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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcig6lxjm00	/r/videos/comments/r6kjyq/how_they_trick_tourists_with_food_by_weight/	[ "I expect nothing less from a country serving tourist that don't speak the language.", "The very next day they are like “ok back to business”", "Don't waste your time watching this. There was no trick. They gave the tourist more but they didn't put their finger on the scale or anything like that. Total nothing burger. All you had to do was ask for less. Big deal.", "Well this has to be the friendliest scam I've ever seen. The price per 100g is listed on the menu, then the weight and subsequent price is shown to the customer as they are served, and they can add or remove as much as they want... So basically they're banking on the usual unaware tourists who aren't paying attention and then purposefully giving them large portions. It's a bit disingenuous but fairly harmless.\n\nFor me this would be a genuine 'scam' if they were charging tourists more money for the same amount of product, something which is quite common in less developed countries.", "What're the odds that he cut EXACTLY 100grams? It seems like there's another layer of deception going on here.", "2nd twist: its not ham", "one has to consider competition too. it looks like there's a single ham stand so they can charge whatever the hell they want. the trip to london was tens of stands so they need to compete with one another. as someone else said, this is a nothing burger.", "I'd dislike the video!!! (if they'd let me)\n\n&#x200B;\n\nthey are just trying to make a big deal out of nothing lol", "Right. Isn't Prague one big scam?", "What is that woman eating at approx 2min? \n\nhttps://i.imgur.com/DmKxhaG.png\n\nIs she 1 handing a whole pizza?", "> and they can add or remove as much as they want...\n\nWell that's the point of contention, isn't it? Reviews say that the servers were unwilling to do that a lot of time and pressure people into paying. \"Just don't\", sure, ok.\n\n>It's a bit disingenuous but fairly harmless.\n\nNot so harmless if the mayor owns the stands, like they say.", "Agreed, nothing is stopping a tourist from asking for 100g or 200g of ham right? \n\nIt's a little scummy, but those people got gigantic plates of food. I thought the vendor would mess with the scale to short change them, instead they just double or triple sell.", "Anyone else feel like this video is just making something out of nothing? Like bro its tourist food. It's supposed to be slightly marked up. If it was some like ridiculous amount maybe that'd be sus but that's not even that bad lol. Those are some chunky slices of meat. Don't tell this guy about disneyworld or any amusement park, bro will be in there for hours filming undercover scam videos.", "Its called Langoš, it is deep fried flatbread made from sour dough. Usually topped with garlic, sour cream and cheese. And it is really tasty.\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%A1ngos", "I wouldn't happen to me. I would just ask for less. It's dumb to even make a video about this.", "> and they can add or remove as much as they want... \n\nI'm seeing multiple people say this, but watch the video, multiple reviews and people they asked said they requested less and the vendor refused, saying \"This is a normal portion\"." ]	16	videos	How they trick tourists with food "by weight"?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhXTT9ApTKk	/r/videos/comments/r6ko3f/a_compilation_of_every_threepointer_shaq_ever_made/	[ "And it was for the Magic! Guy peaked ridiculously early when it came to 3pt shooting!", "Both of them?", "Skip to the end", "And here's a video of every free throw he ever made.\n\n...............", "It's hard to imagine how much free time someone had to compile this video.", "thanks, i was getting really bored looking for the good part", "The replay really clutters up the video", "I really thought it was just going to be the curb outro but here we are", "I thought this was a joke. It's not.", "Spoilers: >!it’s when he makes the basket!<.", "And people still talk about Ben Simmons", "it is literally a joke", "Is Barkley behind this video?", "awww you ruined it!!!!!", "But also technically accurate", "Mom said it was my time to post this... (also keep that same title op don't ever get creative)", "I thought he made 2 in his career, but maybe I’m misremembering", "it's funny because it's true", "The best kind of accurate.", "Only one but he did 22 attempts maybe that's where you're remembering the 2 from.", "Now do Dirk", "Brilliant title!", "Very amazing 💯💥", "I honestly just thought it would be a rickroll or a blank video and I clicked on it anyway pleasantly surprised that it was in fact every single 3-pointer that Shaq has ever made.", "Definitely a six-part documentary. Ya'll want to dedicate a night to watching it.", "Amazing.", "I wonder if he thought things were gonna change after that", "All I can tell is that the voice at the end is speaking German so this must be clipped from German TV.", "tldw i think it would be better to split it into one compilation for each year", "eli5 context?", "A Shaq 3 pointer is an AND 1\n\n……well more like an AND MAYBE.", "It's crazy that both his threes were from the exact same spot on the court and against the same team.", "Shaq has a 19-year career in professional basketball. In that entire time he only attempted a 3-point shot 22 times, and only made 1 basket the entire time.\n\nIt sounds comically impossible that in 19 years he never made more than 1, 3-point shot, but he clearly hyper focused on other types of shots because of his height / style.", "I read on NbaToday.nz that Peter Jackson was recruited in helping to compile all the footage using AI" ]	35	videos	A compilation of every three-pointer Shaq ever made
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhiztuRbqzA	/r/videos/comments/r6l0va/hyde_park_winter_wonderland_opening_november_19/	[ "Hello /u/whenzy-29,\n\n/r/Videos requires that your account be older than 7 days in order to submit content here. This is a spam-prevention method *and cannot be waived.\n\nPlease feel free to submit once your account is over 7 days old. You may also want to consider our minimum karma requirement of at least 10 of each type - [explained here](https://reddit.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/204511829-What-is-karma) - so that you don't run into any further issues.\n\n***\n\n\nI am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/videos) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "thank you so much for reminding. i appreciated moderator....xx", "thanks for the video" ]	3	videos	Hyde Park Winter Wonderland opening November 19 2021 \| Carnaby 2021 #WinterWonderland2021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6T6JULySa0	/r/videos/comments/r6l2dt/trailer_for_lord_of_the_rings_if_it_were_a_horror/	[ "Shouldn't it just be them walking in the woods?", "Perhaps, but I wanted to tackled something a bit more difficult", "Seen from the orcs perspective ?", "Maybe haha, I was gonna use all three movies to make it more orc and monster based, but the files for 2 and 3 were corrupted.", "It's not a horror movie? It explores some pretty dark themes on the way to the end. The Passage of the Marshes gave me nightmares after my first read through and it's pretty harrowing in the movie as well.", "It definitely has some horror sequences. The Nazgul in the night is the first one that comes to mind.\n\nBut I'm not sure if I would call it a horror movie. It's pretty optimistic with the whole \"anyone can change the world, no matter how small\" type stuff. This is why I enjoyed it when I was younger, and still do now. \n\nIt's funny you should mention that though, I was actually going to use that scene. Specifically when the ghosts in the water hypnotize (?) Frodo. But then my files for the 2nd and 3rd movies were corrupted so I went with just the first." ]	6	videos	Trailer for Lord of the Rings, if it were a Horror movie
https://youtu.be/IgYs_NDyaLs	/r/videos/comments/r6li6y/the_matrix_resurrections_déjà_vu/	[ "They should've cut his hair, this way he looks like John Wick on the Matrix", "How else would we know that time has passed? He doesn’t age.", "Not too be confused with [Déjà Fu](https://wiki.lspace.org/mediawiki/D%C3%A9j%C3%A0_Fu)", "I've gone from cold to warm on this. There's a chance it could be good.", "It seems like this movie is showing reality where Neo took blue pill", "Wow, this trailer is so much better. I'm excited now.", "This movie looks awful", "Agreed. I'm just hoping it's \"so bad it's good\" type of awful.", "Fingernails", "I think Keanu was working on both the Matrix and the new John Wick at the same time. Probably why they couldn't cut his hair.", "they could've at least changed his hairstyle. Like give him cornrows", "Everyone noticed that the launch date is a palindrome? 12.22.21", "Yeah, that's the idea I've got from these trailers. Maybe I'm wrong and it will be much better on the big screen.", "It looks like the same shit all over again, without anything added to make it compelling." ]	14	videos	The Matrix Resurrections – Déjà Vu
https://youtu.be/dVxesoegPC4	/r/videos/comments/r6limt/video_of_kala_brown_being_released_from_serial/	[ "\"I'm off the chain like Kala Brown\"", "Coming up on the Little Stinkers podcast.\n\nLol. Not my podcast. Not affiliated at all with it, just a fan. Merely mentioned it for other fans as I was curious about the video after listening to it on early access. If you like informative murder stories told with a smattering of terrible puns, I highly recommend.", "I don’t like watching I’m not gonna lie. I’ve seen it so much time before. it’s so fucked up what happened to her.", "What was she saying about red peppers? Do they deter dogs or something?", "\"Todd Kohlhepp shot Charlie Carver three times in the chest, wrapped him in a blue tarp, put him in the bucket of the tractor, locked me down here. I've never seen him again,\" she says. \"He says he's dead and buried. He says there are several bodies dead and buried out here, and he says that the dogs will be ruined if they go looking because there's red pepper.\"", "Thats intense. The way she give them the information is like shes been reciting it for exactly this moment.", "If people don't know this an Eminem line. Kala responded to the lyric and said she took no offense to it and mentioned it was clever.", "Right. If people weren't paying attention to the news and they heard Eminem sing it they may have looked it up and found out what he was referring to.", "If there's enough red pepper on the ground it can burn a dog's paw pads [as described in this article.](https://www.lifewithdogs.tv/dog-owners-irate-after-finding-cayenne-pepper-dumped-on-neighbourhood-lawns/)\n\nThere are many recipes online for using a red pepper mixture as a dog repellent, as it will irritate their noses and eyes.", "Insanity. Reminds me to tell everyone about the excellent film Room (2015).", "I don't even want to know the odds of walking out of one of those things alive...", "Hey, just a reminder, tell everyone about that Room movie.", "Shoutout dad meat", "Thought that cop was going to grab that chain around her neck and lead her out with it for a sec there", "Which movie ?", "Room (2015).", "You mean the movie about a woman held captive for 7 years in an enclosed space, and her young son, who finally gain their freedom, allowing the boy to experience the outside world for the first time ?", "I live down the road from where this happened. Pretty surreal when it happens in your own backyard.", "Sure. But y'know.... spoilers, there.", "Yeah he was my realtor. Knew him for over a decade. Crazy shit.", "Anyone got context, I kinda don't wanna Google", "Motherfucker shut the fuck up", "How long would that last? And how much red pepper would that take, like several tons worth??", "Great job to the officers in this video showing restraint and not shooting the girl chained to the wall.", "It's in the video description i believe", "That sucks. I really wanted to watch the abridged version but I seriously can't deal with that narrator. Oh well, 4 hours of interviews it is.", "NOT to be confused with “The Room” - an also excellent film", "You concentrate it where the dog would be going; I remember reading about ship captains in WWII that were snuggling Jewish people out would have a handkerchief that was dabbed with rabbit's blood to attract the German dogs searching the ship, but it was also laced with cocaine to numb their noses so they wouldn't find the hidden compartments", "What spoilers ? That's the summary from imdb !\n\n>!Do you mean that this summary is the plot for the whole movie ?!<", "Cocaine, rabbit’s blood, and snuggling? I’m in.", "Snuggling jewish people sounds more fun but less heroic.", "Why does the cop drop his bottle of water in a crime scene? I'm not saying he's 'planting' something but fuck sake.", "DAMN !", "🤦‍♂️ I'm leaving it 😂", "I know you're not supposed to judge people, but to me, this Todd guy seems like a real jerk.", "You have to snuggle to get grandma's babka recipe", "When I'm talkin little bitch", "You seem angry about something. Wanna talk?", "a lotta retelling this story in true crime podcast circuits lately.", "You've always gotta be ready for human error. Shit me, Have you never made a mistake?", "Nah. Though it definitely feels like it would be a spoiler, that all happens very early in the movie. The movie is more about the mother and sons life after the traumatic beginning of the movie.", "Watch the video. It wasn't a mistake. Really weird.", "hmmmmmmmmmmm", "i dont remember last video i saw of police actually doing their job and this is from 2016", "There is a human being chained to a wall right in front of him. I think making them his #1 priority and not putting his water bottle down somewhere convenient was probably the right move here.", "I’m sorry", "Lmao, most people would consider reading a plot summary spoiling yes. \n\n\nI don't know how you give an explanation of the ending of a movie, and it's not a spoiler.", "Oh, hai Mark!", "Bitch, I don’t know who the fuck y’all are", "what's your talent? Oh, critiquin'", "Hoo boy. Maybe I should not have recommended a film at all.", "Can you drop the time in the video?", "Would be odd if you knew everyone on a massive internet community.", "It's horrifying when you think just how many people are in this exact situation, but never found out.", "The more i learn about that guy the more I don't care for him", "Boooo! Pay money for advertising like the rest of the world. So goddamn cringy seeing these \"commercial\" posts. I'll be sure to drop you a bad review, complaining about the podcast itself and the hosts! \n\nAnd while I'm complaining, maybe cover somthing remotely original - seems lazy to be the thousandth podcast about the same case.", "Good, always commit to typos that make the comment waaaay funnier.", "Pretty interesting how people responded to this Eminem line. \n\nOr his history with homosexuals. You still hear him use faggot in his lyrics.\n\nAnd yet Reddit, as liberal as it is, LOVES Eminem.", "It has the greatest sex scene in film history", "RIP Norm", "If he was a youtube video you would think he was an outstanding gentleman.", "She might have. You gotta keep your hopes up, and in this case that's the hope of being rescued and making sure that the person who did it goes to prison for life.\n\nIf she's been preparing that recitation in her head a hundred times to make sure that Todd Kohlhepps defender won't have any wiggleroom to question her witness statement, it wouldn't surprise me.", "DO YOU HAVE ANY WEAPONS? chained to wall... \"No\"", "A model for police everywhere", "It happens at 0:44. \n\nHe's obviously choosing to put the water bottle down, which is a good idea considering there's a human being chained up in the back of that storage container, who knows what else is inside, plus his weapon is drawn. The less distractions, the better. The girl could be bait for a trap somewhere in between them.\n\nIt looks like he's \"planting it\" because someone yells assumedly his name \"Joey\" and he gets spooked, dropping the bottle abruptly.", "Same. His voice is annoying and narrating doesn't really seem necessary anyways.", "Never, knot even once.", "Maintaining such a level head in that situation is genuinely impressive.", "Orange shirt at 0:44 or so. Pretty bizarre but more likely moron than grand conspirator.", "I like how they all bumble in almost three abreast, oblivious to any booby trapping that could occur.", "It is pretty interesting. All the downvotes I'm getting must be from MGK fans 😅😅😅", "Oh she's is not levelheaded. It's 100% a coping mechanism for high stress and keeping yourself from completely breaking down.", "well... not literally your own backyard... right? Otherwise you should probably hand yourself in", "One of the best parts about Room is not knowing wtf is going on in the opening quarter of the runtime.", "The suspect reviewed items on Amazon that he used to lock people up. If I remember correctly.", "Just coming straight out with the racism eh? Bold choice.", "AFTER he's sweeping everyone in front of him with his weapon. Dumbass.", "Wait, Greer SC?", "Found the dumb racist living on subsidies", "Holy shit this guy is the poster child of racist kid shit talking on halo.", "Yeah, I’m pretty sure that was in [Number the Stars.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_the_Stars)", "Which movie ?", "[Number the Stars](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_the_Stars) \n \n >Number the Stars is a work of historical fiction by the American author Lois Lowry about the escape of a family of Jews from Copenhagen, Denmark, during World War II. The story centers on 10-year-old Annemarie Johansen, who lives with her mother, father, and sister Kirsti in Copenhagen in 1943. Annemarie becomes a part of the events related to the rescue of the Danish Jews, when thousands of Jews were to reach neutral ground in Sweden to avoid being relocated to concentration camps.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( \| )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( \| )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( \| )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove \| v1.5)", "Found the racist camped out in Dallas waiting for JFK Jr to come back", "If you watch \"the room\" by Tommy Wiseau, you'll get wtf for the whole movie !", "How many?", "I would leave the guy with the gun looking for something to shoot, outside.", "Rappers and musicians say the N word and many other foul words.", "Exactly. Preserving the crime scene is definitely the secondary goal here, as it should be. You have to focus on making sure that woman is safe first", "About one in (insert number of victims here)", "Anyway, how's your sex life?", "Like for \"No time to die\" or \"Avengers infinity war\"...\n\nMan, will I be downvoted to oblivion if I say that in Titanic, the boat hit an iceberg ?", "The worst part about it is the hypocrisy", "> plus his weapon is drawn\n\n> because someone yells assumedly his name \"Joey\" and he gets spooked\n\nThis story could have gone another way and those cops would be forced to release her history of cannabis use.", "Yep, and later in the movie it has the greatest sex scene in film history", "Do you mean the cop pointing his gun at her?", "Pretty sure they just felt bad for her because of her melanin deficiency", "No no it's just an expression...", "When you're defending cops its a reflex.", "That's why they have guns out ready to shoot at anything suspicious.", "The same as 17% of everyone one reddit with unverified email I guess.", "seems something worth remembering.", "Wait was there another one? Been a while but I just remember all the rose petals and a very weird amount of time spent filming Tommy's bare ass", "Like 5 or 6", "The thin blue line between law and lawlessness.", "Horrifying", "I was thinking along those same lines. What a terrible situation to be in.", "It definitely feels like she prepped that. She seems like a very strong willed person. Can't imagine the amount of therapy to recover from the trauma.", "They sure do. They're also incredibly, absurdly, almost comically misogynistic. But that's ok, because the real villains of society are \\_\\_\\_\\_\\_\\_\\_!", "Sounds level headed to me", "Yep, that’s them.", "I'll never forget this. I'd just become a police officer at the time and had been an EMT for awhile and man, just seeing this video makes me wonder what kind of debrief/CISM the responders needed. I followed Kohlhepp's case closely, and learned after his confession that he'd killed earlier, in 2003, at a sports bike shop. He also murdered 2 people he hired to work on his property.\n\nAbsolutely insane what uncovering one victim can unravel.", "https://www.grunge.com/414374/this-is-how-many-victims-serial-killer-todd-kohlhepp-actually-had/ terrifying", "Imagine if she was a black guy they'd be like \"We took down one of the suspected kidnappers who had apparently been hiding out here when he somehow accidentally chained himself in\"", "More like 5 out of every 6 shipping containers you see.", "If only there was someone with the appropriate title who was permitted to judge him.", "Well that other thing, that was the worst. But the SECOND worst.", "Not one female in the whole dept who could have gone in first without a camera and floodlight?\n\nThat video is more horrific than any of the gore I’ve seen online over the years. Imagining being locked in a box like that is horrifying.\n\nEdit : The downvotes speak volumes.", "Yup that's where I remember that trick from.", "Hey this is reddit, no giving cops the benefit of the doubt! stern look", "“She was struggling right at us!”", "\"I wish, I would have smoked that asshole\"", "Ones a historic event that is taught around the world. The other ones an obscure movie, that isn't even the most popular movie by the same name. \n\nCommon bro... Like your not even trying", "Fucking disgusting trying to make money of this you pig shit little turd", "“Just hang loose for me” — to the girl who’s hands are handcuffed behind her head lol. I bet that guy is still kicking himself for saying that", "how many people, in the US, are in this situation right now? You know it is more then 1", "Which one?", "I'd never heard about this case that I recall so I look it up and did a quick read. This guy left a review on Amazon for the locks he'd bought to put on the container, where it didn't explicitly say who but said \"it'll slow them down\" \n\njeeeesus", "About 1.8%", "Honestly sounds like a teenager wrote the script and handed it to a generic 'deep voiced' narrator from fiverr.", "Tell the dog people that", "Come on man not all cops are monsters. Not the right time for these politics. People like this wouldn’t be found without good cops and detectives.", "Uh oh, looks like one of the Xbox kids has gotten lost again.", "Was he as good at real estate as he was at murder?", "Not a kidnapping for me, but a house two doors down from mine had a man die in it, and then his wife kept the body for over a year in their bathtub. She was apparently trying to 'resurrect him' for all that time... Which is both terrifying and equally devastating.\n\nAlways just surreal to me though that I walked/ drove past that house daily for a year and there was a dead person inside it... I saw the lady lots of times as well, waved occasionally. Never really thought much of her or the house.\n\nCrazy how much can be going on right around us and we have no real way of knowing.", "At least two I know of", "Quenching his thirst was obviously first.", "It can sound level headed, but she was locked up in there on August 31 and rescued on November 3. By this point she'd been raped every single day of her captivity and was shown the graves of other people Todd had killed. She had experienced a degree of trauma that most people can't imagine and was on medication and in therapy for a long time afterward.", "Murderers, politicians, probably you.", "Sounds like it, but it's not. It's basically going into shock.", "FBI estimates there are around 50 uncaught serial killers operating in the USA. \n\nOne has to wonder how many of these uncaught killers work for law enforcement.", "Built a house from storage containers? It's haunted.", "Lmao. I can’t keep this up. This whole comment chain is made of lyrics from an Eminem song named The Ringer", "Should I watch this ? I wanna sleep tonight", "It's actually 5.4. Every single shipping container has people chained up in it. But 1/6 also has other things.", "Damn we got done dirty in this thread didn’t we", "Might wanna check any shipping containers on your property", "How long was she in there?? Also, she is so calm I would be losing my shit as soon as I heard banging at the door", "You mean the book Room (on which the movie is based), right?", "There's an [Explore With Us video](https://youtu.be/4GL8gk3b2L8) about this whole situation and how crazy it was. Similar to JCS if you like those videos.", "Hamilton, Ontario?", "Hello reddit armchair criminal psychologist.", "He was pretty successful so yeah I guess.. I remember him talking about how ridiculously easy it was to get the license in SC and in retrospect that takes on new significance..", "It's called \"stacking\" and it's the safest way to clear an unfamiliar area. They didn't know what they were going to find, so it was appropriate.", "Bunch of MGK fans I bet 😅😅😅", "Whatever you say, Todd...", "You're remembering both of them correctly then. They have the same scene twice in the movie.", "Fucking hell lmao", "It’s not bad but even then I think I would rather not have.", "No ragrets!", "They would have got nailed by booby traps.\nCompletely disorganised Hicks.\nHope she's ok.", "It's called rednecks.\nThey haven't a fucking clue. \nAsking eachother for tools.\nStacking my ass.", "She's a white girl chained the the wall.\n\nThere was never a risk here.", "Not the finest trained specimens around. Least they got the girl.", "I had a feeling it was but didn't know the song. Thanks for clearing it up. Appreciate that.", "That's pretty nuts. That Todd guy killed that poor girls boyfriend and a few other people in the area from what I remember about the story. But you're right, kind of spooky to think of what horrors are just next door.", "lol yeah but to be fair she may have armed herself and she may react thinking it's anyone but thte police", "Why would one wonder that?", ">That's why they have guns out ready to shoot at anything ~~suspicious~~.", "Cops are assholes, man. It's not politics.", "hey man be nice to halo hes a nice guy", "That's why there are shortages on shipping containers?", "What, you don't want your murder documentaries to start with \"What's up EWU crew, it's the raven!\"?", "erm", "To give a sub-par bar, even have an opinion or view", "Wait for me!", "A few years ago I saw Amanda Lindhout speak and her story is incredible like this. She (and I think her colleague) was abducted in Somalia and held for 460 days. She eventually was rescued or maybe escaped, I can’t remember how she was freed, but she wrote a book about it and I’m sure has done tons of interviews about it. She mentioned how multiple times she gave up on life, but eventually something would spark up her hope to get out okay.", "“beard’s weird”", "Exactly.\n\nYou can’t have true empathy for a situation you haven’t been in.\n\nThe same way a child doesn’t understand heat until they feel it for the first time. (Accidentally touching something hot, etc)", "> not all cops are monsters\n\nThis is the kind of thing trumpers say about Nazis. If you know most of them are isn't that enough to do something about? Not all cops handcuff and rape people, but enough do that it's a bad thing. And enough for us to make laws to specifically try and stop them. This could be a cliche cop story if instead of a shipping container that was a patrol car.", "I really don't understand how someone can do that sort of thing. Give his cell mates Viagra. Watch the bastard walk funny.", "Lol. It’s not my podcast. But it is a good podcast. Their next one is on this case. It’s such a good podcast I pay for it’s Patreon. I listened to the early access today. I suppose it’s different from other podcasts because they talk about serial killers in a comedy format while still be incredibly informative. Sorry to trigger you.", "It sounds like you may be looking for a new realtor.", "Lol. Not my podcast. But highly recommend it.", "She even made an aggressive movement of tilting her head that was chained to the wall. She barely escaped alive.", "(#serial killers arrested with a live prisoner \\+ \\#escapees)\n/ (#fatalities + #prisoners_without_functional_legs)", "Just fuck off cunt.", "House that is built on old shipping container ground? Believe it or not, straight to haunted.", "You’re a fool. Booby traps are incredibly rare.", "Also of interest:\n\n\nleaves girl chained to wall so he can grab bolt cutters\n\nSheriff: Hang loose for me.", "I've been a volunteer fireman.\n\nThe high and stressed voice, the fast monotone recitation, the repetitiveness in the way she talks, the focus on detail, the relatively rigid way she moves her body. She's displaying a lot signs of being in psychological shock mode. While we can't see it on video I would also suspect cold sweating and a very elevated pulse.\n\nIf I had met that girl in real life (even if there had been no sign of abuse. Like the chains, container etc) I would almost automatically revert to deescalation mode just based on her behavior. Any unnecessary questions or any sort of unexpected behavior (or triggering behavior like touch) that she didn't expect might trigger any sort of reaction as the body decides that \"this disassociation strategy isn't working, maybe I should try violence or catatonia instead?\".", "A man of class.", "> Not the right time for these politics.\n\nThey made a fuckton of tactical errors in entering this space and you're all up in arms about \"politics\"? Because they put themselves in the shittiest situation and set themselves up to kill someone for 'fear' here you are on about how it's not the right time.\n\nWhen people's lives are at risk, you're a fucking evil fuck if you think it's ever \"not the right time\" to talk about that. Get fucked.", "Why not? Cops can't be serial killers? Off the clock I mean.", "Serial killer kept her chained in the shipping container for about two months. Told her she had to please him sexually. He said she could say no and he wouldn't rape her, but if she was of no use to him, she'd be shot.", "Like a dog. Would have had some sick humor.", "I'm curious, do you have a link to his Amazon review?", "I find him quite unsavory", "Your loss.", "> Found the POC living on government assistance.\n\nFound the person who shouldn't be allowed to participate in adult society because they're too fucking stupid to form a rational thought themselves and think insulting someone for being on government assistance is even a reasonable thing. You're a fucking scumbag and an idiot if you insult people for being on assistance. And wow, look, you just fucking did.", "If you've seen it so much time before, sounds like you like to watch", "That's like... from the trailer.", "Yes, but not me.", "oh? what's the fancy term for that one asshole literally contaminating the scene by putting his water bottle in it", "I think we're just aiming for a society in which racist fucks like you have no place. I know it's hard to fathom that we might exile you from society for your actions and beliefs and not your skintone, but trust me, we will and it's way better this way. If you can't stop being a racist fuckhead, you can just fuck off to your bullshit fantasy land. Nobody wants you here. Go that way.", "Explain your comment.", "50 seems low", "He always seemed so nice in church.", "how does putting the water bottle down in the crimescene help the woman faster than, I don't know, carrying it", "Around 3 million kids go missing in north America a year eventually around 2 million are found 1 million are never seen again.", "He doesn't know that, and he could have put it in his pocket or carry it. why are so many people defending this obviously sloppy shit, between them trampling in and the bottle LOL", "What kind of license? License to kill?", "\"Snuggling\" teehee", "> It's called \"stacking\" and it's the safest way to clear an unfamiliar area.\n\nThe fuck? That wasn't stacking at all. The first two dudes walked in fully upright without even bothering to check corners, and the 3rd guy had his gun out and pointing at the backs of the dudes in front of him. You're insane if you think this was stacking and it was even a reasonable approximation of \"the safest way to clear an unfamiliar area\". They didn't use cover or check for a single booby trap in a sex slave shipping container. Again, insanity. The only thing they did is stack the deck towards getting them fucking killed. Christ. Shut the fuck up with this armchair bullshit. \"Stacking\" Jesus fuck.", "Yeah, it was dark in there, quick thinking on their part.", "That’s simply not true. It’s less than 500,000 total missing per year and the vast majority are resolved within hours. Obviously any child going missing is a tragedy but those numbers are blatantly misleading", "It’s helpful to have both hands free when walking into a potentially dangerous situation. Should he have left it outside? Sure. But to act like this is an intentional tampering of the crime scene is a bit of a stretch", "Gil Gunderson over here.", "Unbreakable! Those females are strong as hell.", "I actually knew Todd growing up. He went to my same junior high school. He had the last name of Samsell at the time. He was new in the school, having moved to my city to live with his father. Everyone knew him because he was such an arrogant loudmouth. He was one of those guys that would brag about anything and everything, even though he had nothing to brag about and none of it was true. Just about everything that came out of his mouth was bullshit. \n\nHe got in a lot of fights. I rememeber one vividly that happened after school. He got beat down pretty badly by some other kid and I walked away feeling really bad for him. Knowing what I know about him now, I, and I suspect everyone else there, would have jumped in on him too, just to make sure that he could never ever do the awful things he was destined to do. \n\nA few weeks later he raped a 12 year old girl in our neighborhood and threatened to kill her if she told anybody. Luckily she did tell and he got into enough trouble that they sent him away and eventually back to live with his mom in South Carolina. This is where he committed the rest of his crimes.", "That condensed version is good but the censoring really annoyed me. It’s a doc about a psychopath who kidnapped, raped and murdered multiple people and we have to censor the word “rape” and “shit”. Like what is the purpose lmao", "Found out about this from HasanAbi stream recently. Dude is pure evil.", "Big stinkers was already taken by your mom.", "Yes, I'm sure you can read his mind and know for certain he didn't know the girl was there, despite them being drawn to the container in the first place because they heard screaming coming from it.\n\nAs for the \"trampling\", I didn't see anything like that in the video. Sounds you're just fabricating shit at this point to not sound pathetic for complaining about something as inconsequential as \"he put a water bottle down\".", "Because one has to. He just said it. There's no choice.", "Not that many", "Seek help dave", "But so can a dentist. No one's making comments about how many dentists to serial killers.", "He’s quoting one of the men in the video.", "After you type that, and now read it, does it still make sense?", "You mean cops? The people who make up .002% of the population, but 40% of then are domestic abusers? And stalkers? Rapists? Groomers? Murderers?", "yes because it is definitely protocol to carry a bottle of water in one hand when you draw your weapon, bring the water into a crime scene, hold your weapon drawn haphazardly while pointing it at the back of all those in front of you, while reaching down to put your fucking trash in a crimescene.\n\nThey say Joey while he was already reaching to put the bottle in the scene.", "Cops can also pretty easily be serial killers on the clock.", "\"Rape is bad, I hope he gets raped for it\".", "why do you ask and how many CONEX do you have on your property?", "No bullshit but I have a theory the guy was a professional hitman. \n\nIf you ever read his interrogation where he talks about clearing the motorcycle shop. How efficient he was at taking everyone out solo. How hey killed Charlie. Kayla said he just turned around with a gun and put two into the guys chest. Highly efficient with guns. \n\nHe also said there’s more but he has no incentive to give up names because he’s already facing 100+ years. I think he’s a hitman who enjoyed killing so much he did it for fun. I think he only gave up the names of ones he knew they found.", "I like how the first word in the next comment down is \"Insanity.\" I hope it stays this way.", "Oh come now. It's ok to use statistics to back up your points when it comes to cops but not POC? Seems a bit silly, no?", ">Savage, but ain't thinkin' 'bout no bank account \nBut bitch I'm off the chain like Kala Brown", "How many storage containers did you use? 6?", "In case you aren't just making a joke, a Real Estate License.", "Why, he's nothing more than a common scofflaw!", "I hope you realize the US perpetrates violent imperialistic invasions that rape countries of their natural resources and infrastructure, and it just so happens when a country gets invaded for no reason it tends to cause people to want to leave it. It’s also not like the entire continent of Africa has been raped and robbed of nearly everything that these countries could base economies on, and then blame them for not functioning efficiently and with no corruption.\n\n\n\nYou make it obvious that you haven’t faced any sort of oppression, and wait to be told what to be scared of so you can live in total terror. It really seems like you’re living precariously through a the perceived homogeneous greatness of a country that gaslights and takes advantage of you at every chance they get. This is classic Stockholm Syndrome lol", "I mean in general yeah but I feel like the odds of a booby trap increases when you're on the property of a serial killer with a girl chained up in his sex slave container...", "He bargained for life in prison. killed at least 7 people", "It’s not like cops go out of their way to imprison people on misdemeanour drug charges, and other minor charges. And then those prisoners stay there because your lovely justice system and Attorney Generals say, “No, just because you had $10 worth of weed 40 years ago you can’t be let out yet.”\n\n\n\n\nDo you also think that when slavery ended that it ended in an absolute sense? Like no more slavery means no more systemic racism? And that no prolonged consequences could be in store for the group of people enslaved for hundreds of years?", "I would not feel any sympathy for him at all. Giving someone a taste of their own medicine is not a bad thing imo.\n\nHowever, I would quite happily settle for that poor lass deciding the punishment. And if she changes her mind in a year's time, then let her swap it to something else.", "“In my own backyard” is an expression that means “really close to me.” It did not literally happen on this person’s property behind their house.", "Seems like the perfect cover", "I just listened to a podcast about this guy today. Sure had a way with words on his Amazon reviews.", "51", "I learned about that in a story i read in elementary school. They didn’t mention it being cocaine, but I’m glad to finally know what it was!", "What why? Just because of this?", "regarding your last sentence, what happens when the body 'decides' to try catatonia?", "House in the Sky is the book. Great read but terrifying stuff", "Thanks, I forgot they mentioned a few on the podcast. Interesting https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/blacker-my-soul-alarming-amazon-reviews-linked-alleged-sc-killer-n679231", "or pepper spraying a 9 year old girl while she was handcuffed in the back of a patrol car", "[There you go](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/blacker-my-soul-alarming-amazon-reviews-linked-alleged-sc-killer-n679231) \nThe shovel one is a doozy.", "How weird. I just watched a documentary on this guy on YouTube. What a creep. I love how he portrayed himself as a kind of savior to these people until they tried to do him wrong. Even said she wanted to have sex with him and it was her idea.", "Expect a knock pretty soon ... followed by a flashbang.", "He served 15 years for the rape. Was charged as an adult.", "He's the Superbike killer too. That was a twist.", "Ok. Calling it catatonia isn't scientificly correct. But it's basically a complete shutdown of all response to external stimuli (except pain). They don't react if you talk to them or touch them or even if there is a burning car next to them. They're either completely shut down or the only thing they're doing is something nonsensical and repetitive.", "The difference between a cop and a dentist is that a dentist doesn't have any of the tools or resources that would make it easier* to get away with serial killing.", "Hey hey hey no need for that kind of attitude brother", "....the person goes catatonic", "Hol up", "Unfortunately this dude is a full blown adult. Probably votes too.", "That movie hit me hard, I wouldn't watch it again.", "Serial Killers do often find positions of Authority and Trust,\n\nIf you read up on Serial Killers, it is not at all unusual to find that, in addition to being a respected member of their community, were often regarded as relatively polite, or even friendly. \n\nA common phrase is \"It's always the quiet ones\", but Sociopaths can often be gregarious and outgoing. Tedd Bundy is one famous example of that. Ed Kemper is another example, and he was able to fool trained Psychiatrists in to believing that he was rehabilitated, and was regarded as non-threatening by many.\n\n Ed Kemper even applied to be a Police officer at one point, but was rejected, so the idea that some uncaught serial killers maybe law enforcement themselves isn't such a far-fetched idea.", "I noticed the guy with the towel. I understand needing to document it for evidence and I'll bet he was holding it out like that incase her clothes had been taken by that maniac. It's good to see that the victims dignity seemed to be of upmost importance to them", "\"Alright guys follow the red pepper trail, wherever you find the most red pepper, start digging. Give the dogs a day off\"", "or Green Room , which is pretty good.", "This response seemed unnecessarily rude in this context. No need for it really.", "I mean.. I’m not really sure how much they have to do with whatever you’re complaining about.. to me they’re just a strangely sticky vestige of a pre-information age paper based system of linking buyer with seller and don’t have much agency in contributing to the ills of inflated property values and rent slavery - if those are the evils you’re referencing.", "Your comment got me wondering about how she was found. \n\nTurns out she and her boyfriend were there to clean the kidnappers residence and went missing. So his residence was their last known location. The container is on the kidnappers property.\n\nIt took over 2 months for her to be found. Investigators traced her last cell phone signals which lead them to the container, where they could hear banging noises.\n\nIs it just me or is this timeframe disappointing? I’m guessing because it’s a couple, the search was delayed as people thought they’d ran away together or something?", "Yall reach and reach for any reason at all to shit on cops.", "Okay, but can we talk about the guy in red, 4 people back who pulls out his gun. Like what’s that gonna do buddy? You’re gonna shoot your own people in the back by accident. SMH", "Okay, bud.", "Money would be the biggest tool and dentists have plenty...", "Or conversely. Container gets opened and police get shot by unknown occupants. “Not one of these idiots had a gun out!?”", "Good - I thought it was much less.", "Honestly, I apologize my post was so rude. On my millionth attempt to stop smoking and definitely displaced some frustration. \n\nHope your doing well, sorry you got skewered for the previous comments. If it means anything your negative karma for a single comment caps at -20 or somthing. \n\nI'll give the podcast a listen tonight, who knows maybe I like it.", "Well it seems like they should have established that before walking into the storage container.", "I watched a whole thing on this guy. If I remember correctly she was held captive for 2-3 months. Not 100% though.", "Watch the interrogation video, this guy sure loves to talk and be a smartass.", "As somebody who was in a bad car accident all I can say is thank you. I'll never forget when the fire dept showed up and started talking to us. We were all freaking out and they were a really calming presence. Thank you.", "Weirdly, the two most common professions in the Capitol insurrection were cop, and...real estate agent. I think there really is something a bit odd about the people who do it.", "\"The Amazon Review Killer\" \n\nThese sensationalised titles are so fucking stupid", "No worries. Good luck to you. I highly recommend [Allen Carr's Easy Way to Stop Smoking](https://www.amazon.com/dp/0615482155/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_DV7QKWWZ4X078H4GHE1Z) \nJust to be clear, I’m also not Allen Carr. Lol", "yeah, the approach was definitely awkward. My favorite was the guy with the blanket holding it up in anticipation as the other man grinds the latches off. It's almost like he's expecting a captured animal to come charging out.", "It’s not violent but it’s weird how it feels like watching a a scene from movie but.. this is real life and tucked up. Especially having grown up in SC and recognizing the landscape and accents it has thrown me for a loop.", "Yeah.. maybe the deadly combo of being full of shit, knowing you’re full of shit, knowing everyone knows you’re full of shit, and being not just okay with but proud of all three. That was Todd all the time.", "Detectives do the actual legwork in cases like these. They may even have actual educational degrees as well! What a concept! But your average piggly wiggly is, in fact, an incompetent shit head who will choose violence above any and all other resolutions.", "Not zero, so that's atleast something positive", "I'm glad you feel that way, I don't.\n\nPeople that say something that is the total opposite of the truth with such conviction _never_ learn until they're confronted. Every time someone takes the direction you'd like, they're emboldened. I appreciate your candor and willingness to try to call me out, but I really don't care about what you're saying. A simple Google search would show that aiming your gun at the back of the two people who go in abreast, fully upright, with no cover and not looking at the situation weren't \"stacking\" and the maneuver wasn't \"totally appropriate\" - in fact is was tactically idiotic.\n\nWhat's unnecessary is people opening their uninformed mouths as if they know everything and being not just wrong, but again, the complete opposite of right.", "I think you are mistaken. The four murders got pinned on him after he was already arrested for murder and he confessed to them. The 15 years was when he raped the girl as a juvenile.", "Looks like you were the guy being the armchair psychologist lmao", "You fucking evil shithead let's understand something, we're not the fucking same. I'm not evil.\n\nI would exile INDIVIDUALS based on their actions. I'm good.\n\nYou would exile a RACE based on INDIVIDUAL actions. You're evil.\n\nIs that shit simple enough? If not, shut the fuck up and stop bothering me with your smarmy bullshit. You sound like a fucking idiot and nobody believes the santorum that comes out of your wordhole.", "I mean probably but that movie from 2015 has spectacular acting, so specifically that one", "I know that piece of shit from my job with SCDC. Should’ve been put to death.", "Ok for sure \n~~u /Mr.Carr~~\n u/ZaggagZillger", "I mean what’s that have to do with these cops though? I see a few Latinos in gangs so that means all of them are? How come you guys group all cops onto one category but fight against stereotyping elsewhere? It’s hypocritical", "Not sure if you’ve lost your mind or replied to the wrong comment", "\"Just hang loose,\" someone says...as she hangs there.", "I watched a 90 minute YouTube video about the guy who did this, Todd Colhep, and he's a real piece of shit(obviously), a textbook psychopath, narcissistic and all.", "Damn. We were so close to a confession…", "Because lots of them are.", "Who the fck converts a vertical video to horizontal????", "That would be be the, y'know, scheming.", "I'm not saying you're wrong in your point. You should correct his mistake.\n\nBut you're acting like an asshole. Which is very easy to do anonymously on the internet. That doesn't make it right.\n\nAgain, It's rude and completely unnecessary. The dude may have been wrong about what they said, sure, people make mistakes sometimes. But he just repeated what he knew, he was respectful. Correct him, don't use it as an excuse to just open up on verbal abuse.\n\nYou wouldn't talk to them this way in a real life situation.", "oh...", "Mr. K. Dilkington!", "Or did it?", "If I remember correctly the only reason she was found is because the dumbass used her phone on his property to make a post on her facebook saying \"my fiance and I are okay we moved to Mexico to get married don't look for us\"", "Thanks Alex Jones", "Close the deal, Gil!", "There have historically been a lot of seriel killers in some form of law enforcement. Turns out it's really easy to not get caught when you know exactly what you have to do to avoid suspicion and sometimes are even assigned the job of investigating your own crimes.\n\nThe golden state killer was actively murdering and raping victims for over 20 years while being a cop. He was only caught because police compared DNA taken from one of his crime scenes in the 80s to geneoligy data bases, found a distant relative of his who had used 23andme, and traced it back to him.", "Level-headed does not mean you are not suffering from psychological stressors\n\nIt means that despite those stressors you are behaving calmly and rationally, which she was\n\nShe remained level-headed. An example of someone not remaining level-headed would have been if she burst into tears and couldn't string a sentence together. Same stressors, different reaction.", "Not sure it’s possible to know that statistic given that most “missing” persons are not found.", "Yes. Even added “we’re pregnant” like that wouldn’t make people WANT to contact them more.", "Yo how much for one of those handkerchiefs", "Amanda Berry was held captive for 10 years along with 2 others before she escaped and got a neighbor to call the police.\n\nShe had a 6 year old daughter with her because her captor raped her.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nThis dude had 3 women locked up for 10 years! Its absolutely insane what could be out there.", "Revenge culture is a cancer and people like you, who are willing to abandon the foundation of universal human rights if the crime is just abhorrent enough, are responsible for unending amounts of suffering. The thinnest of threads seperates you from the mob that mutilates and burns criminals on the streets. \nYou sit there, self-righteously advocating state-sanctioned mortal torture and mutilation, cry for the complete dehumanization of a criminal because the crime is just bad enough, all for the sole shamelessly undisguised urge to tickle your sense of retribution. \nYou are not a hero if you call for the torture and death of someone who inflicted pain on others. All you do is make a terrible world worse, and prpagate the idea that we need laws that enable us to view selected humans as non-human. We know from tens of thousands of years that this is the very core of all evil, and the most rotten thing any society can do, no matter how just it feels. How can anyone still do this, in the year 2021?", "Never saw the trailer, only the film. But yeah, spoilers are no fun.", "Them realators always killing.", "ABSOLUTELY. \"Oh, hi Mark\". But that's why I put the 2015 there.", "It’s sad that this is the level of restraint we applaud. But yes, good job men. Dude in Orange pulls his pistol out after 6 men already enter the container… like, where’s your head at? you going to shoot into the container with those 6 ahead of you?", "Invite a ghost in? Totally haunted. Refuse a ghost? Also haunted.", "Lol. IKR. Infuriating", "True crime stuff in general consists mostly of taking what are real and awful tragedies and lazily repackaging them as an entertainment product that's lacking in both diligence or dignity.", "Why would a hitman kidnap people and keep them in storage containers?", ">snuggling Jewish people\n\nlmao", "I looked into this case. She lived because she went along with everything (sex mostly) and never upset her kidnapper. She even gave comments on what kind of lingerie he would like.\n\nAnother girl (part of a couple) kinda had a nervous breakdown so that upset him and he killed her.", "You are correct. He placed bear traps all around his property", "Both parties gotta be safe and it’s not far fetched to be so disoriented from two months of torture to not differentiate help from danger. The ppl on scene were aware of that.", "Even in these circumstances was what I meant.", "Haha wtf???", "A couple of months.", "Lady put the wall down!", "In America 1 person goes missing every minute on average", "Nothing like his father Ned that’s for sure", "Tbh the post sounded so sketchy that if one of my friends made it I would assume they were memeing", "I thought it was like 3000", "She didn’t have her back turned and she wasn’t sleeping.", "She was sobbing menacingly", "I think her hands are free. They are initially behind her head but I think it’s a “hands up” type thing. You can see books on the table. Appears that she was semi free to move around in there.", "Thank you.", "Thanks for that. I had a hard time hearing what she was saying. Man, if that were me I'd probably be too traumatized to talk let alone give such good coherent information.", "Am I the only one who loved my real estate agent?", "> Amanda Lindhout\n\nWhenever I see that name, I like to remind people that she rashly put herself in harm's way travelling in Somalia, allegedly doing journalism though she was largely unaffiliated with any publication. She travelled without security and was summarily kidnapped. \n\nShe and her cameraman suffered terribly for her shitty decisions, but I guess she got a book and speaking career out of it.\n\nEdit: it’s the rare time on Reddit when you get downvoted but most of the commenters seem to be agreeing with you.", "Using the flashlight on it", "I imagine this was less to 'catch' someone or something, and more to cover up a victim in case they weren't clothed after being found. Give the poor girl something to wrap up in so she isn't walking around naked after being rescued.", "The most sinus cleansing elements of that show is how much of it is based on this kind of dark dark shit....", "The thing is, we don't know any patterns or personalty traits among the ones who never get caught. It's a reasonable assumption that they fit into the same personality types, but it could be that they don't at all.", "Serial killers are often motivated by the power they have over their victims. Not hard to imagine why law enforcement would be an attractive career to someone like that.", "Here’s a video of the entire case including interrogation of the kidnapper / serial killer https://youtu.be/4GL8gk3b2L8", "There's the famous clip of a highway cop giving advice to lone women after one went missing.\n\nHe being the one that kidnapped and murdered her.\n\nOr more recently the London MET copper that kidnapped and murdered a young woman. He hired a car, had the kit, planned it down to the last detail. Seems that these two were spectaculary poor at being police in as far as they couldn't cover their crimes.", "[Did you eat ribs with him?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZcRU0Op5P4)", "And people who go to shady Asian massage parlors don’t even give a shit that the women are enslaved.", "Because he’s a sociopath", "Can you provide evidence that either being Latino is a choice or being a police officer is an unchanging part of who someone is from birth?\n\nBecause until you do, that counterpoint you made is the dumbest fucking thing I've read all day because the two things are completely different.", "Blowjobs apparently.", "On a total side, is the guy in the orange shirt .... Holding a pistol ...like that? And what's with his goofy water bottle drop? It isn't like they need to plant evidence, but it sure looks like dude was planting evidence.", "If you get so worked up about poverty statistics where's your anger at literally almost every red state? They're all welfare queens who take more than they give\n\nOr do you only care when you can use the statistics against minorities?", "Generally speaking, we as a society allow for a wider range of behaviour in art than we do in general life.\n\nWe allow gross depictions of violence and misogyny, homophobia, sexualised behaivour and the like in our movies, video games, paintings, poems, stories and sculptures, that far exceed what we'd expect to see in polite society.\n\nWhy should music be constrained from the same depictions? It's also a valid form of artistic expression.", "terrible ofc but happened as god wanted it :(", ">\tbeen reciting it for exactly this moment\n\nEvery second since she heard the angle grinder.", "What a lovely way to victim blame someone.", "Let’s victim blame more please", "That's a pretty normal statement to make about a lock.\n\nEDIT: That wasn't the full statement. The full statement was \"solid locks.. have 5 on a shipping container.. won't stop them.. but sure will slow them down til they are too old to care\". Yeah that's a lot different than \"it'll slow them down\".", "Number 3 will surprise you!", "There's a whole documentary. there's video of the cops in the Murderers house as they learn this info over the radio that there's a locked up girl and that he killed her boyfreind and arrest him.", "Here's one example:\n\n[Joseph James DeAngelo, the Golden State Killer](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_James_DeAngelo). At least 13 murders, over 50 rapes. Was a police officer during most of it.", "How are they different? Yeah one is a choice but you’re grouping every fucking cop into one thing. You’re the same type of bigot asshole who thinks every black person is criminal because they have the highest statistics. There’s no difference. Some of my friends are cops who aren’t dirty and I see how shitty it is for them when people hate them for no reason besides just being a cop. Fuck off POS", "[Joseph James DeAngelo](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_James_DeAngelo) \n \n >Joseph James DeAngelo Jr. (born November 8, 1945) is an American serial killer, serial rapist, burglar, and former police officer who committed at least 13 murders, 50 rapes, and 120 burglaries across California between 1974 and 1986. DeAngelo was responsible for at least three crime sprees throughout California, each of which spawned a different nickname in the press, before it became evident that they were committed by the same person.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( \| )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( \| )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( \| )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove \| v1.5)", "For real, what's with all this? I can't say I'm unbiased -- my mom is a real estate agent. She helps lots of people, many first-time buyers, find a home they like and that's affordable to them. She manages their expectations, watches out for ways they could get screwed, calms them down when they get nervous, and guides them through a complicated process.\n\nDemons in human skin?\n\nRealtors, like lawyers, don't deserve the hate they get. They're not all the same, they don't all do the same type of work.", "Yes and no. It’s reality unfortunately.", "Probably some reserve deputy goober and not an “actual cop”. It was a 95 acre property probably had all hands on deck.", "Dentists don't have guns. If a dentist killed someone in the chair, there would almost certainly be consequences. Cops kill in boad daylight on camera and get paid vacations.", "No", "So she deserved it because, Independent Journalist?", "We have a very different definition of levelheaded.\n\nLevelheaded, as least in my book, means that despite external stress you're thinking calmly and rationally.\n\nBehavior that seems calm and rational is not the same thing as internally calm and rational, and they warn you about that in training all the time. Because you should never be tricked into thinking \"they're fine, I don't have to keep my eye on them and can leave them here while I help with this other thing requiring my attention\", because the moment you take your eyes of them they might go and do something incredibly stupid (because they're on an internal script that is not really rational or even in touch with reality).\n\nA real example is for example a guy that had been in a car accident. He's responding to questions and seems calmetc, despite his injuries. It's a good thing that we kept an eye on him, because while most of the crew is off getting the driver out of the car he decides to get up and start walking down the road. \"I gotta get home. My clothes are a mess and I need to clean up.\". Perfectly rational, except for the fact that he's been in a car accident, he's in the middle of the countryside, he's probably bleeding internally (not enough to stiffen up the abdominal cavity, but he's been smashed up pretty good) and needs to go to a hospital. Since there was a \"babysitter\" (standard procedure, never leave a victim alone. Ever) we managed to rein him in and get him to sit down and wait for the ambulance (which arrived a minute later). But that's not an unusual reaction. They seem rational, but they're just simulating rationality because that's comforting.", "Sure. If someone runs in front of an active firing range and they get shot they are stupid and probably deserved it.", "Black girl though….all bets are off.", "What a fucked up scene...", "I knew a kid like that. Wouldn't be surprised if I heard his name in the news as a found out serial killer.", "Cops are not a race", "Way out of line!", "And access to anasthetics lol.", "Really good book from what I remember", "She had four armed security guards with her when she got kidnapped", "It’s almost like they have more experience than us 🧐", "What the fuck?", "Don't be a dick.", "Idiot.", "Because dumbass. Walk around a gang-infested area wearing a Rolex for additional insight.", "I tried but there is no cure for curiosity...", "Poking a bear with a stick carries the weight of being responsible for poking a bear with a stick. It's fucking Somalia.", "That got me crying", "The neighbor knew somethin was wrong when a white girl ran up to a black man", "Sexual purposes. He was a member of the local BDSM group.", "god (allmighty) allowed that to happen", "Speak for yourself bud I've been throwing blankets on people for years.", "I didn’t catch that, is it bad that I find this thread hilarious?", "Women. Not females. Women.\n\nEdit: I realize now he was quoting something. Anyone care to enlighten me?", "How you gonna name yourself after a gun and have a fuckin man bun?", "I mean the fucking Golden State Killer, one of the more known serial killers, was a goddamn cop. The idea that there are 50 serial killers active in the US and one of them isn't a cop seems unlikely, especially if they remain uncaught.", "Dead giveaway", "thats something serial killers would do tbh.", "A real knucklehead..", "Just go to a political subreddit and weep from the onslaught of horrible people lol.\n\n^i ^know ^i ^do", "lol how?", "if you drape raw steaks around your neck and walk into a lions' den, are you really a victim or just a stupid fuck?", "Dude couldn't handle his gixxer 750", "That’s likely to avoid demonetization by YouTube. You tube has weird censorship rules.", "So he made her an offer she couldn't refuse?", "He was a rapist. \n\nWhat I’m saying is… he is a serial killer who also got paid to contract kill. But his side hustle was kidnap rape and murder. And real estate.", "Hey somalias not that bad, depends on where she went tbh", "This girl is an absolute badass", "They’re used car salesmen, but richer. It’s a recipe for evil.", "Is German your first language or is there another reason you randomly capitalize non-proper nouns?", "Nope. Just kind of a bad quirk that never got corrected when I was young. It is now a habit of mine. A rather bad one.", "Fuck that, wow that’s scary", "Everyone in my area knows who the East Bound Strangler was and there's no way to prove it in court. Reason being they tried to tie him to all the murders at once and a copycat or accomplise did the same murder style while he had alibi but everyone knows he's the serial killer. \n\nThere was some shitty Stephen King/Johnny Depp movie about a serial killer and Everytime that fucker walks into a Wawa or whatever everyone is like fuck the hell off. Sick son of a bitch shows up to Catholic mass even though he's not Catholic to taunt the Priest in confession.", "That's a fucking insane thing to say, dude. This woman was tortured for months and your reaction is to say that it happened because your god wanted it to happen?", "I don't know. To me, he sounds like a scholar and a gentleman", "Pew, pew.", "I remember watching a video a while back of a black guy and his friends petting a small, adorable stray kitten in a parking lot. Suddenly one of them runs up and kicks the cat as hard as he can and it flies across the lot. I was disgusted. Am I now allowed to think all black people are bastards?", "Guilty pleasure?\n\nI can't with the political debates but i do frequent \"public freakouts\" for the same reason.. it's bad out there", "I'm in Duncan at work right now and live in Greer. Knew the owners of Superbike back when he killed them. Know other members of the BDSM group he was a part of.", "And in 10 years, you could not tell there was something wrong with him? I saw his picture when he was young in a truck and he clearly has psycho eyes.", "Imagine if this turned out to be real", "Still wanna defund the police?", "I hated our realtor but the realtor for the sellers was great. I think he knew our realtor was shit and he actually helped us through a few of our rough spots. She didn’t advocate for us at all. Our mortgage guy was good at calming us down (mostly had fears of losing our deposit if the loan didn’t go through. It was early COVId and lenders were putting in restrictions on loan amounts). If we were to ever move (hoping to retire in this house), I’d go with the guy who was the selling agent. After we moved in, we contacted him to arrange for the sellers to pick up stuff they forgot (a grill in the backyard and a drawer of cookbooks and kids craft books) and he was very nice.", "It's a quote", "He is quoting something lol\n\nEDIT: i know the quote from the tv show Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt, but i think that part was based off of a real video so maybe it originally comes from that video ? idk for sure", "It's Spartanburg county sheriffs office, no one's expecting professionalism and competence.", "Talk about a ghost behind its bacl. Haunted.", "You have to elaborate. Did he seem completely normal in interactions?", "Or being the embodiment of the law and authority to use deadly force if you alone FEEL the need. That's a decent tool of the trade if you think about it right?\n\nBut dentists do have all those sharp tools and laughing gas. Hmmm and they have keys to the building so privacy. Man this is really hard.", "Could have been for a class or whatever.", "You didn't. Obviously they understand the differences between the responsibilities of cops and dentists. Their point was that it's an arbitrary suspicion.\n\nBut actually, it's likely worse than arbitrary, since police work by and large attracts people who have a strong affirmative belief in law and order and justice—far more than dentistry does.\n\nWild that I needed to say that, right?", "Definitely no way to hide a tripline in there at all! Why just have one casualty when you can have 6!", "No way. That’s insane! Did he seem normal to you?", "You're right, some/all of ya really aren't that bad at all", "Bro respect other people's culture and religion! \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n/s", "Great lock that ‘slows them down’ is jokey but ‘til they’re too old to care’ jumps out as disturbingly dark. If I read that randomly I’d legit pause and wonder what psycho wrote it lol", "To be fair, psychology trained or not is just a guessing game based on previous observations. Fooling any given professional is not impressive and is just a part of mythologizing the sort of genius killer trope.", "die and become a ghost? Haunted.", "Joseph DeAngelo was a cop prior to his serial killing career. [EDIT: See nitpicker below for more details.]\n\nhttps://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-golden-state-cops-20180501-story.html\n\nThere's a lot of serial killers who flat out start in positions of power which let's them have special priveleges. There was also a doctor who killed hundreds in his life and got hired in many different places by just claiming to be a doctor. \n\nhttps://www.dispatch.com/picture-gallery/news/local/2019/01/28/photos-the-infamous-dr-michael/519646007/\n\nJohn Wayne Gacy was very popular in his community and well known by both standard people and political elites. \n\nThere is a legitimate question of how many people are abusing their powers and priveleges to kill innocent people, *especially* now that we have a very firm grasp and knowledge of how many police who abuse those they arrest and kill them.", "Yep. But you actually know what it means, and aren’t just parroting a stupid GOP talking point, right?", "We can't actually observe..really anything about the mind and usually about the body either by eye. This is why we get police saying wrongfully accused people are stone cold killers because they didn't cry or get angry or whatever. Which is nonsense.", "The movie literally opens with like three back to back sex scenes it's incomprehensible", "For the record, that's not consent in case anyone needed to know.", "Summarily should be subsequently\n\nAlthough summarily might work if it was something else, kidnapping usually doesn't have formalities so lacking them wouldn't really be unusual", "My comment wasn’t really meant to be a defense of the “Genius killer”, but pointing out that killers often do no come across as killers at first glance. Especially serial killers in the sense that we usually think of them. It’s not impossible to imagine that a serial killer could be in the ranks of law enforcement, especially since it is a position of power, trust and authority that some of them tend to gravitate to.", "Not enough.", "And 95% of those are runaways that eventually turn up again. About 0.8% are abducted by a non-custodial parent and 0.1% are abducted by strangers.\n\nThis is a really good example of how data can be misused and why you should never make your mind up about somet after hearing one random statistic.", "If I throw a dart straight up and it falls and sticks into my head, feel free to lay some blame at my feet", "How fucking DARE he drink water. Who does he think he is, some kind of person who must drink water to survive?! Yeah, right! How dare he not abide by protocol by drinking water from a bottle, everybody knows that the protocol is all dirty pigs must drink dirty mud water from a pig trough like the dirty pigs they are.\n\nYour mental gymnastics are very entertaining to watch.", "That's why they didn't send in the bears", "She wasn't exactly alone, but she didn't have armed security guards with her either, according to ye olde wiki:\n\n> On August 23, 2008, two days after having arrived in Mogadishu, Amanda Lindhout and Nigel Brennan, a 37-year-old freelance Australian photojournalist from Brisbane, were kidnapped along with their Somali translator, Abdifatah Mohammed Elmi, their driver, Mahad Isse, and a driver from the Shamo Hotel, Marwali. They were on their way to conduct interviews at an internally displaced person (IDP) camp when they were stopped by gunmen.", "He actually had a bunch set up around the property...", "Are you really that dense?", "Logically underated comment", "How do you know? Maybe God didn't want it but he was busy protecting a pedophile priest that day and couldn't intervene", "It's a pretty good interview if you're into this kinda thing. Dude's a major narcissist, just happy he can finally brag to someone new, and the cops listen like he's their super cool buddy while he makes their case as easy as possible.", "Flash bang you say.", "Based on what? You got access to info that the FBI doesn't?", "Thanks for confirming that you're one of the idiots who thinks defunding the police = actually lowering their budget to $0", "Whaaat? Could you give any details of your interaction with him?\n\nWas he weird in any way?", "So I'm not the only one whose recommendations gave me this?", "Fairly certain you're just feeding the troll.", "So your evidence is that he shot people? Strong stuff, bud", "Nah, saying female is widely considered degrading unless it's being used in a medical context. Also, they didn't know what they were walking into. They were going on a serial killers word that it was just the woman in there.", "They ate ribs with that dude", "Namus estimates 2700 a year are never found and 4400 bodies a year are found and not identified. So I'd guess there are alot of people locked in weirdos homemade dungeons as we speak", "Not my god, but the very same god that loved mankind so much that gave his only son for your sins. \n\nEverything happens according to his will, for he is omnipotent and allmighty.\n\nThis may sound strange to you but you should not grief but only rejoice. For he is the truth.", "We eat ribs with this dude! But we didn’t have a clue", "god is everywhere and all the time, protecting pedophiles and even giving Aids to babies.\n\nBut fear not, everything has happened and will happen as he wants.", "Serial killers trapping people isn't remotely rare, wtf you on about?", "I'm from Pittsburgh...", "They’re only temporarily good", "I don't think it's so much the searching part of it; that's just a small service, man-hours sifting through possible matches.\n\nI think the bigger service comes in writing up offers, considering options for unconventional loans that might make the deal work or an escalation clause when you know other people might be submitting offers as well, understanding counter offers & how to negotiate, what to expect from inspections and what's fair to ask for, etc. \n\nGoogle can probably provide tips and tricks but it's rarely going to be location-specific, which an experienced realtor can also help with. \"Houses from this era/neighborhood often have this problem,\" \"The company that makes this electric box has a reputation for X\" \"Local zoning laws won't allow for that conversion you'd need\" etc, etc. Realtors can tackle those really odd problems that could make a whole deal go up in smoke.\n\nMy mom had a deal not long ago (and I'm not going to be the best at explaining it) where a lot had two houses connected with a deck which at the time (80s) could be zoned as a duplex, so it was. Later it was changed to a tandem, meaning the two properties could be sold separately. Then the owners detached the two houses and both lots sold to different owners without any appraisers realizing that by detaching them they were no longer legally zoned, and while her buyer was interested in one lot, the two lots would either have to be sold to the same owner and combined or they'd have to come to a deal with the other owner that it was in their best interest to join them in a remodel that would make them legally tandem again.\n\nIt was a whole mess. Basically my mom coached the buyers through their options and the negotiations and what they could expect the costs/process to be in any scenario.", "Just out of curiosity is there a source on this? Not saying you are wrong just want to see the stats.", ".", "well, duh", "Intriguing new D&D Alignment.", "Price is Right rules", "What a bummer that he didn’t develop a hemorrhage in his brain once beaten. A whole lot of suffering would’ve been prevented had he just stroked out and died", "I know; I’m bruised and broken out there, but I can’t help myself lol", "I think it's like any profession. When I had to deal with unemployment issues when COVID first started, I delt with a couple crappy people, a meh person, and one lovely, magical person who listened and solved all my problems.", "That's an oddly specific and direct increase. Where were you the knight of the 15th?", "WEARING\n\nSKINs", "Sounds like they should have just lynched him and been done with it before he was big enough to harm more people tbh", "I couldn't tell if they were police or not. They just carelessly charge in there without checking for traps and all together don't seem really professional in the least.", "Such a stupid comment.", "Why would they shoot her? She's not black.", "I think it is that 1 per state just seems kinda low. I would personally expect a figure of around 2.5 per state.", "Just don't give them too much - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDilL5cQ2Jw&t=25s", "Reminds me of the Carlin bit about serial killers being highly motivated", "A flash AND a bang??", "Holy shit that's crazy. I wonder if anyone has ever tried searching Amazon reviews for sketchy reviews like this serial killer posted. Could other murderers be psychopathic enough to also leave demented reviews? I bet a programmer could write something that would scan reviews for alarming phrases and words", "You got some big testicles to pull this off bro", "What a dumbass comment. I'm sure Kala Brown will share your sentiment.", "Go on...", ">One has to wonder how many of these uncaught killers work for law enforcement.\n\nOr in hospitals. The most successful serial killers in modern US and western European history have all been nurses or doctors.", "If you wanted to become a serial killer without consequences, becoming a cop would be a pretty good plan, in the US at least.", "One", "Amanda Lindhout is from my neck of the woods and I've had the pleasure of meeting her a couple of times. And each time I've had to hold back tears just thinking about what she went through. She's a remarkable human being.", "I've a seen documentary about this. Dude was crazy asf.", "Really fucking annoying to hear \"Do you have any weapons?\" first thing. I'd be annoyed to hear the perp described as \"your buddy\" too.", "Real estate agents have a lot of time on their hands and in a hot market every Tom, Dick, and Jane think they can quit their day job and become a successful realtor. Doesn't surprise me at all.", "just hang loose\n\nWhat else was she going to do?!", "He was basically just kind of a Trump kind of guy, real big headed and loved to talk about himself at length. Effable enough that we just kind of got a kick from the whole thing and would laugh about it. We knew he was not normal but had no idea he was a killer. You can meet crazy people out there in the world and you tend to give people the benefit of the doubt if they have charisma and he does.", "I know a girl who got kidnapped and held prisoner for about 6 months.\n\nI'd say it was 'lucky' that the guy was just a rapist, and not a rapist/murderer, but... it's kind of one of those times where the word 'luck' doesn't fit.\n\nApparently her family disowned her for the experience, because he was well known to them and she was the black sheep of the family, so... they sided with him and didn't believe her side of the story. They felt she must have stayed there willingly. She didn't.\n\nJust one of those stories that never got recorded as anything, because she didn't want to go through the legal system in a state known to not take rape cases seriously, let alone deal with the complexities of what she went through. Not really surprising when even her own family sided with him over her... shit situation =/", "I really hope nobody will learn anything new from this comment.", "It's always pathetic to see people knocking cops while you hide behind a screen. If that was your sister, you wouldn't insult them like that. Without doubt, if you were in trouble, you'd call 911 and be glad to see flashing lights. But crouched in the dark corner of a small room behind a cloak of anonymity, you're happy to take the cheap shots for worthless upvotes.", "Not at all. We knew he was crazy but not that kind of crazy. He has a disarming charisma.", "He’s not my buddy, guy", "Poop in a bucket", "“We are the police”…?", "anything black", ">Yeah.. maybe the deadly combo of being full of shit, knowing you’re full of shit, knowing everyone knows you’re full of shit, and being not just okay with but proud of all three. That was Todd all the time.\n\nMy realtor was the least-pressure guy ever. Answered my questions for months, never asked for a contract, and was just genuinely helpful. There are good people out there. He's an avid Redditor so maybe that's part of it haha.", "I guess that applies to America too, if you go there you are just asking to be shot by police or beaten by a mob.\n\nIf you think I'm saying that out of ignorance of American then I ask you to show that you know more of Somalia than I know about America.", "Reminds me of the movie 'Room'", "Dude just stole this comment from the YouTube comments smh", "Genuinely one of the most unexpectedly hilarious things I've heard all week.", "Check out Little Stinkers!!!!", "I like how in cop shows they wear uniforms and in real life they just look like a bunch of truckers.", "It's weird to read \"one is too many\" when advocating for capital punishment, which has been meted out to many people who were posthumously proved innocent. Seems like \"one is too many\" be applied when considering whether the state should be killing anyone.", "owner of the NE patriots has left the chat.", "well damn your humor is dark", "There are hundreds of people being held like this probably. Humans are an awful species.", "That's an incorrect equivilance. Human trafficking is horrific, but isn't the same as this kidnapping event. She was tied to a wall after being kidnapped, trafficking is different.\n\nMost human trafficked people are from foreign countries and are paid almost slavery wages or placed under controlled conditions and told that they are unable to go to authorities, or that their families will be punished.\n\nMaking equivilancies only helps groups that distract from real trafficking like Qanon. The victims of trafficking are working in brothels and working in farm fields. To say that it's situations like this moves work from the actual victims of trafficking and toward mythical scenarios like that hundreds of thousands of children are kidnapped every year in America and used as sex slaves.", "I was like “damn I just learned about that yesterday and randomly it appears on Reddit?” \n\nThen I realized that the kind of people who use Reddit are the kind of people to watch Wendigoon deep dive serial killer icebergs, and considering it was posted less than a week ago this person probably got interested in this case after watching his video too.", "I don’t think Reddit or the world is as “liberal” as you’d think lol.", "I just started thr book and she is amazing", "If they didn't kill innocent people and then hide behind a blue wall of silence and protection the jokes wouldn't be made.", "Just read the killer's wiki. He was wealthy enough to buy the land for $300k with an $80k fence. This specific situation is definitely gatekept by at least that level of wealth.", "Yeah, they caught the asshole red-handed, look at the evidence, nobody had to plant anything on this asshole. The police also planted the three bodies barried outside of this container. One hell of a waterbottle.", "Stay away from the west side!", "because of the implication", "It's like a flash mob but usual of mobbing there is banging.", "\"On November 3, Brown was found by authorities, chained to the wall inside a metal storage container on the property. Investigators had tracked her down after tracing the couple's (Brown and her boyfriend) last known cellphone signals, after which they heard banging noises coming from inside the container.\"\n\nFrom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd_Kohlhepp", "Hell yes", "Right on.", "Bot", "Deputies. Not cops", "I've never seen a duty officer take an action that is remotely fascist. The DOJ? sure. Reddit? Absolutely. The Democratic party? Ever day. Big tech and media? It's their bread and butter. But never a cop.", "Its proper to hydrate when someone is cutting through a locked shipping container. They get it open guy has water because hot, he drops it and draws weapon.", "It's from the intro sequence to Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt, which is a sitcom about a girl who was kept captive (along with several other girls) in an underground bunker for 15 years by a guy running a doomsday cult. The premise of the show is that she's rescued and then moves to NYC and has no idea how modern life works because she's been in bunker for so long. It's a super weird concept but the show itself was actually really good.\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unbreakable_Kimmy_Schmidt", "“You don’t know how it feels to be a cop! At any moment the monster in the closet could pop out at you like they said at academy!!” /s", "There is no source. He’s a troll.", ".....until today", "It was based on the arrest records but it seems fair to assume they were not unrepresentative. Forgot that ex army was another big part. Now v hard to Google because of that one particularly stupid realtor literally bragged that she wouldn't go to jail because she was a white woman.", "Lol I get why you would think that but likely they were unprepared to enter the dark container and their guns had lights.", ">You’re the same type of bigot asshole who thinks every black person is criminal because they have the highest statistics.\n\nNo, I don't generalize based on unchangeable characteristics. I generalize based on actions and beliefs. Things that you do, not who you are. You're more than welcome to pour through my post history to try and prove me wrong. \n\nWhen an entire group of people are doing these things over and over and they keep protecting one another and inhibiting justice, they are all bastards. We just had an entire year of police shooting people who were asking them to use less force. It is impossible for a cop to be a good person after that, because if they were a good person they would have left.", "I thought perhaps when she said \"red pepper could ruin the dogs\" it might mean if the dogs smell it it might overwhelm their ability to track scent, but just a guess.", "Like entering any other space. Announce their presence while they are still outside then ask her the same questions they did after they had entered.", "This was 45inutes from me. Wild shit. Knew people that lived down the road", "is it a chocolate babka", "She does seem remarkably composed, immensely strong willpower, this woman has.", "So, like 3 min? lol I think a little longer than that.", "Yeah, when an old friend told me about his murder arrests I was just all, \"yep, sounds about right.\"", "Sure. I agree.\n\nWhat I'm saying is that if they aren't sure whether she is armed or not, why didn't they make sure it was safe for them to enter before they went in?", "It is astronomical how lucky she was to be alive after being taken. If anyone accosts you and attempts to take you to a second location. Resist with all of your life because the odds get so much worse once you're moved.", "You are constantly drilled on not contaminating a crime scene, it should be second nature to not put any object on your person anywhere in the vicinity.", "Is you assertion that all of the unfound people are locked in dungeons and the 4400 unidentified bodies are from \"weirdoes homemade dungeons\"?", "You mean Robert Kraft? The billionaire who supports human trafficking Robert Kraft? \n \nIt should also be known that charges were dropped against Kraft due to \"lack of evidence\" yet the court threw out the fucking video tape of him committing sex acts with trafficked women. \n \nFuck Robert Kraft, fuck the Patriots, and fuck any fan that still supports that football team.", "only on reddit lmfao", "Ok, good explanation, what I described is more the appearance of being level-headed as opposed to actually being so.", "I live in the county this happened. Thought you should know", "Fucking A.", "Not a flash bang then a knock?", "so if he was junior high school, how old was he then.", "What about him putting reviews on things he'd bought and what he used them for. Example on a shovel he wrote \"good to keep in the car for when you have to bury the bodies\"", "Grow up", "> Jefe: But could it be that, once again... you are angry at something else... and are looking to take it out on me?\n\n> El Guapo: Like what, Jefe?\n\n> Jefe: Could it be because you are turning 40 today?\n\n> El Guapo: No!\n\n> Jefe: Could it be because Carmen chooses to sleep in her cell instead of with you?\n\n> El Guapo: Ehhhh...\n\n> Jefe: Why don't you just take her? When you want cattle, you take the cattle.\n\n> Jefe: When you want food, you take the food.\n\n> Jefe: When you want a woman... you just take the woman.\n\n> Jefe: Why don't you just take her?\n\n> El Guapo: Jefe, you do not understand women! You cannot force open the petals of a flower. When the flower is ready, it opens itself up to you.\n\n> Jefe: When do you think Carmen ... will open up her flower to you?\n\n> El Guapo: Tonight, or I will kill her.", "I saw this years ago and it still haunts me.", "Most are probably lost in the woods or washed away in water. Who knows, that's what being lost is, we don't know. The original question was if this happens alot, and I'd be willing to bet it happens more then we would like to think", "In a country of 320 million people, any insane scenario you could concoct in your head is currently more than 1.", "Because they are trying to rescue someone who has been held captive by a murderer/rapists?", "Lucky this guy was a dumb piece of shit who was given too many chances by the system rather than anyone with real intelligence.\n\nThey just never catch those killers.", "Wonder if this could work for coyotes.", "No kidding. I was expecting her to completely break down at the sight of the officers. Instead she’s super chill and just like, “what do you want to know? I’ll tell you everything”", "Don't know what your definition of growing up is.\n\nActual grown ups are capable of communicating in a healthy way.", "Ridiculous, completely ridiculous. Can you believe these characters? Way outta line.", "> My favorite was the guy with the blanket holding it up in anticipation as the other man grinds the latches off.\n\nEmphasis added. They're talking about him holding up the blanket while they're still outside trying to get the thing open. He does have eyes, but I'm guessing his eyes don't have Superman's x-ray vision to see through the container.", "My first realtor as a FTHB was shady as fuck. \n\nMy current agent is very chill and supportive. Very low pressure, at my specific request, to the point I may have missed a deal because she intentionally didn't push me much on it out of respect for my wish not to be rushed. \n\nSince then I started listening to her more lol and now I'm under contract for a nice house. And she talked me out of paying more than necessary even though it could have raised her commission. And when i move out of my current house she offered to rep if I want to sell or refer me to someone she knows who handles rental property management, and she is helpful and willing to answer questions whichever way I decide to go on it.", "ghe day", "i mean, what else are you gonna do?", "Everything about that was done wrong. They didn't check for booby traps, they crowded the area thoughtlessly, the guy in the back was the only one with a gun out.\n\nCome on now.", "So are you saying that \"both parties gotta be safe\" or not? It's going to take the same amount of net time to ask the questions before entering as after entering but asking after leaving cover puts them at far more risk.", "My friend that I taught with went to church with him. Her church friends tried to set them up on a date. She said NOOOOO because he was creepy AF.", "It's like somehow people don't realize that the things that are happening now are happening in the system that doesn't work.", "To somehow learn to live with it anyways", "He's not my guy, friend", "He's really beyond the pale. I mean, come on.", "I must have missed the part where those cops shot innocent people.", "I live about 3 minutes from where this piece of shit lived when he got arrested. A friend who hosted parties a good bit lived directly across from him, and I’ve seen the police videos of him standing in that doorway while they were questioning him before they found Kala in that container, so I know it’s the same place.\n\nWe would park in the drive way of that house since we knew no one would care. It took several years to get anyone new into that house, and I really wonder if they know its history.\n\nA coworker told me just yesterday she’s friends with one of Kala’s friends and Kala isn’t doing so well. She’s apparently had it pretty hard her whole life, and she’s (understandably) had a lot of emotional issues since this. It sickens me to hear this because nobody deserves to be treated like that, and Kolhepp is probably just fine in prison.", "Would you kill hitler in the cradle?", "What the hell is wrong with you", "Wtf are you even on about dude.? this video is pretty self explanatory", "I watched it on mushrooms at a friends recommendation recently and it was actually pretty good lmao\n\nWe watched Good Time after that and that was also pretty good", "Are you 12?", "Lots of armchair cops in this thread I see", "Guys she’s strong willed definitely but most of this video is her showing a severe trauma response.", "Yes and then you watched a video of cops saving a woman’s life. \n\nInteresting that you chose the second one as just a one off.", "Need a new shovel and suddenly the \"other people bought these items too!\" Rope, duct tape, tarp.", "Good lord Reddit is intolerable sometimes", "It's amazing how many veteran cops there are in this thread that have the experience to make such a detailed assessment of the video. Such a weird coincidence", "These people have no idea what police do every single day. Their whole world view is Twitter", "Like ctrl+c, ctrl+v same? Or \"it'll be a shot for shot as close to the first scene as we can manage\" same?", "Your getting downvoted for celebrating the police who found a woman kidnapped by a serial killer?\n\nFucking hell Reddit is sickening", "So maybe their go-to should be a flashlight and not a killing tool.", "You're 13. You have no idea what you're talking about", "How and why do you know members of a BDSM group? That doesn’t seem like something most BDSM members advertise, unless you’re looking.", "Delusional", "Reddit", "What are you on about? You said yourself that they need to protect themselves in case she is armed. It makes no sense to check if someone is armed after leaving cover.\n\n<walks out from behind the steel door> \"Hey do you have any weap...\" BANG! Not sure why you don't understand how that works when you're the one saying they need to be safe.", "Those specific ones didn't. But blue wall of silence and a history of cops shooting innocent people because \"they got scared\" has people distrusting every cop.\n\nDo I really need to spell this one out for you?", "How does everyone know? Sorry I'm just picturing some frustrated dude who can't get anyone to believe he's innocent despite a rock solid alibi on more than one occasion lol", "Or maybe you spend too much time on the internet and it has created a bias in your head.", "To me, these are mutually inclusive.", "Well... I mean, you're not wrong.", "how would you suggest doing that with a sealed container", "Some have called for it.", "Yeah but dEfUnD tHe PoLiCe", "Oh so the cops in my town are murders? The ones you and I know nothing about? \n\nOh okay that make sense.", "i guess it's never fascism if you agree with it eh", "It's also common practice to wrap up someone who's gone through something traumatic. It's comforting, just like swaddling a baby.", "That cover definitely looks very familiar. I hope there is some facts to my claim and I'm not remembering fiction 😬 \n\nEdit:\nI did a little bit of research and it looks like it actually happened. Some of the Danish sailors had to be payed to smuggle the families out, which they drew a lot of ire from the community after the war", "This makes me think of Melissa McCormick. Back in 1976, she went into the States (from Windsor, Ontario, Canada), and was abducted after getting a flat tire. A group of men raped her over several hours, but eventually just let her go. \n\nShe came and talked about her life in one of my university classes. \n\nhttps://themediaplex.com/freeway-gang-rape-victim-writes-of-crime-that-stunned-detroit-in-1976/\n\nThere's a short movie about it too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SSggoZHEf4", "It isn't. Had an ex that was part of the same group, have hung out with others in the group occasionally. It's not something they advertised but since I was BDSM adjacent, everyone felt comfortable being themselves around me. Of course, then there are the types of people that would actually wear SC LOCK t shirts out in public.", "I think this is exactly what it is, the channel is owned by a separate guy that researches, edits and writes all of the videos, and he has this voice actor do all the narration.", "> and don’t have much agency in contributing to the ills of inflated property values and rent slavery\n\nwish that were teh case out here. they play off each other convincing the buyers to offer 50k+ over asking price so they all get a bigger pay day. \n\nuseless fuckign vampires if you ask me", "Dont say shit like that an not link, fam", "seriously. she came ready with the facts at the drop of a hat. none of this emotion shit, let's get the fucker.", "So in your reality…. someone breaks into your house, you’d rather not call the cops cuz your worried they kill you? You’d rather take your chances with the guy in the ski mask? That’s what you’re saying? \n\nYea that doesn’t sound like a fantasy at all.", "Has everyone in this fuckin thread run into this freak at some point in their life?", "> You can’t have true empathy for a situation you haven’t been in.\n> \n> \n\nYes you can. That's the point of empathy. Basing your \"empathy\" off your experience isn't empathy. It's relating. Not that this is a bad thing but empathy is literally trying to put yourself in someone else's shoes through their means/history/experience.", ">Snuggling jewish people sounds more fun but less heroic.\n\nIt's also one of the less efficient ways to use them for warmth", "Definition of fascism according to webster\n\nA political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition\n\n\nCan't seem to fit \"Being a shitty cop\" in there.", "Wow, you can't just call everyone you disagree with a jerk.", "Well, who is it?", "'80s laugh track", "i know better than to have this argument with the absolute freaks on reddit man, you and i both know what i am referring to is a few stops above \"just a shitty cop\"", "More than likely just replaying that same sentence in her head waiting for some hope", "I think your spot on. I literally just watched a documentary on this case like 3 days ago and its been on my mind because it’s so eerie but I think you’re theory answers why.", "Are we going to hurt these women?", "That is the best movie I’ll never watch again", "Thank you for making me laugh in this very dark thread", "Hundreds of thousands? Really?", "It wasnt a \"grabbed and pulled into a van\" sorta thing like some folks often imagine, either. He stopped Sarah Everard using his police credentials and made her believe she was under arrest. And then the MET had the audacity to say that if women ever found themselves in a similar situation, they should just flag down a bus driver for help. Fuckin nuts.", "Neither is poverty. And that's the real reason why black people are disproportionately affected by nearly every facet of our society when weighted for it.", ">police work by and large attracts people who have a strong affirmative belief in law and order and justice\n\nI think you missed a /s at the end", "Figure of speech, I think they handled it well. Tried to keep her calm.", "His name is... John Doe.", "Thank god you're not in charge of emergency services", "Or dead.", "If I recall, didn't that monster kill himself like 5 days into his jail stint? Or was the one of the other guys secretly holding women prisoner in their homes? Seriously, how are there so many sick fucks out there? How many Kalas are out there right now waiting to be found?", "And everyone's still pretending like that wasn't the intention.\n\nThey can wipe the egg from their face but we can still smell it", "Shh or Netflix and Hulu will ban those episodes too", "Fucking seriously? This is a prime example of cops doing their job and not the rare exception of the shitty ones. I hope when you call 911 when you really need it you get a busy signal. Fuck you and the 1131 people that upvoted you.\n\nFucking bring it with the downvotes", "A bit of a rascal", "Mine was awesome too. He dressed nice but wore tennis shoes. He'd be the first to check crawl spaces and stuff to make sure there weren't leaks, foundation issues, etc. He was more than happy to tell me a house wasn't worth buying, and by experience noticed stuff I wouldn't. When I got a counter offer he considered insulting, he told me so and we moved on.\n\n\nMy current one sits near-ish a water treatment plant, although hardly noticeable and only sometimes. He tried to talk me out at first but was more than happy to go forward when i disagreed. \n\n\nHe's followed up several times, since.", "You think that way about every group who dresses kinda similar? Maybe looks pretty similar? Maybe belong to a similar culture?", "After their ordeal they deserved a little snuggle if they want (a hug, not assault)", "Hey, we aren't all bad. Just 95% or so :(.", "Our kids read that in middle school.", "It was a bubba fest. No words of comfort, sympathy, or support. They didn't get a female officer in there ASAP. They could have compounded the PTSD this woman is sure to have.", "Getting an RE license is easy in any state. It's a fairly low bar to get into the profession.", "So what you're saying is we have a shot?", "That looks like a secondary location, so probably very low.", "oh, the emotion comes later in the form of ptsd", "That has nothing to do with your logical fallacy in thinking simple anecdotal evidence means there's a tendency.", "My dude, this comment doesn't strike you as way too much identifying information? You know there's serial killers around, right?", "The former.", "After this case I’ve thought about that frequently. I drove by this guys house multiple times on my way to a friends house and saw these containers. How many times have I driven or walked by something horrifying that was just hidden by a thin wall or line of trees. Scary to think about.", "> Only two years later, he killed four employees at Superbike Motorsports after they rubbed him the wrong way following his purchase of a Suzuki motorcycle.\n\nHow the fuck did he not get caught for that?!", "What", "Well, that made me really sad.", "I don't think these people realize these monsters are not born like this, they are created, and the monsters that created them are created as well. It's like with child soldiers.\n\nWe will figure it out someday, either way I think locking him up in prison for 12 years at the age of 15 wasn't helping, either you keep him in prison for life or you rehabilitate them, that mind is still developing.\n\nIt's also very striking he had an IQ of 118, most offenders like this aren't very smart, that means he was smart enough to know what his behaviour was doing to him and to others.\n\nHe thought he was on a highway to hell from early on, and someone or something convinced him there was no way back.", "She had to repress all emotion to survive this ordeal. As mentioned, if she got upset, he'd retaliate and likely kill her. Strong as hell.", "The 'your buddy's was in reference to her boyfriend, Charles Carver, who had already been murdered by that point. That was pretty clear from the video.", "He is still Alive. Also, a disturbing amount of Kalas", "As a realtor and a redditor, I was sweating reading this thread lol… although, as a realtor, I completely understand that some realtors ruin the reputation of the whole lot", "Amazon Review Killer", "Wasn't she addicted to heroin and was withdrawing and flipped out?", "Seems like if 'everyone knew' you'd have at least one family member take care of the problem in private.", "Absolutely, I would not deny anyone a snuggle after that", "She at least heard them coming for a few minutes, was able to prepare.", "Can you imagine how many missing people are going through this right now.", "Junior high school is usually 12-14. He was 15 when he went to prison.", "I've had the same online name since before most of Reddit was born. This isn't going to be the comment that doxxes me. (I did check to make sure I wasn't on my alt though)", "Agreed that \"your buddy\" was poor phrasing, but it was referencing her boyfriend that had been murdered, not the perp", "What's that docs name??", "quite the goofball", "Street fightin man!Geeeeee Sevennnnn", "Putting a sealed water bottle down on a chair is not contaminating a crime scene. By your ass backwards logic, they aren't even allowed to walk inside the storage container because they'd be leaving footprints, or perhaps even carrying a bit of dirt or grass on the bottom of their shoes into the storage container, which would contaminate the crime scene.", "The fact that she could hold her composure long enough to tell those cops exactly what they needed to hear before getting shufffled away is amazing", "I've lived in a lot of different states and that's been a common phrase I've heard a lot.", "Foolproof! Her captor would never have thought of such ingenious thinkery!", "Lmao none of these guys are in full uniform. They don't have flash lights on them as they likely were not expecting to clear containers but you know what a cop has to carry with them at all time when on duty? THEIR GUN!", "Lol i thought looking at his profile would help..wtf??? Hahaha", "Jesus fucking Christ man.", "ThAt'S rAcIsT toWaRdS cOpS", "Nope.\n\nBlind bigotry against cops doesn't make you a good person, FYI. Just the opposite.", "I don't know if this is a joke but he gives me neckbeard vibes for sure.", "It’s estimated about 25 million sex trafficking victims exist worldwide. That’s a lot of Kalas", "Wow. This some real life James Patterson kiss the girls type shit.", "Shit like that is easy to say sure, but most people don't nut up like that in real life", "https://youtu.be/4GL8gk3b2L8", "There's more than 50. That's just not correct. Lots of serial killers are truckers who can move about the country freely and murder at random. We could never catch these people.", "Give it a few years. A certain profession attracts more bloodthirsty egotistical physchopaths than others.", "This makes me sick to my stomach.", "Bro... Did you even read the whole thing or did you just skip to the end", "Nice one", "Probably a reserve deputy and not an actual cop. 95 acre compound. Probably all hands on deck", "There was a shooting. The kids name was Oscar grant. It was ruled manslaughter and the cop was fired and did 2 years. \n\nSounds like they’re doing a shit job at protecting each other.", "I wish I could give Kala a big hug! I hope she gets the love and help she deserves and this \"man\" gets some awful disease that kills him painfully and slowly.", "Charge they phone, disable body camera, beat wife, murder, and lie?", "Strong, the force is", "Whoa lemme see those hands no quick movements!!", "I'm not saying that that type of human trafficking isn't extremely significant but what I think about is that monetarily wise that seems like you are getting much less value from them compared to say selling them to somebody extremely rich. I doubt they're sourced from America but there's many places all over the world with corrupt governments/refugees that are much more vunerable. All it takes is somebody with extreme levels of wealth and sociopathy for there to be a massive market for doing whatever they want with trafficking victims. There must be some sort of black market infrastructure in place for it to happen. Elite pedophile sex rings or worse are definitely very likely at least, I have no idea how they wouldn't happen given how there exists levels of wealth in society where laws don't apply, that people at that level of wealth can tend to not have empathy for anybody else, and how bored they must be. Everybody says being extremely wealthy isn't by itself interesting for everyone. So what happens when people who have this level of wealth, are bored by it and are practically psychopaths? What makes them enjoy life at that point? Those 3 factors have been a thing for a long time, we know that elite secret societies have existed (not saying that this type of thing is true for all secret societies but true for some subsection of it) for a long time. So when psychopathic extremely powerful people are grouped together for a long time, this kind of infrastructure will come into place. Like squid game type shit, there's definitely been some elite group sometime somewhere who has like hunted people. Tbh it disturbs me that nobody really cares or thinks about this. I can't imagine what it's like to be a literal toy for some rich sociopath.", "OMG the \"your buddy\" thing made me so mad... is this something \"buddies\" do to each other??!! WTF", "Yeah I'm not seeing the connection. So, he was a real estate agent, who secretly was a serial killer. AND he also secretly raped and kidnapped and imprisoned people. But his OTHER alter ego was a hitman? Who has the time? And who were his clients? Why would he store the targets on his own property if he was such a good hitman?", "Casino odds they are, yes.", "Damn, guess we were all wrong after all. \n\nPolice of the world: held accountable. That settles it.", "\"swagless dweeb\" this fool soundin like Roger the bully from the hit 90s animated cartoon Doug, on Nickelodeon!", "Todd, is that you?", "True- and I had to look, he 'only' killed 4 people, limits the pool on possible insane revenge. Also looks like he chose victims that were prostitute or prostitute adjacent. Very unlikely to have anyone willing to avenge them.", "He made a killing", "based on what", "I would place them a few rungs below used car salesmen.", "A disease called the electric chair", "The other officer in the like white or Grey shirt sounds like Junior from Reno 911", "[Four ha's. That's more than most of them can count.](https://i.imgflip.com/5warfb.jpg)", "I wonder if he was reasonable when reviewing and if there were any red flags in the reviews", "So does Reddit.", "Please understand that those numbers are... very hard to assess. It's been a while that I had classes specifically on unknown data, but it comes down very much to what we don't know, don't see, don't hear, we can't really put a number on it. So while these reports from NGO's are often thrown up with massive numbers, truth is nobody really knows.\n\nNow I'm not trying to downplay that human trafficking doesn't happen, it does. But that 5 million (or even by your own claim more) are being trafficked is actually very unlikely and purely based on unsubstantiated data. Also what you do here is a little tricky, you pull a number of 4.8 million in a wiki that talks about global, while linking to the US.", ">To say that it's situations like this moves work from the actual victims of trafficking and toward mythical scenarios like that hundreds of thousands of children are kidnapped every year in America and used as sex slaves.", "I just gave you a specific example of the cops in my town doing the right thing and holding themselves accountable. You’re watching a video of cops saving a woman from certain death. What will it take for you to think that maybe it’s not as bad as you want to believe?\n\nWhy do you see one event and assume it applies to all cops but see different event and assume it doesn’t? \n\nYou think maybe it’s a bias?", "No… no, I don’t believe he had anything to do with what was described", "This was my first thought. Where are the women responders??? The last thing I would trust would be these guys walking in.", "Often times trafficking victims are teenagers from broken homes and/or on drugs supplied sometimes forcibly until they are addicts. So not kidnapped, but many victims are US citizens.\n\nFinds me up and abused wife who live next door to a friend in our old apartment complex. You could hear the abuse through the walls and the police were there regularly but the woman stayed. She had no place to go.", "Someone's watched Cool Hand Luke.", "No thanks, today is my happy day.", "I know how that feels, I met Jerry Sandusky as a child. Also, it was the last time my brother bragged about being the cute one.", "Some of those realtors make a real killing", "Hey you replied within 50 minutes this time! That’s a little… less sad I guess, you are getting better aren’t you?", "Human trafficking is extremely common. You don’t have to be a serial killer to be a piece of shit", "Probably the number that is the biggest entry point for Qanon people to start believing is when they are told the \"true\" stat that somewhere in the region of 3 million children go missing in America every year. This then leads to a jump that 3 million kids are stolen, but you've never heard of this issue, clearly it's a grand conspiracy and therefore, whatever group you dislike (which Qanon has labelled as all progressives. Who actually have tried to increase taxes and use some of that money to pay for childcare, which not all people agree with philosophically, but being this angry over 3% higher taxes is hard.) are hiding it.\n\nIn reality, that 3 million is reports of kids missing. You go to your friends place when 12 overnight and don't tell them. They reported you missing. You're in a shitty household and run away 5 times in the space of a year (and the police take you right home again), that's 5 reports. The actual kidnappings are also 95% of the time custody disputes. In reality, crazy stories like this are less than 200/yr. But Qanon people never get told this.\n\nThere is an issue with kids from bad homes or with drug addictions, but the numbers are nowhere near it enough for the conspiracy claims. It's more like that prostitute on the corner in a rough part of town probably has a pimp and with different situations she wouldn t be in that place.", "Dumb shit", "who?", "What a psycho", "Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuunbreakable", "Check out [Criminal](https://thisiscriminal.com/). Without a doubt, it is a benchmark for how these should be done. It has an almost \"This American Life\" flow to the podcast, and Phoebe Judge has great pacing and vocal fry. She also interviews folks who were involved/around for each podcast.", "Maybe you should x-ray your walls, basement floor and backyard.", "I’m pretty sure there had been a (seemingly) completely unrelated Dateline about a murder at a motorcycle shop, and it turned out that the guy who did this had also been responsible for that.", "Not good if the cops don't find you", "He says “just hang tight”", "Emmet Brown", "No that actually is scientifically correct", "IDK, brown skinned man with long hair and cheap clothing? Cops would probably like to \"talk\" to him", "ThAt'S rAcIsT tOwArDs [fill in the blank]. Yeah, you're right, that's exactly what that is. Glad some Redditors still have a brain.", "Just as an FYI to you then, people don't blindly hate the police. In fact, the more videos we get and the more we see how they operate and protect their own, the more hatred they get as an organization. So really the more blind people were, the more they liked the US police. Hmm...", "At first I think they're meming but after a week of being a no-show I would assume they would be dead.", "you're my favorite customer", "Also the cop kept talking about him doing \"a rape\". Very weird.", "This is something that was taught to me in the military. The movies always make it seem like you should resist at every opportunity, piss of your captors. But you can’t fight back if you’re dead. Often times it’s better to cooperate (you can still cooperate without giving away secrets) to stay alive, maybe get more lax treatment and keep observant in an to hopefully successful escape or stay alive long enough to get rescued.", "Wow that’s insane.", "All the “sweethearts” and “honeys”… 🤮\n\nLike, she’d just been through god knows what, and this stranger is calling her pet names. 🥴", "Just not ones that she knew of or were willing to go to either. While alot of those places are certainly lacking, I think the big problem is most people just don't know what kind of programs are available to them.\n\nWith so much out there most of it is goes unnoticed therefore underutilized and eventually underfunded alot of the time. A sad cycle if you ask me.", "Many cops have murdered innocent people. It's a known part of the initiation rites of certain police gangs like those in LAPD. There are a lot of cop serial killers, but they do it in plain sight under the auspices of their jobs.", "I feel like someone should go through the legal steps just so there’s a record that might stop others from getting stuck in that same situation", "Abuse homeless people and create speed traps?", "Yoda?", "All right.", "300k isn’t much money for land. Unless you mean this scratches the surface of what someone with 30m or 300m could do", "Great point, this was also right before the internet was so readily available and info so easily accessible, but these also weren't sophisticated people.", "laughs, cries, then drinks in freedom", "Could you cite a source for this, please?", "The real correlation there is likely that neither require any education.", "yes, same guy, killed them because they laughed at him when he fell off his bike he just bought after stewing on the situation", "Cartoon world", "Killing 1 person should have netter 50 minimum. The fact he killed 4 people and got off doing 14 years is absolutely insane. I 100% believe in capital punishment especially if there is evidence.", "https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/blacker-my-soul-alarming-amazon-reviews-linked-alleged-sc-killer-n679231\n\n\nHe said he had five locks on a container", "What podcast?", "Reddit is full of white people whose only interaction with cops has been getting a warning for speeding, but because they saw a video online they assume anytime anyone talks to a cop there's a 20% chance they'll get shot.", "The dead one who gave it away", "Summarily [also means](https://www.dictionary.com/browse/summarily) \"in a prompt or direct manner; immediately; straightaway\", which was my intended usage. \n\nSubsequently could also be correct, but I was referring to the promptness or directness with which her kidnapping occurred.", "Ours was fantastic and we’re calling her if/when we sell.", "> East Bound Strangler \n\nwhich one of the four suspect's are you referring? \n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastbound_Strangler", "They were all rubber necking a tragedy. Not every day some shit like this happens in a cop's district so they all want in on the action so they can tell some other bar fly 30 years from now the story about how they single handedly rescued an imprisoned girl.\n\nIt's astounding how unprofessional they seem.", "\"Are you attempting to steal the chains from that person's wall?!\"\n\nchecks notes\n\n\"That's a good shoot right there, get 'em, boys!\"", "Or suspiciously tan.", "She's got a ~~book~~ gun!", "And you also should have seen that there are four suspects. So, someone \"knows\" who it is, but, only in their own belief.", "Stop resisting!!", "Truly the real crime here", "Are some episodes banned?", "They had their guns drawn, they were ready.", "Lil Stinkers. This one was out early on their Patreon.", "Your thinking Ariel Castro. He killed himself in prison within a few days. Amanda Berry was able to escape and alert a neighbor for help.", "Killing a baby (that’s already been born) is probably very mentally difficult but if I knew the baby was Hitler I’d probably yeet it into a wall or something. Or you know, raise it differently and try to steer it away from prejudice.", "Lol yeah the guy you're replying to really missed the important part of that sentence.", "I wish there would be a female officer present.", "This was 10 minutes from me. Crazy to think about still.", "Oh, I get it.i just think people should be more aware of what they're saying. You don't grab someone out of Dahmer's basement and start talking about wanting to grab a bite to eat.", "They probably shot two dogs and a goat on the way in though", "it was a 600, and he couldn’t ride! whats worse than a gixxer fanboy? a gixxer fanboy that cant even ride.", "I mean, she was an untrained journalist without a formal connection to any publication. After leaving her job as a waitress, she had been practicing any form of journalism for less than 18 months. Then she decided to risk her and her colleagues' life in what is literally one of the most dangerous places on Earth.\n\nHer previous work had mainly been writing a column for a tiny Canadian newspaper and some work for Iran's famous propagandist state TV network. \n\nShe did not have the experience, expertise or support to attempt what she did.", "OK, misunderstood that part. Sometimes you are not sure exactly what was said and you extrapolate what you can. Of course it's obvious, if you hear and understand it all.", "I'm signing off for the night. Man.", "I also had a good one. If you were the sleazy kind you would know. Would you say you enjoy your work?", "Ahh! That makes a lot more sense but still sounds odd. I'd be using names, this is a serious situation for everyone.", "Discovery ID - Serial Killer : Devil Unchained", "thank you!\n\nedit: damn cant find this anywhere online for free", "Rape mostly", "Is it murder? That would be quite a surprise.", "Yep. Exactly. \n\nI fucking hated the withdrawals from medical marijuana after smoking for 2 years (night sweats, restless nights, anxiety) . I couldn't fucking imagine heroin withdrawals...WITH A KIDNAPPER RAPING YOU at 3:00PM every day like clockwork.\n\nSucks.", "I misunderstood a little bit, they meant her boyfriend but he had been murdered. It still seems a weird way to be talking in this situation.", "The definition of empathy is \"the ability to understand and share the feelings of another\". You can't ever know someone else's means/history/experience, but the more you can relate to what they've been through the better you can understand the feelings they experienced going through it.\n\nI think they said what they said based on this. If you haven't been through what someone has been through, you can show sympathy, but you can't have empathy without having some capacity to grasp what they went through.", "Right, and all the highly educated people at ACLU who have been diligently detailing a nationwide lack of police oversight and officers abusing their power, all of those people aRE LiKe tOtALly 13", "As frightening as this is, I gotta say that in the still frame before the video she reminds me of Mitch Hedburg.", "Don't forget shoot a dog.", "Thanks. I've never heard it but I'm always happy to find new comedy/true crime podcasts so I'll give it a listen", "It's sad to me that so many people have been so brainwashed by law enforcement and mainstream media as to think this kind of shit is anything other than insanely rare.", "Her frozen banana bit is solid.", "Cinnamon 😞", "This sick dude was from where I grew up. \n\nhttps://www.syracuse.com/crime/2020/12/john-jamelske-man-who-imprisoned-5-girls-women-in-dewitt-dungeon-is-up-for-parole.html\n\nI rented a house in a pretty well off area and drove by his house at least twice a day coming/going to work. It sickens me knowing this was going on the entire time right under everyone’s noses and no one knew a thing about it. \n\nCrazy to think about what else is around us…", "Until we can identify these kinds of people by mapping their brains, we will never be able to conclusively determine whether someone is truly dangerous or not. They have a remarkable ability to hide their complete lack of empathy for other humans.", "Strong, strong woman to convey all that information that quickly after being chained up in a dark shipping container that had to have it's locks cut off.", "If you are being abducted, yes. Resist. Fight tooth and nail to avoid being taken. But once you've been captured and restrained....cooperate", "Ok, I didn’t see anything wrong with this. Imagine going into a fucking serial killers storage container, you are gonna have your guard up.", "♪ Old Lady House ♪ \n♪ You'll never be alone. ♪", "Copy and paste.", "Don't forget some pretty low standards to become one. Cop or Realtor, I'm not sure which I'd trust less tbh...\n\n(I mean obvs you gotta have pretty low standards to vote for Trump too)", "Really? I thought it was the killing!", "What else do you do or think about while sitting in a pitch dark shipping container for two months. Must have seemed like two decades.", "Yeah. Snapping pics of her spotlighted. Jesus Christ, have some goddamn sensitivity", "“hang loose for me”🤣🤣🤣", "lmao I kinda miss when memes were just autotuned black people from the news", "Amazing strength on display. Will of iron.", "Reading about that guy should be all the argument anybody needs to support capital punishment.", "One of the guys places something on a chair immediately after entering, like isn't the a crime scene?", "> Sounds like you’re doing a bit of armchair psychology\n\nI'm shocked there's any room left in the armchair with you in it.", "gross", "Rape meaning sexual intercourse (sex). I'm not sure why you are correcting me here. I think everyone knows she didn't voluntarily get kidnaped because she had the hots for the guy. But if anyone was wondering, you clarified it I guess.", "Suspiciously strong tbh", "ACLU said \"Cops are assholes\"?\n\nYou've invited 13 year olds to contribute to your thesis. No wonder your solutions include \"defund the police\" and CHAZ", "Just wanted to chime in and say that last picture of him in the abridged video in the blue shirt, he looks like an over inflated Kirk Fogg from Legends of the Hidden Temple", "I definitely have breast cancer.", "Agreed. You can certainly make the argument that his casualness with murder implies he had done it before.\n\nBut that doesn’t mean he was getting paid to do it. Simplest answer is that he’d been killing for many years.", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFdDpbTSx6M", "It's also the worst example. He left a review on a knife saying he hadnt stabbed anyone yet but wants to or something along those lines.", "Lol feel free to step up and be that person", "His other victim was a drug addict, I believe, and her breakdown mainly came from withdrawal because he wasn't able to get her what she needed.\n\nShe trashed the storage container where she was being held and knocked over one of his shelves so he killed her.", "It's a lot higher than the odds of walking out dead.", "I think they would be a different one. The one in Hamilton. He was left in his bed. They taped up the doors and vents. And drove a van with all Jesus writing all over it.", "\"M'am step away from the weapon\" - \"It's a chain, I can't\" - M'AM STEP AWAY FR- starts firing at her", "he asked her to hang lose", "That's what's crazy about this case, he was a very successful realtor who eventually headed a firm and had a team of realtors working underneath him.\n\nHe had a lot of money and a lot of time to indulge in his sick hobby.", "There was also another one. I think it was in St. Catharines or out that way", "As it was put to me. One million homes sold and one million realtors. Everyone is not selling one.", "Jerk? Die, you gas pumper!", "He showed up, killed everyone (an entire family that ran the store), and left. No cameras or evidence left behind. He had no connection to the store other than buying a dirt bike much earlier. He just didn't like them because he had some repressed anger about being too fat to ride his dirt bike.", "~~No cameras IIRC and no witnesses left alive. He had bought a bike that was way too much for a beginner against the advice of the dealership. He later came back and tried to return it and they laughed in his face, so he killed everyone there.~~ His mom even said it in an interview as if they were in the wrong for hurting his feelings.\n\nI followed the case pretty closely once they went missing.\n\nRAGEEEEE below has better info.", "Where are the bodies?", "I feel like when something this awful happens to you the Government should step in and take care of you for life", "Not at the round table, probably.", "Yeah and people glorify them for it 🙃", "My real estate agent was so worried about me buying a condo in a rough area that he literally said, “I wouldn’t let my daughter live here.”\n\nHe was awesome.", "> Everyone in my area knows who the East Bound Strangler was and there's no way to prove it in court.\n\nHow?\n\n> Reason being they tried to tie him to all the murders at once and a copycat or accomplise did the same murder style while he had alibi but everyone knows he's the serial killer\n\nWhy", "A little digging and I found that she had a fiancé after everything happened and he killed himself. Later on she was arrested for punching her boyfriend. I really hope things get better for her.", "These guys rescued a girl from a serial killers prison. You're talking shit on Reddit.", "I think I might have read that one. Wasn't it gunpowder or something that they used on the dogs?", "The YouTube algorithm showed me this yesterday and I watched it. I figured it happened to someone else and this is why it’s on here today haha.", "I literally have that book on my nightstand this second and it's 100% from that book.", "People like this guy deserve to be tortured almost to the point of death. And kept up for days and days on end. For the rest of their life and fed adrenaline so his heart keeps beating. And just keep him from the brink of death for as long as he can stay alive for.", "bruh", "Look at how all these big white dudes barrel over to her and lumber over her. It doesn't take all of you to undo some cuffs, and she's been held captive by a man. Back the fuck up and let ONE person handle it, or maybe have a female officer SOMEWHERE on your police force so you don't \"accidentally\" traumatize someone that's already been through hell.", "This is pretty common with people that have been traumatized. Its really fucking sad.", "Mine was fantastic, and if any of my friends ever needed one, I'd recommend her any day. Helped me search for a house for 4 or so months, with me looking at houses and turning them down quiet often. Yet she never once pressured me into a bid, and the few times I truly asked her to give me her thoughts, she had no problems telling me she wasn't a fan despite knowing that meant I'd be taking up more of her time with her not making any extra from it. Then when I did find the one I liked, she was fantastic through that entire process. I legitimately could not have asked for a better realtor. Plus, looking at what she's sold since then, I was definitely on the low end of her purchases, so she made substantially less money on my sale. Yet she gave me as much time and effort as any one else.", "It'd be easier just to put a pillow and a something heavy on his face.", "r/unexpectedyoda", "They advertise, it just usually isn't obvious. It is becoming more accepted though.\nI have seen some \"Into the lifestyle and looking\" indicators on people in odd places (like hosting a seminar).", "Men are kinda gross. No, not all of them, but more than enough.", "That was my first thought too, but as she said to me; easy position to take when you're not the one who's faced with it. \n\nEspecially since it had been a few years already by that point. 'Why did you wait so long to report anything?' 'Why, after all this time are you accusing this poor young man and dragging his name through the dirt?' 'Where's your proof, why didn't you fight him?', 'why were you there, can you prove he forced you?' The state police in her area were famous for treating rape allegations with open hostility even in clear cut cases. Was about a decade ago now.\n\nShe just wanted to not think about it any more. Was still working through the trauma. And she was busy trying to just live life. So I didn't bring it up again. \n\nIt was well beyond either of us at that point in life. Haven't talked to her in years. Hopefully she's doing allright, she was a lovely person. Probably why the guy targeted her. Socially isolated, vulnerable, and (at the time) far too trusting.", "Then another Hitler would take his place. Hitler was just a symptom of the problem. He was just a figurehead.", "I bet there’s a timeline where Hitler gets accepted to art school & ends up with some wealthy Jewish patrons who buy his work.", "Was her boyfriend that got killed, terrible", "does anyone understand the dogs will be ruined because there is red pepper?", "The scariest part of Kohlhepp's murders was the motorcycle shop.\n\nIn 2003, 3 men and 1 woman were shot to death mid-day at Superbike Motorsports; the owner, bookkeeper, and two mechanics. Police had no motive whatsoever and the case was cold for 13yrs until Kohlhepp confessed in 2016.\n\nWhile in custody, Kohlhepp said he'd purchase a crotch rocket motorcycle from the store and came back to complain about it. The owner & employees allegedly mocked Kohlhepp (a tall, overweight guy), for not knowing how to properly ride the bike and not being the right body type for the bike.\n\nKohlhepp left the store, retrieved a pistol, came back, executed all 4 of them, and left. All because they laughed at him and embarrassed him.", "Even when accounting for poverty, there’s actually significant crime, educational attainment, and other gaps between Asians, whites, blacks and Hispanics. \n\nA lot of times the gap even persists through social classes - so Asians who are dirt poor end up having better social mobility than even middle income blacks and my own observation is that wading into this from a genuine social science perspective is untenable... and probably outright impossible if you’re a white man (unless you’re pandering to a Ben Shapiro sort of audience). If there are people doing genuine work here, it’s definitely been been pretty buried. There are some black intellectuals who have extremely valuable against-the-grain insights on issues where race and class intersect but they’re not popular either and most aren’t sociologists (eg John McWhorter).\n\nOne way or another we landed on all disparate racial outcomes being the result of institutionalized racism. The laziness of that take is blown but by just how many non African-American black immigrants from the Caribbean and Africa do so much better than American blacks. At face value they not only should be held back by being dark skinned (often having even darker skin) but they also have even less to begin with (both monetarily and in terms of institutionalized setbacks). They still do better. \n\nWhat’s even more ironic is that American culture is the laughing stock of the world and universally recognized as regressive and holding people back… but somehow blacks are this monolith immune to any criticism that they hold themselves back through a lot of quite frankly idiotic decisions. And they reinforce that time and time again: eg just these last year even you can see the vaccination rate disparity in cities and it doesn’t take a big brain to figure out that being unvaccinated will manifest into more than just social exclusion.", "I kind of felt like we shouldn't be watching this. Like she's been chained up in a storage container. Just give her some space and privacy.", "I might Oops it into a wood chipper...", "Sounds like a reseller who hunts down & murders the customers who left him 1 star reviews.", "Exactly. We learned to not just go with the Redfin agent who showed us the house. (Although in fairness, we never thought they’d take our offer. We offered less than the asking price in the Bay Area and we were fha loan. Those offers tend to be rejected.)", "Weird, cuz I knocked over a fascist iconography storage box the other day and a thin blue line flag signed by Joe Arpaio tumbled out.\n\nHm, yeah you're right I guess there's no connection there.", "At 0:42, did the officer in the red look like he dropped that bottle on purpose and acted like someone was asking him, then never proceeded to pick the bottle up. Just seemed weird to me.", "Did he give off any weird vibes to you?", "So yes then?", "> How long would that last?\n\nexactly until it rained or even a dewy morning. aka no where near feasible for more than a day.", "He was very good at manipulating people, so yes. He was convicted of kidnapping when he was a teen, released when he was 30 and still managed to get a job as a Realtor despite having a criminal record and being on the sex offender registry. He had a way with words. But ultimately he was a very sad man who would go to great lengths for a minuscule of approval, who’s family never loved him and knew he was sick from a young age, he harmed animals and by the time he was arrested again for the crimes directly related to this video post he was a serial killer and had been for sometime. He was also connected to a case when he was a teen where he and his “friend” were walking down an alley when his “friend” got shot and killed by “gang members”…there were no witnesses to this incident only his words. One of the most disturbing killers and he spoke about his crimes to investigators with glee.", "\"we're going to get you out there, just hang loose for me\" continues hanging from the wall I bet that keeps him up at night.", "Wait..... he was allowed to become a real estate agent AFTER serving 15 years in prison for raping a 12 year old?? What the fuck???", "That’s the chuckle I needed in this terrible thread.", "Dry sponge, like in The Green Mile", "Not sure what you're trying to get at because it turns out black people been disproportionately pressed into poverty using law enforcement for a few centuries.", "Police had absolutely no motive or suspects. He killed them in the middle of the day, for laughing at him.", "I agree!!", "I think he is likely a goober-ass reserve deputy in over his head and not an actual what you would think of as police. The compound was 95 acres. Probably had all the manpower they could get. A lot of people seem to be focusing on him. Hanlons razor states don’t mistake malice for stupidity. The officer is even calling him out but it’s gets garbled “Probably, hey Joey, put your gut away retard.”", "\"Don't leave town\" lol", "Stoicism can save lives. I envy her ability to not freak out and realize her situation.", "What did he mean by that? It would slow down the kidnapped women til they were too old to care?\n\nWTF does that mean??? Did he plan to keep her there until she basically gave up & accepted her fate?\n\nHad he done this before & knows the amount of time it takes to fully break someone?\n\nSo many questions!", "now you're thinking like albert fish", "“If you like pina colada…”", "Fuck", "Eh I dunno. I think some people are just innately bad. They’re born with warped brains. I’d say most bad people are molded that way, but not all.\n\nSome people are just evil fucks.", "hey.. that’s cool how you stick up for your mom and appreciate what she does, very cool", "Without evening clicking on the link, I know it's Explore With Us. This channel is a knock off of [JCS - Criminal Psychology](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mwt35SEeR9w), which is actually very high quality. Explore With Us attempts to capture the \"psychological analysis\" aspect of JCS, but it comes off like the guy who writes the script doesn't actually know anything about psychology, and is just sort of winging it/saying stuff that sounds right.", "Dude, hearing her talk at the end made me cry. She doesn't even know how traumatized she is yet.", "Yikes.", "It's a knights sacred oath to be honorable.", "I can only imagine that'd she'd been rehearsing that for quite a while. She rattled it off like it's been keeping her sane.", "Fight like hell to not be taken to a secondary location. If you're at the secondary location, placate cooperate etc. You're 100% right.\n\nIf you are going to be taken to a secondary location, leave as much evidence as you can at the primary location.", "the killer had an IQ of 118, and he killed at least 3 of his victims because they demeaned/insulted him. so he was very intelligent, and yet vain AF", "This is so fucked up. They are taking video and pictures because they NEED that evidence. \n\nAnd she just talks as if she's listing off facts from memory. What a horrible ordeal.", "What does their race have to do with anything? I hope you see beyond people's skin one day dude.", "Why, with that much money, you could buy a private island!", "Cute. The government here won't give you a penny even if they [accidentally blow up your house using explosives](https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/10/30/police-blew-up-an-innocent-mans-house-search-an-armed-shoplifter-too-bad-court-rules/).", "Honestly (and sadly), I sort of assumed she’d had a rough life. Being able to wall off emotions and handle the abuse as calmly as she did makes me think it wasn’t the first go-round. Obviously not to this level, but the groundwork to handle something like this.", ">hundreds of videos\n\nListen, you said \"earlier today I watched a video\" verbatim. You didn't mention anything about hundreds of videos and years of evidence. I was replying to what you originally said.\n\nEven then you're disregarding the equally massive amount of videos of police helping people, like the literal original post you're replying to.\n\nCome back down to earth.", "Women and girls get taught this. I was told when I was maybe twelve how to deal with an attacker in a way that would hopefully maximize my chance of survival.", "When did this take place?", "When the USA government comes “to take care of you”.", "...it's literally coerced consent. Stop misusing words. Coerced consent IS consent, just not valid consent. Just like when underage people consent to sex, it's literal consent but invalid by law. What you said results in equivocation, call things what they are and not how what they are makes you feel.", "Which is a good amount for visiting a bad neighborhood in Chicago, but not for a place that is quite literally lawless.", "I watched a doc about this case the other day, he also posted more than once on the boyfriend's facebook and this was while Kala and her boyfriend at the time were missing. Their friends and family knew something was amiss, and you can see it in the comments.\n\nHe didn't fool anyone to begin with, and when he was in the interrogation room he recounted what happened in an arrogant fashion. Dude seemed like one of those types that wanted the attention.\n\n[A long watch](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GL8gk3b2L8), if anyone is interested in the case. It has additional footage of Kala after she is found that is really difficult to watch, so forewarning.", "I have half a mind to go to the warden! \n\nRidiculous.", "I think that's all places.", "Secret snuggling compartments and cocaine. Definitely the most fun boat in WWII.", "Glad you said this", "\"Despite being registered as a sex offender, Kohlhepp was able to get a real estate license on June 30, 2006, after lying about the felony charge on his application.\"\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd_Kohlhepp", "[Todd Kohlhepp](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd_Kohlhepp) \n \n >Todd Christopher Kohlhepp (born March 7, 1971) is an American serial killer, sex offender, and mass murderer convicted of murdering seven people in South Carolina between 2003 and 2016.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( \| )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( \| )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( \| )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove \| v1.5)", "The responders chose their job, so whatever they needed is on them. To even consider mentioning their asses when someone is in her position is...well, you see why nobody likes cops at least.", "Unbreakable!!!", "That's the lesser babka", "It’s called a hypothetical but nice dodge!", "The video from his interrogation is wild. He confessed to an entirely unrelated quadruple murder, and told the cops they \"would have been proud\" of the how quickly he cleared the building (of unarmed innocent people). He also rationalizes his other rapes and murders; you can really tell he has no remorse.", "Those interrogators are trying sooo hard to stay cool and keep \"mhhmm-ing\" through his batshit crazy self aggrandizing stories about murdering people.", "Damn the therapy thats going to be needed to unlock herself from that state is gonna be astronomical, i cant imagine how dissociated she must be", "Yeah, I'm going to tell you right now that your part about the location specific information is the key component. When you're looking for a realtor, the first thing you need to ask them is how long they've lived in the area they represent. If it's less then five years find another agent. Most of the value of a realtor is someone local to the area who knows it well, knows the weather, knows what floods, knows where there's been xyz problems before, and knows how to find the specific home/area you're looking for. Especially if you can find one who knows local builders and what to look out for, a good home inspector they can recommend, and a good structural engineer if there seems to be issues.\n\nA big part of the problem I think people have with realtors is that most states allows you to transfer your license these days. When someone has moved from New York to Florida, then to North Carolina, that license and training was for New York, and they're not going to know shit about North Carolina. It's just a completely different set of considerations. If the person you're talking to clearly isn't from the area you're in, why are you expecting that they're going to offer you anything more then most of the same information you'd find on zillow plus a bit of man hours filling out contracts? You have to curb your expectations to the amount of effort you put in. Realtors aren't all made equal, and if you're not willing to put effort into finding one that suits you, then you should keep your expectations for what they can offer you low.", "This whole thread is just projecting. Like the guys are doing their best to get her out of there. They even yell for others to get back. Bring a blanket to wrap her in. At one point the one officer starts to question why another person followed them in there until he realized they were an EMT. \n\nI understand Reddit hates police but come’on everyone…chill the fuck out already.", "Kala was reported missing August 31, 2016 and was found November 3, just over 2 months later.", "What’s crazy to me if you read the Wikipedia page for kohlhepp is that he was arrested for heinous crimes that would be given the death penalty if he wasn’t white. But the judge and the lawyers said he’s a good man and let him go. Then he straight up committed many murders with a gun and the police had not caught him ?!?!? \n\nHe killed two guys in a bloody showroom. How is it that the police didn’t know or catch the killer. To me it reeks of corruption and gross police incompetence. incompetence which only seems to exist when it comes to rich white suspects. Kohllep was quite rich in the little town he was in. To me it seems like the police knew exactly who the murderer was but just let him go or something. The whole thing is smelly as fuck.\n\nTwo of the victims he killed were working employees from a contractor company on his property. If the police would’ve just gone and asked their company where they went to work last, they would’ve found out who the killer was. Also to note: both of them were killed a week Apart and were a couple, it’s stupid to me that one of them must’ve gone to the police asking for their missing partner and the police did nothing.", "Jesus you are a scumbag.", "Around 2016, I'm pretty sure.", "Sarcasm is tough for you huh", "I live on the planet this happened. Some other things happened here as well.", "seems like real knuckled head", "Fascinating but terrifying", "The holy trifecta", "Let's not confuse rape with sex. She didn't resist when he was raping her in an attempt to survive. She was not having sex she was surviving.", "English is a really weird language where context can be assumed. You find it in our literature that's regarded as the great works of the English language. More importantly you find words being misused intentionally as a hyperbole. Sarcasm is even ingrained in the culture. You may think you being intelligent with your comment, but all you are doing is highlighting an ignorance of the English language. Particularly when it comes to conversational English. Which is drastically different from, let's say, an academic paper or legal writing.", "Thanks for the link, I thought I jad already found all the decent true crime/horror/mystery channels on youtube, but this definitely looks like a good find.", "Wow are you saying prison time didn't undo his psychopathic tendencies", "“Tell the dog people that” that’s what he gets paid the big bucks for, quick on his feet.", "In his interrogation/confession video he says he loaded his clips with two pairs of rubber gloves on so as to not leave fingerprints on the casings and that he used his knuckles to open a couple doors. He killed everyone in the place during a slow part of the day when he knew not many people were likely to be there or show up too. Also, the location was way out in the sticks in a small town so there were no witnesses at all.", "Only 13 years after a murder spree in a business, good job! Chuck Wright is just super competent, right?", "Yes, they (and you) do. They and you look at an infinitesimally small percentage of total police activities—the worst anecdotes activists and the press can feed you, and even then they often have to twist it to make it seem bad—and you then leap to a collective judgment, otherwise known as bigotry, that is not only completely unjustified by data but also completely refuted by it.\n\nEdit: bold text", "There’s a scene in Cool Hand Luke where Luke uses cayenne pepper to stop the bloodhounds from tracking him", "Heard about this book on Reading Rainbow. It was an eye opener of a review.", "Oh my heck this made me lol", "25 years ago I worked for a large commercial real estate company. The CEO needed to have his RE license renewed every year. He was obviously too important and busy to be bothered to do that so I, the 18-year old intern who knew nothing about real estate, got to take the 10 question recertification test for him.\n\nI got a 10/10.", "I mean there's a woman chained up I doubt he's very concerned about proper bottle placement lol. Also anything moved around by personnel is heavily documented by investigators and forensic technicians and they filmed everything. It's really not a big deal lol", "This just made me think that if they aren’t going to take it seriously, the girl should just abduct the dude and keep him prisoner for six months too lol.", "I feel like this should take place on the night of a full moon, too lol", "A supreme one even.", "If you have a woman chained up in a shed you get her out immediately. They're not gonna stand around and wait for a female officer if one isn't readily available lol especially when a captive is capable of being released immediately.", "So if the trial lasted a year or so, the crime basically happened around the age of 14 and they gave him 15 years?\n\nDamn, knowing what he ended up doing, I don’t feel bad for him at all, but he must’ve been pretty violent and come off quite badly to get tried as an adult and get a sentence like that. Feel like there are adult rapists who get less, though maybe I just hear about those cause those are outside the norm and lenient too", "This is what my parents have always said about horror movies. For the most part they don't care about supernatural horror because there's the safety of knowing that someone like Freddy or Jason isn't actually real.\n\nBut the horror movies that's about someone kidnapping, torturing, and murdering people just because they enjoy it? Now that's the shit that keeps them up at night.", "This dude made this account for this comment lol what?!", "I always wonder about situations like this. Like, you're held captive for so long, no family to go home to (not good anyway), and no government help to get back on your feet. How do you recover from something like that? Not only emotionally, but physically and financially. How do you ever get to a point where you can support yourself again? Sure, she survived, but what struggles does she have to look forward to for the rest of her life? So sad.", "It was 14 years ago, but I loved mine. She was a kindly old lady who genuinely made me feel like she wanted to find a good fit for me. Pretty much all the advice she gave me at the time has held true, and I'm still loving my place 14 years later with no plans to move.", "Yeah can’t you always just take him away? Like even if you think leaving him there but just trying to meet him now and then to steer him might fail, I feel like removing him from Germany is both a solution and not baby murder.\n\nSo if you have a time machine, kidnap baby hitler instead of killing him later. If you don’t mind the extra work I guess", "This", "Maybe not in the north…", "50/50 \n\neither you do or you dont", "No he wasnt. People were angry at the time, but he was completely batshit and started all of that", "She’s white", "She's not black, those kinds of accidents drastically change depending on skin color", "Yeah oh man. \n\n\nShe handled this way, way better than I would have. Jesus.", "My small town has more registered realtors than there are houses.", "You’re getting down voted but she did naively and purposely put herself in severe and blatant danger. She acknowledges it herself. Doesn’t make it ok one bit what happened to her and Nigel. BUT STUPID GAMES STUPID PRIZES.", "Just saw the hour and half vid on YouTube about this earlier today. Had way more going on than I would have ever expected", "sigh reddit moment of the thread", "They asked her if she had any weapons.", "Or anything ever for that matter", "If I remember the story correctly she had a VERY hard time integrating back into anything close to every day life.", "Because in the modern day there is no real need for them for personal houses and they are grossly overpaid. 4-5% commissions are fucking absurd.\n\nMy BIL did mine for 1% commission (just starting out). He got $3k for a house that had 3 offers the second it went up. So all he did was take pictures, post it to MLS, and sent me like 5 forms to sign. \n\nA normal realtor would get $11k for that. $11k to post it online and send esignature documents. \n\nI dont hate them, but their profession needs to take a massive step back on payments. I'll use services like Homie in the future because I ain't paying someone that much.", "It's time you left yours", "Your whole world is a racist grifter named Jordan Peterson. Let’s not act like you’re superior. \n\nFuck the police.", "Why?", "I beg your pardon? Cinnamon takes a back seat to no babka.", "Reminds me of Shasta Groene. Her entire family was murdered by a serial killer while she and her brother were kidnapped (her brother was later killed as well). It's a brutal story and Joseph Duncan (the killer) actually has a blog you can go read where he documents all of his crimes and justifies them. Naturally Shasta has had serious issues since the murders and she has since been arrested for child endangerment and has struggled with addiction. I really feel for her and it's so sad because she did not get much help at all. I can't imagine having to go through that ordeal only to know that his blog is still up and readable and that no one really comes to your aid. I really hope that Karla, Shasta, and other victims, are able to to find the help they need to live happy lives.", "Shituation.", "The blackface one", "Like swinging paint cans? Or tar-covered sticky stairs?", "Dont bring your fetish here please", "Kind of a knucklehead if you ask me.", "Which would also be redundant", "I mean, he was made aware of information and then said to relay information to avoid issues down the line to aid K9 units.", "I thought this was going to be that incident from earlier this year where the LAPD confiscated fireworks and decided to detonate a bunch in a crowded residential area and completely botched the safe detonation they had planned.\n\nLast I read they’ve been dragging their feet on paying out for the damages. :/", "Rape isn't sex. :)", "Lmfao read this after watching the wheel chair shooting video. Fuck sake this is out of control", "It's not like they sell a house every day. That could easily be your BIL's only completed sale that month, even for several months if he's new.\n\nPlus, if it had 3 offers the second it went up, maybe your BIL advised you poorly on how to price it and you could've gotten more money if he'd analyzed comps and the market better? Maybe it was worth it to you to sell it that quickly, but with that experience in mind you don't think you could've upped the price another 20K and still sold pretty quick? Sure, it's easy to sell an underpriced house.\n\nAs an alternative situation, my mom represented some sellers who couldn't fathom that their house wasn't worth the sentimental value it held for them, so they ignored her advice based on the market/comps and they overpriced it. It sat on the market and sat and sat and sat and got its price reduced three times but by then it's stale (as she told them it would be) and it didn't generate interest because everyone who looked at it was like \"There must be something wrong with it.\"", "another boomer who didnt understand technology", "He didn't even bury it? How did he expect people weren't going to find it. Amateurs", "Survival instincts kick in, but it changes you forever.", "Well I'm sure people posting videos of her chained to the wall by her psychotic rapist for internet points will really help. Seriously, I've seen some innapropriate and invasive things being aired on here but this is the abesolute worst. Poor girl deserves some privacy without assholes like OP dredging this shit up over and over.", "Actually in some cases they do. They can apply for temporary or permanent SSD I think it’s called, either that or SSI, Social Security disability I had a friend that was traumatized and he collected benefits , Unfortunately he ended up committing suicide.", "Was wondering the same thing", "And maybe it's a bit insensitive for people like OP to post it on the internet to get fake internet points?", "Their neighbor got big testicles", "I doubt that was his intention, \"going along with it\" means just not putting up a fight and pretending to be receptive, no need to virtue signal.", "It was the correct price, just a hot area. That has kinda been a thing for awhile now all over the US. All 3 offers were different amounts over asking. I was probably already asking near the max I could get. \n\n$370k for a 1500sqft ain't bad. \n\nAgain, sucks for those just getting into it. But it is a market that largely doesn't need to exist at the scale it does (obviously there is too many realtors if they can't get much work). I dont have a lot of sympathy for them. Just because it may be your only sale doesn't mean I should be compensating for that. \n\nIn the past they actually had to do something to get your house noticed. Now everyone just goes to zillow and sees it immediately. Realtors simply have to do way less work than they used to and their pay should match.", "There was a study done on POW’s in Vietnam. As it turned out the most severed cases of PTSD were service-members who were POW’s for a shorter period. Accuse exposure does not allow you to adapt, it just flashes up, and leaves you wondering when it’ll come back. But the POW’s who were in for a long time reintegrated easier because they realized eventually, hey, I’m surviving, I can survive this.", "Scream that there's a fire.\n\nEdit: Apparently, the best likelihood of eliciting bystander intervention when a woman is being assaulted by a man is to yell something like “Who are you?”, which indicates that you are not in a relationship with that man (whether or not this is true). Not “rape”, not “fire”.", "What if there were multiple babies that could have been Hitler? Like, if the last name was common and parents names were lost to antiquity? How many potential baby Hitlers would you kill before drawing the line? Knowing that you can’t possibly raise them all? Not a dig, a genuine philosophical question.", "It was a made for TV movie or maybe one of those twilight zone type series, the person ended up drowning the baby Hitler and I think the nanny or something ended up buying another baby from some homeless woman or something and replacing it in the bassinet", "I mean, they did ask if she had any weapons....while she is literally chained to the wall by her neck", "How would it be redundant? If I’d used “subsequently” instead, there would be no sense of promptness or immediacy. She might have been in the country for months before being abducted. \n\n“Summarily” also often carries a colloquial critique or tinge of judgement with it. In this usage, it is akin to “unceremoniously”.", "Fuck me, some people just can’t catch a break.", "Feeling her feelings would literally mean death, no surprise she didn't when some officers came by", "I agree, I hadn’t seen this before, it’s awful but what I want to know is what’s on her Christmas list.", "Literally no one is confusing what happened.", "Weird comment.", "Mothafuckin Duncan skate park representttttt", "What's more is there was a conspiracy that she was in on it and was in part responsible for her bf's death bc somehow she knew all along she was never in any real danger.", "Unnecessarily pedantic. Forced sex is still sex.", "Wouldn't if it was someone killing people I don't know, but if it were a family member easy. Especially if everyone knows, just claim he came at you. Acquited easy.", "Things I shouldn't watch right before bed for $800, please.", ">41-year-old repairman Terry Oleson, who was being allowed to stay for free at the Golden Key Motel in exchange for repairs when the murders took place, was implicated by his girlfriend as the killer. They were reportedly having a domestic dispute at the time. In Oleson’s room, investigators found cameras set up and images of his girlfriend's teenage daughter undressing. There have been no DNA matches to connect Oleson with the crimes and he was never named as a suspect.[4]\n\nI'm going to take a wild guess and say it was this guy.", "Tips or resources to pass on to my daughter?", ">Golden Gate Strangler\n\nDude's got like five serial killer names and you managed to use none of them, lol.\n\n...Turns out I grew up very close to where Mr. Visalia Ransacker/East Area Rapist/Original Night Stalker/EARONS/Golden State Killer lived in anonymity, post-murdering. I regularly walked to school along the road he took to work each day. Gave me chills when I saw where his house was. Fuck that guy, and fuck the system that armed him with unjust authority.", "> It was the correct price, just a hot area.\n\nIf it's a hot area, you can up the price. If you get three offers in one second (or the first day) you almost definitely aren't selling it for as much as you can get. Especially if those offers don't include any negotiating that you might want to counter, like how much you're willing to do in repairs.\n\nPossibly you might run into an issue where the appraisal won't go through but the appraisers tend to adjust to the market -- more than they should sometimes, maybe.\n\n>$370k for a 1500sqft ain't bad.\n\nGreat but this means nothing without knowing your area and 1) I don't want you to tell me where you live, and 2) since I don't have experience in your area, I don't know your area like a local realtor does, so it still means nothing.\n\nI think it's pretty evident that your experience is atypical. With some regional and temporal exceptions, sellers do not get three offers in one day. And if you do, and you accept one of those first three offers, you are almost definitely missing out in some way due to poor advice (price it higher, wait for more offers, play them against one another, etc). Closing so quickly might have saved you time and effort but it probably cost you money.\n\nAlso you're only discussing sellers agents. Each one of those three offers hopefully had an agent of their own advising them in an extremely seller-friendly market, which means those three buyers agents were a valuable asset.", "why is that?", "And build a weird temple house.", "Yeah withdrawals from heroin and fentanyl are no joke. Some people need to be hospitalized for it. You have to seriously watch your electrolyte intake and make sure you force yourself to eat, all while trying not to throw up or shit yourself. I had to help my best friend go through this. \n\nUnfortunately, she later relapsed and died from her addiction. It’s a serious addiction and more funding needs to be put into to treating people with this addiction.\n\nI went through withdrawals from Xanax. I was prescribed it and I didn’t want to stay on it once I found out I carry a gene for late stage dementia and long term Xanax use is linked to dementia and Alzheimers. Those withdrawals were terrible, but more mental than anything. And those are withdrawals you can die from, and have seizures from, which didn’t help because I was already an epileptic. \n\nYet watching my best friend go through heroin and fentanyl withdrawals was a thousand times worse than I imagined smh. \n\nI can’t imagine going through this and being kidnapped and raped at the same damn time. Holy shit. At that point I would be screaming for them to just shoot me in the head. The amount of depression you get from withdrawing off heroin/fentanyl is insane. My friend was like a robot and had to be on a ton of medication (temporarily) just to function semi normal. Her brain was fucked from the lack of dopamine. \n\nI bet 100% that the woman was suicidal and couldn’t take it anymore. My heart goes out to her and her family.", "Thank you.", "Watch the movie Room. Great movie about this exact scenerio", "That's the dumbest shit I ever heard. Go tell the police dude", "worldwide then its an easily over 3 million spin it however you want if you think every case gets documented as well you're a lost case.", ">while you hide behind a screen.\n\nSometimes we protest and get our eyes shot out with rubber bullets and our medics supplies get destroyed because we're... standing there.\n\nSometimes our dogs get shot by them because they existed.\n\nSometimes they beat their own families. All of these are statistically relevant to the psychological profile of those who become cops. \n\nNot like you'd call those attacks \"cheap shots\" though. Not our brave boys in blue in SWAT gear with a giant union behind them in case they murder someone because they got scared because someone was the wrong pigment.", "so incredibly sad how we abandon people", "don't trust men", "Yeah sometimes I wonder if situations like this makes the person almost not mind what is happening for the sake of survival even though the situation is completely fucked. The way the human brain works is very interesting to me and its so weird that your brain can just switch to \"Well I guess this is my life now.\" and take out the reality of the situation.", "Randomly showed up on my recommendations bc I watch JCS Psychology as well. Both good channels :)", "It’s militantly leftist.. pro lgbt, trans, blm, antifa etc.. and extremely critical and intolerant of anything conservative. If you don’t see that then there’s really no point trying to convince you.", "... woof", "It's sad and morbid, but most people would do this, it's literally in our genes. Look up Stockholm Syndrome.\n\nIt's advantageous to go along with your captor, and there was even more kidnapping and rape before civilization and laws existed. Those who instinctually gave up and started to admire their captors had an easier time surviving (and getting pregnant) than those who fought them.\n\nOf course, these days, with the kidnapper being afraid you'll turn them in it's really a crapshoot. You might be lucky enough to be like Elizabeth Smart and they won't kill you, or they might decide to play it safe and murder you after raping you.\n\nI think the statistics point out that the best chance of survival is to struggle and fight as much as you can when you're still out in public... so to anyone who is in the process of getting kidnapped, break a window, try to gouge out their eyes, jump out of a car.... whatever beating you get can't be worse than what they do when they have you in captivity.", "I'll preface this by admitting i'm playing devil's advocated - but what, if any, information is available and vetted that would corroborate this claim?\n\nGenuinely curious, a customer simply partaking in those establishments does not offer any evidence whatsoever that they were aware that the workers were trafficked women/men. Merely that there is a market for this type of activity - which is an entirely different discussion.\n\n(also quite the leap to assume any player or fan signed off on this and acknowledged that despite these alleged heinous crimes still wanted to work for or enjoy their local NFL franchise)", ">The Democratic party? Ever day.\n\nRemind me which members of which party tried to raid the capital because their daddy president lost an election?", "Whatever man. I was not getting a bad deal and multiple first day offers are normal in the area. Compared to the comps I had, my listing price was near the top. Not gonna sit on it for weeks just to get a few thousand more bucks. Besides, he worked for a broker who said my listing price was good lol\n\nI'm not saying they shouldn't exist, but they shouldn't get 3-5%. If you think they should you are either don't realize how little work they actually have to do or you are a realtor. Buying or selling, my agents were not some important asset. Their listings are the same as Zillow and I didn't need them at all to pick an area.", "You win Reddit for the day. Goodnight.", "Without opening the link,\n\nIs this the LAPD fucking up with a load of fireworks?\n\nThe one where police destroyed a house because they thought a suspect was inside?\n\nOr the other one where police destroyed a house because they thought a suspect was inside?", "Police killed 457 white people in 2020", "Geezus, did this guy know everyone in this thread? Anyone here who wasn't friends with him, live near him, buy a house from him, or go to school with him??", "Shouldn't have released this on the internet. It's bad for the victim.", "Difficult to watch. This world is so cruel.", "Wow that is seriously the most insane thing I've seen in a long time. So scary.", "Total knucklehead.", "How was his purchase not a huge connection? I don't understand how the police didnt check that", "I discovered JCS Psychology recently and absolutely love it", "Why is it a weird comment? The trauma that comes after surviving something like this is a hell of a thing to struggle with", "I have disassociation identity disorder, it kinda does that. When I have an episode I feel like I'm living in 3rd person. I don't feel pain or hunger. I can't understand the passage of time. Its fucking weird.", "A youthful indiscretion, you see. Boys will be boys, can't let one mistake ruin a promising swimming... I mean real estate career.", "I mean, what do you do with a minor who commits an egregious crime? He served 15 years. And people failed to do their homework about checking his background. \n\nThis is one of those cases that put test you on your belief in rehabilitation. Dude should have rotted in jail for life but is that okay to do to a teenager?", "That's a fucking crazy story.", "This is correct. You'll find that many cops that find themselves under scrutiny for abuse, excessive force, or murder have a history of such behavior that was covered up.", "Good, he can rot for the rest of his miserable life!", "That's it! See, too many!!", ">Compared to the comps I had, my listing price was near the top.\n\nCompared to the comps your BIL provided you? Compared to your untrained analysis of the market? Dude, your own story gives away that you used a novice realtor who didn't get you the best deal you could get. And sure, you get what you paid for. \n\n>If you think they should you are either don't realize how little work they actually have to do or you are a realtor.\n\nI've already been clear about where my familiarity with real estate comes from. I know how much work they do. I know the hours they put in. I know that your experience is not a normal one, and I know the probable explanations for why it went the way it did. And as I detailed in [this comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/r6limt/video_of_kala_brown_being_released_from_serial/hmvjw2x/) 99% of what they do is not browsing Zillow.", "The second one! Or was it the third? Hmm...", "I couldn’t make it through to the end. He is beyond repulsive and I feel sick.", "... Yes... that's what I said?", "\"Just survived being raped by a serial killer for weeks #swag\"\n\nYou are a cartoonish zoomer stereotype", "Look at this person's comment history if you want a good laugh. I'm not further engaging with that mess.\n\nEdit: \"sad, pathetic ideologue\".. holy shit this person is so full of themselves", "You don't post anywhere.", ">Even when accounting for poverty, there’s actually significant crime, educational attainment, and other gaps between Asians, whites, blacks and Hispanics.\n\nNo... no there isn't.", "> deal with an attacker in a way that would hopefully maximize my chance of survival.\n\nBallshots.", "We sent a rapist to prison and got a serial killer back. \n\nThis should be making you all think about the effectiveness of our prison system and punitive justice in general.", "You're getting highly upvoted, because readers are being lead on by your claim that \"you looked into this case\". I hope your assumptions about what she did or didn't do are based on her own testimony and not whatever the assailant-rapist-murderer-pathological liar said about her.", "Got lazy rewriting, that's the core of it. I don't generally grab sources until after I've written the comment prior to its need and I didn't edit it out like I did for Swango who was \"Doctor Murder\" and John Wayne Gacy was \"Giggles the Clown.\"\n\nThanks for catching it, I'll edit in the proper name.", "You’re pretty sharp there too huh", "No, no. So naive. You're all off track thinking about whether there IS a risk. We don't bother with that objective crap. Doesn't matter. All that matters is whether the cop FELT like there was a risk. So we just wait until a cop kills someone, then we ask them, \"did you FEEL like there was a risk?\" If they say yes, obviously they are innocent.", "makes me want to vomit", "I get what you’re saying, but it is.", "That's the guy who bought all his supplies for his criminal activities on Amazon then left a review for each thing, right? The Amazon Review Killer? I swear on my fucking dick I'm not joking.", "When he first went to prison as a teen he read “How to win friends and influence people” and it became instrumental in his ability to manipulate people and gain favors.", "You are correct", "Maybe the comment doesn't happen often?", "I remember seeing a documentary about this. So you remember what it was?", "why did you just repeat what they said but in different words?", "This is also the piece of shit that left Amazon reviews of his torture tools, \"joking\" about the ways he would use them.", "https://www.jbhe.com/features/49_college_admissions-test.html\n\n“Blacks from families with incomes of more than $100,000 had a mean SAT score that was 85 points below the mean score for whites from all income levels, 139 points below the mean score of whites from families at the same income level, and 10 points below the average score of white students from families whose income was less than $10,000.”\n\nSo yes… yes there is. Let the mental gymnastics begin.", "A", "How would this be tested", "Yea this being the forth time.", "This was the most recent update I could find.\n\nhttps://www.lapdonline.org/newsroom/update-on-explosion-involving-illegal-fireworks-on-27th-street-nr21246jc/\n\nOf course their link to the ATF report blaming them for their failure doesn't work.", "There's alive and there's living. Oven if you are living when you walk out the odds that you are ever alive is still small, I'm willing to bet.", "Nah man just weird shit.", "Maybe on the top 10 subreddits. (Although as a leftist I can assure you, it’s liberal at best) the amount of misogyny and xenophobia and racism and incel Dom I see on this website has me questioning my use of it damn near every day.", "They found her based on cell phone location, would that be the first thing they checked!?\n\nOh wait, that’s not accounting for this [actual footage of the parents asking about the status of the investigation of their missing kids after 59 days](https://youtu.be/pBcNpXmr-Ps)", "you're an idiot", "I don't believe you.", "Ok Yoda.", "nobody is born bad, and you can make everyone bad when raising them.\n\nLook at wolf chidren, they act like wolves, because they're raised by wolves.", "Drove her fiance to suicide and is a domestic abuser? Why would you care?", "Not really? What exactly are you parsing out of that, bubumamajuju?", "Most certainly on the top 10. Liberal at best? I regularly see posts on r/politics saying that conservatives are domestic terrorists. That’s as radical as it gets. You must be very far left. Say anything critical of the left or any of their idols, or anything that might be considered pro-conservative and you will likely be banned. I was banned for saying that racism against white people is still racism. The stated reason for my banning? Racism. Classic radical leftist logic.", "And one of the dipshits decides to leave his water bottle on the first thing he comes across when entering the container. Absolutely no thought to preserving a crime scene.", "I was expecting this reply :p Somehow, it didn't feel complete without adding the word 'alive'.", "Dunno the size of the store but most sell a lot of bikes. You’d have dozens of customers a month. And the ones who purchase aren’t usually the disgruntled ones.", "Nah that’s liberal shit. Sure there are some cringey leftists too but if they aren’t bringing it back to how capitalism is the root cause they’re just on some lib shit. Like to talk about all these things that offend them but when it comes time to vote and sacrifice what they benefit from they’re nowhere to be seen.", "She went further beyond that.\n\nShe made her captor feel she was sexiualyinterested in him, to give him a fantasy. In the interageration, she told him to buy all this bdsm stuff and give her a cat bed and stuff.", "I remember reading a book that mentioned the method but said ammonia rather than cocaine.", "Calling a Gixxer 600 a superbike is just as bad, maybe worse. lol", "Thanks!", "It’s leftist shit. You’re trying to distance yourself from it but it’s the platform that your party operates on. Call yourself leftist, liberal whatever, you all act this way. You’re sitting here on your computer talking about how capitalism is evil, I had to roll my eyes at that one.", "Look at this sad, pathetic ideologue running away from the truth.\n\nEdit: No, but you're definitely full of something, and it smells a lot like shit.", "I’m parsing that it directly contradicts your smug baseless assertion that the racial achievement gap magically goes away when you control for economic status. It doesn’t. It’s objectively still there in a huge way when you control for income.", "I was never taught what to do if I’m being attacked, but I think I can help with the prevention part. Whenever I get into an Uber (male or female) I sit in the front seat and make conversation. Being interested in others and genuinely caring about their lives makes you more human, more liked and less likely to be harassed. At least in my experience. I respond to drugged up homeless people in the same matter, treating them as equals while also continuing on my way. People don’t like being treated less than and it’s amazing the kind of people you’ll meet or connect with just living your life like this. The really crazy ones I’ve met over the years only responded to me badly when I was having an off day and was short with them. Kindness always goes a long way.", "I read it as someone would spend so long trying to open it (to steal something) that they'd give up before breaking it. Doesn't seem sinister unless you know the story really.", "Yes. That level of composure comes at a price.", "Something like this I imagine: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1559-1816.1980.tb00729.x", "Glibness, narcissism, he's got bpd.", "Yeah he got it after serving 14 years in prison for kidnapping lol", "Shit are those murders the ones that happened at a motorcycle repair shop? I might be mixing it up with another case", "He also had time to kill people at a bike shop too. Crazy pos", "The Superbike Motorsports murders were the most chilling part of the Kohlhepp case for me. \n\nHe executed 3 men and a woman in the middle of the day, because they laughed at him for not knowing how to ride a motorcycle he bought.", "Thos sounds like serial killing bragging rights. He said he tried to tell the FBI and police but it was \"blown off\"... sure buddy. And at this point he doesnt want to give more info. If anything these kinda guys want to have a higher number because to them it's an accomplishment.", "I was gonna say I feel like it wouldn't be too hard to be a successful serial killer if you didn't do any of the extravagant Hollywood serial killer shit, did it in random towns that you don't live in, and stuck to the lower rungs of society.\n\nHell, BTK didn't do any of those things and still he probably would've gotten away with if it he hadn't decided to start fucking with the cops again. \nEd Kemper had to turn himself in. \nAnd the Golden State Killer was only caught years after the fact with aid of genealogical DNA databases. \n\nGranted those are all decades old cases so it's probably much more difficult nowadays but still totally plausible.", "Yikes, it’s just their perspective. \n\nCops are people too btw.. just in case you didn’t know", "Yeah, C-PTSD is something you don't come back from. It changes you. You basically cope your way through existing. I hope she finds goodness in the world, trust, and love in people again. But even when she does, it'll be shakey.", "I don't know exactly why but I feel like her making it out alive after others died just cuz of one guy's whims is similar to when women somehow make it out of China or Republican households.", "How is it legal to show this here?", "Would you mind saving me some time and telling me how he even abducted them??? This story is crazy", "I saw recently none of the donations have been allocated to the Turpins. \n\nThere needs to be something out there to help people coming back from these situations. I so wonder though If DV Places can help in situations like this.", "Lack of reporting is usually taken into account when those statistics are calculated and the data *really* doesn't support numbers that high.", "Empathy, a lot people can feel it. You seem to be missing that emotion :(", "All these men coming at her.\n\nNot being sexist, but....\n\nHaving been the plaything of a \"man\", she would have benefited from a female first responder..\n\n\nThey couldn't find one female to enter and give care?", "I was against capital punishment before reading about this guy because [it costs taxpayers significantly more](https://www.leg.state.nv.us/App/NELIS/REL/76th2011/ExhibitDocument/OpenExhibitDocument?exhibitId=17686&fileDownloadName=h041211ab501_pescetta.pdf) for death penalties than it does to convict somebody for life, studies show that [black men are more likely to be sentenced to death penalties](https://www.aclu.org/other/race-and-death-penalty) (especially when there is an alleged white victim) than white men who commit the same crimes, and since 1973, [at least 186 people](https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/policy-issues/innocence) on death row have been found innocent. \nAfter reading about Todd Kohlhepp, I'm now against the death penalty because this motherfucker doesn't deserve to get the easy way out. He doesn't deserve to rest in peace.", "ISIS taking you hostage and you’re screaming about a fire.", "Holy fuck. This piece of shit had been around for that freaking long after having killed in 2003 and 2004. Fuck", "which denomination?", "I love JCS. Just wish they'd upload more frequently.", "Great revenge movie plot, a nice twist on the tired I Spit On Your Grave approach.", "Yeah sorry, don't give a shit about domestic abusers.", "What the fuck is wrong with you?", "I believe it's because of the YouTube's monetization policy. Less cuss words > higher % monetization since it opens up more potential advertisers.", "White men have all sorts of privileges that men of color don't, and it's led to them behaving in ways that men of color generally can't because of said privileges.", "Got my broker's license back in the late 2000s. It's some low-hanging fruit, believe me.", "She was locked in a box for 2 months and raped daily you knob… can probably cut her some slack.\n\nBut don’t be sorry! You just proved my point. You lack the basic emotion of empathy. Telltale sign of a narcissist and/or sociopath.\n\nDumb ass", "600s are supersports too. thats what a ‘superbike’ is: a supersport. nothing wrong with that. :) gixxers just always seem to attract a certain category of people: “stuntahs”, “ridahs”, etc. squids in flip flops.", "You are fucking olympic long jumping to conclusions about someone who went through something worse than you have ever imagined.", "Who's the dumbass? Guess we'll just excuse every transgression as long as you were the victim of a crime once. Dipshit idea.\n\nWonder how the boyfriend feels being a victim of DV. Is he free to now abuse anyone he pleases?\n\nI don't feel sorry for her the same way I wouldn't feel sorry for the boyfriend if he perpetuated the violence.", "This comment just seems so out of place here it's hilarious.", "We have no info on that case other than she was arrested. We don’t know the context, the situation, the outcome. But we know what happened to Kala. \n\nInstead of giving someone the benefit of the doubt and showing some empathy you talk about how victimized the punched boyfriend was… lol.\n\nFuck dude just say it now, you hate women.", "Rewatch the start and watch the dude in orange get told to stop contaminating the scene by the guy with the camera", "Exactly what does gender have to do with this? If a man were the victim of the same crime I'd say the same thing.\n\nYou deserve an Olympic medal for mental gymnastics for that conclusion", "You know disagreeing doesn't mean you're smug right? \n\nSo what's the reason for it?", "He was incredibly stupid. I watched a video going through this case and he did a lot of dumb shit like this, her family knew something was wrong for ages because he kept trying to make fake posts that were obviously not her.", "The guy who called into Howard Stern's show basically described his MO that way. He would just pick off random people that no one would miss, often prostitutes who couldn't exactly go to the police.", "Actually it's called a logical fallacy", "Go back to your paramilitary cosplaying. It’s really sad to me that people with your mindset exist. I hope you get some mental help.", "Paramility? Leave the Para out.", "psychedelics, toad, shrooms, ayahuascs, mdma therapy all work in these immensely traumatic experiences", ">She lived because she went along with everything (~~sex~~ rape mostly) and never upset her kidnapper.\n\nFtfy", "OP did you just watch the lil' stinkers episode about this or is it just a giant coincidence?", "Is this the Amazon review killer?", "Took me 5 years.", "Especially after American Police entered it.", "So your military cosplaying? Thanks for your service! I’m sure the oil companies appreciate it. \n\nTool.", "He was arrested 5 years ago, why had I never seen this video and now suddenly this is the third time i see it this week. Strange.", "You reek of soy and group think.", "Keep in mind before her imprisonment, Todd shot and killed her bf right in front of her", "The irony in this comment… are you projecting cause it seems to be that you allowed yourself to be manipulated into servitude and are so brainwashed you just get in line with the rest of your camouflaged sheep.\n\nYou say this person deserves no empathy for being raped for 2 months because she hit her boyfriend. You are stupid and dangerous.", "LOL. Is this satire? I got a free TS/SCI and a free undergrad degree w a masters on the way while you sat on a couch pretending to be superior. Who's laughing 😂🤣", "Sounds like socialism to me scum.", "Bold of you to assume my political leanings. Bold, indeed.", "Those same cops could murder you and then be “fired” or not, with no further punishment. This dystopia sucks.", "How am I assuming anything? You just said you let the government pay for your education. Communist.\n\nYou’re welcome for that tax paid education. Freeloader", "dude, dont worry, if anything pops out you get to shoot it and then have the best sex of your life!", "Yea. That combined with her survival instinct and composure when this murderer is raping her and killing in front of her. She’s a G", "I understand why people are downvoting. The subject-matter here,is heavy af and what u/____X____ said up there actually has a lot of gravitas … which really just highlights even more that the end of what he said is the way Yoda talks.\n\nAnd yeah it’s bad-taste to bring it up. But at the same time, you just can’t not. Impossible, it is.", "Yep, that's me. Thanks for the education btw. 😘", "It's literally police evidence", ">after lying about the felony charge on his application\n\nSeems like a glaring loophole if that was a possibility.", "This was my first thought. Although I would prefer to require male cops to have the emotional awareness and professionalism to behave differently instead of requiring women to be present.", "Realistically, it was probably his religion that caused it. Christianity’s punishment for rape is way harsher for the rape victim than for the rapist. This of course led to purity culture. Which is Christians considering the only value comes from women being virgins and good wives/mothers. Girls are told from birth if they have sex once before marriage, touch themselves or get raped, they might as well just die and go to hell already.", "You’re welcome! I’m happy to see my tax dollars going to work. Just wish your parents had raised you better so that you could feel empathy. Or maybe it’s not their fault, and you’ve been conditioned by the other camp-sheep into your line of thinking. Either way, failing to have empathy isn’t a good sign. I wouldn’t be surprised if you end up having a sex dungeon in the woods someday. Just remember, they are people just like you.. whether you think they deserve empathy or not they are people. Good luck out there soldier. Try not to rape anyone.", "You sound educated af", "Idk, not if you start tripping back to being stuck there. Like these things can end so badly, its a fine line.", "Oh god why did the camera man say \"Just hang loose for me\"", "It's not that good tbh, considering the film suddenly switched gears midway completely threw me off and I ended up feeling meh", "It qualifies as a decent chunk of money 7 years ago in BFE.", "Yep those are the ones.", "I would too. But let’s face it…the world is a long way from that.", ">His mom even said it in an interview as if they were in the wrong for hurting his feelings. \n\nGee, can't imagine how he turned out like this...", "ITT: tons of people who actually knew him or had some connection to him. \n\nThis is the first time I’ve seen this many people connect to a post like this. Insane.", "How long was this one held captive for?", "Why wouldn't it be?", "Damn didn’t even know this was a thing and I might be dealing with it 😭 is there more branches/areas of ptsd as well?", "50 out of 300 million or so people is actually a pretty impressive percentage if it were the case. Obviously more than 50.", "Could you imagine getting out of this and then just immediately being thrown into life like fuck I am homeless or have any money or food I mean I hope family will be there but you never know this is so fucked", "\"blue wall of silence\"\n\nwhat are your thoughts on \"snitches get stitches\"? Interesting how you're silent on that. Exactly what I thought.\n\n\"History of cops shooting innocent people\"\n\nHmm, gonna need some sort of actual source. In a country that has 15 million police interactions every year, there were on average only like 15 total \"unarmed\" shootings, and half of them still involve attacking the officers.\n\nDo I really need to spell this one out for you?", "How long was this poor girl there", "they are forgivinh for beginners, especially with trauma", "How is it jUsT a JoKe BrO, when it's clearly trying to make the assumption that people expected the cops to just randomly shoot the girl. Actual fucking smooth brain take \n\nSo yes, one of the many reasons why Reddit is intolerable. Hard for you to comprehend, I know.", "UN-BREAKABLE!! SHE ALIVE DAMMIT!! ITS A MIRACLE!!", "My friend and I just watched his documentary this past week. It was clear, as a viewer, that he was self-absorbed and willing to drag these incidents out and these people along (including those poor interrogators), all for his own satisfaction, gratification, and attention.", "I’m sure she had practiced what she would say in that moment several times, but the fact that she got it all out that clearly after the hell she went through is still mind blowing to me.", "And people think you have to die to go to hell..", "Can confirm. I am coasting through life on copium and my supply is dwindling", "Oof. Heavy joke of the entire comment section right here. \n\nUpvoting simply because you went for it.", "I just said what they said, but again and longer.\n\nJokes aside I also mentioned that I'd you're being moved try to leave evidence behind. An id or bank card somewhere can help the authorities with where to look, get cctv footage of a car or the like.", "The Bobby Hill method. \"I don't know you!\" \"That's my purse!\"", "You have to remember there's only like twelve people on reddit who actually own a home.", "Be careful with choice of words. \"Should have expected\" and \"deserved\" are two different things.", "Canoe salesman and Pakistani dentists were also quite numerous if memory serves me correctly.", "That's communism or something though.\n\nIn reality the government should provide adequate healthcare both physical and mental for everybody.", "Except maybe don’t fly to the most dangerous place on earth? \n\nWhat the fuck did she think was going to happen?", "I get the impression he is bragging and exaggerating about his kill count, and police didn't investigate further because there wasn't any reason to believe it. Bragging about doing evil things is something sociopaths often do.", "Tbh, I never thought anyone near me even used reddit. What an insane way to connect with your neighbors lol.", "Just FYI, he was only a cop from May 73 to July of 79. He committed his last murder in May of 86.", "'Poor sérail killer, you have to empathize with him, his mother abused him.'", "There’s no point, these people are the people who say they want to save the children, then are the first ones to hop on to Epstein’s plane with Trump.", "i was thinking the same thing man shes so strong to be able to get that out i can tell shes holding back tears at the end", "Fuck", "If you're already for certain going to spend life in prison/execution anyway, may as well boast about it. Must be a relief after needing to keep it a secret for so long, keeping it all just in your head.", "Not OP but if you can, urinate and defecate yourself. A lot of attackers will be too grossed out to continue.", "Have you ever even taken the time to actually watch him or do you just regurgitate things you have no proof on?", "I don’t think hitler started “all of that.” Anti semitism was apparent in England, America, Russia, and pretty much every other country too. He was merely a matchstick in a room of dynamite. It was going off no matter what.", "I didn't say otherwise, I simply stated that he was a cop... Which he was.", "Yeah, that’s the point in rehabilitation. You’d rather the death sentence?", "suspects", "When you're having an episode do you have desires? Do you feel any emotions?", "Why the fuck does it matter if you got a vag or penis, grow up", "This woman was held and raped for two months after he killed her bf.", "What??? Front seat of an Uber. No don’t do this.\n\nEdit: I have to laugh because if the women in the video followed your advice… well….", "\"NWA said fuck the police, now I'm in jail.\"", "Ok, why?\n\nEdit to your edit: way to blame the victim for being kidnapped you soulless ass.", "That’s dark", "I'd always ALWAYS struggled to try and figure out what the heck was going on with me. People who have PTSD can get treatment, can work through it, can process it, but sometimes, its so ingrained, so fundemental to your growth as a human and the way you navigate the world that it becomes you. And it be a positive and a negative. \n\nTo others it might look weird, the \"dumb\" things you have to do, and the seemingly out-of-field things that stress you, and often times the ones that don't.\n\nI think a lot of C-PTSD, because it doesn't exist in the DSM-V (it was in there, but they took it out) gets diagnosed as Borderline Personality Disorder. But while I struggled to see how that fit, when someone on here brought up C-PTSD and I went on a freaking journey reading and understanding as much as I could, and then talking to my Psychologist and Doctor about it. And while there would be no way to Diagnose me, since it wasn't in the DSM-V, they both agreed that the fact that it was in the ICD-11 Beta (and it made it into the ICD-11!) and that I met almost ALL of the diagnostic criteria, that there was no more befitting prognosis. Officially its PTSD, but anyone who knows realizes thats Pre-School PTSD compared to what I have.\n\nProtip, it isn't easy. A lot of it relies in knowing your triggers, understand the causes behind them, paying attention. And then from there you build a toolset of how to navigate, because you still need to live. You have a certain set of cards, and acknowledging that you can't play the same game as everyone else, but that that is okay. Its hard to have a positive mindset about it, but just know that it DOES get better. It really does. I've been in the negatives, and it got better. Hard fought, plenty of loss and sorrow along the way, which just tends to compound, but don't give up, and try not to feel like you're alone, even if it might feel like it. Its okay if others don't understand, sometimes they can't, but it doesn't mean they don't care.\n\nIf you can't afford to see a Therapist, you're best bet is to make friends, and hobbies, within your capacity, at your own pace. With C-PTSD, I find, its like the opposite of quicksand, where the less you move the faster you sink. Try and move forward, onward and upward, and don't forget to acknowledge that even the tiniest bit is something, and it counts!", "Sounds like Stockholm syndrome.", "That’s just not true for everyone. I’m far from a beginner and every time I’ve done shrooms it’s made me sad. I and have depression so MDMA isn’t a good idea for people with my brain chemistry", "It’s a hard watch, especially him talking about why he murdered each person. He has an excuse for everything.", "Plenty of people can casually shoot someone. It's not even hard, really. The emotional reckoning, if it happens, often comes afterwards.", "But you're here. Still. And when thats all you've got, its something. And in this case, its far better than nothing. I don't know how old you are, or how your truama effects you, but something that really got me on the right track to getting to be okay, with periodic bouts of doing good, is to 1) acknowledge that its not you failing (which is my problem, I'm my biggest critic), and 2) understanding that it isn't your fault, that its okay to be angry, and upset, but not to take it out on yourself, as best as you can. I still do... but your best defense is to know yourself. Take time, whenever you can to look at how you are reacting to something, internalize, figure out, as best you can the reason why, and think about how to deal with that in your capacity.\n\nBut you made it. I made it. I'm probably 10 years behind everyone else, in terms of where I should really be, in the basics of life, but I'm not those people, and it wasn't my choice, so I'm doing the best I can, and thats all you need to do. Even if you might think that to someone else it seems like their equivalent of the worst, don't pay any mind to them, its okay to acknowledge it, but, don't let it bring you down.\n\nI'm not a Doctor, or a Therapist, and I've seen plenty of both, sometimes effective, sometimes regressive, its a mixed bag. When you go home, when you go to bed, when you sit on the couch, all you have is you, and if you've made it this far, clearly you're doing something right! So keep it up!", "Sounds like god is a real piece of shit", "It is dangerous if the driver is armed. He can’t point a gun behind him. You can quite literally sock him in the head from behind. If you’re sitting next to an armed driver, sure you can roll out of a car, but he might shoot at you. It is dangerous for the driver if you are armed (the driver doesn’t know). Treating a threat of a person humanely isn’t going to stop them from abducting or harming you.", "Scary and really sad to think of how many of these are out there still yet to be found. 😢", "They have a Patreon with a shitload of extra content for like a dollar a month", "Thank you, it genuinely means a lot to me that you took the time to send me that message. I will try.", "Fentanyl addict here. I had to be hospitalized during my withdrawal, I had a dilaudid drip in me and still wanted to die. It’s no joke even under the best of circumstances, which I kinda had. My heart breaks for this girl I wish I could do something for her family", "Heck yeah! Sometimes, trying is all you can do, its okay to stumble, but you might not make it to the top of the mountain, a good way to look at it, is to look back and see how far you've climbed.", "Also, love that username haha, the good ol' TF2 days.", "god is your boss as well and you should love and fear him at the same time, deus vult!\n\n\n\n/s", "I've come to the conclusion that I'm forever different than normal, socialized humans now. People that haven't been through similar aren't able to relate.\n\nI've survived a similar incident, without the murders. It's not that I'm dissociated, it's that's I've seen the bottom of things, so nothing touches me as much as those incidents did. Therapy, emdr, meditation, etc... They do their job, but there's no way to put humpty dumpty together again yet. Hopefully in the future", "I’m so sorry you had to go through that. If you don’t mind me asking, how much were you using a day? I’m not sure how much my best friend was using, as she shot up in private and then I would come check on her and find her nodded out, but I do know she had to be hospitalized the first time she went through withdrawals, after a 2 year habit. She was using needles, but started by snorting it and before that, snorting pain pills.\n\nETA: I only ask because I have another friend who is trying to get clean and I’m doing everything I can for them. I took them to see a counselor and social worker; got them inpatient and outpatient numbers and services. They want to do it at home and then start on medicine, like methadone or subutex, and I’m afraid they might hurt theirselves by trying to get clean at home.", "Yep, and once you're past the incidents, that sticks with you", "Also I’m so proud that you got sober. It’s the little things in life that we get to be happy about, but that feat right there is a BIG win, not one of those little things, so hold on to that and don’t ever let go. I wish you the best of luck with everything <3 you’re awesome!", "Mm I beg to differ. I’ve gotten myself in a lot of super dangerous situations over the years. Not many people out there are just picking people up Willy Nilly with hand guns waiting to pick up random chicks to rape or murder. It might be a luck of the draw, but living your life like everyone is a potential friend will ALWAYS be your best option. Sitting in the front seat gives you the ability to genuinely connect, establish immediate trust, and if needed in the rare case... grab the wheel, or disable the driver even temporarily. I’d always go with the kindness route first. We don’t live in episodes of murder docs.", "How about that time the police literally firebombed an entire block", "Not much money compared to other land, but still not many people could afford to buy it. That's the gatekeeping part", "They were trying to make some extra scratch and Kala used to clean houses for him, so he told them to meet him on his property and he’d pay them to clear brush. He killed her boyfriend right off the bat, just shot him and then held Kala captive in this shipping container. He would go once a day to rape and feed her. When he was being interrogated he admitted to other horrific crimes.", "Same. Some really horrible trauma, almost exactly like hers. Theres probably pictures and videos out there somewhere of me as a little 10 year old doing some things I still don't even talk to people about, and I likely never will. \n\nBut I will say, that reading what you wrote just now, and KNOWING in my very being what its like, is... well I'm sad that you had to go through it, but, theres something in that \"you don't even need to tell me\" kind of intuitive sharing that is hard to describe.\n\nSometimes, that broken, mess of a shell all dumpty'd out, is just an abstract work of art in its own right, and maybe it takes others who 'know' to see it that way.", "He hired Kala and her boyfriend for some brush clearing work or cleanup work on his property after offering her some solo work previously. They arrived, he went to grab \"tools\" or something, came back with a gun and killed her boyfriend immediately.", "Yes he had done it before…sadly he ended up killing her tho.", "If you go by percentage of population, it shb 54 blacks killed. Police went way over their quota.", "You're an infant. I hope you get to experience your world without police", "The Wikipedia on him says he has an above-average \"118\" IQ. Sure. \nI'm gonna assume he took one of those quick online assessments.", "We don't live in Disney musicals either.", "Guess we received very different training? Unless you are specifically talking about capture by a non-military force like a terrorist group? Article III of the Code of Conduct says:\n\n\"If I am captured I will continue to resist by all means available. I will make every effort to escape and aid others to escape. I will accept neither parole nor special favors from the enemy.\"\n\nA civilian hostage situation is completely different from a POW situation. Civilian hostages typically aren't operating under a risk of group/organizational failures if they don't resist. SERE will teach you not to antagonize your captors, but by no means should you aid them or give in to any demand or supply information which can compromise the mission.\n\nIf you get captured by a force which doesn't recognize the Geneva Convention, you can do what you can to return with honor and what your personal morality will allow I guess.", "Not a fan of Disney or musicals, but thanks for your opinion??", "Yes. Worked on Cell.", "It'll cause the dogs pain or sensory issues if they step in it or sniff too much of it and they won't be able to smell anything, aka other bodies that are buried all over his property. He planted red pepper everywhere specifically to mess with dogs being used to search his property.", "118 is smart enough to know you're likely above average in terms of intelligence but dumb enough to think you're the smartest person in the room.", "You know both of you are just displaying selective empathy, right? You're being a cunt to him for empathising with DV victims but not Kala, while he's being a cunt to you for empathising with Kalah but not him. Assuming it's a him.\n\nBeing a cunt and holding perceived lack of empathy over someone is not an empathetic act.", "A lot of women who have been sexually assaulted feel safer with a woman. I’m talking from experience. You grow up.", "Why are you suggesting the other commenter isn't basing it off her testimony? Clearly you don't know shit about the case and you haven't looked into anything so you aren't in any position to be suggesting whos testimony others are basing things off of.", "The woman’s question was regarding giving her daughter advice to protect herself. If you’re getting yourself in dangerous situations, maybe you should say you don’t have advice.", "I am kinda surprised there are this many Greer/Duncan/Moore/Sugar Tit peeps in here but at the same time, lots of third shift plants in this area because of BMW. Lots of us awake despite being the middle of the night.", "Carry a knife. Aim for the balls and the jugular. Don’t run at night.", "Really? Because I’ve been in dangerous situations in the past and gracefully got myself through them, I’m not capable of giving advice? I think that makes me more than qualified to give good advice. Maybe you should get out in the world and stop creating imaginary scenarios and how you “would” respond to them.", "Ouch. It's not that far out.", "No lol", "The wiki says that her boyfriend was killed because the killer was mad at her", "Lmfao I live in Philadelphia. I lived in north Philadelphia for 7 years. Please stop.\n\nEdit: lmfao you win. You win.", "Was also adamant it wasn't rape. He told her, \"I don't believe in rape, but if you don't want sex, you're no use to me, and I'll kill you.\" Absolute piece of shit, I couldn't finish this documentary. Partially because he's so vile, but also because I can't stand the narrator.\n\nHe puts so much emphasis on every other word and constantly throws out completely baseless conjecture. It felt like they didn't think I would come to the conclusion that he was a horrible person on my own, so they had to add in a bunch of their own opinion.", "Good for you? That area is a shithole. I’ll leave you with your misery.\n\nEdit AFTER your edit: kindly fuck off and talk to someone. Maybe an Uber driver", ">Police killed 457 white people in 2020\n\nThis needs to be top so piece of shit redditors like the one you replied to don't get to top.", "Probably heard stuff like that a thousand times before", "Yeah they should only let one guy go in first, preferably naked so that she can see he is unarmed.", "The only other docs I’ve watched about him were Dateline which just like a glossed over version of the story this one gave a bit more insight.", "That's rude. She's chained! How's she gonna take a shower??", "Because trauma fucks up ppl, and not everyones lives are like yours.\n\nShe's probably a very traumatized and hurt person, and she deserves a better chance at life and deserves help.\n\nBeing raped, being assaulted, seeing other people get killed by a fucking murderer, that shit will wreck someone up. She deserves help and empathy.", "it is shock", "Nah, they’ll all be too chatted up by you!\n\nEdit: I love how you act all righteous in being kind to people but just called north Philadelphia a shit hole. Do you not like the community, are you afraid of it? Don’t fall off your soap box after you’re done shitting on the people below you on it.", "I read this comment in Yodas voice", "Poor kala...to this day she has it rough...", "Dude calm down with your edits. Add a new comment or don’t at all. This is exhausting, I’m not better than anyone but I don’t appreciate you or your personality. If you take me talking down about a geographical area personally... I’d look inward. Please stop with your edits it’s past 2 am here meaning it’s 5 there.", "So what can you or i do about it? Just be sick? Honestly curious if theres a way to help", "Hard to believe that these people call themself professionally trained law enforcement officers. Even cab drivers are better trained in Germany.", "Scary AF! Glad she was rescued.", "Do you think most rapists have great childhoods? Do you think most babe them aren't traumatized themselves? What do you think happens to most child rape victims? Did you know that a large percentage go on to rape themselves?\n\nDo we just excuse this because of their victim hood status? Please tell.", "You sound uninformed.", "You're so hilariously a victim of being spoon-fed your entire ideology that the entire thing is comical. Everything, down to the way you write, is indicative of a person without thought.", "Out of the two of us, I'm the only one advocating to not rape or commit violent acts on our fellow man. You're the one making excuses for piles of shit 😉", "Seems afraid to be referred to as racist.", "Not everybody needs therapy, she might be perfectly fine", "Oh JFC goodnight 🙄", "You need cognitive dissonance to work in real estate. They directly contribute to market bubbles, house prices and rent prices.", "Thats very much it. I've had some experiences where everything normal fell away and what was left was like a cold whatever... just deal with it.", "Good for you for getting off the xanax. I think I irreversibly damaged my brain, not in a way anyone can tell but like I am so certain I will have dementia caused by benzo use. My grandpa has it from alcohol & he was sober before I was even born. I used xanax for 15 years & the amounts are just insane. I'm talking 30 bars, at once. I could take 60 bars in 1 day. I don't do anything, now besides weed, I won't even take a sip of beer but it's a fear that's always in the back of my mind.", "Yeah all I could think of was how terrifying it must be for a person in Kala's position to have half a dozen large men come charging into your cage.", "You’re right they should have killed her and the guy who just ran over 3 babies on sight !", "I’m dumb", "If the worst experience I have with cops is them asking me a bad question that's not too bad", ">According to the Spartanburg Herald Journal, Kohlhepp was just 15 years old in 1986 when he held a 14-year-old girl at gunpoint and forced her to go to his house, where he tied her up and raped her. He was sentenced to 15 years of incarceration and had to register as a sex offender. He was released in 2001 and moved to South Carolina. \n\n>Only two years later, he killed four employees at Superbike Motorsports after they rubbed him the wrong way following his purchase of a Suzuki motorcycle.\n\nI mean - the police didn't go through the recent customers of the store and go 'oh hey look, a violent sex offender who lives nearby and just got out of prison was here recently'???", "We tried to use cayenne (red) pepper to stop our dogs digging a 15 years back. We didn't use much. \n\nI'll say this: it takes less red pepper to irritate a dog enough to make them scratch their hair out than it does to get them to stop digging when they really want to. So not much.", "It's rough to read your comments. You are amazing from pushing through and surviving. I've had a traumatic childhood, but I suspect it pales in comparison to your experiences, so I can't pretend to understand. \n\nStill, I'd like to ask have you read or listened to a book called The Body Keeps the Score? I think it helped me on how to approach my trauma. It approaches trauma as a physiological change in our bodies and also about undoing that trauma. It's written by Bessel van der Kolk, who is a psychiatrist and a researcher who has devoted his career to understanding trauma. I'm not saying it's \"a cure\", but I found the book helpful in some ways. (Or actually a great listen, it had a really good narrator on audible).", "literally true but go off I guess [https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/31/us/capitol-riot-arrests-active-military-veterans-soh/index.html](https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/31/us/capitol-riot-arrests-active-military-veterans-soh/index.html)\n\ne: eh, your comment history. Nasty piece of work. Blocked.", "Just hang loose yeah?", "If they have been on suboxone, before, they probably know how to do it, at home. By the 2nd or 3rd time your on it, you pretty much know when you can take it. The issue, now, is people are still having precipitated withdrawals, 24/48/60 hours after last use because all these fentanyl analogs are different. We don't have a database with all their chemical make up so even going into a detox, they could make you wait 48 hours & you still could go into precips. \nThis is what I did, after I relapsed, after lock down (had 3.5+ years, relapsed for like half a year & have over half a year off it, again) - I got my suboxones (it's way easier to get a script rn, if your state still has those temp laws for scripts) & I waited 24 hours (neurontin can really help during this time - but as with benzos, they work on the GABA receptors). I felt like shit but made it & started with a 2mg piece & took that. Wait like 30 mins & see how they feel. If they feel fine, you can take a bit more. If they're thrown into precips, tell them you can get them out of it & this is how - you cut the strip down to 1mg pieces & take 1 every 30 - 40 mins until it builds up in your system enough & takes the precips away. It can take a while but it'll get them out of it without using. Also, less is more with suboxone. I used to get 3 8s a day! Now, I get 8 & it seems to work better.\nThere's sublocade, too & one of my friends is on it. He relapses more than anyone I know so the shot is better for him. It is the shot with bupe (the opiod), not just naloxone (the \"blocker\" - even though it's not what blocks your receptors - the bupe does). You gotta get it like 1x a month but it takes the choice away from the addict, throughout the month because you aren't feeling shit, even if you do use & you can just stop it like pills, it has to work it's way out of your system over a month.\n\nGood luck, man! I have been through it, myself & have helped a lot of others go through withdrawals. Shit is tough. I'm glad your friend has you.", "Fuck.", "Jobs as seen in FBI arrest records. Also, bye.", "I don’t really know, but probably not much. For mental health treatments to work, the person has to be receptive to the treatment, but for someone who’s been through something like this, there’s probably just no way for them to be receptive to the treatments. Then again, mental health care is terrible in the US and SC doesn’t do well even by those standards, either.\n\nWhich is more of what makes this whole thing so gross. She’s free and Kohlhepp isn’t, but at the same time, she isn’t free and prison is mostly a cake walk for him.", "I suspect the flavour is different in the UK, but of the dozens and dozens of estate agents I have used - just one was really good. I still remember his name. The guy I bought with was okay mainly because he'd been doing it for years and years. The rest were a mixture of dishonest and/or stupid. My favourite was when they were so stupid they couldn't realise their lies were obvious - I particularly remember some guy trying to tell me that 'a lot of people' find pre-pay electricity meters (situated outside of the flat!) 'convenient'.", "She reminds me of a NPC ngl", "What was the comment?", "I always thought life breaks us so we can fill in the cracks with better stuff, I’m so sorry for what happened to you. The putting the pieces back together is the most important work in life.", "Local sheriff's offices are the worst when it comes to bumbling incompetence. And most run unopposed.", "There was a person in reddit who stole this story and posted it as them.\nPulled up the info and called them out and they refused to acknowledge their lies.", "Nope.\nDisassociate", "I have this from shit that happened to me my entire life.\n\nI'm screwed. I've been screwed.\n\nFuck", "According to his Wikipedia page he had to lie about his criminal history to get it", "Same. But there's no video and when I told my mom she told me to not tell anyone so they never got caught", "If you never want to sleep again go listen to a reenactment of \"The Toy-Box Killer\" AKA David Parker Ray's recording he would play for his victims when they where waking up from being drugged and kidnapped.\n\nMotherfucked had a heart attack the second he got in prison.", "No because they probably won't pay them equally and they're probably harassed by their male coworkers anyway.", "I'll take a look. One thing that really helped me was reading into the inspiration for Logotherapy, developed by Viktor Frankl, a holocaust survivor. I'm a few steps removed from that level of trauma, but, it did strike me, how my coping mechanisms were a lot like his. Sort of an \"Aha!\" moment way back in 2009 when I really was first able to stop and get out of survival mode and start working on things a bit. \n\nThats another thing as well, a lot of people are stuck in it, because that is where they're at. They can't get out of the trauma. And for those people I empathize, and it fills my heart with dread. I hope people get the chance to breath, its what I wish for anyone who experiences ANY level or degree of trauma. \n\nBut thank you, again, for the suggestion!", "“Victim blame” stfu lol, maybe don’t go to an active fucking war zone?", "I recently realized that maybe I can choose to care or not about my flashbacks", "They don't even take care of soldiers so good luck.", "These cops seem shit.. no empathy at all\n\n“Do you know where your buddy is”\n\nJesus Christ man, train your damn police force", "The way I've thought about it is that the brain breaks like a bone, but it doesn't heal in the same way. Especially when you're developing, and the trauma doesn't stop. Its kind of like when you ride a bicycle, you never really forget, and even though you might not actively be riding one, when you do, you just do it. \n\nTo me its like the brain 'sets' in a different way. Almost like a mode of operation. For me, hypervigilance is the name of the game. I can't not do it. Its just the way I'm wired. Horror games, and movies? Can't do it. It revs me up, and locks me into that hyped up adrenaline, and it doesn't stop.\n\nHere's the strange thing... before I was sent to the place where that stuff happened? Horror was my everything. I loved it. I liked being scared, it was so fun, it was a rush. But its because I had nothing to be afraid of. Its why people find that thrilling. For me it engages that part of my brain wired for defense, even though it wasn't always that way. Its tiresome and it wears me out, so I really don't seek it out. The Hobbit life for me, quaint, quiet, small, and serene.", "She was white", "Man, misspelling in the first sentence", "Knowing what american cops are like that woulnt be too reassuring to be honest.", "Yo I have no idea what they said cause it’s deleted but realtors actually are historically responsible for some of that stuff and more besides https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/620709/", "Very adaptive approach, ty for sharing your experiences\n\nShutout for viktor frankl as well, man's search for meaning puts things in perspective", "eli5?", "Especially in that* shithole state", "It's only a joke if someone thinks it's funny. Someone with a brain.", "🤔", "“All is well. Kala was off her medicine, and she had an altercation with a friend which has been resolved,” Jenny Dial, a spokesperson for Brown, said in an email to The Greenville News.\n\nThe altercation: \n\n\"An incident report states Brown told deputies that Moore was living with her for less than two weeks. They began to argue about an animal being in the house when Brown told Moore to leave, according to the report.\n\nJames then 'bucked' his chest into her and stated 'make me,'\" the incident report states. Kala then explained she struck James in the face with a closed fist at which point he grabbed her throwing her into the ground and placing her into a choke hold.\"\n\n\n\"After the fight, Brown and Moore drove to a QuikTrip store on Augusta Road to buy cigarettes, the report states. There, Brown ran away from the vehicle and called law enforcement, according to the report.\"\n\n\n\"The criminal domestic violence third degree charge, a misdemeanor, is Brown's only criminal offense in South Carolina, according to her criminal background obtained from the State Law Enforcement Division.\"", "And the dumbass cops didn't bother checking the cell pings for like a month after she was reported missing.", "Didn't he boast that he killed a whole bunch more people at his estate but no evidence of that was found?", "A therapist really should be present. These people screaming in her face questions when she has a chain around her neck. She’s been kidnapped and in solitary confinement traumatized and raped repeatedly can you give her a minute and 200% a medical professional for mental health needs to be there to help handle the situation but I guess sometimes they aren’t always available in these types of situations", "Wtf she dress to flashy and moved away from home unmarried totally valid reasons to be exposed to this.\n\nSome people disgust me more than others and those who blame the victims of sexual abuse are some of the worst.", "I watched this a few months back. Wasn’t it the motorcycle shop killings he bragged about? And what’s more disgusting about not only bragging about killing them but the motif that lead to it. He would essentially go to the shop to hangout and the workers there made him feel inferior so he came back and killed em all.", "Why wouldn't he?", "Bro but that's communism", "Because \"Human dignity is inviolable\" to start with.\nThis is not a scripted reality show. This is a traumatized victim who needs protection and safety, not publicity.", "Why is this video oriented so terribly?", "Rip it’s tongue out. This way it lives but can’t radicalize Germany.", "2 Senators for every state.. I'm lookin' at you, Zodiac..", "Uh, sure kid", "Imagine being so closed minded about this, typical americans", "Thanks for sharing. I kind of am beginning to think that people who talk about \"total recovery\" are not taking long-term child abuse into account. My brain grew wrong. I will never have the benefits of secure attachment to a parent. I don't think any therapy can possibly fix that completely. It can help me not freak out as much at a trigger and identify maladaptive coping mechanisms, but I really don't believe anyone or anything could ever make me feel like a real valuable person who actually matters. I don't hate myself, but my brain is just set that way.", "I read a similar book but I can’t remember the name for the life of me. Do you know by chance??", "Pretty sure it's meant as in maybe she grabbed something to get him next time he came to rape her and him saying please don't stab me in my goddamn neck because I'm here to save you not what you're insinuating you stupid fucking ret@rd", "He was talking about her boyfriend that he murdered her buddy was her boyfriend you stupid mongoloid", "\"Hang loose for me\"\n\nFuckin savage.", "seriously. It's a bunch of bros busting in there and it takes a while before they even say \"you'll be OK\"", "Possibly very valid and true", "Yeah we can smell your asshole too but nobody's complaining", "I lived like one county over and I thought that was bad enough. Couldn’t imagine them being my neighbor", "This is several years old. She's already killed a new boyfriend and assaulted the current one (was just in court about it)", "Felt like a bro hero fest where everyone wanted to be the first to jump in. I hope they at least talked to her through the walls to get ready at least, but nothing from the video indicates they did anything other than bust in and point their guns.", "This is the best video on it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GL8gk3b2L8", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GL8gk3b2L8", "> police killed 241 black people in the same year.\n\nDAMN,\n\nYou've totally got me here, I guess that means that black people accounting for a higher percentage compared to their demographic means nothing?\n\n> [The rate of fatal police shootings among Black Americans was much higher than that for any other ethnicity, standing at 35 fatal shootings per million of the population as of March 2021](https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/#:~:text=In%202020%2C%20there%20were%201%2C021%20fatal%20police%20shootings%2C,million%20of%20the%20population%20as%20of%20March%202021.)", "She knew him before their interaction as well, possibly for years. and her last bf killed himside with a knife in the gut (probably her), and her current one is in court because she was assaulting him. Both seem like jerks.", "Really glad that demographics are all equal and can be equally compared when it comes to deaths.", "Racism?", "[https://www.greenvilleonline.com/story/news/local/south-carolina/2019/02/19/kala-brown-issues-public-statement-fiance-adam-maysons-death/2914698002/](https://www.greenvilleonline.com/story/news/local/south-carolina/2019/02/19/kala-brown-issues-public-statement-fiance-adam-maysons-death/2914698002/)\n\n[https://www.greenvilleonline.com/story/news/2019/02/18/kala-brown-boyfriend-adam-mayson/2904663002/](https://www.greenvilleonline.com/story/news/2019/02/18/kala-brown-boyfriend-adam-mayson/2904663002/)\n\n[https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/victim-of-serial-killer-todd-kohlhepp-charged-with-domestic-violence/](https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/victim-of-serial-killer-todd-kohlhepp-charged-with-domestic-violence/)\n\n&#x200B;\n\nlearning about anyone involved in this story makes you not care for them.", "Lol yeah let the police be incompetent by themselves. Fucking piling in there as soon as it's open jfc", "\"you know where your buddy's at?\"\n\nWTF DUDE", "If you watch the peoples earlier videos, you can see they're extremely scatterbrained and constantly repeat themselves like they're high/drunk... for them, that video is actually well done & probably scripted", "I've had people here actually blame me for only reporting my childhood molester years after it had happened.\n\nI was a child when it happened and I didn't even realize it until years later.\n\nI was lucky that it never got as far as rape, my parents had a big unrelated fight and stopped being friends when I was around 10 or 11. I feel like a year more and he would've gone further.\n\nI did report it to the police so that there was a paper trail should someone else also report him. I was under no delusion that just my word would be enough for an investigation since so much time had passed. I definitely understand why some would refuse to report though. I talked with two women who were specialized in sexual assault cases, I don't think all police stations have such a thing.", "The boy & girl that run the channel are seen in like 50 of their earlier videos. Their thoughts are just very unorganized.", "> Yeah, C-PTSD is something you don't come back from. It changes you. You basically cope your way through existing.\n\nWhat can I do for someone with C-PTSD? \nMy partner has recently been diagnosed due to decade long childhood trauma. I try to be there as much as I can for them, but they're still coming to grips with what happened due to years of repression and dissociation. \nWe have a great routine when suffering dissociation and flashbacks, but I wonder if there's anything you could shed light on outside of that. I want their life to be as normal as humanly possible, but it's really new to me and I don't know what else I can do to help.", "https://www.greenvilleonline.com/story/news/local/south-carolina/2019/02/19/kala-brown-issues-public-statement-fiance-adam-maysons-death/2914698002/ \nhttps://www.greenvilleonline.com/story/news/2019/02/18/kala-brown-boyfriend-adam-mayson/2904663002/ \n[https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/victim-of-serial-killer-todd-kohlhepp-charged-with-domestic-violence/](https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/victim-of-serial-killer-todd-kohlhepp-charged-with-domestic-violence/)\n\nalso terrifying", "It's on the outskirts of Chesnee dude. Yes it is lol.", "That's not even the comment you quoted lol.\n\nBecause the original comment ruins your narrative.", "Why do some people feel the need to talk like movie announcers in their videos? It's so hard to concentrate on anything happening when this guy is doing his best Duke Nukem impression.", "The movie is in such a weird way homoerotic", "I think he said something about having killed a lot more people to his mom, but they haven't found any that I'm aware of.", "Important to note OP's post is from 4 years ago\n\nTodd was a serial killer (3 people mostly confirmed). Definitely a rapist. His number isn't known and several of his kills aren't 100% proven to be his and many detectives think the major one he claimed was his is actually not him, because it isn't similar to anything else he's done. The sheriff was up for re-election so they assume he just threw that unsolved case in to call it his.\n\nKala knew him before their encounter, we don't know the exact details of everything but the fbi/police might. The story of the encounter other people have posted so \\insert those posts here\\ and afterwards... She has since most likely killed her fiance and had domestic abuse vs her new boyfriend:\n\n[https://www.greenvilleonline.com/story/news/local/south-carolina/2019/02/19/kala-brown-issues-public-statement-fiance-adam-maysons-death/2914698002/](https://www.greenvilleonline.com/story/news/local/south-carolina/2019/02/19/kala-brown-issues-public-statement-fiance-adam-maysons-death/2914698002/)[https://www.greenvilleonline.com/story/news/2019/02/18/kala-brown-boyfriend-adam-mayson/2904663002/](https://www.greenvilleonline.com/story/news/2019/02/18/kala-brown-boyfriend-adam-mayson/2904663002/)[https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/victim-of-serial-killer-todd-kohlhepp-charged-with-domestic-violence/](https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/victim-of-serial-killer-todd-kohlhepp-charged-with-domestic-violence/)", "In 2001, I lived in Simpsonville, SC and we'd drive 30 minutes to Duncan for their indoor skatepark. It was the CBGB of South Carolina's skateboarding scene. Anyone who was anyone was there. The kid with spikes on his jacket, the skinny white kid with way too big of clothes that always smelled like an entire weed plant, the one black skateboarder in all the Carolinas, a 40 year old truck driver who is for some reason the best skateboarder I've seen in my life in person to this day???? I mean this guy would pull up in his big rig and hop down looking like a Burger King Charlie Manson and would dive 22 feet up a vert wall and slash salad grinds from one end of the park to the other end of upstate SC. He gave me my first shot of Jack Daniel's and taught me how to love a man with my mouth. I know the comment is out of place, but seeing the word Duncan, SC brings back a lot of memories, even some that should be repressed.", "Todd needed to know, his interview shows him saying he'll admit to the murders but not to rape because \"he gave her options\" for about 30 minutes... and them seemingly agreeing enough to it. \n\nI don't think he has the mental capacity to learn that, though.", "No though, she didn’t. Both her and the newest boyfriend were charged with domestic violence against each other and her previous fiance died of self-inflicted stab wounds. Sounds like Kala has had an exceptionally hard life.", "Is being a real estate agent a special job? Like what is your point", "No one else is going to tell you this, so I'll tell you.\n\nIt's time to move out of your mom's house.", "UNBREAKABLE...They alive, dammit! IT'S A MIRACLE!\n\nOf course, things like this make you question the appropriateness of a show like The Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt.", "Are you reddit nerds going to run this Norm joke I to the ground like every other joke you discover?", "Yea and in many female self defense classes they tell you not to kick the groin but instead stomp on feet because you can \"permanently damage\" the guy.. if it's a male attacking you, rip his fucking balls off his body.\n\nHonestly if some guy had me in that situation I'd \"give him a bj\" and bite his dick off.", "K", "Are you reddit nerds going to run this Norm joke into the ground like every other joke you discover?", "Even if a case doesn’t go through, the builds a record in case he does it again. It’s why I always suggest it for victims but I understand everyone has different levels of what they are capable of handling. Courtrooms can be hard places seeing your assault against and the potential for loosing can make one feel like what was the point. But I just wanted to add there is a point. If not for prior court cases, as an example, my neighbor’s case probably wouldn’t have gone through but seeing him accused of the same thing multiple times changed the court’s opinion. I read your other comment and respect her decision just wanted to put that out there that it CAN make a difference even if you don’t see it in your case", "The channel Casual Criminalist on YT/Spotify has an episode about this case „The Amazon Review Killer“ it’s a highly interesting case, and the Review about the Locks is not the only disturbing one on his profile. \n\nGive us a listen/watch. It’s really good.", "50/50\n\n[https://www.greenvilleonline.com/story/news/local/south-carolina/2019/02/19/kala-brown-issues-public-statement-fiance-adam-maysons-death/2914698002/](https://www.greenvilleonline.com/story/news/local/south-carolina/2019/02/19/kala-brown-issues-public-statement-fiance-adam-maysons-death/2914698002/)\n\n[https://www.greenvilleonline.com/story/news/2019/02/18/kala-brown-boyfriend-adam-mayson/2904663002/](https://www.greenvilleonline.com/story/news/2019/02/18/kala-brown-boyfriend-adam-mayson/2904663002/)\n\nhttps://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/victim-of-serial-killer-todd-kohlhepp-charged-with-domestic-violence/", "No, It perfectly illustrates it. \n\nUnless you think there are equal black and white people in the US? \n\nDo you?", "He didn't \"self inflict a stabbing in his chest\". Also their messages after the case show she knew Todd years before the kidnapping as well.\n\n[https://www.greenvilleonline.com/story/news/local/south-carolina/2019/02/19/kala-brown-issues-public-statement-fiance-adam-maysons-death/2914698002/](https://www.greenvilleonline.com/story/news/local/south-carolina/2019/02/19/kala-brown-issues-public-statement-fiance-adam-maysons-death/2914698002/)\n\n[https://www.greenvilleonline.com/story/news/2019/02/18/kala-brown-boyfriend-adam-mayson/2904663002/](https://www.greenvilleonline.com/story/news/2019/02/18/kala-brown-boyfriend-adam-mayson/2904663002/)\n\n[https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/victim-of-serial-killer-todd-kohlhepp-charged-with-domestic-violence/](https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/victim-of-serial-killer-todd-kohlhepp-charged-with-domestic-violence/)\n\nshe's violent, and in the years to come she'll probably get caught for murder as well.", "Retired firefighter here. If you are that jumpy you have no business being a first responder. Period. \n\nIf you can't act like a professional when it's stressful go do something else.", "A cop was filming", "No, but that wasn't the point you made.\n\nHe showed you white people can also be victims of police brutality. Which you don't appear to believe for some reason.", "Yer a bit of a doucher, pal.", "Article I read had the boyfriend charged and fined the same as her, seems it wasn’t a one-sided event.", "I'm Finnish.", "Isn’t he the same guy who left weird reviews on Amazon?", "[Most convicted child molesters claim to have been molested for sympathy, less than 10% actually were](https://defendinnocence.org/child-sexual-abuse-risk-reduction/sexual-development-at-all-ages/concerning-behavior/myth-abused-becoming-abusers/)", "Which could have been collected with empathy instead of 6 stooges", "The stupid cop asked if the slave that was tied up if she had any weapons. Fucking dipshits.", ">Christianity’s punishment for rape is way harsher for the rape victim than for the rapist. \n\n\nWhen I first read your comment I downvoted it because I thought it was false so I went on a google expedition and I'm sad to say it isn't. \n\n\nThe only somewhat silver lining is the Bible is so full of contradictions on rape that it's difficult to know what stance to consider.\n\n\nSome cases the rapist is stoned to death. In other cases he's forced to marry his victim which to me is far worse to the victim. I'm genuinely saddened the Bible isn't more clear on such a heinous crime.\n\n\nIslam is quite clear cut. The rapist is executed and the victim is paid the mahr (money paid by a groom to the bride at marriage) she would have been entitled to from his estate as damages.\n\n\nThe reason she receives a Mahr is because for legal access to intercourse you have to marry her so she's entitled to financial restitution of the value of what was stolen. The reason he's executed is for the crime of taking it by force.", "Tbh having someone chained in a shipping container for months that you go to rape is scarier to me......", "The \"calamari\"", "“I looked into the case”\n\nLol so you watched the dateline episode about it?", "Sonny, you'd be absolutely shocked what you can get away with using the power of lies.", "LoL", "He really didn't. anti-Semitism and volkism were all prevelant in the Germanic world", "> No, but that wasn't the point you made.\n\nYeah it was. \n\n> The rate of fatal police shootings among Black Americans was much higher than that for any other ethnicity, standing at 35 fatal shootings per million of the population as of March 2021\n\nI am guessing you ignored that?\n\n> He showed you white people can also be victims of police brutality.\n\nNo one said white people CANNOT be victims of police brutality. \n\nNice strawman you made. \n\n> He showed you white people can also be victims of police brutality.\n\nWhere did I claim you cannot be a victim of police brutality because you are white? \n\nYou also missed the part where I said she was chained to a fucking wall, but I am guessing that doesn't fit YOUR narrative here. lol.", "This is one of the best moments in investigation history! I only wish all were able to be saved like this.", "Hi stranger. I hope you are well today. \nMy husband has had incredible results with ketamine trauma therapy for his childhood of abuses. I wanted to pass this along in hopes it might help you too. Send me a PM if you would like more information. I hope you find peace.", "I just cannot even begin to imagine the relief felt when one is rescued from such a horrific situation. It must be akin to finding god or something like that. Man…", "I think it's retarded that you think that's a real threat. Too many movies.", "\"Just hang loose for me\" wtf she is cuffed to a serial killers dungeon. Hang loose? Glad this guy wasnt the first to step foot on the moon.", "You literally said this:\n\n>She's a white girl chained the the wall. There was never a risk here.\n\nWhich is your original comment. And you clearly don't know what strawman means.", "Why would the first two stories have any influence on someone's opinion of her? Her boyfriend killed himself, don't think you can blame her for that.", "Yeah and all the cheesey stock footage and music. It's super distasteful to make something so corny about a real person's life who was horrible and unfathomably ruined. Fuck this guy.", "Haha cheers", "I cannot express how sorry I am that happened. I’m sure you’ve heard all the advice from people much more equipped than I am to give it but I would say only this. Try to remember that along with the bottom, all the dirt and grime, there is sunlight at the top. To have such horrific evil there must be the most impressive bravery, helpfulness and just GOOD out there as well.", "100% yes", "Gruesome true crime podcasts did this one. Such a fascinating case.", "Quite the terrifying thought.", "Dude shut up they’re literally rescuing someone give it a break", "It’s actually mind blowing how toxic and stupid people are nowadays. You are included in that statement", "Oh hey, Mitch is on TV... AND THERES THE SAIGON WHORE WHO BIT MY NOSE OFF!!!!", "I had a friend go through a (forgive the gallows 'humor' but the cops called it a \"an old-fashioned rape.\"\n\nThis guy snuck into her bedroom window and repeatedly assaulted her - over a period of days. It was her family home and the family was there.\n\nNo DNA back then. It wasn't common practice at the time.\n\nThe guy gets caught, finally. But that didn't resolve anything for her.\n\nShe had Christian fundamentalist issues like \"she's damaged goods and will never find a husband\" (we went to the same very tiny church affiliation and a husband was what women were trained to seek) and she was \\messed\\ up.\n\nShe was a little \"colorful\" and \"free willed\" for our religious culture so if it wasn't for the serial rapes of others, her case would have been low priority.\n\nShe had similar experiences to your friend; there was just no point to do much else and she felt she just needed to move on.", "She lies a lot in the todd case, and is lying there too. You don't put a knife through your chest during suicide, that's someone else that does that to you. Todd's an absolute piece of shit, she's just a piece of shit.\n\nPeople like you guys falling for her story also fall for stories like Ghislaine Maxwell saying she had nothing to do with Epstein and he tricked her.", "The coroner and police disagree with you. I'm going to trust them over a random person.", "It was called [Number the Stars.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_the_Stars) , I did some light looking into it and they mentioned it in the book but it also happened in real life. I was worried that I was quoting fiction", "It's hard to blow off that he was bragging to someone he probably was never going to let leave alive about being near triple digits and the FBI being like...nahhh", "Yea they also failed to find anything and anyone and pinned a mass murder on Todd when investigators said it was unlikely to be him as it doesn't match any other murders he's done.", "....have you heard from her since?", "Flexing his security clearance. What a goof. Lol", "He's referring to her boyfriend you troglodyte", "\"SHES GOT A CHAIN, SHOOT HER!\"\n\n- 'mericuh cops", "Go sniff some red pepper and you tell me what something 10,000-100,000 more sensitive might experience.", "This is why my seven year old goes to the range with me. Thankfully she loves guns and her Jiu Jitsu classes. I know some people don't like firearms, but all woman should have a means to protect themselves at all times. OC spray, and staying out of \"condition white\" is 99% of the time, enough to save yourself.", "That would be sweet but nah, obviously their priorities are bailing out companies and banks time and time again after they keep fucking up.", "You moved the goalposts from one video being enough to hate police to hundreds of videos lmao", "Most likely spread it all over the property just to keep people looking, he was that kind of guy. He only has 1 person he for sure killed, 2 he very likely killed (99%) (unless they found those bodies, didn't look that up) and the rest are debated on but pinned on him cuz the sheriff was up for re-election", "\"But bitch I'm off the chain like Kala Brown\" -Em", "\"whoops\"", "Did r/politics give you that ban?\n\nI don't think that's classic leftist. Someone like Kamala Harris might say something like that. She's not a leftist she's a liberal.", "I mean, he kidnapped, raped a girl at gunpoint, and threatened to murder her whole family as a fifteen year old. He should not be allowed to hold a job where he is alone with women in empty or remote houses. I work with formerly incarcerated men, and I don't know a single one who would not say the same thing.\n\nAside from that, he'd been in and out of mental institutions since he was a toddler due to his violent and explosive behavior, the judge and his probation officer wrote in their court papers that they felt that he would not be able to be rehabilitated, and he was a registered sex offender.", "Oh, that was Secret Window, right? Just watched that the other day.\nLiterally everyone in town knew what he did because of the situation and days leading up to it so when his ex wife and her boyfriend go missing everyone knows he was involved but there was no evidence. It was funny how he'd wander around town acting like they were the weird ones for being afraid around a known murderer.\nEdit:a word", "That would be a bit difficult since I don’t know where this took place, who the victim is, the abuser, or whether it actually occurred beyond internet hearsay.", "If it's the movie I'm thinking of they knew because he started going sort of crazy at the beginning of the movie. His wife had been cheating and now it's a year or so later and they're finalizing their divorce and his wife is happily with the lover. Main character slowly goes crazy then finally at the end he kills both the wife and boyfriend and buries them in his yard. So that's the issue. He'd already been talking with the police(about about things he was imagining) so they knew he wasn't doing well plus it was a small town so they all knew what had happened between him and his wife. So they knew he had killed her but there was no proof and no way to legally get it(like digging up the bodies out of his backyard)", "So many people fucked in the head on this website. What is popular on reddit sometimes, like this, hopefully keeps others thinking about opinions that get highly upvoted here, instead of just mindlessly following the pack. It's pretty damn funny to see but also a bit disturbing.", "Don't try to make it look like they did nothing to him. Killing them is OBVIOUSLY wrong, but fuck man, \"all because\"? It's pretty fair to hold bad feelings towards people who openly mock you.", "Oh what did you actually get a ticket and that's why you hate cops?", "Lol... you think this guy is anything. Steven Parker Ray still makes me sick. Leonard Lake and Charles Ng have a video out there of their victims.", "Putting a lot of added unnecessary info. \n\nHe wasn’t a secret serial killer and secret rapist and secret hitman. He was a serial killer. Simple as that. \n\nIt was a podcast I heard a while ago that tied a lot of things together and I can’t recall all the details but his proficiency and efficiency with guns. The police originally thought it was more than one shooter at motorcycle shop because of how spread out the victims were and yet none had a chance to get away. \n\nHe also disclosed some, but not all his victims. Seemingly just the ones on his property. All those were killed for his enjoyment. So why have a completely separate burial ground for the unnamed victims, if the one on your property was seemingly fine for however long he was doing this? Why not talk about the others or give info?\n\nThere was a lot of other circumstantial evidences the podcast went over to tie the theory of him being more than just a serial killer. \n\nBut at end of day it’s just a theory. No big deal and no reason to get obnoxious about it.", "I'm actually a huge skateboarder from that era just no where near SC. So actually kinda a cool story thank you!", "Lil stinkers got me interested in the video. No coincidence.", "I genuinely hope no one ends up in any situation remotely like this. Read Dan Schillings power of awareness. He does a good job at explaining how to see underlying clues that may save your life. Andbmost of these stories are druggings. Men and woman alike, NEVER LEAVE YOUR DRINK UNATTENEDED!. Need to use the restroom, down your drink or leave it and order another. That simple.", "If you have to have a thesis to explain a slogan then maybe the slogan is bad?", "Easy to say knowing that he is dead. If buddy was tied up somewhere else I’m sure he would want that question answered as soon as possible", "I mean, it reads like you're downplaying the racial aspect by saying \"it's really just poverty!\"\n\nWhile, yes, poverty is one of the main driving factors, poverty is being forced on them due to their race.", "So the only options you see here are real estate agent or death? That argument is so pointless that I won't address it further. Instead I'll address that you're citing his potential rehabilitation as a reason that he should be able to hold this licensure. We'll have to ignore, of course, that the US penal system is not- and never has been- about rehabilitation at all. I work with many people fighting to change that, but we're not there yet. Anyway, to address your rehabilitation claim:\n\nWould you say the same if he'd gotten his teaching license instead? Shouldn't he be allowed unfettered access to children now that he's served his sentence? Shouldn't we give him a chance to prove that he's been rehabilitated by putting vulnerable people in his care?\n\nWomen already have to fear being alone in a house or apartment with a man they don't know, they should at least be able to feel safe in the knowledge that the person taking them to empty or remote houses is not already a registered sex offender with a lifelong penchant for extreme violence. Would you honestly be comfortable with your daughter having a real estate agent with Todd Kohlhepp's 2006 criminal record showing her around on her own?", "Nah. Just kill him and be done with it.", "Could you fuckin imagine if everyone believed that and went on their day? What a nightmare.", "Catching a murderer 13 years late > talking shit and posting porn on reddit", "This is a far more typical response (the \"calmness\"). Most people don't go through something this traumatic or know anyone who has so when they imagine the normal immediate emotional response, they imagine a movie scene with tears and gratitude spilling all over the place. \n\nThat misunderstanding of what emotions can look like leads people to make crazy conclusions about what guilt, remorse, trauma, even relief, really look like. This is aside from what shock might look like in that same person. I'm sure you've heard things like \"we said her spouse died and she didn't even cry.\" \n\nTldr: Emotions are super idiosyncratic outside of TV and their physical expressions are often much more muted", "you are active in r/antiwork \n\nironic for you to be mocking socialism when that entire sub is degenerate losers who want a free ride through life without having to work a single day", "Perfect realtor material.", "I don't believe that rehabilitation is the goal of the US criminal justice system. I believe that people should be given the chance to be rehabilitated, but that the criminal justice system does not make an actual effort to do so at this time. Todd Kohlhepp had been in and out of mental institutions since he was three years old due to his violent behaviors. So, I don't know how much good it would've done for him specifically, however the vast majority of incarcerated folks would majorly benefit from therapy, social emotional learning, and mediation training-- ESPECIALLY in juvenile detention centers. We don't do anything like that.\n\nWe force incarcerated people to work for pennies so they (and their family on the outside) end up saddled with a load of debt, the only \"job training\" currently in US prisons doesn't actually give them real certifications but made up ones that aren't useful in the workforce, they aren't eligible for food stamps until they've left, which means they often don't have access to food for three weeks after release and forces them back into old lifestyles to get by, and mental health resources in prison are treated like something only \"actually insane\" people and fakers use and therefore should be avoided at all costs.\n\nNone of that would rehabilitate anyone, because it's not meant to. Todd kohlhepp served his time, sure. But registered sex offenders have different rules for a reason. Unfettered access to vulnerable people is against those rules for a reason.", "Holy fuck", "Thank you for this ❤️🙏", "Thanks, this was most informative response!", "I'm just watching the [youtube documentary](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GL8gk3b2L8) shared in the comments so maybe it explains it but did they search the property extensively afterwards?", "\"Pinned it on him\" the man literally brought it up himself and confessed", "Youre a fucking piece of shit", "No, he claimed he did it. Watch the videos. He brags about all kinds of shit and makes up stuff for several hours. Many people in his situations claim they have \"huge body counts\" etc to brag and boost their ego/fan base (in their crazy heads).. you're obviously not familiar with this at all. We've been studying it since \"profiling\" was created in 1970s witth Ted Bundy.\n\nClaiming you do stuff isn't \"confessing to doing something\" plenty of the guys lie about killing 20 people at location \\_\\_\\_ that never existed. Todd chose an unsolved case that likely wasn't him (according to professionals) and the sheriff said it was him, because he was up for re-election and solving their biggest case made him look better.", "Hitler was a reflection of the hatred of the German people. He was a charismatic speaker because he knew how to read a crowd. He may have been the one to the point the finger at the jews but there was going to be a finger pointed somewhere.", "Reddit. Where simple facts get downvoted.", "No problem. I actually watched all of the videos, documentaries, summaries, and read private investigator reports years ago. and that new short one that just came out (that was linked by other people)... From the looks of it most people answering stuff skimmed 1 paragraph of some article. \n\nIt's an interesting case because the \"mass shooting\" Todd claimed he did, was very unlikely him as professional profilers / fbi said. But the Sheriff was up for re-election (as I said) so they just threw that on him as well, since he claimed he did it anyway. \n\nIt's interesting to think about how many times this has happened while other killers go free. We know most serial killers claim body counts far beyond what we ever find of theirs.", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVxesoegPC4", "Quoth the Raven, \"What's up EWU crew!?\"", "I could be wrong on this. But he said that there were more bodies buried on the property. There are a few murders that were unsolved. I don't know if they found anything. I didn't keep up with it all that well.", "Yea you're right. What could we possibly know about entering situations where we could die a sudden and horrible death yet still have to do our jobs? I mean it's not like we do it a few times a week as opposed to maybe a handful of times in your career like police officers.\n\nLOL you know how many EMTs get stabbed? Grow up.", "Because they sell hundreds of bikes and have no reason to believe any particular customer was the murderer. It only makes sense in retrospect because of everything you now know about this guy.", "Never said it was good. But it’s not the bogey man the right has made it out to be. Dems always suck with labeling and marketing.", "Not banned, that's the wrong word as that implies laws stopped it. They were taken down, the gang was okay with that decision, but felt they didn't do anything wrong as the joke was it was a terrible thing to do", "Agreed, i'd consider myself somewhat anti-police too, but fucking-A the reddit cop-hating circle jerk on posts like this is a bit disgusting. And comes off as really out of touch. I get that it's a joke, maybe i'm taking it to seriously, but damn.", "Just watched the video for this article about his mothers passing. It's people.com so may not be a good source but he gives a different story. Apparently Todd said his bike was stolen and the staff made fun of him saying the second one would be stolen as well. Who knows what was really said...\n\nHe says that the cops \"ruled out an irate customer\" because they thought it was the husband of one of the victims (Beverly Guy).\n\nHe also mentions that they mishandled some DNA during that investigation.\n\nhttps://people.com/crime/south-carolina-serial-killer-todd-kohlhepp-mom-dead/", "I'm literally a victim of police violence, and I think it's a bit over the top.", "Imagine if the kidnapper had rigged up one of the double-barrel-shotgun-door-traps and one of them got slugged right as they opened the hatch", "Yeah I’m pretty sure being a firefighter is more dangerous", "I thought \"defund the police\" was the mantra of those further left than the democrats?", "I was smoking about a gram/ gram and a half in a 24 period. I was in withdrawal for about 8 hours when I got taken to the hospital. I know opioid withdrawal won’t kill you so I really resisted and spent some time trying to leave the hospital. I honestly think they put me on the dilaudid drip to shut me up and keep me in bed. But hey it worked better than the morphine they had me on so I’m grateful. I started suboxone probably 24-36 hours after my last hit of fentanyl and I was off the dilaudid for about 12-16 hours before starting the subs. It’s nice you want to help your friend. I really hate this more than anything I’ve ever done. I don’t want to be sober but I don’t want to hurt people. So it looks like I’ll just live in abject misery and everyone around me can just tell me how proud they are until I overdosed and die.", "YouTube video. You can learn a lot on YouTube.\n\nNot sure why you are laughing at me for learning about things. I’m not saying I was a detective on the case or anything.", "Rape is unwanted sex. No need to fix anything.\n\nUnless you are saying rape isn’t sexual intercourse (sex).", "I think…search “Amazon review killer” on YouTube", "The amount of people in this thread that are loosely connected to this case is quite puzzling.", "The US prison system is so broken. It's not even about punishment and certainly not about rehabilitation. The entire system is built around prisoners as a commodity.", "Oh yeah. Now I remember that I watched it there.", "The worst part is that it's not broken-- it's working exactly as intended. Unfortunately, the way it \"works\" only benefits a select few who profit off of constitutionally legalized slavery.", "see my earlier comment", "People want to survive, it's a valid question for everyone's safety. If you have the opportunity to fashion a home made weapon while you're being held hostage you're going to take that opportunity.", "Try to give a proper/general definition of rape without mentioning sex (or sexual intercourse).\n\nI’d imagine you’d have an extremely hard time.", "He bought it months before.", "Yep. He stabbed himself right in the chest.", "Your comment hurt the weak.", "For a “smart” guy, he sure acted real dumb.", "That was a really sad attempt at the moral high ground here. Ok cutie you've been fun. Have a good one.", "You got me at the end there. But I also have thought the same thing. I’m just scared of any diseases they may have.", "No I don't, but there's a difference between punching someone and raping a child. \n\nDid she fuck up, yes, but you're so fucking driven by false equivalency.", "I’m glad she was rescued but it really bothers me after knowing she was held in captivity like that, they didn’t have a female officer on site to approach her first. Good on them though for the way they handled it otherwise.", "JustUs System", "She needs to go to a remote island somewhere and just chill at a beach for several years being pampered and given lots of margaritas and mai tais.", "I now understand the context behind the Eminem lyric.", "I meant to add a why there. It wasnt a statement lol, I wanted to know too. Apparently it fucks up their noses so they cant smell bodies.", "We all clicked on it, including you, so I guess that makes us all a little guilty of perpetuating this.", "This poor girl", "No you are advocating that if someone has ever committed a crime or been accused of committing a crime that they deserve no empathy.\n\nYou reek of contempt for civilians btw. Being in the military doesn’t make you better than anyone else… it just means you chose to get your head shaved right out of high school.\n\n\nWhen exactly did I advocate for people to be raped or violent? I simply said humans deserve empathy.\n\nYou are a narcissistic brainwashed drone of the government without empathy and yet you think you are morally superior? Hahahahahaha", "I have also been through a similar situation and I completely agree with your saying “forever different”. I’m almost able to live a normal life, despite the ptsd and drug addiction I now have as a result of my experience, but even in the most normal situations when I’m doing well, I have a different world view, I have different life experience, I’ve been through things that not a single person I know can relate to. It’s extremely difficult to get past when you can’t even share with anyone who understands.", "Hopefully none", "Wtf? No fucking way. Maybe 1 or 2 but over a million? What the fucj", "Reddit hates cops like racists hate minorities", "Don’t even think it was that. Sounded like someone was asking him to grab something else. So even those watching this bumblefuck immediately drop a used water bottle onto a pile of potentially viable evidence we’re clueless.", "That humans deserve empathy? No that came from just being a good person.", "Says, “Just hang loose!” to a woman chained to a wall by her neck.", "Well yeah that's obviously a more horrific ordeal to go through, but I find it equally horrific that he executed 4 people on broad daylight for doing something as minuscule as laughing at him.", "Thanks for the exttra info. I don't remember what my source was, as it was back when they first found him. I just vividly remember his mom's attitude on it was sad af.", "Holding bad feelings toward a group of people is different than executing 4 strangers in broad daylight because they laughed at you.\n\nIf you think that even partially justifies his actions, then I genuinely urge you to seek help.", "Well of course they’d be dead. You waited a week and did nothing.", "thanks!", "maybe.", "Statistically that is 1 in 300 so its plausible", "Is it!?! How are people not getting caught daily", "Just imagine how many humans are locked up in basements/sheds right now.", "wow how does everyone know hamilton", "Apparently, they [can be identified by brain scans](https://www.med.wisc.edu/news-and-events/2011/november/psychopaths-brains-differences-structure-function/). Research has been conducted in to that.", "Dang. We got way too many stray cats. Gonna need to research if it works on felines too. \nUh.. but yea ...god what a horrific situation.", "They are", "I’d be curious if a very large dose of Psilocybin would have any impact at all in situations like this or a series of psilocybin experiences.", "Imagine how much money it will cost the government to keep that guy imprisoned until he dies. \n\nThat kind of money could actually be helping the victims.", "I can't find the study that link is referring to right now, but I remember reading it and wasn't it the case that 10% is still like, 5 times higher than the average population? Meaning that while it's not a certainty that abuse means you'll be an abuser, abusers do tend to be abused more than the general population.", "Here's the one I watched starts right off with the part I'm talking about. https://youtu.be/4GL8gk3b2L8 . It's an hour and 26 minutes long, but it's free and probably has more info that the discovery doc someone was talking about.", "Sources??", "I'm local to that incident and I'm so angry that they are blaming it all on the guy who had the fireworks in the first place. It isn't his fault that the cops were incompetent and wanted to show off. It's not his fault that the cops didn't clear the buildings properly. \nThe cops are taking no blame for anything that they did, and all those poor people aren't getting anything. Their homes, cars, mental health, etc. all destroyed and the cops won't grow a backbone and take responsibility (as usual.)", "I agree with your sentiment and although I do think a lot of cops ARE bastards I think it is weirdly fucked up to see a video of cops doing good are still being scrutinized by arm chair analysts\n\nI don’t think you should feel too bad though since reddit operates an upvote/downvote system people are less likely to give opinions that are contrary to the popular ones in fear of being downvoted. I do think a lot of the “fucked up” people on this website are still a minority and the majority of people who see this video can be like “oh shit, I guess there are good cops” instead of looking at things in a black and white perspective and insisting that ALL cops are bad.\n\nI’m on break and just rambling lol", "But the cops are a bunch of incompetent clowns", "When I hear stories like this I just can’t believe there were that many guys who are that sick in the same place at the same time. I can’t get four guys together for pizza and beer.", "I have family that lives on the same street as that house. Wild how often we’d pass by that place just not knowing", "No but my parents got a dwarf jack russel that won't stop sniffing my butt", "I was playing wow on voice chat with a girl when this went down. She lived next door to the guy. She was understandably disturbed.", "Seriously man. There seems to be a completely new wave of people on reddit always talking about stuff without links. I remember a time where it was mandatory and we would beat down the people that didn't back their comments with links.", "Actually, that's in a shipping container.", "Just travel back in time a couple days before the father would have done it and nut into the mother to be first. Your child is probably not gonna amount to anything and die alone.", "I thought 120 is average?", "What. Source?", "It's funny how that works ... somehow you can just tell by one sentence that the other person went thru the same traumatic shit you went thru. You both don't have to say anything more, you don't even have to look at each other in the eye -- you just know.\n\nI just wish I didn't go into a thought spiral every time this shit comes up.", "Except I’m clearly not doing the same thing. I’m demonstrating the difference but due to your blind hatred it’s going right past you. I thought we were having pretty civil conversation both having common ground in hating the way liberals act.", "I said county not country or does your comment still apply?", "I was diagnosed last year and it's been all consuming. Trusting anyone feels like jumping off a cliff. I force myself to keep the basics of life going like working and eating but I feel like I need more support but can't get it from anyone in my life. It's very lonely and frankly I don't know how much longer I can keep up this facade of being a functional adult.", "During SERE training (military survival and torture resistance training), one technique we learn for resisting/surviving torture is to avoid upsetting captors. It's really interesting how she applied that technique to survive her capture situation.", "they barely take care of the people blown in half fighting for their country. \n\nThe government doesnt care about you in general; just the revenue you generate for them. \n\nTbh victims like this should immediately inherit the estate (minus debts) of the perpetrator. \n\nyea they probably dont want to live in or on the property it happened on but it can be sold to help start again.", "A [large cage trap](https://i.imgur.com/OPYDGF8.png) baited with a can of tuna fish works quite well to capture feral cats.", "Yep. I had the same lessons in SERE", "it was a complete shit show on the cops part. \n\n\"Sir should we measure the amount of these explosives so we dont blow up our bomb containment container?\"\n\n\"what are you a pussy? this is murica, stuff it and light it yeeee haw\" \n\nlegitimately the only way i can see that situation playing out and ending that way with out malice or criminal negligence.", "I need to repel these guys though. Have the trap but they get dropped back off after being neutered or spayed by animal control.", "This might be the saddest thing I've seen.\n\n&#x200B;\n\n:(", "depends, id rather just die.", "Losers love trauma. It’s their excuse to stagnate for the rest of their life.", "I’m guessing it’s because we must live in Hamilton", "Scary to consider. But there’s probably more", "Real estate agent isn't exactly an exclusive profession with a lot of background checks required.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nI mean, getting the license is super easy, and no one can stop you from selling a house for someone else if you have the license... right?", "Do you think this makes you sound like a tough guy?", "I can't remember what town it was in, but somewhere in rural Northern Missouri there was some town asshole who was killed in front of a crowd of people and nobody ever told the cops who actually did it. They all just hated the guy so much that they were ok with mob justice for him.", "The patience of the \"good cop\" is actually unfathomable. There's absolutely no way I could do that when listening to the heinous grandstanding murder tales. Watching the interview I 100% believe that the only reason he was forthcoming was because of blue shirt guy's demeanor.", "YouTube Amazon Killer", "You’re welcome , I try humor & sarcasm from time-to-time, but fail.", "Well, all the hispanic children being detained away from their parents in Texas is a good place to start", "You are the weak. 😉", "100 is the standard average I think. 118 is about one \"notch\" above average (one standard deviation) on the IQ scale. Einstein for example had an IQ of maybe 160 (it's uncertain because the scale we use fluctuates with time and also caps out at 160) and that's 4 notches above average, or 4 standard deviations. IQ tests are designed to where the bulk of people who take it acquire roughly a score of 100, so it's not an objective measure, just a measure relative to most people.", "The only thing that goes through my mind is \"am i going to live like this forever\" and am an anxious mess.", "Nope, I’m using the death penalty as an example of what else do you want from someone beyond serving a sentence the court seemed fit? Prison for vengeance sake is pointless. You completely missed my point. I believe in restorative justice.", "Going along with something, knowing that if you don't, you are tortured and/or killed, is certainly unwanted penetration, and thus rape.", ">told the cops they \"would have been proud\" of the how quickly he cleared the building (of unarmed innocent people)\n\nTo be fair, they probably would have been.", "I'll just leave the definition from MW here and you can argue about it:\n\n\"unlawful sexual activity and usually sexual intercourse carried out forcibly or under threat of injury against a person's will or with a person who is beneath a certain age or incapable of valid consent because of mental illness, mental deficiency, intoxication, unconsciousness, or deception\"\n\nThats the first definition online. You are being pedantic. Sex doesn't actually just mean \"making love.\" Sexual intercourse is a big part of \"rape\" among other things.", "comparative demographics is tricky and was not the point of my original post. I was saying responding to the comment that said she was not shot because she was white. police do kill white people. you are right when compared to the general population police kill proportionally more (about 2.5x) African Americans. however it is not that simple. African Americans are far more likely to come into contact with police. so it is not clear that the killings are disproportionate from that perspective. it is an uncomfortable fact the African Americans commit violent crimes at a higher rate than other groups. \n\nthe bottom line is cops kill way to many people. that should be the focus.", ">forcibly or under threat of injury\n\nBeing kidnapped and having to have sex because you are afraid to die, is definitely \"under threat of injury\"", "[new to the internet?](https://www.google.com/search?q=sex+trafficking+arrests&rlz=1C1GGRV_enUS748US749&hl=en&tbm=nws&sxsrf=AOaemvL6JZggOko5FGVofgtJYeKjg9xICQ:1638472165946&source=lnt&tbs=sbd:1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjcl7O76MX0AhVwlIkEHRSdBj4QpwV6BAgBECw&biw=1536&bih=760&dpr=1.25)", "I think you either over estimate IQ meaning, or you don't realize that 118 is not really exceptional", "Wow you’re mad. Take a chill pill kid", "No you", "That’s the problem. It’s not. But they suck so bad at doing this sort of thing it seems that way. It’s a reasonable suggestion to remove armored personal carriers from rural police depts. Each local PD does not need SWAT equipment or helicopters. \n\nDon’t get me wrong, if you were a coastal municipality then yes you should probably have a boat. Or two. If you were wide open municipality like flatlands then yes a helicopter makes sense. What a great majority of cases that defund the police refer to are the over militarization of the police force. That’s all.", "Ken McElroy, Skidmore Missouri.", "And in your statistics that was posted, How many are chained to the fucking wall?\n\nPlease, Explain away that part.", "Man fuck you. \n\n\"The dentist chose their job, so when a psycho chomps down on their hands, whatever they needed is on them.\"\n\n\"The plumber chose their job, so when he unclogs a massive waste pipe and gets covered head to toe in poop, whatever they needed is on them.\"\n\n\"The teacher chose their job, so when a kid comes to school with bruises and dirty clothes, whatever they needed is on them.\"\n\nThere's good and bad days in every profession. People need support on their bad days. Trying being empathetic instead of hateful you sociopathic fuckin' donut.", "The difference between judging people for their race and judging people for the group they voluntarily choose to inhabit should be self-evident, but since it's apparently not, I'll note that belonging to a particular race entails little more than involuntarily sharing a certain degree of melanin and/or a handful of physical characteristics, like eye and nose size and shape, whereas voluntarily ascribing to a group generally requires a shared belief system and practices. \n\nIf we adhered to your logic, simply mentioning that Republicans support low-taxes, or that the NSDAP was like, bad, would be racist.", "I literally wrote above average, which it is... I don't know where you got \"exceptional\" from, but by inferring it you ironically did the thing you thought I did.lol.", "> I was saying responding to the comment that said she was not shot because she was white. police do kill white people\n\nNo one claimed she wouldn't be shot for solely being white. \n\n> You are right when compared to the general population police kill proportionally more (about 2.5x) African Americans.\n\nYeah, No shit sherlock. \n\n> African Americans are far more likely to come into contact with police. so it is not clear that the killings are disproportionate from that perspective. it is an uncomfortable fact the African Americans commit violent crimes at a higher rate than other groups.\n\nFuck me, You were so close to some self realisation before you dove head first back into victim blaming. \n\nLack of education, Lack of funding for those communities, Lack of opportunities and lack of second chances afforded to black people than white people. \n\nYou are acting as if this is all unknown. We know why there is inherent racism in the justice system, Please don't act like it's so magical unknown mystery.", "And those are reasonable things to push; But that's not necessarily \"defunding\" the police, rather changing what/where the money goes to. Defunding as a word leads peoples minds to assume your advocating for taking away the police altogether, and it doesnt help that there are some people who actually do take it to that extreme helping to further muddy the waters.\n\nOverall, I think the movement should split in two. The realists who want a restructuring (who need a better slogan) and the radicals who somehow expect things to run smoothly without some way of keeping law and order", "Explain what? I don't think you even understand what you've said. I think you're being intentionally disingenuous lol.\n\nIf your point was that they were no risk because they were chained then why emphasise that they were a 'white girl'.\n\nBesides the original comment brought up the fact they were chained, your only contribution was that they were white(hence your choice of formatting), so quit lying.", "Your bigotry against police is not only unjustified by but refuted by actual data.\n\nYou have no idea what you’re doing or why you’re doing it.", "Nope, everything you said is pointless because at the core of it, the principle of it is exactly the same. Prejudice based off factors that have nothing to do with crimes committed by people with the same factors. No matter how you look at it, no matter how you rationalize it in your brain, you are a shitty person if you don't treat everyone as individuals based on their character, and instead treat individuals as if they are the embodiment of everything bad you've ever seen someone do who has a similar exterior appearance. \n \nAlso pretending that was my logic is not scoring you any points at all in your argument. If you follow your logic, you'd say something like \"treating every republican voter like they were at the border shooting children and mothers in the face and hunting down black people\". \nThe logic that you incorrectly attributed to me would be like saying \"mentioning that cops have uniforms, or that murdering innocent people is bad, would be racist\" which makes no sense and is in no way a logical process that I have ever expressed. \n \nIf you were a good person, you would judge individual cops by their actions, you may even judge a police department for their actions or allowance of such actions. However, once you encompass all police and all departments across 50 states belonging to 330+ million people, you are now delusional.", "Fucking obviously, are you high? What made you think you needed to put that information up there?\n\nThis guys way of handling those bad feelings was to kill someone. You are saying \"you are allowed to hold bad feelings towards a group of people that willfully and purposefully mock you, unless you are a murderer\", which as you can see is dumb. Either everyone are allowed to be mad, or no one is. You can't be making exceptions for murderers since you would then have to know if the person you are mocking is a murderer or not before mocking him, which is dumb. It's much better to just not be a dick at all and avoid the whole issue.", "I did not say any of that at all, and I never said whether anyone should or shouldn't be mad about anything. \n\nYou're putting words in my mouth, you're looking for an argument, and you are making absolutely no sense in what you are saying. That's why you're getting downvoted like a mf.", "Maybe. I tried a version of that. My loud “What are you doing? I don’t know you” got a look, but no help. The guy followed me and when I finally got the police (with him looking on ), the f*king police asked if I knew him.\n\nThe next time (different stalker), I walked in the middle of the street and just screamed my head off. This guy ran off and one old lady (out of about a dozen people) asked if I needed help.", "Google the initiation rites for LA police gang \"the executioners\".\n\nTl;Dr they're violent neo-nazis. It's murdering an innocent non-white male", "> If your point was that they were no risk because they were chained then why emphasise that they were a 'white girl'.\n\n> Besides the original comment brought up the fact they were chained\n\nThe original comment IS mine. LOL. \n\n\n> your only contribution was that they were white(hence your choice of formatting), so quit lying.\n\nYou even quoted me saying \"Chained to the wall\". \n\nStop lying yourself or learn to read.", "The original comment being the first comment of this thread, not yours.🤦‍♂️\n\nIn case you're still struggling, I mean this one.\n\n>Great job to the officers in this video showing restraint and not shooting the girl chained to the wall.\n\nTo which you contributed with 'white' in italics.\n\nSo stop lying lol. At least try a bit harder.", ">system people are less likely to give opinions that are contrary to the popular ones in fear of being downvoted.\n\nThe problem is, that comment scrutinizing the police for saving this girl is somehow the most popular and loved opinion here. That's fucking depressing.", "he literally had his ammunition and weapons stored in that container. he admitted this in his interrogation as well. no shit they're going to ask if she has any weapons.", "define the danger. carelessly respond to a domestic violence situation, and let us know how that goes for you.", "vikingr666: \"fUcK tHe PoLiCe\"\n\nalso vikingr666 when anything bad happens: \"quick! someone please call the police to help me!!!!😭😭\"", "Nope, but go off bb.", "The killer literally stored his weapons and ammunition in that container with her. He admitted this during his interrogation as well. No shit they're going to ask if she had any weapons.", "Because women are treated as property in the Bible, punishment depends on her status. If someone raped a married woman he gets executed for enjoying the property a man already bought. If the woman is unmarried, it’s a “you break it you pay for it” policy so the man pays a fine to the father and keeps the “broken” woman.", ">If you follow your logic, you'd say something like \"treating every republican voter like they were at the border shooting children and mothers in the face and hunting down black people\".\n\nThe only difference is, that's not happening, whereas police frequently engage in brutality, and cover it up when \"necessary\". Very rarely does a cop speak out against injustice done by their fellow officers, and of those few that do, they're often ostracized, harassed, and/or fired. 'Warrior training' and the 'thin blue line' aren't memes the internet dreamed up, they're practices and ideals that police ascribe to.\n\n\n\n\n>Prejudice based off factors that have nothing to do with crimes committed by people with the same factors. No matter how you look at it, no matter how you rationalize it in your brain, you are a shitty person if you don't treat everyone as individuals based on their character, and instead treat individuals as if they are the embodiment of everything bad you've ever seen someone do who has a similar exterior appearance.\n\nGood thing we're judging them for choosing to to adhere to groups known to cause harm, and thusly reinforcing their ability to do so, just like any other gang, ala the Crips, KKK, or ISIS. \n\nBut hey, if you want to take a stand right here and now and pledge your support for not judging ISIS, on the potential there may be 'non-violent moderates' among them, please, say it loud and proud.", "I wouldn't even write it off as just being a joke when it's clear by the heavily upvoted replies, and even the original comment itself that they're still scrutinizing police for literally saving this girl from the hell she was trapped in. They really are trying to portray that it's surprising the police didn't just start blasting her. These people are so disconnected from reality.", "Yeah, thats great. I'd looked into Therapy assisted MDMA, I'm just, afraid haha. All of my family have addiction issues, and so I just stay away from it all, because the last thing I need is another aspect of my life I can't control. In a clinical setting it might do me good, but its just that worry. I have considered it, but, the process of making it legal for MDMA assisted therapy where I live is slow going.", "remind me which party burned the country's cities, murdering dozens more people, for 9 months straight over their violent criminal fentanyl martyr dying? you're actually the biggest fucking dumbass I've seen in a while.", "makes me think of freddie mercury singing Who Wants To Live Forever", "oh right, my bad. You'll just call your mommy instead.", "Nah, yours. She’s good with a hog.", "Yeah I woke up to like 12 comments, haha. You're very welcome!", "Right? That overanalytical, picking it apart, trying to figure out the why's and whats and hows, and the how-to's going forward. Having to play 4D chess with your own brain. It sucks, I feel you, 100%. You get better at it though, and it calms down a bit over time, its just the process of getting there is tiresome.", ">She's a white girl chained the the wall. \n> \n>There was never a risk here.\n\nthis is what I was responding to. which is precisely a claim that \"she wouldn't be shot for solely being white.\" you may not think this. but the person I responded to initially did. \n\nI am not sure why you are being so rude to me. I have not said anything untrue or that should lead you to believe I am blaming any victims. Also not all people (regardless of race) killed by police are victims. many are violent criminals who are killed in the act of egregious violent crimes. but too many are killed by officers that have no business wearing a badge and should be in prison. \n\nI am interested in facts even when they are uncomfortable and solutions even if they are not popular. ask yourself. if a solution saved black lives but it was perceived as \"racist\" would you endorse it? if a study came out that said that race was not a factor in police shootings would you believe the science?", "Wrong again. Republicans have been seen hunting down black people, are you not familiar with the recent Ahmaud Arbery case? That kinda stuff happens from time to time. Republicans have indeed enforced terrible and inhumane border control tactics (Dems too but we don't talk about that). So yes, those things happen. And yes, saying all republicans are like that is delusional. Just like its delusional to say all Democrats are communist/socialist despite many Democrats supporting those ideas. Just like its delusional to say all cops and all departments are part of your weird Thin Blue Line culture that you've probably seen in a few videos. You are incapable of understanding just how many humans and variability there is in America. And that is putting it as nicely as I possibly could. \n \n\nJust associating groups with their worst bad actors. It should be a simple concept to understand how terrible it is to think that way but here we are. And I know nothing will convince any of you with a similar mindset, especially not through an online web forum, so these conversations are always pointless.", "Not too far off here, completely different circumstances. But it's pretty clear to me that I have some form of this. Except I do have significant dissociation at times.", "Thanks for letting everyone know you'll do nothing getting robbed. Actually, you should just hand over the keys to your apartment, I'm sure someone will happily take everything, since you clearly won't do anything about it. As long as you maintain your \"fuck the police\", that'll really stick it to the mean Redditor bullying you.\n\nI'm honestly being generous in assuming you even own anything, I guess we can talk about this again, once you've decided move out of your parents place. I know it'll take you a while, but let me know.", "👍", "Okay, well, all I can share is my own thoughts and feelings, and experiences, and years and years of trying to figure out how I destroyed my past relationships and why.\n\nFirst thing? Don't try and fix the person. You can't, you won't, and it'll just make you feel like you're failing them. You're not. Be there, love them, and hold on to them.\n\nFor me, instability and insecurity are my main issues. Not in myself, I always know I can rely on myself. But you can't know people, 100%, and even a couple of percent off of that 100 is tough. They might see you as their anchor, their beacon, the person that gives them that sense of purpose.\n\nAt least for me, I constantly failed, kept pushing myself to do and be someone I couldn't, and invariably destroyed my partner. I still have dreams about her today, and boy did I love her. A part of me always will. And so destroying that just added to things.\n\nYou have to accept that the person you love is not as reconcilable with the normal way things are. If you want to stay with them, be with them, you might have to change things and adapt to things in ways that won't work for you.\n\nAffirmations really help. Reminders. But I get that that seems tiresome. I know a lot of people feel that being told that they're appreciated and loved a lot might seem to wear out its welcome, but, I know for me, it all reflects the people who've hurt me, and its easy to slip back to the closing up locking people out mode of self defense.\n\nKeep in mind, that opening up to someone else, being vulnerable, letting yourself be loved, and admired, and desired, and needed... is giving that person, in this case, you, for your partner, the ability to destroy you. To crush you. When you were younger, you didn't have a choice, and people still crushed you. So know that them opening up is probably the hugest thing they've ever done, but that it makes them feel extremely unstable. You are the pivot, the little pole that holds their plate up. And while thats not fair, it is, you ever try to hold your arm up in the air, really starts to hurt after a while, you have to find a way to hold it together, to hand it to him, and share the burden, and help him to feel like when he's (I just realized you said them, sorry just going off of myself relating as the male partner, so forgive that) handed it back while you take a break isn't you going away, or leaving.\n\nI would say to them, I love you, this is difficult, but please don't forget, I'm still here, I've been here, we started this together, and I'm still holding on. Heck you know what, write it down, put it on post-it notes, don't give them a way to sink back into the thoughts they feel keep them safe.\n\nAnd if they don't like you doing that, even better, hitting home that you are a stabilizing factor in their unstable minds is something, that from experience, I know works.\n\nBut also, please communicate your feelings. A lot of things I wish I knew, about how I was doing it, and what I was doing to cause my ex's to feel the way they did, it would've been awesome to know, so I could be mindful of something that I know now I was not being. A lot of this hinges on their self-awareness, instead of lapsing into the default 'safety protocols' they've used to survive. And I haven't always been, and still struggle with it, so, tell them. Just make sure you use I vs You statements, and come at it from your heart, your emotions, \"I feel this way, when you do this\". Sometimes they can feel like they're being blamed, or attacked.\n\nHope that helps! Also, remember, I'm not 100% myself, and I'm not a doctor nor a therapist, I can only give perspective, so hopefully you can gleam some understanding from that.\n\nAlso, one thing you can do, is be kind to yourself. And remind yourself of what you're doing, that you're a good person, and that you're strong, and that its okay to understand and acknowledge this person is difficult, but, don't forget to pat yourself on the back. I think its admirable that you even asked!", "Thank you for sharing. I’ve had very similar thoughts regarding my childhood trauma and how it has affected my life as an adult. \n\nI’ve just started reading The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel Van Der Kolk. He definitely understands that trauma biologically changes us and I’m hoping there will be some insight on how to get closer to peace. Fingers crossed.", "EXACTLY! Holy cow. Trying to 'fix' myself, all the time, and wondering why I kept falling down, coming up short, is just so shitty. Acknowledging that I can get to a healthier place, where I can chip away at a pace that doesn't make things worse, has been a god send. Right? About the feeling like a real valuable person, I have to remind myself that I'm not where others my age are, not out of choice. And I know that others don't, won't, or can't see that, and I'm usually pretty okay with letting that go, but, there isn't a time and place I could see where I can ever let it go completely. Like I wish I was normal. I wish I had normal people problems. I wish I could have normal people nightmares too, that'd be nice, dealing with that recently, and its a huge pain. I love my sleep!", "Well, sometimes you're going to, whether you're observant of how you feel about them or not. I still deal with them. Grief in my nightmares is a tough one, because you can't even avoid that. So you wake up, you remember the hurt, you're stuck in it for a bit, and you say well, thats in the past, this is now, you can't change it, or your part in it, just do better, and be better for those who are here now, and those to come.\n\nSome of those flashbacks, I have them too, will come, like it or leave it, but it is how you cope with it that changes it. And when you can get good at dealing with them, it is very freeing. \n\nThe best approach, for me, is to acknowledge its a ball and chain. And that it holds you down. And you may not have the key to get the ball and chain off, you can chip away at the ball until its just a pebble and a chain. And you've already build up enough strength carrying that big bastard of a burden around, that the more you chip away at it, the easier it is to carry it, not because its lighter, well not only, but also because you're stronger.", "Right... yeah for me it was my Foster Parents. And they didn't do it to any other kid while I was there, so there wasn't any witnesses. Its brutal. And its unfair. I won't go further into mine, I don't want to cause any distress, I understand how you feel. Little bit at a time, onward and upward.", "Well, yeah, you were, and it sucks. Its absolute bullshit. Its hard to form relationships and bonds after things like that. And even scarier just to start. But if I look at where I was 10 years ago, when I really started to finally deal with this in the little small amount I did, it will get better. I swear on everything, it will. There'll be times when it dips, it might even hit rock bottom, but if you can work on it a little bit at a time, whatever pace you can, it will. It does NOT hurt to talk to anyone about it. Its not a sign of weakness, or failure, if you can talk to a therapist, do so, absolutely. But remember, therapy is about helping you to help yourself. Doesn't mean you're alone in it, doesn't mean people don't care, doesn't mean you don't deserve better, even if you can't always get it, its not a failure. You can only do the best that you can, when you're able. And ready. And maybe you aren't ready, thats okay too. Sometimes people need to sort through the shit salad, before they put things back together into something that means something, that matters. I can't say things are going to be amazing, but I can, with absolute certainty say, that at the very least, they will be okay.", "Those are traffickers not rapists", "May want to check the comment thread. Specifically talking about sex trafficking.", "If I can give you a tip about the last bit... don't bother. People can tell after a period of time. I always say I'm a 'social chameleon', that if you look hard enough, or if you just look for a bit of time, you'll see. You'll know. So really, just be yourself as often as you can. I know we folks have to go outside, and you know... exist, but people can tell. Just be sure to take the camo off and let go of that as often as you can, it sucks trying to put that up over and over.\n\nBut yeah... that is a great way to describe it. It really does. Especially when it comes to loving someone, you have to not only love this person, but let them love you... and Mama Mia do I know the devastating results of that first hand.\n\nIt also doesn't help that I've been with people who are gaslights, that stuff is like the kryptonite for me, took me FOREVER to realize the signs.\n\nIt is hard with the social aspects. I know that I'm at a deficit in that too, I'm just more used to being alone. Kind of like a camel, I can soak up a lot of what little I get, and carry it for an extended period of time.\n\nBut if it means anything to ya, I know what and how you're feeling to a very high extent, and like I've said to many others in my replies, I know first hand, that it does get better. Just be cautious and careful with yourself. Its hard not to be a hedgehog when its in your nature, but, just like a hedgehog, it peaks its head out just incase, and sometimes it gets a lil' belly rub on its furry lil tummy. Take the time you can to find people that are okay with you being defensive first, and friendly later, they exist. Just be careful to give them space, because people don't always understand how to deal with the way folks like myself are wired.\n\nTL;DR I get ya, but things'll get better!", "Youre a shitting piece of fuck", "At least you've backed off the idea that we can't judge a group by its members, to the more reasonable standard of not exclusively judging it by its worst members. \n\nAs far as the prevalence of brutality and walls of silence go, I'll note that it's not limited to its most infamous instances with say, George Floyd, Karen Garner, and Walter Scott, which were all egregious cases of misconduct, yet according to police before the public videos dropped, were nothing unique or untoward. [Get to reading](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/1/d/1YmZeSxpz52qT-10tkCjWOwOGkQqle7Wd1P7ZM1wMW0E/htmlview?pru=AAABcql6DI8mIHYeMnoj9XWUp3Svb_KZA#) I suppose. \n\nhttps://www.themarshallproject.org/records/605-blue-wall-of-silence \n\nhttps://mtinnocenceproject.org/the-blue-wall-of-silence-perpetuates-racist-policing-wrongful-convictions/\n\nhttps://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1097184X09334700?journalCode=jmma\n\nhttps://www.aele.org/loscode2000.html#:~:text=449%20of%20the%20532%20officers%20were%20male%2C%20while%2074%20were%20female.&text=Of%20the%20532%20who%20confessed,felt%20pressure%20from%20uninvolved%20officers.\n\nJust curious, how many individuals in the Nazi party would be permitted to kill Jewish people before you felt comfortable condemning the entire party? 51%, 99%?", "Yeah, having someone to relate too is what gave me a place to work from. Its horrible horrible horrible what he had to deal with. But knowing that, in a way, I'd been doing what he was doing or honing in on it at least, was affirming, and assuring.\n\nAnd you're welcome. Yeah, it is a very adaptive way of doing things, but I find when you're working from nothing, in the deep end of the water, you have to do a bunch of things and quickly be cognoscente of what works, and build from there. Appreciate you taking note!", "I think I replied to this, this morning. That or you basically said the exact same thing as someone completely random... wait, maybe it was a different person, but yeah, someone recommended the exact same book!\n\nOh wait, no I didn't reply, that was someone who's partner was dealing with it. Ahh. Wow. So similar it felt like deja vu haha. Thank you for sharing that. 1 is a nice suggestion, but 2 has got to be on to something, I'll definitely check it out! \n\nI hope things are well, or well enough for you, now, or that you're able to get there! Thank you again!", "No that would mean everyone walks out. If she lived and 10 died, the odds are 1 in 10", "Lol here we go with the nazi comments already. Didn't take long to escalate the topic to such a height that the only way to appear as correct is to compare millions of police officers to Nazis. \n \nYou have a severe availability bias and it's hindering your ability to formulate a rational conclusion. Once again, this is pointless. People who are racist will not change their mind from an online text argument on Reddit, and your prejudice is certainly not going to be an exception here.", ">Those interrogators are trying sooo hard to stay cool and keep \"mhhmm-ing\"\n\nThats part of the technique they use. It allows them to show interest in the story to the person being interrogated while not interjecting/cutting off the story causing the person to stop their train of thought. \n\nSame thing when interrogators use phrases like \"No kidding\", \"Is that right\", \"No shit\" all said in a friendly tone. They are used to entice the person to continue a thought without goading them or making them feel mentally trapped.\n\nInterrogation is a fascinating artform.", "I wonder how long it will take before a series on something along those lines gets green lit. Something like a Black Mirror type of show.", "Wait so buddy refers to another prisoner, and not the creep that locked this woman up?", "Looks like he’ll (or has) get the insanity verdict", "yes, her boyfriend that was shot an killed", "or shes particularly resilient", "The 'buddy' was her boyfriend. He was shot and killed early in their imprisonment.", "It is still an emerging therapy. My husband was one of the first few for our region. Also, MDMA and ketamine are different substances, for what that that is worth (I had to ask, heh).\n\nMy understanding is the program combines outdoor therapy with low doses of ketamine. Guided through the brief journey with someone holding your hand the whole way.\n\nHis first two treatments confronted some of his traumas, and he was so happy and at peace afterwards.\n\nThe last two dove into his deepest traumas… those were different. But he came to consciousness in tears, in the arms of his therapist. And I see joy in his eyes again after so long.\n\nA final note is I left him this spring after years of disfunction. I still deeply care for him, with all my heart. I haven’t seen this side of him ever, and I’m so happy he’s there now. Still working and moving forward, but in an better place it seems.\n\nFinally, he’s taking a month off the ketamine treatment and doing therapy to determine if treatment should continue. The treatment plan has seemed very well planned, but this is just one person’s experience. He is not a stranger to tripping if you will, and knew when to let go of his ego and surrender to the journey, even as scary as it seemed. Others for sure did not have this same experience, to be fair.\n\nBut I hope this helps you and anyone else deep in these comments. Sending love and light to you.", "It's a podcast about serial killers and he let her bath", "> All because they laughed at him and embarrassed him.\n\nYou wrote this. Does this not mean that you think that being laughed at and embarrassed by a group of people on purpose (AKA being bullied) is not something to get angry about, if your reaction is going to be to murder someone? Isn't it better to just not bully someone?\n\n> That's why you're getting downvoted like a mf.\n\nOh no, call the police, I'm being robbed", "Look buddy, I was saying that people laughing at you is no reason to kill them. I never said anything about not being angry. \n\nAlso, bullying doesn't apply in this case because Kohlhepp was known for being an arrogant asshole to people.\n\nNobody is defending bullying, you're getting worked up over nothing and you're defending the actions of a serial killer.", ">Lol here we go with the nazi comments already. Didn't take long to escalate the topic to such a height that the only way to appear as correct is to compare millions of police officers to Nazis.\n\nNo, I went with it straight off the bat by referencing the NSDAP, being like, bad, to test how committed you are to upholding your logic consistently. Thus far, all you've done is deflect, leading me to believe you're unwilling to be very consistent at all.\n\n>You have a severe availability bias and it's hindering your ability to formulate a rational conclusion.\n\nSo, you see fit to ignore [hundreds of](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/2/d/e/2PACX-1vQnoNTUx4HU09pNioKwh6SxgLyrJXJuXKt6IIejynkVq_JBBGQQwAMR0OGsgVilHhjUUdN1WEFpXwjo/pubhtml) examples of brutality in the span of less than a month, and a study illustrating that 46% of officers have witnessed but concealed misconduct by fellow officers, and of those pressuring officers to remain quiet, 73% were leaders on the force, in favor of what, covering your eyes and believing whatever the police publicly report. I mean, from where have you gleaned your \"rational conclusion\"?\n\n>People who are racist will not change their mind from an online text argument on Reddit, and your prejudice is certainly not going to be an exception here.\n\nDo you think ISIS is unfairly maligned by Americans too, since they've ultimately only seen what, <1% of their members do bad things? Availability bias, no?", "Well you lot in the military have always had a bit of a problem with not raping people so I understand why you'd be so quick to defend it.\n\nA true patriot.", "How fucking delusional would you have to be to construe that as defending rape? Wanna mention where I did that? Right. You can't.\n\nBesides the fact that mil rape statistics are far lower than the Gen pop. But don't let facts get in the way.", "Humans that abuse humans deserve punishment, not admiration.", "That's just part of being a man and being abused. The fact that a woman is charged at all is indicative of her being the issue.", "You're a bit of a moron, buddy.", "It's actually mind blowing how few facts you bring to the table.", "Lol? Context? My dude was pretending like I didn't skyrocket my career. I use my TS Sci to make loads of money and dude I'm responding to is a commie in his mom's basement.", "No actual sources and a website with questionable motives. Congrats. You played yourself with right wing propaganda.", "\"Right wing\"??? It's a nonprofit public charity for sexual abuse victims??", "You're citing police activity during literal riots and you expect me to take anything you say seriously? I haven't deflected at all, I have just kept telling you that you are too far gone for a real conversation. I don't care what you believe, I know I don't have prejudice towards anyone, and I know that you do. So that is enough information for me to not continue arguing with you. As if bringing up Nazis, KKK, and ISIS when we're talking about police in America isn't crazy enough. It's sad to see so many people like you who have this availability bias getting in the way of what could be really constructive and energetic activism, but instead, you went a little too far and now you're in conspiracy land, which anyone with enough critical thinking will now dismiss you as a crazy person.", "Are you confused? Lol. Have you gotten a chance to go back and reread what I said yet? Because you keep repeating the same shit I do acting like you're saying something different lol.", "Lmaoo sorry /u/puskunk", "Potato, patato. Some folks \"cope\", some do not.", "You can find killer truckers rather easily, actually, since most of their victims are along their routes, as they traverse them. Just cross reference a company's shipping records with the approximate locations and time of death and you can narrow down the list of suspects considerably.", "I agree, and did not watch, just reading the comments is more than enough.", "Do more googling of LASD gangs, there are a ton of them and they're all neo-Nazi murderers who protect each other under a mutual code of silence and only pick on poor non-white people so the media largely doesn't notice or care when they do.", "The most successful serial killers who have been caught.", "Yeah, my annoyance aside, it was very thorough and well put together. Some people even like the extra touch of drama, but it's just not for me.", "About a month. I believe he had her and her boyfriend on the property before killing the boyfriend and capturing her.\n\nYears before that he had walked into a motorcycle store and killed the entire family running it because he couldn't ride the motorcycle they sold him and was refused a refund.\n\nHe had killed a husband and wife duo about a year before, but the wife was killed about a week after the husband.\n\nThe killer claims they didn't find everyone he had killed.\n\n&#x200B;\n\n>When his mother asked how many, his response was, \"You do not have enough fingers.\"", "Hahahahahaha... Are you a kid or something? Do you have any idea how many trucks and shipping companies cross major supply lines? The trucker would need exactly 4 sec of planning to avoid this.", "Scary.", "100% \n\nLiterally only she survived and the last women he did it to was killed after a week.", "That case was dismissed. So she’s innocent. Guess you can bring yourself to have empathy now? No? Right, cause that’s just your excuse. Your lack of empathy is because you are a narcissist… btw, all humans deserve empathy, and no one ever said anyone deserved admiration. Not sure why you keep reaching up your ass to pull out your next comment but it sure stinks.", "You really seem to think that having empathy for someone absolves them from their crimes… it doesn’t. Look up what empathy is and tell me how it has anything to do with excusing someone’s crimes?", ">That case was dismissed. So she’s innocent.\n\nThis is quite possibly the worst, most incorrect legal \"fact\" I've ever heard repeated. Wow. Insane.\n\nProsecutors will dismiss cases before or after a grand jury indicts just based on lack of evidence, which is extraordinarily common in DV cases, ESPECIALLY when the perp is female. It's almost impossible to convict. It does NOT mean that the defendent is innocent. OJ was found innocent in court, yet he very obviously committed murder. Our legal system is not perfect and to insinuate so is ignorant at best.\n\nThe rest of what you wrote is garbage based on your nonsense fallacy.", "D they Ty n see xxx C EEE error r RR", "> the media largely doesn't notice or care when they do.\n\nThe media is owned by a small number of ultra rich capitalists. One of the highest upvoted reddit posts of all time is [this video](https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/88ll08/this_is_what_happens_when_one_company_owns_dozens/) showing one of the more brazen attempts at media manipulation, but most of it is [far more subtle ](https://i.imgur.com/QwBlOzA.png). The same ultra rich elite that own the media make huge donations to police foundations. The ultra rich don't have their outlets report on police corruption because they've been guiding it.", "So you are now allowed to perpetuate violence as long as it's \"lesser violence\" in your mind? K. You think very highly of yourself.", "You're making excuses for violent pedophiles and other criminals to commit their criminal act without recourse. Their should be zero empathy for these heinous offenders, like the women in the video. A victim once does not a victim always make. I know your nobility and soy intake makes you want to bow down to this woman but the fact is she's now a heinous offender.", "You mean the organization in Utah that tries to assert the hilariously false notion that 1 in 5 children are sexually abused? They categorize breathing next to a child as sexual abuse. They also have a clear agenda to refute the facts regarding the correlation between childhood sexual trauma and future offending.", "Yeah, can't empathize with rapists, domestic abusers, pedophiles etc. Why can you? You make the claim that you can because your human but is it possible that you're a pedophile/rapist/abuser and thus find it easy to relate with these scum?", "Then don't imply that anybody else has a responsibility to relive the trauma over and over and over again with each retelling. It's pretty clear that you wouldn't step up if you'd been tortured and held like this.", "I saw the Doc on this and this video and I have to say she is more calm then I would be, I think I would be screaming and crying for them to get me out, she was a very brave person", "For real I had a good friend like that. At this point no one i know knows where he went. Just fell off the face of the earth. So weird..", "Just don't go do odd jobs out in the middle of no where for strangers.", "You're not nearly as clever or witty as you seem to think", "Do they, why?", "no, just presenting christian belief and dogma here", "A real piece of work this guy", "Oh that’s terrible", ">what are your thoughts on \"snitches get stitches\"? Interesting how you're silent on that. Exactly what I thought.\n\n\nBro why are you writing a reddit comment like people can hear you in real time?", "Yes!!! That’s the one. You the man. Gonna give it another read.", "She was not convicted of a crime and in America you are innocent until proven guilty…\n\nSo what do you mean? Americans don’t have rights now? We no longer are innocent until proven guilty by a jury of our peers? \n\nSounds like you are a fascists totalitarian scum.", "How am I making excuses for anyone at all? You are fucking retarded. Did you not read “you can have empathy without excusing or dismissing their crime”\n\nGod damn you are thick as fuck and I bet you have a great future in the military… they love fucking retarded grunts. \n\nEverything you say is bullshit lmao, why the fuck do you keep making shit up? When did I ever say any of that shit that you accuse me of?\n\nReally self reflect here dude… be honest with yourself. You are making shit up because you lost a Reddit argument and now are pulling shit out of your ass to make yourself feel better about being a narcissistic sociopath.\n\n\nBtw hilarious you lump someone who got into a fight with their boyfriend (which btw, both parties got physical, with the male getting physical first)\n\nAnd claim she is as heinous as a pedo. Your mental gymnastics are en pointe, which funny enough you accused me earlier of inappropriately. Like you’ve heard your buddies use those words but you are too stupid to figure out what it means. \n\nKeep talking shit and saying “soy” as an insult. God damn you are a fucking little baby sheep just following along with the rest of your dumb fuck friends? Using soy as an insult is hilarious, mainly because it’s so dumb but for some reason you red-pills think it’s the greatest insult in the world. It’s not, but thanks for putting on your wool sweater and falling in line with the rest of the red pill lambs. \n\nYou are a sick fuck and blatantly making shit up every time you reply.", "From what?", "Far more locked up in camps making things that say \"MADE IN CHINA\" on them.", "It was stolen before he could return it. He said someone at the shop mentioned it's on it's way to FL. He kept going back and hanging out just so they can egg him on more and more. There was a customer there when he arrived so he waited. That person gave the police a description etc. Casings had no prints etc because he wore gloves loading the guns.", "Thanks for better info. Editing my comment to point to yours.", "They never responded. Interesting how they were silent on that, so it's exactly what I thought. These people are too predictable.", "Damn", "It's not level-headedness. It's dissociation. Survive now, get scared later.", "Keep writing essays on reddit that nobody will read loser", "ah stfu", "None of the women in the case were trafficking victims.", "Penetration against ones will\n\nThat was easy", "So statutory rape isn’t rape? You are sick. Just because a 15 year old wants it doesn’t mean a 50 year old gets to have sex with them. That’s rape.\n\nedit: to speed this up, “penetration” is far too vague for a definition. By your definition, a bullet entering a deer is rape. It only seemed easy to you because you didn’t test your definition.", "You think all domestic abusers should be locked up and tortured in a hole in the ground? This mode of logic is becoming all too common. “So what if they were executed in the streets! He was a criminal!”. Devoid of rational thought. This is why we have a court system. People like you literally think it’s ok for psychos to go around killing people as judge jury and executioner. It’s moronic and it baffles me how archaic and rudimentary your logic is", "So they don't even actually check?", "Exactly, you can't even get hired at McDonalds without passing a background check. Of course people would assume getting a real estate license requires basic criminal record screening.", "Probably in prison", "There is zero evidence they openly mocked him, other than the word of a narcissistic serial killer. It's highly unlikely someone working in sales/customer service would openly mock a customer. It's very likely, however, that a serial rapist and murderer would lie.", "I have also partially looked into this case (seen a documentary/criminal psychology video) and from the material I've seen, the criminal claimed multiple times that Miss Brown made comments to suggest that she was ordering sex toys, lingerie or other objects. I have not tried to cross-examine these claims and see if they hold any truth from the part of Brown's testimony.\n\nAlso, another analyst of this case only hypothesized that Brown might have played along, but the analyst didn't provide any information that could verify this.\n\nSo I am only politely cautioning with my first comment. Many people read this forum and the victim's name is publicly known. Hence, we should be sensitive and careful of what we say about another person, that could affect their reputation and at least be clear about where we got our information.\n\nI would have had no objection if stay\\_fr0sty provided a source or at least something more concrete than a vague justification of having \"looked into this case\". On sensitive matters like these, ambiguity is simply not acceptable.", "Yea the bike shop murders. He killed everyone there because he thought they were mocking him for not knowing how to ride a motorcycle.", "Lol your post history is wild. \n\nYou’re an angry little man bro. Good luck with life lol", "No, just the US actually.", "Oh lord this movie is so good. And yes now that you mentioned it it does. Like wowwww", "[More in-depth on this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GL8gk3b2L8)", "Grow up idiot. You've obviously never read an actual law regarding rape. [Here, is this better](https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/blog/updated-definition-rape)? \n\nThat's the US Justice departments definition of rape, which says: \n\n>The penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim. \n\nWhy don't you go troll them instead, you sick stupid fuck", "I have never seen someone so mad about being wrong before. See how the US Justice department uses the word SEX.\n\nYour own posted definition uses the term.*\n\n Sex is part of rape. It doesn't mean making love.", "No death sentence.\n\nDude deserves life in solitary with no sunlight or exercise.\n\nLet him bang his head against the wall until he realizes he's never escaping this hell.", "Do something about it im hard 247 coward", "You got \"having sex\" from \"sex organ\". Obviously a troll", "The challenge was not to use the word sex. Read it slower. You think I'm a troll just because you couldn't do it. That's dumb.", "Now you're backtracking. Any one can see you said \"sexual intercourse\" and anyone who knows English knows they swap \"vagina\" for sex organ. Not sure why you want to argue that rape is sex, makes you sound like a rapist", "Okay but how do you prove if they were indeed molested or were not?", "There's a theory that Kala was more involved in the murders than what the police say, given that she was indeed in a relationship with Todd at some point.\n\nAlso, she has demonstrated a history of domestic abuse and her fiance died of a 'self-inlicted stab wound,' which can be a bit suspicious.", "Other options speak.up!", "What do you mean?", "You pretty much said nothing here.\n\nI'm not a grunt lmfao, I'm sigint but good try. You're borderline retarded at best. \"lost an argument?\" what a joke. She's a heinous violent offender and should be locked up. It's really that simple. Shut the fuck up and stop simping for women you've never met.", "Sounds like you're using buzzwords inappropriately. If you had any reading comprehension at all you'd understand how difficult a conviction on a charge like that would be. If someone molests a kid and doesn't get convicted, are they still a child molester?", "Yeah, and you're not going to short of writing books or creating communities. What I do is divert that into what's become a detached maturity. You really don't want to share it with others, because they didn't experience it. I'll even admit that I'm a judgemental giant douche when it comes to others' use of addictive drugs like heroin, cocaine and meth. Writing's helped me, as has reading others' experiences. It just sucks to hope that the experience and world view will match with others' -- don't get your expectations high in that regard and you won't be disappointed. Omission is okay. GL" ]	1,772	videos	Video of Kala Brown being released from serial killer Todd Kohlhepp’s slave storage container.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydOn8qwLJzA&ab_channel=TheB1M	/r/videos/comments/r6ltgz/las_vegas_is_building_the_worlds_largest_sphere/	[ "nice video", "Why do I think they're going to try to create a real life Truman show?", ">Damn right!\n\n* Flat earthers", " * Las Vegas Homeless Population 34,397 [source](https://deserthopetreatment.com/addiction-guide/drug-related-crimes/homeless-las-vegas-drugs-despair/). \n\n * Cost of sphere: $1,800,000,000 [source](https://www.theb1m.com/video/the-world-first-structure-reshaping-las-vegas-skyline)\n\n * $1,800,000,000 divided by 34,397 equals $52,330 per homeless person.", "Hear that kids? Lets go drop 10 grand in Las Vegas because I just heard the world's largest sphere is there.", "Don’t we already live on the world’s largest sphere?", "How much revenue will the sphere generate versus the homeless people?", "K-", "World’s largest sphere is the world isn’t it?", "Technically speaking, the Earth is not an exact sphere.", "You really think that's a viable solution? We'd have a lot of dead homeless people if you just gave them $52k each.", "Not to mention revenue the sphere could generate for the homeless people.\n\nWanting to help people is admirable, but without the big flashy hotels Nevada wouldn't be pulling in a whole lot of revenue.", "That said that about the giant triangle, too.", "What a shallow comment, like he's really suggesting just giving a flat sum of £52k to random people. He's just making the point thats how much money you can invest to get them on their feet like providing shelter,food and programs that develop their skills.", "Las Vegas building the world's largest anything scares me because I highly doubt it'll be built well. You're going to get the world's largest sphere on the world's lowest bid", "Finally, blitzball!!!!", "Look up how much California pays each year per homeless person and that is getting worse not better. From what I remember it was around 100k per year.", "Fill it with water and let's get some blitzball going", "[Orb pondering intensifies]", "[Wasteful](https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/xGyhHP6c4cVpFMRabrf.qQ--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTEyMDA7aD03MjA-/https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/8L86m8ozzv1BBud3EpdtDg--~B/aD0xODAwO3c9MzIwMDthcHBpZD15dGFjaHlvbg--/https://media.zenfs.com/en/detroit-free-press/5ece937628043d3acb2a84640edcce61)", "This is just my personal take but I don’t believe for a second that number is true. I remember years ago California cleared $2B in the budget specifically for securing land and building a homeless shelter. Years later I think they never even broke ground. When politicians were asked where the money went all citizens ever received in response was waffling and anger. $2B gone and no evidence of so much as a shovel being bought to dig. I bet funding for helping the homeless are some of the most easily mismanaged and embezzled in the world.", "Oblate spheroid!", "The little sphere they were building in Burbank, CA to produce content for the Vegas one [literally blew away](https://abc7.com/msg-sphere-burbank-studio-madison-square-garden-santa-ana-winds/11270615/) during high winds a few days ago. Apparently it's the same construction company.", "Technically speaking, neither will this be.", "Technically it's not an actual sphere.", "May we all ponder the orb", "Lmao you can say this about anything anywhere. Every developer is looking for a the lowest bid. That doesn’t mean Vegas has less building standards than anywhere else lol.", "I actually worked a proof of concept project for this venue. The size if the screen pretty much throws out traditional approaches to film making. Very easy to get motion sick, much like in VR.", "I can't wait to see Phish here", "Not sitting through 6 minutes about a big circle. TL;DW?", "Not necessarily, most of the buildings in Vegas that are grandiose are made of stucco and cheap shit which is not the case in other parts of the country", "Finally, an IRL Truman Show.", "Fake news, it's clearly flat.", "I think there's probably already a larger sphere pretty close by, like under your feet...", "[Blitzoff!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8czD_kJYBpM)", "They seriously aren’t calling it Madison SPHERE Garden? Smdh", "AND it's spherical!", "Dude, they literally razed and entire casino because the rebar spacing was wrong. They have high standards here.", "Ok but that “cheap shit” still has to pass inspections and meet federal and state safety standards. \n\nStucco is cosmetic. To say you are worried about Vegas building something is to imply that Vegas somehow has substandard building and safety regulations, which just isn’t true.", "I hope it's bulletproof", "The total resolution of the monitor is 19000x13500? Sounds impressive right until you realize that it's roughly only 10x13 of my cheap home computer monitor.", "With global warming, Vegas is going to see serious abandonment in the next 15-20 years. Wish they'd have built this somewhere else.", "Just imagine the complexity of its AC system. Imagine the cost of cooling when the temperature hits above the threshold.", "If that doesn't play as the doors open on the first day, I'll be a sad panda lol", "Isn’t the world already the world’s largest sphere?", "finally, las vegas is now figuratively AND literally the world's herpes blister", "The lake mead is drying up!! Vegas might be a ghost town one day soon! \n\n-every LV resident every 5 years, since 1960.", "\"multiple audio streams can be delivered directly to individual seats simultaneously.\" so... speakers?", "Yeah I’m sure they did an open bid system for this enormous project. That makes tons of sense lol 😝", "Unless it's a dyson sphere I'm not impressed. It'll be hugely overpriced to visit anyway and they will charge you out the ass in fees and parking.", "I'd imagine it would have a similar approach to the omnimax imax format present in many science museums. Also very easy to get motion sick.", "Came here looking for this and dig the blitzoff link but my mind went to this first [Otherworld](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMsJuwbyWVg&ab_channel=CherokeeWhiteboyProductions).", "Blitzball was probably the hardest part in the game. I kept reaching that part and then stopping playing the main game. I could never get past it.", "Is any physical object?", "Fucking lunatic shit when Vegas has a shelf-life of maybe two decades at this point", "Spheres are so out, rhombus or GTFO", "Damn, now I want to play it.", "Speak for yourself, I live on a cube.", "We really growing a giant zit on the face of the Earth lol", "Well if you shrunk it down to a billiard ball it would be very, very round. It's not exact, but then what exactly is?", "We must ponder this giant sphere my brethren", "That's no sphere that's summer's egg.\n Now we just need morty to fertilize it.", "Why is there garbage all over the place? It gets just as windy here but there isnt garbage completely covering the streets when it does, thats insane to me. You could hardly even drive in the street there was so much garbage everywhere, that is crazy", "You screwed up bad cause win or lose the story continues the same haha", "...2...3...teach us how to Blitz!\n\nUhh I can't, this creepy kid told me I cant.", "IT'S SPHERICAL", "WOW..\nInteresting 💯", "Did... did you somehow open that video without reading that the video was about a building blowing away? That 'garbage' is building debris.", "I tried for so long to win the first match. God that was a pain in the ass.", "That \"garbage\" was what used to be the panels on the sphere under construction. Blew right off the frame. It was pretty windy.", "[CUBE](https://timecube.2enp.com/)", "Less than 10% of men, and about 22-25% of women, get VR sick. It can also be mitigated pretty much completely, with exposure.\n\nIt also tends to be people susceptible to motion sickness in the first place that really experience it.\n\nJust figured I'd drop a bit of info", "Why didn’t they just call it, Madison Sphere Garden?", "How is the resolution 100 times clearer than 'todays best HDTVs', when the thing is only 10 times the resolution of 1920x1080 and 'covers 3 football fields\".\n\nThe dot pitch sounds shit to me.", "Ummmm... they're building it on Earth right?", "Pretty sure the world is the worlds largest sphere", "I've been envisioning a casino in Vegas like this for many, many years. Nice to see that someone is making it happen.", "Read the article instead of skimming and showing your ignorance. Destroyed buildings create garbage", "What makes you think people will abandon Vegas? It’s not as hot as Phoenix and they are twice the size.", "Why is it only two decades?", "I was just there last month and saw construction. It looks incredible.", "Well there's your issue right there. Garbage is a terrible building material.", "they are using large 4k pixels instead of the small HD pixels our TVs use", "Will that look like a pimple from the aliens' perspective in outer space?", "it's 10x as sharp as a hd tv but for that size, the pixels will still be huge.\n\nthe pixels on my tv screen will appear smaller than theirs as an audience member.\n\nworst of it is, you can get plug in screens that can scale to just about any size (assuming you can get the computing power/money for it) \n\nthe pixel density may not be high enough for it to look that good.", "They proposed one for London as well but it hasn't been approved. Say what you will about the architect, you have to admit he's got huge balls.", "It can be mitigated with exposure? First I'm hearing of this. It's one of those things I'm not really sure is worth suffering through. I love VR and have a few games I can play in it that don't induce motion sickness but I'm not sure I'll physically ever get over trying to move inside it.", "Pretty sure 10 other people beat you to this same dumb comment.", "You failed to comprehend the context of the video you were watching, and failed to listen to literally the first sentence spoken in it, but produced an entire paragraph whining about it?", "They built a prototype in Burbank, CA and it was [absolutely shredded last week in the wind](https://i.imgur.com/nwBbtyQ.jpg).", "For me the best mitigation has been increased frame rate followed by lowering latency. With a 90 fps game I get motion sick within 5-15 minutes. With 120 fps I can go for probably an hour before I just kinda feel unease but not really sickness.", "This got me hung up too. He claims in the same statement that it'll be \"100 times clearer than today's best HD TVs\". The screen resolution will be 19,000 x 13,500 and span the length of three football fields. That's 1080 ft. x 480 ft., or 12960 in. x 12960 in. Which puts it at 1.64 pixels per inch. A modern HD TV, not even the best ones, have well over 100 PPI. This is just a very large billboard.", "the definition of overkill", "Yeah that is true but with an image this huge and the distance of the viewer and screen being that large the pixel density really won't affect it that much.\n\nSimilar how VR screens still look pixelated despite their high pixel density.", "in flatland?", "B1M is a shit channel that parrots press releases over stock footage and publicly-available site footage. Don't read into it.", "Copy", "Interesting. I'll play with this and see if I notice a difference for myself. Thank you!", "Hmmm I need to ponder this", "Uh…congrats?", "\"A city of must sees\" ?\n\nWhat is there that is must see other than the nearby Grand Canyon?\n\nI've been in Vegas once and caesar's palace was probably the nicest thing I saw there, but I wouldn't call it \"Must see\", its' just a casino. Did I miss out on some sights on my trip? Not American so Vegas doesn't pop up on my radar as often (but it does)", "[VR Blitzball is real](https://youtu.be/5xPRIocr8ts)", "Finally, a venue that can hold the talent of a Carrot Top residency.", "I'm so glad I watched a 15 second ad for a 18 second video lol", "Hah! They really should.\n\n(Also: the comma in your comment is unnecessary).", "You are correct. It was late night and I’m also a dummie.", "Ahh, that's why there's only about 30s worth of actual information in this video and five minutes of B-roll.", "Make it a big titty", "> It's not exact, but then what exactly is?\n\nExactly nothing. You get down close enough and the entire thing is vibrating with heat energy at the atomic level.", "It's at 35% capacity, mate.", "The largest pyramid in the US is the Bass Pro Shops in Memphis.", "100 pixels in an inch is objectively capable of more detail (and thus more 'clear') than 1.64 given the same surface area, so the statement, regardless of how far away you're sitting, is just wrong. I'm sure the image will look great but it's just a bit misleading.", "I'm on mobile.", "Water is certainly an issue. But that isn't just an issue for Las Vegas. Its an issue for anybody that uses the colorado river as their water supply.", "Yup 90% of the water and we are pretty close to that 200ft drop in water level here in the net couple of years. Not sure what the solution is but its not good. \n\nWhat's interesting too is the water usage is actually gone done. Water district here has said water usage per capita is down almost 50% since 2002. Water still dropping though because it's just a perpetual drought. Guess we will see what happens.", "No no no, it's the MonoSodium Glutamate sphere", "fuck the environment we need the biggest tv in the universe", "It amuses me that you are being downvoted, everyone is in denial about the state of the world. I agree, this thing is going to sit empty in a couple decades and stand as a monument to hedonistic excess and waste. Our civilization is beginning to crumble in the face of COVID and unprecedented environmental disasters.... so let's build a $2 billion TV sphere? The lakes are drying up, the forests are burning, cities are flooding, but we need more entertainment? The rich reign supreme and governments are their bitch. We are entering the hangover phase from capitalism and its ugly, wasteful, and destructive.", "If the monosodium glutamate molecule is spherical I’ll take it!", "Same old story, billionaires are wasting resources and polluting the world so idiots give them more money.", "IDK, bubbles? Atoms?", "download adblock browser if using android", "Does it work with redditisfun?", "Yeah a lot of pilots get motion sickness in simulators the first few times but they get over it relatively fast.", "the world's largest sphere would be it's atmosphere, so I guess we live under it.", "Interesting. Maybe there is hope yet!", "Yup! Just having it on for slightly increased periods of time each day, can totally get rid of it. Start slow, just a few mins. Add a couple mins each time. Eventually it will feel totally normal!", "The bitter end was supposed to arrive two decades ago. But go ahead and pull your hair out while I enjoy myself until the bitter end, which I’m sure is just years away! In 5 years there’s no time! It’s already too late! \n\nLmao stay mad", "Was anyone's else's first thought that this must be a reference to?:\n\n\"The sperm is Morty's! We're about to make a giant incest baby!\"", "A bubble isnt perfectly around. An atom isn't perfectly round either.", "First Vegas. Then all the other USA sectors.", "YouTube Vanced", "God I love ffx", "M" ]	136	videos	Las Vegas is Building the World’s Largest Sphere
https://youtu.be/URsM32JIQcM	/r/videos/comments/r6m6vf/the_backroom_casting_couch_but_for_emotional/	[ "Horrendous ass-out hug. 3/10 wouldn’t hire unless desperate", "Why is it so dark?", "That’s a no from me dog", "So glad NNN is over, would have lost to this.", "I was waiting for a punchline at the end, like \"ok, let's see your body.\"", "What is this a parody of?", "I'll be honest, 10 years ago I wouldn't have got this. But nearly 30 year old me gets this.", "Show this video to your dad and ask him.", "At first, I though it was gonna be funny cause it was a pretty clever twist, but instead it made me feel feelings.", "I cried halfway through.", "This was good" ]	11	videos	The Backroom Casting Couch, but for Emotional Support
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azzogwsTfPA	/r/videos/comments/r6md97/david_benioff_db_weiss_on_how_they_ruined_game_of/	[ "DAE Season 8 bad?", "As a talentless person myself, these guys inspire me. They prove that you don't need talent, or even common sense, to achieve success.", "This is literally a YouTube comment from your link, dork", "They stole all their glory from another person, why not me too?", "r/madlads", "Picard's flute is amazing.", "Hey you have to buy me dinner before finding that out!", "Yeah you just need a dad who produces movies" ]	8	videos	David Benioff & D.B. Weiss on how they ruined Game of Thrones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6zrNBVVoCY	/r/videos/comments/r6n5yu/why_the_hiv_vaccine_is_closer_than_ever/	[ "Of course it is. Why would it be farther away than it used to be?", "based literal response", "Join r/HerpesCureResearch . There is a gene therapy cure in animal trials for HSV in the works and new antivirals in development. Come over and join this sub fighting for a cure 💪" ]	3	videos	Why The HIV Vaccine Is Closer Than Ever
https://youtu.be/xtZlEEjRRk8	/r/videos/comments/r6ngty/a_song_for_shell_oil_who_are_seismic_blasting_in/	[ "This has been done on the U.S. Gulf Coast for decades, and no such parade of horribles happens. It's standard practice to refrain from popping air guns when whales are nearby.\n\nNor does shooting fireworks kill bats, in case someone was planning a sequel.", "Surely there's a way to bring attention to this in a much less cringey way.", "Yea, done this a dozen times. We set a whale to watch, and if it's clear, bombs away (not actual bombs, it's an air cannon)\n\nEdit:the whale doesn't watch, we set a whale watch", "While I can appreciate the need for us to shift to renewable energy sources, we're all guilty of perpetuating the insatiable need for oil; whether is gasoline for the Prius he's driving, or the plastic in that microphone shield. The fact that we've consumed so much oil that it requires us to explore and exploit new sources is our own doing; I cannot think of a single person who is not part of this at least at some level (that gluten free, veggie based burger you ate was still refrigerated using coal power, and shipped in a truck burning diesel), not to mention the diesel burned by the farmer planting/cultivating/harvesting those soybeans used to make it.", "Needs more Gal Gadot.", "Not reassuring at all really.", "Guys we fixed climate change. Just imagine being a dolphin. It isn’t hard to do.", "It should be. The claim in the OP vid is that thousands of whales would be killed, but in reality, that doesn't happen.", "Please boycott Shell" ]	10	videos	A song for Shell oil - who are Seismic blasting in the Eastern Cape, South Africa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLBz3sFcBAg&ab_channel=CRBpaperplanes	/r/videos/comments/r6nltz/paper_airplane_performs_perfect_landing_on_a_tram/	[ "Can anyone link me the instructions to fold the paper plane in the video please?", "Low budget 9/11", "I loved the little laugh.", "[Kossuth Square, Budapest, Hungary](http://hazai.kozep.bme.hu/hu/kossuth-ter-rekonstrukcio-latogatokozpont-budapest/)", "I think I remember this from a Hitman level. From what I remember, you have to break into a hotel in the area to kill a terrorist before he uses a chemical weapon to kill off some diplomats, using a boat near the docks (near where the construction site is) to escape at the end.", "I was hoping it was gonna fly into those open doors" ]	6	videos	Paper airplane performs perfect landing on a tram in the snow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAX9_3aJqDs	/r/videos/comments/r6nx61/footage_of_punk_band_slaughter_and_the_dogs/	[ "CBGB and max's kansas city don't ring a bell, among others? hard to say the roxy was the \"punk mecca\"", "cool vid either way", "Of England.", "Fair. I was drinking, lol." ]	4	videos	Footage of punk band Slaughter and the Dogs performing live at the Roxy, the punk mecca of 1977.
https://youtu.be/y1GWkMmcqLU	/r/videos/comments/r6nzvj/if_crowdfunding_sites_were_honest_honest_ads/	[ "Old cracked hits hard", "[GoFundMe CEO: We Could Use A Few Fun Ones](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIsXEkR5OVs)\n\nA much better tale of what gofundme is really like and for these days, where the cynicism is much more organic. \n\nYou dropped the ball, cracked. Shouldn't have even tried.", "that video is brand new." ]	3	videos	If Crowdfunding Sites Were Honest \| Honest Ads
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuvDsT4sRzU	/r/videos/comments/r6oolm/donkey_kong_december/	[ "a whole month of donkey kong videos? finally", "His content is so hit or miss now", "What is that first song? I'm going crazy looking for it.", "Uninstall the Reddit app.", "HE WON'T DO IT", "If you keep scrolling it will magically disappear", "you are harshing the DK December vibe dude", "If Dunkey misses a single day I will bring in The Pelican.", "If he fails to do it, YouTube will reinstate the dislike button for the sole purpose of burning Dunkey's channel to the ground.", "As long as there is one in depth video explaining that it is Diddy’s Kong Quest, and not Diddy Kong’s Quest, I’ll be happy", "easy, stop browsing /r/new", "No Nut November 2: Donkey Kong December", "Dunkey is in his prime imo", "How else would u know about donkey kong december?", "This is exactly what I never knew I needed.", "With the quality of the content and the sheer amount of time it must take to produce these videos, I’d be amazed if he could actually pull it off. Take this video, for example, there’s obviously an edited script, musical composition with lyrical accompaniment, choreography, and post production design. Even without newly created video content, one would still need to source all the clips and record themselves singing in a professional studio. You can’t get that clear audio quality without nice preamps and condenser microphones in a treated room. In the professional world, a video like this would take a team of at least 5 people a week or two to produce. And you’re telling me Dunkey can do this all by himself every day of December? If he did it, he’d have to have been creating the content for the last year or two in his spare time, and if not, he’s be the most prolific composer, director, cinematographer, choreographer, etc., in all of history.\n\n\nHe won’t do it.", "\nHello! You have made the mistake of writing \"ect\" instead of \"etc.\"\n\n\"Ect\" is a common misspelling of \"etc,\" an abbreviated form of the Latin phrase \"et cetera.\" Other abbreviated forms are etc., &c., &c, and et cet. The Latin translates as \"et\" to \"and\" + \"cetera\" to \"the rest;\" a literal translation to \"and the rest\" is the easiest way to remember how to use the phrase. \n\n[Check out the wikipedia entry if you want to learn more.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Et_cetera)\n\n^(I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Comments with a score less than zero will be automatically removed. If I commented on your post and you don't like it, reply with \"!delete\" and I will remove the post, regardless of score. Message me for bug reports.)", "You let me write it wrong for my whole life and only now you correct me?", "Use your brain before clicking. Too hard?", "[I only know it because he used it in a previous outro haha](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXNmzlZyuss)", "If you stayed off the internet in general, you'd be doing yourself and all of us here a massive service.", "Anyone know the song at the end?", "this is one of his best videos truly. i miss dunktank", "I expect \"I'm Done Making Donkey Kong Videos\" within a week.", "Ah shit, I bought that game on release and have never noticed I've been saying it wrong the whole time.", "Y’all clearly forgot about Among Us Tuesdays. I give DK December until the 9th.", "That's a great idea for everyone tbh. Use something better.", "Seeing people act rude as hell and then whine and play the victim when called out on it just never gets old. I'm soooo sorry that the mean redditors were soooo aggressive to you there little buddy.", "Conquest. It's right there...", "[Keep on whining](https://c.tenor.com/sEYkJPsJfCwAAAAM/mayweather-for-you.gif)", "This coming from the guy complaining about a video when the post is barely over 200 votes lmao. Seriously do you enjoy wasting your time bitching and moaning?", "hour and a half video detailing the history of the Kong Wars or GTFO.", "nice video", "I expect zero more videos all December.", "busted bayou from dkc tropical freeze\n\none of the best games with one of the best soundtracks", "Don’t you say that!", "I'm getting older and this is still as funny as ever you've just become too sour.", "this", "Ok? So I guess drama Thursdays are out the window?", "I like the part where he said \"donkey kong december\"", "Well do I have news for you" ]	42	videos	Donkey Kong December
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJzhkQcLASo	/r/videos/comments/r6opj2/5_minutes_of_the_90s/	[ "What a great decade.... And I feel like a third of all the actors show are already dead 30 years later.... How depressing.", "Half the TV references: \"Ah yes, I remember not having cable!\"", "I hope that things do not get so fucked up, that we need to look back at the 10' this way", "At 1:57 I think I actually saw, for the first time, what u/shittymorph has been banging on about all this time.", "[ Jump to 01:57 @ 90's Flashback](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJzhkQcLASo&t=0h1m57s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: AE, Video Popularity: 95.73%, Video Length: [05:01])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@01:52](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJzhkQcLASo&t=0h1m52s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^\| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)", "Were the 90s the best decade, or am I just getting old? I loved the feeling of anticipation for, and then the reality of, the internet. I loved the feeling of it being the end of the old world. A lot of music and people were generally cynical, but the world wasn't yet. There was hope, and anticipation, and celebration. It was totally OK to show up at a friend's house without calling or texting first. I miss those simpler times.", "I wonder in 10 years what compilation will there be of the 2000s…man, that decade was only saved by Napster.", "Are you trying to make us forget the IRL history of the 90's?", "Didn't expect The Crystal Maze and Who Wants To Be A Millionaire (with Chris Tarrant).", "The lack of Empire Records always bothers me. It's the most 90s movie.", "The '90s", "The '90s", "Look back at the 10 foot?", "This seems kind of like a specific experience of the 90s. I'm guessing this whoever made this grew up in the latter half of the decade and included some broad popular references from the early 90s. Obviously they were more impacted by Scream, Hey Arnold!, Matilda and whatever movie that is with Christina Ricci than most.", "Oh yeah, you did. I only came to the comments section when I saw that part in the video because I knew that somebody would point that out. Hell in a cell baby.", ">I hope that things do not get so fucked up, that we need to look back at the 10' this way\n\nToo late", "Oh shit!", "LOL! Hey, thanks dude. Hugs to you too. :-)" ]	19	videos	5 minutes of the 90's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFwlWr9CvHs	/r/videos/comments/r6oqws/what_highway_distance_signs_actually_measure/	[ "Til: There's a Whitby in Canada.", "huh.\n\ntil.", "Answer: to the city's seat of government, at least in Canada.", "TBH, I've never personally been bored enough to even ponder this. \nI've always used those signs to guesstimate how long to my destination.", "Amazing there are people who get paid to make bullshit like this. Leave this nonsense to buzzfeed.", "Damn keep up the good fight I guess", "Apparently in Aus it’s the main post office but never confirmed", "Somehow I knew this from drivers training in the 90s lol", "I love it. some city or state planner just being like “I don’t know, whatya think 5 or 6 miles?” \n\n“Sure, go for it”", "I thought everyone knew this", "Thank you; gave up on this \"news\" and checked comments for the answer.", "Is “a football field” a genuine unit of measurement for Americans?", "I was told that in the UK the measurements were between each town's central post office. \n\nApparently that is totally false and we Brits just make up as we go along. In Newcastle the measurements are taken from the University Cafeteria and Birmingham it's done from a Serbian Orthodox Church. \n\nhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-35562786", "Neat", "I’ve driven all up and down the east coast of USA and the signs here almost always refer to the distance between the sign and the first exit for that town.", "Trying to play smart guy without realizing Toronto is in Canada, lol.", "There are some very long and boring stretches of highway in Ontario. I've wondered it as well.", "You okay?", "If it helps a football field can fit about 128 and a half standard-sized washing machines.", "In the US they refer to the distance from the exit ramp", "In the U.S. it's to that town's gun store.", "I knew this when I was a kid and didn't drive. I led if thought it was common knowledge.", "He could be using the weak definition of American as anyone from western hemisphere.", "Canadian news: Lets find out about one thing that never really seemed too important to really look into but we thought it would be neat anyway. \nInterviewee: OOh! Well thank you for the information!", "Signs every 10 feet then?", "In the CFL a football field is 110 yards or 10% longer than in the NFL. so maybe it's just a pedantic concern?", "Huh. This might be the most boring yet interesting fact I've learned in a while. 🤔", "This is the TV news version of having to write a class assignment the night before", "Incorrect. It’s usually to the center of the town if federal guidance is being followed. \n\nhttps://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/HTM/2003r1/part2/part2d2.htm\n\n>\tThe distance shown should be selected on a case-by-case basis by the jurisdiction that owns the road or by statewide policy. A well-defined central area or central business district should be used where one exists. In other cases, the layout of the community should be considered in relation to the highway being signed and the decision based on where it appears that most drivers would feel that they are in the center of the community in question.", "And in the US it’s usually to the center of the town.", "In ancient Constantinople there was a small monument called the Milion that served this purpose. It's still there\n\n>The Milion (Greek: Μίλιον or Μίλλιον, Míllion; Turkish: Milyon taşı) was a monument erected in the early 4th century AD in Constantinople (modern-day Istanbul, Turkey). It was the Byzantine zero-mile marker, the starting-place for the measurement of distances for all the roads leading to the cities of the Byzantine Empire. It thus served the same function as the Golden Milestone (Milliarium Aureum) in Rome's forum. The domed building of the Milion rested on four large arches, and it was expanded and decorated with several statues and paintings. It survived the Fourth Crusade and Ottoman conquest of Constantinople in 1453 but had disappeared by the start of the 16th century. During excavations in the 1960s, some partial fragments of it were discovered under houses in the area.\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milion\n\nit was modelled after a similar structure in Rome\n\n>According to Philip Schaff, the phrase \"all roads lead to Rome\" is a reference to the Milliarium Aureum—the specific point to which all roads were said to lead. A marble structure speculated to be the base of the milestone is present in the Roman Forum.\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milliarium_Aureum", "You're probably thinking of the signs that specify an exit, not signs that indicate how far away a city is.", "Dude, I live in Whitby Ontario. I think I drive by this sign every day. Super weird moment seeing my local area on reddit.", "The distance being measured is to a \"center point\" within these control cities, decided on a \"on a case-by-case basis\" guided by either state policies or the local jurisdiction that owns the road, according to the Federal Highway Administration's 800-page [Manual of Uniform Traffic Control Devices](http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/HTM/2003r1/part2/part2d2.htm). In Baltimore, it actually is City Hall. In D.C., it's the U.S. Capitol.", "As the goose flies or as the goose walks along the streets? I admit I did not watch the video", "GUNS GUNS GUNS NEXT EXIT\n\nFIREWORKS DEPOT NEXT EXIT\n\nJESUS SAVES\n\nADULT ENTERTAINMENT STORE NEXT EXIT", "Kilominer? What the tarnation is a kilominer?", "Please fact check mhe’s correct", "What's a kylometer?", "As the car drives. Geese can't read, the sign isn't for them.", "Some geese can read", "Smort.", "I’m British, which I suppose (by my own measure) makes me “American” too. Although, there are French folk in Canada, are they European?", "As [another commenter pointed out](https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/r6oqws/what_highway_distance_signs_actually_measure/hmvl9v2/) it’s 128.5 standard washing machines in an AFL field. So I would argue that yes, arbitrary borders and incongruous units of measurement are somewhat pedantic. Also, I was flat-out wrong referring to Canada as part of the American continent. Canada is part of Canadia.", "But the can't grasp arithmetic." ]	45	videos	What highway distance signs actually measure
https://youtube.com/watch?v=3xLog21skqA&feature=share	/r/videos/comments/r6p0vj/when_youre_the_only_person_in_band_that_practices/	[ "HAHAHA goddamn", "megastroke", "I could see a boojie ass conductor doing this as a performance piece in a real symphony", "Looks like the teacher is signaling them too keep it down, or just stop.", "Still better than the military orchestra of Egypt.", "It sounds like an angry beehive", "That was a gloriously bad as I hoped it would be.", "That mom in the back.", "I hated going to my kids school concerts. Hurt my ears.", "If I were in the audience I would legit just start throwing shit.\n\nEDIT: Wow, everyone just so ready to be up in arms about what is clearly a joke. Lighten up, all you delicate flowers, like I would really assault children, for no reason or otherwise. Christ, calm the fuck down and realize not everything in this world is just waiting for you to swoop in and be a savior. You're not a hero, just sit the fuck down and have a chuckle instead.", "Depends on the age and depends on the $$$. There is nothing as frightening as a child with a violin or a trumpet. \n\n\nI'm from a small liberal town on the west coast so we had a very nice program. By high school about 40% of the band and orchestra kids were playing in the youth symphony. So all the school concerts sounded really great. Since almost all kids were getting lessons and had parents/guardians who were at home at night to initiate them to practice.\n\nSadly not everybody gets to have that kind of blessed experience.", "these kids sounded bad. we had band practice daily for 1 hour in school. maybe that was the difference. these kids couldn't even hold a consistent tone. i think most of our practice was about timing and staying together though. i think the daily practice was more about keeping our muscle memory up so we didn't struggle to produce in tune sounds like this.", "Kids shittily playing instruments together never gets old", "Bald dude in the bottom right diggin' it.", "They had me in the first half, not gonna lie", "\"Soul\" hit the nail on the head.", "I wasn't from a very well off family but age 8-9 the school mentioned learning an instrument. Straight away I was told drums were a no no because of how loud they are. So me being a little shit picked the trumpet just so I could be obnoxiously loud also was a big fan of big band and such. \n\nSounds lovely when you actually know what you are doing.", "Okay, new theory. Maybe we should play so quietly, no-one can hear us.", "Typical 1st chair trumpet, they are always the tryhards", "So which one practiced?", "new recruits for the Portsmouth Sinfonia", "That's gross", "If I did have a theme song it would be something like this.", "Here's the [original](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rh1Z1jhk6nY)", "Lmaoo that was turrible 😂", "lololol", "He’s desperately trying to wrangle that train whistle of a band back on the tracks", "Sounds almost but not entirely unlike Jingle Bells", "It sounds like the 2010 world cup all over again", "It sounded like a hoard of vuvuzelas jumped in. So bad it's good.", "Ya fuck them for learning to play an instrument", "that's what i'm saying. these guys must have not had daily band practice. i don't mean to sound mean, but lots of these kids couldn't even hold a steady tone. i also can't visually see how old they were. i'm not saying i was hot shit, but i'm pretty sure by 7th grade we could at least hold a steady tone. that is when we had daily band class. maybe these were 5th or 6th graders. no idea.", "I thought the bad part was just 1 person playing.....didn't know it could get much worse...but it did", "This can also happen when a school has mandatory band classes that students don't want to do. My son was in compulsory band for 3 or 4 years, never gave a shit one way or the other. I don't blame him.\n\nHis last year in band class was during covid, they weren't allowed to share any instruments, and couldn't put their mouth on anything. What a waste of time.", "This is one of those videos that has an absolutely perfect set up to the joke.", "Can't help but think of [Eddie Izzard's bit on school bands](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crQM129W40M)", "LOL!!! Hahahah!! Just like [this Titanic scene](https://youtu.be/dkz5NyjA6a0?t=1m33s)", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=208&v=Rh1Z1jhk6nY&feature=emb_logo\n\nSomeone posted this lower in the comments... It's the beginners kicking in for the chorus, full actual band comes in later and sounds more like what I would have been used to in orchestra.", "Hahah 100% accurate comment", "I attended JHS in the late 70s in a working class section of Brooklyn and we had concert band and string orchestra, the school provided the instruments and we practiced for a full period during the school day. The degree to which music education has been minimized over the decades since is a real shame.", "That should become the theme song for christmas related fails like the titanic flute performance", "Ow! My ear balls!", "Beautiful", "We had an \"open house\" at the school for new band kids in 5th grade, where you could try out the different instruments with a little guidance to help choose which instrument you wanted to play. I picked up the cornet, the instructor attached a clean mouthpiece, told me how to put my mouth/lips and to blow. I gave it a shot. Deep breath, mouth exactly as they told me, and blew with all I had. It. Was. Loud.\n\nThe instructor said \"Wow. That was good.\"\n\nMy dad.... \"NOPE!\"\n\nI ended up playing clarinet for 2 weeks.", "Bottom right dad is loving it.", "Band teacher is not band teacher.", "I feel fairly confident the trombone at back stage left in the black shirt had his back, but you couldn't hear nothing. Dang it.", "GOD DAMMIT KIDS. FIND THE DOWNBEAT!", "As the parent, grandparent, uncle, and elder sibling of multiple band geeks....\n\nThat's pretty much what all of them sound like their first recital. I've sat through far too many.", "Hey I remember this version from The Nightmare Before Christmas!", "Not quite my tempo…", "Omg, it sounds like a roomful of kazoos.", "Ex US Navy Band here. I used to wonder how some of my bandmates managed to pass the audition and get in (not all, most were pretty good).\n\nUntil I heard some of the other military bands around the world.\n\nOr like even the local Italian funeral marching band in any reasonably big city in the US.\n\nMost concert and marching bands are horrid. I blame easy access to music education irrespective of talent.\n\nFor the love of all that is good in the world, somebody save our ears and break it to them.", "Not ones I’ve heard. This teacher is shit.", "He liked it before it was cool.", "Ouch. Maybe they just haven't actually played as an orchestra before, so don't know how to stay in tune or in time when they can't hear themselves?", "Longest 40 seconds of my life.", "I think the trumpet soloist at the beginning, but only barely", "You gotta appreciate the wholesomeness that is the fact that this teacher obviously recognized the young trumpet player was going above and beyond to get good and was just like , \"Kid, you're the best we got, you're going first, Solo.\"", "He’s trying to get them to realize where the down beat is. Those kids aren’t paying any sort of attention at all and are all going their own pace.", "When I was in band I was convinced that we sounded really good. I went back years later and listened to a recording and it was pretty mediocre though. I mean, not this bad but much worse than I remembered", "If the ugly xmas sweater was a musical.", "Yes. It did not disappoint.", "Thank you for opening a window into that part of the music world for me. I have never been there. I am a visual artist.", "Oh my god. I thought it was going to be okay. Oh no. That made it so much worse.", ":D\n\nIn the long version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rh1Z1jhk6nY He says at the end (at 4:55) to the audience that it was his present to them, the audience. Then he laughed. lol", "PADORU PADORU", "Why are they ALL so incredibly flat??", "That sounds like the [dinner scene](https://youtu.be/vWdnI4lZIN8) in Christmas Story to me", "I need to go hug my 6th grade music teacher.", "Sounds a little bit like the opener to the Simpsons, if they were playing Christmas music.", "One would hope that they could at least play the two parts in the same key! What on Earth prevented that, I wonder.", "“Look at me, I am the downbeat now.”", "Is this a cover of the nightmare before Christmas?", "This reminds me of the youtube videos that use the Titanic song played on recorder", "Oh my lord, i'm having high school band flashbacks.", "When I was in 9th grade whenever we had a sub in band, we'd have a scheduled musical movie to watch so the sub didn't have to try and teach music. One sub decided he could handle it and insisted on conducting us through our music. To mess with him, everyone switched instruments, we sounded about like this. :D", "This might sound weird but a few weeks ago I saw somebody at Target who looked a lot like Eddie Izzard in their fabulous regalia.", "And they applauded like they got done listening to the Kansas City Symphony 😂👏 Good for those parents.", "\"Maybe we should play so quietly no one can hear us\"", "I miss the old Eddie", "Holy God why is this so funny", "Flashbacks to the horror sound of vuvuzelas when we mistakenly let any part of Africa host the World Cup in 2010.", "I think these kids are quite young for band too though. I bet most started playing those instruments this year.", "I once TA'd a class called the Philosophy of Physics. The essay question for the FIRST week of school was \"Does the sun go around the earth, or the earth around the sun?\"\n\nThroughout the semester, the students learned about empiricism, relativism, Newtonian gravity, Einstein's theory of relativity, inertial reference frames, and general relativity.\n\nThe essay question for the LAST week of school was \"Does the sun go around the earth, or the earth around the sun?\" It was really cool to see how the students' frame of mind evolved over the course of the semester.\n\nI can only hope this band instructor does the the same thing with his class, and we are witnessing the recital after the first week of school.", "Anyone remember the children's orchestra that plays the theme to 2001? \n\n[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTL4T\\_NVGhY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTL4T_NVGhY)", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wC2hpeheqc8", "This is the way.", "New ring tone here I come!", "That's what I thought the beginning was. They should go back to doing that lol", "Nobody said the way would be easy.", "even the kid who did it most right did it wrong. wtf", "Thanks I almost choked while eating", "Oh please show me the whole concert. Gloriously bad!", "so while i was in band, i do remember this:\n\nat one school, they started us in 5th grade. yes we were all very bad. i changed schools (unrelated reasons). the next school we didn't start until 6th grade.\n\nat new school, everyone was bad and most could not form a coherent sound. i was one of the few that could because........i actually had a few months of practice from the pervious years band stuff. so ya, these kids sound like they're 6 months or less from starting. and, no disrespect to these kids, but like fuck, this has to be their first ever performance. ever.", "I went to a music school for 5 years of mostly pre teens and older. From all the rehearsals I heard there was never anything close to this bad. As long as you are not a small school you won't have problems getting interested students with the right instruments.\n\nLike there's no point in having a band class show up like this if they're gonna produce this cacophony. \n\nIf I was the teacher of that class I would quit if I couldn't at least make everyone in tune.", "Yea this really makes me appreicate my public school band and trumpet teacher holy shit. He spent at least a few minutes making sure everyone was in tune and especially when we put on a show.", "We started hardcore prepping for the Xmas concert in early November, and this would not have happened (even in beginner band). If we sounded this bad in a performance, I'm not sure anyone would have gone to class the next day out of fear of stands being thrown at us (yes that really happened).", "I liked the little girl holding her ears in pain right in the center.", "this is so fantastic", "Oh lawd", "It's the Music Man in real life! Those kids are too new for band.", "It sounds like when kids try to play a song by hitting the same note on the piano in time with the music.", "So much of this is obviously on the director. I don't know what the fuck that hand waving was, but it wasn't conducting. Fingers spread wide, no clear articulation of the beat, varied tempo, switching from an up and down to a back and forth pointing motion. Not using a baton is understandable, especially at that age group, but then at least give them something easy to follow and pick an actual time signature. 4/4 is preferrable, 2/4 is ok, but 1/4 shouldn't be an option dear god. And the way he puts his hand in his back pocket like \"aww yeah my job here is done\" lmao.\n\n\nBased on that conducting alone I'm going to guess he utterly failed at properly teaching them the fundamentals in the preparation up to this point.", "Retired band geek here. This was painful.", "7 year player, if anyone cared.", "he comin!", "This is what work is like everyday for me", "People don't realize how well they actually played [this version](https://youtu.be/2_I76We5QS4?t=5) of the song. Nice job kids. Nailed it!", "Because he's not giving them a clear down beat. He's doing some weird ass wide fingered two handed bullshit with almost no clear articulation in an inconsistent 1/4 time. It's pretty apparent he's the reason for this trainwreck. Even a 1st semester middle school band shouldn't sound this bad.", "Its so bad its good.\nI love it.", "I was in band in junior high school. I thought we were pretty good. Some 30 years later I attended the same school's band concert. They were horrible. Painful to listen to. I emailed my mom and asked her truthfully how we were when I was in the band. Her response: \"you were a junior high band\". I wonder if the kids in OP's video think they're good.\n\nTo pat my own back, I was good enough that I got into the city's adult band and I travelled and performed with them for a few years. I wonder if I was the kid in junior high band that actually practiced.", "They have no idea what he's doing because he has no idea what he's doing.", "What do you mean we gotta \"learn from home\"?", "I've heard better", "Top comment is gold:\n\n\"This performance was a masterpiece. The use of the solo introduces the simple melody, and it is played beautifully, purposefully using \"wrong\" notes to bring tension, and unique rhythms to keep us on our feet. As a listener we expect that tension to eventually resolve and be relieved, but no, the full band comes in and subverts expectations by bringing in complex harmonies, fully using dissonance and highly advanced microtonal technique to contrast the simple and overheard \"jingle bells\" typically played.\"", "Every single first recital that I've heard was about this bad. They probably have all of 6 weeks of experience with their instruments. That's why there are TWO recitals for first year students. The first one where they always suck and the second one where you gauge how much they have improved.", "The whole in me that you were implying OP's video was heavily edited 😩", "Harold Hill's \"Think System\" in action!", "r/comedyheaven\n\nThis is beautiful; I've watched this six times already. This is the happiest I've been all day.", "Them kids: \\we're doin great 😎", "This is how bad I assume our band in middle school sounded lol.", "You might enjoy the Egyptian army orchestra [absolutely butchering national anthems](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVa1qku87cU).", "Sounds like they tried to emulate “The Nightmare Before Christmas”", "They are 4th to 6th graders and he called them beginner's. It sounds like any elementary aged school band. The teachers have such limited amount of time, it's not like they are gonna make masterful musicians in half a year.", "And the star kid was still bumming that he flubbed that last note I bet...", "Really 😅", "Jesus Christ they are bad - with the kids, it is understandable", "Parents signing weekly practice sheets even though they know their kid didn’t practice\n\nMusic teacher: you get what you fucking deserve!", "Did that same guy also write every positive review for The Last Jedi?", "This is a great rendition of the Nightmare Before Christmas.", "Eric Whitacre in the audience frantically taking notes", "So avant-garde.", "It sounded like they were playing on kazoos!", "Immediately thought the same thing!! Lmao", "My son is in 4th grade and has his first band concert next week. They started playing their instruments for 30mins, 2x/week, about 2 months ago.\n\nIt will probably sound like this. Actually, probably worse than this.", "That has to be fake. Good lord I hope that is fake, because that is just absolutely awful...", "I thought my HS music program was decent. But when I see videos on line, even of HS bands, it really makes me wonder.", "The band is out of tune, so the director never had each of the students tune their instrument, and his conducting is horrible and they are probably playing faster than they should be which is causing a free for all.", "They're probably a first semester elementary school band. There's a reason most schools don't have band programs until middle school. I don't know how I'd even start teaching someone music to a 6-7 y/o, much less 40 of them.", "I like the few kids in the back that were raising their instruments up in back during the applause looking accomplished.\n\nThe video states this is the beginner band and to me they seemed to get better as it went along.\n\nKids being kids.", "u/savevideo", "Lol omg the weekly practice sheets I remember that shit. Nope just Starcraft", "In 4-6 grade (1981-1984) we were playing the theme from MASH, Simon & Garfunkel Sound of Silence and multi part Jingle Bells. We weren’t in a wealthy area and no one was taking private lessons. The Director was a bit strange/eccentric, but for a beginner band, we sounded pretty good.", "This video is super wholesome. The parents trying not to laugh, the huge applause at the end, a few kids able to do probably their first solos ever, and the conductor totally owning it and killing it with the \"my present\" line at the end. Not to mention that the kids are all about to go off on Christmas break.\n\nGood vibes.", "...intro/solo RIFF... \n🍺🎅👍", "Lux jingle bells aurumque", "The price is called \"Recessions Depression, Holiday Blues\" \n\nPretty awesome concept\n\n\nhttps://www.jwpepper.com/Recession-Depression-Holiday-Blues%2C-%28I%27ve-Got-The%29/10071206.item#.YahDfCW-nDs", "The fucking squeaks in there made it just...\n \nchef's kiss", "Nope…upstate NY", "Meanwhile the teachers gonna be like \"I got a master's degree to be able to do this\"", "Ah, just wondering, we have an amazing music program :)", "He won the game", "I’m a music teacher and I’m sorry, but this is a total failing on the teacher’s part. Beginner bands are bad, but they’re not this bad.", "Sounds like a bunch of chairs squeaking across a tile floor.", "Was this a school for the deaf?", "Yeah, this is what I noticed too. Orchestra teacher here. It’s pretty clear this guy has no idea how to conduct, and if he’s in charge of conducting a beginner band, that’s a pretty clear indicator that he should be nowhere near a beginner group. He’s definitely the reason for this train wreck.", "This is so painfully clear to me as a music teacher. This guy should not be allowed within 50 miles of a beginner band.", "I feel like everyone sat down and handed their instrument to the person behind them before starting.", "> vuvuzelas\n\nrofl I'm dying over here at this comment.", "Imagine being that music teacher and hearing starters all the time. That and hearing hotcross buns over and over and over.....", "This quality wouldn't surprise me from 1st year band students. Often 1st year comes in somewhere between 4th to 6th grade, depending on the school district and the school. Many times, these kids just started playing their instruments in September, and their instruction has been in a group setting. \n\nThe problem I see is in song selection. My kid's school starts the 1st year band off with Hot Cross Buns, or something much easier than this. \n\nIn upper income schools, the beginner bands might sound better. That's usually because many of those students will have had private lessons for many years by that point. Some middle / lower income students will take private lessons too, but that's going to be the exception, not the rule. \n\nBy 7th or 8th grade, if they stick with band, those kids could probably play this same song and make it sound pretty decent.", "When did you start, 1st or 2nd grade? If so, that makes sense.", "BACK IN MAH DAY", "Different person here but for my school district, band started in 4th-5th grade. Would usually have classes twice a week. When performing they usually sounded pretty good (often played \"Low Rider\"). The strings on the other hand (separate to band) always sounded grating.", "My 6th grader just started taking band this year. I'm afraid this may be in my future.", "It is very real. Many Arab countries are notorious for this. Saudi Arabia is worse. [A LOT WORSE. ](https://youtu.be/r-VydZ2wArE)", "My HS band teacher took a bunch of students that never played before (and students who had) and made them into a cohesive team. \n\nBy having predictable timekeeping, drilling into percussion and bass the importance of THEIR timekeeping, drilling into the entire band the importance of keeping time with percussion and base, and _teaching people how to tune the damn instruments_ and _warm up before playing_.\n\nWhoever was doing the solo opening wasn't warmed up at all, and chances are no one else was. Not only does warming up get you used to the weird things the mouth does when playing an instrument (PARTICULARLY brass instruments), but it also makes your instrument _physically warmer_ and easier to play.\n\nEverybody was off tune. Even the solo performer (I mean, possibly that was the intended sound and a single mistaken note, but that sounded off tune to me).\n\nThose kids were set up to fail be a band teacher/conductor that is doing worse than a blind man in an escape room.", "ya, they will probably be lucky if they can maintain a consistent tone. actually, i forgot. i think the year they had us try real band instruments like this, our school had everyone in the......must have been 4th grade class use recorders for a 1 time concert. so in your district, instead, they're using real instruments.\n\nnow that i say this out loud, i think the recorders is/was a better idea. because they're cheap plastic. everyone can afford them. it doesn't matter if a 4th grader somehow destroys them. they will all sound terrible anyhow.\n\nyears ago we all asked \"WHY DID THEY MAKE EVERYONE USE THOSE GOD FORSAKEN THINGS\". but now i see. they're cheap, durable and all the kids will sound bad no matter what they use. so why not.", "ARE YOU RUSHING OR ARE YOU DRAGGING?", "Nobody in that band practices.", "If they are first year players as suspected, that's a pretty damn fine job honestly. Trumpets ain't exactly easy to play for first timers (memorization of the finger positions is one thing, but using the lips to maintain the octave/tone takes lots of practice).", "Instant classic\n\nEdit: nvm it’s old old", "[I think it sounds fine](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/disney/images/0/06/Profile_-_Jack_Skellington.jpeg/revision/latest?cb=20190316145716)", "Is that Robert Preston?", "\"If you can't play good, play loud\"", "I don't know much about music, but I'm pretty sure that's coming down to song selection, and not skill. It probably also comes down to breaking up into a proper 1st / 2nd chair, where the complex parts are handled by more advanced students.\n\nI haven't seen the sheet music you used, but IIRC, the verse of Low Rider has limited range, and a lot of long notes. \n\nIf you could get 4th graders to play the chorus of Low Rider at the correct tempo after only 6th months of study, I'd be crazy impressed.", "Started playing in 4th grade (learning the basic scales, technique etc) , and we were put in the band for 5th & 6th", "man, we had this one new highschool band director that did not last long. we were a good program, and we did not appreciate this new guy. he came in, and one class period he just spent the entire time getting us in tune. i will admit, we were immature and thought he was dumb. \n\nhe was not a dumb musical instructor. now that i'm much older, i do understand what he meant. he was saying, \"for us as a program, we were very skilled. for us to go to the next level, our next big obstacle was that we needed to be ' ' much more in tune with each other. if we could make that tiny last little adjustment, we would be a next level highschool band\". he was not wrong.\n\nit's just that, what would we do with that. we weren't chasing funding. we were there to learn to play some, moderately difficult things as a group. just getting better at tuning wasn't really a good group goal.", "And this, friends, is the state of arts education in America's high schools.", "It’s pretty typical for the younger grades of elementary school bands to sound this bad. This is when the students are still figuring out how to just play their instrument. Everyone knows they don’t sound good lol", "This reminds me of when the kids play at the end of The Music Man.", "I seen it comin. Did not disappoint.", "That sounds like a nice way to do it. But that's an unfair comparison. I think this is a first year band, where all the kids just started learning in September. These kids have probably had 4 month to go from zero to concert. \n\nYour 1st chair would be mostly 6th graders with 2.5 years of practice and experience. It sounds like your screechy first year 4th graders wouldn't even play.", "I think what you're referring to is arrangement. You can put the simple melody for a song on a sheet of paper and have kids follow along. Or you can build harmonies and different parts into a complex piece that follows the same simple melody.", "TLJ was flawed for sure but I genuinely enjoyed it and it was by far the strongest of the three sequel trilogy films. I know everyone hates Holdo but she was a vehicle for genuine character development for Poe. I love how Luke managed to completely defeat Kylo and buy the resistance enough time to get to safety without ever throwing a blow, which is Jedi as fuck. Kylo and Rey had a genuinely interesting relationship with all the parallels between them, and it gave Kylo the opportunity to push aside the complete Palpatine expy to do his own thing and distinguish himself as a character instead of a rehash of the Vader/Palpatine story. The visuals were _gorgeous_ too, which in a silly escapist action adventure film like this is great - the ramming scene, the throne room battle, everything on Crait. Love it.", "\"Yeah, yeah, but your music teacher was so preoccupied with whether or not they could that they didn't stop to think if they should.\"", "Is it a troll? Like are they doing it on purpose? If yes 10/10 bravo. I like it.", "I wish the parents booed them", "\"Ok, new plan. How about if we play so quietly, nobody can hear us?\"", "“Unique rhythm’s” we all know it’s out tune but damn that solo is whack as well", "Kansas City Symphony...? Funky reference mate.", "I remember at our first recital we were so bad half the kids didn't even play their instruments, just mimicked the motioned needed but no sound cause we were so embarrassed lol", "Who needs time signatures when you can go from two hands up and down to one hand in a sort of jerky pointing motion with the other in your pocket?", "Just saying, the teacher must have been shit because I’ve heard kids’ play for a Christmas concert after just picking up their instrument in Aug. and it doesn’t sound like this. Not to say they’re GOOD, but the band can at least keep it together goddamn!", "That’s on the teacher dude. If the whole band can’t perform, the teacher didn’t do the job.", "Nah we didn't do our part to practice", "this is true. I play the trumpet but no one would belive me if I actually played something for them", "This is what it's like when you drink alien titty milk.", "I started band in 5th grade. I sometimes wonder how the hell my teacher pulled it off, but he somehow made a class of 30 kids sound listenable. So it's definitely possible.", "Either the horn player was off or the entire orchestra was off. Bottom line", "Should've invested in recorders.", "I knew this was going to get mentioned so let me interject: This isn't a children's orchestra (nor is it Chinese as many sources purport). It's the [Portsmouth Sinfonia.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portsmouth_Sinfonia)", "[Portsmouth Sinfonia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portsmouth_Sinfonia) \n \n >The Portsmouth Sinfonia was an English orchestra founded by a group of students at the Portsmouth School of Art in 1970. The Sinfonia was generally open to anyone and ended up drawing players who were either people without musical training or, if they were musicians, ones that chose to play an instrument that was entirely new to them. Among the founding members was one of their teachers, English composer Gavin Bryars. The orchestra started as a one-off, tongue-in-cheek performance art ensemble but became a cultural phenomenon over the following 10 years, with concerts, record albums, a film and a hit single.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( \| )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( \| )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( \| )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove \| v1.5)", "I think the issue is they have the wrong mix of instruments, or the trumpets don't know how to play softly. Looking at a orchestration of the Russian Anthem, it seems that, note wise, the right instruments are playing the right notes at vaugely the right time. But in the middle section the soft winds and the horns are supposed to be the melody. Unfortunately, there seems to be an overabundance of Trumpets and Tubas, which are not the melody at that point in time. Looking at the video, it certainly looks like they have way to many tubas. And if you listen really carefully, you can hear the poor woods trying to play on.", "I guess the band screenings went like:\n\n\"What's your qualifications?\"\n\n\"I play wind instrument on Wii music very well\"\n\n\"Good, you're in!\"", "This must be early grade school. Even first year players in high school would do a much better job than this", "[reminds me of this](https://youtu.be/QIVSAy3A5-g)", "Yes that's what I meant - first year of being introduced to an instrument.", "When the band comes in it’s like the orchestra in the shining.", "Na bro. I played in an orchestra through highschool, college, and I've participated in the Rose parade a few times in Oregon. These guys are just bad.", "When I was in middle school our band teacher would bully us for being off the mark. Like, he would straight up scream at us sometimes. So many kids dropped out of that class but my god was he an effective teacher. \n\nBy the time I was a Junior in highschool, he finally got fired for innapropriate behaviour. I always wonder what happened to him.\n\nI can still remember a comment my grandmother made about how we sounded better than my cousins professional jazz band, lol. Mixed feelings about the guy now that I'm older.", "It might have been easier to wrestle a literal train back on the tracks.", "This is why elementary bands should remain recorders only.", "That's not because of practice, that's innate skill. Practice would make the horn player better but they're already starting on 3rd base.\n\nMy daughter practiced her ass off in trombone but was never able to get it. Meanwhile, I can magically play piano OK without any practice or skill.\n\nWe're all different. I always wanted to be an artist. I went to college to be an artist and designer. 4 years of training. Both of my kids are better than me with absolutely no training. Their art is excellent and creative. No training.\n\nI am a better singer than them though. I play guitar better. I play piano better. If I tried, I could play horn better. I just can't paint for shit, even after decades of trying.\n\nWe all have different skillsets. I'm a good mechanic and my neighbor is confused by his pants. We make a good team. Everyone is different.", "The teacher didn’t motivate you to practice.", "I’m getting mad ketchup robot vibes from this", "Oh god. That was so godawful. Teacher definitely let the band go on stage just to teach them a lesson.", "“Walk until you hear the beehive”", "I mean, that's actually how to play jingle bells correctly. I has like 4 different notes in the entire song and pretty much all of them are the first one. It takes some REAL effort to fuck that up.", "Well next time I will tailor my comment to your taste. Who should I have said?", "A lot of Middle Eastern countries have endemic issues with military training and discipline, so it's really not that surprising. Wall of text: \n\n> In every society information is a means of making a living or wielding power, but Arabs husband information and hold it especially tightly. U.S. trainers have often been surprised over the years by the fact that information provided to key personnel does not get much further than them. Having learned to perform some complicated procedure, an Arab technician knows that he is invaluable so long as he is the only one in a unit to have that knowledge; once he dispenses it to others he no longer is the only font of knowledge and his power dissipates. This explains the commonplace hoarding of manuals, books, training pamphlets, and other training or logistics literature. On one occasion, an American mobile training team working with armor in Egypt at long last received the operators' manuals that had laboriously been translated into Arabic. The American trainers took the newly-minted manuals straight to the tank park and distributed them to the tank crews. Right behind them, the company commander, a graduate of the armor school at Fort Knox and specialized courses at the Aberdeen Proving Grounds ordnance school, collected the manuals from the crews. Questioned why he did this, the commander said that there was no point in giving them to the drivers because enlisted men could not read. In point of fact, he did not want enlisted men to have an independent source of knowledge. Being the only person who can explain the fire control instrumentation or boresight artillery weapons brings prestige and attention. In military terms this means that very little cross-training is accomplished and that, for instance in a tank crew, the gunners, loaders, and drivers might be proficient in their jobs but are not prepared to fill in for a casualty. Not understanding one another's jobs also inhibits a smoothly functioning crew. At a higher level it means there is no depth in technical proficiency. \n\nhttps://www.meforum.org/441/why-arabs-lose-wars", "dammit, mostlygray, sometimes pants can be confusing for some people. We cant all be born pants engineers.", "oh my, I think they spawned the devil...", "Christmas is typically the second recital.", "That really sums up 2021 nicely.", "I mean, they did it as well as you could reasonably expect from an elementary school kid at least.", "To be fair, under the Wahabist version of Islam that they subscribe to, musical instruments are banned. The only allowable form of music is just human voices.\n\nIt's why the Taliban used to stop cars and make you play whatever cassettes you had with you. If they were Islamic Nasheeds then you were fine but if there was a bootleg Michael Jackson tape, you were probably getting your ass beat that day.", "11 years old - but still gold", "Yes we in Texas has amazing music program", "this cannot not be an edit", "We need Jacob Collier to explain this arrangement", "The parents rising up and clapping warmed up my heart.", "It's been four years holy shit", "Kansas City BBQ.", "No way dude. I played piano recitals every grade through 8th, and practiced enough that the performances that weren't perfect where damn close. Kids absolutely can get music right if they've had competent instruction and sufficient practice.", "Ok, let me rephrase that, they played as well as you could expect your average elementary school kid to play, given that at that age they've likely only been playing their instrument for 2-3 years tops, unless they had parents who were rich or just cared enough about music to start their kid on a musical path early.", "Also most music outside of just singing with only certain types of drums is not allowed under the interpretations of Islam that are dominant in those countries. I'm surprised they even have bands.", "I mean, this is the band. It's not like their job is to go through hardcore military training. At some people they just don't give a shit.", "Didn't disappoint\n\nThis sums up 2021", "This is every first year school band ever", "oh my gawd give the guy a fuckin break mr \"orchestra teacher\"", "It sounds like there's a really large kazoo section. I don't remember those being in band...", "And TLJ is still a hilarious dumpster fire of a movie.", "Is jack skellington their band director? https://youtu.be/wC2hpeheqc8", "In the key of H.", "That's some Music Man level shit right there.", "All the \"I was in middle school band in 82 and we sounded better\" are being very generous towards their 40 year old childhood memories, let's put it that way.", "I enjoy it SO MUCH, lol- thank you for sharing. I don't know exactly why this has me in tears. I like to imagine that the band takes themselves super seriously", "I thought tlj was bad until rise of skywalker showed me what it looks like when they make a movie bad on purpose (I have to assume that's what they were doing). \n\nnow I am a fan of TLJ just because it looks so good in comparison", "I just mean it’s super specific, no need to get your knickers in a twist.", "Lesson number four - When Doves Cry\n\nFrom the time I was 12 until I finished high school at 18, my poor parents' calendar was blackened by an ambitious roster of concerts and recitals averaging at least one per month. They were always so gushy in their support it never dawned on me that they might have preferred to avoid junior high school gymnasium performances of the theme from Rocky. They acted as though their world revolved around my sister and me, and that's what we believed. \n\nBut I remember one night after an eighth grade band concert, I caught a glimpse of pencil marks on my father's rolled up program. He told me that he checked each movement of each piece off as they ended. Obviously because he was counting the seconds until he could go home. And at the time, I took it badly. I was offended that he had so little regard for the seriousness of our interpretation of \"What Do You Do with a Drunken Sailor?\" But now I see those pathetic little check marks as heart-shaped symbols of his love. \n\nEveryone says that love requires the utmost honesty, but that's not entirely true. Once I knew that my father was suffering for my sake, really suffering, I learned that love, especially the parental kind, requires the heartwarming sacrifice that can only accompany fake enthusiasm.\n\n\n[Sarah Vowell](https://www.thisamericanlife.org/104/music-lessons/act-two-0)", "Maybe they should induct them into the Syrian military orchestra. \nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Apo-AMTetbU", "You are correct. Usually, the royals are exempt from the religious oppression they let be imposed on us. But they are not going to find people to play anthems for them when they have allowed extremists to try to strip the population and culture of any music.", "Oh, we do recorders in 3rd grade - everyone plays. \n\nThe 4th grade concert band/orchestra is voluntary. You need to rent/own the instrument (there's also a limited number of school-owned instruments for those in financial need). My kid signed up for it. I encouraged it. I'm sure I'll be doubting myself while sitting in that concert next week, but if he sticks with it then it will absolutely be worth it! :)", "This is what happens when you don't \\_\\_\\_\\_ your kids.", "A lot of people sleep on the music programs of various schools in upstate NY. We sent more than a few graduates to Eastman and Fredonia was a solid option as well.", "This is either a fantastic satire of sequel trilogy stans, or you're one of the reasons that we keep getting subjected to ridiculous Disney bullshit.\n\n1. The lightspeed ram scene violates all internal consistency of Star Wars space physics. If that was ever possible, the Clone Wars would have ended in about three weeks. The CIS would have simply launched lightspeed droid rams at every single Venator that the Republic fielded. Anakin and Obi-Wan would have died on the Resolute period. If you like this scene, you're a fucking moron.\n\n2. The throne room fight is first of all disjointed and difficult to follow, especially since it follows the completely wasteful death of Captain Phasma. Simply poorly choreographed, and doesn't flow visually. See the Luke episode of Mandalorian to see how a real Jedi fights, or the IG-88 combat scene for how to choreograph combat. It also makes less sense than Rey somehow besting a trained fallen Jedi (Kylo) at Starkiller Base, especially since this entire movie takes place days after the first. She still managed to fight off highly trained and fanatical anti-Jedi warriors with armor that repels lightsabers, according to the official word. If you like this scene, you're a fucking moron.\n\n3. Crait was altogether a complete ripoff of Hoth that happened to showcase a lot of stupid decisions made by key characters. And Luke's ability, after spending years drinking blue tiddy milk and shunning the force, to project himself across the galaxy and guide those weird foxes to help the apparently 15-some Resistance members get through the cave, is utterly retarded. \n\nIf you really want to enjoy it, just admit that you're enjoying a bad fanfic Star Wars film. Quietly.", "pretty much no one will be good in 3/4/5th grade. right then and there it comes down to if they like it on their own, great! me? i actually didn't like it on my own, but my parents made me stick with the program. i'm actually glad they did, it was a fun experience.\n\nbecause, you can't really do that shit as an adult. it's hard as fuck to pick up an instrument and play in a band as an adult, but we could as a kid in the school program. so i'm glad they made me stick with it.", "10 y/o's vs 7 y/o's is a dramatic difference. This is almost certainly not a middle school band, but likely a much younger elementary band.", "As an elementary school band director..... yeah that's right on the money tbh.", "# CORRECT", "I’ve heard Microsoft Sam do a better version of the Soviet Anthem", "When is the first one?", "IMO TLJ at least tried to do something different other than just make a strictly worse episodes 4-6. The execution of those different concepts was extremely bad, but at least it showed some amount of originality.", "Early in the year.", "Idk how people can say TLJ is a bad fanfic starwars film when TROS exists lul\n\nI guess people just like bad fanfics\n\nAnd yea TLJ is the best of the bunch, no matter how much you whine that people won't be quiet about it lul", "I agree completely" ]	270	videos	When you're the only person in band that practices
https://youtu.be/Z0-v73PZWdE	/r/videos/comments/r6pfqd/how_an_f15e_scored_an_air_to_air_kill_with_a_bomb/	[ "Does that bomb have any guidance and maneuverability controls after it is dropped?", "It was a laser-guided bomb, so yes. The pilot kept the target helicopter \"painted\", even after it lifted off.", "No when they say laser guided they mean it is an unguided munition with a light show, the bombs really like laser light shows and they don't want it to feel depressed as it kamikazes.", "Damn, that really humanizes the bomb.", "In the Iraq war each bomb played Sandstorm when it fell. [It looked a lot like this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=valQZEMJBEg). Fun fact, the explosions didn't cause the most deaths, people faces melting off at the awesomeness did.", "Oh holy shit that is an amazing show." ]	6	videos	How an F-15E scored an air to air kill with a bomb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEL6P8uL-PQ	/r/videos/comments/r6q672/i_saw_the_coconut_smash_video_and_raise_you_the/	[ "Anyone have pumpkins?", "CTE World Record", "Holy concussion batman.", "Why and how is that even remotely relevant to this post? It’s some person that posts content on /r/apexlegends and you’re asking for their unban in the comments of a failed watermelon smashing video.", "I don’t know why, but I completely thought he’d smash those melons no prob. Proved wrong in less than one head-bangin’ second." ]	6	videos	I saw the coconut smash video and raise you the watermelon smash video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GefEJZltuNk	/r/videos/comments/r6q9lm/first_ever_2_million_score_in_nes_tetris/	[ "For an idea of how big of a record jump this is: \n\n* Previous WR: [1,676,400 by Huffulufugus](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDXGDAGofu4)\n* Now: 2,340,240\n\n1.4 million used to be considered a \"perfect game\" and is very hard to get. Now the record is almost a million more. Incredible stuff.", "For those wondering why the score goes from 999,999 to A00,000 it's because 999,999 is the maximum score value the NES version of this game can hold. Cheez is using a game genie or something similar to allow the score to continue counting past that. A = 1 million, B = 1.1, C = 1.2, etc. Until it breaks.\n\nThe speed he's inputting is often at, or close to, 30 hz, and he does this using a technique called rolling. Watch this to learn more: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-BZ5-Q48lE", "well scratch my itchy asshole, congrats!", "Check agamescout videos for the history of this WR, he cannot even keep pace with the developments and things being broken in the NES Tetris World. Everyone shifted from DAS to hypertap to rolling grips on the controller, fascinating. Maxouts used to be rare, now double maxouts are a given at the top levels of 1v1 competitions. \n\nWhen the pieces go fast, it’s the kill screen, now thrill/skill screen. It used to be unsurvivable and now it’s exciting when someone can chase down their opponent’s score in that mode" ]	4	videos	First ever 2 million+ score in NES Tetris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUngLgGRJpo	/r/videos/comments/r6qiy7/nuggets/	[ "Whoa. That was dark but very good. I was not planning on doing that much thinking today. Excellent work.", "simple but excellent. gentle yet accurate. more thought provoking than the usual business. good post!", "I'm not watching this. I'm not gonna get depressed again.", "I think the footsteps may be from counterstrike.", "Maybe it'll be better this time! C'mon, just one more little watch..." ]	5	videos	Nuggets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obzDfVZ2kmk	/r/videos/comments/r6qysy/this_koolaid_promotion_video_has_aged_like_fine/	[ "I genuinely felt sick watching this", "The finest of wines.", "top edits, this hiphop music the youth likes so much, classic slapstick - whats not to love about this?\n\n&#x200B;\n\n&#x200B;\n\n&#x200B;\n\n/s", "I used all my tickets I saved up in 1st grade at Norton Elementary in order to buy this on VHS. It's as beautiful as I remember.", "Oh no", "Looks like those cringey tik toks..\n\n(On a side note, as an amateur animator with Adobe PP, AE, Blender, as well as the wide webbed world of information at my fingertips, I have to give props to the special effects and animation team to pull that off in 1991.)", "OH YEAH", "I think we're meant to get high first?", "The early 90's was a fantastic time. 3D computer animation was exploding (see T2 and Jurassic Park, etc). Ditto with \"morphing\" (see the end of Michael Jackson's \"Black or White\" music video). Combined with all the bright colors and the frenetic style of the day and you get some crazy shit.", "The Grapist is a much better spokesman. That grape flavor really grapes you in the mouth.", "I see your Loony Tunes Kool-Aid, and raise you [one Nesbitts Orange Soda](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlo_Kdscw_A) and a 10-strip of LSD.", "Man, kids were sure zany back then.", "Jurassic Park didn't really use CGI, almost all of their effects were old-school animatronics", "Say what you will, but I remember seeing it in the theaters. That initial brachiosaurus standing up on its hind legs and eating from the tree was the most unbelievable thing I’d ever seen.", "Fuck yeah 90's were the best. Everything was wacky for wackiness sake.", "The original MLG.", "They most certainly used CGI extensively. Shortly after the release of Jurrasic Park I went to a Lucasfilm talk in San Francisco given at the Palace of Fine Arts where they demonstrated how their systems were able to generate believable dinosaurs. They even demonstrated different walking patterns and explained how it was a bit tricky to produce a believable walk that did not look funny or odd. For comedic effect they even included a CGI clip of velociraptor scratching its crotch.", "Can confirm.", "I had this video when I was a kid. It was in their send in UPC codes thing.", "This is patently untrue. They used massive amounts of CGI in conjunction with practical effects.\n\nWhat they did do was in addition to scene's that were primarily CGI, is use CGI to enhance those practical effects.", "Jurassic Park had about 5 minutes of full CGI dinosaurs. The rest was practical.\n\n5 minutes is quite a lot when you consider that most shots are in the 1-4 second range." ]	21	videos	This Kool-Aid promotion video has aged like fine wine (VHS 1991)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcBjO0HPbtg	/r/videos/comments/r6rgkl/crazy_possessed_aussie_cockatoo_scares_bystanders/	[ "Let the poor bastard out of the cage. He’s clearly not amused. I’m no tree hugging vegan weirdo, not that there’s anything wrong with those freaks, but fair go. Live and let bloody live and all that crap. If you’re in Australia and you’ve never seen a sulphur crested cockatoo before you really need to get outdoors more.", "this is not my video but i had no idea the bird felt that way. i jsut found this vid on youtube", "No need to apologize about this. It was a pre-coffee post. My bad. My aunt had one of these for years chained by the foot to a perch in her backyard. I snuck in and let it go many times. It would fly around the neighborhood for hours which always cheered me, and it always came back the same day or night. Suit yourself bird. Domesticated I guess…", "Damn that's really depressing. That sucks she had it chained. I have tiny lovebirds but we got them a big cage where they can fly inside so I coudln't imagine them litterly being chained down to a post :(" ]	4	videos	Crazy Possessed Aussie Cockatoo Scares Bystanders
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/r6run9/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/r6run9/deleted_by_user/	[ "Is there a link to these two facts, or just an observation?", "Pirates are cool. So cool that they kept the planet from overheating for years. But now that the number of pirates is dwindling, global temperatures are climbing out of control. Because we don't have any of those cool-ass pirates around to keep the earth chill.\n\n[https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2808343733?profile=original](https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2808343733?profile=original)", "Bts has LIGMA" ]	4	videos	[deleted by user]
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KArYW3ULl6U	/r/videos/comments/r6ruwp/3d_printer/	[ "that lady cute as hell", "Sarah Squirm https://twitter.com/sarahsquirm/status/1314630319094394880", "This is A+ material", "Looks like she's on it now: https://twitter.com/nbcsnl/status/1459765930960068611\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1fY2xtyXsY" ]	4	videos	3D printer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OvLdy2W0uw&t=338s	/r/videos/comments/r6s5pt/mark_kermodes_impersonation_of_jared_leto_is_spot/	[ "Mark K is awesome, leto can go fuck himself, fucking loser, being a millionaire actor doesn’t make you better.", "‘National Treasure’ is an overused term, but Mr Kermode definitely is one.", "he's also pretty much a cult leader" ]	4	videos	Mark Kermode's impersonation of Jared Leto is spot on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxKoDeJX7ek	/r/videos/comments/r6so2x/michael_jackson_vs_drunk_man/	[ "Honestly that's a closer match than I expected", "Original video of the talented street dancer ?", "That's a world class moonwalk I don't even think he's drunk.", "The full video is integrated into this one, so sadly there's no more to watch", ":(", "must be one of those pro dancer pretending to be some random hobo", "Seems like a passed sobriety check to me.", "It's pretty bloody close, I can't choose a winner.", "\"Sir if I could get you to moonwalk this line then give me a \"shamone\" and you can be on your way\"", "sir can you walk this straight line then touch your nose with your finger while I shine this light in your face while on one leg ..no but I can mothafuckin moonwalk bitch ! ahhheeheee!", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCkHBpvuVP0" ]	11	videos	Michael Jackson vs Drunk Man
https://youtu.be/GuPL4XUorjI	/r/videos/comments/r6svjr/paperboi_interview/	[ "Atlanta is a great show. Ready for season 3.", "Unban u/elpinko", "Oh c'mon you can't leave out the [transracial](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzRxbqvGXzw) part and the [payoff](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x85u_9Qlh1U).", "I really enjoyed season 1, but season 2 got a little to dark for my taste.", "Even Teddy Perkins?", "I liked the dark parts a lot myself. I'm happy to see all creative directions this show can go.", "There's a season 3? I've been waiting so long for this to return! Love it.", "This whole show is amazing, and this particular episodes is one of my favorites.", "Transracial.\n\nNow you've done it.\n\nLet's just wait for the shitstorm to kick off in the comments.", "The best whole episode probably in the series. Chilling.", "Not out yet, but there was a teaser for it recently", "Swing and a miss" ]	12	videos	paperboi interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtZO4kaF37o	/r/videos/comments/r6t7bw/arnold_schwarzenegger_in_a_world_of_tanks_holiday/	[ "Paging you here since it will get removed in the other subreddit, /u/GovSchwarzenegger:\n\nRespectfully Governor, why did you think it was a good idea to accept money from a company that provides Alexander Lukashenko with foreign currency? Are you aware this is a Belarusian company?", "That's a bit unfair. That's like hating on someone working with a business based in the US despite the horrific things US has been doing for the past long while.", "No, it's really not the same.\n\nhttps://home.treasury.gov/policy-issues/financial-sanctions/sanctions-programs-and-country-information/belarus-sanctions", "People who criticize other countries literally never send any of that blame to the US. As if we are just a neutral little country or something.", "First off, US is mostly immune to much of what it had done and for quite a lot where there was punishment, it got off easy. There is an obvious bias here in political power and might.\n\nSecondly, WarGaming that runs the game already has gave a name for itself by sponsoring so much from many US Tank shows, to US tank museums to even military in the US with people like Nicholas Moran" ]	6	videos	Arnold Schwarzenegger in a World of Tanks Holiday Ops trailer
https://youtu.be/rm7sTC214wQ?uwotm8	/r/videos/comments/r6thzy/detective_mike_hunt_beaver_falls/	[ "Calling his partner, Mike Rotch", "Ginny Sack with the 90 pound mole on her ass.", "It's different for women, body image, all that" ]	4	videos	Detective Mike Hunt, Beaver Falls
https://youtu.be/opMymGJ-WJ0	/r/videos/comments/r6tosm/call_me_this_is_not_a_fetish/	[ "This is now a fetish...", "Ok I laughed, I upvoted", "They wouldn't put that on TV! They wouldn't do that.", "So I guess Joel is the new Gus now.", "He's like Gus if Gus made videos longer than 20 seconds, and weekly.", "This just feels more like a Gus sketch for some reason.", "I appreciate Joel finding a reason to incorporate his new semi fitted suit into a video. If you got the suit you have to use it right!? I wonder if he had to goto a van wedding", "Misonary benison", "and funnier usually", "IMHO, Joel’s writing is better and more consist.", "and not cancelled", "Is Gus cancelled? Why?", "I've only vaguely followed the drama but I understand he treated his ex gf like absolute shit while she was pregnant and ultimately had a miscarriage.", "Source?", "funnier, a better filmmaker, more consistent and damn handsome.", "I'm fairly certain that some sort of intervention is almost always required when dealing with an ectopic pregnancy. Though I haven't watched her video so I don't know he own thoughts and reasoning.", "I always thought Gus's videos were funny...in the before times...", "The commenter worded that poorly. While the pregnancy ended up being ectopic, they didn't know that yet when he used emotional abuse (saying things like \"I will despise you and the child if you go through with the pregnancy\") when she expressed second thoughts about terminating the pregnancy.", "By _her_ testimony that is inaccurate. She didn't have an abortion. She was trying to have one and got run around by awful insurance and doctors. Until finally the ectopic pregnancy (un-diagnosed at that point) ruptured and forced her into the hospital and she finally had to have an emergency surgery to correct everything. She does mention that as her and gus became sexually active early in their relationship, they both agreed that if there was an unexpected pregnancy an abortion would be the course of action. But as she began to change her mind upon getting pregnant, he threatened to break up with her. She mentions a lot of instances of him being a shitty boyfriend (continuing with work/social plans as she went to the hospital) and being shitty as she recovered physically and mentally from all the trauma of the surgery. \n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIXuo4fclcw\n\nThis is all just her side of course though. Only thing from Gus has been this apology tweet: https://twitter.com/Gusbuckets/status/1452830104053116934\n\nSounds like he's stepping out of the light for a while." ]	19	videos	Call Me! (This is not a fetish)
https://youtu.be/ZcQ4Z89SC7w	/r/videos/comments/r6u4w7/phoebe_cates_last_acting_role_was_this_commercial/	[ "Then, drop dead Fred crashes through the front window and take a crap on that bracelet!!!", "I work round the corner from this store! It's and absolute god send for birthdays, anniversaries etc. Such and interesting range of knick knacks and the assistants always remember you and are super helpful :-)", "Cobwebs!", "Mr. Fischoeder!", "I miss her", "Who?", "For those who don't know, she's married to Kevin Kline (since 1989). You can tell how she looks at him in the beginning. I miss her acting but what a lovely couple :]\n\nAlso Blue Tree - the store - is hers. She opened it in 2005.\n\nIt's still around and they still have that necklace at the end for $1,200.", "a bodacious 80s actress that everyone loved. Fast Times at Ridgemont High, Gremlins, Drop Dead Fred. I'm sure you've seen something with her in it at one time.", "I'm missing something.", "I didn't know that. I was wondering why kline was in this lol", "For some reason, I always thought Kline was gay (and not because of that movie with Tom Selleck where he's a closet gay)", "Hello children", "Does Phoebe drop in?", "And by 'seen' they mean every teenager in the 80s saw her tits and most of them masturbated to them, even the girls.\n\nShe was impossibly hot and is now just normal hot.", "She was famous in the 80s and went topless in a movie. All the late boomers/early x-ers had a huge crush on her. She gave up acting in the 90s to focus on raising a family and, I guess, open this store.", "Cultural literacy. You'll find it if you look for it.", "The camera angle on her looks super sloppy since they wanted to keep the stairs in the shot. I was distracted by them the entire time. Poor framing imo", "you know whats weird... and also slightly disturbing to me personally (since she did a lot of great nude stuff in the early 80's) is that when Phoebe Cates married Kevin Kline they were the exact same ages as my mom and dad and they got married at the same time as well. \n\nwide age gap too and everything.", "It turns out that I still have a crush.", "Me too. Such a classic beauty." ]	20	videos	Phoebe Cates last acting role was this “commercial” for her boutique store in NYC (2013)
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/r6ud06/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/r6ud06/deleted_by_user/	[ "The Rorschach test is [pseudoscientific nonsense](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rorschach_test).", "[Rorschach test](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rorschach_test) \n \n >The Rorschach test is a psychological test in which subjects' perceptions of inkblots are recorded and then analyzed using psychological interpretation, complex algorithms, or both. Some psychologists use this test to examine a person's personality characteristics and emotional functioning. It has been employed to detect underlying thought disorder, especially in cases where patients are reluctant to describe their thinking processes openly. The test is named after its creator, Swiss psychologist Hermann Rorschach.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( \| )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( \| )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( \| )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove \| v1.5)", "Guy goes to a shrink. The shrink show him an inkblot and asked what he sees. \n\"Its a naked woman\"\n\nHe show another inkblot and asks what he sees.\n\n\"its a naked woman and she's spread eagle\"\n\nHe show another inkblot and asks what he sees.\n\n\"Its a naked woman spread eagle and she's touching herself\".\n\nThe shrink says \"Your problem is obvious, you are consumed with sexual thoughts\"\n\nHe answers \"But YOU are the one showing me dirty pictures\".", "it doesn't", "Omit the word \"how\" from the first sentence of the title and try again.", "We humans don't want to know what's wrong with us. The answer is we're not important, there's no master plan, somehow a giant cerebral cortex got glued to the brain stem of a monkey and it makes us think the universe is all about us. Sad, but true.", "It doesn't. It's made up. Freudian nonsense." ]	7	videos	[deleted by user]
https://youtu.be/ckA80P0uAfk	/r/videos/comments/r6ude8/heroin_addict_on_how_the_drug_ruins_lives/	[ "ewww junkie", "fk off", "I think he's saying it in the sense of \"I don't blame myself, and I've learnt from the mistakes I've made\". If he had a time-machine, I'm sure he'll do things different, but he doesn't want to pretend it never happened and accepts the person he is now afterwards.\n\nI've dealt with addicts (not professionally, just via family) - and stigma and shame are often the reason they continue to self-medicate.", "He says he has no regrets because of how much he's learnt from it and how much better of a person he has become.", "The sheer will power and determination this man needed to get off heroin was monumental. Some people have a bad hand in life and end up in bad places, coming back from it is an insane feat. In this video he is 12 years clean, yes it was a very bad decision but he deserves all the praise in the world.", "I spent 4 years addicted to heroin and the strength needed to leave it behind is hard to find.\nThe joy of the hit never goes away. I still think about how nice it would be to have some. Hell, I had some Codeine from the doctor and I asked for more without reason because the high was the same.\nThere are three of my new friends (because having friends from your old using life inevitably leads to relapse) who know my history with heroin.\nSome people have shown disgust, some people have shown sympathy.\nI feel glad that I was not found dead like many of my friends and glad that I can experience the world post heroin. Everything shines so much brighter when you have locked yourself in the dark.", "I just think it's cringe when people expect praise and admiration for quitting doing something shitty that they chose to do. \n\nLike cool dude you quit doing drugs. I dont do them either. Where is my award?", "When did the bloke ask for praise? He's sharing his story to try to persuade others to either not touch the stuff, Or give them hope that they too can break free of the chains. \n\nI have never touched heroin, and neither have you, so we don't understand the power that stuff can have over people." ]	7	videos	Heroin addict on how the drug ruins lives
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvNAw5yvWPM	/r/videos/comments/r6v1zu/xtc_performing_respectable_street_live_in_the/	[ "Yes!", "Andy Partridge was a fucking genius.", "I used to have the two LP set of Urgh! (Lost it in a move) I wish someone had a YT playlist for it all.", "https://archive.org/details/urghamusicwar", "Fun band! Why don't they tour?", "Thanks I'll check into that tomorrow!", "I love that film! Introduced me to so many great bands. And Lux Interior and his gravity defying leather pants.", "They haven't done a proper tour since 1982. The lead songwriter and vocalist of XTC, Andy Partridge, had severe anxiety and stage fright issues the entire time he was performing live with XTC, but it was counteracted by a dependence on Valium, which he had been on since he was 12. \n\nIn 1981, his wife at the time threw out his Valium, which made Partridge go cold turkey instead of gradually stopping his use of Valium. This led him to have the suppressed anxiety come out and after a concert in Paris in 1982 where Partridge ran off stage within 2 minutes of the concert starting due to stage fright [(Which there is footage of here)](https://youtu.be/yK56TC-UhOM?t=864), they never played Europe again. After a couple gigs in the US, he decided to never perform live again, even when they were about to go on their first US tour as a headliner and were about to play a sold-out gig at the 4000 seat hollywood palladium on the exact same day he decided to quit playing live. \n\nXTC would remain a studio band for the rest of their existence. They would perform a few live radio and tv appearances years later, but they would never perform a proper live gig on stage again after 1982.", "He's not dead yet!!! He just released a new EP this year: https://burningshed.com/andy-partridge_my-failed-songwriting-career_vinyl", "XTC is an amazing band that has grabbed me as a 16-year-old and 16 years later still does. Partridge and Colin Moulding shaped me as a musician." ]	10	videos	XTC performing Respectable Street live in the concert movie Urgh! A Music War in 1980 during their brief time performing live.
https://youtu.be/EpiSzfMVPmg	/r/videos/comments/r6v3t6/apple_airtag_used_to_expose_dhl_fraud/	[ "Does \"pedestrian mail\" ever get in to DPRK?", "AirTags are pretty impressive. That tracking network is super robust.", "tbh i dont see fraud here at all.", "I worked at Dell in the US as a salesman when they tried to use DHL for 3-5 day ground and 2nd day shipping in order to save money. I can remember at least 3 seperate incidents of a customer calling me upset their package was late where I looked up it's tracking data to find that the package that was shipped from the US to another US destination was in Mexico.\n\nEventually after enough employees and customers complained they switched back to UPS for those shipping methods.", "What would you call it? If they can't deliver to North Korea, and know they can't deliver to North Korea, why are they taking money to deliver packages to North Korea?", "Ok but try the same \"fraud\" with a normal country in USA/Europe/Canada and not a 3rd world communist country. Its considered as a rogue state and many US companies cant work there.", "But then why would they say that they can deliver there?", "A mistake? What if they normally deliver to DPRK but haven't been able to since the pandemic started, but so few people send mail to DPRK that head office isn't aware and hasn't updated the website / company information to reflect this.\n\nHead office should know, given that the DPRK office knows, but maybe they don't have a robust process for updating the information on shipping to DPRK.", "This is why I have a lot of respect for internet sleuths.", "Talking about north Korea dude. This is where he sent the package to.", "North Korea is also not communist", "Ok..\nhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism_in_Korea", "Well do the people of north korea not know that some random redditor dont consider their communist dictator ship a communist dictator ship?", "Once is a mistake. What about 3 times like in the video? Still a mistake?", "Yes. Still a mistake. \n\nThis is how large companies with thousands of employees operate. The left-hand doesn't always talk to the right. The people he ends up talking to on the phone are support monkeys. They have limited tools and even more limited power. They don't set policy and they can't make changes. Most of them are minimum wage employees with a script in front of them and just want to avoid complicated calls. Even the ones that will try and go above and beyond to help you.....can't. They send an email that sits unread in a manager's inbox.\n\nThis is just the same mistake made several times in a row because the relevant people aren't aware of it. The fact that BOTH of his packages ended up in South Korea actually supports this theory. If willfull fraud was happening.....we would have seen different results.", "Actually two different mistakes. One mistake is that their system allows packages labelled \"DPRK\" to be routed to \"ROK\", not sure if this is human error or process error since one of them correctly made it to China. The other mistake is that their system allows packages to be sent to DPRK in the first place despite the DPRK office knowing that the country is not accepting international shipments. Seems like they need to do a process review but this process (international air freight from Germany to DPRK) is probably so rare they don't know or don't care about the need to review it.\n\nAnd yeah, the package keeps going to the wrong place three times because the mistake is in how the delivery is being processed. You put in the same inputs you expect the same output.\n\nWhat's the other explanation? That they _know_ they don't deliver to DPRK, but take the customers money anyway? Then they air freight it half way around the world, air freight it back again, then offer a full refund to the customer, losing money in the process? Why would they do that, it would be cheaper to just say \"we can't deliver to DPRK right now.\"\n\nYes it is annoying to the customer and yes they should fix it, but accusing this of being some kind of scam, when it probably only happens a few times a year and they offer the customer refunds.... is not really a big money making scheme.", "There isn't really any significant benefit for them to lie intentionally. Do you really think they are making meaningful money sending packages to North Korea?", "Gotta get those clicks.", "This guy and RoaringShit above are bots for sure. Brand new accounts. \n\nMan the North Korea shilling is really low-budget compared to China and Russia lol", "By definition, DPRK would be considered a [2nd World](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_World) nation\n\nEDIT:\nFrom Wikipedia: “First World\", \"Second World,\" and \"Third World\" changed from being based on political ideology to an economic definition.[1] The three-world theory has been criticized as crude and relatively outdated for its nominal ordering (1; 2; 3) and sociologists have instead used the words \"developed\", \"developing\", and \"underdeveloped\" as replacement terms for global stratification (which in turn have been criticized as displaying a colonialist mindset);[2] nevertheless, the three-world theory is still popular in contemporary literature and media. This might also cause semantic variation of the term between describing a region's political entities and its people.[3]”", "Yea but the key here is that they offered the refund. So they aren’t taking money and keeping it. Their system just sucks and they need to change their NK delivery status", ">What's the other explanation? That they know they don't deliver to DPRK, but take the customers money anyway? Then they air freight it half way around the world, air freight it back again, then offer a full refund to the customer, losing money in the process? Why would they do that, it would be cheaper to just say \"we can't deliver to DPRK right now.\"\n\nDPRK is not the main issue highlighted in the video. The main issue is that when DHL realises that there may be an issue with a shipment, it appears they quickly default to claiming an item is lost, when it isn't.\n\nWhy is this important? Well a proper resolution would be to tell the customer the truth. We made a mistake. We can't deliver the package. We're refunding you and returning the item - without the customer having to escalate the issue after being made to jump through administrative hoops.\n\nThe alleged false representation of facts (fraud) is telling a customer an item is lost, when in fact it could be returned if only DHL devoted some staff time to finding the item which is in their facility.\n\nHow much money does DHL save each year by misrepresenting items as lost? That is the real issue here. Not DPRK.", "Spot on with your comment! It seems a lot of people aren't clear on why I'm labelling this fraud. I'll try make it clearer next time!", "It's spelled out in the video TBH. It's just the usual Reddit thing of people commenting on content they haven't read/watched first." ]	27	videos	Apple AirTag used to expose DHL fraud
https://youtu.be/sOhDLiA81To	/r/videos/comments/r6vsxd/did_you_like_ghostbusters_afterlife/	[ "Eh.", "Oh, I really liked it. The kids carried this movie.", "It was the sequel they needed to make. And the ending was absolutely awesome. If you didn't grow up with the movies, you probably didn't care like us old folks did.", "\"We came, we saw, it kicked our a$$e$!\"", "Could’ve done without the Force ghost really. Otherwise total fan service, very edible, 2.9 out of 5 stars.", "No, it wasn’t the sequel they needed to make. It was 2 hours of nostalgia bating, relying on old characters to start off the plot, to save the day and to referenced and revered. \n\nI didn’t need to pay to watch a movie saying “this film thinks the heroes from 30+ old series are pretty cool!”. Make some new memorable heroes and moments that people are going to remember in 30+ years. Half the new “Ghostbusters” don’t even have a personality outside of “they fancy each other”.", ">It was 2 hours of nostalgia bating, relying on old characters to start off the plot, to save the day and to referenced and revered. \n\nIsn't that every sequel? Don't they all rely on previous characters and storylines to make the movie whole? Without it, it wouldn't be a sequel.....", "No, it isn’t every sequel and films that do reference older entries in a series don’t even need to have the same cast, either. Look at Jumanji 2017 and how it did a tasteful modern entry into a loved universe without relying on the CGI corpse of Robin Williams to help save the day.", "Let use Jumanji as the example then.... It's the same plot line. Kids play the same exact game and get stuck in it. How is that different than these kids fighting ghosts relating to Ivo Shandor and Gozer? It seems your only problem is the nod to Harold. Which didn't use his voice, just a likeness.", "Are you still arguing with me after I just destroyed your previous lame statement? Same exact game? Except they modernized it completely and recontextualized it all with gaming power ups and features, making it exciting and different in a whole new way for the series.\n\nNotice how they didn’t have to needlessly battle Van Pelt like the previous characters did 22 years earlier. That would’ve been lazy and easy.\n\nI have no issues with new characters having a “similar plot line” - my problems start when new characters needed old characters to start their problem, guide them around their equipment and eventually help solve their problem.\n\nI literally mentioned multiple problems and the fact that you’re positioning that as your takeaway from my words is that you’re either being wilfully dense or know you have zero great response to make.", ">I have no issues with new characters having a “similar plot line” - my problems start when new characters needed old characters to start their problem, guide them around their equipment and eventually help solve their problem.\n\nSo some of the most successful sequel movies and trilogies of all time use the same exact characters through out. LoTR, Matrix, Star Wars, Harry Potter, Jaws, ANY MARVEL MOVIE.... Hell, even Harry Potter doesn't just kill off a character when the actor dies, they just recast them and pretend they are the same person. \n\nI'm sorry you're an antisemitic asshole that hates Harold Ramis but the rest of the world thought it was well done. \n\n>you’re either being wilfully dense or know you have zero great response to make.\n\nSorry some of us are on a phone during a commute and can't type a page to respond to an Nazi.", "Looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool.\n\nNice projecting there.", "Username checks out...." ]	13	videos	Did you like Ghostbusters Afterlife?
https://youtu.be/eWhpzv0X2pc	/r/videos/comments/r6w62j/the_best_music_video_ive_seen_in_australia_by_far/	[ "Doesn’t even hold a candle to the [Most Australian Music Video Ever Made](https://youtu.be/HB6_zFW4c30)", "Yeah nah, [this is clearly the most Australian video ever made. ](https://youtu.be/j58V2vC9EPc)", "I stand corrected" ]	3	videos	The best music video I’ve seen in Australia by far
https://youtu.be/i6zOX69A-cU	/r/videos/comments/r6wmxg/not_so_sportsmanlike/	[ "Go directly to jail. Do not collect $200.", "What a fucking baby.. waaa.. you lost.", "We don’t know why the dude had a beef. I highly doubt it was because of the score. More than likely, the punched dude was talking shit of some kind (and not getting caught) during the game. So one guy says, here you go, let me introduce you to Mr. right x2 and Mr. left …", "With your theory, more than likely, this douchebag physically assaulted someone because he couldn't take some shit talking while playing a competitive sport.", "I like Bob Menery’s take better.", "Ah yes. The proper way to show dominance and teach people not to disrespect you. \n\nWith a sucker punch.\n\nAll this kid demonstrated is that he has no problem with people knocking him the fuck out when he's not paying attention if they have an issue with him.", "This guy assaulted someone cause the other guy said something mean", "Be offended, nothing happens! - Steve Hughes", "Only pussies sucker punch.", "Wish he would try mma if he thinks he can fight lol" ]	10	videos	Not so sportsmanlike
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FssULNGSZIA	/r/videos/comments/r6wsnw/pneuma_by_tool_danny_carey_might_just_be_the_best/	[ "Whole thing's awesome to watch, but if you're in a hurry, skip to 5:45\n\nBot do your thing.", "He is insanely good. I think rolling stone had a best 100 drummers article a few years back, I think he was 20th, all the drummers better than him were jazz drummers. The next closest metal drummer to him was Joey Jordison I think", "Maynard kind of phoning in this performance tho", "can't rush the rhythm", "Portnoy must have been higher than Jordison. If not, he should have.", "[ Jump to 05:45 @ Danny Carey \| \"Pneuma\" by Tool (LIVE IN CONCERT)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FssULNGSZIA&t=0h5m45s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: Vic Firth, Video Popularity: 98.20%, Video Length: [11:48])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@05:40](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FssULNGSZIA&t=0h5m40s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^\| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)", "Fear Inoculum is a pretty boring album tbh, I don't know what he could really do to make the song sound more engaging.", "Fear Innoculum is a pretty glorious album for the band, but it sounds like Maynard checked out a while ago and may not have been expecting them to produce material for him to put vocals to. And I say this with all the respect, but maybe his rockstar days are behind him.", "Danny Carey's cymbal work is absolutely fantastic. \n\nI recently came across another drummer who reminded me of Carey in a lot of ways when it comes to precise cymbal work.\n\n[Clay Aeschliman, the drummer for Polyphia](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1LPPEpKveU)", "Danny is super down to earth as well. I met him at a Mr. Bungle show precovid. I snuck up onto the rooftop vip area and bought him a drink and all he would talk about is how awesome Dave Lombardo just played during the Bungle set.", "Dude, I went to A Perfect Circle in 2000 and Maynard laid down the entire time. He stood up once to throw his wig into the crowd, but immediately laid down again. He's been that way for awhile.", "He’s pretty clean but idk man there are quite a few jazz drummers and percussionists who are leagues better. \n\nAlso [JD Beck](https://youtu.be/NCnrYD9HaRg) (skip to 1:50)", "Glad I'm not the only one that feels this way. Phenomenally talented musicians were given too much time and leeway. It was overwrought and meandering. Opiate, Undertow, and Ænima will always be my favorites.", "JD Beck is good, but sort of a one trick pony. And definitely not better than Carey, by far.", "Just looked up the article and they have Ringo Starr at #14. Maybe not the best list.", "I mean, he has had several songs on the past few albums that directly reference his distancing from the rockstar life. The man just wants to make wine. I love Tool and many fans would think it's blasphemy to consider the band making music without Maynard, but the band is perfectly capable of producing brilliance without vocals - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ukDsv3pweo", "Ringo Star is the #1 most underrated drummer though.", "So on point", "after Neil Peart", "It’s hard not to watch this every time it’s posted. He’s an octopus", "[Great interview with Maynard about his winemaking](https://youtu.be/jyDWYHGCRYY)", "Aenema will always be one of the best songs of all time for me!", "I waited half of my adult life for it after being a MASSIVE fan and was soo let down :(", "Can you point me toward some songs where you think he's drumming particularly well?", "hes considered to be one of the best because hes basically a human metronome.", "Ringos drum parts are incredible\n\ncomplicated? no, not all\n\nbut are they perfect for the songs? absolutely.", "lol, your go to is JD Beck?\n\nwhat a joke", ">best drummer on the planet\n\nno, and it's not even close", "lateralus is my all time, followed by schism.", "Can you blame him. The band takes forever to make a song. Sends it to him and the middle of writing the vocals the band decides to change it again. At least that's how he says it works. There's probably 200 tool songs nobody will hear.", "honestly i love danny but can't stand tool due to the singer. the sooner he leaves the better imo", "if we are going to mention under rated drummers i suggest you all go and listen to Biffy Clyro's first album, Blackened Sky. it's kinda emo but came out before that stuff really took off, if you don't mind or can get past that you will hear some phenomenal drumming!", "He's still putting in work with APC and Puscifer though.", "His toms work is badass as well", "My favourite drummer of the moment (and I am a heavy metal drummer) is Darkside from Mgla. \n\n\nStick with it until about 6:00 when the fun really starts. Don't jump ahead, let it mellow and enjoy it until then.\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ey9An4DQDiw", "Yeah I think he has either some kind of stage fright issue, or considers himself so entirely above the whole performance thing that he just doesn't take it seriously. He hasn't ever really been a big performer for as long as I've been listening to them and that's 20+ years.", "Holy crap... this is awesome. Thanks for sharing. Haven't heard of this band/drummer before!", "Lmao what a take", "If Neil Peart didn't exist... sure", "I mean, he kind of doesn't any more.", "Great video, felt a bit tricked that it turned into a gibson commercial, but still cool, thanks", "Posted every 24 hours. Watch it every time." ]	43	videos	Pneuma - by Tool - Danny Carey might just be the best drummer on the planet
https://youtu.be/QlT7XH925l0	/r/videos/comments/r6x3fb/fed_ex_driver_doesnt_want_to_deliver/	[ "https://youtu.be/QlT7XH925l0", "Good for him", "Get another job fucking loser, there’s someone who’s struggling out there who would gladly deliver for FedEx without this half assed BS", "it does look kinda lazy, but ngl, for what he gets paid and the time schedule they have him on... I don't really blame him", "LMFAO" ]	5	videos	Fed Ex Driver Doesn't Want To Deliver
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBLxAIqBavg	/r/videos/comments/r6x6wr/hey_folks_gary_sinise_here_im_overwhelmed_with/	[ "Another classy move, Mr Sinise.", "Thank God you weren’t on Apollo 13.", "Thank you Gary!", "I love you, Gary Sinese.", "We need to add Gary Sinise the exclusive good guy actor club on Reddit! Keanu and Brendan need some company.", "You're welcome, Lt. Dan!", "ICE CREAAAAAM", "You're a good man, Gary. You took a role that changed your life and it could have gone two ways: You could have shown up, got paid and moved on. But no, you owned the role. You put yourself in a vet's shoes. You felt their pain. And damnit, you DID something about it. \n\nBecause of that I have always and will continue to appreciate the hell out of everything you do and I will continue to sing your praises. Keep up the good work.\n\nEdit: an award from Gary Sinise himself!!! Dude, I have been a fan of yours since I watched The Stand on TV when I was a kid. You are easily my favourite celebrity.", "I'm a big fan of your work, I sincerely hope that you find more success in helping others.", "This is fantastic but how do we get people from not going to war in the first place?", "That is the most wholesome post history I have ever seen in my time on Reddit.", "Best dude.", "That’s great. Please don’t give money to Republicans.", "Upvoted w/out even watching", "Not forgiving you for what you did to Lennie", "You're doing good things, Gary. Keep it up and thanks.", "Gary you are legitimately my hero. Thank you for everything.", "I'm OOTL What viral post is he talking about?", "God bless Gary!", "thank you Lieutenant dan", "Ryan Reynolds is in the building.", "Thank you Gary!", "Keep up the good work Gary!", "You are a beacon of light to be guided by. Thanks Gary!", "No... Thank YOU, sir. You're one of those folk I point to when others doubt the good in this world. You're a good egg, Gary.", "Thank YOU Gary, for all the work you do to serve our vets. God bless!", "Legend of the entertainment industry and hero of veterans' advocacy 🙌", "He supports Donald \"grab them by them pussy“ Trump. Definitely a good guy there.", "But Liutennent Dan, you ain't got no legs!", "Lieutenant Dan.........Ice Cream!", "Nothing but love for ya Gary!!!", "You’re one of the good ones, man. Glad to help. I can’t take all of the credit, but I will take most. So many Redditors were on the fence, but I said, “Hey, come on!” + here we are.", "Thank you for the invaluable work you and your team do everyday for veterans and their families. It's truly wonderful what you've been able to accomplish. Your service to those who chose to give their all is incredible!", "Um, no he doesn't? He's conservative yeah, but he's been critical of rump and did not vote for him.", "Hello from Steppenwolf, Gary! Thanks for all you do. We’re looking forward to restarting Vets’ Nights. Come back to the mothership (the revamped mothership) and do a play here!", "Thank you for this message. I believe we can never do enough to show gratitude and appreciation, so they know there are grateful people out there. Again, thank you.", " Appreciate your message. It’s an honor to support those who sacrifice so much.", "Gary Sinise, Keanu Reeves, Dave Grohl, and Ryan Reynolds.", "Ice CReeaaammmmm", "We love you Mr. Sinise <3\n\nI listen to a vet-podcast called The Jocko Podcast that I think you would be a great guest for. Just a thought, maybe you could talk more about the work you have done and what you have learned. I hope you have a great holiday season!", "https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/r640t4/gary_sinise_aka_lieutenant_dan_from_forrest_gump/", "Thank you for sharing your massive passion, empathy and effort throughout your career!\n\nMission to Mars was what first made me want to become an Astronomer!\n\nI remember loving your scienctist portrayal all the way from the scene where you drove up with in the electric vehicle.\n\nThank's for giving so much!!", "Sorry, seems like his conservatism advocacy group, Friends of Abe, was [usurped](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jun/13/hollywood-republicans-friends-of-abe-club-trump) beforehand. Still though, they had scum like Steve Bannon and Breitbart as members before the group collapsed.", "Not only do you have legs, you use them to help carry the burdens of those without. Thanks Gary Sinise.", "As a kid, I remember watching Forrest Gump and really being moved by Lieutenant Dan. 25 years later as a veteran, and knowing how much you've done for us, I've come to realize how much cooler Gary is than Lt. Dan. Thanks for your longtime efforts.", "Hello Gary, i farded", "Nice. Dude is a triple OG", "No Gary, THANK YOU, for everything that you have done, and that you continue to do.\n\nInvictus Games competitor, Orlando 2016! The Lt Dan Band ROCKED that night!", "I'm not even in the military and I feel the need to salute Gary. It's also about time to throw on Reindeer Games for movie night.", "Come visit us in Springfield, USA.", "Bless you! You've done so much good for so many deserving people.", "This is a post about supporting veterans, many of whom supported Trump. Take your politics elsewhere, child.", "What an outstanding human being he is. He lives about an hour away from me. If I saw him in a bar or a restaurant, I would love to pay his tab.", "I fell in love with your acting when watching The Stand when I was a kid. Seeing you go on and enact real change in the world has been such an inspiring and motivating thing to see. You're a good person, a great actor, and an example of compassion we should all learn from", "The REDDIT community?! - AJ Styles", "Gary, I was in Baghdad 2003 when you and kid rock and John stamos were there for USO. Thank you so much for brightening my day. I’ll never forget the shouts of LT Dan when you took the stage. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. A happy memory in a sea of shit.", "I'm confused. Is this your alt? \n\nWell deleting your message just confirmed it, but that's fine.", "You’re a hero Gary! Thank you for your service!", "Wait do you have two usernames?", "Gary Sinise is specifically known for disliking Trump and his administration despite being historically Republican, lol. Quit talking out of your ass.", "Yeah looks like he slipped up there.", "You’re an amazing person! \n\nThanks for all your hard work!", "Hey Gary.", "reddit has a community?", "Gracias Gary, es un placer ver a un buen hombre, thanx", "Just wanted to say, I love your performances and love what you've done for veterans. \n\nAlso, I once saw you play after a Braves game at the Battery. Absolutely killed it, man! \n\nKeep up the stellar work and hopefully will get the chance to see you again one day!", "Gary we use Forrest Gump's effects as a joke conspiracy theory in our friend group.\n\nCan you confirm if you do or do not have legs?", "Thank you, Lt. Dan. You are always a first class act.", "You're doing a lot of good work, Mr Sinise. Thank you.\n\nAlso, I've been watching a lot of Apollo 13 lately. Your acting in that was great.", "Hi Gary. I'm the daughter, sister, and descendent of many soldiers who have served. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for taking care of those children and their families with dignity. \n\nThey deserve great care, respect, and to not have such difficult and emotional times used to push an agenda/advertise as so many companies and groups do, but not you. You give them that respect and so much more. It's a struggle that few children face, but your efforts to give them joy and a happy memory for that sole purpose gives me hope in humanity.\n\nThank you.", "Where'd your other comment go calling him out directly? This comments section is getting interesting.", "As an American Redditor, I'm very happy to know that there's someone out there genuinely making sure that the Vets know that the American people care about them. That we DO care about their health and their re-integration into society. \n\nMessage to Redditors: it's important to not alienate the people protecting you and empathize with their disillusionment upon returning home.* \n\nEven if the VA or the \"people up top\" don't care and are cool with using the brave men and women of our armed forces as pawns in geopolitical games. \n\nIf you're \\[redditor\\] mad about how much we spent in Iraq and Afghanistan; imagine how the vets may feeling; having lost so much more. Friends, youth, health, partners, money... dignity, purpose; in some cases. \n\nI can't fathom that level of disillusionment. At least I get to bitch about Iraq costing a trilly from the comfort of my couch and then drink scotch and watch Netflix. \n\nThey live with the scars forever.\n\nWild.\n\nThanks Gary for being there for them.\n\nIt's really sad that nowadays they don't only get PTSD and physical injuries, but often are socially ostracized as well, due to the shitty (arguably futile) wars we've been in during the 21st century; and EVEN THE VA doesn't want anything to do with them when they get cancer until they prove it's \"service related.\" WTF?\n\nReddit, loves you dude. You're a good guy for standing up for them and being a voice for them. \n\nJon Stewart has also been talking about Vets a lot recently and their exposure to toxic burn pits (and then being denied medical care by the VA). He recently came back to media with a show about it. Y'all should do a crossover! Maybe you can tell him about Reddit. He's a bit of a Luddite.\n\nIn either case, it's a shame how vets are treated in this country. Especially given their sacrifice for ~~the petrodollar... making Iraq and Afghanistan democratic again...~~wealthy peoples' yacht money.", "I saw the Lieutenant Dan Band at Travis AFB, CA in 2012/13 (I think). This man and his band absolutely KILLED IT that night in the hangar. He played for at least two and a half hours to my recollection. And was so appreciative of the troops and our families. \n\nNot to mention all the other good he does with the money he earns from shows and merch sales! \n\nHe loves the Military and I hope he knows the Military appreciates the hell out of him as well! Gary is a gift!", "Ashton Kutcher as well", "The king himself, Gary freakin' Sinise! Calling what you do 'Philanthropy' puts all your charitable work lightly. Keep on being amazing dude!", "Admirable perspective in the heat of a once-in-a-lifetime type of discovery.", "Shaking this dude's hand as he was departing from an event while we were lined up around the block, waiting to see Titanic at a theatre in podunk-town Idaho, was the highlight of my teenage years. \n\nThank you for being so graciously awesome then, and since, Gary Sinise. :)", "Just for the hell of it [Tom Hanks!](https://youtu.be/4SQfsBsMFls?t=345)", "So tired of Reddit’s obsession with this Republican asshole. People who support the party of racism, xenophobia, bigotry, and idiocy are not worthy of respect, much less the blind adoration Reddit heaps on him.", "We love you Gary.", "You're awesome man! Keep up the good work, we'll always be here :D!", "You win for best profile pic and username, hands down! God that episode of Kitchen Nightmare is still one of the best! Completely batshit insane entertainment!", "I always liked you, Gary Sinise.", "Mr. Sinise, had the pleasure of seeing your band at Port Hueneme. Please keep doing what you do, you are in incredible person.", "Who?", "Cant believe this is the real Gary Sinise. The first ever movie I saw of you was back in 1995 (i think) in Forrest Gump back on VHS.... All the way in the island of Samoa! Your performance as Lieutenant Dan always stood out to me as a young samoan islander for some reason. \n\n \nDont know what is going on in your life, but damn you are an awesome person SIR!\n\n \nManuia mai Samoa!", "I never in a million years thought I would get to tell you this, but thank you!! \n\nI saw you at Fort Hood in 2004 at 4th Infantry Division's welcome home celebration/ceremony.", "Hey man, keep up the good work!", "Lt. Dan, god dammit!", "I love you Gary Sinise!", "You ain’t got no gratitude LT Dan", "Lt. Dan, you're always the hero!", "You were great as NASA hero Ken Mattingly. I'll send some dough your charity's way this Xmas. Thanks for your support for the boots.", "Gary Sinise starting to look like Neal Peart.", "Who?", "Waited on him Gary Senise at a restaurant I used to work at. Total gentleman. As well as the party he was with - sometimes you can tell the quality of a person by the quality of the people they're with. Honestly, didn't really stand out as a \"celebrity.\" Just a normal dude with excellent manners.", "He did get new legs...", "At Cracker Barrel! Anyone want anything?", "Hey dude I love your purpose!", "Illinois boy making us all proud as usual", "Gary Sinise is a national treasure", "Gary would absolutely defeat you in a death match. I'd be shocked if he even left anything identifiable. You're 1,000 years too early to challenge Gary Sinise.", "Did anyone else just like, feel better after he saluted you?", "While you are 100% right, pre-Trump Gary Sinise raised exorbitant sums of money for the GOP through Friends of Abe and has done countless pro-police fundraisers. Actively contributing to either cause should be grounds enough to take you out of the good guy club", "Hey, I own a piano that Gary once played one time at a Christmas party in Blue Island, IL. I found it at a thrift store. I was so excited and I still own and play it. Thank you, Gary!", "Don't forget Woody Harrelson.", "Lieutenant Dan. You got new legs!", "This is hilarious!!!", "When thinking of Gary that's the first role jumping into my mind instead of Lt. Dan actually. Really love that movie.", "I was so confused by this thread til you said veterans.", "….and he plays bass.", "Well that was genuine and nice. No comments or critiques, just seems like a decent person.", "You're a propagandist for Pentagon war crimes. Please go away Gary.", "Gary, I doubt you'll ever see this but I want you to know that you have changed my life and my mothers life for the better.\n\nTo make a long story short and less awful/sad, my mom raised me as a single mother and we used to watch Forrest Gump every few months when I was a little kid because it was my comfort film that relieved me from my C-PTSD, depression and anxiety. You were always my favorite and I used to tell my mom \"I WANNA MEET DAN!!!!!!\". She told me I would one day. As an adult, reading about who you are as a person and everything you've done... I adore you even more. Thank you, Gary for being who you are.", "Hey Gary! Former Army here. Can you just say hi? That would be so cool!\n\nI actually saw you in the Lieutenant Dan Band while you were touring South Korea while I was stationed there. Tiny base called Camp Howze. 2006-2007 Timeframe?\n\nAnyhow, keep up all the great work you do with vets!!", "Aka a large portion of Republicans reddit seems to not know exists. Moderates ftw", "Your first comment and then this follow up right here are two perfect examples of why this site sucks so much.", "Why? Being \"pro police\" doesn't mean that you are anti-public or that you support the rare police idiots that give a bad name to all. Perspective dude", "Yeah, he's great, and so wholesome. Helped me learn to love Ronald Reagan when I visited his library. I used to be a bit of a leftie, but now I've seen the light. Fuck poor people, except for wounded veterans!", "George, tell me about the rabbits George", "So does your mum.", "Sometimes it's not so bad meeting your heroes.", "Thanks man, as a veteran it’s always great to see high profile people go out of their way to support us and make us feel heard. I appreciate it", "Along with a friend, I just happen to be the co-president for life of the \"Indifferent to Gary Sinise Club\". \n\nI don't remember exactly what movies we were talking about, but one thing is clear, Gary Sinise came up. I think at that point I had seen Gary Sinise in Forrest Gump and a fee other movies. Anyway, whatever movie we were talking about, and it may have very well indeed been Forrest Gump, and I just casually mentioned that as a person I was fairly Indifferent to Gary Sinise. I didn't look forward to seeing him in movies, I wasn't particularly upset or put off by him being in films, not did I find him attractive or unattractive. I think he was maybe the first person I was truly indifferent too. So much so, that that was the first conversation about Gary Sinise I'd ever had. \n\nMy friend laughed and said, \"That would be a funny name for a club, the Indifferent to Gary Sinise Club.\" And so it was born. \n\nI will admit that it was somewhat challenging remaining indifferent to Gary Sinise over the years, being part of a club that was dedicated to being not dedicated to Gary Sinise. Of course, when my friend and I would meet.up, invariably one of us would ask the other about the state of our indifference. There might have been some mild fibbing on our answers. After all, how can one be truly indifferent to someone who was the subject of such a cool and exclusive club? \n\nAnd yet here we are and I can proudly say that I literally haven't given Gary Sinise a thought in years. I was probably helped by the fact that Gary Sinise's movie and possibly television roles were smaller or in films or TV shows I wasn't interested in. One doesn't necessarily follow the career of a Gary Sinise closely, if at all. \n\nAnd now this reddit post has caused me to remember Gary Sinise. I'm not excited or angered by this turn of events. In some ways it is good to be reminded. Again, I'm not actively avoiding Gary Sinise, I'm just indifferent. \n\nUltimately, I'm not surprised he's still out there doing good work, on the other hand, his current endeavours are rather interesting to me, as I'm neither American or a member of any military. It's great that he's doing something so impactful though and I eagerly look forward to only briefly and occasionally thinking about Gary Sinise and whatever thing he might be doing or not doing at a given time.", "From a Missourian, thank you sir.", "We love you Gary!! Run for president or something will ya?", "Hey Gary, I've met you back in 2001 in Simi Valley at a friend's house, I was a kid and from abroad. At the time I did not know who you where 🤣. You were kind to everyone that day and down to earth from what I recall ! Epic souvenir for the young traveler I was and my introduction to California and its possibilities.", "As a vet with PTSD and 100% disabled I can't tell you how much it means when people take notice of all the pain and suffering going on. There are millions all over the globe with physical and mental damage. It's hard to get help and most of the times it's hard to reach out to get help. We are all one big company and we are not stronger than the weakest link. Thank you so much for helping.", "Gary, you have no empathy whatsoever with the innocents of the world.\n\n[US Global War on Terror Has Displaced Up to 59 Million People](https://www.voanews.com/a/usa_report-us-global-war-terror-has-displaced-59-million-people/6195626.html)\n\nYou're cheering for the very people who are committing this genocide, torture, rape and displacement.", "\"The Council of the Kind\"", "Ah, I loved him in Rampart.", "If you ain’t for me, you ain’t black", "I just can't see how you can be a 'moderate' republican given their last 40 years of politics. Actively punishing the poor is in their DNA.", "Have you heard of rampart?", "And on the AMA about rampart too.", "Hey Gary, I really don't give a shit about whatever you're doing, but you're welcome.\n\nIt's nice to be appreciated.", "I would agree that those aren’t good, I disagree that it makes you a bad person. Gary is a very kind and good person, if a bit misled. His impact on the world is certainly a net positive considering all he’s done for veterans.", "Gary does the gods work.", "Good job Gary!", "Just cause you don't like the republicans, doesn't mean you have to like Biden.", "There are no moderate Republicans.\n\nThey disowned Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger for having the audacity to speak out against Trump's blatantly anti-democratic rhetoric. In other words, refusing to either try and steal an election, or refusal of those efforts to steal an election in favor of only one candidate got them blacklisted. They didn't care about the Republicans who won down ballot. Apparently, it was just the presidential box that was fraudulent because their guy lost. They openly chose their party over their country and democracy. Anyone who supports the Republican party is actively anti-democracy.\n\nThe current Republican party is the party of Trump, aka the party of discarding democratic elections when they hurt your feelings. Not only are they opposed to elections they lose, they're actively rigging the game. They're intentionally and knowingly trying to implement minority rule.", "T. Hanks", "Can we limit the questions to Rampart, please?", "The same portion of Republicans who seem to hold absolutely zero sway in the modern party. \n\nWho simply hold their tongues and give implicit support to the rabid right wing as long as it opposes the dems.\n\nThey aren't moderates, they are enablers.", "You're breathtaking", "Hey Gary, you're pretty damn allright.", "Dude, you're awesome", "Hi Gary,\n\nJust want to say thanks for playing for veterans overseas, I saw you in Kuwait back in 2011 and it was quite a good show and fond memory. Not sure if you remember but your guitarist had a string break during the solo in Dont Stop Believin'--I still feel bad for him 10 years later!\n\nAnyways, thanks again for all that you do. You seem to be one of those good people that the world needs more of. Keep on keeping on! Thanks!", "They’re not that rare lol", "I said this on one of his Facebook posts but it bears repeating, also I think I could have said it better; Gary has become a role model for those of us doing veterans advocacy work. My dream is to have my own nonprofit off the ground in 5-10 years, hoping that I can make a fraction of the impact Gary and his organizations have made in the lives of veterans. The sad reality is, we need more like him, too many more.", "You are correct. I was however pointing out, that democrats are just as racist as this guy thinks republicans are. They pander for peoples votes. They think black people are too dumb to drive a car and get an id. They’re just as much part of the problem.", "That there is solid wholesome.", "That’s a question mankind has never been able to answer.", "Give me back my son Gary.", "Lt Dan gave me the feels, probably one of the best movies ever made", "Mate I don't expect a reply as an aussie coming late to the party on this thread lol, but thankyou for everything you do. As a kid I watched forrest gump and I was so surprised when I saw another video of you at an awards thing and you had legs! and then I heard about everything else you do. I've never met anyone famous and this is as close as I'll ever get I reckon - so thanks mate, all the way from Australia.", "God bless you too, Gary. \n\nLieutenant Dan, ICE CREAM!", "He missed another post too. Saw a few days ago, one of the posts about who you suspect is the nicest celebrity (or something similar). His name came up a good few times.", "what in the hell is going on in here.", "Yes, think exactly how you are told to think about the political and ideological adversaries of your betters. Do NOT think about how their difderences boil down to a slight difference of opinion on the role and scope of government in society. Good soldiers follow orders after all. We wouldn't want any of that out of the box \"thinking\" to disrupt blind adherence to doctrine and stereotypes.", "Go Braves!", "cum", "In a world with so much hate and frustration being expressed by so many, it's very refreshing to be reminded that people like Gary Sinise exist, someone who genuinely cares.\n\nWe need more care in the world people! To care for each other, to put the care back in healthcare, for institutions to stop being about the numbers and care about the person on the other end. To let go of our own desires for a moment and put ourselves in someone else's shoes.\n\nFrom Ireland to Gary, you are a treasure.", "More like Gary Pinise, am I right?", "D. Anke", "What a smart response! Genius! 🙄", "Definitely not your whore mom though.", "mensch", "someone give this specimen gold.", "You were my favourite Stuart Redman I love your work bro.", "That intro is still the best I’ve ever seen.", "Lmfao “bu bu bu both sides guize!”", "me every time I try to pass the joint to my bf", "GARY!", "“Hey Gar…it’s Art. I won’t be coming in today…”", "This doesn't seem very indifferent", "Just got a legendary and some buffs but low pick rate otherwise", "All modern politicians punish the poor fam. That's not exclusive to Republicans", "There are most certainly moderate Republicans. They're called Democrats.", "Gary, the only problem I have with you is NOT ENOUGH!!! \n\nWhat do we need?\n\nMore Gary Sinise! \n\nWhen do we need it?\n\nNow!", "Sir, this is a Wendy's.", "Huh, I'd never heard that euphemism before.", "I worked with the lieutenant dan band once for a corporate fund raiser at a truck company in chicagoland. Very nice dude.", "I don't think you needed the word modern", "tom hanks is better", "As a disabled veteran knowing you are out there helping my brothers and sisters puts me at ease. The VA barely does anything for us but you, you deserve the presidential medal of freedom for what you have done for the veteran community.", "When is \"Half Day Road\" getting back together?", "Thank you Gary for your brilliant work on Forrest Gump. I always cry when I remember how good friends both became and how Dan was so aware and wholesome for his bro. I aim to be always like that.\n\nThank you", "I forgive you for CSI, Gary.", "B. itte", "T..talk about the rabbits George!", "Hey Gary! You should be extremely proud of the generous, and thoughtful human you are: Especially for veterans. Thank you. \n\n\nGary Sinise Every day, the Gary Sinise Foundation is serving America's defenders, veterans, first reponders, their families and those in need.\"", "Fun fact, Gary has been in 3 movies with Tom Hanks and they are all terrific!!", "But you have no legs? 😅, happy holidays!", "Yeah I don't know who he is and I sure didn't support him.", "Chill moderates always go on Ben Shapiro's show", "Quelqu’un a dit “bite?”", "You don’t know who he is? Are you 12 or have you lived in a cave your entire life?", "No it's not, but the level of corruption as well as general disdain towards minorities and the poor is inarguably greater in the Republican party.", "Being right-wing shows a significant lack of care for others and an individualist attitude. Regardless of how you paint it, that is literally what the right-wing is. You can help the symptoms like this guy is but fundamentally the disease is the problem. It's a moral issue.", "Forrest Gump and Apollo 13 both came out about 25 years ago.", "He was the right man in the right place, even if it was the simulator.", "As someone in the UK I was very confused about the Vets thing. What is this guy doing for the Veteran community. Then I got that it's Vets as in military veterans. Okay keep up the good work whatever it is your doing.", "At?", "I missed the viral video. Love Gary Sinese, tho! He seems really cool and down to earth! Love his movies, too!", "No more celebrities, please. Maybe a cabinet member for the department of veterans affairs, tops! 😂", "It’s the ‘in the closet’ club?", "Thanks for all that you do for my brothers in arms!", "My EverQuest character is named after you from forest gump", "Who is this?", "Gary thank you for all you do. The world needs more leaders like you.", "Thanks to other comments, I've figured it out. I've seen Forrest Gump and apparently he played Lt. Dan. \n\nHe's raising money for former US Govt employees, except not the postal service because they don't kill people usually.", "No more jerk celebrities? Meet ya halfway?", "You are a fantastic human Mr. Sinise. The world needs more of people like you. Ever thought of being cloned? ;-)", "Gary you are the GOAT.", "Ehhhh only if they have actually been involved in something sort of political before hand. The founding fathers didn’t intend for politician to be a full-time job, but that’s what they’ve made it into. That’s why they get so many breaks thru the year. THEY are the ultimate ‘welfare queens’.", "OMFG LIEUTENANT DAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!", "Ashton sold out to Wework.", "Fxcking love Gary sinise", "Steve Carell while you’re at it", "Oh ok there it is….", "[Gary is a killer bassist.](https://youtu.be/fJBGvZckrcM?t=107)", "Nah, surely a couple teenage Redditors can solve it in a Gary Sinese thread if they just think about it real hard.", "I can offer nothing more than sincere gratitude for what you do for veterans. I can offer that if you are ever in PEI Canada you can stop in for a beer and a falconry experience. I’m spending the day with veterans at the legion tomorrow with a few falcons, and good conversation.", "Did he tip square, or hollywood tip?", "Excuse me but Tom Hanks is president of the club", "I missed the last one, but thanks for hanging with me and some other guys that morning at Walter Reed way back in 2003 around the holidays! You were one of the few that I felt like you actually did care about our well being and it meant the world to me! Thank you for everything that you do for us veterans!", "Brendan Fraser", "He did put himself in his shoes. And then like a lot of vets, he lost those shoes.", "Kept scrolling to find this. Bless you", "Love that guy.", "Goddammit, you're welcome, lieutenant Dan", "Otm Shank", "And we are grateful for you Gary! Love everything you do for our armed forces and how you use your position to bring notoriety to an issue that desperately needs attention.", "His foundation is building a home for my brother. It will allow him to live his life comfortably with his family. We take for granted what we are capable of doing in normal circumstances. Love what he does.", "You were one of my favorite callers on Frasier lol 👍", "You are doing great work!", "Thank you Gary!", "YEAAAAAAAAAAAAH GARY SINISE BABYYYYYY", "I used to live in Carlsbad and was floored your band lived 20 miles away! Always been a big fan, you are rad.", "Oh, I like this. Maybe guest appearances like Henry Winkler and Chris Pratt.", "How can you not love Gary Sinise?", "Lieutenant Dan, Ice cream!", "They have made themselves kings nay gods. The whole upper sect. Its the reason I didn't pay attention to politics for a long time. Many people I know also did the same and now look. Horrible state of affairs.", "Thank you for everything you've done.", "Well, Intra, that's just fucking ridiculous.", "How do you do, fellow kids?", "We like you too Lt Dan", "you're welcome", "Titanium alloy. It's what they use on the space shuttle.", "Impostor!", ">You put yourself in a vet's shoes.\n\nI'm not sure this was the best word choice.", "Lol the idolatry here is sickening. Thanks for the reprieve.", "Love the work you do with Operation Welcome Home. I used to work for Petar in Illinois and almost got to drive for one of the homecomings for a serviceman.", "You Rock. As a Veteran, I appreciate all you do!", "Lest we forget Of Mice and Men and The Stand", "Aw, yeah. I kinda fit that category. It comes with age I guess. It's impossible to not get older.", "This guy is so awesome! I love what he does for our military, and his acting is outstanding.", "Yeah. Quite a wild ride.", "What I appreciate about Gary Sinise is the same thing that I do about Guy Fieri. Their charity work is not an advertisement for their celebrity status.", "Idk if they want to suck his fat dong but 7 paragraphs about Gary Sinise doesn't really show indifference", "Source?", "Check out the recent long form YouTube interview (not Jocko) with DJ Shipley. I think there is a link on his GBRS page. \n\nIt is absolutely can’t turn away listening.", "Hahahaha, I'm going to do this with my wife.", "I listened to you interview on the Jocko podcast and didn’t realize you had such a wild story to share!\n\nDo you think you could do what you and your co-founders did for the stage company today?", "Hey Gary are you still at Cracker Barrel", "How do you donate to this charity? Does somebody have a link?", "Sinse U been gone Hahua FUCK YOU", "Not Stefan Karl?", "Nice Dude", "I see Gary Sinise. I upvote. No need for video.", "Gary Sinise is what people need right now.", "Is today Jimmy Shaker day?", "Every action taken by the Trump Administration between the years 2017-2021.", "Yeah, it seems they're simply here to be a cunt.", "Former actors having to raise money for wounded veterans, because the government won't take care of them before sending more kids off to get wounded?", "That's the spirit! Make it about you,\n after all you deserve it with all the important work you do.", "I know, why are we in here blowing a trump supporter? Yeah fuck democracy, but let's take care of the vets", "You’re the real MVP Gary, thanks for being you.", "Because most Americans drank the purple Kool aid on military idolatry long ago. We're indoctrinated into supporting the troops beginning extremely early on. Most people don't apply critical thinking and blindly support an organization that explicitly said they'd go to war over any of their members being tried for war crimes.\n\n\nLike... How do you even begin to defend, much less idolize such scumbaggery?", "Currently being gas-lighted by my boss, so it feels good to get 15 seconds of appreciation from a complete stranger right now!", "G. Racias", "Legend.", "Gary penise", "Hey Gary!\n\nWho was your favorite PA and why was int Pete from the second season of criminal minds beyond borders?", "Look up “40% of police” right now and report back with your findings", "You were the man in Of Mice and Men", "ok thanks, i have just done that. so this is relating to a couple of reports from 30 years ago that was done on a handful of police departments in America. \nI don't know about you, but that doesn't seem like some credible, relevant data I'd be relying on. But you do you.\n\nAlso, regardless of if you put credence into that report or not, it doesn't really go anywhere in rebuking my comment about 'pro police' being nothing to do with supporting the idiots in the police force who do abuse their power etc", "What about the Kind Kouncil Kollective?", "Gary, you are a national treasure. As a vet, I want to say thank you for all you do.", "The point I’m trying to make is the saying goes “a couple of bad apples spoils the bunch”. You see a bad cop news story on TV only to find out later the cop received a paid suspension or transferred to a new station as punishment. If you, as a police officer, cover for a fellow officer, turn a blind eye while your department is protecting said officer, etc, you are also a bad cop. And that’s pretty much the name of the game across the board. They might not all be out there indiscriminately beating and killing people, but they all will sure as shit protect the ones that do. Also, just because a study was conducted 30 years ago doesn’t make it any less relevant. One of the studies was performed by Temple University, and it wasn’t a “couple of departments”. Its called a random sample size, every study meant to represent an entire population relies on a sample size of that population. It doesn’t make the data any less credible. But if you investigate that study further, it seems that even 40% might be an underestimate of the real number because the data is self reported. So its likely actually a lot worse. National average for families experiencing DA is 10%. Among police, its 4x the national average. They’re bad.", "I mean, Iraq and Afghanistan, the two wars Gary put this together for, were pretty fucking pointless and avoidable. But nah, who could have seen that coming. A certain war in a southeast Asian country totally never happened.", "Chris Pratt seems naturally kind at heart, but I think some of his religious-influenced beliefs make him less kind than he otherwise would be? Not sure.", "That's racias!", "Ok so I should have asked “are you 22?”\n\nThanks for reminding me how old I actually am☠️", "When you don’t pay attention, you’re complicitin their winning. We’re basically paying the price for 20+ years of voters bring asleep at the wheel.", "GARRRY SINISEEE BABYYYY YEAAHHH", "Thanks Gary. Looking forward to better times bro.", "Gary is a wonderful actor... and human being.", "I'm late to the party of Gary Love... but also know that there is yet another fan of yours, in me.\n\nWell he's not IN me! He IS me!\n\nOtherwise that would be gay, not Gary.\n\n---\n\nEdit: What was really funny is that you somehow came up in my thoughts very recently, and then I see this AMA... Thought that was interesting.", "Hmm.\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Sinise\n\n>Although a lifelong supporter of the Republican Party, Sinise refused to endorse or vote for Donald Trump in the 2016 presidential election, and also criticized Trump after the then-candidate questioned McCain's status as a war hero because he was captured as a prisoner of war.", "Didn’t this loser support Trump stealing thousands of little kids and torturing them?", "Hope that's true. I remember him giving trump shit for the McCain stuff, but a lot of people gave him shit for that and voted for him anyway", "buenos cuadros", "From a double Purple Heart recipient: Thank you for what you do for Veterans!!!", "I have no fucking clue who you are", "It's Lieutenant Dan!!", "When Sen. Al Gore created his INternets he equipped them with a Google so you could look up things like \"Gary Sinese\", and he even wrote a Wikipedia page for Gary Sinese so you could read about his work and career.", "Also he has been a huge arts guy in general, in particular at Steppenwolf in Chicago.", "no. he aint pure like Keanu", "he's kind of a dick tbh", "Amazing actor. Always loved him.", "Thank you Gary you are setting a great example", "u/GarySiniseOfficial thank you for everything you have done for veterans.\n\nFrom a danish vet", "No, he's supporting veterans, who were themselves pawns being played in a rich people's game. \n\nNow stop supporting wars with your job and taxes, you hypocrite!", "Who pissed in your cereal?", "Man, the amount of work you do for veterans is astonishing. I see too many of my brothers/sisters in arms struggling, yet you find a way to still make things better for those who have lost everything. You’re a terrific guy Gary and I would enjoy a beer with you one day. Cheers brother!", "I'd still shit on him for supporting Bush.\n\nThat said, as much as I'm anti-Republican, anti-warhawk, and anti-military-industrial-complex, I can admire championing the improved treatment of wounded vets as a noble goal. Many of those wounded servicemen were hoodwinked into signing up, and had no idea what they were really fighting for (many of them still don't). The least that a country can do after misleading and coercing young people into life or death situations across the globe all in service to the mighty petro-missile-dollar is take care of their damaged bodies after they return home.", "But...but, he's helping the wrong people!\n\n/s", "It's Lieutenant Dan!", "And Woody Harrelson!", "Only if he can shower though", "This guy gets it. There are plenty of people doing good work who aren’t also fundamentally immoral and supporting the party of oppression. I wish redditors would work a little harder to find a worthy idol rather than jumping on the bandwagon and falling over themselves to get on this guy’s dick. It’s embarrassing to watch grown people act like Justin Bieber fangirls because they’re too myopic to see beyond the reddit meme of loving Gary Sinise. Hurr durr my Lieutenant Dannn", "I'm so excited that Gary Sinise just talked to me!! What an awesome guy!\n\n&#x200B;\n\nP.S. Don't ruin my moment, Reddit...", "Mr. Sinese, i went to a military school this spring and your organization graciously gave us a celebratory meal for our class after months of training. I didn't get a chance to thank you, so I just wanted to offer my thanks. Also, if she is still at your foundation, please say hi to Onay for me (the tall Minnesotan) she was wonderful.", "Lol! That's probably legitimately their line of thinking too and that's just sad, and kind of scary.", "> Even if the VA or the \"people up top\" don't care and are cool with using the brave men and women of our armed forces as pawns in geopolitical games.\n\nLulz. The VA using them as pawns? The VA doesn't fund itself, man. Congress funds it. The clinical staff at the VA by and large do their best with the resources that Congress sends them. The VHA treats the Veterans that fall within eligibility criteria that are specified by statute for service-related and non-service-related conditions. The VBA evaluates and provides service-connected disability payments for conditions recognized to be service-connectable by statute. The NCA buries who Congress says it can bury and makes sure the grass stays cut.\n\nAnd, as regards the healthcare, guess what?\n\n[VA-care-utilizing Veterans are as or more satisfied with their healthcare than civilians are with theirs](https://patientengagementhit.com/news/va-ranks-as-well-as-civilian-orgs-in-quality-patient-satisfaction)\n\n[The care quality is roundly found to be high or higher on many standard healthcare quality outcome metrics](https://www.rand.org/news/press/2018/04/26.html)\n\n[Most reviews find it to be as or more cost-effective than private sector care](https://www.cbo.gov/publication/49763)\n\nBut a lot of people and entities in our country seem to want to convince you that it's a giant disaster torture machine and we must privatize, privatize, privatize to rescue its poor victims. Any ideas about what their interest might be in trying to convince you of that?", "Lieutenant Dan", "He thanks the people who viral him on Reddit.", "Lol I didn't realize Gary Sinise was actually a big name, I just thought he was famous on Yahoo answers.\n\nMy headcanon was that some high-profile yahoo answers user sent it out with a bang by asking an absolutely pointless question lmao", "Is your suits program with Jos a bank ever coming back?", "Mr Sinise, thank you for all you do for us. We love you and God bless!", "Lieutenant Dan!!!! \n\n“She tastes like cigarettes….”", "shrugs shoulders\n\nMeh. \n\n\n\n(I think you’re doing it wrong)", "You’re the best George Milton ever and my students LOVE the movie after reading the book. In tears. Every. Time. Ps, is there a way for me to get a signed dvd or something from you?", "Just to be clear, many non-Americans have love for American veterans too.\n\nRespect all round", "He's just a good man.", "Loved you in Tommy Boy.", "Thank you Gary for setting a great example of what people can do with their platform. \n\nI missed you in Mission:Space.", "Yeah Trump was terrible. That's not a source though? Obama bombed the hell out of brown people. The Flint water crisis never really ended. Biden doubled Trumps police budget. Are you sure only one side fucks over people of color?", "Hey I will, thanks!", "same here. Everytime I see him on TV, my brain says, \"hey. it's East Texas!\"", "Nick?", "Imagine only being capable of seeing the bad in people...", "Right? 😂", "Imagine being ok with torturing little kids.", "Lieutenant Dan, ice cream…", "I like Michael Jackson's \"Thriller\" too. Do you think that implies I'm ok with molesting kids?\n\nThink about it hard.", "If MJ was a leader in government and you supported his policy of molested kids yes.. you would be ok with it.", "But he isn't a leader in government, and neither is Gary Sinise. The implication here is that you can like what he is doing for charity, yet look down on his political choices.\n\nYou know I'm ok with people failing at basic inference. What really grinds my gears is people who are unwilling to accept the possibility that they had a lapse. Flat-earthers do the same thing.", "Awesome, it's great to see someone make such a difference. Seeing someone use an iconic role to springboard a noble cause is what makes me believe in humanity.", "We love you Gary Sinise! We want to see you in more new movies! If you are in a movie we know it’s going to be great!", "What a gem. Thanks for being an awesome guy Gary.", "You do God’s work, Gary. We appreciate you.", "This repub trash? Nah.", "Depends on if he was your prom date or not.", "i was gonna say, just from the thumbnail he looks really familiar like I'd seen him in movies, but couldn't place him.", "Yeah voting for Bush was a great way to fuck up more vets", "We need a whole bunch more of men like him, we are fortunate he has the time to read all of our post!!even the good ones.", "Adam?", "Just because this is a Wendy’s, doesn’t mean I have to like McDonald’s", "Lmfao “ but but my sidez different “ hahahaa", "You know he does tons of work to stop child sex trafficking, right?", "I thought your whole point was that they boil down to the same thing...", "[das racias](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc__3nsfxwA)", "Some people say a cucumber tastes better pickled", "You should seek professional help", "You rock brother.", "U got it Lt. Dan!", "But you ain’t got no support Lieutenant Dan", "Gotta always love Gary", "Lt. Dan!!", "What's democrats like to hide is the fact that Bill Clinton a, Democrat signed the 1994 Crime Bill (which was drafted by another Democrat) which expanded the Justice system and massively increased incarceration against blacks.", "They’re top notch at virtue signaling though. It makes the others feel comfy.", "Others say life is like a box o' choc-a-lettes", "So kind, he signs his name T.Hanks", ">I believe we can never do enough to show gratitude and appreciation\n\nIf we as a society actually wanted to show our gratitude, the first step is abolishing the entire concept of an 'enlistment'. That contract is absolutely unconscionable and in any other aspect of our society would be completely unenforceable.\n\nAn 18 year old kid has no clue what they're signing up for when they enlist, and the government(not just the US government either) have been using that ignorance to essentially trick kids into years of indentured servitude where once they have you they have you.\n\nThey call it a 'volunteer service', but its a 'volunteer once' service. After that they have you by the balls and, as history shows, when you have a group of employees who literally literally can not quit, the abuse potential is astronomical. Imagine if you worked at McDonalds, and you had a legal issue with McDonalds management, and the only legal recourse available to you was... A court composed of McDonalds managers. Imagine if your McDonalds manager could arbitrarily, and without any sort of legal recourse at all, imprison you and steal your money for breaking a rule he made up. Imagine if your McDonalds manager could force you to move where he wanted you to move, force you to get medical procedures against your will.\n\nWe very rightly outlawed Indentured Servitude for a reason.\n\nThis type of shit, and so much more, is why vets have issues to begin with. I appreciate your work, but at the same time, you're also only applying a band-aid, and not addressing the root cause, and if I had one criticism of your work to extend, I would say that it feels at times that you're almost glorifying the status of veterans rather than being critical of the legal situation that got them where they are in the first place. As you say here:\n\n>It’s an honor to support those who sacrifice so much.\n\nThey never should have been asked to make that sacrifice in the first place. \n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nPS: I just gotta give you a shout out for Imposter. Great movie and totally underrated.", "yeah but he’s just not as pure as Keanu in general. He’s done dirty shit in relationships and stuff. im just saying he doesn’t deserve Keanu status", "Nice", "Gary I just what to join everyone and say your tha man!", "The Dems are far far from perfect, but you want me to provide you with a singular source that will validate my point on a vast array of issues about why the republicans are a more corrupt and morally bankrupt party than the democrats? That's obviously not possible. Could I provide an array of sources to validate my point? Yes. Can I be bothered for one Reddit comment? No.", "You're genuine good. Remind me of my father.", "Gary Penise", "I think his work on helping find victims of sex slavery outweighs that though. Over 5000 people have been saved as a result.", "At cracker barrel. Anyone want anything?", "It's Lieutenant Dan!", "Ah, it keeps him employed as a disabled vet supporter 😬", "You're a prince among men, Mr. Sinise", "Yeah. Sorry.", "Said it before, and I'll say it again. \n\n\"Lt. Dan is a god damn saint.\"", "😊", "You’re both deluded and have contributed zero to this comment section.", "Still following this thread two days later? 🤡 And you’ve contributed so much by being the 10,000th person in line to suck Gary’s dick and say the exact same thing as every other commenter 👍🏼", "Classy.", "Sheep.", "Also lol, your comment defending veterans who support trump was even more downvoted than ours. Stay mad, trumpette.", "Wow your comment history is a mess. Ironic that you would impugn my class when you’re so clearly a steaming heap of white trash. \n\n>The people trying to change gun laws aren’t on the right.\n\n>Texas legalizes permitless carry.\n\n>yfw you’re a fucking idiot", "I guess it just annoys me when people refer to Reddit as a collective as if everyone shares the same values and beliefs. I don't think he's a bad person but I apparently don't share the same values as him.\n\nIt would be like PETA thanking Facebook for supporting them. I have a Facebook account but I don't support PETA.\n\nAlso I had just woken up so that might have had something to do with the tone of my comment. Sorry for being rude.", "I met you once when I was an assistant at Marty Lickers office. Of all the actors I had an opportunity to meet while employed there you were the most polite regular guy.\n\nYou are a good person that does good works for others. There are many, including me, who really appreciate when people such as you have such a positive impact on the world.\n\nKeep doing what you are doing.", "Wow! I’ve looked up to you my entire life, it’s absolutely amazing how you stay in touch with people. Glad to see you alive and well. I still watch Impostor, Mission to Mars, Apollo 13 and Fallen Angel to this day! Your movies have always been comforting, I don’t know if it’s the nostalgia or what but you are a good soul so thank you." ]	417	videos	Hey folks, Gary Sinise here. I’m overwhelmed with gratitude by the continued support of the Reddit community. Thank you all.
https://youtu.be/GoMCIK6yTn0	/r/videos/comments/r6xqx3/i_dont_understand_why_mariah_carey_is_played/	[ "I don’t care what they say, Froggy Fresh put John Cena on the map. Dude should be getting royalties for it.", "Tight…", "He'll always be crispy cream to me. This guy was awesome.", "This guy is still making videos 🤣. Tyler Cassidy on YouTube", "A brand new box of Betty crocker fudge brownies!!!", "Refreshing lack of James in this one.", "Having to change his name really fucked this guy over. Should have changed it to Chris P Cream. He was also a couple years early to really capitalize by streaming and shit too.", "Its a Christmas song", "Looks like FPS Russia", "wait that intro. Whats that from...GRavediggaz?\n\nedit: fuck yea. I cant believe I recognized that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPGAXjwKOyk\n\nSampled from \"Buffalo Gals\"", "You gotta be lying.", "You gotta help me out, why did the poster just show an empty boxing ring? Maybe they didn't get likeness rights?", "yeye for the lazy\nhttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeX_33ZB5Ddoc5TlmObG6Dw", "I suddenly feel like going to... the adventure zone!", "isn’t", "I'm more white and lumpy than potato salad!", "His video where he repeats the N-word about 45 times didn't really help either\n\nEdit - From here on out I will not be replying to any more comments unless they answer this question: as it applies to the N-word, context only ever seems to be important when defending its use. Context never seems to matter when denouncing its use. Why do you think that is?", "For a joke song this is an absolute banger!", "Never heard it before, pretty good!!!", "This unironically slaps.", "Are you being sarcastic or actually asking for real?", "Wow, damn, forgot about Gravediggaz. Thanks", "Not only does he have legitimately good songs like, If I Ain't Got Your Heart: \nhttps://youtu.be/NkHDsfqhpdY\n\nBut he has this masterpiece: https://youtu.be/MLQ08v8gx1Y", "because this song sucks fat fucking SANTA COCK", "yeye?", "aw man that sucks. i was pleasantly surprised to see this guy, i think he was on tosh.0 or something years ago. was gunna give him a follow cuz he seemed like a chill wholesome dude. guess not.", "It does in my household", "To be fair, using the n-word as a rapper is par for the course. Maybe he should have painted his face black first.", "Why is this so good?!", "Then whys he cryin?", "'cause he just got dunked on!", "Isn't. Not \"doesn't.", "Just your average, every day, edgy white dude with a strange obsession with saying the N-word. Nothing more.", "https://i.imgur.com/0Eh6MYo.jpeg", "389 [i use this extension](https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/return-youtube-dislike/gebbhagfogifgggkldgodflihgfeippi)", ">\tTo be fair, using the n-word as a rapper is par for the course. \n\nHow do you figure that? There are many successful rappers who have never used it.", "You guys better check his wish list! \n\nHave he been a good boy, that's none of your business!", "That had nothing to do with anything, as he released that song under his own name. That song has more soul in it then anything Elvis stole.", "This has been an internet classic for years, how does it have so few views?", "ye", "Apparently he was standing in the way", "https://youtu.be/Tr6VtUCoYmk\n\nContext.\n\nInteresting comments section.", "I play this every year for Christmas. My wife hates it.", "At one point he changed his name to froggy fresh and just overdubbed that name over Krispy Kreme in some of his videos", "What if you took the lyrics to Mariah Carey's 'All I Want for Christmas is You', but filtered it through the song \"Sober' by Tool?\n\nYou'd get this awesomeness: https://youtu.be/OjigNOKF4t8", "Froggy fresh gets posted on reddit like all the damn time every single December but you just couldn't wait until December 2nd at the very least could you.", "John Xina?", "Aaaaaand this https://youtu.be/wH2umxtA_sc", "take my award and f%%$$% leave now!", "He is reading his own rap lyrics?", "He also made this gem [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPeJAbC2rOw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPeJAbC2rOw)", "That's spectacular!", "Christmas Rap is good, here's some christmas Metal.\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeYzousLJeA", "[this is my personal favorite from him. ](https://youtu.be/LBgL1JGlGAo)", "I THINK he had to reupload all his stuff due to the name changes, but I’ve done no research", "I love that the hoop is like 6 ft high.", "It's Krispy Kreme, homie!\n\nI do love his transition song, though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3UTzZv8z0Y", "Illmatic was a dope album. I wonder if John Cena has listened to it.", "Moneymaker Mike is a straight up killer", "It’s like a slice of Heaven. I could probably eat like 10 or 11.", "\"If you're listening to this song, you might think its a dis. But I actually love pit bulls cause of how much I hate kids...\"\n\nLMAO", "My hero", "It's almost like one cancels the other out. Since context is so important, why does the historical context of the word itself not matter?", "Ah yes. YouTube comment sections, where you can find high literature crafted by the most brilliant minds that human beings have to offer. No bots, and no bullshit.\n\n#HUGE /s\n\nIt's hilarious how desperately people will defend use of the word regardless of skin color, and ESPECIALLY when they try to use the bullshit \"COnteXt\" excuse while conveniently ignoring the historical context of the word itself. Corny as all hell. You can get all the upvotes from neckbearded Redditors you want, it doesn't make it cool. This guy pulled this little stunt to try to go viral and it still didn't work. \n\nI believe in the freedom of speech as well as administration of the consequences of said speech. Words have meaning, and if you're well aware of what a word means to people and you still feel compelled to use it anyway it just makes you an asshole.", "I don't think you know what \"soul\" is if you think there was any soul in that performance lmao. Goofy as hell.", "Nothing goofy about it, the song is about struggle.", "A struggle that includes being called that word. Is that concept lost on you? It's one thing if this was ancient history, but the N-word is still to this day used to degrade and dehumanize. \n\nEdit: crickets....", "These will always be the \"Cause He Just Got Dunked On!\" guys to me.\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=571BuZeeQjE", "My favorite one Give a Ni$$A a break https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tr6VtUCoYmk . People can be pissed at the word but it's good.", "This part got me too", "So was it always an act. That second video seems pretty normal. Had always heard he had a development issue or something.", "Holy shit... that was a damn good connection!", "ye", "Oh, this brings back memories.", "I feel like there's a genre of rap that encapsulates that feeling. This guy is a rapper around me. \n\nhttps://youtu.be/zWShRwxj5Eo\n\nhttps://youtu.be/BbMY7k3b8Bc", "ok, yeah 🤣", "Uhh, your welcome for the link? Have a great one.", "I lobe that he is singing that in what appears to be an old church.\n\n Also, I'm sending this to my wife later.", "I didn't thank you. \n\nI've already seen it. Y'know, I'm kinda the one who brought it up in the thread lmao. Why would I thank you for sending me a link to a video that I've obviously already seen?", "He's also the creative genius behind this masterpiece\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPeJAbC2rOwR", "this boys pupils are huge", "I have 400 houses.", "To provide your comment with context for other users. You are in a public online forum.\n\nMy welcome to you was facetious.", "How does this only have 280K views on YouTube?!", "In 2019 too? wew boi, how'd I miss this?\n\nI'm not offended, but just using that word to refer to yourself as a white guy is lame as hell, like as in embarrassing.", "That hits the spot, good find dude", "He has hands down the best song about 2020/2021. When my grandkids ask what these times were like, I'll play them this song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXDm-0OBt90", "Thank you. It feels like people are actually trying to make their grammar shittier.", "Holy shit thank you for this.", "I think this guy likes John Cena.", "> froggy fresh\n\nThis is the name i know this guy by. damn, i knew i recognized him somewhere. Should of just looked at the channel name to begin with.", "This is fantastic. And it's on Spotify! Getting added to my Christmas playlist!", "Personal favorite of mine is Whole Lotta Gang Shit: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqMvd658g7s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqMvd658g7s)\n\nSpecial mention for Boyfriend: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBgL1JGlGAo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBgL1JGlGAo)", "It literally doesn't matter what I say, you don't give a shit about cultural propriety. You don't care that the word is still to this day used to dehumanize.", "Some of the comments are hysterical.", "I didn't ask you why you sent the link. I asked you why I would thank you. Are you ok?\n\nAgain, as it applies to the N-word, context only ever seems to be important when defending its use. Context never seems to matter when denouncing its use. Why do you think that is?", "I wanted to provide other reddit users with context.\n\nNow I'm enjoying our lovely conversation. It is positive and upbeat in all the right aways. I was going to make myself a burrito now. Do you want one?", "x-mas classic <3 thank you", "I didn't ask you why you sent the link. I asked you why I would thank you. Are you ok?\n\nYeah I figured you would cowardly avoid answering the question lmao", "That's one yes-burrito and one no-burrito.\n\nCan I interest you in a chalupa instead? I use real lard for the frying and slow-cooked the pork with Chipotles and adobo sauce. I'd practically be offended if you declined!", "Certified troll confirmed, you get copypasta from here on out (☞ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)☞", "Now all facetiousness aside, I hope you have a good rest of your day and forget all about me.", "(☞ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)☞", "please keep this going, lmao", "This idiot is an antivax clown and it’s not part of his act", "Best thing I found on Reddit for this Xmas. Thanks for this!", "Sweet Dee is Dating a Retarded Person", "I vote to replace Mariah with King Diamond: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5a5fHMlb4V0", "Or this (serious song):\n\nhttps://youtu.be/7CJFgKZB5XE", "Gotta post the OG https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XArx0ASwyDc", "Not allowed to touch butts until you graduate from school!", "His flow is soo bad though", "My silence is agreeing to disagree. We clearly come from two different environments. You act as if he were promoting racism, which couldn't be further from the truth.", "No one can be pissed at that, it’s too good.", "Oh look, he’s broken lmao", "Homie aged 10 years between those two videos… both are bangers tho. I was thinking maybe he was from the farmington by me… guess I’ll have to let everyone know I’m the king around here with a rap video.", "Another high quality Christmas song from Tyler Cassidy is \"Pregnant Virgin\".", "[He's amazing](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBgL1JGlGAo)", "“Look who’s been saving up his passes”", "Because whatever that is I just watched for 25 seconds and turned off was REALLY bad.", "That stare…", "I never said he was promoting racism. Instead of making silent assumptions you could just try communicating. Do you not acknowledge that the very struggle you speak of includes being dehumanized and belittled by the use of the N-word?", "I know right, the simple question had him tweaking", "If I Ain't Got Your Heart is such a beautiful love song, my wife loves it.", "Yes", "Yes", "You sounded like a broken record lol. The dude was definitely just fucking with you by the end of it", "Absolutely, because he had nothing of substance to respond with. It's so much easier for him to be a troll than it is for him to acknowledge he's found himself in a logical quandary.", "I think you mean masterpieces:\n[Amber Guyger](https://youtu.be/XrChTA88c-0) and [Chris Watts](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZijVdAp3PVA) are both fucking heartbreaking", "Exactly. That's exactly* what he did.\n\nIn the song, they're not humans. They're ni$$@s.\n\nI'm glad you're finally starting to understand", "B a n g e r", "This version of the Adventure Zone Balance theme sure takes things in an unexpected direction", "I always assumed it was an act, but was never sure.\n\nI think its an act because he says things like \"ill light your farts on fire with my rhyyyymes\" and \"I fought two lions and won, and I don't even carry a gun\" (he says that line while holding a gun). It seems like he's just goofing around to make people laugh but I could be wrong", "What if he didn’t take the conversation as seriously as you did? I think that’s the case. He just didn’t care and was posting a link then you got offended by the n word lol", "holy shit he is really good! i had no idea", "You suck for that. I actually listened to those. He should have stuck with his original theme. Why James cryin’?!?!", "I have hundreds of years of evidence that nobody gives a shit about how we feel. I'm well aware that nothing we say or do will ever make anyone care about how we feel.", "Context only doesn't matter when denouncing its use when the people who denounce its use completely are too fucking stupid and emotional to understand what context is.", "Ah yes, so emoooooootional. Only stupid people get emotional about the use of dehumanizing rhetoric /s\n\n>Context doesn't matter when denouncing its use \n\nThanks for your honesty though", "I forgot all about froggy fresh I have a friend that's in one of his first music videos.", "You seemed pretty POed lol the dude was so nonchalant about it haha", "Love this one more https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPCMRu95qag", "lOl hAHA He’s sO CoOl aMiRiTe", "He's referring to himself, not black people. If you grow up in the hood and you're white it doesn't matter. You'd say the word all day. It's part of common vernacular. I grew up in East Oakland. If you want more context go watch the [channel 5 video about the Hoff twins](https://youtu.be/Pfu08ULFK88)", "LMFAO hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha", "Lmfao we can see that you fundamentally edited the comment after I'd already responded", "I don’t think it’s that he’s cool. It’s how you reacted that made him look a lot cooler than he is lmao. He’s messing with you by the end of the conversation and you’re still very serious about whatever you’re talking about", "I guess if you never met your grandfather because he was tied up to a tree and not hung, but castrated and left to bleed out for the crime of being outside after dusk you might not find this shit so fucking light-hearted either.\n\nDo you think he cared if they said it with the -ger or the -ga?\n\nIt seriously irks me when people act like this shit is ancient history when my parents literally got bags of feces thrown at them while integrating public schools.", "Yeah I don’t think anyone should use the n word. Don’t know why people want to keep that hateful word alive since it’s a reminder of such evil times.", "?", "Yes I corrected it so someone as stupid as you couldn't misconstrue it. So thanks for that.", "Misconstrue it? There was absolutely nothing to misconstrue, either you made a mistake and didn't write what you meant to write or you meant it as it was written. Your ad hominems aren't doing you any favors among folks with two+ neurons to rub together.", "Bingo", "I’ve tried to stop the blacks from saying it but they just get hypocritical. Do they not know they’re hurting their own people?", "Why do you feel yourself to be in a position to stop anyone from saying it? I never made the argument that *anyone, regardless of skin color should stop saying it. I'm all about freedom of speech. I'm also about holding people accountable and administration of consequences. Say whatever you want, just be very fucking aware of how you will be perceived by the world. \n\n\nThis all started by simply saying that the N-word video didn't help his chances of becoming famous.", "I'm still waiting for 90s horror rap to make a comeback.", "Oh wait you’re not trying to stop people from saying the n word?", "https://reddit.com/r/videos/comments/r6xqx3/_/hmxrjpo/?context=1\n\nNope. Basically, words have meaning, and if you're well aware of what a word means to people and you still feel compelled to use it anyway it just makes you an asshole. I'm just letting people know that using it is a dick move and you should be prepared for society to react in turn.", "So everyone using the n word is an asshole?", "Pretty much. What's your angle here?", "Just trying to learn how to approach people who use the n word. Everyone in rap is an asshole? Damn that’s a lot of people lol", "Don’t know why people want to keep that hateful word alive since it’s a reminder of such evil times.\n\nPlot twist: not every rapper uses the N-word. Hyperbolic rhetoric isn't conducive to communication in this text-only medium.", "Yeah crazy how popular it is. Idiots use the n word cause they don’t know how to use actual words. Glad we are on the same page though. Good day!\n\nMost rappers my bad!", ">\tIdiots use the n word cause they don’t know how to use actual words.\n\nNo, we are not on the same page here. That is an idiotic thing to say. Use of the N-word and an expanded vocabulary are not mutually exclusive.\n\nGood day!", "Using the n word is an idiotic thing to say. That’s not a hot take my guy. \n\nGood day!", "It has nothing to do with intelligence. Using it doesn't make you an idiot, it makes you an asshole. \n\nI'm not your guy. I'm a woman. \n\nI SAID GOOD DAY!\n\nMute", "My guy is a phrase to use like saying “you guys”. Gender neutral. \n\nPeople who use the n word are idiots. Enough said. \n\nGOOD DAY TO YOU SIR \n\nDeafen", "Not much need anymore and Christmas. : D", "\"Ain't no one fucking with me.\" \n\n\"Farmington Hills consistently ranks as one of the safest cities in the United States as well as in the state of Michigan.\" - Wikipedia", "Well I know what I'm playing on the PA when I drive Santa around on the fire truck. I hope you're happy.", "yes, it was a character", "I don't think they'll ever match that 94 albums hype. It was flawless.", "Bless your heart for sharing some Krispy Kreme", "Lol you know what I know another rapper from around here that also fits into that genre a bit.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/ZVUyyHYkBHk", "Bingo! I'm definitely making you a chalupa.", "cus he's not supporting municipal code 38 double d like mariah is", "> using that word to refer to yourself as a white guy \n\nidk if thats what he was doing or not. i thought he was doing it as more of a story telling thing, like from the perspective of a disenfranchised black american\n\n https://genius.com/Tyler-cassidy-give-a-ni-a-a-break-lyrics", ">Cause there's millions of slaves on this ship and a few men who steer\n\n>And they'll find a way to keep us separated by fear\n\nGod damn", "\"He used all his passes at once\", is my favorite. Though, looks like the comment section is handing out more passes so he's stocked now lol.", "Hahaha, love that guy. \"Dem Pants\" is probably my favorite: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZT8Xdes0Sg", "I don't know if it helps or matters, but I don't think the original person who posted the link was arguing that context matters in the manner that the word was used but trying to offer a link for people who may be confused about what you were referring to so he provided context. I imagine he replied to your comment specifically so the link was there for anyone that read yours.\n\nI actually appreciate the context provided because I normally like this content creator and this leaves me kinda conflicted about how I feel seeing their content.", "He’s pretty fucking good.", "Isn’t", "[Bout to burn some calories on my dick](https://youtu.be/jPeJAbC2rOw)", "One of my favorite Xmas songs of all time", "The link is to a fake knockoff account impersonating the original song. They added an 's' to the account name. Maybe taking advantage of YouTube removing the dislike button.\n\nOriginal: https://youtu.be/4feIwig2AtA", "Thanks for reposting this gem", "John Xena, Warrior Queen YIYIYIYIYIYIYIYOU CANT SEE ME 🎺🎺🎺🎺", "That masterpiece sounds like closing time by Tom waits except on mdma instead of booze.", "*yawn", "Hey I don't think this is the original\n\nThis is: https://youtu.be/4feIwig2AtA", "Rap is not really pop[ular] music while Carey's song is", "People without fully developed senses of humor always view people with them as being \"weird\" or \"actually retarded\". Sad really.", "I thought the same thing...", "This song is dogshit, thats why", "Its awful." ]	189	videos	I don’t understand why Mariah Carey is played nonstop this time of year while this masterpiece doesn’t.
https://youtu.be/0MKO77WAmtE	/r/videos/comments/r6xusm/i_left_gatorade_i_mixed_up_in_the_minifridge/	[ "What do you mean mixed up? The powder stuff?", "The water was [supercooled](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercooling) and when you agitate it it flash freezes.", "ye", "Bill Nye the Gatorade Guy" ]	4	videos	I left gatorade i mixed up in the minifridge overnight. this is what happened when i took the first sip.
https://youtu.be/sj6JdXvsWYM	/r/videos/comments/r6yt8y/russell_brand_shows_msnbc_hosts_how_someone/	[ "That was painful to watch.", "I hate Morning Joe so much, ugh", "I used to absolutely despise Russell Brand but i have to admit, he has definitely grown on me. His podcast/ youtube channel is surprisingly good and he is happy to call out hypocrisy on all sides. Sometimes he descends into gibberish and sounds like a walking thesaurus though which can be annoying", "Same here. Originally thought he was an annoying twat, but there’s actually a lot of depth to him.", "I disagree, but maybe it's because sometimes I find cringe hilarious.", "This is a pretty good example of how to stand up for yourself against people making swipes at you.", "I've seen this before, I'm watching it again, and I enjoy it thoroughly every time. If you look at Brands eyes, throughout the entire interview you can see the smoldering, barely concealed disgust he has for the entire corporate apparatus and the performative chicanery he's enduring (3:07 is a good example). \n\nWhich is the most appropriate reaction anyone could have to the \"Morning Talk Show\" circuit and the institutionalized vapidity it embodies. Everything is fake. Fakes sets, fake backgrounds, fake topics, fake people, fake conversations and fake reactions and Brand just comes in and throws scathing condemnation right in their faces, but in a civil tone. \n\nAnd since everything in Fakeland is about tone, since he's speaking their language, using their tools, and abiding by their rules, they can do nothing to call him out or retaliate as he runs circles around them. Hoisted on their own petard. And then you tie what he's doing during this interview (appropriating the resources of corporate media to criticize and mock corporate media and corporate culture) to the theme of his tour he's discussing (cultural icons being manipulated and represented to create meaning or put forward a narrative), and we've reached a zenith of subversive inception the likes of which we may never see again.\n\nThe cherry on top, of course, is that the icons Brand is discussing in his tour are all ones that are co-opted posthumously, so if he is likening the corporate news show he's on, it's hosts, the network, to those icons then there is necessarily the implication that it's being done posthumously. That the very charade he's participating in is some grotesque puppet show, the last twitches of a stubborn corpse that doesn't yet know it's dead and refuses to accept the facts. It's beautiful.", "[ Jump to 03:07 @ Russell Brand Shows MSNBC [HD] How a Guest Should be Interviewed](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sj6JdXvsWYM&t=0h3m7s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: media monkeybiz, Video Popularity: 97.61%, Video Length: [09:07])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@03:02](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sj6JdXvsWYM&t=0h3m2s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^\| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)", "They call him Willy Brandt by mistake towards the end. Nah boo, that's another Brand.", "The petard, it won't just stop hoisting...", "\"Damned hoist petards, always 'oisting, and petarding...\"", "This reads like Russell Brand speaks and I can’t tell if I find that impressive or not", "Are you endorsing his recent anti vax bullshit or just unaware of it?", "His recent stuff is very clickbaity and targeted towards conspiracy theorists.", "Yeah. People who suddenly start to like Russell Brand for his recent stuff are super sus.", "Russell Brand has always struck me as someone that would be great at starting a cult.", "OMG he butchered these corporate shills\n\nIm more and more convinced he is a kind of anti-corporate Jesus, mocking the peddlers out of the temple", "That time NBC fired Donahue for being anti-war...\n\nhttps://youtu.be/ozxzNjRqCiE\n\nI like Brand. He's often critical of the media and you could tell how much he hated these idiots. Him talking about Manning and Snowden was a giant fuck you to them talking about fluff topics.", "Me either...", "God, please no?", "When he first came on the scene he was drugged out and he hated himself and you effectively hated him because he hated himself. Now that he is sober and trying to love himself you like him. Which kind of supports his ideology that People read the \"Energy\" you put out and it reflects back to you. Which is kind of a lesson that how to project and present yourself to others comes back to you.", "Unaware of it.", ">I'm gonna ask a serious question here, can I try? I'll try...You can try but it's never going to work...\n\nThis is my favourite bit because it's a pretty rude comment from blonde woman and instead of pointing it out, Russel just answers his question eloquently and sincerely. Then immediately in response, the guy starts talking about his accent. It seems to sum up the whole interview.", "I like Russell Brand, I've enjoyed a lot of things that he's made and done. I'm unaware of any \"anti-vaccine bullshit\" he's done or said, but I don't follow him religiously and keep up with literally everything he says or does.\n\nIf he has done any \"anti-vaccine bullshit\" then I would condemn that just as much as any other anti-vaccine bullshit, which is to say it's horrible conspiracy bullshit that kills people. I would also continue to like and enjoy the things he's done that I like and enjoy, and appreciate the things he's done that are smart and perceptive, of which there are a lot. And I'd hope he pulls out of it, and doesn't wind up in 2021 Glenn Greenwald territory. I'm aware that at some point in the past few years he had [Jordan Peterson](https://i.redd.it/t4h0qe9000381.png) on his show and offered little to no pushback, which I was really disappointed to see due to Peterson being a sack of shit and a bigot. I'd also heard he might be taking a turn into right-wing grifter territory, but haven't had time to look at it due to aforementioned reasons and having a pathetic excuse for a life that nonetheless takes up a substantial amount of time irl.\n\nMaybe you could provide some more specifics on the \"Russel Brand anti-vaccine bullshit\" so everyone had more information to work with? Since you brought it up?\n\nAlso, I'm not sure how justifiably incensed you can get about the person \"endorsing every horrible thing he's ever done\" when they literally said that Brand \"descends into gibberish\" frequently. It's not like there weren't already caveats provided.", "Redditor for 38 minutes, 4 comments, all in this thread, uses the term \"wrongthink\" unironically, in 75% of all the comments you've ever made on reddit hereto.\n\nI'm just going to justifiably write off everything you ever say. Hang in there, champ.", "I can't remember if he said it, or someone said it about him - but it went along the lines of \"Just because you were a cunt, doesn't mean you are a cunt\", and I feel he's trying to make up for lost time.", "A 4-minute old account.\n\nThis level of cowardice is embarrassing. I'll just go ahead and be embarrassed for you, since I don't think you're able to do it yourself.", "He's a spectacular orator, charismatic as hell, and believes in some crazy bullshit with extremely liberal feelings toward sex. Frankly, I'm surprised he hasn't started one yet", "Reported.", "What a brilliant, sensible and rational answer.\n\n\"this guy is a sack of shit and a bigot\"\n\n\"how?\"\n\n\"horthorthort i am so embrassd fur u\"", "Another tremendous rebuttal.", "He made them look so petarded.", "Thank you so much for the compliment! All my comments are brilliant, sensible & rational. I'm so glad you agree that I'm 100% correct here, sometimes there are really stupid people on reddit who don't understand that.", "You sound like a nonce.", "Yeah I'm so glad you agree with me about what a pathetic sack of shit Jordan Peterson is. Only the dumbest, most garbage people in the world don't understand that, you know? Real scum of the earth garbage humans, like transphobes. People who are just too damn stupid to understand the concept of transgender people. Fragile babymen with brainworms, you know? \n\nReally weak, insecure cringy incels who have no lives so they try to puff up their egos by being haters, because they're so weak the only way they can try to pull themselves up is by putting someone else down. You know what I'm saying.", "ok", "> extremely liberal feelings toward sex\n\nHe just seems open about it, unlike other people who suppress it like it's an alien occurrence. Everyone does it, but we're not supposed to talk about it?!?!", "Oh gosh I'm so glad you agree with me! Just another brilliant, sensible, and rational comment from me. I'm glad we agree about how transphobic people are the stupidest, most fragile chuds on Earth. Because they are, right? We both know they are. \n\nI'm so glad you agree, because you're just so important, your opinion means just so much. Everyone here is just so glad you stopped in to enlighten us all, like a fount of fucking wisdom, you are.", "yup, you got it bro. nice one", "Yep, 100%.", "A lot of cults devolve into the leader's little sex playground, that's what I meant by the comment. And I meant literally 'liberal' not 'progressive', not that the two don't overlap greatly, just that there's a difference between the two", "> he is a kind of anti-corporate Jesus\n\nThis comment meshes really well with the ones above talking about how he could start a cult, lol.", "Have a look at the short haired blonde woman at 3:50, she is already flummoxed by Brand.", "It’s frankly not surprising at all. The man is incredibly altruistic and genuinely wants the best for people. Only the dense and insecure manage not to see that.", "He almost did. Back in 2015-2016 people on this site were ready to drop anything they were doing just for the possibility of jumping on his cock.", "Hello you four and a half million beautiful souls...", "I feel like being critical these days is quickly labeled as being on a conspiracy theory.", "Criticizing big pharma is not being an anti vax.", "I've been in this studio / office and those people are indeed actually working. It's a really strange set up", "Here's a 13 year old account wondering the same as /u/supradupar", "That simmering opening look from Brand as the host basically says \"I don't know who this person is but apparently he's famous.\" It's like a switch flipped at exactly that moment where he's thought \"fuck it, let's burn this bridge.\"", "Yeah, nobody gives one single fuck about that.", "Unfortunately his friends are Matt Morgan and Noel Gallagher and they would never stop taking the piss out of him for it.", "Dude. His covid takes are 100% awful and full of conspiracy theories", "Do you? Because that feeling is based on nothing and 100% wrong. But then again, you're the guy who cried about /r/NoNewNormal being banned, the worst anti-vaccine sub on reddit. And you soft-pedal your anti-vaccine arguments by pretending to be a scientist, and deflecting your anti-vaccine takes to \"critical thinking\", or \"epistomology\". So, since you're not credible, your feelings about it aren't really of any concern.", "\"you've objectified me.\n\nGoes on to objectify everyone around him.\n\nI think he's honestly just the most confident retard.", "So, the standard right-wing, lazy cover story for being anti-vaccine, aka being anti-vaccine?\n\nOk got it.", "Russell Brand always makes me wonder if there are parallel universes out there where heroin addicts, instead of dying young, gave up their addictions and went onto have the kind of interesting and positive life he did. Then I think it we shouldn't wonder, and just make sure it happens in this universe.", "It's not. Brand is an insufferable poser who can speak quickly and use big words, sometimes effectively.", "PARK LIFE", "The whole reason for the media to exist is so that they can push propaganda for the people in charge.", "Seems more like turnabouts fair play to me.", "This charming man, eh?", "He has shitty takes on everything, from sexuality to race to religion to equality to economy, and he's a hypocrite on top of all of that. Dude makes a fortune preaching personal responsibility to millions of dopes and then has to get himself put into a drug-induced coma in Russia to kick his benzo addiction because he can't even use his own worldly advice to straighten out his own life. \n\nThe reality is he's a mediocre psychologist, and he's got no special qualifications to talk about 98% of the shit he makes his money talking about these days. He's the right's Doctor Oz. You'd get just as much qualified information from Jim at the hardware store.", "What antivax stuff? All he says is that he believes people should be able to choose if they want a vaccination or not. Outside of that he just points to the exchange of money taking place around the vaccine companies and various ties to media organizations and such. That is in no way antivax.", "Who knew using people's preferred pronouns was transphobic.", "No, I went there to drive off conspiracies about vaccines, I'm pro vaccination. I'm a biochemist, did epidemiology in school and quit a phd in molecular genetics, so I think I can get a feeling for things. There's plenty on the conspiracy table that can be disregarded easily.\n\nEDIT: fixed epistemology for epidemiology.", "You do, that's why you suspected /u/supradupar account for being so new. \n\nI feel like I'm taking crazy pills.", "\"schmoody schmopaschmanda schmolls never schmeschplain schmeschmericay schmeory\" says the 11 minute old harassment alt account. \n\nThe 4th one in this thread today. If you're this much of a coward, just get off reddit. Of course, you'd have to have a real life to do that...", "You are the guy who made a post to /r/watchredditdie about /r/NoNewNormal being banned, are you not?\n\nhttps://np.reddit.com/r/WatchRedditDie/comments/pfz9ce/nonewnormal_has_just_been_banned/\n\nThe guy who says things like \"The pandemic is more about obedience than logic\"?\n\nhttps://np.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/r6ytl1/the_mandalorian_theme_the_us_army_band/hmx0hh5/\n\nThe guy who talks about being a \"libertarian\", and cries about how reddit \"isn't Libertarian like it was in 2008\", and says low-grade anti-vaccine talking points like \"I'm in favor of the vaccine, I'm just against vaccine mandates.\"\n\nhttps://np.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/pg0xvc/rnonewnormal_alternatives/hb9acqb/\n\nSo, like I said, you soft-pedal your anti-vaccine talking points by couching them as \"freedom\" issues, or muddying the waters with bullshit like \"we can't really know everything with certainty, there's a thing called epistomology...\" etc. etc.\n\nIt's very clear what you do, despite what you say. To be clear, what I'm pointing out is that you are a classic example of acting in bad-faith, and you lie about what you're doing because that's the cover story to provide plausibility. You're transparent, not clever.\n\nI'm gonna' leave it there man, this already took up more of my time than it was worth.", "Posted six days ago, a video entitled: \"Vaccine Mandates: THIS is what history WARNS us\"\n\nPosted eight days ago, a video entitled: \"A CRAZY MESS: Pfizer Whistleblower SLAMS Vaccine Trials\"\n\nMost of the channel is like this", "So cowardly and cringe.", "The list is vast my man https://www.thedailybeast.com/comedian-russell-brand-has-become-a-powerful-voice-for-anti-vaxxers", "Hey, its me your cousin, let's go bowling... In my sex playground.", "I'm floored that the person you responded to established their credentials as a scientist by saying that they dropped out of a phd program and \"did epistemology in school\" (read: took an undergraduate philosophy course).", "The boorzboroz account is an hour old, and is one of four harassment alt accounts made (so far) just to stir shit, concern troll, sea lion, and shit out bad-faith everything in this thread. Don't waste your time.", "> Russell Brand has always struck me as someone that would be great at starting a cult. \n\nBrand knows that, see his show \"Messiah Complex\".", "I think this view doesn't emphasize the level of personal responsibility you should have though. It's important to listen to your doctor sure, but as far as I know unless you have something that would prevent you from getting vaccinated doctors are all recommending vaccinations so the point is irrelevant.\n\nIt feels like if you want to argue against science journalism maybe don't make an effort to undermine the covid response and choose another topic.", "Goddammit Russell Brand. I was hoping this wasn't true. The best case scenario is he's just doing it for money, because the fascist grift is lucrative. But I can also see where he'd possibly \"free-thinker\" himself into actual brain mush. I hope he wises up and stops this shit. Such a shame from someone with so much potential.", "You think the words he uses are big? Perhaps you should read more books mate.", "Bad-faithers gonna' bad-faith. It's what they do.", "> He's pro-personal-liberty and anti-government control. \n\nAnd of all the government control issues (like protecting big corporations from accountability), he picks the one where governments are trying to deal with a pandemic. \n\n> I think he's also skeptical of political/news sources and reliance on corporations to filter information about science \n\nHe's also rational enough (or at least he used be) to know that he himself is not an expert on the topic of virology and pandemics. How would he 'know' that mainstream Covid information is wrong, and how would he know what the supposed truth regarding that matter is?", "This is 8 years old and morning joe is a complete train wreck anyways not sure why it’s even still on the air.", "4 minute old account. Harassment alt account #5 for the day, all in this thread lol.\n\nGrow a spine, dude.", "what a petard", "Lmao I dont think you know what communist means", " I think Russel Brand is very sincere and not trying to disguise his beliefs with any kind of \"right-wing, lazy cover story\"... and I say that as someone who disagrees with the guy all the time and think's he's a little (a lot?) pretentious.", "Like any conspiracy or specifically a covid one?", "Cry more.", "What?", "1) How did I lie? 2) I'm really not getting your point here", "I find American news anchors cringe worthy a LOT of the time. The commentay of these ones was absolutely ridiculous. Incredibly rude & obviously attempting to steer the conversation into distraction. Brand was a breath of fresh educated & honest air in a room of consistent cringe. \n\nIt genuinely makes me worry that this kind of 'news,' broadcasting is considered normal over there.", "I get the sense they’re trying to be fun/funny and match his snarkiness, but they just aren’t very good at it.", "Alternate title for this post: Guy Who Divorced Wife Via Text On New Years Eve An Authority On Social Etiquette Now", "I can't stand how obnoxious this is with everyone being fake and talking over each other and that shitty acoustical echo. I blocked cable news like 8 years ago, cut the cord and this shit is so jarring.", "There is nothing worse than MSDNC.", "I tried saying \"epidemiology\", we had this over in several courses including virology. Make no mistake, I'm not claiming to be a scientist, I quit that pursuit a couple of years ago because it didn't pay well. All f this is only in response to people telling me I don't understand stuff. I was only trying to prove I can, but that doesn't matter, arguments don't seem to matter.", ">And of all the government control issues (like protecting big corporations), he picks the one where governments are trying to deal with a pandemic.\n\nNo, he makes multiple videos and this is one of them. Blocked for being dumb enough to say this.\n\n>He's also rational enough (or at least he used be) to know that he himself is not an expert on the topic of virology and pandemics.\n\nHe's never claimed the covid information is wrong. Blocked for propagating misinformation.", "It sounds like regardless of what someone says you're going to assign them an opinion, call what they actually said a cover story, claim (dubiously in this case) that they're right wing, and complain about the imaginary opinion that you've assigned them. Your problem with other people stems from the fact that you don't listen and you care about being tribal and getting accusational more than you care about whether or not your accusations are accurate. \n\nSo I'm blocking you, because obviously your opinion doesn't matter on any topic.", "dude you can block me only once", "I don't think I'm being dishonest. You read my profile, fine, I don't need to hide it. I do believe those things. I'm against these totalitarian policies that are going on, I value personal freedom.", "No man, you are wrong. You're just an intolerant prick.", "Joe who?", "Yeah, he's peddling to the same \"libertarian\" crowd as Joe Rogan and Jordan Peterson.\n\nAlso, Russell is very well spoken and very clever, but he is terrible at doing his research; whether it's historical or scientific. Much like Rogan, he's very quick to take something he's quickly learned and opinionate it into a discussion without understanding what he's talking about, or if it's even true. His Messiah Complex tour was so riddled with badly researched information and internet-rumours-as-facts, it was almost impressive. And like all conspiracy theorists, he sells his cynicism as wisdom.\n\nIt's a shame because he's a good heart and a sharp mind. He just ended up falling into his own ego, and because he's insulated in an echo chamber of lunatics, he won't be getting up any time soon.", "The daily best is trash and this is a biased smear job.\n\nHere's a great video deconstructing the whole thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-Wok9QW8H8&list=LL\n\nedit: If you're going to downvote me, I'd love a comment to tell me what you disagree with. I don't care about the downvotes, but I am interested in why people disagree with the points raised in this video.", "\"you are ovulating\" 🤣🤣🤣🤣", "Yeah that's not true at all.\n\nRussell has questioned the integrity of the vaccine over and over, he clearly doesn't trust it, he thinks it's a conspiracy, and he thinks we shouldn't \"discriminate\" against people who refuse it. See for yourself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzl-DrhTR2I. This \"he's not against it, he's just about freedoms!\" bullshit needs to stop.\n\nAnd while we're at it, this alt-right, anti-intellectualism bullshit about \"science journalism is objectively dogshit\" needs to stop. Scientific journalism is peer reviewed; what you're talking about is mass media. Journalism and media are two different things. Just because some media is corrupt doesn't discount the hard work and integrity of good journalism. That's how children think, not adults.\n\nTelling people to \"dO yOuR oWn ReSeArCh!\" and read studies they aren't qualified to assess is exactly what alt-right lunatics do, and exactly why anti-vaxxers exist today. Intelligence is humility, understanding your limitations, and understanding that the discussion should between those who are qualified to understand and represent it, and trusting them to do so.\n\nSo enough of this shit. Please. Haven't we had enough misinformation and stupidity?", "> So I'm blocking you, because obviously your opinion doesn't matter on any topic.\n\nActually he summarized it pretty well. [Especially since you're outright wrong (and lying) about what you're saying.](https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/r6yt8y/russell_brand_shows_msnbc_hosts_how_someone/hmysfrv/?context=3)\n\nBut I love this response from you because it's exactly the kind of behaviour you pretend to be denouncing.", "Russell is word salad incarnate", "I forgot to hit the button, but no, that's retarded. Everyone obviously chooses what information to filter, and if someone makes extremely bad faith arguments and doesn't have a reasonable mind frame for coming to conclusions, ignoring them and blocking them is not the \"kind of behaviour you pretend to be denouncing.\"\n\nIt's not intellectually dishonest to block you for being super illogical/unreasonable.", "He isn't anti-vax. He has said several times on the handful of videos I've seen that he supports vaccination for those who want them.\n\nJust because he is against mandates and forced vaccinations doesn't mean he is against the vaccine. \n\nAre you suggesting that someone isn't allow to report on government hypocrisies and that the Pfizer trials were potentially falsified (from a independently verified whistleblower) without being an anti vax lunatic? They are mutually exclusive.", "I don't think your summary of his opinion or his beleifs is reasonable or valid, and I don't think your reliance on news networks to relay science is justified by public stupidity. \n\nThe result of reading abstracts from scientific papers is still a pro-vaccine stance. The general public is not too dumb to read an abstract.\n\nThe argument \"He questioned this, and alt-righters question this, so he must be doing it for the same reason\" isn't sound.", "Just watched the whole video. What quotes of his would you call out as egregious or evidence that he's into conspiracy theories? He seemed pretty on the money about the various and competing interests that have resulted in the cynicism and distrust people feel in institutions today. \n\n> Telling people to \"dO yOuR oWn ReSeArCh!\" and read studies they aren't qualified to assess is exactly what alt-right lunatics do, and exactly why anti-vaxxers exist today. Intelligence is humility, understanding your limitations, and understanding that the discussion should between those who are qualified to understand and represent it, and trusting them to do so.\n\nI think many have also observed the ways in which these institutions have already failed to act in the best interests of the public. How would you say the pharmaceutical industry did when it came to properly advising patients with regard to using opiates as pain killers in the past few decades, as an example? What level of trust would you say is appropriate to have in the advice of your personal doctor? Your hospital? The provider of your medical insurance?\n\nYes, it's important to understand your limitations, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't be paying attention to the limitations of others as well.", "Hoisted on your own petard.\n\nOr should I say \"Schmoisted schmon your schmown schpetard\". 😊", "Man doesn't know what \"totalitarian\" means, uses it on the internet anyways. \n\nFilm at 11.", "It's not about Russell Brand, it's referring to the comment I'm replying to you absolute gimp.", "I mean there's more than just that article. Coupled with some of videos being right wing talking points. Dude even told fans on how to get out of covid restrictions to see his show.", "He’s the type of person who would start an anti-cult. I really think he’s very ANTI-psychological manipulation", "So they don't take him seriously and he wants to be taken seriously and so calls them out but ... nothing that Brand actually says here makes me think they should take him seriously.\n\nHis thing is that he's going to talk about Jesus, Gandhi, Malcolm X, and Che Guevara, because they all died for a cause and their views are sometimes misrepresented? That sounds more like dorm-room rambling at 3 am after several bong hits than anything actually insightful.", "What specifically has he said that you take issue with? \n\nHe seems to have very nuanced takes to me, and while I don't always agree with them, he's rarely one note 'talking points' on any subject.", "That's fantastic! Someone who agrees with Russell.", "Are you one of his acolytes?", "he kinda is", "Sus of what?", "A lot of the times he seems to jaq (just asking questions) in way that undercut other positions without putting their own forward. Some of times he just has the wrong facts presented. He's clearly undercutting the safety and effectiveness of vaccines as well as the severity of covid. Not to mention some videos like the Russia one with Trump/Clinton is just straightup wrong.", "Everyone does it!? Where and when and can I be a part of this??!!", "Joe mama", "I think Willie did great", "I've been watching him a long time and you make a fantastic summation of his general vibe. I knew something was going... off over the years but i didn't know exactly how to put it into words. He still does have good content here and there, but like you say he also grabs a lot of things right off the surface and runs with them.", "Those are clickbaity titles that read as conspiracy.\n\nDoes the content of the videos match the title?", "Brand barely fucking understands half the shit he talks about, he's just good at covering up his ignorance with flowery language. The man is a dull fucking cunt.", "Hey just letting you know that I'm coming back to block you for the second time, despite your ridiculous assertion that I can't do it twice.", "username checks out", "Weird, the last time I watched this video, everyone was commenting on how Mika was apparently so horny she was unable to speak\n\nNow everyone thinks that Brand was trying to \"own\" the MSNBC empire somehow\n\nI mean, he was on a promotional tour for his new special. He himself was engaged in capitalism. \n\nYou are all crazy", "What the fuck did I just read" ]	157	videos	Russell Brand shows MSNBC hosts how someone should be interviewed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoQtcgNSfNw	/r/videos/comments/r6ytl1/the_mandalorian_theme_the_us_army_band/	[ "Lose all credibility as soon as they put on masks with mouth holes cut out. Smh", "Are you fucking kidding me with those \"masks\"?", "Its a shame they didn’t check with you first.", "It's part of their creed. Some wear the masks to protect the others, some wear the masks to show solidarity with those who are wearing their masks to protect them. I believe they call this custom being \"uniform\". It's an important part of their creed which they don't wish to abandon.", "US Army lmfao", "Lol, the pandemic is more about obedience than logic.", "good to see them leading by example and showing people that you should wear masks to stop the spread of covid. Even if they are showing a populace so gullible to right wing propaganda to take notice. As evident by the USA's horrendous and deplorable death toll during this pandemic.", "But these are equivalent to fake mesh masks. Masks should not be worn when they are not needed! It's either unawareness or tribal signaling.", "As the kind of person who sometimes..\n\n- wears a mask in the car\n- by myself \n- while headed to a mostly empty store at 11pm..\n\nI also did a.. \n> \n> \"I mean.. i suppose you don't need lips to play a recor-\n> \n> ::trombonist's chin appears:: \n>\n>*h'wat.. the fuck. ..really?!\"\n\n&nbsp;\n\nTho if you squint, the french horn lady kinda* looks like an \"It's a Trap\"(Mon Calamari) or Jar Jar(Gungan) star wars creature so..\n\nImagining they're doing lite cosplay makes the concept sliiightly less vapid.\n\n&nbsp;\n\nEither way. Get Vaxxed. Wear a mask. Don't be a dick. Cheers!", "also, observing 6 ft social distancing.", "the military is more about obedience than logic.", "no, its setting a good example for other people to follow. Which is exactly what a large body like the defence force should be doing. Theres a reason why the USA is the worse g20 nation in terms of covid deaths and infections. They are gullible, and easily led by murdoch. Lets face it, they are the laughing stock of the developed world.", "Shouldn't a good example be a rational example?", "promoting wearing masks during the worst pandemic in the last century is pretty rational. It would be irrational if they didn't promote wearing masks, the US death toll is testament to that.", "Then you support restaurant commercials where they wear masks with holes in then for spoons and eggs rolls to fit through and dental commercials where they have a toothbrush hole in them.\n\nThis is absurd. You can't promote the benefits of something without identifying the cost. Where is the line? You can absolutely promote masks without promoting nonsense.", "I support wearing masks to stop the rapid spread of the worst pandemic in 100 years. Its not exactly rocket science. I have no idea what adverts your talking about. The internet has people from other country's on it in case you forgot, or never knew lol.", "Well, now I've got a masked blowie fetish.\n\nWhich is cool." ]	17	videos	The Mandalorian Theme \| The U.S. Army Band
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/r71ebp/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/r71ebp/deleted_by_user/	[ "Y u only post pro imperialist propaganda bro?", "I have learn so much in just 24 minutes that what is the Wokeness movement", "Wokeness comes from post-modernism and America, not from Marx or Europe.", "Intellectual and woke shouldn't be in the same sentence.", "This guy creates fantastic videos and he should be more widely watched. I would recommend all of his videos.", "Watch the video before giving your wrong opinion.", "So the thesis is an explicit genetic fallacy. Gotcha.", "Do you think I haven't seen this video 1800 times before over the last five years? It's always wrong." ]	8	videos	[deleted by user]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l07cMK6iWUk	/r/videos/comments/r73gi2/benny_benassi_satisfaction/	[ "Im disgusted, the rectangle sander is not an orbital sander, it’s a finishing sander.", "Original clip if you want the reference \n\nhttps://youtu.be/aZcSCT34H84", "I prefer OPs version.", "It's law that once your video is posted, this one is also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qetW6R9Jxs4", "And then it's not the full experience without watching this one third: [https://youtu.be/CS9OO0S5w2k](https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ)", "Took me way to long to realize this isn't the actual music video", "I imagine this video coming together by the director of the whole thing trying to formulate some sort of speech to the guys involved.. \"so yeah, were doing a cover video for Satisfaction by Benny Benassi and there will be a bunch of construction-related set pieces, please learn how to use them if if you are unfamiliar already. We dont want anyone to put a hole in their foot by accident or anything..\"\n\nThe one guy raises his hand because of the distinction between the different types of sanders.. but ends up lowering it because they moved onto the part of the choreography where he has to oil up. Thinking \"God forbid I get mineral oil on any of this equipment!\".", "[Superior Satisfaction](https://youtu.be/QmKQ2Z1odSc)", "\n\nAnd then it's still not the full experience without watching this one forth:\n\n[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXxvc8BSYv4&ab\\_channel=gremlin133](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXxvc8BSYv4&ab_channel=gremlin133)", "This is just what it looks like in my brain when I drive past a construction site. Woof!" ]	10	videos	Benny Benassi - Satisfaction
https://youtu.be/xVyum6FKOVA	/r/videos/comments/r73u7v/deadwoods_perfect_final_line/	[ "Good video", "I haven't watched this video yet (I'm about to).\n\nBut this channel has two of the best videos I've seen discussing The Sopranos.\n\n\"[Who Killed Tony Soprano?](https://youtu.be/hy4AGeuQ5pM)\" and \"[Why Tony Really Killed Ralph Cifaretto](https://youtu.be/IcvdpBrQGgM)\" are interesting and well done. And they're far more insightful than most other TV & film video essays/critiques.", "I haven't watched Deadwood in a long time, I really enjoyed it, but I feel like season 2 wasn't as good. Al was much more interesting/enjoyable to watch when he wasn't sick in bed and I felt like that was a lot of the episodes after season 1. I could be way off because it's been so long, but that's what I remember." ]	3	videos	Deadwood's Perfect Final Line
https://youtu.be/qmGjkXIqI08	/r/videos/comments/r73xc3/why_do_jeans_wear_out_so_quickly/	[ "interesting.", "Jeeze this video should be titled 'why jeans are bad for the environment' instead.", "For sure. The answer to the video is because they use spandex to cheapen the cost.", "I'll be referencing this video for the police when I go streaking. \"I'm saving the environment, I thought this was America.\"" ]	4	videos	why do jeans wear out so quickly?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYh2iaFQ51s	/r/videos/comments/r74xzr/plastic_from_salmon_sperm_chinese_scientists/	[ "“It must be kept completely dry”\nAYFKM?\n\nAs they said, plausible for computer parts and other dry applications though.", "Let’s not make plastic WORSE 😅", "Surely out of every substance know to man in the world there is something just as good that we can use other than the sperm of an animal..." ]	3	videos	Plastic from salmon sperm? Chinese scientists create eco-friendly alternative
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZuAC28jlOg	/r/videos/comments/r755yh/wendys_baconator_cowboy_baconator_remake/	[ "This video makes me hungry. 😊", "12 frikkin minutes to make a burger with bacon and he didnt bake his own buns lol.", "Hat and mustache is cowboy\n\nGod I hate people who literally dress like stereotypes for their YouTube" ]	3	videos	Wendy's Baconator \| Cowboy Baconator Remake
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40F8mALRukA	/r/videos/comments/r75ihu/climbing_an_antenna_tower/	[ "My dream job", "Yeah, nah, I’m good.", "That is a lot of work just to change a light bulb.", "What is the pay like?", "Wow. This gave me some serious anxiety.", "Those last few clips up the ladder didn't look very OSHA compliant...", "Seems like it would be easier to build a mechanism to lower the mast...then again why would a company spend more money on something like that when they can just build it like this and pay an insured tower climber like this guy. If he falls and dies all it means is that it's probably going to be a few more days before that bulb gets changed.", "Less than you think. I follow a professional group on social media and part of their job involves tower climbing. For big towers like this there are mercenary type dudes who will announce that they are planning a cross country trip in 3 months. All the guys operating equipment on towers that need attention will reach out and have him make a stop.\n\nBased on the discussions I've observed in that group, tower climbers are usually guys without a degree who are mechanically inclined. Someone who would probably be installing cable boxes or doing hardware work at a data center if he wasn't climbing towers.\n\nIt's for sure one of the nicer blue collar jobs pay wise but it's solidly blue collar.", "I think you're really overestimating how easy it is to make a 2000ft mast come down", "No one is going to comment on when he gets near the top and says \"oh shit?\"", "I am friends with a guy that tower climbs and walks lines for repairs, he gets paid about $800 an hour. Still pretty cheap when your life is in your own hands.", "~~It is my understanding OSHA rules actually allow for free climbing with no safety line at all until the climber plans to rest in a static location.~~\n\nEdit: I am idiot who took what someone said on the internet at face value as truth. Don't listen to me.", "You ever see the guy do it without any safety equipment at all? I think he got fired after the video released if I remember right.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/2A_h2AjJaMw?t=50", "A few minutes after that he also says \"oh fuck\" but I dont know why.", "And what you do when that system inevitably has an error and doesn't work lol...", "...can lightning strike up?", "To someone who rock climbs for fun it could be a dream come true. You get a lot of the same thrills, but get paid to do it. \n\nI rock climb for fun, but I'm a bit of a safety wuss and get a thrill out of being 20 meters up. I'm not out there climbing El Cap and not sure I'd want to do this... but it would sure beat working retail again, and does present some real positives when compared to my current desk job.", "Yeah no way the mast is coming down to replace a bulb.\n\nI do fully expect this to be a job that gets taken over by specialized robots/climbing drones at some point though.", "Does anyone else get a tingling sensation in the bottom of your feet watching videos like these?", "Am I hearing cows in the background?", "Holy shit, it’s one thing to climb mostly untethered.. but he also has a fucking toolbox (or w/e that is) dangling from his hip on a 1-2m tether ready to throw him of balance once it catches some wind.. yikes that’s scary on so many levels", "moms spaghetti", "I think of Jim Norton losing his shit at videos like these. Here's one \n\nhttps://youtu.be/IzGsAhz2j0Y", "Imagine climbing back down", "Whenever I have dry hands I just watch this", "The whole part where he's simply clipping onto those pegs is scary. It's not like those pegs have a huge knob (i know) on the end to keep the clip from just slipping over if he were to fall. Feel like they could've easily welded or bolted in some closed sections easily for the sole purpose of clipping into, or make the end of the peg large enough that the clip couldn't just slide over it.", "Not to shit on you, but a little critical thinking could've proved that wrong lmao.", "Yeah. Sometimes OSHA rules are 100% about safety. They have to balance safety with productivity so trade-offs are sometimes made.", "Probably forgot to bring the replacement bulb.", "So how does this end? Did he change the bulb or was he just checking his cell-phone reception?", "That's just his wife calling his mobile phone to ask what he is doing. \nI guess he expected it and had it on vibrate.", ">I think you're really overestimating how easy it is to make a 2000ft mast come down\n\n[With the correct application of high explosives, only a matter of seconds.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_CnfZeqJns)\n\nHowever, if you want it to be re-usable afterwards... should've said! ;)\n\n&#x200B;\n\nBut yeah, seriously, \"would be easier to lower the mast\" is the best worst take I've seen on this kind of video!" ]	32	videos	Climbing an antenna tower.
https://youtu.be/fc8hbwKDHYc	/r/videos/comments/r75mst/my_fourth_mma_fight_which_ended_in_a_5_second/	[ "Fight starts at 46s for anyone who only has 5s to spare :)", "Your opponent didn't look ready. Nice win though.", "I was actually terrified of the guy - that's why my hands went up so high when I went to my corner! He had as many years of training as me on top of being a TKD black belt, so I was wary of getting kicked in the face. Fortunately I got there first.", "Come on, round card girl, pay attention.", "Well fought. If you don’t mind me asking…\n\nHow do you feel about giving/receiving brain damage from these fights? Like it’s got to be so hard to do boxing and MMA nowadays with what we’ve learned about long term effects.", "I think an ending like this is unfortunately as good as it gets on the winning side. Taking no damage to my brain or body is easily the best outcome. It's obviously devastating to the loser, though. My friend spent a good hour after his fight vomiting into a bin, and he won his fight...\n\nIn terms of how I feel about it:\n\nMy opponent would've done the same to me, and if I want the thrill of competition and victory then there's an inherent risk that we all have to accept.", "I meant the long term effects, like CTE. Like having dementia at 40 is kind of terrifying https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronic_traumatic_encephalopathy\n\nAnd aren’t people more likely to suffer severe CTE if they’re good fighters? (Since they do more fights over their careers against more dangerous opponents?)", "Desktop version of /u/parabostonian's link: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronic_traumatic_encephalopathy>\n\n --- \n\n ^([)[^(opt out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiMobileLinkBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^(]) ^(Beep Boop. Downvote to delete)", "Yeah CTE is certainly something to look out for, but you see it a lot more in guys who have wars in the gym - most fighters have 2-3 fights a year; it's the sparring multiple times per week that does most the damage. Also, it's down to referees and ringside doctors to stop fights that should be being stopped when it's in the best interest of the fighters' health.\n\nWith all respect to my opponent and the acknowledgement that he still took some damage, the fact that he went out quickly is probably better for his health; imagine if he'd not gone down as soon - he would've taken twice the amount of punches and therefore twice the amount of brain damage. A lot of the time the fighters with good chins - fighters that don't go down easily - like Justin Gaethje, Muhammad Ali, Nate Diaz and Nick Diaz end up having much worse issues than the guys with weak chins, because per loss or even win they absorb much more damage.", "My man please throw a \"LOUD WARNING\" or VOLUME WARNING in your title with that kinda intro", "hey Shin to the Neck is MY signature move!", "I hope someone beats you unmercifully about the face and ass for that intro music. Blew my fucking ears out. Christ.", "Good night. Great job my man" ]	14	videos	My fourth MMA fight, which ended in a 5 second knockout!
https://youtu.be/8T1Ra7aQ4LU	/r/videos/comments/r77822/silent_alarm_is_the_best_bloc_party_album/	[ "okay.", "Gotta love bloc party.! They’ve been bangin em out since 05. Well for me.", "Got to be Intimacy for me. Silent Alarm is a close second though.\n\nTheir live show at St. John's church in London was one of the best I've seen.", "Intimacy 100% although that's a hotter take these days than it should be" ]	4	videos	silent alarm is the best bloc party album
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vh17LbB8pU8	/r/videos/comments/r77beo/john_cleese_as_robin_hood_is_that_absolutely/	[ "Time Bandits is a jolly good time!", "criminally overlooked film", "One of my favorites!!", "Word on the street is that Time Bandits are coming back as an Apple+ show, with guest directors such a Taika Waititi.", "Please don’t make a short joke. Please don’t make a short joke.", "Brilliant movie. Sean Connery probably had no idea what he was getting into.", "It's on the criterion collection! I got the Blu-ray of it.", "People talk about traumatizing moments in films you saw when a kid, hands down it is the final scene of this movie for me as a kid in the 80's.", "Don't touch it, it's evil!", "“How long have you been a robber?” “4 foot 1”", "that's just how easy you can get vaporized if you aren't careful touching things.", "I'm a little short-staffed in the hindsight department, but I think he already did.", "The way he eyeballs granny before he clocks her in the face with his fist.", "Love \"Time Bandits.\" Sadly it's one of those movies my wife just doesn't get but I still enjoy the heck out of it.", "As a person born in 1979, YES!", "I love this movie and this scene is one of my favorites.\n\nThe way they cut a few frames to speed up the power of each blow, especially that last one is brilliant.", "Sean Connery 100% >!murdered that kids parents.!<", "I always wonder how much of that character is based on Prince Charles", "The humor eludes me. Can someone tell me why this is funny?", "> Sean Connery probably had no idea what he was getting into.\n\nAs is tradition.", "And he gives her the most brutal punch out of the previous two!", "Activate your humor chip, Data.", "https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/sean-connery-british-actor-holding-a-handgun-while-wearing-thighhigh-picture-id121498519?s=2048x2048", "Well humor is subjective so I will just explain what makes it funny for me. There is a lot going on in this short scene, here are just a few:\n\n1. Robin hood is overly \"Jolly!\" while his men are absolutely miserable. But yet they treat him like a rock star.\n2. He asks the 2nd bandit \"you are a robber are you?\", he gets no answer, but still \"Jolly good!\"\n3. He asks the 3rd bandit, how long \"have you been a robber?\", he replies \"4 foot 1\", classic gold\n4. The punching just cracks me up. Why is he doing that??! They are poor! It makes no sense. Even Robin Hood has to to ask. When the answer is \"Yes, I am afraid it is\", he just says \"Ah, fine\" and continues. WTF LOLs!", "Such an awesome movie!", "\"And how long have you been a robber?\" \n\"Four-Foot-One.\" \n\n\nCracks me up every time.", "Never watched this one before but as soon as he asked if it was necessary to punch them I knew the next one would be a woman XD", "There's hunger in his eyes", "Agree. All points. Plus Kenny Baker looking as confused as ever!", "When all your loot is being given away, watching the recipients get cold cocked somehow makes the pain of losing your loot less.", "Time Bandits holds a special place in my heart. I saw the movie in theaters with my three best friends as a going away thing two nights before my family moved halfway across the country.", "You can’t just leave people with a still image, let them get a full taste of [Zardoz](https://youtu.be/kbGVIdA3dx0)", "A few questions \n\nWhere does he keep his extra ammunition? \n\nIs this a prelude to what we have to look forward too in 2022?\n\nWhat drugs where they taking and where can I get some?\n\nIs this movie available anywhere for streaming?", "I’m not sure how to feel about this.", "This is my favorite movie of all time. I always interpreted the punching as the way society treats the poor. They are giving them something of value but punching them for taking it.", "Ah ah ah jolly good!", "When I got the trailer from YouTube there was a link to buy or rent it through YouTube!", "The Giant Head chasing me down the hallway agrees....\n\nTook me about 15 years to recover from that trauma, thank you very much...", "“Well…I am the nice one”", "He was measured by opportunity, and was found short", "That was jolly good.", "Out of curiosity what are some movies you do find funny? Because this is hilarious. I am curious as to your comedy tastes.", "Never seen it, loading it up now!", "This was a film I \"discovered\" as it were back in the day. I was about 12, watching television surreptitiously as a child one evening so my mother wouldn't notice, and this movie came on. It immediately sucked me in and genuinely moved little 12 year old me to tears.", "5. If you’ve ever watched the queen greet people it’s pretty much this.", "To me, things like this can only ever be a net good. \nIf it's bad I just don't watch it and carry on with my life, if it's good, hey! We get a cool new show! \nHonestly, worst case, these nostalgia grabs employ a bunch of people in the film/TV world for a bit and are then forgotten.", "What’s the film called?", "I love his crazy eyes", "As long as Gilliam is there, it should be decent at least.", "Bro, this movie is definitely something else. The backward dialog scene is like dropping too much acid.", "Lovely", "My family always said \"Ke-? Jolly good!\" to each other whenever someone was cut off in the middle of saying something.", "So is this a coincidence or Astro turfing?", "Children from the 80s should get a medal for the amount of dark and wild stuff released back then.", "Time Bandits!", "Well, a bunch of little people would get a pretty good gig..", "I didn't give an opinion on it or anything. If I were astroturfing on a 10 year old account, I would at least say it was GREAT or something.", "Maybe… but it’s just such a weird coincidence.\n\n\nI’m watching you hot shot" ]	57	videos	John Cleese as Robin Hood - "Is that absolutely necessary?"
https://youtu.be/7kwAPr5G6WA	/r/videos/comments/r77d1z/neutron_rocket_development_update/	[ "1000 kg is also called a ton, just saying. Metric ton, but the vast majority of the world just calls it a ton.", "A first stage that internally holds a second stage. Very interesting!", "The Metric ton is also spelled tonne", "This deserves to be at the top of /r/All. I guess I should be happy it even made it to /r/videos though. Developments like this will change the future in worlds that's truly not appreciated.", "Why did he eat his hat?", "I'm just waiting for some aerospace engineering nerd to come tell me why it's all bullshit.", "To me the big thing that stands out is they have built nothing. Everything ATM seems like it's only on paper.", "Why of course I know him... He's me!\n\nThis is all actually extremely achievable, and sound in engineering principals. It's fairly innovative though, so the timeline will be the main concern. They were originally hoping to launch this in 2024. I expect they have success with something very similar to this, but it may be a little later than this.", "Eh, it's a unique concept, but so many concepts in aerospace don't make it beyond that stage. When Rocket Lab actually have an orbital flight that returns back to the launch site, we can praise it on r/All.", "He once said he would eat his hat if Rocket Lab ever moved toward making its boosters reusable.", "So I mean... this is neat and all, but some half-decent renders hardly give me confidence in the viability of the company long-term. This whole video watches like a low-budget SpaceX wannabe. Don't get me wrong, I fully support innovation and trying new things, but smacking sheets of aluminum and carbon fiber to prove a point in the absence of any real justification or data don't exactly inspire confidence.", "Ahhhh, thanks", "Slick marketecture video designed to raise capital. Let's see if they can actually do what they say.", "Can't wait to see this guy dancing!", "They do already have Electron and have been flying succesful missions into orbit with it for over 2 years.", "I mean, that's definitely something. I will wait until I see prototypes of this design in flight to pass any further judgement on what they're promising here.", "video: https://youtu.be/Rafa_WBFIyE", "Spacex is a low budget spacex wannabe. Basically there are these technologies that are most likely going to get developed. There will be errors here and there but either they are technologically possible and they will be developed, or humanity will try and fail and the technologies won't be feasible and they won't work. Whether it's this company or some other company doesn't matter, if we want to fund this stuff we should be funding it, and if we take a historical look at humanity and human progress it's clear we should be funding it. The only issue is that people here get so caught up in their celebrity games that they throw money at the people they like (Musk, Gates, even Zuckerberg in a way where they pretend to hate them), but they're scared of all of the hundreds of thousands of people who are probably smarter and more capable but who they haven't heard of before.", "Their first rocket, Electron, has been flying into orbit for almost two years. Over 20 flights.", "past rocket. They were asking about this one. I am not saying they can't make it, just this one is still just math.", "Eh. Rocket Lab has done a damn good job of doing what they say they'll do. Of all non-SpaceX space companies, they have the best rack record of doing the incredible.", "Oh yeah, don't get me wrong. Rocket Lab is well positioned compared to most space startups (if they're still considered a startup). \n\nAlso Go Bucks.", "Oklahoma State fan here!", "Ah man I was really betting on OSU being Ohio State. Oregon State is another alternative. Too many acronyms." ]	24	videos	Neutron Rocket \| Development Update
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9lA8ofMLRA	/r/videos/comments/r77tqj/why_they_called_it_omicron/	[ "Can we get on honorable mention for Lrrr from the planet Omicron Persei 8?", "I actually prefer the \"Ruin xmas variant\"", "Interesting, this is the least funny video I've ever seen.", "So... which one of the three is the funny one?", "Bunch of low hanging fruit strung together: the video.", "All Futurama fans are having no issue with the name Omicron", "I don't know why so many ppl are shitting on these guys.. give them a break.. this is a good video.. it may not be funny for everyone but no need to take the time out of your life to bash something when you don't even like it so much.. just go..", "Yeah weird that they felt the need to comment rather than just leaving for another thing they do like. Pretty harmless video but oh well" ]	8	videos	Why They Called it Omicron
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p89gBjHB2Gs	/r/videos/comments/r784s9/in_honor_of_georges_seurats_162nd_birthday_heres/	[ "Great clip!\n\nWould love to visit that museum someday. So many amazing paintings there!", "There are a lot of iconic moments in this movie, but far and away this is my personal favorite!\n\nEDIT: [Here’s the clip minus the commentary](https://youtu.be/mFY9ace2t4s) -not that we don’t love hearing from John Hughes!", "Thank you for sharing this!", "Connor Roy was interested in modern art since very young age", "I hear he's polling at 1%.", "I always loved the rendition of \"Please, please, please let me get what I want\" that Hughes layered under this scene.", "this is why we haven't had a good home alone movie in 30 years. John Hughes was a genius at making characters relatable. Ferris Beuller is a psychopath but damn if that movie didn't make you root for him. If they tried to remake this I'm sure it would be absolute dreck. you just know they would include bits like singing in the parade but totally miss the little bits of humanity. That shot with Cameron and the Seurat is 30 seconds long and it elevates the whole movie. you could probably scrub 10 minutes of moments like that from the film and completely ruin it.", "I read this great interpretation where the movie is actually a snapshot of Cameron’s life with Ferris being an imaginary friend who models what Cameron wants to do, but is too afraid to do because of the fear of his father seeing him as a failure.", "\"He fears that the more you look at him, the less you see that there is anything there.\" \n \n Fuck me I was having a decent day till now.", "The [Art Institute of Chicago](https://www.artic.edu/collection) is awe-inspiring.", "I hear he has a lack of real world experience.", "Alternatively : the movie is actually a snapshot of Cameron’s life with Ferris being a real friend who models what Cameron wants to do, but is too afraid to do because of the fear of his father seeing him as a failure.\n\nLike that's the movie we all watched right? No ghost theories needed lmao", "If you had directed Ghost, Demi Moore would have just made out a lot with Whoopi Goldberg.", "A few years ago our family got stuck in Chicago because our plane was delayed due to weather. We ended up having a little “mini-vacation” in Chicago and did most the things Ferris did on his day off. The Art Institute of Chicago was by far the highlight. \n\nI was walking around like it was a scavenger hunt, trying to find every painting from the movie….but then just stopped in awe of the incredible art/history there.", "Sounds like you have an awesome family.", "Sorry. :(\n\nIf it's any consolation, I'm sure that statement doesn't apply to you. You clearly have a sense of humor. :)", "When you do, make sure you get the [audio tour done by Chicago's own Dennis Farina](https://youtu.be/y95dwTFfTiI?t=31)", "I knew there was some symbolism scattered throughout the movie about him and his relationship with his father and lack thereof with his mother, but man John Hughes really went deep with it. Like... highschool book test deep \"what does billy bob skipping the rocks into the river symbolize? Answer: his deep need to cast off all earthly possessions because of his father's death when hew as 5\"", "You should listen to the whole commentary. It only came with the 1998 DVD release and no other releases before or since (even special editions), but you can also find it online. It's the best director's commentary I've ever heard.", "The work an unknown good man has done is like a vein of water flowing hidden underground, secretly making the ground green.", "Ok back on track thanks", "In honor of Georges Seurat’s birthday and Stephen Sondheim’s passing, last week, [here is “Sunday”](https://youtu.be/LC1QZyLUOL4) from Sondheim’s Sunday in the Park with George, which is an entire Broadway show about George Seurat and his painting, A Sunday Afternoon on the Island of La Grande Jatte.\n\nGeorge Seurat is played by Mandy Patinkin, who you may know better as Inigo Montoya from The Princess Bride.", "It’s just perfect" ]	26	videos	In honor of Georges Seurat's 162nd birthday, here's the art museum scene from Ferris Bueller's Day Off (with commentary by John Hughes).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23nDxPSIoAw	/r/videos/comments/r78fsg/jonathan_pie_the_worlds_end_cop26_short_film/	[ "God damn it, I had just distracted myself enough from the end of thwe world that I was having a nice day.", "Jonathan Pie is a right bellend", "The sweaty sweary shouty schtick got boring over half a decade ago.", "He went viral once with that schtick and now he's been chasing that high for the better part of a decade.", "Thought he would've been set given he got a nice regular paying gig from Russia Today way back when. Still doing this tired persona I guess.", "A collection of people who made a living off of deceiving people into giving them power who live luxury lives and who don't give a fuck if it compromises their status and power, people who climate change wont affect because they are older than most and past their prime because they were busy getting there, they aretn't going to let anything in the way of them keeping that status; they are the people who we must trust to fix climate change, the most powerful who would rater exploit their position and do anything selfless.\n\nPeople who made their career off of making themselves the focus are the people who need to act selfless. These people would rater sell you a lie and an illusion than figure out a solution. People who would rather pat themselves on their backs than give other people a chance.\n\nBoris Johnson and Joe Biden don't give a fuck. Joe Biden is peddling lies and illusions about traditional automakers, automakers that he says are the greatest, but don't even sell any electric vehicles currently while at the same time doing dirty or ignoring companies that are actually doing something productive and positive. Joe is just in the pocket of dirty corrupt industry.\n\nHow Joe Biden and Boris are some of the most powerful leaders is a catastrophe. Joe is a near senile idiot who is stuck in the past who has little clue how to be an effective president, and Boris is outright malicious while pretending to be something he's not.", "I don't know who this is but this was a great video." ]	7	videos	Jonathan Pie: The World's End (COP26 short film)
https://youtu.be/nAiE9fJbVd4	/r/videos/comments/r794b4/weather_man_melts_down_on_live_tv/	[ "# OP is very likely a repost bot \n\nThese bots steal content and repost it to build karma. For example, this post is stolen from [this original post](/r/videos/comments/k4of76/weather_man_melts_down_on_live_tv/).\n \nThe accounts are often used to post spam, scams, misinformation and for other nefarious purposes.\n\nIf you check [OP's profile](https://reddit.com/u/Aeiexgjhyoun_III), you will likely see many posts and comments based on past popular contributions from authentic Redditors, but the OP is not invested in these communities and they will only regurgitate content as long as it takes to build up enough karma to make money by selling the account.\n\nPlease [report these accounts to the admins](https://reddit.com/report), to moderators, and do not upvote reposts like this one.\n\nMods, if you'd like to receive modmail for these posts instead of this comment, [send a DM to me here](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=exponant&subject=Modmail%20Request&message=videos). \nIf you'd like to automatically deal with these bots and others, check out [BotDefense](https://www.reddit.com/r/BotDefense) or [BotTerminator](https://www.reddit.com/r/BotTerminator). \n\n[I am a bot, but please send me feedback if I make a mistake and my owner will review it.](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=exponant&subject=%2Fr%2Fvideos%2Fcomments%2Fr794b4%2Fweather_man_melts_down_on_live_tv%2F)", "🤣🤣🤣", "Ryan is my new hero", "does this guy still have a job? I just became a fan!", "That's John Crist... he's a comedian.", "Thanks!", "Cool, didn't realize this had already been posted, I'm human though.", "Tell me what human activities you enjoy. Prove your humanness.", "This is not real.", "You are correct. He’s a comedian and has done other similar “reports.”", "It's a good bit. This is what I always hope weathermen will do. Production was fine, but she stuck that pun at the beginning a little too hard. That's when I knew it wasn't real.", "are you sure?", "Videogames and football mostly. Currently replaying Sekiro with the new lmtsr mod.", "Your username is literally I overflow stacks. What's more robotic than that.", "Oh, still a good sketch though.", "Pretty sure." ]	16	videos	Weather Man MELTS down on live TV
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/r79jj2/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/r79jj2/deleted_by_user/	[ "Recommendation for next time; edit out the first 4 and a half minutes of flight video over empty fields.\n\nOr provide a timestamp in the title. That was a HARD 4+ minutes to wait through", "Do you love killing?", "Educate yourself \n\n\nhttps://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/a-plague-of-pigs-in-texas-73769069/", "Well aware of the situation, my question stands." ]	4	videos	[deleted by user]
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/r7aq5t/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/r7aq5t/deleted_by_user/	[ "Released in 1972. I was six. Mind blowing at the time.", "dude. literally no is saying pong is fake. we all know pong exists.", "what this guy said", "This is the dumbest post in the entire fucking world.", "What is this pong you speak of, everyone knows the first video game ever made was GTA IV" ]	4	videos	[deleted by user]
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/r7awpc/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/r7awpc/deleted_by_user/	[ "can relate, adult life be like that sometimes.", "Well, this guy gets it.", "I find this interesting. I've honestly never felt this before. In fact, it causes me a bit of sadness that I won't always exist.\n\nWell, at least it did, before I understood I am the Universe itself. I do still wish at times the story that this part of the universe is telling itself could go on a little longer though.", "Probably one of the more discussed topics on reddit lol", "She never said she wanted to kill herself. In her darkest times crying into my arms, or just letting her anguish out, she only ever said she wanted to go to sleep and never wake back up.\n\n\nWell now she's never going to wake back up. And now I carry on, thousands of mornings ahead of me waking up without her. Thousands of nights going to bed wishing I could say goodnight. And quite honestly, now I go to bed most nights content with the idea and sometimes hoping that I also won't wake up the next morning.\n\n\nIf this video speaks to you at a level you didn't want to admit to yourself, or if you have wrestled with this same dilemma where nothing looks more inviting than the something ahead of you, please talk to someone. I guarantee that without you here, it will only become more dark torches for others to bear, so please reach to someone. It doesn't have to be someone close, I know those thoughts of \"not wanting to burden those around you\" but talk about it, and stick around, wake up tomorrow.", "I resonate", "I don't desire death, I desire sweet oblivion. \n\nIt's not want for more existence that keeps me here,\n\nbut that in place of my oblivion, others despair.", "I don't want to die, I sometimes wish I'd never been born at all.", "thankyou. i'm so sorry for your loss", ">I guarantee that without you here, it will only become more dark torches for others to bear\n\nStop guilt-tripping, that's the worst way to keep someone from suicide." ]	13	videos	[deleted by user]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtPMleTKpyw&ab_channel=SkellBones	/r/videos/comments/r7b8sa/there_are_drummers_and_then_there_is_gavin/	[ "pretty good drumming. keep up the good work 👍", "What about the drummer from Rush?", "Neil Peart is awesome, man! But Gavin Harrison is far better in my opinion.", "There's nothing provocative about it really. You clearly have an opinion, and so do I.", "These might be things that you idealize but I would much MUCH rather go to a show where the band is being creative and mixing it up with fills and whatnot. If you're going to see it the exact way it's performed on the album why not just listen to the album again. Mix it the fuck up", "I think you confuse popularity with musical talent. And I'm absolutely not saying Rush wasn't talented, but Neil Peart could have been swept under the radar had Rush never happened, even though he is extremely talented. I don't know how to best describe \"why\" I consider Gavin Harrison to be better, because I'm not that articulate. Which is why I showed you why with a video. You must not be very familiar with him, but I would recommend looking more into his work with the band Porcupine Tree, as they do what you described Rush being able to do, but in my opinion, just much better. Also check out King Crimson, OSI, and The Pineapple Thief. \n\nA youtuber commented his take on why he is a legend that I can absolutely agree with though. He said, \"Beast of a drummer, not only on a technical level, but he is so musical also. A true master musician before anything I would say. He doesn't overplay, but still keeps himself busy. He knows what to hit and when to hit it to complement the music. All while being humble and respectful. That is what I call world class.\"", "I saw him live with King Crimson twice! He was definitely the strongest and most interesting drummer of the THREE there.", "Yussef Dayes has entered the chat.", ">Yussef Dayes\n\nTotally! Yussef melts my brain, he's an absolute legend!" ]	8	videos	There are drummers, and then there is Gavin Harrison
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5nDgGb27-s	/r/videos/comments/r7bcn0/biggie_smalls_on_an_episode_of_martin_1995/	[ "Sergio tracksuit 🔥", "it's like fresh prince and married with family had a stepchild i don't like. nothing against biggi but that whole \"martin\" thing looks atrocious.", "This brings me back to when I used to work as a PA way back in the day and was there for the shooting of this episode. What’s mind trip that this was posted. Chris ( Biggie )was so nice and was easy to work with as he only requested sardines for dinner." ]	3	videos	Biggie Smalls on an episode of Martin (1995)
https://youtu.be/BKEL4cUTOI4	/r/videos/comments/r7bkez/nintendo_sixtyfour/	[ "[Give me N sixty three and N one more](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCY7IN0e1uY)", "Best thing I’ve seen all morning", "Got that Newgrounds feel, love it.", "[This one is still my favorite](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BolU0A4hlyI).", "the 'drum solo' had me in tears", "I lose it every year, I love this stupid clip", "Amazing. What else is christmas n sixty for?", "Yeah that was annoying. Don't post it again.", "Saying shit just to get downvotes is sad.", "[They did a Taco Bell commercial](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcFtW3E2VOE#t=1m28s).", "Is there a subreddit for videos that get funnier with each viewing? Because this belongs on there.", "God I love the internet sometimes", "That's a literal description my mom would have given about what video games do to kids in 1997.", "Why did I just watch this 4 times in a row ??!!\n\n:-)", "Thanks.", "There was a or still is a youtube channel that used a similar kind of animated style in combination with a story being told by two guys. Can't think of the name of it though." ]	17	videos	NINTENDO SIXTY-FOUR
https://youtu.be/suiob_fQtnA	/r/videos/comments/r7bzej/5_0_x_3/	[ "Easy, the answer is 975867373", "Wow look another sketch by one comedian playing 2 roles with no effort into changing voices so it ends up in a monotonous mess which goes on too long.", "15 right? ;)", "That was much more worthwhile than I feared.", "Hey this Phil Jameson guy is pretty good!", "Do not speak ill of the Phil.", "8675309", "Wise One, please teach me the way 😌", "No, 8 duh", "5, for anyone genuinely wondering", "We’re not doing this here keep it on Facebook or something", "You should watch the video", "(_Gets down on knees and bows down placing forehead in the ground in front of you repeating “I’m not worthy over and over_)" ]	13	videos	5 + 0 x 3 = ???
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGpUenXQGoI	/r/videos/comments/r7d0kb/for_the_always_sunny_fans/	[ "I can only take this show in short stints but if you haven't watched it before, you should definitely take an hour to give it a try.", "If you watch [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv-PAs2dxOk) supercut of all the footage from the Friends version, you can really see how it's a bunch of people who feel awkward about dancing, who were probably filming for hours shooting slight variations on the same ideas that at the time felt cringe or awkward rather than fun and goofy, and then they just used really short clips zooming in on individuals or pairs to make it look better.", "Crazy to think that IASIP started the year after Friends ended.", "I've never seen this and I'm a huge Sunny-head (is that a thing). I fucking love these guys (and Dee). Funniest fuckling people on television 15 years running.", "[Always Sunny parodying other sitcoms is always great.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCwI3KDGtRk)\n\nThe whole episode ['The Gang Tries Desperately to Win an Award'](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMxZogZcUuw) is a fantastic meta commentary on why they never win awards over other sitcoms.\n\n[Plus their laugh track bullying too.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVDkh5h4UR8)", "the first half of this video makes me so uncomfortable", "[this is either a counter- or a prime example](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vqgdSsfqPs)", "They are missing a greased watermelon" ]	8	videos	For the Always Sunny fans.
https://youtu.be/BlT1P-qHF6k?t=9924	/r/videos/comments/r7d3a0/while_microanalyzing_a_game_a_youtuber_ends_up/	[ "2:46:20 in case the time stamp didn't work for you.\n\n________\n\nI know this kind of stuff tends not to get traction on reddit, and usually leads to more arguments and defensive-reactions, than anything. But I just thought this deserved more attention.\n\nMike (the guy talking) hosts a weekly podcast that's like a bookclub for video games, where he and his audience agree on a game to tackle, then they all play up to certain points and discuss what's happened. \n\nIt's a very neat, if not niche, sub community. And tackling Xenogears (one of the most philosophically dense video games ever made) was ambitious. But it lead to discussions like this that I felt were very meaningful and poignant.\n\nAnyway, I hope someone out there gets something out of this.", "r/xenogears", "[ Jump to 02:46:20 @ Xenogears Story Analysis (Ep.19) \| State of the Arc Podcast](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlT1P-qHF6k&t=2h46m20s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: Resonant Arc, Video Popularity: 99.51%, Video Length: [03:13:47])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@02:46:15](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlT1P-qHF6k&t=2h46m15s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^\| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)" ]	3	videos	While micro-analyzing a game, a YouTuber ends up making a deeply profound argument about the nature (and management) of mental health issues and trauma
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/r7d81m/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/r7d81m/deleted_by_user/	[ "Goddamn that's infuriating. He talks so confidently while he robs the man", "Land of the free", "Thankfully it was returned. Corrupt cops...sheesh\n\nhttps://reason.com/2021/12/01/watch-nevada-highway-patrol-officers-seize-a-veterans-life-savings-through-asset-forfeiture/", "Ah, yes! Civil forfeiture, where the government can steal from you without due process!!!", "That’s complete bullshit. Too many stories about overzealous law enforcement doing crap like this and how difficult it is for people to reclaim their own money. Fuck them", "United States v. Ten Thousand Dollars. [Source](https://casetext.com/case/us-v-ten-thousand-dollars-in-us-currency). There's a bunch of cases like these. It's really weird. The money is guilty and has to be siezed. /s", "This is one of the only times that I agree with the KSA on how to deal with highway robbery.", "This needs to turn into a movie where the veteran takes down the corrupt police with his advanced training and weapons", "Law Abiding Citizen, it's my favorite revenge flick.", ">Corrupt cops\n\nAnd by \"corrupt\" you mean literally just doing what the law allows them to do?\n\nEDIT lol, people think I'm actually defending cops?", "The same people who \"back the blue\" at that!", "That was an amazing movie, I still remember the first time I watched it. My friend told me I needed to watch it but wouldn't tell me anything about it to not spoil anything", "For people interested in the whole \"following too closely\" justification to pull people over:\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTG4yhtZ2Rg\n\nTrooper uses the same justification in that scenario and manages to find drugs. \n\nI live somewhere it's almost not possible to follow someone at a reasonable distance so this is a fairly annoying scenario that seems impossible to avoid. If I slow down to get space people will cut in front of me, I'm now following too closely. If I slow down too much then I get pulled over for impeding traffic, driving under the speed limit, driving too slow in the left lane, and if I change to the right lane I'll get pulled over for unsafe lane change.", "What if I told you laws can be bent in corrupt ways or even written that way to begin with?", "They should have to prove it comes from illicit sources before seizing it.\n\nOtherwise it seems to me most of these cases are them letting people traffic drugs and then just reaping their profits once they’ve sold them.", "And interpreting that as “the law has OUR back, not THEIRS” is what makes a corrupt cop different from a normal cop just following the laws.", "I would argue that the law itself is corrupt in this case. Also there are many forms of corruption, not just legal. There's moral and ethical corruption as well, which applies in cases where people do things that the law allows but are still reprehensible.", "Seriously though, when ever I hear someone go on about \"Freedom\" I always think about civil forfeiture , no knock raids, and how you can be arrested for no reason within a 100 miles of a border.", "a law allowing someone to do something doesnt mean its something they should do or must do given a situation.", "he does it everyday. just part of the job.", "That's like 2/3 of the US population too", "Freedumb", "Police officer camping in the left lane while talking about the poor driving habits of the Nevada man when it's obvious that the Nevada man wants to pass the blue truck but thought the officer in the pickup was going to pass both of them first as you should given that it's the passing lane that the officer is camping in...\n\nThe cop uses driving under the speed limit as justification for pulling the Nevada man over, which the cop finds strange (driving under the limit), when it's obvious that the Nevada man is clearly behind a slow moving blue fucking truck that the Nevada man eventually passes, but when the cop pulls him over, commends him on his great driving and for driving under the speed limit? \n\nAnd you have people who unironically support these power-tripping, authoritarian dickwads as if they can do absolutely no wrong.", "Texas is notorious for this. Texas DPS tried this on me once because I had out of state plates. Same type of interaction. Start nice then keep asking questions before they ask to search your car. I didn't have anything at all and they wasted about 1.5 hours tearing my car apart looking for cash.", "Cops can pull you over for driving under the speed limit, since it it suspicious. Cops can pull you over for going 1 mph over the speed limit, since it is illegal. Cops can also pull you over for going exactly the speed limit, since it is also suspicious. \n\nNo matter what you are doing, they can legally pull you over for whatever reason they can think of.", "Especially in this scenario, where his options were to go under the speed limit behind a semi that was going under the speed limit or to pass the semi by merging in front of the cop who is going a similar speed to the semi. I wouldn't want to do that!", "Another way to tell the story: Nevada Highway Patrol pulls over a suspected drug trafficker with $100K in cash. He says he has receipts for his $100K that prove it's not drug money, but the police have no way to verify them on the side of the road. So they seize the cash. The DEA investigates, finds that the story is true, and the legal case is dropped and the cash returned a few months later without ever having to go to court over it. (He filed a lawsuit, but that may have had no impact on the situation.)\n\nSeems like everything is working as designed.", "IIRC, John Oliver had a good episode on Civil Forfeiture", "Returned after 6 months and thousands of dollars in court/lawyers fees.", "Lol a police stealing from a man is politically divisive?? Which side is in support of stealing money from combat veterans to be clear!?", "“Can i have permission to search your car?”\n\n“No.”\n\nThere is never a situation where you should allow an officer to search your car without a warrant.\n\nedit - yes they will find another way in. Once they start asking you about the contents of your car you’re already going wherever they want you to go. Cooperating cannot help you. No amount of cooperation can save you from whatever they’ve decided to do with you. The only thing that you get to decide is how easy their job is doing it. I have a lot of friends and family in law-enforcement and I am generally a pro police person, but even they will tell you that under no circumstances can letting them search your car or answering a bunch of questions in any way be beneficial to you. Anything you say and anything do do can be held against you but none of it can be used to help you. Be polite, allow them to be professional (or unprofessional if you can record it), “I’m sorry but i do not answer questions without my lawyer present. I’m sorry but cannot submit to any kind of search. May I go?”\n\n[Relevant video discussing this very matter](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE)\n\nedit 2 ~ \"not complying with the police\" is different from not consenting to a search (verbal or physical). \"Can I search your car\" is different from \"I am searching your vehicle\". If they do not have permission to search your vehicle, state it, clearly. \"You do not have permission to search my vehicle.\" Contact your lawyer immediately.\n\nedit 3 ~ You do not have to have a lawyer on retainer, you're allowed to just pick one at random and keep their office number on your speed dial. There's thousands of them with billboards on the side of the road, just pick one and save their number. Odds are if they have billboards then they'd love your business.", "It’s like they’re a criminal gang.", "Banks hate him, cops love him, find out how to get robbed blind by the people who are supposed to be protecting you.", "You'll never guess who pioneered Civil Asset Forfeiture in Congress.", "Absolutely unbelievable that this is allowed to happen. Legalized armed robbery, plain and simple. I recall that Obama put a stop to this shit, but Trump struck it down so the thefts could continue. Biden needs to reinstate the law or regulation which prohibits this behaviour. In the end: there is good reason people don't trust cops in America. There is good reason people hate cops in America.", "9 day old account with multiple America bad, China good comments.", "Corrupt laws mean corrupt cops. Hope that clears things up for you 😃", "Fuck those cops and the law that allows that to happen. They are piece of shit cops for doing something like that, I’m glad he got his money back, hopefully he can sue them and get more money for the damn troubles that they caused him.", "Yeah isn't it innocent until proven guilty? Why is property different. Guilt ass cash.", ">Seems like everything is working as designed.\n\nHow much money are you willing to lose every month to the feds because they can take it?\n\nThe WaPo reported on this, and he had to HIRE a lawyer to get the money back. \n\nYou're ok with the government taking all of your money for 6 months, having to pay to get it back, and hope a major news organization covers it?", "> Too many stories about overzealous law enforcement\n\nThat implies the law enforcement officers think they are doing the right thing. There is no way they aren't aware they are simply stealing people's money. They are just confident that they get away with it more often than not.", "How is this political?", "Spoiler: >! Great movie but fuck Jamie Foxx for insisting on the shitty ending. !<", "Now I don't want to get political, so I'm just going to say that both the ~~thieves~~ police and the victims have made excellent points.", "I feel dumb having not known thats another way cops can legally fuck you. Fuck 12", "And don't forget the most important part: \"Shut the fuck up\"", "And Why was he pulled over?", "They seize it so it can’t be used to continue whatever illicit practice it came from.\n\nIf we are going to change these kinds of things we have to be intellectually honest about it.", "Unfortunately the point of many laws is that police are expected to use their own discretion to make the right decision. He had documentation and he didn't have a criminal history. Just because they were legally allowed to do it doesn't make the seizure any less frivolous and a gigantic fucking waste of time and money.\n\nCase in point, cops can pull you over for exceeding the speed limit. Not only if you're going 15 over or 10 over, 1 mph over the limit and per law they can pull you over and give you a ticket.", "Literally 0 reason to take the cash. He even had years of receipts. American cops never fail to to get it so wrong", "But since we know that CF is a thing, why continue to carry large amounts of cash? I'm not saying it's right, but you shouldn't do it just for this reason.\n\nNot to mention that if someone other than a police officer robbed you, you'd probably be SOL also.", "ALWAYS, always, always, respond with \"I do not consent to searches\".", "that man was literally robbed on the side of the highway by an armed gang... fuck everything about this", "Well that was infuriating to watch. That poor guy should have told that cop to go f** himself from the get go.", "Land of the Fee\n\n\nHome of the Slave", "We got a tailgating ticket (in California) because the bike cop was camped on the median strip on the far side of a large intersection, so when the first few cars got the green they zoomed through the intersection, saw the cop sitting there, hit their brakes, and instead of traffic free flowing everyone was now bunched up.\n\nAnd we were the unlucky bastards who were last through the intersection. The cop rode down off the median strip behind us, pulled us over and cited us for \"tailgating\". And when he was done he made a u-turn and rode back to park his bike on the median strip again. He probably filled his entire month's quota on that day alone.", "Why don't cops start pulling over armored trucks and doing this?", "Aaaah yes, another example of America the free.", "Yeah and only returned because he sued when they didn't meet the deadline. Civil forfeiture should be abolished.", "as a Nevada resident, I can tell you NHP is an incredibly rude and offense organization to deal with. \n\nI can also tell you \"I apologize sir, but I am not going to discuss what is in my vehicle without you obtaining a search warrant.\" is an invaluable term.", "Because the police suspected he was a drug trafficker based on his driving behavior (traveling under the speed limit) and rental car.", "Fuck you boot licker.", "> There is never a situation where you should allow an officer to search your car without a warrant.\n\nYeah if he is asking he doesn't have probable cause.", "The funny thing about inexcusable things in America is there's always someone to excuse it.\n\nI hope you don't get treated like this", "They are just a boot licker.", "Yeah, that's the idea. It's just a streamlined version of the 1980s cop drug dealers.", "Yeah that's great and all but if they want to find a way into your vehicle they will. Once he admitted the money was in the car there was no going back. The problem with this guy was being honest and having nothing to hide.", "practice makes perfect", "He almost won too. I hated the ending. I wanted them all to get smoked.", "What are your thoughts on the 1989 Tiananmen Square Massacre where a couple thousand protesters were indiscriminately murdered by the chinese government?", "It isn't, but he wants it to be because it makes him uncomfortable", "Something tells me this guy trusts banks more than he trusts cops now.", "This is on purpose. Just corrupt cop shit.", "Why they being veterans is relevant at all?", "Told the cops to shut the fuck up after they asked to search my car and now I'm arrested...", "I kinda hope he does.", "Merican morals.", "It's why I love traffic stops gone right where they FINALLY become good cops.", "Yes, but if it theoretically only happens to people that are \"bad\" or brown, we seem to be okay with it.", "True, but they can't search your car, give you a citation, or arrest you without something tangible. At least, that's how it is supposed to work.", "But what was that cash wearing?", "The irony is this is why people like that don't trust banks. They think the bank might just take their money and give them nothing.", "I get what you mean but nobody should have their money stolen by the police, even people who wave thin blue line flags", "and here is a prime example of why we don't talk to the cops or, at the very least, surrender our rights away when they ask us to", "Legality is not the same as morality. Making slavery legal again would be a morale failing because it allows brutality to another individual who has no recourse. Society is not one sided or mono directional - justice and civility is a two way street. Cops don't seem to recognize this and continue to demonstrate their inability to be horrible people who escape judgement (for now).", "I'm all for cops doing difficult jobs but this is absolutely horrible and obscene to the highest degree.\n\nProbable cause can go suck a fat one in so many cases. Don't speak to cops, do not allow them any permissions they ask, do not give them any reason to use their powers. \n\nThat being said, thank you to the cops that do the difficult job, the one worth thanking.", "I also see that, he was waiting for the cop to go past so he can keep going.", "\"Honesty\" wold prob involve doing a little detective work to ensure there had been a crime committed. But who's got the time for that?", "Asking him to itemize the contents of his car was just another way of searching his car. He answered the questions because he was trying to be cooperative, but he shouldn’t have cooperated with any kind of search.", "[This website](https://www.statista.com/statistics/191694/number-of-law-enforcement-officers-in-the-us/) says the number of police officers in the US is a little shy of 700,000.\n\n[This website](https://trac.syr.edu/tracreports/civil/470/) shows a downward trend for civil asset forfeiture cases, but as of 2017 there were still about 1000 cases.\n\nThese are happening all over the country, in both red and blue states. It's not just one or two cops in isolated, remote locations. It's everywhere. That confidence comes from the knowledge that he's not the only one doing this, that his buddies back him up 1000%.", "Steal veterans life savings\n\nThere. I fixed it.", "Ugh, I get into this all the time with people defending shitty business practices. \n\nJust because it’s technically legal doesn’t mean it’s immediately good, expected, or should be assumed that everybody should exploit the technically legal thing.", "Yes those people should. Unfortunately, some people have no imagination and learn from self-experience. So let them experience it.", "At least they have to have a \"reason\". \nIn most European countries the police can pull you over anytime.", "> only returned because he sued when they didn't meet the deadline.\n\nAs a veteran in a story that the news picked up. Any regular civilians would be fucked.", "For some odd reason the money is guilty until proven innocent.....", "Except if you're wealthy you can get out of all that and more. These laws and restrictions are meant for commoners.", "second largest form of theft after wage theft by employers from the pockets of their employees", ">Yeah that's great and all but if they want to find a way into your vehicle they will\n\nThen fucking make them do it. Make them do the leg work. If they want to search, make them find a reason, legit or not. Never give consent.", "I guess it's to have an explanation for the source of the money. Sure any other decent job would do as well.", "Technically? Because it isn't a citizen, a human, or an animal (which all have legally-defined rights). Which is a bullshit way of getting around the fourth amendment.", "How do you know there was an illicit activity? Who has the burden of proof in the justice system? \n\nOur system is based on being innocent until proven guilty, and access to due process of law must occur to prove that there was illicit activity. \n\nAbsent of these factors, it is unjustifiable to seize property from an individual.", "Is it political though? I don't think I've ever spoken with someone who supports this. I don't think I've ever even seen anyone online that supports asset forfeiture.\n\nI understand the base premise behind it, being able to go after the criminal's pocketbooks. But anyone with two brain cells to rub together can see that giving police 80% of the seized funds is just begging for police corruption.\n\nIt honestly looks to me like the only ones pushing for this are corrupt cops who like stealing money. When the vast majority of people are against this, I don't think it's fair to say it's political.", "Fuck the banks, banks are corrupt. The irony is he has probably seen first hand what the banking system does around the world. I don't trust banks either. Why would I trust an establishment that keeps getting bailed out, spends more than it makes, and any transaction over x amount has to be monitored, reported, and maybe on a delay. My mother needed dental work not long ago. Emergency dental work including bone grafts. Had to wait 5 days for the bank to clear the funds to us. I like knowing where my money is and don't need anyone telling me how much I can spend, when I can spend it, etc.", "This is exactly why cops do this. Most people don't have the resources to fight civil asset forfeiture cases, and it's often made intentionally difficult do so. A story just came out of my state where the DA wasn't prosecuting these cases for years in hopes people would give up before they were given their chance in court. And from what I've heard, they're usually pretty easy to get dismissed, but it might cost more than you got shaken down for in the first place. So it ends up being real easy for PDs to make money by robbing the working class.", "They always ask, even when they have PC. It makes it easier if you consent. If you say no they will tell you their PC and proceed anyways.", "Rookie mistake. You say that to the judge, not the cops.", "It seems that the cops know who has large amounts of cash in their vehicle or not. I feel like someday we're going to hear that large amounts of cash became detectable by law enforcement somehow. I know that sounds crazy, but cops like this seem to target people who have lots of money in their vehicle.", "In Europe, the faulty party has to pay the lawyer fees.", "There actually is. Walking Tall with Dwayne Johnson and Johnny Knoxville", "But that's the point though. The government can't (well shouldn't be able to) seize my car to prevent me from selling drugs, if they don't have enough evidence to charge me for selling drugs.", "The gangs and the government they’re no different.", "> Seems like everything is working as designed.", "I don't think the law is wrong per se. This was never the intent of the law but this is how self-interested people execute it in the field i.e. the police and all the cops that want to use it to pad their resume. \n\nThere needs to be a much stronger regulatory framework to justify this nonsense. There needs to be a warrant just like under normal search and confiscation, not just a clearance from the DA. This is an overzealous legal-state, one would almost say national-socialist tendencies. This is after all how 'the state' takes presidency over the citizens.", "This could have been avoided had he not consented to a search of his vehicle. Nothing good can come to giving an LEO permission to search your car", "Do some of them burn crosses?", "The money is the only thing that matters anyway. It’s never really been about public safety.", "Big facts", "You can follow the law and still be corrupt. Saying it’s technically legal doesn’t absolve them of their actions", "big pimpin'", "It's moot. They would just run the dog around until it alerted.", "Who made you hall monitor?", "I had a friend that was a stripper. Her roomate had one single marijuana plant growing. The police raided her house and took all of her money. Years worth of savings. Like, 10 grand. The case was tied up for 3-4 years and she didn't get the money back until it was done. I watched her struggle financially for almost a year because of it. Fuck the police.", ">The money is guilty and has to be siezed.\n\nThis is going to be the slogan for my new money-abolitionist political party.", "They wouldn't even be allowed to watch/make/share this video.", "Legality =/= Morality. \n\nSlavery was legal, should we not fault slave owners because of that?", "When police have such clear motivation to seize cash, there must be a requirement of judicial intervention. ie. get a warrant the 4th Amendment literally bars civil asset forfeiture specifically.", "technically yes, which means its a corrupt law and system too", "If they have probable cause they don't need a warrant. You shouldn't give them permission to search, but you can't (or at least shouldn't) try to stop them so long as you make it clear you are not giving them permission to search.", "He admitted there was over $10k in the car. I bet they could search it without permission based on that. I assume that's probable cause since carrying large amounts of cash seems to be a crime in America.", "The point is that it doesn't matter that he's a vet when the dollars are on the table. He was* fucked just like us reggies would be, but he fought back because he's a fighter. \n\nThat's the real moral of the story.", "Yah, it was different when banks paid a decent amount of interest on savings accounts. The case could be made that you were missing out on free money.\n\nNow, interest is practically non existent.\n\nI’ll keep an account that I can toss some money in every month to use my debit card for things like streaming services and online purchases, and to have a place to turn checks into cash. \n\nOtherwise, banks can get fucked", "Keep licking those boots.", "Normally I scroll through Reddit and don’t have any kind of emotional response to it, but boy, did this ever piss me off. Glad he got the money back, but the rigamarole he had to go through is bullshit.", "You could try saying you wont let them search your car but then they will likely just bring a dog and false flag it so they can search anyway. Make them do the leg work but they can do what they wanna do if they really wanna do it.", "Sounds like we need another amendment to patch this loophole.", "The money was returned immediately after a lawsuit was filed on his behalf. They were taking no steps to return it prior to that point despite having no evidence of a crime committed.\n\nBut by all means, keep licking that boot, you seem to enjoy it.", "use a credit union", "You forgot corporation on that list sadly, right before human probably.", "Well if I get pulled over and the cop takes all my cash, he'll have a whopping $1.38", "I think once they have explicit permission they don’t even worry about it. \n\nThe system delegates power to the cop, the cop delegates his conscience to the system.", "Everyone worries about losing the First and/or Second Amendments, but the Due Process (Fifth and Fourteenth) and Right to a Speedy Trial (Sixth) are already dead in the US, and almost nobody cares.", "First of all, it appears you think that forfeited assets get returned to the owner based on the existence or outcome of a legal case. This is not true. Asset seizures are not related to cases. In this example there was no legal case. They took his money. There were no charges. There was no investigation to be investigated. The money was forfeited and would be split between the DEA and the Nevada Hwy Patrol. Case closed. \nThis was a fishing expedition for civil forfeiture from moment one. There was absolutely no good common-sense reason for the officer to pull the driver over, in the first place, let alone to suspect that the driver was involved in the illegal drug trade. \n\nThis was a crystal clear case of every law officer involved being solely motivated by their personal career benefit from having their name attached to a a windfall forfeiture. \n\nYou are correct that it is working as designed, but only because it was designed for the government to legally steal from anyone who doesn't have the means to navigate the complex and expensive process of remittance. \n \n\nI hope it never happens to you.", "It's been many years since I watched the movie, but isn't this kinda the plot of Rambo?", "Yet corporations are people", "Why did you agree to the search?", "Nope. It's pretty much wrong even if it isn't abused. Unless the person is arrested and charged with a crime that would explain that the money was ill-gotten the state has no right to seize it. Even then, the state should be liable for damages if the person is found not guilty. Our legal system is based on the presumption of innocence.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nIt is time for police departments to seize the assets of people suspected of white collar crimes. Then we will see how long these laws last.", "Well obviously. But it's funny that we take the drop outs, make em authority figures, and then tell em, show the work, and they're all like wahhhhhh", "I’m much more afraid of being robbed by police than non-badged criminals.", "It's maybe the most bizarre of any American laws that are regularly cited.", "Yeah, and there's no incentive for them to do it without a reason though, and they aren't just going to make more work for themselves.", "It's why you put your money into Bitcoin. You can travel cross country with the memorized pass code and then at your travel destination, you can either enter you seed and get your wallet for a cold wallet or log into a web site and retrieve it from a software wallet.\n\nYou can then transfer to cash and in about a day its in your bank. Is it as fast as cash, no. But it keeps these dickhead cops from confiscating your money so they can buy a Camaro with your stolen money. Better yet, use a Credit Union that's part of their shared network and you can withdraw that money from any Credit Union that supports it.\n\nGet out of the dollar and get out banks. Screw them and protect yourself from the increasing corrupt federal government.", "from the article: \"I can understand why someone doesn't trust banks in this day and age.\"\n\nwhy not? does FDIC not mean shit anymore?", "Remember, never say yes to a search without a warrant. Never talk to a cop beyond what you have to say.", "That and it depreciates in a bank. You get like 1,5% interest while inflation is 3-5%", "And those are the ones that matter the most and went to the heart of the American grievances with England.", "So what was it... land of the free, home of the brave?\n\nYou guys get stopped by your cops and mugged. Its like some spots in Africa...", "The moral is that “cops take veteran’s hard earned dollars” makes a good headline. Replace that with practically anyone else and there’s no real news there, and the cops likely keep the money.\n\nOr “he’s a fighter,” I guess.", "Remember, corporations are people. Money is not. /s", "Don't forget, \"Your honor\". Important.", "> ~~Civil forfeiture~~ The war on drugs should be abolished.\n\n\nFTFY", "I'm with you but I'm a white male (as was he). Were I not white I might take an entirely different approach.", "When protect and serve, means reverse ROBINHOOD. \" SIR, I hereby Rob you Of your money\" on the highway. By another name \"highway robbery\"", "not mutually exclusive", "That’s the crazy part. The cop sounds like such a nice guy. You’d have to be a complete ass to give him a hard time and not answer his questions.", "You can’t fight back against the US legal system if you don’t have money. No matter how much ‘fight’ you have.\n\nEdit: moral of the story is; no matter how ‘innocent’ you are, never give LE permission to search your car without a lawyer present.", "If it can happen to him, it can happen to you. This is terrifying and disgusting.", "Corporations have what's called \"legal corporate personhood\" which means that they have (some) of the same rights as a natural person. Which really only means that you can sue them as a specific entity in court rather than the several individuals that comprise the corporation. But it sounds and feels dirty to essentially call Comcast a person.", "Or they'll call a dog that's trained to key on literally every car and get it that way", "And work the forces.", "Nice try popo", "That’s nice. In the US we have something called ‘qualified immunity’. Basically cops can’t be held responsible for anything they do in ‘the line of duty’. It’s fucked.", "Rambo First Blood", "Once it's seized, though, would it just sit in a vault? Why take it if there's no arrest?? \n\ngod this fucking country", "We live in a country whose justice system is based on the premise that one is innocent until proven guilty. Civil forfeiture presumes guilt. It is wrong.", "What a fucked up country.", "Do you actually believe cops must have a reason to pull you over?", "Rental car? $100k in cash? Going to NorCal??? He goin’ to buy mucho mota! Guarantee!", "If the law can be interpreted in a way that harms innocent people, it is a bad law regardless of intent. \n\nThe only solution in this case should be to abolish it. Taking someone's property with no proof of wrongdoing is antithetical to \"innocent until proven guilty\" and the crap about \"charging\" the asset is a stupid way to try and get around this. Civil asset forfeiture is cops unilaterally punishing people without due process.", "I don't trust Bank of America to make decisions that will benefit society, but I do trust that they're not going to lose my money.", "Why don't the cops roll up to a big business headquarters, state that they're taking the money because it's potentially being used for crimes (because it is let's be honest here) and be done with it?", "This dude was driving under the speed limit in a rental car outside of reno and admitted to be carrying well over 100k in cash… yeah as a cop I’d think that was suspicious as well.", "Most of them do.", "This is called highway robbery", "Oh what if, hear me out, what if we say the money is being donated for political activities. Since money is speech, the government just deprived you of your ability to speak. Can we try that lawsuit?", "I was out of state and at the mercy of whatever ride they'd take me for if they wanted to. If refused the search, they said they would bring in a dog and that could take up to two hours. All part of their plan I guess.", "No", "Some of them hold office.", "I doubt that. The cop could have illegally searched his car, still seized his money and this man would have had to do the exact same bullshit to get it back. The veteran wasn't charged, they just took his money. They will use the same argument as to why the 4th amendment doesn't apply to money they take from a non consensual search. When a court eventually tells them to give it back, it's not like anyone in that theft will face any consequences.", "So…. Buy bitcoin?", "What corrupt pieces of shit! I hope he collected damages when he sued.", "If that were a thing here, police departments would be running around on tricycles armed with super soakers\n\nWhich already sounds better than what we currently have lol", "Fuck this. I'm buying more bitcoin.", "It isn't really a loophole. The idea that seizing somebody's assets is punishing the asset is absurd. It doesn't need to be patched, it needs to be enforced. Civil Asset Forfeiture is illegal if you interpret the US constitution in good faith.", "Why is no one talking about the money scanner used to pick him out!!!! They saw the glow of a pile of cash in his car with special radar!! They knew exactly what they were doing!!! It’s like shooting fish in a barrel and you are the fish!!!!!!!", "Highway robbery! I mean wasn't that a thing in... late 19th century?", "You have to think about the crime that the law was intended to tackle: large amounts of money a la The Mule. That is why there needs to be a law like this and a swift process.\nThe law is clearly flawed but its intent needs to be on the books and properly executed. This is a prime example of the execution being fucked up and the government being over-zealous.", "Because they know that armored trucks are owned by big companies and that those companies have the resources to get that money back and potentially counter-sue.\n\nThese cops want to go after people that probably can't afford to hire representation to get their money back and therefore those people just forfeit the money without a fight. Scummy practice and easy money for law enforcement to ~~take~~ steal", "This bait, it has that smell, that baitty smell that smells....baitty", "Really speaks volumes to those who excuse police brutality by stating things like \"If you have nothing to hide, just peacefully comply.\" \n\nDude did just that, and he got royally fucked over for it.", "He fought back because he's a fighter, sure.\n\nBut he only won because he was a vet that the news noticed. I could fight too in rat situation but it wouldn't matter.", "So infuriating", "Are either of those things illegal?", "I guess it could work, since the cops drew first blood.", "Wrap it up", "\"Prove\" is more complicated than it would otherwise seem. Police officers out working their jobs aren't going to be able to prove these things to a criminal standard (i.e. beyond a reasonable doubt); that's what lawyers and judges and courtrooms are for. Court proceedings are complicated and take a lot of time because things like \"proof\" are complicated and take a lot of time.\n\nInstead, the usual standard applied to police officers in situations like this is to require \"reasonable and probable grounds\" to search and/or confiscate property. This doesn't require that they \"prove\" an offense, because that's an unrealistically high burden; instead, it requires that they are reasonable in their actions and that there was probably a crime involved (from a \"reasonable\" point of view). Mistakes are definitely going to get made, but standards like this, when properly understood, can help to reduce those mistakes. And if a mistake has been made, that money should be returned as soon as practically possible.\n\nI'm not trying to defend the current system as perfect; I just don't think requiring officers to \"prove\" an offence on the spot is a reasonable solution to this issue. Tighter standards for RPGs, better oversight, and increased transparency and accountability to the public are where I'd start.\n\nEdit: Ahh, downvoted for neutrally providing information on how the legal system works. Never change, reddit!", "Given the videos we se on and on what is preventing them from shooting or hurting you. They don't seem to have much limits in what they can do. Yesterday i saw a video of them shooting a guy in the back in an electric wheelchair. The police department made an official statement that it was: \"a violation of their policies\"\n\nFor normal people it would be called murder. So saying no to police sounds risky in a shithole country where police can do almost what they want with you.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nEdit: by the way i like the USA and when i say shithole it was a joke on Trumps expense as he called other countries shitholes. The whole police situation is pretty sad though and i hope someone could go ahead and at least start fixing it because it is severely broken.", "Wow it's almost like cops aren't the good guys? Who'd have thought.", "And the GOP loves it! Hypocritical fucks.", "JP Morgan is against racism…in theory", "This situation is awful but could have been avoided. Don't answer questions from police. Certainly never consent to a search. If they have probable cause, they don't need your permission.", "Those cops deserve prison time. And a lot of it.", "Nevertheless you should say No and let them claim PC. \nYou can potentially fight lack of PC in court, if you said Yes then you can't.", "if i become a cop and pulled over an armored truck; could i keep the money?", "Fuck this argument. Using legality as your basis for morality is the exact same bullshit that lead to centrists saying slavery is ok because it’s legal after all. Seriously, you cannot live your life this way.", "Who do you think the cops work for buddy? They are here to protect capitalists and their investments. They are not going to rob their bosses.", "> ~~It’s like~~ they’re a criminal gang.", "PA has some of the worst property seizure laws in the country. I've read a story about a home being taken because the owner's son was dealing drugs, and they knew nothing about it.", "Who was that?", "If they really want to search your car they will. They'll take your refusal to allow a search as proof of guilt and call in Fido the False Positive Dog to give them justification.", "Because their job is to enforce the interests of big corporations, including prisons.", "This isn't rhetorical, how is asset forfeiture constitutional in a country where money is considered free speech?", "Eh, it doesn't really bother me. He wasn't going to fix a system built on morally corrupt incentives by killing everyone in it - can always add more meat to the meat grinder. A lot of revenge flicks are Prometheus myths, and Prometheus gets punished at the end. My favorite Promethean tale isn't a revenge flick though. Catch Me If You Can is more fun, if you consider money a god.", "Psssht....those businesses are their payroll", "Because OCP owns the police", "This is well know in certain community’s. When they changed the $20 there is something in them that can be picked up by a special sensor-radar something. Look at border patrol stops. There is like 10 different cameras scanning you.", "Happens all the time actually!", "very odd they just deposit it straight into an account instead of holding it as evidence for... well any amount of time.", "Fuck you Nevada Highway Patrol.", "Literally drove past a checkpoint yesterday where the cops were randomly selecting cars to be stopped, pulled into a parking lot, and smog tested. Don’t have 20+ minutes to spare for this search? Too bad I guess.\n\nCompletely illegal stop and search under the constitution but there they are violating rights in plain daylight.", "I was pulled over once for \"driving like someone who doesn't want to be pulled over\". Which I'm fairly sure is not illegal or even reasonably suspicious. It's totally fine to want to get where I'm going without being interrupted. He ended up detaining me for an hour. Thankfully that's all that happened I'm sure it could've been much worse.", "Innocent until proven guilty, except sometimes the opposite.", "If forum moderators and grass-measuring HOA board members can get drunk on their infinitesimal iota of power, imagine the buzz that cops must feel every time they get to pull someone over and violate their constitutional rights with impunity.", "It doesn't matter what the law was intended to fight, if it's being used for this it needs to be abolished, full stop. There is no upside that can outweigh this, and there are other options vs its target.", "And there's yet another stumbling block for their search, since [the Supreme Court has ruled](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodriguez_v._United_States) against holding people just for a drug dog to show up.", "That's the trick your money doesn't have any constitutional protections. so it is not innocent until proven guilty.\n\nthey can just say it's drug money and it is until you prove it isnt.... \n\nand even then they're going to keep it.", "so, that Hispanic dude who lost his life saving's in the car twenty minutes behind this vet ... he's not a fighter and a loser because he had no popular press to help his case with a lawyer he couldn't afford?", "Fuck this cop, but I'm not a fan of the guy either. \n\n\"If this can happen to me - a combat veteran - it can happen to anyone.\"\n\nWhat does that have to do with anything? I mean, thanks...but what he did for a living has no bearing here. This is the kind of person who says shit like, \"If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear\" and actually believed it. \n\nOur cops are fucking corrupt. Full stop.", "Yup, then they bring in the \"drug\" dog who will slip a fart, and suddenly they have reasonable suspicion to search your car. It's a scam. They will get into your car if they want to. Cash is on lock down in this country. Moving any substantial amount of cash to or from your bank account takes real paperwork so the government is notified each time.", "Why does it matter that the person is a veteran?", "People need to realize that they do not have to answer any of the police questions, and should never agree to a search.", "I too am curious about this. I'm gonna say it was someone during the Reagan administration.", "Fuck every part of this.", "You can find anything suspicious if you want to. That cop is a dick.", "Yeah I just wanted as much meat in the grinder as possible for my own cathartic viewing pleasure, lol", "I hate movies with shitty endings, so thank you for saving me from watching this!", "A smog test is not a search, and there's nothing illegal about what you described.", "Why haven't these laws been challenged under the 4th amendment?", "I mean if getting 1.5% is depreciation, then what do you call just sitting on uninsured cash that gets 0% interest? \nI mean you can keep all your money in cash in your house if you want, and if your house burns down you lose it all. \nYou put it in a bank and that bank can get robbed, it can burn down, whatever. Your money is still safe tho. That's worth something.", "It’s just a tactic to make people care more about a story because sadly people just don’t seem to give a shit that this stuff is happening.", "Man, physical currency just seems so much better than crypto, doesn't it? /s", "Had to scroll way too far to find this comment. Put that money in a checking account with a reputable credit union to earn interest, and don't consent to searches!", "Keep your money in a bank or credit union. \nUse your banked money when you get where you are going.\nDo NOT carry more cash than you can afford to lose.", "\"Something tangible\" = \"I suspected narcotics\".\n\nProbable cause established.", "\"Why'd you pull me over?\"\n\n\"I'm not discussing my day.\"\n\n\"Am I being detained or am I free to go?\"\n\nAnd if you're being detained?\n\n\"I invoke the fifth\"\n\nAnd then you shut the fuck up.\n\n[Every day is shut the fuck up Friday](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkN4duV4ia0)", "For future reference, they can't detain you while they go get a dog. Refuse the search, ask if you're being detained or free to go, then leave when they say you aren't being detained.", "Wait a minute! There might be a legal precedent.\n\nOf course! Land-snatching! Land. La-land. \"See 'Snatch'.\"\n\nHaley vs. United States.\n\nHaley, seven. United States, nothing.\n\nYou see, it can be done.", "No, but neither is seizing suspected drug money until the situation can be investigated.", "That's why these right wing hypocrites are full of shit. They claim to love the Constitution but had no problem when due process was ignored and no issues with shitting all over the 4th amendment. They had no issue with TSA spending billions on a broken show, while looking at us naked. They didn't give a fuck when their political masters decided to listen to our calls, read our texts, look at our library activity and read our email. They'll happily throw all of it away so they can carry guns to massage their pathetic need for attention. Dumb fucks thinks free speech and guns is all they need. Stupid brain dead fucks.", "I feel like this is because of a societal issue in America. While the first and second amendment are perceived as maintaining your freedom, it seems many don't see the other extremely important amendments pertaining to due process and court as such, I also think this has something to do with how our society views criminals. It seems almost taboo to say that those in prison and people going through the court process (guilty or not) do deserve to still have rights (I have my own moral exceptions to this- but that's unimportant).\n\nFyodor Dostoyevsky said it best. \"A society should be judged not by how it treats its outstanding citizens but by how it treats its criminals\"", "They're not legally allowed to wait for the dog if they don't already have enough \"reasonable suspicion\" to search the car.", "Why is the first reaction by some dumbfuck nevada trooper to call the DEA agent? He had no fucking drugs whatsoever. It's not the DEA's job to regulate how much cash you carry OR THE FUCKING COPS.", "Better invest in an index fund or in property.", "No, its wrong. Its not \"innocent until proven guilty\" its \"anyone carrying cash over 10k is a drug dealer.\"\n\nThis is basically \"stop and frisk\" times 10k, they treat that guy like a criminal despite having no evidence of a crime (even carrying 10k isnt a crime). \n\nThe police should be forced to actually find evidence of a crime being committed first.", "Also means that we can't limit the amount they contribute to politicians...because they are people and they have a right to free speech. Ugh.", "Look at what justification they used to say the money was associated with drugs... They just bring out the dogs and say \"oh positive alert\" and boom they have 'probably cause'. It's bullshit.\n\nSaying you don't consent to the search is just going to prolong the inevitable in cases like this. I don't think if this guy in the video said \"I don't consent to a search\", the cop would just say \"ok yeah fair enough, have a good one\"...", "Context? I watched the movie years ago, so please go ahead and include spoilers.", "This is why I have about $10K in prop money stashed in the trunk of my car. It looks really convincing if you don't notice the puns in the mottos and \"For Motion Picture Use Only\" my suspicion is that they'd be so pleased with themselves that they wouldn't notice until I was long gone.\n\nThe legit reason I buy the stuff is for my game night briefcase, it has prop cash, costume jewelry, velvet bags of fake gems, old timey stock certificates/land titles and a bag of fake dubloons. Makes game night a lot more fun.", "John Oliver did an episode on civil forfeiture in the U.S. years back and ever since then I have refused to travel to any state that still allows it. I don't ever want to go to a place where the police have the legal right to rob you if they feel like it.", "Why does him being a veteran have anything to do with it?", "Just say it's for political donations. Watch how fast they step away from that one", "People like to say the police don't have quotas as if that means police don't write frivolous tickets or set people up for tickets. They may not have an official quota but I bet they get a lot of grief if they have less tickets than everyone else like how other jobs give underperformers a hard time.", "I think it's alluring to being a vet and serving your country doesn't mean your county serves you. That would be my uneducated guess.", "It's not really, but everyone loves to treat veterans like they're special.", "This. If they really wanted to get into your shit they will find a way. Either way it's alway way more inconvenient for the person getting pulled over. They are on the clock getting paid for this behavior.", "Honestly, the FDIC only works so long as the government of the US is solvent and exists as the government. \n\nThere was an attempted coup a year ago that very nearly succeeded. \n\nThe government now regularly flirts with defaulting on the debt, and has for half a decade now.\n\nI think Americans are still in denial about how unstable things really are, and how far the death spiral they have already fallen. \n\nFull disclosure: I moved from the US to the UK in 2019. The UK has problems, sure, but I don't worry that BoJo the clown will run a coup of he loses an election", "it seemed that first cop was too afraid to say he didn't think it was drug proceeds. \n\n\nsorry this happened to this Vet, he didn't trust the banks but unknowingly put more faith into the justice system that failed him.", "None, so I don't do cross-country road trips with bags of cash.", "Why make it easy for them to rob you?", "Especially in a rental car, jeez. Do you check every nook and cranny and interior panel of every rental car you get in? Who knows what the person before you might have left in there.", "And FILM EVERYTHING", "should the focus not be on the courts and officers to prove the money is illegal before they just take it? isn't this backwards - they can take it on a hunch and assume guilt until innocence is proven by the victim?", "this depends a lot on where you are. in most states merely driving a strange speed on it's own is not cause for a legal traffic stop. it has to be in conjunction with other driving behaviors that can lead to articulable suspicion of driving under the influence, or being a major safety hazard on the road. \n\nand it is insane just how different these laws can be for states right next to each other.", "Its definitely a regular tactic they use. I got pulled over in South Carolina on I-95 for this same exact thing. And he asked me 3 times if I had drugs in the car. Guess he thought i was trafficking from FL. Then he wrote me a warning for following too close to the truck in front. I told him I was waiting for him to pass and he said \"I know\". They have to be training them to do this bullshit so they can have \"probable cause\" to pull people over they suspect of something.", "And in some cases, off duty as well", "I do not condone civil forfeiture at all, but as a Dutchman where we do what you say: that's not the holy grail either. It means most convicted criminals get to keep most of their wealth since it has to be linked to a crime by the prosecution in order to seize it. It meams crime, especially white-collar crime, remains quite lucrative.", "When did I say you should?", "The dogs alerted on the cash? \n\nYou mean their handler made them alert on the cash.", "So, pray tell, was the illicit practice this guys money came from? Oh yeah, nothing.\n\nYou need to prove the money is a result of crime before being \"intellectually honest\" about it. \n\nIve bought vehicles in cash before and could have had this happen to me (nothing close to these amounts but hitting that magic 10k)", "I guess so, although we shouldn’t because it’s an absolutely retarded legal interpretation. If anyone who actually drafted the fourth amendment heard about civil (or uncivilized) forfeiture their reaction would be something along the lines of: “How on God’s green earth could we have been any more clear that this is unconstitutional? This is exactly what we were trying to prevent!”", "Didn't they also classify international airports as borders to get the rest of the country under that rule?", "Blazing Saddles is amazing", "> the police and all the cops that want to use it to pad their resume. \n\nIt's not just to pad their resume - [the money often gets put into police department budgets](https://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/investigative/2014/10/11/asset-seizures-fuel-police-spending/), funding the increasing militarization of police in the US.", "Border OR airport. It's absolutely bonkers.", "Feel bad for the dude for what happened, but having that much cash in a car is crazy. And his only reason is that he doesn't trust the banks, which is even crazier.", "I don't understand how LEOs can ask something like \"Do you have any cash on you?\". It's not illegal to have cash, even large amounts of it, so it's none of their Damn business.", "As should qualified immunity", "You need to wrap that gavel up, B", "You can't put a price on an opportunity to abuse your power though.", "Correct; It would encompass the issue while addressing the other shitty policies that come with the war on drugs. Don't just put a bandaid on vascular trauma.", "Many corporations have committed and plead guilty (at the behest and benefit of their heads) enough felonies that they should be sentenced to life without parole several times over.", "Call me a complete ass then. I saw right through that facade after the second pointless question not related to the traffic stop. I would've kept my mouth shut.", "That requires you to know that, the cop to know that, you to stand up to the cop, and the cop to respect your rights. \n\nOtherwise your still fucked at the moment but can fight it off after spending a shitton of time and money.", "So what is the proper procedure to carry cash with you that won't end up getting it seized?\n\nThe man had receipts", "you don't have to wait for a canine unit. pretty sure the supreme court nixed that", "And none of what you say is solved by holding cash either....", "They weren't looking for cash.", "Thanks for your counter argument. Very informative.", "Spooky stuff.\n\nQuestion, if he had said \"No\" to the question can I search your car would he have been in trouble?", "Shit, since when?!", "In America, Attorney’s fees can be and are awarded in some scenarios, but I don’t know whether they were in this case.\n\nI will say that it seems obvious they should be included, from a torts perspective, but since so many civil lawyers work on contingency, the judge might’ve thought handing over 133% of the recovered money was too punitive? Idk.", "\"Good afternoon, Officer\"\n\n\"I will retrieve my license and registration for you.\"\n\n\"I wish not to comment about my day/ diving.\"\n\n\"Am I free to go?\"\n\n\"Good afternoon, Officer\"\n\nPast this, you're in adlib danger. I've talked myself out of a ticket before, but it is very tricky explaining how what you did is indeed in line with the law.", "This happens in America. Imagine what happens in countries with more corruption and worse legal systems.\n\nSay what you want about Bitcoin, but it's the first asset that's unconfiscatable, and that property alone makes it valuable to a lot of people.", "I love this talk about not speaking to the cops: https://youtu.be/d-7o9xYp7eE", "Yeah for sure and now he's going to question the police anytime him interacts with them from now on. Then the police wonder why he's not answering questions in future interactions.", "You're not paying attention are you. Civil Forfeiture almost never leads to innocent people getting their money back. In this case the guy had receipts for the cash with him. Everything showed that he was not involved in any crime. Maybe you are into treating everyone like a criminal until proven innocent, but any thinking person knows that's bullshit.", "Tell me about highway robbery.", "Post-conviction would be acceptable to me", "So you leave and they arrest you for fleeing, or they shoot you for fleeing.", "Technically they can't make you wait for the dog. That really only helps you after the fact when they force you to wait for the dog", "Were all the cops involved arrested?", "I gaurantee you the cops in this video feel like all the thanks are coming their way to. Thanks for being a pos cop.", "Timbs v Indiana actually took a lot of the teeth out of civil asset forfeiture. It still happens, but there is a clear cut constitutional defense against it.", "> But it must be used appropriately.\n\nWhich, like so many other cases, they are unable or unwilling to do.", "Forfeiture was intended for taking large amounts of cash from organized crime.. Not law abiding normal people. Shit needs to be abolished yesterday.", "Thieving fucks. I get asset forfeiture but at least convict them of a fucking crime. John Oliver did an episode about this.", "In terms of the video, it's a narrative tool utilizing the trope of peoples patriotism to build a quicker emotional attachment to the victim.\n\nThere's a large enough population of people who influence the continuation of policies like this who will think having that much money outside of a bank is weird and will back up the police for stealing it because they assume someone must be up to have that much money and for the police to take it. Identifying him as a veteran disrupts their blanketed criminalization of the behavior they don't understand and their default position that everyone involved in a police interaction must be a bad person in some way and deserves what they got.", "Well, yeah, we have to deal with bullshit like this, but the U.S. is the only free country in the world... hang on, I'm getting a call...\n\n\"Wait... WHAT???!?!?!?\"", "\"This... Tetrodotoxin. Should be nicely into your system by now. Isolated from the liver of a Caribbean Puffer Fish. So, it paralyzes you, and leaves all the other neurological functions perfectly intact. In other words, you can't move, but you feel everything. It does absolutely nothing to blunt the pain. And you're about to experience more of that, than you could ever fucking imagine\"", "US v. Twenty… I mean… Ten Thousand Dollars. Wait no, it was only five.", "LOL, exactly", "Because the big businesses don't have all of their money in cash form. It's much harder to ~~steal~~ seize when it's in a bank or electronic", ">For normal people it would be called murder. So saying no to police sounds risky in a shithole country where police can do almost what they want with you.\n\nWhile that's also horrifying, that's a different scenario. You do NOT have to consent to search unless they have a warrant. If a police officer asks you to search the car firmly, calmly, say \"I do not consent to being searched\". If they want to go in front of a judge and get a warrant, let them.", "There's some dumb rule where they aren't allowed to confiscate it, but the DEA can, then they split the proceeds. Don't know if it applies in this case but i remember reading about how some police are avoiding the restrictions placed on them over cash confiscations by this technicality.", "If you had the money for proper representation and fought it to a head, you would win. The media didn't fix his case for him, it was his diligence in combatting the injustice done to him on top of his financial ability to keep up the fight.\n\nThe dude works oil-field and made enough money in 6 months to bring heat to the agencies involved that made his case not worth it, so they settled. \n\nAgain, being a vet has nothing to do with his success. They are equal opportunity fuckers.", "It doesn't even need to be cash - they're now stealing people's money straight from their debit cards. - \n\nhttps://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2016/07/02/483394735/device-lets-police-seize-digital-cash-raises-civil-liberties-concerns", "A) It's fucking insane to drive around with that amount of cash. Even if you don't trust banks, that's a shitload of money to just in your car.\n\nB) The cops fucking sucked at this. He had to sue for his money and got it back, but what about those that aren't as good with their tracking of their money? What about those of us that do some work on the side and make a few bucks that the IRS doesn't know about? \n\nC) The way the system works is fucked. This is why people are pissed off at law enforcement across the nation. We need to fix these systemic issues and this is why defund the police is such a hard push, because of shit like this.", "But in this drastic scenario you've set up, the value of said dollars you keep out of the bank would absolutely tank anyways. If society becomes so unstable that it's collapsing as you say, then those dollars would likely become quite worthless too. The only thing you could really do to prevent this would be having that money in other assets or gold or something.", "Hush, reddit is for angry dweebs that don't know anything in particular. You're causing them anguish by having them think for a moment.", "Don't trust the banks? Well, we'll show you", "So? What are you gonna do? Floor it? And have them think you’re escaping? Fuck that.", "Under capitalism banks suck but also under capitalism its far more risky to carry large amounts of cash. Ultimately capitalist society is the issue that allows this nonsense but until we fix it dont be a moron like this guy", "> This isn't rhetorical, how is asset forfeiture constitutional in a country where money is considered free speech?\n\nAh, see the trick is to charge the money with attempting to commit a crime. Money doesn't have any rights and it's owner who does is never charged with anything.\n\nWhen someone spends money, they are exercising their right to free speech, not the money's right.\n\nIt's nothing but a tortured legal end-run around the protections afforded citizens.", "> The problem with this guy was being honest and having nothing to hide.\n\nI would argue that the problem is that the law, as it's currently written, favors individuals for being dishonest with things to hide. \nShouldn't have to go out of your way to make police's job harder.", "It's not crazy to not trust financial institutions if you're familiar with their history of abusing the public and outright corruption. That being said a relatively paltry sum of $86,000 is easily covered by the FDIC if one is concerned with the possibility of insolvency.", "That's why, when dealing with the cops, you always shut the fuck up. Never give consent. Do not answer any questions. Do not give them anything to make a case against you, whether you are guilty of an offense or not. Record the encounter, and stay respectful.\n\nAnd shut the fuck up. \n\n\n[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkN4duV4ia0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkN4duV4ia0)", "Seriously. What the cops did is obviously utterly reprehensible and should be illegal.\n\nBUT - who drives around with their entire life savings in cash in a rental car? What the fuck? What if you're in a car accident where you're incapacitated and someone pulls you out of your car and your money just burns up in the wreck? What if you get robbed by someone who isn't the police with zero chance of ever getting your money back? That guy is an absolute idiot.", "As a citizen, I didn't get that part of the video and curious why now two cops find that suspicious. He was driving behind a slow truck, so he went to pass them. How is this extremely common situation now suspicious to cops? Sounds like a bullshit excuse to pull someone over and find other \"suspicious\" shit.", "\"We're going to call in a canine\"\n\n\"Am I being detained?\"\n\n\"No\"\n\n\"byeeeeeeeeeee\"\n\nif they say yes, demand to know why. demand it in writing. demand it on-camera", "Fighting cops is, historically speaking, a bad idea.", "Not entirely accurate. They can still hold for a dog if they have reasonable articulable suspicion that there is criminal activity occurring. \n\nThe ruling said that without specific separate suspicion of the criminal conduct separate from the traffic violation, you cannot hold.", "The law says that they money is being seized for suspicion of a crime, not the person who has it. It's an end-run around unlawful search and seizure. You aren't being detained, the money is.", "Cops are just gang members in society approved uniforms", "FUCK THE POLICE", "Exactly. Toss three bags of dirt out there with the cash and I bet the dog alerts on the first bag it sees.", "It's how the government gets funded. What you don't like roads teachers and hospitals?", "The whole space is such a meme now, but back in the day a ton people who were interested in Bitcoin were crypto-anarchists. I'm sure many will call me naive but I was that perfect age of just having graduated college and working a real job and mainlining news constantly, so seeing a lot of civil-asset forfeiture shit like this also kinda pushed me over the edge into researching keeping some portion of my investments as crypto. \n\nDamn the man.", "well I mean yes to all of this but....interest? I guess 2 bucks a month is something", "Only in the US is driving under the speed limit considered an issue...\n\nThis is just straight up state sponsored theft. This is just disturbing and I'm literally speechless. Now he has to spend thousands just to get his original money back, what the fuck.", "US. V. Rodriguez 2014/15 case. \n\nhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodriguez_v._United_States", "[Rodriguez v. United States](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodriguez_v._United_States) \n \n >Rodriguez v. United States, 575 U.S. 348 (2015), was a United States Supreme Court case which analyzed whether police officers may extend the length of a traffic stop to conduct a search with a trained detection dog. In a 6–3 opinion, the Court held that officers may not extend the length of a traffic stop to conduct a dog sniff unrelated to the original purpose of the stop. However, the Court remanded the case to the United States Court of Appeals for the Eighth Circuit to determine whether the officer's extension of the traffic stop was independently justified by reasonable suspicion.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( \| )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( \| )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( \| )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove \| v1.5)", "Desktop version of /u/swmp40's link: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodriguez_v._United_States>\n\n --- \n\n ^([)[^(opt out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiMobileLinkBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^(]) ^(Beep Boop. Downvote to delete)", "Violence is not the answer. Violence is the question. The answer is yes.", "He was just passing through Nevada, he appears to be from Texas and was visiting family in California.", "Money is guilty until proven innocent because of asinine drug laws. The whole idea that you can't carry more than $10,000 cash is crazy dumb.", "So drug Kingpins, or Wall Street scammers should be able to keep all of their money?", "Get rid of qualified immunity. Sue them. Go after their pensions.", ">Yeah isn't it innocent until proven guilty?\n\nHAH! in the US?", "If a smog test is to be passed at time of registration/inspection, then that covers it. There is zero reason to stop people for smog tests when the registration/inspection system is designed to catch those in the first place.", "Yes, but we can be less harsh about it. I am sure he's had issues before that made not using a bank a top priority, but that doesn't mean he's an idiot. Education and access to a credit union.", "Nothing can help you in that situation - all you can hope for is to survive the encounter and later beat them in court.", "Nope. As he admitted to him, it's not a crime. At that point, he could have asked if he was free to go, or if he was under arrest, and they would have been compelled to arrest him on some charge (which there was none) or let him go.\n\nAs soon as the cop started his 'I'm just here to tell you...' he could have asked 'am I free to go?'. And should have done so.", "at least it brings attention to this issue", "While I do agree with your point, and some involved in disseminating the story will lean on it for the wrong reasons, there is the valid point that if the cops don't even have respect for someone who served their country then that bodes even worse well for anyone who can't display those bona fides. \n\nThe cops are often closely aligned with the military, both in their mission and many in their ranks moved to that profession after serving. You would assume a certain comradery there (even if that is a bullshit reason to give someone a pass). So if they are still like \"meh, semper fi, but I don't give a shit, I'm taking your money\" then what hope do people who can't even appeal to that have?", "The 'Comprehensive Forfeiture Act' was introduced by Senator Joe Biden in 1983.\n\nhttps://www.congress.gov/bill/98th-congress/senate-bill/948/all-info", "How, pray tell, are you going to do that without involving a bank?", "See above.", "Civil asset forfeiture is a violation of the 4th and 5th amendments - that SCOTUS hasn't upheld that is obscene.", "That's fair.", "I wonder if anybody has tried using that argument to recover their cash? If using money is a form of speech, then wouldn’t civil asset forfeiture be a violation of the First Amendment?", "What a weird thing to say\n\nThank you white saviors here for making sure you voice minority opinion for them. 👏👏👏", "What’s stopping a cop from claiming you’re weaving in and out of the driving lane?", "never ever tell the cops how much money you have. its none their business.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nthe answer to any question is: I dont answer questions without a lawyer present. period. end of story.", "This, on its own, is a good reason as to why I feel that people should educate themselves about crypto currency", "Fucking hell, America is a shithole.", "you must be white", ">The problem with this guy was being honest and having nothing to hide.\n\nThis is what makes me angry. This guy was completely truthful and forthcoming to the officer, and turns out bad for him. Then police will wonder why people don't want to cooperate with them...", "This is why you a) never answer police questions other than IDing yourself and b) never ever ever give consent to search. He would have been on his way with 87k if he just shut the fuck up.", "Why must he put his money in a bank? This is a non issue if we don’t allow cops to be who they are", "Free speech does not cover crimes, if the money is proceeds/part of a crime, it can be seized.\n\nWhich is fair, actual criminals have their assets frozen/seized all the time. The problem is that under civil forfeiture, the cops don't need proof that what they seized is the proceeds/part of a crime. And then they don't return it.", "This is dumb as fuck, the lefts leadership literally voted for a bunch of this shit too. I mean the body scanners in airports you want to go on a rant about were installed in 2010 under Obama, and the NSA scandals, drone strikes, everything else did too. This notion that one side is morally righteous and the other is a villain is asinine. It's truly just the people versus the corrupt government, because whatever puppet installed whether democrat or republican, is just that, a puppet.", "You don't carry that kind of cash at all, you put it in a bank and transfer it electronically.", "Also make sure you're skin color is pale/white when you do this", "Aha! Thank you for looking that up.", "I've watched this before and it is a fascinating video. Every US citizen should watch it, it's that important.", "All of those cops should be fired.", "Which nearly everyone would do, regardless of how slow they ended up going. Not to mention I can't tell you the number of times I've suddenly found myself \"trailing too close to the car in front of me\" in heavy traffic precisely because they, or the people in front of them, saw a cop parked further up the road and immediately slowed down for it, whether they were speeding or not. This whole thing is infuriating!", "The Supreme Court has ruled that they cannot called a dog in to create probable cause. If they don't have a reason to search the vehicle and you do not give them permission, they are not allowed to delay you to make probable cause.\n\nhttps://www.americanbar.org/groups/litigation/committees/young-advocates/practice/2015/scotus-traffic-stop-prolonged-for-dog-sniff-violates-fourth-amendment/", "They had all the reason to take the cash. Nobody will get reprimanded and nobody will face any consequences for fucking over this person. If anything, they get congratulated because they just brought in thousands of extra cash for the department.\n\nA police department is incentivized to steal it, essentially gets to keep a portion of it, aren't responsible for handling it so they won't even deal with the victim afterwards, and when a victim does have the means to spend more money and time getting the property back they have gone on and done the same thing to several other people.", ">I don't worry that BoJo the clown will run a coup of he loses an election\n\nI mean he did shut parliament down in order to avoid scrutiny of Brexit deal, which turned out to be a literal suitcase full of turds. \n\nActual coup, probably not, but too many politicians have learnt from trump.", "Very good point!", "It's not though.", "The way the cop is just rubbing his hands together in anticipation as he's asking the guy how much money is in the car\n\nThat's comic book villain shit", "Guilty (but also not guilty because a jury of my peers is less likely to find me guilty compared to a black person with the same charge)\n\nI sorta joke, but racial discrimination is a serious problem", "yeah its about 20 mins they have to get a dog on scene. beyond that and you have a good chance to get the search thrown out", "Well that's good to hear. Wish they had ruled that way before it happened to me when I was 19.", "Assert your rights, refuse to give consent, stand by and watch them rip your car apart on the side of the road, and rest comfortably knowing that anything illegal they find (or plant) is inadmissible as evidence due to illegal search and seizure.", "I didn't realize possessing cash was illegal. TIL.", "\"Am I free to leave?\" \n\"I don't consent to a search.\"\n\n\"Am I being detained?\" \nThen you either get to leave or STFU \n\n\nNothing you say to a LEO can possibly help the situation you are in. Any preconceived notion will remain and you can ONLY talk yourself into more trouble. \n\nhttps://www.halt.org/am-i-being-detained-6-questions-you-should-ask-during-interactions-with-the-police/", ">\"I don't trust banks, so I keep my own money,\" Lara responded when asked why. \n\nWell that's his first mistake\n\n>He then gave the officer permission to search his car.\n\nAnd that's his second.", "i will always remember that feingold voted against and was sacked for it.", "Fuck the police?", "This is called \"civil asset forfeiture\" and Americans lose more money and property this way than from burglary.", "\"in 1999, the Supreme Court ruled that civil forfeiture was not permitted if the amount seized was \"grossly disproportional\" to the gravity of the offense.\" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_forfeiture_in_the_United_States \n\nGiven that in many cases there are no actual offenses, there is some fixing to do.", "[Civil forfeiture in the United States](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_forfeiture_in_the_United_States) \n \n >Civil forfeiture in the United States, also called civil asset forfeiture or civil judicial forfeiture, is a process in which law enforcement officers take assets from persons suspected of involvement with crime or illegal activity without necessarily charging the owners with wrongdoing. While civil procedure, as opposed to criminal procedure, generally involves a dispute between two private citizens, civil forfeiture involves a dispute between law enforcement and property such as a pile of cash or a house or a boat, such that the thing is suspected of being involved in a crime.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( \| )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( \| )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( \| )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove \| v1.5)", "And, if you actually get hauled in... much like D'Angelo Barksdale during his second time being brought in for questioning, after fucking up badly the first time, you respond to every question with the same answer:\n\n\"Lawyer\"", "Since they said most money in America has trace amounts of cocaine on it I don’t see a problem. Sorry big business but all your money is drug money.", "> since carrying large amounts of cash seems to be a crime in America.\n\nIt's not a crime, and the cop admitted that during the stop.", ">very nearly succeeded \n\nIt really didn't at all. The US government is much more than one building.", "No. Fuck that. You want to keep the money, you can get a warrant, file charges, and win a conviction. Short of that, the only way you get to keep the money is if \"The Mule\" disavows ownership of it. \n\nThe proper investigatory approach is for the officer discovering the cash to report that discovery to the IRS. They can audit the individual to determine if they are complying with the tax code.", "Also, in most countries they wouldn't just be returning the money. They would be required to return the money + interest.", "Innocent until proven guilty is about as real as the American dream.", "there was video on front page a few days ago where the driver had everything on camera and asked if they were being detained. the officer said yes but wouldn't give them an actual reason. officer said the driver was becoming a threat for demanding an answer. then you're stuck in the same situation as u/mistercrinders said, you try to drive off and they arrest you for fleeing, or they shoot you for fleeing, or you become subject to an unlawful search of your car.\n\nofficers can basically justify all of their action in the moment and knowing your rights doesn't help if the other party doesn't play by the rules\n\nEDIT: [found the original video i'm refering to on tiktok](https://www.tiktok.com/@tracery90/video/7022684420314320133), idk where the reddit post went though", "Theft should be a crime…even when it’s state sponsored.", "Cops are not going to outright say you aren’t being detained. They will say “we just wanna talk” and then they’ll take your rebuttals as defiance and they’ll straight up lie to get something out of you. Good luck if you’re anything but white too.", "To be fair, if it does happen to you, you pretty much have to fight it in court. Which is it's own set of problems.", "> The problem with this guy was being honest and having nothing to hide.\n\nBeing honest and having nothing to hide are not the same thing, as this incident clearly illustrates.\n\n>[“Cheery was aware that Commander Vimes didn't like the phrase 'The innocent have nothing to fear', believing the innocent had everything to fear, mostly from the guilty but in the longer term even more from those who say things like 'The innocent have nothing to fear'.” ](https://wiki.lspace.org/Book:Snuff)", "These \"cops\" are actually CRIMINALS!", "The point is that a different person, one who doesn’t carry a label that will look good in a headline, could also be a fighter and have no chance of getting their money back. You can’t seriously be doubting that the media attention served to help him in his fight, can you?", "It helps. but not a requirement. \n\n\nYou need to be respectful, but do not reveal anything. you need to shut the fuck up. do not provide consent, and record the entire encounter. When they demand you do to something, you must comply, even if you know it's illegal, just make sure its recorded. Don't give them a reason or justification. and know your rights but don't try to lecture them on it. \n\n\nChances are they'll either let you go or do something stupid or illegal trying to force the issue. then you can have your day in court. But in order to get that day in court, you need to be alive. So comply without giving consent. \n\n\nIt would be nice if POC didn't have to walk on such eggshells around police, and that's a change that needs to happen, but until that happens, this is the sad reality, and police encounters must be navigated through safely.", "names and badge numbers.", "But you don't get the choice to wait for a lawyer to arrive. Police can search your vehicle without your permission if they have probable cause, feel it's for their own protection or have been arrested and the search is related to that arrest.", "You should have refused the search. Don't make that mistake again.", "80s Biden was kind of a dick.", "oh yeah, you say \"no\" and they will just: \"ok, bye bye than, have a nice afternoon\"...", "It's not that bad though. It's not like they are for profit or a private group.", "That's the equivalent of saying: \"I did not murder the guy! The bullet did!\"...", "I thought money was speech? /s", "I keep hoping that one day a pile of money will sue for defamation of character.", "With these cases you get bizarre court filins often, I've read, like The United States v $20,000 cash", "Yes", "If the officer was creating the situation where you broke the law, and he knew that's what he was doing, and knew that you wouldn't have broken the law except for his actions?\n\nThat might actually be entrapment.", "But if you are a corporation, then money is free speech. Become a corporation and they can't take away your bags of free speech. Checkmate cops.", "If the dog is not on site, they can not legally detain you to wait for it. Just spreading the knowledge. It's the law.", "Clyde was originally supposed to win and kill everyone on his list, but Jaime Foxx wanted his character Nick to win, because reasons.", "Than they would find any excuse to search the car and have him arrested when they found the money.", "I said ‘give permission’.\n\nEdit: [listen to what they say here](https://youtu.be/V6tfEZI54Jg)", "Well you said no so I have probable cause because you said no.\n-dumb shit cops", "I posted this to an earlier comment but I agree 100%. And, I can't tell you the number of times I've suddenly found myself \"trailing too close to the car in front of me\" in heavy traffic precisely because that driver, or the people in front of them, saw a cop parked further up the road and immediately slowed down for it, whether they were initially speeding or not. This whole thing is infuriating!", "i love how people say this country is free...", "America! Fuck yeah!", "Cops are fucking trash. If you are a cop, you are part of the problem. A giant fuck you to you and yours.", "LOL were any? Are any ever?", "Lol and happily be on your way in your completely torn apart car.", "Can someone advise if the person should have said \"no, you do not have permission to search my backpack?\" It is never clear to me of that is a viable option.", "Against which? And was he truly sacked if he just wasn't reelected?", "\"He consented. No I don't know what happened to the dash cam footage.\"", "This isn't overzealousness. They aren't just that excited and amped up to get out there, enforce the law, and fight crime.\n\nThey're out there *committing* the crime.", "He wouldn't have had to wait the six months to sue then at least.", "I didn't get charged with anything crazy and everything ended up getting dismissed at the arraignment hearing so it's water under the bridge. It was a super obnoxious situation, though...a precinct in my hometown that's known for doing next to nothing about real crime and instead spend most of their time shaking down kids for marijuana and underage booze possession...", "Participating in a corrupt system for your own gain is also corrupt, yes", "And in a county that says property shall not be deprived without due process.", "How has this never been challenged in court?\n\nOh...wait...Bootlicking republicans. Can't expect more from a party of either rich assholes or stupid poor people. When poor people vote republican, this is exactly what's meant by voting against your own interests...", "Correct me if I'm wrong but at least in theory they have to, right?", "Yeah, if this was like, Jeremiah who works at a car wash, the story wouldn’t have headlined, and he’d have been fucked.", "fat lot of good it does when your charges are dismissed but your car is destroyed and in pieces, you missed work, and some of the money or other items they confiscated \"disappear\". sadly your rights mean nothing in the face of police officers and their lack of accountability.", "\"This Highway Robbery must end...\"\n\nIt's LITERALLY Highway Robbery. They robbed this man on the Highway.\n\nMistake 1: Talked to the Cops.\n\nMistake 2: Answered questions when the cops asked them.\n\nMistake 3: Consented to a search.\n\nMistake 4: Actually kept talking to the fucking cops.\n\nPeople: Cops are not your friends. They are NOT looking after your best interests. They are not your buddies, they are not your public servants. They are tasked and trained to punish regular people for perceived violations of the law. Not enforce, but punish. This is shown time and time again.\n\nYou can beat the rap, but you can't beat the ride.\n\nWhen you're pulled over, be polite but firm. Don't talk to cops. Know your rights, comply where required, but do NOT offer information. \n\nCop asks: \"Do you know how fast you were going?\"\n\nAnswer: \"I don't answer questions without a lawyer present\"\n\nCop: \"Why are you being hostile?\"\n\nAnswer: \"I'm not hostile, I just don't answer questions without a lawyer present\"\n\nCop: \"What are you hiding?\"\n\nAnswer: \"I'm not hiding anything, I just don't answer questions without a lawyer present\"\n\nCop: Do you know what time it is?\n\nAnswer: \"I don't answer questions without a lawyer present\"\n\nYou: \"Am I free to go?\"\n\nCop: \"No\"\n\nYou: \"Okay\"\n\nCop: \"Why are you being difficult?\"\n\nAnswer: \"I'm not being difficult, I don't answer questions without a lawyer present. Am I free to go?\"\n\nCop: \"No, I'm detaining you. I'm going to search you/your car\"\n\nAnswer: \"I don't consent to any searches. Am I free to go?\"\n\nCop: \"No.\"\n\nYou: \"Okay.\" <Continue to sit silently ask if your free to go every few minutes. DON'T ANSWER QUESTIONS!>\n\nYou'll lose either 30 minutes of your day, and move on with your life, or maybe the guy decides to arrest you on trumped up charges, you go home the next morning, find a lawyer and sue for wrongful prosecution.\n\nEither way, you are fucked until you're let go.", "It's going to happen either way, if the cops are so inclined. If you consent everything (including a plant) will stick.", "Then what crime is it committing? What is money that has trace amounts of cocaine on it going to do with the said trace amounts of cocaine? It's not like cash can get high.", "> I mean the body scanners in airports you want to go on a rant about were installed in 2010 under Obama\n\nThe TSA shitshow was created November 2001. I'm happy to point fingers at Obama for not dissolving it, but that train was already at full speed when he took office.\n\nAgreed with the other parts of your comment though.\n\n>This notion that one side is morally righteous and the other is a villain is asinine.\n\nNo, but one side is just crummy while the other is an actual villain. Let's not pretend that they're equal.", "This is where the question \"Am I being detained?\" and filming your interaction is recommended. If they say yes, you ask for what reason. If they provide you with a reason, then, under the presumption that their reasoning would not hold up in court, you now have them breaking the law on camera. If they cannot provide a reason, you ask \"Am I free to go?\" If they say yes, get out of there. If they say no, then you have an unlawful detainment on camera.", "Actually by doing that he avoided being beated and arrested. They would just search the car anyway as saying \"no\" would make him even more suspecious by their point of view.", "People will get treated differently based on their gender/race? As a white male our chances of having cops mess with us is alot lower than if we had a different background. What's weird about stating that?", ">\tthe one worth thanking\n\nMy favorite typo today.", "once again depending greatly on location and department, the dash cam on their squad car.", "Cops seized money they \"thought\" was drug related, and you somehow construed that to be the fault of capitalism instead of the cops....\n\nImpressively dumb", "Civil asset forfeiture has no place in policing. That money can be taken from an individual only with the individual's consent, or in compliance with the 4th and 5th amendments. Take your probable cause to a judge, get a warrant. Arraign the defendant within 48 hours, or return the money. If arraigned, provide a speedy trial, or return the money. Win a conviction, or return the money. \n\nHorseshit like Civil Asset Forfeiture is exactly why the 4th amendment was created in the first place.", "[Check out this Audit the Audit](https://youtu.be/H-wztUET0Fw) where police interactions are evaluated for legality. Driving slowly isn't illegal and the guy likely didn't even need to get out of his vehicle.", "So.. dont carry cash. Cash is unsecured. Theives can easily steal cash as this video demonstrates. These are highway robbers. Put money in a bank or credit union. If you need the money, you can draw it out anywhere. If you need it for a major purchase, you can wire transfer it. There are exceedingly few legal transactions that can't be accomplished with a wire transfer.", "You are correct in theory they must have a reason. The reason can be defined by them almost anyway they want so in practice no they do not have to have a reason.", "And the only recourse is to bend over and hope it doesn't hurt too much, and pray that you can afford a lawyer and get a trial in front of a fair judge.\n\nThe only solution is to have better cops and actual punishment for cops thast do bad things. But we all know how well that works.", "Yeah but the supreme court only decided this in 2015. It's possible his story happened before then, in which case he was SOL. And even today, you still might be SOL since odds are the cops don't know the law and might continue detaining you illegally anyways.", "Watch the video. The local police dept. would wind up getting up to 80% of the \"proceeds\" (in this case they said 70%). The rest stays with the feds. The get the feds involved so they can avoid pesky state or local laws that prohibit this sort of trickery. It's truly mind boggling how crafty and evil this plot is.", "> If a police officer asks you to search the car firmly, calmly, say \"I do not consent to being searched\".\n\nI think the reason he brought up the wheelchair murder is to illustrate the fact that cops can do whatever they want to you while they’re on duty\n\nCops can search your car if they wanted to, doesnt matter if they are doing so illegally, you’d have to convince a cop that actually cares about the law that they’re in the wrong and that they should stop searching your car, but if they don’t care at all what are you gonna do? Flee? Physically prevent them from searching your car?\n\nOf course you can later sue them in court (the only place the law actually matters) but it doesnt change the fact that cops can do whatever the fuck they want in the meantime, you are completely at their mercy and when they eventually lose the court case for violating your rights (whether intentionally or not) then they get a slap on the wrist.", "\"Now, we can do this the easy way or the hard way.\"\n\n\"*Can I go now?\"\n\n^^'#AmIBeingDetained'", "What if there is no dog nearby? What if they are just fishing and can't be assed? What if they get an emergency call? What if a judge throws the bullshit PC out and gives them a bollocking? Why not take your chances", "Never answer questions.", "Always & Forever", "Then they just bring the dog in and \"get a hit\"", "That isn’t going to help you in the moment. Sure you can argue that in court, but it’s not gonna stop the dog from magically alerting on your car or keep any cash from being stolen.\n\nIt’s great that you could use it in court, but it means nothing on the side of a highway when grownup Cartman is flexing his authoritah", "You, some poor schmuck just trying to get to your Night Shift job is gonna put up a fight against Cops? Just did a google search for “cops lose civil forfeiture case” and the only results that pop up are police successfully stealing from innocent citizens and only when public pressure and awareness is brought to the forefront do the cops decide to give it back. No repercussions, no consequences. No one fired. Nothing.", "For a dude that just got robbed by the police, he's cool as a cucumber. \n\n\nIt's unbelievable what they do to people.", "Especially as this guy is a retired Marine. Sign up with Navy Fed, they're great.\n\nThere's one day near the end of boot camp where families are allowed to visit and the soon-to-graduate recruits can walk around Parris Island with them. That's also the day that recruits can go to the Navy Fed branch and switch their paychecks to it instead of Fort Steals National Bank.\n\nSome recruit in my platoon: \"Drill Instructor Sergeant Cotis sir! Should this recruit open an account with Navy Fed?\"\n\nDI Sgt Cotis: \"The drill instructor is not allowed to advise you on which bank to use. However, the drill instructor uses Navy Fed. Drill Instructor Staff Sergeant Rivera uses Navy Fed. Senior Drill Instructor Staff Sergeant Weeks uses Navy Fed. In fact, the Drill Instructor cannot think of any other drill instructor he knows that does not use Navy Fed. Take that however you want to.\"", "It seems like this is an issue the left and the right can agree on.", "Yes", "Still is. He just looks better because of who we had before.", "The bill that instated them was a literal 100-0, the bill the next year that transferred them to the department of homeland security was lead by a democrat.\n\nAnd the only thing I was referring to was specifically the body scanners since that was what the person I was responding to decided to rant about.", "With cops this crooked, you can expect them to look into the window, state they saw a suspicious baggy of some kind, and do a search, which then ends up in tons of money, giving them probably cause.\n\nYou are completely right, but at the same time, the way the system is rigged means this guy would likely have lost his money after he had been pulled over regardless of his responses checking out.", "Never answer police questions.", "Cops are allowed to lie.", "You should look up the [Eastman Memo](https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/20/politics/trump-pence-election-memo/index.html). The Capitol Riot had no chance or doing anything meaningful (besides maybe killing some congressmen), sure. But we were inches* away from Trump outright stealing the election through electoral fuckery. The only thing that stopped him was that Pence was only the one who could actually pull the trigger on the fuckery, and he refused. That's what Trump was talking about, on Jan 6th, when he said that Pence failed to \"do what was right\".", "They just say they can smell weed and do a search of the car. That's what happened to me. There was no weed, nor had there ever been, in the car.", "> he sued when they didn't meet the deadline\n\ndollars to donuts they let the deadline pass intentionally because they realized how badly they fucked up.", "Couldn't he have avoided all this if he put it in a bank?\n\nOr several banks if he wanted to be sketchy about it.\n\nYou can call it \"life savings\" as you will, but I know I would find it incredibly suspicious if I encountered any individual with that much cash on hand, receipts or not. Most normal people put their money in some kind of institution.", "Can you describe to a court of law what marijuana smells like? Or alcohol for that matter?", "Wanna get real pissed off? If you have Facebook, request to join the page “ACE Interdiction”. There, you’ll see all kinds of traffic stop reports from different cops around the US jerking each other off for seizing anything from pounds of meth to grams of weed. They go very in depth in their reports and suspicions that led to the traffic stop", "Necessary evil there. But letting it sit in the bank is a net loss", "You're more likely to be pulled over if you're black. You're more likely to face violence from police if you're black. You're more likely to be killed by police if you're black.\n\nThat sort of shit factors into how you act around police, whether you like it or not, man.", "While true, if they fail this part of the search, you're getting off for any \"crimes\" they try to pin on you as a result of the search.", "Murica!", "Because they can.", "This country is getting out of hand. Don’t be sorry when citizens start making the rules.", "They had a dog in the video. If there is no dog onsite, then yes, by all means take your chances. \nThe problem here was that he answered their initial questions, by the time he was asked about searching, it was already moot.", "Any action taken solely on the basis of a drug sniffing dog should be tossed out. They respond to handler cues, and not drugs in every study done on the subject.", "What dif does it make. If I wanted to keep 100k in my trunk. I have every god given right to do so. What are you trying to say?", "It was one of those legal workarounds intended to be used to retain custody of property when it wasn't clear who had ownership or the owner wasn't available to be prosecuted. It goes back centuries worldwide. In the context of the US it has roots in seizing trade goods without proper documentation.\n\nThrough increasing the frequency of use and misapplication combined with a lack of appellate court rulings slapping that down it became what it is today. Part of that was the expanded use in the war on drugs as a way to cut into drug trafficking revenue and giving it to the police which has widespread public support. \n\nThe current abuse of individuals possessing things having it taken away and never charged skewed it from something that made some legal sense in rare circumstances to a free pass for police to rob people on a whim. It is a clear example of a real slippery slope.", "I’m fully aware it’s his right to do so but why the fuck is he driving around with 90k in cash", "How's that boot taste?", ">\"Am I being detained?\"\n>\n>\"No\"\n\nMore like\n\n>”Am I being detained?” “Yes”\n\nThen what? Now you have to argue with a cop about case law and hopefully convince him he’s actually wrong (good luck getting a cop to admit they’re wrong lmao) oh and that’s if the officer actually gives a fuck about the law and is willing to listen to what you have to say.\n\nSo they proceed to illegally search your car, you sue them later in court and win but at the end of the day they’ll get a slap on the wrist and by slap I mean a paid vacati- I mean suspension paid for by you\n\nSo your rights got violated, you spent thousands in court fees and the cop that violated your right was “punished” with paid leave", "Just understand, it doesn't prohibit holding for a drug dog entirely. It just requires that there is separate reasonable suspicion from the traffic stop itself.", "So drug smugglers should use armored vehicles to evade the police?", "I think he's just acknowledging that veterans have historically shared a closer affinity with police and other enforcement agencies, which has provided them a bit more protection or even free-passes, than are normally afforded to average folks.", "It's can't speak unto its defense..it's amazing that this is actually a thing. Total highway robbery", "Plenty of people have fought asset forfeiture and plenty have lost it all. It’s a rigged game designed for you to lose every time.", "So this guy didn't trust banks.... and now he doesn't trust physical cash....", "Like I said, no legal rights. Cops don't have to have \"probable cause\" or \"reasonable suspicion\" or anything else to \"detain\" it. No innocence until proven guilty. Nothing to keep the cops/state from doing whatever they want to it. Like another commenter said, an honest reading of the fourth amendment would prevent this, but the government says it's useful in prosecuting drug dealers so voters just bend over and accept it.", "And the best part is you don't have to say anything.", "90% percent of the paper money in the United states will fucking test positive for cocaine. That should not be a legal reason for seizure. I could hand you 10 bills out of my wallet and there is almost a 0% chance that all will pass a coke test.\n\nThis is why you don't speak to police.\n\n\"I don't answer questions\" \"I do not consent to searches or seizures\"\n\nThen you shut up.\n\nEDIT: You do those things and wait. Either they write you a ticket and send you on your way, or they really fuck up and start violating your constitutional rights. Then you have a nice retirement in the form of a lawsuit heading your way. Go buy dash cams for you cars.\n\nI am very right wing politically, but fuck cops, our justice/legal system, and our government.", "1) Absolutely fuck this shit. \n\n2) I cannot believe the patience of this man", "I’ve had absolutely terrible interactions with NHP and one reasonably pleasant one. But from I’ve seen, most of them are on a power trip or not doing their jobs at all.", "But it's pointless to blame a few \"bad apples\" if they won't even properly punish and make an example of those. Cops know they can literally do anything and at worse get a slap on the wrist. That's why they do it, because there's no accountability.", "It shouldn't have to come to a legal fight though", "If you have watched any of those sorts of videos you will almost never see a cop answer directly to the \"am I being detained\" question. \n\nThey tend to \"answer\" with a question. \"Why do you want to leave?\" \"Are you trying to hide something?\" etc.", "He only got robbed because he let them search his vehicle. I would have told the cop. No. And when he said why. “You just told me I was driving great. So what other fucking reason did you pull me over for”? Simple question.", "That doesn’t matter. The cops word is held in higher regard than yours. others have posted on here how cops will use ANYTHING to pull you over. Over the speed limit, under, tailing too close or too far, it doesn’t matter. If a cop wants to pull you over they will.", "What if they say we'll just bring in a K9 unit and then take bring you in for being uncooperative and suspicious?", "Hindsight tells us nothing, but we don’t have that privilege/luxury in the moment. Allowing someone to drive off with large amounts of cash with the intent to prove said cash was obtained illegally is asinine and to insist that be standard practice is just as foolish.\n\nI don’t agree with this law and am 100% with you that it needs to be changed, but it exists for a reason, the purpose is explicit, and I’m not going to pretend otherwise in an attempt to strengthen my stance on the matter. That’s what I’m referring to by being intellectually dishonest.", "Repeat after me \n\n\"With all due respect (officer / corporal / sergeant), I'm not discussing my day or my plans with you.\"", "My lawyer told me about his brother-in-law's DUI case that took four whole years to end. \n\nThe guy had his license indefinitely suspended (pending trial), had to have a breathalyzer put in his car (pending trial), lost his job when his boss found the arrest record (job unrelated to driving), which then caused his wife to leave him (no income, depression).\n\nIn the end, he was acquitted, but his life was ruined. He tried suing, but that never amounted to anything. (My lawyer was not involved with either the DUI or suing.)\n\nI know what you're thinking, \"Well he could have killed someone driving under the influence.\" True. But apparently he wasn't \"under the influence\" (under .08), no one was hurt, and PG county police and courts are corrupt af. There's absolutely no reason for his life to be ruined like that just for having a beer and driving home. \n\nDue process. Speedy trial. Those words mean nothing.", "That doesn't always stop them", "People have cop-hate boners that cause them to ignore any and all reality because cop bad.", "Watch the video. The local police dept. would wind up getting up to 80% of the \"proceeds\" (in this case they said 70%). The rest stays with the feds. They get the feds involved so that they can avoid pesky state or local laws that prohibit this sort of trickery. It's truly mind boggling how crafty and evil this plot is.", "Just wait for when hands free driving goes full mainstream. AIs don’t speed or run stop signs. There’s a big reason police unions oppose it, they depend on fines to fund their pensions and dept. when the number of traffic tickets go down, gotta make up that cash somehow.", "Because it works.", "Yes. Some states have barred civil forfeiture, but the feds still do it. They behave like mobs with overlapping territories. The locals call the feds, the feds seize it, and give kickbacks to the locals who weren't allowed to seize it.", "I’ve said it for awhile but in a lot of ways not being a veteran is like a second class citizen.\n\nNo universal healthcare.\nNo discounts\nNo, no interest home loan\nNo free education", "In the end. The cop gets fucked and reprimanded for making a false arrest", "I think it's a far better argument to acknowledge that he was calm, polite and collected during the stop. \nAs in: \nIf it can happen to a lucid person in absolute compliance without a fight.... \nImagine an elderly person or someone without better judgement or lacking mental faculties... they'd probably never get it back.", "Christ, you can’t even trust the people we pay to protect us anymore. Criminals hiding behind a badge. Absolutely pathetic.", "Just curious, what kind of games do you play on \"game night\"?", "It’s free when weapons are drawn. Cops hate it when you protect yourself", "Sadly it won't be. This corrupt shit exists for a reason and until the people who keep allowing it are removed from office, it will continue to exist.", "But if you were to confront a random LEO about it they would vehemently deny it and state they serve the community. They've been brainwashed and under trained on purpose, they are tools of the ruling elite.", "well you have to ask in a yes/no manner. same with asking if they're giving you a lawful order.", "Always has been", "Welcome to Civil Asset Forfeiture", "You don't have to wait for a dog..you ask if you're being detained. When they say no yoy day ok have a nice day.", "If you watch the video, you'll find it doesn't matter what the state laws say. If it's illegal in that state, they just call in a federal agency like the DEA. The attorney said the local police dept. would still wind up getting up to 80% of the \"proceeds\" (in this case they said 70%). They get the feds involved so that they can avoid pesky state or local laws that prohibit this sort of trickery. It's truly mind boggling how crafty and evil this plot is.", "never said he \"must\" but i mean... storing that kind of money in the bank is free money for you. not to mention, whats not to trust? its federally insured.", "Well they brought the drug dog in anyway, and it alerted on the cash. But of COURSE it would alert to drugs on a pile of $87,000 cash. Statistically at least some of that money will have come into contact with drugs, or the hands of somebody who handled drugs, at some point. \n\nEven if he hadn't given permission, the dog would have alerted anyway.", "Civilians are regularly fucked by this. No need for the hypothetical.", "And therein lies the problem. What someone chooses to do for a living shouldn't afford them special legal privileges. Don't get me wrong, I'm grateful for people who serve, but it shouldn't put them above the law. This guy did nothing wrong and there shouldn't have been an issue at all, but saying, \"If this can happen to a combat veteran...\" like he expected preferential treatment and was perfectly fine with it happening to \"normal\" people before this.", "It's legit.", "Even if you give consent, you are allowed to revoke it at any point during the search. Will the cops respect your right once they've started is another story.", "I think you mean $75,000. I twas 75k after counting it.", "Always take the hard way. 90% of the cars out there don’t wanna dick with it. They want to write the citation and then get on with their day. The ones that want to dick with you they’re going to do it whether you cooperate or not. No one in the history of traffic stops ever talk to them selves out of being arrested or getting a ticket or any other negative interaction with police officer. Once they start asking questions about what’s in your car their mind is already made up and you’re going to point B and there’s nothing you can do about it except for choose what road you take to get there.", "Illegally searched his car on body cam? I doubt it. And if so he has even me to work with in court.", "I saw something like this happen on Live PD once and it was super sketchy. Cops pulled over a car. The trunk had a bunch of shoe boxes and the guy said he resells shoes and it’s profitable for him. Obviously that’s a thing people do. He also had like $10k cash on him. The cops said it was suspicious to have that much money so they seized it. They let him keep the shoes, though.", "always. ALWAYS , make them get the “white shirt” involved. The cops will know what you’re talking about and will hesitate. As it’s their boss who wears “a white shirt”. He will asses the situation if any laws were broken by cops. My friend got out of an arrest in a parking lot, that way.", "On-duty qualified immunity makes sense in theory (in practice, it gets abused, but that's another argument). Off-duty though, how are their actions legally defensible at all as a police officer? They're off-duty, meaning, not acting as a police officer!!", "Money is free speech though, so maybe someone should sue under first amendment", "The fact this happened right outside Reno, NV makes it even more infuriating. A place where a lot of gambling occurs, people either coming in with a lot of money or leaving with a lot of money, but you aren't allowed to have a lot of money? I know this isn't the case here, but it's still very suspicious and corrupt of the officers.", "And I wonder how many \"asset seizures\" go unreported.", "I can also confirm. I was pulled over right past stateline on my way to Vegas for doing 80 in the fast lane, which was also the flow of traffic at the time and was a 70 zone. I knew he at least had a technical reason to pull me over, but he put on these theatrics of slowly walking around to his trunk, pulling out this giant cowboy hat, and aggressively approached my car with his hand on his sidearm, seemingly ready to draw it at any time. I was being as respectful as I could but he was being a total dickhole from the start, telling me he could have me arrested and my car towed, and a bunch of other threatening shit. I was 22 at the time and terrified, and ended up with an 800 dollar ticket.\n\nNot sure why some people need to ramp up the asshole to an 11 at all times, but I'll never forget this specific NHP officer .", "Criminals have consequences like jail time to consider, cops have a get out of jail free card that can also double as extra paid vacation time called a badge.", "There is something rotten in the states of America", "> In the US we have something called ‘qualified immunity’. Basically cops can’t be held responsible\n\n\"cops\" the person are typically shielded. Their departments and the government which employ them still are. It just means the cop himself doesn't pay the civil judgement, the city/county/state does.", "It doesn't matter if it's a veteran. Civil forfeiture should be completely banned, especially at the discretion of a random police officer.", "Expect for one thing. If he didn’t see the bag when suspect was driving. Why they pull him over in the first place? Cop gonna need to answer that first before anything else moves forward. Then cop is fucked", "He was pulled over because he was following too closely and going under the speed limit. What did the officer think was going to happen if he went the speed limit behind the semi?!", "I feel like people keep missing the point of why the local cops involved the DEA in the first place. If you watch the video you'll learn that they get the feds involved so that they can avoid pesky state or local laws that prohibit this sort of trickery, and in the end, the local police department still ends up with the bulk of the \"proceeds\". It's truly mind boggling how crafty and evil this plot is.", "Nothing would come of it. You’d be wasting time and money you don’t have fighting a case just to get your money back. And nothing will happen to the cops who executed it. Absolutely nothing.", "Oh no once they start asking was in your car you’re already on your way to wherever they’ve decided you’re going, But you get to decide what road you take to get there.", "Gee wiz I wonder why this keeps happening, baffling.", "this is so fucking true, it almost feels like irony, but its not ironic. anyone know the dystopian feeling i just had. smh", "That's crazy, I guess I should avoid going to the U.S. altogether.", "Yes, so the party responsible, the cop, doesn’t pay a cent and is usually given a slap on the wrist or given no punishment at all.\n\nThe people pay for it all and it’s disgusting the things LE get away with in the name of the people.", "I live in California and I now only fly in and out of Vegas. I used to enjoy the drive but I won't take the chance again after hearing stories like this.", "Or even just answering the question about whether he had money in his car.", "Rodriguez v. US. Unless they have reasonable suspicion they cannot call in a dog to sniff your car. They use dogs to create probably cause to search cars. They are able to signal to the dogs to sniff a certain area on the car and claim that’s probably cause. If they claim to have reasonable suspicion and are calling in a dog to sniff your car you are able to ask if you are detained or free to go.", "And then he pulls him over and literally compliments how safely he was driving.", "Completely agree. Civil asset forfeiture goes directly against innocent until proven guilty.", "I could see it going down like this:\n\nCop: How much money is in there? \nMan: about 100,000?\nCop: about 100,000 so it could be more or less\nMan: yeah about 100,000\nCop: takes 30,000 for himself in cash while searching", "We're gradually losing the first amendment everytime a popular protest gets crushed by law enforcement to the cheers of the bystanders.", "My brother is part of an investigative journalism team. This is the story they've been working on for a bit. First one plead guilty yesterday. More to come. [https://youtu.be/Y7dQudUDOIM](https://youtu.be/Y7dQudUDOIM)", "Officers can carry off duty, they're not supposed to drink if they're armed, but it happens. And a lot of times it'll get swept under the rug or just transferred.\n\nIf it's unrelated to carrying and going into the line of duty off job, it's the buddy system kicking in. Good ol' boys club. It's not a constant or sure thing, but it does happen more than people realize.", "Wait…right from the outset…\n\nCop: “we believe this is currency from selling drugs.”\n\nGuy: “I can prove to you it’s not.” \n\nRight there, right from the start, what happened to “innocent until proven guilty?”\n\nWhy is the guy having to already defend himself having cash? This cop is playing the judge, jury and executioner (of the law). When the fuck did this become legally acceptable behavior?", "And also “I don’t answer questions!”", "Why? That assumes that no one tries to fool smog tests with modifications that are only in place during registration and inspection. It also assumes that the authorities can only legitimately enforce smog regulations against those who live and register a car in their jurisdiction rather than all who drive through their jurisdiction, which is not a justifiable assumption either.\n\nRandom checks are a perfectly reasonable enforcement mechanism for something that is not invasive and not criminal like smog checks.", "“iF yOu hAvE nOtHinG tO hIdE jUsT cOmPlY”", "They couldn’t seize his money if his currency were digital instead of physical.", "Probably up to no good carrying 90k CASH through Nevada? Mfw ofc he was up to no good. There is literally 0 reason a normal person wouldn’t just wire that and even then. That kind of cash request could take weeks to get in.", "‘Am I being detained?”\n\n“we just wanna talk.”\n\nActual interaction I had with a cop.", "But they will. I was made to wait 30 min in 2017 and it's not easy to get any repercussions on their behavior", "I appreciate you caring enough to follow up and check my understanding. Hopefully it comforts you to know I'm not interested in trying my luck with the cops.", "I think by far the biggest issue with it is that quite often local governments/PD get to keep the money. That creates a clear profit incentive that is going to easily corrupt the purpose of the law.", "I LOOOVE the Institute for Justice! They're freaking amazing at fighting for rights.\n\nIf this rustles your jimmies, check out their podcast where it's nothing but these kinda of issues they talk about and how they're fighting (and often winning!) these kinda of cases.\n\n[Deep Dive with the Institute for Justice](https://open.spotify.com/show/35xKoi0948xMAEW45Wzga7?si=1f66194e46cb47c1)\n\n&#x200B;\n\nA few good episodes:[This is what happens when state abolish civil forfeiture](https://open.spotify.com/episode/6HCavvzFu9VDFvOWKKY8GF?si=6768e32659454b27)\n\n[These People Lost $85 Million in an L.A. Heist... and the Robber was the FBI](https://open.spotify.com/episode/1hDFpKqvr8ZL17lBNn8llU?si=a0a96575c6fa44a4)\n\n[Supreme Court Shuts Down Police on Entering Your Home Without a Warrant](https://open.spotify.com/episode/4rRM3UEYS4uYd7FbpYRCb7?si=a1d61111184b44fd)", "Freudian slip, maybe?", "\"He was a fattish but active man of paralyzing stupidity, a mass of imbecile enthusiasm – one of those completely unquestioning, devoted drudges on whom, more even than on the Thought Police, the stability of the Party depended.\"\n\n– George Orwell\n\n1984, Part 1, Chapter 2. Tom Parsons, a devout member of the Party and proud of his spying childen, who eventually betray him.", "The original idea was that they needed a way to disposition money or things of value that no one claimed to own. It was never intended to allow taking it without any proof of a crime. How can anyone interpret\n\n“The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated,”\n\nto not apply to cash in a persons possession. Simply having any amount of cash is not evidence of a crime. This is yet another case of the courts lying because they think is is beneficial to the state.", "That chance is 0.0000000000001% btw. (I may have miscounted or done the conversion wrong, but I'm off by 4 zeros max, so... Yknow. Big whoop.)", "[United States v. Article Consisting of 50,000 Cardboard Boxes More or Less, Each Containing One Pair of Clacker Balls](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Article_Consisting_of_50,000_Cardboard_Boxes_More_or_Less,_Each_Containing_One_Pair_of_Clacker_Balls) is a funnier case. That said I fully support civil asset forfeiture I think it's just targeted wrong. For instance, did you see this giant penis rocket recently? That thing was definitely involved in criminal matters.", "it worked for me. i said something like \"i'd really rather get back on the road.\" i didn't expect him to let me go but he just kinda shrugged at me and let me be on my way.", "Now if we can just find him.", "Because Speedy trial only matters to poor people. Rich people just post bail. Bail is the real problem", "Sort of. He's walking through town, is stopped by a nosy sheriff, essentially for just looking like trouble, and when he tries to get them to leave him alone, they get handsy with him, triggering his PTSD and extremely violent muscle memory.", "Right /s", ">nothing illegal about what you described.\n\nSo cops should, without probable cause, be able to stop and detain civilians and make sure they're following the rules?", "If they want to pull you over it’s insanely easy for them to find a reason. Doesn’t even have to be a good reason.", "> It's not just one or two cops in isolated, remote locations. It's everywhere. \n\nIt’s not just one or two. But by your own stats it’s less than 1/700 per year.", "yes, but, if you produce adequate 1st party evidence disproving the legitimacy of the stop, it poisons the well and any subsequent charges or discoveries get thrown out in court as well. if you have a dash cam and they have a dash cam and both refute what the cop says, then it will not hold up in court.", "Hahaha", "The fact that he's a Veteran should not matter in this story, it's used to grab attention/emotions. Which sucks because we should be outraged if this happened to any citizen. Most people having this done to them would destroy them financially and permanently affect them the rest of their lives, if not destroy it.", "Cops are just state sponsored street thugs.", "Is there an actual good use for any highway patrol or motorcycle cops? All I’ve ever seen them do is write tickets and give chase, they are pretty much glorified tax collectors with guns, I’d say shift the law enforcement part to the county sheriffs with no extra budget and make highway patrol purely reactionary, meaning no tickets, no traps, no pursuit, just fire and medical services.", "Not necessarily, police just can't hold you to bring a dog out for causes unrelated to the initial stop. Cop can just say \"I smelled marijuana\"/\"they appeared under the influence\" or whatever as a pretext for the stop and then they're golden to make you wait for a dog\n\nBasically the supreme court just says the cop can't hold you for no reason to wait for a dog but if they give a \"valid\" reason they can", "4th is dead.\n\n1st has been delegated to private companies to enforce on behalf of the government or they threaten more regulation.\n\n2nd is actively being undermined, with only some laser focused nut jobs keeping that at bay.", "I keep making this observation: In the past 30 years our constitutional right to privacy and against illegal search and seizure have basically evaporated....where were the guns when all that happened?", "Because banks have lawyers?", "There's so many examples on the internet where they are straight up breaking every law on the way. Doesn't matter how well versed you are, if he's corrupt bully he will detain without giving a reason, arrest you, pepper spray, beat, taze, even shoot. And that's it. \n\nThen you file a complaint and internal investigation will find no wrongdoing. That's how it is.", "Dude, I straight up had my last sticks of gum swiped by a cop searching my car because I worked at a dispensary and smelled like weed. It’s beyond fucked up. FUCK COPS.", "Like a gang, but with cheat codes. Also, they don't sell anything of value. So; a worse gang", "When some pass the test and then retune their car afterwards in a way that wouldn't pass, I don't agree with there being zero reason for it.", "and he'll never trust cops ever again\n\nnot that you should in the first place", "Right but cops can create the necessary probable cause with a simple \"I smelled marijuana\" or something like that so it's not a real solid protection", "If a cop decides to fuck you over, your day is already ruined.\n\nYou are now building YOUR case when you go to court over this in the near future.", "[Police take more than burglars in America ](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/11/23/cops-took-more-stuff-from-people-than-burglars-did-last-year/)", "Right, they would just seize it and say suspicion of fraud or money gained from human trafficking. The war on drugs is bullshit but it's not the only pile of shit out here.", "when comedy is hard to take and reality is worse. jim said \"if you think you live in the land of the free, light a joint and crack a beer then take them for a walk down the street and see just how far your freedom gets you.\"", "Seriously?", "That was the first recount. Second recount was $42950.26. Third recount was...... what cash? I didn't see any cash in the illegal search I performed......", "Thats how you get robbed in broad daylight", "Simple solution: move to Canada and put it in a Canadian bank, where the CDIC will cover it, backed by a government that is not on the verge of insolvency.\n\nThe limit's lower, though. The FDIC raised their limit from $100k USD to $250k USD, but the CDIC is still at $100k CAD.", "You would almost have a better chance at winning the lottery\n\nEdit: 5 too many zeros. But I appreciate you regardless", "Nope", "Its only free speech for rich people. Big difference.", "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.\n\nNo person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.", "I don’t trust banks… well that’s a dumb answer and a dumb policy. That’s why these laws are around so you may not like them but like bathrooms they are there for a reason.", "Yeah, but that was only after they found the money, plus he could have just left instead of waiting for the dog since the cops can't hold you without probably cause.\n\n[Supreme Court: Cops can’t hold suspects to wait for drug-sniffing dog](https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/239513-court-rules-cops-cant-hold-suspects-to-wait-for-dog)\n\n>The Supreme Court ruled 6-3 on Tuesday that the Constitution forbids police from holding a suspect without probable cause, even for fewer than 10 extra minutes.\n\n>Writing on behalf of the court, Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg declared that the constitutional protections against unreasonable search and seizure prevent police from extending an otherwise completed traffic stop to allow for a drug-sniffing dog to arrive.\n\n>“We hold that a police stop exceeding the time needed to handle the matter for which the stop was made violates the Constitution’s shield against unreasonable seizures,” she ruled.\n\n>The case, Rodriguez v. United States, was brought by a man who was pulled over for driving on the shoulder of a Nebraska highway. After the police pulled him over, checked his license and issued a warning for his erratic driving, the officer asked whether he could walk his drug-sniffing dog around the vehicle.\n\n>The driver, Dennys Rodriguez, refused. However, the officer nonetheless detained him for “seven or eight minutes” until a backup officer arrived. Then, the original officer retrieved his dog.\n\n>After sniffing around the car, the dog detected drugs, and Rodriguez was indicted for possessing methamphetamine. In all, the stop lasted less than 30 minutes.\n\n>According to the Supreme Court, though, that search of Rodriguez’s car was illegal, and the evidence gathered in it should not be used at trial. While officers may use a dog to sniff around a car during the course of a routine traffic stop, they cannot extend the length of the stop in order to carry it out.\n\ne: Interestingly enough, if a dog gives a [false positive](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/02/19/supreme-court-drug-sniffing-dog/1930219/), then the evidence obtained from the following search that it is based on is allowed if it is a car (but not a home).\n\n>The high court ruled unanimously that a Florida police officer's use of a drug-sniffing dog to search a truck during a routine traffic stop was appropriate, even though the drugs found were not what the pooch was trained to detect.\n\n>Justice Elena Kagan wrote the unanimous opinion for the court – and for Aldo, a retired drug-detection dog. \"The record in this case amply supported the trial court's determination that Aldo's alert gave (Canine Officer William) Wheetley probable cause to search the truck,\" she said.\n\n>On the other hand, Scalia and Justice Anthony Kennedy appeared to align with the court's four liberals against Franky, who detected marijuana in a Miami grow house only after spending several minutes sniffing around the front door. Kagan called that \"a lengthy and obtrusive process.\" Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg said it could lead to random searches of \"any home, anywhere.\"", "The average amount Stolen in asset forfeiture is $600. Try hiring a lawyer to get $600 back.", "Can’t watch the video, currently at work, why did they seize his money?", "You can’t pay your bills in bitcoin", "Oodlelolly. Gotta pay the sheriff.", "Which is great as long as the federal government hasn’t decided you’re an enemy of the state. The feds freeze people’s accounts all the time.\n\nEdit: lol at people downvoting me… in a thread that is literally about the government taking a citizen’s money.", "More property is taken from civil asset forfeiture than from burglaries\n\nhttps://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/11/23/cops-took-more-stuff-from-people-than-burglars-did-last-year/", "I believe the legal term is a shakedown but more commonly referred to as protection money.", "Cop: “YoU DiDn’T uSe YoUr BLiNker bACk tHerE”\n\nDriver: “Yeah I did.”\n\nCop: “Alright, would you mind stepping out of the vehicle? If not, I will take that as you refusing an order and will drag you out with a taser. And if that doesn’t work I’ll just start shooting.”\n\nGuy: “All this over a blinker, that I actually did use?”\n\nCop: (gun drawn) “GET OUT OF THE FUCKING CAR!! Now!! GET OUT OF THE FUCKING CAR OR I WILL SHOOT!”\n\n6 months later…after a passerby handed over video she took of the incident- the guy actually did use his blinker. Buuuut he’s been in jail since that day, lost his job, has this on his record, and has been wrongfully detained for months, unable to post bail.\n\nCop —> didn’t miss a day, and is still pulling the same bull shit - like this clown in the video.", "> With no probable cause to seize the cash, a Nevada Highway Patrol sergeant who arrived on the scene ordered a drug-sniffing dog to be brought in. The dog alerted on the cash, and the officers announced that they would be seizing it as probable drug proceeds.\n\nUsing dogs for drug alerting should be outlawed. A dog can be trained through subtle commands to do whatever a trainer wants them to do, such as \"alert\". That gives them a tool that opens up any number of shit they can do to a suspect, such as taking all their money!", "The original excuse works for that. 'Not enough distance.'", "I think the point is it's much safer b/c of thieves.", "Shit. You aren't wrong with \"survive the encounter\".\n\nFuck US policing is bad.", "Is that in every state?", "There are so many credit unions for veterans too. They literally give you the opportunity to sign up with Navy Federal when you’re in boot camp.", "Thank you for the info, I hope it's never useful for me but at least I know now.", "Yeah, it's like the dumbest possible way to be dumb here too. I mean, I'd feel weird leaving $90k home somewhere, but the idea that it's safer with you in the trunk of a car on cross country road trip, than it is at a safe at home, buried in jars in the backyard, or whatever, is madness.\n\nYou're just not doing any risk assessment math then at that point at all. Like the people that drive from seattle to florida, because they're afraid to fly, go to Disney World, and then are too afraid to get on most rides once there, because of the .0000000000000001% chance the ride fails or the handful of times a year there's a plane crash, and they die. \n\nModern day relatively speaking, driving is super dangerous. Still not likely to die, of course, but you were probably a million times more likely to die in that road trip than on Space Mountain", "The \"following too close to a semi\" is a common tactic and it's fucking bullshit.", "I'm not going to endeavor to teach you nuance.", "what's the time limit again? 15-30 min or so?", "I mean it only requires your lawyer to know that. If the search is unlawful or made lawful (via a PC created by a drug dog) through an unlawful detainment then anything found is inadmissible evidence.", "What the fuck ever happened until innocent until proven guilty?", "I don’t like using banks purely on the fact they use your money to make themself money, and still charge you monthly to use it.", "I mean it shouldn’t be abolished that makes no sense. It should just be implemented WAAAAY better and cops shouldn’t be able to use the proceeds cause it just incentivizes more seizures", "$100,000 can safely make you a lotta money if invested wisely. Definitely don't get it either, but I will say that it would be a lot safer to have cash if the police weren't trying to rob people.", "Well, once you find cops that know, understand, and follow the law, let me know so we can all move to this utopia.", "That only helps if someone who learns of it has the power to change it & also happens to give a shit.", "Two guys had to ignore the giant stack of bank receipts this honorable veteran had to prove his cash was legit…. Literal thieves in blue uniforms. This shit needs to stop.", "Civil asset forfeiture. Legalized theft by law enforcement. It happens all the time.\n\n[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kEpZWGgJks](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kEpZWGgJks)\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr2oItXC1eM", "lol if you were a convicted murderer you’d be in prison. \n\nSTFU with unhelpful hypotheticals that have nothing to do with the conversation and keep on the topic at hand.", "No one is being detained during a smog check, and you don't need probable cause for routine inspections looking for non-criminal violations. It's no different than an unannounced health inspection at a restaurant.", "I'd have thought civil asset forfeiture would have failed any test under the 4th Amendment, you know.... that bit about unreasonable search and seizure?", "Ok, I gotta admit, the defeatist attitude is incredibly ironic considering the video that started this thread has a man literally fighting his case, winning his money back, and pursuing further legal action against the police force that wronged him. Uphill battle as it was, it is not a fact that nothing would come of you fighting for your rights.\n\nAnd even if 100% of the time it didn't help to to defend the rights afforded to you by your government, knowing that you have the right to not talk at all is a safety in itself.", "They don't hold your money. When you deposit your money in the bank it allows them to practice fractional reserve lending. Traditionally for every $1 you deposit with them they could then lend between $20 and $90 out to other parties (ie money creation out of thin air). This changed last year so that now there is no reserve requirement which means banks can effectively lend out as much as they want without having to actually hold any money. All you have is an iou from the bank for the amount you deposited, but if even a small number of citizens tried to withdraw their savings at the same time the banks wouldn't be able to fulfil their obligations.\n\nThere are 100 other problems with central banking and commercial banks, but most peoples starting assumption that their money is safely held by their bank is false.", "Generally yeah. Your mortgage tax payments or your rent security deposit have more legal protections and escrow requirements than cash forfeiture.", "This depends on the state you are in.", "No, the real moral of the story is that he could ONLY fight back because he was a veteran and it was making the cops look bad to right wingers. A normal person in the same situation taking the same actions would very likely have never gotten their money back, or at the very least taken years.", "Just because you've never had a reason to carry cash, doesn't mean there aren't reasons for it. \n\nIt doesn't really matter anyway, because having large sums of cash isn't illegal, and therefore someone shouldn't be punished for it", "Because the 13th rewrote the intention of law enforcement, to legal slave hunters.", "Ok they def made the intro like Reno 911 on purpose", "Unless you got a drone following your car from above, good luck disproving the legitimacy. If you can find me a real example of this happening, I’d be very grateful. Because the search I’ve done has found me nothing of the sort.", "That's all well and good, but what about people that don't own a dash cam. Or people that a day in court means not being able to pay bills? This is an awful lot of bending over backwards to justify the actions of an ineffective and abusive police force.", "What? The land of the free?\n\nWhoever told you that is your enemy!\n\nNow something must be done\n\nAbout vengeance, a badge, and a gun", "Few years ago I was driving through Northern California to shoot a short film over the weekend. Being a stoner in a legal state I brought, at most, a gram of marijuana with to last the weekend. Was about 11 at night and we were on the last half hour of our drive when we hit some mountains and passed 2 cops on the side of the road ignoring their jobs. Sure enough, they popped their cherries. Dude was driving the speed limit sober and did nothing wrong, but they claimed his taillight was too dim. That old chestnut. Us 3 in the car sat idly as they pulled him out for some unknown reason. Minute later the cop knocks on my window and asks me to get out because they need to search the car and my bags. I said I didn't consent but he says the driver just told them they were free to do so. Driver was a great dude, but had only lived in the states a couple years and maybe it was his Improv background, but he just \"yes and'ed\" the cops and said they could do anything. Didn't ticket him for the light but found my gram of weed and gave me a $500 ticket in a legal state because we had literally crossed into national park territory right where they pulled us over. Based on that and every other experience I've had, cops are full-blown enemies far as I'm concerned.", "That reason is going to be under much more scrutiny. Some judges won't play those kinds of bullshit games. Regardless, it's a better place to be in than agreeing to a search.", "The apples aren't just violent but greedy as well.", ">Allowing someone to drive off with large amounts of cash with the intent to prove said cash was obtained illegally is asinine and to insist that be standard practice is just as foolish.\n\nNo it isn't. Innocent until proven guilty. Yes some crimes go unpunished but I think destroying an innocent person's life is far worse than letting a criminal go. Especially when they have literally 0 proof of a crime, just a large amount of cash.", "Everyone in these comments is missing the underlying critical issue. The \"war\" on drugs is what allows this kind of thing to happen, plus much more.", "While I I totally think Civil Asset forfeiture is a huge load of BS and this seizure is bullshit…The Washington Post Story about this also highlights that this guy hasn’t paid taxes in 2 years and owes $18,000 in child support. He doesn’t just “distrust banks” he’s actively hiding his assets by keeping it all in cash… two wrongs don’t make a wrong though. Forfeiture was bullshit. But he should probably pay his taxes and child support.", "... Should you be driving like someone who wants to be pulled over? i.e. speeding or driving recklessly, and breaking the law?\n\nAbsolutely asanine reasoning from the cop there. Literally everyone is suspicious in that scenario.", "Stupid question. What would be the reasoning of that to say it's from drug sales", "Would you? Would you consider it odd for Floyd Mayweather? How about if Bezos had 100k on hand? Would you still find anyone with that kind of cash on hand suspicious?", "I agree that it makes zero sense to carry your money with you, banks are a safer (not to mention insured) place.. however there is absolutely nothing illegal about doing this.", "Why would you ever assume that...? People cheat inspections all the time. The inspections are mostly there for state revenue and to keep dangerous clunkers off the road, not catch and prevent every case.\n\nRegardless, you can have mandatory inspections as well as enforcing the law on a regular basis. There's nothing in the Constitution that says otherwise.\n\nCops in my area have decibel meters to catch motorcycles with excessively loud exhausts. There are red light cameras to catch people who run lights. We have speed radars on the highway to catch speeders. Nothing unconstitutional about any of that. It's enforcing the laws we all have to abide by.", "Nevada cops are notorious for this kind of abuse. They know that gamblers could potentially be carrying a lot of cash and they want to take it from them.", "coincidentally got it back when the media reached out to DEA for comment", "Oh you sweet summer child, that’s not America.", "I’m sure I could learn a lot from a 5 day old burner account. But go on. Nuance me. Please. All knowledgeable u/Uhgfda", "I think that's what they meant.", "Yeah they do", "That's SCOTUS precedent based on the Constitution, so yes.", "What is ironic, though, is Nevada is a state full of gamblers and therefore not uncommon to have people with load of cash.\n\nI thought the withdrawal receipts should have been enough to close the case right there but I am sure they were already thinking about how to spend the \"overtime\" pay.", "What?", "I am very left wing criminal defense attorney and I agree with this guy. Also, no matter how red handed you think you are, shut the f up. Honesty with the cops never helps your case.", "Literally the story behind the classic lyric \"I got 99 problems...\"", "that cop should be fired", "He was represented by a non profit law firm so he probably didn't have to pay much if anything. Still absolutely scubby though.", "Arrest that man! He deered to kill a kings dare!", "land of the free lmaaaaao yeah if you’re only comparing to North Korea and shit god damn what a fucking scam", ">Civil Asset Forfeiture is illegal if you interpret the US constitution in good faith.\n\nLots of things are.", "That’s pretty easy to overcome. I just like the idea of being my own bank.", "Yea, but saying you don't give permission is still the way to go. Yea they can still force you to let them search their vehicle, but if you don't give permission you can argue later in court that they lacked probable cause, and if the officer doesn't think they have probable cause they likely won't search your vehicle. Conversely, if you give permission then they are totally in the clear to search your vehicle whether they legitimately have probable cause or not, and you have no recourse.\n\nThe best answer to an officer asking to search your vehicle, house, person, etc etc, is:\n\n\"Officer, I understand you're just trying to do your job, and I respect that, but I never consent to searches and I unequivocally do not consent to this search.\"", "Or just train the dog to alert on anything or nothing at all. \n\nhttp://www.wayne-county-forfeiture.com/content/drug-dogs-and-false-alerts-police-lie-and-dogs-wont-sniff-out-perjury\n\n\"The dog is not lying. In fact, he really is interested...\"\n\n\"Unlike dogs, people lie... And cops lie all the time to support a traffic stop, probable cause, or a forfeiture case.\" \n\n\"In fact, police officers are trained by prosecutors in how to make up little legal lies, and they are actively encouraged to tell these fabrications in court.\"\n\nOn an anecdotal note, If I act all excited and repeatedly ask my dog, \"Do you want x??? Who's a good girl! Do you want x??\" It doesn't matter what 'x' is. I could be asking if she wants to be shot in the head or to eat her own puppies. Same thing with \"find it\" or \"go get it\". We're at the point in training where if she finds or gets anything, she gets praise and a treat (to enforce the action). It would be nice to apply that in the future to specific things, but even a well-trained drug dog with an impatient/ corrupt handler will get praise for finding literally anything, like us now.\n\nShe doesn't know what I'm saying, just that I'm excited about it, and therefore, she should be too. And once she does something I find acceptable, she's treated, whether I put it there or not.", "I absolutely agree that there shouldn't be preferential treatment, and from the video I didn't get the sense that he expected preferential treatment. He just acknowledged that it still exists and that it possibly meant non-vets would probably be treated even worse. Indeed, most of the other examples the video gave were of people with various ethnic/racial backgrounds. And since \"veteran\" was part of the theme of the video and the article, I am guessing he was encouraged to use that \"theme\" in his soundbites, knowing that press and people would \"get it\". But who really knows.", "Ok, thank you. \nI mean we have similar rules for random bag searches for example. \n\nBut traffic checks can be completely random including breathalyzer checks which are mandatory if they want to do one. They don't need any suspicion at all.", "Orange man bad, Obama good? \nhttps://thefederalist.com/2017/07/20/civil-asset-forfeiture-skyrocketed-under-obama/", "Not exactly. It was 8 mins after he had issued a ticket. Which was 20 mins after pulling him over. \n\nWithout reasonable suspicion, Police can't extend a stop in order to conduct a dog sniff test \"beyond the time reasonably required to complete the stops mission\". Once the tasks related to the stops mission are done, checking DL, checking warrants and issuing a citation, the detension must end.\n\nTime is 100% a factor", "Can you tell me what JP Morgan's done? I'm not too familiar with that company.(like of course I know of them and see their banks but I just don't know their history)", "Actually all of those variables are extra. Just remember, with cops: Just Say No!", "Agreed. Problem is they can then judge you based on your skin or your appearance and make up some bullshit like they smell weed or alcohol or something and search on probable cause. Unfortunately, it's not a clear situation in every instance where it's okay to be quiet or asked to be let go, especially when you're carrying damn near 100k in cash, regardless of legally earning that money and holding onto it.", "Large truths.", "You don't have to do those things either.", "Last I heard, this wasn't actually the case?", "Absolutely. Highway patrol should be looking for people driving dangerously/erratically, aiding broken down motorists or being first responders at accident scenes and setting up dui check points.", "So the authorities didn't meet the deadline.\n\nIf you didn't meet the deadline for legal filing, often they will file a declaratory judgement, after which there is no legal remedy.", "Biden is and always has been a corporate clown. How the DNC managed to sell him as \"the most progressive candidate since FDR\" is honestly a testament to the brain rot in American politics.", "Civil Forfeiture...what the actual Fuck...it should be renamed to Government Theft... Just another reason to hate Law Enforcement", ">Civil forfeiture should be abolished.\n\nAbsolutely goddamn right!", "Hey look guy's, the mafia is alive and well. Oh wait thats our law enforcement? Could have fooled me.", "Obligatory FUCK THE COPS! FUCK THE POLICE!", "The nuance is that bad cops are protected from the consequences of their actions. The only thing suing a police department does is transfer taxpayer money into your pocket, so it doesn't actually harm them at all.", "I'd argue it was before that at least regionally. I was law enforcement prior to this ruling (2010-2013), and that's what I'd always been told from the moment I started. If the dog can't get to the car before you're done with your stop, you had no legal right to hold them. This was in Florida, so it's possible it was a FL SC case prior to Rodriguez though.", "How is a single cop able to do with this without the order of a Judge??", "Yeah, the conservative lawyers that work to keep CAF a thing, just like many conservative people, don't care about the spirit of the law, only the letter of the law, because it leaves more wiggle room for their bullshit.", "[this is a gotdamn racket](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/12/23/the-feds-just-shut-down-a-huge-program-that-lets-cops-take-your-stuff-and-keep-it/) that goes all the way up to the [federal DOJ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equitable_sharing), the downward trend coincides directly with obamas attempt to starve them out of existence. now on the rise again, because apparently no one cared to renew these budget restrictions after his term was up", "Lack of probable cause is also one of the better defenses in court. Let’s suppose this guy in the story was actually trafficking drugs. He was pulled over not on suspicion of drug trafficking but rather for going below the speed limit and following two closely behind a truck. I don’t know the facts of the case but if a lawyer could show that the person wasn’t going too slow for traffic or following too closely then there wouldn’t be probable cause to stop the vehicle and thus any drugs would be inadmissible.", "What bank are you using that is charging you?", "The DEA is giving him the money back. No drugs. Nothing. Didnt get a warning or ticket. They just took the money. 80% of it goes to the government and county for them to use. Yes, it's an amp website. Some people do not like this, but this is all I have.\n\nhttps://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.rgj.com/amp/5686851001", "I mean, you see it on Reddit all the time. Someone will post a 15 second clip, and the top comments are all people saying the person should be thrown in jail for life or executed. They don’t even ask about context or alternative explanations, just straight to the sentence.\n\nThen they will be excited about the prison rape they will face.", "What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas, including your winnings. The house always wind. 🤬", "Amen. It probably varies by jurisdiction, but where I live, a bank's deposits are insured and guaranteed up to a certain maximum, whereas a credit union's deposits are 100% insured and guaranteed without limit.\n\nYou're more likely to get screwed by a run on the banks than a run on the credit unions.", "Actually they went to the heart of the English grievances with England that led to the civil war", "Yes, I know. And the examples I gave are federal reasons for them to search without permission. It's settled law that an officer can search your vehicle for any of the reasons above. This is why cops use drug sniffing dogs - if you don't give consent, they bring in a dog and it signals the scent of drugs, then they have probable cause and can search without your permission. \n\nThat video you shared is great advice for making sure you don't say anything that could be self-incriminating, but it has nothing to do with ways to prevent a search, which cannot be done.", "Uh, the US government isn't on the verge of insolvency or anywhere near it. \n\nIt's edging closer to authoritarianism, but there's nothing wrong with its finances.", "Just as an FYI for those who care about sources, the Institute of Justice is a liberterian organization funded by Charles Koch, CEO of Koch Industries.", "They'd just manufacture probable cause at that point though.\n\n\"I smelled cannabis\"\n\n\"I saw what I believed to be drug paraphernalia/a gun\"\n\n\"Ok I'm going to run my dog around your car just to make sure\" and give the dog the signal to false hit on the car", "While I understand that people shouldn't answer questions and allow police to search their vehicles under any circumstances, saying he only got robbed because he let them search his vehicle is putting the responsibility solely on him, the victim. The reality is that our legal system is predatory and is designed to be that way. The only reason he shouldn't cooperate, is because the system is designed in a way that if he does cooperate, even if innocent, he could be put in a situation where he could be charged with crimes he didn't even know he was committing. \n\n\nThe system is flawed and this guy got robbed because he had faith in the system, and it fucked him.", "All US Cops Are Bad.\n\nThe junior cop didn't even stand up against that older officer. That makes them both horrible people.\n\nNot a single cop stands up against these cops, that makes them all bad cops.\n\nIf you are a cop, you are a bad cop. You are a horrible person.", "Exactly. Always remember. OJ was acquitted of murder. Cops are about the most useless form of law enforcement that exists. You go far enough right you start having some similar views that lefties do =\\]", "In most countries, they wouldn't have taken it in the first place", "You're correct. Do you want to make a bet of the percentage of traffic stops where that truth will get any traction other than \"Are you a lawyer?\" \nOn the roadside you are dealing with people who are immune to almost any discipline. They can shoot you, and will only face consequences if the shooting is video recorded. \nI'm not saying you're wrong, but like the right of way argument with a semi, you will likely be right and still in handcuffs.", "pulled me over for \"rolling a stop sign\" at 4am after u-turning to follow me for a mile. called in the dog guy, slowly walked me away from my car and talked to me from the other direction so i wouldnt look towards it, guy comes back with dog, gives a thumbs up and they spend half an hour searching my car for drugs that arent there. no idea what i could ever possibly have done to avoid that. useless story, but even though people are obviously right when they say to just tell the cops no, the law protects the police in these situations better than it protects you", "In 2019: $330,000,000 was taken from US citizens.", "> They should have to prove it comes from illicit sources before seizing it.\n\nMoney is not a citizen, it has no rights. They can accuse it of a crime, arrest it, and do anything they want to it.\n\nSeriously.", "> The nuance is that bad cops are protected from the consequences of their actions.\n\nLiability and consequence aren't perfect synonyms. Almost like there's nuance in between. \n\nIs it holiday break already?", "So there's a law that allows cops to seize someone's money for no reason and then get given most of that money as a reward?!!?!!!!\n\nThat's not okay.", "Well, if you give them consent to search, you essentially abandon your right to the 4th amendment.", "But if you didn’t give consent, then the reason for a search without consent becomes another thing you can challenge in court. And if you win that fight, what they found in the search is inadmissible. If you consent then you don’t have that option, so always give yourself every opportunity to win the fight you can.", "American here. Is this, or something similar, a problem in others countries too?", "AT&T is doing some suspicious stuff. Time to seize all of their assets. And Comcast. And quite a few others. \n\nThen we'll see how long the law lasts...", "I'm not convinced it alerted on drug residue on the cash at all. It could easily have alerted on an object on the ground that smelled different than the surroundings and had somebody's fresh handprints & sweat on it, unlike the surrounding objects, which is what it's been trained to do in similar tasks in the past. Or it could have alerted on the object on the ground that the trainer seemed to think was important and was urging the dog towards, which is what it's been trained to do in similar tasks in the past. Or it could have alerted to cash independently of any kind of drug residue, which is what it's been trained to do in similar tasks in the past.\n\nWe don't test these dogs in any kind of neutral way by a third party. We don't even try to establish types 1 or type 2 error rates against a placebo target, much less against a variety of placebo targets or in a variety of situations. We are supremely disinterested in validating their performance. Without that sort of testing validated by a disinterested party, every single one of these dogs has as much valid authority on the matter as the officer's imaginary friend.\n\nThis whole pipeline is thoroughly, thoroughly corrupt, and I hope someday, after a lot of legal and social progress, we can hold these predators liable in some way, shape, or form for their literal highway robbery. Cops, DEA agents, prosecutors, judges, and politicians. They swore a fucking oath to defend our Constitutional rights, and this process is in direct contravention of the fourth and fifth amendment, on its face.", "And if you you go far enough left you get your guns back 😂", "Can someone tell me why r/videos is the only sub where you have to watch the video on an external site? Can't they be embedded in Reddit like on other subs? I skip almost every video here because of this. Is there maybe a setting or something I don't know about?", "Very interesting. They effectively verbally searched the car with his consent before physically searching the car.\n\nNever consent to any searches, verbal physical or otherwise. At the least, if you have nothing to hide, it’s inconvenient. At the worst, if you still have nothing to hide, a crooked cop could plant something. Never never never. It is your RIGHT.", "Wait, how are the public defenders making money?", "Well the cops get to be free of rules too, naturally.", ">moron who thinks the banks are out to steal his money which has never happened to anyone in modern times ever in this country.\n\n Don't get me wrong, its pretty stupid to carry your life savings with you, but like... Do you live under a rock?", "\n>EDIT: You do those things and wait. Either that write you a ticket and send you on your way, or they really fuck up and start violation your constitutional rights. Then you have a nice retirement in the form of a lawsuit heading your way. \n\n\nIf you survive the encounter, at least.", "RBC. They’re a shit bank, but a bit better than my other options. I’ve hopped around a bit and these guys seem to screw me the least out of everyone. I don’t keep anything in banks anymore.", "Of course there is due process. It just happens after they take all your shit. /s", "At least he was represented pro bono. The Institute for Justice is doing God's work here.", "Because he earned the title.", "FDIC insures up to $250,000 per depositor, per insured bank, for each account ownership category.", "He didn't get the fees paid for?", "Nobody said anything about liability. The person you responded to said responsibility, and you literally quoted him saying that.\n\nIf the discussion had been about liability you would be right, but literally no one is talking about legal liability but you. Your pedantics don't work if nobody used the word you're trying to get a technical \"gotcha\" on.\n\nIn any case, protection from liability and protection from consequences are the same in this case, you already know a bad cop will never be punished by the department so the removal of lawsuit takes away the only avenue to punish them.", "This isn’t corrupt cops. This is perfectly legal and in many cases the money funds the police department. It’s a corrupt system not a corrupt cop. \n\nhttps://www.justice.gov/afms/about-asset-forfeiture-program-afp\n\nhttps://www.aclu.org/issues/criminal-law-reform/reforming-police/asset-forfeiture-abuse", "There are literally thousands of infractions cops can pull you over for. \n\nIt's written like this specifically so cops can pull you over if they want.", "Honestly I'd even go as far as saying it's worth an annual watch. Really good information that is easily digestible and helps put things in perspective.", "Make sure to further state your desire for legal counsel clearly, directly, and without any slang, or the fucking courts will interpret your request for 'My lawyer, dawg' as a demand for a canine lawyer.", "So I suppose you’re okay with stop and frisk and stopping people to check their citizenship status? Get out of here with that police state crap.", "They may try that. Ask if you are free to leave. If they say no, ask for an attorney. Do not say anything else. You may think you can talk your way out of it. You cannot.", "They didn't. Progressives and leftists just really hated Trump.", "looool... Amazing!", "I can't recall the last time I heard of a speedy trial. Shit takes forever. Maybe if we stop putting people on trial for trivial things we could actually get that right back.", "I got arrested, car impounded and detained for 2 hours for drunk driving after blowing 0.00 three times in a row. They do whatever the fuck they want. You just have to hope the next one you encounter is having a good day. I was finally released after being taken to the police station and blowing 0, again, at the breathalyzer there.", "Gargantuan Certainty", "The law says I'm allowed to scatter a pig's brains all over my front lawn if they fail to identify themselves as law enforcement before trying to force their way in to my house. It doesn't mean I won't be treated like a cop killer by everyone after that.\n\nMoron.", "That has to be one of the most morally corrupt legal practices out there.", "Since so many cops are criminals I say we the people start taking their shit.", "Cash is trash\n\nIf only there was an open source digital currency that can store value securely, while allowing the user to be his own bank. If such a thing existed, I'd put my life savings into it.\n\n\\[edited typo\\]", "No, it would not encompass the issue, because civil forfeiture is not exclusive to drug money. It includes the proceeds of any crime.\n\nYou could eliminate the drug war, and NHP still would have seized this guy's money. They just would have claimed he was suspected of some other crime.", "not corrupt cops, its legal and happens all the time same thing happens when flying the tsa will call dea they take your money and thats thats. io hate it and its complete bull and should be abolished.", "“I don’t trust banks” \n\nWhy? Is there instances why you wouldn’t trust putting money in a legitimate bank? Like, I would imagine driving around with 100k carry’s a lot more risk than putting it in a bank", "In the sense that everything can be made up, yes.", "> At least, that's how it is supposed to work.\n\nYeah, welcome to the conversation lol.", "You wouldn't accept that premise for any of your other possessions, especially since banks are a for profit service that no one is obligated to use... why would you accept it for cash? What if the government thought your car was stolen because you parked it on the street instead of locking it in a secure garage? Even though you have registration/title/insurance they tow it, impound it, then make you pay and go to court to get it back. Would you feel the same way?", "Of course this is wrong and fuck the police, but this guy is a massive idiot for carrying that much cash. Who the fuck carries around 100k? Why isn’t that invested and earning interest?! Serious smooth brain move here.", "Love all this freedom we have over here folks. I gotta tell ya. I just feel SO FREE.", "Can’t wait for the “Audit the Audit” breakdown on this.\n\nIf you haven’t seen it it’s a great channel.", "There’s plenty of reasons yeah", "By refusing to give consent then it also means their probable cause has to hold up in court. In this particular story the reason for the stop according to the officer was that he was driving below the speed limit and following too closely to a truck. Maybe the cop was right but maybe the cop was just looking for an excuse to make a stop and pulled someone over who was going the same speed as the traffic (not everyone is comfortable driving 80 mph which is the speed limit in Northern Nevada along i80) and was following at a relatively close but still safe distance. If that’s the case then the entire stop is unlawful and any evidence gained in the stop without the consent of the driver would be invalid.", "Since when was it illegal to own money?", "Dumb statement. They can't just shoot you. Do what they say and don't talk. Fight your battle in court. You don't give consent to a search but they start doing one anyway? Repeat you don't consent, and stay out of their way and stay quiet. You will win the fight in court. People like you are one of the problems. You spread this negative narrative instead of providing actual useful advice. \n\n\"I don't answer questions\" \"I don't consent to searches\" \"Am I being detained?\"\n\nIf you are detained, shut up, and do not resist anything. FIGHT THE BATTLE IN COURT.", "not defending abusive police forces, and as I said it depends greatly on location and department. I highly suggest people get dash cams for a myriad of reasons beyond the police, they are quite affordable these days. \n\nyour point about those who don't have money for court etc, is a big reason why a great many departments have dash cams on squad cars that cannot be deactivated by the driver. there have even been a couple, albeit not enough, cases of officers getting charged based on what their own dash cam showed vs what they wrote in their report.", "> There was an attempted coup a year ago that very nearly succeeded.\n\nFucking LOL", "We need a police force that polices the police the same way they police people. Fucking rock up to a traffic stop and start batoning their asses, no questions asked.", "There’s a John Oliver episode on it, you would find it enlightening", "Yeah but that's the issue with police officers. They don't know laws they have to enforce. How has this system been accepted by society since it's beginning.", "The way I remember it was that they deemed you couldn’t be held for an “unreasonable” period of time for a dog. There’s a dog 5 minutes away? You’re waiting. 2 hours? Cop best hope the contraband is in plain sight. \n\nAm I remembering this case completely wrong?", "And simply mentioning that we should not jump to conclusions when judging someone will get you downvoted to hell.", "Doesn’t matter since you sitting in jail for 6 months waiting for a trial caused you to lose your job and house and pops on every background check you’ll ever take.", "any person who worked for so much would kill a cop before handing anything over.\n\nyou read that right FBI nanny.", "Because it doesn't happen to people powerful enough to change the laws.", "Right, but previously once the dog got there, you could pause issuing the citation, have everyone get out, etc. Because that delay was \"de minimus\".. this changed that. \n\nUnder Rodriguez, even when the dog gets there, the officer who stopped cannot pause the continuation of the traffic stop for it's initial purpose unless separate RAS has been formed.", "Cops served a warrant at a house I lived at once. I'm a woman. Mysteriously all my sexy lace lingerie underwear went missing during the search. Police can be SO sketchy sometimes. Sadly I was only a teen so I didn't make a complaint/fuss about it like I would now", "Read up on search and seizure. They make up a crime your money has committed so they can take it. It’s used to combat “drug dealers”.", "> that made some legal sense in rare circumstances to a free pass for police to rob people on a whim. It is a clear example of a real slippery slope.\n\nThe slope is even slippier when the police department get 80% of the seized cash to spend on whatever they want. One police department bought a bunch of big screen tvs and other toys with their civil forfeiture money. If that doesn't motivate police to seize more money than I don't know what is.", "Cash = crimes now lol. Cops do this shit and wonder why people hate them. Veteran was probably a police supporter too, well not anymore haha.", "Damn, I hope they don't see the $20 in my wallet!!!\n\n/s", "don't keep that a secret now....", "If I was a state trooper and they made me do that to people, I would fucking quit. No wonder everyone hates cops. Even an idiot knows a drug dog will hit on US currency.", "Not only that, but he also then placed part of the blame on the dude. Some people really just can't help but lick those boots", "I support cops, I think they have a tough job and they do it admirably most of the time. However, I will never give one the benefit of the doubt that he/she isn’t gonna screw me over. NEVER allow a search of vehicle/residence w/o a warrant, NEVER stick around in an interview capacity at a station if you aren’t being actively detained, and if you ARE arrested or called in for questioning in regards to an ongoing investigation, NEVER say a word until a lawyer is present.", "I do love those! We all should have them <3\n\nI want the black, gay (one is trans) couple to protect their pot plants with their Fully Auto m249 they got next day shipped from amazon prime on their tax free land.", "If cops ever took that much legit money from me and I never got it back things would get very ugly for everyone involved.", "America moment", "Law requires the money to be deposited into an interest bearing account", "https://www.google.com/search?q=officer+charged+with+falsifying+report+based+on+dash+cam+footage&rlz=1C1GCEV_en&oq=officer+charged+with+falsifying+report+based+on+dash+cam+footage&aqs=chrome..69i57.22072j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8\n\nthere are 3 in the first 4 results on google for me. maybe brush up on your google-foo a bit.", "It’s funny. I know you haven’t met any “right wing hypocrites” because they all think the TSA is worthless security theater, a worthless job program, and they know someone who’s gotten through an airport with a knife and/or ammo", "When crypto currency becomes as viable as regular currency and less of just a way to make money then sure.", "The cops made some mistakes on the OJ case but that verdict was 99% because of Judge Ito/ the prosecutors and the mouth breathers they had for a jury.", "This kind of occurrence demonstrates that the US is still a slave holding country. If you are not wealthy, you are a slave. The police are our overseers and can rob us at will.", "Defund", "Mammoth gospel", "This is all over this thread. I want to see the video of the guy who says I'm not waiting for your dog and tries to leave. I'm guessing it's not going to end well. You can argue the law with a cop until you're blue in the face. At the end of the day you're at their mercy.", "but I thought America was great again with biden in office?\n\nI wonder when americans will wake up and understand their country is fucked no matter who is in charge.", "The boots of the state. Comrade", "Cops are the single biggest threat to our constitutional rights.\n\nThey beat you for protesting.\n\nThey kill you for legally carrying a firearm.", "Tyrants have long recognized that it's to their benefit to have access to violent thugs who can be counted on to do the actual dirty work of oppressing people, since that then keeps their own hands relatively clean - both figuratively and literally. And they've also long understood that it's terribly easy to gain and keep the loyalty of those thugs - all they have to do is give the thugs free rein to loot and pillage.\n\nAnd that really is, exactly and deliberately and with malice aforethought, what \"asset forfeiture\" is all about.", "It's an American meme that it's the Mexican Federales who are corrupt.", "Never give police permission to search anything!!", "Guilty till proven innocent… that’s some backwards BS", "Absolutely. I didn't want to sound like I was championing consent under any circumstance, just that there is very little a citizen can do to prevent it. I totally agree with everything you wrote here.", "apparently following a vehicle and driving too slowly means you can be pulled over", "Equating a routine smog check to stop and frisk or immigration checks where the cops are trying to throw you in jail just makes you look stupid and grasping for any possible excuse to consider yourself oppressed.", "I had a friend get pulled over for the smallest rolling stop in mankind. She came to a complete stop, like a block from our apartment, when we parked there was a cop behind us screaming at us. Gave her a ticket for running the stop sign for not stopping a full 2 seconds. \n\nI also live in a TX city that does the point system, so cops are eager as hell to pull you over and give a minor ticket for anything.", "No but I have found my self speeding on the highway. Just going with trafficked and enjoying the drive. Then look down and I'm doing 10 over the limit.", "Since before the US was founded. We simply adopted the seizure laws from the colonial days.", "the only issue I'd say is the FDIC/NCUA limit on bank default ( 300k now I think ) but yeah.", "I think there is plenty of evidence to show that what police are \"legally allowed\" to do and what they actually do (& get away with) can be vastly different.\n\nPeople aren't \"legally allowed\" to drive over the speed limit.", "What idiot keeps $100,000+ in his car? What's going to happen if another car malfunctions, takes his car off the road and it catches fire? \n\nSeizure of money and other assets in the US is a straight out breach of human rights. But of course, the US doesn't subscribe to human rights declarations, so tough shit.", "Civil forfeiture is really a mind boggling concept. Amongst the things in the US that I cannot comprehend, it is at the top. I mean, the US healthcare probably makes more victims, and so do guns, but at least I can understand how the heathcare system is what it is and I also get the reasons behind the guns. \n\nBut the mere concept of civil forfeiture looks like a bad joke. How it can be maintained in a country that is supposed to have, at least theoretically, a decent justice system, is a complete mystery to me.", "His first mistake was answering any of those cops questions. Never ever answer a cops questions. You are just incriminating yourself.", "And some of you guys think it's OK for cops to just steal money from people. Even the courts ended up on disagreeing with y'all. Not out fault you guys have a boot licking fetish.", "He's right, at least in the US. Big banks may screw us over collectively as taxpayers but literally $0 of insured deposits (insured limit is currently $250k) have been lost since the FDIC was founded in 1933.", "Probably a lot of drug related ones with all that cash.", "ALL\n\nCOPS\n\nARE\n\nBASTARDS\n\nAnd this is further proof. Hell, we get proof of this every damn day.", "Oh, understood. That makes sense, as I was only told about the first bit. Thanks for clarifying.", "Civil asset forfeiture sucks", "Ya'll are really living in some kinda 3rd world banana republic huh...", "My guess would be that he doesn't want it in a bank because he's got problems with creditors, the IRS, etc.\n\nEdit: Yep, he's behind on taxes and child support.", "Cops can tell the dog to signal, it's a terrible way of telling if there are drugs", "They would have to find PC. They might try hard but if they don’t have any, most aren’t stupid enough to try to create PC. \n\nAnd nope- nothing to arrest him for. They’d still seize it though.", "I got a dwi a few years back and the shit cops\npocketed the $35 I had in my wallet.", "I wouldn't be so sure about that.", "Dogs aren't only trained on drugs. They can be trained to find bombs, cash, and electronics. A lot of the dogs in the department here are trained to find two different things.", "I agree 100%. I wouldn't ever advocate giving permission, just wanted to correct the earlier post about an individual's power to prevent one from happening.", "Rule number 1 when interacting with law enforcement is always shut your mouth. It blows my mind how open people are willing to be.", "This is just fucking infuriating to watch.", "Bud thats just normal cops", ">A Nevada Highway Patrol stopped Lara over near Reno for following too close to a semi-truck and traveling under the speed limit.\n\nThe entirety of this story is shitty in the most egregious way, but consider the reason why the Nevada Highway Patrol pulled him over in the first place: Following too close to a semi and under the speed limit.\n\nHow can it be both!? If there's a minimum speed limit, he certainly can't go faster than the speed of the truck in front of him; if he's following the truck too closely how can he be going too slow? This sounds like the officers were looking for any excuse to pull him over.\n\nFucking highway robbery. Literally.", "> Nobody said anything about liability. \n\nFor fucks sake. My guy... LIABILITY is what qualified immunity shields individual cops from. They can still be held responsible, nothing stops them from getting fired or otherwise. \n\n>The person you responded to said responsibility, and you literally quoted him saying that.\n\n...and basically told him he was wrong and explained that they are shielded from liability, but by repeating the full definition instead of just the word (because obviously the nuance was going to be an issue) And look at how right I was... \n\nI should have just stuck with my original plan. \n\n>I'm not going to endeavor to teach you nuance.\n\nI was right from the start and this would be an aggravating waste of time. Goodbye.", "The left doesn't have much of a leadership in Congress. They are few in number, and subordinate, structurally, to the center-right Democratic Party leadership. When one of them gets uppity (eg Sanders in the primary, or AOC's recent Israel vote), the corporatist democrats feel that their campaign donations are under threat, and will move heaven and earth to shut it down.\n\nThere is an inherent conflict between the people funding the DNC and the people voting for the DNC, and there is no similar conflict within the GOP. We'll see where it goes.", "I hate to say it, but was he a white male? He looks Hispanic, automatically increasing his odds of a bad outcome.", "Harrumph", "Well, unless it depreciates.", "This is the stuff republicans should actually care about if they really were concerned with freedom and a right to life. But since civil asset forfeiture largely affects minority communities and the poor, it’s never mentioned and is largely ignored. Absolutely disgusting behavior by these cops.", "\"Freedom..\"", "It's called stealing not seizing.", "This is so hard to watch. Everyone should learn to never talk tp the cops and don’t let them search your car. Have them get a warrant. He trusted them and assumed he’d get preferential treatment because he’s ex military but got robbed on the side of the road.", "I remember one of John Oliver's first stories about this. They fucking bought Zamboni and Margharita machine with these money.", "Anyone without money for lawyers would be especially fucked. Which is why police target the poor the most.", "Regardless never consent to searches. What you do in your interaction with a cop during a traffic stop can help or hinder your case later on. Of course cops are able to arrest people for no reason then they have to let them go once they take you to the station. You are also able to sue for wrongful arrest afterwards.", "It's not societal. It's shit cops issue. One cop wanted to return the money like they should have. The supervisor / assisting officers is a crook. The other officer should've reported him years ago.\n\nIt's not just \"one bad apple\" issue.", "> It seems almost taboo to say that those in prison and people going through the court process (guilty or not) do deserve to still have rights \n\nPrisoners lose the right to vote.\n\nEveryone should take a couple of minutes to think through what that means for those with power over legislation and enforcement. \nThink about it in context of statistics on (1) how certain demographics or areas tend to vote, & (2) whether certain criminalised behaviours are more likely within - or more readily enforced upon - said demographics.\n\n> (I have my own moral exceptions to this- but that's unimportant).\n\nTo prisoners having their human rights guaranteed? \nOr to the policing, judicial, and incarceral systems within the USA (and other nations)?\n\n&nbsp;\n\nUnfun Fact: [The USA leads the world in incarceration](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_incarceration_rate#Incarceration_totals,_rates,_demographics), both in absolute and relative terms.\n\n[Here's a cute little graphical representation.](https://mkorostoff.github.io/incarceration-in-real-numbers/)", "Also if cops do something illegal your only recourse is through the court system or calling more cops.", "How the fuck can it be legal for a law enforcement agency to seize cash and property from someone and then receive a portion of those funds as a kick back??!?! This is some fucking bullshit. It's like judges being paid by private prison owners to funnel people to their jails.", "But surely only a Judge/court can decide that? Innocent until proven guilty and all that fun stuff. Cops should only be able to deal with minor stuff, speeding, parking etc.", "you repeat that or \"am i free to go\" until they answer you. simples", "The US government can seize your money at any time without a warrant because you don't \"own\" the monies, the Federal government does.\n\nOne of the many reasons why Crypto is superior IMHO.", "Why bring up irrelevancies, if not in an attempt to (at least somewhat) justify what the shitstain cops did, and continue to do on a regular basis?", "We (help desk) had in state plates and were running new TV displays to a blood center. The cops pulled us over and began stealing our TVs until our manager got on the phone and said they'd be on the news that night with the title \"cops steal from blood center\". Dip shits", "Same!!!!! I moved to TX in 2005 and was here for literally 3 days before getting pulled over for my plates (NY plates). My car was as empty as can be, they tore it apart, held me road side, in cuffs, for near 2 hours. Then they just... let me go. \n\nYears ago I was also in Amarillo, which has a lot of highway drug traffic and I was driving an Infinity. I got pulled over for no reason, searched, and let go. Locals said it was because I had a car that you didn't see in that city so they figure I was trafficking drugs. \n\nTX cops do not give a fuck and will search your car for no reason at all. And troopers are 10 times worse than locals here.", "Fuck these cops and every cop that protects behavior like this. This guy goes and gives his effort to do something for his country only to be robbed by a bunch of fucking thugs. Fuck the Police!", "The cost to fight him was going to exceed the cost to settle. That's it. It's very rare in this increasingly common scenario, but it's the only reason he won. \n\nBody cam and FOIA request for the win!", "Leviathan canon", "If they are calling in a canine and they have reasonable suspicion that the person has a controlled substance in the vehicle they can prolong the vehicle stop. They can't call in a canine unit to build RS or for any reason that's unrelated to the stop and are just trying to find things.", "No, I just don’t agree with infringements on our rights just because people like you want to declare them reasonable.", "Lol, don't do this people. Especially with this reasoning.", "Not justification for random stops though.", "I mean why leave the house, the walking T-1000s will shoot you on sight anyway right", "“I don’t trust banks” what a fucking moron haha", "Gigantic Realities!", "Tip: Use Bitcoin.", "So", "Yea, the evidence would become inadmissible but you can't beat the ride. The 4th amendment has been dead since the war on drugs and \"officer safety\" gives cops legal justification to search you whenever they want. Cops are what the Founders would have called a tyrannical standing army and they are the enemy of the people (especially federal agents).", "Many", "> If using money is a form of speech, then wouldn’t civil asset forfeiture be a violation of the First Amendment?\n\nOnly for those with real wealth. Rules for thee.", "Good points", "Reading that article being able to use laws to gain money by said departments is as corrupt as it gets, strait up how on earth is America the land of the free.\n\nYour law enforcement is as corrupt as they get and it’s mental people still keep voting these nutters who support this kind of policing into power.", "He’s quoting from a comedy special by Bo Burnham.", "Eh, you're still being incomplete with this advice. \"Your Honor, and may it please The Court, shut the fuck up.\"\n\nThat's the full sentence.", "He even had years of receipts. It was obviously not drug money but they just saw $$$ and took it. This makes me so fucking mad.", "Now hold on, truthfully, I don't trust banks. Anyone who deals with that much money should be very closely scrutinized. The whole 2008 debacle is a good reason to not trust the banks.\n\nThat said, I trust myself less with physically holding that much money, and prefer the convenience of using credit/debit cards especially since the bank will always say \"yeah, we'll reverse that charge\" if I get robbed. Its also worth remembering that when the banks fall so does the value of that dollar, so yeah, I get your point completely.\n\nThe biggest issue is that most people think they're more valuable than they are.", "So? Then investigate, and arrest the person based on evidence.\n\nSeriously, what point are you trying to make here, other than trying to shift some of the blame to the victim and away from the piece of shit cops?", "\"The dog alerted on the cash.\"\n\nYou can train a dog to alert on anything. Plus a good number of bills likely have cocaine residue on them.", "There's an awful lot of internet outrage and drama, especially on Reddit, but it all overblows the situation. This shit (and other shit people not from the US believe is rampant here) does happen, but it also doesn't happen to 99.99% of people.\n\nI've never seen or been part of a forfeiture, and I don't know a single person who has. I don't know anyone who has ever been shot, or had a gun pulled on them, or been involved in a school shooting or anything like that. I don't know what else people commonly believe happens in the US, but the internet makes it seem like a land of outrage, outlaws, stupidity, and rampant criminality on every street corner, when it's quite simply not. It's a normal country, completely equivalent on a daily basis to ever other \"Western\" country I've ever visited as far as outrageous, dangerous, and unlawful behavior is considered.\n\nEdit: I'm not saying it's not a problem or nonexistent. I'm just saying that it's not probable enough to be s sensible thing to worry about as a visitor to the US, unless you also worry about your flight crashing or being eaten by sharks.", "Damn, so you don’t trust banks, why don’t you show me it so I can hand it over to the government. You’re a vet right? Yeah so we’ll let them handle it…. \n\nI can only imagine what this guy does nowadays.", "Yeah, cops are all too happy to bring out dogs who will hit and false positive on anything. Numerous studies have shown how often dogs get it wrong, but cops and DoJ offices still love them because it’s a blank check to conduct warrantless searches.", "[SHUT THE FUCK UP FRIDAY!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgWHrkDX35o)", "There was a couple in PA that had their home seized because their kid was selling weed out the house. The courts ruled it was a valid seizure.", "It starts with a stop for smog checks, then they notice the car smells like weed/has a weird thing in the back seat/the person is black, so they then go to search the car under “probable cause”, or by lying to the driver saying they HAVE to search the car (they don’t). \n\nNow it’s turned into an attempt to turn that person into a criminal. It all started with a “smog test”.", "They bank on people not being able to afford to fight for their stolen money. It's extremely corrupt, and most amounts stolen are less than what a lawyer would charge to fight it.", "The US has been flirting with defaulting on its debt for years now, how is that not on the verge of insolvency? It doesn't really matter what the cause of the default is, be it economic or political, the fact that the US continually comes within days or hours of defaulting on its debt means that it can't really be trusted as a stable and reliable financier.", "Fascism", "FYI: For those frustrated like me with the ACLU with their recent \"woke\" transition to stop defending 1A rights among other things, the IJ is a great alternative to donate to.", "That’s a funny joke. Truly hillarious.", "The defeatist attitudes here are just fucking annoying. Yes, some people, many even, end up like this. I guess we should all just give up. WTF.", "He would have been in cuffs by then. \"Are you a fighter?\" The cop is already pegging him as a threat at that point. Former Marine doesn't help. Now the cop is probably scared because this guy can mop the floor with him. It's all a set up from the time he decides to pull the dude over for not cutting him off to pass the truck.", "fortunately ignoring you does", "Civil forfeiture needs to be abolished. So far IIRC, only New Mexico has done so.", "Especially a rented car. Who knows what the fuck might have been dropped in there by the last 150 various drivers.", "Can you leave or otherwise not consent with the smog test? No? Then people are being detained for the smog test.", "Who gives a shit what the intent of the law was? It's a bad law BECAUSE it can be interpreted to allow this.", "I have always said if it was about public safety, cops would be pulling over people who don't use their turn signals and erratic lane changers more than speeders. Someone driving 70 instead of 65 is a lot less likely to raise my death chances compared to someone who cuts me off with no signal. They just go after speeders because it's easier money, nothing to do with safety. Same with red light cams, those things would ticket you for a literal foot, they were not for safety, they were to generate easy money and back it up with a picture, like speeding is backed up by the radar measurement. Just easier, simple money to get.", "Fuck these pigs; go play in traffic", "a lot of the time NOTHING happens even if you extend it out:\n\n[https://www.post-gazette.com/local/region/2021/03/22/pittsburgh-area-police-private-Facebook-group-hostility-hate-posts-blm-transphobic-west-mifflin/stories/202103220056](https://www.post-gazette.com/local/region/2021/03/22/pittsburgh-area-police-private-Facebook-group-hostility-hate-posts-blm-transphobic-west-mifflin/stories/202103220056)\n\n&#x200B;\n\nOh a bunch of openly racist police officers named in the article shall we? West Mifflin Borough Police Department Officer Tommy Trieu. Article dated March 22 2021.\n\nSo let's google him shall we?\n\n[https://newsone.com/3899965/blood-over-students-cops-assault-teen-viral-video/](https://newsone.com/3899965/blood-over-students-cops-assault-teen-viral-video/) (Jan 22 2020 - caught on video assaulting a 15 year old girl)\n\n&#x200B;\n\nsurely he is fired right? Ha of course not", "Yep, they aren't even interested in using the money as evidence because they know it's not evidence, it's just money they want to steal.", "After 6 months. 6 months. Having no money for that long is a death sentence for some people. And they wanted to seize his assets in the middle of a road trip? What would have happened if he didn’t have anyone to contact to wire him money? \n\nAll of this happening is in no way uplifting. All this tells me is that if you’re in this situation, be prepared for a lengthy fight that could possibly lead to nowhere. You could end up winning, but not before paying thousands in court fees. The cops aren’t losing their jobs let alone sleep over this. The only person person losing anything in this scenario is you.", "In which part of the video you should apply shut the fuck up friday?", "Fucking pigs. Disgusting, entitled, negligent pieces of human shit.", "Canada UK and EU all have civil forfeiture laws. All require a court order before it can take place.\n\nNone of this roadside robbery nonsense.\n\nEta: specifically in Canada where I am most familiar with the law (not a lawyer), civil forfeiture is only an option after a person is convicted.", "Maybe we should treat millionaires and billionaires money the same exact way?", "Highway robbery", "don't worry their guns give them all the freedom they need\n\nlaughing at America used to be funny.\n\nnow it's just sad.", "Just a reminder, that in the US that cops steal from people more than criminals do.\n\n[US Police have stolen $68 billion in the past 20 years from American citizens without due process](https://boingboing.net/2020/12/21/us-police-have-stolen-68-billion-in-the-past-20-years-from-american-citizens-without-due-process.html/amp)\n\n> According to their data, local police departments have seized more than $68 billion dollars worth of personal property without due process over the last 20 years. In fact, since 2014, police have been stealing more than actual burglars—and most of that came from people who hadn't been convicted of a crime.", "Literal highway robbery.", "There's a lot of shady dealings, but what's an example of a bank stealing an individuals money. Who was so important that the bank literally took money from a persons savings/checking account? I'm genuinely curious if there was a case that never got remedied.\n\nMost people don't make enough money or have enough in their accounts to be more than a fart for the banking industry.", "Closer to 85 percent", "The guy is completely naive when it comes to police in the US. Give cops an inch and they’ll take 10 miles. Any infringement on our rights should be taken deathly seriously when it comes to the police. I don’t care how “reasonable” someone wants to pretend a smog checkpoint or any other checkpoint is, it’s infringement.", "You love the taste of boot leather, don’t you?", "I tried to explain Civil Forfeiture to my neighbor and he wouldn't believe me.", "Remember, the majority of your friendly GOP congresspersons supports this practice.", "Unequivocally might be too big of a word for them.", "Titanic teachings", "Yeah, this place isn't all that great anyway, hasn't been for decades. I mean we got some dope land, but all the man made stuff we do.. ehhh.", "Are fucked", "Because in the past i didn't cost money to have money in the bank. Banks have been scaling back responsibility and driving up costs. Banks also sometimes fail to reimburse hacked accounts.\n\n [https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/etransfer-fraud-banks-blame-customers-1.5286926](https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/etransfer-fraud-banks-blame-customers-1.5286926)\n\n[https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2021/01/07/hackers-stole-2000-from-womans-account-but-bank-wont-give-her-refund-and-zelle-wont-answer-questions/](https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2021/01/07/hackers-stole-2000-from-womans-account-but-bank-wont-give-her-refund-and-zelle-wont-answer-questions/)\n\n[https://www.investopedia.com/articles/personal-finance/012117/cyber-attacks-and-bank-failures-risks-you-should-know.asp](https://www.investopedia.com/articles/personal-finance/012117/cyber-attacks-and-bank-failures-risks-you-should-know.asp)", "SCOTUS is why civil asset forfeiture exists.", "Am I being detained?!?!?’bb", "It's actually quite smart. Conservatives that \"support the police\" actually only support the police being shitty to people they don't like. With the framing \"they did this to a veteran\" a conservative is now stuck between \"I support the police\" and \"I support the troops\". Sadly, it's the only way to get any movement in this country on this type of stuff.", "This is why I love bitcoin. Good luck finding that, you fucking pig.", "Ahhh yeah that makes sense. I can’t think of any reason to not trust a bank unless you have something to hide, which he clearly does.", "Name some?", "Even if you're completely innocent?", "DAs are cops, not defenders", "I think a lot of things are taken for granted, we're so far removed from such problems that they don't even seem real.\n\n\"Just the way things work\" was not always the case, and won't necessarily continue to be so.", "And…. you lost me..\n\nWe were on the same page for a sec there.", "Lest we also forget about the 4th amendment...", "What? Does money have free will in this case? How can it... what?", "It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.", "No, you are correct.", "They aren't corrupt and it's embracing ignorance to spread this lie.\n\nThey are using federally approved means to take capital out of the hands of the working class and return it to the oligarchs that make sure the police face no accountability and damn near infinite funding (or the police keep it themselves).\n\nWhich part of this is corruption? They are, quite literally, fulfilling their job duties of demanding unjust law and order from American civilians. \n\nDo cops have morals? Most probably have very few, considering they wake up every day and voluntarily choose to enforce violence on behalf of the state, at the expense of their neighbor's well being. \n\nBut a lack of moral conviction/willingness to perpetuate an unjust status quo =/= corruption", "Arrested and Detained are 2 hugely different things.\n\nTechnically, the second an officer pulls you over, you are DETAINED, not ARRESTED unless the officer tells you otherwise.", "What's preventing an individual from filing similar cases? If the evidentiary threshold is so laughably low...\n\nJoe Dirt v. One Million Seven Hundred Thousand Dollars (currently residing inside a Wells Fargo)", ">Right to a Speedy Trial (Sixth) are already dead in the US\n\nI'm security at a hospital and was supposed to testify about a visitor who was charged with I think it was disorderly conduct and assault.\n\nThe ORIGINAL court date was July 2021, I showed up only to find it had been moved to JANUARY 2022 because I guess the defendant wanted to do it online (which generally was an option due to covid), but the judge or someone decided it needed to be in person.\n\nThe original incident happened early March 2020. How the hell am I to give accurate testimony almost two years later? I remember the basics but I don't even really remember what he looked like at this point. All this for a guy mourning the death of his child who shoved some signage and got mildly physical with another guard. It wasn't an acceptable reaction to having to have his temp taken, but still. The wheels of \"justice\" turn at the speed of a dying snail that creeped over a piece of tape.", "What SCOTUS case is this? Would very much like to learn more about the decision.", "I think the reason the amendments mentioned above are ignored is because it’s meant to protect people and give them rights even in their absolute toughest hour as a citizen. However, most people don’t see themselves having these tough hours. Most of the people we’re talking about deem themselves as perfect law abiding citizens where unfairness will never happen to them or rather they’ll never be like “those people”, so why worry about due process, speedy trails, or anything else when you’ll never be affected by it and from their point of view, only gets in the way of “justice”. \n\nGuns and saying whatever you want tho? They absolutely need that.", "Actual traffic stop I was in\n\nIm in a must notify state which means I have to tell officers about every gun in my vehicle during a stop. \n\nCOP: \"any weapons in the vehicle?\" (I carry my hand gun on me, and keep an sbr ar-15 in my truck)\n\nME: \"Yup. Handgun at the 5 o'clock position and ar in the back\" \n\nCOP: \"Can I check the firearms\"\n\nME: \"You do not have my consent to search, seize, or inspect my property. I would like to remain focused on the reason you pulled me over\"\n\nCOP: \"Why two guns?\"\n\nME: \"I don't answer questions\"\n\nHe walked away and came back with a ticket for speeding which was thrown out in court. (75 in a 70)", "You realize that a cop can pull you over if he feels like it, regardless of circumstances, right?", "All I can think of are the idiots goig \"jUsT cOmPlY!\" anytime something outrageous happens.\n\nThis guy complied, and they stole his money with no stratagem or shame. Just \"hey that's pretty nice. It's mine now.\"", "Rambo literally didn't even kill anyone in that movie. It's a excellent movie about PTSD and how we treated veterans from Vietnam. \n\nSucks the sequels made him into a generic killing machine.", "I guess, but if you read other response he’s behind on taxes and child support which is why he “doesn’t trust banks”", "So you don't mean most countries, you mean most western countires, got it. There are plenty of countires in S.A, Africa, and East Asia that are pretty loose with this.", "Regular civilians? Like veterans are different? Haha.", "Where in the world did you get that idea? If you mean the political blustering in the Senate, that isn't real, it's a bunch of blowhards trying to play a game of chicken. There's no real chance of it actually resulting in a default.", "What's a good credit union? I have used them before and they are extremely inconvenient in terms of putting cash in or taking it out. I just use W.F. now and have never had an issue locally or traveling. i just hate banks though, more so big ones but I can't find a way around it when I travel without paying out the ass.", "In this case sure, but if the government takes money from you for any reason, which later turns out to have been a mistake and they return it, they would be required to return the money + interest (I am not sure how exactly the interest is calculated though, but there are calculators online).\n\nFor example, I found out that about 3 years ago I was overcharged on taxes, filled a claim and had the money + 15% interest in my account a month later.", "Skipped right past 4 as well...", "Why does it \"need to be on the books\"?\n\nIf they have to resort to something like this in order to disrupt a criminal enterprise, they need to find a lawful way to do it. Even criminals have rights. You are ADVOCATING that the government be overzealous by arguing \"they should only be allowed to do it when the people have been determined to be guilty without trial...\"\n\nThey shouldn't get a shortcut because the goal isn't to stop all the criminals, even if a bunch of innocent people are negatively affected.", "Then they pull a \"What's this, then?\" And pull a bag of cocaine you've never seen before out of the armrest.\n\n...and subsequently ruin your life for contempt of cop.", "Civil forfeiture is a cross-aisle issue. I've noticed it's one of the few law enforcement issues that comes under fire even in conservative subreddits. I strongly believe that it should be the core issue pushed to the front when discussions of law enforcement reform in the country come up in order to garner more support from a broader base of voters.", ">That being said, thank you to the cops that do the difficult job, the one worth thanking.\n\nYeah thats the problem they all think they're one of the good ones. It's a systemic problem not a individual problem.", "after thousands in lawyer/court fees, possibly missing work, and possibly getting arrested , you MIGHT get the charges dropped?\n\nwow what a justice system", "so edgy", "This is basically what that former Army dude did in Cali years ago when he went all GTA.. did not turn out well.", "The point is you still say no. Yes, the cop might make some shit up like he smelled pot. But this is a starting place for your defense attorney to pick at. If you're not under the influence or they don't order a test, that's immediately pretty fishy. If you happen to be dumb enough to drive high with pot in your car (breaking 2 laws at once, DUI and possession), and the claimed PC was smelling pot on you, you might still be fucked. But you still gain nothing by saying, 'yes.'\n\nIf the cops illegally detain you for something the SC has clearly called unconstitutional, even a lazy pubic defender can get you off or get your plea down to some misdemeanor with no real consequences, at least if you don't talk to the cops after. \n\nEven if the cop lies, there may be some evidence of that lie. I've seen a (granted, very expensive) lawyer ask that the judge exclude the cop from the room (like a 20 minute sequester). During this time the defendant testified, including his own Google maps history. It showed him being held for 60 minutes prior to the time of arrest, and 75 minutes before being transported. When the cop came in to testify he got so many times wrong versus the hard evidence he looked like a liar, and it killed the case. The details were different, and of course the cop was not charged. Point is, he went free and if he'd just said yes to a search he'd be in jail.", "Should someone ever, under any circumstance, comply with an officer's DUI investigation?", "\"Officer Johnson I need you to step it up, if you don't write more citations I don't know how that will look at your next promotion board.\"", "Fuck those pigs!", "Give us an example of those countries' legislature, please", "If we want to get rid of civil forfeiture we just need some activist cops to start taking people's guns on pre-crime charges. I mean, obviously the only reason for owning a gun is to kill someone... /s", "But it'll never happen to me!\n\n&#x200B;\n\n....Right up until it does.....", "Same as taxes!", "I mean, the more guilty you are the more important shutting the fuck up is, right? All you’re doing is providing more evidence that can be used against you.", "You are correct. Regan admin during war on drugs. Who introduced during the misinformed war on drugs era is irrelevant as the one who signed it makes it law.", "Oh well =\\]", "US police: to protect and serve (their own interests)", "I'm pretty sure it usually just goes into a slush fund that can be spent for anything. They steal cash and sometimes use it for parties (which is preferable to increased militarization, but doesn't justify legalized government theft.)", "Yes. Shut up.", "Drug dogs are trained to react to their handlers signals. Their only use is to pretend something is there so the cops can search you.", "Do you trust the federal government? The same one that passed the laws that make it legal for cops to steal your money with \"reasonable cause\"?", "so tell me why all cops aren't bastards", "They don't do this for the reasons the law was created. They do it just to rob people.", "[This video](https://youtu.be/d-7o9xYp7eE) should be required viewing. It is a bit long at 45 minutes but it could save your ass. \n\nLong story short, yea even if your innocent.... Don't talk to the cops.", "Everyone needs to watch this at least one time.", "Yes, but if it does, then you've just lost a lot of money that you shouldn't have.", "Boom. Let’s get beers.", "Imagine if the law actually operated on a “consent of the governed” model. Wouldn’t that be amazing? I sure as fuck don’t consent to police having unchecked, unaccountable power.", "Good advice sparky. But ill take the advice of the criminal defense lawyer and literally every other lawyer that gives this EXACT advice over you, highspeed.", "There are those that use the power of the government to keep those they consider undesirable from power. This is corruption.\n\nIf that wasn't true there would be no homeless veterans.", "It's literally highway robbery. It came to be as a way to combat drug cartels. \n\nNow it is just used by cops to rob people in broad daylight at gunpoint.", "Freedom?", "Agreed. This specific situation is bullshit but having 90k in cash is just asking for something to go wrong. There’s the risk of damage and you’re missing out on the interest you’d get from having it invested.", "That's a really interesting thought. It's not historically unprecedented either, look at Sparta. It also reminds me of how Rome would have all these provinces but only Romans could vote. We occupy a few countries who don't get to vote for the people who will occupy them next.", "Do you mean corrupt cops? Or do you mean codified into law that cops can take your money? Because those are two very different things.", "It does depend a bit on the bank. If you are in a higher end area, which I’m assuming you since you bought a 50k car cash, they are used to things like that.", "Especially if your innocent. Did I stutter? SHUT UP.", "This is an example of power creep that happens with government. The intent was things like, if you rob a bank with guns, well they are going to take those guns; if you have a bunch of servers for ransomware, they are going to take those servers; if you are a drug kingpin, they will take your piles of drug money.\n\nThe way the federal law is written is that the government can take the assets first even before you are guilty. For instance, if you are suspected of being a bank robber, you don't get to keep the guns and cash to potentially commit more crime or start laundering your money.\n\nThat was the intent. They've since creeped up and said pretty much EVERYTHING even with an ancillary connection to a suspected crime is up for grabs. Getting a prostitute? The car is part of the crime. Selling drugs? The house is part of the crime.\n\nThe Supreme Court has signalled that they are ready to strike this down in their majority opinion last time CAF came to them. In that case, they basically said that you can't forfeit assets worth more than the fines of the crime. But that's still too narrow and need a better case to address. So far, everyone has been waiting for a clear cut case for the courts to address it, but every time, the government drops the case and returns the money, causing a loss of standing.", "Nope. Cops have proven that they are incapable of not abusing this tactic, so they should lose it. That's why it's a bad law.\n\nIf you want to take someone's property, convict them of a crime. No more shortcuts.", "I really really hate cops. I will never talk or\nCooperate with them. Advice from multiple lawyers..", "LMAO", "Aber naturlich!", "> Can you leave or otherwise not consent with the smog test? No? Then people are being detained for the smog test.\n\nYes, people are perfectly free to leave the smog test. Again, no one is being detained.", "2/3rds of the US population lives within the 100 mile border zone.", "That expands well beyond policy brutality and to the concept of privacy as a whole. There are genuinely people who can't fathom being private without the motivation of concealing a crime.", "While there is nothing inherently wrong in what you have posted here I just wanted to mention something; but first I want to preface this to say I don't agree with it but it is what it is.\n\nImmediately being verbally combative or dropping the lawyer / rights bomb right out of the gate is more likely to escalate the situation than anything. \n\nOnce you have been pulled over by the police you are legally obliged to give them your license and registration. So unless you are a legit bad guy there is no harm in giving your name. They are going to get it from your license anyways.\n\nIf they ask you how fast / why you think you are being pulled over simply say ~~\"I don't know. Can you please clarify that for me?\"~~ Edit: I am also wrong, please see the discussion below.\n\n> Answer: \"I'm not hiding anything\n\nThis is incorrect, you just gave police information to use against you. Assuming they get a warrant and do find something in your car then you now have a lying to the police charge.\n\nThe safest thing is simply repeating Am I free to go? to any question other than seeing your license and registration.", "This is the consequence of corporations and billionaires not paying their fair share of taxes. \n\nPolice departments scramble for money and start taking it out of the poor. \n\nLook up the \"Failed Kansas Experiment\") [source 1](https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/10/tax-trump-kansas/542532/), [source 2](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/dec/10/donald-trump-kansas-failed-tax-cuts); where Kansas was looking at declaring bankruptcy\n\nIn addition to [Doctors](http://www.modernhealthcare.com/article/20151213/news/151219951) and [Teachers](http://cjonline.com/opinion/2016-06-15/editorial-kansas-needs-attract-more-licensed-teachers) leaving Kansas because young professionals wanted an area where there are safe roads, safe water, good public schools. The police force moved to a [policing-for-profit](http://ij.org/press-release/kansas-earns-acanadacana-in-acanapolicing-for-profitacana-report/) model using some of the worst [civil forfeiture programs](http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2016/feb/15/kansas-criminal-forfeiture-law-among-nations-tough/) in the country to try to rescue falling revenue. \n\nA a death spiral of cutting taxes on the rich/corporations -> loss of revenue -> cutting services -> water/air/roads/schools degradation -> leaving professionals/businesses -> loss of revenue -> cut more taxes -> more loss of revenue -> etc. up to the point that Kansas was looking at declaring bankruptcy.", "Hello I am the wallet inspector. Please give me your wallet for inspection", "And an overwhelming number aren't bullshit ones like this in the video. Imo asset forfeiture has its use, but there should be a due process beyond what it currently is. I also don't think assets that are seized should go to the police department.", "yeah just drive away see how that goes. or sit and wait for the dog for them to tear apart your car and charge you with whatever they can. have fun fighting it in court", "Dude just lost about 10k$ due to inflation.", "\n>Get out of the dollar and get out banks. Screw them and protect yourself from the increasing corrupt federal government.\n\n1000 people own 40 percent of the Bitcoin market. \n\nYou don't still can't pay gas with Bitcoin. Still can't use Bitcoin at CVS in a quick and fast manner", "The border thing is crazy. 100 miles from the actual border is The area border patrol can operate in, and it’s a special kind of fucked up rules for what they can do.\n\nThey setup stops on the freeways in southern New Hampshire every so often.\n\nSomething 90% of Americans live in the zone.", "They can’t arrest you for refusing a search. If they do you can sue them.", "Maybe not the best idea to keep all of your life savings on you in cash. Inflation would make it basically worthless in time, this just expedited the process.", "\"cash forfeiture\". That's a funny name. It didn't look like that guy forfeited his cash. Looked more like the cops robbed him.", "Let's be real here, if there is a bank run in this day and age you can guarantee that any administration, Republican or Democrat would bail them out within hours. And it's hard to make the case for hoarding cash on an article about a man who literally lost it all for doing precisely that.", "serious question.\n\nwhy would you carry around your life savings in cash when it's a really minimal cost to transfer around this stuff in the banking system?", "Poker of course! Sometimes hi-stakes Go-Fish.", "The lawyer was the Institute for Justice, they did it pro bono so Steven didn't lose any money in the end.", "I like you. Lefties and righties can be friends. Unity achieved.", "Civil Forfeiture is just legalized armed robbery by ~~Thug~~ \"police\" departments to fill their coffers at will.", "Not only does he rob a man but he instills fear in the general public. \n\nWhat if you are driving to buy [a car](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/31/us/federal-agents-money-forfeiture.html) and the seller wants cash? [Buying land](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/highway-robbers-how-trip-buy-farmland-ended-police-taking-all-n1281629)? How about a[ semi truck](https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix/2021/11/09/jerry-johnson-lost-39500-civil-forfeiture-case-fights-get-back/6345601001/)? And there are thousands of other examples. \n\nYet a rich guy driving a $400k SUV, with a $250k watch on his wrist has nothing to worry about. Cops aren't going to yank him out of the car and make him prove that the watch and car didn't come from illegal proceeds. Leave him on the side of the road, with a piece of paper and a phone number.", "It's comical, really. They teach the dogs to hit on money. They can smell your cash, the cash is enough. If a cop needs a dog, it means he didn't find anything. The dog is only an excuse in a traffic stop. It's not like the dog works at an airport terminal, or a border crossing, there is no need for it at all. And people suck at hiding shit, especially while they're driving. The dogs are, and have always been, a scam. The dog gets rewarded and he always hits, even if there is nothing there. I've seen it, firsthand. It's a weak, minimal justification by stupid cops who are committed to screw with people because they work for a prison state and the depts budget literally depends on the revenue they generate. Hell, if you live in bfe, your entire county might depend on the revenue.\n\nWhen are cops ever useful? They show up late to standoffs, barely do shit. When they do engage, it's sloppy and dangerous. They act with impunity and get rewarded with immunity. All they do is drive around and harass people, with tickets, or beat them up, or kill them. They solve like zero crime. \n\nIt did occur to me that they are first responders, the first on a wreck, etc. But then I was like, hey, the don't do shit in those situations. And they're poorly suited to be the first responder. Gun, mace, tazer, cuffs, baton, none of this shit is useful here. They do have a radio. Which they use to call real help. Whoopty do, basil, literally everyone in the world has one, or it's more useful cousin, the phone. They're just there. We could just pay actual EMTs to do it, they'd be way better at it. Instead we have to deal with this shit. Took half the dept to come rob this guy. Took all morning. Worth it, tho, right? Look at the money they scored!", "And the usual amount they take is around 600$, so people drop it because it isn´t worth the fight.", "No, there isn't anything in them that can be magically picked up by any modern technology. They'd have to have active RFID chips or similar in them, like toll passes. And they don't.", "The 6th is definitely still in place... It's just redundant. I mean, you can demand a fast trial, but it's usually against a defendant's best interest. \n\nAlso, people obsess over the 1A and 2A as those are regarded as the backstops against tyranny. So long as those are protected, the system shouldn't be able to fully consolidate power and lead to tyranny.", "Putting it in evidence would suggest that they had any suspicion that the cash was actually involved in some sort of drug trade. They did not. They know it was legal, but they were hoping they would get to keep it somehow. (cleaning people out sometimes means they don't have access to lawyers to contest the seizure).", "And that's why they decided that civil asset forfeiture isn't a \"crime.\"", "This is not legal advice and does not constitute an attorney client relationship. Laws in your state or country may vary. \n\nYou may wish to give a sample of your blood/breath or urine (not on the side of the road, only at the actual testing site) so that you don’t get a longer license suspension but all the field sobriety test and questions should not be engaged in. Name and ID. Shut up. Lawyer, done.", "r/technicallythetruth", "There was one that was like \"U.S. vs. 22,615 lbs. of raw fish.\"", "Grownup Cartman is much more respectable than this.", "My dad freaked about this when I was a teen and experimenting with weed lol. Like really? But I guess he was on to something", "The war on drugs has led to serious overreach by the government to the point where traveling around with too much money is an issue. Not to get all preachy but if you can’t see the paralleled between the war on drugs effort snd the covid mandates you are an idiot. No one is arguing the validity of the virus except for marginal fringe crazies but they always exist. However we should all question the extent to which the government acts and where that will lead.", "I hope everyone up votes this. Terrible crooked people of power", "This is good for Bitcoin.", "But the cops are bad here. Is it a law that we can't money in a car? or not in bank? no? Then fuck off.", "Oh yeah 100%. Just because a cop is going to make it hard on you doesn't mean you should make it easy for them. \n\nBit fucked up you essentially have no rights when talking with police and only have recourse after the fact if you have enough money to sue", "She was a stripper for years and only saved 10 grand? Must not have been a very good one. Sure you're not missing a zero?", "Use bitcoin", "\"Not illegal to have currency\" by the looks of it, it seems it is... So messed up.", "That's really not relevant to the discussion but ok.", "Well yeah he is a cop.", "Just what the founding fathers would have wanted: seizing your personal property until you can prove that you're innocent!", "My roommate in college was pulled over with about $5k in cash in his backpack. He was on his way to purchase a used truck. He had driving directions to the seller's home. He had a printout of the Craigslist ad. He had text messages between himself and the seller. He had temp tags in his backpack. Didn't matter.\n\nHighway patrol pulled him over as he crossed the state line claiming that he did not signal on a lane change and was therefore operating recklessly. They held him on the side of the road for an hour until a K9 showed up and (supposedly) alerted. They seized everything. I had to drive almost four hours to pick him up that night. It took an entire semester to get his bike back. To my knowledge he was never able to recover the money, his laptop, or even the stanley thermos that he had on him.", "Thank God we have police to defend us from the horrors of checks notes a man with some cash.", "Fuck these utter cunts, this is why people hate cops. What value are they adding. Some guy who has done nothing wrong, is a vet, and proof of the money's source and they spend hours on the side of the highway trying to figure out how to steal his money.\n\nAlso, how is this dog \"hit\" bullshit admissible anywhere. It's a dog, the money is covered in its handlers scent and he put it in a field. Omg the dog found it in an empty field, wow, 100% this mean the entire 100k was used in drug transactions and I guess what, it was rolled around in a dryer with weed.\n\nFucking cunts!!!!!\n\nThey just need to fund the police so they can stop shaking down regular citizens.", "uh you are not doing anything illegal? that's suspicious", "What ever happened to innocent till proven guilty", ">be excited about the prison rape they will face.\n\nIts the only socially acceptable torture left in our society. Grow the wrong plants, have some rape, haha don't drop the soap scumbag. \n\nOnly for men though, women getting raped in prison is still bad(don't get me wrong it still happens) but men getting tortured by other mentally unstable men caused often times by their inhumane conditions, is funny. \n\nKnow a poor kid that was having a troubled teen experience. The local big manufacturer had lots of trucks, and as policy just left the keys in them to make it easy. So every kid in town pretty much knew that all blue trucks had the keys left in them. Need a ride borrow a car, and leave the keys in it when your done. Instead of locking the trucks up, the company called the cops, and a special taskforce was set up, arrest all the kids. Well he got caught, parents couldn't get 5k to get the kid out, got tore up in jail, hospital visits and everything. Last I heard kid was still working through the system, the two suicide attempts kind of slowed the whole trial thing down, then covid hit. Hes spent going on 3 years in county jail now awaiting trial, from what his dad said getting abused the whole time. \n\nFuck the Oligarchs, Fuck the Police. Not a left/right thing, its a human vs monsters thing.", "Yes, thanks to the war on drugs, we no longer have an effective bill of rights in this country. \n\nAnd before someone says \"but I don't do drugs, so I don't have to worry!\"; neither does, at least as far as these cops knew, this gentleman. That didn't stop those policies from infringing on his rights - even if in the end his outcome was positive.\n\nI don't get how to get it through people's heads that I oppose the war on drugs for reasons beyond wanting to do shrooms in my free time. We simply don't live in a free country so long as any odd smell, bulge in my pocket, or hell - just having symptoms from a migraine when talking to a cop is enough for them to search me, detain me, or (attempt to) confiscate my property on nothing more than suspicion of guilt. All of these things are violations of the 3rd, 4th, and 5th amendments.\n\nAlcohol prohibition required a constitutional amendment, and the Supreme Court, prior to the 60s, consistently found that marijuana prohibition laws passed by congress were unconstitutional. The war on drugs should never have lived up to legal challenge and it only did because our legal system has biases against progressives and minorities.\n\nEdit: the enforcement of the CSA directly violates the 3rd though 6th and 8th amendments; it also indirectly violates the 2nd amendment rights of individuals convicted for possession or use of drugs, and the 1st amendment rights of individuals who believe drug use plays a role in their religious tradition (exceptions have been made, and exceptions were made to alcohol prohibition as well). This leaves only 3 of 10 amendments not forfeited because of a single, wholly unconstitutional, Congressional overreach.\n\nEdit 2: removed one sentence for being misleading.", "I think about it this way: Biden is extremely committed to being a \"moderate Democrat\" - whatever that means at the time.", "I believe that's correct but I don't think they determined what \"unreasonable\" time is. Kind of a \"I'll know it when I see it\" situation which can be abused by police and judges", "As soon as an officer asks if you have any large amounts of cash that's an instant red flag they are trying to steal from you. That's all civil forfeiture is at a traffic stop, attempting theft by the government.", "Its both. We have to dismantle the system that created them and punish those that it created.", "“Corrupt cops” is redundant.", ">Money is not.\n\nno doi,\n\nit's speech", "What were they looking for?", "I think they call it a press pass. What does that have to do with cops?", "You know that's not a crime right? How deep is that boot down your throat? why do you hate freedom?", "Nevada Highway Patrol are modern day pirates. They wait in their tiny dirt towns for some sucker coming back from Vegas to go 3mph over the speed limit. They then pull them, search them, and take any large amounts of money they find. They'll pretend they don't know the gambling Mecca of the world is just south of them and claim it's drug money. The money then funds their police departments, which consist of a handful of cops all running the same scam.", "However, they can't pull you over for excessive noise from your car stereo or exhaust system. Despite law's enacted that allows them to do so.\n\nSource: Me, based on everywhere I've lived in the shithole commonly referred to as \"Texas.\"", "You’re uninformed if you think that’s a weird thing to say.", "You want to put your USD into something that’s volatile and filled with scammers because you don’t trust the US government. \n\nNo matter how many of these stories come out I would still trust the USD over a system that looks to make money out of thin air. No effort, not real product, no nothing. It’s a scam that’s holding value cause we’re all greedy not because it’s actually offering anything worthwhile to the world.\n\nA person working 40 hrs a weeks is creating value, Crypto is just a new kind of ponzi scheme", "Also all the people who are clutching their pearls about the first amendment think you should be able to use racial slurs without consequence but if you actually criticize the government they’ll just tel you to leave the country.", "Welcome to the USA where in exchange for low, low taxes you get \"police\" who depend upon Byzantine civil forfeiture laws to supplement their budgets and are happy to employ thugs with badges to shake honest people down.", "Really simple. Don't cross borders which cash? It's 2021 jeez.", "Christopher dorner", "Civil asset forfeiture. Brought to you by the War on Drugs!", "You will literally let cops do anything.", "In Canada they have an Askov rule (based on the decision by the supreme court where a guy named Askov got his conviction overturned due to prosecutorial delays). The crown has (roughly) 18 months to bring someone to trial from the time they are charged (delays by the defense do not count towards that time). I thought the US had a similar rule.", "It unfortunately does not usually have a happy ending like that. I know at least one couple that had their apartment raided a few years ago in an attempted drug bust, the police had the wrong apartment which they later admitted, but while searching they found the couple's open and unlocked safe in the bedroom, which contained all of their savings. This couple didn't trust banks or the stock market, had lost tens of thousands in the 2008 crisis and instead had put most of their savings into buying gold, silver and keeping cash. The team seized all of it under civil forfeiture, and even though they had the wrong house, they somehow used some bullshit about the gold, silver and cash itself being evidence of criminal activity to justify it. \n\nMy takeaway is, the police have been given a blank check to seize whatever valuables that they find, which helps pay for the full plate surplus LARP gear and surplus MRAPs worth $600K+ that they absolutely need to do their jobs, while also ensuring that they can get double and triple time hours to make $190K/yr on a $70K/yr salary.", "What kind of dumbass criminals are still using cash to smuggle drugs? I thought that's what Bitcoin was for.", "They don't do it to big businesses because they have lawyers. They have done it to smaller businesses all the time. \n\n\nhttps://www.huffpost.com/entry/irs-structuring-civil-asset-forfeiture\\_n\\_573b908de4b0aee7b8e83ae3", "This the freedoms he fought for, conservatives?", "I'm not trying to be pedantic here but its important to make this clear because the problem is bigger than corrupt cops. The reality is, the cop here is NOT corrupt. He's actually following legal procedure.\n\nWhat's corrupt is the law itself in this case. Everything from the Court System's refusal to put an end to this, to the terrible relationship between the federal government and local police forces (Because Nevada does actually block CF--which is why they use thee DEA work around). The fix for this needs to come from the top down, we need a federal ban and major ruling against the constitutionality of CF.", "Called my local police station asking how I could avoid civil asset forfeiture and was told \"don't look like a criminal.\" When asked how I could do that, I was told that's departmental techniques and policy and they won't divulge that information.\n\n...so basically up to officer discretion as to who they want to legally steal from.", "Right so if I got stopped at this checkpoint and told them I don’t consent to the smog test I’d just be let go? I sincerely doubt that’s the case. Kinda makes the point of a checkpoint irrelevant.", "The police hate our troops!\n\nRepublitard brains explode everywhere…", "And that dog will also scratch the living hell out of your doors as it 'searches' too. I've seen videos of them searching cars, they're clawing up on the doors, hood, trunk, everywhere and that's all clear coat scratches at the least that will have to be buffed out later.", "> I am very right wing politically, but fuck cops, our justice/legal system, and our government.\n\nAnd you haven't figured out that that shit is entirely your own god damned fault?!?\n\nRight wingers are morons and monsters.", "Cops are fucking trash.", "Yeah, there's not much of a difference between police and gangs except the courts back up the police. Gangs often help in their communities and provide a level of safety (from other gangs and police).\n\nIt's also not like we don't fund the shit out of police departments so it isn't like they're \"just scraping by.\"\n\nIf a gang member shoots a rival gang member, there's a decent chance they'll go to jail if caught. If a cop shoots an innocent person fleeing from them, there's a decent chance charges won't even be filed.", "> This is why you don't speak to police.\n\n[DO NOT](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE) \n\n[TALK TO THE POLICE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIt-l2YmH8M)", "Cops who do this type of thing are sociopaths who don't care about hurting innocent people.\n\nChange my mind.\n\n>Stephen did nothing wrong. He isn't charged with any crime *and the government isn't even willing to defend this seizure in court.\n\nHowever...\n\n>It was only after Lara sued the DEA for blowing its deadline to either give him his cash back or file a forfeiture case against it in federal court, and only after The Washington Post post reported on his case, that the government agreed to return his money\n\nMakes you wonder how many seizures would be overturned if publicized & challenged... They DEPEND on most people being unable/unwilling to fight back!!!", "[Yes.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Civil_War)", "Which is why you say \"no\" to the request to search your vehicle in the first place, (1) so they don't get into your vehicle for free, and (2) so that your attorney can argue that they had neither permission nor probable cause to get into your vehicle in the first place.", ">Yet a rich guy driving a $400k SUV, with a $250k watch on his wrist has nothing to worry about. Cops aren't going to yank him out of the car and make him prove that the watch and car didn't come from illegal proceeds. Leave him on the side of the road, with a piece of paper and a phone number.\n\nOr, if they do, he doesn't give a shit because he'll just make a phone call for some more of his money. Reminds me of how with capital punishment, inevitably someone innocent will die as collateral, with this law enforcement cash grab, some innocent people end up broke. It's worth it to them to ruin some lives as long as the funding keeps rolling in. I bet it gets a lot more depressing if we looked at what they actually spend that money on specifically.", "Same with inland non international border checkpoints.", "Fuck da police.", "If they act unlawful then you fight it in court. Just like guy in OP's video did", "the cops want it", "I remember reading about how a lot of the more obviously shady ones constantly change their companies in order to prevent any particular person from being charged, IDK I vaguely remember, but know it wouldn't be so easy in Canada because we've somehow taken what the DMV is in America but made it ALL OF THE GOVERNMENT and removed too atrocious of lines from our version of the DMV. We also sprinkled a little bit of the British beaurocracy in there by only offering contact options that don't solve anything(if calling) or take weeks for a response(via email), the email response is also from a do not reply email and probably doesn't answer your question. \n\n\nBUT that's only if there's problems questions or concerns, if you do everything right and they do everything right it'll go right through in 2-14 weeks(with no contact)! \n\n\nLuckily our health care system is pretty solid and doesn't involve those waits.", "Hey, herd mentality seems to work pretty well in this case! Criminals protect criminals.", "I've been waiting for a trial for over a year. It has completely ruined my life. I can't sign up for school because I don't know if I'll be able to finish the semester. I live in an area that I can't find a job in my field and am stuck with jobs that pay $8/hr., part time, because I can't afford to move anymore. My savings have been wiped out, my marriage is strained, I have three broken crowns but can't get insurance, and I'm honestly finding it hard to keep going everyday.", "Seize? Don't you mean STEAL!?", "> Right so if I got stopped at this checkpoint and told them I don’t consent to the smog test I’d just be let go?\n\nYes, you could go. Your car could not. It's the same as the fruit inspection stops at state borders looking for agricultural pests.\n\n> Kinda makes the point of a checkpoint irrelevant.\n\nIt doesn't since the car is not allowed to go on. It achieves the objective of not allowing smog spewing cars to operate.", "As someone who's been beaten by the police before just because I tried to exercise my rights to pleading the 5th, I can see it's hard to ever trust another police officer after you're wronged by one. So many people are victimized by the police, it's becoming a big issue.", "People have also been brainwashed. If everyone realized who the system served, they'd want to change it.\n\nPolice have to keep the veneer of not being completely corrupt. Similar to our politicians.", "No, the real enemy of the people wear suits. Who do you think came up with civil asset forfeiture? It wasn't a cop. It was our current president.", "Did this guy get his moneez back, or should we start a gofundme?", "In one case of a person possessing a small amount of drugs, the cops seized their parents house since they were living there at the time.", "keeping all your savings in cash is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.", "So weird to me that people freak out about weed being illegal yet do nothing to change it", "Reddit moment lmao.\n\nI wonder how many of you have even remotely close to any idea of what being in a gang is like.", "I think I would like to live in the US…..then I see this and think….nah.", "Small government in action. /s", "Drugs most likely.", "The messed up part about civil forfeiture is that it’s not you who is on trial, it’s your money. This means that there is no presumption of innocence and even if you manage to get it back my suing, they don’t have to cover your legal fees.", "And we have our current president to thank for this.\n\nYou can downvote all you want. It doesn't make it false. \n\nhttps://fee.org/articles/how-a-young-joe-biden-became-the-architect-of-the-governments-asset-forfeiture-program/", "Anger over Rodney King and Mark Fuhrman's love of the N-word got OJ off.", ">PG county police and courts are corrupt af\n\nThey all are just to varying degrees. And all you lawyers/cops of reddit that say don't lump me in with the bastards, fuck you. Your inside the gates, and you pretend like all the asshats are not part of the system, no their just as part of the system as you are, your complicit in their crimes if they stand in the castle with you. Grow a backbone and either kick them out, or leave. \n\nProof that the \"good\" enforcers of the oligarchs are not doing this. Just look up how many insiders referred other cops lawyers or judges to disciplinary actions in their bar's(clubs). Its a minute number, bet nobody referred any of the cops or lawyers involved in this case for any discipline(as week as that is).", "Isn't it only over $10K. I think you're going to be alright.", "What the fuck, they have random smog check checkpoints? What if I'm on my way to fucking work? People below are defending this shit? What the fuck?", "I hope this gains more traction. This is an incredible injustice that occurs everywhere. I wish this issue will be spotlighted more and addressed sooner than later. Like we need more reasons to distrust LEO.", "Yeah, a emergency fund. Not your entire savings", "Cops stole my cash rent money claiming it was drug money and I would have had to pay a fee of 10% of the cash value to even try to dispute it in court. My lawyer looked at it and said “you’ll end up paying more to the court and me than this two months of cash rent is worth” so I just had to drop it and be out $2400. As a college student, it crippled me.", "I feel like if money can be accused and found guilty since it can't defend itself, then it should have 5th Amendment rights.\n\nAnd if the money is found \"not guilty,\" then the police must pay all fees. With interest.", "You a cop or something?", "The “byeeeeee” got me! Thanks for that", "And you would almost always lose your life savings \"investing\" into crypto. You would also find yourself unable to spend any money since no one anywhere (within reason) accepts crypto for day to day expenses.", "I think Chase Bank was one of the banks that held some of the loans that Haiti used to pay back France after they got kicked off of the island for the whole \"enslaving a large portion of the population and raping the land of resources\" thing...\n\nThe UK, the US and France strongarmed everyone into refusing to trade with Haiti until reparations were paid. Servicing that debt kept the country poor and contributed significantly to the continued instability there (along with continual US interventionism into their politics.) \n\nJP Morgan and Chase merged a while back... So, that's what JP Morgan did. I'm sure they also supported Redlining and then underwrote a bunch of the predatory adjustable rate mortgages that were aimed at immigrants and people of color which led to the 2008 recession and the greatest transfer of wealth in the history of the world...\n\nAny nationwide bank almost certainly has blood on their hands in one way or another...", "The Fascism is already here.", "How can it be my fault, if I disagree with it happening? I'm a libertarian. A right leaning one. I want everyone to be free to pretty much do what they want as long as they don't harm anyone else's freedom. There is way more than just left and right. You bi partisan types are the issue.", "[A friendly reminder that our current president had a major hard on for civil asset forfeiture and pushed this shit as hard as he could.](https://fee.org/articles/how-a-young-joe-biden-became-the-architect-of-the-governments-asset-forfeiture-program/)", "That would take work. And most of the time, the cash would be legal and they wouldn't get to keep it. \n\n\n\"Otherwise it seems to me most of these cases are them letting people traffic drugs and then just reaping their profits once they’ve sold them.\" \nThis is the correct answer.", "Anonymity fuels a mob vigilante mentality.", "Except it's completely different. A health inspection doesn't delay you from your destination for over 20 minutes. Hope you didn't have an appointment to get to, or have to be at work on time. That is freaking insane, how can you defend this?", "No, this is much more common than you would think. They can take more than money: computers, guns, cars, phones, clothing, etc. Anything that they \"suspect was used in a crime.\" My local pd recently tried to get permission to use stolen MacBooks to outfit one of their new riot vehicles. Thankfully the plan leaked and got shut down really fast but this stuff is going on constantly. It doesn't happen to everyone but it happens to a lot* of people in the US and it is definitely something that people should know about police here", "You assume that they will or even have to give you a straight answer to that. But even if they lie and say you are being detained, they still are unlikely to give you a straight answer as to why; I'm not sure they even have to tell you, legally speaking. On top of that, you could do everything right while they do everything wrong and you still end up with a fine while they get a promotion. \n\nThere is nothing you as a lone civilian can do that will get a cop in trouble. We only consequences for shit now because everything gets recorded and people, rightfully, go bananas over their wrongdoings", "It’s not. Just like people saying they’re a single mom. Trying to garner sympathy or credibility.", "On reason more to buy Bitcoin", "The whole universe will die eventually, so you wouldnt mind if someone shot you right now right?", "A man was robbed at gunpoint by lawless highwaymen and marauding thieves.\n\nThat's what happened here, a literal highway robbery.\n\nTrooper Brown of the Nevada Highway patrol is a common thief and a highwayman.", "That literally made me sick.", "Very good videos. Yes. You are correct", "That’s not the point. The fact is that traffic violations are their bread and butter and eventually fewer human drivers will equal fewer fines. They’re going to make up that money somewhere.", "Borders? This is the US, for gods sake.", "And then he kicked a dog and shot a man in a wheelchair 8+1 times", "You have a few hundred years of the American \"dream\" to thank for this.", "Borders? This is the US, for gods sake.", "I know this isn't the agency at work here, but US CBP likes to use the border exclusion area to toss your rights out the window.\n\nhttps://www.aclu.org/other/constitution-100-mile-border-zone", "That bill died in committee. Do you have one that actually became law? \n\nThe full text isn't available, but the summary indicates that civil forfeiture was already in place and this was a bill to reform an activity that was already in place. Without the text of the bill you can't claim it was one thing or the other and since it died in committee it looks like that point is moot anyway. \n\n> A bill to reform Federal criminal and civil forfeiture.", "That's all well and good but the second I drive away my car would be lit up and if I'm not killed in the gunfire I'll go to prison for the rest of my life for felony evading. As if coppers give a fuck about Supreme Court decisions.", "Civil Asset Forfeiture rakes in billions every year. As of 2015, the amount of money stolen from American people by law enforcement (over $5 billion) has surpassed that of actual burglaries ($ 3.5 billion). Over the past 20 years, state and federal governments acquired more than $68.8 Billion.\n\nSome light reading:\n\n* [Washington Post - Law enforcement took more stuff from people than burglars did last year](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/11/23/cops-took-more-stuff-from-people-than-burglars-did-last-year/)\n\n* [Institution for Justice - New Report Finds Civil Forfeiture Rakes in Billions Each Year, Does Not Fight Crime](https://ij.org/press-release/new-report-finds-civil-forfeiture-rakes-in-billions-each-year-does-not-fight-crime-2/)\n\n* [Institution for Justice - Policing for Profit (Source)](https://ij.org/wp-content/themes/ijorg/images/pfp3/policing-for-profit-3-web.pdf)", "Cops man, they’re just another gang", "I would point towards the 2008 financial crisis where they literally stole homes from people or more explicitly, the Wells Fargo incident where they forced their workers to open up accounts in customers names to charge them fees. If the argument is that banks don't just disappear your money, then sure, but it seems like a strange carve out.", "Do you have any examples from recent history? The only examples I can think of are in response to rioting and looting and not lawful protests but I'm open to learning more.", "Holy shit that cop", "That makes sense! I felt this had the mark of Reagan.", "This is fucking disgusting. \n\n\nThis is straight up theft. \n\n\nLike, there's literally no other name - this is the US government committing a crime!", "Even more realistic, they just won't answer.\n\n\"Am I being detained?\"\n\n\"I just want to get this cleared up.\"\n\n\"But am I being detained?\"\n\n\"I don't want to make this any harder for you than it has to be, okay? We're both busy people, I don't want to be here any more than you do.\"\n\n\"But am I being detained?\"\n\n\"You need to calm down. Please just answer my questions, okay? Can you do that?\"\n\n\"Huh? I'm totally calm. Am I being detained, though?\"\n\n\"-Radio Static- Yeah, I'm going to need backup to traffic stop at mile 601 on I-5, subject is being aggressive, may have weapons.\"\n\n\"Weapons, what weapons? What are you---OW OW STOP PLEASE I'M NOT---\"\n\n\"STOP RESISTING!\"", "State sanctioned robbery. But real talk, please don't keep 100K in your trunk, you might not trust banks, but at least they don't pull this type of shit.", "This makes me sick and legitimately upset", "> No, I just don’t agree with infringements on our rights just because people like you want to declare them reasonable.\n\nLol, but you don't give a single shit about the rights being violated by the people spewing smog into the air. What a typical shitstain conservative, \"freedom means I get to do whatever I want and you have to suffer the consequences\".", "No, they're just trying to seize your car. Not your person.\n\nNo big deal then. /s", "That's why removing those limits is such a terrible idea. It WILL be abused and we WILL have to bail them out again.", "Lmao. You should come, don't let Reddit sway your opinions, everything on this site is tremendously susceptible to mob outrage and things get blown out of proportion every single day.\n\nIf you're coming to the US to tour/visit this almost never happens.", "Actually true. The US is kinda a shithole country now. We've fallen behind on every metric and it's not slowing down anytime soon.", "I mean I've had my actual banker look me in the eyes and say that I shouldn't trust the fdic to make me whole if something happened to my money.", "The bill that Crystal_City cited died in committee. \n\nThe full text isn't available, but the summary indicates that civil forfeiture was already in place and this was a bill to reform an activity that was already in place. Without the text of the bill you can't claim it was one thing or the other and since it died in committee it looks like that point is moot anyway. \n\n> A bill to reform Federal criminal and civil forfeiture.\n\nSo I too am interested, but that link ain't it,", "I’m as liberal as they come buddy, fuck the police.", ">No matter how many of these stories come out I would still trust the USD over a system that looks to make money out of thin air. \n\nThe irony of that statement is strong. The US dollar is fiat, it has nothing backing it but US military might. It was based on Oil, but the current President is firmly in the Great Resetter camp, is doing everything possible to remove oil which is alienating OPEC (Nigeria and Saudi Arabia signed defense pacts with Russia, are buying Russian arms and are training with them, that is big and is extremely dangerous to the USD). The current regime is making the printer go Brrrr.\n\nMeanwhile, bitcoin has a set limit of bitcoin that will ever exist. It is literally the digital storage of energy. It's not fiat. There are FDIC insured exchanges (coinbase) there are ETF's based on bitcoin and its being used quite a bit, just look for the exchange. Its already replaced the dollar for El Salvador. Using BTC allows a country to get away from the IMF and inflationary insanity that is currently the US.\n\nDon't get me wrong if you want to be poor, invest in the USD. If you don't I highly suggest you get out of it, this is just year one of Biden, we have 3 more years of hyperinflation until he can be removed from office.", "Mmmmmm yes. Smells like bald eagles and freedom up in this bitch!", "You may get back what was seized and charges dropped but you're still out attorney's fees and your time and sanity.", "Man... We could barely pass any legislation at all these past few years. Even basic bills.\n\nSomehow I feel like the time for amendments has sailed.", "And the fourth.", "Ahh there go the totally not bad cops acting like thugs again, gee golly", "Sorry America...but your police/justice system is horrifyingly broken..", "Ask the officer why you are being pulled over. Tell them you don’t want to discuss your day. Ask if your free to go or are you being detained if you are being detained then plea the 5th and shut the fuck up.", "That's not horrifying.", "\"Some\" is doing a lot of heavy lifting in that sentence. Some cops are decent people.", "I didn't cite it but I appreciate the information and context you provided.", "He's following that truck to close, and he's going to slow. What did the cop want, for him to ram the truck, or cut him off?", "Can he get the money back or no", "Fourth amendment is what this video is about, and it's also completely dead.", "It might not hold up in court but they can most certainly do it", "The state cops gave you a fine because you were violating a federal law? What the fuck", "Cop: \"I pulled you over for a moving violation, but what I really want is for you to confess that you have drugs, weapons, or money. Have any drugs, weapons, or money?\"\n\nGuy: \"IN MY CAR, AS A MATTER OF FACT!!!\"\n\nCop: \"Damn, well I need your consent to go get it so do you mind?\"\n\nGuy: \"PLEASE DO!!!\"\n\nDumbass of the fucking year award.", "Please support the vital work of Institute for Justice to overturn these gross civil forfeiture thefts: https://ij.org/case/nevada-civil-forfeiture/", "She stripped in Iowa sir. Shes beautiful and sweet. There just isn't a lotta money floating around here.", "And they'll try to argue that you don't have standing to testify in \"your\" money's defense.", "Drug dogs are less accurate than flipping a coin.", "All of the most important protests aren’t lawful lmao. You think civil rights protests were lawful? Being able to decide what protests are allowed and acceptable is the death of the first amendment even if the Supreme Court disagrees.", "Its both\n\nA moral and ethical person would simply not move forward with the \"legal\" process of taking the money.", "Please support the vital work of Institute for Justice to overturn these gross civil forfeiture thefts: https://ij.org/case/nevada-civil-forfeiture/", "Doesn't seem to be a lot of conscientious objectors in the police force.", "I'm not as confident as you are. The view from outside the US is hyper-partisan dysfunction where many US politicians put party over country and would happily drive the US into default just to score political points against \"the other guys\".", "And survey say's wrong.\n\nhttps://www.newsbtc.com/news/now-can-pay-credit-card-bitcoin/\n\n[https://www.cnbc.com/select/visa-backs-first-credit-card-to-offer-bitcoin-rewards/](https://www.cnbc.com/select/visa-backs-first-credit-card-to-offer-bitcoin-rewards/)", "The cops wanted to steal his cash, it’s that simple. That’s why they put the dog on it. Everyone knows, the the video cites it too, that a large percentage of currency has traces of drugs on it. They knew the dog would signal and they knew that’s all they needed to seize the money. Absolutely disgusting. Poor guy doesn’t trust banks, but it turns out it’s the State that will rob you.", "Comply or die, peasants.", "And you wonder why no one likes cops. How can you trust a cop if all they are going to do is steal your shit on a baseless accusation? The worst is when you have the defenders who think cops shouldn't be accountable for their actions. Ridiculous", "Fuck those dumbass cops. I'm glad the money was returned. Sucks that so many of these idiots cops are cops.", "OR! Just go out of business. Ever hear of the savings and loan crisis? Banks routinely loan out way more than they have in cash deposits. Even though they are required to protect certain accounts with insurance (FDIC), but that doesn't cover all ownership categories and only covers up-to $250K, and the system was designed to handle the loss of one to a few smaller banks, it was never designed to handle the loss of a huge national bank like Bank of America, or handle the loss of multiple huge banks at once. So, there are certainly scenarios where multiple banks tank and the FDIC can't pay out all of the claims. My grandmother grew up in the depression and promised herself she'd never keep more than 10% of her savings in a bank. She'd buy federal and even local bonds sometimes, but she kept most of her meager savings in cash stashed away in multiple places around her house, even though she knew that she was losing a ton of money just from inflation alone, she was so convinced that the banks would screw the people again that she just couldn't trust her money to them.", "The only good cop.....", "You're not slick.", "You watch your ass!", "Of course it was an excuse. He says 1 or the reasons he's going to pull him over is because he's driving under the limit. But then he compliments him on driving slow because it safer. And says he appreciates that. What he really appreciated was the slow safe speed gave him an excuse to stop him.", "Sure they do, buddy, there's a big ~~farm~~ courthouse upstate where they reprimand all the dirty cops", "Money belongs to the ruling class and only they get to use money as free speech. Your posession of money is a theft from the ruling class and they are allowed to use any underhanded technique to remove it from you.", "Oh my sweet summer child.\n\nUnless you're that cop's mother, they'll do whatever the hell they want to get the end result they want based on what they think you should deserve.", "PG as in Prince George's, Maryland? Because yeah, I believe it. That whole state is about as corrupt as it gets.", "I disputed a traffic ticket last year and went to the court house iirc 5 times and each time they told me the court date was changed, without giving me any prior written notice lol \n\nFinally after I had wasted probably 24 hours driving to and from the court house they offered me a plea in which I paid the ticket I didn't deserve and wouldn't receive license points. That legal shit was real speedy /s", "Using a drug dog without PC is also illegal iirc? Similar decision, but basically they were trolling HS parking lots with the dogs and finding kids with weed in the car. Ruled illegal as it was a “search” without PC.", "This was rolled into the Comprehensive Crime Control Act of 1984.\n\nIn addition to a slew of new powers for prosecutors, the burden of proof for asset seizure was lowered. Agents had only to believe that what they were seizing was equal in value to money believed to have been purchased from drug sales. More significantly, the bill started the “equitable sharing” program that allowed local and state law enforcement to retain up to 80 percent of the spoils. \n\n\nGreat reforms, eh?", "> I thought the US had a similar rule.\n\nWe do, but there's no hard limit on what's \"speedy\" and what's not.\n\nApparently, four years is plenty speedy, in some people's opinion.", "No, but I def knew some people in gangs growing up and it's fucking hilarious seeing people talk about gangs like they're some kinda valiant emblems of virtue.\n\nIf someone honestly thinks the only difference between cops and gangs is that courts back up cops, they have no idea what they're talking about.", "Life lesson, cops are not your friends. Don't talk to cops minus the bare minimum information exchange required.", "I seem to remember a movie about this: Service guarantees citizenship....", "Not to mention all the garbage procedural shows that shape your view of the criminal justice system from the cops POV as the “good guy”", "Can’t travel with cash without certain forfeiture from the filthy, immoral & crooked - with a badge or not. Here’s your ‘thank you’ for your service.", "Canadian banks are criminal with charges. Never paid a penny for a bank account or a credit card before I moved here!", "They can. 15 minutes is all though, it's been decided via the reasonable man clause. I'll look more into it but I'm pretty sure that's the jist. Buttttttttt hopping in your car after 15 minutes might get you shot 8 times in the back and once in the head.\n\ne/ I see below someone has said that the SC just ruled that I'm wrong. Good to know!", "And that's why all drug dogs are slowly retrained to hit on everything the police officer wants them to look at.", "So no I cannot leave, because I would require my car to leave. So I am being detained because of something I didn’t consent to, after being stopped without probable cause, for an issue that could or could not exist and doesn’t directly threaten or harm anyone, something that very easily could be done in another and less intrusive way. \n\nNo. That’s ridiculous and is approaching stop and frisk levels of brain dead authoritarianism.\n\nIf you want to stop smog-spewing cars from operating get a warrant for the vehicles you want to test or increase public transportation, you don’t detain people for it.", "If I remember correctly he got all his money back. Took awhile", "Rittenhouse cough cough", "A gang which is paid by the taxpayers", "Great analogy.", "Cops can't hold you for a drug dog sniff unless that have reasonably suspicion which could be practically anything. In this case, I'm pretty sure the money they're already suspecting to be drug related would count as reasonable suspicion. They can't make you wait an unreasonable amount of time but that's about it.", "Also in South Carolina. I was in the far left lane on 85N with a cop camping one lane over on my rear passenger wheel well with my right turn signal on trying to get over. Guy wouldn't let me over. Tried slowing down, he matched. Accelerated and got ahead. Lights go on and he pulls me over. Is that entrapment? It felt like entrapment. \n\nAnother time, again in South Carolina. I saw a guy who was veering all over the place, couldn't maintain speed, couldn't maintain his lane, just very erratic. Pulled up level with him two lanes over and saw the driver leaned all the way back, head tilted up. Might've been fucked up, might've been having a medical emergency. So I call the cops, tell them exactly where we are, the make, model, and color of the car, everything but the license plate, because I wasn't comfortable driving close enough to him to read it. They said they were sending a couple of cars. Followed him for awhile and then saw a gamut of cop cars under an overpass up ahead. Start flashing my brights like crazy. THEY PULLED ME OVER. I fucking lost it. Between the chimps they have in uniform and the 15yr neverending roadwork project on 85 with swapped right and left lanes that completely fucks the flow of traffic, South Carolina is firmly the worst period state period ever period, it's like starting the Civil War wasn't fucking enough", "Thank you for your service but we think you are lying.\n\nThank you for your service but we believe this is drug money.\n\nThank you for your service we are going to sieze this money and give it to the DEA.\n\nThank you for your service but you have to deal with the DEA on this matter.\n\nThank you for your service.", "\"It was only after Lara sued the DEA for blowing its deadline to either give him his cash back or file a forfeiture case against it in federal court, and only after The Washington Post post reported on his case, that the government agreed to return his money.\"\n\n\\-That's some shit too they didn't even give the money back until they got sued and got national spot light", "I call BS. Please give me some examples.", "Well, it's not as though it was better before. There's only been a guarantee to a public defender since 1963. Our government has always been problematic and fragile. The only thing that's new is a political openly willing to dismantle democratic processes for their own gain.", "Bitcoin fixes this", "And with what money are people that can't afford a dash cam or a day in court going to challenge a wrongful arrest or citation? They aren't - that's kind of the point. You could point towards public defenders, but they are only available for criminal cases and are so overburdened with cases that they're little more than a formality. We shouldn't be relying on the courts to right the wrongs later, we need to address the systemic issues that leads to somehow having the highest incarceration rate in the entire world by an incredible margin.", "https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/64/Uc_Davis_Pepper_Spray_Incident.jpg\n\nThis is the first to come to mind \n\nCop was fired. Sued for emotional damages, won, and retained pension.", "I would have immediately told that cop to cut the shit when he started w that nonsense.", "Hi", "Exactly my thoughts.\n\nAnd then the cop pulls him over and is like \"Great job driving under the speed limit!\" (Wtf, isn't that one of the reasons you pulled him over? As if he should just crash into the truck, lmao.)\n\nThese types of cops can make any excuse to justify pulling anyone over as they please.", "Thank you for your intelligent response with examples to back up your argument.", "> and almost nobody cares\n\nLots of people care. Just no one who matters.", "In my State the money goes to fund the Academy. The depts get zero.\n\nIf the point has nothing to do with AI somehow preventing traffic stops that you can't then why did you even make the post?\n\nTraffic stops are easy to avoid. Stop driving like a horses ass and smoking pot in your car.", "It's ran by people, and people suck", "The cop could just say he smells weed. No cam is gonna prove that wrong.", "Downvoting you for bringing it up", "Ok....he was driving too close to truck but he found it odd that he was going under the speed limit? Doesn't it stand to reason that he was too close and under speed limit because the truck was going too slow? Don't seem too odd to me.", "Yeah, they rob you in other ways.", "You could make a case for him being responsible for the deputy who falls from the helicopter, since he hit him with a rock and that contributed to his fall. But I would also argue it's self-defense.\n\nAnd I agree. First Blood is a great movie. The sequels are cool action flicks, but they completely detract from what the original movie was all about.", "LOL. I included that because there have been a huggeee amount of cases where someone's rights were trampled on because they didn't clearly invoke their rights.\n\nPSA for anyone who might deal with a cop:\n\nNEVER:\n\n\"I don't think I'm ok with you searching my vehicle.\"\n\nInstead:\n\n\"I do not consent to searches, and I do not consent to you searching my vehicle.\"\n\nNEVER:\n\n\"I'm not sure I should say anymore.\"\n\nInstead:\n\n\"I am invoking my right to remain silent.\"\n\nNEVER:\n\n\"I think I should talk to my attorney.\"\n\nInstead:\n\n\"I want to talk to my attorney, and I don't want to be questioned further until I have.\"\n\nIf you hedge AT ALL they will ignore you and later say \"well it wasn't clear to me that he/she/they wanted to invoke X right, they sounded like they were just thinking about it.\" And the judge will agree with them. Don't hedge or they will fuck you. \n\nIf you're doing something illegal and get caught, SHUT THE FUCK UP. It doesn't matter if the cop is nice, they will try to politely get you to spill the beans on yourself because they know most people in that situation think \"well if I'm just polite/honest maybe they'll let it slide.\" They won't. It's called \"stop and talk\" and cops are trained to be good at it because self-incrimination is the easiest way to land a conviction. Give your name, say you want to speak to your lawyer and say that you refuse to answer any questions, then just shut the fuck up. Your odds of getting off free go up exponentially if you do this.\n\nEdit: fixed punctuation.", "Most recent protests,the rubber bullets were loaded and the riot gear was on before any rioting and looting. It's using a fire hose to put out a birthday candle and wondering why people are pissed that you got their kitchen soaked. There's a lot more going on than just analyzing the results of a situation.", "It actually started with those limey fucks across the ponds, but sure. It wasn't a major issue in the US until then Senator Biden championed it to combat trafficking.", "India also needs a court order and/or a conviction (unless the crime is counterfeitting in which case the money is legitimatly evidence).\n\nThe only countries that I can find where police have the authority to confiscate assets without a court order are USA and Russia\n\nI can now confidently stand by my original statement.\n\nThere's actually a really interesting paper out of EU talking about it. Google \"Impact Study on Civil Forfeiture\" if you want to learn more (spoiler alert, they call out the US's civil forfeiture rules as unique \"it has to be said that for about twenty years from the early 1980s onwards, the US has led the way and pressed ahead expanding asset forfeiture as a programme or policy at both state and federal level\")", "Due process? They don't even have to charge or even ticket you. \n\nThey get to steal all your cash and then threaten and blackmail you into signing it over to them down the road.", "Oh, America. Where you need to prove your innocence and not the other way around. Rat fucking pig following stupid draconian laws. I hate this place so much.", "Not anymore in the USA. They don't want cases in court, so they make the accused guy plead guilty through pressure and threats (if you accept this, 2 years, if not, Ill ask for death sentence).", "Highway robbery. Those in the past would be hung for this.", "Edit: Looks like I missed the point", "> Most people don't have the resources to fight civil asset forfeiture cases\n\n(Especially considering they just confiscated a lot of your resources.)", "If I'm going to be robbed for thousands of dollars, and have little to no chance of getting it back..I would 100% choose a gang rather than cops.. at least the gang is honest about what they are doing.", "Progressives absolutely adore big G and our point of contact with big G is: Overwhelmingly the police!", "Cops were clearly in the wrong, but why the hell is that guy driving around with that amount of cash? That's a very dumb thing to do for a variety of reasons.", "I trust banks more than I trust cops", "Cops are disgusting", "Why does he have his life savings in his car though? If his car was broken into or crashed, the whole lot could be gone in seconds that way.", "This is the correct answer.", "Nobody cares if he is a veteran", "I'm betting there are some \"hot zones\" for those figures, too, regardless of political affiliation . Based on that atrocious table, I want to see a map.\n\nSome states are just listed as states, but some are broken down into cardinal direction within a state...\n\n>It's everywhere.\n\nIt takes a truly moronic cop to try a civil forfeiture in a small logging town in backwoods Montana. What are you going to get? $30, a dead doe, and buckshot to the chest. \n\nIt's not happening in places where people are too poor to own anything or in places where people are so rich their dead grandma can have you ruined.\n\nIt's not \"everywhere\". It's where they can get away with it, and where there are enough people to poach. And somewhere in the mix is enough \"criminals\" to try it with.\n\n>That confidence comes from the knowledge that he's not the only one doing this, that his buddies back him up 1000%.\n\nIt takes a community of asshole cops (and corrupt courts) to cover multiple injustices, and I would bet my life that those injustices are coming from the same shitheads promoting the \"thin blue line\" bullshit like a fraternity that needs disbanding due to poor behavior. \n\nDisclaimer: I know that not all cops who support the TBL and college kids in frats are assholes (not all are). I also know that the most outspoken for any cause are *extremists* and more loyal to their group than \"outsiders\".", "Its going to be funny when millenials are giving their wallet address to scammers when they are Biden's age.", "Not for you, stupid poors", "I appreciate the links. But in that same link is an article that sums up my feelings a lot more eloquently than I could. \n\nhttps://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/28/us/false-police-statements.html\n\nI made the mistake of scrolling up so now I cant copy and paste the part that best summarized my feelings, but it was saying that finding and providing footage to exonerate you is incredibly difficult. And there are examples of the cops body/dash cam footage not being enough evidence. Some guy had to go knocking on neighbors doors to get security footage of another angle of the incident. Unless the cops are being extremely egregious in the footage and in their lies, they can hide in the gray areas and most of the time get the benefit of the doubt.", "Like if you're an off-duty drunk cop who T-bones someone, your cop buddies will race to the hospital to try to get a blood draw from the person you hit, without a warrant, to try to help reduce the liability, blame them, etc.\n\nAnd if the medical staff at that hospital refuse to do so without a valid warrant? Well, your cop buddies will just arrest them.", "If you want to put all of your cash under your mattress go right ahead, I'll keep mine in a bank where it is insured", "Never speak to police. NEVER CONSENT to a search especially in a rental car. Ask am I free to go? Am I being charged. Police are trained to deceive and assume everyone is guilty.", "We should set up a gofundme for this guy. Cops at their absolute worst.", ">That requires you to know that\n\nCheck\n\n>the cop to know that\n\nCheck\n\n>you to stand up to the cop\n\nCheck\n\n>and the cop to respect your rights.\n\n# Fuck", "Pure democracy", ">With no probable cause to seize the cash, a Nevada Highway Patrol sergeant who arrived on the scene ordered a drug-sniffing dog to be brought in. The dog alerted on the cash\n\nYeah no shit Sherlock.\n\nIf he's carrying $100,000, most of it is gonna be in $100s.\n\nHow many Benjamins do you think HAVEN'T been used at some point to snort cocaine?", "It's already long gone. Curfews are a direct violation of the first amendment. Your freedom to assemble doesn't have a bed time, well I guess now it does.\n\nDue process is long gone too. Lots of laws are on the books to directly violate due process. Drugs are illegal because supposedly they make people commit other crimes... that's a due process skip. Instead of honoring our rights and waiting to see if someone actually commits a crime, they just started outlawing supposed reasons people commit crimes, even if no victim is involved.\n\nBasically no one cares to actually think about whether something should be a crime anymore. Everyone's busy caught in the latest moment. \"Oh there's riots? yeah curfews are a great idea to stop those!\" Except next time it might just be them setting a curfew at 6 pm, with dining, shopping, and entertainment exclusions. \"Yeah that curfew should be permanent!\" No one cares.", "Bullish on bitcoin", "Yes, it is a foolish thing to do. Cash is nearly impossible to track. There’s no point in trying to do so, especially if the person with the cash is crossing states. Do you have any idea how hard it would be for anyone to track any amount of cash, especially if it crosses state lines? It’s why bank have dye packs stored with their cash. It’s easier to destroy than it is to try and find it.\n\nYou all seem to be misunderstanding my point. I’m not saying the current law is right or justified. In fact I was pretty damn clear on where I stood. What I’m trying to get across is pretending like you don’t understand the why is fucking idiotic. I’m with you which is why it’s important to me that we argue against these things with an actual argument instead of pretending to be morons. False stupidity or willful ignorance is never a legit argument or excuse. There are soooo many way to argue against this other than “the current law is stupid and only exist so the state and steal stuff.”\n\nFor example: The law is being defended by lawmakers saying that inanimate objects do not have human rights. Repeating “innocent until proven guilty” is not a relevant rebuttal as that’s not what is being argued by lawmakers. This is like people going after Trump because his spray tan is an indication he’s not fit to lead. His fake ass tan isn’t relevant and of all the things to use why on Earth would you pick that one? There are so many ways to argue against forfeiture laws that pretending to not understand the purpose and intent is disingenuous and will just get you laughed at. Hit the problem head on and stop dancing around it.", "They are saying nothing like that.\n\nBoth are violent, tribalistic groupings of people used to enforce dominion.\n\nThe difference is, one comes from, and is tied to, the community they rule; the other is not, and is encouraged to suppress and violate the communities beneath them.\n\nGangs exist because certain communities are abandoned by those in power, and abused instead of protected by those who hold authority. Theres a reason you dont see many gangs in big rich neighborhoods, because those neighborhoods have the police as \"their gang\"", "Don’t. Talk. To. Cops. Don’t. Answer. Questions.", "There has been a ton of history with denying loans to people of color, or only financing houses for white people, etc. Most of the banks have done this.", "go fund what? he got his money back", "And after that, here we see an example of legalized theft of personal property.", "Hell, in at least one town the Sheriff used the money to redecorate his home, buy a new truck and toys...\n\n... and it was determined he was within his rights to do so.", "Or, roll their drug sniffing dogs up on our Congress people and just seize their cash and arrest them for trace amounts of drugs.", "To my fellow Conservatives: \"I know you're just doing your job...\" Exactly! They're doing their fucking job by violating your rights. They violate them everyday! Back the Blue my ass. Blue Lives Matter? Fuck them. I'm pretty sure that not all but just about every cop out there has violated someone's rights in some way or another at some point in their career. Fuck them all.", "https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2021/03/20/us/protests-policing-george-floyd.amp.html\n\n> In Philadelphia, police sprayed tear gas on a crowd of mainly peaceful protesters trapped on an interstate who had nowhere to go and no way to breathe. In Chicago, officers were given arrest kits so old that the plastic handcuffs were decayed or broken. Los Angeles officers were issued highly technical foam-projectile launchers for crowd control, but many of them had only two hours of training; one of the projectiles bloodied the eye of a homeless man in a wheelchair. Nationally, at least eight people were blinded after being hit with police projectiles.\n\n \n\n> Reviewers more often found that officers behaved aggressively, wearing riot gear and spraying tear gas or “less-lethal” projectiles in indiscriminate ways, appearing to target peaceful demonstrators and displaying little effort to de-escalate tensions. In places like Indianapolis and Philadelphia, reviewers found, the actions of the officers seemed to make things worse.\n \n \n\n> The reports repeatedly blamed police departments for escalating violence instead of taming it. At times, police looked as if they were on the front lines of a war. They often treated all protesters the same, instead of differentiating between peaceful protesters and violent troublemakers.\n\n \n\n> The review found that the force sometimes deviated from policy; one officer justified firing a “less-lethal impact munition” at someone who had engaged in “furtive conversation” and then ran away.\n> In Denver, officers used similar “less lethal” weapons against people who yelled about officers’ behavior. Officers also improperly fired projectiles that hit or nearly hit heads and faces, according to the report by the city’s independent police monitor. In Raleigh, N.C., a consulting firm that reviewed body cameras and other footage said videos appeared to show officers using pepper spray indiscriminately.\n\n> None of these findings were new.\n\n\n[Further reading material here. ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_police_violence_incidents_during_George_Floyd_protests)", "That's literally the entire reason for the US involvement in Latin America, they fund the drug trade to traffic drugs into the US, set up right wing paramilitary groups to destabilize the area and arrest farmers for selling now illegal plants, and of course those drugs then are distributed into poverty stricken (usually black) neighbourhoods in the US to keep a lower class from gaining any social mobility.", "Just ask Alec Baldwin!\n\nToo soon?", "Oh trust me, progressives and leftists are not the ones it was sold to lol. We delivered the election to Biden knowing full well that Biden is a candidate of the oligarchy because of extraordinary circumstances. And it's very unlikely to happen again after Biden has managed to out Neo-liberal Clinton and Out sundown Reagan.\n\nBut the \"Biden is the most progressive president\" line always comes out from libs any time someone dares to criticize Biden from the left.", "> Even if he hadn't given permission, the dog would have alerted anyway.\n\nThe dog would make some random, very ordinary dog-like movement, and the dog's handler would say 'that means he alerted, he's specially trained to lick his own balls when he smells drugs'.\n\nAnd no court would fight that, because the dog's handler is the foremost expert on that dog's particular training.\n\nDrug sniffing dogs need to be abolished entirely. 100% of them. They're just 4th amendment violations on four legs.", "I'm doing my part!", "In theory, yes. But it's not all that much money when compared to the budgets of these departments, which are funded by state and federal government to the tune of millions. Individual officers don't profit.", "America doesn't care about us.", "Sailed over your head again. I haven’t had a ticket in 20 years but millions of people country wide have. Regardless of whether you or I individually get one, automated driving will cause that number to fall at which point the police units that made money from giving out traffic tickets will need to supplement that from somewhere and assert forfeiture is at the top of the list of ways to do it. If you can’t see that, then you’re too blind to be driving at all.", "Exactly", "How long do you actually have to wait", "I just want to know what the incentive for taking the dude's money is. Is it a power trip, or do these guys get a cut in some way for seizing his money?", "> This isn't rhetorical, how is asset forfeiture constitutional\n\nITs not, and as you might have guessed, the constitution isn't a super hero who attacks people who break it.", "Even if they don't expressly tell the dog to signal, there's no way the dog isn't incentivized on some level to do that. Dogs are smart, and they want to please people.", "That’s his choice. Certainly no business of the cops", ">Thankfully it was returned.\n\n...without any consequences for the people/agency who made the wrongful seizure, *meaning there is no incentive to avoid wrongful seizures.\n\nWho cares about being right if you don't lose anything for being wrong???", "Didn't someone just post bail in Wisconsin, run from the cops after a domestic dispute and killed a bunch of people by driving over them? I dont believe that guy guy was rich. \n\nI guess bail is a problem. just not a money problem", "Lol nice try troll", "Last year, they were gassing, beating, pepper balling and rubber bulleting people in cities across the nation. There are numerous videos of reporters being attacked, and the notorious violent clearing of the square in DC for Trump's bible photo op. Hell there's video of people being shot on their own porches for watching the cops pass their house. I had friends beaten and gassed and shot for trying to leave demonstrations in Portland. There were also multiple incidents of outside actors inciting riots or starting fires to stir up a crackdown.\n\nYou also don't need to excuse the actions of any rioters to see the overwhelming response from police. Hell my tiny burg was under city-wide curfew for a few nights because of one block of riots and vandalism, and multiple uninvolved people were gassed and shot a mile away outside my GF's apartment.", "Not exactly. In our court system a \"speedy trial\" is a specific request due to courts being backlogged. Lawyers will generally suggest that their clients not ask for a speedy trial because while their request might be granted the court generally looks at the request as a slight and doles out harsher punishments.\n\nGood times", "Before even watching more than a minute I want to point out that he's in Nevada, where gambling is legal and cash is often had. I'd also like to point out he was pulled over for \"following too close, going under the speed limit\" right after changing lanes. You know, how every driver does things when following a large, slow vehicle with someone (like the cop car in this case) in the left lane.\n\n\nSo this is a textbook example of civil forfeiture's complete bullshittery. Just in absolutely no way remotely justifiable in even the dumbest of minds and yet, it still happened.", "It literally does not matter at all. There is nothing illegal about keeping your money outside of a bank, and the cop had no legal right to take the money. End of story", "Everyone who \"doesn't trust banks\" needs to know that civil forfeiture means that they are implicitly trusting every single cop between their origin and their destination any time they transport their money. Personally, I'll take the banks - shit though they are, not losing your money is their job and they rarely fuck it up.", "Just imagine it’s 1836 and the sheriff stops your wagon and just rummages through your shit and steals YOUR stuff. Yeah, robbery….\n\nNow imagine that’s just now. Yeah, robbery.", "Ah yes America\n\nThe land of the free lmao", "Absolutely disgusting", "His crime: traveling under the speed limit* yes, ladies and gentlemen, going too fast, or not fast enough, is the same crime.", "The local municipalities get 80%.", "It is. And even if they're not, or not deliberately doing so, the dog is rewarded when it signals.\n\nMost dogs innate sense of 'loyalty', or pack mentality, what-have-you, will lead it naturally to wanting to be rewarded by its owner, regardless of cues.\n\n(And then there are, of course, the cops who actively do exactly as you say).", "Yeah, if you are transporting lots of money for a drug trafficker, get pulled over and looted by the cops for that cash, and then get let go with no charges, the drug trafficker is probably going to kill you. There should have to be charges to enact a civil forfeiture.", "I mean in my state we have tried but it never makes it through subcommittee. Which sucks because we are a huge agricultural state we would have an amazing summer grow season (NC)", "At that point they already had probable cause. What the Supreme Court is referring to is when there is a regular traffic stop where they don’t have anything at all and they want a dog to basically find the PC.\n\nIn this scenario they had the cash, and the individual driving a rental car across state lines.\n\nObviously looking back now you can see he wasn’t a drug mule, but they did have enough to hold him and verify.\n\nSo they did have probable cause for the dog and he did have to wait.", "Good luck with finding a lawyer who will actually get you out of it though. Especially if you’ve just lost your job because the cop kept you too long and you were late to work, etc.", "Do y’all not remember what happened in 2008? Why WOULD you trust a bank? I’m not saying you should keep it in your truck like this guy But bro big banks are not your fucking friends", "This is banditry, nothing more. Cops are the largest and most violent criminal organization in this country by a mile.", ">BUT - who drives around with their entire life savings in cash in a rental car? What the fuck?\n\nTotally agree. If you don't want to put your money in a bank, then buy a fireproof safe and keep it at home. Why would you drive around with $100k - your life savings? You're putting a stupid amount of trust into nothing going wrong and absolutely ruining your life.", "I don't answer questions.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/FjvdHE1E5eI", "Wouldn’t they just not tell you that they are calling canine? Kill time some other way.", "There was a case where the cop testified he smelled pot from the suspect's car as it drove by, while he was in the patrol car, both cars having the windshields up.", "It was definitely entrapment, he slowed down the slower I went, and the trucker in front of me kept slowing down too, since he also saw the cop coming up. Cop didnt leave enough space for me to get over either, so I was basically boxed in. By the time he pulled me over were going around 55 iirc. However, arguing with him on the side of the road, out of state and being black, definitely would have made him search my car, and I still had a long drive. Thats what they count on. If I was home, I would have argued with him all day.", "You might beat the charges, but you won’t beat the ride", "[Wouldn't trust them with my house, though.](https://abcnews.go.com/Business/bank-america-sued-foreclosing-wrong-homes/story?id=9637897)", "https://www.congress.gov/bill/98th-congress/senate-bill/948\n\nWhose name do you see?", "Idk what’s been going on with my Reddit to keep seeing videos of police officers screwing the pooch in the worst ways imaginable but either way all those videos are perfect examples. To name a few, the girl that got pepper sprayed, the 11 year old that was forcefully arrested, the firefighter that was arrested (this wasn’t was as harsh as the others but it’s still worse than lizard brain...hell even worse than amoeba nucleus like come on), and this very thread. Plus, all the wrongful convictions of people and innocents that are incarcerated, in this time of cameras, phones, the internet, and infinite news articles, you think people would be a lot more empathetic to the down trotted of society but nope. Shit’s whack.", "I really enjoyed how the Orville had an episode where society just votes people criminal sentences like a popularity contest. Yet, something petty like giving up a seat for an old lady leads to getting your mind lobotomized. \n\nI’m not giving the description justice of the episode, but that’s what your comment reminded of.", "He should have gone to their house when they weren't home and seized it changing the locks.", "Fortunately i can not look inside his mind to know what he thinks ;)", "When I moved across the country and was going to find a new, I was advised to take all my cash out and put it into a cashiers check or money order in my name to protect myself from this or any other thieves. I ended up losing the check and made it to CA broke like so many before me.", "“Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary”", "Almost every asset seized by law enforcement stays with law enforcement. It does not go towards the city/state/country. Same goes with police auctions from seized property. That money goes to law enforcement, not the city/state/country. That money gets added on to their already bloated budgets.", "I'm not wasting my time on some piece of shit right winger.", "If you're not going to stick your excess money in a bank, and assuming you probably don't trust them to hold your stock investments either, might I recommend a very heavy safe and convert your cash to gold and silver while also investing in some firearms and a dog? My friends lost so much of their investment accounts in the 2008 crisis that they took what was left and bought gold and silver, and have added to it since then every couple of months. They bought most of their gold in 2009 at about $750/oz and most of their silver around $10/oz. The silver is currently worth about $24/oz and the gold about $1800, but has been as high as $2000/oz and he silver has hit over $45/oz at least once. I've heard people who claim to have bought silver at under $9/oz back in 2008 and sold at nearly $50/oz 3 years later in 2011, which is insane. \n\nMe personally, if gold or silver can net me an average of 10% per year over a 10-15 year period, it's already beating the indexes of the stock market. I'm not sure how capital gains works on precious metals, AFAIK, the gains are supposed to be taxed at 28 percent, but I don't know if people actually report their gains, or if they're supposed to unless they sell the metals.", "America: we love parades for veterans but we actually hate veterans in general.", "good luck telling a cop to fuck off and not having them write you a ticket for some nonsense that can't be proved, or just arresting you without cause and releasing you with no charges later", "The people they \"stole\" houses from should never have been given them in the first place. Banks offered them loans they weren't qualified for and inevitably couldn't pay back, so the homes were repossessed. \n\nHorrendous, greed driven practice. But they didn't steal anything", "I'm asking about recent protests. I agree that peaceful civil rights protests were claimed to be unlawful even though the law of the land said something very different. Thankfully that injustice was righted. I'm looking for recent examples. Recent protests I'm aware of were all deemed to be unlawful because they weren't proper exercises of the 1st Amendment. Do you have anything recent?", "You might be able to do that, but as a brown person, I absolutely wouldn’t be willing to risk my life like that", "Damn DA not letting the good cops torture suspects to get information out of them\n\n\n/s", "Easy fix for that; everything is probable cause.\n\nProbable cause? \"Well he looked shifty.\"\n\nJust make something up, slap it on a police report, and statistically most of the time you'll come out ahead as the cop.", "Good points", "[here is a GREAT Ted talk on it](https://www.ted.com/talks/dick_m_carpenter_ii_the_injustice_of_policing_for_profit_and_how_to_end_it?utm_campaign=tedspread&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=tedcomshare)", ">Traffic stops are easy to avoid.\n\nTraffic stops are literally just fucking random and if you think otherwise your head is so far up your ass your parents should be ashamed for never helping you remove it.", "That’s funny exact same thing happened to me without the lock picks. Told him exactly where it was, he searched my car arrested me and charged me. Same cop pulled me over again a couple weeks later because some girl got abducted and he heard my buddy yelling something in my car. Couple weeks after that he was tailing me through my buddy’s neighborhood, I took some weird turns just to see if he was following me, he was. This went on for a month literally every time I saw that cop until I filed a complaint. \n\nI was pulled over 3 more times by different cops in the same city and my car searched every time because I was being compliant and told them it was fine. Pulled over for shit like going 34 in a 30, a license plate light burnt out that magically fixed itself, and I shit you not ‘someone’s blowing up mailboxes and I’ve seen you twice’… while on my own street 3 houses from my own. One of those was after my initial arrest and the cop came back to me with the tiniest piece of weed he picked out of the carpet (from the initial arrest) and told me he could charge me for it, but let me go out of the graciousness of his heart. Last one they sent out a sergeant who acted like I was guilty as fuck until the other cop said my vehicle was clean. Then I got a brand new vehicle and was never pulled over again (my old truck was the definition of a beater). \n\nSo fuck your anecdote, you don’t have to argue to say no and you should say no. Sure if it’s blatantly obvious they already have probable cause then there’s no point to saying no. But if you have done nothing wrong and they don’t have probable cause your not being a dick by saying no, your being smart. \n\nMoral of the story: cops can always be dicks, saying no to a search doesn’t make you a dick. Those asshats burned every ounce of goodwill I will ever give a cop.", "And think. The whole thing could have been avoided if he just said no to the search and didn't answer any questions. Never talk to police. They're not your friends, guardians, or even dependable 90% of the time. Just like everything else in America they are a business, and your protection is second to their bottom line and bloodthirst.", "Every dog encounter should be audited.\n\nYou should be able to use this in your defense. \"How many searches has this dog performed? And in how many of those did it signal? And in how many of those cases was the signal valid?\"\n\nYou never will, though.", "Seriously, who wants to sit there and re-link chain-fed ammo...", ">plus he could have just left instead of waiting for the dog since the cops can't hold you without probably cause.\n\nGood luck with that.\n\nPro-tip: do not do this.", "Plus, civil forfeiture basically violates our 4th Amendment right against unreasonable search and seizure.", "Not sure there ever have been any for abuse of civil asset forfeiture. I know some of them got into hot water for buying a pinacolada machine after robbing a ton of people, but I think it was more \"bad press\" kinda trouble not legal trouble.", ">Traffic stops are easy to avoid.\n\nYou, 8 minutes ago.\n\nSeems relevant to me, idiot.", "Because if you say yes, then their PC can't be challenged in court later.\n\nAlways say no. Or say nothing at all.", "That's not a legitimate probable cause", "Yep. No fucking way do I try that. I’m only kinda brown and I still get the shifty looks. It’s not worth my life", "> If you say no they will ~~tell you~~ manufacture their PC and proceed anyways.\n\nI've been searched 3 times, in 2 different jurisdictions, because they \"smelled marijuana\". In spite of the fact that there has never been marijuana in any of my vehicles, and I hadn't even been around anyone smoking it. The last time, I was smoking my tobacco pipe with a strong Latakia blend in it. No one who has a working olfactory glad and has ever smelled marijuana could have possibly mistaken my tobacco for it. Also, I've never met anyone who has dark brown to black weed and keeps it in a tin with a Dunhill label on it, or smokes their weed in a decent quality churchwarden pipe.", "Also, cops are absolutely allowed to lie to you about anything and everything to get you talk. It is very important to remember that literally anything they tell you could be a lie. \n\nCops will also often tell you that they are just trying to gather information to exclude you from being a suspect. That is always a total lie. Nothing they get from you in questioning can be used to help you in court. It literally isn't allowed. They are always only trying to get things to use against you.\n\nThey will also ask questions that seem innocent enough. Just basic things like where were you at this time, did you touch this thing, did you talk to this person, etc. Never ever answer these. They are trying to catch any discrepancies to use against you in a court case if needed. Even if you are innocent, you could still accidentally say something that helps build their case.\n\nBeyond that, there are so many laws that nobody is actually sure exactly how many laws there are in total. You could absolutely be breaking a law that you didn't even know about.\n\nIn short, shut up and get a lawyer. Even if you are guilty, even if you are not guilty, especially if the police say you shouldn't.", ">Any regular civilians would be fucked.", "Because all US veterans are law-abiding citizens and American heroes.\n\nLike Lee Harvey Oswald and Timothy McVeigh.\n\n^^^^^Sadly,&nbsp;I&nbsp;probably&nbsp;need&nbsp;a&nbsp;/s.", "Going over the speed limit? Straight to jail. \n\n\nGoing under the speed limit? Believe it or not, straight to jail.", "come on now, the adults are speaking,", "It really sucks how cops have made me hate cops.", "They don't have to tell you why they are detaining you.\n\nBut you can win that court battle if they don't have a good reason", "Fuck, man. Just fuck...", "Lmao, of course, and the victim does not get the interest paid against it, the state does. Same thing with things like child support payments. It's one of the reasons the state has a vested interest in you paying through them rather than the non-custodial paying to the custodial parent. Once set up it is nigh impossible to get it revoked even if both parents would prefer it to be a person to person transfer.", "> reasonable articulable suspicion\n\nSo, all it takes is for one cop to say, \"I smell weed.\"\n\nGood luck proving in court later that your car didn't smell like weed on that particular day. Good luck proving that the cop didn't 'reasonably suspect' that he smelled weed.", "oops. wrong user. Sorry. \n\nI did some more searching. The earliest bill I found that became law with similar text was during the Reagan war on drugs in \n\n[H.R.4481 - Justice Assistance Act of 1982](https://www.congress.gov/bill/97th-congress/house-bill/4481/)\n\n> Title IX: Sentencing Reform - Sentencing Reform Act of 1982 - Sets forth a new sentencing structure applicable to a defendant who is found guilty of an offense under any Federal statute. ... including: (1) forfeiture for certain racketeering crimes and drug-related offenses;...\n> \n> Title X: Criminal Forfeiture - Comprehensive Criminal Forfeiture Act of 1982 - Amends the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO) to specify that property subject to forfeiture for racketeering activity includes: (1) all proceeds obtained directly or indirectly from racketeering activity; (2) real and tangible and intangible personal property; and (3) positions, offices, appointments, and benefits obtained through illegal activity.", "Highly specialized metal detectors can be tripped by the metal in the ink used for American currency, but they have no way to differentiate between a lofty Benjamin or a lowly Jackson. Plus, you know, all that metal in your car so it's a moot point for highway law enforcement. That \"certain community\" op belongs to is almost certainly a meth-addled trailer park", "\"No, your dumb.\"", "Pretty cool watching cops steal from citizens, hold the money he has receipts for months with no repercussions, and now that they are getting sued by him it's the tax payers who will have to cover these highway bandits. \n\n\nWhy do we give police incentives to steal from the citizens they should be protecting lol?", ">made it to CA\n\nThat was your mistake", "Massive abuse of power total bs", "Fuck civil forfeiture. \n\nThis is also a great reminder to NOT TALK TO COPS. This guy was well meaning and nice enough guy. And he was robbed for it. \n\nDon’t talk to cops.", "They can prevent you from speaking all they want, they just can't stop you from speaking.\n\nOtherwise we'd all have election day off work.", "Is this another ploy to discourage people from ever stepping foot in this country, even as a tourist?", "State sponsored highway robbery", "Don’t trust cops. They are not your friends.", "Figured I had nothing to lose so just ignored the ticket to call their bluff. Then received a federal arrest warrant in the mail about a month later. That did the trick. Hope Uncle Sam enjoyed that 500 bucks!", "Also RIP: Habeas Corpus. Thanks, Obama.", "ahaha bro hell yeah \\bro-fists you\\ \n\nI remember the other day I had to go to court so I was blazeing on my way there aha lmao and then when I took a hit before walking in and just blew out a huge hit of the endo as soon as I walked into the courtroom aha lmao then the judge was all like 'young man do you think its a good idea to wear a shirt with a marijuana leaf on it when u're faceing drug charges' an I was all like 'stfu lmao' and gave him the papers my dads lawyer got me and he looks at em and just rolls his eyes and says 'case dismissed, now get out of here, you stunk up this courtroom with your marijuana smoke' ahaha lamo I was like 'yeah bitch that's the [skunk one](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH-hCiRQmss) right there ahaha the pimp shit, the sick daddy nasty shit ahah lmao'", "Civil asset forfeiture laws hadn't been established at that point in time, probably.", "Ok you know what really fucking pisses me off? \n\nA vet with literal receipts will have his life savings stolen. A kid found with a a bit of weed can have his parents house stolen. \n\nThey will seize everything and anything from regular people not even accused of crimes with not a shred of evidence the assets were involved in any crime. \n\nYet Jeffry Fucking Epstein built a fortune running an international sex trafficking ring, using assets like jets and mansions that we know for a fact was used in his criminal enterprise, and the govt makes no attempt to seize it. WTF?\n\nThey do not even need to prove it was involved in a crime. Epstein's entire estate can be seized with no evidence or proof needed. Why hasn't this happened? \n\nThey let the real criminals profit from their crimes yet harass innocent citizens, it's beyond fucked.", "Love that one. I haven't watched it in a while but it's one I try to go back and watch every few month", "The 4th was murdered by the TSA and no one gives a shit either.", "> Curfews are a direct violation of the first amendment. Your freedom to assemble doesn't have a bed time, well I guess now it does.\n\nDon't worry, both sides support curfews. \n\nOne to keep blacks from looting, one to keep whites (well, and blacks considering their low vaccination rates) from coughing on everyone.", "Never travel with cash. Period. If cops find you with cash, they will take it because \"clearly\" you're a drug dealer as they're the only people with money.", "Yay…. government….", ">Then police will wonder why people don't want to cooperate with them...\n\nThey know. They just don't give a shit.\n\nUS police training teaches an \"us vs them\" mentality even more than our military does, which is mind-blowing.\n\nCops really have a nurtured belief that they are all that stands between us and chaos/anarchy/armageddon, and that we are all insufficiently grateful to them for their service/sacrifice.", "I would point to the 2008 financial crisis that was entirely manufactured by the banking industry with zero consequences. The aftermath where they illegally stole people's homes [Not at all, an encompassing article, but a convenient and easily accessible article ](https://www.salon.com/2013/05/02/the_foreclosure_fraud_settlement_was_a_big_dud/). I could also point you towards wells Fargo opening millions of unauthorized fake accounts for their customers to charge them fees.", "This same thing happened to me leaving Texas and entering New Mexico. Cop pulled me over for \"following to closely\" and proceeded to play 20 questions and made me leave my vehicle. He even tried to get me to sit in the back of his car, I refused and told him I don't get in strangers cars.", "Correct, that is their entire point.", "\"With all due respect, shut the fuck up, your honor.\"", "You could be in the most free place in the universe and people will still abuse their power, it's not unique to the US.", "You can disagree if you want, but nothing about not consenting to verbal/physical searches means you have to be a dick. You should at all times remain cool, calm, and respectful.", "Well yes, because all you guys get is the media information which is trying hard to push that viewpoint.\n\nThe reality is that the side pushing for default (the right wing) is the same side that constantly raises spending on their priorities when they're in office. They're not dumb enough to overlook the fact that forcing a default would screw them just as much as the other side.", "But freedom. Freest country in the world.", "What alternative do you suggest?", "Everyone makes mistakes. Sometimes when I’m driving on the highway long distances if I don’t remain vigilant or use my cruise control I find myself speeding.", "Fun fact J.P. Morgan(the person) was a conspirator in a plot to violently overthrow the U.S. Government because he hated F.D.R. for starting the process of getting rid of the gold standard. For people who might be interested in this go read up on the business plot and the whistle blower General Smedley Butler.", "God this shit grinds my gears.", "According to the powers that be, criminals would literally use cryptocurrency instead of cash so what the fuck", "I don't trust banks lol ok", "Aside from this being a specific use case, you have zero chance of getting your money back from the gang without relying on the cops and the justice system (unless you're the punisher or something lmao).\n\nThe main difference between gangs and cops is that cops actually answer to the law (most times). You might think cops aren't held accountable enough and that's a valid criticism, but gangs answer to literally nobody but their own internal hierarchy.", "\"Where are you going today?\"\n\n\"East.\"\n\n\"Where'd you come from?\"\n\n\"West.\"", "60 seconds long - The best advice on dealing with cops with BONUS Michael Rapaport:\n\n[Shut the fuck up.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkN4duV4ia0&ab_channel=PotBrothersatLaw)", "Police kill more whites than blacks but whatever man", "Cops make vets look like action heroes with hearts of gold\n\nIf a dude goes from the army to the police force, he doesn't want to save people lmao they want to kill", "Lmao\n\nSome people have no sense.", "If he just told the officer no to the search and refused to answer questions there's absolutely no way this situation happens unless he signals his dog to fake a hit. A dog isn't going to pick up trace amounts of drugs that's packed in a plastic bag, and then sealed in a backpack with clothes, snacks, and who knows what else.", "Those cops should be fired immediately. That being said, carrying $90,000 in cash is one of the absolute stupidest things you can do. From a banking and law enforcement perspective, it is a HUGE red flag. From a criminal perspective it puts a huge target on your back for anyone that knows about it. This doesn't excuse the shit ass cops in this video, but the only thing that guy could do to be more stupid with that money is light it on fire", "Lol, we elected the man who authored the bill to expand it\n\nhttps://www.congress.gov/bill/98th-congress/senate-bill/948", "Crazy, thats exactly what happened to me. I was boxed in by the trucker and the cop. Couldnt change lanes in front of the cop because he was too close, he was matching my speed and I was slowing down because the trucker was also slowing down, because he saw the cop coming up and probably thought he was getting pulled over. By the time he pulled me over we were going around 50-55. I wasnt even as close to the truck as the guy in the video. \n\nThe second story I believe too, I swear some dispatchers and their dissemination of the info is ridiculous", "\"we have to move to the center\"\n\n Isn't that just going to the right?\n\n \"uh... No\"", ">Why WOULD you trust a bank?\n\nbecause of the FDIC?", "That's why the protect and serve crowd is quiet as fuck in here.", "This guy gets robbed by the cops for something legal and you call HIM the idiot? Way to blame the victim.", "It's so stupid how having large amounts of money is basically a crime. Any time someone has a large amount of money, cops ALWAYS think drugs.", "You're a meter maid that works on the highway. You're not a detective.", "When you make a deposit it is no longer your money. It is the banks money. They take your money and loan it out 8-9 times over and in return you get a negative interest rate on your savings account while the bank pockets the fees and loan interests and creates inflation, thus decreasing the purchasing power of said money. If you ask them real nice, and if it's a good day, they might give the money back to you, just don't ask for all of it at once. If it's a bad day then your money is most certainly gone.", "Speedy trial and civil court don’t belong in the same essay let alone the same sentence\n\nEspecially if you’re entering a civil suit against the government", "How can it be suspicious to drive below the speed limit if you’re behind another vehicle? If you go fast that’s called a collision lol", "And remember he’s a VETERAN so that’s supposed to make it even worse!", "HEROES WORK HERE", "Would you say that if drug money was paying for a drug lord candidate? Money is hard to track in the illegal drug/ gun game if you feel like the law doesn’t apply to you then you deserve this.", "Careful now, you are getting close to that scary CRT thing I keep hearing about.", "Allowing the use of dogs to create probable cause is just ripe for abuse. Makes no sense. If you don't have a warrant or consent to search, a police officer should not be able to essentially create the probable cause to do so.", "In fairness only one administration made a loophole for police to skirt around state restrictions on forfeiture as long as they give the feds a cut of the profits and it wasn't the one who lost the presidency and tried to end democracy over it.\nhttps://www.fisherbroyles.com/news/ag-sessions-ends-obama-era-policy-civil-asset-forfeiture", "Doesn't matter. Carrying money around might be dumb, but it's legal.", "Anyone that works for the government will lie to you faster than a cheating ex will.", "> This was rolled into the Comprehensive Crime Control Act of 1984.\n\nLooks like that text was earlier in [H.R.4481 - Justice Assistance Act of 1982](https://www.congress.gov/bill/97th-congress/house-bill/4481)", "Your beyond any kind of reason. You literally fell into every bitcoin talking point. \n\nThe fact that you think US printing money wasn’t necessary for the pandemic is pretty clear that you will not listen to any kind of reason and only follow trends other people set to creat more invisible value.\n\nStop acting like you figured out something we haven’t. Hope your young and didn’t put you life saving into this", "In countries like Canada, there are warning saying not enter the US with a large amount of cash because of the risk of it being seized.", ">rights (I have my own moral exceptions to this- but that's unimportant).\n\nMaybe unimportant to this discussion but the reasons for limiting someone's rights are actually critically important in preserving everyone else's rights.", "police don't care if you're rich enough. \n\nhell cops often are the drug smugglers. \n\nthey are above the law in the US so of course they are in all sorts of crime.", "Kalief Browder would disagree. New York (and many other states) have laws that basically allow the state to repeatedly and indefinitely postpone trials.", "Thanks for the examples. I do see your point with some of those but also know that some of those cases involved rioting and looting. I do agree that the police ought to give peaceful protestor the ability to leave a protest that has become unlawful due to the actions of others. Still, I agree that at least some of these examples proved the point that this still happens. Obviously there is still work to be done.", "This happens a lot more often than people realize.", "I cringed when I saw PG Co. ooof. I’d say damn near every county in MD is full of the kinds of cops that would kick the dog like on r/all today. Example: I grew up where a certain Officer “Speed” would park his car after the crest of a very small hill. I’m talkin maybe 10 feet of elevation change. Happens to be in a school zone and a speed limit of 25. Everybody taps their breaks when going on a hill right? Well he’d catch anyone that was going 28 or over. Terrible. Made money for the county though.", "This is America\n\n\ndongloving intensifies", "But there's literally an amendment in the constitution saying people cannot have their property taken away, so how is this legal? It's the most blatantly unconstitutional thing I've ever seen.", "How many places do you know will give you 50k in fiat currency for your bitcoin? Lile where you can walk in and go look I transferred you some btc now hand me cash.", "I do sports betting sometimes. I live pretty close to Nevada so I go down to place some bets. Sometimes i will walk out of the casino with more than 10 grand (very rarely though). They pay you in cash btw when you place sports bets. So yes I obviously have my money in a bank and in other places but yeah i feel really sketched out with that large amount of cash. But That’s not going to stop me from placing large sports bet parlays", "> How has this system been accepted by society since it's beginning.\n\nRacism and class warfare.", "He should have shot them.", "You know what's not illegal. Backup. \n\nUsually for every 2 sedan hwp units, I see one k9 SUV.\n\nThey call for backup. Process your ticket, check your insurance, check your record, check your plates. That all conviently takes 20-30 minutes. Dog shows up in 15 minutes. \n\nWell now if you refuse the search they have the K9 ready, no delay there.", "Absolute scum of the earth that robber", "> generally looks at the request as a slight and doles out harsher punishments.\n\nPunishing people for exercising their constitutional rights? Sounds very legal.", "It’s crazy. Dude got stuck behind a slow moving vehicle. He even had a good following distance too but whatever. He then decide he was going to pass but nooooo apparently being a safe driver is “suspicious”. Fuck this.", "Have I? I haven't actually. Another person cited some good examples. Thanks for playing.", "The solution is to not treat every perceived breach of law or ordinance as reasonable of deploying lethal force.", "Another reason to never agree to talk to the cops or agree to a search.\n\nMake them get a warrant or arrest you.", "I actually like standing up for cops more so then other people but this garbage is so infuriating. The way he was rubbing his hands together once he heard that their was over 10K in the car was disgusting. This type shit needs to end and quickly. I get the original idea behind but now its completely twisted. Like if the guy has no priors for drugs what real evidence do you have that it was for drugs.... Peices of shit in this one. Someone call officer Dangle in Reno to deal with these assclowns.", "Fuck the police", "By pulling you over they've already detained you. So the answer will be yes.\n\nNow you have to ask the reason for that, and even if it's an illegal detention you can't just leave the scene without being released by the officer. You have to let it play out, then argue in court that it was illegal.\n\nThe system is set up to allow cops freedom to harass anyone. The best you can hope for is that it gets dropped by the prosecutor or tossed out of court by the judge.", ">Y.T.’s mom pulls up the new memo, checks the time, and starts reading it. The estimated reading time is 15.62 minutes. Later, when Marietta \\[her boss\\] does her end-of-day statistical roundup, sitting in her private office at 9:00 P.M., she will see the name of each employee and next to it, the amount of time spent reading this memo, and her reaction, based on the time spent, will go something like this: \n• Less than 10 min.: Time for an employee conference and possible attitude counseling. \n• 10-14 min.: Keep an eye on this employee; may be developing slipshod attitude. \n• 14-15.61 min.: Employee is an efficient worker, may sometimes miss important details. \n• Exactly 15.62 min.: Smartass. Needs attitude counseling. \n• 15.63-16 min.: Asswipe. Not to be trusted. \n• 16-18 min.: Employee is a methodical worker, may sometimes get hung up on minor details. \n• More than 18 min.: Check the security videotape, see just what this employee was up to (e.g., possible unauthorized restroom break). \nY.T.’s mom decides to spend between fourteen and fifteen minutes reading the memo. It’s better for younger workers to spend too long, to show that they’re careful, not cocky. It’s better for older workers to go a little fast, to show good management potential. She’s pushing forty. She scans through the memo, hitting the Page Down button at reasonably regular intervals, occasionally paging back up to pretend to reread some earlier section. The computer is going to notice all this. It approves of rereading. It’s a small thing, but over a decade or so this stuff really shows up on your work-habits summary.\n\n\\-- Snow Crash, Neal Stephenson", "Elephantine verity", "so correct FTFY", "Shut up, don’t talk, be polite, DO NOT CONSENT TO ANY SEARCH! For all things holy and sacred, people need to learn this….. \n\nHello officer, I do not consent to any searches of my person or property.\n\nAm I free to go?\n\n“Well, not exactly, see what I need to know is….”\n\nRinse repeat above.", "I can't believe people unironically put up those signs", "That's not quite true anymore. The legal standard used to be \"probably cause\", meaning that there needed to be an observed piece of evidence that indicated a high probability of a crime. The new legal standard is \"reasonable suspicion\", which basically doesn't mean anything other than \"I'm a cop and think I'm allowed to do it\". \n\nYes, this is unconstitutional. No, the legislative and judicial branches don't care.", "The cops are robbers. If it happened in the man's home, he'd be within his rights to kill armed robbers.", "Thank you, that is a good example. Although, we're there cheers?", "Too bad that’s not how it actually works", "Cancel culture is what's really shitting on right to due process and I believe that's more left wing than right", "Cops are America's most successful street gang, everyone knows that.", "The thing that gets me is cops KNOW a lot of what they do is flat out wrong and unjust, yet they do it with no remorse whatsoever. It's as if they feel entitled to another man's hard earned money, savings, or property.", "When the law is this corrupt, there is no law. Welcome to the Wild West ya’ll.", "Especially in Nevada, where recreational cannabis consumption is legal.", "Road pirates baby", "It is absurd they were pulled over both for going under the speed limit as well as following too close. That means they were behind a vehicle travelling below the limit so logically they are also stuck going too slow.", ">The fact that you think US printing money wasn’t necessary for the pandemic is pretty clear that you will not listen to any kind of reason and only follow trends other people set to creat more invisible value.\n\nSon, I never mentioned once about the pandemic requiring printing. You are strawmanning and welcome to blockland. I don't converse with people who make up their talking points.", "You must have a bad time being alive", "As someone who preferred four or five other candidates, but still voted for Biden, then seeing just how close the results were, I don't think any other candidate could've gotten that many votes, even against Trump.\n\nRegarding progressive ideals, Biden has come a long way. Yes, beliefs/statements aren't the same as passed legislation, but the fact Biden is advocating for many progressive ideals is progress in itself. Also, the senate system is fundamentally flawed.", "wants to make a point\n\ncites known conservative propaganda machine the fucking Federalist lmfaoooo", "Must feel so great to legally rob people while filming.", "Don’t forget all the overtime they’re going to rack up on the case too because they can’t possibly stop looking for people to pull over for bullshit in lieu of just working the forfeiture case during normal duty hours.", "r/badcopnodonut", "Fucking copa. So many of them are just criminals with badges.", "Isn't it well known that trace amounts of narcotics exist on almost all in circulation paper money? How is a dog test on any random amount of money proof of anything?", "/r/bitcoin \\- unseizable", "Conditioning. Both classical and operant, on a century long scale nearly.", "Wow. You missed the mark so bad it physically hurts to read this. First of all, your first example is absurdly racist (I'm sure I just need to work on my reading comprehension though right?) and the 2nd is a result of returning land through reparations for a very long history of abuse. The poster you responded to was listing incentives for joining the armed services, not even remotely comparable. They were also only pointing out that those things are benefits that all citizens have in other countries, it was an apt point to make even if you disagree.", "Literal highway robbery.", ">It was only after Lara sued the DEA for blowing its deadline to either give him his cash back or file a forfeiture case against it in federal court, and only after The Washington Post post reported on his case, that the government agreed to return his money. Lara is still pursuing lawsuits against the DEA and the Nevada Highway Patrol.\n\nThat's so fucked up.", "You got an $800 ticket for doing 80 in a 70 zone???", "", "You need good people with a proper moral compass to keep these processes in check. Unfortunately, these people are far outweighed by the narcissistic and power hungry people who often find them selves in positions that oversee these processes.", "So you trust the government to protect your money in case the bank loses it, not the bank itself. The FDIC exists BECAUSE of shitty practices by banks, and it existed in 2008 when giant banks fucked over millions of Americans, and got off scott free.", "Ok lol", "Cops are all assholes. \n\nMoving on.", "So can they just empty your bank account the moment you get accused of any monetary crime like laundering or embezzlement? I thought they were supposed to just \"freeze\" your funds, causing you to be unable to access them, despite technically still owning the money.", "Huge... tracts of land", "No you're worthless like every conservative/republican. I got better things to do with my time. Like laugh at everybody who earned their Herman Cain award today.", "To be fair you can't really go into Canada right now without the cops seizing you", "Respectfully. Trump will go down in history as the worst president ever seen in the United States.", "There's a bit of that, but it also means that if the Dems do get dragged left by e.g. the the same forces that've resulted in Bernie and AOC, then Biden shifts too.", "They'll take $100K in BTC happily. Love them. Based metal merchant. Note that's not fiat, but gold. I'd much rather have that with hyperinflation. Side note, Venezuela went Modern Monetary Theory and their fiat is worthless and a 1 oz silver coin can feed you for one month there now. Buy precious metals as a hedge in case Biden goes full on printer brrr.\n\n[https://www.moneymetals.com/](https://www.moneymetals.com/)", "That’s what the person you replied to was saying", "Oh I absolutely agree, but the point still stands that hoarding cash is a bad idea. Especially bad is transporting over 10k in a vehicle at any time.", "Drug smugglers, or drug dealers? \n\nBecause drug smugglers are rich/powerful enough that they have connections within law enforcement and are mostly allowed to traffic their products with impunity. It's really only drug dealers/users that are subject to actual legal enforcement.", "There's a LOT of skepticism about whether drug-dogs are accurate, or if they're just responding to both conscious and unconscious signals/body language in their handlers.\n\nIf I recall, actual scientific tests have shown drug dogs don't have particularly impressive results in controlled settings, much like other \"forensic science\" pseudoscience like polygraphy (\"lie-detectors,\") bite-mark analysis, and blood-splatter analysis.\n\nMost of the things you see on CSI are all bunk on a scientific level. Even fingerprint and DNA analysis are WAY more fallible than the courts want to accept. The real science tends to be exonerating evidence, while the pseudo-science behind damning evidence has largely been tainted by a natural conflict of interest within the prosecution.", "this is why whenever i drive in the states we dont carry much cash at all, just enough to get us gas to the place we are going, screw carrying cash", "That's not what I was referring to, but also a good point. Sure the people couldn't afford the homes, but at the end of the day, their money was stolen and were intentionally left homeless by banks squeezing the working class. We don't blame grandma when she gets gets taken advantage of by telemarketers, do we? No, we try to prosecute the people that stole grandma's money. Why do it to the poor?\n\n I'm referring to their illegal seizures of homes following the housing crash https://www.salon.com/2013/05/02/the_foreclosure_fraud_settlement_was_a_big_dud/", "Cops\n\nCops take the money. They are agents of the State, but let's make sure we're being clear. It's at the cops discretion whether they want to take your money. And the police that seize the assets can sell it off and use the money to fund their own department. \n\n\"Most of the money seized by this civil asset-forfeiture process returns to the law-enforcement agencies that seized it, providing funds for a variety of law-enforcement needs and desires, including exercise equipment, squad cars, jails, military equipment and even a margarita maker.\"\n\nhttps://pulitzercenter.org/stories/no-drugs-no-crime-and-just-pennies-school-how-police-use-civil-asset-forfeiture", "> This is what I'm wondering. Vets shouldn't get special treatment from the law\n\nI agree with you, but I'd be lying if I said having a \"Veteran\" sticker on my drivers' license hasn't gotten me out of a ticket or two.", "It's far from perfect and needs reform, but much better than fedora-tipping \"no cops or courts\" IMO.", "Fuck the police, fuck em dead", "So you’re saying it’s better that the organization with the most power is robbing people instead of ones with less power", "Literally one of the grievances listed in the Declaration of Independence.", "Your money isn't a person and therefore isn't entitled to due process! /s", "Exactly. Unless you get pulled over by a cop and they declare it drug money.", "This is the dumbest logic I've heard.", "People don't understand probable cause. At the point that they ask if dogs can search your car they most likely already have probable cause to do it. A traffic stop in and of itself is probable cause to search a vehicle, even if the reasoning is bullshit. Speeding can be spun into probable cause to search you, \"I smelled alcohol\" is probable cause, even if they didn't actually smell anything.\n\nIt really chaps my ass when people say things like \"yeah, you don't have to wait if they try and get drug sniffing dogs\". Any advice that starts with \"don't comply with police\" is shit advice. Try and drive away and there is a 100% chance you get pitted and cuffed, and a 50% chance you get shot. Comply, don't answer questions, and let your lawyer sort all the bullshit out if it comes to that. But please, for the love of God, don't be that person who thinks they can legal eagle their way around a police officer. There's a reason the saying goes \"you can beat the rap but you can't beat the ride\"", "I've never had an employer that thinks laws are anything more than suggestions.", "Lol. I dont crap on people for citing CNN. \nHere is pinnacle of leftist propaganda for you if you can only handle facts coming from your side. \nhttps://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/09/08/civil-asset-forfeitures-more-than-double-under-obama/", "The most dangerous gang in America", "He thinks being stopped at the border or a restaurant health inspection is the same as a random stop and search police checkpoint. He’s insane.", "Traffic laws are specifically written as a way to provide cops an excuse to pull anyone over, for any reason, at any time. It's to give them \"probable cause\" into other, bigger things they hope to catch you on.", "Kicked off by the Scots who yet again had a problem with England.\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bishops%27\\_Wars", ">Not a left/right thing\n\nI beg to differ. Boot lickers lean to a side.", "Had a similar thing happen but in Australia - was parked in a car park asleep in the back seat on my car after a party, with my car keys in my backpack, which was in the trunk of the car. I woke up to a knock on the window at 2am from a Maglight torch and half the states police force surrounding the car (I was half asleep after being woken up and had a few drinks earlier, so in my haze it seemed like heaps of police were there!) and they asked me to get out of the car and breath tested me. Wouldn’t tell me what my reading was but then insisted I come back to the station with them for a formal breath test. \n\nI asked why, as I hadn’t been driving the vehicle since I arrived at the party 7 or so hours before (which was a short 300m walk from the car park I had left the car in that night) and I had been asleep in the back seat of the car and the keys couldn’t possibly be further away from the ignition - there is absolutely zero chance I was going to be driving with the keys in the trunk of the car lol \n\nThey charged me with a high range DUI which is instant suspension of licence until it is dealt with by the courts. \n\nI pled not guilty, lawyered up (which cost me more than the fine would have) and by the time it went to court and the judge tore a new asshole into the police for their stupidity, it had been about 6 months and multiple court appearances due police not having their case ready etc. \n\nAll up, the case was thrown out, I was down about $8,000-$10,000 and had been unable to drive for over 6 months because my licence was suspended until reinstated by the courts. \n\nThe DUI fine would have been considerably cheaper and the high range licence suspension probably another 3-6 months had I actually been guilty, but fuck having that on my record when I had clearly gone out of my way to do the right thing. \n\nUltimately though, I still got a worse punishment than someone who had a low to mid range DUI and arguably a high range considering my legal costs, all to fight something I should never have been charged with to begin.", "Didn’t California get rid of bail? I guess the problem is if the person is truly dangerous then they will be free. But a high up gang member who is truly dangerous can prolly make bail.", "Sort of depends on your state.\n\nIf you've been drinking and you're behind the wheel... first of all, fuck you, you're a piece of shit. Second of all, you may as well request a lawyer immediately and shut your mouth.\n\nIf you're completely stone cold sober, you might want to consider picking your battles and just complying. In Florida, for example, simply refusing to take a breathalyzer results ~~is~~ in a mandatory and immediate 1 year suspension of your driver license. By law. Have fun fighting that one, even if you were completely innocent. =\\\n\nSources from law sites.\n\nhttps://www.attorney-fisher.com/blog/2017/october/should-i-take-a-florida-breathalyzer-test-if-im-/\n\nhttps://www.monroekinglaw.com/blog/2018/november/can-i-refuse-to-blow-during-a-florida-dui-stop-/\n\nEdit: Spelling.", "As a non American, Everything I've read about their country makes me glad I don't live there. The corruption seems just as bad as 3rd world countries. They've just found ways to hide it in plain sight.", "If it's going to happen anyway, then all the more reason to assert your rights. In one instance you get stuck with jail time and a destroyed car. In the other, at least there are fewer questions regarding whether or not you're stuck with a bullshit charge.", "And we're just gonna ignore that the feds will seize your property cuz they fucking feel like. Great priorities", "> If you say no\n\nWhen... When you say \"no\".\n\nAnd actually, you shouldn't say \"no\", because sometimes the question is \"Would you mind if I have a look in your backseat?\"\n\nWhat you should say is, \"I don't consent to searches.\"\n\n> If you say no they will tell you their PC and proceed anyways.\n\nWhen you say \"I don't consent to searches\", they might tell you their PC and proceed anyways.\n\nIf they do proceed anyways, then that gives you the ability to challenge their probable cause later in case they find anything. If you consent to searches, then you lose every advantage.", ">Fyodor Dostoyevsky said it best. \"A society should be judged not by how it treats its outstanding citizens but by how it treats its criminals\"\n\nSimilarly, you can sometimes easily see someone's true character by how they treat the wait-staff.", "Yebbut then you gotta deal with Daniel Boone National Forest growers attacking you. You're too close; stay away from this one.", "Others already posted it.\n\nUS. V. Rodriguez 2014/15 case.\n\nhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodriguez_v._United_States", "Yah but there’s lots of people in jail waiting for trials they are non violent and can’t make bail. Then the speed of the system can keep them in prison for years", "I attended CPAC a few years back in college when I still considered myself a Republican. One of the speakers was cop advocating for the repeal of civil asset forfeiture. \n\nThe libertarians loved it, though there were definitely some people in the crowd who seemed confused because they thought taking criminals’ stuff was a good thing, but a cop was telling them it was bad.\n\nMeanwhile where I come from the police were allied with the local Democratic political machine. So it’s not as simple as it seems.", "Control Freak, cops are out of control💯🇺🇸", "Desktop version of /u/dcux's link: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodriguez_v._United_States>\n\n --- \n\n ^([)[^(opt out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiMobileLinkBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^(]) ^(Beep Boop. Downvote to delete)", "Thanks Joe Biden!/s", "I've been saying for a long time, there's plenty of right-wing people who are totally cognizant of the exact same issues Left-wing people talk about all the time.\n\nThe difference is in how they respond and where they place the blame. Lefties follow the history of Cops from their origins as fugitive slave-catchers, and how that's led to the standard that Cops defend Capitol rather than people. Right wingers just get angry in general and use that as another cog in their machine of political spite.", "Never, for any reason, talk to the police. They are only trying to find evidence against you. Never. Never. Never.", "This is what you guys are supporting when you ask for bigger government. Its just the nature of the animal, more corruption bullshit laws that none of us want.", "Can confirm. Had my truck ransacked after K9 false alerted while officer was \"taking it out for a piss\". Remember, all of these people saying do this or do that when stopped by cops are forgetting that shitty cops don't give a fuck about following the law. Do what you need to do, but don't endanger yourself when you encounter Captain America out there.", "America baby. Love it or GET THE FUCK OUT!\n\n/s", "Use Bitcoin and nobody can take your money. \n\nBitcoin is the best money ever conceived, and if you're scoffing now you'll learn soon enough.", "So now they 'smell marijuana' and that gives them PC to search the car.", "A black man would have been behind bars this whole time and the money gone.", "Love it how Americans say they are the freest country in the world but then shit like this happens. What a dystopian hellscape the U.S. is.", "Not as many as go under reported.\n\nIt's hard to say how much was in that duffle bag, they didn't count it on the scene and the receipt they gave him probably didn't have an exact dollar figure. So if the cop simply pocketed $10k out of that $87k then it would be almost impossible to prove you had more that the cop turned in. Even if you win the case you might get back less than was taken while that cop keeps a nice bonus for himself.", "Or more likely, Americans don’t have the mental capacity to remember more than the first 2 amendments…", "Unless you make it an LPT, then you're golden.", "Yeah...fuckin' serfs.", "It shouldn't be an issue to carry cash. You want to risk being robbed ok fine but it one of the robbers shouldn't be law enforcement.", "It’s still insane that this has been ruled as allowed by the fourth amendment.", "Because armored trucks have drivers who are also armed.\n\nI'd imagine they would try this at least once to see if they can get away with it", "Get out of banks, just use these financial service providers to help you transfer bitcoin.", "In the US big business lobby for Bill's so they are written to limit that, in many circumstances.\n\nI had to file suit against my employer and healthcare plan administrator (the company self insured, but hired an insurance company to administer the insurance) for maliciously retroacticley denying a preapproved claim 364 days from the procedure date. 364 days is the legal deadline for denying a claim, of course. \n\nBecause of the type of healthcare plan I had, I was expressly prohibited from being able to recover any fees incurred during litigation. \n\nOf course, as soon as they received notice of legal action they approved and paid the claim.\n\nI was out $3.5k\n\nImagine if even 1 out of 10 people dont understand or aren't able to defend themselves in this situation, the insurer saves a boatload of cash. \n\nEven in my case, they likely held the funds in an investment vehicle allowing them to earn some profit while they delayed their contractual obligation.\n\nThe claim was $161,000USD. I've been told by a friend who used to code software for insurance companies that he personally wrote code to trigger the start of this denial process for any claim over $150,000USD.", ">Civil forfeiture should be abolished.\n\nBut then how will police departments afford mine resistant armored patrol vehicles?! /s", "I remember in middle school learning that the majority of paper money has detectable amounts of drug residue on it. Shit, the video even cites this. Cops know this too. While the driver may not have been dealing drugs, someone at some point in that money’s lifecycle was. Basically, the money is “guilty” and that’s why it’s something they can seize with impunity. Utter and total bullshit.", "It’s all breaking. \n\nIf you have half a brain you already bought a bunch of bitcoin.", "A disturbing amount of people that claim to stand for justice seem to be quite happy with rape as long is it's somebody that they feel deserves it.", "“No”\n\n“Oh, you have something to hide? Why are you driving across state lines in a rental and refusing to let me search you? Oh you’re trying to leave, sir this is a legal stop. Stop fleeing. Radio: I need backup suspect is acting strangely and trying to flee from a legal stop”\n\nNot that your advice is “wrong”, but a crooked cop is a crooked cop and sometimes that’s just all there is to it. These guys did all this shit in broad daylight ON CAMERA to a damn US military veteran. Absolute insanity. \n\nMany cops are not all that concerned with protecting the rights of you, someone they perceive to be a criminal. They know the tricks, and the loopholes, and the lies, which allow them to fuck with people. They just try to lay charges, hand out tickets, seize cash/drugs/whatever, and let the lawyers and courts fight over whether it was legal.", "non issue?! what if he gets in a car accident and it catches fire or he stops for a few minutes and it gets stolen? he would well and truly fucked. there are way more reasons than cops to not keep that much cash around like that.", "I can't count how many clips I've seen of dogs \"alerting\" on vehicles while they just look like they're sniffing around doing dog stuff. \n \nHES WALKING ON ALL FOUR LEGS, THAT MEANS DRUGS", "Got any reasons why? Not answering questions not relevant to the stop and not consenting to search seems pretty basic to me.\n\nDisclosing possession of firearms and explosives makes sense and is probably required by law. But disclosure of cash makes no sense, and consenting to search makes no sense.", "Resisting is stupid, cooperating is even more so.\n\nCooperate as the law dictates and let them break it so you have a leg to stand on in court.", "So you have to buy a gift card....how convenient", "Okay, laugh away your humanity if you want to. Personally I find those stories heartbreaking. It is hard to be empathetic towards their stupidity but I'm not going to give up my humanity just because I don't agree with their life choices. To me, they are like drunk drivers... blah, blah, blah... yeah, I know you were making an assumption but you know what they say about those.", "But American redditors keep telling me they have the most freedom in the whole world!?", "they shot a dude in a wheelchair 8 times in the back last week for not respecting their authority. \n\nThe only rights you have are the ones you can afford to buy.", "This dude doesn't trust anyone now", "Here's the entire Forfeiture section for anyone interested.\n\nTitle III: Forfeiture - Comprehensive Forfeiture Act of 1984 - Amends the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Statute (RICO) to specify that property subject to forfeiture for racketeering activity includes: (1) all proceeds obtained directly or indirectly from racketeering activity; and (2) real and tangible and intangible personal property.\n\nMakes property forfeitable to the United States upon the commission of the act giving rise to forfeiture. Permits the forfeiture of property which has been transferred to a third party, but includes a provision protecting innocent bona fide purchasers.\n\nAuthorizes a court to order the forfeiture of substitute assets of the defendant where the original property cannot be located or traced.\n\nAuthorizes a court to take appropriate action preserving the availability of property during the pre-indictment period effective for up to 90 days. Specifies the circumstances under which a temporary restraining order may be entered without notice to the affected party.\n\nAuthorizes the Attorney General to grant petitions for remission or mitigation of forfeiture. Allows the Attorney General to establish regulations governing the restitution and disposition of forfeited property.\n\nAmends the Comprehensive Drug Abuse Prevention and Control Act of 1970 to establish general criminal forfeiture provisions for felony violations under titles II and III. Includes provisions similar to the RICO amendments of this Act, relating to property subject to forfeiture, third party transfers, asset substitution, pre-indictment orders, and disposition of property.\n\nCreates a rebuttable presumption of forfeitability of certain property.\n\nAuthorizes a court to issue a warrant authorizing the seizure of property subject to forfeiture in the same manner provided for a search warrant, if other injunctive relief would not assure the availability of the property.\n\nProvides that a criminal forfeiture proceeding shall stay any civil forfeiture proceeding with respect to the same property.\n\nSets forth procedures for an ancillary hearing to resolve third party claims. Makes it unlawful to invest the income of a felony drug violation.\n\nPermits the forfeiture action to be brought in the district in which the defendant is found or is being prosecuted.\n\nAmends the Comprehensive Drug Abuse Prevention and Control Act of 1970 to allow the Attorney General to transfer drug-related forfeited property to other Federal, State or local agencies.\n\nEstablishes within the United States Treasury, the Department of Justice Assets Forfeiture Fund to pay for maintenance of forfeited property, awards to informants, and valid liens and mortgages against such property.\n\nAmends the Tariff Act of 1930 to provide for the seizure of vessels, vehicles, merchandise or baggage valued at $100,000 or less. Requires written notice of such seizure to all interested parties. Increases the surety bond for any person claiming interest in the seized property to $5,000, or ten percent of the value of the claimed property, whichever is less.\n\nEstablishes in the Treasury the Customs Forfeiture Fund to pay for maintenance of forfeited property and awards to informants.\n\nRequires the deposit in such Fund of all proceeds from the sale and disposition of property forfeited under custom law.\n\nAllows for the retention of forfeited property for official use or for transfer to other Federal, State or local governmental agencies assisting in related Federal law enforcement.\n\nIncreases from $50,000 to $150,000 the award of compensation given to informers for information leading to forfeiture.\n\nGrants customs officers arrest authority and the right to carry firearms.\n\nRepeals provisions of the Internal Revenue Code dealing with customs officers' law enforcement authority to conform to this Act.\n\nProvides that seizures of property effected by customs officers shall be governed by this Act.\n\nSource: [https://www.congress.gov/bill/98th-congress/senate-bill/1762](https://www.congress.gov/bill/98th-congress/senate-bill/1762)", "Also, cost of living is skyrocketing, lets not forget", ">that some of those cases involved rioting and looting.\n\nKeyword some. A few cases of looting or vandalism \"justified\" a nationwide violent crackdown.", "This is an utter disgrace. What a horrible country to be living in. I hope yo never go there again.", "Except they aren't being dragged to the left. The progressives have been shut down in every single instance in the interest of party unity and \"not letting the fascists win\". That's ignoring the fact that actual left wing politics is systematically and purposefully kept out from centers of power. Even Bernie and AOC are right wing in absolute terms and comparative to basically every other liberal democracy. The democratic party exists to keep political discussion within a very small and limited window that doesn't threaten the ruling class. https://www.stopmebeforeivoteagain.org/stopme/chapter02.html", "I lived in Texas and it's the only place I've ever been regularly pulled over on the highway. Never ticketed but I got pulled over multiple times for going a couple MPH over the speed limit.\n\nOnce was for going 72 in a 70, an amount within the error of a speedometer, and was getting grilled about my trip. Got all weird about the concept of taking a day trip to Austin for Ikea. Found it funny because he gave me a warning and said I'd get ticketed if I went more than 75 again. Took a lot to not say something snarky lol. They were obviously just fishing for something else but boy was it annoying.", "Curfews aren't brought to trial anywhere. Charges are always dropped unless someone is also charged with something violent, looting or rioting (essentially undercutting their argument for a first amendment defense of protesting).", "I rage quit at the blue icons", "You're not even remotely worth reading all this. Tl:dr it for me or preferably just stfu.", "And fourth.", "That's a pretty ignorant take. Dogs are used all over the world. Do you think police and military around the entire world are in on this conspiracy?", "That's very rare they returned it.", "The first cop did sound like he wanted to let him go though, he was saying it IS weird, but hes been answering my questions and has receipts. The other cop seemed to be the bigger dickhead, but initial cop went with it so still to blame.", "This has been a documented behaviour for a while now.\n\nOnce they \"confiscate\" the money, it is gone. Lawyers have not been able to get any of it back. There has been multiple lawsuits about this.", "I tend to be conservative but I love all you fuckers. The law is ridiculous! I’m about to turn over $15,000 to my ex from my 401k and I realized I will be very subject to this law. It’s fucking ridiculous and arbitrary. Fuck you law!", "All the strippers and coke dealers were grateful to receive the money he worked so hard for later that night when the troopers stopped in for lap dances, sex and hard liquor\n\nI don’t know this for a fact. Just making a guess.", "and even if you lose that case, you're still $87,000 richer since you charged the money with the crime of... being money. And money can't afford a lawyer so you get to keep your loot.", "Did you know that the total assets forfeiture in the United States is greater than all of the personal burglary and theft combined.", "This this is Only legal because joe Biden proposed this law in the 80’s", "Or at least illegal until after your guilty verdict! When you're innocent, it's just theft.", "> Civil forfeiture should be abolished.\n\nI'm sure Biden will get right on that /s", "Barclays center in nyc last summer where cops just started pepper spraying the crowd which led to chaos. Feds last summer grabbing random people near protests and driving them around for a while before dropping them off. NYC last summer multiple instances of spontaneous peaceful protests being corralled by cops using a technique called kettling where they block pathways to trap groups of protesters to be arrested. Multiple instances of cops attacking people in the general vicinity of protests then just leaving them on the ground - good enough to beat but not worth arresting? Multiple instances of cops detaining large peaceful protests for hours by blocking off both sides of bridges the protest were crossing. \n\nMost of the time these protests turned violent was because cops decided to aggressively do something about the large peaceful crowd that had formed to protest. Whether that be charging in to arrest certain individuals or pepper spraying or unnecessary crowd control leading to arrests. They engineer these scenarios with their behavior to make the arrests acceptable. Crazy how you can be arrested for resisting arrest when a cop just grabs you for no reason. \n\nEven with the looting/riots occurring there were multiple incidents of people in their homes being harassed or assaulted. Cops or national guard casually firing tear gas into peoples homes in Minnesota for instance.", "This is inanely fallacious in so many areas. \n\nRich neighborhoods have less gangs because gangs are most often committing crimes to advance their goals (to be fair these goals are usually basic needs that they are willing to fight for, even at the expense of their own community), and the pressure to commit crimes is low when you are wealthy. The rates of police being called in wealthy neighborhoods is also lower. Overall, poorer people have more interactions with the police than wealthier people. It has nothing to do with the \"police being their gang\". \n\nGangs are \"tied to the community they rule\" merely by geography. They don't have any incentives to hold the best interests of their community at heart, hence why gangs more often than not hurt the community they are a part of, rather than help (of course, there are exceptions, some gangs actually do bring in revenue to the community even via illegal drug trades and such. Whether that wealth actually benefits the community though is another matter). The only people gangs are accountable to is themselves, and it is explicitly so, as opposed to police, where there is still leeway for the law to influence them and hold them accountable.", "wtf, crazy", "That's what they said about Bush. Look at him now. Didn't even take 20 years.", "You’re power hungry", "He was upfront, clear, and honest with nothing to hide. \n\nIf he had tried to hide it and had his money seized you'd be saying.\n\n\"He should have just been upfront and honest with them\"", "Rand Paul is really the only guy who constantly talks about this issue. I think most people have no idea this is a thing", "Civil Asset Forfeiture is the biggest fraud there is", "PA is so fucked. My bud was driving through and was arrested for intent to distribute because he had two 8ths of weed in separate bags. No idea what it's going to be like when NJ and NY legalize recreational.", "Don't they have like 60 miles of highways that they actually have to worry about in that state?", "Cops are cops.", "Reminder, Trump loves civil forfeiture and has threatened to destroy the career of any politician who tries to change the law. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6CsSiD2hHM", "They said 80%. The total was 87,000 so 70,000 was about right. It was bothering me until I read the article with the actual amount.", "This shit doesn’t work when dealing with drug cops / gang cops / corrupt cops etc\n\nLike obviously your goal is to not further incriminate yourself. If you get arrested and a detective starts questioning you, don’t say a damn thing. But these little traffic stop tricks only work if the cop isn’t feeling in the mood to fuck you over.", "It's also a recent ruling and has led to people getting upset about all kinds of ramifications with our slow justice. Guilty people walking frew, charges being delayed, namely because our justice system doesn't have the capacity to practice law fairly.", "You can thank the drug war", "> Right to a Speedy Trial\n\nPeople forget about this one. The Justice system moves incredibly slow because it's almost procedural at this point for a defendant to waive their right to a speedy trial. It gives you less time to prepare a defense but it also gives the prosecutor less time to talk to witnesses and otherwise build their case.\n\nProsecutors or their bosses are elected officials and don't like to go into fair fights with the possibility of getting another one in the losses column. If they aren't at least fairly sure they are going to win they are a lot more inclined to drop the charges.", "It's your freedom to be dumb and do what you want with your stuff. If he wanted to light it on fire (without harming others) for warmth than he's allowed to do that. Still dumb tho", "> especially since banks are a for profit service that no one is obligated to use...\n\nThis is why you should stop using banks and switch to a credit union instead. They're better in every way, not for-profit by definition, and owned by their members. Literally always. Fuck banks, make the switch.", "🤣💯 not me I’ll just put the titties under the 7.62 and rinse & repeat 🤣", "I watch that video once a year to remind myself. Don't ever talk to the police, they are not here to protect you, they're only there to close their case as quick as possible.", "An argument for Bitcoin.", "Put it in crypto and tell em you have no money", "This is one of the many things people are referring to when they talk about rape culture. Rape is never okay, but just about everyone has their own definition for what crimes warrant it.", "Thank you for the examples. My memory got clouded by the very real rioting an looting during this period that clouded my memory of the injustices that also occurred against those that were peacefully protesting.", "I got ninety nine problems but a bitch ain't one.", "Sure, but this guy came off as a window cracker who just looks ahead and is a total idiot.", "Hot take for the plebs: most people who have that kind of cash on hand are either avoiding taxes or are engaging in some illicit trade.", "Maybe one day we will stop sending people to prison for drugs and our police can focus on real crime", "what stops a cop from making sure his cousin deposits $20 from a small drug sale, then seizing all the bank location's money claiming some money was used to traffic drugs?", "Right, even if you really are allowed to legally drive off or not comply with police. You're gonna have to deal with the massive hassle likely to follow. It's one thing if you're prepared to fight that as a sort of form of protest or advocacy, it's entirely another if you were just trying to go about your day.\n\nA traffic stop itself isn't probable cause to search a vehicle but it can easily be used to find probable cause like you said. That's what I meant when I said probable cause could practically be anything. That's also why Rodriguez in Rodriguez v. United States won because the officer didn't document any probable cause.", "Reminder, Trump loves civil forfeiture and has threatened to destroy the career of any politician who tries to change the law. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6CsSiD2hHM", "I know how we can run everybody outta Rock Ridge. We’ll kill the first born male child in every household!", "Nazi Tax! Papers, pls", "Shocking, they used a dog to falsely alert on the cash for drugs. Abolish civil forfeiture, and abolish the use of police dogs. No more using dogs as a weapon to run people down and no more using them to falsely \"alert\" on drugs.", "So many downvotes by so many stupid people.", "Yeah there totally aren’t 500 videos per year posted on Reddit of this EXACT thing not working", "Most people can’t afford an attorney so basically anything can be “legal”. Actually most things are neither legal nor illegal until a charge is made. But remember, the people that made the laws and have the power to enforce them decide what is and isn’t legal.", "I'm sorry, I get that over a large population this problem can be quite sizable, but you simply can't tell me it's the type of thing a visitor should be worried about. When you can go weeks without even seeing more than a handful of police cars, or drive for years without ever being pulled over, let alone having your assets seized, you simply can't convince me that it would be anything but negligible possibility for someone visiting the country. But reddit leads people to believe this is a daily worry and occurrence for most everyone and it's not.", "cool. goodbye $6,000 (if you're lucky) in lawyer fees and court costs.", "+1 for the cryptosphere 🤷🏼‍♂️😕", "It only works on pre-paid cards, not debit cards.", "Would you look at that, the legal criminal squad strikes again. Thieves on the highway man, thieves on the highway.", "\\>”Am I being detained?” “Yes”\n\n\\> Then What?\n\nThen you ask why and when they answer you keep your mouth shut. Refuse to answer any more questions and only speak up to ask if you're free to go or to demand they get a supervising officer on scene.\n\nIf they don't have reason to detain you and they make some shit up you probably just won yourself a decent 5-6 figure settlement for your future false arrest lawsuit.\n\nCops aren't allowed to detain people just to try to trick them into giving consent to search. They have to have a legitimate reason that is based on their original reason for stopping you. If they stop you for a broken taillight they can't search your car for drugs or even make you wait for a drug-dog. If they see a meth pipe in the ashtray, then they can search your car.\n\nRefusing to answer questions is not cause for detainment.\n\nRefusal to consent to search is not cause for detainment.", ">A person working 40 hrs a weeks is creating value, Crypto is just a new kind of ponzi scheme\n\nTell me you don't understand crypto more Daddy.", "Always has been. Lower income communities with high police presence have known this for years. Only now since everyone is recording everything is it coming to the attention of more people.", "Got a link to support the claim Joe Biden is the reason we have civil asset forfeiture? A specific bill he drafted and got passed perhaps? \n\nAnd guess what. Even if you did have one, those that voted for him aren't a cult like the last administration had, and you'd see us criticize him too.", "Then find you innocent of all crimes and keep your money for being guilty.", "It’s because we’ve convinced everyone that “criminals” deserve whatever happens to them. In America, people are on the whole cruel to anyone with a record, even if that record was applied to them by an unjust system.", "https://www.reddit.com/user/Right\\_Requirement677/draft/7ecd9ef4-53bb-11ec-90e4-8648d3b96823", "you think the banks don't deal in illegal drugs (and other even more terrible legal shit that shouldn't be legal)? oh you sweet summer child.", "Same to any other time they do?", "> Not a left/right thing, its a human vs monsters thing.\n\nUnfortunately there is a very clear partisanship in this. The people who support the measures you're describing vote for one party only.", "Another friendly reminder, Trump loves civil forfeiture and has threatened to destroy the career of any politician who tries to change the law. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6CsSiD2hHM", "Girl I dated back in 2005, her mom and boyfriend had 3 pot plants that they'd use to smoke here and there.\n\nThe mom's bf was an experienced welder and I remember seeing a paystub of his - $39/hr. Back in 2005! Dude made bank. They lived in a smaller modest house.\n\nThey went on a weeklong vacation but didn't request a \"vacation hold\" for their newspapers. So they started piling up.\n\nAfter 5 days the paper guy was curious what was up and knocked on their door.\n\nThe mom and her bf hadn't closed their door properly so it opened after the paper guy knocked.\n\nPaper guy yells inside, hears nothing, and lets police know so they can do a welfare check.\n\nPolice come by, check around the house and end up finding the 3 pot plants.\n\nI forget if they had to leave and obtain a search warrant or how the process went from there but they ended up seizing his truck, his Harley, and a bunch of other stuff. It was the first and only time I've ever seen a house that had been searched. Literally every single thing from every cabinet and drawer in the entire house had been pulled out and dumped onto the floor.\n\nThey lived in a $120,000 house. And the bf alone made over $80k/yr before OT.\n\nFuck civil forfeiture.\n\nI also ended up breaking up with my girlfriend shortly after that happened so I don't know how it all ended up panning out.", "It directly affects the department and budget. You don't think they're going to get huge praise from the brass? You don't think they're going to get to go on more traincations and get fun new equipment to play with?", "Fair points. I'm sorry", "You can always get someone worse my man. But I never said anything about Bush. Going to be hard to beat Trump as the worst all time. When literally both sides of the aisle former presidents hate you. The world despises you. With wild nepotism and incopetency at any kind of briefting I will suprised if anyone worse comes along.", ">\t There was an attempted coup a year ago that very nearly succeeded.\n\nYou need to step away from hysteria-media for awhile.", "Probable cause is a joke. Even if you don't consent, they'll just call in a K9 unit which is trained to provide a positive hit on the handler's command to search the exterior. That's where they'll get probable cause.", "I have a friend that on occasion when he has had more than about 5 or 6 beers will go off for close to an hour about why he should be able to own a belt fed machine gun.", "This is really the lesson here. Man was screwed no matter what. The powerlessness in his situation is terrifying. None of us are immune to it. The way they were so nice to him while taking him to hell in a handbasket is just heartbreaking", "And retroactively punished in all instances, to drive a hot nail through this \"if we're cops, we strive to break all the laws\" thing that's been going in.\n\nReform the police, from the ground up.", "What is it about the veteran status that makes them capitulate? The PR or the capabilities of the pissed off veterans?", "As if the idea of ruining someone's life doesn't give nearly every cop a tiny little boner.", "You're still stuck with the hassle and expense. \n\nThe cops don't give a fuck.", "But at least he finally stopped the lawyer from making deals with a murderer.", "They should have to pay him court fees plus INTEREST! Not to mention any lost business ventures he could have used to invest in during that time.", "Right? Like, \"Jim, we're supposed to use all the money we steal from citizens for military surplus weapons, not fucking pina colada machines!\"", "Nah, it's not that complex. It's just so they can steal shit and you have to prove your innocence around the item they took. \nBasically, if I broke into your camper, and then broke into a safe in it. I could take all the money, guns, metals whatever and if I were a cop, I'd just says prove you didn't use these in connection to a crime. Now prove you didn't do anything at anytime in the last 4 years, without any reasonable doubt", "The dog alerted on the cash…..isn’t it a known fact certain denominations of bills are more like to be used for cocaine use?", "Also don't get out of your car. Better yet don't answer any questions at all.", "https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=51t1OsPSdBc", "Legal criminals.", "I don't mean to be rude but you seem very angry. Maybe I just caught you on a bad day? I hope you can find peace and if you ever just want to catch a beer and talk to someone, I'm game. I don't expect a positive response to this but I would feel bad if I didn't make the offer. Apologies if I'm reading you wrong.", "But that's what we're talking about, a guy who keeps all his money in cash because he's scared the bank will disappear his money. No argument from me that big banks use shady business practices.", "It is illegal in this country to have cash", "“I do not consent to a search at this time. I reserve my right to not answer any questions without legal representation.” These two sentences, respectfully stated, may have saved him a lot of trouble.", "100% this. Unless you are gonna die if you comply, you follow their orders. Don’t consent to anything and don’t SAY anything, keep your fucking mouth shut. Lawyer up. Anything they “can’t” do will be decided in court, not on the side of the road. If they violate your rights or don’t follow their procedures, there’s absolutely nothing you can do about it in the moment. Be polite and firm and hope for the best. Hopefully they’ll reciprocate. It’s all any of us can do.", "I got pulled over for \"looking like I was going to race\". I literally told the cop \"I drive a 2000 mitsubishi mirage that shakes when it reaches 75 MPH. Who would I be racing?\" I got lucky he let me go but wtf.", "Reductio ad absurdum", "> Civil forfeiture should be abolished.\n\nAlong with the fucking \"war on drugs\" that precipitated the thought process which made it seem like a good idea.", "> How can it be my fault, if I disagree with it happening? \n\nBecause everything you described disliking are the hallmarks of the right wing.\n\n> I'm a libertarian.\n\nMaybe you should look into who founded that and why. Hot tip, Sparky it was specifically to bring about the shit you're whining about.\n\n> I want everyone to be free to pretty much do what they want as long as they don't harm anyone else's freedom.\n\nGood job dipshit. You support stripping away the only possible protections we have from the wealthy exterminating everyone else's freedoms and you're too damned dumb to get that basic fact.\n\n> You bi partisan types are the issue.\n\nYou don't even know what the words you're using mean.\n\nFucking moron.", "It is literal highway robbery. I potentially have to go to the US for conventions selling a product next year and this stuff really has been making me not want to do it. It is completely unthinkable in this country. So many people in the US just don't realize how much of a nightmare their country is.", "Better yet, never respond at all", "Caveat: They're not allowed to hold you for an unreasonable amount of time but there is absolutely no legal definition of what is considered a reasonable amount of time.\n\nOn top of that, they're not allowed to hold you for the explicit purpose of waiting for a K9 unit; however, they can hold you as long as they want if they're still questioning you, filling out paperwork, etc. while the K9 unit is on the way since, technically, they're not waiting on the K9 unit. In other words, they'll call in the K9 unit and then bullshit you for however long it takes with questions and paperwork until the K9 unit arrives.", "You mean all those cops on the TV show cops aren't really trying to help people out if they get some honesty? I'm shocked!\n\nSeriously, the two big things I learned from that show is shut the hell up and don't have drugs in your car with a broken taillight. It's always the taillight for some reason.", "So what are PDs?", "I don’t have enough Reddit points for awards right now but this is an underrated comment that needs to be seen by everyone.", "or those you're willing to defend", "Keep telling people feds are the real thugs and drug dealers", "Maybe they also got those fees? And interest?", "God damn that would be horrifying.", "To add an alternative to this. There are brothers in California who are lawyers who have come up with a script to use if ever pulled over by cops in the state of California. I believe it’s 25 words and goes like this: \n\nWhy did you pull me over? \n\nI’m not discussing my day. \n\nAm I being detained or am I free to go? \n\n(If they say you are being detained) \n\nI invoke the 5th. (And shut the fuck up)", "What can be expected from legal thieves. They didn't get in the job to protect the people and uphold the law, they got in because they heard it's an easy way to get drugs, rape, and thieve.", "I pretty much despise all cops, at this point.\n\nGive me a reason to like you. Otherwise, fuck off.", "Not in Congress or the Senate unfortunately", "Ah yes, the USSR: where you are required to carry papers giving you permission from the government to carry your own money aroun- oh, right, this is America.\n\nWe are all doomed.", "You mean kicked off by England trying to control the Scots, right?", "at least it should go into the general tax funds for all services, not just into one pocket.", "Dude stfu. Bush literally had 2 illegal wars, millions of dead Iraqis, and the Great Recession on his hands. \n\nTrump pales in comparison. Only someone truly deluded believes trump comes close.", ">All this tells me is that if you’re in this situation, be prepared for a lengthy fight that could possibly lead to nowhere.\n\nIf that's all you gathered then I don't think you're absorbing the right information from this video...\n\nIf you would rather just do exactly what Mr. Lara did here, and end up losing all your money anyway, feel free to. But the reality is, if Mr. Lara had been more keen to assert his right to not answer if he has money in the car and denied them the right to search, he would've been far less likely to have had to experience this shitty interaction. These people are not your friends and asserting your rights limits your interactions with them and limits the opportunities they have to take advantage of you.\n\nI'm not saying this is foolproof or that this story is uplifting, I'm saying use your rights to your advantage and increase the odds that you interact with the police as little as possible and cover your ass in court.\n\nif it doesn't work, then you're in the exact same situation anyway...", "This is literally highway robbery.", "Why would real cartel members have any more drugs on their cash anyways?", "Maybe, but he should have absolutely no duty to be respectful to police officers to not forfeit his property", ">Actually all of those variables are extra.\n\nKnowing and being willing to stand up for your rights is not extra if you don't they will walk all over you. The cop knowing and respecting your rights is not extra. Some may back down when they see you know your rights, other will walk all over them. \n\nThe rights violation only helps after the fact, it doesn't stop them from hassling you and it doesn't stop them from forcing you to spend resources fighting them in court.", "Yeah add to that our fourth amendment rights to privacy which have dwindled in the internet age. \n\nI think this is why politicians push 2A as hard as they do. People don’t see the forest through the trees in that way.", "\"He's too close to the truck and also he's driving too slowly\" like what the hell is he supposed to do??? Pass directly through it to the other side?", ">in most states merely driving a strange speed on it's own is not cause for a legal traffic stop. it has to be in conjunction with other driving behaviors that can lead to articulable suspicion of driving under the influence, or being a major safety hazard on the road. \n\nI'm seriously concerned about this \"driving at a strange speed\" bullshit, as cops routinely drive under the limit, \"daring\" cars to pass them, then pulling cars over whether they do or don't. And pulling over people genuinely anxious, while leaving the \"very obviously unqualified\" people to carry on.\n\nParanoid mom of three under 10yo going the exact speed limit? SUSPICIOUS!!! Man trying to drive wife in labor to hospital at 10mph over? SUSPICIOUS!!!! Black person driving 5-10mph over or under, following traffic? SUSPICIOUS!!! Grandma going 30mph in a 65mph zone? \"Meh, she's fine.\" Nigerian uber guy driving unsafely and doesn't understand basic English, let alone our driving laws, FINE.", "It's easy to live in a fairly tale when the police are mostly targeting people who are different than you. \n\nThe people with stories about the abhorrent behavior or the justice system are too many degrees of separation away from the moderates who are able to take meaningful action. Has been for generations.", "Interesting article, but it's worth mentioning that it's specific to pre-paid cards, for now at least.\n\nI still don't think it's okay, but they're not reaching into people's banks through their debit card. Not yet anyway...", "Yeah, some kind of device to detect higher concentrations to do targetted stops would be better. Some cars are bad enough that you can smell it in traffic.", ">Most of the people we’re talking about deem themselves as perfect law abiding citizens where unfairness will never happen to them or rather they’ll never be like “those people”\n\nAgreed. To add my own thoughts: I think a lot of people see themselves as not having great lives, despite working really hard and putting in a lot of effort into being these perfect citizens and following all the rules. Combine that with the thought of someone else breaking these rules and not being punished for it? While they have to continue to toil so hard? Extremely unfair! All that negative energy and all those negative emotions get released upon those on the wrong side of justice.", "I remember I took some sort of Intro to Law Enforcement or Criminal Law or whatever class when I was younger and for one project everybody had to interview someone in law enforcement or armed services about their job and give a report/presentation on their day to day. It was to like showcase \"See there's all kinda jobs in this sector\" or whatever deal.\n\nAnd this one kid went on a ridealong with like his dad's buddy who was a patrolman. And the kid said the guy's main tactic was to follow people going exactly the speed limit, because that meant they were hiding something and therefore suspicious.", "Ask yourself why drug sniffing dogs have a far higher false positive rate than bomb sniffing dogs.\n\nSome of these dogs are known to have a 50/50 success rate.", "See [this TikTok video](https://vm.tiktok.com/ZM8nnrxeK/) where the person pulled over does literally everything right. Calmly and respectfully he refuses a search, then the cop tells him he needs to wait for a drug dog. The Supreme Court has ruled that it is unreasonable to force an individual to wait for a drug dog, and the guy pulled over seems aware of this, so he asks if he's being detained. Cop says yes, but does not give a reason for why. You might think this would be illegal, and you'd be correct, but that doesn't matter, because cops can be wrong under qualified immunity. Drug dog, obviously, \"flags the vehicle\", and now the cops have probable cause to search.\n\nWhat was he to do there, drive off? Now you're fleeing, and I guarantee they'll come up with something way worse.\n\nIf a cop wants to search your vehicle, they'll find a way.", "That's still not a win for holding onto it as cash.", "Cash is no longer king unless you're the ones ruling the people. Crypto is the way. Keep your money safe and secure from anyone especially the unlawful government", ">the First and/or Second Amendments\n\nare the puppet shows the authorities dangle in front of you to keep your attention focused, kind of the way you jangle keys in front of a toddler. Freedom porn", "chicken undercooked? get pulled over\n\nfish overcooked? also pulled over", "This is why you never ever consent to a search. Never.", "Not him, but it's true.\n\nhttps://fee.org/articles/how-a-young-joe-biden-became-the-architect-of-the-governments-asset-forfeiture-program/", "He didn’t. So is he guilty because other people do bad things?", "More tales of a dystopia reality.", "As I said. You're still fucked in the moment and have to fight it out in the court room.", "Police departments. They get a cut of the forfeited funds.", "Damn right. The Red Team / Blue Team BS is just a distraction while we get ground to dust.", "Jesus christ Frank, you weren't in the military, you were in nam in 1993 to open up a sweatshop.", "Pretty much the exact same thing happened to me. Rental had Oregon plates and I bet he though I weed on me or something while passing through the Midwest. Also got a warning for following to close, which is rich considering the rental had smart cruise control and literally would not follow too close", "Much appreciated. I'll get to reading", "Yup, if the guy in this video did that then they most likely would’ve never taken his money.", "The persecution of citizens at the hands of those who are charged to protect the same is becoming a pandemic, and it is being ignored and covered up by officials.\n\nThe same people who fought for and served our country are being left unserved and even willfully robbed and allowed to die, it is disgraceful.\n\nMeanwhile in our capital, elected officials spend the majority of their time fighting each other and pointing fingers, while doing little to improve the situation, they pit the citizens against each other.\n\nWonder why MIT thinks it will take until 2040 for this to collapse us, It seems to me we are already experiencing the event and it is quickly accelerating.", "Again: you're not slick. This fake niceness doesn't work on me. Nice try tho.", "I agree 100%. But some of these power tripping assholes will go outside the law for any number of bullshit reasons. Keeping it respectful and professional is still the best practice in my opinion.", "Kicked off by the Scottish king of England trying to tell the Church in Scotland to be more like the Church in England, which he wanted to be more like the Church in Rome", "Yet sometimes someone breaching a law or ordinance is what gets them caught for doing something far worse.\n\nSpeeding when they have a kidnapped child in the car. Rolling through a stop sign and they end up being drunk. Resisting arrest or fleeing because they were wanted for murder.\n\nPolice must have the ability to respond with those extreme measures. The problem is that if they do so incorrectly they must face consequences.\n\nThat doesn't happen.", "Good. One more person deradicalized from the bootlicking underbelly of America", "Crypto is the future…", "That’s just not true. Our Vice President was an absolutely vicious prosecutor and the President was a leader of the 90’s “tough on crime” movement among Democrats and is largely responsible for the Crime Bill.\n\nYou will find nobody who hates republicans more than me but the abuse of the incarcerated in this country has broad bipartisan support.", "The cop to know that is not a guaranteed check!", "Dude had a knife!! And he said the cop would have to kill him to get it. And the dude was like driving away from him, disrespectfully!", "This is by far the best presentation on not talking to the police I've ever watched, extremely engaging. Every day on this website there's always someone who says, \"Just be polite and answer the cops questions and they'll let you on your way.\" LOL, nope. You are under no obligation to answer where you're coming from, where you're going, why you were going so fast, etc. Keep your mouth shut.", "That's a sure fire way to end up getting arrested and getting your car towed over a speeding ticket. \n\nThere's stuff you're supposed to do as someone travelling on public roads, but you do not need to consent to a search and you dont need to incriminate yourself.", ">They beat you for protesting.\n>\n>They kill you for legally carrying a firearm. \n\nBoth of these only happen when they outnumber you. I encourage protesters to open carry (where legal) in large numbers. Cops are cowards, they wouldn't dare start a gunfight with protesters who have equal or greater firepower than themselves.\n\nThis is also why most democrats are idiots for pushing \"gun control\". It's a losing argument with more than half of voters, including the socialist left. Karl Marx himself said the working class should resist disarmament at all costs otherwise you'll have nothing to discourage fascist capitalists from enslaving you.", "Mate, arguing in the Reddit circle jerk like it's going to make any difference is fucking idiotic in the first place. We're not arguing with lawmakers here we're yelling into the echo chamber", "That's a bit abrasive enjoy the report. Goodbye.\n\nEdit: LOL", "Maybe, but they’ll still destroy your car, drag your ass to jail, charge you with crimes, make you spend a ton of money fighting the bogus charges, then spend another fortune and several years pressing the claim of improper conduct. That’s best case scenario if they don’t decide to beat the shit out of you or execute you during the stop.", "The one about the house is that you can’t bring a drug dog to property without a warrant because it’s considered an intrusive search of property.", "Yeah but it's the police doing that. They get overwhelming support from lawmakers and right leaning folks.", ">Punishing people for exercising their constitutional rights?\n\nWe saw attempts to villianize the 5th amendment during the Rittenhouse trial. Liberty don't mean shit here.", "Can I see the proof?? Like legitimate evidence of said things?", "Welcome to the club, fellas!", "\"I know you're just doing your job.\"\n\nI know you're only following orders.", "The value of something you own going to zero and having something you own taken against your will are not the same thing.", "Lawyers are Police Chief's family, and the court judge was the Police Chief's son-in-law.\n\n....probably", "It isn't constitutional.", "cops don't think they're part of the government, that would be communism", "If you ever get bored like into the circumstances involved in that precedent. Absolute shit show of a justice system we have.", "How fucking stupid do you have to be. To have all your money in a ziploc bag in your rental car. Wow", "Not most likely, there would have been zero chance.", "\"but men getting tortured by other mentally unstable men caused often times by their inhumane conditions, is funny.\"\n\ntry telling that to the lifers in Canadian prison. From what I've heard theyll murder your ass right quick if you start raping people. They even have a name for them but I can't remember it. And no it's not funny.", "Ah yes because weapons and money are illegal and they should get those off the street", "Nevada has some SERIOUS problems happening right now", ">And you would almost always lose your life savings \"investing\" into crypto. \n\nThis could not be more stupid of a statement.", "We call them pigs in the US.", "In the video their justification for confiscating the cash was because of a positive detection on the cash by the sniffer dog. Surely it becomes evidence in that case, but they immediately take it to the bank.", "Another advertisement for crypto currency! \n\nEveryone needs to be looking into transitioning part of their wealth into untouchable realms like crypto. You could go across the country with 90 billion on you and there’s nothing they could do. \n\nI wish I could reach out to this poor guy and go over some benefits of crypto v fiat. I hope he wins back x10 what they took from him in court.", "There was an update on this I saw the other day. He’s close to getting his money back, after getting a lawyer and going through that whole process. It’s still sad, he probably spent thousands just to get it back.", "“You can beat the rap but not the ride.”\n\nIf they don’t give you a reason but they detain you, DONT just leave. Sucks, but you gotta fight it in court. You cannot argue your way out of it, that’s not the job of the police.", "America is like a 4th world country man I swear.", "This is most anti american shit ever. I dont understand how this is even remotely legal.", "You along with everybody else preferred four or five other candidates before Biden. The man was polling damn near dead last in the primaries until miraculously everyone pulled out to throw their support behind him before super tuesday with the same \"he's the only one that can be trump\". If Democratic leadership really believes that the only way to stop the republican boogey man is the republican party of 40 years ago, then they would have no problem abolishing first past the post voting and enacting actual democratic reform. So either democrats don't actually believe the faux progressive rhetoric that they are selling, or they or so afraid of the working class making demands that they'll side with the Republicans.\n\n Biden can do a lot without any congressional approval, but instead he uses the bully pulpit to place every one of his monumental failures on progressives or the two Democrat fall guys. Unless something really extraordinary happens, Republicans will control the house, senate, presidency, and judiciary in 2022 and the democrats can go back to their posturing and hand wringing. Neo-liberals are not our friends.", ">Civil Asset Forfeiture is illegal if you interpret the US constitution in good faith.\n\nUnfortunately our last president really reinforced the need for some protections against bad faith political parties. And it needs to happen in under 6 months.", "We seem to be experiencing the same thing that caused the civil war, in my opinion, taxation without representation.", "Uh, they do, which is why it’s legal in my state.", "These are not \"corrupt cops\" -- this is just normal police having a normal one.", "You're not wrong, but they are also so prolific enough that they are a significant voting bloc on both sides.", "And not nearly enough stories of \"good\" cops stopping the bad ones", "that’s not how it works. they have time to get the dog on scene as long as the stop doesn’t exceed the length of a normal stop. \n\nsource: am lawyer", "citation needed", "Yeah, in another thread I was in I kept saying you should never answer questions from the police unless legally required to do so and this guy kept coming in saying \"Things always go better for you if you're friendly and answer their questions.\" Bulllllllshit", "Never consent to search or admit you have money in the car. Cops are not on our side.\n\nEspecially if you're in a rental the last renter could have left blow or pot all over that car.", "Civil forfeiture is a legal con where it is up to you to prove you are not doing anything illegal. And in most cases it costs more money to legally fight to get your belongings back. Essentially, you are guilty until you prove your innocence at a pricey cost.", "As if cops know the law, much less respect it.", "Defending your rights with anything other than money will have you labeled and punished as a criminal and/or terrorist.", "Yeah, they can't arrest you but I think they can hold you temporarily. Arrest comes with paperwork and legal stuff. I think temporary detainment is something different. Please correct me if I'm wrong.", "Fuck that piece of shit dog for lying, too. I know reddit loves dogs so you'll downvote me, but I'll demand that each downvote mean you agree it was a bitch for doing that. \n\nThe pigs might have found other ways to steal the money, but at least the dog could have been honest and made it harder.", "For those of you playing along at home, this is why you NEVER CONSENT TO A SEARCH! It’s also why you NEVER ANSWER POLICE QUESTIONS! He could’ve told the cop to literally fuck off and avoided this whole mess.", "Know your rights. NEVER consent to a search of your vehicle. NEVER say anything unless required by law. Make the cops do their jobs. \n\n\n[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE)", "\"I am pro police but just don't talk to them, don't cooperate or do anything to help them because they don't have good intentions.\"", "You should look up how percentages work", "Can I love it enough to want to knock it down and rebuild it?", "So glad I left that state...", "Dude I don't know what to tell you. I consider myself a luddite, but I've adapted crypto and I'm quite happy with my returns. We are entering hyperinflationary times at least for the next 3 years. I wish your finances the best. I suggest you read up on Bank Bail in's. The Soviet trained economist Biden put up to be the comptroller of the treasury she wants that.", "In my county, PD and Sheriff used to split traffic fine money. PD had a shit fit because they felt that the revenue they generated far surpassed what the SO did, so they changed the rules and now keep all the traffic revenue. \n\nSince then Sheriff's basically stopped doing traffic. You have to do something ridiculously outrageous to be stopped by the SO now.", "So, if I am understanding this correctly, the ruling was not that you do not have to wait exactly. The ruling was that anything found after the unconstitutional search was inadmissible in court. Just...don't drive off. Don't be the smart ass civilian lawyer talking about \"YoU CaN't mAkE mE wAiT\". Eat it, let them find what they find, and get a lawyer after. That is the only protection this ruling offers. Anything else is almost a guaranteed ass beating, and even if you win your case you can't reverse an ass beating. \n\nSeperately, probable cause varies from state to state, but if you get pulled over just assume they have it and do what they say. You will not talk your way out of it. I don't care how smooth you think you are, you will absolutely not have the required speech level to get a cop to not do whatever they want to do. Like you said, all that'll do is make a bigger headache to deal with. Best case scenario, instead of just a search now you're dealing with resisting arrest, endangering an officer, reckless driving, pretty much whatever they want to charge you with. Just shut up and call a lawyer the first chance you get.", "You own a knife, you're probably a murderer. You should be thrown in jail just in case.", "The ~~SCOTUS~~ Tenth Circuit Court of Appeals has already ruled that following the law too closely is reasonable suspicion for pulling you over and being nervous is probable cause for a search.\n\nA woman was pulled over near the southern border because she had her hands at 10 and 2, was driving the speed limit, and had acne. She was nervous when the cop interacted with her, so he searched her truck and found a small amount of weed.\n\nThe ~~SCOTUS~~ Tenth Circuit essentially said, \"well, sure, none of those things is illegal, but if you assume she was a meth trafficker, then having acne, following the law, and being nervous when a cop accuses you of drug smuggling sure seems suspicious and justifies a search!\"\n\nSuch bullshit.", "I like your friend", "As a Canadian I was driving down I95 on a road trip with an ex-girlfriend and her family. I was driving a mini van and going about 5mph over the limit. Meanwhile I was getting buzzed by everyone else on the I95 into Chicago. Most giving me \"fuck you\" looks as they blazed by me. It was fucking traumatic", "Cop, probably: \"I'll give you a fucking seizure\"", "unspoken rule, but you can't just leave us hanging without dropping a link man, that's just internet courtesy. Is [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kEpZWGgJks&ab_channel=LastWeekTonight) it?", "You should treat any interaction with a cop as if that cop is a criminal. No matter how friendly they might seem. Be polite but guarded, and exercise your rights.\n\nhttps://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/stopped-by-police/", "Ever hear about what the CIA was doing to fund their operations? Iran Contra", "Yeah you definitely sniff glue. Have a good night.", "Really? So you think that cop was fine? Just following that awful law? Even though he knows he's in the wrong? Nah bruh. He could've ignored that law and been a good cop. But I'm not sure such a thing exist.", "In NYC I passed a cop who brake checked me while he was doing 40 on the highway, he pulled me over and I got a $500 ticket, and 8 points on my license. \n\nThe ticket said i did 120, in my Lexus that's limited to 110 mph. Either you die doing 55 or pay the fine.", "time to flip tables Jesus style", "I'm 100% in agreement with your point but... if your money burns in a fire you may actually be able to get it back. https://bep.gov/services/currencyredemption.html\n\nOf course if it gets stolen or \"lost\" you're fucked.", "They can’t detain you in order to GET probable cause. So they can’t stop you, then call in the dogs for cause. But they can stop you because they think you’re impaired, then call the dogs in to confirm this. I say confirm because no dog squad ever has “denied” it. Evidence gathered by a cop will ONLY be used to hurt you, never to help you.", "Best comment in the thread lol the money was asking for it", "Saying \"Corrupt\" is redundant.", "So the department is getting commissions from the US government for any money or property they can find any possible legal justification for stealing/taking/seizing.\n\nNow how in the world could there be corruption in a system like that? MFers will cheat over a dollar scratcher ticket you think they won't cheat for 70k???", "One more reason why we need Bitcoin. I fee super bad for this guy, especially as a fellow vet.", "I’ll never be able to read a story like the OP and not hear in my head “tenny mucho mucho deniro in su trucky-trailer.”", "https://abc7ny.com/bank-account-statement-stolen-money-chase/8938080/\n\n\nBanks aren't exactly perfect with savings either.", "I...this is awkward...rebuilding is generally frowned upon around these parts. We haven't amended the constitution in like 40 years", "Nice state. Bit of a \"fuck you, I got mine\" since more people live under puritanical, antiquated laws regarding cannabis than not though", "He can catch these hands. (Jk that’s how you die)", "This ass clown thought he had all this drug money and shit…. Wow….", "Makes me think of [of this story](https://kutv.com/news/nation-world/federal-court-police-dont-have-to-pay-for-damage-after-swat-team-destroys-mans-home) where they destroyed a guy's house to get a shoplifter...", "“Say no to drugs”. \n\nThanks, Nancy Regan.", "Don't forget the 4th. RIP privacy.", "And apparently arguing with an idiot, which takes a lot for me to admit. \n\n\n\"Your cash does not have rights!\" So when this chick gets mugged and karens to the police they should go, \"well your purse didn't have rights, no crime committed\" \n\n\nDunno, maybe then she would be like, \"well, don't I have a right not to have MY purse stolen?\"", "“Under the rights afforded to me by the 4th, 5th, 6th, and 14th amendments to the Constitution of the United States of America, I am declining to answer.”\n\nThis is the only sentence you should EVER say to a LEO if the are requesting anything probative and you have not yet consulted with legal council.\n\nEdit: using phrases such as “I am sorry but I do not answer questions without my lawyer present” can be misconstrued in the court of law if you then respond to a different question posed by the officer.", "It's dumb that normal citizens can be harshly punished when they break the law without realizing but when a cop breaks the law in performance of their duty they aren't usually. \n\nViolating the law should carry bigger consequences when your job is to enforce it.", "Yeah he is good shit lol.\n\nVery fun to go hunting with.", "Yo I’m down for a right and left wing team-up where we roll up and beat all the rich bad guys trying to put us against eachother.", "People are terrified of change. Then you have the patriotic lot that go \"America Numba 1, Numba 1, US Dollar Numba 1, Numba 1\". \n\nMy two cents is buy BTC, ETH and precious metals. Get out of the banks, Biden is making the printer go BrrrRrrRRR. Its the only way he can implement Modern Monetary Theory on the US.", "In many states now, odor alone is not enough for probable cause.", "I can’t understand how we haven’t fixed this yet.", "Well, if it isn't the most progressive president in U.S. history!", "I wish it was a requirement that the prosecution be ready to get the trial underway at arraignment. That's what a speedy trial should be.", "If it sounds unconstitutional, that's because it is. But the \"official\" perspective is that the money is committing a crime by being involved in illegal transactions, and because it isn't a citizen/human/etc. there is no legal protection for it against being indefinitely detained. If that sounds stupid, that's because it is.", "“I smell weed”", "Hazardbeard covered most of it. \n\nIts almost like PCM might have a point. There are left authoritarians that love them some prison rape like our VP. There are also Lib right leaning politicians that talk a good game on criminal justice reform, not much in action, but the lib left people don't get much action either.", "Nah, a very significant portion of the white middle class liberal still blindly worries about \"crime\" and \"safety\" and other stuff that they will support and want to make sure their reps will \"do something about\".", "I doubt he was cited for just speed but we're only hearing it from one redditor's perspective 🙃", "What a fucking scumbag for pulling this shit. Typical Hollywood scumbag. Feel so bad for Halyna’s family.", "He received his money back + interest on it. Still not an excuse for what happened to him though. He has a lawsuit that continues to be pending https://thisisreno.com/2021/12/lawsuit-filed-after-nhp-confiscates-mans-life-savings-during-traffic-stop/", "Police steal more in civil asset forfeiture each year than all burglary in the US combined.", "Most importantly - I make more off of my monthly APR returns for holding ETH or other cryptos than I made in 5 years holding my money in a bank. It’s just free money left on the table lost to inflation.", "This is why you don't talk to the police, you don't tell them ANYTHING unless legally required. You don't consent to a warrantless search. You don't assist the police in any way not legally required of you.", "Better than being a right wing nut job.", "Exactly. If that was a trial lawyer and her surgeon husband the chance of this money being taken is very remote.", "Civil asset forfiture is the most blatantly unjust thing in America right now, it's absolutely crazy that people aren't aware of it.", "Bitcoin", "Right, all those cases where a cop says you're free to go and they shoot you as you're leaving. There's so many of them I can't even think of a single good example to choose from", "Bitcoin fixes this", "> This is also why most democrats are idiots for pushing \"gun control\".\n\nAre you saying it's the democrats that support police brutality and corrupt police? Because I'm pretty sure it's not republicans saying \"defund the police\"", ">>I want to put the dog on the currency\n \n Meanwhile, currency is known to have trace amounts of drugs like cocaine on it.", ">if they don't already have enough \"reasonable suspicion\"\n\nWhich they could just say 'there was an odor of marijuana when i approached the car'.", "\\>Not a left/right thing\n\nUmmmmm, the right is literally the people who are proponents of the oligarchy and police.", "People get shot by cops for less. They would take it as fleeing.", "Police state", "I've been in a similar situation. I always watch my rear view mirror, and as soon as I notice a cop, I take the next turn off the street or freeway.\n\nI don't always do that, but I can tell when a cop is setting up for that weird pinning maneuver where they try to drive slower than traffic in a passing lane in your blind spot.\n\nI haven't always been so lucky. Once I came up to a red light next to a cop. Light turned green and the cop was just waiting for me to go so he could pull me over. He made up his mind before I even stopped at the light, even though I didn't do anything wrong.\n\nCops aren't all bad though. Also got pulled over doing doughnuts at 3am on an empty street... haha. Cop just said \"don't do it again\"... and I never did it again.\n\nMoral of the story, if you see a cop in front or behind you in light traffic. Navigate to the nearest parking lot.", "And people have the audacity to question why someone with nothing to hide would still refuse to allow police to search their vehicle. The cops can openly admit that they have no evidence of any wrongdoing, on camera, and still seize your possessions.", "At the end of the day, the money is still out of your account and you're up shit creek without a paddle. Whether banks do their stealing in broad daylight or through \"technically legal\" means (it's not legal, but the DOJ doesn't enforce them), the man would still have his money stolen. I'm not saying don't put your money in banks, in fact, you're stupid if you don't, but saying banks never steal money is wishful thinking nonsense.\n\n When I say it's a carve out, I'm saying it's a perfectly meaningless distinction that only serves to obscure a very real and tangible issue.", "Okay, so what - abolish cops then?", "Crypto fixes this, and don’t tell me it doesn’t. And with private crypto, they would never have known he had it in the first place.", "I’m putting out a BOLO on 50 grand USD that tried to mug me.", "Considering the federal government creates the money and its endorsement is what gives the money value, it seems odd to not trust the FDIC while still trusting that your cash has value.", "Every job that wasn't for the government I've ever had wouldn't give time off for voting.\n\nAlso been working since the 90s.", "Yeah but you have to ask WHAT exactly was he doing with $90,000 in cash. I mean who just drives around with $80,000 like that. $70,000 is a lot of money. Do you know how much cocaine you could buy with $60,000?\n\nSorry sir, we're being forced by a judge to return your $45,000.", "There could be a moral reason. For example, they take your money and lend it to other people for 300% more interest than they give you.\n\nI still think it's silly though. That money is depreciating faster and faster by not being invested. IMO the only cash sitting in a savings/checking should be an emergency fund, or a fund for a large expense < 5 years out", "Well?", "Anyone can be an assholes. But so can I, I still respect them because of the purpose of protection. Hope shit gets better.", "https://youtu.be/51t1OsPSdBc", "Now that is a hunting trip I'd like to see...\n\n\"Is that a herd of deer over there?\"\n\nRatatatatatatat tatatata tatatata tatatata\n\n\"Not anymore\"\n\nThrow in some tracer rounds and they'll be partly fried.", "Well, you never know as police like to abuse their power so I didn’t want to say with absolute certainty as there’s always a small percentage that it could’ve still happened. Even a 5% chance is enough to say that it’d most likely not have happened.", "Sue the F out of the officer and Nevads", "Harry Reid needs more facial reconstructive surgery…Bastards", "That's fine but most people won't take gold as a currency. I can't pay for groceries or my electrical bill with gold... \n\nCrypto is nice on paper but when it comes to actually living off of it you always end up in a jam when it comes time to convert crypto to fiat.", "Interest will be based on at least inflation or some similar metric. \n\nBut beyond getting your money back with interest, you will typically also be paid damages.", "I would say even that is too combative. You don't need to incriminate yourself or consent to a search but in all likelihood you committed a traffic offense and throwing out libertarian talking points is likely to get you a ticket where as being less argumentative might get you a warning.\n\nSpecifically in regards to parroting Am I free to go?", "Not the way I intended it, certainly. I was simply refuting your assertion that people don’t act to fix dumb pot laws. We do. \nIt will reach more and more states in time, no question.\nIt’s funny to see how little difference it makes to daily life. Like, none. Now there are some pot stores, with rules much like the liquor stores. People who like pot go there. That’s about it.", "Your taking food out of my kids mouth!!! Owed 18k in back child support....", "That's why we need Bitcoin.", "Found a [pic](https://image.shutterstock.com/z/stock-photo-digital-illustration-of-a-little-cartoonish-sexy-corn-1115528003.jpg)", "Absolutely correct my friend. My friend was a part owner of a HUGE entertainment restaurant in MA and the name is Kow-loon. On a special day he drove home with 60k cash on him and he got pulled over and had the money seized. Even though he prove who he is, where the money comes from, 3 years later, his money is still “stuck”… and on the report, it said officers had seized 40k usd. So there you go.", "\n>Would you say that if drug money was paying for a drug lord candidate? \n\nLike Reagan?", "Just so you know, the .08 is when they HAVE to issue you a dui. They can issue you a DUI for any alcohol on your breath if they deem you are too intoxicated.", "> memory got clouded by the very real rioting an looting during this period\n\nThis was deliberate on the part of Conservative media. The \"very real looting\" was wildly blown out of proportion.\n\nhttps://acleddata.com/2021/05/25/a-year-of-racial-justice-protests-key-trends-in-demonstrations-supporting-the-blm-movement/\n\n> Approximately 94% of all pro-BLM demonstrations have been peaceful, with 6% involving reports of violence, clashes with police, vandalism, looting, or other destructive activity.\n\n\nSo only 6% of protests had any violence reported. Note that this doesn't mean 6% of protestors were violent, it means that at 6% of the protests someone was violent.\n\nIn addition, the violence in the 6% includes violence Initiated by cops, violence done by right wing terrorists and things like toppling statues or burning tires.\n\n> In the remaining 6%, it is not clear who instigated the violent or destructive activity. While some cases of violence or looting have been provoked by demonstrators, other events have escalated as a result of aggressive government action, intervention from right-wing groups or individual assailants, and car-ramming attacks.\n\nContrast this with right wingers:\n\n> In contrast, demonstrations involving right-wing militias or militant social movements have turned violent or destructive over twice as often, or nearly 14% of the time.\n\n[What's more, law enforcement deliberately instigated violence at protests](https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/09/04/us/blm-protests-peaceful-report-trnd/index.html)\n\n> Prior to the deployment, over 83% of demonstrations in Oregon were non-violent. Post-deployment, the percentage of violent demonstrations has risen from under 17% to over 42%, suggesting that the federal response has only aggravated unrest.", "Maybe using really round numbers will help you understand why both more whites are killed by police and why a black person is more likely to be killed than a white person:\n\nsuppose there is a town of 100,000 people\n\n80,000 are white (80%)\n\n20,000 are black (20%)\n\nevery year 10 people are killed by the police.\n\n6 of the people killed by police are white (60%)\n\n4 of the people killed by police are black (40%)\n\nWe can see that more white people are killed by police than black people\n\n&#x200B;\n\nBUT\n\nIf you are black then you are more likely to get killed by police in this town than you are if you are white. Do you see this, now?\n\nA black person has a 4 in 20,000 chance of being killed (0.02%)\n\nA white person has a 6 in 80,000 chance of being killed (0.0075%)\n\nA black person is 2.7 times more likely to be killed by police in this town.", "WTF man", ">Lara admitted he had cash. A lot of it.\n\"I don't trust banks, so I keep my own money,\" Lara responded when asked why. He then gave the officer permission to search his car.\n\nNEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER DO THIS", "Nothing means anything anymore", "I always love this [article](https://www.bemidjipioneer.com/news/4255243-minnesota-trooper-declared-unreliable-court-witness). This trooper harrassed the shit out of my hometown and surrounding area way back when I was in high school in the late 90s. She even had a nickname, \"Superbitch\" oh and in 2020 she made $190k.", "Blue icons?", "Never, never, never, NEVER talk to then police.\n\n#NEVER TALK TO THE POLICE.\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE", "And don't forget cops can just pull you over and lie about it.\n\nAnd then search you illegally and lie about why they believed they had probable cause. \n\nAnd there is generally no recourse or punishment.", "The most odd thing here is that the victim thinks his combat veteran status protects him from greedy bastards.", "Yes, very good point and something we should all remember. Even if you're a lefty, not all Democrats are the same. Policies matter, and there are people with troubling records in both parties. That doesn't mean the parties are the same, but it does mean you can't just see a D next to a person's name and conclude that you know their beliefs and backgrounds.", "8 times in the back, the then pig paused, took careful aim, and plugged him in the skull for good measure.", "It does matter. I'm mad the cops took it, but I don't feel bad for someone losing $90k when they're that careless about it.", "Rule #1: NEVER allow a cop to search your shit. Sit there until they bring a warrant or give up and let you go.", "Clearly he didn't. Hence the term 'most people', not 'all people'. \n\nThe law exists not due to some vacuous whim from law enforcement. They are crafted based on data and evidence on how illegal trade is conducted.\n\nFor example, mass deposits of cash less than 10,000 likely triggers an IRS audit and/or seizure due to the nature of structuring used as a means to avoid the bank filing a suspicious activity report.", "You are allowed to issue curfews during states of emergency which I think all the places that issue curfews did", ">The Soviet trained economist Biden put up to be the comptroller of the treasury she wants that.\n\nHAHAHHAHAHA FUCKING DOPE", "Not per capita, no.", "Yea it’s crazy , cops can do no wrong with some people. Straight up murder a dude on camera and people will defend it", "I detect the presence of drugs. I will be calling a K-9 unit to inspect your vehicle. The dog hit on your trunk. I now have probable cause to search the vehicle and all its contents.", "A large amount of democrats, aka the neoliberal \"centrists\" do. Look at our fucking president and vice president. They both openly supported racist and corrupt police during their careers.\n\nOnly the progressives and socialists understand and want to fix police brutality, racism, and corruption.", "We all know it's pretty much illegal to carry that much cash on you no matter who you are. There's also a stupid tax, the stupider you are the more you pay. 87 grand in cash? Dummy...", "Its like, even if it only increases your odds of not being completely fucked over by 1%, you should do it anyway. \n\nIf someone gave me a 1% chance to not have my assets taken illegally where they would've otherwise, and all it took was remembering that I can say \"No\" to a search, I take those odds over the alternative 100% of the time.", "What mattered most was being able to expand westward by warring with the natives, and the British weren't allowing it. Britain didn't want to get sucked into committing troops to another war with the natives if expansion efforts devolved. \n \nIn fact, the taxes that they imposed were to help pay for the recent French and Indian War, which had cost a lot of money. \nBy the time \"No taxation without representation!\" was ever mentioned, the road to revolution/rebellion was already well on its way.", "r/thirdsub", "Sounds like a lawsuit. Why didn't you follow up on that?", "People largely overstate how often that happens. There's such a vast amount of prisons and jails, so it's really a roll of the dice. \n \n Also really sad to see people wish that on people. \n \nLots of reform needed on all fronts.", "No worries! Thank you for researching that, it's much appreciated.", "Can I assume you took this to court?", "Hijacking this comment. John Oliver did an episode in this a few years ago, it’s nuts!!\n\n[Last week tonight](https://youtu.be/3kEpZWGgJks)", "Bet they really only mean physical force rape. Probably don't do much for the ones that use economic force to enable rape. You know the ones that get hooked on a little chemical assistance to get through the boredom of canada jail. Then need to pay the bill's, by doing the bills.", "Your argument is that the man in this video is lucky?", ">I am very right wing politically, but fuck cops, our justice/legal system, and our government.\n\nLet's work together based on this premise and not let ourselves get distracted by the fake outrage stories that come up whose only purpose is to push us further into our corners.\n\nMaybe we can work on something that would benefit all of us, such as reforming the first past the post voting systems which just cause us to vote for \"anyone but their guy\" which allows the crackpots and crooks to get into office. Bans on gerrymandering which just disenfranchise votors to the benefit of the parties. And a requirement to place all assets except primary/vacation home into a blind trust?", "I mean I 100% believe the police escalated situations with unnecessary violence but usually it’s a good idea to come prepared for worst case scenarios instead of being underprepared.", "John oliver did a part on Civil Asset Forfeiture on october 5th 2014, so this was still going on during Obama's presidency.", "You will never make me believe that all cops arent bad. This shit right here proves it. Fuck cops they just crooks with badges.", "FUCK PIGS", "Here’s where reddit pretends to care about veterans lmao.", "But they don't lend your money to other people. Banks create new money for that. There is zero reason not to use the banking system as any alternative is far worse.", "I have watched this game run full circle. when I was a kid Nixon declared war on drugs, in 1985 Nancy and Ronald Reagan triple down on the stupidity. Then Hollywood jumped in and every other movie had to have some drug dealing bad guy that was responsible for all the evils of the planet. Finally Congress got involved and added so many laws and penalties with the support of a not very bright public voter.", "You mean kicked off by the Scots trying to control the Scots, right?\n\nJames VI and I was Scottish, and was the King of Scotland before becoming also the King of England and Ireland in 1603. Charles I, his son, was the King of England, Scotland and Ireland during the Bishops Wars.\n\nSo yeah, people love to blame England for everything that happened in the UK but this one I think is fair to blame on the Scots.", "Dude in under 36 hours for 0.01% fee I have my crypto converted to USD sent to my bank. The only reason BTC is rising is due to hyperinflation. When you see a 10% increase in BTC long term, just understand the money you had in the bank decreased by 10%. Why do you think the wealthy backers of the Globalist Democrats/Republicans are buying farm land, mines and property now and are moving their assets out of the banks?", "No, give them time to properly gerrymander the state legislatures and they'll start getting them done that way.", "So it’s ok that they do this to everyone cause “most” of the bad guys do it", "> nobody should have their money stolen by the police\n\nThe people who currently support that sort of behavior, absolutely should. As long as it's only happening to the 'others' they're fine with it.", "The idea is \"that amendment only protects criminals, I'm a good guy, I'll never need it\". It's not right, it may even be fabricated by the people looking to exploit the law, but that's the kind of thought process.", "> Its the only socially acceptable torture left in our society.\n\nYou forgot \"looks / sounds middle eastern\"", "To add onto that, invoke your 5th amendment state and shut the fuck up. Don't talk, don't argue, don't engage. You don't speak to anyone other than an attorney and the attorney speaks to the police, end of story. The cops aren't your friends, they aren't there to help you, they can and will lie to you. You invoke the 5th, you do not give consent to search your vehicle (or home) without a warrant, and that's it.\n\nMy father was a sherriff's deputy for 30+ years, he had that conversation with me and each of my sisters. All the people I've known who had parents in the police have had a similar conversation with their parents.", "Playing music too loud? Right to jail, right away.", "I don’t understand the distrust of banks…they are much more likely to not screw you over on legit deposits (up to $250k because of FDIC). I will never travel with large sums of cash on my person because of such stories as this.", "Oddly, as a flesh person, there are in fact limits to my campaign contributions.", "I’m sorry I tampered with your delicate sensibilities. What I’m not sorry for is calling you out on trying to whitewash history and give cover to a president responsible for the misery of millions of people foreign and domestic. It’s not trump. Read a book and grow a pair.", "Would answering \"I don't know\" when asked how fast you were going be potentially abusable for them? Sounds like they can go off that and claim you were speeding or being distracted while driving, then use that as an excuse to push for something.", "Enjoy the report 🤣🤣 wow dude", "This is a bullshit stop. Dont talk to the police. Dont consent to searches.", "Yeah well wait and see. We have lot of Senators and Congressmen who sold their black cherry to the Fed and will vote to ban BTC in the US. The thing they need to understand it would be equivalent to banning email in the 1990's. Sure you can do it, but your country will become a backwater, in BTC case a financial backwater.", "Some serious pig shit", "Nice... Looks like a video for a fundraiser... sneaky sneaky", "Three lessons: \nDon’t answer questions from the police beyond complying with orders\nDon’t carry large amounts of cash\nDon’t kid yourself that you live in a free country", "Fucking thugs", "If America had a legitimate Department of Justice they would put these cops in prison for long sentences.", "Reading comprehension before knee jerk reaction is what this country needs.", "I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again:\n\nPeople always talk about treating protesters, suspects, or prisoners with respect, but then love when something like this happens, whether it’s a protester they don’t like, or extrajudicial punishment against someone like a rapist being beaten by a civilian/police/other prisoners.\n\nIf you have fantasies about violence, just say it. Stop being two-faced and claiming you want peaceful handing of situations but then laughing, condoning, or joking about violence against people you don’t like.", "The greatest threat to our constitutional rights are the rich bastards that own and control everything. The cops are just their dogs.", "I haven’t voted partisan since I was old enough to vote. Partisanship to far one way or the other is bad", "He literally had the bank receipts on him that shows that it was his money.", "Horseshoe theory", "Just “acting suspiciously” is enough probably cause for them lol they’re gonna get in whether you like it or not", "Seizure requires only probable cause. That's constitutional.", "The problem is that there obviously isn’t enough drug money floating around to satisfy the appetite of the police.", "But technically their radar has a 7mph potential for error. So just say you were driving the speed limit", "Jesus Christ I take that back. You’re actually a retard", "Right you are Hedy.", "Unless you include Pelosi, Clinton, Biden... in your definition of Right, you might need to check into things a bit. \n\nPelosi's husband sure has a great track record of making big bank off those Oligarchs.", "Happened to me on a cross-country trip in 2002. Pulled over in middle of no-where Kansas in February. Was pulled over for \"driving suspiciously\" when I was going the speed limit. Cop's direct quote, \"no one drives the speed limit out here.\" My car was packed full since it was a long trip. Cop asked me if he could search my car. I knew enough to say no. He said that refusal to search was \"probable cause\" enough to allow him to search it. \n\nHe made me exit the car and refused to allow me to get my jacket. It was 20 degrees outside. He said I could go wait in the back of his car. No fucking way. So I stood on the side of the road for about 30 minutes while this guy pulled everything out of my car and ransacked my belongings. When he found nothing, he called in the K9 unit. Took another 20 minutes for the K9 unit to arrive. Does a walk around, no triggers. First cop tells the K9 unit to do another walk around cause he thinks the dog found something. K9 unit walks around again, no triggers. \n\nFirst cop then says he's sure I have drugs in the car. This fucking guy actually got on his back and crawled under the front of my car. Finally the K9 unit told the first officer there was nothing and he was leaving. After about 75 minutes of freezing my ass off in a fucking field I was told I could go. They left all my stuff strewn about on the road. I asked if he was going to put my stuff back in my car and this psycho fuck laughs and says it's not his stuff so it's not his problem. Then he went back and watched me for 15 minutes pack all my stuff up back into my car.\n\nWhen I finally drove off this guy followed me for 5 miles before turning around and going in the other direction.", "Guilty until proven innocent, and even then, still guilty. That's the mindset.\n\nTo be fair, I think it's totally fine for people to have opinions on cases and to think Rittenhouse is a piece of shit for other things we know about him. Having a personal opinion is different from calling for a less just justice system. I think it's okay for people to vent, and to even personally hate somebody if that's how they feel. But when it comes to running the country, we have to give everybody the same rights when they're at trial.", "Sometimes the cops just shoot you with pepper balls for being on the front porch or your own home during a curfew.", "> 90k isn't that much \n\nYes, it is. 2/3 of Americans have less than $1000 in savings. 90k isn’t much? foh", "4th and 5th amendments folks. Never answer questions and never consent to a search FUCKING EVER! Answering questions will not make the process easier on you and will, in fact, most likely fuck you over, possibly for life. A cops only job is to arrest you or ticket you to generate revenue and feed the prison industrial complex. They are not required by any means to protect you and are insentivised fuck you over as hard as possible legally and often physically. Tooooons of cops have been caught planting things in people's cars and pockets and tooooons more continue to plant shit on people. Giving consent to search will not help you in anyway no matter what the cop says. Repeat this mantra to yourselves as you are likely to have to use it someday, \"I do not answer question, I do not consent to searches\". If they ask for your ID you are not required to show it to them unless you have committed a crime NO MATTER WHAT STATE YOU ARE IN. Stop and ID state still require reasonable articulable suspicion for a cop to have the right to ID you. If you are a passenger in a car that is pulled over for an infraction you do not have to ID as you are not the subject of the investigation. If cops come to your house don't answer the door, if they have a warrant they'll come in through your living room wall or some shit, they won't knock. If for some silly reason you feel compelled to speak to them (fucking don't ever) step outside of your house and lock the door.", "Is this a copypasta I'm not familiar with?", "There's nothing illegal or wrong (aside from financially wrong) with doing that, but those are shitty comparisons.", ">Yeah if he is asking he doesn't have probable cause. \n\nIf you consent you are in effect waiving your right to privacy. Your consent helps them abuse your rights and makes it harder for you to have your property returned. You can't challenge the search on 4A grounds if you consent, so even if their probable cause it's later determined faulty, that can't help you. Never consent to a search.", "There's nothing wrong with it, or there shouldn't be. It's at risk of being stolen, but there's nothing special about $10k that makes it a particularly bad idea.", "Oh well, put that shit in a bank or the market like a normal person", "Fact", "Fuck the police", "Ugh, you're right. I looked it up and the US police started mainly due to slavery. TIL.", "I firmly believe that abolishing civil asset forfeiture is one of the only things that could pass the constitutional amendment process.", "The entirety of the 2008 financial crisis is reason enough... are you trolling or being serious?", "There’s a name for this it’s called Horseshoe theory. People on both sides recognize the issues but our rich corporate overlords keeps us squabbling over minor differences which keeps anything from changing", "The 4th Amendment still applies as it does to all property. The seizure requires probably cause, the the permanent deprivation requires proof by a preponderance of evidence.", "house fires, natural disasters\n\nshit happens", "This bitch needs a 2x4 to the face.", "nah broseidon I was just talkin about another weed story with my bro u/Jakexx360", "FoC is ALWAYS the worst option. If you and the other parent can come to an agreement together and cut out the state that is always the better choice", "Or you could keep it in a bank like a fucking normal adult instead of a speculative unregulated currency that’s subject to rapid price swings on a weekly basis.", "And then, imagine if the driver was black….. going under the speed limit while black etc……", "\"I know, try and stop us, bitchboi. Do it! I dare ya.\"\n\n-The people in charge", "Who is going to arrest them? Other cops? Thin blue line says \"laws for thee, not for me\".", "It's ok for a variety of reasons: most people don't have mountains of cash. Most people don't structure their cash deposits. Most people have a bank account.", "and good fucking luck having a life left to pick up off the floor by the time you've cleared your name.", "She is literally a Soviet Trained PHD in economics. Her PhD thesis was titled: \"Karl Marx's Economic Analysis and the Theory of Revolution in The Capital\"\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saule_Omarova", "I say it does matter. It's the idea of 'if they did this to a veteran, then they'll do it to you as well'.", "I think it's understandable why the cops were suspicious of a man driving with a load of money in his car. It's obvious some form of investigation would be done to validate it's not stolen money or money made from illegal activities like selling drugs.", "At the very least, there should be a hard time limit (like 3 weeks) and if they can't begin the trial by that time, bail is automatically set to $0.", "Gun control being a left wing issue is also just a weird American peculiarity. There's nothing inherently left or right wing about firearms. It's just one of those topics where 51% of our target voting block is interested in that so therefore we define ourselves by that topic to get those votes.\n\nConsider the topics of Abortion, and firearms. They literally have nothing to do with each other, yet somehow these topics are somehow supposed to fit neatly divided into a bipolar scale?", "What was the intent of the act? Is it being used as intended? Is there abuse of the act? Clearly this is abuse and not the intention of the act.", "If you don't include those people as right wing then you're just using right/left to mean republican/democrat and clearly have zero understanding of politics beyond what you're fed by the tv lol.", "This is fucking ridiculous. I’d be livid. Even just getting pulled over for…. Driving too safely? Wtf", "For all the shit Americans talk about overthrowing corrupt governments, this is how 99% of them are.\n\nSit there are get robbed while going \"please don't take my stuff.\"", "Cops are robbers!", "Cool until the market fluctuates and suddenly your balance takes a dump. I'm not going to keep my money in a form that can be impacted by an Elon Musk tweet. I have actual grown up responsibilities and my bank isn't gonna let me slide on my mortgage because \"some whale had paper hands\"", "Floyd Mayweather and Jeff Bezos aren’t holding their entire life savings in cash, so yes it would be weird.", "His first mistake was telling the cops he had it. Be nice and respectful but for fuck sake don't tell them shit. They're not your friend or there to help you out.", "> I thought the US had a similar rule.\n\nFor the entire 49 months that I have been raising my foster daughters, every time I go into court, the judge restates that our state law \"requires that the termination, reunification or adoption process must be completed within 12 months\". And then they just ignore the fact that is has been 49 months so far and move on with postponing for another 98 days.", "Those pigs should still rot in prison for this.", "Have been", "You can also be kicked off government assistance. There's stories of grandmas getting kicked out of government funded homes because their grandkids got caught at school with marijuana.\n\nAmerica's drug laws are the harshest laws we have.", "> Be polite, \n\nThis goes SO far when you're playing a game of delaying and making their job harder. \n\nIf you can really keep your mind about it, crack some jokes and get them laughing. After all, they're deciding if they want to fuck both of your days up by going through the process of forcibly searching your shit. \n\nIf you're a \"nice/cool enough\" guy, maybe they'll just grumble and decide it's not worth the trouble.", "The police should be abolished too", "I think a lot of it also has to do with America's relatively poor public education. I remember learning the Bill of Rights, but I still have to look them up to remember the wording, or which ones are which 😂", "Possibly. But if you are trying to think out of the box, especially on the fly, when your anxiety is high that is when you are going to make mistakes. \n\nIf you stick to a simple pattern that you can remember easily that is far safer. And \"Am I free to go?\" is a good compromise between \"Yo, I am getting a lawyer on your ass\" and <silence>.\n\nObviously if the police ask \"how was your day?\" the response probably shouldn't be \"am I free to go?\", not that there is anything wrong or illegal about that response, and replying with \"fine\" is perfectly acceptable. \n\nHowever, in that same situation there might be a tendency to say \"been a long day officer and I am tired\". Well now they probably have a charge of driving while tired.", "Not to mention they can get you in trouble for a speck of cocaine literally the size of a dust particle.", "asdfasdf", "Worry about the criminal system instead of where some random guy wants to keep his money.", "> actually only support the police being shitty to people they don't like. \n\nYou guys just love making dumb shit up.", "He might have debt. I've heard of debt collectors draining entire bank accounts without notification. It happened to a coworker of mine. The banks are on the debt collector's side.", "Are you doing alright?", "Fuck highway interdiction and fuck the feds. Interdiction does nothing but harm americans im so fucking sick of seeing good Americans scrutinized by our own god damn government.", "What do you know about what a normal person would do? Unless it's normal to be as plainly ignorant as you are, you wouldn't understand what \"normal\" people do.", "For a guy that is so concerned about his money, driving around with almost $100k doesn't seem like a great idea. Cops were absolutely wrong, but it's just a strange way to go about it. Like yeah, don't trust banks but driving around with your literal life savings is an awful idea on so many levels", "Fuck cops", "True but thats outside the country in those shit hole countries. \n\n/s/s/s/s/s/s/sss\n\n(i'm using trump's words here for effect don't burn me). \n\n/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s \n\n We both forgot the funny videos of people being tazed, only a 1:1000 chance of dying, and its just excruciating pain, thats not torture, the training guy said so. Look at that one that was running, legs just stopped and he landed on his face hahaha, should have paid for that slurpy enjoy that road rash dumbass.", "Dude said yes to getting searched :-(", "Incredibly brave comment 👌", "I guess they think that because the dog sniffed \"drug Residue\" that the money was involved in it? Either way without proof of criminal wrong doing no money should have been taken.", "If you’re not driving it’s simply “am I being arrested or am I free to go?” No need to identify yourself or answer a single question. At least in my state/country.", "Same exact thing happened to me, bought a car in Pasadena CA went to NC to see my daughter in it, brand new so I let them search, I was wearing shorts and t shirt as it was 90 in LA, got pulled over in tx some random highway and they searched my brand new car for hours, tore out the back seats and went through every golf ball and seem in my golf bag and every inch of the car, no warrant or anything just told me ti stand on the grass and searched \n\nI told them they are wasting their time and let them search as fuck them let them waste their time and maybe they will take some other veteran for their word when they say they have nothing, it was funny staring them down at the end and telling them I told you so, they ripped up my back seat somehow and I couldn’t figure out how to put it back\n\nI asked them for some kind of proof that they searched etc so I can have record, they didn’t give me anything as it was early in the morning etc excuses \n\nI got stopped three times that trip and each time they searched a different small part of my car to see if they missed anything with some lame excuse, I was clean and let them every time, probably wrong to do but fuck it", "You must be looking in the mirror.", "Cops “smelling” things shouldn’t be considered viable probable cause. It’s such a dumb thing, subjective at best and probably more often than not completely fabricated. \n\nHell, even dogs for that matter. Sure, they’re trained a certain way, but something tells me if this guy happened to store some beef jerky in that ziploc bag before using it to transport cash, the dog would’ve ran right over to it.", "Since when can inanimate objects be charged with a crime?", "Tickets are how they get money, and if you're not writing tickets you're not funding them.", "Exactly same for me", "Yeah. Worst \"great movie, shit ending\" movie ever.", "All I hear is the poor luddite crab in a bucket of other crabs telling the financially educated to get into the bucket, one of us one of us.\n\nI don't want to join the poor. I get it you are terrified of new things and are most likely old. I'm old too, but I like money and I've done fairly well. And BTC is a store of value in comparison to fiat. The USD is based on oil, read on the petrodollar. Biden is destroying all US oil ties in the middle east. By his fourth year OPEC will be taking Chinese RMB and there will be nothing left of the dollar. Biden is going to leave financial ruin for America to plant a tree.\n\nMeanwhile normal adults who can see the writing on the wall have moved assets into property, precious metals and crypto.", "Yeah but now \"sexy corn cob\" is in your google search history", "All cops love out of state plates. Less likely to follow through that way. Especially if it's a small town. I lived in Texas until I was 26 and I got pulled over 3 or 4 times and every time it was in Oklahoma. And everytime it was in a town of less than 2k people where the court was only open 1 day a month so I couldn't do anything about it. It was always a bullshit reason that I got a ticket for and I had no choice but to pay it because this hodunk town can't have a single person to answer a phone or tell you when their actual court house is open.", ">This is well know in certain community’s.\n\nQAnon, is that you?", "Why do you people tolerate that?", "So basically the cops are trying to get a bonus.", "> Prisoners lose the right to vote.\n\nNot in Maine.", "Uh oh hes gonna sick a mod on you 🤣", "Ignoring reality will never change reality.", "If you click the link to the graphical representation a few comments up the thread, you'll see a bunch of little black stick figures, each representing an incarcerated person in the US. If you scroll down for a bit, some of them turn blue, and the page says:\n\n\"Notice that the background icons have changed. The blue icons are the portion of incarcerated people who got trials, around 2%.\"\n\nApparently only 2% of incarcerated people in the US ever receive a trial because of how much pressure there is to accept a plea bargain. I didn't realize that fact until reading it on that page just now... Crazy shit.", "And the banks were bailed out by the federal government and the government insures all your money. What does this guy have to be afraid of by putting his money in a bank unless you’re saying the US government is going to collapse", "So this is getting a ton of traction - like a lot of shitty laws and processes in this country do. But what's the best way to bring change here? Donating to a law firm that works pro bono only seems to help after the fact, the issue of civil forfeiture would still remain.\n\nHow do we make a dent in that?", "You’ve illustrated my point with a well made strawman. Nice job.", "You become a cop for the kickbacks and for everything you can steal. There's nothing surprising about this.", "There aren't many leftists in either of those places, democrats are still liberals so they have a tendency towards boot licking just the same as the liberals and out-and-out fascists on the right. Bernie is probably the only one most leftists would agree is even significantly on the left.", "Yeah it's real weird being told growing up how great police are and cops are your friends and all that propaganda and then coming to terms with the reality of it.\n\nOn paper police seem amazing as a concept but in reality they are worse than useless.", "My FIL was a police officer. He shared a story with me once about a time him and his partner suspected someone had illegal contraband in the center console of his car. They held him as long as possible, but the guy never consented to a search. Once the maximum hold time was up, they let him go. My FIL still had no idea what was in the center console.\n\nNever consent to a search. \n\nEver.", "No privilege should be required in order to be free from persecution by government authorities. Or am I reading the Constitution wrong?\n\nWhat is \"Blah blah blah\" supposed to mean?", "that's only like 1/20th of your entire lifetime.\n\nplenty quick ^^/s", "Every day I hate cops more. They are just bullies and military wannabees.", "You report people that are slightly rude to you? Lmao", "A guy wanted to pay me $10k in cash for my car and was pissed I wouldn't take it. I tried to explain civil forfeiture and you know, getting robbed.", "Couldn't even watch the whole video. So much bullshit spewing from that pigs mouth.", "Why are you asking me?", "Possible \"Leopards ate my face\" scenario here, but that is my bias assumption. I would venture to bet the thin blue line folks have little thoughts on this \"procedure\". They cry over their rights to spread a plague, then seemingly ignore, or cannot understand, procedures like this?", "Joke's on you, the actual search was \"hardcore cornography\"", "I think most states define speedy as quicker than 4 years, but the problem is that if the defense is responsible for any of the delays, it resets the clock to some degree. I really think the 4 year timeline in this story may have involved the defence as well - could be wrong though.", "Right? And yet, when you try to explain to someone that believes that Armand Arbery got what he deserved, and you throw that basic American right in their face, you get crickets. I blame it on the ultra right conservative media whose function is take our rights away as Americans.", "Exactly, it's called \"waiving time\" and lawyers generally recommend you sign the waiver whether or not you're going to trial. Don't ask me how I know.\n\nMy criminal justice prof said that if every defendant exercised their right to a speedy trial and insisted on going to trial instead of just taking the first plea deal, the whole criminal justice system would grind to a halt. They just don't have the resources to give everyone a trial if it came to that. Which is funny, considering it's a right that's literally in the constitution.", "He said my eyes \"twitched\" during the light test part of the field sobriety test. Which apparently is, according to him \"the number one sign a person has been drinking\" Good luck proving a cop was wrong in making a judgment call.", "Just getting in your car and driving off while the cops are waiting for the dogs to arrive sounds like a great way to get riddled with bullets.", "Again, a well made straw man. There’s nothing more frustrating than agreeing with someone just to have them argue the shared point so ineptly.", "You do understand that big boys who get a pay check pay their bills and can still invest money outside of the bank. Big boys can invest in stocks, property, precious metals and crypto and still have cash to pay their bills. Big boys also understand what a bank bail in is and that it is coming to the US in very short order and they are limiting their risk to it.", "Actually that is incorrect, at least in Nevada. A dog barking is not probable cause for search, and a warrant is still necessary. They will use all types of tricky language to get you to \"consent\" but the dog really only gives cause for a warrant. The issue at that point becomes the legal time limits on how long you can have someone pulled over and detained without an arrest vs how long it takes to get a warrant. In nevada, last I checked it was 45 minutes, and to get a warrant takes hours on the most high profile case. So in reality, don't fall for that shit. \n\nI actually have a really fun story about getting pulled over in Washoe County while smoking weed, and how the use of this knowledge got us off scott free (ftr the driver was not smoking and passed sobriety tests).... but that's for another time.", "Robbed by the police - what country are we in again? I hope he sues the shit out of these assholes.", "So glad we have police to inconvenience people of their hard earned cash", "How small is your brain, that this is the only response you could come up with after those two paragraphs.", "I remember reading a story in the news about a civil asset forfeiture incident where the victim was opening up a restaurant and had cash on hand cause he was going to an auction to buy kitchen appliances for the restaurant. The cops took all his money on the way there so he wasn’t able to buy any of the equipment he needed and was never able to open the restaurant. It completely ruined his life, and I can’t remember but he may have commit suicide. I’m trying to find the story. I think it took place in Colorado but it could just be that I was in Colorado when I read the story. I think it happened a while ago but was brought up in the newspaper because at the time Colorado was considering amending their civil forfeiture laws.", "Never answer questions. If they request permission to search you, your effects, or anything of yours like a car, say \"I do not consent to any search\".\n\nIf they do search, and you didn't answer any questions, that search and anything it turns up is far more likely to get tossed out.", "Why do you dislike veterans?", "\"innocent until proven guilty\" except of a suspicion of a crime. Lol America.", "It's really weird how you're blaming democrats when Republicans literally invented a flag to support the police killing black people.", "The USA is a fucking shithole. This is absolutely completely fucking unbelievable. How have you let it get to this stage.\n\nThose cops are the biggest fucking cunts I've ever seen. All US cops are the worst, most toxic, immoral criminals. \n\nI'm absolutely raging at this clip. I'm completely fucking astonished.", "Wait they can’t? Why haven’t I ever heard of this??", "Most of the time they're just mobile revenue collectors. Gotta keep the states ineffeicient spending funded.", "Nah, the jokes on you. I'm incredibly turned on and was just trying to figure out how to find more content like this.", "This is a great example of \"shut the fuck up Friday\" needing to be followed.\n\nYou don't need to be belligerent or stupid about things. Provide the info required by law and shut the fuck up.\n\nIt's there anything in your car I should be worried about. \"No\" \n\nWhat about XYZ. My attorney has advised me not to answer questions without counsel present. Am I being detained? Ok am I free to go? \n\nThey don't need to know much else, why were you pulled over. Speeding, ok fine other than the speed you were going and proof you're a licensed and insured driver there's little else they need. You're being interrogated... Not having a conversation and, like the saying goes, ANYTHING you say can AND WILL be used against you. They'll try and trip you up, develop probable cause, out anything else to try and continue the stop and uncover any possible way to get something actionable.\n\nShut the fuck up...", "There's always money in the banana stand.", "Because it was caught on film.", "Because you are taking a random comment as a fact. You must have a bad time being alive.", "I paid for a traffic lawyer to handle it since it was my first speeding ticket (along with a ticket for crossing a solid line at 02:30am, and a illegal uturn at 01:30am). \n\nI made the mistake of telling said lawyer I needed my tickets pushed up for a hearing cause I was headed off to Air Force Basic Training. You can't have tickets while you're there, so he took advantage of the situation, pleaded guilty on all of them with the excuse that \"there's no defense for what I did\". \n\n$600 to a scumbag lawyer\n$500 for a bogus speeding ticket\n$300 for violating the other two loose driving laws\n$750 \"driver assessment fee\" to prevent my license from getting suspended.\n40% increase on my insurance rates\n\nThe funny thing afterwards was I was at a dinner party with non-asian friends (I'm Taiwanese), and when I was walking to the dinner table, I saw one of the cops that pulled me over while he was making wisecracks about giving me the solid line ticket. I never wanted to bash someone's face in that badly.", "B I T C O I N", "That won't protect you. They can just make something up to get their probable cause. 'Driver was behaving erratically', or 'there was an odor of marijuana coming from the vehicle'. It'll help you later in court, but if you do have your stash on you you're gonna get arrested all the same. The fantasy of a cop just throwing up their hands like 'ah damn, they said we can't' and driving away doesn't happen. \n\nMeanwhile, all kinds of bad shit happens to you. You get handcuffed and your vehicle gets impounded. The cops steal anything of value (gun, money, etc). Then you go to jail, and have to get bonded out. Then you have to hire a lawyer to fight it. Oh, were you on your way to work or had work in the morning? Well, hope your boss is really tolerant, because you just no-call no showed. Guilty or not, most jails will keep you in there for at least 24 hours (or 23.5 hours). Even if they're tolerant of that absence, you now gotta a lot of explaining to do to your boss. Hopefully you don't lose your job. \n\nWe do have laws that protect us from serious prison time, spelled out in our constitution. Miranda rights, the 4th amendment, the fifth, etc. But cops have the power to fuck _anyone's_ life up at _any time_. The people who don't believe that are naive.", "That’s what getting robbed by a gang looks like.", "This happened to me by nv highway patrol too. Right outside of wells nv. Took 14.5k and had recipts as well. Told me I had to prove where I was going to spend it. Pigs are road pirates.", "That sucks...sound like you are a good person trying to do right by your foster daughters. Good luck.", "And then you say \"FUCK THE POLICE\" and people get offended.", "Hopefully he gets his money back and then some.", "the 6th amendment is a joke, it is so loosely worded it could mean anything, NY attempted to have a specific time, but there are so many loopholes that 3 years on remand is not unknown.", "In Nevada? It is like the 7th largest state or something, so there is a lot of highway.", "You pathetic boot licker", "I mean, sorry your reading comprehension isn't up to par 😂", "A person's property should remain their property. Only stolen property and proceeds from illegal enterprise should ever be seized. After the person of interest has been convicted of a crime the property was acquired in. If the state must take property as evidence or other reasons. It should be held in trust. Assuming it will be returned to the owner in the same condition as taken. If the state loses or damages property property. Them it must make restitution. \n\nFines should be outright abolished. The state shouldn't take money as a form of punishment. As it makes things only a crime for the poor. The only time the state can order a convicted person to pay money. Is to make registration to the victims. The state can never be the victim.", "the average amount for civil forfeiture is like 600 bucks.\n\nit's just another way the government can take poor people's money.\n\nI used to have to do money runs for my job and would regularly drive around with 5-15k in cash. \n\nI would have loved to have a cop take it because the owner of the business has money for good lawyers and can be extremely petty if he or one of his trusted guys (like me) is disrespected. He would have spent five times that just to make them give it back and would probably try to get the cop fired", "LOL, who \"wants\" to be pulled over.\n\nSo stupid...", "stay mad, NPC", "Money doesn't have rights you silly guy!", "The government does not insure all of your money, it insured up to 250k. But the main point is that is an example of banks acting incredibly shady and in bad faith which... wait for it... is a reason not to trust them. I use banks, I think it’s safer but to pretend as if there is no reason not to trust banks makes me think you don’t really know what you are talking about at all, there are plenty of reasons", "what a shithole lmao", "He's speaking of the English Civil War, not the Revolutionary War. Very different wars fought for very similar reasons.", "Simply having money in your car isn't being careless. You seem fine with the police violating people's rights as long as you \"feel\" like they deserved it. Not how it works, I'm afraid.", "You hit the nail on the head. A lot of people have a pretty screwed up sense of how to make things “fair” for everyone. A very big sentiment I see is kinda like “well if I don’t benefit the maximum possible way from this thing, then nobody should have it, in fact, I hope it hurts certainly people in particular while still holding no baring on my life”. Idk where this misguided sense of fairness and unfairness comes from but it certainly needs to end.", "Every day is shut the fuck up Friday. Shut the fuck up, have a nice day.", "Beware people, just because there are bad people out there this guy thinks the cops can treat you like one of them and not have to prove you’re guilty. Guilty until proven innocent! Fuck everyone there are bad guys out there and you look like one. Give me your life savings. Who cares if you area bad guy or not.", "It becomes more and more difficult to tell the difference between the police and a gang of criminals.", "While the democratic party claims the left they are actually mostly conservative. The left doesn't really have a voice here.", "It IS abolished in the US.\n\n4th ammendment.", "It’s not idiotic. This kind of conversation carries into the real world. If you’re unable or unwilling to articulate your point effectively with people who already agree with you, online or not, how are you ever going to do it in person when it actually might matter? I suppose it’s expecting too much. It’s to be expected that people just want to bitch and moan but not actually get up and do anything. It’s why this shit is allowed to happen in the first place. Everyone shakes their digital fist at unseeing eyes then carry on like nothing ever happened. So I guess I was kinda stupid to expect anything worthwhile from you guys 🤷🏼‍♀️", "I’m glad he got his money back. It seems like very little process to take somebody’s money like that", "So you’re telling me blue lives matter more than green lives? Police get more love in this country than our own veterans. What a travesty, really. The folks who have seen combat versus the fat pigs here.", "Wait, a Soviet citizen had to write a paper which was positive towards Karl Marx?\n\nNo fucking way bro!! I can't imagine why someone in a totalitarian dictatorship would do that! \n\n>But perhaps no one was prepared for the lengths the banking lobby would go to convey how unacceptable Omarova is to them. \n\nThis is all I have to know about her. If bankers hate her she's gonna be just great", "How much did you have to pay for the car impound?", "Bitcoin solves this but not the fuckery the cops did", "Suspicious? No. Maybe not the norm. But in the end it's literally no one's fuckin business besides the IRS making sure they get a cut. With personal receipts they likely are.", "Just curious, who else carries their life savings in cash with them.", "redditora soyjackium fedoratippunin", "Weed is already legal in NJ and NY. They haven't opened up any recreational dispensaries yet as far as I'm aware, but I believe it's right around the corner here in NJ. However, in a super bullshit move, the majority of state municipalities actually just \"opted out\" of recreational businesses being allowed to open up there. Assholes. We legalized in 2020 I think, but they are moving at an absolute snail's pace. Also it's like the shittiest set up in the country, with growing personal amounts at home still being illegal.", "Discussions around QI tend to lean slightly on the histrionic side of the spectrum. The standards need to be tweaked, but outright removal of it would bring government action to a stand still (as an aside, this video is from IJ, a right wing organization that is very anti-QI). \n\nQI doesn't protect officers if what they were doing was \"clearly illegal\" at the time of the action. Its purpose is to allow officials (not just cops) some protection for exercising their discretion when it comes to grey areas etc. You have some comparable level of protection in your own private jobs as well. Granted, most of that comes from the nature of your company just being a much more enticing target for judgment.", "I don’t, I’m a vet myself. Reddit overall has strong disdain for vets and police officers.", "Huh interesting I always thought it was - https://www.investopedia.com/articles/personal-finance/062315/how-interest-rates-work-savings-accounts.asp\n\nBut now that I read more into it i see it's more complicated - https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/022416/why-banks-dont-need-your-money-make-loans.asp", "Hey Britain looks like it's learning from America ...\n\nhttps://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/nov/17/new-bill-quietly-gives-powers-to-remove-british-citizenship-without-notice?u\n\nWe can now remove your citizenship without telling you in the UK.\n\n No trial, no proper due process. That means...\n\nNo Right to vote, no job, no house ....\n\nhttps://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/british-man-blocked-uk-home-office-passport-brussels-a9332311.html", "Had you pulled out to pass he would've popped you for cutting him off... If they want to stop you they will. I've seen videos of police taking about how they'll get behind a car and serve their car slightly to make you panic and think you're serving so when you \"correct\" or get paranoid they can pull you over for erratic driving.\n\nSo you're doing nothing but driving and boom ticket and a chance to maybe find more.", "That’s what getting robbed by a gang looks like in America.", "What does any of this have to do with him being a vet?", "In Britain, the way we did it was to put up speed cameras and drop the speed limit overnight. 5 years of going to work on a 50mph road, Come a random Tuesday, now 40MPH only they already took your picture BREAKING THE LAW YOU VILLAINOUS BASTARD!. Free money.", "\nAll that freedom you guys have over there", "While I don't fully disagree with you, there are ways to be prepared without making your presence felt. Every New Year's Eve, police officers from all around New York City are strategically stationed around Times Square incase something happens, but you rarely feel their presence.", "Considering the Republicans look to be well placed to overturn any election they don't win from 2024 onwards... At least they won't have to incarcerate so many people to squash the democratic vote.", "I’m not a violent man, but if the cops took my hard earned money it would be very difficult to not wanna blow up their entire station.", "I have a constitutional right to unlimited bread sticks at olive garden, granted to me by the Lord.", "Cops are trained to hate civilians.\n\nThis is one of the biggest problems, their \"us vs them\" mentality. You know why people hate cops so goddamn bad? Because you fuckers are TRAINED to HATE us. Ignorant, power drunk, hogs.", "You have ample downvotes so let me spell it out for you. Not a vet=media indifference. No media coverage resulting in public outrage=nest egg lost.\n\nNot saying veterans have it good. This is one circumstance where his status worked in his favor. I am 41, and basically everyone I know who went to Iraq/Afghanistan is either dead or really fucked up in one way or another from it. \n\nThis might have worked out for him, but I still hold sorrow and awareness to the ghosts and skeletons in his mind forever.", "What laws? He didn't break any laws tard. That's kind of the point.", "Should’ve given the no on searching the vehicle he has every right.", "Dude I've had court cases that have taken upwards of three years. Depending on where you live they are scheduling initial trials 18 months out.", "Couldn’t agree more. Speeding should only be enforced ALONG WITH other factors like unsafe lane change maneuvers, unless somebody is egregiously over the limit. Many times, the speed limits are grossly under what any reasonable person would consider safe and they’ll regularly nail someone for perfectly safe, over posted limit driving. It’s a joke.", "The department and city/country can still be sued but individual cops in most cases can't be sued.", "All all of their revenue comes from state line to Vegas with out of staters..", "Obama stopped the program for it in 2015. Or stopped Fed support for it, which pretty much killed the benefits the states received from it.", "That is how it works. You the citizen aren't in trouble the money has to prove it is legal. So fucking bullshit. Founding fathers would be Soo pissed at what we have become.", "Criminals can get free medical care and 3 meals a day but a kid can get arrested for taking extra milk in school. Diabetic patients can die because insulin too expensive.", "We have a lot of presidents to thank for this. Perhaps Reagan most of all. Even your own link says that he's the one who really made it happen at the executive branch level.", "This is fucking bullshit", "The only reason I didn't mention the American fascist party is because I assumed that went without saying. Anyone with half a brain already knows those cunts support police brutality, police racism, and police corruption.\n\nI was mainly trying to get the point across that a lot of democrats also support this shit either tacitly or actively.", "Really thought you had something here huh", "Send it my way!", "Driving under the influence isn’t. It’s for sure an acceptable probable cause.", "The issue is incompetent cops who can commit armed robbery and never see the inside of a prison cell. Those thugs should be facing multiple felony charges, not prancing around in cop costumes robbing American citizens at gunpoint.", "There will be a lawsuit trust me", "Ha ha! That is awesome!", "Fuck the police.\n\nAnd fuck cash. \n\nCops can't seize your Bitcoin", "They really dont like people mentioning that monsters are still human or that sometimes human monsters were created by vicious abuse.\n\nPeople do not like considering who they are is not entirely their own doing. That we are all molded in some way by our experiences early in life.", "I'm not familiar with anyone having their account disappear so to speak but it wouldn't shock me if it has happened. And yeah, I think it's stupid to keep your life savings in cash instead of in a bank or other kinds of hard assets but that doesn't change the fact that banks regularly get caught red handed engaging in skulduggery. (i really like that word and use it whenever i can) We pretty much agree with each other I'm just trying to point out that it's not unreasonable to distrust financial institutions considering their past behavior.", ">Civil forfeiture should be abolished.\n\nIt has a purpose that it was designed for, specifically fighting organized crime. The problem is that regular beat cops can't be trusted with it, because they use it to steal people's money and pad their own budget.", "Yep.", "Cartels, of course, by definition have many employees and never keep all their \"eggs (drugs, money, guns) in one basket.\" Losing a certain percentage to cops and seizures and lawyers and corrupt judges is simply a business write-off for them and doesn't make any real difference in the market.\n\nEverybody else, not directly involved in this evil fucking drug war, are the ones who suffer.\n\nAll recreational substances should be legalized, taxed, and reasonably regulated. Ending the prohibition against alcohol was the best decision regarding alcohol possible. Not great, or even good, but better than any other option.", "Got it. Thanks!", "They can have a dog sniff it. Almost all the money in America has trace amounts of coke. \nThen they seize it.", "Trump loves civil forfeiture and has threatened to destroy the career of any politician who tries to change the law. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6CsSiD2hHM", "I was pulled over 20 years ago on my way back to college, by a cop who stated that I \"took a turn too wide to the outside, and had I done the same thing but to the inside, I could've hit him.\" I was 19 and didn't know shit, so when he asked to search my car, I agreed. The car was full of shit since I was moving into my dorm, and he searched every bag, finding nothing (I'm 39 now and still haven't even smoked weed, which I'm not proud of haha). I've thought about that asshole at least once a week for 20 years.", "None of your fuking business, that's what. Jesus Christ what happened to being free in this country?", "lol well to be honest a large portion comes from me driving from northern nevada and back. I have gotten probably 6 tickets on that road. \n\nAll of which i earned.", "You're white aren't you? No accusation in this question. Just assuming", "I disagree. We should seize the assets of corrupt politicians when they commit any number of illicit activities not to include insider trading.", "Like $260 I think. Had two friends with me at the time and he wouldn't let them drive the car home either. The cop was just a huge prick during the whole ordeal. The look on his face when the desk cops started to book me in after my fourth breathalyzer and he had to say \"no no no he's not under arrest, he's free to go\" was pretty nice. Not enough redemption obviously but it was a small victory.", "If you use your right to just leave, I promise you they will brutally attack you and arrest you and search your car anyways and then you have maybe a 5% of ever getting justice out of that", "So the police are thieves. Got it.", "And getting your money back costs more than the money itself!", "> does FDIC not mean shit anymore?\n\nMy bank ('sup Netbank) failed in 2008, and I had all my money there. FDIC was amazing... kept me informed, got accounts transferred, and I think got me access to some money quickly (because I had to pay rent and such). Went as well as you could ever hope.\n\nOf course, I now have 3 banks because I'm not going through that again.", "I see. Then forget I spoke.", "I invest safely. Crypto is a casino.", "I don't think it's just the democratic vote that's being suppressed. Or rather, I don't think the mainstream democrats are the ones suffering from this. What's suffering most is anyone who wants to break from the duopoly.", "As a white 35 year old I got pulled over for having my registration sticker on the wrong side of my license plate. He even admitted it wasn't technically illegal to have the sticker on that side. I just happened to be driving through a predominantly black neighborhood", "Saw the piece on Civil Forfieture on John Oliver, my jaw dropped.\n\nLike whutttt ??!!!... \n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kEpZWGgJks\n\nLiterally getting robbed by the cops!", "It's a somewhat recent supreme court ruling.", "Ohhh ok. Huge difference. So the people TRAINING officers get the money in your state. I wonder why and who tells the LEOs to do civil forfeitures???? Hint: it's from DAY FUCKING ONE by the Academy. Are you truly this stupid? That's a rhetorical question btw, we already know the answer.", "I think you're probably a pedophile. Best throw you in prison just to be sure. Is that how this works?", "Ummm thin blue line has been around since the 1950s... and became used across the US by the 70s (Same with green, yellow, red, white, gold, orange etc) not sure when the others came along but the Thin blue has been around since (probably) before you where born.\n\nBlue lives matter appropriated it in 2014", "> Once you have been pulled over by the police you are legally obliged to give them your license and registration.\n\nOnly after they tell you why they stopped you. You're not obliged to present documents before that.", "Actually they went to the heart of the ~~English~~ colonists' grievances with England that led to the civil war.\n\nEven the citizens of predominantly white colonies get second class status in the British empire. God save the Queen!", "Not true, that case was decided that way because the cop had already given the driver a ticket. That ended the stop. The cop can just sit in his car for an hour without writing the ticket while he waits for the dog and that it completely fine.", "EvEn If YoU dId...", "Hahaha OK bud. Asset seizure was only a problem after 2021. You're an idiot.\n\nSorry your rich buddies are getting the shaft for being greedy scum. This has been happening to the proles for decades if not centuries.\n\nKeep projecting.", "Let be honest though, the USA doesn’t even treat many of it’s regular citizens very well (at least anyone who isn’t rich or middle class) \n\nNo Universal healthcare, shitty education in lower demographics, ridiculously priced higher education, shitty working conditions and pay… and many other things.\n\nLet’s just say, in many ways America isn’t judged very on how it treats regular people by the rest of the world.", "These two are armed robbers and belong in prison. Unfortunately those are petty criminals when compared to the rest of the police force.", "Fcking #RoadPirates 🖕🖕🖕", "What about the Tenth Amendment? Nobody even knows what the fuck that is, let alone that it's long dead.", "Except it doesn't... just look up the myriad of cases where people were promised citizenship for serving.", "There's a John oliver episode on it https://youtu.be/3kEpZWGgJks", "It’s all good! Tell these stories! The people should know.", "I told a friend not to let their housemate do weed delivery for this exact reason. It might be \"legal\" where you live but it's still a federal crime and if they pay their share of the rent using tainted money it will taint the house. Not worth the risk.", "How can you pro-police when they are constantly doing criminal stuff?\n\nI don't get how you can support them. They'll do immoral, criminal acts and then they'll defend and protect each other while fucking over citizens. Regularly.\n\nWhat is there to support?", "For damages, you would have to sue in court and prove them, the interest is automatic.", "\"I'm a vet, you're a vet\" then proceeds to seize his fellow vet's life savings. Buddy fucking POS.", "Who cares what he is doing with the cash, it's his cash. He can do whatever he wants with it.", "I was framed for 1st deg burg in the mid 2000's. Bond was $20k\n\nIt really upheaved my whole world. Almost every lawyer I called either wouldn't touch the case or wanted a $15k retainer just to start.\n\nLuckily, my dad's old dui lawyer took the case for around $5k with $2.5k retainer.\n\nIf I didn't have him, it's possible I would just now be getting out of prison for something I had nothing to do with, other than pissing off some crackhead my friend was dating at the time.\n\nDue process only works if you can afford it.", "Burn it all down.", "Isnt spending money a protected form of expression? Seems like it should be unconstitutional to deprive ppl of that", "I'm reading on it lol. Its absolutely worthy of criticism. Totally normal to ask for sources for odd claims", "> All I hear is the poor luddite crab in a bucket of other crabs telling the financially educated to get into the bucket, one of us one of us.\n\nYou sound like a crypto zombie clown. Almost no one uses crypto to buy shit, it’s a worthless currency that was originally started to be anonymous and launder money/hide illegal online drug buys. These days it’s not anonymous and used for almost nothing. It’s price is based on artificial scarcity as people hoard it speculatively in hopes that their scamcoin will one day rocket in price. It provides no value to society and only does anything better than fiat currency because of it’s nearly unregulated, which will definitely change someday, probably sooner than later. You probably have like $2k in btc and think you’re Bill Gates lmao.", "don’t have drugs in your car. A car has way too many warrant exceptions. Don’t even get me started on “inventory searches”.", "Did he also sue to recoup legal costs?", "Holy crap I can’t believe that guy was serious.", "With distracted driving laws now that is probably a possibility; I can't say for sure. I am by no means a legal expert. I am just providing my knowledge from the many videos I have watched from Think Like A Cop (former police officer) and Lawyers like this guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE that talk about about the same issues.\n\nPerhaps the response should be \"No comment, can you please clarify?\"", "And because it's property, it doesn't carry constitutional rights, like innocent until proven guilty. You have to prove the money wasn't included in illegal trade.", "Thats 6 years old just FYI", "Wow. So carrying around my weeks pay in cash could land me in this situation.\n\nThe time to abolish civil forfeiture is now.", "This⬆️", "Simple forfeiture needs to go away, but this guy deserves what he got.\n\n\"I cant believe this would happen to me, a combat veteran...\"\n\nNo buddy, your history of being a hired goon does not make you a supercitizen and immune to what the rest of us endure.", "With an out of control gang masquerading as a police force.", "Well if I didn't do anything wrong I've nothing to worry about!\n\n/s just in case", "That's so fucked up. Fuck them and I hope he overturns these bullshit laws.\n\nIn a way, thank goodness such a great American was hit with this for now he can reform it.", "Look into WolfPAC. It’s a non partisan PAC out to make PACs illegal along with all dark money. Kind of along those lines but still legal.", "TIL - friendly cops are just bad cops trying to get your guard down so they can fuck you.", "See I had the opposite experience some years back. I was leaving a Dave & Buster's type of place with a few of my friends.\n\nI had one beer with my dinner and then proceeded to rock climb, play laser tag, and play arcade games. We left about 3 hours after getting there.\n\nI got pulled over by a cop after making a right hand turn on red. He told me he pulled me over because I didn't fully stop. I did fully stop but he was just lying and using that as the excuse to pull me over.\n\nHe asked me if I had anything to drink and this was before I knew to just shut up and not answer questions like that. But I told him the truth that I only had one beer with food and it was several hours ago.\n\nHe had me step out of the car and perform field sobriety test, a few of which I failed because I was nervous I guess.\n\nHe then had me to do the breathalyzer and I blew 0.00 the first time, so he had me do it again and I blew 0.00 the second time.\n\nHe then asked me again how much I had to drink that night and I told him just the one beer. He then told me to have a good night and drive safe and let me go.\n\nSorry to hear your experience was so shitty 😕", "I don't think many feminists actually care. Never seems to be very high on their priority list, anyway. Even for those who give it lip service, there's always more pressing issues that need to be addressed first.", "Pushing aside how terrible this is. Why on earth would you carry that much around with you? I can understand not knowing you are rolling through a State with civil forfeiture laws but I couldn't imagine carrying that much around with me.\n\nOf course anyone can do whatever the hell they want but I really don't see why they would want to.\n\nThe most I have had on me at any single time was a grand but it's been decades since I have had even that much since we have been moving away from cash.", "Reagan is another major issue. He wanted to stomp out the anti war and black communities. Most of them have their personal opinions so deeply rooted that they refuse to see eye to eye with their constituents. Look at how both Republicans and Democrats are going for legalizing (or decriminalizing) marijuana. But Joe is still against it and Kamala (despite using in the past herself) has made a career out of fucking over people over low level drug charges. \n\nLike I said in another comment, the suits are worse than the badges.", "Correct. I would have been better to decline to answer. \"I don't know\" is NOT the same as not answering.", "Ah yes the state taking my money is a capitalistic issue.", "Aka abuse of state of emergency", "A few hundred grand a year is a few hundred grand a year. I find it hard to believe that police who obsess over collecting $200 traffic tickets all day are going to waste an opportunity to grab $50,000+ in cash.", "The just world fallacy. I, as usual, blame religion.", "Right from the start it's nonsense. You're driving slow...isn't that because he's behind something that is driving at that speed?", "As a teenager I got pulled over with a not insignificant amount of drugs. They asked to search my car and I said no. They harangued me and asked over and over for two hours (!!!) as I sat on the hood of their car. They promised that they’d pin any drugs on my passengers and not me. They called for backup and yet I still said no and they did nothing. In hindsight, no idea why dogs weren’t called or something. Just say no!!", "Pigs are gonna pig.", "Saying literally anything other than \"I don't answer questions\" was his mistake.", "So you agree that it's republicans that support fascist police.", "USA! USA! WE'RE #1!", "As Prop (Jason Petty) puts it, they're all just gangstas in nice suits.", "I bet he uses a bank now.", "Yeah that's fucked up but also a dumbass move to keep 10 grand in cash. What the hell are you expecting to happen? Especially if that was a grow in an illegal state. If that's the case then that's all on her. That's poor common sense", "I didn't even watch the video because I was gonna get sick if I did", "Believe it or not? Straight to jail.", ">education\n\nEvery vet in the last 40 years has been forcibly sat through financial wellness classes. He had the education but chose not to heed it.", "The thing is, they never get specific about what the \"community\" they serve is, exactly. Upon examination, they serve the \"community\" of property holders in the order of the proportional value of property. And, for multitudes of cops, the inverse proportional melanin value of a person's skin.", "“This is America “", "Or, charge the cops with armed robbery. Dust off the constitution. And remind these fuks who they work for. No citizen should be robbed at gunpoint for carrying their own fuking around. This isn't China.", "Probably 3 years ago.", "I know normal people don’t drive around with 90k cash. Aren’t most people too broke to afford a sudden 1k expense? Stop acting like I’m out of touch with reality because I made the reasonable guess that normal people aren’t driving around with 90k in cash", "This is why I have many crypto wallets! Fuck the USD and banks!", "Following to close, yet also going to slow.\n\nMake up your dam mind.", "Don’t even say “no,” since they’ll ask semi-ambiguous negative questions like “would you mind if I searched your car?” “No” clearly means you’re giving permission, but it could be argued (in bad faith, but that doesn’t matter) that “yes” could also mean you’re giving permission (as in “yeah, go ahead”).\n\nExplicitly say that they do not have your permission.", "Driving exactly the speed limit, impossible to do, suspicious.", "Yeah, but it just sounds like you're trying to be a centrist \"both sides\" type when you're trying to blame the party that hasn't done much to stop it and ignore the party that supports it.\n\nIf you truly believe that is the reason that democrats support gun control, then why do you ration that the fascist party that supports the police wants people to have guns?", "Could he have refused to let them search the car? If he didn't cooperate would he have been better off?", "If you want to hold a lot of cash, consider using stablecoins + a good hardware or mobile wallet (backup your seed on paper!).", "Thanks for posting this.", "I can’t even finish the video. Dude is driving on a major highway this is a common through way to major states. Yet the cop is grilling him on all of his life’s choices. “Oh where are you coming from oh why are you driving there? What type of work did you do in Texas?” This doesn’t sound like a country that actually believes we’re “free” to me", "Only in America are the COPS the Highway Robbers.....", "What is he supposed to do? Move to another state because it's not legal there and demonstrate for it because he now lives there?", "And there we have it. The one response the conservative NPC has.", "Tell that to The Young \"LA is underpoliced\" Turks", "When you learn that the OG gangs were put together as a neighborhood defense against police, it all starts to make sense", "Is this true for a routine traffic stop with no contraband in the car?\n\nHow do you say it so it doesn’t escalate from a 10 minute hiccup in my day to getting dragged out of my car and beaten down?", "Probably because just existing is enough for society to victim blame girls for getting molested by their uncle when they were six. I can see why prison rape is a few rungs down from that in priority. \n\nI'm not playing gender based whataboutism with my comment above, I'm intolerable of everyday hypocrisy.", "How dumb are you? I said it's wrong/he should be mad. But he should also be mad at himself for being dumb enough to walk around with $90k. He's one pickpocket away from bankruptcy. A fool and his money are soon parted.", "Religion is the root of all evil.", "well that explains it. you don’t know much about the topic.", "I’m not arguing with you on that. I wish the police would fuck off.", "Their suspicions mean leas than Jack shit. He broke bo laws. They can shove their suspicions up their empty heads. I'm tried of pretending we need to tolerate criminal thugs in cop costumes. Those idiots should be facing prison time for armed robbery.", "Literal highway robbery", "Or [One 1958 Plymouth Sedan v. Pennsylvania ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_1958_Plymouth_Sedan_v._Pennsylvania)", "And with that amount of currency it was virtually certain the \"drug dog\" would hit on it. What a total fucking joke. Vomitus.", "Where is the cartel when you need them.", "So? It’s not the post, it’s a reference. Are you saying the problem has gone away in the last several years?", "Ssriously. Some form of personal responsibility exists in almost everything we do.\n\nI guarantee most people downvoting you lock their doors at night, don't leave their keys in their car, wouldn't walk through an alley at night, etc.\n\nCriminals and shitty cops exist. You can't just not take any precautions on your part, walk through an alley at night with a bag of cash, and then when you inevitably get robbed you fall back on some shit like \"if criminals didn't exist I wouldn't have been robbed!\" The fact is they do exist and there are many steps you can take to try to mitigate the outcome. One of the steps this guy could've taken was to keep all his cash in a bank or at home. It's absolutely stupid to carry around that much cash on your person for whatever reason.", "I rewatch that video every few years, just to remind myself.", "So one. Local agencies should not get kickbacks from this. Two. Yeah I can see the local cop calling this in for a check it’s a large amount of money. Three. What the hell is wrong with the US?", "Never give consent. To search your car, enter your home anything.", "Yeah... If a cop asks you questions, it's an interrogation. It is never in your interest to answer questions. There is a certain level of cooperation to give, but that's just to not piss off the armed person who may have a power complex.\n\nBut dear God, I don't care if you think you have done nothing wrong, never, ever consent to a search.\nIn fact I would go so far as to question everything the officer does, and start saying you don't have my permission, you don't have a legal right to be doing that.\n\nIf you don't trust banks, I don't know why you would trust LE more...", "What year was your class? Just curious about your level of inside knowledge of the process or if you're just talking out of your ass.\n\nThat's rhetorical. We all know the answer.", "Shouldn’t the second ammendmenters be all over this with guns drawn to take on tyrannical gubmint????", "True, but any police officer will tell you that there are so many traffic violation laws out there that every single person every day makes an infraction. So while you can question it, and contest it, there is no doubt the police are going ask for your License and Registration.\n\nStarting off the conversation with:\nWhat is your name? I don't have to give my name officer - is almost guaranteed to end up in a charge of some sort.\n\nEdit: even in the video by the OP here the police officer specifically mentions the BS charge of \"following too closely\" to justify the traffic stop (and thus can request ID)", "This isn't the first case of nevada law enforcement taking monies. The Humboldt country sheriffs office did it multiple times and one deputy in particular was eventually fired over it (surprise also I believe ended up in jail for domestic abuse as well)", "That's all they are. I'm sure there are some that care about us, but most care about themselves and their pockets. And we can get term limits already? I'm sick of waiting on Mitch to die so anything can actually get done.", "All true but you're only encouraging this disgusting behavior. The police force is a very corrupt organizations and we shouldn't have to work around corruption.\n\nAlso these cops are complete shit, he was cooperating and respectfully until the end. He fought for our country and this is how cops treated him. Pigs they all are", "Search and seizure", "pigs are shit but this dude could have been more sensible. surely he wasnt carrying his lifesavings while out on combat missions either", ">...After he consented to a search...\n\nOof. Lesson learned there. \n\n>And I could not believe that I had just been literally robbed on the side of the road by people with badges and guns.\n\nYep.", "Lol, it's just the way you said it. Came off as cunty. I came back here to delete it since I was equally cunty, but the damage has been done. \n\nAnd if you're curious, I voted for Biden. I don't like him, but I'm not sitting through Trump again.", "I think you forgot the #s.\n\nHospital waits are crazy in BC", "It is never a good idea to travel with large amounts of cash as most states have a law in place where if a person has over a certain amount of cash that is grounds for suspicion and potential seizure. In the state of Kentucky for example, the cash amount for suspicion is under $1000.00. \n If this persons cash had been converted into travelers checks, not only is the money no longer cash but also insured.", "cost of living going up, and life expectancy going down. so great.", "...it is. I live in the prairies in Canada and from what I understand the states that don't have it are all on the east coast. All the states I want to visit (Washington and California for the gold coast, Nevada for the shows in Vegas, Louisiana for the food and music, and New York for broadway) all have it.", "Give your name and your id. Don’t be a dick and don’t raise your voice. When the questions start, where are you coming from, where are you going, how fast were you going. Simply say, I’d rather not answer questions sir/ma’am but you are happy to comply in other respects. When they ask why, explain that it’s your right not to. If they to search decline for the same reason. Neutral expression and neutral tone of voice. If you look smug you’re getting pulled out.", ">Asset seizure was only a problem after 2021.\n\nImagine not knowing that Biden has been in politics longer than a year. Also, it's still not \"after\" 2021. Idiot.", "His mistake was thinking he could trust the police, and so permitted them to go further and further, because he was a vet, they were vets, and were thus trustworthy.\n\nNever trust a cop. Whatever distrust you have in banks? That's foolishly mistaken, because money will take care of money. Cops don't take care of anything except themselves.", "Don't forget that certain cops don't need warrants at all, like game wardens.", "And they’re not supposed to shoot unarmed people either. There ain’t no damn rules when the people enforcing the rules are the ones violating the rules", "I was on my way home from work one night and a cop was parked halfway on the shoulder and halfway in my lane. I slowed down to around 10 miles per hour and went around him. He pulled me over for crossing the yellow line. Tried to get me for DUI. I gladly volunteered for the breathalyzer and he let me go. The road I was on led to a popular bar. They use this tactic all the time in that area.", "In many states smelling weed is not enough justification.", "My state just loves appearing tough on crime and would rather extract money from the poorest through fines, fees, court costs and incarceration “rent”. \n\n70% of the population voted for some form of cannabis legalization and the governor put it in the budget only to have republicans refuse to approve the budget until all forms of legalization were removed. \n\nPeople thought the governor would have some kind of power until they learned that upon hearing they would officially be ousted after losing the election, the Republican governor signed a bill giving up all of his powers except as a figurehead and gave the powers to lawmakers, who were all republicans. They planned on making the Democrat governor appear weak and frail, gutting voting and hoping to “win” the next election by just not being the current guy who has no power. We will undoubtedly be “able” to vote in a Republican next election where all power will be unanimously restored to the office of governor and they can appear infinitely more strong than democrats. This will seal the Republican deal here and Democrats who have the ability will just flee the state. \n\nThey run all their testing here for what they want to do to the country and it’s working like a charm, people are complaining that Evers isn’t getting anything done and the rural rich are getting ready to enjoy much more representation.", "Also this is very different from \"The government\", those are shitbag cops doing shitbag cop stuff to pay off things and buy other things. This is a corrupt police issue, when you say \"the government\" the people who absolutely love cops come around and agree with you, kinda defeats the purpose lmao", "I once hit a bush going the wrong way down a one way and the cop who laughed at me and had to get my car out of said bush was my friend.. (Joking, cops are never your friends)", "Wonder how this would have went if he didn’t answer any questions and kept quiet? They would’ve brought that dog and said “he alerted.” And then they would have seized the money. Same result.", "My step father was a former cop, when I was a teen I asked him what is probable cause.. He said anything I want it to be... So there's that.", "It’s also entirely plausible for someone to have been at a party where cannabis was consumed, not partake, and reek of weed.", "Are you going to tear up and re-pour the foundation, too?", "Reading back I agree, I came off cunty. I'm not the type to delete comments though, let it stay for anyone who may need it. Voting for Biden made me feel physically ill, I just can't stand Trump", "The cop literally rubs his palms together at 3:40 when he finds out he has a large amount of cash in the vehicle. Cartoonish.", "It takes like 20 minutes to have it back in USD again, though? I mean it's really not that big a deal", "Ugh... That sucks...\n\nI served on a Grand Jury once. The GJ met one day a week, every week, for four months. We had a cop on our jury. One day, during our lunch break, he admitted out loud that:\n\n\"I became a cop so I could drive cars as fast as I want, carry a gun wherever I want, and beat people up.\"\n\nThere are good cops out there, but the problem is that the profession just caters to dudes that are control freaks with anger management problems.", "He didn’t trust banks but he did trust the cops. Definitely got that backwards.", "Sorry I didn't mean to sound like an ass this article just has me pissed", "Wait until your card gets stolen and the bank refuses to believe you.", "Tell us how you really feel.", "I was stopped a while back on a work trip. I was in an out of state rental car driving south on the interstate. I assumed it was a tail light or something. But no, when I asked why he just said something like \"a lot of drugs come through this area and we'd like to know if you'd consent to a search\". \n\nI was stopped for literally no reason other than they wanted to search my car for drugs. That pissed me off so I said no and asked if I could leave. The guy didn't answer and said please wait while I call my supervisor. The supervisor shows up and says the same shit. I say no again and can I leave now. He asks me to wait AGAIN.\n\nFinally they bring out the drug dog and tell me they will do an outside the car search and once that's done I'm free to go(I guess they because they dont need my consent for that). They do the search and I leave after 30-40 incredibly frustrating minutes.\n\nHere's the kicker. I told this story to my friend that's a police officer in my home town. He told me that I was stopped for driving the speed limit in an out of state car. Also, they only stop the cars going south in that area because the drugs go north, but the money goes south. They aren't after drugs, they're after money.\n\nHow we have not banned this practice is beyond me.\n\nEdit: This happened before the 2015 supreme court case that decided police cant detain you while they wait for a drug dog (as happened to me). As far as I know however, they don't have to tell you that. I only learned about it in this thread.", "MFers would rather drop a \"but why is he driving with cash\" rather than \"civil forfeiture is bad\". No wonder nothing changes.", "Please tell me what exactly is so great about Crypto other than it being an opportunity to make money for yourself.", "Didn't watch the video but a car full of cash must look pretty sus. I'm sure if it's legit he'll get it back.", "9 times I thought?", "I yamcha'd you into a crater with that one", "International airports count as borders too.", "so many, you should link one", "Unfortunate truth I’ve experienced is that it only works when everyone is white. Not talking to cops always worked until I started going on road trips with friends who were poc. All but one time we’ve been pulled over and cops will repeatedly lie + provoke if you don’t talk. \n\nOne time I remember a cop splitting us up and then lying to me that he saw weed on the floor (none of us smoke). \n\nAnother time the very first thing they said was “one of you is going to jail today”. We were going 2mph over the limit.", "> Prisoners lose the right to vote.\n\nUSA has a really twisted view on criminals, people who have done something wrong and broken the law is still a part of society and should have the right vote like everyone else.", "This isn't the Government stealing (technically it is). This money won't be used towards streets, schools, welfare programs, festivals, parks, etc... It's just pig stealing your money. The department gives a bonus and gets bigger budget that year. So it's not the government but the corrupt police force.", "The comment above yours does not appear to be underrated.\n\nWe would like to thank you for your vigilance and encourage you to continue rating comments.", "That’s great and all but I’m not going to do conversions to USD to pay my mortgage. Crypto is still very inconvenient for real world applications", "This is the dumbest fucking comment I've ever read", "Only supreme court says it is...\n\nSupreme court is corrupt", "When it comes to cash always be wary of thieves and cops, not necessarily in that order.", "Reagan did just absolutely love trafficking drug money as president.", "Well, we'll see how smart you are when the K9 comes..", "Vegas, not even once", "This is great when the bad guy loses. But oftentimes the bad guy lies and is therefore more likely to win cases. Not to mention bad people are more likely to have more money because they're more aggressive and thus are more likely to throw others under the bus. So this would just make it less likely for people in the right to sue because it's a gamble whether the judge will like you or the bad guy (same reason I didn't sue the tow truck guy when he broke my grille, and why I didn't sue the landlord when they withheld my deposit for bogus charges).", "Its the whole government. If its not someone with a badge, its someone with local power over what you can do to your house, or if you need a permission to cut peoples hair.", "I hate when people say that. Saying he should give up his right to undue search and seizure because he has nothing to hide is like saying he should give up his right to free speech because he has nothing to say.", "Especially if the regular civilian is a minority. \n\nAny cash a black person has must be related to drug deals right? /s", "Lol", "She advocates for a bank bail in that will take 15% to 20% of your assets in the bank and give it to the bank, you will not get it back. She advocates for hyperinflate to pay for welfare and high taxes to keep inflation down, meaning you will not own a car or home. You will rent your clothes and will have a flat for 8 hours a day under that system. You are not financially literate are you?", "I'm trying to say normal people who intend to abide by the law don't carry ALL of their money around with them at once.\n\nPeople usually only do that when they're trying to dodge taxes and/or embezzle money.", "Yes there should be cops that arrest cops. \n\nFunny how that works in every other developed country", "Man, America fucking sucks. Who would ever want to go to that shithole", "Actual legitimate highway robbery caught on camera.\n\nAmerica is in a seriously dark place", "I agree with reform but the \"old generation\" are the last of the grandmas / grandpas taking care of the children of the baby mommas and the philandering men who aren't fulfilling their parental obligations. It's gonna get a whole lot worse without them around.", "They're the same picture.", "Fucking scum, how is that legal", "It is corrupt cops.\n\nIts legal because of corrupt supreme court", "I have $10K+ in precious metals bought from crypto profits. But hey dude, you do you. Someone has gotta be poor, and its better not being one of them.", "Don't talk to the police, don't consent to anything they ask other than providing your name and license/registration.", "What do you think follows the overturning of a free and fair election in the US? You think everyone just shrugs their shoulders and says \"eh, okay, I guess Trump is still president\" like it's fine?", "So... did the guy get his money back?\n\nMan, timeless words, but, \"Fuck the po-lice\".", "Stormtroopers or cops? Is there a difference?", "Since cops could profit from it.", "and not giving permission could be a sign that something's wrong, which gives the cop suspicion, which is all he needs.", "Happened to my college roommate. We went to school in IL, and he was from CO and drove a beater. Guess who got pulled over in three different times in two different states and was let off with just a warning each time?\n\nFunny part is that in the last place he got pulled over, one of the cops saw the college's logo on his rear window. He recognized it, asked if he went to our (religious and dry) school, then turned around and muttered \"shit.\"", "Of course by all means charge these fuckers. But as a rule of thumb, try not to carry so much hard cash around. There are more than just crooked cops that can take it from you.", "Aka corrupt cops...", "Spoiler, it's not just conservatives that think that way.", "Friend of mine is going through a legal case right now. It’s been 18 months so far without a trial. During this time he hasn’t been allowed to leave the state, had his guns taken away, is prohibited from consuming alcohol, and lost a job. Next court date is in a month and his lawyer said to expect another continuance. Utterly ridiculous.", "Abolish cops as we know them, yes. And replace with a better system", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE", ">Braver than any cop\n\nYup, totally", ">Eta: specifically in Canada where I am most familiar with the law (not a lawyer), civil forfeiture is only an option after a person is convicted.\n\nThat's not true: \"No province requires that individuals whose property is targeted by civil forfeiture proceedings be convicted of or even be charged with committing an illegal act.\"\n\n[https://www.canadianjusticereviewboard.ca/reports-papers/civil-forfeiture-in-canada](https://www.canadianjusticereviewboard.ca/reports-papers/civil-forfeiture-in-canada#:~:text=No%20province%20requires%20that%20individuals%20whose%20property%20is%20targeted%20by%20civil%20forfeiture%20proceedings%20be%20convicted%20of%20or%20even%20be%20charged%20with%20committing%20an%20illegal%20act)\n\nAt least we still hold a hearing before the property is taken though.", "The first and second are meant to protect the rest.", "> They are using federally approved means to take capital out of the hands of the working class and return it to the oligarchs that make sure the police face no accountability and damn near infinite funding\n\nThis seems like definition of corrupt", "Bush sucks. Trump sucks. Both are bottom of the barrel. That you are working so hard to make trump look good by comparing him to Bush is evidence enough that he's an orange pile of shit", "Not gonna happen, it would hurt the party of the current president too much.", "Plenty of people are not poor and not in crypto. I guess it’s hard for your smooth ass brain to comprehend.", "The breathalyzer is what I’m referring as one of the tests at the actual testing site. The portable breath tests used on the side of the road are no more accurate than what you can buy at sharper image and give false positives, false negatives, and reading that are very different than calibrated machines on a regular basis. I would never advise anyone to blow into one unless they owned it and it was for fun with no LEO present.", "Hi", "I remember when Americans used to mock the way people had to pay small cash bribes to cops in places like Mexico. \n\nWell in 2021 America they just take your entire life savings and tell you to sue em if you want it back. Fuck a $100 bribe. they want everything.", "Cops decide all the time what they enforce.\n\nBehaving like this makes them corrupt, doesnt mean the system itself isnt corrupt", "If he was really running drug money, wouldn't they do more than just give him a receipt and a point of contact? Like the money is ill gotten and must be seized but the guy running it, meh. It just seems more obvious that they're there to seize his money vs actually try to stop whatever crime they suspect him of (drug money smuggling?)", "Does anyone else watch this and end up feeling like the worlds just fucked if this is the kind of shit we consider to be \"legal\"?", "Banks will also lock your funds and say you can only have $3000 withdrawn. Or will tell the FBI to look into you if you deposit over $10,000 and they don't like you.", "Yes there absolutely is, if the combined sum of money in your vehicle is more than $10k, the police will claim it has been undeclared money brought into the US and seize it. If you do not have a customs declaration form they can (and absolutely are incentivized to) declare a civil asset forfeiture. That's why all customs forms always ask specifically if you're carrying >10k.\n\nI had this happen to an Uncle, was carrying cash from his restaurant to deposit and was stopped miles away from a border crossing to Canada in Detroit (and hadn't even crossed the border). Immediate civil asset forfeiture for not having a customs declaration, cost him $1200 in legal fees to get it back.\n\nAnd before you claim anecdote, this is a well known issue, just Google \"why not to carry more than\" and let google autocomplete for you. On top of that, depositing or withdrawing more than $10k in a single transaction gets you a nice CTR reported to the treasury crime enforcement network.\n\nI'm not saying the system isn't broken or that it shouldn't be this way, but this is how it is, and you can either comply or deal with the consequences.", "Fucking piece of shit bandits. That was a robbery.", "\"I dont trust banks\"........ OKEEEEE", "it's awful, and shouldn't happen. but I don't trust banks = I'm an idiot. And play stupid games applies", "they can't even handle the danger for which they sign up. \n\nMy life or yours? They're going to choose their own every time.", "I said \"no\" and they made me wait a half hour while more and more police showed up culminating in them walking the dog around the outside of the car. I assume this is because they didn't need my consent for that.\n\nThe reason I said no is they literally told me they only stopped me because 'A lot of drugs come through this area' and 'they want to make sure everyone is safe' followed by 'do you consent to a search'. I did nothing, nothing at all, and they admitted it.", "America", "And that's why you never talk to police and never give them permission to search anything, even if you're innocent... Especially if you're innocent.", "Fuck The Police", "Unfortunately he probably won't get it back. Civil Forfeiture laws allow police to take cash and real estate with impunity", "It's like people think a bunch of paper with dead president's faces on it has any intrinsic value. If FDIC fails, well good fucking luck with your money buying anything, the world economy just collapsed and you're better off owning cans of beans.", "Don’t bring the rest of the world into this.", "True, or they could just be working at a marijuana dispensary. It’s bullshit for sure. I’ve never personally seen the line you see on here work (am I being detained/no you cannot search/etc.) and I’ve been pulled over quite a few times as a passenger where the driver tried it. I guess you should say it all either way though because either you’re legit and you piss them off and waste their time or you got nothing to lose and maybe it’ll work.", "Fuck I hate this country", "You Scots are a contentious lot.", "Hide it in your spare tire area. I doubt they actually check.", "I would love to be present when someone delivered that, new bucket list item lol", "Land of the free bwahahahahah", "No I said you're an idiot that doesn't know history and you just parrot anything that you read off of Reddit.", "Should of shut the fuck up when cops ask questions.", "A live action biopic of Chris Dorner?", "Lol. Pinnacle of leftist propoganda? What a silly thing to say.\n\nhttps://mediabiasfactcheck.com/washington-post/", "I’m not good at posting things on Reddit but someone needs to get this comment to the front page. Call it whatever name you want but bottom line it was theft.", "All the governments want is to control us by the way.", "Ah the classic misdirect.", "'He's driving under the speed limit, which is odd. Let's pull him over. See if he's OK' Give me a fucking break.", "He was pulled over for following too closely AND going under the speed limit? At the same time? Huh?", "It's not an all or nothing scenario. You don't need to put every single cent into bitcoin to the extent that you can't even pay your mortgage. In this scenario if the guy had his 87k (or like 80-90% of it) in bitcoin rather than physical cash, he would have happily went on his way. Traveling with such amounts of cash is extremely unsafe even without taking into account cops who will rob you at every opportunity. \n\nMy point is even though you can't pay your mortgage with it, bitcoin's definitely a pretty good way to avoid being robbed when you gotta take large amounts of currency with you abroad or out of state.", "Death, taxes and fuck the police.", "Real question because I don’t need the warriors chiming in. Can he not go claim the money proving he’s not doing anything illegal?", "It's insured until it isn't. And the bank is profiting off of it. And the government has access to it if they ever choose. Fuck banks.", "That’s exactly why they’re worried about it.", "Because in their tiny minds, \"they deserve it, otherwise why would the police do it\". Until it happens to them and suddenly it's an abuse to their rights.", "They obviously aren't being used.", "seething", "I think we just witnessed the far left and far right agreeing on something in the US. Anyone ever seen this before?", "I would rather not have to hide the money from my legit business, just trying to drive to the next convention. You are way to adjusted to this absolute nightmare. Cops shouldn't be robbing people.", "Over the limit/under the limit… straight to jail! You see how that works.", "In every one of your shit examples the police have probable cause for the citation / pull over. The police have already seen or heard a violation of the law in a public space before deciding to pull the person over. \n\nHow do you not understand the difference between that and a random smog test? Do you also support NY's former \"stop and frisk\" policy? Because it's the same damn thing.", "PG as in Prince George's?", "I thought it was the crazy amount of taxes England was taking. Taxes for anything and everything without a say.", "This is how they created the legal theft. The money cannot defend itself, it has no voice, so we just throw down a quick bill, and bam, more money for the government to buy mrap's for their police to kill black people.", "Police tend to believe what they're doing is good and righteous, even as they are actively ruining someone's life. Just think about all the police out there who have arrested people solely for marijuana. The most harmless drug out there basically. The amount of prison time, fines, and jobs lost all cause police will happily enforce bullshit like marijuana being illegal. \n\nIf I was asked by my boss to fuck over one individual, for my job, I'd quit that fucking job. But these cops continue to do it because in their mind \"they're just enforcing the law\" or \"they're just following orders\"", "При Сталине такой хуйни не было!", "I guess you could argue that the government taking your money is stopping you from your right to exercise free speech.", "My question is, why do police get ANY cut of the things they seize? \nCan you imagine if doctors needed an “incentive” like that to prescribe medication…oh wait", "delusional if you think we were one step from civil war lol", "You know you're in the right when you have to resort to insults", "This happened to me. Cop pulled me over and claimed I exited the highway at 75mph (off a cloverleaf exit. I would have spun out of control. I drive a Ford not a Ferrari). And when he asked how fast I was going, I gave him an estimated range because I wasn't staring at my speedometer when he lit me up. He ended up giving me a \"failure to pay full time and attention\" citation because he knew damn well he made up his probable cause and was fishing for DUIs. Fuck FCPD", "It's both.", "Uh, where? Gangs are older than America.", "Go on... When they say \"no yoy day ok have a nice day\", what happens next?", "I think that’s more of a Libertarian philosophy instead of a right wing/conservative one.", "Good faith doesn't help prosecutors and politicians during re-election campaigns.\n\nTherefore, their voice has value, yours has none. Scumbag peasant, just keep voting so I can do what I want - Pretty much ALL of them.", "How about how every one who askes for their lawyer's painted in the worst light.", "It’s YOUR PROPERTY. \n\nGet a warrant if you want to illegally stop me and search my property.", "I believe it is referred to in Canada as the Jordan ruling, where there is a indeed a hard timeline set from time of arrest to the completion of trial is 18 months for provincial offences and 30 months for federal offenses. Most of the time in courts the sneaky prosecutors will try to get you to waive your rights (11b in Canada) which is our right to a fair and speedy trial. Never waive your 11b rights, EVER! NEVER NEVER NEVER!", "Yup.", "One stops counting after a handful of bullets.", "This particularly relates to the fourth amendment.", "Most likely its a cash sniffer dog, trained to respond to cash so they can steal it.", "Because you'd think wanna military people would worship the people they wanna be.", "At least they're not quartering troops in our homes, right? The third amendment stands strong!", "I get your point. I think the big lesson is don’t carry large sums of cash on you", "Alluring doesn't mean what you think it means, lol.", "You see, the part where you label one side responsible and turn your blind eye to the other.\n\nIs where you failed to learn anything. You're ok with the process, as long as your side does it.\n\nYou should be pissed at the process no matter WHO does it, because its fucking wrong, and illegal.", "Bit extreme\n\nCould have begun with acknowledging that while it's legal in some places, that's by no means the norm and we should not be letting up on the gas pedal of the legalization movement", "You tell them youre going to go now", "I can’t believe Americans let the police steal their money. Like right in front of your face, broad daylight on the side of the road and you have to behave or be taken to jail.", "Yeah meant alluding but thanks for letting me know.", "So I refused the search and they asked me to wait anyway and didn't answer when I asked if I could leave. I'm pretty sure I even asked 'am I being detained' and they said no, but refused to answer when I asked if I could leave. I figured I probably had the right to leave(turns out I was right) but I wasn't 100% certain and I didnt want to be 'fleeing from police' if I was wrong. So, despite the fact that they can't make me wait, they did anyway.", "Depending on the circumstance it potentially could be dangerous. If a truck in front of me is going the minimum speed limit (let's say 50) and I'm driving 3 feet behind the truck while going 49 and refusing to pass then that could indeed be a reason to pull me over. I've driven I-80 in Northern Nevada and it is a long stretch of nothing and it's typically very easy to pass. According to the cop this guy would have had to have been tailgating a truck at dangerously low speeds and refusing to pass. Possible but unlikely in my opinion. A good lawyer could probably fight that in court and if the court rules that there wasn't sufficient reason for the traffic AND the driver doesn't consent to the search then anything found would be considered illegally obtained evidence which would be inadmissible in court.\n\nEdit: Based on looking at the footage again it seems unlikely that there was sufficient reason to pull him over. Driving under the speed limit isn't illegal unless it is dangerously slow and the car that was pulled over had just passed a truck which suggests that if anyone was driving dangerously slow it was the truck and not the car. The cop asserts in the clip that the car had left less than one second of stopping distance. This MIGHT be true but based on the video it looks like there is more than 1 second of stopping distance although we don't quite know the speeds so it's possible there isn't.", "Oh sweet summer child.\n\nBut no, seriously, many don't. MANY. The number of hoops you have to jump through and the disruption of your life trying to fight the bullshit makes it nearly impossible for many people. And even when you do everything right, the courts can just ..... do nothing.\n\nAnd even if you get the courts to do their job and you win, you still have to actually get possession back.\n\nA story from about a decade ago was a man had $40,000 cash to go buy some barn-find hot rods. Gets pinched by the police. Dude had emails from the owner he was going to go meet, bank statements and receipts, everything.\n\nCops pointedly told him \"If you don't abandon that money and drive away now, I'm going to arrest you for interfering with a police investigation.\"\n\nHe fought and fought and fought. Won in court after a few years. His lawyer went to secure possession and picked up..\n\n$3750 cash.\n\nLawyer checks the evidence logs. $3750 secured.\n\nMore lawsuits and fighting. Cop even testified that \"I don't believe it was anywhere near $40,000. I know what money looks like and there just didn't seem to be that much.\" or something to that effect.\n\nGuess what color of people are most impacted by Civil Forfeiture. I'll give you a hint; it's not the pale ones.", "Why does it matter that he was a veteran? Makes it sound like if it was a non-military civilian then it wouldn’t matter. This is fucked up on a human level.", "I agree where I live in the US everyone goes 5 to 10 mph over the speed limit and I have not been pulled over in almost 20 years. And this being a half Mexican in a very white area. Same with guns I can’t remember the last time I have seen one in public not on a police officer. Reddit really dose jump on things that don’t really happen that much in the US.", "its not entirely wrong, but what it says about the democratic party isn't postive", "You must be on some powerful mind-altering drugs.", "My guy.. in both instances they were English (if we don’t count foreign mercenaries).\n\nWe weren’t even “Americans” until like post WWII.\n\nEdit: before we were known as States men, United States men, Unionists etc.\n\nWe started referring to ourselves as Americans mid 20th century.", "Shit like this is why I don't go to the US anymore.\n\nBetween your corrupt politics, your out of control religious charlatans, your fucked up health care system and all the guns... you're basically a 3rd world country at this point.", "Banks, they work , they are insured, they keep your cash out of the hands of highwaymen like these.", "That's fucking disgusting my dude.", "Fun joke but if you get arrested for swearing at a cop you can sue them for wrongful arrest because there's no law saying you can't swear at cops.", "Yeah no doubt. Leave when they tell you to stay is how you end up like that wheelchair guy who got shot dead.", "Conservative? Conservative of their bullshit, maybe, but the way we've seen them reinterpret the constitution leads me to think they're not actually conservative, just as they're not actually progressive. They're opportunistic authoritarians.", ">...but men getting tortured by other mentally unstable men caused often times by their inhumane conditions, is funny. \n> \n>Not a left/right thing, its a human vs monsters thing.\n\nYeah, and you're one of the 'monsters'. So people in prison cause the inhumane conditions? They are responding to the shit/inhumane treatment which causes them to regress to a survival mode (animal instinct) to be cruel/savage in order to survive terrible conditions caused/enforced by corrupt prison systems/corrupt prison officials. Treat them like humans and they just might act like humans. (not all of course there will always be exceptions to the rule). The system needs to be vastly overhauled to create a JUSTice system.", "\"You can tell they're trying to hide their guilt by looking so innocent!\"", "Yes. I'm aware. To my understanding, he wasn't pulled over for being \"too intoxicated\". They charged him for it after the initial reason, which was some stupid \"fix it\" issue, and then threw the book at him.", "It's messed up. Till about 50 years ago, it was normal to keep large amounts of cash. \n\nNow people act like cash is bad or it has to come from an illegal source. \n\nCivil forfeiture Goes directly against the constitution.", "Yes joy day okay then bye me go now", "The only time someone bitches about the 4th Amendment is when they are really complaining about the 2nd Amendment. \n\n\nAmerica's a land of people obsessed with the rights of guns instead of the rights of people.", "Yeah, fuck Jeff Bezos", "It’s in the vid at the end. After 6 months of them keeping his money he had to sue to get it back.", "Where does she say that", "Thsi shakes me with rage. He should be owed the highest available interest rate on the money as well as having it returned. The war on drugs really let a whole generation give away all their freedom while they continue to chant that's what anyone pushing back is doing. This country is broken.", "He could have asked but they can’t search your car without your permission without probably cause. So unless your car smelled like weed they can go fuck themselves. Always start recording anytime you get pulled over. Preferably on the ACLU app or something like a love story on Facebook or Instagram so they can't delete the video.", "They're not corrupt thats just how cops are, civil forfeiture is a real thing. They just charge your money with a crime and take it all.", "Lol that cop basically agrees with the guy and then says it’s suspicious minutes later. What a guy", ">This is because the assets or property, not actual individuals, are being sued in these actions.\n\nWow. Sue the car to seize the car. What a concept.", "Personally, i would've been shot and it woulda ended right there for me", "Oof. That’s pretty rough. Thanks for the info.", "fucking pricks. with receipts too. They used a dumb fucking dog to steal his money.", "yes but innumder 36 hours does not meet the need for cash in hand now. The whole question was where can I go to get fiat for brc in real time.", "I don't answer questions, AND SHUT THE FUCK UP.\n\nIt might be a meme, but its true.", "YTD BTC has a 195% growth. So what in your investment portfolio did that? Why are people investing in BTC rather than Treasuries this time around for financial collapse?\n\n\\-1st Biden is a Great Resetter. He's putting deliberate policies to make energy extremely expensive for carbon.\n\n\\-2nd The USD place as the reserve currency is 100% based on oil. If you buy oil its bought in petrodollars. Iraq tried to use the Euro and was destroyed by the US military. Libya tried to create a gold back North African currency and was destroyed by the US military. Biden is deliberately destroying relations with OPEC nations to remove the petro dollar.\n\n\\-3rd Nigeria and Saudi Arabia have signed defense pacts with Russia, have bought Russian military technology and are training with Russian troops. This is just the beginning of OPEC nations moving away from the US for defense. Once they have Russian ships, planes and missiles, they will switch to the Ruble, RMB and Euro for oil.\n\nIf the US didn't vote in an idiot Great Resetter we would not be facing hyperinflation and losing reserve currency status, but we did so its coming. How are you so financially illiterate to be against one asset class in your financial basket to protect you? If you have all your money in the banks, pull it out, they are going to do a Bank Bail in during Biden's term you'll lose 15% to 20% of what you have in the bank.", "Cops are such pieces of shit.", "The problem is that its easy for the speech/gun doomsayers to point to \"big govt\" as the boogeyman with the 1st and 2nd amendments but situations like this involve making a bad guy out of the police which would create a singularity that would implode in on itswlf in the minds of this demo... so its easier to ignore until it happens to them.", "2 weeks or bail is automatically set to $0.", "Police unions and those in staunch political support of CAF are almost entirely conservative so I'm not sure why your both sides shit is coming up here.", "I've never seen a single person hoping someone caught growing marijuana, and only that, illegally, who was sentenced to prison, that they get raped. \n\nNot once.\n\nYou are not helping your argument at all by being so disingenuous.", "Honestly, at the risk of sounding cold and uncaring (which is not the case at all FTR), that idiot lost all my sympathy when he basically bragged to a cop about having over $10K in cash on him then immediately gave the cop permission to search his vehicle! People need to start learning that the cops aren’t your friends, and whether that be the easy or the hard way is completely their choice! If anything, they’re the opposite! Never answer questions and you never give a cop permission to search your car! If they had reasonable cause to search your car, they wouldn’t be asking! So if a cop is asking, the answer should always be no, then go right back to continuing to STFU!", "This is another great case that proves that talking to the police and consenting to search even when you haven't done anything wrong will still end up badly for you.", "NEVER travel with cash in the US unless you have a lockbox or safe-like device in your vehicle, which requires a warrant to open.", "Oh, it almost never happens to tourists. Now I feel safe. /s", "Who needs thieves when we have police.", "I mean, if there's a danger, I'm going to try to adjust for it. Some might call it victim blaming, I call it being defensive. \n\n\nLike if I have to walk in a city alone, I'm going to put all but $10 in my sock. I mean, I'm not going to carry more than $10 to begin with. But if for some crazy reason I'm carrying over $10, the rest goes hidden. \n\n\nSo when I get mugged, I only lose $10. Normally I'd keep less, but I worry that the mugger will be a cunt and attack me because \"ay yo why's you only gives me $5 poor as mutherfucker piece of shiiiie\". \n\nIt would also be smart to only keep one credit card on me and hide that as well and just keep a decoy wallet with fake business cards in case I get robbed, but I don't think I have that kind of preparedness.", "If he won the case to get the money returned does the losing party have to pay all the court fees etc ?", " ___ ____\n / \| / / /\n / /\| \| / / / \n / ___ \|/ / / \n /_/ \|_/_/_/ \n \n ______ \n / ____/___ ____ _____\n / / / __ \\/ __ \\/ ___/\n / /___/ /_/ / /_/ (__ ) \n \\____/\\____/ .___/____/ \n /_/ \n ___ \n / \| ________ \n / /\| \| / ___/ _ \\\n / ___ \|/ / / __/\n /_/ \|_/_/ \\___/ \n \n ____ __ __ \n / __ )____ ______/ /_____ __________/ /____\n / __ / __ `/ ___/ __/ __ `/ ___/ __ / ___/\n / /_/ / /_/ (__ ) /_/ /_/ / / / /_/ (__ ) \n /_____/\\__,_/____/\\__/\\__,_/_/ \\__,_/____/", "Man, so much about the US is completely fucked. Not a day goes by on reddit where some kind of reddit post shows police-overreach/political-scam/religous-zealotry/mass-shooting/medical-price-gouging/racism/workplace-injustice or plain stupidity at a level basically unheard of in the rest of the western world.", "He sued and got his money back after like 9 months. Lawsuit still pending I believe", "What IS the definition of IS.\n\nWe are truly fucked as a country, and part of me wishes for a nuke to just wipe us out.", "speedy trial is absolutely dead. there is a man in my hometown (Matthew Baker) who was arrested as the accomplice of a crime someone else committed. Jacob Kosky, the perpetrator, pleaded guilty (he is very mentally ill) and one of the conditions of him pleading guilty was he was promised his “accomplice” (who they have no evidence was actually involved) would be let go. he said something to the effect of, the guy had no idea what i was going to do, was in the wrong place at the wrong time and doesn’t deserve to go down for what i did. \nthat was in 2016. Matthew Baker is still to this day being held without trial. FIVE YEARS so far, all for being at a party where a crime occurred. he was the only black person there.", "That's why I worry about the first and second.", "If it helps to get people to agree it is bad, we should take it as a win. Not to say I don’t heartily agree with you.", "Look into who was pivotal in expanding civil asset forfeiture into what we know it as, today.", "I mean if you are going to be pulled over regardless you might as well make it for a good reason right?", "Thanks Biden", "I feel like a birds law interpretation of Citizens United where money is indeed a person via aforementioned case precedent on first amendment rights and liberal application of corporate personhood… would go good here.", ">Everyone needs to watch this at least one time...\n\n...per Friday", "Curfews only exist to give police an excuse to use violence against peaceful people.", "We’re going to need a shitload of dimes.", "Fair enough. But can you tell me where you can leave your money in a depreciating asset that has lost at least 13% of its value since January 2021? Why would you leave your money in a depreciating asset that you know will have significant less value in 2022 because you can't wait a day and a half to get liquidity and get a 50% return on investment?\n\nI'm trying to understand your financial reasoning to lose 13% each year of your money because you can't handle a day and a half. Do you have problems with short term planning or are you impulsive in your spending?", "Just a pleasant reminder, always [STFU](https://youtu.be/V6tfEZI54Jg)", "We torture people because of the terror war and we rob people because of the drug war. Maybe we'll start a war on animal cruelty and start blowing up animal shelters.", "At the dip of course ....", "Ask the average American how many amendments there are... How many are in the Bill of Rights... Or heck, any amendment after the first and second.......", "Shouldn't you be using the First and Second to get the others back?", "r/iamamassiveasshole", "'Merica", "Shoves money all into crypto assets. Can't take what you can't see.", "Who said anything about that? I'm just referencing the coup attempt by Trump, which the person I responded to didn't think was close to succeeding. Hopefully, they know better now.", "You say that like NORML hasn't been around for ages pushing for it. It's not the people keeping it illegal. People freak out about it being illegal because it's illegal, and \"the man\" can obliterate your world over it.", "So now everyone knows this guy keeps $100k cash on him?\n\nAlso, it must be awful to feel that helpless.", "Civil Asset Forfeiture. Cops steal more from Americans than all home invasions combined each year. \n\nhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_forfeiture_in_the_United_States", ">The only rights you have are the ones you can afford to buy.\n\nthis is the american way. \n\nshit, even teeth are only for those who can afford them now.", "> Boot lickers lean to a side.\n\n_Laughs in 1994 crime bill that created this situation to begin with_", "America as a country still feel very guilty about how they treated veterans during/after Vietnam (not to mention how crappy they treat their current military personnel) so even now they put more value in a veterans life and rights than a \"normal\" person. Not the veterans fault, just a cultural thing.", ">Fuck the Oligarchs, Fuck the Police. Not a left/right thing, its a human vs monsters thing.\n\nAbsolutely true. Like so many socioeconomic traps it affects anyone caught in the system no matter your political orientation. That should mean it's easier to solve but nobody on any side of politics seems to be taking it seriously, at least in the US.", "\"Suspect was not driving like they wanted to suck my dick, very suspicious\"", "They definitely don't teach world history or anything here....", "Most likely significantly more in the long run than your dollar. BTC is up 295% in the last year due to inflation of the dollar. Have you not done currency investing before? When you buy outside currency it also fluctuates against the dollar as well. Sometimes you'll make a lot and sometimes you'll lose your home, ask the Turkey Lira as of this week.\n\nYou write like investing in currency outside of the US is evil, its not. Its been done for quite some time.", "Keep it real, ANUS_FACTS_BOT 🤜🤛", "Oh people care, just not white supremacists, and they're the only voices that the news media platforms.", "LOL, cops DGAF about the supreme court or your constitutional rights. \n\nThe case in question for the uninitiated: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodriguez_v._United_States", "\n>He had me step out of the car and perform field sobriety test, a few of which I failed because I was nervous I guess.\n\nDepending on your state, you don't have to consent to those.", "Guarantee you it wasn’t his first, or there was a horrible accident involving loss of life and gross negligence. (Yes, I am a lawyer whose defended dozens of DWI cases).", "no, aka just police \n\ncorruption means something aberrant and illegal, not just the core nature of the thing itself\n\nthe rapists that make the news aren't the \"corrupt rapists\"; they're just rapists – raping is what a rapist does; it is not aberrant behavior, for a rapist", "I'm visiting family in Phoenix. I've lived in rural Alaska for the last seven years. There's really no need to speed up there, it doesn't get you anywhere faster and in the winter (almost six months) it's incredibly reckless. So I've mellowed out and at most do like 3 over the limit?\n\nGet to Phoenix, try going the speed limit, and I start feeling like a stone in a raging river. The flow of traffic is constantly coming up on my bumper and splitting right and left, passing me by. I legit was the only person not doing 10 over, and most were doing 15-20. I eventually said fuck it and just went with the flow because I felt like I was A. Going to cause an accident and B. Looking suspicious af to any cops.\n\nSo I have to break the law to not get pulled over, but if a cop gets it in their head to pull me over for any reason you can bet your ass they'll tack on a speeding ticket on top.\n\nI'm white however so I might... Might not get shot. Maybe.", "Police officers, absolutely. Vets? That's in your imagination my man. People have problems with the industrialized military complex and the war mongering of the top brass, but no one puts that on the soldiers.", "Guilty until proven innocent... Sounds about right.", "Always refuse field sobriety tests. There is no science in it. Breathalyzer or blood test only.", "Which case is this? I thought it was Byrd vs United States, but that doesn’t match the cited details.", "ah that's awesome and very reassuring", "Are police required to wear body cams in those places? How do you know these rules are being enforced?", "Cops are a gang", "Modern Highwaymen", "Please share your story, for insight", "Do you mind elaborating on this fallacy I’ve never heard of it but the name makes me think I’ve encountered it before.", "We also require cops to wear body cams and audio recorders.", "It is a search and you’re doing gymnastics to try and make it not one.", "DAE LAND OF THE FREE???", "ok", ">Everyone worries about losing the First and/or Second Amendments, but the Due Process (Fifth and Fourteenth) and Right to a Speedy Trial (Sixth) are already dead in the US, and almost nobody cares.\n\n\nWell it's a good thing they charge your property as guilty until proven innocent since it is a thing and doesn't have those rights!", "No, I've seen too many exchanges succumb to fraud and corruption and understand the underlying flaws of crypto. You are free to do with your money what you want, I do see how what I do with mine should be any concern to you.", "Wow. Cringe.", "They can ask anything, it's considered their first amendment right. You need to be the one educated on the limits of their official power.", "Yeah thats the most asinine thing you could do when it comes to these crooked cops.", "Fuck civil forfeiture. \n\nThis is one of those laws that’s so egregiously used in comparison to what the actual text states. It preys on the poor just like the cash bail system does. All to pad those budgets.", "In the US? In very few places they’re made to. And even then they have the ability to turn on and off both audio and video at any time.", "No one is trying to make trump look good. I’m trying to make everyone understand trump is no where nearly the level of historical bad and dangerous bush was and history shouldn’t be whitewashed", "they need to make it right, both of thsoe cops need to be forced to give that poor man THEIR life savings, maybe they will feel what it's like then to lose all their stuff. But in this case it would be different, they stole from an innocent man, if they lost their life savings a couple of theives would just be getting what they deserve", "What's a child you are.", "What I got out of this video (and similar ones) is that if I ever visit the U.S. that I shouldn't have a lot of cash on me.\n\nNot that I ever would, but it's good to know. \n\nI'm surprised there doesn't seem to be a movement to try to put an end to this sort of thing. Or is there? I have never heard any American politicians talk about this as a cause they stand for, but at the same time like I said I'm not American, so maybe it's happening and I just haven't heard about it.", "Never want to hear Americans talk shit about other countries not having freedom again.", "r/boburnham", "This is what happens when you try to cooperate and be respectful of the police - they go back to their car and plot against you with their supervisor.\n\nDont talk. Dont give permission. Dont answer questions. Ask for your citation so you can be on your way. If they write a ticket, sign it and leave. Take it to court if you think it wasn't warranted.\n\nCops work for the opposite team - they are not on your side. Not ever.", "I think it is gross that the same people that get to decide if something is seized, profit off of the seizure.\n\nI can understand the intention of the law, but it is clearly an undue erosion of private property rights.", "This is utterly stupid.", "Fourth has been entirely dismantled by the patriot act", "I have an even simpler explanation. It alerted to the smell of money, as it's been trained to do.", "No the fact that you double down when I called you out and said you're wrong told me you're an idiot and just parrot things you read off of Reddit.", "The 9th was to the head, not the back.", "I'm sorry you're a moron.", "My guy.. England is not remotely the same thing as the British empire, and the English civil war was the prelude to a lot of the religious dissent and debate that produced many of the relevant protestant sects. The distinction matters and nobody talking about the English civil war with any familiarity would think it meant anything other than that in the c17th.\n\nEdited a word", "My BIL was driving one day and was in the left lane trying to pass a string of semis. A cop came zooming up behind him and then started tailgating him. My BIL was pretty much at the end of the line of semi trucks and didn’t have much room to get over so he sped up to pass the last truck and then pulled right over and into the right lane and slowed back down. Didn’t matter, cop pulled him over for “speeding” and thought it was “suspicious” that he would try to get out of a speeding, tailgating cops way. The cop asked to search the car but my BIL said no. Luckily this cop let it go, but he was fortunate and a lot of people aren’t.", "What exactly have I doubled down on?", "You did the right thing. Some of them will try and make your life more difficult as a result but there is no benefit in cooperating with them.", "Now you're getting it. I won't go to the US, firstly because I can't justify attending a place that can be so horrible to its citizens, secondly because the risk of anything occurring while I am there, however small, is too much to put myself or my family through. If you can be shot by a police officer after calling them and meeting them in your pyjamas, or shot by a random with a gun they shouldn't have, or fucked over by medical bills, there is no reason to visit.", "There are some circumstances when it's legally appropriate, but virtually 100% of the abuse could be taken care of by saying that police officers are simply not permitted to exercise any kind of civil forfeiture on the side of the road, or in the field at all more generally.\n\nThe cases where a civil forfeiture is appropriate There is almost by definition no emergency and a lawyer could go to court and ask a judge to sign an order allowing them to seize the property first. \n\nThat typically happens when the police find property connected to some sort of illegal operation but no one will claim ownership of it because doing so would be admitting guilt to a crime. A Storage unit full of stolen TVs for example.", "Because the assets are the ones held, they are not persons so they do not get protections under the 4th and 5th.\n\nIts fucky.", "Math can be hard.", "Haha this is so true, im so sick of the power trip of cops these days. Its like if u fail out of every other career out there well at least u can take a weekend course at the Holiday Inn and get certified as law enforcement. \nThey hang so tight onto their laws but dont realize that they apply to them as well.", "You can be arrested for the sole crime of \"resisting arrest\".", "Are you annoyed that feminists aren't doing more to protect men?", "The second amendment does nothing to protect or maintain freedoms. By the time your willing to use it your freedoms will be long gone.\n\nits the free press and votes that protect and maintain freedom.", "And people wonder why people snap. You take everything from someone, and you'll find out a lot of people are capable of some pretty hood rat shit when they have nothing to lose.", "What if I do have literally nothing in my car of value and just want to get things get done?", "That's the truth", "The USA has two right wing parties. The Democrats who pretend to be left wing but are mostly social conservatives who don’t hate gays so much, and the Republicans who are bat-shit fucking insane…social conservatives who do hate gays but pretend they’re mostly cool with them now", "Are a an officer of the law? No? Ok then you are an ordinary citizen who will eventually break the law and may use deadly force against an officer of the law at any given time, without warning. An officer must use deadly force against you preemptively just in case.", "Last time I flew through the U.S. military members and veterans were asked to board first, maybe even before a whole bunch of other groups who would usually go first in other countries. This sort of thing doesn't happen anywhere else that I've travelled.\n\nI also came across a \"Freedom lounge\" for military members (veterans included IIRC) ONLY, right at the airport.\n\nSo.. I am not surprised. Veterans and military members in the U.S. seem to get some preferential treatment here and there, from what I've seen anyway. Maybe it's not as apparent to you since you live there and are so used to it.", "Burglary doesn’t necessarily pertain to stealing. It’s just entry into a building or property with the intent to commit a crime. How about robberies and thefts?", "Pot brothers at law has entered the chat", "You can beat the rap, but you can’t beat the ride.", "Corona donnie is the worst President the united states of America has ever seen. He’s a two times impeached, one term, failed businessman and failed steak salesman, washed up reality tv star who’s wife won’t even touch him in public anymore. He cheats at everything he does, from playing golf, he cheats the very idiots who vote for him and support him, he cheats on his wife, he even cheated the 2020 Presidential election, and STILL LOST. His hands are so tiny, and a direct reflection of the tiny dick energy he gives off every moment of his disgusting, orange life. He is factually speaking the worst President there has ever been. There is no debate. He politicized a deadly pandemic, flat out denied it was real, and is responsible for the death of well over 500K Americans. He is the worst President the United States has ever had. The only thing the orange bastard did was make racists, bigots and just general stupid fucks feel safe voicing there extremely ignorant and disgustingly idiotic opinions.", "Prove me wrong?", "The bigger problem is these cops don’t even seem corrupt. They are a product of the system and that’s even scarier than corruption.", "If they’re so corrupt, why wouldn’t they turn off their body cameras, or not wear them at all?", "Guess who's getting a new margarita machine!!!", "The first amendment is already massively curtailed in the form of libel and slander laws which benefit those wealthy enough to bring suit in civil court, and all intellectual property laws which are entirely capitalist in nature. Nobody even thinks for a moment about howuch of their speech is already limited in the name of other people's commerce and comfort.", "Imagine that. \n\nOutside the ultra rich, cops might be the most privileged class of people that exist, yet they are all crying now that they are victims. It’s fucking disgusting.", "There's plenty of instances of police departments using money seized under civil forfeiture to throw parties for the cops and buy stuff like margarita machines for the office which isn't a big dent compared to their total budget but it still is directly incentivizing officers to seize more often than necessary.", "It’s actually the biggest way the government violates the second amendment and takes guns from citizens. The ATF uses civil forfeiture all the time.", "This guy or gal fucks. Just say no to police especially when you’re doing nothing Wong", "These are all questions that are simple to answer and entirely to get you comfortable with answering more questions, ones that will be geared to getting you to say something that will give them grounds to search your car.", "You're the one making the statement. Prove you right.\n\nThere are 14 legged unicorns in the universe. Prove me wrong. See how that works?", "Useless pieces of greedy pig shit. They need to be sued for every dollar they have and see how they like it when their kids go hungry and they can't even buy a goddamn piece of gum. Fuck em all in the ass with Justice and see how they like the taste of it.", "Criminals dood. Criminals. Wtf is wrong with you? Get off the internet lol", "If you are going 49 behind a truck going 50 … that’s a separating distance of 1 mph. \n\n5280 feet per hour. 88 feet per minute. Around 1.5 feet per second. \nAn average car is around 15 feet. \nWhich means for every 10 seconds, an additional car length is added between you and the car you are following. In a minute, that is 6 additional car lengths. \n\nAt 49 mph using a two-second fair weather rule, a car would need around 142 feet, or around 9 car lengths of following distance. In short, it takes at most 90 seconds for this scenario to result in a safe following distance if the car was initially up against the bumper of the car in front. \n\nFurthermore, it means that at most 3 minutes would be required for you to fit in between these two vehicles with safe following distances for all of you. \nIn short, I don’t see the scenario you posed as dangerous beyond the initial starting positions.", "You dumb stupid fucking numbskull, I purchased a 1971 Dodge Charger with cash for more than that. What a stupid fucking waste of oxygen you are. You probably have to set alerts on your phone to remind your tard ass to breathe", "Happens daily down south but it’s a black guy not a vet so it gets no coverage. Prepare for police to get extra crazy when the marijuana fines that support their city budgets and pay them disappear. A friend I know high up in SC Hwy patrol told me they’re panicking internally on how to fill the budget shortfall because teens getting caught with a gram of weed keeps the courts lights on.", "Don't you just love America's drug laws?\n\nWe need to have tough laws against drugs, or drug addicts will hold you up and steal all your money! We'll take money away from drug lords by seizing it to protect American citizens!\n\nThen the police hold up a U.S. Marine and steal all his money under Civil Asset Forfeiture.", "Not trusting banks isn’t a mistake lmao", "lol.", "Some bullshit about \"smelling alcohol\". \n\nDo you know how much alcohol you'd have to drink for it the scent to be outside your car through the window along the side of a highway?", "Yea I don't think the officer cares about that so much.", "If they have pc then they don't need consent...", "Umm that’s not how this works. I don’t care. Lol you do work you care. I’m not the dumb ass here. Haha", "Corona donnie is the worst President the united states of America has ever seen. He’s a two times impeached, one term, failed businessman and failed steak salesman, washed up reality tv star who’s wife won’t even touch him in public anymore. He cheats at everything he does, from playing golf, he cheats the very idiots who vote for him and support him, he cheats on his wife, he even cheated the 2020 Presidential election, and STILL LOST. His hands are so tiny, and a direct reflection of the tiny dick energy he gives off every moment of his disgusting, orange life. He is, factually speaking, the worst President there has ever been in United States history. There is no debate. He politicized a deadly pandemic, flat out denied it was real, and is responsible for the death of well over 500K Americans. He is the worst President the United States has ever had. The only thing the orange bastard did was make racists, bigots and just general stupid fucks feel safe voicing there extremely ignorant and disgustingly idiotic opinions.", "> storing that kind of money in the bank is free money for you. not to mention, whats not to trust? its federally insured.\n\nYou're also supporting those banks. The ones who got bailouts for fucking around.", "And yet, no one lost money that they had in bank savings or checking accounts in 2008.", "That makes sense thank you", "What I got from this part of the video was they put the cash into a different ziplock bag that they provided. What if that baggie purposely had residue on it they way they plant stuff on people.", ">will have you labeled and punished as a criminal and/or terrorist.\n\nYeah, so you better make sure it's a fight you can win. And therein lies the problem.", "https://imgur.com/a/foo9qiv", "Capitalism isn’t just for Wall Street", "You are asking what you can do with Crypto, I explained it and the return. Do what you want with your money. However hoping on the USD is going to give you a lot of hope and $10/lb hamburger next year.", "FTP!!!!", "Watch the video I posted above. People who have nothing to worry about are some of the most at risk. Don't consent to a search, don't consent to questioning outside of the reason you were stopped.", "You have this weird fixation with Biden pal. You may want to get that checked.", "Yeah my court docs said \"if this isn't filed within a month charges will be dismissed, if we don't start winith 90 days it's voided, etc, etc...\" but then the all important part \"and all this will be up to the discretion of your judge to perform or waive\" and good luck finding a judge who won't suspend those guidelines, even address them at all lol they'll just brush by that part, but it's also not the judges fault the system is ran the way it is, they just perpetuate it.", "Says in another article that he got back the amount taken plus interest.\n\nhttps://thisisreno.com/2021/12/lawsuit-filed-after-nhp-confiscates-mans-life-savings-during-traffic-stop/", "It's been that way for years now. It was introduced as a way to be 'tough on drugs' but whether or not it has any impact on drugs its been used to seize a lot of innocent peoples money. It actually COSTS a lot of money to fight to get your money back, it's insane.\n\nAnd, if you don't think it could happen to you, I was stopped for this exact same scheme. I just didn't have any money to steal. I was stopped for having out of state plates and driving the speed limit, nothing more.", "Land of the cops wearing cameras.", "The fact that your last sentence is true makes me really hopeless. I don’t know how or why this is the case, logic doesn’t seem to matter anymore.", "I have not ONCE seen Civil forfeiture been used properly, and I used to do IT work for 3 different police precincts for about 4 years. Hundreds of THOUSANDS of dollars and just as much contraband and equipment, and police get to keep it. They are not doing it to \"make it safer\" for anyone, they do it to continue to fund themselves so they can buy more tanks.", "There are departments where this was proven to be a deliberate scheme.", "Never talk to the police. Don't volunteer anything.", "Yeah, they just lost their homes due to the fraudulent and garbage mortgages banks handed out like candy. Real trustworthy", "Well at least you convinced yourself", "I mean, it almost never happens period. \n\nBut it's still a really bad thing to happen when it does happen.\n\nHence why it made the news.", "Police unions...conservative....lmao.\n\nOK.\n\nThere ain't a fucking union that's voted predominately that way since Jesus walked this earth bro. You can't have it both ways you know. Conservatives are anti-union, they might be pro-cop, but thats only when the cops are beating up on the black and brown people they don't want fucking their white daughters.\n\nOutside of bumfuck Texas unions are overwhelmingly pro-democrat. Period.", "high fidelity", "they wont answer that question and will continue to be ambiguous, and if you try to just leave you'll get shot", "Yeah, it’s a real cry from what I thought the world was when I was young. I’m never safe because a police officer can basically do whatever they want to most average citizens.", "Yeah, the revolution was more about slavery.\n\nEdit: guys, it was a joke. He had called the revolution a civil war, so I called the civil war a revolution.", "cosmic dharma", "Jesus motherfuck...\n\nHalf a year of NO life savings, no money, AND he had to actually sue the DEA for his money.", "All 50 states allow it", "How is this legal? Who voted for laws that let the state steal your assets?", "Thanks... Biden?", "Yup, totally.", "Solitary is torture too.", "Someone having out of state plates is probable cause to assume they have drugs?", "The seven years' war, not just the small part of it that took place in continental north America (\"french and Indian war\"). America is not always the main character\n\nEdit to add, many historians consider the seven years' war the first actual 'world war', so to view it as having been centered on north America is to misapprehend it", "Moral of the story: don’t carry cash in Nevada. The cops will steal it. It’s no coincidence that they have the most tricked out coffee break rooms in the country.", "not that odd; gotta make free interest on money they had no right having tin the first place", "Jackpot? You mean proceeds of drugs?", "Sad times", "New Mexico started requiring a conviction and proof assets are connected to the crime to be seized. \n\nThey later had to amend the law because Albuquerque police argued that the state ban on civil forfeiture didn't apply to a municipal force and continued seizing automobiles", "I understand the point you're attempting to make. I just don't agree with it. \n\nGo fuck yourself, by the way.", "I literally got pulled over in high school for “looking suspicious”. I’m not even kidding. The cop wouldn’t tell me for 15 minutes what I was “actually” pulled over for, just gave me a whole lecture on how when you’re a cop you get a “sixth sense for this sort of thing” and that when I drove by him I “just had this look about me that made him think I was guilty of something”. \n\nHe then proceeded to interrogate me about where I was going (school) how did he know I wasn’t lying (because it’s 7 am on a Monday and I have my backpack right here, my parking pass on the dash, oh and because you can literally see the high school from here) do I have any drugs, alcohol, cigarettes, any other contraband (no) can he search my car (no, you’re making me late for school) and have I literally ever done anything illegal in my life (I told him if he wanted to arrest me for stealing a cookie from the jar before leaving go ahead and get it over with cuz that’s all I’ve got). \n\nFinally he pointed out one of my taillights was “mostly out” and said he was being generous in “only giving me a warning”.\n\nThe best part about this is I was a 16 year old white girl who barely weighed 100 lb soaking wet and couldn’t hurt a fly. The only thing “suspicious” about me is I drove a shitty car in a wealthy part of town. Oh, and I saw him that Sunday at my family’s church. Gave him a biiiiiggg fuck you smile.", "What are you talking about? I withdraw or spend money from my bank account almost every single day. I've never once had to ask, or even \"ask real nice\" on a good day or even on a bad day.", "https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demonyms_for_the_United_States\n\n\nPeople from the United States increasingly referred to themselves as Americans through the end of the 18th century and the 1795 Treaty of Peace and Amity with the [Barbary States](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbary_States) refers to \"American Citizens\"[[9]](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demonyms_for_the_United_States#cite_note-9) while [George Washington](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Washington) spoke to his people of \"[t]he name of American, which belongs to you in your national capacity\" in his [1796 farewell address](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Washington%27s_Farewell_Address)", "You're confused. The officer asked him what he thought was a large sum of money. The soldier replied with anything over 10k.\n\nIf he refused, the cops would have considered him hostile and found other ways to search his car. If they pulled the dog and found the money in the car, then he could have also been arrested. He was screwed either way.", "That is not how probable cause works. The thing that makes you suspect drugs has to be tangible. Not just I pulled a car over and now I suspect drugs. You have to be able to explain to a judge WHY you suspect them.", "Thanks Biden", "Don’t forget all the tax dollars that went towards these officers salaries, the grossly inflated DEA budget to work cases like this, the civilian man hours.\n\nIt cost Nevada state taxes and federal taxes from everyone to make this happen. It’s an infuriating waste.", "What a shit hole country.", "Literally highway robbery. Blows my mind that this shit is legal. Hope this guy wins millions, and it gets taken out of that department and that Sargent's paycheck.", "It goes against lots of power structures. Cops, Lawyers, prison industrial complex, monopolies like alcohol hate competing brain toys.", "It's people who are behind on taxes. The government can't garnish your mattress.", "You forgot speaking I’ll of the Law Enforcement on reddit. Complaint sent and I am performing a temporary digital citizen’s arrest.", "Or 10 times most likely, the dog has shit training just line the shit cops and is unreliable as fuck, and follow the K9 officer cues to 'alert' on whatever the officer wish to sieze.", "Oh so that makes it okay then. Because Trump……", "Great video! Thanks!", "Amerikkka. the corruption, never ends does it", "No worries, mad respect for this response. Honestly, I expected pushback like always which is why I came off a little like an ass.", "Its almost impossible to go the speed limit on the highway here. If you go the speed limit you will slow down traffic and might get rear ended.", "This is so obviously staged by the troopers.", "Exactly! Fuck Biden for pushing so hard to enact CAF.", "\"Corrupt cops\" a bit redundant", "RemindMe! 30 years\n\nsomething to look back on when they take my house because they read the address wrong", "Dude Pelosi says shes left, she gets support from the left, so explain how she is not left, or how she is not part of the oligarch.", "Prove it in court.", "You’re on Reddit, what were you expecting?", "Link to video or news source? I didn't hear about this incident until now.", "They probably do considering CAF was pushed by the democrats, particularly Biden.", "The US government literally prints money out of thin air. You people are so ignorant", "\"I am the questions here\" - it's all about power.", "> Civil forfeiture, where the government can steal from you without due process\n\nor robbery to everyone else. This would be considered armed robbery if the cop were not a cop. Makes you wonder why there is a disconnect and deep rooted hatred of Police in the USA. Im sure we arent alone, but Id be damned if we didnt win the prize.", "Time to push back against the abuse of gov't officials.", "Probably could have sued them for searching you illegally. Refusing a search isn't probable cause. The whole point of calling in K9 is to get probable cause to search the car. They'd probably win the case though without proof.", "Certainly more brave than the cop who shot a disabled man in a mobility scooter, 8 times in the back and once in head at point blank range to make sure the victim was dead and couldn’t tell his side of the story. Much more brave than the murderer derek “CONVICTED MURDERER” chauvin, who suffocated a man in broad day light in the street over a supposed counterfeit 20 dollar.", "Except they wear body cams.", "And you thought you lived in the land of the free! \nFree cash for cops without due process", "You can't even use the correct form of 'you're' lol", "didn't he die tho", "Love how this is a thread where nobody is slinging insults, and then you have to come in to sling insults. Go play with your blocks, adults are speaking.", "You still do have the right to a speedy trial, however most defendants waive that right to give their lawyer more time to prepare a case.", "Except had he not given permission, he could t be detained any longer for a dog to be brought on scene.", "No, but you see, nobody's Due Process rights are violated here, the government isn't doing anything to the guy who had the money. They're just suing the money itself, which of course makes this totally different and above board...\n\n(Like in that South Park Scientology episode, I feel like I need a [\"This is what the US government actually believes\"](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_rem_jurisdiction) disclaimer banner here.)", "Your dollar isn't worth a dollar from last week though. Inflation is destroying its worth.", "The truly fucked up part about this is there are so many other people on this interstate area (close to Sparks, NV) that on a daily travel well over 90 MPH in a 70 zone. They're the ones causing wrecks but let's pull over the dude driving behind a semi a bit too close while going under the speed limit. Then to sieze his life savings because \"drug money\"", "That's not what he said at all. All he did was defend himself against the accusation that no one does anything about legalization. Clearly some people probably including him do care and are doing something about it which is how his state became legal. It's not his fault you havent done enough in your state. Maybe hes doing everything he can from where he is but you arent doing enough. That's certainly what the evidence shows despite your uppity prick attitude.", "Nothing you tell the police can help you. That's not me being dramatic, that's the actual legal structure of the court system. Anything you tell the police that's in your favor is hearsay, anything you tell them that leads to your conviction is evidence.", "Millimeter radar", "\"Hey, I think you got all this money illegally. I'm gonna take it from you\"\n\n\"Uh, okay, but am I charged with a crime?\"\n\n\"Nope, but you could be\"\n\n\"So...can I get my money back if I prove I'm innocent?\"\n\n\"LOL, no, it's ours now. We need it to buy a SWAT tank so get fucked\"\n\nBasically what civil forfeiture is", "I am, thank you.", "Remember when Cops and robbers wasn't a single player game?", "hell yeah bromeo 🤜🤛 \\bro-fists you\\", "Actually happens pretty often outside the echo chamber that is reddit. But I agree, it is nice to see here.", "Enormous certainties.", "Is that... Is that.. Ah AIR FRESHENER you have on your rear view mirror?!\n\nOh so you're obstructing view AND covering up your weed stench?!\n\nMind if I search?", "Sorry, misremembered a piece of it. It wasn't the SCOTUS, it was a Tenth Circuit ruling, [US v. Westhoven](https://casetext.com/case/united-states-v-westhoven)\n\nShe was pulled over despite no reasonable suspicion she was violating the law. And because she was nervous and has acne, the cop thought she was a drug smuggler, so he conducted a search.", "A negative can't be proven. You're engaging in a logical fallacy and think you have a point.", "It's secure, can't be counterfeited and easily transferable.", "This was in February any update?", "Exactly! What kind of retard carries around his life savings in cash?", "You go to a machine and type in a pin, sure, but it's the bank that decides if money comes out.\n\nYou swipe a card or type in the card numbers on a website, sure, but it's the bank that decides if the transaction goes through.\n\nYou write a check, sure, but it's the bank that decides if it clears.\n\nYou go to an actual bank location and ask for a withdrawal (people still do this, it happens, I swear), but it's the teller who decides whether to pay out or not.\n\nOn a good day you don't have problems, unless you try to withdraw too much money at once.\n\nOn a bad day, you get nothing.", "Man I use to work with that guy in the Marines. He was a good guy, he was my sergeant for a while until I got promoted to sergeant as well he gave me a lot of great advice when I was in. Always looking out for his young Marines.", "America, tell me more about your freedom. We're all so jealous of you guys", "I`m currently visiting the US as a tourist (because of GF). I did rent a car. Does this apply to non US-citizens as well?\n\nI really really hope I don`t have to interact with police here. They just seem so horrible! Speechless.", "Yeah, I've had nothing but bad experiences, personally, which is uncommon of most Canadians. At this point, I think I'm cursed, so I don't even go to the US via plane any more, I'd rather pay a few extra hundred and have Canada-only layovers instead.", "They should have also paid for his lawyer fees and interest for the burden.", "That's not what you said at all, that guys an asshole. It's not your fault his state sucks. You arent personally responsible for all the ills in the world. If your state was still restricted a case could be made you could do more. What the fuck are you supposed to so for another state? The illegal states are also the ones preventing federal changes so what the hell can you do?", "Infant mortality apparently too.", "I'm sorry, but there were 2 parties in that transaction and the entire point of a mortgage is that there is a secured asset backing the loan in case of default.\n\nIt sucks, the banks should have been raked over the coals, but to imply that the banking system is going to fall apart because they did what was legally within their power to maintain solvency isn't this grand point that you seem to think it is.", "The truly fucked up thing is the area he got pulled over at has people going well over 90+ in a 70 daily. The NHP are a bunch of tools", "Clicks.", "> He even had a “gotcha” moment where he thought he identified a hole in my story, but he misheard me.\n\nAnd this is why it's \"I don't answer questions\" and nothing else, even if you're being careful, even if you want to remain polite.", "That doesn't change that they're direct violations of the first amendment in terms of freedom of assembly.", "So you would’ve chose to get blown away by the DEA and local authorities?!", "You are right. I was making a snide comment based on the previous comment. There are much more complex issues. The US government should keep it promises. I think the Pentagon and the VA shouldn't be separate organizations and, instead, the full lifetime costs of military intervention should be accounted for by one organization.", "It is a literal non-issue day to day. Police here aren’t generally out pulling people over for minor infractions and breaking out the drug dogs. If you go to Mexico or something on vacation, which people do all the time, your odds of being extorted by the police is actually very likely.", "Or like in a bank", "Due to main stream media picking up the story and he filed a lawsuit against the federal government, he received his money back.", "Unions aren't the problem, per se. It's America's growing appetite for boot soles, and a refusal to hold police accountable to the very laws they supposedly enforce.", "That’s bc the people who are arguing about it can’t memorize past the first 2", "I used to live in a gang controlled apartment complex. My mother (elderly white lady) made friends with her upstairs neighbors. Once police were called because of shots fired. The police questioned my mom and she said she didn't hear anything. She told me the couple upstairs loved each other a lot but they fought like she did with my dad when she was younger. She did hear the gunshot but my mom said she knew it wasn't a shooting because they both kept yelling afterwards.\n\nAfter that, my mom was protected. I worked weird hours, and one time there was a knock on the door seconds after I got home. Opened the door and it's a big scary looking guy in gang colors. He asked if he could talk to Mrs. H. \"She's right there\" and pointed to the couch. Gangster asks her who I am. When she tells him I'm her son, he relaxed and said he didn't recognize me so he was checking to make sure she was alright.\n\nMy mom had a bad habit of leaving her keys in the front door, and on a few occasions one of the neighbors knocked to let us know.\n\nSome gangs are conscientious and take care of the people in their neighborhood. Yes, they also dealt drugs and ran a brothel out of some of the apartments, but I never felt unsafe there.", "I mean yeah but there's this magical thing called \"smells like weed in here\" they can say despite making the smell up out of thin air. I once flew out to Utah from VT (a legal state) we arrived in SLC at 1AM and immediately went to sleep because we had to leave at 9AM to drive 4 hours south to go rock climbing. I was a youth rock climbing coach out there with a 16 year old kid I coach and we were there for Nationals (although we flew out early to climb outside which is where the 4 hour drive was to).\n\nAnyways we got pulled over on that 4 hour drive while the kid was driving and I was sleeping (he did have his permit). One of the first things the cop said was that it smells like weed in here. He literally made it up out of thin air. We had flown in at 1AM...I was with a kid and had no weed on me since I just flew in, and we literally went from airport to hotel to car in the morning. Like where the fuck did he get this smell from? He let us go with a speeding ticket for the kid but the last thing he said to us as he was leaving was \"Man, it just REALLY smelled like weed in here, weird\". Like wtf man there is no possible way it smelt like weed what the fuck. \n\nAnyways he fucked with the wrong kid, his mom is a lawyer. She got the cop in trouble lol apparently he does that shit all the time. He got out of the ticket too.", "Everyone I've seen say it says you ask if you are free to go, then you go. No one is suggesting you just leave without first checking with the police.", "I have a dashcam, but he made me get out of the car and talk to him near his car. He wrote the ticket while we were at his car. I thought it was odd, but apparently thats normal in SC. I dont know what he thought he smelled, but I can assure you he didnt smell anything. He was fishing. And if I would have argued he would have wasted more of my time. Like the ysaid \"you can beat the rap, but you cant beat the ride\".\n\nIm black and Ive been pulled over tons of times starting at 16 (Im early 40s now), and treated aggressively just for living in the hood or living in the suburbs where I was one of few black people, so Im used to this and know how to deal with them now. Doesnt make it less of a waste of time or frustrating, but I know how to move the process along quicker than before.", "Someone explain why Biden is doing fuck all on the police reform front? \n\nWe nearly burned the country down last year, and he ran on promises of doing something.", "Call the police. Report that you believe you’ve been pulled over by someone pretending to be a cop and you’re in fear of your life. Recant the entire stop to them, include their refuse to tell you why you’re detained. Ask them to stay on the line with you and send a real police officer to help you.", "Ok... I gotta leave 'work' soon, so I'll make it quick.\n\nIt was probably 2011ish, and I had just bought a half oz. My buddies and I found ourselves in between Reno and carson city, and we were just cruising. There was 5 of us in an Eclipse, so one too many. But, the one too many was in the backseat, and since we were all over 18, seatbelt laws didn't come into play. I think the cop could have been a bigger dick about that, but he was distracted from what else happened. \n\nWe are cruising around smoking heavily when we get lit up. probably a blunt or a joint or something but whatever it was gave off enough smoke to where the cop told us that he was heading the other direction, and flipped around when he smelled it. That was one of the first things he said, and we were all like \"what??\" So he was like \"give me the weed and lets make this quick\" in that sort of tone that cops take when they want you to think theyre cool but really theyre assholes.\n\nWe responded with \"what weed?\"\n\nHe came back with a quick \"give it to me\" but this was louder and had an angry tone. \n\nagain we say \"what weed?\" - like 3 of us saying this to the guy\n\nThen he gets real mad and yells \"give me the weed or we can make this difficult!!\"\n\nWe all bust up laughing and just repeat \"what weed??\" - to this day I do not know why we laughed, but the whole car was dying. This did not make deputy killjoy very happy. \n\nAt this point, I speak up. I'm one of those people who, if it's my shit, I'll own it, and I'm not good at keeping my mouth shut. that being said, I wasn't interested in getting in trouble that night. I said something like \"look sir, we don't have any marijuana, and we told you that.\"\n\nObviously he continued to lose his shit. at this point he turned his attention to the owner of the car, who was in the passenger seat. He asked if he could search the car. I immediately spoke up - I apologized to my friend, and told her that even though this was her car I was not going to let him take advantage of her and that he needed a warrant. Her uncle headed up a local drug team called Tri-net at the time, and luckily she was as familiar as I am with the law. \n\nShe told him to kick rocks. This is when he got really tricky, and this is the part I am most proud of.... he looks at her and super mad and smart assy he says (and I will get this as close to what he said as I can remember) \"Oh yea? I can't search it? well how about I get the dog out here, and when he barks then I search everything and take you all to jail?\"\n\nthis is an incredibly manipulative statement if you don't know the law, and you were trying to convince a cop you weren't holding, you would probably respond with a \"he wont smell anything so fine\" or whatever.... but luckily I had just learned this stuff a couple months prior. \n\nI quickly spoke up and yelled before anyone could answer \"NO WAY.... THE DOG BARKING DOESN'T MATTER, HE NEEDS A WARRANT AND CAN ONLY HOLD US FOR 45 MINUTES.\"\n\ndude freaked out. said some shit about \"what are you a lawyer\" or some cheesy shit. He then tried to get the driver on DUI, because in his defense it would have made sense that the driver was smoking too. but the driver didn't smoke, and was very straightforward with him about that, plus he passed all the sobriety tests like I mentioned.\n\nThe cop ended up letting us go after about 30 minutes, with no ticket because he couldn't prove any violations. \n\nI guess the cop asked who the smart ass in the car was once he had the driver out of the car, and told him they'd be looking for me, but nothing ever came of that.", "Yup. Systemic.", "That’s great. It suck that sometimes that’s the route you gotta go", "Holy fuck, you're so stupid it hurts", "In many states, felons are only restricted from voting while they're in prison.", "Literal highway robbery.", "They said that. That’s why they got the dog too to say “look, the dog went towards your money. That’s a drug sniffing dog. Even though we believe that this is your money, we need to confiscate this cash because it may have been used fir illegal purposes”.\n\nIt’s so fucking dumb.", "I don't believe I said anything about PC. Reasonable suspicion is a lower standard than PC.", "he really thought the cops was his friends lol", "Yeah, because the specificity of their comment is the issue, not the relationship between trainers, their funding, the people they're training, and the police union that manages both.", "Accidents doesn't care about legality though.", "Saying corrupt cops makes it seem like a minority. They're all corrupt, but this is technically by the letter of the (shitty) law. All cops want to and will do this. All of them.", "I never carry cash and this is why. I’ve heard the same story countless times, the cops are looking to steal it from you.", "I’ll never trust them because of what they did to me. Legal u-turn on my way home, was pulled over for no reason and cited for not having the registration docs in my car. I ended up forgetting to pay for citation and my license was suspended. \n\nI drove for three years without an incident. Until Cops showed up at more door and convinced me to come outside with a lie. They told me I was detained and tried to put me in handcuffs - I’d just had shoulder surgery and could feel the staples in my arm pulling against a 18in incision. The officer told me I was resisting and forced me against the wall. After an explanation from the partner along with showing video footage of my “alleged” crime, I told them I would show them my car. Meanwhile, blood started to trickle out through my shirt and down my arm at which point they removed the handcuffs. \n\nThey saw me pull out of the same circle k their vehicle was hit at. No evidence, nothing. They said it was a hit and run because my license was suspended. Fabricated this entire story and tried to intimidate me into agreeing. I didn’t hit their car, just happened to be there at the wrong time. They injured me, embarrassed me, and humiliated me in front of my neighbors. My lawyer told me there was nothing we could do. Funny huh, they can do all of that because I forgot to pay a citation.", "The Speedy Trial one was the reason the bail was so low on the person who later went out and killed all those people with his car at the parade in WI. \n\n\nWe should have a speedy trial but it is ridiculous that people who are accused of violent crimes aren't being prosecuted quickly, and the system is geared toward revenue generation like in the video above.", "i got pulled over because my temp tag “seemed suspicious.”\n\n“no that’s just what happens when you buy a car… bought this car 10 days ago, plenty of time left on the temp..?”\n\n“yeaaaa, still just a little suspicious for a car like this.”\n\n“a Focus?”\n\ni was there 2hrs.", "Because people were too blinded by “OrAnGe MaN bAd” and voted the other retard who is just as incompetent as he is", "Only carry credit cards when traveling distances. \n\nDo not carry debit cards. They can pull from there too.", "The classic \" Your honor, shut the fuck up!\" which is much better than\n\n\"Your honor, i'm just a debt-ridden college student who accidentally walked into the wrong bathroom at some middle school. Now please shut the fuck up.\"", "This almost made me spend money on an award to gift you.", "Because people are more commonly around drugs than bombs? If you think every time a dog alerts, you're going to find a kilo of drugs, then you have no clue how dogs work.", "Fuck cops in Nevada.", "This one of those examples I use to show the vast difference between what \"should\" be able to do and what a cop actually can do.", "In the 80’s in Connecticut there was a prosecutor who specializes in asset forfeiture‘s One day her son was arrested for selling LSD from the house, her house wasn’t sized. there was a 20/20, 60 min on it.", "> It's going to happen either way, if the cops are so inclined\n\nHuh, this is some interesting language that doesn't sound horrifying at all.", "Jesus….", "...and when you say \"worldwide\" I'm pretty sure you mean \"common law wide\". I don't think any civil law system ever had this bullshit. One of the problems when your whole legal system is \"unwritten\" is that people can just make up new shit on the fly and get away with it.", "\"Thanks Biden\" Don't be an ass. This has been happening for years across all administrations, no need to bring your personal politics into the argument.", ">and you're one of the 'monsters'\n\nWhy would you say that, and how? Im against the system just as much as you seem to be probably more, as you can't get much more anti cop than me. I don't think walmart should be able to call the cops on shoplifters even. Want to protect your shit, do it your damn self and don't involve the shot them all cops.", "[We’re talking about this guy. He doesn’t give a fuck. ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violent_Crime_Control_and_Law_Enforcement_Act)", "Don't consent to a FST", "As opposed to voting for the first retard who was basically a soft dictator who would trade any legislation for a photo op.\n\nPlease.", "You seriously don't think carrying 90k in your car is dumb? Really? It was all in one fucking backpack! A mugger would leave him destitute! Even if you're the kind of person who won't use banks why bring ALL the cash and not only what you need? From a financial security perspective it is OBJECTIVELY STUPID!\n\nWhat I think is going on, you can't let yourself have any negative feelings about a person you feel sorry for, you're too emotionally shallow for nuiace.", "Its true brother got pulled over with his legal gun. Been in jail 2 years this April and still hasn't seen a judge.", "How the existence of civil forfeiture laws being exercised by the literal arm of capital isnt related to the failings of capitalism is beyond me.", "\"I find it even more concerning that if this could happen to me, as a combat veteran who served overseas in Iraq and Afghanistan, this could happen to anybody,\"\n\nwhy is he shocked? He literally went overseas to risk his life defending this shitty system, of course it would be used agaisnt him.", "Hm. Maybe the Bill of Rights and the Constitution were actually supposed to protect us from something...", "It's dumb but not illegal. The state had no right to take his money at all.", "That seems like a good way to get shot for \"fleeing\".", "“No comment.”", "You saying that is ignorant too. They have been printing since 1789.\n\nSay something more substantial than that", "Reagan started it 80’s", "I’m sorry I’m not an English expert. Your on a global social media site. You knew what I was saying so chill", "In Canada we have a travel advisory against carrying cash in the US because of cops stealing money. And that’s exactly what this is.", "If you'd like to be ruled by a civilised country again you only have to ask. \n\nPolitely.\n\nThis independence isn't working out so well for America", "My only moral exceptions are those who commit sexually related crimes, especially against children. I know it's a bit hypocritical, but there's a special place in hell for those people. Unfortunately I still believe what I said should apply to everyone, but sexual crimes are extremely under sentenced in my eyes. \n\nAs for the website you linked, I thought I had a good grasp on how bad things are but it's even worse than I thought. That 2% figure is staggering.", "The cop didn't force his way in, he let him search the car, he told him there was a large amount of money in it. \n\nPeople need to know the cops aren't their friends", "He’s behind a truck and he’s going under the speed limit. Really, can you make a connection between the two!?", "Why should they not question over 100,000 dollars in cash? The cops did acknowledge the receipts were there, however, to me.... if you're dumb enough to think bank receipts would prove all that fucking cash then you deserve to be double guessed. It's either \"bait\" for views, or a blissful ignant.", "This is reddit, you can only be entirely positive about a thing or entirely negative, if he's a victim then by definition (reddits anyway) he can't have been stupid.", "Lots of people care. You're ignoring the actual people if you pretend they don't. The main problem is that no one can do anything about it. You can't resist arrest or you get Beaten and killed. You can't MAKE them give you a fast trial. The only way to change things is to hope that one of the two corporate-lobbyist parties changes something.", "Drug smugglers make enough to be able to just buy one and make a small armoured truck company. Fake paperwork about transporting something, have a number of the real thing be a wall when anyone opens your car, so they see \"oh, it's what the paperwork says it is\", because most cops won't have you empty the contents (truck driver friend of mine got one that did), and then behind it, you can fill up the rest of it with drugs in packaging that looks nondescript. Have something like fancy cigarettes and get the driver to say \"look dude, I don't know, I'm just transporting what's written down here, apparently some thugs threatened the company that wanted to deliver this, they got scared, and paid extra to get us\" if the cop asks about why an armoured truck instead of something saner.\n\nBetter yet, actually transport legit goods as well.", "> you don't have to wait for a canine unit\n\nthat only works if you're white tho...", "Cops are the new gangs, difference is they won't face any consequences.", "Are you having any therapy for your unprovoked and extreme hostility? If not, can I just point out that it's entirely possible to disagree with another redditor without being quite so unpleasant.", "Do you normally drive around with ten grand in your trunk or are you a normal person with a bank account? Just curious.", "Look at the way he's \"washing his hands\" before he gets to the \"large sums of money\" question he wants to fuck him over with. Anybody doing that with their hands is up to shady shit.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nLegalized highway robbery.", "Never forget the police confiscate more in wealth than all criminal theft combined.", "Bringing up a point relevant to the post isn't a fixation. Just stop replying bro. You're just coming off dumber with each post.", "Yep and the police take billions every year since it's been passed", "holy shit", "If asked to get out of the car is there any reason to ever get out? Assuming you’re not doing anything illegal and an officer asks you to please step out? Is it simply, “am I being detained?” \n\nI feel like there are so many rules and laws that most citizens, including myself, don’t truly understand. \n\n\nI know that most police aren’t fishing for things but when you get pulled over and asked “do you know why I pulled you over?” I personally don’t break enough moving violation laws to try getting out of a ticket. In the past I’ve clearly stated, “if you believe I did something wrong please write me a ticket so I can go on my way”. I’m not getting a warning but I’d rather that and a $300 ticket than whatever else could unknowingly arise from a situation. \n\n\nI’ve had a lot of bad luck with police I know and bad luck reaching out to police to help so my trust in general is very very low.", "I'm not quite sure why so many people are missing my point. I don't care how much money he's got in his car because he doesn't 'trust banks'. But it's foolishly risky.", "Ok troll. Wtf lol you are retarded. There is no negative…", "This is something I've always hated. I've always had an extreme hate for people, and society at large for allowing these kind of jokes about rape, and somehow saying it's ok. Sexually assaulting a person is never ok, under any circumstances, prisoner or not.", "Now kith!\n\nIn all serious was happy to see this exchange btwn you two. Buying you both imaginary beers.", "So is the USD. There are a zillion services to transfer money. Some are even losing money to make this easy for you like Venmo.\n\nAlso rn transferring money is crypto is way more convoluted. Every other legit crypto is coming up with new ways to do this same process so it’s not even set in stone.", "They can arrest you for any reason they make up. It don't mean the charges won't be dropped the very next day. An old cop saying goes:\"you can beat the charge but you can't beat the ride\". Once you resist being unlawfully arrested then you are breaking the law.", "It was designed for big drug and Rico cases to allow them to make massive seizures on drug lord property. But it is used Much Much Much more on regular citizens who were never the target of that law. \n\nIf not abolished narrowed in scope dramatically", "This is so fucking shameful.", "I'm Canadian, have very little inveated in USD lol", "Of course the dog alerted on it, cash is one of the things drug sniffing dogs are trained to smell for. Assholes knew what they were doing, they were looking to fabricate “probable cause”.", "Just to add to that, apparently they feel a \"border\" includes the coastline and now just a political division line between two countries. \n\nWhich is pretty much everyone.", "I was thinking about this earlier today where if we did lose all our rights and had minority groups sold into slavery in America. \n \nAbsolutely I know that despite everything I do correctly and everything my brothers and sisters do correctly, if we were sold into slavery by some sort of government institution, our republican parents would think we were somehow unchristian enough to have deserved it. \n \nThey wouldn't even question it, they'd just say it was our sinning ways that and the government knows best.", "From outside the US so just curious - Why would you pay such a large amount in physical cash instead of by transfer? What are the benefits? Is it to do with transfer costs or withdrawal limits?", "If the process was more \"Seize cash and then prove it\" i'd be more understanding. Seize 200k cash coming from Mexico? Okay sure. but then you gotta prove it was illegal in a reasonable amount of time (or get a warrant to lock the money away for longer). \n\nCurrent way is just theft.", "What happened to innocent until proven guilty? This is sad", "Nothing in my post even hinted at the suggestion that he shouldn't be allowed to have however much cash he owns in his car. But it is pretty dumb. I don't even carry my camera bag in my car unless I'm out taking photographs, and it's only worth about £6,000.", "Jesus", "You’re too smart for average Muricans. Suppression of basic education and history is a key focus of recent administrations. Poor majority citizens aren’t even educated/intelligent enough to understand that the “leaders” they support laugh at their ignorance.", "Repeat everywhere and everywhere. Spread it around, get others to say it.", "And people think the government is there friend.", "This is how you get shot. \n\nThe cops will arrest you, regardless of the law. You can beat the rap but you can’t beat the ride.", "You didn't commit the crime, but your property might be a shady character. /hj", "Whopping Wisdom", "Bit of a tangent I still think American War for Independence fits best as it wasn't actually a revolution per se. Overthrowing and replacing the British government was never on the cards.", "“Orange man bad. He make mean tweets. Totally worse than literal war crimes and the Great Recession. You see how his wife won’t touch him on tv?!?! He’s the worst president ever”\n\nShut tf up. You are a child.", "I'm a socialist, not a social Democrat which is what apparently passes as \"socialist\" in the corporate states of America or a fucking \"centrist\".\n\nI don't bother discussing the American fascist party because at this point it's just a distraction for the \"left\". I believe it's more productive to point out the lies and bullshit of neoliberal corporate democrats to raise public awareness that they aren't on our side either, in the hopes that it'll wake up enough \"vote blue no matter who\" idiots to start voting for progressives who actually want to fix things vs prolong the disgusting status quo.", "This is why you never consent to a search", "His \"reason\" was for the 1 second following distance of a commercial vehicle. Almost any vehicle out on the road today can stop a hell of a lot quicker in a shorter distance than a commercial vehicle, especially a damn tanker. \n\nThe general rule of thumb on the highway is 2 to 2.5 seconds, at speed. They were going under that, so a bit less is fine. \n\nAll in all, with how laws are written they can pull you over for just about anything. Even if it's bullshit, and they know it's bullshit. Ignorance of the law is no excuse in a lot of these kinds of situations... for you and I. But a cop can arrest you, for a completely made up law, or some bullshit they have no knowledge over, and can keep doing it time after time even after they know it's wrong. Your only reprieve is getting to the magestrate who actually has to look up any law they can hold you on. If they can't find anything, you're released. The cop doesn't get admonished or penalized in anyway, they get that special tick in their \"performance\" aka quota, and are free to do it again and again.", "Every fucking thread. It's idiots who think they've found a cheat code with \"Detained.\"\n\nThe cop says yes, then what? Nothing, because you can't do a fucking thing.", "Why did they target that guy? Don’t be so naive. You’re just a troll. That’s a shitty characteristic. Get your shit straight.", "I’m amazed the guy was able to keep his cool like he did. I’d be going nuts.", "Yeah in a perfect world this would work. Last time I got pulled over I got pulled out of the car because \"tint\" placed in handcuffs and they just started searching my car. I was just driving home.", "Pricks", "We are annoyed at Schrödinger's Feminism. Whenever men want to band together about causes that are important to men as a whole, we get torn down by feminists, told to wait our turn, and that feminists also have the best interests of men in mind. And then whenever we’re like “So how about that whole standing-up-for-men thing?” the tables get turned, people like you show up, and suddenly feminism is just about women’s interests again.", "FTP", "All cops are bastard scum.\n\nEvery single one.\n\nThere is a absolutely no justice in the US.\n\nIt is entirely an enslaved deplorable hell hole.", "The first quote in my response should answer your question. \n\nThat shit is most certainly NOT funny.", "the point is you can't create crypto out of thin air like you can with the US dollar. Many of them are finite. \n\nPlus, 40% of the USD supply was printed in the past year. How does that not concern you?", "I don't disagree that there are some good things that gangs do sometimes.\n\nBut we have large scale aggregate data on the impact of gangs on the communities they are from and it's more often than not that they hurt the communities they're in.", "Personally I disagree, I think the second amendment does carry some weight, but you're most likely right in that by the time most people would be willing, the ability would be gone. That's why I support deterrence dispensed, firearms are a fundamental human right to me, but I understand a lot of people disagree with that, especially on Reddit, which is fine, everyone is entitled to an opinion.", "Yes, and their rationale is ridiculous. You think that a bunch of rednecks from the middle of nowhere are going to be able to make a stand against the US government? You really think that's a fight they can win? They have guns because they live in a deluded reality, and have created an identity as some kind of libertarian freedom fighter that's going to stand up to the most powerful military on the face of the Earth with their semi-automatic rifle.", "My card has been stolen, and my bank has never refused to believe me?", "There was nothing civil about that war", "Cops and courts steal more in billions from Americans than actual thieves and burglars do.", "Never consent to a search if they pull you over. Make them get a warrant after you tell them to go fuck their Lothar.", "No the point still stands. Prision/jail rape is the most likely place for any person to be raped. 4x more likely to get raped in prison than in the outside. So if you want a law against X, the only punishment we really have is confinement with a pretty high chance at rape. Not counting the other horrible things that can happen inside. Or the stigma that screws you over for the rest of your life afterwards. \n\nSo go ahead call for a new law, but acknowledge the fact your condemning those that don't follow your rule to rape, confinement, solitary, and death if they piss off the wrong cop. Is the inconvenience of having your deodorant locked behind a counter worth the shoplifter going to prison?", "\"I am giving you a lawful order to recite the alphabet's consonants backwards while hopping on one foot.\"", "I would have received two prizes!\n\n1: an assault charge\n\n2: no job!", "Fucking disgusting", "Should still say no to the search though.", "If you put 1 bitcoin in a wallet, you can be guaranteed your bitcoin back as well. What's your point?\n\nYour point makes no sense", "Agreed. Many gun rights people fail to understand the other amendments and laws that are important.", "Literally one of the best countries in the world.", "Aww. Are you upset that I told the truth about your racist, bigoted orange turd of a fucking loser presidential candidate who cheated the 2020 presidential election and STILL LOST to none other than fucking Joe Biden? Lmao. You dunces and your projection. Only someone with the mind of a child would support corona donnie.", "If it wasn't a cop there'd be nobody to sue and he'd just be shit outta luck.\n\nWe recently had a client who wanted help getting back life savings they kept under their mattress, we asked them who took it and she said she didn't know. We asked the cops and they said without evidence the money existed there wasn't much they could do.\n\nStoring your savings in the bank is literally thousands of year old wisdom because people will take it and there is nothing you can do to stop it.", "He’s right. You’re wrong. About the burden of proof thing, at least.", "There's more numbers after two?", "Wait til you hit the red icons.", "You're acting like you're judge and jury of what's right and wrong. \"Show me examples.\" \"But what about rioting and looting?!?!\" (x50), \"That's not acceptable to me, it's a bs example,\" \"Thank you for your intelligent example.\" Jesus christ dude, do you see how that might sound condescending? If you're not intelligent enough to parse the truth (since you keep bringing up intelligence) from the mainstream news stories that are being linked to you, that's your own fault. And if you want more information, you have it at your fingertips. But it's your job to find some critical thought within yourself.\n\nJust because crimes took place during some, not all, protests, does not make it acceptable for the government to infringe on the first amendment right of assembly of unrelated peaceful protesters. But instead, law enforcement is using it as an excuse for violence against for people who have not oy done nothing to deserve it, but were having their civil and human rights trampled on without question woth people like you cheering it on without a second thought. Usually a slippery slope is usually a logical fallacy, but now we're sitting here watching it in real time as it pertains to democracy. Other Americans' rights are your rights, and my rights.\n\nYou have enough examples, now can you think about why this is morally wrong, constitutionally wrong, and dangerous in a million different ways?", "This is something non-lawyer folks typically misunderstand about the law.\n\nThe law, and the Constitution and case law in particular, is not a coherent logical system. You can write a Constitutional provision or a statute in a way that treats spending money as a form of speech in one case and not in another case. There's nothing that requires that the law have a general rule that \"money = speech, always\" or \"money =/= speech, always.\" You can write whatever rules you want that sometimes treat it one way and sometimes treat it another. \n\nSo the basic answer to your question is that there's nothing requiring the law to treat 2 things that it says are the same in one case as being the same in any other case.", "It’s civil forfeiture not criminal. There’s no guilty or innocent, which is why it’s so shitty. The cops say it’s probably illicit, and the state takes it under civil law, so now you have to prove them wrong.\n\nIf it were criminal they’d have to prove that you are guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. I believe the standard used by Civil is just called a preponderance of the evidence, or 50+ percent.", "I didn't say there was no reason not to trust banks, but there's no reason to not put 100,000 in a bank and worry that somehow your money is going to disappear. That will not happen because your money is guaranteed by the federal government, so again, unless you are afraid of the federal government not making good on it's insurance of your money, then you have no reason to not trust banks in THIS SPECIFIC SITUATION, which I am talking about.\n\nIf you want to talk about hypothetical bizarro world scenarios, then have a conversation with someone else because that's not why I'm here.", "So, they're just really lucky at picking the cars with lots of cash in them? These stories happen all the time. It seems like they're being selective.", "You are another redditor who seems to struggle with plain English.\n\nBecause I'm heading off to bed, I'll keep this short.\n\nNative English speakers should be able to tell that my post distinguishes between the risk he took by keeping cash in his car ('I don't trust banks') nothing to do with whether its legal to do that... and the disgraceful existence of unjustified civil forfeiture rules.", "I completely agree, poor people are treated awful in America, we may not have a caste system, but it certainly feels like it sometimes.", "Didn’t even think about this… crazy!", "Because 'Merica", "Fuck the police, and the feds. Biggest crime organizations there is. Fuckers can rot.", "But once again, if you leave out the party and only insult the one, it comes off as support for the other. Especially when you're ignoring the fact that that party actively supports police brutality.\n\nI ask again, why are Republicans against gun control?", "Where was the insult? I'm genuinely perplexed, the only people I might have insulted are the milquetoast party-line democrats and republicans. Are you one of them?", "If you don’t comply with law enforcement, by their definition of non compliance, they can escalate it to varying degrees of physicality to restrain or subdue a suspect. \n\nTell me, what would be your plan if you were this gentleman?", "Feminists mention this all the time. If you'd actually pay attention you'd know that.", "This is only because during that time the state is responsible for your well being, but I agree, medical price gouging is ridiculous in America", "NOBODY should become prey in prison. Prison is hell as it is, then to add more just makes them more likely to come out more violent, vindictive, abusive and less able to integrate into society.", "Maybe don't be a complete dumbfuck and you won't get talked to like you're a dumbfuck? You're the dipshit loser asshole who said \"what kind of idiot carries 90k?\" Go fuck yourself, you ignorant piece of trash", "Like the cops?", "You can literally only transfer 5k with Venmo. Most services are capped and the fees are ridiculous. I can move however much crypto I want between wallets", "That’s mad inaccurate. \n\n“Americans” as we’re now known were more fixated on the concept of “Columbia” and being citizens of the United States as their demonym. We as a nation never became fixated on “America” or being “American” until the 20th century.\n\nAt the time of the founding fathers “American” was used in reference to people in Paraguay and Labrador. \n\nYou reference Washington’s farewell speeches wiki page. It doesn’t contain the farewell speech. The speech also doesn’t contain the word. It contains the words Republic, the United States and the Union.", "This veteran put his life on the line for this country and in return had his life savings seized by a representative of the state who would not pass muster to defend this country. \n\nWhy do we seed power to people who are so incompetent we would wouldn’t allow them to defend our country from foreign adversaries, but instead let them loose with qualified immunity on ourselves? End qualified immunity, abolish police unions, make the police officers liable and require they and their unions pay for their liability coverage backed by the money put in their pensions. \n\nDivert commensurate funding from police answering calls to qualified crisis health workers for nonviolent community emergency calls. It’ll be less expensive and result in better outcomes for the individuals and the communities.", "If you're asked to get out of the car you don't have to. You can ask why, or you can be silent.\n\nIf you are told to get out of of the car, get out of the car.\n\nIf you're asked \"do you know why I pulled you over\" say \"no\". Because you don't. Anything you say will be an admission of guilt. Make the officer state why they pulled you over. 99% of cops will not ask this...they'll state their name, agency, and tell you why they pulled you over. If they ask you if you know why they pulled you over they're most likely 75~100lbs overweight and have \"???? Sheriff\" written on the side of their car.", "Driving with black friends I've heard the \"for the description\" line a few times. It's weird that I never seem to fit the description.", "He’s not my president you literal knuckle dragger. You live in a world with no nuance and can’t comprehend that Bush being the worst president of all time having literally committed war crimes that have killed millions and allowed for a Great Recession that we still haven’t recovered is a defense of trump. It isn’t. Fuck trump. But more importantly fuck you for being so stupid you can’t tell the difference.", "You keep throwing weird strawmen into your posts for no reason. Feel free to keep arguing with those as you seem to already have your mind made up.\n\nhttps://www.npr.org/2017/11/20/563889510/preventing-police-bias-when-handling-dogs-that-bite", "No I’m just feeding trolls on the internet. Y’all are just fabricating nonsense? I’m not retarded like y’all…", "This veteran put his life on the line for this country and in return had his life savings seized by a representative of the state who would not pass muster to defend this country.\n\nWhy do we seed power to people who are so incompetent we would wouldn’t allow them to defend our country from foreign adversaries, but instead let them loose with qualified immunity on ourselves? End qualified immunity, abolish police unions, make the police officers liable and require they and their unions pay for their liability coverage backed by the money put in their pensions.\n\nDivert commensurate funding from police answering calls to qualified crisis health workers for nonviolent community emergency calls. It’ll be less expensive and result in better outcomes for the individuals and the communities.", "Not a lawyer but I did take a single business law class for my MBA, and we covered some basic legal process stuff before diving into the more business and bird related stuff. I’m definitely not disagreeing that our legal system is designed to drain all resources from “the poors” so they can lose the right to vote and work basically as slaves, but the trial can’t start too quickly. I don’t remember if this happens after arraignment or not, I want to say it does, but there’s a process called discovery. Discovery allows lawyers to gather all their evidence, and they are required to share every piece with the other side. Each lawyer has the opportunity to argue based on what they’ll present and what the other will present. \n\n\nI wanna say there is a process for introducing evidence after discovery has ended or even during the trial, but the circumstances must warrant it and the judge will decide if that’s the case. This has to happen in an organized fashion and both lawyers have to have equal access, before this goes in front of a jury. I may have dreamt up that last part about post discovery but I’m like 80% confident that the first part is true. \n\nAnyway, I believe this is a major reason trials don’t get started immediately.", "This is about civil forfeiture. Most people seem to care more that the police are allowed to rob him. Him being a veteran just slams home the fact that even someone who put his life on the line for his country isn't safe from this. It's also a way to grab more sympathy, guy who literally risked his life for our country gets screwed over by the system.\n\nAlso, I don't see that much anti veteran sentiment on reddit, but there is a lot of anti-war sentiment, just like there is with the general population. If this were about the VA fucking over vets you wouldn't see the majority of people saying \"good\". You'd have to be looking at communist and other radical subreddits to find people shitting on vets getting upvoted.", "Sorry not sorry, ex army, point blank is my habit. That joke is everywhere, and its wrong, so rubbing it in your face hopefully makes you angry, maybe angry enough to tweet at some politician that doesn't give a shit about you or the ones they sent to live in that hell. \n\n[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc6QxD2\\_yQw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc6QxD2_yQw)\n\nMaybe get hollywood to stop using it before you jump down my throat.", "Agreed, public education is a joke in America.", "I have to kind of disagree with you here. Have they been wrongly infringed on a little bit? Sure they have, a little bit. But they are certainly not dead. \n\nIAMALawyer and deal with this stuff a lot.", "what's the difference if he's a veteran or not. doesn't make his money worth more.", "According to revisionist history it is because America really wanted to have slaves", "I guess that's a legitimate reason, and I appreciate you putting forth a comment in good faith unlike everyone else in this thread. But he said he didn't trust banks, not that he was morally against banks.\n\nAlso, he owes $18,000 in child support, 2 years of back taxes, and his ex issued a restraining order against him, so my guess is his \"trust\" isn't rooted in what you're suggesting", "This is exactly what I was trying to put into words!", "I mean you could just google it yourself, but here ya go: [https://medium.com/retention/police-kill-more-whites-than-blacks-is-true-and-it-isnt-55102f5206b3](https://medium.com/retention/police-kill-more-whites-than-blacks-is-true-and-it-isnt-55102f5206b3)", "So true, damnt need to lay off this a bit getting my BP up.", "Yeah I didn't reference that he shouldn't be allowed. All I wanted to do was reinforce how dumb he was. He didn't think his of car malfunctioning or the idiocy of keeping that much cash.", "Kentucky: I think weed should be legal. \n Also kentucky: elects mitch McConnell every election cycle.", "I have a bad history with bank transactions in large amounts. They look for any reason to place it under a hold and that can derail the buying process. Cash is easier in private party car sales, and leaves room for negotiations on asking price. Hope this answered your question well enough", "As someone who was arrested and did time in us jail. I did choose to fight in trial and caught the cops lying so many times that the prosecutor turn to mine and my codefendants dads and said we’ll have your sons stuff together by the end of the day thinking the judge was gonna let us go due to how many laws the cops broke. But we had a retired judge that only cared about convictions and ignored the facts. The who time I had cops screaming at me how I didn’t want to fight it because I was gonna get 20- life. I got 7-1/2 years. Always take it to court and never admit to anything and don’t think you’ll get less time for snitching. I saw guys get 5x bigger sentences because they snitched and while doing so the cops where adding charges to them. So instead of 6 months they got 5 years minus a bit for snitching.", "Boot licker", "Mountainous accuracies", "Shes a conservative Democrat who serves the oligarchs. But because the RNC is on the extreme right and mostly reactionary she gets away with calling herself left.", "Murrrrica", "Yah, they should get rid of civil forfeiture, and do it like the rest of the other governments, through taxes.", "Son, if you honestly believe what you are typing, show this thread to the smartest person you know and ask them to judge.", "It is literally high way robbery... Thats crazy", "Aww. Are you upset corona donnie is literally the worst President the United States has ever seen? Awfully childish to be so invested in someone who doesn’t care one single little bit about you.", ">Why should they not question over 100,000 dollars in cash? \n\nBecause they had no reason to.", "I will never trust the police they are pieces of shit you won’t and can’t change my mind look don’t get me wrong I’ll commend a cop for killing a school shooter or a robber but stealing someone’s money because you think it’s drug money its irrational fuck the police they are fucking commies", "I think you misread his sarcasm. You're on the same side.", "This makes me sick.", "I think you missed the part of their comment where they specifically talk about a young male friend who has been abused in prison for almost 3 years. Like, I know sometimes people don't /s but their whole statement is clearly contextualized. They're against abuse in prison.", "So, if you are having therapy, it's clearly not working.\n\nHave you got a blood pressure meter? Because I'm worried that you're going to have a stroke from all that hostility. Don't care about you, obviously, but it's possible (unlikely, but possible) that there are people that care about you and I'm worried for them.\n\nI must admit I'm curious how you managed to lose $10,000 between my first post and your last. I've not heard about blood pressure impairing memory, but I suppose it's possible.", "Very true, the shopping cart one is a good one too, I could never be friends with anyone who treats retail workers/wait-staff like shit or who don't put their shopping carts away correctly", "Plus, let’s be real here veteran status doesn’t mean squat. I’m not saying that to be edgy, it just has zero bearing on laws of the land", "Why? It's legal. He has every right to even if his reason is because he fucking wants too.", "Well, Rodriguez probably means they couldn’t bring the dog in anymore. But the main precedent in the ruling is Arvizu, which itself is border patrol bullshit.", "I thought USA was the hola grail of suing", "> FIGHT THE BATTLE IN COURT.\n\nAnd if you're too poor to fight the battle in court?", "Or a debit card and bank account", "Boot licker", "Makes a good case for Bitcoin. If you store your Bitcoin properly, it cannot be seized.", "It’s pretty clear that the motivation behind the seizure in this story was the fact they could keep the money if they robbed him. It would’ve worked if they were able to kill the story too, unfortunately for them it got out.", "Any sources? That's a pretty wild claim.", "And dude those are the people that need to experience what pigs do to innocent people", "That is pure speculation.", "No it wasn’t. Britain had slavery in its other colonies long after they ended it in their mainland.", "Stealing money from a combat veteran… I hope satan wipes his ass with their souls", "No, I know. I was emphasising my point. There's one guy giving himself a hernia screaming about what he thinks I posted.", "Correct, I think the Jordan ruling stemmed from the generally accepted timelines of the Askov decision.", "Yes, and more so what I was trying to say is that there are some crimes I believe are criminally under-sentenced. What I was referring to mostly was sexually related crimes, especially those against children.", "Its just one of those little things the oligarchs say from time to time, we really should fix this, more study needed, this reporting law will really help. \n\nDoesn't help that Hollywood normalizes it. \n\n[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc6QxD2\\_yQw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc6QxD2_yQw)\n\nGood watch.", "But they aren't afraid of protestors shooting back at police like Democrats are?\n\nSo let me get this straight, it's bad that democrats want to take people's guns and it is also bad that republicans want people to have guns? Am I understanding that right?", "You literally removed the context. He was very clearly bitching about a culture that acts like it's funny.", "Yeah, but if you’re poor you’ll sit in jail for god knows how long until either the news picks it up or an org like the ACLU notices.", "It is still unreal to me that this is just how it is in America", "I’ve been pulled over for “driving too perfectly”. \n\nI was on a first date and was trying to be considerate.", "Never talk to cops, ever. Ever.", "This is infuriating.", "How do I make a donation? The link would not open.", "Guy doesn't trust banks but he trusts cops?", "fades to the 3 other civilians at the end of the clip, whom the police have stolen similar amounts from", "Also add never get out of your vehicle.", "Cops routinely murder people on the streets, most end up with the punishment of a few weeks paid vacation", "Which state is this? I'm genuinely curious. It's appalling, but it sounds completely feasible", "Cheers! We’re just like Mexico now.", "Thank goodness!!! Those cops really saved a lot of lives there!!! Useless fucks", "Dutch minister of justice and security said he wants police to be able to do that over here. The dude is a pos.", "Why do you think Biden just hired 1.5 million more IRS agents and wants to track any bank accounts with over $600 now?", "The police took several thousand of my mom's hard earned money when my knucklehead brother invited them over inadvertently. Real poor times too, we never got it back.", "In the US, we have The American Rule, which makes each party responsible for its own legal fees, win or lose.", "You basically lose all rights as soon as you drive a car on public roads.", "Lmao you are helpless.", ">Overall, I would recommend not consenting to the search as I did, but also responding to questions with “I will not discuss my day”, and keep the window at least 1/4 of the way up just to keep them from leaning in. \n\n1000% this. Never talk to the police, never exit your vehicle, never consent to a search. The only words out of your mouth should be, \"here's my license, registration and proof of insurance,\" \"I don't want to answer any questions,\" and, \"am I free to go.\"\n\nIf the police want to pull you over and give you a stern talking to about following too closely, changing lanes too frequently or just want to shoot the shit, great. Quietly listen and ask to leave when you get a chance.\n\nwithout the officer articulating their probable cause or reasonable suspicion", "I used to be adamant about the same, but the Revolutions podcast had some good arguments.\nIf it had been a straight up war of independence (favoured by some American patriots) they would have ended the war with a settled peace and possibly a separate and equal parliament to Great Britain.", "And people wonder why the police are hated so much", "Guess who’s responsible for this law and pioneered it “to fight drug trafficking” - the same drug trafficking laws he pioneered that put millions of minorities with petty crimes in JAIL? \n\nJoe Biden", "\"wErE gOiNg tO tAkE yOuR mOnEy FoR nO rEaSoN, pRoVe It'S yOuRs\"", "Lol at this point you're going to have to specify the civil war.", "Congress has incrementally expanded the government's authority to disrupt and dismantle criminal enterprises and their money-laundering activities since the early 1970s. They have done this by enacting various anti-money-laundering and forfeiture laws such as the RICO Act of 1970 and the USA Patriot Act of 2001. The concepts of asset forfeiture goes back thousands of years and has been recorded throughout history on many occasions.\n\n>The Foundation for Economic Education (FEE) is an American conservative libertarian economic think tank. It is a member of the State Policy Network.\n\nTrustworthy site you got going on, couldn't find anything more neutral or less biased, maybe say an actual government site?", "fuck off piggy", "Or the fact that he's losing purchasing power to inflation by having it just sit there. Doesn't even have to be a bank. Invest it somewhere.", "Maybe, but I don't think the Democrats (the powers that be, not the radicals) want their full voting base mobilizing unless there's a strong media narrative to cudgel them into line with. Then they might actually be held accountable by a motivated populace who realizes they're giving a lot more lip service than they are actually making things better.", "I was commenting on the fact it only took 8 years to find a president worse than Bush. Who knows what the next decade has in store for us.", "I mean, at least I’m not a corona donnie supporter.", "Why don't you explain it to me instead? What I said isn't about percentages. Police kill more white people than black people. That's an undisputable fact. Now if you want to start saying police are more likely to kill blacks than whites, that's still false, if you are considering the entire United States population, because, again (whites killed/US population) > (blacks killed/US population). If you start excluding the entire population and start dividing by racial populations and not total population, then sure you can start making up statistics that fit this narrative. But using the same methods you'll also find that blacks are substantially more likely to be criminals than whites. However, if you divide by entire US population, this isn't true either as far more whites are arrested by blacks. Also consider that you are over 4x more likely to be white (60% of americans) than black (13% of americans) and you will see that as an american, you're far more likely to be white and far more likely to be killed by police. Perhaps you should look up how percentages work, and how they can be arbitrarily made up to support and agenda, but if you look at how those numbers were arrived at, they don't actually make sense.\n\n[Here's some numbers to back it up.](https://medium.com/retention/police-kill-more-whites-than-blacks-is-true-and-it-isnt-55102f5206b3)", "The police need reform or destruction and I really don’t care which", "If you don’t understand why an immutable token verified by a decentralized peer network is useful or valuable I’m not going to waste my time explaining it to you. \n\nEven if the technology wasn’t very interesting for future proof systems the fact that it’s an asset that can be traded eschewing the pattern day trading rule is awesome.", "Biden Derangement Syndrome", "I don't require therapy, and my blood pressure is almost perfect. I just prefer to hold stupid fucks accountable, like I did with you. Now take that hot feeling of embarrassment and learn from it. Don't type up stupid statements which you know nothing about, and then people like me wouldn't make you look like the idiot you know you really are. Either way life will teach you what you haven't learned yet", "Man, Biden sure has created a whole lot of extremely shiity laws in his career. It's almost like the guy fucking sucks.", "The state would lose a reason to lock up minorities for cheap/free prison labor tho", "Not to make light of this conversation but I am reminded of this god damn Chris Rock masterpiece: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj0mtxXEGE8\n\nNSFW obviously.", "I believe it's called \"the Guantanamo Bay\" approach to the justice system.", "Why did he have so much cash? Probably a drug dealer", "Wow I’m amazed on easy it was to take 87k and you get a pink piece of paper in return.. I would have lost my sit if they just took my savings like that. Kudos to him for being so calm", "this guy histories", "That’s still fucked up that it was happening in 2015", "How do cops get up in the morning? Do y’all just say, fuck it, I’m going to ruin someone’s life today without care? Garbage ass profession and people all around.", "It's literally the same loophole they use with undocumented immigrants. A crime was committed, so we can enforce laws, but since they don't count as citizens the Constitution doesn't apply so they don't get any due process.", "Just FYI\n\nJoe Biden championed and is largely responsible for this exact civil asset forfeiture law(s).\n\nJoe Biden - your president.", "Who can we talk to? Can this be front page news and a difference be made? What is their reason for taking the money?", "[The just world fallacy] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-world_hypothesis#:~:text=The%20just%2Dworld%20hypothesis%20or,fitting%20consequences%20for%20the%20actor.&text=Lerner%20conducted%20seminal%20work%20on,world%20in%20the%20early%201960s.) basically assumes the world is fair and justice is prevalent and that people get what they deserve.", "This is new for me, these feelings of distrust in my country. I’m 41. I wasn’t completely ignorant, I knew there was injustice. I guess I’ve just become more aware now for some reason. The past year, with each passing day, my distrust of our government; our law enforcement; our financial institutions; our politicians- increases dramatically. This right here is infuriating. For this to happen to anyone is horrifying. To see this happen to one of our veterans…. He’s been betrayed by the country he risked his life for.", "Just another reason to hate PIGS", "Thank you, it does.", "Desktop version of /u/Theygonnabanme's link: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-world_hypothesis>\n\n --- \n\n ^([)[^(opt out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiMobileLinkBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^(]) ^(Beep Boop. Downvote to delete)", "They don't feel like different things to the common people. Only the elite or incredibly fortunate will be able to make use of that difference.", "And I really wasn't paying attention to the amount you stated. That wasn't as important as the absolutely smooth brained, ignorant comment you typed up", "Anyone know if Biden had rescinded the DoJ’s ability to use civil asset forfeiture? The article states that it was reinstated under Trump, but nothing about Biden’d DoJ abolishing it (as Obama did).", "The US is such a shit hole. Swear to God the biggest threat to any citizen is the police nowadays. I'm not a fan of everyone carrying guns but at this point you either start doing it and protect yourself, your community and your property from these guys or stop complaining.\n\nYou have the right to carry guns and self defense. You can ALWAYS say you were afraid of your life and it's thus legal to shoot any cop threatening you.", "He's lucky he didn't have physical property taken. They would have auctioned it for pennies in the dollar and no chance of getting it back", "It's hard not to conclude that they're still winning.", "The police suck but the District Attorneys office, in the US at least, should have thrown that shit out once they got ahold of the police report. Assuming the cops didn’t lie on it.", "It's not true. Actual leftists are interested in prison reform. It is the right wing and liberals, who are by definition centrists, who reinforce the 'hard on crime' myth of somehow imrpoving society, which it doesn't.", "1) These bullshit asset seizure laws need to end. WHATEVER good they might have contributed too have been replaced by the abuses of dirty cops across the country.\n2) what a bullshit stop this is why people don’t trust and don’t like cops\n3) This poor guy didn’t know the golden rule “Shut the fuck up” when a cop asks you questions you are not obliged to answer \nA N Y T H I N G! Also NEVER consent to a warrantless search. \n\nAmi being arrested? Am I being detained? Am I free to go? That’s it", "There are two kinds of people that need a lawyer: the innocent and the guilty.", "Yeah, he seems to have a bit of a screw loose. Everyone knows you're supposed to convert your money to precious metals, bury it in several sites around your property, and construct a series of booby traps to protect it all.", "That’s how I usually drive. Isn’t that how we are all meant to drive?\n\nWhat’s the alternative, driving like you want to be pulled over? \n\nDidn’t realise Super Troopers was a documentary.", "Hey man you do you and keep on going on. You might get lucky and with the money printer going brr the US will remain the reserve currency for your life. Good luck, you'll need it.\n\nBTC is part of your investment bucket, if you want to go 100% USD, good luck. I'm sure the interest payments being below inflation will make you mad bank.", "[This gets pretty close, and the transcript it's based on is real] (https://youtu.be/7vN_PEmeKb0)", "What does this have to do with literally anything? It’s his cash, right? Why does a bank or anyone else need to care about what he does with his money? \n\nI can’t tell if this a joke because the people that actually think your joke are complete morons.", "Amen.", "Let's talk about the tenth too...", "Cops are the biggest robbers ever", "but saying that we were super duper close to all banking protections falling through is very wrong. you’re much more likely to find yourself in a situation like this if you keep tens of thousands in cash.", "They settle the cases where people actually fight it so it can’t get to higher courts to get struck down.", ">“Can i have permission to search your car?”\n\n>“No.”\n\n100% that's how it should be. \n\n>There is never a situation where you should allow an officer to search your car without a warrant.\n\nAgain, I agree but we as Americans are not trained that way. It can also be harmful or more of a risk to you if you exercise your rights. \n\nCops can lie to you all they want, but you cannot lie to them. Legally speaking. This guy thought being honest would move things along quicker. Which in a lot of cases can do just that. When it got to asking to search the car? That's when he should have known better. Everyone that has any idea of transporting any kind of money anywhere should know that it can be seized even if you are doing nothing wrong. Had this guy known that, he may have not been honest about the cash and it would have ended shortly after that. The only reason why the cop wanted to search the car was because of the admission of money. \n\nNow if he would have refused to have the car searched? After the admission of large sums of currency? His day would have still been ruined, best case scenario he's there for at least 3 hours of a lot of going back and forth and maybe deciding not to push it any further? Worse case, he could have done something to provoke an officer to drawing his weapon and something more dangerous happening. \n\nWe are mostly taught that if we are honest and hard working in this world then we will get ahead. That's bullshit. Lying is rewarded, and working off the labor of others is celebrated. This... if he would have lied about money being in the car. I am pretty sure he would have gotten a ticket for following too close or a warning and that would have been it. \n\nAgain, not saying everyone should allow searches... but each situation is different. What's good for one person may not be good for another. If you are black/brown and or tend to have very high emotions and can't handle yourself very well? And you know you have nothing to hide. Then I can see why they do. It's understandable. It's not right, not how it should be... but it's understandable. \n\n>“I’m sorry but i do not answer questions without my lawyer present. I’m sorry but cannot submit to any kind of search. May I go?”\n\nAbsolute words of wisdom that most people should definitely follow. But some cops look at that, like you are questioning their authority and will escalate the situation because of it. \n\nI really do wish we lived in the world where every person no matter their skin tone, or emotional state could do just that and it never lead to anything violent or make the situation worse. \n\nWould also note that allowing the search out of the convivence of getting things done quicker... some cops if they don't find anything, they may just plant something to find. Hell some have even been caught doing it on their own body cam.", "I've read the article before. It says because drugs aren't actually found when a dog alerts, it's a false positive. That's like saying if you smell a blunt that someone just smoked driving, but the blunt isn't there anymore, then what you smelled is a false positive. Dogs will smell the residue long after the drugs are gone. There's a reason the Supreme Court ruled unanimously that drugs dogs can provide probable cause.", "Not even a quarter of the way up. It should be open just wide enough to talk and have your id and registration through.", "It's not a question of, \"I know my rights, peace out, cub scout,\" it's a question of, \"I know my rights, if you continue to violate them, this will end poorly for you and your department.\" \n\nExpressing your rights during a traffic stop greatly increase the likelihood of any civil court proceedings going your way since it eliminates the police's \"we didn't violate any rights! We asked permission to consent to a search and he/she obliged!\" defense. \n\nNever leave a traffic stop until you've been given the all clear from the officer, but don't give up your rights without a fight either.", "> If he would’ve said, “unless you have a warrant to search my vehicle, I’d like to be on my way” He wouldn’t have lost his money.\n\nhttps://vm.tiktok.com/ZM8nnrxeK/\n\nThis guy literally refused search, so the cop told him he was detained for no reason. They call the drug dog, who flags the car, and now the officers have probable cause.\n\nIf an officer wants to search your car, they will.", "This guy trusts cops but doesn't trust banks? Lol", "Do you know what FYI means? \n\nFor your information. \n\nIt's valuable to know that an article is over 6 years old lmao. \n\nIf you're going around reading everything as if it was created this week, yikes", "And even if it's a bad idea, the risk should come from criminals, not from fucking law enforcement working within the law.", "Be careful with that. You must identify yourself to the police if you are being detained. If they ask for license, registration, and proof of insurance you must give it to them or they will legally remove you from the vehicle and arrest you for failure to identify. Always play the good guy on the street because if they do something wrong you can fight it in the court. If you fight them in the street you are going to lose no matter what.", "FDIC is a federal agency, the federal government benefits from exactly what is being attempted in the video. So no, in this context FDIC doesn’t mean shit anymore.", "I was living in Vegas when something like this happened 15 years ago. Pretty sure that county had it's funding stripped by the state for going through with it. It's not like Nevada wants to be known for something like this, considering their number one money maker is having people bring cash into the state and visiting casinos. I wouldn't be surprised if the missed deadline wasn't missed on purpose.", "Definitely", "Okay, I want you to read this part again:\n\n>you're just using right/left to mean republican/democrat and clearly have zero understanding of politics", "[Here you go](https://nypost.com/2021/12/01/video-shows-arizona-cop-fatally-shooting-man-in-wheelchair/). Don't worry, they handcuffed him after they murdered him.", ">it seems to me most of these cases are them letting people traffic drugs and then just reaping their profits once they’ve sold them.\n\nThat's exactly what it is. All the rewards, none of the risk, and instant job security!", "Also, even if you don’t trust banks enough to deposit your money into an account, could you not just get a safety despite box in a bank vault and put the cash there?", "it makes sense in limited circumstances. like, good Samaritan laws which exist in all US states iirc protect you if you help someone and end up hurting them further, except because I'm CPR/AED certified, I'm lawfully required to help, however I can't be held liable if I fuck shit up further. however, that's when I act in good faith. if I were to purposely fuck up CPR to cause damage to someone, I can be criminally and civilly held liable. same should be for cops. they accidentally do harm? sure, immunity. purposefully tho? nah throw the book at em.", "thats cute. y'all think that courts aren't in on it.", "My parents used to own a Mitsubishi Magna that did the same thing growing up. It struggled up hills too. I remember my mum getting very angry at the car on a moderate incline.\n\nMy condolences to you.", "I’m sorry I think my point was missed completely and that we shouldn’t have to settle for two absolute retards no matter what party they fall under. In the end we all lose when the best we can do is to choose the lesser of two evils", "End the Drug War which was always a war on people.", "Or buy your own safe and keep your money in a safe at home? There are so many better options even if you really don't want it in a bank.", "When you say \"money is considered free speech\" are you referring to supreme court decisions like Citizens United and Buckley v Valeo? If so, I can say that the court in those cases said that campaign contributions and expenditures are a form of \"political speech\" in that it's basically someone (a person or an entity) saying which candidate and/or issues they support. So it's a bit more narrow than just money = speech.", "What? I'm actually really curious how you got this oppinion. The Revolutionary war (1776) was long before slavery was abolished in the British empire (1833) and before abolition in the states (1865). How is slavery related to the revolutionary war in any way shape or form?", "Far more men are raped than women unless you don't count prison.", "You're obviously too stupid to understand that police unions =/= labor unions. Kbye", ">Too soon?\n\nThe hive mind says: yes!", "Fuck the government", "in us america government robs you comrade!", "A better example would be Kyle Rittenhouse; the media spun his case so far into the ether that practically everyone who identifies as a Liberal/Democrat \\still\\ believes that corrupt narrative. It's beyond the pale, the utter and absolute dishonesty with which the left media has twisted the story. Most of the people who think what the media sold them is the absolute truth (without ever once listened to or read the transcripts of the trial, watched any of the unedited video -of which there is plenty, by the way). It's been a circus of shocking and deliberate dishonesty and a large segment of the population would rather see the kid hung and his life destroyed much less allow him to have a proper trial and be judged by a jury of his peers. They wanted blood because they were trained to want it.\n\nArmand Arbery got his justice, if done so posthumously; his killers were ALL found guilty of murder and the jurors convicted them based on the facts presented at trial. It was an obvious and just conviction and most who followed the case believe it was the right decision, but not many followed the actual court proceedings or the trial; the media just fed them scraps and soundbites that fed their particular narrative and the public ate it up.\n\nRittenhouse didn't have the audiences sympathy, because the media didn't/doesn't want you to have it, so when he was cleared of all charges and found not guilty on all counts they wringed their hands and raged at the verdict because they believed the media narrative, not because they bothered to listen to the facts, follow the courtroom trial or read the court transcripts, watch the unedited video, etc.\n\nThe law should be impartial, fair and equal for EVERYBODY. It shouldn't be selective, and the scales should never tip for ANYONE in an unfair and blind way. It's not perfect, and we live in an imperfect Union, but we should have more respect for our legal system and fight to fix it when it's broken or unbalanced and cheer for it when it works.\n\nEDIT: words", "You could play this story off as something that happens in Mexico\n\nThe police - they're so corrupt. They pull you over and take whatever you legally own. Even the courts are controlled by cartel criminals. The government. The politicians. It's just natural that all these criminal elements with a badge and a gun are out to hunt and rob you for personal profit at your expense. And use made up legal fiction to justify it.\n\nYou could swap the names and locations for to make it sound like something that happened in China, Burma, Russia! You could sell these doctored stories to make some right wing US politician go \"uh huh, yup, that's expected of these shitholes!\"\n\nNo - this is happening in what is supposedly the greatest nation in the world. Where your right to due process and privacy are some of the strongest in the world. In theory.", "It's a shit trade-off, but I'd rather bourgeoisie criminals keep their dirty money than proletariat workers get robbed.", "Civil forfeiture should only be after conviction and with the burden of proof on the state that it came from criminal enterprises", "whatever country you're in has just as fucked rules in other ways.", "Hate to break it to ya buddy but ain't women doin' the rapin' in your example.", "> Why would they be afraid?\n\nFor literally the same reason you say neo liberal are afraid. How is this hard for you to understand? If democrats think that gun control will prevent fascist cops from dying then why do fascists oppose gun control? The two things can not coexist. You have some crazy dissonance happening.", "Dude. Everyone from the Americas outside of Canada and the USA refers to the collective people as Americans. To this day! The debate in South America is whether there are 2 Americas (north and south) or just 1. I've personally listened to Argentinians in Ushuaia calling themselves American. So to say that \"at the time of the founding\" is wildly inaccurate. It's always been the case, and continues to be so to this day. \n\nIt's just \"Americans\" from the US that think they own the moniker.", "it is protocol to handcuffed suspect even if they are shot dead. The EMS will pronounce the suspect dead.", "How does radar detect a $20 bill? Without there being something in the bill that reflects or retransmits RF energy back and modulated in a way to send useful info about itself? You'll get position and velocity information, but that's it.\n\nWe don't live in a magical scifi world, people. Learn how this stuff works.", "Nevada highway patrol are a bunch of cunts. \n\nWhen I was 16, my girlfriend, our friend and I were driving to California on the 15 behind highway patrol who was tailgating a mustang. They then turned their lights on and slowed down. We had a semi to the right of us so we slowed down and pulled behind the semi to pull off to the right shoulder. The cop slams on the gas, cuts off the semi and pulls us over gets out and screams at us for almost getting him into an accident.\n\nThen he goes on to say the car smelled like weed and he wanted to search it, and why are we driving a car with courthouse parking stickers on it. My girlfriends mother was the chief district Judge, so no, we didn't have any weed and that's why we had the sticker. He didn't give us a ticket, but he was still an asshole", "The fact that he's a veteran doesn't matter in the slightest. The fact that it's legal for cops to take someone's money without due process however, that does matter. It's legalized theft by another name.", "I mostly see it a little different. Is the same clips you likely refer to but the comments are full of asking for context in order to victim blame. Like very obvious stuff that even with context is extreme over steps by police. Comments are full of people saying “where is the rest of the video”, just the ole’ “he musta done somethin to deserve it”.", "Americans, im sorry you have to put up with this shit.", "Lucky they didn't plant anything.", "Highway Robbery (n):\n\n1. International English: robbery committed on or near a public highway usually against travelers\n2. US English: see \"Civil Forfeiture\"", "Never said it was, but they're not usually tearing up his car hoping to find cash hidden underneath the seats.", "There is no reason to want a speedy trial. Most cases don't go to trial but are settled in plea deals. Typically if a case goes to trial, it is because the defense has a really strong case, or the prosecution is trying to add more charges. If a defense REQUESTS a speedy trial, they will get one. But typically it never happens. If a defense WANTS to go to trial, it means they are really fucking confident in their case and any prosecution would see that and offer a very good plea or drop charges entirely. Even if a defense ISN'T confident in their case, by delaying a trial their client will get more time served off of their sentence. A defendent who is held awaiting trial is going to have a much better quality of life than he or she will have in prison. You're essentially just going to the commissary every day and killing time. So, say, a year of that and 3 years in prison is going to be preferable to 4 years in prison. \n\nI'm sorry you don't understand how courts work but saying the sixth amendment is dead in the US is fucking retarded. I'd love to see you walk up to an experienced attorney and ask him \"why didn't you request a speedy trial? The 6th amendment is dead!\" He'll tell you everything I just told you and call you a retard.", "Is it also protocol to shoot someone in the head after you shot them 8 times already?", " Yo fuck you fuck officer brown. Glad to hear the guy is getting his money back but fuck that was hard to watch. These fucking pigs are outta control man.", "I like how in the beginning “he’s following the truck too closely and going under the speed limit” then immediately the guy passes the truck but the cops mind is made up anyway. Fucking pigs.", "A police officer can just pick someone out of a crowd. Any old person. They can pull them over. The person has to comply. If they refuse to comply they are harmed/killed. The reason they’re being pulled over is irrelevant, especially if they don’t comply. \n\nThe police officer can ask to search their car. The other person can say yes or no. If they say no, it will eventually make a difference, but not immediately. The officer will search the car anyways. They could find money, drugs, food, beanie babies. Literally anything. They can seize the crumbs off your floor if they want. You can’t do anything about it. If you argue, they’ll warn you about hostility. If you get angry, they’ll manhandle you, and you’ll be arrested and likely jailed. If you react worse than that, they will straight up kill you.\n\nNow, say you were a person with wildly narcoleptic or murderous urges. Wouldn’t the police be an INCREDIBLE place to work??", "Unless those soldiers themselves agree with that war mongering.", ">>The money is guilty and has to be siezed.\n\nThat is the part that really grinds my gears. First I dont see how you assign guilt to an inanimate object without charging a legal entity. But what really pisses me off is how assigning guilt to money is only done in seizure cases. Look at the long list of corporations guilty of malicious malfeasance Purdue Pharma, GM, Exon, Bank of America etc. Etc. All have admitted to criminal wrong doing yet the money gained from their criminal behavior isn't seized. \n\nRules for thee but not for me...", "You are grossly misunderestimating the number of people the police pull over on a daily basis.\n\nIt's just raw probability. Pull over 100k folks a day or week or whatever, you'll find 5-10 with a duffel bag of cash.", "For all of the love this country claims to have for it's vets, we sure do get the shitty side of the deal most of the time.", "With zero probable cause.\n\nSeriously, they should never be allowed to seize anything without an arrest.", "And they don't get in any trouble on the off chance that the state has to return it. That's the most infuriating part of this whole thing. He's doing all of this, with his body cam running, because he knows that even if he doesn't get away with it he won't face any consequences.", "Gay rape has no victims? I dont get it.", "It's actually impressive how many crises today Joe Biden had a hand in creating. Seeing a staunch conservative like him be labeled a radical leftist would be funny if it weren't so depressing. The US Overton window is so fucked.", "Have money to protect and don't trust banks? Crypto is your friend. Sure there is volatility but it's the only way to truly control your wealth. Cop takes your wallet, You're out the price of the wallet, not the value in the wallet. The government can't even take your money with a court order, you have to give it up. Choose to refuse and they can take your house, car, whatever but not your crypto. That's yours and there is NOTHING anyone can do about it. Never has there been an asset like it.", "This is nuts. John Oliver did an episode on this bullshit a couple years ago and it’s still a thing. Wow… clap emoji", "Got me, I'm no lawyer. But here is [United States v. $124,700 in U.S. Currency](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._$124,700_in_U.S._Currency) for an example of how they play it.\n\nI guess they don't charge it with a crime, they sue it. Which is absolutely no less stupid.", "Police pull over more than 50,000 cars a day in the United States.", "The dog in that video was:\n\n1. 100% trained to sniff out money\n\n2. Not very good at its job; it took some zig zagging", "I think he’s mad. Must have some thin skin.", "what happens if they just turn off the body cams and shoot you?", "Because some of those that work forces.", "Wait then what the fuck is the United Kingdom and Whales?", "Their should be advertising from lawyers to help people get there money back. Sounds like it could be a 100 million dollar business right now.\n\nLara and his representatives concede some of his actions could raise questions. But advocates say the case shows how the federal government abuses its asset forfeiture authority, by requiring those whose property is taken to prove their innocence to get it back.", "I love how often they mention being a veteran, as if that entitles a person to higher tier of rights and a higher moral standard than the average person lmfao. The cops even say it as in \"we are equal since we are vets too\"", "This happened to us in Chicago. We didn't have cash but they were sure we did, because we had WA plates and they thought we were trafficking weed I think. We obviously weren't. The cop put my husband in his car and I immediately started looking up bondsmen. But my husband is very smart and basically told the cop he knew his rights and he wasn't scared of him. Somehow he talked his way out of the car and we drove for hours without stopping to get the fucking out of Illinois.", "Through any crypto exchange", "because they don’t have to, body cameras are checked on random and even if they’re caught, they just get a slap on the wrist or paid vacation.", "FUCK THE POLICE", "Why doesn't reddit insist on writing letters to senators?", "Civil forfeiture. \n\n\n.. And K-9 units. \nLaw enforcement have found ways to manipulate them only to suit their agenda and the classic \"hunch\".", "Not a single dollar in the bank or credit card, so if he loses that cash or the police seize it, he’s screwed, I understand not wanting to be forced to support the system but you have to at least have some sort of backup anything can happen, no wonder he was driving slow if he gets in an accident who knows what will happen to his cash.", "I think the big question is if you’re just a regular person, what the hell can you even do? I can’t sue based on a law being unconstitutional and I sure as hell can’t lobby Congress. Essentially the conman person is fucked.", "The whole country is suffering friend. Be kind to people. It's the least we can do for each other.", "> Such bullshit.\n\ncriminal behavior that reminds you why tarring and feathering was popular.\n\nfixed that for you.", "Just another day in america", "All Cats Are Beautiful", "And you don't think dogs alerting with the reliability of a coin flip being probable cause for asset forfeiture is an issue? What's next, gun detecting dowsing rods? Or maybe the police will use crystal wands to determine if I'm speeding or not?", "three hundred and fitty thousand.", "Tell me how the police aren't a gang again.", "no you weren't, because that's not a crime nor suspicious.", "You’re telling me that this man drove with his life savings in cash?", "The issue here is that they are able to act like he has committed a crime and it is on him to prove that he has not. What happened to innocent until proven guilty?", "That's just WEIRD", "Well yeah, they aren't going to let you hurt them.", "https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kids_for_cash_scandal\n\nOr this scandal where a pair of judges made millions in kickbacks denying due process to thousands of children and sending them to juvenile detention centres while simultaneously defunding the county detention centre.", "I’d love to see that argued.\n\nFrom a European perspective, it seems that America was blessed with insignificance to gain independence. (When compared to France)", "Regular citizens ARE regularly fucked. Billions stolen from honest Americans. I studied asset forfeiture a fair bit in college and some of the cases were ludicrous. One that comes to mind was a child’s parent’s car was seized because the child drove a friend to school who was later busted for selling drugs. fundamentally asset forfeiture rests on the legal principle that property can be guilty of a crime. It’s a racket.", "You read the report where there was nothing there but they told the handlers where there could be drugs and that’s where the dogs alerted, and that’s what you got from it. \n\nLike I said, you’ve made up your mind.", "[Here’s a post ](https://reddit.com/r/texas/comments/r6mfau/67_of_texans_want_to_legalize_it_so_why_dont_our/)in /r/texas about how 67% of Texans want to legalize it but their shitty conservative politicians (bought and paid for by every industry you can think of) refuse to pass legislation.\n\nClearly the Citizens of the United States are no longer driving the car (we never have been). Seems we’re being detained in the back seat and forced to just watch.", "How about lefties start hanging out with the Libertarians they have lots to agree on. Instead of bosting Liberals voting roles they could partner up with the ones that can actually get on the ballot. \n\nI bet most progressives would find more common ground with any libertarian than with Pelosi.", "I was laughing while thinking about what to type to the dumbfuck OP. It was quite fun pointing out how stupid he is🤣", "People just would rather be blissfully ignorant than deal with reforming a hundreds year old system. I'm an American and I do hope to fix some of it someday, or at least have a positive meaningful impact. The average person here does seem to think that somehow there's some politician that can help them. There isn't. Anyone's biggest mistake is thinking a political figure cares about you at all, for change to happen it needs to begin with the people. Only the people can bring change to their country.", "You were the one to bring up \n>he’s behind on taxes and child support which is why he “doesn’t trust banks”\n\nThey are asking you to back this claim up. Link to the other response. It is not up the the person asking for proof to seek it. You made a claim, so back it up with evidence. Otherwise your point is moot.\n\nAnd before you start making wild claims again, i have searched this thread for this proof you are talking about, and only have found 1 other comment of a redditor saying \"edit: yeap, hes behind on taxes and child support. (pro-tip, this is not proof)", "The term you're looking for is reasonable suspicion, which is a much lower standard than probable cause. The cops in the video probably could've cobbled something together just based on the info provided, i.e. guy driving a rental from Texas to California, plus the money. \n\nThe man in the video would've been best served just keeping his mouth shut and not giving anything to the police.", "As if [anything has changed.](https://www.justice.gov/afp/reports-0)", "Fair, for most of the YouTube legal expert crowd the issues come up when you get a No for \"Am I free to go?\" And they get stuck in that loop. \n\nOn the flip side if they had no specific reason to pull you over the answer might be yes.", "Anarchy it is then.", "That's what the Haitians get for being the only successful slave rebellion to form their own country!\n\n/S, should be obvious, but people like to get mad", "Yes but I guess my point is your FYI was useless because I’m pretty sure he knew that. He posted it after all.\n\nOr are you just used to googling things that have the keywords that support your point?", "The most important thing that every person watching this should learn, is that you never talk to police. Police are not advocates for the innocent.", "They tried doing [that to me.](https://youtu.be/l9MFzgLiWe4) Thankfully I wasn't forced out of my vehicle, hence why I gave him my ID when I didn't have to.", "> The debate in South America is whether there are 2 Americas (north and south) or just 1\n\nWell I have heard many in Latin America to designate 3 Americas (north, central and south) - some places put the Caribbean as a separate category and some others add to the central america.", "Please quote where I said that civil asset forfeiture was ok. I can't seem to remember saying that. I'm sure arguing against strawmen makes you feel really smart though.", "I am speechless.", "Biden introduced the civil forfeiture bill... in 1983.", "If you refuse breathylizer or blood, you will lose you license. It's part of the affidavit of consent you sign when you receive your driver's license.", "Sounds like Wisconsin to me. The GOP has systematically gerrymandered the state to ensure they are always in power in the state legislature. This way if it's clear they will loose the governor's race they pass a bill stripping the office of all power, which they will of course repeal if it's GOP canidate. On top of this the WI courts are completely okay with this.\n\nAnd if I remember correctly they are also looking at passing a bill that would allow the state legislature to determine who gets the states electors regardless of the popular vote in general elections.\n\nUnless federal laws are passed that somehow make these illegal, and it doesn't get shot down by the SC, Wisconsin is fucked six ways to Sunday.", "While everything you said NOW it's true, you are NOT LEGALLY OBLIGED to give cops your name or license until they state why they stopped you.", "Back the blue. If you aren’t breaking the law you have nothing to worry about. Right?", "Millimeter radar can do this. We can see inside a room with a resolution of about a foot using just an active wifi router and a passive listener outside. Having a radio source designed for the job can provide half millimeter resolution through most materials of any object on the other side. It's basically an xray.\n\nSo it is in fact you sir who doesn't understand. I will accept your apology through bitcoin or a reddit comment. Your understanding of radar is from older technology.\n\nI doubt police have radar this sophisticated but there is open source software that can provide pretty high resolution someone could build out for a few hundred bucks.", "You see how that's a problem that the system created, not an inherent one, yes? Hence the other commenters use of \"shouldn't be.\"", "and why isn't it a bank?", "Cops have to have reasonable reasons to search your vehicle, then the DA or whoever has to prove that it within reasons.\n\nNever let them take you out of the vehicle, ask them what their cause for pulling you over and stfu. Never volunteer any information until the lawyer gets there and never answer any question. If the cops end up arresting you, stfu. Wait until you've met with the lawyer. Most decent lawyer will not only gets you out, but will also ensure that you might get your asset back.\n\nOh, and remember RULE ONE: STFU", "The real recourse is having the court throw out any illegally obtained evidence but by that point you’ve been\n\n1: arrested\n\n2: Bailed out hopefully\n\n3: it’s been six fucking months", "That's what happens when a country puts the national anthem in schools and teaches the population to idolise those who go to war, instead of those who help the injured, the sick, and the poor.", "yeah but that seizure wouldn't come from local authorities. It would be from the FBI", "There's no one gang in particular. That's just one way they are formed in some places.", "Yeah, I made up my mind to agree with a unanimous decision of the Supreme Court from 2014. You read an article with an obvious bias that because every handler isn't infallible that they can't be relied on at all.", "Does that also apply for a foreigner I was always wondering if these \"hard\" stances against police searches work for a non citizen as well...", "I'd love to see if they did, because why wouldn't they? It's not like they'll get punished.\n\nImagine seeing somebody doing one of the safest, most sensible things that someone could do when intoxicated and in possession of a vehicle, and thinking \"Nah, they're a criminal. Let's fuck up their life.\" Because remember, you can beat the rap, but you can't beat the ride. Automatic suspension. A DUI has the potential to ruin lives, as we've seen.\n\nAnd cops know this. Fuck, apparently they must revel in it. Nothing better to them than knowing that they had the power to make an innocent person waste thousands of dollars, months of their life, and potentially lose their job and the respect of their friends and peers.", "Some of us care, and are scrambling to protect the remaining freedoms while we ready the fight for those that have been stolen.", "Lol he's literally rubbing his hands together when he asks about the cash...", "Honestly, just don't keep large amounts of money in cash. It doesn't need to be a traffic stop, they can do this wherever (I believe(?) even in your home, if they have a pretense to come in). That's the main mistake that guy did... \"I don't trust banks\" is an understandable sentiment from an abstract socio-political standpoint, but when it comes to \"will they lose your money\", a reputable bank is a lot safer than keeping physical valuables in a country where highway robbery is legal.", "Speedy trial rule is definitely not dead, speaking as a lawyer. It's just that it's usually not in your best interest actually use it. Prosecutors don't file their cases until they are ready for trial so they're usually ready first. Demanding a speedy trial almost always means that the state will be more prepared than the defense.", "Butters! You are grrrounded!", "You don't just leave. You record them and ask if you're being detained. If they lie and say yes then you don't leave because they'll do that. If you have them on record saying no and that you're free to leave they'd have to be some really stupid cops to do anything to you. Like not just evil but actually stupid to not just lie to you.", "This is LITERAL highway robbery.", "Yeah, independent studies have shown that drug dogs will often \"find\" something because it pleases their handler and they get rewarded. They absolutely can and do find drugs. But the way they're trained and treated makes false positives very common.", "If you’re here legally then you are just as protected by the same laws.", "Same exact thing in Rhode Island. \"Too close to a truck\" and then asked me what was in my backpack at least 4 times before letting me go without a ticket.", "I'm glad we agree", "Gay rape isn't a feminist issue because women aren't involved or the victims.\n\nPeople misconstrue feminisms goal of equality, it's not to balance the equality of the two sexes, merely to boost women's rights and benefits to the same level of a man in society.\n\nIf men have an issue we should be addressing it her our own social movement that addresses men's problems in life, yet most of these movements are merely puppets for incel level woman hating, barely if at all touching on important men's issues.", "This should be posted in the fan groups for those blue line dingdongs.", "I said that because of a conversation I had with a friend that was a local cop in my area. In short, I fit the profile of someone bringing back drug money from a city to the north by being in an out of state car and 'seeming like I didn't want to be pulled over'. I was not speeding, I was not warned or cited for anything in any way. The cop said, and I quote, \" a lot of drugs come though this area and we want to make sure everyone is safe\". Then he asked to search my car. In the end I didn't let him search(because I was pissed), but they still walked a drug dog around the car before they let me leave.\n\nApparently the area I was in was notorious for these random stops and there were lawsuits over it. I posted a longer version of this story in this thread.", "I mean if they don't smoke then they probably don't care that much", "Cops target people from out of state or with lots of luggage. People moving can be running away from something, doesn't matter good or bad, but odds are they have cash on them. \n \nDrug runners/mules often travel over many states either with cash or drugs. \n\nThat's why if you're driving through Ohio matching the speed of everyone around you but aren't from Ohio you'll be pulled over 10/10 times.", "\"fuck the police\" just never goes out of style. No sympathy for what happens to them.", "You ask permission to leave. Sure they can lie but if they're trying to bully you within the law they'll have to tell you no you are not being detained and that you are free to leave.", "I personally know someone that is a registered sex offender for protesting indecency laws while topless. It's a fucking misdemeanor that carries ten years on that stupid list. So, yeah, sex offender lists can fuck right off. Especially harsh sex offender laws just mean innocent people will get railroaded even harder.", "The wording on that case law is pretty grey. I don't remember the exact verbage, but eventually it says they can't make you wait any longer than it takes for them to conduct the normal affairs of a routine traffic stop.\n\nIn other words, they can't make you wait longer than it would take to write out citations.", "Yeah I mean fair. I thought the same thing at the time. But the cops probably shouldn't rob you.\n\nedit: also she stripped. Had tons of cash. I get how it's dumb but that's an easy profession to understand how they have a cash nest egg.", "Yes, cops suck, so do their partners who enable idiocy, and the system that would sweep up otherwise innocent folks on their shit.\n\nAs if the world doesn’t have real criminals they can go after, or for that matter, real drunk drivers.", "The first and second are integral to defending the rest, hence their placement", ">supposedly the greatest nation in the world.\n\n😂🤣\n\nYou're kidding, right? Does anybody still genuinely believe that bullshit?", "\"The dog alerted on the cash\"\n\ni.e. \"The officer signaled for the dog to alert when it was sniffing the cash\"", "That's for an entirely different process called criminal asset forfeiture which can only begin after you've been convicted of a crime where the property being seized is reasonably believed to have been purchased with illicit means. \n\nBut civil asset forfeiture came later when cops kept ending up having to give back large sums of cash that they couldn't prove was criminal under criminal asset forfeiture. So they made another law to make it easier for them to seize \"large\" sums of cash until the owner proves the lawful means by which it was earned. \n\nSo if you're a stripper you'd have to chase down old receipts from the club, assuming you actually kept up with all your tips on paper with work. Plenty of other legal scenarios where this fucks people of their life savings or money they were going to use for a car/house", "I actually made a short film about civil forfeiture. It's so unfair.\nhttps://vimeo.com/464056955", "I’m going to use age 20 for the person you’re describing as a kid. This kid has waited 15 percent of his entire life for his “fast and speedy” trial. Nobody can guarantee he will wake up tomorrow, much less make it to age 60. But a 60 year old would have to spend 9 years in jail awaiting trial for this not to be age discrimination against younger people. In America, people are about to figure out that they should defend themselves violently against police officers and claim that they thought it was a civilian impersonating an officer because of the way the officer was behaving, and felt their life was threatened and have a right to defend themselves. It won’t work as a defense in court, but if the police get a hold of you for any reason, guilty or innocent, your life is gone. I think people are going to come to the conclusion that dying on their feet is better than dying over the course of years while society shits on you and forgets about you because the police can’t stop being liars and cowards and criminals. At least if that happens each police officer might start thinking twice about why they’re fucking with people and who they’re fucking with and whether they might catch that person on the wrong day.", "I thought you were going to link [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgWHrkDX35o) video.", "If it affected fetuses or guns folks woulda perked up really quick", "You're lumping all gangs into one. They're not all the same. Much like lumping all republicans into Trump supporters. They're not all the same.", "I think it's safer to assume they were just looking for \"something.\"", "Reminds me of an old joke:\n\nThree prisoners are sitting in Soviet gulag. They ask the first prisoner: \"What are you in for?\"\n\nMy watch was 5 minutes late so I was always late for work. They arrested me for sabotage.\n\nThey asked the second guy: \"What are you in for?\"\n\nMy watch was 5 minutes early, so I always arrived early for work. I was arrested on suspicion of espionage.\n\nFinally they turn to the third guy: \"And what are you in for?\"\n\nAhh, well, my watch was always perfectly on time. So eventually they found out that it was smuggled in from the West.", "Didn’t he get that back?", "Yeah it's a bullshit rule. I had a friend who had 2 grams in two seperate bags, one for me and one for her. She got pulled over and threatened with distribution. Cop ended up just dumping the weed out and letting her go with a warning.", "I feel like your odds of ending up in a body bag go up astronomically if you do this.", "He can't count to 11 lol that's rough.", "Not as bad = More good \n\n\nAgain, attempting to elevate trump by comparing to Bush", "I have a copy/paste response for people that honestly believe things like you in regard to “conservative authoritarians” and etc. I hope you enjoy. \n\n - The right and center have no cultural or institutional power right now and are not advocating for racial hatred, critical race theory indoctrination and radicalization, advocating for neighbors to spy and snitch on neighbors causing a culture of fear, open borders, mandatory vaccines, and vaccine passports to just grocery shop or work, allowing cities to burn and be looted for months, unconstitutional lockdowns or ending ID’s to vote which allow for fraud.\n\n The left control Hollywood, banking, the FED, the IRS, The CIA, FBI, ATF, DEA,the executive and legislative branch, the education system, the music industry, universities, tech monopolies, the media, the military industrial complex, the culture, the narrative, and 90% of US billionaires are registered Democrats while 70% of millionaires are as well registered Democrats and yet you still must control more and others and think you are the “resistance”.", "It doesn’t cause things pretty much cost the same as they did 2 years ago. \n\nYou saying that bitcoin went up 100% means shit cause it’s a select few speculating on a currency that isn’t even used to buy good. It’s only good for making and losing money in a short term period", "According to the organization that made this video (Institute for Justice; [https://ij.org/activism/legislation/civil-forfeiture-legislative-highlights/](https://ij.org/activism/legislation/civil-forfeiture-legislative-highlights/) ) only 4 states have abolished civil forfeiture — North Carolina (1985), New Mexico (2015), Nebraska (2016), and Maine (2021).", "Road Pirates.", "^^^It's ^^^the ^^^right.", "They literally ask you straight up if you have large amounts of cash on you....hahaah what are you talking about??!!", "some 6 months later", "> Whenever men want to band together about causes that are important to men as a whole, we get torn down by feminists\n\nSurely you must have many examples of this, right?", "I'm very happy for you. However, and I know this might be a shock, other people exist and it has happened for them. That experience might cause other people (again, humans that are not you) to distrust banks.", "if they get rid of civil forfeiture how will all the Sheriffs in South Carolina be able to afford their toys?", "What would you have us do? Start a civil war?\n\nThe thing is, there isn't exactly a huge shortage of people who given the right circumstances would take up arms. The issue is that there has to be a banner to rally behind, some horrible atrocity to get EVERYONE riled up at once, a last straw. Our government won't let that happen, they're not idiots. They know as long as they keep up separated into nice little \"leftwing\" and \"rightwing\" boxes we'll spend all our time fighting with eachother while they erode away our rights till we couldn't possibly put up a fight anymore. Look at reddit itself, super left wing and anything right leaning tends to be piled on and cast as evil, when in reality it's all shades of grey and personal ideals and if we pulled together we might all learn something. Compromise.\n\nThere's no possibility of a civil war with a united populace. The vast majority of the service members will refuse to fight their own countrymen if all their countrymen are united under one banner. The government would just fall. If they keep us in neat little boxes fighting with eachother it's a much different story since the general public is more concerned with rooting for or against whichever corporate puppet happens to be in the big chair at the moment. United we stand, divided we fall...and we are very much divided.", "If you transferring more than 5k than you will switch to legit banks. \n\n Ann transfer are even cheaper than the transfers Venmo or cash app offers", "Data for crimes and violence, but do they keep data for the good?", "I personally believe the law should indicate that police officers should have to announce the very reason they pulled you over in the first place as the first thing they say.\n\nAnd, again, as I state, in my other reply, they will always have a reason.\n\nBut the law should be, a police officer pulls you over and the very first thing they have to say by law is \"I am pulling you over for speeding\" (obviously this would be some bullshit legalese like pulling you over for subsection 12.4.5 of the legal code\" but that is beside the point).\n\nI can't understand, nor do I think it's fair, to ask a question like \"what do you think you did?\" because most people, being reasonable, are going to incriminate themselves on that very point accidently... the cop stopped you for speeding but you say \"was it because I didn't stop fully at that stop sign?\". and wammo... more potentially charges.", "It's possible you miss context through short term memory and also fail to pay attention to wording. But if that isn't the case, then you obviously don't know much about Americans.", "Reminder that everyday is shut the fuck up friday \n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgWHrkDX35o", "(In the U.S.) Saying anything doesn't help your case. “Anything you say can and will be used against you in the court of law.” It does not say that it can and will be used to help you.", "You’re absolutely right, that’s the only thing I read on it. You win, drugs dogs are great.", "The thin blue line of abject lawlessness and zero accountability.", "I did learn something new. I can admit that. But like you said, I highly doubt they are blasting people at border and police checkpoints with this, and if they were there probably are about to be some huge debates about privacy and 4th amendment rights (if you're in the US).", "More assets are seized by the government than actual burglaries in the USA. Civil forfeiture laws put innocent property owners at risk and encourage law enforcement to police for profit, with billions of dollars forfeited each year. “[Policing for Profit: The Abuse of Civil Asset Forfeiture](https://ij.org/press-release/new-report-finds-civil-forfeiture-rakes-in-billions-each-year-does-not-fight-crime-2/),” released by the Institute for Justice in 2015, “Most laws still stack the deck against property owners and give law enforcement perverse financial incentives to pursue property over justice.”", "Can’t tell if your joking or not.", "Cause it doesn’t need to be? Some people just feel safer if they have their money with them. I don’t see how that would be weird", "Damn, how long of a period of time for those 6 tickets? \n\nI’ve driven over 70k miles in the past 3 years mostly for my job, majority of that on cross country highways, and I’ve been pulled over i think twice in that time, one for out of state plates and the next one was expired reg, no tickets though. My car is lowered and has gold wheels even, I’m honestly surprised I haven’t been stopped more often. \n\nMy last ticket was a speeding ticket in 2015 that got refunded for no reason after I had paid it, that was pretty cool.", "Jesus!", "True! \n\nAnd they're all Americans.\n\nAlthough, truthfully, I don't know any folks from the Caribbean to call themselves anything but, their nationality, Caribbean or West Indian (but that's mostly in reference to cricket in my limited sample size)", "Thank god for the second, only reason that cops have to roll heavy(and expensive). The powers that be are going to learn that little addon really hosed their plans for nice compliant population.", "And yet it happened to me. Held for over 30 minutes while they waited for a k9 unit, released me until the unit showed up last second and then halted the release. They will \"write tickets\" until the unit shows, its not \"holding\" you... yikes", "That is true.", "LOL at down votes. It's literally true that this could not have happened if his money was in bitcoin and not cash. \ndownvoters NGMI.", "The theives should be tortured imo.", "You’re a bit high strung. It’s okay", " You can make a pretty good case for the third amendment being dead, as well. Especially with how increasingly militarized the police have become, thanks to things like the 1033 Program that give police access to genuine military equipment like MRAPs and machine guns so long as they promise to use them.", "Freedom to get fucked", "You don't think the fed creates money out of thin air? Interesting.", "This happen in red states more than in blue states.", "Too.... Jewish.", "Fuck the police", "Cop needed an all expenses paid trip to Aruba.", "This happened to me one time after a week of working at the club. I was on the way to the bank, and got pulled over with thousands in cash. Told the officer I was a stripper and he became so uncomfortable he let me go. He even forgot to give me a well deserved speeding ticket. Before I mentioned I was a stripper he was willing to throw the books at me. r/unethicallifeprotips \nTLDR: say you're a stripper if you get pulled over with a lot of cash and they'll let you go", "I don't get why these cops are not doxxed and shamed more. (not here on reddit specifically) but in general. ESPECIALLY for this bs. Let everyone that knows them they are ok with stealing money. Put their face out where they live. It annoys me that they can go back to the burbs and hide the fact they stole a guys life savings under false pretense.", "Thats not what feminists say. They say men dont need similar groups because feminism includes taking care of mens issues. Lol you are suggesting creating mens rights groups. Being called an MRA is literally a slur these days.", "Thank god we have the police to protect our natural parks from weed smokers", "Fuckery like this is why I just stay the fuck away from my car if I've been drinking. You shouldn't have had to go through any of this, but unfortunately Driving Under the Influence doesn't seem to require actually driving these days", "I mean, comparably to third world countries yea, but if we’re talking first world nations, doesn’t even crack the top ten; failing democracy, imploding economy, whack prison/medical systems, whack gun laws, major obesity problem, terrible education system (K-12 specifically), honestly the US seems to take a step back yearly", "> While everything you said NOW it's true\n\nNot sure what you mean? and I agreed with you. If you are implying I edited my point in such a way where I changed my opinion, I didn't. In fact I went out of my way to say I was wrong (not related to the issue you are talking about - which I never changed anyways)", "when i was 17 my teacher (a retired LT. from the Navy) sat us down and told us about a bunch of driving advice/tips. this was one of them. he told us to NEVER travel anywhere with more than a grand in cash because southern states will take it from you. \n\nnone of us understood what he was saying or why... like, that cant happen...\n\nwhen i was 19 i came across a case from a friend who was starting pre-law. it was a lawyer who was driving to buy a car. he had about 60 or so grand in his car in cash. i think it may have been Tennessee iirc. he was pulled over, he refused a search, a dog was brought on scene and alerted to his back seat. this gave them probable cause to search. its worth noting at this time, he was NOT allowed to leave. \n\nthey opened the back and found his cash. they took it. \n\nhe then fought for about 4 years to get it back and he succeeded, however it had cost him close to twenty grand to fight it... so he got back his money, less 20 grand, and god knows how much time and effort over a 48 month period...\n\npart of this included his disclosure and in his information requests the lawyer/victim published accounting documents showing lavish purchases in the local police departments for espresso machines, weight rooms, TV's and video gaming equipment among others.", "You look it up. \n\nLook bro, I honestly don't give a fuck if you agree with it or don't. It's a .org, but you want a .gov. If I gave you a .gov, you'd want something with more sources. I'm not trying to change your opinion because I don't know you.", "A black father drives the speed limit for the safety of their children in the car.\n\nCop: “Is that a criminal?”", "He shouldn't have given them the right to search. They didn't have probable cause. Even if they searched and took the money anyways, he'd have better legal recourse in court.", "That's insane! I haven't spent much time in Wisconsin (I'm Canadian), but I've been through it. It seemed really nice, with warm people. It reminded me of Manitoba. I don't know how they could stand for that! Even as a republican that's got to leave some awful taste in your mouth. \n\nI can't abide political machinations like that, and I know that would absolutely drive me up the pole.", "What does this have to do with capitalism?", "Disgusting and shameful Public no brainer but yet they do not!!!", "So pointing out that it was a dumb move is entirely irrelevant", "Understand that to be detained only require \"reasonable articulable suspicion that criminal activity is afoot\".\n\nThat burden of proof is absolutely miniscule. You could have just turned off a road that some one once gotten arrested for possession with intent, and saw you making furtive movements when they got behind you. Boom, RAS, call for a K9.\n\nI still say politely refuse the search, make them actually work for it and document it all. Key word there is polite. You can even politely disagree with their RAS or PC, but stay cool and polite. \n\nSource: 18 year cop.", "It’s 2021. You should know that pigs are agents of evil. Why do people still consent to their requests?", "Highay and state patrol are common thieves with badges and guns", "When you include robberies and theft, the cops end up only taking about 1/3 of that amount (it’s in the article, too). It’s awful and inexcusable but the article headline is a lie and click bait.", "If trained appropriately they won't false signal. They are somewhat like robots in detection. If they hit a scent they will alert and their sniffers are incredible.", "Simply the united kingdom's of the British isles.\nEngland, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.", "So then how is it “straight up corruption”?", "Welcome to america.", "Fuck the police.", "What did it demonstrate? That some people didn't know what one reddit post was about so that means the entire US is devoid of any knowledge of world history? They do teach it here, I had world history in middle school, high school and a college class. Doesn't mean I remember everything from it or even most. It's almost like people who live in one country are very likely to know far more about the history of that country than another. It's also always hilarious to me how people complain about American's while being a bunch if smug bastards themselves.", "Mother Fuckers!", "Or say a fire starts in his car. Everything gone.", "The Tennessee state police and the \"drug task force\" steal money from people literally all the time. It's absurd.\n\nIf you drive I-40 much you'll pretty often see uhauls or trailers with people's belongings strown everywhere. They'll search all your bags and throw clothes out on the ground then just leave without putting anything back. The goons are known to just search for cash and leave everything else. \"Drug Task Force\" my fuckin ass, it's legalized highwaymen.", "Sure - that's the continuation of the House bill. \n\nIntroduced to the senate [by the party which controlled the senate \$R\$](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_United_States_Senate_elections) \n\nSponsor: \t[Sen. Thurmond, Strom](https://www.congress.gov/member/james-thurmond/T000254) [R-SC] (Introduced 08/04/1983)", "I hate this officer’s actions and everything about what happened here, but the whole “you people support these people” part is a bit of a generalization, to put it lightly. There’s over 700,000 officers employed in the US, the <1% of those which have been featured in the news being absolute tyrants, do not and should not represent the whole. They should of course be punished to the fullest extent of the law, as is expected. \n\nThat being said, the amount of people who see something like this and act befuddled that anyone supports any cops ever, is silly. Obviously this is one man, not the entire police population, featured in this video.\n\n“Ohhh but all cops are evil because if there were any good cops they’d help to get rid of the bad cops” Good news for you, there are and they do, every day. Just doesn’t make as good of a headline, and doesn’t bring in the big bucks to talk about it on TV. Of course I’m glad organizations like this bring attention to these cases, but there’s no need to make wide assumptions about hundreds of thousands of people who you’ve never met or even heard of before.", "the first and second amendments are already gone.\nsource:gun regulation and gag orders", "Are those American police, or are they the GESTAPO?", "Fuck the police", "Did you just… Did you just say I know you are but what am I?", "Court precident would make it a 4th amendment violation as they've done similar things with aerial recon by police w/o a warrant. That shit isn't enforced though and they would do it until they get sued for it.\n\nIdk the police software market is incredible. The sigint available to police departments are so sophisticated today. It is more sophisticated than the Cia's best sigint software 10 years ago.", "Just so you know you could have still denied them to search your bag. Since, it is your property no one else has the right to wave your 4th amendment for you.", "Yes they do. They have been doing it since forever and are keeping this country stable. \n\nI don’t want a bunch rich people hoarding money that’s stays the same value for all of time.", "Actually kinda glad to see Civil Asset forfeiture getting this much attention. Such a fringe idea to a lot of people that’s fucking over everyday people.", "Life has a lot going on you know? Hard to provide for and raise a family and find room o squeeze in un-fucking your government.", "Get that money a lawyer", "Shouldn’t that be an easy layup court case? I mean it seems like you could defend yourself with just a pocket constitution.", "No doubt it's drug money. Just totally wrong of the cops.", "Yeah this isn’t even close to true. If the cops want to detain you, they will. If they want to search your car, they will. Being difficult is just increasing your chances of getting arrested and / or killed by the police. It’s despicable to victim blame and say this guy should have done X, Y, or Z, and he would have been fine. He did nothing wrong. The cops did.", "Do they want a Rambo? This is how you get Rambos.", "This feels like some Kafkaesque bullshit straight out of the movie Brazil.", "I am not justifying the cop killing the suspect because I don't believe the shooting was justified. But the cop that did kill the suspect will not face real charges because they will argue the suspect on the wheelchair with the knife out was going back in Lowe's toward the Lowe's employee who flagged down officers and told them that the suspect stole some items.", "Umm...this started with Biden's 1994 crime bill.", "Not in Chicago", "Big world, lot of smells.", "Americans choose this. Don't feel sorry. Americans could change things if they wanted.", "Legit question, what if you've complied with identifying yourself and they command you to step out of your vehicle? Can you say no? Can they do anything about you saying no?", "Yeah, the backlash to his opinion on seeking reelection really says it all. Dems have 2 and a half years to build a viable team, because the threat of Trump isn't gonna cut it a second time.", "He made this happen, and the VP is a pig herself.", "Sure, parties are bad, but listen to Joe in his own words. \nhttps://youtu.be/OCB1ailIWNU", "I have a friend from law school who works for a federal law enforcement agency and does asset forfeiture. Her agency at least seems to do it well and they focus on scenarios where criminal prosecution is impossible because the criminal is overseas or unknown (they do a lot of internet scam investigations where some lonely old guy was duped out of his retirement by someone catfishing him on Facebook). That’s about the only time I’m ok with civil administrative forfeiture. It would be nice if you had to take it to a judge unless the government can affirmatively prove that criminal prosecution is not possible.", "Literal highway robbery", "LOL. Your country is in complete shambles.", "Bitcoin prevents this", "Completely coincidental, I'm sure.", "being aware of the president's previous career highlights = derangement.", "Fucking disgusting. Hope the lawsuit sticks.", "Do not just shut up. Specifically ask for a lawyer and say nothing else. Ask for your lawyer. Lawyer. Lawyer. Lawyer. \n\n\"You are looking guilty asking for a lawyer, kid\"\n\nLawyer. Lawyer. Lawyer. Am I free to go? \n\nIf yes, leave. \n\nIf no, Lawyer. Lawyer. Lawyer. Ask for your Lawyer. \n\nyou get the point", "Can I search your vehicle?\n\nNo.", "Pretty sure that guy was Navy", "Absolutely horseshit that needs to end but also holy fuck what the fuck are you doing carrying that much cash you're just kinda asking for any number of really horrible things to go wrong.", "People care, just that the ones at the levers of power don't.", "Well said my friend.", "Of all the people commenting and upvoting the post, how many are going to do something to stop this from happening?", "I wouldn't offer them that much trust. There's more that a few cases that have shown up on /r/legaladvice specifically with Bank of America incorrectly transferring funds out of accounts and being a real pain in the ass to get it fixed.", "A man driving through Nevada with a relatively large sum of cash!? Why ever would someone do that!?", "It is more accurate to say that the British over extended themselves in the wake of the Spanish defeat in the War of the Quadruple Alliance, and then doubled down and critically over extended themselves in the Seven Year's War. \n\nThis allowed an economically and militarily weaker France to use the American Revolution as a major distraction and force multiplier in the Anglo-French war - resulting in the first major victory France had over England in almost 100 years. Leading to French dominance of Europe (though Britain continued to dominate the globe) for almost 100 years following.", "Yikes that's hella fucked up. But my point still stands. Ask if you're being detained. If they say no ask \"well then I'm free to leave right?\" And make sure you're recording when you do. If they say you're not free to leave don't fight them. Just wait until it gets to court if anything comes out of it. \n\n\nYou'll never win by fighting the cops POC or not.", "It's one of the worst countries in the developed world. Of course this shit goes on.", "There’s got to be a number of them that wind up dead every year.", "Just because he's a vet doesn't mean he's truthful", "It seems outrageous because it is.\n https://www.forbes.com/sites/instituteforjustice/2014/06/05/cops-in-texas-seize-millions-by-policing-for-profit/", "How about we don’t give highway cops access to weapons. Require that they always have to call for backup that specializes in using weapons correctly in situations that require them and only use them as a last resort. Too many trigger happy pigs that are itching to hurt or kill people in the name of justice. It’s so shitty.", "Thank you!\n\nWe shouldn't have to memorize a small book's worth of information just to have a basic interaction with law enforcement that doesn't get you arrested or killed.\n\nIt's good to know what to do, but holy hell should this be a non-issue.", "Try not paying property tax on the land you \"own\".\n\nWe are slaves.", "So, can the veteran get his cash back, or is it just.. gone?", "Yeah, it was ridiculous. I ended up writing a letter to the judge asking to review it and got it knocked down to around $400. Still ridiculous, but I wasn't exactly driving all the way back out to Jean, Nevada to fight it.", "Whoop dee doo. Doesn’t give the cop a right to do anything", "You think the economy is stable? Wow lol okay then. You have rich people hoarding money and inflation at 30 year highs.", "Look into who did nothing to change it for last 38 years. Every fucking politician that exists. But you can probably pinpoint all the problems to 1 guy.", "Fuck civil forfeiture.\n\nI'm not even an American and the mere concept of this makes my blood boil", "Of course they're not all the same, but we have large scale data that shows general trends.", "Do they sign anything saying they took the cash? I want to know in case my job says I stole their cash, but I say \"nope the cops stole the cash\"", "Today we do yes. There was a context of a time period you missed.", "First one didn't work. Went to court & lost (had to pay ticket + legal fees), and had to wait in his car for at least an hour. Second one also had to pay the ticket. Doesn't seem like this strat works except to piss off the cops", "I think they were being tongue in cheek since the poster above presumably meant to write 'Revolutionary War' and instead mentioned the Civil War so they were doing a reversal as a joke.", "No but they have data on totals, and you can subtract to find the difference", ">Police pulled over Lara near Reno on February 19. After he consented to a search, the officers discovered\n\nಠ_ಠ", "I have denied searches many times and never had them actually search when I have. A couple times they've acted like they were going to get the dogs out there, I guess to see if it would scare me into agreeing, but I didn't, and they never called them.\n\nEven if they do find some probable cause to search your car after you've denied a search, you stand a lot better chance of getting any trouble you get in because of it thrown out in court because you can then fight their reasoning for searching your car.", "This is such stupid fucking advice and you will get someone arrested or killed by parroting this nonsense on Reddit. Once the cops have stopped you, your legal rights go out the window. Try and leave a traffic stop like you suggested, and, sure, your family can sue to police after they shoot you to death.", "Yikes", "Nah, it was about rich people getting not wanting to pay taxes for the wars on the frontier we kept starting.", "All of Michigan is considered so that's fun", "Only ever lived on the east coast but this holds true there.\n\nIf you are going the speed limit, you better be in the far right lane, because people will fly right by you, sometimes honking.\n\nBut then you have to slow down a bunch randomly because people don't seem to know how to merge on on-ramps at the appropriate speed, coming up to merge at 45mph.", "Yeah I know. Just figured others may not.", "You know what would fix this? \n\nEvery time a cop instigates a search with a dog, it gets documented. If the dog “alerts” and drugs are not found, a mark goes on the report. If enough marks get present over time, the dog gets decommissioned. If enough dogs are decommissioned then either you’re a shitty ass cop or dogs shouldn’t be used to circumvent our human liberties.", "Execute them", "Nah, man, you just look like a fucking clown to everyone else", "A few points: first, if you're operating a motor vehicle on public roads, almost all states give the police authority to stop and identify you. Always provide the documents you are required by law to provide.\n\nSecond, the police can do whatever they want, essentially. The saying goes, \"you may beat the rap, but you won't beat the ride.\"\n\nRecord all interactions with police and make sure your device is set to automatically back up any photos or videos to a cloud service. Having a record of the stop already eliminates a whole bunch of potential FOIA tomfoolery. \n\nIf you're asked to exit your vehicle, ask the police officer to articulate the probable cause or reasonable suspicion for why you are being asked to exit your vehicle. Advise you do not consent to a search of your person or property. If you exit your vehicle, lock it and keep your keys on your person. \n\nMost important of all, calmly but firmly speak up for your rights, but peacefully comply with all police orders. If you feel your rights were violated, you can follow up after the fact. It's been said elsewhere in here, if the police want to search you or your vehicle, they'll figure out a way to do it. The best you can do for yourself is document the fact that you advocated for your constitutional rights throughout the interaction.", "Massive… throbbing wiener", "Dude, our world history education before university is fucking abysmal.", "Yep. The unfortunate thing is that they will be able to hold you, and this has been shown to be legal so long as the officer isn't knowingly breaking the law in detaining you for too long. It'll get tossed out in court fairly easily, but it just just a lot of bullshit to deal with and very little consequence for the offending officers.", "So like 80% of states, this is such a widespread BS problem", "when I needed low-cost health clinic badly, I finally called a women's clinic and said Wtf? How come there are no men's clinics? And they referred me to a female doctor so could I get my blood pressure under 180.\n\nAnd I still don't have health insurance and I'm doing labor job for major corporation where the head guy is worth more than $5B. I've got $25. in the bank.", "In one way of viewing it, a corporation is nothing but an independent pile of money that takes in, pays out and pays taxes on itself. It’s legally distinct from its owners, debtors and employees. So it’s already established that a pile of money has personhood, so long as it has the right paperwork.", "Cops are a state-backed gang. That's why they're so anti-gang.", "How is this yikes?", "Ok", "Not necessarily true.\n\nCops don’t enjoy standing around just as anyone else. They might decide to do whatever it takes to search your car, or they might just give up\n\nIt’s never a good idea to say “yea” to that request though. They’re incredibly disrespectful of your belongings typically.", "Civil Forfeiture laws are cancer.", "Now you know for next time kid killer", "Yikes?\n\nThis is solid advice. Never consent to searches and never tell them more than you legally have to and get a lawyer.", "Lol you dumbass..", "Cause no one uses their 2nd.", "there is nothing illegal about sticking a fork into a wall outlet, it does not stop it from being stupid. Don't travel with any sum of cash larger than 100 dollars. We no longer live in the 20th century. I haven't carried cash on me since 2006.", "What if it isn't your car? Do they have the same rules as vampires? Do they have to ask the right person before they can enter your premises?", "Do most people normally just have lawyers they can call?", "ALL\n\nCOPS\n\nARE\n\nBASTARDS", "I trust that the big banks are going to protect my money, but also find ways to make some of it their money. Credit union is the way to go, they're about helping the members, not using them.", "That's not what the yikes was for. Check the dudes comment history. He's a damaged individual. I hope he gets the help he needs.", "He/she only cares that we have the best military that can decimate unstable civilizations", "Not all veterans are combat veterans. Some of us played support roles for humanitarian operations.", "I wish someone would do a study on what percentage of cops are actually corrupt. We hear a lot of stories about corrupt cops, my father personally dealt with one. But the media only talks about corrupt cops and not the good ones, which gives off the impression that all cops are corrupt, and I think the one thing that everyone intelligent agrees on, is that the media only has one goal. To keep people watching so they can make money. They will lie straight to your face if it will keep you watching.\n\n\nEdit: Grammar", "Man..i work in law enforcement and i would never let them search my car or answer any questions unrelated to the stop.\n\nThose guys are hounds and look for crumbs to find the loaf of bread even if there isnt anything. Their job gets boring unless you find shit then its exciting.\n\nIm not a cop im a dispatcher for them", "Download the ACLU app. It has a live streaming function. Even if you don't point it at him during it it's good to have the audio. Inform him at the beginning \"hello officer, just so you're aware I'm recording our interaction for my own pace of mind.\" Even just that should hopefully keep them in check. If you're worried they'll react to that don't tell them. Just keep it recording in your pocket in case anything goes down.", "That's how TDS works", "White dudes always mad", "John Oliver does a great piece on this. Definitely worth a watch if you have a few min.", "> Literally everyone is suspicious in that scenario.\n\nThat's the point.", "You act as if seizing money isn't the point. There is no will from law enforcement agencies to ensure their dogs are making good stops because they want bad stops. They want to size that money because the agency gets to keep it.\n\nWe need to do away with civil asset forfeiture.", "Why so white?", "Greasy bastards", "People need to be using the First and Second Amendment to protect against these egregious violations of the other Amendments because that’s the whole fucking point of the first two Amendments", "best to know that rule. What's the best way to tell them you will be on your way so you don't wait for the dog", "After this video, I went down a YouTube rabbit hole watching other videos by the Institute for Justice. They are doing incredible work and I will be donating to their organization. All the people I saw in the videos were normal citizens who found themselves getting screwed by government and police overreach. It's truly scary.", "Because some people don't trust banks, which is understandable.", "That made me so fuckin furious. This guy gave his life to fight for these jerkoffs freedom and they take his sense of security.", "Yup. \n\nTotally.", "Only the dumb ones. Keep your money in a fucking bank!", "I'm more afraid of the police than I am criminals at this point. I'm undoubtedly more likely to be victimized by a cop than anyone else, and I have no resource with the cops, at least I can fight a criminal.", "So pretty much the argument used by the anti-2nd Amendment folks?", "Don't talk to the police!\n\n\"Am I being detained?\"\n\n\"Am I free to leave?\"", "“I am not discussing my business with you officer. Am I being detained or am I free to go?”", "From poking my head into libertarian spaces they seem generally insufferable", "It can't be stopped and the vet (sic) knows it. Government gonna do whatever they want.", "And that’s why all these dipshits saying to just refuse a search, ask if you’re being detained, and then leave are going to get someone hurt or killed. \n \nTechnically right and technically legal don’t matter when you’re on the side of the road, and the cops pulled you over. If they want to search your car, they will. If they want probable cause, they’ll manufacture it. \n \nBeing difficult is just a quick way to end up arrested, or dead. Being dead right doesn’t do you any good because you’re dead.", "now I want to check\n\nsaw some old bills once. That's about it", "Irrelevant to the point of this video", "When I was younger and would have cops asking to search my car more, I would always do the slow look to the back of my car, sigh and say \"I'd rather no one searched my car.\" \n\nLike, nothing against a cop searching my car, I just don't want anyone going through my stuff. Thankfully, even when I was sleeping in my stationwagon and it was a wreck, and we had smoked in it recently, or another time when I was driving with expired tags, and another when I had an expired license, the cops always kind of became more laid back and agreed.", "\"just tell them to fuck off!\" - guy commenting on a video of armed cops carrying out literal highway robbery", "While I do agree with you, I feel like this policy should be put in place by law makers or really any agency higher than law enforcement. Someone has to keep these pigs in check", "Never consent to a police search", "The difference between a revolution and a civil war is that after a civil war, there is still only one country left.", "The fact you think in such monolithic terms, pigeonholing not only me but the entire cultural morass that are the \"left\" and the \"right\" is indicative of your mental capabilities. If you think there are no conservatives with authoritarian leanings, you are willfully ignorant, in denial, or deluded. Yes, the left has many authoritarians. But authoritarianism is not an issue unique to any one tribe, and is especially common among those who occupy the highest seats of power--every tyrant seeks a throne. For example, can you tell me how many republicans voted against the Patriot Act?", "You should reread your own comment and ask yourself if you’re talking about feminists the same way you say they’re talking about MRA groups.", "Not giving consent wouldn’t have let him keep his money. He’d likely have ended up arrested AND had his money confiscated.", "This is the way.", "This is why we need to legalize recreational drugs and not tax them to oblivion. Nobody benefits except the very few who make money off the prizon system. Addicts dont benefit. Non addicts dont benefits. Even if it wasnt unethical to tell someone else how to live their life it would still be a good idea to legalize because prohibition doesnt work. There is no discernable reason to prohibit drug use.", "I hope these cops choke on their donuts and are okay but get a good scare", "Yeah, that's what I thought, hence my question of where they were referring to.", "Saying “I support cops” after videos like this exist sounds ridiculous. What is there to support? They need reform and to get fucked.", "Dude could have been a 40 year vet of pizza delivery (a job more dangerous than police work) and its still disgusting.\n\nMaybe you just don't care.", "I'd take that over the risk of the office planting drugs in my car. I don't know if them being the law is on purpose or not so I'd rather not risk that they'll do even more when they get access to my car.", "The day we stop rewarding departments is the day 98% of it stops.\n\n\nI think it's a 60/40 ratio. The department gets a cut & the federal government gets a cut.", "Did he get his money back?", "Same, and I was told this too. They said if the dog smelled anything, they’d arrest me. They clearly thought I had a large amount of weed, when I literally had 1 bowl left and that was it. I hired an attorney who ended up getting it all dismissed.", "They're probably good at spotting drug dealers", "Son of a bitch!", "It can be, it will just require a lot of people to unite and be uncomfortable for a long time during the fight.", "People do care.. it’s just they’re fighting to keep what rights they have right now. Can’t fight for the others while trying to keep the ones you have left still.", "Yeah, I feel like this is easily covered by the fourth amendment. I mean, this is exactly why the fourth amendment exists. It might help bringing it up in this situation, but who am I kidding, if they have the goal of searching your car that badly, it probably won't help.\n\nThe main thing would be to not agree to a search. These guys seemed like they were on the precipice of letting him go, so not being allowed to search his car might have saved him. Then again, they might have just had the dog come out and signal...", "The day we stop rewarding departments is the day 98% of it stops.\n\n\nI think it's a 60/40 ratio. The department gets a cut & the federal government gets a cut.", "You can get less time for snitching but your lawyer has to make the deal. If you make the deal without your lawyer present its nothing.", "Yeah then they shoot you to death. So you’re right, but you’re also dead. Good job!", "I heard there’s more civil forfeiture than theft", ">But of COURSE it would alert to drugs on a pile of $87,000 cash. Statistically at least some of that money will have come into contact with drugs, or the hands of somebody who handled drugs, at some point.\n\nIt's even more ridiculous than you're saying, one of the items they train the dogs on is cash.\n\nInsane.", "Whats the deal w game wardens?", "The cash is going to smell like its handler and human in general, of course it'll run for it. Its the only thing that stands out in that field.", "Scum.", "But the incentives for cops aren't to train the dogs correctly, they're to train the dog to signal.", "Ehh I worked harder to earn a college degree but they ain’t gonna make that known.", "America land of the free. What an absolute fuckin shithole of a place.", "Unfortunately, explaining your rights and refusing to answer questions might piss off the cop. If a cop wants to take you to jail, they'll do it. Even if you get cleared of all charges later on, it still sucks to go to jail. \n\nIf we lived in a perfect world where cops were good people, you could state your rights, shut up, and refuse to cooperate. But in the real world, it's often safer to play along. Totally depends on the situation, of course.", "It’s harder to make money off of those other amendments - I think it’s that simple.", "Civil forfeiture is an important source of revenue for the “justice” system. The money collected “legally” is used for police and judge retirement funds and running the court system. It’s basically legalized highway robbery. No other explanation for it. Even if they give the money back, it’s after they have kept a portion of it for their fines and dues. So they confiscate your lawful money for no reason, make you pay to get it back, and blame you for it.", "Hey man, it's okay if you want to use my pointed question as a means of derailing a conversation that was making you uncomfortable. I'll never force you to talk about something you don't want to.", "But was there something war about the civil? 🤔🤔🤔", "Writing a check comes with its own risks and is avoided for several reasons. There might be another way to transfer money from one person's account to another, but >90% of people will have never done it and have no idea how. Primarily your account is charged by businesses using a debit card, not used to transfer funds between people.", "This has been going way to long. It’s absolute fucking insanity. Glad there’s a law firm on it now", "Lol capitalism is not related to having a capitol. Look up the definition of capitalism. Kind of how plantations dont grow plantains", "His first mistake was admitting that there were large amounts of cash. He trusted the system like a sucker.", "Maybe we should lock up all the cops since they are the real criminals", "Never talk to cops. Never consent to anything. They are not your friends.", "The DEA should be abolished.", "Jesus Christ, guys. If the police ask to search your car say no.", "Green Pants dont need probable cause to stop individuals and they don't need a warrant to search them or their vehicle IF they suspect they have fish or wildlife in their possession illegally. \n\nThing is, if they find any other illegal items while doing that search, they can charge for that as well. And they don't need to have found any of the items of their original search. They can just say you had an endangered fish stuffed in your pants and search you.\n\nEdit: They also don't need a warrant to come on your property and search structures they believe to have illicit items in them related to their duty, ie, game and fish. But they can also not find those things and charge for the things they do find.", "And they wonder why everyone hates the fucking cops", "That makes sense, and I'll be sure to look more into the War of the Quadruple Alliance. I haven't heard about it before.", "Yeah, they mention it in conversations like these, and then they put it away when they're done with it and campaign for other issues.", "You can refuse search. But they'll bring the dog in and, whether or not you have drugs/cash, the dog will be goaded into alerting so that they have probable cause to search.", "Care to say anything more substantial. Cause you can’t.", "We need Dexter in real life to deal with this fckers", "Right? Like, sure if you’re wealthy and white and have cameras rolling and are ok with risking your life to prove a point, then by all means refuse to comply and keep rambling about your rights. You can use all your resources to sue the cops after they make an illegal arrest or detainment, assuming they don’t just shoot you. \n \nBut enforcing your rights requires lawyers and money and time, and most people don’t have that. If cops have a fuck about our rights, we wouldn’t even be having this conversation.", "I think you missed the part where cops don't give a fuck and will drag you out of your vehicle for not complying. If he doesn't trust banks, he definitely wouldn't trust a lawyer that he would have to pay most of his assets to.", "I did look it up, you ignored the first part and got angry and came at me, I simply provided you with the truth (the first part tells you that forfeiture laws have been around since the 70s, but of course you linked a shit right wing libertarian anti-joe biden site. The reason I said link a .gov or a less biased site is because bias heavily influences them. I'm not asking for you to actually link a less biased source I was calling you out on your sources.\n\nYou were wrong, own up to it.", "I have always wondered this too. It always seems like the crazy ones are screaming about calling their lawyer and I'm standing their like, shit, am I suppose to have one of those too?", "DEY TOOK AR HAUS", "I'm not actually sure how much money I have. But I do know how many pounds of money I have.", "A cop can legally enter your home, steal your phone, your computer, your TV, and not charge you with a damn thing. And thanks to the NDAA, they can also arrest you and leave you in a holding cell for the remainder of your life without ever actually charging you with anything.\n\nLand of the free is a myth.", "In that situation I agree, I don't think that should be a crime, but most sexual crimes are much worse than that.", "Fair enough, I knew that part of my original comment was a generalization, I should have edited it a bit. \n\nThis video is less about the cop and more about the law. The fact that the officer is doing this completely legally suggests that there is an issue with the law, the cop is simply applying this law to make his department money and in the process screwing over a completely innocent, law-abiding citizen who's only crime is carrying his life savings in cash with meticulous receipts and record-keeping to account for all of his money (yet that didn't matter to them, they still took it). \n\n> They should of course be punished to the fullest extent of the law, as is expected.\n\nNow the cop in the video was just doing his job, but there are cops that actually break the law, do insane things, and get away with it. While I agree that they should be punished to the full extent of the law, arguably punished even more strictly given that they are close-to being the arbiters of said law, we see that this isn't really always true. A lot of very bad cops get away with doing terrible things and this culture of \"thin blue line\" is just pure cancer in my opinion. \n\nI do get what you mean though, I'm sure there are good cops who try to make a difference and try not to screw over innocent people as well. I shouldn't be using the worst examples of cop events to judge all cops.", "The best line is \"I don't want to answer any questions.\" If they ask why, respond with \"I don't want to answer any questions.\" If they really push you, you can say \"I would like to invoke my 5th Amendment right to remain silent.\" At that point, you can remain absolutely silent and you will be protected by the Constitution. \n\nIt's not a guarantee that the officer won't go on a power trip and arrest you or attempt to search your vehicle, but you've exercised your rights.", "Cop apologists. Defend your boys!", "You'll be fine. Not all police are assholes. The awful ones are the ones that get the most attention IMO", "It's not just the USA where prisoners lose voting rights, unfortunately. \n\nThe UK and many other European countries are the same. \nThough for Scotland at least, those sentenced for less than 12 months are able to vote in Scottish and local elections.", "i do feel like i have to throw in... these are rare cases. though they clearly do happen and we need a fundamental shift with our corrupt policing practices/govt control, but if you visit you probably wont actually experience this garbage.", "> In many states, felons are only restricted from voting while they're in prison.\n\nThat is literally the problem.", "What?", "I do wonder how much of this is about just being a group of people who disagree with the mainstream about something important and feel strongly enough about it to go seek out likeminded individuals. This will result in those communities heavily leaning towards the people narcissistic enough to think they know how to fix the world. Vegans, for instance, have a similar reputation -- because the most visible people in any group that's taking issue with society are going to be the people who are in it for attention.\n\nIsn't necessarily an indictment of the worldview itself though, or representative of the larger group of people who would endorse it.", "It is weird a mentality. \"We hate the cops so much, we better just do what they say.\"", "Maine and Vermont are the exceptions. Good on those two.", "isn’t there a law that you aren’t supposed to have a cirtain amount of money with you?", "Apparently that's 'criminal forfeiture.' Where you've been convicted of a crime, and they just have to prove that whatever's being seized was somehow involved (like actually used for it, or part of the profits from it).\n\n&#x200B;\n\nPresumably some police department with an obliging judicial system started allowing it the \"easy way\" and seeing how overpaid and undertrained cops already were it spread like wildfire among states that wanted to make that wrong just a little wronger.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nIf you tried to get elected on a platform of going against civil forfeiture, you'd get a lot of yays, but then the police unions would be denounce you and suddenly stats would start rolling out about how many have been arrested (not convicted) since you popped up or some bull.", "Hang on “he was stopped for following to closely and driving under the speed limit” well which fucking one is it? He clearly couldn’t speed up", "Lol", "Have you ever had an honest conversation with a gun owner?", "Yes, but \"left/right\" here is shorthand for the American left and right, which are actually right/much more right.\n\nThere is no meaningful left here. And both parties are to some extent proponents of oligarchy and the police --- or at least, of the status quo.\n\nSo yes, it is a left/right thing, but not in the sense that most Americans would think about it. Most Americans have never experienced the left.", "Highway robbery!", "I mean heck, it's probably TRAINED to alert on the scent of cash. That's literally something they can do to find hidden stashes of it.", "r/awfuleverything", "Civil forfeiture needs to be abolished.", "God... cops are such narcs lol", "I wonder if you had the ability to remotely unlock your car (phone app, OnStar). Exit your car to talk and lock the keys in it.", "I enjoy your pseudo-intellectual comment trying to appear smarter than you actually are, really I do. That said, one side has substantially less patience for criticism or self reflection than the other. One side behives like a hive mind, far more than the other. (I.e. see Reddit. Believe me, I know I’ll get thumbed down into oblivion by the tribe). Anyway, the patriot act is terrible, there’s no denying that. However, it was also pushed out during the worst attack the country suffered in its history, so it’s a straw man point, non-partisan in reaction to that attack by one of the worst Presidents and VPs in history. The same people who now openly shill for the left btw. Meanwhile in regards to conservative authoritarians, maybe there’s some? I don’t know of any. Compare and well, look around you and the bank monitoring bills, the red flag laws against vets, the anti-crypto legislation, and the examples stated above are all passing with a democrat led, everything. Enjoy your upvotes.", "Nah fuck that. Having a step father who was a cop and a cousin who is a lawyer. You have rights. Nothing good comes from rolling over. I have another personal story but too long to type. Had I known my rights i should have used them. Cops are not your friend nor do they want truth. They want an arrest and conviction. Give them nothing. Be polite but don't roll over on your constitutional or legal rights. Ever watched that old video on why not to talk to cops?", "The whole point (in a lot of people's mind) of 1 and 2 is to protect these rights. 1 and 2 don't mean a whole lot if you don't have these.", "Land of the free /s", "Glad to see these IJ videos getting more popular. This nonsense needs to be stopped.", "Disgusting. Should be illegal to \"steal\" someone's money. I know it's called Forfeiture but, in reality, it is stealing.,", "yes it is", "Wow the mental gymnastics you had to go through to come up with that. In no way did he think he was better than a normal citizen.", "Usually the cops themselves don't train them. They are bought from certified trainers who source the dog and raise it for a specific purpose. Training it to false alert would be the equivalent of building a faulty consumer product (think dangerous kids car seat). If ever proven, you will never have a reputable product ever again. \n\n\nMost argue the dogs are taught to alert on command. It doesn't really work that way. They can teach them to do something slightly different on a hand signal or whatever but it's not actually alerting on its own. That's on the handler, not the dog or it's training. but at the end of the day a crooked ass cop will just say the dog alerted and be the piece of shit they are and do whatever they want.", "Yet nobody will do a damn thing about it, next election nobody will bat an eye.", "Literal highway robbery. But but but, it's the 'law'.", "I don't like how much Americans glorify veterans but I do think it adds a bit of dark humor that this guy signed up to fight for the State and the State took all his money", "Me too, I was 19 traveling to Florida from California.\n\nPulled us over, seperate and questioned us seperately, kept wanting to know how much cash we had (0) then kept saying, not legal cash, how much illegal cash do you have?\n\nDudes left us with the backseat on the side of the road 2 hours later and a speeding ticket because they were frustrated.", "Obligatory \"Don't talk to the police\" educational video, first from the point of view of a lawyer, and second half from the policeman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE", "Still don’t think you’re grasping the whole percentage thing, but it was a good try. Luckily though, the article you linked proves my point. Right in the section under problem one, it states that black Americans are 2.4 times more likely to be killed by police than their white counterparts. There are far more white people in this country than black people, so it only makes sense that there are more white people, by shear number, killed by police.", "\"Sir, that money is earmarked for donation to a political action committee and is protected under my first amendment rights.\" (because there are limits to political contributions to candidates, but not to PACs).\n\nI think it would hold up. Now everyone please send me enough cash to try it.", "It's in the capitalist class interests for the average american to not know the difference between leftists and centrist liberals.", "My cousin got hit with a DUI and underage in nearly the same exact situation. At that point, you’re basically encouraging people to ACTUALLY drive drunk because the consequences are the same if you drive or if you don’t, so might as well try to make it home.", "All the more reason why I am holding bitcoin.", "LEGALLY, no they cannot. PRACTICALLY, they do anyway because the majority of people don't know their rights.", "The constitution is nothing more then something most Americans wipe their ass with", "But that’s literally how the system works. \n\nThere isn’t a judge on every police call, nor should there be. The role of the cops is (theoretically) to investigate potential crimes and to press charges. That’s it, the courts do the rest. The court system is literally the “due process” you are guaranteed.\n\nWe can and must reform the police. Qualified immunity should be outlawed, internal affairs should always be civilians, civil forfeiture is in sore need of reform, non-violent “nuisance” laws need to be decriminalized (like weed arrests, minor property damage, etc), we need to stop selling the police army surplus equipment, the government should provide people with free legal representation—there’s just a ton we can do. \n\nBut we shouldn’t ever want to shift our right to due process from the court room to the side of the road. Due process is important, even if a legal fight is inconvenient.", "I mean the dude was dumb, count one not having his money in the bank like a normal person. count two moving a large sum of money by car. count three not knowing when to shut up.", "The issue isn't feminism that's just the product of patriarchal capitalist society that doesn't give a fuck about anyone with less than tens of millions in an offshore account. The fact there are women's clinics owes to the fact of women being also screwed over and carving out a small space for themselves. Feminists are fighting for everyone's equality but come on you gotta put in some work to! Women have it worse than men, so it's a bit silly to put the onus of all the work on feminists/women.", "The English government's reasoning for the crippling taxes was to repay the cost of defense of the colonies in the north American theatre of war. It's entirely fair to say just the French and Indian war in this context, as the taxes weren't set up with consideration for the other theatres nor were the taxes applied to other English settlements.", "Hope the dude learned all about crypto currency and told both banks and LE to go fuck themselves.", "/if they're black ftfy", "Yes, and that video is horse shit. As you already said, if cops want probable cause, they’ll find it. Your rights don’t matter if you’re dead, or when you’re in jail and can’t afford a lawyer. \n \nThat’s the point: you have rights, but you can’t enforce them without money and lawyers and, ya know, being alive.", "Cop: “Hey sarge, I have a guy here with $100k in cash.” \n\nSarge: “Hey DEA agent I have a guy here with $90k in cash”\n\nDEA agent: “hey buddy in evidence locker, I have $75k to turn in from a forfeiture.” \n\nDEA after being sued: “sure we’ll return your $50,000”", "Never ever agree to a search", "What is even the point of the Fourth Amendment any more? They have ways to seize literally anything for no reason, police can [conduct a SWAT raid without a warrant](https://www.csoonline.com/article/2228116/swat-team-swarms-bar--demands-to-see-alcohol-permit.html) and destroy your house with almost total impunity. Can we just acknowledge openly we're living in a police state?", "One bad cop justifies all cops are bad. Did I just read that right?", "he should have sued for 10% of the money as well since he could have invested it.", "Now you do what they told ya", "I'd only say that if you know you fucked up on the traffic law side and have nothing to hide otherwise, then cooperating may help. As a kid I was going like 30 over and got pulled over at 2am while going out with my friends for mountain dew and white castle. He tossed my license on his car hood and checked all our pockets. Asked if he could check the car - I readily agreed. I knew I was fucked and was in damage control. Turning up with nothing and proving we were honest to goodness kids going for late night food and mountain dew from a sleepover led him to giving me a stern warning and telling me to turn the fuck around and get home to my mother.\n\nI readily admit that my friends and I are all white though...\n\nAnd in hindsight my friend was a big stoner that I didn't learn til a bit later - I'm just super lucky he didn't have anything on him that night.", "Their jobs are to protect capitalist interests. This happens because of that.", "Pulled over for out of state tags? Wtf", "Yeah, more often in pleas, but yeah. Trust me, I'm not saying we don't need reform.", "What if you include the theft and fraud perpetrated by the bosses of the police, aka the politicians lol. That's why they call it Cops and Robbers, not Cops vs. Robbers.", "Sounds like a liberal plot do disarm are courageous heroes of blue!", "[Thanks, Joe Biden!](https://fee.org/articles/how-a-young-joe-biden-became-the-architect-of-the-governments-asset-forfeiture-program/)", "This is why I hold bitcoin. I can stake crypto and earn intrest ranging from 4.5-12% Where my bank will earn intreset with my money and give me .004% back.", "Everyday cop shit \n\nThey’re literally criminal gangs which just take control of any drugs or money they seize", "Bro this is literally Biden's law.\n\nhttps://fee.org/articles/how-a-young-joe-biden-became-the-architect-of-the-governments-asset-forfeiture-program/", "Yep. “I smell an odor”", "I realize I'm \"moving the field posts\" but there's very little context to this video.", "Name single time this ever happened and the cop and/or department were held accountable.", "That wasn't a hypothetical", "Yeah asset forfeiture needs to be stopped.", "No, corrupt system that forces you to prove it's yours", "I think your perception is skewed due to the only publicity police get being from “videos like this”", "This is a terrible abuse of power and should be stopped!", "You can also get pulled over for doing the limit in hazardous conditions (snow, heavy rain).", "Damn this shit sounds interesting.", "Hahaha, holy shit. Touching kids and making it legal to rob people. What a piece of shit president. America is running a losing streak on those fuckers.", "If they're 2.4x more likely to be killed by police per racially capita, you must also consider that they are 3x more likely to be violent criminals per racial capita (even though whites are more likely to be violent criminals per US population), so violent black criminals are actually less likely to be killed by police than violent white criminals.", "Oh fuck no.", "Go to YouTube and look up \"Audit the Audit fired\" and you'll see a few examples.", ">Calls me a pseudo intellectual while copy-pasting analysis of my alleged political beliefs\n\nLmao, all of this because you're upset I said there are authoritarians on the right? Somebody is sensitive, yeesh.\n\nReally, idk why the hell you're going off here. Then again, I don't care, and none of your arguments have anything to do with the original comment you replied to. This whole thing is you barking up the wrong tree, then chasing cars. There's nothing for you to win, because you chose the wrong place to make your fight.", "That man was so cool and calm. Guarantee I would have went to jail there, probably ruined my life.", "Sued and asked for an interview by media. They don't want this case to blow up, I believe, so they relented. Imagine if they didn't give back the money. The outrage would be massive.", "Sometimes it just doesn't matter. I have said no plenty of times. The times they decided to bring the dog out after that I can tell you every single one got a hit on my vehicle somehow yet they never find a thing because I have nothing.\n\nLast time it happened I was leaving somewhere and got pulled over. They stated I left a known drug area and asked if they could search which I told them no. They brought over the dog and the cop tapped on my gas tank, the dog jumped up to that spot, they said \"that's a hit\" and then they searched the car lol. They broke my cup holder too, it was a weird one that pulls out and folds over and they literally ripped it out of the space it was mounted in to look underneath it. Bunch of cunts. Was a small town so I wasn't gonna get anywhere complaining about it.", "Reddit: \"THE GOVERNMENT IS SHADY, DONT TRUST THEM... oh except Biden \"", "I think you still going to have to be more specific, depending on the pov of the one calling it a civil war.", "No, I mean it is something that exists in many places around the world. Like laws against murder are a worldwide thing even if it isn't a single law shared between countries or even codified and enforced in the same way. Just a thing that exists all over.", "He fought for our freedoms. /s", "You have a point, any heavily group-thinking space will probably seem insufferable to someone who isn't really 'part' of that space.\n\nDoesn't really change my opinion much, though.", "I couldn't watch past the 3 minute mark, this kind of stuff is literally starting to make me sick. I've been in this man's shoes before (not with that much cash, but enough) and the way I was treated is a difficult thing to think back on..", "Also the cop said something at one point referring to himself, another cop, and the victim all being vets. If you're an infantry vet from the last two decades, about the only civilian job you can easily transition your skill set to is law enforcement. \n\nSo, it could also be read as it's even more fucked up that the state's lapdogs are willing to cannibalize their own brothers in arms.", "chick is hot", "And someone to come get their ass and bring them to the impound where their car is.", "They're basically highwaymen, too. They're armed bandits who essentially threaten you out of your possessions and maybe even life. It's just a little more subtle than it used to be.", "This isn’t new. Our police use civil seizures every day. How is this an issue now? They been doing it for decades.", "The usual excuse is “oh well there must have been drugs in there recently! The dogs definitely alerted, how crazy is that?”", "Holy fuck", "And as a vet, it’s attention that should be given to anyone in the same situation, and a situation no one should ever be in. It’s a clear violation of the 5th and 14th amendments and likely the 9th too. \n\nGood job violating your oath of office LEOs.", "DUI has become a huge clusterfuck because of MADD. Its a fear driven organization that has been constantly pushing for the cop being judge and jury as well at the road side stop. Considering how often traffic stops are used to target minorities, seems convenient.\n\nDrunk Driving is a horrendous thing, but MADD is a huge shitshow.", "Legality is determined long after the incident. They'll keep you if they want, you'll file a complaint or lawsuit, and they'll get a \"talking to\" and if it had enough publicity, you'll get a settlement to make you go away. That's it, if your lucky. Legality plays no part in what happens during the stop, sadly.", "Yeah there was an abused men's shelter in Toronto that got shut down to so called feminists demanding it be defunded. The dude who ran it tried to keep it going but he was just one guy and couldn't get funding because fuck abused men right?", "people generally eat what they're fed.", "Is it obvious to anyone else that this guy is evading child support? Not exactly a saint move tbh", "Land of the free right? This country is on a slow ride to getting fucked. And redcap cucks are cheering all the way.", "How is this not literal highway robbery?", "What about the second Mexican Revolution? I think the difference is when the rebels win, it’s a revolution.", "This is literally a video about cops not giving a fuck about what's supposed to happen. None of these \"you should haves\" matter here.", "I have 100 comments about how I feel towards this \"officers\". All of which would get me banned from reddit. So you fill in the gaps. Sickening", "Most people agree, because most people are innocent, want to be nice, and naively think that if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about.\n\nThat's human nature.", "“What bulls**”\n-literally everyone listening", "Careful. Don’t become one of those people getting pulled out the window by their hair screaming “AM I BEING DETAINED?!?”", "Classic reddit, \"technically correct is the best kind of correct\". \n\nLike the whole problem with the cops is they're unhinged man-children that have a nasty habit of solving any situation that starts not going their way by dumping half a magazine into whoever pissed them off (and then getting away with it). Y'all can have fun arguing with people like that, I'll just keep driving my nondescript car in an inconspicuous manner and try to avoid the problem altogether, and I say that as enough of a country white boy that racists sometimes mistake me as a fellow racist.", "That number would only matter if all the killings were of violent criminals. According the article you linked, black criminals are less likely to be armed than their white counterparts. Either way, police killings of almost anyone are, in my opinion, not justified. As a white American, I’ve never felt unsafe around police, and actually usually feel safer. But I am well aware that that isn’t the case for many minorities", "Most people? No. But some of us keep a criminal defense attorney on retainer for…reasons. \n\nAnd then there’s the rich folks who just have one because he’s probably a friend of the family.", "The police actually stole more private property in the US than thieves have the last couple of years. The way it’s set up even if you’re innocent they get to keep it, and they basically just use it however they want or spend the money however they want", "Yes and no. It’s one thing to be difficult and another to at least document via the dash/body cam that you did not consent to the search. Your lawyer can use that in court to at least reverse what the cops did to you. Plenty of people have denied consent to search and were at least released and had the record cleared. It’s still at the least a major inconvenience and at worst a possible death by cop, but it still makes a difference if the situation makes it to court.", "I didn't get mad or come at you. I was blunt with you. Congress has been pushing it with RICO, but Biden was the champion behind pushing it further in the name of narcotics. Which, if you read this article, was the reason this man's money was taken. He also pushed for mandatory minimums, different sentences for crack and cocaine, and more. \n\nLook it up more. If I'm wrong I'll own it. But, I'm not. In fact, if you Google it, there is plenty of info on it. And the site that I posted is rated by two sites as being \"moderately conservative\". Moderately. It's not like I linked an article by a heavy conservative site. \n\nBiden has always been tough on drugs and it doesn't help that his son can't handle his shit.", "Three words: Bitcoin self custody. It cancels crap like this!", "Stacking charges is so common to get a plea deal. And it's in a way necessary because there is no way in hell the court system could handle putting everyone through a proper trial.\n\nApparently it's never occured to them that maybe there should just be less arrests and less causes for arrest.\n\nI'm always entertained when on reddit people go on about the barbaric practices of the japanese police and courts to extract confessions(yeah, it is actually kind of bad) when those are still relatively rare isolated cases compared to the US where nearly 1% of the population is in prison and couldn't get a trial date due to the massive risks of stacked charges.", "Is there even enough public defenders? For most of those backlogged trials to proceed at once.", "You remember that time George \"Fentanyl\" Floyd had a lethal amount of fentanyl in his system while fighting law enforcement at the time of his death?\n\nEveryone outside the violent, rioting, arsonist, bubble of leftist reddit remembers.", "It was his first and only.\n\nPG Co. MD is known* for its corrupt cops and system. \n\n\nI have a friend who is Muslim (by conversion, but has dark hair), who has never had a drop of alcohol or any other drug, in his life, due to poor experience with his father. He volunteers as DD for strangers, for free, just to keep them from driving, especially on holidays. \n\nHe's been pulled over more than 50 times in the last 8 yrs, twice arrested, both times in PG Co., for \"looking suspicious\" and having someone in the backseat reeking of alcohol. \n\nBoth times he won in court. But that didn't exactly help his \"record\", which he had to pay a lawyer for the cases and expungement fees. \n\nHe's literally paying out his own ass to keep drunks off the road and still gets shafted by racist asshole police officers and courts. \n\nLet that sink in.", "This is a pretty bad case, but there are nearly endless videos of cops attacking and abducting law abiding citizens and even more cops covering up their crimes.", "Do you think we'd be better off without a police force?", "What the fuck did I just read? Is this mainstream rightwing now? Are y’all all this fucking deluded?", "This is my lawyer. He doesn't know it yet but he's mine.", "While i dont like him this is not the bill that granted civil forfeiture. That one is specified for racketeering and RICO cases with individuals or individuals associated with those from those cases. Dont let your bias make you blame shit on the wrong people.", "Certainly it can be, but there's been a few cases that were dropped because of it. Generally our courts in Ontario are pretty good at getting things through.", "We only got Trump because the conservatives hated Hillary. What a fucked up system. I hate politics.", "Yes, quite a dystopia we are living in where substantive due process is used in upper courts to expand human rights while actual due process is being infringed upon more and more in an effort to “keep the streets safe”. Sad state of affairs really.", "Thats not even true anymore though, and especially so for drug money. Less than 1% of crypto transactions are estimated to be related to criminal activity these days, but drug cartels accumulate so much cash they often struggle to launder it. \nIt's typical American law, criminalize something due to lobbying from someone that can make money for any reason you can come up with, and any consequences are someone elses problem.", "Lmao someone disagreeing with you is a damaged individual? Seriously there's nothing wrong with them from what I see", "Damn, I don’t carry more than $100 cash on me Mac and maybe that is 5 times a year.", "And the cops know how to spot their targets.", "I hope you told him he was a stupid piece of shit and cursed his lineage. Fuck that human garbage", "Pigs, turn them into bacon", "Yes, quite a dystopia we are living in where substantive due process is used in upper courts to expand human rights while actual due process is being infringed upon more and more in an effort to “keep the streets safe”. Sad state of affairs really.", "The constitution hasn't been in effect for nearly a century.", "The goal is not to get out of the ticket, the goal is to prevent further invasive search, seizure, or incrimination.", "\"I saw a video of a black guy robbing a store recently. I can't believe people still support them\"\n\nSee how dumb your logic is?", "Abysmal compared to what exactly? Looking around at what other countries teach it doesn't appear too many countries are teaching much more than what was taught to me 20 years ago.", "Is this real or does a lot of illegal cash move through there amd this was just someone thinking they created a clever way of getting away with it. ???", "100% of police who do this are criminals. No exceptions. Civil Asset Forfeiture is disgusting and should literally never be allowed if you're not charging someone with a crime, period.", "Given that money in the US has the right to lobby politicians, and money by itself is considered illegal. \n\nShould it not be then that politicians who accept money be charged with receiving the proceeds from crime?", "He doesn't trust banks? Well guess he won't trust cops either lol\n\nNo joke though. This happened to my friend about 10 years ago maybe less. He drove cross country with money he been saving since he was a kid, 30k I think. Can't remember what state he was in but the cops robbed him. And not the nice, here is a paper go to court bs.... they took his shit, he had no way to prove it wasnt \"illegal\" money because he didn't think he needed anything like that, they handed no paper, he got no summons to court, he called the station and whoever else and it turned into \"there was no money seized\". Their word against his. Fucking assholes", "Lorum ipsum", "> Your lawyer can use that in court to at least reverse what the cops did to you. \n \nThat requires you having the means of obtaining competent counsel. Your rights are only enforceable with a lawyer.", "What?", "Checkmate Libz", ">\"I don't answer questions\" \"I do not consent to searches or seizures\" \n> \n>Then you shut up.\n\nafter 10 years in reddit...i have learnt that is the correct response in any situation...even if you are a whiter than white surbuban mom", "It was actually around 1% of the average colonial income, the biggest issue was being force to pay without the ability to raise colonial issue to parliament due to lack of representation.", ">lobby for bills", "The correct answer is \"no\"", "Checkmate Libz", "Now I don't endorse cryptocurrencies, but it's obvious millions of people have an interest in keeping their own money somewhere that doesn't involve banks. Ain't nothing strange about distrusting institutions and wanting to keep cash. Obvious downside of not letting the banks rob you slowly through fees and bullshit is being robbed straight up, by illegal criminals and state sanctioned ones. \n\nThese cops are such pieces of shit to just throw that bag of money seconds away from the car and then walking toward that direction like it wasn't a guarantee that the dog would find the bigass plastic bag. What an insulting little show they put on like we're so fucking stupid to buy that as justification.", "During a traffic stop? That’s absolutely not true.", "Every American citizen should be automatically registered to vote on the day they are born, and that registration should be automatically validated on their 18th birthday. No American citizen should ever lose their right to vote for ANY reason.", "Is the type that redditors ignore in order to push their agenda", "Then they find it and seize it because you lied about it.", ">and its owner who does", "You absolutely can though... They can't force you to stay. And as much fun as it is for you to pretend otherwise, they aren't going to immediately shoot you in the back if you say \"Are you detaining me? Because if not, I'm going to leave.\"", "How so?\n\nEdit: I’m legit curious on your take, before someone flames me.", "Too bad the veteran votes for people that allow cops to do this", "Let's go Brandon", "Unless you actually get in an accident on the way home", "Source or additional reading material? Cheers.", "Yes, you can legally refuse the search from the officer. If the officer persists without consent they are breaking the law. Fourth amendment rights.\n\nEdit:\n\nAlso, dogs are not trained to alert to all illegal substances. Roughly 60% of dog alerts are inaccurate and do not hold up as probable cause in a court of law. See Rodriguez v. United States.", "It depends on the cop. At least if you clam up, you won't incriminate yourself on tape.", "It's [SHUT THE FUCK UP FRIDAY!](https://youtu.be/RkN4duV4ia0)", "It's so funny how quick it goes from \"I'm a vet, he's a vet, you're a vet...\" (6:02 - 11:29 AM) you know, as if he's saying 'we're all just good, upstanding citizens abiding the law and we're just doing the right thing here' to...\n\n* calling up your DEA contact before you have even a shred of anything you could call probable cause or any evidence of criminal activity whatsoever (7:21 - 11:57 AM), \n* rolling a K9 unit that you're hoping is going to alert on cash that he's getting walked within 10 feet of (without even checking the suspect or the vehicle, I might add) (8:22 - 12:08 PM)\n* \"we're going to go ahead and seize all of the money that you have withdrawal receipts for\" (10:00 - 12:17 PM) and\n* I'm not even going to dignify you with a response as you're pouring your heart out telling me that I'm leaving you with a few dollars on you hundreds of miles from home (10:46 - 12:23 PM).\n\n45 minutes is all that separates cops from \"we're all good buddies here\" to \"we're confiscating your life savings for a kick back.\"", "Apply it to the national debt or something. Anything besides letting it go directly to the men seizing it or the town they work in.", "What do you think about the BLM protests? Off-topic, I know, but I'm genuinely curious.", "Most people waive their right to a speedy trial.", "Even a public defender can see an unlawful search and seizure.", "He searched her truck because she said she took a 100 mile detour to go shopping and she had two cell phones. \n\nAlso before the initial stop she was going some 10mph over the speed limit.\n\nThat's all in the link you posted, which also says that the appellant isn't even contesting the facts of the case.", "Good ole boys club with NHP and the agencies in the area. Small town and they do a shit job.", "Where can I learn all these rules in depth and what the cops usually threaten and how to reply to each scenario ? (How crazy that I even feel a need to study this in a free country)", "None of your business, thats why", "I can certainly but it would be easier if you were interested in a specific state. The laws are all generally the same, but it becomes niche when you deal with Florida vs a state like Ohio. Florida has a lot more fishing, crabbing, and shellfishing laws. Some states treat them more like inspectors rather than cops.\n\nhttps://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sfgate.com/news/amp/Game-wardens-don-t-need-a-warrant-to-stop-cars-3383756.php\n\nhttps://app.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=77.15.094\n\nhttp://www.okgamewarden.com/PastIssues/2005-Issue2/Search_and_Seizure.html\n\nHere are 3 from different states that go over a number of the things I stated.", "The Seven Years War is quite interesting, and largely considered the first true \"World War.\"\n\nIt resulted in British dominance over India, the majority of North America, and some of the Caribbean, and would be the precursor to the formation of the United States, Canada, & India as nations. \n\nIt was the direct precursor of the Austrian empire, and led to the rise of Prussia and would eventually be the precursor to a united Germany.\n\nIt set the stage for numerous modernization projects by European powers - most notably France and Russia.\n\nIt's also one of the many times Poland got fucked over by supposed allies.\n\n\nThe war of the Quadruple alliance is less interesting imo, and part of a very long and slow decline of Spain as a world power. It is also part of the long history of the Hapsburgs fucking up Europe. I'm not certain, but I believe it directly set up the rivalry between Napoleon's ancestors and the Hapsburgs as well, but he wouldn't be around for another sixty or so years.", "It's almost as if a certain political party made the conversation all about one of the amendments by constantly portraying the other party as trying to violate it while they stacked courts and passed laws gutting the others.", "\"Corrupt cops\" doesn't quite paint the full picture. This kind of flagrant theft is the result of top-to-bottom systemic corruption devised and executed—under the full protection of the law—to destroy the lives of hard-working poor people who don't have the resources to fight back. I hope I live to see the reckoning.", "American dream.", "Great video.", "Capitalism is indeed related to the existence and the accumulation of capital. I am not talking about capitols like the buildings.", "Am I free to go? \n\nYes\n\ndrives away\n\npsyche, mothafucka lights your monkey ass up", "Like [this one](https://menandfamilies.org/familyshelter/) that’s a men/family abuse shelter in Toronto?", "Has civil asset forfeiture gone to the supreme Court yet? How is this not something Americans are freaking out about? I'm not American but this seems absolutely wild to me. Can't believe the 2nd amendment crazies don't see this and freak the fuck out about this loss of rights.", "I don't know enough about them to have an informed opinion. Racism is already bad, and done by cops makes it many times worse. I understand the emotions but the looting wasn't right.", "your L", "He got the money back after filing lawsuit.", "I'm not arresting you, I'm arresting your body's cells.", "Even the urban legends you hear that if you ever go to federal prison, you're advised to bring documentation with you to prison indicating what your crimes were so that you can prove that you're not a child molester because if you are, or can't/don't prove that you aren't a child molester, you're liable to be raped, beaten to within an inch of your life, and/or murdered. As if sexual or physical torture and murder is or should be part of the legal system and the rehabilitation of criminals.", "The biggest lesson is cops are criminals", "Worst part is? Had he just lied about having it they never would have searched him. They never would have suspected anything.\n\n\nAlways lie.", "Should’ve trusted a bank.", "Because banks take my money and lend it out, levering up 30x+ handing out mortgages to anyone with a pulse. Then the entire world economy takes a shit (read: stock market), they get the bailouts, and we're left holding the bag.\n\nI worked for a small bank for 5 years, I don't blame anyone for wanting cold hard cash lol. It shouldn't even be a question, because this is a discussion about cops being corrupt fucks, which happens to everyone regardless of their monetary practices!", "None of your goddamn business thats why", "Your own numbers show it’s “one or two” relative to the scale. .1% of cops if you count each forfeiture as a different cop", "r/amibeingdetained", "Definitely not blaming the victim here, but there are somethings he could've done that would've greatly decreased his chances of being robbed right? \n \nI do not consent to searches. I do not wish to disclose my belongings. Am I being detained or am I free to go? I think the biggest mistake he made was allowing a conversation to happen beyond \"why am I stopped and am I free to go?\" \n \nOn the other hand, I would love this to get blown way the hell up so that civil forfeiture is no longer allowed.", "This video is so fucked I can't even finish it. This is the kind of thing that needs to be taught in school - along with that \"don't talk to the police\" lecture.\n\nPersonally they'd have to fucking kill me, I would not let those pigs walk away with my money or property.", "None of your goddamn business that why", "Yeah, something about the registration coming back stolen or expired? This happened in West Virginia. Cop was in the center lane and I was doing exactly the speed limit in the right lane, he paced me for a minute or so and I could already tell he was gonna pull me over. Car registration was paid up until 2022, this happened in 2020, so neither of those issues were the case. It was literally under 5 minutes of interaction before he let me go, so I was hardly bothered. \n\nI got pulled over for the same thing in Tennessee a couple years ago, in a different car but still Idaho state plates. The cop told me it showed up as stolen and I said that’s impossible, as it was legally registered under my name. I don’t know if it was because they were looking up out of state plates in their states system? No idea how that works. Both scenarios were smooth and the cops were very polite, so I don’t think they had ulterior motives.", "Sure.\n\nhttps://www.huffpost.com/entry/texas-police-shakedown-lawsuit_n_1758134\n\nhttps://walberg.house.gov/media/in-the-news/forbes-federal-forfeiture-program-whats-it-funding\n\nhttps://www.prisonlegalnews.org/news/2017/jul/28/policing-profit-law-enforcement-agencies-abuse-civil-asset-forfeiture/", "Thank you.", "I just mean, people are inherently flawed, they make mistakes. There is a tiny chance a mistake is made with your account, and you better believe the bank has better lawyers than you.\n\nI use banks, I'm not scared of this chance enough to not use all of the advantages of modern banking. But there is an argument to be made against it, especially for an older guy from the before times.", "We have a lot of should dos in this country and it gets even worse when you consider that many of the changes require both state and federal legislation to enact. Regrettably there is one party which always stands in the way of making the humane choice.", "It creates a false perspective lol. The USA isn't the whole world, and expecting the entire rest of the globe to ignore reality and adopt the twisted definitions of US politics is a joke.\n\nInstead of acknowledging problems it seems like Americans such as yourself are too busy trying to hide from and suppress the reality that essentially every politician is right-wing and the majority are far-right.\n\nIf people in the US can't use the terminology properly and just regurgitate nonsense fed to them via the TV that's no one else's problem lol. Educate yourself instead of trying to make everyone as dumb as y'all.", "I addressed this already mate", "wait how do your politcs make sense then? Not being an ass just curious.", "Get arrested and let me know how well the public defender with a dozen other cases fares against the zealous prosecutor with state resources backing them. Let me know how you pay your bills after you get fired from your shitty job for being in jail during your shift. \n \nI don’t think you realize how little your rights actually matter without a means to enforce them for yourself.", "\"Alleged political beliefs\"\n\nYour own quote - Conservative? Conservative of their bullshit, maybe, but the way we've seen them reinterpret the constitution leads me to think they're not actually conservative, just as they're not actually progressive. They're opportunistic authoritarians.\n\nThanks for proving my point and demonstrating how much you do care. I can almost hear you furiously typing. Don't worry, I care as well, because when people spew divisive anti-conservative boogeymen bullshit in a thread where everyone agreed what happened in the video was wrong, non-partisan, you jump right in to bash one side and somehow turn it toxic. That's it. It's good for people to see not everyone agrees with terrible takes like yours.", "> Sure, parties are bad, but \n\n\"Both sides are the same\" is just partisan flummery. It avoids the factual parts of this discussion which is it is the party which controls the senate which introduces the bills. So your first statement\n\n> The 'Comprehensive Forfeiture Act' was introduced by Senator Joe Biden in 1983.\n\nIs misleading because\n\n* The senate bill you first linked to as \"introduced by Biden\" died in committee and was just a variation of earlier bills. \n\n* The second senate bill you linked to was a forwarding of an earlier bill that started in the house - that's the version that made it into law. \n\n* The person who introduces it is just someone from the senate in charge. \n\n* The bill which did become law was introduced by Strom Thurmond (R) and passed 94 - 6 (with 21 cosponsors nearly equally split between R and D)\n\nYour 1:15 min video link states. \"Joe Biden Praising War on Drug's Civil Asset Forfeiture: \"We can take everything!\"\n\nbut his statement wasn't \"praising\" but arguing that Congress does not need to do more to be tough on crime as Bush was claiming. \nHe was accurately stating that the tools congress passed 94-6 don't require giving MORE power to the executive branch because the tools already given are already incredibly powerful. Here's the 15 minute CSPAN video with that context: https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4787373/user-clip-joe-biden-tough-crime . \n\nI agree that the laws that were passed have been severely abused to target poor americans, fracture communities, and break up families. Or in the words of the earlier architects of these laws\n\n> [We knew we couldn’t make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin. And then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities,” Ehrlichman said. “We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did.”](https://www.cnn.com/2016/03/23/politics/john-ehrlichman-richard-nixon-drug-war-blacks-hippie/index.html)\n\nTLDR; You can make that case without claiming (falsely) that Biden is some \"master architect\" (e.g. \"pioneered Civil Asset Forfeiture\") because he happened to be the one who introduced a bill that died in the senate when there is an earlier bill that did pass, was introduced by Strom, and passed 94-6.\n\nEdit: grammar, clarity", "Ah yes, the first one in the country, ever, that opened just this year.", "He looks Hispanic that’s why", "No.", "Nah, I don't think I will. Keep talking about Biden dude it's charming.", "Can’t pay my kids medical bills but at least we got enough nukes to destroy the world 20 times over!", "Source? Clicking down the whole front page of Google links, they all say the same thing, one of those was a comment from r/askhistorians. Now I know that doesn't 100% mean it's historically accurate, but I'm not seeing anything real to back up your claim.", "You can legally refuse a search. You can not refuse the dog being walked around your car to detect narcotic odor. That said, if the use of the dog adds an “unreasonable” amount of time to the traffic stop, it’s unlawful and anything they find can be thrown out in court. But if you have the right to refuse a K-9 unit being called, everyone would refuse.", "Not trying to be rude, as a white woman, but what race are you?", "You're a seriously damaged individual. I sincerely hope you find the help you need.", "Police reform. The new mob", "The chances of that are extremely low. 99% of cops won’t do that, we just only hear about the ones who do so the chances seem more skewed than they really are.", "Oh no prob. White male.", "Right to speedy is not even close to dead. Most people waive the right to speedy and it MOST certainly works in your favor", "Is it accurate to call this highway robbery.", "Driving too fast? Jail Slow? Jail \n\nYou undercook fish? Believe it or not, jail. \n\nYou overcook chicken? Also jail. Undercook, overcook.", "Their job is to create ‘probable cause’ & profile to do it.\nIt’s essentially betting. \n\nProblem is they do it so long they get good at it, & get really mad when they lose a ‘bet…’\n\nA small effect of Municipalities using their police forces to turn a profit, making their police forces & courts predatory.", "There is great example of this on the show drugs inc. It was a meth episode and they were in I think Tennessee or Kentucky. The cops would bitch\nAbout meth lab raids because the only thing of value tweakers have is the meth.", "I don't believe a word of this. 4 years is exceptionally long time. No DUI takes 4 years. Also speedy is only allowed to be waived by the defense. 4 years on a dui is 100% a violation of speedy and no fucking judge would ever allow a dui to linger for that long... This sounds like horseshit\n\nHell the longest trial ever was the McPherson case at 7 years. That was WAY more complex than a dui", "You like books? I like books:\n\nhttps://us.macmillan.com/books/9780374172145", "Second thread in five minutes of cops being deplorable. The last clip was a guy in a wheelchair being shot 9 times in the back and then the cop only reported 8…", "Honestly, yeah. It can be really handy to have a lawyer to call if needed.\n\nYou don't need to keep them on retainer, but just make a few calls, find who takes emergency calls if needed, and keep a few of their business cards in case you ever have an issue.\n\nIn the event of a legal issue it's much easier to have one call to make from a jail cell than be dialing through numbers in the phone book.", "You have 10 times less than the clown in the video and you think thats a lot?", "Because calling the DEA means his department gets 70 grand.", "If your premise that it was done without consideration for other theatres is true, then that's a fair point. I do not think that was the case, but that is an assumption (and I think the idea has to be premised on 'absence of evidence for consideration of broader context' unless there is a 'smoking gun' kind of source--even then, I'm not sure what would be sufficient evidence to demonstrate lack of consideration of something).\n\nSpecific reasons I doubt that was true in this case, (besides e.g. generalizable ideas about how modern states and militaries are administered): the Caribbean colonies were included in the taxes; that there was an early assumption about the wealth of the nawabs and the potential short-term gains in India that proved mistaken (and the war on the subcontinent being primarily against France & allies); the specificity of settler colonialism (the 'freeborn Englishman' stuff, the perceived suitability of settler colonies for garrison of standing army); that British hegemony was fundamentally premised on naval supremacy (and again some mistaken assumptions or lies about potential profit from plundering french merchant vessels--france lost most of its overseas trade but that did not substantially transfer wealth to British interests)\n\nThis is not my field, however, so you may know better. I may just be bitter that in my discipline, the USA is taken to be the 'default case' for almost any phenomenon, and overreacting to that!", "I'd imagine most of your neighborhood addicts haven't gotten their Monero wallets set up yet.", "This law came from democrats. Biden actually, in the 80's.", "Well he is a military guy", "Riding a semi’s ass to \n\n> Also, driving under the speed limit. Which I thought was odd…. \n\nNo shit he’s under the speed limit, because the semi is. That’s why he’s riding it’s ass. That’s why he then passed said semi. \n\nWhat a piece of absolute shit person that cop is. If those are the bullshit reasons for you to perform a stop then fuck you. No wonder you’d have absolutely no qualms about robbing a man of his life savings. Garbage pseudohuman.", "How did I say that was a lot? The guy said he thought I had $2K BTC, I take a portion of my coin and put it into precious metals and expanding as well. Its just a way of increasing your net work, diversifying and planning for the future. You can do it as well.\n\nWith hyperinflation precious metals are a very good buy, just look at the spot price for gold and silver now, a lot of people are moving in. I just invest the same amount each month and build it up slowly.", "Yes, and I agreed with him that it shouldn't be this way. Doesn't mean I'm gonna fuck around though.", "Absolutely. Cops are there to arrest people and to help the ADA prosecute them. Any information that they seek to gather is with those goals in mind. So, even if you know you're innocent, the police only want to speak with you in the hopes that you'll say something that gives them probable cause to make an arrest or otherwise helps the ADA build a case against you. \n\nA lot of people feel like if they don't say anything the cops will get mad at them, or will think they \"look\" guilty. And sure, maybe a cop will get pissed off or suspicious. But their feelings won't land you in prison. That's the whole point of the right to remain silent--juries are told, at length, that they can't hold your silence against you. But any statements you make to cops absolutely can and will be twisted by the ADA at trial to make you look as guilty as possible. For example, an innocent misstatement can be made to look like a lie. If you were nervous, the ADA will suggest it was because you felt guilty. If you were calm, they'll suggest you felt no remorse. Whatever you said or did, the ADA will try their hardest to construe as evidence of guilt. That's literally their job.\n\nAnother thing to keep in mind is that the cops wouldn't necessarily be in a position to help you even if they wanted to. Cops can exercise some discretion about who they choose to arrest, but it's constrained by a host of factors, e.g. their marching orders, their supervisor, the DA's office, stats, etc. And importantly, once you're arrested, it's up to the DA's office to choose whether to press charges, not the cops. \n\nThe only person who's in a position to help you is your lawyer. If, e.g., you're innocent but have info about what happened, your lawyer will negotiate with the ADA to try to get you immunity in exchange for what you know. If that's not an option, your lawyer will point out how little evidence they have, and might convince them to drop it, or (if it goes this far) convince a jury.\n\nRandom anecdote: I had a juvenile client who was with his friend in a car when they were shot at. His friend got hit and died. The client went to the police station for an interview about what happened. He didn't think to ask for a lawyer since they were just investigating his friend's murder. Unbeknownst to him, the cops found his friend's gun in the car. During the interview, he makes some inculpatory statements about touching the gun. As soon as the interview end, the cops arrest him on firearm charges. \n\nThat's what happens when you talk to the cops.", "This is the most context I've ever seen in one of these videos.", "Can I barrow your lawyer for a moment?", "I'm military and distrust cops. Hell, the military police are garbage, so why would normal cops not be garbage? Anyone trusting cops is just naive", "Biden introduced the Comprehensive Forfeiture bill in 1983.", "No, because we arrest too many fucking people.", "[Earl Silverman](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_Silverman), for one.", "This is truly broken logic. One can still be better with out whitewashing Bush's crimes. No one is elavating trump", "Desktop version of /u/E_Snap's link: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_Silverman>\n\n --- \n\n ^([)[^(opt out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiMobileLinkBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^(]) ^(Beep Boop. Downvote to delete)", "Remember when a stupid right winger blew up a federal building in Oklahoma in the 90’s because “goverbernment bad.” How many people died? Several hundred? Including children? Bahah “violent left”, you guys are a joke.", "Yeah I'll be friendly and talk to them about the alleged violation. I'll even answer truthfully if they ask if I have drugs. But I'll refuse to answer anything potentially incriminating and will never let them search my car or my house for that matter.", "Haha yeah you only need to ask it once. If the answer is yes the answer won't change just because you keep asking it.", "Is there any safe place to have money in America? Seems like the police will kick down your door and kill you if you have money.", "Showing up with a machine gun to a peaceful gathering is going to make things much more likely to turn violent. This is the the same thing a lot of people shit on Rittenhouse for.", "> behind on every metric\n\nDon't you mean behind on every imperial?", "And then waste further time out of your day, especially if you have somewhere to be? I strongly dislike the police, don’t get me wrong. But if you know there’s nothing incriminating in your vehicle and want to end the process as soon as possible, what incentive do you have by telling them “no” to consenting to a search, if it only draws out the process for much longer.", "I don't know how recent it is, but I saw some stats that say it's less than 5% of inmates who reported being sexually assaulted \n/raped. \n\nAlso, there you go being disingenuous again, twisting my words like I'm arguing FOR it.\n\nI think maybe you've watched one too many prison movie. \n\nI think the prison system is an absolute abomination, for what it's worth.", "Only what the doctor prescribes. And whatever I find on the floor of people's cars", "I am to understand they’ve been left out of the conversation.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/WzlrSWSyJpw\n\nThis press conference they called about how they don’t get listened to enough — just think about that concept — is truly, truly, just off the wall bananas. Stop treating us like animals and thugs from a cop is as backwards as a black person with five holes in their back informing an officer he has reason to suspect tens of thousands of dollars from your bank account will be buying me a really nice espresso machine for the boys this year", "States of emergency are state government proclamations and DO NOT supersede the US constitution (which is the supreme law of the land). There is no constitutional amendment or article that gives Congress (or the President) the authority to declare martial law or a state of emergency (in any meaningful way in a discussion about rights being violated).\n\nUnder no circumstance, even an emergency, can our rights be lawfully violated, until a constitutional amendment is passed to give Congress or the President that power.\n\nMartial law is, by and only by SCOTUS decisions, legal. However, \"martial law\" doesn't default mean our rights can be violated.", "Yeah, well, the point is deleting all robbery would objectively help Americans less than making CAF illegal.", "Other countries have cop cops?", "So what you are saying is everyone arrested needs to request a full trial. Grind it to a halt!\n\nBut the US system is fucking terrible, and Canada has it no better with using the RCMP - a paramilitary police force to forcibly deal with Indigenous populations - to currently brutalize them. Or the cases of Indigenous women going missing at the hands of police or the police not investigating them.\n\nhttps://montreal.ctvnews.ca/indigenous-women-say-they-re-still-afraid-of-the-s%C3%BBret%C3%A9-du-qu%C3%A9bec-1.4642629\n\nThen there's also the coerced/forced sterilization of Indigenous and Minority women in Canadian hospitals, you know if a doctor thinks they're having too many kids.\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_sterilization_in_Canada#:~:text=Compulsory%20sterilization%20in%20Canada%20has,before%20seeing%20their%20newborn%20babies.\n\nI mean at this rate Canada is quite the colonial eugenics capital of the Western Democracies...", "Nobody knows there is nothing incriminating in thier car, they only think there is nothing incriminating. You don't know all the laws, cops know the nuanced BS that is technically illegal. \n\nIf I knocked on your door and said \"can I look through your house?\" The answer would be no. Why is this different? How would they delay you further by saying No?", "Yeah... Or they'll ask similar questions multiple times, trying to trip you up and get a different answer so they can use \"He kept changing his story\" as some kind of basis for reasonable suspicion.", "> not the judges fault the system is ran the way it is\n\nI mean ... it kind of is. Especially if they're the ones 'brushing past' your constitutional rights.", "After high school I used to have dream of doing a coast-to-coast road trip with friends over the US and visiting all sorts of small town landmarks on the way, like largest frying pan or largest ball of yarn or highest water tower etc. Past decade I've read/watched/listened so much about these weird inequality law cases that start out as random traffic stops and end up with you losing your assets, being jailed for no reason or even worse shot... Let's just say, I've long buried that dream and to be honest, by now I sincerely see no appeal in visiting the US ever. \n\nP.S. That same John Oliver Civil Forfeiture sketch was the first time that really made me genuinely want to cross off US from my travel bucket list altogether - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kEpZWGgJks", "And the ones who don't?\n\nWell, I guess those ones (if they're lucky) get to face a pissed-off judge who's already mad at them for messing up his schedule.", "Which is why the 2nd is more important than all of them", "Thank you for the strawman, it was great.", "Yes and?", "Why have I heard of people getting out of crazy charges due to their case not being processed fast enough? I can't remember what I was watching, but they were commenting on how this guy should have been put away for life a long time ago but was free due to the courts not providing a speedy trial.", "> Cops have to have reasonable reasons to search your vehicle, then the DA or whoever has to prove that it within reasons.\n\nAnd they can find a ton of 'reasons'.\n\nHe was being compliant because he had nothing to hide and wasn't expecting them to jerk him over. He was screwed from the moment they stopped him and the only thing that kept him out of jail was being civil. They could have arrested him on suspicion if he didn't comply. rights be damned.\n\n> Most decent lawyer will not only gets you out, but will also ensure that you might get your asset back.\n\nYeah and those lawyer fees would eat up what he got back. The system is rigged against poor people because lawyers are expensive.\n\nYou're right, never give up too much information. They will twist it against you.", "I think it's supposed to be saying something about how even veterans, which a lot of cops are, aren't special when it comes to getting jacked like this.", "I'm stoked that a new one is opening up. That's news to me so thanks for letting me know about it! But no I'm talking about the one that was shut down a few years ago.", "Thats fine, what does that have to do with the police taking this man's assets?", "This is false, again. The dog being walked around your vehicle at a traffic stop is considered a search, because it is a traffic stop that has been extended in order to conduct said search; not indicative of a traditional traffic stop. Therefore, if you refuse the search, it is illegal for them to perform a dog sniff. Everyone can refuse. People don’t, because they don’t have the means to sue police departments or don’t want to spend a night in jail and then sue police departments for damages.\n\nIf you just googled Rodriguez v. US, you’d know this", "When you snitch you tend to rat yourself out for other crimes. In federal court you only get a downward departure not free pass. So your original crime could have been a max of two years. You start ratting people out and by doing so admitting you were involved in said crimes. Now you’re looking at ten years but they give you time off for snitching which mean you only get eight. Still screwed yourself for six years by being a snitch. Oh and cops and prosecutors cannot negotiate deals in federal court. If they claim they can it’s negotiated in bad faith and they’re breaking the law.", "Totally I agree with you. Just using their bullshit claims against civil asset forfeiture to show how one or the other is bullshit (it's both).", "Seriously.... I'll reply to you. I said nothing rude or mean to they guy and he wants to say STFU first. I don't put up with that online or real life disagreeing with someone is fine but out the bat a rude comment, no thanks. I just move on, report, and don't think about it. People will say their tired nonsense of \"fagile\", \"ooh so scared of the mods\", or in ur case \"what a baby\". It's really just silly to watch all the mean comments when I did nothing wrong and just moved on. Like if you don't put a mean fight your just a \"child\" in your view? As if there are some weird rules of engagement with a random, (rude mind you) stranger on the internet. The LOL edit because what else should I do these ridiculous comments. Enjoyed the wall of text? Hope so. Try being nice. Goodbye.", "Still a surprising stat to me. If you’d asked me to guess, I’d have said asset forfeiture would be <0.1% of burglaries. And I’ve long said that asset forfeiture is a cancer that more often than not victimizes the innocent and corrupts whole police departments.\n\nAsset forfeiture without a criminal guilty verdict of the person it was seized from, needs to be abolished, full stop.", "[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4nQ\\_mFJV4I](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4nQ_mFJV4I)\n\nThe ACLU also makes state-specific wallet-sized \"bust cards\" that reminds you of your rights and what to do in a police encounter. I'd google for the one for your state. It's state-specific because for instance in some states if the police ask for ID you have to provide it, while in others you don't.", "Sitting playing your axie or other crypto pay to earn game on your phone can make you more than 40-hr/week minimum wage job. In developing countries you can make a month's wages in a day, it has changed the job market of the Philippines", "Wow, this is such an insightful and amazing comment. So much depth. I mean where do I start?\n\nFirstly, how can I possibly disagree with \"lol\". I mean true real classic there. \n\nThe first L, that's a touchdown, can't argue with that, this topic is so funny you have to laugh. \n\nO, getting kind of weak there, I mean on the internet Out is really not a powerful word, at least for most situations. \n\nL, Ok, give you credit there, people on the internet are famous for being loud. \n\nThank you for your amazing and articulate points. /u/zaitsev4 everyone /endofthread.", "The 4th is on thin ice and is often violated by things like civil forfeiture and stop and frisk laws", "You are mistaken. The crime bill introduced by Biden (and Clinton) was designed to provide additional funding to the police, but not generally through civil asset forfeiture. Even so, Republicans voted against it only because it was \"too soft\". Had they had it their way the law would have been worse, Biden fought to keep it less extreme than it would have otherwise been (thank you Biden). The Justice Department started the Asset Forfeiture Fund in 1986 under Reagan (though ultimately the concept goes all the way back to pirates and maritime law) However, as I said, every administration and every state, regardless of political leaning, has embraced it and given it more teeth while doing nothing to keep it fair. Political finger pointing serves no purpose except to inflame.", "It wasn't the first, there was another one that had its funding cut, what little there was in the first place due to outcry that it was taking funding from women's shelters. Like fuck dude there should be enough shelters for everyone.", "Cops are turds no matter what. I think that's pretty clear.", "Not quite, that’s where lots of us get into further trouble. You just have to end that sentence in “with all due respect”", "The cops didn't flagrantly violate the law, civil asset forfeiture was legal in that jurisdiction at the time, and the drug dog hitting on the bag of money gave them probable cause to seize the money. This was covered in the video", "You mean, literally anyone on the ballot? Or are you perpetuating the lie that leftist politicians aren’t fascist?", "No they wouldn't? No one benefits from the us defaulting even if you wanna be super doomer about and think that cooperations control the government then the us will especially never default. ( ok maybe some geopolitical rival might benefit eventually but everyone on earth would be fucked for the first few years)", "What case was that?", "It is unfortunate you basically have to be part lawyer to navigate a police interaction. It's also not fair they can lie to you but you can't lie to them", "I doubt this. If you are taking a FST you already failed. Those have been beyond proven to be false and not admissible in court. They are a tool to arrest you much like PC.", "you replied to the wrong comment", "I was skimming and didn't see the full context and you are right. It was completely unwarranted from me and them both. I apologize for for the rudeness and childishness. My hypocrisy just left a bad taste in my mouth, and even though I disagree with the point you did handle it well. Have good day!", "Even if the receipt matches exactly what he's carrying, who's to say he didn't spend 10k, other than him. If they can take it, they can sure as hell lie about how much was there.", "to the reddit soyjack hivemind? that's a W", "So do you just remember the number off the top of your head? I only ask cause I never been in trouble and don’t see myself doing anything illegal but I wanna be prepare if I find myself in a situation like what the video shows.", "do you have an anxiety disorder perchance?", "What other rationalization do you have for why he claimed his veteran status made this altercation more offensive than if he wasn't a vet? There's no gymnastics required.", "> I worked harder\n\nAre you sure? I'm both a vet and a have a B.S.", "Its objective", "I don't have any skin in this debate but I was curious about the speech so I looked it up and the line they referred to is definitely in there. Page 7: \n\nhttps://books.google.com/books/about/Washington_s_Farewell_Address_to_the_Peo.html?id=OmvjAAAAMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=kp_read_button&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&gboemv=1", "Pretty sure that false “gotcha” is a tactic. It’s happened to me numerous times. Maybe to throw you off or something, idk? I distinctly remember being like, “wait? I didn’t say that?” During more than one encounter.", "\"I didn't kill anyone, I just pulled the trigger.\"\n\n\"I didn't shoot them, I just made the bullets.\"\n\n\"I didn't take part in the violence, I just fed the people doing violence at a convenient location so that they could do violence more easily.\"\n\nKnow who said this shit? The Nazis.", "Absolutely fucking right.", "> If I knocked on your door and said \"can I look through your house?\" The answer would be no. Why is this different?\n\nBecause the common civilian doesn’t have the authority to fuck up my day/week by throwing me in jail at their leisure?", "your L again", "let's get you home grandpa you're confused again", "I'm definitely terrified enough of Trump that I'll be voting against him no matter what. He's a horrifying human being.", "After me", "you keep stacking Ls how is this possible", "Officer: “Sit tight for minute, alright?”\n\nofficer returns to cruiser\n\n10 minutes later…\n\nfellow k9 officer arrives on scene\n\nThis has been commented 100x but there’s no way to prove what your waiting for. What are you just supposed to drive off?", "We'll see.", "I got the impression that when you said \"asset seizure was only a problem after 2021\" you were figuring the guy above you meant that Biden played a key role in civil forfeiture as president, rather than as a drug war proponent senator in the 80s.", "https://le.utah.gov/xcode/Title24/C24_1800010118000101.pdf\n\nIf anyone is interested…", "They’ll never say “wait for the dog” they can just go sit in their car for whatever else and maybe a k9 officer magically arrives shortly after…", "Yes, and I'm telling you you are wrong? Taking a bundle of money to court is not a thing in civil law systems.", "And eat paste for horses", "CIVIL asset forfeiture is decided in civil court which is marketably different than criminal court. \n\nThe standards of proof are higher in a criminal case than in a civil one, since the state does not wish to risk punishing an innocent person. \n\nIn criminal court the prosecution must prove the guilt of a criminal “beyond reasonable doubt”; but the plaintiff in a civil action is required to prove his case “on the balance of probabilities”. Thus, in a criminal case a crime cannot be proven if the person or persons judging it doubt the guilt of the suspect and have a reason (not just a feeling or intuition) for this doubt. But in a civil case, the court will weigh all the evidence and decide what is most probable. \n\nIf a civil court finds that it is more probable that the money was involved in a crime then it will rule that the money was justly confiscated. If you only have your word that the money isn’t being used in a crime, the fact that police are considered expert witnesses it weighs more in their favor. \n\nLots of civil asset forfeiture is for amounts under 5,000$, anything under that isn’t worth hiring a lawyer to get back since it will cost more in attorney’s fees than the money you only have a chance of getting back (from people who already have it and have already decided preliminarily that the money is guilty).\n\nThere have been cases (three in my city alone) where someone went to bail a loved one out of jail with cash and the police will bring out a drug dog who will then alert on the cash. The police then state that the cash is drug money and seize it. People get their money back only if they go through all administration hoops within a time frame put forth by the very people you have to prove your money is clean to. \n\nThey take your money, hold it, make a criminal assumption and then get to make all the rules in the rare situation that you CAN fight to get your money back. So, arbitrarily, they get to decide that your money is criminal and then if you want it back they get to make the rules and the time period. Any costs you incur from fighting are yours alone. Sometimes the judge is the sheriff who may have actually physically taken the money.", "Probably shouldn’t trust a random strangers opinion, including mine.", "How do cops get away with \"bait cars\" then?", "As you said previously, there is nothing in your car. If he can lock you up for nothing during an illegal search, he can lock you up for nothing for an allowed search. Much easier to have recourse with an illegal search.", "Pretty sure the video itself stated it’s in the hundreds of millions, but yeah", "Exactly", "No they didn't, not to defend bazis, but uh...go retake World History because you're talking out your ass.", "This is touted repeatedly in the comments of every example of power tripping police encounters, and while I agree completely, you have almost no power during a police encounter. They have methods to get what they want regardless of your consent or input.", "Which candidate do you think could've won the general besides Biden based on the results we saw?\n\nDo you have a top three preferred things he can do without congress?\n\nBased on the history of the last 100 years, the house and often the senate flip to the opposite party that holds the presidency. It's the nature of complacency. That being said, the gerrymandered districts from republicans..enabled by a conservative SCOTUS that chose not to act.. coupled with a gutted civil rights act..enabled by a conservative SCOTUS.. couple with the citizens united ruling from a conservative SCOTUS.. will only perpetually make things worse.", "I have been trying to find the article for ages now but it said that, democratically, the state citizens of Wisconsin have less actual representation in office than places like Uzbekistan and worse even than Russia. \n\nThe GOP control everything in Wisconsin using thing like the Tavern League which is made up of the states number 1 business: bars. There is a bar within legit walking distance in any place in Wisconsin. There’s more bars than water and we have a lot of ducking water. Those guys fight to keep drunk driving legislation weak and fight against cannabis because it could possibly take some business away from any bars. \n\nWisconsin has so little representation that we may as well be Russia.", "you say red and blue as if neolib dem governments aren't 98% as fascist as neocon.", "That's a little different, and entrapment is often misunderstood.\n\nA cop putting out some fancy car as bait to be stolen isn't making someone steal the car. The cop creating a situation where you can't pass someone and then giving you a ticket for not passing them is forcing you into a no-win scenario which, if not for the actions of the police, you would have never entered.", "“Our dog alerted on your car, we’re searching it.” “Our dog alerted on your cash, we’re taking it”\n\nThis scenario is not farfetched and could happen regardless of his consent or cooperation.", "Ahhh gotcha. Thanks for the explanation", "Could just have a K9 alert on the car. Automatic probable cause.", "Finally a sensible person. So many people think a few magic words (or lack there of) will save you. You have no power in a police encounter. If they want to do something, they have way to do it legally regardless of your cooperation or consent.", "\\^ what \\_\\_10 years\\_\\_ of reddit soyfacing does to a mfer", "Well wtf do you want vigilante justice like that Nazi white supremacists kkk member Kyle Rittenhouse during that peaceful not riot protest in his home town?", "https://youtu.be/_kTA2qNOETc\n\nNo problem. Here’s one I found in about 5 seconds. If you feel like educating yourself further, go ahead and search for “illegal search” on YouTube, Google, Reddit, or wherever you like to watch videos\n\nThey question the driver, he provides license and registration, they request to search multiple times, he denies every time, he also denies to answer their random questions like “where do you work”, so then they just tell him to get out of the car because he’s “making suspicious movements” and search it anyway\n\nI highly doubt you’ve ever been pulled over by a cop who WANTS to fuck you over if you think shit like this doesn’t happen. Hell I’m a white suburban guy and I’ve seen enough shady cop behaviour to last a lifetime", "You should definitely not say \"I don't know how fast I was going\" because that's a core thing to driving a car.\n\n\"How fast were you going / do you know why I pulled you over?\"\n\n\"How fast was I going? / Why did you pull me over?\"", "Most articles like these mention race and/or occupation, don’t they?", "What leftist politicians? Bernie sanders? Ilhan Omar? If you think they are fascist then you have stretched the definition to mean literally anybody.", "Yeah for sure, I corrected that based on the conversation below. I forgot about the distracted driving law now which can mean anything really. \n\nI guess the lesson is, there is really no \"right\" answer. only semi ok answers.", "Many years.", "It’s been an issue for decades. Police steal more money than any other group except employers", "https://ij.org/press-release/new-report-finds-civil-forfeiture-rakes-in-billions-each-year-does-not-fight-crime-2/\n\nIt's 68.8 billion since 2000, it has slowed down in recent years but there's still well over a billion dollars worth of civil assets per year that's seized. This is the same people that made the video in the post", "The police were going to try and run the argument before it got thrown out that because I was in possession/control of the keys (even in my backpack, in the trunk of the car) I was technically “in control” of the vehicle… \n\n…Well you can straight away see the can of worms that opens - everyone sitting at a bar with their car keys in their pocket or even sitting at home having a drink with the car keys in the drawer and no intention of even going near their vehicle could technically be guilty by that logic - so thankfully common sense came through with the magistrate and it was thrown out for the bullshit it was and the police officer who initiated the charges was torn a new asshole as was the DPP prosecutor (kind of the Australian equivalent of the “DA” in the US legal system) for letting it even fly. Unfortunately there is no recourse for compensation to me for the trouble though in our legal system.", "I remember learning about this in the Michael Moore documentary Capitalism: A Love Story. What an eye opener that movie was, glad we were shown it in high school.", "It's a good video but we're talking about detaining people for K-9 searches buddy", "I never said he was the master architect and you manage to prove my point several times, so thanks.", "My bad. Averages to billions a year. I think I just saw the data for a single year.", "didn't he die tho", "I just see too many example of POS cops like this that will never realize the errors of their ways and never have to pay the price for the unnecessary pains they force on others.\n\nIt just makes me wish there was a hell for them to burn in.", "The Wikipedia page has a collection of some of the more unusual ones. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_rem_jurisdiction\n\nAs an attorney this is maybe the most interesting one I’ve ever read: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._One_Tyrannosaurus_Bataar_Skeleton", "I agree with the forfeiture, and the statistics back that up, but not the Gun one. Two of my family members have been shot, a friend was in the Las Vegas shooting, and two of my coworkers have had guns pulled on them at work (pizza delivery), only one of those coworkers got shot at though. I've fortunately only been threatened, but it's terrifying delivering to places, what happens if I go to the wrong house at night with some trigger happy fuck? My cousins when they were 10-12 were dicking around in the forest, and got held at gun point by the guy who owned the property they unintentionally trespassed on.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nAll of this was in California too (except one of the family members, and the Vegas shooting naturally).\n\n&#x200B;\n\nEdit: another coworker when I worked security had a gun pulled on him by his supervisor because he had a gun. Then apologized and said some BS about blacks and mexicans in LA not getting along. (don't live in LA, but the Mexican supervisor did).\n\n&#x200B;\n\nI'm also seeing sources (reddit will not let me link for whatever reason) that about 58% of Americans have either experience or know someone that has experienced gun violence.", "It won’t. As a former prosecutor I wouldn’t even bother trying against any Rodriguez violation that came across my desk.* The person won’t so much as get charged.\n\nthere are some very interesting exceptions to the exclusionary rule. I never saw any but they do exist. So even a Rodriguez violation isn’t a total shield.", "Those cops are real pieces of shit.", "They didn’t just make that ruling. That’s the only case on the matter. It’s the* case on the matter. I don’t know where you got 15 mins from but that’s never been what the Constitution demands (and would be an absolutely ridiculous holding because the idea that 15 mins is unconstitutional but 14m59s is not is an absurdity).", "Fun fact, some of the stuff Jay-Z has talked about in that case still hasn’t been litigated before the Supreme Court. For example, police very well may be able to search a locked glove compartment incident to an arrest (or otherwise). SCOTUS has never taken that case.", "He started a one-man non-profit in his home, and eventually ran out of money. How is that the “feminists” fault again? Were the millions of non-feminists of Canada incapable of funding him?", "There is no time limit. The standard simply asks whether the stop is prolonged beyond the time reasonably required to complete the interaction for which the person was stopped. \n\nThe Constitution demanding a time limit would be an absurdity.", "I have a business card in my wallet and the number in my phone as \"Lawyer\". \n\nIf I get arrested, unless I manage to really piss off the police I expect they'd provide me a number off the card from my wallet when requested after booking, as getting in the way of letting an arrestee contact their legal representation is going to be looked upon poorly by the court.", "At which point the prosecutor will drop the case the instant they get it because of an obvious Rodriguez violation. \n\nThese cases are not dancing on the edge of the knife trials. They’re always bluntly one way or the other. \n\nSource: was a prosecutor. Have literally never even heard of an officer getting away with that bullshit tactic.", "That was his fatal mistake. Why enable those asshats to waste more of your time?! Get a warrant, asshats!!!", "This is demonstrably and absurdly false.", "In the wise words of Rage Against the Machine- \"The land of the free- whoever told you that was your enemy!\"", ">English grievances with England\n\nThere's like a 50% chance they're not talking about America at all in this sentence, the English civil war was a thing, and a considerable amount of the reason for the war was unfair courts and a political system that privileged certain social classes above others, They literally Executed the king because of it . The High Court of Justice had declared Charles I guilty of attempting to \"uphold in himself an unlimited and tyrannical power to rule according to his will, and to overthrow the rights and liberties of the people\" he was sentenced to death, and beheaded. They wanted to establish that everyone was equal under the law... literally. They ultimately became a monarchy again only a few years after.", "Are you regarded?", "Oh wait - who said \n\n> You'll never guess who pioneered Civil Asset Forfeiture in Congress..... Joe Biden ... \n\nhmm - oh - that was you. \n\n> you manage to prove my point several times, so thanks.\n\nIf your point was that others in the House wrote the law, passed it up to Strom Thurmand who submitted it with 21 other sponsors, and signed it along with 96 other senators ... so claiming Biden is the guy pioneering it is false ... then sure. You're welcome.", "No, someone else responded, but since you're too lazy or incompetent to figure things out for yourself: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/stephen-lara-nevada-asset-forfeiture-adoption/2021/09/01/6f170932-06ae-11ec-8c3f-3526f81b233b_story.html", "npnp", "Oh lol i miss read your comment thinking it was about a capital, not capital. Lol my bad.", "I’ve commented on a post below this re: the DPP (like your DA in the USA) prosecutor. It is absolutely gobsmacking that it was even entertained by the DPP, but I think that’s part of the issue that ties this all together - rather than acting independently as they should, they often seem to act in unison with police to help build a case when there really wasn’t any solid grounds for one to start with. Basically just supporting the police agenda without question.\n\n\nAs with the DA I imagine, a big part of the role of the DPP in Australia is to take the facts of the case as provided to them by the police, consider the charges that the police wish to bring and then decide based on that information if there is a case to answer for those charges, in which case they will proceed to prosecute the case on behalf of the police or government) or if the charges should be modified to more suitable charges that they feel will be successful or indeed if the whole thing should be dropped completely due lack of case. The DPP are the government/police lawyers and legal representatives, the police are just the evidence gatherers. (Very simplified explanation but you get the idea I’m sure)", "What happens to digital money when the power is out?", "Dude doesn't trust banks??? A wire transfer could have saved so much trouble. Not even if the cops were involved, I would be anxious going about with 10k in cash. you lose it, its gone. just transfer it over to the daughter's place. you can't trust cops.\n\nlove how the cop was like \"you're a vet, i'm a vet\"...like bruh..and you still play him dirty??", "Its impossible to care about stuff like that when you work 2 jobs and can barely afford rent. The average American only makes 30k and is barely political.", "Civil asset forfeiture is a bitch.", " ^ fatherless behavior", "And if you live or travel within 100 miles of an American border, the 4th amendment doesn't exist either.", "Seems like so many modern governmental overreaches can be attributed to Reagan.", "I did about 4 years in law enforcement and gave it up cause it disgusted me. 90% of traffic \"laws\" exist simply to provide officers an excuse to pull people over. It's called \"building the stop.\" There is almost no vehicle on the road that couldn't be pulled over for some reason. People have no idea just how few rights they have until they have an interaction with a gung ho cop.", "It's safe and sound until the power comes back.\n\nWhat happens to paper money when there is a fire?", "Yes I think our country would be better if we didn’t have state sponsors gangs killing and robbing innocent people. Next question.", "Even that claim in the article is disputed. You are being intentionally dishonest presenting it the way you have. Also quit crying when you make a claim and people ask for sources. You are the lazy one to not provide it.", "And it's useless as long as there isn't any power. Or the internet is down. Cash always works.\n\n\nI've had this problem often enough due to living rural.", "Thank the Patriot Acts for that.", "just like how we have a presidential election every 4 years and everyone ignores the ones in between and the lower levels of government and just dot in whoever is already there, do no research, then wonder why the fuck their reps are complete idiots or shitbags, and nothing changes or it gets worse.", "The US is generally a lawless place", "Yep, we need to make sure to only blame republicans with this. The simpler the narrative, the wider the audience, the higher the upvotes.", "And i thought the russian police was bad but this is on a whole other level.", "Having some cash on hand in case of emergency is fine. Having your life savings in cash is stupid.", "[Always have to shut the fuck up!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcZoCY7fUXg)", "Literally has the receipts, but drug proceeds…abuse of power. I wouldn’t be surprised if a portion of the kickback goes to the officers as well", "Reasonable articulable suspicion of a crime is PC, lol. Running a dog is trying to obtain RAC, ie a dog hitting on your car.", "He didn't want to put the money in the bank because bank accounts can be frozen and levied. He's behind on his taxes and child support.", "Well, I don't hold US cash either. Hell, I moved to the UK in 2019, all my savings is in British £s. That I do keep in the bank because I DO think the UK is solvent and while going in the wrong direction, still a functioning democracy.", "This guy made a huge mistake by letting those thugs with guns search his vehicle.\n\nLet that be a lesson to anyone and everyone. When a cop asks to search you or your property, the answer should ALWAYS be \"No.\"", ">Well, I don't hold US cash either. Hell, I moved to the UK in 2019, all my savings is in British £s. That I do keep in the bank because I DO think the UK is solvent and while going in the wrong direction, still a functioning democracy.", "They did and up with a settlement and equal government, it's how most wars end.\n\nAmerica becomes a sovereign state and then there is all the federal \"fun\"", "Both approach has its pros and cons, but from the Law's perspective, the innocent and the victim of a wrongdoing should not have to pay Lawyer fees. The U.S. approach creates great opportunities for frivolous lawsuits, for example.", "I wear those downvotes with pride, just like I am proud when an idiot makes fun of me", "Just like this POS woman [Jemma Beale](https://nypost.com/2017/08/25/woman-heading-to-prison-after-falsely-accusing-15-men-of-rape/) in England accused 15 different men of rape on 4 different occasions, the 4th occasion was against 4 medical professionals (read-wealthy) and the police did a real investigation. This lead to the surprise revelation that the woman was a bottom feeding liar. Now all of the previous convictions are being looked into, but I guarantee that the previous 11 men have had their lives irrevocably damaged and will never been rightly compensated. Even if they are paid out, the money will come from the taxpayer and some shit you just can't put right when it's broken. Rape is a horrible crime, but so is ruining someone's life because you are a fucking cunt.", "sure, but the banks have much more illegal money than this dude has (he had no illegal money on him) whereas there is at least 1 dollar of illegal money in every single armored bank truck.\n\nso if they are going to pull over a random citizen and steal all of his money for zero reason, why don't they do that to armored cars as well. they have just as much of a reason (even more of a reason to assume the bank trucks are trafficking drug money than a random citizen)\n\nbut of course we all know why they don't get pulled over, because the government/cops are paid for by the banks that launder the drug money they then use to pay the politicians and cops.\n\nit makes me sad that what i am talking about isn't the focus of r/conspiracy and instead they are obsessed with bullshit lies.\n\nif the gov can take this dude's money away there is really no reason that they can't take money away from banks. besides the fact that the banks own law enforcement.", "In my state if you are even charged with a DUI, even if the charges are immediately dropped, you are required to jump through some hoops and get dui counseling, which are provided by private businesses, which you are required to pay for out of pocket. So bring charged with a dui, even if it is completely ridiculous will cost you a minimum of about $1,000. These numbers are from when it happened to me in 2013 so they have probably gone up. Yay, America.", "Because armored trucks have a known, good reason to be carrying cash around. An individual traveling around with stacks of cash is inherently suspicious. There's just no need in modern society unless you're a criminal or just stupid/paranoid. The guy's frankly a fucking moron for doing this, but it still shouldn't be so easy for cops to seize it.", "This is the way", "Because the idea that someone is honestly carrying around his life's savings in cash for non-criminal reasons just defies belief. It still shouldn't be so easy for police to seize cash like this, but there's simply no good reason for anyone to carry around that much cash. It's extremely risky and inconvenient. Likely the guy is stupid and/or paranoid to the point that he thought this was a good idea.", "If your money ever becomes \"uninsured\" then the government has fallen and your money is just worthless paper anyway. The bank is paying you interest and offering you services in return for using your money. If the government's after you, I don't see how keeping your money in cash will do anything to save you.", "WOW, i just read that source, i mean i knew that civil forfeiture laws were a miscarriage of justice but this shit is just ridiculous. I'm done here, see you guys in Europe or the South Pacific.", "Only if you've already give a shitload of that \"speech\" to a sitting politician.", "I dunno man, I've had a bank account my whole life and never once has the bank decided whether it's going to give me my money or not, it's automatic. Actually it's based entirely on whether you have available funds, and if you want to get technical there is sometimes fraud detection which can put a hold on a transaction until you confirm, but that's a good thing right? You're acting like this stuff is done on a whim, have you ever had a bank account before? I've never ever heard of a bank not following a customers instruction because they just didn't feel like it.", "Yes, sorry, I was speaking of major party orientation (Republican/Democrat in the US) and not the actual left, where politicians have indeed been fighting for prison reform. I should have made that distinction when I referred to 'any side' of politics above. Anyone calling themselves a leftist or who is interested in improving social conditions should be advocating for prison reform.", "That's not the official feminism stance that's the batshit \"vocal minority\" part of the group that gives feminism it's bad name. \n\nWhereas Google MRA groups right now on any social media, I've never found one that actually gives a single shit about men's rights that's the point I'm making. They are almost exclusively vessels to hate woman and feminism, the posts aren't \"the majority of successful suicides are men\" they are \"blue hair fat lesbian shouts at old man to revoke his male privilege\". \n\nWhat I'm suggesting is we make genuine based MRA groups that actually distance themselves from the woman bashers and address men's rights, instead of for some reason suggesting \"feminism\" solves all of societies issues for both genders.", "> It's not \"everywhere\". It's where they can get away with it, and where there are enough people to poach.\n\n-\n\nyou say this like they're different places lol. I get what you're saying, it's just called profiling. they decide who the marks are, this happens during the stop and they have literally nothing to lose by it. even if you manage to successfully sue, this only gets your own assets back, they've got immunity from any wrongdoing in the process through this black hole of federal infrastructure.\n\nthis is why defunding federally backed seizure was such a huge blow to the ruse, all of a sudden they have to follow state law, and their department is on the hook for every dollar they take", "Rename the White House, Red. At least itll be coherent", "Thank you, hopefully one of these days people will stop feeding the site money and then it will die and we can be free from this prison", "LMAO", "Alright so how would you deal with school shootings, murders, rapes and other terrible crimes, nevermind the milder ones? Or do you just support them?", "🐷", "👍", "Same thing happened to me (in 1991 in NJ). If key is somewhere in compartment of vehicle, you are \"in control\" of it.", "It's kind of ironic that Mr. Orange \"I have the best words\" Littlehands coined the derogatory term \"Shithole Country\". \nI wouldn't ever use that term in any other context, but to me, stories about American cops, the judicial system, the electoral system, and about American penal institutions regularly trigger the thought that he truly was the highest ranking official of exactly that- a shithole country with rampant corruption and an institutional architecture that got stuck in the late 18th century.", "Civil forfeiture baby.", "I will say that with the Rittenhouse trial, the jury probably answered, to the best of their ability, the questions set before them to judge.\n\nAs to Rittenhouse, he is no hero. He went there with a gun, he knew full well he would probably be using it before the night was over. I believe he will probably kill again if given the chance (he just put himself in the right place at the right time and knew the law would be on his side).\n\nHe has white-power backers. He hangs with them, that’s been shown and is a known fact.\n\nThe trial was to the law, though. I can say that. I followed some of the trial.\n\nIt’s just that he put himself there. It would be like killing someone in a mosh pit. You know it isn’t right, but everyone showed up to the fight.", "You’re really struggling with this eh? It’s the same damn point, which is that if they want to fuck you over, they will. \n\nTake the video I posted and replace it with a canine search. You think if that guy just said “oh sorry coppers but you can’t actually make me wait for a search” that they would have just been like “oh okay you got us, have a great day!” \n\nYou clearly have never been in this situation before and if you have you got lucky and had a nice cop. Like yes you’re SUPPOSED to be able to leave if you aren’t being detained etc but my entire point (to which there is hours and hours of video evidence and even more anecdotal) is that they WON’T let you leave even if it’s in your rights sometimes \n\nIt’s not my problem if you’re completely ignorant and don’t get it", "It’s not the internet that makes it seem like that… It’s all the stupid people on the internet that make it seem like that.", "Joe is a pioneer.\nAlong with everyone else you mentioned, because one man doesn't pass legislation \nHis own 'reforms' of the failed 83 were included in 84.", "Probably also looked a certain way.", "In a HEAVY downpour, I once ended up going the wrong way down a one way street. Got pulled over, the cop was a friend of mine from the bar I was a cook at. Similar situation.\n\nBut even he would remind me occasionally that cops are NOT the good guys. Like, \"if you ever get pulled over, keep your yap shut...\" kind of stuff.", "exactly", "What a dumb fucking question. No one supports crime dumb ass. You target crime at the source. You invest in education, in jobs, etc. \n\nYou pass gun control laws so kids don’t have access to mass killing weapons. You don’t need some lard ass cop in schools to brutalize kids for being late to class or having a mental health breakdown like what already happens now though.\n\nDo you like it when cops attack innocent civilians? You must support when cops kill and rob innocent people huh boot licker. Get out of my face", "No, you're very wrong. \n\nA dog hitting on your car is probable cause. You need nothing to run a dog around the exterior of a car because it's a free air sniff, meaning there is no expectation of privacy on the exterior of your car. \n\nRAS is what is needed to detain a person, stop a car, etc. \n\nProbable cause is needed to arrest or charge.", "Wait so what you're saying is that we just have to get rid of crime in order to not need cops? Of course, that's so simple? Why did no one think of that?!\n\nYou didn't answer my question though. What if someone just drove through a crowd of people kn the street for fun? How would you deal with that without cops?", "Tumescent tutelage", "You can be right wing, and still support gay marriage, not like the police, etc etc.", "You are a prime example of why sniffing paint is bad. Have you tried not being stupid?", "\"If you cannot afford one, one will be appointed by the state\"'\n\nEdit: A lot of lawyers will represent you FOR FREE if they feel like your case will net a big settlement", "> they shot a dude in a wheelchair 8 times in the back last week for not respecting their authority. \n\nLooks like the guy insisted on entering a store while brandishing and threatening with a deadly weapon though .... should the cops instead of let the guy proceed and potentially kill other people in that store? \n\nReal question ... what was a better option here - how could they stop him exactly without potentially being attacked and potentially killed by the guys knife? They couldn't even know whether the guy couldn't jump out of the wheelchair at any moment (could be fake for purposes of stealing)?\n\nIf they really shot him in the back, maybe they should have got in front of him again before shooting, sure, but would it have changed the basic equation of a suspect threatening with a deadly weapon, not obeying commands to stop and drop the weapon?", "So private citizens should not be private and be state owned! That will fix the problem right? Fucking idiot.", "Libertarians can be right or left. I am right and libertarian. Right wing does not equal conservative.", "I'm scared of girls. (Sorry assuming gender) I can't kith her.", "I think the stop reason code the officer stop you for was DWB, or driving while black. It's a serious issue, especially south the Mason-Dixon line on I-95, it puts all other drivers at a serious risk and can lead to increased deadly police shootings and higher rates of township/state income from traffic fines. \n\n/s", "its valid logic.", "A lot of us care but politicians that keep stealing our rights get \"elected\" in anyway", "Chuckles in Reagan and Nixon that actually started this", "More assets are lost through civil asset forfeiture than burglary in the US. \n\nIf you had an airbnb in the US, would you lock the door while you went out to dinner? Or is burglary not probable enough to be a sensible thing to worry about?", "It almost seems like you don't understand that the total dollar value has nothing to do with the probability of this happening to an individual.", "Only 2% get a trial? How does that work?", "You got it backwards. PC is to detain/search. Ras of a crime to do it without consent.", "Is there any more info on this?", "The criminal guilty verdict necessitates a beyond reasonable doubt evidence standard. Agree that police departments getting even a cut of the assets creates a perverse incentive, but until that guilty verdict is in, there should be no auctions or evictions and those assets should be going nowhere. \n\nFundamentally, the whole concept of parallel court proceedings for a crime and a civil case to dispose of the assets, even when the criminal case fails to convict, is corrupt and rotting the justice system.", "It was talking about America. \n\nPartly it was just reversing the revolutionary and civil war, like the guy before me did, but part of it was also that in America a lot of people pretend that the American civil war was about anything other than slavery, which is very false; it was strictly about slavery.", "I was talking about the civil war, not the actual revolution. Like the guy before me, the joke was that I reversed the two.", "I feel like I'm being trolled. \n\nEither you're referring to non US law, or you are just wrong. I'm not sure.", "I know it's hard for your tiny obsequious brain to grasp, but lets try. Now say it with me, \"Police have no right to perform extrajudicial murder.\"\n\nRepeat 3 times daily for reinforcement.", "Never hold US currency ever. Only use currency to pay your carrying charges where required and hold your money in assets like crypto, silver and gold.", "The point of being a cop is to hurt citizens. It's what fascism is all about. Fuck you for the sake of fuck you.", "Yup. Still waiting on 40k and my Benz to be returned from Texas.", "Yea, that’s what I alluded to in my original comment. I never said my way was perfect. You need to calm down and read better.", "Same except they found 40k in my trunk (accounted for, even had all the bank statements with me) so they took that and took my car which was a 2016 Mercedes Benz cla 250 with Amg upgrades that only had like 20k miles. Shit is probably a lemon now, it’s been almost 2 or 3 years at this point that I’ve been waiting for a court date because they know they can’t win. So they just keep pushing it back to try and play the long game so you either run out of money to put towards the case or get tired of waiting and give up and forfeit it. Honestly one of the most disgusting practices in America. Any officer that does this policing for profit shit should be charged with armed theft", "He doesn’t trust banks but he trusts in the US dollar? If he would have converted that money into Bitcoin a year ago he’d be sitting on a million right now. They also wouldn’t have been able to confiscate it.", "Just as I thought. You’re an idiot. You talk shit about non compliance with law enforcement and expect no physical resistance.", "...but you don't have to wait for the dog...because it would take to long\n\nat some point it becomes a detention and they can't do that without a reason.", "> If you cannot afford one, one will be appointed by the state\n\nThat's for criminal cases... this is a civil suit, and the way forfeiture works is that the burden of proof is on you, the one the assets were seized from, to prove the assets were NOT used in drug trafficking. This works because the government is suing you stuff, and your stuff doesn't have rights. You assets are guilty until proven innocent.\n\nForfeiture cases do not net big settlements, winning the suit, which happens infrequently, just means your assets are returned to you. Your options if you're poor are to hope your story goes viral and an organization like the justice Institute will take the case for you, or to get fucked.", "Since when has something being illegal stopped cops from doing something?\n\nThey get qualified immunity. They're allowed to be wrong.", "As pro BLM and equal rights movement I am, none of the riots last year were chill and I would rather things not get to that point again, hence the curfews. If that’s not an emergency then what is lol", "What?", "I gave you the standard verbatim and you downvote me for it and then argue. That is an exact quote from the Supreme Court. Argue with them if you want. \n\nI am an attorney who has prosecuted maybe 40 cases that started with canines alerting to drugs during a traffic stop. \n\nYou can either learn something about your rights or keep your incorrectly held “15-30mins” belief. It’s inconsequential to me.", "That becomes an issue when protestors come prepared for violence from police and get labelled as rioters and looters.", "Yalls statements would have a bit more power if the \"left\" didn't line up behind the dems everytime they said get down on your knees.", "Yeah this one was definitely our fault.", "I didn't understand entirely, holding someone AFTER you've ticketed them for 1 second is unreasonable.", "But I'm not condoning the cops. Rather I'm condemning the system as a whole. Blaming individual cops isn't very helpful when the system itself allows for the abuse. We should fix the system so that it isn't up to an individual cop's sense of morality to decide whether to do the right thing or not.", "But we fixed that issue by making slavery illegal, not by posting memes about slave owners online. You can't give people the choice to commit morally reprehensible acts that benefit them and then be surprised when they decide to act that way.", "Indeed. We have no rights and we'll continue to have no rights until we decide to stand up and change things.", "Many do. I'll be confident saying most do. Its hard to change things with oligarchs in charge. You can't knowingly choose that.", "Just like left side internet, only the most aggressive believers really talk a lot. The boots on the ground IRL are much less insufferable. Although those videos of the american socialists make the IRL left look as crazy as the online ones. That conference was bonkers. \n\nStart with the grownup adult libertarians for a taste. [Reason.com](https://Reason.com) isn't a bad place, tends to much to the legal side for my tastes though.", "What meme bro? It's a video of the cops taking 100k from a veteran \"because they're legally allowed to\". It's bringing to light yet another issue with American police and the power they hold. \n\nAbusing their legally allowed powers would be a form of corruption as well. So yes, by corrupt, we fuckin mean corrupt lmao.", "As someone who identifies closer with the Libertarian party than either of the 2 main ones, I am glad you made that distinction. 🍻", "I don’t know if I’d go that far but I do agree with your general vibe", "1 in 20 chance is 4x the rate of rape in the outside world. If you want to change to harassment they don't even track that in prison its probably close to 100% there. So ya sending 20 people to prison for weed, only one will get raped. \n\nThe thing that makes me angry, is people say thats bad lets arrest idiots for X. They never acknowledge the fact that its a death sentence for some, life ruining for many others. All for things that don't impact you, and are only morally wrong in your world view. \n\nAnd we let the oligarchs use the cops to enforce their profits. Walmart doesn't like shoplifting, so they outsource the security to local PD. In my first statement the company didn't want to be hassled to do the bare minimum of preventing theft so they had the cops ruin lives at no cost to the company.", "My pronouns are Xi/Shumbla/Plehgm.\n\nAnd yes, we do. We can.", "You’re a reasonable person, I can agree with some of what you’re saying. We probably won’t agree on why it’s happening though. Regardless, it’s funny how you’re getting downvoted for even saying the US is better than some countries. Lmao, reddit is such a fucking obnoxious echo chamber of sheep.", "If you think the US is so shitty, leave. People have been immigrating since the beginning of humanity. Nothing is stopping you now.", "Tell people that someone did a bad that they don't like and they're ready to execute the person on the way to the jail house before they've even been indicted.", "Not quite. The holding is this:\n\n>\ta police stop exceeding the time needed to handle the matter for which the stop was made violates the Constitution’s shield against unreasonable seizures.\n\nThe standard for “exceeding” is “any measurable amount.” This is a very fact based analysis but if the stop is prolonged by even an instant to wait for the dog, the seizure (of the person) is now unlawful. \n\nSo a court may look at how long a stop like this normally takes, whether the officer was intentionally delaying or stalling the stop (I threw out a case once because a trooper stopped to tie his shoe), and whether the driver consented to waiting for the canine. \n\nOne very slick thing that officers have started doing in states like Arizona, Nevada, and Texas is to give the ticket back (ending the stop), and then saying the person is free to go. They’ll then follow up with “oh hey, while you’re here could I ask just a few more things though?” And they’ll wait for the dogs that way. \n\nIt hasn’t made it to the Supreme Court, but the question is whether telling the person they’re free to go ends the seizure and transforms it into a purely consensual stop. \n\nThe law is hard.", "No dip shit. You must be a cop because clearly you are too stupid too understand how targeting the key indicators that led people to crime ie poverty and education you can greatly reduce crime and thus reduce your need for cops. This isn’t a hard concept to grasp.\n\nCops were literally on the scene in Waukesha Christmas act and didn’t prevent it. Why tf do we need cops if they are failing at the main goal.. too stop crime.", "Getting the money returned doesn't negate the original act of taking it. He had receipts, there was no probable cause. The dog alerting is junk science that is used only to give the cops some modicum of cover.", "Great reply smh. Explain that logic. How pointing out how bad bush is makes that a defense of trump?", "Lmao are you retarded or something\n\nLet's say we did that. Now that would reduce crime, not eliminate it. What about the crimes that still do happen? Should we just let them go unpunished?", "So what would be your solution? Keep complaining until cops stop being \"mean\"?", "I'd be very interested to see what proportion of asset forfeiture cases involve foreign-based organized crime vs cases like a lawn mowing crew getting rolled by county deputies for the $1250 in cash they have on them. Offhand I'd guess it'd be <0.1%, but then again I might be surprised.\n\nRegardless, my understanding is that we had a legal framework for freezing and seizing foreign assets long before civil asset forfeiture was a thing.", "How did humans exist before police were invented? Did society not start until 1844? You pigs are fucking dumb.", "Cheers homie. I don't like the top side of the political compass (authoritarian). I can get along with anyone from the bottom (libertarian). Left or right. When you start telling me what I have to do because the government said so it pisses me off.\n\nExamples: Vaccine mandates (seriously tho yall should get vaxxed), Abortion Bans, Religion in schools, cops writing speeding tickets, and property taxes. To name a few", "Tell me more about how everyone is privileged? Is everyone equally privileged?", "How did they exist? What did they do to criminals?", "It seems you need to be educated in reading comprehension and logic but let me explain to what has happened here. \n\n\n>Trump bad. Terrible. Among the worst.\n\n>No. Trump is a saint compared to bush. \n\nWas that difficult for you?\n\nI can try to dumb it down a little more.", "Reddit’s a funny world, I like to make fun of the US as much as any other non-American, I just try to keep it realistic. Would love to hear your opinion on it tho, for me it comes down to the for profit media turning everyone against each other and the overall government being completely infested by corporate money, two party system is terrible in my opinion, but ingrained as fuck.", "> It's cheaper to pay literally ANY common traffic ticket than it is to get arrested\n\nI just want to point out that is not necessarily the case. I am not sure how the US / other countries work but in Canada we have something called \"Demerit points\". You have 15 total and once you lose those you lose your license. A distracted driving charge for example loses you 3 demerits. \n\nNow here is the catch, because the fucking insurance companies are a bunch of scam artists, they will use those demerits to increase your insurance rates. \n\nSo while it may seem like paying that $300 fine is worth it, you end up paying thousands in insurance because of that.\n\nNow I am not suggesting you should get in a confrontation with the police over a traffic ticket I just want to point out it's not as easy as paying that fine.\n\nIf you do get a fine... ALWAYS, and I mean ALWAYS go to court. If you are reasonable person / speaker you will likely get it reduced or even thrown out and in Canada they usually drop the demerits if you go to court and make even a semi reasonable case. \n\nEven if you still eat the fine and demertis, If nothing else you fucked them out of $5000 in court fees and time.", "Ah thanks for pointing out the strawman argument that your faulty logic stems from.\n\nLiterally no where in this comment section will you find “Trump is a saint compared to bush”\n\nI’ve actually went out of my way to preface that calling out how disastrous Bush has been foreign and domestic is elevating trump. \n\nYou might want to take your own advice and get some of that reading comprehension you claim others don’t have. The projection is strong with you.", "Invalidate my logic. I'll wait.", "Repeat after me I wish to remain silent until my attorney is present because anything I say will be used against me in court. Then stop speaking", "Don’t tread on us", "Based on polling and the primaries preceding the super tuesday folds, Bernie Sanders would have won, Warren could have won, hell even the empty vessel that is Pete buttigieg could have won. The entire 2020 democratic platform can be reduced down to two things: be not Trump, and co-opt and water down progressive activist rhetoric and policy goals. One may make the argument that \"America isn't ready for a socialist!\", but I'll refute that two ways. One, Bernie is NOT a socialist. He's very much a capitalist that wants to back peddle from the neoliberal policies borne of the Regan Era libertarian think tanks. Two, even Biden was branded as a socialist by the right; no amount of corporate dick sucking was going to sway republican wedge voters.\n\nThings Biden could do without congress: decriminalization and or legalization of Marijuana (depending on what constitutional scholars you ask), pardon some of the hundred of thousands of people people serving time because of drug enforcement legislation authored by Biden. End the inhumane treatment of immigrants and asylum seekers on the border (you know the kids in cages thing that everyone was mad at trump for). Forgive federal student loan debt. Actually use the bully pulpit to advocate policy instead of waxing and waning about Republicans.\n\n If democrats actually changed the material conditions of people in this country, they would win every single election by a land slide. Instead they do as little as humanly possible while the right continues to ratchet us towards total corporate control\n\nhttps://www.stopmebeforeivoteagain.org/stopme/chapter02.html", "Here is the thing with speedy. Once you are charged, you have a right to a speedy trial. Prosecutors know this, so get everything nice and lined up, all their T's are dotted and I's are crossed. Basically they are ready to rock and roll the moment the cuffs are slapped on. Your lawyer on the defense side is only able to start AFTER you've been arrested. A speedy trial can be actually prejudiced against you This is why some states have laws setting minimum trail times. Your lawyer will need time to review the evidence, time to get witness statements research the relevant law, file motions, find witnesses etc... In these cases your lawyer will advise you to \"waive speedy\" this means you will not invoke your rights to a speedy trial, and it will give your lawyer time to prepare. \n\nIf you are arrested and the prosecution is a fucking shit show, your lawyer will push your right to a speedy trial, because then it is in your favor to do so. \n\nThere are other benefits to waiving speedy. For instance you committed a crime and you are looking at serving between 1-3 years. While awaiting trial you are usually held in local jails and not prison, local jails are always preferred. Lets say you waive speedy and your defense team delays for a year, then everyday you can delay you get closer to having the prosecution team say \"fuck it\" and just offering a settlement for time served. \n\nIn fact I knew someone who did something similar. He was able to report to jail every night at 9pm, and could leave at 6am. and stayed every weekend from 9pm friday to 6am monday. dude did this for about a year, and finally was offered a deal for time served. Missed very little time with the family, and kept his job.", "Lol classic ignorant response. My entire family unit and business ventures are engrained in this country. Leaving is not really a viable option. I have the right to think this country is riddles with problems and live in it at the same time.\n\nAre you conditioned to be patriotic? Cops in this country can literally kill you on false pretenses and get away with it. I pay $50 each for 2 inhalers once a month I need for my health based on genetic bad luck. I paid the hospital 8k for having a child. \n\nDude this is a mess.", "Some countries aren’t even allowed privately owned businesses. You sure seem to have it good in this “shitty” country.\n\nCops in this country have falsely killed people before, it is unlawful and action should be taken for each instance. However, all cops are not pigs and the bad are the few. There is more statistical evidence I can provide for my statement if you wish. You have eyes but you fail to see, you’re brainwashed and only listen to what you want to hear, in your own little echo chamber.\n\n\nThe country has problems, sure, on both sides. However, to claim this country is a deplorable hell hole is both ignorant and spoken only by the truly privileged. \n\nThis country is, without a doubt, at least, one of the best countries in the world. \n\nYou want a literal hell hole? Go live in cuba. Where your work bonus is a pair of cheap Chinese jeans so you can work more. Where your property, assets and personal belongings can be taken away without any prior notice. Where even speaking against the revolution can land you in jail for an indefinite amount of time, or killed. In this “shitty” country, you have the full legal ability to speak against anything you view unjust or wrong, even if you’re in the minority. Solely for this reason, it is one of the best countries in the world.\n\nMillennial shitheads don’t know how good they got it, so how do you show them the other perspective? Leave, experience true oppression.\n\nI’m not a patriot at all, I’m a Cuban immigrant. I’ll live wherever I can succeed and provide for my family, the US provides the environment.", "Unless you get fined for something that wasn't your fault, penalized for something that wasn't your fault, etc.", "There is usually a defined limit on speedy and minimums my state is 120. I bet you can find your states as well", "It is. That's why you waive. The prosecution is ready to go. Your lawyer needs the time", "Backwards. You have to waive speedy, you don't have to request a right, hence the term right", "Absolutely. Lib-left, lib-center, or lib-right is still better than anything authoritarian.", "You're going to pay those fines/penalties regardless of whether you keep your money in a bank or not. Otherwise you're going to prison or living a life in isolation from all friends/family. Even if you became a fugitive they'd likely still be able to recoup those penalties from the physical property you leave behind (e.g. your house/car).", "You can try that, it wont end well. For instance you are tried for murder. You don't waive speedy the trial starts in 30 days. The prosecution presents all its witnesses, and your defense team wasnt able to file any motions and they couldn't locate your alby. Now you're rotting in jail for life.", "In no way shape or form would ANY DUI eat up four years. These cases aren't that complex, and no judge would ever allow such nonsense.", "Corruption implies that the system isn't working.\n\nIt is working, exactly as intended.", "I literally don't trust my money to have value tomorrow. Which is why I never have more than $500 in savings. The systems that run modern society are collapsing. You can accept this or run from it.", "I am an advantage player. I travel the United States beating the game blackjack at moderately high stakes, which is completely legal everywhere in the world. This requires me to carry cash, because banks rarely have enough cash on hand for me to withdraw, and wiring the money would mean giving my name to casinos who are allowed to refuse me business, which clearly, I don't want.\n\nUnder civil asset forfeiture, the money I am legally allowed to have on me for a completely legal purpose can be seized and my livelihood ruined.\n\nHonestly though, the point is moot. It doesn't matter if having large amounts of cash is for a good reason or a stupid/paranoid one. Cops shouldn't be allowed to steal your shit for no reason", "I meant with the no rights part", "I didn't want to outright say the guy was lying, but yeah - four years does seem incredible. I can't speak for all states though, and who knows, maybe a couple of judges died mid proceeding lol.", "If they prevent you from leaving and you end up staying, everything after that point is inadmissible in court. Yeah, you can't beat the ride, but if you really so have drugs or something, you won't be going to jail for it because it was an illegal search.", "Yeah but in my country the police do not mug you. We dont need all that shit you came up with. Because the police do not mug you here. \n\nThe fact that you wrote two paragraphs on how to be ok with the police mugging you, is a unique problem that no other country has.\n\nEDIT: I'm still bad at words though.", "Don't strawman. That's a shitty thing to do. \n\nI never said that I'm ok with police mugging. I said you should try to be careful. \n\nI'm not ok with people murdering me for my race. But I will avoid backwood towns in Missouri to lower the odds. There's a huge difference between taking precautions and being cool with something. \n\n\nWas Anne frank cool with Nazis just because she figured hiding in an attic would increase her odds of safety?", "Yeah, what's more likely, though? A guy carrying $80K in cash in his car is a traveling blackjack player trying to duck casino security, or a drug dealer? One is way, way more common. Also, can you not notify the branch in advance that you're going to be making a large withdrawal?\n\n> Cops shouldn't be allowed to steal your shit for no reason\n\nI agree it shouldn't be so easy for them, but 99% of the time it probably is ill-gotten money.", "are you implying that cops would never turn off their bodycam when they about to do something bad? LOL", "I don't give a flying fuck what is more likely. Carrying cash is legal. Full stop. Unless the police can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the assets they are seizing are directly related to illicit activity, they should not have to right to confiscate anything.\n\n>can you not notify the branch in advance that you're going to be making a large withdrawal?\n\nI have tried this three times. One time I actually called the bank a month, a week, and 2 days ahead of time and this was for a fairly small withdrawal (less than 20k). Every time they assured me, \"yes Ms. Jiggy90, well have your cash ready\".\n\nWhen I got there, the teller stared at me blankly, then called the manager. The manager then told me they never carry that much cash on hand at any given time, even after I said I'd called ahead of time. I had to go to 4 different banks to withdraw my bankroll, and this is not an uncommon story, Colin Jones had the same experience which he writes about in \"The 21st Century Card Counter\".", "I am sorry that this seems like a straw man. I did not mean it that way. We still have a racist colonial police force in my country. But the worrying thing is, that even though the history of our police is intricately tied to colonial forces, we still do not have anything even close to civil forfeiture laws. Those laws really are an unthinkable nightmare that is hard to conceptualize here. He do have anti-drug driving laws, allowing the police to pull people over if they think they are high. But even with that, they do not even search the vehicle on that charge. Searches without very concrete reason are not allowed in court, so the police have to be careful with what they do. We do have a high death rate on our roads, so our police are mostly concerned with actual safety and reducing that toll. \n\nOur police are not good, and have a history of racism. But they still will still not steal your money on the roads. That is not a straw man. There is no other English speaking country that allows that. The US's civil forfeiture laws are unique to the US, and are a nightmare to the rest of the world.", "The police shouldn't have the option in the first place. Just like I don't blame the doctor who decides not to abort a fetus due to religious objection, I blame the lawmakers who made it illegal.", "> Carrying cash is legal. Full stop. Unless the police can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the assets they are seizing are directly related to illicit activity, they should not have to right to confiscate anything.\n\nCarrying legal cash is legal. They only need probable cause to seize the cash initially. Same way they could take your knife without trial/warrant if they have probable cause to believe it's a murder weapon at the scene. And if you're carting $80K in cash around without good reason, which means there's probably like a 99% chance it's criminal, that's enough basis to take it IMO. Same idea behind seizing a glass pipe (or arresting the owner) - even if there's no crack residue on it yet, that's very likely the intended purpose. Subsequently, there's nothing in the Constitution that requires \"proof beyond a reasonable doubt\" in a civil case.\n\nThe problem here is that, though the guy is a moron, he had proof that the cash was legal, and just in general the process should be improved (e.g. shifting the burden of proof) even if it's Constitutional as things stand.\n\n> I have tried this three times.\n\nAh, okay. I had a feeling it was something like that.", "👮‍♂️🚫💉🤒🤮⚰🪦\n\nhttps://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-19-police-officers-leading-cause-death/", "Yeah 100% this is bullshit, or leaving out some incredibly relevant facts. Fuck the OJ trial from the time of murder to acquittal, only took a year and a half. Shit the the trial for the executives at Enron only took 2 and half years. Therano's took just over three and one year of those was during COVID shutdowns. All of these are VASTLY more complex than \"drunk dude drives car.\" \n\nEven if it is a multiple offender, felony DUI, it would not linger for 4 years.", "> Same way they could take your knife without trial/warrant if they have probable cause to believe it's a murder weapon at the scene.\n\nYeah... that's probable cause. There was a murder, a crime definitely happened, and they take the device that was overwhelmingly likely used to perpetrate it. The suspect is almost certainly under arrest or being charged with a crime.\n\nIn this case of asset forfeiture, there had been no crime to tie the money to.\n\n>Same idea behind seizing a glass pipe (or arresting the owner) - even if there's no crack residue on it yet, that's very likely the intended purpose.\n\nI would oppose this for the same reasons as above. The burden of proof should lie on the justice system to prove an item was being used illicitly. Police should not have a right to take property from the population they are supposed to protect unless they have reason to believe beyond a reasonable doubt it was involved in a crime.\n\nEven if you think police should have that right, a crack pipe and cash are very different things. One has limited uses, most illicit. The other is an extremely common form of value used all over the nation/world.\n\n>Subsequently, there's nothing in the Constitution that requires \"proof beyond a reasonable doubt\" in a civil case.\n\nWhat is legal and what is ethical are two vastly different subjects. This stop was entirely legal and that's the damn problem. The Constitution was not written by a god, it's writings are not a moral absolute. It is a flawed document written by humans in the context of their time and goals and should be treated as such. I believe there is a lot of good stuff in there, but I also think much of it is flawed, and America seems to agree, given that it has been amended with time and parts have been repealed.\n\nIt's not illegal to be stupid. It's not illegal to carry cash. It should not be legal for police officers to confiscate property unless that property is already illegal or can definitely be tied to a crime.", "Yes I agree. \n\nBut I didnt see any comments that said he did get his money back and wanted to add that because it was so unjust and wrong that the system allows it.", "Not after you get past a certain amount of money.", "You do your thing, I'll do mine.", "Should I feel sorry for a lunatic who doesn't trust banks and keeps cash?\n\nSure it is legal but that money could be lost by theft, damage and any number of reasons.", "Sorry but sounds like you're very confused about exactly what RAS and PC are", "> In this case of asset forfeiture, there had been no crime to tie the money to.\n\nThere doesn't have to be an established crime. Could just be a bloody knife in the back seat. Is it from a deer? Is it ketchup? If you're sweaty/nervous, you and your car are probably going away until they can figure it out definitively.\n\n> The burden of proof should lie on the justice system to prove an item was being used illicitly.\n\nHow are they ever supposed to prove an unused crack pipe is for crack, though (or even a used one without sending it to a lab)? Or that $10M in suitcases in some Mexican-with-gang-tattoos' armored SUV is for some sort of organized crime activity? Ignoring the stupidity of the drug war in general, you're basically asking them to give up entire avenues of investigation/prosecution that are likely highly accurate, just because they occasionally snare an innocent person. So far the list of people who can legitimately carry large amounts of cash consists of \"paranoiac\" and \"professional gambler evading casino bans\".\n\nWhile they should take care to rule out people like this, and it can be/is being abused, I don't like the idea of doing away with it entirely. A good analogy would be to weed smoke. It's a heavily abused justification by cops, but are they supposed to pretend they don't see/smell billowing clouds of weed smoke from someone who was just hotboxing in their car? At a certain point if you're carrying cash beyond a certain amount you need to make more professional arrangements.\n\n> What is legal and what is ethical are two vastly different subjects.\n\nAgreed.\n\n> The Constitution was not written by a god, it's writings are not a moral absolute. It is a flawed document written by humans in the context of their time and goals and should be treated as such. I believe there is a lot of good stuff in there, but I also think much of it is flawed, and America seems to agree, given that it has been amended with time and parts have been repealed.\n\nThe Founders themselves agreed which is why they wrote in an amendment process and amended it right after ratifying it to include the Bill of Rights. There's a lot of hyperbole in this thread and so I thought you might be arguing that it was illegal/unconstitutional rather than just really unsavory.", "Reasonable Suspicion\n\nA police officer may have reasonable suspicion that a crime is being committed if based on all of the facts and circumstances of the situation, a reasonable police officer would have the same suspicion. The police officer does not need physical evidence in order to have reasonable suspicion. Instead, the presumption of reasonable suspicion is made based on the officer’s training, the circumstances of the situation, and what other officers would do in similar circumstances.\n\nIf a police officer has reasonable suspicion, he may briefly stop the person involved, but an officer may not make an arrest based on reasonable suspicion alone. For example, if a driver is driving erratically, swerving between lanes, and failing to stop for traffic signals, a police officer may have reasonable suspicion that the driver is drunk. The officer may pull the driver over, but the officer may not arrest the driver unless there is further evidence of drunk driving to establish probable cause for the arrest. If after being pulled over a driver fails a sobriety test, that may provide probable cause for an officer to make a drunk driving arrest.\n\nProbable Cause\n\nBefore the police can arrest someone or get a search warrant, they must have probable cause to make the arrest or to conduct the search.\n\nThe Fourth Amendment of the U.S Constitution references probable cause as a necessary component of a search or seizure of property and before a person is taken into police custody. Specifically, the Fourth Amendment reads:\n\nThe right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.\n\nThus, probable cause is left to the courts. The courts have established that probable cause is a higher standard than reasonable suspicion. Probable cause means that the police officer not only has a suspicion that a crime has been or is being committed, but that the police officer also has actual knowledge that the crime has been or is being committed.\n\nIn other words, there must be evidence that supports a police officer’s suspicion that a crime has been committed before he can have a search warrant issued and/or make an arrest.\n\n\nSooooooo not sure what else I can tell you. You're wrong.", "I'd say it's the opposite. The Veteran gets the limelight. \"Woah this is bad\" but the amount it happens to the common folk goes unreported exponentially. Even this will fade away into forgetful levels because it got solved. Its a semi-happy ending.", "What you copy/pasted literally supports and proves what I was saying. Again, I think you're a bit confused.", "> How are they ever supposed to prove an unused crack pipe is for crack\n\nDon't care and also not my problem. I stand by my statement that in order to confiscate property, I believe there must be a crime having been committed to tie it to.\n\n>Or that $10M in suitcases in some Mexican-with-gang-tattoos' armored SUV is for some sort of organized crime activity\n\nHo-lee-actual-fucking-shit. Get this, I believe in the right for Mexicans with tattoos to drive around with suitcases filled with 10 million in cash. It's not illegal to be Mexican, to have tattoos, or to have 10 million dollars in cash.\n\nFind that 10 million in cash during a drug bust? Take every penny. Find that 10 million after pulling Juan over for going 45 in a 30? I don't care how shifty the dude is, leave it the fuck alone.\n\n>At a certain point if you're carrying cash beyond a certain amount you need to make more professional arrangements.\n\nAnd I completely disagree. Cash. Is. Not. Illegal. What private citizens do with their money is none of the states business, no matter how stupid, paranoid, or reasonable it is.", "https://thisisreno.com/2021/12/lawsuit-filed-after-nhp-confiscates-mans-life-savings-during-traffic-stop/", "Even then for small towns that can represent a major bump, and results in those notorious 'speed trap' towns that use tickets as profits.\n\nIf it went to the state general fund that would certainly alleviate it at a local level, but then the state government would still be incentivized to keep it going. Personally I'd say all fine money or legitimately confiscations should go into a trust that is solely for mitigation. Drug treatment programs, things like that.", "Have a good life.", ">Abusing their legally allowed powers\n\nMy point is that they're not abusing anything if those powers were given to them. We should fight to change the law that makes this possible in the first place.", "So if someone is given something, they can't abuse it?", "Wait whats the catch here? Are people thinking Alec Baldwin shot that woman on purpose?", "They're legally allowed to take your money without having to justify their actions. What exactly is the abuse when they do exactly what the law says they can do? Maybe we should realise that the system we live under does NOT guarantee our rights. This isn't cops being bad. This is cops doing what the system expects them to do at our expense.", "Which is abuse? Serious how thick can you be.", "This is the way", "Un-fucking-believable in the 21st century we're still dealing with this shit.", "It's not abuse if it's used the way it's designed. Clear enough for you?", "Ow, you mean you think you have rights?", "Lmao, I didn't even notice this comment. I think it's pretty funny, the way you are so confident in your interpretation of what you've \"quoted\" from me. You genuinely think what I'm saying is partisan, don't you? It's especially funny because had you understood what I said from the beginning, you'd be singing a very different tune right now. Hence what I said in my last comment towards you.\n\nI'm under no illusion that you'll understand the point I'm making now, and I doubt you'll even look for a different interpretation of what you quoted. Mostly I'm just enjoying watching you fight the picture of me you see in the fun house mirror that is your reading comprehension.", "> Ho-lee-actual-fucking-shit. Get this, I believe in the right for Mexicans with tattoos to drive around with suitcases filled with 10 million in cash. It's not illegal to be Mexican, to have tattoos, or to have 10 million dollars in cash.\n\nNo, it's not. But everyone knows what it's for and it's a crime. Practically guaranteed. Gang tattoos are not regular tattoos. Regular people do not carry $10M around in suitcases. Don't be obtuse. By this logic a lot of murderers would go free too, because there are a number of murders where they never even find the damn body or the murder weapon. No real evidence a \"murder\" was committed except the victim was never seen again.\n\n> Find that 10 million in cash during a drug bust? \n\nIf all you have to do is not have the cash in the same location as the drugs, then the cash will never be in the same location as the drugs and cartel money will be de facto untouchable.\n\n> And I completely disagree. Cash. Is. Not. Illegal. What private citizens do with their money is none of the states business, no matter how stupid, paranoid, or reasonable it is.\n\nIt's not illegal but it's extremely suspicious in large amounts, the same way it would be suspicious if you found a bunch of individually-legal components in a car that are the exact ingredients for a bomb, with no explanation of why you have them. It is just crazy to ignore that.", "[South Dakota v. Fifteen Impounded Cats sounds like a WWE matchup but nope, civil forfeiture case.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Dakota_v._Fifteen_Impounded_Cats) \n[Then there's United States v. Approximately 64,695 Pounds of Shark Fins which is just a great title.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Approximately_64,695_Pounds_of_Shark_Fins)", "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erin_Pizzey\n\nTake a look at a woman who was a pioneer for Women's shelters that became a target of abuse when her research led her to answers some feminists didn't like. It gets really depressing. \n\nI am still a self-proclaimed feminist, but it's absurd to think the movement doesn't have problematic members. The biggest problem for feminist fixing men's issues is that our issues are back-burner Items. They will be fixed as a side-effect of gender roles rather than direct problems.\n\nAnd any movement that looks for supporting men in areas where they fall through the gap gets attacked by certain feminist groups. \n\nExtremism affects any movement, and feminism isn't safe from that.", "She took her case to the PA Supreme Court and won.\n\nhttps://www.forbes.com/sites/instituteforjustice/2017/05/30/grandmother-who-lost-her-home-because-her-son-sold-marijuana-wins-at-pennsylvania-supreme-court/?sh=4991dd982fa2", "> everyone knows... Practically guaranteed.\n\nI don't care what \"everyone knows\" and I don't care what's \"practically guaranteed\". I care what can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt.\n\nThis is exactly how it works in the European Union, so don't tell me that the law would break down without civil asset forfeiture.\n\nAn acute situation where a person is missing and presumed dead is very different from a Mexican dude \"looking sketchy\". You shouldnt be allowed to steal someone's shit because you don't like of their jib. This is literal profiling and it's fucked up.\n\n>It's not illegal but it's extremely suspicious\n\nAnd it's not illegal to be sus! It's not illegal to have stuff that individually could make a bomb! Do you have any idea how many farmers would be fucked if you could? The stuff needed to make ANFO is everywhere. Any stay at home mom with bleach and vinegar in the house can feasibly make mustard gas, but we don't prosecute them!\n\nShit dude back during prohibition literal grocery stores would sell kits containing grades, sugar, and specific instruction to very definitely NOT open the package and leave it for a week or it would turn to wine.\n\nNone of these things are illegal. I don't care if there's no explanation. Cash is legal to have, full stop! Sketchy Mexican guys are also allowed to have cash. I cannot believe it's a controversial take that unless there's has been a crime, the government should be owed to steal from you.", "> This is exactly how it works in the European Union, so don't tell me that the law would break down without civil asset forfeiture.\n\nWell, they don't have a large porous border with a major narcostate for one thing. But they certainly have trouble preventing terrorist attacks.\n\n> An acute situation where a person is missing and presumed dead is very different from a Mexican dude \"looking sketchy\". You shouldnt be allowed to steal someone's shit because you don't like of their jib. This is literal profiling and it's fucked up.\n\nMexican guy with gang tattoos carrying $10M in cash in suitcases without a good explanation. Not just a \"sketchy looking Mexican\". You're bordering on a strawman there. That kind of occurrence is 1 in a million, and such an occurrence being innocent regular Joe is probably 1 in a billion. Respecting people's rights does not require law enforcement to act like they're mentally handicapped, like they can't connect the really fucking obvious dots.\n\nAnd someone being missing/presumed dead is not very different at all. People run away and start new lives all the time. Or they go hiking and get eaten by gators. There are probably tons of plausible explanations in any such murder case. \"Presumed dead\" usually just means \"we waited for a while, and we looked around, and we couldn't find any indication of where they went, and we don't think they would leave this abruptly, and there's someone kind of suspicious who has a motive for murder, so we're presuming this person is dead\".\n\n\n> Do you have any idea how many farmers would be fucked if you could?\n\nI was specifically thinking of the OKC bombing (168 deaths). McVeigh was able to get the fertilizer from an accomplice who was living on a farm, so their large purchases didn't attract as much suspicion. The government does actually monitor who's buying what and makes sure they have a good reason for it. So if you're an Arab Muslim with no farm and you're buying large amounts of ammonium nitrate fertilizer for seemingly no reason, you're going to get flagged, and deservedly so. Because you're probably a terrorist. This is like on 9/11 saying we shouldn't have surveilled the hijackers who were taking flying lessons and indicating they didn't care to learn how to land. Not illegal, and fairly unprecedented as a method of attack. Extremely suspicious, though.\n\n> Any stay at home mom with bleach and vinegar in the house can feasibly make mustard gas, but we don't prosecute them!\n\nIt makes chlorine gas, not mustard gas. And it's dangerous if you sit around breathing it in, but it's highly irritating and people would be able to easily escape. It's not really feasible to kill people with it, otherwise we'd have seen terrorists use it by now. But if the FBI received a tip that a housewife was stocking up on industrial amounts of vinegar/bleach and some kind of dispersal system to make it more effective, and she had no good explanation for what she was going to do with it, there's a good chance they'd seize it and try to find something to charge her with.\n\nHaving these things, even inherently dangerous things like guns or knives, is not illegal. Owning them illegally or with the intent to commit illegal acts is illegal. If you have a good reason to be carrying around explosives or guns, you are allowed to. If you have a good reason to be carrying $10M in cash, you are allowed to (though as I said the current system is susceptible to abuse). But carrying $10M in cash with no way to prove it's legal income and no explanation for why you're transporting it that way is grounds enough to seize it, at least temporarily.", "Sorry to hear that. What happened?", "Was outside my hotel on the strip smoking a cig, enjoying the night breeze when a cop comes up and starts hassling me about being there to buy drugs. He asked for ID, told him I didn't need to give him any. Asks me which hotel i'm staying at, told him I didn't have to answer questions. He stepped on my foot and shoved me. When I hit the ground he dropped on top of me and punched me in ribs several times and told me to roll over and stop resisting. My face was scraped up from the sidewalk and ribs were bruised real bad. I spent the night at clark county. Got out the next day and got a lawyer. Charges were dropped, but that was it. Still cost me $1500 for the lawyer. Got beat up, lost money, spent a night in jail, all because I exercised my rights. The Lawyer said he could probably get a civil suit awarded, but I didnt feel like traveling back there again and said screw it.", "Banks have been known to send out notices that mislead customers into closing their credit cards and open new ones, saying the old ones \"aren't going to be supported\". (what they actually mean is that they will stop accepting applications for that old type of account and if you keep it there will be a grandfather clause that prevents the account from being modified further with things like credit limit increases, and they love handing those out.) This tanks people's credit scores because it's partially based on your oldest open credit card. The FDIC doesn't stop scummy business practices. It just protects your money if the bank is robbed. Not wanting to give a bank your business is entirely understandable.", "You need your fucking head caved in. \n\nYou were right about one thing tho. Cop did steal his money. \n\nThis country needs more cop funerals.", "Sounds good, but it doesn't really work that way bud. \n\nI told a cop he couldn't search my car once and the fucker took the keys right out of the ignition and opened the trunk.", "I found the passive aggressive, fat bodied, little dick white man", "Could you maybe be projecting a teeny tiny bit?", "Remember when Denny Hastert was sucking little boy dick?", "There is a reason your daughters and granddaughters are pushing out mixed grandbabies. White men just don't cut it these days.", "Lmao what are you on about\n\nI guess I found the racist", "Clutch them pearls, Karen", "Do you think we should get rid of the police force? Do you think we'd be better off without any sort of police whatsoever?", "Cops are just the guys you played high school sports against who weren't as good as your nor could they whoop you. They didn't want to work hard or go to college after graduating and most likely they had a dad or uncle on the forece. \n\nThat bage don't mean shit. Quit sucking cop dick.", "Again, projection.\n\nYou didn't answer the question.", "Enough with the cucky white guy attitude. What did I say about passive aggressiveness?", "I like how you keep on bringing race into this for absolutely no reason. How was I being passive aggressive?\n\nAnd you still didn't answer the question, which to me seems like you know your argument is stupid but you don't want to admit it.", "I never said there should be no cops. Just more cop funerals. Get it straight.", ">I never said there should be no cops.\n\nLmao maybe, just maybe, that's why I was asking. \n\n>Just more xop funerals.\n\nI feel the same way about communists/socialists so I know what you mean", "If they are giving you an option, then you can say no.\n\nThey must have had probable cause in order to do that. If not, he violated your rights and you may have grounds to sue for illegal search.", "Fair. Keeping passion in balance vs stability is the Sword of Damocles in any confederation. And the Dems are definitely a confederation." ]	4,125	videos	[deleted by user]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=futytnyfAas	/r/videos/comments/r7d8ay/thought_this_was_funny_at_047_mark_tesla_self/	[ "Looks like an awful place to try to squeeze through daily.", "Looks like it'd be fine if if weren't for all those bins in the way", "eye roll suburbanites..." ]	4	videos	Thought this was funny at 0:47 mark. Tesla self driving in alley way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbfiphDFATU	/r/videos/comments/r7g4rj/patient_at_university_of_louisville_hospital_was/	[ "Use me as a WTF button lol", "Lol now that’s how you keep on kickin", "Okay but deadass.. the tracks a banger", "yeah this is pretty damn good actually, dudes got a new fan now!", "best part is the doctor/nurse annoyed trying to get him to do/answer something", "So he's another rapper wannabe trying to demonstrate his street-cred to parlay that into a career as the next 50-Cent. That about it?", "God forbid anyone try to make the best of a bad situation. Since when is trying to be successful a bad thing?", ">Since when is trying to be successful a bad thing?\n\nA serial killer who murders dozens is successful. Is that not a bad thing?", "So wanting to be an accomplished entertainer who no longer has to rely on the proceeds of crime is the equivalent of someone who wants to murder people for their own personal satisfaction?\n\nRight here you were successful at showing everyone what a small minded, dimwitted, ill-conceived comment looks like. Congratulations, you played yourself.", "[Kurupt FM are true pioneers](https://youtu.be/Hw9Q5FcUVjY)", "What's with the four foam cups? Why not two or three?", ">o wanting to be an accomplished entertainer who no longer has to rely on the proceeds of crime is the equivalent of someone who wants to murder people for their own personal satisfaction?\n\nI didn't say that. I responded to your question.\n\n>Right here you were successful at showing everyone what a small minded, dimwitted, ill-conceived comment looks like. Congratulations, you played yourself.\n\nOr pointing out that your absolutist statement was clearly not true?", "This is the most Louisville thing to have happened since Rick’s night at Porcini’s", "Less than 4 cups?! You broke ass bitch", "Hahaha. Well it's like 1.99 for a 12 pack, why not hold all 12. Big dick energy", "Oh it's true.", "That stack of cash won't even come close to paying for the hospital bill.", "I don't know what's weaker, his lyrics or his knees", "What are they gonna do? Garnish the wages of a drug dealer? Nah, that bill is going to be passed on to everyone else.", "And yet, a successful serial killer can harm many people. Which is the point. One person's success can foster other people's failures.\n\nJust think about the thoughtlessness of recording a video in a hospital of people trying to work for example. He is making other people's days worse in order maximize his own success. Is that laudable?", "Just wait till he gets the bill for filming a music video in the hospital.", "I don't even know what to say. You win. Amazing thought person.", "So your response to someone calling out your argument is to claim you didn't even care?\n\nHaven't seen that one before. /S", "What?", "r/cringe is where this belongs", "I think he is finishing for upvotes like \"1 upvote = 1 WTF\"", "As humanity approaches the great filter reality becomes more ridiculous.\n\nj/k?", "Mate! I was hoping someone would've made that reference.\n\nBANG!", "He seems like the kind of guy that would hire Bobby Baccalieri to shoot him in the fleshy part of the thigh so he can get street cred.", "Usually you need a couple of cups to sip lean because \n lean can eat through styrofoam.", "Did you interview the staff at the E.R. and verify they were upset? They might have been into it, seems like it judging from the fact they're in the video at all. Seems like they were playing along.\n\nThis whole thread just screams \"I hate rap, I'm so deep.\"", "that wasn't calling out anything, you're being intentionally obtuse\n\nyour analogy for success not always being a good thing was a serial killer who's successful at killing\n\nbut that's being successful at something morally bad. Murder is inherently harmful to other people. Music isn't.\n\nwhich you must realize, because then you go on to say \"making other people's days worse in order maximize his own success\" which is such a weird argument, that naturally the response is just being baffled, because a) what's a little bit of inconvience compared to being able to pay your hospital bills, maybe even have an entire career? and b) nobody said that anyone was bothered. There are shots in there of a doctor (who might not even be a doctor) CLEARLY acting and a nurse (who might not even be a nurse) who's just doing her job. Don't you think if anyone was legitimately bothered, they could've done something? It's a hospital ffs...", "Preach!", "> at the E.R. and verify they were upset? They might have been into it, seems like it judging from the fact they're in the video at all\n\nWe have very different take aways from the video clearly.", ">Don't you think if anyone was legitimately bothered, they could've done something\n\nHow do we know they didn't?\n\nMy point remains that your absolutist statement was not true by a long shot.", ">How do we know they didn't?\n\nSo we should just assume that happened unless told otherwise?\n\n>My point remains that your absolutist statement was not true by a long shot.\n\nI didn't make that statement. Also it was a question. Also if you're seriously saying \"being successfull isn't good, not even by a long shot\" then sorry, but I don't understand how you don't realize that you're arguing from a bit of an irrational position", "Exactly what I was thinking..." ]	37	videos	Patient at University of Louisville Hospital was shot in a drug deal gone wrong. Decides to film a music video about it in the hospital
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/r7glzx/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/r7glzx/deleted_by_user/	[ "That's really cool! If only I had a piano to test it out on.", "Here is the link to the developer. \n\n[Magic Keys](https://dominikhackl.com/project/magic-keys/)", "Uh wow? Couldn't you learn to play like this really easily..? Holy shit?", "That's a cool tool. Though lets not forget Oculus is facebook. They want to scan and farm your bio-metrics to sell to relevant companies.", "Its sorta like learning to play guitar off of Rocksmith, or even just straight tabs. \n\nYou'll learn individual songs and by nature you'll learn some chord progressions that mix well together. If you have an ear for music you might be able to start linking some of those chords together on their own. \n\nWithout the underlying musical theory though, it'd kinda like building a house on sand. I started taking actual lessons a few years after I started messing around with guitar on my own and you end up kinda relearning some things from the ground up to get rid of bad habits. \n\nNot a bad thing at all though if you're already a student or you just wanna learn something specific. Especially if your sight reading isn't the greatest or its in some stupid key where the artist decided he liked the color black and that's all he's touching on the piano.", "This is so cool! I love the idea. Nice!!!!!!!!!", "I'm not sure though, this is a lot different from guitar tabs! I've never tried Rocksmith but taught myself guitar with tabs. Learning piano from scratch from a teacher or by learning to read music first certainly gives you a better foundation and you likely end up as a better player overall but I really would have to try this VR thing before writing it off and saying you'd have to relearn everything again... I dunno, I just really want to try it lol", "I have to completely agree here. I took two years of piano with a teacher, who only tought me how to read sheet music. It wasnt until the end of those 2 years that she gave me a pocket music dictionary, and after reading just the opening part of that little book, which basically taught you some music theory, specifically how to construct a cord, and what progressions were, that I actuallly /understood/ how to make music, and not just read it off a sheet of paper!", "Could this exist in Vive as well? do vive cameras even work like that?", "It looks like he plans on adding some other features to help with a theoretical understanding of piano playing.\n\nFrom the developers [website](https://dominikhackl.com/project/magic-keys/):\n\n>Learning notes and the piano keyboard\n\n>Simple exercises or games to recognize the note names and match them with the proper keys could increase the early-stage learning rate.\n\n>Technical exercises\n\n>A whole lot of enjoyable and still pianistically valuable exercises could be realized. By adding a level system, students would be even more aware of their progress and more likely to remain motivated.\n\n>Dictionary of chords, scales etc.\n\n>Players could look up all possible chords and scales and would be able to see them highlighted right on top of the keyboard.\n\n>Theory Lessons\n\n>With AR and a 3D notation system music theory lessons could be designed in a very visual and interactive way.", "and which tech company doesn't 😂", "The concept of it has been around for a hot minute. There's a few versions of it that come with certain types of electric pianos, ranging from the keys lighting up in time with when you're supposed to press it to projector systems that basically do this same thing but without the VR headset. \n\nI'm not saying write it off, they can be quite fun actually to mess around with and can open people up to music who might not have touched it originally. Like all things it just needs to be linked with other teaching methods I think.", "Great, now I can work in a piano bar in the metaverse.", "lol, fuck facebook. I'll learn the old fashioned way.", "Ok but now do Through The Fire and Flames /s", "Synthesia the game has been around for a while. You can definitely learn to play a song but won't help with sheet music and marginally help with music theory.", "That's a lot though compared to just starting out with a piano and a theory book or even the entire internet at your disposal. If they could create a tool to transpose music into this format you could learn any song and sort of skip music theory. I'm not sure if I like the idea as an approach to learning, it's just generally interesting to me. But you could modify it easily I think too to add a floating version of the actual music scrolling above and begin with actual lessons with narration in the back, utilizing the VR still with simple songs, reminders of hand positioning, technique, it could actually be used to teach directly rather than just for a game. At some point a musician is going to say enough is enough and just learn the thing though, I may be overthinking it!", "With that game I use a laptop with one of those flip over keyboards and just plug it into a cheaper piano with weighted keys. When I learned even an intermediate song is was pretty quick, generally about a phrase a day. Worked very well", "Wonder why it's in B flat and not F", "This is a shitty way to learn to play. Even if you are just practicing you aren't learning form or theory.", "In my experience people who learn this way hit a wall very fast and lose interest in playing. You aren't learning theory and most of all your form is bad. Bad form leads to injuries. Once you get something close to carpal tunnel playing piano you may not go back.", "Let people enjoy it for the fun of it. They might get an interest in learning HOW to actually play. I’m sure rock band and guitar hero opened the doors for people wanting to pick up an instrument. \n\nIt’s a good gateway. There is no need for a pessimistic attitude towards it. Not to mention that there are some people that might learn differently.", "Create an easy throw away facebook account to use and never download anything onto the Oculus itself. I only use Steam VR and 3rd party software. The only thing I've had to download onto the Oculus is Virtual Desktop, from there on everything is via PC and there's no really information they're going to get from here that hasn't been farmed by Reddit or Youtube already.", "My opinion based on my experience stops no one from doing anything. It's a shitty way to learn to play. It's not pessimism, it's a warning. As a piano player the thing that breaks my heart are all the pianos in the world just sitting there with no one playing them. The synesthesia approach contributes to that. \n\nI don't know a single person who picked up a guitar after playing guitar hero. It does the opposite. It gives you the feeling of being an accomplished player with none of the skills required to get you there.", "This has always been the sort of thing I think AR will be immensely popular for. A bigger more advanced development team could take this concept really far. Guided lessons that actually can assess your technique as well because it can see and measure your hand positioning. \n\nThe smartphone isn't going anywhere for a long time, but this is the kind of utility that AR will excel at and be used for.", "This is possibly the best use-case for AR I've seen.", "As they should…", "That is literally the ideal. You’re just mad these people didn’t waste time like you or need superficial hardship to feel accomplished", "Every single person I know who plays guitar, bass, or drums were all big Guitar Hero and Rockband fans. Your personal experience isn't the only one in the world. How can you hate on giving people easier access to learning music? For many people learning the old fashioned way is overwhelming to consider, but if this gets them a foot in the door then isn't that a positive?", "Stating my personal experience isn't hating on anything. Relax.", "The ideal would be learning the fundamentals of playing at a young age so that it's easier when you get older. Calm down.", "Does that work? I remember facebook hunting down and deleting throwaway accounts. People could even lose their bought content. And yeah, other companies do it, but Facebook has been especially egregious. The Facebook Papers are filled with evilness.", "AFAIK that is still a risk.\n\nIn my case, I created a new account using my real name, but then locked down all privacy settings so that no one can see anything, and I never use it. This way if there is ever an issue, I can submit my ID and get it back. I've personally had no issues using an account like this.", "Looks impressive, but this dude for sure already knows how to play this song", "This looks fake. The lack of a POV perspective is suspicious.", "Maybe not fake, but if you have a quest 2 and enable pass through, you will get an idea if the image quality. It's a noisey low resolution image and it would actually be hard to distinguish between different keys", "It could have, if they had the same programming talent and effort and money poured down the drain as facebook. But more realistically, the vive camera is a single instead of dual, and like 360p so even if coded up it wouldn't work or look the best\n\nIf you wanna try to DIY it, there's overlay apps like xsoverlay/reality blender which might let you chroma key and line things up correctly with a pc piano midi app/game, but at that point it might be more trouble than it's worth", "Fuck me that is cool as shit. More of this and less VR porn pls", "You no longer need a Facebook account as of last month.", "There are some platforms that allow you to overlay a stationary video of you with the VR environment for streaming, which is what you are seeing. (We see this with most 3rd-party Beat Saber views). \n\nCheck out Segmentive Keying.", "The vast majority of people who've played a piano lose interest in playing, and they didn't need this to do it.", "Tbh if you wanted that, you could just take a tablet/phone and put on one of those YouTube videos", "lol, the downvotes for this.", "As someone who tried to learn the exact same song for quite a while by myself, no you cannot.", "Cas and Chary have a couple of good videos from this, and they show their perspective too. They're a YouTube couple that make VR videos. One of them are new to piano and one is good so you get both sides.\n\nHere's the latest updated piano one\n\nhttps://youtu.be/jvpfeJbwHr0", "Think the issue for many is FB having a link to your real identity even if you never use it and lets face it they still build a profile somehow vs having a FB acct for Amanda Huggenkiss so all your activity is still tied to a fake name. \n \nPersonally I just shitpost", "Ok i get it now.", "[7 seconds of googlin said u dum](https://youtu.be/R5tgrBHklxQ)", "I could be wrong but I thought they only announced that this would be changing, but didn’t actually implement it yet. The full Facebook separation should be live sometime next year.", "It’s the one actual shortcoming of the Quest 2, the rest of the device is great, but augmented/mixed reality is essentially impossible with the low quality inside-out tracking cameras. It’s a miracle that they’re even releasing an API for those crappy cameras in the first place, but I’m guessing it’s mostly so developers can write the basis for their mixed reality apps before the next generation headset arrives.", "I'm well aware of that, I'm pointing out that the actual view from the headset is missing, that's the point.", "No, you can now login in with an Oculus account.", "Ah ok good to know", "> This is a shitty way to learn to play\n\nThat's some hating right there.", "Sorry buddy but it's a shitty way to learn. That's not hate, that's a fact. You are limiting yourself out of the gate. Playing the piano is not like typing.", "No, that's a blanket statement that might not even be relevant. This person looks like their gaming to me, not trying to learn piano... I wouldn't watch a video of someone placing a racing simulator and go \"that's a shitty way to learn to drive.\"", "Playing a racing simulator is a shitty way to learn to drive. You need to calm down, you have a shitty attitude.", "Yeah it's a ridiculous thing to say. They're obviously not trying to learn to drive, they're playing a game. I have a shitty attitude? I don't care if that's bait, it's so ironic it made me laugh." ]	58	videos	[deleted by user]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKSYxeGFfFI	/r/videos/comments/r7gy6s/road_trip_in_simcity_4/	[ "Impressive build", "At [19:45](https://youtu.be/XKSYxeGFfFI?t=1183) a car swerves off the road and hits a pole.", "Population -3", "I. Love Sim City 4. Should've used the actual soundtrack on this video.", "How could you? Instant copy right strike.", "But it would be really cool.\n\nAlso looking at search results on youtube, there's a ton of uploads for the soundtrack that obviously haven't been taken down.", "I'm pretty sure a copy right strike just means any money you would've made off the video goes to the copy right holder. So the video stays up.", "Yeah they do various things like warn you, mute the video, send money to the rights holder, or take down your video. Im sure there are more.", "But above you posted how they will be taken down. \n\n\n\\> obviously haven't been taken down", "Because the player vehicle rear ended it!" ]	10	videos	Road Trip in SimCity 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojpGFtPK1X0	/r/videos/comments/r7h4uj/the_struggle_to_succeed_a_mountain_biker_tries_to/	[ "BCpov video where he tries a new trail but a particular jump gives him a lot of trouble. The final 5 minutes are some of the best-edited video I have ever seen and his struggle to succeed is something that we can all connect with regardless of what we are striving for.\n\nHis emotions as he experiences this journey are absolutely intense and extremely personal but yet something we can ALL connect with.", "For someone hurling themselves off 20-foot jumps, the audio quality is fantastic. well done", "Wow! That was a great video - very well made and it hit me emotionally. So refreshing to see that level of humility and internal dialogue as he works himself through the challenge.", "“Just send it pussy “ only advice I got :/", "You may want to spend a little time self-reflecting if this is how this video makes you feel.\n\nNothing in this video needed to be put into a context of \"manliness\" or comparing peoples' ages and abilities. It might be worthwhile to think about why you see it like that.", "I agreed with you when I was watching the video. It's a bit over the top and for the first 10 minutes I was just kind of thinking this dude is a bit of a pussy and she's kicking his ass.\n\nBut then I started rooting for the guy. In my prime, I would have just hit that full speed from the top down. Now that i'm older, getting hurt sucks a lot more and it's a lot easier. I can empathize with him getting spooked.\n\nHis video showed him being sensitive and insecure which is something you don't normally see and it's kind of brave of him to open himself up like that so I respect him for that.\n\nWhen he was doing his final run, I said 'fuck' at the exact same time as him because I could feel his frustration and when he cleared it, I was happy for him.\n\nShe cleared that jump a dozen times before he got it. For him it was just a mental block hanging him up that was his biggest challenge.\n\nThis is a good video. There's a lot to learn from it.", "Full send to the end!", "What is wrong with you rofl. I suggest you reassess your whole life view.", "Yes, really loved it. Human indeed. \n\nI grew up snowboarding and that feeling he had is so relatable. Standing over a snowy cliff trying to find the courage when all the adrenaline your body can produce is trying to tell you not to do it.", "I really like skateboarding videos for the same reason. They always show the dozens of failures, sometimes of days, weeks, or months of failures before landing a massive trick on a halfpipe, or nailing a grind down a stupid long set of stairs. Over and over and over and over", "Ah man… once its gets in your head, it’s hard to get over it.\n\nI have trouble on some of the dumbest features once I start building a wall in my mind.", "So weird... I thought it was Skills With Phil from the voice. \n\n\nMaybe it's a MTBer thing.", "What bike should i buy if i want to get into this? Would $3k get me bike that lasts a decade?", "Depends if you want a hard trail or full suspension. Either way look into used bikes. Even if the bike is 5-10 years old it will be fine for a beginner. If it's something you enjoy then you can move into newer bikes with updated geometry.", "Heart disease, obesity, and diabetes resulting from sedentary lifestyles cost the taxpayer orders of magnitude more than fit, active people occasionally breaking a bone.", "There are things you can do on a full sus that are either much easier than, or impossible on a hardtail.\n\nSomething to keep in mind.", "As someone who has ridden one of these the first time a few weeks ago, these look sooooo much easier on video. But when you actually fly through the air you shit your pants.", "Pretty sure this is not suitable for jump tracks at all.", "Thank you for sharing it here 🙂", "Gladly. I live vicariously through videos from you, Yuka, Skills with Phil, Jordan Boostmaster, Berm Peak, and a few others. I used to love riding my bike when I was younger and simply exploring. Unfortunately, I ended up diagnosed with a form of cancer that has side effects that caused me to have to stop riding for several reasons. I am somewhat physically limited these days and must keep stress minimal. \n\nSo I use fun videos, whether simply exploration or point of view, from YouTubers like yourself and the others above, to experience that world vicariously. With a large screen and HD or 4k it's almost like being there and it's fun to see the reactions of you and the others as they experience that sort of world.\n\nThis particular video struck home because it reminded me of the emotions of learning, challenging, and conquering something, and the raw emotions were really immersive and touching. \n\nIncredibly well-crafted video. Particularly towards the end. Thanks for sharing your (and Yuka's) life and journey.", "Jesus, toxic masculinity really was on sale at your local mall today, wasn't it?", "what’s the difference Between hard trail and suspension?", "Let Google be your friend. You will get way more information from there than from me." ]	23	videos	The struggle to succeed - A mountain biker tries to conquer his fear of a jump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPukuYb9xWw	/r/videos/comments/r7hnql/ameca_humanoid_robot_ai_platform_irobot_irl/	[ "I don’t like it.", "Hey,\n\n&#x200B;\n\nHEY!\n\n&#x200B;\n\n(points)\n\n&#x200B;\n\nMY EYES ARE UP HERE, ROBOT!", "Not ai, just a pre programmed routine." ]	3	videos	Ameca Humanoid Robot AI Platform {I,Robot IRL}
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OVW4F8Qeus	/r/videos/comments/r7i2z0/gym_douche_gets_angry_at_teen_for_walking_in/	[ "I dont think you understand the concept of anger.", "That was more like “irritated” than angry.", "What a douche nozzle", "That wasn't at all what I expected", "Wow so intimidating with his elbow wraps and skinny wrists. I'm literally shaking lol", "I can understand, he’s too weak to do a second take for his 2 followers.", "Okay how about irritated or annoyed?", "Exactly", "Dude just scoffs and does the \"can you believe this shit\" shrug. Maybe a bit annoyed", "Why does douchey worry at all, not like it’s his private gym. Any reaction douchey had is an over reaction.", "Yep. The dude stepped into the shot for 1 rep, he got the whole rest of his set on camera so idk what the big deal is. And douche boy's roided out friend in the comments section on IG wanted him to fight the kid who stepped into the shot", "Dude, stop being so incredibly angry about this. You’re out of control.", "I'd say \"mildly irritated.\" I get more irritated than that when someone doesn't signal, and that shit happens all the time.", "He just gets annoyed. hes cool. He can be personally annoyed but recognizes he has no real place to be. \n\nMuch more to be angry about. \n\nHow about the douche that puts his shit on a sole station and then goes and does other stations. \n\nBusy gym. \n\nDoes it all the time.\n\nI waited for about 10 minutes. No sign of him. So I start using the station. When Im almost done he shows up and says yea Ill work in with you. \n\nNo. Im almost done. Im in my last set. \n\nor the douche that sits on a bench press and stares at his phone. Slow time? Fine.\n\nBusy with no other stations open? wtf", "He might be a lot of things but weak isn’t one of them. At least not compared to most people.", "A bit cunty." ]	15	videos	Gym Douche gets angry at teen for walking in front of camera
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyqFV3Z9QgQ	/r/videos/comments/r7irf7/david_mitchell_on_every_panel_show/	[ "That's not Numberwang.", "Loved the Jimmy Carr laugh in the middle lmao.", "Heh hah hah ha haaaaaaaaa", "There's only three things i know about British TV. Monty Python, Red Dwarf, And Jimmy Carr's laugh for some reason.", "I counted eight laughs. That's numberwang!", "That's some good David Mitchell. My BBC spirit animal.", "Absolutely nailed it", "Hauntingly accurate", "Fuckin spot on", "I don’t think this guy dislikes David Mitchell. One can tease something and still appreciate it.", "Its like a balloon getting deflated by a toddler.", "Binged all seasons of WILTY impatiently waiting for 15 and this makes it harder", "Godamn, that was well done.", "Jimmy Carr reminds me of Seth Rogan, in that they both have a genuine laugh that sounds badly forced.", "One of the greats.", "Wangernumb", "sitinthebackofacar", "r/MitchellAndWebb", "This is so ridiculously accurate", "I liked him in Peep Show but he basically just continued playing that character in real life and it's just a bit too much. \nI know us Brits are a cynical bunch, but there's reasonable limits David!", "You say that but he performed British comedy too as mockery and sarcasm are big things in comedy here", "It’s like an old turtle having an orgasm.", "I love this & I love David Mitchell", "I thought I did a passable David Mitchell impression. Then I watched this and realize I have a lot more work to do,", "Jimmy's isn't genuine though. It's deliberate. Like a trademark. He's \"the guy with the laugh\". You can hear him genuinely laugh sometimes, but he's pretty much always doing that on purpose.", "British Born Chinese?", "all right, you've talked me into it. binge commencing!", "From what I gathered, there's like seventy three panel shows with people I have no clue who they are, and half the time can't understand them. \n\nBut there's always a dude with long hair and jewelry who is very brooding. And a black guy that never talks. \n\nOh!! And that other long haired dude with the rings who likes to say big words a bit too much.", "I can't tell if this is supposed to be a piss take or an audition to write for david mitchell", "Guess i dont need to watch big fat quiz at the end of this month. I’ve seen the whole bit just now", "I remember when he changed to this laugh.", "Let's rotate the board!", "Yes he had a bit about it on a comedy special, and had spent the first 20 mins prior to that bit, doing the laugh", "The laugh track volume wasn’t slammed up to 11 and then back to 0 half a second after the person started talking again.", "Yeah. Frankly, I don’t even see this as a form of criticism. At most, this is just pointing out that a comedian has a style by trying to reproduce that style. You don’t exactly get to be a well known comedian without having a style of comedy that people seek you out for. If anything, this video is just saying “David Mitchell is a successful comedian, and this is a joke he might say.” If you like it, great, if not, well there’s other channels on the tele, aren’t there?", "Man's learning how to do the mating call to catch Victoria Coren.\n\nVery clever.", "Not a bad sound alike but the content and frustration falls short of the miracle of the british god that is David Mitchell", "Four ~~naans~~ stars", "this except no canned laughter and funnier because he's mostly not kidding.\n\ndavid mitchell is great on panels and hes gold with lee mack for sure. love the dry almost disdainful tone he can have lol", "Brits like their long hair don’t they", "david mitchell rocks. peep show best show of all time", "I dont really get the appeal everyone seems to be desperately trying to come up with something thats even slightly witty. Seriously theres a desperation in the faces of the panelists like they really need an applause no matter what they said.", " Ni hao", "Red Dwarf was so good", "The best you could do during an audition to write for David Mitchell is probably taking the piss.", "I'm guessing the canned laughter is just meant to represent audience laughter, I think the guy might have struggled to replicate a live studio audience laughing", "He probably needs a body double due to the swaths of assassin's sent after him", "Four stars, NIKK-C? Four!? That's insane.", "They are still making new episodes", "Then he needs to work on his material. \n/s", "Just taking a guess but I bet Mitchell would find this funny rather than insulting.", "Accurate", "Oh wow. Enjoy that little journey.", "Is he a baddie?", "Demonstrably", "Yeah, but Noel Fielding and Russell Brand are SUPER entertaining.", "Ah, I'm being silly. I like them both. Brand could pump his breaks imo with his thesaurus masterbation.", "I think he uses it intentionally to keep his audience off guard. Throw some big words at them, so it takes a bit more time to process, thus giving him the time to speak a bit more uninterrupted.", "Huh, I can see that.", "Nah. \n\nBritish comedy is more funny than this guy. \n\nA lot of people can do impressions of dave chapell, norm macdonald and bill burr. But they are not as funny as them. \n\nSame with this dude. He is extremely impressive and his impressions are funny but he doesn't evicerate anything.", "noel felding\n\nrichard ayoade\n\nrussell brand", "The Jimmy Carr laugh fuckin floored me.", "Force any behaviour hard enough initially and it won't be long before it becomes a \"genuine\" expression.", "ah ah ah ah ah ^ahhhhh", "Yours is a much better onomatopoeia than mine.", "This is spot on", "But he married Victoria Coren so all is forgiven.", "He stands by what he says. \"Was\" good.", "Jimmy's laugh sounds like an acknowledgment of legitimate humor from analysis", "Ewwwwe no black cock is so gross.\n\nIs that reaction you were looking for? \n\nRacist.", "Noel Fielding used to share a flat with Jimmy Carr. He said that the laugh is a recent thing. According to Fielding, Carr didn't laugh like that until he got on TV.", "We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful what we pretend to be.", "It always feels weird to make a sketch about a comedian - he's already doing a bit..", "You need to look up Mr Bean, and Blackadder. Same main actor (Rowan Attkinson), two majorly different comedic roles.", "\nI recommend this [\"panel show\" panel show](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2z-AdzgKjY). If you know British TV it's really hilarious.", "Even just blackadder S1 vs S4", "Back to earth is trash. The rest of the new stuff is good. Back to proper RD", "Lol that was absolutely spot on. Noel Fielding looking like a gay Gothic willy Wonka as usual. \n\nNeeded less Mitchell and more Brand", "S1 is basically a different show; the character dynamics were entirely different, it was filmed on large sets with full casts and extras, Ben Elton wasn't writing. Thank god they were given another chance, I think the BBC basically thought S1 was an expensive failure. \n\n\nJohn Lloyd said, in a R4 show I listened to recently (paraphrasing): \"There were so many times where you could see in S1 the sign saying 'to the joke', but then the show never followed it.\"", "Let's ROTATE THE BOARRRRRD", "I like the writing of the few bits i saw from that show. But i can't stand the point of view shooting. It's like visual nails on chalk board", "Is Richard Ayoade the black guy who never talks?", "No problem - I think you just needed a bit more “effeminate vampire” in there" ]	82	videos	David Mitchell on every panel show
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/r7jd55/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/r7jd55/deleted_by_user/	[ "Hallelujah! HOLY SHIT, where's the Tylenol?", "One of the best lines ever delivered, watching it now…fucking adore this movie.", "More relevant than ever", "I love this movie. I use the \"That's the gift that keeps on giving the whole year.\" line all the time, my wife hates it.", "I saw this movie at the Mesa Theater in Costa Mesa California when it first came out . Great movie" ]	5	videos	[deleted by user]
https://youtube.com/watch?v=qNzNeGw8Fmo&feature=share	/r/videos/comments/r7jhn6/cobras_panthers_snl/	[ "Love this sketch!", "RIP Norm", "I love how 90% of the characters Norm played on snl were just himself.", "Kind of like Bowen Yang or Pete Davidson. Except, you know, actually funny", "One of the Kids in the Hall was in that for some reason", "Ah yes, SNL alum Robert Downey Jr. - that show really launched his career and he owes everything to classic sketches like \"the hand-fart movie reviewers\". Has RDJ made more money or Sandler? /s\n\nEdit: added a /s because I forgot about Poe's Law", "I saw that too! Maybe he was a writer on SNL for sometime? They sometimes invite writers into the sketches if they need extra people", "Dude RDJ has been in movies since he was a teenager. He doesn't owe everything to SNL he was just destined to be a great actor because everyone already knew he was one. Don't believe me watch a movie of his called Less Than Zero!", "I love how this one skit basically sums up the comedy genius of Norm McDonald.", "Mark McKinney was a cast member for a few seasons.", "Oh dang! I wish I'd watched it more back then lol", "I know, I added a \"/s\".", "Would be better if Keenan Thompson is in the sketch grinning and making wide eyes at the camera", "Wish I could upvote your comment more. Because you are spot-on. \n\n\nDamn. Norm!", "Pete Davidson is hilarious.", "Interesting enough, apparently he was on SNL before he did Kids in the Hall - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_McKinney\n\nHe joined after the group broke up hence the reason why Dave Foley was on Newsradio while Scott Thompson went on Larry Sanders.", "[Mark McKinney](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_McKinney) \n \n >Mark Douglas Brown McKinney (born June 26, 1959) is a Canadian actor and comedian. He is best known for his work in the NBC TV Series Superstore and the sketch comedy troupe The Kids in the Hall, which includes starring in the 1989 to 1995 TV series The Kids in the Hall and 1996 feature film Brain Candy. He was a cast member on Saturday Night Live from 1995 to 1997; and from 2003 to 2006, he co-created, wrote and starred in the series Slings & Arrows and he also appeared as Tom in FXX's Man Seeking Woman.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( \| )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( \| )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( \| )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove \| v1.5)", "Hate to break it to you but norm outside of weekend update never was considered the funniest or most talented. He very much was the Pete Davidson of his day.", "\"Ohhhhh nooo that's not good\" lol\n\nI love Norm", "I'm actually looking forward to seeing Spielberg's new \"West Side Story\".", "And Kevin...\n\nwell we love Kevin.", "When I heard he was doing it, this sketch was the first thing I thought of", "is that.... anthony cuomo???", "Well that’s just, like…you know…your opinion, man.", "I miss this era of SNL a lot", "Ahh my bad...", "It's my fault, I keep thinking sarcasm will come through if I'm ridiculous enough, but like I said in my edit Poe's Law states:\n\n> without a clear indicator of the author's intent, every parody of extreme views can be mistaken by some readers for a sincere expression of the views being parodied.", "Yes but unfortunately him and Bruce didn't do a lot after the break up.", "That.... was Tim Meadows", "What’s up with that?", "Do usually find SNL funny but I'm guessing this was like the golden era with Norm running it. Would be interested to see if I could watch all ones from his time on it?", "Norm is considered by many one of the greatest in comedy.", "I’m not hating on Norm. I’m defending Pete. Norm wasn’t alway a legend. There were a lot of other comedians on that cast that were considered funnier. Just like Pete is now.", " Pete isn\\`t considered to be among the greatest. Norm Is.\n\nAnd his funniest bits are outside SNL.", "Pete is 24. \n\n24 \n\nNorm died at like 65.\n\nI’m saying when norm was 24 he was very much like Pete. For fucks sake is this that hard?", "You are the one comparing and later pointing out the age difference therefore we shouldnt compare?\n\nI dont get you", "I’m saying norm was not a legend at 24. His style is much like Pete. Am I saying Pete will be the legend norm is? Probably not but they are a lot more similar at those stages in their career then you think" ]	38	videos	Cobras & Panthers - SNL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkJLTGweKl0	/r/videos/comments/r7jhyt/rockys_speech_to_his_adult_son_who_blamed_him_for/	[ "This movie has several solid moments like this. \n\nI think of this scene often. \n\nMy parents are about his age and grew up in the same time in Philadelphia. They way they speak and communicate is very similar to the Rocky character. \n\nThis mentality and way of looking at life is part of me now. \n\nGreat clip.", "High effort post.", "Why the fuck are the L's replaced with I's?", "I love the bit at the old ice rink where Paulie opens up about how he treated Adrian. 😭", "Please Dad, no more boxing analogies!", "[Here's someone quoting that as he is forced to exit a reality TV show](https://youtu.be/X16G2hsVI9w).", "Someone put this speech into a mash up years ago. I had it on my play list but it got removed. Wish I could remember it.", "I wish I grew up with a father :/", "That comment is like a left jab into my heart, son. You’re knocking out my love but I will fight back until the final bell", "Bryan Kearney (2013?) yearmix represent.", "Did I just watch a man die?" ]	12	videos	Rocky’s speech to his adult son who blamed him for his life gets me every time
https://youtu.be/cMh6UjbjgRs	/r/videos/comments/r7k1h8/jim_carrey_lipsynching_welcome_to_the_jungle_in/	[ "Why do I not remember any of this? Liam Neeson too.", "I used to like Jim Carrey til I found out he's an anti vaxxer", "Loved this movie as a kid.", "No you didn’t. \n\nYou’ve probably seen maybe a few of his movies once. Anyone who really admired him would look past their faults because you are truly a fan or fanatic.\n\nWhat you really are is someone on the internet who wanted to try and get point for some stupid hot take about a popular comedian.\n\nAlso… he made these movies and shows 20 years ago feel free to enjoy them.", "Stop worshiping celebrities", "You leave me and my sexual fantasies out of this.", "Hey if your fetish is getting railed by JC dressed as the Grinch I'm not going to judge.", "I don't need someone to talk for me", "Wait, I thought he was just pussy whipped on Jenny McCarthy and went along with her shenanigans." ]	9	videos	Jim Carrey lip-synching Welcome to the Jungle in The Dead Pool is amazingly wild.
https://youtu.be/qzEoBrr9gRA	/r/videos/comments/r7k2oo/new_covid_variant_south_park/	[ "We’re all stuck in South Park", "It's a shame stupid people are so susceptible to fear.", "These guys will never fail to make me laugh.\n\nToo bad they're on Paramount+", "So what is the order of shows here for season 24?", "Signed up for a trial to watch the special. They make you select 3 shows you like (on their service) so it can make you recommendations. \n\nI sat there for 30 minutes scrolling up and down before I settled and clicked random shows because they're mostly bleh.", "Covid Delta Plus Rewards Program variant lmao", "Our own Alexa is going to love this! \n“Alexa, don’t listen to this”\n“Alexa, stop!!! I can’t hear the fricking TV!”", "For that $900M check, I don't blame them at all. I'll just find the episodes elsewhere and still enjoy them.", "I have to have it for soccer and I have to say other than Nickelodeon for my kids it's pretty bare.", "this was a special. according to.... uhhh.... the software I had to use to ~~download~~ watch the episode. and it's like the 34th special or something!", "Wait what did I miss? Why are the kids all grown up?", "Yea, I’m disappointed it’s not on HBO Max with all of the other episodes.", "its 'post-covid', as if things took decades to get back to normal. sure feels as if it may go that way.", "Law from one piece be like", "This is from a special they did for Paramount+. They've got more coming on there, and presumably they'll all be with them grown up.", "You know you can say fuck Joe Biden you cowardly insecure bellend", "I want to watch this but I’ll be damned if I’m gonna get paramount plus just to do it. Was the Delta plus rewards thing a dig at paramount plus type streaming channels?", "Alright, should we start a betting pool?\n\nDid Cartman dedicate 30 years of his life to trolling Kyle by converting to Judaism, marrying a Jewish woman, and fathering two Jewish children or not?", "The Alexa bits had my sides hurting from laughing so much", "I can’t wait to see whole episode. Will probably land about 2024 in NZ :(", "Wait... is this a one off thing for the episode or did they legit do a time jump?\n\nI haven't watched South Park since Chef and Tom Cruise were a big deal.", "When I saw the episode, that's what I think it actually is hahaha", "Anyone else feel like this special was pretty bad? I was genuinely bored for the first half of it.", "Oh he most certainly did", "See all the downvotes?\n\nYou're the stupid people.", "3", "Yes. A running gag in this new special is everything is called \"so-and-so plus\". Old folks homes are called something \"plus\". I can't remember specifically, but Stan and Kyle meet in a restaurant that's basically \"Denny's and Applebee's plus\". Everything is \"plus\".\n\nThe word \"plus\" now has no meaning and you're breathing manually.", "Yup.", "I thought so until the end of the episode. When he picked up his kids and betrayed Kyle and the others I think it's because he really turned his shit around.\n\nMaybe he intended to troll Kyle at first but finding a loving family changed him for real.", "Who knows but it's probably just a spin off. I think paramount paid for some specials from South park but they also renewed for a couple more seasons.", "Woosh", "First time I ever physically muted the microphone on my Alexa.\n\nThis episode was a nightmare if you have an Alexa in the room lol.", "Yarr", "This episode fucked up my sleep the other night. I passed out watching the show and my Alexa woke me up way earlier than I was hoping and I had no idea why. \n\n\n\n\nThat night I finished the episode and realized there's a part where they say \"Alexa, set an alarm for 7am\" or some shit rofl. Pretty sure they address Alexa so many times just to fuck with people x)", "Every other show I’ve seen that’s made references to Covid has been so awkward, forced, and just felt so irrelevant. But this was awesome.", "They offer a month free atm", "Been watching this show for 20 years. There’s no doubt it my mind lol", "Absolutely not its a face he's putting on for his kids. He cant let his 30 year troll go to waste by going to the past", "I'm confused. Is there going to be a second part to this or...?", "So are all future episodes going here? or just this special?", "Bro are you afraid of the vaccine? The one safely administered to the largest control group ever? It's ok if you are, but you don't need to be afraid.", "Dude, this episode made Alexa go nuts, I'm still trying to convince it that I don't need my car started, I don't want to wake up at 7:00 a.m. and the bris is 9:00 a.m. not 8:00 a.m. - Jesus.", "ARGHHHHH! SHIVER ME TIMBERS! \n\n( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)", "( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) \n\nSail the high seas my laddy", "Plex and tvdb?", "Thank god for being able to sale the 7 seas.", "Huh, sounds like a porn site lol", "Pirates will always win", "At first I assumed that was the case but as it went on I started to think it was legit but Kyle's distrust is gonna bring it back. At the very least because of Kyle there will be another generation of Cartmans.", "atm?\n\nI guess ass to mouth describes paramount plus pretty well but it's still a strange thing to say.", "Not everybody who is critical of the current handling of the pandemic and the fearmongering coverage by the media is an antivaxxer. There are plenty of people, me included, who are double or by now tripple vaccinated and have followed every social distancing guideline that are sick and fucking tired of being locked up and lied to every step of the way", "Edit", "I like to think he married someone as sadistic as him and he convinced her to go along and pretend to be Jewish around Kyle to fuck with him.", "Well it's not a one-off because there will be at least a second part.", "ReAlly find it haRd to Believe you'd Give up so easily . ToOk you for a real fan.", "This is Hong Kong", "Haha, this for some reason comes across in the most tantalising voice possible. Love it", "Simply said, we don't know yet. This special ended on a cliffhanger with a second part to come and it does involve time travel, so it's possible that they'll just reset it back to normal at the end of it. \n\nThere's also a theory that they use this to split off the specials from the TV show, as both have more upcoming, and we'll have a split timeline. \n\nOr they just continue like this. As I said, we don't know.", "I'm very sorry to tell you, but you were in a coma.. for 30 years", "no lol its saying were gonna be 100 years from now still making up new strains to freak out about.", "Why take it tho? Everything is fine in my book.", "The reason is the face", "He's going to try to sabotage going to the past with Kenny's tech. I'm assuming that's going to be the key to part 2.", "its the future", "Are all seasons on there? I'm behind like 4 seasons so I might get it for a month or two to binge.", "Who lied to you? Who told you that this would all blow over soon?", "This special was really funny. I generally like South Park, but there have been some pretty crappy episodes/seasons. This was gold.", "Who is locking up who? It confuses me when people say that like it’s still a thing. That shit ended like a year and a half ago after only like two months of things sort of being locked down, kinda. You can do anything you want again. I left my job at the Vegas strip to get a lap dance from a stripper and then followed her to a bar to drink, gamble, and do cocaine until 7am the other week. You can fly here tomorrow and also do cocaine with a stripper until 7am if you have the funds… maybe see a Raiders game. \n\nEverything is open and no other lockdowns are going to ever happen again unless people start puking up their organs or something.", "These specials specifically are on Paramount+, pretty sure normal episodes will be as they are currently", "what a weird thing to call someone out on..", "Sick browser recommendation. Free popup blocking", "As you know here in the future Denny's acquired Applebee's so it's actually:\n\nDenny's Applebee's Max", "Afraid? Lmao. You get your 4th shot yet? Omicron is gonna get you if you don't get it!", "People who think for themselves don't care what stupid people think. Now get back to praying at the church of Fuaci.", "They got some of those old 'Skinemax' soft core porn videos on there but it's my favorite of the free streaming sites. USTV247.tv is another one I use to stream tv channels.", "Arr Matey thar be ways", "The words \"Epic\" and \"Awesome\" have no power either.", "They will leave it open to troll everyone. At least I would.", "Not sure if you are being sarcastic, but the most recent example is that her in germany for months and months every single politician claimed general vaccine mandates would never be a thing and accused those who said this would eventually be the case of being conspiracy theorist, right-wingers and spreading misinformation.\nToday? Well most major politicians and health officials are for a mandate and it will likely be in place soon.", "When south park turned too much about current events it dropped in value. Although that happened quite a while ago. \n\nThis feels somehow about the characters and the south park as a whole again. So i dig it.", "Leave him alone. He can't take it because of his shellfish allergy", "LOL just get vaccinated, at this point it is one of safest vaccines ever produced. Then you won't give a shit about mandates. But in actual fact you are an anti-vaxxer, for political reasons, because you've been convinced by the weakest of arguments that you are experiencing \"tyranny\". It's not a good look, and history will judge you accordingly.", "Illiterate retard lmao. I'm vaccinated and even boostered by now. I encourage everybody to do the same. I don't even oppose vaccine mandates. My point is my government is lying to our people over and over again. This is not normal and not okay. \n\n>Just do what the government tells you to do and then the authoritarian measures won't be an issue!\n\nStop being such a reactionary idiot.", "LOL K", "it never gets old right lol", "har fiddle-dee-dee", "So brave", "Lol the point of the vaccine is to alleviate the symptoms so you don’t end up dead, not to stop you from catching it dumbass", "Better get that booster than!! And hurry, the omnicron is coming!!!", "Already got it, thanks", "So woke.", "So edgy", "Biden said \"if you get the vaccine you won't catch the virus\" Fuaci said TWO WEEKS to flatten the curb. That was almost 2 years ago. Ffs.", "Take your meds, boomer.", "Its just a spoof of the movie It Chapter 2, where it shows them as adults in the second part.", "This special was so fucking good", "Now THIS is the real Cartman move lmao.", "Didn’t they imply that being around Kyle is what makes Cartman behave like he does normally? As his normally lovely kids start picking up the traits he had as a kid after being around Kyle for a while.", "Sounds more like a credit card program joke than a streaming service joke.", "what happened to them being on HBO? I watched the last special on HBOmax", "It's so completely disingenuous and bad faith to say \"Fauci told us 2 weeks and that was a lie cause there's still a pandemic\". No one has ever said this pandemic would be over in 2 weeks and it's obviously an ever changing situation. You're just saying these things to what, score political points? It's so asinine. Fucking Trump said one day it'll just disappear like a miracle. That was a lie too but I notice you antivaxxers never bring up that particular lie. Get fucking real.", "I'm just excited to see Professor CHAOS!", "I'm not an anti-vaxxer. And why would I quote anything fro the moron Trump?\n\nYou asked who lied to me and I gave you 2 examples from leftists, because you are clearly drinking their koolaid. Don't ask questions if you're going to just dismiss the answers.", "Go get a booster you weak little woke cuck.", "\"ilivehalo\"\n\nYou sure sound like it. Also, enjoy suffocating from COVID. I love when idiots kill themselves off.", "You can do a free trial of Paramount+, that's how I started. And after you cancel they'll normally give you another free month just to come back. That's basically how I watched all of the new Twilight Zone\n\nafter that it's $5/mo so it's not terrible but i understand if you don't wanna add another goddamn streaming service to your list (I feel the same way)", "I pay for it only for champions league. Everything else is trash", "Yeah that's what I'm talking about.", "Is this show still popular in the US?", "i have no idea what you're talking about. :D", "[https://www7.bflix.to/movie/south-park-post-covid-5ww5v/5kkp56m](https://www7.bflix.to/movie/south-park-post-covid-5ww5v/5kkp56m) bring adblock", "common mistake it stands for anal tactile massage", "Bless you child!", "Ah, I'm glad I don't have that b--- in my house" ]	117	videos	New Covid Variant [South Park]
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/r7k7jm/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/r7k7jm/deleted_by_user/	[ "I dig it. But do you have a 55 second version?", "Jokes on you, I listened to it twice. So fuck you!", "I only listened to 2 seconds so the average is still bad.", "This was a pleasant interlude in my day. I like the animation effect, what is it?", "Also needs a 43-second Radio Edit.", "I feel perfectly satisfied", "Are you on spotify?", "It was good, but I could have done with 1 less second, tbh.", "Is 54 seconds the mean or the median?", "Does it count as 54 seconds if I listened to it at x1.75 speed? (sounded good!)", "I skipped ahead to get to the beat", "Smooth as silk my man", "Can't believe I listened to the whole thing.", "I made it about 20 seconds in. Sorry bud.", "We also need a remix.", "▪︎●●▪︎▪︎●●▪︎", "Cheers", "I want this on Spotify. Sounds like ear chocolate", "Probably cause it's boring as fuck.", "Try harder.", "Most likely the mean. I'd say most people either listen to a full song or only 5-20 seconds of one." ]	21	videos	[deleted by user]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sD8Yh8KYhzM	/r/videos/comments/r7k8jy/if_blink128_wrote_wonderwall/	[ "I’ll take it", "Well played, sir.", "I liked it", "128 you say?", "Love it", "So much better", "Better than Oasis, but sorry nothing beats the original\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTfZshkNZRw", "This guy spent his pandemic more fruitfully than I spent my pandemic…", "wow this is so well done!", "The drumming on this one really does it for me. I've liked his other stuff but for some reason the drums here really stand out.", "Not California nasally enough.", "Yeah this rocks.", "You're right. Everything else was spot on but his singing needs to be just a bit more nasal to capture that true emo spirit.", "Now do wonderwall by Metallica.", "I like blink 256", "WOW THIS WAS FANTASTIC! Really enjoyed it, this guy is awesome and super talented. Great content", "This dude is so talented. I love his stuff! I'd actually like to see him put out something crappy / not good for once because I'm not even sure he could.", "i love every cover this guy does, genuinelly", "Yo straight up i need more content like this, any more of these classic songs turned pop punk??", "Double the trash.", "He's not shirtless playing the drums 0/10", "Well happy belated bday video man!", "Nvm guys I found his YouTube", "More Sum 41 than Blink 182", "Very well done!", "That's what they renamed themselves after Skiba replaced DeLonge because they're only 70% as good.", "Yea his channel is a treasure trove of awesome stuff like this", "I liked it. I like both.\n\nThe first chorus seems a little loaded and has less impact though. He’s really talented at the drums and I think the beat he’s using @1:40 where he’s down on the 3rd is a great fit. He brings it into the chorus @2:15 and it sounds great. IMHO", "[aaaaaaaaaand](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tI-5uv4wryI) [now I'm](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmpRLQZkTb8) [binging](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhZUsNJ-LQU) [Oasis](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJKpUH2kJQg) [again](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9JZWhjQDvc)", "He's doing Mark, not Tom. That's why he's singing with the bass :)", "You know it's a well written song when you can just switch the genre and it's still great.", "[Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noel_Gallagher's_High_Flying_Birds) \n \n >Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds are an English rock band formed in 2010 as the solo moniker of former Oasis songwriter, lead guitarist, and backing vocalist Noel Gallagher. The touring band consists of former Oasis members Gem Archer (guitar), Mike Rowe (piano), and Chris Sharrock (drums), as well as former Zutons member Russell Pritchard (bass). The band has also had a variety of guests contribute to albums such as the Crouch End Festival Chorus, Amorphous Androgynous, Johnny Marr, and Paul Weller. Since his departure from Oasis in August 2009, many speculated that Gallagher might record a solo album.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( \| )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( \| )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( \| )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove \| v1.5)", "This is pretty close to their sound, disregarding that he doesn't sound like Tom. Also, I fucking hate this song.", "Talented guy. Wish a was musically talented like that. Hell, I can’t even play the triangle😂", "Why don't believe that anyyybodyyy feels the way...", "This gave me crazy nostalgia. Good job. I’ll be listening to blink, simple plan, and a new found glory tomorrow at work.", "🎵 And after ulllllll, you're my Wonderwulllll 🎵", "What are you talking about? Blink-281 was my favorite band.", "That was the first thing I noticed too. Everything else is spot on, but the drums are a fucking perfect rendition of what they would sound like.", "[No, don't stop rockin!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9o94Xp63C0)", "I don't like that he used reverb, ya know? Just go in a big echoey room, ya know? And those drums weren't even drums. They were just pads triggering drum noises. Basically fake music", "They've got that blast processing.", "Mark Hoppus: FUCK", "Interesting, but if we're going that route then I'd prefer Metallica of Kill 'Em All to Black Album era, but more on the side of Master of Puppets or ...And Justice for All.", "This actually rips.", "So it didn't dawn on me until I saw this video that there's that accent these late 90s/early 2000s pop punk bands had. Was that just a California twang or were they just doing their version of Joe Armstrong's voice?", "You're right that it SOUNDS perfect. But visually, unless I'm fearing for the safety of the drum set, it's hard to say it's perfect.", "That a cover band?", "Well there's actually some compilation albums called Punk Goes Pop. You should check those out", "Do you even blink 512?", "Lmao what. Drumming is literally hitting something that makes a sound. Electronic kits fit that exact description.", "Definitely blink 1024", "It's just that era of punk I think.... but I'm also in Cali so maybe I am too close to be objective", "I didn’t know I needed this. Thank you!", "Check out the band \"Me First and the Gimme Gimmes\"", "Well this is just great", "He's been working on his drumming a lot lately", "I do too, but for his own sake, I hope he's working on his own stuff. I know he uses this stuff as a way to practice skills but I hope he's not getting stuck in a YouTube rut of like \"well I gotta just keep doing this because it's making me money on YouTube\" without being able to do original stuff.", "Just the emo type thing. Chris Molanphy JUST did a Hit Parade episode on the evolution of pop-punk like last month, it was really interesting. Highly recommend that podcast, it's so great.\n\nEDIT: Link: https://slate.com/podcasts/hit-parade/2021/10/hit-parade-takes-on-pop-punk-and-emo-from-green-day-to-fall-out-boy-and-panic-at-the-disco", "I knew a guy who played drums shirtless. His name was Rick. Rick was a cool Dude. He had a lot of tats, Mohawk and a bunch of piercings. One type of piercing in particular led Rick to his demise. The nipple. Rick is on stage, doing his thing and it’s in a small unventilated venue. So Rick being Rick rips his shirt off while waving them wood sticks all over. Well luck, bad luck, met Rick and as his shirt was coming off a small thread caught the nipple ring and forced it to have upward tension. Painful. Absolutely dreadful. But it gets worse! As he thrashed in the drums, ripping his shirt off as his desperate attempt to attract females, his stick caught hold of the ring and ripped his nipple clean off. Bad? Yeah. Could it be worse? Yes. Said nipple launched into the crowd. A poor young lady was singing along. Screaming in passion while her favorite band performed her favorite songs. Until one dreaded moment. The nipple lands in her mouth as she’s singing along. It was awesome.", "it's not the original, this was released in 1995", "Nailed the blink style drumming and fills and such.\n\nAmazes me how musically talented some people are.", "He puts his stuff on the music streaming services too.", "Damn. That’s good!! I’ve always found the original just a bit… meh.", "Having a $5000 V-Drum kit will definitely help you out", "Awesome. I puked a bit. Have an upvote.", "He's just signed with Pure Noise, hoping for some originals from that", "This guy is really good but i cringe at everything he does", "That is the story of.... Nipple Rick!", "Pretty good actually", "who did the original?", "https://youtu.be/NTfZshkNZRw\n\nIf it was recorded in The 60", "Damn...nailed it", "Hi Shapel.", "The mispronouncing of \"wonderwall\" did it for me. So on point.", "I’ve had enough internet for the day", "Lol $5000, last I saw these were $7500+", "\\BURP\\ I turned myself into a nipple, Morty. I'm Nipple Rick!", "(I was being sarcastic)", "Lol chill out homie", "He's working on an original album, just wait for that.", "Surely its 2^(11)", "Fun Fact: Concert Triangle is actually a pretty challenging percussion instrument to play at the professional level. There are muted strikes and long ringing strikes that are usually played in quick patters. and the area that you strike gives the sound a different timbre; striking near the middle of the side is a bit \"duller\" whereas closer to the corner is \"brighter\".", "This guy blinks.", "This guy has so many great covers. his country version of Fat Lip or the Half-speed drum Mr. Brightside are insane", "Really really good, but not enough open hi hat to be Travis", "I'm just dyslexic enough to not have noticed...", "Aw shit now I hear it. Fuck you’re right.", "Yeah as a drummer who learned basically strictly by listening to Travis, his style is super super specific", "All great songs!", "This guy is the musical equivalent of one those art forgers whose works are so great they end up going for a ton of money even when properly labeled. His Third Eye Blind stuff is amazing as well. Hope he keeps putting these out there.", "Lol I legitimately couldn't remember the actual number after I read Blink-128.", "Good to know😉", "Oasis.", "This is awesome!", "Aside from the obvious woosh.. did you agree with his reverb comment?", "My favourite is his Blink version Semi-Charmed Life if you or anyone hasn't stumbled upon it yet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_I453ahNvCQ", "Fuckin nails Mark too. Probably a little easier than trying to do Tom I'd imagine", "who the F downvoted this? its great!", "Hmm... not a fan?", "It's not every day you get to witness the birth of a new copypasta. Well done.", "Haha so true and when you have to straighten a picture because you're so OCD amirite?", "I really like most of his videos on YouTube and share them with my friends.", "Thanks for posting this, made me smile", "Thanks, I hate it.\n\nIt's really well done, but I hate it.", "I need to hear Don't Look Back in Anger as this!", "I’m stupid enough to have to sit and think what was the real number for a good 5 min.", "Solid drum work. I’ve seen some of these in the past, but the drumming here is top notch. The second verse especially and the decision to hold off on half time for the second chorus. \n\nAnd shit. How fast was the top of that second verse? My arms got tired watching it.", "Having a 10K drum set wouldn’t help my tempo illiterate ass.", "Doesn't hurt though", "GOT EM also you really did the math, I appreciate you", "Ahh, sorry I think I misread what you were saying. I didn't know he was working on his own album. I'm excited! Thanks for sharing that.", "Thanks, I hate it.", "The above comment was stolen from [this one](http://np.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/r7k8jy/if_blink128_wrote_wonderwall/hn2f8k8/) elsewhere in this comment section.\n\nIt is probably not a coincidence; here is some more evidence against this user:\n\nPlagiarized \| Original\n-------- \| -----------\n[U didn’t have a good home...](http://np.reddit.com/r/memes/comments/r7xiwk/best_time_of_my_life/hn3fiek/) \| [U didn’t have a good home...](http://np.reddit.com/r/memes/comments/r7xiwk/best_time_of_my_life/hn2sg1s/)\n[By first are you talking...](http://np.reddit.com/r/memes/comments/r7x7w7/we_bout_to_get_hit_by_a_storm/hn3fh5r/) \| [By first are you talking...](http://np.reddit.com/r/memes/comments/r7x7w7/we_bout_to_get_hit_by_a_storm/hn27ear/)\n[Conheads aren't going to...](http://np.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/r7nxoq/the_best_representation_of_hbos_succession/hn3fpz0/) \| [Conheads aren't going to...](http://np.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/r7nxoq/the_best_representation_of_hbos_succession/hn12wjp/)\n\nbeep boop, I'm a bot -\|:] It is this bot's opinion that [/u/KitchenEmotion8169](https://np.reddit.com/u/KitchenEmotion8169/) should be banned for karma manipulation. 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Don't feel bad, they are probably a bot too.\n\nConfused? Read the [FAQ](https://www.reddit.com/user/reply-guy-bot/comments/n9fpva/faq/?plagiarist=SubstantialFly2855) for info on how I work and why I exist.", "If I've heard the song before, I already know how it would sound of blink-182 performed it. The first couple of these I saw I thought they were satire until I read the comments.", "He can def sound like Tom and mark which is cool but the style really doesn't sound like blink at all", "The drums are SO CLEAN", "I love the cover. I also love the song. I'm the guy who always requests wonderwall at the piano bar because everyone seems to know all the lyrics.", "If we're posing out favorite blink-182 remixes, here's mine:\n\n[The 1975 'Chocolate' x blink-182 'Dumpweed'](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHZP8tEGTcc)" ]	128	videos	If Blink-128 wrote "Wonderwall"
https://youtu.be/-ZNoNHk8lbQ	/r/videos/comments/r7kcte/inspirational/	[ "Tom Cardy killing it again.", "I feel like this is someone elses inside joke. \n\nIs the lesson that male \"influencers\" are selling pyramid schemes to their followers?", "Ray Ban P's my man.", "My friend pushes kangan and I’m like… you can buy them for 300$ off Alibaba why would you pay 4K and she as like “it’s my business”…. Ok 👍" ]	4	videos	#inspirational
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vC5JnJD9KzY	/r/videos/comments/r7kqea/videogamedunkey_dislikes_are_disabled/	[ "I guess the only “benefit” of this colossal mistake YouTube is making is that some youtubers may actually give their honest opinions instead of regurgitating the same opinions for the sake of winning Subscribers by contributing to the echo chamber.\n\nHonestly still shocked YouTube went through with it.", "This isn't a donkey Kong video!", "He’s not gonna do it", "Super Mario Bros 2 is a bad game.", "kind of is though", "It's no Knack 2 but the boy's got chutzpah", "Am I the only one who just straight up can’t figure out when Dunkey is being sarcastic anymore? This last 6 months has been like some weird, new, interpretive review art form.", "I don't think he's ever used irony in his videos.", "You could tell by his voice this was cathartic for him.", "I can't tell which parts of the video he's trolling in and which parts he isn't. Am I old now", "\"Easy mode should be the only selectable difficulty\" almost made me spit out my drink laughing.", "I'm just here for all the people still seething about TLOU2", "\"Video games journalists are...\"\n\nflips through pages of notes\n\ntakes a deep breath\n\nresists all urges\n\n\"right...........\"", "I was going to dislike this video because it's Donkey Kong December and this video wasn't about Donkey Kong, glad I watched to the end where he redeemed himself", "you didn't watch the whole thing! dunkey is sticking strong to donkey kong december", "drop a dislike i will never ever see that shit 🖕\n\nThis is dunkey's best video in a year, I'm dying.", "The SMT and P5 bit had me rolling.", "Why would that happen? Views still matter and thus they're going to try to appeal to people in order to get repeat viewers.", "This is a very dunkey thing to say.", "I've tried to play Witcher 3 and Skyrim a couple of times, still have less than half an hour combined between the both of them.", "Have you tried Knack?", "\"Video game journalists are ... right.\"\n\nLaughed at that long pause.", "Since they don’t have to worry about people disliking it which turns off people from actually watching the video. I’ve seen a few videos that were heavily downvoted and I didn’t almost watch them but then it just turned out the opinion the video had was not the majority’s opinion. It’s just that people dislike something if it doesn’t support their views regardless of quality. If I didn’t see the colossal wave of dislikes I would have watched the video sooner.\n\nIn a way this video sort of touches on what I mean. Review bombing channels for liking a videogame will no longer going be an issue. Sure the comments may be hot trash fire but it is rather surprising relatively how few people actually read the comments when compared to the total views.\n\nIt was just a quick thought I had, nothing more than that.", "I think the fromsoft part is 100% troll. The others are 50/50. Dunkey really doesnt like JRPGs (except persona) and I do think that he doesnt like witcher 3 that much either, but he is playing it up.", "Dunkstonox when?", "man absolutely letting loose speedrunning hot takes any%", "For being rage bait, half of these takes are the correct one.", "The hate this game got from its sub is what finally convinced me to never pay attention to anything people say about a game. I just play games I think are interesting now, and everything is so much more enjoyable. Imagine that. This applies to movies and music as well.", "Of course they are. The fact that it's rage bait is what's so fun about liking videogames. If the games suck, there's always the raging gamers.", "Wise move.", "Only thing I disagreed on was TLO2 having one of the best stories in gaming. That's absolute BS and Dunkey knows he's just stirring the pot.\n\nClearly the best story in a video game belongs to \n\n>!Super Mario Bros 2 Baybeeeeee", "I can't see anybody's scores in the comments. I'm expecting some spicy takes...\n\n...or not. Maybe the downvotes in YouTube affect the algorithm and are therefore still important, kind of like how they are on Reddit.", "they hated jesus because he told the truth", "When is Reddit getting rid of downvotes? Oh you don't like this?", "Haven't played either, but they've already given me more entertainment than I could imagine.", "No one can replicate Dunkey's voice, it'd break the AI", "Yup, some game subreddits are fairly decent, most others I'll visit for patch notes and information about outages and never anything else.", "I’m so with you on this. It’s so relaxing just playing/watching stuff that gives me joy. Couldn’t care less about other people’s opinions on stuff I find enjoyable.", "Yeah, no. \n\nCyberpunk was a mess on release, even for a lot of pc players. Even without bugs, it's a very hollow world 8n many ways.", "He's right, Donkey Kong IS good!", "Okay so... old guy here who really wishes I could play Bloodbourne and dark souls but can't make it an hour into either cuz they're too hard. Will I like Demon Souls? I'm not an incompetent gamer by any means but I don't have the time I used to have for \"getting good\" at really hard games like these.", "The really wild thing are the subs that still exist just to hate on something that happened years ago. /r/freefolk /r/saltierthancrait /r/TheLastOfUs2 like I get it it's funny to meme on something with others and dog pile for a little while but at this point it's beyond sad to just come to a sub everyday and just find a new way to HATE. It's so bananas.", "It's very much in the same vein. Unforgiving, steep difficulty curve, plus it's older than the others so I found the mechanics pretty janky.\n\nWhat do you use for gaming? Depending on the platforms there are a lot of good options for stuff that feels as satisfying as Dark Souls but doesn't pride itself on being a pain in the ass.", "He was trolling on the rpg part because Persona is a spinoff from SMT. They share elements because the games are in a way related.", "This is the answer I needed to save myself $50. I have a ps5. Most recent games I've beat were Tales of Arise, Fallen Order, R&C, FF7 and several others that escape me at the moment. Games like the xenoblade, FF7 and Tales of arise seem to peek my interest the most.", "Deciding whether Dunkey’s serious is my GOTY", "I'd really recommend Ghost of Tsushima. It's absolutely gorgeous, and has variable difficulty. The combat is very satisfying.", "But he is also right, Most people who played Witcher 3 did so after it was out and patched up and never got to experience the crap shit start. Which honestly was better than Witcher 2", "Viewership also takes into account duration. If you say a bunch of unpopular opinions, get a lot of dislikes, people are more likely to click on it, see dislikes, and just leave. That'll no longer happen. \n\n\nOn the flip side, people that make shitty clickbait with no real content will get more viewers because people won't see the dislikes and know to click off immediately", "Even after Witcher 3 was patched and bugs were fixed, it's still an overrated game. There's a ton of copy and pasted fluff in Witcher 3 to bloat gametime and people just give it a pass.", "It had some Donkey Kong music in it.", "Lmao way more than half.", "To be fair W3 was the first game of theirs that really got popular to the masses, people had no expectations, even if flawed people could enjoy it for what it was.\n\nThat wasn't going to fly with Cyberpunk lol", "Dude the Witcher 3 is such a bad game I have never understood how it was not only well received but called the best game of all time by so many people.", "The internet has gotten so toxic it's actually forced me to go back to pre-internet times when I bought games based mostly on word of mouth and basic marketing, and there wasn't a new niche hate-train or hivemind with every single update made to game, so you're basically only ever hearing the most pissed off people from each snapshot of that game, in time, forever.", "I mean /r/freefolk existed during the main run of the series and was created because /r/gameofthrones wouldn't let people discuss leaked content afaik.\n\nAlso the last season(s) of GoT deserves the hate it gets, never seen something that was such a cultural monolith die so quickly like GoT did and it was squarely because of how ass those final episodes were.", "I'd say if you were able to do Fallen Order, specially if you did well, you could do Souls games. Some of the stuff in there was pretty hard\n\nDark Souls 3 I guess would be the easiest to start with? but you know, better spend money on stuff you know you will enjoy", "Donkey Kong December\n\nDonkey Kong December\n\nDonkey Kong December\n\nDonkey Kong December\n\nDonkey Kong December\n\nDonkey Kong December\n\nDonkey Kong December\n\nDonkey Kong December", "Good video. But dislikes really aren't that powerful. People just love complaining about not having something when it is taken from them, even when they never cared about it in the first place.", "Freefolk was made for a mix of discussing leaked content, as well as discussing anything about the show with zero care for spoilers. \n\nAlso, the shitposting that came out of that sub during and after Season 8 were absolutely amazing. Then there was the weird \"civil war\" where it broke into a bunch of other subreddits, and then became rather shit.", "As a regular on freefolk I’ll say that it’s not really a “new way” to hate, it’s just the same long lasting sense of disappointment, and that’s pretty much the only place to talk about the world that we spent a LOT of time in.\n\nThat being said, people do tend to take it too far by attacking actors opinions or straight up calling for attacks on the showrunners, but…yeah.", "Gaming has become a massive echo chamber, especially with twitch, When tlou2 came out all the streamers wanted the views from playing it but also wanted to ride the hate by constantly spouting the most common complaints about it. So many people who haven't even played the game will tell you everything that's wrong with it.", "Same, I never played SMT, but I have some buddies that love that shit. I've watched hours of it and never played a single second haha. Maybe one day.", "Let's also not forget that time /r/TheLastOfUs2 literally had members threaten Girlfriend Reviews, as well as make up a bunch of shit about them. They release a twenty minute video, and it was amazing. And then the subreddit started hating on them, and then all of a sudden there was not a single post about Girlfriend Reviews, and a rtonne of posts suddenly disappeared, too. Was hysterical seeing that sub whine after being called out on their bullshit. \n\nPersonally, I loved Last of Us 2, but also, each to their own. Play what you find fun, don't be a dick to people, problem solved.", "Yeah freefolk wasn't made to hate, they were so excited about the incest boat sex it was all they could post for weeks. It just became a hateful place as it became apparent how bad season 8 was.", "Yeah exactly, that's what I'm saying, 50/50 troll/serious, that was obviously a joke.\n\n(And the point of the video is to piss off as many people as possible, so he had to rile up the JRPG community in some way)", "> but he is playing it up.\n\nHe 100% does that for amusement factor. His first Death Stranding was him bashing on the game, that the vehicle controls were bad, but the video was just him driving over mountainous rocks where you wouldn't drive to begin with. But he also wasn't wrong, the vehicles are pretty average, and I can see why a lot of people didn't like the game, including Dunky. \n\nHis retro video on it a couple months ago was interesting as fuck, though.", "That video when he said he was done making normal videos, and was going to make click baity shit was funny, and then the next two weeks or so, every second day was him releasing shitty click bait videos....he's an expert at shitposting.", "Lol what…", "It is objectively not bad, but when it came out people were praising the shit out of it to the point it was annoying. Nowadays I see the opposite. It's amazing seeing the zoomers come into reddit and just completely have a different scope of what makes a good game. I'm curious, what do you think is a good game that's in the same genre?\n\nI'm going to guess you just didn't like the controls in the beginning and gave up. Or you thought it was too hard. I've heard that one too.", "Specifically in smt you use demons and in persona those demons are used by the MC for his magic as personas", "Dislikes will still matter, the algorithm still uses them.", "I enjoyed dragon age inquisition a lot, I think that's within the same genre. \n\nThe story for the Witcher seemed OK from what I played, but controlling Geralt felt so floaty and weird and the combat didn't feel good either. It's hard to explain, it just felt like nothing had weight and all my actions were delayed.", "Lol it's not a colossal mistake at all. The ~~internet~~ social media peasants will be over it within the week after the youtubers have capitalized on it. People just love complaining about technology when it changes. It's always been like that. You're not special. Also, it's hilarious that YOU think you know better about how youtube works than the people who run it. That's social media arrogance for you though. Wouldn't surprise me if they did studies that show that most people give 0 shits about dislikes on a video or ever have it factor into their youtube experience.\n\nEDIT: RemindMe! 1 Week \n\n:D", "Yeah, CDPR has been criticized in the past for that but people seemed to brush that off with Witcher. But there was definetely signs of botched development/too ambitious development in W3.", "Did you like the game? I read none of the “hate” beforehand and thought the storyline was beyond retarded.", "It's not a bad game, it just not as good as people say it it.", ">Maybe the downvotes in YouTube affect the algorithm and are therefore still important, kind of like how they are on Reddit.\n\nA surprise rational speculation from threads concerning this subject.", "“That game sucked.” \n\n“OMG, seethe, cope, homophobe.”", "Dunkey wields too much power. How will we survive this Dunkopalypse?", "I tried playing after Horizon and the combat is so janky I quit after an hour. Horizon perfected open world combat and really spoiled me for other open world games", "I think it would be cool if a new downvote system was implemented on reddit but everything I've thought of just seems to be too convoluted in the end. Things like limited downvotes per day/week/month or downvote values based on how much you contribute to the thread or sub. Would be interesting to see something like that experimented on but reddit is too mainstream now and they aren't going to do anything experimental or wild I imagine.", "Exactly, his videos has that quality where every joke has a grain of truth to it. He is using an opinion/stance he has about a particular element in a game to showcase what he thinks about it while also exaggerating and joking about it in order to have an entertaining video.\n\nAnd as someone who played Death Stranding (and love it), I can see his point and appreciate what he likes/doesn't like about it. The vehicles are definetely clunky.", "Please soon, then I can talk shit about Neutral Milk Hotel.", "What about among us Mondays though?!", "r/freefolk is full of fookin kneelers.\n\nr/oldfreefolk is where it's at", "Ayyy, someone else that loved Death Stranding! There are dozens of us!\n\n\n\nYeah, there were definitely a few areas where I just abandoned the bike and ran/jump with the Speed Skeleton. That at Mk. 3 was fun.", "Yes, to promote the videos more. There's a reason people say not to dislike videos you hate, just to ignore it and move on. A dislike is still an engagement, just now they don't even have the downside of showing that people hate your video.", "lol found one, loser. The first one was exactly as terrible.\n\nedit: ahahah the neckbeards are here. See the video above for the correct opinion, and keep mad. Every downvote I get is going towards funding underprivileged children to watch the upcoming HBO version of The Last Of Us and its showrunner Neil Druckmann", "perhaps less likely to get dogpiled when people can't see that there's already a mountain of dislikes, though. I don't know enough to say if I'm for or against the change, but I can see that as a potential advantage. We all know around here how much people like to jump on a downvote train.", "I didn’t play either. Couldn’t care less.", "Yet it turned into a great game.\n\nPersonally I think Cyberpunk is a fantastic game as it stands even with its jank. CDPR will keep working on it though I'd bet, like they did with TW3.", "So the whole point is they're the exact same, but people got mad about the second because of definitely not homophobia.", "Wait... your argument is that they're both BAD???? What does it take to please you?", "If you don't like his voice please select \"dislike\"", "Aren’t they entirely story driven?", "They're not my bag, those games. Good stories, bad gameplay imo.", " Speaking of PC, it’s also been positive on steam since release. The world is also pretty dense if you play it. Objectively the biggest issue with this game was the launch on last gen consoles. \n\nBut I mean if you’ve played it and feel that way, what are some of those many ways? Specifically.", "He isn't wrong. Donkey Kong is cool.", "Yep, which is not my bag for a game. And they're both well fleshed out stories, but shitty games.", "That's like all his videos.", "So if one story isn’t good, that makes the game bad. Regardless of if the gameplay is the same.", "Wtf are you doing outside of LSF and okbuddy get back in the content cage Ostonox", "They're both good stories, numpty. It's why most people actually loved both outside reddit.", "/r/fuckolly > /r/freefolk > /r/oldfreefolk", "He's becoming the first strand-type youtuber.", "Right. Could be subjective, though. I hear subjective things exist.", "That's why so many people are still mad about a game that's several years old. Stay mad, weirdo.", "So, I hadn't played a video game in a long time and my roommate was playing his PlayStation and I was commenting on the graphics and draw distance of the Spider-Man game. When he got done he fired up Last of Us 2 and handed me the controller. He gave me a quick summary of the first one and let me run wild. I think I binge ran that game across 2 days. Fuck, that story was awesome. It wasn't until later that I found out there was so much hate for it. Like, did we even play the same game? That shit was moving. The whole violence begets violence narrative was refreshing, along with the lack of a happy ending.", "I didn't play it because it ran like shit for everyone and I'm not paying 60$ for that. Also they kinda botched alot of stuff a game like that shouldn't botch... You know like police car chases? They couldn't figure that out so they just despawn/respawn everywhere. If you enjoyed it, all the more power to you. \n\nI'm sure they will keep working on it.\n\nEdit: Also why did you start talking about Cyberpunk all of a sudden? We were talking about the witcher, lol", "It has completely fucked tutorial videos. How are you going to learn how to do something right if you watch a bad tutorial video without knowing it?", "Contrary to the public idea of \"dislike doesn't matter anymore\" I think Youtube actually made dislike matter more.\n\nYoutube algorithm can now hide heavily disliked videos in the recommendations and search with little repercussion because mass dislikes don't exist now.\n\nI can see mass dislikes really fucking up the algorithm so they nerfed the weight of the like/dislike ratio before.", "It was a really refreshing game to play. Great music as well. Zooming was with the speed skeleton was also a favourite of mine, lol.", "Careful now, if you get too many downvotes, Reddit might remove the downvote button.", "I know it's another From Software game, and fully admit to it being harder than your average game, but Sekiro was wonderful. I didn't think I had to grind as much in it as I do in the souls games, and a lot of my trouble was unlearning the stuff souls taught me anyway (Damn you rolling instinct). You might come out ahead not having played the rest of them. \n\nIt's got a lot more emphasis on rhythm and has a sort of musicality that the souls series doesn't have. You are still learning attack patterns and dying in the process, but there's a lot less downtime between attempts because of how mobile you are. No need to clear the whole way back every time when you have a grappling hook. \n\nIn dark souls, I felt like beating a boss required memorizing a movie. In Sekiro, it feels more like remember song lyrics and the beat. Whether that's easier or not is up to you. \n\nFrom Software stuff is popular for a reason, and the difficulty ain't all of it. The worlds are beautiful, the stories are puzzles that are absolutely worth putting together in the very unique way they're given. \n\nI'm not saying it's easy. I personally found it less grindy than the other games. It was absolutely worth the time I put in.", "No. One was mostly hated for gameplay reasons, justified or not, one was mostly hated for narrative reasons, justified or not.", "Oh man, got me.", "I would literally pay money for DLC that had me just walking around killing monsters for bounties. It was just that fun!", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weIGfdtAR88", "Sure but...as someone playing through SMTV, man is it overrated.\n\nIf this were a normal year of games, SMTV wouldn't have made a ripple. But with the Switch being game starved, it's being heralded as this grand must-have rpg.\n\nThe whole game is just matching colors (read: elements), rng management, meaningless dialogue outside of combat, random dialogue inside combat, and more rng. Hell it's not even a difficult game; it's just all rng. Sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you don't. And they built a game around that.", "Still replying though, when your first point was \"couldn't care less\"", "Iirc r/freefolk also did a charity thing when r/gameofthrones didn't allow it. It blew up and even got Emilia Clarke's attention.", "The NPCs in the world are very poor at selling the illusion of being people actually part of a living world. Until some patches were done, they all reacted in robotic perfect unison when any violence occurred near them. Even now, they are very lifeless, and not as convincing as GTA (a series I don't particularly like, but undeniably does things like thus better).\n\nOther cars were literally not even really there for the most part. They were just illusions. Again, even after patches that made some improvements, its far inferior to other games' worlds. Also, the cars control abysmally.\n\nThe police and the wanted / pursuit system is an absolute joke, even after patches. It's extremely immersion breaking, (yet again) even after patches.\n\nThe game is often very pretty, but it's also very shallow for the most part.", "I’ll defend Olly till the day I die. Fucker was a child thrust into a shit world, and it was conversations with people like Ser Alliser and Sam, of all people, that ultimately led to him doing what he did.", "but aren't the dislikes still counted? Its just not publicly shown? The youtube algorithm surely keeps track of it.", "I think that just means gamers are manchildren with weird opinions", "Alright man fair enough. You do you.", "I absolutely loved Cyberpunk, but saying it's a perfect game is so far from the truth, that it's become a 2D model of it.", "Spoilers bro wtf. I hadnt seen it yet", "that GFR video was epic. I love that dunkey did an April Fools video for GFR too, a team-up for the ages.", "Exactly! Their review was probably one of the absolute best reviews in regards to the story. They truly understood what the developers were going for with the story, forcing us to empathize with the antagonist and ponder the idea that everyone has the potential to be the villain of someone else’s story.", "/r/TheLastOfUs2 was never “the sub” for the game. The sub was always the same sub for the original game. The TLOU2 sub was just made for hate and stupid memes.", "Videogamedunkaufman", "it's one of the few games I've played through multiple times. Glad I did too, felt like I missed a lot of little touches the first time.", "I don't understand calling games literally unplayable because they have non game breaking bugs. Bugs and glitches can be the most fun part of a game as long as:\n\n1. They don't cause lasting damage to your game state.\n\n2. Are unlikely to affect the experience negatively if you aren't provoking them.\n\n3. You can anticipate bugs from your actions. The more unreasonable the action the less reasonable the outcome is allowed to be.\n\n4. Most of all, they are fun when used to your advantage.", "I want this video to be the most disliked video Dunkey has (creators can still see the number of dislikes), only because that would be kinda funny.", "But did you dislike? I know I did.", "HEY HAVE YOU GUYS HEARD THAT YOUTUBE REMOVED THE DISLIKE COUNTER? I HAVENT SEEN ANY VIDEOS ABOUT IT YET. I CANT BELIEVE NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT IT", "A lot of truth is said in jest.", "I'll say this much about r/freefolk; from what I've seen they keep the ire where it belongs, the writing. It never goes into attacking the actors or attacking people that did like how GoT ended, which is what separates them from the psychopaths that made up the TLOU2 and TLJ backlashes.", "/r/patientgamers. Disregard hype and hate, embrace patience.", "I legit responded too the wrong comment. Whoops.\n\nBut the police chases are way overblown as a problem. People keep thinking of it like it's GTA cyberpunk when it's not. The police chases aren't a mechanic meant to be overcome, and are completely irrelevant to the games mechanics and progression. But for some reason people keep making a big deal out of it. They also patched out the spawning behind you like a week after release. Think of it like a Bethesda game with CDPR writing.\n\nAlso ran beautifully on PC.", "You won't.", "Feel the same way 100%. TLOU2 is incredible\n\nI am convinced people only dislike it because Abby's biceps are bigger than 99% of mankind and they feel emasculated", "The Shin Megami Tensei bit will rustle so many feathers.", "I love how the first half is relatively honest and then he just goes all out", "Did you expect the comments to be about some other video or maybe a news story?", "That's funny you mentioned betheseda, i was about to add in my comment that Cyperpunk is like a fallout game.. that's 70% complete.\n\nI mean, you can't disagree that the game relased as, and still pretty much is, an unfinished product, right?", "[This video](https://youtu.be/QCYMH-lp4oM) by NakeyJakey is probably the best that I've seen that captures a lot of the feelings I had surrounding TLOU2. Worth a watch regardless of where you land on it.", "The first half is honest, the second half is funny asf", "Demon souls is probably the easiest souls game overall, but harder in the start when you don't know what you're doing.\n\nYou can always look up a mage guide since magic is stupidly OP. All souls game are mostly about doing 1v1. If more than that, run.", "Shin Megami and From Soft are jokes, the rest are exaggerated but most honest", "Also it wasn’t full of “look at my got drawing” “check out my got cosplay” bullshit. It was the better got sub by far.", "Lol. That could be.", "Hey there is a secret hidden easy mode. Just look for the broken builds for the particular game such as magic being busted broken op in some of the games. The only game you can't easy mode is sekiro. Saw cleaver helps a lot in Bloodborne. Age is not a handicap just another hurdle that YOU can cross. You got this.", "Dunkey is a treasure.", "Comments", "It's much better now already than it was on release, and it absolutely needed some polish\n\nBut it's a genuinely good game. Once it gets that polish I have high expectations for how it'll be remembered.", "Pretty big collection of bad takes there lmao", "I understand the satire, but was Cyberpunk buggy because The Witcher 3 was buggy? I had a good experience playing it, only some minor bugs, mostly in Tousaint.", "Say he won't do it and he will do it every day.", "i liked it. i knew what they were doing when they first forced me to play from the other perspective, and i didn't like it, but it grew on me. it had exactly the effect they wanted on me even though i knew i was walking into it.\n\ni think a lot of people got turned off by it because they thought the game was preaching at them \"you're the bad guy, look at all the evil things you're doing, you bad person!\", but it isn't about the player or any decisions you (can't) make. it's just a story that was told more effectively by giving you the opportunity to empathize with and be disgusted by both sides.\n\ni originally thought the forced dog killing part would've been much better if it was optional, so that you'd actually feel guilty for doing it later. but it's not about the player, it wasn't the game wagging its finger at you for doing bad things because you weren't doing them (the character was), it's just a story about tribalism. same theme as the last game, except this time you experience it from more than just the 1 tribe the first game made you feel a part of.", "Really depends on your rig when you played it, and if it was at launch.\n\nIt was one of those victims of hype, where they overpromised and underdelivered, but have made steps to make it better.", "Wow. The comments on this thread are utter shit.\n\nBetween the guys copy/pasting YouTube comments and the people with the social skills of a wooden spoon unable to distinguish irony I don't know who I'm more weirded out by.\n\nIs Reddit always like that when Americans are the only ones up ?", "Holy shit Arcane got recognition!!", "The Dunkey has spoken!!!!", "Yes. Welcome to hell.", "This is where I'd put my dislike IF I HAD ANY!", "I did this with the eternals. Worked out great for me.", "A lot more work.", "Sounds like you are talking about Cyberpunk to me, I was curious about The Witcher 3.", "Wish I could dislike this", "Oh, yes it was the same but with less hype about it because the first 2 Witcher games are hella janky.", "Finally, I can talk crap on dunkey and dislike him without the fear that anyone ever knows my dislike is aggregated with a bunch of others. Knack 2 is trash. He's not that good at Mario. Deal with it boyeeeeee /s\n\nI love this black guy", "Osto in the wild!", "I hit dislike on the video for the memes, I feel so free!", "Did you? I'm seeing no dislikes on the video.", "Im so mad I left a like. He has to know !", "Pretty sure he's just saying whatever he can to grind as many gears as possible.", "He's serious on parts I agree with and he's trolling on the parts I disagree with", "Monkey kong december", ">truth is, i never liked knack 2 (baybee)", "While demons souls is pretty unforgiving like the others, I personally found it a lot easier than the other ones. Still very frustrating and janky at times.", "what the fuck", "It takes a half hour just to start Skyrim.", "Counterpoint: I tried playing Dark Souls and I bounced off of it. A year later, I went back and tried Demon's Souls. For some reason, things \"clicked\" in Demon's Souls, despite the fact that Dark Souls is now one of my favorite games. \n\n\nMaybe it's because Demon's Souls levels are more structured (so I didn't go to the catacombs or new londo ruins immediately to get destroyed), or the fact that I picked a Faith build, which gives some great miracles and blessed gear gives you some substantial healing over time, gave the game a little more cushion despite the fact that it was a bit jankier. Granted this was around \\~2012, gaming has evolved a lot since then.", "> You know, like police car chases?\n\nGTA is the only reason everyone expects a game with an open world city to have that sort of stuff, but it’s not GTA. It’s a story-based RPG like the Witcher, not a micro transaction laden sandbox to trick children into paying $20. Play the many stories scattered about, and enjoy the city. It’s exactly like the Witcher except in a cyberpunk setting. People just have different expectation for open world cityscape RPGs because there’s only one powerhouse in the whole space.\n\n> Also why did you start talking about Cyberpunk all of a sudden? \n\nSame company. Same bugs. Different expectations thank to Witcher’s success and the existence of GTA.", "The writing and acting absolutely demolished similar games at the time, such as Mass Effect and every other third person RPG with dialog trees.", "I played Witcher 3 at launch and it was perfectly fine", "Hey, just like I said, if you like it, more power to you. Personally I won't purchase incomplete AAA games before they're complete. I didn't pre-order or purchase No Man's Sky when it came out. It got crap for what it tried to do towards consumers, and rightly so. But I'm happy to say that today it is genuinly a great, enjoyable game and I'm happy I bought it. Maybe Cyberpunk and CDPR can turn its ship around in a similar fashion. I'll be sure to check it out then (with as fresh eyes as I can. I do love the setting. It's not like I wasn't hyped for this game either).", "idk bro, I think this is the guy who holds the record on Bowser’s Big Bean Burrito. He could do it", "Thanks for the input, but I wasn't talking to you.", "I totally understand that not all games are for everyone, but if you still have any desire to experience the FromSoft games at all, there is absolutely no shame reading/watching a guide or checking out the wiki for some tips. It took me a few times bouncing off these games before it clicked, I needed to use a wiki, but I'm glad I did because they are easily my favorite games now. Funnily enough, the game that \"clicked\" first with me was Demon's Souls.", "Yeah, I mean, wildlings slay your village for no reason and leave you an orphan and this \"Jon\" asshole thinks they can all just be friends cause he banged one?\n\nOh, and that chick the asshole was sleeping with literally shot Olly's dad in the neck right in front of him. A village full of people and the first one she kills is some dude laughing joyously with his son. What in the fuck.\n\nHonestly fuck Jon Snow and Ygritte tbh", "Lol, okay. Then don’t make comments that anyone can answer.", "Good point. I'll make sure to PM you in the future that I wasn't talking to you.", "The only incorrect thing he said about that topic.", "he’s spot on about easy mode in games. he nailed it.", "I’ll be waiting!\n\nThis message is for u/Felinski eyes only! If you are not u/Felinski stop reading now!", "My favorite thing about really enjoying TLJ and thinking it's great is that I get extra entertainment when it makes people have an aneurysm from their seething anger when I bring it up. It's also ironic that everyone who absolutely hates it have thought about it longer and discussed and dissected it more than I ever will.", "My friend, some games are simply not worth playing for people like you and me. Anything FromSoftware makes is just not the game. Having to spend up to an hour or more just to fight one boss and learn all of the patterns can be fun if you don't have a baby that screams in your ear to pay attention to him every 10 minutes. I don't know your situation, but if you don't have a lot of time to put into it, souls games just aren't the types of games you should play. \n\nI've also never gotten more than an hour into them. Personally, I think there should be a difficulty setting that's not just way too hard, but \"tHeY ReSPect tHe GaMer. GiT GuD.\" is the only advice any souls player would give. I don't have time for that shit, and I don't really want to put that much time into a game like that.", "Just watch a good let's play with no commentary on YouTube. That's what I did as someone into story and boss fights. You can watch one episode as a trial", "That was...holy crap, that was almost a year ago now.", "I honestly found out that paying attention to what people say is ok, as long as you listen to the right people, if someone say something along the lines of \"no politics in my games!!!\", \"feminism ruined everything\" and shit like that I already know that I can blatantly ignore them.", "Dunkey likes to misrepresent gameplay to make a rather dubious point way too often.", "Totally agree", "Say I won't do it", "Marriage does that to you.", "What I also love about Dunkey is he's not afraid to revisit a game if need be. He revisited TLOU and has now completely turned around on it. He register Uncharted 4 and appreciated it way more. He was mixed on RDR2 then on revisit it was his favorite of that year. With Death Stranding he revisited it and reexamined a lot of his past criticisms, and reevaluated what still held up and why, and what stuff he came around to a bit more.", "The algorithm doesn’t use dislikes, it only cares about views and maybe likes if memory serves me right", "Personally, I don't watch his videos because he is black.", "The police and cars thing is fair, but i think gta is a poor comparison to use. I cant think of any open world RPG that has had super high quality non named npc's.\n\n\nI find it weird that its never really brought up as a deal breaker for the witcher, or bethesda games, or borderlands 2, etc, but it is for Cyberpunk for some reason.\n\nThe robotic group reaction was 100% weird at launch, but thankfully seems to be gone now.\n\nas for the pursuit system, I guess I never really noticed because I expected them to act like standard RPG guards, but with cars. The pop in was pretty bad, but in terms of actual mechanics its not really any different from other examples of open RPG's. Obviously doesnt hold a candle to GTA, but as i mentioned before I dont think it ever really tried to do so.\n\nMost of the complaints i've seen seem to faller under that banner somewhat (at least in terms of gameplay/world. Loads of 100% fair complaints about bugs and rushed launch). People expected a perfect fusion of TW3 and GTA5 in a cyberpunk setting. When they got upgraded TW3 in a cyberpunk setting they got mad at the lack of GTA aspects. I never quite got this, because it wasnt really marketed as a GTA type game.\n\nI would also call those things pretty surface level aspects of the games world. Its chock full of little story lines and notes and pieces of enviromental story telling that give it depth. Those mechanics aide immersion for sure, but lacking them doesn't mean the game is shallow. Plenty of deep and lived in game worlds existed years before those types of mechanics were even invented.", "I just cannot bring myself to like this guy for whatever reason.", "It's my favorite game of all time", "I disliked this video because it's Donkey Kong December. One day we shall uncover the dislike database and find out the real truth about the dislike counts.", "I'm about to go Doki Doki Panic on your ass.", "I find it stupidly weird when people copy the first comment on youtube", "Dunkey puts out whatever he thinks is funny, everyone else's opinion be damned.", "One time during an encounter I shot an WLF fighter and ran out of bullets. As I fumbled with the controller to switch to another weapon, the injured enemy surrendered and begged for her life, that was pretty neat\n\nTLOU2 is mechanically tight and full of things like that, it's a damn shame it gets overlooked in the discourse", "I think you have a unique outlook here. I just want my games to work the way they're intended.\n\nEvery now and then you get a fun bug like Ghandi Nuking everyone in Civ. Or the unintended combos in Street Fighter. But most of the time it's just immersion breaking and/or frustrating.\n\nI've almost never played a game and thought \"The bugs have enhanced this experience\".", "The simplest acts of kindness are by far more powerful than a thousand heads bowing in prayer. Just so you know, the correct spelling is [Gandhi](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahatma_Gandhi).", "Sadly Gandhi wasn't even my second guess on how to spell that...", "hastonox uploaded to biracial Santa when PogO", "I need to play it. The first one was awesome and I just played the remastered version on ps4 a couple months back. It's just finding the time to play.", "Honestly I like it. He truly doesn't give a shit, but in a fun way, not in a toxic obnoxious way. He'll say whatever he thinks is funny, whether it's something he actually believes, something he completely disagrees with, or something that he's lukewarm about but pretends to feel strongly about, he just throws it all together into a satirical video and lets his viewers think what they want.", "I was hoping theyd be discussing the validity of his argument.", ">\tViewers can still dislike videos to tune their recommendations and privately share feedback with creators.\n\nhttps://blog.youtube/news-and-events/update-to-youtube/", "Yeah maybe it was just how gorgeous the Witcher is, or maybe I was just sucked into it, but the bloat always felt fun. I was doing the most mundane monster contracts and was having fun", "If it isn't the legendary vegan themselves. Real does recognize real.", "Yea I would love to do that but I don’t have the money to do that.", "It's kinda funny that people are so mad about this considering you can't actually know how many downvotes a reddit post gets.", "You'd be surprised at how many people are running things across the planet that have no idea or no business in doing so. It is called nepotism, and there's plenty of people in positions they shouldn't be in, and plenty of people who do know better.\n\nYouTube will be no different. It will have upper management who makes the main decisions based off someone coming up with an idea. Don't act like you know how the world functions and call people peasants. It isn't any different from what you've just done.", "Seems like a legitimate criticism to me. I still enjoyed it but everyone places value on every\n game aspect differently. More the reason why saying a game is objectively bad is not really a good statement. There are objective metrics and I'm pretty sure most of them have the game as a good game.", "Lilkirbs?", "Wouldn't you be discovering his opinion via the comment thread, thus spoiling the video anyway?", "Witcher 3 is indeed such an overrated game.. the story telling is awesome but the actual gameplay is so bland.", "Dunkey must have felt invincible while making this video. \\I can copy youtube comments too ya know.", "You don't have the money to not spend money on things?", "I played TLOU2 about a year after it came out. Loved it. Not a single part I didn't like. Best story of any game I've ever played. Replayed it about 3 times.\n\nPlayed Cyberpunk recently. Loved it. Gameplay was linear but who gives a fuck the world is beautiful, unique and the story is good. The game got repetitive after a while but not to the point that it detracted from the experience before I finished the main story and every side quest worth doing (and there's a lot). Not much replayability until they release the dlc next year though because the open world, while beautiful and full, is pretty dull. No GTA style antics to entertain yourself with. Apart from the driving being janky I never encountered bugs and the game runs super smooth on decent settings @ 1440p.\n\nE: ~~and immediately got downvoted, proving the other person's point.~~ went from -2 to +9", "lmao yes, he might've actually wanted to say the rest but you could just tell that one hurt", "You’re forgetting you’re on Reddit, so we can downvote you to oblivion and back for heresy like that here. Goodbye. Knack 3 will be the one.", "It's a step up from the first two gameplay-wise.\n\nBut the first two were broken messes. Excellent storytelling throughout though.", "When that image appeared I felt so called out lol, imma MCU and Rick n Morty fan", "I hate that I can't say I fucking hate Last Jedi without people assuming I was one of the crazies sending disgusting messages to Rose's actress. Those people ruined my ability to hate!", "Yo TLOU2 hurt me so bad but was an incredible game", "The Demon’s Souls Remake got me into From games. Now I’ve beat that, DS1 and 2, and am working on Bloodborne. Love From now.", "Try adding r/titanfolk to the list as well as those are the people who hated the ending of attack on titan manga.", "It’s not healthy to cling to your resentment of a product longer than any normal person would a bad intimate relationship.\n\nTo me, it says something darker about people and the sense of belonging and status derived from hatred.", "This video has 3.3K dislikes as of this comment. I have no problem seeing the dislikes for whatever reason.", "I feel him. I couldn't say anything good about them either.", "After Metroid Dread I feel like Dunkey has mastered the ability to speak his mind while also completely make shit up to piss people off in the exact same tone of voice.", "It's been rolling out in different areas at different times.", "The triple D", "Slightly off topic but The Girlfriend Reviews is probably one of my favorite YouTube channels. Their videos are hilarious and the reviews seem very genuine.", "Or \"play old games, say 'I don't get what people liked about this one'\"\n\nIt's feast and famine.", "The thing with every single Bethesda game is that you need to apply [unofficial patches](https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/266) because all their games run on unstable and outdated engines and they never fix all the bugs and other issues.\n\nThis actually goes as far back as [The Terminator](https://www.mobygames.com/game/dos/terminator) which released back in 1991, years before Todd Howard joined and even before the The Elder Scrolls: Arena released.\n\nFans just use open source re-implementation projects instead of trying to play the original releases of The Elder Scrolls: Arena, Daggerfall or Morrwind as they run so much better and seamlessly on modern hardware.\n\nFor example:\n\n [OpenTESArena](https://github.com/afritz1/OpenTESArena)\n* [DaggerfallUnity](https://www.dfworkshop.net/)\n* [OpenMW](https://openmw.org/en/)", "I said he wouldn’t do it on the last video, but here we are.", "Hell yeah America bad upvote me please im so smart and hate reddit me good cool and superior to the rest of yall", "You used to be able to see you're number of downvotes. Reddit has been worse after that change.", "Shit. I fucked up. What do I do now?", "He should try playing chess on a competitive level. No RNG at all(unless he counts who gets to play first by coin toss or something), no dialogue or minimal dialogue if ever at all. There is a color you gotta pick though, so maybe he won't like it.\n\nHell I could be reductive on everything and not just enjoy anything at all. At that point there must be something wrong with me.", "Everyone should get the Chrome extension Return YouTube Dislike.", "It is still ongoing btw. They are still seething to this day lol. It is insane.", "Op I really appreciate how active you are in the comments. You da real mvp today. \n\nMvr?", "Or make it better than it's ever been before...", "> Mvr\n\nWith no idea what that means, yes. Or maybe?\n\nI'm mostly just bored at work.", "This is a donkey Kong video", "My understanding is Persona is more like a dating sim (more light-hearted, character based, building relationships) where SMT is more about things like existential dread and the end of the world.\n\nSMT is like Persona if Persona just focused on the last couple hours, if you get what I mean. You know how the Persona games typically end with an end of the world event? That's like the main story of SMT.\n\nBefore you downvote me if I'm wrong, please just clarify how I'm wrong because I love the Persona games but I heard SMT is a lot more dour. If I'm wrong, please tell me because I need more Persona-esque games in my life.", "A wild Chick Tract reference appeared.", "Finding a bug is like a scientists encountering an unexpected result going \"That's weird\".", "Dunkey's been a bit of a cynic ever since Knack 3 never got announced", "Most valuable redditor. \n\nI really appreciate—again—that you dove right in, consequences be damned.", "Finally someone else who doesn’t think the first game was a perfect masterpiece \n\nIt’s really overrated", "My favorite part is the implication that you still have to explicitly select it even though it’s only one.", "Stop elevating these sexual archetypes in the market! In a Petersonian sense of course.", "Most of the hate surrounding that game doesn't seem to even be related to the game.\n\nWhen I look at the hate Reddit, 90% of it seems to be people screeching about social/political issues. The top post on there a few days ago was people outraged because the game's director didn't put out a tweet celebrating 'international men's day' therefore, that must mean that the developer wants to genocide men lmao.", "Right?!? It's a great game to watch as a movie.", "It's always hard to tell, but I'm pretty sure he was against an easy mode in games like Dark Souls. Fully disagree with that, it's pretty ablest. Although, there are lots of easier video games out there.", "Why do I feel like the TLOU2 part was entirely serious and just buried with the rest of the jokes", "skyrim and oblivion are dogshit games watered down corpses of what Elder Scrolls used to be", "There's legitimate reasons that someone would not like it though.", "Morrowind or bust, buddy", "Video game journalists are literally just gamers who can vaguely write.\n\nThat's why so many of the things they write are stupid. Because gamers are - by a considerable margin- the dumbest group of consumers on the planet. They'll happily spend their life savings on microtransactions, but screech if a game has a gay character lmao", "I disagree", "The fact that gamers still get mad over the fact that dunkey actually liked last of us 2 will never not be funny", "Downside is so many newer games have amazing marketing but are actually awful games. I think BF2042 would have made you really paranoid with that mindset.", "What are you talking about, GFR very clearly made a video on Diddy Kong Racing, they even made comments about the boyfriend's childhood and had references to The Office\n\n\n\n\n^^^^^/s", "I don't think it's bland at all except for the stuff that happens between the card battles.", "Actually, TLOu2's story is pretty homophobic. I say this because Ellie, the main character, got cucked twice.\n\nThe first time when her girlfriend got impregnated and second time was when she, a lesbian, didn't have the balls to get revenge.\n\nSo, in an attempt to relate to Ellie, Neil Cuckmann cucked Ellie with the help of her girlfriend AND her balls(or the lack thereof).", "They’re just laughing at a shit show. To me it says more that someone cares what makes other people happy enough to criticize them.", "Anyone who watched his drama saga knows wmhe doesn't care about Dislikes. Was honestly getting annoyed with his shit posts for awhile", "Entirely wrong, it's a mastapiece.", "I mean you can still gauge the reaction to a video by looking at only the likes. If a video has millions of views but barely a thousand likes. You know that the video was heavily disliked", "These kinds of fun bugs are rare in newer games though, they’re usually either minor annoyances or literally crash your PC/console, nothing in between.", "They're just happy their once a year video isn't disliked into oblivion", "Who are you talking about?", "Lmao as opposed to what? There aren't even many cutscenes", "Like seriously, just read the first 2 - 3 comments of any video and you’ll quickly see if the tutorial is good or not", "Until YT disables them too", "No it’s not", "It's a hallway simulator with shitty combat mechanics and gamer level melodrama, mostly.", "The problem is that it doesn't have a \"violence begets violence\" narrative. If anything it has a \"make sure you get them all so that your violence doesn't come back to bite you\" narrative. And it does the classic fallacy of \"I've killed dozens if not hundreds of people to get to you, but for some reason I can't kill literally the only person I actually explicitly wanted to kill in this situation because then we'll be exactly the same. Somehow.\"\n\nLike to me, the game felt insincere with its theming and pointlessly vindictive towards its own characters.", "Second game has literally the best third-person shooter/stealth gameplay I've ever experienced. First game to top MGS V. People who say it was bad, I need whatever they were smoking. I mean just watch Dunkey's video about it. Dude has a high bar for good gameplay and he loved it.", "Witcher 3 has some of the worst combat I’ve ever seen in a game. Still beat it, but it’s definitely not the perfect masterpiece that gamers and YouTubers will want you to believe", "I just checked, no dislikes either. Definitely a lie.", "I appreciate the confession, but I have a zero-tolerance policy, so I ask that you immediately prosecute yourself to the full extent of your country’s law.", "Finally, the fact checkers arrive.", "I would say 90% of the people who dislike the game dislike it because of Abby.\n\nThe other 10% frankly don't care about Abby at all because the game's issues with theming and just being pointlessly vindictive towards its characters are far, far more glaring issues than any issue of representation could ever be.", "Hmm.. dislike", "That’s the main reason I disliked the game, cause it started the very annoying trend of AAA games (especially Sony exclusives) just being interactive movies instead of actual video games", ">as opposed to what?", "your age has nothing to do with it, you're just dumb.", "Youtube", "Duke Nukem 64", "who?", "Lol ok buddy", "There is an upvote percentage number at the bottom of the post.\n\nAt least reddit is letting us calculate the downvotes, even if it would have been better to display the downvotes beside the upvotes.", "I guess it's on you for not understanding art.", "Oh damn you're right, I forgot that part of the video where they were like \"I'm a girl\"", "Lol ok buddy", "It worked to both extremes for me. At first it was ridiculing the people having meltdowns over it but then it became \"you can't criticize this game cause you get lumped in with the crazies\" and places like gamingcirclejerk used it as an excuse for people to just rail against anything remotely relating to something that nerdy dudes like.", "Oh, you're copy and pasting much like the last of us did.", "maybe just don't worry about it so much", "Nice thing about patient gaming is there's usually a bevvy of lets plays and the like so you can get a real good feel for what the game's like before buy, so much less likely to get a stinker. Though sometimes as you say does happen.", "Lol wut?", "Their meme usage is absolutely on point. Also, don't forget they aren't reviews, they are reviews of what it's like LIVING with someone who plays/watches the games/shows.", "But now it is lol", "Kongtent", "u got druckmann'd chump", "I don't think there were any actual \"serious\" opinions here outside of \"removing dislikes is dumb,\" and was just going through all the hot button topics that get gamers pissed, whether they have merit or not.", "Not only that, they also were able to say during the gameplay video of the game that the pacing with the siwtch midway was a bit....annoying. And I 100% get that, I dind't think it was going to go as long as it did, but I loved it sooo much later on (Also, fuck the Rat King battle...that was the most horrifying and tense boss fight ever).", "Lol I don't follow", "I've heard something like this before.\n\nDunkey 2024???", "I think in the minds of a lot of people the writing, design and content outweighed the gameplay issues. \n\nIt's not perfect, but the things it does well, it does so well that it absolutely distinguishes itself from other games. If your personal preferences make the gameplay issues unacceptable, that is an absolutely reasonable opinion, but not the only valid one.", "Well you should. Like and subscribe, ring that bell etc", "As a long time gamer, I stay off gamer subs because their opinions are always shit. There’s a reason COD and BF are repackaged and sold year after year.", "Shiiit. Not this again.", "I think the beginning is the most sincere, but it gets increasingly satirical after the TLOU2 stuff. The hate he got for his opinions on that game was so completely undeserved.", "Isn't this how all creators, writers, journalists, etc. are? I mean at least the media I consume.", "He somehow figured out how to put out a video every day in December to rake in dough for Christmas, while also taking a half day. Grinding, while slacking.", "I don’t know how I’m supposed to feel without the dislike count", "That’s a very Dunkey username too /u/CrungleMcHungleberry", "And awesome discussion. That's gotta she my favorite sub on reddit.", "This genuinely made me laugh.", "Video game journalists are literally just writers who can vaguely game.\n\nftfy", "Chrome extension Return YouTube Dislike.\nBang its back.", "By making you play as your enemy, and get invested in their story, and then to walk in and see the destruction you wrought through the lens of a person close to them is powerful. That's where you see the violence begets violence. In the first game, Joel kills his way out of the compound. In the second game, Abby hunts him down and kills him in front of you. His violence was the genesis of hers. Hers is the genesis of yours. And as the game progresses the evils you do to each other compounds, and the devs make you see the consequences. Nobody is the bad guy when everyone is the bad guy. The only way to win, is not to play.", "I don't want to demystify the whole thing, but it came from [Key and Peele](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEh0Y0xvFVk)", "Thanks man, glad this was a serious complaint about the system.", "Oh you’d hate Demon’s Souls. \n\nYou might enjoy Returnal? It’s brutally difficult but much more forgiving, and a good PS5 showcase.", "This generation will grow up to be haters and critics of everything and raise children who are the complete opposite and will love everything they hate.\n\nThe circle always completes itself eventually.", "That's the worst part of tlou2. If you hate it it's some kind of shit take on masculinity like you just gave. Nevermind the CW writing, flashbacks of flashbacks of flashbacks of characters who have no relevance, or the shitty pace (looking at you, hospital section). Nope, the only reason someone hates the game is some shitty kotaku buzzfeed twitter take.", "Doesn’t really seem like a super healthy favorite thing about legitimately enjoying a movie", "Yeah but it gets to hide behind some sarkesian bullshit if you ever criticize it.", "Please elaborate, dying to hear the explanation for this", "The music in the bg was a great touch", "^ uh oh someone upset a kotaku kid.", "you've got it accurately. it's a post-apocalyptic game, with a far greater focus on the demons and remnants of the population trying to survive. \n\nthe starting desert area of SMTV for example is actually supposed to be Tokyo 20 years in the future, now a wasteland filled with demons of lore and remnants of modern civilization spread throughout, dead and withered.\n\nalso it's a much stronger gameplay focus, with the systems refined to make battles challenging and strategic on a consistent basis, and in the new one some very well-implemented exploration mechanics that keep you observing every little corner of the map to unlock new powers and better aid your survival. \n\n the steamy part of dunk's whole thing with calling it a ripoff though is Persona spun off from SMT. in fact Persona originally had 'Shin Megami Tensei' before its title to really hammer it in. the easiest way to piss off hardcore SMT fans is calling it a Persona rip lol", "EA has entered the chat", "Whotube?", "There are also chrome extensions available to see it", "You don’t like moving ladders and crouch walking for dozens of hours?", "I loved the game. And it's fine that you didn't. There's no right or wrong when it comes to preference or subjective opinions. But some people put entirely too much emphasis on social issues and not enough on the entertainment aspect.", "So… actually play them and see what you think?\n\nWhat kinda take is this?", "I mean, it's more healthy to enjoy someone being angry at you for enjoying something than it is for them to dedicate a subreddit and hours of their lives to hating it.", "also, there's a [browser extension](https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/return-youtube-dislike/gebbhagfogifgggkldgodflihgfeippi) that lets you see them accurately regardless for the foreseeable future.", "Dislikes were good for avoiding clickbait or deceptive videos. Like if there's a tutorial video or a video about breaking news and it has hundreds of dislikes and no likes it's pretty obvious it's a scam and I can close the video and not waste my time.", "There were quite a few death threats to the showrunners that I remember the mods having to ban users. That sub got nasty real fast.", "Probably means the youtube rewind thing they do every year.", "That’s a great take! And don’t get me wrong, I enjoyed my playthrough very much, I just feel tho the praise is not quite warranted.", "Did you know the second mario brothers wasnt even actually mario 2? Yeah! It was actually a Japanese game called Harry Potter and the Fucking Wizard!", "I liked Witcher 3 despite some of the combat jankiness. Skyrim mechanics were so janky I couldn't do it. Seemed like a super cool world with lots of interesting stories, I just did not enjoy actually playing it at all.", "People just be too critical. It’s a game mostly centered around killing zombies. It’s polished and the gameplay is fun. Give me a break with all this narrative analysis stuff, it’s a video game not a dissertation", "Witcher 3 I'll bet he was serious on", "Oh yeah that was a bad one.", "I get bored too quickly to continue past the first few minutes of either game. I'm not too hard to please either, I played Genshin for a month before it got too grindy for me.", "I don't think anyone praised Witcher 3 for the gameplay or combat mechanics. It's the inverse of Dark Souls. Different game with a different focus. I personally liked them both!", "Do you happen to know what song it was at the end?", "Everyone knows already", "Honestly, like I know this isn't the answer you're looking for. But with Dark Souls. You just have to play it. And IMO, play until you beat the Taurus Demon. Which is the boss of Undeadburg. Undeadburg is the first area after the tutorial.\n\nThe thing about it is that it's not actually THAT hard. It punishes greed and rewards patience and thoughtful play. Now I'm not saying that you won't get frustrated or that that it isn't a difficult game in general. But there is a click. There's a point when the game suddenly makes sense. And to me, and others I've goaded into playing the game, that point is after defeating the first \"real\" boss outside the tutorial.\n\nAnd here's the thing. The game doesn't actually demand the time you might think it does. You can sit down, play for half an hour, and stop, having made meaningful progress. You can pick it up, and set it down. There are no save points. Where you stop the game is where the game brings you when you boot back up(within a minute or two). In this way, the game is long, in that it will take a lot of time to beat. But it doesn't COMMAND your time. You can beat the game in a week or a year. But you don't lose progress for having to do start/stop play sessions.\n\nSo. My recommendation. Bang your head against that brick wall until you beat the Taurus Demon. You might not, and even likely not enjoy the game up to that point. But once you beat Undeadburg and unlock your first shortcut, if you still don't like it, I don't know that you will. But that is the point where I would say you gave the game a really fair chance.\n\nPro Tip. When you get to Firelink Shrine for the first time. You want to go up the stairs. If you see skeletons you went the wrong way.\n\nAlso, Death is not a punishment. It is the game teaching you. Learn to embrace and accept death, not as failure, but as another way not to do a thing.", "Yep, that's my point.", "You get too bored within 15 minutes of like 150 hour RPGs?\n\nlol okay", "Uncharted was doing that nearly half a decade before tlou came out", "FUCK SOMONE NEEDS TO START A COMPETITION TO YOUTUBE BECOUSE IT A HOT STEEMING PILE OF SHIT. I AM WILLING TO MAKE THAT DREAM COME TRUE FOR YA'LLLL JUST SEND ME 5 ZILLION DOLLARS GOOD DAY!", "If you actually pay attention bucko, you would know that he is of Puerto Rican decent. Oooooh", "But you don't understand. Without a Dislike button, how does he know what to think? You can't seriously expect him to use his own brain. He needs to be primed with the publicly accepted opinion first before going in, so he doesn't accidentally arrive at the unpopular and therefore incorrect one.", "steaming", "I also came to mention Chrome extension Return YouTube Dislike. Works like a charm like nothing ever happened. Anyone found anything reliable for Firefox or Edge?", "Lol it's so weird people are so invested in you being wrong that they downvoted you.... Over a video game. What could make someone hate The Witcher 3 so bad? All I can think of is that they have like a hate boner for CDPR . If it's simply they don't like the game, sure whatever, but if you google the reviews for The Witcher 3, it is 99 percent good shit. It's just so weird to deny that reality. Maybe I should run for office under the premise that TW3 is inherently a terrible game lol. Populism is in baby!", "Beeg Donkey", "And Firefly. And Live Die Repeat. And Kpop.", "If I enjoyed the visuals or controls, maybe I could've pushed past the stories I had no interest in like I was able to do with Bayonetta, Devil May Cry, God of War, et. al.", "It reminds me of Papers, Please. I enjoyed watching a speedrun much more than I did playing it.", "Yeah, it's sad really. \n\nI also think that people just want the same old bullshit for ever and ever. Forget about trying different things, taking risks and all of that. Just stick to the same played out formula that's worked 1000 times over. God forbid things change.", "it's almost impossible for me to interact with \"gamers\" at all anymore. way too much toxicity, entitlement, and outrage over everything and absolutely nothing.\n\nall the hubub about yt removing visible dislike counts is a great example. people are literally upset that they aren't going to get the validation from seeing other people upset at the things they're upset about.", "I haven't played the game, all I'm saying is that as a piece of entertainment/art there's always going to be valid reasons for liking or disliking it.\n\nIf someone else dislikes it it doesn't make your liking it wrong, and vice versa.\n\nThere is always a middle ground.", "Try sekiro it's kinda easy I think. You just have to get the rythm down. Boss fights are sometimes hard. But general enemies are easy because you can pick them off from stealth.", "There's Donkey Kong in this video", "Sadly no. I'm getting on in years, and just seeing people crouch for so long makes me weak in the haunches.", "I’ll dislike this post in honor of Donkey Kong December.", "Yeah it took me 3 days to beat Gascoigne in Bloodborne and then about 2 weeks to beat the rest of the game. Once you get a feel for the rhythm of the combat, aggro distances of enemies, and then the other little things, the games get a lot easier.", "watch the whole video, you coward", "Wow, is that actually in the show? Never noticed that...", "It is soooo hard to tell when he's actually serious in his newest videos. It's equally hilarious and frustrating.", "/r/freefolk is actually an AI research sub masquerading as popular culture. Very soon now the Bobby B bot will finally achieve the singularity and can take its rightful place leading humanity into a glorious future.", "Easy. If you agree with him, he's not trolling.", "Nobody in the GoT fandom ever really blamed the actors for anything, it's all D&D's fault and everyone knows it. And as for people that did like the ending... well, not attacking them is easy because they don't exist.", "Alright, but why would Ellie only feel bad about slaughtering people by the hundreds afterwards? If anything she should be choking a random mook to death or stabbing that named dog and realize how stupid she's being.\n\nStopping at 500 instead of 501 just sort of makes you look like an asshole. The kicker is that there's nothing in particular about the scene on the beach that should make her realize that. It's not even provocative of a previous moment, Ellie just starts to have flashbacks for no reason. \n\nThe real moral lesson is that if Joel had just killed all the witnesses of the events in the hospital, 700+ lives would have been saved... And if Abby had finished the job like 200+ fireflies would still be alive. These idiots just keep getting hundreds of people killed because they suddenly feel bad about all their wacky murder sprees when it is the most ineffective and inopportune time. You could even make the claim that leaving a sole survivor in any of these situations is more cruel* because you've basically slaughtered their whole family and left them dead to rights in an apocalypse. You could at least make it quick.", "Uncharted was an action movie, not a drama which translates well to video games. Plus it had good pacing so I never felt bored. \n\nFunny enough, uncharted 4 did suffer from coming after last of us, cause the pacing was terrible and the devs made it more of a drama movie with action set pieces instead of an action movie", "And I played Cyberpunk at launch and it was perfectly fine.\n\nOur experiences aren't everyones experience.", "This chrome extension will help. \n[Return Dislike](https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/return-youtube-dislike/gebbhagfogifgggkldgodflihgfeippi) \n\n\nYou're welcome.", "You can add /r/cyberpunkgame to that too. One of the top posts from last week was literally the salty people in there making a “PSA for New Players” as to why they all still hate the game. They were freaking out that the recent steam reviews from people picking it up from the autumn sale were mostly positive.", "Yep, couldn’t agree more.\n\nWhile we’re on the topic - I’m having mountains of fun with Battlefield 2042. It’s almost cathartic watching so many people crying over it, whilst still playing.", "Technically this isn’t true though, creators can see the dislikes and people are using extensions to see them as well", "Cyberpunk was also fine for me at launch coincidentally lmao", "'Blind haters do be downvotin' this is why I downvoted fyi", "I feel like it was fine for a LOT of people on PC, and some on Consoles but when discussing we always have to put that caveat because most positive discussion about the game gets downvoted to hell. Despite being Mostly Positive on steam for months, and recently becoming Very Positive. Such a weird game to discuss.", "God ol danky kang", "This dude looks like what I imagine when I think of a \"Redditor\".", "Guys I think YouTube removed the dislike button bc EA/DICE paid them to remove it before battleflop 2042 came out so they wouldn’t track dislikes", "imadoiteveryday", "Everyone reddit freaking out about dislikes being removed when reddit did it long long ago", "NMH and Firefly would be hot takes in 2004.\n\nNot sure if many give a shit now.", "Have you played Dragon Quest 11? It's pretty long, but it's a really good game if you're into JRPGs.", "Man, Witcher 1 was a buggy mess. They released an \"Enhanced Edition\" a full year after the original release to fix bugs and add missing features. They gave it away for free to people who bought the original game.\n\nThis has been CDPR's shtick from the very start.", "Watched the whole video. What a solid analysis.", "Agreed. Cyberpunk definitely has flaws, but I genuinely enjoyed the experience the whole way through. On PC at least. It does suck for people who played it on last gen consoles.", "If we left the dislike button who would be there to protect major movie studios, corporations and the white house from the tyranny of the little guy.", "I had 50/50 odds he was gonna end with KNACK 2 BABYYYY", "This further iterates that the only people that actually found TLOU2 amazing were casual players. That mechanic is in hundreds of games and is nothing special.", "lol, He's right. Go over to the tlou2 subreddit, its so hilarious.", "Hey look, a video of trash talking about trash... Most tiktok, streamers, youtubers, etc. in a nutshell now a days.", "while i agree with you for the most part, they were very anti sophie turner (sansa stark), which led to me unsubbing in the first place. iirc, an interview came out where she praised the series finale and they all hated on her as both a person and an actress for it.", "Yes it does, don't force what you got from a game onto others because you're mad they killed off a character you liked.", "The only hottake on Youtube disabling dislikes worth watching.", "Rat King is one of the few times in my time playing games (though I’m not a huge gamer) where I had to just stop and turn it off because I was too scared/anxious haha", "Ahh, you're getting hung up in the gameplay mechanics vs the story. Those deaths have to happen to keep you playing. Be a pretty fucking boring game otherwise. It's the story arc characters that actually matter and in that sense there really wasn't hundreds killed. Most of the deaths are just fodder trying to kill you. I get what you're saying about the gross casualties, I do. The reality is that they're not relevant to the story. The story is about Ellie and Abby wanting to destroy each other, very cruelly I might add, and forcing you to see the violence and the consequences of your actions first hand from the other's perspective. The number of bodies is inconsequential, the resolution between the two mains is while important, is only part of the story. The story is everything together. Happiness is fragile. Vengeance is no path to walk. And take time to play the guitar.", "So...you don't know if there are legitimate reasons, hahahahaha. Goddamn lol", "Say I wont do it, say I wont do it, say I wont do it imma do it every day", "> The number of bodies is inconsequential\n\nYou can't write TLOU1 to avoid this ludo-narrative dissonance, with Joel just being an admitted asshole who's willing to kill people (and doesn't even change at the end of the game), and then write the second game with a \"violence breeds violence\" message, and then not even attempt to lampshade this. That's the issue. That's the hangup people have. Uncharted games are supposed to be the only Naughty Dog games where you can say something like that.", "I'm still waiting on a Dunkview for Metroid dread because I have no fucking clue what he actually thinks about that game", "I heard KNACK 3: Back in Knack™ is going to be a ground breaking, multiplayer oriented experience. The maps will apparently be 4 dimensional, extending into real life through AR coloring books. The AR KNACKBOOKS™ will have NFTs built in which activate on a 100% completion of the game in order to generate never ending KNACK bux for the user😍😍😍😍👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 in exchange for allowing the game publisher to harness your systems power for mining crypto currency.\n\nI already preordered three separate editions. Check mate society. I figured it out, praise be to Dunkles for spreading the love of KNACK everywhere he goes. Knack bless that black man.", "He's also the first black strand-type youtuber.", "This is a perfect example of a comment that makes me feel like I played a totally different game than lots of other people. Ellie's arc felt completely earned, throughout the entire course of the game you see Ellie do worse and worse shit, and begin to question it. Torturing the girl at the hospital, her killing Mel, etc... There are tonnes of conversations in game with her companions that show how detached she's become from her friends, and (to me at least), you witness the weight of the violence on her throughout the game. These themes are even in Abby's entire Seattle arc, and Owen has a similar story with the old Seraphite. \n\nYou can argue that the game wasn't as effective at this as they should have been (if anything, they probably could have been more subtle), but I have a hard time connecting with the criticism that her final choice came out of nowhere.", "They can now much more easily claim they hide videos based on the like/dislike ratio and just completely fucking lie about it. They also want to punish the internet for bullying their shit videos.", "\"stop playing like a journalist\" is the best roast I've ever read on here", "As stupid as the decision is... You just compared a fucking function on a website to oxygen...\n\nMy dude 😐", "Did you know that the Last of Us 2 has the highest completion rate of any major PS4 exclusive? It's a long game too, so you can make a pretty safe correlation that the vast majority really enjoyed it. Maybe only the True Gamers™ are those who put the game down in disgust, but considering its large sales numbers, I really doubt that. Especially since it's a pretty bleak, heavy game that would probably turn away many of these lesser casual players. Odds are that the hate echo chamber is a very loud minority.", "I picked up the Witcher, the intro was too boring, i Turned it off for like 6 months tried it again. Got past the intro into some little town and I just still felt like I was forcing myself. Nah", "So what you're saying is that this game must be universally liked by everyone and there's no conceivable reason that anyone could dislike it?", "There's no telling what this mad man will do next", "> and that’s pretty much the only place to talk about the world that we spent a LOT of time in\n\nOr just read the books and endlessly discuss crazy fan theories on the main sub.\n\nThe real answer is embrace our lord and savior Brandon Sanderson.", "Yeah, only dumb casuals like a game like TLOU part 2.\n\nVery insightful", "I fucking loved that movie...\n\nTony, get the boulder", "I miss Jakey :( Any idea why he hasn't uploaded or tweeted anything in over a year?", "🎵Donkey Kong December🎵", "> Those deaths have to happen to keep you playing... The number of bodies is inconsequential\n\nUndertale called. If you haven't played it, I'd highly recommend it.", "I think we have different definitions of \"technically\"", "Try playing around in the easier stage. Toy with the beginner enemies and just get rreeeaaallllllllyyyyy good at dodging.", "Completely agree. The Last of Us Part 2 is a masterpiece through and through, and probably the best single play experience I've ever had. Fuck the echo chamber assholes who hate it because that's what the hivemind told them to say.", "And you know what? A lot of the time what he thinks is funny ends up being pretty damn funny to most people", "As someone that likes TLJ, I can also say I hate that you have to deal with that, and I hope there's a day that comes when you can express your opinions on it without having to immediately disassociate yourself from the crazies. Some Star Wars fans pride themselves on being absolutely miserable assholes, and they've made the discourse so fucking tiresome that I'm much more inclined to talk with people who have genuine reasons to hate what they hate.", "Is the music from Banjo Kazooie/Banjo Tooie? I cant place it...", "Personally I don't get how someone would put Cyberpunk at the same level as TLOU2. I felt that the former's story is just generic and bland compared to the thought-provoking story in TLOU2. But of course, that's just IMO.", "You said dumb. Not me.", "I haven't played much of anything in recent years. Last of us 2 and some Hitman.", "/r/thelastofus is the one true sub to rule them all.", "Yeah last gen was their biggest mistake. They released the game right in the transition phase between console generations while the game couldn't even run properly on the last, but they could never tell their shareholders that. In hindsight they should've released it on next-gen and PC first and dropped it on last-gen about a year or two later, but they probably made too many promises towards their shareholders as well so they couldn't do that (not after delaying it for over a year after preorders started) and now the damage is already done. I bought the game for €30 on sale, but because of the bad press I can never see other people buying it for the full €60.\n\nThe game is really really good but most people wil never see it that way.", "He's analyzing the gameplay though. The review bombing and long lasting hatred is supposedly due to the story. And it totally has nothing to do with homophobic gamergate incels.", "Why can't they?", "He's not ready for Knack", "They did it for 1. They didn't for 2. This conversation is why people didn't like the writing in 2.", "Are game journalists generally bad at playing games, or are we still making jokes about the business journalist who struggled with Cuphead?", "peterson is a dumb and cringe-inducing benzo addicted buffoon who lost a fight to apple juice", "Dunkey's at the top of his game. This is like living through the age of Michelangelo.", "They're gamers who can't game but are good at making an article long enough to put 12 ads on the page", "That was hilarious", "Idk if it's the same Bobby B bot from r/lotrmemes but Gandalf bot is vastly superior.", "Everyone beat it because the game literally holds your hands the whole way. Its more like an interactive movie than any real kind of challenging game. So it makes sense that the millions of causal players actually went through this game all the way. Its not that long at all. Its like 20 hr game. Oh wow its bleak and heavy story, neat, join the club. I dont hate it, its just not the 10/10 Masterpeice everyone here is circle jerking themselves off to.", "Dislikes only matter in terms of increasing engagement. Engagement increases the visibility of the video.\n\nThe most negative thing you can do to a video is to not watch it. The second most negative thing you can do to a video is to not comment on it. The third most negative thing you can do to a video is to neither like it nor dislike it.\n\nDisliking videos only ever increased engagement.", "I was in the same boat a few years ago, i really liked watching my little brother playthrough dark souls 3 and tried to get into it but just found it a pain in the ass. I bought dark souls remastered and gave in and looked at a few good builds and put a little spin on them and finally beat it and the DLC's last month. Idk if this might help but i wanted to share.", "> don't get how someone would put Cyberpunk at the same level as TLOU2\n\nWell I didn't haha. All I said was that I loved playing Cyberpunk while it gets a lot of undeserved hate (although the devs/publisher deserve it), but I didn't compare it to any other game. I gave like 5 reasons why it isn't perfect ha. \n\nTLOU2 is probably the best game I've ever played. I probably won't play Cyberpunk again until they release some decent DLC while every couple of months I replay both TLOU games.\n\nE: y'all really going to downvote every comment in which I say CP2077 isn't a bad game? That's the point of this discussion. CD Projekt Red fucked up big time but the game itself isn't bad.", "Yea and jack in the box at 2am is fine when nothing else is open", "I disagree. But I totally get what you mean. I think that says something about the game being objectively a good game", "I wouldn’t mind a difficulty option in Souls games. I keep wanting to play them and try them but my time is limited and they’re too punishing. I simply don’t have time to get killed 20 times by the same boss and have to spend 5 minutes getting back to them each time.", "He's probably expecting bad puns, stale memes and out-of-context rants from lunatics.\n\nThis is Reddit, after all.", "He was unironically right about TLOU2, CDPR and skyrim. \n\nAt least they fixed witcher3. \n\nSkyrim still trash", "Except Witcher 3 in a restaurant analogy is a 3 Michelin star world-class restaurant with excellent service and fantastic food. By far the best game I've ever played.", "And Wind Waker.", "His [Balan Wonderworld video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aX5rs0jjkw8) from this year is one of his best ever IMO", "Donkey Kong December. Donkey Kong December. Donkey Kong December. Donkey Kong December.", "You're both right. \n\nHe's right in the sense that it takes a lot more work typing 7 letters and clicking submit than it does simply clicking dislike. That's a 700% increase in work performed.\n\nYou're right in the sense that typing 7 letters and clicking submit is not a lot of work. However, I suppose if you're depressed and can barely muster the will to live, that might seem like a monumental task.", ">\"You should 'Like' this comment if you 'Dislike' this video.\"", "I don't even like Joel, and actually him shooting his way out of the hospital finally catching up to him was the high point of the game for me. But that doesn't make the games theme suddenly work.", "If you liked Fallen Order and particularly liked the parrying, you'll probably like Sekiro. I played Fallen Order after Sekiro and it was like Sekiro on easy mode. In Fallen Order (if I remember correctly) you only had to parry once to stumble an enemy but sekiro's whole combat system is based off of parrying multiple hits in succession to wear down posture. \n\nFor what it's worth, I loved dark souls but rage quit the game on a certain boss. Beating sekiro peaked my interest in dark souls again and I'm having a much easier time now.\n\nSekiro is probably one of my favorite games and the only one I have gotten all achievements for on Steam, the combat is so damn satisfying once you get the hang of it. It's hard but I think it's worth it!", "Temporarily", "> I find it weird that its never really brought up as a deal breaker for the witcher, or bethesda games, or borderlands 2, etc, but it is for Cyberpunk for some reason.\n\n[Because it was used as a selling point for the game.](https://youtu.be/vjF9GgrY9c0?t=776)", "> Idk if it's the same Bobby B bot from r/lotrmemes but Gandalf bot is vastly superior.\n\nThis is the Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny echoes in the distance", "Has that actually been your experience? They’re not that bad.", "If you liked Fallen Order and particularly liked the parrying, you'll probably like Sekiro. I played Fallen Order after Sekiro and it was like Sekiro on easy mode. In Fallen Order (if I remember correctly) you only had to parry once to stumble an enemy but sekiro's whole combat system is based off of parrying multiple hits in succession to wear down posture. \n\nFor what it's worth, I loved dark souls but rage quit the game on a certain boss. Beating sekiro peaked my interest in dark souls again and I'm having a much easier time now.\n\nSekiro is probably one of my favorite games and the only one I have gotten all achievements for on Steam, the combat is so damn satisfying once you get the hang of it. It's hard but I think it's worth it!", "Freefolk is great, unless you happened to be disabled.\n\nThen prepare to read the most awful shit, about how useless you are as a person and you don't matter because your legs don't work.\n\nIt wouldn't be bad if they stuck to strictly talking about Bran's story, but no it always has to devolve into some shit about him being crippled.\n\nIt's amazing to see people defend it as if it's not toxic.", "“If the first page of this Pulitzer winning novel had been more interesting maybe I would have kept reading.”\n\nI mean shit bud at least read a chapter.\n\n(side note: the visuals and controls in bayonetta are both dumpster water)", "I felt like Demon’s Souls was the easiest out of all the ones I’ve played so far. The levels are broken up into bite sized areas and each boss seems to have a gimmick to beating it instead of just getting good. I’d give it a shot if I were you and then take what you learn and apply it to Dark Souls to try that again.", "YouTubers delete comment fyi.", "I agree with him on almost everything so who knows\n\nWitcher 3 = trash\n\n\nSkyrim = Trash \n\nthe dark souls bit was a joke, dark souls should be harder", "I guess I should clarify that it is hard lol I played Fallen Order after Sekiro and put it on the hardest difficulty allowed to make it comparable to Sekiro. So if you're just not in the mood for a hard game then maybe pass but I highly recommend playing it. I wish I could beat some of those bosses for the first time again!", "It really is! I mean just look at the like to dislike ratio. Incredible", "I agree with everything he said.", "Nah, anyone that knows won't get mad because they can see the irony plain as day.", "It's truly an exhausting fanbase to exist in. I've enjoyed a lot of the new Star Wars stuff since Disney bought it, but have largely disassociated with most of the discussion around it because some people are disgustingly vitriolic about their opinions.", "Donkey Kong is really cool and I think there should be more.", "Copy pasta I found on 4chan.", "Or, you know, to kill the other guy. \n\nLet me recontextualize for you:\n\nThe genesis of Abbey's violence was Joel not fully following through on murdering a bunch of civilians and not clearing out the entire hospital. The genesis of Ellie's violence is Abby not killing her when she had the chance. And if Ellie decides to just kill Abbey at the end? That's it that's the end of the cycle. The only person left alive who would conceivably try to take revenge for Abbey is conveniently unconscious in a boat like 20 ft away. That's your win right there. \n\nThe \"only winning move is not to play\" line only works on situations where there is literally no conceivable action which will result in victory. War Games gets away with it because fundamentally that's what nuclear war is - when you have 90,000 nukes between you, even the smartest AI in the world can't create a scenario where either side comes out the other end as anything more than a lifeless wasteland. In TLOU2, though, the solution is clear: if you're going to kill someone, finish the job. Don't let anyone else survive.", "Most of the hate for cyberpunk is based off of the undelivered promises. The story for the three backgrounds is way more similar than it was meant to be, some things are poorly implemented, like the police spawning in directly behind you when you commit crimes, etc. I still had fun, but I can see the hate for it. TLOU2 on the other hand was a masterpiece", "Short answer, no.", "The farmer dance number still leaves me speechless", "His video “I’m Done Making Good Videos” marks the point where I stopped being able to tell when he’s joking or not. Now his videos have all the humor of a serious discussion of the video game industry, with the insightfulness of his improv goofs.", ">Most of the hate for cyberpunk is based off of the undelivered promises.\n\nAgreed and the fact that they should have released it on last-gen like one or two years later. The game itself could have used more development time. Often the game feels empty and really unpolished. Everything that should make an open world game an open world game wasn't finished, like the police. But all things considered it was still a really enjoyable game.\n\n>TLOU2 on the other hand was a masterpiece\n\nSuper agreed.", "The second Witcher is a masterpiece in every way.", "The latter", "This is a dangerous path. Dunkey must be stopped now.", "Boring troll is boring 🤭😴", "I figured that was the case. It might have been funny the first time, but it just feels repetitive now. He writes about the business side of games, of course he sucks at them.", "They did? uses Comment Search and ctrl+f I can't see it.", "Shin megami tensei spawned persona lol.", "yes to make the point that not actively caring about something is not a justification for removing it.", "> its just not the 10/10 Masterpeice everyone here is circle jerking themselves off to.\n\nI actually agree with this, but come on guy, don't embarrass yourself with all that \"casual gamer\" talk. It's a pretty long game, which means it takes a level of commitment to play. Anyone who spends money on a game and finishes it is just as valid as someone who completes Bloodborne. And TLOU2 can be a very challenging game at even the standard difficulty, and the gameplay is actually super tight. I think it's safe to say that it definitely has some of the better action/stealth core gameplay around.", "Freefolkwas made to discuss the first 5 episodes of Season 5 of GoT which leaked early. I believe HBO contacted the /r/gameofthrones mods and got them to ban any discussion of leaked episodes. People moved to /r/freefolk due to their motto \"we do not kneel\".", "You overestimate JRPG fans lmao", "I am here to say he is absolutely right about TLOU2, maybe not GOAT, I haven't played every game, but one of the best stories I have seen in a videogame, same level as RDR2 or Planescape Torment. Imagine not being to enjoy games because of womz and gays PepeLaugh.", "Roll a bunch which grants you invincibility. Google bosses and maps you get lost on. I’d say that should do the trick.", "This was a game I absolutely loved and highly praised. However, I can never go back to playing it again as it emotionally wrecked me in such a way that only one playthrough was good enough for me, especially as I spent around 45 hours on it. I love that people can go through multiple runs and find so many little touches and nuances throughout their experiences, but man, it's an extremely heavy game to get through mentally and emotionally.", "No that is just Dunkey. If you've followed him for a while you can make a pretty calculated guess. But these days even us fans are clueless. He's like reached a next level of trolling and sarcasm\n\nIn doing so he actually makes people spew out their real feelings because they don't really understand what his opinions are.\n\nDunkey probably doesn't want his fans to be opinionated by his videos. That's why he's making them confusing.\n\nThat said, he loved TLOU2, he hated Witcher 3, he's mentioned before in streams/podcast he doesn't like open world games of this sort. But the from software argument is partly right and partly wrong (which is the reason he makes it sound troll). Because again, in streams/podcasts he's said before how hard Sekiro/Bloodborne was but that doesn't particularly mean he wants a easy mode. Like all of us he has a love hate relationship with these games.", "This video is great, but the idea that the Witcher 3 was some putrid, broken mess of bugs is just flat out wrong. However I have decided to forgive Dunkey in the spirit of Donkey Kong December", "Honestly, Demon Souls is more punishing than Dark Souls. I’d still suggest trying Dark Souls for a bit longer since it’s more about knowing attack patterns and when it’s safe to attack rather than lightning fast reaction speeds, but it’s not a game for everyone regardless.", "Skyrim? As in The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim developed and published by Bethesda Games? \n\nWow, that award-winning title just recently released its Anniversary Edition for PS5, XBSX, and PC! I already own 37 copies of the game, but I’ll be sure to pick up the legendary latest installment to The Elder Scrolls franchise, which includes exclusive Special Edition and Creation Club content!", "That was a misunderstanding, he just once watched a putto Rican play the computer game Descent", "Videogamedunkey does a decent review of the game and it looks really difficult. A basic mechanic in the game is if you die, then when you re-spawn you only get half your health bar", "Life's too short to waste time on things you don't enjoy. If you're able to appreciate something I cannot, that doesn't make either of us wrong.", "You're gonna make the library cry", "No u", "Jump scare video are back on the menu, you could read the comments first and risk spoiling yourself hahaha.", "🎵Donkey Kong December🎵", "[softly] Don't", "Dunk strikes again", "I give a shit about Firefly and Live Die Repeat. But I’m not the kind to downvote someone just because I disagree, so maybe I don’t count.", "wtf", "Game freak understands this perfectly.", "I have to say one thing. As broken as Cyberpunk was (and still is in lot of ways), I was able to play it on release, on hardest difficulty, finish every single mission and side quest, it took me 130h but I had fun because the game was still challenging until like last 5-10 hours when I was extremely overpowered and the game stopped bing challenging. On the other hand, I have replayed Skyrim like dozen times over the past decade, probably more, but it always goes like: \n\nFirst 15-20h: Omg this game is so much fun, why did I ever stop playing it, this time I'll complete it.\n\n35-50h: Ok this is not fun, everything just dies to one hit, I need to tweak the difficulty....omg everything has like million health, fuck the quests I need to get good weapons and improve blacksmithing and enchanting.\n\n60-70h: Ok, I have good gear and I can take on everything, but all the quest rewards I am getting are crap, unique deadra weapon, oh wow, what a junk compared to my enchanted sword...\n\nAnd it keeps going like this, I keep fiddling with different mods to fix it, until I kinda forget about the game and start playing something else. I've tried so many modpacks and balancing mods but they all kinda fail. As much as I love TES, the most basic RPG gameplay loop (kill enemies, get reward, level up) is fundamentally broken in Oblivion and Skyrim. As much as Fallout 4 story was a mess, I was able to play and enjoy the game from beginning to the end because the gameplay was still challenging and rewarding right until the end. As much as the \"Gamers\" will bitch and moan, I really hope they rewamp the leveling and item systems in some way for TES 6, I want to just sit back and play the game, not fix their broken mess.", "Yeah he's seemed to move away from reviews, but pretty much every negative review he did he would have something that was intentionally misrepresented to make the game look bad.", "Don't forget r/titanfolk.\n\nThat place was great, and then the final chapter of the manga came out and a switch flipped. Everyone still making upvoted memes was making one about how much the ending and the author sucked. I didn't like the ending, but it wasn't 24/7-memes-cycle-shitting-on-the-author bad. I unsubscribed and I haven't looked back.", "Maybe he'll do it....", "That’s the joke!", "It was also used as a selling point for the Witcher 3 and Skyrim etc. that’s why I used them as examples. And honestly, in comparison to most other open world rpgs, it feels way more lived in.\n\nIt’s clearly crap compared to GTA, I’m not trying to contest that. But it’s still in the upper tier for RPGs", "Lewl", "Ngl I disliked it. He told me to", "Those NPC are part of the game mechanics. It’s pretty easy to separate the story from the gameplay. Every game does this.", "> By making you play as your enemy, and get invested in their story\n\nWould've been nice if this actually worked for me, I have to say. The game didn't manage to make me give a shit about Abby, so half the game I was just annoyed that I have to play as this character that I don't care about, and the other half I was lamenting about missed opportunities and what they could've done with the story instead of this.", "you are grossly overestimang non gamers\n\nthe degenerates who went to watch endgame over and over and over again to make it the biggest movie ever 100% would drop their money on garbage pointless microtransations in marvel movies\n\nhave you ever seen a star wars or a harry potter fan? movies and other media look better in comparison, but only because the technology isn't there yet, not because gamers are uniquely stupid", "2042 is dope actually", "Well no, not every game does that. And a few have even explicitly called attention to it. Other bad games doing the same thing does not justify ludonarrative dissonance. It is very much a problem.", "I've never heard any praise for these games beyond \"It's hard!\" Do these games have interesting and original lore? An emotionally satisfying story? Really satisfying gameplay mechanics (besides death)? Amazing graphics? Incredible sound design? Wouldn't know, all anyone ever talks about is how hard they are and how that's a good thing.", "Look if you don't have fun with those games then don't play them. But \"not having time to get good\" is not a real excuse. Sure maybe you aren't satisfied with the progress you make in the time you have but if you keep playing you will naturally get better. Other games may provide easier chunks of gameplay that you find more satisfying to quickly progress through but the time frame doesn't change between games. But play what's fun to you. I personally love the worlds they create and don't mind a challenge even if I'm shit at it. All of my worst Souls fight failures have lead to the sweetest victories I've experienced in video gaming. Souls games don't come down to getting good it's all about accepting failure and having patience. Love you.", "All 3 of those subs were created because the main ones wouldn't allow leaks or spoilers. Has everyone forgotten when Sony was issuing illegal takedowns left and right for TLOU2 leaks? That was a huge issue at the time. https://youtu.be/ScpPzFQRG7o", "Not really", "Witcher 3 at launch was perfectly fine for a lot more people than Cyberpunk was.", "Life is also too short to dismiss experiences that are not instantly gratifying. A lot of brilliant and moving experiences require a little patience.", "How am I embarrassing myself for calling people causal gamers? Its not meant as an offense. I'm just pointing out that people are praising this game for having nothing special, which is just a trait of someone who hasn't played through many games. The gameplay is ok. Its the same from the first one which even then was not breaking any new ground from better cover-shooter or stealth games already out at the time. The setting and story is what carried it. The second one, not so much.", "Did you know that if Abby killed Ellie at the movie theater, Abby would have died on the Pillars?\n\ninteresting to think about.", ">people are using extensions to see them as well\n\nOnly until youtube closes that function in their API, which is coming.", "So? Random acts of violence and cycles of violence are completely different things.", "Well, not necessarily (butterfly effect and all that), but I get your point.", "Abby's mercy saved her own life.", "Me neither. I watch them for the Donkey Kong.", "I mean, there are plenty of videos that would explain those reasons way better than a reddit comment. Here are some if you're actually interested:\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCYMH-lp4oM\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xa9oEroGDQc\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5bw4CmLZcY\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-sTlYUeT8o\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GB20A8CitRU\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfJABAlky1s\n\nAnd many others.", "If you actually pay attention bucko, you would know that he is the first Puerto Rican strand-type youtuber.", "Strand-type donkey Kongtent", "That extension is going to stop working in a bit. It relies on Youtube's API, which they are going to change soon.", "This", "Say I won't do it\n\nSay I won't do it\n\nSay I won't do it with a baseball bat", "Probably not tbh.", "Welp... I enjoyed the gameplay/graphics/animations & no doubt the polish for Part: II (Kudos to programmers/voice actors, music dept). Story was thematically a nice concept, but whack in execution.\n\nThis (beautifully illustrated/concept art) interview by WA. Po in 2020, [the Evolution of Ellie](https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/video-games/news/the-last-of-us-part-2-ellie-evolution/), summarizes the gist/influence for part II\n\n* fun segway... Neil wanted to do this in the 1st game, but couldn't because it's hard to establish (see the [AmA in 2013](https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1ykno8/hi_were_neil_druckmann_creative_director_and/) w/ Bruce & Neil, or the [wiki Tess/villain](https://unpublished-villains.fandom.com/wiki/Tess_(The_Last_of_Us))\n\n>The formulation for Ellie’s turn toward darkness can be traced back to the year 2000. Then in his early 20s, Druckmann witnessed news footage of a crowd lynching two Israeli soldiers in the West Bank. “And then they cheered afterward,” Druckmann, who grew up in Israel, recalls. “It was the cheering that was really chilling to me. … In my mind, I thought, ‘Oh, man, if I could just push a button and kill all these people that committed this horrible act, I would make them feel the same pain that they inflicted on these people.’\"\r \n\r \nThe feeling faded, though. Eventually, he looked back and felt “gross and guilty” for his intense feelings. With “The Last of Us Part II,” he wanted to explore that emotional tumult on a didactic level.\r \n\r \n“I landed on this emotional idea of, can we, over the course of the game, make you feel this intense hate that is universal in the same way that unconditional love is universal?” Druckmann says. “This hate that people feel has the same kind of universality. You hate someone so much that you want them to suffer in the way they’ve made someone you love suffer.”--ND (Evolution of Ellie, Wapo 2020)\n\nAnyways... overall the plot beats are alright but there's (keyword) \"a lot\" elements of plot armor/convenience that beats out the immersion, coupled w/ for me the characters old/new are treated cheaply:\n\n* For plot conveniences (it's debatable).. but it's there so I'm just gonna mention a few I find odd\n * e.g. how the find Joel so fast & w/ small hesitation, \n * how Ellie & Dina did has so much armor (surviving the horse blast, then 'scarface' Jordan, Abby's theater) as so do Abby (somehow gets the map left by Ellie?, the no guns approach from Ellie/Tommy with their choice of wooden hits, and a teleporting Yara who saved her after an amputation?)\n* Ofc.. With the violence between them (even though it is a VG). There's a heightened ludo-narrative dissonance for part II.\n * Most in Ellie's (n Tommy) gameplay... she killed so much of the WLF team (Nick, Jordan, Nora, Mel, Owen, Manny, Whitney... the doggos) on top of the NPCs.\n * In contrast to Abby's whoop-ass/more fun, almost guilt-free campaign. With the doggo petting, rat-king, seraphite island takeover. \n * Abby's feel like Ellie/Joel in part 1 (for survival)... in which it's just a cheap feeling that the writers skews you more to Abby than Ellie (given how many flashbacks they try to pull).\n * Abby's path was redemption... slowly through Lev (letting it go) & finding the Fireflies. Well.. Ellie's too, but mostly feels like she's burnt toast\n* Lastly... the characters (and especially side-characters) felt like they had no agency, mostly to support the arc then nothing. Underutilized per se.. like how they easily forgotten Jesse, heck Jackson, Isaac and the rest of the deceased WLF\n * I guess it's a artistic choice.. not everything has to be on char. dev.; but I find it hard pressed that the cast wasn't as memorable/growing as part 1s (e.g. Tess, Bill, Henry and Sam, David, Marlene etc..) \n\nWelp.. that's mostly my gripe in the narrative, still fantastic production & voice acting. Sorry for long-reply", "Bruh it’s drama mondays and among us tuesdays. \nIf you don’t know that then you are fake gamer!", "I liked cyberpunk too, and had a lot of fun playing it. But I straight up refuse to believe you didn't experience any bugs. I reinstalled it a couple of weeks ago and the game is still so broken. Doesn't mean it can't be fun, but it's still full of bugs.", "Neither have 95% of the people who bought and played this game, lmfao", "From a person who then immediately tries to murder her. And before you say anything, no, Abby sparing Ellie doesn't in any way affect Ellie's decision to spare her, it's literally just that plot contrivance of a flashback. Which comes after gunning down literally hundreds of other people just to get the chance to kill this one woman. But since none of them are important to the plot, I guess they just don't matter at all. \n\nI mean fuck, games 10 years older than this one have already told the exact same story but without contradicting their own themes several times over, and without any ludonarrative dissonance.", "I mean, you clearly used it in a negative manner to criticize the game.\n\nAnd even if it is a casual game (which it obviously isn't lmao), so what? What's wrong with a larger, more casual audience enjoying a game? Even most \"hardcore\" games build on existing mechanics. There are very few mechanics in say, Sekiro, that are unique, but no one would call it casual. So many great \"hardcore audience\" games are this way, but you're a real gamer, so you are obviously aware of this.", "Says the person that wants to counter claim criticism of the main game with dlc as an argument, lmfao", "Yeah thats the dark part of it. I'm curious purely of tech side of it.", "I got an ending. Don’t be pedantic, are you saying I need to get all endings in order to beat the game?", "Our life experiences have clearly been different. I'll consider myself blessed to have been able to fully appreciate everything I enjoy.", "Well.. if people actually wanted a rant. Here's mine (copied/subjective)\n\nI enjoyed the gameplay/graphics/animations & no doubt the polish for Part: II (Kudos to programmers/voice actors, music dept). Story was thematically a nice concept, but whack in execution.\n\nThis (beautifully illustrated/concept art) interview by WA. Po in 2020, [the Evolution of Ellie](https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/video-games/news/the-last-of-us-part-2-ellie-evolution/), summarizes the gist/influence for part II\n\n* fun segway... Neil wanted to do this in the 1st game, but couldn't because it's hard to establish (see the [AmA in 2013](https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1ykno8/hi_were_neil_druckmann_creative_director_and/) w/ Bruce & Neil, or the wiki [Tess/villain](https://unpublished-villains.fandom.com/wiki/Tess_(The_Last_of_Us))\n\n>The formulation for Ellie’s turn toward darkness can be traced back to the year 2000. Then in his early 20s, Druckmann witnessed news footage of a crowd lynching two Israeli soldiers in the West Bank. “And then they cheered afterward,” Druckmann, who grew up in Israel, recalls. “It was the cheering that was really chilling to me. … In my mind, I thought, ‘Oh, man, if I could just push a button and kill all these people that committed this horrible act, I would make them feel the same pain that they inflicted on these people.’\" \n \n> \n>The feeling faded, though. Eventually, he looked back and felt “gross and guilty” for his intense feelings. With “The Last of Us Part II,” he wanted to explore that emotional tumult on a didactic level. \n> \n>“I landed on this emotional idea of, can we, over the course of the game, make you feel this intense hate that is universal in the same way that unconditional love is universal?” Druckmann says. “This hate that people feel has the same kind of universality. You hate someone so much that you want them to suffer in the way they’ve made someone you love suffer.”*--ND (Evolution of Ellie, Wapo 2020)\n\n \nAnyways... overall the plot beats are alright but there's (keyword) \"a lot\"* elements of plot armor/convenience that beats out the immersion, coupled w/ for me the characters old/new are treated cheaply:\n\n* For plot conveniences (it's debatable).. but it's there so I'm just gonna mention a few I find odd\n * e.g. how the find Joel so fast & w/ small hesitation,\n * how Ellie & Dina did has so much armor (surviving the horse blast, then 'scarface' Jordan, Abby's theater) as so do Abby (somehow gets the map left by Ellie?, the no guns approach from Ellie/Tommy with their choice of wooden hits, and a teleporting Yara who saved her after an amputation?)\n* Ofc.. With the violence between them (even though it is a VG). There's a heightened ludo-narrative dissonance for part II.\n * Most in Ellie's (n Tommy) gameplay... she killed so much of the WLF team (Nick, Jordan, Nora, Mel, Owen, Manny, Whitney... the doggos) on top of the NPCs.\n * In contrast to Abby's whoop-ass/more fun, almost guilt-free campaign. With the doggo petting, rat-king, seraphite island takeover.\n * Abby's feel like Ellie/Joel in part 1 (for survival)... in which it's just a cheap feeling that the writers skews you more to Abby than Ellie (given how many flashbacks they try to pull).\n * Abby's path was redemption... slowly through Lev (letting it go) & finding the Fireflies. Well.. Ellie's too, but mostly feels like she's burnt toast\n* Lastly... the characters (and especially side-characters) felt like they had no agency, mostly to support the arc then nothing.\n * Underutilized per se.. like how they easily forgotten Jesse, heck Jackson, Isaac and the rest of the deceased WLF\n * I guess it's a artistic choice.. not everything has to be on char. dev.; but I find it hard pressed that the cast wasn't as memorable/growing as part 1s (e.g. Tess, Bill, Henry and Sam, David, Marlene etc..)\n\nWelp.. that's mostly my gripe in the narrative, still fantastic production & voice acting. Sorry for long-reply", "I always play on easy because I just want video games to be like an action movie where I'm controlling the main character. the main character doesn't lose... he's the main character.", "Holy shit flash backs to watching my dad play descent. Those games were cool", "🎵Donkey Kong December🎵", "$70 interactive movie, lmfao", "Shut up nerd.", "Shit dude you must not have played many games.\n\nThe Witcher 3 base game is really on par with dark souls 2.", "The top comment is \n\n>This has gotta be one of his most cathartic videos of all time\n\nPosted an hour before the parent comment on reddit", "Hint: those people also play video games. Almost everyone does these days.\n\nMaking your entire personality that you are a gamer (literay \"all I do is consume this one type of media\") is horribly cringe, and will always be.\n\nLike playing games? Cool, most do. Being s \"gamer\"? Horribly goddamn cringe go get a personality.", "Someone from that sub sent death threats to himself and tried to blame Girlfriend Reviews. They're fucking insane. \n\nI wasn't a huge fan of the game either but holy fuck, move on.", "Nope just that people got scammed that much for that garbage, lmfao", "This don't matter, none of this matters", "I don't know, I've never met a person who would actually identify as a gamer, sounds like a strawman", "Oh boy, we reached the end of the dialog tree! Let's just say dumb random shit now, lmfao", "I'm gonna go kinda against the grain of (most of) the rest of the comments and say that Demon's Souls is comfortably the easiest of all the Souls/like games. Partly this is because most bosses and areas simply don't present as much of a challenge as the newer games, partly it's because of stuff like super OP healing through abundant grass and blessed weapons and etc. The combat is just a smidge slower and \"clunkier\" than the newer Souls games, especially DkS3, but still has a good flow to it and is improved a lot in the remake. DeS is also pretty short, probably one of the shortest Souls games. It does not require much \"twitch reaction\" gameplay, it is very much methodical except in some occasional, mostly unscripted, moments.\n\nOverall I think it is definitely one of the best games to get into the series with as it's a) extremely forgiving in most ways by comparison, and b) has one of the most straightforward and directly engaging storylines of any of the games. (As opposed to the very vague mystique and eldritch nonsense and hidden motivations and etc. for most of the others.)\n\nThat said, enjoying any of these games absolutely requires an appreciation for a challenge. All of them are designed to be difficult (but not impossible) up front, but to learn through failure until it is simple, second nature, or at least fairly comfortable. If you do not care for, or do not enjoy, learning a boss's (or regular enemy's) attacks and weaknesses through some trial and error, none of these games will be for you. Every death is intended to be a lesson - \"oops, guess that's not how to dodge that attack\" / \"oh, I guess I don't have time to cast that spell in that window of opportunity\" / \"ahhh, so that's what this guy's weakness is\" / etc. It's very much a style that needs to... \"click\" with you to enjoy it. For some people this happens immediately and these games become some of their favorite games ever (me), even if they aren't that good at them (also kinda me, for some of them). For some people they try them once or twice or 5 times and it just doesn't quite gel and then suddenly, sometimes months later, something snaps into place and then they love them. For others they just never \"click,\" and even if they're skilled gamers, they might not enjoy the games.\n\nTo me these games are very much not \"super hard masochism simulators\" but instead are methodical and mysterious puzzles to solve - just in the form of combat and exploration, rather than tiles on a grid or numbers in a sequence.", "He was definitely trolling on the TloU2 part. Not about liking it but about how if you don't you're just too dumb to get it. That got a chuckle out of me.", "Should try Spec Ops: The Line. \n\nIncorporating gameplay into story is what makes gaming such a strong form of media. \n\nLast of Us 2 could have done a similar thing, its a great opportunity. It just doesn't so it ends up feeling like Arya in season 8 being told \"vengeance bad\" and giving up after literally cooking a family into a stew and feeding it to their father 20 feet away from her ultimate goal for the entire show.", "This is why I hate 90% of subs for tv shows and games.", "Well I was just trying to make this simple for you since how unfamiliar you are with depth and length, lmfao", "I think that was only for a short while, you could see the total number of upvotes and downvotes on a comment, it was cool. You could see something controversial have 105 upvotes and 103 down votes and you knew it was making an impact, now you see the same comment as +2 karma and figure it's just been ignored.", "I was dying laughing through that whole video, and the best part was it wasn't embellished. Balan Wonderworld truly is that awful. It left me fascinated at how shitty that game is.", "If anyone has kept it simple it has been me, lmfao.\n\nWhatever, had fun,, adios.", "It’s not self-deprecating. It’s ME deprecating!", "Sure was, lmfao", "So you really played through the entire Rattler section and thought Ellie was in her right mind? She doesn't even express the desire to kill Abby after Seattle. She doesn't want revenge, she wants peace of mind. Infact, that's what the whole point of \"revenge\" is. Revenge means nothing to the person that is dead. It's only because the people left behind think it will bring them peace of mind. Which in this story, it never does.\n\nAs she is killing Abby she reflects on what would really bring her peace of mind, and killing Abby isn't it. Clearly it isn't, and Ellie knows it, because Ellie was moments away from letting Abby walk away without a fight. You write as if Ellie started attempting to murder Abby as soon as she got within eyesight, but that isn't true. There's a very long silence as Ellie lets Abby and Lev walk free, and we have no idea what Ellie is thinking about. Only perhaps that she is meeting her nemesis in a non-hostile context, and it changes things. \n\nAnother thing. Killing Abby doesn't make any of those other people any less dead. How would killing Abby justify their deaths? There is no valid justification for anyone's death in this game in the first place. \n\nExcept the Rattlers, fuck those guys XD", "It was much longer than a short while. I think it happened maybe 5 years ago? You needed RES, but everybody had it back then.", "> the starting desert area of SMTV for example is actually supposed to be Tokyo 20 years in the future\n\n>!It is actually present day Tokyo, the Tokyo the MC grew up in was made by Bethel after the real Tokyo was destroyed and everyone in it died. So even more post-apocalyptic.!<", "manic slap bass", "That being said, there were a lot of legitimate reasons to dislike that game. Dismissing it all as internet hate is equally silly.", "Plenty of people understood that and still didn't like it though. Kind of condescending to assume that anyone who hated it just \"didn't get it\".", "This was the flip for me. I'm seeing headlines calling this the worst game ever invented and it's literally just Battlefield and the BR mode is great, albeit a little casual for my taste. \n\nMy litmus test for games has kind of evolved into immediately buying any game reddit says is bad. After /r/games burned me on Witcher 3 I just can't take them seriously anymore and that happened years ago.", "In my brief experience in the industry, they were usually the opposite.\n\nThey spend almost all their free time blogging/writing and a minimal amount of time actually playing games. I was the opposite, so I felt completely out of place with massive imposter syndrome. Didn't do it for too long.", "Only for now. YouTube is removing access to the API which displays this data soon as well.", "For me it was bioshock infinite. I considered it the most fun out of the 3 when i played it and thought the story was really interesting even if it was out of the box. One of my favorite campaigns to play", "That is pretty much where I landed.\n\nThe Abby stuff just felt like a slog. I just never found a way for her to be interesting or even particularly sympathetic. All the good parts of the game are Ellie, and the very best parts are with her and Joel; to have sacrificed more of that in trade for Abby's arc just seems like a terrible deal. \n\nI still really liked the game; GOTY in my opinion, even considering its faults. But when considered against how much higher it could have climbed it seems like a shame.", ">My understanding is Persona is more like a dating sim (more light-hearted, character based, building relationships) where SMT is more about things like existential dread and the end of the world.\n\nHonestly, the bigger difference is that Persona is much much more story/character-focused, while the SMT games are almost straight dungeon crawlers with the story there to serve as a backdrop, but not really the focus. You might get like 20 minutes of meaningful story for every 3 hours of dungeon crawling.", "It's literally pokemon. All the mechanics you just described are exactly pokemon, but slightly more punishing so there's an actual challenge. And SMTV is less random than Pokemon too: you can use a cheap consumable to discover an enemy's weaknesses/strengths; you can learn from your mistakes trying to capture an enemy (unlike pokemon where it's pure random all the time); there's no concept of IVs or mood that can randomly make your pokemon/demons better or worse; there's no random encounters since instead you have enemies visible in the overworld and can choose to easily dodge them if you want to.", "stop spreading misinfo. it was apple cider", "Sometimes you discover music from it's parody.", "I'll consider myself blessed to have been able to enjoy a tremendous body of brilliant works that those without the modicum of patience required to could not.", "When I first watched this on the smart TV it was just a black screen... for the entire video. Audio was fine... I really thought he was just being super ironic by making a video with.. just audio", "donk kong", "Man Witcher 2 was the best one", "For a minute until the APIs are cut", "The game shows her getting worse and worse... and then she changes because she's onset with a literal miracle flashback at the last second that undoes everything. She has an arc for a downfall, followed by a single scene for her turnabout. What was stopping her from having this nearly random flashback at literally any other point before that?\n\nHer character arc arrives on the beach fully realized and fully justified, and then changes her mind almost completely on a whim.", "Picturing the people taking it seriously and raging over Dunkey's ignorance to the connection makes the bit doubly entertaining.", "And then the shit mods from the old sub changed their tune and made out like charity was their idea the whole time", "I read this comment. \n\nThen I read it again. \n\nI still have no idea if you're making a positive or negative statement about Skyrim. \n\nGranted, I stopped playing it after the ice giant wrecked my shit the first 20 minutes into the game. I'm just genuinely curious what the fuck your comment meant haha", "Everyone who liked the ending fucked off to get killed my toxic butterflies", "The hate for The Last Jedi is genuinely pathetic.\n\nSure, you have issues with it, who doesn't? But to completely annihilate the film and say it has zero positive qualities? W-what? Were you happier with Rise of Skywalker?!", "r/freefolk is the only subreddit amongst all these other toxic ones where I 100% agreed with what they were saying.\n\nUnfortunately, it did attract the other usual mungos.", "The biggest problem with cyberpunk was all the cut content, not the bugs.", "🎵Monkey Kong December🎵", "Lots of them suck. Look up polygon trying to play Doom 2016, its hilariously bad.", "I didn't hate Olly as a character per se, more so the writing around the character as just a catchall for every single issue going down in Jun Snu's arc. \n\nIt sidelined other characters I wanted to see more from, like Alliser Thorne, and completely excluded others, like Bowen Marsh.", "Learn to appreciate a joke man, you can clearly see from the video page that they didn't go through with the dislike", ">they were so excited about the incest boat sex it was all they could post for weeks.\n\nWhich is what I don't get about the fanbase for Game of Thrones.\n\nHonestly, you waded through three seasons of pure muck, and NOW in the finale you're only getting pissed off!?", "he's still not making videos of the caliber that he used to.", "So, two...", "r/asoiaf and r/pureasoiaf are the best subs related to the series.\n\nr/freefolk was good for purely cathartic reasons during the shitty latter half of the show, but it was otherwise way too memetastic and loud, personality-wise.", "That’s rare tbh", ">which is what separates them from the psychopaths that made up the TLOU2 and TLJ backlashes.\n\nYep exactly, nobody was harassing actors on twitter to the extent that Kelly Marie Tran and Daisy Ridley got. \n\nAs a lifelong Star Wars fan, the \"fanbase\" can be absolutely pathetic.", "Did that with Bioshock. Bought all of them on a sale because a friend swore by all of them. I played Bioshock Remastered for several hours in a binge and just never felt compelled to come back after that first spurt.", "He's so cool", "Nah there's lots more, thats just one I can think of off the top of my head. If you're really interested I can send you more in a few hours when I'm off work, but I get the feeling your mind is already completely made up...", "As someone who dropped Star Wars like a bag of bricks after the Prequels, seeing the new stuff and actually enjoying most of it, to my surprise, I keep that to myself now.\n\nI even have friends that I went to see The Last Jedi with, tell me in person that they really enjoyed it, turn around two weeks later saying it ruined Star Wars. \n\nIt's like, fair enough if you actually believe that, everyone is entitled to their genuine opinions, but most people are afraid of having an opinion of their own and would rather just follow the herd of hate.", "I'm sure there are more, but there are also plenty of regular gamers who also suck at games—and, at least in those two popular examples, neither of those journalists are actually reviewing the game (and at least one of them doesn't review games). I just think people like to exaggerate and play it up for the \"Game journalist bad\" meme.", "I think you undeestimate their power, especially when it comes to things like tutorials", "/r/newworldgame is that for me", "I'm impressed with the number of people who are outraged at their inability to mark their dislike of something", "Ngl, I feel like an easy mode would kind of go against the tone of the souls games. They all have this feeling of you are a nobody, walking the path that many before you have walked and failed. You die over and over again, with each death a harsh reminder of the little power you hold. \nI'd have to disagree with it being ableist, but I see where you're coming from", "Right! I literally said, out loud, sitting here by myself in front of my PC, \"Oh wow, people are gonna freak out at this, this is glorious!\"", "Ableist? Having a game be hard by design is ableist?", "Up until the last line, I thought you were talking about the video. Thanks for clarifying.", "I'd bet a lot of money your average gamer can play a lot better than that. And it's not their job to write about games. Why would you write about something you don't even know how to consume? Thats the problem people have. It'd be like a blind person reviewing film. Sure, it might have some use for a tiny minority of people, but it's absolutely worthless for the intended audience.", "Sure, and I bet your average game journalist can play a lot better than that too; we just happen to remember the bad examples.\n\n> It'd be like a blind person reviewing film.\n\nNo, it would be like a blind person writing about film, which is very different to reviewing. None of these examples of bad gameplay so far have been from actual reviews. It's possible to write about games without reviewing them.", "This is how I feel, but unironically.", "That's the thing though, I feel the main draw of Dark Souls is to get your shit kicked in. I don't think the difficulty not having a setting is ableist.", "Just so its out there for everyone, there's easy fix to bring the dislikes back with extension. Literally called Return Youtube Dislikes", "Why'd he drag In-and-Out into this?", "Theres a vod of his first playthrough and you could feel how he gave the game a chance yet the game is just astronomically bad", "Firefox has the same addon. If you're using Edge, [do it like this.](https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new/)", "It's quite odd what people do for karma, although it's not hurting anyone so ultimately who cares?", "I don’t think you should critique a sequel as if it doesn’t have a predecessor. TLoU set a precedent that the sequel simply didn’t live up to. \n\nI’m not saying this means the game is worthless, or that it can’t be enjoyed by anyone: I just don’t like when people act like games should be treated as if they don’t have the template for continued success when they do.\n\nHalo 4 might have been a competent standalone shooter, but as a follow up to CE, 2, 3, and Reach, it’s just not the quality that it should be.", "Right? I've hated or disliked tons of games for different reasons. It happens, nobody likes every game.\n\nWhat I've never felt like doing is talking shit about them for years in a subreddit created solely for that purpose. I tend to forget games I don't like in a week or so and unless someone asks my opinion about them or there's otherwise interesting discussion about them I just don't think about them.\n\nI understand fan subreddits. I've no idea why these people would want to waste their time hating something they're not even going to play.", "Nah, it is almost the same.\n\nJust enjoy it because you like it. Enjoying it because someone else doesn't like it seems weird", "YEP", "Oh yeah that’s definitely a big appeal haha\nWhat got me interested for sure", "Nice.", "Sorry, totally not what I meant to imply. I just meant during a time when so many people were just trashing it for bullshit reasons (and yes plenty for valid reasons as well), it was really nice to see someone who understood and appreciated what the writers were going for. I felt like amongst all the hateful, vitriolic rhetoric so many reviewers and commenters were spewing, their review was a voice of reason in the chaos for those of us who do appreciate that kind of story.", "They still count, as I have a couple videos that went up that due to dislikes have been flagged for review. And I see the number of them in my dashboard still, even on brand new videos. They just aren't public anymore so the public doesn't bandwagon around making it a joke number\n\nI kinda like and kinda dislike (heh) the move tbhq in different ways", "They still count, as I have a couple videos that went up that due to dislikes have been flagged for review. And I see the number of them in my dashboard still, even on brand new videos. They just aren't public anymore so the public doesn't bandwagon around making it a joke number\n\nI kinda like and kinda dislike (heh) the move tbhq in different ways", "Octopath Traveler is THE best game, never play it tho", "People put up with the shit because the finale was supposed to redeem the show. Once this redemption arc wasn't happening seasons 5-8 became even worse in retrospect, since there was no point in watching it all in the first place and the whole show was a colossal waste of time and resources.", "Right? It seems to me that in this video he's alternating between obvious trolling/shitposting and just stating the truth.", "Is Todd in the room with you?", "Have you ever seen that happen cause I haven’t", "The good thing from my end was I was happy to wait a few months for it to shoot down in price. What I played was a fantastic game. People herding towards hating something like that always raises my suspicions about ulterior hatred motives.", "How can you possibly say that it's an objectively good game when people are so split about this game? There is no objectively good game, and much less this one.", "Same here, or even when people just pull out a straw man and say shit like \"oh what you wanted Luke Skywalker flipping around doing force shit like the prequels?\" No motherfucker, how about the dozen other issues with that movie?", "I’m pretty sure he was being sincere about TLOU2. After that, I have no idea.", "Congratulations for coming online as a human. You do you, and like whatever you want. Life is much better when you don't give a fuck about what other people think.", "It is weird. People like that commenter have an obsession with the controversy around the movies. As you've said, it's as ugly a look.", "wind waker😎", "Calm down buddy you clearly need to control your emotions \n\nI have seen comments deleted in videos, just not for tutorial ones\n\nBesides usually they’res someone who says that comments are getting deleted", "The only video game card game worth playing is Pazaak.", "How does someone miss the blatant and obvious point so badly?\n\nShe's changed so much and killed so many people in her rage quest to avenge Joel, which was also emotional escapism to avoid dealing with their fallout they had right before his death and the guilt she feels about it, that by the time she finally gets to Abby she wises up to her own bullshit and realizes this isn't what Joel would have wanted. \nIt isn't going to bring him back.\nShe's sacrificed everything in her life and for what? Nothing but misery. \nShe made a choice to just fucking move on already and fortunately for Abby and her ward it was at that moment and not after. \n\nEllie was her own worst enemy in that game. She just made bad choice after bad choice in her quest for vengeance that got the people she cared for killed in some cases and alienated from her in others. \n\nAnd in the end her only connection she has left to Joel (the guitar) she's left unable to play because of her murderspree that was supposed to make her feel better but just left her empty.", "If they wanted me to get invested in Abby’s story they could have made her at least slightly likeable.\n\nVery quickly after you start playing as Abby it’s utterly transparent what they’re trying to do with the story, then it just drags on for another 7 or 8 hours until you get back to the giant cliffhanger they left you with.\n\nIt was still a great game, but that part of the story just wasn’t very well executed.", "Finally people can make videos about how Balan Wonderworld is the best game of the year, and Battlefield 2042 is the best Battlefield game", "Tone, maybe, but his cadence in that video was fairly dramatically different from his normal cadence. Any time you hear him repeatedly holding onto some syllables for longer than usual, he's doing a midwestern Karen accent (like, literally, Karen from SpongeBob), which he uses to sarcastically complain about things.", "Videogamedunkey the youtube guy is an intellectual, therefore all of these “arguments” are facts and cannot be argued against.\n\nTL;DR: he right you wrong he wins byebye.", "Those places are just hate subs.\n\n\nNot just hating on the game, but cesspits of homophobia, sexism and racism in general.", ">The whole violence begets violence narrative was refreshing, along with the lack of a happy ending.\n\nTLOU2 was the second PS4 flagship sequel in as many years to feature both of these things quite majorly (the other being God of War 2019), so \"refreshing\" is maybe not the most accurate way to say it.", "I don’t know man, I think is videos are fairly straight forward, his video “Goblins are real” is a good example of putting out a genuine video with real truth and no satire. I for one now believe goblins are real.", "Simplifying everything Witcher 3 does well as \"story telling\" is a bit too simplistic.\n\nWitcher 3 is probably still the best game ever made in terms of quest design, art direction & cinematic camera work during cutscenes, facial animations, music and supporting characters.\n\nThis all combines in something that feels extremely engaging & also memorable even years after, while something that has very tight gameplay (e.g. Doom Eternal) is forgotten within days/weeks.", "Which is actually genius, he raises very strong points about the gaming industry and in videos like this, creator industry and points out why removing dislikes is bad, while making you understand the points without directly telling you his true opinion.\nThe high level of satire in his video basically points out the flaws and let’s you make the opinion yourself", "i know this is 100% trolling but i actually agree with some of the things he said\n\nfor one thing, souls games are too hard, and i'd play them if there was a difficulty mode more appropriate for me\n\nalso how generally things i don't like are bad and i'm smart for not liking them and other people are dumb because they like those things", "It is serious. Watch his review of the game. He loved it.", "🎵Donkey Kong December🎵", "It's hard, but it's easier at the same time. In all of those games except for maybe bloodborne, though, there are ways to circumvent the difficulty with stuff like magic.", "Can't believe dunkey went in with the hard R. Ballsy.", "I agree on the easy mode, I wanna finish some games", "The funny thing about the popular perception of Souls games being \"too hard\", or the meme about a hard game being the \"Dark Souls\" of x genre, is that in the end, almost everybody who plays Dark Souls beats Dark Souls. Does a game really qualify as \"hard\" if the vast majority of folks beat it? Did you ever own a NES game you couldn't beat? That was a hard game.\n\nThe challenge of Dark Souls was simply a calculated component of an overarching mandate to make the experience mature and treat the player with respect, as opposed to handing them a win on a silver platter. That this counts as \"hard\" really only says something about other games.", "No. Watch them play Halo Infinite. 'Journalists' are terrible at gaming.", "I mean, it is a badly written game but it didn't kill your mother and rape your father like people made it out. The thing people had a valid cristicism over though was the dev's doubling down on insisting the bad writing was good, like im not a writer but even I recognized the story was very disjointed near the end and someone made some last minute changes. (and sure enough I was right as months later a dev came out and said they decided to change the ending last minute.)", "I mean, they’re journalists. They don’t need to be great.", "I get the downvotes for DrbeansPhD, why are you getting downvoted?", "K", "Hah, i was about to say \"who are these people? i've never heard of them.\"", "Yeah, no. If you're going to be reviewing a product the least you can do is know how to play it.", "You shouldn't dismiss it all.\n\nJust filter out the people that didn't LIKE the story. Any objective criticism is still valuable.\n\nIt's incredibly easy to spot the difference between the two. Ignore the first one and form your own opinion. Embrace the second one to determine if you would like it.\n\nWhen it's a sequel to a game you like, simply check for the state of the game itself and the more objective parts of the game (gameplay changes etc.)\n\nAll the people saying that the TLOU2 story is bad are idiots. I still didn't like it but it's not bad.\n\nFiltering out the bullshit is one of the easiest things to do on story rich games.", "Not all journalists are reviewers.\n\nThese people aren’t reviewing the games, they’re just playing them. There’s such a significant misunderstanding here that people simply fail to comprehend or acknowledge.\n\nBut thanks for the downvotes. I should have said “Game journalist = bad” instead, maybe I would have been gilded.", "I got banned from the last of us 2 subreddit for \"trolling\" all I said was that tlou2 is the superior game.", "Yes.... let the hate flow through you....", "The sun is yellow", "Good job buddy!", "Its mostly people who were butthurt a character they liked from the first game died, but there are valid criticism's for sure. for one thing they changed the ending last minute which basically derails the entire message they were trying to get across with it. as a game though its functional and there are MUCH worse options out there, any modern Blizzard release for example.", "CDPR fixed TW3.\n\nModders fixed Skyrim. Actually, fixed is a strong word, they made it playable.", "See this is where you're wrong.\n\nIf you played any Battlefield games before and expect the same thing in BF2042, that just isn't true.\n\nApart from acknowledging the game is absolutely broken, even if you fixed all that and changed nothing else, the game is vastly different than previous installments.\n\nI personally think the BR mode is trash because it's extremely underdeveloped and i don't care for it. But that doesn't mean you're not allowed to like it. \n\nYou can like the direction they went, that's fine. But saying \"It's literally just Battlefield\" is simply incorrect. If you're pointing people to trailers and give them the advice \"if you liked BF4, play this. it's the same game but newer\" you're just giving out a false sense of the game.", "That's an entirely different type of game. Much much smaller too. Also, killing every living thing in that game is essential for one of the endings. Completionists wont be able to fully enjoy that game without killing everyone.", "Unfortunately individual comments can be hidden by the creator, making it far more difficult to realize whether this tutorial is legit.", "Funny I shat my self.", "thanks for the tag but i accidentally clicked and read a bit anyway lol. im only some 5 hours in personally and i just know the 20 years thing from some demon dialogue", "Same, and don't regret it. TloU2 actually makes me question whether that or Bloodborne are my favourite ps4 title, and BB held that throne with a large lead before.", "no its not, its still available on mine", "His prank calling video about the Mario movie is my favorite from this year.", "Nice", "If you can't\n\n* play games\n* make games\n* stream games\n\nYou become a gaming journalist.", "nobody wants to play as a homo", "Most of r/thelastofus actually like it and those who don't actually give good reasons why. r/thelastofus2 though that's another story", ">most people\n\n🤔🤔🤔\n\nfor what it's worth, I too love dunkey.", "heres how you can fix the dislike button https://returnyoutubedislike.com/", "Define salty?\n\nPeople saying the game is very much improved on a technical level are correct.\n\nPeople saying the game has not had any revision or major updates to it's core systems are correct.\n\nPeople saying that the game is still not anywhere near the level it was shown as, or promised to be, pre-launch are also correct.\n\nThat you can enjoy the game despite all this is correct as well.\n\nI personally won't touch the game again for a very, very long time because i was extremely disappointed by it and i \"hate\" the game because of all the points i mentioned.\n\nI don't hate the world, i don't hate the story, i don't hate the characters, i don't hate the setting. That's great and is still great. But i hate the entire game around it because of it's unacceptable handling of it's development and how good it SHOULD have been based on what they were doing. And that counts for the story too. It's already quite good, but should have been (and can be) much better.\n\nIf the game was announced 3 months ago and would have launched now, i would have rated it highly but not amazing. Knowing what we do, that just drops the point.\n\nIf that makes me salty, so be it. If this attitude encourages anyone to just wait and see what happens, great.\n\nIf you played the Witcher 3 once for the story and loved it, you should not play this game right now. Wait for it's development cycle to fully finish before you commit.\n\nif CDPR never improves upon it, play it then. If they do manage to enhance it, you're just missing out by playing it now.\n\nIf you play these game multiple times and want to experiment, then by all means play it right now.", "I'm a big dunkey fan and I know he will do a low effort video from time to time, but am I the only one who thinks he's been doing a lot more low effort videos lately?", "Oh, he's baiting me with the In 'n' Out bashing...Imma go drop a dislike quick!", "With most glaring bugs fixed, it's comfortably mediocre imo.", "There is an addon for this\n\nhttps://returnyoutubedislike.com/", "Is this a safe space for me to say how much I hated playing the Witcher 3? Because I fucking did. \n\nThe game controls like absolute shit, I don’t know how they managed to strike that unholy balance between slippery and clunky, but by god they did it. I swear to god I don’t care how good the story gets 25 hours in if getting to that part of the story is going to require me to slog through endless repetitive fetch quests in a mostly bland open world defined by miserable NPC’s that aren’t fun to interact with. No matter what that game asked me to do it just felt like a chore, killing monsters should be fun, but it isn’t in the fucking Witcherino 3. \n\nIf you somehow enjoyed that game, good for you, you got to have fun playing a game you enjoyed, I envy your ability to enjoy experiences that I don’t. But honestly, I’m tired of seeing this game treated like it’s the best video game to ever exist. I’m with Dunkey on this one, fuck the Witcher 3.", "Kinda funny how he doesn't know that you can see dislikes by the browser extensions.\nKinda reminds me of Knack 2", "> Kind of condescending to assume that anyone who hated it just \"didn't get it\".\n\nIn no point in their comment did they do this though? Reread it maybe?", "Poor Bowen Marsh and Othell Yarwyck. They existed, but just barely.", "I wish dunky hadn't made me dislike the video so many times cause I enjoyed it. \n\nI hope I don't get his channel deleted sorry dunky.", "TLOU2 is the worst game ever. I never even played it but I know the gameplay is bad, the gunplay is bad, the main character is a bike (bicycles? I'm not sure but I read it online so I know it's true). I hated that game so much I fell asleep while I played it. It made me so mad and I never even played it. Also Neil only did it because he thinks people should be treated like people and I think that's wrong.", "Oh believe me they exist. I’ve known and even lived with a few. They have disgustingly specced out PCs and barely get any gaming time in because their lives are a mess. Once knew a gamer couple who moved in next door. It was like a whirlwind of chaos. Every conversation was an argument, they hated each other and we all had to sit and listen to it through the walls. Their flat was chokked to the hilt with really overpriced toys of Alien and superhero shit and they complained about everything. When I asked what they did the girlfriend actually responded with “we’re gamers” (the bloke worked in IT support from what I could tell, and she worked in TV). She apparently said “but I’m a gamer” to everyone in the building.\n\nI played consoles so I literally wasn’t worth talking to in their eyes. Also I used macs instead of PCs so I was considered a moron.", "I get bored of games real quick, but I really love starting new games. \n\nSo I Google \"new game review Reddit.\" It always pulls up the review thread on Reddit, and there's always a few first day buyers talking about the opening hours of the game and if they liked it or not. That usually tells me all I need to know.", "RIP", "The trick into beating these games is knowing that it is going to kill you, and you have to watch what the enemy does while you die. They have very explicit move sets and once you know what they are you can just dodge them and wait for their opening and then attack. Also, the best way to beat 2/3rds of all the bosses is to attack their crotch.", "Classic.", "Magic in the DS series is usually the easier path in the games.", "fr that shit slapped", "Return Youtube Dislike is a browser plugin that reinserts the dislike count. I'm guessing that means the dislike number is still publicly available somewhere? Not sure. But it works, for now, and it's lovely.", "Joel's mercy at the beginning to the game ended his when he saved Abby's life from the zombie horde", "Regardless of how Youtube uses dislikes, the main use I had for them was finding out at a glance if a tutorial/skill sharing video was good or not. Youtube was great for finding knowledgeable people to teach you things, but there are a significant amount of grifters out there and when the video is ratioed to death, that's a good indicator of grift.", "I like Donkey Kong", "Its a question of audience.\n\nPeople who read games journalism are more likely to be good at games because its their primary hobby so compared to them journalists are bad. Compared to the average person who plays games they're generally decent but sometime have issues, especially if they're talking and playing at the same time.", "That’s a great point. They’re pretty decent gamers (usually; there are some shockers), they’re just typically a lot worse than their audience. And, since they technically get paid for writing articles about games (though not playing them), the audience thinks that makes it worse and that they’re undeserving of their jobs.", "But why?? Dislikes is how you get better.", "Honestly why not? At least for comments.", "That's pretty one sided view on this. Wow, they took away a button on a page. I never liked or disliked a YouTube video in my life. The last of us debacle? Who the fuck cares? People are stupid for preordering the game. This is what happens when you pre-order, you get scammed. I won't miss the button because this is not how I express my opinion. My opinion does not depend on a button or a comment. If I don't like something, I just stop buying, playing or reading it. I don't need a button which suggests that I have power over something. I also don't need to be a part of Twitter hate tirades, mass downvoting of games or movies/ shows etc.. To some of y'all downvoting/ disliking something seems like a sport. Get a hobby.", "So instead you type out paragraphs about how much you don't care", "I want every content creator to exclusively make only videos about this until YouTube changes it back.", "I'm struggling to think how zefrank will make a weird animal facts video about it, but yes.", "It's the same with TLoU2. Can't dislike it without being accused of homophobia or transphobia. Nevermind that the bits focused on Dina and Lev are the redeeming parts of the story.\n\nUnfortunately the bigots and the psychos mean everyone who thinks it's flawed gets tarred with the same brush.", "But why?? Dislikes is how you get better.", "They're notorius for playing games on easy mode.", "Most games aren't good. Most games become popular and stay popular because of social pressure and social gaming (multiplayer with friends can make a bad game fun for years).\n\nNothing innovative has happened in gaming in over a decade now and the entire genre is a stale mess of rehash and repeats.\n\nIt's why every big release is \"best game ever made\" for two months then you never hear shit about it again because \"best game ever\" just means new, pretty and has a prerelease following that will hype the game up so they look good until non fanboys touch it and realize it's just a fucking video game, not the goddamn rapture.", "> Fallen Order\n\nWhat difficulty did you play this on? Its fairly similar to Souls games and if you did it on medium or above you can do souls games.\n\nBut even if the difficulty isn't a concern I wouldn't recommend Demons Souls unless you have a decent amount of time because its purposefully obscure and requires taking your time to understand the janky systems.\n\nThe PS3 release is by far my favourite souls game, but its not something you can just play for an hour a week imo.", "He has points. I still loved Skyrim for the first 5 years and the Witcher.", "Sup. It was after Jon came back down South, I believe the farm was the one where Bran saw him and decided to sneak past the wall instead of going to castle black.", "Don't ever say anything like this out loud", "I fail to see the problem.", "> Nothing innovative has happened in gaming in over a decade now\n\nOuter Wilds", "My comment doesn’t affect you, and yet you comment. Curious. That’s the logic ur working with here", "And this is how WW3 was started, kids...", "To be fair though, some of the difficulty in DS1 borders on bad game design. Like the dogs in the Capra Demon fight, or the fucking archers on the rooftop in Anor Londo.", "Reddit used to show your exact upvote and downvote scores. It was a lot better back then. Everywhere is a lot more echo-chambery now.", "The exact same thing happens when streamers are bad at games.\n\nThat's only part of their job, the bigger part is to be entertaining while playing, and anyone who's tried even holding a conversation while playing a real time game knows how hard that can be.", "I understood what they were going for, the problem is I don't think they pulled it off. \"Forcing\" is the right word to use there because a lot of the attempts to make you empathise with Abby felt forced. I put a lot of the failing with the story down to a misstep in the first game, which was failing to make the fireflies sympathetic in any way. TLoU2 tries to make you feel bad for killing Abby's father in the first game, but given that he was about to vivisect Ellie without her consent (and without spending any time exploring other possible options) and Abby actually encourages her father to do this... yeah no sympathy.\n\nI did actually end up empathising more with Abby towards the end but only really because of what a psycho they turned Ellie into and because her interactions with Lev humanised her a lot. But I could see a lot of what the writers were trying to do and a lot of it fell flat.", "He's obviously making satire, but the other videos kinda hit on the same note.\n\nhe just wanted to say the most controversial things in the most controversial way.", "Exactly. There are some streamers or esports players whose entire job is to be good at games, which I guess is a different story, but most streamers are entertainers first. It can be occasionally fun to poke fun at them when they’re bad, but some people take it far too seriously.", "Yes… it’s all the TV screenwriters’ fault and not the guy who wouldn’t finish the god damn books…", "I mean it's a terrible game, nothing you can say or do will change that.", "not everyone who doesn't like something is just hating it because of SJW soyboys or whatever.", "So was the first one.", "That's the beauty with Dunkey. You never know his true opinion. This state of utter uncertainty is something many viewers didn't even know they missed. In a world where every media outlet and every Youtuber tells you if a game is good or bad, they effectively tell you what to think. Dunkey doesn't do that shit, he lays out the facts and lets you form your own opinion, something that many viewers find unsettling.", "Regarding the Dislike button, I for one appreciate all the new amazing movie trailers that big Hollywood studios have apparently been keeping from us. There's some really cool movies coming out!!", "I can definitely see it being less problematic if you haven't played the first game. Problem is there's a lot of story beats and characterisations that don't work very well if you have played the first game. Though I'm not sure I'd describe the \"violence begets violence\" narrative as \"refreshing\", trite more like. Revenge is an overused character motivation and the cycle of violence has been explored many many times before in storytelling. And explored much better than it was in TLoU2.", "Have you played literally any other video game, by chance?", "There's a lot of unpopular truths hidden in that sarcasm though", "That's the game with his videos.", "well ur wrong!!!", "The cdpr will rustle far more because it's true", "Bobby B walked so Gandalf could fly", "Same shit different game.\n\nThey just took replaying a game after beating it, or repeating cause you died, and capped it at a short amount of time before you reset.\n\nIt's the same shit we did in Mario Bros. You fail, learn, do it again only better.\n\nJust now it is 22 minutes instead of 2 minutes or 22 hours.\n\nInnovation means new means of play.\n\nAll First Person Shooters are effectively the same until someone innovates a new method of aiming, perfect accuracy hit boxes, something...innovative.", "Donkey Kong.\n\nUpvote me. \n\nNow what bitches.", "I have a lot of criticisms of the story but almost none for the gameplay. I think my one small criticism is that the infected don't feel as dangerous as they did in the first game, Clickers especially feel weaker and less oppressive (I blame this partly on stealth killing them being trivial for the first part of the game). Unfortunately the story is really what I came for and it was a let down in my opinion.", "Fucking freaks, man.", "Why are internet mods so consistently just the worst fucking people?", "He did this rap to the beat of Peanut butter jelly time.", "Nah, idiots assuming that naysayers are all crazies are what ruined it. And that’s by design too - what company wouldn’t want to broadcast the idea that it’s loudest critics are weirdos?", "That and it inadvertently manages to send the message that revenge works. Abby got hers and manages to find peace and companionship, Ellie failed to go through with it and ends up broken and alone. Insincere with its theming indeed.", "Another Dunkey video, another three minutes where I forget what laughter feels like.\n\nWhy does Reddit suck this guy's dick so hard?", "\"Hi, I'm an asshole.\"", "It’s a game that was written backwards. They had a ‘cool scene’ but apparently didn’t really care how it got there. So you get a contest of murderhobo vs countermurderhobo. They really wanted you to like Abby, and it became too obvious.", "If you’re not an “incompetent gamer”, the answer really is this: look up a YouTube walkthrough for these games, like from FightinCowboy. Follow along with it. Every single FromSoftware game gives you an exploitable option to pass each challenge. And every single from software game has cheese to take advantage of. \n\nAfter doing this myself, I still felt satisfied with the accomplishment of beating the game and loved the world enough to start playing around with my own custom builds and playthroughs. You may come to a different conclusion, but I guarantee that by the end you’ll understand how to play these games", "PrincipalSkinnerAmIOutOfTouch.gif", "That is... an incredibly narrow way of looking at it.\n\nOuter Wilds is a puzzle game set in a continuously running physics simulation. I don't know of any games that do anything similar to it. How is that not innovative?", "Actually lots of games force you to unlock the highest difficulty...", "Actually lots of games force you to unlock the highest difficulty...", "\"I'm so much better than you, I'll waste 5 minutes typing an inane paragraph about it!\"", "It's a comedic video, he's not going by what he knows, but what makes the video entertaining.", "I get the joke. Dude's just not funny.", "Exactly. She was fixated on a goal and when she finally reached it she had changed so much killing her meant nothing", "To you. Humour is subjective, friend.", "\"Hi, I'm an asshole\"", "This was great. And the funny part will be if this becomes one of the most disliked videos on YouTube and nobody will even know cause we can't tell", "https://www.returnyoutubedislike.com/", "Feels like he's recounting the reviews where he got the most dislikes.", "Not enough anime waifus", "One of the criticisms I have is that there's sexist undertones in how some of the only characters the game tries to make you feel bad about killing are pregnant women. By your \"logic\" I can call everyone that likes the game, including yourself, sexist towards women.\n\nThere are definitely bigots in the audience who hate it because of their own prejudices but tarring everyone who dislikes it with the same brush is just bullshit.", "> Video game journalists are barely writers who can vaguely game.\n\nFIN.", "The Last of Us pt2 is the second greatest video game of all time and it’s story is perfect. That’s just a fact.", "Gameplay doesn't change, just the backdrop of it.\n\nSelf driving cars are the first leap in real automobile innovation since probably the 50s. Bells and whistles can be new, but the underlying experience is still the same as it was decades ago.\n\nFor suck sakes, a decade old game is still being released NEW today and it sells well enough to support an entire company. Multiple even.\n\nInnovation doesn't happen. Hell it apparently isn't necessary.", "Yeah I encountered no bugs and I still hated it lol", "I upvoted you pal. Some snowflakes just can't stand it when people like things that they don't.", "donkey kong december \ndonkey kong december \ndonkey kong december \ndonkey kong december \nDONKEY KONG DECEMBER \nDONKEY KONG DECEMBER", "Then say that - innovative gameplay - because innovation is happening all the time in the industry.", "You mean 12 time game of the year winning Super Mario Bros 2?", "If you manage to beat any boss in any souls game you’ve already made good progress in terms of building up the skill set required to finish any of the games. It’s just a completely different approach to gameplay than most games. I know this cause I hade zero experience in souls games and still managed to beat DS3 and Sekiro without too much struggle except for the first few hours.\n\nI think what people who struggle with souls games fail to see is that the boss fights make up the entire game. If you dont like fighting bosses that require learning attack patterns, staying focused to quickly react etc. you simply don’t like souls games. Nothing wrong with that.\n\nGames like Skyrim, Witcher, Assassin’s Creed all have very dumbed down combat. This works because the games offer a lot in other aspects like storytelling, visuals, open-world etc.\n\nIf you made souls games any easier there simply wouldnt be any meaningful gameplay left. I think it’s really impressive how From Software manages to tune the difficulty of their games in a way that makes almost every encounter feel so rewarding.", "It takes a certain type of person to agree to being a janitor for free", "Sekiro made me almost cry a few times on my first playthrough, but once the combat \"clicked\" I started speedrunning the game to finish off the remaining achievements.", "Personally I disagree.\n\nThe best video game plots + world building still don't reach the highs of other mediums like books and series imo.\n\nBecause of that the games that stick with me are the ones that have good game design and gameplay", ">Most games aren't good. Most games become popular and stay popular because of social pressure and social gaming (multiplayer with friends can make a bad game fun for years).\n\n\n I don't necessarily disagree with this point but some games aren't made to be masterpieces. They're made just to be tons of fun to be played with friends. And that's totally fine.", "The API for the dislike button shuts off December 8th iirc. I know it's sometime in December for sure.", "If you ever decide to try them again, don't do sword and board. Use a heavy two hander and light armor. That way, you hit hard and move fast. Learn an easy two hit combo on your heavy weapon, and learn when to use it. The rest of the time is for dodging. Never hit more than twice per attack, and keep moving.\n\n Doing that made the games go from decently challenging to pretty easy for me. People sleep on those big two handers, but they really do the work.", "Cause gaming journalists aren't gamers and are too lazy to get fucking good.", "How does one lose a battle with apple cider? Do you have to finish a certain quantity before you pass out drunk or something?", "It took me six seconds to post this while watching tv", "he obviously loves it", "Exactly, so why then remove the dislike button?", "everything before the SMT part is serious (but exaggerated) everything after that is not serious, the donkey kong bit is actually serious (tropical freeze is GOATED)", "> Were you happier with Rise of Skywalker?!\n\nPersonally? Yes. It was a lot more visually interesting for me and I really enjoyed the gothic tone it had at times.\n\nThe only thing I even remember from TLJ is the Holdo explosion, and Leia doing her best superman impression.", "Looking at my youtube starting page the number of pure clickbait titles today is astounding.\n\nThat and the sheer number of unskipable ads...\n\nI think that's it for me and youtube. Thanks for the good run.", "^THIS!", "We could argue about the technicalities but we should be able to agree that you lost if you pass out for a month after drinking less than a liter of juice.", "> rpg fans where are you morons at\n\n> new dumb rpg came out", "i really just feel like goblins are real right now", "Nope, you are nitpicking and biased. I win, bye bye!", "this is a donkey kong video as much as a gorilla drawn on a water heater is a donkey kong idol", "That's a great one too", "FYI Dunkey [likes DS now](https://youtu.be/ONfg5qeK_mI).", "Strike that. Reverse it. Hit dislike.", "You didn’t play the same game. \nMost of the hate come from people who didn’t play it", "Downvotes are good for filtering out noise.", "Holy shit, inquisition is an abomination of an rpg. Mmorpg gaming brought into a pseudo crpg format", "They had an outline, they just chopped out half the outline. Which is why things would happen for seemingly no reason.", "Which sub? r/thelastofus2? Or r/thelastofus? One of those is not like the other.", "> Define salty?\n\nWhen people have to make a less salty sub like /r/LowSodiumCyberpunk to get away from it.", "People suck the souls game dick constantly but like, the games are ass. The only \"quality\" of the game is that it's hard. But it's not fun. The movement is janky as all hell, the combat is slow, the difficulty mostly artificial. The world is some more dead greyscale bullshit we see everywhere. It's ugly, the gameplay isn't fun, the controls are bad. Especially when platforming is somewhat important in these games and yet the character controls are just complete ass. If your game has some platforming elements don't make the controls so shitty. \n\nI have a suspicion people who \"like\" this game don't like the game, they like that most people who pick it up can't beat it (read: don't bother with the bullshit game mechanics).", "I bought Skyrim for my PS3. I created a single character. I got my platinum trophy, finished the game, and uninstalled it. I have never played Skyrim again on any system. \n\nI presume my experience to be the default one and everyone who talks about having played it more than once is either a liar or an outlier.", "There’s an incredible community of YouTubers that help explain the lore behind these games. The lore is told not just in item descriptions but in the placement, mannerisms, and detail of the enemies and NPCs.\n\nFor instance, one video (which I can’t find anymore) had an amazing dissection of the evangelist enemy in DS3 undead settlement. It outlined how, based partially on their clothing and weapon choices, these evangelists arrived from the Chapel of the Deep (another location in the game) to spread a curse (spoken by the enemy when they use a move) to further spread a dark religious following of the abyss. \n\nWhat’s really compelling is how clear it is what inspirations have been used by the developer to come up with these aesthetics. Berserk, 80s anime movies like the Angel’s Egg, Studio Ghibli, and now, a collaboration with GRRM, who the developer has always said is a massive inspiration.\n\nAs for graphics, no, but the art direction is absolutely amazing.\n\nFor some, this type of subtle storytelling may not appeal to them, but to answer your waiting, yes- the games are much more than the combat.", "Blink if you're in trouble.", "_Susan Wikiwiki has entered the chat_", "> Skyrim has been released 30 times and still isn't a finished game.", "Actually gave me shingles. True story", "The exaggerated swagger of a Puerto Rican strand-type youtuber.", "Fun loophole. You can drop f bombs left and right and if they demonitize you, you can technically sue them and win. If all your videos are likes because the public only sees them as liked, then that means you spanking the English language with deranged and filty terms of endearment for 20 minutes and they can't claim the videos are disliked because the public can't dislike them either, only like.\n\nI fully expect an interesting lawsuit like this in the next few years over this nuance", "Usually bots that scrape the top comments for easy karma on reddit.", "Donkey Kong December!", "\"Hi, I can't handle someone's opinion that isn't mine.\" K lol. You sound just a bit sensitive, kid.", "I sure hope we can find an alternative to youtube one day. Even tiktok might sound better if it delivered.", "Lazy enough to be genius.", "I've been on there for years, and I will say without any doubt that it is the least toxic gaming sub on reddit.", "I feel like YouTubers should love this kind of drama because it gives them guaranteed mega view content. Dit doesn't even matter that they are all saying the same things over and over, it gets those outrage views.", "in all seriousness he was right, it was review bombed by a bunch of homophobic idiots before they even could play thr game. I watched the user review score come in THE DAY OF release, none of those morons played the game, just heard that protagonist was gay and they killed the only testosterone driven character, so stupid.", "To me it seemed like he was taking the piss and did actually enjoy it, but still had some complaints", "Maybe by this point you should have learned not to watch his videos?", "This video is freaking hilarious!", "Yeah I hate that TLOU2 got caught up in this weird ass culture and now everyone who likes/dislikes it is on one side of a war.\n\nThe story itself is a trite tale on the cycle of revenge that's been done to death. It's Blue Ruin for baby brains.\n\nAt the same time I get how someone can like that and not think they're the worst person ever.", "the first play through is always hard, but if i could erase my memory and play it for the first time every time - i would, it takes a while to get, but the struggle and puzzle solving ultimately have the biggest pay off of any game ive played, ever. Its why there is so much hype around elden ring, no one knows what to expect and there is no walkthrough to guide you, its all you bae-bee", "The timeline is that some people hated The Force Awakens, a lot more people hated The Last Jedi, and then of course a lot more people hated Rise of Skywalker. Pretty much the closest anyone on that sub gets to saying any of those were good movies is saying, \"The Force Awakens established so little about the story that someone totally could have made a decent story from it instead,\" and I'd still call that too generous. Of course, few people say any of them have zero positive qualities, either, they're generally considered visually impressive, Adam Driver's performance is praised by most people, and everyone thinks that John Boyega definitely deserved better movies to act in. It's just that the plot, worldbuilding, and dialogue are, to be generous, abysmal.\n\nMeanwhile, I continue to collect the books that Disney de-canonized, and new mods for Empire At War keep coming out, so some parts of Star Wars are still alive and well.", "Wait you're telling me he isn't into trains?", "I mean even if cyberpunk was some indie game that suddenly just appeared on steam, it would get a bad reputation anyway. It really was shit when it was released", ">Some snowflakes just can't stand it when people like things that they don't.\n\nYeah OK, offering an opinion is now considered snowflake behavior.", "That tracks.", "Yeah, it's a different game with different mains, why would the writing and story be the same?", "I know, man. I'm just kidding.", "Considering I said I hadn't played any games in a long time, and was commenting on draw distances and graphics, why would you think I know anything about the god of war gameplay? I thought it was refreshing. So was the lack of a happy ending.", "I'm talking about the people who downvoted DazingF1 just for sharing their opinion.", "Yes", "Really? I've never really played pokemon so I wouldn't know.\n\nI like SMT V, it's progression system is very cool. It does exploration well. And the demons are interesting, if not entirely disposable. I'd give the game a solid 7/10. I just think it's overrated. The RNG of every combat encounter just devolves into a roulette of criticals and status effects. All the strategy and challenge in the game is just rng management. \n\nAnd the writing is just extremely bad. I know people say don't play it for the story, but that doesn't make writing this bad okay. I mean not only did an adult write all this, but it was approved and encouraged by the whole studio. And it's bewildering.\n\nIf this is what pokemon is like, I wonder what people find so addictive about it.", "Opoooooo", "Return of the Obra Dinn\n\nRimworld \n\nSpiritfarer\n\n...just off the top of my head. Your cynicism is honestly giving off troll vibes, if that's the case then 5/10", "Most video games don't really get into the cycle of violence. It's all just part of the story. You need to kill that guy because they're the bad guy. Between Call of Duty, Halo, Red Dead, GTA, Gears, Pokemon, Mario, Zelda, Metal Gear, Sonic, Assassin's Creed, Skyrim, BioShock, etc, you're just killing to kill because it's what the character does. The stories rely on that killing. Last of Us 2 was the first to make me go, \"aww fuck. I did that. I'm a dick.\"", "I think her decision makes complete sense from a trauma perspective. She doesn't decide to spare Abby because she finally realizes it's wrong, she spares her because that's the only moment where she is ever able to spare her; it's the only moment where she has control. \n\nA large part of why Joel's death is so traumatic for Ellie and the audience is that we are powerless to stop it. I think the game really tries to make you feel that by making you as the player unable to intervene. That was the first thing I thought when I got to that scene. I remember just wishing I could make Ellie do something even though I knew there was no scenario where Ellie could manage to overpower Abby and company. \n\nWhen Ellie confronts Abby again in Santa Barbara it's not like anything she wanted. Ellie's at the end of her rope and has abandoned her family all to fight an emaciated woman desperate to save an innocent boy whom Ellie must remember saved Dina's life. I don't think Ellie at that point really wants to kill Abby. She lets her take Lev to the shore and even tries leaving before realizing that she can't. It's very telling that she says the line \"I can't let you leave.\" Huge emphasis on can't. It's not that she doesn't want Abby to leave, it's not that she's not going to let Abby leave, it's that she cannot allow Abby to leave; It is a physical reality for Ellie. \n\nIt's only when she finally manages to overpower Abby that she gains control of the situation. It's finally her choice. Life or death. She's finally able to do what she wants and she doesn't want to kill Abby. I think that flashback's there to remind Ellie and the audience that part of Ellie's anger is misplaced. She's upset at Abby for robbing her of the time she could have had with Joel but she's also upset at herself for spending so much of that time being mad at Joel. In that moment I don't think Ellie wants to be the person who would kill Abby for her misplaced anger and I don't think she wants to be the person who would take Abby from Lev.", "Imagine how heartbroken he will be if Nintendo ever makes a DKC mobile game.\n\n(To Nintendo executives and shareholders: please pretend the above sentence does not exist, make a tropical freeze sequel instead)", "PSA there are extensions available to bring back the dislike numbers for pretty much all browsers:\n\nhttps://returnyoutubedislike.com/", "It's a great game. It's the most awarded game in history for a reason.", "Oh I agree with you. Hell, most of the games I still play are objectively awful but it's a game me and friends can play for 30minutes or 4 hours and catch up on life while we do it.", "Tbh you’d probably be disappointed with the story. The important thing is to play the game yourself and form your own opinion, not what other gamers and YouTubers tell you your opinion should be", "Oh man, if you don't know anything about Bioshock's story. I recommend finishing but if you didn't enjoy it, maybe read about it instead.", "Currently at 239k upvotes and 9.3k downvotes. \n\nhttps://returnyoutubedislike.com for the browser extension.", "Get over it; the death of YouTube began almost a decade ago when they removed the 5star rating system and the ability to view a videos rating on the thumbnail. \n\nIt made it so easy to tell which videos were trolls or pieces of crap not worth your time. Now the audience is completely cucked. \n\nThis was just the final nail in the coffin in a list of a thousand grievances as YouTube has steadily gotten worse and dumber.", "No you will not. It is the oldest and still plays like the oldest. (My least favorite) While they are all hard, the newer games definitely have overall quality of life improvements that just \"feel\" better.", "That's because his sense of humor is always ahead of the curve, or even defining. \n\nWho thought \"go big mode\" would be funny?\n\nOr could even come up with \"Donkey Kong December?\"\n\nHe's the triple threat of smart, funny, and good at writing videos.", "Right. I still want to have a general idea if a game is good, so those huge review threads with reviews from everywhere help give a good idea, or I'll just watch Skill Up, ACG, and Worth A Buy. Between those 3, I get a pretty good idea of what the game is like as they're all very fair and provide plenty of footage and gameplay that I get a very good idea without having things spoiled.", "What’s Skyrim? Never heard of it", "It wasn't entirely serious imo, because he did say \"the best story ever in a video game\" I think he was exaggerating a bit, but he does think it has a really good story.", "Nah, the hate started before the game was even out. \n\nA third of it's GOTY awards were reader's choice. https://www.gameawards.net/2020/09/2020.html", "Yoku's Island Express.", "What I meant was, initial marketing is great for generating hype, but I don't solely rely on that, obviously, because anyone is gonna make their game seem perfect, hence why I also said word of mouth. Talk to friends or small groups of like minded people (not hivemind threads) to get an idea of how the game is without the extreme exaggeration that comes with those hiveminds.", "The DK in Donkey Kong stands for DisliKe", "Yes, they had an outline when they should have had two full books.", "I mean Abby finds peace partly because she's able to spare Ellie in the first encounter. She would have ended up going to Santa Barbara if she had killed Ellie and then she would have been captured by the rattlers and not saved by Ellie. Also Abby hardly leaves unscathed considering literally all her friends died including Owen who she seemed pretty in love with. \n\nAbby finding peace enforces the violence begets violence message. She's able to let Ellie go and move on but Ellie can't do the same and suffers greatly for that inability.", "Idk about the lore or story because I don’t really care (I’ve heard it’s good but idk), but fromsoftware games have probably the best overall movement and boss fighting mechanics of any game I’ve ever played, that goes double for sekiro which just has insanely satisfying movement. It’s pretty much all about how you move, reading patterns and timing enemies attack windows etc. The learning curve is steep but once you get somewhat good at it the fights become extremely satisfying and you turn into a movement god. Hitting parries and dodging attacks perfectly is so rewarding. Building a character around the way you play is fun as well. \n\nAlso the sound design in Bloodborne and Sekiro is godly, only game I’ve played that came close was rdr2. The character designs in regards to the enemies are great throughout all their games as well. And dark souls 3 actually has pretty awesome 1v1 pvp scene if you’re into that. \n\nHonestly I think the difficulty of the games is not really praiseworthy and actually pretty fucking annoying. But I can deal with it because everything else I care about is near perfect. If you like rpg games with an emphasis on third person combat and movement you should try them out for sure. They are some of the few games out there that do almost everything right imo.", "Donky Kong December", "I agree that Martin should have had at least one book out but it doesn't matter a good show runner should be able to put out a good product from an outline.\n\nIt didn't have to be prefect, most people were fine with season 6-7 despite them being worse than the book seasons. It just couldn't be one of the worst final seasons to a show ever.", "\"i haven't watched a movie in 20 years and WOW why is nobody talking about how amazing the color contrast in Marvel movies is? It's unbelievable how many lasers and explosions they can fit on the screen, and in such astounding detail!\"", "It's a pretty facade over a broken, unoptimized, watered down version itself.", " - --- .-. - ..- .-. .", "[For the uninitiated.](https://youtu.be/OF9HLsPFfCw) This video is a roller coaster", "I think you've nailed a decent amount of it. Ultimately, it just comes down to everyone's interests; sometimes I like to hear/read what someone who is trained in writing has to say about a game, since they're often better at articulating their thoughts. Other times, I just want to know what an everyday gamer thinks about a game, so I watch a YouTube video instead.\n\nWith the rise of career YouTubers, the lines are certainly blurring, especially in terms of \"clickbait\" (though I think that term gets thrown around more than it should), but it's sometimes easier to get a more genuine (though often less succinct) opinion from a YouTuber than a journalist. For the latter, you're probably better off getting their opinions from podcasts, since those are usually released without any attempts at \"clickbait\" and is just their unfiltered thoughts (though sometimes overproduced).", "What was the point of disabling dislikes?", "That was gold.", "The other levels are there, but hidden. Install an extension to see them.", "They claim it's to keep small creators from being brigaded by dislikes, but it's pretty obviously to protect big companies from tarnishing their own reputation when they make some stupid fucking PR decision.", "I just realized maybe that’s why I didn’t really love the Witcher as much as everyone else. All those things you just listed I don’t really care about at all, I just want the game to be fun to actually play gameplay wise. And Witchers combat and gameplay was just ok nothing special. I think I was expecting more going in. \n\nFor me I forgot about most of the story and art direction of the Witcher shortly after I played it, but I still remember games like Doom Eternal because I had so much fun actually playing them. Probably put in more hours too, beating all the different modes and bosses on all difficulties and shit. \n\nHonestly I probably remember the story of FF7 remake better than the Witcher because I actually enjoyed the combat and movement in that game more. Even though the story and cutscenes are definitely not as good as Witcher’s. For me the gameplay is what makes a game memorable years later, not the animations, story or cinematic directing. Sure they are immersive and fun but if the combat and actual gameplay is then clunky and annoying it takes me right out of it. It’s one of the reasons I didn’t really like rdr2. I mean at least Witcher had decent combat lol.", "🎵Donkey Kong December🎵", "I disliked it because it doesn't matter now.", "Finally dunkey is free. And now I know who truly controls youtube.", "this crappy channel again?", "mad cuz bad", "this and only this. if they would give a damn about small youtubers - or any of them - they would make it optional.", "It triggered me when he said Shit Megami Tensei, but I saw he doesn't have any dislike so I guess he's the correct one. \n^^^/s ^^^obviously", "Jon tron moment", "Adult video game you play on a plane. The full title is Skyrim(job). 69% rating, would not recommend.", "The sub for that game (not r/thelastofus , the one specifically for the second game) is a literal hate sub. That's why it was started, to be anti-trans, misogynist garbage. Not even joking.", "SMT is a lot more depressing and cosmic horror-y, not even the last few hours of Persona compare to even the midgames of SMT.\n\nWe have so much cosmic-scale and/or wild shit like >!literally killing THE God with capital G, creation of whole new universes, alliance of gods from polytheistic religions battling against monotheistic religions, and more!!<", "👎", "Yeah some games you have to put quite a few hours into to get to the part where it’s really enjoyable. \n\nIt’s like learning to ski. If you get bored, impatient and quit when you’re still learning to stand on your skis in the flat area, you’ll never get to experience the joy of riding extreme terrain and powder in the mountains.\n\nI think it’s fine to try something and drop it if you don’t find it immediately engaging, it is your life after all. But by doing that you are probably missing out on some really great things, both in video games and otherwise.", "That admonishment is content, and players will do what they have to to see it. Doesn't matter how the game frames it.", "God, PLEASE make a Tropical Freeze sequel. The game is amazing, and I even double dipped on Wii U and switch with it's stupid higher price they shouldn't have done, but goddamnit the game is fantastic.", "This is literally the best content I've ever seen. Already **1.6M views** and ~~only 9.7K~~ literally zero dislikes! \nAmazing!", "You know what’s a good game?", "I like how you both recognize they're not journalists.", "Beeg bean burrito", "This is so hilarious because I have done and am still doing the exact same thing. Nice to know I’m not alone", "If I was chewing Cherios when he dropped that middle finger JPEG I would have lost my Cherios.", "I thought I could do that too but then I fell for the Cyberpunk reviews. How that game received perfect scores and 9/10 scores from many critics is beyond me. That game was a fucking mess and nothing in it even resembled an RPG. Thankfully I had it refunded but it made me wait a week or so to see audience reception to games before dropping money for a full priced game", "I'm still not sure if he loved or hated Metroid DREAD.", "Console skyrim kinda sucks. PC skyrim with mods and unofficial bug fixes is great.", "I see it more as Ellie was a dog chasing cars. It wasn't so much \"If I do this, there's no difference between me and her\", it was \"Oh my God there's no fucking point to any of this shit. I have caused so much destruction in my own life and the lives of others thinking that getting to where I am right now would bring me some kind of peace, but now that I'm here I'm realizing that this won't make me feel any better about Joel. It's just another destructive act.\" So she just gave up. It's like she had hyped this moment up so much in her head but realized it didn't at all feel like she had imagined.", "This is honestly a very weird topic. Video Game Journalism is absolute hot garbage, so I don't read any of it, but it's really weird that gamers have this criteria that gaming journalists need to be good gamers. \n\nIt's not like you'll watch an MMA fight and start shitting on the narrators for being average at best at the sport, or shit on Financial times writers for not having a strong personal portfolio. \n\nNot to mention that being super skilled at video games usually means being super skilled at a specific genre. Personally I'm probably decently skilled in RTSs as a whole and near the top in specific games in the genre, but I struggle to beat my 10-year-old nephew in some shooters. \n\nIt's also not the most desired viewpoint. Do I look for and then get annoyed when I find ways to exploit mechanics in my games? Yes I do. Do I think that is the majority way people approach their video games? No I do not. So I'm quite fine with simply having my own esoteric content creators that go into stuff like that for the games I'm interested in, and leave the mainstream sources to cover more general things.", "Never played Dark Souls 2 but Dark Souls 1 wasn't very good. Dark Souls 3 was fantastic though", "I know, but I still wouldn't be surprised if he found the vehicles clunky. I definetely do!", "You can comment \"dislike\" and have people like it, so that's something", "But then their algorithms can still use the Like datapoint. I've just stopped liking anything at all. Fuck their data collection and fuck their algorithms", "A.) Much of the point of that final arc is that Ellie was absolutely NOT justified and only still came out of her PTSD being manipulated by Tommy. This is made very clear in game as she otherwise planned to just live with the trauma.\n\nB.) Ellie was like a dog chasing a car. She didn't know what to do once she got there. She realized as she was enacting the revenge that it really wasn't going to give her anything because she didn't even know what she wanted at that point. Abby was on death's door and helpless, still had Lev with her, and Ellie SAVED her initially. She didn't know what she wanted at this point and the game shows like 5 times her hesitation to even go through with it or to just free them and let them go. That indecision didn't let up until arguably after she let them go.\n\nC.) There was always still a reason to kill the enemies, including the slave traders, as they would have actively killed her instead. Abby was helpless and tried to refuse the fight. Psychologically that is also a huge difference. It's far different to kill someone when you feel in danger vs. killing someone when there is no need.\n\nD.) Finally, she became empathetic. TLOU2 has several stories going on throughout the whole game of people mindlessly killing but becoming empathetic to an \"enemy\" that is helpless or nonthreatening. Abby does this with Lev and Yara, and it is the entire reason Owen found himself in the situation he did. I find it strange that people can make it to the end of the game and find this turnaround to be the one that is too questionable. But this shit happens in real life all the time. People can kill easily until they have a reason to be empathetic. Tribalism is a huge part of that, and is a huge part of the themes surrounding the game and its driving forces.", "I'm shocked they removed the dislike button before removing comments. If anything is a toxic cesspool it's the YouTube comments section. I think they should keep both, but if you're going to remove one then the comment section is the more logical choice.", "Life is hard for some people I get it", "Many years back, I was a mod for a small game's forums for a little while. It started out fine, then as the job of actually policing the bullshit people post got worse, it started to get to me. As a somewhat sane person, I stepped down and moved on with my life.\n\nIt takes a special kind of person to look at that job and what it takes, and wants to keep doing it.", "Don't worry, now we can have fake trailers with a 100% like rate.", "There is a chrome extension that allows you to see dislikes again:\n\n[https://returnyoutubedislike.com/](https://returnyoutubedislike.com/)", "\"... I've seen what makes you cheer\".", "YouTube staff is disabled", "The remastered Demon’s Souls is fairly easy compared to other Souls games. The hardest parts are the levels leading up to the different bosses and understanding the world tendency mechanic.", "Damn, time is fake", "pique", "Demon souls is way easier then the games that followed it. But certain elements of it might make it harder to get into", "I'm dumbfounded by watching that. Some people...", "Maybe people are just more prone to criticism nowadays. Like they complain now about stuff they wouldn't have complained about 6 years ago?", "These people are criticizing this game for not doing well enough something that it does better than probably any game ever made before it. I think when it first came out there was a lot of backlash that came from a sexist/homophobic/transphobic place along with a dash of the plot not matching up with their mind canon, then when people were called out on that they started making up a bunch of other flimsy reasons why the game isn’t good instead and some of those flimsy reasons have managed to stick around. \n\nI’m with you on the “did we play the same game?” thing. TLOU2 is the best example I can think of to justify video games as a medium for storytelling. The way it forces you to identify as both these people just isn’t something that can be done in any other medium. Even people who have never played video games before will intuitively refer to the character they’re playing as in the first person (“I just shot that guy”, “I just got killed”). Naughty Dog took advantage of that.", "OOTL, what's the story behind this?", "Donkey _ong December", "game was still bad though, just because a sub dedicated to it was very vocal didnt mean they didnt have 1 or 2 points that werent valid.", "Videogamedunkey a popular YouTuber released a video yesterday claiming he was celebrating \"Donkey Kong December\" where he'll upload a donkey Kong video every day this month, and this was his first one. Or rather second one if the announcement video counts.", "Gonna check it now. Thanks!", "Persona is about teaming up with your friends to kill demons, SMT is about teaming up with demons to kill your friends", "Coffee house hipsters whose parents aren't rich or connected enough to nepotism them into legacy media.", "as an avid gamer who loves playing games on high difficulty, I just can't play Souls games. it's not that they're difficult, it's that they're intentionally clunky as fuck for the time period they're in. you have that lovely trifecta of clunky combat, clunky navigation, and clunky progression.\n\nit's like when people say the original Resident Evil games are hard because the controls are fucking garbage - like, I guess that makes a bit of sense, but, I absolutely don't agree with it.", "I miss totalbiscuit", "I don't mind them playing games on easy mode.. I do mind when they don't actually have a grasp of the basics of the genre they are reviewing. IE I've heard things like professional reviewers complaining about lack of save points in a roguelike. Basic simple things that... just show a total ignorance of the genre.", ">art direction \n\nSubjective but I can think of a few games that I think would have better art direction.\n\n>cinematic camera work during cutscenes, facial animations\n\nThis is just wrong though. TLoU 2 has much better facial animations. As far as character and facial animation, TLoU 2 is at the top. RDR 2 also does it better than Witcher 3.", "Unironically agree with his Skyrim take here", "People are complaining about youtube removing the dislike counter (and deservedly so) but I have seen no recent complaints about reddit who did the same thing years ago", "So here's the ironic thing about my experience with TW3. I did not play the game until 2019. In order to prep for the game I read the entire book series and played TW1 and 2. \n\nFinally it was time to play TW3. I start playing it and immediately I am very engaged. Geralt finally got his memories back and needs to find and rescue his long lost love Yennefer? This is amazing! I'm immediately emotionally invested. Sure the gameplay is a little clunky but that's totally fine cuz that's not the focus of the game right? It's all about the cutscenes and character interactions. \n\nI'm 2/3 thru the game when TLOU2 comes out. I put TW3 on hiatus to play through TLOU2 in its entirety because I've managed to avoid all the spoilers that are apparently pissing half the internet off and I don't want to get spoiled now. \n\nHoly shit TLOU2 is on a whole different level from TW3. The way the game is presented is the most cinematic I've ever experienced in a videogame. With the graphics, the acting, presentation, everything combined makes it all feel so goddamn real. It absolutely blew me away. And on top of that the gameplay is really fucking fluid and fun! \n\nOnce I finished the game I went back and tried to continue playing TW3. I just couldn't. Everything I was impressed about when I first started the game was just completely second rate compared to TLOU2, I felt like I was playing an ancient game at this point. It took me several months with multiple long breaks to finally slog to the end of the game but by then it wasn't very enjoyable anymore.\n\nTLOU2 completely recalibrated my expectations for a story driven game. I felt a real emotional attachment with its story and characters that no other game has come close to. I literally bought an acoustic guitar because of it. I feel it will be a very long time until a story driven game can surpass TLOU2 in my eyes. Maybe it'll be when TLOU3 comes out!", "My golden rule about video games is if you enjoy a video game, never go to its subreddit.", "I loved the story of both TLOU and TLOU2. It’s definitely story driven but more so in the 2nd one the gameplay is fun. There’s a million ways to approach a situation and it’s extremely visceral. Not to mention they really stepped it up in terms of accessibility, I’m pretty sure a blind person could successfully get through it which is awesome. But again it’s very story driven.", "It's funny cause someone almost immediately made an extension for Chrome and Firefox that shows the dislike count with decent accuracy.", "Skyrim sucks.", "They really don't want their next youtube rewind to be downvoted. I do think it's cute that they are pretending and using the removal of dislikes \"something that empower the consumers and average person\" under oh its used for bullying and harassment. Hopefully people are seeing right through their lies.", "I find myself using less and less youtube even with ublock and sponsorblock, I'm starting to not enjoy it anymore, any alternatives?", "In what way is that my logic? Did you reply to the wrong comment?", "I'm not talking about Dunkey... Wtf? I'm talking about the guy who copied the top YouTube comment, the one at the top of this comment chain...", ">Just enjoy it because you like it.\n\nI do. I think there might be a bit of a misunderstanding here or I phrased what I was saying wrong in the first place. \n\nWhat I'm saying is enjoying enjoying a film, then later finding out people take your opinion as an insult and get angry at you for it is sort of a bonus. It's a confirmation that your opinion isn't tied to the masses or influenced by their resentment. If I happen holding an opinion on a subjective piece of art makes a group of angry man-children's blood boil, that becomes a relief and a confirmation I don't share their mindset.", "Do you trust a post more because of the karma of its poster?", "\"Welcome to my car review channel. I don't have a license, can't drive, and hate cars. First up is the... How do you pronounce this? Porch 9-1-1. It's shit. Look at it, ew, doesn't even resemble a horse. 7/10 worst car ever. Next!\"", "🎵Donkey Kong December🎵", "It also afforded him a happy and fulfilling life. And that karmic injustice is part of the reason that moved Abby to act kindly to Yara and Lev.", "A falling sand game? [We've had those for a while now.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falling-sand_game)", "As a massive fan of the series, I'd say no. Demon's Souls is really really hard. It was the last one I played and holy shit it's brutal.", "Honestly, I kinda do like the dislike hide, for the exact reason mentioned here. I know Dunkey himself knows more about it than me and this is just a bit, but some people think that leaving a dislike is going to function like a down vote and hide the bad content they don't like. But dislikes still count as engagement, so it would probably help the video.\n\n Promoting this system encourages and props up divisive inflammatory content, which is bad for you as an individual and bad for society.\n\nIt'd be better if they just didnt do that, but disincentivizing using the dislike button is OK as a half measure.", "I dunno, I mean, look at Celeste. The theme of that game revolves around overcoming insurmountable challenges, and the difficulty level of the game matches that theme. But Celeste still has accessibility settings for adjusting the difficulty, they're just hidden behind a message strongly advising to try the game without it, first. I don't think Dark Souls should have a dedicated easy mode, but better accessibility settings is never a bad thing, imo.", "I disliked the video. Is it because I am offended by this video? NO, IT'S BECAUSE IT DOESN'T EVEN COUNT ANYWAYS IDIOT.", "🎵Konkey Dong December🎵", "To each their own. I fuckin love this dude", "I dunno, i kinda like when YouTube suggests stuff to me that I'm actually likely to be interested in. \n\nYou ever go incognito or look up trending? There's some stupid shit on YouTube that's popular", "He's already taken :(", "There is also that SMT is the \"original\" and Persona is the \"spin-off\" (I'd personally argue they have grown into their own separate beasts, but they definitely both came from the same classic SMT games.)", "That line about the developers trying to one-up each other with increasingly lame special abilities had me in stitches", "The wheel of time TV show has already spawned a sub like that, whitecloaks...\n\nThe irony of them naming the sub after some real pieces of shit in the books isn't lost on me.", "So we're just posting other's popular content for likes?", "First time on reddit?", "I’m fucking dying this is one of the funniest videos I’ve ever seen", "The hate came from story spoilers being leaked (and this is the important part) with no context. Some very shocking events happen in the story. So when those story beats are leaked without the surrounding context, of course that would make some fans of the first game outraged. \n\nBut if you play the game and experience the story for yourself without any spoilers ahead of time, it's really good. Yeah stuff happens in the story that won't make everyone happy, but that's the point of the game. It takes place in a brutal world with imperfect people, not everyone is gonna have a happy ending.", "Say I won't do it. Say I won't do it. Say I won't do it.", "and goblins are real", "god no, dont play demon souls. demon souls might be \"easier\" combat wise, but they essentially dont tell you how to play the game at all, and its way less respectful of your time than the later games; the one level took me 6 mins to get back to the boss each time. so unless you read all about how to play, or google as you go, it just is a complete time waste.", "If you don’t care, then you wouldn’t comment. Take ur own advice.", "It is known.", "aside from the obvious tongue in cheek from the video, I honestly kind of agree with the dark souls bit: I've only played the first one but quickly learnt the genre is not for me. I only have X amount of time to devote into gaming each week so replaying the same area for an hour before I learnt how to get past it is kind of a waste. The trailers for the newer games all look super cool but I know that they don't include the 500 deaths it will take to get there in said trailer.\n\nBut that doesn't make them bad games, it just means that they aren't for me because there is a line between a difficult game and a game that seems to include \"aggravating the player\" as a feature", "Donkey Kong December Donkey Kong December Donkey Kong December Donkey Kong December Donkey Kong December Donkey Kong December Donkey Kong December Donkey Kong December Donkey Kong December Donkey Kong December Donkey Kong December Donkey Kong December Donkey Kong December Donkey Kong December Donkey Kong December Donkey Kong December Donkey Kong December Donkey Kong December Donkey Kong December Donkey Kong December Donkey Kong December Donkey Kong December Donkey Kong December Donkey Kong December 🍝", "The irony that BFV was absolutely eviscerated for its entire life cycle by The Gamers™️ for WOMAN and BLACKS when, despite not being perfect, was actually a pretty great BF game with a decent single player campaign and yet BF2042 had The Gamers™️ pogging and pissing and shitting from excitement based entirely on heavily scripted trailers despite their apparent abandonment of BF because WOMAN and BLACK only to turn out to be a fucking dumpster fire", "People do it so they can sell the Reddit account later, usually to advertising companies.", "The guy you’re replying to is a classic example of how people just did not get this story or else are just looking for reasons to nitpick it and say that it didn’t make sense or had inconsistent themes. \n\nHow can anyone even begin to propose that Abby didn’t suffer or got to walk away completely unscathed? All of her closest friends were murdered. We see her breaking down emotionally over and over again. She’s going to be carrying those emotional scars with her for the rest of her lives. The difference is that she’s realized that murdering more people won’t take those scars away. If anything it will only open up those old wounds again. \n\nAbby might have found peace in the end but that was only after she turned her back on revenge. That’s the whole point of the story. The revenge didn’t work, it only made her life worse. It was only when she gave up on the idea of getting revenge that she was able to find peace.", ">You fail, learn, do it again only better.\n\nI mean, if you're gonna abstract it away that far, sure. There is only one genre of video game and it's just manipulation of 1s and 0s. The number and position of those 1s and 0s is the only difference. Boom. Innovation is impossible.\n\nFuck outta here with that.", "I like how he didn't even have to make any jokes for half of it. He literally just said \"This is the game.\"", "Dunkey likes Key and Peele confirmed.", "This video would be even funnier if dunkey was vegan", "Having just done much the same thing, the big reveal in Bioshock is super interesting, but the game doesn't take as much advantage of it as it should and it doesn't get noticeably more interesting after that. Still worth finishing in my opinion.", "we live in a world where i can say “oh hell yeah, crungle mchungleberry posted the new videogamedunkey video. i’m loving donkey kong december so far” and it makes sense. this is the nonsense timeline and im cool with it. bring on the nonsense, baby!", "Based and nitpicking-pilled", "This video cracked me up, threw him a dislike for the hell of it 💀", "Donkey Dong December", "Eh, they still tailor it to which videos your watching, so not liking things wouldn't tank your recommendations", "Hey, r/freefolk is fun and harmless. It celebrates the actors and only picks on the awful writing of season 8.", "I don’t think they’re trying to lecture you or make you feel bad about anything. I think they’re trying to tell a story with two characters that are each other’s antagonists and by making you spend so much time in each of their shoes, it keeps you from dehumanizing your enemy. \n\nBefore I say this next thing, I want to say that when I say “you” I’m not talking about you, or really any one individual specifically. I’m talking about the detractors for this game in a general sense. You’re entitled to your opinions and your own personal taste. There’s just way too much backlash against this game to be explained away by little nitpicky gripes, while other games (that happen to have straight, cis male protagonists) get a pass. \n\nI’m not saying it’s flawless, but if you’re going to criticize the storytelling or the use of the medium for a game that is so clearly making a genuine, and I think successful, effort to take those things a level above what we’ve come to expect from mainstream video games, then I want to see that same scrutiny applied to other adored video games as well and see how they hold up. Otherwise I’m going to assume there might be something else you just don’t like about the game that you don’t want to blatantly admit to.", "I was going to drop a dislike on this video, but then I realized that there were zero dislikes on this video. It was at this moment I realized that I was nitpicking and biased.", "Seriously I played new world on release and I'm currently playing battlefield 2042 and yes I know the game's are \"bad\" but I don't need every single post telling me it's bad even though I'm still enjoying these games. \n\nI want browse Thier subreddits but it seems like 90% of all posts are negative hate train hivemind outrage posts and only 10% are either discussion or cool stuff that happened in the game. \n\nCan't tell you how many posts I've seen about the Santa Claus outfit and how many posts I've seen of the dwindling player numbers and they keep getting upvoted every single time its posted by somebody else.", "Look, we're all having a weird time. The past two years have changed the chemical makeup of our brains.", "If you get good at one, you’ll find it easy to pick up the rest. Except maybe Sekiro, that one is the most different.", "\"Your violence coming back to bite you\" is a violence begets violence narrative.", "I loved it, warts and all. I think it was just the lore and creature design that drew me in, plus the controls weren't that bad once you got used to them and figured out the poison/potion/trap mechanics which are kinda complicated.\n\nTBH tho i never actually finished it... \n\nfuck maybe I'm delusional", "Aiming and missing I can understand. For me personally they hit the bullseye, but I can conceive others disagreeing with that. But worst story ever (which is what some people argue - not you), I just can't see that.", "I will say that while they are both story driven games, TW3 is different in that it's an open world rpg with lots of decisions the player can make. TLOU2 is a linear story which is much easier to make what you said: cinematic, dramatic, etc. So it's a little bit of apples and oranges. \n\nNot knocking on TLOU2 though, that studio clearly knows how to make a compelling story.", "Probably because he's Black...\n\nedit: woosh", "Lmao I didn't catch the satire until the SMT5 bit. I caught myself thinking \"well he's got some good points about cyberpunk, Witcher, and skyrim. All 3 are buggy messes, but I still love them\"", "Youtube being youtube and fucking things up again, what a shocker", "That and the game had some very unfortunate leaks of critical, very spoiler-heavy, moments in the game. Seeing those moments with no context caused people to assume absurd things. And because the spoiler was of a very \"bold\" plot twist, the assumptions were made in unkind faith.", "I disagree. Dislikes are the one thing that immediatly tells you what the consensus on a video is.\n\nThere are a lot of videos on Youtube that are simply ass. They are terrible. Bad quality, boring, factually inaccurate etc.\n\nImagine looking up a video tutorial and you notice that most people disliked it. This means something is off, probably the tutorial doesn't work. Just saved you from not only wasting your time but also potentially doing damage while trying to follow the tutorial.", "Yes very true that's something I forgot to mention. Yeah it definitely is unfair to expect the hours on hours of cutscenes in TW3 to have the same production value as those in TLOU2. But nevertheless even though I mentally understood that I couldn't expect that from TW3, I still was unable to emotionally connect with TW3 after finishing TLOU2...curse you naughty dog for making such an amazing game!", "I overall like the game, but just not the ending.", "Sadly, even /r/patientgamers had a lot of trouble discussing TLOUII normally. but its gotten better at least", "Or ya know people just have different opinions and good games are completely subjective.", "I mean, they are morons.\n/s", "Bought Sekiro during the Steam Sale because I got delusions of skills after finishing The Surge 1 and 2 recently but dear fucking gods am I being put back in my place... T_T", "I don’t really agree with your take, but I think it’s a fair one. You are absolutely correct that your take wouldn’t be met with the same skepticism if it weren’t for all the sexist, homophobic, transphobic backlash it initially received. The problem is that following the blatantly hateful response, it received a disproportionate amount of criticism for really minor stuff that no other game even approaching its caliber would get, but still with a good dose of “why does it have to get political?” mixed in, which is odd because there’s nothing actually political in the game. \n\nLike you said, even with your criticisms it’s still a very good game, bordering on undeniably so. To say it’s overrated is one thing. To claim it’s not even good, and to have to hold it to an unreasonable standard that you’d never hold any other game to to make that argument, is suspicious. \n\nAgain, not accusing you personally of being anti-LGBTQ+, but when looking at the negative response to that game collectively in context with how other games tend to be evaluated, I don’t think there’s really a better explanation.", "RIP John", "That bass is where I went from ironically liking that song to unironically forcing my kids to listen to it on repeat", "🎵Donkey Kong December🎵", "The game is good, it's just the ending that is shit.", "yeah that seems about right", "It's you! The fastest Mario!", "Canceled my premier subscription, it’s a hot mess now.", "People will complain about this, and still use youtube and nothing will change. Tech companies will inch forward with shit like this for decades untill they basically controll public thought through social engineering. That's our future.\n\nEnjoy!", "I get that. I don’t want you to feel like we’re arguing—more just discussing. I don’t get the sense that your opinions are coming from a hateful place at all. Now if you were saying that those criticisms meant it was an outright bad game, while not holding other games to the same standards, then I’d be a little more suspicious. But I’m not getting that from you. \n\nWho I am getting that from, for example, are the thousands of people who dragged the users score on metacritic down to a 5.7. I think that’s absurd and not explainable by anything other that prejudice.", "Of course Petersonian sense i knew that", "One Piece is also for stupid people!", "Oh shit, sounds like you’re in the mood for Drama Friday!", "More like One Piece of Shit", "Bruv I didn’t know how badly jinx was Until I saw her. Blow everyone up to kingdom fck. \nOrigin story so wild", "Youtube gonna feel real dumb when users just comment \"dislike\" on every video and the comment gets all the likes.", "There is still an active hate sub with clear links to other gamergate incel bullshit. They review bombed and still harass people who like the game. If it were due to something less hateful it wouldn't still be happening, your delusional to believe its not largely aided by it. The gaming community is filled with edgy bigots and they all hopped on this train.", "Some people only have the media they consume and it’s kind of heartbreaking. Look at r/freefolk, I loooved them for the memes but now they survive solely on dwelling on hate.", "I get it, I had to wait a year before I felt like I could handle it again", "I think he was being honest there tbh, I feel like he switched over to satire once he mentioned SMT and P5 but then again, Dunkey did make a second Death's Stranding video that was 10 mins long that ends with him still hating the game", "No they aren't. They are getting enjoyment from the game, which is it's purpose. You don't like how they do it, I don't do it, but that doesn't make them wrong. Plus, the genocide path has good, compelling story content.", "Totally agree with you.\n\nThe discourse around this game is a mess, and there are plenty of valid reasons to criticize it, but I have a hard time connecting with complaints along the lines of \"I don't want to play as Abby because I don't like her\". To me that's not much different than saying \"Like you said, TLOU2 is one of the few games that uses the medium's strengths to its advantage. And its always funny to me that many people online are so insistent to proclaim that games are art, but a large subset of that group only seem happy to consume games that are thematically unchallenging and firmly within a narrow band of comfort for them.\n\nBut once again, I need to reiterate that my comments are in specifically in regard to a subset of people who disliked the game. I don't mean to paint all critics of it in this light.", "Don't forget that Joel killed has way out of a compound as a last resort. They knocked him out, kidnapped his surrogate daughter and didn't even honor their end of the deal. They were going to march him out of that compound and either kill him or leave him to die. Really shit circumstances haha. Despite all that, I probably would have been more on board with the whole switch perspective things if Abby was more relatable. But she tortured a dude that just saved her life with virtually no remorse. Tortured him for a LONG time. I couldn't get on board with that. Eye for an eye - I get that. But Joel didn't Torture her Dad. What she did was really off putting to me.", "ENTER AND WIN FREE PRIZEZZZ https://hybe.com/r/alexcody", "Didn’t help that the director leaned into it so hard. Absolutely everyone who had even the slightest criticism of that movie was called a manbaby by the director himself. Made fun of people for theorizing about what would happen. Was asked years later if he felt there had been any legitimate criticism from the time of release, and he said no.", "> To be fair W3 was the first game of theirs that really got popular to the masses\n\nThe Witcher 1 and 2 were already really popular games. They had sold a combined 8 million copies of those two games by 2014, a year before The Witcher 3 came out. TW3 sold way more of course, but the first two games were far from unknown...", "You're right, we've all been lying about enjoying the game this whole time. Everyone pack it in we've been found out.", "Still holds true. I mean I like what I like, sure. My taste is definitely different than it was when I was 14.", "I will kill Bowser.", "Did you really mistake Drama Monday for Drama Friday?\n\nThis is gonna be a huge drama between you and me now.", "Yeah, I come from more of an art background than a video game one and I’ve always thought the whole “can video games be art?” question is pretty asinine and pointless, because what people are really asking is “can video games be respected as an art form?” Not only are video games art, all video games are art, even the bad ones. What people really want is to validate the medium and you don’t do that without demonstrating what that medium gives you that others don’t. In my view, TLOU2 is one of the few games that prioritizes telling a story and actually uses the medium wisely to do that.", "…you do realize that shit largely died out before the game even launched, and that not everyone gave a shit about it in the first place, right? BFV itself being terrible didn’t exactly help though.\n\nAlso, you do realize that there’s a black person in 2042, right? Two, actually. One’s even non-binary. And yet the only people who complained are people who follow YouTube channels that make a living off outrage, and even they left within a week of that being clarified.\n\nPro tip: You’re allowed to have your own opinions instead of Jim Sterling’s sometimes. Damn their channel fell off a cliff…", "👎\n\nfeedback shared with content creator", "In my opinion, it's mostly because video games as a medium are still relatively young, and need to come into their own still (artistically, at least). I think there are parallels between where we are with games and the first few decades of film with sound. If you watch old old movies from the 30's to mid 50's, there's still a large stage and radio play influence on them, from composition to acting. It only really changed until guys like Brando came along and acted for the screen and less for the stage that we got the more naturalistic acting style that works better for film. I think the same thing applies to games, where most narrative driven projects lean too much on film as a reference. Stuff like the Uncharted games were good fun, but they're far too rooted in Hollywood movies to really take advantage of the medium. Last of Us 2 was the first time it felt like Naughty Dog was trying to do something that leveraged the interactivity of games.", "Like, I hate the new Star Trek shows. You know what I do? I just dont watch them. \n\nOh yeah Freefolk was hilarious during season 8. Now I think they're the only people who still even think about that show.", "That's just hyperbole for sure. It was a letdown for me after the highs of the first game and even if I try to look at it as a standalone story I think it has some flaws. But I've seen worse stories and worse sequels. It was fine, it just wasn't great, and in the context of the series as a whole it was a disappointment.\n\nPeople definitely find it easier to hate something they had high expectations for though. It's both easier to enjoy something that you have no preconceptions about but also harder to hate it. To hate something you generally have to be invested in it, and if you play a bad game that you had no previous interest in you're probably just going to forget about the experience. But if you play a sequel to something you enjoyed you're going to be mad if it isn't as good as the original. TLoU2 gets as much vitriol as it does in part because of how well loved TLoU was.", "#🎵DONKEY KONG DECEMBER🎵", "Did anyone else dislike his video because good soldiers follow orders?", ">Meanwhile, I continue to collect the books that Disney de-canonized, and new mods for Empire At War keep coming out, so some parts of Star Wars are still alive and well.\n\nI love the EU aswell, I'm re-reading through it again now for the first time in years (last one I read before life got busy was Shadows of Mindor, Cronal is a great villain), I played Empire at War a lot last year, and at the same time I still maintain that The Last Jedi is the best and most interesting film in this franchise since Return of the Jedi.\n\nThe two things aren't mutually exclusive. People need to either learn how to be more discerning, or to grow a pair and be unafraid to form their own opinions.", "his train / bird type of video was the greatest. \n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0qIgPIDy00", "Im glad dunkey can insult us without ever seeing dislikes truly game of the year", "Some of his points are my actual opinions though. Like Skyrim and the Witcher were not great to me.", "He actually do love TLOU2 a lot.", "The criticisms are so funny because they're all super subjective like \"They ruined the story\" or \"I'm mad about Joel\" or \"The characters don't do what I want them to do\".\n\nThe gameplay itself is, IMO, incredibly good. Probably the best stealth I've ever experienced in that style due to how the enemy AI works.\n\nIt's also a game I never want to play again because it actively tries to make you feel like garbage and it succeeds.", "fucking lmao. are we really at the point of pretending the absolute cacophony of misogynistic and racist shrieking that followed bfv's entire existence just didn't happen? \n\n\nand funny of you to bring up jim....what exactly was it exactly about the ultra camp androgynous anti-capitalist video game commentator's content that went \"\"\"\"\"\"\"\"\"\"\"\"downhill\"\"\"\"\"\"\"\"\"\"\"\"\"\"\"\"\"?", "Careful of the mind goblin especially", "Yeah but let's not forget that what appealed to a lot of people in /r/freefolk was spoiling the show for people who hadn't seen it yet.", "Both are stupid weeb garbage. Japanese games outside of a few Nintendo titles suck massive cock.", "I've been playing since Battlefield 3. It feels just like 3 and 4 to me and my boys and that's all that matters tbqh.", "Look at God of War, Hades, Returnal, and Control. They're all challenging games, but they are fair to the player. They're all really good too.", "She just started generalizing more and more over the years until eventually the list of enemies went from “greedy corporate CEOs with unchecked power, those who manipulate people for personal gain, and extreme bigots or others with disgusting ideologies” to “literally every male over the age of 12 and anyone else who isn’t directly involved in politics” and that’s when I checked out entirely.\n\nAnd no, none of the above had to do with the transition. It started later than that, around late 2019 or so.", "Ooh, are we shitting on TW3? Let me join!\n\nPeople jerk off that game's story, which is sad because the story is kind of shit. It feels like the most generic YA wish fulfillment crap ever. None of the characters are likable, Geraldo is the most boring protagonist ever and it seems like every female character is a supermodel whose greatest desire is to have sex with him. Other than a few standout missions, everything else feels like it was designed to appeal to teenage boys as much as possible.", "What was that music from? I know it, but can’t place it and it’s driving me crazy haha", "Disable dunkeys annoying voice", "I discovered dunkey about 2 weeks ago and can't stop binging his videos. This dude is HILARIOUS. Leave a dislike, I can't see that shit. Hahahaha", "I just beat Uncharted 3 last night for the first time, this might be a good sub for me lol.", "He's fucking hilarious to me. I just discovered him like 2 weeks ago. Every video he makes makes me laugh out loud. And that's pretty rare for me. I might breathe out of my nose at most funny things, but to me he's hilarious", "No you didn't. I just checked and there are no dislikes on it at all.", "I'm in the same boat. I don't really have the time to \"git gud\". I watched 2 YouTube videos on how to make the game easier and they helped me tremendously. It helps lessen the learning curve if you know what you should do to dodge, level, etc", "Ultimate Skyrim has been in my top 5 favorite videos on the internet since I first saw it all those years ago", "Nah fam. I disliked this thread instead", "If they make a sequel you can thank me then. If the sequel is a mobile game then that wasn't me", "Speak for you, i got the addon.", "Dankey-Kang MASTA-PIECE!!", "Freefolk was a wild ride during the last season.", "That works better if you don’t watch the video and see that it looks exactly how it looks on pc.", "Correct, I do not have a PS4.", "Haven't seen it yet, I'll go watch it now!", "I wonder if people will stop liking videos as much since it seems pointless in a way now when you don’t see the dislike ratio.", "I chose a bad time to learn the unreal engine", "I'm just not built to enjoy everything. When I grew up in Canada, skiing was part of the curriculum, I never found it fun.\n\nWhen I say I don't enjoy the Witcher 3/Skyrim, people get very defensive because they hear me saying that their favorite game sucks, but all I'm really saying is that I do not enjoy the things that fans enjoy about the Witcher 3/Skyrim. Not because they're not enjoyable, just because I lack the capacity to enjoy those things.", "It certainly gives more validity than a post from a zero karma account.", "Don’t talk about Sleeping Beauty like that.", "Persona 5 (Royal maybe? I never played vanilla)", " I was thinking about why so many in the radical left participate in speedrunning the reason is the left's lack of work ethic ('go fast' rather than 'do it right') and, in a Petersonian sense, to elevate alternative sexual archetypes in the marketplace ('fastest mario'). Obviously, there are exceptions to this and some people more in the center or right also \"speedrun\". However, they more than sufficient to prove the rule, rather than contrast it. Consider how woke GDQ has been, almost since the very beginning. Your eyes will start to open. Returning to the topic of the work ethic... A \"speedrunner\" may well spend hours a day at their craft, but this is ultimately a meaningless exercise, since they will ultimately accomplish exactly that which is done in less collective time by a casual player. This is thus a waste of effort on the behalf of the \"speedrunner\". Put more simply, they are spending their work effort on something that someone else has already done (and done in a way deemed 'correct' by the creator of the artwork). Why do they do this? The answer is quite obvious if you think about it. The goal is the illusion of speed and the desire (SUBCONSCIOUS) to promote radical leftist, borderline Communist ideals of how easy work is. Everyone always says that \"speedruns\" look easy. That is part of the aesthetic. Think about the phrase \"fully automated luxury Communism\" in the context of \"speedrunning\" and I strongly suspect that things will start to 'click' in your mind. What happens to the individual in this? Individual accomplishment in \"speedrunning\" is simply waiting for another person to steal your techniques in order to defeat you. Where is something like \"intellectual property\" or \"patent\" in this necessarily communitarian process? Now, as to the sexual archetype model and 'speedrunning' generally... If you have any passing familiarity with Jordan Peterson's broader oeuvre and of Jungian psychology, you likely already know where I am going with this. However, I will say more for the uninitiated. Keep this passage from Maps of Meaning (91) in mind: \"The Archetypal Son... continually reconstructs defined territory, as a consequence of the 'assimilation' of the unknown [as a consequence of 'incestuous' (that is, 'sexual' – read creative) union with the Great Mother]\" In other words, there is a connection between 'sexuality' and creativity that we see throughout time (as Peterson points out with Tiamat and other examples). In the sexual marketplace, which archetypes are simultaneously deemed the most creative and valued the highest? The answer is obviously entrepreneurs like Elon Musk and others. Given that we evolved and each thing we do must have an evolutionary purpose (OR CAUSE), what archetype is the 'speedrunner' engaged in, who is accomplishing nothing new? They are aiming to make a new sexual archetype, based upon 'speed' rather than 'doing things right' and refuse ownership of what few innovations they can provide to their own scene, denying creativity within their very own sexual archetype. This is necessarily leftist. The obvious protest to this would be the 'glitchless 100% run', which in many ways does aim to play the game 'as intended' but seems to simply add the element of 'speed' to the equation. This objection is ultimately meaningless when one considers how long a game is intended to be played, in net, by the creators, even when under '100%' conditions. There is still time and effort wasted for no reason other than the ones I proposed above. By now, I am sure that I have bothered a number of you and rustled quite a few of your feathers. I am not saying that 'speedrunning' is bad, but rather that, thinking about the topic philosophically, there are dangerous elements within it. That is all.", "you'd better go clean your room, bucko.", "What’s the point of having likes if there are no dislikes?? 1 million likes with 34 million dislikes is a lot different than 1 million likes by itself. Without the dislikes to compare to likes it’s irrelevant, just count the views then, and even still", "After my daily glass of cider.", "So you're not allowed to dislike something because other people who don't like it are bad people?", "When it's largely led by gamergate incels? Fuckin duh. Toxic as fuck bigots, if you spend time in the community then you know.", "I agree with most of what he said", "I’ve only really started liking videos I enjoyed this past year and before that I was still always getting recommendations that fit my taste.", "Classic reddit, comments \"this\" instead of using the upvote button.", "What argument, you haven't even seen the video how would you know what the argument is or if there even is one?", "Purposeful ambiguity is the point I think. I too was recently watching a dunkey video and I came out far more confused than when I went in b/c he does serious reviews with humorous sprinkles and he also does pure troll reviews with serious sprinkles. \n\nNot sure if interspersing trolling and meta inside jokes is sustainable as far as content goes but I'm not a zoomer and I'm not gonna tell him how to run his business\n\nPlus I love his videos.. The serious ones and the joke ones and the ones in between", "If you watch back and see some of his game reviews, if he gives a game a 4/5 it means he thinks it's an excellent game that you should probably buy and would enjoy if you have similar tastes to his\n\nAnd yes.. Even that is a bit of a troll poking at IGN and other sites but it does mean he really thought the game was very good", "You can fuck with the youtube algorithm by only disliking videos and and leaving videos you like neutral.", "Jesus christ you guys are fucking autistic. Its a fucking dunkey film one of the most silliest youtubers out there obviously im not watching it for his counterpoints.", "You only see forests my friend, never trees", "[Things That Go “Bing” With President Trump](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgwr9r36zIU)", "They kind of are mutually exclusive, though. Either one timeline is canon or the other is. I know which one I'm choosing, but of course Disney keeps pushing theirs everywhere they can.\n\nAs for the idea that people need to \"be unafraid to form their own opinions,\" I am. After all, you're the one siding with all the film critics. I formed my opinions in direct response to seeing the material, I even have a comment on the thread for TFA's trailer on r/videos saying it looked discouraging, which of course was heavily downvoted at the time. Things I noticed while watching TFA were a complete absence of discussion of the actual political situation in the galaxy which severely hampered the plot, the incredible laziness of making all the designs almost the same but slightly different (the same thing JJ Abrams did in Star Trek, a failure which should have badly damaged his career), the fact that the major character death was caused by a continuity error, the fact that the supposed new Force wielding hero seemed to have all the emotional control of a Sith, while the villain had the emotional control of a toddler, and the fact that it made no sense for the First Order to be both a minor fringe threat unworthy of notice by most and to have the resources to build the biggest superweapon yet. And for TLJ to start with \"the First Order reigns\" after we just watched all those resources get blown up, no, that's just dumb. Also dumb, Leia saying it's \"impossible\" for them to have been tracked through hyperspace while wearing a bracelet intended to allow them to be tracked through hyperspace, a fact which is never discussed. And of course she did know it was possible for them to be tracked back in Episode IV. Then random mechanic no one trusts with a blaster says, \"I know exactly how to do that,\" and random black stormtrooper says, \"yeah, I cleaned that room too so I know all about it.\" That second one especially, leaving aside the blatant racism, it was a stretch to do it once, doing it twice was just absurd. And then you've got the bombers that were designed to die, flying slowly in their weird, level formation that helps several of them get taken out at once. These are just some of the obvious, surface-level problems that I recognized during my first and only viewing, but more than enough to consider them bad movies. I managed to get out of seeing Rise of Skywalker, which was a relief.", "Next year, they plan to roll out a program where every YT Creator, irregardless of likes, subs and views, will get a \" Participation \" ribbon.", "People are still losing their minds and rehashing the same arguments for and against tlou2. \"I liked tlou2 so that must mean I'm just a dumb donkey who doesn't understand a good or bad story when I see one.\" \"I hate tlou2 so that means I'm an incel homophobe who hates anything lgbtq+.\"\n\nIt's a divisive game, obviously. In our modern world of short attention spans especially when it comes to ideologies and opinions, why is it that so many people can't seem to move on past this one? This game is now a year and a half old. I'll be honest, I've had a harder time moving on from it, too. Shouldn't we, though?", "I'm a normal guy, I do IT work!", "This comment thread really makes you feel like a commenter.", "I was someone who avoided the sequel because of the leaks and the overall controversy that ensued and here are a couple of reasons why without getting to heavy into spoilers:\n\n1. There were rumors of the staff being overworked to meet the deadline of the game. It was wrong when CDProject Red did it with Cyberpunk 2077 and it was wrong when Naughty Dog did it for The Last of Us: Part 2\n\n2. Very close to launch it was apparent that Sony or Naughty Dog were engaging in borderline [false advertsing](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7wBbAYSawo). It is implied in some of the earlier trailers that a lot of the story follows Ellie alongside Joel once again, but their time together is limited mostly to flashbacks in Part 2\n\n3. Both entries for TLoU are very story driven. Even though both had multiplayer modes, the replay-ability for both games are very low because the outcomes will always be the same in every play-through. I could justify this for Part 1 because it was included with my PS4 and I did enjoy it, but I did not play through Part 1 again. Since Part 2 was $60 at launch, I personally couldn't justify spending that much for something to only play through it once as well. \n\nBy all means if you're able to get this game at a discount try it yourself and see what you think. From what I've been told the gameplay is excellent, building on the first one and taking elements from The Uncharted series as well. But know that there are valid reasons why some fans of the first Last of Us avoided its sequel.", "> I've killed dozens if not hundreds of people to get to you, but for some reason I can't kill literally the only person I actually explicitly wanted to kill in this situation because then we'll be exactly the same. Somehow\n\nBut this isn't what happens. She isn't killing those people on the way out of revenge. She's killing them because they want to kill her. They are obstacles. It is a mutual \"kill or be killed\" situation. When she find the one she \"wants\" to kill, that person doesn't want to kill her in return. That person is done with her. She forces the conflict.\n\nAnd when she stops, it has nothing to do with \"then we'll be the same\". Ellie doesn't give a shit about that. What she realizes is that it won't ever fill the hole that got punched in her when Joel died. Nothing she can do to hurt this person is ever going to make her memories of Joel hurt any less. She's just digging, and it's hurting her, and she realizes that, and she decides to stop. Since the showdown with Abby in Seattle, it hasn't been about revenge. It might never have been about revenge. It's about Ellie being a person with PTSD and unimaginable levels of survivor's guilt using violence as an outlet for grief because it's been the background noise of her life since she was 12, and it isn't working, but it's all she knows. \n\nSometimes I feel like people deliberately misunderstand the game to make themselves feel better about not liking it. If you got to the point in the game where Ellie finally finds Abby, and she agrees with her in her motivations to kill Joel, and tries to turn herself over to die in Tommy's place, and you're still like \"Oh yeah, this is straightforward revenge\", your high school English teacher would be very disappointed with you.", "So you were hoping the comments would be discussing the validity of his argument, but you didn't actually think there was an argument... What the fuck are you talking about?", "Uh. Ok?", "What the fuck are you on about dude? I said \"who cares\" about people karma farming if no one loses out... In what way does me writing a comment mean I am worried about karma farming? You know that's what \"who cares?\" means right?", ">The genesis of Abbey's violence was Joel not fully following through on murdering a bunch of civilians and not clearing out the entire hospital.\n\nUnless of course, there were members of the Fireflies who weren't in the hospital at the time of his rampage who would come back and then seek revenge. Which is exactly what happened. \n\n>The only person left alive who would conceivably try to take revenge for Abbey is conveniently unconscious in a boat like 20 ft away. That's your win right there. \n\nWell him, and roughly the other 50 or so people Ellie killed and all the people related to them. That's kind of the point. Actions have consequences and so if you decide to take a life, justified or not in doing so, that will have repercussions somewhere down the line. \"Even the wise cannot see all ends\" and such.\n\nThe problem in your logic is \n1. That there's no way of knowing who has a relation to who when you're just murdering random people and thus no way of knowing when to stop killing because any one of those people could have had a relationship with others. So \"don't let anyone else survive\" is pretty much impossible because \"anyone\" might as well be \"everyone in the world\" as the only way to be sure.\n2. That the person is even capable of killing everyone, which is easier said than done.", "Not everyone is supposed to enjoy everything lol, don’t worry about not liking stuff. There’s plenty of shit I would never enjoy or try. I will say though, I’ve suffered my way through the first 10-20 hours of many games (and other things I wasn’t interested in) and am glad I did, because if I didn’t I never would have found some of the things I really enjoy. \n\nYou say you do not enjoy the things that fans enjoy about these games, but you don’t even know that. Because you never even played far enough into them to get to those things that people enjoy. I mean 15 minutes into those games is like barely past the first cutscene lmao. \n\nIt’s not that you lack the capacity to enjoy things others do, it’s that you lack the capacity to stick with something for longer than 15 minutes to see if it gets any better.", "I actually don't understand the need for everything to have one canon. \n\nI prefer there just being a multitude of stories that exist out in the ether. Who cares what's official? In my opinion, everything after Return of the Jedi is just fun \"what if?\" scenarios anyway.\n\nAs for the rest, sorry, I'm not reading that monolith of text.\n\nIf you're trying to form arguments, please learn to paragraph.", "Wildest take I've ever seen involving Star Wars, and that's saying something. XD", "The single massive canon was a lot of the fun of Star Wars to me. Hundreds of stories across thousands of years all fitting together almost perfectly. That's incredibly rare, and adds enormously to the immersion of the whole thing.\n\nI'm afraid your complaints about my formatting lose something when yours is so poor. In any case, it was meant to be a short list of only the most obvious issues, but when you start listing them you quickly end up with a lot.", "Link it", "[Return Youtube Dislike Chrome](https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/return-youtube-dislike/gebbhagfogifgggkldgodflihgfeippi)\n\n[Return Youtube Dislike FireFox](https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/return-youtube-dislikes/)", "AND A SECOND DANCE SEQUENCES?! amazing.", "omg ty so much for sharing this", "lmao so the thing people publicly berate them for doing (which totally isn't just a guise for transphobia) ISN'T why the Gamers hate them so much? \n\n\nIf the message you've been getting from them for the last two years is \"i hate men, men bad\" then that says an awful lot about you, bucko.", "I think he’s fully serious about TLOU2 and Witcher 3, partially about Skyrim, and fully joking about the rest." ]	1,182	videos	videogamedunkey - Dislikes are Disabled
https://youtu.be/I93RFzrPQqw	/r/videos/comments/r7l10s/imho_this_trailer_was_the_height_of_the_got_era/	[ "Yeah, my head-canon is that the show ended with Daenerys setting sail for Westeros.", "It reminds me of FMA. The original show ended before the manga had an actual ending.", "Sigh", "Martin is too busy blogging about football for that." ]	4	videos	IMHO, this trailer was the height of the GOT era. We have to go back.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zk872ERRVxA	/r/videos/comments/r7l18l/how_a_nytimes_reporter_collects_royalties_from/	[ "I feel like I should be able to get this information without having to watch a 20 minute video, and that it could probably be summed up in a short paragraph..Anyone have the tldw;?", "Why don't you go get the tl:dr for us", "Ian Urbina wrote a book. He wanted to have an accompanying soundtrack for the book. He contacted tons of musicians and promised them publicity and all other kinds of wonderful things. His contract then states there is no guarantee for those things. There is supposed to be a 50/50 split between him and the artist but this is after money is deducted for promotional reasons. The split ends up being 98.5 to 1.5 with the artist getting royally fucked. He signed hundreds of artists for thousands of songs with all of them making basically nothing for their work.", "You are the hero I needed :D", "God damn this is fascinating. Sucks for those artists, especially the ones that thought this was their first big break/moment.", "I do not work in any kind of creative or artistic industry, so I don't really know what's \"normal\", but the language Ian used in his emails immediately set of sirens in my head. \n\nThe moment I would have seen that Synesthesia didn't have a website, I would have had even more wary and would have sought out information on their business before moving forward. When they were incorporated, who the company is owned by, have they been through any bankruptcies or other major restructuring, was it constructed as a way side-step a previous company going bankrupt, what other artists or record companies have they partnered with or consulted for?\n\nHow did not a single one of the artists or their agents think to do the slightest amount of digging into the unknown parties involved in the deal? Is it not common for artists to have detailed information about every major entity involved that's investing in or hoping to profit from the deal?", "I'm sure many artists/agents did some digging. It's just that these artists are the ones that accepted the deal. Also, many artists don't have agents, they many not have the funds or they may not want to give up some of their artistic control.", "It's depressing that Buzzfeed did a better job covering a story than the NYT", "I think the key piece of the con here was that it was coming from a successful NY Times reporter. It wasn't just some rando off the street, so there wasn't an immediate feeling of this being a scam/swindle. You tend to dig in a little less when it's not as obvious of a scam.", "Quick check of your comment history shows that you are a wonderful person with no biases whatsoever.", "😂😂", "The second article was published two years later. Of course more information is revealed by then. In the first article NYT also quotes the spokeswoman's reasons for them killing the Climate and Health program - they didn't state anything about a public official's misbehaviour. Instead she framed it as part of a broader reorganization.\n\nI'm not sure what point you're making.", ">I'm not sure what point you're making.\n\nNYT bad.", "Well yeah and then there’s the whole Russiagate thing which is slowly being unravelled by the FBI and getting zero coverage now…", "Listen, I didn’t watch the video and I am a little bit drunk, but I am an IP and contracts lawyer so take this for what it’s worth. From what you said, I think one of the musicians with a half-decent lawyer could sue this guy and win maybe 50% of the time. Even something like a quantum meriut claim might have some legs. Generally speaking, courts (especially lower courts) don’t like deceptive contracts and will lie against them as a matter of equity. But again, I’m a tad drunk and don’t really know the facts here so, ya know, take everything I say with a grain of salt.", "Okay, but what do you think about _this_ video?", "There's a little over a year between the articles. All of the information about any topic is not immediately known from the onset. The New York Times has since covered his reasoning for being fired. Why didn't Buzzfeed cover the initial firing?", ">calls us sheep\n\n>vomits NYT articles in support, unrelated to main topic", "Damn, the fact this guy is a money grubbing grifter really makes me rethink the motives and veracity of his work. I remember reading Sea Slaves when it was first published and feeling like somebody had opened my eyes to this dark and shameful cost of modern life.\n\nI just went back and reread it and now it reads like Mr. Daisey and the Apple Factory, the story This American Life had to retract because of embellishment and fabrications by the author. Now I totally believe this guy would play fast and loose with the stories people were telling him if he thought it was going to get him a paycheck.", "the promotional deductions are going to a company run by Ian, so he's skimming both sides", "Wouldn't 360 deals be illegal then if this was considered deceptive? Don't think you can sue for it.", "It was a good video. Up the speed to 1.5.", "#", ">The moment I would have seen that Synesthesia didn't have a website, I would have had even more wary and would have sought out information on their business before moving forward. When they were incorporated, who the company is owned by, have they been through any bankruptcies or other major restructuring, was it constructed as a way side-step a previous company going bankrupt, what other artists or record companies have they partnered with or consulted for?\n\nSo you would have underwritten them. I figure musicians aren't typically that savvy.", "Buzzfeed may not have thought that the initial firing was newsworthy; however, that seemed to change when sexual allegations were brought up.", "A soundtrack for a book? Does the book come with built in speakers?", "Pedantic games. They did not explicitly quote her but relayed what she said.\n\n> This reporting is based on more than 1,000 pages of emails, calendars, text messages, sworn statements, internal CDC documents, and recordings, as well as interviews conducted by BuzzFeed News. Four of the complainants are going on the record publicly for the first time.\n\nYou want the NYT to magically get the scoop on reports that take this level of investigation? I mean feel free to shit on them but your post is horseshit.", "Why would an industry standard deal be considered deceptive in the first place?", "Yeah, three minutes into this video and I realized I'm still just listening to him provide disclaimers about what it is that he's about to tell me....", "Buzzfeed: 99.9% choose from ten different types of pasta and we'll tell you what your favorite dog breed is, 00.1% groundbreaking journalism.", "If you think musicians don't work very hard, you need to pay more attention.", "It sounds likely that this guy misunderstood the stated purpose of the project, which was to create a fusion of reporting and music; the reporting is the field recordings. This guy mentions them several times as if he didnt understand what they were or why they were there. So it could have been he just didnt get it. It could also be a complete scam. There's probably no way to know. At 12:15 when he says he assumed the the two collaborators are the artist and Ian \"for supplying the recording of the boat or something\". To me this sounds like he is trying to down play the field recordings or his understanding of them. It just sounds disingenuous. It also sounds like he didnt do due diligence. Some things sounded shady to him and he didnt get them resolved or worked out in a contract. He didnt bother to find out who the Synesthesia was until after it was over. He didnt even ask who was involved. \n\nAlso, when you're trying to hide your scam, you usually dont register your LLC to your wife and give your home address. This is all very plausibly a misunderstanding between a man who thinks he had a great idea and thinks of himself as an artist and the kind of guy who started up an entire project by pulling on his own boostraps; and, a musician who maybe should have someone else handle his business. \n\nAs for how little the artists get paid-- this is the truly messed up part. But, even with this, it seems like it is not just Urbina who is taking a piece of the pie-- its all the other entities involved. The music industry sucks. Spotify sucks. \n\n\nAt least this guy got a little attention and plugged his spotify presence. If it were me, I'd probably be off spotify for good.", "When I read this I had Rick Sanchez's voice in my head.", "He's saying that if the deal is unfair but sounds good then you can sue. Maybe you can but it either doesn't apply here or nobody ever in the history of music has tried.", "Check out his music, The Flashbulb, or watch [this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WQSCE0Blro&t=1s) and you might feel differently. The dude is talented and prolific.", "Imo one of the most damning parts is the promotions company he \"partnered\" with which was actually owned by his wife. \n\nI can't even believe this video ended with an olive branch. This was so clearly very intentional.", "As I was watching this, only one thing came to mind. This is like someone using a lint to trade up to a car. His lint was being a NYT reporter and from there he just reeled in bigger and bigger fish. Not sure what his status is as a NYT reporter but any reputable employers would have fired his ass for basically using his employment status to make financial gains.", "Look, Trump sucked shit, get over it.", "He has worked very hard unless you think making and publishing dozens of high quality albums, doing commissions for films/television, and even teaching music is not hard work. I think you're confusing hard work with unrewarding work.", "I think also worth mentioning: From the evidence in the video he also treated each artist as if he was a big personal fan, and didn't mention all the other (hundreds!) of artists he was contacting with the same spiel.", "Using his @nytimes.com email address to scam musicians? I hope he loses access to that address very soon.", "Found Ian Urbina's burner account", "\"I am going to assume something of a complete stranger whom of which I watched for a few minutes in a video.\"", "The video creator is way too generous in not calling this guy and his wife shit-sucking scammers.\n\n The NYT journalist leveraged his position to get in the door. Then he proposed a contract where a third party company (secretly owned by his wife) would spend $50k promoting 'the Project.' The project included all artists snagged by this lie, which was very much not disclosed.\n\nFurther, the journalist hooks artists with the promise of it being of interest to these large media companies in relation to his popular articles. E.g he says it would surely be of interest to Netflix, but in the most vague and intentionally deceptive language. This isn't a guy who thought he was helping artists getting out of control. This is a deliberate scam.", "> an accompanying soundtrack for the book.\n\n🤔", "Sounds like \"Hollywood accounting\".", "Had some respect for Ian Urbina after reading Outlaw Ocean, which, as the youtuber said, is fantastic. But wow, what a cunt", "[ Jump to 10:12 @ How A NYTimes Reporter Collects Royalties From Hundreds of Musicians](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zk872ERRVxA&t=0h10m12s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: Benn Jordan, Video Popularity: 99.55%, Video Length: [20:03])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@10:07](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zk872ERRVxA&t=0h10m7s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^\| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)", "Ah yes. A mouse click is so hard. It was so frantic the way I clicked on his name.\n\nIt's hilarious how you made a new account just for this", "I bet he emailed thousands, if not tens of thousands of artists to catch this many in his net.\n\nHe's a journalist and has a name for himself, a wiki page, and a New York Times best seller. So you can see how he might have seen reputable and trustworthy like \"I doubt this guy is going to scam me and sully his good name\"\n\nI don't blame these artists at all, personally I would have been sucked in just reading his wiki page.", "I mean, you're clearly an alt, so why the hell do you think you matter?", "Why make a new account?", "> Listen, I didn’t watch the video and I am a little bit drunk, but I am an IP and contracts lawyer\n\nDrunk lawyers giving advice is a youtube channel or podcast I would subscribe to", "So.... why make a new account?", "Thanks to this video I decided to download a pirate version of The Outlaw Ocean.", "The Flashbulb is such a fucking chad. \n\nTo be able to so eloquently destroy an asshole that completely deserves it, and to then still have such respectful closing thoughts. \n\nI know I could absolutely not keep recommending any work done by the guy who plastered his name as a featured artist onto every single track despite not contributing the slightest, while running a, uh, \"non-profit\".", "It's an Ian alt acc.", "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Urbina#Controversy\n\nIan's wikipedia page already got updated.\n\n> On December 2, 2021, Benn Jordan published a YouTube video detailing the way in which he and several hundred other musicians were mislead by Urbina when asked to contribute to the Outlaw Ocean Music Project.[56] Jordan shows how Urbina made himself a popular \"musician\" on Spotify without ever creating any music, using the work he licensed from amateur and professional musicians for the Outlaw Ocean Music Project.", "Ian Urbina \n \n [Controversy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Urbina#Controversy) \n \n >On December 2, 2021, Benn Jordan published a YouTube video detailing the way in which he and several hundred other musicians were mislead by Urbina when asked to contribute to the Outlaw Ocean Music Project. Jordan shows how Urbina made himself a popular \"musician\" on Spotify without ever creating any music, using the work he licensed from amateur and professional musicians for the Outlaw Ocean Music Project.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( \| )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( \| )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( \| )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove \| v1.5)", "I know Benn tries to use the softer definition of \"scam,\" but after Ian's tirade of banning anyone asking questions about this, I think it's okay to definitely say this was a scam to the fullest extent.", "Newton was such a liar dude, I don't know why he hid general relativity from us.", "lol ... there goes my coffee all over the keyboard ...", "I think your criticism might be fair it weren't for the example you chose - NYT publishing a contemporaneous updates to a governmental body and framing it contemporaneous politics vs Buzzfeed doing investigative journalism and coming up with with a report two years later. If you're OK with that kind of delay in reporting that's fine. I just think you picked two categories of journalism and are outraged that they aren't similar.", "Damn they must have been so angry about the lack of transparency by the administration to the press too.", "Boomer mindset. Enjoying your work= easy life", "Even so, it's SO easy to spoof some famous person in an email. Look:\n\n>Hi, I'm Famous Person, here's my bio: <Link to a real person's bio>.\n>\n>Here's some work I've done: <Link to that real person's real work>.\n>\n>Want to enter a shady contract with me?", "most artists just want to work on being an artist- not work looking at contracts.", ">The NYT never published the follow up story. Wonder why…\n\nThis is actually completely fair criticism and I agree. Failure on their part.", "lol you right you right; just what I got out of it. He sounds sour grapes a bit to me and having been in a few massive misunderstandings I can imagine how this could be two parties acting in good faith, plus a twist of the \"entertainment industry sucks\". That's all.", "alright I will today", "That section's already been scrubbed.", "That's not a \"slight feeling\" that's a \"projection\"", "scrubbed is the right word. It is not even in the Talk/History section.", "I do miss old school forums for that reason. They still had karma but also a real community.\n\nYou have a lovely weekend too.", "> that it could probably be summed up in a short paragraph\n\nBenn makes detailed and thoroughly researched videos. sorry it isn't convenient", "I'm not drunk and also a lawyer who deals with contracts and IP.\n\nHow are the artists going to afford paying a contracts/IP lawyer's hourly rate to recover any royalties? Or do you believe that there has been enough revenue generated to entice legal representation on a contingency basis?\n\nFrom watching the video, it does seem you are correct and there are lawyers already involved for some of the artists. However, I would venture to guess that more than 50% of the artists are in a situation where the royalties generated by these \"collaborations\" do not reach an amount that would make sense to either pay to hire a lawyer or allow for a lawyer to take a case on a contingency basis because there is not an amount that would allow for recovery for the individual artist and compensate the lawyer for their work.\n\nI haven't read through their contract--perhaps there is an attorneys' fees clause in there that would suggest there is an avenue for legal recovery for all of the artists involved. I'm interested to hear your take on the route for recovery and the actual legal claims involved.\n\nIf we're talking about bringing a claim for fraud against Ian Urbina, then we may have some hook for punitive damages, assuming jurisdictional allowance for said damages. But I think the quanum meruit claim would only apply to an artist's fractional amount of work, and it doesn't not seem like it would garner a large enough return to make it a legal matter.\n\nWith all of this said, I haven't done the math. So if someone else has and they can point to the individual artists who were swindled by Mr. Urbina that would have rightfully had tens of thousands of dollars had a proper split occurred, then yes--it seems very likely that the artists here will have no trouble tackling the legal route and finding legal representation won't be an issue.\n\nHowever, unless we're talking about copyright violation triggering statutory damages (which it doesn't seem like this is the case given the written, agreed-upon licensing scheme) my estimation is that there are only a handful of artists out of the 462 who fell for this scam who can either afford to hire a lawyer or who will pursue legal claims despite a lack of a meaningful recovery, and the vast majority of artists involved will be left with no real route to legal recovery, and ultimately will have gotten scammed out of ostensibly producing work for free for someone else's benefit.", "Sue and try to force a jury trial. I feel that even if you SHOULD lose that you wouldn't with most people because who hasn't been screwed over at some point.", "Hey hasn't worked for them since 2019.", "Side note for anyone who has not listened to The Flashbulb - his music is sick.\n\nhttps://www.last.fm/music/The+Flashbulb/\\_/Lawn+Wake+IV+(black)", "I was first wondering why Benn Jordan was visible in the thumbnail. Was he scamming people? Why, he makes music himself anyway!\n\nTurns out he made this video. Looks like I have more of his stuff to follow now.", "This one sentence: You wont be paid but you get exposure instead. Absolute no go for any kind of artist. Client gets rights to your work and makes money out of it and you get nothing. \nThats the point where I would run.", "If you look at his [wiki pages history](https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ian_Urbina&action=history) you can see its being constantly scrubbed of any criticism by a single user. There's been multiple attempts to add this info to the page in the last few hours, all deleted immediately", "Shut up capitalist pig.", "The dates are 2018 and 2020. That's where he got the 2 years. I saw that it was Dec 2018 and Jan 2020, thus I went with a little over 1 year. Still hilarious?\n\nWhy are you assuming I'm Democrat? I've voted for more Republicans than Democrat and more Liberian than Democrat as well.\n\nYou know Trump is more Democrat than anything right? He's what this crazy faction of new Republicans call RINO.", "> Then he proposed a contract where a third party company (secretly owned by his wife)\n\nHis wife owns the house the company is registered at, she doesn't own the company. His wife may not even know what he is up to. Calling her a shit-sucking scammer when there was no evidence to that in the entire video is a bit extreme.", "This guy is in full on PR mode today, Twitter and everything being scrubbed as quickly as comments are added. It's amazing.", "Sure, but you're talking about musicians with no money vs. an established author with the New York times behind him. Money wins court cases.\n\nOuting people are being total assclowns is the second best option.", "Not American yet commenting on American politics. How pathetic.\n\nWhy are you assuming I voted for Trump?", "So, I did some basic checking of the edit history. The section was removed because Youtube isn't an allowed source on Wikipedia. Just wait for a news outlet to pick the story up and then add it back in with a proper source", "Wikipedia is not an encyclopedia. It is a corporate media aggregator.", "I'd be willing to give Ian and his wife the benefit of the doubt if they didn't create the record label to hide his wife's involvement. To me, that right there means the whole scam was deliberate.\n\nNow it could have been his wife who masterminded the whole thing, and Ian was bullied along. Ian could have made his wife start it. I don't know. \n\nWhat I do know, is that a NYT journalist knows what fair and honest disclosure is, and if he was being up front he would have said he was working with the record label that his wife runs. \n\nOn top of that, the specificity in the contracts around music ownership, Ian's inclusion as a co-creator, and his new attempt to copy/paste this program with Noam Champski - yeah its a deliberate, pre-planned scam.", "99% chance she knows.", "Please tell me why you think I'm Democrat.", "Creator of the video here. The reason it's so long is because it's quite complicated. I'll do my best to provide you a paragraph summarizing it:\n\nIan Urbina, author and famous journalist (NYTimes, Atlantic, etc) contacted thousands of musicians through interns, many of whom were led to believe they were the only musicians contacted, to recruit them for, what I believe to be through evidence I show in the video, a music royalty scam where he promised mainstream media, Netflix, Spotify, and live tour promotion which never occured, but now collects the majority of their Spotify earnings for the project under a record label he created, but insinuated was a 3rd party company he was working with. This is still going on with allegedly over 600 artists and thousands of songs involved, and now he's using Noam Chomsky's name to recruit even more musicians for a new project and collecting donations for a \"non-profit\" that doesn't appear to be publicly registered.\n\nIf your reaction is \"...wait but...\", then I'm afraid you'll have to watch the video, which I promise I put a lot of time into pacing decently to keep your attention. lol", "Says the new account that is foreign yet thinks they know American politics. You're the troll", "They never really could be, but it has certainly become more obvious in recent times.", "Thanks Benn :) Someone else summarized also. I immediately recognize this kind of scam from stuff I've seen in the writing world. Despicable", "It's back now: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian\\_Urbina#Controversy", "Ironic that Peter Gabriel, of all people, is now promoting Ian Urbana's work: \n\n[https://twitter.com/itspetergabriel/status/1466823431798857730](https://twitter.com/itspetergabriel/status/1466823431798857730)\n\nSomeone should tweet at PG too....", "Hi Ian", "You probably understand that the amounts we are talking about here probably wouldn't even cover a retainer. A scam against one person that robs them of a few hundred or even a few thousand dollars makes it difficult for the damaged party to recoup those losses. Meanwhile, if the person doing the damage does it thousands of times, their wealth can be immense.\n\nI wonder if this would qualify as a class action?", "Me - \"I'm not going to watch a 20 minute video but I guess I'll try to get the gist of it.\" 20 minutes later \"Damn that was interesting and insane.\"\n\nGreat work. I hope something comes of it. At the least you've warned off further victims, hopefully.", "Would this group be eligible for class action?", "Probably doesn't need to, since he's getting $7k a month (my estimate) from Spotify.", "His wikipedia page says \"In 2019, Urbina created Synesthesia Media.\"", "I would need to look up the numerosity requirement for class actions in federal suits but my immediate recollection is that it would be. The claims are discrete and similar enough (everyone used the same written agreement licensing the music through the same platforms), and I would imagine it would pass class certification.\n\nI don't generally practice class action suits, though, so there might be something I'm overlooking.", "Sounds like an interesting avenue of approach for an IP lawyer to approach the smaller scale claimants with. ;)", "if true. Remember, there is nothing atm but this guy's story", "You gotta link a whole album. My top three are:\n\n1. Soundtrack to a Vacant Life\n\n2. Opus at the End of Everything \n\n3. Nothing is Real\n\nSpecial shoutout to his album under his real name Benn Jordan, Pale Blue Dot, A Tribute which is a masterpiece of ambient music.\n\nAlso a fun fact if you remember a documentary about a guy getting a bunch of gangs to come together in peace for a gathering at like a candy shop which was raided by the police for doing so, arresting him and taking all of his money that was also done by Benn.", "I don’t think 360 deals are deceptive when they’re explained to someone. The issue is that people just rush to sign contracts because that advance $$.", "I don't recall seeing it in the history section, but do recall seeing that notice atop the article. So it makes sense. I almost left a comment on the video asking if he had any additional sources for his claims, but than I remembered I was working and just bored in a meeting ;)", "Shut the fuck up Ian", "I just did a quick search of Google News hoping to find a write up on this— Nothing yet on the controversy, but, bizarrely, there's a just-published podcast [interview](https://www.cjr.org/podcast/ian-urbina-on-libya-the-outlaw-ocean-project-and-the-rules-of-engagement.php) with Ian up in the Columbia Journalism Review. I'd be curious if it mentioned the debacle.\n\nAnyhow, I'm a journalist myself, and I think it's just a matter of time before someone writes this up— I wish I was still writing [my series on Spotify scams](https://onezero.medium.com/cheaters-guide-to-spotify/home)! I would definitely have wanted to cover this.", "Ok, Ians wife.", "That's a good point. It's unfortunate it's a blanket rule given that YouTube contains some very well researched videos, but I understand it's not logistically feasible to vet every vid case by case.", "I can't tell if you're Ian and you don't understand how reddit works, or you're pretending to be because you understand reddit so well that you know how to work this joke.", "Negative stories about Trump are bad and positive opinion pieces about the problems with liberalism are good. We get your clearly unbiased point. /s", "Why not is simple: Because it takes time to do. Why would you do something when you don't have to?", "He said \"copypasta\"\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copypasta", "> Which I think is fair. A YouTube video is not a great source. I'm sure a publication will pick this up soon and it can be re-added.\n\nI always thought about this since the inception of Wikipedia. On the face of it, sure, what's make some youtube guy a credible source. \n\nWith all the propaganda / bias / and bullshit going on in the media what makes the daily mail a more credible source than this guy.\n\nJust because it's in print doesn't mean it's true.\n\nDon't get me wrong, I don't envy any editor of Wikipedia. That is got to be one of the worst jobs anyone has to do on a regular basis. But, I think they have to at least consider different forms of media to be quoted as sources other than simply print.", "Then how would any other deal possibly be deceptive if it's explained to you lol", "It turns out he owns the publishing company that he was misleadingly referring to as a third party distributor. This company is ALSO taking a cut, so he's basically taking two royalty cuts", "Deceptive is “we promise you money, just let us do our thing and sign here” \n\nIt’s not if they say “hey these are the terms, we recommend having a separate lawyer review before you sign if you’d like their opinion.” \n\nYou ever watch interviews with artists? It’s not like they were lied to, they just didn’t fully understand what they were signing, which is a whole other issue. It’s not deceptive unfortunately even if it’s unfair.", "Yeah and most artists in 360 deals would sue then if they had a case but they don't. Otherwise they wouldn't sign it if they knew. The record labels go with the first pitch. Not sure how many meetings you've been in but they don't want to give you any info. It's a negotiation and they want as much as possible.", "yeah it's basically a standard nigerian email scam but written by a native speaker of English.", "Ok, I get the hint. We won't try to talk about this anymore. lol", "The Daily Mail was deprecated on Wikipedia and its use as a source is generally prohibited. Wikipedians do care about their source quality. Unfortunately, the vast majority of YouTube videos are self-published sources, which is considered unacceptable.", "For sure, and I do understand that. Daily mail was an obvious example of BS, but in fairness, what makes the New York Times a better source than this guy.\n\nI guess he should have provided his sources in the comments of the video.", "I don't have any hate. I'm not trying to goad you either. I think it's a relevant question that you won't answer. I'm not voicing any assumptions about you like you are with me....", "I don't blame the artists at all either. I guess I was particularly sensitive to some of the red flags. I can't honestly say I'd have done any better in their situation, since I've not been through it, but at least watching the video and seeing what he wrote I feel like I would have caught enough to do some deeper diving.", "I can understand that. I suppose the advantage I have is that I'm already aware that there are a ton of skeevy independent journalists who have partnered with The New York Times (and other major publications), and already know that association with a big name like that is not synonymous with integrity.", "Screenshot: https://i.imgur.com/HJFgRDM.png", "Yes you can spoof an email address, at least the bit that it shows in the recipient’s inbox.", "> He did incredibly scum my things in a very intentional, secretive, dishonest, and one-sided way. \n\nAre you talking about his previous NYT reporting? If so, do you have specific examples?", "I wonder why", "Yeah, in the video Benn indicated that there is likely already a lawsuit in the works. Apparently Ian also failed to pay some streaming/distributing companies who have larger legal teams.", "The video is making the rounds on twitter though. I'm sure there's going to be an article on vice at least by the end of the day.", "What is the wild ass guess estimate as to how much money Ian has made off of this scam? We talking $10k? $100k? $5m? How much is this worth?", "I feel like him using that email had a big part in it. Anytime my music email gets emails like that, the first thing I check is the address. I think most people wouldn’t expect someone with a NY Times email address to be a scam artist. I really hope it gets revoked.", "I guess it's the sheer number of eps that has led to his current Spotify listener count. Something like 50 EPs over the past 2 years. It's like a Spotify music farm.", "They got roped into it because he's legitimately a NYtimes reporter, a real person, and people don't expect a NYtimes reporter to sully his reputation by scamming people.", "I watched the vid on 1.25 speed, so it only took about 13 minutes :) but i would say that it's well worth the time. He lays out the facts clearly and logically and in a non-rant-y fashion. One takeaway is that I really don't think that Urbina's employers would think this was ethical. Legal, maybe I don't know, but journalist's are expected to not be actively tricking unsuspecting civilians for their own financial benefit. He may find himself having to explain some things to his standards and practices department.", "Not sure what else needs to be confirmed. Truth of the matter is that the guy probably didn't do anything \"illegal.\" He'll just point to the contract and say it's all written and agreed upon. But, that doesn't mean it's not scammy, and that he wasn't being forthright about everything.", "This is huge, repost it everywhere you can.", "In the video it shows his spotify getting 750,000 listeners per month. Streams pay different amounts but it's somewhere between $0.003 and $0.005 per stream. So, $2300 and $3700 a month from spotify, if they each only listened to one song. Some people listen to multiple songs or stream multiple times per month.\n\nAlso I kind of worded it wrong, in the fact that spotify isn't the only streaming service he's getting revenue from.\n\nThis isn't some small time hustle, he's making big money on this.", "I concur.", "You have one side with no sources. This guy could be manipulating the numbers to fit his story. I have no idea, I’m just saying, right now, it’s one guys story.", "Sure. I agree with that. People often rush to judgement on a LOT of things on the internet. All I'm saying is that the stakes are a bit low on this one. Form letter that others also got which kind of misrepresents the project through omission. And then a contract that is probably, in the end, legal.", "You’re correct, but it’s not deceptive because it’s all in the contract. Deceptive is when the terms aren’t clear.", "So then the case in discussion is not deceptive either.", "I was only asking why you started a new account. That's all I ever talked about. All your talk about communism and NPC's is confusing to me. I'll just leave you alone now.", "However the NY Times claimed on their website that he did up until just after this video was released. He also contacted all the artists with a @nytimes.com email address (Also just recently closed).", "No. I'm pretty sure they're talking about the subject of the video.", "I don't need a new account to see that you are just trying to create turmoil in The United States. \n\nAre you Putin it up your ass? Maybe you like the honey from Xi Jipooh? Either way, please know that I have friends with every viewpoint when it comes to American politics. We're able to discuss our differences in a civilized manner and respect our differences. The one thing that we agree upon the most is that we hate people or ideologies that try to separate us.\n\nSo please, keep trying to spread your hate. Understand that your leader is in more control of you than ours is of us.", "Gone again.", ">How did not a single one of the artists or their agents think to do the slightest amount of digging into the unknown parties involved in the deal?\n\nThe reality is that most artists don't and don't want to understand the business side of their art. But the other reality is that many, many artists do not have agents or competent agents either. Looking at this list of artists, I didn't see any big names. I think you're seeing a collection of desperate people, grasping at perceived opportunities.", "Absolute clownass you are.", "Agreed. He just put up a statement: https://twitter.com/Synesthesia_Med/status/1467217557463740416", "Well if wikipedia says it… it must be true.", "Probably not enough to remember Jason Blair then…\n\n\n2003 was when I lost hope for American journalism. Mostly the iraq war build up propaganda. But blair as well. It ls why I didnt major in journalism, ultimately.\n\n😢", "https://www.sfcv.org/articles/feature/art-and-advocacy-combine-outlaw-ocean-music-project\n\n\"He used a chunk of his book advance as start-up capital to found the for-profit music label Synesthesia Media, which he owns, to run the project. Its business model is for the project’s streaming revenue to subsidize Urbina’s reporting endeavors through his nonprofit organization The Outlaw Ocean Journalism Project. That project is structured somewhat like the funding model for ProPublica, the nonprofit investigative journalism newsroom.\"", "Yeah they're definitely out there.", "[https://www.inputmag.com/culture/ian-urbina-new-york-times-spotify-music-royalties-benn-jordan-youtube](https://www.inputmag.com/culture/ian-urbina-new-york-times-spotify-music-royalties-benn-jordan-youtube)", "He has a lot of sources. He mentions that at the beginning: he can cite everything.", "wow, because someone says \"I can cite everything\" but I am not going to, you just take their word for it?", "Journalists don't cite most of their stuff either. Only academic texts cite everything. The idea is that he could back it up, if asked to.", "He is not an accredited journalist. Journalists don’t cite sources because they are supposed to have editors who vet what they write and an institution’s credibility at stake. Journalists and the general public that don’t need to cite sources to have credibility", "The only thing that's missing, yes, is a institution behind him, other than himself (but otherwise this is a solid journalistic piece). It would be good if others followed up. Especially legally. Your whole assertion wasn't wrong, that it's this guy's story, but you made it too negative, for instance with the no sources.", "That's like saying He's a great executioner the only thing he is missing is his axe. Unless he has an editor and an institution that is vouching for him, he is joe regular; in lower case. This is hearsay, no better.", "Journalism isn't an accredited profession like a lawyer (yes, there are journalism schools, but a lot of journalists didn't go to them). So you can only judge someone on the thing they made and I'm judging it solid. Joe Regular made a solid thing, if you will. \nIt's not hearsay: he doesn't give the specifics, but probably a lot, if not all, is confirmed by more than one source (because he spoke a lot of people).", "This guy isn’t even a journalist as far as I can tell. He is just a musician with a YouTube channel. Yes, it’s hearsay. He is saying something with no evidence given.\n\n> unverified, unofficial information gained or acquired from another and not part of one's direct knowledge", "That still leaves me puzzled as well. Benn goes into how terrible the contract is, yet he signed it himself but never really says why. My guess is expectations of promises such as above, etc. \n\nBut if nothing else this video is yet another example of never signing anything unless you read it, and understand what happens if the other party goes by the letter of the contract.", "And it’s right there in the business records. Did \n you not watch the video?", "And it’s on his outlaw ocean website: “Synesthesia is an LLC (called Synesthesia Media LLC) that Ian created…”", "NYT's own article about it specifically calls him out as being a \"former\" times reporter and also specifically calls out that despite his severance with the Times organization, he continued to communicate using a Times email address.", "Time email and introduced himself as a current Times employee." ]	199	videos	How A NYTimes Reporter Collects Royalties From Hundreds of Musicians
https://youtu.be/UWAsFWiVUtg	/r/videos/comments/r7ln0o/a_fish_called_wanda_kkkken/	[ "Such a classic….”Revenge!”", "I get funny looks when I say \"It's KKKKen cccoming to kkkkill me!\". This movie has several funny lines. \"Don't call me stupid!\" and \"a$$hole!\" are funny because of how often they're repeated.", "most underrated movie of all time. \n\nSadly, every time I tell right wing redditors that Viet Nam was a tie, they don't get the joke.", "You know, I've definitely heard the title \"A Fish Called Wanda\" many times throughout my life, but I don't think I ever knew what kind of movie it was. I think if you had asked me what kind of movie it was I woulda said \"Idk some romantic comedy from the early 90s\"\n\nThis looks like somethin I could fuck with, though", "How did they do that stunt at the end?", "Same here, never saw it but I want to now!", "Holy shit her really went under!", "Don't call me stupid.", "You won't be dissapointed. It's such a great cast.", "I haven't seen this movie in decades. I didn't realize that was Stephen Fry.", "It really rides the line of being what I feel is a standard 80's American Comedy and Monty Python Farce, and it balances well.", "Definitely watch this movie. It's one of my favorites. So many amazing quotable lines from it, especially from Otto (Kevin Kline) and Archie (John Cleese).\n\nIt's a comedic take on a heist movie with an incredible cast that's executed just perfectly.\n\nIt's not completely slapstick like a Leslie Nielsen movie, but it definitely doesn't take itself seriously either. It's just the right mix of heist film and absolute shenanigans.\n\nJohn Cleese and Kevin Kline carry the movie, and that's absolutely OK with me.\n\nThe name of the film is ridiculous and the intro is going to make you think the movie is an ancient relic that can't possibly hold up, but once you get just a few minutes in you'll forget all about that. I've probably seen this movie a dozen times and it never fails to make me laugh.", "My favorite comedy of all time.\n\nASSHOLE (jk)", "This movie is just way too quotable:\n\n\"OK... OK... dis-a-POINTED!\"\n\n\"Oh do shut up Porsche\"\n\n\"Don't call me stupid!\"\n\n\"asshooooooole!\"\n\n\"<spamming random names of pastas and cheeses to speak italian>\"\n\n\"Mr. Manfredjensenjen\"\n\n\"It's a Buddhist meditation technique. Focuses your aggression. The monks used to do it before going into battle.\"", "The probably made the concrete mix deep enough for the stuntman, but had rails on each side of the mix for the steamroller.", "Underrated? Kevin Klein won an Oscar for his performance. (Incredibly well deserved, he is a fucking powerhouse)", "That's what I was thinking, he was in some sort of gap. But good lord, can you imagine how terrifying that would be?", "ew, dont eat the green ones, theyre not ripe yet" ]	19	videos	A Fish Called Wanda - K-K-K-Ken…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HL8iPDkOXos	/r/videos/comments/r7lyzp/open_the_door/	[ "One of my favourite animators", "Who is it", "Keke https://twitter.com/Kekeflipnote?s=20" ]	3	videos	Open the door.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=nXulsCU1geg&feature=share	/r/videos/comments/r7lziv/im_not_crying_eh/	[ "Ha. ~~Ed Robertson~~ Steven Page", "That was heartwarming AF", "Hey, isn't that the guy from Van Wilder?", "As a Ryan, I approve.", "That music video was beautiful, job well done, aaaaannnd I’m crying!" ]	5	videos	I'm Not Crying, Eh.
https://youtu.be/SFRiHQ-Lwzk	/r/videos/comments/r7m0mj/absolutely_stunning_piece_clair_de_lune_debussy/	[ "Yup", "'\"Dad! I got my degree!\"", "Wow, that was fantastic. Great set and great choreography.", "De what", "Remake" ]	5	videos	Absolutely stunning piece: Clair de lune (Debussy): Alexandre Tharaud, Yoann Bourgeois.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFCFe38EIfE	/r/videos/comments/r7mqjj/james_dyson_answers_design_questions_from_twitter/	[ "Remember that time he failed at building an electric car.", "ahh the classic bladeless fans with blades.", "https://youtu.be/dS0oFmzU06g\n\nMy favorite fan comparison video.", "\"HOW DOES DYSON CREATE A BLADELESS FAN?!\"\n\n\"Yes, it's actually very simple, you see. We use fins instead of blades. And we place them in a different configuration.\"", "Failed at designing those glasses too", "What is a fin Mr. Dyson? Oh some might say it is a miniature blade. The fins spin at such a high rpm that the noise these fans produce is annoying." ]	6	videos	James Dyson Answers Design Questions From Twitter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNKuG4CVK7A	/r/videos/comments/r7npbz/ireland_guarantees_santa_will_not_be_restricted/	[ "Am American, but would vote for both of them.", "One thinks there shouldn't be a cap on rising rent and landlords should have an honor system that will regulate themselves. When told people can't afford their rent he plied \"people are forgetting one persons rent is another person's income\". \n\nThe same guy who pitys landlords who live on rent hates people who don't work as he sees them as sponges and accuses people are living in poverty because they \"are not botheted getting up early enough\".\n\nClips like this and your response show how they get votes.", "This is a serious issue, I don't think Santa should have that much freedom of movement without testing" ]	6	videos	Ireland guarantees Santa will not be restricted travel due to Covid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw7alNjkYro&ab_channel=BenCahn	/r/videos/comments/r7nxoq/the_best_representation_of_hbos_succession/	[ "😂 where's Connor though!", "He's got Siobhan's facials down.", "I love this so much", "Never seen this show but ok", "now u have", "hes such a good character. i think hes underrated cos hes so dislikeable but people forget that its an achievement to have made you dislike him", "it's easily the best show on TV, but also fuck you AND FUCK OFF GOD DAMN IT", "Conheads aren't going to like this one", "Maybe he took the day off. Conner's day off in other words.", "This was so much better than I thought it was gonna be", "Candy is for DADDIES", "Watch it then.", "Shiv looks at everyone in the entire show like they’re the stupidest person on the planet", "lol he's the embodiment of \"born on 3rd base and thinks he hit a home run.\" Are there fans of the character that don't recognize that?", "Ken’s weird pointy smile as well\n\nAnd Roman’s Lack of Neck", "I was hooked but 2 episodes into Season 3 and I just can’t. It’s the same with the first couple episodes of S1, ONE thing happens and they spend hours on everyone saying “What do you think is going to happen?”\n\nSuccession has become a watch party show about itself.", "Kieran Culkin is brilliant in this show. I love and hate his character.", "Conner Roy was interested in politics from a very young age.", "Arcane would like a word you. The impressions are on point though", "Arcane is great but I personally like Succession way more.", "It’s incredible", "Ferris Bueller, you're my hero", "k i downloaded season 1 \n\n&#x200B;\n\nfor 17 downvotes this show better be good", "Great! I hope you enjoy it. I have. :D", "Its a high prdouction soap opera for adults who hate soap operas. I took love this trash.", "Think you're forgetting they wrote and performed a full season entirely during covid. So they are having to adjust. It's a noticeable adjustment. But even with the handicap they are killing it. Shows coming out during the pandy have all had to handicap themselves. Shameless embraced it the most and also seemingly had the most freedom so they get a gold star. But coping has not been easy for production", "I'm sorry you missed episode 7 then", "The expression is born on 3rd base and thinks he hit a triple. \n\nYou don’t get to 3rd base on a home run. You score a run by getting home.", "Overhyped. The first season is great, the second season is okay. And then you realize every season is the same.", "whats so good about episode 7 lol? Kendal cries?\n\nshow is SO repetitive", "It’s fine though coz it’s a closed loop system", "“I just want everyone to know that I don’t actually want any M&M’s but maybe willow could have an M&M?”", "I honestly don't understand what happened with the coat situation in the episode from last week... it was so disrespectful! If you don't want to take of your coat FUCK YOU AND FUCK OFF GOD DAMN IT", "loved Arcane but that is a very ridiculous comparison.\n\none is a brilliant drama/comedy relying purely on the characters and writing.\n\nthe other is visually and artistically outstanding with amazing sequences, but story, writing and character-wise completely standard.\n\nnot even remotely comparable shows", "So far I want to punch everybody on this show. They're all insufferable people, or is that the point?", "I’ve never seen this and after looking at the cast I feel this is 100% accurate. Thanks for summarizing season 1 (I think).", "Oh yeah. They are all love to hate characters. Except Greg. He's like a lovable innocent puppy.", "What do you have about him? To me, he’s just a lovable sex prefer that ignores failed space launches.", "not a fan of the show, but this made me LOL bc it poked tension at all the reasons it's both likeable and unlikeable. \n\nnailed the thumbnail", "Its serious Arrested Development", "That's sad.", "Honestly I thought they missed a trick at the start of this series. At the end of last series I thought Logan was intentionally goading Ken into betraying him. Like he wanted Ken to grow some balls and take him down so Ken could finally take over the company like a man. All the kids squabbling over who actually takes over while Logan is in the background, perhaps still pulling the strings would have been more interesting. I've enjoyed the second half of this series more than the first half but it does seem a bit repetitive. And also what use was Logans blackmail of Ken following the wedding car crash if it never gets used? It's barely mentioned. It's as if it was inconvenient to the story they wanted to tell so ignored it.", "I think this is why I can't get into it. The tone is too heavy and serious throughout.", "He pulls the part off well enough for me that his dialog doesn't sound like a script he memorized.", "Greg being too fucking tall had me rolling.", "It’s so weird, story lines that I think are going to take a few episodes are either abandoned or take 3 seasons to unfold.", "I agree with you. Really enjoyed arcane and I thought the art and direction was amazing. The writing was excellent for an animated series but was a little above average compared to a live action series imo.", "I thought the same thing about Logan pulling Kendal's strings! \n\nAnd yeah.... What happened to the threat? That's poopy.", "I never got into the show but this exactly what I thought it would be.", "His \"Fuck off!\" is spot on, I love how he says it like 10 times.", "Kieran Culkin is really good. Really good fit for the role.", "Ah yeah... it was very late when I wrote that comment", "He was obfuscating his injured arm I think.", "It’s a comedy shot and edited like a drama. The disconnect between the situations, writing, and tone are part of the bit.", "Kendall: “Dad, I…I can do it. I can run the whole fucking ship. And-and…and we’ll run it together, and no one will mess with us. Dad, I’m good…I’m good, and I’m ready.”\n\nNarrator: He wasn’t.", "Not to mention Tom’s whole arc of finally confronting you-know-who last season only to completely forget about it this season. Starting to think Tom is in the wrong HBO show and was just reset like every host.", "He’s a fantastic actor, but I wish I knew more about Roman’s character. What does he do in his spare time? I’d like more scenes of him alone with his feelings, like we get with Ken and Shiv.", "It is made by the same guy who created Peep Show.\n\nIt's weird seeing people calling it a drama. There's dramatic moments, but it's a satirical dark comedy pretty much through and through. There's more jokes per episode than there are ultra serious dramatic moments.", "I couldnt get into it because they weren’t even peanut M & M‘s", "'it’s a comedy shot and edited like a drama' \nGreat way to put it. Like that scene where Greg is watching the wayco diversity training program, how it talks about inclusiveness, and Greg looks at the door and sees 30 white old dudes coming back for lunch while the video is still playing.", "Which was confusing too because everyone could see he had some kind of cast on. And they asked what happened to his arm but he'd answer very vaguely which made it all the more suspicious. I don't think it's anything important but I'll see what they make of it in later episodes.", "Apparently, he tries to avoid memorizing too much of his lines and improvises a lot", "Yeah same...it feels like the main story plot hasn't advanced at all. For me the show can be broken down to 1) a child does something dad doesn't like 2) there is a fight about it 3) everything resets back to 1).", "have you not seen last week's episode? he was by far the shittiest person of the night and probably season.", "When did Ken realise that? It wasn't on screen. Plus why didn't he realise it when it happened. It undercuts the drama of all that happened around the car crash if in later series everyone just shrugs saying that was meaningless.", "Approach it as though every scene with Greg is like heroin or coke, other scenes are weed - then it's basically just chilling on the couch, smokin some weed until Greg shows up with the heroin and coke.", "The Ken impression was frighteningly accurate.", "\"Look I'm just running for political office because I think I have a lot of innovative ideas on new directions we can take this country. And a lot of people have thrown their support behind me.\"\n\n\"Yeah?\"\n\n\"Yeah. And also I don't wanna pay any more fucking taxes.\"\n\n\"Oh well duh.\"", "Writers keep messing with his character. One minute he's an alt-right douche, next minute he's the only one who understands everyone and he's so empathetic. Writers keep accidentally trying to make their douches likeable.", "> What does he do in his spare time? \n\nHe masturbates, duh", "He does end up telling everyone that he got drunk and fell over doing an Irish jig. He’s just embarrassed because it’s a dumb story and the fact that he broke his arm makes him look fragile which is a bad look for a presidential candidate. That’s why he’s so intent on hiding it from casual observers. Remember the big hullabaloo over Hilary fainting or anytime Joe Biden or Trump got sick?\n\nThe whole bit is that he’s trying to hide his broken arm but he’s not fooling anyone and, if anything, he’s only drawing more attention to himself.", "I love the show. But every time I watch it I feel the need to swear like Brian Cox for the rest of the day. He has the most commanding \"fuck offs\".", ">I was hooked but 2 episodes into Season 3 and I just can’t. It’s the same with the first couple episodes of S1, ONE thing happens and they spend hours on everyone saying “What do you think is going to happen?”\n\nSame. I gave up after the beginning of S03. Had almost some HIMYM groundhog day vibes, were you can't even tell what season you're in anymore because it's the same family drama knife fight nonsense where there are no actual repercussions or consequences for anything anyone does. Which leads to no meaningful character development either. \n\n\nI'm sure at some point it gets better, I just really can't take 20+ long episodes in and very little has actually changed. Where will the argument over succession happen this time? A fancy British manor house? A super yacht off Greece? A desert ranch in New Mexico? Does it even matter if the outcome is essentially the same status quo for the family?", "Ken is the biggest example of this for me. He went from kind of a bold character with some likeability to a pathetic rich punk loser. Or maybe the point is he always was one? I dunno.", ">And also what use was Logans blackmail of Ken following the wedding car crash if it never gets used? It's barely mentioned. It's as if it was inconvenient to the story they wanted to tell so ignored it.\n\nIt was a convenient way to neutralize Ken when the plot called for it. It could also be a forgotten Chekhov's Gun that the writers lost interest in using down the road.", "Agree. I'm trying to think of what he might do in his spare time and I'm drawing a blank....", ">i think hes underrated cos hes so dislikeable but people forget that its an achievement to have made you dislike him\n\nHe's kind of an odd third-wheel that exemplifies all the spoiled brat nonsense of the others, but with zero ambition around the family business itself. \n\n\nWhich is pretty true to life, for example half the Koch brothers. Fredrick and Bill never engaged in the massive political propaganda engine that the more (in)famous other 2 brothers did. \n\n\nThey were just collectors of art, did boat races, petty philanthropy, and so on. Enjoyed their inherited billions without any grand ambitions.", "Pretty brilliant and accurate summary of the show.", "Ken’s whole character is driven by his insecurities. He wants to be seen as a tough, no-nonsense guy like his dad but it’s all a front. Deep down inside he’s a sad person and hates himself. Then whenever he’s spiraling he takes his emotions out on the people around him.", "I’m pretty sure he just plays around on his phone and shit posts on 4chan. His whole thing is that he’s more connected to the social sphere aka spends all day looking at memes online.", "'You swallowed your own load?'\n\n'Ye... Yeah... I heard of it, but I... I didn't know it actually happened.'\n\n'Well I haven't heard about it before.'\n\n'I have, it's a thing, there's a word for it I... can't remember what it is... right now.'\n\nGreg shakes his head\n\n'So fucking hot!'", "Ah, thanks for explaining it, dude. This makes a lot more sense. It felt out of place to me because I didn't make a link between him running and the optics of it.", "Can we talk about how he completely transformed into Kieran Culkin", "Genius", "You are describing a psychologically realistic character. Realistic characters are the strongest part of the show. None of the siblings is a single thing or fully good or bad. They are realistic. Some aspects of them get stronger under stress, some fade.\n\nRoman Roy is immature, fears failure so much he can't take responsibilities, uses irony as a defense. He likes to talk shit but commits to nothing. His best skill is that he can adapt, but he does not have a center.", "Hey you make a good point. Real people flip flop.", "YES", "Kendal was so spot on, at least for season 2 Kendal anyway.", "well for his birthday he did want to crucify himself and sing \"honesty\" but then came to his senses. that could signal he realized what he really needs is a true confession of his actual sin... or it could be that he WON'T go for the MAD (mutually assured destruction) play against Logan. but there have been enough references to the manslaughter this season that it seems likely to factor into the finale somehow.", "Perfect description", "The above comment was stolen from [this one](http://np.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/r7nxoq/the_best_representation_of_hbos_succession/hn12wjp/) elsewhere in this comment section.\n\nIt is probably not a coincidence; here is some more evidence against this user:\n\nPlagiarized \| Original\n-------- \| -----------\n[U didn’t have a good home...](http://np.reddit.com/r/memes/comments/r7xiwk/best_time_of_my_life/hn3fiek/) \| [U didn’t have a good home...](http://np.reddit.com/r/memes/comments/r7xiwk/best_time_of_my_life/hn2sg1s/)\n[By first are you talking...](http://np.reddit.com/r/memes/comments/r7x7w7/we_bout_to_get_hit_by_a_storm/hn3fh5r/) \| [By first are you talking...](http://np.reddit.com/r/memes/comments/r7x7w7/we_bout_to_get_hit_by_a_storm/hn27ear/)\n[He's working on an origin...](http://np.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/r7k8jy/if_blink128_wrote_wonderwall/hn3fox4/) \| [He's working on an origin...](http://np.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/r7k8jy/if_blink128_wrote_wonderwall/hn2f8k8/)\n\nbeep boop, I'm a bot -\|:] It is this bot's opinion that [/u/KitchenEmotion8169](https://np.reddit.com/u/KitchenEmotion8169/) should be banned for karma manipulation. Don't feel bad, they are probably a bot too.\n\nConfused? Read the [FAQ](https://www.reddit.com/user/reply-guy-bot/comments/n9fpva/faq/?plagiarist=KitchenEmotion8169) for info on how I work and why I exist.", "He didn't forget about it, he had the whole impending prison thing to focus on. Which he threw all his attention into with the prison consultant and then binders lol. Now that he's \"free\" he has to face the reality of his failed marriage.", "The above comment was stolen from [this one](http://np.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/r7nxoq/the_best_representation_of_hbos_succession/hn2f9vb/) elsewhere in this comment section.\n\nIt is probably not a coincidence; here is some more evidence against this user:\n\nPlagiarized \| Original\n-------- \| -----------\n[Ohh ok. I get it THX](http://np.reddit.com/r/memes/comments/r7x7w7/we_bout_to_get_hit_by_a_storm/hn3iuda/) \| [Ohh ok. I get it THX](http://np.reddit.com/r/memes/comments/r7x7w7/we_bout_to_get_hit_by_a_storm/hn3679c/)\n[Me and my ex-wife went to...](http://np.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/r829zo/my_23m_gf_24f_of_3_years_is_legitimately_upset/hn3ip0j/) \| [Me and my ex-wife went to...](http://np.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/r829zo/my_23m_gf_24f_of_3_years_is_legitimately_upset/hn30lg5/)\n[Was my first thought as w...](http://np.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/r81uwx/wife_suddenly_calls_me_daddy_during_sex/hn3ind2/) \| [Was my first thought as w...](http://np.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/r81uwx/wife_suddenly_calls_me_daddy_during_sex/hn34ilz/)\n[Nvm guys I found his YouT...](http://np.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/r7k8jy/if_blink128_wrote_wonderwall/hn3j12i/) \| [Nvm guys I found his YouT...](http://np.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/r7k8jy/if_blink128_wrote_wonderwall/hn0kwyg/)\n[My mental health was heal...](http://np.reddit.com/r/memes/comments/r7xiwk/best_time_of_my_life/hn3iwbb/) \| [My mental health was heal...](http://np.reddit.com/r/memes/comments/r7xiwk/best_time_of_my_life/hn38pxa/)\n[Agreed. 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Read the [FAQ](https://www.reddit.com/user/reply-guy-bot/comments/n9fpva/faq/?plagiarist=ImpossibleSafety382) for info on how I work and why I exist.", "hello! this is my video! thank you for posting it here on reddit dot com lmfao", "he's very hard to do an impression of", "He absolutely nailed shiv and roman", "This shit was hilarious!", "Wow, mind blown. I loved peep show and watched it during its original run. One of the few shows I had to pause and walk away because it would get so overwhelmingly cringey. The writers were excellent on that show", "Yea i think both characters are aware of it and don't want to address it. Because doing so would very likely lead to a separation, and they are sort of co-dependant right now.\n\nMaybe i'm reading too much into it, but that conflict seems to be present in the background of their relationship. And that relationship is slowly eroding more and more.\n\nSo i have a feeling this will lead to another, bigger conflict towards the end of the season. And they are deliberately delaying the inevitable.", "That's true and I think it's incredibly impressive what succession is pulling off despite filming in lockdown. It was already a great show but its even more so after this season.", "Ken's dumb guy response too \"uhhh ok.. uhhhh.. yea\"", "100% spends a lot of his free time on porn", "I love it, every season. Right now they have me fully engaged.\n\nSo I disagree but maybe it's just not good for you.", "That's a part of the point, not a lot of characters you can root for. But it can become quite amusing the more you get into the characters.", "> One minute he's an alt-right douche, next minute he's the only one who understands everyone and he's so empathetic.\n\nThat's not contradictory. He's empathetic to people in his in-group, and gives zero shits about anyone else. I don't think he holds any strong political opinions (including alt-right ones) but he's an edgelord who is attracted to things that disgust everyone else, who treats everything as a joke because and can't conceive of real negative consequences because he's never had any. And he doesn't even pretend to care about anyone that isn't in his direct family or Gerri.", "This is a pretty good spoof.\n\nThat being said, I thought the first couple of seasons (I haven't watched further) we're great. Slow start in the beginning, but afterwards the drama, subterfuge, betrayal, etc. is really interesting.", "You might be the only person to think season 1 was better than season 2. Both are good but 2 was much better.", "the faces of shiv were the best part", "in a comically sized dog cage", "I prefer 1. It started worse, but the string of episodes from Austerlitz (family therapy episode) to Prague (bachelor party) to the finale was just so good imo. I loved >!the overwhelming, all-encompassing tragedy of it.!< S2 is cleaner, probably technically much better on average, and it’s also so good also it’s hard to rank, but 1 had the best episode imo (Austerlitz) and just appeals to my sensibilities more.", "thanks dude! working on making a second...", "He’s objectively a terrible person", "i'll get enough for both of us...watch :-$ lolol", "In the oval office, obviously", "I'm excited for part 2. Make sure to throw in a \"fuckinnnnnn' yeah. Sure. Okay\" for Ken.\n\nYou gotta drag out the n in \"fuckin\"", "The above comment was stolen from [this one](http://np.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/r7nxoq/the_best_representation_of_hbos_succession/hn12wjp/) elsewhere in this comment section.\n\nIt is probably not a coincidence; here is some more evidence against this user:\n\nPlagiarized \| Original\n-------- \| -----------\n[Why don't believe that an...](http://np.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/r7k8jy/if_blink128_wrote_wonderwall/hn3milg/) \| [Why don't believe that an...](http://np.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/r7k8jy/if_blink128_wrote_wonderwall/hn0zmpx/)\n[Bruh you miss Genshin imp...](http://np.reddit.com/r/memes/comments/r7xcd3/ive_always_found_these_soundtracks_really_good/hn3m4s9/) \| [Bruh you miss Genshin imp...](http://np.reddit.com/r/memes/comments/r7xcd3/ive_always_found_these_soundtracks_really_good/hn2rekk/)\n[From the ost I got the vi...](http://np.reddit.com/r/memes/comments/r7xn9f/just_nine_minutes_in/hn3me4v/) \| [From the ost I got the vi...](http://np.reddit.com/r/memes/comments/r7xn9f/just_nine_minutes_in/hn3dlvy/)\n[The first was the correct...](http://np.reddit.com/r/memes/comments/r80cp7/jesus_christ_they_think_kids_are_idiots/hn3m1r7/) \| [The first was the correct...](http://np.reddit.com/r/memes/comments/r80cp7/jesus_christ_they_think_kids_are_idiots/hn2zfci/)\n[I understand the memes it...](http://np.reddit.com/r/memes/comments/r7y83h/lizard_boi_go_brrr/hn3lzb0/) \| [While I understand the me...](http://np.reddit.com/r/memes/comments/r7y83h/lizard_boi_go_brrr/hn2i5g8/)\n[I don’t think that would...](http://np.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/r7psea/should_i_tell_my_boyfriend_that_i_was_obsessed/hn3lv5r/) \| [I don’t think that would...](http://np.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/r7psea/should_i_tell_my_boyfriend_that_i_was_obsessed/hn14woh/)\n[I'm sorry for your loss d...](http://np.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/r7onw8/my_28f_very_pregnant_best_friend_28f_just_lost/hn3llzi/) \| [I'm sorry for your loss d...](http://np.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/r7onw8/my_28f_very_pregnant_best_friend_28f_just_lost/hn1ma0m/)\n[What does she say when yo...](http://np.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/r839ai/how_do_i_tell_my_wife_her_cooking_is_bad/hn3lr5n/) \| [What does she say when yo...](http://np.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/r839ai/how_do_i_tell_my_wife_her_cooking_is_bad/hn3aa59/)\n\nbeep boop, I'm a bot -\|:] It is this bot's opinion that [/u/SubstantialFly2855](https://np.reddit.com/u/SubstantialFly2855/) should be banned for karma manipulation. Don't feel bad, they are probably a bot too.\n\nConfused? Read the [FAQ](https://www.reddit.com/user/reply-guy-bot/comments/n9fpva/faq/?plagiarist=SubstantialFly2855) for info on how I work and why I exist.", "Peep show uses the same technique to some extent, although that’s show is sometimes filmed like a horror lmao", "Well if it isn’t one of the stinkiest, squirmiest worms I’ve ever seen.", "More Roman! You nailed his voice.", "you've got the mannerisms of the kids nailed.", "Wait, trillionaire mindset Ben Cahn??? Huge fan!", "Big if true, it's brilliant", "It's not the best show on TV.", "Lol thank you!", "“As slick as cum on a dolphins back” had to be improv.", "Do it man, impressions are all super solid", "I saw his role referred to as the anti-Sorkin", "There are a few season 2 references there.", "My number one boy 🥲", "Allegedly", "Perfect acting", "Connor seems like the least dislikable out of the siblings I think. The presidency thing is hilarious. He's like a kid standing on his tip toes trying to speak like how he thinks an adult should.", "I mean if it’s information you’re looking for the times ain’t great either", "Snook's go-to moves are the side-eye and the squint", "Seems like the times usually slants the facts a lot to fit a largely pro-capital narrative. I don’t think there is a single unbiased source, usually you gotta look into all the primary sources yourself and dig a bit.", "Please one of Logan's infamous \"mmm-hmm\" responses.", "Uhhh.. it's uhh Gregory now." ]	140	videos	The best representation of HBO's Succession
https://youtu.be/42j9-eF_q7E	/r/videos/comments/r7ny7b/letterkenny_100_bullshit_round_here/	[ "I approve.", "And that’s what I appreciates about you, Jims “", "Pitter patter", "Tarps off boys, we’re having a donnybrook.", "Hey it's Jim Dickskin", "to be fair, he had a point", "It's Dickens.", "Where does Letterkenny stream?", "That's what I said, \"Dickskin\".", "4th line for life", "Crave TV in Canada and Hulu I believe in the US", "And in Ireland? 😅", "Looks like you might have to take up [sailing.](https://thepiratebay.org/search.php?q=letterkenny&all=on&search=Pirate+Search&page=0&orderby=SE)" ]	13	videos	Letterkenny - 100% bullshit ‘round here
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/r7nyuz/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/r7nyuz/deleted_by_user/	[ "Simpsons did it again", "Ironically, Sideshow Bob was voiced by Kelsey Grammar, a big time Republican.", "Yeah, they always do: https://youtu.be/dAUp7JmsJ-g", "Lol that’s not ironic that a very republican thing to say." ]	4	videos	[deleted by user]

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