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2024-12-30T07:11:12
>>492772759 now ask it which parts of agreement we broke to be able to answer my very simple question. you brought the minsk agreement topic not me.
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2024-12-30T07:11:24
>>492772788 any vote involving a candidate the eu doesn't like is illegal
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2024-12-30T07:11:24
>>492772619 Peace it is.
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2024-12-30T07:12:11
>>492772628 They were literally funded by Russia, provided with pretty much everything they had. Trucks drove there day and night. It was barely a secret back then before it was openly stated, confessed. Same with the "green men" in Crimea.
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2024-12-30T07:12:27
>>492765796 >strengthen NATO >by adding two more dead weight, useless, feminist, Europoor consoomer economies for the US to have to carry Yeah that's really not something to boast about.
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2024-12-30T07:12:42
>>492764907 how worse could it get? Western sanctions didn't do shit and EU outed themselves as being totally dependent on Russia for energy.
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2024-12-30T07:12:47
>>492772788 >Any vote under armed occupation anywhere is an illegal vote. retarded cocksucker confirms all german elections are just shit
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2024-12-30T07:12:49
>>492772844 Use chatgpt & read it you stupid fucking ruble-bot FAGGOT. Man, I fucking hate Russians, I want to kill them all.
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2024-12-30T07:12:58
>>492772364 to be fair, Trump is only talking about withdrawing permission to sell products inside USA, Anne Frankly all Trump is really doing doing even that is leveling playing field to their defacto tariffs and underhanded Market Protection schemes. It is allowed to not do a biz deal, on your sole say so. Butt it does signal great weakness by Trump's Jews his temper tantrum about USD. Its like a once great but long since Has Been rock star, who can still pull a crowd on their name alone, but can't really perform and everyone kinda knows it, but they pretend they are still better than rising stars.
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2024-12-30T07:13:42
>>492772903 imagine selling a gun to a nigger. He goes and shoots somebody. You blame the gun seller for the niggers actions. That's what you are doing. America sold weapons to ukraine that reigned on donetsk. completely okay in your mind.
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2024-12-30T07:13:55
>>492772786 >sergey lavrov the Russian foreign minister is lying, they don't actually want to negotiates. You're absolutely retarded, anon.
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2024-12-30T07:13:57
>>492772787 >there are only 2 aegis ashore systems on earth. it would be easy for putin to take them out with his kickass, unstoppable rockets. >if putin wins in ukraine, he's gonna be more powerful than ever and emboldened to come after the rest of europe. >probably best to make a peace deal with him while you can.
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2024-12-30T07:14:24
>>492772957 but you are Russian lmao. Same fucking language and everything
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2024-12-30T07:14:54
>>492773024 he hasn't appeared at the negotiation table once since last year. But okay anon you keep thinking you'll get a good deal.
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2024-12-30T07:15:16
>>492772790 Russia is fully funding all your radical nationalism. It's totally astroturf'd & inorganic. Just thought I should mention that.
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2024-12-30T07:15:17
>>492772839 People there were used as a cannon fodder in Kremlin's war for resource monopoly.
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2024-12-30T07:15:20
>>492772957 so we did not break any? yes. Because you did. You people are so brave and loud when it comes to emotions but as soon as we start talking facts you try to change topic or distort the argument. and then you say that we are the ones who lie all the time. pathetic.
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2024-12-30T07:15:43
>>492773051 >but you are Russian lmao. Same fucking language and everything did a russian tell you that?
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2024-12-30T07:15:49
>>492766096 >they're terrified Last I checked it was the US shitting and farting desperately trying to shill the idea of a draft because they can't recruit enough capable people to manage peacetime operations without crashing ships into each other. Also last I checked it was US carrier fleets getting absolutely humiliated and driven away from the Canal by the Houthi's.
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2024-12-30T07:16:02
>>492773114 Use chatgpt or a search engine you stupid need ruble-bot idiot!
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2024-12-30T07:16:17
>>492773133 no I have basic pattern recognition, unlike you lmao
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2024-12-30T07:16:35
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2024-12-30T07:16:46
>>492773109 did they whisper softly to go fight the kike in the civilians ears that hated being under him?
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2024-12-30T07:17:06
>>492773142 >Also last I checked it was US carrier fleets getting absolutely humiliated
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2024-12-30T07:17:45
>>492773163 Stop arguing if you won't Google or chatGTP the answer. ZIGGERS are such blatantly DUMB slaves averse to information!!!
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2024-12-30T07:17:57
>>492773218 >que houthi red sea shenanigans that still go on to this day
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2024-12-30T07:18:01
>>492765192 Russia thinks their methods of destabilizing the west with immigration, corona, blm and inflation have weakened us enough and made us ripe for conquest.
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2024-12-30T07:18:18
>>492773163 why don't you post the answer? are you embarrassed or something. I always knew that chat gpt is behind your posts. kek. lmao. it is not even fun. You people are so low iq.
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2024-12-30T07:18:28
>>492773085 Why is he stating that he is open to negotiations? The context is that trump basically said >you leave Ukraine, we stop funding them end of. Obviously this is unacceptable to Russia and retarded offer we could only expect from the king of miggers, hence, I offered a much more reasonable compromise, which gives many concessions to Russia and I believe wouldn't be far from being acceptable to them. again see >>492769714 The only thing Russia has to concede is complete control of Ukraine which theyve stated isn't their goal multiple times anyway.
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2024-12-30T07:18:54
>>492773024 That's how diplomacy works, retard. Even if they don't care about a mutual negotiation, they still have to appear like they're being fair.
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2024-12-30T07:19:15
>>492766550 Unironically yes, the only NATO power left with actual untouched stockpiles of worth is the US, there's a good reason the rest of us are only sending money now, money is all we have left to send. EG: Canada can't even supply it's standing army with kit or boots anymore, Canadian soldiers have had to buy their uniforms and kit from third party retailers since at least Desert Storm.
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2024-12-30T07:19:26
>>492773026 rolling for icbms into london
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2024-12-30T07:19:37
>>492773174 kremlin vermin
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2024-12-30T07:19:39
>>492765392 >One of the points of contention is still NATO Give me a break. That was never a legitimate concern. They obviously understood more countries would join NATO in response to this land grab and did it anyway. Come up with a non-joke of a talking point.
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2024-12-30T07:20:19
>>492766740 They can't afford to, they're too busy laundering and shopping in NYC/Paris with the aid money we give them.
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2024-12-30T07:20:41
>>492773350 Another Russian failure
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2024-12-30T07:20:46
>>492773350 brussels
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2024-12-30T07:20:48
>>492773320 So, you're saying that their goal is the complete and total absorption of Ukraine into Russia? that is the only logical conclusion to what you're saying.
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2024-12-30T07:21:08
>>492772787 >probably best to make a peace deal with him while you can. Ukraine did that in the early 00s, even gave up their nuclear weapons for it. lol
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2024-12-30T07:21:12
>>492773198 No, they came, loaded them into trucks, and threw them into the assault on the fortifications without any training. And they kept them under fire for 8 years prior, like Palestinian terrorists do with the folk there.
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2024-12-30T07:21:42
>>492773298 he isn't. that's the funny. thing there are numerous articles saying they don't bother showing up anymore because they see them as pointless. there hasn't actually been a single Russian diplomat at the table since mid 2023. Zelensky really fucked up by acting like a petulant child at the start because now the enemy doesn't even bother. All of zelensky's negotiations were with fucking nato. Dumbest shit I have ever seen.
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2024-12-30T07:21:59
>>492773350 reroll for every major city in the UK
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2024-12-30T07:22:22
>>492773427 They want to absorb all of Europe into russia. The eternal dream of the asiatic hordes.
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2024-12-30T07:22:55
>>492773502 HSTCSG
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2024-12-30T07:22:57
>>492773362 ukraine is crusial because of some old soviet war factories that can be restored by them Ughmash was the factory that as chuschev said can produce nuclear missiles as sausages. Those countries that were already defacto nato are not a threat. They are nothing but a bunch of villages full of retards.
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2024-12-30T07:22:58
>>492773456 i'm sure you really think that. threw them into a truck with full on gear and vehicles. rained artillery down on their enemy to make it worse for them. awful people.
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2024-12-30T07:23:14
>>492773284 Ok, go play counterstrike now Ruble-bot subhuman
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2024-12-30T07:23:47
>>492773557 fuck. you win today NATO. putin has shown mercy.
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2024-12-30T07:23:59
>>492773563 just so you understand ughmash produced an intercontinental missile every hour. about 12-24 a day.
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2024-12-30T07:24:01
>>492773107 >Russia is fully funding all your radical nationalism. and the ciajews have been funding yours since 1945 so, stop using my electrcity you useless cunt
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2024-12-30T07:24:08
>>492773484 Exactly correct. Hence why part of my solution is to depose zelensky and get him as far away from the negotiating table as possible, even hand him over to Russia, then place the reshaped Ukraine into administrative rule by a council made of representatives from both sides just not fucking zelensky.
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2024-12-30T07:24:52
>>492773557 ?
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2024-12-30T07:24:53
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2024-12-30T07:25:00
>>492773630 zelensky will be deposed most likely by his own people. Russia doesn't care about that as he is an awful leader. Getting rid of him has risk of a better one appearing.
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2024-12-30T07:25:02
>>492773484 Because it's up to NATO to decide the outcome of the war. NATO just wasn't yet ready to fuck Russia up.
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2024-12-30T07:25:43
>>492773683 2 more weeks i bet
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2024-12-30T07:25:45
>>492773579 I can do that. I can go outside and do whatever I want with my friends. You know Christmas and all. enjoy hiding in your home. LMAO your misery will end any year from now. kekaroo
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2024-12-30T07:26:03
>>492773630 fuck off retard you lost now go home and fight like a men, fucking cowardly little pussy
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2024-12-30T07:26:16
>>492773427 The goal is to neutralize Ukraine's capability as a potential staging platform for Western military aggression. That doesn't mean they want Ukraine to be actually "neutral" and give "both sides" say because the globohomo powers will just act in bad faith and gear up for a revenge strike against Russia somewhere down the line. Therefore Russia will do everything in their power to have complete control over Ukraine without the bother of fully absorbing them.
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2024-12-30T07:26:39
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2024-12-30T07:27:26
>>492773680 Ok, now you finally understand my point. What of the compromises I listed would be unpalatable to Russia? Not one person seriously engaged, just made their own head cannon about my beliefs and what they thought I was trying to >muh russia must leave No wonder the world is fucked. Everyone is retarded.
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2024-12-30T07:27:56
Freedumb isn't free
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2024-12-30T07:28:04
>>492773456 >Palestinian terrorists Please face the wall, sir.
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2024-12-30T07:28:10
>>492773717 It will be swiftly should the West decide on it. Like the operation Desert Storm.
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2024-12-30T07:28:26
>>492773530 wtf is this real?
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2024-12-30T07:29:35
>>492773829 They don't need to do them? They can just take what they want. They've gone all in on the war and won't stop. This happens every war they do they start slow but once they get rolling you won't stop them without massive force. There is no unpalatable or palatable as they aren't even eating the meal.
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2024-12-30T07:29:43
>>492773860 I was talking about Hamas, not ordinary Palestinians, though they are raised with hate and get radicalized.
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2024-12-30T07:30:19
>>492773737 You're a retarded, anon. I've tried to engage you in mutual discussion but you can't seem to muster up more than >we won, you lost even though I've expressed support for no side and remained impartial, you dumb fuck, literal cannon fodder. >>492773755 see >>492769714 This is my proposed diplomatic solution, I later added depose Zelensky and place ukraine under joint admin rule. Which do you think Russia would reject?
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2024-12-30T07:30:39
>>492773530 Why would Putin even bother? Do you think he wants to absorb a bunch of atheist brown faggots with no resources?
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2024-12-30T07:30:45
>>492773865 you'd think you as a russian citizen would even know your countries capabilities.
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2024-12-30T07:32:35
>>492773673 everytime i watch this, i expect the guy with the legs to trip over, toppling the guy out of the wheelchair.
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2024-12-30T07:32:47
>>492773951 They have repeatedly said they want to negotiate and that they don't want to control Ukraine, they obviously want peace because war is costly. Why don't you tell me what it is they actually want? The list I put satisfies all of their stated goals and more, while Ukraine retains some level of sovereignty.
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2024-12-30T07:32:58
>>492766485 >>492767411 >MI6 bong cannot even answer the most basic fact that poland was going to drag them into a war anyways
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2024-12-30T07:33:06
>>492773995 > joint admin rule Doubt this could ever work. Better yet, the UK or the US should make Ukraine their overseas territory, I bet Ukrainians will be absolutely happy about that.
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2024-12-30T07:34:18
>>492774133 I don't care what you claim they said. They aren't at the table. You are giving your food to nobody. They don't care. Ukraine has shown its on the brink of destruction and the media has helped by showing its lacking people. they aren't negotiating anymore.
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2024-12-30T07:35:17
>>492774152 When I mentioned that, I mentioned the goal of the admin should be rebuilding ukraine first and trying to find understanding through mutual cooperation, reducing the chances of conflict in the future, It'd be on both sides to choose the people they believe best suited to this, the ultimate goal being eventually finding a way to install an ACTUAL neutral government in Ukraine that would have to be heavily monitored by both sides for a very long time.
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2024-12-30T07:35:39
>>492774020 It's a tiny fraction of the Soviet might and human capital. And the USSR was at most #2 after the US.
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2024-12-30T07:35:43
>>492773958 Yet you're ok with Ukrainian terrorists who are much worse. Very convincing disclaimer. >>492773995 >Which do you think Russia would reject? I think Russia is done trying to find a middle ground with Ukraine since they tried for years and got nowhere fast, so none of those would really apply.
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2024-12-30T07:37:01
>>492774213 Read the OP, you fuckin spaz. Sergey Lavrov wants negotiations that recognise Russia' strength at the negotiating table. What makes you think they want to completely annex Ukraine?
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2024-12-30T07:37:08
>>492774298 >doesnt even know what the dead hand system is mk
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2024-12-30T07:38:14
>>492774302 >I think Russia is done trying to find a middle ground with Ukraine Read the OP. You're literally just making your own schizo headcannon like every other anon. I'm going of what actual Russian diplomats are saying.
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2024-12-30T07:38:32
>>492774367 he's not at the table anon. stop acting like he is. he hasn't been there in over a year and a half and yet you act like he's there waiting daily. Either show that he has once shown up to try or you need to understand its not an option. There is no evidence to support your claim that it is.
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2024-12-30T07:39:44
>>492774133 >Ukraine retains some level of sovereignty. That's the problem: Ukraine will use whatever sliver of sovereignty remaining to be a thorn in Russia's side at the behest of the satanic West. At this point, I think THD is the only solution.
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2024-12-30T07:39:57
>>492774302 What "Ukrainian terrorists" are you talking about? The "separatists" pumped up by Kremlin? The worst Ukraine did before the Kremlin's war for resource monopoly started is accidentally shot down a passenger plane over Crimea in early 2000s.
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2024-12-30T07:41:39
>>492774441 How dense are you retards. I will try once more, IF I SENT THIS PROPOSAL TO SERGEY HIMSELF SEE: >>492769714 What wouldn't he accept? CONSIDER EVERY OTHER PROPOSAL FROM THE WEST HAS BEEN >LEAVE AND WE STOP SENDING WEAPONS WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY AND UNDERSTANDABLY UNACCEPTABLE FOR RUSSIA
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2024-12-30T07:41:58
>>492774376 Rusty and dusty, with capable people behind it in graves or near that. No proof it was ever active in the first place.
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2024-12-30T07:42:41
>>492774133 >they obviously want peace because war is costly. my god you are an idiot
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2024-12-30T07:43:04
>>492774511 SEE >>492774266 ADMINSTRATIVE COUNCIL WHERE EVERYONE IS REPRESENTED UNTIL AN ACTUAL NEUTRAL GOVERMENT CAN BE INSTALLED DOWN THE LINE. WHY ARE YOU ALL SO DENSE FUCCKK
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2024-12-30T07:44:08
>>492774717 aaaaaaaaaaand meltdown, commence how old are you fucking 12 or something ?
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2024-12-30T07:44:33
>>492774689 As I said, you're literally cannon fodder, the most dense of a dense bunch.
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2024-12-30T07:45:44
>>492774521 >What "Ukrainian terrorists" are you talking about? jewish funded neo-Nazis who like to target Russian citizens and commit a bevy of war crimes that have been widely documented. Putin has been a gentleman and a scholar this entire conflict, meanwhile the very government of Ukraine has been spending years advocating nuclear apocalypse to appease their jewish doomsday theology. At this point, it's harder to figure out which Ukrainians aren't terrorists.
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2024-12-30T07:45:55
>>492774773 I'm sat offering actual actionable solutions to people not quite as retarded as you who need me to reiterate the same point 5 times before it clicks and then you come along and go >muh we won, you lost even though I've been impartial the whole time. Absolutely astonishing how fucking stupid people are.
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2024-12-30T07:47:31
>>492774717 Lay off the pish, windbag. How many times do I have to tell you a neutral government in Ukraine isn't possible? They'll either hate Russians or be forced to love them. You can't be neutral on a moving train.
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2024-12-30T07:48:54
>>492774635. You'd get no response. Big surprise. He doesn't care.
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2024-12-30T07:50:23
>>492774866 >I've been impartial the whole time. uhh no you are not you are alsoblind an idiot a shill a hohol loving cocksucker
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2024-12-30T07:50:31
>>492774945 For thje Nth time, anon. this is why you install an administrative council where both sides are represented while you rebuild the country and diplomatic times, this would take years, as I said, eventually you install a 'neutral' goverment, as I said, that would have to be heavily monitored by both sides, as I said, for a very long time, as I said, to avoid any interference by either. Jesus
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2024-12-30T07:51:37
>>492773673 Be me Ukrainian prosthetic soldier, funded by the global cabal Helping bro in a wheelchair because apparently, NATO forgot to deliver extra legs this month But hey, look at us. Prosthetic Chad and wheelchair bro holding it together for the photo op Western media: “sO bRaVe” This is what peak morale looks like Cope and seethe, vatniks. Deal with it.
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2024-12-30T07:51:39
>>492767982 >MIC produces one gay 20 million dollar drone >Russia puts out 40 drones for the price of one American screw in that $20m drone >MIC drones produced by DEI sweatshop pooinloos so they don't even work anymore anyway. >all the foreign slop DEI workers are leaking and stealing anything they can get their hands on >MIC and government keep pushing our own out of the way to make room for more spies and dogfuckers lol. LMAO even. American glownigger copes are getting almost as Pathetic as Indian copes.
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2024-12-30T07:53:04
>>492775086 >offer a list of concessions ukraine (and the west) should make >you love hohols As I said, anon, you're literal cannon fodder, dumb as a bag of rocks, incapable of understanding any nuance. I mean you're a fucking serb, you were never known for your intelligence or skills in diplomacy, Infact you are known for being good cannon fodder. kek
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