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2024-12-30T06:02:33
>>492768398
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2024-12-30T06:02:33
>>492768263 do hohols really?
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2024-12-30T06:02:47
>>492768048 Die in a trench faggot.
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2024-12-30T06:03:04
3 more weeks until natos money gets turned off and russia rams all of europe up the ass. super hard.
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2024-12-30T06:03:07
>>492764907 NATO, year 1: We'll overwhelm Russia with shock and awe of our advanced capabilities. We'll send volunteers and train the drafted Ukrainians and Russia can't keep up even if they mobilised. The war will be over in six months. In fact Russia will run out of ammunition and fuel in just three days! Russia: We don't need a draft. We're preparing for five years of operations, maybe more on a wider field. NATO, year 2: Give up Russia, you can't resist our huge counter offensive. (Panting) We have a million man Ukrainian army with NATO tanks. You're doomed to fail. Russia: Your tanks burn across Zaporozhye. Your counter offensive was a catastrophic failure planned,trained and supplied by yourselves, an utter disaster that lost the Kiev regime 200,000 men with all objectives failed,. We don't need a draft. We're just getting started, you have no idea what we can do. NATO, year 3: (Breathing heavily) Give up. You can't win. We are sending F16s,ATACM's,Stormshadows,Abrams and Challenger 2's!. (Breathing heavily) You must be exhausted now right? You were supposed to have ran out of missiles and bombs months ago! Russia: This year was easier. We have mastered drone warfare and our volunteer only army has grown to six times the size it was in 2022 while the opposite happened for the illegitimate Ukrainian state. Our forces advance daily and keep losses as low as possible. We're ready to advance the fronts and have streamlined production to supply it, we are mass producing more of what we need at accelerating rates and out produce the entire NATO alliance alone. We also have an enormous battle hardened reserve now. Something not one country in NATO has, nevermind the fact none of you have any war experience at all. NATO, at the start of year 4: (Crawling on stomach) Are you ready to surrender yet Ruzzia?!? *throws the last remaining scraps on the stockpile into Ukraine* Come on...surrender already.
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2024-12-30T06:04:20
>>492768437 That's called projection.
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2024-12-30T06:04:25
>>492768447 >because the west needs a truce as a break, not an end This is really the crux of the matter. Nobody believes that a "ceasefire" is going to be anything more than a regrouping for another war later
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2024-12-30T06:04:59
>>492768561 Ivan's mad
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2024-12-30T06:05:03
>>492765937 then russia should never pull out.
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2024-12-30T06:06:20
>>492768625 russia is a nicer country with more freedoms than ukraine tho.
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2024-12-30T06:06:29
>>492768561 The fact this guy made a video threatening to behead Russian PoW's and then when he was found by Russians they made sure he felt his words with that same sword. Poetic.
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2024-12-30T06:06:32
>>492764515 I thought Trump was going to end this shit bros and Putin was his bitch?! Wth
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2024-12-30T06:06:54
>>492764515 The big dick move would be to park nato in kyiv. You would be surprised by how fast they could find a deal.
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2024-12-30T06:07:12
>>492768639 No, it's called cultural appropriation, ruble-bot. Russia stealing everything it can get their dirty hands on from their neighbors; ideas, customs, identities, music, etc.---then calling it Russian.
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2024-12-30T06:08:08
>>492768744 yeah fucking right kek
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2024-12-30T06:08:19
>>492764515 >legally binding Yeah because puccians really honor them
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2024-12-30T06:08:19
>>492768785 NATO pussies shit skins won't do shit lol
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2024-12-30T06:08:39
>>492768744 Ukraine is still a free country. We can protest Zelenskyy & the war openly on the street. In Russia? You go to jail for 20 years. Nice try.
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2024-12-30T06:08:40
>>492768799 shouldn't you be dieing for a jew somewhere?
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2024-12-30T06:08:49
>>492768645 Imagine engaging in an existential war with your neighbour and not thinking it will end any other way. Russia will lay on Ukraine with all her weight, they will not be saved.
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2024-12-30T06:09:02
>>492768856 Probably cause they can't understand your broken english
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2024-12-30T06:09:55
>>492764515 Trump Lied he said it would be resolved on Day 1, not day 5. Fucking liar, that 7082 lies just since the start of 2024.
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2024-12-30T06:10:35
>>492768909 You are brown and your parents are of different races
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2024-12-30T06:11:16
>>492768895 From 3 days SMO to capture Kyiv to Russia fighting for its own survival :D
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2024-12-30T06:11:37
>>492768578 Year 4 of 3 day military operation All is going to plan
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2024-12-30T06:12:49
>>492768578 Incredibly gay post.
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2024-12-30T06:12:55
>>492768758 There's nothing Trump can do. He'll take power in about a month & realize the situation is what it is. There's nothing he can do. If he defunds Ukraine then he's defacto handing it over on a silver platter to Russia. What benefit? Ukraine becomes occupied Belarus 2.0. Another Russian vassal. What benefit is that to the Trump administration & Europe? That would be a tremendous failure. That's not winning.
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2024-12-30T06:13:17
God I hate Mexicans so much
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2024-12-30T06:14:18
>>492769037 From 10000 dead hohols to 500000 dead piggies. Hopefully the war continues
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2024-12-30T06:15:11
>>492768048 zelenskyy and half of your country is russian. when future archaeologist dig up your bones they're gonna classify you as russian. they'll be like "these bones are russian. but smol for russian" and then they'll just chuck you in the box with all the other russian bones.
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2024-12-30T06:15:18
>>492769006 kek stfu nerd, go shoot your mom for taking away your xbox
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2024-12-30T06:15:19
>>492769037 Sure, but there is no doubt Russia will survive. USA will not assist their little puppets after they exhaust their supply of men. Being an ally of Big Satan is a terminal condition.
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2024-12-30T06:15:31
>>492768447 Faggot Kremlin-Bot
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2024-12-30T06:16:03
>>492765192 The war isn't about territory, it's about keeping Ukraine in Russia's sphere of influence, that means replacing Zelensky and keeping Ukraine out of NATO entirely. If they reach either of those it's a win for them, any territory gained is just a bonus. People are so caught up on clay from looking at the maps they're missing the forest for the trees.
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2024-12-30T06:16:58
>>492764515 >LEGALLY BINDING INVASIONS
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2024-12-30T06:17:07
>>492769289 Assad agrees
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2024-12-30T06:17:14
>>492764515 another red line to be crossed it seems
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2024-12-30T06:17:52
>>492769141 >That's not winning. gotta see it from trump's perspective. he ended the war like he said he would. ukrainians are no longer dying. the world is a peace.
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2024-12-30T06:17:59
>>492768895 Ah yes, the pro-Russian Pajeet. Welcome.
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2024-12-30T06:19:43
>putin is smart guy - real smart guy! >I can make a deal with him! >yuge deal - beeeeeeeutiful deal! >goes to putin >putin tells him to fuck off >well... I offered him a good deal a great deal >presidential drawn down authority what is that? >wow we've got alot of old junk just lying around! >its cheaper to send it to Ukraine then scrap it! >Im saving the taxpayer money! >very stable genius >floods Ukraine with weapons, cash, "advisers" and "volunteers"
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2024-12-30T06:20:25
>>492769037 >>492769060 >21 seconds between posts nafo getting sloppy
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2024-12-30T06:20:28
>>492764515 Russian losses last 24 hours and totals personnel is Russians killed and does not include wounded 29.12.2024 Tanks — 9656 (+5) Armored fighting vehicle — 19981 (+11) Artillery systems — 21450 (+42) MLRS — 1256 Anti-aircraft warfare — 1032 Planes — 369 Helicopters — 329 UAV — 21038 (+25) Cruise missiles — 3003 Ships (boats) — 28 Submarines — 1 Syrias — 1 Trucks and Fuel tankers — 32410 (+82) Special equipment — 3670 (+2) Military personnel — aprx. 785930 people (+1730) >Artillery systems — 21450 (+42) unchanged analysis 83.75% of IISS 'themilitarybalance' estimates of 25609 Russian towed and self propelled artillery and mortars, active and reserve Feb 2022 are destroyed approximately 4159 remain. Tanks 71.5% destroyed , AFV 68.3% destroyed Many remaining Russian guns in depots have had their barrels removed to be used as replacements for worn barrels. Russia's chronic vehicle shortage has a companion chronic artillery shortage, leaving daily increasing areas of reduced artillery in Russian front lines. Russia can only use air power ,or shorten its lines to retain the same of artillery cover. I expect it to try and use air power, the consequence will be increased air combat and looses of Russian air frames and an escalating artillery crisis in the Russian forces ( Instead turned to North Korea). There will be an increased mix of begging threats and other PR stunts by the Kremlin to try and get a ceasefire as they have lost this war(Happened/Happening). Russia will no longer be able to mount any mechanized offensive operations or offensive operation with artillery support (basically all) by spring and Russia will be effectively defenseless against its neighbors if they advance onto Russian territory. Why economic collapse will force Putin to end the war https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxKLaQ1p6os HISTORIC 2025: Russian Economy Collapse by the Numbers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wW3enrV5hV4
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2024-12-30T06:20:43
>>492769060 No one said it was going to be 3 days except for the Americans specifically General Mark Milley and he said only if Kiev was fully encircled and the invasion was full scale and full mobilised. Which is clearly wasn't in the slightest. Even Putin not too long ago(days) said he regrets not invading years ago as he underestimated how large and how prepared the initial Ukrainian force was and how well supplied it was. The Ukrainians however gave a timeline to victory a long time ago, over 10 years ago... it's now Day 3918 of a "48 hour anti terror operation" to clear Donbass of pro Russian rebels.
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2024-12-30T06:21:13
>>492769546 Lmao
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2024-12-30T06:22:46
>>492764515 not really unreasonable to be honest, hopefully RFK jr gets involved with negotiations since he's one of the only us politicians who actually understands the conflict.
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2024-12-30T06:22:50
>>492769138 Truth hurts.
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2024-12-30T06:23:02
>>492764515 >Make Ukraine neutral >no bases, no nato, no EU >ukraine cedes some territory, retains some of the currently occupied territory >Any future incursions into ukraine will be met by full scale military intervention by either side. >agree that both sides should invest into the rebuilding of ukraine >make attempts to turn into a country where west meets east peacefully, cultural exchanges, friendly competition. Would this be accepted or rejected, what would you change? Why am I a neet when I came up with this seemingly reasonable diplomatic solution in the time it took to type it, Shouldn't I be salaried or something?
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2024-12-30T06:23:33
Russia already won the war Why do shills act like they were defeated?
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2024-12-30T06:24:04
>>492769141 he recently said ukrainebux won't stop but NATO countries need to spend 5% of GDP now. He will have some of the benefits of the spinup going on over the past few years to play with. whether he decides to allocate them to Ukraine is the question, or what conditions he seeks to extract for this. personally i think the obvious move is to provide Ukraine with basically anything that realistically won't be used against China, because that is the only other war to really worry about if we stop engaging in stupid adventurism. Ukraine isn't going to restore its de jure territory absent a total Russian collapse which we have to consider unlikely, but, well, it happened twice in the previous century. If NATO wanted to actually dedicate itself to Russian defeat it would simply happen, in the same way that the allies crushed Germany by superior industrial output. It requires sacrifice on the behalf of westerners who've forgotten the lessons of WWII though.
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2024-12-30T06:24:13
>>492769714 Not happening. There won't be peace until Poland's next.
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2024-12-30T06:24:18
>>492769565 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1FbxvnsUeI
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2024-12-30T06:25:26
>>492769546 I wouldn't trust times radio. For every decent interview they have, they post 3 or 4 weirdos shilling lies and cope. Like when they had lichman on during the election shilling his keys and how drumpf is done on more than one occasion.
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2024-12-30T06:25:33
>>492769296 Putin is the only leader in the world who gives a fuck about your little worthless retarded hohol life. And you're not seeing it
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2024-12-30T06:25:44
>>492769695 >RFK Jr One day before the total Ukrainian defeat at Zaporozhye began. It's risen by at least 2x that number since.
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2024-12-30T06:25:52
>>492769794 Whats the issue with the proposal?
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2024-12-30T06:26:35
>>492769714 Ukraine wanted to join NATO specifically because they felt they were under threat of being invaded, which turned out to be entirely justified since they were by the Russians to then specifically keep them from joining NATO. Therefore, should it be in the armistice that they are denied entry from NATO that means Russia meets one of their intended war goals. The other seeing Zelensky being exposed and a pro-Russian puppet installed. That's all they wanted from the outset. They never wanted land.
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2024-12-30T06:28:40
>>492769970 >exposed Deposed* My bad.
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2024-12-30T06:29:52
>>492766620 I will flood Finland with niggers, goat fuckers and street shitters
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2024-12-30T06:29:55
>>492769970 See point 4. Obviously their security has to be ensured, but expecting Russia to just be fine admitting defeat (accepting a condition that was their primary) in a war they're winning is retarded. Concessions must be made, I'm afraid. Seriously, if there are any governments who want a diplomat, call me, I'll work for peanut saaaars
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2024-12-30T06:30:26
>>492769546 >ghost of kiev >snake island nobody trust this propaganda anymore russia has always been the enemy. additional propaganda against russia doesn't work. we don't love russia. we just hate ukraine. they are retarded for starting and continuing this war with russia for no reason at all.
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2024-12-30T06:31:59
>>492769141 actually when ukraine loses nothing would be lost for usa. Ukraine was russian and remained russian. if this continues more american resources would be waste (those are more valuable than ukrainian lives) and more importantly it will continue creating instability all over the world that hurt american interest quite a bit. My bets on the defund he will. But to save his face he will say what he has been saying all this time. LET EUROPEANS PAY FOR THIS. and euros will stop it because they never wanted it. They just tried to please US.
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2024-12-30T06:32:44
>>492766036 another million? they havent een hit a million, but ukraine has on the other hand. maybe rephrase that they will kill a million more ukrainians to acheive their goal
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2024-12-30T06:33:13
>>492770200 IMAGINE believing there are/were no ACES even though Ukraine still has an airforce even though outnumbered over 10-1. There were aces in every war for fucks sake. What is absurd is believing there are no aces.
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2024-12-30T06:34:24
>>492770169 You're missing the point, if they keep Ukraine in Russian influence they won't HAVE to invade it again. They only did it in the first place because Ukraine wanted to westernize.
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2024-12-30T06:34:34
>>492769786 Your framing is roughly accurate but what you all need to understand: IT IS RUSSIA THAT ESCALATES. IT IS RUSSIA THAT IS THE AGGRESSOR. IT IS RUSSIA PUSHING INTO THE WEST'S/UKRAINE'S RED LINES. THEY'RE NOT THE VICTIMS, THEY'RE THE INSTIGATOR.
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2024-12-30T06:36:33
>>492769797 That was in the rebel conflict when they could have done that extremely easily. Also that "speech" is pure cringe and stolen from Churchill. He literally just said 10 days ago that its impossible for Ukraine to win the war militarily now and Russia is not being dislodged by force.
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2024-12-30T06:36:42
>>492769753 False, Ukraine fights a war of independence, day & night.
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2024-12-30T06:37:46
>>492767293 What if Putin is the only sane one in a world of madness?
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2024-12-30T06:38:05
>>492770476 You know I am not even mad. You will be dead in a year or so anyway. Take a deep breath and appreciate it. You have a numbered amount of those.
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2024-12-30T06:38:06
>>492770463 Fair point. I didn't mention leadership. Again, concessions must be made and zelensky would have to go. How you'd figure out who comes next is difficult, maybe place it under temporary of some sort of temporary council made up of representatives of all involved, with the intention first and foremost of rebuilding Ukraine, hopefully finding common ground through cooperation, and the goal of eventually installing an actual neutral government. Realistically whatever government was installed would have to be heavily monitored for a very long time by both sides to ensure no fuckery.
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2024-12-30T06:38:45
>>492770635 I want some stanky hoholina on my dick stat
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2024-12-30T06:39:06
>>492769894 Which is why he is killing us constantly. He's liberating us! Just like when Russia liberated Chechnya & Afghanistan!
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2024-12-30T06:39:18
>>492770719 >maybe place it under temporary of some sort of .....maybe place under temporary rule of a council made up of.......
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2024-12-30T06:40:03
>>492770624 >No one said it was going to be 3 days except for the Americans Just call yourself a faggot retard instead of trying to cope and make excuses >it was cringe!!! faggot little girl
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2024-12-30T06:40:16
>>492765192 >wtf is Russia hoping to get To prevent Khazar criminals from seizing the site of their historic empire.
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2024-12-30T06:40:23
Meanwhile in last 24 hours: >Kurakhovo fell completely after Ukrainians retreat from western power plant. >Velyka Novosilka fully encircled, all main roads physically cut. Small dirt road along the river is open but covered fully by FPV teams. Ukrainian garrison begging their commander to allowed to retreat all over social media. Dnipropetrovsk oblast has a 15 mile undefended gap northwest of this important logistics town. Ukraine is in deep panic. >Russian bridgehead across the Oskil river in Kharkov oblast expands further and Dvorichne has fallen. >Toretsk down to its final neighbourhood and industrial zone >Chasov Yar falling. Russian surprise breakthrough captured the northern suburbs and begins to encircle the citadel industrial area. >Pokrovsk city offensive first phase has begun or is beginning with the entire first line breached and being cleared on day one. Dnipropetrovsk border is directly west of the city. >Forces amassing southeast of Pokrovsk likely going for Myrnograd next to Pokrovsk. Ukraine really shouldn't have backstabbed Russia in April 2022 and actually signed the treaty in Turkey instead, but no they listened to Boris Kemal("Johnson") and his warmongering. The war would have been long over and millions would still be alive and/or healthy.
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2024-12-30T06:40:35
>>492770789 Is this you, anon? Very cute.
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2024-12-30T06:40:46
>>492770758 it is disgusting what they did to their women. but I guess it is a part of westernization agenda
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2024-12-30T06:40:55
>>492770169 >Obviously their security has to be ensured, russia will be responsible for their security. nato and europe are doing a shit job.
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2024-12-30T06:41:04
>>492770719 >>492770463 Maybe even hand zelensky over to russia to sweeten the deal, but I could be letting my personal feelings about der conscription juden sway my judgement, so this isn't essential.
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2024-12-30T06:41:18
>>492770307 De-funding Ukraine is simply a Kremlin benefit. Anybody in Russia or the West talking about cutting off weapons & aid to Ukraine is defacto pro-Russian. (That's you vatnik)
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2024-12-30T06:41:21
>>492770853 You're in total copium. Seek help. My points still stand.
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2024-12-30T06:41:57
>>492764515 >>492769333 >Russia: starts a war to keep Ukraine in its sphere of influence. >NATO: uuuh if you concede us to enter and set DMZs, we stop the war and let Ukraine in NATO, but later. This doesn't really make sense. I mean, why do you want to negotiate about something which is basically what started the war. wtf
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2024-12-30T06:42:03
>>492770789 the war has the lowest civilian deaths of any war that length ever. get real.
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2024-12-30T06:42:25
>>492770915 Ensured by both sides. As I said a transitional government would have to be installed with representatives from both size.
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2024-12-30T06:42:58
>>492764515 Russia won’t get a foot of Ukraine land. In fact they’ll lose territories.
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2024-12-30T06:43:00
>>492770944 Whats your point? That if they send another 2,000,000 men to slaughter they can take another 3 miles of land in 6 years?
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2024-12-30T06:43:29
>>492770789 You did this to him. He was calling hohols brothers and shit whole 2022 despite all your warcrimes and subhuman behavior. Things have changed since then, so is this position on the war. It's still a civil war but there is only one way to end it now - keep killing hohols until their retarded fake nazi kingdome collapses. Because guess what? NATO doesn't care how many of you will die and neither your politicians.
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2024-12-30T06:43:59
Can't you retards keep your delusions in /uhg/?
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2024-12-30T06:44:01
>>492770715 Or maybe... Just maybe... It's Russia that faces a dark future of decolonization & balkanization. Think about it Zigger. Think hard & deep. Buckle your seatbelt.
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2024-12-30T06:44:04
>>492769970 >have peace agreement set to return donestk and lugansk under their control >tear it up and start war yeah i wonder why.
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2024-12-30T06:44:36
>>492770939 you see the world through delusional point of view. it is ok to lie to yourself to feel better. The whole another thing is to tell those lies to people who do not need to believe them. They call your country a blackhole for their resources. And they feel that they can spend those money more wisely. And if Kremlin wins from that so what? so do they. the only people who wanted it are neocons who are not doing great in washington today. USA is not a monoparty system.
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2024-12-30T06:44:36
>>492771036 Your numbers are delusional lmao. Seriously seek help.
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2024-12-30T06:44:48
>>492766552 >nafotranny leaves /ukraine winning simulation general/
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2024-12-30T06:44:52
>>492764515 fuck nato fuck ukraine fuck russia suck my ass
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2024-12-30T06:45:13
>>492771138 just another 6 years and the 3 day operation will be complete.
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2024-12-30T06:45:32
>>492770758 & she wants you. She's waiting for you to ask for her number, Pedro.
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2024-12-30T06:46:28
>>492771195 Ukraine will be lucky if they last one more year. drafting at 18 is bottom of the barrel you retard.
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2024-12-30T06:46:53
>>492771097 that never happened before. And not for the lack of trying. just out of curiosity how many friends, family or people you know who died already? I do not have any who died yet. Just so you know. whatever happens you are already a loser and nothing in this world will change that.
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