Split (1)

train · 591k rows

url stringlengths 8 1.6k	permalink stringlengths 26 77	comments listlengths 3 26.2k	num_comments int64 0 26.8k	subreddit stringclasses 2 values	title stringlengths 1 315 ⌀
https://youtu.be/Y0sTU79Iv-k	/r/videos/comments/qomdi2/oasis_halt_show_due_to_huge_crowd_surge_which/	[ "I was at this show and the surge was fucking scary. I was literally picked up off my feet and moved forward 10-15ft. Here's a video of the surge: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aue6OD17NPo", "Good example, since the Gallagher's are.. dicks. But their dickishness has a definite limit.", "Jesus! It was literally a wave.", "They are dicks, but they’re not monsters like those that would watch the dead/injured being carried away and insist on continuing to “rage” rather than calming down to create a safe exit.", "The Crowd Surge Karma Train is the biggest I've seen in a while.", "All of these responsible venue/act examples show it was clearly deadly negligence the other day and I hope the families of the harmed and deceased have an easy path to restitution. I used to work in concert production and it really isn’t that hard to do something like this where you stop the show for safety.", "If I got to a show I want a seat. I don't want to sit down but I want some type of barrier between me and people behind me.", "They're dicks because they're arrogant, rude and unfriendly. Negligently causing deaths goes beyond just being a dick.", "Happened at Earls Court too. Cunts thinking it was funny. I'll never forget the look of sheer terror on the face of the girl next to me", "Nah, I'd prefer to be standing. Jumping with the crowd is crazy fun but I have left shows early from crowds being too rowdy. Knife party comes to mind.", "I want to sit down. God that’s be great. Nobody elbowing me in the ribs, scraping my shins, stomping my toes, checking every 5 minutes to see if my wallet and keys are still in my pocket. Just sit down in a nice comfy seat with a drink and a tray of nachos watching my favorite bands…", "you can even see the wave bounce off the front barrier echo back through the crowd.", "[Will Ferrell as Mugatu] *Footage of crowds being properly maintained... so hot right now.", "I was at a Green Day gig once, many years ago, maybe 70,000 in the crowd. We were stood quite near the back. At the start of the first song a 15m gap opened up all across the ground in front of us as the crowd surged forward. They played three songs in a row without a break and then paused for breath.\n\nWhen they paused the crowd came flooding back, people literally just being carried standing vertically like a wave. We got smashed in the face and ended up about 15m further back from where we started.\n\nI'm a big guy and I've done my fair share of time right at the front, but this was the clearest example of the power of a crowd that I've ever seen (or felt). It's not to be underestimated.", "A Sea of People and the physics is the same. Unreal!", "Travis Scott is a POS. He literally saw a lifeless body being carried away only feet in front of him and continued to sing his stupid fucking song. To think the same people who idolize this guy are seen as mere trash in his eyes not even worthy of a time out. Celebrity worship is fucking pathetic\n\nEdit: [Video of the lifeless body being carried away](https://www.instagram.com/p/CV7wR38jIJY/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link)", "that's probably too many people for that venue. I hate being in crowds like this because one person panicking or shoving can easily spread into a full blown stampede. I'm a reserved seating kind of jabroni these days lol or i'll just stay home thanks.", "we're having an extremely reddit moment over this, they even dug up videos of eminem and linkin park handling it \"correctly\"", "I saw Matthew Good stop a show to tell everyone to cool it when a girl was being pressed into a security rope at the front of the stage. Then when nothing changed he pulled her on stage. Then when other people were getting squished he walk off the stage and ended the show mid song.", "Astroworld seems to show what happens when industry standards on safety and security are not upheld, or not up to snuff in the first place for all I know. Those in charge, and those who made the call to keep going after there were issues should be held accountable.", "We were there too, but we'd learned our lesson and were next to the tower in the middle. We'd been at the front for an earlier gig of theirs at the cricket club in Trafford and that got fucking crazy during Richard Ashcroft, even before Oasis came on. It was a similar thing but side to side, and you were kind of glad you were squashed together as at least you weren't falling on the floor.\n\nWe ended up moving back about a quarter of the way and as we did, we saw footy hooligan types with their arms stretched out who were causing it — it almost looked organised. There'd been some tiny Italian girl alone with a gigantic backpack stood in front of us during the support acts who just disappeared among it all. I wonder what happened to her.", "I prefer listening to music on Spotify solo. Fuck crowds", "I’m not sure you could pay me to be in the middle of that crowd. Fuck that. I don’t do well in spaces where I don’t have control over where I can move", "Say what you want about scene and emo kids but I remember seeing punkrock bands stop playing and tell aggressors to leave or when someone would eat shit in a mosh pit you'd have several of the \"bro\" types jump in and help people up and even offer them water.\n\nEdit: it's wonderful seeing everyone having the same experience.", "I was at a Weezer concert in 08 with maybe a few thousand people on the floor. That helpless feeling of being moved forward and backward by a wave of people is something I'll never forget. I threw up blood after the concert from the exhaustion. I was in my early 20s and I vowed never to watch a show from the floor again and haven't since. Gnarly show.", "Oasis is a class act this gang banging pos culture we have here needs to stop ,", "I was at an Oasis concert way back when. I don't know what makes their fanbase suck, but they do. \n\nAt the time, it was popular to cut up glow rings and spatter people.", "Seriously it's not a rare thing for artists to do this. We don't need a million examples of it happening.", "This is what happens when Gen Z'ers no nothing but digital and have no social awareness.", "They aren’t actually dicks. It’s an act. Do they hate each other. Sort of. But in 10 years at Sony they were always nice af to me. And I was no one anyone needed to be nice to.", "This is honestly the reason why I don't understand why people like those types of huge arena shows. That terrifies me and I never feel like I can be at ease and enjoy the music. The best shows I've been at where tiny venues or middle size venues with seating.", "Why not be in the crowd dancing with everyone? That's where the real fun is.\n\nDownvoted by peeps who have never been to a live gig. Show yourselves cowards.", "Some celebrities are great role models and amazing human beings. Travis Scott is not one of them.", "...how would I eat my nachos if I'm dancing?", "I’m starting to wonder if humans weren’t meant to gather in crowds like this.", "Wouldn't be elegant but you'd get there", "DAYMM...All those dead people killing his mood.\n\n/s", "It's all about crowd management. Look at live concert in japan. They separate the crowd into sections so things like this don't happen.\n\nEDIT: [Here's an example](https://youtu.be/Z8AOKs2jk_k?t=26)\n\nEDIT2: [Another good example](https://youtu.be/T-DZ5dDCwHA?t=1). Bird view of the entire stadium", "For those who haven't been in a packed crowd like that, I'll tell you, it is uncomfortable. You're being smashed from all around you and moved against your will. I've experienced that at pretty normal rock concerts; it's not fun.", "> stop the show for safety.\n\nUsually the deaths occur either before or after the show though, as people are on the move leaving or entering.\n\nDuring the show, most people are busy dancing or not paying attention to those around them, which in turn deadens 'crowd waves'. Ie. if someone is pushed, they will absorb more of the push than they pass on to the next person, and the wave dies out.\n\nWhen people are walking, they are often on one foot, and there crowd waves are amplified (if people are sufficiently closely spaced).", "Well, in fairness, if you do see people being crushed and you don't stop your show, then that is unethical. I do not know what the guy in question saw and was aware of though.", "I was at a Pink Floyd concert in the late 90s, and everyone was so stoned they were just sitting in their seats chilling to the music. That was much more my speed.", "that is what everyone here is saying is what happens, being picked up off your feet\n\nsounds terrifying, having no control and being squished.\n\nwhat an awful way to die.", "look in this thread for a link to that post about this phenomenon. when this happens the crowd basically becomes a fluid, it's nuts.", "comment in that thread, \"imagine taking your last breath and all you get to hear is 'YeeaAAhh yEaaeahhhh'\"", "Just speaking from experience about the punk shows I’ve been too. If someone falls in the pit everyone is pretty good about making sure the person is safely brought back to the surface. You wanna have fun and make sure everyone is taken care of", "the only thing i know about Travis Scott is that that isn't his real name, it's his stage name. that's gotta be the lamest stage name i've ever heard of lol", "I feel like only the Japanese are socially conscious enough to stay in those pods", "Yeah, i just wrote elsewhere about artists that are so called dicks.. it is not really being dick at the core, artists are difficult and different people, but at their core there is loads of empathy and caring. It just doesn't always translate well. True dickheads rarely make it out from the local circuits almost no matter the talent. Being able to work with others is a necessary skill. I'm now retired from touring but did a lot of volunteering in my time, helping local new bands and have seen many, many acts come and go. The key factors are: be on time, do what you promised to do, get along with others. I've blacklisted some and that was the end of the road for them, not just because a small local promoter says so, but because their bandmates finally kick them out and no one wants to work with them. Often they are quite good musicians too, the same energy that makes them dickheads is a driving force in other areas too, they can practice longer and harder than any one else on the block.\n\nBut artists can still behave like dicks, and they do.. all the time but it is kind of an act and kind of a shell they have created as a defense method because they really are just odd people and that is one way to deal with it. But they show up on time, do what they promised and get along with others, well, mostly... But there is certain work ethic and attitude that you can sense, even when they are demanding to work with. I haven't been yet wrong in my prediction of what artists and groups are still working, 20 years later and who was going to wash out in 2 years. They care what they do.", "Traffic. Sand. Landslides. Earthquakes & liquefaction.\n\nStuff moving can be modeled as a fluid.", "I think a lot of people who have never been to concerts and fests of this size have no idea what can happen, or that there's a long history of performers stoping to address this sort of thing. Which is useful context.", "To be fair, we don’t know what was going on in Travis’s mind at the time. I’ve been to concerts where people passed out due to drugs and heat, and I’d wager he had no idea that this person was dead. This is my own conjecture, but I’d also imagine these celebs have an overwhelming sense of responsibility to produce the best show possible, and there might be some anxiety there where he’s thinking “should I stop the show for this person who passed out?” I think it might be difficult for someone to distinguish between what’s normal at such a massive festival vs what’s a problem and then how to react to it as a result of being the main event.\n\nEdit:\n\nHere’s video of him stopping the show because he thought the person “passed out”:\n\nhttps://twitter.com/aidanauri/status/1456990256335572995?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1456990256335572995%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.insider.com%2Ftravis-scott-astroworld-pleas-to-stop-festival-ignored-eyewitnesses-2021-11", "That’s exactly how it looks. Amazing", "They're told to stop the gig. In my eyes it's a neglect of the event staff, no matter how much of a POS the artist is.", "I find the “dick” is most often the “fan” who didn’t get what they wanted or expected out of an encounter with someone who is ostensibly a stranger, and they are DEFINITELY a stranger to. \n\nSaw many famous peoples eyes go wide with the “fuck is this my Mark David Chapman” look. Is a defense mechanism. These internet famous twats don’t get it bc they feed off the real life interactions they fake all day.", "I don't like anything enough to suffer through that.", "I've been to their concert in Jakarta and they divided the crowd too. If it work in Indonesia it should work everywhere else because have bad record of concert death.", "I feel like the Japanese and us took a different fork in the road during the 80s with culture and rock music.", "I’ve been to quite a few small to medium punk shows. The crowd at punk shows is, for the most part, kind, helpful, accepting and generous. I’ve also been to some pretty big country shows a d the crowd is overwhelmingly aggressive and violent.", "Good festivals/venues will have multiple barriers in the crowd to prevent this sort of thing now.", "I know he can’t hold his head up straight, by looking at the pics of him on Google.", "It's not uncommon for fans to have cheer choreography for each song in Japan. It's even more prevalent in their idol scene where the cheer choreography can be more complex.", "It's not even proper management lol. If you are in a crush you can't stop and pick someone up, that's the whole problem.", "I shouldn't laugh but holy hell that's funny.", "This is the thing. The most cynical belief I’ve adopted over the last two years is that Americans are socially blind, maybe irreparably so. For some reason we just don’t give a fuck, and apparently even when there are lives on the line people will just do the opposite* of the socially responsible thing, just because they can’t be told what to do. \n\nLike I’ve always known that a little bit, from the way people act in airports and stuff (spreading across escalators, walking slowly in the middle of halls, etc), but it took COVID to really sink in. \n\nAnd at this concert with all the stories coming out, shitloads of people just didn’t give a fuck that people were dying. Even in the crowd; the vid where the girl was yelling at the camera guy you can see a bunch of people still trying to get into the concert. Fuck, according to her she got booed. It just makes me sad.", "insert something about the constitution and the land of the free etc..", "How does something like this start? Song starts people at back push or something?", "Imagine what it smells like", "Rage Against the Machine would regularly pause during their 2008 Lollapalooze show and threaten to walk off the stage if people didn't calm down. They actually paused to let medical perosnnel get in and remove those that were injured.", "At first I was like ohhh look at the Oasis guy being a good dude. 10 seconds later he is telling the crew they are going to get fired.", "I always think “What if you have to go to the bathroom?”", "I'm claustrophobic and mildly agoraphobic, so this is basically my hell.", "I’ve personally seen it happen at like a dozen concerts", "We evolved in forest tribes and are still there, evolutionary speaking. Civilisation came about too fast for us to adjust. A few thousand years is nothing in evolutionary terms.", "That's dark and unsetting as fuck.", "Thank you for bringing this up. Should the show have stopped? Sure. But hes not a POS as all the people in the comments say. He looks concerned but in his mind I bet hes thinking \"the show must go on\" and no one told him to stop.\n\nEDIT: I realize now how wrong I was, but I'm not deleting my comment cuz I deserve the downvotes.", "Why is Jakarta so known for giant concerts? Real question. I always hear about massive ones there. Hell, even Hanson’s first experience with a giant crowd was in Jakarta.", "Oasis is like Radiohead if Radiohead never got good", ">Show yourselves cowards.\n\nIf I wanted to be packed in a small room with stinky sweaty people all groping and grinding against each other, I'd go to your mom's house.", "Nah, it was when we lost Tupac and BIG and may be linked to scientology and Nation of Islam starting to work together, lol.\n\nWeird af but true story.", "This happened on a smaller(but still frightening) scale at Riot Fest 2014 when the Descendants started playing. The ground was very muddy and uneven, full of divots from feet, and very hard to simply walk on normally. Then the music started and everyone rushed the stage(why). I had to run/float for about 30 feet and was constantly on the edge of falling to the ground. That was the first concert I attended where I was literally afraid of dying by suffocation or trampling. I don't know if anyone was hurt but I wouldn't be surprised.", "Maybe because it's an 11 million people city in a country of 277 million people?", "9021Oooo.... second verse, 902100ooOo\n\nHe actually said \"second verse.\" How anyone can like this shit is far beyond me.", "I've been to a few Foo Fighters shows and Dave will always tell the crowd to be good to each other, etc. Absolutely I've seen him full on stop the show if something bad happens in the crowd.", "Teen spirit.", "Case in point", "I think the fork was a liiiiiiittle further back than the 1980s.", "Probably because we have several large venues, the largest being a stadium with 100k capacity. Also because there's not that many act that visit Jakarta so each one become a huge spectacle for fans. Even indie bands can sell out here.", "Fortunately the big festivals I've been to in Europe (Spain, Belgium, Poland) in the past decade have all used some form of crowd barriers also (though not as extensive as Japan, so it could be improved). I haven't been in a big open crowd like in that Oasis video, so I really hope having barriers is standard practice these days.", "I mean, New York City is a population of 8.2 million in a country of 333 million and it’s not insanely well known for gigantic concerts.", "Now I understand why it's crowd surfing. Scary.", "But you could get like 10% more people squeezed in there! Won't anyone think of the profits?!", "Matt good from fftl?", "im not even a fan of him but i mean thats exactly whats happening here.", "As someone who has been involved in dozens of shows of various kinds, I can emphatically tell you that no, the show must not go on when there’s a good reason for it not to.\n\nA single person in medical distress among thousands is more than enough reason to stop any show. I’ve seen bigger shows stopped for less.\n\nIf he was unaware, that’s one thing (though someone with the power to pull the plug should have had enough eyes on the crowd to know when to do so). But if, as you say, he “looked concerned” but decided to continue, then yeah, that’s a POS choice.", "I saw System of a Down at Riot Fest in Chicago in 2015. I was pretty close up right in the center after holding my place thru Merle Haggard and Billy Idol. As soon as Billy Idol ended the entire crowd started pushing towards the front, which completely crammed me in and wedged me so tight I couldn't even get into my pocket for my phone. \n\n&#x200B;\n\nDuring this I was trying to calm myself down and reassure I wasn't going to die, but eventually I had a full blown panic attack and started screaming to let me out. I eventually was able to get out and made it back to a safer distance and was able to enjoy the show.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nAfter the first song the band recognized that there was a crowd surge and stopped the music for 15 minutes so people could chill out. There apparently were several people being trampled that could have easily died if the music had not stopped.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nWhen I was in the middle of it, even before the show, it was one of the scariest moments of my life. Maybe I overreacted but my brain was just telling me I was going to die, and so I panicked.", "I was just talking about this. Went to ACL 3-4 years ago when Chance the Rapper was there. The waves of people pushing is so uncomfortable, really shows you how helpless you are in group think when people rush the stage", "I've been unplugged all weekend, I was starting to think there was some horrible crush accident that had happened hence all these videos about crowd management. So it's just people jumping on the bandwagon?", "I don't see a lot of stuff like this at metal shows. I wonder if it's because of the mosh pits acting like pressure release or something.", "I'll never understand how that is enjoyable because you can't move. How do you get out of there if say some asshole causes a panic? How do you go to the bathroom? You can't see the stage from some places. Its mad.", "\"rap man bad\"", "Its weird the working in unison is creepy considering the things that get accomplished in Japan vs other countries. How did that become anxiety inducing for people? Shouldn't working together be something that culturally we try to do because if we want to tackle problems we need to be on the same page otherwise the whole thing collapses like every other civilization that has existed. Maybe why we haven't made a back up earth yet or cured STD's", "Had a similar thing happen when Slipknot played at Download (I think it was 2015)? Was too far back to see for myself but apparently the crowd broke the barrier (twice). They stopped straight away and kept us entertained while we waited.\n\nNope: it was 2013\n https://youtu.be/EbjjDmJhs_0\n\nEven says about how he wouldn't want anything bad to happen to the fans. You know, as you would expect any human being who's not a total piece of shit to do (cough cough).", "That's what I tell people when they ask why I've never been to Times Sq. on NYE. The reason none of us locals go is because we don't enjoy being stuck in a fenced in rectangle with no bathroom surrounded by obnoxious tourists.", "That show was bonkers. I decided to catch the beginning of Wilco and then move to Rage. Walking past the first-aid tent on the way to the other stage was shocking. Absolutely chaotic triage and RATM had only been playing for about 20 minutes. Good on them for noticing and acting on it. It was rough, but could have easily been a horrible tragedy.", "That is a crowd surge? Terrifying to see. Couldn’t imagine being in that. How does something like that even happen?", "Americans have been fed this idea of rugged individualism for so long that it basically morphed into \"Fuck you, you can't tell me what to do.\"", "And then you stop the concert when someone is crushed to death. Billy Corgan did at a pumpkins show back in the day. \n\nI can't remember exactly what he (or someone in the band said) but it was rather scathing towards the crowd, and rightfully so. I want to say it was along the lines of \"a girl fucking died. You crushed her to death. Go home\". It was in 1996 in Ireland.", "Wow that video really puts it into perspective.", "> fftl\n\nThere's a Matthew Good originally from the [Matthew Good Band](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Good_Band).", "[Matthew Good Band](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Good_Band) \n \n >Matthew Good Band was a Canadian alternative rock band formed in Coquitlam, British Columbia in 1995. The band consisted of singer-songwriter/guitarist Matthew Good, guitarist/keyboardist Dave Genn, drummer Ian Browne and bassist Geoff Lloyd. Lloyd was replaced by Rich Priske in 1998. They became one of the most successful rock bands in Canada during the late 1990s and early 2000s, being nominated for 14 Juno Awards and winning the awards for \"Best Group\" and \"Best Rock Album\" (Beautiful Midnight) in 2000.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( \| )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( \| )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( \| )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove \| v1.5)", "Nah, stop the show. Artists do it all the time. Personally if I were to be in a crowd and people are dropping like flies I would hold alot more respect for said artists to stop the show and address the situation rather than act like nothing is happening and just go \"yeeeaHhhhhh yeeeaHhhhhh YYYYEeeaaahhhhh\"", "Bumped into Liam a couple of times and he was really nice. Had a chat, and he was really polite. Not like the public persona at all.", "All of these types of videos are coming up because of that travis rapper guy thing that happened and some people got killed, right?", "It was a joke.", "Would never work in the us. One guy would use the lanes to get close to the front, 1 would follow 10 would follow him, 100 would follow those 10.\n\nLiterally seen exactly this in the US at a concert where the rule was to keep the aisle clear. People crowded it some at the edges, were removed, repeat, didn't take long for it to just get filled.", "Not everyone understands it’s common. People are proving a point.", "Pretty sure he's just joking.", "USA is over 400% bigger than Indonesia... so that 270 million is in a super dense country, not scattered across an entire continent, (i realize that USA isnt the entire continent, but it is basically the entire width of north america.)", "The best crowd management is having a lower capacity. The gigs are more fun, you have room to dance, you can get out of the arena if you need a break. These high capacity events just aren't as much fun.", "Festivals look awful", "Maybe there's gonna be someone that saves them?", "Celebrity worship is cringe", "I've been to a million punk gigs, and whenever anyone fell you'd instantly feel several hands grab you and pull you back up. We looked out for each other. We were there for a good time, anyone who was too aggressive or causing trouble, or touching people in ways they shouldn't would be pushed out and/or thrown out of the venue. Never have I ever felt like I was in danger when at a punk gig.", "Yeah, they definitely all deserve to die because Live Nation and Travis Scott suck at their jobs. You don't sound like a douchebag at all.", "I noticed in this video either security or venue staff came up and cut the music until the issue was addressed. Did this happen for Travis Scott or was he allowed fo continue performing as though there were no issues?", " Japan searchers found out that putting an obstacle in the middle of the way to an exit door makes the crowd's move much more fluid that without an obstacle. \n\nhttps://www.scientificamerican.com/article/obstacle-exit-pedestrian/", "Ha, so random. Lived in Jakarta at the time, parent was working with the Canadian embassy. Was offerred to meet them, I thought I was too cool.", "[Here’s the audio of that event.](https://youtu.be/5BmD49G0keY)", "The US has 4 or 5 times the land of Indonesia and 2.8 million more people in a city is a lot. But anyway it's mostly that NYC has big concerts too, but has a lot of entertainment options so concerts aren't as big a deal. Jakarta rarely gets visited by international acts so whenever anybody has a concert there it's popular and the organizers try to maximize capacity more", "I went to a Roger Waters concert about 4 years ago with my dad because his friend had a last minute change of plans and I’d found myself with a free ticket, and that description still holds up now to this day, a whole lot of stoned 50 to 60 year olds vibing out.\n\nI’m not much for night clubs and crowded concerts anyway, so 17 year old me was right at home that night.", "you should be having stage/crew who come in on your monitor to tell you shit. When I used to film concerts we had shit like this for minor things like I dunno, gotta stop 'cause the wind has picked up too much. No one has to go on stage to tell the act, they get told from the backstage sound guys desk. Then they can be all, \"Hey guys, it's looking a bit too windy, we need to stop because it's not safe\", look all smart and safety conscious.\n\nthe fact that he saw someone wasn't in a good place, stopped enough that they got the body out, and then kept going? That sounds like failures of staff, crew, and the act.", "In Canada I've been to tons of arena shows and festivals and it's never been like this. People stand apart and give each other space. The only shows here where I've been crushed are the middle sized venues where everyone is a superfan of the band and rushes the stage.\n\nActually that only happened once and it was to see the band The Prodigy and there were a bunch of British people in the crowd pushing people around etc. Maybe it's just British people lol.", "You start doing that and you'll get into a fight real quick, it's not the people in your direct vicinity that cause these surges.", "I was so confused. This entire time, I didn't know who Travis Scott was, and thought they were talking about Travis Barker. I was very surprised Blink 182 was still so popular.", "Fair point.", "Aww, I’m both envious of the offer and annoyed you didn’t go.", "There is a venue near me with 0 seating. I have passed on multiple shows because of this. 12 years ago? I'm there. These days, I need a chair and a place to put my beer.", "I was in that crowd near the front. I've been to a lot of large stadium and festival gigs and that was by far the biggest surge I've seen or been in.\n\nThere was a point where a couple of hundred people just went down around us too, with many struggling to get back to their feet and others falling on top of them. We managed to stay on our feet and get people back up off the floor. Scary moments though.\n\nMany outdoor Oasis gigs I've been to over the years (including Maine Road and Knebworth) always used 'pits' where they could segregate large sections of the crowd and prevent mass surges like this, but the Ethiad Stadium doesn't seem to use them (I've been to several gigs there for different bands over the years).", "You can pick a shirt and follow it move to where some one was 10 shirts to the left, insane", "I wonder if you could apply water flow mechanism to crowds. Place some rounded fenced areas in the crowd to break up the press like placing rocks in a river to slow the flow.", "Tooooooooooo beeeeeeeeeeee faaaaiiirrrrrrrrrr\n\nRATM puts on a hell of a show and the pits they generate can get a little wild", "I don't understand. I haven't been to festivals but I've never been at a concert and felt the need to rush the stage like I'm at the capital riot or my underdog college team just won a huge upset", "Wow, that is the best video demonstration of a crowd surge I've ever seen.", "I went to see the President's of the United States in early January of this year and it was crazy how you just get swept up with the crowd... People had built a gallows and brought zip ties and we're surging toward the building. Crazy.", "Not exactly relevant seeing as the person you're replying to was talking about the Travis Scott concert, right?", "Well, with no evidence whatsoever, who wouldn’t believe that claim?", "But hey, we are living in the age of me me me me me me, so there’s that.", "Literally British humour at its finest. It’s a joke", "The middle seems to be a safe spot at any show large enough to have a central tent for sound techs.\n\nOnly show I went to that was this crazy was Rage Against the Machine at Lolla '08. I think the act before was Lupe Fiasco. Right before the end of Lupe's set there was a massive surge like this that took me from reasonably close to about 20 rows back from stage right. The compressions continued during the remainder of Lupe and into the beginning of RATM until I was up to like 5 rows back through literally no choice of my own. Initially I thought it was really fortunate that I got so close but it was really difficult to enjoy that show throughout. That show was halted multiple times but every time they started back up the surge kept coming.\n\nAbout halfway through the set I was so exhausted that it was the only time I ever thought about asking security of pulling me out of the crowd. Fortunately for me I somehow was able to move laterally towards the central alley, where I could get water from security/get doused by security/gain some measure of respite from the surge.\n\nSeems to me that's the move when you're in a situation like this and you feel yourself getting weak/exhausted. Use whatever remaining energy you have to move laterally until you're out of the focal point of the waves. I was young back then and had never been in such an insane crowd so I had no idea how dangerous it was. Honestly I didn't come to that realization until now, seeing all this discussion/video evidence.\n\nBut yeah, the move is to slither sideways out of the crush. The central area of large/main stage festival crowds typically have physical structures that can dissipate the fluid motion of the crowd - and if they have competent security/medical personnel they'll be able to help you. If you can't exit the crowd to the left or right, it's the next safest spot.\n\nUnfortunately looking at the video of the Travis Scott show there was no such setup for that stage. It was just one massive crowd uninterrupted more or less and the only way out would be via the sides.", "[One of their first shows they threatened the crew of the show when they got told they weren't going to play because they hadn't been booked. brought a bunch of their mates down to help with that.](https://youtu.be/sNh4pVMFhvQ?t=63) They are arseholes, just not all the time.", "Their crowd is pretty dickish too. The only time I’ve seen Oasis, I saw pints of urine being thrown regularly, and a few fights on the audience.", "I was at a Shinedown and Five Finger Death Punch concert in Orlando a few years ago, where during Shinedown’s set, someone was apparently being an ass up front. Brent Smith stopped the show, said something along the lines of how he wouldn’t tolerate that kind of behavior during their shows, and the culprit was escorted out of the venue. Super classy move.", "What's nuts is that many people going to an Oasis concert in 2005.", "I believe that's called a wonderwall.", "Why are there so many posts on reddit of bands stopping crowds? I've seen at least 3 today and a few yesterday.", "[link](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-59194819)", "I was at an Iron Maiden show in 2006, Manchester I think.\n\nThe entire show stopped about 2 songs in and Bruce made everyone take 2 massive steps backwards. It was absolute bedlam, young audience because Trivium were the support act but it was by far one of the most chaotic gigs I've been to.", "Crowd control is a serious and complicated thing, you got to think about it for the people in the back or those stuck between larger people. \n\nThey can't hear or see a thing they begin to panic which spreads and some think the party is just getting started and other are fighting for even a single breath.", "Gen Z is people born from 1997-2012... this video is from 2005.\n\nI don't see many 5-8 year olds in this video.. do you?!", "Yeah, you know it's bad when you are a bigger asshole than Oasis. Seems like that would make most people stop and think.", "One of my first concerts was Greenday and the same thing happened. This was back in the day, I must have been 13 or so. I was not prepared for that type of thing. Must have been a couple hundred people being thrown, a lot of us so far that we fell. Luckily my friend pulled my up and we continued to help everyone on the ground. \nScary shit", "The amount of ridiculously dramatic over the top \"I was at a show with a big crowd once and it was scary!\" type stories getting upvoted is insane. \n\nPeople trying reeaaaal hard to make this whole thing about them.", "People in Japan still have free thought. Putting a value on collective efforts doesn't make you drone. But the fear of it does reduce a nations effectiveness in a competitive world. Empires fall once any nation stops being competitive. If you look at history, what countries thrived and what countries fall apart and remain apart? Even America currently is not the America of the golden years. The idea of what it means to be a free individual in modern times is not the same as the idea of a free individual in America's hay day. So is the idea of absolute individual a rot or not?", "I've been to probably about 15 Matt Good shows and I've seen him stop them dead 3 times to call out dangerous assholes in the crowd. Whatever else may be true about the guy, he's responsible with his fans' safety.", "Nothing quite like a headache from being kicked in the head by a crowd surfer.", "Been to quite a few and played metal/hardcore shows in my days, most of the time people are helpful, respectful, and we all look out for one another. I see more fucked up shit going on in mainstream shows than I ever did underground shows.", ">I threw up blood after the concert from the exhaustion.\n\nYeah, exhaustion is not a reason to throw up blood my dude.", "I was at the smashing pumpkins concert where a girl that was killed in the crush was dragged over my head. I had to be dragged out by security too as I was pinned to the railing front of stage. That was in around 1996 I think.", "They were fucking huge lol.", "With auto tune", "Maybe he's a Ramones fan.", "This really speaks to me.", "Note also communication from the crew to the band.", "Fun fact the majority of the human body is water. So we are quite literally water and behave as such.", "I don't even like going outside, the prospect of being in a crowd that big is just hellish to me", "I'm never going to a concert.", "Yeah, people behave like a fluid when crowded that tightly.", "Throwing up blood is not a symptom of exhaustion that I have experienced.", "You act like that's any different than any time ever.", "I'm loving seeing all these better musicians and better people treat their crowds as people with respect and compassion.", "yeah their super big album came out in what, like 2000? the one with all those hits on it. so it makes sense they'd still be big.\n\nhell i think they still are today? i don't know i barely follow music anymore", "Someone had to manifest that destiny. /s", "Yeah weren't they the band that talked about being bigger than the beetles? They were huge in the uk", "Just think of the ticket service charges!", "I find it kind of beautiful lol. You know, as long as everyone ended up alright", "Seems like an appropriate reaction to the very real possibly of injury/ death.", "That works only because they are a collectivist society. Western countries wouldn't be able to reproduce that. A thousand people would selfishly fill those empty areas to get closer to the action. Another thousand would see that and follow. It's just ingrained in the way we behave and operate in our culture.", "Since I am in introvert, this won't apply, but why the hell would anyone want to be in a crowd that big anyway? That is scary, and heaven forbid I have to pee! Fuck that!", "Never seen the emptihad so full", "same thing in the metal scene - I've several bands stop mid song to admonish a show for not picking people up in a pit", "Just to clarify: are you likening Japan's population to a \"droid army\"?", "I wouldn’t call them dicks. Liam regularly hangs out with his fans. They sing together in pubs over pints. Can you think of any other rockstar that does that!?", "I've always been nervous in large crowds, I don't know if I will ever let myself be in one again. It's so much scarier and more dangerous than people want to think about but crowd dynamics are nothing I want to be involved with", "Whats the name of the song?", "(What's the Story) Morning Glory came out in 1995.", "It looks like there’s seats so it’s easier to defend your seat if there’s a debate.", "yo, that's violent. omg", "Your body gets renewed over time. Most of the material in you now wasn't in you 7ish years ago. You are a consciousness wave moving through your body. Or maybe not, I'm a little high.", "Thanks to these kinds of videos and the whole travis Scott thing I’m never getting in a crowd like this ever again", "I almost died at a show when something like this happened.\nI couldn't breath.", "Do any of you actually enjoy crowds like this? I won’t even go to the county fair on a super busy anticipated day because I can’t do crowds. How the fuck does anyone feel comfortable or happy in these settings?", "Holy Shit!", "ngl im really enjoying all the videos across reddit of how to conduct a concert propely after the travis incident lmao", "Major respect for them for shutting that shit down", "Yup :(", "Oh look, it's a new reason for zombies to be scary.", "hey that's the one, good album.", "We've been to see Frank Turner more times than I can even count, and usually the crowd is told to be kind, and check everyone around you is okay and also having fun.\n\n\nOne of the more recent times we saw him (some point in the last few months) it was the most unplesant gig i've ever been to because I was knocked to the floor several times and not picked up (usually there's an unwritten code almost of 'pick whoever's on the floor up'). I'm female but i'm 6ft so can usually hold my own quite well. I was so uncomfortable and it felt incredibly dangerous because I kept finding myself being swept by the crowd movements. Only small amounts compared to some experiences detailed in this thread but it was terrifying and it's the only gig i've ever felt unsafe at.\n\n\n\nIt really ruined it tbh.", "Gotta love reddits freshest circlejerk", "Him calling Oasis a class act and talking about \"gang banging pos culture\" tells me all I need to know about him. :P", "Too many character models in one local instance causes things to go weird.", "Obviously", "I think the density needs to be something like 5 people per square meter", "Nah.", "In Manchester? They could do twice that today if they did a reunion.", "They wont have to worry about that happening ever again. Always hated wonderwall too and the smugness of that one brother in the band. “Better than the beatles” yeah right!!!", "Yeah this is what I thought of since I was there and remember quite the stage rush at the beginning and remember really respecting how he asked people to take care of each other.\n\nFound one small clip of it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yK-UGgvQGWo", "Anyway....here's Wonderwall.", "Daymn!", "If it makes you feel better, I'm of the opinion that it only takes a small number of people to be selfish assholes in the crowd to cause a problem. I'd like to believe the majority of people are decent and caring but once it gets too overwhelming to a certain point, just a few assholes being blind to others causes major problems.\n\nBut I dunno. Maybe that's just wishful thinking. Like, I'm sure the people in the back don't realize they're causing these problems for the people at the front. I haven't been to a big fest-type concert in a long time, but it always seemed that most of the people were respectful and looking out for each other, then you'd have a couple incidents of assholes out looking to just cause problems and validate themselves", "Same..my shoulders never been the same!", "Fuck this gave me a sinking feeling in my stomach. I don’t go to concerts anywhere close as big and I still never go to the front or middle of the crowd.", "Lolla '08 vet here as well. RATM was the craziest crowd surge I was ever involved with. That was a wild show. Everyone recalling their own memories is making me remember all of mine. Everyone was really good at getting people up and over so they could surf out. Greatest concert experience of my life.", "Oh wow instantly recognised that from GTO opening, looks like such a great show to go to.", "Ya that initial stage rush was intense. I was with my lady friend and tried to create an arm barricade around her. That didn't last long but ultimately the show was great once everyone got it all out and RATM calmed things down. Then after the show tearing down the fences and pouring into downtown Chicago like a mob. It was awesome! Nobody died! I can't do that anymore though.", "My bigger fear isn't so much what if I have to go to the bathroom\n\nbut what if the person next to me has to go to the bathroom? Every year I hear stories of people just getting pissed and puked on, because no one's gonna hold it for 12+ hours so they just let rip right there. Or get so drunk that they can't hold it back.\n\nAnd then you're just covered in piss and puke for the next however many hours, as it fucking freezes dry on you, while you're shoved up against everyone else in this tiny little space to get a far worse show than you'd get at home on TV.\n\nYeah, this is not something that ever needs to be on my bucket list. Even just \"for the experience\" or \"to say I did it\" or whatever.", "For what it's worth Blink is still making music (they ere supposed to have an EP this year, but Hoppus was diagnosed with cancer - now in remission - so things took a back seat) and Travis... Travis is crushing it right now.\n\nHe's been propping up dozens of smaller artists, featuring on their tracks to give them recognition, producing, recording, etc. He's, imo, almost single handedly revived the modern punk scene", "underestimating Oasis in the UK", "Not being facetious, but what about those guys that are throwing elbows and swinging their arms around like Haggar from Final Fight? They just seem out to hit someone and be like \"oops\" after.", "No, your first instinct was correct. Google Travis Scott Astroword. At least 8 people dead.", "You literally described what you are supposed to do if you get caught in a rip tide / rip current at the beach. Don’t fight and try to swim to shore ; swim parallel to the shore until you are free of the current and only then head to the beach. Fascinating that the same lesson applies to a sea of people.", "> I get wanting to be close to enjoy the show and see the artist,\n\nIt's never seemed like it's about that to me. Like sure there are some people who want to get to the front to have a better experience, but that gets settled pretty early on. After that it becomes people just trying to get an extra five feet further just to... say they did, I guess? Just to feel like they accomplished something, like it's a big game of king of the hill.\n\nShoving someone in front of you to get five feet further up is not going to enhance your experience in any way.", "Put the rule on a sign and we Germans will obey as well.", "You usually can’t tell how crowded it is when you’re in it unless people do shit like this or your in the very front", "Pretty amazing, like who was paying to go see Oasis in 2005?", "British concert culture definitely has some less than ideal traditions. The pushing is a big one which is really only an issue at big festival gigs. The other is throwing beer in the air. It's just annoying.", "After getting pulled out of the Lolla '08 RATM crowd, the vitamin water they gave me was the best tasting thing of my life. What a wild show, it was amazing. The heat and exhaustion was set in at that point because to be THAT close to the stage, you were standing there since 9 in the morning and pissing in bottles lol.", "matt good had a shoe thrown at him at UBC and he walked off the stage.", "Lol you know I never really thought about it, I just chalked it up to that. I didn't get hit or crushed or anything so I just figured that was it. Also it wasn't like a stream of pure blood. It was mostly bile with a bit of blood in it.", "I remember at the time being so goddamned annoyed that the show stopped and Zach talked so much. In hindsight those pauses definitely helped protect the safety of myself and the whole crowd.\n\n[Video for posterity](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yK-UGgvQGWo)\n\nI think they stopped 3 times? Maybe just 2 times.", "Had me in the first half", "Everyone became a professional on the density of people fluid real quick.", "Move backwards when people get too close and you'll be alright. These issues are caused by a combo of people wanting to get closer and closer backed up with poor crowd control.", "That's incredible", "Holy shit thanks so much for posting this video! This is memories, man, holy shit.", "The deluge of crowd videos has maked me learned new", "Still don’t necessarily obey the laws of fluid dynamics though. \n \nHuman bodies aren’t the best at following Bernoulli's principle.", "Somethings are obv obv obv", "Maybe different in the US, but I've been going to gigs in the UK for 25 years and there's invariably a surge in the first few minutes. You learn to expect it and brace for it.\n\nThey're not usually as as big as the one at this Oasis gig, but there's always pressure from the back of the crowd at the start of the show.\n\nIt's not a case of 'rushing the stage' though, it's just crowd dynamics. Before the gig, the front of the crowd is usually pretty dense with those who are determined to be at the front, but the further back you go the more distance people keep from each other.\n\nThen, as the show starts, the crowd tightens up and there's a cumulative wave that surges through the crowd from the back that amplifies as it gets to the front. \n\nThe problems come when the surges are excessively strong as we've seen this week unfortunately.", "So is this the new Karma Whoring trend for the next 48 hours...?\n\nTime to filter", "Um.... no. No, there was a horrible crush accident. The bandwagon is a response to it.", "The Age of Six ME's!\n\nTravis Scott concert ended 8 ME's (Friday night in Houston). (Conspiracy wakos & talkin bout Devil Worship b/c I think he kept performing or some shit?) \nProbably the Venues culpability, but the Artist should have some sort of trigger go off on their head when they see multiple people being crushed to death & carried out to EMS? I dunno, maybe he was High?) \n\nAlso, \n\nElon Musk is ushering the age of eternal (AI,?Neurolink) & bringing countless ME's to Mars...\n\nCRAZY times right now. (Just crazy!)", "Yeah you do get people who come to cause trouble, because they think a moshpit is a valid excuse to be a violent nutcase. In my experience they would literally get pushed out of the crowd and if they were especially twatty they were literally manhandled and thrown out entirely. So yeah, those people do try and show up on occasion, but at all the gigs I went to they were usually dealt with in minutes, sometimes by request from the band or someone on the crew etc, or by the crowd simply grabbing them, pulling/shoving them away and having a word and/or throwing them out. There were always more people that were there to be cool and enjoy the show and have a good time cos almost across the board, punks are chill as fuck and some of the friendliest and kindest motherfuckers out there.", "I was at this, it was rubbish. I'd been to see them about 10 times between 94 and 96 when they were fucking great. This was like a tribute band. Awful.", "[Yeah.](https://youtu.be/sNh4pVMFhvQ?t=63)", "I like music. I like concerts. \n\nAt no point in my life would I ever feel the need to behave like this... especially over some fucking shitstain like Travis Scott.", "Metal shows have tons of etiquette. Rule is, someone falls, you pick them back up. Everyone's looking out for each other, dipshits being the exception.", "I think metalheads just inherently acknowledge the danger of the crowd. Moshing kind of forces you to respect the danger whether you want to or not. Plus, we tend to expect a bit of chaos so we're more alert to the potential for injury during the show. There's no illusion of safety at metal shows; the crowd takes responsibility for itself.\n\nWe also have a reputation to live down. People expect us to be assholes; so we go out of our way to keep metal shows safe and inviting.\n\nI will say I've been to some fucking insane shows, though. I've even been in a few actual fights with assholes who figured \"moshing\" meant \"kill the person in front of me\". Even threw a violent drunk over the barrier once after he tried to climb my best friends girlfriend like a ladder* multiple times, and fight me when I hauled him away.\n\nShit does get crazy, but alt shows tend to self-police. For example; I once watched a guy who groped a crowd surfer get sucked into a pit. He did not leave under his own power. Betcha he won't get handsy again.", "Yeah, it's just morons who've never been around the metal scene who assume it's horrible.", "Me too, I was right near the front. Absolutely terrifying.", "Yep you would need 35x the security to immediately respond to anybody who steps out of line. And nobody is going to foot that bill, they would rather take the chance of some people dying.", "Exactly. The music is aggressive therefore we must fight each other for respect and space. Like… wut did I just read hahaha 🤣", "About when I saw them. The single most boring concert I’ve ever seen", "Yeah but then you don't get to take selfies and post videos of the show that every one of your friends will totally watch. So what's the point.", "I was at Austin City Limits waiting for Lorde in 2014. We were towards the back but not far enough that we couldn’t see anything. When she came on stage, all of a sudden everybody surged 20 feet towards the stage. We could not move anywhere. My arms were pressed against my body and I had no room to free them. It felt like we were in a sardine can. Definitely took away from the experience.\n\nCan’t imagine how I’d feel in a stadium full of people like that Oasis show. No thanks.", "I also noticed people will obnoxiously sing along not just to the words but to like, notable riffs. A guy beside me at a nine inch nails concert was going \"DOO DOO DOOT DE DOOOO!\" when the synth from Terrible Lie was being played. It almost came off at patronizing. Like it was a children's song. It felt more like heckling than being a fan. I get this vibe that in British culture, if you are a \"macho\" guy or a soccer hooligan/skinhead type, you aren't allowed to show even the slightest feeling, to the point that you can't actively show you enjoy something, everything needs to be mocked.", "Liam Gallagher had so much swagger.", "Bye Felish.", "classic texas", "One thing I’ve learned is there is a communal understanding that exists in metal/hardcore shows amongst the people. A inexperienced observer would just see chaos and possible danger. With the exception of the inevitable individual asshole who drank too much or is just a POS human, there isn’t a single place I’d rather be if I had to be surrounded by 100s-1000s of people. There is order and structure under all that surface chaos and it purely exists due to tradition, mutual respect, and an understanding that the chaos is what we make it.", "Editing to say I'm dumbass and nevermind", "I got caught in a crowd surge at Ozz Fest when I was in high school. Same as you I was picked up off my feet and carried forward like 20ft. Scared me to death, I thought I was going to die. Ended up being smooshed against a chain link fence that was being pushed flat with me on it.", "Exactly. I don’t know how many times people have picked me up off the ground and shielded me from a trample and vice versa, we’ve stayed till after shows looking for phones, wallets and shoes etc... THOSE are the people I want to be around and I love. They’re nothing but open and caring from my experience.", "Eyewitnesses seem to think he was aware there was a problem but ignored it:\n https://www.insider.com/travis-scott-astroworld-pleas-to-stop-festival-ignored-eyewitnesses-2021-11", "Was anyone else in here at Woodstock 99? Seemed like everything that could go wrong at a concert/festival did at that one. Worst concert experience of my life.", "I'm just quoting the guy who said he would punch people if someone else pushed them into him", "Like... half of them.", "That looks fucking miserable", "Noel is generally nice to his fans, but you want to hang out with Liam!", "That seems extremely crowded. I have never in my life been to anything even remotely this crowded and I’ve been to plenty of concerts. I just don’t understand…", "Cringe.\n\nPlease, feel free. So long as you're behind me. :)", "Just remember - they were supposed to play Roskilde the day after the disaster. I could have easily happened during their show instead of Pearl Jam.", "Pretty much.\n\nIn my experience the worst crushes/waves I've been in have happened immediately preceding an anticipated show. Late arriving diehard fans want to be closer so they start a surge with the goal of getting themselves closer, with no regard for the consequences of what happens to the fans in front.", "I remember hearing some time ago and explanation for this. Bands in the UK found that while they were selling out at home, but didn't do so good in the US, despite their music being equally well-received (this was before the Beatles and the British invasion).\n\nIt turns out that in geographically smaller nations it is much easier to tour and set up concerts that people from (relatively) far away can travel too. Take New York state - it is has the 7th densest population in the US at 159 people/km^2 , the UK has 270.7 people/km^2 .", "It's a symptom of Weezer", "Why does it happen in the first place?", "Echoing comments. I saw MGB at a curling rink in Vernon. Stopped right in the middle of Hello Timebomb when people were throwing shit on stage.\n\nI would actually like to see Matt again, cause for reasons outside of the band's control, this concert sucked", "We always forget people are 80% liquid", "Went to Bamboozle in 2008. It was raining. The steam rising out of the crowds was strange, until moving into one. The amount of force applied to people in the front was unbearable and the only way out was security pulling people over the front barricades. There was no going backwards once the crowd had you and after 5 mins I could not breathe.", "He didn't stop the show tho. He continued on for the whole set despite having ambulances driving into the crowd and all kinds of other issues.", "Ah, just seen it as the main story on BBC news. My bad :(", "Bruce stops gigs if he sees people smoking weed at the front lol\n\"hey you, yeah you. put that shit out. \"", "Same, ACL a few years ago, it was super hot and sunny. A doctor friend and I missed the whole set because we were trending to mostly females who had passed out and were set to the side of the stage where we were at. EMS was on the other side taking care of all the ones over there. \n\nAfterwards we were like, uh who was even on stage? Fun can get real serious very quickly.", "Turn up the Sun", "I've been on crowd control safety courses and this is the video they showed. The pressure that wave created pushed the security barrier forward by a couple meters and broke metal fixings. Crazy nobody was seriously hurt here, Kudus to the band for stopping and asking people to move back.", "\nWhat I’ve noticed most in these large crowds videos, people in large numbers are psychotic assholes", "Punk, metal, lots a scenes with reputations for intense pits yet people take care of each other. Shit, even when I've been in the pit at a Slayer show everyone who got knocked down was immediately attended to and helped up while people made sure they didn't get trampled.", "it was previously thought that the max speed of this phenomenon was the speed of cannonball, but this footage shows speeds far in excess of any known cannonball.", "Wasn't that Roger Daltry? Iirc he called it out because of some allergies and the smoke was interfering with his throat.", "Architects actually use fluid dynamics to prepare for large crowds. For example, an exit that could be anticipated to be used in a large volume might have columns constructed on either side of the exit to reduce the amount of angles people can approach the doors, effectively making the flow through that exit more laminar and less turbulent.", "The difference between watching Tool in ‘96 vs watching Tool in 2021.", "People just keep inching forward and forward. It’s a domino effect.", "Also, the smell of BO already makes it hard enough to breathe", "By Axe", "Thats the opening to Grand Teacher Onizuka, holy shit did that hit me with a huge wave of nostalgia.\n\nbrb, gonna go binge classic anime songs I heard for the first time 15 years go.", "I went to a Tool show around 2012ish. It was about 50/50 between people jumping around and chilling. In my opinion their music is ideal for listening with your eyes closed. Just let the music wash over you.", "“A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky animals, and you know it.”", "They became stadium rock acts pretty quickly because their music connects so well with large groups. A lot of anthems about the collective experience so it’s fun to be around others who feel that too.", "Someone found the one moment Oasis didn’t completely suck! Kudos", "I heard Matt Good saw an ice cream truck and he walked off the stage", "Dude, after that you can't fucking tell me he's not a worthless piece of shit. You don't just start \"\"\"singing\"\"\" \"yeeeh yeah yeeh\" while a fucking body of a kid is crowdsurfed off your concert. Like, you are supposed to feel bad. If you have the slightest empathy you'll need a minute or two to recompose.", "It moves like water does,,, wow", "Lying on the floor!!!!!", "The Chinese are probably worse in this regard tbh. Lived there for eight-ish years", "There's a reason why we don't have clips of other artists singing while a dead body is taken out of the concern.", "i expect to see this video pop up in my feed any day now", "they also lived through the time of the Hillsborough disaster, as avid football fans they are well aware of the dangers.", "The only tribe I need is my Subreddit and Facebook group. Ban all those who disagree!", "Millions of leeches. Leeches for free!", "Crazy surge I was in at riot was Yellowcard 2012 or 2013 (I can't remember what year)\n\nMy buddy and I were in the way back, just figured we'd catch a, couple songs to kill some time. Idk what the hell happened but suddenly the surge brought us to like the middle of the field. We. Moved way up. Was annoying cause we didn't plan on it and thought we were far enough back it wasn't gonna be an issues.\n\nRiot always has crazy surges. 2014 was fucked though, between the rain on that Friday making everything a thick mud and them being forced to use a different end of the park with a shitty footprint they were screwed and unsure how to deal with foot traffic even small surges were inevitable.\n\nAlso, if your a fan of the fest. Come check us out at /r/RiotFest", "Sounds like you ingested something pretty bad and maybe cracked a rib or two.", "Most of these people seem to be caught beneath a landslide.", "Honestly the crew for the stage should have total control over this by law. Able to shut down the sound system at will if they see something out of order.", "It's not that. I just thought the brothers had broken the band up.", "I thought they broke up. They in fact did, but it was later on and I guess they got back together.", "So glad I didn't bother seeing them that year since I caught them a few weeks earlier at the Denver fest. RiotFest always has crazy surges. Blink182 in 2013 I believe people left in ambulances. Misfits in 2016 had some crazy ones. Shit Yellowcard had a small one that moved me from behind the sound booth to the middle of the field. 2014 had even worse issues cause of the mud. \n\nI'll never get in the crowd for the bigger headliners anymore at riot. Just anit worth it.\n\nAlso check us over in /r/RiotFest if you're a fan", "1 star?", "They were huge almost everywhere. A lot of people (in particular Americans, where they were only briefly big) don't realize just how enormous their fandom got to be.\n\nI mean, they sold over 70 million recorded worldwide. That's an insane number that puts them up there with some of the biggest of all time, and they did it over a shorter period of time than a lot of those other bands.\n\nIn the UK in particular, their popularity was (and maybe is) mind-boggling. Something like 22 straight top 10 songs, giant concerts, etc.\n\nSaw them in 1995 in a tiny club with a capacity of about 800, but they must have packed 1,000 people in there. It was a mob scene and was the second loudest show I've ever seen (the loudest being My Bloody Valentine).", "Because its fun? People do things they enjoy.", "I'm beginning to see a pattern in the types of concerts where the band/group actually cares about their fans vs those that dont.", "To be fair, Travis Scott was trying to help at some point. He could have helped way more. Should have done way more. Lots of people to blame here.", "They were still huge, especially in the UK. They were touring for a top 10 album that went to #1 a bunch of places and sold over 7 million. They were done in the U.S. by this point, but worldwide they were still one of the biggest out there.", "A lot of people, actually. Oasis remained a huge live draw throughout the 2000s, especially in their native England. But 2005 was a bigger year for them than they'd had in a while.\n\nPart of it was mid-90s nostalgia among those approaching 30, but that era was actually seen as a minor return to form for the band. Their 2005 album \"Don't Believe the Truth\" was their most commercially successful effort in the US, UK, and the rest of the world since 1997 (outpacing their 2000 and 2002 studio releases in every country & selling roughly 6 million copies).\n\nThey played some of their biggest US shows in the summer of '05 (sold out a short string of 15,000 and 20,000 capacity arenas in the northeast) before coming back to England for three sold out nights at the stadium in the video above. Over 3 million people in 28 different countries saw Oasis on that tour, with an average attendance of 30,000 per show.", "When I saw them for the Lateralus tour in the Seattle area, Maynard straight up mocked the “moshers”.", "Wasnt it the World War Z book that mentioned the zombies breaking down walls with a \"wave\" of bodies?", "Thanks mate", "\"NO KARATE IN THE PIT\" \n\n\nUnless you're at a show where it's the norm, everyone fucking hates that shit.", "It's either he goes by Travis Scott or by his real name, Jacques Berman Webster II", "Yeah but that's also on the organizers liveevent. They are not getting near enough flame. But that's what happens when they got a monopoly on this shit lol", "Yep. It seems my Drakkar Noir isn’t welding here either.", "It's funny it's taken Americans so long to look in the mirror.", "What causes a surge to happen?", "So the barrier is the wonder wall", "Why people are so obsessed with others who wouldn’t even piss on them is beyond me", "I can see the enjoyment, but I would still be scared.", "Gets the crowd hyped by just standing there", "I understand what you’re trying to say, artists do have a responsibility to perform and to keep the show going. The thing is though, Travis Scott is notorious for starting riots at his show and not giving af. Watch his documentary on Netflix. Part of the opening scene is him getting arrested after being told multiple times by police to stop the show because it was getting out of control. Did he? No, not at all. He told them to go harder and made it wildly unsafe for everybody in attendance. It’s become part of his brand, he relishes in the glorification of his recklessness, his fans love him for it. He knows what he is doing, he is fully aware of exactly what could happen. He’s not sorry it happened, he’s sorry that his actions finally caught up to him. \n\nTravis Scott will get zero sympathy from me for being so fucking reckless at his shows.", "Part of me would love to be there, and experience that atmosphere, but still, if I want to get out, I would feel like I wouldn't be able to. Claustrophobic me says, no.", "Thanks for sharing that.", "Yeah, Billy gets a lot of shit from the fans and just people in general but this proves he is a decent human being.", "Exactly. I never knew who Travis Scott was until this, and I'm sure he's a pos going from what I've seen and learned from his track record - but with all that said, a crowd should be able to get as rowdy as possible and still not result in a crush (and I mean a crush specifically) where there are 6 or more people per square meter, and they are unable to disperse. This is poor management of space and distribution of a crowd.", "The smaller dubstep crowd does it too. I was at a rager in Chicago and this big dude just cold clocked this kid in the face. Everyone picked him up, contacted security, and got his ass thrown out.", "i know americans never got oasis, but you massively underestimate how big oasis / the gallagher brothers are, were, and will probably forever be in their native country.\n\nin the UK, their 1995 album \"what's the story morning glory\" is in the top 5 biggest selling albums ever. Even in 2021, it is still the #23 most streamed/bought album in england this year.\n\nboth brothers have had hit singles even after oasis' split, their albums are still instant #1s, the relationship drama between them still plays out in the tabloids, there's a huge cohort of british teens who weren't even alive for any of the 90s that are massive oasis fans today.\n\n\"that one brother\" announced two outdoor concerts in the english countryside for the summer of 2022. all 160,000 tickets sold out in a few hours.", "Every concert I've been in the midwest US has been sectioned up exactly like that. Of course the numbers were much smaller (like 20,000 total attendees per concert).", "Holy shit that is mind blowing to watch", "Yeah this past incident has turned me off festivals forever I think. I've always done the smaller rock gigs, where you can easily walk off the side or back. Those are way more fun and intimate, imo.", "But maybe you're gunna be the one who saves me?", "No cell phone service. You can barely move. You can't sit so you're standing for several hours. Lots of drunk rowdy people. Constantly being squished. Can't go to the bathroom. People fainting etc. Not fun at all. Also apparently gun shooting scares happen a lot which causes stampedes, happened to me at the 2019 Toronto raptors champion parade.", "r/meatflow", "From our understanding of how these incidents happen, we really shouldn't see them as actions of individuals in the crowd. It's purely a matter of density. When this occurs, people move as one, through no autonomy of their own and the movements just magnify as people lose balance or fall down (leading to a crowd collapse as people are sucked down into the gap created, from the sheer force of the people pushed around them).", "“Time to play everyone’s favorite game, move back! When we say move back, you move back.” -Jerry Garcia", "Dude I was there pretty far back and remember how long they stopped playing for. Multiple times. People would not calm down. Good thing they did stop though.", "Reminds me of Pearl Jam at Roskilde Festival 2000. I was a fair distance from the front, and it wasn't packed at that point - still there was lots of movement forwards and backwards.\n\nI had no idea it was killing people at the front. Left shortly after the music stopped, not understanding how serious it was; I didn't find out until hours later.", "Man, this is exactly how I remember it. I think it was 2 times and they said they'd end the show if they had to stop it for a third. \n\nI was in the pit when it collapsed in on itself and I think that's what preceded this video. I definitely remember being pushed around with no control of where I wound up, but it did seem like everyone in the crowd was doing their best to keep people upright (or lifted out if needed). Lost one of my shoes and never saw it again. Saw them at voodoo in 2007 about 5 rows from the front and Lolla was way more crowded. \n\nThere was a bunch of gate crashing prior to this set too. It was intense, but RATM knows how to handle a rowdy crowd. Can't wait to see them again.", "The more I see these after the astroworld tragedy, the more I'm happy with my decision to pay for seating at every concert I go to.\n\nMy brother prefers to be in the pit and thinks I'm missing out but I'm a 5'3 very weak asthmatic female. I'd rather be safe than dead.", "I was there too. What a night. I didnt realise how bad it was there probably because I was leathered at the time. Never seen this video before", "I can't fault an entertainer who operates under the maxim \"the show must go on.\"", "It's truly rare the number of times that you have complete assholes at metal/punk shows. To the point that they really stand out. Occasionally it's some obnoxious kid who just doesn't know any better yet, but usually the drunk guy looking to start shit.\n\nI've seen a tiny 12-14 year-old girl with a Hello Kitty backpack just go hard as fuck in the pit before, having an amazing time. Everybody was looking out for her.\n\nOr one time at Earthless when I was up at the front and the woman standing next to me turned over and asked in the most polite way possible \"Should we start a pit?\"\n\nGroping crowd surfers has been more of a problem at other types of shows, in my experience. It was a local alt-rock band where some dude just shoved his entire arm down the front of a woman's pants. I don't recall exactly what happened there, but people fucking noticed.", "Theres a few angles here...\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UstTe4Mw910", "It was! And one of the very few things I liked about the movie was their depictions of the zombie movement. It got silly with the wall climbing, but otherwise pretty neat!", "I see someones a hyde fan.", "I've been to a lot of festivals and concerts. Surges like that don't just happen. It caused by aholes in the back trying to push to the front. Every surge is caused my people pushing.", "I forgot about Frank Turner! Gonna have to give him a listen again, that'll be some great nostalgia.\n\nGotta say, I've only seen him live once as an opener, probably 10+ years ago. Wouldn't have ever though any of his shows would have that type of crowd experience you describe.", "Exactly this. I was at Pearl Jam at Roskilde Festival 2000, where this kind of surge led to several people dying. I was a ways back from the stage and it wasn't packed at that point, but there was lots of movement back and forth. And it wasn't like people were just \"fuck yeah let's charge forward like crazy,\" it felt like some kind of feedback mechanism just started from normal movement and spiraled out of control.", "How can you tell that this person hasn't simply fainted?", "I agree that any person who knows that there are people dying at they’re event, has full knowledge that they’re able to do something to deescalate the situation, yet does nothing because they simply don’t care, should be held partly responsible and charged to the full extent of the law. Whether this is the case with Travis, should be investigated.", "I'm kinda glad I listen to boomer metal. The audience at these shows are older and know not to fuck around. One of my favorite shows was when I was standing next to Pete Sandoval after he played and Nile was up. Pretty cool honestly.", "Hindsight bias. People are fainting and get carried away all the time at concerts.", "Wow, I've never seen that interview. \n\nFunny thing is, I was at what I think was their very next show, and I was the Alan Magee, sticking my hand out at Liam, saying, 'have you got anything for sale?' but he said 'no'. They hadn't even done a demo at that point.", "fucking christ reddit is obsessed with artists stopping shows. i get it but holy shit it's getting real old after the 6th post.", "I think some of them also backslide into their worst habits as they get more successful and feel like they can get away with it. There are plenty of acts that fail spectacularly at the \"show up on time\" part from Axel Rose to Lauryn Hill. But it stands to reason that they didn't start out like that when nobody had any reason to put up with it.", ">turned over and asked in the most polite way possible \"Should we start a pit?\"\n\nHahaha. Sounds about right.\n\n>some dude just shoved his entire arm down the front of a woman's pants. I don't recall exactly what happened there, but people fucking noticed.\n\nJesus fuck. Hope he got womped for that one.", "This kind of shit was happening long before the first Gen Z child was born.", "[Southern Poverty Law](https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2011/06/07/black-supremacist-nation-islam-pushes-white-dominated-scientology) Was happening well before SPLC got word of it.\n\n[FBI - NOI in BIG](https://torontosun.com/news/world/ex-fbi-agent-fingers-nation-of-islam-lapd-in-biggie-smalls-murder-report)\n\nI'll get the rest of info when off work", "When Liam and Noel Gallagher are less of an asshole then you, you got a problem", "I threw up a bit of blood at a Parkway Drive concert when i got crushed into the front security gate. Sure enough, cracked two ribs. That was the last concert I tried to be front and center in. \n\nGetting out of the crowd after I realized my chest hurt was probably the scariest moment of my life, id try to take a step and suddenly was moved 5 or 6 feet back towards the stage because if your feet werent planted on the ground you were literally swept up in a current of bodies. Scary stuff.", "Not to mention crowd surges did actually happen before 1997.", "I'm guessing you were stage left for that show. Stage right where I was it seemed like we avoided collapses for the most part. If I recall correctly each time the show stopped it was because people were getting fucked up stage left. Man it's weird recollecting a show 13 years ago.\n\nAnyways yeah the band and the culture they imbue upon the crowd definitely has a lot to do with whether or not things like this become deadly.\n\nThe other half of the equation is about stage design, adequate security and medical personnel who know what to do, etc. All of which I am both not an expert on nor do we know the full details of how/if Astrofest was prepared.", "Saw them at Voodoo 07 and Lolla 08, was in the pit for both.\n\nEasily the most exhausting experience I've ever had, and one of the most incredible. I'm a big dude (6'6) and can't fathom being short in that type of crowd.\n\nAt Voodoo, we posted in the pit probably 6 hours before the show (saw Galatic, BRMC, and Kings of Leon)...maybe left to piss once in that span, maybe had a bottle of water. Show was so nuts that steam was constantly rising from the pit. By the nights end, I was easily the most dehydrated I've ever been and almost passed out. Couldn't find anything open after the show that had water or bathrooms. Thankfully found a small wine bar owned by a gay couple that let us in to rehydrate (we were underage, sweaty and dirty, no fake IDs)...true kindness from strangers I'm grateful for to this day. \n\nIn my 30s now and there's no way I could handle that anymore.", "There is no \"real fun\". Different people enjoy things in different ways. Just don't be that asshole that insists that having your fun means you get to ruins someone else's.\n\nIt sucks being at a seated event and having to stand up the entire time to see just because some assholes in front insist on doing so.", "The exceptionalism propaganda was a bitch to shake off. Literally I was bombarded with it on a daily basis growing up in the public school system.", "If you haven't read [this comment](https://np.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/3pcvfb/saudi_arabia_hajj_disaster_death_toll_at_least/cw5vxtm/?context=3) yet, it's pretty fascinating. There is a point at which the density of the crowd is too much, and the crowd pretty much behaves like a fluid.", "Travis Scott bears some responsibility because he could get the crowd to listen, he's got the mic and their attention, but yeah you're right that's literally the event staffs job- not his.", "It doesn't matter if the water isn't free to flow and mingle. If you replaced the ocean with a zillion garbage bags full of water, you wouldn't be able to sail on it.", "I was in a crowd surge one time, and my feet didn’t touch the ground for 10 minutes.", "Seems like a reasonable response.", "I agree with his politics I guess but the dude is insufferable", "Yeah I remember that Pearl Jam gig, incredibly traumatic for everyone there I imagine.", "I hate this shit. If you didn't get here early and get a good spot like the other hundreds of people who have been standing and waiting for 3 hours, that's on you. Either stand in the back or wait to move up when other people start leaving.", "Yep, stage left, nearish the center. Good memory!\n\nI distinctly remember trying to find my shoe when the show ended. There was so much garbage on the ground that you could walk without actually touching the ground. Never found it, but did find a boat shoe that was my size, so I spent the rest of the night (and the next day at the fest) wearing one skate shoe and one boat shoe. Maybe the owner found my shoe and we traded without knowing it. \n\nHow my foot wasn't black and bloodied from being barefoot during that show, I have no idea.", "Travis Scott stops show to help fan\n\nhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ml9EGK5OaNo", "In a situation like this it doesn’t matter if it’s the most awesome people in the world, once everyone starts to go down everyone is fucked", "yeah isn't it like an open secret that a lot of people choose to wear adult diapers when they go to that?", "It was right at the start of the gig, so mainly lager!", "i was there! i am pretty small, especially back then was like 18/19 and my lowest adult weight.\n\nalso dressed super fabulously faggy as many of us college queers tend to do when we go on our own and try to figure our adult self out. crop top, painted nails, and back then jeans were still pretty damn tight and low rise.\n\ni vividly remember this tall very bro, looked 'straight' but that's just a bs construct of how people should look.\n\nhe purposefully stood behind me and pushed people back and held like the hunky tree he was. he was really nice too. props to him i still remember that and i don't remember much from that time.", "To be fair Man City Stadium is not used to such large crowds.", "So like why even go if it's not fun?", "That’s exactly what happened…\n\nHe stopped the show, and directed staff to a fan he thought was passed out, and continued once staff got there.\n\nFurthermore, everyone is assuming the video in question is a dead person when we absolutely do not know that right now.", "If I remember right, they just had walked out and started playing. Oasis immediately stopped the show,", "I’m not a big fan of concerts to begin with, but my wife and I have an agreement that I’ll go, but we either need seats or to hangout near the back if its a pit so we have an easy escape route.", "Nothing in that article supports what you said.\n\nThe fans attempted to notify cameramen, and tried to chant.\n\nNeither of those things even come close to guaranteeing Scott knew", "Liam Gallagher is one of the few famous people I've met. Besides insulting me for supporting Manchester United he was a gentleman. Really chilled.", "I bet you I can find plenty of artists continuing a show after a passed out fan is attended to", "You would have to ask the tourists. I don't know any locals that spend any time inside of Times Sq unless they walk through to get to work. Even my husband walks around that area when he goes into the office, haha.", "It's the same for any huge mass of tiny items. \n\nTake a ball, one ball doesn't behave as a liquid. Take a pool full of tiny balls, now they do behave like a liquid. Push a chair in that pool and you'll see the balls all pushing eachother out the way and moving around the chair like a slow liquid.\n\nThe 'behaving like a liquid' just means that any movement, any pressure, will move like a wave through the mass and bounce against the barriers that contain it. This happens at concerts because people are so tightly packed, they can't do anything. They get pushed from behind, so they push the person in front of them; they have no space to respond or push back. They even have to put in extreme effort to not fall, and not step on shoes, and not get your shoes stepped on. Plus it's extremely warm, loud, you get elbowed in the stomach a bunch... You don't know what to do, and even if you did, you're too busy not falling and getting trampled.\n\nThe rows in the back aren't really tightly packed, people there want to move forward (and no one expects anything bad to happen because there's still enough space to move around a bit back there). They're moving forward, so they're pushing other people forward as well, and before you know it, that push reaches the tightly packed crowd and suddenly no one can do anything to stop it. It turns from 'a bunch of people walking forward' into 'a sea of people moving with whatever pushes them, without any power to stop it'.", "Exactly that, he sings about photosynthesis and similar stuff it's hardly heavy music.(unless he has evolved his style?)", "And how would you like to defend his obviously lawyer-fed video response filled with crocodile tears where he doesn't even fucking apologize?", "TL;DR \"I don't like rock concerts\"", "PSA: A large gathering of people is called a fuck that.", "Too many people packed together. When they people in the back keep pushing in, there's nowhere for people at the front to go.", "Check, please.", "The person should've taken issue with the person making the statement, not the person quoting it. \n\nI'm now talking to a person, about a third person who's talking to a fourth person who quoted a fifth person about punching a crowd. What am I doing with my life.", "And water has memory!", "True but wouldn't you need a whole row of people in the back pushing in unison? It would have to be a coordinated thing to get a wide wave", "beautiful", "For sure, he came back 10 minutes later with ice cream. I still can’t believe this happened.", "Sounds terrible, hope you learned your lesson going to see Lorde.", "Yes it was, u/ffddb1d9a7 quoted u/freemefromyou", "There was a fatal crowd surge at castle donnington not long after the Hillsboro disaster back in the eighties,", "oh haha true, i gave up reading his comment too early", "now ffbb comment is funny\n\nmy b", "Sure, but peeps standing up in the seated area is to be expected. Agreed it sucks. Just like it sucks to have a taller dude stood in front of you in the standing area. It is what it is. But they're not assholes. They just want to enjoy the show their way and if you want to remain seated for that then that's your problem.", "Honestly event organizers and venues needs to be punished for allowing overcrowding at these events. It's 100% on them for ignoring safety precautions just to sell more tickets. Not to mention it's disgusting how much responsibility people place on the artists themselves to stop crowd surges when they begin, even though it shouldn't get that far to begin with.", "Damn all that COVID", "I'm sure there's a whole lot of people in the back who, when the band starts making their first sounds, come pushing forward towards the stage. To them, they're just pushing a few people who still have some room to share, but that push is continued onward because people generally push forward when pushed from behind, especially when it's unexpected.", "All it takes is a single car jamming on their breaks to start a traffic jam wave.\n\nIf someone trips and falls or a few mates push their way in the back it could be enough of a ripple effect as people try to get out of the way", "Yeah, it was pretty clever.", "True", "The smell of urine overwhelms all other smells don't worry", "At huge arena shows? Well first off, it's like going to the movies, you go to the bathroom beforehand. But otherwise if you need to go during a show, you leave the pit and go off and use the facilities. You can usually get back to at least 75% of where you were standing before.", "True they want to get closer to the stage so they'll all give a nudge froward unconsciously", "Was at that show. Got pushed over the barricade against my will and had to walk all the way around the crowd. Ended up roaming down to the other end of the park where Wilco were playing. Pretty opposite crowd vibe. Lots of blankets and wine", "Well with that attitude we'll never be royals.", "Well anyway, here's Wonderwall.", "If you want to stand the entire time, buy a floor ticket. Or even move out into the aisle.\n\nSaying \"that's your problem\" is the asshole part. \"My actions are directly impacting someone else. Should I change what I'm doing? Nah. Fuck 'em.\"", "Interesting. Yeah, I sometimes have to go quite urgently so I just could not do that.", "None of that proves anything. You have one anonymous alleged fbi guy saying sure knight hired a noi person to kill biggie. Corroborated by two anonymous filmmakers. That’s about the shakiest evidence I’ve ever heard. There’s also no mention of Scientology in this article and the other links between the two groups seem to be from much later.", "I agree, however, it shouldn't be the on-stage talent's responsibility. Too many organizers and venues pass the buck to talent and/or production staff to stop crowd surges but the reasons these surges start are due to decisions made by organizers and/or the venues themselves. e.g. overcrowding, limited or no crowd management, lack of or limited security. Things like these make surges far deadlier than they would otherwise be.", "\"TODAY! IS GONNA BE THE DAY!\"\n\n\\\\Crowd roars, everyone dies\\\\", "Dipshit, it’s like if I said “biggie smalls was killed because he thought tcby was better than baskin Robbins.” And when someone asked for evidence I told them to Google “baskin Robbins +tcby”.\n\nNot only do none of the links come up with any evidence for the claim, attempting to throttle discourse like this makes you a dick.", "Boomer metal 🤣🤣🤣 I dunno if i have ever heard that.", "I was at a Oh Sees gig in Cardiff that was oversold, totally over packed and highly unenjoyable due to the sheer lack of being able to move, breathe properly or see the band. The security refused to let me or others move to the exits when we started to panic and refused us water that was literally in bottles behind the guardrails. The band didn't encourage the crush, but they didn't stop playing or acknowledge it either. It pretty much ruined them for me.", "I was there the next day. Same thing happened again. They took forever to get on stage and when they did, people just went mental surging forward from the back. Only happened a couple of times and didn't really see anyone down or anything luckily. Everyone around me was cool as fuck looking out for each other.", "I don't think \"passed out\" means what you think it means. Or maybe you just don't understand the word \"dead.\"", "Floor tickets sell out quickly so peeps are left to buy seated tickets. That's how it goes unfortunately. They ain't gonna sit down just because you want to.", "Wasn’t that in Regina?", "I kind of wish Oasis would get back together. Where's the harm?\n\nI get that they hate each other. I'm not particularly close with my siblings. I had a band with my brother, and we don't talk anymore. If we were Oasis, I'd give him a call. Easy to judge from the outside I suppose.", "I have at this stage gone to thousands of shows including some of the biggest festivals in the world, multiple Lollapaloozas, etc, and I can count on one hand the number of times I've had to leave the crowd mid-show to go to the bathroom. I've had plenty of close calls waiting in line, etc, but the actual shows themselves haven't been a problem. You can also kind of train your body to not need to go, like when you are doing this stuff over years, your body kind of gets used to \"okay I just shut everything off for now\" response like some athletes do.", "Let’s be clear here: there is no way for an artist to identify whether a person is passed out or dead from stage.\n\nFurthermore, there’s absolutely nothing that we know right now that indicates the infamous video of someone carried away while Scott starts the show back up is a dead person.\n\nBased on what I’ve seen and read, I actually suspect that person was only passed out", "The crazy thing is that most people would stop the show, not just the handful posted all over Reddit now. It's the norm, and that's why Astroworld is so bad. They should have known.", "Usually they don't. We've seen him dozens of times which have all been beautiful experiences. But this one somehow went wrong IMO.\n\n\nHe's done some great stuff lately - I think you'll like how he's progressed!", "Not only the artist, the venue has the legal responsibility to safely hold the crowds it sells tickets for. That means safety stewards who know what to look out for an the power to stop things if they need to.", "Just noticed the ES has duel mini-humbuckers. It's neat to see that.", "Hah yea but even while doing the right thing, Gallagher still manages to be a dick.", "Still does!", "Literally the mentality that got people killed by Travis Scott's fans.", "MOJO in the Netherlands also has a good system. you have 2 front rows left front and right front m and behind that the main standing area. first come first serve and can stand in the front with a certain maximum preset capacity. They saved alot of lives of the years. and funny story. my landlord build stages in Belgium in the 80 through 90's and he copied the design of MOJO because he found that MOJO's barriers were overpriced. so he copied the design and made some alterations that made it easier to couple them together. MOJO wasn't happy.", "70-80% water, mate.", "Japanese Jack Sparrow putting on a show\n\nE: Thats a damn catchy song", "CAPTAIN Jack Sparrow", "I was at both those shows too!! One of the lucky few to see the Daft Punk Alive tour in person!!", "Now this is the dumbest comment in the thread.", "Anyone else travis scott bad?", "How does that even happen? I’m so confused lol like did 100+ people coordinate that or?\n\n\nAlso, how do they have a crowd this huge yet I’ve literally never heard of them", "Perhaps something can be said about the capacity limits if fans are trying to squeeze in.", "u/tscottworld watch this and then try again to explain wtf travis knows about moshing. he can’t control his crowd, his image/brand is rage, like you said, and he can’t stop the crowd. this is the problem. it’s unsafe, that’s why he gets arrested.", "Tragedy of the commons.", "Travis Scott burger", "ITT: People defending mediocre artists as though it takes massive popularity to understand that people can die in this shit.\n\nAlso I believe a fanboy in here showed a video of Travis Scott doing the right thing three years ago. Did he forget?", "That looks absolutely terrifying", "Humans are bags of jello and move as such.", "Was a decent human being, he seems to have pretty much lost it recently. Unclear if it’s drugs or just mental health but he’s off the deep end.", "I went to a show at Call The Office in London one time like that. Dillenger Escape Plan was playing. If so much as one person moved left, everyone moved left. If so much as one person moved right, one person would be thrown out the open door and into the crowd outside fighting to get in. It was something to behold. Great show.", "To be fair, it doesn't fucking matter if they've passed out, OD'd, slipped and fell, had a seizure, started doing pushups or took a nap. With that many people in the crowd, if you see someone go down you stop the show. Period.\n\n\"Putting on the best show for tonight\" is NEVER more important than somebody's life. What kind of fucked up logic is that?", "It is a very crazy and scary feeling. I've been in many large crowds usually stuck unable to move(two that come to mind are NIN at Riot Fest Chicago and Misfits Riot Fest Denver). Only once did I get caught in a moving situation like described. It was a Gorillaz show at an outdoor venue in Philly. The venue entrance design/location was terrible which was a big part of the problem. The gates had already opened and there were people inside when they had to evacuate due to lightning. They waited a bit and re-opened the venue. This is when the trouble started. Because it was an outdoor event there are strict time limits on when they need the show to end. So as they were letting people in the opener(Vic Mensa) was speeding through his set. By the time I reached the gate the Gorillaz intro was starting. As the sold out crowd pushed into the venue it reached a point where I noticed I was no longer walking voluntarily. The crowd had become a fluid as described in that comment. It was quite scary, luckily for myself I'm 6'3\" so I had my head \"above water\". Also my experience with large crowds helped me remain calm and know how to keep air in my lungs and my self from falling. Eventually I got to the clearing area toward the rear of the venue(the entrance was at the front which is part of my terrible design complaint), huge relief. Did not bother trying to get into the crowd after that, just enjoyed the show from the back.", "I looked him up, and got an emo dude. Then saw an article about his apparently very abusive past and the picture of him in the article looked nothing like emo dude. I was so confused till I realized they were different people.", "Basically people act more controlled, when they have to, also when slowed down...\nThat and other factors also make a highway carry more traffic at 60 mph than at 80 mph...", "The bartender serving the crowd was ever-present.", "Cries in irritable bowel syndrome. No, I can not train my body to not need to go.", "I've come undoooone", "Didn't expect to see this today", "At least they stopped the show, unlike that goofball down in Texas this weekend.", "Oasis are the best at telling the crowd to fucking stop", "Horrible barriers, they should've used a Wonderwall.", "I didnt see them leave stage in the video?", "I was there as well. My wife was knocked over and no one helped.\n\nWhen it happens at a rock show, everyone helps.", "Punk and Metal crowds are the best. Picking someone up or hold them so they don‘t fall is a reflex in those crowds. They really look after each other. Never felt unsafe once.", "Oh what has he been doing? I mean he was pretty nutty with adore and machina era with \"Glass and the Machines of God\" and that entire universe he was building up. Then there was his blog where he posted auto biographical stories. I have been disinterested since Zeitgeist, that album was just meh. But I thought he was just doing small GATMOG type stuff.", "My one and only experience on the floor of a big rock show and experiencing that exact feeling you're describing was also at a Weezer show in 08.", "And I mean, in this case it‘s Liam Gallagher who was the first to indicate to stop playing. And he is a verified asshole. When you‘re less responsible then Liam Gallagher you‘re simply a piece of shit.", "Yeah, I go to big metal fest in Europe, usually the crowd is not really split but there is rows of barrier to avoid such waves to travel, not strong need of social consciousness and no people dying...", "What a class act! I've never been a huge fan of RATM but I have huge respect for them seeing this video.", "In my experience Oasis take the record for having the worst fanbase I have encountered in all of the gigs I have seen.\n\nA crowd made up of yobbish football loving cunts who just want to get drunk and act like arseholes and who have no desire to watch a gig apart from the single song they know, and will spend the rest of the show annoying the rest of the crowd.", "Y'know, maybe it's irresponsible for a business of any kind to cram that many people into an enclosed space for basically any reason that isn't an absolute emergency.", "Ah yes well that would certainly be difficult.", "Yes, but imagine how much more money you could make in ticket sales if you just crammed a bunch of people into those empty spaces.", "a little?", "They probably made more in this night than a whole season", "Okay \"dying\" person you pedant.", "I was about to be upset that I like a song by him before I realized the \"90210\" that I like is by Wale", "His Hot Ones interview is probably my favorite episode, and I'm not even a fan of his music. Dude has charisma and is super smart about how he operates.", "Not dumping on the band at all... But I cannot imagine getting that hype seeing Weezer live.", "good point. thing is- its on the production crew to set up for success with crowd control, but an artist actively making it worse is just awful.", "Fuck you. Another week of having that fucking song stuck on an endless loop in my head.", "Fucking pit ninjas.\n\nThey are \"hardcore dancers\". I don't give a shit if you do that in a hardcore pit but keep it out of the circle pits.", "If you enjoyed the movie you'll love the book. The audiobook is even better", "Huh?", "I’m I allowed to start getting annoyed at these posts?", "I thought you were kidding, but that's actually his real name", "It's one of my favourite audiobooks, perfect blend of relative realism with zombies with so many memorable moments. \n\nThe Battle of Yonkers was really tense and made sense with how it played out, but on the flipside the kind of doctrine they had with mass-clearing of zombies later on was super smart.", "You're blocked for the slur.", "I was too busy having a massive headache to try any murdering :)", "I was a teenager who was heavily into nu metal. I didn't know better.", "He's apparently completely out of touch in terms of his present level of celebrity relative to its' height, and he now treats his fans like garbage; rr so I've been informed by those that have kept closer track of his career since the Melon Collie tour wrapped up.", "Before clicking the link: oh yeah I've seen that in some L'arc en Ciel performaces\nAfter clicking the link: oh yeah I've seen that in some L'arc en Ciel performaces", "Tramples and surges are 100% an engineering problem that needs to be solved, not something to just pass the buck onto the guys on stage yeah.\n\nThe venue / organizers need to be designing solutions that prevent harm while keeping the show enjoyable, but instead they try to pass the buck onto the crowd for misbehaving. That isn't going to work, and in a perfect world their lack of competence should cost them hard.", "I went to Warped Tour for years and other Rock/Alternative/Emo/Scene kid type concerts and while they do get rowdy I did notice an equal amount of respect when injuries would happen.\n\nAlternatively I would never go to a hip-hop/rap concert unless its at an auditorium with seating. I've gone to two in my life without seats and I regret the crowd interaction.", "All the while holding a _tambourine_", "Wow that really put this concept into perspective for me.", "Liam brother, Noel, was on Hot Ones.", "That's Noel you're thinking of. Liam is definitely not super smart about how he operates.", "They're cunts but nice cunts", "We get it, you don’t like rap", "Elaborate", "Who the fuck is Matt Good?", "I was trapped in one in Paris on Bastile day, it was the insane heat that got me", "As someone who can't stand crowds, can you explain why you would subject yourself to this?", "This happened to me at a Nine Inch Nails show years ago. I literally thought I was going to be crushed. I couldn’t control my body for a good 3-5 minutes", "Yeah it’s weird how the rules are all unspoken. I remember being scared of the pit at my first metal show, but my friend insisted I jump in.\n\nI got shoved to the ground almost immediately, and even though at 14 I was already 6 ft. 200 lbs. I was immediately yanked up by two Viking looking dudes. One said you ok bro?! After I told him yes, he asked if I wanted to go back in, I agreed to that as well, all the sudden feeling much more safe, and was launched back in to the pit.\n\nThere’s even unspoken positions in the pit. For instance the outer circle of people often act as bouncers, pushing people back in, or pulling people out who need a break.\n\nWe know we are being chaotic and violent, but we also know we are all there for a good time. It’s ok to get some bumps and bruises, but no one should leave a metal show actually hurt.", "Feakers Ball in 2003 after the second or third song when Marilyn Mandon took the stage, we had to stop for the same thing. Tried to move everyone back and fix the barriers. Halfway through the song, they broke again and had to cancel the show. Everyone was given the opportunity to get admission to the next time he came to Kansas City which ended up being like 7 years later.", "I cant help but think if they'd immediately stopped the Astroworld Houston show when it became apparent that people were in distress, and told the crowd to help identify victims to be evacuated, and as soon as they were helped the show would resume... that maybe the death toll would be less than 8 :(", "The Matt Good in question is the guy with the abusive past you read about. I honestly don't know enough about it to judge his guilt or innocence, and some of the accusations are a little vague. But he was infamous for being kind of a dick even before all that came to light.\n\nWhich is too bad, because he's a genius. One of my very favourite artists going back more than 2 decades.", "A handful of reasons, but I’m a big music fan so being close enough to see the band actually play is one. \n\nIn regard to RATM, it was historic. One of the biggest bands of all time (IMO) that had been on hiatus since I was in elementary school, and all of a sudden I had the chance to see them live. I HAD to be in the pit and it is easily one of the best experiences of my life. \n\nBeing closer to the stage makes you feel like a part of the show, all the better if the visuals/effects are there. \n\nPlus, there is a sense of being a part of something bigger when you’re in a crowd of that size that you don’t get when you’re all the way in the back. A lot of the more hardcore fans will be closer so you’re surrounded by like-minded folks. If its a good crowd then it’s a great feeling. If it’s a shitty crowd? No thanks.\n\nThe kicker is I’m a 6’6 man, so I can actually breathe, and I try to be aware of my surroundings so I can help people around me if they need it. If I was a foot shorter it’d be much harder.", "There were multiple of those at the Stone Roses Heaton Park gig in 2012, where pockets of us would end up on the floor. It was pretty scary. Every time it happened there would be a security guy that would stand on the barrier at the front and watch until he was happy that everyone was up.", "I love how this at once feels like a solution to the question, and then makes you stop and think, well, am I still the same person I was seven years ago? \n\nAt the end of the day it's all semantics and definitions, but it's at least interesting semantics and definitions that do tricky things with one another.", "I’ve been in crowds at small venue shows (GWAR is a perfect example) and literally had both of my feet lifted off the ground in surges. I am not a small man. \n\nThe thought of a surge like that in a crowd that massive literally gives me anxiety. I can feel my chest tighten up.", "Everyone flexing on Travis Scott", "Sure.\n\nTravis Scott, a self absorbed, narcissistic, asshole, only cares about his wallet, and gives zero fucks about his fans. \n\nOther artists, who don't think the whole world revolves around only them, care about their fans and their wellbeing. \n\nSelf absorbed pieces of shit should not be idolized.", "you dont have to be in the crowd and still inherit all the energy from it and cool people\n\nyou learn how to optimize your experience, for comfort, self preservation, and fun", "Crowd management helps but it's not that important. The most basic factor is people not trying to rush forward and steal someone else's spot. \n\nIf you see even in your example the cordoned off areas are relatively evenly spaced with people, which is super evident with the light sticks. You don't see that all over the world or at every type of music performance.", "I’ve been in a crowd like that where it feels like floating. My one experience where that happened was not one I realized was dangerous.", "All I can think is “Super Spreader Event”. Covid has changed my view of mass gatherings forever. That’s pretty sad, isn’t it?", "Someone who is passed out is not dying.\n\nMy point is that nobody yet knows if the person in that video died. Nobody\n\nA number of people passed out who did not end up dying", "Lol I thought the same that's why I opted for the floor that one time. I thought fuck it, it's just a bunch of geeks how bad can it get. Oh those fucking geeks raged.", "This video wasn’t a festival", "Imagine calling the pits at a RATM show \"little wild\". Tell us you've never been in a proper pit without telling us you've never been a proper pit. You deserve those downvotes.", "In a champagne supernova in.. no this isn't right", "Thanks Captain Obvious, what would we do with out you!", "People pass out and get carried from the crowd at almost every big festival. It's a very common occurrence. \n\nI've yet to see any confirmation that person was actually dead but their appearance doesn't match any of the victim photos. Regardless, the artist likely assumes it's an unconscious person being assisted (as it's common) rather than a dead body.", ">we saw footy hooligan types with their arms stretched out who were causing it\n\nWhy am I not even slightly suprised to read that...", "Lol I love the fact that everyone is digging up all of these instances of unruly crowds being handled properly just to shit on Travis Scott", "Oh we got em we just dont admire the arrogance as much. They are fine musically but wonderwall was always a super boring song to me and whiney sounding or too nasally or something. I think most bands that make it big would be hope the US audience likes their work way before they would care if it got the UK check mark. I know most of the greats come from your part of the world too and i like a lot of them but i think the arrogance far outweighed the talent of oasis. I know its just my opinion but thats how i feel about them and i would bet there are a lot of people in the UK that may feel the same.", "Fun fact he is a super, super nice guy. Struck me as being very genuine. \n\nFucking loves a good old fashioned, to be sure. \n\nI'm not at l surprised to hear that he would be looking out for the welfare of someone at his show.\n\n[Edit] I think I have the other Matt Good in mind, but the dude you guys are all talking about seems like a stand up guy as well", "The only time I felt unsafe at a show was when we went to go see Lee Fields. It was a tiny venue and they packed the fuck out of it. My partner is a total music show guy, he loves to be right up front. As soon as Lee Fields went on people LOST THEIR SHIT and started dancing like maniacs. I’m five feet tall and instantly I was up off my feet, I couldn’t feel the ground. Got separated from my partner. Some big college looking dude helped me out and put me behind him on this step type thing where I felt safe. Spent the entire show worrying about my partner. And this is Vancouver where we hate everything.", "I told him City were shit, which they were at the time. He enjoyed the bit of banter.", "I think SciShow has an episode about it.", "That’s how you start a gig", "Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me!", "The few times I've been at a big show and something dangerous happened, it's been the roughest looking dudes that have immediately made sure everyone is OK.", "petition to remove travis as performer at his upcoming shows\n\n\nhttps://www.change.org/p/aeg-remove-travis-scott-as-a-goldenvoice-performer?utm_content=cl_sharecopy_31287236_en-US%3A7&recruiter=1232710099&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=tap_basic_share", "Imagine getting called out for stealth deleting a shitpost, getting called out for the shitpost, pretending to not have sent the shitpost, repeating the statements of the shitpost, and then proceeding to stalk the person calling you out, because you suck at shitposting.", "Fuck that.", "My hot take is that the ‘rugged individualism’ idea is perpetrated by the rich and powerful to keep the working class down. \n\nI see a lot of younger people wanting to ‘make their own way’ - including myself. As I got older, I realized all the wealthy kids got it figured out and just depended a lot on their parents. Im not saying that they didn’t work hard, but their hard work goes a lot further. Made me feel like a sucker.", "Had this experience at an Oasis gig in Dublin when I was 17. In the mosh pit. The whole crowd surged 5 or 10m forward in less than a second. All of a sudden I was standing on top of a girl. I bent down to help her up and when the wave moved back I was down with her. I’m a pretty strong guy and with every fibre of me trying to get up I couldn’t. Fortunately I felt an arm and as he pulled, so did I. I dragged the girl up with me and got her to her feet. Between the adrenaline, heat, noise and loss of control over movement, it was completely overwhelming. I dragged her to the back of the mosh pit and she burst into tears. Her outfit was completely destroyed with footprints, her eyes were bloodshot and her nose was bleeding. She said she felt the life being squeezed out of her lying there.\n\nMy sister had been to a smashing pumpkins gig not too long before where a girl died in a crush. I guess we never learn.\n\nYears later I remember watching Game of Thrones and the Battle of the Bastards had a scene with Jon Snow nearly being crushed to death and then eventually emerging in a maul of humans. It’s the only thing I’ve ever seen which could capture the experience.", "It's also tripping/falling forward since you can't move your feet, like tons of dominos which are packed so tightly that they can't fall down completely. If you do fall down you'll very likely will by trampled upon.", "That's terrifying. Look at the force that it hit security with. They were pushed a whole steps back.", "lol I read the book loooooooong before the movie, that's probably why I have such a harsh view of the movie. If it was called something else I may have liked it! That being said I have heard a lot of people recommend the audiobook, is it fully cast?", "Well Indonesia is still pretty massive by the area it covers, it's wider than continental USA and not far off in top to bottom length - It just has a much smaller land area because it's an archipelago.\n\nThat said, the majority of the population is focused in Java with a population of 150 million on a small island.", "Fucking embarrassing for Travis Scott , guy was a pos", "I was there in the stands and it looked fuckin horrifying. Luckily they got it sorted and the rest of the show went off great.", "Also why video and light towers are usually placed as they are.", "The 11 million population figure isn't the whole story.\n\nJakarta is the hub for an island with a population of 150 million people, yet a smaller land area than the state of New York. Whenever a big musician or band comes to Java, they will often only have a concert in Jakarta and so there is a pool of 150 million people of which there will probably be hundreds of thousands who want to attend the concert.", "if they had something going on like venice i could see how that could be brought up as like a buffer, but yea im talking about livable landmass... \n\n\nand yea, youre right about java, but i would add that that island is a bit smaller than california, while california only has like 38 million people... gives it more of a wow factor lol", "Took that straight from Starship Troopers. Even the angle of the shot is the same.", "Yup! If you dont want to be a part of the pit, dont even linger at the edges of it. Stay at least two people back.", "That looks scary as fuck!! \nI've been lifted and pushed but never like that.", "Bruce Dickinson called someone out for it at an NZ show a few years back. Told the person smoking to \"put that shit out.\" \n\nI think he's just like that and has always been rather straight laced in regards to drugs and booze. \n\nIt was funny because us kiwis do love a good puff so the other people smoking joints in the crowd just kinda lowered their joints and held their breath for a bit until he resumed singing. Plenty of spluttery coughing fits were heard.", "Was caught in one at Reading 2013\n\nWaiting for Chase & Status to set up (no music even playing lol), which would then be followed by Eminem, ~80,000 people attending, that shit was unstoppable and very scary.\n\nC&S also ended up stopping the show a couple times due to how ridiculous the crowd were being, us at the front were being seriously crushed. I reckon I saw ~200 people carried over the front barriers for medical attention throughout the show.\n\nShow was still wild though, great set and appreciated them trying to keep the crown under control", "They use baffles in tanker trailers to reduce the sloshing that can make the vehicle hard to handle. This seems like the same concept to prevent crowd surges.", "I was at this gig and stood on the pitch to the right of the stage, also it was 2 July not 3rd.\n\nIt was going crazy even during the PA songs just before they came on, they played I Am The resurrection and it was like the stone roses themselves were playing live there was such a reaction.\n\nAnyway, what you don’t see in this video is the 20+ minute stand up routine that Noel did for the crowd whilst they fixed everything, got everyone to calm down then proceeded to play a great show.\n\nMe and my mates got stuck in Manchester as we missed our train home due to the delay but spent all night at a Mr Scruff set in town. Good times.", "They split in 2009", "The band split in 2009", "I had a friend tell me it happened to them at San Diego Comic Con, to the point they were literally lifted off of their feet.", "I am surprised nobody died. It’s a recipe for a disaster.", "Wow a lot of people showed up to hear wonderwall", "It looks like a good portion of the Worlds population was there. That's the biggest audience I think I've ever seen holy shit.", "I misread your comment and thought you wrote that you enjoyed the movie. But yes, it is fully cast. \n\n Max Brooks as The Interviewer\n Steve Park as Kwang Jingshu\n Frank Kamai as Nury Televadi\n Nathan Fillion as Stanley MacDonald\n Paul Sorvino as Fernando Oliveira\n Ade M'Cormack as Jacob Nyathi\n Carl Reiner as Jurgen Warmbrunn\n Waleed Zuaiter as Saladin Kader\n Jay O. Sanders as Bob Archer\n Dennis Boutsikaris as General Travis D'Ambrosia\n Martin Scorsese as Breckinridge “Breck” Scott\n Simon Pegg as Grover Carlson\n Denise Crosby as Mary Jo Miller\n Bruce Boxleitner as Gavin Blaire\n Ajay Naidu as Ajay Shah\n Nicki Clyne as Sharon\n Jeri Ryan as Maria Zhuganova\n Henry Rollins as T. Sean Collins\n Maz Jobrani as Ahmed Farahnakian\n Mark Hamill as Todd Wainio\n Eamonn Walker as Xolelwa Azania / Paul Redeker / David Allen Forbes\n Jürgen Prochnow as Philip Adler\n David Ogden Stiers as Bohdan Taras Kondratiuk\n Michelle Kholos Brooks as Jesika Hendricks\n Kal Penn as Sardar Khan\n Alan Alda as Arthur Sinclair Junior\n Rob Reiner as \"The Whacko\"\n Dean Edwards as Joe Muhammad\n Frank Darabont as Roy Elliot\n Becky Ann Baker as Christina Eliopolis\n Parminder Nagra as Barati Palshigar\n Brian Tee as Hyungchol Choi / Michael Choi\n Masi Oka as Kondo Tatsumi\n Frank Kamai as Tomonaga Ijiro\n John Turturro as Seryosha Garcia Alvarez\n Ric Young as Admiral Xu Zhicai\n Alfred Molina as Terry Knox\n John McElroy as Ernesto Olguin\n Common as Darnell Hackworth\n F. Murray Abraham as Father Sergei Ryzhkov\n René Auberjonois as Andre Renard", "After this week I’m scared of ever going to another concert", "I remember Oasis at Slane in 1995 (supporting R.E.M.) there was an almighty crush near the front where I was, really scary seeing people unconscious under a collapse of bodies. Band stopped a couple of times too. How nobody was killed that day I'll never know.", "attention deficit such a good album top to bottom", "Why do people go to shows like this tf", "How does the presence of intact front barriers prevent a surge? Wouldn't barriers just guarantee that people get crushed against the barriers themselves?", "a sea of anything is a sea\n\nthat's physics", "Unless it’s Elon Musk or Keanu Reeves.", "One of the most overrated bands in band history. Ghost is in the same stadium as this band. Terrible.", "This whole show was fucked up. There was a security guard who got injected in the neck with fentanyl or something. \n\nThe guy passed out and they narcaned him.\n\nhttps://www.foxnews.com/us/police-confirm-astroworld-security-guard-likely-injected-drugs-stabbed-neck-needle", "100% with you on this. I've been to a grand total of one concert in my life. Small venue. Still wasn't a fan.\n\nI hold the same policy for tattoos. I literally don't care enough about anything to get it permanently affixed to my body.", "That's not quite how the expression goes but you get a B for the effort", "The vast majority of artists do this, don't know why I keep seeing these videos (probably to take advantage of a tragedy & farm karma) when Travis Scott is the one out of a hundred.", "Anyway here's wonderwall", "You are literally me.", "While that's all awful, I'd pick human waste freezing dry on me over human waste getting on me on a hot day.", "Fuck Travis Scott", "Too new it seemed it kept the crowd mellowed out so the person could be carried away", "Circle pits fuck, there’s nothing like a good push pit either", "The difference between this and Travis Whatever his Name is... Is that these guys are actually musicians", "Hate to be That Guy but this is nothing like what Astroworld’s crowd looked like - many of those people were there to fuckin riot", "A band that cares. \n\nFuck. Travis. Scott.", "“Sing”", "Obligatory r/fucktravisscott", "Videos of bands halting performances for safety are so fucking hot right now.", "You're not die hard if you're late. Just a selfish prick.", "[Travis Scott did the same thing](https://youtu.be/Ml9EGK5OaNo)", "That's the only Matt Good I know. Wtf is fftl?", "Typical Reddit users not realizing your comment is a joke. Bunch of sheep I tell ya.", "People trying to gain karma because of other people's misfortune.", "Astrofest was a complete disaster on all accounts. \n\nI know that most of the medical staff didn’t know much and I’ve seen an interview where a med student helped out after passing out herself.\n\nThere weren’t enough security staff to handle that crazy crowd and also me - being a now ex-fan of Travis, have seen the IG posts in the run up to astrofest. HE BRAGGED ABOUT GIVING MORE TICKETS THAN THE ORIGINAL ALLOCATED NUMBER. Guess he figured that some fans missing out wasn’t fair which ended up costing some of their lives. NRG park might have been good as a venue before he gained popularity but now he’s one of the biggest artists out there.\n\nIf you want to find out more about Travis and his encouragement of breaking the rules I suggest you watch his ‘look mom I can fly’ documentary. You’ll really get to see just how much he doesn’t give a shit about the safety of his fans. And praises them for being reckless. Talk about poor reinforcement. Jeez.", "He still does", "I love Noel's commentary while the crew is fixing the barrier lol", "I wonder if that is his persona or truly him. To be fair us fans are pretty vile and toxic. Like I said, I used to be super in to them before the \"reunion\". I was sourcing VHS tapes and releasing them as well as building splra.org. my favorite releases were the psycho tape (and that was a crazy story), and \"VH1 storytellers complete\". I also had a line on the \"Pulse\" tape but left the community while searching for it. \n\nAn old pumpkins friend of mine has been uploading old releases to YouTube, here is vh1 storytellers complete. I had synced the matrix audio release with it but honestly don't know what audio he used for the upload. Probably the matrix as the source audio sounded like butts. https://youtu.be/-pJNscKg8qs", "WASNT EXPECTING OASIS, MY FAVOURITE BAND", "It's rough. I'm a 5' chick and I love to be in the thick of it, but it can be fucking terrifying. Over the years I've learned to either post up at the very front where I can A) touch a barrier and B) see security or just deal with it and start on the fringes, maybe work forward if the crowd is under control.", "Where's my free award? Literally my first thought on seeing this post.", "Is this because People are idiots?", "No barriers or separations in the crowd area. That's so fucking dangerous with a crowd this large.", "I genuinely had no idea that many people cared about Oasis", "Say it ain't so!", "Okay two questions One what the hell is going on? Are people just pushing each other to get closer which is causing this huge wave? And second why is it they allowed that many people In the concert? That seems extremely unsafe.", "I was at Warped Tour quite a few years ago, and one of my friends wanted to see Attila, and when they stared playing the crowd surged towards the stage. It was pretty scary. Luckily some larger guy saw my friends and I panicking a bit and he grabbed us and cleared a path for us to get out.", "Overall I do agree, I prefer small venue for the talented artist I like but, i will say that chanting or singing along with 50k other people is a feeling like no other. Especially if it's on cue. I still get chills thinking about some shows I've been to.", "Holy crap that's a star studded cast! I loved the book so I'll for sure have to give this a listen. Thanks for sharing!", "That's actually a cooler name than Travis Scott.", "I was at that rage show. I was maybe 20 rows of people from the front. During testify my feet were leaving the ground without me even jumping. I actually passed out briefly about halfway through the set due to being squished between so many people. Luckily someone helped me get to the back and I ended up getting water somehow. I remember rage stopping the show like 4 or 5 times to try to get the crowd to chill out. Insane show.", "Ohh this [comic](https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/the-wireless/373065/the-pencilsword-on-a-plate) really encapsulated your comment.", "Totally agreed. Singing Hey Jude with 80k other people + Paul at Bonnaroo was unlike anything you can get at a smaller venue. That said, I'd also love to see McCartney at a little spot with only 200 of us because that would be fucking insane in other ways", "Oooooooo that does sound good!", "I am going to fact check this, not like I need an excuse to watch star ship troopers again!", "Similar experience for me at a Rancid show. I had to fight my way out of there. Someone clawed my back because I stepped on her foot. It was chaos. When I finally got to a safe area this girl smaller than me thanked me for doing that because she was able to follow me out. I had no clue she was even behind me.", "That's right, I've never place myself in a position where I'm any more than 30 seconds away from the nearest exit. This is just mad.", "Lets implement a capacity rule, no?", "Not sure if this was done on purpose but here's an interesting timelapse\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wjt1aOivMY", "It's a symptom of these mega acts. You get a ton of people who never usually go to gigs, so they don't have the pit safety ingrained in their mind.\n\n \n\n\nPeople who are going to punk shows or the like are more likely to be in to the music scene and attend regularly. They also don't (usually) draw the mega crowds so management is much easier.\n\n \n\n\nThat said, by the time I hit 25 I realised it's way much fun to just stand towards the back of the pit - I can go to the toilet and grab a beer within one song. If I'm in the pit, my drinks getting spilt and I have to be that annoying guy pushing in and out. And you still get the feel of the pit that you miss going to the seated area.", "I’ve seen so many examples of this on r/PublicFreakout and this to realize that Travis Scott just doesn’t care and is a giant asshole. Fuck him and his music.", "This date also holds another special meaning:\n\nThe last time there was a crowd at City's stadium.", ">The middle seems to be a safe spot at any show large enough to have a central tent for sound techs.\n\nI was at the Love Parade in Germany and passed through the spot where the stampede happened maybe half an hour before. \n\nMost of the deaths were near the stairs / exits as, once panic set in, everyone tried to get out and pushed towards the exits. \n\nThough with such crowds you can not really choose where you want to stand.", "That's pretty funny. \"He's not looking lads, light up again\"", "If we're talking about Travis Scott, then yes, that rap man is indeed bad.", "Travis Scott take note.", "Calling Oasis a class act is kind of a stretch. ;D", "Japan really does a lot of things well. Also, thanks for the unintentional music recommendations, haha.", "Are you being serious ? In the UK they were HUGE, they were the Beatles of the 90s", "If there were that many people at my free concert, I’d seriously regret not charging more for tickets.", "Cheers!", "Implying that Travis isn't bad is a massive reach. ;D", "It’s crazy how openly people will karma whore the deaths of children, hundreds of these videos man", "How does going to a concert compare to getting a tattoo? lol", "My memory of this gig was that it took ages for the barrier to be fixed and Liam and Noel were telling jokes on stage", "Yeah, it was about 30 mins, IIRC.", "Could have been another death event, if not for the band. I don’t think relying on a musical act’s awareness or moral compass is an acceptable safety mechanism. Clearly we know how to avoid this, yet so many times crowd surges happen anyway. In the past 24 hours, I’ve read multiple stories on Reddit from a range of concerts where people experienced a crowd surge, where they thought they were going to die. \n\nIt’s wonderful there were no severe injuries or loss of life in those cases, but it does not seem acceptable to me; if conditions for a crowd surge were met, planners were already negligent. I know there are effective precautions, but are they legal regulations? Does any kind of governing agency check if these precautions are being followed? What’s the preventative recourse here? \n\nAsking because I sincerely don’t know. But our plan should not be that if death happens, we get to sue them. Most other industries and practices don’t get to function strictly in the reactive like that.\n\nFrom the amount of case examples and personal stories, it seems like it’s not surprising that deaths occur - only that it doesn’t happen more often. This is not an acceptable risk for people to need to take just to have a few beers and listen to some damn music. I would say that the music industry seriously needs a come to Jesus moment, except that some of the worst death events occurred 20-40 years ago, yet crowd surges still seem common in the last 20 years - so I don’t think this terrible tragedy will be that come to Jesus moment either, unfortunately.\n\nAlso, I wish more people understood crowd surges. Especially frequent concert-goers. The number of people who have opined about mosh pit etiquette and concert etiquette here and elsewhere…with respect, going hard on that is adjacent to saying a girl got assaulted because of what she wore. It’s victim-blaming. Etiquette is relevant to the people who jumped on ambulances or booed people trying to stop the concert, but at that point, it was already a death event. \n\nConcert etiquette has nothing to do with crowd surges or crowd collapse; I don’t want to hear about all the concerts you went to where people were nice to each other. People in the crowd surge were about as nice to each other as they could be, given the circumstances, but at that point it was literally out of their control. If you go to concerts frequently, you should know that can happen and guessed it was the culprit here - especially because it seems like concert organizers are frequently prioritizing money over lives, so it could happen to you.", "Is there a difference? I've always just used circle pit and push pit interchangeably.", "Yeah, I'm being serious. I grew up in the US in the 90's. I don't know...they just weren't on my radar.", "I’ve seen that at almost every single festival or large gig I’ve ever been to. It’s not exclusive to people who go to watch Oasis.", "I think it might the type of music you like, I can’t remember seeing it at any other gig I’ve been to 😂", "Which version do you recommend getting? Aren’t there like 3 versions of the audiobook out? I’ve read a lot of reviews with people complaining that each version of the audiobook release brings more interviews or testimonials but also leaves out some that a different audiobook version has…", "Man, look at Oasis back then. What a crowd they could gather. I bet even Noel is missing it some days.", "Seems like him. The story about him treating fans badly was him with about 20 superfans. He raffled off having lunch with him, and then expected them to pay for him. Super tacky and unaware at best.", "I mean there is the famous hotdog incident during the Zwan era. I still have a video of that somewhere.", "Ive only ever heard the full cast audiobook so I cant say anything about the other 2. But the it's really good, you should definitely give it a shot.", "Yeah that was hard to watch.", "I’ve always separated them in my head, like a push pit is just everyone pushing each other and then a circle pit is everyone movin in a big circle with the middle kinda clear of everything but crushed beer cans", "Oh see I always just thought of that as \"the circle pit when that riff drops\"", "Did I ever say that though? Ohwait, I didnt. I simply called that guy out for calling out all hiphop.\n\nCheck his post history.", "One person in the back trips into a group that falls into twice as many people. I imagine that's all it takes in this size.", "A lot of fans elsewhere would not respect those tiny barriers.", "True, like it's exponential", "Yea now that I'm seeing all the stuff come out over the weekend, he's a piece of shit", "No, they want to share their opinion - they just don’t want to hear anyone else’s", "I saw them on that tour. Their drummer died like the day after the philly show" ]	693	videos	Oasis halt show due to huge crowd surge which breaks the front barriers at Man City Stadium - 3rd July 2005
https://youtu.be/tKoL0nInbQc	/r/videos/comments/qon0u9/power_washing_ac_after_6_years/	[ "Just to be clear, do NOT power wash the fins. Light pressure only or you'll flatten those things. \n\nAs shown in the video, you can use a garden hose.", "Recommend calling a technician to do this cleaning usually. The blower wheel needs to be removed and coil cleaner needs to be used if it's this bad. Cleaning it this way just forced debris further into the coil or gets jammed in the blower wheel.", "Facts. There is a video demonstrating to high pressure wreaking havoc on the fins.", "It's incredibly simple but okay", "Any time you have to bend the evaporator coil away from the housing to remove a wheel becomes not so simple." ]	5	videos	Power washing ac after 6 years.
https://youtu.be/5oL8twqF-wg?t=827	/r/videos/comments/qon3c0/the_right_way_to_do_a_freaking_festival/	[ "What by inviting pedophiles to play on stage lol", "That song gave me cancer", "yikes", "Haha yeah what i was about to say", "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Watkins_(Lostprophets_singer)?wprov=sfti1\n\nConvicted pepohile", ">In 2013, he was sentenced to 29 years of imprisonment for multiple sexual offences, including the sexual assault of young children and babies\n\n\nJFC", "“Soliciting for sex with a 1yr old “ ……. That’s when I decided if I ever seen him free, I would gladly spend my life in prison as punishment for ending his existence…." ]	7	videos	The RIGHT Way to Do a Freaking Festival
https://youtu.be/ZeiMhUlipTk	/r/videos/comments/qon55i/the_girl_with_the_three_minute_memory/	[ "Seems like the only saving grace is she does eventually learn stuff, even if it takes a few months. Can't even imagine what it's like for the parents.", "Her dad talking about trying out the same joke and figuring out the best way to deliver it had me dying.", "The father is an absolute Saint.", "bBut thats the thing it's not dementia, she's more or less 100% lucid within that 3 minutes timeframe and what long-term memories she has, she more or less retains. She's independant enough to go out alone and have a job. What an interesting condition in any case!", "It would be quite unique if they made reaction videos. \nHow would the reactions differ to the same experience over time?\nWould we experience the moment of her remembering she saw it before?\n\nIt's difficult to imagine how consent to publishing things would work though, and other ethical aspects.\n\nBecoming famous to the extent of having a fanbase could make her life more difficult in many ways.", "Is ADHD equivalent to anterograde amnesia?", "lol fucking no", "Her positivity is inspiring. She seems like a lovely person.", "In terms of inattention & poor working memory, I'd say the problem of remembering/making long-term memories is similar, but arrived at via different neurological means.\n\nHowever! There is a rare form of \\acquired\\ ADHD that can develop as a result of brain trauma.", "Memento is a good example of anterograde amnesia. One of Nolan's finest work.", "Remember Sammy Jankis", "Well it's at least better than just having a seven second memory\n\nhttps://youtu.be/k_P7Y0-wgos", "Wow, when the day comes and someone close to her dies, it must be hell on earth \"hearing\" it for the first time multiple times a day for months on end until she has it in her long term memory.", "I experienced that when I was taking an anti-fungal medication and then smoked weed at party, no joke. Somehow that anti-fungal medication exacerbated the normal cannabis-induced amnesia extremely. I could not have a conversation. I'd get to this point over and over again and where I'd have to say, \"Aaaand I have no idea what I was just saying.\"", "I hope she doesn't start looking for John G's", "Her being so cheerful and easy going is an interesting contrast to those other people with perfect memory. Apparently they struggle a lot with things like forgiving someone they've been upset with and overcoming grief.", "My grandmother had dementia, and up til the very end she would be super happy constantly. My mom would walk into the room and she would light up. She would see a pretty car (she always liked cars) and she would light up and point at it. Cat would jump on the table next to her and she’d go “oooh look!”\n\nI guess she was a special case. Always happy", "Can't remember anything 2 be upset about", "I had this issue for a day or two after a concussion a couple years back. Couldn't form new memories, my wife was super worried until I kept cracking the same stupid jokes over and over again - then she felt better that at least I was still myself. The nurses kept asking me if I knew who the president was at the time, and my answer was always \"Oh damn, unfortunately\" \n\nStill have no idea what actually happened to cause it - my father saw me walking my bike all covered in blood when I cycled ahead at the end of our weekend ride. I'm pretty sure I'd be dead if I wasn't wearing a helmet", "Funny follow up to this too - got a call from a collections company about an unpaid medical bill a few weeks back (don't think the hospital ever sent it) and I was looking over the doctors names and charges and had no idea what the hell it was for... I told the collections lady that I didn't remember that at all, then finally recalled the accident was around that time and realized that I was indeed correct... I didn't in fact remember it at all!", "My dad had dementia for maybe the last five years of his life and one of the blessed reliefs was that it revealed his inherent niceness.", "Same! The best dad joke ever!", "I doubt it would be any different from a normal person. Its not like she remembers that she is hearing it for the first time over and over again. For her its the first as it would be anyone else's first time hearing about it. It would be hell having to be the one telling her over and over again though.", "Reminds me of these series of skits https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=C6ufImch00g", "It would need to be handled carefully, but I think she could give consent. The test for capacity in the UK is as follows:\n\n- understand information about the decision\n- remember that information\n- use that information to make a decision\n- communicate their decision by talking, using sign language or any other means\n\nObviously, remembering the information is the challenge. It could be condensed down into a sub-three minute conversation, or possibly broken up into more in-depth chunks, with a brief recap at the beginning of each 3 minute session.\n\nEdit: And I agree that having a fan base could be a challenge - although in some respects arguably less so than for someone with a typical memory - but having capacity to make decisions includes making decisions that others feel might be unwise.", "This is what my grandmother has. She got it in February 1981 when she was 36. She had a cold, and then one morning woke up not recognizing her kids. She had a 107 fever sustained for a good while. She hasn't done any interviews or anything like that because my grandfather didn't want her to have to go through that.", "I hear you, but, wellllll...how do we know this might not have adverse impact on her beyond what a person without her condition would experience? We kinda don't, right?", "This girl doesn't...", "There is a similar case out there of a guy who suffers from the same fate, only he does not learn stuff, and he forgets things way faster. And he's been through that for literally decades now.\n\nThere's a documentary out there about him. While this has a bit of a feel-good vibe to it because she is so positive, that documentary is utterly terrifying.\n\nHe, too, keeps a journal, in an attempt to remember things. He wakes up, writes down the time and writes \"I'm awake now\".\n\nThen, he walks away, does something else, returns to the journal, reads what is written, crosses out what is written and writes the time, and \"I'm awake now, the above line is a lie\" and walks away again.\n\nHe spens hours upon hours writing the exact same lines in his diary over and over again, always believing that the last lines are all lies written by someone else in his handwriting.\n\nAt one point he's asked \"Where do you think you are?\". He was in a care unit. His answer is \"You are the only people I've ever seen since I've been ill. I don't know this place. I must be in hell.\" The way he just matter-of-factly said that, like it is the most logical conclusion to come to, was just completely terrifying.\n\n[Here's the documentary](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_P7Y0-wgos). There are so many frightening scenes like that in there.", "There's another documentary of a different, much worse case [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_P7Y0-wgos), if you really want to get properly scared of how life can work out sometimes.\n\nThat case is about a man who's lived with this condition for decades, only he does not get better at all or form any long term memories, and his short term memory wipes even faster, in less than a minute.\n\nHe, too, keeps a journal, in an attempt to remember things. He wakes up, writes down the time and writes \"I'm awake now\".\n\nThen, he walks away, does something else, returns to the journal, reads what is written, crosses out what is written and writes the time, and \"I'm awake now, the above line is a lie\" and walks away again.\n\nHe spens hours upon hours writing the exact same lines in his diary over and over again, always believing that the last lines are all lies written by someone else in his handwriting.\n\nAt one point he's asked \"Where do you think you are?\". He was in a care unit. His answer is \"You are the only people I've ever seen since I've been ill. I don't know this place. I must be in hell.\" The way he just matter-of-factly said that, like it is the most logical conclusion to come to, was just completely terrifying.", "=(", "i kept thinking there was something on my monitor but apparently it's the video, i think it might have been a speck of dust on the camera lens", "There is also an indian movie called \"ghajini\" which was inspired from memento", "That's two more minutes than I'm going to need...", "It's interesting that with extended memory (her notebooks and the whiteboard) Claire is able to carry out her normal daily routine more or less okey. It is interesting to speculate how extended memory (may be computer-based systems) can aid normal humans in carrying out complex projects, work with \"hyperobjects\" or \"wicked problems\" that are beyond reach of normal unaugmented humans.\n\nI think this is a very fruitful area of research for cognitive science/psychology, except that it's very speculative and scientists don't like speculation. They prefer to study something that exists, not something that might exist. This speculative form of research is even beyond the so called \"action research\".\n\nIf anyone has any links to such research, I would be very interested to know.", "I don't know if I'll be able to watch this. Just the little blurb you gave was enough to set off my anxiety.\nIt's such a terrible fear if mine to just loose memories like that.", "A very neat Anime I watched years ago tackles this sort of condition in a similar fashion. Journals and all. [One Week Friends](https://myanimelist.net/anime/21327/Isshuukan_Friends), [Preview](https://youtu.be/psjonQjQ-DY)", "What could’ve been a really interesting documentary was just too annoying to watch after a couple of minutes. Between the camera movement and the music, I couldn’t deal with it.", "Hi, I'm Tom.", ">The nurses kept asking me if I knew who the president was at the time, and my answer was always \"Oh damn, unfortunately\" \n\nIt's so weird how politics are so deeply ingrained in the American psyche that this is the go-to question. You're not asked, for example, who the prime minister is in a Canadian hospital; it's always the date, time, do you know your name, where you are, etc.", "oh god, if that happened to me, my dick would fall off", "For those interested in brain dysfunctions, I highly recommend \"The Man Who Mistook His Wife for a Hat\" by Oliver Sacks.", ">Memento\n\nRight, when he said \"If you've ever seen the film...\" my brain automatically filled in \"Memento\" and I was a little horrified.", ">You try to gain experiences in life. And your memory is how you record them...\n\nThis very simple idea made me pause. What if I could remember nothing of my life, or what I had achieved? \nThe best way forward would be to enjoy the moments I suppose. Do positive things. Be cheerful. Enjoy the little beautiful things around me. And not to worry.", "Love how positive they are", "That sounds pretty terrifying. I wonder what the experience is like for them because it seems like they relate differently. Like it may be terrifying, and if so, maybe for different reasons, because we can think of our memories and reflect on our life and imagine losing all of these things. \n\nIt's almost like imagining space, its mystery and its scope.... there's a term I remember learning one time, that specifically thinking about this can cause people severe anxiety. It's almost a similar sort of eerie feeling with this.", "My mom once had Global Temporary Amnesia, where her memory was stuck in a two minute loop. Neurologists don’t understand its cause, but it only lasts a day or so.\n\nShe had been out gardening on a hot day, and walked into the house confused, I thought it must be heat stroke or dehydration. I had her lie down, and she said, “ I don’t know what happened, I just had dizzy and feel awful”. I got her some water and a cold towel for her forehead. English isn’t her first language, but she’s completely fluent, and I noticed her grammar mistake. Two minutes later she repeated the same sentence exactly. Then, four minutes later, same sentence, same mistake. I said, “yeah, I know, you said that already”.\n\nSix minutes later, same sentence, same mistake. My dad was there now, and I said something like, “something’s really wrong here. I’m calling 911” thinking it might be a stroke. My dad said, “no, not yet”. 8 minutes later, same sentence, same mistake. I ignored him and called 911.\n\nThis continues all day at the hospital. Every two minutes her memory resets. From her perspective, she suddenly finds herself in the ICU and very reasonably wants to know what’s happening…every two minutes. I answered pretty much the same way every time, except once or twice when I was exhausted. She’d say “what’s going on, why am I here?” and I just had to explain, “You’re having some sort of neurological event, I could explain it to you, but you’ll forget…and I’ve already told you dozens of times so I’m going to take a break, ok?” She said, “Oh, ok….but what’s going on? Why am I here?”\n\nIt only lasts about 10 hours fortunately and leaves no permanent memory damage. \n\nRadiolab had an interview (the title is “[Loops](https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/radiolab/articles/did-i-miss-my-birthday-darn)”) that covered the same phenomenon. Coincidentally, the woman in the interview was also gardening on a hot day…and was from the same town I grew up in!", "You gotta love the dad, he is so freaking positive, in spite of the circumstances, it's so heartwarming!", "Was scrolling to find this comment. If I didn't see it I was gonna a post it. You beat me by half an hour.", "What happens when her dad dies or he has to spend time in a hospital?", "You were just super high off some good weed, I've been there before. Nothing to do with the anti-fungal.", "Man this MAKES me want to watch this. The human mind is so curious to me. It sounds terrifying but it makes me also wonder what patterns he has noticed - one being writing. He knows where to go write and to continue to add to that list, even though he doesn’t remember who wrote the previous line…. That desire keep writing is what is peculiar.", "> He spens hours upon hours writing the exact same lines in his diary over and over again, always believing that the last lines are all lies written by someone else in his handwriting.\n> \n> \n\nHow does he know how to write if he cannot learn stuff?\n\nEdit: Sorry pals, I cannot see the video, I'm in a public space and I don't have headphones", "There was probably a point in his life where he had a functioning memory, and either an accident occurred that gave him brain damage or a recessive gene kicked in later in life. So he can probably remember what happened before that occurred and so retains those skills, but can't form new memories.", "Didnt watch video \n\nBut if she has a 3 minute memory, would it be a good idea to talk to her for 5 minutes every day. At the 2 minute mark always remind her where the conversation is and at the point continue to do so.\n\n\nTrick our stupid brains ( she could very well be smart, but our brains are assholes)", "My SO's grandma was the same way. Watching her slowly slip away wasn't easy but there was something comforting about her being happy(and thankfully polite to the assisted living staff).", "He retains (some) of his memories and all of his skills from before he got ill in 1985.", "So you prefer to be a stranger to your child? When you wake up to your son asking who you are and what you are doing there? Having a patent with Alzheimers is already a heavy cross to bear because you say goodbye a little every day, how hard will it be to not even to give the love you want to your child?", "That’s the thing, he does sort of learn things, he learns layouts of buildings, and seems to have vague concepts of the time and stuff even if he can’t really remember why, which I find really interesting", "Just keep your memories tight and you won't have a problem.", "No sorry, I was more referring to that second case. My bad for not being clear enough.", "He doesn't forget how to do things he did before the illness. He still knows how to talk, how to write, how to eat, and how to play music. But he can't form new memories.", "The situation you describe is one where I think you could have people philosophically debate whether it is more humane to kill him or not and you wouldn't feel good about either answer.\n\nPersonally, I think I would want someone to give me too much morphine in my sleep.", "You're completely wrong. I'm intimately familiar with pot, and one of the side effects of that medicine was memory loss. Look before you leap.", "Seems like a wonderful dad and girl. I was crying and laughing watching this. Its remarkable how they can be so positive in a situation like this and that is a a real inspiration for all of us.", ">I'm intimately familiar with pot\n\nSo am I, I've been doing it since '98. What you described has happened to me dozens and dozens of times. Like an extreme version of walking into a room and forgetting why you went there.\n\n What was the medication?", "> Reminds me \n\nLook at me i have a fancy long term memory", "He does the same with magic tricks, as its easier to practice on someone who hasn't seen it before", "I don't remember the name of the drug, but it made things smell unusual and no pot has ever affected my memory as much as when I took it.", "Time stamp at 17:12 for the lead up to the diary stuff, which is at about 18mins in.", "Similar to [Clive Wearing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clive_Wearing)", "I watched the video but forgot what I was watching 3 minutes in.", "The man with a 7 second memory. Absolutely scary and fascinating. Poor guy. Hear him saying, \"I don't know these people. These are the first human beings I've ever seen in my life.\" Over and over again. Brutal.", "My Old Man tells the same stories over and over. He has hubdreds...when they pop in his head he talks. \n\nHumor him and he'll think you're great. \n\nThese two could be BFFs.", "Don't believe his lies", "I don't know of this indie director called 'Nolan', but this condition is very much reminisce of the blockbuster movie known as Finding Dory.", "Never forget to remember!", "The optimism of her and her father is so wholesome.", "[ Jump to 17:12 @ The Man With The Seven Second Memory (Amnesia Documentary) \| Real Stories](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_P7Y0-wgos&t=0h17m12s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: Real Stories, Video Popularity: 97.70%, Video Length: [48:01])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@17:07](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_P7Y0-wgos&t=0h17m7s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^\| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)", "Is it fair to judge someone's character from a minute long interview? What if it's the first time she's had a camera in her face? I know if I were in her position, I would be nervous as hell and act like a weirdo.", "Yeah I got this for a day or so from a concussion some years ago. They told me I just surfed the internet on my phone for that whole time (they did not let me sleep due fear of having a bleeding in my brain). Youtube/reddit/news/etc on the internet can keep you occupied for a very long time if you don't remember what you read 5 minutes ago. They also had to put a piece of paper in my pocket telling me the phone was on the table in the charger instead of that pocket as I kept on asking where my phone was.\n\nAlso would most likely be dead without a helmet according to the doctor.", "Is it about Clive Wearing? the link you gave isnt available for me", "Yeah, it is.", "It would be absolutely crazy if that woman turned out to be your mother. That'd be a bomb shell of a tale, wouldn't it?", "How does he know what hell is?", "Existential dread?", "That girl is so sweet.\n\ni hope she meets someone nice that can do the 50 first dates thing with her\n\ni do wonder what she does about films and stuff", "> Then, he walks away, does something else, returns to the journal, reads what is written, crosses out what is written and writes the time, and \"I'm awake now, the above line is a lie\" and walks away again.\n> \n> \n\nthis is like something from eternal sunshine of spotless mind", "I have that.", "some people with adhd are like this", "when did your mom recover from it?", "What’s the song at the end?", "that doc is restricted in the uk for some reason", "sounds like he is in fact in his own personal hell. \n\n&#x200B;\n\nat least he can't remember how lonely he has been...", "He retains (some) of his memories and all of his skills from before he got ill in 1985.", "Oh, absolutely I have, but I can tell you that a good amount of those judgements were completely incorrect.", "Love that they find humour and happiness in such a terrible affliction. They barely stopped smiling the whole video.", "Remember Samy Jenkins", "P. Sherman, 42 Wallaby street, Sydney.\n\nI feel guilty remembering this", "It’s called “Shark Smile” by the band Big Thief.", "the most horrifying part of it imo was him tearfully leaving multiple voicemails to his wife because he thinks she's never visited him since losing his memory, just minutes after she's left", "You could've just written it down and let her read it each time lol", "I can’t imagine basically waking up having sex with someone because you forgot you were doing it. Like the way she slowly forgot how she was counting and then found it again vaguely but had no idea still. If you don’t remember the person then it would be really really weird.", "I wish lol by the time I go to google something I forgot what I wanted to google.", "His brain was attacked by a virus. He knows that certain events occurred but has no memory of them. Some of his brain is intact and it appears that some of it may be inaccessible. He is in distress and finds it difficult to move past his own distress. He compares it to death. What could be more important than your first memory ever? It is always his first memory though.", "He appears to retain the knowledge gained from experiences but not retain the memory of them.", "50 first dates really is a decent movie", "And then I sit there pissed off, furiously thinking over everything I’ve done for the last 10 minutes trying to figure out just what the fuck I needed to google.", "Amazing book, incomprehensible problems! The food on the plate issue, cannot get my head around it.", "And you can’t ever just forget all together you always remember that you forgot. Not what you forgot but the fact that you did forget something. Torture", "Not quite, what you're describing is anterograde amnesia. He's also suffering from retrograde amnesia, so he's lost memory from before. What seems to be less affected is his procedural memory, so he can do tasks like you mentioned (reading, eating writing, playing music), but it looks like a lot of what he says and does is continuing to be \"saved\" in procedural memory. That's why he often gives the same or similar answers to questions and the style in which he keeps his diary is the same as previous entries even though he has no memory of writing them. It's incredibly interesting and tragic.", "It's so weird how politics are so deeply ingrained in the non-American psyche that this is the go-to respond.", "That's the part that really got me. He sounded so scared and alone, begging her to visit no matter how late at night it was that she could make it.", "It lasted about 12 hours.", "I liked his book Hallucinations.", "In American hospitals we also ask the name, date, time, location. Sometimes it helps to ask if they know who the President is for further clarification on their mental orientation. We usually have the other information (date, time, location) visibly displayed in the room, so the patient can \"cheat\" when answering orientation questions. I assume this guy was with it enough to be able to look at the board on the wall that says what the date is and parrot it back, which doesn't give a good picture of the status of his memory loss. Also, I know there's some particular doctors at the hospital I worked at who just liked to ask the president question instead of the date. I don't know the correct date half the time either, so it's probably an easier question since the president usually doesn't change for at least 4 years lol.\n\nI'm Canadian hospitals also have a similar question, possibly even asking who the prime minister is.", "It's all you can do really. What happened happened, just try and cope with moving forward. Plus being british helps. Stiff upper lip and that.", "this describes hell to me", "There's two docos about him, the one you linked is a later one to follow up from the first in 1986 called [Equinox: Prisoner of Consciousness](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqiw2nx6gjY&t=1)", "If nothing else skip to 46:09 and listen to what his wife has to say about him.", "She should play minecraft", "very interesting ..", "Probably owed money to some dangerous people", "In an earlier documentary his wife mentioned that they noticed that he started writing on random pieces of paper laying around early on, so they gave him a diary to write in.\n\nFrom the content of what he wrote, he seems to become conscious for the first time in, well, ever, realizes that something very special and/or very bad is happening, realizes that - since he cannot remember anything whatsoever about his immediate past - he might lose his consciousness at any time, and thus decides to quickly write down the time and his immediate thoughts before he forgets everything again. Maybe to help himself remember, maybe in the hope that he can be helped better that way.\n\nAll of that is eerily logical and rational, in a way.\n\nAnd then, after all that, he opens a diary laying around, and reads his own handwriting that he definitely did not write himself, with the time and some random thoughts. So he gets annoyed about those obvious lies, crosses them out and writes the truth instead.\n\nAnd he's been doing this for over three decades now.", "I always say I was attacked by a pack of bears, no one can prove me wrong!", "They tried “do you know who the Queen is?” but it wasn’t very helpful", "He's the one", "My grandmother has Alzheimer’s/dementia and she gets overwhelmed by emotions easily. When we go to visit her, sometimes she doesn’t remember who we are, but she’ll start tearing up because she understands we’re there to visit, and visits are good things. It’s really tough though. The last time I saw her, I was trying not to tear up and plastered a big smile on my face so that she would know I was happy to see her. She looked at me and said: “you’re so sweet… I don’t even know who you are”\n\nWe’ve gone through a few rough phases with her when she would get upset. But I’ll take any kind of happy response I can get and treasure it forever.", "Dangerous gay men", "They cuddle well after the beating at least", "So you do remember me?", "Reminds me of the movie '50 First Dates'. Although, in the movie she can remember a day's worth, then forgets the next morning.", "I wish!", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IQE0uZUMys", "\"A convoluted red form with a linear green attachment.\"\n\nThe title character attempting to identify a rose Dr. Sacks had given him.", "Surprised no ones mentioned the movie 50 first dates.", "He contracted herpes simplex encephalitis which caused damage to his hippocampus", "If she only has a 3 minute memory I don't understand how she isn't questioning where she is every three minutes. And she also remembers that she was told by her roommate what happened to her.", "You tried.", "The point is that it is a strange go-to when there are tons of other contextual questions to ask.", "Like what? What question would you ask that a vast majority of people (in the US) are going to know the answer to and can help doctors get a grasp of their current orientation to time?", "The most interesting part I found was that when he was younger, he would get extremely angry when it was being proven to him he had no memory. He nearly attacked his sister for \"inpersonating\" his real sister.\n\nWhen he grew older, he was able to accept this old lady was his sister. He no longer was mad that it was illogical that his handwriting in his diary that he \"didn't write\".\n\nYet, just as interesting is how he is so much in love with wife as he was when he was young.\n\nI think this shows how feelings like anger are chemical responses that aren't quite as strong with age, yet feelings like love can stay just as strong. I know that sounds corny but I really see that from this video.", "You aren’t following context yourself: OP said it was so weird how people in the US have politics so ingrained that this is the go-to question.\n\nIn other words, we are acknowledging that (in the US) this works and that, to us, it is weird. Here you would not ask who the leader is and what you would ask is based on whether you had a loved one nearby. We have large lists of questions to ask for various situations; basic ones that I could spit off the top of my head are: Do you remember the season? What was the last holiday? How long ago was that? Do you know the Coronavirus? When did lockdown start? Similar type questions. \n\nThe president is good for knowledge/cognitive test and not great for time context since it can be an 8 year period. I understand it is your go-to in your country, it just is interesting how deeply politics is ingrained that it works as a gauge.", "The parents must be shattered. What an absolute disaster. My life would be over if this happened to me. I could never do my job without a good memory.", "It's a sliding window.", "> It's interesting that with extended memory (her notebooks and the whiteboard) Claire is able to carry out her normal daily routine more or less okey.\n\nDon't have research to link, but it reminds me of a story from the book The Power of Habit, when it discusses a man who has short-term memory damage like this. He'd been working with an expert at UC San Diego, and after a while of long distance travel to go there, his wife moved them close by. The researcher was doing an interview with him at that new house a few months after they'd moved, and the man didn't know where he was, and couldn't describe the layout of the house. The researcher noticed that despite this, when the man needed to go to the bathroom, he got up, walked to the bathroom, used it, and came back. Then the researcher would ask the man where the bathroom was, and the man couldn't tell him. So similar to Claire in this video, the act of doing something over and over can get stored into long-term memory even if short-term memory is damaged. He may not have had a conscious-level memory of where the bathroom was, but his subconscious did.", "We certainly ask those questions as well. I admittedly know nothing about how the government in Canada works and after some googling was mildly surprised to find that the prime minister is in office indefinitely? Since US presidents are limited to 8 years maximum I can see why it's a much more useful indicator than the prime minister of Canada who can be in office for decades at a time. I don't think it's necessarily a political culture thing but perhaps that question simply isn't useful in Canada.", "I don't think it's quite literally a simple 3-minute memory, the brain is complicated. That's just an easy way to explain roughly what it's like. For example, it seems like things she's in the act of doing - making food, going to the charity shop, working at the charity shop, etc, stay in the forefront of her mind - she doesn't suddenly stop and look around after 3 minutes and not know where she is at all. It's more that if you had a conversation with her 3 minutes ago, once it's over, it didn't get stored into long-term memory, so she no longer remembers she had the conversation. She can probably hold a continuous conversation for longer than that, because she'll remember the immediate preceding minutes, but if you talked with her for 30 minutes and then asked her about something you said at the beginning of the conversation, she wouldn't remember you said it.\n\nAs they say in the video, repetition and routine do make it into her long-term memory eventually - she learned the name of the dog after a few months. So things like what her roommate told her are probably stories that were repeated to her over and over in the early months when she was still unsure of what happened and kept asking about it, until it made it's way into her long-term memory.", "his wife is a saint. she truly loves him", "Three minutes is plenty of time.", "Or Adam S's", "I think that's one of the hardest parts to stay patient with, the constant repeated questions", "Comment to find later", "My mom got this too . She got bit by a mosquito and was in the hospital for 18 days . She didn’t know who anyone was , or how to even use a spoon/fork. She had to re learn everything and get to know the family . She has short term memory issues , and can’t remember names . A lot of people had the same thing at the hospital , but was never in the news . The doctor said there was a 90% fatal rate . This was about 15 years ago in California .", "The weird thing is that you could give the incorrect answer right now and people wouldn't know if you had mental trauma or were just delusional.", "Look, I could tell you but you'll just ask again in 24 hours.", "Thanks", "They're incredibly lucky that she seems so happy, I imagine it would be a much more difficult challenge if she were \"locked\" in an unhappy state of mind.", "Calling those comments from her a red flag probably says more about you than it does about her.\n\nThis is an eight minute documentary, probably heavily edited from hours of footage. I wouldn't put much weight on how anyone is portrayed in it, let alone start declaring red flags.", "i don't recall where i saw this, but it speaks to an emotional component of memory. there was another person who had this issue and the doctor pricked her finger with a pin after reaching out to make a handshake. she refused to shake anyone's hand from that moment forward. when questioned about it, she made vague comments on her rationale, one time saying \"you never know who might have a pin in their hand\" or something like that. apparently your brain stores things differently depending on how things effect you.", "Haha it’s not like a rolling blackout where she just exists for 3 min and then hard resets. Now I’m just picturing you with a stopwatch, timing it so you have exactly 3 min to make sure you hop on and hop off before the next reset.", "> 107 fever\n\nEesh. The thought of what a few hours at that temp would do to the brain is bad enough... but in 1981 with even fewer remedies.", "Yep. A lot of people exaggerate their fevers, but hers was a legit 107 (or maybe 106 to be safe). I've seen her hospital records. She's also had a scan of her brain and only about 10% of it isn't dead.", "I'm sorry. My parents are also in good health and so I fear a singular bad event. Did the doctors say anything about preventing it?", "I'm glad she has as strong support system, someone in her situation could be taken advantage of very easily and she wouldn't remember what happened.", "I think most dementia patients go through a happy and content phase, my Great-Grandmother certainly did for a year or two before she got really sick with it. She just kind of accepted it at first and just found the whole thing amusing (she was a generally happy soul before she got sick) but later on I think she was just overwhelmed and retreated into herself.", "It's Wallaby Way you fucking casual.", "the real test is that it was in Finding Nemo, not Finding Dory, you fraud" ]	169	videos	The Girl With The Three Minute Memory
https://youtu.be/9r7IMprYTCc	/r/videos/comments/qondw1/famous_grizzly_bear_399_and_her_4_cubs_kill_eat/	[ "What is she famous for?", "Video she made as a poor college kid about 10 years ago.", "A few reasons, actually. For one, she’s was the first bear in the area to take up “roadside bear” habits. Basically what this means is that she has learned that it’s safer to raise her cubs near the road and people than it is to raise them in the backcountry, because people won’t eat her cubs like male bears would in the backcountry. Second, she’s got an abnormally high reproduction rate and success rate with raising cubs. Lastly, she’s 25, and usually bears stop reproducing around 20. Even if they do have a litter, it’s only one cub. But 399 came out of the den at 24 with 4 cubs, and she raised all 4 to adulthood, something never before documented with a 4 cub litter until her. Basically, she’s scientifically the best mother bear ever documented, and she’s done all her parenting right by the roadside for visitors to see.", "This is really wholesome and interesting, thank you", "Joe Rogan jerks off to this.", "Super fascinating information. Thanks!\n\nIs there a reason that her own male bear cubs then don't decide to live by the roadside and then eat other mother's cubs, making the roadside bear habit benefit go away?\n\nAnd do he wildlife rangers want Grizzly's near people? It seems counter-intuitive.", "Males don’t really like the roadside for some reason. They just haven’t adapted to it like females have. Every once in a while you will get this big boar named “Bruno” who comes out and chases 399 and her cubs and has mated her in the past, but typically the males head for the backcountry once they leave their mother.\n\nAnd that is an awesome point and one of the biggest issues right now. In ways it is very counter intuitive, but it is a very complicated issue. Ill do my best to explain it briefly, but linked below is a video that covers the issue pretty well and is super interesting, I’d recommend watching.\n\nThis summer there were protests, petitions, tons of social media rage over the fate of 399 and other roadside bears. One bear numbered 863 was almost euthanized due to her roadside habits and the danger she presented, but a petition gained over 80,000 signatures to save her and Fish & Wildlife let her be. Just yesterday, 399 and her cubs were separated when rangers captured and collared the cubs. People were not happy to say the least. It’s been an extremely tense year in which a lot of these roadside bears have been euthanized (3 well known beloved bears were euthanized this summer) and rangers (mainly Fish & Wildlife, not so much National Park Service) and local bear watchers have been at odds.\n\nWhen 399 kicks these 4 cubs out next spring, given how accustomed they are to humans, it’s going to be absolute chaos and likely that some of them will be euthanized.\n\nHere’s the video covering the conflict over the fate of roadside bears: https://youtu.be/pd6IfmYi5F8\n\nAlso sorry for typing a damn essay, I just really care about these bears and want to make sure the right information is getting out there about them 😅", "It's entirely possible." ]	8	videos	Famous Grizzly Bear #399 and her 4 cubs kill & eat an elk calf along the roadside
https://youtu.be/W_K1l_lShDs	/r/videos/comments/qonp8c/kidnap_the_sandy_claws_with_danny_elfman_paul/	[ "Literally made my morning, I did not know this existed", "This is Great, loved Paul Reubens laugh at 3:38!", "[ Jump to 03:38 @ Referenced Video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_K1l_lShDs&t=0h3m38s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: lucid, Video Popularity: 99.14%, Video Length: [05:21])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@03:33](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_K1l_lShDs&t=0h3m33s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^\| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)", "Then enjoy [Oogie Boogie's song](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcNMxBNcEfg). Yes that is also Greg Proops as Santa Claus.", "Its always refreshing to see pee wee out there again.\n\nSociety did him dirty, compared to what other shit celebs get away with.", "Weird al’s jacket is the DRIP", "Danny looks so happy :)", "You gotta be old enough to even know what you are talking about.... And I remember it.", "Hell yeah. I lived for pee wees playhouse. Then opp no more.\n\nHes a bad man.\n\nThen i grew up and learned how things worked, and always felt bad for the guy.", "Yo Ken Page sounds even BETTER. HOW?", "u/MrFixemall, how do you think that fully literate man, Weird Al Yankovic, would feel about you calling him \"Wierd Al\"?", "What happened?", "He's like fine wine and gets better with age :]", "He actually came back to voice R3X from Star Tours again a couple years ago, he's DJ R3X at Galaxy's Edge at the Disney parks now.", "He would get people typing on a phone in the world of Autocorrect will still let typos go through....", "You think Al hasn't seen 'Wierd' before? Come on man.", "Oh no, quite the contrary. I'm certain that he has.", "[I prefer the one with all 3 original voices](https://youtu.be/9yHQBcUma8I)", "I agree. Everyone makes typos, but not everyone leaves typos in post titles.", "You can't edit post titles once they are made.... First day on Reddit?", "He got caught jerking off in an adult theater in Florida during a random police search. Not great but its not exactly a capital offense.", "If I recall, he got caught wanking it in an x rated theater. \n\nThe way society was at the time, and with him being a children’s show host, he was made a pariah. \n\nHe’s definitely made a comeback, but still…", "He got caught masturbating in a porno theater in 1991, and got arrested for indecency, and because his show was geared towards children he was labeled a pervert as a result and his career and name was dragged through the mud intil he made a comeback playing a drug dealer in the 2001 Johnny Depp drama Blow\n\nHe then in 2002 had his house raided and they found a bunch of old porn and he got accused of possessing child pornography but those charges were dropped or changed because he didn't, but the stigma of the accusation still stuck to him especially after the public perception of the '91 arrest.\n\nHis wiki has a subsection on both the 1991 arrest and 2002 charges if you want more details:\n\n https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Reubens", "Someone got a line wrong.\n\nTwo of them: \"Three of a kind!\" at the same time\nNone of them: \"Birds of a feather!\"", "I'd go as far as saying he did nothing wrong. I can't imagine there's a lot of people who go to an adult theater and keep their pants buckled (let alone expect others to), but leave it to the police to bust people's balls over trying to bust their balls.", "As stated, you cannot edit titles once they are posted", "The account I read said he was grabbed as he was trying to leave, so they didn't even catch him I'm the act. I think he might have been arrested simply because adult theaters were illegal in Florida at the time, but not sure. \n\nTotal BS either way, especially compared to monsters like Jimmy Savile.", "Are you allowed to delete posts and try again? First day on Reddit?", "You can delete posts and try again though, yes?", "How dare you sir bring this X-Rated movie theater under ill repute! This is a high class establishment!", "If I already got 200 upvotes and only one Grammar Soldier complaining, why would I? Besides, you can only post a link once in this sub. I've never tried to delete and repost the same link but I bet it's the same.", "I went to this show last week it was amazing, Billy Eilish played Sally, Danny Elfman was amazing", "I'll always remember this in connection with that event which always makes me feel better...\n\nhttps://www.google.com/search?q=pee+wee+herman+mtv+awards&oq=pee+wee+myv&aqs=chrome.2.69i57j0i13j0i8i13i30.7789j1j7&client=ms-android-verizon&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:0860e480,vid:FCxEAJGdIrs,st:0", "That first stage back was pretty funny.... That was back when MTV was actually Music Television....", "Oh I forgot about the 2002 thing. Both were stupid and didn't diminish my love of the guy, but society is fucking weird in who it casts aside and why.", "> why would I?\n\nBecause you \n\n1. Don't want to look illiterate\n\n2. Don't want to look or be lazy\n\n3. Don't want to make the world dumber. \n\n> Besides, you can only post a link once in this sub.\n\nThat is false. You could delete your post right now and post it again. I've done it many times. On r/science I've posted the same thing, like, three times in row because I kept getting the title wrong and I respected others enough to delete poor writing each time.", ">1. Don't want to look illiterate\n\n>2. Don't want to look or be lazy\n\n>3. Don't want to make the world dumber. \n\nIt's Reddit.... Where the game is made up and the points don't matter....", "Why the fuck would anyone do that? Especially if people are already replying to it.\n\nI think the internet might not be a safe space for you, friendo.", "You're blocked for ad hominem and trolling.", "Oh no.", "This guy...", "It was Reubens who has the \"Birds of a feather\" line.", "But the real question reddit wants answered is, did they ever stop a performance to prevent a crowd crush?", "I wanna make a meme with the Will Ferrel/Zoolander saying \"Stopping Crowds from crushing people is soo hot right now...\"", "I was so lucky to see this at Banc of California Stadium and it was amazing and the only thing crushed were the performances...because they crushed it...honestly though it was great and seeing Elfman perform \"Dead Man's Party\" at the end was insane.", "Doing that voice definitely hurt her throat on the long part for Shock but she refused to give up and I appreciate it.", "You're having a conniption arguing about a typo on reddit, the world is already dumber thanks to that.", "I hope that your accusation is hyperbolic.", "The Korn version is also surprised good", "I watched this whole thing waiting for when they stopped the show to help an injured fan...", "I hope you mean \"facetious\" instead of \"hyperbolic\". He isn't exaggerating anything.\n\nVocabulary Warrior VS Spelling Soldier\n\nFIGHT!", "Whoa what event is this?", "I forgot about that too. I think he got 'busted' for having paintings that had naked cherubs or something. \n\nI'm still a fan. It's so obvious he got caught doing something minor that shouldn't be illegal anyway, so who cares? but it got blown out of proportion. As far as creepy goes, he's the least of our worries I would think.", "This is lightning in a bottle. All three need to come together and make a musical.", "No, I indeed meant hyperbolic.\n\n> He isn't exaggerating anything.\n\nBullshit.\n\nhttps://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/conniption\n\nYou're blocked for trolling.", "I love the first Matrix movie, but it took me a while to not see Cowboy Curtis as soon as Morpheus shows up.", "Weird* Al", "weird al refused to look at peewee", "Danny has been fucking killing it. He released one hell of an experimental rock record this year.", "Also, everyone else caught got a similar charge. We now know how easy it is for charges to come out of thin air.", "Ooo, gotta check that.", "Big Mess. It’s a wild ride.", "Lulz", "I was at the bowl for that event and I think it was honestly my favorite show of all time. I was obsessed with Nightmare as a kid so it practically brought tears to my eyes hearing so many of the original voices. Thanks for the reminder!" ]	64	videos	Kidnap the Sandy Claws. With Danny Elfman, Paul Reubens, and Wierd Al.
https://youtu.be/FLnqbTja8bQ	/r/videos/comments/qoodnx/driving_in_kabul_afghanistan_pov/	[ "Ah yes, a wet, winter day in Kabul. The only thing missing from this video is the smell.", "Interesting to see mobile numbers graffitied on the walls everywhere. I saw of video of the same thing in China, and the filmer said they were for prostitutes.\n\nThis a good film to watch about Afghanistan - [Afghanistan before the Russian Invasion (Documentary, 1979)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHPrU7R8L2Y).", "What's with all the large fuel (?) tanks at the side of the road?", "Huh, TIL. Now that I think about it I can't think of another service that would always be 'useful' and so obvious that everyone would know what the number was for (with context). Thanks for the tip(s)! Super interesting documentary (& comments underneath), thanks for sharing.", "👍", "Yo an actual interesting video on /r/videos can't wait for it to be buried under whatever trash fad is going to be taking over for the next week.", "guy at 1:14 knows whats up", "Currently it has to survive all the videos of various concerts where the band/artist execute good crowd control.", "Diesel fuel and cheap cologne.\n\nSeriously, though, did they find the smoothest roads in all Kabul to film this?", "For gas heaters, stoves, ovens...etc. I assume they are outside for space reasons or are going to be picked up and refilled.", "A nice timelapse of the traffic circle at the southern end of Karzai Way would do.", "[ Jump to 01:14 @ Driving 🚗 In Kabul Afghanistan Alleyways / رانندگی در کوچه های کابل افغانستان](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLnqbTja8bQ&t=0h1m14s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: AzooL Farsi, Video Popularity: 97.50%, Video Length: [08:28])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@01:09](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLnqbTja8bQ&t=0h1m9s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^\| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)", "Most folks wearing black clothing.", "number one ways to die in Kabul is getting hit by a car", "Gas utilities that run gas through pipes to buildings is more rare in developing areas of the world. Electricity comes first, and even sometimes electricity utility infrastructure isn't great. So if you can't get electricity, you likely aren't getting gas. And anyone that wants gas hauls tanks around.", "Expected the infamous [humvee video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yco1deXOzN8).", "The vast majority of americans wear black during winter. Take the metro in DC on a winter day and you'll see 95% black coats.", "Snow? Is that normal in Kabul?", "A comment of it's time and place.", "nice music. Remember crossing in to Afghanistan from Iran and being comfortable with driving on the right side. USA driver", "What a fucked up place.", "Kabul was no sweat. Driving through Jalalabad was a whole different animal. Much more chaotic and dangerous back in the OEF days.", "Would this be a rich, average, or poor neighborhood in Kabul? If this is average, then goddamn, they're living better than most Americans.", "rain does not make it a happier place", "Good point. I was expecting to see a few red, white, brown jackets.", "Just a bunch of people doing people stuff", "Yeah bought back the memories of flying in and just seeing this bowl of smog 200m deep over the city, and the smell of burning tyres/plastic and diesel in the air.", "Massive Goth scene there.", "Why aren't there any trees in such a big city?", "Rain makes everywhere gloomy", "Daily average temperature in January is -2.3C or 27.9F.", "No yellow jugs at least.", "For safety reasons. If the tank's valve leaks you want it leaking outside, not inside your house.", "Follow up video of him driving in the city: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHSjwWJE7Cg", "There are in the main city, that was a poor suburb. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHSjwWJE7Cg", "ADVChina has a few videos about this as well. It's also for drugs.", "I noticed that was a thing in Germany too", "That is exactly the channel that I was referring to, funnily enough.", "This is true. I've seen plenty of these patch-sealed with a salt dough paste.", "4:31 gamestore on the right has a call of duty ad. Not something I expected to get a lot of play on that half of the world.", "It's in the mountains.", "I tried to figure out who you meant so hard", "Dump", "Reddit likes the complain about how terrible things were in Afghanistan from 2001-2021, but it really wasn't. It was the best time Afghanistan experienced in over 50 years.", "Military vehicles had the right of way. This is the case in Europe as well.", "It snows A LOT.", "Kabal had a lot of awesome stores to visit. I bought my wife a bunch of clothes there and I had the best lamb shanks I've ever had in a Kabal restaurant.", "This is in the middle to lower class area. The nicer parts have sidewalks.", "If you figured it out, I'd love to be enlightened.", "What is \"fucked up\" about it? The people there were very nice and the shops were really great. Found all kinds of cool shit in those shops and if you talked with the owners they would bring whatever you wanted to buy onto base for easy purchase.", "Guy on the right turns around to look at the girl he just walked past.\n\nI guess looking at a woman you pass is 'knowing whats up'.", "[ Jump to 04:31 @ Driving 🚗 In Kabul Afghanistan Alleyways / رانندگی در کوچه های کابل افغانستان](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLnqbTja8bQ&t=0h4m31s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: AzooL Farsi, Video Popularity: 97.27%, Video Length: [08:28])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@04:26](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLnqbTja8bQ&t=0h4m26s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^\| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)", ">This is the case in Europe as well.\n\n.... No its not?\n\nThe issue here isn't that that the Humvee has right of way, it's that it won't stop (and everyone hit can claim some compensation..) because stopping dramatically increases the risk to the vehicle.", "o7", "Do you think the smell and smog might have been because of all the military equipment?", "And we wonder why they hate us. Literally no respect for anyone their, maybe dont go out in rush hour traffic.", "Someone hasn't been around a NATO exercise.", "He was probably saying \"damn girl dressed like that in Afghanistan?\"", "Yeah.. I have, and driving things painted green.", "Oh shit this is lower class? Looks pretty decent actually. Not at all what I would expect from Afghanistan.", "Then you know during military operations that military vehicles have the right of way and all traffic must yield to them.\n\n[Example in the United States](https://youtu.be/bCwlV_94kPE)", "What would be the most common jobs for people who live there (in that area of Kabul)?", "Depends on the operation and the agreement with the local government. In Iraq at the time, military vehicles (And emergency vehicles and a slew of others) had priority in the left lane, and traffic was required to yield to them. That doesn't (on paper) mean that they can hit other traffic that can't move out of the way (in the same way that an emergency vehicle with blue lights on is still liable if it hits things), or even hit traffic that could. \n\nIn Europe you sure as shit aren't pushing traffic out of the way, or dangerously blasting through unsecured junctions, or hitting anything, and if you do you are in the shit to some extent (driver and vehicle commander). And obviously the level of discretion and essentially use of force is proportional to the operation. If a car stops in front of your convoy in Poland you are going around them or the police will move them if you can't, If you are driving during an exercise in Germany, you are obeying all the local traffic laws while on normal roads. If were in Iraq or Afghanistan the level or risk is very different and you have a massively lower threshold on what is an active threat (and so where you can use force, whether that's your vehicle or weapons..). \n\nEssentially the rules of the road (even as they apply to military drivers) are somewhat separate from the standing orders that units have to deal with threats. You aren't going to see a humvee physically pushing through traffic when on an exercise in Europe, or as part of one of the deterrence operations in EE either. Not unless the shit hits the fan anyway, but at that point it's operational requirements taking precedence, for military drivers, over the rules of the road, it doesn't change the rules of the road for local drivers.", "Graffiti, trash, narrow roads, rats nest electrical, poorly built structures. I could go on, but those are the main things. Did you miss all that?", "So like any town anywhere.", "Afghanistan was nice and had a lot of potential if ever their was an investment in it.", "Not quite, but pretty close. Lol at the people who want to pretend it's all fine a dandy.", "That house with Mickey and Winnie on the outside wall will hear from Disney Legal soon.", "LPG cylinders, commonly used as cooking and heating fuel.", "Also worth noting is this is not a recent video, its been uploaded in 2020", "The buildings are brown, the walls are brown, the roads are brown, the mountains are brown, the sky is brown.", "Anything interesting is automatically removed by the mods for being \"political\". If the comments in here discuss anything of importance in the world, watch this video be removed too. They'd prefer if it were only fart and celebrity videos.", "Yeah, I mean.\n\n> run down buildings, graffiti everywhere,\n\nWe're living in two different parts of America, visit some of the inner city hoods and you'll find houses fallen completely into disrepair, literally not livable or a structure anymore. Plus the place looks free from a large amount of litter, more than you can say about a lot of inner city American neighborhoods.\n\n> most people not driving cars \n\nIt's built for walking, most people seem to be able to walk where ever they need to go, there's commerce on the street instead of shuttered down buildings, no homeless people sleeping outside. \n\nPlus, another commenter said that this is a middle/lower class neighborhood, looks better than a lower income place in Chicago or Detroit lol.\n\nMaybe most wasn't the right word but they're definitely living better than a good chunk of Americans.\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOBoDT-3oM0&ab_channel=HoodTime\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlwYW5oy59w&ab_channel=CharlieBo313", "Yeah it's a shame, maybe if more people had this kind of view on Afghanistan instead of the constant desert hellscapes that the media shows, something would've changed.", "Man, you didn't read my comment at all didn't you? Reread it and you might see that I took back the word most, pretty nice that you still used it though.\n\nhttps://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/nov/03/us-poverty-data-poorest-poor", "> Sounds like you just hate America.\n\nuhhhh, wouldn't this be instead be a wakeup call that we have to you know, help our local communities so that 1 in 15 of our population shouldn't have to live worse than people in Afghanistan? \n\nReally, what does this accomplish? \n\n\"Hooray, 14 in 15 of us are living better than people who live in a war torn country!\"\n\n> I'm sure you have +10000 social credit score though. \n\nidk my social credit score, my credit score is 760 tho\n\n> Too bad wherever you're from is really shitty though feel sorry for you.\n\n\"in a bad state right now, not mentally I'm just in Ohio\"", "No those are all buried", "They don't stop because in the past vehicles have been used to stop convoys so they can be ambushed. They aren't just annoyed with the rush hour traffic.", "So you would be ok if a foreign army came to your roads and bullied you around on the street?", "Irrelevant. You said:\n\n> Literally no respect for anyone their, maybe dont go out in rush hour traffic.\n\nIt has nothing to do with respect, stopping a convoy is the fastest way to trap and destroy one. Having a few civilian cars box in a convoy is literally one of the most common ways to start an ambush. If one of the humvees stopped like that they would get a bump from the person behind them too. You can't stop a convoy.\n\nYour mindreading people when you don't know the basics of the situation.", "\"Are you listening to me Neo? Or were you looking at the women in the black dress?\"", "I really felt engraved by this video. Music was surprisingly good.", "Also NYC famously (at least, as famous as fashion memes go...maybe french in berets and turtlenecks is more famous though)", "How exactly are you making that determination?", "makes sense, my impression of Berlin is that they tend to follow trends in NYC and London", "Sorry, I couldn't get any audio from the [link](https://youtu.be/FLnqbTja8bQ)\n\nI am a bot and this action was performed automatically \| [GitHub](https://github.com/AudDMusic/RedditBot) [^(new issue)](https://github.com/AudDMusic/RedditBot/issues/new)", "No", "This was filmed in 2020, so a year before the American-led coalition left and Taliban took over", "Nicer than Philadelphia!", "> free from a large amount of litter\n\nThe videos you shared show majority of litter to be packaging materials. Guess the very limited availability of packaged goods & one way packaging helps a lot to avoid litter in Kabul.", "I'd love to see a remake of the video in today's Afghanistan to see how things have changed.", "Nah, there really wasn't that much military equipment in Kabul; far, far more was up in Bagram. A lot of it also had to do with the geography around Kabul. It kinda sat in a bowl so the smog would be stagnant.", "What kind of vehicle is being driven? And where is the camera mounted in relation to the driver? So many pedestrians on the right hand side appeared to have no clearance to me, but kept not getting hit by cammers car when I expected them to. Feel like my spacial-understanding in this video is off.", "I mean, there was a lot of investment in it. There was also A LOT of corruption and mismanagement though.", "There's a certain atmospheric phenomenon that basically creates a bowl of dense atmosphere over the city that traps everything for a while, which is especially common in landlocked places at high elevation. In the US it particularly happens in Salt Lake City\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inversion_(meteorology)", "[Inversion (meteorology)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inversion_\$meteorology\$) \n \n >In meteorology, an inversion is a deviation from the normal change of an atmospheric property with altitude. It almost always refers to an inversion of the air temperature lapse rate, in which case it is called a temperature inversion. Normally, air temperature decreases with an increase in altitude, but during an inversion warmer air is held above cooler air. An inversion traps air pollution, such as smog, close to the ground.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( \| )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( \| )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( \| )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove \| v1.5)", "Funny you say that, my post was originally removed for being political (Afghanistan probably triggered it). Messaged the mods and they put it back up" ]	99	videos	Driving in Kabul, Afghanistan POV
https://youtu.be/P26gCUluoTA	/r/videos/comments/qoog25/linkin_park_stopping_a_show_to_help_a_fan/	[ "Wow that's beautiful", "Whatever happened to that band. They were popular and just seemed to die off all of the sudden.", "Word choice :(", "Just your basic edgelord. Trashing the place up for everyone." ]	4	videos	Linkin Park stopping a show to help a fan
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qoov2t/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qoov2t/deleted_by_user/	[ "Dipshit encourages dipshit, fuckery ensues and results in injury. News at 11.", "Things arent looking too good for the Scott legal front", "Travis is definitely a piece of shit for egging him on but the fan shares some blame here for just being an idiot.", "The fan shouldn’t have been hanging off the balcony to begin with! Also high as a kite on something that’s for sure…", "Meh. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Travis Scott isn't a Jedi master using mind control here. Kid put himself in a dumb position. Social Darwinism at its finest.", "im pretty sure it wasnt him who was paralyzed it was someone one story above", "im not sure i just remember someone said someone from the second balcony dangled before falling and he was fine, the dude from the third didnt dangle at all hes the one who was paralyzed", "he even claimed he was pushed so i doubt it happened on video since the pushing parts unconfirmed", "Ya this guy looks like he lowered himself down pretty safely - still stupid but unlikely to cause paralysis.", "It's the old \"if your friend tells you to jump off a bridge are you gonna do it?\" First of all the venue should have better security so people aren't hanging off shit. Yall need to stop blaming Travis Scott for the fans acting like complete morons.", "yea im pretty sure this dudes fine but i keep seeing others get it wrong so i dont blame op", "This. What a fucking idiot.", "He still encouraged (as someone that people are paying to see so he holds some respect in their eyes) this idiot to do this.\n\nHe should have not encouraged the kid to jump and told him to not jump.\n\nHe's responsible for encouraging this behaviour", "Hard to know! Crazy shit", "I believe the children are our future\n\nTeach them well and let them lead the way", "Crom is not pleased by this Thulsa Doomery.", "Best thing to do when fans are acting like complete morons is to encourage them to endanger themselves and others.", "Duty of care, fan was intoxicated and impressionable to someone who he idolized. Travis was sober and knew he was being glorified by this dude", "You have first-hand knowledge Travis was sober or are you just talking out of your ass about something you couldn't possibly know?", "y’all need to stop blaming travis scott for his own words and actions.", "whatchu know about charles manson tho?", "The video ends with him crawling down. It doesn't show him jumping.", "Although I think Travis Scott is a piece of shit, it does not look like this fan jumped and instead climbed down to safety.", "Actually I think you got the saying wrong. It goes “if everyone else jumps off a bridge are you going to as well?” Or something along those lines", "Can someone edit this video down to the last 20 seconds so we don’t have to listen to that garbage for a full minute. Also nothing happens at the end.", "Is there a campaign against his public image? I know about the Astroworld shitshow, but why are all of these videos coming about now? Is it people trying to cash in on karma? Is this anti-cancel culture folks trying to enact revenge and get someone from the other side canceled? It just doesn't feel organic.", "Fucking moron. \n\nBeats me why people go to these shit shows and idolize gross rappers who sexualize and disrespect women, shootings, drugs, etc\n\nAnd shame on fucking McDonald’s for putting Scott on a fucking happy meal. You want fucking kids to look up to someone like that?? We live in a shit world\n\nDelusional world with no care and respect. Just want to fucking party and dance while watching fellow humans die. Fuck these people and anyone who supports them and advertises them", "All the YouTube comments say this isn't the guy who was paralyzed. It was another dude that got pushed off the balcony.", "That he drugged young men and women and essentially held them captive.", "8 people died at one concert. Many more were seriously injured. Seems worth talking about.", "Can we maybe just start to call this rapper Jacques Webster? That's his real name. I find it a nice way to remove the varnish of coolness they may give themselves, especially if they have such unfashionable/oldfangled (one could say unhip, hoho) names ;).", "'Some'? Scott didn't push him. Idiot deserves 100% of the blame.", "A video from another angle:\n\n[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw7eTQ08ljQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw7eTQ08ljQ)", "I know about that, and that's not what this is. These are essentially negative character witness videos.", "Man, fuck travis scott, fuck aaron rodgers, and fuck hitler", "Also known as evidence that Travis Scott was actively encouraging things that lead to injuries and death.", "This doesn’t seem like it is describing this video. Where did you get that?", "wtf is this fakenews bullshit, he literally climbed off the balcony in the video.", "He still wanted to jump. He still chose to jump. Consensually dumbasses", "I literally just said that. Everyone always so hostile. I'm wondering where it's coming from. Is it always like this after one of these? Have people finally had enough of his antics? Is it just hitting the mainstream?\n\nI never seen any of these videos until after the latest incident. The influx is huge.", "He broke both his legs but was not paralyzed. It was another individual who was pushed from the third floor balcony. Not the same kid. Very fucked up regardless.", "You’re right. It wasn’t this guy, yet another guy that was pushed off the balcony. Get you’re story right OP", "The media says we hate Travis scott now so we hate Travis scott now even though there are dozens of people he hired to be responsible for safety and the shows have been relatively safe for half a decade", "Who is dumber, Travis Scott or his fans?", "Who gives a fuck if this story is wrong. \nBuddy let 8 people die at his show.", "I don’t think Travis scott sings about shooting people ?", "Are you one of those reactionary people that believes every title bur never bothers tk read or watch a video? That incident may have happened I didn't look into it but there's literally not a single person jumping off anything in this video.", "Part of the guys lawsuit is that the venue staff didn't provide first aid to him, no neck brace, no back support etc. They just dragged him to the side and left him there.", "From what I've read online, it sounds like someone got injured in this manner at that Travis Scott concert, but the video we are watching might not be the kid. There were several that night who jumped from the balcony, so this may have been someone else.", "Do you know that you're replying to yourself with the same account?", "r/confidentlyincorrect", "The video is linked in the article but I don't think its the guy who got hurt. The article seems like it fucked up not op", "yea?? im just adding on to my first comment lmao", "Did you just reply to yourself?", "He sure did. Fucking dolt.", "They’re just milking the recent incident for karma", "Dipshit posts bullshit, dipshits reply, it's all just fuckery.", "lolol", "Even the host of the show says that the guy climbing down is possibly not the guy who is paralyzed and suing.", "If I had to listen to that music for a couple hours, I'd probably try to kill myself too.", "true poetry", "Same show different person. The one paralyzed was pushed off the 3rd floor balcony. The video below does show him jumping once he climbed down a bit.\n\n>Kyle Green, 27, was injured at Scott’s April 30th, 2017 concert at Terminal 5 in Manhattan, the same show where Scott was caught on [video encouraging a different fan to drop down from the second-floor balcony](https://twitter.com/RAVIEB/status/858872506668785665) into the crowd below.\n\n[Sauce - Rolling Stone](https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/travis-scott-show-devastated-for-houston-astroworld-1254325/)", "Nothice how ops account was deleted", "Oh no, not \"the media\" boogeyman.", "Can you explain what you mean by the cancel culture remark? You're asking if anti-cancel culture people are trying to cancel Travis Scott because he's \"from the other side\"? I've never heard of the guy before but to me it just seems like people on Reddit are railing against a performer who has a reputation for being a dick, and his concert has resulted in death and injury.", "I'm not sure if you'll be able to read this, as this video has already been pulled, but here goes...\n\n&#x200B;\n\nFrom what I've read online, it sounds like someone got injured in this manner at that Travis Scott concert, but the video we are watching might not be the kid. There were several that night who jumped from the balcony, so this may have been someone else.", "That was a part of the joke", "They literally don't care. This is a very common problem these days. Screaming that someone is a monster only to turn around a karma farm off the deaths of kids. They don't see the irony and hypocrisy in their actions. The same mob mentality that killed these people", "Even if he wasn’t sober, he’s fucking telling him to jump. Is that responsible to you?", "Trying", "You're still crying about cancel culture and how innocent Scott is? Pretty pathetic.", "Who are you?", "Someone willing to admit Travis Scott is a scumbag who directly contributed to the deaths of people.", "Oooh. I remember you. Idiot with an opinion, thinks he matters more than anyone else. Nice to see you again.", "Where did I imply I matter more than anyone else? Would love you to quote me.\n\nI'm just not going around stanning for a negligent scumbag and am calling out the idiots like you pretending Travis Scott is innocent and did nothing wrong.", "Imagine having a person get paralyzed at one of your shows and not deciding to use a different approach to hype the crowd. I understand that it wasn’t the guy in the video but a person was still wildly injured. Atmosphere’s entire approach to live shows changed forever after that Albuquerque shit and Travis Scott should absolutely do the same.", "Regardless, Travis Scott shouldn’t have been encouraging him to jump down. What if he did actually get paralyzed or hurt in some other way. It’s very irresponsible. Also how was security not stopping this kid from climbing over the balcony? And why the hell did the kid climb over in the first place?", "At the end of the day the person is his own person so he can’t blame Travis for jumping off a balcony, he asked would you do it, he didn’t say do it. It’s the whole thing your parents tell you if he told you to jump off a cliff would you? It’s the persons fault for doing it", "But Travis did provoke him and obviously he’s a young impressionable person who wanted to look cool in front of his favorite artist and a whole crowd of people. Travis put the spotlight on him and drew the whole rooms attention to him. He could’ve easily done that and been like “hey dude, please be careful. Can someone help this guy off the rail?” But he didnt" ]	81	videos	[deleted by user]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXaGp2SIbeY	/r/videos/comments/qop18i/when_bands_stop_concerts_to_save_fans_rage/	[ "This is wholesome, when artist care enough about people.\n\nI am still trying to piece together what happened in texas.\nWas it a stampede at the gates or mosh pit? Any one fill in the deets?", "Reports I have read said the crowd surged towards the stage when Scott came on. The result were people being crushed between each other. Once that starts it is a literal wave of people. It gets super hot and hard to breathe. Then you realize you can't even take in a breath because you're being compressed from all sides. People were reportedly passed out on their feet being carried by the wave of people. Anyone that did fall would be fucked because it would be almost impossible to get them back on their feet again.", "Thank you.\nI was seeing posted videos of people stampeding thru the gates, and someone said a wall fell. I couldnt make sense of it.", "The gates were a seperate issue, but I think really shows the complete disregard people had for each other at the festival. A lot of people rushed the VIP entrance. Probably a lot of people without tickets. They may have a lot of extra capacity they hadn't planned for which I'm sure didn't help the problem.", "you forgot autotune", "Having been in a massive compressed crowd before, it was one of the scariest moments of my life. You can do nothing as your body is being pushed around by the force of thousands of people. It was 5 years ago and I still refuse to go to crowded events" ]	6	videos	When Bands Stop Concerts to Save Fans (Rage Against The Machine, Stone Sour, Chevelle, Nirvana, Linkin Park, Hatebreed, Aaron Lewis, Trivium, Queen, and Avenged Sevenfold)
https://youtu.be/V5DeDLI8_IM	/r/videos/comments/qopgu8/trying_to_cancel_cable_subscription/	[ "How the fuck is this show still on the air", "Yeah, standard snl attempts at humor. Was Leslie Jones unavailable to come in and scream her lines?", "I've been wondering that since the '80s.", "I wonder why a show run on a broadcast channel that is owned by Comcast would run such a sketch about Spectrum? I can't possibly think of the reason.", "Leslie Jones hasn't been on SNL since 2019.", "My wife called Suddenlink a week back and told me this is a fair representation of how her call went, except the outsourced Indian helpdesk put her on hold and transferred her around for a full 40 minutes before finally cancelling the account.", "I don’t understand how they’ve survived the streaming revolution", "They stream on Hulu.", "Simpsons and Married With Children blazed this trail by constantly needling Fox as some hobo broadcast network.\n\n30 Rock’s entire run was based on making fun of NBC and Comcast.", "If only it was this easy.", "Them making fun of spectrum is the exact opposite of the Simpsons making fun of Fox.", "Weak.", "The fact that they used a real name makes me suspect one of the writers had a bad experience with them and pushed to call them out specifically.\n\nThe fact that NBC is partially owned by Comcast only makes me more sure, because there's very little chance NBC's Standards and Practices guys would greenlight a skit that they thought would be risky if taken to court.\n\nIn reality, they could have used almost any cable company's name, even Comcast. According to Yelp, they all do this shit.", "Not available in Canada?", "i thought it was funny, but i honestly skipped the middle of it because they kind of started running the \"transfer the call around\" thing into the ground and it ended on a really funny bit", "I'd like to thank all the people who have ruined comedy with your PC bullshit!\n\nThank you so much!!! 🙏", "Because they're in NYC, and Spectrum is the cable provider for most of the city. You can't even get Comcast in NYC.", "and therefore, the rest of the world too.", "I had to cancel spectrum internet last week and just told them was moving out of the country and took 10 min to cancel..", "Because they stream", "Soo yes", "I canceled my ISP by saying Im dead :D", "They get demerited if they don't try to upsell on every call, including cancellation calls. They also get demerited if they don't use your name three times.", "https://v.redd.it/vg8jyyliz7y71", "This literally happened to me. “Do you want a free landline for 6 months?” “No”. \n\nTech shows up to set up internet and won’t install it because I don’t have a modem that had landline compatibility.", "God damn, I've called that Heldi's character once. The dude picked up sounded like he had been staying up for 30hrs, it took forever to get through to him, and when I asked if he was ok he just sighed and hang up on me.", "Thats pretty much the excuse I go with most of the time. I make sure that you cannot give a rebuttal or if you do, you are a piece of shit. Because my other excuse is that my spouse just died.", "I like to combine those and say I killed my spouse and I'm fleeing the country.", "Soo you said it was standard, but haven't watched the show in almost 3 years.", "Tech can't change the order. Did the sales person put the order in wrong? Probably, but you won't believe the number of customers who actually agreed to something when the recording is actually checked and then later denied it.", "I sure fucking did, cant prove me wrong?", "The guy put the order in wrong when I signed up and they eventually charged back the incorrect charge. Pita though", "Wouldn't that trigger a police phone call? Then again, if they show up and wifey is still alive, case closed, right? This is not like screaming fire in a theatre is it as this is unicast, person to person conversation. I just might do it.", "You proved yourself wrong when you thought Leslie Jones would have been on an episode, when everyone else knew she was gone for years.\n\nYou obviously just have some axe to grind with SNL from the past and haven't watched in a long time. You might actually enjoy it now if you tried it... The Trump opening, for example.", "When I'm getting a hard time from someone on the phone and they are being obtuse, I normally start talking about their mother or wife in a very disparaging manner. Usually gets the point across!", "classic snl... come up with something funny and then regurgitate it 30 times until it’s not funny anymore.", "huh. you’d think i would’ve noticed the improvement to the show. and yet...", "That was actually easier than canceling spectrum, no equipment returns, no requirements to prove that you mailed equipment back using their UPS label 9 months later etc", "Ahhh fuck, they got to Roman....", "How can you notice improvement in something you don't watch? Remember how much better FOX News got after they fired Bill O'Reilly for sexual harrassment?", "Great example of where telecom should be further regulated. It should be required for them to make simple web forms available to do these things, or just to allow you to return the cable box directly.", "this was so hilarious , at times thats how I feel when im canceling a service. They just don't want loose a customer.", "im gone have to use this one next time.", "They have locations set up around the country. You can drop off your cable boxes and everything. They don't fuck around in person.", "I'm not surprised that NBC (owned by Comcast) takes the opportunity to shit on a competitor when they have probably the worst ISP reputation.", "Is there a mirror version for us non-US people?", "It’s funny cuz it’s true", "As is tradition", "I moved out of their service area and tried to cancel and at first it was that easy. The only problem was that they ended up starting internet at another apartment in my building instead of canceling mine. I then had to cancel both of them and talk to their fraud department so I wouldn’t get charged. I was on the phone with them for over 3 hours that day", "I've had Comcast for years in multiple locations and they're always super reliable, I'm sure there's a lot more people like myself who aren't complaining about them on the internet.", "\"i've been sentenced to life in prison for murdering a retail worker, so i won't be needing cable anymore\"", "It's available in europe", "as someone in europe, define europe.", "I'm in Romania right now and my friends in Belgium saw it too when I sent the link.", "I had to cancel my Comcast a while back and after 30 mins on hold I hung up and called back, this time selecting the option to upgrade my service. Spent like 30 seconds on hold before I got a representative and just cancelled with them.", "[MIRROR](https://streamable.com/qa6y8x)", "Try cancelling your Sirius XM satellite subscription. My son totaled my car which had satellite radio so I had a damn good reason to cancel the service. I had to straight up get nasty with the guy by angrily asking them \"So you are purposefully not going to cancel my subscription? Is that what's going on here? Because I absolutely want to cancel and you are doing everything to not do that very thing\". The asshole had the nerve to continue to talk about putting the subscription on an in-home radio rather than the car that was now totaled." ]	57	videos	Trying to cancel cable subscription
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qopi6v/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qopi6v/deleted_by_user/	[ "Tell em cactus Jack sent you", "This is not Cactus Jack, this is just some guy who took the name.", "\"singing\"", "[This is Cactus Jack.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Nance_Garner)", "Singing, chanting, humming what ever it is shits creepy asf", "Gotta keep the money rolling in ..: cause being hooked up with a billionaire is not enough", "10 second logo on a 30 second long video. that was probably stolen. lol", "[No this is cactus jack](https://youtu.be/c2ohpJkHp-U?t=160)", "I wonder if he can see much of the crowd because of the spot lights focused on him.", "Shit sounds like an auto-tuned asthma attack.", "This is fucked up. ~~And I'm no devil's advocate, but it may have been difficult to see through the fog and lights (I've been on stage, shits BLINDING) ~~\n\nTHIS IS STILL FUCKED UP and they should have ended the show immediately.\n\nEdited to add: After viewing some (haunting) footage, it is obvious that neither Scott nor anyone actually in charge seemed to do a goddamn thing to help and are fully to blame.", "I feel bad for the guy. He probably sees a bunch of drunk people carried out of his concerts all the time and it takes a lot to realize somethings wrong. He genuinely seems torn up about what happenedn", "Not defending him at all but tbf no matter how rich your SO is you should be independent enough to take care of yourself because relying on others for income or to take care of you is a recipe for disaster\n\nEven if she's a billionaire it's not like she HAS to take care of him, if they broke up he would still have to pay his bills etc (obviously this applies less to Travis Scott because he's already rich, was more speaking generally)", "That’s the one (who popularized the moniker).", "https://www.reddit.com/r/travisscott/comments/qnxqiu/an_eyewitness_who_was_at_the_front_gives_a_very/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share\n\n Here's a post on r/travisscott with 17k upvotes and video proof which shows that he clearly wasn't in the unknown and knew exactly what was going on", "https://www.reddit.com/r/travisscott/comments/qnxqiu/an_eyewitness_who_was_at_the_front_gives_a_very/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share\nCheck this post if you wanna know more man this shits truly fucked up", "Trash video to share...\n\nedit: op deleted his comment, he ripped the same video from another /r/videos post and slapped 10 second intro onto it.\n\nTrash video", "Imagine surviving the worst pandemic in modern history, mentally overcoming being isolated after months of lockdown, then celebrating after enduring all that by deciding to fly to Houston to be part of Astroworld only to get trampled to death there with this “singing” as the last thing you hear before your soul leaves your body and have your lifeless body be crowdsurfed around like you’re a blowup doll.", "crowd control is done with gates, passes, and security. not by the singer.\n\nlast time i tried go to a concert in the front it just seems like i was working a job and not being paid.", "This is the first time I saw it posted and couldn't find the clip on YouTube among all the news clips.", "\"Sing\"? Lol", "I can’t think of a more profound way to go out", "Well aren’t you a cunt", "Someone should have shown him the \"pick them up\" chants from a Linkin Park show. \nPathetic.", "Go post your own loser", "Goddamn, heavy Travis Scott hate spam on Reddit today. Guess people are looking for an easy scapegoat after the tragedy in Houston\n\n/edit: downvoters, I'm not defending him or denying it. I don't care about him. I'm trying to point out that the cause for such a tragedy is often more complex than just 'he did it all!'", "Yes, there are videos where he has the stage lights off and people are screaming for help and he calls out and says “make some noise for my man in the tree!”\n\nThere were also ambulances in the crowd. He is responsible as well as the venue\n\nEdit: https://mobile.twitter.com/tre5pix/status/1456998158152736773\n\nOn mobile so difficult to link but people in comments arguing if he is culpable when he could’ve stopped the show to avoid loss of life, but he doesn’t care", "These so called stars have no more humanity left in them. Disgusting", "Well when you put it that way", "There's actual witness and video proof bruh \nhttps://www.reddit.com/r/travisscott/comments/qnxqiu/an_eyewitness_who_was_at_the_front_gives_a_very/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share\nEveryone got they own opinion tho it's cool", "I had not seen those videos. It's a terrible tragedy.", "Good old Reddit. The majority of your comment is a disclaimer to avoid the wrath of the group think...", "Reddit loves an excuse for anger and vitriol.", "We don't have to imagine, someone filmed it!", "Jesus, this dude needs a few teeth kicked in.", "Oh, this comment is going to age very badly. You might want to research any part of what you're saying.", "Ya if i was his LD id just take everything down on stage and light the area of interest for the medics.", "Worst Viking funeral ever", "A decent artist would stop the music and use that little mic to tell people to move or help people up.", "No OP is the cunt, because this isn’t the full video", "I heard he had an erection", "…", "He better not drop it in shower but sadly don't think he will get until unless it does happen", "And there is videos of him telling people to make way for the medic and to make room. I understand people are in shock and horror and want to find a reason but I think this situation is way more nuanced than just saying Travis Scott sucks.", "Personally, I think the phenomenon that you're describing is less about group think and more about how much communication between humans is non-verbal and non-textual. There is a lot of meaning lost when the medium is just text, and I think that has a lot of bearing on how dogpiles happen. Just my opinion though, I'm no expert.", "No. plus the massive bass and 50,000k people screaming. I saw one video with a group of people getting squished into a pile screaming help and other people 10 feet away were still enjoying the concert. It was dark, loud, and chaotic. Nobody knew what was happening.", "Holy fucking shit", "if you leave stuff up tot he artist people die. this is why there are organizers and rules.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nbut i sure am glad the \"decent artist\" would stop the crowd after only a few deaths.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nonce people start pushing there becomes panic, a mic wont stop them.", "Apparently a security guard got injected with 'something' and immediately passed out when attending to one of the victims, and had to be revived with Narcan \n\nhttps://nypost.com/2021/11/06/astroworld-security-guard-pricked-in-neck-with-needle-houston-police-say/", "Make sure they exist before you believe it please", "What the fuck was that intro?", "https://twitter.com/contrastnyc_/status/1457025385510617088?s=20\n\nShare the video with more context then.", "god damn this type of \"rap\" just sucks, cant even say 'yeah' without using auto tune, what a pile of shit", "I mean this is one way to paint a picture. The other would to show the full video where he stops singing and gets the man help.\n\nEdit: here's the full video for anyone actually interested in what happened that night. He should have had better security. Less people at the venue. But to say he stood there and sang knowing what happened is taking it a little far. How much more did he know was going on? Could he have heard their chants from the stage? Idk but the video shared by op is cut before he stops to help the guy.\nhttps://mobile.twitter.com/mdaixo/status/1457019340973281288?s=21", "There's a longer video of this shot from a different angle. He stopped and pointed the guy out, called for security and then sang while he was carried out. He knew. He watched. He continued.", "I called it trash in another sub and I got shit on lol. I guess I should've called it \"trash\". lol.", "https://twitter.com/contrastnyc_/status/1457025385510617088?s=20\n\nVideo with more context. The entire thing was a shit show but he did try to help.", "I just came to say FUCK this dude. His music is trash- to me. He’s been a piece of shit before and continues to affirm the fact he is. Karma has a special treat for people like this.", "Okay, then, show us the full video if you think there's more that should change our minds. But you should understand you're looking at a very steep uphill climb, because Travis Scott is trash, and you're not looking too great trying to defend him.", "The people who keep saying “b-b-b-but one time! At a Slipknot concert! They stopped the show! So Travis is a POS!” want to weirdly blame Travis and not the venue and staffing. It makes no sense.", "It is always wise to take everything with a grain of salt until it's verified by a trusted source. I do not want to rush to judgement.", "Travis Scott is trash and his \"music\" is garbage.", "Do I have to research how much of a POS Travis Scott is? Or people on the internet cope with tragic events without being there. \n\nBecause now it seems like Travis was causing all the bad events that day, from storming the VIP entrance, people getting crushed, binging on drugs, dancing on the ambulance, etc etc", "I think that is Dude Love...", "And there is video of Travis Scott telling people to move, make room, medic needs to help the person. This isn’t so cut and dry and it really isn’t Travis Scott’s responsibility to do crow control, that is the venues.", "Singing ?!?!?!? He cannot even say yeah like a true rapper. He amazingly sucks. Keep digging Travis just keep digging that hole", "Thank you.", "People pass out and faint at concerts all the time, it’s not like he has X-ray vision and can see the heart is stopped.\n\nPeople need to get real, this festival is a lot more than just one person. I’m not exonerating him as I think he could have done more, but no one is mad at Michael Jackson for not stopping concerts when literally swathes of people were fainting at the foot of his stage.\n\nPeople just want to be reactive now that something so tragic happened, but we have seen crowd surge happen all the time but now because of recent events, more people seem to have a problem with it. A little unfair if you ask me.", "I have never hated a celebrity since I couldnt care less for them, but I can safely say Travis Scott is a massive cunt and I hope he gets what he deserves.", "Clearly you don't know anything about Travis, he openly encouraged his fans to jump the gates, fits in with his glorification of rage culture", "Is that singing though?", "Causing, no. Not stopping his show when a very obvious problem is happening in the crowd, however, makes him an at fault party. That you want to pretend otherwise says more about you than it does about me.", "And since all of that failed, it would have been up to him to intervene. He had the ears of every person in that crowd. He might have been able to reverse the crush by appealing to those in the back.", "I initially thought this would be some exaggerated claim and the guy would, in reality, not be able to see what was going on.....\n\nI was wrong.", "The bass blocks my eyes", "Definitely more boring ways to die.", "Even if he didnt see the people, he saw the medics and ambulances trying to get through.\n\nEvery decent human being stops the show at that point and asks the crowd to let the medics in, and then you dont end up with dead fans. It doesnt matter if he knew people were dying, he knew people were in need of medical assistance and did nothing to avoid their deaths.", "Isn't this why festival general admission was banned after The Who concert in Cincinnati in the 70s? I guess if you move it outdoors the promoters don't think it will happen.", "I personally don’t know him that well personality wise, i just listen to a lot of his music but he is totally at fault with this festival just not in the way people are portraying it. I’ll find the video and link it.", "Music is just aesthetics and about the 'drip' nowadays. That's why every other influencer gets to this music industry mostly due to connections and the sad thing is they do succeed.", "Why would you listen to garbage to begin with?", "Even if he didnt see this guy, theres no way he didnt see the medical vehicles with their lights on trying to get through the crowd, he still didnt stop.", "I feel like it is a bit insensitive to make this about you not liking his music rather than multiple people dying", "Reddit going through the same stages with Travis as they did Dave Chappelle", "half of the video's duration", "Cry harder that you are out of touch, buddy.", "Are you okay?", "r/hiphopcirclejerk\n\nTravis Scott is a piece of shit but huge \"i hate mumble crap! I just wanna grill!\" vibes from you lmao", "Yeah this only happens on reddit.", "Auto tune dogshit as well, fuck this garbage event all around.", "Thank you for posting more of video to give context.", "It is difficult. Travis could not look out into the crowd and really know what was going on. He did encourage people to sneak into the event beyond capacity. He was incredibly reckless with these people's lives. No one seemed to have audience safety in mind.", "You mean to tell me the guy who has people selling old McDonald’s meals online for hundreds of dollars because his name is on it has a cult like following?! Look at the generation of kids & how they act for sneaker releases or any new “trend” online to get their 15-seconds. This was only a matter of time.", "And? That's not a valid opinion?", "This is good for the economy", "Yeaaahhhh. Ehhhhhh, Yeaaaaahh, Yeahhhhh, eeh. 10 million dollers please", "This is important, ive seen the first clip posted everywhere but never this part. He definitely didn’t do enough, but he did something.", "lights on, mic cut.\n\nany concert which doesnt have a gated exited to remove people is going to be seriously limited in its ability to provide crowd control. people will have no where to go.\n\nbe sure provide a map of gate control....", "Accurate title: Travis Scott says \"yeah\" while waiting for unconscious fan to be helped away by security after noticing said fan and pausing the concert.\n\nPeople keep reposting this clip that conveniently leaves out the part of him pausing the concert and calling for help for the unconscious fan. I hope u/nevergonnagivey- wasn't aware of this and isn't just purposely spreading misinformation", "mumble rap does sort of suck though?\n\nits all the same auto tuned incomprehensible gibberish", "This is tragic. I had read elsewhere about how bad it was, read first hand accounts of what happened at that concert, but this is the first actual video that I've seen. That music is awful.", ">That you want to pretend otherwise says more about you than it does about me\n\nDude, why are you even arguing with me and even making this petty? I live on the other side of the ocean and I'm sure you weren't there either. Nobody says 'the show should go on after people die'.\n\nI'm just trying not to judge immediately based on a 10sec video. And, oh irony, Redditors are immediately scrambling to downvote nuance.", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjD2tDEqWTk it’s at 42:10 almost, just filmed from another angle ofcourse.", "Who would have thought, Travis Scott is a fucking cunt", "I was at a concert where a girl passed out. The band stopped the show, paramedics got in to help the girl and the show resumed after. Well, half of the crowd was in a night club next door while the headlining band played, because they had to clear room for paramedics to do what they needed to do. But the headlining band played a second set for the fans that got stuck in the dance club. \nMxPx are swell dudes.", "good take", "That guy is a piece of shit", "Like I said, you might want to research what you're talking about. All it took for me was watching a couple videos, and seeing Scott totally aware that there was a problem, and continuing the show anyway. He's culpable.", "To be fair I can’t name a single thing named after mumbling in this world that stands out as awesome.", "If he was the organizer of astroworld, doesn't the liability land on Travis? He would have been responsible for security unless its a third party.", "Rap just like the internet, seemed to have disappeared up its own butthole since around 2010.", "LAwllllllllll.....you can't make way when you can't move. \n\nI was there at Obama's first inauguration. It too like 4 hours for us to catch a train into DC and make it onto the lawn.\n\nEveryone was taking tippy toe steps and you it was the most claustrophobic thing ever.", "What a piece of shit", "He did stop once he noticed", "[Here](https://youtu.be/0bggq9xIRKM)\n\nTook me 5 seconds to Google \"Travis Scott pauses show\"\n\n\"Hey somebody help him, we got somebody passed out over here\"\n\nOP is blindly spreading misinformation. Travis Scott seems like a dickhead but there's no need to lie and pretend he didn't pause the show.", "Actually OP posted a shortened clip that conveniently leaves out the part where Travis noticed the passed out guy and [paused the show so he could be helped out](https://youtu.be/0bggq9xIRKM)", "How bout stopping the concert all together because people lost their lives ??", "Shh. Don't alert the emperor, and his followers, to his complete lack of clothing.", "Something is not adding up right here, young people don’t just drop dead like that, I did not see a single video of stampede", "charge for what? Not his fault the fans crushed each other, if they weren't so weak from the vaccine they'd be fine", "https://twitter.com/contrastnyc_/status/1457025385510617088?s=20\n\n10 9 8 7 until you delete your comment I bet.", "No one mentioned you, OP", "YEaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa", "Just go scroll /r/travisscott", "He's fine, he's fine. It's how the kids these days talk. You know, he better not drop it in shower but sadly don't think he will get until unless it does happen. It's like when AI creates a string a words. Think of it like poetry. Like, stupid poetry. Senseless, illiterate poetry.", "I appreciate that nuance!", "I don't know what you mean to say, but I go to festivals and every one has GA.", "Doubt he noticed at first bud", "you can call me anything... but mumble rap must be the most effortless and talentless form of \"singing\" there is, maybe when illegible whispering becomes a thing I will remove my statement\n\nyou don't put your throat through any kind of stress aside from talking for long periods of time when it comes to concerts, there is no shift in notes, and you sound like an alcoholic after a brain injury", "He is not “singing”, I believe he is stalling the show while he watches a kid who he believes is passed out being carried away", "Can you prove that he knew the guy died? I've seen videos of people shouting at security/organizers to stop the show but you know the performer wouldn't hear that right? The organizers should have absolutely stopped the show after being notified but if they didn't pass word to Travis how is it his fault?", "Honestly he looks and sounds scared and sad but has lost humanity to the point where he thinks his voice would ease pain and make death more Sufferable.", "Tf you taking about?", "There’s a full video where he stops and points her out and tells security to get her help and for people to back up and give her space.", "You should probably research and read the articles about what went on in this concert venue.", "Nope. Hes a BIGGER piece of shit for KNOWING there was a problem and not making sure that problem was resolved before continuing. But hey, thanks for confirming that he's a piece of shit.", "They probably thought stopping it would cause more panic", "And the logo is a swipe of Rolls Royce", "People have been losing their minds over musicians for what seems like forever. Elvis, Beatles, Backstreet Boys, NKOTB, Beiber, you name it, whatever. And not just pop or rap stars, bands too.\n\nI can't really give people shit for being enamoured by an artist. I think what's important is how they (the artist, and the fans) take it in, and what they do with it, how they give it back.", "I did, and it doesn’t add up", "Reddit mocking a guy who is no doubt traumatized from a total tragedy", "Ignoring the death of a fan before his eyes.", "I've seen some footage and read some stories of people that were there. People were crushed further back not in the front.", "So you are saying he couldn’t have done anything about it? Sounds like we agree. The answer seems to be planning and staging’s fault, which is handled by the venue.", "Jesus. Look at you. The guy who doubles down on angsty emo illogical claims despite evidence that Travis stopped the show, pointed out the issue, and made sure he was being helped before continuing.\n\nYou sounds insufferable.", "And nobody with a camera, aha…", "Except that the concert was not paused at all, he stopped for a few seconds before carrying on as if nothing happened.", "It is, but if you look into it there was some fucked up shit going on. Apparently Travis Scott actually encouraged the fence hoppers to begin with, so the capacity is already fucked up right from the get go. Then it apparently took 30 minutes for Travis Scott to even acknowledge that something was happening, even long after the medics were brought in but then he just kept playing the music. People in the other posts from the concert were saying he even told people to flip off the EMTs(?) and people were dancing on the carts and shit. \n\nYes it's more nuanced than just blaming Travis Scott but that doesn't mean he has a lot of blame coming his way. As the person on stage you have the most responsibility (and power) to stop this kind of shit from getting out of control once you catch wind of it. People the last few days have been sharing a lot of videos of other bands and acts who actually fucking react and stop things like this from happening. Yes you have a spotlight on you and it's loud and shit, but it's not impossible to notice especially once medical staff are carrying people out of the crowd.", "Someone needs to remake the last verse of American Pie.", "Let's not post anymore about him. This asshat craves attention, and posts like this only feed exactly what he wants.", "> nowadays.\n\nMusic has always been about aesthetics and 'drip'. The Beatles, Elvis, Johnny Cash, Michael Jackson, etc. Apart from their music also very known for their aesthetics. Hell, even Paganini was known for his 'drip'.", "Hopefully he doesn't have any spinal injuries, the way they're carrying him.", "Lmao sure, thats what we just saw. Then how did eight people die? Oh, you have no answer.\n\nI'm glad you find me insufferable, because you're garbage, and I would not want you around anyway.", "For all he knows the person could have fainted how was he supposed to know that the person is dead or he's on stage if someone came up told them might be different story I don't listen to his music but it's just a guess", "That is what is supposed to happen during a satanic ritual.", "The problem is that in really packed crowds you can't get your phone out. I just saw the footage of people getting CPR. These were definitely further back.", "Was he singing a mournful tune on purpose? \n\nThis whole situation is beyond fucked up.", "There are claims that people were injected with Fentanyl", "Disgusting that the artists didn't immediately stop the show when they saw injured people in the crowd...", "Are you seriously comparing those legendary artists to this piece of shit?", "Try SponsorBlock. It's an amazing addon for exactly this kind of time-wasting nonsense.", "So you \\didn't\\ read it then, got it. Because there wasn't any trampling.", "Yeah a lot of traumatized people in that sub :(", ">but i sure am glad the \"decent artist\" would stop the crowd after only a few deaths.\n\nWhat the hell are you talking about the other guy didn't even say that", "No video of pushing or stampede, just young people dying and getting CPR, I’m sure the truth will come out soon.", "Just covering all the bases: any chance he was calculating that the pandemonium would worsen if he stopped singing so he kept going to minimize the damage?", "reddit in a nutshell. just as bad as fox news really lol.\n\nbut definitely not a good look to keep doing his weird humming and not completely stopping the show lol.", "That sounds more like it, although - they won’t have to be injected with it, it’s enough that it touches their skin.", "How does 8 people dying have anything to do with the fact that Travis DID stop the show when he saw somebody in trouble, ensured the guy was being taken care of, and didn't continue the actual show until he was removed from the crowd and in medics hands?\n\n8 people dying is a completely different subject. Were there issues? Yes. Is Travis responsible for the shortcomings in the show? Yes. Did he STOP THE SHOW when he saw a person in trouble? Yes.\n\nYou're shifting the goalposts, and it's not a good look. The entire discussion here is about how Travis didn't just ignore somebody in trouble.\n\nYou were proven wrong yet you just keep doubling down.\n\nAnyway, we're done here. Don't have the patience for your kind of childish ignorance. I've blocked you and will not see your replies.", "This is just after he got done telling them to clear the way and help get him out.\n\nWhen you watch the full clip it’s like they just threw back on his auto tune while he was still talking to the crowd, like basically told him to keep going. \n\nI’m mostly saying… It’s really weird when you watch the whole clip, this snippet doesn’t illustrate the layers of fucked.\n\n[to be clear Im not saying he has no responsibility, but that there are definitely more people responsible](https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qopi6v/travis_scott_continues_singing_in_his_concert/hjonv3t/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3)", "I saw that too", "My girlfriend showed me a TikTok but yeah you are right. Truth will come out, there is just far too much speculation going on.", "In the words of management, \"the show must go on...\"", "Yea, keep reading for your truth and don’t question anything even if it doesn’t makes sense, take the text for a fact.", "Maybe someone was distributing drugs. Extasy, MDMA and the like' and stuff wasn't well made?\n\nAs far as I know - those that go to concerts or raves more often than once in 10 years would not be adverse to those.", ">he stopped for a few seconds before carrying on\n\nDo you know how pausing works?", "One of the guards were found unconscious and had to have Narcan administered to get him back. He had a needle mark in his skin", "uhh.. huh? The Beatles vs. Umm.. Travis .. Scott.. same thing? i c.. uh huh.", "He’s on who knows what shit", "Lmao buhbye asshat. This was never a debate, so you pretending you won something just shows how callous you are about the loss of human life. See, thats the part that should matter here. There weren't any shifting goalposts either. I started by saying that he continued the show after seeing there was a problem. That's the same place I'm at now, and you're a jackass for trying to defend a completely indefensible asshole. Its weird you keep thinking you proved something other than what I keep saying, that temporarily pausing and then continuing the show makes him culpable.\n\nBut I'm glad you blocked me, means you don't get to keep replying and saying more moronic shit.", "lol. cute.", "So 50,000 people packed into a tiny venue. Where literally nobody could move, peoples chests/stomachs and then lungs being constricted so many people couldn't breathe properly.\n\nAll of the bodys, packed together tightly, causing insanely high temperature. Making it even harder for people to breathe. What part of that doesn't add up? People were suffering cardiac arrests in the crowd from lack of oxygen. Are you actually questioning this when the information is directly from dozens of the people who were attending? Seriously?\n\nYou aren't vaccinated either I take it.", "I can't see how this music is popular, it's the audio equivalent of channel surfing. Just zoned out mindless noise", "He could have stopped the concert and had the venue bring up whatever house lights they had to aid in getting the uninjured out and getting aid to the people that needed it.", "Attend a live concert event before commenting here like you actually know something,", "It's his show, it's his fault it was unsafe and it's his fault people died. He was already guilty before he saw a corpse, but it's even more reprehenisble that he saw people dead at his show and didn't stop it on the spot. Disgusting conduct.", "I have been to probably far more concerts than you, so your defense on this is just to throw out plain ignorance now? You know absolutely nothing about me, so you must just assume I don't know what I'm talking about.\n\n You are indeed a very special idiot.", "Damn Travis, read the room buddy.", "It's certainly good for bitcoin....if these people owned any their wallets will be lost and reduce the float.\n\n\nI'm sorry.", "Whatever makes you feel good about yourself.", "...that would be the lights", "Those barriers ae really dogshit thing, Pol n Rock festival never had a fatal incident next yo the stage, and it is a heavy metal festival with all forms of mosh pit performed by audience. All they had to do i raise stage like 3 m and people naturally back off to see musicians.", "Look, I don’t disagree he said some fucked up shit, and it absolutely did not help but the character he plays on stage is counter culture and he has to trust that the venue hired and planned out the event correctly so when he does play his character, that shit doesn’t go sideways.\n\n\n\nAll the the other artists people are citing are also counter culture and say fucked up shit at their concerts but what is the difference here? Is it that Travis didn’t try to stop the issues? Well no, he did but they continued. Is it because he didn’t try hard enough? Or could it be the fact that the venue was over-capacity and whether people would have wanted to move out of the way, they couldn’t. That seems to be the logical answer and very clearly cited.\n\n\n\n\nThis whole situation is fucked up. I tend to agree everybody did something messed up who was involved. I mean it was spectators who stomped other spectators to death but no one seems to be blaming them. Cause they understand that the venue was over-booked. But somehow, people are still blaming Travis Scott? That shit doesn’t make sense to me. I tend to lean towards the venues’ and booking’s fault but I still think I don’t know enough to blame them directly. But I find it crazy the mob-mentality on Reddit right now to directly blame Travis. I think if they are willing to excuse the spectators, the logic should apply to Travis as well.", ">He was already guilty before he saw a corpse\n\nwhen he saw a passed out fan\n\nAre you saying he saw other people passed out? Or the people that died? What's your basis for that? People were notifying cameramen and security but did anyone relay that to Travis?", "Thank you. 😘", "He stopped the show multiple times to point out people he thought were passed out for security/medics.\n\nThere were people 10 feet from injured/dying/dead people that had no idea what was going on.", "I think people pass out / get carried out of concerts all the time. I seriously doubt he knew at the time. I had one of my friend's friend pass out at some concert. The guy who passed out was a dude who had a celebrity crush on her and he seemingly passed out due to the excitement not long after she came on stage. Missed the whole concert and wasted the hours long drive.", "My exact comment", "Yeh that’s not pausing, I think he even says “keep the music going”. If he HAD stopped the concert to check on the fan properly, he no doubt would have heard the screams of people dying.", "Thanks man.\n\nShit OP for adding 10sec into onto a trash clip lifted from someone else on /r/videos", "To brainwashed sheeple like you who seek the truth from the MSM it looks stupid. But you offered no reasonable explanation to the facts.\nJust ranting that you are right and others are wrong doesn’t make you right.\nProof makes you right, one that your do not have.", "Probably not really his fault, the real cunt is whoever shared the clip first knowing they’re taking it out of context", "No they are saying celebrity (including in music) has always had fashion and aesthetics as a big part. \n\nSo the drip is and always has been a big part of music culture as a result, so it's not new as implied by the other poster. That's all", "Thanks for spreading the message", "\"make way for the medic\" while there's a literal ambulance driven into the crowd and he doesn't stop the show isn't a good \"well he tried, don't be so mean\" argument. Just sayin'", "Blatant ripoff of the Rolls-Royce logo too", "There is no house lights in an outside venue, it is usually just the light for entertainment. Also, he tried and stopped singing at some points.\n\n\nAnd I don’t mean to say this like I know all, I am just saying this is a super unique situation with a venue overbooked and if people even wanted to make room, they couldn’t as every first-hand story says that people were drowning in each other and couldn’t move. And why aren’t the people who trampled each other being blamed? I feel that is because people understand the venue was overbooked. So why not blame the bookers and the venue for not being prepared or selling too many tickets? Just feels weird to blame Travis Scott and give a pass to the the spectators who trampled each other. I don’t know everything yet but I lean towards blaming the venue.", "Like I just said, the booking doesn't really matter because a ton of people just got in for free. They didn't anticipate it, yet Travis Scott encouraged it. Blaming the spectators isn't really fair because the whole way the phenomenon of crowd crush tends to work is that when you're in it you're stuck in the flow of people and you literally can't move or fight against anyone you can only move the direction the crowd is pushing you to move. The people in the middle only realize people in front of them are being crushed by the time it's too late and they can't really do anything to stop it, and the people at the back who can* help stop it are too far away and its too noisy to even realize anything bad is going on. There is still probably some blame to throw here and there but honestly it's something I imagine is very easy to criticize until you're there yourself caught up in the waves of people and unable to fucking breathe yourself.\n\n>Well no, he did but they continued.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/eKTw1-MY4l8\n\"Who asked me to stop? Who asked me to stop?\"\n“Y’all know what y’all came here to do”\n\nHE continued, dude. This video was literally after people were getting carried out and the ambulance (and I think police) had arrived. I don't know what you think you heard but this wasn't some case where the crowd has all the blame and poor little Travis had no idea what was happening.\n\nYou're right that the venue and security could have stepped up their game, sure. You're right that Travis shouldn't get all the blame. But just cause he doesn't get all the blame doesn't mean you should be blindly defending him as if he didn't do fucked up shit.", "If staying in character is more important than the lives of others there's a problem.\n\nAnd there have historically been tons of counter culture acts and communities in music that embrace violence during shows and they stop for shit like this.\n\nI've seen bloody noses and shit in mosh pits with anarchy based punk music and they stop when people fall over or get hurt before continuing in the crowd to get people help.\n\nThe whole facade/character of counter culture and anarchy for fun or expression has a limit at individual health and safety. This is far from the first time Travis Scott has egged on poor behavior with serious consequences. \n\nThis shit is not okay. He could have and should have done more for the safety of his fans. Turn off the \"fuck authority\" crap for medical professionals holy shit.", "It isn’t his job to do crowd control, he is the entertainer. But he tried anyways, I really fined it unfair to blame someone for trying to do the job for somebody else but also not being good at it cause that isn’t their job. Why not blame the spectators who didn’t get out of the way for the medic? Or the people who trampled the other spectators to death? Maybe it is because we understand the venue was underprepared for the event and over-booked. So why not blame the people who didn’t do their job correctly and who actually have the most power in this situation? The venue? Y’all make no sense and the mob-mentality in this situation to blame Travis Scott is really, really weird.", "Haha nice attempt to push my buttons there with the vaccine… but I’m gonna walk away from this one pal", "Some people will jump at any opportunity to talk shit about modern rap.", "He should have stopped the show completely and gave the audience a breather so those in danger can be saved", "Tone deaf in more than one way.", "I just don’t think the logic applies whatsoever. I have ready the reports from the police for the situation and they said they didn’t want to let the event end yet as people could start rioting, escalating the event. The wanted to wait till the people who were injured, removed and then they ended the concert 30 minutes early. I don’t think we can compare this event to others as this one was particularly unique. Not saying Travis is defenseless, he will be fine regardless of how Reddit views this, just would rather the outrage of the event isn’t directed at the wrong place when it could be directed at the correct place and real change can be made.", "That's exactly what he did here, the video just conveniently cuts out the previous section where he's directing EMTs to the persons location.", "I feel attacked. Cash me ousside howboutdah?", "True....but he started up again. Made no real appeal to the crowd to stop pushing forward or let services get to the injured. \n\nI have to think...hope...that the guy just wasn't aware of the gravity of the situation.", "Here you are: https://mobile.twitter.com/tre5pix/status/1456998158152736773", "Here you are: https://mobile.twitter.com/tre5pix/status/1456998158152736773", "It's obvious he can't hear them. Jesus", "Huh, don’t remember assuming he could. Just countered the original point that the stage lights were on and he was watching the crowd while people died. Jesus", "My b. You replied to me I was confused.", "All good b, too easy to argue online", "No, I'm really not comparing them. I'm just saying that aesthetic always had a place in music.", "\"THIS IS STILL FUCKED UP and they should have ended the show immediately.\"", "Yeah they should have ended the fucking show", "For sure, just agreeing with you that it’s not like he was aware of what was happening or ignoring people he saw passing out.", "I wasnt disagreeing", "Sorry I get dogpiled sometimes for dumb shit", "Imagine thinking sitting on your couch eating cheetos for a year is mentaly taxing.", "People are so f****** stupid!", "A rapper who is an asshole and disgrace to music. How surprising. The floor is also made of floor.", "Imagine thinking not being able to go to dance clubs or Fiji for a few months is something to overcome", "Thanks for posting!!", "He could have told people to start exiting the venue, to make way for the ambulance. Instead, having seen the ambulance, he told everyone in the audience to put their middle fingers up, and started another song. He bears a great deal of responsibility for the delay of aid reaching the afflicted.", "It’s valid but still makes you a goofy fuck", "He’s acting like he’s singing at their funeral. TF! Seriously devoid of any emotion.", "This video will forever haunt my dreams. I am assuming, hoping, that Travis Scott didn’t realize the severity of the situation when he kept singing. The world scares me more each day I exist in it. I don’t blame those who crushed him. They were crushed by the people behind them. Someone made the decision to just push. Not knowing what they were doing. Someone should have been watching. Someone. I thought that was why we had security at this type of event. I’ll never go to another and I’ll be damned if my kids do." ]	238	videos	[deleted by user]
https://youtu.be/oELuR8BiRQk	/r/videos/comments/qopryq/when_bands_help_the_fans/	[ "sad not all handle it this way.", "They missed Radiohead:\n\nhttps://youtu.be/gdbrhE4Nvec", "The thing that isn't visible here is that some of these guys on stage are quite egoistic dicks, hard to work with, impossible to reason with and still, they stop the show and help the fans. Them being difficult people does not mean they are actually sociopaths, artists come in many forms and some of them are difficult personalities, they are different but have quite a lot of care and empathy in them." ]	4	videos	When bands help the fans…
https://youtu.be/gdbrhE4Nvec	/r/videos/comments/qoq027/radiohead_halts_a_song_right_in_the_middle/	[ "Seems like every third post today on Reddit is one of these concerts like this. I've seen this Radiohead video already 12 times.", "the speed at which they start back up again is amazing", "i love how the security guard picks him up like a lifeless ragdoll and throws him over his shoulder like a bag of potatos. Then they count to 3 and start playing again.", "What a boring song.\n\nAlso didnt expect the nut touch", "It’s called karma whoring. Happens all the time to any subject that gets traction.", "[Thom also did this in Argentina in 2018](https://youtu.be/6iajXJIp_eU?t=4007) and [even asked the crowd to step back from the front.](https://youtu.be/6iajXJIp_eU?t=4269)", "Yep. I get my Karma one comment like at a time and someone reposts a clip and gets thousands of likes. Welcome to Reddit lol.", "As if these two examples are even comparable", "You guys going to spam this shit over and over due to the recent events?", "Loved their album Pablo Honey, have enjoyed some of their songs since then, but....\n\nThis is a dreadful live performance. It's like it was supposed to be an absurdist exhibit about people being enthusiastic about poor live performances. If I went to see my favorite band in the world in concert and it sounded like that, I would walk out.", "it's you against the world buddy lessgo!!", "OK officially sick of these posts now.", "Kar-ma whor-ing, arrest this poster", "Hey I was at this concert! Great show", "That’s why they’re arguably the greatest band of all time", "Most boring performance ever. Fan died of boredom", "I searched if this had been posted in this sub before submitting and it wasn't. [Even if you search now](https://i.imgur.com/1OxsRND.png) the only results that comes up with \"Radiohead\" in this sub about this video are mine, and of some other person who posted it after me.\n\nAnyway I just remembered about it because I thought it was a cool video and I just posted it, I haven't checked Reddit today that much tbh.", "You're joking, right? Pablo Honey is easily their weakest album.", "Damn white people and their concerns for other peoples safety.", "> It’s called karma whoring.\n\nIn this instance, this is good Karma Whoring. It removes any possible argument of \"dude it was a huge crowd you cant just stop\" because we are seeing clear examples of large concerts being stopped.", "They're serious musicians, not mere performers.", "Karma Police, arrest this whore?", "Yeah my feed's fucking exploding with no-context crowd crush videos today. If I hadn't read actual news this morning, I wouldn't know what any of this is about. I think one good \"TIL\" was all this really warranted.", "I didn't know this! That second clip was really cool, they really do care about safety and also \"Oh Radiohead, un sentimiento, no puedo parar!\" fucking classic Argentina. Those 2018 shows were amazing, I went to see them when they came to Chile!", "Are you really judging the sound quality of a show based on a 2003 bootleg shot from hundreds of feet away?", "Almost as sick as 8 people needlessly losing their lives at a show or not quite?", "I think that's a basic human function not limited to white people but ok", "Maybe I am the bizarro Radiohead fan in the comment section today, but it's their album that I listen to. It came out when I was a teenager, and I listened to it a lot, so maybe it's just because of that. Still, I like it a lot. \n\nBtw I'm being downvoted for my original comment but I honestly cannot understand anyone watching that clip and not seeing that it objectively sounds bad. He is mumbling like he is having a stroke, the sound quality is bad on top of that. Sounds like late stage Ozzy Osbourne.", "Me too!", "LOVE ME ON THJE INTERNET PLSSSSSSS", "[Why potatoes? Because I'm Irish?](https://youtu.be/gYgveD5B-V0?t=317)", "I've seen a bunch of videos so far of people stopping this from happening, and they're all white. What's up with that?\n\nIf its a basic human function, why are people surviving white concerts and dying in other ones?", "I want to enjoy Radiohead, I really do. I just can't figure it out though. I'll stick with tool", "Listen to “In Rainbows” it’s their most accessible album.", "[here ya go. you can quit insinuating racist connotations now thanks. ](https://youtu.be/Ga-y3_FNJ_Q)\n\n\n[here's some more](https://youtu.be/kL-8O1EM1WU)\n\n\nTook me all of 30 seconds to find that.", "Seriously. It's actually nice to see decent bands/artists on my feeds", "compare this the travis scott concerts lol", "yep. my problem is that he sounds like a stroke victim, not the quality of the microphone recording him.", "Not only good bands / music but decent humans that y'know, won't watch their fans get hurt and act like nothing is happening", "Me three!", "I'm failing to see examples of these people caring about the safety of other people. \n\nEnd of the day, front page of reddit is covered in white bands saving people from the crowd....", "Nobody is arguing there aren't white bands on the front page but drawing the conclusion that only white bands care about their crowd is pretty bold.\n\nLimp Bizkit big field day 2001. Check it out. Your mind will be blown. \n\nWoodstock 99, I think it was limp Bizkit as well.", "idk AMSP is pretty banger for people getting into radiohead.", "Ye it is but it’s such a melancholy album because of the themes. Definitely would go in rainbows then a moon shaped pool.", "Sure, everyone is different. AMSP was what made it click for me personally.", "So basically everyone else has no problem looking after the safety of their audience...", "Yea, it’s wherever you’re at honestly. Thom going through a divorce and everything, if you’re down it’s a very therapeutic album. But for something more well rounded as a intro I like in rainbows, it has some very good highs.", "Well hopefully people start linking that kind of stuff and upvoting it, instead of the current message that's being sent out.\n\nWould hate for the wrong idea to get inside peoples heads through observation of similar events, with contrasting results.", "Clearly people are going to jump to their own conclusions regardless so I wouldn't worry too much about it if I were you ;)\n\n\nSome people cannot be helped.", "I like the part where I never said any of my opinions or conclusions. You came to your own. The irony.", "Fair enough, they're not the most accessible. I find listening with the lyrics adds a lot (and a lot of confusion too haha)", "> Damn white people and their concerns for other peoples safety.\n\nYou don't know what irony is friendo\n\n\nCut your losses here bud the hole only gets deeper.", "o·pin·ion\n\n/əˈpinyən/\n\n&#x200B;\n\nnoun\n\na view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.\n\n\"I'm writing to voice my opinion on an issue of great importance\"\n\n&#x200B;\n\ncon·clu·sion\n\n/kənˈklo͞oZHən/\n\n&#x200B;\n\n1. &#x200B;\n\nthe end or finish of an event or process.\n\n\"the conclusion of World War Two\"\n\n&#x200B;\n\n2.\n\na judgment or decision reached by reasoning.\n\n\"each research group came to a similar conclusion\"\n\n&#x200B;\n\n&#x200B;\n\nI don't think you know what these words mean.", "if they keep it up im sure they'll make it big", "Take that definition and apply it to your past comments and you should realize that you've been spouting off opinions this entire time.\n\nYou're learning!\n\nKeep digging man this just gets more entertaining.", "my god, the skill of the band to fall back into that song at that precise spot in that little time... and they all fully trusted each other to manage it. Radiohead are very skilled.\n\nAlso obv props to caring about their audience, but I really shouldn't even have to say that.", "If only there was someway of trimming the video down to only contain the pertinent 8 seconds.", "Please quote me stating my opinion, and then post the definition of opinion under it for screenshotting purposes, thanks!", "You could always trim this video down to the relevant 8 seconds and repost. Then fill your hot tub with all that sweet sweet karma, I think?", "The troll has been fed enough.", "haha you can't can you, because you know it's wrong. haha", "I've already quoted your original comment to which you replied the definition of how it was an opinion. Everything you need is already there. Enjoy the rest of your Sunday dude, consider getting out the house for a bit it's healthy.", "And then we (Toronto) returned the favour by killing their roadie", "Was at this show and marveled at how well they stopped and started back up again. Have told this story like 1000 times over the years.\n\nFun trivia: this was a make up shoe after their original Molson Amphitheater show was cancelled due to the huge east coast blackout.", "I'll go outside, maybe go to a concert.\n\nI think I'll go to one that cares about the safety of the crowd. I wonder if there is a way to tell which ones will be safe, and which ones wont.\n\nPerhaps I'll check the front page of reddit, and see if I can spot any major differences between the venues, or the bands.", "I saw them do similar at a gig many years ago - Thom just calling a crash stop mid song to call out some folks who were getting too rowdy down at the front (at a Radiohead gig, really!?), and the full band launching straight back into the song note perfect from where it stopped.\n\nIt is a simple thing, but how fluid and precise everything was done was impressive to see.\n\nBloody amazing gig too...", "Like I said. Draw your own conclusions. Some cannot be helped. Best of luck to ya.", "Happens around the 3:00 mark.", "karma whoring deaths at a concert, pretty cool", "ha ha", "At a technical level their main import is that they experiment with ideas from other genres, and the mix helps those genres pick up ideas from one another and expand. They are definitely experimental.\n\nAs an analogy, there is a painting called Wall of Fire. It is three stripes in two colours. It is worth millions of dollars, not because it is particularly dramatic or complex, but because it is one of the first paintings to begin experimenting with art that was interactive by playing with the colour receptors in your eyes. Youre supposed to stare at the line between two strips and then look at the edge of the painting, to turn it from two colours to four or five. The painting is taking concepts from biology and incorporating them into art. Other artists picked up on this and started doing more complex things in more \"normal\" looking artwork.\n\nSo Radiohead is a bit weird sounding because they are doing new things that you will hear later in more mainstream music.", "I don't think that this clip is a good representation of Radiohead live, it does sound pretty rough around the edges in the clip. The song they are playing (Myxomatosis) sounds great on the album, though. You should check out The Bends and OK Computer if you haven't listened to both of them in their entirety. They both blow Pablo Honey way out of the water in terms of quality.", "True professionals.", "They’ve been playing together since the 80s, and they rehears A LOT before their tours", "I’ve never understood the mindset of someone who suddenly stops finding music enjoyable because it’s not from your time period. What a close minded way of enjoying music . \n\nNo matter my age - music has never stopped being enjoyable to me. Music changes with the times and there is always a great example in every genre of artists who continue to create great, new music. \n\nMusic is better now than it has ever been due to the sheer amount of creators with published catalogs\nAnd literally no barriers for listeners to acquire music by artists anymore.", "Rock and metal bands are very used to this...it's a thing that happens all the time and is taken quite seriously. I think because most of them grew up as fans of the genre and were in those crowds experiencing it first hand. It's absolutely terrifying to be in a crush situation...the absolute lack of control and being completely powerless is a memory that stays with you.", "Lol, name suggests you're a Shaman fan, that's quite the glass house there buddy", "I appreciate your objectivity, but don't stand too close to me or an errant downvote might get you XD", "The devil wanted a soul", "Yea, if only the important section was highlighted pink in the timeline.... IF ONLY.", "I've listened to all those albums and they're alright, but I don't get the hype.", "smh my head, people seem to think it's a \"disagree\" or \"dislike\" button when that was never it's purpose.", "I saw them in 96 the lead guitarist was in nearly the same state during karma police.", "I was at this show, and from the angle it was shot at, probably like 20 feet away from the cameraman. I was so stoned I wasn't sure this really happened. Bless the internet for the reminder and the evidence, and Radiohead for being kind lads.", "I was there too! Didn’t get tickets for the show that was canceled, but they added more when it was rebooked for the ACC and I got floor tickets!", "Should send this and all the other posts to Travis Scott's twitter.", "Flawless restart", "When me and my brother were the most in tune musically we could perform synchronous improvised key changes while jamming. It's awesome how in step you can be while playing music.", "Whoa! I was at this show and this is about where I was sitting!", "Also, just to add to this - Live Nation, the company who organized Astroworld, were also involved in the death of Radiohead's drum tech in 2012 in Toronto. [The band spent years in court over the case.](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/radiohead-toronto-stage-collapse-public-apology-call-1.5347786)Live Nation is an awful company with a lot of blood on its hands,", "honestly, the bends is the best intro to radiohead imo. or their documentary called meeting people is easy", "Keep these coming…….. it’s shedding a light on good and bad in more ways than one…❤️", "All these posts ive been seeing, they all say the same thing. 8 people didn't have to die the other day. And Travis is a POS.", "I'm going to come to the conclusion that you can't tell the difference between derisive commentary and opinions.", "🤷🏻‍♂️ gotcha, try to see if you can find it, they’re considered the best by a wide margin. \n\nHappy cake day", "He also did this for a guy who passed out next to me in Tampa 2012, don't think there's a video though", "[Travis Scott has also done this before](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ml9EGK5OaNo)", "[ Jump to 03:00 @ Referenced Video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdbrhE4Nvec&t=0h3m0s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: allbearsrule, Video Popularity: 98.84%, Video Length: [04:36])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@02:55](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdbrhE4Nvec&t=0h2m55s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^\| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)", "In before claims all of these posts about bands halting their concert are called racist because ethey involve white bands doing good things while Travis Scott is black.", "just tried a few songs and I like the instruments but it's clear to me now that I don't jive with the singer he sounds monotonous and nasally :/", "I was right behind this dude, real pro move and back to the show.", "Yeah I’ve seen a ton of these posted today but it’s just an example of someone doing what they are supposed to do.", "I'm only 45, but yea he sounded terrible. But I see a lot of people in this thread who love his music. And that's great. Just my opinion.", "Travis Scott stops show to help fan\n\nhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ml9EGK5OaNo", "Not defending the guy but Travis Scott did exactly the same thing in the exact same clip y'all are dragging him for. \n\n\nThe media is misleading you. Downvote away. [https://www.instagram.com/p/CV-POPCFHb2/](https://www.instagram.com/p/CV-POPCFHb2/)", "Totally. I’ve seen this happen at a lot of concerts, which says more about how easy it is to do and Travis Scott doesn’t have an excuse.", "He's got one video for his defense at least", "Imagine coming too and Thom York is singing Gloaming/Witching Hour to you.", "Holy Fuck these are some professionals!!", "[There's actually another of him doing this at the same festival.](https://finance.yahoo.com/video/travis-scott-stops-concert-astroworld-161200010.html)", "I really need to find a new site to kill time on.", "Tool and Radiohead are my two favorite bands. I always felt like they shared something indefinable that I really love, but maybe not so much, lol", "So what is reddit today? People got killed at a concert so lets watch videos of lead singers stopping people from getting killed?", "damn. but it shouldn't be upto the band to have to solve for this, even though its good they did", "damn man I think a lot of us Toronto radiohead fans still feel horribly about that whole situation. If you're gonna blame anyone, use Livenation's name.", "It’s so strange. There are just as many videos of people being escorted out of venues while the band plays on. \n\nA month ago, Phish had a guy jump from the balcony and kill himself in the first set. The follow up song had lyrics - bag it, tag it, sell it to the butcher in the store. They played the second set and probably didn’t know it happened until after the show.", "Coming out hard against the one band literally everyone likes.", "I think it all sucks. I'm tired of reddit brute forcing me with this stuff as a means of manipulating how I feel about things or people. I wanna see a performance cause it's great, not because people are shaming at another performer. Whether they deserve it or not. Can't even see a radiohead clip posted on here without it alluding to something from the news", "Why though? \nSo it's not to your liking. You don't like experimental sounds, broken rhythms, complicated beat times, and melancholic lead singer. Or whatever. \nWhy \"want to enjoy it\"? Isn't it better to figure out why you don't enjoy them, and what you enjoy about Tool, so that you can hunt for other similar bands that'd fit your taste better? \nWhy bother? It's not like there's 3 bands in total, so you're hard-pressed to learn to enjoy Radiohead. There's a ton of music available in the internet times. \nGradually you might even grow into liking things you didn't like previously.", "I admit I hadn't fully understood what a close relationship bands have with their crews (and especially their instrument techs) before this event. What happened that day was devastating to them all, and they never ever stopped fighting for justice for Scott.", "Not defending this bank robber, but just an hour before the robbery I saw him not robbing a bank.", "moar acid", "[https://finance.yahoo.com/video/travis-scott-stops-concert-astroworld-161200010.html](https://finance.yahoo.com/video/travis-scott-stops-concert-astroworld-161200010.html)", "reddit really wants to cancel that rap guy", "It happens at 2:27", "The Foo Fighters one was a cool little reminder. I was like \"Oh yeah. I've seen this before I remember th... Wait ... I was there...\"", "\"The charges were ultimately stayed after two court cases failed to reach a verdict. The first trial was suspended after the original judge was appointed to a higher court; the second trial was thrown out after the defendants successfully argued the case had faced unreasonable delays.\"\n\nInfuriating.", "Ah yeees a Radiohead post", "Uh more like \"the viral video of him robbing the bank is actually him withdrawing his money. There might be other videos of him actually robbing the bank, but it's not this one.\"\n\nI know, might be a bit too complex for the average knee jerker but at least I tried.", "I could try but I already know that would just lead me to moar tool", "[ Jump to 02:27 @ Referenced Video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdbrhE4Nvec&t=0h2m27s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: allbearsrule, Video Popularity: 98.86%, Video Length: [04:36])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@02:22](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdbrhE4Nvec&t=0h2m22s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^\| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)", "Please stop posting these videos", "Anyone who didn’t know Travis Scott was a POS until the concert incident obviously never tried his trash McD meal", "If only pertinent 8 seconds were the whole video.", "Jesus Christ Reddit give it a rest. Other musicians help the fans out. We know. We get it.", "I LOVE when other people LOVE Radiohead, but I also understand when people can't get into them. But Hey Tool is also amazing! And A Perfect Circle. And Haken. And Between The Buried and Me. And Thrice. And Dream Theater. And Periphery... I could keep going.", "They lost their drummer technician in Toronto. The inquiry was a total joke. Scott Johnson RIP 2012.", "They are amazing not just because of their mind bending experimentalism, but because they are profoundly good musicians and composers. Also, Thom York has the voice of an angel straight from heaven.", "Ok Computer\\", "I was there! It lasted a while and Thom grave directions yo people. The Best band", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uYWYWPc9HU", "Reddit has this habit of showing a dozen posts people make about a topic in the news without ever actually showing me the news. What happened? Why are there 10 things about crowd crush at concerts on the frontpage?", "Its my favorite album, too bad its like 35 seconds long", "Travis has literally done this lmao. Y’all are using the death of teenagers to farm karma. Dickheads.", "I would try In Rainbows. If you are open, at least listen to Nude and then Weird Fishes. He’s got an extremely expressive and beautiful voice.", "fair lol", "They did this at the Thunderbird stadium in Vancouver on their In Rainbows tour too. I remember Thom saying “we’re not Rage Against the fucking Machine”", "I guess it's too complex for me too.\n\nBecause it just looks like you have video of the fact that Scott sometimes does it right.\n\nThat doesn't say much about whether he's had a general pattern of irreponsibility.", "Yeah I guess so. I'll try to explain it slowly for you\n\nIt's not simply a video of him \"sometimes doing right\" it's the full context video of him \"singing to the unconscious person\" that is currently going around and the exact reason this thread exists in the first place.\n\nLiterally there's this moment from a different angle with the beginning cut off that leaves out the fact that he calls for help first. That's the difference. Still too hard for you though I'm sure...\n\nThe faux outrage really is ridiculous!", "Travis sang at the corpse being moshpitted out of the group, and hasn't stopped his act, he basically gave a dead person an eulogy in music form, how decent of him, right?\n\n&#x200B;\n\nHe did nothing close to this.", "Radiohead are a different breed of band though, most would have just let there lawyars handle things and move on.", "He literally stopped the show as he saw the fan was unconscious. Told everyone to move out the way so he can get helped and be carried away to assistance, as the situation happened he was adlibbing melodies so people wouldn’t go in panic mode. He didn’t know the fan died, he most likely thought the was simply passed out as that’s happened multiple times. https://vm.tiktok.com/TTPdYtESpW/", "This is like the 6th band stops a gig to stop a fight vid I seen posted.. Is there something going on?", "Yes, I said \"at a technical level\" because I can't tell someone their taste in music is wrong :p", "travis scott downvotes this post", "What's with the reddit neckbeards flooding the frontpage with these videos trying to bash Travis.", "Travis Scott should definitely be charged with extreme murder.", "I also wouldn't call In Rainbows their most accessible album. If I met someone who wanted to get into Radiohead, I'd suggest starting with The Bends, then OKC, then IR.", "To be fair; Travis scott would have to rewind the vocal track he is lip-synching along to.", "petition to remove travis as performer at his upcoming shows\n\n\nhttps://www.change.org/p/aeg-remove-travis-scott-as-a-goldenvoice-performer?utm_content=cl_sharecopy_31287236_en-US%3A7&recruiter=1232710099&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=tap_basic_share", "I appreciate what Yorke did, but the security guard was very uncool to just throw an unconscious person over his shoulder like a sack of beans. Gently, please!!", "You need to see them live. Life changing.", "I really can't tell if I like Tool or Radiohead more. Definitely my top 2 favs, probably tied with Pink Floyd. I got into Tool as a teen and it wasn't until I was around 20 that I got into Radiohead. They're pretty different though so I'm not sure comparing the two is really worthwhile. I will say though that Radiohead is kinda opposite of Tool in that they play encores, they don't care about people filming at concerts or using their music, releasing b-sides and the stuff that didn't make the album. That kinda stuff definitely endears me to Radiohead more but that's not the music ya know? \n\nAnyways, to each their own, just thought I'd let ya know Tool + Radiohead fans exist.", "Could have had a neck injury or something that he just worsened.", "How the fuck does a security guard manhandling someone in need make the band great?", "Ok so I’m not crazy.\n\nI saw a clip of Travis stopping the show to alert security that someone passed out and needs help. \n\nSo many threads pop up pointing out other artists and bands literally doing the same thing. \n\nSo what’s different between Travis and all these other bands?\n\nI’m not defending the guy. I personally don’t care for his style of music, and before yesterday, I never even heard of him. But I’m not sure why everyone is jumping on the bandwagon of hating this guy.", "Exactly. Glad they stopped the show to get the guy some help but it was more ‘get him out of here’ than “give him proper medical attention’. These things happen all the time so it’s not like RH deserves a humanitarian award or points for best band of all time. A few months back the Avett brothers came to a complete halt for several minutes to ensure that the crowd allowed medical personnel to properly assist a fan. All the while asking people to send positive vibes for the person. Although i place the responsibility on the organizers to have procedures in place to deal with these incidents. Including halting the show if necessary.", "Except Tarvis", "Shout-out to Haken! Don't see them mentioned too much. I love The Architect song.. the build up is so damn good", "Did you know that Hitler had dogs and was nice to them?\n\nExcept for that time he killed them of course.", "Are you unironically comparing him to hitler?", "Lol, no, I'm pointing out that showing footage of Travis Scott not* getting people killed at his concert doesn't change the fact that he got 8 people killed through negligence. \n\nIt's the same thing as posting pics or videos of a killer doing something nice. I used Hitler and his dogs as an example, because that's a widely used example of an evil man who you could make look nice with an out of context picture of him with his dogs. \n\nNo idea how you took my comment to mean Travis Scott = Hitler, but I'm more than happy to clear up the confusion for you.", "I was talking about them seamlessly jumping back into the song........ come on.", "I was at this show! SO blown away by the respect and professionalism, as well as incredible musicianship displayed in that restart!", "For me, while Kid A isn't as accessible, it was really what opened my eyes to the band.", "Nothing wrong with that.\n\nThey're my favorite band but I understand it's not for everyone", "Yeah I've never stopped to appreciate just how naff radiohead are until I just had to sit through that display. Fair play to them but Jesus that was dire.", "I was at this show. It was unreal to watch them just pick up in the middle of the song like it was nothing.", "find what?", "The appeal", "In contrast: I’ve always loved Radiohead and have personal, nostalgic connections with OK Computer, Kid A/ Amnesiac, hail to the thief. \n\nThat said, I was surprised at how ON/OFF they are with this emotionally poignant shit they are dealing with! “Verse 3! Tangled eaten up! Go!” \n\nHow easily Thom Yorke does his little leprechaun dance and utterly controls me", "When a band gets acclaim (not just from the industry, but from people I care about and respect) then I want to find the same joy. You are right, there is so much great music out there, but there is also so much to wade through. If so many people I know can find something in this music then I would like to add it to my library of great music I listen to as well. The search for great music never really stops.\n\nI'm saying this from someone who loves Radiohead. But I get the same feeling when my friends rave about My Bloody Valentine. I want to have their enjoyment in it, but can't seem to grasp it. It doesn't come from trying to follow a crowd... it comes from wanting to find something new that strums the right vibrations and maybe if I listen to it in a different way then I can feel the good vibrations.", "Travis Scott is a rapper. He isn't responsible for the venue of security.", "I was there for this!", "Is it me or has Reddit become flooded with performers stopping their shows to help people so that they don’t get sued? Hint hint….", "You people defending him are fucking crazy. He's responsible for 8 deaths.", "They didn’t say equals hitler. They said comparing. Which you were.", "Wait so why is this dude getting blamed at all for this stampede?", "A few days ago 8 people died, and hundreds were injured in a crush at a Travis Scott show in Houston, and Travis Scott and the crew reportedly refused to stop performing to help alleviate the crush.", "Actually I compared the way the person was defending him to the way someone might defend Hitler if they were attempting to be disingenuous. That's not the same thing. \n\nSorry that you misunderstood, but you're responding to a comment where I unequivocally state that I am not comparing Travis Scott to Hitler. So idk what you're trying to prove, clearly that's not what I think lol.", "Now I understand. Thanks.", "Better use recent tragedy to gain karma police!", "Sorry for the tone of my comment, it was overly hostile. Irritation carried over to you which wasn't cool, my bad dude.", "He's alright, just had a mild case of myxomatosis", "Travis Scott is trash.", "There's video footage of him saying \"what the fuck is that\" while looking at an ambulance struggling to move through a packed crowd and then he basically immediately starts another song.\n\nEdit:\n\nAnd part of his brand is also encouraging people to jump the fence gates to go to his concerts.", "This is why no body comes to /r/videos anymore", "All good! Hitler had the same problem.", "I was at this concert. Boss move by Thom Yorke and the band.\n\nSide note: this concert was originally supposed to happen back earlier that year in the summer, but the 2003 blackout forced them to postpone it.", "Second this - I was super impressed at the time. Can you believe that was nearly 20 years ago?", "> it was more ‘get him out of here’ than “give him proper medical attention’.\n\nHe specifically said to get him to an ambulance.", "Right, but if someone is unconscious you generally don't want to move them. And you really want to be gentle with their neck.", "Me four!", "Nah I think Hitler's problems went a little deeper than making snarky comments on reddit, but I appreciate your attempt to bring it full circle.", "Nah, listen to The Bends. It's their most accessible and also best album.", "Radiohead never really did new things though. Like their biggest transition, OKC to Kid A, other bands like The 3rd and the Mortal had already done that over half a decade earlier. Radiohead's just more popular, so people think they originated what were actually fairly tired ideas at the time.", "The Grateful Dead also regularly asked their fans to take a step back. I have so many recordings of theirs with a take a step back track. My favorite is Cornell in ‘68, but this is a great one I’d never seen before today, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A9msLwh-wp4", "It's so disappointing thinking about how the whole Travis Scott/Astroworld thing ended up when, instead, it could've been so much safer and could've resulted in so much less blood", "You mean you think they're the greatest band of all time by a wide margin? \n\nI mean, I've no doubt they're a good band, but claiming they're the best band of all time is kind of inviting ridicule, isn't it?", "\"Yeeted\" I think is the better term.", "Yep. Opening track with a good pair of headphones is the best", "That’s interesting. I loved Radiohead growing up and could never get into Tool", "I have to say I love Radiohead, however this is not one of Thom’s best songs/nights vocally it seems. I’ve seen them a bunch of times live, Thom with Atoms For Peace and solo…and he’s never sounded like this.\n\nOthers have posted suggestions on better entries, so good luck. Or not…sometimes you don’t jibe with a band. That’s cool too.", "A middle of the crowd of a rock concert is the exact scenario where you want to move someone who's unconscious as fast as possible. The only reason you wouldn't want to move someone is if there's a decent chance that they broke their neck. That said.....yeah, could certainly have been a bit more gentle with the move.", "If I had a fucking dollar lmao", "Oh I was at this show. It's a cool clip now, but when it happened we were absolutely in awe of how tight they were picking back up. Amazing boys.", "Isn’t it crazy how people see this and go “greatest band of all time,” but Travis stops his show to get one guy having a seizure to safety but he hums through it and he’s scum.", "Everything In Its Right Place might still be my favorite Radiohead song. I remember vividly because I had listened to The Bends several times over and OK Computer several times over and I was thinking, \"yeah they seem like a super solid rock band and I'm actually quite impressed by the guitarist and bassist playing, which I rarely ever notice (I'm a vocalist so I notice that most), but doesn't really excite me personally.\"\n\nWithin the first 15 seconds of Everything In Its Right Place in my old leased SUV with really good speakers, my ears perked up and I was like, \"oh...this is different.\"", "Are all these vids a counter for the Scott kerfuffle ?", "Pyramid song is fantastic. A piece of art. Really really good music.\n\nNot Kid A, but on Kid A Mnesia, so almost Kid A", "90s Radiohead was the best.", "I've seen many, many big bands do this, sometimes multiple times in a show. It's the standard. What happened this weekend was absolutely amateur and unprofessional. POS doesn't give a shit about his fans.", "I don't blame you. The first album I fell in love with by them was The King of Limbs. It gives me chills in all the good ways. I will say tho, I didn't start liking them until that moment happened. OK Computer is also wonderful. It reminds me of this 14 hour greyhound bus ride I took to Montana, it was like 1am as we were driving up the rockies and all the snow fall made it feel so alien, it was really cool. I definitely get stoned when I listen to them haha you gotta set the vibe to enjoy listening to them.", ">Everything In Its Right Place \n\nA masterpiece, hands down my favourite song of theirs.", "Because he knew it was happening, and kept playing.\n\nIn addition, he was one of the producers.", "Yeah, IMHO Ok Computer was the global soundtrack of the late 90’s/early 00’s zeitgeist.", "Lots of love for them in /r/progmetal", "Even blink 182 did this at the 2000 or 2001 big day out in new zealand.", "All these posts really highlight how bullshit Travis’s ‘Honestly I couldn’t see a thing’ comment in his response to the situation.", "dude just listen to in rainbows, it's their most accessible album", "No doubt but it meant outside of genre specific subs, I love seeing stuff like that on the main default subs", "Oh, no doubt. By the way, is your username a reference to TesseracT? Another great band.", "It's just after the 2:25 minute mark, for those who don't want to watch the whole thing.", "[ Jump to 02:25 @ Referenced Video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdbrhE4Nvec&t=0h2m25s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: allbearsrule, Video Popularity: 98.94%, Video Length: [04:36])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@02:20](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdbrhE4Nvec&t=0h2m20s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^\| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)", "It's the most popish/ melodies imo, lending to the accessibility", "\"Third Verse... my thoughts are misguided\" ... 4 count ... back in as if they never stopped - that is brilliant musicianship from them. They are locked in as group", "Yeah, I dunno man, I don't think \"there was nothing really new about National Anthem or Paranoid Android\" is the hill I'd wanna die on.", "Absolutely! In fact you might be the first person to actually recognize that haha, so that made my day. They are up in my top prog metal band favorites of all time, and I got to see them live when they went on your with Gojira (who were wild in their own right haha). \n\nGotta love Tesseracts sister band, or I guess was their sister band . Blinding White Noise was a killer album. What's your favorite Tesseract album?", "Favourite is Polaris, I think, with Altered State just a hair behind.", "Paranoid Android, huh? Famously featured on Kid A. Kid, stay in your lane. Maybe listen to the albums before chiming in on a discussion. That song was on OK Computer.", "It was rebooked at the SkyDome not the ACC.", "Right sorry.", "No, you're not following. And I give up lol.", "Ironic name.", "What's the issue with comparing?", "100% agree with u, Live Nation is the worst live show & event company that never exist. Only looking for profits far away before people safety...so sad.", "Because karma farming helps lol", "The difference is the venue and organizers fucked up and could not handle the situation. The band or artist can't know the complete situation like we do know after the fact or management does during the event. Management should have seen that the problem was large and serious and stopped the concert.", "Same song. Super random.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nEdit: Not sure what I was thinking... that's gloaming never mind. I pass out during that song too. They play it way too much.", "\"Radiohead never really did new things though.\"\n\nI know which album songs are on.", "For sure hard to pick between the two. Altered State is chef's kiss to me. What are some of your fav prog metal bands overall?", "Awareness helps surely. Evidently stopping shows when people are getting hurt isn't common sense.", "Not me!", "??? \n\nTravis legitimately don’t make good music", "Not just me, most major publications and any reputable music reviewer. I said “arguably” they’re considered arguably the greatest.\n\nI’ll stand by it.", "Isn’t that just an opinion? It’s obvious the guy makes music some people like if 100,000 bought $365 tickets just to see him. The music isn’t for me, but that doesn’t mean what he’s doing is trash.", "I’ve legit been listening to Travs music since his first mix tape..... days before rodeo is the best thing he’s made. His music heavily relies on production and auto tune and he lost his lyricism on everything after. \n\nHis shtick is making music for the “ragers” his music is high energy and at a show where you can act stupid it appeals to a younger audience. \n\nHis thing isn’t quality at all.", "To you. Not to everyone. Your opinion is not everyone’s opinion. \n\nAstroworld charted number one and his song Sicko Mode won Best Rap Performance and Best Rap Song at the Grammy Awards.", "Charting #1 does not mean anything about quality. Lol \n\nThe Grammys are also a joke and all about who kisses the most ass. They gave best album to Macklemore over Kendrick Lamar..... you’re looking mad corny.", "His album went triple platinum and averaged a 9/10 with every critic. By every metric except in your own mind, it was a great album. “Corny” because you can’t handle facts.", "7.8\n\nhttps://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/travis-scott-astroworld/\n\nLol too easy", "7.8 is bad to you? Dumbass. Do you not know what an average is?", "“9/10 with every critic” \n\nYou’re pathetically lost.", "“Averaged a 9/10 with every critic.” You’re dumb as fuck. Quote me correctly, dumbass.", "Pitchfork is one of the largest music critics on earth............... yeah, you’re blocked. You belong in an insane asylum. You can reply, I’ll never see it. I’m done here.", "Lol", "Dream Theater, Mastodon, Devin Townsend, Opeth and Meshuggah. I also have a huge soft spot for cheese, so I love most of Arjen's output." ]	270	videos	Radiohead halts a song right in the middle because they saw one person faint in the audience, made sure he got rescued and resumed playing. Toronto, 2003.
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qoq9sc/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qoq9sc/deleted_by_user/	[ "Video evidence that he IS capable when he's not too strung out and jacked up on his own clout.\n\nMakes this week all the more unforgivable", "Shame he didn't give a shit this weekend, what a cunt.", "LOL EL OH EL… so he caaan stop a show when things go wrong…. Hummmmmmmm.", "In other news...\n\n[https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/hip-hop/8015192/travis-scott-lawsuit-paralyzed-fan-nyc-concert-balcony](https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/hip-hop/8015192/travis-scott-lawsuit-paralyzed-fan-nyc-concert-balcony)\n\n[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw7eTQ08ljQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw7eTQ08ljQ)", "Yeah this doesn’t make him look better, makes him look much much worse", "Sure it does", "No - it just shows he was clearly too fucking strung out or just didn’t give a fuck this time: either way, dude is a fucking loser.", "Yes, it does, try to pay attention. If he is capable of being aware of his surroundings and stopping his show to help a fan in distress, as you have shown, then the fact that he did fuckall to help at Astroworld is much worse.", "Scott’s PR team working overtime", "Peak irony is that the post right above this one on my feed is from the same community which is titled Travis Scott sings even though he sees a dead fan being carried", "So youre saying he could have done this but chose not too? Got it, thanks for posting!", "Way to go, kid! Really well done! Just make the case for us!\n\nYou are a really special kind of stupid.", "That’s a person who cares about there fans" ]	13	videos	[deleted by user]
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qor233/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qor233/deleted_by_user/	[ "There's a cool 3 day hike in Colorado that runs down a valley past an old abandoned hydroelectric plant. There are a whole bunch oft abandoned houses fort all the people that used to work there. It's been well over ten years since I hiked it.", "Why would anyone abandon a hydroelectric power plant? Did they run out of water?", "100% closed due to asbestos dust. Hope they threw away everything they wore. Protip: Asbestos goes right through those Covid masks they are wearing and stays on your clothes after washing. It's how they found it! It killed people's wives doing laundry. There's a reason you're not supposed to \"Urbex\" power plants.", "I guess that's why when the Proper People, a famous urbex youtube team noted how bad this place was with insulation everywhere. I've not only been in this building, I can tell you it's a LOT worse than a casual level in the air. You can quote me things I have OSHA training in all day. The rest of that quote was...from that site...\n\n\"Although it is clear that the health risks from asbestos exposure increase with heavier exposure and longer exposure time, investigators have found asbestos-related diseases in individuals with only brief exposures. Generally, those who develop asbestos-related diseases show no signs of illness for a long time after exposure. It can take from 10 to 40 years or more for symptoms of an asbestos-related condition to appear (2).\n\nThere is some evidence that family members of workers heavily exposed to asbestos face an increased risk of developing mesothelioma (11). This risk is thought to result from exposure to asbestos fibers brought into the home on the shoes, clothing, skin, and hair of workers\"\n\nsource: further down that page.", "https://youtu.be/mMjChIC0kBw?t=202", "I'm very surprised that those generators are intact since each have probably a couple of tons of copper inside. Plus there is all the copper conductors, wiring and everything else. Tens of thousands of dollars sitting there unattended seems unrealistic at best!", "This looks like where Fred Kruger hung out.", "Time for a bitcoin mine :) \n\nhttps://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-green-case-for-bitcoin" ]	8	videos	[deleted by user]
https://youtu.be/1Yhpxre_TVE?t=109	/r/videos/comments/qor52d/guns_n_roses_effortlessly_fixes_a_crowd_crush/	[ "what?", "It’s three minutes or so in. He does handle it perfectly.", "Because he is cool as fuck.", "“One step back for man, one great step forward for mankind.”", "It’s not their first time, you can hear him do that in several live albums and bootlegs.", "That was flawless. The whole band dropped right into playing some placeholder music and amped it right back up again.", "Do we really need to have every older act who isn't complete human shit showcased at how they react like a normal human being to seeing others suffer or be in danger? \n\n\nInstead of a million videos of old acts being cool, let's focus on how Travis Scott acted like an inhuman piece of shit. Lording over the deaths of his own fans whilst singing \"yeaaah yeaah yeaah\" like he's a fucking alien god or some shit literally eating the souls of his fans. \n\n\nSeriously, movies were made where guys with guns shot people who did this to others.", "He's also a massive dick that kept me and a very pissed off crowd waiting for like 2 hours. \n\nI'm a wee bit salty still tbh", "Going to a Guns n' Roses show and expecting Axl to show up on time is a bit like expecting a gambling addict to be able to take care of your money.\n\nIt's a rookie mistake.", "You call that singing? Fucking auto tune shit", "I kinda feel like the type of show is really important here. At a punk, metal, or certain rock shows, there's a familiarity on the part of the audience with the dynamics of a crowd. It might be the mosh pit honestly, someone falls and the crowd knows how to react and proceeds to do so without any sort of coordination.", "The only crowd surge I was ever in was during Guns n Roses set at Giants Stadium when the shot paradise city video. Everyone knew they were shooting video and when the song started, there was a huge push. I don’t think anyone was hurt but it was still crazy.", "No mosh pits when I seen GnR in Slane a few years back, same for Iron Maiden. I think the older rock/metal crowds are pretty chill.", "GNR had a fan get trampled to death at one of their shows in England in the late 80s, early 90s. It really affected them so they are probably hyper aware of situations like that at their shows now.", "wish i could have seen this band in the early 90s", "that's cool as fuck you were at that concert, would have loved to have seen this band live in their prime", "I was walking away from the front of the stage at Donington 1988 just as they came on. I wasn't into GnR at the time so I went for a beer before Megadeth came on. Massive surge forwards, like walking up a river, they fished kids from the front as they were playing.", "He sounds like Mickey Mouse. Nice gesture though.", "Have you ever seen so many videos like this on reddit? This is happening exactly as a reaction to Travis Scott so people realize that you can have rock/metal concerts while maintaining safety. To realize of shitty Travis Scott acted you just have to look at vids like these to see the difference.", "Man, slayer concerts used to be brutal.\n\nYou were literally expected to hurt people to prevent getting trampled when up front. You didn't want to be up front at a slayer concert.", "Fair enough. It happened to me as a young kid in the 90s and I was def a rookie at the time.\n\nBrian May opened, on time, and killed it. We then Waited for two hours for Axl who played three songs, threw a tantrum, and stopped the show.\n\nI am unsurprised that he still pulls this shit, but since I am no longer a rookie I will never again pay to see him perform.", "How do people not understand how to clap in rhythm.", "i had the same experience when i saw the g'n'r and metallica tour.", "Even better, they were opening for Aerosmith and deep purple.", "Love their music, but always thought Axl being a bit of a primadonna prick. Good to see him being the \"frontman\" and showing a bit of concern fro their fans. 🤘🏻", "Starts at 2:09 for whoever wants to jump to the spot", "Yes. It's how you show people that anyone can be better.", "Been to a ton of metal shows and the bands know what songs are gonna make the crowd rowdy. And there's usually a \"IF SOMEONE FALLS DOWN, YOU PICK THEM UP. WE'RE HERE TO HAVE A GOOD TIME BUT WE CAN BE SAFE. HELP EACH OTHER!\" from the lead vocalist. The Astroworld thing is mindblowing to me that he kept performing. Sad.\n\nEdit: I remembered that I went to Louder than Life and a teenager/young adult passed out in front of me. Just shut down. His Dad was with him but the people around us started chanting “Help! help!” And opened a path like the Red Sea and security came into the crowd and took him over the rail for medical. Gave me a lot of faith in people.", "Now that’s how you do it", "These are being posted in response to the Travis Scott fans saying “that’s just how concerts are” and “people pass out all the time”. People need to see this isn’t normal.", "Axl Rose: The Duality of Man.", "I think I read somewhere he has massive stage fright. Same with Ozzy Osborne", "And don’t forget about the Montreal riot in 92… https://ultimateclassicrock.com/guns-n-roses-1992-montreal-riot/", "Yeah, I love to talk shit about Axl but he really did handle this perfectly.", "He was absolute hyper trash in his 20s but maybe he's changed since.", "Jesus fucking christ, we get it.", "If this is true, you would never know. If you watch old footage from their prime, he was fucking magnetic on stage", "Well done. It's not like people aren't going to comply too. He can just decide to stop the concert.", "It wouldn't be so bad if TS wasn't spewing out piss poor ass excuses: \"I didn't know, we didn't realize!!!\" \n\nThere's a video of him still going while a lifeless body is being carried away. And from what I've read TS isn't new to not giving a single fuck when it comes to \\[his fans\\]. He just doesn't care. Travis Scott is a piece of shit.", "[ Jump to 02:09 @ Guns N' Roses - \"You Could Be Mine\" 2016.10.29 - Santiago, Chile](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Yhpxre_TVE&t=0h2m9s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: FernandoGNR, Video Popularity: 97.29%, Video Length: [06:42])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@02:04](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Yhpxre_TVE&t=0h2m4s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^\| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)", "Travis Scott already had 3 people get trampled and hospitalized for leg injuries a few years back. Then he does this. Just a terrible human being.", "https://www.instagram.com/reel/CV9_RMSDZde/?utm_medium=copy_link", "I've never heard of Travis Scott before today, and this is just fucking boring.", "2 fans.", "Maynard James Keenan from Tool also has anxiety issues about being on stage. \n\nWhen he performs, he's commonly wearing sunglasses, masks, or is positioned to not be upstage center and his stage setups are usually fairly dark.", "So basically everyone else has no problem looking after the safety of their audience...", "I have a friend that was their roadie. Surprisingly, Axl is the nice guy and Slash is the dick head.", "It's called a vamp. \n\nIt's also used in musicals to give the crew more time to change scenery between scenes. \n\nIn jazz you can vamp until the soloist is ready. \n\nThe placeholder music is a staple of any live show. Something goes wrong and you need time? Vamp until ready.", "“Fished kids from the front”. \n\nThis. Idk wtf happened in Texas, but every show I’ve been to in 20 years had whole teams of security and perimeter pulling people to safety.", "2:13 to be exact", "Yeah, one is at least a professional tho.", ">they fished kids from the front as they were playing.\n\nIv'e seen this happen at shows before the main band ever came on stage. At a Nine Inch Nails show, A Perfect Circle was opening. Between those two bands, people were pushing forward so much, at least 3 people passed out up front, and they had to get body-passed/crowd-surfed back away from the crush of people.", "True, though in a real crush there’s no space to pick anybody up.", "> whole teams of security\n\nThose are expensive and cut into Travis Scott's profits!", "he's kind of far from the stage. claps will sound out of synch because of the time sound needs to travel to get to where he's at. if you've ever been to a live concert and stayed all the way to the back you'll know what i mean, it takes a few milliseconds for the sound to get to you.", "It happened during the filming of the Paradise City music video, not sure if it was the same show. Slash talked about it in his book, said it was horrible. A fan in Vietnam (or some country thereabouts) also killed herself when she couldn't go to their show and it fucked with them even more. They realized how insane their popularity was and how, despite their own very dangerous lifestyles, they couldn't be responsible for any more fans being hurt. Then there was that time Axl jumped into the crowd trying to kill a guy for allegedly recording the show. You can also here Axl telling the crowd to calm down after the live version of one of their songs, Mr. Brownstone I think. They were weirdly aware of how crazy their fans were despite being fucked up all the time, in Axl's case mentally more than physically.", "Again that falls on the guy with the microphone and the giant fucking speakers to move the crowd.", "I'm 99% sure two people died", "https://youtu.be/NrkGiguJdY0\n\nhttps://youtu.be/yXdKqrs8mGQ\n\nhttps://youtu.be/D2HuEwWtApk", "I mean, I get that it’s a Texas clique at this point, but he would have had to go out of his way and set of red flags to disable staff like that it seems, not so much regulation as “best practices” have been ingrained in every festival production. \n\nI mean it’s just standard to every major event planning since at least the 80’s. I’ve been In plenty of crushing pits during festivals. Never once felt unsafe. I’m not particularly tall or strong. \n\nI’m genuinely mystified as to how this—edit: was allowed to—happened.", "Gotta say axel has a huge reputation for being not so pleasant but this vid shows that not everyone is all bad and has the potential to be there for others", "Show", "Was he the promoter? Because if not that's not something he controls but he seems to not have controlled it on stage as he could have", "Went to me first concert when I was 16 (Rise Against / Billy Talent) and found myself beside a spinning whirling mass of people (I had heard of mosh pits, but had never seen one) and this guy grabs me and throws me into it. It was like a tornado of people and I was stuck. Every time I almost got out someone shoved me back. The tornado turned into jumping and bumping and this guy in a denim jacket and \"F your band\" Tshirt shoves me to my knees and hits me. I get stomped on a few times and as I'm getting back to my feet the same dude shoves me down again... So I grab him and drag him down too, and bloody my knuckles on his head until we get pulled up and apart.\n\nIf you're reading this \"F your band\" dude. Fuck you. I hope you get a twitch in your eyelid and it only goes away long enough that the irritation never gets old.", "Hmmm...wasn't the Boston Garden show by chance was it? May opened up...GnR came on and he got hit with a bottle of Sambuca (he went on a rant about who the fuck drinks Sambuca) and stopped the show for a bit. I belive it was the \"Dust n Bones\" tour in '93?", "Just a random Tuesday for them...if you're a rock/metal band that's made it to your 50s and 60s you've seen some shit and know how to handle it.", "WE KNOW PEOPLE CAN BE BETTER. I want to see this prick pinned to the fucking wall.", "Is the term short for something?", "Yes. The event is called Astroworld. He has an album called Astroworld. He’s a Houston native who puts on the festival in his home town for more than 3 years now. Of course he was producer. It’s his fucking festival.", "I honestly don't know. I've never thought about it.", "Yeah more of this, fuck you travis", "NOT EVERYONE KNOWS ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU OR EVEN MOST PEOPLE KNOW EVERYONE NEEDS TO LEARN SHIT AT THEIR OWN PACE STOP WASTING MY TIME", "It shouldn’t matter. \n\nIf you’re clapping as soon as the beat hits you, your clap will travel with the music to the people behind you and so on. \n\nThat’s the reason speakers at the sound stage work at all.", "I found more information on it as well as it's etymology if you look up \"ostinato\" on Wikipedia.", "So Travis Scott is a bigger asshole than Axl Rose? You have to be quite a piece of work to clear that hurdle.", "[From Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostinato#Vamp)\n\n&#x200B;\n\n>The slang term vamp comes from the Middle English word vampe (sock), from Old French avanpie, equivalent to Modern French avant-pied, literally before-foot.\\[32\\]\\[34\\]", "People generally have terrible rhythm.\n\nBut you're right, there is a huge issue with the distance. For every 10 feet, you get about 1ms of latency since sound travels somewhere in the ballpark of 1,000 feet per second.\n\nAnyone who has recorded in a studio may know that the threshold for starting to notice the latency of recording equipment might be around 10ms (that is my own experience anyway). That would occur with only 100 ft. Considering this in a large outdoor venue and it's no wonder the clapping is so fucked.", "Are we just going to upload every band or artist that did this ?", "the link is timestamped. it should have gone right to it.", "I know right, literally everyone there will listen to the dude with the mic", "Chris#2 in Anti Flag chants this in gigs. \"If someone falls down. Pick them back up!\"", "Slash with Miles Kennedy was amazing. If you have a chance. See it", "There was security but he actively told his crowd to antagonize them and was telling the \"green shirts\" (security was wearing green for visibility) to back the fuck up. He's personally to blame for each of those deaths.", "and there probably weren't people being injected without consent in this audience by a random person. Definitely respect to GNR for taking action on the issue at this concert.", "Many musicians have a mental switch as soon as they are on stage. Steve Harris from Iron Maiden, for example, is often described as a very shy and introverted person, but as soon as he steps in front of a crowd he turns into a stage animal.", "At rise against lol so hardcore\n\nPeople will mosh to any damn thing haha", "As far as I'm concerned if you've reached the age of 10 and not learned that ignoring people dying around you is bad, you deserve to be shot in the face.", "They’re absolutely incredible. They’ll play for three hours straight like nothing.", "I think it was Billy Talent they were trying to kill me to.", "He watched someone be carried out and kept singing. It was appalling.", "On that note, took me forever to realize \"cultivar\" was short for \"cultivated variety.\"", "See them now. It’s still an incredible show.", "Not defending him and I don't know the facts but just because he's the face and/or owner of the festival doesn't mean he is the organiser or in charge of booking security for the event.", "That's what blows my mind too. Every hardcore show I've been too, everyone was hyper aware of someone falling. \n I was crowd surfing at a motorhead show in the 90s and when I dropped into the crowd there was a sea of arms reaching for me, going back 5-10 deep on every side. It's always been one of my favourite memories.", "A lot of TS fans are defending his actions and saying he did nothing wrong", "I hope he's sued for everything he's got!", "No worries the video of him ignoring the dead fans is good enough to fill that “benefit of the doubt” argument on its own.", "Don't know the facts, has opinion. But seriously the more I learn about this incident the more it sounds like this Travis Scott guy made an extremely unsafe situation.", "I didn't state an opinion? Just pointed out that he wasn't necessarily in charge of security for the event.\n\nBesides, I clearly said that I'm not defending him. I agree with you in that from what I've heard about it he sounds like a twat who is (in part) responsible. But that would be stating my opinion...", "[Relevant post on crowd crushes.](https://np.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/3pcvfb/saudi_arabia_hajj_disaster_death_toll_at_least/cw5vxtm/?context=3)\n\n>Basically when people start to move in very high density crowds, each individual physically doesn't have enough space around them to behave like a normal person who acts based on decisions anymore, but rather the entire crowd starts moving like a fluid, forced forward by the pressure of the people walking forwards behind them. We're talking densities of 5+ people per square meter (you can roughly equate 4 people per square meter to being in a tightly packed crowd but still being able to move 360 degrees, just brushing up on people on all 4 sides. At about 5-6 people/meter2 you start to lose that freedom of movement). The crowd starts to literally behave by the laws of fluid dynamics, and can experience shockwaves that ripple up and back through the mass of people when a push comes from any given direction... anyone who's been in a moshpit knows what I'm talking about.\n\n>These crowd densities aren't dangerous in themselves until you start reaching more than 8+ people/meter2 , however starting at about 5-6 they become extremely risky to facilitate movement in for two major reasons: 1) the risk of hitting a choke point and 2) the risk of someone falling over.\n\n>The first one results in what is called 'crowd crush'. This is where you have an extremely large and high density crowd, typical for those seen at events like the Hajj, moving in one direction in a confined space. This can be as wide as a city block or as narrow as a hallway. The crowd will be moving in its desired direction, but as soon as it hits a choke point, such as a blocked entrance, a sharp turn, a single open doorway, or even another high density crowd coming from the opposite direction, the people at the front face a serious problem. They are not merely walking anymore, they are being carried in the crowd fluid and could not stop if they tried (and would probably fall over). Survivors of crushes have described the experience like you're being carried by a river of people. The people at the very front of the crowd (who are not at dangerous densities) will make it through the choke point, unless it's a blocked entrance of course, but the high density crowd inevitably follows, carried by force. If the choke point is too narrow for the entire crowd to fit through, people literally just plug it up and are unable to squeeze through the gap anymore, and are being evermore crushed by the force of people behind them. For a morbid but good example of this, watch the video of the Station Nightclub fire that happened in 2001 2003 (NSFW/NSFL). For those who don't want to watch, basically what happened is a fire broke out in a nightclub, and nobody really bothered to run for the emergency exits (plus some other things but another post entirely) but instead all pushed for the front door. When the crowd density trying to leave the club out of the double doors became too great, the people got stuck and knocked over in the doorway, and bodies kept piling on top of more bodies from the flow of people behind until there was a helpless 6ft high pile of people with their heads and arms sticking out the front door packed too tightly for anyone on the outside to wedge them free.\n\n>Here's the fucked up part though: people do not die from being 'trampled' as if everyone is wildly running around and stepping on each other, in fact there's literally no way that's possible because people couldn't be running around in high density crowds even if they wanted to. What they die from is compressive asphyxiation (yes, suffocation by crushing) from the sheer force of all of the weight of bodies being stacked on top of them. In the worst of choke points, a completely blocked exit, people can be crushed standing up because they breathe out and simply cannot overcome the pressure of all of the people around them to breathe back in. That happens at densities of about 12+ p/sqm. 'Crowd pressure' has been known to collapse walls, bend steel guard rails, and of course kill a shitload of people.\n\n>The next scenario, and in my opinion the much more horrifying one, is crowd collapse. This happens when a high density crowd is moving and someone falls over. If you can imagine yourself in a fluid-like crowd, the pressure of the person behind you pushes you forward, and in turn you exert the pressure on the person in front of you, facilitating the crowd's (the fluid's) movement. If suddenly the person in front of you falls, they are no longer there for you to 'lean on' (to exert pressure on to), and guess what? You fall too. And the person behind you. And the person behind them, and anyone who tries to help someone else up, all just being pushed against their will into the new wall of bodies in front of them. The crowd collapses behind the original hole. Aaaaand now you have a choke point, just made of bodies. Surprisingly even here the main cause of death is almost always compressive asphyxia rather than trampling, as the pressure just gets too great when you have 2000lb of flesh on top of you. The crowd doesn't even have to be moving very fast for this to happen (or even can be stationary in the case of a grandstand collapse ), and is especially dangerous when the people are moving down a steep or slippery slope.\n\n>Here's the kicker: in both of these scenarios the death tolls are so high because the people in the back of the crowd, propagating the crowd force, are almost always too far away to know what's going on at the crush point. These sorts of crowds are extremely noisy and essentially impossible to stick your head up and over to get a better view, this combined with the fact that the back of crowds are usually at safe densities and people have no reason to panic and just keep walking means that the people at the front have no choice but to be crushed. Or in the case of a fire, where people sometimes are aware of what's happening in the front, they will simply keep pushing because it's either that or wait to die, worsening the crush at the front. Hundreds upon hundreds of people can be screaming for help and for people to stop or turn back... the ones who can hear them are already too stuck in the flow to do anything, and the ones who can do something can't hear.", "Lol. I’ve been to many shows where the lead singer asks the crowd to “take one step back”. Does he mean that figuratively?", "\"TS fans\" are a redundant meaningless thing at this point. Just like Chris Brown fans. And posting videos of old artists doing half decent things to help prevent crowd crushes is not going to change the minds of people who think he's great.", "Even small venue shows I've been to had guys up front to pull kids over the barricade if they were getting crushed. They typically end up just catching surfers but they are there all the same.", "Mosh pits are super chill. Everyone is still friends. It's just a way to get rid of that pent up energy.", "Crowd crush always seemed really terrifying", "I was at a Billy Talent show once where people kept getting crowdsurfed and pushed up onto the stage snd taken off by security. The singer would like tap his head, mouth \"watch their heads\" and eventually I think someone got dropped. I dont think anyone got hurt but he completely stopped the show and went \"dad's mad\" on the crowd and said \"this isn't a limp bizkit show\" fucking savage", "Wow, the same thing happened here in St. Louis. \n\n [30 years ago: The night Axl Rose tore up Riverport](https://www.stltoday.com/entertainment/music/30-years-ago-the-night-axl-rose-tore-up-riverport/collection_8221a9da-006c-56a1-86b7-63c6c2d5b7c5.html#1). \n\nEdit: found a documentary about it on youtube \nhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=1qVzAA-v3qM&feature=share", "Slayers double live album from 90s, right before war ensemble, they say this same thing basically", "Fuck travis scott", "link?", "Travis Scott stops show to help fan\n\nhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ml9EGK5OaNo", "Not just sued civilly, but also tried criminally.", "Same with Pearl Jam after Roskilde in 2000. 9 people died in a crowd crush", "Same with Pearl Jam. They had a few fans die in a surge at a festival and they definitely don’t fuck around with this stuff now.", "That’s true but keep in mind metal shows just have pretty general cultural awareness of pit formation space. Moshing and circle pits in general just create space in the crowd and can do a pretty good job of preventing a crush from building. \n\nThen again, I got knocked out in a wall of death in Ozzfest 2004 so maybe metal isn’t always the best example (my friends think I caught an elbow? not really sure.)", "Ha so you're basically saying like the ja rule and the fire festival situation. Except Scott actually showed up to perform.", "Ah, pit etiquette. I'm too old for the pit now, but I have such warm memories of the last time I (F) was in one. It eventually started getting out of hand because of idiot pit ninjas. A dude literally about 4x my size just took a few steps forward, placing himself between me and the pit, turned his head back to look me in the face, gave me a friendly knowing nod, then gently pushed the pit ninja to the other side of the stage. Except the dude was about 6'6\" and at least 375bs, so his light shove sent the pit ninja flying lol. \n\n\nHe had no ulterior motives, never tried to hit on me. Just a decent wall of a dude making sure the tiny people in the pit were safe. <3", "I was at a festival years ago and got pushed over in a crush when Panic at the Disco was on, who did nothing.\n\nBilly Talent came on next and the singer yelled “if you see someone fall down pick em up!”. Been a fan ever since.", "Seeing all these bands and performers fix, correct, and handle crowds it makes me realize how much extra work they have to do and how much they care for their fans safety who attend their events.\n\nIt really makes me wonder since this has happened before with Travis Scott if he intended for people to die or get mangled in order to draw publicity? Fucked up I know, but seeing stark comparisons in the video the other day and how all these other performers have handled crowds.\n\nMaybe it's just because all the ones posted are of great people and performers who care, but if that's the case it tells you in general that Travis Scott at least just doesn't give a shit about his fan at the bare minimum.\n\nStill kind of surprised teenagers were killed at a concert and still hard to wrap my head around the general chaos behind it.", "Wild guess, they used to do a sock puppet show when all else failed.", "Don't let this stop you from going.... I saw them in New Orleans right before covid and I thought they were sounding pretty good. I think axl's voice is coming back as he sings more.\n\nAlso be prepared for slash's look. Man looks jacked now, like a monster body lifter.", "I went crowd surfing at a tiny venue in SoCal and got tossed into that front section and a security guard picked me back up literally within seconds of hitting the ground, ass first. I don’t even think my whole body had fully settled onto the ground yet. \n\nPulled me up and I made eye contact, gave him a big smile and mouthed a very obvious THANK YOU and he patted me on the back before directing me to the side area to get back to the floor.", "His iq is something ridiculous like 157. It's not difficult to see how that could make you maladjusted as a young man.", "I saw tool once and was so excited.... But it was awful. Like listening to an album at home but with $10 beers.\n\nHe stood behind the drummer. Lights nearly off, and they cut the video screens off, so if you weren't in the first ten rows you couldn't see shit. Would not recommend.", "There was an older guy I talked to growing up in my neighborhood. He worked in finance, but when he was younger he was in a band in LA during the 80's. He hung out with Axl a few times and said he was cool as fuck. One story I remember: my neighbor, Axl, and a few others went out to the bars for a boys night. Right off the bat Axl finds a girl and is with her the whole night. He then leaves early with the said girl and is gone for the rest of the night. The next afternoon, Axl stopped by my neighbor's apartment with doughnuts as an apology for dipping out early on them.", "My wife and I saw Puscifer in 2015 and it was am awesome show, lots of theatrics along with the music. \n\nSucks to hear you had a bad time.", "No, no one died at the Giants stadium. 2 people died in the UK at a festival. \n\nThere is also footage from that concert in the Paradise City video though.", "Exact thing happened to me more than once as a young lady in the pit during a few Warped Tours. Security, band members, and members of the crowd were always helpful and courteous (as far as mosh pits go)", "Can always expect reddit to circlejerk about rock/metal", "There may be others, but they're probably referring to this clip, where he just keeps performing, as he watches security/paramedics carry a lifeless person out of the crowd:\n\n[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0CpuwQlxVc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0CpuwQlxVc)", "Travi, TAKE NOTE!", "Sadly not suprised by the PATD thing. Brendan Urie seems like the type to be happy his fans are stumbling and trampling on people to get close to him.", "there's this one that makes it look like he just continues while an unconscious person is lifted out of the crowd\n\n[https://twitter.com/i/status/1456980583280746505](https://twitter.com/i/status/1456980583280746505) \n\nbut then there's also this one that shows him directing help to someone passed out\n\n[https://twitter.com/i/status/1456990256335572995](https://twitter.com/i/status/1456990256335572995) \n\n&#x200B;\n\nback to the point of liability of Travis Scott in all this, he definitely instructs crowds to create a more chaotic environment, but seems to reign it in when it becomes apparent someone needs help, so overall as a performer probably not criminally liable, but civilly he'll probably have to pay out damages to those that died and injured\n\nshocked pikachu face of quotes here, \"make it feel like the WWF\" to \"omg how could this ever have happened\"\n\n[https://news.yahoo.com/travis-scotts-habit-cheering-wild-212534597.html](https://news.yahoo.com/travis-scotts-habit-cheering-wild-212534597.html) \n\n“I always want to make it feel like it’s the WWF or some shit. You know, raging and having fun and expressing good feelings is something I plan on doing and spreading across the globe.”\r \n\r \n“We don’t like people who just stand,” he added. “This is a no-stand zone.”\r \n\r \nOn Saturday, the rapper signaled disbelief at the violent turn of events in his Texas hometown.", "Phil what about some lights?", "As a young lady at 90s punk shows, I honestly always felt safe (as safe as mosh pits go) Of course I got knocked around like everyone else, but there were countless incidents that could have gone south for me or my friends if it wasn't for everyone having, as you say, good pit etiquette and genuinely looking out for one another.", "Thank you for sharing this. I hadn't seen it before and I think I should have, given the shit we're seeing about him now.", "Having designated mosh pits seems to actually help quell surges to some degree. They create a buffer zone, usually towards the front of the crowd. The best managed crowds I've seen have been at shows with multiple designated mosh pits at varying distance to the stage. For shows that don't generally have pits, venues and organizers need to do a better job of managing crowds to avoid surges all together.", "Vancouver, BC completed the GnR riot trifecta in 2002 after Axl no-showed: http://www.mtv.com/news/1458577/fans-riot-after-guns-n-roses-tour-kickoff-canceled-kurt-loder-reports/\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eJtXJ_Rpe4", "I had no idea who Travis Scott was until any of this came about. Everything I've read has shown me all I need to know.", "The clip you're talking about is way out of context though. ([Context](https://twitter.com/aidanauri/status/1456990256335572995?s=20)) If you watch the full context Travis Scott is the one who stops the show because he sees someone he thinks has passed out.\n\nPeople keep acting like he's a piece of shit for this but this is 100% on the venue and organizers for not taking safety precautions when they KNEW this was going to be a big show. We need to stop letting venues and organizers pass the buck like this.", "Yes, every post being the same thing is boring as hell.", "Saw them twice on Not In This Lifetime....both unbelievable shows", "Sorry but signaling to have security help, then continuing the performance kind of invalidates that argument. Ambulances couldn’t get to the wounded….", "This is like the game the Grateful Dead played, take 2 steps back.", "I've been to two of those \"Gathering of the Juggalos\" festivals around the 2010s (don't worry I don't care about how magnets work, as long as they work,) and they always had some lesser-known artists opening up for the Headliners (ICP, Twiztid, other artists on Psychopathic Records at the time.) \n\nOnly time I found myself in a crush was right before Twiztid took the stage in 2011, if my substance abused brain is working properly at the moment (it was the one the Tila Tequila thing happened at. Wild year comparatively.) \n\nHate em, love em, or straight dgaf about em, of all the shows I've been to - Gathering or normal tours - I haven't seen, felt, or heard of any crushes at an ICP show. Concussions, contusions, and lacerations, sure; but nobody got dead. Granted it ain't millions of folks attending like some actual popular mofos would, but I'm pretty sure all that Faygo flying off the stage at 65mph \"helps.\" \n\nI still have a scar on my left ear from catching a ballistic 3 litre of Diet Root Beer to the dome during the Wicked Wonka Tour :3", "I’m not massively into their music, but I’ve seen Anti-Flag twice at festivals and the way they start and work the pit is incredible. They even got a circle pit going and disassembled the drums and put them in the middle and the singer climbed on top of them too. \n\nThe amount of movement was amazing, but no one seemed to get hurt and everyone had an awesome time, and yeah, the message of helping each other out was right there throughout. \n\nRespect.", "I've seen it happen at few big shows, Blink 182 at Wembley had a steady flow of kids being lifted out of the pit when they got overwhelmed. Partially why I prefer a smaller venue, you just can't get the numbers to generate the same level of crush even at way heavier shows, plus the pit seems to be better at self regulating at smaller sizes.\n\nIt's far worse outdoors and in mud, I remember one year at Reading the final day's line-up was built for crushes, it was Bullet for my Valentine, Turbonegro, Alkaline Trio, Funeral for a Friend, NOFX, Iggy and the Stooges, Incubus, Marilyn Manson and then Iron Maiden. It was the last day so the ground was pretty torn up and the stage was at a bottom of a slight hill so people further back would be able to see - between gravity, mud and volume of people it got a bit hairy up front.\n\nThe pit was a bit tense too because loads of old huge biker-looking Maiden fans showed up and camped out at the front and just glared at Incubus and Marilyn Manson and their fans while they waited for Maiden to come on.\n\n...sorry this devolved into an old man remembering gigs, bottom line most venues and bands know how to handle this shit and have done for years.", "I find that mosh pits are very localised in concerts. Basically everyone in one needs to want to be in it, and if someone doesn't want to be involved they generally move to the ring of people around it that you don't mess with.\n\nI've definitely seen people \"misbehave\" in mosh pits, but they get put down super fast, and it's all about having a lot of fun, with people looking out for one another, pointing out untied shoes, noticing people who maybe had a bit too much to drink etc.\n\nI really love all concerts where fans are usued to getting physical like that because it naturally breeds that fun but cautious atmosphere.", "Was hoping for more, for sure. On the other hand, we walked from that stage due to the lack of excitement and stumbled into a die antwoord show. Now, I don't listen to them at home, but I would definitely go to another of their shows. That shit was entertainment.", "from the sound of things it was people going down a few rows back from the barrier that caused pockets of people getting pushed on top of other people who had fallen over so you ended up with what one person there called \"human sinkholes\" in the crowd which were 3 or 4 people deep before the ground, rather than people being crushed against the barrier itself.", "Is this just some random trend to post bands controlling crowds now? Didn't we just need one? What's the point of multiple bands doing the exact same thing?", "Juggalos are generally good people that happen to idolize a posse of insane clowns. It's a weird scene and i dont know much but I've been to one show. It's all about family and radical unconditional acceptance. There's all these idioms and chants. And the faygo. Im not surprised the crowd control is on point at the gathering", "At the last Astroworld in 2019 which was half the capacity of the 2021 one iirc", "I dont even know any of his songs, why would I know any of the rest?", "I went to a Hallowicked show back in like 2004 or 2005. At one point, a kid near me lost his glasses, and everyone around moved back a couple feet to help find them on the floor. Once they were found, we all went back to jumping around / having fun. It was great time, even though I was drenched in Faygo.", "Me and a friend of mine went to a Circle Jerks concert years ago with my friend’s sister and her boyfriend who was a football player. We met up with some of his football player buddies and a couple times they fished us off the floor when we got knocked down. It was pretty funny to see a big burly guy dip down and come up holding this scrawny kid by the shirt. Great show. We had all had a blast.", "I love die antwoord, never been to their shows but Ilove their entire vibe.", "Multiple are being posted because of the events of Astroworld Festival yesterday where eight people died due to crowd crush.", "Slash looks like he's playing himself in a porn parody", "I'm huge into dubstep and every show I go to we hear basically this exact thing. Pits are always rowdy but it's very rare to see anyone actually get hurt, and when it does happen everyone stops almost immediately.", "God damn, of course it is. Thanks for that", "Fuck, this makes me want to find the clip of Axl Rose leaping off stage to fight some dude.", "I have never heard of them before this incident either, But I have an Internet connection…", "Okay, but I'm kind of missing a bit of autotuned YEAAH-ing in there.", "Yup, I got thrown over a barrier at Warped a couple years back and the only reason I didn't get messed up because a security guard saw it coming and I caught myself on his shoulders like I was trying to do pushups off of him.", "I’ve seen a video of them trying, but they were packed in so tightly I thought they were about to dislocate something pulling the guy out!", "So what you're saying is he knew what to do, but chose not to. \n\nThis video clearly shows he knows you stop the show and have people take a couple steps back for medical emergencies.", "Over the years I've learned there's no difference between fandoms when you hit a certain amount of followers; but it surely doesn't help that the music and lyrics appeal to a certain mindset of folks that'll happily take that shit seriously. \n\nI love my \"family,\" to an extent, and just like my real life family, some of em deserve a good, long therapy session and to be kept away from sharp objects and certain people. Same kind of folks exist in the Religious sects, Crossfit/\"Fit-fam\"/\"Gym Rat\" lifestyles, gamers, Brony subculture, Whovians, Harry Potter...ers? Anything that requires a subjective preference, really.", "They are my top band. Going bowling with them was the best thing ever. Yeah Pat Hetic the drummer goes into the crowd a good bit. It's amazing. It's amazing how much the crowd help too. Chris gets in the crowd too playing the bass while crowd surfing", "Holy shit are people going to post every band that has ever spoken to a crowd?", "WELCOME TO THA JUNGLE BABY, YOU GONNA BE RESPECTFUL TO OTHERS AND SAAAAAAAAFE", "Similar thing happened to me in the 90s at a Megadeth show. My shoe got untied, and someone saw that the people next to me were stepping on them and I was sort of tripping. They made a barrier around me until I could get my shoe tied. Then the biggest of the bunch tapped me on the shoulder, and pointed \"up\". I nodded \"yes\", and he picked me up, tossed me forward, and that's the story of how I crowd-surfed for the first time. later that same show, I was doing it again, and I was getting passed backwards, to where the crowd was less dense. I was about to get dropped on my head, when two guys caught me by my ankles, hanging me upside down. They helped me get right-side-up, and continued to enjoy the show, injury free.", "I was going to say a lot of these videos rubbing it in over the crowd crush thing are all from bands and musicians who have been around for a while and probably have had injuries or deaths in previous concerts. Except for mark roublilileeaaya", "That’s because they care about their fans.", "what is WWF?", "This is an entirely different level of crowd size. Once a crush starts people can't just reach out to help you up. Everybody is squished together.", "Slipknot show in like 2004, I was right up front on the security rail and as soon as they started playing I was getting squashed. There were several times I was lifted off my feet just from the push forward. And then, from all the movement, my stupid fucking pants fell down and it was so tight and crowded I literally could not bend down to pull them up, couldn’t reach with my arm, so yeah, stood there and watched at least two songs in my skivvies with my pants around my ankles. When they stopped to talk to the crowd for a minute between songs is when things finally loosened up enough to where I could finally move and pull the fuckers back up. My poor brother got kicked in the face by a crowd surfer which popped a lens out of his glasses and then like five minutes later someone from the pit flew into him and the other lens got knocked out. And he’s one of those blind as a bat without his glasses types so he was pissed because the whole show minus the first two songs was blurry as fuck. It was still a great show tho. And I’ve had plenty of fun times at plenty of rowdy shows, been kicked, punched, knocked down, had crowd surfers fall on my head, all that shit. I’m too goddamn old now. This whole Astroworld thing is heinous, that dude better lawyer up because he’s up fucked river now.", "Huh. That makes sense but I never made that connection either", "Yeah, there are many bands that had this happen and thankfully learned something from it. \n\nToten Hosen had a girl trampled in 1997 and police forced them to continue to prevent panic in the 60000+ fans. There were none of those barriers they use now to split up the crowd.", "Not only if they get crushed, it's the only way out if you are in the front. Also people are there sometimes for hours and just collapse. And crowd surfers end up in the front too.", "I really really thought this was going to be the video of Axl tackling the photographer.", "You know, ten or fifteen more of these videos and I may start to think that Travis Scott fellow isn’t so swell.", "LiveNation has their fingers crossed that all these examples keep the heat on Travis Scott and off their lazy, slipshod, profit-seeking asses.", "\"just because he's the face of the festival, the organizer of the festival, and the act onstage at his festival actively making things worse doesn't mean it's his fault\".\n\nRolls eyes", "Never said any of that. Don't put words in my mouth.", "Ja fleeced people out of money and inconvenienced them.\n\nTravis got people killed.", "Being informed before you contribute is sexy.", "The people aren't always messed up. Sometimes it's just easier than trying to squeeze your way back out. I've had people surf me over the rail because I wanted a beer before.", "I heard Duff interviewed about it once. He said they started the Appetite for Destruction tour as either club dates or opening for acts like Motley Crue but ended it by selling out venues like Giants stadium.\n\nSo after a year on the road Duff says he gets back to his place in LA and figures he'll go buy some cigarettes and swing by one of his old hangouts for a drink like he did before the tour started. He got as far as the corner store for the cigarettes before a crowd started forming with people were leaning out of their cars honking horns, people grabbing his clothes, etc.\n\nThen he says, \"And I'm the fucking bassist. Literally the most anonymous member of any band. If it was like that for me, can you imagine what it must have been like for Axl? It would be impossible to stay sane.\"\n\nEDIT: Grammer.", "I almost passed out at a Nirvana show in '93 and for a brief bit feared for my life. My arms got caught over the barricade at the front and I couldn't pull them back in. Barricade was just higher than my sternum, so it was just the crowd compressing my chest as it surged forward again and again. Terrifying. I got pulled out and did NOT wade back into the crowd. Watched the rest of the show from the back.", "i love this so much", "Great story and good knowledge!", "They get a bad rap but they are just a very specific type of weird and actually have a lot of crossover with hippie and metal show etiquette.\n\nHonestly, worst crowd I've been in was Tech N9ne. Awesome show, but it was a weird mix of bros, juggalos, and the worst aspects of metal shows.", "It's pretty mind-blowing how well they've come back, as far as shows are concerned. When it was basically an Axl solo band, shows were very hit or miss, with lots of misses, but these last couple of years almost everyone has walked away saying how on point they are right now.\n\nI think it helps that Axl has seemed to find some inner peace and isn't a wild man anymore. I don't know what he's done in that regard, I don't follow his personal stuff, I only know that by all accounts he's way easier to deal with than he's ever been.", "Axl is an asshole and even he cares about the health and wellbeing of his fans.", "I got a chance to see them in Vegas right after they reunited and I was absolutely floored by how amazing slash is…. I mean I always knew it, but to see it in person… it’s just so effortless for him. They would put him up on the big screens for solo’s and the entire audience would just stand in awe.", "Yet they left Metallica out to dry after Hetfueld got blown up.", "Same tour, Lowell show. Was in the pit.\n\n Apparently two 300 lb dudes locked arms in the center of the pit, spun as fast as possible and let go. I turned around just in time to catch this dude directly to the chest and I got launched into the fucking shadow zone. I went through like 12 rows of people but it was so packed that the crowd just compressed and I didn't fall down.\n\n10/10 would do again.", "You didn't say anything important. The only thing of merit you said was \"I don't know the facts\".", "Oh, for sure...but these people were clearly unconscious/limp like sacks of wet sawdust.", "He seems to have humbled a little in his later years…. I’m sure going from being in one of the most popular bands in the world will give you a big head, but falling as far into obscurity after the original band broke up probably has a rather sobering effect.", "As an ancient man, I miss stage diving and body surfing.", "Yeah, idk that he's that up on his pitettiqute:\n\nhttps://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/qojpzu/travis_scott_crowdsurfs_then_as_a_kid_allegedly/", "Went to a Flogging Molly show and some guy slipped and was bleeding from his head. Lead singer stopped the show and made sure everyone gave the guy and medics room for a bit until he was moved out. Gave everyone a heads up once they got word the guy was alright.\n\nIt's easy to do if you aren't a pile of shit like Travis Scott", "Two fans. It wasn't one of their shows specifically, and crowd safety in those days was much less good. \n\n> they are probably hyper aware of situations like that at their shows now\n\nThey're probably much more aware of most things now, as most of them were totally off their faces the whole time, with Axl being the relatively straight one.", "Hey mister lightman", "Oh yeah that's bad.\n\nI wasn't talking about this Travis Scott show in general btw.", "\"Who asked me to stop? You all know what you came here to do.\" - Travis Scott", "I saw them a couple months ago. He showed up exactly on time. Saw them about four years ago and he did the same thing. Saw them in 1992 and he was 3 hours late. Seems like he's grown-up.", "folks really out here blaming Travis Scott huh", "He already has been apparently. Granted the source is the spin so take it with a grain salt(i dont know their reputation and havent double checked) \n\n\nhttps://www.spin.com/2021/11/travis-scott-sued-over-predictable-and-preventable-astroworld-tragedy/", "Why reply then? \n\nI never once claimed that he wasn't at fault or tried to defend Travis Scott. Just pointed out the fact that he probably wasn't actually in charge of organising the security for the event. There are plenty of other reasons that he does seem to be at fault for though.", "Jesus when Axl Rose is the pillar of goodness you know you've fucked up.", "Do we know for sure he had any idea what was going on? I've been on stage, when you got those lights in your face sometimes you can't see shit.", "Pro move right there. Band keeps jamming the groove, Axl sets the crowd straight, keep it moving. 💯", "Damn. I wish I had nice friends like that.", "if he is the owner of the event then he therefore pays people to organise the event for him, and therefore they work for him, therefore he is ultimately responsible for anything that goes wrong", "Reddit should cancel GNR over that initial trampling imo.\n\nAlso cancel the rolling stones over altimont.", "I was at a Lamb of God show a few years ago, and despite putting on some earth-shaking mosh pits, it was always controlled. The band always made sure everyone was alright, put a break in a few songs to get people on their feet etc. The stage they were at held about 15k people, 10k of which were in a gigantic circle pit and nobody got seriously injured. Travis Scott really needs to reconsider how he’s conditioned his fans with the “fuck you” attitude his concerts are famous for.", "This is one of the most incredible things I have ever seen at any show. We had come up from the field and were sitting in the seats of the stadium. They asked the crowd to move back and on the count of three the entire crowd moved back as one. Twice.\n\nIt was beautiful, man...", "My brother and I went to see GWAR/Dickies/X-Cops at the Palladium when I was backpacking through LA in 1994. We got up to the front and started chatting to this huge dude (I swear blind he was Tad Doyle) about the differences in US and UK moshpits whilst we waited for GWAR to come on. \n\nAs the lights came up and GWAR walked on, he grabbed the railing at the front, turned to me and my brother and said \"this is gonna get fucking crazy, hang on to these\" nodding at his arms.\n\nIt was like a hurricane, hanging onto this guy's arms whilst we got pulled off the floor. Thank you huge stranger.", "Except for that one show in Montreal.", "I had to pull a person out of a pit before. Shit goes crazy fast sometimes.", "Not just the bands but the fans too. When I was younger it was almost always the biggest, baddest looking dude putting guys or girls in check that got out of control or helping people up that fall.", "Come for the band being bros, stay for the good tunes.", "I don't think there is a metal band out there whose members haven't been in a mosh pit and know what to look out for.", "I learned about vamp from watching episodes of The Newsroom. Vamping for a newscaster means they must work without a teleprompter, giving news updates during a breaking story when there's no time to cue up a script on the teleprompter. The teleprompter will literally say \"VAMP\". A news reporter who can successfully vamp is at the top of the skill level, I think.", "Let’s get some house lights on these fuckers", "A was in a band in high school and our drummer got stabbed in a GNR crowd. That was before they had really made it big, but they were certainly already awesome.", "I've never been to a punk, hardcore or modern metal show where the audience didn't know the etiquette. Someone goes down, pick them up. Someone surfs, keep an eye on their noggin. You find glasses, wallet, whatever, you hold that shit up in the air. Worst thing that ever happened to me was getting domed by a loose elbow. The dude was cool about it and bought me a beer.", " \"people up here are getting really fucking smashed.\"", "Any decent band or management knows how to handle crowds.\n\nMy Aunt was at the Beatles show in Vancouver in 1964. She was in the front row and was getting crushed until a nice guy put his arms up against the fence and gave her some room to breathe. Red Robinson came on stage and told the crowd to clam down or the show would be cancelled.\n\nAll the metal shows I went to in the 80s, anyone went down or the crowd got too wild, a few words from the band was all that was needed to settle it down.\n\nThese hypebeast clowns are animals.", "Smashing Pumpkins had a show in Ireland where someone got trampled to death during Zero. Because the fans liked to record every show, there is audio of it.", "What a cunt.", "Pearl Jam is that way as well, they are super careful about these things", "Maybe recognize a question when you see one dummy", "Edit: sorry about the length. \n\nSeeing that type of contrast first-hand was really eye opening as a youngin', and I seriously think I needed to see that to get my dumb ass to act right. That Wicked Wonka show had some massive, hambone-looking guy, probably ~450lbs wide, standing in the pit like a bumper in a pinball machine. Someone jumped on him like a spider monkey and started swinging, the crowd snatched his ass off and got him out the door so damn quick you'd've thought someone planned it. Hambone's lip and eyebrow got split, and some chick with a fanny pack got him all cleaned up, and right back into the pit he went. This is in Georgia, and the only venue that booked Psychopathic was The Masquerade; those rooms were so packed the crowd basically became a solid mass during some sets. \n\nAh man, at that 2011 Gathering, I went to the Wolf Pac tent for their Boobies and Blood Bash (or something idk; don't do dru... do drugs responsibly kids,) and one guy got *way* too handsy with the strippers/dancers on stage; namely that Jade Jolie chick who was just walking around asshole nekkid (well, she had flip flops,) the whole time. Not something I'd suggest to do at a music festival with thousands of hormone-pumped goons, but folks stayed relatively respectful. Except this particular asshole. \n\nSome absolute unit of a bastard, had to be running security, dressed in urban camo and a hockey mask, grabbed the dude from rear, by the collar of his shirt and belt, and just straight body slammed his ass. Two other Jasons casually glided through the pit, folks ricocheting off em left and right, picked his folded ass up, and carried him out to the security van, likely to have him booked. They didn't play around with folks being openly creepy or violent, which is weird for a band associated with Psychopathic. \n\nDozen or so minutes later the rum and oxy convinced my scrawny ass to jump in the pit, shit was fun as fuck... then I ran into one of the Jasons. \n\nNext thing I knew I felt something cold on my shoulder, so I looked up, and found out it was the fucken ground. Dude didn't budge an inch from me slamming into him, just casually squatted down, offered a hand to help me up, I took it, and he nearly flung my ass across the tent lifting me up he was so jacked. Think I weighted maybe 200lbs at the time. I was like a fucking rag doll to him, he just yanked me in for one of those \"bro-hugs\" with a pat on the back, said \"you good?\" I nodded, then without missing a beat he flung my ass right back into the pit. \n\nThe contrast between the sheer Chaos, and then suddenly folks just making sure nobody gets fucked up was... I guess just an alien concept to me at the time. Like, you can be as crazy, geeked, balls-to-the-wall nutty as you want, but everyone here to have fun; don't fuck that up or you're gonna stop having fun real quick. \n\nShit like that I think people need to experience once in their lives. You can have plenty fun, act plenty a fool, without making someone else miserable, or hurting someone. Granted its kinda fucked up I technically learned that from ICP and them, but a lesson's a lesson. \n\nThe topic of this post is a tragedy one way or another, but if whoever was on stage was actively egging on the crowd to \"ignore security,\" his ass needs to be held accountable. Folks' minds ain't right in those sorts of situations; you got hormones, substances, basically guaranteed anonomity, thousands upon thousands of 100kg or more human beings packed together, moving and swaying like a legit ocean. Humans in large numbers ain't no joke, it becomes a whole new, emergent - and dangerous - \"creature,\" and every year there's a new story to remind folks of that.", "WWE wrestling used to be called WWF before they lost trademark dispute to WWF world wildlife fund. I doubt travis scott was referring to wwf as in the endangered species non profit", "eddie vedder hanging from 50ft up on a scaffold: guys pls be safe", "\\>a few fans\n\n9.\n\n9 people died, it was even worse than Astrofest.\n\nWeird that Vedder never got the level of criticism that Travis Scott is getting... i wonder why.", "Oh man--if he said that as this show, that's definitely gonna be used as evidence...", "Damn, I would have bet ten bucks that it's short for \"vampire\" as in play something lifeless but still going", "I had this exact same thing happen at a NIN show like 15 years ago or so. Crowd was swaying in one huge unit before NIN ever took the stage. Sometimes your feet wouldn’t touch the ground. I’m a tall dude and I was struggling to get solid breaths at times. I made it like 3 songs and noped out of there. Would have been really scary if it was so compact you literally had no way to get out.", "I remember that tour and loved those big moving led panels. Was on the rail up front at Madison WI, got crushed to the point of being unable to breathe when NIN came on. Same thing hapened again when they came back with Autolux and QotSA in 2005. Out of 13 NIN shows (almost all up front on the floor), that was the worst place to go. I hate that venue and its all general admission tickets.", "\"Die for me.\" - Travis Scott", "yeah that’s probably it", "Doesn't hurt to get a couple reps in.", "This cracked me up dude. Lol. I want Axl bringing me donuts.", "What the people posting these don’t understand is it’s what Travis Scott wanted. He wants his concerts to go crazy and his fans to fuck eachother up. It’s part of the atmosphere.", "Doesn't toten hosen mean dead pants?", "Bob Weir from the Grateful Dead used to do this a lot too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szfhu_P9PnQ", "Second paragraph is the most mid 2000s thing I've read in a while.", "I think the real takeaway is that the zoomer generation has gone full simple jack on us.", "Man I didn’t think I ever saw APC open for NIN but maybe I did because the only concert I was at that concerned me about crushing was a NIN show that would have been around when APC would have opened", "No. It's just called a vamp. Maybe if you really tracked it down (ask an ethnomusicologist) you can find why that name was chosen at the time, but it's just a term much like how piano isn't short for anything.\n\nAnd don't trust wikipedia. Those sources are shit and I can very confidently say that this 20th century popular music term is not slang for a completely unrelated middle english word.", "I wouldn't say it's for crew to change scenery. Usually a vamp happens when there is dialogue in a song. As dialogue isn't to a beat or anything, it will take a different length of time each time. That's why they use a vamp. The conductor will then signal to the band to start playing again once the appropriate place in the dialogue is reached.", "This was an age where seeing ones ankles was pornograhic. So if something went wrong in a show, the performer would often remove their socks to distract the crowd. It was the medieval equivalent of whipping out your dick to buy time until the show could carry on.", "[The Grateful Dead also did similar things.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqR4rzPAGzQ)", "Remember weezer in albany of all things getting out of hand. They had boards over the hockey ice and people started pulling them up. Bunches of people ended up crowing surfing on the plywood and there was raw ice under the crowd in spots. They had to stop like 4 times to get it under control.", "\"Thanks to lame ass security, I'm outta here! \" - Axl Rose, Riverport Amphitheater, St Louis, MO 1991.\n\nI was at that show. It was the most avoidable riot I've ever seen. He was angry because someone in the crowd took his picture. Of the 19 people arrested they night, my buddy was one of them: felony possession. Axl, who started a riot, got a misdemeanor.", "I was at Leeds Fest and near the front when the barrier at the front collapsed during System of a Down and 20+ people ended up needing medical attention - luckily I was at the other side but the crowd was mental that day, particularly during System of a Down. Then it was Metallica headlining, we'd spent hours getting to the fro... shit, now you've got me doing it!", "Travis Scott encouraging his fans to mosh also had nothing to do with this. would you hold every rock, metal, punk musician responsible for their fans moshing anyway? \n\ncrowd crush isn’t caused by that, it’s caused by the sheer number of people standing together. the artist doesn’t have control of that.", "My stepdad played live music for a very long time, I don't know if what he told me is still relevant, but at one point, it was illegal to stop playing during a fight/ riot unless they were in danger themselves.", "Went to a Billy talent show a couple years ago where he said \"everyone is welcome at Billy talent, and everyone deserves to feel safe\" \nI love that band so much", "How very Christian of you.", "This is where I cheerfully reminisce about the Warped Tour I went to that had: AFI, the Ataris, The Dropkick Murphys, Glassjaw, Pennywise, Rancid, Simple Plan, The Starting Line, Sum 41, Face to Face (who signed a poster for me), Less than Jake, Brand New, Mad Caddies, Rufio, Tsunami Bomb, Yellowcard, Avenged Sevenfold, Coheed and Cambria, Motion City Soundtrack, Rise Against, Bowling for Soup and Me First and the Gimme Gimmes all in one day.\n\nThe Less Than Jake circle pit was ludicrous.", "Reminds me of that RBF song In the Pit. \"Gonna push some little girls tonight/Look out fag there's gonna be a fight/when I'm in the pit\"", "petition to remove travis as performer at his upcoming shows\n\n\nhttps://www.change.org/p/aeg-remove-travis-scott-as-a-goldenvoice-performer?utm_content=cl_sharecopy_31287236_en-US%3A7&recruiter=1232710099&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=tap_basic_share", "Yes.", "Ha! I remember the year Daphne and Celeste played Reading and actively encouraged people to bottle them. Good times.\n\n...50 Cent also got bottled but seemed far less in on the joke.", "Rip to Ass Dan", "yeah i mean this isn’t a new thing at all. just about every show i went to in my youth in the 90s/00s seemed like one coin toss away from tragedy, but the artists and security always put the effort in to prevent things from going wrong. travis scott is just an unconcerned asshole and this is where that gets us.", "In my mind it makes it so much worse. Adding that along with his history of encouraging fans to overwhelm security gates and rush the stages paint a really bad picture.", "Barton Hall 77 is the best step back.", "Now that I've had some life-sense knocked into me, I've realized that any Enclave of peoples, or fandoms, are functionally the same; just depends on the content they're in to as to how it manifests. \n\nYou basically hit the nail on the head for a Tech N9ne show; it's multiple fandoms that happen to overlap in the genre Vinn Diagram that makes em slightly more volatile. \n\nI'm pretty sure something similar would happen if you get say, a mass of Rick and Morty fans and Whovians in the same crowd, hyped em all up, then told em to go 'hem. There's always a subset of folks that take the shit way too seriously, and they're typically loud enough to summon like-minded folks into their corner, or to follow their ambition. I'm sure there's some legit sciences on it, but I'm just going off experience. \n\nI personally can't recall ever seeing some shit go down during Tech shows (see above mentioned abuse,) but I noticed something similar when Busta Rhymes took the stage (after being like an hour late?) The pit was brutal, fights were breaking out all along the security line, and a group of nekkid folks had to be figuratively airlifted on stage just to get them the fuck outta there before they got tore to pieces. Didn't help Busta and his hype man was spraying Patron on everyone in the first few rows. \n\nStrangely enough, the exact opposite happened during MC Hammer's set. Dude even had the balls to just come out and perform in the crowd. All we saw is him disappear behind stage, next thing we know 5mins later he's cutting through the crowd like parachute pants Moses, high-fiving folks, just dominating the crowd, no security detail from what we could see. We went abso-fucking-lutely *nuts* in the most calmly Chaotic fashion ever. It was like seeing someone walk up to a lion, boop its nose, then the lion gave him a back rub. Just awesome in the literal sense of the word.", "Yes", "It blows my mind. I been to so many metal shows when you go crazy and get knocked down but you bet your ass 4 pairs of hands come down and pick you straight back up.", "How can you be this fucking stupid? If you were just shown an example of him seeing an injured fan then stopping the show because of it, the simplest explanation for why he didn't do that again in this case isn't because he suddenly turned evil. Its because he didn't see and/or wasn't aware of what was happening. \n\nEvery video of bands stopping the show on this garbage sub have 1/10 the size of crowds, less lights and smoke and quieter music or are inbetween songs. He just didn't see what was happening its that simple.\n\nHe still deserves blame for overselling the concert and encouraging reckless behaviour but he didn't watch people die and keep going on with his show like a cartoon villian. Huge difference.", "GNR was also banned from St Louis for inciting a riot at a show because they stormed off stage due to an audience member recording them.", "Bands with relatively tiny crowds, less lights, less smoke, and see this happening inbetween performing songs. \n\nTravis deserves blame for overselling his concert, not for continuing to perform while things were happening he almost certainely wasn't aware of.", "Lmao. You are trolling, right?", "Exactly.", "Dude this is a tiny crowd compared to Travis Scotts with way less intense lights and smokes. Do you really not see any difference between these crowds and the astrofest one?", "Pros.", "I saw tool and a perfect circle in phoenix a few years back, and it was fucking amazing. Maynard was front and center and had lots of good banter between songs. Sorry that day didnt work out for you", "Fo' sho', [RIP in peace.](https://youtu.be/G3JN77rIYk8)", "He actively antagonized security, and said \"who told me to stop the show? You all knew what you came here to do\" so he was informed of the issue and actively working to worsen it.", "Oh well that ain't great", "They certainly have experience.", "GNR caused a riot one night after James Hetfield of Metallica stepped into a pyro effect and got turned into bacon. Or to be more accurate Bill Bailey caused the riot because he is a little bitch. Thus ended GNR's career.", "I was in a horrible situation at a Fall Out Boy show where, as soon as they started playing, there was a huge mass of people falling over, getting trampled and in danger of being crushed. They didn't give a fuck, they kept playing like nothing was happening, even though it was a smallish venue and it must have been pretty noticeable from the stage. Oddly enough, they were playing \"Sugar, we're going down\" while it was happening.", "Haven't been a GNR fan for a long time. But I gotta give it to Axl for doing the right thing here. He was partly responsible for a pretty bad riot after a canceled GNR performance in Canada many many years ago IIRC, so he's sort of redeeming his karma IMHO.\n\nThis happened in my country of Chile. Glad that my fellow countrymen & women chilled out and didn't make this worse. Weird that the video was blocked here on Reddit by a copyright claim, but I was able to watch it on the YouTube Windows app just fine.", "Thank you!", "Shit was chaos up front at the NIN show I went to with Autolux and Queens of the Stone Age opening...absolute insanity from start to finish. Was a goddamn great show from NIN though.", "It was for NIN's The Fragile, and APC's first album, April of 2000.", "Me neither. I was talking about the NIN/A Perfect Circle show I was talking about.", "I...sort of do. But even then, I got over it pretty quickly, and even though I'm only 42, I've got 20 years of wishing more bands played in venues with seats. Ha!", "The same year as I was on about above (possibly the year after Daphne and Celeste, certainly no more than two after), Good Charlotte were playing and starting getting booed and pelted with bottles during Lifestyles of the Rich and the Famous... One hits the drummer and they threaten to leave the stage, which got a jeering reaction as you can imagine, they went to the back of the stage to discuss and the lead singer comes up with a bright idea.\n\nHe must have figured if I get everyone to throw their bottles now, they won't be able to throw whilst we're playing. So he goes back on the mic and goes 'okay, what we're gonna do is, one the count of three you're all going to throw all the bottles you have'. He only got to one before the sky darkened so full of bottles it was, a real Battle of Hastings vibe literally thousands upon thousands of mainly full bottles flying at them at once with probably one in every hundred being a yellow bottle n all... God knows how people had even pee'd them full so fast. They seriously underestimated how much they weren't being liked by the crowd.\n\nAnyway, the moral of the story is fuck Good Charlotte. Also, cheers for the award, never got one before!", "They are not interested in truth and nuance. Just outrage and winning internet arguments.", "faints", "You know you fucked up when you can use Axl Rose as an example of an upstanding citizen.", "No need to check for facts. Yes redditor, thank for your education.", "I know this is not really related to what you wrote but \"My Neighbor Axl\" sounds like a TV show I would warch religiously", "Is it just me or does Axl sound exactly like Val Kilmer from Tombstone when he talks?", "If you listen to their official live album, Axl was very aware of the crush of fans. On the recording, he literally tells the entire crowd to step back. Even Axl fucking Rose knew this back in the late '80s, and he's a nutjob.", "I went to sasquatch a few years back and they had a mosh pit for the dropkick Murphys. The security at the front was pulling people out of, and off of, the crowd non-stop for their whole set.", "Out of all those.. I miss tsunami bomb.", "What does this comment mean? I asked for clarification so I could know more about the situation.", "Culture goes a long way though. I went to an EDM festival Freaky Deaky in Houston the weekend before Astroworld. Deadmou5 and Excision had huge crowds but people let me through to the central rail so I could rest my back. Some girl who did not even work there gave everyone entering a hug, welcomed them, and told them to be safe. I got a ride home from some random person I met six hours prior. PLUR has been around since the 90s and is alive and well. Still, you are right that with enough people there will statistically be some shitty ones so you can never be too careful. \n\nLow key want to go to a jugallo festival now just to experience the culture.", "Yup, I also thought about Pearl Jam at Roskilde. The police first tried to blame it all on the band when it clearly was a case of poor security. Probably the same thing here. Roskilde rebuilt their stage so things like this can’t happen even if the artists encourage mosh pits and whatever.", "I had a similar experience when seeing Cannibal Corpse live a few years back. I tripped and fell while in the pit, and this absolute unit of a dude picked me right back up with one arm and dropped me at the edge saying \" whoa, you gotta be more careful!\". I just nodded in thanks and the dude went back into the pit at full speed.", "Aww man, to be young again!", "Difference is, most artists used to see their fans as people rather than dollar signs.", "Simple solution to this is strategically placed barriers to contain crowd movement. Saw a documentary about it once.", "It’s not if you have a modicum of knowledge when it comes to crowd crush.", "They have also caused several riots, so they get no free pass in this space.", "Me too. They were the #1 draw for me at the fest. Killing the screens so Noone could see was pretty shitty.\n\nThey sounded good though, and I hope he was just having a really rough day or something. But after that I'll have a hard time ponying up cash to do it again.", "That tour was amazing. I was 2 rows behind the pit and yes. People were going insane.", "He was doing this thirty years ago ❤️", "Reddit is really going hard on the passive aggressiveness of how shit Travis Scott is at crowd control and I am so here for it.", "Too soon", "I think I heard the Houston Police Chief say they had 500-something cops and 700-something security people. That’s seems like a lot to me, is it not?", "Duff is selling himself short there. Even before the lineup started shifting, he was well ahead of Steven Adler and Izzy in recognizability. But yeah, the point stands. The amount of attention on Axl and Slash was ludicrous.", "r/fucktravisscott", ">Was a goddamn great show from NIN though.\n\nAren't they all, though? ;) Honestly, if I could go back in time and see any band on any tour, right near the top would be NIN on The Downward Spiral tour.", "Downward Spiral tour for me too honestly. I saw The Fragility Tour and it was great but TDS was my peak NIN fandom\n\nI would also want to see Tool during the Aenima tour, and Deftones during the White Pony era", "It means you should be reading a few news articles on it, not getting unverified information from random people on Reddit.", "r/fucktravisscott", "These guys kick serious ass. I scratched a 25 year itch and finally saw them live 2 years ago. They still put on an incredible show. Everyone stood the entire time. Incredible energy and yet all was under control.", "Just a bit of advise from a \"veteran,\" definitely try to bring one or two folks you trust with your unconscious body. \n\nI know that sounds foreboding and dark, but I'd give the same advise for any music festival. Very likely won't ever have to worry about it; if my dumb, severely-under-the-influence ass made it out just fine over a total of 9-10 days, you should too, and there's usually far more good Samaritans wandering about than shitheads, just safety in numbers and all that.", "I've seen Slash in his various projects maybe a dozen times in the last 20 years, including 3 times since he rejoined Guns. He gets better and more impressive every single time. All the interviews of his bandmates in the last decade always mention how seriously he takes his music and is constantly practicing and learning and that he outworks guys 20 years younger than him.\n\nI think being in a band with a guy like Fortus, who is a legit world-class virtuoso, has really helped to push Slash to a new level for him since the reunion.", "He was (is?) close with several movie stars, including Val.", "I saw em at a festival so they weren't my primary draw (coheed and cambria opened on that stage and thats why I went), so I was pleasantly surprised because I had heard similar stories to yours before.", "Meh, they haven't been a minute late since the reunion. Willing to bet it was a contractual thing with the other guys.", "Yea I guess years passing by does that to a man. Puts things into perspective and the diva behavior just seems so silly when you get older. I’m glad they got back together because they had and have chemistry like no other!", "Yea I guess so lol", "I mean you're right on some level but at least I'm willing to admit I don't know what I'm talking about and not posting bullshit to the internet.", "Yeah I saw them in 2018, and they were great. Axl sounded awesome, Slash killed it and played the entire three to four hours (staying on stage and playing by himself at times while the rest of the band changed/took quick breaks), etc. It was a great show.", "Axl lost his voice. But GNR will never get old.", "Nah man, Brand New is the class of that group.", "> multiple designated mosh pits at varying distance to the stage\n\nThis sounds like an great set up. I've never been to a huge show but would love to try moshing one day, having pits further from the stage and presumably less crowded would be perfect.", "> Travis Scott encouraging his fans to mosh also had nothing to do with this.\n\nCorrect.\n\nHowever, Travis Scott encouraging his fans to jump the fences to get into the festival, explicitly telling his fans to ignore security, and then continuing the show while there were ambulances driving through the crowd is what caused this.\n\n> it’s caused by the sheer number of people standing together. the artist doesn’t have control of that.\n\nIn this case he does, because he's not just an artist, but the organiser of the festival. He doubled capacity compared to previous years and then also encouraged fans without tickets to jump fences.", "Travis had ppl die at his shows. Travis saw the emergency vehicle. Travis is an asshole.", "[Bob Guccione Jr. at Spin…](https://youtu.be/Z2QCORi-u0U)", "That sounds like some hard core copium to me.\n\nI think you need to admit that the dude just straight-up sucks.", "I tried hitting up a couple of his beats off this comment, what is this style called again? Is this trap or soundcloud or are the two the same thing?", "I remember Mike Shinoda of Linkin Park saying those same words at a Euro concert right before their hardest song. You can mosh, but also look out for each other too.", ">Travis Scott didn’t\n\n[If only Travis had something like this in the past to learn from.](https://ew.com/music/2018/02/07/travis-scott-pleads-guilty-disorderly-conduct-after-allegedly-inciting-riot-concert/)\n\n>Very few artists do.\n\nExcept, you know, the dozens of videos of artists of all stripes knowing what to do flooding Reddit.", "Agreed. I saw them at Heinz Field in Pittsburgh in 2016. Honestly one of the best shows I've ever been to.", "I'm a heavy guy and I got picked up by a random petite lady in a pit at a punk show - it's a good feeling when strangers help you out\n\nEdit - Punk shows are the bloody best", "Glad you made it out. That sounds horrible.", "They've been doing this for years. They had it on the live album from 99", "I mean, Slash has been jacked since Velvet Revolver was a thing...", "> this isn't a limp bizkit show\n\nIronically Limp Bizkit wouldn't approve of that behavior either...", "Have to disagree with you there. I wouldn’t say it’s 100% on Travis, but wasn’t he actively encouraging people to jump barriers and push to the front of the crowd? Didn’t a couple of stagehands come up on stage trying to tell him something and he basically refused whatever they said (hard to know exactly what was said but seemed to be something about calming the crowd down, given he said no and immediately afterwards said that he wanted to feel the ground shake). Plus, hasn’t this kind of thing happened at Travis Scott concerts before? Certainly not to this degree but he seems to know that his crowds get rowdy, and even seems to encourage it to some degree. You would think there would be enough examples of this happened to other artists that there would be some sort of standard procedures when it comes to venues, so the venue definitely is culpable as well. But to say that it isn’t on Travis Scott “whatsoever” is quite a stretch… especially after the video of Kylie Jenner and Jeff Bagwell getting escorted out by security earlier on in the night (the video I saw seemed to be in the early evening, not quite night time, so clearly Travis and / or the venue folks had some idea that things were only getting worse). I suppose it’s possible that Travis had no idea that his girlfriend, the girl carrying his second kid, was escorted out of the venue and for what reason that happened, but I certainly don’t buy it. The optics are kinda fucked (get my girlfriend and unborn child out here but everyone else is staying and I’m going to rile the crowd up even more).", "It's amazing to me that solving the problem is that simple. One step. And all he had to do was ask.", "Hell yeah Tsunami Bomb!", "Like many artists, dude was popular because he made music a lot of people really like.\n\nHe is also fucking crazy. See: so many musicians, actors, film makers, etc.", "He's really seemed to have mellowed out. I don't think he would've been able to work if Slash again if he didn't.", "Weird. \n\nIf I click the link it goes to the timestamp. If you expand it so reddit shows the YouTube video embedded it opens to the timestamp if you start the embedded video. If you click the \"watch on youtube.com\" button on the embedded video it goes to the right timestamp. But if you click the title of the embedded video to watch it on YouTube it just goes to the start of the video. (on old.reddit)\n\nOn new.reddit clicking the title also sends you to the timestamp.", "meanwhile in 2021\n\ntravis scot: \"yeEAEAHHEAEAAe\"\n\nsecurity guards: lifting lifeless body out of crowd", "Probably had enough action to last a lifetime after Altamont. When they heard the Hells Angels stabbed a guy during the Stones' set, they booked it out on a helicopter.", "Absolutely. I was up against the rail on the front row at one of Def Leppard's Hysteria shows in the 80s and ended up with a bruised spleen and liver from being squished. It sucked SO bad, and it was terrifying. I thought I was going to die.", "Out of curiosity, did you see the video of a couple of stagehands coming up on stage and saying something to Travis Scott, then getting rebuked by him? Can’t hear in the video what was said but given he 1) expressed disapproval to whatever he was told and 2) was told later on in the set (the video itself was dark, not early on in the evening), it’s not exactly a stretch to assume he was told something about calming the crowd down, and then simply refused.\n\nIf this is the case, this doesn’t automatically mean he is some evil dude. It’s odd that you describe him as being at one of two ends of the spectrum: either unaware of what was happening or evil personified. You realize the right answer is somewhere in between right? We don’t like our lives at the ends of the spectrum, we live our lives in the gray area. People aren’t that simple. Just because he has stopped shows before for this kind of thing, doesn’t mean he does all the time. Especially given how he was egging on the crowd, and has in previous shows as well. Same thing for every other musician performing for a similar size crowd. Now, does that make him evil? No, that’s just stupid. Just means it was a bad move, that’s all. I do agree that if he had an idea that several people had already died, and many more had gotten injured, he would’ve taken more drastic action, but at this point it isn’t clear what the timeline looked like (although there may be more information out there by now, I haven’t done a whole lot of research about it).", "I saw Slash with Myles Kennedy's band open for Aerosmith a few years ago. They were of course not in their prime, but still put on a hell of a show. It was weird seeing Steven Tyler do Steven Tyler things and then think \"lol what this guy has grandkids\"", "Yeah, pretty sure most venues have an occupancy limit to prevent dangerous crowd densities. There's a reason why shows sell a limited number of tickets. The idiots who busted through security after the sow sold out are pertly to blame for this incident.", "Such a subdued rendition of that great song. Backup vocals were chill, Axl was a little quiet. Like a bit down tempo.", "Someone died at a limp bizkit show, that was the reference he was making", "Thanks. I've been to hundreds of shows, from raucous punk shows in shitty little clubs to big stadium gigs, and that was the only time I felt in genuine danger. Things literally started going black. I'd never experienced that before. Scary as hell.\n\nIt's one of the last times I got floor tickets. Started doing seats or lawns any time I could after that (and these days rarely do anything larger than a theater, unless it's low key stuff).\n\nMine was a pretty minor incident compared to others. Crowds can be a crazy thing, as we're all seeing pretty clearly these last couple of days. The crowd wave someone posted from an Oasis show is INSANE. Wild stuff.", "That sounds exactly like you made the whole thing up.", "> Marilyn Manson and then Iron Maiden\n\nI was there that year! Two friends and I snuck in. We managed to get roughly two or three people from the front of the crowd and it was weirdly spacious, like I recall telling other friends that I got to watch Maiden from right near the front in full personal space.", "It was 2005, a fine vintage indeed.", "Probably a reference to Woodstock '99.", "Ah. \nTIL.", "I was like...wait...is he telling them to move forward again!?", "I just saw Less Than Jake a couple weeks ago with New found Glory. \n\nYou’ll be happy to know The less than Jake circle pit was still just as ludicrous as it was back in ‘05 or ‘06 when I saw them at warped tour", "I dont really have an opinion on Travis Scott because I havent really looked into any of the facts. I will say that if you can be compared unfavorable to Axl Rose, you probably fucked up.", "Ive noticed towards the very front, theres less etiquette when people are all trying to get closer, at least in the moshpit areas people for the most part are respectful", "He does it at the beginning of Scarlet Begonias at Cornell 5/8/77 (I’ve heard it 100 times I felt compelled to say that)", "Holy crap I didn't know who Travis Scott was and googled, the response after... what a cunt", "He definitely had those tendencies, but he never hesitated to stop a show if he saw a safety issue of any kind.\n\nCouple years ago here in OKC his piano was fucking up while trying to play November rain. Like phantom notes coming out and shit, so he had them take it off stage and moved on, and when it was fixed they went into November rain. Was magical tbh, but shows he's gotten shit under control. He's not a 20 something hopped on Mr brownstone either, so that helps. \n\nBut ya Axl will not hesitate to protect fans/security or anything like that. Punched a dude out at an airport for being an ass to someone in his crew.", "It really says something when Axl Rose is less of a douche than you are...", "Somewhere Travis is STILL doing an auto tuned Robot", "They unfortunately have experience with concert dangers. Two people died after being crushed at one of their concerts in the late 80s. Unlike Travis Scott, they actually tried to calm the crowd, but were unsuccessful.", "You make a lot of excuses for 8 dead.", "Upvoting not because I know it's true, but because I like it.", "I bet Kylie Jenner is already looking through her rap rolodex for who to date next. She doesn't want to be associated with a guy who showed poor judgment and negligence in preventing this tragedy. She wants that cash flow to keep streaming in.", "GNR is one of my favorites but let's not prop Axl up as the pinnacle deescalation and crowd control.\n\nSt. Louis would disagree.", "Heeeeet it", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eVbFZ1uVZM", "> Donington 1988\n\nThe footage from that show was like watching Monsters of Rock in Moscow in 1991 or '92. Obligatory 'born in the wrong decade' comment.", "Poor old James.", "This was a decent read, nice write up 👍🏻", "Lol what a fucking pro.", "Do as I say, not as I do.", "Portmanteaus are great", "Because Pearl Jam immediately stopped the show when they were informed about the people injured, and instructed to crowd to step back. All 9 people died at the same time, not over the course of the concert.\n\nIt also was heavily impacted by the fact that the ground at that festival was slippery mud, which caused people to fall down more easily. This wasn't the case at Travis Scott's concert.\n\nAlso Pearl Jam didn't have an audience that mostly consisted of 12-20 year olds and actively encourage moshing and for the crowd to rage out.", "You do realize she is worth way more than him.", " “My love for you is like a truck, Berzerker”", "Yes and no (jumping in as a person who went to school for vocal performance, works in government/news video, and has done hundreds of hours of live broadcast). \n\n\"Vamping\" is usually more of a musical term (like OP mentioned) that refers to repeating the same thing over and over. Sometimes it's something like a repeating 16 bar set marked in the music and completely written out for all parts (the orchestra plays until the conductor is signaled that the set/costume/whatever change is done), sometimes (depending on the ensemble and talent) it's a repeated 4-16 bar chord progression where someone solos overtop, sometimes it's somewhere in between. \n\n\"Vamp\" generally just means \"do that same thing until we're ready.\" In that scene from The Newsroom, \"vamp\" as it was used was essentially saying \"last segment ended too soon, improvise on one of the most recent topics bc we need to fill air until commercial or new prompter copy.\" Being able to fill dead air is kind of an important quality to have as a newscaster though, and is usually a part of interviews. It's not so much a qualifier for \"top of the skill level\" as it is a necessity for even having the job.\n\nIn the show itself, \"Vamp\" was just a stage direction to Will, not a news/broadcast specific term that's used often, at least not in my experience.", "So would Montreal.", "Saw them in ‘99 and they were mind blowing good. However, he was wearing a white mask and cape and just underwear so you may have a point.", "This might be the nicest think I’ve ever seen Axl do on video because usually it’s just him being a giant dick to everyone.", "Its so weird too, you would assume it would be even harder to calm a rock or metal crowd than a pop crowd. There are tons of videos of Metal and Rock artists calming their crowds and getting help to those who need it. (to the point they have multiple [compilations](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXaGp2SIbeY))", "Floor tickets can be hit or miss for craziness these days. I got floor tickets for Metallica a couple years ago and there wasn't even a pit. It was mostly just a bunch of us middle aged dudes headbanging and shit and nobody even pushed each other around. I was kind of disappointed but glad at the same time lol. Not sure how well I'd have done in a mosh pit that close to 40...", "How bad must you be when you make Axel fucking Rose look like the sensible one? Hopefully Travis Scott's career never recovers from that incident. If he doesn't get 'cancelled' when other artists have for much much less, something is seriously wrong.", "So I keep reading articles that Travis Scott was antagonizing security and encouraging people to jump the fence if they didn’t have tickets, but of all the articles I’ve read none of them quote what he said or quote anyone else saying that he was said those things.\n\nDo you have an article, video, or anything that confirms this?\n\nI’m not saying he didn’t say those things, I just can’t find any specifics.", "Uh I am a Julliard-trained historian my friend. How you like the taste of humble pie.", "This guy listens to guns n roses.", "I think that metal and hard rocks bands especially of that era have a lot more experience with these things then modern rap artists.\n\nOn the other hand I don't think it should be the artists responsibility and someone else needs to have that duty of care.", "There are plenty of videos of rappers stopping concerts as well. There are also videos of previous Travis Scott events where people get hurt and he doesn't do shit. Its not the genre of music its a crowd thing. the moment a crowed gets big enough and dense enough its dangerous. Any performer and venue operator knows this.", "Timestamp? I’m not watching this whole thing", "What did Travis Scott do wrong? Should he have seen something was going on? Just curious because he claims he didn’t and seems kind broken up about it.", "Reddit is on point with the “fuck you, travis scott” content", "If you clicked on it, you’d see it takes you right there.", "I did. And it did not.", "I was at a show on that tour (APC and NIN) and was right up at the very front. Was getting pushed pretty hard into the metal barrier but I was never scared. Security was fantastic and they pulled tons of people to safety. Even handed out water bottles since many of us had been there for hours before APC even started their set.\n\nThe crowd also looked out for each other and if someone was having trouble we’d body surf them to the front to safety. If someone fell we’d make way and get them back on their feet.\n\nChaotic but respectful. I thought was the unwritten rule of how shows went.\n\nI was wearing my glasses and I even asked the security guy near me if he would take them so they didn’t get crushed. He actually put them in a safe place right under the stage where Trent was performing and I got them back after the show.\n\nI’ve gone to many many shows in venues of all size and type. Every single time there was adequate and competent security to keep the show running.", "Apparently the hate mob is warranted. 🤷🏼‍♂️", "Fucken rock on mother fuckers hell yea gnr baby gnr", "It's time to play everybody's favorite game... take a step back", "Pits in your 40s? Oh hell no. Been there. No thanks!\n\nMy daughter and some of my friends' kids were getting into punk stuff some years back. Not the emo teen stuff, but some genuine tear-the-roof-off anarcho shit. One of the bands we both liked was playing a club nearby and my friend's daughter really wanted to see them. They were 16-17, and it was an all ages show, so after some talk I agreed to take them. (The other parents had no interest; I'm an outlier in my friend group with some of my musical taste.)\n\nI didn't have to have my arm twisted. I loved the band, too! This would be two of their first concert, too, and I'm always glad to give someone a cool music experience.\n\nSo I haul a car of teens to the club and we pack inside. I herd them over to a corner so they don't get caught in the pit.\n\nBut the place was a mob scene. The band was just starting to blow up pretty decent and it was twice as packed as the last time I saw them. (For anyone interested, it was Against Me.) I don't remember what song they started, but the place exploded and damn near the whole place became a pit.\n\nThe kids got sucked into it.\n\nI'm all panicking. The one girl in particular was very tiny, like 4'11\". \"I can't bring my friend's daughter home hurt!\" I'm in there trying to guard them from the crowd, and since I'm more focused on them than myself I'm getting thrown around pretty good.\n\nExcept it wasn't working. They kept getting pulled in even further. We finally got separated, and totally out of breath and knowing I'd be sore the next day, I took a breather on the wall and hoped they'd spot me. I could see them the whole time, so good enough.\n\nAfter the show they told me they didn't get pulled into the crowd, they waded in on purpose and LOVED it. Just loved every moment of it, and the crowd looked out for them the whole time.\n\nAnd yeah, I was sore as shit the next day. LOL!!", "These videos are just as bad for them, the venues are also acting responsibly in these examples. The examples are also showing that every venue operator should know about pushes and crushes and how to manage them.", "pros with decades of experience.", "Yuh yuh yuh", "He's not. He's doing what his lawyers are telling him to do.", "If you wait 15 seconds it will. The timestamp gives context to the band's pause mid song.", "Also Dead Silence is a banger from start to finish.", "I think Spin is decently credible. I look at them like a Rolling Stone wannabe with less literary chops and pedigree.", "GNR crushes.", "WHERE'S IZZY!?", "I’m not familiar with him, what gives you this impression?", "It also helps when all the people in the crowd are like 50yo.", "With all due respect, I was not implying that she was looking for a sugar daddy. She wants to be marketable, and not be associated with someone who is already getting reamed all over the internet for his inaction.", "Been to 6 shows since 91, and I think he did it at every one.", "Can we do that?", "Wow, memory triggered LOL.", "Are you talking about the ‘Riverport Riot’ in St. Louis? Crowd destroyed the amphitheater after they stormed off stage. \n\nhttps://youtu.be/fF3HAx7K6wk", "Theres videos of him staring at people as they are being carried off lifeless 10 feet from him while he sings. Theres also a video of someone telling him to hold on a minute before continuing his show and he allegedly says “fuck that” and starts the song anyways.\n\nThis is also like the 3rd time he has encouraged this violence within a year.", "Don't worry, we're gonna play for a fuckin' while tonight.", "This dude is like the Donald Trump of rap.", "Name a hip hop show you’ve been to where they had to worry about crowd crush. Beastie boys maybe. Hip hop shows despite the genres popularity are generally a snooze fest. I think for modern artist, these types of shows and crowds are new to them. Where bands have been dealing with crowds like this for decades.", "Probably because he encourages this bullshit endlessly and it lead to the death of 8 people, including multiple minors dead or seriously injured\n\nIt shouldn't even be Reddit being passive aggressive, it should be a team of prosecutors being fully aggressive", "Just compare fan bases and you'll understand", "Wasn't so easy in '88 at castle Donnington", "I like to give GnR a lot of shit for this and that, but this is a pro move through and through. Legit just grew a lot more respect for this band through this one clip.", "Time for my Billy Talent story; they played a secondary stage at Heavy T.O. years ago and, since people were there to see Rob Zombie and Slayer, got some shit. A lot of shit. They rocked it anyway and were funny and kind of self-deprecating about it, not to mention very gracious about being on the bill. Always been a good band, but I liked them more after that show.", "It's so weird to me that crowd crush happens at jam band concerts as well. I've been to a few major jam band concerts myself and there is always so much room for you and your gang to just freely dance along and get lost in the music. Granted, I've never tried to get front and center, and don't pay much attention what is happening way up there, but it's always pretty damn comfortable when I've gone to see the likes of Phish.", "It’s how you present it to people as well. Like he’s super chill about it and it almost has a way of feeling like it’s part of the show and creates that immersion. As opposed to “ok stop the music, you fuckers step back now” probably won’t go over as well", "Everyone is fucking piling all over Travis and it's hilarious", "I had never heard of him and then he was also in the Sunday crossword. It was weird.", "Let’s see the video", "Props to the band for thinking about the people in front.\n\nBTW, this song is featured in Terminator 2. I love it!", "Yeah I just went down a rabbit hole of all the shit went down and he sucks and so do a bunch of people there.", "Except he had previously done this, as every fucking musician at this level knows to do.\n\nHe didn't, because he's a piece of shit. Stop making excuses.", "Let’s also not forget he ruined the spongebob halftime show", "It’s good satire…I don’t thing “fag” is in the song, not that it is inherently a problem since the singer is clearly playing a “meat head character” who your not supposed to like and might use that language…also late 90s so yeah..\n\nAnyway lyrics here:\n\nWhen I'm in the pit \n\nI'm going to fuck up shit \n\nWhen I'm in the pit \n\nDon't you know I'm going to fuck up shit \n\nReel big fish straight down to you whoa \n\nGot my wife beater on \n\nDoc martins on my feet yeah \n\nRunning around in a little circle \n\nI'm wondering who to be \n\nAnd you know it's really cool \n\n'Cause I played football in high school \n\nGonna push some little girls tonight \n\nLook out now\n\nWhen I'm in the pit \n\nI'm going to fuck up shit \n\nWhen I'm in the pit \n\nDon't you know, I'm going to fuck up shit \n\nReel big fish straight down to you whoa", "The Dead's current iteration have never needed to do so. Its def more chill these days.", "[OK, I read some articles.](https://consequence.net/2021/11/travis-scott-reckless-behavior-concerts/)\n\nConclusion: Travis Scott is an asshole.", "I think there's a close relation to the performers that can recognize this and know how to handle it because a lot of them had to bond with smaller crowds at the beginning of their careers and saw them grow at a much steadier pace and could manage that pressure as a performer of knowing when it was out of control.\n\nI'm totally not trying to start the argument that Travis Scott doesn't share fault in this, for sure, but the type of music he performs doesn't have that same connection to the audience that some of the performers we've seen linked on reddit the last few days in regards to how he started. Largely, his music boomed in the age that didn't require a live audience to have a following.\n\nThe audience and the performer alike really don't know how things should be done. It's just really sad and an unfortunate litany of systems in place that failed everyone hurt by what happened at Astroworld. If -any- good comes from it, it's that it's been so widely publicized that other artists that are in the same field as Travis Scott will take note and confront these things when they're noticed or command the crowd when things start to get too rowdy. Cutting the music is certainly the best ripcord you have.", "Pulled a girl up in the crush in the Vancouver stop of that tour. Nearly got punched out by the girls' boyfriend before he realized she was out cold and passed her off to get her out", "I really like that like he used, \"one step back for man, one step forward for mankind.\" I know it's probably something he just thought of on the spot but it's pretty great", "Don't Cry", "And let’s take. Another. Step. Back", "The flannel here is sure something", "God I loved against me! shows back in the mid aughts. Right when searching for a former clarity came out their shows were some of the most fun shows I have ever been too till this day. I remember seeing them around 08’ playing on a stage in a street in Seattle. It was an event. I miss being 21 and raucous.", "[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroworld\\_Festival\\_crowd\\_crush](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroworld_Festival_crowd_crush) for those who are wondering like I did", "Gimme three steps, gimme three steps mister", "Reading 2008 here, was front center on the barriers for Rage Against the Machine. My core got a serious work out that day, my shorts kept slipping down from what felt like 100,000 pushing up against me, I couldn't move my arms behind the barrier to lift them up, and couldn't even ask the person behind as their arms were stuck in the air for 2 hours. Also it's bloomin' sweaty and hot when it's that crowded, with stage security passing water through what felt like once every eternity. \n\nWorth it for RATM that point in my life, but never again... every gig since has been at a leisurely distance to bar/food stalls and toilets since.", "I mentioned 2 which one you want?\n\nEdit: [here’s one](https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/qo1eqk/travis_scott_sings_as_he_watches_security_carry/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)", "All my best friends are metal heads…", "They're on a sub r/fucktravisscott at least, but seriously you don't want to.\n\nIt's horrific, it's not a war video it's a concert with dead kids being lifted away while a girl makes her way up to part of the stage crying that people are dying and is told to get fucked. I really wish I didn't watch them.", "Saw them play at Gillette on that tour. Slash's Godfather solo right into Sweet Child of Mine was incredible.", "Hell yes! Their shows are absolutely fantastic. Always lots of fun. Saw them before, during, and after the big change, and it didn't change them in the slightest. Laura is a BEAST, and I've always found they draw a cool crowd. Raucous as hell but not towards one another. Just super great energy all around.", "I saw Laura play solo after I moved to LA and it was a wonderful show. I haven’t seen against me! Play since probably 08 or 09 though. I used to always catch them in Seattle when they came through. Though admittedly I stopped going to heavier shows for the most part around that time.", "That was smooth as fuck", "Dun dun dun dun dun dun dun …", "My favorite banter from him on record \"you're gonna have to start behaving like a respectable audience or we'll turn this thing around\" and jerry says \"don't listen to him\" lmao", "I think we get it Reddit, Travis Scott is an idiot.", "It's important to recognize people for doing things correctly.", "We've got very, very different definitions of tear the roof off punk shit if Against Me! Fits in that definition lol.", "The Baader-Meinhof phenomenon", "I don’t think most people actually understand what the difference is. But that’s not mutually exclusive.", "Someone send this to Travis Scott", "[Early days](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuxnsM-xrdU) AM certainly fits. They were pretty savage in the early 2000s and could certainly [tear the roof off](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWzKiot8SOc).", "That’s how you do it Travis", "It's up to the producers to make sure the security knows what to do, to make sure the artists know how to direct a crowd if they need to, and to have protocols for pulling the plug in case things go sideways. In this case, TS's company IS the producer, and it looks like so many of the safety measures were just simply ignored or overlooked. It's just pure negligence.", "You know, looking into the things I've heard about him, nothing solid has come up to indicate hes done anything wrong. Personally just seems kinda arrogant to me.", "Also The Who had a similar incident.", "Take notes Travis Scott.", "I saw them live in their prime, double bill with Metallica. Metallica was the far better live band. I think part of the problem is that Axl's album singing style puts a lot of demands on his vocal chords, and then (even back in like 1991) he just doesn't sound that great live compared to their records. But also, his engagement with the audience felt forced, like he wasn't super engaging. Metallica, on the other hand, were just total masters of the live show.", "And acdc", "You should definitely put more behind forming an opinion than a bunch of reddit comments, especially whenever they're in full pitchfork mode.\n\nMight turn out the same with more information but I still wouldn't advise putting a lot of stock into what a hyper-emotional reddit rage mob considers truth, no matter how many 30 second video clips they can link to. \n\nThey get shit wrong a lot.", "If there's one good thing about this tragedy is that it will definitely increase awareness of this issue. I never would have even considered that people in the front could be crushed like this but now I'll never forget it.", "You should post this on a zombie subreddit", "Must not have affected them that much when Axel walked off stage, starting a riot in 1992. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bjnb3oaCGvM&t=41s", "This is the first time I feel true respect for that man.", "They need to talk to Travis Scott.", "I am nevertheless skeptical that this was very widespread. If you could provide a source or two demonstrating this level of prudishness I would be less skeptical; especially given the vague time scale being discussed.", "Age and experience will do that.", "Axel Rose was banned from AN ENTIRE FUCKING CITY because he instigated a riot among the crowd while in Saint Louis.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nhttps://faroutmagazine.co.uk/guns-n-roses-riot-st-louis-axl-rose-arrested/", "30 years ago.", "Correct. He did it in 1991", "And people can’t learn and change?", "An eleven year old troll account with little activity is impressive.", "Where yall going to shows that are tiny and have security at the front?", "I wonder if the size of the venue matters? 50K in attendance might change how crowds operate", "Yup. Metalhead throughout my teens and twenties (still kinda) and whenever someone looked panicky or like they were going to faint people would part and they'd be out in no time. Saw deftones around '04 and a girl fell like 5 times because she was too drunk. The crows legit booted her ass outa the pit.", "Some can. Some can't. \n\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axl\\_Rose#Legal\\_issues", "I’m trying to figure out what the signal was. All I can think of is killing the spot on the singer. But that wouldn’t necessarily be visible to all.", "That’s good on the band that unironically made the song “One in a million”.", "…heeet it…", "Woodstock '99 was literally and figuratively a shitshow, but DMX's performance was incredible.", "This just reminded me of a time I went to a PiL concert. I was smashed against the front and actually had to have security pull me over because I couldn't breathe. The guy started to pull me over because he said I looked like I was going to pass out.", "no shit. Please dont compare these legends to someone who got famous for impragnating a kardashian ..", "Your editing format both pleases and hurts my brain", "Literally had same experience at a PATD concert, had to get pulled out as I was getting crushed and pushed by a whole bunch of girls clamouring for attention. Could feel myself about to pass out.\n\nComplete opposite at Guns n Roses concert I was looked after and made sure I wasn’t getting crushed", "Fuck Travis Scott that piece of shit", "If only they allows gif responses..", "I mean that's cool and all but there is zero evidence that anyone actually did take one step back.", "I didn’t get a chance to see GnR or Megadeth, that would have been an awesome concert.", "/r/Gatekeeping", "What's a pit ninja?", "Joe Elliot or Sav didn't help you out?", "Nothing passive about it.", "If y’all post a concert video it’s free karma I swear", "Oh shit, is that where one of the aliases from the Devils Rejects came from? lol", "Saved the front row folks from getting too “bug-eyed”, and then proceeded to melt their faces anyway with an incendiary Scarlet>Fire", "This is exactly how I broke a rib at The Offspring at the Aragon in Chicago. Crowd surged forward and I got pinned to the barricade. Sudden pop and a rush of pain in my lower sternum. That floating rib healed a little out of place. You can physically feel the difference front one side to the other.", "Funny how experience teaches you things.", "I just searched YouTube for a clip I remember of Halsey reacting to someone getting hurt in the audience, but instead my search terms found me something that might be even cooler.\n\n[When Bands Stop Concerts to Save Fans](https://youtu.be/BXaGp2SIbeY) (5 minutes)", "Axel Rose started another riot in St. Louis like 3 years later because he was mad a fan was filming. GNR was banned from St. Louis, and replied by putting \"Fuck you, St. Louis\" in the liner notes of Use Your Illusion.", "Apparently security didn't feel safe and they were being shit on by Travis and a bunch of them quit and walked off the job", "Nope. A cop pulled me over the rail.", "had the same feeling as a 90s kid. Saw them 3 years ago at Dodger Stadium, they tore down the place like it was 1992.", "Yeah I was gonna say. This prob comes from experience", "I _loved_ Tsunami Bomb, saw them live a bunch of times. I always remember one show was in Norwich and the lead singer was (in a fun way) making fun of the name as she pronounced it Nor-witch and the crowd corrected her. She was halfway through complaining about the pointlessness of the silent 'W' when a fellow band member pointed out the \"T' in their name and she just lost it laughing saying \"OK, OK you got me\".", "Wat", "Aye the crowd dynamics were super weird that year as it was packed and heavy most of the day then kind of emptied a bit during Marilyn Manson (my memory is he was having a paddy about technical issues and kept stopping and starting) plus the Maiden fans were there own demographic while everyone else backed out at the end.\n\nThe Alkaline Trio/NoFX section was super heavy in the pit.", "They’re just joking.", "You fuck a goat one time…", "Timestamps sometimes fail on certain devices/browsers.", "The number of people holding up their phones in that crowd. Noone is going to go back and watch that. Just enjoy the damn show.", "We all know why", "It’s such a weird feeling of being lifted up by a handful of people and you’re back on your feet after one blink.", "I read the news, I don't put much stock into reddit comments. Sounds like you do though.", "I can hear Bobby’s “take a step back” speech from the Cornell show so clearly in my head. “Your friends up front won’t look real bug-eyed.” \n\nI don’t know which drummer is adding a little flair after each “take another step back”, but that’s what puts it over the top for me.", "Tears for sponge bob", "Wow. If the biggest asshole in rock n roll can do the right thing, why couldn’t the biggest asshole in rap?", "Really?", "*Cliché", "you can see the entire crowd move back lol", "You’re assuming it wasn’t an intentional ritualistic sacrifice", "Too much hairspray in the 80s - probably got in their eyes so they couldn't see you. \n\nRun Riootttt!", "Astroworld was meant as a ritualistic sacrifice , go look at the album cover closely .", "I just thought even Axl Rose is aware of situations like this.", "This is 2016. Nobody in the audience is younger than 40.", "Zappa's band were masters at it.\n\nYou listen to any (of the many) live albums and you can hear them seamlessly drop in and out of vamp mode as Frank introduces a song or tells a story or chats with the audience.", "Oh look, another artist stopping a show. We fucking get it. You guys just karma whore at this point.", "Mickey Rourke fucking rules", "Oh yeah they 100% knew what they were in for and embraced it, I remember the issue of Kerrang that came out after they had loads of backstage pics and Daphne and Celeste were in half of them with other bands - apparently they just wanted the chance to be backstage at Reading and hang out with bands they liked and considered getting bottled and dancing around for a bit a small price to pay. They were on with Blink 182, RATM, Slipknot, Placebo etc.\n\n...plus honestly 'Ooh stick you' and 'U.G.L.Y.' are solid sing-along bangers for a drunken day in the sun.", "I wouldn't dare misbehave at a Maiden concert. Imagine how much it would suck to be [this guy.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU_2VrmPwH4)", "Also the average fan age at their 2016 show is probably 35+, 45+? Much more responsible group of people then the average fan at a Travis Scott show. But still, kudos to GNR for this.", "So to be clear, you don't see a single difference?", "If you mean this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhCN5R2uU4M, it is edited. They interspersed clips of the crowd with the ambulance in with an earlier song with the stagehands on. You can just compare it with the actual video of the performance on apple music. If there is another video showing him talking to stagehands maybe.\n\n>If this is the case, this doesn’t automatically mean he is some evil dude\n\nI disagree. The implication of him seeing people dying in the crowd and continuin to perform is that he cared about his performance more than peoples lives like an episode of Metalocalypse and I would consider that evil and make him directly responsible for the deaths in a real, go to jail way.\n\nIf you don't think he should go to jail you probably don't actually believe that he was aware of what was happening in the crowd and I completely agree. That stage was covered in smoke and heavy lights, it was a huge thrashing crowd like usual, Travis hops around the stage like a bunny too. \n\nI already made it clear that he is liable for overselling the crowd and a little bit for causing the crowds rager atmosphere and that is really bad, but that is a different magnitude of responsibility than if he saw what was happening in the crowd and continued.", "he's a black rapper, what else do you expect from one of the whitest pasty faced racist communities on the internet? If this happened at a rock concert we all know how reddit would be reacting to it.", "Say what you want about Axl Rose, but that was fucking smooth", "Thanks for the clarification! Much appreciated. 🙏", "You and every other dude there had a similar internal experience, no doubt.", "Can't imagine a Pistols and Posies show with more than 50 fans.", "That takes both being musically talented and also having compassion for your fans.", "Bob Weir saying that on the live Cornell album was the first thing I thought of when I watched the video. Fantastic album as well!", "They can't though. Axl has also been the cause of AT LEAST one riot.", "They have absolutely nothing to do with that kind of shit. The people that run their shows and are in their ear are definitely hyper aware", "Slipknot, 01/2020, Birmingham. I lost my left shoe just one min into the show. Found it a few songs later. The show was crazy/amazing as always. I was 51 at the time, but it's Slipknot, how could you not be in the pitch", "similar experience with Prodigy in Scotland.", "Metal, especially nowadays, is quite niche. So the unwritten code of conduct is much better understood.\n\nYou can even tell in pop-adjacent metal/metalcore acts, that the crowd is less adept at dealing with mosh pits and people falling over. The more \"hardcore\" the band the, the more experienced the crowd (and smaller lol), the more pleasant and safe the pit experience.", "My personal recommendation: go to smaller venues. Not huge stadiums and definitely not festivals with tens of thousand of people. \n\nClub venues are much better, you can actually dip out for a beer or a piss when you want to, the pit is more pleasant (everybody knows how to behave), and there's more \"camaraderie\" so to speak.\n\nNot sure what music you are into, but bands along the size of parkway drive, architects etc. usually fill out clubs and don't play stadiums yet.", "A lot of the Travis fans were young and inexperienced, they had no idea what to do in a situation like this. Wether or not Travis could fully tell how dangerous the situation bellow him was he was the only person who could control the crowd at any part. his efforts were minimal all though he did stop the show multiple times to point out security to help. Really this was a fucking terrible collection of shitty planning amd response and some people should pay dearly for it. Including Travis. Allthough unluckily for reddit it is unlikely he will be publicly hanged and rap music will be banned for ever to be replaced by hair metal.", "Good at his job but by all accounts is a total diva asshole off the stage.", "They did halt the concert but the speakers in the back where broken.\n\nThis was the show that caused them to set barriers in the middle of crowds (and develop the so-called mojo-barriers especially for it).", "&#x200B;\n\n>Because Pearl Jam immediately stopped the show when they were informed about the people injured, and instructed to crowd to step back. \n\nAnd I heard the speakers at the back of the crowd where broken, so many people didn't hear this.", ">Toten Hosen had a girl trampled in 1997 and police forced them to continue to prevent panic in the 60000+ fans.\n\nimagine that..", "I can agree with that.", "Piano [roughly translates to quiet](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamics_(music\\)#Dynamic_markings \"wikipedia: dynamics in music\") and is still used as such. The name of the instrument is literally short for Pianoforte, referring to the ease with which different volumes can be produced. This isn't obscure knowledge, and the changes to the name were pretty straighforward.", "Plenty of other rock stars manage to not be as shitty as him. Cept for Jared Leto.", "Probably didn't help it was January in Ohio and like 20 degrees outside. So all of us were holding big winter coats and shit lol", ">They can't though. Axl has also been the cause of AT LEAST one riot.\n\nAnd apparently despite himself, he's learned quite well from that and often does things like this.\n\nAre you saying someone can't be a good example if they made a mistake before?", "Are you saying you're putting words in my mouth I never said or implied?", "A fucking mouthbreather who thinks it's acceptable to kick and punch people in the mosh pit. Might also flail around with fists flying indiscriminately in every direction.", "I've played a ton of tiny shows in my shitty band and I can't even keep track of the 30 people in the audience. Usually you can't even see the audience for the lights, but even when you can, at something like an outdoor festival, you have chords and lyrics and rhythm and prescence to keep track of. I can't imagine many frontmen are out here playing their songs while genuinely conducting crowd-recon the whole time. Especially with ten thousand watchers, even after their thousandth performance. \n\nI'm sure many bands use in-ear monitors with a guy with a microphone who gives them the heads up, but even very popular bands still just use stage monitors plenty of times.\n\nI don't think it makes Brendon Urie or Patrick Stump or whoever an asshole for not stopping the show from you getting crushed. If they could see you at all, you'd just be one ant in a sea of ants, and they're doing a million other things - the odds of them seeing you go down seem impossible.", "I’ve never realized how close I’ve been to a crush. My first The Used concert at Stubb’s in Austin didn’t have seats. I stood through a few ok bands keeping my spot closish to the stage. As soon as they came on stage, it felt like a wave. We were pushed nearly to the ground and I was definitely going down until the other side pushed back and straightened us out. It was more side to side than back to front, but I can see how easy it is to get crushed at these events. I haven’t even thought much about it until this all happened.", "Some tramplings happen outside the venue... saw Led Zeppelin in Chicago 1975 I think. They were hot, the sound got locked in after the first song (an almost unlistenable version of Black Dog) and they took the first scheduled break. After 30 minutes and a rise in restlessness, Plant comes out and tells us that Jimmy's sick and can't continue. WE boogied and were some of the first outside the Stadium where we came up on mounted police who 'hemmed' us in.\nAs others exited we were being pushed up against these huge animals with big feet that were shuffling and stepping. Somehow we found a gap and escaped, but I remember a horse hoof landing on the egde of my shoe, separating my foot from the shoe. Never went back for it.", ">Are you saying you're putting words in my mouth I never said or implied?\n\n\"They can't (use Axel Rose as an example of an upstanding citizen)\". No one called him an \"upstanding citizen\" in the first place, someone simply made a joke about Axel doing something right by using that phrase.\n\nWhat people are doing is saying he's setting a good example here, which is true. There's no problem here mate.", "Like a pro.", "man that’s scary. i’m glad you’re okay. thankfully nothing like that ever happened to me but i was always paranoid when i got up close like that. i definitely got knocked around and knocked down more times than i can count back then. those crowds got crazy in those days, especially at festivals.", "Still don't see a reason for a great number of posts of concerts. It's basically karma whoring due to other people's misfortune. Posting here on reddit about some band that reacted to something happening in the crowd does nothing. It's the equivalent to \"one like = one prayer\".", "I've been to probably a couple hundred events at this point and I agree. I always felt safe because of how serious and fast acting the staff was. They would jump off of a barrier and into the crowd whenever someone needed help.\n\nThey just stand there for hours, scanning the crowd, waiting to sprint into action. I assumed this was standard practice, but maybe it's a northeast thing.\n\nNow I'm just going to be checking out the security situation before I get on the floor...", "It needs to be way more common to have barriers every 10-20 rows or so, to stop the entire crowd pushing on the people at the very front. I've seen it done a few times but can't believe it isn't at every large gig.", "Hardcore scenes are great like that, it's like they wanna pick you up so bad they're gonna throw you through the fuckin roof lol", "How many more of these fucking posts are we gonna see this week", "Idk I just assumed he was riffing on dude-bros who don't know how pits work.\n\nEdit: if you listen the lyric is \"steel toe doc Martin's on my feet.\" And \"I'm wondering who to beat.\"", "Is this all we're doing now on reddit? Showing crowds from concerts?", "All I said is the guy is guilty of similar behavior in the past, no more, no less. Seeing more than that is all you, my guy.", "I ain’t trashing him for Rise Against.\n\nThe lol looks a lot more douchey than I intended. \nApologies to OP he seems nice enough \n\nI’m just really laughing that people mosh to anything. And in this case it looks like OP stumbled into a particularly violent pit.\n\nWouldn’t really expect it at that show so it made me laugh.\n\nR/gatekeeping I will accept this. I checked off some of the boxes so I accept my fate", "You need a live microphone to do that.", ">All I said is the guy is guilty of similar behavior in the past, no more, no less. Seeing more than that is all you, my guy.\n\nYes, surprisingly he has maintained crowd control frequently since watching a fan get crushed to death. Of course he was guilty of similar behaviour in the past, that's part of why he advocates frequently for it now.\n\nShould he not be seen as a good example for learning from his mistakes and trying to save lives?\n\nI don't think I'm the one with the weird perspective here.", "Yep, pretty much what u/Hawk_Thor said. They speed through the pit windmilling their arms around. They only care about themselves and think their antics are funny. In metal circles, our pit ninjas were usually douchebag hardcore punk bros. They probably didn't even like the bands we came to see; they just came as an excuse to take aggression out on strangers. \n\n\nI was always a fan of the idea of cartoonishly ripping their windmill arms off, beating them about the head with their own arms, and then shoving them up their asses sideways. But apparently that involves a lot of court fees and jail time, so I just tripped them with my foot instead.", "You are the oddball here because you're thinking way more into this then I put in. I made a literal statement of fact, and made no further judgment on past, future, intent, whatever. Literally just, \"he's done similar stuff.\" At no point did I say anything about whether Axl is better, could be better, etc. Nor did imply further judgments on character beyond that statement. I'm a bit irritated that I'm writing a dissertation on a statement that means little more than, \"weird choice of example, given his old record.\" My statement stops at 1991, man. FFS you're looking for an argument where there isn't one.", "I just don't get why you raised it. Sorry it came off as argumentative, like from a surface reading it didn't seem to make a point. No worries man, roll and move on.\n\nHis old record is exactly what gives him his perspective on this. I guess I thought you were doing something akin to reminding a former drunk driver who speaks out about the dangers of it that he was a drunk driver. It just seems...weird. no worries tho, have a good one.", "Holy crap! Damn, that sounds scary. Did they get you out of there?", "I was at a small local hardcore show a few years back. One skinny little 5’8” or so pit ninja was very intentionally going out of his way to target smaller women on the edges of the pit and straight up punching/kicking/body checking them, while very obviously avoiding all of the bigger guys in the pit. I grabbed a buddy of mine (both of us are big fuckin’ dudes, over 6’1” and 250+ pounds), we walked up behind him and each grabbed one of his arms hard, walked his punk ass out of the venue, and told him that if he comes back inside things are gonna get ugly for him. I’m all about keeping the pit clear of people who are intentionally trying to inflict pain on smaller/weaker people. Fuck all the crowd killing shitbags out there. We go to metal and hardcore shows to have fun, let loose, and get rough, not to target women and assault them for kicks.", "The one I was referring to was Chain Reaction in Anaheim. The venue was a lot deeper than it was wide so they had the front section as a buffer. Depended on the show though. That particular one was a metal show so they were pretty on top of it. I’ve been to lighter punk shows where I was able to crowd surf right onto the stage though. That wasn’t a particularly rowdy crowd though. Lively but not scary or aggressive at all", "yoo yooo awsome", "Thanks man. Peace to you as well, and up the irons.", "No, I wouldn't dare. Peewee is far funnier than I could ever be", "Taken down. :(", "https://www.reddit.com/r/trashy/comments/qpihaj/bullying_his_own_fans/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share\n\nWell I just saw this come up. This is only a small part of what I've seen and read about this douche nozzle. Am I still under the influence of reddit comments?", "mirror??", "Funny how the mideval period can seem so tame until you remember these same people would burn cats for fun.", "Okie doke troll👍", "I remember reading this when it was posted, and it sticks with me every time I'm in a crowd", "I went to a Billy Talent show at a tiny bar before they broke big where the singer spun his microphone stand around and smoked his drummer in the head and caused the show to be shut down.", "Cheers.", "First time I ever heard of this happening was at a Who concert in Cincinnati in the early 80s..." ]	629	videos	Guns N' Roses effortlessly fixes a crowd crush without breaking stride.
https://youtu.be/A9msLwh-wp4	/r/videos/comments/qor6wk/i_would_like_to_add_another_proper_crowd_control/	[ "Grateful dead not wanting their fans to be dead", "IW@TS", "I'd be grateful...", "Love the 5/8/77 version of this", "I owned so many posters and t-shirts of this band... When I finally heard what they sounded like, I felt my little 13-year-old heartbreak. I used to listen to my brother's old punk records and was a huge fan of Metallica and other metal bands from the early '90s. Just saw their posters and through they were another metal band. I like their music now, I just remember that was my first dive into \"Don't judge a book by its cover\".", "Everyone's favorite fun game!", "I had a very similar experience when I was younger, lol!", "Just the name and the posters with the skulls. I'm still into metal but do like some calmer music now. Grateful Dead is one of the bands on my list to see live.", "Most of them have died a few times and can tell you the story.", "All your friends are getting kinda bug eyed", "Yeah, much better organized than the 12/6/69 version.", "7/12/90. RFK. Nice downpour to take the heat out of the air. Great, great show. Lots of fun.", "Take a step back!", "Same thing for me. My dad was a musician, we had a recording studio in the basement and I grew up around music and bands coming to play. Party atmosphere every weekend. My dad was something of a Deadhead so the Grateful Dead stuff was littered around the house along with everything else. He was a huge fan of Garcia. \n\nI've never enjoyed the music although what I know about the fandom and the band as musicians is all good. I know they are very talented and some very famous musicians look up to them. John Mayer went on a big Garcia kick at one point picking up different guitar techniques etc. But I just don't find the music enjoyable. They are kind of \"musician's musicians\" the way some people called Norm MacDonald a comic's comic.", "Travis Scott stops show to help fan\n\nhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ml9EGK5OaNo", "Mayer didn't just go on a Garcia kick, he plays and tours with the Dead now as Dead & Company. \n\nAlso I'm sure it's been recommended to you before especially considering your dad, but anyone that has listened to the Dead's studio stuff and didn't love it, it's definitely worth giving their live stuff a listening. [Archive.org has a massive live Dead archive.](https://archive.org/details/GratefulDead)\n\nI don't smoke weed anymore but listening to a great Dead show or even the album American Beauty (I know I'm a bit of a Grateful Dead basic bitch) can get that happy high feeling going again.", "And YET ANOTHER step back!", "Doesn’t help that this particular song is “Phil’s Song” he is not a singer, but wrote and sings this particular one. Actually pretty good once you get past his voice.\nAlso, I don’t think anyone really likes the Dead the first time they listen to them. Fantastic band, but definitely an “acquired taste”", "https://t.co/Hxe1Dm6tUW\n\nTravis Scott doing the robot while people are dying 30 ft away", "I'd say most people don't know. I listen to the grateful dead frequently and have heard them do this on their live recordings. It never clicked to me that they were potentially saving lives until the incident last week" ]	20	videos	I would like to add another "proper crowd control" video to the pile! The Grateful Dead showing how it's done.
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qor6ws/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qor6ws/deleted_by_user/	[ "Reposting my comment from another thread\n\nThe crowd crush/river happened to me during 21 Savage's set during Governor's Ball a month ago and Lil Yachty's set at Rolling Loud a week ago\n\nAt those points I was 5 people away from the front and I did feel the river of people crushing me left, right, and forward. It was like HELL\n\nGirls next to me were crying and screaming for help and for both times, security didn't do jack shit. It was lucky enough that 21 Savage's set was about 25 minutes but horrible when it ended, you had people pushing up going forward so they can get a better view of the next set for Post Malone, and I couldn't get out! I was stuck in the same spot for about 15 minutes with literally no space to move, I had to force myself out and helped a bunch of girls get out too because they were passing out.\n\n\nLil Yachty's set was a NIGHTMARE, \n30 seconds into his set, we got crushed harder, Yachty looked directly towards the front and said \"OPEN THAT MOSHPIT UP\" and we screaming \"NOOOOOO\", \n\nhttps://youtu.be/E_hH1h2hTQ0?t=75\n\nIn this clip you'll see fans screaming NOOOO and people moving their arms left and right to signal Yachty to stop \n\nhe encouraged people from the back to move up too! If your arm was up, it was staying up the entire set. It was graceful that no one fell during the river crowd but I can only imagine Astrofest was 10x worse, shit makes me cry man I got ptsd from that girls IG post saying was helpless in the river \n\nI also have video of both sets right when the crush occurred which I'll post on my profile soon, anyways for future reference guys, your life is not worth a 10 second Snapchat video of seeing your favorite hyped up artist in the front, stay towards the back and enjoy the breathing space you have\n\nI added a timestamp but please look at the middle of the crowd, fan's aren't turning up to Lil Yachty, THEY'RE FIGHTING FOR THEIR FUCKING LIVES!!! I can't stress this enough, if ONE PERSON FELL, we all would've been done for.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/E_hH1h2hTQ0?t=94\n\nAnother view of the crowd river on the right side of the video", "Sounds like shit, couldn’t watch the entire video. I would wish to be crushed after this shit show.", "was one of the girls fighting for my life, literally have ptsd from it", "I hope you're doing okay now 🙏" ]	4	videos	[deleted by user]
https://youtu.be/BB5ohHA-x1k	/r/videos/comments/qorfm5/travis_scott_interrupts_spongebobs_sweet_victory/	[ "The more I hear about this Travis Scott character the more I start to think he's not a very good person.", "Promotes a special McDonald's meal, it consists of a quarter pounder and fries. Travis Scott is a major idiot.", "Kanye West is probably keeping a low profile right now…", "Oh yeah, Travis is more of a dumb kid than a raving lunatic luckily.", "Lock him up." ]	5	videos	Travis Scott interrupts Spongebob’s ‘Sweet Victory’ at Super Bowl 53 halftime show after the passing of creator Stephen Hillenburg
https://youtu.be/HvBgRSSlVBA?t=383	/r/videos/comments/qorgbn/not_the_hugest_u2_fan_but_bono_literally_saved_a/	[ "Oscar Wilde, U2, and Graham Linehan…\n\nIreland, I owe you so much.", "fucking twat", "I remember the BBC'S documentary of Live Aid and the girl in question was interviewed, she never mentioned been crushed. Not once." ]	3	videos	Not the hugest U2 fan but Bono literally saved a woman's life who was being crushed at Live Aid 1985 by dancing with her.
https://youtu.be/d4Bkf329gjs?t=533	/r/videos/comments/qorynd/skrillex_stops_his_show_during_a_crowd_crush_and/	[ "CHOOOOO CHOOOOOOO \nKARMA TRAIN", "I like the silhouetted girl rolling in the foreground who’s dancing to a literal public service announcement.", "All aboard the karma train", "So, are we posting every video of a band stopping their show for some reason or another now?", "Maybe Travis will see them.", "I hate his music but I can respect taking care of his fans unlike that piece of shit we all know about." ]	6	videos	Skrillex stops his show during a crowd crush and makes sure everyone is ok before continuing (2011, timestamp 8:53)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9NQ6VEciFk	/r/videos/comments/qos0n8/why_1_million_mushrooms_are_getting_destroyed/	[ "\"We're having to destroy mushrooms because not enough immigrants are allowed in to pick them!\"\n\n\"Have you tried paying more to increase the size of your worker pool?\"\n\n\n\"No, it's lack of immigrants, damnit!\"", "Poor small business tyrants don't have their slaves anymore. How will their profits built on that slavery recover?", "Losing 50 to 100k? How about spending an extra 25k on paying people a better livable wage and then pocket the 75 you greedy fucks", "That would set a dangerous precedent that slave wages aren’t okay.", "And that's PER MONTH. He said they are losing 50-100k per month... If they pay a wage of $60k a year to a worker that's at least 6 people they can hire. Yes, 6 people cause wages aren't the only cost of hiring new people. They have to account for benefits in the remaining 20-70k plus make the extra personnel worthwhile to still make extra profit from their labor.\n\nThough to be clear... they are NOT losing money per month. They are losing out on POTENTIAL money. This is product they WANT to sell but can't harvest it in time for lack of pickers to do the dirty work so they have to destroy it. The sting still holds true though that if they are consistently tossing sell-able product at that high of a rate... why couldn't they hire a few people at decent wages to pick product for sale and still make more money than they were before? It may be less profit margin than they are used to... but they obviously have the production capacity to cover it without needed to invest in land/tools. All they need are bodies and they already have the sell-able product to cover wages. It just makes no sense... just feels like they are whining.", "Or even improve working conditions. This says it's a 12 hour a day job. No way are you selling anyone with other prospects on that unless pay or opportunities are fantastic. And the only opportunity is learn how to run your own mushroom farm.\n\nAnd as far as wages go, they're not paying hourly. They're paying by boxes filled. So the job has a built in, never ending crunch.", "It boggles the mind how stupid they are.", "tl;dw: Not enough workers.", "And also: notice there aren't headlines about national mushroom shortages. In fact, if there is a slight shortage, then the mushrooms might be selling at a premium due to the decreased supply. If they \"fixed\" the problem and introduced additional mushrooms to the supply to a fixed demand, the price would go down, so it's in their best interest to screw their workers, blame wastage on a lack of workers, and maybe even cry enough to get government handouts.", "Economic Darwinists learning what survival of the fittest means. Surely they didn't vote to feed the dragon that is now eating them, right? Surely the products of our meritocracy weren't that short-sighted.", "I noticed that while they're wearing COVID masks they're not wearing any kind of respirator. [At least with oyster mushrooms, one of the popular culinary species they specifically mention, exposure to the spores builds a sensitivity and allergy over time.](https://www.reddit.com/r/mycology/comments/1eqibm/is_an_indoor_oyster_mushroom_farm_dangerous/caam4ku/) With a year of exposure you now have a lifelong health impact which keeps you from working with that species unless you want to risk anaphylaxis.\n\nThat's how little they care. On top of all the abuse they build into the system for agricultural workers, they'll poison their employees to save money on PPE. Disgusting parasites who deserve their ruin.", "They'd rather scuttle the business than lose another dime on wage", "If you're blaming strict immigration laws for your reduced workforce all you're really saying is you're not willing to pay a reasonable wage for someone to work on their feet all day almost every day of the year.", "Didn’t they say the lowest paid worker was $14/hr and some were over $20/hr?\n\nThat’s not bad for literally picking mushrooms, 0 skill involved and not exactly strenuous or hard labor.", "He claims he's paying 14$ an hour for incredibly physically demanding labor, 12 hours a day job. No wonder you can't find anyone. Meanwhile apparently demand for mushroom is growing exponentially, he's got customers he has to disappoint every day, tons of growers are going out of business...\n\nAnd of course the only solution is to extend more visas to migrant workers, of course.", "It's always funny how American leftists post shitty \"studies\" from Cato institute, a Koch thinktank. \nEspecially when they try to apply it to Europe. They claim that asylum seekers are good for the economy, when in reality it's just wealth transfer from the working class to the big corporations and landlords. They claim they commit less crime despite committing vast majority of violent and sex crime, terrorism, orgnised crime, honor violence, muggings, property crime, etc. They claim we need asulym seekers to \"do the jobs the native people aren't willing to\" and then most of them are sitting unemployed while the handful are exploited by shitty wages that are half subsidised by the government. \n \nThe fucking gaslighting from liberals is absolutely astounding. \n \nLike how yesterday that Syrian immigrant who stabbed four people in Germany and all the Americans came to say how it's \"right wing terrorism\". Is Ilhan Omar right wing too? They all vote for the left. They all vote for wealth redistribution. Then they'll just go \"but muh GDP!\" like it actually means something. \n \nIf socialists knew anything about economy, they wouldn't be socialists.", "I don't know what to make of this but I find it hilarious that you made a new account just to post it.", "Of course. This is the same old marxist NPC tactic you always deploy. Always just attack the account age and never the actual argument. \n \nEither it's \"I looked at your account history\" or when there isn't any you just say \"LOLOL your account isn't old enough\" so everything that goes against your leftist dogma is somehow invalid no matter what.", "I mean the argument is so stupid that it's incoherent. There's no value to responding to it and you have no capacity to understand something new if you're that stupid. Instead, what I find funny is that you're a coward on the internet. I'm not even about to shove you into a locker in real life, you're hiding like a lil babyboy on the internet. \n\nShow me the deed to your factory and I'll take your argument as anything other than toilet paper without the length to be useful.", "Babyboy's mad. It's ok bubby. Those mean Marxists won't hurt you with your blanket over your face.\n\nAgain, show me the deed to your factory.", "Something doesn't add up. And the journalist doing this story aren't asking the right questions to make the math work for the reader.", "He did say revenue which is not profit. I think it's really hard to judge. Some of these farms are probably scraping by.", "TLDW; They won't increase wages, so they complain there's not enough immigrants to work for pennies.", "tl;dw: not enough immigrants willing to work for slave wages. \n\nFuck these businesses that can't operate without paying their workers so badly that only illegal immigrants would do it because they have no other option.", "These people sound like the slave masters after slavery became illegal...", "I want to believe that you're joking.", "> to work for pennies.\n\n($14 per hour)", "If your scraping by and under paying your labor, then probably time to increase prices or shut your doors.", "America the land built on slaves and immigrants", "Mycologists are out on strike?", "The way they spin the issue in this video is disgusting.\n\nPay more.", "$14 / hour is just shy of $27,000 a year if you work 40 hours a week. That is not a fucking livable wage.", "> That is not a fucking livable wage.\n\nIt's more than double the poverty line, actually. The livable wage varies greatly in America (e.g., $100k may let you get by in a modest apartment with a modest lifestyle in San Francisco, but it'll get you an upper middle class lifestyle in metro Philadelphia).", "The video says it’s because the businesses can’t hire enough workers to harvest the mushrooms. They claim that they are losing money, letting orders go unfilled, and can’t recruit or retain enough workers because of immigration restrictions. The video romanticized the history of immigration labor even as it recognizes that new immigrants are used to keep wages low. If demand exceeds their ability to supply they can increase prices. They might not want to do so to maintain market share, but that’s a strategic business decision and not a matter of immigration policy.", "\"We have to kill our mushrooms because we don't want to pay workers a proper wage, and the damn immigration laws are making it harder to run our sweatshop!\"", "\"Open the borders so we may have our wage slaves.\"", "Yeah let's just jump to really high salaries to prove my bad take.\n \n \nIt's 27k pre tax. Stop for a few seconds and wrap your head around that. There's a difference between living and surviving jackass.", "The poverty line is too low.", "My guy, they are losing 100k a month because they don't want to increase wages.", "Why do you keep changing the subject each time I reply? First, you said they get paid pennies. So, I told you that $14 per hour isn't \"pennies\". My sister gets less than that working at Publix, by the way. Then you said that it wasn't a livable wage. I told you that it is. Now, you say that these farms aren't paying enough. I hear you. Everyone should get paid at least as much as what unemployment pays. I support universal basic income.", "That's a separate discussion, but sure. I support UBI.", "My sister earns about that much at Publix. You're blocked for verbal abuse.", "> why do you keep changing the subject\n\nThey’re not. It’s 3 different people that have responded to you\n\n> $14 an hour isn’t “pennies”\n\nIt’s a common saying, don’t be so pedantic. \n\n> My sister gets paid less than that\n\nYour sister is underpaid too\n\n> Then you said it wasn’t a livable wage. I told you that it is\n\nIt’s not\n\n> Now you say that these farms aren’t paying enough\n\nLol that point is completely consistent with everything else that’s been said.", "They are turning away customers, so its lost money. The potential already turned into a guarantee then was denied.", "Gotta look at usernames when responding, Reddit isn't 1 person.\n\nIf the farm is losing 100k in product because they don't have enough people, maybe they should experiment and raise wages with that 100k they are losing and see if things change, I mean it can't hurt.", "> I mean it can't hurt.\n\nRespectfully, that does not reflect the thinking of a successful business owner.", "Clearly he isn't successful if he can't find workers and has to throw out 100k worth of product.. so", "My dad was a small business owner in the agriculture industry and I can tell you firsthand that raising everyone's wages might just not be in the cards regardless of how liberal the business owner is. I'm not arguing against raising the minimum wage or anything like that. I'm just saying that as a business strategy, raising the pay may be unfeasible.", "Respectively just because you ran a business doesnt mean shit.\n\nWhy do we have workers walking out? \n\nNot enough pay.\n\nWhy is it that the only wage group have trouble finding workers is the one where people walk out? \n\nI don't know but let's make videos on it and question why we can't find workers, must be laziness and not our selfishness for slavery.", "Your use of the word \"slavery\" is a slap in the face of actual slaves.", "Sorry your sister puts up with that. It's still exploitation.", "Oh bugger off you know what I mean.\n\nDont change the subject.", "You're blocked.", "I'm actually not arguing with you about that. Don't go imagining that we're disagreeing about something here.", "Yeah that's right, when you know you lost an arguement you go running away. Clap please.", "Lol, the audacity of equating wage increases with liberalism.", "Quote me equating wage increases with liberalism.", "That's fucking retarded, isn't the entire republican argument, such as in trickle-down-economics, that a better economy will lead to wage increases for everyone? And that's why the minimum wage shouldn't be increased?\n\nFree market mechanics and all that?..\n\n>I can tell you firsthand that raising everyone's wages might just not be in the cards regardless of how liberal the business owner is\n\nWell, how do you make your product better, if you can't get the best employees? Competition means that a better product costs more, typically that means you need better employees, which typically means you offer them a higher wage to compete. But I guess most business these days are just looking to slash prices rather than make a better product..", "You're blocked for being so blasted unpleasant. \"Fucking retarded\"? This isn't a schoolyard.", "I may have unpleasant words, but it's not me who won't even offer some of the most poor people in society a decent standard of living." ]	62	videos	Why 1 Million Mushrooms Are Getting Destroyed Every Week \| Big Business
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29bgJqpao6g	/r/videos/comments/qosc8p/how_the_hidden_nest_of_the_worlds_largest_hornet/	[ "Watch for waspis and be sure to drink lots of water", "The way they found the nest was amazingly cool.\n\nThe way they removed the nest made me want to nope all the way out of the galaxy, but was also very cool. At first I was like \"Why is he wearing a bomb suit?\" then they showed the stinger and I was like \"OK, story checks out\"", "Would love to hear the full explanation. When he showed the stinger, he wasn't actually stung, was he?", "Seeing all those hornets in the plastic bottle was satisfying.", "For those unfamiliar with these \"murder hornets,\" the species is indeed [serious business](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPdeqwKbTCI) and [in 2019, the first colony was found in Washington state](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbIfOtpY5p8)!\n\nEconomically, entire honey bee hives are a prey source of V. mandarinia, and the primary species used in North America for pollination, the European honey bee (Apis mellifera), do not have any natural defense mechanisms against these murder hornets and so are practically defenseless against them. [A handful of these murder hornets can easily decimate an entire European honey bee colony in a few hours.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_8B4bcrSs8)\n\nIn Asia, the Japanese honey bee (A. cerana japonica) evolved a unique defense mechanism against these murder hornets: [Before a giant hornet scout could leave to alert the rest of its hive, Japanese honey bees will lure and trap the scout to swarm around it, and because Japanese honey bees can withstand temperatures just a few °C higher than these giant hornets can, it's barely just enough to kill off the scout!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNroEwFxh6I)\n\nMedically, V. mandarinia is also significant:\n\nPer [Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_giant_hornet):\n\n>[M]ultiple stings can be lethal even to people who are not allergic if the dose is sufficient [...]\n\n[...]\n\n>Besides using their stingers to inject venom, Asian giant hornets are apparently able to spray venom into a person's eyes under certain circumstances, with one report in 2020 from Japan of long-term damage, though the exact extent of actual visual impairment still remains unassessed.\n\nPer the [University of Florida](https://entnemdept.ufl.edu/creatures/MISC/BEES/Vespa_mandarinia.html):\n\n>In Japan it is estimated that approximately 40 people die from the stings each year (Yanagawa et al. 2007). These deaths have been contributed to kidney failure, anaphylactic shock, heart attacks, and multiple organ failure often from multiple stings (Yanagawa et al. 2007). During a four-month period in 2013, Vespa mandarinia caused 42 deaths and 1,675 injuries in China. In the cases of injuries that lead to hospitalization, it often took about 30 days for recuperation (Liu et al. 2016). Further, these hornets can cause scars from stinging that can endure for some years (Matsuura and Yamane 1990).\n\n---\n\nEDIT: [Here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaHLAq0CcEs)'s the ecology of V. mandarinia from a Japanese beekeeper's perspective.", "Very neat. They kill them with heat.", "Someone commented on the video with a rough translation. I'll copy/paste it here: \n\n0:40 - We're looking for disturbed earth, which indicates the presence of the nest .\n\n1:09 - We tagged [a hornet] at the base of the mountain, but we lost track of it, so we're tagging another one. We're not advancing any further (in danger of stumbling upon the nest).\n\n1:24 - He said that one of them has gone to the opposite mountain face to see where exactly the hornet is heading. It's too dangerous (to just keep pushing forward).\n\n2:00 - We just wasted another half an hour, and it's raining now. We're now in a 5 meter by 5 meter proximity of the nest, and are going to eliminate the nest. It's time to gear up.\n\n2:25 - We've made a brand new hornet trap just for today. As for the nest, as there's a village nearby, we're going to exterminate them all. Let's go over to the entrance.\n\n2:48 - Do you see the entrance? The tag is even still there. You can see the hornets moving the soil.\n\n3:58 - We see the nest, it's a pretty big hole. Looks like three layers.\n\n4:14 - It's more or less exposed, looks like three layers. Looks pretty full (?), let's remove it and take a look.\n\n4:43 - It looks pretty full(?). 4 Layers. It weighs around 7 jin (3.5kg/7.7lbs).\n\n4:59 - We're just catching the remaining hornets.\n\n5:42 - Here's the queen.\n\n6:02 - Look, the stinger is stuck in my glove. Look how long it is.\n\n6:28 - We're removing our suits just 3 meters from where the nest was. This is because we exterminated the entire colony today. We exterminated the entire colony because they're very close to a village, 5-6 bee hives that way, and also a road. If they were on a mountain where people don't visit, I would recommend leaving some of them so as not to exterminate the entire colony.\n\n6:53 - It seems to weigh around 7 jin (3.5kg/7.7lbs), and there's about 200 hornets in this container. There's more in this one, probably about 300.", "Yeah fuck getting out of that suit that close to the nest.\n\nI'm getting out of that suit only after the nest and the two murder bottles have been burned to ash.", ">entire honey bee hives are a prey source of V. mandarinia, and the primary species used in North America for pollination, the European honey bee (Apis mellifera)\n\nI thought I read recently that it was other non honey bees that did the most pollinating?", "\"Used\" implies human deliberation and is measured economically. It may be that for wild plants, other insects play a larger pollinating role.", "What language/dialect are they speaking in the video? Do we know where this is?", "This job seems fun, i would do it", "I'm in Washington. One landed on a raspberry bush in my yard last summer. Holy crap it was huge... I've never seen a hornet like it before or since. I reported it to the state via their reporting tool, but never heard anything back. They found 1 or 2 nests in northern WA this summer.", "Sounds like Mandarin, the most common dialect of Chinese. The channel location is Vietnam but I don't know whether this was shot there.", "The bait is just straight up meat. That frightens me too much.", "Are you sure it wasn't [V. crabro](https://bugguide.net/node/view/7229/bgpage)? That's the species that's most common in your area. V. mandarinia has been infrequently sighted as well since 2019 but [it's unknown whether it has established a reproducing population](https://bugguide.net/node/view/1821640).\n\nMany insect species cannot be identified without a microscope or without dissecting genitalia. Fortunately, [that isn't the case between V. crabro and V. mandarinia](https://entomology.ces.ncsu.edu/murder-hornet-comparison/) (and it's important to account for conspecific variation; imagine classifying whether certain humans are different species by not accounting for variations in skin color, height, and nose shape).", "Thanks!", "Oh HELL to the motherfucking no.", "What frightens me is how that demon flew off while carrying a piece only slightly smaller than itself.", "Now let’s see that hot bee whisperer take on these fuckers with her bare hands and big hair.", "And a large bit of plastic bag.", "Thanks for clearing that up, because those subtitles didn’t help me at all.", "Yeah that's Mandarin, and the forest looks indistinguishable from some I spent a lot of time working inside in China. Not to say it couldn't be in a Vietnam but I'd bet it's China.", "What's the fluid in the glass jar? Alcohol or something? It seemed to knock them out.", "In my title, I should have said \"translations\" instead of \"subtitles.\" Sorry for the confusion!", "Yeah, double checked the comparison you linked. What caught my attention at the time, aside from its size in general, was its giant head and long evenly striped body. I was able to observe it for \\~30s before thinking that I should run in and grab my phone to snap a picture. By the time I got back out it was gone. Spent a good hour searching through photos online at the time before submitting the report just to be sure. Note that I've been at the same house/area for close to 20 years. This hornet was unlike anything I'd seen before. It was like the size of my pinky finger.", "Yeah, that does indeed sound like V. mandarinia! 😲\n\nHere in southern California, I'm most concerned about kissing bugs and their high infection rate of Chagas disease. Most Californians still don't know about these terrible bugs...yet.\n\nHopefully, V. mandarinia goes the way of [Saga pedo](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saga_pedo), the latter of which is an absolute massive unit of a predatory katydid that hails from Europe:\n\n>Saga pedo was reported as an accidental introduction from Europe into Tompkins Township, Jackson County, Michigan (USA) in 1970. In all, only six specimens were found from 1970 to 1972, during August and September. None have been found since by a reliable authority, so they are considered extirpated from North America.", "What's the solution in the jar they are being killed with? They seems to be completely hopeless the moment they touch it.", "It might be rubbing alcohol or ethyl acetate (such as found in nail polish). Entomologists commonly use them to quickly kill insects.", "It might be rubbing alcohol or ethyl acetate (such as found in nail polish). Entomologists commonly use them to quickly kill insects.", "If the translation can’t be viewed over the video in real time, they aren’t subtitles.", "Where are the bodies buried?", "Yes, I made a mistake in the title. I should have said \"translations\" instead.", "Touch my camera through the fence", "I'd love to believe in something as hard as this guy believes in his suit.", "TIL bee suits do a great job of hiding this guy’s enormous balls.", "So what would it take to colonize Europe and America with the Japanese bee", "The families deserve closure, G.", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB4Nby2Ai-g&feature=youtu.be", "I would not trust that suit. I know it's probably fine...but fuck there being some stupid hole they find.", "For some weird reason they added fake buzzing noises on a loop. Listen closely...it's the same exact sound over and over again.", "It was so cool when they were trying to find the hornet that had a piece of plastic tied to it. He called it a “kite”. Apparently there were two kites. One clear and one red. The clear one is the one they found and destroyed the hive in the video. \n\nEthyl Alcohol is what he used to kill the hornets in the jar.", "No way am I taking off that suit till I am at least in a different country from that nest. No thank you.", "I thought Mandarin has a lot of sharp Z sounds?", "Even Mandarin has its own \"subdialects,\" e.g. [northern and southern Mandarin](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jc2TVtP-3-Q).\n\nP.S. The video title should specify \"Mandarin\" because \"Chinese\" has many different dialects that sound totally different (but more or less share the same written language), e.g. Cantonese. I'm not an expert in the Chinese language, but it seems that \"dialect\" can be misleading to those who misunderstand what a dialect is; this is because while most English speakers can listen and understand most English dialects, this is not the case with Chinese where most words sound completely different between dialects (but again, are written the same).", "There are pros and cons between European and Japanese honey bees (not just \"bee\"; \"honey bee\" is a type of bee). This is why many Japanese beekeepers still import European honey bees.\n\nI wonder if it's possible to breed Japanese honey bees so they become as productive. But if Japanese beekeepers haven't done so already, maybe it's not possible (with current technology).", "Spot on.", "Are they really the largest? Or is it just compared to the asians people size", "I found out recently that a Spanish species of bird preys on these with high efficiency. They were found to have transformed their diets to be 70% of these fuckers after they appeared. We should just breed those.", "As a California, um.. What", "Source?\n\nIf you're referring to the European honey buzzard, (A) the study was done not with Asian giant hornets but rather with Asian hornets, two completely different species (so is like proposing the use of sea lions to control giant squid populations), and (B) the research team is Spanish but the bird is not (the bird is found throughout Europe, Africa, and West Asia).", "Aye, this man is right on all accounts, I was wrong on most.", "https://pestdefense.com/the-kissing-bug-and-chagas-disease-what-you-need-to-know/\n\nIt just got worse as I read on 🤢", "I'm so itchy right now lol The sound of them flying by the mic got me everytime lol" ]	55	videos	How the hidden nest of the world's largest hornet, the Japanese/Asian giant hornet (Vespa mandarinia), is located and removed [subtitles in top YouTube comment]
https://youtu.be/EbjjDmJhs_0	/r/videos/comments/qoseem/slipknot_stop_live_show_to_protect_crowd_after/	[ "Travis Scott is a POS.", "Stop posting these dumbass", "Why? \n\nSorry metal fans are sick of being told how dangerous they are when it’s not true and we actually have etiquette in our musical subculture.", "A reach and a miss", "Not even a little lmao", "Cuz people are only posting these videos due to the travis scott incident and trying to earn karma trough the trend... we get it that he is an asshole for not stopping the concert but seems people cant be creative either", "Ah. First one I’ve seen.\nI’m perfectly fine with as many being posted as possible. People clearly need to learn.", "Creativity? Reddit? Pick one.", "this is being posted because of the Travis Scott crush\n\nnot because metal fans feel oppressed, retard", "Is that what I said? \nI said this specific intent of this video is to make a point? \nNo, IM making a point, dipshit.", "> No, IM making a point, dipshit.\n\nSo, it's a reach then? \n\nJesus you are fucking retarded", "Perhaps a reach but not a miss\nMust suck being too dumb to remember what you said 45 minutes ago.", "> People clearly need to learn.\n\nLol", "> Perhaps a reach but not a miss Must suck being too dumb to remember what you said 45 minutes ago.\n\nSo in these comment threads you've been corrected multiple times by different people after coming in and this is all you have got? \n\nI am arguing with a high schooler at best here? \nIts the only ones I could imagine trying to ride the high horse when commenting like a retarded 7th grader about how oppressed you/they are as a metalhead\n\nE:\n\n>So damned sad by wetouchingbuttsornah\n \n>in BlackPeopleTwitter\n\n>[–]McKUltra22\n \n>[-8] 1 point 15 hours ago \n\n> Because some of y’all have no manners at concerts. That’s what happens when the culture associated with your music encourages being a brain dead moron. Just like Travis Scott, king of the fucking brain dead morons.\n\n>Totally preventable but people decided to be pieces of shit instead. It’s infuriating.\n\nstop being retarded and/or talking to me, this is too rich", "Lmfao corrected by who?? Multiple times? \nYou’re delusional. I will gladly stop talking to you and let your shitty comment continue to get downvoted.", ">\t[Ah. First one I’ve seen. I’m perfectly fine with as many being posted as possible. People clearly need to learn.](https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qoseem/slipknot_stop_live_show_to_protect_crowd_after/hjp789b/) \n\nlol\"Must suck being too dumb to remember what you said 45 minutes ago dipshit\"\n\ndownvotes are retarded so thanks for confirming your age", "You talk about decorum inside your subculture and then you talk to people like you have a soggy asshole. Your words are discrediting your point.", "Eh this guy was being a jerk so I don’t feel bad about it.", "The pinnacle of maturity surely is telling people on the internet they are young and retarded.", "Sorry, I know nothing about Travis Scott as a person. But honest question: wouldn't what happened be a venue, security, promoter issue?", "In part, yeah absolutely.\n\nBut there videos of Travis Scott just kind of doing nothing about the incident and continuing the show. Apparently many witnesses have given similar account. That he saw/knew what was happening but just kept playing. Historically, other performers have stopped the show for the safety of the crowd.", "That wasn’t being corrected…? No one replied to other one either so I’m just at a loss here.\n\nAnyway, have a nice life.", "It’s not always about karma. Some people are literally trying to provide examples of better crowd control since it’s apparent that there was a major lack thereof at the recent Astro world concert.", "You look at videos on Reddit and project your feelings onto them. That is something someone young and tarded would do", "You mean have an opinion? Okay. Sure.", "The new Travis Scott meal at McDonalds is pancakes.", "I'll always see \"lip-snot\".", "As well as a real moshpit. What they refer to as moshpits from the Travis shit is just way too many people in a venue jumping to music; also dangerous considering the circumstances. Slipknot shows are a great comparison because it shows how much of a tangible hand the artist has in play to control their fans. Who the fuck wouldn't want to listen to the person they paid hundreds to see?", "He has also been previously charged in 2017 for inciting a riot at a concert and telling the crowd to push through security….. then he just gave a fake ass apology…. \n\nand he married a Kardashian.", "Are you aware that you aren’t doing anything constructive and the only effect comments like yours have is to tear people down?\n\nTrying a new thing where instead of insulting someone who is acting the way you are, you just point it out and hope they think about it. Act the way you want others to.", "She’s a Jenner", "He really is a POS" ]	35	videos	Slipknot stop live show to protect crowd after barriers are overwhelmed
https://youtu.be/JLycVJLB1PE	/r/videos/comments/qosjv9/system_of_a_down_stopping_a_show_when_the_crowd/	[ "…okay.", "I see you're trying to jump aboard the train, but this video was pretty lame, and it wasn't even the bad but rather the security who stopped the show.", "And the band complied and helped out. I was at this show and it made a big difference seeing them take the time to help them out.", "So your saying it's not like the other 500 similar bandwagon shit posts we've all seen today?", "Do these posts make you feel sad? aww poor baby", "Wtf is that?" ]	6	videos	System of a down stopping a show when the crowd tries to show that people are unconscious. Riot Fest Chicago 2015
https://youtu.be/VfC-wAJqksU	/r/videos/comments/qosnmm/i_mined_100_pounds_of_silver_ore_and_turned_it/	[ "Thought this video was about Minecraft for a second..", "Great YouTube channel.", "Shout out to u/hkaustin!", "I love this youtube channel but I always have so many questions.", "Great to see Jason over at Mt Baker Mining get some love too! His products and info are invaluable to small scale miners!", "It makes me uncomfortable how casually they handle lead with their bare hands.", "Lead is really only dangerous if it gets into your bloodstream. Generally, if you handle lead in the amount shown here, simply washing your hands is enough to keep you safe. It takes a lot of contact with lead to really start to cause issues. Really common causes of lead poisoning include ingestion of lead-based paint chips by kids (since it tastes sweet). Also, breathing the vapors from melted lead without a respirator or any dust from grinding it.\n\nHistorically, lead poisoning was also caused by combining lead eating utensils and plates/bowls/cups with acidic foods/drinks. In Victorian times, the white pigment in makeup and paint was based on lead carbonate", "And now his backpack is filled with toxic lead dust. Yay!", "Or just think about the printers from back in the day. \nNot far from me is some kind of museum for work safety and stuff and their have a small movie about the initiation of a new printer that is showing the effects of being one.", "I always wondered how refining silver worked and this video had what I was looking for. I'm shocked at how this known and more than a thousand years ago.", "Will you clarify the last sentence?", "Last sentence is a demonstration of the effects of lead poisoning.", "I think all my questions are kind of jerk questions so I feel strange asking them and derailing a live steam or what he is doing. He always talks about the town and everything he is doing in the town but I really want to know how he afforded the property, how many of those buildings are original vs staged (seems like a lot was made for tourists) and really want to know what his goals are. I get he wants people to know about the area but still its a multi million dollar property and he is a young guy he needs to make that back. I am just so curious even if I don't have 100% reason to be. The area looks cool as heck and I love what he is doing but those questions always itch at the back of my mind. Is it a documentary or is this an ad for a hotel he is building. \n\nI really hope the answer is I won the lotto and this was a fun idea I had. haha", "Minecraft IRL. Cool stuff. Watched the whole thing.", "He purchased the property with the pitch to preserve the history and document it. Brent seems to be working up to having it a tourist destination for people who want to visit and learn about the old mining operation. His bid was selected because it wasn't about mining but more of preservation and his intention to document it on YouTube. He hopes to open a history museum of artifacts he finds exploring the mines. That being said, he owns all the mining rights to anything found in the Union mine.\n\nHe has a lot invested in the Cero Gordo mine. The original hotel burnt down shortly after moving there. It was a devastating loss and Brent aims to rebuild the hotel tavern as much as possible (with modern standards). He was very honest and raw when it happened because losing the building was a big deal of what he hopes to accomplish.\n\nBrent has taken a chance and risked quite a bit for what he hopes to accomplish. Pretty cool channel non the less. Not sure if your familiar with Leo rebuilding Tally Ho! but I consider them similar content wise.", "Oh to be clear I watch the Channel all the time and think he's awsome and love the project. I guess when the hotel burned down that seemed like that was not an original building so that was confusing and it seems like it was like a theme park in the past? Or somthing before he purchased it? I guess I'm co fused about thst part. The next thing I know his bid was chosen but it was still millions of dollars and it appears he's been just haning out and exploring for 18 months. Just confused how he's surviving and paying people who are working with him.", "Me too...for example: What are your questions?", "Found the IRS", "A 100-pound ring sounds impractical.", "Am i understanding properly? To refine the metals it's essentially just heating them until liquid, pouring into a cast and the weight of each metal seperates itself?", "-Slaps hand on rock.\n\nThis bad boy can fit so much lead.", "This looks like something Ron Swanson does on a weekend. 😊", "This is great content. Really well put together, informative and natural. This video has literally no useless filler it’s great", "Can we talk more about panning and prospecting? That sounds like a dope hobby.", "He had his own business running a bed and breakfast or something before this. I think he used the same investors from that business to invest in the town. It’s not his money per say, but I don’t think he was given a loan, he had wealthy investors if I understand correctly.", "how did he afford the property, how is he affording now that he has been living there alone for over a year. It looks like it used to be some kind of theme park how much of the buildings is original vs set up for tourists. \n\nThat kind of stuff. I think its an amazing idea/ youtube but there has to be some form of him breaking even or making money here.", "A lot of info on wikipedia.\n\nIn 2013 he founded a hostel in Brooklyn. In 2014 founded HK Austin, a hostel in Austin, Texas. For 2015, HK Austin was the highest rated hostel in the United States. So he got all the wealth from these I guess.\n\nHe bough the town and mines (300 acres) in 2018 for $1.4 mil (supposedly there were offers up to $2 mil for it)", "Not quite. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkes_process", "It's awesome seeing how much this channel has grown." ]	29	videos	I Mined 100 Pounds of Silver Ore And Turned It Into A Ring!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSS127hyzfo	/r/videos/comments/qosv0c/in_1979_during_a_who_concert_in_cincinnati_11/	[ "WKRP insisted on doing a show about it, and it was their absolute best episode, really, in terms of cultural impact.", "I learned about the Travis Scott incident from my wife, and immediately mentioned this episode of WKRP. Thanks!", "This was one of my favorite shows growing up.\nThis was done just right. :(", "https://www.instagram.com/reel/CV9_RMSDZde/?utm_medium=copy_link", "CHOOOOO CHOOOOOOO ALL ABOARD", "The Who tragedy prompted a lot of arenas to abandon general admission seating. From then on, patrons bought and occupied a numbered seat. Many places also stopped allowing mosh pits. (At least for a while.)", "This is a much healthier submission than the barrage of videos of performers stopping their shows. Thank you.", "One of the best sitcoms of its day, if not all time. That cast was amazing.\n\nAlso, less about the topical factor and more the clip...had to laugh a little when the guy calls in and wins tickets and they tell him to look up the station in the phone book. I spend decades with those being THE source to find anything in your area. Now my phone can give me directions, lead me step by step, and the item I came to buy is waiting for me pre-purchased when I get there.", "Nice hashtags...", "\"By god as my witness, I thought turkeys could fly\" begs to differ.", "That was the funniest, for sure, but not the most socially impactful I think, in terms of helping people come to terms with the event in particular.", "I haven't seen a turkey drop since they aired that episode!", "The thing is turkeys can fly.", "[Not very well when dropped from a plane](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3MbCNodleI)", "You and me both, for some reason that line: While the mayor insisted he was not intoxicated he could not explain his nudity stuck with me. I dropped it into a short film of ours (at the 26 second mark. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8Bz7TFzecw ) \nThis show had a lasting impact on me... one of those shows ended in its prime and bringing it back was never a good idea.", "It seems to have gone out of fashion.", "I think both are important. This post serves to remind us that no matter what type of crowd is at the show, there's a reason that standard practices for crowd control and safety became a thing (actually, this show is practically the reason for all those practices). The other posts show that artists who respect their fans and crowd have been taking safety seriously for a long time, no matter their genre.", "I was there. Was bad.", "The episode where a evangelical pastor starts censoring the playlist. The owner initially supports it ( some music is pretty crass ) but then Imagine, John Lennon hits the list.\nJohnny and Carlson listen and he sees the danger to caving into these people.", "Feels like a warning from the 80s doesn’t it?", "That episode was indeed from 81. WKRP was an \"overlap\" series, running from 78 - 82. It's subjective obviously but to me that series felt so much more a part of the 70s than the 80s.", "That’s interesting because I always felt it was early 80s in my head, I went from MASH and into W.K.R.P. Which was 70s syndication into 80s syndication.\nSpeed kills Dell.", "WKRP was such a good show. I haven't seen it in years and automatically still sang all the lyrics.\n\nLes Nesman rules.", "The two time winner of the Buckeye Newshawk Award should know that it’s Fountain Square…\nDo better Les Nessman!\n\nBut this was the sweetest he ever was in the show.", "Bto matter how hard you try, Travis Scott isn't gonna blow you.", "I always remember this as a two episode story with the first half ending when Mr Carlson is told about what happened. Instead, thats roughly the halfway point of the episode.\n\nAs a 12 year old kid, I hated this one. It wasn't funny! If I wanted \"serious\", I'd pay attention to real life.\n\nAs a 53 year old, I still don't like it because it really happened. \"Safety regulations are written in blood,\" they say in auto racing. The real world, too.", "How do you misspell \"no\"?", "The same way others do it: too much reliance on lousy spelchek. I didn't bother to proofread my comment. Sorry, I didn't think you were worth that much effort.", "Rewatched the entire series after Frank Bonner's death (actor who played Herb) and this was the first thing I thought of when I saw the recent news.", "It was a great episode.\n1) Thanksgiving Turkey Giveaway\n2) Bomb Threat\n3) Pilot\n4) The Concert Tragedy \n5) Jennifer's Nudes\nEdit 6) Johnny and Venus get drunk and the Cop tests their reflexes. Johnny gets faster.", "Wild turkeys can fly short distances. Domesticated turkeys raised for meat can not. In either case, they shouldn't be dropped from a helicopter.", "I love how he was flattered when Mr. Carlson’s mother said he was obtuse", "The length of your reply says otherwise.", "Only because I was explaining my error. That's more important than you.", "Agreed." ]	36	videos	In 1979 during a Who concert in Cincinnati 11 people died from a crowd rush. WKRP in Cincinnati created an episode using the event with a uncharacteristically serious ending. This is that episode.
https://youtu.be/2KYELDnkly4?t=203	/r/videos/comments/qots3r/coheed_and_cambria_stops_the_show_to_break_up_a/	[ "Claud don’t play that", "Why are so many of these [band stops show to help someone] videos posted here today? Is there a specific occasion for it?", "I'm wondering the same thing... seems ridiculous otherwise and who gives a flying f**k?", "8+ people died at the Astroworld concert a couple days ago but while the commotion was happening the sSinger (Travis Scott) stopped a few times to try to get attendees some help but the effort was very poor and the show probably should’ve stopped more sufficiently in order to get proper medical attention to the attendees in need of it. Mass casualties due to insufficient awareness of the crowds needs.", "Ah, ok. That explains it. Thanks for the info. 🙂" ]	5	videos	Coheed and Cambria stops the show to break up a fight
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qots5r/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qots5r/deleted_by_user/	[ "Crowd control videos. So hot right now.", "I was here.", "I'm still here.", "Okay. That's more than enough of these.", "OK as much as this is an overdone thing on /r/videos right now....\n\nI kinda wanna go cry at a Florence and the Machine concert now, because I would love for Florence to hug me. She seems like a really awesome person from all the stuff I've seen of her. \n\nHer playing for a cancer ward: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HuYEOO2r1g", "At least we didn't have to hear her" ]	6	videos	[deleted by user]
https://youtu.be/G8nWAYQp8-8	/r/videos/comments/qouehv/trivium_stopping_the_show_to_help_a_fan_leave_the/	[ "Most artists do this!!!!", "Jessie stopped a concert once to stop a fight happening in the pit. It’s the responsible thing to do, those crowds are lethal if someone hits the ground!!!", "Definitely was quick with the flashlight." ]	3	videos	Trivium stopping the show to help a fan leave the crowd safely
https://youtu.be/xYeA3r2o_HM	/r/videos/comments/qoug8z/a_final_gift_for_my_best_friend/	[ "I’m not crying, you’re crying… \n\n😭\n\nI lost my beloved dog Bella last year. She was a strong girl who lost her fight to cancer.", "Thanks for the feedback, much appreciated! 🙏. Loosing these little creatures is awful!", "Song was very well performed and video is very touching. Thanks for sharing!", "I’m an amateur but I’ve been playing my whole life, thanks again! 🙂" ]	4	videos	A Final Gift For My Best Friend
https://youtu.be/ld-hF7nAYUU	/r/videos/comments/qouqc0/michael_jackson_stops_a_show_because_a_bug_is_on/	[ "They’ll always try to tear down the angels", "They?", "I'm glad someone finally ripped on all these shit posts about other musicians stopping a show. \n\nWe get it. The dudes a POS who seems to have no remorse for what happened.", "That look of \"I didn't kill the fucking bug, here, look. Leave me alone.\"", "i love him. always. <3 <3 <3\n\nso much.", "Travis Scott would have killed that bug. Bastard.", "It has been cool seeing all these other people being bros though. It's just the internet rage for today, it'll go away soon. Unlike that douchebag Joel Michael Singer, who's name will be synonymous with \"bitch\" for all eternity.", "So Travis Scott is a piece of shit and should be shunned/cancelled?", "Yep", "The demons who hide in the corners and spread the teachings of the old ones.", "ootl?", "Oh boy. Google Astro World.", "Yes.", "I heard the new Travis Scott meal at McDonalds is pancakes.", "Both are what makes society today a piece of shit. I'll be back to gripe more after I find my wool pussy hat.", "I love how we see all these legendary artists having down to earth reactions to help people in the crowd, and then there's Michael on a stratospheric level.\n\nIf anyone should have that kind of scene about a freaking bug, it's him.", "> Leave me alone\n\nSo just leave me aloooone", "yeah, the little cunts who think they fucking know", "That's just Frank. And he's full of shit.", "11 people died at astroworld and there’s video of Travis Scott performing while unconscious people are trying to be moved out of harm", "It’s interesting where some people draw the line, he won’t kill a little bug but he has no problem with raping children", "He might love you back, but that depends on your age... \nEdit: oh no, the pedofenders are here.", "Don't hurry on our account. We'll be fine without you.", "Do you know for a fact he knew what was going on in a group of thousands and decided to say who cares?", "The guy you’re replying to was just answering the question. He’s not the prosecutor or some shit.", "Question the hive mind", "Yeah there’s a video of him watching them try to get someone out of the crowd and he never skips a beat but watches the whole time", "This wasn’t the first time Travis Scott was like this though and failed to learn a lesson.", "He did.", "How far away was it? Were there lights on the stage shining in the performers eyes? I don't listen to the guy, I know nothing about it but there are many things to consider before rushing to judgement.", "Michael is innocent.", "Meh, I still like seeing videos of musicians caring about their fans.", "Proven innocent in a court of his peers.", "That’s ignorant. You’re ignorant", "Jim Morrison had a similar moment on stage with a grasshopper. He wrote an ode to it and everything. Not sure if he saved the grasshopper, but he pointed it out. Then he realized it was actually a moth. Fuck, did I dream that?", "I've never heard of Travis Scott but I saw a girl faint at an outdoor St. Lucia concert once. The keyboard player was the only one on stage who noticed and she kept an eye on the situation while still playing. Someone came and helped her pretty quick so it was fine.\n\nAnyway that security guard probably killed the bug.", "You’re right! Actually maybe no one died, I didn’t see their dead bodies so how can I know for sure", "Maybe Travis Scott wasn’t even there, I didn’t physically touch him so I can’t say for sure", "Can you address [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/trashy/comments/fgb0mo/fan_tries_to_steal_travis_scotts_shoe_at_his/) or [this](https://www.highsnobiety.com/p/travis-scott-sued-by-fan-jumped-from-balcony/)? \n\nWhat about [this](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/travis-scotts-habit-of-cheering-on-wild-crowds-has-already-brought-legal-problems_n_61785761e4b066de4f68a09e) quote from a HuffPo article:\n\nScott cemented his reputation for rowdy shows during 2015’s Lollapalooza festival in Chicago, when he took the stage for a packed crowd ― albeit briefly. Police arrested Scott and charged him with disorderly conduct after only a few minutes, saying that he was encouraging fans to jump barriers and rush the stage in defiance of festival security measures.\n\nFurthermore I said it SEEMS. There are people who have watched his [post](https://youtu.be/bX2TRtSLxOA) about the event after it happened and are inclined to feel the same as I do. \n\nAnyone who can incite mob violence against another person for something as petty as attempting to steal a shoe is pretty cold in my opinion. Compound that with goading someone to jump from a balcony and encouraging large groups of people to rush a stage (despite having previously been admonished for the same thing) ... It's hard to not think he feels or assumes zero responsibility because fans were getting on stage and pleading with him and security to stop the show. \n\nSo while my initial response may seem cruel, I believe I've made my case. However, I'm open to having my mind changed.", "It's in the Hollywood Bowl show from 68 during The End", "I see what you did there. And it worked.", "I don't blame him honestly, a large smushed bug would be something you would want to avoid stepping on and it would disrupt him", "That totally reminds me of that time that Epstein didn't kill himself.", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-B0ad62tlAQ", "Why do you say that?", "Everyone knows they're called hotcakes at McDonald's", "He didn't stop his finger going in little boys butts", "Thats a bit cold.", "Bro this shit made me laugh so hard it was difficult to play the video.", "I always cringe at “Reddit hivemind” shit but holy fuck, r/videos being an endless spam of “x artist stops show” is the most hivemind soulless shit ever. It’s just karmafarming a tragedy mixed with a unhealthy dose of some weird ass parasocial moral superiority.", ">\tso just leave me aloooone\n\nStop it, Just stop \nDoggin’ me around", "So was OJ", "Alll mumble rap robots should be shunned.", "Pretty sure most of the outraged comments are from people who don’t even listen to his type of music or even heard of him before yesterday.", "This concert-stopping vid is the sweetest one", "and the real Ghislaine Maxwell isn't hiding at a Mossad safehouse in Israel.", "karma grab more than anything. people who still like travis scott won't care and the person that can actually do something to change travis scott's behaviour is travis scott himself and he isn't scrolling thru r/videos", "Sure, when it’s wrong. The number of dead, who was performing, and the manner of death are, at this point, known facts.", "Theres an undercurrent of racism though.\n\nYou only have to scroll down in the comment sections to see people saying \"this wouldn't happen at a white persons show\" or \"he only gets away with it because he's black\".\n\nIf there are people straight up saying that, think of the amount of people just suggesting that.\n\nEdit: link to some of the comments https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/qp3xll/travis_scott_screams_homophobic_slurs_at_fans/hjrthb5", "Or Brock \"Rapist\" Turner", "Plus he's actually Michael Jackson. That could actually change the floor texture enough to cause him to get hurt", "Is that true? Link to a previous incident where someone died from crowd crushing at a Travis Scott concert?\n\nEDIT: Judging from the downvote instead of a response that it's NOT true that there was a crowd crushing incident, but IS true that there were previous incidents that wouldn't do anything to inform him about crowd crushing.", "Lol, it was only a matter of time before people dragged race into this.", "That's a guy who is sick of Michaels shit.", "What.. the fuck dude. Fuck Travis, and fuck racist pieces of shit talking completely out of their element. Stop bringing your bullshit takes into important conversations, what is wrong with these people.", "To me it just sounds like your raging at nothing. Huge swaths of people are defending travis saying it's impossible to look out for your fans at concerts. I don't understand why it's so bad to show examples of the opposite. Sounds like reddit just isn't the place for you if you get this hot and bothered at a few posts on r/videos. I like to think the posters aren't satan-worshipping assholes, but maybe i'm not cynical enough.", "Come on Grandpa, you know you're not supposed to be on reddit. Always with the robots and the mumble rap, did you forget to take your meds?", "Did you reply to the wrong person? I agree with you.", "Sorry terrible phrasing on my part, I was agreeing with you and cursing the commenters in the link above.", "Haha, no problem. Got a little confused myself there, but yeah. Insane people.", "People being shitty is what's wrong with society, but so is holding people accountable for being shitty?", "Except for the pedophilia and stuff. \n\nBut hey, at least he didnt hurt that bug", "He didn't do it.", "Oh ok that clears it all up, sorry for the misunderstanding, ill be going now bye", "I believe he shared a bed with children that were not his own, but not in a sexual way. Dude was just all kinds of messed up and his boundary sensors went bust", "Thanks for stopping by", "Yep just need to have enough money.", "And then told the audience to fuck it up.", "I see this as a more likely scenario.", "[Travis Scott not clearing room in the crowd and instead encouraging the crowd to flip off medical staff.](https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qpiiwf/travis_scott_clearly_sees_the_ambulance_and_then/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)", "That's not an answer to the question I asked. Blocked for being literally dumber than Travis Scott.", "I didn’t say what your question said. You said something different. No need to get butthurt.", "This is the exact kind of creepy feigned innocence that he used to lure children into being molested." ]	85	videos	Michael Jackson stops a show because a bug is on stage.
https://youtu.be/2gRKMXOi-HA	/r/videos/comments/qoutj3/kurt_cobain_stops_a_show_to_shame_and_throw_a_fan/	[ "maybe the fan was giving him the middle finger, or he was ready to throw the bottle.", "Everyone is better than Travis Scott, got it.", "He literally says “coppin’ a feel eh, buddy?”", "CHOOOOO CHOOOOOOO", "You're looking at the internet too much if that's bothering you.", "Yeah sorry there are people out there that actually care when lives are lost so senselessly. I guess people trying to point out better ways to conduct yourself at a concert is boring to you but to some people, this is very important information to share. Your Reddit videos will be back to normal in a day or so your highness.", "Travis Scott stops show to help fan\n\nhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ml9EGK5OaNo", "I guess he's a pragmatist, if they're still alive he'll help them, but if they're dead - he knows there's nothing he can do. Smart guy.", "Be real. People are just karma farming the flavor of the day.", "This just makes it worse. You see how that's worse right? It shows he knows there are crowd issues and how to deal with them and just chose not to, resulting in more deaths and injuries.", "What happened recently at the Travis concert is horrible and Travis acted horribly. Just posting this to show how it’s stupid to post of all of these posts of various artists taking care of fans when I can easily do that with Travis himself", "Did Travis Scott say rush the stage or something? Other than being black, I'm not understanding all the negative press. It's pretty common sense that after age 24 you don't go to the front of the pack. After being in front of a Deftones concert, once was enough for me. Now I just hang at the back, sit on the grass and enjoy some grass at most concerts.", "Idk, it takes one to know one I guess. If you don’t think people actually care about this, then maybe you should get real. People are not doing it for the Karma, they are making a fucking example of what not to do at your concert.", "He tweeted out that they’re still sneaking the “real ones” in AKA people w/o tickets who were still trying to storm the gates which basically incited those people to come in over capacity and try to get to the front. That causes the people in front to get straight crushed more than normal", "People died..what is wrong with you? There’s a lot of first time concert goers who might not know concert etiquette or go back to a Travis concert because they think it’s not his fault. This helps people go to the right concerts where the lead actually gives a shit about his fans.\n\n Besides that, It’s pretty normal to show how things should be handled after an accident occurs in order to avoid it happening again.", "Now imagine all the times he didn’t.", "I wonder how much longer these are going to be posted/upvoted.\n\nIt's interesting to me how people react to this stuff. It's always \"Look, he did a bad thing! He could have done a good thing! Here is an example of a good thing!\"\n\nHowever, I can't be anything but cynical about the fact that this stuff will keep happening and the people responsible won't be punished.\n\nSociety is \"good\" enough to give an upvote, not good enough to change their behavior to fix the issue.", "You're of the position that noticing and showing competency in one crowd control scenario is evidence that he was acutely aware of the situation and capable in a different scenario?", "Next you know it's gonna be the guy from Alice in chains punching the nazi video or whatever.", "This pussy attitude is why the USA can't win wars anymore and has not since the 70's. We're raising a victim culture. Just step the fuck aside.", "Dang I expected another hurtful but this...this is nice I like it", "With great power comes great responsibility", "Yes, but to be fair, people are acting like travis scott has personally executed dozens of people in the arena while the majority of the blame is probably on the organizers. This hasn't been the first crowd crush on one of their events. Not saying Travis Scott isn't a dick, but acting like this is all his fault alone is absurd.", "GG Allin would like a word.", "Charlie Hunnam as Kurt Cobain for whenever they make a biopic.", "He also told off another famous rock star after the other guy tried to get underage girls to flash the stage. This was before Nirvana was really famous and they were opening for a huge 80s band. \nNot going to name the other party specifically but I will say this was the start of Kurts feud with Axl. \n\nOops.", "this is the guy who fucked a girl with severe mental deficiencies right", "Yeah, the USA losing wars is definitely not because of a poor educational system raising smooth brain individuals like yourself.", "Well the guy was literally singing about murder and that's what people showed up to listen to.\n\nEdit: all the people down voting, you mad bro? Lol. Truth", "That lack of winning any wars since the 70's stings doesn't it. Don't worry, we're still the greatest best.", "Mostly everyone sings about murder to some extent at some point. This is a week argument made in bad faith. Like, satanic panic levels of bad.", "[Uhhh... Van Halen, right?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCRuRRpieTI&ab_channel=TheSmango)", "please for the love anything that is good, dont make a fucking kurt cobain biopic. 90% of biopics are overdramatized garbage", "What's xxxtentacion up to?", "Most people don't sing about murder and def don't glorify it, stop trying to normalize this behavior.", "And, I love seeing random good acts being cool. They’re better musicians and people than this Travis Scott guy", "He has been asking his fans to do things like this for a while. Now he gets what he asked for", "\"Things like this\" or to specifically rush the stage on that very date? I hope you are not a lawyer or public defender, because that's a dogshit strawman.", "are you stupid or is today special", "r/shitamericanssay", "I am honestly lost in this conversation....WHO exactly sings about murder? No sarcasm, just can't follow who we are talking about.", "I’m not suggesting he should be arrested, just that he’s a reckless asshole. Are you his mom?", "I guess... you gotta be real fucking stupid to hit Enter on that message to begin with.", "Nah, I just live in Florida. Where it is currently not snowing.", "He''s been arrested TWICE at his concerts for inciting riots before.", "Charlie weighs like 70 lbs too much lol", "&#x200B;\n\nCurt Kobain would have made a great Joker /S", "This is not a racial issue...", "Not only will nothing be done, he is getting free publicity. He is being talked about. His fans don't care because they're assholes too", ">Charlie Hunnam\n\nIn an alternate universe where Cobain was addicted to weight lifting instead of heroin maybe.", "That’s “YOUR” royal highness actually. \n\nThat guy probably.", "Imagine an artist you presumably enjoy calling you out like that and shaming you. You'd have to be a complete sociopath to not let that ruin you", "I mean, most people who write horror media don't actually usually condone violence in real life. People tell stories (and yes, songwriting is telling a story) about stuff like murder because it's a safe way to experience something that they wouldn't actually want to go through personally. \n\nThe problem with Travis Scott isn't that he was selling a fantasy, it's that when the people who came to participate in the fantasy showed up, he got on the mic and told them the fantasy should be reality.", "Lol I’m enjoying it. Lots of good throwbacks", "I'm loving this vibe of celebrating artists and performers who take responsibility for, and look after, their audiences. If this is reddit's current zeitgeist, I'm all for it\n\nAnd yeah. Fuck Travis Scott. Hopefully we, as a society, do a better job with tossing his trailer trash out than we did with Chris Brown.", "You’re a dipshit", "Read the lyrics.", "Ehhh, I bet most artists around long enough have at least one murder ballad. Glorify is a bit more subjective though. Did Reba glorify murder? \n\nAlso do we need to add mangled and abused sociological terms to every internet argument? It's like brining up 1984 now.", "I hate blaming comments on mental health but go get checked out. People died and you’re calling them pussies. What is wrong with you?", "That would probably be Guns n’ Roses. They stopped a show to prevent crowd crush, too.", "I’m actually not surprised Kurt Cobain stopped and stepped in. I remember back in the day reading interviews about his views on women in rock. He had a lot of respect for women rockers. He was also raised by a single mother.", "What are you even attempting to say?", "See he believes in charity too! Wut a peach \n\n/s", "About 6 feet.", "What does this comment mean? Are you talking about Courtney Love? You're accusing someone having \"mental deficiencies\" while showcasing your own. Learn to articulate your own stupid thoughts better.", "Funny how you are arguing the exact opposite elsewhere in these threads 2 hours before you posted this. It's almost like you are a useless troll, Scott fanboy, or Scott PR agent trying to sway the outlook on this. Given your name its either 1 or 2 . So which is it?\n\nGaylordretardson on this incident in another thread:\n\n>Legit some of the bands shown though (e.g. Guns n Roses) are examples of the fact that nobody fucking knows anything about Crowd Crushing until there's an incident, and then after someone dies they're acutely aware of it from that point forward.Guarantee you that 1) The guns n roses incident where someone died went down very similarly 2) Travis Scott will pay attention to crowd density from this point forward now that he knows why something happened, 3) 100% of the people who expected him to know about this shit didn't know a week ago and to this day will give advice on what to do better that actually would have made the situation worse, unless it's advice directly from an example they saw posted on reddit.", "Man so Scott really's got no one beneath.", "We going to show video after video of cars safely driving after each car crash too?", "If there is a preventable car crash and fans of the driver keep saying there is no way the driver could have done anything about it, yeah", "Fuck that dude. Idk why anyone would pay money to see him and potentially have shit thrown at you…", "[No](https://www.talkhouse.com/buzz-osborne-the-melvins-talks/)", "i don’t understand how can you generalize such a large group like that.", "Not only is Charlie Hunnam too big but he's currently 14 years older than Kurt was when he died.", "He was an ally and especially outspoken against misogyny, homophobia and racism.", "Well, Cobain killed himself while Travis whatever didn't.\n\nShould tell us someting", "Or raped. Don't forget about the rape!", "The hypocrisy was the worst part.", "My least favorite thing about him is that hes a fucking atrocious musician. Like I feel like having the ability to throw shit at people doesnt make you talented.", "I read about this in Heavier Than Heaven, and then I kept reading articles saying random people connected to Kurt say it isn’t true or that it’s not telling the whole story. It’s hard to know what to believe now.", "I mean, it's really easy. You can do it, too.", "Pretty sure there's been at least 2 at this point", "When did nirvana open for guns n Rose's? Never, I'm sure", "Travis Scott is trash.", "Is that Pat Smear stage left that kinda prances in at the end?", "He’s got a good head on his shoulders", "I don't think those who are responsible of what happened are here upvoting anything", "Yeeaaaaaaah. Axl wanted Nirvana to open for GNR and Metallica on the stadium tour in 1992, that's when the whole feud started. Never happened", "Absolutely!", "you've cancelled travis scott, but have you tried cancelling this other guy? \n\nreddit loves republicans, got it.", "Wow, Van Halen? Who else?", "He’s dead.", "I don’t think the hypocrisy was the worst part….RIP Norm", "Heroin beat us to it.", "Who is? Travis Scott? Should Reddit back off? Is that the goal? Or...", ">I just live in Florida\n\nThat explains a lot", "Oh good. We need MORE social engineering through passive aggressive propaganda. Hope your tribe changes the world!", "What does that tell us....?", "Calling out someone who saw people die in front of him and kept the show going, leading to more death, is not propaganda", "I was shocked when I listened to GG Allin, I assumed it was gonna be really grimey hardcore punk stuff, but a lot of it just sounds like KISS. Especially like Dont Talk To Me, Bite It, and No Rules. Idk, some of it just sounds like what an after school special’s version of “punk”.", "Oh please. were you this concerned (or even old enough) to care about Darfur? We're talking 1st world problems in a country that calls any regulation communism. \n\n\n\n\n\n\nMy problem with the media coverage and the dumb fucking americans such as yourself falling right in line with it. Despite having enough money to feed the entire world, 25,000 people die of starvation each day. And you are worried about 10 people from a privileged display of wealth. I think you are the one who needs to get checked out......in the library of the current events section. https://www.un.org/en/chronicle/article/losing-25000-hunger-every-day\n\n\n\n\n\nIs that crisis too far back? How about something in the same timeframe such as last week. Like Yemen. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/interactive/2021/yemen-war-hunger-famine/\n\n\n\n\n\nhttps://www.un.org/en/chronicle/article/losing-25000-hunger-every-day\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nSorry I'm not outraged about people breaking the law to see first rate entertainment acts and the loss of 10 lives as a result. Call me an asshole. Call me whatever you want. As long as it is not uninformed.", "r/FuckTravisScott", "It's easy. If your mind can't register more than one variable at a time.", "He’s one of the biggest hip hop artists in the world, he doesn’t need publicity anyway", "Look at em haaa haaa haaaa!", "I mean it would've been pretty radical early on. The sex pistols are super light compared to the metal etc we have know. But they were so out there they started a worldwide movement.", "ok, but who is that?", "There's a certain pecking order in prison...", "travis scott apologists like, “BuT wHaT wAs He SuPPoSeD tO Do, StOp tHe ShOw?”", "You are correct. He joined during the tour for \"In Utero\" because Kurt Cobain was both lead and rhythm guitar", "Your comment was about cancelling the “other guy” (GG Allin). GG Allin is dead.", "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_ballad", "Bragging about murder or describing a murder, which one is worse? We all already know the answer. One is scum, the other is for education.", "Yes he did.", "That the wrong people die.", ">Should tell us someting\n\nI think it tells us that you're a fucking dipshit.", "One of my favorite quotes from him is when he said that he sometimes wished he was gay so he could piss off more homophobes.", "What, some murder ballads are written from the perspective of the murderer. I'm just saying, that's not where we should take issue.", "Isn't he the McDonald's guy who had a bundle a couple years ago?", "I think first the punches, then getting hit with feces, then the hypocrisy.", "Americans > reading comprehension\n\n\nUse your brain cells and reread, c'mon, rub both of them together now.", "Especially when the whole band joins in.", "Republicans? What the fuck is you talmbout?", "..okay? Idk why you’re saying I’m too young or don’t care about other tragedies bc of this. Also not sure why you feel the need to compare tragedies. Does it make you feel better or higher than other people?\n\n>Sorry I’m not outraged \n\nNot sure why you’re apologizing lol I could give a shit what you do/don’t care about. Good on you only caring about “real” tragedies I suppose", "Kurt was a punk, I know someone who met him at a party and said he was “very sweet”", "I'm sure these posts are for the people (Redditors) that feel the need to defend Scott and to rebut their arguments, which is usually, there was \"nothing he could do\".", "I mean, you were warned by his username.", "So R Kelly 2022?", "So you see everything all the time. Got it.", "Didn't he used to suck dick for drugs?", "Never heard of him until now.", "Didn't several people die in that Metallica concert where a million people attended in Russia? I didn't see anyone blame Metallica for that. It's strange that one on Reddit is putting any blame on the organisers who are the ones to blame for what happened.", "I mean, by the end of his career he was doing spoken word because h probably realized how bad he was.", "He performed at the Super Bowl half time show, one of the biggest shows in the world like two years ago.", "Naw that was Dee Dee Ramone.", "What if it was his gf bro", "Wow look at you complete changing the subject because you know you're in a losing position. Fucking weak piece of shit. Just accept that Travis is a piece of shit and shut the fuck up.", "He’s alluding to the fact that almost a dozen women were either sexually harassed or groped during various Nirvana concerts but he never bothered to temporarily stop the performances to address it or to get security to intervene but I guess it doesn’t matter because Fox News and CNN aren’t making it known to the public", "That's Adam Egert", "If you're a fan of someone who acts like that when people are being killed in front of him, when dead people are being carried out by EMS he's mad at for disrupting the show, you're an asshole.\n\nIt's real easy to generalize people based on who they support.\n\nThere's plenty of music out there, if some of it is made by a shitty human, you can listen to something comparable made by someone who isn't a piece of shit. People in the comments saying he's one of the biggest names in music. That doesn't mean he's good, it means he appeals to the widest audience. That's your first clue that his music is absolutely replaceable.\n\nIt's not like Weird Al, where he's the only noteworthy person in his genre.", "Too bad he couldn't look after himself", "As long as there are easy upvotes to be had the posting will continue.", "How many of those dead people had their lifeless bodies carried out on a stretcher in front of james hetfield who watched them and continued singing \"yeeeeaaahahhahaaaa yeeeeeeaaaaaaahahhahhhh\"?", "I’d say another 12hrs before the upvotes begin to dwindle and the topic dies. Reddit moves rather quickly.", "The US is not the world lmao.", "I WANT to think it is less about karma whoring on some bandwagon that started and more about exposing bad behavior with examples of good...\n\nHowever...\n\nI've a feeling all this attention has made him more popular. There are tons of like minded people who are assholes and will absolutely support other assholes.\n\nIt was a publicity stunt sadly in his favor. Yeah people will say he sucks...but those assholes are gonna support him more than ever...and assholes are die hard fans of other assholes.", "idk, I'm not like in the music or live show scene and I've really been enjoying watching all these clips people are posting.", "He was a side show elevated to a stage show. A literal freak, given attention only because of how insane he was. Everyone wants an unforgettable memory. Nobody's gonna forget GG", "For another day at least. The anti wave is getting bigger and we are already seeing humorous meta posts", "Since Norm died, he's had to go back to jerking punks off under the Queensborough bridge for $15 a man.", "Worst Reddit trend ever, ffs stop already with this shit.", "Are you for fucking real, man?", "no, this is pretty great", "thats not true at all", "Big [Thom Yorke stopping the show because a fan was having a seizure](https://youtu.be/gdbrhE4Nvec?t=140) energy. Or maybe it's the other way around.", "I don't know what else could be done aside from raising people's awareness honestly. I already don't listen to his music, so it's not like I'm supporting him. \n\nAnd I feel like if there were suddenly posts about people not buying his music, people like you would complain about all of those popping up eventually too.\n\nJust go outside if you're tired of seeing the same posts.", "Rip Taylor", "I really enjoyed that, I can’t believe as a melvins and nirvana fan I’d never seen it.", "That’s not the same as being gay", "Fun fact, while kurt is yelling at the asshole, the bass noodles out the baseline to the Germ’s We Must Bleed. Pat was a member of the germs and all the nirvana guys loved them. \n\nEDIT: I think that's actually Grohl on bass because they switched up instruments for Sunbeam", "He's in prison...", "he's like one of those 12 in a dozen artists?", "He could live off his mangrate money if he wanted to. Going back to the bridge isn't about the money. Everyone grieves in their own way.", "Doesn't ring a bell", "And they're Nirvana.", "Nah fuck this and fuck you too.", "10 bucks is 10 bucks.", "Wait.... what??", "Nah, just pointing out an observational fact to a victim culture.", "Those aren't opposite claims, you just can't read.\n\nOne is a question about clarification on your position, and the other is my position. \n\nBlocked for being completely fucking illiterate.", "A man's gotta eat", "Jesus the security weren't exactly gentle with him were they.", "I’d like to buy that guy a beer!", "Yeah but it's never too late to cancel someone right?", "I mean Reddit must love Republicans if they're doing exactly what Republicans accuse liberals of doing...proving their rhetoric isn't hyperbole is like a gift to them..we're entering day 2 of cancelfest, who should the mob cancel today?", "I've only seen a few of the countless videos that are out there and just that is incredibly damning. And obvious he knew what was happening. How tf are people defending him lol", "I know he isn’t but it was just something that indicates his fame.\n\nHe’s a quite well known artist, just because he’s an asshole doesn’t change that fact.", "I suggest you look Up GG, he is not the kind of Guy worth defending. Nice Hill you have Up here, not nice enough to die on though.", "I guess a mob is now the judge and the jury, cool.", "Yup, me and the gang are scootin' on over to New Hampshire to dig out ol' GG from his resting place. Fixing him Up with a nice post-mortem hanging. You want in?", "Would that stop Trump! Think bigly here.", "That happened in 1991, long before any kind of online social media. Reported stories were at the whim of media companies - nothing could \"go viral\". If that happened today, yes I'm sure there would be reddit threads, twitter, etc. blasting Metallica and the other bands for letting that happen. Just because other people have been responsible for deaths doesn't mean we shouldn't be roasting this Travis Scott guy right now...", "That sounds so backwards. \"People say that liberals do this\" while watching someone do it; sounds more like they must be liberals not the other way around. Now, is that always a good assumption? No, but it's a better one than the opposite.", "I didn't even know Taylor was sick!", "Sure, but none of these artists aided in the deaths of 8 people and the injuries of many more. Travis did. So while you can say that posting these clips is disingenuous, the fact that none of them went on to commit an atrocity means that there’s infinitely more sincerity in these clips than the Travis Scott one. Don’t defend this piece of shit.", "https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/qoyovm/everyone_searching_for_another_wholesome_musician/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf", "It's like Reddit's version of cancel culture but instead of cancelling them they keep talking about the celebrity instead of the issue and what we can do about it.\n\nI don't really know who Travis Scott is and I'm still confused on the details of what happened, I've seen his name much more on here than mention of the actual event itself.", "I wonder what Ja Rule thinks about this.", "OMG that's so funny..", "Not surprise, Kurt Cobain was a pure mind...so close to the stars, so far from Scott Travis and all the others...Thank u !", "How was he supposed to tell it was as bad as it was? How is it not any of the festival organizers fault? I get that he promoted it beforehand but y’all act like he has an all-seeing eye and just assume he knew the whole time because you WANT to blame him. Fuck off.", "even the dead ones", "I was at this show. I still talk about this moment!", "I can make you a burger, Randy, better than store bought", "GG Allin would probably think it would be hilarious to be cancelled. I mean, as much as anything could reach his shriveled, blackened heart", "Yeah he liked to poop on stage and throw it at people while smearing it all over himself. Dude was certifiably insane.", "I'm pretty sure you're talking about Van Halen. In 93-94, Eddie was drunk off his ass and tried convincing Kurt to let them open for Nirvana, after the success of In Utero. What's interesting about this story is that Van Halen was the band that Kurt Cobain saw, when he attended his first concert, as a teenager (once Kurt was in the punk scene, he started saying his first concert was Black Flag). Now, years later, he's watching the lead from Van Halen, holding an acoustic guitar, and drunkenly begging Kurt to let him play.", "I've been to concerts with many female friends. I was naive once and warned a friend not to do it because she's going to get felt up she just said \"I know\" with a sly smile. It certainly doesn't make it right but sometimes women don't need you to rescue them.", "You are more safe in a Cannibal Corpse Mosh than in a Travis Scott crowd", "He has actually and told people to break through the fences.", "You do realize you're defending a rapist and a guy who would throw shit at people right?", "There is nothing \"acutely aware, about Travis Scot, he was mumble moaning from a tower as a corpse was \"crowdsurfed\" on a board by a team in hi vis jackets at the front fo thr crowd and he didn't even react.\n\nMotherfucker went on for 30 min after the venue declared a situation and fucking ambulances with lights on showed up.\n\nFuck Scott and fuck anyone defending him.", "I thought Joe Anderson (from Across the Universe) would have been a great pick years ago but I agree no biopic.", "I'm not defending anyone, I'm deriding cancel culture, people here are literally doing what fox news has accused them of doing.", "The most impressive part of this is just dropping right back into Myxomatosis", "\"I'm deriding cancel culture\" Yeah by bitching about it cause people said GG is a rapist and throws his shit at people. And your response is \"wahh cancel culture\" So yes you are defending a rapist.", "I was at a show where he did this as well. Also Dave Grohl gave his shirt to a girl who had her shirt ripped while crowd surfing. He did it again years later at a foo fighters show. These guys are 100% stand up human beings", "Well, he did, anyhow.", "> So yes you are defending a rapist.\n\n/r/confidentlyincorrect\n\nCya next time young progressives bitch about losing elections", "Yupp, FUCK TRAVIS SCOTT", "So you're saying we shouldn't cancel rapist celebrities? We should just let celebrities do what they want? How are you not defending a rapist? If you have problems with \"cancelling\" someone for rape. You are defending rape.", "“Look at tha lih-el baby…”", "At least there’s a twist on this one. I kinda enjoyed it. Reminds of the futurama globetrotter episode “sweet Clyde..laugh derisively at him”", "…who?", "We’d rather see you cry some more about it", "\"You gonna cry, crybaby?\"", "I'm saying no one should be cancelled. Just stop buying their shit and ignore them, that's all it takes to ruin an entertainers career, you don't have to spam social media for days with their dirty laundry to try to ruin their career.\n\nAngry mobs of ignorant bullies spouting hyperbole, just like you did here, makes anywhere this is done a toxic place. \n\nI have absolutely no care for this person, I take issue with the process. You're internet bullying a rapist, and in the process, bullying a bunch of other people too.", "you're right, women are definitely asking to be felt up by going to concerts. If they didn't want it they'd stay at home, right?\n/s", "> women are definitely asking to be felt up by going to concerts.\n\nIf that's your interpretation of my post you have a reading disability. Was neither said nor were women even the point of the post.", "Lol so if someone rapes someone we should just not buy their music? Yeah. You're a moron.", "If a rapper rapes someone, yes, don't buy their music or merchandise, and let the court handle their legal problems....instead of cyber bullying them and anyone who takes issue with your cyber bullying.", "https://twitter.com/tylerthecreator/status/285670822264307712\n\nYeah and \"liberals\" are the \"snowflakes\"", "I'm a liberal, I'm also not the one trying to end someone's career like I'm some vigilante keyboard warrior though either.", "\"im a liberal\" Yes the liberal that says Cancel culture isn't real until Fox News told you so.", "Look him up, you can probably find a YouTube summary of who he is. Be warned, the dude was seriously insane, dangerous, and disgusting.", "It's called self awareness, jabroni.", "Lol says the guy who thinks we should just let celebrities commit crimes.", "Sorry BigSwede I was making a joke. As far as I can recall piss shit and blood performance “art”. I guess he’s hard to forget for some especially if you went to a show but I wasn’t impressed myself with the shock stuff. It’s impressive in its own right but easily forgotten for me. But hey I smoke a lot a trees. No offense if you’re into that", "Who said anything about celebrities and crimes. I said cancel culture is a problem, I can't tell if this is a learning disability or your lack of self awareness...", "Because we were talking about Cancelling people for committing CRIMES and your response is to cry about cancel culture. And you say I lack awareness when you jumped into a conversation about cancelling people for committing crimes and bitch about cancel culture and wonder why I keep bringing up the fucking topic you jumped in to.", "Those aren't mutually exclusive, Reddit and Twitter keyboard bullies wanted to cancel Dave Chappelle over a joke, this all has nothing to do with crime. You literally inserted that into this...I have no idea why, but you brought it up. 🤷‍♂️", "True professionals, and all-around excellent human beans.", "Lol you inserted yourself into a conversation about GG Allin committing crimes not Dave Chappelle. LMAO someone was talking about GG Allin being a rapist and your reply was \"omg trying to cancel him\" Holy shit and I lack awareness?", "Thank god young people only cyber bully and don't actually vote or we'd be so fucked.", "Lmao nice changing the conversation because you realized you fucked up.", "Guy claims I'm supporting rape, crime, and confusing Dave Chappelle with someone else. Olympic level mental gymnastics, or learning disability, still amazing.", "\"GG Allin would like a word.\"\n\nThis is what you replied to\n\n\"you've cancelled travis scott, but have you tried cancelling this other guy?\n\nreddit loves republicans, got it.\"\n\nThis is your reply. Lmao you weren't talking about Chappelle. You were replying about GG Allin. Holy fuck this is great.", "I mentioned Chappelle and you went insane, keep going though this is funny.", "The subject was GG. You were replying to me about GG. This wasn't about Chappelle. If you wanted to talk about Chappelle why did you reply and have a large conversation about GG and then try and say that was never the topic even though that's what you replied to? Like I said. You inserted yourself into a conversation about GG. When confronted about it. You tried to play dumb and said I was paying attention lmao. You inserted yourself into a conversation about cancelling GG. And I'm not aware? At this point I must be getting trolled. Because you have 0 self awareness.", "It's nuts how people are finding all of these 😂", "So ? Just because you’ve never heard of him doesn’t mean he’s not one of the biggest artists in the world. That says more about you than it says about him.", "Lol @ thinking some garbage mumble rapper is worthy of someone knowing.", "Oh no doubt about that, I was just shocked seeing his face and hearing what today would constitute as a catchy pop song", "Kurt writes about trying to have sex with a mentally challenged girl in “Journals”.", "why is it private?", "Ok let's break down what you said. \n\nYou implied that your female friend was down to get groped at a concert, and then applied to it multiple women. And that \"women don't need you to rescue them,\" to quote you directly. All of this on a post where Kurt Cobain stops someone getting groped by a stranger. \n\nSo if you're not implying that women enjoy getting groped by strangers at concerts, what exactly are you saying? Please, clarify further.", "> You implied that your female friend was down to get groped at a concert\n\nNo, I outright stated so, because she was. \n\n>and then applied to it multiple women.\n\nMultiple, sure, you've decided I'm stating all women feel that way, I did not. \n\n>And that \"women don't need you to rescue them,\" to quote you directly.\n\nYes you certainly quoted me directly, you certainly did not leave off \"sometimes\" \n\n>So if you're not implying that women enjoy getting groped by strangers at concerts,\n\nAgain, some not all. \n\n>what exactly are you saying?\n\nWell... I don't know I guess I'm saying sometimes women don't need you to rescue them. \n\n>Please, clarify further.\n\nHow about don't assume women are helpless and need you to come in like a white knight and actually determine with them if they need your help before forcing it on them.", "Nah, not Van Halen, I was making an obvious wrong guess since the commenter mentioned \"axl\" who was certainly not in Van Halen. :)", "I made a funny. Wayne's World 2 reference", "Oh wow, it's been so long since I've seen Wayne's World 2, like years.\n\nBtw, I have to ask, didn't you think it was a trifle unnecessary to see the crack in the indians bottom.", "We had the same dream\n\n\nWoahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh" ]	264	videos	Kurt Cobain stops a show to shame and throw a fan out for sexually assaulting someone in the crowd
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yK-UGgvQGWo	/r/videos/comments/qouu3m/rage_against_the_machine_stop_their_show_to_avoid/	[ "This was at Lollapalooza in Chicago 2008 and I was there towards the back (not really in any danger where I was) but could see what was going on. There were lots of people without tickets jumping the fence into the park which made matters worse.", "Anyone got any Dramamine?", "Lmao people downvoting hahaha! See how easy it is for performers to care about their fans!" ]	3	videos	Rage Against the Machine stop their show to avoid crowd surge.
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qov1wh/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qov1wh/deleted_by_user/	[ "Yeah, thats actually a really good point. The guy.. basically \"played\" himself (?). I am trying to use more of this new hip language you youngsters are using nowadays.", "Applicant replies that's why you'll never have really qualified employees and you'll probably be fired before too long. Especially after I get done posting on the web about you. ASSHOLE!", "Reaction image video thumbnail, I don’t click", "I think that the applicant did not mention any of those things in his explanation that he was doing during. Otherwise the CEO would probably not describe it as nothing. If he was in fact just hanging out for years because his standards were too high, I wouldn't hire him either.\n\nThe LinkedIn post though is immature and unprofessional, I wouldn't want to work for that guy too.", "Not enough context. A five year job gap looks pretty bad and optics are important. That being said - he had that information up front so why did he still meet with the guy? Sounds like recruiters maybe brought him someone and insisted that he interview and he was mad that he was paying for someone he could have vetted up front. This is a case of karma being proactive." ]	5	videos	[deleted by user]
https://youtu.be/exSZQICbSb8	/r/videos/comments/qovgl4/weekend_update_goober_the_clown_on_abortion_snl/	[ "It's just you", "Idk man. I’m pro choice. Like I get the point they’re trying to make. Just don’t find it funny 🤷‍♂️", "I didn’t have a clown abortion and that was hard to watch. I laughed and cried.", "Good thing millions of people watch SNL and not just you.", "It's the big ol comfy couch clown lady", "I read this as \"This one skit didn't resonate with me, so it must be SNL, entirely, that's out of touch.\"", "This was great and clearly from the heart.", "Oh I get that. Just didn’t realize this subreddit was called “r/snl” \n\nAlso didn’t realize that you guys would be that touchy about my opinion.\n\nEither way their ratings reflect some of my opinion 🤷‍♂️ got it a lot of people still watch it but after looking at the viewing history over the years I think they need to brush up on their humor cuz this wasn’t it lol", "Ok so part of this is a running gag where Jost gets soaked by Cicely Strong. It was pretty funny when she was a drunk Judge Pierro spilling wine all over him last season. Otherwise the clown-for-women substitution was effective: funny or at least disarming and also sad and kind of chilling. Finally, Jost is Che's straight man, and plays it well so it's almost like you don't know how these bits are supposed to work?", "Well after watching this I looked up there views/ratings (which has gone down)\n\nYou right maybe I should watch more of the stuff and make another opinion but that’s where my my question/statement came from 🤷‍♂️", "Not surprising SNL has posted its lowest ratings in show history this season after watching this. This isn’t slightly funny", "No worries, I get not liking particular skits. \nFor me, it's the jersey shore parody. :/", "Lowest ratings in the show’s history this season so you are on point", "Careful you’re not allowed to have that opinion in here! 🤣", "Lounette???", "The only reason you are getting downvoted is because you have abused the living hell out of the shrug emoji.", "Hey for what it’s worth I appreciate you being civil. Some of the people in here you’d think I was saying something bad about their mother with my initial reaction to it lol", "Oh probably 🤣 I tend to use it a lot because people will fight you to death on here over a harmless opinion.", ">Also didn’t realize that you guys would be that touchy about my opinion.\n\nYou asked if it was just you or if this was universal. You have your answer now: it's just you.", "¯\\\\\\_(ツ)_/¯ \nFeels weird being thanked for common courtesy. \nI'm Canadian, if that explains it.", "Some of the comments suggest it’s not just me. Same with their ratings which have gone down. \n\nThe down votes suggest that you and some others are personally offended by suggestion that they might be washed up. \n\nIdk I don’t think it’s that serious but go off 🤷‍♂️🤣", "I agree with the sentiment and abortion deserves exposure in a positive non-degrading light but pretending like SNL is a political platform is asinine and arrogant/elitist. \n\nnot so much this skit but the other political ones.", "Yeah well there’s a lot of Americans in here and civil conversation is not their strong point some times lol", "I understand the point they were going for but something about the delivery made it look like the woman playing a clown was suffering long term trauma from her abortion which undermined the pro choice message and made it hard to watch.", "Are you seriously acting like this shit went over people's heads? It just wasn't funny and it wasn't meant to be funny. This is social commentary and political propaganda where they struggled to try to turn it into a skit because it's supposed to be a comedy show. The only real joke here is that they are being self-aware making fun of the idea that they have to try to be entertaining when they clearly just want to preach at you.", "> The down votes suggest\n\nOr, the downvotes suggest it's not universal. Downvotes don't mean someone is offended. It sounds like you're working really hard to be a victim here.", "I think it mostly has to do with people just not watching traditional tv media as much", "If she's suffering from trauma it's not from the abortion, but of how people judge those who have abortions.", "Look man if you want to argue with me like this buy me dinner first. I don’t agree with you and you’ll get over it and it’ll be okay ❤️", "Yeah that’s probably some of it. In fact now that I think about it most I don’t have cable and neither does any of my family or friends. Does snl air on like Netflix or Hulu?", "Are you saying you didn't hear what she said using \"clowns\" and note that she got away with more than anyone saying \"women\" would? Then as I back-substited women in my head it made it more effective. Laugh out loud? No. More like awkward Office Michael Scott moment. I mean, if you don't see or appreciate the history of commentary on SNL, then maybe stick to more digestible comedy. Big Bang Theory reruns are probably a safe space you can enjoy, and if this is all too left for you, I hear Greg Gutfeld has a show that is hiLaRiOuS.", "It’s sad that you can’t see abortion as anything other than a political issue. Shows your part of the crowd that would push over dead bodies to hear a two bit rapper.", "I didn't say it was only a political issue, but it IS a political issue. You can't honestly deny that.", "> social commentary and political propaganda\n\npeople from multiple backgrounds competing in writers rooms which end up presenting views I don't like in their works is literally propaganda.", "Even if it is from the abortion, sometimes people have to make difficult decisions that end up being the best decisions. It’s okay for her to still feel however she feels about it and to spread that message to other clowns who may have had a similar experience. That says nothing about whether or not these choices should be allowed.", "> Are you saying you didn't hear what she said using \"clowns\" and note that she got away with more than anyone saying \"women\" would?\n\nI wasn't saying that. It has nothing to do with my point. But if you are making that into a point I would have to say that she absolutely could have just said women the whole time instead of clowns and gotten away with it. No one would go, \"Hey that's inappropriate to talk about women having abortions but clowns having abortions would have been okay.\" I mean, it really doesn't even make sense anyway.\n\n> Then as I back-substited women in my head it made it more effective.\n\nYou really didn't know what was happening with that from the beginning and had to substitute women for clowns retroactively? Come on.\n\n> I mean, if you don't see or appreciate the history of commentary on SNL, then maybe stick to more digestible comedy.\n\nI don't mind commentary. I don't even care what way it leans either. My issue is that it wasn't funny. To expand on that more, I also have an issue with how lazy and dismissive it was. They act like their viewpoint is so correct that it's silly they have to still argue about it as if they're going crazy from how obviously right they are but it's really not that simple. Abortion is a very complicated topic and both sides have valid points. So I dislike that it was so unfunny but also that they are using manipulation tactics (trying to socially pressure people into agreeing with their viewpoint by making people who don't agree seem crazy or stupid rather than fairly addressing or defeating opposing arguments).", "Propaganda is (just picking the first googled definition so I'm not cherry picking): \n\n\"Information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view.\"\n\nI honestly don't think there could have been a more fitting definition for what this was.", "_everything that I don't like is political propaganda_\n\npropaganda has to be deliberate, otherwise you're just pointing to a dissenting / contradictory voice and claiming subterfuge.\n\nit's okay to say \"I don't agree with what these writers thought would work on air\"\n\nit's _not_ okay to say \"I think these writers are pushing propaganda\" without evidence of a plot / methodology\n\nthe former is an opinion. the latter is a conspiracy.", "I find it absolutely silly that your argument is now based on having to prove their intent while you have repeatedly and continue to ascribe a made up motivation for what my issue with this is and where I am coming from. You couldn't have formed a more bad faith position for yourself and there isn't even any basis for your definition that it has to be intentional for it to be propaganda. And all of this to try to win a semantical argument about it being or not being literal propaganda when the issue I take with it has been made clear even removed from that.", "dude, _propaganda_ is deliberate. I'm sorry, but it is. unless we come up with another term to describe weaponized intelligence, the intent is what defines the word.\n\nyour issue changed from \"this isn't funny\", to sneaking in \"this is propaganda\". I'm calling out your usage of the word, as someone who works in intelligence.\n\n_again_, unless you can point to organized intent, it's _not_ propaganda.", "Well I disagree.", "totally fair. =)", "Wow, I thought SNL didn't have any balls, though weekend update has always been the space for the most edgy jokes on SNL. Still nice job! Now just make the rest of the show funny and I might actually watch again.", "Yes actually. It's the original Canadian actor.\n\nEdit: Whoops. Nevermind. Lunette was on 22 minutes.\nhttps://youtu.be/nG6KKnc1lKs", "https://youtu.be/nG6KKnc1lKs\n\nShe actually did a skit for 22 minutes. Having grown up with the Big Comfy Couch; the skit is extra hilarious. Seeing a childhood icon in such a dark skit is fucking hilarious.", "Dude, Cecily strong is a lot better than they give her credit for. Her hard times Oliver twist sketch is amazing and blue something dogfood with Seth Rogan. Or...\"he only sucked one, once. One time!\" With Seth Rogan...also hilarious imo", "lol “I’m not taking a side, now excuse me while I take a side”", "I've gotta check these out. I've only seen the 22 minutes segment.", "Mirror?", "Always a better sketch when Keenan Thompson stays out. He does the same voice and same character every sketch for year after year. We get it. Wide eyes looking shocked ath the camera with the “are you seeing this shit” grin", "It's the Centrist way.", "Yeah that was like the whole point! She was basically like “oh DO I sound cRaZy?! Well here’s fucking WHY”", "No, that's SNL's Weekend Update.", "I am pro choice and I agree. It seemed like she was going to say I can't believe I got that abortion after every joke set up. Poorly done but that is SNL for you...", "SNL has always been very hit or miss. There’s usually at least one winner every show, alongside a lot of duds. That’s just the nature of a sketch comedy show put together in a week.", "She literally said she wouldn't have this opportunity if she didn't get it...", "Yes, and?", "Well, it seems pretty clear that she's implying that without the abortion, she never would have had the opportunity to be on the show, which is clearly a great life-changing event. You seem to either be deliberately or ignorantly missing the point of the whole skit", "I agree and I a happy for the opportunity she got. O really do it's great and I support her fully. The execution of this skit made it seem like she was crazy and losing her mind because she had an abortion especially if you know how the other side thinks.", "She pretty clearly expresses that she feels like she’s going crazy because of the pressured nature society has on suppressing real conversations amongst women about a subject that has implications for them all. The contrast of being a clown was to show that this was one of the only socially acceptable forms to even discuss abortion because most Americans are unwilling to have a serious conversation about it so it needs to be presented this way", "I appreciate you articulating your point", "Take a moment to look up how and when it became a political issue. It basically was fabricated because you couldn’t run on racism anymore. Just because people are susceptible to manipulation doesn’t mean it’s a genuine political issue. Just greedy people sowing divides because they lack actual ideas or solutions to our real challenges. We need to trash these losers and not let the, manipulate our communities. We’re cool. Peace out.", "You believe that people have been okay with abortion only until recently when they were manipulated to suddenly be against it?", "I’m busy reading Reddit so I can’t dig it up now ;). But I’ve read in several places that the issue was indeed fabricated and ginned up to manipulate and work up the Christian Right to bolster a failing southern strategy for (I think republicans) in the sixties. If you find something that suggests that’s not true I’ll go dig up the sources.", "Maybe we're talking about different things. I do believe that it was a bigger and smaller campaign issue in different periods of time but it has always been a political thing. People have always disagreed on this topic to varying degrees and for different reasons. In fact pretty much everywhere it's still restricted despite roe v wade. Roe v wade made it legal in the sense that it is decriminalized at the federal level to have one but it allows for states to still restrict abortions with their own legislations, nearly all of which have legal legislation that limit things like how late you can have an abortion. \n\nThe vast majority of people dislike abortions and would prefer that people don't have them if they can reasonably avoid it but it's more an argument about safety, mother's rights, and liberty so many of those people are okay with it being legal despite their distaste for it. That's why it's so complicated because it's such a morally grey issue that also deals with a lot of unanswerable questions like what the role of government even is.", "So in summary, you didn't think this was funny because it was about abortion. You could have just wrote that and saved us all some time. Everything else you wrote here is bullshit.", "No, I didn't think it was funny because it wasn't funny. It's pretty simple.", "https://www.hbomax.com/series/urn:hbo:series:GXdRsewUPO5uAuwEAABEI", "You're a child.", "No, I am a clown. GET IT????", "Honestly you're kind of a weird person.", "Now that you deleted the other posts and it's just us, what's your angle on abortion that makes it so complicated? Were you adopted? Born-again? Just want those clowns to get what they deserve for dressing so slutty?\n\n(Rhetorical. I don't really care.)" ]	72	videos	Weekend Update: Goober the Clown on Abortion - SNL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjpWlBwHwek	/r/videos/comments/qow70j/the_lost_wild_official_prealpha_teaser_trailer/	[ "This is the type of game the Jurassic Park IP should have used! First person surivavl horror.", "I got stressed watching that.", "Kinda looks like The Forest", "surivavl hobrbr", "My thought too. Such an anxiety-inducing game.", "Why doesn't your T-Rex have its [feathers](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/87/Tyrannosaurus_rex_mmartyniuk.png)?", "> Pre-Alpha Teaser Trailer \n\nAh so this is basically a concept made in unreal engine.", "hwarrglarbleror", "[This](https://www.reddit.com/r/gifs/comments/4pki6z/incredible_truck_vs_pole_crash_test_wait_for_it/), but more dinosaurs", "All I can think is how incredibly scripted these scenes are and how horrible it will likely look on full release.", "Other people have conflated this video with The Forest.\n\nAll I can say is, I agree. Did I have fun playing the forest with some friends? Yes. But that game has to be one of the least polished buggy games I've ever played. Half of the game was getting things to work correctly or dying to stupid shit.", "Jurassic Park: Trespasser did this over 20 years ago.", "Because it isn't a T-Rex and the T-Rex didn't have feathers.", "I get serious: \"Quicktime + QTE\" only vibes from this.", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uh02zvHHPzw", "No Man's Sky for the first two years.", "Oh boy, this comment is so confidently incorrect", "How so? The only skin impressions of T-rex show it as having scaley skin. Sure, there are Tyrannosaurids that have feathered bodys like Yutyrannus, but nothing that would indicate T-Rex did. At least to my understanding.", "We have no evidence of T-Rex having feathers. We have close relatives that show evidence of feather or proto-feather coverings, but to date there are no specimens of Tyrannosaurus Rex with feathers.\n\nTo quote you:\n\n> Oh boy, this comment is so confidently incorrect", "We're not your investors, don't try to scam us. I'm not giving you $", "Upvoted for factual information.", "https://i.redd.it/qk807y1jclx71.jpg" ]	23	videos	THE LOST WILD Official Pre-Alpha Teaser Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muZbNjnr-qI	/r/videos/comments/qowk95/axl_rose_pauses_the_show_so_fans_at_the_front/	[ "Today Reddit has shown me that literally every other musician on earth actually cares for their fans except Travis Scott.", "Here is the linked timestamp https://youtu.be/muZbNjnr-qI?t=382\n\nclip starts at around 6:30 into the video", "Pearl Jam kept rocking at the Rokslide festival in 2000 while 9 people were crushed to death, they didn't try to start calming people down until the *venue staff did their job and shut their performance down* but yeah go ahead and follow the call of the Reddit Dog Whistles.\n\nFun fact: Eddie Vedder later noted that the next song on their list was their hit “Alive”, and they started singing it even after those nine people lost their lives.", "I'm so confused, what happened that everyone is sharing \"x band did this cool thing to protect the crowd\" videos?", "thank you, I’d prefer being crushed to death vs having to watch 47 minutes gnr songs lol", "8 people died Friday night when a stampede erupted at a concert, and white America is losing their minds because it was a black artist with a majority white fanbase. Black Americans have no interest in defending him either because he's involved with/has children with a white woman. It's good old fashioned American racism at work on both sides, but it will be denied like always. Hail of downvotes incoming.", "https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/07/us/houston-astroworld-festival-sunday/index.html", "Oh! I read about this, but had just chalked it up to Houston doing Houston things (I live in Houston). I didn't think people would lose their minds over this.", "Right, people are acting as if this isn't exactly what went down to a lesser degree every other year the festival has happened. Allowing the festival to run at full capacity after quarantine conditions was completely reckless on the part of the venue in the first place, but adding the nuance of the psychological aspect of people seeking to \"go all out\" after nearly 2 years of isolation was a recipe for disaster. \n\nBlaming the guy whose brand has been to orchestrate complete chaos instead of the parent who bought tickets to this madness for their 10 year old is short-sighted and ignorant. \"All-ages\" is a very loosely applied term, we don't really do well when it comes to exercising our freedumbs IRL. It's *always* someone else's fault, we are litigious by nature.", "This is the same guy who has caused a riot at a show.\n\n[https://youtu.be/J3RIKOrarI8](https://youtu.be/J3RIKOrarI8)", "No, this is just people cherry picking other incidents and leaving out all the similar ones. And of course ignoring sporting events where it happens a lot more. Even some of the artists people have listed have done stuff just as bad as Travis (example Guns and Roses )", "> Black Americans have no interest in defending him either because he's involved with/has children with a white woman.\n\nuh...\n\n> It's good old fashioned American racism at work on both sides\n\nand apparently the critical side too!", "Could you explain how criticism of Travis Scott is a dog whistle. Genuinely confused here.", "Don't be daft and misquote me. The full quote, for context, was:\n\n>\tIt's good old fashioned American racism at work on both sides, *but it will be denied like always.\n\nAnd here you are :)", "Reddit loves dogs, therefore everything is a dog whistle. . . I think", "Do you think insisting on your absurdly racist statement somehow makes you less racist?", "womP womP womP\n\nDo you think I give a shit about your opinion?", "When the same thing happens at the concerts of white artists nobody is advocating for sending the artists to prison, nobody is calling the fans animals, trashy, monkeys, apes, etc. I have seen absolutely abhorrent language all over Reddit the past couple of days. \n\n\"And this piece of shit is still singing use your influence with these mindless creatures and tell them to chill out and back the fuck up. Instead of encouraging them to rush the stage. Fuckin braids so tight cutting off the circulation to his brain. Fuckin chode\"\n\nLike....what?", "> Do you think I give a shit about your opinion?\n\nthat's why you're commenting", "I respond to everyone who cares enough to interact with comments I put out of my own volition. Lol, nice try attempting to weaponize my common courtesy.", "Courteousness is consideration for your fellow, and thus virtually by definition entails caring about their opinion. However, I don't think anybody who reads...\n\n> womP womP womP\n\n...believes that this is you being courteous.", "Lol I'm being courteous by not ignoring you, it doesn't mean I have to show respect to a racist.\n\nTell me more, tell me more", "> it doesn't mean I have to show respect to a racist.\n\nthat explains your self-loathing\n\n> Tell me more, tell me more\n\nDo I look like John Travolta?", "Lmao this is the most lame game of \"no u\" ever", "Not John Travolta then. Maybe Olivia Newton-John?", "yawn\n\nCopypasta for you from here on out, YA BASIC \n\n(☞ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)☞", "implying it wasn't before", "\n ⠀⠀⠀⠀⣀⣤\n ⠀⠀⠀⠀⣿⠿⣶\n ⠀⠀⠀⠀⣿⣿⣀\n ⠀⠀⠀⣶⣶⣿⠿⠛⣶\n ⠤⣀⠛⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣭⣿⣤\n ⠒⠀⠀⠀⠉⣿⣿⣿⣿⠀⠀⠉⣀\n ⠀⠤⣤⣤⣀⣿⣿⣿⣿⣀⠀⠀⣿\n ⠀⠀⠛⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣭⣶⠉\n ⠀⠀⠀⠤⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿\n ⠀⠀⠀⣭⣿⣿⣿⠀⣿⣿⣿\n ⠀⠀⠀⣉⣿⣿⠿⠀⠿⣿⣿\n ⠀⠀⠀⠀⣿⣿⠀⠀⠀⣿⣿⣤\n ⠀⠀⠀⣀⣿⣿⠀⠀⠀⣿⣿⣿\n ⠀⠀⠀⣿⣿⣿⠀⠀⠀⣿⣿⣿\n ⠀⠀⠀⣿⣿⠛⠀⠀⠀⠉⣿⣿\n ⠀⠀⠀⠉⣿⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠛⣿\n ⠀⠀⠀⠀⣿⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣿⣿\n ⠀⠀⠀⠀⣛⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠛⠿⠿⠿\n ⠀⠀⠀⠛⠛", "\"courtesy\"", "> YA BASIC\n\n\"courtesy\"", "(☞ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)☞", "(☞ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)☞", "I am more than willing to accept that the response has been disproportionate due to racism, I just don't think that this would be considered \"dog whistling.\"", "Ah yes, \"monkey\" \"ape\" and \"animal\" definitely aren't dog whistles /s\n\nC'mon. Be honest with yourself.", "Dog whistles are usually coded language to disguise the racist meaning. Those terms are explicitly racist.", "Touché; I guess I'm most irritated by how that pedantic point of contention is often used as a basis for complete dismissal of the obvious historical context of the matter, diverting the conversation towards diction instead.\n\nEdit: lol just look at how this is being downvoted. These are the people that are walking around us every day. Disgusting.", "Pedantry is in the eye of the beholder, I suppose. Not trying to fuck with you--just confused by the use of the term in this context.", "Under name checks out", "It's a great way to trigger the not so bright people into making that comment. Score!", ">\tPedantry is in the eye of the beholder, I suppose. \n\nLanguage has historically been a powerful tool used to justify the unjustifiable throughout the ages, specifically for this reason. Why acknowledge real issues when you can nitpick about whether \"monkey\" is a dog whistle or explicitly racist instead? Lmfao. \n\nIt's incredibly disingenuous, and a major impedance to progress. \n\n>\tNot trying to fuck with you\n\nI believe that you truly believe that to be true.", "The real hero here. Hahaha.", "Alright, I guess you are free to misuse terms all you want and anyone who challenges you on that is racist.", "LOL. I mean, I never once called you a racist. I thought you were a stickler for explicit expression? Quote me calling you a racist.", "Aren't we just wasting time nitpicking now?", "No, you're literally just making shit up. That's not nitpicking lol, that's just you putting words in my mouth that were never there. You want so badly for me to be wrong that you will create a narrative based in fantasy to make yourself a victim. It's hilarious.", "You are wrong. You admitted you are wrong and misused the term. The lesson on the hegemonic nature of language is just windiw dressing for your wounded ego.", "Just because they aren't dog whistles and they are explicitly racist, doesn't mean everything I said is wrong. Lol. I'm done here, you know I'm right and that is the only reason you feel the need to be so petty.", "Now you are putting words in my mouth. Lol.\n\nHave fun with the intellectual narcissism.", "(☞ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)☞", "lmao my first thought as well", "You ok?", "You special?", "Yes" ]	55	videos	Axl Rose pauses the show so fans at the front don't get crushed and tells everyone to take a step back. (6:25)
https://youtu.be/eI7x__yMyTA	/r/videos/comments/qowoqk/shia_labeouf_kristen_stewart_are_weird/	[ "Hands literally do everything, though.", "[Acting](https://youtu.be/AGGEymAXD7s)", "\"I'm deeply unsatisfied in life...\" \n\\- \"Sure.....take a pottery class about it\"", "Which is which?", "Yes", "What's the fuss, average chat with workmates in our canteen at work.", "😂", "This is how the interview went. The video wasn't cut or anything! Real time footage people!", "Link for original interview?", "https://lmgtfy.app/?q=kristen+stewart+shia+labeouf+actors+on+actors", "[Found it](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDUIZqXNk-M)", "I think the reason I like these chopped up interviews so much is because it reminds me of Oblivion dialogue", "It reminds me of bad lip reading.", "I actually love how crazy [No No No](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IXCK1EyP4s) is.", "Just show how much I under appreciated these actors", "Killing it.", "This has gotta be a Vic Berger video lmao", "Drugs are a helluva drug", "I hate brenda.", "I like the ones about Joe Rogan lol they're always nutty.\n\nFor those who don't understand, this is not real. It's chopped up excerpts.", "Kirsten Stewart is weird. Shia LeBeouf is an asshole.", "\"The finger gun.\"\n\n-Kristen is shocked-\n\n-Continue chatting-\n\n-Full 15 seconds later-\n\n\"Guns are heavy.\"\n\n> She brought it back", "[\"Deeply Dissatisfied\" explanation.](https://youtu.be/GDUIZqXNk-M?t=1355)", "It's like watching unedited Kanye West", "I know this is all cut up to make them weirder but they were definitely on some strong edibles or some shit to begin with.", "It's the child abuse", "You must know them on a personal level then", "They both have such a disdain for the work that got them to where they are at. Understandable, but still interesting to see the parallels.", "I have never met Stewart. I have met LaBeouf. He’s an asshole. I didn’t need to have met him to know that, given that he’s a domestic abuser with a very public rage problem.", "This sums up great tinder conversations", "Weird is hot.", "With just a dash of schizophrenia." ]	33	videos	Shia LaBeouf & Kristen Stewart Are Weird.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EBe6qJXiC0	/r/videos/comments/qowqe4/unorthodox_bowling_styles/	[ "The same idea, but for disc golf:\n\nhttps://youtu.be/Yep4wygguIE", "I love that it doesn't matter how you bowl as long as you get a strike you can be a pro.", "I really will watch anything.", "2 hand through the legs or gtfo", "I mean, that’s true of literally any sport.", "That’s an illegal release", "Most of them are just unique arm swings or wrist motions, but Matt Jones just looks like he freaking trips, fumbles and somehow just gets a strike. It doesn't even look like a technique let alone something you could consistently repeat.", " ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)", "well this was oddly enjoyable", "Haha, thought the same thing. I just sat there and tried to come up with a reason why bowling is the worst sport to watch.", "I want to see a shot of his throw from the front... in slow motion... to try and work out what the fuck is going on there.\n\n2 handed style is pretty common these days but that is something wild", "Fascinating styles, but it really gets my goat when they walk into other people's Lanes after release. Super rude." ]	12	videos	Unorthodox Bowling Styles
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qows4c/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qows4c/deleted_by_user/	[ "Is that surprising in this genre?", "Yeah, it is. This has not to do with the genre and everything to do with the artist.", "Is anybody actually surprised he's a bit of a dick? No...? Me neither", "Nope.", "Nope", "Not at all", "wheres the auto tune, i dont understand what hes saying", "Big man ordering others to beat up a little kid who grabbed his shoe in the middle of a mosh. \n\n\nFuck this prick.", "What a numpty.", "Imagine going to see your favourite rapper and he turns the whole crowd on you for something as stupid as that", "And personally assaults him and spits on him. Cool guy.", "What a dick. I heard the new Travis Scott meal at McDonalds is pancakes.", "Lol dude come on.", "Which genre exactly are you referring to?", "kinda yeah. I've been to a bunch of rap shows and even some with pretty intense mosh pits. The only time I've ever heard of anything even close to the artist inciting fans against other fans was when Run the jewels told the crowd to eject someone if they were sexually assaulting other members of the audience.", "Trash person", "Imagine copy pasting a 6 year old youtube comment into reddit to get internet points.", "Seems like a good way to get sued", "Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't we stop segregating music by race a while ago. Is buddy that out of touch or is it the kids who are wrong?", "Black is not a genre. Look at you, automatically bringing up race when I even mention bad behavior. Almost Freudian", "'Hey Mr. Scott, your shoe fell off when you jumped into the crowd so I picked it up and would like to give it back.'\n\nSteal my shoe?! Fuck him up!", "Squash for dinner" ]	22	videos	[deleted by user]
https://youtu.be/9ciomPP8MyE?t=94	/r/videos/comments/qowv76/new_zealand_safety_commercials_have_no_chill/	[ "That's pure nightmare fuel for any kid that sees that stuff.", "That guy falling getting out of the shower must be loaded as that bathroom is bigger than most peoples entire house…….", "That could be a Final Destination trailer.", "God I loved this when it was on TV.\n\nThis one along side the drinking ad where the guy throws the kid into the wall.", "I remember that! Found it on YouTube. This brings back some childhood memories! \nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y91xgcTROsU", "These [anti-speeding](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2rFTbvwteo) and [anti-drink driving](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtWirGxV7Q8) ads were the pinacle of NZ saftey ads IMO", "Lmao holy shit.", "The best anti drink driving ad ever made", "I'm considering not taking stairs ever again.", "Can confirm. Was kid, saw this stuff, sure as hell made sure to pick up my toys and keep my distance from the coffee table.", "The narrator sounds like he wants to make an app", "Before building codes stairs used to kill a ridiculous amount of people. Especially those squished servants stairs.", "I’ve stayed the hell away from fruity-bars.", "I'd kill for those type of stairs, I've got a tight spiral staircase of death in my place. Going down them wearing socks is playing russian roulette. I've lost a couple of times and let me tell you, it fucking hurts.", "As a kid I laughed my ass off", "My favourites were the old drink driving ads\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hDOAsa3Bf4", "[Like this?](https://j.gifs.com/r8zkJ2.gif)", "That's the one", "The newer ads have gone for a more humorous approach: https://youtu.be/hOO7ehnWm-s", "Canada had workplace safety ads with absolutely zero chill as well:\n\nhttps://youtu.be/kOk2Akqb3CI" ]	20	videos	New Zealand safety commercials have no chill
https://youtu.be/O4LWjLorokE	/r/videos/comments/qowxxk/dyno_run_judd_v10_lemans_racing_engine_in_a/	[ "[JUDD V10 racing engine](https://juddpower.com/our-engines/judd-gv-4-litre-v10/)\n\n\n[5th Gen Supra](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Supra)", "Beautiful. What an insane car!", "That guy really knew that car inside and out! Seemed like he would launch and do every run exactly the same, like he really had a feel for it.\n\nI envy those people. I am an absolute retard when it comes to manual trans.", "Its using a sequential race transmission, you see him pulling or pushing on that stick to his right, thats the gear selector. Pull back is upshift and push forward is downshift. You only need the clutch for getting away in first gear (race starts, pit stops) and its no lift shift from there. Also, its really not meant for non-racing applications." ]	3	videos	Dyno run JUDD V10 Lemans racing engine in a Toyota Supra. Ryan Tuerck
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qox6uq/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qox6uq/deleted_by_user/	[ "Who owns Gettr? \nIf its FB, or Twitter, then he'll no. You won't have freedom of speech.", "Yeah….. no..", "Gettr (stylized GETTR) is a social media platform targeted to American conservatives. It was founded by Jason Miller, a former Donald Trump aide and spokesman, and launched officially on July 4, 2021.", ">and launched officially on July 4, 2021.\n\n\\*and hacked officially on July 4, 2021.", "Does it come with pig scrotum emojis?", "Getter is a dj, this is dog shit" ]	6	videos	[deleted by user]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIUp1pQ4tEs	/r/videos/comments/qoxec1/green_day_stopping_shows_with_banter_and_care/	[ "He has seriously LEAPED off the stage onto someone who was harassing a young girl. Truly a kind, yet badass dude.", "Can we fucking stop with these. \n\nWhat joy do you get from this OP? Likes and karma?", "If it bothers you so much, don't comment or watch.", "Happens almost every time a post here does well, even if it involves the death of teenagers. Gotta get that karma.", "It’s pathetic and honestly a little sad. \n\nPeople take hours out of their day to find a video similar to something that is “trending” to get imaginary karma…" ]	5	videos	Green Day stopping shows with banter and care since the 90s
https://youtu.be/psx50_Ejel4	/r/videos/comments/qoxhe8/this_old_man_knows_how_to_make_an_amazing_bowl_of/	[ "What is the pink/white swirly item he puts in at the end of the first bowl?", "What’s the spiral looking slice he adds on top?", "Narutomaki. It's a fish cake.", "Narutomaki. It's a fish cake.", "Fish cake", "A narutomaki looks like", "So this YouTubers strategy is to find people working hard, record it and monetise it with no additional compensation to the person actually making the content? Maybe I'm being overly critical..", "I don't know why, but I found the Supreme stickers so...out of place? on his stall", "He cooked the fuck outta that egg", "ASMR for sleep right here", "Agreed. What was that about?", "Girugamesh!!", "Yeah, it's hard boiled. Guess you can't soft boil it tho since he's just storing them for a long time which could be unsanitary.", "I love all the sounds of the pots and the water when he is cooking. His hands always moving. It reminds me of the furnace spider guy from spirited away", "He probably has no idea what they are and just think they look nice.", "Yeah, it's interesting because it's a hand cart selling ramen, but after that, just a really basic bowl of ramen, no need to upsell it.", "and gaming!", "Hardboiled yolk that dissolves in the broth is delicious", "That Ramen looks plain AF TBH", "This video is a blatant ripoff of this video posted one year ago\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqCz5u4U9M4", "Up until they start talking to him while slurping loudly next to the mic", "It's rude not to slurp ramen.", "Narutomaki. It's a fish cake.", "That old man also has a second turntable cart when he does DJ busking." ]	24	videos	This Old Man knows how to make an amazing bowl of Ramen.
https://youtu.be/6szvfVifSPE	/r/videos/comments/qoy7kc/i_just_got_reverse_trickortreated/	[ "[I gave their group a lot more candy, but this is what they returned.](https://imgur.com/a/jkQNblW)", "Lol I wonder if he thought they would taste like real fish or something, he should have tried em", "hello.. I mean, trick or treat", "They returned the SWEDISH FISH\n\nKids these days...", "This is next level candy trading. Go right back to the source.", "For real! Jokes on them. Cuz now I got midnight snacks." ]	6	videos	I just got reverse trick-or-treated!
https://youtu.be/ggf2AtO70jI	/r/videos/comments/qoyteq/all_these_great_performers_taking_care_of_their/	[ "I was at this show, and it was a few months or maybe a year after Axl actually did incite a riot that killed somone in St. Louis. Clearly he didn't learn his lesson (or maybe he was lower key than he would have been?).\n\nSlash came out and calmed the crowd, talked reason, and we all went home halfway through the show.", "I think they need to be more safety measures at these events from here out.", "Weighing in at 850 pounds….", "Fuck axl . I can't believe anyone would pay money to see that prick", "Brian May opened for them, which is why I went. But otherwise I agree.", "And a year before that they started a riot in Montreal.", "It's funny that we now simultaneously have a \"look at how great Axl Rose handles a crowd\" and a \"look at that piece of shit Axl Rose riling up a crowd\" clip on the frontpage." ]	7	videos	All these great performers taking care of their crowds... Here's Slash being cool after Axl Rose does his best to incite a riot. (6:50 for Duff being hit with a bottle on stage, around 8:30 for Rose and Slash's responses)
https://youtu.be/of3O8VO6KjE	/r/videos/comments/qozy46/freaky_mum_blows_up_the_internet_with_incredible/	[ "I am 1:18 closer to death now.", "I like your voice mum.", "I like your voice mum." ]	3	videos	Freaky Mum "BLOWS UP" the Internet with Incredible Singing Skills!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPQSVUjeHfw	/r/videos/comments/qp17i0/travis_scott_falling_off_stage/	[ "Who did he sue for this?", "/r/perfectlycutautotune", "Fuck that guy" ]	3	videos	Travis Scott Falling off Stage
https://youtu.be/mK4cnVm7Z5Y	/r/videos/comments/qp1pj8/photo_wall_setup_with_projector/	[ "awesome I love it.", "I don't... quite get it. You are putting up posters on the wall? I may be missing something here.", "That’s it. Trying to decide where and what art to put on a wall can be frustrating. While I spent days rendering samples in SketchUp, it just didn’t give the same effect as seeing it in real life. I thought a projector might have helped design and place images in real life so my wife and I could really agree on a final design. The projected image also helped make final measurement and placement of the frames easier.", "Thanks!", "OK!" ]	6	videos	Photo wall setup with projector
https://youtube.com/watch?v=KMi2UUyRit0	/r/videos/comments/qp1u5n/a_comedian_doing_a_joel_osteen_impersonation_goes/	[ "thats was good , best christian prank.", "Great performance. And ugh, those guys at the end- people with power trips are so limited.", "Thank you I love you God bless", "The real Osteen would never be out among the commoners like this.", "This. Was awesome!", "What ended up happening? Did they actually go to jail?", "[Here’s](https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/7buiis/hi_im_michael_klimkowski_the_fake_joel_osteen_who/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) an AMA he did, looks like he wasn’t charged.", "Good find, thanks!", "None of the people following were cops, I would have simply walked away. What are they going to do outside? Attack you in front of a crowd when you have cameras, not likely.", "How good is my life that I don't know who Joel Osteen is?", "Pretty good.", "Fortunately, despite the heavy Christian influence in my early life none of my relatives got duped by the guy. I didn't know about him until the early days of YouTube with farting preacher videos. Unfortunately the videos I saw in 2007 don't seem to exist anymore, but [here's something similar](https://youtu.be/4CSsuh1xqXI).", "I'll always watch this when its posted but it gives me second hand anxiety.", "Lmao they actually do that to a character in Ocean’s 13. He’s a douchebag and so the heist crew donate his $72,000,000 cut of the money they stole to a children’s charity, and then they set up an Oprah interview about his donation just to fuck with him\n\nedit: [here’s a clip of it](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UKAi_Zpp0_E)", "“Y’all got a cocktail bar? You got any beer? Joel wants a beer”\n\n“I’m so happy to see y’all out here buying my book”\n\n“I’m looking for a beer, all they got is sodas”\n\n“I’m 6’3” and Jesus was only 5’5”, look at these long arms”\n\nSo many great little character assassinations lmao", "Lol dude said \"you tried to breach the stage\" like it's a fucking allied base on the western front. You work for a shitty snake oil salesman, get over yourself.", "Not sure what they'd charge him for. He didn't break in or anything. They just let him in.", "\"I can't hear the voice of God over the voice of the poors.\"", "Before clicking the video I honestly thought that Joel Osteen was the actor from the sixth sense [Haley Joel Osment](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haley_Joel_Osment)", "I just don't get why people give money to these televangelists. Should be illegal. It's such a transparent scam and they have been falling for it for generations. These scammers are the antithesis of Godly works.\n\nPeople suck.", "Joel forgave him. And then bought him a ferrari. A used one, mind you.", "Yeah, and the level of intimidation from those goons is ridiculous.", "\"Everybody's going to jail,\" as if they had that power, lol.", "Haha! Child actors usually turn out pretty fucked up as adults, but not Joel Osteen level fucked up!", "But listen to how fake Joel reacted. It worked.", "Good Christian goons cursing up a storm lol", "True Detective summed it up nicely:\n\n>”these people would rather throw a coin in the wishing well than buy dinner”", "\"1, 2 ,3 amen\"", "What does \"lets take them to the city\" mean?", "Police legit murder people on camera so yeah, these rentacops with a god complex could very well beat the shit out of you.", "He impersonated someone to gain access to a private event.\n\nI think it's funny as fuck and teledouches are the worst but he DID say he was Joel. Although he didn't have any fake credentials", "\"Breaching the stage\"", "In my younger days, my friend and I would just pop on a high-vis vest and walk into various sporting events and venues. \n\nIt's remarkable how easy it is to get past security with a vest and a little confidence.", "Lol, I did too.", ">he DID say he was Joel.\n\nYou sure?", "HJO is all grown up now. He was pretty good in Silicon Valley and Future Man.", "Trump would quite literally be closer to the antichrist than an actual Christian and most of them voted for him also.", "You don’t need to break in to be trespassing. If your front door is unlocked and I just walk into your house, it’s not like you can’t do anything because I didn’t break in.", "> I'm wildly successful because God wants me to be. God wants me to be, because I used to give everything I had.\n\nThis is their biggest lie. Most of them have never given anything, and never would, because they think that only stupid people give their money away.", "I mean at least near the beginning with the security guard while extending his hand to shake the guards hand he said \"Joel Ostein\" which is pretty universal for identifying yourself as that person. Obviously you can play the technicality game and say he didn't say \"I am\", but I mean lets be honest here. That's the only time in the video where he was that close. The rest of the time he says things like \"thanks for coming\" and thanked people for buying the book and their time etc.", "Yeah, you would really hope all police are more professional. However, you legally have to identify yourself to the police when requested, can't just say \"whoops, we're leaving now!\" While we know the intentions were just to troll, security/police don't know that.", "It's exactly this, but the comment section is just ignoring this reality because they like what he did.\n\nJust go and sit on a stranger's front porch if you want to see how trespassing works.", "A clipboard and a surly gait will get you places.", "Trust me that true Bible believing Christians don't follow Joel Osteen and know he's a fraud. My church and pastor is very much against him, Steven Furtick, Joyce Meyer, and all the other fake, prosperity gospel preachers.", "Blast from the past, farting preacher. Thank you so much for jogging my memory!", "Security ≠ police", "But he was allowed allowed to go where he did. He didn't pick any locks or crawl through windows. He walked in open doors and everyone welcomed him.", "whattup Strider", "The audio was certainly police.", "Allowed at the moment does not equal legal.", "What? \n\nHe was let into places by people who presumably had authority to allow him. He didn't sneak into some highly sensitive secured facility. If you come to my house and I let you in you're not trespassing. If I ask you to leave and you refuse to, you might be. But this guy left when asked.", "He was let in by deceiving them into believing he was someone he’s not. If I show up to your house and you let me in because I lied to you and told you I was the police and was wearing a police uniform or was wearing an electric company uniform and said I needed to check your electric meter or something, I would most definitely be trespassing.", "1. That's not how trespassing works. Doesn't matter what it was, you can get trespassed from a farmer's field.\n2. If you let me into your house because I'm impersonating someone you would welcome in, you'd completely have issue finding out I wasn't who I said I was and have legal recourse.", "Hope his dank-ass fiancé bailed him out.", "Impersonating a police officer is a crime. Impersonating a utility worker isn't a crime. That's a bad example.", "100p - picked him up with some dank ass ipa’s sitting in a yeti cooler", "Fine then I’ll show up dressed up as your fucking wife wearing her face as a mask. That’s not the point. The point is being let in under false pretenses isn’t the same as being invited in. It’s not some loophole in the law that if you are able to fool people you are immune from trespassing.", "That's an outsized response if I've ever seen one. You scared or just angry?", ">I just don't get why people give money to these televangelists\n\nMostly just good old religious indoctrination. If you believe in the bible literally, you would know that direct communication to god is quite possible and was at one point routine. Why would you question this predatory fuckstick?\n\nHint: This is by design of the book.", "> That's not how trespassing works. Doesn't matter what it was, you can get trespassed from a farmer's field.\n\nSure, if you are uninvited. But if the farmer is opening his field up to the public(like a church) then that's not trespassing.", "Thinking of what I would say to a judge if I was his lawyer... \nI guess the difference is he asked several security people if he could proceed and they said yes. \nIts also a bit unfair to expect someone to actively say to strangers \"I am not some other random guy\" in every single interaction in his daily life. \n \nThe one at the beginning was a bit borderline though \"Do i still have to pay for parking even though im the one doing this event?\"", "Certainly? Why?", "I like this video. He just went in to see how far they'd let him in. He wasn't harassing people, wasn't there to interrupt the performance and wasn't harming anyone. On the other hand, what a wasted opportunity to just start preaching to people that it's all a scam and people should stop giving money to him.", "\"True bible believing Christians\" \n\nHahahahahaha. There is no difference between them scamming millions and you being scammed by your false denomination but scale. The hubris to think you are any better because you get fleeced by a local scumbag. Hahahahaha.", "Wow. I don't know if this is really meta or if it's just a joke that got out of hand.\n\nAlso, Joel Osteen is a fraud and a grifter, as is anyone who pushes this whole \"prosperity gospel\" BS.", "Bro ur getting the needle it's already prepped", "We don't know what he said when the cameras were off.", "Strider!!!", " “no more pictures thank you amen” XD", "No one splitting the atom here Marty.\n\nMy fav quote: If the only thing keeping a person decent is the expectation of divine reward, then brother that person is a piece of shit.", "Yeah, but you actually have recourse against rent-a-cops.", "You must be fun", "To add to your point, he also went to an arena which is a public area.", "You're comparing private property to an Arena that opens itself up to the Public and has to take on responsbilties for such, like Public Libability Insurance and the Security that Joel Impersonator blasts right past.", "Cause a lot of Americans are dumb as fck", "Tell his security to eat a dick. When the cops get here, we’ll be arrested, JO’s security personnel can maybe “detain” people but not arrest.", "If you invite me into your house and I come in you think I’m trespassing?", "Of course it’s a social construct. Without laws and enforcement, it’s not a crime.", "You gotta plant that 1000 dollar seed.", "Closer, but nah. The Antichrist rises out of Israel, and is universally loved. The US is not involved at all with any of the prophecy, other than being part of the world. The major players are all in and around the Middle East, where the story originated. Almost like it’s completely made up bullshit.", "You don’t really have recourse to getting murdered.", "I'm just reminded of Matthew McConaughey lol", "Police get special immunities in certain cases, security guards do not. They are not police, they are there to report crime not stop it. Plus realistically they'd have to drag you back onto the property for anything to really be valid, they were leaving of their own accord. You can't really breach an empty stage anyways... dude clearly hadn't even arrived at that point otherwise they'd never let a \"fake\" through so easily like that.", "As a Christian, this assessment is spot on, lol.", "/r/im14andthisisdeep", "> None of the people following were cops, I would have simply walked away.\n\nSeriously. They put hands on you it's false imprisonment, there are very limited situations where non LEO can restrain someone.", "> You don’t need to break in to be trespassing.\n\nTrespassing is very clearly defined. While you're correct you don't have to break anything someone entering your unlocked house is trespassing because it's is not open to the public.\n\nThis is a ticketed event from the looks of it, but still likely a venue usually open to the public. He's also likely meeting the bar for an invitation (example, asking the attendant if he can park). \n\nHe's likely not trespassing.", "lol \"everybody's going to jail\". You are church security my man, tone it down a few notches", "I always thought it was Joel \"Olsteen\" with the L", "He's like the old devil who's been on earth for a while an knows how to appease people and quietly (relatively) collect money. Compared to the other very aggressive scam preachers who are cash-hungry and are all about threats and fear to try and entice people into planting those seeds(cash) of God...directly into their bank accounts.", "https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/no-true-scotsman", "\"Everybody's going to jail right now\" \n\nXD yeah right. That made me laugh. They have video evidence of them just letting him in. That's on the event for not vetting properly. Dumbasses", "It's not meant to be deep, religion is a scam, and the fact that you can identify that in every religion but your own is an example of the great delusion people put themselves through rather than face reality. It's why politicians can destroy the planet while enriching themselves, it's why scientology can seem silly while you believe a magic invisible man in the sky, and it's why you can eat shit", "Yes we do. They'll actually get hit with criminal charges, so not only do we have recourse, we have deterrent.", "> because they think that only stupid people give their money away.\n\nthey aint wrong", "Tell me this isn't true.", "Book em in the city jail.", "Praise be.", "Why would that be a criminal offense? I don't think he ever said he was Joel Osteen, just Joel...and he didn't harm anybody, people let him in willingly.\n\nBtw: wtf! I'm always amazed by what's going on in the US. Those kind of mega church thingies? blows my mind. I'd totally lock the REAL dude behind bars for fraud.", "You really are 14 huh. You are currently in the \"le atheist\" phase. Next you go through the \"nihilism\" phase, and after that the spiritual phase.", "lmfao these \"no true scotsmen\" arguments are hilarious.", ">However, you legally have to identify yourself to the police when requested\n\nrofl no you dont.\n\nunless the police suspect you of committing a crime, which they must be able to clearly articulate to you, you dont have to show ID.\n\ncare to name the crime committed in this video?", "\"im going to try to prove my assertion by saying you cant disprove it\"", "in order to be \"trespassing\" you need to have been \"trespassed\" meaning someone has ordered you off the property.\n\nyou need to be notified, and given the opportunity to leave", "Non-preachers like Warren Buffet and Bill Gates probably would disagree.", "Check out this guy’s other video: [Joel Osteen’s Day Off](https://youtu.be/8mFsbfuNrzQ). Freaking hillarious", "Nope, just don't like ignorant holier than thou Christians that think they are better than people that are exactly like them. listen kid, I am sure calling atheists immature makes sense to someone who has an imaginary friend tell them they will live forever. Makes sense in your head, but it is actually sad and pathetic. Enjoy eternity asshole", "tube full of demons intensifies", "So did he really go to jail for that? If so, that really sucks.", "In(security)", "I think it's probably better for Christians to say:\n\n*\"Yeah we suck sometimes. Suck bad.\"* \n\nIt isn't heretical, and it shows honesty.", "Most big events have not only police, but off duty officers working as rent a cops, but who still have full police power and protection.", "I don't know who told you that, but off duty police don't have the same power and protection... They're off duty.... They have more than a security guard for sure, but it's not full.", "He was impersonating someone though that would be the issue", "strider! stoked to see this here", "jabwow", "what up fellow stoker", "they knew he wasn't the real deal cause he was too polite and not a massive dickhead.", "That might have some credence if he didn’t show up with his hair made up like Joel Osteen, dressed like Joel Osteen, with an entourage to look like Joel Osteen, imitating Joel Osteen’s voice, at a Joel Osteen event, and made it very clear that his purpose there was to pretend to be Joel Osteen. There is absolutely zero doubt his intentions were to fool people into thinking he was Joel Osteen. That’s not the same as some random normal looking guy asking if he can come in and they say yes. It’s possible that him asking if he could come in under those circumstances could be fraud since he specifically asked with the intention and likely outcome to be to deceive. \n\nJust for the record, I think it was funny and don’t think he did anything wrong worthy any kind of crime or punishment. I’m just saying that if security told him to leave because he was trespassing, they wouldn’t be wrong and if they wanted to press charges, they probably could.", "Im not a Jesus people. I just found it funny how you had such an immature and entitled response, to some people using religion to help them traverse through life, because, i dont know, life is hard for some people sometimes? The whole \"just face reality and stop believing in delusions\" just screams 15 year old tumblr user. Do you reject every delusional thought you have? You dont lie to yourself at all, in any way? Doubtful. If it helps some people, and lets them be happier and be a better person, why should they reject that? Should they just walk around being depressed instead, because Diamond-Fist told them they are \"sheeple\" or whatever on reddit? And im sure religion is the reason why China and India and the USA are destroying the planet lol. And i do agree that there are garbage christians or muslims etc, just like there are garbage atheists and agnostics. I dont think you are immature because you are an atheist, i think you are immature because of your words.", "They'd suspect him of trespassing, identity theft, fraud, whatever in this case. He'd have to identify himself or it'd be a crime.\n\nDef seemed like security guards though, at the end. Just keep walking and if they put hands on you, that's on them.", "No. You tricked me into thinking I should invite you in. That’s different.", "I think the point is that the person murdered doesn't have recourse because, yah know, they're dead. Society putting the murderer in jail doesn't do much when you're not alive to see it happen.", "See how your comment has a whole lot of “we” and mine has “you?”", ">unless the police suspect you of committing a crime, which they must be able to clearly articulate to you, you dont have to show ID.\n\nJust FYI, this depends on the state you live in. In many states, police can just ask to see your ID at any time and you have to comply or potentially face charges. It's bullshit but it's better to know which kind of state you live in before you try applying this in real life.", "> He'd have to identify himself or it'd be a crime.\n\nNOPE AGAIN, its only a crime to refuse to identify after you have been arrested.", "I mean, their presentation is certainly lacking but their overall point is pretty much true. There's a bit more nuance to religion than \"haha idiot sheeps\" - however, it's hard to argue that people don't overlook massive gaps in logic and basic understanding of reality when it comes to religion. My father teaches calculus 4 at college, yet he believes people like Noah lived to be 800 years old because \"people lived longer back then.\" I can show him sources that prove they didn't, but he won't see or acknowledge them. If it were any other subject besides religion, it would be considered delusional thinking and a symptom of psychosis but as a society we give it a pass because it's a group delusion.\n\nThat said, there are aspects of religion that are certainly beneficial. I don't think humans were really meant to grapple with their own mortality and religion helps rationalize that. Personally, I get a lot of anxiety thinking about my eventual death and I honestly wish I could be religious to have that weight lifted from my shoulders. I just don't have that kind of faith and I don't judge others that do.", "Why did he leave then? Security had no right to kick him out? It’s a ticketed event that requires a ticket to be there. If you don’t have a ticket, you don’t belong. Just because some gate attendant didn’t do their job doesn’t change that. Even if he didn’t trick anyone into letting him in and they just forgot to check for a ticket, he could still be asked to show his ticket at anytime and if he can’t, he’s trespassing.", "Nope, more than half of states have a stop and identify law, meaning you must identify if an officer suspects a crime.", "> In many states, police can just ask to see your ID at any time and you have to comply or potentially face charges. \n\nsuch as? which states are these?\n\ncorrect me if im wrong, but the supreme court stated that the police must have \"reasonable articulable suspicion\" that you have committed a crime in order to detain you.\n\nthe variance is when you have to show ID after this criteria has been satisfied.\n\nunless the police can give you a clear explanation of why they are stopping you, you can just walk away at any time.\n\nif they can articulate a reasonable suspicion that you have committed a crime, some states allow them to demand ID at this point, refusal of which is a crime, others require an arrest before refusal to ID becomes a criminal offense.", "Reminds me of hannibal buress skit where hes a fake lawyer \"look at my suit\" 😂 \n\nFelt like similar energy\n\nhttps://youtu.be/155_EYRGyO8", "Uh no. By that logic, I can break down your door and go in your home when you’re not there and I’m not trespassing because you’re not there to order me off the property and I’m still not trespassing until you give me time to leave. If someone comes into my house, I have the right to kill them. I don’t need to ask them to leave and wait for them to.", "wrong again lmao\n\nstop and identify laws require the police to have \"RAS\" - reasonable articulable suspicion that a crime has taken place, at which point they are allowed to detain you, and identify you.\n\nthe supreme court has agreed that providing ones name verbally satisfies this requirement.\n\nrefusal to ID only becomes a crime after you have been arrested for another crime.\n\n>However, some \"stop and identify\" statutes that are unclear about how people must identify themselves violate suspects' due process right through the void for vagueness doctrine. For instance, in Kolender v. Lawson (1983), the Court invalidated a California law requiring \"credible and reliable\" identification as overly vague.\\[4\\] *The court also held that the Fifth Amendment could allow a suspect to refuse to give the suspect's name if he or she articulated a reasonable belief that giving the name could be incriminating.\\[5\\]* \n> \n>The Nevada \"stop-and-identify\" law at issue in Hiibel allows police officers to detain any person encountered under circumstances which reasonably indicate that \"the person has committed, is committing or is about to commit a crime\"; the person may be detained only to \"ascertain his identity and the suspicious circumstances surrounding his presence abroad\". In turn, the law requires that the officer have a reasonable and articulable suspicion of criminal involvement, and that the person detained \"identify himself\", *but the law does not compel the person to answer any other questions by the officer. The Nevada Supreme Court interpreted \"identify\" under the state's law to mean merely stating one's name.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nnone of these have been challenged in the SCOTUS, they are all still law.", "> Security had no right to kick him out?\n\nThey did... they didn't have a right to hold him in any way. \n\n> Just because some gate attendant didn’t do their job doesn’t change that. \n\nIt does, I described how. \n\n>he could still be asked to show his ticket at anytime and if he can’t, he’s trespassing.\n\nIf you leave when asked you're not trespassing.", "thats private property moron.\n\nthe same rules dont apply to public spaces", "Reread it and try again. Detained. Not arrested. Must give name. Officer can detain and demand name if suspicious of crime.", "This is not public property. This is private property holding a private event closed off to the public. That’s the opposite of public property.", "and the suspect is only obligated to provide their name, verbally, if they feel that by giving their name it wont violate their 5th amendment rights.\n\nthe bottom line is that it is only a crime to refuse* to provide your identity AFTER you have been arrested for ANOTHER CRIME.", "You posit that religion helps people and makes them a better person... you are already overlooking countless atrocities and endless suffering caused by these churches. You see ignorance and spout it. So you make no sense.", "Detained. Officer suspects a crime, they detain you, and you must identify yourself. Not arrested for a previous crime ffs.", "You know, I must've misread when I looked this up a few years ago because it looks like you're right. There ARE states where police can stop you and demand identification, but only if they have reason to believe you're committing a crime.\n\nSo technically you're correct but I will still say that \"probable cause\" gets pretty tricky, especially after the fact. A cop can say \"I smelled weed\" or \"they resembled a crime suspect\" and it's up to you to try fighting that in court, and usually you'll lose because their word > yours. Still good to know though if you're pretty confident about standing your ground.", "They certainly didn't start out like that.", "How crazy would it be if the anti-christ rose out of North America, and all the people reading scripture 2000+ years ago were like, \"what the hell is an 'America'?\"", "It's literally the plot of Fletch Lives (1989).\n\nAlso, go look up Peter Popoff. He shows up with a new scam every 10 years of so. I think he must reappear if someone says his name 3 times in a mirror.", "Yes, because I think it's important to mention that as a society we have recourse against rent-a-cops and very little against police. The fact is that it's generally safe to ignore security guards, and prosecute if they escalate. A rent-a-cop risks their job and freedom assaulting you, while a cop does not.", "> and you must identify yourself\n\nand providing a name verbally satisfies that requirement.\n\nand again - IT IS *ONLY A CRIME TO REFUSE TO IDENTIFY YOURSELF IF YOU HAVE ALREADY BEEN ARRESTED. REFUSING TO IDENTIFY YOURSELF WHILE DETAINED IS NOT A CRIME, HOWEVER THEY CAN CONTINUE TO DETAIN YOU UNTIL YOU ARE IDENTIFIED.", "Tell that to the one that murdered my friend.", "They do be going deep", "Jail, but no charges. He'd have been released pretty soon after.", "It also very much matters what happened.. There was no actual crime here, if an off duty officer see's a crime they can respond as an officer. Which is very different from being hired off duty as concert security. Anything they pull there, unless people have weapons, etc will be under massive scrutiny. An off duty can't just shoot an innocent civilian and get away with it, that doesn't happen.", "“Do you know Bobby Schuller?”\n\n“Absolutely I do sir! What’s your name?”\n\n“Bobby Schuller”*", "> If you believe in the bible literally, you would know that direct communication to god is quite possible and was at one point routine. Why would you question this predatory fuckstick?\n\nBecause even Paul called these false teachers out. Nowhere does the Bible teach how to get rich like these scam artists do.\n\nProsperity Gospel has nothing to do with biblical Christianity.\n\nSource: Theologian for +10 years.", ">Because even Paul called these false teachers out.\n\nKent hovind calls out joel osteen is pretty much what you replied bro. Name the difference between them, cmon, we're waiting. At no point is the world of Paul better than any other conman my dude.", "I would argue that they don't give away their money either, they offer it up to people willing to show initiative and innovation.", "this isn't true.", "I envy you.", "When you’re desperate and someone promised you vast richness and personal healing people will jump at it", "Was the 'coordinator' JT from going deep?", "Listen, you need to understand that while this guy may sound like a stereotype out of /r/atheism from years ago, pointing that out doesn't get you anywhere in the argument. He's making solid points and instead of responding to those points, you're attacking his character. Any casual observer is going to interpret that as \"you're right and I hate that you're right\". Maybe that guy needs to grow up some, sure, but you have further to go than he does.", "Yes. He said Joel Osteen at the beginning.", "You can't get away on a technicality because of the way he acted after the fact and the recorded evidence that clearly shows he was impersonating him\n\nAnyway I found it funny as fuck and screw the real Joel Osteen and people like him. They're evil", "You can always ASK to press charges. It's unlikely any attorney responsible for deciding if the charges go forward would agree to do so in this case.\n\nThere's too high of a burden of proof for any reasonable wrongdoing. It's going to ultimately come down to the fact that he's exploiting the desire of Joel Osteen to reward or demand visual identification and special treatment from his staff.\n\nThis ultimately will heavily undermine any attempt to prosecute the comedian and reasonable security measures should include something like a visible badge to make it hard for an unauthorized person to do this. You can even have your access check in a secluded area near where you enter the property and if the Fake Joel doesn't go to that area to enter property you know you have a problem and a likely impersonator.", "All groups suck sometimes. It's also probably easier for them to live with the things that suck in their particular flavor of jesus koolaid (which as a christian it's wise to identify that we're all kinda koolaidy ) to say that bad things only exist in that other flavor so they don't need to think about it.\n\nIt's like trying to claim that no atheists are assholes. There very clearly are some that are total assholes, that doesn't inherently make atheists assholes. If you make a totally different group and assign the quality of being an asshole to that group, then it's a lot easier to ignore the asshole shit you might have done or even are actively doing right now.\n\nChristians are SUPER prone to this though. We literally have like a thousand flavors all based around being not that particular kind of asshole that they don't like. A lot of us REALLY don't like it pointed out and it's good to point out and they should accept it try to regulate being an asshole as much as possible instead of rolling around and screaming about how they're not as much of asshole as that guy over there.", "underrated \\^", "I literally laughed out loud at that.", "A skinny Mathew McConaughey should play him in a movie. Hopefully one about the extortion of Joel and the whole mega church mindset smh" ]	168	videos	A comedian doing a Joel Osteen impersonation goes to a large Joel Osteen event in LA. The audience thinks he’s Joel Osteen.
https://youtu.be/JPGH33iU0Dw	/r/videos/comments/qp1xx3/the_whitest_kids_u_know_super_size_me_with_whiskey/	[ "Sucks he died so recently", "One of my favs. Rip!", "Trying to suck his own dick. Tragic.", "RIP", "He didn't fall though, coroner said he asphyxiated on his own jizz.", "Link to the official channel, not this re-upload: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EIAN1YcEUI", "That coat-check girl has a name! \n\nFuckin lol, RIP Trevor." ]	7	videos	The Whitest Kids U Know - Super Size Me (with Whiskey!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xa-PP12lkEE	/r/videos/comments/qp246o/back_and_forth_forever/	[ "Me and you and everyone we know", "))<>((", "I'll never understand why people liked this movie", "It's time! Everyone, pair up!" ]	4	videos	Back and forth. Forever
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qp290v/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qp290v/deleted_by_user/	[ "What’s your thought on this?", "It’s a lot of fun and a game changer in amateur filming just like how portrait mode is fully accepted. It looks great for smartphone viewing and social media platforms. The technology itself is impressive to me in terms of 4K real-time object and person tracking and blurring/masking, also being able to change the focusing in post. All on a handheld device.", "I recently upgraded to the iPhone 13 pro max so I’ll have to fiddle with it. Any other tips you suggest pointing out let me know. Thanks for responding.", "You can actually use the edit tool to refocus or refine the focusing after you’ve filmed. The more practice the better you’ll get!", "Can you explain for a non apple user what I'm looking at here. Is this a video editing software or what? Seems to just be selective blurring.", "Correct it’s selective blurring in different amount based on depth. However this is all done real-time with the depth mapping, and can also be re-edited after. 100% software on the iPhone." ]	6	videos	[deleted by user]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAI8c0j6EW8	/r/videos/comments/qp29ck/40_shots_of_yager_00_do_not_try/	[ "Hey Luke? Your friends aren’t your friends. Friends don’t encourage friends to drink enough to kill themselves. Find new friends.", "That's just insanely dangerous and stupid and anyone encouraging a friend to do that is a dick", "Won’t even watch this stupid shit.", "\"Easy\" LOL.", "Jager", "So 39 is the max", "Shits watered down. You can’t see through Jager. Looks like tea." ]	7	videos	40 shots of Yager 0.0 [DO NOT TRY]
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qp2a4i/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qp2a4i/deleted_by_user/	[ "Impressive", "nice one .", "Hmm... so... are they adding this fake \"short depth of field\" in videos per default? Or can you turn it off? To me it looks kind of artificial", "I turned the effect to the max to show the effect, I highly recommend leaving it at default or toning it down just to add a little depth of field. Yes it looks artificial at times but on a normal use case it’s neat, not so different than portrait mode on virtually every single smartphone these days and people have stopped complaining that it looks fake compared to real DSLRs. This is only happening in Cinematic mode of video, it’s not on by default.", "fuck apple", "> people have stopped complaining that it looks fake compared to real DSLRs\n\nYeah, i hear what you're saying... but .... to me there's actually something concerning built into the very expression of \"people have stopped complaining\"....\n\nIt's a testimony that the market sort of controls our needs rather than the other way around. At least it feels that way.\n\nI'd compare it a little bit to the way mobile phones changed in size, going down then up again. When they were getting smaller in size, it was because people were tired of lugging around clunky stuff. The very idea of carrying something outside your pocket for instance, like in a specialized neck holder, would be a joke back then. Then, because of screen usage, we slowly started accepting this, and now people adapt their behaviours to not having to carry a phone in the pocket, in the case of a big phone . \n\nWell that was my late night rant", "I totally understand. While I’m a professional photographer and I’ve complained during the first days when portrait mode was introduced, I also fall into the crowd of “this tech is cool, imma use it cause I don’t want to carry my DSLR everywhere.” Heck I’ve even started making some vertical videos on purpose because I want to take up as much real estate on peoples screen who are mostly too lazy to rotate." ]	7	videos	[deleted by user]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIzhaHYSeRo	/r/videos/comments/qp2r4p/iron_maiden_stop_show_after_dangerous_barrier/	[ "It says it was rescheduled for next day not refunded.", "Kind of both. The promoters offered refunds to everyone who couldn't make the future show.", "Up the Irons \\m/", "The band not stopping lmao", "Enoughhh", "This is just the moment they spotted that there was a problem. \nThey cancelled the rest of this whole gig when the barrier couldn't get fixed, invited ticket holders to return later, or refunds to those who couldn't.", "People could potentially have been dying while the band kept playing and the lead singer was telling people to back up...", "That comment's a little stupider than I'm used to. \nNot really sure what to do with it.", "They also abuse the fuck out of their copyright. I'm still mad about Ion Maiden.", "fyi, the Travis Scott concert/festival thing was canceled as well.", "I assume they're referring to this\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ion\\_Fury#Lawsuit", "You are correct.\n\n[Fixed link.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ion_Fury#Lawsuit)", "Ion Fury \n \n [Lawsuit](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ion_Fury#Lawsuit) \n \n >In May 2019, it was announced that the band Iron Maiden would be suing 3D Realms for $2 million for \"[the] misappropriation and use of a virtually identical imitation of the Iron Maiden trademark\". 3D Realms quickly responded on Twitter, stating that these are \"frivolous claims anyone who has played Ion Maiden would find more over the top than Shelly's 'Loverboy', her signature 18-round triple-barreled revolver\". The lawsuit claims that Ion Maiden \"has the same look and feel\" to the Android/iOS game Iron Maiden: Legacy of the Beast previously released on July 5, 2016.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( \| )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( \| )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( \| )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove \| v1.5)", "Yeah but, Iron Maiden don't own the rights to actual iron maidens. \n\n\nIt'd be like Cream suing Cadbury Creme Eggs.", "it was called off like 40 minutes after the event was already being called a mass causality incident by emergency services.", "Yeah after 8 people died. A little too late", "^", "I'm aware of that. I just don't feel this is a great example of a band doing crowd control.", "Ohhh okay I got you" ]	21	videos	Iron Maiden stop show after dangerous barrier breach. Refund audience.
https://youtu.be/MCQyZhogaNg	/r/videos/comments/qp2sk8/with_all_the_videos_of_artists_stopping_their/	[ "He should have been on the cover of Punk and Disorderly", "JFC, we get it. Travis Scott is a dick. Do we really need more of these videos?", "I doubt anyone on this bandwagon even cares about the Travis Scott thing. Just karma whores" ]	3	videos	With all the videos of artists stopping their shows, here's Billie Joe Armstrong of Green Day jumping into the crowd to kick and stop a bully from harassing a kid.
https://youtu.be/89D39qBjFWs	/r/videos/comments/qp32yk/this_skit_is_24_years_old/	[ "I loved that show as a kid. The way it bled into skit after skit was great", "It's the oldest sketch there is!", "Fortunately HBO figured out the [streaming rights for Mr. Show](https://decider.com/2015/11/05/why-is-mr-show-a-no-show-on-hbo-go/), as previously it wasn't available on HBO Go but it is now available on HBO Max.\n\nAnd that's a big win for fans of low-budget, inventive, stream-of-consciousness sketch comedy!", "Fuggetaboutit!", "Jimmy Pesto stirring the sauce back there.", "Wow…a young David Cross!", "Is this… is this supposed to be funny?", "didn't get it cause 2 many words?", "2 many numbers", "No, that was 24 letters.", "Oh wow, Paul F Tompkins without a moe. So weird.", "What do you mean young? He was 24 then, he's 24 now!", "This post currently has 49 upvotes. Oh shit wait..!", "I went back to check. There’s no way Paul F Tompkins is there.\nDavid S Pumpkins, maybe.", "More innocent times, before he became a Trump nutter.", "people that are downvoting you are the kind of people that find SNL funny", "Since they are different shows I can't figure out what you mean by that, but Mr. Show has on many occasions brought people to the brink of laughter.", "haha, Italian goons amirite?", "I can't tell is that a younger Jim Carrey?", "What shows do you find funny?", "C-SPAN", "C-SPAN slaps hard", "Even if you don't find the show funny, \"Is this supposed to be funny?\" is the laziest, most stupid form of criticism. Like, no! Actually, it's not supposed to be funny! All of these professional comedians performing in short skits that go against logic in ways that could be deemed ironic or subversive set against actual sounds of laughter was never intended to have any comedic effect! It's like the other day when someone watched the movie The Conjuring and texted me \"Is this supposed to be scary?\" NO! It's actually intended to be a lighthearted family comedy! All of the loud, sudden noises and images juxtaposed by eerie silence and looming dread are supposed to put you at ease!\n\nReddit has been jumping over people for years for repeating direct quotes from videos with sarcastic, \"Yeah, I saw the video too\" posts, but even lazier comments like this have gotten a pass and even upvotes from people who also didn't enjoy the video. Go to hell. This rhetorical garbage is the worst! It is the lowest form of criticism and online commentary, and it's high time people acted like it.\n\nBut that's just me, though.", "I didn't laugh, but I get how an absurdist premise in a serious framework could be comedy.\n\nWhat I don't get is why they would cast David Cross as a character I'm not supposed to completely hate. This must have been before they figured out how he's supposed to be typecast.", "Harder than this, for sure.", "lmao “the laziest, most stupid form of criticism” sure got a big response out of you, didn’t it", "Yeah it’s a drag. I always liked seeing him pop up in various things over the years.", "Amazing how you trying to be funny was exactly what I thought you trying to be funny would be based on your original comment.", "lmao", "He was pretty good playing a dickhead cop on the Sarah Silverman Show. Sarah's sister deserved much better lol", "Oh God, preach", "The thumbnail could be Andrew Dice Clay getting frisky with Bill Hader after a particularly spicy set.", "Accurate response.", "That upvote number is suspicious... gotta downvote it down to a real number like 24", "Ann you stay the hell out of this and stir that sauce." ]	35	videos	This skit is 24 years old
https://youtu.be/El3eHo-oyrs	/r/videos/comments/qp3ixp/guy_incriminates_himself_in_front_of_his/	[ "Nobody got time for that", "You gotta timestamp dude", "Dude is a fucking moron, and his mom is too.", "I watched most of it. There is no comedy gold but it was interesting in parts. \n\nIf there is one lesson learned from this video, never get close family lawyers to defend you. The whole body language of his mother helped point where there might be discrepancies in his statement. She also started asking questions to her son not pertinent to the investigation. \n\nSummary: \n\nGuy has ex-GF with restraining order in his house with her dog. Dog is aggressive and bites him. GF and dog are in the bedroom with door closed. Dog is scraping at the door. 5 year old son is in other bedroom with door closed. \n\nGuy goes to other room and gets AK47 to shoot the dog. Tells his ex-GF to stop the dog (while door is closed) then proceeds to shoot through the door where the dog is. Ends up shooting ex-gf (injured, not critical afaik) \n\nClaims he was in imminent danger which is why he did it. Yet description does not seem like imminent danger. \n\nMother who is also lawyer tells him to shut up a few times. \n\nSome time stamps (based on top left):\n\nBeginning is just checking on his son, knowing when he will have a lawyer and photos of dog bites. \n\n- 23:19:47 - mom enters. No sound as lawyer meeting. \n- 23:39:38 - interrogation starts. \n- 23:42:21 - first explanation of what happened. \n- 23:47- approx. talks about guns. \n- 23:51 - mom starts asking questions unrelated. Shortly after this I just skip ahead as it’s the same thing over and over in different ways. \n- 00:33 - summary end of interrogation. \n- 00:37 - starts to possibly incriminate. \n- 00:38 - told to shut up a number of times by his mom. \n- 00:44 - mom talks\n- 00:50 - starts talking to an investigator without mom\n- 00:56 - bangs the table and mom moves to side. Thought it might be him getting violent but probably not the case. No sound as lawyer meeting.", "Son was almost 4, not 5.", "That’s what you took from all that?", "His mom is in conflict, recuse yourself, you moron!" ]	7	videos	Guy incriminates himself in front of his mom/lawyer (long one but absolute comedy gold)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYBrO6z0XEg	/r/videos/comments/qp3szy/let_me_check_my_resume/	[ "I actually laughed more at the \" what is it though? \" lol", "I discovered this guy tonight. He's hilarious. The one where he's smoking marijuana during an interview is too much. Or the one where he's eating or orders food at a drive-through.", "Great vid", "Apparently we're in the minority." ]	4	videos	Let me check my resume
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itn3M9LNBTA&ab_channel=Acery	/r/videos/comments/qp3t38/travis_scott_stops_a_performance_to_kick_an/	[ "Punishment for videographer on stage? That's a trampling.", "Class act… ion lawsuit. Weird how that works together for this guy.", "Prima donna bitch", "Why doent he pull his fcuking pants up. He looks like a fool. What is that look??? Like he just got punked in prison and he's on his way back to his cell. SMH. He's such an arrogant nouveau riche thug. That poor berated cameraman is doing him a favor and promoting his talentless, classless, recycled stereotypical rap 'act'. He needs to get original. ...IMO.", "Nice pants...", "\"I'm a artist.\"", "\"Artist\" is a bit of stretch", "Losing the pants battle", "I just took my phone of the charger and was buggin when it said “20% remaining”.", "\"But I'm a rapper\"", "Calling other people fool and writing like that.. rip braincells", "I liked when he called him a nerd. His grammar is a bit flat. I don’t particularly like the skinny jeans saggy pants look.", "Why are you talking like he can hear you? It's weird", "I’m an artist!", "All these concerts have to have insurance and it is really hard to get a rap concert going because of the high insurance rates. Too many shootings in the parking lot. This won't help his cause much after the lawsuit. \n\nI remember the Chicago tribune reported after Lollipalooza once that 100,000 people were there and not one incident. But you can have a rap concert with like 100 people and there will be a shooting.", "\"I'm an artist! An A R T I S T!\n\nYou hear me!? You're not even worthy to look at me, you POS commoner! I wouldn't even let you wipe my @ ss, that's how unworthy you are to be in my presence!\"", "What's the point of yelling into the mic while bitching at someone right next to you. Oh yeah, because you want your stupid fans to think you're a bad ass bully who puts nerds in their place. Nice job douchebag.", "It's crazy how many people reply on reddit like that. Idk how they don't get their internal voice asking \"wait, who am I talking to?\"", "By far the worst part of this is he purposely held the mic up while he was berating the guy and calling himself an artist. He needed everyone to hear it, so lame.", "Any man who must say \"I am an artist\", is no true artist.", "This is one toxic Reddit thread", "I think some of the downvotes are from people who think of it as downvoting Travis Scott and not OP. \n\n\nLike when people downvote r/unpopularopinion posts because they don't agree with the unpopular opinion.", "Didn't realise how much I wanted to see Travis Scott getting dressed down by Tywin Lannister.", "pretty soon i'll have all the sources I need to make my dream web database, whendidperformersstoptheirconcertsandwhypedia.org", "There. I fixed it for you. I can't repair your imaginative skills but I can rewrite the post so that the rhetorical perspective is a collective one. SMH.", "There. I fixed it for you too. I can't repair your imaginative skills either but I can rewrite the post so that the rhetorical perspective is a collective one. SMH.", "I agree with nobody on stage. Get that so called “artist” off stage too", "Lots of (rightful) anger towards this guy. Him and his fans are a plague.", "Wow, I have a lot less sympathy for people who died after beating up security to see this guy at this point. They got so caught up worshipping a someone for being a dickhead that karma came back to get them. And he loved it.", "A bit different, but you tried.", "He canceled a concert last minute in my city, and his fans rioted. Tore the place and the area up, looted, and even stabbed someone.\n\nTravis Scott and his fans are the absolute worst. I’m glad the greater public is finally aware of it.", "Remember when a TMZ reporter was yelling ASAP at him and he lost his shit? Lol", "I just posted it to join in the Travis Scott slander on the front page of r/videos lol", "No joke I would read that wiki just out of pure curiosity, I know a little bit of aws and WordPress, wanna team up and make it a reality?", "you rly trying to understand his behavior when his pants are falling off?", "The level of cognitive dissonance to say “get your nerdy ass off stage” immediately followed by “no disrespect”. Like does he even know what the word disrespect means? Because insulting someone is pretty much definitional disrespect. Probably just some phrase he mutters after all the clownish shit he does as if it somehow absolves him of responsibility.", "The same way the guy who makes my sandwich at subway is an “artist”, in that what he makes takes very little talent and the way he makes it is some formulaic shit prescribed to him by a large corporation.", "Most of the people that died were very young. Young people do dumb shit and they grow up. These kids won't have the opportunity to grow and learn from their experiences. Trashing Travis Scott is one thing, but blaming the young victims that went to a concert and died is fucked up", "Stop idolizing shitty narcissist rappers.", "I know I'm now old and still white because for the goddamn life of me I could not tell you a song Travis Scott has done but I guess he is popular.", "There's a song about that \nhttps://youtu.be/tMwhl4IrPNc?t=33", "I down voted becuase the video puases in the middle for low battery notification", "Haha yeah super clever! Fuck the people who just so happen to work at Subway!", "Kickin the cameraman off of my stages cuz I don’t like how he snapping my angles\n\nIt’s lit", "i mean justifiable and he didn't yell. but fuck him for last night.", "He wrote a bar about this \"Kickin' the cameraman off of my stage because I don't like the way he snappin' my angles\"", "What an absolute piece of shit. No idea who the fuck this guy is but I feel bad for the people that enjoy this sort of person.", "They didn’t say fuck the people who work at Subway. They just said they aren’t artists. Which contention do you disagree with:\n\n1. Making a sandwich takes little talent\n2. The method by which a sandwich is made is formulaic\n3. The formula is standardized and comes from a large corporation\n4. Subway is a large corporation\n\nNone of that says don’t respect the person that makes your sandwich as a human being.", "The difference being that Subway employees don't claim to be artists, it's their designation and not a claim", "Truly a paragon of society that everyone should be looking up to.", "What the fuck is going on at live concerts? I feel like we are in a Golden Age of What the Fuck", "Phish Fan dies in October: [https://nypost.com/2021/10/19/phish-fan-dies-after-falling-during-concert-at-chase-cnter-in-san-francisco/](https://nypost.com/2021/10/19/phish-fan-dies-after-falling-during-concert-at-chase-center-in-san-francisco/) \n\nTravis Scott kills 8, promises to perform again", "You mean Pre-Madonna?", "He means prima donna. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prima_donna", "I was on my desktop and confused for a sec.", "You mean Post-Madonna", "I think it’s because subway calls them sandwich artists officially.", "Imagine having some jackass with his pants hanging below his ass come up to you while you're doing your job and make you stop doing your job because he thinks your look isn't up to standard. \n\nImagine the fact that that same jackass is getting paid millions to lip sync and play with auto tune, while you, the photographer, are making a fraction of that to put your talent to good use and capture memories. \n\nWe screwed up somewhere along the line.", "Pull up your pants you fucking idiot.", "I am a wizened veteran of the internet. Without opening the link, is it \"Pants on the Ground. Pants on the ground. Lookin' like a fool with your pants on the ground\"?", "Don't forget this rapper is actually named Jacques Webster...", "He also referred to himself in the third-person. Like, WTF? Who does that?", "Oh cool. So he does know how to stop a show to deal with a situation.", "I see what you did there!", "Also haven’t checked and immediately know that’s what it is.", "He probably means, \"don't you disrespect me by trying to stay on this stage\" when he says \"no disrespect\", not that he means no disrespect.", "Lol oh that's why these concert videos have been gaining traction. Travis, what a weenie. I think he's being sued.", "Just go to the front page of /r/videos right now", "Now I see why he didn’t stop the show for medics. He is too wrapped up in himself to care about anyone else.", "So Travis CAN stop a show whenever he wants to…", "According to that he would be a primo uomo", "Dude is a mumble version of T Pain.\n\nAt least T pain produced his own music and lyrics while using autotune. Travis Scott just has Fortnite and shitty clothes that look like they were ripped from Pinterest.", "There was a time when some years back at the Rhode Island metro stop in DC had a lot of graffiti, all up and down the walls and stairs and repeatedly said “Pull your pants up, brother.”", "Travis Scott is such a weird stage name. Sounds like a country singer.", "[T-Pain is legit as fuck](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIjXUg1s5gc)", "Well, I done see T-pain got his name on a popular fo-\n\nT-bone steak", "This was like 5+ years ago I think", "Stop idolizing celebrities in general. The vast majority are stupid, uneducated, greedy, selfish, assholes. We live in a fucked up ass-backwards society where we treat people who sing shitty pop songs and throw balls around like kings, give them all the money, and get medical advice from them while treating the people curing diseases, saving lives, and solving the world’s problems like shit.", "Shitty people idolize a figure that represents them. It's a sociatal issue imo", "Right? We are praising the wrong people. And there are definitely plenty of awesome bands and musicians out there worthy of respect. But not many of them are rappers. Rappers glorify misogyny, narcissism, drug use, self indulgence, and plenty of other terrible things. And most modern rap is garbage and you can hardly tell what they are rapping about and if you could, it’d probably only make you dumber.", "He can stop a concert to berate a paid employee, but he can't stop one when there are people visibly unconscious/in medical distress and others are asking him to.", "Ya a \"nerd\" he pays to do a job to make him look \"good\" during his \"performance\".", "Very true. It’s why many Trump supporters are narcissistic themselves, and that they wish they could be like him. Many people glorify rappers for the same reason.", "i hope he loses all his endorsements", "He should change his name to Travis T.", "N", "What a fucking loser. Hopefully this dude's career ends now. He should never be able to perform love again in any case.", "> From this experience, the term prima donna has come into common usage in any field denoting someone who behaves in a demanding, often temperamental fashion, revealing an inflated view of themselves, their talent, and their importance.\n\nHe would be a primo uomo if we were using the opera term.", "So he's an idiot *and* a douchebag?", "What a hobo.", "Delete that comment dude, comparing Travis Scott to T-Pain as actual musicians is borderline libel", "Right attitude, wrong idea", "Let's maybe not leap to genre-based discrimination; doing so kinda helps reinforce the whole situation that causes it in the first place.", "Society is a mirror", "I hope this didn't F with the videographer's wellbeing... just sad.", "You sound 40 and lame. I can generalize and say nonsense too. All football fans are fat alcoholics who beat their wife and base their entire personality around fantasy football. You’re so brave taking the moral high road ya lame ass LOL", "You made a new account just to post this? Yikes", "not just unconscious, actually dead.", "dude's real name is \"Jacques Bermon Webster II\" no wonder he goes around calling everyone a nerd lol", "Everything I've seen of this man over the last couple of days is disgusting. I can't believe people actually pay good money to see this absolute scum", "Produces, not produced. T-Pain still does all that and sounds damn good doing so.", "An artist, he just sounds like he mumbles in autotune.", "Sex, drugs, and rock and roll right?", "Welp, can't help them if they're already dead.\n\n—Travis, probably.", "His fans sure do", "Between his last concert in Houston, homophobic slurs and just down right being a fucking asshole why isn’t this guy canceled? This dude sucks.", "The clue is \"people who annoy you\" mr.Marsh, you got 15 seconds.", ">Stop idolizing celebrities in general. \n\nExcept of course for Weird Al and Mark Hamill.", "Maybe if the genre weren't trash there wouldn't be a need to call it trash.", "\"There are some awesome bands and musicians out there, but I don't like a specific genre so obviously artists from that one suck\".\n\nLike take Eminem at the surface level his songs are everything you describe. In actuality he performed those songs as \"slim shady\" though, Slim Shady is basically his alter ego whose basically a complete psychopath, you're not really supposed to agree with Slim Shady's worldview and think he's a cool guy.\n\nFrom a psychology standpoint Slim Shady represents the id run wild. The id is the us without a conscience. If you want a dated 90s TV reference it's Angel vs. Angelus. Angel has an ego and superego (which function to keep the id in check), while Angelus is simply pure id. Marshall Mathers is a pretty normal dude, Slim Shady is the pure id.", "\"What do you do for work?\"\n\n\"I'm an artist.\"\n\n\"Not anymore, bitch\"", "Travis Shart the Moist Fart aka Jacques Berman Webster II", "Local barber shop near me has a \"no sagging\" sign, lol", "He's not \"camera friendly\". He has \"poor hygiene\". He tends to \"frighten children\". He can't \"wipe properly\". He doesn't \"own a toothbrush\". He's a \"bad person\".", "Yeah, nobody who talks/acts like the is anywhere near an artist", "Happy to report I had never heard of this POS until the whole stampede thing happened.", "\"artist\"", "Anyone else instinctively click the \"low battery\" popup?", "And he lives in a van….down by the river!", "\"Autotune didn't make T Pain famous, T Pain made autotune famous\"", "Bring Charles Dance to a TS show asap", "Them Apple Bottom jeans tho. Thats a whole ass snack.", "I really hope all of this is the end of his career. The world is a better place without him in the spotlight. We've seen a lot of videos of him not being a good person. At all.\n\nHe's got plenty of money to relax the rest of his life. Go chill on some beach and never let us see him again. Better still if he takes Kylie Jenner with him. \n\nThey can live a fabulous life. Just disappear from the public eye. The world will be a better place for it.", "What’s funny to me is he is 30 years old & the bubble of his fame allows him to stay at 18 years old because his fans are young", "The entire world hates todays shitty rap.\n\nThe music is garbage and only the dumbest people think it’s any good.", "Dude should have screamed: \"DID YOU JUST CALL ME THE N WORD!!??\"", "[Blackalicious- Alphabet Aerobics is dope](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8D5iyKXZcUQ) - this is trashy Autotuned shite.", "Care to reccomend some rappers who aren't narcissists? 90% of rap music I hear is just some variation of \"I had nothing now I'm rich, I like sexy women, I'm a big tough man\"", "I just say I carve stone. Feels too pretentious to use the word, besides, there are some damn fine sandwich artists out there.", "He’s a piece of shit & literally thinks he’s better than everyone else. It’s his world we’re just living in it.", "> Well~~, I~~ done", "And all the employees and security guards kicked the guy off. They're at fault too for following along with Travis Scotts actions.", "Whoever this person is they're a piece of shit.", "And Danny Devito. He's cool af", "What a fucking lame cunt. Sue his ass for all its worth. He deserves to be gutted and left a pauper", "What a dogshit human. He married into a dogshit family as well. Fuck all the Jenners and Kardashians and \"influencer culture\" and all the other vapid, materialistic bullshit these self centred cunts stand for.", "Yo so ill just say a bunch of redditors writing essays about \"class\" wont do shit. There's gonna be articles and posts for weeks about him, if we just start commenting travis scotts a bitch and that shows up everywhere thatll get him heated and actually fuck with his ego. Ill start", "Thanks for the link, that was really cool. I like how he jokes around about it too.", "Travis Scott's a bitch", "Too bad I can't go back to 2 days ago when I didn't know who this was.", "More like ”welp, they’re not me”", "bro i swear when it comes to hip hop artists all of reddit turns 65 years old", "Adding Tony Hawk to this list", "It's pretty well documented that misogyny, homophobia and violence are all too prevalent in hip hop. The same can't be said for many other genres. Yeah, there are great hip hop artists out there who are level headed and ethical...sadly, that is far from the norm. And, let's not normalize the term \"genre-based discrimination\". Songs aren't people. If you're concerned about discrimination, you'd probably do well to avoid hip hop, actually.", "Cher made Auto-Tune famous. T-Pain brought the effect into the R&B scene as the digital equivalent to a talk-box.", "*IMMA ARTIS", "I'm a cunt. I fixed that there for good ol T. Dog.", "😂 \n\n\n \njust kidding you racist cunt", "Reddit Moment", "That kid would have felt like shit until now. He would only have been on that stage with Travis’s okay. Travis waited to throw him off publicly. \n\nNow he understands that Travis isn’t a cool artist that saw him as trash—Travis himself is garbage.", "I was hoping this was the video. He can legit sing and he seems like a really nice guy from everything I've seen.", "Post Malone?", "The Phish thing ended up being a suicide, it emerged through the grapevine that the guy had been struggling leading up to the concert and was seen testing his leg on the rail several times throughout the show before he jumped. (This is total conjecture on my part, but it happened during a song that's something of a rarity for the band to play, and as a result is a fan favorite. I think he picked that one to go out on when he heard it start up.)\n\nThere was another guy that slipped and fell that night, but that honestly is probably due to the design of the Chase Arena. The railing truly is very low and the pitch of arenas built these days is getting steeper and steeper.", "Look man, you can call him a douchebag piece of shit, but you have to admit he's done a lot for the trap rap / \"autotune rap\" movement. His album Rodeo especially has become a trap rap staple, and is far far more than just your typical autotune rap bullshit", "/r/BoneAppleTea", "This guy seems like a real piece of shit Reddit.", "Then Run DMC and Public Enemy should be pretty popular.\n\nHonestly I am probably too old to enjoy anything from the last 10 years.", "Oh so he was ALWAYS a dickhead.", "Yeeaaahhhhhhh autotuned\n\n- also Travis", "The difference is that T-Pain used autotune because he liked the sound of it and what he could do to his music with it, not to cover up his terrible singing. The guy is actually a really good ssinger.", "\"no disrespect\" ? Too late for that lie, fuckwad.", "Why are his pants below his ass cheeks?", "And won’t amount to JACK SQUAT!", "The person who screen recorded this video is lazy and should’ve taken another take instead of uploading a video with a 20% warning alert from\nTheir iPhone.", "Dude I love his Twitch livestreams. It's such a chill time.", "Possible, but most likely not. Just a phrase he's mumbling without being aware that it contradicts what he previously said.", "👉", "don't disrespect T Pain like that", "those were the days. I still remember JacksFilms cover of this treasure", "Is unlikely IMO. He is the baby daddy of one of the richest women in the world. He has the funds to hire the best PR firms. This will be a non-issue for his career and endorsements.", "It’s just a fashion trend, don’t think too deeply about it", "Trying hard to sound like he doesn't have a nerdy name", "Hey man, when it comes to pants I dont see color.", "I kept reading comments and posts and thinking this was about the drummer from Blink 182 lol.", "Only the Sith deal in absolutes.", "Yep fuck wit", "He’s just a cunt really", "LMFAOOOOOOO", "Dont disrespect the manager at my subway who knows exactly how to make my sandwich, we got that shit dialed, she put the work in.", "In my experience, people preface something offensive or disrespectful with “no offense” or “no disrespect” almost all the time those phrases are used.", "[Basically this.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0-hDXMiR8U)", "Priorities.", "Thug with a bull horn.", "I like Kid Cudi. I recently discovered him because I'm old and kinda out of touch but I really liked his music. I'm a Nirvana fan and I came across a video of him visiting a Kurt Cobain memorial and I saw him wearing a green sweater like the one Kurt wore in his Unplugged show as a tribute. Figured a guy who was that big a Nirvana fan couldn't be all bad. Worth a listen.", "Dude the videographer looked like a kid. I mean, kid or not how awful.", "You're the one being racist you big genius", "I do excavations and I like to think of myself as a dirt artist", "he's an artist bro", "Usually not a fan of the old reddit circlejerks but this guy really is a cunt", "I never liked this dude, now I have a reason not to like him.", "Bad take. T pain can sing and is insanely talented, he was using autotune for fun and happened to blow up off it", "with that single action alone, he may have short-lived career, fame", "What a bitch-ass lol. Fuck t-scott", "I mean, isn’t there a rumor that Hamill and his family tried to force a woman to abort because the son of Hamill impregnated her but they didn’t want the kid?", "I bet he prides himself on never disrespecting anyone... because he says \"no disrespect\" to people while humiliating and undermining them.", "He stopped the whole concert for that... but not when people were dying in the crowd?\n\nStop idolising these people. They're trash.", "Who?", "Why do you have to idolize people just for being good and decent humans any more than any other good and decent person just because of their job? You can like them and respect them like you would anyone else, but why the need to worship them? It’s weird. They’re just people.", "Wrong", "No. You don’t know these people, stop creating parasocial relationships and idealizing people that you don’t know. They could be super nice and wholesome or pieces of shit in private. We don’t know.", "Interesting you mention Kid Cudi. Kid Cudi was Travis Scott's biggest inspiration.", "Throw this guy in prison.", "Just like when someone says \"not to be racist or anything\" they're generally about to say something that warrants a trip to the county jail.", "i'm gonna primo you're uomo \n\nuwu", "Also /r/publicfreakout", "Not to mention, photography is a form of art as well. Fuck this guy.", "Just off the top of my head: \n\nAesop rock, hopsin, Run the Jewels, Kendrick Lamar, Logic, MF doom (this one's a bit different from the others as he raps as if he's some kind of supervillain, also RIP)", "Immortal Technique, Aesop Rock.", "[His cover of Change Gonna Come always hits me deep down.](https://youtu.be/gsRYciU3Y2g) And this is coming from someone who never really considered his use of auto tune but it was truly surprising watching clips of his Masked Singer run (killed it with Stay With Me) not to mention his NPR sets.\n\nHe also streams a lot on Twitch and even released a free track pack for creators to use. He’s also gotten big into gaming (even played a Siege invitational for content creators and I think he just hosted the COD Vanguard reveal). All in all he seems like a real down to earth, hard working guy and I’m happy he was able to show his doubters how good a singer he is.", "A dude died at a Slipknot show in '19 in Chicago. I was there and had no clue anything happened. Found out about it the next day.", "Coward", "if you can't read between the lines of that initial comment i don't know how to help you", "„I‘m an artist“\n\nWell…", "There is some good rap and R&B out there. New stuff even. I know I stick to old school stuff pretty hardcore but I always check out the new rap of the month on Spotify to see if any new stuff is worth adding to my rotation.", "What about Dave Grohl?", "He’s known to have violent tendencies and showed up late to a show, and when they turned the lights off because it was time for everyone to go home, he started trashing the stage. Not the worst, but not great", "I’m confused if I should upvote or downvote this?", "> rumor", "Elmo does.", "You've confused Bennett Brauer with Matt Foley, but I'll allow it!", "A lot of people are famous for being famous and specifically that type of people are seriously high on their own fame and completely out of touch with reality.", "There's no lines to read between Poindexter", "Pull them pants up.", "I thought my battery was at 20%", "the pants have nothing to do with that. don't use this shit person to bring in your dog whistles. take that back to /r/conservative or some shit. \n\nI know PLENTY of people who sag who have really great hearts and are really great people. \n\nthis is about travis scott, and how HE'S a fucking asshole and a sociopath, not about how the only \"people who sag\" are stupid, because we all know that that's what you meant to say.", "Well, I say rumor because I don’t know if it’s true myself, but you can google it and many things show up, so is somewhat documented, and not a mouth to mouth rumor. \n\nAnyway, that’s kind of my point. We should not idolize, glorify or create parasocial relationships with famous people or celebrities since we don’t know anything about their private life or about them, we just know what they choose to show us.", "Please don't forget Charles Martinet, dude is a treasure", "Slander is a term used to describe false* statements attacking a person's reputation.", "Right? Everyone knows you have to start the sentence with the words \"Don't take this the wrong way but..\" before you insulting people. That way, if they do take it the wrong way it's their fault.", "This guys a fuckin’ clown.", "Keanu Reeves is so cool. Have you heard of his super sad story? Omg.\n\nHis girlfriend had a stillborn and then she died. \n\n Hnery Cavill so cool, he's a pc gsymer and build his own PC!!!! nobody does that!", "Clowns if you listen to this music", "That's not what got Phish banned from Red Rocks, lol. They got banned from Red Rocks because unfortunately a huge contingent of fans are assholes who just absolutely fucking trashed the area and caused trouble for the locals worse than any other fanbase. It's way too small of a venue for them these days anyway.", "That's not true.\n\nPhish was unofficially banned after fans and police fought in 1996.\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIOPpiXhldg\n\nAnd they started playing there again in 2009.\n\nhttps://www.denverpost.com/2009/07/29/phish-back-at-red-rocks-13-years-after-unofficial-ban/", "He would of had an agreement with the festival that only his reps were allowed on the stage and area, ive had other artists request the same.", "we need stricter safety rules and regulations for concerts. can't just keep relying on the good will of performers and venues to protect the crowds \n\nand we need to force free water readily available every couple hundred feet for large places like that", "“I’m an artist” - the art of being a jerk", "What a guy!", "It's so funny how quickly you guys all strayed from the point in an effort to make a 'reddit approved' list of celebrities to idolize.", "Now there’s a trio of snappy dressers, the Run DMC! Matching outfits, clean sneakers. You can tell they’re the right kind of gentlemen to hip hop to, friend.", "I will always have a place in my heart for Bryan Danielson too.", "Elvis would never do this.", "I love how he is getting cancelled. Shame that he has enough brain dead fans to somewhat continue.", "That’s how you know this ignorant fuck peaked in high school ( if his dumbass even graduated ) and was one of those who bullied the smart kids.", "Hey, you seem stupid and uninformed of anything other than your narrow world view. I'd like to get you in to my office and talk to you about some wonderful timeshare opportunities.", "Yeah that's... the joke. I hope lol.", "This aint' Dead People Jam, it's a Travis Scott show.", "Don't forget OJ Simpson.", "Man, I could see the air quotes :-D", "Well I guess that just makes you a better person than the rest of us. Damn.", "Ah brother, it's great to see another fellow internet veteran from the Before Days on here. I fear this platform is.. well it's in distress. Our population is dwindling and gold is scarce. We don't have much to give, so please take this upvote and have a rest in the comment section until you're ready to return to your adventure in r/all.", "I have not really enjoy anything but my daughter does. She calls anything i listen to old and I respond that at least it isn't all about sex and having the most money. :)\n\nEdit: I say it jokingly since her argument is kind of pointless. Honestly didn't think people would take it literally.", "pokemon", "Yes! Especially rappers who have lyrics full of hate and rage. I’m so disturbed by the way women are talked about in 90% of rap lyrics. It’s absolutely sick.", "Makes me sad hearing how some parts of the crowd appeared to find berating some random person doing their job amusing.", "My lord I wouldn't be able to come up with a nerdier name if I tried. Pierce Brittanica?", "What a great role model. I'm sure glad the kids these days all think this behavior is really cool. 🙄", "This cunt's a total fucking loser", "It'd be easier taking a photo of a unicorn", "Kendric Lamar def has very derogatory language about women. His lyrics are also depressing since they mainly talk about shooting, guns, and home invasions. I get that it is a little “deeper” than Travis Scott, but it still glorifies criminal culture, dehumanizing women, and perpetuates black male stereotypes.", "TITLE LOL", "Listen to his shitty fans cheer too. I’m sorry, but if you like this kinda stuff, you’re a piece of shit.", "This seems alot like damage control.", "N>!aggers!<", "Fuck this turd Ferguson", "it at least made some kind of sense when pants were too big and falling down.", "Yes I agree. That Paige Lorenzo girl is one of them too. Just sits on IG and gets plastic surgery at 22. Tries to disguise her voice as a foul mouthed stoner. It’s like WTF ?? Same with Kylie. They’re all the same people. It is scary such basic people with no soul would be idolized. Terrifying really.", "I just saw the video. Travis Scott is an absolute psychopath", "Dude, Phish fans are basically a nitrous oxide mafia. \n\nIt's kinda hilarious. If your fans are violent and drive the security guards AND the local cops completely out of the venue so they can sell hundreds of thousands of dollars of nitrous oxide to festival goers with impunity, you're probably not going to be invited back.", "\"im uh ardis\"\n\nStop giving these retards money.", "Seriously? It’s the same guy? And he was notified of the situation and asked to stop? Geezus. I guess that “BaDAsS” (aka douche bag) attitude is what appeals to some of his fans in the first place", "pants on the ground looking like a Fool with your pants on the ground. I dont want to see your underwear loser.", "That cameraman has more skills and knowledge than this asshole.", "but it looks stupid whatever the genre. There's plenty of rap artists that don't do that shit. \n\nIts just an extension of this fad among anti-intellectuals where trying to do something properly (like having clothes that fit) is perceived as nerdy and try hard so u jus haf ass evythn cus uvvrwize ya □. \nIn its most extreme form its mumble rap because being easily understood is so nerdy man.", "I don't get the downvotes, that's the way I heard it too. \nAnd it's not like it makes him look better. He's still a massive cunt for saying something like that and thinking a person working on stage is somehow disrespecting him?", "100% agree. How can these kind of people get such a large fanbase? They teach kids that drugs aren't cool with school programs, so why can't they teach the kids that this behavior is fucking degenerate.\n\nMaybe with the right education, the youth could be making fun of this kind of behavior...", "yes but also no. Society has elevated him into being a music star so I figure his peak is now.", "1. Damn. Wish I had seen this video ages ago. Would have made hating him even easier.\n2. What is the point of wearing pants if your whole underwear is out?", "Cancel this loser.", "Cross him with T.I. and he'd start to look like some kid's discarded Mr. Potato Head.", "Thats exactly what I'm saying tho..", "[Jean Grae](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fms7vFoc3UI), Gift of Gab, R.A The Rugged Man, Ocean Wisdom, A-F-R-O, Soul Position (blueprint).", "Videographer: You know, i'm something of an artist myself.", "What a great person..", "I don't think that idolizing celebrities is something that can be stopped. Or even should be. \n\nBut we kind of stopped looking up to people who actually are talented and switched to look up to people who don't have any remarkable skill at all.", "I'm starting to think this Travis Scott guy isn't the nicest of performers.", "This aged well.", "Fuck off!\n\nBoring!\n\nToo many facts ^facts ^^facts ^^^facts ^^^^facts ^^^^^facts ^^^^^^facts", "Jacques Webster sounds kinda cool too, like comic book villain name. Why use such a lame stage name?", "Ngl, I had no clue who he was until last week and assumed as such until I actually looked.", "Don't forget his sandwich at McDonald's. It was a quarter pounder with bacon.", "All I heard him sing so far is a slowmotion \"yeaaah yeh yeeaaaaaah yeaaaaaaaah\"", "This is a travis scoct show?\n\nso people gonna die?", "Also stop watching celebrity interview shows. The entertainment press exists only to do what the publicists ask them to do. \n\nE!, Jimmy Kimmel, Graham Norton, James Corden or Stephen Colbert will never ever do something to make a well connected publicist mad. On radio, you can't see it, but publicists often sit in the room with the guest. Tom Cruise will always be fawned over, even though he's the de facto leader of an abusive cult. Rappers will have their criminal history(and present) glossed over or used as a \"learning\" experience to tell a rags to riches story. And so on.", "Exactly this. Homophobia, misogyny, narcissism, violence, all very normal within the rap genre.", "I asked myself the same question. Looks hard to walk in honestly.", "Yeah pretty pathetic, above person sounds 40 and lame", "Yikes... what a douche bag...", "r/FuckTravisScott", "Sonds to me he tried to say \"don't disrespect me\" but interrupted himself", "I never said I didn’t like rap, just that many of the top artists aren’t putting out quality music and represent some pretty disgusting themes in their music. Em is cool tho", "I am an artist.. \n\n\"Yo get the auto tune ready ima yell into the mic for 10 mins\" \n\nHonestly if you have to use auto tune. Don't call yourself an artist. You can't even do the one basic thing all singers have too. Hold a fucking note and know what note you're singing lol. The basic of the basic and he can't do it.. and idiots worship these kinds of people. Worthless.", "My faves would be Atmosphere & Lupe Fiasco. Idk I don’t dive too deep in the genre but both artists are legit, good lyrics, very deep thinkers, and don’t have your typical rap themes within their music", "I only do it in my own kitchen but I've perfected a few sandwiches. I'm not saying I'm an artist but a few I've made could make people cry with their beauty.", "Up until this weekend, I never heard of this person, and in overhearing what happened in Houston on the news, I *thought* this was a country music concert.", "What a miserable cunt", "That’s the dumbest genre I think I’ve ever heard lol. Lost IQ just hearing the name. “Yo check out this trap rap house auto tune” no thanks", "Did he say something like \"Show some respect to the artist\"?\n\nRemember, kids and cops: Respect always goes both ways.", "This weekend I found out Travis Scott is a piece of shit and I no longer will support him or purchase anymore of his music.", "Mos Def\n\n https://youtu.be/Halb24Rpgn8", "The nitrous mafia are generally not phans, but rather are just traveling from show to show selling nitrous.\n\n[https://www.villagevoice.com/2021/07/22/inside-the-nitrous-mafia-an-east-coast-hippie-crack-ring/](https://www.villagevoice.com/2021/07/22/inside-the-nitrous-mafia-an-east-coast-hippie-crack-ring/)", "I as a rule of thumb don’t idolize artists. I simply enjoy their music.", "June 2015. \n\nhttps://youtu.be/vYicCZiqsn4", "The trashiest, the people make them rich and they develop a god complex. Then treat those people like shit and get their actions defended. It's pretty sad", "Having said that...", "Yeah exactly, misogyny is all too prevalent in rap along with narcissism and a general push for drug use. Props to the rappers going against the norm and getting deep with their lyrics, not just bitches money bling and drugs.", "He doesn’t say “no disrespect”\n\nHe says “don’t disrespect I’m an artist”\n\nMuch worse", "welp, seems like hes next on the chopping block after DaBaby lol.", "Why are his pants halfway down to his knees?", "\"Get your fucking nerdy ass off the stage, no disrespect\" ... what?", "Something really needs to be done about how this guy does concerts. He was already charged for inciting a riot and endangering the welfare of a minor once before because of his carelessness. I mean wtf all this for a blatant kid cudi and ye ripoff?", "The guy is literally a jr. high bully that didn't learn any lessons and change too much.", "Mental health issues.", "More people need to realize this. I fuckin hate how pieces of shit like this douchebag makes shitty music and we have enough dumbasses to listen amd make this guy famous.", "If you think Kendrick glorifies criminal culture you haven't listened to a \\single\\ word he has said. Everything you describe Kendrick as here, he's the complete opposite.", "I guess not many people have heard it used that way but I've heard it used in that same tone to mean like \"don't bullshit me, don't disrespect me by trying to argue and act like you're right, just accept my authority right now\". But yeah it doesn't honestly matter, Travis Scott is clearly a huge cunt.", "no wayy did her call him a nerd bro way tooooo far 😢😢 travis is such a meanie😤😤", ">\t MF DOOM […] as if he's some kind of supervillain, also RIP)\n\n\nAs if?\n\nWtf?\n\nHe wears a mask just to cover the raw flesh\n\nA rather ugly brother with flows that's gorgeous\n\n\nYou know what [I’ll just let Mos Def testify to MF DOOM’s evil supervillainy](https://youtu.be/zTBIvIDnnv8).", "Milhaus Poindexter", "meanwhile this fucking gem of a human walks around like he just got done riding bareback across the country because if he puts his legs together his pants will fall between his ankles", "You take this concept too literally. Slim Shady is an exaggeration of the man Marshall's darkside, it's a persona informed by himself. It's not a fictional character written by an author that he is acting as in a play. Not exactly. That's certainly how he and his amateur friends in d12 at the time they came up with this idea thought it would be played, but they are not method actors, and proof is dead and marshall was in rehab because that stuff isn't entirely fictional.", "wheres the smart, educated, giving, selfless wholesome people at?", "He ain't no artist and he ain't no Houston rapper. Fucker went to LA to get famous and didn't hold it down for the town. Get the name of the city out your mouth with that mumble trash", "Try these:\n\nJ. Cole\n\nBig Sean\n\nTyler, The Creator\n\nChali 2na (Comin Thru is a great song)\n\nTech N9ne\n\nErica Banks\n\nMorray (My favorite right now but Quicksand is dope)", "I know your heart is in the right place, but [cognitive dissonance] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive dissonance) is exactly what he lacks.\n\nCognitive dissonance is the weird feeling people get when their actions disagree, or contradict their core beliefs: like someone who swears to love humanity in their heart, but commits an act of violence.\n\nThis fuck face LACKS cognitive dissonance.", ">Remember, kids and cops: Respect always goes both ways.\n\nKids and bigger kids with guns and badges\n\nFTFY", "\"Don't disrespect, I'm an artist\"\n\nNah you are a bleep and a bleep and a bleep but not an artist.\n\nPeople still defending this guy who did sing on a corpse being pushed out of sight. I'm puzzled why he didn't fortnite dance on the dead body too or had them bring the corpse on stage so he could teabag the carcass like the bleep he is.", "Tons of real hip hop.", "Piss artist, maybe.", "\"I'm an artist, YeaaaᵃᵃᵃᵃAAAaaa...ᵃᵃᵃaAaaaa\"", "Interviewer: sir, they died screaming!\nTravis Scott (probably): yeah. For me.", "No, you're an idiot who made too much money from speaking really fast.", "I might be wrong but by \"no disrespect\" he meant \"dude you are disrespecting ME and I won't allow anyone to disrespect ME.\"", "It seems like Travis Scott got famous too young to experience TRULY getting his ass beat for saying stupid shit in public.", "Keeping it classy", "a \\black\\ mirror?", "Someday it'll just be dudes dressed like video game characters farting into each other's mics and people will still say \"EvErY gEnErAtIoN tHiNkS tHeIr MuSiC iS bEsT\".", "How you call somebody a nerd when your lil beady bird chest is out in the open. Looks a tad like Lil man syndrome", "What a douche. Nothing about this guy is “Art”.", "Denzel curry said that he hates travis scott because his attitude is whack. \n\nGuess the evidence is there", "Jacques sounds totally oldfashioned (one could say unhip, hoho) to me at least...", "Makes sense. Doesn't mean the way he did it is justifiable in any way though. Specifically saying it into the microphone has no purpose unless he thinks doing it raises his social standing.", "[Art is dead](https://youtu.be/Le0vB1TgOjw)", "Do you even know what cognitive dissonance is?", "To play devil's advocate, he did stop the concert multiple times to get people help. Could have thought it was being taken care of and not realized how bad it was.", "D.A.R.E. was huge failure lol", "\"But I'm not racist, I have a black coworker\"", "There is a massive anti hip hop thing going on Reddit right now because of Travis Scott.\n\nIt probably has nothing to do with the fact that Reddit is mainly anti social young white suburbanites that love their niche death metal. \n\nIt's actually kind of sickening to see how much effort people are going to constantly posts shit on this topic when there have been way worse things to happen that barely got any.mention.\n\nBut you know, popular black hip hop artist is an asshole (and even more than an asshole, I'm not defending the guy AT ALL), so Reddit is all in a tizzy now.", "The problem is, we idolize people and not the things they do. Idolizing someone because you love their music I have no problem with, because then you're in love with their talent. But idolizing people because they are popular in and of itself is not good. It feeds the celebrities egos, making them think they are better than others like they're descendants of gods or something.", "And... People pay to see this POS?\n\nI'm so glad I've never heard of him before the trampling (and sad that I did).\n\nParole bitch about rich people... then make garbage like this rich and famous, SMH.", "Time for the record label to toss this clown aside and get a new one. His 5 mins of \"fame\" are done.", "Thank you for the clarification. It is astounding how many people do not know the actual definition.", "You can generally learn about a person's values from what comes out of their mouth. I don't have to know every asshole spewing garbage personally to judge them.", "I never heard of Travis scott, then people died at an event where he was on stage.\nMust be an American thing? Is this what you guys do while you ignore workers rights and healthcare?", "tbf I did try do a full comparison between my gen's Enter the 36 Chambers and an arbitrary Travis Scott track. It took me a while to fairly compare them but I think the works share similarities. I subjectively believe the Wu is a lot better (melodic, tuneful, good samples) but I worry that objectively the difference between is smaller than I would like. \nThe one major difference IMHO is that I think Travis Scott is kinda generic among his contemporaries (I've heard this style a lot) whereas the Wu were being fresh when they turned up with their dirty and basic sounding production. Pretty sure the Wu also used imagery a bit more and were slightly more poetic but I might just not be digging at Travis's lyrics hard enough.", "A lot of my really good friends are phish fans and they’re some of the nicest and most intelligent people I know, with great day jobs. The nitrous mafia is just there to sell their shit. They’re not there for the music.", "Mate, don't compare this talentless fool to T-Pain. T-Pain can actually sing, he only used auto tune to bring something different.", "now this is messed up on all levels he could handled that in a better way", "Travis Scott sure seems like a huge sack of shit.", "What is the broader worldview that Travis Scott introduces to his audience?", "Do any of your sandwiches have an olive impaled on a toothpick? For some reason, I equate that garnish to artisanal sandwiches.", "This foo is a lame. Plus he has shit music with bitch voice😂", "How does host pants defy the laws of gravity?? Money I guess", "This reads like someone who half listened to one kendrick song and is assuming they know what he raps about.\n\nThe dude’s entire thing is about escaping the violent cycle that plagues underprivileged communities.", "Literally no good reason to bring up racist dogwhistles here… this guy’s fucked up plenty for you to complain ab something real.", "It’s even worse, he’s Jacques Webster the 2nd", "The video of him standing over the crowd saying that as they crowd surf a body away is chilling. His career is over", "This guys really is trash. Drake carried this mans career with a single song.", "Have to add black star and talib kwali", "I’m A artist ", "I expected a little more professionalism from and artist that McDonald's named a hamburger after.", "Who dafaq is this Travis Scott anyway? Never heard of him until now. What a scumbag.", "I'm sure it made sense to the team of consultants who recommended it. Maybe the fact that it sounds 'country' makes parents less uncomfortable than other stage names of the genre", ">Sometimes people use “respect” to mean “treating someone like a person” and sometimes they use “respect” to mean “treating someone like an authority” \nand sometimes people who are used to being treated like an authority say “if you won’t respect me I won’t respect you” and they mean “if you won’t treat me like an authority I won’t treat you like a person” \nand they think they’re being fair but they aren’t, and it’s not okay.", "This guy's a gangsta? His real name is Clarence", "How long is this concert ongoing for! This travis scott has alot of stamina damn! \\ Sarcasm off \\", "Bingo \n\nJayz and Beyoncé aren't nearly as bad but they are still entitled pricks. Bought out a hospital wing and bribed the place to keep even other parents away from the newborn section for their \"privacy\"...\n\nThese people get called queen etc just stupid celibrity worship", "Mid Malone?", "Nothing wrong with nitrous", "The guy was strangely far out on stage...but still, he handled that terribly. Holding the mic up so everyone can hear you be rude to someone is a weird move. \n\n\nTravis Scott is obviously an asshole of a person.", "I gotta be honest, before the concert tragedy, I had no idea who this clown was. Now that I see stuff like this, the man is shit, like an actual piece of real shit.", "ugh I genuinely hate defending this piece of shit rn but you’re wrong—he produces basically all his own music. \n\nStill agree 100% tpain>travis\n\njust cuz travis is talented doesn’t make him not a douche bag", "Travis produces his own beats too for the most part. His response to the emergency at his concert was terrible, but this is just uninformed", "Because some how low pants are a dog whistle. When I was young, every single teen boy had sagged pants.", "Can confirm, worked as a videographer. If you are on stage, recording a name as unfortunate but as big as Travis Scott, you are at the top of your game. I hope all these incidents ruin his career if not send him to jail. I'm hoping he can watch everything that meant so much to him disappear and to be left destitute", "The internet is coming for Travis Scott today.", "Your comment is more of a reddit moment than his considering he was being ironic", "No be did not. Akon did. T Pain didn't start using auto tune until he signed to Akons label. Akon already had several massive hits with auto tune.\n\nThe culture accredited it to t pain but in reality T Pain was given the sound by Akon lol", "From first-hand experience, he is. A few years before my retirement from the Marines, we were celebrating a bachelor party at Eleven in Miami (a glorified and EXPENSIVE pseudo-strip club) and T-Pain and his entourage were in the booth next to us. Throughout the night we got to chatting with one of his friends and he insisted on having us meet T-Pain. Dude was the nicest person to us. Bought us a bottle and did nothing but praise servicemembers. Super nice to us and I didn't observe him deny any fan a selfie or photo.", "The people going to his shows must be a little trashy too.", "NGL I’d never heard of this dude before the death concert the other day. Guess I’m not the demographic that listens to his music.", "That's funny, because I haven't seen any of that at all. Huh.\n\nNow, I _have_ seen a huge amount of extremely well deserved backlash towards Travis Scott, who has been shown to be a thoroughly horrendous excuse for a human being. \n\nLet's not straw man that into something it is not. \n\nOh, and he should really pull his fucking pants up before he trips on them. It was a ridiculous trend 20 years ago. It's still a ridiculous trend today. Sure, there's cultural reasons for it's existence. That doesn't make it any less ridiculous.", "I expected him to be a country music singer from the name.", "Travis Scott built a reputation for being a decent producer before being pushed as an artist himself. \n\n \n\nHe's has production credits on two freaking classics, Yeezus and IFYRITL.", "They didn't say that. Twisting something someone said into something they didn't say so you can attack it is a straw man.", "Afroman had the best", "He also won the first season of masked singer (not sure if \"won\" is correct for these type of shows) and legitimately no idea it was him because he sounded amazing.", "An insult to tpain", "REGGIE Malone, that was his name", "Those pesky black people huh? Your comment reeks of racism.", "They are, but* what that guy said is the sort of thing that you hear on OAN and FOX as a dog whistle to basically say \"black people are a problem\". I'm not accusing this poster of that--their comment history suggests they aren't close--but it's why it's a bad idea.\n\nRap is not the problem, a toxic culture that has sprung up around it is (the socio-economic causes for that are a much larger can of worms). But when people say what dringleman said, the people who are most at risk to falling into and perpetuating that toxic culture hear \"you are wrong to like the thing you like\", which is more likely to put their back up and provoke a hostile response than anything useful.\n\nInstead, if you've got kids running around starting to listen to shit that glorifies misogyny, homophobia, etc., the correct attack is \"ah man, that guy's an asshole. Try this guy instead\" with someone like Chance the Rapper or Childish Gambino or whatever. People are way more likely to accept \"this guy's an asshole\" than they are to accept \"the genre of music you like is for assholes\", because the latter is, in fact, genre-based discrimination, and also totally nonsensical.", "Reddit is just boomers whining about everything now", "He has cognitive blissonance", "That's a really rough list lol anyone who isn't into modern rap will hate most those artist", "They don't even make the same type of music either. T-pain sings and Travis raps.", "Because good examples should be openly lauded, especially those visible to children.", "Drugs are great", "Get yo nerdy ass off the stage. I’m an artist, only artist up here. Not nerds.", "People on this thread are just being low key racist. Like yeah his response was terrible, but if this happened to a heavy metal band nobody would be calling him ugly and saying he had no talent.", "What happens when you give fucking morons record deals. This part of the industry has sunk really low, I know we all get that. Hope they sue the fuck out of him, clean him the fuck out.", "Travis is trash", "From the video it looks like he might have been more concerned with some guy he didn't know standing behind him. \n\n \n\nGiven how dangerous the life of a rapper is these days it's hard to blame him, if he's feeling anxious about that. \n \nEdit: apparently you people have time to downvote and comment but not watch the video.", "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travis_Scott", "Well there's a video that he did stop the show for an unconscious dud but he must have continued it after thinking it was okay", "[Travis Scott](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travis_Scott) \n \n >Jacques Bermon Webster II (born April 30, 1991), known professionally as Travis Scott (formerly stylized as Travi$ Scott), is an American rapper, singer, songwriter, and record producer. His stage name is the namesake of a favorite uncle combined with the first name of one of his inspirations, Kid Cudi (whose real name is Scott Mescudi). In 2012, Scott signed his first major-label contract with Epic Records. In November of the same year, Scott signed a publishing deal with Kanye West's GOOD Music, as part of its production wing Very GOOD Beats.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( \| )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( \| )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( \| )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove \| v1.5)", "The most telling part of the whole thing is that he's still using the microphone when he talks to the guy. Wants to make sure the crowd hears what a badass he is.", "Believe it or not, but this quirk actually has a name: illeism.\n\nIt's actually a pretty common thing with rappers. Mr T and MF Doom both did it.\n\n[Here's an incomplete list.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illeism#Notable_illeists)", "It really is, though.", "I'm thinking you nailed the definition of a dog whistle.\n\nit's not meant to be overt for some folks(like yourself).", "Just to piggyback off of this, here is one of T Pains twitch intros\n\nhttps://youtu.be/aoj9lkSxExE", "The amount of people concerned with pants not realizing the man has 2 left feet", "They aren’t relying on the artist, other shows have enough security and proper responses to situations", "\"I passed a black person on a sidewalk once without going to the other side of the street. I didn't even mutter the n word as I passed them\"", "I think fake internet points are fake and meaningless, anyone who has a hard time accepting that should ditch reddit and seek professional help.", "Lots of tough words for a guy whose career peaked in Fortnite.", "I hd never heard of him before AstroWorld.. thank god this guy is a walking trash bag", "Yeah because wearing clothes that fit is a conservative thing.", "Lol I was quoting 8 Mile", "Meanwhile, Dave Grohl would be like \"Dude, can you sing? Come sing with me!\"", "Wu-tang", "Maybe because it’s a school program telling them that…..? Not sure if you remember being in school but it was retarded and everyone hated it. Not to mention when the DARE cop let me wear the “drunk googles” all I wanted to do after that was get drunk", ">100% agree. How can these kind of people get such a large fanbase? \n\nAstroworld was a really good album (sorry if you dont like the style, but it was a good album, I'll die on that hill), and Travis Scott's music has been on the radio since his first album came out like 8 years ago. Scott got signed and immediately started to collaborate with top tier hip hop artists like Kayne West. \n\nTravis Scott is very much responsible for the new sound of rap/hip hop, or rather, popularizing that sound. He's basically an evolution of the style that Kid Cudi and Kayne West were popularizing. \n\nPrior to this event, I had 0 knowledge of what his shows where like. I don't see the appeal of live rap shows (with just 1 guy, trying to sound like he does on the CD with all the autotune and production... as much as I like that sound that sounds like a lame as hell concert). I've never been to one, and Travis Scott tickets are (I assume) expensive as all hell. \n\nAnyways, I guess my point is that its easy to get a lot of fans when you have multiple Billboard 200 hits and your latest album, Astroworld, spent time at number 1 on that chart.", "its lit 🔥", "[Better video that shows off his talent](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0jEfNJzJ64). I don't know why he uses autotune when he has such an amazing voice.", "This dude shouldn't be walking around free.\n\nFuck this guy", "Travis Scott being a jerk while at the same time clearing the stage of an unsafe condition", "Well this guy is a piece of shit.", "youre a nerd", "\"No Disrespect, NERD\"", "He has an interview with Steve-o on Steve-o's traveling interview bang bus show/podcast or whatever it's called.\n\nT pain really nice and down to earth, I really appreciate his perspective of money management while being a pop star.", "> And he lives in a van….down by the river!\n\nWait... Aint nothing wrong living in a van down by the river. Thats the cool hippie van. \n\nIts the plain white van by the school... Thats the one you need to be worried about. Now that I think about it. Actually, any plan panel van. They are just creepy as hell unless used for FBI surveillance or some small legal business. While I digress here, how about a life pro tip: Dont buy speakers out of the back of a van in a parking lot.", "If you listen to any kind of classic mainstream rock it very likely is about sex and money lol", "lmao reach harder. Show me a time a metal or punk band acted shitty and I’ll show you plenty of people talking shit. But metal isn’t as popular so you’re just not gonna hear about it from the same amount of people.", "Evil.\n\nThat is the only word with which to describe his behavior as a whole, especially considering the half-hearted sympathy shown towards the victims.", "The silly cunt needs to pull his jeans up.", "You aren't paying attention if you haven't seen it. Wonder why for days now there have been so many posts of non hip hop people stopping concerts for whatever reason? You don't even need to come to Reddit much to see it because it's constantly being spammed on the main subs.\n\nAnd now we are back onto the sagging pants things? Yea, shine through dude, shine through (and I think it's stupid but not enough to care about unless, you know, there is a reason behind it).", "Its actually the media that does that. They perpetuate the stereotype", "You're a fucking idiot", "There was a video of him during astroworld doing warm ups and you could hear the auto tune kicking in.", "his lyrics are so simple literally an 8 year old could rhyme better.", "He doesn’t, “wear the latest clothes” or even ones that don’t, “reek”.", "I feel the same about Drake, his real name is Aubrey Graham", "Never heard of this dude before but his music sounds like shit and he seems like trash.", "you gotta have the hand crafted toothpicks for it to be \"artisanal\"", "In small quantities, with B12 supplements the next day. \n\nDo not overdue, do not skip the supplements. It can cause permanent nerve damage.", "Hands up, both hands up!!", "Your reductionist dumbassery is what perpetuates black male stereotypes", "He really is a piece of shit.", "This is the shittiest comparison that has ever been made", "He doesn't \"wash the area between his crotch and his legs\".", "Who gives a fuck, you boring cunt", "Fucker needs to spend some time in jail for manslaughter.", "Not that TMZ should be appreciated. Their behavior is basically the same as this video.", "Dude can't even keep his pants on his ass, the bar is very low.", "Yeaaah boi. RIP.", "So reddit, what are your thoughts on Travis Scott?", "Yes, yes it was. Dare was obviously not put together very well. I guess that was a bad example lol.\n\nMy point was just that people are just falling victim to his stardom. No one should get to act horribly just because they're famous.", "Right, because music only started being about sex and money recently. Are you for real?", "this shit right here was released in 2004 lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gczBgNB-p1w\n\nno one can tell me T Pain made auto tune famous lol", "Kendrick's probably one of the most anti-crime rappers out there, and you thought this comment made sense when you submitted it. How?", "You don't have to be 65 to think that having your pants halfway down your legs is stupid.", "Yeah, good point. If you're out there making \"artisanal\" sandwiches but not whittling your own toothpicks, you're only insulting the entire concept.", "He’s never “been with a woman” he doesn’t “understand how that works”", "Back in the day people like Travis were just shot up in the hood before they got this far. Goes to show how safe it’s getting.", "What an incredible douchebag", "I sincerely hope this is the end of this guy's 'career'. Fucking trash of a human and an \"artist\".", "No disrespect!", "I’m a artist", "Pull up your pants...", "I know people like that. \"It's not racist because I'm not racist\" then \"It's not disrespecting\" since I've said \"no disrespect\". And therefore, it's not homosexual since I've said \"No homo\".", "I didn’t know much about him other than the memes about the mcdonald’s meal, and disliked him just for how annoying and over-advertised it was. Now i feel validated lol\n\nAlso, i feel for the videographer. I got chewed out by a country star while catering for their wedding one time, when they totally missed that i was 100% following the anal-retentive directions they had given me and my team themselves. I got a decent gratuity and apology from a family member, but i’ve always harbored a huge grudge against people who think their position of fame or notoriety gives them a blank check to gaslight, abuse, or otherwise mistreat people just doing their jobs.", "Don't tell them. :)\nI am channeling generations of parents using irrational arguments. If I try to argue it is boring she will know it is me that is the problem.", "I didn’t know who Travis Scott was before this but now I don’t want to know. What a monumental dbag.", "I'm sorry for sounding like a douche, but who the fuck are fans of this guy, who even listens to this shit and even more - paying to see his concerts live?", "Woooosh", "As much I want you to be right. I imagine his career will be fine after this.", "It is the low hanging fruit which is why I say it since it is pretty much irrelevant just like her argument.", "Well that seals the deal. He’s a genuine cunt.", "I've always thought he was an extremely overrated rapper but damn I'm seeing he's a real piece of shit now too", "Who the fuck is Travis Scott?", "Oh look, the first of the wave from the crazy narcissistic aRtIsT bullshit that Kanye started....", "What you rap about doesn’t define you. Eminem for instance is a really good dude, supports his community and even when he was drug addled never disrespected fans and employees like this. Came off of drugs and has spent years in recovery and promotes being clean through his music.\n\nIts okay to joke, its okay to call people out on their bullshit in the context of a performance. Its not okay to be actual living scum of the earth.", "I'm thinking this Travis Scott guy is not a very nice person.", "What a cuck scrub! Promoters should refuse to book him ever!", "We need real artists to start speaking up about shit artists who make shit art instead of taking the hippy dippy everything is art if you wish upon a star! stance they’ve taken that clearly isn’t working.", "It’s pretty much a meme at this point. \n\n“You are the biggest fucking idiot I’ve ever met. And I mean that respectfully.”", "A convenient way to label assholes as assholes to distract you from the real assholes that get $1.5T tax breaks, pollute our waters without consequences and ruin our environments. Everyone there had to sign a waiver.", "\"Also, by my authority I declare you less of a person than me, so you aren't respecting my authority if you don't accept my lack of respect for your personhood.\"", "Yeah, Chris Brown still has a career.", "same, I put on one song out of curiosity and instantly started bleeding from my ears. Couldn't even make it half way through a song, and that was a solid generous effort to find anything artistic about it.", "Douchiness so cringy it’ll give you goosebumps…", "Regarding rappers’ criminal history being glossed over, you clearly have never watched VladTV.", "Off topic-ish, but i have an associate in my social orbit who genuinely believes this shit as a life philosophy \n\n\"If someone is going to die no matter what, what's the point of going out of your way to slow it down? You're wasting resources and other people's time at that point\"\n\nHe said this without any hint of irony once and I was deeply disturbed by it.", "Travis Scott is a piece of shit. He should not be allowed to perform ever. Not even talented without an auto tuner. How can he call himself an artist?", ">The one major difference IMHO is that I think Travis Scott is kinda generic among his contemporaries \n\nThis is what I was thinking. I like 90s rock and think a lot of it was good music. That doesn't mean Nickelback is automatically great.", "Wow. That just screamed insecurity.", "Not sure if /s\n\nEdit: laugh all you want, I see comments worse than this daily on this god forsaken website", "Wait? is this satire…. I don’t even know anymore.", "After seeing all these videos from concerts I’ve come to a conclusion. The majority of performers and artist are compassionate people who want there fans to be safe and Travis Scott is a huge pile of warm wet dogshit.", "Im just a random millennial from Sweden and I watch that dude Andrew Callahan on Channel 5 News (And All Gas No Brakes) sometimes. \nHe often \"interviews\" these kind of rappers. \nI just wanna say that the American rap scene I experience with those videos completely blows my mind.", "Can we please be clear that over looking comments on Reddit does not constitute “not paying attention”?\n\nThis isn’t some important cultural hub where people exchange high minded ideas and cutting edge, on-the-ground experiences. \n\nIt’s just people like you two arguing about Travis Scott with other people you’ve never met.", "Pika Pika, mother fucker", "Correction:\n\nYour a nerd.", "This is why the rock genre stays forever winning", "Also people who say “ I don’t like drama” are absolutely dramatic individuals who are about to engage in “drama.”", "You're just mad because they have money.", "This is classic ‘you can’t hold me accountable for anything I say or do’ trashiness. Dude is filth", "He also invited a girl on stage to rap With him and got offented that she said ‚n-word’. When the n-word was his own lyrics", "If a person feels the need to loudly declare to disinterested parties that they are something that they should already be presumed to be implicitly in the context of their situation, that is a very strong indicator that they are not in fact that thing. Like a parent who constantly asserts that they competently raise their children, or a politician who constantly brags about being capable of diplomacy, or a businessman who feels to need to constantly remind people that they know how to make profits.", "I mean reddit is a mob with ADHD, it'll pass and they'll find something else to shake their fists at in impotent anger.", "Incredibly racist take.", "Pull up your pants, you look absurd.", "I thought he was a YouTuber", "You completely avoid addressing my statement that the backlash is specific to Travis Scott. \n\n> And now we are back onto the sagging pants things?\n\n_YOU_ brought it up. _YOU_ are the one that appears to care. _YOU_ are the one arguing with people about it then saying you don't care.\n\nDon't know why your panties are in a bundle, but you got nothing dude. Let it go and move on.", "Off-screen death is a common trope. He’ll be back next season.", "Are his pants falling off?", "Are his jeans sewn onto the bottom of his boxers?", "Damn, since Kanye west interview everything goes downhill..", "Fuck this guy", "Right, what an artist you are", "Oh reminds me of Serena Williams screaming at the umpire trying to bully her way out of a code violation that her coach later admitted to.", "Arrtis", ">I’m an artist!\n\n\\-Nero?", "me too", "If you aren't looking for super popular artists, JID is a phenomenal rapper and humble guy", "I've been watching these clips all day for material but this one still gave me a chuckle.", "I know your heart is in the right place, but he technically could still have cognitive dissonance. You can't tell what someone is feeling. Like most people experiencing cognitive dissonance, he might just be ignoring it", "Experiencing any strong feelings about celebrities including your negative ones seems like an odd use of time.", "It's simple. Don't listen to him. Don't cancel him. Don't think about him. If you see him on the street you may punch him. But limit it to that.\nWasting time on ignorant morons is the biggest lose you can do.\nI'm speaking about the artist. I'm not gonna say his name. Google doesn't need that hook.", "People need to stop calling themselves fans and remember you’re paying customers first and foremost. These celebs treat their “fans” like shit, except for photo ops. As long as you let them treat you as such and so long as you see yourself as a “fan”, you’re disposable. Stop putting them on some pedestal.", "Am I now? Plenty of super rich people don't act like that and aren't worshipped for some fake persona and I have 0 issue with them.", "How many of y’all had their mind blown when the video said 20% battery and thought it was your phone?", "So is this guy just an absolute asshole all the time?", "Asshole behaves like an asshole on stage? No way!", "But driving around that golf kart with the beer goggles on sure was fun!", "I hope lawsuits from the Astromess and social media destroy this fucker. What a disgusting individual.", "Travis is an a*hole.", "Did concert video for a few years and filmed Travis Scott. Can confirm he’s the only artist that didn’t let us do our jobs and film him from the stage. Also we didn’t find out until the minute the show started and his team stopped us. We were working for the company that put on the event and they didn’t want to stand up to his team either. The whole thing ended up being a shit show and we had to evacuate the photo pit because the crowd took down a fence and started rushing it while he encouraged them. It was an outdoor show and fans were running backstage until security was able to get control again. Total diva and no respect for all the people around him doing their jobs to make him look good.", "This isnt that crazy. Event photographers shouldnt be standing in the middle of the stage unless its been explicitly cleared with the performer. Thats very standard. Like, how often to you see venue photographers planted with tripods between performers in the middle of the stage less theyre filming their own concert video?", "It's really how we got certain politicians that I don't want to mention in the US. People think this shit is so cool and they want this fake machoism because they are insecure themselves.", "I think we can all agree that Travis Scott is a complete douche and an ass.", "u/math-yoo is employing dated language and improper slang usage to signal to readers that they are not expressing genuine feelings, but playing a bit. \n\nThe irony is enhanced by the content. Run DMC was considered young and dangerous 35+ years ago and people of a certain age in those days would have had an issue with their casual dress because performers likely wore more formal garments back in the prior generations.", "I mean he's up on a stage.", "Wu were trying to emulate that low fidelity, grindhouse feel of old 70s kung fu and samurai movies with their music. This gives them a unique sound even today. \n\nTavis Scott isn't anywhere near imaginative. \n\nThat said, I can think of several rap artists in the past decade or so who are pretty damn decent, and* seemingly fairly responsible. I don't know why a whole music genre is being tossed out every time there's a chance to.", "Switch Baldwin with Chris Pratt and the story shifts even faster.", "He is nothing with out the energy of others. \n\nHe is an attention Whore.", "And Clarence lives at home with both parents.", "I'm a concert photographer and it is a big no-no to stand on stage while shooting/recording. What this kid did was bad etiquette but the way Travis Scott handled the situation was dicky and immature.", "/s", "“ I am a artist” that cracked me up. you’re no artist you’re a whiny baby with a big ego. And you make terrible I guess music if that’s what you call it that’s all.", "Guess who’s career is over soon 😉", "Meh it's hard with one liners and especially Beyonce fans are rabid.\n\nI do hate having to say /s it's also ridiculous", "The only thing that surprised me in this video is the low battery message.", "Well, i'm on board with Mr. Scott being cancelled for being a total douche. But, this videographer is way out of place here. The only time cameras get directly behind the performer on center stage is when they're filming a video or special or something (for the performer) \"but you don't work for Travis\" makes him sound like a total cock but, I get what he's saying. It's not normal.\n\nThat being said, I couldn't name you a single song by this guy. Watching people get trampled while you're singing is pretty gross.", "9 years ago Travis Scott’s manager told us about how Travis left him to die, he’s probably always been a POS.\n\n>Additionally, Morris goes on to write about an incident where he had a seizure and felt Scott left him stranded in a time of need.\n“You want to know what low, grimy motherfucker Travis Scott is? Late one night, we were all down in the Dungeon, up late, having a party. Music was playing, we were all having fun… and then I did what all epileptic people do from time to time: I had a seizure. You know what Travis Scott did? He left. He and his friend Tony left me. I eventually ended up at the hospital that night, but Travis couldn’t be bothered.”\nHe continues by claiming Scott refused to have him manage his career because of his seizures.\n\nhttps://hiphopdx.com/news/id.21496/title.g-o-o-d-musics-travi-scott-faces-criticism-from-former-associate-shane-morris", "Hey, it’s offensive to douchebags to compare them to Travis Scott. At least they’re useful.", "What a fucking bully.", "We really just didn't know about it as much before.", "The Internet has certainly turned on this uneducated talentless asshat .", "I feel bad for all these guys praising this clown. Even before all this happened. How th can you praise this kind of sh!t? Rotten culture", "Its fuckin lit dawg.", "Youngest victim: 14 years old.", "Trample Scott doin' his thang.", "Dude how are you not sure this person is being sarcastic? Lmfao", "Bruh what? Lmfao \n\nIf I compared baseball to horse back riding nobody would be comparing homeruns to Sea Biscuit. Two complete different genres my guy.", "They targeted redditors. Redditors.", "Who is this trash? Why is he famous in the first place? I try sampling his songs quite a bit and all of them are the same autotune basic hiphop beat piece of shit. \n\nThere’s so many unique rappers out there and the youngling choose to listen to this?", "“Who the fuck he think he is?”\n\nWho the fuck are you? Before the news hit of how many people died at your concert I never heard you’re name before.", "People who identify as 'pro-choice', but also support vaccine mandates is a recent topical example.", "It’s almost as if a genre of music whose lyrics promote violence, misogyny, drug dealing and “street rules” attracts musicians that embody those values.", "And at least your shit art isn't killing anyone. His shit art is.", "ESL here, is Aubrey an unisex name? Never heard of men being named Aubrey.", "I'm going to show how old I am right now. Why even wear pants. Or are they leggings?", "The \"I'm a artist\" just irks me.\n\nThe amount of times I heard people saying this shit that I booted out of the event, is too many. I literally stopped promoting rap because I didn't want to deal with this kind of crap anymore. No one but you fuckin' cares that you're an \"artist\", people are just trying to make money and go home you fuckin' dweebs lol.", "I mean when our parents tell us we're nothing without fame and money, why would people grow up to respect anything else?", "serious question how the fuck is Travis Scott? I don't know this dude but he needs to pull his pants up like a real man", "It’s such a shite look, no one wants to see your underwear", "I don't even know who this person is, based on the stories about him in the last few days, he seems to be an awful person, why can such a person be famous and worshipped by so many?", "Mf really just recommended Hopsin 💀", "Naw Kendrick Lamar is definitely \"I had nothing now I'm rich\"", "You're sadly correct.", "He’s a Shartist", "I got downvoted the other day for basically saying stop caring about the opinions of celebrities. \n\nTo me they perform a services so their opinions and thoughts outside their profession is roughly as important to me as the guy delivering packages or making my coffee…", "and brainless kylie jenner is on kid number two with this scumbag. what a great family! raking in the $$$$ for being stooooopid.", "Man the real nerd is the dude who doesnt know how to use pants.", "Cancel cringe culture. Cancel rappers. Boring ass music.", "fuck travis scott that POS - thats guys probably like \"YOU HIRED ME DUMBASS\" God our celebrities are so bad these days", "It’s actually extremely easy to blame him, because he’s a vacuous self-obsessed maniac who prioritises his own fame and notoriety over the lives of others.", "Maybe, but that’s not really what the video depicts.", "To play devils advocate to you, he orchestrated the chaos and he deserves to be jailed", "How are you going to call yourself a professional performer and you don't understand why the videographer is there to get good shots of you for the post-show merchandising and media coverage? I hope they put that bit in the final cut.", "cause he's a POS", "No, bitching about other people's clothes is.", "Holy fuck you guys are all insane lmao, ive never seen someone get this trashed before from some fucking tik tok Videos!", "This I cannot understand. He beat the shit out of one of the most famous women in the world and he’s still on the radio. People have been “canceled” for less", "This was planned guys relax", "Rap ones yes", "Chris Brown shit was behind closed doors and happened to another celebrity. \n\nThey literally had dead bodies being crowd surfed away on camera. That's dystopian movie plot shit.", "That's big 'I haven't fully processed that my life is also temporary' energy.", "\"Ima artist\" lol. Poopy diaper ass. Then refers to himself in 3rd person lmfao", "Why do people go to this twat's concerts, or are they as big a twat as him.", "The way he says “OFF!” Like the dudes a dog or something", "Yes, he's a douche.\n\nIf everyone is really that outraged, do what you do best. Cancel the guy.", "I don't believe this. I think the human brain is just wired to recognize and pay more attention to negative things and bad people that it knows it should avoid. Evolution has favored the part of our pattern recognition that's better at seeing danger than the part that sees safety. It just takes more effort to seek comfort and see goodness in people, including ourselves, but I want to think it's still there. Otherwise, what's the point?", "boycot quarter pounders!", "I clicked the link because I needed wholesome nostalgia hit.", "Yes but in the grand scheme of things he’s an indefensible shart smear who deserves to be jailed", "So what do you call someone who holds contradictory ideals and does not realise it? Do we describe then as \"lacking cognitive dissonance\"? For someone without contradictory ideals, they also lack cognitive dissonance right? Is there a better way to describe it? I call it doublethink, but not sure if that's a scientific term, lol", "guys, I'm starting to have a mild intuition that this man is a real selfish cunt. But correct me if I'm going to far on this one...", "I don’t think he meant it in the sense of “no disrespect intended towards you”, it sounded to me like an imperative - “you are not allowed to disrespect me”", "Who the fuck is Travis Scott and why is he all over Reddit", "I got downvoted to hell for a similar comment in a post about the deaths at his concert. Deleted it", "I'm sorry classit was the correct term for your type of discrimination. Im sorry your a classit retard.", "Woman in twitter still flick to him and say they'd gladly take the beating.", "People's choice of idolising really blows my mind sometimes... Some of y'all have 0 class and i hope you learn to open your eyes and face reality.", "Reminded me so hard of the \"With all due respect\" bit from Talladega Nights.", "Does he actually have a kid named Jacques Bermon Webster?!", "Lol. That is not at all the logically consistent point that you think it is.", "Is it perhaps time to stop worshiping arrogant mediocre pricks simply because they can sing and dance pretty well?", "That’s literally what the investigation states. If you slip in the upper deck of Chase, you’re going down.", "There's always Wikia/Fandom.", "Uh oh buddy that's rrrrracist /s", "Phish was banned from Red Rocks because the town of Morrison pulled all the camping permits the day before the show, forcing thousands of people to have no place to stay and wander the streets. The town responded with riot police. They created their own mess and blamed Phish.", "Shitty ass toys r us rapper", "Yes he’s not there because he likes the guy, he’s doing his job and is a trained professional cameraman.\n\nTS should be honoured anyone would take a photo of him anyhow, I think that might not be for much longer.", "> MF doom\n\nALL CAPS when you spell the man name.", "“BUT I AM NAPOLEON!!”", "Someone died at a Dead & Company show the same way this year. People at these shows are so fucked up. The safety barriers designed for people \"reasonably\" inebriated are not sufficient for individuals tripping balls and super drunk.", "I understand sagging. I do not understand whatever that is called. His entire ass is out. The belt is below his ass. How does that make any sense ?", "Yeah me too so I wouldn't know", "LMAO I immediatly thought of this video after typing the comment", "> Stephen Colbert\n\nI don’t include him with the others. He gives celebs a chance to speak for themselves and his ass kissing is not that bad.\n\nHe had James Franco on and he didn’t fawn on him when he’d been accused of being a creep. Although it was a publicity interview, it wasn’t like it was glossing over the accusations.", "He doesn't get a fuck", "Nobody will listen to you.", "His dad fella...", "Percival Meriwether", "POS", "> That said, I can think of several rap artists in the past decade or so who are pretty damn decent\n\ncan you give me a list? I would appreciate names to counter balance some of the trashy popular stuff that floats around so much these days.", "I think it's misleading due to the wording. Of course he probably experiences CD, and ignores it, but its important to point out there is a highly common misuse of CD. It's mostly associated with hypocrisy, when it's not the actual definition. That combined with saying \"the level of CD\" would imply, albeit loosely, that CD could be interpreted to mean certain amount of hypocrisy. We know that CD is a mental and physical sensation, whereas CD could be interpreted as an insult meaning low mental capacity for reasoning.", "Most pop artists use auto tune and get away with it, because it is not that noticeable, but they do use it to fix small issues.\n\nTravis and others use autotune as an artistic effect to turn your voice into something that cannot be done without it. It is not used to cover a bad singing voice, even artists who can sing amazingly will use it on occasion for the effect (like the weeknd on sidewalks). I understand you might not be accustomed to the sound, but don’t fall for the lazy critique that they only use it becayse they suck at singing.", "Most pop artists use auto tune and get away with it, because it is not that noticeable, but they do use it to fix small issues.\n\nTravis and others use autotune as an artistic effect to turn your voice into something that cannot be done without it. It is not used to cover a bad singing voice, even artists who can sing amazingly will use it on occasion for the effect (like the weeknd on sidewalks). I understand you might not be accustomed to the sound, but don’t fall for the lazy critique that they only use it becayse they suck at singing.", "Now I see why that they had that cunt on Fortnite.", "I hope his career is over.", "Del the funky homosapien", "I'm not sure why people aren't crossposting these to /r/travisscott.", "I hope the poor guy still got paid at least.", "The rapper is tired. See him to bed.", "I hate to agree with the Chinese social credit thing, but this really make me want to be able to down-vote a person.", "Phish fans are also the most pretentious, condescending assholes out there.", "That’s what I’m going to call him from now on. Jacques Webster. Jacques Webster is the worst kind of human… no disrespect.", "The attractiveness and flirtatiousness scale compared to bad action is too high.\n\nMost people who get 'cancelled' actually care about their fans, and their fans cared about them as a person.\n\nChris brown? People just want to see his face and body and watch him move. He has an alright voice while autotuned as well.", "you rly trying to understand his behavior when his pants are falling off?", "“Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law.”\n\nAll these pop artists are just Aleister Crowley followers who think they have some sort of hidden knowledge.\n\nSource: my close friend films rap music videos and I’ve been on their sets and heard them talk.", "It wasn't live on camera is what I was getting at. It also wasn't as connected and always online a world.", "For some reason this is the first time I've actually seen and heard Travis Scott.\n\nFor some reason, I had it in my mind that he was a white punk musician. I must have been thinking of some other Travis.\n\nDoesn't change anything though, fuck this guy, he seems like a real piece of shit to the people working to make his show safe and good.", "And he is reproducing with Kylie.", "There's something hilarious about calling someone a nerd while your pants hang under your ass.", "Now there's a duo of snappy dressers, the LMFAO. Matching outfits, clean sneakers. You can tell they’re the right kind of gentlemen to hip hop to, friend.", "I don't know much about him, but he's a US rapper that is in the news at the moment because there was a crushing at his recent concert. People are saying he knew and didn't do anything to intervene, which would be pretty lame if true.", "I Imagine he and LiveNation already hired a squadron of teams to take care of the legal situation. \n\nAll I imagine happening is him getting probation or maybe a month or so of jail that he uses to up his rep. Then livenation has to pay an amount comparable to asking a grown professional to give up a hundred dollars.\n\nSadly this story will die in two months tops and they’re careers will be over fine", "Especially ones who can't remember to bring their belts to work. :P", "lol you’re dumb as hell if you think the majority of his fans thought he did anything wrong\n\nTravis is 100% responsible for what happened but his shitty fans are to blame as well\n\nThis was barely even a concert and more of a gathering for degenerates who want to fight to live music.\n\nFuck Travis Scott and fuck his shit fans", "Anyone who likes Travis Scott is equally trash", "When I saw his name I assumed it was country music.", "Fucking garbage.", "Yea Travis Scott is a piece of shit, how people didn't recognize this earlier is beyond me. He is the worst representation next to Takashi, any of the garbage Lil's, mgk etc to hip hop and rap. I honestly hope this tarnishes his career, he's a whack clown who deserves nothing but straight up hate.", "Someone should punch that guy in the mouth", "In defense of Travis's music (not him as a person), the psychedelic rap style was pretty fresh at the time and he did popularize it with Rodeo (90210 and Antidote being huge hits). Astroworld was a unique album due to the features he had on it (John Mayer, Frank Ocean, and Stevie Wonder). As much as I like the music, I would never see a concert because he really doesn't bring that much to the table. I doubt he writes the lyrics fully and ~~I know for a fact he doesn't produce it~~ I was actually wrong here according to wiki. But his name brought some quality to the track somehow.\n\nI like alot of modern rap but outside of RTJ and Kendrick, good luck finding finding anything that compares to a goat super group like Wu.", "If I remember correctly, there was a father that missed an emergency birth of his kid because of their security stopping him from accessing the floor his wife was on. F them hard.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nedit: [Rolling Stone](https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/man-says-beyonce-and-jay-zs-bodyguards-kept-him-from-newborns-184973/) article about it\n\n\"Lenox Hill staffers, speaking anonymously, told the Daily News that Beyoncé and Jay-Z paid $1.3 million to seal off and redecorate a wing of the hospital in order to protect their privacy.\" Seems like their home(s) would have been cheaper.", "These people actually believe that people have a death time, like it's gods plan that they die there and then and even if they didn't die that way they would've ended up dying some other way\n\nGreat coping strategy for grief. Absolutely deficient when it comes to prevention", "Add MC Chris to the list. Barely makes ends meet but still publicly shames and kicks fans out over tweets", "Kendrick Lamar\n\nRun the Jewels\nKiller Mike\nEL-P\n\nJoey Badass\n\nFreddie Gibbs\n\nCurrency (with Harry Fraud albums are great)\n\nGRISELDA\n\nWestside Gun\n\nConway The Machine\n\nBenny the Butcher\n\nVince Staples\n\nOpen Mike Eagle\n\nEarl Sweatshirt\n\nIsaiah Rashad\n\nTyler, the Creator\n\nAction Bronson\n\nSmino \n\nJ. cole I guess\n\nChris Crack\n\nJpeg Mafia\n\nFlying Lotus\n\nListen to older:\n\nDre., 2pac, Biggie, Gza, Lady of Rage, Kim, Snoop Dog, Neptune’s, Nas, Canibal Ox, Ms. Lauryn Hill, Missy Elliott, Jay z, Kanye West, Goodie Mob, Eminem (first 3-4 albums).", "You can’t tell the line that says “you can tell they’re the right kind of gentlemen to hip hop to, friend” is maybe just maybe a little sarcastic dude? Really? Lol", "Guessing he won’t be guest appearing in Fortnite anymore", "Like do you have to keep your legs all splayed out just to barely keep them on? I dont get it either man", "It’s Reddit on a thread about hip hop, you never really know man.", "Surprising that someone who doesn't know how to wear pants when he is over the age of 4 also lacks social manners.", "I never realized how big of a piece of shit he is until the last few days.", "Not even just celebrities, but pseudo celebrities get this love and attention too. Like the fucking Paul brothers who have no reason to garner so much admiration. They are literal human garbage. If aliens came to this planet to evaluate who is garbage amongst people, the Paul's would be topping that list with trump, Rogan, Tucker Carlson etc.", "Generalizing and undermining an entire subgenre of hiphop just because the name doesn't sound classy enough for you, lol. The fuck do you listen to, modern classical?", "'No offense, but'", "If he is narcissistic enough to kick his own videographer from the stage, he is surely narcissistic enough not to see commotions of people dying as he performed.", "My favorite is probably once Grateful Dead got word that the Hells Angels were in the crowd stabbing people they just noped the fuck out and helicoptered out as soon as they could.", "How long has he been going for though? I feel like I heard this rub first from Tyler the Creator a fair old while ago. \n\n> I doubt he writes the lyrics fully \n\nthat's pretty disappointing because as far as I'm aware (do you have any best examples of his word play?) the wordsmithing isn't even that hot. The more I discover about this guy the more he looks like someone like Lil Pump who seems somewhat like a manikin for other people to put their ideas, lyrics, beats and clothes upon.\n\n> good luck finding finding anything that compares to a goat super group like Wu. \n\nI think Wu is a decent example for me because it hits what I assume is average age for a Travis fan for me (i.e. did I like \"better\" stuff when I was that age?) and also its got that back to basics production angle which is similar to Travis's style of production as opposed to something that's really trying to nail remedies.", "Smh indeed", "no bro you ain't a artist\n\nyou are a fucking piece of shit", "This is why he looks like a fucking dumbass in every picture that’s taken of him", "What is the point of his pants?", "It will be a net positive. It's better to be despised than unknown. He'ls the most famous celebrity for this news cycle, taking over for Alex Baldwin. I had no clue who this guy was up until 2 days ago, I thought he was a country singer when I 1st heard the story.", "This dude reminds me of all the losers from my high school. The fact that so many people worship a guy like this is scarier than anything else.", "“Kickin the camera man’s off of my stages, cus I don’t like how he snappin my angles”", "You’re thinking of Travis Barker?", "Cool pants Travis. You forget to pull them back up after your shoot? He looks like a fucking tool.", "Its all so juvenile", "That nerd with a camera probably is more of an artist but thats just my 5cents.\n\nAlso jesh what a douche..", "Of all the musicians who came to an untimely end, why can't this douchebag.", ">You can tell they’re the right kind of gentlemen to hip hop to, friend.\n\nBro fuckin read that out loud to yourself lmfaooo", "Aggressive actions towards women will always be met with a lot of aggrandizing from some \"I'd like to see you try that in front of me!\" but ultimately leads nowhere. Individuals hate violence against women, society is like, \"meh shrugs, working as intended.\"", "Lets hear your rebuttal.", "I keep seeing videos of this clown. How did he have thousands of fans attend his concert in the first place?", "He ain’t that cute", "What a stupid person with a stupid way of dressing.", ">No disrespect\n\ndisrespects", "Travis is a reference to his uncle. Scott is a reference to Kid Cudi.", "What an asshole", "If you're like me and thought maybe it wasn't that bad... like that fight in hs that was just two dudes shoving and chest bumping?\n\nNo, he tried to tribble her head off the dashboard like a basketball.", "meh cringey af, but i still like his music", "We've been atomised and alienated from our community, so people try to find unhealthy parasocial connections with the people making their entertainment, it's bizarre, disturbing, and something that can only be fixed with a complete upheaval of society", "“I said “with all due respect””\n\nThat doesn’t mean you get to say whatever you want to say to me!\n\nSure as shit does! It’s in the Geneva Convention!", "They really drink their own Koolaid, eh? Wow. That...really doesn't sound too far off from the reasoning employed by the average conservative talk host, Tik Tok influencer, or MLM Facebook mom.\n\nThink we might be boned.", "> an artist\n\nHe's `a artist` remember?", "Yeah, probably. I just looked it up and Blink-182 had a former member named Scott too, so I was probably just thinking of Blink-182 the whole time.", "They are prochoice for killing fetuses. That doesn't mean pro choice for everything. For example, they are probably not prochoice for stripping in public, even though \"it's my body, and I can choose to remove clothing if I want to\".", "Wow, that was the most liberally creative note exploration of the national anthem I’ve ever heard. Well executed too.", "More like “EeeeeEeeeeeEeeeeee” whatever linqo that was", "Travis Scott is an asshole lol \n\nThere have been multiple accounts of it throughout the year.. \n\nYou wanna piss him off? call him asap rocky lol \n\nASAP camp has issue with him for years already", "bro is really trying to draw connections between sagging pants, anti-intellectualism, and mumble rap into a statement on laziness trends all in the same comment. this is a gold medal in the reddit moment olympics.\n\nis it not possible that travis scott is just an asshole? there are plenty of people that create and enjoy ‘mumble rap’ and participate in ‘the forgetting of belts’ without trying to make a statement on intellectualism. you are clearly making all of this up.", "Enough of this asshole", "M&M is white, tho, and the rest are black. So it's not really racist if there is an exception.", "Oh, true. Thank you!", "Almost like he's no different than the entire Kardashian/Jenner clan he bred into. Trash from top to bottom.", "The guy is a fucking loser", "One uses II once there is a III. Until then it is either Jr or no modifier.", "That guy can actually sing without auto tune tho and he can sing well", "Agreed, I'm pointing out that it's not racist, but tons of people will say it is", "\"Y'all nerds deserved to die at Astro world. No disrespect.\"", "Monkey, from black mirror.", "It’s because cancelling is in your head", "He just lacks cognisance.", "I've been seeing the name a lot lately. Reddit is really obsessed with him.", "It took until this year for R Kelly to go to jail...", "Music is fire tho", "hope he's found guilty on the charges he's about to face. Lock morons like this up.", "Based on the wiki article, it sounds like that's someone who has overcome* the cognitive dissonance by forming justifications for the inconsistency.", "He couldn't possibly understand the level of \"nerdiness\" that was required to produce & distribute his music as well as put on this concert. I hate people who only care to see what's going on directly in front of them. Entitled pricks.", "Wow this asshole has fans ?", "Omg reddit. Are we killing Travis Scott's career? I hope so. Besides being a terrible person, he's also a terrible artist and I hope I never hear a song from him again.", "Fucking trash, his girl is trash. I hope he gets sued until he has to suck dick for nickels. Truly a hack scum. Auto tune wankster", "It's racist to... criticize ill fitting clothes?", "They had enough money to have a birth at private facility or home if they wanted that amount of privacy.", "[With All Due Respect…](https://youtu.be/Af-Id_fuXFA)", "Literally second person he said as well LMAO.", "Why do people listen to shitty music from a Kardashian's bitch?", "So is he cancelled yet?!", "Hopefully the vid crews will refuse his shows in future.", "So i looked it up, and Jr is specifically for father and son. If you were given the same name as another member of your family (such as your grandfather), you are the 2nd or II. There is no requirement of a III or third.", "Those people who say \"well, it was their time to go\" are the most fucking annoying people ever", "Never said I was woke im just saying your point of view is twisted.", "I guess it’s a lie that bullies never succeed 🤷🏼‍♂️", "Sure sure fair enough but most of these sound cloud rappers use it.. because they have 0 actual musical talent. He's not someone who knows how to sing right and does it anyway. \n\nI wouldn't defend his use of it but you're welcome to your opinion of course.", "there are fewer and fewer travis scott fans that were alive for DARE", "Aw man, all we got to do was walk in a straight line on stage. \nWish I got to drive a golf kart.", "I would be surprised if anyone actually scrolled far enough to read this comment but I can kind of see where he is coming from with this, dudes on stage trying to make a performance Infront of who knows how many people and behind him in his peripheral vision is some short dude with glasses that he doesn't know interfering with his creative energy. If your platform for entertaining people includes you goin off and doing your thing and their is a guy next to you that you feel is cramping your ability to preform.. It can be frustrating to the performer.", "Not gonna lie, that's what I thought he was before this clip.", "It’s because they’re hot.", "So it's not gonna be fixed then", "Lol maybe think a little longer before typing next time. Dude's career is going to be fine, if not even blow up more because of the publicity.", "Seriously the truth right here. What kind of world are we in when a guy who can't figure out how to wear a belt is calling somebody else a nerd. Pull up your pants you disgusting troll...SMDH", "It’s not , it’s about his pocket", "This just in - rappers aren't rational intelligent people. Shock", "I mean there are plenty of circumstances where this logic could apply without any negative nor positive consequence to the dying/deceased.", "\"am A artist.\" Clearly not an educated one, guess high school drop out at absolute best. Also on the mike the whole time? You were trying to humiliate that guy. You are a bully and an asshole, hope your career is dead mother fucker.", "I honestly would not have known, since I stopped listening/caring about him since the incident... Huh", "https://finance.yahoo.com/video/travis-scott-stops-concert-astroworld-161200010.html\n\none google search you can find out he did stop the show (4-5 times) but carried on with the performance probably because he didnt undertsnad the severity of the situation which is still dumb as fuck but he's not a psychopath", "Its MY body and MY choice or its not. Otherwise it is text book cognitive dissonance.", "I love that everybody else on reddit is posting videos of artists stopping their concerts to help people. And this is a video of ANOTHER time Travis Scott was a dickhead at his concert.", "yes i got it thx", "To be fair, teaching kids that drugs are bad has not been very effective over the years. Credit for trying I suppose, but I know DARE has been proven to be pretty ineffective over the years.", "Ummmm I don’t think the anti-drug school programs work as well as you think they do… They are often failures.", "Yeah there are absolutely no other crowd crushes in other countries. Do you ever get tired of whining about America? Honestly what is your motive?", "He seems like good people.", "It was 2014/2015ish. Gotta admit though I was not a huge Tyler the Creator fan before Flowerboy so I'm not too sure when he did that style. The biggest artist I can think of that predates Travis in that style is Kid Cudi though which is one of his inspirations.\n\nHaha I have zero that come to mind as great. Travis Scott was less a wordsmith and more a vibe with a good consistency. Even when he was rapping well there was always a feature that did it a bit better. I'd say the quality is above something like Lil Pump but you're not wrong. He makes good quality party music. \n\nThat definitely makes more sense than I thought at first. I was just a bit taken back by the comparison in general since that is one of my favorite rap albums of all time.", "That's....not what happens, seeing as how they're invited back and welcomed to tons of venues, year after year.", "I remember when he an Louis CK both announced shows the same day the other year and people were up in arms about Louis being allowed to book shows but not Chris Brown who arguably was guilty of far worse behaviour.", "Well, if someone is absolutely guaranteed to die within a few hours, or is absolutely guaranteed to be a vegetable, I understand his viewpoint.\n\nShouldn waste resources on me if it's futile.\n\nHopefully he meant it like that.", "Travis Scott has the worst case of small dick syndrome I've ever witnessed.", "Well he did stop the concert when he saw someone who had feinted. He was up on a giant tower thing and I guess nobody made an effort to actually tell him on his crew. The people who were yelling to stop the show at the sides of the stage were telling the crew who should have relayed it to Travis Scott.\n\nOn top of that, it seems there was a bigger problem with overcrowding (and poor staffing) than anything. Some types of concerts get rough; Walls of Death and Mosh Pits, have been around forever and I've seen plenty of people brutally injured, but the difference is that there's some room and an individual can call to make space fairly easily, especially when it's clear there's an emergency. \n\nSo, the people who organized the show, whether it was the venue or Travis Scott (since sometimes performers actually completely rent out a venue and take charge of staffing themselves), are the ones that are clearly at fault.", "I have people skills. I am good at working with people. What the hell is wrong with you people!?", "Along similar lines, if you can endlessly name actors and actresses but not a single director, cinematographer, composer etc., it’s not film you love, it’s celebrity.\n\nDon’t give publicists power over your hard earned dollars.", "I’ll do you one better, why is a nerd?!", "I never knew who Travis Scott was cuz I'm old but he sure seems like a dick.", "Lmfao all these videos of him name calling and inciting violence only makes me realize how much of a clown travis Scott is. \"I'm an artist bro\" that seems like a stretch tho.", "This rules", "Fuck this guy", "The mainstream stuff is, but sure there's lots that isn't, which is why I'm asking.", "I once met a man who claimed that nothing was true. He was later found to be lying. \n\nAnyway, TIL and also I have been wrong all this time. Thanks for the correction.", "\"No disrespect\"\n\nCalls his ass nerdy", "Seee.\n\nTrash..", "This manchild oozes with confidence issues.\n\nSmall PP vibes.", "It’s all about ego Tbh. Many rappers have the biggest ego ever and it shows. It sure why people glorify and play into that. The best music comes from humble artists who just want to share", "What do people expect from a guy who wears his pants like he just took an epic shit in them? The musings of Ghandi?", "I kind of felt he meant that as a request to the photographer to not be disrespecting him. Sort of like \"don't disrespect me\".", "Shitty people give power to those who hate the same people they hate, especially if it lets them blame their own problems on those people.", "Everyone makes mistakes. Everyone deserves a second chance. Just so you know, the correct spelling is [Gandhi](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahatma_Gandhi).", "His career SHOULD be over, but this will be out of the news cycle within a week. I had never heard of the 2017 incidents causing paralysis until this incident occurred and his fanbase will protect him, as they have already claimed to be victims of \"cancel culture\"", "Never liked his cringe Garbo music. He should stick to his goofy fortnite concerts", "Gotta try", "Yeah look at those pants, dude looks like a fuckin tool", "No I listen to something called good, well done music.", "And Clarence parents have a real good marriage.", "The way he says \"OFF\" . What an entitled, evil little shit.", "I can’t stand when people walk around with their pants hanging like that. You really wanna be fucked in your ass don’t you.", "The fact that he did that cause it’s obvious his ego too big “I’m an artist I’m an artist” you just a camera guy and your taking up my spot light with your camera on my stage! That’s all I hear", "what a fucking prick", "Got he really is such a child like wow", "Nice deflection but this is one post in thousands that's getting downvoted for being a racist piece of shit.\n\nMost posts are pointing out he's being an asshole for speaking into the mic in front of a massive crowd while berating a dude just doing his job.\n\nIt also shows he's happy to stop the music over trivial shit that bothers him and undermines the whole he's in a trance when he performs bullshit I've seen.", "Never trust someone who has two first names.", "This dude doesn't qualify as a rapper", "Jacques Bermon Webster II\n\nIn other words - Clarence", "Remember the first time this went viral on Reddit and everyone loved it. You flip floppers", "You're so woke, dude", "See here’s the thing that people don’t want to hear:\n\nTravis Scott made the style of music he has popular. It wasn’t really that popular before. There were autotune hip hop yeah. But specifically the very very crunched vocal effects on top of pretty muddy beats. A lot of people when they first heard him thought the production was over the top and too full. We’d listened to some of those mixes and just been like “was this even mixed”. \n\nOf course fast forward to Astroworld, and he was able to put this style across a good variety of tracks. He has a unique voice when it’s with the autotune and vocal synth effects. \n\nHe’s been around for like ten years or more. Started doing music as a literal child. Of course it’s different than Wu Tang. But to act like Wu tang didn’t have a wave of artists after them that tried to sound like them, is ridick. If you go back to old Travis Scott, there aren’t many other people doing that freakish autotune and vocal effects in melodic rap, with dark muddy beats. Most of the time the autotune was used for upbeat often rnb inspired rap. Travis Scott was very much a pioneer in his genre. \n\nAll of this being said, his music is ultimately hit or miss. He cannot carry big ideas across his songs so his albums are one dimensional in meaning. Even when the color palette is diverse and he has Dean making everything sound good, it’s still too muddy. Like I can imagine Scott wanting Dean to undue changes that made the songs cleaner and less distorted. He hides behind his vocal effects because he’s not confident in the performance of his own voice. He’s never sounded raw. His beats have, but he hasn’t. His rap is inconsistent. He obviously has flows on sicko mode verse 1. Maybe No bystanders. But good flows from him are often not long lasting or not technical in his rap. He moves fast sometimes but he never has a good anchor for his bar. He never has a rhyme that’s like “oh shit” and you have to rewind. Except sicko mode. Listen to someone like Conway, who has the same rapping style across every song kinda like MF doom. And yet, every Conway bar is better than Travis Scott. It’s night and day. Travis Scott falls super hard when he’s juggling two different sounds to rhyme, when that’s like the basics of poetry. \n\n\nSo yeah, In conclusion, I think Travis Scott, at his inception tried to distance himself away from his contemporaries by going overboard on the vocal production. It covered up his inability to rap well, and distinguished him. He brought a vibe like Trap with his beats, but went more melodic with the autotune than someone like Future. It’s only now after he is the most popular, that he seems to be not different from his copiers. \n\nI’ll be honest, I like some of his features, but in general, he hasn’t had good music since Astroworld. His features are phoned in as well. His documentary is embarrassing and his personality is one of an 8 year old having fun lighting ants on fire and throwing rocks at cars. Very narcissistic. He had one goal his whole life since a boy: to be a musician. So when life granted him this after all of his hard work, he got some god figure bs in his head. Hes aware of his image. He also tries to incite a pile up in the documentary too by calling everyone over to his vehicle. Being his security sounds so terrible. Working for him in general sounds terrible. He yells at crew on stage when it could have been a simple conversation. He feels justified to “not put up with shit” when no shit was being thrown at him. \n\nI’m not gonna lie though, everytime I see that video of him harmonizing with autotune as the lifeless body is crowd surfed away, I can’t stop laughing. It’s very Travis Scott to think he’s being deep by adding funeral music or something. That video describes him perfectly.", "\"Unforgivable\"", "\\had\\\n\nftfy", "Come to think of it, I've never seen Elmo, Travis Scott and Bob Dole at the same time", "Getting real libertarian vibes here", "ASAP Rocky is better.", "It's a warning to anyone else who decides to have the same idea", "Isn’t this the guy who had 8 people die at his concert in Texas last week? I believe they were trampled. What a human", "It's a half assed apology", "so, I never heard of this guy until a few days ago. Is he mentally challenged?", "> you are clearly making all of this up.\n\nsorry professor I wasn't aware that a casual comment I made on /r/videos about an absent thought I had would count towards my PhD submission.", "Stops the show for the guy literally promoting his show. Keeps it going while security and rescue workers try to save lives. What a garbage human.", "There’s a lot of good rap in the past ten years mate. Sometimes people decide they aren’t going to like things because they are new. Just remember that every new act is inspired by old acts. \n\nAnd with the Griselda members gaining more and more popularity every year, I think old style hip hop is coming back.", "People still don't understand that music is subjective in 2021? I'm confused.", "It's crazy that the organisers didn't stop the show. That's what is so insane to me. That he surrounds himself with such a bunch of 'yes' men that they wouldn't tell him to stop a show even when all this is happening around him.", "But your comment said “not sure if /s”. So you didn’t get it until this comment told you. Smh", "Nah", "Such a garbage human", "The Chris Brown beating happened in public too, just fyi", "Griselda", "You say stop, but he’ll always have hundreds of millions of fans loving everything he does.", "do you write more about music? I would enjoy reading more of this. \nWho are your favourite artists?", "When I do a nice job cutting my lawn I call myself a Yartist", "Bruh. Good fucking list overall. I would remove some, and add others, but generally 👏. I'm sure it's not in any particular order, but I approve of Kendrick being up top.\n\nEdit: Also led me to some cool discoveries myself, thanks!", "Really. You think old hip hop heads will like this stuff? Come on man. All of these suck except J Cole who’s overrated, and Tyler, who’s been less rap in recent years. Still good but just a weird list to give someone who wants music like Wutang\n\nGRISELDA and it’s members are the new wave of old hip hop.", "Jesus fucking christ dude lol. Get off your high horse", "He complained, “I don’t know you” and that he was standing behind him. \n \nIt’s literally in the video you and angry mob apparently didn’t watch before reacting you.", "Have you ever pointed out to them the gigantic flaw in their thought process, that even according to their stupid logic everyone will eventually die.", "Travis Scott may be an asshole but he's fully within his rights to kick anyone not part of the performance off the stage. It could have been handled better but the photographer could have been more professional. It's not even a big deal. He got off with minimal ease.", "Shitty narcissist. Full stop. But since this is reddit \n\nDAE le (c)rap???", "Is it even arguable? Louis jerked his own dick off infront of women who he literally asked if he could. Sure he's a pervert, but I don't think it comes close to literally trying to beat Rhianna to death and it isn't arguable in the slightest", "Can confirm, music is 🔥🔥", "We both learned something!", "Seriously. Seems like every third post on Reddit this past couple of days has been concert footage lol \n\nIt’s like. Okay. We get it. we get it", "Nah, Travis Scott popularized this sound. It's honestly not the same as Tyler, at all. They're very different sounding. \n\nTravis Scott's production also influenced a lot of modern rap. He also wrote and produced for Kanye West for years before he gained the popularity he has now. \n\nHe's definitely largely influential with his craft. It might not be for you but it's incorrect to say he hasn't influenced the genre.", "Source? Not doubting just wanna show people", "Sources on people telling him to stop the concert because people were dying? Sources on him seeing those people? Or are you just assuming an artist is supposed to look at a crowd of 50K and pick apart the <1% who are getting fucked up? Dumbass", "I was so hoping you'd [post](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoj9lkSxExE) this one.", "The list /u/PoonaniiPirate made is very on point. But I would say that I wasn't just pointing out there's necessarily 'deep' rappers, but just those with actual artistic merit.\n\n(Also, I would add some artists like Lupe Fiasco and Hospin on that list).", "Literally unrelated", ">Stop idolising these people.\n\nStatements like these can be considered a dog whistle. By leaving the pronoun 'they' undefined, it attracts anyone to fill in the blank with their own particular prejudice.", "Right, like what sagging have to do with anything at all??? Travis Scott is a garbage person but sagging didnt cause that", "He puts out good music. At least IMO. I hate him with a passion and I do feel a little guilty for vibing to his music.", "The guy was an official videographer working for the festival Travis Scott was performing at. He was absolutely supposed to be there.", "Isn’t He the green Batman?", "Travis scott shld take a long walk off a high cliff.", "Why are people blaming him over the festival organizers like he’s supposed to have the eye of sauron on some shit. How the fuck did this year’s show look any different to him than the others? Go fuck yourself for putting it all on him, that’s fucked", "For what it’s worth, the video of him creepily singing ‘yeaaaaahhh’ while the crowd surf the guy out of the crowd is edited and starts late. He stopped the show specifically to get attention for that guy.", "I’m sure there are 300000 other artists you could vibe to", "Is he wearing chaps?", "I've worked easy 1000+ concerts in my career and more than half were amateur acts. I've seen bands kicked off stage/banned from festivals for less than this. Some music exec went all in on Travis because you can't get past the amateur level with that attitude (without loads of money and a record exec). If I was that camera guy I would have left the stage and give right around to the front barrier and took pictures right in front of his face. Also having a videographer on stage is a lot of the time part of the contract you sign with the venue.", "So he was always a giant piece of shit. Never even heard of this fucking worthless clown until his bullshit led to the deaths of 8 people, or is that number higher now? I thought I heard somewhere that more people died because of this ass disaster of a person.", "This is a cold take. A good exercise is to try to appreciate something from music you don’t like. People aren’t born dumbasses and choose to like bad music. Like how silly are you man? I had phd professors in biology who listened to Travis Scott. They were not dumbasses. \n\nIt’s okay to not like music, but it becomes cringe when you place yourself as the beacon of reasonable music taste. \n\nAlso, pieces of shit have made music forever. Elvis Presley was a pedo. John Lennon beat his wife. Look up all of the famous rock bands and yes they had underage groupies, did drugs, and some made good music. A lot made bad music too. It just isn’t played. There are trash Queen songs. \n\nAnyways, people aren’t dumbasses for the music they like.", "I mean, we're all perverts after we get consent, are we not?", "They are really fun tbh", "Guys seems like a real piece of shit.", "no, its not unfortunately. There are people defending this fucking shit stain of a person.", "He peaked in highschool? Huh. Like just think about that for a moment. Then look at your feed for Travis Scott. Silliest take ive heard all day.", "It kind of still is because this video has none of those things happening and calling someone a nerd isn’t exactly unique to whatever you consider “street rules”.", "He got confused, he meant scumbag", "I have thought about it much of the day and looked over my spotify rotation which is has quite a bit of Tourist LeMC, Stromae, Moraed, Nesbael and such.\n\nIt's not that I lack music to listen to it's mostly that aside from Lil Nas it doesn't really appeal to me.", "r/cringe", "He might be thinking of Tyga? Pretty sure he started dating Kylie when she was 17, they just didn’t make it official until she turned 18", "\"I'm an artist\"\n\nYeah and I'm Barack Obama.", "A reminder that you can block artists from playing on Spotify. Don’t support shitty people - vote with your wallet. \n\n[Block Problematic Artists ](https://time.com/5883622/block-artists-on-spotify-amazon-apple-music/)", "If we stopped defunding music programs in schools, maybe kids would find that they enjoy music with instruments.\n\nOn the other hand - it's music. I despise Scott's \"music,\" but I listen to deathcore/death metal and I'm sure plenty of his fans wouldn't enjoy my music either. I sincerely doubt that Scott's music has any significant effect on the behavior of his fans, just like I doubt that any of my music is turning people into violent murderers or whatever.", "Well just go ahead and group us all in there", "These are the heroes we choose because this is what we value. Money, fame and power, over knowledge, kindness and understanding.", "IM AN ARTIST", "So his IQ is lower then his pants.", "The only way to do this is not listen to any music or consume any media. I really don’t understand why you said shitty pop songs. As if Travis Scott making good music would justify people worshipping him. It’s just weird to decide for everyone else that his music is bad. Maybe that’s your opinion. And maybe just maybe, there are people out there who don’t really care about the content of an artists character, who just listen to music. \n\nI guarantee most of the Elvis fans in the day were not talking about how he’s a pedophile. They just liked the music. So it’s weird to pin a very complex problem on an “ass-backwards society”, that you yourself live in a participate in. Everybody thinks their way is right. But your just yelling at clouds in comment sections mate. You aren’t doing anything.\n\nAnd I bet you idolize some actors or musicians. Everybody chooses their idols and nobody chooses them because they are bad people or make bad music. I mean Reddit is obsessed with celebrities. Look at the thread you and I are commenting in. You couldn’t resist talking about it despite telling others to ignore it.", "Venues are going to start blacklisting him if he's going to be a liability", "There's some real racist undertones here", "What an asshole", "great men are rarely good men", "it's like the tiktok where it was showing the someone being put on a stretch probably dying then it just pans up to travis scott doing the robot. he doesn't care about anyone, not even his fans", "It's a bad video", "He didn't insult the lgbt community he's fine.", "He'll be fine as long as he doesn't hurt any gay people's feelings.", "Wow, isn't he just a piece of shit??...", "You look famished eat my downvote", "Omar Isaiah Betts", "Is that Russian state TV?", "Funny how this event is making him more famous", "hopsin sucks, that's juggalo music. logic is a cornball too.", "He said a genre that celebrates shittiness attracts shitty people, that's literally all there is to it", "I vibe to plenty of artists. Can’t really help what I enjoy, though. Same way my parents still enjoy Michael Jackson and David Bowie despite their history.", "Keep giving him lots of money 💰 🤑 the ultimate show of approval 👌", "Why anybody would pay money to hear that appalling garbage or take children to it is beyond me.", "Which song? What music do you normally listen to? \n\nTry ASTROTHUNDER. \n\nI’m not trying to defend Travis Scott. I just think it’s cringe when people try to claim that their music taste is superior to others.", "This kids, is the definition of a d-bag. Who the f is Travis Scott anyway? Never heard of him.", "What a piece of shit. How is he even relevant?", "His followers will support this.\n\n\nBullies idolized successful bullies.", "He asked, but this is also a situation of an uneven power dynamic. He had power over her, and failed to consider how that can make people afraid to say no. It may have been an honest mistake, but that doesn't make it right.\n\nStill, compared to Chris Brown clearly the lesser wrong.", "Who?", "I said with all due respect Mr. Dennit!", "You’re right you totally got me ahh shit I got fuckin got", "What do you like about him or his music in particular versus other musicians with the same autotuned style? To me it sounds very samey.", "“If you like anything post 2010 you have bad taste”", "Hopsin sucks. Worse than the standard joes and bitches rappers. \n\nHe preaches and sucks. Sounds just like redditors complaining about mumble rap and women and modern times. I honestly can’t stand hopsin.", "Going to a concert does not mean you idolize someone.", "It literally drives me nuts.", "Holy shit, what?! I keep finding out more fucked up shit about this every few hours.", "Imo, fifth grade was too young. They should have done it in 8th/9th and made it more intense like actually show people who are tweaking out and the reality of it. Fifth grade it felt more like a scheme to catch the parents. I specifically remember them saying to go to a teacher if you see certain signs of drug use in your home, including an everyday house spoon.", "Ima ardiss", "So to sum up… Travis Scott is a dick and should be charged with manslaughter. Got it", "He's literally a walking fake persona that promotes celebrity PR like everyone else... just because you like him doesn't make him any better", "I've only seen the band live 18 times since 2003, so I'm basically a rookie when it comes to Phish, but I've never witnessed any pretentiousness. What experiences led you to that position?", "Fuck this asshole ! He’s a punk!", "Charge him with manslaughter!", "Reddit", "HEY! DON'T TALK ABOUT EDM THAT WAY...", "So he CAN stop a concert. And he does NOTICE things happening at his shows. Interesting…", "I hope he gets arrested.", "> But specifically the very very crunched vocal effects on top of pretty muddy beats\n\nIt's muddy because the mixes on his tracks are usually so-so at best. You can achieve this sound right now by running all your channels into compressor and destroying your dynamic range. And that's nothing new in the rap and hip hop space. I mean, its almost an art nowadays to make a mix sound like a bedroom producer made it... but on purpose.\n\nI also agree on his general sound. Seems pretty lazy and really phoned-in on some tracks (even his own). I'm not a fan of his lyrical flow at all, but some of his tracks are decent.", "Here's the video for anyone interested https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMHT8jejPnY\n\nThey all have the same cookie cutter style and music that he may as well be ASAP too.", "What do you mean same autotuned style? He does have some copycats but maybe you just dont listen to this genre so everythig sounds same to you", "A verbal argument ensued and Chris Brown pulled the vehicle over on an unknown street, reached over Robyn F. with his right hand, opened the car door and attempted to force her out. Brown was unable to force Robyn F. out of the vehicle because she was wearing a seat belt. When he could not force her to exit, he took his right hand and shoved her head against he passenger window of the vehicle, causing an approximate one-inch raised circular contusion.\n \nRobyn F. turned to face Brown and he punched her in the left eye with his right hand. He then drove away in the vehicle and continued to punch her in the face with his right hand while steering the vehicle with his left hand. The assault caused Robyn F.'s mouth to fill with blood and blood to splatter all over her clothing and the interior of the vehicle.\n \nBrown looked at Robyn F. and stated, 'I'm going to beat the shit out of you when we get home! You wait and see!'\n \nThe detective said Robyn F. then used her cell phone to call her personal assistant Jennifer Rosales, who did not answer.\n \nRobyn F. pretended to talk to her and stated, 'I'm on my way home. Make sure the police are there when I get there.'\n \nAfter Robyn F. faked the call, Brown looked at her and stated, 'You just did the stupidest thing ever! Now I'm really going to kill you!'\n \nBrown resumed punching Robyn F. and she interlocked her fingers behind her head and brought her elbows forward to protect her face. She then bent over at the waist, placing her elbows and face near her lap in [an] attempt to protect her face and head from the barrage of punches being levied upon her by Brown.\n \nBrown continued to punch Robyn F. on her left arm and hand, causing her to suffer a contusion on her left triceps (sic) that was approximately two inches in diameter and numerous contusions on her left hand.\n \nRobyn F. then attempted to send a text message to her other personal assistant, Melissa Ford. Brown snatched the cellular telephone out of her hand and threw it out of the window onto an unknown street.\n \nBrown continued driving and Robyn F. observed his cellular telephone sitting in his lap. She picked up the cellular telephone with her left hand and before she could make a call he placed her in a head lock with his right hand and continued to drive the vehicle with his left hand.\n \nBrown pulled Robyn F. close to him and bit her on her left ear. She was able to feel the vehicle swerving from right to left as Brown sped away. He stopped the vehicle in front of 333 North June Street and Robyn F. turned off the car, removed the key from the ignition and sat on it.\n \nBrown did not know what she did with the key and began punching her in the face and arms. He then placed her in a head lock positioning the front of her throat between his bicep and forearm. Brown began applying pressure to Robyn F.'s left and right carotid arteries, causing her to be unable to breathe and she began to lose consciousness. \n \nShe reached up with her left hand and began attempting to gouge his eyes in an attempt to free herself. Brown bit her left ring and middle fingers and then released her. While Brown continued to punch her, she turned around and placed her back against the passenger door. She brought her knees to her chest, placed her feet against Brown's body and began pushing him away. Brown continued to punch her on the legs and feet, causing several contusions.\n \nRobyn F. began screaming for help and Brown exited the vehicle and walked away. A resident in the neighborhood heard Robyn F.'s plea for help and called 911, causing a police response. An investigation was conducted and Robyn F. was issued a Domestic Violence Emergency Protective Order.", "So why do these people like him again?", "The only time this even approaches reasonable is mass casualty triage with limited resources. You focus the resources on those you know you can save. Terrible but if only 3 surgeons and 10 needing surgery, you work on the most critical but recoverable first, and do what you can for the rest.\n\nEdit: TBC, you're friend sounds like a sociopath. Stopping and getting out of the way isn't a resource.", "Now I want a YouTube channel of Charles Dance as Tywin roasting the shit out of people.", "Please stop. Eminem threatened to kill his ex wife multiple times. He disrespected his community constantly in old music, interviews, and stage performances. He’s a dick to his fans in real life and was proud of it. \n\nLike we need to stop talking about Eminem. He’s a has been. Had some great genre defining records and hasn’t had anything close in the past ten years. Nowadays, he’s the equivalent of bad rap in my mind. Rap for people who think they like rap. \n\nYes he promotes being clean, but then he has lines about not being clean even as recent as his newest album. He’s a bad bro. A very brittle shell of his former past. He’s not a really good dude. And what he rapped about very much defined him back in the day.", "I don't know who Travis Scott is and now I don't want to.", "Travis Scott is an ugly little bitch", "A verbal argument ensued and Chris Brown pulled the vehicle over on an unknown street, reached over Robyn F. with his right hand, opened the car door and attempted to force her out. Brown was unable to force Robyn F. out of the vehicle because she was wearing a seat belt. When he could not force her to exit, he took his right hand and shoved her head against he passenger window of the vehicle, causing an approximate one-inch raised circular contusion.\n \nRobyn F. turned to face Brown and he punched her in the left eye with his right hand. He then drove away in the vehicle and continued to punch her in the face with his right hand while steering the vehicle with his left hand. The assault caused Robyn F.'s mouth to fill with blood and blood to splatter all over her clothing and the interior of the vehicle.\n \nBrown looked at Robyn F. and stated, 'I'm going to beat the shit out of you when we get home! You wait and see!'\n \nThe detective said Robyn F. then used her cell phone to call her personal assistant Jennifer Rosales, who did not answer.\n \nRobyn F. pretended to talk to her and stated, 'I'm on my way home. Make sure the police are there when I get there.'\n \nAfter Robyn F. faked the call, Brown looked at her and stated, 'You just did the stupidest thing ever! Now I'm really going to kill you!'\n \nBrown resumed punching Robyn F. and she interlocked her fingers behind her head and brought her elbows forward to protect her face. She then bent over at the waist, placing her elbows and face near her lap in [an] attempt to protect her face and head from the barrage of punches being levied upon her by Brown.\n \nBrown continued to punch Robyn F. on her left arm and hand, causing her to suffer a contusion on her left triceps (sic) that was approximately two inches in diameter and numerous contusions on her left hand.\n \nRobyn F. then attempted to send a text message to her other personal assistant, Melissa Ford. Brown snatched the cellular telephone out of her hand and threw it out of the window onto an unknown street.\n \nBrown continued driving and Robyn F. observed his cellular telephone sitting in his lap. She picked up the cellular telephone with her left hand and before she could make a call he placed her in a head lock with his right hand and continued to drive the vehicle with his left hand.\n \nBrown pulled Robyn F. close to him and bit her on her left ear. She was able to feel the vehicle swerving from right to left as Brown sped away. He stopped the vehicle in front of 333 North June Street and Robyn F. turned off the car, removed the key from the ignition and sat on it.\n \nBrown did not know what she did with the key and began punching her in the face and arms. He then placed her in a head lock positioning the front of her throat between his bicep and forearm. Brown began applying pressure to Robyn F.'s left and right carotid arteries, causing her to be unable to breathe and she began to lose consciousness.\n \nShe reached up with her left hand and began attempting to gouge his eyes in an attempt to free herself. Brown bit her left ring and middle fingers and then released her. While Brown continued to punch her, she turned around and placed her back against the passenger door. She brought her knees to her chest, placed her feet against Brown's body and began pushing him away. Brown continued to punch her on the legs and feet, causing several contusions.\n \nRobyn F. began screaming for help and Brown exited the vehicle and walked away. A resident in the neighborhood heard Robyn F.'s plea for help and called 911, causing a police response. An investigation was conducted and Robyn F. was issued a Domestic Violence Emergency Protective Order.", "Okay Randy. Stop shitting yer britches.", "Everything’s coming up Travis these days", "bro everyone thought it looked stupid when they were kids in the 90s and 00s, and everyone still thinks it looks stupid now", "As FD Signifier says on his [Dave Chapelle video essay](https://youtu.be/S42DJr95Dfw), you can't actually cancel rich people.", "Fuck this talentless, auto tune dependent twat and his followers.", "So how am I supposed to say I don’t like drama then? Is it just one of those things you he silent about? I also don’t like broccoli either but I’m afraid to say that because people might think I actually do like broccoli like in your drama example.", "Tf are you talking about, I voiced my opinion on terrible music and the idiots that listen to it. Dont get a hard on whenever you see a chance to become a smartass on reddit. Just like you have an opinion that your professor is not a dumbass, I have my own. \n\nIts hilarious, you were probably in such a hurry to type your comment that you didnt even realize you are going off on your own tangent.", "He did stop the concert. Not sure why nobody is sharing this.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/GS4JnvZ3OD0", "Less, those people are at least members of your community and could have a view on local issues.", "Dude seriously fuck that homophobic piece of shit r/fucktravisscott", "This dude is a fucking idiot.", "People idolizing them are trash. Remember dave chapelle on lil wayne? I bet you at least a few dozen of these shit-for-brains thought it was a bummer they stopped the concert period, and that pussies or bitches shouldn't have gone in the pit.", "Sooooo many kids, literal children go to these things. So happy our youth gets to grow up with such awesome role models, they’re so “hard”", "Was this at Altamont?", "Who is this guy? I have never heard of him before but he’s apparently playing sold out stadium shows? I’ve been seeing him all over Twitter/Reddit/Facebook/TikTok, and the general consensus seems to be they everybody hates him.", "Heysel Stadium Disaster", "They all sound the same. Even if they dont they talk about the same shit. I listen to rap but not mumble rappers like travis scott. And hes a copycat, dont talk like hes the original autotune singer", "my local radio station made a similar comparison with travis scott and fred durst from woodstock 1999. they both feed the aggressive fans to become wilder and wilder. and we all know what happened in woodstock 1999.", "Making fun of sagging pants is not the same as hating hip hop.\n\nSag was a dumb fashion trend from the late 90s. It was meant to imitate prison inmates who were often given loose fitting clothing. The trend originated from kids cosplaying as inmates.", "There's people who genuinely believe the Earth is flat.\n\nNo matter how dumb the comment, we will always need the /s.", "Ah, but the point wasn’t to insult him, it was to get him off stage…", "It was in relation to covid precautions. \n\nI appreciate people trying to be charitable with interpretation, but they definitely meant it in the most psychopathic way possible.", "Good list. I'd also add Hopsin. He comes across as preachy and pretentious sometimes but he's way talented and raps about how rap sucks now for pretty related reasons.", "That's the \"silent\" in silent majority. \n\nFuckin cowards.", "People who believe that often believe in the just-world fallacy. It’s incredibly easy to disprove.", "Whoah, hot take. Whatcha doing about it but bitching, bud?", "You overestimate the intelligence of the average Travis Scott fan. His career will be more than fine due to these braindead idiots that will inevitably keep supporting him.", "\"me me me me me me me me me me me \"- autotuned", "😂😂 no kidding.", "Dude needs to be locked up", ">you got upset.\n\nThis is the issue right here. Instead of reading what someone says or actually watching and evaluating a video or comment you rush to the most extreme exaggerated interpretation. \n\n \n\nYou got your upvotes and I guess that's all that matters.", "Lol…. \n\nDoes getting an abortion or not affect the transmission rate of a contagious disease?\n\nYou act like vaccine mandates are for vaccines that give us shit and giggles. Nobody wants to be forced to take something lol. But given the circumstances, nobody wants their granny to die as well. I’m okay giving up some of my freedoms, to effectively fight a contagious virus. \n\nPro choice to abortion is a decision that affects a much smaller amount of people. \n\nThis isn’t cognitive dissonance. It’s not even comparable and it’s kind of stupid you brought this up.", "He is utter trash.", "Tell me more, wise man!", "Serious question to anybody who wears your pants like that...why do you do it? Serious question.", "I hate cancel culture but this motherfucker needs to get cancelled.", "I actually just said something similar about Hopsin.", "My black friend lets me say the N word, so that means I can say it to everyone else!\n\n/s", "Ayoo 💀💀", "Influence doesn't mean \"for the better\" just like evolution doesn't mean \"for the better\".", "Thats part of it right there. What other fanbase has to count shows to have a meaningful opinion. Like why did you even tell me that? It's some kind of weird Phish thing. The pretentious assholes make it so you gotta defend your credentials before you can speak on anything.", "I wonder how many people shitting on Travis were also Xxxtentacion fans", "Not sure if /s", "Get a rope...", "Louie did nothing wrong. He fucking asked for permission and was granted permission.... I guess it's cringey cuz he looks like your best friend's middle aged dad, but other than that, why the fuck did he have to get #metoo'd? I thought that was for fucking sexual predators that forced themselves onto people. Louie is harmless n I miss his show....", "Travis Scott encourages his fans to break the law and crash the stage and has been kicked off and banned from performing of events due to this.\n\nWill also kick official event employees taking publicity stills off the stage.\n\nIt's almost like he's some kind of asshole.", "Dude no it doesnt. No rapper would ever make it with the name Jacques and he knows it.", "People say that shit because they think it absolves of any responsibility for what they’ve said, so when you inevitably get offended it’s your own fault.", "well there are marc rebillets who stop the show for helping a person whos having a seizure, and then there are travis scotts, who apparently dont mind dead people, but do mind \"nerdy ass\" videographers doing their work.", "This weekend I learned he even existed. I’d rather have not.", "Aesop Rock's music is 50% deconstruction of his life and 50% funny life stories\n\nSome of my favorite songs from him are Kirby, which is about his therapy cat; and Grace, a song about him refusing to eat vegetables as a child\n\nhttps://youtu.be/xiW7CtdSC_c\n\nThis gives you a pretty good idea what Aesop's character is like", "It’s almost like Travis Scott has been an asshole all along, I’m just so surprised, this came out of nowhere… 🤔", "Any man who must say \"i am an artist\" is no true artist", "Slipknot is just that shitty. The people need to know.", "No it’s not. A vaccine mandate affects more than just your body. When decisions you make about your body affect many people, like with a contagious virus, you have to stop yelling about your body and your choice. It’s about you only. \n\nMy truck driver died last month from covid. He left a wife and a four year old son. The covid outbreak among our truck drivers started from him. His decision to not get vaccinated, put five other drivers at home or in hospital. It left his son without a father. It left our warehouse without truck drivers for two weeks where our stores had late trucks or no trucks at all. It affects more than just your body mate. \n\nIt’s not comparable. An abortion may not even affect anyone except the person who gets it.", "Also known as Glenn Danzig Syndrome.", "Abortion affects your body. \n\nVaccine affects your body and the bodies of others because you are not transferring the disease to them. It’s more than just your body. \n\nSo please stop inserting points that don’t work.", "Unfortunately, some people will see this as plus because he \"doesnt give any shits\" and they want to live vicariously through angst.", "10", "Nothing you say should get you imprisoned, barring direct calls to violence.", "Unfortunately not but now you're making me rethink my process", "I think it was \"eeeeeeee\" this time", "Society is becoming entirely too hedonistic and post modern.", "Dude has apparently no redeeming qualities based on everything I've read or heard since Astroworld, and astroworld wasn't even the first time he did something like that.", "Who's Travis Scott?", "Jacques Bermon Webster II (born April 30, 1991), known professionally as Travis Scott (formerly stylized as Travi$ Scott), is an American rapper, singer, songwriter, and record producer. His stage name is the namesake of a favorite uncle combined with the first name of one of his inspirations, Kid Cudi (whose real name is Scott Mescudi).In 2012, Scott signed his first major-label contract with Epic Records.\n\nMore details here: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travis_Scott> \n\n\n\nThis comment was left automatically (by a bot). If I don't get this right, don't get mad at me, I'm still learning!\n\n[^(opt out)](https://www.reddit.com/r/wikipedia_answer_bot/comments/ozztfy/post_for_opting_out/) ^(\|) [^(delete)](https://www.reddit.com/r/wikipedia_answer_bot/comments/q79g2t/delete_feature_added/) ^(\|) [^(report/suggest)](https://www.reddit.com/r/wikipedia_answer_bot) ^(\|) [^(GitHub)](https://github.com/TheBugYouCantFix/wiki-reddit-bot)", "The other day he was doing a fawning bit for the announcement of Real Housewives and the reveal that it would be in Dubai.\n\nWhen it comes to celebrity culture, his show is literally part of the marketing.", "He might be a top 3 worst person of 2021. I knew nothing about him before this week other than he was dating some variation of a Kardashian and is a musician. \n\nAfter listening to his music i can cross musician off his bio and dating any a person with Kris Jenner’s bloodline is definitely a strike in your character bc they get saddled up to men who have lots of issues.", "That's one way to see it. Another way to see it is that \"indirect\" calls for violence have probably caused more deaths in the history of humanity than \"direct\" ones exactly because they pass as less threatening and therefore spread.", "There's literally video of multiple people climbing onto the stage pleading to stop the show because people are hurt/dying.", "Like him or hate him Stephen Colbert shouldn't be on that list because he has absolutely done things which have made guests publicists mad and pushed the envelope, but the others I agree with.", "Travis Scott really bollock'd everything up. Fortnite Event. McDonalds Combo. Nike shoe deal. TENET. One of the first people in the world to get a PS5.", "Pull your fucking pants up.", "What really gets me is how much his music just objectively sucks. There are soooo many other great rappers out there. TS is not it.", "Christ, I get it reddit, you all hate the guy. Now for those of us who DGAF about any of this, mind shutting the fuck up about it?\n\nSeriously, this is absurd. Nothing but concert drama for days.", "No disrespect", "Travis Scott is a piece of poo", "No kidding. I have seen the name in passing but have never seen him or listened to any of his supposed music until his murder festy. Seems like a punk that's about to find out he is no longer above the law.", "And Clarence lives at home with both parents, and Clarence parents have a real good marriage", "When he says \"no disrespect\" I get the feeling he means \"don't disrespect me\".", "Wealth privilege and fame privilege. The rich skeet on almost everything short of cold blooded 1st degree murder, and even then you can't be too sure.", "No. You’re just in the age of information where anyone can see almost anything happening anywhere.", "I had no idea who the fuck he is before this and on first seeing the headlines wondered how a country music concert got so rowdy that people were trampled to death.", "Your generation🤔🤔needs to blackball this guy. Let’s see if you are all committed enough to do it. He is a loser through and through. He is classless and a bully here and did nothing to help all the kids who were getting crushed at his concert. Loser", "You can come out and say it, a vastly left-leaning website is overwhelmingly racist towards a misunderstood creative geniuses.\n\nGive me a break. He is a piece of shit and so are you for defending him because you like his trash.", "As Dan Le Sac and Scroobius Pip sang. \n\nThou shalt not put musicians and\nrecording artists on ridiculous pedestals\nno matter how great they are or were.\nThe Beatles: Were just a band.\nLed Zepplin: Just a band.\nThe Beach Boys: Just a band.\nThe Sex Pistols: Just a band.\nThe Clash: Just a band.\nCrass: Just a band.\nMinor Threat: Just a band.\nThe Cure: Were just a band.\nThe Smiths: Just a band.\nNirvana: Just a band.\nThe Pixies: Just a band.\nOasis: Just a band.\nRadiohead: Just a band.\nBloc Party: Just a band.\nThe Arctic Monkeys: Just a band.\nThe Next Big Thing... JUST A BAND.", "Fuck you Jacques.", "I blame drugs. These guys are always doing drugs they can’t handle. An their energy is negative. So don’t be surprised when bad things happen around them.", "Shitty because you don't like their music or shitty because someone died?", "Because Reddit is currently on its “rap bad, rock good” kick where it demeans black art because a single artist fucked up. Every thread is the same “I went to a insert rock band concert in year and the lead singer not only stopped the show when he saw something was wrong but he also asked if they were okay after. This guy and his supposed “music” are trash.” It’s a lot of dog whistles, blatant misunderstandings about Hip-Hop and this situation, and thinly veiled racism. Travis has a history of being an asshole and he definitely contributed to this incident, but acting like he is literally Hitler and that anyone who likes his music is braindead is just sheer ignorance.", "If he had just give the ferret a run like every other thirsty person we wouldn't even be talking about it.", "My bad, could you link it?", "I was thinking it was Travis Barker for far too long this weekend.", "Travis needs to charge his iPhone", "Logic, NF, Run the Jewels, Lil Wayne. Run the Jewels is made up of a couple incredibly eloquent people with amazing lyrics.", "this guy doesn't deserve fame. notice how he offends one of the same color", "Agreed. Colbert is faarrr above Kimmel and E! They're not even in the same category. \n\nFor one he is actually occasionally intellectually challenging, I don't remember the Colbert Report ever giving large time or attention to people like the cardashians or others like that, it was actually about real events with real opinions and information. Does not deserve to be lumped in with the likes of those others.", "r/fucktravisscott fucking degenerate.", "No disrespect, but yuh muthas a hoor!", "Fuck Travis Scott", "It’s unfortunately going to be this way as long as young people appreciate art and entertainment.\n\nWhich is awesome - it gives the people who truly need that outlet, and people will use it to influence amazing things they go on to make. Whether that’s through visual art, writing, maybe it will carry through to an academic outlet.\n\nThe part that is going to ruin it for everyone, for ever, is that terrible people are often idolized because of this. Literally modern day royalty for the worrrrst shitty people. It’s insane.\n\nBut fortunately there are some truly amazing celebrities helping people. But we don’t hear much about them…", "My mom had a drunk fan fall on her from a section above her … at a Springsteen concert. It happens far more than it should.", "“Fuck off nerd, no dis respect, I’m an artist” this dude is the fucking worst. He auto tune songs incomprehensible lyrics. What a fucking tool.", "Everytime,\n\n\"No disrespect!\"\n\nProceeds to fully disrespect the guy", "More and more just keeps coming out. This guy's career might very soon be over.", "same, i listened to a few of his songs to see if i had heard any of them. they were all shit. i don't know how anyone likes his \"music\".", "If this man pulled up his pants we would all see he is actually wearing capri's", "this travis scott fella seems like a real jerk", "DARE taught me what drugs are, what they do, and where to buy them. Very informative.", "Hopefully this incident severely damages his career. Garbage human being.", "Can't tell if you misspelled \"flock\" or just know his fans more intimately than I do.", "https://youtube.com/shorts/uM1tLc743fo?feature=share\n\nThis one?", "He stopped multiple times to tell the crowd to calm down, what happened wasn't his fault.", "I will never not see his name and think it's a country singer", "Wait wtf happened?", "'911 emergency how can we help you?' \n\n'I'm in the hospital, my wife is giving birth and some hired outside security won't let me in. In about 60 seconds I'm going to pick up this chair and start a brawl. I'm going to get my ass beat but I have to try something. Please send paramedics.'", "If there's one guy who needs to get his fucking teeth kicked in, it's Travis Scott, the guy gets off on treating literally everyone like absolute shit.", "You can't punish one person for the actions of another and its unjustifiable to punish someone for holding an unpopular opinion.", "Is he wearing his underwear over his pants?", "God DAMN people have terrible musical taste lol.\n\nThat feel when idiocracy is in motion.\n\nIt's as if antisocial tendencies became an entire musical genre, and it's the most popular genre. The symphony of the common vermin, the language of pests and rodents, flailing about against the dim realization of their own limitations.\n\nIt is a curse being as brilliant as I am, in a world filled with trash. But of course, most will fail to see the obvious until it is obviously too late. The reason civilization fails is because people like me are uncommon - most people are like THIS, like YOU.\n\nI promise to do my best to gently and peacefully counteract this with the awesome majesty of the mind this universe has given me. I can enlighten you, if only you have the wisdom to listen. I can help you develop taste. I can help you to become part of the solution, instead of another instance of the problem.\n\nAgainst the tidal forces of your mediocrity, the world has provided ME as one of the answers. I've got so much work to do 😊", "Naw thats not what his team of lawyers told him to say", "That’s* the guy McDonalds sponsored to give me ads about what he gets there?", "More than one body like an unborn child for instance?", "Mike Tyson is a convicted rapist and that doesn't seem to follow him around either", "Who the fuck is Travis Scott (yes I could Google). I have literally never heard of this artist before this weekend.", "kind of racist of you to assume that", "This is America, if there is profit in it they won't. Hell we even know that if he beats his girlfriend on camera they still won't stop his shows. The only people who can hurt him are his fans, and they are very dumb people.", "How are pieces of shit like this popular? Don’t you dare say his music that’s even worse", "Great analysis. Spot on.", "You can criticize someone of race without it being racist. Yes racist assholes like /u/Darigaz44 will in their brain dead way jump on the bandwagon but that doesn't mean the rest of the discourse around Travis Scott's actions are racist.\n\nAlso who gives a fuck about nasty, there are kids dead, Travis Scott does not deserve the slightest bit of civility in my mind. He lost that when he said fuck that shit after being informed of the crisis and starting up the music again.\n\nAlso the[ top post on r/music](https://www.reddit.com/r/Music/comments/qozw4r/for_anyone_defending_the_trash_that_is_travis/) is a list of incidents of musicians stopping their concerts to help people out. It's a list of 10 and 2 of them are POC, A$ap Rocky and lil pump. I wouldn't say it's only white bands being linked and I think it's more of a case that there's a small sample size of these types of incidents.", "One may argue it's not shitty english but AAVE, which has coherent grammatical rules", "it wasnt an audience member it was the concert videographer.", "i'm picking up some real racist subliminal overtone vibe readings on my raceometer when I scan your comment tho. watch yourself or i'll report you to the authorities", "This Travis Scott hate circlejerk is hilarious!", "This weekend my beliefs were confirmed that he is a piece of shit. He seems to talk down to everyone like he's some fucking God. But his autotune is on point. So he's got that going for him.", "Push past security and force the issue to become a public affair.\n\nI'm sure that'll look really good for the hospital.", "That video is altered. If you watch the 10-20 seconds before he starts singing yeeaaahh you’ll see that he was the one who pointed the man out to security and said something like ayo this guy needs help someone get him out of here. What happened was tragic but people seem the be hellbent on destroying Travis as if he organized the show by himself.", "As devil's advocate, why isn't there some kind of blind or curtain or something with a camera hole so there's not visual attention drawn away from the artist? Seems like it would be a basic measure not only for ass-holes like Travis Scott but also just... the immersion of the event.", "As devil's advocate, why isn't there some kind of blind or curtain or something with a camera hole so there's not visual attention drawn away from the artist? Seems like it would be a basic measure not only for ass-holes like Travis Scott but also just... the immersion of the event.", "Nerds built the net. Piss off nerds, no net for you!", "Didn't he go to prison for years?", "Why continue to speak into the mic though? Oh, because you know your fans like it when you treat people like shit.\n\nFuck this piece of human filth.", "I just love it when people start to open their eyes to the fact that artists are human and not gods. Not saying what he's doing is right at all, but this is what humans can become like when they get rewarded for bad behavior", "I say both but you can pick", "Mentok commands you to procede, with your case!", "You can’t call someone “nerdy ass” and follow up with “no disrespect”", "If he continues on this path he might get what he deserves if he doesn't end up cancelled or in jail after the last \"stunt'. One of these days an unstable person is going to get backstage and go at him with a weapon. Dude is too stupid to realise he's creating a threat to himself.", "Why would I when I don't like the stuff I've already heard?\n\nI'm here trying to broaden my horizons are you're just trying to take a shot at me? Okay.", "He could've just said all of that to the guy, they were feet away from each other.... Scott is a dick", "Imagine Jacques Webster in victorian gentleman suit and top hat with microphone cane. That's like 1000x times cooler than whatever his fashion is.", "How long did it take for all of dababys shows to be cancelled after his incident?", "You clearly have no clue what auto tune actually is. If you think overdriven auto tune in hip hop is pitch compensation rather than an effect that sounds good to people, then I doubt you can hold a note yourself.", "Your friend is a sociopath and isn’t bothering to hide it.", "I imagine when he’s by himself he’s a very sad person.", "His career is almost certainly not over", "He will always find someone, money opens a lot of doors", "This reads like buttery males.\n\nDo you always assume everything is about racism?", "https://vm.tiktok.com/ZM8CN1UEe/\n\n\nhttps://vm.tiktok.com/ZM8CLsS6b/", "This is the topic i was responding in 'Travis Scott stops a performance to kick an official concert videographer off stage, calls him a nerd\" maybe im in another thread?", "Upvote but downvote struggle. What a prick", "Stating a reduced amount of exposure to inform the wisdom of an opinion is a relatively normal phenomenon in a reasonable discussion. It offers the understanding that my belief isn't rooted in a wealth of experience and gives a common ground for discourse. For instance, if you asked a question about skydiving and I told you it's always been an incredible rush and a unique bonding experience, without informing you I've only done it twice, you might be inclined to give my statement more credence than it rightly deserves. For some people more information is golden, for others it's pretentious.\n\nThat being said, I may have misunderstood your point and thought you had experience with this outside of the internet, where it's pretty easy to see everyone as being pretentious, as their intentions are less than obvious. Most of us just love the unique experience brought by a band like Phish. For me, I never feel more at peace than I do at a Phish show, it has always felt like coming home at every stage of my adult life. They are probably the largest influence to my trajectory of musical taste since I first heard them a couple decades ago, and I love to participate or witness that in people around me. \n\nMaybe we seem pretentious, but a large plurality just love the music and the atmosphere. I hope you don't let your internet experiences dampen that potential, and if you ever do feel like someone is leaning that way, you can probably resolve it just by engaging them a bit. Or don't, there are mountains of amazing music and fan bases out there, and I'm sure you have a good idea what's worthwhile for you.\n\nBest of luck stranger, and whatever you do, take care of your shoes.", "He's not exactly wrong here. This guy is standing in the middle of the god damn stage. You can't get in the way.", "Anyone and everyone in the Kardashian orbit needs to be be permanently cancelled. \n\nThanks in advance for the avalanche of downvotes.", "Maybe these asshole actions by this guy was one reason the audience got OUT OF CONTROL!", "Had a friend who was hired to take pictures at a Chris Brown concert. He was given nearly the same treatment. Chris Brown then punched another photographer later that night.", "Are you really trying to tell me that Travis Scott, the multimillion dollar professional artist that planned the event, who had literally all of the power to do something in that catastrophe, and was fully capable of stopping the show at any point isn't equally liable? Fuck off, and fuck Travis Scott.", "I loathe him so much. I cannot understand how anyone would want to endorse this psycho or support him. He is a bully and just an overall bad person. Straight up trash human being right here.", "Could you share the link? I've seen multiple references to this but so far I haven't been able to find the video.", "I didn’t even know he existed until this all happened.", "Can you explain why you're trying to deflect by crying 'racism'?", "The closest I ever came to endorsing anything Travis Scott was when I got the Cactus Jack meal at McDonalds.", "Everything I've seen of Travis Scott in the last 48 hours paints a pretty damning picture of him being a massive piece of shit.", "When your music is shit, all you have left is Ego.", "BIPOC redditor here. Don’t let racists make you defend trash. Of course they are going to take the opportunity to bash non-whites. But that doesn’t mean you have to take the bait.", "I couldn't agree more.", ">And he was notified of the situation and asked to stop\n\nI've yet to see one source saying that but it doesn't stop people from repeating it.\n\nA bunch of people died because of a mon stampeding and then mob mentality runs wild on reddit without a hint of irony", "They just beat the shit out of you and nothing will happen to them, because the law doesn’t care about us lowly paupers", "Friggin nerds am I rite", "Because assault and battery only sticks when it's not black on black violence. But you're screwed if you ever LOOK at a woman wrong or say anything that could be remotely construed as a gender joke. What a fucked up country we live in.", "Yeah same here.", "I did mean flock but that's funny.", "Getting the shit beaten out of you can be quite a statement, and draws attention. A headline invoking Beyonce, bribed security, and not being able to witness your child being born would definitely grab attention.", "What you're saying is they think Death note is a documentary.", "Because he was in a position of power over the person he asked. Its not really what he did that was wrong so much as who he did it to. If it was a random chick he met at a club thats fine, but it was people who indirectly worked for him.", "You're literally trying to blame everyone but Travis Scott.\n\nAnd now here you are, trying to deflect what you're doing onto me. Lmfao. That's the only tactic you have.", "> saying stop caring about the opinions of celebrities.\n\nYea, but in times of turmoil, I need to know what Ja Rule thinks of it.", "\"With all due respect\" just makes the burn worse because it implies that you are due no respect whatsoever on top of whatever diss you have received.", ">Vince Staples\n\nI was really impressed with [his response](https://www.stereogum.com/1903590/vince-staples-responds-to-the-lady-who-was-really-upset-about-him/news/) to the internet freaking out about that mom reading the lyrics to norf norf", "Taking advantage of someone that you have power over is not harmless.", "Jacques Bermon Webster II, didn't even get a cool middle name", "I wonder if his career will hit a slump or get better because of this.", "Using Aaron Rodgers as the current example. They could have access to the best doctors and get still opt to get advice from people like Joe Fucking Rogan", "Why is it that you're giving special privilege to a person because of their skin color? That sounds pretty racist.", "In the past, yes, but he’s pretty much a star fucker now. He seems too comfortable in his rich, famous guy who talks to other rich, famous people about being rich and famous guys role for me lately.", "Drugs are really excellent", "Slander is spoken. In print, it's libel. \nFTFY", "Then lets 8 people die", "That reporter was complimenting him", "He can see the crowd. Travis was even calling out some dude hanging in a tree wayy in the back at that exact same show. He saw a lot of what was going on. Did he see everything? Obviously not.", "It's traditionally a man's name but societally, it's become more associated with women. Same as Ashley or Evelyn.", "But money", "narcissistic cunt", "This is heartbreaking to read again. What a piece of shit human.", "Did Travis Scott like get frozen or something like Disney for like 15 years and then wake back up thinking this was like 1990 or something? It's just very obscure how he acts on stage knowing that we live in a time of acceptance for a lot of different things and he's literally acting completely opposite to what I'm assuming most of his fans expected of him.", "Yes and has to register as a sex offender \n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Tyson", "Hi I have some harsh insults for you I have no reasons to say beyond petty maliciousness, hope you don't take them the wrong way", ">states the most popular on Reddit \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n>\"iNcOmInG dOwNvOtEs\"", "He seems delightful.", "Explain.", ">rappers who have lyrics full of hate\n\nSeems like that's the majority of rap these days. I'm never surprised when shit like this happens and it turns out to be a rapper.", "LMAOOOO", "Why are you out here using the phrase \"the one black man\"?\n\n>This is a time for you to reflect inwardly on your possible biases\n\nFam, you need to inwardly reflect on your possible biases. You're giving special privilege to a person over their skin color. That's not okay.\n\n>but instead you're going to respond with another dumb deflection, so get on with it.\n\nOh, oh! You got called out on deflecting so now you're trying to accuse me of deflecting! Classic!", "I'd say his fuck-up was when he forgot he was also her boss. \n\nI don't think what he did makes him a bad person either. He made a mistake, took responsibility for it, apologized for the position he put her in, and didn't try to discredit or turn it back on her. Which is better than most responses given by men who did worse. His career will recover. \n\nThat being said, an apology can't completely right the wrong and facing consequences for his actions certainly doesn't make him a victim.", "I think to be a good talkshow host, you have to sell an image of familiarity. I personally am not buying the image he's selling. The only 'celebrities' I put faith in are independent people on YouTube. And most of them more or less end up bending the knee once they hit a certain level. I think advertisers will inevitably mess up any 'good' image by proxy unless they start relaxing and speaking real human. Colbert isn't allowed to speak candidly. None of them are. Once you try to pander to people who pay you, the art is lost and you become another person collectiing a check. That's not inherently bad. But it is less than creative. Conan seems to treat everyone well. So high marks for him.", "Tbf that video was heavily edited to enhance the akwardness. Zillakami (the artist) doesn’t strike me as a douche, quite the opposite.\nFame has always and will always go to some people’s head and make them dickwads. It’s not like the previous generations rockstars were angels.", "Oh. Well, try harder. You aren't very persuasive.", "It's truly saddening that such a bully has so much clout and is obviously a \"role model\" for so many kids right now.", "Well they were probably dying at that time. Had he stopped it when he was first told there were problems around 9:30 (according to the police) then we would likely have less injuries/deaths.", "Ironically you downvoted me with your childish comment you grotesque karma whore.", "I guess you missed the part where he's going \"Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.\" while standing over a person that's dying.\n\nYour biases really are something else. :)", "I mean I understand that. But is a person in power never allowed to have any romantic encounters with people they work with? Probably not lol. But I mean, he literally asked. And I can't picture him being pushy about it or anything. I imagine he tried his best to get his kicks while being respectful to the chicks involved. But still got tagged worse than Chris Brown lol.", "The people who idolize him use Twitter, not Reddit.", "KICKIN THE CAMERMAN OFF OF MY STAGES CUS I DONT LIKE HOW HE SNAPPIN MY ANGLES", "Aaron Rodgers", "Who's Travis Scott ml", "He even walks like a douchebag.", "Just listen to him on Spotify, they make literal pennies off of that platform lmao", "You clearly have no clue what you're talking about lol. Be offended that the idiots you worship are not actually musicians. Doesn't bother me.", "His shit is juvenile and contrived.", "Hilariously quick.", "What's your need to white knight this guy? The blame goes in a lot of directions ... but primarily his. He's a POS and it finally caught up with him...as it usually does.", "His music sucks...", "Ugh, this whole response is condescending and pretentious\n\nEdit: And for the record, I love the band, I loved the shows. It's the fans I can live without. The fans made it so I don't want to go anymore.", "Dude, go outside and touch some grass.", "When you are above the little people", "r/fucktravisscott", "I get it, you like flaunting your ignorance. The dude was being pulled away by emergency personnel and struggling to get through the crowd, while Travis Scott stood on a raised platform.\n\n>Lmfao. I didn't think there would be such moronic Live Nation dick riders out in full force.\n\nI don't care for Live Nation. I just feel like calling you out for promoting racism under the thinly-veiled guise of fighting racism.", "And then 2 days later everyone forgets, she's goes platinum, you can't walk for a few months, lose your job and end up with a nasty opiod addiction.", "you rly parroting old ass Bill Cosby takes right now like the way Travis wears his pants has anything to do with how much of a POS he is and the tragic loss of life at his festival? stfu boomer", "Ah thx sry it's been a while since I've seen it...", "Shame it took deaths for everyone to actually give a fuck that this dude has been a hunk of shit his whole career. \n\nArtistically, the whole subgenre is creatively bankrupt, and the people pushing it are as garbage as their art. Bring back good rap", "Hehe", "So we should just let people be shitty? I think that might be part of the reason the world has gone full suck.", "HIGH IQ", "I'm sure if what Chris did to Rihanna happened today it would have a different outcome. Look what happened to Dababy. People back then when social media wasn't this huge didn't give a damn", "Women aren’t weaklings. We will never get where we need to go if women are consistently treated like children who have zero power. They could have gotten up and walked away or said NO- GROSS! I would have. THEN if something happened in retaliation he would deserve the metoo.\n\nI’ve been drugged and assaulted, I’ve been harassed and abused. I and many women I know find it repellent to lump these cases of bad behavior in with REAL trauma, real career or academic ending consequences.", "Definitely did not say that. There are better ways to solve a problem than getting the shit beaten out of you and thrown out the back like jazzy jeff.", "I read that as, \"my opinion is better and more righteous than anyone that disagrees with me.\"", "Then what options exist? Writing a sternly worded letter? You could probably sue for a hefty sum over being unlawfully denied access to witnessing the birth of your child.", "As someone with experience working music festivals, this 100% falls on Travis’s team for not communicating to event staff that videographers are not allowed on stage during his performance.", "My music consumption has been through Spotify since it launched.\n\nI barely watch TV\n\nWhere exactly would I hear this music without being directly told about it?\n\nYes I've heard Childish Gambino but he is very much the exception (in popular culture) rather than the rule. \n\nFrom my perspective rap culture still seems to have a toxic masculinity problem which often limits the type of artists that get popular.", "At least they're not biased by trying to justify acting racist. ;)", "Thats the craziest thing to me still! Especially with how big Rihanna is! Rihanna is bigger than Chris B had ever been or will ever be yet he somehow still has a career after literally beating her!", "\"Calls him a nerd\"\n\nWtf, is he Mac from IASIP?", "The show must go on.", "I did some digging and it looks like they took about a week to start dropping him, but Travis is headlining at day n vegas this weekend (one of the festivals to drop dababy) and their latest post still features him. I’m super curious to see what they decide to do.", "I see your point.", "For some reason i thought they were talking about the YouTuber Tom Scott. I was very confused.", "There is no profit when you have to pay over 100 people millions in lawsuits. No insurance will want to touch his performances with a 10-ft pole for a while and when they do, it’ll be very expensive. And come with a litany of requirements he will have to meet.", "I would’ve been like “pull your pants up bro”", "I believe you misunderstood. When he says \"no disrespect\" what he means is \"I will tolerate no perceived disrespect towards me\" even though the dude was supposed to be there.", "Because he cares and he is an artist 😂 fuck ya self already", "Like you said? By being racist and putting people down for not agreeing with you? Well done! You're doing a fantastic job of giving people special status due to their skin color.", "You know what's going to happen to this guy? Nothing. He'll be allowed to continue on just like Chris Brown because he makes a lot of people a lot of $$$$$. \nThe internet can try their best but he's gonna continue on like this forever and we're all just wasting our time complaining about it.", "The thing I hated about Travis Scott before the debacle of this weekend is his name.\n\nHis name is TRAVIS SCOTT. That is a Sum 41 guitarist-ass name, what kind of spiked dyed blonde hair white dude name is that for a rapper?\n\nDudes real name is Jacques Bermon Webster II and he went with TRAVIS SCOTT.\n\nDumb 90s ass name.", "I wish that videographer was bill bur", "Haven't seen a single person here play the race card but you", "Nah he's too skinny to be a bully. He weighs like 160 lbs after putting on a bit of muscle.\n\nProbably rolled with a squad of bullies though.", "I can't figure out from the footage whether he is wearing some sort of next level underwear with pant legs attached, or whatever the fuck he has done to achieve this balance.", "You know the dave Chappelle line.", "TIL autotuned mumble rap counts as art.", "I looked up some of their songs and I just think Redditors aren't generally the targeted audience", "Bartholomew Rheinhold Cubberland Wedgefield", "i thought he was asking the dread guy if it was worth losing his largest dread tl meet his idol and the guy was trying to make a joke about dababy not being there", "Has Travis scott seen what he looks like when he runs, calling other people a nerd haha", "There's also footage of him crowdsurfing, then as a kid ''allegedly'' tries to get his shoe, he stops the show, attacks the kid, spits on him and incites the crowd to \"fuck him up\". \n\nhttps://youtu.be/1n-kv7ABtlg?t=20", "Bro there are videos of him standing mere feet away from EMS pulling corpses out of the crowd while he is dancing just above them...reddit isn't upset about mob mentality their upset that someone who had the power to stop said mob didn't do so. Literally nobody blaming the mob lol. As I type this I realized your probably just a troll. Gross.", "just a standard reddit thread these days. seems like hating on whatever is a lot of people's favorite hobby.", "Suing is way better than getting your ass kicked", "I’m imagining “WHERES JA?!” But Dave because I can’t wait to hear what he’s gonna say about this whole situation 😂", "Sort of. VladTV is a YouTube guy who interviews a lot of rappers. He’s infamous for always trying to pry and dig deep into their criminal history, to the point it sometimes appears that he’s trying to get people to incriminate themselves. There is an ongoing meme that Vlad works for the FBI.", "And yet the audience cheered him after hearing that “I’m a arteese, bro”. Don’t know how’s shittier the arteese or the audience", "trashy scott", "Might have trouble suing if you don't get your ass kicked, though. It's a form of physical evidence. Now they get to ask security why it is they beat you.", "Oddisee, blue scholars, de la soul", "Over the course of two days I went from not knowing or honestly caring who this person was to hating him and everyone that likes him. I honestly dislike him more than I dislike GG Allin and that fucking weirdo would eat his own shit on stage and visit serial killers in jail", "Yeah, Phish, Grateful Dead, and Bassnectar concerts aren’t really known for having fans that get “reasonably” inebriated lol", "I never heard of Travis Scott until the chaos over the weekend. Judging by his performance in the videos posted, he seems to be yet another shitty, auto-tuned, cookie-cutter rapper with no discernible talent or skill. Now I see this video and see that he's an arrogant asshole, too.\n\nWhy is this guy a big deal?", "reddit is a leftist website. lefitists are known for this kind of thing, blind bandwagoning hatred. soon as this dies down its on to the next thing to hate on. it isnt about travis scott, its about they have all this hate in their hearts and they cant function without something external to pin it on. \n\nalso i say leftist because its an easy label.", "Never heard of him before McDonald's\n\nThen after McDonald's - not sure why but I assumed he was a sports guy - I guess cuz I don't follow sports I assumed thats why I never heard from him.\n\nBut TIL he isn't in sports. apparently it's my fault for not keeping up with America's Top Assholes.", "I would love to see a video where he runs his mouth to a cop. Pathetic Murderer piece of hoodrat shit.", "Wouldn’t that be tragic.", "with his pants around his ankles", "I haven't been on the internet in 7 days and all I have to say is that this guy seems like a totally responsible and nice fellow that absolutely would not incite a riot and get his fans killed and injured.\n\nEDIT: oh no", "I hope for this guys next show, while he's encouraging the fans to rage and rush the stage, the security just walks away. Let the fans beat this dude to death.", "I understand how you feel especially being behind the camera. I will say this. Some cameramen be way too close and jam packed on stage and security be way too extra and rough on fans. Music is powerful and people express themselves through it. Sadly things went left now...", "He also stopped a concert to attack and spit on kid for allegedly trying to take his shoe. Then he incited the crowd to \"fuck him up\". \n\nhttps://youtu.be/1n-kv7ABtlg?t=20", "I'm trying to figure out why anyone supported him in the first place. He sucks.", "Jameer's side of the story!\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpeZ4t6CfJA", "> Can you point me to a single video that made the front page of a black artist stopping a show? Or was it just a cacophony of white artists?\n\nEven with this I think you're making it a race thing when it isn't. Most of those videos were from rock/metal bands which have more energy in the crowds and has required the bands to respond to keep the situation under control. In a genre that is dominated by white people it would make sense that an increase in sharing videos from that genre would mostly include white artists.\n\nI've never even heard of a rap concert needing to be stopped due to crowd crush. Which means I've never heard of a rap artist having to call out the crowd to chill.\n\nYou're seeing ghosts.", "Haven't seen anyone mention his skin color yet but you.\n\n\nI think people are more upset because he was still singing while they were crowd surfing corpses out of the crowd he riled up.", "8 people died, you dolt. Respectable artists stop the show when they notice one person dying. Travis Scott stops the show to bully a videographer.\n\nNo one is going to take accusations of racism seriously if you use them to shield a person's shitty behavior by invoking their skin color. Maybe you don't understand racism quite as well as you think you do.", "You spelled \"clump of cells\" wrong", "I always thought Travis Scott was the guy who sold those shamwows on those TV shopping adverts :/", "So you’re saying he should get a free pass for his behavior because he’s black? It’s not his fault because someone else could have done something? Wow.", "Sure there is. You need to take a step back from the internet for a bit, you seem frustrated and a bit in a bubble.", "Who the f is Travis Scott, and why is he not wearing pants in his size?", "Up until this weekend - I thought he was the drummer for Blink-183. But I am kinda old though…..", "Except what you're saying isn't what I'm refuting.\n\nThere is are multiple claims going around that he was told directly to stop the show and said no, none of which have been sourced.\n\nPeople then pointed to lamb of god for stopping a show, despite y'know, randy blithe killing someone. He was found innocent, and rightly so, but still a weird look.\n\nStop being the judge jury and executioner.", "Idiot.", "My level of effort is directly proportional to the strength of your argument. Which in this case, is decidedly weak. Nice mental gymnastics though.", "\"Your nerdy ass.... no disrespect\" uh huh", "> And therefore, it's not homosexual since I've said \"No homo\".\n\n What is this shit? Can we stop using homosexuality as an insult?", "Think of how long it took to take R Kelly down. Dude was raping kids for 20 years.", "I loved seeing Mary J. Blige let loose! She's usually very elegant and composed.", "Its not because she was a woman who was “weak”, its because her career was potentially on the line. Men have been taken advantage of the same way.\n\nThats a super gross take and victim blaming.\n\n“I was raped forcefully so therefore those who were coerced instead aren’t as deserving of justice as me.”", "Oh. Oh dear. That is unfortunate. It sounds like your disturbance is well placed.", "Like when he stopped that show because someone touched his shoes while he was crowd surfing, so he stopped the show to spit at a minor and told the crowd to \"get that motherfucker\"", "Fuck this clown. Just removed all his songs I had saved on my Spotify.", "How is his race even remotely relevant?", "> Because there's never been aggressive rap music before?\n\nStrawman\n\n> Rage Against The Machine never existed? JPEG Mafia?\n\nWhat about them?\n\n> This is really the only time there's been a rap artist who dealt with an aggressive moshing crowd?\n\nStrawman\n\nListen, dude. You're literally just making shit up that I didn't say or imply and you're attacking that message. Almost every metal show has mosh pits, can you say the same about almost every rap show? No, you can't. It happens but it isn't a staple of the genre. Not sure why you're getting your panties twisted over this.\n\n> So because you've never heard of it, that means it's never happened?\n\nAgain with these weird assumptions. No, I literally didn't fucking say that it never happens because i've never heard of it. I just said I had never heard of it. Do I need to break this shit down for you more simplistically than that?", "[Harry Mack](https://www.youtube.com/c/HarryMack/videos) is super wholesome and humble and often likes to rap about meaningful topics and is also possibly the greatest freestyle rapper on the earth", "I don't know who he is, I'd never heard of him until the crush, I'd never heard any of his songs, but now I refuse to support him and I won't be buying any of his CDs or merchandise from this point on.", "That's why you have to document and record everything. They could beat your ass and lie about why", "He will face no consequences and his career will go on as normal, maybe even boosted. The elites do not face justice or any ramifications for their actions, especially when the victims are from the filthy masses. He could be even more responsible for their deaths, just shy of literal murder and get away free. \n\nShit you can get away with beating the fuck out of your elite girl friend and still have another decade or two long rap career.", "I’m more and more realizing that Travis Scott is simply just a piece of shit. Definitely lost a fan.\n\nMillions of dollars can help you get out of poverty and secure a better life, but it can’t make you a better person apparently. The amount of ego you have to have to treat an employee like that is pathetic lmao, let alone that this out of all things made you stop the concert in its tracks", "Every time I reread this report, I get so angry… I would give practically anything to stomp that piece of human filth!", "Yeah, its appropriate when they instigate. Thats about the only time. And even then a smart person would be careful.\n\nI agree What Louis did was laughable compared to Chris Brown and he did not deserve to lose as much as he did.", "The Kardashians seem to pick the narcissists. \n\nI’m an artist bro. I’m an artist. \n\nNo you’re not. You’re a cunt.", "Lmao often I’ve wondered why he landed on Travis for a stage name. Weird choice", "Simply denying you access is something that they could lie about, though I do agree with your point of documenting everything.", "By not mentioning it in the first place. It’s like my uncle at thanksgiving saying, “I’m not racist but…” followed by something racist.", "I didn't even know who the hell this moron was until a couple days ago. I do some concert photography and have done my fair share of bands I've never heard of, so if I was hired by the promoters to shoot Travis Scott just 5 days ago I would've accepted the job. To add, however, I've never met any true assholes as of yet, just some that were a little stressed and I get that.", "Nobody said he deserves it, they said that encouraging people to disregard his own security and sneak back stage is cultivating a dangerous environment for himself. EDIT In hindsight someone above literally said \"get what he deserves\", so I guess I retract that", "[Because of the implication](https://media4.giphy.com/media/xLnGUEYWS0btPHCZoo/giphy.gif)", "I respect what your trying to say, but there are really much better places to point out racism on Reddit than by defending Travis Scott. Dudes not entirely responsible, but he certainly holds the majority of the responsibility. This is the same for any other artist throwing concerts. Not to mention there's already tonnes of videos of him being a piece of shit at other concerts, even inciting violence against his fans, using homophobic slurs, and abusing staff of the organisers (who you say should have more responsibilty here, but Travis makes sure they don't). \n\nIf you like the artists music, that's ok, but don't defend the artists trashy behaviour. It's ok to seperate the art from the artist, how many movie directors are pieces of shit for example?", "I feel like none of those people have the authority to stop the show..", "You forget about the part where Travis Scott has a history of enticing dangerous/unsafe behavior at his shows. It'd be different if it was a first time thing maybe, but none of this shit looks good right now no matter which way you look at it. General negligence was the main contributor and that finger can be pointed in multiple directions, but to an extent Travis is personally responsible for what happened at that event.", "This guy sounds like a real douche.", "racists' plot foiled again! and I would've gotten away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids!", "You care more about unborn children than your fellow countrymen that you could be infecting by not being vaccinated.\n\n\nDon't vaccinate your dog either so it can contract rabies and then bite you.", "He's a piece of shit", "> Your point is that it's not racist that Reddit is promoting video after video after video of nice safe white bands like Oasis stopping their shows.\n\nMy point is that you're making something racial that isn't inherently racial. \n\n> And my point is that there are thousands of examples of black artists and rap musicians that have stopped shows for crowd behaviour, yet none of those are getting posted and upvoted.\n\nAnd how many of those have you posted?", "And bill Crosby and Weinstein …the list goes on and on", "I thought he was a Fortnite character.", "This just comes across as a bit racist honestly", "> So yeah, all of Reddit ganging up and putting all the blame on one black singer instead of the multi billion dollar event organizers feels super weird and wrong\n\nDid you miss the fact that Asrtroworld is run by none other than Travis Scott himself? He's the boss. There's several people from the team who went to him to tell him to stop the show because shit was going down, but he dismissed them. Because he's the boss.", "Says the guy who's real name is Jacques Berman Webster II! LMAO!\n\nBig clown energy with this dude.", "He’s quite literally the organizer of the Festival...", "AND just \n like that Nike abandons him. The ol Kaepernick special.", "I thought he was just some guy who likes McDonald's", "But he said \"no disrespect\" though", "Go post one then dude. Be the change.", "It's called benefit of the doubt. When you can describe something in the most forgiving way and it still sounds terrible, that's how you know they were terrible without a doubt.", "I don’t want it to happen, but this is how you get assassinated by a crazy fan.", "What a tool", ">when the n word was his own lyrics\n\nholy shit someone alert the authorities", "How many people thought their phone was on 20% battery when that popped up!", "This is America where you need insurance for everything. Good luck with him getting insurance coverage in the future now or it having spiked to ridiculous costs because he's an idiot.", "I wanna fight Travis. All this shits that’s coming out about what a genuine piece of human garbage he is. And ever time I see a video of him he’s hiding behind a massive security team and calling other people bitch, faggot, pussy. This dude weighs like 80 pounds, I’m just a little fat white boy but I could knock that bitch out with my ballsack.", "I like his music but this is the definition of Asshole", "\"You are a good man with a good heart. And it's very hard for a good man to be king.\"", "I tend to feel that people who continually encourage and facilitate harm to others DO deserve it returned.\n\nSure, an eye for an eye, blind world, etc... But if you don't do anything everything you see is made ugly by the assholes anyway.", "There's a reason why people like this get their fame for a short period and become \"Who?\"s just as fast while people like Dave Grohl remain legends forever.", "I hope this scum bag somehow learns real suffering in his life.", "Did you take it like he meant it “I’m not trying to disrespect you”? I took his words it in context as “don’t disrespect me”.", "Travis Scott is the actual event organizer. He hired LiveNation...\n\nLol dumbass.", "Nah you're just acting like he doesn't hold any responsibility at all. And calling everybody who criticizes him a racist. Makes sense.", "fucking cringe youtube rapper", "? He invited a girl to rap his lyrics, and then got offended that she knew all the words. You don’t see nothing wrong With this? If you don’t want people to say the n-word, maybe don’t use it yourself?", "Honestly, what does Kylie see in him?", "It's possible he's unhappy with his own life.", "In terms of \"the union might get mad\" or \"I will get yelled at by my boss,\" yeah, no authority. In terms of \"I gotta break the rules or someone's going to die,\" I'd have to find a way.", "So if the stage collapsed would that be Travis Scott's fault for hiring the largest event organizer in the world and assuming that they would know how to safely put a stage together? Or do you expect the funder of festival to be going and inspecting every safety bolt? \n\nWhen Travis Scott signed that contract with Live Nation, Live Nation was the party that took legal and professional responsibility for safety and security at the event they were hired to organize.", "ok.", "Not my intention, as a nearly translucent white man myself I just always thought that \"Travis Scott\" sounds like the name of a motocross rider and was surprised it was the name of a Black Rapper.", "So, when are we going to cancel this piece of shit?", "Be prepared for Axl Rose to show up A LOT.", "I dont mind styles that some people like, but sagging that far down is just ridiculous, I dont even know how they are supposed to walk like that.", "It's even in the lyrics most popular song of all time ''kicking the camera man off of my stage'' - antidote", "There seems to be quite a few musicians like this atm, ones with some of the worst examples of hate and being a prick openly on the Internet but somehow they play the 'good guy' that cares about shit and their fans let them get away with it... Can people stop idolising people like that? Making good music shouldn't excuse you from being a decent human being.", "He's an idiot, which is why he's getting sued for astroworld and the recent stampede at his concert", "Cringe. Also, referring to yourself in the third person is cringe af. Also, the people saying they will not loner support him or buy his music…lmfao you supported him at all in the first place and bought his trash music, maybe the most cringe of all. Also the guy that said that has a Reddit avatar with one of their animal onesies…cringe.", "Oh thank god. Are we finally canceling this turd? He's been garbage for a long time now.\n\nAlso, this video thumbnail is hilarious. He looks like a toddler that got away from his parents while they were trying to dress him! LOL", "lol fucking oblivious moron, ok whatever you say dumbass\n\nshow me someone better \n\ni'll wait", "Ask a Travis Scott fan. I think he's garbage.", "🤨", "Maybe he was just having a bad day because he couldn't find his belt?", "literally any hip hop/ rap artist that actually has a personality or aesthetic to their music", "afaik he's dethroned logan paul for the title of \"douchebag within the vicinity of a literal corpse\"", "Guess that fortnite concert for all the little kiddies has gone to his head.", "This ain’t exactly something new or exclusive to this generation. Remember Altamont?", "Dudes turned into way less of an artist and way more of a piece of shit, I hope he goes to jail and gets stuffed, maybe he’ll learn a lesson about respect when he’s shitting blood", "Human garbage", "I mean, canceled itself is a completely loaded term. How many people have actually been canceled? Louis ck still has a career after pandering to the right over being canceled. Same with Dave. Jk Rowling was never canceled, Alex Jones was deplatformed but never actually canceled\n\nRoseanne is about the only person whose \"canceling\" actually stuck. Because she was racist against black people\n\n\nNothing else really sticks. People get upset, celeb trends on social media outrage, nothing happens\n\nYet we keep talking about cancel culture like it actually exists, and it doesn't.\n\nBut the real takeaway is: violence doesn't hurt a person's career. America is fucked.", "> The level of cognitive dissonance to say “get your nerdy ass off stage” immediately followed by “no disrespect”. Like does he even know what the word disrespect means? Because insulting someone is pretty much definitional disrespect. Probably just some phrase he mutters after all the clownish shit he does as if it somehow absolves him of responsibility.\n\n\n\nthis has got to be the dumbest fucking take my poor eyes have ever seen. Jesus christ dude, how to you not constantly walk into glass doors?\n\n#no disrespect* \n\nI'm just not seeing it, look I made it ok by saying that I don't not respect you, what more do you want? ^no ^disrespect", "This checks out. Narcissistic trash who married into the second worst narcissistic trash family.\n\nFeel bad for his kids.", "No, he definitely deserves to be fucked up.", "Ok but who cares? How much stupid shit do you do that doesn't need to be called out on?", "Is he on cocaine?", "It doesn't help when Travis Scott actively encourages the behaviour though. For example, he has allowed his fans to basically stampede concert gates for years, even showing these stampedes in ads for astroworld. One video has the security actively try to stop people from doing this, but his fans didn't give a shit and literally destroyed the gates and ignored security. He also encourages violence as I mentioned earlier. In one video, he stops a concert (funny how he could stop this one) because he thought his shoe was getting stolen, so he encourages fans to \"fuck him up\" and spits on the fan. Keep in mind that he had no real way of telling whether it was an accident or not at the time. Another video he bullies a staff member in charge of photography for the organisers of a concert, verbally abuses him over the Mike and sends him off stage. \n\nThe other videos posted are there to make a point about the power of musicians to \n\nA) sway the crowd to behave a certain way ( check out the Linkin Park video for a good example.\n\nB) show how easy it is for them to stop singing and make sure everything's ok before continuing.\n\nThe big point is don't defend this guy, he's the face of the violence going on at the concert, he let his fans act this way and sometimes encouraged it, he needs to be held accountable. Even now, people are still saying awful things about the victims of the concert just not being good enough to handle the mosh pit.\n\nMorally, you are in the right place, you're just backing a fucked up horse is all. People have a right to be mad at this asshole way outside of race and culture.", "yes so you can't show me a single person cuz you are full of shit \n\nand i doubt you listened to a single thing... no personality or aesthetic? \n\nare you deaf in addition to being a judgemental close-minded fool?", "Classic cancel culture in action", "You would be a terrible lawyer...\n\nFunder? I think you mean ‘founder’ you seem like the type of guy that will point to the word being in the dictionary. You’ve already claimed Travis Scott was not the event organizer, when in fact, he is.\n\nInteresting straw man argument though, it was a crowd crush, not a stage collapse. Keep fantasies in your head and stick to facts.", "People who believe that are usually the bullies themselves.", "I guess your talking about Altamont only one person was stabbed there and the hells angels where the \"security\" for thw event. The dead where friendly and had good relations with at least the San Fran chapter and they did security all the time for their shows and where at the shows in the crowds. \n\nThey left Altamont beciase they weren't going to get to play because things where a shit show. You make it sound like the angels where running through the crowd stabbing people randomly and the dead ditched out.\nOne the grateful deads mangers ron scully was one of the people who ask the angels to suuround the stage.\n\nEdit. The gratef7l dead left after a singer had her skull fractured by a bottle and the hells angels knocked out the jefferson \nn airplane singer. They were gone before the stabbing happened", "Fuck you scumbag,", "There's no profit in damaged equipment, employees claiming workman's comp, etc.", "What a piece of shit. Hope this dude gets Super-Saiyan level Syphilis.", "lmao you’re so upset that i said your boring youtube rapper is a boring youtube rapper", "Who?\n\nOh yeah, the guy whos has members of the audience dying at his festival, I read about that.", "Projecting 101", "He's a factory-made \"rapper\" with a name picked by a focus group.", "Eight people died at his festival this weekend, fuck this guy.", "Then can you explain it to me?\n\nIt seems like one of those very strange fashion moments that sometimes come along momentarily, but this one simply refused to die. I still see it constantly, decades later.", "> an official concert videographer\n\nHere's a video of the same guy explaining the entire situation [link](https://youtu.be/xpeZ4t6CfJA). Would suggest watching If you want to know both sides of the story.", "and", "Yes there is, you just have to calculate that into your expenses and then charge accordingly. There's enough idiots for that scheme to work. If you need to charge more per ticket, just add a laser show or something shinny to make it seem worth it.\n\nSadly, I don't think I'm even being sarcastic.", "Now if only your list had Tobe Nwigwe it'd be complete.", "It's probably because it's his show and it's his followers. As someone has already said in this thread, his fans are sheep and his is their leader in a sense. He HAD the power to say something or do something but CHOSE not to do anything, if he can convince his followers to rush the gates and essentially trespass, then he CAN sure convince them to calm down for 5 minutes while the situation could get under control and people who needed to be escorted out or helped up could be tended to. Total lack of effort on Travis Scott's part. There are plenty of artists who can work their crowds and stop a show to make sure their audience is ok. Seeing the level of negligence at his event made me genuinely never want to see him perform at a venue, it's fucking terrifying trying to imagine what was going through everyone's head there.", "Dude, pulling the race card in defense of this guy is embarrassing. He has a history of this behavior. And, hilariously enough he runs the damn festival. one of his albums is titled Astroworld.\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroworld_Festival\n\nAre you hired by his PR team to spread this ridiculous claim that bashing a prick for being a prick who happens to be black is racist? Because if you're genuine, all you're doing is feeding the alt-right's narrative.", "\nWell, let me just say I appreciate the faith you have shown in me by forcing me to take responsibility for any offense taken by preemptively absolving yourself of any blame. It shows you have a great character.", "There's plenty of good rap out there now, more so than ever I'd argue. You just aren't looking in the right places.", "“Kicked the cameraman on the stage; I didn’t like he was snapping my angles”\n\nHe brags about it in a later song", "How about y’all stop going to his concerts. His songs aren’t that great anyway!", "This weekend I also learned he existed, and with this video I learned that he doesn't know how to wear pants. He looks like a toddler peeing at a urinal with his pants that low...", "He stuck his dingle in one of the Jenners, is who he is. He sounded so untalented and narcissistic in the footage and it didn't make sense, but now I know he has a thin sticky film of insta-famous slime on his dick.", "I think he picked Travis in honor of his uncle, and picked Scott in reference to Scott Mescudi (Kid Cudi), a huge inspiration for him.", "I mean it's just wearing your pants or shorts lower than your hip. Once it's down on your ass though it just becomes uncomfortable. Once it's below your ass idk what you are even doing. \n\nMy favorite is the basketball shorts below underneath jeans. So you don't want just all of your underwear showing (like in the video) but you do want to do this extreme sagging so you literally wear shorts under your pants.", ">Interesting straw man argument though, it was a crowd crush, not a stage collapse. Keep fantasies in your head and stick to facts.\n\nCan you explain how Live Nation's failure to safely setup and monitor a stage, is different from Live Nation's failure to safely setup and monitor effective crowd controls? \n\nIt's not a strawman, it's a directly analogous situation that shows how ridiculous it is to not blame the concert organizers who are legally and professionally in charge of safety and crowd management.", "There have been numerous cases of businesses taking the into account the risk of litigation, fines and what not into their business calculations and still approving of going through with their shady actions", "Also Travis saying “I’m an artist” like, cool story bro, so is he? That argument barely flies in general, but it certainly doesn’t hold any weight against another creative professional.", "He probably thinks “no disrespect” is an order/command to the person he thinks is disrespecting him. Or he’s just a fucking dumbass.", "Oh damn", "You keep saying who is ‘legally and professionally’ responsible...\n\nIt’s a court that will decide that, not your dumbass.\n\nYou better believe the 37 minutes Travis Scott played on while firefighters and paramedics responded to a ‘mass casualty’ event will be intensely investigated.", "I don't. I'm pro choice but I can also recognize that if you support someones right to kill unborn babies you should support their right to get the vaccine or not. It is their body.", "It's more that shitty vacuous people will keep lining up to hear the same identical derivative autotune hip hop crap that has plagued music since the mid 2000s. It's people with no musical taste at all attracted to his abusive asshole persona. It's no wonder he attracts a crowd of murderous narcissists, because he is one. The music is just incidental. It has to be because it's pure auditory shit.", "This guys career is over", "in this case \"the wrong way\" was clearly disrespectful. I'm glad Travis Scott's shit is starting to catch up with him. He gives all other rap artists a bad name. SO many good and talented rap artists out there that care for the people around them. This dude is a joke compared to real rap gods like Nas, Jay-Z, Eminem, etc.", "Before this week, I'd never heard of this dickhead. Seems I won't need to hear about him much longer either.", "Seriously, what's going on with his pants? His pants only come up to the lowest part of his ass, how is he able to walk?\nWhy?", "Not sure what that has to do with anything. I definitely don't think Reddit is some high brow place, quite the opposite.", "What would be the correct term to describe what OP was going for? Colloquially I feel like the term “mental gymnastics” might fit but it doesn’t seem very elegant.", "If he has no respect for his security then why should his security have respect for him?", "Oh I'm sorry, are you under the impression that Travis Scott personally planned out the crowd management strategies, emergency response, and safety personnel? \n\nIt doesn't take a court to understand the services that you pay an event organizer for when you sign a contract with them.", "Ok so you're not even reading the posts if you didn't see that all the top comments on this thread about sagging pants. \n\nNo wonder you don't notice anything, headlines only I guess?", "It's funny cuz I grew up with real rap when it was good and everyone listened to biggie, pun, 2pac, nas, etc..\nTalk to any of us and we all hate this auto tuned mumble rap garbage. \nWhy? I saw it ruin all my younger friends lives. They were brainwashed into believing selling coke and promethezene/codeine and fake xannys or \"bars\" or whatever would give them clout. And it did. They got more pussy than anyone I've ever met. And now they're dead because of fentanyl overdoses.", "lacking cognative ignorance is bliss = blissorance? That is a beautiful new word you've created there.", "Also, anyone who claims to be in complete control of their emotions/not feel them is inevitably totally ruled by them.", "What the fuck does being gay have to do with anything. Why are you putting it in the same list as racism and disrespect. Get the fuck out of here with that shit.", "I think the opposite would be a better example of cognitive dissonance: Someone who is pro-life but anti-vax. (Similarly, pro-life but anti welfare).", "Nah. Dude knows exactly what he's doing. He's a prime example of this era's diva.", "“Justice” for what? Nothing happened to her besides feeling uncomfortable and worried. That’s a thing that happens in life. Again, if she stood up and left and he punished her using his power against her, THEN there would be justice to serve. We can’t equate “being worried about potential future bad things happening” with “bad things happening.”\n\nThere is no victim here to blame. Shitty things happen. They’re uncomfortable and bad and that sucks. AND we have to draw the line between those things and actual crimes that deny people their autonomy and safety.", "Yeah, seems like a super duper kind of guy.", "That's asinine. Beliefs and knowledge are two different things. You should learn the difference.", "No, I’m under the impression you have no idea where professional or legal liability starts or ends...", "Well it's already a public affair, otherwise we wouldn't be talking about it from a Rolling Stone article.\n\nSo guess he didn't really need to push anything to make it public? So not sure how it would have helped him.\n\nAt least by not pushing, he gets seen as 0% the bad guy in the situation. Causing trouble wouldn't have helped him.", "Hilarious this guy thinks he can call anyone else a nerd. [Look at this fucking dork.](https://www.davishighnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Travis-costume-.jpg)", "Travis Scott seems like a real piece of shit", "That's cool, I'm under the impression that you've already lost this argument but can't bring yourself to graciously admit it.", "Which is funny because there's someone else controlling the notes of his autotune, so whoever is playing the keyboards or programmed the scales is literally the artist. Anyone can say \"yyaaahhhh yyaarraahbahhhrahhhhh\"", "Honestly, I feel like social media was already big in 2009 when this happened. I don't think Travis Scott would lose any fans over this just like Chris Brown didn't either.", "He is the concert organizer. He is the one who constantly incites his fans to break into shows and backstage and to rush the stage and attack others in the audience. He is the one who refused to stop the show, even as he watched fucking children's lifeless bodies being carried out. Somehow, this shit doesn't happen at the hundreds if not thousands shows Live Nation does. He is fucking scum, and it has nothing to do with his skin color. Please pull your head out of your ass.", "He seems like he’s insanely maladjusted", "\\>I think that might not be for much longer.\n\nI posted something similar earlier. He's a disgrace to actual rap artists.", "> 90% of rap music I hear is just some variation of \"I had nothing now I'm rich, I like sexy women, I'm a big tough man\"\n\n...also don't forget, \"I smoke weed\".\n\nQuite the rebellious ruffians by the sounds of it!\n\nOh my!", "I know this is sarcasm, but that would be textbook tragedy.", "There are ten year old kids still hospitalized from his concert. \n\nWhat kind of shitty parent would take their ten year old to go see this asshole?", "I feel like OP saw all those clips of musicians pausing their show to help fans in the crowd and thought. \"Hope in humanity? Not on my watch!\"\n\n^(I mean... not their fault or anything but still...)", "You keep repeating that phrase despite not understanding anything about legal liability.\n\nYou are either a teen defending his favorite artist or uneducated. I would like you to cite your sources that hiring a promoter absolves all legal liability...", "I have no idea who this guy is but he is a fucking gigantic prick.", "It's somewhere between pants and kneesocks I suppose.", "At what point does someone deserve violence? Actively encouraging and inciting violence in his audience, repeatedly and knowingly leading to injuries and death seems like one would deserve their inevitable violent death at the hands of the crowd they intentionally incited.\n\n\nSeriously, is no one responsible for their actions anymore? Does anyone deserve anything? You can't be credited for anything good if you're absolved of any and all wrongs by default because \"no one deserves that\"", "Cite your sources about legal liability like a real lawyer now...\n\nYou are probably the only person on the planet that thinks your liability ends AFTER hiring someone.", "And all those families who lost loved ones are absolutely in the right to sue his ass. I plan on following the court cases closely. I hope they make an example of him. I insure large hip hop events, and 10 years ago I could get a policy for 1/100th of what it costs today. Exactly because of asshole like this dude. It's pretty interesting actually. Carriers are now doing background checks, listening to the lyrics, etc because they've found an event's liability is directly dependent on the ARTISTS. Not the level of security, planning of the event, etc.", "Man, Travis Scott effectively ended his career, and deservedly so.", "Sure, just ignore that the guy who’s only job was to perform incited the crowd. I don’t understand why you’re acting like he’s innocent here. Maybe you’re a fan of his shitty unoriginal music.", "Here he is high as fuck doing SNL commercials. Can barely stay awake. https://youtu.be/JLDUzqhMoYQ", "He's being a vegan geek, doing something specifically to stand out and be socially awkward.\n\nTraditional non-vegan geeks would bite the heads off live chickens for the same effect? :shrug:", "Spotify reccomends music based on your tastes. I listen mostly to folk/rock/electronic stuff, it's hardly likely to reccomend me rap from that is it?\n\nHey you know that bit where I said I barely watch TV? Sometimes there are rap artists on there.\n\nThere are also rap artists on Reddit sometimes\n\nLook, seems like you're just here to try and dunk on someone rather than have a productive discussion so peace out.\n\nPeople are allowed to have opinions on things they're not experts on.", "He actually thinks you have no more legal liability after HIRING someone!\n\nIt’s only just begun...\n\nThe guy you are responding to is seriously stupid.", "I'm totally gonna be that old guy... But I thought everyone just tolerated his bland mayonnaise music because the Kardashian PR machine pushed him so hard...it's literally realty TV type music... this is like a bad TikTok, he's not even talking to anyone, just into the mic like a podcasting weirdo", "...yet another court case in which this \"arTisT\" should be held liable. You can't be prejudice in hiring someone because of a disability. What an ass.", "This dude is pure trash... Not once have I ever seen his name being mentioned with a some ugly shit attached to it", "Waddle", "\"I'M AN ARTIST\"\n\nNo...you're a dick.", "Aaannd I found the bigot.", "Going from the expectation of being able to sing to mumbling over a boring drum machine with a computer to (annoyingly) correct your lack of skill is a devolution, not an evolution. People used to be able to sing and write actual music. In the pop hip hop genre, it's manufactured in the most sickeningly plastic way and I can't believe it's been more than an entire decade since any innovation happened. Even accidentally. It's depressing.\n\nThe fact that its subject matter also glorifies an intellectually and morally bankrupt lifestyle only makes it more stomach turning. People are free to listen to what they want, of course. They're also free to drink out of the toilet.", "Ray Rice who beat his gf was going to be swept under the rug by the NFL until the casino video came out. If there was a video of Chris Brown beating Rihanna you know that he would be in prison.", "I'm so disappointed. I randomly saw him on Ellen (before the whole shit show), and I was so positively surprised. He seemed to be so kind. I guess he was just stoned, then, because he is actually a real piece of shit.", "There are so many parallels between Jan. 6 and Astroworld. It's a little scary that so many people will do horrible things if a specific person tells them to.", "This will probably get buried but a pet peeve of mine is when people call themselves an artist. There was a quote awhile back where a noted animator/director from Disney said, \" he doesn't call himself an artist, that it was a label that other people give you\". That always stuck with me.\n\nIf you think of the people we consider artists, they probably considered themselves musicians, singers, painters, sculptors, photgraphers, etc. In the end, it's society as a whole whom considers them artists. So people who refer to themselves as artists, really aren't. They're after the label and want to be one regardless if the public thinks they are or aren't.", "The only loss there would be the mentally ill person being jailed instead of treated", "waitwaitwait….Are you seriously telling me the man whos career consist of mumbling about prostituting and beating women, murdering men in cold bold, and drug trafficking isnt a good person?\n\ncolor me shocked :o", "Obviously he's a piece of shit and deserves everything coming his way, but he's actually one of the better mainstream rappers working right now. He doesn't \"just mumble in autotune,\" which tells me you only know him from this incident. \n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ONRf7h3Mdk\n\nRegardless of being a piece of shit, the dude has put out some good music.", "Can you tell the difference between different autotuned voices?", "So basically the dude is saying \"I'm just going to throw income away from promo shots, video, and publicity.\"\n\nMoron.", "Yes im not rtrded 😀", "He stopped the concert 4 times because of injuries...\n\nSo there is your proof he is capable of seeing. He’s right, you aren’t persuasive at all.", "His pregnant girlfriend Kylie Jenner? People would probably care, not because he beat a pregnant woman, but because it's Kylie specifically.", "I love that defense, \"autotune is an effect\" no it's not it's literally made to automatically tune your voice lol, these guys just crank the auto tune to make it sound like an effect.", "The really odd thing is almost everyone in the photos and all the people they interviewed after the concert, I don't think I saw a single person of color.", "That dumb fuck doesn't even know how to wear pants, and he's calling someone else a nerd?", "He is not a woman beater don't even put that false shit out there.", "Because he’s the event organizer and hired LiveNation...", "It's not like these are freelancers who can just say \"no\" to a gig. These were videographers hired by the festival producers to record their sets. The videographers are just doing their jobs.", "Nope, just you are", "I thought your were talking about flicking their bean", "Staples like what you mentioned you’re used to hearing a part of why rap overtook rock in popularity. As off putting as it may be to some, the masses seem to like it. Honestly, it’s less the lyrics and more the production and, to an extent, how the words are said. Think if it like comedic timing, with that last part. \n\nWith popularity comes narcissism, especially in a crowded field where you’re not supposed to succeed and everybody makes of joke of you until you do.\n\nEverybody has names some decent names of people who have made it big and who don’t come off as narcissistic at all times.\n\nI’ll add\n\nAce Hood\n\nD Smoke\n\nJadakiss\n\n J. Cole\n\nVince Staples\n\nJID\n\nMorray\n\nFlatbush Zombies\n\nBut I don’t know you’re talking about personality or topic. Like do you want less bravado and more breadth in subject matter, or do you want to listen to a person who isn’t an absolute cunt of a person even if they make enjoyable music?", "Literally who is Travis Scott", "Huh, so you're describing someone who saw people getting injured, and voluntarily stopped the show, but in your mind once he saw people dying he was like \"fuck yeah\"? \n\nGive your head a fucking shake and think before you type moron.", "I'm getting the feeling this Travis Scott dude is a complete douche.", "Complain all you want about the shitty things that Travis Scott has done but AstroWorld was a critically acclaimed album.", "Crowd Crush Wiki. Whole list. Most of the worst ones were I'm Europe. OP didn't care to look tho, he just had to fire off the America Bad narrative.", "This is America.", "Thank you. Say it louder. \n\n\nLivenation killed 8 people. Right people died at a Livenation show", "\"I'm an artist!\"\n\nNo, you're an insufferable piece of shit.", "Tbf that guy was the only non-musician on the stage and he was standing there awkwardly af haha. Like he was def stealing some of the spotlight. If I was in the crowd I'd definitely whipser to my buddy, \"wtf is that guy doing standing right there haha.\"", "Debatable", "I bet if the videographer was stomping one of his fans to death he wouldn’t have stopped the show.", "\"God works in mysterious ways!\"", "I agree with gamer mommy", "For those who have never heard his \"music\". Its him with on auto tune with a stock beat. Sounds like something you could make on a laptop by yourself - \n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPz33BLkvho\n\nPeople died to see this garbage in person. Think about that.", "Better cancel every rapper ever then", "Never said it did, but he didn't get cut off from Live Nation and then say \"trash this place\". Live Nation had thousands of staff monitoring and dealing with the crowd and they did nothing to stop the show.", "Okay, but they aren't blaming him because of his race. They are blaming him because he was the one headlining the show. The same way they would be blaming Metallica, Slayer, MCR, ADTR, or SAOSIN if they antagonized a crowd into acting rowdy and then did fuck all to remedy the situation.\n\nCriticism of a black man does not equal racism.", "Surprise no one has linked to the interview with the camera guy, he's super charming, how could you hate him???\n\nhttps://youtu.be/xpeZ4t6CfJA", "Wouldn't it be textbook irony, at least?\n\nI've never been good with irony, but I think I got it this time.", "Its amazing how frequently people will delude themselves into thinking wealthy 'talented' individuals will ever suffer the full consequences of their actions. That is not how it works in America, it never has been and likely never will be, and there are 1000 examples of these injustices to every 1 scenario where justice is served.", "That's a lie, not sure why this got so many likes. From a bunch of people who just believe what they read from random comments on the internet 🤣", "But he won't stop when people are dead on his concert floors. Priorities", "Is this the guy who wouldn't stop his concert when 8 people died?", "Maybe. It's tragedy because it's his hubris leading to his downfall.", "Nah people definitely won’t be booking Travis anytime in the near future. He has a history of shit like this and after Friday that was the last straw. IF he doesn’t get pulled from day n Vegas they are gonna have him on a tight ass leash bc if day n Vegas has a outcome like astroworld did they’ll get sued even worse for still having him perform after the events that took place. Unlike Travis now other venues will shut the show down if he gets too rowdy.", "Dude needs a belt", "Dude. When you drop a comment stating a bunch of nonsense matter-of-factly, you're inviting any and all rebuttals because you're doing so in a public forum. To then whine that a critic is taking your comment too seriously is silly.", "Ay shut the fuck up 🤣", "They had insurance at astroworld and they could’ve just refunded people their money and moved the show back until they were able to get things under control. The moment people broke the gates they should’ve shut it down and refunded people it’s not worth it at that point.", "Interesting. It makes sense why he is dating a kardasian, they are both divas", "> Are you really trying to claim that people's inherent biases and racism definitively couldn't be contributing\n\nDid I say that? No, again you're just making shit up. \n\nIt could be contributing to it, but that doesn't make it the major factor. Travis Scott is catching as much heat as he is because of his past. Seriously you must be fucking miserable to see every slight against a person as racially motivated.", "That is not how this works. Perhaps it helps if you hear it from Louis himself.\n\n“At the time, I said to myself that what I did was okay because I never showed a woman my dick without asking first, which is also true, But what I learned later in life, too late, is that when you have power over another person, asking them to look at your dick isn’t a question. It’s a predicament for them. The power I had over these women is that they admired me. And I wielded that power irresponsibly.”", "Believe it when I see it", "You asked for that! 🤪", "I would have thought hearing his shitty \"music\" for ten seconds would have done the trick.", "Lowkey hoping this dude gets cancelled. Y are we putting so much energy, money and effort into someone who obviously gives us only negativity back for our investments. What a tool", "Holy fuck. I don't think that I ever read this. That's brutal.", "You made a heroic sacrifice today", "Yeah kris Jenner is putting in work to get his covered up as we speak. She’s gonna change Travis’s whole persona and drop the Rager act for sure. With a baby on the way she s gonna turn him into a family man that deeply regrets this and he’ll go on hiatus for awhile. In a just world astroworld would be the last show he ever plays.", "and Kylie breeds with him???", "theyre kids", "Reminder: these are the types of guys that hot women like", "Yeah I feel you me too. I wouldn’t be surprised if the jenners/kardashians are paying people hella to not push the story. They’ll make this go away and change his identity from Rager to family man that regrets his actions.", "\"No disrespect\"\n\nWhat is it with these fucking newjack rappers and that stupid ass line?", "Meanwhile \"Lil Nos X\" is making hit country songs.", "Yeah. His story is definitely choc full of hubris.", "I've heard his name thrown around without seeing any photos and I thought he was a country singer.", "Hey this is what y'all want though and support.", "It would even be free ads. Need an example? Until yesterday, I did not know what he is doing, nor that he even exists.", "it looks uncomfortable. Same problem i have with restrictive looking pants in general. Or those skirts you cant make full strides in", "“Bless your heart you poor, stupid thing.”", "rofl first off i dont give 2 fucks what you think\n\ncuz clearly the guy with over 1.5 million subs is boring. right\n\ni'm just sad for you that you're so fucking stupid you are missing out on something incredible cuz of some judgemental attitude problem. its almost funny cuz you just dont know what the fuck you're talking about\n\nbut if i WAS upset, well, its at the very least childish and immature and more like the mark of a fucking sociopath to think its funny that other people are upset\n\nyou're just hating for the sake of hate. its psychotic and disgusting\n\nsince you clearly don't know how to act like a decent human being, i'll assume you're probably some trumptard antivaxxer dumbass wannabe fascist who will probably also die soon from covid, and stop wasting my time with you, as you are beyond help\n\n\n\nor just show me someone better\n\nmoron", "Oh noooo he called me a nerd waaaa waaaaaa waaaaaaaaa grow some balls", "So he DOES know how to stop a performance. interesting.", "I think people on Reddit like rap very much, just not shitty low-effort rap made by low-talent opportunists. Saying this guy is an \"artist\" insults people who can sing and play music. Saying he represents \"black art\" is what is truly racist. Everyone knows there are tons of great musical artists who are black and he's unfortunately not one of them. \n\nIt's like saying Kid Rock represents white artists and accusing people of being racist if they admit he sucks. (Except Kid Rock is actually a skilled musician who plays multiple instruments and can sing without autotune.)", "Stupid mf libs. Stay mad. Feelings hurt waaaaawaaaa my feelings they’re hurrrtt", "I hope you're right but the fact that \"he has a history of this\" tells me nothing will stop him until he's thrown in prison.", "“No disrespect, I’m an artist”????????????", "So now they’re just gonna start pulling old videos to the front page so random people who’ve never heard of him can voice a shitty opinion? This is fucked. Let the man fix the shit he caused instead of being a hive mind “oh fuck this guy he’s an asshole.” Reddit is weird during these times", "Then continued...\n\nIn the end 8 people died. And here you are saying he did nothing wrong.", "His fans think it’s fucking cool that people died at his concert. Dude that was dancing on an ambulance preventing them from providing aid are his average fan.", ">And here you are saying he did nothing wrong.\n\nI've in fact repeatedly said the opposite, trying working on your reading comprehension.", "I don’t know who this Travis Scott is, but based on the past week where I’ve got to know his name - he seems unsavory.", "Been seeing a lot of Travis Scott stuff lately for obvious reasons. Just want to say this guy fucking sucks. His music is garbage and he's garbage.", "ROFL you are so fucking pathetic and stupid all you can do is repeat the same tired nonsense \n\nshit for brains loser, good luck failing at everything in life\n\nmoron", "What a piece of shit.", "this is such a dumb fucking video though LOL \n\neveryone loves some music, art or sport. should we not pay for entertainment or art at all? Scientists should be getting paid for their contributions to whatever fields they work in, but that doesn't mean the artists who make your favorite games, music, movies don't deserve what they get, or that athletes who dedicate their entire lives to a craft don't deserve what they get either", "I mean no disrespect, but Travis is a real piece of shit.", "Nope you’ve repeatedly said it’s all on LiveNation and have made a weak attempt to look reasonable by saying ‘I’m sure Travis has some responsibility’ but what that is we will never know since you are deflecting everything onto the company he hired...\n\nYou just aren’t very bright, and you have done a terrible job articulating your point.", "Straight from the horses mouth.", "Travis : \"No disrespect\"\nAlso Travis : \"Who the fuck does he think he is?\"", "The company he hired to host an event and manage the crowds and safety, yes, I am defaulting to holding them primarily responsible.\n\nYou seem to be having a really hard time understanding how there were thousands of live nation staff who could objectively see the crowd better than him and could have stopped the show at any point.", "So never, gotcha.", ">It was an outdoor show and fans were running backstage until security was able to get control again.\n\nIt’s no surprise to me that a shitbag like this attracts fans who behave like shitbags too. These people have no dignity.", "True but the difference from past shows and astroworld is that people were getting injured at his shows and that’s expected but people died at astroworld and that’s not okay no matter how you try to twist it. Had it just been injuries he’d be fine but it was that and deaths tied with multiple opportunities to stop the show and help. He watched people being carried out while unconscious and even said “you want me to stop the show? Y’all know what you came here for” so it seems like he understood people were begging for the show to stop. Him and Kylie said they didn’t know about the deaths until after but more and more footage is coming out showing the opposite. Regardless how his lawyers try to play it he’s gonna go down for this in some way.", "I asked for people to point me in the right direction so I could get a better understanding but you thought it was a better idea to make fun of my lack of knowledge.\n\nI never claimed to be an expert. I was just telling you WHY I hadn't listened to much rap before. Grow up buddy.", "Wonder if this is part of a ‘show’? Don’t condone or like this guy but I’ve seen some stupid shit done just for ‘show’.", "Back to my original point. You have no idea where liability starts or ends...\n\nBlaming the company Travis Scott personally hired doesn’t help your point as much as you seem to think. It just makes you appear to be a moron.", ">Nuh uh, you look like a moron\n\nReal compelling points all around there bud.", "It's nice that all of the stuff is coming to light, but it's not going to matter if it's forgotten in a week like most things are these days.", "> hopsin\n\nare you seriously trying to say the most self important messiah complex rapper of all time IS NOT a narcissist? LOL", "This is what people are missing.", "He was really gonna kill her. Fucking Rihanna respect her name Fenty almost died that night fighting for her life trapped with that tiny dick piece of shit in that car. And he’s allowed to walk free and make music and make money off the music. Its disgusting. \n\nJust proof that anyone can be victimized. All the money and fame in the world can’t protect you when the danger is already in the house.", "My point was that you don’t understand liability at all...\n\nCalling you a moron was just a cherry on top.\n\nI didn’t grow up being told that belittling someone makes you wrong. I’m right and I’m much, much smarter than you.", "Tons of your favorite rock performers are also narcissistic. you have to be to perform at such a high level. Also this is a severely ignorant view of an entire genre", "This guy has a tiny fragile ego 😂😂", "Wow what a badass", "I'm starting to think that this guy might not be a good person.", "Yeah me no read good, carry on", "Thank you thank you. I also coined the term \"little weiner demeanor.\" They're yours now.", ">My point was that you don’t understand liability at all...\n\nAnd you expressed your point in such a compelling and convincing way! Such nuance you presented in why the event organizers who were hired to manage and monitor the crowd but didn't stop the show aren't responsible. \n\nYou definitely didn't just say the equivalent of \"nuh uh, you're wrong\" and then act superior.", "Its literally been 40 years of everyone telling them they look stupid and there's still people pretending it's just the olds", "yea what a piece of shit. and ffs dude... why even where pants at all? you look fucking stupid as hell lmao", "Well, athletes should be idolized", "I mean, I'm personally hoping the pinnacle of his future career will be the privilege of asking customers if they want fries with their order.", "The fact that you keep mentioning that he's a black man implies that you wouldn't give the same courtesy to a white artist. You wouldn't bring it up half a dozen times if you didn't think it was relevant.", "Pos belongs in jail for a long ass time.", "What a sack of shit.", "I don’t care about teaching you anything...\n\nIt was the education system and your parents that failed you.", "ah yes, i pointed out your immaturity so you stupidly repeated the same damn shit back at me\n\nexcellent\n\nyou're really doing great at this\n\nreally, acting like a dick from moment one, being absurdly dismissive and adversarial, how do you expect people to react to you? you have some problem and i'll tell you, i'm not it lol. you should take a deep look at yourself if you can manage to be honest. really, good luck, at this rate you'll need it\n\nmoron", "It's clear most people don't understand how concerts and festivals work. The venue manager is responsible for these things. As much as everyone is talking about Travis, he's just the one with his name in the lights, he's not the one responsible for supplying the right amount of tickets, the right amount of aid on standby, abiding by capacity limits, the right facilities etc...", "> Why are you so triggered by me raising the possibility of racism being at play in Reddit's response to something?\n\nYou think I'm triggered? lol that's hilarious. Keep playing the victim. Not going to continue wasting my time with somebody who just turns from one logical fallacy to the next all while being unable to see the idiocy.\n\nHave a good one. Watch out for the racist boogeymen who are to blame for everything negative in your life.", "No he's not lmao he's been making music since like 2013 and the name is inspired by Kid Cudi (Scott Mescudi)", "It’s cause you can say whatever you want now without getting your ass beat because everyone has a camera", "Stupid nerd with his dumb knowledge about videography and stupid degree making an honest living. What a fuckin’ nerd! Lol", "Yeah no.", "This comment is exactly the kind of thing I am talking about. You easily proved that you know nothing about the current Hip-Hop scene and you did the exact kind of demeaning I am speaking of. His music isn’t art because you say it isn’t? Astroworld was pretty universally acclaimed, and since Day’s Before Rodeo he has been a huge influence on not only his own genre but music in general. The guy’s production has always been top notch and whether you like or it not, the autotune crooner trap sound that he pioneered has been very popular and influential. Acting like he is some nobody “low talent” artist just shows that you have no idea what the fuck you are talking about. Also, what rappers does Reddit like? Eminem? Fucking Lil Dicky? You and most of the rest of this site is completely out of touch with modern music.", "He could’ve said all of that without the mic in his mouth but then I guess his fans wouldn’t know how cool he was for kicking an employee of the venue off the stage", "Girls look up the the kardashian family (jenner, whatever) and they have kids with guys like this", "Can I ask what events of the past decade or two lead you to believe awful behavior and scandal would end a celebrity career?", "Mf nathan forgot Logic, Eminems, Dax, Joyner Lucas, and Tom McDonald's", "Ok troll.", "Kind of using some Vulcan logic there, ironically. \n\nTravis is a nerd confirmed", "Kid cudi?", "eloquent in its brevity", "If someone has to say that they are an artist then.. are they really?", "I’m a artist", "As far as I'm aware, that started in schools. Lots of schools began amending their dress codes with clauses that underwear must not be visible underneath pants or shorts to try and curb people sagging. Easy way around that is to wear basketball shorts underneath.", "Interesting", "I smell an apology on Ellen's show 😍", "Wouldn't that be travis", "Lol he wearing baby gap slacks?! Shit this dood even dress like a lil kid...", "That is a video of someone pleading a cameraman to stop the show, not Travis Scott. Any actual evidence that he knew what was happening and decided to continue anyway?", "q pro", "Hes “an artist” not a diva /s", "I still barely know who this guy is. Apparently he's a dirtbag, and I still don't care.", "You are so cool bro", "IIRC, he only had indirect power over her. He was not her boss. She was a young comedian trying to break it in the comedy scene, so even though he asked for permission, she would have to consider the possibility that he could make her career more difficult or more easy.", "Insurance and refunds do not necessarily have to be regarding the same thing.\n\nI meant liability insurance. Travis Scott is now deemed reckless and potentially not insurable. Who would want to allow Travis Scott on their venue to do a show if he can't show proof of liability insurance. \n\nOr, now it will cost him so much it will cut into his profit and so back to the original comment thread, profit does make things go round - but my perspective was not that people will still work for Travis but Travis needs to get himself in line. There are bigger capital requirements required that he needs to meet, and my take is his liability insurance coverage. \n\nThis is also why I have such a high appreciation for insomniac events. They have become modern day party throwers on the most massive scale ever. There's one every month in different cities or countries. And you know they have to comply with specific permits and insurance requirement and risk their margins if not.", "TBH i didn't even know people listened to him still.", "Never heard of this guy until he and drake killed some people, but clearly he's a dickhead and bully. \n\nI hope he's forced into bankruptcy by these lawsuits.", "That’s so fucked up. Im not sure what type of seizures he has, but you can end up with brain damage if you don’t get to a hospital in a certain time frame. I have those types of seizures, and I give a little monologue explaining epilepsy when I stay the night somewhere, just in case. Though Id never assume someone would just leave.\n\nThe fact that Travis likely knew he had epilepsy and just fuckin left him is insane.", "Bigmad", "Seems you are the one with a sizable community arguing with you...\n\nAnother knock against your self awareness.", "Wow how did you figure out it was ignorant?\n\nWas it the part where I literally requested people to reccomend me more diverse rap music? Well done you can read 👏\n\nI also literally said \"music I hear\" not \"All rap music is like this\"", "Then he may be relegated to doing shows for the Karjenners & friends because nobody else will be able to afford tickets once insurance costs are factored in. GA for Astroworld was $365 this year.", "Oh wow, yeah, you're totally right, I never noticed that I was getting downvoted, and totally didn't start off this whole thread by basically stating \"all of these reddit posts are wrong\" and knowing that I would be downvoted to oblivion for going against the hive mind.\n\nBut enjoy being a sheep, there's comfort in the herd.", "This aged well", "I agree. But a lot of people think differently it seems. More than enough to keep him relevant.", "Ya nah ma dawg.", "Bro pull up your fucking pants ☠️", "Shows? Future?\n\nIf there's any justice left in the U.S. he will never be leaving prison. What shows are you talking about? He is responsible for 8 people dead. Manslaughter at the very least, murder if they can prove intent. I wouldn't be surprised if a family member doesn't kill him before his trial.", "r/thathappened", "Haha there ain't no probably about it, this is legit his thought process. \n\nHe only cares about money. Then when only caring about money blew up in his face, he's trying to control the damage so he doesn't lose even more money.\n\nWhat a time to be alive.", "My butt itches can anyone help me scratch it?!", "Travis Scott is a waste of air", "His fans are the same, I saw the videos ... Don't deny it.", "Fuck every single person who cheered that.\n\nActually, fuck everyone who stuck around after it happened.", "What a charming guy!\n\nThanks for sharing", "Get a degree instead of wasting your time getting taken to school...", "I do that job at times. You don't necessarily do any research before turning up, and you're rarely hired to film just one act. People will take the gig and be like \"ah fuck\" when they turn up and realise.", "You should listen to trey more cuz he spent the whole summer and fall telling us how much the entire community means to him and the band. That guy knows or a thing or two about a thing or two.", "you are spectacularly dumb\n\nim so sorry for you", "Lol, says the guy who never raised a single compelling counter argument beyond \"nuh uh\". Explain how Live Nation is not the obvious primary entity at fault or stfu.", "I am a pseudo-intellectual weaving dodgy narratives on a reddit forum. \nThey are an unconstructive critic that is just surfing reddit to dunk on people. \n \nSo what is your point? IMHO My whine is fine because all they're doing is trying to hold their criticism up to a higher standard than my original point which is bullshit because none of us have any standards. Nobody is marking or sourcing and this is all unsubstantiated drivel. Oh wait, except /u/bignutt69 's drivel, that shit is obviously on another level because.... er... . yeah, because they said so or something?", "“Kickin the camera man off of my stage, cuz I don’t like how he snappin’ my angles”", "Man if he and his fans could read they would hate these comments", "God Travis is such a dumb piece of shit wtf", "He is a performer and an artist. The camera man was messing with his performance.", "Those in glass houses...", "Yeah you have to be selective or really ignorant and a bad listener to only hear that type of rap when even in the mainstream that's not 90%. but go off", "This is the same issue rappers plagued by violence have… no one is going to take that risk.. this is going to be a landmark civil suit for real. They might bankrupt him.", "That word has never done more heavy lifting in its life", "It's one thing for a legal system to operate on higher principles, but that's due to the inherent fallibility of any legal system. But that does not mean that someone who incites violence, deserves none themselves. Someone who consistently, intentionally, and maliciously incites violence is deserving of the same. \n\n\nDoes that mean it's just to harm or murder someone who is deserving of it? No. But that doesn't mean someone like Travis Scott isn't deserving of whatever harm comes his way. Which is precisely what just deserts are. It being wrong to harm someone, regardless of what they deserve, and someone deserving to be harmed proportionately to the harm they cause are not mutually exclusive, and it's not a new dilemma. We can still remark that whatever harm comes to Travis Scott is well earned, while condemning whatever crazed fan he incited.", "Found the clueless mental midget. That line holds true btw. Much as you and I may hate it", "Did a similar thing [6 Years Ago](https://youtu.be/iK5z1ZyBTqE). He explains his reasoning, which is entirely his prerogative, but dude seems like a dick.", "Why does everyone conveniently forget this?\n\nhttps://www.huffpost.com/entry/who-did-louis-ck-shove-in-a-bathroom_n_5a04c6d8e4b01d21c83d7c9b", "How not to be a total piece of shit & and an asshole at the same time - watch Travis Scott", "The worst part is he actually wrote this into a hit song.", "Did he keep the show going or not?\n\nAnd people point to a hell of a lot more bands and artists than just Lamb of God, this is such a weird way of trying to discredit that argument.", "The burden of proof is on you...\n\nExplain how Travis Scott is not at fault for mass death at his own festival, as the event organizer, while he is performing. Your only explanation is ‘well he hired them to do it.’ I’m guessing if you were an actual lawyer this is when you would dramatically point across the room and try to grab your briefcase and run out away while everyone looks in the other direction.", "Why do people like him?", "People dont care as long as the artists make “good” music. As sad as the incidenct was, it’s just a turbulence.", "“How to be a Douchbag”", "Read again. You know being homophobic is as bad as being racist, right? Now YOU get the fuck out of here with YOUR shit.", "He even raves about this moment in his song “Antidote”. \n\nHe says, “kicking the camera man off of my stage’s, cause I don’t like how he’s snapping my angles.”", "You telling me or the rest?", "> How much stupid shit do you do that doesn't need to be called out on? \n\nOh, pretty much all of it. I think its a little bit of a difference that I don't sell my stupid shit to other people tho. If I did, sure people would think it sucked and shit talk me. Its only human.", "This guy is a piece of shit.", "To be fair, I call everyone a nerd because it's fun to say and I don't view it as derogatory at all, I actually look up to nerds the most and have profound respect for anyone who can maintain focus enough on a single subject to become a master.", "He'll just have his marketing switched to appeal to the crowd that can afford it. Look at Fyre festival, idiots with money are still idiots. It's all a numbers game.", "Cool and you're not helping fix that in the slightest, all your comment did was make me feel bad, so thanks, great contribution.", "This is the story from the camera man!\n\nhttps://youtu.be/xpeZ4t6CfJA", "I’m thinking changing my name to Mike Honcho and buying a tea kettle.", "I will never forgive him for ruining the Super Bowl.", "Or \"I've processed it and reached the wrong conclusion\", for sure.", "If that’s what you interpreted it as the that’s what it is.", "I have a spotify playlist entitled \"I kry evraytihme\" which has \"He Say, She Say\" and \"The Instrumental\" on it. Great tracks.", "But you’re not openly lauding anyone else. There are normal people who do multiple good and kind acts everyday and nobody cares. A celebrity does one good thing a year and then goes back to being greedy and selfish the 364 other days of the year and everyone praises them like a god for it. And a lot of times it’s fake. \n\nI worked at a food bank once and Ben Affleck came in. There was a huge stink about it. We had to have multiple meetings about it. The place shut down for the day. Affleck comes in, “works” for about 30 seconds so they can take pictures, walks around for about 3 more minutes taking picture, and then leaves. Front page of the paper the next day is Ben Affleck volunteering at the food bank. He gets lauded as a hero when not only did he not do shit, but he caused major disruptions that prevented the food bank from doing its job and getting food to starving people. Meanwhile, what about the people running the place who have been there every day for 30 years and have dedicated their lives, when they could do anything else, to helping the needy and they can’t even get a cost of living raise because that’s money coming out of the program? What about the volunteers who have been coming every week for years? What about the people making regular large donations? Nobody cares.", ">Explain how Travis Scott is not at fault for mass death at his own festival, as event organizer, while he is performing.\n\nI have. Repeatedly. There's the fact that even though it's his festival, he hired Live Nation to manage the crowds, security, emergency response, AV, etc, leaving Live Nation with the full ability to end the concert at any point. There's the fact that when you're on stage, you have a million spot lights shining directly on your face, making it difficult to clearly see anything that happening in darkness, i.e. the thousands of fans in the crowd. And there's the fact that there are hundreds of live nation staff all throughout the crowd, who don't have lights shining in their faces, and are actually pulling bodies out of the crowd, and yet Live Nation didn't stop the show? \n\nI have already explained all of why I think Live Nation is likely primarily at fault in previous comments, but summed it up above in case you're struggling to remember. Now your turn, how is Travis Scott more at fault than the event planners who were in the crowd pulling bodies out and let the show keep running for half an hour after the fire department told them it was a mass casualty event?", "It don’t matter the year, I cannot stand live concerts.", "I'm all for this Travis Scott hate bandwagon. \n\nBeen here for a while, glad to see peeps catching up.", "Pull your god damn pants up.", "Piece of shit trash Travis Scott.", "This is why it keeps coming back to you not understanding how liabilities works...\n\nHiring someone doesn’t absolve you of liability.\n\nBecause he hired them. That’s the answer to your question.", ">Phd professors in biology\n\n>They were not dumbasses.\n\nAre you sure about that?", "Yep. Think about it. \n\nFor people to die in a stampede, you need the stampede.", "That's not what I said in that comment at all. Read it again, and explain why you think that Live Nation is not the primary entity at fault, or stfu.", "I think the one him doing the robot over like 5 people all laid out being resuscitated right in front of the stage is the worst one", "Idk it seems like the more videos that are circulated only show how fucked astroworld really was. You say “he couldn’t have known” yet there’s videos showing he understood there was some sort of issue. You say “what was he supposed to do” you can see the numerous times he’s stopped his shows for something like kicking a photographer off the stage,getting fans in the crowd to beat someone up over his shoe,etc. there so much to this that just screams he could’ve and should’ve done better but allowed it to happen bc he simply didn’t care. Even that light skinned apology didn’t seem sincere. But I feel you for the doubts.", "At the very least, he should have stopped the show but he instead chose to make things worse. To put sole blame on Live Nation just lets Travis Scott off the hook for his role. You obviously have said it wasn’t his fault but you’re wrong.", "I literally just explained it to you...\n\nThey will both be in court defending themselves while you are on Reddit trying to defend one of them.\n\nI see you’ve arrived at indignantly repeating yourself.", "“Artist”", "Can stop for the camera guy, can stop for his sneaker, but a lifeless crowd surfer? Nah it’s lit.", "Uh… huh? \n\nAs I said, it’s bad and gross and not cool. I’m not his fan and I think he’s disgusting. And what he didn’t isn’t comparable to rape.\n\nNot how what works?\n\nAnd do you actually think he thinks this? I don’t. I think everyone rushes to agree with the vocal minority of woke social media to avoid being crucified.", "This guys music is trash and he’s a bum. He doesn’t belong on a stage.", "The only thing more sad than a factory-made rapper: A factory-made rapper who idolizes another factory-made rapper.", "I was thinking the same thing. Reasonable for triage, but pretty fucked up for a life philosophy.", "Steamie nicks just gets up on stage and shits her britches!", "Stop idolizing politicians as well. We create these “bigger than life” monsters because the masses elevate them and treat their opinions as gospel.", "What a homo", "You're right, him continuing to perform while he watches with his own eyes as his fans are trampled to death then dances while their corpses are hauled off is all because nobody told him to stop....Except they did ask him to stop. In fact they began to chant \"stop the show\" here is a link.\n\nhttps://nypost.com/2021/11/06/travis-scott-performed-at-astroworld-concert-as-crowd-told-him-to-stop/", "You didn't explain anything about why you think Live Nation is not the primary entity at fault. \n\nIf your explanation is \"we'll wait and see for the results of the investigations before assigning blame\" then you shouldn't be endorsing the tidal wave of gut reaction blame being directed at Travis Scott right now.", "I shoot converts and having a small hole to shoot through would be so impractical and limiting, it would make it pointless.", "Children can be terrifying.", "IM A ARTISS", "He was already famous or she wouldn’t have known him in the first place. He has a few cool songs and videos (that are now ruined for me forever).", "I think it's the repeated pattern of Travis Scott inciting crowds to violence regardless of the venue that's causing people to pin it on him. Obviously the venue should have been aware of this and not hired him, so that part is on them.", "I sincerely hope this overhyped fuckstick is sued into irrelevancy.", "Holy shit Reddit becomes so racist whenever a rapper does something bad. This thread is insane.", "It’s literally that Travis Scott hired them.\n\nAt his festival, for his performance...\n\nThe reason you think he’s innocent is why I’m telling you he isn’t. That’s why I keep bringing up your lack of comprehension regarding liability. Remember dumb dumb?", "I always like this video of travis; https://youtu.be/-ckJIHdMOVg", "“Artist”", "I dont think his fans can afford tickets past a certain point.", ">This is America, \n\nDon't catch you slippin now", "What a fucking loser POS", "The first of the lawsuits was filed today. I'd expect him to lose everything, having exhibited a pattern of dangerous behavior and having been warned by the police on the scene not to do exactly what he did last week. He's done.", "I hope there is a shit ton of law suits on his ass for this.", "You're totally right here, and the people downvoting you are being imbecilic. Or worse, they don't wanna hear what you're saying, because it makes them uncomfortable and they're unwilling to face that aspect of their personalities. \n\nWhat he did was wrong, because of the fucking implications. Sure, he probably never would have \"forced\" himself on a woman, not physically. But he was forcing himself on them circumstantially. And as your comment further down quotes, he learned that lesson and understands that what he did was wrong.\n\nPeople like /u/Yoma73 are part of why rape culture is still so rampant in this country. At best, they turn a blind eye to it, blaming the victim instead of recognizing the real problem at hand. At worst, they root for the perpetrator, saying there was no issue, the imbalance of power is a nonexistent problem.", "“Artist” lol\n\nYou’re a puppet you dumb mother fucker. Turn on your auto tune and dance bitch.", "If I hire an engineer to build a building for me and that building fails, that is the fault of the engineer, not of me, unless I specifically overruled them or cheaped out on hiring an engineer that I knew was shoddy in the first place. \n\nSo again, do you have any evidence whatsoever that Live Nation tried to stop the show or cut him off and he overruled them? As far as I can tell, he stopped the show 4 times when saw injured people, and Live Nation stopped the show zero times as their staff were pulling dozens of unconscious bodies out of the crowd.", "No. You do not understand how liability works.\n\nWe are all dumber for having read your elementary understanding of the law. Ironically cases involving building failures typically have multiple parties held responsible. Like you know, how LiveNation and the person that hired them, founded and organized the festival will both be named in lawsuits...", "I hope this is the end of his career.", ">....Except they did ask him to stop. In fact they began to chant \"stop the show\" h\n\nOh hey a third way. This isn't even what I was referencing.\n\nThere's been reddit experts saying that early in the show he said \"nah we not doing that\" so it must have been related to this. Others said he had an in ear monitor telling him to stop and he refused.\n\nThose are the two not yet proven things I was referencing.", "I'm a professional engineer who has taken multiple courses on professional liability, and written multiple case studies on building failures and who is at fault and liable, and guess what, it's never the client unless they specifically overruled the engineer, withheld information from them, or went behind their back. \n\nBut thank you for admitting that you're incapable of explaining your thoughts ~~and finally shutting the fuck up at least.~~", "What a loser lol, how anybody enjoys listening and especially paying for anything this guy creates is beyond me...", "Meanwhile, [Dave Grohl stopped a concert](https://youtu.be/v7QCndx3tCo) because he saw a guy fighting with somebody. \"Look up here, look at me,\" he said. \"Get the fuck out out of my show, right now. You don't come to my show to fight, you come to my show and dance, you asshole!\"", "Well. Stop doing any shit for him. Get everyone together and have a good long break until his dumbass is off the stage", "“I’m not a racist, but…”", "He’s such a POS and so is his gf.", "Call him out on the hypocrisy next time he eats food", "Calling someone a nerd when you’re the guy who had a concert in Fortnite is kind of ironic, right?", "complete and utter piece of shit", "I don't often wish people back luck in their careers.\n\nThis guy tho? Oof.", "Jo basically birds of a feather flock together.", "You think people are just \"hating\" on this kid? Dude encouraged his fans to kill each other through either malice or complete incompetence.", "That dude looks ridiculous and acts accordingly.", "So why again did McDonald's make a meal after this piece of shit?", "Best comment yet ☝🏼", "Listen to those cheers as he bullies someone off the stage. I agree with you.", "No. You do not understand how liability works.\n\nWe are all dumber for having read your elementary understanding of the law. Ironically cases involving building failures typically have multiple parties held responsible. Like you know, how LiveNation and the person that hired them, founded and organized the festival will both be named in lawsuits...\n\nEdit: I added this to help you.", "Vile human being", "> The only people who can hurt him\n\nTravis Scott has sponsorships with McDonald’s, Nike, PlayStation and Fortnite. [Source.](https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2020/11/30/travis-scott-sponsorship-earnings/)", "A travisty", "There will always be popular people. There are just some people that others are drawn to.", "if you watched the Channel 5 (formerly All Gas No Brakes) coverage of some terrible rap concert recently, you'll know the quality of humans that support this type of filth.", "Yikes", ">No. You do not understand how liability works.\n\nSo how are you enjoying those Live Nation paychecks you dumb troll? You sound like a fucking parrot who doesn't understand anything more than the surface level of words.\n\nExplain why Live Nation would not be the primary entity at fault with your ample legal expertise, or shut the fuck up.", "This is a travis shit show.", "If Travis Scott's character is a surprise to you then you ought to think a little bit more in general", "That's outrageous! Who is Travis Scott and why are they on a stage?", "Man, as someone who works in live production and has been hearing nightmare stories about Travis Scott for atleast the last 5 years, it's really nice to see him get shit on all over social media. Dude is a final boss level douchebag from what I've heard, and his recent assholery is just icing on the shit cake. I really wouldn't be surprised if he's in prison for some Takeshi 69 type shit in the next 5 years", "I hope the lawsuits from his disaster in Houston ruin him.", ">They are literally both being named to the lawsuits!\n\nThat doesn't mean they'll both be found liable or equally liable. At this point both entities are being sued regardless, and it's in Live Nation's interest to have the general public narrative be one that places all the blame at Travis Scott's feet instead of theirs.", "untip your fedora bro", "$365 GA HOLY FUCKING SHIT.", "I've never heard of him, but he sounds like a doss cunt.", "I'd call him a cunt, but he lacks the warmth or depth", "“Fuck Travis who?”", "Because while I have actually explained my reasoning, repeatedly, you have yet to explain yourself beyond \"the courts will answer things\", \"his name is on the sign\", and \"you don't know what you're talking about\", none of which are actual arguments or remotely close to compelling reasoning.", "I see Travis Scott is paying people to boost his presence on social media.\n\nStop making stupid people famous.", "why you gotta pull someone else down when you wanna say smth? Its ugly.", "It's not funny given the gravity of the situation, but these videos watch like satire. It's almost unbelievable when you see paramedics doing cpr and he's on stage with the autotune cranked up", "Nobody witnessed or filmed it though.", "Which is why I'm no longer a Lil dicky fan either. Guy made a song with Brown glorifying Brown as some sort of cool ladies man ....", "Eight dead, at least 25 injured during crowd surge at Travis Scott’s Astroworld music festival https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/music/story/2021-11-06/at-least-8-dead-and-several-injured-at-music-festival-in-houston-officials-say", "Please do point to any evidence you have that shows Travis Scott did any of those things.", "Travis Scott hired a company to promote his festival and his performance...\n\nYou claim the only party responsible is the one he hired. Stupidity ensues.", "Not worth it", "Did you ever hear the tragedy of Travis Scott The Unwise?", "Again, I have never once claimed that Live Nation is the only party responsible, I have claimed that they are the primary party responsible, and explained why I thought so. Still waiting on you to do the same. If you're going to respond again with something dumb that I've already refuted like \"but his name is on the sign\" please don't bother.", "Nailed it. The vibes have really been similar to Funnyjunk.com when I was in highschool. So lame.", "It’s even more crazy cause his music is trash..", "Kid Cudi's real name is Scott Mescudi.", "He won't get talented people. He'll get their nieces and nephews and of he's lucky one of them won't shoot him with a blank.", "Which song in particular do you dislike?", "This guy is trash", "I thought I was running out of battery and got really annoyed because I just unplugged my phone from an overnight charge.", "Imma artiss bruuh! \n\nDude can barely even speak and calls himself an \"artist\". What a joke.", "That's the thing genius. I don't feel any guilt or shame associated with people calling Travis Scott a piece of shit, because he's a piece of shit. Maybe you should reflect inwardly the next time you feel like pulling the race card where it doesn't apply.", "yah his girlfriend is Kylie Jenner so he won't be doing that. I don't think he's that stupid???!! In fact she is currently pregnant with another offspring of his.", "Simply sounds like you were a pawn in a premeditated stunt. All planned. But what do you expect while hanging around hateful trash? Respect? 😂", "its interesting, travis seemingly got the rage gimmick inspired from cudi. cudi called himself a rager, but the lyrics in his songs tell the tale of how the rage lifestyle has stunted his personal growth and kept him in his depression. travis chose to embrace it as a way to live free with no fear, using reckless abandon every time you rage", "doesnt it get annoying walking around with your pants like that..?", "Wasn't his response literally saying that he didn't know there was a problem", "If he dies in a car crash who would think it’s addition by subtraction?", "I don’t have to do the same.\n\nBurden of proof is on you to convince others to agree with your view. Haven’t had a single convert so far. I’ve seen you sheepishly claim that’s the fault of the ‘hive mind’ while dismissing your pathetically inarticulate argument that compartmentalizes responsibility in a hilarious way. It conveniently excludes the founder, event organizer and performer. The same person, mind you...", "People paid their own money to attend this? Seriously? I assumed this was a PAID crowd. Asin paid a lot to endure the show for purposes of video recording and publicly for this Travis person. People actually bought tickets????? Lol omg!!!! Who in the world does that???? People are just more stupid than I can wrap my head around.", "Many musicians have their viewpoints and thoughts as a central part of the music they create. That’s not the case with this person, but it is with plenty others. Saying people shouldn’t care about the thoughts of musicians at all doesn’t really work.", "And Astroworld refunded every ticket holder. I'm not sure how the money is distributed but Scott gets none of it if it's all giving back", "When the cops asked to talk to him after Astroworld he just said \"Charge me with the usual\". Drake is also being sued as he joined this idiot onstage after people were being crushed. RIP to all those unfortunate ones.", "Exactly their different sides of the same coin", "Remember kids. It's a TEAM effort to be famous but a solo journey to be lower than pig shit.", "I know we're busy tearing down Travis Scott, but he used to be well known for obscuring his face in all media. Clearly, the bit of news didn't make it from his team to camera/photography team in your case.\n\nAs a photographer myself (I worked as a concert photographer for a little while), I know I'd have been just as confused as well if suddenly I had to be kicked out - unless I actually knew the artist beforehand.\n\nI'm a fan of a small band called Emotional Oranges and they do the same thing, or they did at least, so I don't find it unusual.", "Lmfao. Can't even explain or justify your own thought processes, and think you don't have to because you've garnered more arbitrary popularity points. America in a nutshell right here folks.", "https://i.imgur.com/MRB3dSC.png", "\"Im a artist\"\n\nOoooooooh. He thinks he's like Kanye or something - actually doing interesting stuff in the industry. Oh no, Travis, honey, you're not that. You're not changing the game.", "Now for my next trick ladies and gentlemen, you’ve seen him squirm before but now like you have never seen before...\n\nWho hired LiveNation?", "If they bring their opinion into the art you are paying for then It's fair game to care. But if a Celebrity is Anti Gun or Anti VAX or Pro Choice or Flat Earth or whatever and it's not in the service or art I am paying for then I could not care less.", "I've already explained why that doesn't make a difference in who is primarily at fault, unless you have evidence that Travis Scott overruled Live Nation, withheld information, or went behind their backs. \n\nTry again.", "What a disgusting excuse for a human he is. On another subject who else tapped the screen to closed the 20% battery life notification?", "Yeah if we’re having that convo. You kinda have to be to be a rapper these days. I mean watch their music videos, it’s all glitz and glamor, all about them", "Hey The Beatles weren’t just a band! /s", "Society will find something else to be mad at and forget about this in a few weeks/months.", "you're right didn't need to be an ass about it.", "Once it was clear that the show was compromised and people were just running in left and right, it should have been postponed. And yeah don’t bring children to rap shows where there is definitely going to be drugs violence etc", "Dude it's even worse. He says \"Don't disrespect (me), I'm an artist\" lmao he's so self centered he wouldn't even consider disrespecting someone else, aka a douchebag", "This is true. He was egging them on to do this. He wanted that to feel like he had power over his fans. It’s a megalomaniac thing", "ok", "Well yeah duh, and actors too. Just not rappers /s", "WTF, people actually PAY to see this DIPSHIT prance around on stage with his pants hanging off his ass? What a fucking disgrace.", "I’ll take a total piece of shit for $50 Alex", "I get where your going but being a multi platinum artist isn't easy regardless of how you feel. Being a stage hand or camera man etc is on the other hand, still no reason to shit on the poor dude for looking some way while doing his job.", "Human trash… all the gold & money can’t buy a decent personality", "Good actors for sure, like squid game", "Okay.... now I'm not saying he didn't do this, and I'm not saying he did. But what exactly is this accusing him of? Shoving somebody? Into a bathroom? Were they in the bathroom together? Was this sexual in any way? This story has like no details to it.", "Lol. not near as much of an asshole as you. Have a good one.", "XD XD XD", "Tbf, he is talented at making music even though his music is not my thing. But you can be a talented artist and a trash human being at the same time.", "What does their name rhyme with?", "Just like people are. Most people are okay and helpful but some dipshits ruin it for everyone else.", "at this point im waiting for some travis scott news to emerge with a transperson involved and expecting a new dave chapelle special", "He’s dating and having babies with the famous people he’ll be alright and be touring again like this soon enough. I wish it wasn’t that way but money and power have no limits in this world. So sad all those kids died it’s worth mentioning anytime he’s brought up. Ruined family’s and devastated parents. Horrible, dark shit.", "I didn’t know who this was til yesterday but fuck this guy", "Man i wish i was tall lol", "This man is a role model to his young fans. Think about that. Not a good thing.", "You: Implies a shitty person being criticized for being shitty is because of racism\n\nMe: Says hey man its probably just because he's a shitty person\n\nYou: Creates fallacious arguments to the point where it's hard to believe you aren't actually just trolling.\n\nSo yes, you are the bigger asshole.", "What is with people who feel the need to defend a country? Like, do you take insults against the US personally or something?", "\"I'm an artist\"he says to someone trying to practice the ART of videography. K", "Then what does your question mean? It was pretty simple. Why is he good, unique, or different?", "Fuck Travis Scott. He's a piece of shshut.\n\n\n\"I'M an ArTiST.\"", "Honestly I was thinking the same thing. Not even from his own crazy fans but there's so so so many concert goers metal heads, hippies, dead heads, edc ravers, burning man crowd, ozzfest crowd, the warp tour crowd, old school rock fans, folk fans hell jazz fans theres so many people out there that routinely go to shows that were mortified and disgusted by Travis Scott's behavior. That are angry and disgusted that he let people die and kept going. At an event that's meant to be make people feel good. Music shows are one of the purest and most important part of human culture. They're meant for happiness, peace, love and community. They are communal events and to see him time and time again create this horrible climate at his shows is repulsive. He doesn't control what individuals due but he is just as influential as a preacher or a cult leader when the fans are under his spell. Usually that's a good thing and it creates a good environment like all those screaming girls for the Beatles but he twists that power to cause violence and mayhem resulting in serious injuries snd death multiple times now. The artist controls the crowd and the tempo and thats displayed in the massive post of all the other bands stopping shows. Alot of people don't understand that. These crazed fans were his creation and every death after he knew about the crisis are on him. And alot of music fans think he should be charged and completely canceled cuz he keeps doing this. There's alot of unhinged, drugged out music fans out there who would love to see him dead. And like that person joking underneath alot of people want to see consequences for the shit he keeps doing. \n\nI never wish ill on anyone but Travis scott deserves every ounce of bad karma coming his way. He does not deserve the clout he has. Same with his girlfriend. She can have anyone yet is sexually and romantically attracted to this man's extreme antisocial and disgusting behavior. I used to kind of respect Kylie but not anymore this all is disgusting and disturbing and shame on her. She is not the lesser in the relationship she holds far more power than him which enables him to act this way. He would not be as powerful. Untouchable, or famous as he is if not for her. Sure he'd be successful but she provides true power. She can have absolutely anyone yet she chose this man, she chose to have his child and carry his second child and forever be linked to him. She wanted to raise kids with this man, let that sink in.\n\nI think it's time we all reflect on the people we choose to give power and support to and if their values align with ours. If the internet can cancel people like Gina Carano who made a bone headed mistake, or the guitarist from Mumford and sons for reading Andy ngo's book than they can cancel these two too.\n\nThey showed us their true colors. Look at the fans begging and that brave girl seanna. Kylie had fun taking pics thou and Travis kept going. Knowing there were deaths, watching unconscious bodies be taken out. And they got off to it, or it would have ended. Kylie could have stopped it in a second, Travis could have stopped instantly, but they enjoyed it. At worst they're so self absorbed where the death of children doesn't matter only their own egos and travis's performance. Thats disgusting. It's sick if anyone deserves to be canceled its these two and anything bad that comes travis's way is deserved", "Reddit loves to hop on the hate train and feed their confirmation bias.", "\"With all due respect, Mr. Dennit, I had no idea you’d gotten experimental surgery to have your balls removed.”", "If I were that cameraman, I would have spat in his face in front of all of his fans lol", "It’s really sad america got so dumbed down over the decades. \n\nLegit sub80 IQ is gonna be the norm.", "His autotune is irrelevant at this point", "Not going to lie, I was somewhat giving him the benefit of the doubt about how he was simply ignorant about Astroworld this year since people were saying he literally orchestrated it and wanted people to die. But this pretty much proves he’s an actual twat and likely just doesn’t give a shit at all. What a fuckin cunt.", "Lmfao, says the moron who can't explain his argument.", "From 1984: doublethink.\n\nIt's a process of indoctrination where you are conditioned, by propaganda or other means, to simultaneously accept two mutually contradictory beliefs as correct.\n\nIn modern times, it is further derived to be associated with doublespeak, which is often part of the indoctrination.\n\nThese people are doublethinking, doublespeaking cultists.", "I don’t want to hear another word from his mouth ever again.", ">Okay.... now I'm not saying he didn't do this, and I'm not saying he did. \n\nI don't say this with the intent to sound rude, but it doesn't matter what you say he did or didn't do...because it was Louis himself who made this confession. \n\n>But what exactly is this accusing him of?\n\nNobody is accusing him of anything, they're inferring that Louis has had a long pattern of this sort of behavior since he erroneously apologized for another unrelated incident that involved a completely different woman. How many times have you sexually harassed/assaulted someone that you lose track of them?\n\n>Shoving somebody? Into a bathroom?\n\nThat's what Louis said he did, but I wasn't there.\n\n>Was this sexual in any way? \n\nI'm assuming it was, since he included the apology for this in with the apology he was already making for whipping his dick out. \n\n>This story has like no details to it.\n\nLiterally every single question you asked was answered with information in the article. People on here will bend over backwards to defend Louis C.K. because he's an excellent comedian, then they cry foul over guys like Chris Brown and Roman Polanski not getting shunned by their respective industries.", "[Stephen A Smith doesn't agree with you](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufHvG-fJ6ao)", "XD XD XD \n\nStill waiting for you to explain your reasoning from the other thread...", "His music is terrible. I'm not sure why he has such a huge audience.", "Okay.", "I mean that's largely true of everything, not just the wealthy. For every person arrested for a crime, orders of magnitude more get away with it. The wealthy certainly are provided extra leniency, but IMO that's been trending downwards in recent history. It's easier than ever to bring attention to negative behavior on a large scale, and R Kelly, Bill Cosby, various people in Hollywood and others have been receiving punishments they previously wouldn't have. \n\nIt's a long road, but progress is slowly being made. Hopefully what happened at Astroworld does have consequences.", "> Enjoy being triggered by critical race theory numbskull.\n\nWhy would I be triggered by CRT?\n\nThis comment alone shows that you have no idea who you're talking to my guy.", "Lmao at sheltered kids who can't comprehend this is true.", "You really thought you did something here", "He had a few catchy songs with good beats", "When I initially read the headline about a Travis Scott concert in Texas, I assumed he was a country singer lol", "in all seriousness, mainstream music is garbage at the moment though. From hip-hop to pop, metal to techno. \n\nAt the same time, the music scene at large is better than it has ever been. There's more banging new music out there than ever before, its not even hard to find it. There is so much good shit out there, but people are listening to radio 1 dreck and whatever's on the front page of youtube, because they won't spend 5 minutes actually looking for good shit.\n\nIf not being interested in songs where a man says \"I have a big willy, but also, get this - a lot of money\" on loop for album after album, makes you a pensioner in the eyes of reddit, then so be it, lol.", "I think it depends on the context. At work I've used it a few times when someone's really messing up and it'll usually be like, \"Not to be disrespectful here, but X Y Z (negative things) have happened, what's going on\". \n\nI've certainly seen it used just as someone tries to insult someone too", "> You keep saying that and then I explain how Travis Scott hired them at his festival for hid performance and then you cave and say that you know it’s his fault to seem reasonable\n\nYes you do keep coming back with the dumb point of \"but he hired them\" and I repeatedly refute it by pointing out that when you hire a company to be in charge of safely organizing an event, unless you overrule them, withhold information from them, or sabotage them intentionally, then they are the entity who is primarily at fault when there are safety issues with the event.\n\nThen I ask you if you have any information of evidence to show that Travis Scott did any of those things, and you tend to shut the fuck up or change the topic.", "“No fair, how come I don’t get to say the n word?”", "And this is when I explain how that’s absolutely not true and you need to include a source or improve your understanding of legal liability...", "AGAIN, explain why it's not true, or shut the fuck up. \"NUH UH\" isn't an argument no matter how many times you say it.", "Mental damage is greater than physical damage I suppose?", "Remember the burden of proof is on you...\n\nYou are trying to set the terms, but I’ve already told you that isn’t how liability works and you’ve done nothing to disprove that. Your entire argument collapses, you’ve got nothing and you go home a loser.", "When hot97 is there, you know itll be nothing but class", "Normally you’d be right but his girlfriend is Kylie Jenner, and that family would probably have something to say about it lol", "\"I am Lorde yeah yeah yeah\"", "$365 to listen to a vocaloid??? Why? I'd rather set the money on fire than to give it to some talentless diva.", "Maybe that's what happens when the dissonance is autotuned?", "Lmfao, there's no burden of proof on anyone, I'm not a fucking prosecutor. I'm someone who is explaining my reasoning to a brick wall that's incapable of saying anything other than \"he hired them\" and \"but both are being sued\".", "I will never understand why individuals so completely devoid of any discernable talent have such monstrous egos and rabid fan bases.", "If you like anything post 2005 you have bad taste.", "I learned this when I watched a Bronx Tale when I was like 7. \n\n\"Mickey Mantle? That's what you're upset about? Mantle makes $100,000 a year. How much does your father make? If your father can't pay the rent go ask Mickey Mantle and see what what he tells you. Mickey Mantle don't care about you. Why should you care about him? Nobody cares.\"", "literally Hitler tbh", "The nword was in the lyrics. It’s not like she just said the nword to him. If you don’t want people singing nword during your songs, don’t put the nword into your lyrics. Not a hard concept.", "There’s a big difference between a black person and a white person saying the n word. I don’t know if you’re feigning ignorance or just are ignorant", "I don’t know why you are omitting context in this situation. The nword is in the lyrics.", ">>juvenile \n\nListen to clipping or RTJ and come back crying after you shit your pants you baby", "You came on here to harass people speaking for the dead, but you brought something back...\n\nI’m going to haunt you.", "Fuck off", "The entertainment business sucks for this reason. Any industry with \"talent\" that awful industry term for the person the audience pays to see. I much prefer \"the face\", because most of the time they have little-to-zero actual talent. \n\nThe talented people are the production staff that turn the singer warbling into a microphone into music. The people who turn the actor poncing around in front of the camera into a film. The people who take verbal diarrhea from the creative director and turn it into a video game. \n\nThats where the talent is.\n\nNot to say there are no talented singers, actors, or game makers out there, that's ludicrous, but the truly talented famous people are the ones who WORK WITH the team. They ARE the production staff as much as a runner or a rigger, a 3D artist, a coder or a backing vocalist. They don't separate themselves, because they're invested in the end product.", "This guys needs to check his ego", "Yeah aha that's why I kept it", "Geez didn’t know who this guy was at the beginning of the week. Can say now with confidence he’s a douche who doesn’t deserve fame.", "You don’t even know the difference between pitch correction and auto tune. Ofc auto tune was originally released as pitch correction, but it sucked so badly that it’s used exclusively as a vocal effect nowadays. Pitch correction is used so commonly nowadays, that even though you can rarely hear it, artists are VERY open about using it for studio releases. If you actually think auto tune like this is an attempt at pitch correction instead of an effect, you should download any free DAW and any free pitch correction tool you can find. It’s incredibly easy to use, and as long as your singing voice is close already, the correction will be nearly inaudible. Pretending that hip hop artists use auto tune like this to correct pitch just to shit on them is a decade old joke at this point.", "As low as his pants?", "Please post this next time r/AskReddit is there for shitty celebrities.", "I would like to box him.", "He’s had some catchy songs with good beats", "Hopefully he will get arrested and charged with Manslaughter as his behavior and encouragement led directly to the deaths of his fans in Texas.", "Bunch of \"temporarily embarrassed gangstas\"", "Imagine paying that much for THAT experience. Even without the deaths, injuries, etc, it looked like the worst shit show.", "I don't know him and a 24 second clip is enough for me to hate him and whatever he does. I guess I'm not his target audience.", "lol wut?", "Interesting. I had a similar experience with Elizabeth Warren when I was helping make scarves for the homeless. Do you think praising celebrities always falls into this trap?", "Should be more concerning that you're virtue signalling about race when literally nobody else has even mentioned race.\n\nYou can consider it a dogwhistle if it makes you feel better. It is quite obvious to anybody that isn't consciously and constantly trying to make everything into a race thing that it wasn't.\n\nDon't project your immediate assumption of racism onto me, thanks. It's rude.", "Travis Scott, 2021: \n\nhttps://youtu.be/9E62iA6KCIQ", "That really has not been my experience in the slightest so I’m sorry that’s how it’s been for you.", "When was that even implied? Awful lot of projection going on in these replies...", "If it is dating, married to or related to a kartrashian then duh, yes they’re trash people.", "He's a little bitch.", "He’s so far up himself it’s cringe AF. And he’s saying all of this BS with his pants down? His whole saggy-ass underwear hanging out? IDGI.", "I'm starting to get the idea that this Travis fellow isn't such a great guy", "They didn’t even indirectly work for him. They were just other comedians. Less successful than Louis, but not working for him in any way.", "My top 3 guesses:\n\nBlue Jeans\n\nBud Light\n\nChevy", "Welcome to the internet, it's okay to curse here.", "Chris Brown has entered the chat.", "Sounds like he’s always been a douche and it finally hit him in the ass", "They can say no to a gig. Choice. I would think that noone would want to put someone in this position of being attacked for doing their job.", "McDonalds actually.", "Didn’t mean all rap is shitty. Just a lot of the really mainstream stuff these days is devoid of interesting lyrics, and the underlying tracks aren’t good musically. I’m all for well done rap with good lyrics but not this “bitches money clout drugs” narcissistic stuff. It’s been beat to death and I’d rather not listen to a song about how rich and awesome some person is. But that goes with any genre. Not gna listen to a rock song about how cool a person is, how much money they have, and how much women they get", "There’s a huge difference between stopping the show and briefly pausing. If you’ve seen the Billie eilish clip of her helping people at her show, that’s stopping the show. She actually cares about the safety of her fans though.", "Travis Scott is so much better than Hopsin lol", "I keep hearing the \"you can't see the crowd!\" Argument. This isnt a shitty hole in the wall inside venue. Every single dj I follow has there buddy video them from the back while mixing and you can see the whole damn crowd. Multiple DJs that's post every night on their stories. I just don't believe he couldn't see what was going on. There was even footage of Travis scott calling a fan out in the crowd who was hanging from a tree.", "Did I mention race? You should check again. \n\nAs is clear even from your own response there is a difference in between what is said and what is understood. \n\nPlease define \"these people\". It is not clear who fits the description of \"trash\". Rappers? Musicians? Performers? Insulters? Narcissists? \n\nEveryone who upvoted your comment probably doesn't even agree with your version of \"these people\". They just substituted their prejudice into the blank because your comment is entirely unclear.", "This Travis Scott guy needs to go", "Just rappers...?", "Now that's art I can appreciate. A freshly made, delicious tasting sub made by our trained and friendly staff. slogan.\n\nNot a paid shill.", "Even if the hole was large enough to fit the whole camera through? Seems to me this would be pretty normal in a lot of instances where people want on stage recording but what visual continuity.", "IDK going mononymously as \"Jacques\" would be kinda dope", "I live in the hood. “No disrespect” is what dudes say when they realize a conversation with another dude might go sideways. Gang bangers in my neighborhood will ALWAYS start a conversation with me by saying “no disrespect” when they need something from me. The difference is they actually mean it (and I don’t want those conversations to go sideways either). This dude is using hood speak in a way that tells me is either A.) not actually from the hood but wants to seem hard or B.) has gotten way too close to getting his ass knocked out and does it out of habit. \n\nTravis Scott is a fucking bitch.\n\nEDIT: a word", "No need to say you’re sorry. Idk why you would be.", "Shooting the whole thing from one spot would not be visually interesting though. If you look at really any good video, there’s a ton of camera movement. Forcing it to be shot from one spot would produce a video that looks like security footage", "He's a massive turd and if something happens it will absolutely be his own fault. Yet he is also hurting others, but he gives 0 fucks about that", "This guy is a total mess. It’s embarrassing.", "What a weird way to spell 'douche'", "\"no disrepect\" = not disrespectful. \n\n\"no homo\" = Not gay. \n\nSee? It just lets off the hook!!!", "Explains why his fans were twerking & jumping on the top of an ambulance while people were literally dying.... Pretty sure another group was trying to tip over an ambulance.\n\n There's no way Scott didn't see that shit. They were 10ft above everyone else, and could be seen clearly due to the emergency lights.... At the absolute fucking least he could've told them to knock that shit off. So fucked up.", "Who is Travis Scott?", "Jacques Bermon Webster II (born April 30, 1991), known professionally as Travis Scott (formerly stylized as Travi$ Scott), is an American rapper, singer, songwriter, and record producer. His stage name is the namesake of a favorite uncle combined with the first name of one of his inspirations, Kid Cudi (whose real name is Scott Mescudi).In 2012, Scott signed his first major-label contract with Epic Records.\n\nMore details here: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travis_Scott> \n\n\n\nThis comment was left automatically (by a bot). If I don't get this right, don't get mad at me, I'm still learning!\n\n[^(opt out)](https://www.reddit.com/r/wikipedia_answer_bot/comments/ozztfy/post_for_opting_out/) ^(\|) [^(delete)](https://www.reddit.com/r/wikipedia_answer_bot/comments/q79g2t/delete_feature_added/) ^(\|) [^(report/suggest)](https://www.reddit.com/r/wikipedia_answer_bot) ^(\|) [^(GitHub)](https://github.com/TheBugYouCantFix/wiki-reddit-bot)", "It just gets soooo old. I've been on here since 2010ish, and how the hate for America has been ingrained on the site, to young impressionable minds is jawdropping/terrifying. People literally die trying to come live here. We also adopt more children than any other country. Where are you from?", "It goes further than that, I'm afraid. Stop the show without proper authorisation and you're looking at \"blackballed from the industry\" consequences more than just getting chewed out by your boss. \n\nSure, with hindsight you can say it was the right call (and I agree they could have done more to help, like radio the TD when people climbed the platforms for help) but that's a hell of a risk to take if you're not 100% sure.", "GREEN DAY has done this at two shows I have been at personally. If you are a regular concert goer, you know and respect the POWER the performers have over the crowd. \n\nI have seen the lead singer raise half a stadium of people with the flick of his pinky finger. If you are a performer and don’t respect this power by controlling your shows, you are an ignorant asshole and should not be on that stage. Heavy is the head that wears the crown, this joker played his fans for fools, now they see the emperor has no clothes. \n\nNo prayers will bring back the dead. They died in hell.", "The world would be a lot better off had he been one of the eight.", "No most Travis fans actually disagree with him on this video life isn’t black and white we can acknowledge when an artist we like does shitty things", "Yet his pants needs assistance", "No, no. He's an AARTEEST! nO diSsReSpEcC\n\n—Travis, actually.", "“Artist”", "Who the fuck is Travis Scott?", "From the US originally, born and raised. I suspect the anti US sentiment from Americans mostly stems from the disillusionment of the rising generations. \n\nWe watched our idiot parents and their generation prosper in life then vote for politicians whose end goals were antithetical to that very prosperity.\n\nI pay $1200 a month for insurance, and am going to end up with an additional 30k of out of pocket expenses due to some medical issues with my newborn and also various dental issues with me.\n\nWe spend 750 billion annually on war and lining the pockets of military contractors while people are starving, drinking poison water, or just straight up dying because they don't seek medical care knowing it will bankrupt them.\n\nI could easily write 50 pages why people living here are disgusted by this country, its government, and the idiot people who voted for it.\n\nI also understand it's worse elsewhere, but I don't care to compare one shit to another, we can all do better.", "What is his problem? Does he not want good media of himself? Good pics and vids? It's just so stupid to me. It's like an NBA player purposely throwing the ball at the camera person.", "If you think being a minority absolves you of responsibility, then you're going to encourage people to be racist. Most people don't respect those who fail to own their actions.", "I also think that it's worth noting that his business manager who was behind this whole fiasco happens to be Lou M. Taylor, who was also responsible for putting Brittany Spears in a conservatorship. https://mobile.twitter.com/monalisaney81/status/1457024102041014273", "> Enjoy being triggered by critical race theory numbskull.\n\nYou're just as badly informed as Republicans if you think _that's_ critical race theory.", "Dude is a little bitch", "“Get your fucking nerdy ass off the stage”\n\n“No disrespect, I’m an artist”\n\nHoly shit lol, what a fucking self absorbed douche probably like every other fucking celebrity. Why do we glorify these people whhyyyyyyyy 😭", "Man I can’t believe how lacking in empathy some people can be. Like the fact that he does this and then just goes on with his life without an inkling of regret or care just blows my mind. A part of me envies it honestly.", "Ay fuck you man, Kid Cudi goes hard", "Why'd you get downvoted 😂", "I'd tell someone that cut their hair off and gave it to me it wasn't worth it too because that's fucking WEIRD. Artist or not no matter what you do or who you are that is extremely weird and unnecessary.", "Wtf. Shoving somebody isn't sexual assault at all. You can above someone and then apologize for it, that doesn't make it sexual assault. You just assume it was sexual in nature, but there's nothing there saying it was sexual at all... maybe the bathroom was packed and he was trying to take a piss and he shoved someone in the way?", "Lmao, who gives a shit about downvotes or karma", "https://youtu.be/69Sm5K03v8Y\n\nHeres the photographers response to what happened", "So what your saying is...he did nothing wrong. I dated my wife while I was her boss at work, guess I should be cancelled right? Why do you treat women like children?", "hint: they won't", "Dayum. That is like two months worth of food stamps.", "There’s a [video of him literally saying “who asked me to stop? Y’all know what you came here to do” ](https://twitter.com/CleaSena/status/1456885287548825603?s=20)as someone is begging a cameraman to stop the show because people are dying", "Nope really any celeb or famous person who doesn’t use their platform for good", "Yeah, dating someone is different than whipping your dick out before even going to dinner. For most people at least. But if you can’t see the difference then you might also deserve to be “cancelled”\n\nAlso why do you and various other whiteknights always assume this has something to do with the fact that they were women. This can and does happen to men too. Ask Brendan Fraser.", "They did though, because he had direct control over whether or not they would be allowed on tour with him.\n\nHe had as much power as Weinstein ever did.", "See the cool thing about facts is that they are correct whether you think they are or not. He did sexually assault these women. You don’t have to agree for it to be true.\n\nAnd yes, I do think he believes this. It is actually possible for people to learn lessons, and I think Louis is a very introspective person. He could have just as easily said nothing and came right back, hell Dave Chappelle has been “cancelled” about 20 times at this point. But he owned up and apologized because he saw the truth. Good for him.", "\"I'm an artist!\" Hahaha what a talentless piece of shit.", "Sure: if you want to curse, then curse away! \n\n(Personally I don't--at least trying to do it less! Just a personal preference for my own communicative patterns.)", "“Kicking the cameraman off of my stages cause I don’t like how he snapping my angles”", "Honestly I disagree. People have idolized people, or rather the unfathomable skills they've managed to learn, way before people started idolizing people for being popular. In my mind, one is a natural reaction to seeing someone shock you with their talent again and again, and the other is just idolizing someone just because everyone else is doing it, which is essentially just social group psychology where one have to idolize or else he/she stands out in the crown they're in.", "Massively disrespects dude. \"No disrespect, bro.\"", "No. The worst part is he needs to pull up his damn pants.", "Hard to do shows from prison", "Jesus fucking christ.\n\nI was never a HUGE fan but I've been bumping his music for years. I'm really glad I never saw him live. This is fucked up.\n\nI saw fucking Chief Keef and he had 0 issues telling the crowd *BACK THE FUCK UP OR THE SHOW IS OVER. This is a dude known for having people killed, lost multiple brothers cousins and friends to gang violence, has been in shootouts, and he knows how to handle a crowd / a show better than Travis. This was in 2016 too. \n\n No one started a riot, everyone began backing up, and the show was great.\n\nI hope this dude gets what he has coming to him. \n\n#New challenge: find video of Travis Scott where he ISN'T acting like a complete piece of shit", "I can’t believe people call him an “artist”. He auto tunes like an idiot.", "If the woman had an issue with it she should have said so, because she is an adult and not a child. Cancel culture is a cancer in society and pretty much everyone outside of the far left whack jobs think so. Louie should have told them to fuck off like Dave Chappelle and continued his career, why does anyone care what fat miserable SJWs think?", "You: “Everything is racist!”\n\nEverything: is not racist\n\nYou: “well, everything is a racist dog whistle* then!! I know deep down everything must be racist, I just gotta keep looking harder!", "She did say so. Thats why we know about it? You are a gross person.", "For some reason I have been seeing a bunch of those videos on r/nextfuckinglevel", "15 years later, have you ever been laid? Does this white knight stuff actually work?", "I never heard of Travis Scott before this whole affair. The only thing I know about him is that he is a piece of shit. I'm okay with that given what I continue to learn about him.", "I married with a child thanks. Some of us are capable of wooing women because they actually like us for who we are as people. We don’t have to force ourselves on them. I know thats tough for someone like you to understand though.\n\nLouis knows what he did was wrong and has said so. Again this isn’t white knighting. This happens to men as well, you just want this to be okay because you are guilty of it. Thats fine. I hope you aren’t in a position where you will ever be capable of it again.\n\nAnd the main person behind the allegations said it right away. It was a known thing he did many times over to multiple women over the years.\n\nFor the sake of your wife and kids, learn to be a better person.", "[https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/09/arts/television/louis-ck-sexual-misconduct.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/09/arts/television/louis-ck-sexual-misconduct.html) \n\n> \nIn 2015, a few months before the now-defunct website Defamer circulated rumors of Louis C.K.’s alleged sexual misconduct, Ms. Corry also received an email from Louis C.K., which was obtained by The Times, saying he owed her a “very very very late apology.” When he phoned her, he said he was sorry for shoving her in a bathroom. Ms. Corry replied that he had never done that, but had instead asked to masturbate in front of her. Responding in a shaky voice, he acknowledged it and said, “I used to misread people back then,” she recalled.\n\nM-M-M....MAYBE IN 2005 THE BATHROOM WAS PACKED AND HE HAD TO PEE REALLY BAD AND JUST PUSHED HER IN THE BATHROOM WITH HIM ACCIDENTALLY AND THEN (literally) TEN YEARS LATER HE FELT COMPELLED TO APOLOGIZE FOR ACCIDENTALLY BRUSHING PAST SOMEONE IN A COMPLETELY NON-SEXUAL PLATONIC MANNER VIA PHONE CALL BUT ACCIDENTALLY CALLED A DIFFERENT LADY THAT HE ASKED TO WATCH HIM JERK OFF. JUST A SIMPLE MISTAKE, WHOOPS!\n\nDo you honestly not see how ridiculous that sounds? If it was just some random accident of bumping into someone when he was in a hurry, why would he remember that and feel compelled to apologize for it A DECADE LATER? Also, how many times have you ever been in such a rush to get somewhere that you physically shoved someone into another room?\n\nLike, if there was just some random guy in your neighborhood that drove around and asked women if he could jerk off for them would you be defending them so ardently? No, they'd be a fucking weirdo and you'd want them locked up. But here you are. \n\nAnd this is EXACTLY the kind of apologist attitude that allows Chris Brown to still have a thriving career and why I will not be even remotely surprised next year when Travis Scott releases an album detailing the harrowing, emotionally traumatizing experience of seeing his fans crushed at Astroworld and it will win a fucking Grammy.", "I don't think you understand how it works.", "Oh wow apparently I am guilty of it now? I think you need some help dude. Maybe some counseling", "lol the only impressive thing about that kid is the credit card bill he sends his parents.\n\nHe looks like he makes a crying tiktok whenever his butler makes eye contact.", "Are you one of those guys that watches in the corner?", "He's 37??", "Well, if you cant tell the difference between a date and whipping your dick out you most likely are yes.", "Yes, but your mom pays extra for that.", "I hope they bankrupt his ass", "Okay.", "You need to calm the fuck down. You sound ridiculous. Other than him shoving someone into a bathroom and then apologizing about it, there's no fucking details here. To the best of my knowing shoving somebody isn't a fucking sex crime. No matter how much you want to turn everything sexual, you aren't providing me any information other than your speculations.", "So you pay for sex? Not shocked at that.", "Do you strap on a pig nose and let her whip you? Can't see you actually using your dick. Bet your kids are all step children", "Reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit but thats ok, I find it ties to morals pretty directly, so I wasn’t expecting much.", "Well, he did say \"Kickin' the cameraman off of my stages\n'Cause I don't like how he snappin' my angles\" in Antidote", "If you think reading comprehension ties to individual morals then you must either be 12, have a brain disorder or on drugs....Mr bear...isn't that a pedophile thing?", "Idk, it’s not like I was wrong 🤷🏼‍♂️", "Ok boomer", "No. No its not.", "And he called Kylie a monster….", "🧐", "Not hardly asshat.\n\nNo one wants to see his ass...and makes him look like a total dumbshit.", "My buddy said there was a death at a Travis Scott concert in Texas. Thought he was talking about some white guy singing country western, wow I had that wrong. Travis Scott never heard of him.", "Move, bitch, get out tha way (lol jk thats a Ludacris song) but seriously, move if you want to. Only thing keeping you here is your citizenship and you're love of disdain apparently.", "You're also right, we can do better. Were a super young country that BLEW the fuck up way too fast", "There is something wrong with Travis Scott.", "ME", "Stop posting garbage. Dude needs no light. Fack!", "FREETHENUT", "Fuck this clown", "So we’re finally learning Travis Scott’s a douchebag", "He also says « no homo » before touching swords with his homies.", "Fuckin idiot Travis. Deserves every lawsuit coming his way", "This", "^ that's one of my points\n\n I see I ruffled a couple feathers", "He'll continue on for sure, but there's no way in hell he will ever escape what happened at this event.", "It’d be a cause for celebration…", "There’s videos all over the place of him telling the crowd to fuck with the people trying to stop the show.", "Shut the fuck up.", ">telling the crowd to fuck with the people trying to stop the show. \n\nThat's a new one. I've seen him tell the crowd to put middle fingers up, which he seems to say at every concert and I don't really know if that's him being him or him attempting to hinder those people.\n\nWhere has he explicitly instructed the crowd to do what you said?", "This guy is a sociopath. No doubt.", "I am concerned about effective communication. You might think people are agreeing with you but you will have very little idea what they are agreeing about. \n\nYou have to define who 'they' are. If the OP is honest with himself, he would know it's not apparent in what he wrote. No more than you would understand vague statements like:\n\n\n> \"It would be better if they didn't do that.\" \n\nWhat do I mean? Who knows! But maybe someone will up vote it.", "Telling them to make an aggressive gesture at the people trying to help is going to encourage more aggression to them.", "Does he use a fake ID?\n\nHe looks like Justin Bieber took estrogen.", "can vouch for atmosphere", "Soooo good", "Dude, I think you're talking about Kid Laroi, not Kid Cudi. Laroi is ass, but Cudi goes hard.", ">asshat\n\nJive insult brother man", "Oh my God. Never read that fully. That’s fucking sick. I’ve never been able to listen to his music when it comes on at all.", "After losing her 24 year old daughter, on the day of her funeral, my aunt said this with a straight face. I was like ummmm okaaaayyyy wtf no, it was not “her time to go”.", ">Telling them to make an aggressive gesture at the people trying to help is going to encourage more aggression to them. \n\nThat's not exactly\n\n>There’s videos all over the place of him telling the crowd to fuck with the people trying to stop the show. \n\nHell the people you described I've only seen was the ambulance, and they weren't stopping the show from what I can tell. I'm open to seeing more info\n\nI honestly can't tell if that's just what he does at shows, and, imma just reserve my judgment cuz I really don't know shit about the dude. For all I can tell that could just be his equivalent of raising metal horns. Or maybe hes saying fuck the interruptions.\n\nI don't really know and it costs zero dollars to reserve judgement until more information comes out. Or we can catch the boston bomber again because clearly everyone on reddit is an expert and thinking level headed.\n\nThe guy is probably a dick, but I've seen screenshots of his face and people writing essays on exactly what he's think in those seconds.", "Yes this is America but not even profit trumps how you treat people least in the entertainment industry. Entertainment industry runs on reputation.", "Keyword: was… Fortnite removed his character/“skin” from the game. Prob not appropriate to have people running around in Travis Scott’s “skin” on Fortnite killing people…now that he’s a murderer in real life. Good on Fortnite.", "Get your fucking nerd ass off the stage, no disrespect.", "I think you're a good guy, but I don't think you fully understand the situation. The main point is the violence and abuse he promotes. You're the only one bringing up race. Yes there are definitely racist Redditors who will take advantage of this situation, however it is far from the majority.\n\nBy supporting Travis Scott in this situation, it dosent make you look like someone fighting against discrimination, it looks like you support violence and abuse (I know that's not true) because that is the main point that your in advertly defending by bringing up an entirely different issue (racism). \n\nLong story short, it looks like your grasping at straws because you can't defend his actions, so you use his skin colour.\n\nI won't be replying any further cause I'm kinda over the convo, but I wanted to clarify how it looks for you from another perspective.", ">Does he not want good media of himself?\n\nTravis is a huge piece of shit but it's honestly very common for bigger name artists to not allow anybody on stage, even if they're in-house media for the event. I've worked video crew for most major US fests and artists see us as shooting for the event, not for them, which is basically true. At the end of the day they're getting paid, the audience showed up, so having nice pictures doesn't really matter to them. Artists who care about getting good photos and videos usually bring their own person who we shoot alongside with, or sometimes their person is the only person allowed on stage. The festival can try to push for it, but if the artist & their tour manager are firm about no media on stage, that's the end of the line. You'd think because the fest is paying them, they'd be able to force it, but it's not the case. I've even shot older legacy acts at festivals that didn't allow in-house media people to shoot from the photo/press pit right below the stage. Popular artists get so much press that photos of them performing at \\_\\_\\_\\_ Fest is low priority for them.", "I wonder if there are out there people who know him well and are like “oh, look at these surprised pickachus”", "I never heard of this guy until a couple of days ago.", "Same.", "You say you don't like drama by talking about other things. Filling your life with fun, curiosity, skills, interests, facts, naked hot yoga with screaming etc\n\nYou say it best.. when you say nothing about drama at all :)", "If only reddit dot com had a search function that would work, instead of adding stupid-ass cryptocurrency integration...", "Hopsin was alright like 10 years ago when he had a fresh style and funny lyrics. Then he became a preaching rapper telling me how bad drugs are and I should be closer to god and his music just didn't sound... entertaining? Ill mind 4 is still funny as hell to me", "You're right, let me rephrase:\n\n\nHis decent fans who disagree with his abhorrent behavior will drop his unapologetic ass and stop supporting his music. You know, stop being fans.\n\n\nCruel power worshipping dumbasses will keep on following and propping up his ego. So, a bully base.", "His previous behaviour leads them to that conclusion. Your defending it with an almost entirely different topic. Think about it.", "Yeah, I can't find any stories backing that up. Of course, now if you Google anything 'Travis Scott' the only results are about the AstroWorld show. So maybe it did happen.\n\nAlso, keep in mind Rihanna was beaten by Chris Brown, and Chris Brown still has a career. Maybe not as much of one as he would have, but not all fans of Jenner are also fans of Scott, and vice versa.", "Security should let people rush him", "These examples are probably growing his fan base more than hurting it.", "this comment took me ouuutttt", "Hundreds of people are not about to receive millions. This will definitely be a big financial hit for Travis and he's going to have to pay millions, but not hundreds of millions.\n\nThe biggest kick to his balls is going to be the fact that this was his own venue, so he's double screwed. He's about to take a massive financial hit from having to refund a lot of tickets, pay damages, pay fines for the shitshow that the planning must have been, for the rest of his tour which he cancelled and how he just joined Dababy and Chris Brown on the rap shitshow list.", "Also tbf, having been a bully doesn't mean that you shouldn't be allowed to grow and succeed later in life. \n\nMy own school bully dealt with a broken home and abuse as a kid, followed by drug abuse and more, before turning his life around, finishing school and living a nice family life. I'm not going to be his friend, but I don't wish him success.", "Big shout out to drugs for winning the war", "omg what a fucking psycho.", "He didn't murder anyone at his concert and I never said that, but he has shown to be very, very egotistical and his videos prove his lack of empathy toward his fans numerous times. It's not that far fetched to believe he'd be willing to ignore violence and mayhem so long as he can continue his show. Yes he paused a couple of times. But he should of stopped the show before 8 fucking people died. You even said it yourself, he is reckless. I don't know what your trying to prove by defending this dirtbag tbh. It would be like trying to defend Chris Brown against public anger after beating Rhiana, but saying there only doing it cause his black. \n\nI'm honestly starting to think I was wrong about you and that your not a good person. People are trying to do a good thing by stopping violence at concerts, but you want them stop that because it's racist? Does being black automatically make you immune to being a dickbag? You actually sound like your racial profiling.\n\nJust think about the kind of person you are. I know your probably going through high school and learning what is socially just and what not, maybe your just in an edgy phase. But this is not a racial issue, it is an issue about violence and crowd control. Get that through your head already.", "Ok mate, continue supporting violence and bootlicking celebrities. Your a real good person for defending this piss poor excuse of a person. Next time someone steals my shoe, I'll start a \"fuck them up\" chant and pick on kids.", "Just remember, this is the guy your defending \n\nhttps://youtu.be/9ZwoR4QWFMs", "God damb your dense, people aren't mad because he commited literal murder. There mad because he endorsed the violence In his ads and previous shows. Add on the fact he didn't end the show before 8 fucking people died.", "Watch the whole video, he sticks his finger up at it and gets the crowd to as well. Your a whole brick wall.", "That's the point, he should of stopped the show to find out what was going on when he noticed people going unconcious and ambulances driving through the arena. You missed the point where he also encouraged violence at this show too, even toward the ambulance of all things.", "I don't think I've ever met an internet stranger more daft tbh. This is unreal, alright there is literally no talking sense to you so I'm not going to reply any more.", "It was his responsibilty as well, stop acting like it's not.", "Travis Scott told them to do this, even had it in his fucking ads. Security on the other side of the gate literally couldn't stop anyone even with horses. But yes you're right, live nations is entirely responsible!\n\nhttps://youtu.be/9W_njKnR6Q0", "And here's another video\n\nhttps://youtu.be/t5O4cvtl8s4", "And here's another with a witness account of Travis Scott hearing about whats going on down there.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/7Wf_AU_KXsU", "I’ve never paid much attention to Travis Scott until now and I’m disgusted that he’s been able to maintain a fanbase after physically and verbally assaulting fans and employees at his shows. He’s a bully and needs to be canceled, same with Kylie if she continues to stay with him as that would be a reflection on her", "Entertainment pros have been out of work for since March 2020. They aren't refusing anything right now.", "I mean I went to a Metallica concert on Saturday and it was dope. It was full and people were still friendly and polite to one another. There was enough room for mosh pits and gasp... no dead people. And talk about rage, half the concert was flames and people throwing their fists in the air. \n\nThe only WTF moment was when the opening band, Cage the Elephant was one... someone needs to check and see if Mike Schultz is ok, he didn't look well.", "Travis scott is such a fucking tool bag", "This is beyond the pale. What venue is going to accept bookings of his now? Show business is ruthless and I would be surprised if he makes a comeback after this. His apology video about it seemed pretty insincere too.", "Oh wait so he can actually stop a concert.", "The \"11 people in cardiac arrest\" line was so \"nobody dies at disneyland\"", "Sure if thats how you want to put it. I'm not going to stop enjoying someones music just so other people will think I am virtuous. But I also won't act like many of his actions haven't been seriously fucked up. That's why idolizing artists is dangerous, I think im in agreement with you", "r/fucktravisscott2", "This guy is a complete tool...", "The company hired by Travis Scott...", "Any person who claims they are something, means usually they aren’t.", "I was thinking that too. He was probably so damn humiliated. Now he knows he’s just a reckless sociopath", "I was thinking the same thing! Lmao he’s the asshole jock who peaked in highschool who grew up to be a pathetic adult asshole", "Wanker...", "r/fucktravisscott", "r/fucktravisscott", "Is Tom Cruise really the de facto leader or just a useful figurehead?", "Wow what a dick.", "He definitely does think this. Tons of others who got caught up in metoo did nothing close to 'rushing to agree with the vocal minority of social media'. There were outright denials, there were attempts at distraction (read: Kevin Spacey), there were justifications. He is one of the few who promptly released a complete admission and apology, plainly spoke of his transgressions without glossing over details, explained why what he did was wrong, and the flaws in his perspective that allowed him to cleanse his conscience. Not only was it clear that he was being genuine, it was clear that he had reflected on his past and come to these conclusions independently and over time -- not cause a couple months of metoo forced him to think about it and go 'oh shit I think I did bad'.", "Obviously it's not that black and white, but there are cases where there's a definite abuse of power, and there are cases where there isn't. Getting your junior alone and asking her if she wants to see your cock falls into the first category.", "What do 'fat miserable SJWs' have to do with anything? When you're in an industry known for holding women's careers to sexual ultimatums¹, and one of the most successful and well-respected guys in your sub-field corners you and asks you to look at his dick, it's obviously not as simple as that.That shouldn't be too difficult for you to understand. That you could say no, but it'd be a no with strings attached. Physical harm may not have been an implied consequence, but a ruined career sure was. Again, let me remind you, an innumerable number of women¹ have suffered this fate in Hollywood. Additionally, Louis didn't tell anyone to fuck off, because unlike you, he likely understands what he did wrong.\n\n¹This of course has happened, and does happen to men in Hollywood too -- just not nearly as often.", "Correction: He called himself, “a artist”\n\n(Deleted)", "Tbh kind of racist", "Really? Did not intend. Deleted to have some introspection", "Lmao 2ez", "I STAND BY WHAT i Said. HE DIDNT YELL - he's not ASAP?? That's a micro aggression. And WATCH THE VID before you reply.", "Travis scott hate train continues i see. This has nothing to do with what happened at astroworld.", "This isn’t summer dram.", "Millionaires acting like divas. I wish ppl spit on his shoes at every show", "Oh, I was saying Travis Scott was an American thing. I wouldn’t dare indicate that crowd crushes happen around the world otherwise it would become a competition with people chanting “USA USA” all while refusing an Ambulance because Uber is cheaper. \n\nMy motive is…. To inspire Reddit users to challenge the thought that just because it happens regularly in your country doesn’t mean it is or should be normal.", "Your profile is almost 3 months old. “People literally die to get here” not really a gauge of something worthwhile, ask the front row of a Travis Scott event.", "Been here 11 years tho. This profile is that old.", "I'm no advocate of cancel culture, but it would do everyone a world of good if this guy gets cancelled, dropped by record labels and sponsors, and on top of that gets dumped by Kylie, and then ends up in the streets, and gets fucked up by a coupla hobos. But sadly that's not the world we live in. People don't face any retribution penalties for the most heinous crimes. They can't crowned as martyrs instead and labelled as wrongfully persecuted. The lawsuits are only going result in him getting a slap in the wrist, in the form of 2 million dollar fines, which is pennies to him, since he's got access, and he's gonna be disappear from the spotlight for a good while, then return after the incident has been completely vanished from public discourse, with some some bullshit redemption thing which would be totally unearned and alot of people are going to eat it up.", "Pirate all of Travis Scott's shit if you like it, some of it has good production TBH but he is a cancer individual as is evident lately.", "My aunts does this job and she has told us the story's of what a prick he is, one of her pictures of him putting his hand on her camera lense to move her out of here, what an entitled man child" ]	2,116	videos	Travis Scott stops a performance to kick an official concert videographer off stage, calls him a nerd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I1GhXjIG6o&ab_channel=BunnyFett	/r/videos/comments/qp4qgk/this_band_has_killed_1000s_of_fans/	[ "Blacker than the blackest black times infinityyyyyyy", "What is this, Crash and the Boys? Last Song Kills the Audience!", "This post is ams dildos", "Tens of thousands, easily.", "But they go there to die. That way they can brag to their friends about it.", "I listen to Dethklok unironically and unapologetically.", "Don't worry. They all signed death waivers.", "I love the show/albums so much.\n\nSo Metal.", "You don't knows snakes from dildos abouts it.", "Hey, don't use that word! Call it something better... like hamburger time.", "That's so metal.", "The concert is a bit different when you already know there's a chance you might go forth and die", "I fly a gigantic monster. I am captain evil stomper. I get to wear big black helmet. I pilot the Hatred Copter.", "BRUTAL", "Do you folks like C O F F E E", "Still better than Travis Scott", "they signed their pain waivers upon entry, releasing Dethklok from any or all liability; and signing their life away", "\\m/", "I wish their band would tour again :(", "100% agreed. \"Bloodrocuted\" and \"Awaken\" are God tier.", "It's a God damned grocery store!", "GOP?", "brutal", "Dethalbum II is one of my favourite albums. I'm not apologising.", "Detharmonic has always fucked hard. You can't convince me otherwise.", "Or just disfigured and permanently disabled them, relegating them to a dedicated hospital ward for their fans.", "Honestly this is extremely insensitive of me but the moment I heard about the Travis Scott shenanigans, I immediately started thinking about all those fans who decided that mass suicide was the best way to honor murderface's birthday.", "Hey! They all signed the death waivers before entry to the venue", "I fly the beast made of steal. TZhen I could cut the night.", "2 years ago I was in the top .5% of listeners of them according to spotify. They fucking rock.", "How are you not going to post Awaken?", "My favorite clip from them. https://youtu.be/HJkLnUonKE8", "You will scream for our cream...", "There’s a movie coming. So I would expect a couple shows.", "Bloodlines is amazing too, though I wish they’d used more of the music from that episode than just towards the end of the song.", "man.. thats not even the most brutal shit from them either, think this is the first episode. most episodes end with some extremely brutal concert scene where many many people do no live", "As you fucking should", "I'll keep my eye out :D", "anyone have any CoCaaianAInn?", "what can you most not the least?", "Pfft, who doesn't?", "Go into the water is the theme music to my dreams", "[Y-y-y-yeah!!!!!!](https://c.tenor.com/goEnkx18GBEAAAPo/dr-rockso-rock-and-rol-l-clown.mp4)", "Yes but do they have a deal with Nike and McDonald's?", "Goddamnit, I was just about to bring up that song. It's impossible for me not to get goosebumps when that motherfucking dual-guitar kicks in.", "The 2nd album in general is underrated imo.", "murmaider is a bop", "SCREAMMMMM FOR YOUR CREAMMMMM", "Do you folks like cooooooffffeeeeeee?", "2 cups of rice...\n\nbrutal", "One time at a show my fingers got chopped off. Murderface rolled them up and smoked them! MURDERFACE!!!", "And they are actual musicians on top of that (except maybe Murderface), not just mumbling autotuned shit into a mic like some people.", "My favorite songs are probably Crush the Industry or Go Forth and Die.", "I wish there was a whole Planet Piss discography, unironically.", "Impeach God, black fire upon us, and all of the doomstar requiem are all incredible", "For me it's The Duel from Doomstar Requiem and Symmetry from Dethalbum 2.", "Even dethklok has a [pain waiver](https://dethklok.fandom.com/wiki/Pain_Waivers)", "brutal", "First time I heard this song was actually from a flash movie collab (think it was SpriteTV 2), where Mega Man sings this song following the Moon from Majora Mask crashing down, killing them.", "Thunderhorse would like a word", "A friend of mine posted an Archspire track to our slack recently. It was the most Dethklok-like thing I've heard in a while.", "This…. All attendees go with the expectation of death….", "Hey! Tittyfish was a very artistic Murderface/Planet Piss song.", "I love Mermaider 2.", "Then you have found your people it seems. Excited they’re bringing it back. Hopefully a new album comes out too.", "I didn't notice til just now, but even if they had landed on target, the walls falling down would have killed tons of people anyway.", "BE DEAD NOW", "What happen to the fans", "Awaken firmly holds its place in my workout playlist.", "You ams dildos teeohdee!", "Take notes, Travis Scott", "They call it hamburger time. It's hamburger time.", "Real coffee, from the hills of Colombia?", "\"Crush my Battle Opponents Balls\"", "Still waiting on the release of a final chapter.", "😂😂😂", "all the coffees in the world and no instructions hows to cooks it", "This brings me back to 2008, a few coworkers and I loved this shit and would play the album in our store. Being 20 years old was so simple in 2008.. sigh", "Hamburger time.", "Are we discovering metalocalypse", "Anyone going to one of their shows knows what they're getting into.", "There's a movie coming.", "That one band with Crash and those boys?", "When he said “Screeeamm…for your creeeaamm” I felt that", "when I heard about the new movie coming, we rewatched the entire series. still waiting.", "Is their girl drummer a boy, too?", "We's cannot play these grandpa's guitars!", "Still no candle to the lives GWAR have taken.", "Travis Scott belongs in a garbage can.", "-Deathklok has summoned a troll.\n\n\n-That's impossible, there's no such thing as Trolls\n\n\n-Then how do you explain the dead unicorns?", "That show always made my head hurt.\n\nThat shaking screen effect they would have very often.", "Foods libraries", "Weird flex but ok.", "wait, now, what did they say? about the human body and proportions of things.", "Archspire is so good. Perfect mix of technical talent and sense of humour.", "Many years ago today something grew inside of your mother...\nThat thing was you! \n \nYou!", "This is before the intro to the episode, the rest of the episode is about them trying to figure out how to cook for themselves after mostly killing their chef.", "Duncan!.......", "Gilfs", "REAL COFFEE FROM THE HILLS OF COLOMBIA", "If you haven't heard [Galaktikon](https://youtu.be/6_FhwS43IYE) Brendon's other project you're missing out. There's a second album as well that is a bit more the Dethklok vibe.", "I was never able to see the show during its origianl airings only found censored versrions of the show. Im usually not a fan of shows being altered even the swearing. They way the did it in this show with guitar riffs was pretty [funny and enjoyable.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5v9daghmPfs)", "What's awesome about Metalocalypse is Brendon Small has a legitimate music background. If you like metal, Dethalbums I-III and the Doomstar Requiem soundtrack are fantastic.", "I might be mistaken but I thought they hadn't killed anyone. Not directly anyway.", "Ngl, i would buy any coffe with that as its theme!", "Yeah but Dethklok is actively trying to kill their fans.", "You people out there give us something more than just record sales, you give us something to hate, and we hate you, you brainless mutants!", "The irony is that they've actually toured together in real life and people didn't get hurt", "\"Holy shit Brian how did you lose your arm?\"\n\n\"I lost it at a deathloc concert\"\n\n\"Oh that's sick bro\"", "Always a good job, and never a bad", "For me it doesn't get better than lazer cannon death sentence.", "Skwisgaar, did you write these?", "HEY GRANDMA IS THERE OLIVES IN IT?!", "I Tamper with the Evidence at the Murder Site of Odin has amazing instrumental work. Major blood pumper.\n\nDethalbum II is my favorite of the four albums.", "It's my favorite one. The others have some great songs, but I love everything off of Dethalbum II.", "I mean you gotta give them more than 1 day...", "Last time I saw them was at the House of Blues when they toured with Mastodon. That was an awesome show! High on Fire was their opening act.", "Here's mine: https://youtu.be/dFNVo7BsmSo", "Yeah but the concert-goers knew that death/dying was part of the deal.", "I want to keep my money. \n\nAnd give away absolutely nothing", "LEMON TART, WRINKLE-TITS", "I feel like [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sxZ4tsp8gc) video is more relevant to the current moment.", "I listen to Dethklok unironically", "BRUTAL", "Exactly. The manager has it taken care of. \n\nNobody f🎸🎶ks with his bread and butter.", "I saw them live which is a very weird thing to say about an animated band but it is true. They played HeavyMTL back in 2009 I think and they had the drummer in sync with the animation via a set of headphones and they actually played the set live to a fully animated projection of the cartoon and it was amazing.", "Were they the headliner? Last time I was at that venue was some pirate metal band and Mastodon opening for (the original) Dragonforce. Which was great to see them actually able to play live well after the internet kept saying they couldn't possibly play their solos for real. Their singer had this odd fixation on peeing on the crowd with water bottles which was the oddest part of all 3 bands' sets. \n\nI definitely loved DF enough at that age to check out expanded media such as random news coverage. And they were hilariously over the top toxic off stage. Constantly drunk in public and harassing everyone in a ten meter range, exactly what you'd expect from any real metal group.", "Not their fault. \n\nPobody's Nerfect!", "[Is it metal to have drains clogged with dead, rotting employees?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzejqYRtmdY)", "And then the concerts pale in comparison to what they did to Florida.", "sigh....you're closer to hamburger time if you don't see a doctor.", "Imagine the disappointment", "This comments is total sausagefestifals.", "No I dont. dont tell me what I gotta do.", "I've been waiting since the Doomstar Requim though, and like, I'm pretty sure the 2016-Now is about 80 years.", "Yeah, Mastodon was the headliner after Dethklok. It was a killer show. Mastodon played the Crack the Skye album from start to finish with a movie to go with it in the background. Then they did an encore with songs from their previous albums. There was definitely no pee stuff involved… not even sure what to make of that.\n\nDethklok played a mix of songs from their first 2 albums. They had the music videos playing with the song and there was an occasional skit mixed in between songs to make a story. All in all was pretty awesome.\n\nAlso, sorry I’ve never really been that big of a Dragonforce fan. They’ve always felt a little try hard to me. I respect the music just isn’t for me which is definitely weird because I do like some power metal.", "The entire Dethalbum is just so good.\n\nBETTER METAL SNAKE", "Put the boots to him, medium-style.", "STOPS COPIES ME!", "That is one of my all time favorite moments in the show. So much so that any guild/company/party/whatever I form in almost any game is named Hamburger Time.", "And not just that they were there.", "Hahaha, \"thousands\" thats ams dildos numbers.", "Get the fuck out of here!", "Real coffee.", "why?", "I listen to Deathday on my birthday every year without fail.", "In London, some dude chopped off my fingers and threw 'em up onstage. Murderface rolled 'em up and smoked 'em! MURDERFACE!!!!", "Meh, GWAR used to throw their fans into a meat grinder.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/g-WGaYu2Ybg\n\nRIP Oderus.", "_IT'S CALLED A GROCERY STORE, YA DOUCHEBAG_ \n \n^(...sorry about the \"douchebag\") \n^^^^low ^^^^blood ^^^^sugar", "Pinch harmonics specifically, haha. I loved that too.", "They're legitimately a VERY talented group of musicians. Brendon Small is funny as hell too.", "Thousands? Dude, I think you are at least a couple of digits too low.", "Fooooods liiibbraaariies", "Murmaider is a stable of my gym workout." ]	156	videos	This Band has killed 1000s of fans
https://youtu.be/L1fo_kZCxGA	/r/videos/comments/qp4st8/travis_scott_crocodile_tears/	[ "fuck that pos \n\nhe knew what he was encouraging", "Says the man that has attacked fans in the past. Sorry, Jacques but you gotta get your ish together.", "Actions speak louder than words and his actions say he don’t give a fuck about his fans. He had one beaten at a concert after literally walking on top of him. Stfu with the virtue signaling, Jacques Berman Webster", "This might be the first person I've actually wanted to cancel." ]	4	videos	Travis Scott crocodile tears
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldOprmqSt7o	/r/videos/comments/qp4ua3/how_crowds_can_kill_you/	[ "\"Just stay out of crowds\"..... That's the best way to end that video. Been a long time since I was in a concert crowd. Glad I have wised up.", "Lol fuck off we get it already", "The music really doesn't match the vibe of this video..." ]	3	videos	How Crowds Can Kill You
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-NaocUsv1Q	/r/videos/comments/qp5787/my_friend_orchestrates_a_one_minute_film_fest/	[ "This is the 5th year he's done it. He provides two-word prompts and you have to do something with that. That, and it has to be one minute. Those things are the only criteria, and he's even flexible on that. It's really cool. I can provide info on the festival if anyone is interested in submitting something the next time he does it.", "Sounds awesome. How does one watch/submit to the festival?", "We just did the screening for this year last night, so I know there will be another next year. If you're on Instagram it's (at)1minfilmfest and he'll announce when the next one is happening. There's a site too but not a lot of activity on there but if you wanna bookmark it, [1minfilmfest.com](https://1minfilmfest.com) \n\n\nEDIT: oh I'm dumb. you can watch the videos on his youtube channel for it. The video I posted is on that channel.", "This video gives me a weird sense of déjà vu. I feel like it's actually a video sent to us by aliens or whoever's running the simulation to let us know they're thinking about us. I think I may've had a dream of something similar as well.", "The nicest thing anyone could have ever said.", "Do ponies ever accidentally eat the poop that's in the grass and wonder why it tastes like shit?" ]	6	videos	My friend orchestrates a One Minute Film Fest every year. This was my submission.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65Nzii7tRc0	/r/videos/comments/qp5e10/colourised_news_report_of_the_siege_of_warsaw_1939/	[ "Why the fuck would they strafe innocent civilians picking potatoes? Evil.", "Yeah...they're literally Nazi's.", "Stopping their food production is one of the best ways to break their defense.", "Hard to believe this happened in real life let alone less than 100 years ago.", "Well some of those potatoes would end up with the enemy soldier...", "Or a mother trying to feed her kid that she was killed right next to." ]	7	videos	Colourised news report of the siege of Warsaw (1939)
https://youtu.be/mZmiefQ5y4U	/r/videos/comments/qp5z5m/janis_joplin_and_tom_jones_absolutely_crushing_it/	[ "I think I see Max Rebo on the keyboard", "Inspiring duo. He’s good but Janis is simply on another level, it’s incredible to watch.", "One of these two was drunk and high, the other is still alive", "Tom Jones used to have a portion of his concert where he would start giving kisses to the girls in the audience, and it's one of the most disgusting things I've ever seen.", "Tom did not expect to have that much fun. An epic performance. He brought out the best in Stephen Stills too.", "Nah, huge Janis fan here myself, and in Tom she found an equal. That's why she's so full of joy.", "Didn't he join the newest version of Journey at that Nar Shaddaa concert?", "Then you missed the part where they all threw their underwear at him. Ladies would bring binoculars to his shows too. You know, to read the fine print on the drumkit.", "Those background dancers are in danger of giving themselves Shaken Baby Syndrome.", "Wow, just did a bit of reading on her and found [this gem](https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/style/features/joplin.htm):\n\n>She never really fit in at Austin, either, except with her fellow \n hippies – which was a word nobody had heard yet. Austin in the early \n'60s was a bohemia only by degree. The frat boys who ran the place \norchestrated a campaign to get her named \"Ugliest Man on Campus.\" They \nsucceeded.\n\nLovely people", "Tom Jones had some incredible guests on his show. This is my favourite https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3U9uPIPzG8o", "🤣🤣🤣", "Yep. It devastated her, as I read in her sister Laura Joplin's book Love, Janis. No wonder she became a blues singer.", "I thought it was Jackie Jormp-Jomp", "When they have to cut at 2:10 cause Janis backs that ass up for Tom.", "Something something something better than Travis Scott", "Oh, they were into it. Still gross. He for sure was passing cold sores around or something.", "stop slut shaming" ]	18	videos	Janis Joplin and Tom Jones absolutely crushing it in 1969
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qp60k7/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qp60k7/deleted_by_user/	[ "I’m noticing a lot of videos about fights and riots in concerts lately. I don’t regard these as edifying or entertaining, but perhaps this is someone’s passive-aggressive say to say something about a certain someone who did something wrong.", "At this point.... \"Hey Google, search YouTube for _stops the concert_\"", "I’ll say whatever you want me to say, but please virtue-signal a little harder so that I’ll know what that is." ]	3	videos	[deleted by user]
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qp644g/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qp644g/deleted_by_user/	[ "Rest In Peace Chester", "You see, this type of crowd wouldn't have been dancing on a golf cart carrying a dying guy & EMTs trying to revive him. At punk/metal shows, if someone falls, they're picked up. If someone's in danger, they'll be helped over the barriers.\nWhat happened in Houston was absolutely repulsive.", "Oh, look! It’s a video of a rock concert where the crowd behaved badly. I bet I don’t see another video like that for a while…" ]	3	videos	[deleted by user]
https://youtu.be/yK-UGgvQGWo	/r/videos/comments/qp6kzk/rage_against_the_machine_stops_a_rowdy_crowd_at/	[ "I was actually at this show and it was getting super fucked especially as this was a festival show and after a long while of them not playing for while and they were a headline and only one other band was playing on the other side of the park (NIN). But he effortlessly shut shit down and swore if we did it again he wouldn’t play. What’s even worse in the video you can hear a dude saying to push forward and I as someone who was like 2nd to front row center was immense. I couldn’t imagine and I’ve been to countless metal shows and festivals. I left literally soaked in sweat and you already know it wasn’t all mine lol.", "Oh, look! It’s a video of a rock concert where the crowd behaved badly. I bet I don’t see another video like that for a while…", "Most of your submissions are to r/jokes and r/divorce. I don’t think you’re in a position to judge anyone.", "Zach is a bit eccentric but he's a good guy and I fully believe he'd completely shut down the show if he thought people's safety was at risk", "I was At this show as well. I remember echos of outta control fans asking people to push forward, when there was clearly no more room. I was a young buck still in HS. I was purposely in the back as the show started, w my friend, as we knew what we were in for. Less than a minute into the show w knew based on eye-contact alone we both wanted out of the crowd w the intensifying levels of energy and moshing. Because Rage was closing the crowd had filled and we’d gone from the back, to the middle of the crowd. A very large buff dude saw the fear of god in our baby eyes, and graciously helped us out of the crowd. I realized p quickly we were among the few of people sans penises. Our crowd angel sheparded us out, made sure we were ok, and smiled as he ran back into the crowd. Tho it was intense almost everyone in the crowd was super responsive and accommodating to the dude helping us exit. I agree w you that Zach was on point w responding to the crowd and making sure everyone was safe. He def wasn’t playing when he said they’d end the show, and even let security shout out a warning. [RATM saying they’ll end early](https://youtu.be/G47kLtC1GjA)", "Hahah I was also young and not a big person.. graduated in 08,09’.. show was fire tho. If he didn’t stop and call out the crowd who knows what coulda went down.\n\nE; but yea he defs was not fucking around.\n\nHahaha I was trying to find my self in here but my god.. https://youtu.be/DWbzvGZfuOI.. I know exactly the hoodie I was wearing.. and this is exactly the reason for the chant before the encore. It’s been a minute. Think PJ played the next night right? Which is funny cause I just saw Pearl Jam like 3 weeks ago on the beach. He hosts a festival over here cause he from around here. Did you ever catch the daft punk show at the same stage like a year prior? Shit was dope.\n\n\nHahahha I was a bit to the right.. left on his side but when he points and shit I know he was pointing at our little thing (we were rowdy) and giggling." ]	7	videos	Rage Against The Machine Stops A Rowdy Crowd at Lollapalooza 2008
https://youtu.be/fL1i6qJWO38?t=2160	/r/videos/comments/qp6p8e/jayz_and_kayne_west_encouraging_their_audience_to/	[ "Oh, look! It’s a video of a rock concert where the crowd behaved badly. I bet I don’t see another video like that for a while…", "Stop with the fucking flood of stupid shitposts about every other time a crowd misbehaved. Jesus the karmawhoring is obnoxious and pathetic.", "Moshpits are not what caused the deaths at the Astro event.", "That's not a mosh pit. Musicians and musical sets with mosh pits don't stop the performance and purposefully tell people to create a circle and run into it at full speed. That's malicious intent. Not a single concert I've ever attended has ever had a \"mosh pit\" look like this Jay-Z circle shit.", "Lol wait till you guys learn about \"wall of death\".\nStop comparing what happened to this BS.", "I have been to many concerts that had mosh pits open exactly like this, lead by the performer exactly like this. Usually they’ve also been at stadium shows, again exactly like this, where there's a set amount of GA tickets for people on the floor. Theres always plenty of space away from the stage, which makes it less dangerous and allows for circles like this to form up in the first place.", "Curious you pick this video and not the hundreds of videos of metal/punk/rock bands doing an identical 'wall of death'...\n\nDespite the name they're pretty safe. There's no sustained pressure on people as they generally don't involve more than a few rows of people. You might get a black eye but oh well, it's worth it.", "You never heard of the \"Wall Of Death\" at Metal concerts? Unlike the name suggests, it's not what causes people to die. It was the huge mass of people that caused suffocation and trampling.", "It's not malicious. This is common in metal concerts and in other genres of aggressive music. The fans love it." ]	9	videos	Jay-Z and Kayne West encouraging their audience to participate in dangerous behavior that could have resulted in serious injury or death.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR_x_vrSZBM	/r/videos/comments/qp75gy/7_year_old_kid_nails_the_drums_in_tom_sawyer_rush/	[ "Amazing!", "looks like i saw this boy somewhere in social media , so talented .", "My mind is blown! How is he doing that without being Asian?" ]	3	videos	7 year old kid nails the drums in Tom Sawyer - Rush
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qp7amj/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qp7amj/deleted_by_user/	[ "very relaxing", "Do you have any recommendations?", "You know better.", "huh? I'm trying to find other ways to help me sleep...Do you have issues sleeping?", "Hhhhh no" ]	5	videos	[deleted by user]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rcBi1iHYUc	/r/videos/comments/qp7iug/girl_in_trouble_brother_caught_everything_on_cam/	[ "Ahhh, a classic!! In the butt!!!!", "Im so happy you shared this with me. My life is completely in the butt now.", "In Da Butt! Back when videos were fun.", "Made up or true, this is absolute gold. I hope she married Jimmy and the brother played this at their wedding.", "It is true but I think I've read somewhere on reddit that the brother filming died some years later, if I recall correctly. I think someone posted the question \"where are they now?\" and it came out that he passed away. Might be wrong though, don't take my words for granted." ]	5	videos	Girl In Trouble (Brother Caught Everything on Cam)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvC8vFU9zhw	/r/videos/comments/qp7lky/the_bee_gees_blowing_in_the_wind_in_colour_1963/	[ "I often forget that what we most often think of when we hear their name was actually in the back side of their career.", "What? They were a kid group?", "I never knew", "Wait. Did they take their name from Barry's initials as well and I'm just now noticing this too?!", "Brothers Gibb", "When I hear BeeGees I picture 70s disco hippies wearing open suede/silk vests letting their chest hairs run amok. \n\nThis is new to me.", "Same here. Always thought of them in their disco era form.\n\nHighly recommend the bee gees doc - [The Bee Gees: How Can You Mend A Broken Heart](https://www.hbo.com/documentaries/the-bee-gees-how-can-you-mend-a-broken-heart)\n\nThe brothers already endured a lifecycle (or two) of a band before they even stumbled upon their disco revitalization. They were in fact in a downward trajectory at the time which would have been a perfectly respectable fade into obscurity for any band. That is, until they stumbled on that famous falsetto and this new sound called disco. They found success so massive it totally eclipsed their already quite successful past life. \n\nSome tastes of pre-disco era>\n\n[They always had that, forged through blood, iconic three part harmony from the start.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGQj0kdjPJc)\n\n[To Love Somebody](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWJWWHCFPbE)\n\n[Psych pop number, you can hear how they rode the British invasion](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BIUvlNIfw4)\n\nPoor Barry Gibb, may the rest of his years be kind to him.", "Ohh. Makes more sense. Thank ye.", "One of the few groups to have #1 UK hits over three decades (just missed decade 4 in the 90's. Their single Alone reached #5 in 1997)", "This show was called Bandstand hosted by Brian Henderson. It was the biggest music show in Australia in the 1960s and the Bee Gees appeared often\n\nI actually love their early tracks like Massachusetts, Spicks and Specks and New York Mining Disaster much better than their disco stuff, even if it's less iconic", "Did Robin make a mistake at 1:35?\n\nNever seen these guys be anything other than perfect", "i don't know why i teared up at this... perhaps because Barry is the only one left now?", "I don't understand how you make it as a young singing trio from the Isle of Man to America in the early 60s. It's really incredible.", "I always assumed that hairdo was only possible in the Fallout universe.", "Do you mean the chromatic passing note on guitar or am I missing something?", "THey harmonized in a way only siblings can", "Wow they were all so young here.\n\nFor perspective this was them a little more than a decade later... 1977 (so 14 years later) with one of their top 3 hits ever.\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNFzfwLM72c", "i cant even make fun of north korean films anymore", "Ya but did they stop the show and say something nice while calming the crowd?????", "Sure were, even when they had there first international hit in 1967 (NY Mining Disaster 1941) Barry was only 20, the twins 17 and they had technically been a band for almost 9 years at that point already" ]	20	videos	The Bee Gees - Blowing In The Wind (In Colour) 1963
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI_14XUg_W8	/r/videos/comments/qp909e/travis_scott_pauses_show_after_his_shoe_is_stolen/	[ "Did the kid actually take it? I've been in the pits and shoes fall when people surf.", "I've also been in pits where kids specifically un-lace and take shoes off people. And that's when they're not trying to grope girls.\n\nNo idea in this case. Could be an innocent bystander.", "No clue, he just happened to be the one holding it when Travis saw him and then incited the crowd to fuck him up. Here's an [alternate angle](https://twitter.com/i/status/1457163293890650120)", "Cancel HIM!!!!!! Cancel his babies!!!!!! Cancel his missing shoe!!!!!!!! Get him cancel mob!!!!!\n\nAny of you numb nuts realize this is sarcasm?", "I guess I've never held on to someone that long to think imma jack this person's shoe.\n\nEverything gets in eBay or some collection.", "Compare this to when professional fighters get their hats taken right off their heads as they enter the arena and they don’t even bat an eye.", "Get a fucking grip, you maniac.", "I mean I think we should cancel people that incite violence. This isn't like he made fun of gay people or something. His neglect led to the deaths of many people.", "Just curious, when has anyone really disappeared when “canceled” unless criminal changes are involved? The whole phrase is a meme.", "yooooo these Jordan are lit! I need them\n\nWtf is wrong with people", "Considering it looks like he threw something at the kid, that kid needs to sue him for assault.", "What’s Louis CK up to?", "Releasing new stand-up specials and touring internationally. Though to noticeably less fanfare than he used to.", "It's almost like these feel good videos were meant to create a culture on reddit where a crowd of 100k+ is moderated by the artists, then Travis Scott sucks.Edit: Oh, I see because he is a dirt bag and crowd work from music is a thing right now", "I thought Travis Scott was a country singer.", "I actually thought he was white", "Travis Scott is a cunt. His billionaire bimbo is also a cunt.", "I really feel like all it does is shake up their fan base or whatever. Cause you’re gonna have the people on the SJW side who abandon the person, and you’re gonna have people on the Muh Freedums side who swoop in to support someone they didn’t care about. \n\nMost of the time i don’t give a fuck unless it’s really bad but it’s just annoying to hear people complain about cancelling. \n\nIronically the people I know who complain about cancel culture have tried to cancel things without calling it that.", "I'm not going to deny that the dude is a piece of shit but how does having a stage name like a lot of celebrities effect anything?", "I've never even heard this mans name until the tragedy he incited and failed to mitigate. \n\nAll the other videos regarding bands looking out for their fans have been a good watch.\n\nThe upside is that plenty of young people are being exposed to good music made by good people.", "I feel like Stephen Paddock was at the wrong place at the wrong time.", "Is this the beginning of cancelling TS? It would be great.", "Even if the kid did it, this is no way to respond. It's just dangerous.", "8 dead, hundreds injured in a crowd surge at Travis Scott's concert Astroworld. Travis had the [crowd](https://youtu.be/Ud2U-GUSXDA?t=88) yelling at him to stop [because people were dead](https://twitter.com/i/status/1457019779433250822) and screaming for help and [instead he told his fans to flip off the Ambulance](https://youtu.be/uaqXtRis5as?t=1801) (police lights) started the next song and had his two homies stage dive into the ongoing crush of people. 11 Minutes later the first dead body is fished out from the exact area where the 2 men dove into and [he calls attention to it](https://youtu.be/uaqXtRis5as?t=2541) but immediately goes into the next set while people are still screaming for help, even jumping [onstage to stop the show.](https://twitter.com/i/status/1457155664451620865) Incredulously after all that he asked to[turn on the lights and paused to give a shoutout](https://twitter.com/i/status/1456998158152736773) to a guy hanging out in a tree while people were screaming for medics. There were reports that EMS had 3 patients needing CPR/medical with no pulse at about 00:31 in the video which should have demanded a law enforcement shut down immediately but instead they kept on performing for [37 more minutes](https://bossip.com/2049031/astroworld-aftermath-officials-allege-that-travis-scott-performed-for-37-minutes-after-show-declared-a-mass-casualty/) and ramped it up to 10 and even jumped on top of the helpless crushed people.", "You nailed it.", "We're in witch hunt mode, baby! Practically every rapper, and probably half of all celebs, use a stage name - but because he's a piece of shit, gotta make it sound sinister that he doesn't rap under his real name \n\nMore enlightened people would criticise him for psychopathic behaviour that's specific to him. Like having a signature McDonald's meal that came with Sprite, *extra ice. That's something to really be concerned about", "Billionaire bimbo? Who?", "his music is atrocious anyways, things like this is only his way of getting attention", "We should keep an eye on this Travis Scott character. Something tells me he may not be a great role model to his fans.", "Kylie Jenner.", "It would be nice to get rid of all that autotune music. I hate autotune.", "To be honest I don't blame anyone for not keeping up with this guy's personal life. The fucker doesn't deserve attention beyond being called out for the shit he does.", "Opening my eyes and looking at a screen in the past 48 hours is how I know who he's dating. Before then I hadn't a single clue.", "I'm sorry you're exposing your eyes to such garbage intentionally?\n\nHe's a shitty person but why should anyone be expected to know his dating life? That's totally irrelevant to his criminally abhorrent behavior.", "Yup I agree", "Wait his stage name is Travis Scott, Jesus what an awful stage name he sounds like just someone average that I would have expected to meet in high school in Oklahoma. I honestly thought he was a country singer at first based on the name.", "Ahh ok", "...imagine getting on someone’s ass for their powers of observation.\n\nYou ok? Maybe you need a break from the interwebs.", "And the agenda continues. I’m starting to think these posts are bot driven. No way a real person would spend this much time posting videos about one person.\n\nAlso I don’t care about internet points have it.\n\nDon’t be little bitch and DM me. Post here for everyone to see. Some of you are true psychopaths. Turn off your computer and get some fresh air.", "He absolutely should have stopped earlier, but in his defense it's near impossible to hear anything specific on the stage, and all the lights are pointed at you so you can't really see much either. Still should have been paying more attention to the crowd", "Intentionally? How do you figure? I turn on the TV and there it is. I open Reddit and there it is. It's not intentional lol", "I know right?", "His girlfriend may have been partly responsible for the production financially", "They're not saying he is one, but that that Kylie Jenner is one", "He also Spit on him if you didn't catch that! 1:36", "What agenda you moron?", "I think extra ice is a diamonds ref", ">His real name is Clarence, and he lives with both parents, and Clarence' parents have a real nice marriage", "The anti crushing children to death agenda?", "Unfortunately Travis Scott has also become a household name. I'm not optimistic that even a tragedy like this is enough to ruin his career when you get that kind of attention bump.", "I wouldn’t mind but he isn’t even singing a tune. What does he need auto tune for.", "Damn, where's Steven Bay when you need him?", "Nearly, just the first part of the word.", "scummy fuck", "I didn’t think I could hate hiphop even more, yet here we are.", "Yeah. What a real jerk.", "Or the fact that sprite extra ice is how you mix lean.", "Leave Eminem out of this", "Why were people dying? Just drug use or what?\n\nDownvoted for asking a question, nice", "Crushed to death from people pushing to get closer", "In his defense… he values his shoe more than the lives of his fans….", "Geez that’s brutal", "Also, feel like the venue has a part to play here no? The venue should be monitoring the crowds, the venue should have appropriate security, the venue should have been in a position to halt the show in this instance.\n\nI ain't defending Travis Scott but damn, people seem to forget that a lot of nuance is lost in their little Reddit arguments.", "Encourages is putting it very lightly. He straight up ordered it.", "Best word for them", "[So the opposite of this?](https://youtu.be/ZOvHWDFr3aY?t=39)", "Looks like a very douchey event", "Which he incited", "Question as I know nothing about him… is he with a Kardashian because he’s famous or is he famous cause he’s with a Kardashian?", "I saw on some late night interview he said it was after his uncle’s name and kid cudi’s real name", "This Travis fella, the more I hear about him the less I care about the guy.", "That’s Randy Travis. He’s the good one of the two. Unless he’s had a couple beers in him.\n\nhttps://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/2017/12/05/watch-newly-released-video-shows-randy-travis-naked-dui-arrest-near-dallas/", "🤦‍♂️ bruh if you steel you get what you deserve", "I thought her whole billionaire thing turned out to be a lie", "Ah the opioid crisis lol", "but its ok. \n\nIs a black dude vs a white dude.", "Each negative internet point is a real person telling you what a dumbass you are. Maybe you're too dim to care, but at least you'll serve as an example for others.", "It’s not fully clear yet. Yes some were likely due to the crush but the police have also said that someone was injecting random people with opioids. They know it was opioids because narcan brought one of them back. When the dust settles I’m sure we’ll get a final tally.\n\nEdit: https://www.kxan.com/news/texas/houston-officials-security-officer-may-have-been-injected-with-drugs-at-astroworld-festival/", "Sounds exactly like something Trump would do at one of his rallies. Travis Scott is the Trump of concerts.", "How poor is Travis Scott that he makes such a fuss over a sneaker? Dude must be really strapped for cash.", "No lol he just uses a white stage name. His real name is Jacques Bermon Webster II.", "No... He was already famous before dating a jenner...", "He was ridiculously popular before Kylie Jenner. He got married in 2017 and was getting guest recordings by Kanye and Justin Bieber and such in 2015. He won best mixtape in 2013 and a grammy in 2014.\n\nI don't like Travis Scott's music at all, but he was definitely on top of the world before Kylie Jenner.", "No, he was definitely famous before.", "Lawsuit incoming 3 2 1...", "he probably didn't tie his shoelaces and it just fell away.", "Fuck Travis Scott", "Feels like even if she isn't one now, she will be soon. Stinking rich, regardless!", "Haven't a clue. Last time I heard anything about her it was that she was a billionaire.", "You watch a video of a death metal concert, mosh pit and all, and afterwards everyone is still alive. Maybe a bit bruised, but everyone's having a good time.", "not surprising that he has had \"inciting a riot\" charges filed several times against him.", "Who?", "That's called fake fight promotion.", "But he'll apologize on his Instagram feed and that makes it okay, right?", "I said it \"would be nice\". Not that I would want it forciby removed so that people who enjoy autotune would suffer. The less autotune the better. Or to be more specific the amount of autotune that people like drake or Travis Scott uses. Unnoticeable autotune is fine.", "What a POS", "Que a Chrissy Teigen sad face post about how unfair cancel culture is from him.", "Yeah but death metal fans actually take care of each other most of the time.", "I think the most confusing thing in all of this, and I'm still not caught up on it yet, is, uhm... So this guy has fans?", "What if I enjoy talking shit about stuff?", "You're literally the only person saying that.", "yet here we are precisely discussing his personal life, in a thread that isnt about his personal life, a thread that isnt even about the news of the moment but a secondary mildly related incident in order to illustrate how bad he is and continue the circlejerk\n\nwhy do i even comment, come on, i was getting better at cutting back on this shit", "Totally, and if you go to a Travis Scott concert and get crushed to death by a mob he encouraged, you got what you deserved too, right?", "It would be nice if you could let people state their opinion without thinking that he’s attacking anybody", "off course Im.\n\nIf it was white dude vs black dude it probably wouldn't be", "Dumb fuck, the fest was way over capacity, why are you bringing fan ethics into this", "that's because of the culture. oh wait i forgot we don't have culture according to some", "I never knew who this person was until Astroworld happened. Now everything I learn about him makes me understand why it happened as badly as it did and makes me dislike him more.", "This isn’t a race thing, bud. It’s not acceptable for an entertainer to incite violence against an audience member black white or purple", "Who gives a flying fuck?!", "https://www.reddit.com/r/travisscott/comments/qnxqiu/an_eyewitness_who_was_at_the_front_gives_a_very/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share\n\n\n\nRead this if you wanna know just how bad it was.", "Real knucklehead if ya ask me", "Jacques Webster the second sounds pretty white to me, tbh", "Yes. Thats my point. I hope the media cover's that in that way.", "Because the rules that death metal fans follow (like \"pick people up if they fall immediately\", or \"create a barrier around hazards\") seem quite relevant to a conversation about crowd safety? \n\nYou seem mad. You should try [listening to some death metal.](https://youtu.be/8DgX6uf9DKY)", "Oh yeah dude, death metal fans are so oppressed. eyeroll", "That has nothing to do with the stolen shoe. and Yeah, if you willingly attend such a concert what do you expect?????????", "That sounds whiter to me but I'm european maybe it isn't in the USA.", "horny pilots", "I love how all these people think Kylie Jenner would fuck a nobody and have a baby with them.\n\nThat whole family wouldn't dare degrade themselves with someone not famous.\n\nAnd I used to watch the TV show, so it's not like I'm just shit talking. (Kim and Kourtney remind me of my older crazy sisters lmao)", "Who said anything about oppression lmfao. Im talking about one group of people idolizing wearing stupid jewelry / money / wearing your pants around your ankles / drugs / guns. Meanwhile the other group idolizes the music", "Cool man your special community has a special code. Just confused why you’re acting like that’s the sole cause and not the 10,000+ people who got crammed in", "Didn't see an arena or anyone walking to fight. What I saw was some fake shit to promote that garbage ass fight .", "How do you know the shoe was stolen, and how do you know it was by the person Travis assaulted? You cannot prove that the person he attacked was guilty of anything, and neither could Travis. He made an assumption and assaulted someone who could have done nothing wrong. As far as going to a concert, I expect the venue to have proper safety precautions in place, and I expect that if 7 people have died, you don't continue the show while the 8th one is also dying, and on top of that I would expect you to instruct the crowd to part for the ambulance, not encourage violence against it. Oh hey let's not forget the time he hired that cameraman to film him, then bullied the cameraman doing his job while Travis still held the mic to his mouth so that the whole crowd could hear. And oh yeah let's not forget the fact that the venue was overcrowded because Travis Scott encouraged his fans to break in illegally and pack in more people than were supposed to be there. Oh did I forget to mention all of this while a global pandemic easily spread in crowds has killed more than 5 million people?", "He had a massively successful mcdonalds meal named after him. Made him way more recognizable. Rare to see people that haven't heard of him", "Who is this guy? All i know is white kids love this dumbass. Why?\nAlso, fuck the Kardashians", "I think the real pro move would've been like \"fuck it, I can't walk around on stage in one shoe\" taken off the other and threw it to a different crowd member. \n\nNah. I've seen enough of this guy to last a life time. I've seen more of us proving his bad character then I've ever been concerned to search him out for his music.", "Holy shit that’s insane", "Imagine being a 17-year-old kid, going to see one of your favorite ‘artists’ in concert, catching his shoe while said ‘artist’ crowd surfs, and then not just getting YELLED at by the guy you came to see but also threatened with bodily harm! God thinking about that poor kid makes me feel so bad. He must have been heartbroken.\n\nETA oh and also getting fucking SPIT on. What a total shit.", "Yes", "Being nieve but what is the culture? Im mostly into dance electronic music, but been to lots of concerts and have to agree, Metal concerts fans are some of the chillest people I have hung out with.", "I'm joking about the woke idiots that proclaim white people have no culture. But then the culture they are so proud of is shit like this", "🤡", "how to tell me you don't listen to much music without telling me you don't listen to much music\n\nYou're also a racist\n\n\"Racism is founded in fear so racists are just a bunch of people who are afraid\" - u/0OOO00000OO00O0O0OOO\n\nA dogwhistley example, but one of many!\n\nWe also got\n\n1. Why can i change my legal gender but not my legal age?\n2. If all lives have equal value then women and children first used in crisis situations is wrong\n3. People with almost fully booked calendars might be important but they are hurting the organizations by becoming bottle necks for decision-making (??????)", "I believe this video shows what you're talking about.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/a8cWwkr19B0", "He is not representative of hip hip or rap.\n\nThere is a lot of good music out there, just give it a shot.", "Ages like fine wine", "I read on some pretty legitimate website, don’t remember which now, that the billionaire figure was indeed a lie. The article broke down how there was no way her makeup brand made her as much as her vile stage-mom had reported. \n\nEither way, they’re all way richer than they deserve to be, that’s for sure.", "I don’t know. I don’t really keep up with the Kardashians.", "Travis Scott is part of the venue", "fuck this guy.", "The added sound effects really make the video. Those guys just don't break a sweat and I love it.", "How dare they", "Wow that looks like so much fun", "I’m starting to think this Travis Scott fellow might not be such a good guy!", "https://imgur.com/buYkVLI", "What the fuck are we doing as a society? This is our future? Jesus fucking Christ. Chanting fuck him up because some piece of shit rapper got his shoe stolen. What the fuck?!", "Yep.. can't say I care for him. No sir, can't say I care for him at all..", "Do you see a Kardashian dating an unknown? Question answered", "Maybe that’s just us getting older. This does not look like a good time to me.\n\nEdit: The earlier in life you realize that hanging out with douche bags isn’t fun the better. For some people it never happens, you see them hanging on to their youth well into their 40s when life has passed them by.", "Just like Stanley Yelnats.", "What you did there, I see it.", "Spits on the kid as he's being ejected. Jesus christ, what a fucking cunt. I hadn't a clue about this guy before the Astroworld incident, and now I just keep seeing clips of him being a complete fucking degenerate on the front page. It really makes me sad that so many people celebrate this kind of scummy shit.", "I think everyone agrees that crybaby culture exists.", "So how am I racist again? Please look up the definition of racism because you have no clue. \n\nAlso you listed some of my posts but no comments on what would be wrong with them. \n\nYou: I'm going to dig up some dirt on this guy\n\nfinds no dirt\n\nYou: I just post some random stuff and call him a racist", "Good, stop listening to trash.", "17 yo here, definitely does not look like a good time", "Holy crap some of those in the second half are downright violent, you can see them hammering their head incoming and tugging at their scalp exiting.", "Is this one of the guys Kendall Jenner fell in love with?", "It's weird cuz Jacques Webster is about the whitest name you could think of.", "She might as well be a billionaire, at some point you acquire enough money that you're set for life no matter how bad you fuck it up. Meanwhile I can't pay my mortgage this month despite working my ass off and taking care of a loved one. Fuck allll of these people and the chaos they create to line their pockets.", "Wisdom to recognize douche bag convention at a young age is an important life skill. Apparently many of your peers have not matured to that point. \n\nGood luck friend.", ">mcdonalds meal named after him\n\nWow what an accomplishment", "That’s because nobody’s actually trying to hurt each other at metal shows, and it’s normal etiquette to help people up if they fall.", "There are so many accounts of him acting like this and putting his audience in danger. I know this is going to sound harsh but anyone that attends his concert should have been prepared for the consequences. If people still attend his concert after this latest incident, then they have a deathwish.", "Too bad he wasn't dropped on his head.", "Same. I’m 35 and don’t think I had never heard of him before this.\n\nWith a name like Travis Scott and the incident happening in Houston, TX, I just kind of assumed he was a country singer.", "They make enough money from those fights to buy a truckload of hats", "Can we all just collectively call this guy Trash Scott from now on?", "Lol I should have scrolled down further. I literally thought the exact same thing after I heard his name and that the concert was in Houston", "One dude grabs his hat right back lol", "You just keep on featherin' it.", "travis looks at those people like they're his subjects, not his customers, he thinks they are there to worship him. his shoe being 'taken' was an ego breaker and he lost his fragile temper", "travis belongs in a prison yard", "How about we just blame the artist for straight up not having spatial awareness and getting people killed?", "Guy needs to learn how tie his shoes", "We pick each other back up. Its literally drilled into us by the bands", "Just a super cool guy.", "How fucking embarrassing to recognize someone you know in this audience.", "Mommy", "Oh that makes it okay for someone to steal someone elses shoe TIL.", "It looked like someone behind him was ready with a replacement hat. Dude was not playing about his hat.", "Can we cancel this mofo", "Is that one guy's name actually Minotauro or is it just a nickname?", "Metal is for everyone, regardless of color or gender or orientation. Except fascists. Nazi metalheads fuck off.", "As a cunt?", "Because fighters know what they are paid to do. I'm sure the only reason he freaked out about the shoe is because they are his. Like the Nikes he wears are made for him. 4k -10k. So when you are on that level, why not throw the shoes in the crowd. Like athletes do. Show more love than is expected. Instead a kid got hurt and instead of a few grand I promise the parents are gonna sue. I mean I would. You don't insight violence when on a fucking stage. Looked up to by thousands. Travis Scott is a huge fucking loser. Lmao", "the LAW needs to be fucking changed to prohibit this stuff. how on earth is “someone of influence inciting violence” not an immediate call out by the police to arrest the dude?", "What a giant pussy he is.", "this should in reality be the beginning of a law banning this practice. the concert straight up stops and if the performers incites violence they get stuck in a cell for a month and a dent hits their account.", "I didn't even know he existed until the deaths news came out", "I’m going to see this in South Park for sure.", "He was already famous. He’s a hugely popular hip hop artist.", "Hat guy was ready!", "He'll still be richer than God even if he has to disappear for a while. I'm not expecting any justice or comeuppance.", "Eat the rich.", "Anyone stupid enought to worship this idiot had it coming.", "I mean if it comes down to it....", "Douch", "Generally, the \"mosh pit\" culture in metal, hardcore, etc. is to look out for the other folks there. If someone falls, you all give them room and help them up. The goal is not for anyone to get hurt and for everyone to have a good time together.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nThere are certainly some acts/fanbases that do not promote this mentality, but typically a mosh pit is much more friendly than it looks.", "Lmao the dude just said he doesn’t like auto tune and you had to go searching through his post history. Rabid.", "Minotauro Nogueira was definitely my favourite. ZERO reaction at all", "He's lovin it!", "His fans also suck", "Honestly, had the exact same assumption the first time I heard the reporting on the tragedy (until they clarified what the event was). Travis Scott is a real good ol boy sounding name.", "I hope he faces charges. It's Texas so I'm really hoping they stick. In California just be another day.", "\"stole\" it. More like caught it when it flew off.", "Totally agree 👍", "Mma fighters are known to make very little money. After paying their trainers and training camp expenses. Only the elite fighters, the most marketable ones make money I.e Conor McGregor.", "We oughta leave this world behind.", "I thought I was remembering Travis Barker's name wrong when I heard about Travis Scott the other day. Glad I was wrong.", "Bro what a pussy, imagine yelling and spitting on a kid who is notably smaller and younger than you are. Wish the kid would’ve turned around and did something to Travis", "hahaha Machita said \"give that shit back\"", "If machita want his hat back, that shit will come back.", "It could be that people got too grabby and not \"surfy\" enough, so like, he started to get taken in by the crowd, whereas most sufring attempts are just regular people so they dont get body snatched lol \n\n&#x200B;\n\n&#x200B;\n\njust my 2 cents", "Bet you've heard at least 3 of his songs though, he was pretty inescapable in america", "I've seen a clip of metalheads lifting up a dude in a wheelchair so he can see.", "At this point it’s just a tradition of mma", "Should I be worried or relieved to learn that bright future is ahead of us?", "\"35\" he's marketed for teenagers its no wonder you're unaware.", "Step 1: Act like an asshole\n\nStep 2: Tell your fans to act like you\n\nStep 3: Act like an asshole to your fans when they start acting like you", "Why do so many fighters wear hats into the arena?", "It's almost like he's always been a massive piece of shit.", "That's real /r/leopardsAteMyFace/ material.", "Key word: professional", "Can we stop posting this? \n\nThere's literally a dedicated \"Fuck Travis Scott\" subreddit for this.", "I think he needs some serious therapy. Don't know what he's going through but he needs to look after himself. Homophobic rants and overreacting to things like this means he's got some serious anger management treatment to do.", "Maybe if they did their jobs...", "His fanbase look like upstanding members of society", "Posted in the relevant sub or fuck off, I don't care anymore", "Yea these videos are getting rediculous. If you raise a fool to stardom they are going to act like a rich fool. Who gives a shit, stop following him on social media and stop buying the shit he tells you to.", "Weak man weak and greedy these supposed stars are", "Maybe you should crowd surf", "And his mcds meal was stupid", "Nickname. His real name is Antônio Rodrigo Nogueira.", "Im still going to like travis scott idc about the propaganda bitch", "[It's a nickname.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ant%C3%B4nio_Rodrigo_Nogueira)", "Ugh can someone explain to my old person friend who Travis Scott is, I mean I know cause I'm cool and young but my friend is just so out of touch with modern pop culture....", "It was in the eyes.", "Quit trying so hard dude, listening to metal doesn't make you special.", "What a piece of shit. Also that crowd chanting fuck him up are all pieces of shit too.", "Bro wtf are you on about im just talking about a shoe😂😂😂😂", "Hmm...maybe like 99% of all rappers are total pieces of shit", "10,000 douchebags acted like douchebags, more at 11.", "I definitely would not say that. There are plenty of rappers who are pillars of the community, strong role models, and all around cool people.", "There is also a point where being \"worth\" a lot can make you money. People will be willing to pay you more or sign better deals or be willing to loan you money for other investments simply because you are already \"worth\" more than that. \n\nPeople become famous for various reasons but staying succesful once you are famous is all about negotiating with your perceived value as leverage.", "Despite what Tucker Carlson and OANN told you, there are still laws in CA.", "Lmfao I don't I listen to classic rock / psych rock I can't stand scremo death metal it sounds like ass. I'm just comparing the two. How many people have been shot in gang related activities at a rap concert vs a metal concert.", "He had a huge fortnite concert and fortnite skin April 2020 and then it all ramped up from there, the McDonald's meal came after when all the fortnite kids were going crazy for him", "Everything happening right now has distracted people to the fact he ruined the Super Bowl halftime event.", "Whilst whilst whilst", "Bye Bye Butthole. Your life is over.", "You're defending someone who's irresponsible actions lead to the death of 8 people, so wtf are you on about.", "What’d he think would happen stealing his shoe in a crowd of fans", "Most celebrities use stage names. What a stupid comment.", "Yep. That's exactly what's happening. Good observation skills ya got there.", "Y’all, I’m starting to think this Travis Scott person may not be someone we want in charge of crowds.", "Poor Travis. Such a victim.", "I got punched directly in the face at a metal show for absolutely no reason, don’t really know what you’re talking about", "I cant name anything written by this guy, but from everything i've heard in the last 24 hours he sounds like a right prick", "How is he responsable 😀", "Seems like an easy lawsuit. Grats kid.", "Isn't that technically assault? I know it is in NY but I don't know about other states", "Good God. That is beyond awful.", "Grow up. Travis Scott is trash because he has no empathy, so maybe show some. It’s not “good” or deserved or some great lesson this kid needed to learn for liking Travis’ music… he was just a kid assaulted by multiple people in a packed crowd with no way to escape.", "Any pit I have been in before or observed, if someone went down, there were at least 1-3 people who would move in to get them out", "Can you explain why?", "Because the crowd needs to be dense enough to do it right.\n\nHe was partly embarrassed, which is why he lashed out at dude with shoe.", "Duff McKagen from GNR was mugged when he crowd surfed. They took his wallet and handfuls of hair. It was brutal.", "He spit on him multiple times. I'd be seeing red.", "Did you not read anything I wrote? He told his fans to bypass the security measures put in place by the venue and intentionally directed his fans to overcrowd the venue during a deadly pandemic, then got them to start pushing and shoving, which led to a massive crowd surge which killed several children. It's the exact same logic which puts the blame on trump for the January 6th riot. If you incite a crowd to do something reckless and people die, those deaths are on you.", "That’s certainly not a normal thing. I’ve been to countless metal shows. More popular bands that are more of a household name sometimes attract tough guy assholes in my experience, but even then it’s usually like one shirtless sweaty guy going too hard.", "Probably aren’t even their hats anyway. Some gym or sponsor or whoever probably just stuck it on their head 30 seconds before they walked out", "In his defense they’re really expensive shoes", "It was a really small venue for some underground guys, went with a friend cause I like moshing and he’s into metal but it was far too violent for me", "Hope that kid sues his dumbass also. Spitting on someone is gross anyway, but doing it now, during a pandemic, is especially wrong.", "I hope that wasn't your favourite hat.", "Well I’m sorry that happened to you, assholes can show up anywhere. That’s not a normal thing at all to happen though.", "Your last link says that Live Nation agreed to cut the show short, but Scott still played. \n\nCouldn't they have just shut off the mics and lights, or had someone with another mic come out on stage? How could he keep performing if the people putting on the show agreed to cut it short? \n\nJust trying to understand...", "I never knew who he was until a couple of days ago. Fuck that guy, and not in a way he'll enjoy.", "Tried to grab my shoe through the fence", "Him sitting on that big guy’s shoulders while giving orders is fucking clowning this guy would be funny if he wasn’t so dangerous", "Wikipedia says his 3 biggest hits are \"Antidote\", \"Sicko Mode\", and \"Franchise\". I just listened to all 3 on YT and nope, didn't know any of them. To be fair, I'm not his target audience.", "Untrue, I’m in America and know 0 of his songs.", "His real name is \"Jacques Bermon Webster II\", no shit. Sounds like a Canadian country singer. \n\nThen he chooses the stage name \"Travis Scott\". It's odd to see a rapper going for the whitest name possible.", "No he didn't because you can see his shoe fly off when he jumps; before anyone touches him.", "That's it buddy. Yer done.", "I dunno mate the ones who make the big bucks are the ones at the top", "Wow, he literally spit at a 16 year old kid. Should sue him.", "Yeah. Become a refined weeb instead and listen to kpop", "no it isn't", "Look at how many people there are standing. I don't see a lot of wiggle room to plot a shoe theft plan there mate.", "I went to an Ensiferum concert (Viking Folk Metal). There was a part where the band was chanting and the guitar was screaming, and the entire mosh pit sat down in rows and pretended to be rowing Viking longships.", "He definitely gained more mainstream attention due to being with Kylie Jenner. Previously, he was popular with a few moderate hits, but he was mostly known among rap fans.", "It may surprise you but the thousands of kids going to a travis concert are going because they also idolize and love the music", "🎸🎸", "But boo-fucking-hoo if some random troll/burner account on twitter insults a star.", "I wouldn't mind that happening AT ALL.", "Ya, these failed abortion need to be shat on everywhere", ">he probably didn't tie his shoelaces\n\nHe may simply not know how", "hopefully he wont grow up to be as pompous and self aggrandizing as you. Nothing wrong with people going to shows to enjoy themselves. the issue here is the organizer and travis not stopping when he saw a problem.\n\nyou sound like no fun", "Pretty Petty", "so he paused the show so the crowd could beat up a kid\n\nBut keeps singing when there are people dying and being crushed in the crowd at another concert\n\nGot it", "They're probably sponsors, also why they probably don't really care", "And we're wondering why so many people got hurt at this POS's show?!??!?!", "Ohhhh that's how he got famous.. his lyrics are shit", "You see a shoe flying by itself at the very beginning of the video.", "i mean the point stands that he's a massive name and people saying \"never even heard of this guy\" are only self reporting how out of touch they are with popular culture. not that popular culture is inherently good, but damn people are really living up to the reddit stereotype of shut in nerd who don't go to parties", "douche", "He never incuraged his fans to by pass security during this event. And the pandemic thing astroworldfest.com/safety/ \"proof of a negative covid-19 test results or proof that you are fully vaccinated\" 😂😂. And the hole venue thing is not up to him but was organized by live nation and Mr. Scott so??????? travis is just a preformer he sings thats it his team should have come up on stage to infrom hum of the seriousness of the sistuation.", "To be fair, metal concerts don’t typically attract crowds of the same size. A crowd the size and density of Astroworld’s is incredibly dangerous no matter who the people in it are or who the performer is. People would have been at equal risk of death if it had been Metallica or any other artist performing. The crowd can’t be praised or blamed here. It’s Travis Scott’s fault for not stopping the concert sooner, and his actions aren’t a reflection of anyone else’s in the music industry. I suspect that most performers across genres would not act the way that he did.", "I’m pretty sure you could make an argument it was actually illegal (inciting violence).", "i like how he's sitting on the security guard's shoulder like pikachu", "Ur name is spaceborat mabye you should go back to your corner 😀👍", "Going to see a POS trash man and getting treated like shit is exactly what that sub is for.", "Ah yes I forgot. Made up forms of currency are more important than actual flesh and blood human being.", "What a piece of shit.", "I mean what was the kid wearing? He might have been asking for it", "I thought r/LeapardsAteMyFace was for people who face consequences for things they specifically wanted to happen?\n\nI assume the kid just liked his music and wanted to go see a concert like we've all done a million times. I don't see how he should've known the guy was gonna incite violence...", "Literally never heard of this Travis guy before. Now his name is everywhere. Is he an actual prick or is this a persona he puts on?", "No thanks. I despise hiphop with a passion.", "Nice one Yoda.", "Eh. I witnessed a lady just yesterday smashing windows across the street from city hall. Police showed up and gave her a warning. \n\nWe have laws for sure in CA but a lot of times unless it's big stuff nothing happens. \n\nI reported it, I asked the outcome. Officer said they have to rack up 10s of thousands of dollars in damages then they can drop other off on the sheriff's.", "I may be off here, but are the types of fans at these concerts just as fair to blame? Young, immature, selfish, drunk, impressionable, stupid all seem like a great combination to not give a shit about anyone else.", "Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think it was said that she has $1B in the bank more so that her \"brand\", makeup line, social media presence, appearances, TV show, etc. are all worth a billion collectively.", "Travis Scott seems like a real chill guy!", "i kept thinking it was the blink 182 drummer prior to this fucked up event", "You don't just get to say things that aren't true, he did encourage his fans to bypass security, there are videos of them climbing fences and jumping over gates after he requested it. And as far as the COVID stuff, it was only enforced for those who entered legally, but as he had encouraged his fans to bypass the security, they didn't need to prove anything. Travis was informed by fans only feet away from him that there was a dead person. His staff did inform him, the police informed him, and he continued. Not only did he continue, but when an ambulance came to rescue the injured, he encouraged his crowd to obstruct it. He stared into the eyes of a dead man while still continuing the show. The venue did take some steps to prevent this, but Travis Scott is directly responsible for this.", "rent free", "Never heard of him before today. Now I have seen those two videos of him doing stupid shit on stage to get attention. \nIn Germany we would call him 1 Pimmel.", "> how he should've known the guy was gonna incite violence...\n\nThe fact that he's literally been charged with inciting a riot at his shows before?", "Yeah idk what this asshat is talking about \"woke\" vs \"white people\" culture. Metal is for everyone if isn't \"white people\" culture.", "What an absolute waste of life. Why do people like this shitbag?", "Yeah I had to remove any Travis Scott tracks from my playlist. \n\nI didn't have many but Sicko Mode was hard to let go of at first. Couldn't even enjoy the track anymore.\n\nI didn't know Travis Scott was an asshole like this either.", "Crowd surfing is pretty dangerous to do. Many female rappers usually wear extra tight clothing and a second pair of underwear and tight sports bra to keep people from groping or fingering them. They said that female fans are usually the worst at it too.\n\nLil Uzi Vert ended up having a diamond he had surgically implanted in his forehead, removed by force. Travis having his shoe taken? That's a given. Especially when he expects his fans to break social rules.", "Okey show proof and ill change my mind 😀👍", "Im gone from that rap hellhole.\n\nnow i came to embrace the Kpop Hellhole.", "I’m not watching the video but can someone tells me if he speaks through auto-tune the whole time?", "you have never heard sicko mode? not even hearing it just walking outside?", "do u go outside?", "He didn't follow proto.", "i think they don't care about the hat because Sending someone into the hospital is more expensive than buying a new hat or getting a free one from sponsors.", "I miss the old days when an audience member would yell to David Lee Roth they fuck fucked his wife and the rest of the crowd would cheer", "Was there a single positive moment at this concert?", "Let's just be clear here, these are the actions of a psychopath", "More than likely", "Who is Travis Scott?", "Jacques Bermon Webster II (born April 30, 1991), known professionally as Travis Scott (formerly stylized as Travi$ Scott), is an American rapper, singer, songwriter, and record producer. His stage name is the namesake of a favorite uncle combined with the first name of one of his inspirations, Kid Cudi (whose real name is Scott Mescudi).In 2012, Scott signed his first major-label contract with Epic Records.\n\nMore details here: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travis_Scott> \n\n\n\nThis comment was left automatically (by a bot). If I don't get this right, don't get mad at me, I'm still learning!\n\n[^(opt out)](https://www.reddit.com/r/wikipedia_answer_bot/comments/ozztfy/post_for_opting_out/) ^(\|) [^(delete)](https://www.reddit.com/r/wikipedia_answer_bot/comments/q79g2t/delete_feature_added/) ^(\|) [^(report/suggest)](https://www.reddit.com/r/wikipedia_answer_bot) ^(\|) [^(GitHub)](https://github.com/TheBugYouCantFix/wiki-reddit-bot)", "I don't get why you're trying to victim blame a 17 year old kid. Really? He was supposed to know his favorite idol was gonna encourage the crowd to beat the shit out of him?\n\nAt most that's the parent's fault. He's a minor.. but it still fucking isn't.\n\nWhat Travis did was completely unacceptable. There is an expectation of safety at a concert. It's not only Travis but there is insurance, ToS, venue regulations. We live in a world where concerts happen all the time completely smoothly (yes even for rap/punk or otherwise violent music)\n\nIt's not the kids fault whatsoever.", "Same way with raves, people love to mosh but you get picked up so fast if you fall it's nuts. These BIG concerts freak me out, I much prefer my EDM festivals where I can go sit on the grass and enjoy the show from afar if I need to.", "My money is on this", "With a passion huh?\n\nWhat, did it kick your puppy or something?\n\nGrow up, it's music.", "And everyone believes him or the Kardashians ever cared about fans", "Fuck travis scott", "POS", "It’s always the ones you most suspect", "I would not incite a crowd to commit violence on the guy who may not have even stolen it. Lol, what the fuck?!", "Apparently, to make the big bucks in MMA, you have to do exhibition boxing fights instead.", "so why do people even go to this idiots concerts?", "Apparently his shows are all about being \"hard\" and not having fun. Why would you go see this negative drivel?", "Where do you place sponsor marks?\n\non their pants?\n\non a hat [Of cource](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W7c8QghPxk)", "> I'm sure the only reason he freaked out about the shoe is because they are his. Like the Nikes he wears are made for him.\n\ndoesn't really change your point but he's wearing turtle dove yeezys in this video", "Encouraging violence?\n\n&#x200B;\n\nMust be a Biden voter...", "I'd be like \"come on man.. gimme my shoe back!\"\n\nIn all seriousness, none us know that Travis even knew that the kid took the shoe. He mighta picked it up....", "Uh huh", "I mean the worst part is the hypocrisy", "So like any other state? Unless it is bodily harm or like you said a few thousand of dollar in damages police is not going to hit them with a felony. The person whose window was damaged can sue the person in a civil court if they want to.", "https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/qors07/heres_the_astroworld_promo_video_theyve_deleted/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share\n\nThis is a promotional video made by Travis Scott and his media team. It features footage of several separate instances where he has encouraged fans to bypass security. And this isn't just random footage of these events, he used them to promote the astroworld concert.\n\nhttps://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/qo1eqk/travis_scott_sings_as_he_watches_security_carry/\n\nHere's the part where he stares into the eyes of a dead man but continues anyway.\n\nhttps://www.reddit.com/r/FuckTravisScott/comments/qp5nr9/he_was_able_to_get_his_family_to_safety_kylie/\n\nDespite his claim that he had no idea what happened, his family was escorted to safety only minutes after, meanwhile he performed for 37 minutes after the first death.", "Yes, yes I do. I’ve heard of them, but seeing as my music taste are different from his genre I never took time to truly listen and I wouldn’t be able to even name a song. Individual musical preferences, big shocker I know.", "Yeah but you make Millions a fucking Shoe should be the least of your worries.\n\nimagine if the Kid sued him and he has proof of travis asking people to Beat the living shit of the boi.", "What a piece of shit.", "not since 2020 ;)", "Tell me you're in high school without specifically saying it.", "I'l take \"stuff i just made up\" for 1000, Alex", "Don’t support assholes like this.", "The amount of people trying to defend him in those Twitter threads is abhorrent—you know he doesn't give a fuck about you, right?", "Take that back! The Tatami Galaxy OP slaps!", "If you go to see a shitty person doing a shitty act, you can't really complain when you have a shitty time.\n\nHe won't change from seeing people die in the crowd. It'll just inflate his ego more.", "Likely they were worried what the crowd would do if the sound went off but the artist clearly wanted to continue. Riot time.", "Metal fans are the kind of people that you see on the outside They Might Fuck you op as soon you say hi.\n\nbut they are the most chill person in the world.", "Maybe this helps that and other kids stop listening to trash like this. To think people pays too dolor to go see this guy", "How do the decisions made by your local cops have anything to do with the state of California? Do you think they call the state troopers in every time somebody breaks a window in Texas?", "> Yeah but you make Millions a fucking Shoe should be the least of your worries.\n\nif he just gave away shoes like this at every show he would be broke in no time", "Bruh that doesn't make it okay to incite violence against against him, especially in a crowd. Do you hear yourself?", "well his biggest song came out 2 years before 2020", "so u have heard his songs then.... I'm tired of loser redditors being proud of their ignorance.", "I saw Radiohead in Toronto a number of years ago. In the middle of a banging rendition of Myxomatosis in a dark venue with crazy lighting Thom just stops the band and gets security to call an ambulance because he noticed someone having a seizure in the crowd. Once the dudes safe he picked up right where they left off.\n\nDon't think there's a defensible position here.", "He was known and had hits but he absolutely blew up into the stratosphere after he got involved with the Kardashian family; he never had a #1 single until after he started dating Jenner, after which he quickly blew up and also signed a bevy of corporate deals like with McD's etc.\n\nSame thing happened with Kanye except he was 100x as big as Scott was before hooking up with the Kardashians.", "No, that's his water bottle flying.", "You could make a parody where they just steal everything: chain, shirt, pants and they just keep casually walking", "Yikes, the fans really think that was cool... 😬", "I think that's a water bottle.", "Why did he have his wallet on stage?", "You’re right there is nothing wrong with people enjoying themselves at a music outing. However when a group starts chatting “f#ck him up,” that’s when you know you’re at a douche bag convention. Thats the behavior on display in the clip. \n\nGood luck to you as well.", "Im breaking the thread but I love how out of nowhere theres a \"Your moms house\" thread, and a norm thread from the same comment. I love finding my people. Sup chomos?", "There are very few things ever that warrant a key figure at an event demanding mob violence.", "Maybe if he actually tied his shoes, one of them wouldn't go flying 20' away from him when he goes to make his(completely reckless/uncoordinated/face somehow towards the ground and feet in the air) dive into the crowd. Then again, that could be a steep ask from someone who also apparently doesn't know how to put on pants. \n\nIf anyone needs Xmas gift ideas for Travis Scott, I'd suggest velcro shoes and some suspenders.", "That's because an asshole went in with the intention of punching people in the face. Those fuckers need to be called out and pushed out by the crowd.", "I would wager that at least 60-70% of the people claiming to not know of Travis Scott, do in fact, know of Travis Scott. For some reason, whenever a hip-hop artist hits the top of Reddit for any reason, people get a nice hit of moral high ground serotonin if they tell everyone \"I'VE never heard of him and so I'M very correct and moral in this conversation. I ALSO think hip hop is trash, and my intellect is very high because of this\"", "He has", "wear Cheap ones for those crappy Stage dives... see a fucking solution if you feel 10k for a shoe is more value than getting sued.", "What's worse than the order to hurt someone over a trivial offense was the gleeful enthusiasm the masses showed in carrying it out.", "In fact, I find him rather distasteful as of late. I hope this young man can get his act together", "Out of court settlement for undisclosed amount in 3 2 1...", "Travis got quite the case to fight", "More disturbing than Travis Scott being a huge tool is just the frenzy the people get into that creates these situations.\n\nLike god damn people its just music. Enjoy the fucking music and calm down.", "That is fucked up, but there's something to be said for hanging with a crowd of people that fawn over a guy who brags about being shitty, and then learning that the guy and his fans are shitty.", "Wasn’t it the Weeknd?", "yup, sounds about white", "[It's a nickname.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asterius_(mythology))", "Hahah what a fuckin pussy this ass is", "Okay but don’t you think the audience would notice that he has no drip in those bum ass shoes?", "A little of column a, a little of column b…", "Lol \"make an argument\"\n\n> Get that motherfucker, get him.\n\n> Fuck him up, fuck him up, fuck him up!\n\nand then throwing something at him as he's being escorted out.\n\nYou couldn't just make the argument, any argument you made would be irrefutable. This is the textbook reason for those laws existing. LMFAO. This wasn't tongue-in-cheek at all. There's literally no other way to interpret what he did other than inciting violence.", "If you can't see the difference between beating someone's ass for stealing and inciting a CROWD of people to beat the shit out of someone, you're either trolling or stupid.", "Imagine assaulting someone ONLY because this douche bag told you to", "Fairly certain inciting violence is illegal", "twitter insult =/= inciting violence", "I totally agree with you, but since I’m not a lawyer or a legal expert (I just play one on the Internet sometimes), I played it safe.", "these nerds spend 24/7 inside then act proud that they haven't heard a rap song. like that makes them cool or something.", "Their statement is far more accurate than yours. How many metal shows have you been to? And at how many of them were you punched in the face? \n\nAs someone who has gone to hundreds of metal shows, crowd violence is rare. Mosh pits are intense but the intent is not to hurt eachother. \n\nIt's the world we live in. There will always be assholes no matter where you are.", "You never know when the cocaine man might come around", "??? Umm I hiked Catalina. How about you? Do you get outside?", "He was on that trajectory though. Rodeo was a cult classic by the time astroworld dropped and then sicko mode memed him into the superstardom", "Okay keyboard warrior.", "Says the guy who made up a thing to prommote \"california bad\"\n\nThat term doesn't mean what you seem to think it means.", "Dude throws a shoe at someone and the everyone cheers. People in large crowds with people they idolize can be a recipe for disaster.", "Fuck off troll.", "Sure thing.", "There should be some sort of technology required for people like this. Maybe a necklace or something that deliveres a decent sized electronic shock anytime they speak onto a microphone.", "and? might be expensive shoes but the guys stupid rich, and as you can see in the video he was a massive tool clearly not tying his shoelaces so ofcourse its gonna launch like a rocket when he dives like that.\n\nTravis is a good artist but he got instantly poisoned by the Kardashian PR Horny tactics as soon as he knocked up Kylie. \n\n\nHe sold Astroworld merch costing max 2 dollars and had online digital album downloads attached to these cheap merch items so when ppl bought keychains it boosted Astroworld album sales, so he’s basically had a rise to the top by unethical methods that don’t portray his fame coming from hard work but rather sleazy tactics.", "Why do people like this piece of shit??", "Even if the kid did take it and had a way to respond, it's still stupid, petty, dangerous, and reckless. This fuckface could have gotten a kid killed over a single shoe worth pennies to him.", "Rapper that dated Kylie Jenner. Did concerts in Fortnite. Got a McDonald's meal named after him. Created the song Sicko Mode that became a bit of a meme. Played at the Super Bowl and people think he ruined it as it was right after a SpongeBob thing. \n\nThat's about it.", "First, who the fuck is this asshole?\n\nSecond, why isn't he in prison?\n\nThird, why are that many idiots paying money to watch this fucker?", ">and?\n\nAnd they aren’t custom-made Nikes specifically for him that are 1 of 1. They’re just Yeezys. He could text Ye and ask for another pair.", "The real question is, why does he have fans?", "Imagine the type of person you have to be to take marching orders from a thug...and be willing to hurt others on command.\n\nI am sure their parents would say they are good boys.", "The fact the POS will stop a show to incite violence and spit on a kid because of a fucking shoe, but won't when people are literally dying right in front of him tells us all we need to know. Fuck Travis Scott.", "I see Travis Scott is paying people to boost his presence on social media.\n\nStop making stupid people famous.", "If you can't yell fire in a crowded theater, you can't point directly at someone and yell \"fuck him up\"", "This shit happened in Switzerland at Frauenfeld. No chance you‘ll get anything out of it by suing him. Big difference compared to what you could ‚reach‘ in the US", "I would have thought this looks like a shitty event full of douchebags even when I was 18. Nothing has changed 20 years later.", "I mean the morons that fight to buy every dumbass thing they put their name on are just as much to blame. But at the same time as much as I hate the Kardashians it would be foolish for someone that has the attention of 200m+ people not to monetize it. Kylie Jenner has 280m followers on instagram, figure out how to get $3 and change from each of them you have a billion dollars.", "Real knucklehead I tell ya.", "Haha I know. Your comment just created this funny scenario in my head where a guy in the crowd is hearing this and he turns to his buddy and says \"I'm not entirely sure, but I think Mr. Scott is telling us he wants us to hurt that guy.\"", "You’re ahead of the curve.", "Battery I think. Assault is something like 'displaying intent to harm' or 'threatening someone with harm'. \n\nBattery is when contact is made.", "He doesn’t think that’s why he says such stupid things so confidently.", "It's so easy to be kind, generous, and understanding when you are on his level of wealth and fame. He has no excuse at all for his egregious behavior.", "What about a misdemeanor charge?", "Oh, I remember that one. Happened in Switzerland at Frauenfeld (Open Air in Frauenfeld) AFAIK he didn‘t sue. Two main reasons: In switzerland suing someone doesn‘t get you anything in monetary as not monetary terms - he could‘ve sued him but nothing would‘ve happened. Reason #2 he was 17 years old, dude probably doesn‘t even know how to sue someone, let alone has the money to pay anything for that, especially here in CH. And on top of that he probably thought ‚Well, I took his shoe, so it‘s my fault‘ and didn‘t think he‘d win + didn‘t want anymore attention after being spat at + probably beat up my his idol and the fans…", "Look at this guy. He doesn't know.", "I wouldn't call Rodeo a cult classic. Mostly because cult classics usually have to be good. It did well and had a couple singles that charted but the album was shit. Post-Kardashian association it was like he jumped 3 levels in terms of fame at once.", "lol \n\n\nr/totalynotrobots", "On the contrary, I spend my time outside. In the woods where I hear birds and squirrels, not rap.", "Which is hilarious because that is literally the only reason I knew who he was when the Astroworld news broke. I was like \"Oh fuck it's that guy with the super generic burger meal at McDs.\"", "None. His music was okay before this. But now, I can't support his shit movement. And I won't. Just like Drake. He started grooming minors, I stopped supporting his music. What the music industry does to some people is fucking disturbing. But with that, remember all the great artist out there as well. Way to many to let this idiot make us forget.", "Fucking mob mentality is frightening.", "I live in rural Pennsylvania where outside is not city streets but woods.", "I totally get what you're saying and consumers should choose very carefully (especially nowadays) where they throw monetary support! I would make the case though that targeting young kids to buy his products has created that problem, and he and the giant corporations that sponsor him are guilty in that way.", "Who throws a shoe?", "> diamond he had surgically implanted in his forehead\n\nI thought that idea was fucking wild to begin with so I looked it up and apparently \"surgically-implanted\" is still only skin deep because the whole thing was created by his jeweler. Like, as far as I can tell, he didn't get a surgeon to drill bone-posts or anything, so popping the ludicrously expensive diamond off of his head could've been as easy as getting it caught on someone's hat, clothing, jewelry, or something and ripping whatever needle/metal implement that was connecting the two posts through his skin.\n\nLooks like he got the diamond back, but however it popped off, unless it just came unlatched, sounds like it'd be painful.\n\nAll of that said, I'm reluctant to wear some of my favorite $7 pins out on bags or whatever if I think I'm going to be around a lot of people, why on Earth would you crowd surf with a $27million diamond loosely pinned into your forehead?", "You are being purposefully obtuse. The shoe is not the issue.\n\nThe issue is a famous guy being irresponsible by yelling through a microphone for an influential crowd to beat this kid's ass. That is stupid and dangerous. Why are you arguing against this point?", "I'd like to know how many \"massive names\" out there you are unfamiliar with.\n\nDon't get triggered because people who don't follow hip hop or the kardashians don't know who some guy is.", "What the fuck. Maybe the bands I enjoyed have chill fanbases in general, but after seeing hundreds of bands, many of whom were pretty famous, I've never seen an artist outright get grabbed or some shit while interacting with the crowd. Usually everyone's just having a hell of a time, and when the artist points toward the stage, the crowd surfs them back.", "Damn, he knocked up kylie? Lucky man. Unless she looks nothing like her pictures, then, stupid man.", "Real class act.", "Reminds me of a time i took a trip to Egypt with my girlfriend. We rode the subway in Cairo. She did not go into the women's only car. We didn't think it was necessary. We made it exactly one stop before we had to ~~exit~~ flee.\n\nhttps://egyptianstreets.com/2014/07/24/the-womens-subway-car-separate-unequal-and-harassed/\n\nMen from all around us reached over and aggressively groped her. I stood around her, trying to block the men and knock hands away, but hydra-like, for every hand I struck, two more took its place. It was quite honestly one of the more shocking moments I've experienced. Completely no regard for her as a person.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/OIVIDmuJZLI\n\nIt's why whenever I read a story like: \n\nhttps://www.cnn.com/2012/06/27/world/meast/egypt-journalist-assaulted/index.html \n\nor \n\nhttps://people.com/tv/former-cbs-reporter-lara-logan-revisits-terrifying-rape-by-mob-in-egypt-amidst-25-million-lawsuit/ \n\nit's horrifying, but not surprising.", "I don’t think it makes sense or is okay to do, but this man is a multimillionaire and could stand to be less materialistic.", "Jesus this is an absolute fucking child, how does he have even one fan?", "Exactly, my friend is an idiot no wonder he was oblivious, he says thank you internet Rando.", "Nobody show the video of one of his other concerts, where they're crowdsurfing some kid's (literally) lifeless body after he was trampled to death.\n\nThis guy needs to be permanently locked up, it's not the first time shit like this has happened. And he is the one who incites it.", "I hope that kid sues the shit out of Travis.\n\nIncite violence against kid? Check.\n\nSpit on kid? Check.\n\nChuck water bottle at kid? Check.\n\n\n\nThis is not a role model, this is a punk ass bitch, and no one should be looking up to him.", "Nah dude, a whole bunch of people in the crowd pushed against the backs of those in front of them. The motion has to start somewhere. I'm looking at the front page of the NYT right now and there's an article talking about how the organizers knew this crowd was going to be particularly difficult to control.\n\nAnd you're vastly underestimating the draw of large metal events.", "Travis Scott is sponsored by Nike, McDonalds and PlayStation", "Travis Scott is sponsored by Nike, McDonalds and PlayStation", "Hey! He is sponsored by Nike, McDonalds and PlayStation. All kinds of access to youth! I know what I’m not buying for Christmas!", "Garbage person", "Travis Scott is sponsored by Nike, McDonalds and PlayStation", "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment", "Step 4: Use sponsorship money from Nike, McDonalds and PlayStation to cover legal bills, rinse and repeat.", "Don’t help him pay his legal fees! Travis Scott is sponsored by Nike, McDonalds and PlayStation", "say what you want about travis but don't talk about a woman like that.", "No, it isn’t. Not saying you shouldn’t listen to it. I hate it from the bottom of my heart.", ">Kylie Jenner.\n\nWho?", "The IQ of his crowd/following has to be dismal. The ability of the human race to follow idiots who make noise is a tie to our primal past for sure. Insert national geographic footage of monkeys and their similar social behavior in the wild here. And these poor people/fans don't even know how stupid they look.", "WHO TF are the Kardashenians, ??? are they like a Star Trek species?", "👁", "Cancel travis Scott", "this is the first time i’ve ever heard of this i’m so sorry that happened to your girlfriend and any woman who can’t just live with fear of being sexually assaulted. “99 percent of women in Egypt have had some form of sexual assault” what the actual fuck", "If only there had been some evidence that this Travis Scott is an untalented jerk before this tragedy happened, then perhaps it could have been avoided.\n\nLike if there were loads of different videos on the internet where he comes off as pure garbage.", "Rodeo is legit a fantastic trap album", "Why?\n\nIt's just music, what did it do to anger you so?\n\nSeems like you have a mental problem you need to deal with if a type of music can trigger you like this snowflake.", "\"Where the hell have you been?!\"", "That’s incriminating", "I don’t like it either but it’s definitely a cult classic in its genre there’s no arguing that", "Being that fucking stupid sounds painful", "Okay so he can* stop a show in order to try and fuck up a fan and get others to join, but he can't when people are being trampled to death and the medics have no way of getting to them. Fucking Christ.", "Huh. Fans of idiots are also idiots.", "Event photographer does photography: STOP THE SHOW\n\nFan steals a shoe: STOP THE SHOE\n\nFans die and get inured: I sleep", "I am not triggered. It’s you who are because I insulted your favourite type of sounds. I hate the culture, the people, the clothes, the lyrics, the attitude, the glorifying of criminals, gangsters etc. \n\nThe one thing I like is that they kill each other constantly. A dead rapper always brings a smile to my face\n\nWhat are you going to do? Cry about it in the safe space?", "Yeah, guarantee this dudes don't actually think Affliction or Tap Out are cool brands but hey, if you get paid thousands of dollars to wear a hat for a minute why not.", "astroworld was a good album for a year. I think it lacked a slickness that was refreshing for its time. is the albm still enjoyable? personally im over it", "My favorite music is metal, but you sound racist.\n\nYou make me sick.", "Where would you leave it? In the green room with the roadies? no thank you.", "Nah they're too fatty\n\nBurn them as fuel", "Thanks to the Avengers movies, most people are now aware that if someone has a jewel in their head you can just pop it out and put it in your glove. Sorry Uzi.", "Hahaha racist hurdur nazi hurdur \n\nIf you don’t like hiphop, you are racist…ok, buddy\n\nLet me guess: American?", "That's a bit sexist of you. Both men and women have the capacity to be cunty.", "almost as if people who brag about their wealth and status constantly are shitty people. pop culture seems to have forgotten long ago", "It definitely made the rest of the trip feel... off. Outside of that incident, everybody we met in a one-on-one capacity was friendly and nice and didn't try to sexually assault my girlfriend. But on a normal day, during normal business hours, that group of men on the subway were pretty much the worst.", "Was just being cheeky. But yes, I do go outside and had never heard of him until now. I think maybe our city's outside speakers are broken?", "You might be thinking of Travis Tritt?", "You sound like a racist because of the whole \"hate the culture\" bit, not the not liking the music bit.\n\nLet me guess, still racist?\n\nDoesn't matter where I'm from, you still sound like a fucking prick.\n\nNow go get upset over music more you little bitch.", "Now you see how.cults form", "Look who is upset here cursing and everything. \nI’m Syrian so I’m probably darker than you.\n\nDid I hurt your precious feelings?", "\"I'll have a fan murderer please\"", "That is RIPE for a Key and Peele skit.", "I don't give a fuck what shade you are, you can still be a racist Syrian prick.", "He's a super popular rapper, you've probably heard his song Sicko Mode even if you don't recognize who he is.", "Kid, you’re about to be a millionaire.", "Stop making douche bags famous.", ">he thinks they are there to worship him\n\nThey are though, that's the sad reality", "I can already see it, and it's hilarious.", "The problem is systemic misogyny. You have a lot of poor uneducated youth that only have their religion to live by, and use that as a pretense for justifying how they are superior to someone, anyway, which in this case is women so they dont even treat the other as a person. \n\nThese would be the assholes in any other country, but when the law enforcement doesn't really care or even condones it, you get these kinds of half measures like women only trains.", "That was pretty much Donald Trump's business strategy in the 80s. He used the perception of wealth to shift his business from real estate (where he was failing) to branding (where he did fairly well) and then used that to secure higher loans from Deutsche Bank, and his loans were so high that the bank would keep giving him more and bailing him out when business ventures went poorly because he owed so much to them that him losing everything would cost them hundreds of millions.\n\nBeing rich makes it easier to be richer.", "The law doesn't need to be changed lol, inciting violence is already prohibited by law.", "When I was a teenager and crowd surfing at shows, you know what the possibilities were and planned accordingly. You cranked down your shoe laces before going for a surf. And you left your wallet and Nokia with your friends and took turns. Amazing that I, at 14, had a stronger grasp of the consequences of my choices than this grown man.", "Haha what? I agreed to being assaulted is a bad thing. Where the fuck are you at? What Travis did is horrible. Tf are you on.\n\nHis music is trash.", "Hey, some things are worth stopping the show over. But ambulances and people literally dying just isn't one of those things.", "Yep, as long as we keep the Nazis out. The only bad part of metal culture is that there is a skinhead subculture within it, but they're pretty much hated by the other metal fans and usually get driven out of shows.", "He just shared his opinion. You are overreacting.", "I'd invite him to touch my camera through the fence.", "I never really liked Travis Scott overall as an artist to begin with. I found a few songs that had good instrumentals and an okay vibe. \n\nI liked the sounds in the song Astroworld but now that I've watched some of these concert videos and hearing the auto tune nature of it and the association with the event playing in the back of the videos I can't really stomach it. \n\nI maybe had 3-4 Songs/Features out of a 1500 song hip-hop playlist on YouTube.", "You better bet I'm coming up in May.", "unfortunately most of them are too far gone, we need to tell people to leave if they value our human rights and then after a month, glass their stupid ass country to the stone age", "Yeah, bigger artists need to be aware of crowd-rushes and stop them because people will get hurt. Someone posted a video yesterday of one starting at a Guns n Roses show, the guitars kept playing but got soft and Axl Rose told everyone in the audience to stop and take one step back so people didn't get hurt. That's how to handle the situation instead of being Travis Scott and encouraging it to get worse.", "damn reddit has a hate boner for this guy", "Everyone in this video is a complete fucking moron.", "8 wrongful death suits, easy cases for reckless endangerment and wanton negligence on Scott's part. Plenty more personal injury suits. This'll be a big payout.", "I'm sure those boys would be proud.", "Its not an artists job to moderate, but it is an artist’s job to respond to major issues at their event and work with the event organizers to address them and prevent further incident. If an organizer tells you that folks are getting hurt, its in your power to stop performing and speak to the crowd.\n\nThe fact that we haven’t even seen him take 10 minutes to address the crowd and how this behavior isn’t acceptable even after 8 deaths is insane. He encouraged 50k attendees to rush the stage and has incited violence in incidents like this video.\n\nEven if the injuries and deaths aren’t directly his fault, his lack of response represents gross negligence on his end.", "I'm starting to feel less bad about this whole tragedy.", "I've heard him. His shit sucks. I don't seek out more of it.", "It's probable too that they've all at least heard Sicko Mode, even if they don't know who it's by.", "You mean Jaques Webster?", "Truth is though, that kid chose to go to a Travis Scott concert - so he can't have much of a future either way.", "I think you're getting downvoted because people think you're joking. His name is actually Jacques Webster, that's just a fact.", "where was the funny", "dafuq is wrong with people. Fire in a crowded theatre is one thing, but something as relatively insignificant as getting closer?", "Nah you could see that tiny head shake and the internal \"man, again?\"", "I guess what’s so annoying abt this is that it wouldn’t even be more than 1 ticket sale to replace that shoe and he definitely endangered that kids life. People love travis people and don’t know this kid. And you can imagine how many fans would have loved to be the guy actually fucking em up.", "This is sick.", "I bet this kid got paid.", "Kid steals Travis’ Sole he freaked out\n\nTravis steals kids souls nobody bats an eye", "why hasn’t be been imprisoned?", "First non sport related meal.", "Rule #1: no Nazis allowed.", "okay bruh do u honestly think travois took time out of his life and sat down personally and made that video or do you think the organizer for the event did it. again i never said the organizers weren't to blame.\n\nsecondly the video is taken out of context and if you wait a few seconds he says this \n\n[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bggq9xIRKM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bggq9xIRKM)\n\nbro have you ever been outside or gone to a concert in almost every concert with a big hip-hop star people pass out. this may be from a lack of O2 and shit like that. btw i cant wait to see how many of the people who died OD on drugs. you should wait until all the information is out before jumping to conclusions...\n\n&#x200B;\n\nJUMP OUT THE HOUSE JUMP OUT THE HOUSE JUMP OUT THE HOUSE JUMP OUT THE HOUSE JUMP OUT THE HOUSE JUMP OUT THE HOUSE JUMP OUT THE HOUSE JUMP OUT THE HOUSE JUMP OUT THE HOUSE JUMP OUT THE HOUSE JUMP OUT THE HOUSE JUMP OUT THE HOUSE JUMP OUT THE HOUSE JUMP OUT THE HOUSE", "@0:15 you see a shoe flying by\n\nNope it's a hat", "no need for quotation marks, the dude is objectively extremely popular. I'm sure there are some people I don't know - but unlike the typical reddit dumbass on here i'm not gloating over NOT knowing something. Especially in music which is very popular right now, not knowing some names this big does just show you dont get out much", "Even just like, driving/walking past that one annoying car with the stereo too loud, you'd have to have heard Highest in the Room or Sicko Mode at some point", "You sound like a fucking moron. Congrats!", "Everyone here doesn’t understand. This isn’t new. This is his concert culture. He’s known for putting on the wildest shows in the music industry. People love this shit. Thats the crowd he attracts. Everyone who attends these knows what they are signing up for because ALL HIS SHOWS ARE LIKE THIS. FOR YEARS ITS BEEN THIS WAY. \n\nSeriously, the people who are outraged are the people that are new to this scene. But stop acting like he’s to blame for going crazy this time. This is literally his conduct at every single show.", "That concert attenders all like like a blur of short, wannabe cool losers. Like wow, you call that fun, but it’s just your sad attempt to fit in, and look ridiculously lame and uncool despite feeling the opposite.\n\nI’m no surprised most everyone is so short, they just do drugs and alcohol and have trash diets lol. Worship your false god who is a piece of trash, well I guess it makes sense that trash worships trash.", "Professional fighters, at least the ones I've met and trained with, generally aren't insecure in their masculinity or \"tough guy\" image and don't really feel a need to defend it. \n\nBut also come on, don't take people's hats.", "Viking... Folk... Metal. I may have to check that out.", "Why do we keep canceling people for inconsiderate choices of words, while letting others get away with literal violence towards kids?", "this kid is fucking STUPID AND SHOULD FUCKING SUE THIS MOTHER FUCKER its possible he stole his shoe or it fell off... but travis using the crown to beat him, him spitting on him and throwing shit at him... i \nfucking WISH A RICH ASS MOTHERFUCKER WOULD DO ALL OF THAT SHIT TO ME WHICH IS 100% ILLEGAL....", "He was big before then.", "These people did not pass out, they were crushed to death. Their organs were squeezed until they burst, their heads were caved in, their lungs were torn open by their fractured ribcages, and you compare it to someone who's short of breath. This was a preventable disaster which I believe Travis Scott caused. If you don't believe the same that's fine, but you cannot deny he did nothing to help. You cannot deny that he saw an ambulance and told his fans to obstruct it. You cannot deny that staff attempted to stop the show and he continued. You cannot deny that people were screaming for help just a few feet away and he did nothing. You cannot deny that he encouraged a fan to jump off a balcony and become paralyzed, you cannot deny that he told his fans to beat up some kid holding his shoe. Travis Scott has always had a history of particularly unsafe shows, you can say we need to wait for all of the information to be out, but I've seen years of his recklessness hurting people so I feel like I have all the information I need. \n\nNotice how you never countered my point about him obstructing the ambulance? Or how you never countered my point about him encouraging fans to beat up the kid with his shoe? You've been provided with ample evidence and you said you would change your mind but you haven't, instead you simply deny that the evidence means anything and bury your head further in the sand. I'm not saying Travis is solely responsible for what happened, part of the blame rests on the venue, and on the fans too, but he certainly did not help when he could have. If I was in a position to save a life at no risk or consequence to my own well being, and I didn't do it, I would be responsible for that death, and Travis Scott is responsible for those 8.", "Gotta think there is a locker or a safe somewhere backstage", "this mofo needs to be in jail, for like a decade. (thats a good camera though)", "This is incredibly immature. It’s a quick reminder that engaging with a moron on the internet is never worth it. Do us both a favor and don’t respond to this. You probably can’t help it, though.", "...a cop?", "This!!!!", "Remember when McDonald’s had the meal this guy named himself after? They were cum guzzling 25/7 for that promotion. Just jerking millions of cocks into their special sauce. \n\nTake your complaints to McDonald’s, who will absolutely see results. Nobody cares if you target the meal guy directly. Advertisers are where the money is at.", "So uncultured, clearly you don't get out to McDonalds enough", "I know you are but what am I?", "There are so many people making so much great music everyday. No reason to waste our time on these selfish twats!", ">Imagine being a 17-year-old kid, going to see one of your favorite ‘artists’ in concert, catching his shoe while said ‘artist’ crowd surfs, and then not just getting YELLED at by the guy you came to see but also threatened with bodily harm! God thinking about that poor kid makes me feel so bad. He must have been heartbroken.\n>\n>ETA oh and also getting fucking SPIT on. What a total shit. \n\nThis is the parent comment to what I totally agreed with.", "Lmao, that's a Travis Scott song? Lmao I thought it was a Drake song featuring <insert unknown generic sounding rapper from the $1 bin>", "I mean at another one of his concerts he also made fun of gay people…", "I didn't realise we'd flown back in time to having moral panics about the content of songs. There are plenty of artists and bands that have violent songs, songs about drugs, suicide, crime, etc... and that doesn't make them bad people or \"trash\". Being a bad person makes you a bad person - nothing more, nothing less. Hate on Travis Scott all you want - he deserves it - but don't turn this into some weird moralistic debate about the content of art.\n\nEspecially when it comes to black artists and hip hop artists and the historical criticisms they've faced, the whole \"they make songs about crimes and drugs and violence and blah blah blah\" shtick just comes off as vaguely racist.", "For real if the kid stole tje shoe he should be frightend but did he get injured???? Travis is know for his crazy concerts thats what people like and want. The conversation has become circular and i guess its also the parents fault for giving birth to the children according to your logic😂😂😂", "Yeah bro. I mean if he's like that all the time people should just accept that it's totally fine behavior. Am I right?? Idiot.", "Crowd should have trampled him", "The \"I don't care until it personally effects me\" mentality.", "Then you responded to the totally wrong comment by accident, and this is a huge misunderstanding. If that's the case then I apologize for what I said, but it [certainly did appear that way](https://imgur.com/a/9gxLeSl).", "They were live streaming the show and producers were worried about their profits of the stream sponsors if they cut it short...", " he dident get beat up. 😪😪😪 liberal owend with logics and facts", "This is so old", "Well they are weathered for this. Travvy patty is simply a kardy boi with high standards for his clothing. Prob had his “ice” in his heel pocket /s", "I where was the outrage 5 years ago. Do you just care now cause people died at a concert. People dying in crowd rushes at concerts has happened for a long time.", "This didnt age well", "Btw wheres the video of him telling his fans too stop the ambulance", "Incite.", "Wow. A grown man orders his fans to assault a child on his behalf and you defend it... Travis doesn't even fight his own fights, just gets his dumbass fans to assault people for him. and as far as \"did he get injured?\" A.) That is not the point, it's still wrong no matter what, but B.) Yeah he did, Travis even spit on him, which is considered assault, so your technicality loving ass should be all over him for that. Look, I get it, I understand it's difficult to accept that people you look up to or enjoy are in the wrong, but it's important to recognize when someone is going too far and to call them out on it. The best case scenario is that this serves as a wakeup call for Travis and he takes steps to stop this from happening again. It would be great to see him own up to this and promise to change, but if his past is anything to go by I'm not holding my breath. I can tell I'm not going to be able to convince you so I hope you have a good day and maybe in time you'll see it from another perspective. All the best to ya man.", "What a cunt.", "I don’t think anyone doubts whether or not they’re billionaires. \n\nThe thing everyone was fighting over at the time was the fact that they were also claiming she was a “self-made*” billionaire, because of the makeup. \n\nThat’s bullshit no matter which way you slice it. Nobody associated with Kardashian anything is self-made whatsoever.", "can you say something funny instead of just saying what a cunt no personality", "I’m so glad I’m not a part of this generation of music", "This ain't a comedy sub pal. And just stating facts.", "You get pretty large crowds for metal bands at festivals.", "I heard motion that he dropped his glasses, everyone immediately stopped and started looking. They were already broken unfortunately, but it was really something how everyone just stopped on a dime to help this dude out.", "17 child hhahahahaah no way he spatt on him oh no i feel so bad for him. bro i dont even like travis scott i just like to debate with people. have a nice life", "He’s done, fuck cancel culture, but this one can go", "Ah, I see your point, that makes sense. I honestly didn't even think about the distinction.", "THAT is hilarious.", "I am not your pal u properly have no pals but your insults are getting better .", "Lol type much? \n\nPAL.", "He's even been arrested for it multiple times", "Already filed", "Some cunt who got famous because her dad was OJ’s lawyer and her sister is a first rate whore.", "says the guy with 21k karma go back to r/fatcats or some shit", "I mean point 3 is true lol. What’s that have to do with the conversation?", "Lol wut. \n\nYou always this stupid? I'm guessing so.", "Words are violence, physical violence is peaceful. That is the world we live in now.", "That’s not very ecologically responsible. Probably better to cut them up into pieces and fertilize your garden instead.", "I’m just going to say, yes, you should. From Afar is a good album to start with.", "stupid my insults where pretty good like at least a 7/10 ur starting to underperform saying shit like you always this stupid only grants you a 5/10 you can do better", "you either a sussy baka, or a bussy suka", "Wait u have cat in your username i swear on my granpas neck i did not see that when i said r/fatcats hahahahha", "I don’t understand how this guy is famous", "People in here are really confused what cult means. Cult is closer to niche than widely regarded. It’s not a synonym for hugely popular or successful but it still has a place among diehard fans.\n\ncult classic\n\n\nA film that has a passionate fan base despite lacking critical acclaim, box office success, and/or mainstream interest. \n\nIt applies to music too.\n\n\nI’m not disagreeing with you, this is just a good comment to respond to in hopes people will stop saying cult when they mean critically acclaimed", "There's not a lot of rocket scientists, engineers or surgeons in that crowd. Safe to say their collective IQ couldn't bake a decent lasagna.", "Yeah and when they reach the ring they're just ready to go, the fans help them to strip down to the right clothing.", "I'd be seeing dollarsigns from the lawsuit me and my lawyer would be preparing after discovering those damning videos of the incident.", "Am I the only one that can't understand a fucking thing he says?", "Funny....but no cops did that.", "I never even heard of this loser before he let people die at his show. Fuck this guy.", "Lol who the fuck cares about what YOU rate an insult as? YOU don't matter to me. Don't talking to your bitch ass now. Byeeeeeee.", "It’s strange to blame them. They simply provide a product that people are willing to pay for. Literally every single one of us would take the same opportunity.", "Yes, because it seems someone thought that ONN was showcasing a blueprint for the future more so than a warning, and thus [shit like this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmCjJ0VBjjU) actually becomes a reality", "Hhahaha stfu noob you will never be global", "No Im not saying that. Don’t put words in my mouth moron. Learn how to read.\n\nEveryone on reddit is hearing about his antics for the first time ever. This has been the case his whole career. Everyone in that crowd including the 17 year old, is there because they love that shit. They go there knowing this.", "Look a multi millionaire can’t afford to replace his shoes that were likely a promotional gift to begin with. This shit stain calls himself an artist too!", "Imagine assaulting someone over a shoe. Not even your* shoe.", "It looks like he kicked the shoe off when he jumped in. Yup thats definitely a shoe flying in the air. He probably didnt realize whos shoe he just caught and then got blamed and jumped. What a fucked situation.", "TIL.\n\nHaving read that discovery article, I think it's reasonable to say that the percentages commonly presented in it's conclusion are probably higher than the study justifies, but the notion that a non-insignificant percentage of people will \"listen to authority\" even when told to do something immoral is still a valid conclusion.", "Man hope do you even know if he meant to take it, like it could have just come loose when the kid tried to pick him up", "Yeah, based on this douche nozzles previous behavior I think it's a very valid concern that he would start riling his idiot fans into a frenzy if the music was just turned off. Then instead of saving people, the EMS might have been injured themselves.", "I think he's a prick but this is a bigger failure on the concert organizers. It feels disingenuous to me to think Travis Scott knew people were dead/dying in the middle of a show. Once the organizers knew the severity of the situation, then they should have told Scott, cut the mics, made an announcement. I'm not even a fan of Scott btw.", "Is Travis Scott the guy famous for having a McDonald meal?", "I remember my first and only time being in a mosh pit. Fell to the floor and was certain bad times were coming. Within seconds I felt a couple of hands around me yanking me back to my feet. Good guys.", "It's scary to know that most of these people, so easily manipulated, are voters. We either need to up the age requirement or you need to pass some sort of cognitive test before you can vote.", "That was actually some pretty weak \"surfing\"", "No love for Travis Scott, but saying that he is generic is like saying the Strokes are generic because Is This It sounds like every alt rock project from the 2000s, or like saying that Radiohead is generic because it sounds like early Coldplay.", "And do you think it's normal for 8 people to die in normal rap shows?", "If you fall in the mosh pit people will surround you to make a human wall and to help you up so you don’t get further injured.", "Did he carry his shoes in his teeth for a moment before spitting on that teen?", "If he wasn’t, he’s about to be", "and violently assaulted by an angry mob..?!", "How is this propaganda? The video literally shows Travis Scott directing a crowd to attack another human being?", "Who?", "Bruh you’re raging at a stranger on the internet about how rap music hurts your feelings while saying some really dog whistle racist shit like that you hate “the people”. Chill. It looks pathetic.", "I would consider that mosh pit rule no. 1!", " Exactly. He has always understood mob mentality and he eats that shit up. He even admitted to it in an interview with Rolling Stone 6yrs ago. He knew that kid could have been beaten to death. He wanted to hurt him. What kind of artist hypes up their audience to fuck a fan up?!", "The term “punk ass bitch” was created for people like him. He knows his music is the lowest common denominator of autotune frat bro rap. His only gimmick has always been whipping his crowds up into a frenzy. He deserves criminal charges and to be erased from the industry.", "You’re exactly right. The argument has already been made. He’s been arrested twice in the past for this same shit. His bullshit antics are so bad the Houston Chief of Police met with him hours before the show to tell him to cut the shit bc it was gonna get someone killed.", "This guy is next level honestly", "you're the one who called a woman a bimbo", "I’ve heard the name, knew he was some rapper or something, other than that I’ve never listened to his music by choice. \n\nToo busy listening to actually good music. Whatever genre he considers himself, it’s not for me. Not sure how that makes people like me a shut in nerd, but ok.", "Problem number ONE is people that actually listen to this bullshit music....", "> \n> Too busy listening to actually good music.\n\nThere are a LOT of great rap artists though so this is a pretty trash take. There are even good trap artists, and his rodeo album is an artistic high for that genre.\n\n>Not sure how that makes people like me a shut in nerd, but ok.\n\npeople who've never even heard of this type of music would have to not be a part of any social gatherings in a bar, club, festival or house party with any significant group of people.= over the past 5 or so years.", "If he was more self-centered he would collapse in on himself", "I certainly am not a music guy. So take my opinion as it is. He just sounds generic AF to me. 🤷 Sorry", "Allegedly, you could just throw the word \"allegedly\" in every statement you make to be safe. That makes you safe from getting sued....allegedly.", "Big cringe energy right here.", "Yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying. He sounds generic because he was one of the pioneers of the sound that non-music people like you hear in the mainstream.", "\\#just monkey things", "Whoever he is, he’s a dumbass for jumping", "He is about to physically hurt or get seriously hurt in a cage with another man, a hat is the least of his concern.", "r/fucktravisscott", "So, I know nothing about Travis Scott, but with all of these videos coming out … this guy has just always been a garbage person right?", "Unpopular opinion: I blame all of the billionaires hoarding wealth of being greedy assholes. They manipulate young consumers and are scummy af.", "Or they're older than 25. This is music marketed to kids", "travis scotts breakout album was in 2015, and himself is 30. So if you were in your early 20s getting into him (like most people were) then you're likely over 25 now. This form of rap of course has a young audience, but its also literally the most popular type of music on the planet and is listened to by older people. \n\nAlso, I feel people over 25 still have set foot in bars and clubs lol. I'm 30 and have known him at least since 2013 as he did a lot of production on a very prominent kanye album", "He do look like one though. Beast and legend.", "They don’t hurt people on command?", "Can we stop with this unnuanced view. \n\nA) They are in no way mutually exclusive.\n\nB) There is no \"we\". You are describing consequences, he doesn't have consequences because a big enough portion of his fan base is shit.", "Yea I agree. Just got pissed and carried away.", ">Travis Scott\n\nLiterally who?", "Fair enough", "This asshole needs to burn.", "Those stewards would have absolutely hated the TS during that entire incident.", "Well, hearing him at a bar doesn't mean you're going to bother figuring out whose song is playing. Unless you think his stuff is so head-turning that everyone who hears it come on in a public setting is going to be like \"wow, who is this artist?\"\n\nsome people just don't give a fuck about whoever the trendiest pop guy is\n\n\\and if you're checking the production credits on Kanye albums then maybe you're a bit of a nerd too, nothing wrong with it", "As a mere mortal concert attendee, I always wear my shittiest shoes to shows. Festivals 101: don't bring anything you aren't ok with losing or getting wrecked.", "If she looks as good as she does in her dolled-up pictures, I'm sure she's comfortably above average when she wakes up without makeup. There's a time/place/tactful way to bash the Kardashians and this ain't it.", "Sadly, criminal charges leads to street cred which just fuels these assholes. I'm hoping criminal charges for killing your fans does the opposite effect though. Judging by the amount on reddit still defending him? Unlikely.", "Inciting violence, battery... what a fucking piece of shit", "I am 100% a music nerd. I never denied that. I'm just saying the people who've never even heard of this guy over the last 5 years have to be living under a rock or not socialize much.", "Then I'm just saying not everyone's social life revolves around trap music. Even the most popular artists only represent what a plurality of people listen to, not necessarily the majority.", "Can get sued to bankruptcy. His net worth is apparently $60M. That’s not a ton of lawyer hours.", "v1 yeezys were good, new yeezys are meh", "These clips are really old, they haven’t worn their own sponsors in years.", "He lost a shoe and [Billie Eilish](https://youtu.be/xFGA1u42Zrw) lost a Diamond ring. Completely different reactions.", "I also called a man a cunt. I'm inclusive in my insults. Everybody gets one!", "I vote we hang all these mfs", "I'd love to walk out with like, 17 fukin hats", "I don't think that's a great idea.", "Wtf is travis scott", "Are yall seriously just now finding out now that this guy is a piece of shit?", "Clearly thinks he's [Green Day](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIUp1pQ4tEs) but forgot he's a cunt.", "Yea, that shit happens. Every show there's going to be someone holding a up a shoe missing its owner.", "Take a break from whatever media you’re consuming that’s making you sound like that much of a geriatric conservative. You’re this close to yelling about a war on Christmas.", "what you're talking about", "Just because someone is \"objectively extremely popular\" doesn't mean everyone knows who they are. I'm reminded of [this intel ad](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=811z3ktTh-U), which does a good job showing that just because someone is popular in a field doesn't automatically make them a household name.\n\nJust think about all those times when you found out a friend of yours or whatever didn't know something you thought was common knowledge. Or they didn't know who some celebrity was.\n\nIt's not that strange.\n\nAnd as someone who doesn't follow \"popular music,\" I listen to what I listen to and find new music via friends, communities, concerts, I'm not browsing the spotify hot list to find new stuff to listen to. To suggest someone doesn't know who this guy is because they don't get out much?\n\nNot everyone is subbed to hiphopheads. Some people do not care for hip hop at all, don't follow it, tune out when people start talking about it.\n\nI'm sure we can play this game with rock, country, kpop, find massive* names in those genres that someone hasn't heard of. If someone doesn't know who Jungkook is, I'm not going to think they're some shut-in.", "Remember when Trump encouraged his supporters to punch protestors at his rallies, and his supporters cheered him for it?\n\nI guess telling your supporters to beat up a guy suddenly isn't okay with Texans when you're black!", "Because he’s a pos that only cares about himself and his money . But there go their fans saying he shouldn’t be held responsible for anything . Lmao", "Can someone beat this douche with a shoe?", "I hope they are making a museum with all these swiped hats.", "Guys an animal. Nothing to see here. Clearly something like this was bound to happen at his shows.", "I'm a metalhead. \n\nWhen I see footage of this clown crowd surfing, or working the pit in front of the stage, I just see an untalented hack who's trying to recreate the vibe and energy from shows of bands that I like. \n\nHere's the difference though that this asshole doesn't seem to understand very well: when we mosh and go nuts at a Slipknot show, we the crowd aren't fixing to give people brain damage and be assholes. Sure there are some in the crowd looking to be idiots, but they usually get dealt with and pushed out pretty quick. \n\nThis guy's just a loser who has completely misinterpreted the pit culture from extreme bands he'll never be on the same level of. A pit isn't about severe brain damage and death. A pit is a mutual dance of aggression between fans. We're there to go nuts with one another, not AGAINST one another.", "Like most of the star trek humanoid species the Kardashians are also just bad actors with bad facial makeup", "What a reckless piece of shit.", "You say for me not to put words in your mouth - but in the same comment also comment that EVERY attendee \"loves that shit\" and \"goes there knowing this\". \nOh the irony.\nMoron.", "Thems fightin words", "What a shitty human being. His stupidity for not tying his damn shoes properly in the first place. Cunt should think before doing. His ass would be 1 of many that I personally want to deck honestly.", "Just a couple of naked dudes wrastlin'", "So that they can be stolen duh. Am I the only one who that is super obvious to\n\nIt's literally a fake show made for basic monkeys", "This should be posted everywhere with Travis and Kylie tagged in it every single time. Hundreds and thousands of times", "Do not support this POS. F the Kardashians", "This guy is creating more assholes than society can prevent. Kids idolizing him, thinking this is cool. “Look at how many people love him” is all they see .. well that and “look what he does for people to admire him” \n\nAnd Kylie.. left in the dust in the looks department by her sister.. clearly on this guys dick for his fame. I can’t even imagine sitting in a room while those two try to have an adult conversation. \n\nThis word is becoming a bunch of children being idolized by children. So scary.", "This guy is a disgrace to society… and has taken way too many kids down with him. Generation of trash.", "I've never heard of this guy before this week, but from what I gather from the video is that he's some sort of idiot made famous by even bigger idiots.\n\nAm I close?", "Well of course", "Are any musical artists actually role models?", "Pretty much. No talent and made more famous for sticking his dick in a kardashian/jenner", "Upvoted solely for your username. The world would be a better place if your version was the norm instead of that other version.", "> He has no excuse at all for his egregious behavior.\n\nEven more so when you consider that he was the one who chose to stage dive.", "A billionaire lost his shoe. \n\nHow will he ever afford a replace it?", "> He's even been arrested for it multiple times\n\nI'm an old fart at this point, so more of a Public Enemy fan than a Travis Scott fan. Frankly, he sounds more like a country singer than a rapper. But something tells me that people who actually know who TF he is find that an even bigger reason to go to his shows. \n\n^^And ^^as ^^much ^^as ^^I ^^hate ^^to ^^admit ^^it, ^^I'm ^^sure ^^I ^^would ^^have ^^felt ^^exactly ^^the ^^same ^^way ^^when ^^I ^^was ^^the ^^age ^^of ^^most ^^of ^^his ^^fans.", "> Imagine being a 17-year-old kid, going to see one of your favorite ‘artists’ in concert, catching his shoe while said ‘artist’ crowd surfs, and then not just getting YELLED at by the guy you came to see but also threatened with bodily harm! God thinking about that poor kid makes me feel so bad. He must have been heartbroken.\n\nI saw the band Social Distortion in about 1990-91 with a good friend of mine, Jeff. He was like 24 or so at the time, and already prematurely balding, so he just shaved his head to not look ridiculous. He was a huge fan of band.\n\nElsewhere in the crowd were a group of skinhead (aka Nazi) punks who bore a passing resemblance to Jeff. One of the Nazis spit at the singer during the show. The singer didn't see who did it other than that it was a tall dude in a leather jacket with a shaved head (so like 20% of the crowd). But he somehow concluded that it must have been Jeff. He stopped the show, pointed to Jeff, and had him kicked out of the show. Notably, he was driving, and I was 80 miles from my home, so effectively, I got kicked out too. \n\nThankfully we were never in any actual danger, but as a result of that experience I can at least vaguely relate to this kids experience... You go to see a band you idealize, and instead are made a pariah for being in the wrong place at the wrong time.", "Oh god that just breaks my heart. I can’t even imagine the feelings: disappointment, humiliation, sadness. I’m so sorry!", "That ad is an absolutely terrible comparison because being a famous musician is inherently more widespread. His music is played on radio so you'll hear it in malls, your car or general day to day living as well of course as at parties, bars, clubs, festivals. He's dating a Kardashian so a lot of women will read about him in gossip mags. He's been in fortnight and did an entire concert through the game so gamers will have heard of him. He's even had a McDonald's meal. He IS a household name. So to never have heard of him, I'm sorry, is very much an indictment on how little you're out in the real world. \n\nThe inventor of the USB has no name recognition. Scott has permiated multiple different aspects of culture. He's pretty uniquely popular in the way most musicians aren't.", "I don't know, I am not a lawyer.", "Lmao what? Rodeo is considered as one of the greatest trap albums of all time by most hip hop fans.", "I don't buy the injection thing at all honestly. Who the fuck would go around injecting random people with opioids, people wanna keep their drugs to themselves. And if they did intend for harm, it's not easy to just randomly inject someone. IV is pretty much impossible to do like that, you could do IM but like, hitting the syringe in, pushing the plunger... I just cannot see it viably happening on anyone let alone multiple people.", "Ya, I’m saying I thought the valuation thing was fake. I’m pretty sure it was. Nobody ever claimed she has a billion in cash. Elon doesn’t even hold a billion in cash", "I’m just going off what the police have said. I have no idea how injecting drugs works.", "That's fair, I didn't know it came from a police statement, I thought they were just rumors. Although I don't trust the police that much either especially with opioids because they are known to use this to make up stuff and cause drug scares, like with cops ODing on fentanyl they found and stuff.", "I think he's talking about 2 super bowls ago where they did the spongebob stadium song then morphed it into sicko mode. It was trash tier", "Yeah, he’s a total POS", "My god they both end up in the ring butt naked and..oh God it's hilarious", "Ah right. I forgot I had blocked that from memory", "I don't blame you, one of the worst performances I saw", "You stupid ? Theres a documentary on his live performance culture.\n\nYou must be really ignorant if you don’t believe me. Yes people who go to his shows know the mosh pits are incredibly dangerous and his antics cause the crowd to go out of control.\n\n“Look Mom I Can Fly” was released in 2019 with his Astroworld Tour, and its a documentary on Netflix highlighting how fucking wild his live shows are. Mind you they are so wild Netflix made a fucking documentary on it.\n\nPeople go there knowing. I know a bunch of people who went to his tour when he came to town and they all knew they wanted to go because it would be “the wildest show they had ever been to” and they all told me it was. To this day.\n\nSo why don’t you educate yourself a little ? This has been going on so long that 2 years ago a documentary came out showcasing this shit. \n\nAgain many of you are hearing about these antics for a long time, but this shits been going on since 2015-2016. Its a culture that his fans buy into. Idk why you feel the need to argue with me, its not like two sides of the argument, i just actually know what Im saying and you’re just going off of assumptions you believe. You literally would never go to a Travis Scott show so how would you know ? \n\nAll this dangerous shit he pulls, people love.", "Leavin this here\nhttps://www.change.org/p/aeg-remove-travis-scott-as-a-goldenvoice-performer?recruiter=1232836105&recruited_by_id=7df197a0-4002-11ec-a1d1-e54fd0512bb1&pt=AVBldGl0aW9uAMRn3QEAAAAAYYgsMOK4SKg2NjQ2M2JlMA%3D%3D", "No?", "So there you go. If we're not using the norm to judge metal concerts (which we shouldn't), there's no point in comparing them to rap concerts because of this horrible Travis Scott incident", "Bruh, I was just pointing out why people don’t tend to get hurt in metal mosh pits. I’m not comparing anything. Not sure why you’re looking for an argument but you can find it elsewhere.", "Fair enough. I think everything he has put out since that album has been shit.", "https://youtu.be/s9znUEeyUPg\n\nQuite a different approach to fan safety", "Man this shit is lame" ]	770	videos	Travis Scott pauses show after his shoe is stolen whilst crowd surfing. Then encourages crowd to injure the 17 year old who took it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qp95wg/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qp95wg/deleted_by_user/	[ "Oh, look! It’s a video of well behaved patrons at a music concert. I have seen many of those videos today.", "It's not even be a day and the exact same videos are being reposted aswell.", "Never let a tragedy stop you from farming meaningless internet points" ]	3	videos	[deleted by user]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P66DFHYGgNw	/r/videos/comments/qp99yv/atlanta_season_3_teaser/	[ "This shows art direction, I feel, has changed so much from season one. I mean that could be a studio A24 thriller movie trailer not a comedy show about a rap career. Im here for it", "Don't understand why they're in Europe at all but I'm intrigued to find out.", "Musicians tour" ]	3	videos	Atlanta \| Season 3 Teaser
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDjBw8d65lI	/r/videos/comments/qp9f29/travis_scott_compilation_of_him_berating_fans_and/	[ "Oh, look! It’s a video of badly behaved patrons at a music concert. I have seen many of those videos today.", "“The artist” and his auto tune.", "Do people die at metal concerts in mosh pits? Just wondering.", "It’s extremely rare. In the metal scene there’s a common rule that if someone goes down in the pit you pick them up.", "> All these people dying is exactly what he has been asking for all these years\n\nDamn dude, that's extremely rough to state. Mosh pits are pretty common at rap concerts. Poor crowd control are also quite common. \n\nHe's an asshole to his surrounding and has no respect for his fans, but did he want to create an environment where people die? That's such an overdramatization of the situation.", ">That's such an overdramatization of the situation.\n\nWouldn't be Reddit without it.", "8 people died at an Eddie Vedder concert in the Netherlands. Not justifying actions but it happens.", "The Metal moshpits that I have been in have had the nicest people. If you happen to fall, you will probably have 5 people right there picking you straight back up and making sure you are OK.", "It looks like he's just trying to hype up to crowd. His style is confrontational but it's the same idea as any other performer trying to get the audience engaged.\n\nThat said, it's not the kind of thing I would like to experience at a show.", "Ya this all looks like his shtick to get people excited. Rude or disrespectful......sure, but that is what his fans come for I guess...?", "The only rational discussion there was about this incident was on Saturday. After that it's just been snowballing and people piling on and saying outrageous shit. So many people commenting about the music and trying to look cool by not knowing who Travis Scott is or this or that. An investigation should be done and people held responsible who failed to do their jobs at the event.", "People are so hypocrites for sure.", "Do we know they informed him about the situation at any point during the show? I think we should keep to facts and respect the fact that people died there. No need to go for stupid tabloid takes and make all these stupid karma farming posts. Not saying you were karma farming, but fuck some of these posts.", "You went full moron with your agenda here. The facts around astroworld dont need nonsense to be bad.", "Lol what I said about astroworld has nothing with travis being a bit of an asshole. You wanting to act like being an asshole means travis wanted people to die is literally brainless. You might be too stupid to use the internet. You can have 0 intent to do harm and still harm people, and still need to be held accountable.", "I mean, there was an ambulance trying to get through the crowd... what the hell do they think was going on...", "There’s an agenda here, especially on this sub. I’ve seen videos posted of other artists “saving” fans by stopping concerts or jumping in the crowd to get them themselves.\n\nWhat isn’t being stated is there were 50k+ people at his concert. Also, he’s standing on stage with lights in his face, no way he’d be able to fans several hundred feet back in the dark.\n\nYou can’t compare that to someone performing in a club with 150 people in it with lights on the fans. \n\nThere’s a bias being pushed here and it’s really easy to see. I’m not defending the guy, any loss of life that’s preventable is a tragedy, but some of y’all need to calm down posting these videos and passing judgement. But it’s the internet and everyone is an expert on everything.", "Most of us all don’t spend all day on Reddit pretending to be experts on something we have little knowledge of. Most of us.", "his music is really bad too so not surprised he's acting like a bitch, i mean metal concerts doesn't act like dumb asses, 9/10 the musicians will stop the show to protect a fan or kick an assaulter out of the venue and that's metal which is supposed to be hardcore, travis? he's nothing more but a peasant, a wannabe that fails at everything he tries, his auto tune is better than him", "I think you mean 9 people died at a Pearl Jam concert in Denmark, Roskilde 2000.", "Dropping super generic rap I’ve been listening to since Travis was in elementary school. The weirdest thing about this entire event is learning that Travis earnestly believes he’s a groundbreaking artist.\n\nI like his music but bruh lmao", "Well said.\n\nStop simping for rich narcissists ya’ll. Imagine earnestly feeling the need to white knight in this context 😂", "I can count on my tentacles how many times I have been to concert and been told to shout \"fuck you\" or anything else to the rest of the audience.", "His persona is kind of cringe considering his fanbase and what a huge corporate shill he is (hey ragers, get fucking lit you pussies! Also rage your way over to your mom’s credit cards to order your rager Fortnite skins and rager McDonald’s fries! It’s lit!)\n\nBut most of this video is innocuous hype up the crowd routine bullshit that is being used in a dumb post-hoc way because he’s public enemy number one right now and people are very emotional towards the situation.", "That video is zero proof that Travis was informed how bad the situation was. I'm not trying to defend the guy, but Reddit doesn't really have a good track record for this kind of shit. Professionals should be the ones to do the investigation and prosecute the people responsible which is probably happening right now. There are probably multiple people responsible for this tragedy.", "Reddit’s reaction to this is the most conservative shit ever.", "And someone thought it was good idea to bring their 10 year old to this idiots event....", "I had not heard of this guys music until those poor people died.\n\nI will carry on ignoring him.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nPeace", "I just don't understand why say stupid shit like this was \"a part of his plan\" and shit? To me that is in poor taste but you do you", "Well when you have a history of that behavior and the attitude to match i would say yes. He wanted this and thats not being fucking dramatic.", "He even talks with auto tune.", "Calling Pearl Jam metal is a new one one.", "He wasn’t informed that anyone died. Security was but they never passed the message on to him.", "he's american, stupidity is in his dna", "You keep pushing this, but i dont think there’s any proof Travis was told people were dying while he was performing.\n\nThere’s one video of him looking at the unconcious person being lifted out the crowd, but that isnt an uncommon site at a festival or show. And one unconcious person who is already getting helped and lifted out isnt enough to stop a show. He cant tell from stage, with 50K plus people screaming and music blasting in his ear, the ins and outs of whats going on in the crowd like we can see in multiple videos after the fact.", "It’s bloody awful. And he’s mega fucked himself over. Can’t delete all that evidence now.", "So you’re not going to respond to the fact that youre saying Travis was informed of the people dying during the show, when thats not true at all?\n\nNot defending the fact that the festival was a terribly managed shit show, but a lot more of that falls on Live Nation then Travis Scott.", "Cancel him. Forever", "Bruh no ones simping for travis, im just saying to state facts and not misinformation. That first video you linked is a girl screaming at the camera person. Who has no power to stop a show. And there’s 0% the crowd noise sounds like anything other than gibberish to the performer at a festival that big.\n\nSecond link also doesnt say anything about anyone actually coming up to him and informing him about the deaths. \n\nThere’s so much to actually be pissed about regarding Travis & this festival, i dont see why you feel the need to spread lies/create a seperate unconfirmed narrative.\n\nEdit: this is a failure of the organizers(Live Nation) who could have cut the sound & put a message on the board that the festival was over. Ive seen it happen before for weather issues at festivals.", "In watching the other videos people have posted about acts stopping their shows, it’s become clear there are really 2 main issues here- 1) it’s apparent that he was never properly trained or informed (or was and doesn’t care), about how to spot and stop a mass crush event. Other acts were able to identify “the wave” of the crowd and stop it accordingly. 2) his reaction to the event. If he had stopped the performance, even for 10 minutes, to try to tap things down and let medical do their jobs, even if people had died , at least you could say he tried. \n\nIn watching the video someone posted of Pearl Jam show where 9 people died, they tried to stop it and the band was clearly upset at what was going on , I don’t know if they stopped the whole show or what happened, but at least they tried\n\nEdit to add video link: https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/qp91gh/pearl_jam_vocalist_eddie_vedder_begs_the_crowd_to/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf", "Buddy, do you think that’s Travis Scott in that first video? The guy holding the camera pointing at the big stage on the left?", "It's like driving drunk. Do you plan to kill someone? Probably not. Are you basically 'meh, might happen, tough luck for those suckers'. Probably yes. So I'd say his behavior is very seriously negligent and he should be tried accordingly.\n\nAnd of he kept driving after being informed he just killed someone (not sure if that's what happened) then you are probably going into the direction negligent homicide.", "Walk me through your thought process here. So you see the girl yelling at the cameraman about 100 rows away from the stage and the cameraman clearly not listening to her pleas. How did you arrive at the conclusion that 1. Travis and the camera man were on the same stage and 2. That Travis would have known about the girl’s pleas with the cameraman clearly refusing to relay the information to him?\n\nBecause to me it seems like you didn’t actually pay attention to the video and thought the cameraman was Travis.", "The audiotune in the first 2 second of this clip convinced me I'm better off ignoring this artist.", "Lol, why the hell do you seem so angry? I'm just trying to get facts, but you seem like you're one step from agreeing with people about this being a plan of a satanic cult.", "Founded by Travis. Run by Live Nation. Travis wasnt running the logistics behind this festival and youre delusional to think otherwise. A single cameraman isnt gonna stop doing his job because a couple people(who he probably just thought were on drugs/drunk) run up to him. He probabky wasnt focused on what they were saying cause he was just trying to do his job and to him they were just fans running up on the stage.\n\nI think youre the one who wants to desperatley be right buddy.", "the hero worship for this dipshit in the TY comments is unreal.", "I was at a Deadmau5 show years ago that had been significantly oversold (which I didn't know at the time). His set was very laid back and lacked energy so that, combined with the massive amount of people, made me decide to leave early. The day after, he was quoted somewhere saying that he was concerned for everyone's safety so he had to keep the energy level low.", "Rodeo is one of the best and most influential rap albums of the past decade, I encourage you to check it out. One can enjoy the art without supporting the artist personally imo, similar to the Ariel Pink situation last year, XXXTENTACION before that, and even Michael Jackson\n\nI hope he faces serious repercussions for his actions that caused people to literally die, and I'd be totally cool if he never makes music again (his recent stuff is just meh anyway imo), but the actions of today should not retroactively disqualify previous art from being great", "So sick of this take jfc", "Has he? I'll be happy if it actually happens. But given some past examples, I have my doubts.", ">He wasn’t informed that anyone died.\n\nI like that you are able to say this despite not being fucking there and going off the same shitty videos everyone else has been seeing. \n\njudging by your replies in this thread, you seem like an idiot, but what do I know. Just tell us how you know for a fact he was never told.", "There's a video of a toddler on its parents shoulder, while in the pit, from this event....", "Yep, these won't bite him in the ass during the lawsuits.", "I love that you went from “He was directly told on stage and the proof is easily available if you bother to Google” to “You can’t possibly know for sure because all the videos are shitty” when presented with a direct contradiction to your proof. \n\nWell tbf it wasn’t so much a contradiction as it was me pointing out that you weren’t paying attention to the evidence you sent me yourself. Great job dude. This would be hilarious if 8 people didn’t lose their lives.", "Nah bro you’re on reddit, he has shit music until he dies and then the karma farm bots come out after that to capitalize . Dude is a certified idiot from the get go and now he looks horrible with the entire optics of this festival unveiling, \n\nhowever his music may not be for everyone, but no doubt he brought his own type of sound to hip hop (definitely had influences like Kanye)", "I think you're responding to the wrong person? \n\nnice long winded rant though.", "“Even Micheal Jackson”? Are you on the fence regarding child molestation?", "If only there had been some kind of loud speaker system linked to a microphone that someone in an visually advantageous position could have used to ask the crowd to move back, or clear a path for the medical staff.\n\n/s", "Oh yeah sorry about that, I didn’t realize you were a different person. \n\nAnyway I’m pretty sure the onus is on you guys to prove he was told. And you aren’t off to a good start if your top detectives are confusing random cameramen with Travis Scott.", "No, not sure how that's what that sentence came across as? My point there was that I don't excuse the personal actions of any of those artists, but I enjoy at least some of their work regardless", "Name calling? I don't know what messages you're reading but cool cool. You do you again.", "you made the claim that he wasn't told someone died\n\n>He wasn’t informed that anyone died.\n\nalso you\n\n>Anyway I’m pretty sure the onus is on you guys to prove he was told.\n\nThat isn't how it works, you made a claim and I am asking for your evidence - unless you were just talking out of your ass?", "I'd never heard of him either and wish I could go back to that time. Now I see dozens of posts about him each day.", "I don’t think this is the issue… he just wanted a lively crowd. Crowds with phones are significantly more dull than those without. I think the issue lies in the planning and organisation of the event… why the fuck was a 10 year old allowed in?? Also the logistics of crowd populations and all that", "You’re really gonna turn this awful situation into some weird mass murder conspiracy from Travis Scott?? Weird", "I’ll take the responsibility for that. I should not have made a definitive claim that he couldn’t have possibly been told when we clearly don’t have all the facts yet. Be fair though and look at the comment I was replying to which also made a definitive statement in the opposite direction.\n\nThe fact remains that OP confused a cameraman for Travis Scott and should probably find more reliable proof before making those kinds of claims and spreading misinformation.", "Just disgusting.", "Chris Brown.", "I actually have a really hard time separating the art from the artist.\n\nFortunately I don't have to that with this guy because his music is just as godawful as his personality..", "constantly asking fans to rage reminds me of the politician saying 'Please clap'. \nIf your music constantly does not get the reaction you want from the crowd then maybe you should be pissed at yourself and not the crowd", "Can't stand artists like this that want their fans to act a certain way. If I paid money to get into a festival, I'm gonna enjoy it how the fuck I want to. What a turd boi.", "TBH I’m only going off what’s been posted here, never heard of the guy before and don’t live on the US. However, his team are apparently mass deleting the videos of him encouraging this wall of crush. He was like 50ft in the air, there’s no way he didn’t see what was happening. \n\nI just watched some of the tik tok clips and they were utterly terrifying.", "There's nothing wrong with using autotune you fucking dinosaur", "As with anything, this started off as an actual issue, and now people are just grasping at straws. You guys ever been to a concert before? Yeah, people have mosh-pits, rage... etc, and usually people don't get hurt. He might be an ass to some fans, but aside from that, I don't see any big deal here.", "Are you inferring this is a rap issue? Cause that is super dumb. The Who performed a show in Cincy that resulted in 8 people dying. Poorly run events are dangerous regardless of genre.", "Ik Reddit is gonna hate this but I saw Travis a few years ago and his live show is probs the best I've seen, the energy is great.", "The biggest lesson in all of this. Can beat a woman near to death and can have a good career in public right after. Didn't hear a single famous person call him out, so all the famous folks can fuck off with Me Too shit whilst they let this kinda crap carry on.", "I can't imagine which Pearl jam song would constitute a mosh pit.", "Was is Joels own show?....watching him he seem very involved in all of his setups etc for tours. Wondering how hard it is even for him to control bookings at venues.", "No there isnt, but don't go thinking you are anything better than a bad singer using autotune. And don't believe with out producers and studio engineers you anything more than a label front man.", "Completely different circumstances. That was purely event organizers. Letting one headline band (nine inch nails) end their set as another headliner start (pearl jam) on the other end of an open field was a terrible idea. and pearl jam did everything they could including stopping playing as soon as they were aware something bad was happening. Ed was doing his best to direct the crowd to give room.", "Yeet!", "I concur, I am also in the UK.\n\nBecause of the uproar, I probably watched the same clips as you and he has plenty of form for this.\n\nI then thought of how much he is like Trump. Be rude, insulting and just horrible and people flock to them. Literally trampling over others to get closer to their idol.\n\nI dont think we have anything like them over here? Oasis come to mind.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nPeace", "Imagine paying money to be yelled at", "Dumb fuck.", "Lack of mothetfuckin talent you dumb fuck.", "Obviously loads of them. What are you on about", "No it wouldn't, what are you on about?", "Saying Travis should be held accountable is not the same as saying he intended for people to die. You are being an idiot.", "\"artist\" fixed :p", "Telling people to rage is like showing a talent and demanding \"HEY be impressed with me!!\"... when true artists inspire you to do it. Make the performance so good they can't help but become involved. Self entitlement is a bitch.", "Are you calling out the obvious autotune because you think people don't notice it? It's a stylistic choice. There's already reasons to hate this guy but don't try to discredit his artistry because of autotune. Educate yourself.", "That video of him up on the standing platform singing 'yeaaaah, yeaaaah, yeahhhh' as he watches a lifeless body carried out of the crowd is going to haunt him forever man. It is downright cinematic in how villainous he looks.\n\nThat video is the closing argument for all the lawsuits heading his way. Possibly criminal proceedings. I think it will sink him.", "Who is Travis Scott tho? Like seriously.", "So long as US celebrities aren't above the law he's definitely fucked. Ohh wait ..", "Man white peoples love Travis Scott", "Some of just seems like he's pumping the crowd up. Either way his music is awful.", "https://youtu.be/IqPr6bcTJhc So fucking funny.", "Well let's be clear here, Live Nation kills people.", "Lil Dicky called him out in a song before he was famous \"Not Brown but I make it pop then I beat that\" was the line. \n\nThen he got famous and did a fucking song with him that talks about Brown's \"Controversial Past\". \n\nFuck you, David Burd. Also, Season 2 of Dave sucks and I hope the show gets cancelled, I stopped watching halfway through episode 3.", "From what I can tell it’s unsafe moshing and ignoring security (rushing gates , blocking ambulances)", "Having being charged before I hope this one sticks for the families sake. Absolutely brutal what happened, they deserve answers and justice.", "This is what happens when society puts the wrong person up on a pedestal. Scott ain't anything special, but he could've been. Thank goodness for cancel culture, because this guy will be forgotten soon.", "I think the new Travis Scott meal at McDonalds is pancakes.", "Kasabian? saw them at a festival and the O2 and the guys down the front would still look out for people. Devastating for the families.", "not at Travis Scott concerts. The moshers are full of hateful piss and vinegar that Scott instills in his followers. He's just like Trump.", "yes please", "Jesus Christ what a whiney bitch. Paying tons of money and traveling to come see me isn't enough. You have to behave exactly how I want to or I will through a bitch fit on stage.", "Everyone over here who bought tickets to my show and are having a great time, fuck you! -Travis Scott", "Ragers is what Travis Scott fans call each other.", "Fueling the fire means adding to a problem, which can be done with or without intent.", "I'm not talking about a passing mention in their shit lyrics, that's lame as fuck first of all, and second it just makes them more famous because now they're part of a RAP BATTLE! COOL!\n\nI don't know who Little Dick is either, but fuck him too. Call people out in a boring way. Be truthful. Be brutal. Turn off the drum machine and the samples you stole from better music.", "I was simply pointing out that /u/Teateareddit saying \"they should be held accountable\" is not the same as him saying \"Travis intended for people to die\", so throwing those words back in his face doesn't actually make any sense here.", "Yeah, I like his music too, but I don’t know if I’ll keep listening to it. Maybe I’ll download a MP3 of Goosebumps and Dis Side to listen sometimes, but I don’t want to give this man money anymore…", "So you're....sicko mode?", "Your pretty much making the same argument that Little Dicky makes. I know you said fuck him but you guys seem to agree on the state of music right now.", "This guy, he’s a real jerk", "That's possible, I admit I have no idea and you may well be right -- however on this I stand firm. Eminem pulled this shit all throughout the 90s, making nobodys more famous by \"dunking on them\" in his lyrics. A DJ I know built an entire career out of his Moby / \"Nobody listens to techno\" line. Rap slams sound brutal, but are either designed to get more notoriety for the \"target\", or that happens incidentally. Don't sing about monsters. Fight them or ignore them so that other people can fight them. Do not make them part of a fun song.", "> I like his music \n\nAnd he will continue to believe he's a groundbreaking artist. Until his sales suffer, he'll continue to think he's an artist.", "This guy is the epitome of dog shit.\n\nThat's all I gotta say", "I sometimes forget how lame hip hop concerts are.\n\n\nFuckin’ autotune and a laptop? That’s some weak sauce.", "Dave is perhaps one of the most well written shows in the past couple years. Absolutely brilliant. It sucks his actions turned you off it but shit I can see why. I didn’t know about him doing the Chris brown song and shit, that really makes me second guess supporting him in anything he does. I appreciate the perspective, haven’t really heard anything bad about lil dicky before.", "All these videos essentially are going to allow the prosecution to point to a pattern of unlawful Behavior and he's going to get cleaned out.", "From videos I've watched and people I've seen in public wearing Astroworld merch, they never look like people who have spent a lot of time going to shows, moshing, and learning show etiquette through experience. And then TS and his tired-ass trap attitude stirs up these naïve kids to do stupid shit.", "Because every other genre of music isn’t filled to the brim with shitbags right?", "Travis Scott's music is all made by the guy that mixes it. He moans into a mic and that guy makes music out of it. It's all there in the Netflix doc. Going to this guy in concert is like admitting music means nothing to you.", "How stupid this baffoon that they leave the auto tune on when he is babbling... LOL And people pay money for this level of garbage. LOL", "Just sing your song, fool", ">fuelling the fire.\n\nOur disagreement is on what this phrase means, so it doesn't make any sense to say \"hence the term fuelling the fire\".\n\nIf I accidentally knock a can of gas into a fire, that's going to fuel the fire regardless of my intent. Fuelling the fire absolutely has no bearing on the intent.", "What am I confused about?", "~~Travis Scott compilation of him berating fans and ordering them to rage at multiple concerts over the years~~\n\nEvidence", "That’s so fucking dumb. How do people think lame ass pop music is so hardcore?", "Omg this! I went to a lot of local punk shows as a teen and some bands would just sit there and berate people for not moshing.. but we would if we liked your music or you put on a damn good performance. The audience isn't the problem, you are.", " I was a big Travis Scott fan before he started to fall off (2016-2019) and saw him live at a music festival. Even back then I always cringed when Travis Scott fans online called each other ragers", "I doubt it will haunt him at all, let alone forever.", "It's an aesthetic thing. People have been using autotune for two decades now, get the fuck over it lmao.\n\nAnd I doubt most of them would say they're more talented than even a middle-of-the-road jazz musician, but if talent and mechanical skill were the definitive metrics of what makes music good and appealing, we wouldn't even be having this conversation.", "Need more good, wholesome role models, like Jimmy Page, John Lennon, Rick James, and Jerry Lee Lewis.", "He’s an incredibly popular musical artist, not that I’m a big fan of his.", "This is an incredible amount of media attention he is getting. The world hates him now, but the world's attention span is remarkably short.", "I've seen this happen many times, and been picked up myself once or twice. When someone goes down, right away a dozen hands will be reaching out to pick them up. The metal moshpit has a mean exterior but it's all love and it's very rare for something really bad to happen.", "I just listened to half a song for the first time ever. That’s some weak-ass music.", "The Kardashians think they are worthy or praise for doing nothing and get paid ridiculous amounts of money for it. Kanye thinks he's a literal god for playing music that people with room temperature IQs think is brilliant. Just what happens to people in that circle.", "Teenagers.", "Was about to say this haha", "How do you do anything more than bob your head to that weak-ass music? No idea how a crowd could get so pumped up by a Casio keyboard and auto tune.", "8 people died and your first reaction is how to collect some dumbass reddit karma", "lol it’s so funny listening to autotune correct his tone and pitch while calling his fans pussies", "How the fuck is this dude's main gripe that people are just watching his performance instead of beating the shit out of each other? Fuck this dude.", "He’s clearly a violent individual.", "Earth didn't turn you off Dicky forever? It's such a shit song, that coupled with his defense of Chris Brown, should make him banned for life from most people with taste.", "I think the only thing Oasis ever killed, was their own career.", "Let's just rename them raging douche-canoes.", "Hopefully whoever was that dumb won't make more offspring.", "Anyone else expecting him to belt out 'do you believe in life after love'", "Mom was probably 24", "Right, I've never heard of this guy but today I'm seeing all these posts of him being a fucking asshole. Fuck this guy. Fuck celebrity worship and fuck the dumb ass brainwashed people who think he is so great.", "Imagine that, a self-centered solo rapper who doesn't give a shit about other people. What has the world come to?", "Whilst on the back of a giant papier-mâché eagle.\n\nI swear this guy is living the Spinal Tap dream only whilst being less charming and self aware.", "Thats not how things work sadly.. he will probably get more concerts and fans :-( if he did a Chapell though there would have been massive protests. I haven't seen any travis scott protests yet.", "And he hangs with the Kardashian-Jenner family. Lovely.", "Is this supposed to be a brag? You don’t know one of the biggest artists in the world right now? He had his own burger at McDonalds, he had an event in Fortnite, he is huge. This just comes off as you being a complete out of touch loser haha", "\"i'm a artist\" - T. Scott", "Eh. Music is made lots of different ways. I try not to shit on that just because it’s different or weird to me or seems low effort to you.", "What's the doc?", "I don't think the artist is legally responsible for making sure security is working at a concert. If they can't show evidence in that he tried to make things worse then he will probably be free of charges. His previous actions does not show that he is guilty. Im not defending the dude because clearly he is worse than an asshole. Im just saying what i THINK will happen in this case. The organizers are probably the only ones legally responsible for the security at the event. If the artist however purposely makes things worse and that could be proven then perhaps could lead to something. I would be happy because from all the clips i have seen he did not do anything to help and he saw what happened.", "Dudes voice so shit he needs autotune when he talkin", "1. Happy Cake Day\n2. I hate that you're probably correct.", "Kanye at least has his untreated bipolar disorder to blame. For what little that's worth, considering he could get top of the line psychiatric help. \n\nThe rest are just somewhere between narcissists and sociopaths.", "Vedder almost killed himself when he climbed up on the light post at Pinkpop. That was in the Netherlands.", "Yeah, I chose all of my favorite celebrities based on if they have a burger at McDonalds./s\n\nJust because you base your life around McDonalds and fortnite ads does not mean everyone else is gonna.", "I agree. Honestly I like some of his stuff. But I know that Scott ain't the talent.", "Ok so now we're going too far with this. Most of this is just hyping up the crowd run of the mill shit. This is where the message gets lost in these situations. When bs like this gets mixed in with the truth, naysayers will use it as a reason that the \"woke mob\" makes up lies to win the argument. \n\nDon't feed the trolls and truth deniers, theres more then enough evidence to show Travis failed that whole crowd with how he handled this situation.", "Look Mom I Can Fly on Netflix. Not a terrible doc honestly, it just made Scott seem like such a minor part in his own music whenever they showed them actually recording.", "What an \"artist\". Using auto tune on EVERYTHING does not make you an artist. It's called get good at your craft bro.", "> music that people with room temperature IQs think is brilliant\n\nTell me you don't listen to Kanye without telling me you don't listen to Kanye", "Honestly Travis Scott is just a fucking toxic dude.\n\nThis whole thing has been a great example of what happens when the wrong people get elevated in music.", "I know auto-tune is an accepted thing in hip hop, but man, Scott takes it to the next level. Can't fucking talk without it.", "Almost like I’m using that as an example that Travis Scott is everywhere, he is a huge artist. \n\nHere are some more examples: he is the 20th most streamed artist of all time on Spotify and he played at the half time at the Super Bowl in 2019. Again, you’d have to be a loser to not know who he was. It doesn’t make you cool to not know him", "Kanye actually is a groundbreaking artist. He's maybe on the downslope, and he's got personal and mental problems, but he's a part of the hip hop story.\n\nTravis Scott isn't even a footnote.", "I never would have called his shit pop.", "Others have said he's been in collabs with Mcdonalds and Fortnite... Aren't 10 year olds his target demographic in that case?", "First thing I asked myself...how does he expect to be taken seriously with the autotune?", "you do understand that not everyone knows every artist right?\n\nNot everyone watches the fucking super bowl, just because he is the most streamed does not mean that some how his name was imbedded into every persons mind. Again, not everyone uses Spotify, nor gives a shit who is the most streamed.\n\n> you’d have to be a loser to not know who he was.\n\nWhat are you 12? Who give two flying fucks who someone knows as a celebrity.\n\nDo you only watch ads?", "Rage? Hahahaha go see slipknot or something!", "People responding with \"oh there's so much etiquette at metal shows!! everyone is helpful and friendly!!\" are idiots who probably don't go to metal shows and are just repeating something they read on reddit.\n\n\nFor every metal or punk show where a fat dude picks up a person who has fallen, there are an equal number of greasy shows full of morons. So much so that there's an actual name for these people- \"crowdkillers\". \n\nFrankly if you've never come home from a show with injuries, you don't go to enough shows to be able to determine what the crowds are like.\n\n\nThe problem here is people conflating two issues. The two issues are 1) inherently dangerous crowds and 2) a piece of shit on stage encouraging this.\n\nThe two aren't the same issue. The fact that not a lot of people die at metal shows isn't because the crowd is any more or less safe. People saying \"Well at a Slipknot (baby music) show I went to I saw a fat guy pick up a kid that fell over\" is completely irrelevant. \n\nThe issue is the piece of shit on stage encouraging the crowd and doing nothing about it. If that were whatever the shitty singer from Slipknot is up there telling people to rush the gates, go crazy and berating the security and paramedics, the exact same outcome would happen.", "Sorry you’re so mad that I called you an out of touch loser but it’s the truth.", "Bitch, I graduated highschool in 2004. College Dropout and Late Registration were some of the albums of my youth. The dude has been a clown for a LLLLOOONNNGGG time. My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy was the last thing I gave a fuck about and that was over a decade ago. Sorry to burst your \"Kanye is a genius\" bubble, but I guess that's what having a room-temperature IQ and a shitty-yet-pretentious taste in music will get you.", "Sorry I'm out of the loop; what happened with lawsuits and such?", "The risk for public safety is well known for these types of events . I expect lawsuits to be quite punitive for him for not managing the risk for the ones who perished and for the injured.", "Interesting you bring up MBDTF, even as an old miserable hater you recognize the brilliance of that album. 808s and Heartbreak was also brilliance, literally a genre-shifting album.\n\nKinda sucks that you get so wrapped up in Kanye's antics outside of his music and somehow let it affect your opinion about Kanye's artistry.\n\nSay whatever you want about Kanye's personality, clown, egomaniac. One thing you can't knock him for is his once-in-a-generation talent.\n\nSorry to burst your bubble, Kanye's an artist's artist. No amount of hate will change that 🤷", "This shit has killed my entire weekend on Reddit. Sad.", "Doesnt make you a loser lol. Wtf is that shit. Being aware of new celebrities is the last priority when life gets real for you.\n\nThe fuck makes him worth our time? He's not livin any kind of truth.", "It’s awful to the billions of streams? He’s literally an icon for music at the moment. Don’t kid yourself.", "I’m not trying to be a dick, but it might be best to just google Travis Scott right now, there’s a whole lot to explain", "Lol, if giving a shit about Travis Scott is what makes someone cool, I am just fine being a loser.", "Cancel this POS", "Get him outta here, I hate phones", "Sounds like fucking Drake to me haha, I think most rap is shite though.", "So MuCh TaleNt", "Yup. To be fair though - metal is kind of a niche genre and probably won’t have a crowd like Travis Scott had. Usually you can remove yourself from the pit/crowd when you want. I have been to one hardcore/metal show where I was legit stuck in the pit", "So glad I don't know who he is", "Sadly, he'll be fine.", "Don’t support that asshole!", "[here you go buddy](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/first-lawsuits-filed-travis-scott-astroworld-organizers-deadly-festiva-rcna4805)\n\nFirst of many I'm sure.", "If you read the text you can clearly see that I don't. I just speculate in what I think will happen.", "That autotune is fucking horrible. And the show seems boring. How do so many people like this guy?", "Woah! That's ridiculous. 300 people injured? Alrighty. Thank you, now I'm informed. God that sucks", "Yup. I'm a big guy and usually get positioned at the edge of the pit by the way the crowd shifts. Not the biggest fan of being in the pit, personally. But I once had my glasses knocked off by someone getting launched at my edge of the pit. Immediately like 4 people in the pit noticed and every on that side stopped for about 20 seconds until they found them unbroken. Great folks in there. Also got disposable contacts for future concerts lol", "Been going to metal shows for a long while now. Only ever saw one crowdkiller at the venues around me. Dude was being an absolute dick during the first band, throwing punches during the second. After the first song of the second band security came into the pit. Two big dudes grabbed him one on each shoulder and just ejected him out the side door. Was great to see him arguing outside after lol", "Earth - didn’t turn me off dicky forever no lol. \n\nDefending Chris Brown - unforgivable. Lost a fan. \n\nTastebuds - intact. Just ate some poutine, was delicious.", "Man... some dude mumbling auto-tuned gibberish over a mediocre beat that sounds like it was made in a pirated version of Frooty Loops by my 14 year old nephew... \n\nHard pass.", "Dude did you just wake up from a ten year long coma this take is fucking prehistoric.", "You could def be right about that.", "There’s clearly a chain of events that had to go wrong for people to die the way they did, and Travis is definitely a big part of that, both as his role in event organization and as the performer on stage. But it’s not at all uncommon for people to pass out from dehydration or drugs at events like this. That was probably his #1 assumption, and he did stop at times when he saw someone passed out. With how sparse security and medical teams seemed, I think the event was probably doomed from the start, and Travis is the easiest target to point to.", "Piece of shit has such a shitty voice that even his talking has to be autotuned.", "Once the sinkholes of people started the show should have been stopped at least temporarily. Period.", "100%", "I get that he's tryna hype the crowd up but talking shit to the VIP section for not going as hard as GA is some weird shit. People pay the extra bucks for all sorts of different reasons.", "This video is 8 fucking minutes and 28 seconds long. I don’t think you could even make a video of another shit bag with half that time. Go fuck yourself Travis, you killed people and I hope you hurt for it.", "When I was was you was in a few. Never rough stuff like fights. With that said, I always remember if someone went down they got picked up. Just wondering if this has changed. Guess not. \nThis kind of behave is creating bad name for mosh pits. “Ragers” gtfo", "Looked like an awful lot of people decided going to get a burger was a better idea than listening to that shit.", "Not at all. I’ve just never seen mosh pits elsewhere. Calm your farm.", "I don't even know who this failure is. I guess any piece of shit can be polished up shiny these days.", "This is just typical crowd roast", "He's feeling the outrage now. And probably not liking it. Oh the irony.", "Very Important Person my ass lol\n\nImagine paying a lot of $$$ to go see this show and you get shit on xD \n\nWhat a raging pos.\n\nThe internet will shit on you for free, Trav, hope you're not afraid.", "Some people like being berated. Watch Bikram on Netflix", "WHY IS IT FAMOUS?", "Mike? You?", "> the energy is great.\n\nTill it kills someone", "They are his fans. He's doing exactly what they wanted to see. They paid to see it.", "Was your answer, \"Oh yeah he's worth $60 million, he doesn't give a fuck about what I think a serious musician is.\" ???", "$60 million or $6, it sounds ridiculous. Sound engineer must have been in the pisser...", "It may seem like innocuous hype, but connect the dots on this one. He’s been fostering this aggressive rage in his fan base for years. Now his show has the first mass casualties at an American concert in decades. \n\nAlso, I was up close at one of his shows for a festival and I can tell you, it was super unsafe and I assure you, him shouting, “Rage” and telling people to go crazy, rush security etc. 100% had an effect on the crowd." ]	237	videos	Travis Scott compilation of him berating fans and ordering them to rage at multiple concerts over the years
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qp9z8r/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qp9z8r/deleted_by_user/	[ "cries in oppressed billionares.", "This is a shame. Her name is Claire or GRIMES.", "Ask a stupid question. You get a stupid answer.", "Bla bla bla some dude talking about some rich guy showing a screenshot of twatter and playing a YouTube video....stupid" ]	4	videos	[deleted by user]
https://youtu.be/q3yUYEkNUQU	/r/videos/comments/qpai7i/rick_astley_halts_a_song_because_an_audience/	[ "Oh, look! A crowd at a music concert! Thank you for sharing.", "This is how a pro handles it.", "That's how it was back in 1987!", "Well he explains very well in that one song he intends never to run around and hurt you. So it makes sense.", "Son of a bitch", "(colourised)", "God damn it, I knew it.", "He just didn't want to let them down.", "Pray tell, which song is this. Might ye have a link to the same?", "Are we looking at the same concert?. because that is not in 1987. In 1987 he was 21.", "Bastard", "Looks like it's around 2010 or so, looking at the thumbnail. Marking it 1987 also gives the rickroll away before watching it.", "Of course, [here you go.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6120QOlsfU)", "[This is better quality.](https://i.imgur.com/R390EId_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)", "Almost in 4K! Wow.", "That crowd barrier is so far away from the stage", "It took me right to the end of the song to relies what's happening to me.. damn", "lol, been a long time since I've actually been rick rolled. This was great. Fucking flicking through the song trying to catch the moment. LMAO", "I've played the clip twice, because I though I missed it the first time. :D\n\nLove the song though, ty very much.", "Jokes aside, I like how he transforms the song when he does it live vs the recording. So much more depth to it.", "Jokes on you, I thoroughly enjoyed the entire thing!", "Saw it, I ain't even mad.", "Clever girl.", "\"You can't just slap any random year on an event and just pretend it's accurate.\" - Me, 1844", "I never knew they had iPhones in 1987!", "I realized what was happening here about 15 seconds in but opted to watch the whole thing anyway because let's face it, I'd already been got.", "I fucking knew it and stuck in. This is amazing.", "Jokes on you, I scrubbed through the video with the arrow key rather than watch the whole thing!", "Because he will never give you up and he will never let you down", "He never gonna to give you up!!\n\nNew kind of rickroll. Take my free reward! Damnit", "We're seeing a lot of posts about concerts being stopped when there's a crowd surge or people getting hurt. It's pretty clear Travis Scott encourages this shit and gets his rocks off seeing people get hurt.", "slow-clap.gif", ">\"You can't just slap any random year on an event and just pretend it's accurate.\" - Me, 1844\n\n\"All you can trust is me... and Jesus\" - Jesus, 41 BC", "you god damned bastard.\n\nAt my most vulnerable", "So stoned I watched the whole damn video, what the shit man", "Brilliant...", "I am not even mad!", "I'm looking at the title ;-)", "Hm.\n\nWell fuck you and the rick you rolled in on.", "I am so relieved this is an actual Rick Roll than a concert being stopped video by Karma farms. Now we know Rick Rolls work in special ways...", "I was totally caught off guard, thinking for the first minute about being rick rolled in the past and how that felt, and how wouldn't it be funny if I was being Rick Rolled right now? Then, midway through, it hit me like a ton of bricks. Bravo", "Lots of cell phones for '87.", "I started watching- then read the comments to make sure it was a rickroll then went watched the entire thing because it made happy. Great energy.", "Worth the Rick Roll for THAT BASS MAAAAAAAAANNNN!", "Poor girl, dont look much older than 16 or 17. \n\nGlad they got her out.", "Great quality for 1987 am I right??", "Finished the vid thinking I spaced out and missed it, and then the slow realization crept in. Well done.", "You fuckin fucker...", "The bastard got me... I kept skipping around thinking I missed it...", "Of Course I watched the whole thing before I realized what just happened to me.", "flicking through the song? i watched the whole fucking video and didnt regret a second. I wasnt until he walked off stage i knew i got rolled but didnt care. Everyone looked like they wre having such a good time that i couldnt help but smile the whole way through.", "I skipped around the whole video TWICE before I read the comments lmao fucking a", "Expert-level rolling.", "I was more triggered by the date....", "Well played sir.", "This is the reddit that I know and love. We need more of this back.", "Fucking legend this man", "When it started I thought it was a random concert with rick roll on top and then it was clear he was actually singing so I thought it might possibly be real, still great.", ":'(", "Bruh it took me 3min to realize they didn’t have smartphones in 1987….", "Is it me, or is his voice better now?", "I knew the moment I clicked that play button what I was getting into, still couldn't bring myself to stop. Such a banger!", "Dammit! I should have realized when it didn't look like the 80s. Shame on me.", "Only upvoting for relies", "Finally! I knew the day would come when I would go the the comments BEFORE getting rolled. I can die happy y’all.", "OH MY GOD YOPU FUKING ASSHOLEFUCK", "Well done.", "You mother effer you..!!!", "man...\n\nfuck you", "Lol mother fucker. I watched about 1:30 in until i realized what was happening", "you fucking asshole:) well played", "[ Jump to 01:30 @ Rick Astley - Never Gonna Give You Up [LIVE]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3yUYEkNUQU&t=0h1m30s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: panos1977, Video Popularity: 98.05%, Video Length: [04:25])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@01:25](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3yUYEkNUQU&t=0h1m25s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^\| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)", "My exact words", "This mother fucker.", "Took me until 1:41 to realize. Anyone do better?", "You. Little. Bastard.", "double oof if true", "LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I legit was clicking through the video trying to find the time when he stopped until i realized...", "Oh truly for rick rolled", "Actually, I was waiting for the song to finish and write in the comments that this is definitely not the 80s, but then all of a sudden it occurred to me!! You are the devil!!", "Same friend. Same. \n\nYou only realize it once it is done.", "I know you're joking but if it was actually shot on film, it would have been even higher quality.", "[ Jump to 01:41 @ Rick Astley - Never Gonna Give You Up [LIVE]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3yUYEkNUQU&t=0h1m41s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: panos1977, Video Popularity: 98.05%, Video Length: [04:25])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@01:36](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3yUYEkNUQU&t=0h1m36s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^\| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)", "Nicely done. \n\nJokes aside, that was the most banging version of the song I've ever heard. That bass player was killing it!", "I don’t need confirmation because he has told us time and time again.", "Magnificent bastard", "I'm a moron. Took me waayyy to long to figure it out. Well done sir and thanks.", "Relevant", "Yeah, right at the beginning I thought, \"1987? There are cell phones in the shots, the quality is great.\" That, uh, should have been my first clue.", "He’s never gonna let us down", "fuckin got me good", "Did I just get.... Did you...\n\nIs this a... now? In this social climate after what just happened?!?\n\nYou marvelous son of a bitch! I watched the whole thing. And I loved it, so gg.", "I did not even realize what fucking happened to me until it was far far to late", ">at. Fucking flicking through the song trying to catch the moment. LMAO\n\ntrue lol", "same XD", "Hahahaha", "At 3:30 I started realizing what was going on. Thanks <3", "\\\\Slow Clap\\\\", "And realize the real eyes", "[ Jump to 03:30 @ Rick Astley - Never Gonna Give You Up [LIVE]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3yUYEkNUQU&t=0h3m30s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: panos1977, Video Popularity: 98.05%, Video Length: [04:25])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@03:25](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3yUYEkNUQU&t=0h3m25s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^\| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)", "Even after all this time, I've still been had.", "Lmao so travis pretty much did the same thing but you have a wave of people angry at him for some reason", "Well done.", "V festival in Chelmsford, UK, 2016, in case anyone was wondering. Many have pointed out the presence of smartphones in the audience as how they realized the video wasn’t from 1987; for me it was the plastic bottles of soda.", "God damn it!", "This is gold.", "I can’t believe you’ve done this.", "I know exactly what you are doing, and I'm choosing to watch it anyway. Also, the bass player in this has some serious chops.", "Should have seen this coming from a mile away, but I did not. Dumbass me, spends 2 minutes click'n through the entire video twice before I took a moment to listen to the song. Hahah well played, and thanks for the laugh.", "That man is so freaking hot. Sorry, had to say it.", "God damn it, watched the first minute then realised how bamboozled i just got.", "HOW THE FUCK DID I FALL FOR THAT?", "There's also 34 years between them, so I'd say his voice changed.", "\"Depth\" wasn't meant as pitch.\n\nThe overall sound of this specific recording is deeper, richer, more intricate yet nuanced.", "Gooood damnit..\nI was skipping for 2 minutes, back and forth.. son of a...", "Bruhh.", "So thats a new age rick roll? Wow well played", "I found myself thinking about how fortunate Rick rolling has been for his career. What a gem!", "you asshole", "Love the song though, ty very much.", "Honestly, bravo. Or brava or whatever. Brav-they", "It's not like this most of the time. I've been a stagehand at hundreds of shows and a couple dozen big festivals. It's never like this. But this setup will be the norm next season.", "As have I, which is why I commented on it. The most I've ever seen is 4 metres of clear space, which is enough to drive an ambulance through, and realistically, all that is needed.", "Slow clap.", "Yeah yeah, rick rolled etc but there is a huge uptick of videos being posted with both the positive and negative performer show-stopping. Good or bad, performers should just keep playing through minor stuff and ONLY stop and say something if their spotlight helps the responders or keeps things safe. \nIn event security, we kind of get annoyed when a performer stops a show for someone who fainted or 'took a turn'. We are actually usually so good at what we do that we can pull out fighters, fainters, and fuckwits without the principal missing a beat. Most times even people 2 meters away never even knew something happened.\n\n The security teams that shut down a show for little things ARE NOT doing a good job. They are being overzealous and likely trying to CREATE their need. Justify their existence with bullshit P&P (you see this a lot in Entourages for people that no one actually cares about. Or they've had a stage-breach scare in the last 12 months.)\n\n Professionally, performers should know to play on. Obviously if its super serious it gets shut down but Security Staff make the call, and frankly its kind of bullshit ego trip when the performer stops and points shit out (yeah, even when Dave Grohl does it... sorry).\n\n It can make things way worse, not just for the poor person who feels terrible that their shitty hydration and food intake made them faint, but if the performer stops to point out a fight, it ALWAYS makes things worse. Firstly a crowd can 'try to help' which is dangerous... or it signals the dipshits that the famous person will pay attention to them if they act out. Anyone who's done security knows that after one incident... it opens the gates. eg when young girls see another girl faint and get pulled over the barrier (closer to the stage) and get some attention... you'll get dozens more.\n\nSorry for the rant, but I am doing here in the rick-roll where it'll just be me talking into the void.", "you monster.", "You mother….", "Wow he aged fast in 1987!", "i came to the comments to find a timestamp... now i just feel stupid.", "You motherfucker, I watched that entire thing.", "yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah took me about 3:30 before I realized I had been had. Not even mad, I enjoyed the video anyway.", "[ Jump to 03:30 @ Rick Astley - Never Gonna Give You Up [LIVE]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3yUYEkNUQU&t=0h3m30s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: panos1977, Video Popularity: 98.06%, Video Length: [04:25])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@03:25](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3yUYEkNUQU&t=0h3m25s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^\| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)", "I think you missed the joke", "This is how flat earth started", "I feel like such a fool. Lol", "I can't believe that worked, watched the whole thing....", "cunt", "Oh You Bastard!!", "Okay, that's flawless work. Well played.", "You fucking asshole." ]	143	videos	Rick Astley - Halts a song because an audience member passes out, makes sure they got rescued then resumes playing - 1987
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKHxHikioPg	/r/videos/comments/qpawyu/man_blows_the_mind_off_three_cable_salesmen_from/	[ "Loved this dudes videos, Really sad he died :( such rare talent.", "I know I watched his videos for years! Properly sucks 😕", "RIP Mouse .", "Also that one dude said he just graduated with an electrical engineering degree.", "[Laoshu505000](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yoj-VC8Sb7A) . His youtube channel is great. RIP Moses", "I went to an Afghan restaurant traveling through South Dekota and asked the owner in Dari how come his restaurant was named after a Persian province, and his name was Arab. He angrily asked me who I was, said something under his breath about me being a spy and left, then sent out one of his workers to serve our table.\n\nGood food, but raisins in rice make no sense.", "Rip Moses. Havent been able to watch his videos since he died :(", "Sales people can make a lot of money. Working for the government… not so much", "Why do raisins in rice make no sense to you? Its a common pairing in many countries from the middle east to Poland", "Super cool, and his (limited) German was definitely better than the sales bro's (very limited) German.", "The American job market and education system are pretty screwed up right now. It’s heartbreaking because some of the smartest people I know, with the most crippling debt from their expensive degrees, are unable to work in their field. Masters degrees in engineering doing data entry, it’s a travesty.", "My first instinct is that the guy with the clipboard is the only full time sales guy. The other two are from corporate to evaluate or to learn field experience", "Oh man, that's so sad to hear. I just found out through you. We was an inspiration, and no doubt his videos will continue to inspire. A truly brilliant and passionate man. RIP.", "Yes man. At least through the power of the internet his videos will continue his legacy. Iv never been so sad about a \"celeb\" dying as i was with Moses.", "RIP. I only discovered him right as he died. I hope his videos are still inspiring people to learn languages and how important and powerful it can be", "Sales probably pays more than government job.", "Gone too soon man!", "Jon Stewart talked about this on his show last week. Worth a watch, best clip I could fun - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXZoO-FjJyQ&ab\\_channel=TheProblemWithJonStewart](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXZoO-FjJyQ&ab_channel=TheProblemWithJonStewart)", "Feds pay decently if you can get one of those jobs...", "As stupid as it is, US employers don't care what degree you have but they do want 5 years experience in that field for entry-level positions.", "Uummm...how is this sales dude just 'accessing his router' randomly?", "Did they send the UN to sell cable 3 people all speaking multiple languages seems like a lot and one in a sport coat I don't really understand.", "Or they want a 4 year degree to be a receptionist. It's wacky af", "He ... isn't?\n\nI mean, if it's provided by the ISP and they are from that ISP, then maybe they could, but even that seems unlikely ... other than that, it's just bullshit.", "Okay but the dude has an Electrical Engineering degree. That’s an instant job almost anywhere in the country." ]	26	videos	Man blows the mind off three cable salesmen from his front door
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zUh7tWXK1I	/r/videos/comments/qpb97p/guys_its_november_8th/	[ "I want him to have an incestuous relationship with his sister so badly. Is that really too much to ask for???", "I guess it's time to pull out the festive pjs pants a bit early this year.", "Thafuq? Suspenders and a belt? 😟" ]	3	videos	Guys, it's November 8th
https://youtu.be/OQcTc9u2Zu8	/r/videos/comments/qpba5t/alt_j_with_their_new_song_got_me_teary_eyed/	[ "God damn.", "The verse about the car crash cut deep. Life is fleeting, we're fragile and impermanent so enjoy each others company while you have it.", "is there any backstory to the song?", "No dry eyes through that one...whoa", "That was great. Thanks for sharing!", "Yea that really kicked me right in the feels 🥲" ]	6	videos	Alt J with their new song got me teary eyed..
https://youtu.be/y9qEqLhwUGM	/r/videos/comments/qpbhq4/frank_gets_analyzed_whenever_someone_says_danny/	[ "I think frank taught us all a mew way to eat pistachios", "🤣😂🤣😂🤣\nMan, I miss Jersey.", "People think god-tier actor Danny DeVito has no range!?", "Does anyone else think this is a reference to The Elephant Man?", "Watch One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest. He deserved an Oscar.", "Yes he absolutely did. I for one do not think he has zero range. He’s a living icon. A true legend. A walking Mantis in the form of a man just crushing everything in his life", "No one says Danny DeVito has no range.", "Clickbait title. It's like saying if anyone thinks Mike Tyson isn't a good boxer, show them this...", "He has range. What he doesn’t have is height.", "\"I don't like to think about it!\"\n\nPuts a little lump in my throat", "LOL. wtf are those? Pistachios??", "I did. I just said it to my wife a moment ago.", "Video proof or it didn't happen.", "Bring it down to like a 4.", "If anyone doesn't think He-man can own skeletor, I show them this clip...", "If anyone thinks superman can't leap tall buildings in a single bound, I show them this clip...", "How often do you have conversations with people specifically pertaining to Danny DeVito's acting range? I can honestly say the topic has never come up for me. Ever." ]	18	videos	Frank Gets Analyzed - whenever someone says Danny DeVito has no range I show them this one scene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYokSqEcI4c	/r/videos/comments/qpbhvv/cowboy_kent_rollins_creamy_white_chicken_chili/	[ "Sorry, none of those words before the word chili make sense.", "Chicken breast cooked to 165F and THEN simmered for an hour? Sounds like a recipe for bone dry chicken to me.\n\nEDIT: Damn I really got skewered here. I guess a lot of people just like to overcook their chicken breasts. Kent's videos are great, and on the whole I think this is a great recipe. I'd just personally use thighs or cook the breast less to ensure it stays moist. Y'all do y'all, I guess.", "Creamy - containing or resembling cream in consistency or color.\n\nWhite - light or pale in color\n\nChicken - a domestic fowl kept for its eggs or meat", "I'd reckon that being cut up and thrown into a stew would make that chicken pretty dang moist again, what with the liquid and all.", "he looked like a real cowboy until i saw that cast iron pot he was using", "White chicken chili is legit delicious", "verified cowboy", "Sounds like you don’t know how moisture works when cooking", "Kent Rollins adds that cowboy flair to Grandma’s down-home cooking. Is it fine dining? No, but it’s not trying to be. It’s wholesome and hilarious at that. \n\nBut to your point, you could always put the chicken breast to the side and then add it back for the last 10 min in the simmer. Maybe add some chicken base when you remove the breast at first so you’re not losing that chicken flavor reinforcement.", "One of his dogs is named Duker. As in shitter. I know because I call my dog pooper, because that's primarily what they doo.", "You've never had dry chicken in a soup or dry beef in a stew? Just because it's in liquid doesn't make the meat moist and juicy.", "Do you? Chicken breast taken to 165F is already somewhat dry. Fat and moisture has already been expelled in the smoker. And then you put it in an even hotter environment? That will just squeeze more moisture out of the chicken. Cooking a protein in a liquid doesn't ensure that it stays moist. The internal temp of the protein is the most important factor.", "> You've never had dry chicken in a soup or dry beef in a stew?\n\nCan't say as I have - or at least, I never really noticed.", "Ya same here. When I think of dry chicken in my past experiences I don't ever remember one in broth or liquid.", "Nonsense when I want to make chicken jerky I put it in a pot of hot water and just wait for an hour.", "Yeah it's been such a problem I have stopped eating chicken soup when I am sick and dehydrated and instead of started eating dry oatmeal to really quench that thirst. Also I find it best to eat ramen quickly before the noodles dry out.", "[I think I found someone reacting to ScootyHoofdrop's chicken.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IW-flHQAfk)", "White chicken chili is to regular chili like white chocolate is to real chocolate.", "Correct real cowboys only use Teflon like they used to on the trail.", "That cast iron is a fancy one.", "\"fancy\" = handles with spirals. Oh no it has hand grips call the police!", "Well it sounds like you would know! Have you even looked up the skillet? It’s super expensive. Half my family is from east texas and it’s not what the old dudes use. But go ahead and make fun of me", "What point are you trying to reach with that?", "The word real was the hint.", "Weird that a magazine devoted entirely to cooking would talk about this specific issue, but by all means, make me out to be the fool. \n\nhttps://www.bonappetit.com/test-kitchen/common-mistakes/article/beef-stew-common-cooking-mistakes\n\n“Though it's a staple in most households, this rich, hearty meal can sometimes fall short. It can be too thin or too thick; the meat can be dry and stringy or gray and flavorless;…”", "As opposed to imaginary?", "I'm with you, bud. I know this isn't a cooking sub, but I'm still surprised by how many people are just flat out rejecting actual cooking science.", "Okay, you are about as much of a real cowboy as a little city girl that does beauty pageants." ]	30	videos	Cowboy Kent Rollins \| Creamy White Chicken Chili
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfKWHtNDGKU	/r/videos/comments/qpbipw/at_home_with_english_247_live_stream_oblivion/	[ "Oh my god...I've been watching this for the past 30 minutes...why...? Lol", "Because the word \"shall\" is triggering your subconscious obedience cortex. They are going to murder their kids when they get home from shopping, and you are going to murder yours.", "Lmmfao" ]	3	videos	At Home With English - 24/7 Live Stream (Oblivion edition) - literal gold
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YYzwTL9dgcg	/r/videos/comments/qpbon4/an_autotuned_travis_scott_falls_off_stage/	[ "lmao", "If only he died then.", "oh my fuck." ]	3	videos	An autotuned Travis Scott falls off stage
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qpbtxi/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qpbtxi/deleted_by_user/	[ "More details on the [original video here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nZHZFo29k4) and an [article about it here ](https://www.avweb.com/aviation-news/pilot-says-skydive-king-air-spun-after-c-of-g-exceeded/)", "fucking badass", "Nearly sent the plane into a flat spin... Looks like the pilot struggled to get the plane away from the skydivers, which is what scared me the most!" ]	3	videos	[deleted by user]
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qpcp4i/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/qpcp4i/deleted_by_user/	[ "Alright folks, bring on the downvotes!", "Kill a few people at a show and maybe he learned from it.", "How dare you post things counter to the narrative? \n\nMusic man bad!", "Why are you trying to defend this piece of shit? He could have stopped the show 20 times, and then failed to stop the show one time it would have saved lives, and he would still be every bit as responsible for this tragedy. And he certainly didn't stop the show that many times.\n\nPeople still trying to say he did anything at all correct in that situation, are pretty fucking terrible people. Wtf is wrong with you?", "Posts controversial video and asks for downvotes. So edgy.", "Personally I enjoy giving people what they want, so I was quite happy to oblige.", "I enjoy going against the hive mind that Reddit can be every once in awhile. I enjoy helping people feel important and feeding their sense of moral superiority. Redditors are the smartest, most socially aware, morally sound people the world has ever witnessed.", "Wait I thought musicians stopping the show to help people was the popular thing to post on Reddit? What happened? Where are all my upvotes???", "Red herring.", "I’m not defending anyone. I’m just posting a video of an artist stopping a show trying to help someone. Isn’t that the hot thing to post right now?", "Okay, got it, you're a disingenuous asshole who will not engage honestly about this subject. Cool. Now people will know not to even bother, and just downvote your idiotic attempt to seem interesting. Buhbye loser.", "Woah you sure showed me!", "No, you're too stupid for me to try and show anything. But you go ahead and pretend otherwise really hard lol", "I would give anything to have the moral superiority that you do. You are the Jesus of Reddit. Please teach me your ways.", "I'm definitely morally superior to Travis Scott. Its weird you think thats somehow a bad thing, but still not worth continuing to engage with your idiocy. So long jackass, keep trying.", "This guy's a fucking idiot. So is that rapper I've never heard of before yesterday.", "Based on your comment history, it seems everyone is an asshole besides you. Your opinion is nothing more than whatever is the most popular opinion is at the time. Maybe you aren’t the Reddit Jesus I thought you were :( \nYou’re just another poor sap who gets off to the fact that he’s echoing the same thoughts and emotions as everyone else. And it feels good, I get it. People want to be accepted, people want to feel good. People want those upvotes. But I hope someday you’ll wake up and have an original thought of your own. Wishful thinking, but one can hope. Thank you for participating in this exercise. Now get back out there and show’em what you’re made of big guy!", "Lmao you tried so hard, and you missed with every arrow. Sorry, we're done here, you're not only a fuckwit lacking any moral compass, you're also boring, and that's just unforgivable.\n\nBut you go ahead and keep shouting your needy inanities to the void, loser. My silence henceforth will speak for me as to the impact your words have. Lol what a douchebag.\n\nEdit- lol, and now you're even repeating me. Damn you're stupid.", "And yet here you are still trying. Although a very incoherent jumbled mess, you tried at least.\n\nAhh I see you went back and edited your original response. Typical Redditor", "This guy is a jackass, that has nothing to do with \"ThE rEdDiT hIvE mInD\". You're straight fucking retarded.", "I think you touched a nerve 😉", "Travis Scott could learn a thing or two from this guy.", "Dude is in fact a total.piecee of shit. You defending him is making you start to smell too, but you do you. Ass.", "Lmao nope, just done with assholes trying to defend what is indefensible. He had the responsibility, as the performer, and as the organizer, to protect the people at the venue. He not only failed, he quite deliberately did the opposite. He told people to flip off the EMTs and ambulances WHILE THE CRISIS WAS HAPPENING. He saw there was a problem AND DIDNT STOP THE CONCERT AS PEOPLE WERE DYING, FOR FORTY MINUTES. Anything you say defending him makes YOU the idiot, not me. Moron.", "Dipshit, the reality of what happened, and Scott's culpability, is all the fuck over every.major news site and service, has been since this entirely preventable tragedy happened, and the details have been pored over by basically everybody. The people who are still saying he isn't responsible are vanishingly few, and you want to continue standing by him? Fine. You're a piece of shit too. Flat out.\n\nAnd sorry, but the original post was made by, as I said at the time, a disingenuous idiot who was not engaging on the topic honestly. So who gives a fuck what their opinion is, or your take on my response? Sorry, you'll need to try a lot harder than that, jackass.\n\nBut you won't be getting the opportunity. Buhbye, nimrod. Just blocking you and moving on with the rest of the people who actually pay attention and know who should be held at fault." ]	26	videos	[deleted by user]
https://youtu.be/dw7alNjkYro	/r/videos/comments/qpcuu4/succession_but_everyone_just_wants_logans_mms/	[ "The voices and mannerisms are spot on!", "Yeah, I've never seen or heard of this show, but I had to go check IMDB to see if Kieran Culkin was in it, because that was perfect.", "I've showed this to everyone who's watched the show - the interaction between Shiv and Tom is so good lol", "Do yourself a favor and watch the best show on TV.", "I haven't started season three but this was actually a pretty good recap of the first two seasons.", "Ken and Roman were spot on", "I tried the first couple episodes and couldn't really get into it. Does it hit its stride later on?", "Yea, it's probably one of the most well written shows ever, and I don't say that lightly. It's got everything from comedy gold to Shakespearean drama.", "that FUCK OFF GODDAMIT!!! is spot on lol", "I love how kendall is just staring in a corner, he's basically a robotic lap dog in the show", "This is amazing.", "I wish that this video had no context, because it's entertaining enough on its own.", "preview image is awful, have a downvote", "Yeah well can't so much about that", "you're awful, have a downvote", "BAD THUMBNAIL WAAA" ]	15	videos	Succession But Everyone Just Wants Logan's M&Ms
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmTNWynx7VQ	/r/videos/comments/qpcwfj/news_report_on_amazoncom_from_early_1997/	[ "Halfprice.com was so much better back then.", "Bezzos before he was a bald, feelingless machine. Weird.", "That arch-villain laugh at the end of the video…", "Oh, he's always been feelingless, don't be fooled." ]	4	videos	News report on Amazon.com from early 1997
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvNQkvpJ4fU	/r/videos/comments/qpd78b/i_used_ai_tools_to_generate_audio_of_spongebob/	[ "I think I just found my new ringtone.", "This is why I work in tech. May the planet forgive us.", "Ok, we gotta get Squidward singing Amish Paridise now too", "I for one welcome our robot homies", "What are the tools?", "Squidward should sing \"Breakstuff\" by Limp Bizkit. Or maybe \"Everybody ~~Cries~~ Hurts\" by REM. \n \nedit: Stupid Monday brain.", "I didn't think I needed this. I needed this. Thank you", "beautiful music for a Monday morning", "This is why I come to reddit. I didn't know I needed this until I heard it. Spotify link?", "This is absolutely amazing", "Yes. Haha. If Skynet ever lands with this playing I think we would surrender .", "Reminds me of the Ice King songs in Adventure Time.\n\nI mean, makes sense, they're both Tom Kenny, but it's just the only time I've ever heard him sing.", "If they can get SpongeBob to sound that damn convincing, I wanna see if they can get Patrick singing \"Psychosocial\" by Slipknot. \n\nOr SpongeBob and Patrick singing \"I got 5 on it\" by Luniz.", "Patrick sings \"My Way\", pls", "This is amazing! I need some Spongebob Wutang, then my life will be complete.\n\nSpongebob C.R.E.A.M. helllllls yeah", "I think Patrick should sing it instead.", "This was done before by another redditor and [ I animated it](https://youtu.be/W4y0lZMqR_o)", "That was dope. I love that song.", "THIS. IS. SPECTACULAR.", "Yep, the other one is more original and transformative.", "I wanna hear WAP next.", "But did Coolio stop his set when SpongeBob got all the water squeezed out of him?", "Here is a good list https://www.softwaretestinghelp.com/ai-voice-generators/\n\nIn this case it's probably https://15.ai a website currently being reworked. By \"I used AI tools\" op means \"I pasted the lyrics in a text field\".\n\nEDIT : or https://Lovo.ai Just saw they have SpongeBob available as a free demo.", "I didn't say they're the same. the concept was done before a long time ago already.", "Holy Shit bro this is amazing", "How are we defining \"AI\" these days? Adaptive ML? I'm not seeing the \"intelligence\" here.", "Patrick should have been the one singing the chorus, I would have died hearing that", "Oh, it won’t.", "i enjoyed this way too much and i'm not even sure why", "Yup cool video but op didn’t develop the ai", "I didn't think I needed this. I needed this. Thank you", "Never in my life have I needed something so much and never known until I received it. \n\n-Vegeta", "Ahhhhmazing! 😳😳😳😳", "the future is here.", "wouldn't they need to copy/paste the words, then manually rearrange all of the phrasing and then also autotune it to match the song? Or do these tools do all of that too?", "Okay, it's been removed due to copyright.\nAnyone got a mirror or know how I could see it?" ]	36	videos	I used AI tools to generate audio of SpongeBob singing "Gangster's Paradise" by Coolio
https://youtu.be/swroOUmWGps	/r/videos/comments/qpdiry/during_the_2010_vancouver_olympics_alexisonfire/	[ "Lmfao, I see the Travis Scott fanboys are brigading the subreddit and down voting everything that has to do with bands that give a shit about their fans/people in a crowd.", "Jesus ur right I’m at 0 votes lol", "I was just thinking about this show after hearing about Travis Scott. I was 17 and in that crowd. I had no idea how much danger I was in. When the person filming turns around to film the crowd... I didn't realize how many people were behind me. I was maybe 100-200m from the stage. Remember being pushed forward, sandwiched between two people. My feet were barely on the ground. Then Dallas Green shut it down. At the time, I thought it was kind of fun. A little novelty and excitement in my teenage life. I didn't hear until later that someone broke their arm. Now, I understand that I could have died that night if Dallas Green didn't handle it as competently as he did.", "My boyfriend is the one who reminded me of this after I told him about Travis Scott, he was also at that show when he was 17 haha. He wasn’t at the front though more so in the middle. As soon as they started playing though someone turned around and punched him square in the face for no reason", "Wtf. That's wild. I can't imagine what it was like at Travis' show. Travis had a history of encouraging chaotic behaviour at his shows. Imagine if your boyfriend got punched and Dallas Green encouraged it...", "Right? I can’t believe this whole Travis Scott shit, I’ve been to so many shows over the years and have never experienced any of this. I always have made my way to the front too snd have even been in a few crowd surges although not as big as these ones. He should honestly go to prison for this it’s like involuntary manslaughter, this was totslly avoidable. If Dallas green noticed right away, Travis 200% saw what was going on" ]	6	videos	During the 2010 Vancouver Olympics Alexisonfire was performing a free show and a crowd surge happened as soon as they came on and broke the barrier, injuring 20. Within seconds Dallas Green immediately stopped the show and it got cancelled. Travis Scott could learn a thing or two from this..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUCkYySPub0	/r/videos/comments/qpdo4g/eternals_movie_review/	[ "\"Other actors no one cares about?\"Only reason I want to see it is Kumail Nanjiani.", "Kingo Sunen, you son of a bitch.", "Person who hates Marvel movies reviews Marvel movie." ]	3	videos	Eternals Movie Review!
https://youtu.be/01JFyGxiL3o	/r/videos/comments/qpdren/how_affirmative_action_creates_dangerous_double/	[ "Affirmative action does not create a dangerous double standard.", "Watch the video before commenting, please.", "Guys we’re currently at 75% downvotes. Beautiful stuff.\n\nAnyway, please watch the video before commenting. Don’t be narrow minded. 😊\n\nEdit: watch the damn video before commenting", "Lol dude posts a social scientist from the conservative Hoover think tank. “Come on guys, don’t down vote, this person is totally unbiased, give it a chance!”", "Don’t look at the person look at their words. I’m not saying to trust them, I’m saying watch the damn video.", "Stop spreading lies", "Lmao are you playing dumb? That video doesn’t say you need to trust him, it makes a claim and backs it up.\n\nTHAT’S CALLED ARGUMENTATION\n\nlook it up", "It's called you're a racist.", "No. You’re wrong. You will never be right, accusing people with no evidence. The only people who will agree with you are in your own little bubble of bigots. Get out more and you will see everyone disagrees with your bigoted shallow reasonings", "When do you figure affirmative action should end?", "It shouldn't end. Stop being triggered by PoC getting hired" ]	11	videos	How Affirmative Action Creates Dangerous Double Standards \| Thomas Sowell [04:59]
https://youtu.be/TMt36S8gdqg	/r/videos/comments/qpecdc/while_i_had_my_father_and_his_wife_over_for/	[ "\"oh shoot\" That's some wholesome shoot right there", "lmfao he definitely censored himself there", "all I saw and heard was street fighter 2", "It was a quality purchase." ]	4	videos	While I had my father and his wife over for dinner the other day, father noticed my son's bike was getting small so he decided to get him an upgrade. This DEFINITELY made my day (My dad and my son too!).

Subsets and Splits

No community queries yet

The top public SQL queries from the community will appear here once available.