quietly and think. This could be a thing as long as people didn't get angry or judgemental if someone declined to participate in socializing with them",
">\n\nTake my upvote, but leave me be.",
">\n\nI second this. 🙌",
">\n\nSit at the bar/counter.",
">\n\nYou know this is actually a nice idea.\nLike hear me out, if you have this in those types of settings, then that means that you'll eliminate the problem of having strangers come up to you and talk to you when you don't want it.\nIt's a win win.\nPeople who don't wanna talk get left alone and avoid being disturbed, and those that do can find someone who also wants to talk to them without having to annoy those that don't.",
">\n\nIf it's a designated space and people don't *have* to sit there it's okay. I'd like to left alone in these places.",
">\n\nThe bar",
">\n\nThe Blue Oyster?",
">\n\nYeah I dont want to talk you though. I hate small talk. Most conversations with strangers is small talk",
">\n\nGave you an upvote, but really you just need some courage to talk to people. Most the time people just put up a wall because they are scared of getting hurt.",
">\n\nI don't know if it's \"unpopular\" as far as opinions... but y'know what? I think it's an absolutely spectacular idea.",
">\n\nWhat bars and concerts are you going to that it’s not socially acceptable to talk to strangers?",
">\n\nIt's not the place that is social , it's the people .",
">\n\nHaving a designated space to do this is a good idea, ppl will if they want and won’t if they don’t",
">\n\nMostly when strangers talk to me it’s unwanted and they’re men old enough to be my parents sometimes they can act friendly but it becomes clear pretty quick they’re weird and want more than just a friendly chat. I’m always cold/ignore to strangers because of this. I find strangers talking to me inappropriate been followed home multiple times, people on trains have acted inappropriately on three occasions all old enough to be my parents. It can be ok in environments like students chatting to other students even then it shouldn’t be one to one. If it’s someone my age I can brush it off if they leave me alone when they get the idea but funnily enough older people don’t. If your old enough to be my parents unless we are at work please please do not strike up a conversation trying to be friends/more!!!",
">\n\nPractice the phrase “no hablo ingles” to make your pronunciation believable. \nCould potentially backfire if you meet someone fluent in Spanish but if they keep going from there you got the right to be rude. Sometimes you gotta tell people to fuck off cause they just don’t (or don’t want to) get it",
">\n\nI can't imagine this catching on everywhere but maybe for a few specific areas, perhaps the patron could be given a sheet pertaining to a subject they want to talk about?",
">\n\nI actually like that idea! Socratic method in real life",
">\n\nI had an idea of a restaurant where parties are expected to share tables with other parties. Always feel weird taking up a 4 or 6 person table with just me and my wife. Would be interesting to fill those tables a bit more by putting groups together.",
">\n\nI had to sit at a table with people I didn't know on an Amtrak train. It sucks.",
">\n\nYeah I can see if not being good if you didn't sign up for it. In a setting where you're expecting it and embracing it hopefully it would be better",
">\n\nSomeone might be open to talk, but only with someone who looks right. Decades ago, people could make reasonable guesses about whether someone wanted to be bothered with eye contact & such. Mistakes were made, but that was life.",
">\n\nThat’s you man. You can talk to anyone you want anywhere.",
">\n\nI already hardly go out cause I’m scared of random small talk. This would make me an official hermit. Here’s an upvote."
] |
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