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2024-12-30T06:47:38
>>492770476 Holy shit, quit wining ya Hyrkanian jew. Just admit you fucked up and chose a bad fight instead of flying into womanly hysterics.
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2024-12-30T06:47:55
Damn. Can you even believe a nation this bullied exists? Every time they are just FORCED into a war where they kill millions of people and gain LAND. Poor fuckers. They even have to make alliances just to hide from this victim of a country. We should give them Finland and Poland and the Baltics out of pity.
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2024-12-30T06:47:56
>>492768398 Yet support for Ukraine is still far higher than not supporting Ukraine. Your lies won't change that kiddo.
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2024-12-30T06:48:10
>>492770476 no shit, it's obvious that Ukraine was just too late on the pile into NATO train, both because Germany/France thought it would be too antagonistic to add Ukraine (in the delusion that they could avoid conflict with Russia, once it was a marginally functional state again) and because Ukrainian public opinion was legitimately split on this matter up until 2013. Even after that, gradually opinion crept back into that same "MUH BOTH SIDES" space where russophone ukrainians thought that it was best to try to navigate neutrality. Meanwhile the rest of Russkiy Mir except Belarus and Moldova was shitting themselves after Chechnya and doing whatever they could to get in. Now those people in the East who thought Ukraine should be with Russia are mostly dead, refugees or deported to Siberia. I remember the particularly callous attitude Russians had towards the conscripts from Donetsk and claiming that the war was "just Ukrainians killing Ukrainians." Until Donetsk was annexed, and suddenly I never heard that one again.
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2024-12-30T06:48:19
>>492771275 They don't have any men.
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2024-12-30T06:48:32
>>492771136 You're like 15. Fuck off
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2024-12-30T06:48:41
>>492771217 Muy bien amigo! Mi habla mucho dinero for Ukraine! First chick I ever got hard for in middle school was some Ukie
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2024-12-30T06:48:46
>>492768398 >nudges that public sentiment closer to TKD. Yet you just elected the biggest Jew lover ever.........
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2024-12-30T06:48:53
I'm so wasted, bros. big mind stuck in a neets body, bit depressing ngl.
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2024-12-30T06:49:03
>>492769714 youre retarded
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2024-12-30T06:49:06
>>492771381 the coming in regime for America already said support is set to dry up. Germany cut support 50%. Poland said no more free shit. Get real. you have nothing left to give.
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2024-12-30T06:49:37
>>492764515 Trump has already backtracked those previous statements about ending the war and will probably sign bills to give Ukraine more money. I doubt it will escalate but for some reason Trump is so stupid he does exactly as he's told, making this war his problem as well now.
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2024-12-30T06:50:07
>>492764515 >1pbtid Are you back in the USSA?
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2024-12-30T06:50:26
>>492771414 yes truth is hard. It hurts. but hiding from it wont help you in the long run.
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2024-12-30T06:50:32
>>492771444 Checked. What's wrong with the proposal? Add placing Ukraine under admin rule by a council made of representatives of both sides.
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2024-12-30T06:50:37
>>492771306 You've been taken for a ride, anon...
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2024-12-30T06:51:21
>>492765937 >Ukraine will never be neutral anymore Ok, then the Ukrainian state simply needs to be totally dismantled if its not going to accept neutrality.
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2024-12-30T06:51:44
>>492766219 Based Finn vs Kike lover.
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2024-12-30T06:52:07
>>492771275 They were lucky to last a couple days, and now its several years later. Russian incompetence wont end in a year. The money and weapons havent dried up yet. Millions of men takes a long time to widdle down. Years of this shit left.
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2024-12-30T06:52:15
>>492767828 >he's blackmailing us with the territory we seized little brothers amirite
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2024-12-30T06:52:17
>>492771530 why do that? Russia could just bleed them dry and take it all. The problem with you idiots is you think Russia needs to stop. All of the "negotiations" zelensky talks about aren't even with Russia in the room. Wikerdest shit I have ever seen. You won't make a peace agreement because the other side isn't even in the room. You need to understand that.
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2024-12-30T06:52:27
>>492767781 This is not a bad thing. Russia is trying not to escalate things, even though the west supports escalation. For example, when Ukraine attacked and killed people using drones within Russia. It accomplished nothing other than the death of civilians. Russia didn't respond and instead kept the fight on the battlefield where they are winning.
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2024-12-30T06:53:04
>>492771523 I didn't even read it, you're 15. Quit warmongering for other people's land you dumb brat.
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2024-12-30T06:53:06
>>492771576 It'll never be neutral because Ukraine is globohomo organized crime cancer.
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2024-12-30T06:53:18
>>492771615 okay anon. you should go join then as pretty much all foreigners have stopped appearing. good sign i bet. imagine thinking zoomers will save ukraine. rofl.
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2024-12-30T06:54:08
>>492771530 >>492770875 >>Kurakhovo fell completely after Ukrainians retreat from western power plant. >>Velyka Novosilka fully encircled, all main roads physically cut. Small dirt road along the river is open but covered fully by FPV teams. Ukrainian garrison begging their commander to allowed to retreat all over social media. Dnipropetrovsk oblast has a 15 mile undefended gap northwest of this important logistics town. Ukraine is in deep panic. >>Russian bridgehead across the Oskil river in Kharkov oblast expands further and Dvorichne has fallen. >>Toretsk down to its final neighbourhood and industrial zone >>Chasov Yar falling. Russian surprise breakthrough captured the northern suburbs and begins to encircle the citadel industrial area. >>Pokrovsk city offensive first phase has begun or is beginning with the entire first line breached and being cleared on day one. Dnipropetrovsk border is directly west of the city. >>Forces amassing southeast of Pokrovsk likely going for Myrnograd next to Pokrovsk. trying rewriting your idea from the view of you lost.
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2024-12-30T06:54:45
>>492771640 Ukraine also assassinated Russian general in Moscow with explosives in electric scooter left next to the general's house :D Can you guess how Russia reacted to enemy killing their general in their capitol?
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2024-12-30T06:55:03
>>492771633 See >>492769714 which one of these would be unpalatable to Russia? They've repeatedly said they want negotiations and this makes many concessions and recognises their strength at the bargaining table.
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2024-12-30T06:55:20
Russians are not humans. They are slave creatures. And unlike humans Russians have no soul.
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2024-12-30T06:55:25
>>492768398 Make it True. Frank Sinatara or whatever the fuck Jew who raped a girl and got lyched.
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2024-12-30T06:55:27
>>492771699 Imagine thinking this war will suddenly end and end in Russian victory after years of watching Russia barely able to do a single fucking thing.
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2024-12-30T06:55:50
>>492771760 The reality is there was no retreat the road leaving Kurakhovo is fully under Russian fire control. These people wait until Russian artillery and drones swarm them before leaving and think they retreat.
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2024-12-30T06:55:53
>>492771805 >>492771640 Russia cried it was terrorism and how in war you are not allowed to kill enemy general! :DDDD
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2024-12-30T06:56:01
>>492771633 Not only that, Russia is winning the war and doesn't need to negotiate on anyone's terms but their own. The west likes to do this thing where they pretend every fight ends with them winning even when it's obvious they have lost. They did this in Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam and pretty much every war after WWII.
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2024-12-30T06:56:14
>>492771482 Trump doesn't care about Ukraine, that's a Democrat issue. He wants to pivot to the middle east and focus all of his resources on israel. The recent collapse of the Syrian government is a sign of what's to come and Trump owes the zionists a big favor for all of the money they gave him this election.
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2024-12-30T06:56:19
>>492771675 that is our land and it always has been ours. just because you said 30 years ago that you own it now does not make it yours. you are just a pest that needs to be dealt with. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31T_MoqlNRI
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2024-12-30T06:56:26
>>492771817 >which one of these would be unpalatable to Russia? all of it
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2024-12-30T06:56:46
smdh
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2024-12-30T06:56:55
>>492764515 I'm pro-Putin, butt WTF do these Russians think they are telling other nations who they can make Treaties with, just because Russia has nukes they got from prior USSR regime? That being said, Russia could offer to anchor barge with missiles and Dooms Day "dirty bombs" off all USA big coastal cities, and staff with suicidal depressed Russian drunkards, straight out of epic Russian novel, who weekly threaten to "just end it all" and need to be talked down on live podcast, just for the lutz.
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2024-12-30T06:56:59
>>492769714 Or, Russia could just fuck off back into their own country.
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2024-12-30T06:57:03
>>492771817 they dont need a neutral. theres your problem. they will just take control of it. why settle for a neutral? they have no reason to?
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2024-12-30T06:57:34
>>492771675 >>492771523 both you fags should quit yapping and go to the trenches totalen krieg nao >might actually happen to the ukrainian shill considering what happened to deepstate tho
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2024-12-30T06:57:51
>>492771677 >globohomo 10+ year old dead/debunked term >organized crime Russia >cancer Russia
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2024-12-30T06:58:08
>>492771869 >These people no but that cheeseheaded dumbfuck syrsky is the best general the russians could have gonna be hero of russi after the war kek
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2024-12-30T06:58:21
>>492771915 Based Serb
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2024-12-30T06:58:34
>>492771844 yet the draft age is now at the bottom nobody is flocking to the country and the support is thinking they made a bad investment. But you anon you know the truth a few more days and ukraine will win. lmao.
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2024-12-30T06:58:45
>>492764515 >rt.com
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2024-12-30T06:58:53
>>492771760 I've clearly been stating that the war is lost and Ukraine needs to make concessions. Russia has repeatedly said they're open to negotiations and have not called for outright surrender and capitulation, so again, from the list of compromises I listed, which ones would be unpalatable for Russia? or are you saying that they're lying and just want full capitulation? I'm unironically trying to figure out how the war could come to an end with all sides being satisfied.
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2024-12-30T06:59:16
Please cheer for Russia when they ask for Alaska back. Putin already said the original deal is invalid. Let him win in Oinkraine and take the rest of Europe. It's a democrat issue anyways, not yours.
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2024-12-30T06:59:22
>>492771836 /thread
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2024-12-30T06:59:39
>>492771035 soon...
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2024-12-30T06:59:56
>>492772065 I never said a few more days and they will win, dont try to twist my words like the little faggot you are.
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2024-12-30T07:00:25
>>492772115 you are genetically identical genius. They have a higher IQ than you actually. you are closer to niggers.
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2024-12-30T07:00:28
>>492771956 >their own country. you should do the same, illegal refuge, go home and fight you coward.
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2024-12-30T07:00:46
>>492771956 Eastern Ukraine and Crimea voted on it. They didn't like being ruled by coup thugs. Don't you believe in democracy?
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2024-12-30T07:00:54
>>492769970 nice revisionism, anon ukrainians specifically elected a presidente who wanted neutrality but the US just HAD to start a color revolution that kicked off an entire fucking civil war
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2024-12-30T07:00:58
>>492767982 >Sure thing, bud. We’ll just keep subsidizing our arms industry and Russians will continue to die. lol lmfao even
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2024-12-30T07:01:18
>>492771915 Then what are we looking at? full capitulation, despite russia saying they're to negotiate? makes zero sense. >>492771966 what's neutral? they gain land (unintended goal achieved), Ukraine is neutral (intended goal achieved), zelensky is deposed (intended goal achieved).
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2024-12-30T07:01:37
>>492772017 ты дyмaeшь вoйнa нe дoйдeт и дo киeвa? вы мoжeтe нaчaть кoпaть ceбe мoгилы тaм. кoгдa ocтaнoвят мeтpo и выключaт cвeт, кoгдa бyдeтe дoхнyть coтнями в oдин мoмeнт. Cкoлькo этoй пecнe yжe? лeт 10. A вeдь cбывaeтcя. C нoвым гoдoм кopм для вopoн. Cкopo вcтpeтимcя.
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2024-12-30T07:02:04
>>492772017
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2024-12-30T07:02:08
>>492765192 an absolute fucking loser has nothing to offer, you dumb nafo troon it's way past time for you to accept reality (ukraine lost, you are a man)
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2024-12-30T07:02:31
>>492771907 After the USSR the new state of Russia officially recognizes & ratified UKRAINE'S 1991 borders, including Crimea. Now they've violated that, clearly & without justification. Russia always lies, breaks treaties, steals, etc. Only thing Russia understands is force.
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2024-12-30T07:03:15
>>492771482 $500bn hasn't helped at all and Ukraine hasn't won a victory for over two years now. It's all money laundering.
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2024-12-30T07:03:19
>>492771402 this. there is no country left to save.
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2024-12-30T07:03:37
>>492771949 Who does the U.S. think they are telling Russia, Iran, China, South Africa, Egypt, UAE, Ethiopia, Brazil and other countries they cannot have BRICS? I thought the U.S. was for capitalism and yet they want to sanction every nation who doesn't go along with their plans.
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2024-12-30T07:03:38
>>492772269 Russian losses last 24 hours and totals personnel is Russians killed and does not include wounded 29.12.2024 Tanks — 9656 (+5) Armored fighting vehicle — 19981 (+11) Artillery systems — 21450 (+42) MLRS — 1256 Anti-aircraft warfare — 1032 Planes — 369 Helicopters — 329 UAV — 21038 (+25) Cruise missiles — 3003 Ships (boats) — 28 Submarines — 1 Syrias — 1 Trucks and Fuel tankers — 32410 (+82) Special equipment — 3670 (+2) Military personnel — aprx. 785930 people (+1730) >Artillery systems — 21450 (+42) unchanged analysis 83.75% of IISS 'themilitarybalance' estimates of 25609 Russian towed and self propelled artillery and mortars, active and reserve Feb 2022 are destroyed approximately 4159 remain. Tanks 71.5% destroyed , AFV 68.3% destroyed Many remaining Russian guns in depots have had their barrels removed to be used as replacements for worn barrels. Russia's chronic vehicle shortage has a companion chronic artillery shortage, leaving daily increasing areas of reduced artillery in Russian front lines. Russia can only use air power ,or shorten its lines to retain the same of artillery cover. I expect it to try and use air power, the consequence will be increased air combat and looses of Russian air frames and an escalating artillery crisis in the Russian forces ( Instead turned to North Korea). There will be an increased mix of begging threats and other PR stunts by the Kremlin to try and get a ceasefire as they have lost this war(Happened/Happening). Russia will no longer be able to mount any mechanized offensive operations or offensive operation with artillery support (basically all) by spring and Russia will be effectively defenseless against its neighbors if they advance onto Russian territory. Why economic collapse will force Putin to end the war https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxKLaQ1p6os HISTORIC 2025: Russian Economy Collapse by the Numbers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wW3enrV5hV4
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2024-12-30T07:03:40
>>492764515 >>492765392 Only joining NATO can guarantee Ukraine security against another attack from Russia. Without it any treaty is just a short break for Kremlin to bulk up. >>492765192 Putin and Co, not Russia. Putin would like to keep it as it is if he can't force Ukraine's capitulation. They in Kremlin are doing fine, having suppressed all internal opposition.
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2024-12-30T07:03:48
>>492772224 So this whole war was neutral deciding it didn't feel like being neutral. Why do such a stupid risk? I dont know why you think they would ever agree to it as there is no reason. They aren't even going to the table anymore. Zelensky had his options given to him and each time he refused russia said the next one will be worse. He already agreed to give all the land they lost in the war for peace, which is honestly an awful sign to send to your enemy,. so here we are anon. There is no negotiation you need to understand that they don't even appear at the table anymore.
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2024-12-30T07:03:48
>>492772263 >>492772017
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2024-12-30T07:04:10
>>492772224 happy to negotiate*
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2024-12-30T07:04:18
>>492772294 >Russia always lies, breaks treaties, steals, etc That's called projection. Who broke the Minsk Agreement?
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2024-12-30T07:04:26
>>492772294 you have violated many many things yourself. mainly the thing that gave you right on that land. It is yours for as long as russian people living there are agree with that. They are not and it is not yours any more. Simple as. This is the beauty of Putin's argument. You got your freedom in the very same way when soviet union collapsed.
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2024-12-30T07:04:56
>>492768965 He’s not the president yet, retard
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2024-12-30T07:06:03
>>492772410 The "separatists" (on Kremlin's payroll).
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2024-12-30T07:06:04
>>492772365 oddest shit never seen so many losses when the enemy is retreating non stop. verified 100% correct? Russia has apparently lost 275% of its tanks.Woah.
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2024-12-30T07:06:21
>>492772224 >russia saying they're to negotiate? your mistake is thinking the russians are actually ready to stop fighting; they arent there is other stuff to negotiate in europe that has nothing to do with the hohols frozen assets sanctions agreements on missiles in poland / romania no nafo bases in post 1997 nafo countries missile treaties selling Nordstream to the USA !!!!! what an idea lol see, all of that is hohol free
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2024-12-30T07:06:32
>>492772365 even NATOs bots are retarded
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2024-12-30T07:06:43
>>492771949 or more realistically, just anchor Dooms Day barge off Israeli coast, then tell all NATO ZOG, "please feel free to make Your Own (lol) decisions on this matter". Do that such that timing of events makes it clear who runs the show. Let NATO ZOG stooges all trip over themselves "going on the record" first, then let everyone see their leashes being yanked by an invisible rat-like hand.
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2024-12-30T07:07:11
>>492772532 You no longer see tanks on the battlfield. It's civilian vehicles now.
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2024-12-30T07:07:13
>>492772224 >zelensky is deposed no one gives a fuck about that jew puppet and yes it will be unconditional surrender, it has to be that way.
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2024-12-30T07:07:13
>>492772410 Russia broke all treaties thus far including Minsk. That information is literally one Google search away.
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2024-12-30T07:07:24
>>492771901 Jews are trying to pivot themselves as the leaders of the middle east and they are tiny country with a few million people. Meanwhile they want to take on Iran, a much larger country with a culture that goes back 6,000 years, and has over 100,000,000 people. Then there's Turkey who has probably the strongest military in the region who has to deal with the mess that was created by Jews and the U.S. backed Taliban within Syria. There is no peaceful solution for these countries other than the absolute destruction of Israel.
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2024-12-30T07:07:34
>>492772528 i bet you think liberals and conservatives are on his payroll too. sometimes your country isn't happy anon.
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2024-12-30T07:07:50
>>492772605 which one. List them please.
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2024-12-30T07:08:15
>>492764907 >T.Shit talker living in the last ghasp of a dying empite stuffed to the brim with niggers and spics.
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2024-12-30T07:08:18
>>492772602 odd i saw several in Kurakhovo. very odd.
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2024-12-30T07:08:27
>>492772294 projection of what 56% nigger loving murrifats do.
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2024-12-30T07:08:32
>>492772422
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2024-12-30T07:08:39
>>492772130 Actually possible because of what China is up to. Trump mentioned buying Greenland because he's seeing the projections. It's about control of the Arctic trade routes. Making it an EEZ means the US beats Canada to exclusive trade rights and that means it gets a lions share of control as the ice melts and stops Russia making moves towards north Canada as it can sail "over the top" of the world into Hudson bay when the ice is gone. Militarily this leaves the entire Canadian northern coast at risk of Chinese-Russian invasion aswell as no one lives there with extremely low population density. China is making expansionist moves towards the Aleutian islands in south Alaska while Russia is making more noise about reclaiming Alaska, something that will be pivotal in semi related events in the near future but not relevant to this very topic. pic related, if you have a semi strategic mind, you can see the big advantages and vulnerabilities to this area for the one that dominates it and lives within it respectively. Russia has already reestablished its Arctic naval and airbases over the last 6 or so years and expanded them further and the US even classifies one of them(Nagurskoye) as a direct threat to its Thule space base in Greenland that acts as its main early warning alert system for missile attack on the US. Google those names for more context and I advise checking maps at just how close they are when you realise how vital the "top of the world" is. Trump is being smart, he's seen all the projections(literally) and all the classified reports and knows where its all heading. Trump is being very protective and long sighted unlike the optics focused cucks of the world who are always decades behind the reality and their status quo loving mindsets which catches them off guard when events happen. People laugh about it, but it does make sense. For a fun bit of info the ethnic Russian population in Alaska is growing as is Orthodox Christianity.
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2024-12-30T07:08:42
>>492772376 The reason is that they stop losing copious amounts of men and resources in Ukraine, and gain all of their initial stated goals, plus gain land. As I said, zelensky would have to be deposed. I'm not sure what you're getting at, you write a lot but say nothing. look at OP ffs.'We have always been and remain ready for negotiations' sergey lavrov himself. are you saying he's actually just lying? This is why I jokingly said about working as a diplomate before. I'm not a 'side taker' like most, just enjoy pondering and understanding
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2024-12-30T07:08:51
>>492768578 After three years of fighting, russia still can't even take donbass, even after losing 700k soldiers. Wow.
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2024-12-30T07:09:20
>>492772605 The Minsk agreements were broken by NATO a long time ago when they moved past Germany. It's a simple google search away, bro.
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2024-12-30T07:09:33
>>492764907 Why are troons so invested in Ukraine?
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2024-12-30T07:09:38
>>492772179 Shut up you little irrelevant wanker.
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2024-12-30T07:09:49
>>492772648 Fucking hate Russians...
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2024-12-30T07:10:18
>>492772705 anon again. you act as if the other side even cares what you offer. They aren't negotiating anymore. That window is closed. They don't care.
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2024-12-30T07:10:18
there are only 2 aegis ashore systems on earth. it would be easy for putin to take them out with his kickass, unstoppable rockets. if putin wins in ukraine, he's gonna be more powerful than ever and emboldened to come after the rest of europe. probably best to make a peace deal with him while you can.
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2024-12-30T07:10:18
>>492772192 Any vote under armed occupation anywhere is an illegal vote.
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2024-12-30T07:10:20
>>492772703 >Militarily this leaves the entire Canadian northern coast at risk of Chinese-Russian invasion thats so retarded its actually funny
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2024-12-30T07:11:03
>>492772712 You mean that area of Ukraine that voted to be part of Russia so the Ukrainians killed 10's of thousands of them? That Donbass region?
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