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https://youtu.be/qZ8cDELCm8A
/r/videos/comments/r8w3y6/the_wheel_of_time_origin_stories_e01_the_breaking/
[ "That was awesome. I'm in the middle of listening to all the audio books on audible at the moment.", "All at once? You madman.", "It's the only way to get through books 5 through 8 and feel like anything is happening.", "I’m watching the series like I read those books. Just skip to the chapters about Rand lol", "A bold strategy, considering it looks like the first season is about everyone else.", "Awesome! I’m on book ten now. So close and yet so far.", "I just finished 9. Whew. I do remember the last 3 books Brandon Sanderson wrote were awesome so I am just waiting for that. 9 took some effort to finish this time around.", "I’ve never read a book we’re so much and yet so little happened.", ">\nVideo unavailable\nThis video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Amazon Content Services LLC.", "Good news, it gets better from there", "Video killed by amazon :<", "Pretty much how the middle section of the series was lol" ]
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videos
The Wheel of Time: Origin Stories E01 - The Breaking of the World - YouTube
https://youtu.be/-XAw-CCDJCw
/r/videos/comments/r8w7es/why_ssx_3_is_the_best_snowboarding_game_ever/
[ "Well it's worse than SSX 2 so...", "There was an article about how SSX3 inspired games like Burnout Paradise and Forza Horizon. Being able to just vibe and explore between races. Played the hell out of it on Gamecube", "Since SSX and Burnout Paradise share a DJ i believe they exist in the same universe where one side of the world is crashing cars and the other is carving slopes", "There’s room for both of em :)", "Tricky was better.", "They’re both fabulous :)", "The open feeling and the sounds make it so relaxing to play", "Definitely.", "Weird way of spelling Coolboarders 2", "Haha i gotta get that for the ps1", "The big air hills alone.", "Try Riders Republic that just came out. Pretty fun.", "I still have SSX tricky for PS2, but no PS2 to play it. :(", "You misspelled Snowboard Kids for the N64...", "I think you mean Heavy Shreddin for the NES", "Is it just me or is this style of video unbearable and overdone? Constant cuts and shitty humour. Hard to watch. I'm getting old.", "Coolboarders 2 and 3.", "Big classics!", "We all have preferences that’s what makes people rad ;)", "I wasn’t even good at it, but loved tricky. Was like a dopamine vending machine", "No doubt about it, Tricky was one of the most fun multiplayer games back in the day, even just taking turns setting scores was awesome.", "I can still crank out like 1.5M on garibaldi but like no more than 500K on any other maps because I spent so much time playing it at friends' places as a kid and that was the only map they wanted to play. What a great fucking game", "Hah sounds like me the last time i played it. albeit years ago, that first map was so fun and had so many opportunities to nick a few extra points. I used to like Tokyo alot too but it was alot harder to pull off.", "this was one of my favorite gamecube games. I can still remember the combos on the controller even though I havent touched it in like 10 years", "I know tricky is crazy popular but I still like 3 more. Nothing beats snowboarding the entire mountain from top to bottom", "SSX3 was great but in my mind it doesn't beat Amped 2", "Shut your whore mouth.", "The vibe and jokes in this video is pretty similar to General Sam, same with the editing", "I gotta check him out then i really enjoy that style", "i like him hes got NakeyJakey vibes. Please come back nakeyjakey.", "Not too old to just watch another video instead, without throwing your 2 cents in.", "Nah, I need it open for whore things", "1080", "SSX 3 has got more polish, but Tricky has all the heart! I wish they would remake it.", "He’s my biggest inspiration with the green screen haha i miss him", "Umm Amped was far superior. SSX was cartoonish and beyond unrealistic. Cool Boarders and 1080 are better than SSX. Get outta here with your nonsense.", "Haha i don’t mean any harm it’s just that i could capture this game only, so i gave it a controversial title :)", "Sorry came here to only say fuck no the best snowboarding game ever was Coolboarders 2 . Game play, characters and sound track were on point game was just ahead of its time and literally still shits on latest ones", "I am sure you can find a PS2 for sale for cheap, they made like a metric ton of them lol", "I gotta check that out! I’m hearin so many great things about it", "Time to bust out ssx3 again, only snowboarding game I've played but there's no way any other snowboard game tops it\n\nAlso the humor, analysis, and green screen are spot on great vid 🤙🏻", "No. Tricky was better.", "EA sports BIG was the shit.", "Without a doubt the best of the series, and my favorite snowboard game as well. Come home from a long day, start at the top, and just cruise downhill with Moby for an hour, with no pressure, just DJ Atomica and some good vibes.", "The Street games were amazing too, they need to bring BIG back", "I get that a lot of people like Tricky better, but SSX 3 was better in my opinion because it had online multiplayer. I had so much fun playing against random strangers online. It was one of the first games that really solidified my love of online gaming.", "Why is he not allowed to state an opinion? You could simply read another comment, without throwing your 2 cents in on his.", "Was just gonna say, how come no one mentioned these games haha \"cooool boarders, here we go!l\"", "Do it I promise you , will not regret it", "From a fellow Evan: Rad video!", "SSX Tricky was fantastic !!", "Without SSX3 there would be no M0rrowind", "I miss Jakey", "Morrowind came out in 2002, SSX3 in 2003", "Because he's being a yum yucker", "The original SSX was the best one.", "SSX Tricky is the best game of all time", "Completely agreed. The arcade feel of choosing a level and diving straight in was great. I liked SSX3 but felt the open world gameplay took away from the instant dopamine Tricky provided.", "You're doing a great job", "I’m sure I’ll get hat for this but my favorite was AMPED", "I have played both SSX 3 and SSX Tricky. I do prefer Tricky for a couple of reasons; \n\nPersonality, SSX Tricky has personality from the get go, the music, the quips, each character being spec'd differently and the track intro's. If you have the chance just launch both SSX3 & Tricky just get to the point of starting your first event. Even the character selection in Tricky has more character!\n\nWeight and tension, Tricky punishes you and you feel it when you make a mistake. SSX3 is very floaty and sometimes I feel like my controller inputs are a suggestion as opposed to a command. Also in Tricky when you get air, the music lowers and then BAM you hit the ground and it all comes back along with a satisfying landing sound. \n\nI can see why some people would prefer SSX 3 but after so many years of Tricky it feels lifeless, floaty and lacks attitude/punch. It's hard to describe it's like the difference between \"that was cool\" and \"FUCK YES I AM A GOD\" both were cool but only one makes you want to [\"Call your mama in the room and show her how great you are!\"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTY24O3exH8)", "Tricky was better as a straight racing game, for sure, but SSX3 had this feel of being fresh and freeform for the time. I specifically remember the first time I played the US PlayStation Magazine demo I was blown away by how smooth everything was carving through the track. I would just lose myself for hours exploring the mountain and re-running lines I liked.", "I totally understand, they definitely gave more life to the characters in Tricky which is a huge upside. I’m a sucker for customization and open world so 3 stuck out to me. Not to mention i was 3 when tricky came out so SSX 3 has the nostalgia factor to me haha! I love all the games for all they offer", "Without SSX3, there would be no super Mario Bros.", "🤯", "I still think Tricky is a little more fun, but SSX3 is definitely great. \n\nAnybody ever play Rippin' Riders on Dreamcast?", "> cartoonish and beyond unrealistic.\n\nYou say this as if these are bad things, but that doesn't make any sense.", "I agree with both sides honestly haha, i was 3 when Tricky came out so SSX 3 was my first\n\nI havent but now i wanna try all these classic snowboard titles im hearin about!", "Oh i can 100% see that, the openness of SSX3 is appealing. You can actually see the makings of SSX3 in Tricky with \"Untracked\", which is essentially an open mountain, but it does lack features and the flexibility of SSX3. \n\nI don't know if you have heard but the producer of the SSX series is planning an spiritual successor https://gamenewsplus.net/2021/04/04/ssx-tricky-creator-announces-brand-new-snowboarding-game-31993/", "SSX 3 was the first time I realized my tastes in gaming were changing. Even though it was bigger, louder, newer, I wanted it to be Tricky. I think it was in the controls, maybe the pacing of the levels, too.", "Thankyou so much man!", "God I miss SSX3. I had so many hours on it. Is there any modern replacement?", "Besides this being backwards compatible on xbox, i hear there’s nothin new that compares to ssx :(", "On tour was my favorite, you could play as Mario, Luigi, and Peach on the gc version", "Man's gotta eat, Mr. Lahey.", "You mean snowboard kids", "SSX 3 really was incredible. The original SSX was what got me to (regretfully, today) sell my Dreamcast and all my games for a PS2. My favorite map in that game was always \"Untracked\" which you unlock at the end, and SSX3 was basically just taking that concept and building the whole game around it.\n\nHaving the balance between that free mountain exploration and the excellent track design the series is known for was really, really enjoyable. At the time it felt pretty incredible to just explore the mountain as the 'open world' concept was still fresh then and being expanded into all these genres. \n\nThe open mountain in this game was awesome as well because even the free roam areas were well designed and feel like the tracks used for races. \n\nPinnacle of the series IMO - open ended gameplay, SSX excellent track design and gameplay, and killer soundtrack.\n\nGood video too OP, solid and didn't feel like a first effort.", "Because they're an example of PS1 era games that just don't hold up. Loved it back in the day, but they were wretched games and 1080 on N64 basically obsoleted them forever.", "Ah my favorite youtuber. Naked Jakob", "Yoooo CrabLord", "Emulate it, pcsx2 is the way", "> Anybody ever play Rippin' Riders on Dreamcast?\n\nWow, I'd totally forgotten about that game. Definitely had and played it a ton.", "What about Steep? No skill changes and costume customization usually requires buying stuff with real money, but the gameplay, ambiance, and graphics are fantastic", "It's hard to actually determine if Tricky was a better game, or if I just enjoyed it more because it used the song \"It's Tricky\"", "i was 12 when I was playing SSX3. i legit would play it all night long. I started playing wow when it came out and between battlegrounds i'd do runs down SSX3. I still have my old gamecube in a box somewhere with this game. prob should pull it out and play some more when i'm bored Working from home.", "coooooOOOOOOOL **BOARDERS**!\n\nHere we go!", "This is absolutely one of my favourite games regardless of genre. But as a snowboarding game it's without comparison. Sure, it's pretty arcadey compared to other games, but the feel is just incredible and the controls amazing.", "I had it on PS2 and it made me love Bonobo's music.", "I loved Coolboarders and also the Amped series on the OG Xbox. Those games were so fun.", "Without 2003, there would be no 2002.", "Played both, honestly I felt ssx3 was all around a better game. They really dialed in a few things that tricky lacked.", "I'm not going to give you my hat, but I loved this game.", "SSX tricky hands down but cool boarders 2001 was good as well.", "Can this dude finish a single sentence without a jump cut making his speech sound stilted?", "This guy is just trying to be that fitness ball guy but not doing a particularly good job", "Nakey Jakey inspired the green screen forsure but i’ve always been this exact way :)", "Cool video my dude :\\] You've got a subscriber!", "Are lots of the mountains named from the coastal range in bc?", "SSX soundtracks were the bomb. I was heavily into underground hip-hop around that time and it was mind-blowing seeing fairly unknown(to mainstream music listeners) artists on a big title soundtrack.", "R-R-R-ozel", "Dark Summit was my go to boarding game. The best out there? Doubtful, but goddamn did my buddy and I play the hell out of it and love every minute.", "steep is better", "Dark Summit i gotta try that out! I’ve been hearing about so many others im takin notes haha", "Yeah man so many tracks i would’ve never learned about if i never played this", "Thankyou man! :)", "I’ve never written a scripted video before so I definitely stuttered a lot and had to salvage haha", "I’m hearin so many good things about Cool boarders i’m orderin it forsure!", "Yeah i’m just a normie was too young to play the actual classics. But now i’m intrigued to catch up!", "I was 6 when this came out and i forget how i even got it haha. But its compatible on xbox now so i got to relive it!", "I’m just exaggerating a bit haha i gotta check Steep out forsure! :)", "Whatup daddio", "Hahaha yea Nakey Jakey inspired my greenscreen!", "Haha yeah I figured. This video made me want to check out the game for sure though. But most things you mentioned are present in steep and the graphics are sweet. Definitely recommend checking it out. It's super fun", "That would be not very many PS2s...", "Thanks man yeah i totally agree with you. I’m biased bc it was my first ssx but I appreciate that!!", "Fun video! I fucking loved SSX 3, and Tricky. I go back and forth on which one I like more, Tricky had the attitude, while SSX 3 really captured the feel and freeness of snowboarding imo. Do a video on nba street volume 2 next.", "I think you mean M&Ms cart racing", "Hell yeah man i forgot about how cool that was!", "Amped 2 was better. Doing 6 backflips and a 1440 isnt realistic.", "Haha yes man totally! And NBA street too was so fun with stretch i’m definitely doin a vid thankyou", "I gotta check Amped out! But btw i literally just did 6 backflips in real life right now", "Agreed!", "*SSX Tricky has entered the chat*", "For sure man! Keep it up!", "Next vid “Why SSX Tricky is better than SSX 3” 😂", "1080 is the only snowboarding game ive played where the sense of weight, the way you carve the snow, landing jumps, all feels really good. it's a great spot in between a sim and arcade game, similar to sega rally.\n\nSSX was fun, but I still go back and play 1080 because no other snowboarding game has the same feel", "I got a PS2 and no Tricky.", "First game I download every time I get a new system. Just got it on my Series S.", "It looks amazing on the new xbox’s sooooo worth it!", "Ahh yes. The reason all my fricking n64 controller sticks are completely fucked. Best snowboard game for sure. Penguin board ftw!", "what happened to him?", "It's tricky to rock around to rock around it's right on time it's trickaaaay", "Same sir but you're filling that NakeyJakey hole. I've subbed :)", "Yeah, that first time Run-DMC kicked in, I was hooked.", "Me and my brother would fight as siblings do. One day he got both my SSX discs and chucked them out the window. I cherished those games so much, he knew that would break me. Then a UFC event happened in that room lol", "Yo I literally just subbed and commented on your channel. I didn't realize you were the uploader of the video lol. Great work man!", "I disagree.", "It’s not because SSX tricky is?", "Ok i agree u win", "Thankyou so much man! I’ll head there right now to meet ya 🤙", "Thankyou sir ❤️🤝", "Ok all SSX games are the best can we all admit hahah", "Just got a PS2 and still had SSX 3 from when I was younger. I’m having a blast. I’m missing my fifa street 2 disc tho if anyone has an extra! Lol", "Its wild how we lost games as we grew up, i wish I would’ve cared more because now i’m a collector of them!!", "Great stuff man; gonna go play the SSX on game pass now. Loved the green screen and sound effects.", "this was a well made video, subscribed.", "I heard of this magic thing called an emulator and it’s completely free!", "Bro SSX Tricky was my LIFE. I remember playing that game for countless hours trying to max out every character with every costume and board. The soundtrack was amazing too", "Bro I literally thought you WERE nakey jakey, watched the entire video, and then looked at your channel and thought, weird must be his alt channel. Still really enjoyed it", "Thankyou man! It’s definitely worth playing especially on the new xbox :)", "Thankyou man 🤝", "Hahah thankyou that means a lot, this makes me excited to keep gettin better at this :)", "SSX 2012 was a much better game IMO", "Gtfo Amped 2 is the best snowboarding game ever.", "damn... why am I crying?", " I love for SSX: On Tour here? As a skiier I was so excited to see that they added that to the game", "Seems like OP is here commenting on stuff, nice work dude, good video.", "Calling this a snowboard game is an insult to snowboarding.", "This is the correct answer.", "this felt like JakeyNakey old videos.\nand i really enjoyed it! Sweet, funny, to the point", "Although heavily unrealistic, we can agree there are snowboards", "They have skiis whaaaaaat? As a skier, I gotta play that", "Thankyou man i appreciate that!", "Hey we can cry together 🤝", "I gotta try out amped it sounds hype!", "I loved it so much, they just had to do better with customization in my opinion. Other than that it was beautiful", "I agree. Maybe we'll get a re release.", "Agreed. But it is not a snowboarding game. In my opinion.", "Great video. Also idk if it was just for the joke but it doesn't matter which side your skis are on", "Thankyou that means a lot!", "Thankyoy! The ski shop actually put L and R stickers on, but i know so it is mainly for the joke lol", "I'm pretty sure I cried when I finally unlocked the final map. Was it like \"freestyle\" it something? It took me forever when I was younger, the relief just overcame me I guess.", "No wonder I loved both those games and their soundtracks", "I use the game cube dolphin emulator to play tricky every week.", "Lost interest at “free to play live service”", "Tricky had unbelievably good level design, and taking shortcuts felt much more special since you'd have Rahzel (the DJ) do a different freaky voice depending on how hard the shortcut was. \n\nBUT, SSX 3 controlled so much better. To me, it's ultimately more fun for that reason.", "Tricky was the first PS2 game I got (20 years ago this Xmas...wtf). Recently hooked my PS2 up again and been playing it like crazy. It still holds up so well. Surely due a remake or HD version at least.", "I can remember playing SSX, Tricky and SSX3. Most memorable was competing with my brother about who could get the highest score in SSX 3. You can jerk one of the analogue sticks back and forward on a rail and build up insane combo numbers. When we realized that, the game changed completely. Good times, good times.", "That golden snowboarder man", "Maaaannnn. I rented this from Blockbuster so many times. Nancy for the Tricks and tommy for the speed.", "\"Hi EA Games here. We are proud to announce the return of SSX Remaster. You totally won't be disappointed.\"\n\nI guess wanting SSX coming back could be a monkey's paw wish.", "First game I ever completed fully. Still one of my favorites of all time.", "https://youtu.be/TrSNYGCtNLw", "Very much nakeyjakey vibes, I miss that guy, havent seen a new vid in some time now, hope hes doing alright.\nThis guys vid is ace too though.", "People don't like negative opinions on things as much I've noticed.", "oh man those half pipe combo's... loved that game", "I really loved how you can just go down the whole mountain! Weird how there hasn't been an ssx4", "SSX3 is available for Xbox on the market place. Best snowboarding game ever period.", "The proper statement should be ‘without SSX there would need no Morrowind’ … SSX came out on launch day with the PS2 back in 2000.", "While on the topic of PS2 emulation, there is a new PS2 emulator for Android, attach a controller and enjoy PS2 games on the go now. Shits bonkers.", "Sometimes I would spend hours just going down the slope you get dropped off from the helicopter. Beautiful game. Probably the best sports game I’ve ever played.", "Pipedream! Had to get gold in showoff on Alaska for it. Took weeks of attempts as a kid to pull it off!", "Tricky was literally the only game I've ever been good at and I still have no idea why to this day. Literally terrible at everything else.", "I've played them all, and SSX On Tour is the best one IMO. Endless replayability due to the ranking system, enormous map, great playlist and a fantastic cartoony graphics style. It really captures the skier/snowboarder bum aesthetic so well.", "https://youtu.be/TTFhxgSGXrc", "I think maybe just garibaldi, the maps are all over the world", "Amped was way better", "He's not wrong but that's an annoying video.", "It's a bad thing. SSX is a garbage racing game. It's not what snowboarding represents.", "It’s tricky", "It's sad looking back seeing how full games were with the amount of customization options that were just there as basic features. Now all that stuff is striped away and sold back in the form of loot boxes or just buy from the in game store with real money.", "Ssx tricky and burnout 3 are the undeniable best in their genres tho", "Loved Tricky sooo much. Dope soundtrack ridiculous stunts, fun characters, so much shit to unlock. I fear a remake would put 80% of the game behind microtransactions and ruin the fun.", "The SSX series was fantastic, but I think for me the most groundbreaking was Amped. And most recently, Infinite Air (Mark McMorris) has satisfied my itch in the offseason. It can get a little bit ridiculous at times.", "Post on Patreon from April says he's taking a break for a bit... but damn it's been over a year since last upload :(", "Cool Boarders 2 is by far my vote for best snowboarding game ever!", "Well that’s just crazy talk.", "Amped is the correct answer. Brilliant game and loads of fun finding the snowmen.", "Over here acting like snowboarding kids wasn't a thing", "Untracked?", "Does anyone know what happened to him?", "The radio and DJ were also amazing", "\\> move to NYC\n\n\\> get GF\n\n\\> live your damn life\n\ni can't blame him.", "Everyone knows SSX TRicky was the best.", "\\> previous video income no longer pays enough to live in NYC with a GF and live your damn life\n\n\\> make new videos because that's how you were able to move to NYC and get a GF and live your damn life\n\nlol. \n\nnot saying that's the case here. i have no idea about his personal life, i just clicked his social media links for the most recent posts.", "Quite literally SSX be the best snowboarding game is the real crazy talk. Glad you enjoy it but there are so many better games out there.", "i think hes just taking a [break](https://youtu.be/0bpIkedx-fQ?t=440)", "Burnout Paradise is the best racing game ever and I'll die on that hill", "You have my Krieger PCPD special, brother.", "It's one of the best games I've ever played. Absolute top 5 for how great it made you feel playing it.", "I'd really try to find your own way of editing. It's identical and pretty distracting for me at least." ]
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Why SSX 3 Is the BEST SNOWBOARDING GAME EVER!
https://youtu.be/oeOBH2c3Bmk?t=562
/r/videos/comments/r8wkll/til_that_under_the_english_channel_is_an_entombed/
[ "I thought the machine was actually quite interesting.", "Yeah, leave it alone! It has it rough enough already being entombed an all.", "Bo'ring!", "Rip old chuggy 😢", "The Whitewicks make surprisingly interesting videos strolling around the British countryside talking about industrial history (mostly railways & canals).", "Given that the first tunnel under the Hudson River, which is only 1.5 miles wide, was finished in 1908, that plan seemed a bit overambitious.", "I'm sure it did at the time but surely not looking back at it now.. The technology and know-how was well proofed and known about. The only big deal was that it was over such a long distance The were plenty of examples of it working under shorter distanced bodies of water. Thames Tunnel comes to mind as one. It was also a sign of the times. People were very ambitious then in regards to projects like this.", "There are also 3 from the 1990s", "I think he deserved his punishment. Don't you?", "The topic is interesting, but the shots - walking towards the camera, walking away from the camera - get quite repetitive after a while.", "Many times machines are buried beneath the tunnels. It's simply cheaper to do it that way than extract it." ]
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TIL that under the English Channel is an entombed boring machine from the 1800s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEtrT3E4vb8
/r/videos/comments/r8wy4u/snl_sincere_guy_stu/
[ "r/Unexpected", "The world needs more Sincere Guy Stu’s. And Phil Hartman.", "I miss Phil Hartman 🥺", "Stu is happy", "Reminds me of this scene in Buffy, with Cordelia. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUaCOHpNrTY", "For anyone who doesn't know that is four time Super Bowl champion Joe Montana.", "You know you’re a good athlete when Hayne’s asks you to sling underwear after you’ve retired. That’s a job that only the GOATs get.", "Sure, when Joe Montana does it, it's funny. When I do it at a Wendy's it's a \"felony.\"", "Phil Hartman and Bryan Cranston could've played brothers", "The rare SNL sketch with more than one joke.", "How is that funny to anyone?", "Comedy is super subjective. \n\nThat said, I think it has a Space Ghost / Harvey Birdman vibe to it. Whoever wrote that leaned into the fact that Montana lacks sophistication or depth on stage. I think it’s easily a GOAT skit.", "Goat indeed. Comedy is subjective.. but could you maybe explain to me what you found funny in this skit?", "Guy with no performance depth to him also has no mental depth to him.", "\nAlso thought it was a funny skit, especially given SNL misses a lot (justifiably). \n\nFirst the skit sets the environment of the joke (young adults getting back from a date night) the and the concept to it (their true thoughts in their head vs what they say). \nBut first big laugh joke is the roommate just saying what he means. The other two are having that relatable dance around their intentions (because they want to get it on) and this dude is simple and chill. \nDraws on a bit (i find snl skits usually do because they have to fill a time slot) but then ends on another big laugh when he says he won’t be bothered, he’s just jerking off. Just a blunt truth that you are not supposed to say. And if you can’t relate to retiring for your room from a roommate and his date to jerk off before bed (super relatable) then you probably won’t find it funny. \n\nHumor is subjective for sure though. There’s intent when a joke is written and if you aren’t for it then you won’t like it", "Thank you for that explanation. I watched this skit few times to find anything funny about it. I understand that things you mentioned could be funny for some people but I find it just as regular sarcasm and irony that I see exposed in better ways every day.\n\nIt is really weird when subjective situations are perceived in such different way.", "The idea is really funny but execution is needlessly prolonged and repeating the same joke over and over is just boring.", "*How is that funny to anyone?*, they thought.", "Disagree, that was well executed, and it was funny", "I have a hard time watching Phil Hartman clips as his death still hits me in the pit of my gut. His humor and mannerisms were so ingrained into mine back in the day it was like a part of me died too.", "And Jan Hooks. Who also passed away much too soon.", "You watched a skit a few times, that you didn't find funny? That is funny.", "Why don't you watch a Robin Williams movie to take your mind off of him, reruns of the Crocodile Hunter or some Norm McDonald standup?", "He sounds just like that guy from the Simpsons", "Yup. I really want to understand.." ]
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SNL - Sincere guy stu
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/r8xbt5/deleted_by_user/
/r/videos/comments/r8xbt5/deleted_by_user/
[ "That colorization is awful. Hopefully someone can fix that. Very interesting.", "Is this a David Lynch film? That thumbnail is terrifying.", "Anytime I watch these types of videos, all I can think is that everyone in it is dead now.", "ai upscaling is way overboard on this one", "Hopefully they are fully dead and not haunting us since we watched the video.", "Meiji-era movie. That is crazy.", "Also the playback is way too fast. Playing on 75% speed seemed much more natural.", "And most of their children too.", "It's so sad that everywhere's almost the same now.", "Me too and I HATE thinking that :(", "definitely their children. Even their grandchildren might be dead.", "Japan entered WW1 23 August 1914 most of those kids would be in their early-mid 20's.", "This is true, good perspective and great comment. \n\nThe Japanese took advantage of the central powers colonial holdings for their growing empire. These men didn't suffer near any level of the Western front, eastern front or the Middle East.", "I like the song two min in.", "Read this as 1980's and was like 'wtf Japan changed a ton in 40 years!", "Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but are you implying the Japanese military did not suffer as much as, say, the American or British military? My understanding is that it was quite the opposite.", "I absolutely am. I read the initial comment too fast thinking it said WWII but obviously that doesn't even make sense given the years involved. How embarrassing. My comment will stand as a sorry testament to the foolishness of man" ]
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[deleted by user]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVQjEB2sxBw
/r/videos/comments/r8xyom/neighbors_in_tennessee_city_worry_as_amazon/
[ "He cares at the very least a little, because he said he could care less.", "That was my entire take away too. I muttered to myself \"*couldn't* care less\" as I closed the video.", "Fuck all of these nosey people. If this homeowner wants to bask in glorious capitalism, then who is to stop them?", "Great setting for a dystopian story (à la Love Death Robots)", "This is how you know you live in a really good area. Anywhere else and porch pirates would have picked that yard clean.", "I recall an episode of electric dreams covering something like this.", "I have a feeling these folks are the victims of a credit card fraud scheme of some sort. Their story doesn't make any sense at all.", "Sounds like some kind of drop shipping program gone wrong.", "They explain it in the video, though I don't fully understand it.\n\nThey have a friend who has a contract with amazon... and for some reason that contact expires they send the packages to this house, and they sort through the stuff to send to China for re-sale?\n\nYeah, I thought I understood, but I don't", "Yes I caught that part, which is why I'm speculating that they are the victims of a fraud scheme. A simple example would be someone gets catfished and the perpetrator gains their trust. The perpetrator then orders goods with a stolen credit card and ships to the victim. The victim is then asked to ship the packages elsewhere, often overseas to the perpetrator where the perp then sells the goods for cash.\n\nIF this is the case, however, it's pretty surprising that no one has caught on with the amount of packages, so I don't know.", "Clould be that someone from China makes a legitimate purchase just so they can write a verified review. If most of those boxes were junky products, it would make sense that no one would bother stealing them.", "When you sell with Amazon you package and send it to an Amazon warehouse. Why things say sold by XYZ but fulfilled by Amazon.\n\nLikely shipping tons of crap from China using this person's address so it shows they are selling from the US.\n\nContract drops, Amazon returns all the goods back to the \"seller's\" address.", "Me. I will personally stop them.", "Not sure if this is some type of new Onion news or just fucked up reality. Either way... It is fucked up that any reporters would make any \"news\" out of that. Let them be. But also... Go on and check on the health of that person first.", "That seems very plausible.", "Can guarantee they'll be picking at it now with all this media coverage lol", "Yea I ain’t watching this. Im a mailman in a rural area and probably deliver close to 200 Amazon packages daily on my route. Watching this will give me PTSD lol", "Sounds like a man in the middle scam. They get offered money to purchase certain products or goods to then forward to others", "For stranded FBA units Amazon would either destroy the inventory or send back the items in complete casepacks, not individually packaged deliveries. Someone is up to something fishier.", "I'm almost with you, except what was mentioned in the video: These \"neighbors\" are harming the re-sale value on all of the other homes in the neighborhood. Effectively preventing people from moving away. And for what?", "The only way not to care at least a little about something is to be unaware of its existence in the first place.", "Not always. Used to be a seller on Amazon with a fairly large inventory in FBA for awhile and had a product sku taken off. I was receiving both cases and single boxes at my warehouse for months. Some days it was a single item other days it would be 10+ cases, at one point they sent a single item on a pallet for some reason. It’s all due to how they balance your products across FBA centres.", "Ah gotcha, at our warehouse we never get individual boxes sent back unless it’s customer returns", "What a surprise, the guy with half his teeth \"could care less\".", "This is almost assuredly a shellback scam of some kind gotten out of hand. (Note that they said some of the packages are empty)\n\nThey likely have never met this \"freind\", pay for these packages and don't know what to do with them so they just leave them outside without looking at them.", "Now I want a warehouse.", "Nah. You knew exactly what he meant. Everyone always knows, and complains about it anyway.", "Sounds like how I ended up with a free $300 ice machine that I never ordered.", "Thank you for your service!", "I’ll take it off your hands if you want,…", "Money Laundering perhaps🧐", "in many places you must maintain a certain image of your place or the city can do something about it. And nosey? its nosey if they wana see whats inside the house, these boxes are on display fool", "These yokels don't live in an HOA or a city, sucks to have trashy neighbors but it's their property, they can do what they want with it. I think it's hilarious.", "id post it online everywhere and happen to mention in so run down bars how easy it is to get quick money robbing my neighbours cuz they wouldnt even notice. or id handle it myself with a roller or excavator, oops sorry didnt see the boxes....", "Yes, I'm surprised that a random craigslist posting about 'free Christmas gifts, come pick them up' or a anon Salvation Army donation call hasn't taken place." ]
34
videos
Neighbors in Tennessee city worry as Amazon packages pile up outside home
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-VydZ2wArE
/r/videos/comments/r8y9b2/that_time_when_saudi_arabia_slaughtered_russia/
[ "So the deal is to play the Russian anthem as badly as reasonably possible, while Putin has to stand by and listen?", "And boy did they succeed.", "This motivates me." ]
3
videos
That time when Saudi Arabia slaughtered Russia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huF3PFXU-V0
/r/videos/comments/r8ykfk/wilt_chamberlain_picks_up_a_guy_using_pure_arm/
[ "Red Buttons.", "He jumps. I make my kids do that when I grab them over a gate or fence.", "It's weird to think that there was a point in our existence where we were put down and never picked up again.", "This is one of those tear jerker thoughts as a parent.", "You could get into judo or jujitsu…", "Wilt the Stilt", "Don't give up hope, the guy in this video is no spring chicken.", "Where's his cousin Blue Zippers?", "[Yep (He's on the left)](https://www.thatericalper.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Wilt-Chamberlain-Arnold-Schwarzenegger-and-Andre-the-Giant-on-the-on-the-set-of-Conan-the-Destroyer..jpg)", "Wilt's probably the strongest man to ever play in the NBA. Stories of his strength are pretty legendary. Picking up full grown NBA players by one arm up and over railings kinda stuff. Maxed out all the machines in Arnold's portal gym in Conan the Destroyer (which Arnold couldnt do). Could leap and take quarters off the top of the backboard.", "His back moves when he picks him up, it's not all arm strength.", "Wilt almost feels like an urban legend more than an actual NBA hall of famer sometimes.", "about to say the same thing. go with judo, your pocket book will thank you and there is an international fraternity aspect.", "Join a MMA gym. Believe me you will be picked up and put down, it will be involuntary nonetheless.", "Yeah Arnold talks about him coming to the gym and just racking up the full stack on the machine and repping endlessly. In the pic with him, Arnold, and Andre you can see Wilt just has such long limbs that give him great leverage that translates into crazy strength.", "You sure? I'm pretty sure he's the guy in the middle, but I'll take your word for it.", "I think it was Bill Russell who used to tell a story about how he once went up for a rebound, was coming down with it, and suddenly the ball stopped going down and just went right back up and through the hoop without him ever letting go of it. Wilt had grabbed the rebound while he was coming down, and just went right back and dunked it with Bill Russell still hanging onto the ball.", "That’s Red Buttons from Pete’s Dragon!" ]
18
videos
Wilt Chamberlain picks up a guy using pure arm strength and zero strain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlzPmEw3KFw
/r/videos/comments/r8zphn/rob_worling_ice_dunk_30_25_foot_underthelegs_dunk/
[ "This is the kind of shit I want to see. Short, sweet, to the point, and pretty cool.", "This should be an Olympic sport.", "More impressive? Sticking the landing.", "The skating uphill at the beginning was the most impressive part for me" ]
5
videos
Rob Worling - Ice Dunk 3.0 (25 foot under-the-legs dunk on ice skates)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzEoBrr9gRA
/r/videos/comments/r9019x/south_park_lockdown_dont_be_a_sheep/
[ "We should follow Germany's restrictions and enact a lockdown for unvaccinated people. The idiots in this country are allowing for the virus to easily mutate. \n\nShit, just the other day I was reading about how if you have a bad reaction if you contract covid, your odds of dying due to other causes (which become exacerbated by the covid virus) within the following year increase by about 260% *for those under 65*.\n\nGet the vaccine if you haven't already, otherwise *you're the sheep*.", "Been a while since I’ve seen SP, but is Stan middle aged now?..", "Germany is like half the size of Texas. Stringent restrictions and lockdowns aren't really feasible in most of the US.", "Germany has 80 million people. Geographic size isn’t that important in this scenario.", "It seems like South Park is only doing bi-annual TV specials/movies now, so this recent Post-Covid special takes place after a multi-decade timeskip after the Vaccination special from earlier this year.", "I never thought I'd see the day when a majority of people would celebrate and welcome with open arms increased government power and autoritarian legislation and restrictions on freedoms like this. \n\nAre people stupid for not taking the vaccine? Sure. \n\nShould you open your arms to increased government reach and authoritarian views because of it? Hell no. \n\nFirst of all the vaccine merely protects YOU from getting seriously sick from the virus. You can still contract is as easily, and you can spread it as easily. Particularly this new strain from SA (which seems to have less sideeffects, thank god) So what's the deal?\n\nAlso, would you be willing to impose such lockdowns on a majority of the rest of the world? Because most rich countries ran off with like 90% of the vaccines and left the rest of the world to suffer with little to no vaccines. Mostly because the rich part of the world fucked those countries up for centuries in order to extract resources from them and then up and left at some point.\n\nPeople like you scare me more than unvaccinated people. No honestly, I don't think you fully understand the ramifications of what you're suggesting.", "Population distribution is pretty significant when it comes to enforcing lockdowns.", "Paramount streaming purchased something like 10 South Park specials to be made. The recent one has all the kids grown up and dealing with covid.", "IT: Chapter 2 vibes.", "That’s a good point, band suppose that’s why larger urban areas are having so much luck with the vaccine passports.\n\nBut conspiring germanys footprint to Texas’s is bananas..", "I’m vaccinated and wear my mask every day, but I’ll always support others’ right to choose their own path.\n\nNone of these people ever stop to realize that nearly every time we give up a small piece of personal freedom we won’t get it back without a fight. That shit adds up over time.", "> The idiots in this country are allowing for the virus to easily mutate. \n\nRemind me again where the most recent variant came from.", "Fuck off psycho.\n\nAnyone reading this. Make sure to report and tag people like this. There's far too many fucked up people out there commenting about murder. It's important to call them out on their shit right then and there.", "the omicron variant has 50 mutations, 32 of which occur on the spike protein. it spreads easily through vaccinated and unvaccinated populations, which will result in additional mutations. a lockdown for only the unvaccinated accomplishes nothing. we need a full lockdown again to slow the spread.\n\nas an aside, since people don't seem to understand this, you cannot eliminate a respiratory virus with animal reservoirs through vaccines. the goal of vaccines is to slow the spread to alleviate pressure on local ICUs. omicron will spread, and covid will continue to mutate in both the unvaccinated and the (out-of-date) vaccinated. throw all the \"idiots\" you want on a desert island, but these facts remain true.", "LOL, how is it \"murder\" exactly, dumbass? That would be like saying lockdowns are false imprisonment. Hello -- you do understand it's not murder when the government says it's okay. Do you even understand how democracy works? You sound like an antivaxxer who needs to be reeducated very seriously. Go drink more of the Trump Kool Aid", "What the fuck are you saying?\n\nYou literally said people should be allowed to enter other peoples homes, and to kill them. That “patriots like you” would be happy to do that. That they should lose all of their rights.\n\nThat is NOT democracy, and I’m not sure you understand what it is.\n\nYou seriously need some fucking help. This might be the most fucked up comment I’ve ever read on here.", "I'm saying if people just vote to allow that, it's okay, including killing people. Voting makes everything okay, automatically. That's democracy. Pay attention, Trumptard, I know democracy is hard to understand. Antivaxxers like you are putting everyone's lives at risk and then you want to act like drastic measures are wrong. Anyone who challenges the experts or goes against the Science should lose all rights -- NEVER challenge the Science. Next you're going to tell me you oppose lockdowns because they're \"taking people's rights.\" You're clearly a fascist and need serious help.", "Fuck off. \n\nYou cannot \"vote to allow murder\". The concept is fucked up, and it's a basic human right.\n\nI'm vaccinated. I think people should get vaccinated. I voted against Trump.\n\nI am not ok with encouraging people to literally enter the homes of others and murdering them, such as you are.\n\nDo you understand what the basic principle of science is? It's to challenge, and question things. There's a rigid process to this. You fall into that category of people that are so dumb, they don't realize just how dumb they are. \n\nFuck. You.", "I hope so. I watched a series the other night though on a kidnapper who killed/raped a lot of people, and then said very similar things to think online. Most people just rolled their eyes that they were trolling.\n\nI'm halfway between he's just trolling, or he actually believe this stuff. The more he's replied, the more I'm leaning toward the later.", "> You cannot \"vote to allow murder\". The concept is fucked up, and it's a basic human right.\n\nUm, what? Do you even think about what you're saying for one second? If you vote to allow ANYTHING, it's backed up by murder. Period. If you vote to allow people to pay taxes, guess what happens if they refuse to pay taxes -- you got it, Trumptard, they will be killed! You really think all these people would just be going along happily with the law if the threat of being killed wasn't behind it? Why do you think the police have guns, genius? Just for fun? LOL, you need to stop drinking the Republican Kool Aid, it's sad.\n\n> I am not ok with encouraging people to literally enter the homes of others and murdering them, such as you are.\n\nUm, so you oppose the police defending themselves when serving arrest warrants into people's homes? Helloooooooooo, do you even think about what you're saying? Antivaxxers like you are TRYING TO KILL EVERYONE, it makes sense that antivaxxers need to be killed before they kill us all. Voting for that is OBVIOUS.\n\n> Do you understand what the basic principle of science is? It's to challenge, and question things.\n\nDo you realize that 99.99% of all EXPERTS agree that antivaxxers are idiots and are killing millions of people even as we speak? A basic principle of science is YOU TRUST THE SCIENCE. Listen to the government experts, like Dr. Fauci and President Biden. But no, you always have some excuse about \"challenge and question.\" PEOPLE ARE DYING. If it saves one life, it's worth killing as many people as necessary. This is not hard.\n\n> You fall into that category of people that are so dumb, they don't realize just how dumb they are. \n\nAt least I'm not an anti-science, anti-government, anti-vax, Trump dick sucker fascist like you, who is literally murdering hundreds of people by IGNORING THE SCIENCE!", "He seems to be the opposite side of the spectrum though. He thinks if you're not vaccinated, they should be murdered in their house. He called me a \"trumptard\" for suggesting murder isn't good.", "LOL. you are a great troll. I thought you were serious for a second. My bad.", "Interesting...", "Well, if you really are interested...\n\nSouth Africa has one of the best 'Genomic Surveillance' systems and labs in the world. They frequently are the first detect variants in many diseases, but also Covid for obvious reasons. It in no way suggests where the variant originated. England also has a very good one. \n\nIt's going to take a lot genomic forensic work to narrow down where these variants truly originated, and that very well may be impossible. But just because it was first detected in South Africa, doesn't mean it was from there. Like, you are never going to hear of a new variant first detected in any country without very high end genomic testing equipment. Turkmenistan isn't going to detect a new variant first, but South Africa, the UK, France, Germany, the US, China, Japan, India, Australia or Russia might." ]
25
videos
South park lockdown - DON'T be a Sheep
https://youtu.be/zk872ERRVxA
/r/videos/comments/r90jl0/how_a_nytimes_reporter_collects_royalties_from/
[ "Such elaborate scammers, no wonder people fall for it.", "“outlaw ocean” as in “illegal fishing” as in, this sounds exactly like a fishing scam. Ian is a cunt", "Idk, it seems pretty obvious to be a house of cards from like the 2nd email.", "Yeah, any semi-experienced, skeptical artist would have noped out at that point, as did the maker of the video. Even *my* first thought, before he got to the 2nd e-mail, was \"I bet he didn't contact, I dunno, Drake...\". Basically, like most scams it targets the vulnerable, in this case the independent, minor, upstart artists, not the wise, monied, established giants who a) know better, b) have better agents and lawyers.", "Oh yeah I'm sure you would have noticed right away, didn't mean you", "Oh for sure not you, everyone else but you", "Soon to be Ian Urbina, formerly of the New York Times.", "Lmao, I was kinda thinking 'Okay, maybe this isn't really a scam though. Just a bad deal..' until he showed that 460 odd artists wrote 2120 songs for the book lmao. \n\nTotal fucking grifter, and definitely a scam.", "It is 100% legal because the musicians signed that contract. Morally it's an absolute asshole move and exploitation of the artists of course. Glad this video got made because such methods of misleading and fake promises need to be exposed.", "And then you get to the bombshell that the music publisher is RUN BY HIS WIFE?!?!", "Probably really run by him, with his wife listed as owner. Speculation ofc.", "If the company can't prove they spent $50k on marketing per artist as written in the contract, wouldn't it be breach of contract?", "If they aren't really a non profit they can't represent themselves as such.", "I hope this video ends up at the front page. It deserves it.", "Yeah it's s volume game like the nigerian prince scam. Obvious to most but working on some", "Based off how I lost my band to our old label. It can be worded in a way that the 50k in marketing never actually has to happen.", "Ian Urbina scam artist", "This needs to be talked about. This is a massive deal. It might not be illegal in the strict legal definition, but it is a pretty bad look for NY Times if they continue to have a person on their staff who seems to be engaged in fairly scummy behavior.", "Outlaw Ocean has actually done some amazing work. At least, if Urbina's recent New Yorker [article](https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/12/06/the-secretive-libyan-prisons-that-keep-migrants-out-of-europe) is taken as truthful. He and several colleagues (including Dutch filmmaker Mea Dols de Jong) were apparently kidnapped by militia in Libya in the process of researching the article, which exposes human rights violations in EU-supported migrant detention centres.", "Is anyone good at editing wikipedia? Looks like someone has been trying to add this controversy to his Wikipedia and it keeps getting removed.\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ian_Urbina&action=history", "No wonder reporters don't do good investigative journalism anymore... They are running the scams.", "They probably would say that the 50k was in total for all artists.", "... Literally what unions are for. Unfortunately, the rich have successfully tricked a third of our country into thinking unions are the devil.", "Ian Urbina is a scam artist.", "\"Oh, no money but lots of exposure?\" [**Fuck you, pay me.**](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVkLVRt6c1U)", "Yeah, because the best way to get exposure and publicity as an up-and-coming artist is to be one voice in a sea of five hundred others. Even with a commodity as worthless as \"exposure\" often is, there is a **vast ocean** between how Ian presented the project and its reality.", "Wikipedia power users and mods are absolutely fucking scum\n\nThey will revert any edit that they didn't write themselves, even if they don't know what the fuck they're talking about\n\nIt's extremely annoying when you're an expert about something and you try to update an article but it gets overruled instantly by some fuckhead who can't possibly know this. \n\nI'm not even talking about making an article too dense , I mean when there are details wrong on an existing thing and you can source a correction...", "They delete content with references from primary sources \n\nYou're uninformed here dude they're just toxic", "I'm sure what you say has happened, but in this case it's hard to call this video a reliable primary source for Wikipedia. Don't get me wrong, I think I trust what he is saying, but Wikipedia isn't for breaking news from random people on the internet, it's an encyclopedia. If what he said is true, I'm sure a credible organization will cover it eventually and the page will be updated.\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Video_links#As_references", "so what’s with the confidence scam with all those artists?", "Yeah again I'm not interesting in the example here, I'm saying at large in general there is now way to guarantee that you can update a wiki page, as they often revert your edit no matter what you include as a source. Take care :)", "So.. a member of the mainstream media is a one \"man\" wretched hive of scum and villainy?\n\nI'll alert the medi..oh wait....", ">Wikipedia power users and mods are absolutely fucking scum\n\nNot exactly the same thing here but there's a formerly famous Wikipedia page that lists the names of every spacecraft in the Iain M Banks series *Culture*. Some dude removed it in 2019 after like ten years on the site, said it didn't belong there. I go look at his history, and all he fucking does is remove shit once every couple years and then spend days and days fighting on the talk page about how the page should not be on Wikipedia. Oh, and he's an admin. It's fucking incredible. Astounds me.\n\nThe list of ship names now only appears to be hosted on a for-profit website that serves as a wiki for the *Culture* series and is making somebody quite a pretty penny.\n\n\n-------\n\n\"Wikipedia is not a place for lists of things,\" they say, and this admin in disguise Leaxe claims book nerds cannot properly format a page. Okay, well here's the [List of Fictional Spacecraft](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fictional_spacecraft) page, a nonsense article that is simply a list of spaceships users found to be notable from books, video games, movies, comics, and magazines.\n\nClassic wikipedia, this is why you guys don't get donations. Otaku admins into niche video game culture delete well-formatted and oft-cited pages from beloved book series while random shit slapped together is merged into a childlike pastiche of science fiction design spanning a dozen mediums across a hundred years of fiction and is upheld as notable.", "No, they delete shit because they want to.", "For real, super messed up. I have no idea why he's doing it.", "I think I found the page you're talking about, [there was much more of a deletion process than you're implying](https://web.archive.org/web/20201213215954/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_spacecraft_in_the_Culture_series). The page was deleted by an admin following a unanimous discussion, and the user who proposed deletion wasn't even an admin. I would highly recommend reading the reasons for deletion on that page, and the [FAQ on the admin's page](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sgeureka). Wikipedia has an excellent standard of quality that keeps it reliable. if non-notable fan pages find a home on Wikipedia, then the quality drops dramatically (simply look at fan-run wiki sites). It was also tagged with [issues that weren't solved for 4 years](https://web.archive.org/web/20191206005457/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_spacecraft_in_the_Culture_series). It's sad to me how often I see FUD thrown around by people who don't involve themselves in or even learn about the Wikipedia editing process.\n\nI'm genuinely sorry you now need to use fandom (it is absolutely terrible and second only to fextralife), but it's pretty silly to assume your interest deserves free hosting from Wikipedia. If you want a better wiki experience, look into [hosting your own MediaWiki](https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Installation_guide)!", "Found the wikipedia admin.", "That video is surely a primary source. The guy that made it is one of the people conned. \n\n>Primary sources are documents, images or artifacts that provide firsthand testimony or direct evidence concerning an historical topic under research investigation. \n\n\nSo why can't his video be linked to? Why must it be typed down?", "I thought your response was funny at first but it genuinely makes me sad that people distrust Wikipedia like this. I hope you can look into Wikipedia editing and change your perspective, maybe even contribute.", "You're so full of shit dude, your own link shows that the guy who transcribed the article to a for profit wiki is a self proclaimed otaku and Mensa member. You're so deep in the grift you really think people aren't going to see that and second guess it? No wonder people don't like the users operating Wikipedia.\n\nI assure you I want absolutely nothing to do with anybody who can claim to moderate the website.", "Haha that is seriously grasping for straws. I'm not trying to defend the users but the process. And the reality is, nobody else cares about your little fandom, especially if you can't properly put together a Wikipedia page. Stop throwing a tantrum because you aren't getting handouts.", "A signed contact can absolutely be 100% illegal.\n\nhttps://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/fraudulent_misrepresentation", "Thanks for getting baited and demonstrating my point to everyone reading.\n\nWikipedia admins are assholes, and delete shit just because they can.", "new york times is a platform for scum and lies", "new york times content is 95% lies and made up bullshit", "good think google is using wikipedia to display data on their front page then", "lmao this is all a scam for gullible people\n\nkidnapped in libya LMAO people eat this shit up\n\nso obvious", "So from what I can tell, the user Piotrus has not been an admin for over a decade, and is a fan of The Culture (having made edits to that very page in [2006](https://sigma.toolforge.org/usersearch.py?name=piotrus&page=User%3AWinter%27s_Tulpa%2FList_of_spacecraft_in_the_Culture_series&server=enwiki&max=), and multiple to the page for [Iain Banks](https://sigma.toolforge.org/usersearch.py?name=piotrus&page=Iain_Banks&max=500&server=enwiki)). That does raise the question, why would Piotrus want to delete so many pages related to The Culture? I don't know the reason, but I don't think it's because they're an asshole, it's more likely just because the community is more able to thrive on the fandom page without having to worry about following Wikipedia's rules on notability or verifiability. Which to me are clearly the reasons that page was deleted.", "Not to condone this royalties abuse, but good in depth investigative reporting rarely pays the bills in itself." ]
49
videos
How A NYTimes Reporter Collects Royalties From Hundreds of Musicians
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTny-MYb4tE
/r/videos/comments/r90ml7/crossing_the_uncanny_valley/
[ "I’d say right smack dab in the the middle of it.", "Not quite", "Not yet. The eyes are still way off and the facial movements were really stiff.", "Reminds me of Johnny Cab.", "No" ]
5
videos
Crossing the uncanny valley?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrcbCW4y9Dw&t=49s
/r/videos/comments/r90p0y/biggus_dickus_monty_pythons_life_of_brian/
[ "He had a wife you know.", "Just about all of the roles played by Michael Palin in this film are sublime.", "Incontinentia Buttocks?", "The extra were told don't laugh, you don't get paid if you laugh.", "This cut off some of the best parts when they first bring Brian in. The throw him to the floor part is funny\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzgS61zgPEg", "100% agree with this", "Michael Palin in general as well. He did such a great job in a Fish Called Wanda.", "It's there, you just have to rewind OP's clip a bit...weird.", "Nope. Just a rumor.", "Awww I'm sad now." ]
10
videos
Biggus Dickus - Monty Python's Life of Brian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RC4Fmv5Zop4&feature=youtu.be
/r/videos/comments/r90web/manga_arent_killing_north_american/
[ "More comicsgate trash? There are basic major reasons Manga is outselling American comics that the anti-woke crowd are too moronic to parse out, and zero of them involve comics being too woke.", "I'd say the nature of the comics and their price are the reason they're dying. If you stick with one or two series, it's affordable, but these days, both DC and Marvel's storylines intersect with other series and so that $4/comic price point suddenly balloons up. I remember getting back into comics when the first Civil War came out and it was all hands on deck. You couldn't just read one line to get the full story. You had to get *everyone*'s arc to fully get the nuances of the event. \n\nMarvel's push to get rid of and replace all the classic heroes a few years ago definitely pissed off and scared away fans, but I think the fact that it's a hellz expensive hobby does way more damage to their sales.", "Comics are dying for the same reason piracy of comics is booming right now, accessibility is shit. There are no official channels where you can go to get your comic fix online, meanwhile in the land of piracy, hundreds of websites exist hosting pirated comics with ad banners, which means they're all making a profit from North American comics and their inability to adapt to the modern age.", "Comixology? DC Universe Infinite? Marvel Unlimited?", "Comixology requires a paid account, DC Universe is only available in the USA and requires a paid account, and Marvel Unlimited requires a paid account.\n\nIf piracy sites can turn a profit from hosting the material for free, so can the official publishers. People will still want to own physical copies.", "You didn't say anything about *free*, you said there were no official channels, I corrected you, you moved the goalposts. Predictable.", "I didn't move the goal posts, I said this was an accessibility issue. \n\nBesides, the point remains: if hundreds of piracy websites can turn profits hosting pirated comics, then the official creators can do the same. It'll have zero effect on the people who were already pirating the comics if they move from a pirated site to an official one, because those are the people who were going to pirate it anyways.\n\nThe fans who want physical copies and toys and posters and everything else will still exist, and they make up the vast majority of comic book profits.\n\nThe only people DC and Marvel are hurting by putting their content behind paywalls is ironically, themselves." ]
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videos
Manga Aren’t Killing North American Comics….Everything Is!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIjSdEdKelE&ab_channel=Miss_Rash
/r/videos/comments/r91v00/father_gets_corrected_by_his_twin_daughter_when/
[ "Come on dad get your shit together", "Been there, done that. Unless I can see both my girls faces it can be hard when in hurry. But love the little girl's reaction.", "Ive seen this one so many times and it never gets old, its just adorable.", "The baby is saying \"no, charlie\" not daddy.\n\nDownvote me all you like, but the kid is saying no, Charlie and pointing to Charlie and then saying harper and pointing to herself. If you don't think that's what's happening then you obviously don't speak baby.", "The stumbling run, the \"Oh, no, daddy! Daddy, Harper, daddy!\" and the uh-huh when daddy finally gets it... she's working so hard.", "Harper also making her father realize to put the blame where it belongs.", "You’re right, but you’re weirdly kinda hostile about it", "My edit was supposed to be a bit of a joke but I suppose it got lost in text 🙃", "Forgive me [Charlie Harper wherever you are](https://youtu.be/wgpzEsPhvC4?t=18).", "That is absolutely adorable.", "She’s not about to take the fall for her sisters shit.", "Yeah her little nod showing she’s glad she’s understood does it for me. Adorable", "Harper has a Romanian accent.", "What a little CUTIE!!!", "Yep def..Harper, Charlie, Harper, Charlie- she's even pointing back and forth between them.", "This is too cute haha :)", "But does that make it “fake”?", "Never says \"Daddy\". It's clearly \"Charlie\" as she points back and forth. Watched it twice and the first time it does SEEM like she says \"Daddy\" considering that's what is written on the screen, but it felt off so listened again and you can hear a kinda garbled \"Ch\" at the beginning of each of those \"Daddy\" words.\n\nOf course I came to the comments after and noticed someone at the bottom also mentioning the same thing.", "Dad’s reaction says that this isn’t the first time.\n\nOne day, i was walking my daughter home from the first grade. She took me by the hand and said, “mommy, you have to start remembering better.”", "Holy shit that's adorable af", "We just not gonna talk about how these twins are named after the character from two and a half men, or", "Pretty sure she said \"Taddy\"", "Yeaaaaaaahh, but Charlie was being a real Harper right then, so.....", "Treats him like a child, kids become their parents.", "Ok, that's enough internet for me - I'm finally going to quit while I'm ahead, that was ridiculously cute.", "Leave now before someone links the guy who fucked a coconut.", "That's when you turn that handholding into a handshake and say \"I'll try to do that, nice to meet you\"", "why would you name your daughter \"guy who makes harps\"", "Did this dude really name his kids after Charlie sheen's character in \"two and a half men\"?? Or possibly the punk singer but I'm sticking with my original thought", "Woah you’re right!\n\nI’ve seen this before and I didn’t catch that, makes sense with him saying whose Harper cause shes just saying both names and waving her hand. We don’t notice it because the subtitles are wrong and we don’t hear that the other is called Charlie till the end so *Daddy* makes way more sense.", "I have two nearly identical twins in my class. They style their hair differently, but I still frequently mix them up if they're not sitting in their assigned seats. It doesn't help that they usually wear the same outfits and have names that rhyme (Molly and Kolly). \n\nIf I call one by the wrong name and get corrected, I usually just wave my hand and say \"Molly, Kolly, same same.\"", "This is awesome. She lacks the vocabulary to elaborate further but she is using exactly the same tone that an adult would use. Her “mm-hmm” is so adult.", "shhhh....They have Tiger Blood.", "Tired. Read that as Romulan accent.", "idk i think the interesting thing about this video is maybe it is capturing the first time the distinction has been made by the twins about the twins. \n\nAtleast that's how I'm looking at it. Imagine being Harper, building a vocabulary from scratch and for all intents and purposes being transmutable with Charlie. -One day your mum is cooing at you as Charlie and the next she's rocking you to sleep as Harper. \nIt would be pretty cool if right out the gates as soon as you where able to claim distinction for yourself (and a name to boot) and that was what was being captured in this video. Who knows, maybe that was Harper? \n\n-cause lets be honest: this aint the first and it wont be the last time Dad get's these two mixed up.", "Winning", "Daaaaad!!", "At least they aren't Walden and Schmidt.", "Just me or does Harper and Charlie seem like weird names for girls?", "Charlie is usually a diminutive of Charlotte when used for girls.", "Too cute.", "Lol i bet they don't like you at all", "that's very cute", "why do i always fail to remember not to read the comments", "Thankfully they have a better sense of humor than you.", "\"Don't you put that evil on me!\"", "They named their twin girls “Charlie Harper”….. I think we found the ultimate 2&1/2 Men fans….", "i'm buying team shirley jerseys right now", "That accent is as Aussie as it gets", "Seems reasonable to me. Their first comment was \"The baby is saying \"no, charlie\" not daddy.\" and then they added the edit only after being heavily downvoted. And the edit isn't even that hostile, just seems matter-of-fact to me. You're weirdly kinda agitated about a benign comment.", "My mother calls me by my brothers name fairly often. \n\n\nThe only difference is I'm 2 years older, three inches shorter, have darker hair and live 200 miles away. \n\n\nLike totally identical.", "Don't upvote the comment stealing bot. Upvote the original comment: https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/r91v00/father_gets_corrected_by_his_twin_daughter_when/hnafx7m/", "Trust us, we know one thing about your relationship, allow us to fill you in on every thought they've ever had about you", "I have twins, this happens.", "Omg adorable I want one or two but only for a little.", "Why do you steal comments? Like what's the point? Trying to get karma or trying to blend in with the crowd before spreading propaganda on behalf of the dog food industry or something?", "Video is missing his other kids, Vod and Kanockers.", "Why are you telling me this. All I said was that the video was adorable.", "Harper is usually a girl's name; writer Harper Lee being an example.\n\nCharlie is short for Charlotte or Charlene.", "My heart just melted\n\nMelteeed", "Wasn't expecting a little girl to be named Charlie, but I don't hate it either.", "Now I really need to hear the mother's accent", "It's short for Charlemagne", "Isn't it always?", "Well daddy issues is a core aspect of that show", "It looks so nice and cute.", "Sometimes it's Charles Martel", "My kids aren't even twins and I confuse the two of them", "Charlotte, Caroline etc", "The horse?", "Just grab them in the afternoon and release them in the evening. Use candy as bait.", "Name's become popular recently and it's mostly after the author Harper Lee.", "Yup, I have 2 sets of twin sisters and when they were young you could only really tell by seeing their complete face otherwise you get a 50/50 shot at getting it wrong. Once they got older and changed hair or attitudes it was a lot easier.", "My friends kid is named Charlotte, but we call her Charlie, char‐char, and occasionally chuckles. One of the fun things about kids is giving them embarrassing nicknames.", "Oh damn.", "I wondered how Romulus, MI could have an accent when they’re 10 miles away. \n\nI’m also tired", "🤣🤣", "Yup, that's exactly what I wrote. Good job, bud, proud of ya", "Wonder how many twins were named something at birth and accidentally got swapped at some point and no one knows", "I hope a lot.", "Stifling a child's sense of individuality, you sound like a great teacher.", "lol", "Just Charlie. It's not rare", "Pass that shit bro", "I have two brothers and a sister and my mom regularly has to cycle through them all, even my sister, before she can get my name out.", "I think this is called \"prosodic stress\". Very interesting to see at that age...", "Tbf, the show aired for several seasons. That means *somebody* was watching it. I don’t know who, but there must be people out there who actually enjoyed it.", "[Original](https://www.tiktok.com/@mrsjessjacks/video/6917751011876621573).", "Getting some major Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra vibes from the way she talks.", "Never seen top gun?", "It'll never be the last time. I'm in my thirties and my mom still calls me by my brothers' name sometimes.", "yeah growing up it used to be when she was really mad at me she would call me by brothers' names before getting it right lol", "Tha God", "Haha I bet people don't like you at all", "Oh yes, the famous Queen of the Franks.", "It took me about thirty years to be able to tell my twin cousins apart. Now I know it by sight and mannerisms and personality. But if they tried hard to fool me, they absolutely could.", "“Who are you again?”", "9.1 million people on any given night apparently https://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/two-and-a-half-men-season-12-ratings-34549/", "It's a prank. The context of the video is the dad calls them by the wrong name on purpose to see how they react.", "[Charlie and Harper are Tomorrows Girls.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55JSwCOUg68)", "And the next morning you wake up in a nursing home and the staff won’t let you leave.", "Charlie bit my finger!", "I'll take that bet, how much money are you willing to lose?", "You're such an idiot you don't even get the joke smh", "Some people are so far behind, they actually think they're leading", "So I'll just explain it for you since I am an educator and that's kinda my role in life or whatever\n\nThe first thing you said was that you bet the girls in that guy's story don't like him. I joked that it's ridiculous to assume you know something like that based on one small story. You must have went back to the comment because you replied to me, even though I didn't say anything to you. But you defended yourself saying my comment was hyperbole (it was, that was pretty obviously my intention though). So then I repeated what you originally said, that I bet people don't like you at all, trying to highlight how ridiculous it is for me to think that. I mean I've talked to you one time, I have no idea how people feel about you. But then you actually seriously tried to challenge what was a complete joke.\n\nI hope you understand now", "Thanks teach, now let me explain two jokes to you. \nMe \"taking the bet\" was a joke as well. But you didn't get it and said that i didn't get the joke, which is why I replied with that quote. \nYou are so far behind (not getting my joke) that you thought you were leading (ridiculing me for not getting your joke). \nNow you've fallen even further behind, but I'll gladly help you catch up." ]
114
videos
Father gets corrected by his twin daughter when he mistakes one for the other.
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/r92e6z/deleted_by_user/
/r/videos/comments/r92e6z/deleted_by_user/
[ "Lol", "It's quarantine, not prison. It's been the norm for hundreds of years.\n\nSuck it up if you want to travel and wait a few days to ensure you're not infectious you whingers.", "Wish more countries would’ve done this from the beginning. We’d probably be in a Covid free world by now." ]
3
videos
[deleted by user]
https://youtu.be/ZagrO1C8UUY
/r/videos/comments/r92hj4/the_best_of_monkman/
[ "Has nothing on Brandon though", "I don't get the joke.", "Steven?" ]
3
videos
The Best of MONKMAN
https://youtu.be/I8y2Uw7zFgw
/r/videos/comments/r92see/gordon_ramsay_kicks_youtube_out_of_hells_kitchen/
[ "I got banned from r/youtube for posting this.", "Probably because r/YouTube is for discussing the platform, not for promotion.", "What does that mean by promotion? This video was made to criticize the platform’s current status, so I felt it was appropriate share it on a subbreddit that was also criticizing youtube. And why would a subbreddit about youtube not allow youtube videos? And with no warning none the less?", "Read rule 3 of their sub. Sharing a video that isn't depicting a bug or a video directly from YouTube themselves, it's considered promotion and not allowed." ]
4
videos
Gordon Ramsay kicks Youtube out of Hell's Kitchen!
https://youtu.be/BbXJ3_AQE_o
/r/videos/comments/r93ku5/spiderman_across_the_spiderverse_part_one_first/
[ "So glad they're making another one, visuals alone were well worth the price of admission for the first one.", "Another two, apparently.", "What if Tobey and Andrew show up for this movie instead of No Way Home", "I want Miles to show up in No Way Home and the rest of the spider-verse", "just watched into again today and cant wait for this", "He's already been teased, but with Holland having 3 more movies to be made, It'll be quite some time before we get an MCU Miles.", "i'm sorry did that just PART ONE!?! I\"M HYPED ALREADY!!! And with the returning cast!!", "Joel Jameson: \"Hey Peter, do you think you can get me pictures of Naked Spiderman???\" | \n\nPeter: \"?!......no I can't do that\" | \n\nJoel Jameson: \"Oh, alright. Well the bounty is 500$\" | \n\nPeter: \"500?\" | \n\nJoel Jameson: \"Yeah\" | \n\nthe next day:\n\nhttps://i.imgur.com/6q6kR2u.png", "Spider-Product #32768", "Ok I'm fucking hyped. Definitely hitting up the IMAX for this", "i love the way gwen rolls out the window\n\nthey changed her shoes though", "i hope everyone already has their copy of ASM 365 and 2099 issue 1", "Is it part of the MCU if it’s produced by Sony and not Disney? Maybe I’m Wong in thinking they are separate with some crossovers", "He has a bunch of junk in his room plus an empty drawer that his junk fits in. Maybe that drawer is a portal to a bigger drawer.", "Hi, Wong. Loved you in Shang Chi.", "Usually I am not the biggest fan of splitting movies unless its absolutley necessary, but with how well the first one was crafted both from the animation to the writing, I am willing to believe that they wouldnt do it without thinking its in favor of the story they wanna do.", "Miles looks older in this than the last one. Looks like there will be some sort time jump between this and last film. (Despite the fact the first actually ends with Gwen reaping and there was no time jump then)", "At the end of the first movie Miles was in his dorm room while he was talking to Gwen. Since he's in his family's apartment here it's not the same scene. Gwen has also been growing her hair back out since the last one. It looks like it happens a year or two after the first one.", "i know it is just a first look but it looks super chop-y and the mouth animations don't sync up.\nI hope the end product is way better than this because i really liked into the spiderverse .", "Animations in the first one changed framerate as Miles progressed in the movie.", "Its got that beat from the show i think? https://youtu.be/MzLflJhtGFs", "I didn't notice but I watched at home on a 30hz TV. Can you give more details?", "?", "11 seconds in. Sounds like its in the trailer", "Google \"the making of Into the spider verse\"", "Basically miles is animated at a lower framerate at the start and as he progresses as Spiderman, the frame rate similarly increases. Pretty cool detail.", "My boy Miguel is gonna be in this one? Hell yes!", "Sequel to probably the best animated movie, definitely the best superhero movie of all time\n\nCan’t wait. If it’s half as good as Into, it will still be incredible" ]
29
videos
SPIDER-MAN: ACROSS THE SPIDER-VERSE (PART ONE) – First Look
https://youtu.be/3g246c6Bv58
/r/videos/comments/r93tyl/why_is_blue_so_rare_in_nature/
[ "Eiffel 65 took it all", "As someone with deep blue eyes I agree.", "Da ba dee da ba die", "Does a pigment \"make blue\" differently, if so how?", "Giant Indian squirrels are can be pretty blue" ]
5
videos
Why Is Blue So Rare In Nature?
https://youtu.be/I9QRxyTTdhg?t=313
/r/videos/comments/r93ym4/master_ken_teaches_gun_self_defense/
[ "best way to defend against a knife attack:\n\nget the fuck out of there, jesus christ", "I don't know. The butt clench technique seemed solid", "I've been in like six knife fights. I always grab the blade with both palms and rotate my arms. This makes the the attacker go to his knees. Then in one motion do an upward motion, the blade will go in the air. Catch it and decapitate the attacker.", "master ken himself!", "Why is everyone laughing? I'm taking notes.", "Almost as good as Rex Kwon Do", "Bow to your sensei!", "Well it sure made me solid!", "this guys is awesome. his timing and delivery, perfection", "Freedom thrusting… the female attacker ran right off", "Knife defense was a winner.\n\nDefinitely going to use the butt clench technique next time.", "Very effective techniques", "Step 1. Move to a different developed western country. \n\nStep 2. Never have to think about guns again, unless part of a sport you’re into.", "Or when you have to defend against someone wielding a banana or another type of fruit.", "Ha. Yes that is a huge problem. Kiwi assaults.", "Don't forget to discombobulate.", "Is that Jocko Willink in the background? He looks barely amused", "Jocko has resting intense face.", "A local karate teacher who does self defense classes has a \"sixty second gun defense lesson\" in which a student points a (toy) gun at him and he takes out his wallet and hands it to the student.", "This guy fucks." ]
20
videos
Master Ken teaches gun self defense
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/r94n1d/deleted_by_user/
/r/videos/comments/r94n1d/deleted_by_user/
[ "I was confused for a minute. And I speak Spanish.", "Painal. Nice", "Gooooal, goooal, goooal, goooal,", "I don't speak Spanish but I think they are making up Mexican names for the players? So it's fake? Did they call one guy Salamanca?", "I believe they took a soccer match audio and mashed it up with a hockey game video.", "TIL they call the puck a “ball” in Spanish", "Ah ok that makes sense, they just lined up the \"penalty\" and the \"goal\" bits", "Just about.", "Spanish names. Mexican is a nationality, not a language.", "No, they call it a puck as well, although more commonly a disco (disc), and I'm sure other names in different regions. This video takes audio from what I assume it's a football (soccer) match and they synced the audio for the \"penal\" (penalty) and \"gol\" (goal).", "Oh whoosh", "Lol", "Yeah. Which is funny because it was unnecessary work. some nhl teams simulcast some or all of their games with Spanish announcers.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/1s53eS2HFrk\n\nhttps://youtu.be/BVwjqUJQ484\n\nhttps://youtu.be/RJUCHSj6jHM", "[That reminds me of the time they wanted to decide which is the greatest nation on earth, Mexico or Portugal!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSHoMQFtEVc)", "I’m a baseball guy, so I didn’t even know NHL simulcasts in Spanish." ]
15
videos
[deleted by user]
https://youtu.be/eWqWl5Nh04k
/r/videos/comments/r94yko/82_shot_badminton_rally/
[ "I did 83.", "It's called a volley.", "sports", "So tennis is absolutely the best singles racket sport, but badminton doubles is *insane*.\n\nPlayed that shit in college and it's so much fun but also so ridiculous hard lol.", "We knowb", "What is?", "Wrong. A volley is a single hit without hitting the ground. A rally is a series of single hits without hitting the ground.", "I'm curious - what makes you say you prefer tennis singles?" ]
8
videos
82 shot Badminton rally
https://youtu.be/kljtVtXIBrQ
/r/videos/comments/r95l7l/mosquito_reflects_on_his_life_and_proceeds_to/
[ "booooooring", "I’d like some commentary lol", "The end of the line.", "Do a flip motherfucker!", "Trigger warning?", "That felt good to watch.", "If only more of its ilk would follow suit :,(", "Only for pussies", "Excellent music choice. I almost felt bad for the mosquito.", "Put it in B&W and you have an art film about the futility of life in modern society.", "Good, fuck mosquitos.", "haha the fucking slow motion", "Jesus, that's a big mosquito.", "I feel sad for the mosquito", "I've never seen a mosquito crawl. They usually just land and fuck shit up. Did this pos have its wings removed? Either way, great ending. Fuck mozzies", "His life really sucked, so it is understandable. \n\nRIP in Peace.", "I watched the whole thing because I needed to see it die", "Love that snap!", "For all you mosquitos out there: \n\nThe National Suicide ~~Prevention~~ Encouragement Hotline is: 800-273-8255 \nAnd don't forget to fill out your organ donor card, in case someone needs that leg.", "heheh", "The futurama suicide booths were a great idea", "lmaooo", "How do you know it's a male mosquito?", ">mozzies\n\nSpot the Aussie lol", "My favorite comment: \"I hope all mosquitoes see this and imitate it. It's good to see the attitude of sacrificing yourself to make mankind happy. Especially in the part where the limbs were torn, I was so moved that tears came out...\"", "I hope he burns in hell.", "I can smell this video", "Please mark NSFW", "/r/2meirl4meirl", "Werner Herzog please.", "If you enjoyed this you may also enjoy [exploding wasps](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezwq4Y4umX8).", "you where the chosen one!", "*Enya plays*", "Must have been some bad blood", "When your whole life sucks….", "Ausquito", "‘Brooks was here’", "Bookmarked to 1:10 https://youtu.be/kljtVtXIBrQ?t=70", "It's a UK slang too :)", "It really captures the \"Oh god, what have I done in the past? Let me pay the ultimate price for my sins.\" <bzzzzt>", "Because female mosquitoes tend to take a handful of pills.", "I am reaching, but I fall…\n\nAnd the stars are black and cold…\n\nAs I stare into the void…\n\nOf a world that cannot hold…", "Those bug zapper tennis racquets are awesome. I have one that takes 2 d cell batteries. Bugs explode on contact.", "/r/donthelpjustfilm/", "I hate mosquitoes but why does this still feel so morbid lol", "Hey cool, it's another bot that copies comments from lower in the thread and reposts them in response to the top comment. This one is slightly more advanced, only copying part of the original comment, but it's the same shit.", "Because it is. OP most likely captured the mosquito, ripped its wings off so it couldn't fly away, placed a death trap next to it and waited for it to climb I to the trap and kill itself. Then he packaged to video and plastered it on the internet with a shitty title for fake internet points. \n\nI also hate mosquitos. But videos like this are fucked. Like...'sociopath acting out a fantasy' kinda thing.", "Damn, when you put it that way, it is pretty fucked up...", "If all mosquitoes went extinct, it wouldn't bother me, but this had me feeling bad for the mosquito.", "That mosquito got busy dying.", "https://youtu.be/ztn5nzB4II8", "if it call that number, it's Brundlefly", "Hell yeah. Love the music. I could watch this all day.", "Mibbit, mibbit do a barrel roll!", "Hey it’s another annoyed human that is typing a comment because of a “bot.”", "Checked his comment history and you are 100% correct.", "*her life\n\nPretty sure that's a female. They are the ones that bite because they need the blood meal to make eggs.\n\nMale mosquitos are smaller and have bushy antennae that help them find females. They don't bite.", "I feel ya, brother.", "There's a bogey on my six!", "Bruh", "\"NOW I KNOW WHY YOU CRY\"", "I absolutely love using those handheld bug zappers to fry mosquitos. It's such a satisfying sound.", "Hey, most people don't realize its a bot and then even upvote them. Better people know. The more people reporting it as spam the better.", "I can smell the burn from here", "Stare too long into the abyss - and the abyss stares into you.", "What is this device?", "Mosquitos in my world means wandering into a foggy boreal forest and seeing clouds of these things, each no larger than a grain of sand. I forget there are places elsewhere where they get way too fucking big.", "Bug zapper racket.", "As someone who gets ravaged by mosquitoes, this video gave me much pleasure", "Umami", "Who dat?", "I cri ervr tiem :(", "‘FRYING TONIGHT !’", "Mosquitoes are parasites that prey on the unsuspecting. They spread pain, misery, and disease. They are a scourge to the planet. They must be eradicated for the greater good. This mosquito is self realized. Possiblity a reincarnated human even. Regardless, this mosquito is a fucking hero. I wish I was there to give it the hero's memorial / burial it deserves.", "Barrel roll", "I wish the video ended with the word FIN", "Thanks, you had the same read as me on the situation. Glad to know I'm not alone.", "It seemed to be already dying, it fell off the electric tennis racket at one point.", "So sad\n\nAlexa play Despacito", "Her*", "Rest in pieces.", "*her", "WHY WON'T ANYONE THINK OF THE LARVAE?", "MeIRL", "The duality of Mosquito", "Actually since this one has a proboscis I'm pretty sure it's actually a she. Only the bitches drink blood.", "The YouTube comments are pretty solid.", "Rest in pepperoni peace?", "A very good cause, thanks for sharing. $2 is on the way.", "Those devices work by generating a strong electrostatic charge... I suspect the mosquito was \"stuck\" there by the static electricity and couldn't fly away or escape", "\"am I the baddie?\"", "Never seen a mosquito explode before.", "Mosquito reflects on **her** life and proceeds to commit suicide. \n\nLittle mosquitos like that are female, they are also the only ones that bite. Male mosquitos are much bigger and don’t bite.", "He couldn't cope with his problems.", "Peace is too good for mosquitoes.", "It should have been some triumphant music in the background imo.", "I never empathized with a mosquito before.", "On the other hand...\n\nWhat if we genetically engineered Mosquitos and somehow used them to vaccinate the population against various viruses? Or deliver proteins/vitamins that somehow make people smarter/healthier/happier etc?\n\nIt feels like Mosquitos could potentially be one of the most useful tools ever, we just haven't figured out how to use them yet. Why do they have to deliver exclusively negative stuff to blood streams?\n\nProbably not remotely possible with current tech, and maybe stupid in general, just spitballing...", "I'll escape now from that world\n\nFrom the world of Malathion\n\nThere is no where I can turn\n\nThere is no way to go -- *zap*", "This is the most sympathetic I've ever been of a mosquito", "Just like *Marley & Me*", "That would surely only ever be used for good!", "I think you should make a really confident post on Facebook about it and let it fly", "You monster", "aaaw he is a welder now", "I love the melancholy of it all", "> A Chad\n\niseewhatyoudidthere.jpg", "\"No little buddie, you are the worstie.\"", "This is how a good music score can really make a film", "I've lost myself my urge to fly\n\nI sit and wonder about days gone by.\n\nWhen from the corner eyes I've seen\n\nA shiny metal trampoline.", "Zapped is “A tour de force with heartfelt performances.”\n\n- Ebert and Roeper", "I cried", "I fucking hate mosquitos.", "I love how humans think everything is for them to use. Lol", "He was a good mosquito 😔", "What a great piece of cinema.", "Werner Herzog should be narrating this.\n\nThis mosquito will not go to the feeding grounds upon the skin of humans, nor will he return to his family. This mosquito walks towards certain death at the hands of a bug zapper. The mosquito reflects upon its life choices. Catching him and bringing him back to his family will make no difference – he’ll simply turn around and head again for the bug zapper. WHY?", ">almost\n\nKey word", "Take my upvote and leave", "Good riddance", "Well SHE (mosquitoes that size are girls) had to sit there and think on how she was railed by all the little Chad mosquitoes while she was in mosquito college. She missed them all so much she committed electric suttee and leaped onto the third rail.", "It's what's for dinner.", "well my grandfather used to tell me all these little facts he had learned in his life.\n\nsome of them were anecdotal as hell (e.g. the only substance that solidifies in heat is egg white) and obviously wrong.\n\nBut one i had accepted without a second thought and i had never even considered could be wrong, is that “mosquitos don’t walk”.\n\nAnd to be honest, until this video, i don’t think i’ve ever seen one walking until this video.\n\nThis was one of the last facts to still stand.", "Good riddance.\n\nThe only genocide I would ever support.", "Hilarious how the comment section is just people discussing about its gender", "Her. ...Reflects on her life...", "I’m glad I’m not the only one", "He said $20, you god-damned Chad! \n\nIm obviously joking, and its commendable that you would donate at all. Good work, its because of people like you that the entire world isnt just a shithole of misery.", "\\*her", "Should have ended with the \"WASTED\" logo from GTA.", "What is the song?", "I got matches with these songs:\n\n• **Beginning of the End** by KyZmA (00:11; matched: `100%`)\n\n• **Argonne** by Hectorino Martinez (00:11; matched: `100%`)\n\n• **Capítulo 10.2 & Capítulo 11.1 - 8** by Vinícius Léscio (00:11; matched: `100%`)\n\n• **Scatter If You Can Understand Me** by Jincheng Zhang (00:23; matched: `100%`)", "Links to the streaming platforms:\n\n\n\n• [**Beginning of the End** by KyZmA](https://lis.tn/weQloM?t=11)\n\n• [**Argonne** by Hectorino Martinez](https://lis.tn/Argonne?t=11)\n\n• [**Capítulo 10.2 & Capítulo 11.1 - 8** by Vinícius Léscio](https://lis.tn/AfXDd?t=11)\n\n• [**Scatter If You Can Understand Me** by Jincheng Zhang](https://lis.tn/rRkfs?t=23)\n\n*I am a bot and this action was performed automatically* | [GitHub](https://github.com/AudDMusic/RedditBot) [^(new issue)](https://github.com/AudDMusic/RedditBot/issues/new) | [Donate](https://www.reddit.com/r/AudD/comments/nua48w/please_consider_donating_and_making_the_bot_happy/) ^(Please consider supporting me on Patreon. Music recognition costs a lot)", "Era la manera de terminar su vida del chupe...", "Mosquito: shouldn’t have shorted the GME stonks…should not have done that", "I didn't enjoy that thank you.\n\nEdit: did, sorry did. I very much did!", "I liked the part where it got zapped", "Holidays can be sad for some", "Why was that so\nDamn satisfying?", "Mosquito Bro: I'm wondering, if there's more to life, then I think about it, and all I do is suck, I suck suck suck, its terrible. I tried to get a leg up in life, maybe turn the corner, but here I am, still just sucking.\n\nFuck it, Yolo bitches", "This is a bugs interpretation of you getting your college loan bill and realizing that its pointless.", "Is this the real life?", "LOL, amazing patience to get this video. My first snuff film. :D", "Me too mosquito. Me too", "Yo the Cannes finally got something good!", "Zap zap at [1:05](https://youtu.be/kljtVtXIBrQ?t=65).", "How do you attract mosquitoes to the bug zapper?", "I can smell the burnt-hair odor from right here.", "Did it get vaporized at the end?", "Very cool! Just donated. Thank you for sharing", "RIP IN PEACE", "break the racquet off and keep the two leads in the handle...makes a super fun little hand held tazer... Add 4 red necks and a 48 of Keystone, friendships will be made and broken.", "and just like that….it was over for Ted.", "Rest in pepperoni in peace*", "And if you hate mosquitos as *personally* as I do. Go buy one of these electric rackets on amazon and have a fucking blast when the skeeters are about.", "It might be very old", "Fuck the tiger mosquitos", "That video was 11x longer than it needed to be.", "Males don't suck blood, only the female mosquitoes do.", "I actually setup my [https://smile.amazon.com/](https://smile.amazon.com/) to Against Malaria (Amazon Smile takes like 0.5% of your purchase and donates it to the charity of your choosing). You can use extensions to redirect your browser (on desktop or mobile) to Amazon Smile (you don't get the credit if you're not on the Smile site, but it looks exactly the same as the normal site). I've generated over $80 to them through Smile and after setup, it takes absolutely no effort", "The tennis raquet version of these are amazing.", "Good mosquito", "Doesn't like everywhere that speaks English call them that? \n\n\nExcept Yanks, I bet they either say, \"Skeetas\" (South), or \"Sucky-Hurty Bug\" (rest of US).", "So it goes.", "https://imgur.com/Yv09n5Y.jpg you have inspired me by flattery, well done", "Merry Christmas, man. God bless. 👍", "fucking no. just. ugh. fuck you", "I feel like moonlight sonata would of been a better choice", "There aren't many charities I actually donate to, but this is a worthy one." ]
170
videos
Mosquito reflects on his life and proceeds to commit suicide
https://youtu.be/LGJ6TvKDlvI
/r/videos/comments/r967ff/no_video_today/
[ "I swear, I don't know how Dunkey does it. He is just a master a shitposting. For over a decade the dude has been king shitposter.", "I told him he wouldn’t do it!", "No fucks given in this non video", "This was a great mealtime non-video/ audiobook/ erotica", "Came here right after watching with this exact thought. Dunkey is on another level of content. Like a higher plane of youtube. I couldn't shake the feeling during this video that dunkey could be such a huge force in maintstream entertainment if he chose to do so, but i'm so glad he chose to just make the content that interests him personally. Not sure why I came here to ramble but what amazing content. Just happy to be here.", "This was a great demonstration of how far Closed Captioning has come along.", "I really didn’t expect it to end up as a story about how a guy named Bill and DK’s cousin go into the future to obtain the recipe for Cheetos from a band of pirates and a Sith Lord.", "I mean, he kind of is mainstream entertainment isn't he? Youtube content has been completely normalized by this point and he's by far the biggest gaming oriented content creator. Every single video he has made in probably the past 10 years has gotten to the front page of reddit. What more could you do to make it \"mainstream\"?\n\nEDIT: Alright fine *one of* the biggest. My point is he basically is \"mainstream\".", "I guess i'm thinking like.. creator of the simpsons or something. Having writers and illustrators working under you and all that.", "The music, ambience, voices, and foley work is amazing. \n I can see everything in my mind.", "I feel like dunkey is one of the last bastions of original YouTube. Everything thing is so corporatised and produced that it is nice to have some quality content in the mix.", "> he's by far the biggest gaming oriented content creator\n\nNot even remotely close. Dunkey is very popular, but there are countless gaming channels with more viewers.", "This is better than most movies that came out this year", "Put some respect on his name, its Darth Galactus Prime, thank you very much", "Autobiographies wish they could be this interesting. At least this keeps your attention and isn't filled with worthless information about minutia no one cares about to turn a Wikipedia article in to a 500+ page novel that feels like it moves slower than the subject's life.", "There should be a prize pool for whoever can accurately guess the next dunkey video.", "> he's by far the biggest gaming oriented content creator\n\nPewDiePie is still active, is he not? Dunkey may make a loooot of memes with his videos, but he's in the middle when it comes to the actual size of his channel.", "It's the redditor curse of believing everything that happens on reddit is something everyone in the world knows.", "Donkey Kong.", "There are still lots of great smaller channels (<100k subs oftentimes) making good content on youtube, its just an absolute pain on the ass to find them because the algorithm doesn't tend to favor good content at all.", "I checked and man you are not kidding...damn, I'm incredibly impressed", "Nah Dunkey's just another corporate sellout. I miss the old Dunkey days when he really put his heart into Among Us Tuesdays and Thursdays and Drama Mondays.\n\n(In all seriousness yeah Dunkey has remained my favorite YouTuber for years now, and every time it seems like he's losing steam for a bit he picks it right back up soon after).", "The Dunkey Creed origins: IGN 8/10. Too much erotica not enough subnautica", "He doesn't even come close to the likes of Markiplier or Dream (both shit).\n\nBut yeah Dunkey is one of my favorite youtubers, he's so authentic and original.", "This will go down in history as one of the greatest dunkey videos of all time.", "He won’t", "And he wasn't a Sith Lord. He was a Sith Jedi. He probably put a lot of effort into earning that title and this random redditor is just besmirching his name.", "Internet Comment Etiquette keeps putting out absolute gold, as well", "So true! He has sold out his channel to big goblin recently. It was heartbreaking to see one of my beloved content creators become a shill for actual goblins.", "Why would he when dislikes don't exist 🙃", "They've been pretty good for a few years now. I remember when they were so bad it was hilarious. Though captions in other languages than English ain't so good though.", "Donkey Kong December\n\nDonkey Kong December\n\nDonkey Kong December\n\nDonkey Kong December\n\nDonkey Kong December\n\nDonkey Kong December\n\nDonkey Kong December\n\nDonkey Kong December", "He still has his heart and soul in it, but not on the main channel anymore. You've gotta go to Dunk Tank where he has that arthouse gnome content.", "He gonna do it everyday", "Beeg.\n\nYoshi.", "Dude what are you talking about? Dunkey is a household name at this point, my 85 year old grandmother knows about him. I call him the Drake of youtube because of this.", "Say I won’t do it\n\nSay I won’t do it\n\nSay I won’t do it\n\nImma do it every day", "Can someone please... please animate this.", "He's the boss of us now 😔", "Bro. Don't disrespect my boy like that. He's more OG than original YouTube. Mans is an OG newgrounds animator. This crazy fuck was around before the times of strawberry clock.", "Yeah if you like to curate your personality around prewritten knowyourmeme articles.", "When in reality no one knows any of these people and think you're a retarded freak for asking who Drake is.", "It's funny we both independently used Drake as the counterexample here lol", "PewDiePie could be inactive for at least a few years and still easily be top content creator", "the next day: I'm done makin donkey kong videos", "In a world where this prize exists, there exists a tertiary prize for the person who both accurately guessed the next dunkey video AND accurately guessed the next veggie tales inspired Kanye West song", "Unfortunately [dunk tank](https://youtu.be/2eKHvtTWjV4) has also succumbed to the pressure of spooky goblin content. He starts off as skeptical but I think this was the beginning of his slow descent into goblinification. Sad to see.", "Yeah but even many, if not all, of these small channels feature promos, sponsored segments, or merch shout outs. Nothing against at all, in fact I'm happy for them making an income doing something they love, but it just adds to the feeling of content being more produced and corporatised", "December 25th\n\n3 1/2 hour Donkey Kong yule log", "Only 3 1/2hr? Need a 10hr version.", "It also helps that Dunkey speaks quite clearly. In videos with accents or mumbling it can get pretty bad.", "who hurt you", "Thats missing the point, if dunk wanted to \"make it\" in the normal entertainment industry he would never show them this video-less meme video. My entire point is i'm happy he's making content as original and against the grain as this. Justin Roiland, matt Groening, Seth Rogan, Trey Parker and Matt Stone, ALL made more crazy and unhinged content before their respective hits. You kinda missed my entire point.", "Yeah, usually it diesnt do well at transcripting black guys, but in Dunky's case they seem to have figured it out.", "I mean... dunky is a relatively small YT creator, my Mom knows who drake is. Not really any kind of comparison.", "may i offer you some lage chips", "you missed it" ]
56
videos
no video today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9MdDll-9ow&ab_channel=ZaktsuFire
/r/videos/comments/r977gm/8_punches_per_second/
[ "Hahahaha that’s hilarious", "\"punches\"", "Me fighting while sleeping", "Seizure lol", "Watch out while he taps your chin four times he also taps your clavicle...", "Start at 1:20\n\nhttps://youtu.be/YAdAPAGIztg", "https://c.tenor.com/MqoiqFi3Cu8AAAAM/kermit-mad.gif", "I watched him on forged in fire last night. Probably a rerun but I'm sure it is him.", "8 very useless punches per second.", "is this a joke?", "Sick, a mentally ill guy having a seizure. Take your meds dude.", "Well if this is a punch. I can do about 20 per second.", "I wouldn't say that where he could hear you... I hear this guy can punch 8 times in a single second.", "E Honda hasn’t been the same since Covid.", "Handy if you have an urgent appointment elsewhere but would still like to get twatted.", "Meth. Not even once." ]
16
videos
8 punches per second
https://youtu.be/_X5BovDw1mw
/r/videos/comments/r992y4/tribal_people_react_to_abby_the_spoon_lady/
[ "\"Tribal People\"", "Seriously what the fuck is wrong with people? Can we stop bashing different cultures for once? Fuck whoever labeled them as “tribal” people.", "Yeah, that would be the producer, whom I believe is from there. Kinda messed up that you think that people can't or don't live in a society where they identify with a certain tribe. You do realize that being part of a tribe is still an option. Technically I could claim the Cherokee as my tribe, as I am registered. \n\nEither way, it's probably more of an issue of finding an accurate descriptor that translates. You may find this channel offensive, but they are doing a lot of good for their community, not to mention humanizing people from other cultures to dumb ass westerners who think that them identifying with their traditional family groups and ties is somehow offensive." ]
3
videos
Tribal People React to Abby The Spoon Lady
https://youtu.be/fAfmUmLH4bo
/r/videos/comments/r99fmg/does_anyone_remember_these_weird_bud_ice/
[ "Yeah, def remember these... I sometimes sing \"doo be do be dooo\" to myself", "Johnny Knoxville there", "I don’t but thanks for posting it, love the commercials", "I tried bud once here in nz. Tasted awful. Not the worst I have had but would not try again", "My brother and I were obsessed with them as kids.", "Same!", "My grandma would sing \"dooby dooby doo\" randomly while cooking or cleaning since these commercials were first on the air until she died. I can't help but hear that in my head and smile any time I think of these.", "Glad you have a good memory tied to them as well" ]
8
videos
Does anyone remember these weird Bud Ice commercials?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pD-f45TbvEw
/r/videos/comments/r99jm9/best_ad_for_wearing_a_helmet/
[ "I laugh at this, shake my head thinking about all the people that do dangerous activities without wearing a helmet and then go ride a bike without wearing one.", "How is this the \"best\" ad for wearing a helmet? If he can't even walk a horse without hitting his head he shouldn't be on one.", "The best helmet ad is the \"I love helmets\" skateboard guy.", "Asperger syndrome > understanding jokes", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9yL5usLFgY", "I love the “I can’t really hear you” bit.", "Lost a friend this year to not wearing a helmet while skateboarding. He was 22", "Amazing commercial.", "Yes. I'm saying I'm stupid for not wearing one.", "I’m not trying to argue with you dude I’m just adding on to what you’re saying. I’m not responsible or support your downvotes", "Oh, I didn't even notice the votes. Just wanted to clarify :)", "I gotchu man, I hope you wear a helmet tho!!", "Or maybe, Erve was making a low key funny and you missed it.", "If you enjoy this kind of comedy and haven't seen it, Norsemen is a pretty good comedy about vikings in a similar style to this ad. Here's a clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd-J5n7wk7E", "The best humor is when you have to explain the joke.", "One of those ads I will not skip if I come across it.", "I was working at a lumber mill and a helmet saved my life. I bent over to pick up a trim end of a 2x4 when I was knocked to the ground by a piece of wood coming down the slide. Hit me so hard that I got knocked to the ground. Wear your safety gear folks. It saves lives.", "Thank you for this. I've been after something new to watch.", "That's why I even where condoms when I pee.", "Dude...", "Naahh, too low to be low key.." ]
21
videos
Best Ad for Wearing a Helmet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMejQs5Q5_4
/r/videos/comments/r99qtg/recut_modern_terminator_2_trailer_that_doesnt/
[ "I'm sure this will get all the kids to the theater and they'll be happily surprised! Yay!", "I made my girlfriend watch Terminator 2 with me today (we watched the first one a few weeks ago) and she said she didn't expect Arnie to turn out to be the good guy. I told her that her experience of that twist is something very few people had the chance to experience because the promotional material at the time spoiled the twist.\n\nI then hopped on Reddit to read what other people thought about the movie and found this trailer that someone cut last month and thought it was really cool.", "Thanks!", "People retrospectively like to say that the trailers ruined the twist in T2 but from an in-universe point of view it doesn't make much sense to make it such a big deal.\n\nThe audience watching could reasonably think that the T-1000 is the good guy. Kind of the protector role filled by Kyle Reece in the first film. This is because they've seen Schwarzenegger as the bad guy in the first film. But this is John Connor's story and John is the first main character to encounter him, in the [galleria scene](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhL8WlDHKaY). John has no reason to recognise him and his most likely reaction to seeing the terminator pointing a shotgun at him would be confusion. He's grateful to him for saving him from the T-1000 who just tried to kill him.\n\nThe only thing that is a big deal in this regard is Sarah Connor's first encounter with the terminator during [her escape](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTCEWAraUzI). She absolutely recognises The Terminator and is so traumatised that she runs back towards the abusive workers of the asylum she has been so desperate to escape for the last six years. This scene is so powerful precisely because the audience knows what's going on. You are forced to empathise with Sarah based on what you know about what she knows. *The audience* knows that Sarah is no longer in danger, but they also know that Sarah doesn't know that. This is great storytelling.\n\nThe main theme of T2 is the idea that the future is not set. Unlike the fatalistic ideas of The Terminator (1984), T2 is about optimism and self-determination. At the start of the film the premise is that they must save John so that he can lead the rebellion. The big twist (at least for me) is the moment that John, Sarah, Dyson and the terminator realise they can work together to stop Judgement Day happening. The moment when [Sarah Connor realises what she has become and breaks down](https://youtu.be/VduTNiOXpik?t=125) is heart breaking, because we empathise with the trauma she has been through that has led her to that point. This leads into the 3rd act where the goal is no longer to protect John, but to stop Judgement Day.\n\nI used to think that it was a shame they spoiled this twist. But now I realise that to hide the T-1000 in the trailers and make Arnie Is The Good Guy a big secret would have been nothing more than a gimmick that would have overshadowed the entire marketing campaign.\n\nBy the way, this is why T3 is such an abomination. The fact that T3 changed the rules and made Judgement Day \"inevitable\" is one of the greatest cinematic travesties ever permitted. F**k Terminator 3!", "No T-1000 tho?", "Ironic that this comment spoils the twist", "I watched T2 as a kid before watching T1 only a couple of years ago so I had the twist in reverse. I only remembered the terminator as a good guy. Didn’t expect terminator to be the antagonist", "It's kind of amazing that the studio spoiled it because the director and editor clearly set it up to be a twist. We never see the T1000 kill anyone or do anything necessarily bad until the meeting with him, Arnie, and John at the mall.\n\nThe closest exception is when [he kills the police officer at the beginning](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HuPANafBQ4) - but if you think he's human, and thus unarmed, then you'd assume he just knocked that officer out.\n\nThe idea of watching the whole movie up to the mall scene and then, at that moment realizing, \"wait, Arnie is *protecting* John??\" must be such a treat.\n\nThe studio might be incompetent, to have allowed the spoiler. But my guess is that they figured fewer people would watch what appeared to be the same exact movie a second time. Also, they probably knew that everyone was going to be talking about the tech and spoiling it anyway.", "There were no unfunny quips or jokes in places there shouldn't be, so it wasn't cut in the modern era.", "Plus, the difference in the introductions to the T-900 in both films make its role as antagonist/protagonist fairly clear. \n\nIn the first film he literally punches into a guy's stomach. In the sequel he burns a guy on a stove, throws another guy through a window and then gives an \"Arnie look\" when his sunglasses get knocked sideways. It's a \"twist\" only if you're not paying attention.", "They really didn't set it up as much of a twist. They didn't flat out say that arnie was good and robert patrick was bad, but the music alone spells it out. Arnies entrance is halfway to comedy, whereas they're playing the 'evil terminator music' for patrick.", ">The only thing that is a big deal in this regard is Sarah Connor's first encounter with the terminator during her escape. She absolutely recognises The Terminator and is so traumatised that she runs back towards the abusive workers of the asylum she has been so desperate to escape for the last six years. This scene is so powerful precisely because the audience knows what's going on. You are forced to empathise with Sarah based on what you know about what she knows. The audience knows that Sarah is no longer in danger, but they also know that Sarah doesn't know that. This is great storytelling.\n\nThat is a phenomenal scene.\n\nAlso, arnie throws the black guy into the window so hard he turns white.", "> The audience watching could reasonably think that the T-1000 is the good guy. Kind of the protector role filled by Kyle Reece in the first film. This is because they've seen Schwarzenegger as the bad guy in the first film. But this is John Connor's story and John is the first main character to encounter him, in the galleria scene. John has no reason to recognise him and his most likely reaction to seeing the terminator pointing a shotgun at him would be confusion. He's grateful to him for saving him from the T-1000 who just tried to kill him.\n\n\nHe thought the T-1000 was an asshole cop not a cyborg from the future, and at that point he had not tried to kill him, just arrest him. John may recognise Arnold from descriptions or drawings by his mother.\n\n\nFor the audience I think it might be a bit up in the air. They've seen the character arrive from the future and disable a cop (it's not clear if he's been killed) and take his clothes and car, and act kind of inhuman/cold/not how you would expect a protagonist to act. On the other hand Arnold fight a bunch of bikers toward the same end but he does it cool and funny way and clearly does not kill any of them.", "They've left out the single biggest reason anyone had to bother to watch the Terminator sequel in the first place (in 1991): the T-1000 and the special effects that went along with it. It would be like doing a trailer for Aliens, but not showing the space marines. They've taken away everything that made the sequel interesting for an uninitiated audience. This trailer makes the film look like just a re-hash of the first movie; for some reason, with a kid.\n\nAnd that may be why they felt the need to \"spoil\" the film in the trailer in the first place. If T-900 is a bad guy but you *also* have the much more dangerous T-1000 *also* hunting down someone, then why is the T-900 in the film to begin with (from an audience standpoint)? If, on the other hand, you have the bad-ass T-900 from the first film **fighting** an even badder-ass T-1000 in the second film, you've given the audience something more to watch.", "I was lucky enough to see it in theaters before I had paid attention to any of the commercials. I knew that Arnold was the terminator, and not much else. That was a great movie.", "A trailer without the main bad guy in it tho? That's kinda weird, I get what you're saying but the trailer needs to represent what the movie is going to be about. Is this another movie where Sarah runs away from Arnie trying to kill her again? That sounds like a shit sequel and the trailer might have been met with complete dissapointment. Since I've seen both movies, I still enjoyed this trailer that you created anyway. But as a means to sell the movie, not so much.", "Arnie being a good guy and T-1000 being a bad guy based on their introductions were intentionally ambiguous. Yes, Arnie didn’t kill the bikers, but he was still clearly robotic and lacked emotion. T-1000 showed emotion and even a little charisma. Look at the scene where he talks to John’s [foster parents](https://youtu.be/mPAIbs8q-EY) and asks for his picture. He commented that he’s a “good looking boy,” and shows emotion in his facial expressions. Clearly he’s the more human of the two. Unsuspecting audiences would likely believe that he’s human, and based off their experiences in the first film, the good guy. \n\nThe ultimate reveal in the back hallway of the [galleria](https://youtu.be/bhL8WlDHKaY) showed John pinned between two people both after him. Arnie pulls out a shotgun well before T-1000 draws a weapon. The scene is made to make John and the audience think that the shotgun was for John. T-1000 then pulls out the handgun, presumably to protect John. Then the big reveal happens and John is saved by Arnie. \n\nIt’s easy to go back and see the subtle breadcrumbs spoiling the reveal, but I believe everything was intentional. It was well crafted to lead unsuspecting, passive audiences to assume Arnie was the bad guy again, while rewarding more active-thinking viewers who noticed some subtle nuances. \n\nThe trailer completely undermines James Cameron’s brilliant cinematography, regardless of whether or not you were capable of suspecting the twist on your own or not.", "Like I needed more reasons to watch this movie again", "It’s not a twist if it’s in the first act; it’s the premise,", "This was great. I'd love to see an ominous shot of T-1000 liquid re-forming into a person or some kind of shot so we are like \"Ok, now what the fuck is THAT?!\"", "I saw T2 before T1 and I was only in 3rd grade (at an older neighbor’s house - my parents didn’t know). No twist for me because I barely knew what the hell was happening :(", "Not for most of the 1st movie.\n\nVasquez in Aliens, however, would do so without question.", "T-900 is the predecessor to the T-X (T3 lady Terminator) and was in, like, the T3 games and a split second cameo in T3. T-800 is Arnie.\n\nAlso, showing the T-1000 in the trailer, especially as a Terminator, would spoil a first time watcher who would otherwise assume the T-1000 was the Resistance human sent back to protect John. You don't see him do any liquid tomfoolery for a while in the beginning. The encounter in the back hallway in the mall between Terminators is the first time you see liquid metal anything which is at the 32 minute mark.", "this trailer suks", "[Original trailer for comparison](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRRlbK5w8AE)", "That was the sell back then. People were losing their minds to see this showdown between two Terminators. Losing the twist was worth it. The hype was crazy, and the payoff better than we could imagine.", "> showing the T-1000 in the trailer, especially as a Terminator, would spoil \n\nIt's not a spoiler, it's the central plot of the movie. Does it spoil anything to know Indiana Jones is looking for the lost ark of the covenant?\n\n>a first time watcher who would otherwise assume the T-1000 was the Resistance human sent back to protect John\n\nWhich is the issue: it would just appear to be a retread of the first one ergo: no reason to watch it.\n\n>You don't see him do any liquid tomfoolery for a while in the beginning.\n\nYou did in the commercials.\n\n>The encounter in the back hallway in the mall between Terminators is the first time you see liquid metal anything which is at the 32 minute mark.\n\nWhich is what everyone was waiting for.", "That was my experience too!", "I had just seen Terminator and met up with a bunch of friends to watch part 2. I was pretty excited about seeing scary Arnold again but my one buddy told everyone the plot twist during the opening scene. I still hate that guy.", "Easily one of my biggest cinematic disappointments was not being able to see T2 completely blind. By the time I was able to see it not only were their commercials and stuff but it was common knowledge in the cultural zeitgeist that he was a good guy. Wish I could have experienced that badass twist.", "That's actually a pretty cool trailer, spoiling the twist notwithstanding.", "It's a hell of a \"reveal of the premise\" the audience was deprived of due to the marketing spoiling it.", "It’s the marketing’s job to sell the movie, which usually includes sharing the premise.", "I think they could have avoided that by having a scene where the evil terminator is mimicking Arnold then changes shape and show that in the trailer. People would assume that there's one terminator that looks like the one from the first but can change shape. Scenes showing the cop as the terminator would be assumed to be Arnold disguised as a police officer.", "For those that were alive back then, it was actually pretty common knowledge that Arnie was playing the “good guy” this time. He talked about it in interviews in such. \n\nThis was also a time when you couldn’t just stream trailers on demand, repeatedly, as much as you want. So you would see a trailer once, and barely remember it by the time you see the film.", "Yep. Aside from the fact that it was common knowledge back then, it happens within the first 15 minutes of the movie.\n\nI know the general attitude on Reddit is that it is better to go in completely blind, and there is nothing wrong with that. But I also think you need to at least be able to give a basic premise and some set up when you’re explaining it to someone.\n\nPeople in /r/movies used to get mad when you reveal a plot point from literally the first five minutes of Tucker and Dale Versus Evil.", "It was revealed long before that. I was alive back then. It was very common knowledge that Arnie was playing the good guy this time. He’ll, I never saw this trailer back in the day, but I knew about the twist.", "Yeah it's the central conceit of the movie.", "I'm so glad I came to the two movies after their initial release but before the days of YouTube. Literally completely blind before both movies. All I knew about them was Arnie's \"I'll be back\" which became a common quote.", "I dunno man, the way the film is shot it's clearly intended to have you not know Arnold is the good guy this time until it happens 32 minutes in. If they weren't confident an Arnold movie would sell at that point in his career and felt it necessary to leak \"cool liquid metal terminator\" shit in previews to draw an audience, that's kinda fucking insane to me. We're talking 1991 Schwarzenegger. If the trailers hadn't ruined the twist it would have been a borderline \"No, I am your father\" moment. Word of mouth would have gotten even the most hesitant person to go see T2.", "I can't believe they've skipped minigun scene.. like it would be perfect for this", "> It was revealed long before that.\n\n\nIts revealed in the movie before the shootout scene. In the first movie the terminator would kill anyone who got in his way. In the sequel Arnie terminator doesn't kill anyone in the bar scene. The T1000 doesn't kill anyone on screen either, we just assumed he killed that first police officer off screen. Then Arnie Terminator comes out of the bar and it plays Bad to the Bone. Its not obvious but the signs are there something is off.", "God I would have loved to see a movie like this today without knowing the twist.", ">the way the film is shot it's clearly intended to have you not know Arnold is the good guy this time until it happens 32 minutes in.\n\nI disagree. I think the scene in the biker bar definitely portrays that something is different this time around. In the first movie, Arnold straight up kills the people he gets his clothes from. In this one, there's a bar fight where no one dies, and then it ends with Arnold putting on sunglasses as \"Bad to the Bone\" starts playing. Even Arnold taking the gun and sunglasses from the bar owner is funny. The Terminator-vision moments also come across as lighthearted, with the audience getting to see Arnold sizing up everyone in the bar looking for a match. He's still an ominous figure, for sure, but the tone goes against how villains are typically set up in their introductory scene.", "I don't know why this keeps coming up again and again, but the first trailer (and teaser trailer) did not spoil the twist that Arnold was the \"good guy\" in T2.\n\nThis is the (often overlooked and hard to find) first theatrical trailer for Terminator 2: Judgement Day:\n\n[Terminator 2: Judgment Day Theatrical Trailer #1](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qI3PUT5a5I)\n\nThat trailer hints at the twist, but does not give it away, especially in context of what audiences would have been aware of back then. That was the first full trailer audiences saw.\n\nThe \"Same Make. Same Model. New Mission.\" trailer that everyone seems to think was the first full trailer (after the teaser trailer) did not appear until after the film had opened:\n\n[Terminator 2: Judgment Day Theatrical Trailer #2](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1mF_hX8hT4)\n\nThat second trailer was what the film studio would have referred to as part of the \"second wave\" of advertising -- revealing more details to continue to try to generate interest in audiences that have not seen the film yet. Later trailers gave away even more of the plot/details. That's pretty common in film advertising.", "Without \"the twist\" or showing of the other terminator, you basically get a trailer that says \"hey it's the exact same movie again with no change\". \n \nThis trailer would have been 10x better if at the end near the fade to black it showed the new terminator either with his blade-arm thing or going through the fence as a \"what the fuck\" end to the teaser.", "I liked it a lot. I think you could have added one more thing without spoiling the movie, but also teasing something anomalous and crazy. A quick cut at the end of the T-1000 getting messed up and quickly healing. Without spoiling who injured him. Like maybe when he Wags his finger \"no\".\nEdit: phone.", "People weren't obsessed by spoilers at the time, they didn't think spoilers ruined the fun (at least in most cases).", "Excellent example of Eisenstein Rhythmic Montage. Makes me want to watch the movie, again.", "Matters which generation of Tomb Raider. The original was a psychopath like Drake from Uncharted and would just shoot you in-between running away from Dinosaurs and Atlantian horrors.", "Here's a fun thought experiment! Let's assume that this was the genuine direction for the marketing and T2 was coming out in today's era. The ultimate irony is that people would throw a shit fit insisting they had been lied to. Imagine it! Everyone talking about how they wanted to see Arnie kicking ass and murdering people, only for him to become a good guy and a brand new Terminator we hadn't even heard about was the true villain. I can see all the ranting video essays on YouTube about it now...", "Thanks for sharing! Here is a low budget version of the movie for your enjoyment. https://youtu.be/4mTCgIHpQXE", "Hey man,\n\n I'm the guy who made this trailer, I just want to say thanks for sharing, your post got more attention than my original post haha. I'm really happy to see that some appreciate the purpose of the trailer. I get other peoples opinions of not having the T-1000 in it but i wanted to see if it was indeed possible to cut together an alternative, blood pumping, action packed, thrill ride without revealing what many people believed (myself included) was a heavily spoiled plot twist. \n\nMy focus was to be more Sarah specific with the narrative and show her struggles as a mother and the pressure on her shoulders knowing what she knows. \n\nI'ts good to see some healthy debate on here.\n\nCheers dude.", "The T-1000 is the twist, this trailer tries to hide. One is led to believe the T-800 is the same evil robot he was in Terminator.", "It's not really a twist though, it's the premise.", "Yeah, it's not a twist or a spoiler that Arnie's a goodie in this one. It's the reason to see the film, and it's established at the start.", "Awesome! How did you find this post anyhow? It's not like it's top on /r/videos or anything... is it?", "Funny enough it's relatively high on the \"Hot Post\" page but I found it through my youtube analytics. I noticed a massive boost in traffic and was curious to know where it came from and that lead me to your post. 👍", "This is *really* well done. You ought to be proud of your effort.\n\nToo many movies give away their twist or gimmick in the trailer thinking that's the only way to draw in viewers, but you've proven that's not necessary.", "lol", "Thank you for the explanation!", "That's very kind of you bud, thank you. Yeh, I'm super pleased with how it came out especially after weeks of working on it and figuring out how I wanted to construct the narrative (which was a real challenge).. I totally agree with you, that was certainly my main motivation for doing this. Again, thank you.", "There’s no fate but what we make for ourselves!!", "The fact the Robert Patrick isn't in the trailer makes it suck, also you wouldn't get away with one of the main stars not being in the trailer.", "I mean, to snub Robert Patrick would never fly. I feel like the end could have added some cool mystery by introducing the t-1000 in just a SFX shot.", "Indeed. And the marketing's job and the storytellers intentions don't always align. \n\nI'm not saying the marketing folks did a bad job or even a bad thing. They did their job.\n\nStill a particularly unfortunate thing for the audience that were deprived of that moment of reveal. \n\nI'm incredibly envious of anyone unfamiliar with the franchise who might still experience this movie with that reveal and all.", "Wow, that trailer was phenomenal. Really wish this person had been around to make it back in 1991.", "Yep, your girlfriend is definitely one of the lucky ones.", "My god, that scene is so great. How he touches the car and monitor briefly before he fully understands how they work.", "Knowing that the T1000 is a spoiler, but it doesn't really ruin the enjoyment of a movie at all.\n\nPlus they had to include it in the marketing because it was such a special effects masterpiece.", "It would have been chef kiss if those last 10 secs after the title had either the T-1000 walking through the bars or reforming from a puddle. Just a little stinger of wtf is that.", "Would have been a good teaser for a later trailer.\n\nSide question: Does anyone know when they first started doing teaser trailers? Used to be the trailer was the teaser; now there are teasers for the \"teaser!\"", "Definitely well done! I thoroughly enjoyed it.\n\nThinking about a way to feature Robert Patrick in such a trailer without spoiling the twist I wonder how possible it would be to depict him as almost a stand-in for Kyle Reese... a few clips of him actually smiling and being nice, maybe a few shots of him shooting a gun all serious. The viewer could maybe be led to assume he's a human cop who understands what John and Sarah are (supposedly) up against and is helping against all odds.", "damn that sound is so bad lol. But one of the greatest action movies of all time", "They fly now!", "Well shit, time to watch T2 again.", "This trailer is substantially better than the original in every way. Incredible job!" ]
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Recut Modern Terminator 2 Trailer That Doesn't Spoil The Twist
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/r99y9g/deleted_by_user/
/r/videos/comments/r99y9g/deleted_by_user/
[ "I think I spotted the move of the tuck after the swap, would look better if it was a more uniform motion than an abrupt tuck into sleeve.", "There is no sleeving involved.", "Hard to trust a professional deceiver.\n\n:25 is highly sus", "Then use your common sense and notice the sleeves of the jacket , and check if it possible to sleeve with those. :)", "No, i agree with u/feyyd, whatever's going on at 0:25, even if it's not \"sleeving\", looks intentional and draws a lot of attention (i picked up on it as well, before reading his comment). \nIt's that thing of, *even if it's not sleeving*, it **looks** like it thus making me think it is thus ruining the illusion a bit.\n\nIt is still impressive though.", "Burn the witch.", "Common sense tells me the move looks sus as fuck. I'm not a magician, but I try to figure this stuff out, and to me it looks like a mucked sleeve or a palming technique that needs a lot of work.\n\nIf its not, I just recommend working on it looking more natural. I'm not sure what you are even talking about common sense on sleeving, you can shove anything in any hole/slot, so I think my common sense was pretty spot on.\n\nRegardless, I'm not trying to bully or put you down, I was really just trying to give a helpful criticism and tell you what I'm seeing (as an unbiased observer)" ]
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[deleted by user]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zs3GnztANQs
/r/videos/comments/r9ad8g/conan_andy_quiz_a_spelling_bee_champion/
[ "Spell \"Black Widow\" .", "Itsy bitsy Scarlett climbed up the waterspout", "She wound up joining Sheild" ]
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Conan & Andy Quiz A Spelling Bee Champion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xioltukoby4
/r/videos/comments/r9bedn/carnyjared_hit_313_words_per_minute_on_a_guitar/
[ "Lame AF", "That was cracked", "I wouldn’t count those as words.", "this makes me wonder what else can be done with guitar hero controllers", "its just for jokes lol", "This guy probably makes smoke when he jacks off.", "If ur looking for content just look up frif, legokeegan411 or Jared's channel on yt. Total mindfuck how they do this stuff", "Oh. That's not impressive." ]
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CarnyJared hit 313 Words Per Minute on a Guitar Hero controller
https://youtube.com/watch?v=UlRNyiMFTsw&feature=share
/r/videos/comments/r9bnrr/high_unemployment_rate_linked_to_one_man_with/
[ "Jim is running for mayor of my city. He's also running against himself \nand putting out political ads on his TV station against himself. He's \ncurrently suing himself for defamation of character.", "Is he acting as his own lawyer?", "Expensive strategy", "And his name is Johnny sins", "I don't understand this one. Is this satirizing something in particular, or is it just silliness?", "Yes", "So he's homer simson?", "climate change i believe", "High unemployment rate actually just a statistical error.\n\nJobs Georg, who lives in cave and has 10,000 jobs is an outlier and should not have been counted.", "Mr Benn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqHsAr3HUpU", "No, but he is the judge assigned to his case.", "Just in time for jury duty", "Can be very lucrative tho", "Yes, _lawyers_. He is also the judge in the case. And although he has rejected himself as a juror seventeen times, he still managed to fill all the jury positions with himself. He will also do the transcripts and just recently he was hired as a courtroom guard.", "The names uncle ruckus, no relation.", "Just today I found three more jobs during my lunch hour.", "My immediate thought was that they are making fun of how (un)employment rates are calculated... And suggesting they are wrong... \n\nI have absolutely no idea how they are calculated, but the bit makes me believe that they are calculated by looking at the number of how many there is who _can_ work and the number of job positions filled. \n\nThus, if someone works more than one job the unemployment rate would be wrong", "42,000 jobs? Johnny sins is that you?", "Ryan Seacrest has a few words to say.", "Turns out the unemployment rate isn't actually high. Johnny is an outlier with 42000 jobs and should not have been counted", "Generally unemployment numbers are counted by the number of people who are out of work, are able to be hired, and are actively seeking employment. The last part is critical as it neglects those who, for any number of reasons, have not sought out a job in the previous four weeks.\n\nPretty sure the joke in the video is the idea that there's just one single source of the problem, whereas in reality it's clearly a complex combination of factors.", "I thought it was a Johnny Sins reference at first.", "If he loses, he's also the executioner", "So Johnny is the real richest guy in the world I guess.", "So maybe the criticism is that not everyone files for or is eligible for unemployment income, or uses the unemployment office to seek a new job, and so unemployment would be undercounted?", "That too. Actual unemployment rates are always higher than what's reported. Always.", "Fairly sure that's just Roger", "Here's been the big problem this year. Say you've got 1m jobs. 700k of them are manufacturing, 200k of them are retail, and 100k of them are office. Now, you also have 1m unemployed people. But only 400k of them are capable of operating a forklift or have set foot in a factory. 400k of them only have retail experience. And 200k of them want office jobs. \n\nAt the end of the day you have 400k jobs that aren't going to get filled and as many workers still looking, even though you started with the same number of jobs and people. It takes time for people to retrain themselves, if that's the only option.", "idk, apparently.", "It does make sense considering homer has done basically every job.", "The middle one is surprising to most people too. If it takes too long to find a job, you are not considered unemployed any more.", "That's not my understanding. If you are consistently looking for work, you are still considered unemployed under the U-3 definition no matter how long it takes.", "It's just a silly skit, no satire or criticism here.", "Johnny Sins kinda let himself go", "Kirk! There is already an uber! Stop making that sound!", "Usually those cases are lucky to break even", "Everyone here expected to see *another* man", "Other versions of unemployment reported by BLS, such as the U6, account for these things.\n\nThey almost always trend in the same direction with a DC shift. Since we usually just care about the trend and what the measured level is for full employment (also not literally unemployment = 0) spending a lot of time worrying that you're getting the DC exactly correct is kind of pointless. \n\nConsistency is much more important.", "Some people don't need a job. Should a farmer who is self-sufficient be considered unemployed? If you count all the people who don't have a traditional job you'd get an unemployment rate of over 20-30% which are of no use to anyone. If I'm looking for a place to build a factory, I need to know how many people are actively looking for work in that area. It's irrelevant to know the real unemployment rate of 30% if all of them are farmers who will never work in my factory. I'd rather know about the 3-4% who might be interested in working in a factory.", "Gucci mane said, “I go to court so much, I could’ve been my own employer.”", "Only 42,000 mon? Hod on, I ned to go to my job", "It's about drive🚙 It's about power😈 We stay hungry🔥 We devour😤 Put in the work💪 Put in the hours🕛 And take what's ours🥶", "Yes, but only as the defendant's lawyer", "that man is everywhere..my lord he’s a priest too", "Yeah, if you aren't disabled and unable to work, actively seeking a job keeps you counted even if you are unemployed for years. You aren't considered unable to be hired just because no one actually employs you soon enough.", "Selfish", "Reminder: the economic goal of full employment is not 100% employment, but rather 3 to 4% of unemployment.", "Perhaps most surprisingly, he's also the courtroom sketch artist.", "More notably, he's the judge and 11 of the jurors in the case.", "There are different measures that are reported, but typically when people say “unemployment rate” they’re talking about U-3, which is what the poster described above. And it isn’t a conspiracy to make things look better than they are. Defining unemployment as Number of Working Age Adults Without Jobs / Number of Working Age Adult overlooks the fact that some people choose to not be part of the labor force or cannot be, such as stay-at-home parents, retirees, people with disabilities, etc. There is the U-4 which adds in discouraged workers who want to be part of the labor force but have stopped looking for jobs, but that may be a separate policy solution to getting the workers who are looking for jobs into a position. They’re all posted by the BLS.\n\nhttps://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t15.htm", "Rise and grind", "We must clone him to usher in a new golden age.", "That guy is a collective hive mind controlling many bodies.", "Care to explain some of the initialisms for those of us out of the loop? DC is hard to parse, even when searching with context words.", "> Should a farmer who is self-sufficient be considered unemployed? \n\nSelf employed =/= unemployed.", "Looks like hard times for Jason Statham", "Suckcess!", "It doesnt help that getting jobs has become so needlessly complicated as HR people make busywork for themselves. I was contacted about a position a few years ago. They wanted me to do all this extra crap. Im like, here is my Resume and I will come in for an interview. But Im fully employed, Im not desperate. Im not jumping through all your stupid hoops. You called me.", "If you are out of unemployment benefits and you stop using the state resources to job hunt you kind of disappear from the statistics from my understanding. Like if you are just sitting at home filling out resumes, they arent gonna know to count you.", "I thought this was going to use someone who has done a ton of stock photo shoots, like Harold.", "BLS: Bureau of Labor Statistics\n\nU-6: \"True\" unemployment, AKA all working aged people able to work who are not working. Different from U-3, as it counts those \"marginally attached to the labor force\". U-3 doesn't count able people who aren't actively seeking employment.\n\nDC: I don't know what that commenter means by that. Like I said I'm not an economics guy.", "[5 jobs!](https://youtu.be/Opq8YCkFV9s)", "But can he be the undertaker?", "You're more well versed in economics than AOC lol", "I was disappointed it wasn’t actually him in the thumbnail.", "He’s also Judge Judy and Executioner", "I really miss when the onion put in more effort than some slide shows 😔", "[The only man who could match him.](https://keepmeme.com/meme/20211018/johnny-sins-many-jobs-meme-doctor-teacher-cop-firefighter-astronaut-army.jpg)", "He needs those jobs to pay his monthly rent", "/montypythonvoice", "Any chance he is an MP as well? (Of course he is)", "Godamn Jim took my job as a muskrat tamer for underprivileged CEOs. I’m sick of this shit.", "Looked far too long for this comment. It was the first thing I thought if too.", "Saw the bald head, immediately assumed this was a doc on Johnny Sins, the most multi-talented man on this planet", "If only he could put aside his other jobs and focus on his art.", "The bastard didn't make it to my company on Friday though and I had to cover for my and his tasks though. He claimed his flight was delayed!\n\nThere should be a cap on the number of jobs a person can hold, at a time of 41,999.", "He is not. Only because he is acting as his own attorney and can't hold himself to privilege representing himself twice.", "The structure of the joke is great, the guy having hundreds of thousands of mortgages to pay was a nice twist, but having him be the camera guy really put a ribbon on the joke.", "Yeah, not sure whether they meant there are all kind of open positions in the market and unemployed people are lazy, or some people have to work multiple jobs to gain a liveable wage, or ...etc\n\nIf he is finding 3 different jobs at launch hour, and he is calculated 3 times in the unemployment rate, he effectively reduced by 3 considering he was calculated multiple times in the fulfilled jobs rate.", "If the court allows it, but since he'll also be the judge, it's very likely.", "In the film they will undoubtedly make about this yes", "Did anyone else expect him to ALSO be the manager?", "adn", "Sorry, physicist by training. Stands for Direct Current. A better term would have been baseline, as in a baseline shift.\n\nMost experiments have an arbitrary offset", "An anus Georg reference?!?! Thanks it’s been awhile", "They? Why would he need more people involved?", "I thought it would be Jhonny Sins", "I was 100% expecting this twist. The most successful man in the world, he's a doctor, lawyer, astronaut, fireman, policeman, pizza guy, etc. He can do anything", "White version of Uncle Ruckus.", "I thought it was a poignant and thoughtful reflection on the American condition.\n\n4.5/5 stars", "Would it pass if I said I didn't know their pronouns?", "You should have seen him at the UFC heavyweight finals. He was fighting himself, the ref, and the announcer.", "Keep the money moving! In a circle!", "... Anus...? I thought the original was Spider Georg", "My life is a lie!", "Kirk from Gilmore girls", "Well I mean, spiders Gerog has got to have some extra pipes down there to handle the amount of spiders he eats every day.", "People are thinking too hard about this. It's just funny. In real life there's all this buzz about unemployment and the numbers related to it. So the joke is just what if the cause for the unemployment was the dumbest, silliest thing possible.", "Reaganomics Lamborghini!!!!", "Still not enough to pay for rent 😭", "I know a man like this, he has many jobs....", "No joke.. my partner has applied for well over 200 jobs in the last year, and still cannot find a job. She’s accepted a pay cut, looked in other fields and even applied for seasonal retail work. She has two masters, a fantastic resume, is hard working, intelligent and wants to work. She more than not doesn’t even get an interview. When she does.. she loses to in house promotions. \n\nThere are people who WANT to work, but cannot find any. Granted she could probably get a job in fast food, but that would be humiliating for someone who has taught children, worked in administration, on chambers of commerce etc etc. \n\nWe don’t often talk enough about the quality of jobs people offer/look for…", "Maybe it's mocking people who say \"I don't know how people are struggling to find a job, I have 3 jobs and they weren't hard for me to get cause I'm a hard worker\"?", "Got to look at the date on this one, it was from 2011. It was the end of the great recession. We never recovered from the .com bubble burst of 2000 and then housing bubble crashed. We were undergoing a non-recovery \"recovery.\"\n\nJobs were hard to find, but people were also pushing that the economy was good and getting better. This was mocking all the positive economic talk. People were being told jobs were coming back but in reality most people couldn't find one.", "Ah OK. I think this is what I was thinking of, I just read through the definition and apparently you are still counted as unemployed even if you exceed the timeline for benefits. But the state has to be aware of your search and with no monetary benefit I can see why people would stop reporting it.", "poor man's johnny sins", "All rise, Honorable Judge Jim presiding!", "Johnny Sins?", "It’s a bold strategy cotton, let’s see if it plays out for ‘em", "May i ask you what she has masters degrees in?", "That would imply that you didn't watch the video. So I guess on reddit that's the perfect excuse", "The only person with more jobs than Johnny Sins is Barbie", "… wouldn’t that lower the unemployment rate?", "Oh so he is salaried \n\nGot it", "Chris Pratt", "My husband’s friend had a wedding where they had little glasses and mustache on sticks to take funny pics (and hearts and shit) \n\nSo all I could think of is finishing a press conference. Slinking under the podium and coming back up with one of those.", "Unemployment", "when can we expect his memecoin to be released ?", "is that johnny sins?", "I heard he found himself a wealthy backer who identifies with his cause", "Dammit Jim! I'm a doctor and a scientist and an engineer and a captain and a bartender and a diplomat and a ... librarian ... lawyer ... zoologist ... xylophonist ...", "[Just a surgeon? he don't do nothin else? I got TWO jobs!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVKBwVOBOh8)", "bruh\n\nalso username checks out", "Who are you? Myles Barlow?", "Sounds like it may be public policy related stuff. If so, I can confirm that job market is way oversaturated.", "yeah, but he's also the prosecution, and the judge, and 4 of the jurors", "The pilot was delayed due to his diplomatic mission not going as well as he had hoped.", "With luck, he'll be able to get on the housing ladder in another 15 years.", "It's a hard time for him, and he's lucky to have the support of a good wife; also himself.", "Pretty sure it's satirizing my dad.", "Do I look like I know statistics?", "Hell yeah! You can charge whatever you want! A million dollars per hour? No sweat.", "“But I bend, don’t break; I don’t ask I take”\n\n-gucci mane", "nohomo", "This isn’t too far off from “real” news…..", "I'm thinking you didn't mean to say Judge Judy but this visual is hilarious", "Hot Fuzz", "Jim is called nepotism", "All the Jims gets up.", "Actually it's Uncle Ruckus. No relation.", "Could also be Ricky Spanish.", "^Ricky ^^Spanishhhhh", "Keep up the good work jim", "Do you just have random stupid thoughts and feel an urge to share them?", "Not a single Miss Rabbit (from Peppa Pig) reference on the whole thread?!", "Jim's doing things backwards. First Jim creates the corporation, then Jim takes 42,000 jobs, then Jim takes loans against them and systematically files for bankruptcy at them, one by one. Probably end up with a solid profitable company doing it too, cause I mean like it's Jim, he's got a reputation.", "\\-OG Loc", "All the numbers are reported under BLS, including labor participation rate. \n\nonly clueless idiots who are brainwashed by social media or partisan news/blogs keep repeating this garbage and other clueless idiots upvote this as though it is true", "Technically it wouldn't affect unemployment rates, because it's calculated as the number of area residents without a job and looking for work divided by the total number of area residents in the labor force.", "Keep up the good work Jim!", "Holy shit, I just looked that up. Holy hell, maybe the funniest ~~Family guy~~ american dad clip.\n\n[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPJhhM4Mzf4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPJhhM4Mzf4)\n\nsorry for the spud qual vid.", "The video is from 2012. It's possible that jobs were actually hard to find back then.", "Jorbs Jorg", "You so lazy!", "Smart orgs don't do that. Plenty of dumb ones still do, though.", "A ~~great man~~ reggae lyric once said:\n\nMan who cannot find work, must make work.\n\nI'm guessing your friend is overqualified? Anyway, what I'm suggesting is that instead of finding a job, your friend might consider the wonderful world of self-employment. \n\nConsidering she has been able to go a year without a job, the first few months of not making much money while getting her new profession figured out should be doable.", "Not with over two hundred thousand mortgages, he's not! He may just be the most indebted man in the world!", "Fair enough! He's a true madman!", "Not if you're also the judge on the case. I, for one, welcome our new overlord, Jim.", "And don't forget his job as lead role in the early 90's blockbuster \"The Cabin Boy\".", "As an Australian, I'm upset that this video was not in relation to \"Jim's _____\" that we have down here. \n\nhttps://jims.net/services/ \n\nDude literally has 53 different franchises under his business. \n\nJim knows everything.", "Haha, Gary!", "Little disappointed it's not Fred Flintstone.", "Unemployment numbers aren't miscalculated. People overly focus on the unemployment rate while not reporting or discussing other employment metrics.", "I dont understand why Ken doesn't work", "I thought it was gonna be a joke about stock photo models and I'm kind of sad it wasn't.", "Now I wanna see this deep-faked with Johnny Sin's face and see his reaction.", "Shark mindset", "AOC claimed unemployment was low due to people holding multiple jobs, sorry you were unaware of her stupidity.", "I've seen the headline for this video for a long time but only watched it now. I always assumed the joke was going to be about a guy who is in thousands of stock photos like [Harold](https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/hide-the-pain-harold). Now that it's not that, I'm kind of confused as well.", "Time to get two jobs.", "You just want a picture of a god dang hot dog?", ">the first few months of not making much money while getting her new profession figured out should be doable.\n\nEven after factoring in the fact that as a self-employed individual you have to pay for health insurance yourself? The only way I would is if OP's partner could could massage the numbers enough for said first few months or couple years to qualify for Medicaid in her state.", "Because Barbie has had 100s of careers, guy doesn't need to work.", "Is this a joke?", "Genuinely don’t know who this is", "For a moment i thought it was mah man Johnny Sins.", ">Came here looking for this\n\nSo you only come for Johnny Sins?", "Fuck The Onion", "It's true, I pay this man for handjobs.", "I thought it was gonna be Uncle Ruckus.", "Barbie can't keep a job, Ken better have a steady source of income.", "No ones paying 270,000 mortages on only 42,000 jobs.", "The hardest working West Indian family from In Living Color is still not impressed.", "There might be something she's doing wrong, maybe lack of experience or her interviews fall flat. My partner got 4 jobs offers just last month, granted she didn't have anything lined up during covid until now so she was very discouraged. The economy is getting better, business are opening back up and they're looking for people. Keep telling her not to give and see what she might need to improve on. There is literally a shortage of workers in almost every industry right now.", "I wonder what would happen if the next president started putting out adverts showing himself running against himself just for the lols while drawing in people from both sides.\n\nHave a president candidate that tries to run for both republican and democrats so either way they win. \n\nEDIT: Just Googled this and it's called Electoral fusion where both parties put forward the same person which is legal. Now what's stopping the next president from just running as both parties independently", "Yes, the Onion is a spoof website.", "So does the Hey Mon family from In Living Color", "> no satire or criticism here\n\n\"... he has 270,000 mortgages to pay\".", "I miss the ticker text", "Dude, it's just a funny joke. It's a ridiculous concept that brings some levity during a time (2011) when people were really struggling to get jobs.\n\nNot every piece of media has to have a bite to it or provide critical insight.", "Ah so the whole thing was rigged for Jim to win in the first place.", "r/unexpectedfallout", " I just looked that up.", "Barbie is a strong independent woman who don’t need no man to support her.", "Didn't realize this was from 2011 until this comment.", "Is he Australian?", "He's also the judge, jury, and executioner.", "Don't forget Mike Rowe", "This man gets Polywork.", "Stelio! Stelio Kantos!", "Why would he fight the ref and the announcer?", "Thought I was in the Gilmore Girls subreddit for a second.\n\nPleasesomeonegetmyjoke", "The name's Abbey. Abbey Road. And when it snows I need to be plowed.", "This guy actually works for me. Unfortunately his performance has suffered due to working other jobs. Probably gonna have to let him go, then use his numerous other positions within the company to absorb that role.", "r/antiwork", "Christ, that was years ago, and doesn't even make sense as a response to that comment. The comment makes the same statement.", "Or, just go without health insurance for a few months. Or, get a catastrophic plan.", "The video posted is from years ago, but you're right, AOC and the poster are morons.", "Ah shoot the answer was right in front of us this whole time.", "Maybe it's just me, but to me it says it all when a type of job is too humiliating for her since she's been doing this and that. I don't believe that any person applies for 200 jobs without getting any or goes on 200 dates without finding someone.. Then something else is wrong.", "This is American Dad, not Family Guy. It says so in the title of the video you linked.", "Eh, potato tomato.", "Ah yes Jobs Georg 🤣", "It’s called Hedging…but the H is silent", "Didn't see the word onion. Gotcha", "Reminds me of Larry from The Amazing World of Gumball", "It’s Mrs. Rabit IRL", "Even so, she is looking and hasn't found a job. This is happening all over the place. It's not that people don't want to work, it's that they can't find work.", "I sued jim for slighting against my company. And then hired jim to defend my company in said lawsuit. Was really surprised to find out jim was also the prosecutor. Strange trial indeed. But jim did a great job!", "He stopped working during covid and that's why there is such a job shortage suddenly.", "We got a straight killer here", "I would've bet a million dollars he was Jamaican.", "Considering how pricey US healthcare gets, going without health insurance for a few months is to be one accident or infection away from fucking up both your business and personal financial prospects for years. As for catastrophic plans, better than nothing in that such a serious accident/illness would probably only take one or two years to claw back from instead of 5 or more but I'd still suggest making sure you can account for things in such a way that you qualify for Medicaid rather than that.", "That's not how unemployment is counted. Unemployment is counted exactly as /u/AndChewBubblegum said - they count those people who are out of work, are able to be hired, and are actively seeking employment (specifically, via a survey). It has nothing to do with whether you're receiving unemployment benefits or the unemployment office - it's an internationally standardized measurement, so it can't be subject to individual nations' UI laws.", "That is incorrect. Unemployment benefits have no effect on the unemployment rate whatsoever. As long as you continue looking for work, you are counted as unemployed into eternity.", "As long as you are still looking for a job, you will be counted as unemployed, no matter how long you have been unemployed.\n\nThe time limit people usually refer to is for discouraged workers. If you stop looking for work because you are discouraged by economic conditions but say you still want a job, you are not counted in the usual unemployment rate but you are counted in the \"U4\" rate. However, if you still haven't looked for work even once in a year, you drop out of that rate as well.", "Yeah, actually, the video is ironically backwards from the current economic statistics, where the unemployment rate is very *low* despite fairly anemic job reports and fairly low overall employment numbers.", "The \"via survey\" bit was what I was missing. That would certainly seem to eliminate the biases I was concerned about in the reporting. This seems to give good detail about how it is measured in the US: https://www.bls.gov/cps/cps_htgm.htm", "Full employment means what it says - the goal is 100% employment. However, it's impossible that you can actually get to 100% employment, because people leave jobs and don't immediately get new ones, they graduate from college and are looking for jobs, they're on seasonal furlough from jobs, they may not actually *want* a new job but say they are looking for jobs for a variety of reasons, all sorts of other things. \n\nThis is called \"frictional unemployment\", and is always positive. There is no way to actually get to 0% unemployment.", "He’s stealing our jobs!!!", "She can't find work she wants to do. They are out there", "Homeless Barbie and Ken dolls, Barbie starts working the streets and Ken has to push drugs to keep afloat. Barbie doesn’t know that Ken broke the “don’t get high on your own supply” rule and is now hopelessly addicted", "Where are they getting that data though?", "They get the data through a large survey of about 60,000 households, called the CPS (Current Population Survey). You can find much more about the methodology [here](https://www.census.gov/programs-surveys/cps/technical-documentation/methodology.html).", "Do you like this bit from [The Simpsons?](https://youtu.be/Cqd-_fHdTyA)", "Given the subsidies, I would just go on the exchange. If income is near zero, most of the plan will be subsidized. If income rises, some will have to be paid back, but it isn't onerous.", "For this year and next year, while the temporary provision capping the amount you pay for a silver plan at 8.5% of income exists, yes. Beyond that, hope their business has taken off enough to afford more.", "Johnny sins?", "Jobs Georg is an outlier and should not have been counted", "If no one wants to do the job for which you're hiring for the amount you're hiring for, then that job isn't going to get done for that amount. The \"labor shortage\" is just companies pretending they don't have to bow to the forces of supply and demand." ]
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High Unemployment Rate Linked To One Man With 42,000 Jobs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezwq4Y4umX8
/r/videos/comments/r9c9go/wasp_explosions_at_5600_volts/
[ "Fuck wasps.", "So satisfying", "Wasps are really important parts of our ecosystem\n\nJust like bees, wasps are among the most ecologically important organisms for humanity: They pollinate our flowers and food crops. But beyond bees, wasps also regulate populations of crop pests such as caterpillars and whiteflies, contributing to global food security\n\nhttps://www.dw.com/en/good-bees-bad-wasps/a-45555518#:\\~:text=Just%20like%20bees%2C%20wasps%20are,contributing%20to%20global%20food%20security.", "This guy is part of big wasp.", "Waspes watch out fer that thing.", "So cruel ... I love it" ]
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Wasp explosions at 5600 Volts
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/r9cjsn/deleted_by_user/
/r/videos/comments/r9cjsn/deleted_by_user/
[ "its a fairly boring movie dont let this fool you", "Someone just need to make a supercut where the repeated scenes are removed (still keeping the ones with changes).\n\nThat would probably bring it under 2 hours.", ":)" ]
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[deleted by user]
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/r9dptk/deleted_by_user/
/r/videos/comments/r9dptk/deleted_by_user/
[ "Why do you waste my time with this nonsense", "That was… unspectacular.", "I made this with my son. Cool to read these comments to younger people. Cheer up or browse Tik Tok or smth.", ">unspectacular\n\n:\\]" ]
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[deleted by user]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtsglXhbxno
/r/videos/comments/r9e1on/linux_challenge_pt_3_this_is_finally_getting/
[ "Linux = communism\n\nMacbook ftw", "After 15 years of using Linux distros, sometimes some coworker will ask me to do something on Windows. I am just as clueless as they would be using my Linux setup. It has nothing do with how use friendly the OS is, just your familiarity with it.", "Although that's true, there are things that I just can't seem to do in Windows, so I'd still say Linux is more friendly. There are entire programs that you either can't disable or just can't change, whereas in Linux one can say it's difficult or that you need to know about software, but it's still possible to do.\n\nIn Windows it's built into their business model to try to make the user do certain things, or to just do those things regardless of what the user wants. So they have processes like their cortana application, various pop-up notifications, plus a whole range of GUI elements that you can't change because if you could it would be too easy to disable those other aspects of the operating system. In Linux there aren't those competing interests, so if there is anything you want to change, disable, or enable, there is a way to do it and you are free you to do it.", "Weird as fuck that a comment like this gets downvoted. The state of things these days" ]
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Linux Challenge Pt 3: This is FINALLY Getting Easier
https://youtu.be/XkuDgZrOPDE
/r/videos/comments/r9ensl/a_simple_solution_that_would_help_a_lot_of_teens/
[ "I'd love to see an actual paper on this.", "I am a high school teacher and I can remember multiple times this idea coming up and the argument against it is always that we will have to stay in school until 4 or 430 to compensate and that would drastically affect sports, clubs, and other extra curricular activities. Also a lot of teachers really like being done before or around 3. They consider it a perk of the job. I support later starts by the way. I just wanted to comment about why it is resisted in general.", "Schools don't start at 7:30 because someone thought that was the optimum time. They start at that time because schools are mostly daycare with education sprinkled in and the parents need to be at their work at 8:30-9ish.", "[The NHTSA gives very different numbers.](https://www.nhtsa.gov/risky-driving/drowsy-driving)\n\nYearly fatalities, 2018:\n\n* Alcohol: 10,710\n* Drowsiness: 785\n\nVideo: \"Drowsy driving kills more people on the road than either alcohol or drugs combined.\"\n\nSo the video is bullshit.", "I always thought that if school starts later, the students would just go to bed later as well.", "I am not confident in those data. Alcohol is easy to detect after the fact. How on earth can you determine whether someone was drowsy if the only evidence is the corpse?", "I'm a high school teacher in California. Our district implemented a later start time this school year. Although I agree that more sleep is better, the fact of the matter is kids just go to sleep later now, thus making the later start time ineffective. I have a few kids that habitually doze off in class twice a week. \n\nFrom what I've seen so far, kids are still sleep deprived whether its from going to bed later or just still arriving at school early (parents still have to go to work). Education is being impacted because sports and extracurricular activities haven't been shifted so kids now miss more classes if they have to leave for a game. In addition, some teachers just give massive amounts of homework (especially honors and AP classes) so students try to finish homework before sleeping. \n\nOverall, I don't think later start times have really changed anything. A lot more has to change if we want to actually see an improvement.", "Children aren't getting enough sleep. Period. In my neighborhood there are kids that are at the bus stop at 5:30am because the bus has to drive crazy routes to pick up kids. We have bussing to even schools out with racial and financial issues in mind, but it really can create a hardship for the child. They may have a school a block away, but they might have to go to a school 45 minutes away. I really want the type of equality they're going for, but not this way.\n\nAnyway, so SUPER early for some kids.", ">I am not confident in those data\n\nThen provide better data.", "Moving the start of the day forward doesn't work because people will just go to bed later. Source: Started working from home, my sleep pattern shifted 2 hours later.", "The burden isn't on me, but I'll humor you because even brief internet research provides better info than what is offered here. A study by The AAA Foundation between 2009-2013 found that the government numbers (1-3%) captured only a fraction of actual drowsy driving incidents: \n\n\n>Results showed that an estimated 6% of all crashes in which a vehicle was towed from the scene, 7% of crashes in which a person received treatment for injuries sustained in the crash, 13% of crashes in which a person was hospitalized, and 21% of crashes in which a person was killed involved a drowsy driver. If these proportions are applied to all reported crashes nationwide, results suggest that an average of 328,000 crashes annually, including 109,000 crashes that result in injuries and 6,400 fatal crashes, involve a drowsy driver.\n\n**Source:** Prevalence of Motor Vehicle Crashes Involving Drowsy Drivers, United States, 2009 – 2013 (November 2014). \n\n\nThese data are cited by the [National Safety Council here](https://www.nsc.org/road/safety-topics/fatigued-driver).", "Thats fricking crazy, its so early. Schools start at 9am in uk.", "When I was in high school I wrote a paper about this, claiming that starting school later would produce better educational results because students would be less tired. I knew with every single word that I wrote that I was bullshitting. Just go to bed earlier.", "This video is AI generated", "The real, simpler solution is to not let kids in high school drive a fucking car. 16yo is way too young and the brain way underdeveloped to get a driving license.", ">The burden isn't on me\n\nSince you made the claim the burden is on you.\n\n>6,400 fatal crashes, involve a drowsy driver\n\nVideo: \"Drowsy driving kills more people on the road than either alcohol or drugs combined.\"\n\nEven with this 10x estimate the video is bullshit.", "I literally says \"The three biggest causes of fatalities on the road are alcohol, speeding and lack of seat belt use.\" [National Safety Council here](https://www.nsc.org/road). Like front and center even", "Just think your way out of it bro, what’s the problem", "Don’t equate my skepticism about the official statistics with your own opinion about the video, which I haven’t watched. I am merely warning you against using the official government numbers to justify your reaction to the video because it’s apparent that those numbers leave a lot to be desired.", "Throw in sports and it gets crazier. I had to be at school by 6:50 to work out till 7:45, school was 8am-3pm, practice from 3:30-6:30, home around 7.", "Fuck. That.", ">I am merely warning you against using the official government numbers \n\nNo you're not. Your opinion is not stated in a vaccuum. You replied to a post that said that video is bullshit. If you didn't want to be part of that conversation then you shouldn't have replied.\n\n>it’s apparent that those numbers leave a lot to be desired\n\nYes, and we've seen that even with the 10x higher estimate you cited, the video is still wrong.\n\nYour \"the burden isn't on me\" and \"I am merely skeptical\" bullshit is meant to convey that you're completely disconnected from the conversation, but you're not, you're replying to a thread about the validity of the video, not assessing statistical claims in a vacuum.\n\nAnd bottom line, even with the numbers you provided, the video is still bullshit." ]
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A simple solution that would help a lot of teens struggling with sleep deprivation.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=RzA4dCT4X0I&feature=share
/r/videos/comments/r9f1ca/whats_my_name/
[ "Is that sexual harrassment?", "No it's Hugh Mungus", "always terrible when people make themselves look like absolute animals and thus dragging down everyone around them", "hugh mongus wot?", "Hysteria", "How day u!", "THIS PERSON JUST SEXUALLY HARASSED ME!", "Such an insufferable cunt.", "Wow she’s a pos", "EXCuse mE wHAt iS yOUr NaME", "This reminds me of a game my brother and I used to play as wee lads. Whoever we were in the back seat of the family van in the parking lot of a Safeway on the side of the store nearest to the pharmacy, we would take turns touching each other on the shoulder and I would say \"my name is woody\" and he would say \"my name is bitch\" and we would do that on repeat until my parents would get back and drive us away with donuts to play Monkey Magic on ps1", "Mike Hunt", "Rudy such a nice man. Check out the h3h3 podcast #18", "wow it's crazy to think this is new to some people", "He delivers the joke wrong.", "I was really hoping when they asked the cameraman for the guys name it was actually going to be Hugh Mungus.", "Is it 2016 again?", "She sounds like an attention seeking professional victim...\n\nI get the feeling she does this shit a lot.", "What a F\\*\\*\\*ing Karen, IF anything this woman should be the one arrested I mean WHO is SHE running around DEMANDING to know who anyone else is or WHY they are being interviewed NOT ONCE did she state who she is and NOT once did anyone ask her WHO she is and the Security Guard she should have called the police since they saw nothing BUT a screaming woman who seemed to be creating a problem to begin with.\n\nN. Shadows", "2016 was a wild year", "Shoutout to his family", "Mike Hawk", "Take a joke ya stuck up bitch. Karen ass cunt", "She doesn't know what a joke is.", "\"How To Delegitimize Your Own Cause\"\n\nby, This Lady", "What a throwback! \nI just re-watched h3h3production videos on that infamous incident.", "I wouldn't be surprised if she is a mod on reddit.", "Sick sign-off bro", "What a cunt woman! Saying anything is humungous is not sexuality any way. That’s a humungous building, that’s a humungous plane. She turned it sexually as she needed something to scream at!", "Missing the old h3h3", "Yeah, I remember following this whole thing through H3, and that feels like a lifetime ago.", "i have a pet jellyfish that tickles me funny", "Mike Hunt wot?", "When she asked hugh mongous what, I would’ve probably said Jr., or maybe the third. She’d probably go apeshit if she heard the third. The third what? Are you harassing me?", "God that accent is rough.", "what that has to do with anything?", "Hugh really trolled her hard. the ultimate trigger.", "Hey bud it’s not 2015 anymore", "No, now its 2021 and this same problem is way worse", "No it’s not. Twitter is not real life. Go outside", "How is it supposed to go?", "Oh you’re right, social and political divisiveness and misinformation is just on Twitter. My bad.\n\nGet your head out of your ass.\n\nEdit: Actually, u/surferos505 is exactly what I’m talking about. With comments like:\n\n“*Left wing destroyed 😎😎*”\n\n“*You guys have some shit parents it seems*”\n\n“*Please tell me you kids don’t actually think like this”*\n\nAt the same time with all the niche videogame and meme subs they’re active in, u/surferos505 is clearly Gen Z or at least a Millennial. \n\nJust another cringey, hypocritical, whining troll cosplaying as a contrarian.", "Joe Mamah.", "one of the original attempts to cancel someone", "What do you miss?", "HYSTERIA WHAT.", "Did I just witness the original Karen???", "When they called out this type of absurdity instead of supporting it, probably.", "What years of internet does to mf, \n\nSad to see", "The third dude at 5:50 looks like he thought about saying Hugh Mungus too", "It’s hilarious because you’re doubling down but I don’t even have a Twitter account.\n\nEdit: and your most recent posts were to a cringey edgelord sub 😂", "[ **Jump to 05:50 @** Hugh Mungus (Original Video)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzA4dCT4X0I&t=0h5m50s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: BenVapes, Video Popularity: 92.15%, Video Length: [08:43])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@05:45](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzA4dCT4X0I&t=0h5m45s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)", "Mike Hunt", "I bet she's fun at parties", "Who has time to do this shit!?", "I saw all the Hugh Mungus memes, but didn't know what the source was. After watching this, I feel a bit depressed... people like Zarna Joshi (the woman in hysterics...word chosen intentionally) are making the world a worse place by taking meaning away from terms like \"sexual harassment\", \"rape\", etc. and making those who speak out against them look like a joke. \n\nIn the age of the internet, how can we get nutjobs like this to stop influencing the thoughts of people who might otherwise hold sane, rational views? Because I would quite honestly bet my life that stuff like this plays a big role in alt-right wackos' perception that moderates and the left are all a bunch of lying pussies who cry wolf. Exposure to insanity like this at an impressionable age almost certainly affects a significant number of people, too—when I was just coming into adulthood, similar rhetoric shaped my thinking (not to this degree of insanity, thank God), and Reddit discourse in general is a pretty good indicator that this kind of exaggeration is contagious. \n\nSo in an age where rhetoric like Joshi's is promoted, especially for engagement's (and therefore ad revenue's) sake, what can be done to meaningfully influence people into...I dunno, behaving with respect to other humans and caring about intellectual integrity?", "Alright I have to be that guy. \n\nWtf is going on here? I feel like I need some context.", "You EMPHASIZE lots OF words for SOME reason. \n\nO. Windsock", "What type of absurdity does he support?", "Hugh Mungus WOT", "It's worse: he posts in SRD.", "Hey bud, water is wet.", "Hugh Mungus WHAT?", "I’ve met them both and I know other people who have interacted with them more. \n\nZarna Joshi is from a wealthy high-class family. She is the very definition of privilege. She doesn’t work, except for professional activism. Always lying about how oppressed she is and begging for donations. Terrible person. \n\nRudy Pantoja is an actual working class person from a poor family. He has worked as a landscaper for much of his life and was working in a convenience store recently. Volunteers and cleans up his community. Very kind person.", "One of those moments where both the parties involved suck", "This one will always make me laugh. \n\nGuaranteed I’m laughing if I see someone fall for it.", "Did attention seekers all die in 2015 or something?", "I'm glad nobody said anything overtly sexual, otherwise a lot more people might have actually thought her allegations of sexual harassment were substantial", "People not be afraid to hold people like Joshi accountable for their actions rather than just saying they had good intentions, which is usually what happens.", "r/awfuleverything", "Damn man, guess I really triggered you", "No it’s not \n\nhttps://youtu.be/ugyqOSUlR2A", "People like this are so deranged they don’t even know what their cause is anymore.", "Nah we good bruv", "Hysteria ectomy", "Hard to ignore them when they go running around yelling at their tops of their lungs yelling they’ve been sexually harassed over a name", "Just kidding ma'am my name is actually Ty Needick", "That’s when you gotta go “please don’t harass me” before she asks “Hugh Mungus whaaa?”", "Why not just start acting more outraged than her?", "Yeah that’s why you went through my post history \n\nCause you were definitely not triggered", "Just goofs and spoofs my guy lol relax", "I can't believe he sexually harassed her in public like that!", "If he was like “I have a humongous penis” then maybe she has a case, but just saying your name is Hugh Mungus probably not going classify as sexual harassment", "\"Do you mean your third *leg*? You just sexually harassed a woman!\"", "Also goes by the name of Hugh Mungus", "You know how people get muted from Reddit, online games, etc. when they say some fucked up shit? We should be able to mute humans for a set period of time when they act like her. Defamation/false accusation is a serious offense.", "That video is like 5 years old", "The past couple years felt like a decade", "What? She was the laughing stock of the entire world when this happened. Hugh Mungous became a folk hero.", "Hugh Mungus, the Tird", "\"Abused a women\"... \"sexual harassed\"... really?", "Yeah, I remember this. It was the time when saying that we actually need cops, wasn't \"far right propaganda\". And instead of burning flags we said that the country didn't live up to the flag.\n\nHow low the US have fell.", "> Zarna Joshi is from a wealthy high-class family. She is the very definition of privilege. She doesn’t work, except for professional activism. Always lying about how oppressed she is and begging for donations. Terrible person.\n\nI figured this. If your full-time job title is \"activist\", then I just assume you're from a wealthy, privileged family who could pay for and support your non-work lifestyle.\n\nStill though, I'd like to get to the root of her psychology as to why her default setting is to yell, scream, and demean people. Just look at how she turns things into a shitshow yelling match in the short span of 3 minutes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBc7pXjh830", "Her screeching brings me indescribable joy", "God that women is absolutely horrible", "This bitch needs to calm the fuck down.", "Haven't watched them since around the time this happened. Not missing much at all I'm sure.", "Funny you should say that, cause she is. Of r/TwoXChromosomes", "That bitch's voice makes me want to put my head in a blender...", "Wait what?", "I guess she may be overcompensating for her privilege, because she feels guilty about it. Maybe she was abused by a white man and hates all of them now. IDK. \n\nI used to see her at community meetings and she usually has a chip on her shoulder. Always protesting, just disruptive. Never saw her join in any actual efforts to improve the neighborhood.", "People need to stop perpetuating shit like this on social media. If the idiots dont get the attention, they will be less motivated to produce these outrages.", "I'm socially inept too but roasting doesn't mean you're triggered\n\nalso it's fucking cringe stop defaulting to that word like a 5 year old it's an old meme now", "He said \"usually\". Bc MOST of the time, crybabies like this insane lady get their way mainly bc people just want to shut them up. And bc it \"makes a good story\".", "you do you", "For real?", "Cool, all right", "Who is she on there? Are you for real?", "No chance they would be that dumb. You're trolling.", "You're tilting at windmills.", "Wow, this bitch is truly looney tunes...", "Out of the loop here, whats SRD?", "Didn’t know you were the arbiter of the age of memes", "No. Gaslight elsewhere.", "It’s funny because you can’t even tell if it’s joke or not.", "That was in 2016???? I though 2013!", "nah you're right I'm no arbiter, feel free to narwhal bacon at midnight to your hearts content.", "Hugh Mungus Hwaaa?", "ShitRedditSays, which is the sub where we used to collect all the insane shit said by the reddit drama queens both left and right. Now it seems, they have just fully taken over every aspect of reddit now.", "Oh, sweetheart. \nIt's OK, we all remember being 12. It's rough. Just remember, no one will like you when you're older either.", "Did you just sexually harass me? DID YOU JUST SEXUALLY HARASS ME?!?!", "#DID YOU JUST SEXUALLY HARASS ME?!?", "Can we go back to when this was the biggest scandal on the internet", "Same lol", "Probably? Humongous is a generic adjective. If anything, she *assumed* he was talking about his penis, which makes her the pervert.", "[Biggus Dickus](https://youtu.be/HrcbCW4y9Dw)", "Thanks 😘", "You talking from experience?", "Today’s H3H3 would likely take up for the woman in this.", "Sometimes the genuinely best prescription to help someone as awful as this person snap out of their ego delusions is just a good old fashioned slap.", "Peak sjw.", "Lmfao", "If that's true then /u/hughmungus needs to step up to the plate", "return of the king", "Imagine if the security guard said his name was hugh 😂", "Her voice is horrific", "I’m sure you’re correct, but I really don’t understand how privileged they are should have any bearing on whether they are assholes or not. There are nice privileged people, there are asshole working class people", "What a legend, and she is a cunt in need of just one solid slap in public from an actual victim of sexual assault.", "I just pointed it out because she’s the type of person who goes around accusing other people of being privileged. It seems like some kind of hypocrisy, projecting her own issues onto others.\n\nNot that I think there’s necessarily a correlation of being privileged and being an asshole.", "Welcome to the world of woke", "You’re weird bro.", "There is power in claiming victimhood. She wants that power.", "So are you", "This needs to be so much higher up.", "How does he suck?", "Ok based", "Ladies and gentlemen please welcome to the stage", "And there’s a correlation between being poor and being a criminal. Should we be prejudiced towards all poor people?", "Look... The chick overreacted majorly... Sure..\n\nBut let's not pretend this dude want hitting on her and using an innuendo.\n\nIf you're saying he wasn't, you're just as bad as she is", "You can train the algorithm away from subs if you don't engage with them.", "He wasn't", "Lmfao yeah he was definitely hitting on her, pal. A real sharp observation", "He was talking about his weight dude. He's fat. He pointed to his gut.", "I didn’t say that either.", "Damn that was embarrassing. Busted", "You can ignore one person sure, but when that person manages to rally the entire population of twitter to come after you, That's a lot harder to ignore.", "Nope, maybe you got a video card issue...or need to reinstall a driver.", "most likely issue with GPU (or whatever is handling your display), could be either software or hardware. \n\ndo a CLEAN re-install of your drivers, make sure you are using default/factory settings (at least for a while to confirm if you are still getting the issue) on whatever software is managing your vidya drivers (ge-force/adrenaline).\n\nSome bluelight/redlight software seems to cause this on some devices aswell. If you are running anything like that, might be worth disabling for the time being.", "there is far worse impact from the people who shared this making a huge deal about a random person than said random person doing this", "They cashed up and got out while the gravy train was still rolling. Who can blame them? Can't say I'd do things differently in their shoes. Now they just put out a podcast or video every now and then \"shit content\" as you say just to seem active.", "She never had a cause. This was a mentally ill woman who was subject to walk-by mocking by people before. And nothing more.", "This is definitely what happened, and while she’s still crazy, it explains why she reacted like that. She didn’t pick up on the Hugh as a name part and only noticed the humongous. That’s why she immediately said “humongous what?” And assumed he was about to talk about his penis. \nI feel like he just expected a sarcastic “oh ha ha” back and I’m sure that’s what she would have done if she picked up on the joke.", "It's something fucked with YouTube, it happens strictly on my phone. I've found that switching the video quality fixes it 100% of the time", "I think she only heard humongous as a first name and didn’t pick up on the Hugh part and assumed he was gonna say penis next. This explains her immediate reaction.", "> how can we get nutjobs like this to stop influencing the thoughts of people who might otherwise hold sane, rational views?\n\n\nYou should watch some nomination and confirmation hearings. The amount of dishonesty and irrationality is mind-boggling... the nutjobs aren't just some random activists, they're your judges and officials in positions of power. I'm not even American and I'm shocked at the amount of mental gymnastics and reflection when people are being called out and challenged. \n\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/c/ForbesBreakingNews/search?query=hearing%20nominee%20confirmation", "Have you heard about The Dinosaur Thing? Check out my profile.", "Institutionalized is more like it", "Crazy to think Ethan today would side with Zarna, or at least tolerate it.", "It's a YouTube issue. My Samsung Galaxy S10+ occasionally does it when Reddit loads YouTube in its internal browser.", "Hitting on her? Haha. You're insane.", "Oh really. So, she's all bluster and no action? Do you have any more stories of her? Do other people also think she's just all talk?", "Would've been fucking hilarious of the guy at 3:30 told her he was called, \"Hugh Mongous\" too.", "[ **Jump to 03:30 @** Hugh Mungus (Original Video)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzA4dCT4X0I&t=0h3m30s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: BenVapes, Video Popularity: 92.14%, Video Length: [08:43])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@03:25](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzA4dCT4X0I&t=0h3m25s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)", "The aliens are replying to the Arecibo message. Install a screen recorder, record it, and then call Jodie Foster. Time to see dad again!", "i'm actually a bit mind-fucked that you somehow processed that interaction as him hitting on her..\n\nhe had just spoke about his daughter at the time, and this woman barged into his space with a camera asking his name - he was clearly annoyed by her", "i respect you not denying it", "She needs to get slapped across the face with a fish.", "I moved out of Seattle about 3 years ago and don’t know what’s going on there anymore. I assume she’s still playing her game. \n\nThere’s a small group that she’s part of, kind of like a cult. They go around and try to dominate community meetings. They have some supporters. Some people will jump on board with anything about social justice. \n\nI’m sure other people have a problem with her but most would not want to provoke her. Maybe for fear of being called a racist or whatever. Probably because she’s clearly psychotic. \n\nI remember once I raised my hand at a neighborhood meeting and suggested we try to stay on topic because some of us have other things to do and want to be productive. She shouted at me and called me a gentrifier and colonizer and so on. \n\nLOL, WTF?\n\nSomeone said she didn’t even live in our neighborhood. I grew up there as a homeless kid and later with a foster family. \n\nI was trying to help with direct action, volunteering at the food bank, building tiny houses for the homeless, picking up trash, and so on. But if I didn’t support her exact way of thinking, then I was the worst person in the world and the cause of everybody’s problems. \n\nTotally turned me off of community meetings. I actually sympathize with some aspects of social justice issues, but I think people like her do a disservice.", "What a psycho.", "Women deal with a lot of little micro aggressions from men and we can go insane. It's cumulative damage. I'm crazy too. One time a guy whistled at me on the street I went into his work and screamed at him and his boss in front his customers. Catcalling fore started when I was junior high walking home from school, they normally do it from a car so they can get away. One time a guy yelled at me to get in his car. Then a guy does it to me in front of his work? Oh I'm just going to blow up his life. He'll never do it again. \n\nSo i can see from both sides. Like yeah she's crazy and I see myself in her, totally. But I've done a lot of work on it. I was suicidal, like I went all the way to the bottom and then I bounced. Because it's not just catcalling from a young age, I had a sexual harassment encounter with\"tom lykis\" professor in college, he just had me stand up in front of the class and said he had sex with me as example of a lie or something, I think the point was to mess with me because it made zero sense. I was almost raped, I got fired for gender discrimination back when the Trump campaign was feeding men a lot of propaganda about women in leadership. It's all that stuff + the little surprise Micro-agressions. And it's also hard to fight successfully when you get in that sort of desperate victim mindset. You give away a lot of power. So that. And then on the other side it's just not men's fault for not knowing any of this. \n\nAnd this is my input but I think men are generally good hearted sometimes theyre just culture locked. Like in France they map catcalling hotspots. They can map it because culture is geographic. men are just reading social ques from their group identity for whats permissable because that's what humans do. So theyre just doing what's normal, like dick jokes to pissed off ladies is normal in our culture. My boyfriends uncle is from Saudi Arabia and he was beating his wife in public who was also pregnant and in front of their two year old, basically guys circled around him about to fight him and his American cousin had to explain why they were doing that. He doesn't understand because he's doing something normal.", "It's called Emotional Expressionism in the written WORD.\nN.S", "Yeah that’s what I was trying to get at. I’m not like a huge fan of his but he seems pretty basic left of center which is funny how hurt that makes people" ]
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videos
What's my name?
https://youtu.be/vHkTrvERuQQ
/r/videos/comments/r9fc8q/ugly_sweater_die_hard_parody_used_as_an/
[ "Why's McClain so shaky?", "I can't wait now to watch the original Christmas classic die hard this Christmas LOL", "I thought it was billy mays" ]
3
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Ugly Sweater “Die Hard” parody used as an invitation for a Christmas party.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=NsGzHGSx1lc&feature=share
/r/videos/comments/r9fjp6/hidden_camera_footage_from_inside_an_australian/
[ "Lol this is such nonsense. She doesn't have to go overseas I'd she had of stayed in Australia she wouldn't have to quarantine silly person", "Not everyone is comfortable never leaving their couch. Perhaps it works for you…", "That's a covid quarantine facility. Of course there are rules about where she can go. It's common sense.", "Lmao, \"internment camp\", you guys and your persecution fetish are hilarious... it's a covid quarantine.", "Lol Australia is a very large country you don't have to stay on your couch to not leave it during a pandemic", "Guess you were sleeping for the past two years and missed the constant border closures, nightly curfews and 5km travel boundaries." ]
44
videos
Hidden camera footage from inside an Australian internment camp
https://youtu.be/hgZE-6m3mRY
/r/videos/comments/r9ggbn/that_great_scene_from_death_becomes_her_meryl/
[ "immortality a fate worse than death.", "[my favorite scene](https://youtu.be/MXusz3NtaKg?t=136)", "Seems to be coming true, with all the surgery women get ¯\\\\\\_(ツ)\\_/¯", "One of the jokes here, if you didn't catch it, is that Greta Garbo is implied to have been a client - she was famously a recluse for the last several decades of her life.\n\nAnd also Isabella Rosselinis mother. <- And as ThrindellOblinity points out below, she is not and I am forever ashamed...", "FYI Rossellini is the daughter of Ingrid Bergman, not Greta Garbo!", "Can we just all agree that Rossellini is the daughter of Ingrid Bergman and Greta Garbo!", "You're right. I feel not very cool right now. I should probably delete that comment and hide somewhere... :D\n\nHave a great day! If this is my worst mistake today, I think I'll be fine." ]
8
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That great scene from Death Becomes Her (Meryl Streep + Isabella Rossellini)
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/r9h7s9/deleted_by_user/
/r/videos/comments/r9h7s9/deleted_by_user/
[ " Is that what they call a wheelie?", "Sweet justice", "That'll buff right out...", "whoever was behind that camera was locked in", "Have to be honest, that's incredible control....they managed to keep the removed wheel under the truck so they didn't damage their brakes and hub...lol", "Wheels on the shopping cart be like", "That spinning bit of white is the end of the axle and that appears to be the dust shield and not the rotor. I think the brake and hub went with the wheel.", "/r/praisethecameraman", "r/IdiotsInCars is waiting for you", "this user, /u/vastbreak_17\n is a spam account reuploading stolen videos to their own YouTube channel and constantly posting them as if they are original content.\n\nhe deletes and reposts them again over and over.", "You misspelled incredible luck.", "That's gonna be an expensive lesson!!", "Video ended too soon. I wanted to see the driver get out and see what he’s done.", "Thanks for the heads up. Will block.", "That truck weighs 5000lbs, so it does not surprise me that it took the axle right off there, with the brakes, calipers etc. I think he is lucky the wheel stayed under the truck, preventing a lot more body damage", "Hahaha classic", "True.", "Yeah I should have written \"damage it anymore\" lol.\n\nStill they protected the bodywork from getting scraped along the ground" ]
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[deleted by user]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFGAhVRJk7U
/r/videos/comments/r9hfza/santa_inc_youtubes_new_disliked_series/
[ "110th disliked elven series", "1.1 rating in IMDb and 3% average audience score in Rotten Tomatoes. \n\nLooks like Hollywood is fully committed to their audience, this is just further evidence that they aren't pushing blatantly subversive narratives to the public at large.", "This series sucks but it's 100x better than an American pickle. That was truly retched.\n\nI don't understand why the title calls it a youtube series. It's on hbo", "The only good thing Seth rogen ever made apart from a joint was super bad", "> youtube series\n\nI think they just brain farted. I think they wanted to talk about the New HBO series YouTube trailer. That the reaction was about the YouTube trailer? Just giving the benefit of the doubt. \n\nThough, it fits my theory that a lot of people make purposeful mistakes for interaction. If you make an obvious mistake, people can't help but point it out. So, you get comments that MUST point out the mistake.", "Steve Jobs. 50/50. Future Man. The Night Before. Long Shot. Preacher. 40 Year Old Virgin. Pineapple Express. Knocked Up. Freaks and Geeks. This Is The End...\n\nAll disagree.", "Check out Seth’s twitter to see how many Alt Right goobers have been brigading nonstop. I enjoyed the first few episodes for what they were. Not going to win any oscars but I don’t imagine that was the intent.", "Haha it true the urge is so strong.\nWhat have I become?", "Oops of my bad, he produced future man and I love that show I also love the 40 year old Virgin but I really haven't enjoyed anything he has started or written apart from superbad, this is just my opinion if you like what he does good for you", "says reddit account that posts constantly in r/ActualPublicFreakouts. We did it guys.", "Ethnic activism 🤣\n\nJewish people having opinions and standing up for them sure does rile some people up. Tiki torches not included.", "An American Pickle (2020)? Don't know. I went into that movie expecting it to suck with a funny premise. Like I guy is pickled, lol. I wasn't more dissapointed then expected, and some strong gin and tonics probaly helped.", "Preacher is legit. Need to see the last season some time.", "Great call. But I imagine they won't respond since they're too busy re-posting this nonsense in Kotaku In Action and a cacophony of other toxic subs to try and cancel Seth Rogen for making a cartoon.\n\nPeople are weird.", "Nah, a lot of those are garbage. Pineapple Express was kind of alright, I suppose.", "\"Get Woke, Go broke.\" The New Hollywood meta.", "They're literally all bangers. But if ya'll want to cancel Seth Rogen over a xmas cartoon that's super cool!", "Nice inference, kid (a truly mind boggling leap).\n\nYou're obviously a fan of Seth and good for you. However, don't expect everyone to be. And don't expect everyone to agree with your taste in entertainment, whether it's linked to Seth or not.", "Good stuff, kiddo!", "Pineapple Express is funny when you are like 14, but beyond that you just cringe really", "It made ghostbusters 2016 look like airplane. The American pickle is the worst thing to happen to pickles since relish.", "I mean it is all about expectations really. Like I went into it wanting to see a guy get pickled, not some shawshank redemption.", "Haha", "And Reddit users wonder why people think they're a bunch of pompous cunt holes ¯\\\\\\_(ツ)\\_/¯", "No, people just hate Seth Rogen because he’s British", "I feel like if I reply with anything other than “Huh?” Some crazy ass knowledge will be given." ]
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videos
Santa Inc - Youtube's New Disliked Series
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvQ5fmo8UkM
/r/videos/comments/r9i8my/yoshis_island_story_music_box_tiny_keyboard/
[ "Beautiful, remind me of a child's lullaby", "Best video game and sound track ever", "COMRADE", "Nice work. I love that song.", "Man, this one brought me back! beautifully done!", "This dude looks like he's been told to make this video or they will kill his daughter." ]
7
videos
Yoshi's Island - Story Music Box (Tiny Keyboard Version)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x80EbmX5xys
/r/videos/comments/r9idv4/how_the_melinda_and_gates_foundation_prevents/
[ "I'd encourage anyone who believes the headline to actually look into what the organization does before believing a YouTuber. \n\nIt's a non-profit that works to get vaccines and medical care into developing countries and develop tech to ensure they can be safely transported and refrigerated into remote areas.", "and i encourage people to watch atleast the proposal of the video before making conclusions about the headlines.", "How about proof of this not in the form of a YouTube video", "But what about the clicks!? Wont somebody *please* think of the poor clicks!?!", "That's how sensational claims work- draw you in for the ad revenue and damn the consequences since all it means for the creators is more engagement. Do be played for a sucker.", "Shut the fuck up, OP.", "Yet you did not bother to read the video's description which includes articles from the ny times, the WHO and official financial reports from Melinda and Gates foundation.\n\nHe may not be a journalist but he did research and has shared all the information he got from.", "sure, from his YT description: https://imgur.com/a/P9yrY9U", "https://imgur.com/a/P9yrY9U", "how an emotional response. IF you don't trust the video in any way, you can scrutinize the articles he based his claims from: https://imgur.com/a/P9yrY9U", "Did *you* scrutinize them?\n\nPeople like you are the cancer of the world today.", "i am unsure why the emotional hatred you have for me having a negative opion of Bill Gates. \n\nDo you think i am an antivaxx? Or do you genuinely think Bill Gates is having good intentions with his involvement with the pandemic response? and you took offense to the challenge that maybe he has a lot of corporate interest?\n\nWhy did you assume i didn't scrutinize them? You are just deflecting your unwillingness to actually read the sources and make a conclusion from it.", "You have to be especially stupid to believe this. Like, genuinely one of the dumbest people on Earth.\n\nAnd you're probably thinking, \"I went to school, college, etc, some people haven't even done that, I can't be dumber than them\"\n\nBut you'd be wrong. Those people just haven't been educated. You have access to all these things but you're still dumb. That's an actual achievement.", "> Why did you assume i didn't scrutinize them?\n\nI didn't *assume*. I know.", "A picture of incomplete links. Wow, that sure helps! Lol", "Look man. An image of incomplete links obviously isn't convincing anyone of your drivel. YouTube is literally never a legitimate source for anything that matters, so if this is something you honestly believe in and feel you need to educate people, find and post a real source.", "it's in the videos description. idk why this sub is extremely fast into going into assumptions and go for the ad hominems.", "Just stop.", "Yeah, that's not a response to what I wrote. And I'm being, like, the nicest one here. I've since poked around your profile and have lost interest in your opinions. You're clearly confused." ]
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How the Melinda and Gates foundation prevents poor countries to get the covid vaccines and encourages the prolongation of the pandemic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuDX6wNfjqc
/r/videos/comments/r9j70c/daft_punks_breakup_video_after_8_years_since/
[ "Too soon, bruh.", "Still gets me", "Releases final full length album.\n\nWaits 8 years.\n\nBreaks up.\n\nRefuses to elaborate.", "One of em probably got their head far too up their pompous french asses", "One of the first albums I bought as a kid back in 97. Still listen to it today, the difference is that my 3 year old is vibing out in the back seat. Never got to see them live, not a massive life regret but definitely up there.", "I really liked their music back in the day, but they haven't been relevant in so long It felt kinda weird that they came back just for this.", "Holy Crap, I didn't even realize Random Access Memories was that old.", "As painful today as the day the news broke", "It's beautiful!", "I hope they end up doing some ex-post touring in the future! \n\nI listened to them when smaller, but never considered going to a concert up until now - I hadn't looked into it and just found out they broke up :(", "Amen", "Wait....isn't this the ending to Electroma?", "I think contact", "The biggest music legends of our lifetime" ]
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Daft Punk's breakup video after 8 years since their last album drop
https://youtube.com/watch?v=SrDEtSlqJC4&feature=youtu.be
/r/videos/comments/r9ja1c/the_real_reason_mcdonalds_ice_cream_machines_are/
[ "I don’t have 30 minutes to watch your video, but coming from a service tech viewpoint most of the problems, in the past anyways could be attributed to not being disassembled completely, and cleaning procedures done correctly, let alone reassembled correctly. Now with such a big shortage of workers I’m sure it has gotten much worse.", "You don’t have time, yet you’re browsing /r/videos by new. \n\nNow if you’d watched the video you’d know that’s the main excuse everyone falls for. When in reality the manufacturer Taylor who has an exclusive contract with McDonald’s gets paid millions per year in service tech fees, paid for by the franchise owners. They aren’t allowed to use any other machine.", "It's because the machines are made to be difficult to keep running since the service techs have to be called out more. It's a self cleaning machine made by a company that makes machines for virtually every other fast food place and no one else has the issue. Software updates are just more error codes for the same issues. It's basically a racket between McDonald's and Taylor (?) to charge franchisees more. It's intentionally poorly designed and McDonald's would like to keep it that way.", "You got me there, however I don’t work for Taylor and I have always taken apart machine and cleaned before I would do any troubleshooting, unless something obvious was wrong.", "Imagine going to McDonald's for ice-cream. I'd rather just grab a tub of discount supermarket brand and sit at home, at least they have flavors beyond chocolate and caramel.", "Why should they be allowed to use other machines, or source their own beef, or start selling pasta? It's a McDonald's. Franchise owners reap the benefits of customer expectations of a uniform service offering because that's what they are required to deliver.", "You clearly didn’t watch it. \n \nThe company Taylor requires McDonald’s owners to use the specific model of ice cream machine that breaks. Meanwhile allowing other company’s to use other models of the same machine that don’t have these issues. Same brand.", "I watched 7+ minutes, or two commercial breaks worth. You just answered my only question, one I didn't care to spend another 23 minutes on, and hadn't thought about since.\n\nI'm willing to bet that corporate also determines what model walk-ins, cash registers, and deep fryers they use.", "No the other items have a choice of a few different styles to fit their restaurant needs." ]
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The real reason McDonald’s ice cream machines are always broken.
https://youtu.be/hGMrc3ozMhs?t=4
/r/videos/comments/r9jt9d/waldo_the_movie_trailer/
[ "*Waldo : First Blood*", "A parody, right? RIGHT?", "I watched the entire trailer twice and still haven't spotted him. Can someone point him out and give me a timestamp?", "It would be annoying to create a Where’s Waldo movie, given he’s popularly known as Wally outside the US and Canada.\n\nWould they film each scene twice? Or dub over the audio?\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Where%27s_Wally%3F", "This is what happens when everyone asks where's Waldo... but no one asks how's Waldo. Poor guy was bound to snap.", "That picture and title alone had me laugh out loud", "post credits sequence of someone putting on a yellow and black striped shirt", "This is way too good to only have 25 upvotes. \n\nFrom the idea of Hollywood inevitably making a completely unnecessary adaptation of a famous children's IP, to the fact they did so in the most generic way possible, and then delivered in a pitch perfect send-up of the modern film trailer.\n\n\"Where's Waldoooo!?\"\n\n\"RIGHT HERE\"\n\nlol", "Probably just the audio", "I wish they made a full waldo point and click game", "The underlying problem here is that he’s never really found himself.", "It's not like you can find him in the film anyway.", "It’s an old meme, but it checks out" ]
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Waldo The Movie -- Trailer
https://youtu.be/ESI-bD2C9Ew
/r/videos/comments/r9kfdn/guy_attempts_to_drift_truck_in_parking_lot_almost/
[ "What an idiot.", "I like how you can see the axle still spinning.", "/r/idiotsincars", "Noice!", "Well done!", "That ended much better for everyone than it could have", "this user, /u/vastbreak_17\n is a spam account reuploading stolen videos to their own YouTube channel and constantly posting them as if they are original content.\n\nhe deletes and reposts them again over and over.", "No but spam reposters like this person really do ruin what reddit was set out to do. You took time out of your day to reply to this guy so maybe you need to find a hobby? Works both ways.", "Why would you defend a bot that steals content?", "Imagine judging someone while posting on subreddits such as 'thighdeology' and 'hentai'.", "Why do I see this happening all the time? We could have tons of people upvoting you and complaining about OP but they’ll continue posing without a ban. I feel like the report button doesn’t work anymore because of how often i see those kinds of users", "M8 you literally mod for r/hentai. The reason you attack others is because there's nothing to defend.", "'What are you, the karma police? Find a hobby.'\n\nI'm being needlessly hostile to your 'hobby' because you were needlessly hostile to someone that noticed a bot at a glance and wrote a comment about it. \n\nSome days I'm just a man, other days I am a Warrior of Justice (WoJ) that holds a mirror up to wankers such as yourself.", "I didn't call it an attack, I called it needlessly hostile :-)", "Sometimes names just stand out, and you're like \"not this guy again\". I doubt this dude has a spreadsheet going LOL", "If you're from Texas you've literally nothing on my prosperous country. Enjoy our 500 billion FDI because we're so developed we don't know where else to park our mad cash stacks l0l.", "Sorry I can't hear you over enjoying the fruits of other peoples' labour expressed in our robust socialized healthcare system that is adequately equipped to deal with our drug epidemic, which in the long term benefits everyone by stimulating an environment where ad hominem 'attacks' are considered discourteous and invalidating of those who use them to feel better about moderating hentai subreddits :-)", "I thought this entire subreddit was bot accounts...", "Repost this in the idiots in cars sub…", "Wtf is that edit? I never did that." ]
21
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Guy Attempts To Drift Truck In Parking Lot, Almost Hits Someone, And Rips Wheel Clean Off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkeS_0NQUZs
/r/videos/comments/r9kixn/cops_seize_combat_vets_life_savings/
[ "Only in America, where you are expected to lift yourself from poverty with your bootstraps into wealth, is it illegal to move that wealth in your private automobile. Anyone who doesn't think this shit is broken can get fucked.", "Only in American can you sue your government and win. And yes the system is fucked up and yes we can fix it .", "Marv Heymyer would like a word with you.", "American cops are only there to protect the interest of the wealthy.", "Better to trust the banks than the cops", "Remember folks in the US. You do not consent to a search. You want to know exactly what you were pulled over for and whether you are getting a waring, a ticket, or are under arrest. If you are under arrest the only word you say is \"LAWYER\".", "With cops like these, who needs robbers?", "Why should you not be able to trust either of them? \nIf they aren't trustworthy, get rid of them.", "This Veteran learned that you can't trust authority, even if they are \"bros\" just like you.", "Civil forfeiture is fucking atrocious", "Why shouldn't you, it's your property to do with as you please. Not always intelligent but you have every right to be stupid with your own property without harming others.", "I victim blame the guy because all he had to do was shut up and stop talking to the cop as if he’s our friend", "[Law enforcement took more stuff from people than burglars did in 2014](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/11/23/cops-took-more-stuff-from-people-than-burglars-did-last-year/) I would post newer stats but there are none as since this news broke, police stopped keeping on the records info. I wonder why.", "The police forces’ main (if not only) job is protecting the interest of capital. \n\nThis shouldn’t be a hot take, it’s literally the first thing listed in most police forces’ handbooks for employees. Furthermore saying that by itself shouldn’t even indicate where on the political spectrum I’m saying this from.\n\nIf you’re left wing, you look at that statement and agree and want to change it, and if you’re right wing you should look at that statement and agree without wanting it to change.\n\nMy biggest problem is with those who feel threatened when I say that, even though they stand nothing to lose by admitting that’s the truth.", "Wtf are you talking about. I've taken 20k in cash in an envelope multiple times to buy cars. How the fuck is having cash a crime? Ohh it fucking isn't? So what is this then? What exactly is this? It's fucking tyranny. Fuck these officers I hope everything bad on earth happens to them.", "> Only in American can you sue your government and win.\n\nWhy would you say something so obviously stupid?", "Because it’s true . Watch the video." ]
19
videos
Cops Seize Combat Vet's Life Savings
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/r9kntx/deleted_by_user/
/r/videos/comments/r9kntx/deleted_by_user/
[ "I read wife instead of life .. I guess she might not be his wife anymore so it still works LOL", "Was unsure why NSFW or NSFL wasnt tagged.\n\nI had to watch a second time...just to be sure.\n\nYou know, for science.", "good job with the link", "Why did you set it to only play the last second of the video though?", "...poof" ]
4
videos
[deleted by user]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD53LVjXIHs
/r/videos/comments/r9kp79/dugout_dick/
[ "Dugout dick is a legend", "Dick died April of last year at 94, all while still living there. It seems BLM has since demolished his homestead, but a small memorial is there.", "More about Dugout here https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/dugout-dick-memorial", "BLM destroyed his home? How? There were protests over there?", "Bureau of Land Management", "Lmao thanks for the clarification", "Tells you clean food and hard work can get you to old age.", "And apparently a whole lot of dirt doesn't hurt either.", "His hands are HUGE! No wonder they call him that.", "If you could squint your ears good enough you can almost hear his inner Beetlejuice.", "That was hilarious before the clarification", "Right? I was about to get pissed lol", "You should see his Dick!", "There's a funny scene on HBO's The White Lotus very similar to yalls comments of the two BLM mix ups." ]
15
videos
Dugout Dick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yO9VRtrTJwc
/r/videos/comments/r9ldxu/south_park_working_at_amazon_fulfillment_center/
[ "love that song", "You know when South Park is depressing things are bad.", "is the full episode just going to be a 20min advert for amazon? \nor pabst blue ribbon? \nor Casa Bonita", "\"FUCK YOU SON!\"\n\nGets me every time. Poor Butters, no wonder he's locked up in an insane asylum 40 years later.", "worst ad ever", "I wouldn’t say it’s an advert. \n\nI’m see the clip being more about dude has to work a second job at Amazon because he keeps buying crap on Amazon.\n\n…though that bike horn was a sweet gesture towards Butters. Especially after he told him to Fuck Off.", "I'll take any anti-Amazon sentiment I can get to wash out the taste of their shitty ads I see every now and again showing half-assed talking head clips from cherry-picked employees waxing about how good they have it, and those stupid singing box commercials. Their ads couldn't be emptier if they tried.", "Only for people incapable of understanding satire", "If it was subtle I could understand /u/HPT01's confusion but it couldn't be more obvious.", "The problem with Amazon Fulfillment Center jobs is not the pay. They pay double the federal minimum wage. It's the soul crushing and dehumanizing way the work is organized.", "The way I see it the vast majority of the jobs in the world are soul crushing and dehumanizing.", "Right, but some people are just that stupid.", "Fuck Terry Crews.", "Far more depressing than that. Workers in some mines were paid their wages in credits that could only be used at the company general store. It was essentially slavery. That is the origin of the song inthe video. It's also the satire, comparing Amazon to these old mines.", "I can't watch South Park just because of the constant overbearing background music.", "I worked as a grocery store cashier for about a year in college. That job felt soul crushing to me. Just stand in one place and scan groceries all day, every day.", "One of the best songs appropriate for Amazon", "Cartman was probably a bigger factor for that", "Amazon intentionally pushes everyone until they quit in 18 months on the dot. Everything revolves around that until they run out of labor. Which will be soon with the planned turn around.", "Their hourly worker turnover is around 150% a year. \n\nThere are degrees to things. Amazon work seems to be in the very bad end of things. \nWork can be menial and hard and people can still maintain some of their dignity.", "When he first clicks buy it's on the line \"I owe my soul to the company store.\"\n\nThe point is not that Butter's family is struggling for cash because they buy too much stuff on Amazon. We see them buy groceries, a whisk, and a 2.99 music subscription. Not exactly luxurious excess.\n\nThe point is comparing the backbreaking work in an Amazon warehouse to other forms of historically exploited and undervalued labor like coal mining, and to put the sheer ubiquity of Amazon next to the company stores and debt bondage of early 1900s company towns, the implication being that the effect is the same: an underpaid, undervalued, and underprotected working class, even if it looks different.", "I think they finally toned it down in the most recent stuff, but yeah, it was weird how it kept getting louder in the later seasons.", "Nah, the pay is definitely a problem too. Barely pays a living wage, pay is basically industry standard, if not $1/hr higher, but demands twice the labor compared to industry standard, for a fraction of the benefits.", "I wonder if this montage was purposely trying to mimic the look of a Breaking Bad montage. The camera angles inside of things, the time lapse, song choice. Might just be in my head.", "people are happy to do crushing and dehumanizing work if the pay were high enough.", "Their average starting wage is now $18/h, it's 10-30% better than average retail starting wage.", "Who wouldn't?", "You know when you have an old beater? A car not worth maintaining that you figure you'll just drive into the ground until you can afford something better? That's how Bezos sees the humans in his FCs. He's just waiting until the day he can automate the entire thing and replace all those pesky and inefficient meat-robots.", "All ads are soulless. Ever notice the bigger selling point in a lot of ads say “made with real ingredients” because the norm has become artificial?", "I lost a lot of respect for the guy after he selled out to Amazon", "Oh most definitely. I think Amazon and Wal-mart ads just especially hit that bitter note for me when they try to push out this narrative that their employees are treated well.", "That's why the job is so dehumanizing. The warehouse is designed for automation, humans are just placeholders for more advanced automation coming in the near future. \n\nI suspect the same happens in Walmart and other retailers as well. Eventually, they cut 80% of their workers. Retail stores become walk-in wending machines. People just pick their stuff and walk away showing their phone or credit card.", "Had a feeling their take on what Amazon has done would be surface level and lazy.", "Why 18 months? Is that just before the warranty runs out or something?", "Any work environment where the majority of your employees are seen as completely replaceable is going to have problems to one degree or another. \n\nThe problem with unskilled work, is when you are getting enough resumes a week to replace your entire staff there isn't a lot of incentive to improve working conditions. \n\nBeyond that, every major large corporation has similar issues to one extent or another... once a company hits a certain size it stops seeing employees as people and sees them as little more than robots... you might be lucky and have a decent boss where you work, but that really is the reality especially for those at the bottom, its why regulation is so important and why for all their faults so are unions...", "did you think he was your friend or something?", "Yeah but retail workers get breaks, can go to the bathroom, and don't have risk of injuring themselves. Plus retail jobs can be kept long-term, Amazon warehouse jobs are designed to have high turnover. Any job that is designed to have the worker quit it isn't a real job imho.\n\nAnd none of that justifies the whole \"do twice the standard work for 10% more pay and zero benefits\" thing. \n\nIf Amazon wants twice the labor done, they should hire two people at that wage, not one.", "I worked at a Amazon FC for a little bit. Although I was doing customer returns, instead of order shipping. First off let me tell you, the shifts are brutal. 10hr days, 2 15 minute breaks + 30 minute lunch. The rest of the time, you are standing at a computer screen unpacking/repacking returns. It is the most brutal experience to my back, that I've ever experienced. All because you don't really move. Just standing at a slight hunch for 10 hrs. It sucks. By the end of the night I couldn't stand up straight and by the end of the week, I'd be in unreal pain. Just from standing. They expect you do process about 260 returns a night, and have high quality. For the about month I was there I always told them, I'll give them one or the other, not both. You can have quality or quantity. I read somewhere to just work at your own pace, because as long as you are working, they will not fire you. BTW. You don't have to lie on your return reasons. And it's easy to tell when your drink and prime. lol\n\nThey typically play music over a large speaker, and one day this song came on. I started laughing, and nobody around me understood why it was so funny. I was a little let down. Amazon really is a soul crushing job. I didn't want to work there, but I needed something to get be by until finding something better.", "The worker will burn out around that point because Amazon isn't going to give them the kind of raises that would make them feel well enough to continue working like that. So eventually in some smaller population areas Amazon will exhaust their work pool candidates because they will turnover literally everyone in the community.", "Probably a number of reasons, but I'm sure they have all kind of metrics and data they look at and have noticed that you CAN'T do that shit for any longer at a certain point and the employees become not as efficient and start to just get lazy and done with it.\n\nThey won't run out of workers either.\n\nEvery day people are becoming old enough to enter the workforce and would jump at double the federal minimum wage.", "This is a good advert for Amazon employees who are getting an opportunity to vote to unionize.", "Humans are really not made for these types of mindless/repetitive task jobs. There is nothing intellectually stimulating about package boxes every day, or doing the same task over and over again. No matter how much you pay the person, the job will just grind them down little by little, hour by hour till that 18 month mark rolls around and the person realizes \"Am I going to be doing this for the next 40 years?\"\n\nIm pretty sure Amazon knows this and doesn't care because the human element they have in their Fulfillment Centers now is just temporary. This is why they invest heavily into automation and robotics. The human workers there are just there to complete the tasks the robots are not yet capable of doing with their current AI. Eventually, those Fulfillment Centers will be completely automated...with the only humans involved there in IT and Engineering support roles to fix the broken robot workers.", "And now I’m studying to be an RN", "It's a nuanced message. The system is exploitative, but even the people getting exploited benefit from the system and choose to use it. It's somber because the problem seems intractable.", "In Amazon treating people as robots is not metaphorical. Amazon workers are placeholders for machines that replace them in the next 5 to 10 years. Fulfillment centers are designed for automation, not for humans. I'm relatively sure that in 2030 Amazon warehouses run with 10% of the workforce they have now.", "Not everywhere. Here they're only offering a few dollars above the state minimum, with the gap closing a little more every year. Now they've moved on to offering crazy hiring bonuses, which I'm willing to bet they renege on with some fine print shenanigans.", "Are you arguing against something I said? \n\n\"Yeah but\" make it sound like you do, but you are just expanding the point I made in my first comment back to me.", "This is why I canceled my membership and no longer shop at Amazon. The endgame results of monopolies are horrible.", "Can’t wait until he reveals he became a rabbi just to troll Kyle", "Thank you for sharing your story\n\nI work at Amazon on the tech side and I appreciate when I hear stories from FC employees because there internal media mostly focuses on the benefits and pay that people receive, definitely not the work itself\n\nGlad you're done if it was that awful", "What's that? Ad advertisement from a company advertising that company and MADE by that company tried to portray themselves in a positive light?\n\nDon't get me wrong, fuck Amazon, but the entire advertising industry is 100% about ignoring the issues, and making the companies/products look better than they are. Ads are here to stay, and have been doing this for literally decades and decades, it's nothing new. The only thing you can do is not take an ad at face value. Just assume it's bullshit, and move on.", "I'm on outbound so you get to move and do different jobs. 4 10hr shifts 3 days off, 2 30 minute breaks. Mandatory overtime right now 60 hours a week. The job is not hard. Hard on the body sometimes, but that's it. Maybe I'm just in a good facility. I've had worse jobs that paid less. Good fallback job though. No interview and such. You could work a couple weeks while looking for another job then put in your resignation and just go back if the other job falls through.", "Didn’t even know South Park was still on.", "“I know he can get the job, but can he do the job?”", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jg047oJf1B4", "I think it's more of the \"company store\" idea that the song talks about. Coal miners back in the day were paid with money that they could only use at the company store that was owned by the mining company. That way the miners would get paid, then immediately give it back to the company to buy food and supplies. This was eventually made illegal. With how large Amazon is now, it is very hard to avoid using them at some point or another. The workers are like the miners working all day at Amazon just to go home and give the money back.", "Working at Amazon made Butters' dad less of an asshole?", "Luckily they are trying to get rid of pickers and go to lights out facilities.", "Their pay is definitely not industry standard for warehouse workers lol", "The problem is that comparable Edit: Warehouse jobs paid on average between $25-$35 an hour. Amazon pays $15 an hour and obfuscates the pay decrease by flooding social media with ads that they support a $15 minimum wage.", "Nah but every once in a while a rich, out of touch celebrity seems like they may just actually be a real human being. \n\nTerry had us going for a while, not gonna lie", "Alright we get it.", "I also stopped shopping at Amazon, with the exception being when my company sent me a $100 Amazon gift card. I bought a pair of Nike running shoes; my feet are used to that brand, and I figured if I were gonna buy something from an evil company, I might as well double down and but it through an evil retailer.\n\nI try to buy from local stores, and American (or at least not China) whenever possible.", "They'll usually have a clause in there that says you have stay with Amazon for X years to get them.", "Or maybe because \"made with real ingredients” is an completely meaningless quality that sounds nice?", "Aren't they literally trying to build Amazon company towns right now? Like that's never gone wrong before...", "https://youtu.be/DJqJ755MU84", "Working at Amazon made Butters' dad have less energy to be an asshole.", "Average in my area is almost $17/hr.", "The national average is around $11-$12 for warehouse workers. They are above the national average including additional benefits.", "I'm surprised how serious this was. You'd expect hyper-parody from South Park... like Jeff Bezos dressed as an astronaut while he watches the workers piss in bottles, but instead it's just a regular job.", "That isn't even minwage in my state.\n\nAnd what benefits? All of their jobs are designed to be quit before any benefits kick in.", "I made it to 22 months in a distribution warehouse before I got fed up, and the only reason I was able to handle the 12 hour mind numbing days was because I got a beanie with speakers in it so I could secretly listen to audiobooks.", "I miss that [Domino's Pizza campaign](https://www.storyarcconsulting.com/news/2020/7/1/the-were-sorry-we-suck-campaign) when they were just like, \"you spoke, and we listened. Our pizza sucks. We're going to try and make it better.\" I thought it was a smear campaign but it was just them trying to be better.", "They are absolutely a reflection of Bezos, who has the emotional intelligence and sensitivity of a mollusk.", "You must not have worked in retail or customer service if you think those jobs cater to long-term employment.", ">\tThat isn't even minwage in my state.\n\nOk? Do you understand what average means?\n\n>\tAnd what benefits?\n\nPretty standard benefits.\n\n>\tAll of their jobs are designed to be quit before any benefits kick in.\n\nLOL you said you don’t know what benefits they offer then you just made this up. Nice.", "Ah Jeff Bezos, beloved leader in business innovation and... *checks note on hand* restoring modern company town communities.", "So.....Just like Umbrella Corporation? Just got back from the new Resident Evil movie.", "I work at a casino and it sounds eeriely familiar to what I deal with daily. Problem is they pay just enough that it's very difficult to quit. I can work 3 days and pull the equivalent of a full time job elsewhere. It's just soul sucking. 14 years in and I've been burnt out for a solid 6 years", "So many college students in this thread complaining about a company that people work for because it’s better than their other options… \n\nworking for amazon for 15-20+ an hour is better than working for a “mom and pop” at 7.25 an hour and also no benefits", "i see no issue with this. the pay is double federal minimum wage for a job that takes 0 skill. the labor is being overpriced if anything. bezos has done terrible things but this is not one of them.", "The Google Fi ones are the ones that drive me up the wall recently. Like, I can't say they're bad, they're just empty of any value or information or content. The artwork is weak, the \"song\" is weak... it's just 10 seconds (or whatever) of my life that I have to pay when I want to watch a youtube video.", "Also that ad Verizon ran about having the \"best network for first responders\" that debuted less than a year after they throttled data for firefighters fighting the Paradise Fire.", "To be fair, [company towns](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Company_town) are a real evil thing that the Western world has had for a long time.", "I used to pee in bottles at Amazon, now I’ll be telling others to pee in bottles.", "> Humans are really not made for these types of mindless/repetitive task jobs.\n\nMuch work out there is like this, unfortunately. Factory work could be this way (depending on the job) as can farm work. \n\nHell, I worked IT helpdesk about 15 years ago and there was only so many times I could reinstall Adobe Reader or format the harddrive and reinstall Windows before I stopped caring and secretly watched DVDs on the job (again, 15+ years ago) or surfed the internet.", "So like that guy studying to be an RN in the Amazon commercial will experience again when he becomes an RN?", "I think it depends on your personality. I knew a woman who took payments at a utility company all day, every day. She sat at the front desk and people would come in and pay their bills. I asked if it was boring and she said the best part was that you'd get some chatty people now and then and it got so she would know a lot of the regulars. \n\nProbably a lot harder to do that in a grocery store cashier job, although you can probably talk to people a little.", "Of course there's another Resident Evil movie.", "You can make the same argument about voting. Doesn’t mean it isn’t worthwhile.", "In Brazil they were known for basically creating a form of slavery and a prison while at the same time not being technically slavery nor a prison.", "Love me some amazon. Stock has performed amazingly for me in the last 20 years.", "Hank Scorpio would like to personally welcome you to your new home", "Why did you mention \"the Western world\"?\n\nThey exist in most parts of the world. The link you posted even includes one of the most famous ones in the world, [Toyota City](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota,_Aichi) in Japan. \n\nAnd here are a bunch more:\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_company_towns", "What an asshole. What kind of actor takes on a job acting in a commercial for a company? Like, why can't he be like the actors who only work for poor companies?", "If its anything like the moving bonus I took to change locations within my company, its much more insidious.\n\n\"stay for x years to get the bonus\" means leaving early has no downside. You're no worse off than when you started cause you never got that money. You can't lose something you never had.\n\nWhen I moved, my company gave me a 10k and paid the taxes (so I actually got the full 10k), but with the stipulation that I had to continue working for them for 18 months. If I quit or was legitimately fired before then, I'd have to pay back the 10k + the taxes they paid on it. That would be around to 13k total.\n\nI didn't mind, because I had no plans to leave soon (its a good job, I'm passed the 10 months now and still there), but if a place like amazon did this with a sign on bonus, and made you sign a contract that says you have to work for x amount of time or you have to pay them back, then they could just wait till the quotas become too much and you either slip and they fire you for misconduct, or you quit cause you can't take it. Now you're on the hook for all that money and once Amazon gets it back, its like they hired you for however long you lasted with no bonus.\n\nThe trick is to give them something first. Then, they have something to lose.", "In fact, I didn't even give you my coat!", "Because some people like to look past the surface", "I love the episode where Al Gore comes back and everyone has to apologize to him and say that they were wrong. I'll give it to Matt and Trey, when they fuck up on something they'll revisit it and correct their bullshit, not a lot of people do that.", "Because I was ignorant of examples outside the Western world, and now I am not. Thank you!", "Yeah like Disney!", "Best part was her mixing with a spoon and then she opened the package and it was a mixing tool.\n\nYou need less to live than you think.", "Union.", "Yeah. Exactly. Pretty sure he was more of a Crews fan when Terry only worked Brooklyn 911, a plucky comedy on NBC, owned by Comcast. Why couldn't Crews only work for Comcast and not be an asshole by working for Amazon too?", "That's absolutely going to happen as the last thing. \"By the way Kyle. Your Mom... is a bitch\" or something like that. A 40 year con.", "My posts about this have been criticized by other Filipinos so perhaps I’m wrong, but I’ve always found the Filipino/Tagalog accent on that guy a bit off, almost like it’s the “gringo” way of pronouncing it. But I figure it’s because either Tagalog really isn’t his native language (rather a different Filipino dialect), or he’s lived in the United States so long that it’s affected his Tagalog accent.", "Why tf didn't they give you a stool?", "[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keXcDRT7jb4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keXcDRT7jb4)\n\nThis sounds like The Platters version of 16 tons.", "Jeff bezos’ portrayal is still exaggerated in the show", "Mandatory [Joe Versus the Volcano](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jg047oJf1B4) version", "Lmao why are you wasting your time engaging with an account that's a day old. Dude's clearly trolling", "I feel like there’s a lot of random “facts” being thrown out here without any proof or real information. I work for Amazon and nothing you’re talking about sounds real. Yes it’s a tough job, but nothing crazier than any other warehouse or unskilled labor job out there. You literally get benefits on your first day lol. I’m super curious about the 18 month design to make you quit. Amazon sucks for a lot of reasons but at least make sure they’re real when you say them", "Ngl thought Shaq was my friend until he went to bat for Papa Johns", "[Taylorism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_management) is to thank for that. Heard it referred to in the modern age as Neo-Taylorism or Bezosism.\n\nThankfully, Taylorism is quite illegal in federal facilities like the one I work in. (Thanks, U.S. Navy) That and we're unionized. Every day I grow a little more grateful that I don't have to work for Amazon.", "I’ll be telling others to pee in bottles.", "**[Scientific management](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_management)** \n \n >Scientific management is a theory of management that analyzes and synthesizes workflows. Its main objective is improving economic efficiency, especially labor productivity. It was one of the earliest attempts to apply science to the engineering of processes to management. Scientific management is sometimes known as Taylorism after its pioneer, Frederick Winslow Taylor.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)", "If I ever sell a food product, I think I'll add \"made with ingredients\" to the bullet point list on the back of the box.", "Jesus fuck that was bleak.", "You get full benefits day 1 on the floor at an FC. \n\nAnd as for benefits, I get health insurance, dental, vision, disability insurance(on top of normal disability). \n\nAlso, right now we are in MET (mandatory overtime) at 55 hours a week. With our OT all being double OT. So currently making roughly 45$ an hour at the FC.", "You didn't read your own link?", "A regular jerb*", "Glad I'm not the only one. And the song is like this lazy half-singing half-talking that just sounds really uninspired. And yeah weird wonky artwork. Something is off about it", "The people and jobs that inspired this song often lived in tents or shanty homes, had little to eat, and did back breaking and dangerous labor.\n\nWhat's shown here is ridiculous. Middle class home, all the luxuries, complaining it's like the coal miners of old.", "The series of \"long long man\" ads are definitely not soulless.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/6-1Ue0FFrHY", "Not only that, but they may be thinking sure after 18 months if you've shown no drive to move up to a red stripe vest or even blue, then yeah probably not a job to stick around.\n\nAt my FC they are pushing hard for any decent worker to move up. The only ones they leave working entry positions are people who either can't make rate, are lazy, or don't have good work ethic.", "Yeah, they're going to draw it out till the bitter end just to reveal it was planned. Like with Jennifer Lopez.", "Well not happy, but they will still do it.", "Minimum wage increases have been passed by vote twice in 25 years. It's buying power hasn't matched time so feeling good about $15 is an illusion.", "I want to know what the alternative would be. Fake ingredients? Hypothetical ingredients?", "Its insane how close they got it. Amazon was easily one of the most mind killing jobs ive ever had. The only thing that I was appreciative of was learning to drive a lift, it has come in handy.", "I believe at the time that Papa Johns CEO got revealed as a racist lunatic Shaq already owned dozens of franchise locations of Papa Johns. It was certainly in his own best interest to become the new face for the company and I’m sure he was well compensated beyond just helping the stores he already owned from tanking in value. That situation is difficult because it really wasn’t fair for a bunch of small business owners, franchisees, to suffer from a boycott when they aren’t the ones going on racist tirades.", "The one where where they say: \"The pay is...\" *minor pause* \"... awesome\" sounds so insincere", "Why are you wasting your time too?", "There's a difference. I don't begrudge a small-time actor doing commercials, everyone has to make a living.\n\nBut people like Terry Crews, Matthew McConaughey, etc. These people have enough money but they can't resist making even more money by shoving shit down our throats. They know it's trash and they know it's bullshit but they just go 'well I can't say no to this many millions for an hour of work' and willingly participate.\n\nI don't have to respect that.", "My reaction was oh wow a filipino going into nursing how out of\nThe ordinary /s", "Right? People are just describing work in general, lol.", "> and choose to use it\n\nBecause of a lack of choice. That's not choosing. If Amazon is the only one providing something, or the cheapest one doing it (which has to be their primary metric for choosing since Amazon pays slave wages) then there is no choice.\n\nIt's the 'gun to the head' defence. Amazon isn't literally putting a gun to their heads and making them shop there, but not doing it is impossible.", "It's at least very different. Kind of like starting its own thing. Like how the Spider-Man movies keep restarting.", "Amazon warehouse work is not factory job, it's a warehouse job. Amazon pays average warehouse worker wages, or little over. Starting wage is now $18/hour.", "Best scene is the one with a family eating in a diner, the wife and kids worried about Manbearpig and the dad going 'he's not here, those other people who got eaten by Manbearpig should've been more careful'. Then Manbearpig barges in and rampages through the diner and the man goes 'well he's here now, nothing we can do about it, there's no way we could've known' before getting visciously mauled.", "I haven’t seen the news Resident Evil, but I’m guessing it’s more like Flint", "Yeah except they still underpay their warehouse workers, close down unionized competitors, and stifle wage growth. https://www.fastcompany.com/40525961/what-happens-when-an-amazon-warehouse-opens-lower-wages-no-new-jobs", "You think him doing Brooklyn 99 for NBC/Comcast is high art? \n\nDude making a living same as rest of us. He just makes a lot more. He wasn't a saint before the Amazon commercial. He ain't an asshole after.", "Well shit. That does put a whole different spin on things. I do feel for all these people that get caught up in this shit when free wheeling racist windbags decide to speak for everyone. Guess I could shoot him a text to let him know I'm not mad anymore.", "Except that automation is always just coming in the 'near future'.\n\nThey keep over-estimating the pace of R&D and underestimating the pace of burnout.\n\nWhen the industrial revolution first started, the same fucking thing happened. What wound up happening is workers would sabotage production. That's where we got the term \"Saboteurs\" from. Apocryphally, it was workers throwing shoes into machinery. In reality, it was workers intentionally putting no effort into their work that was necessary for the production process. The machines still needed input and output, after all. And if they were slow on the input, and slow on handling the output...", "Curious what you mean by it’s illegal in federal facilities? Coincidentally I had skimmed that same article a few days ago and if memory serves, Scientific management was just trying to use numbers to inform decision making to optimize a business? Or is it more the inhuman part. Appreciate you bringing it up", "I think this pretty realistic cartoon right here is kind of suggesting that's already a thing. I mean all Amazon needs to own is the house, providing Amazon Utilities and Amazon Wifi, and then they're basically running the worker's entire life, start to finish.", "This makes no sense. You can go to Walmart or Target to get the exact same shit. Hell, they’ll also send it to you via delivery. Amazon is not a monopoly by any stretch of the word. \n\nWhen a service is really good (like Amazon), people want to use it. As Andrew Yang put it, no one wants to use the 3rd best search engine on the web. Amazon has unlimited selection, good prices (not the best), and extremely good delivery. Use it - don’t use it. I don’t care. But this idea where you use Amazon but complain about it is just nonsensical. Take some responsibility for your actions. *Poor old me! I have to use Amazon. But all their other customers are trash.* Lol wat?", "It's basically just slavery except they give you money at the start of the day and take it back by the end.", "For real yo. I deliver mail to aircraft carriers sometimes and half of it is Amazon packages", "Hank Scorpio was a parody 30 years ahead of his time. The nice fun billionaire, pleasant to talk to and secretly destroying the world behind your back.", "The problem with old company towns was that everything in the town was owned by the company. They didn't even need to pay their employees. Employees would buy everything they needed from the company store and rent their housing from the company. Everything was set up so that they wouldn't need to carry cash as everything they purchased would go on the company's books and be deducted from their paychecks. They never got paid since they always ended up owing more than they made. It was effectively slavery hidden by an accounting trick. Amazon isn't quite that bad, but it's closer than anything else in the modern day.", "/r/ABoringDystopia", "Imaginary ingredients.", "You don't become a billionaire by having a conscience.", "Buying goods is a massive scale effort. A few individuals do decide to go with their heart rather than bandwagoning with the two major parties. Boycotting a company is not a lot different from voting libertarian or Green Party or whatever.", "Inorganic juice, rocks! Or GMO free salt. :p", "All Amazon has to do is own the house, with Amazon Wifi and Amazon Utilities and Amazon Gas in your Amazon car, and then they own the worker's entire life. I mean, I don't think company stores ever owned the music going into your earbuds on your lunch break. This is just an unprecedented degree of control.", "esta divertido", "Theyre not necessarily evil, just a side effect of having massive plants. You cant just shove an Amazon distribution center in downtown New York, you need the floor space. So you build it 20 miles out of NYC, get workers, and those workers will inevitably try to live as close to their place of work as possible, and then you end up with a company town.", "It's better because they can afford to be better. They own the worker's entire life vertical, from their food shopping to their entertainment to their credit card. They aren't so much paying you as they are running your life for you.", "It’s much more faithful to the games, specifically RE2 from everything I’ve seen.", "In my local grocery store nearly all the checkout lines are automated now. There's only ever more than one checker on really busy days.", "Wasn't even 30 years ahead of his time; he was just always Richard Branson.\n\nRichard Branson just got old, so now he's Elon Musk.", "[https://silo.tips/download/scientific-management-and-the-us-navy-congress-bans-taylorism](https://silo.tips/download/scientific-management-and-the-us-navy-congress-bans-taylorism)\n\nWorth a read, but to summarize most of it: the U.S. Navy took interest in Taylor's style of management, and attempted to implement in their facilities. Overall it improved production, but at what cost? That paper mostly details the history of it and how the U.S. government got involved.\n\nThe wiki page I linked has some more information about why/how it was banned:\n\n>A committee of the U.S. House of Representatives investigated and reported in 1912, concluding that scientific management did provide some useful techniques and offered valuable organizational suggestions,\\[need quotation to verify\\] but that it also gave production managers a dangerously\\[how?\\] high level of uncontrolled power.\\[21\\] After an attitude survey of the workers revealed a high level of resentment and hostility towards scientific management, the Senate banned Taylor's methods at the arsenal.\\[21\\] \nTaylor had a largely negative view of unions, and believed they only led to decreased productivity.\\[22\\] Efforts to resolve conflicts with workers included methods of scientific collectivism, making agreements with unions, and the personnel management movement.\\[23\\] \n> \n> \n> \n>Owing to \\[application of \"scientific management\"\\] in part in government arsenals, and a strike by the union molders against some of its features as they were introduced in the foundry at the Watertown Arsenal, \"scientific management\" received much publicity. The House of Representatives appointed a committee, consisting of William B. Wilson, William C. Redfield and John Q. Tilson to investigate the system as it had been applied in the Watertown Arsenal. In its report to Congress this committee sustained Labor's contention that the system forced abnormally high speed upon workmen, that its disciplinary features were arbitrary and harsh, and that the use of a stop-watch and the payment of a bonus were injurious to the worker's manhood and welfare. At a succeeding session of Congress a measure \\[HR 8665 by Clyde Howard Tavenner\\] was passed which prohibited the further use of the stop-watch and the payment of a premium or bonus to workmen in government establishments.\\[17\\] — John P. Frey. \"Scientific Management and Labor\". The American Federationist. XXII (1): 257 (January 1916)\n\nOver a century ago, we figured out that this style of management is brutal and inhumane, but modern corporatism doesn't play by the same rules.\n\ne: Made some edits for clarification/grammar.", "You should watch Pom Poko by Studio Ghibli. It has the same exact message and is one of the most depressing movies I've seen.", "Only in the same way that a rotten dead cow littered with maggots is worse than a non-maggoty rotten dead cow is.", "Needs some additional shots of employees pissing in empty soda bottles on the packing line, and waiting in line for metal detectors and getting cavity searched at the end of every day.\n\nThe song was perfect though.", "Yeah, but he was a pretty great boss to Homer.", "And they *did* get a lot better! Pretty much went from worst chain pizza to best.", "There is a diffrence between a actor playing a role and \"im terry cruz and amazon is bussin\"", "Victor CHAOS", "It very much is the pay too. Warehouse jobs typically pay around $20 an hour as opposed to Amazon's fifteen, even more if their unionized", "They’re a real thing (were a real thing in America) and the song in this clip is actually referring to them", "Yeah, but that doesn't negate the fact that what you said was wrong - you are comparing the pay of two different jobs and then you say \"well shit, it's still an issue\". Fair enough, but give us the real comprable warehouse pay./", "So we gave them the businesses, we gave them the resources, we gave them the our labor and now we should be expected to give them the right to evict us if we are fired from our job? Company Towns are the epitome of greed, the company OWNs you at that point. If you fuck up at your job, congrats, you are homeless now and get to try to not be. We don't want these companies to keep centralizing their power, we can't allow that to happen. Too many are buried in unmarked graves that gave their lives so we didn't have to live in company towns using company script.", "This made me so fucking depressed.\n\nFuck you South Park.\n\nAlso,\n\nThank you South Park!", "15$ an hour? That isn't what I make at my FC. My starting pay is 21.75. With double OT it is nearly 45$ an hour.", "Twice the pay and twice the accident rate.", "Yeah I used the wrong word. My bad. I edited my post replacing “factory” with “warehouse” since that was the point I was trying to make. Now no one will get caught up in the semantics. Thank you for pointing this out.", ">Humans are really not made for these types of mindless/repetitive task jobs. There is nothing intellectually stimulating about package boxes every day, or doing the same task over and over again. \n\nIt depends on the person. I know a lot of people who did assembly line work for decades and were very happy with their jobs. Really a lot of it depends on the people you work with whether those jobs are unbearable or enjoyable.", "Restoring? They still exist and are quite popular. Never heard of Toyota, Japan?\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota,_Aichi", "Damn so true, so true. We all need $35/hour to have a LIVING wage. smh smh", "It's only a company town if the company also owns all the homes, the stores those employes shop in, etc. (Thus the \"Company store\" reference in the song.)\n\nWhat you've illustrated is more a town with a single major employer.", "I stopped using Amazon about 3 years ago, to be honest the things i get elsewhere online are better quality and packaged better, and thats the only difference. I also cancelled Audible and stopped using twitch once i knew they were amazon owned. If Bozos can be that rich and not pay workers a living wage he deserves nothing.", "So... Homeopathic stuff?", "Easy. I'm not a consumer whore.", "99% of the people here would absolutely take the opportunity to make a few hundred grand for working half a day no matter who paid them.", "Yup, it’s just a marketing angle. Like “It’s toasted” in the old tobacco ads (all brands were toasted).", "It’s not impossible to not use amazon, don’t be ridiculous.", "I didn't personally have an issue with the old pizza, but I like the changes they made", "You don't purchase goods?", "This is the saddest fucking thing I’ve ever seen", "Honestly since everyone expects that, the better joke would be to go a different way with it. Like Cartman is so Jewish that Kyle now hates jews; maybe even joins a hate group.", "Eh. I never really felt that they took much ownership for that. I think they have a very 'holier than thou' attitude. Like I can still see them blaming Al Gore for not doing a better job of convincing them earlier. I still love many of the older Southpark episodes, but find the newer ones just don't hit right rewatching them. I also have to say their unapologetic racism towards Asians is fairly disgusting.", "Flint still doesn't have clean drinking water.", "I overdosed on my homeopathic medicine once. I wasn't taking it. :(", "\"Vegan Flour\"", "Cartman became jewish so that Kyle could hates jews himself, in turn hate himself", "> I'm surprised how serious this was\n\nlol, watch the whole episode. You have a mutilated union leader that lives as a prime box and Bezos as a big brain telepathic alien from 1950's scifi.", "\"Made with real ingredients\" doesn't even mean anything. Artificial ingredients are still real. Unless someone as figured out how to use \"imaginary ingredients,\" it's all real ingredients.", "> because there's no time to do anything else. Going to a bike store and picking out a horn\n\nIn some cases you can't even go to a store for what you need. So you aren't left with many options.", "Depends where. During the industrial revolution towns like Saltaire, Bournville etc were models", "Most of that is due to Amazon exploiting poor labour laws. Amazon in other countries = much better experience.\n\nEdit: Most Amazon criticism is from US Amazon because of the poor labour laws - hope that is a better explanation.", "You mean NBC/Universal/Comcast/Time/Warner? He was already working for 5 shitty companies and now a 6th?", "How exactly do they do this? What if someone doesn’t quit? Also how do you know they do this?", "Oh shit, he did it for his own self-interest? What an asshole! /s", "In the end, what’s the difference? To the worker I mean, not the economy.", ">Aren't they literally trying to build Amazon company towns right now? Like that's never gone wrong before...\n\nIt works, just ask Kohler", "A bit of a minimalist, honestly. I dated a French girl for a while that got me into valuing experiences over things. So now I have a small wardrobe of high quality items that generally all mix and match each other. I buy Arc'teryx or other high quality brands from REI or small niche shops in the big city. I trail run and play soccer for fun, so I buy those from the local running store. My brother works at Costco and raves about how great they treat him so I buy a lot of food or, say a rice cooker from them, buy computer parts from newegg, and spend money visiting people or places. There's a few trains of thought that I go by: how am I voting with my money? Am I spending money at places that treat their employees poorly? Can I buy the same product manufactured in say Germany instead of China? (Yes, I just bought a Metabo nailgun instead of a Chinese brand) Is what I'm buying really necessarily? And am I making sure to buy high quality so I can make this purchase last for as long as possible? Works out really well.", "Satire can only happen in a logical world", "Being perfectly honest if I was well paid and my boss was anything like Hank I'd be willing to whatever. Don't matter if I'm directly or indirectly helping him build a death laser I'll just keep my head down and get paid.", "You sound like you work at an international facility, you sound to positive.\n\nI worked for Amazon for 10 years. YMMV based upon the country and FC you work at.", "This is from your link...", "You don't have to work there or use Amazon to buy things", "This song helped create unions.", "Not intractable, just entrenched.", "But it's not really the same at all, and pretending it is is washing over how bad it was for coal miners back in the day. \n\nThe money Amazon employees get paid can be used anywhere. The money coal miners got paid could only be used at the company store. Amazon employees spend the money at Amazon because they choose to do so - they think they are getting cheaper prices/faster shipping/more convenience/etc. than they would elsewhere. But if they wanted to they could spend that money at any other store, save it, gamble it away, whatever they want to do with it. \n\nOn the other hand coal miners literally could go nowhere else with their money and had to accept whatever prices the company store were posting. They would literally get in debt to the company store and wouldn't be able to leave the coal mine until they made enough money to pay off that debt (i.e. never).\n\nChoosing to use Amazon because it is the best option for you as a consumer is very very different than being forced to use the company store because literally don't have other options.", "That’s when the Pinkertons come back", "Typical dumb fuck who thinks anyone that has a problem with exploitation is a \"college student\".", "In my town there's a Walmart in a plaza RIGHT across the street from a trailer park, so, it's not THAT farfetched.", "First, Matthew McConaughey and Terry Crews aren't anywhere near each other in pay level. 2nd, actors really have to make hay why the sun shines, while MM has been able to work for decades, most who make it will only have a short window of time when they're a hot commodity. And they have to live in LA London or NYC usually which is mad expensive.\n\nIf it isn't them it will be some other actor so why would they pass it up. But I agree it makes me like them less. Like, I always thought Kate McKinnon was overrated as heck but I literally cannot stand the sight of her since she started shilling for Verizon.", "It's reddit so...no.", "I guess the original addiction episode is the cheesing one (amazing episode btw!)? What episode do they revisit addiction? I'd be interested in checking that one out and rewatch the cheesing one while I'm at it!", "Imagine how many meeting it took to come up with Shaqaroni", "Made out of real ingredients. \"Made with\" means there's at least one thing that isn't artificial.", "Sometimes the simplest solution isn't obvious.", "Wait the company is the bad guy for giving you a 13k moving bonus instead of a 10k bonus?", "It's reddit so any opportunity to shit on \"the west\" is taken.", "Here's an airsoft gun, and here's a bb gun. You get to choose which one to shoot yourself in the face with. Whichever you choose, you chose because it was better than the alternative and therefore you aren't allowed to complain. Because logic.", "do you read through an entire Wikipedia page every time you link one?", "Probably think it’ll make people lazy. They only care about overhead and profit. Not people", "Homeless person becomes mail box.", ">It was effectively slavery hidden by an accounting trick. Amazon isn't quite that bad, but it's closer than anything else in the modern day.\n\n​\n\nHave you heard of the labor practices in the middle east? That's a LOT closer to slavery than working for Amazon warehouses.", "Well I usually scroll through it before making a claim about the topic I’m linking…", "I don't think the Papa John's guy is as much a racist as an alcoholic without a social filter.", "What the fuck is America suppose to do? There are a number of items that I can only find on Amazon.", "i don’t see what your point is lol", "Do you even have a job?", "Do they? Local owned businesses are always the ones trying to avoid doing anything legally required such as accident reporting", "By typical dumb fuck i guess you mean someone who has done better than you at everything you’ve done your entire life because I’m not a mouth breathing idiot, yes. Blocked", "I hate these ads with the white hot intensity of a thousand suns", "More like here’s an airsoft gun and here’s a well paying job that hundreds of thousands of people voluntarily are taking, only for 20 year old unemployed incels who use their mom’s credit card for twitch subs and onlyfans to complain about the jobs", "[Most jobs in society are like this](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wage_slavery), they're just removing the illusion of choice.", "Ha, this guy thinks company towns are a \"Western\" thing. The good old myth of the non-western world somehow being a different, less complicated, non-greedy or spiritual one. Yes, complete hogwash but hey it's a lasting myth. Meanwhile caste systems and strict hierarchies existed that made reliance on the company town seem small and limited in scale. But hey, this is **exactly** what everyone wanted. Whether they realized it or not. \n\nWelcome to your future Employee 142001-Q. Don't forget to take the General Electric High Speed Train to your housing alloted by the Determined Needs Council. Remember, it's Monday tommorow. Time for the Potassium supplement.", "**[Wage slavery](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wage_slavery)** \n \n >Wage slavery is a term used to describe a situation where a person's livelihood depends on wages or a salary, especially when the wages are low and person has few realistic chances of upward mobility. The term is sometimes used to criticise exploitation of labour and social stratification, with the former seen primarily as unequal bargaining power between labour and capital (particularly when workers are paid comparatively low wages, e. g. in sweatshops) and the latter as a lack of workers' self-management, fulfilling job choices and leisure in an economy.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)", "While Cartman picked on Butters and messed with him by doing horrible things like getting a his parent to abusive him, faking the world ending, etc. Butters parents are straight up abusive constantly to Butters. Him mom tries to murder him, they beat him, they send him to a conversion therapy camp where the kids are constantly killing themselves, his parents constantly yell at him and punish him for made up nonsense, Butters gets put in jail and drugged into admitting a crime he didn’t do, and the parents responsive is to blame Butters, they try and sell him to Paris Hilton, he gets conned into lipo surgery and the parents send him to his room and not a hospital, and the list keeps going on", "That one sounds very different from the one in South Park. \n\nIt's the Tennessee Ernie Ford version", "(ingredients)^2 = a negative number", "Sounds really lovely to get a 13k moving bonus!\n\nEdit: there is no such thing as your company paying your taxes, they still count as income you are taxed against, they are just paying you a hire amount", "Personally I think it's going to be that he's the unvaccinated person. That Clyde's just lying and actually has gotten the vax. Cartman refused to get the vax but figured that jews didn't have to for some reason (because he's Cartman) and he's just continuing the con.", "That's fucking depressing.", "How many times is this falsehood going to keep repeated?", "Idk man, Jets is damn good. Jets > the rest.", "Yeah, because you would have said no because of your *morals*. \n\nLet's drop the BS.", "Where?", "Too positive? I just laid out my experience so far. Columbus, Ohio. I say good because I haven't run into the horror stories the internet always talks about. I wish we could wear earbuds. They say no for safety reasons, but you can't hear shit in the wharehouse anyway. The best part of the job though, hands down is no dealing with customers.", "For what it's worth, Toyota has done this in Japan. They are actually doing it AGAIN on Mt. Fuji as a hydrogen powered / alternative energy city. It can work. But American greed makes it nearly impossible to do stateside.", "also American prisons.", "You can vote for people other than the president. And depending on where you live, those local elections don't get much attention or turnout. Dedicated groups of people sway elections all the time.\n\nA couple hundred people boycotting Amazon in your small city probably doesn't make a difference. That same group going to the polls and organizing actually can affect the outcome of an election.", "Is there any upward movement possibilities at all? Like could you be promoted to shift manager and keep climbing the ladder? Were your bosses trying to move up a ladder or were they also just there to make a paycheck? I find this all so fascinating for some reason, any info you got I'd love to hear.\n\nOh and how are you tracked? if you slipped below 260 would someone speak to you to pick it up? Do you get bonuses for packing more?", "Not giving a shit about anyone, giving near constant feedback on speed, forcing people to pee themselves or lose their jobs, no on site HR (HR is an automated phone service), generally being shitty until people naturally snap and quit around the 18 month mark.", "An RN can work at a variety of different kinds of places. Amazon employees can work for amazon.", "Sounds rather whorish to me", "He even encouraged naps on the job. That's a very open minded boss. \n\nHammocks? My goodness, what an idea. Why didn't I think of that? Hammocks! Homer, there's four places. There's the Hammock Hut, that's on third...", "I see your Joe vs the Volcano reference and I applaud it.", "Plus he'll buy you a football team and send you down to the hammock shop where the owner gets into the hammock with you.", "Oh at the Hammock District?", "Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeell.......", "So not much different from 4 out of 10 Americans now who are not able to save $400 for emergencies...\n\nhttps://time.com/nextadvisor/banking/savings/us-saving-rate-soaring/", "You should read up on pullman trains, there is A HILARIOUS podcast called the dollop that talks about it.", "bLoCkEd", "John Peters, you know, the farmer? And his entirely imaginary crop of apples.", "Ok", "> They didn't even need to pay their employees. Employees would buy everything they needed from the company store and rent their housing from the company. \n\nSo they do need to pay them, just in food/housing/whatever \"stuff\" they can buy from the company store. The objectionable part is the mandatory deductions and/or low wages, not really the \"company store\" part.", "Oh, yeah, it's the worst. My favorite part was being asked to take in carts or do odd jobs. They'd always apologize, but I was like SCORE!", "While watching this video I received a message through my Amazon work app lmao", "Starting wage is not 18/hr for fulfillment associates my guy. It is 15/hr. The only people getting paid 18/hr or more in the warehouse have worked there a few years. Or it is in a state where the minimum wage is higher then 15/hr. But the starting wage is most definitely 15/hr for fulfillment associates across the country. Not 18.", "Butters doesn’t even stop smiling when his dad says that to him. Perfect Butters moment.", "Okay I don’t know the guy maybe I should say “was revealed saying racist lunatic things” instead of saying that he is a racist lunatic.", "No, the company wrote a check for 13k that was was taxed to 10k. He got the money upfront but only has to pay it back if he leaves before the selected time period.", "I work at Amazon, and do not buy my food, entertainment, or use a credit card, from Amazon. What the fuck are you on about?", "Yeah, if you rewrite his comment and make a few substitutions, you just described how it works for americans living paycheck to paycheck.\n\n>The problem with ~~old company towns~~ the US was that everything in the ~~town~~ country was ~~owned by the company~~ part of the economy. They didn't even need to pay their employees. Employees would buy everything they needed from the ~~company store~~ economy and rent their housing from the ~~company~~ economy. Everything was set up so that they wouldn't need to carry ~~cash~~ gold as everything they purchased would go on the ~~company's~~ the bank's books and be deducted from their paychecks. They never got paid since they always ended up owing more than they made. It was effectively slavery hidden by an accounting trick.", "This is like the opening to [Joe Vesus the Volcano](https://youtu.be/jg047oJf1B4?t=35). Very good movie by the way.", "More importantly, before making a negative blanket judgement about huge geographical regions or groups of people...", "Do you think there aren't people working at Amazon that could have possibly lived in a tent, been starving, and worked back breaking labor??? Or that you can't have back breaking labor at Amazon???\n\n\nTIL Starvation and homelessness only existed in post WW1 America\n\n\nAlso, do you think Amazon employees are owning \"middle class homes\" with the 15/hr wage??? I work at a fulfilment center, and the only people who own a home or have a nice house with decent rent have a spouse with a better job. Most of us have roommates my man.", "Yeah exactly, that's just objectively better for him than the company writing a check for $10k that was taxed down to $7-8k. So yeah, of course he doesn't mind lol and I'm sure the company would be happy to pay him less if he asked. \n\nI'm just not sure how that example is supposed to show anything other than the company being nice and making the quoted moving bonus post-tax instead of the expected pre-tax.", "Finally!!", "This video gets me incredibly angry. Fuck Amazon fuck capitalism. Unionize Now. If they don’t change, REVOLUTION.", "lol", "I think you're missing the point of the skit. The song is about coal miners who risked life and limb, lived in shacks, and tended to die young. Amazon workers are paid a good wage and work in a comparatively safe and comfortable environment. But to hear people talk about Amazon online, you'd think they were worse off than the coal miners in the song.\n\nAnd I know I'm going to get flak for this, but consider the fact that the bare minimum wage for an entry level worker with a high school education is over $30k per year. That means Amazon provides a two income family with close to the median household income, and after a couple of years they can easily be making more than median household income. And in most places, having a household income of $60k - $80k per year isn't bad at all for someone that never went to college.", "In the month I worked there, I think I made quota once. Like I said before, as long as you are there, and working, there really isn't any punishment. They aren't going to fire you as long as you are doing your job right. Because where one may be under expectations, there is usually one or two people who are hitting well over to balance it out. As long as the entire group doesn't lay down. Honestly, if the employee's wanted to send a message, this is what they'd do. Just lay down, and nobody hit expected numbers. But to send that message effectively you need every single person in your group to do so. Hard to do, but would be more effective than a union push. As far as their tracking, it's just an simple system of how many did you fully complete. Sign in, get to scanning, when the grading is complete, add another to your count. I believe they expect 26-27 returns an hour processed. Doesn't seem like much, but sometimes you have to count quantities, plug things in, or put in batteries. \n\nCan you advance? I think so. But I believe you need to be there a year or X amount of times. After 30 days in your first position you can transfer if available. But as far as moving up, I'm not sure. My leaders seemed to be happy where they were. They weren't bad leaders either, but were hung up on overall numbers. \"I need more from you\" is all I ever heard. Well, I was more focused on doing the job right. Checking the boxes and any product that was powered to make sure it was working properly. I can't tell you how many times I would get a return that had no mention of defects/non-function only to find they didn't work. Or vise versa where they mention a defect, but it's more of an opinion than a defect.", "I mean he could always just order from another online store, like Walmart, Ebay, etc.", "If you don't want to work a boring job, stay in school. It's not like flipping burgers at McDonald's or ringing people up at 7-11 offers more fulfillment.", "Is this the same bs radio commercial where they say Amazon is one of the highest rated places to work in America. Besides their own commercials, I e never heard a single positive thing about working there.", "Not evil, and Eastern world has them too. It turns out that economic sources of activity from businesses end up bringing towns with them, since they have jobs and people.", "You're ignorant for including specifiers when you don't know if they are exclusive, especially as an attempt to slander that group.", "Seriously", "They didn't even need to pay their employees. Employees would buy everything they needed from the company store and rent their housing from the company.", "Google has almost the same employee turnover as Amazon, and they haven't run out of workers. I'd be surprised if McDonald's has a lower turnover, and they haven't run out of labor yet. Walmart is able to find employees, despite burning through 700,000 US employees every year.", "Well here's more for you then. My dad died at 58 of a heart attack almost 3 years ago to the day. He had been working at his Amazon fufillment job that day and collapsed from exhaustion at work trying to fill Christmas orders. He was sent home and died that night in his bedroom. I was listed as an emergency contact but never got a phone call when he didn't show up to work the next couple days. I unfortunately found him at his home 4 days after the fact and called Amazon to try and find out what had happened. It took forever to get through to the right people and when I did finally get a call back it was a pathetic \"cover our ass\" narrative and that's it. I never got to say goodbye to my dad, I had to do my own digging to find out wtf happened, and am left with uncontrollable hopelessness when all anyone can ever fucking talk about is Amazon and their ludicriously wealthy CEO. Fuck everything about that place.", "Or like breakfast cereals being \"part of a complete breakfast\". Noone is keeping track of what is or isn't considered a \"complete breakfast\", it's a completely subjective statement. Chewing on a piece of plywood and swallowing horse laxatives is part of a complete breakfast if you want it to be (though many wouldn't be quick to agree with you).", "That was so good.", "Don't expect people on here to understand what they're talking about dude! Are you crazy?", "I'm actually a little disappointed that Trey and Matt picked the most obvious song possible. Had the song not been highlighted by Fallout 76, I'd have been more impressed.", "You missed the whole point of the skit. The Amazon workers get mistreated and rushed on every order. They get penalized if they try to go to the bathroom and some have resorted to peeing in bottles or wear adult diapers. They get rushed because of how fast they have to ship their orders. So they have to get employees to work an order a minute. If someone gets injured on the job it’s not Amazon’s fault, it’s the employees. The pay isn’t the problem, it’s the hazardous work environment and the system that fires you for mundane reasons.\n\nAnd did you notice how how he kept buying things from Amazon? He’s buying things from the company store and still has to pay for a Amazon services. Because he has no other option but to buy from Amazon, he has to buy it at whatever price they have it at. He goes to work just to pay off that order and continues the process.", "Because they literally don’t give two shits about their employees. I worked at an FC packing peoples orders. There was an occasion where one week there wasn’t any items coming in so there wasn’t a lot to pack so we would just be standing there. I, as well as others, would take that chance to sit on the floor a bit to give my legs a rest, and without fail someone would come around within a few minutes and tell everyone that they need to be standing. Other times the conveyor belt we push packages to would break down. They would still have us packing and just stacking boxes around each other. Which keep in my where you pack is just like a slim hallway where everyone is at arms length at most. So we would just be in this tiny space surrounded with boxes not being able to move and them still getting on us to keep packing. \n\nI also worked at their delivery sortation center as well for a little. There they would have us pack these big bags which could weigh up to 50lbs. We would stack up to 9 bags 3 high onto carts and push them out to the delivery vans. Mind you I’m not very tall so a lot of times I would have to pick these huge bags up and over my head multiple times a day to get them on top of the stack. One day my arm was just killing me i couldn’t rotate it at all. So I asked a manager if I could do something else for the day. He immediately in the most smug way just told me “No you can’t have special treatment”. I was so pissed off for the rest of the day. It wasn’t like I was asking to take the day off or do nothing. Luckily for me it was the last day of my work week and just half assed the work for the day. \nThey love to spout constantly about how their #1 priority is the safety and care of their employees which is utter bs.", "The name 'fulfillment' centre seems ...... inaccurate.", "I've worked with folks from Ohio and they speak fondly about some of the state rules which protect its workers. Glad its been good so far.", "To be fair, of Japan it says:\n\n> In Japan, an equivalent to company towns are \"Kigyō Jōkamachi\" (企業城下町 , Company castle town). However, these differ from company towns in that the companies do not own nor have developed these towns themselves. Instead, the term refers to towns where a specific company has a major influence on the town's economy as a result of that company or its subcontractors employing a significant part of the town's population.\n\nWhich is different than building a town for workers and then running the town specifically to minimize the wealth leaving the leaving the company.", "Critical thinking just ain't your thing, eh?", "the internet", "It's a right to work state so I wouldn't say it's the best at protecting workers.", "This is the best description I’ve read from someone so far. You got it exactly right especially how difficult it is to just be standing. Too often people think that just bcs you’re standing still it can’t be hard on the body. The thing that can make it even more soul crushing is in the winter where it gets darker earlier in the day. You go in bright and early in the morning and come out miserable to the dark cold night. You wouldn’t see the Sun other than when on your break and that’s only if you went to the break room with windows. There was only two at my fc and only one had windows. \n\nAll else I can say is that working in other Amazon buildings isn’t much better and just as miserable even when you do get to move around.", "I think you could still argue that assembly line work is slightly more diverse and challenging than warehouse work. Even in assembly they often do have different tasks, task rotations, sometimes some specific skill or decision making, etc.\n\nMeanwhile at warehouses you're often just putting thing A in box B for weeks, with no real need for any thought or stimulation. And on top of that a ton of extra time pressure and less interaction and downtime with colleagues due to cramped delivery times.", "Of course you're right. The $30+ they make at UPS is bankrupting the company while those employees are off living a nice middle-class life. \n\n/s", ">Some people try to deny it, but South Park really is a smart show\n\nI beg to differ, it goes from good satire to really awful satire where it hides behind the concept of it being just a joke.", "\"Oh, in the hammock district!\"\n\nWhat I always love about that joke is that Homer initially goes to Scorpio to find out where to buy hammocks yet somehow already knew that the town had a hammock district.", "Supposedly Albert Brooks improvised a lot of those lines, why Hank Scorpio's dialogue has a sort of looser feel to it", "Not necessarily true. My first 7 years or so in the job market were spent hopping between 20 or so different warehouses", "For people not of Appalachia:\n\nThe history of this song is of old mining towns- where the company even owned the stores. The workers were stuck buying everything they needed to survive there- and even in cases literally not even being paid in money, but [company scrip.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Company_scrip)\n\nWorkers were trapped economically: whatever wages were just reclaimed by the same company in groceries, clothes, or housing. You may even have to rent tools. The whole system regulated by the company to keep the workers impoverished, kicking off with an initial need to get a loan from the store to get started. Can't work without gear and a place to sleep. \n\nThis debt was designed to be impossible to pay off with a Sisyphean interest rate. The debt provided pretense to enforce abusive exploitation. After all, even just quitting would be tantamount to stealing. Already in debt and without advocates, miners were subjected to all manner of additional wage theft in the form of arbitrary penalties.\n\nThe parallels with Amazon is troubling. Grueling work with poverty pay, yet a company whose profits soar.", "In the coal mining communities in PA they were paid in scrip, company money, so they couldn't leave the community and spend their money elsewhere. Every dollar they made went right back to the company. But yes, I guess the company store itself wasn't the heart of the problem.", "Thank you for the response", "have you ever thought about carrying out an elaborate heist scheme?", "This has the song and same theme as the South Park scene but visually I feel like it still more closely resembles this. https://youtu.be/j7o9NdZVGgA\n\nThe quick pacing and closeups of the minutiae of corporate work is what made me think these are more similar in style. If you just replace the song with, \"16 Tons\" it's almost interchangeable.\n\nOr like this http://www.youtubemultiplier.com/61ad6c9c25126-breaking-bad-16-tons.php", "Sure, but I specifically mentioned what's shown in the video.", "The one from the video", "What shown in the video is called 'satire', ya know, it's a form of comedy??? Usually makes fun of stuff by exaggerating a bit while still maintaining some truth.\n\n\nUnless you think the characters from south park are actual real people? Then I got some news for ya bud", "No, they aren't.", "On the one hand I've got every single Amazon warehouse employee I've ever interacted with telling me the conditions are terrible. On the other hand I've got Amazon itself, and one angry redditor telling me how generous Amazon is for providing employees with an entire bathroom break per day and a livable wage.\n\nWho to believe...", "I think that basically they have very strong opinions that they put into the show a lot so it's mostly good for our time but it will not age well. In the future they will look at South Park and see a lot more than Manbearpig as an issue.", "It's so weird because literally just yesterday ive discovered this song listening to Spotify on random and today I see this video on my front page..", "I bothers me how many people will openly rip on Amazon and Bezos, but hardly anyone is willing to cancel their prime membership.", "That comment never gets old.\n\nCostco and REI are about as whorish as it gets as a consumer. Metabo is Japanese btw", "Nope. Everyone gets caught eventually. There's just no need to throw it away.", "I agreed at first but after hearing the three or 4 different version repeatedly before every one of the hundreds of YouTube videos I watch, it’s starting to grow on me. The lack of steady rhythm in the lyrics reminds me of [Along Comes Mary](https://youtu.be/URUd5RUAz1I), which also had the same effect on me. At first the lyrical melody just sounds random and it doesn’t flow but once you’ve heard it enough times for your brain to recognize the pattern, it starts to sound nice. I mean fuck Google of course but the songs are actually pretty creative and unique from the standard ABAB 4/4 mass produced garbage jingles.", "Nah, that's just offloading responsibility.\n\nAsk yourself; \"Am I part of the problem, or part of the solution?\"\n\n\nI'm willing to bet you don't litter, because if you did, you would be part of the problem. Quitting Amazon is an easy problem to not be a part of, just like littering.", "Don’t even worry I didn’t realize it at first either. I got so engrossed in the story and reading Amazon comments I forgot there was a post we were talking about.", "Yea dude, reread your comment and tell me what’s wrong with it. Blocked for trolling", "Nah, the bread's too sweet and their cheese is terrible. Decent toppings though", "Double the federal minimum wage is $14.50. That's not a living wage in most areas. I'd say the money is part of the problem too.", "By telling you? Lmao, my bad for trying to let you know, fuck you then", "And here we see another clown feeding the 1 Day old troll account", "No. What you saw was a click bait headline for an editorial that you didn't actually read. Took it as news and now you spread it on reddit for other lazy gullible people to then also accept it as fact.", "Dude it was a drive by comment that I could give a shit about, chill the fuck out", "apparently you didn't watch the video.", "I used to work at a fulfillment center in Charlotte, NC. They have these areas where excess employees will just kind of sit around until they can find a place to put you to work. \n\nOne day they just removed all the chairs from this area, and would yell at anyone sitting on the floor. It was far removed from machinery and foot traffic, so the excuse of \"It's a safety concern\" was straight up bullshit.", "I am going to ask you what you think that phrase means. Because Amazon is about busting unions, but I don't think you are thinking about union dues.", "Part of the turnover is the job conditions but another major part is that they will hire almost anyone. There is no barrier to entry besides a background check and a drug test that you will pass as long as you refrain from doing drugs for a day. A lot of the people they hire have never done any manual labor in their life.", "I'm not arguing that!", "More so when you age. I'm 37. I've worked in warehouses and factories for most of my adult life. I've gone home sore before, but never like this. I mean seriously, walking into the house like a hunched over old man with a cane after a 10 hr shift. Waking up after 6-7 hours of sleep with the same hunch. Back popping with every slight movement. Not to mention my knee occasionally hurting as well. But it got to a point where I just couldn't take it anymore. I reported the injury to the team leads, he understood, and I never came back to work after that. Basically I went home and resigned. Being in that much pain every night is unexceptionable in my opinion. \n\nI also want to mention how awful they are with time. Having 3 sets of usable time off, vacation/unpaid time off/personal time off. With in my first few weeks I was docked for over 16 hours of unpaid time. Only 4 hours should have been counted for that. HR is only available during your short lunch brake on top of that. It's total BS. Someone downvoted me on a reply to \"why don't they give you stools\", well like I said there, they really just don't care about their employee's. Just profits and overhead.", "When I worked at Toyota there was a robot mechanic that was taking home small bits of the robots. He'd resell them on ebay. Had 2 houses, both full of parts. When they finally pin-pointed exactly who it was, they waited on him to walk out that night. He had parts on him walking out the door, and volunteered the information about having 2 houses full of parts. Guy had done it for a long while. Eventually it caught up to him big time. Had a massive federal fine (because the factories are free-trade-zones) and is serving prison time. I think maybe 10 years? Possible more.", "You are right, the job is stupid easy. Their demands are a bit unrealistic, but the work is easy. If you are young and haven't completely destroyed your body, you stand a good chance to make it at Amazon. But if you are older, and have already worn your body down, it's really hard on it. Of course this all depends on where exactly you work at Amazon and what you do. But most jobs that have high turn over, are going to be rough on the body. And the 10hrs a night kind of sucks. I'd rather have 9 hour days with a 1hr lunch break. At least give the body time to relax halfway through.", "well, you are also not thinking about the other major issue of these types of towns. when a town is founded around a factory or single major employer, if that employer ever shuts it down the town essentially implodes on itself due to no real alternative income source for the townsfolk.", "Yep, I heard the classic casino chip theft stories of my places, as well as one while I was working at each one.", "🤡", "That would actually be the ultimate troll. A happy Jewish family with no ramifications for his horrible childhood.", "Scorpio didn't want to destroy the world, he wanted to take it over. He also treated his employees with kindness and respect, going out of his way to ensure their comfort and happiness.\n\nIf we've got a choice between a world run by Scorpio or a world run by Bezos, gimme Hank fuckin Scorpio any day of the week.", "I worked 3rd shift at a couple casinos. Worst part was the standing. Was a cage cashier. The only other part of the job is idiots and drunks. But the standing was something you never get used to. Every day it would hurt, but after the car drive home and that walk to my door you can really feel it.", "Well not getting paid much can't be wage slavery if it's possible to have other options. Most of the time private entities lack the control to keep you from moving elsewhere. Usually where I have seen this become literal is in parts of Oklahoma where Landlords get people jobs that barely pay them enough to make rent, ensuring that they can never leave.", "no worries. I didn't see someone else responded to you, so i almost felt like an asshole after reading it.", "Is that from a different source? On my phone and didn’t see it in there.", "I currently live in an old company town. The houses aren't owned by that company anymore, but they were built by them and housed their higher ups a century ago.", "If everyone in the world littered as their primary way of getting rid of trash, then you would need something more than a few people choosing not to. Those people wouldn't make a dent, they'd just be making things hard for themselves without effecting change. You would need widespread systemic action with organized structure and enforcement in order to make a difference.\n\nSaying that individuals are responsible and need to make change on their own accord is offloading the problem to people who have no chance of actually fixing it. The responsibility needs to be on people with the authority to organize the masses to effect and enforce change.\n\nIn the littering example, the solution is not for a few people to simply abstain from littering. The solution is for everyone to vote on laws that incentivize not littering, subsidize trash cleanup, and punish littering.", "The irony.", "When I read “26-27 returns and hour” and “not seem like much” I was shocked. That sounds like a TON!! It’s nearly a return processed every 2 minutes! If you have to open every package, check it, and count, plug in, etc. that would be nearly impossible for me. Especially when doing it hour after hour.", "What's wrong with working at a casino? Not arguing, just curious.", "I love this. Such a good song and it still holds up.", "> bLoCkEd\n\nbLoCkEd", "bLoCkEd", "It’s better than letting him talk to himself angrily over and over expecting a response from me. You should be able to relate", "You sure got me, jedi master!", "I expect satire from South Park.... not a freaking glimpse into my life for about a year from a while back... Damn, that was rough and realistic.", "I am quite aware of that, however it has nothing to do with the discussion of company towns. It's not that I'm not thinking of it; it's that it's off topic.\n\nI also happen to live in a town composed of several former villages that each no longer have their original major sole employer. Many towns had a major sole employer; we've moved on from the industries of 100, 200 and 300 years ago and so employers have shut down. People also can much easier daily commute 20 miles to NYC as opposed to 100 years ago. Towns can evolve. Not all do, but many manage; it's not correct to say that they all implode.", "to me, it didn't sound like much at first. My first few weeks I was well over expectations. But when they started expecting my numbers to rise, and they just stayed flat at about 210-230 a night, I really didn't care. Some nights you'll get favorable returns, easy returns, others you get stuck doing the crappy ones. Or catching a tote full of things that shouldn't even be there. So to re-sort them in the system, you get no credit for anything you've just wasted time doing. The further down the line you are, the less you can cherry pick totes full of easy small stuff. You're stuck doing the bigger items. Some things like an air bed aren't exactly easy to check.\n\nOne thing I did get a kick out of was playing with some of the toys. Gotta make sure they work! The fact that I put together a remote controlled dinosaur, and used it to scare the person working on the other side of me might have cost me a few minutes, but was totally worth it. Made me feel like a human again. But yeah, expecting people to process something open/test/repack every 2 minutes is a bit hard. And if you get something that's clearly never been opened (like lets say a board game still in the manufacture wrap) they still expect you to open it up and check. Not that I ever did, but still. Little things like that you could use to get your numbers up if needed. But I never cared about hitting those numbers personally. I'd get in the ballpark naturally working at a reasonable pace. If that's not good enough well then they could have fired me. I wouldn't have cared.", "It's like working at UPS where there is also very little possibility of promotion other than to part-time supervisor which is like being promoted to McDonalds manager in Hell, or the driver route which you have to beg to even be told about that usually has a waiting list about 500 people long who all have higher seniority in the union and will all be considered before you even if you were a former fighter jet pilot or something.\n\nBut Amazon takes it a step further and either conducted or found studies that show warehouse workers burn out or perform worse after about 3 years. So it's right in their official policy to try to move employees out by then. There's also like 1 promotable position open per year per like 1000 workers.", "Gave them what? What they paid for? Shit man you don't get land for free.\n\nAlso don't ever try camp work. They have armed guards that toss you on a plane/helo the second you dont work for the company anymore.", "Oh my, nice Pinochet reference. I'm sure everyone smiles when you walk into a room.", "Nobody makes people work there. When I didn't like a low paying shit job.... I quit.", "Arthur fortune was Branson", "There's a lot of warehouse jobs my guy. Not even counting the Fed-Ex and UPS fulfillment centers you have warehouses for everything you can think of from car parts to foodstuffs.", "> Plus he'll buy you a football team\n\nyeah but it's the Denver Broncos.", "They did win a super bowl recently.", "You just don't understand football Marge.", " I'm not saying every Amazon worker also has amazon music and amazon grocery. I'm saying they CAN own all those things.", "Well there's really two links, /u/N8CCRG's [Company town](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Company_town) which yes has [Company town #Japan](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Company_town#Japan) and /u/hates_stupid_people's [List of Company Towns](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_company_towns) which doesn't really contain much explanation on the concept or term. Not to nitpick about the difference, Toyota City appears in both pages.\n\nEdit per below: Toyota not Tokoyo", "Nothing, until the company flexes.\n\nIt's about control. I don't know how Amazon could fuck me over, but when they own everything except your back teeth, it's easy for them to.", "They do in fact. Twice industry average.\n\n[https://www.cbsnews.com/news/amazon-injury-rate-highest-among-warehouses-worker-groups-allege/](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/amazon-injury-rate-highest-among-warehouses-worker-groups-allege/)\n\n[https://www.cbc.ca/radio/day6/amazon-workplace-injuries-enforcing-privacy-laws-photographing-climate-change-hockey-in-north-korea-more-1.5376837/in-amazon-s-warehouses-injury-rates-are-twice-the-u-s-national-average-1.5376849](https://www.cbc.ca/radio/day6/amazon-workplace-injuries-enforcing-privacy-laws-photographing-climate-change-hockey-in-north-korea-more-1.5376837/in-amazon-s-warehouses-injury-rates-are-twice-the-u-s-national-average-1.5376849)", "Which Works wonders for the character.", "No, you aren't saying they CAN. You quite literally claimed Amazon is running it's employees lives. you claimed Amazon OWNS our lives. You even brought up vertical integration like Amazon has a monopoly on everything you mentioned. Which just isn't true.\n\n\nLook, working at Amazon can suck badly, but all you guys who never worked there just straight making shit up are not helpful, at all. A lot of the issues people have with the company are internal relating to management and such, the shit you see in the news is almost never accurate to the actually experience. Like the pissing in bottles, can't tell you how many Amazon FC associates rolled their eyes at that. The only reason anyone ever pissed in a bottle is because they are try Harding. They WANT to go fast and get good numbers. You don't have to piss in a bottle to be able to make the quotas. In fact, I took 4 15 minute long shits today and made my numbers all day by a lot, just fine.\n\n\nAnyways, your original comment is just so wildly inaccurate that it hurts. This south park skit is funny, but it's satire, not real. Amazon is nowhere near the level of company towns like you are trying to portray in your comment.", "The most satisfying revenge is the unintended one. I'd much prefer that Cartman has simply become a better, more generous and gracious jew than Kyle, and is the only member of the South Park crew to live a fulfilling life with a loving family.", "I love South Park, but c'mon. To compare working at Amazon to working in a coal mine? Really?", ">It is the most brutal experience to my back, that I've ever experienced. All because you don't really move. Just standing at a slight hunch for 10 hrs....one day this song came on. I started laughing, and nobody around me understood why it was so funny. I was a little let down. Amazon really is a soul crushing job. \n\nAre you claiming that standing still for 10 hours (with breaks) is comparable to shoveling 16 tons of coal? Really?", "yup audiobooks are a life saver on these types of jobs.", "Right. But it shows middle class people toiling at jobs they don't like at Amazon, to music of people who were poor.\n\nIt's bad satire.", "In my personal work experiences, working at Amazon was the most painful job I've had. Stop taking shit out of context. But hey, way to edit the original text to suite your narrative. Maybe you have a future in being a youtube news broadcaster.", "What do you mean by \"you don't have to lie on your return reasons\"?", "Amazon and Walmart have tried to pay their employees in company scrip (which is what “I owe my soul to the company store” references). Companies would love to do that again. You also see it referenced in A Series of Unfortunate Events with the Miserable Mill. How the mill is described is how it worked.", "If you return something to Amazon, as a customer there is a reason for return. People often times try to come up with a reason that would be deemed \"acceptable\" to get the full refund. So they'll make some weird thing up like \"doesn't work\" but then you put batteries in it, and sure enough - everything works as advertise.", "Hershey park was actually very good. Hershey tried to give his employees a lot from what I understand.", ">In my personal work experiences, working at Amazon was the most painful job I've had.\n\nWorse than when you shoveled 16 tons of coal!?!?? So sorry to hear that.\n\n> But hey, way to edit the original text to suite your narrative. Maybe you have a future in being a youtube news broadcaster.\n\nWell I tried to get a job a CNN but while they were impressed by my skill, they were disappointed that all of my edits went the opposite of what they were after.", "Unnecesssry kitchen gadgets are the bane of my existence.", "Was just mentioning the one OP posted but fair. Also not to nitpick but Toyota and not Tokoyo.", "You're an idiot. I'm just going to leave it at that.", "Surprised people here aren’t talking about the double meaning in this. First it points out how Amazon employee is tight on money (saying they don’t pay well) and he “busts his ass”, then she says “you work too hard at that place” and then proceeds to show the mindless work. Then it plays the song “sixteen tons” which is about back breaking labor and getting nothing in return. While the song plays all the scenes are of the employees pressing a button, scratching their ass, and showing robots doing all the work. \n\nNobody seeing how this kind of shits on Amazon but also shits on people who complain about working at Amazon?", "In my experience Amazon will charge you for return shipping if you changed your mind, but it's free if it was broken / defective / their mistake. That's probably why they make up fake problems.\n\nIn any case, I'm curious - do unopened items make their way back to the original inventory to be resold? Or is every returned item discarded in some way? (trash, auction pallet, Amazon warehouse, etc)", "Individuals aren't responsible for making the change, but they are responsible for doing their part to support it.\n\nAgain, if you are using amazon, are you part of the problem, or part of the solution?\n\nI cannot take anyone seriously who plays this game of \"It's on others to fix it, and my impact is too small, so I'll keep doing it in the mean time\". Its completely faulty logic built on cognitive dissonance. Just own up that you don't really have much of a problem with Amazon or Bezos, you already are by virtue of using it.", "or u can pick a job where u are the reason people piss in bottles", "all depends. some things can't be resold if opened, others can. Most of what gets returned goes to the 2nd chance thing. Where you can buy returned items for a discount judging on the condition.", "not sure what i would do to amazon if this shit happened to me. sorry for your loss man i am. shouldn't have happened like that.", "amazon including the DSPs they use for drivers is all a turn n burn scheme.", "This is amazingly accurate. Amazon warehouses have that giant orange turnstile and the forklifts are red because Amazon uses Raymond forklifts. Only thing missing is the giant creepy \"Have fun. Work hard. Make history\" display at the front entrance.", "I'm not even really clear what Umbrella did normally. Like they were a pharma company I guess, but it seems like they were just always doing evil shit and evil was their main export.", "No, the objectionable part was that they could only spend their money at the company store (often literally, they would be paid in script that was worthless anywhere else), so the company could set literally whatever prices they wanted. Doesn't matter if you're being paid a million bucks a month, if you're required to stay in the company housing that costs 2 million.", "Which ones? Gompers started the AFL about 70 years before this 1955 song was recorded. And the United Mine Workers union was formed in 1890…", "I bet Bezos doesn’t even carry sugar in his pockets.", "“HR is only available during your short lunch break on top of that”\n\nIf you have a time card issue or UPT issue like you described, just the use the HR chat bot on AtoZ. It’s available 24/7 for stuff like that. No reason to waste your break time going to HR.", "I wonder if they get yearly raises ? Full paid benefits ? Rsu or stock options ? For a braindead easy job with flexible hours it seems ok. Something you can do while studying or trying to get something better.", "You’re not boycotting Amazon if you’re on Reddit tho. They make WAY more money from AWS than they do with Marketplace.", ">The Amazon workers get mistreated and rushed on every order.\n\nEvery order? Come on. And that's definitely not portrayed in the skit. As I said, the skit is making fun of people for pretending that conditions at Amazon are in any way comparable to conditions faced by industrial workers back in the day.\n\n>And did you notice how how he kept buying things from Amazon? He’s buying things from the company store and still has to pay for a Amazon services.\n\nHow is people buying from Amazon a condemnation of Amazon? Do you think that people who work in supermarkets get free food?\n\n>Because he has no other option but to buy from Amazon\n\nLOL, no-one seriously thinks there are no alternatives to buying from Amazon, and that's also not in the skit.\n\nThe guy in the skit owns a home and a car, and has money to buy presents for his kid, buy Prime music, Prime video, etc. As much as he whines about breaking his back to earn a living, he doesn't work particularly hard. The skit is definitely NOT about how working at Amazon is like working in a coal mine during the Great Depression.", "based", "If you actually worked there, you’d know that only New Hires in certain areas make $15/hr, everyone else makes more. I made enough to buy my first house in the first 2 years I was there. \n\nThere are plenty of reasons to not like the company, you don’t need to make stuff up to be mad about.", "I’m sad I sold mine when they vested. When I started, they were $700. Now they’d be worth $3390. \n\nGoddammit.", "In Brazil the corporate towns payed in their own token money that could be used inside the town but had 0 value in the rest of the country so I'll argue that they didn't gave you money.", "Jesus fuck Amazon seems like a soul sucking job. That song is perfect. Recognized it immediately from past Fallout games.", "I do work there numnuts... Still to this day. I have 5 years of experience in AFE. Of course they adjust the wage based on where you live... But the standard across the whole US network is 15/hr. Not 18. L1 associates start at 15. Every new hire in any Amazon facility is a L1 associate. The only way you are getting more then 15/hr is if you get hired on as a supervisor from the get go, or you live in an area with a high cost of living so they adjusted it a bit. In which case it is likely equivalent to 15/hr in a low col area.", "This is the point! It’s so depressing.", "I work at Amazon and this song is on our playlist over the speakers", "I love that they truly own their bullshit and can say “our bad”. This show continues to be a favorite since it premiered", "I discovered it in the opening of Joe Versus The Volcano where a half-dead Tom Hanks slowly makes his way to work. Reminds me of my current Amazon work life. Lol\n\nGreat family legacy there.", "You clearly don’t work there if you claim you’re still making $15 after 5 years. I’ve been there 5 years and I make WAY more than that (and I started at $11 before the min hike). Every single employee gets a raise after 6 months, so you’re 100% lying if you’re trying to imply that you only make $15. \n\nYou literally said you don’t know anyone at work that can afford a house by themselves and that’s just plain lying. Quit yer BS.", "As a dealer, your job is essentially to try to make people have fun as you ruin them financially, at whatever pace, and hoping they tip before running out of money. Yes, they are adults and can make their own decisions, but gambling is highly addictive. We have many players that are just shells of their former selves because they've lost everything and still come in every.single.day. with whatever money they could scrape together", "The journey of a thousand miles starts with a single step.", "call me when they start delivering Russian mail-order brides", "At the end of the day, people shouldn't be working those jobs. And eventually they wont be, robots will. These companies and/or governments in which the companies operate should be training people in autonomous systems, and robotics repair. Not saying show them high level programing but, just enough so that they can manage and make basic repairs to those kinds of systems.", "Worked there for one week...it's a source of income. But man is it depressing.", "Your feet are used to that brand is the dumbest shot I have ever heard.", "Not American and not trying to disprove you, but rather just out of curiosity: Are those items necessities that one can't do without? I.e. are you basically forced to buy from Amazon?", "Always liked the song, I also really like the [Bart & Baker mix](https://youtu.be/m3kdltkfgiw?t=53)", "Accurate lol", "Thanks for sharing your experience. \n\nAmazon seems like an awful place to work at.", "It really hits though...also I need to buy a horn for my bike now", "I ave vague knowledge of who that is but have never given half a fuck enough to even try to read that kind of stuff.", "“If your new shoes are the same model as the shoes that you've been wearing, they are not likely to need a break-in period. Your feet are already accustomed to the level of cushioning and stability that they provide. So wearing them should not cause changes to your gait that can disrupt your stride and cause problems on your run”.\n\nhttps://www.verywellfit.com/how-long-does-it-take-to-break-in-running-shoes-2911788\n\nNot being able to do a 20 second google search is the dumbest thing I see people do on this site.", "Scorpio wasn't afraid to roll up his sleeves and get the work done himself. Preferably with a flamethrower.", "Keep dreaming.", "Not really. Methinks you hold acting in too high regard.", "Why not both?", "But my outrage feels good!", "I really expect Cartman to be sincere, then they'll all travel back in time and Kyle will ruin Cartman's future on purpose.", "I think that's part of the joke, it's playing 16 tons like they're doing back breaking work but they're watching robots do the work.", "Oh, so you just happen to know what a helicopter ride is. Crazy!", "This is so unrealistic..\n\nAmazon would never let you have your phone during your lunch break.\n\nFuck Amazon (but I cant stop buying their shit cuz its so convenient. I am the problem)\n\n:(", "Except every year there's a new cohort of 18 year olds.", "Tbh that's actually not as bad as I would have expected - call centers for example have an average employee turnaround of about 6 months. Even the best call centers are only about 12-18 months.", "I work for Amazon and I get two raises a year and stock options. I have full benefits though the company only covers 80% of the cost but for a single person it’s like 40 bucks a month. Everyone bashing Amazon all the time clearly hasn’t worked very long. Every job sucks and is repetitive but amazons benefits are insanely good plus 17 dollars an hour with a 1000 sign on bonus for the most basic level positions is not bad as a job while you go to school.", "China has factory towns if people don't know. That was in 2010. Don't know how the company is doing today. \n\nhttps://abcnews.go.com/Business/chinas-booming-factory-towns-specialize-zippers-umbrellas-santa/story?id=12150627", "Oh, I didn't consider it that way. That's enlightening and depressing at the same time!", "I assume UPS has changed? I know decades ago 90's-00's. If you found yourself onto a truck after working your way up. Life was set. Fellow student's dad retired super fucking early after driving a truck for UPS.", "Kind of worried about your diet if you are taking 4 shits in a work day. How many shits do you take after work? What about on days off?", "If the joke is about the workers thinking they have it bad but they don't, then it works.", "And >90% of that stuff is made in China #JustSayin", "It can be an incredibly fun job. I've had plenty of great shifts dealing both low stakes and the biggest those casinos offer. However, when the honeymoon phase ends it's just a grind and it wears on your body. If I pay people today, they **WILL** give it back, wether it's an hour, day, month... No one gets out alive. At the end of the day, what I do is meaningless. I just help facilitate people's addiction and I don't like that.", "The crazy thing is when I travel for work how common this still is. People think it’s only gulf countries but it’s legit in so so many places now. Labor camps with all the housing, food, transport and services provided for by the company and automatically withdrawn from your check", "When I worked in a warehouse (not amazon) the turnover rate was absolutely insane. They pay a lot for a job that requires no skills or experience (around $25/hour), but beat the absolute shit out of you with what they demand. Seems like there aas a constantly revolving flow of employees though, sk they never needed labor. Your’e a drone there, and the second you can be replaced with an automated system you will.", "No. Simply Quality of Life (QoL). I just recently able to afford QoL's.", "I work from home doing sales. It is single handedly the worst job i have ever done. It hits you in the most precise spot to undignify you. Issue is its a 6 figure job. So you jusy come to terms its a means to an end. Its crushing", "I work from home doing sales. It is single handedly the worst job i have ever done. It hits you in the most precise spot to undignify you. Issue is its a 6 figure job. So you jusy come to terms its a means to an end. Its crushing", "I mean I have worked for other large distribution centers on the problems of automation...\n\nThere are limits, especially when it comes to shipping large packages (can't put them on conveyer belts), or to loading and unloading trucks... And a lot of people aren't willing to foot the large up front costs... but basically everyone in distribution is in the process of automating in one way or another, and if they aren't, they are probably going to be out of business in the next 10 years, or are still too small to matter.", "If you were to revamp it as a job someone could do long term, what do you think the throughput would need to be? \n\nWhat changes could be made to make the working conditions acceptable? \n\nChairs? More breaks? Shorter shifts?", "Duration\n2014–ongoing\n\nhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flint_water_crisis", "Desktop version of /u/Purplociraptor's link: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flint_water_crisis>\n\n --- \n\n ^([)[^(opt out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiMobileLinkBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^(]) ^(Beep Boop. Downvote to delete)", "Here is the song that was used in the clip: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRh0QiXyZSk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRh0QiXyZSk). Seems everyone else in the thread has just posted other versions.\n\nThe version used in the episode is \"16 Tons\" performed by \"Tennessee Ernie Ford\" [source](https://southpark.fandom.com/wiki/Sixteen_Tons)", "40 hrs a week, 5 days a week. 9 hour days with 1hr lunch. Job rotation every 2 hours. Meaning you go from a job that may require standing, to a job that you move around a bit. And finally, add 1 or 2 more people to each group to reduce the work load expected per person. Allowing them more time to confirm their parts. Happy worker = better product. That's all there is to it.", "Honestly I worked at Amazon when they first moved to my city. Kept it part time, the workload wasn't to bad and only had to deal with them for four hours. My family wanted me to go full time and I was like \"Hell Naw\" because I already heard the horror stories from them. Am actually glad that I no longer work there 😊", "that's why the heist needs to be elaborate", "Acting is acting, the point im trying to make is on B99 he plays a character, in the commercial he plays himself. I have no problem with any actor playing a role beyond some exception, but being in a commercial as yourself is literally called an endorsement.", "A single line from a wiki to perpetuate a lie?\n\n[You](https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/12/23/flint-water-crisis-2020-post-coronavirus-america-445459)\n\n>\tteam of researchers reported that Flint’s homes—even the ones at the highest risk for undrinkable, lead-poisoned tap water—finally had clean water running through their pipes.\n\n[Are](https://www.mlive.com/news/flint/2020/12/flint-finishes-water-testing-early-results-far-below-federal-lead-threshold.html)\n\n>In the most recent testing, Flint’s water samples showed a 90th percentile for lead of 6 parts per billion, below the federal action level at 15 ppb. That means 90 percent of water samples were below 6 ppb of lead.\n\n\n[Wrong](https://www.npr.org/2019/04/25/717104335/5-years-after-flints-crisis-began-is-the-water-safe)\n\n>\tIt's still common to see claims on social media that Flint still doesn't have clean water. However, tests have shown Flint's tap water has improved greatly since the depths of the water crisis. Now, it's well within federal and state standards for lead, even better than many other cities.\n\nBut keep perpetuating a lie.", "SPOILERS GODDAMNIT", "Then you come home to browse reddit and watch this video hosted on servers provisioned by... you guessed it, AWS/Amazon.", "So, if the 260 is the quota, minus the breaks, that's roughly processing a return every two minutes without fail for the entire shift. Granted I have no idea what is involved in doing that, but doing anything every two minutes without fail sounds exhausting.", "You are taking this very personally, as if you are a Flint, MI real estate agent or something.", "[Trillbillies on Company Towns](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SugMvGn2wQQ)", ">He’s buying things from the company store and still has to pay for a Amazon services. Because he has no other option but to buy from Amazon, he has to buy it at whatever price they have it at.\n\nGood lord. This has only the most superficial relationship to the original song, which was about actual abusive practices by companies. No, in this video, it is not true that \"he has no other option but to buy from Amazon\". Don't be absurd.", "> They typically play music over a large speaker, and one day this song came on. I started laughing, and nobody around me understood why it was so funny.\n\nAnd then everybody clapped, right?", "Tell me what warehouse job is pleasant. At least Amazon pays well and has good benefits", "Bezos is not the CEO of Amazon anymore. You'll have to update your script", "For the vast majority of human history as well. Do people think that subsistence farming is not soul crushing as well?", "When did I say Bezos was the CEO?", "> That's how Bezos sees the humans in his FCs\n\n\"That's how Bezos sees the humans in his FCs\". He's not involved day to day anymore", "He's the executive chairman, he's still a huge shareholder... they are still *his* fulfillment centres, for all itnents and purposes. He isn't magically, morally absolved just because he handed the CEO title to some other jackbooted corporate thug.", "Cool, so if I own Amazon stock they're my fulfillment centers too?", "Considering you probably own less than a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a percent of their shares, I suppose you could claim a cubmic milimeter of one, sure.\n\nIf Bezos *wanted* to, Bezos could change the material conditions of the FCs. \n\nYou and I cannot.\n\nI don't see why you're tryin' so hard to get on Bezos' dick, he ain't writing you into his will no matter how hard you shill. \n\nScab.", "I just find it amusing how apparently you think that Amazon fulfillment centers are the 9th circle of hell and Jeff Bezos himself personally designed them this way and that he is the devil incarnate, while also ignoring that warehouse jobs are pretty shitty work in general. I'd rather work at an Amazon FC than your average warehouse job, to be perfectly honest.", "Great, let's improve material conditions for all workers! I can totally get on board with that idea!", "Sure, go ahead. But pretending that Amazon is some kind of unique hellhole and Jeff Bezos is the devil is disingenuous.", "The devil? No. A ruthless capitalist? Yes.\n\nWhere did I say Amazon was a unique hellhole?\n\nYou seem to enjoy putting a lot of hyperbolic words in my mouth and then knocking down those strawman arguments like some sort of Scab Champion Extraordinaire.\n\nWhere do you get off on defending Bezos, anyways?", "My current theory is that his family is actually an updated version of Alexa, and he's going to be around Stan when he tells his Alexa to shut up, revealing that he's just fucking with Kyle.\n\nEither that or he's genuinely Jewish, which would be funnier in my opinion.", "This belongs in r/documentary", "I'm indifferent towards Bezos. Unlike you, who literally goes into fits of impotent rage when you see his name.", "For someone indifferent to the man, you sure were quick to go out of your way to clarify Amazon's new org chart (not that it matters) to me...", "Just thought I'd help you out by telling you to update your script for next time you need to tilt at windmills in an Amazon-related thread", "Doesn't take away from your point at all, but Time Warner is a single company", "It's one step beyond - Unlike Stan and Kyle who never really left South Park, Cartman did. He grew up and out of the child mentality and became a loving and devoted person. He genuinely grew up, unlike his old friends.", "That would really be the best coda for the whole show, wouldn't it?", "https://youtu.be/dI9KBLb_8ro", "99% of the people here would have their entire lives changed by 100k. Terry crews not so much.", "Are they begging for labor like everyone else? If so, seems like you could come in and just cruise at a comfortable pace, and ignore anything they say. Would take a certain mental attitude, the likes of \"don't need this job, but I'm content to work it as long as it's comfortable\". It would be a different story if this were 1930 and every job had 5 people lined up behind you to take it the moment you slipped up.", "> It's a nuanced message. The system is exploitative, but even the people getting exploited benefit from the system and choose to use it. It's somber because the problem seems intractable. \n \nFor some aspect of it, people only have themselves to blame. The whole idea of your \"prime day of the week\" where everything gets delivered, every week, on the same day. How much junk do you really need in your life that you're ordering stuff, from one company, every single week of the year? Perhaps weekly groceries or similar. But it seems like Amazon is pushing a lot more than just groceries out to all of these people.", "Upvoted for opinion lol", "> Amazon and Walmart have tried to pay their employees in company scrip\n\ngonna need to source that claim", "Amazon’s Swagbucks. The Walmart thing happened in Mexico [and was thankfully struck down by their supreme court](https://www.reuters.com/article/mexico-walmex/court-outlaws-wal-mart-de-mexico-worker-vouchers-idUSN0546591320080905).", "Yeah it is now. They are all one company now.", "That's good. It is hard work, I haven't personally done it. But I would imagine going from the warehouse to driving trucks is a bit better. Albeit, I keep our UPS busy with orders so I can only imagine with Amazon and whatever, it's so much more as compared to the past.\n\nI should sit out a 6 pack or something in the coming weeks for them lol", "Oops, sorry, didn't know you were the historian here. I defer all my points to you, EVERYONE, EVERYONE, HE IS RIGHT AND HAS BESTED ME IN KNOWLEDGE. ALL DEFER TO These_Gold_6036.", "Imagine having Jeff Bezos as a landlord", "Listen, either we can go through the long, annoying process of growing vanilla plants, curing them, extracting the beans and getting a thimble full of vanilla extract for the trouble. OR we can use a laboratory produced approximation of the vanilla flavor which is much cheaper and doesn't quite measure up.\n\nTwo products that aim to accomplish the same task, one natural and one artificial." ]
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South Park - Working at Amazon Fulfillment Center
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[ "Wedgie Sport.", "NOBODY WANNA SEE THAT BUSINESS", "I’m not aroused by this", "where can we find the womens league... \nasking for a friend" ]
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This guy never fails to amaze
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[ "Way ahead of the curve dropping this classic album in 2001", "Fucking love it. Sugarcult used to be so awesome. I still love and listen to their music!", "Did sound for these guys. Very very nice guys" ]
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Pedal operation
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[ "“Professional Tetris Player”.", "Which is a very real thing.", "Absolutely. NES tetris has exploded in the past few years and there are some really talented people rising to the top." ]
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOWC7lhuKtQ
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[ "Dude is grooving too. I like garage rock. It needs another revival.", "Check out Allah Las", "I was suddenly drawn to the woman dancing in the upper left..", "Seriously. Nobody could have followed that James Brown performance. \n\nMaybe Elvis, but not 1964 Elvis.", "I can't believe someone else was thinking this. The whole time I'm like ZOOM IN ZOOM IN. She was STACKED and I wanted to see more.", "I too am shocked that people wanted to see a hot big titty girl dance. Well maybe you can see more, if she was 25 at the time of filming she would only be 82 now. With a little effort you might be able to track her down and see if she would dance for you but she might need a walker.", "Damn. That band straight up copy+pasta'd a bunch of Beatles songs and sound. I mean I guess beatles songs aren't that sophisticated either but...even the chords and rhythm", "Their song ['Moulty'](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qb9Qg65GQWI) is worth checking out, an autobiographical song by the drummer, backed in the studio by the Hawks, later to be known as 'The Band'", "Its like if the Beatles did a California surf album", "Strange looking dudes... The drummer and guitar players haircuts are /r/fuckmyshitup material" ]
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Garage rock band the Barbarians performing live on the TAMI Show in 1964. They were well known for the fact that their drummer played with a hook for a hand after losing their hand to an explosion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VkFK2JN5tA
/r/videos/comments/r9omki/milton_martinezs_demolición_part_that_won_him_the/
[ "That was insane.", "Very cool skater", "Whenever I see people hanging out and skateboarding I always like to stop and watch for a few minutes. I have never, ever, in my entire life, seen someone land even the simplest trick in person. It has been an endless montage of people attempting to do an ollie, jumping off their board as it rolls away, and then stumbling and catching themselves heavily on a guard rail.\n\nI am obviously not a west coaster.", "Holy balls that trick at 1:50...\n\nEdit: This dude is insane. How has he not busted his skull by now.", "Very well deserved SOTY", "DAMN... that was an insane part. He moves... fast.", "so theres one thing im unsure of. ive seen someone do the sunset carwash gap before but i dont follow skating anymore so idk if it was this person that i saw or someone else. if it was milton it makes sense but if it wasnt then why are they celebrating so hard afterwards? the video i saw i think spent more time at that location and had the skater struggle with it and possibly even get into a confrontation with the ...owner or maybe police. its just a odd one to end on if it was a big part of a different skaters filming location.", "There is the raw version of his kickflip on youtube. The reason why its so celebrated is because no one had kickflipped it yet. And it is extremely gnarly to do that into a crazy bank like that.", "It's cause Skateboarding is hard as hell! If you go to a skatepark and see someone land a trick here and there, they're usually considered pretty good at skating. \n\nI've been skating for 15+ years, and I'm happy if I land 3 or 4 tricks in a 4 hour skate session. Granted, they're nothing like the caliber seen in this video. At my age, I like to stay a little closer to the ground.\n\nThat said, I still do it cause I find there's nothing that's more rewarding than learning and doing something new. I recommend anyone even slightly interested in Skateboarding to pick up a board and give it a shot.", "Fu-King amazing!! Damn, always impressed by the skill and the abuse these guys and girls go through for some of these tricks!!\n\nIf anyone hasn't heard or seen King of the Road and has a love of skating you def owe it to yourself to watch as it is done by Vice in collaboration with Thrasher.", "This guy wears regular chuck taylors?", "I can't skate for shit but I am a photographer that likes to shoot skaters now and then. I am constantly amazed at how hard a lot of skaters work to get a single trick out and how much everyone around them celebrates when they do. I don't doubt that I am lucky to be near good parks but I am always super stoked at how wholesome skaters can be at times.", "Converse has skateboard versions of some of their shoes under the CONS name. What he mostly skates are CTAS Pros. A modified Chuck Taylor with a removable cushioned insole, different upper, and slightly modified outsole. \n\nCONS made him his own colorway when he won SOTY.", "Agreed. Feels for Suciu though as he is probably going to be beat out again this year by Yuto.", "The gnarliest part about the video imo.", "RIP Phelpsy! Gone way too soon, but damn did he live a full life\n\nMilton totally deserved SOTY, some of those spots were INSANE!!", "Damn, I recognized one of those locations from an old Zero skate video with Jamie Thomas I probably haven't seen in 20 years. Crazy the things you randomly remember.\n\nI gave up skating a long time ago, but always cool to see how far the sport has come. Really cool video.", "Which spot was it?", "The gap to lipslide on the 10 flat 10 or whatever it is blows my mind every time.", "Several tricks have been done there. Milton was the first to kickflip into it. [Milton broke his leg there in 2015](https://youtu.be/BAqNOneGRiM?t=136) trying to ollie into the bank.\n\n[John Cardiel early grab and Mark Gonzales ollie to forehead slide](https://youtu.be/w2IYXNBIXUE)\n\n[Jim Greco ollie](https://youtu.be/sqXvfRz0s9I?t=154)\n\n[Gavin Kish half cab](https://youtu.be/epOFy7H55_c)\n\n[Alex Midler Backside 360](https://youtu.be/TAenS2LcBl0)\n\n[Dustin Dollin trying to kickflip and getting wrecked part 1](https://youtu.be/Jfx8l-zVrYU)\n\n[Dustin Dollin trying to kickflip and getting wrecked part 2](https://youtu.be/THcnby6b6sY)", "I am glad skating never lost the fish eye lense", "If he does I’m going to burn my trasher mags", "Idk dudes at my local shred, it just depends on what the local scene is like.", "Does he not have a shoe sponsorship yeah that’s crazy lol I’ve never tried to skate with chucks but I don’t imagine they are that great", "Gotcha thanks that makes a bit more sense", "[This guy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKVaLuifQEE) is arguably the best skateboarder in the world (or at least was), and this is what it took for him to get just one of the 30+ tricks in a single video part. Shit's hard.", "I mean Yuto's part was pretty nuts.", "Ollie to forehead slide lmao.\n\nAlso Midler's back 3 is so damn gnarly", "It was great but I don’t even think it was the best part from this half of the year. If it wasn’t for the fact that Yuto one the Olympics he would not even be in the consideration for SOTY and personally I don’t really think the olypics was that important. If competition skating mattered than Nyjah should have been SOTY by now", "Ya, that's true. I've seen a lot of people on thrasher saying that the Olympics should count against SOTY lol. Personally, I'm for Dilo but I have very low hopes that comes true.", "I want Sucui to win but I could live with Dilo", "The gap he jumps at 2:25. \n\n[This is the Jamie Thomas video I remember at the same location](https://youtu.be/dqqPCqyAfl4?t=48)." ]
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Milton Martinez's "¡DEMOLICIÓN!" Part That Won Him the Title of "Skater of the Year" in 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If-oWqUYzlQ
/r/videos/comments/r9orl0/dolly_parton_outclasses_barbara_walters_rude/
[ "Barbara Walters is the worst.", "Then she's a perfect contrast to Dolly!", "Dolly Parton is the best.\n\nEdit: I finally got home and watched it. When she says the joke is on the public and that she knows exactly what she's doing, I believe her 100 percent. Earlier she said entertainment is a money making business. I bet she feels ridiculous in her clothes and makeup, but that's what's selling, so she's laughing her ass off at what the general public wants to buy. That gave me huge This is America vibes. \"I'm so pretty.. I'm gon' get it.\"\n\nAs I said. Dolly Parton. The fucking best. Boss ass bitch.", "that hair is epic\n\nlike a helmet", "You just can't outclass Dolly. She's such a treasure.\n\nedit: I don’t want to hate on Barbara Walters too much. She’s a seasoned interviewer. This was at a time where most interviewers worked with an artists publicist to come up with compelling interviews that benefitted both. The questions are probably all approved by Dolly, and she’s such a good person that almost nothing offends her. A true professional.", "Dolly making Barbara look like straight trash", "I don't know Barbara Walters but I would not consider her questions as rude. They are direct, without any political correctness and quite fair actually. Also by her tone, I feel like they are asked with respect and genuine interest.\n\nTo me this is what a conversation between adults is supposed to be like. Asking hard questions and getting honest, well thought answers.\n\nEdit: I guess the PC police does not like my take on this conversation...", "Man I’ve never seen her so young but I can’t help but notice how much Paris Hilton looks like her here.", "Yo her first question was ARE YOU A HILLBILLY?, her second question was WHEN DID YOU GROW TITS? third question was ARE YOUR TITS REAL? fourth question was WHY DO YOU WEAR WIGS AND MAKEUP IF YOU ARE ALREADY PRETTY? then I turned it off when Barbara asks ARE YOU A JOKE? \n\nReal polite and hard hitting journalism here. What a professional cunt.", "Talk to people like this and see how far you get in life.", "The interview questions are designed to set up Dolly to give those answers so that Dolly can respond to the frequent criticism that she was getting at the time.\n\nI think the questions sound rude to people who don't know the context. This was a softball interview and Im sure the topics were discussed in advance.\n\nThat, and people (or bots) keep posting the video with a title that presupposes rudeness.", "Depends on where you live I guess.\n\nI know for a fact that not all culture need communication to be sugar coated in political correctness. Some people actually prefer straightforward questions and answers.", "Barbara Walters fucking sucks", "Dolly outclasses everyone and probably 10x Babs.", "Just because someone has the right to say something without punishment from the government doesn’t mean it’s a good idea. Being rude isn’t exactly something people appreciate and people generally don’t like rude people. This behavior was rude.", "That's so strange! That's exactly what I thought too", "You must be deliberately ignoring your sense.", "They lack tact.", "First of all, not all the questions are phrased as you cite them.\n\nAnd even then, she's not accusing Dolly Parton of anything. The way Barbara Walter sounds does not even indicate any kind of judgement (at least to me).\n\nWhat does really bother you in this interview? The subject (why did Dolly Parton make her persona this way) or the form (the choice of direct question without trying to be politically correct)?", "I mean, if your a journalist or professional interviewer asking straight questions with no inflection isn’t really inappropriate. That said, I feel like Barbara was trying to catch Dolly in a trap here.", "You know? I bet she doesn't even do that.", "She wears a wig professionally to preserve a small chance of privacy.", "Thank you. I couldn't bring myself to watch much because I just can't stomach Barbara Walters. Now I know what the questions were. When I was younger I never fully appreciated how awesome Dolly Parton is.", "Asking a person from Tennessee if they are a hillbilly isn’t a professional question. It adds nothing to a conversation. I have no problem with hard hitting questions when they need to be asked to someone but this is again, just rude. It has nothing to do with political correctness. It’s just human decency.", "Having almost certainly seen this when it aired I agree with you. I still can't stand Barbara Walters. That said, the 70s were also a radically different time in terms of social norms.", "For those who don't know, Dolly Parton gives out free children's books.\n\nhttps://imaginationlibrary.com/", "**[Barbara Walters](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Walters)** \n \n >Barbara Jill Walters (born September 25, 1929) is an American retired broadcast journalist, author, and television personality. Known for her interviewing ability and popularity with viewers, Walters appeared as a host of numerous television programs, including Today, The View, 20/20, and the ABC Evening News. Walters was a working journalist from 1951 until 2015. Walters began her career on The Today Show in the early 1960s as a writer and segment producer of women's interest stories.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)", "Dolly is awesome - such a kind, generous, and loving person. We can all learn from her.", "Fully aware of who she is. I was instructing the person I was responding to to start acting like her and see how far in life they get. Not far. And Barbara Walters could have gotten a lot farther by not being rude.", "\"I'd never stoop so low as to be fashionable.\"\n\nThat's hilarious.", "From this clip alone it’s clear that Dolly is a very emotionally intelligent person.", "You made it further than I did. I quit after she asked about plastic surgery.", "Barbara Walters is a brilliant interviewer. Y’all want to hear some bullshit questions about her next album or you want to hear some real shit?", "I don't think so. There have been a few times she really has crossed a line, but, for instance, as in this interview, she can elicit a reaction out an interviewee that really demonstrates who they are, and what they are about. I think that means she's a good interviewer. Barbara doesn't come out of the interview looking good, but that isn't the goal. The viewer ends up with a better understanding of Dolly Parton, and that was Barbara's goal throughout.", "Dolly: What do you mean 'Your People' ?", "She's very jealous of Dolly.", "Dolly Parton may not be fully enlightened in the Buddhist sense but she's obviously very well centered and not a slave to her emotions and likes/dislikes.", "I don't know much about her but she's always seemed like such an intelligent and good person. She just oozes the personality vibes of strong, intelligent and good-hearted leaders. Sure she might not traditionally look the part but I feel like you could plop her down in a different body, different situation and she would be running for office.\n\nGreat lady.", "That’s just a very small part of Dolly’s philanthropy. She’s quite an amazing person.", "Didnt see anything wrong with the questions. They were awkward to ask, but they're exactly the things people want to know about and allowed Dolly to give such considered and classy responses. The reason we know how amazing Dolly is is because of questions like these.", "I’ll steal this from a tweet. If Dolly looked this good I gotta see what Jolene looked like.", "I've never enjoyed Dolly's music, but I've always admired her. Such a capable and wonderful woman. She's done, and continues to do, a lot of good for a lot of people. All the best to her and her loved ones.", "Interesting take on it. In our day and age people are so focused on not being seen as an asshole that they don’t ask the questions that could do even if those questions could reveal more than safe interviews.\nHowever there are other ways.", "Yeah no one time on The View, they had Corey Feldman on who was talking about the rampant pedophelia going on in Hollywood and she scolded him for trying to destroy the industry. She sucks.", "> There have been a few times she really has crossed a line", "which rude question? \"there were so many\" for clarification.", "Yo, fuck Barbara Walters", "She's so awesome for doing this. She's doing something real, something with a genuine impact on people. And for so many. \n\nAll the way over here in Australia we get these. My kids look forward to the delivery thoroughly, it arrives and I make a big deal of that piece of paper with their name on it and how there is a gift for them with their name on it, I hand it over with the pair stuck out, kids grab it and pull the paper out while I dance off with my book from Dolly Parton (what? The book doesn't have your name on it! Fiiine I'll share)\n\nThey thoroughly enjoy them, my little girl is nearly five but reading bloody everything she sees.", "I dig both women personally and grew up watching both as a kid. I think those questions are the types that really let the viewers understand that Dolly is hella real and down to earth, in her own words.", "Dolly is a National Treasure!", "Dolly Parton is a Saint", "Barbara Walters is a horrible person. Just watching how disrespectful she was to Corey Feldman over his coming out of pedophelia in Hollywood reaffirmed my dislike for her. The questions are just rude and disrespectful and Dolly Parton answers them more calmly and intelligently than I ever could. [Barbara Walter Accusing Corey Feldman of damaging Hollywood’s image](https://www.newsweek.com/barbara-walters-accuses-corey-feldman-damaging-entire-industry-pedophilia-accusations-1525167)", "She waved at the line as she blew way past it.", "Didn't he grift money from people with his online reveal special?", "[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsCM7NeFu5w](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsCM7NeFu5w) \n\n\nThe same shitbag victim blamed Corey Feldman for damaging the industry.", "Many limousine liberal types think they are so much better than those filthy \"rednecks\" they look down upon.\n\nYou can hear it in Walters' voice....and still a bigotry common in many people today.", "Working sucks. Working in an office is okay. But I noticed that approaching work like a game makes it more enjoyable. I have no loyalty except to myself and my salary. I focus on my output because it makes the day go by faster for me personally. My primary objective is \"leaning\" every aspect of my job resulting in lower effort but higher output. I was hired into a department/role that was demanding the resources of 3 employees (including myself). Once I was familiar with the job role, I opted out of all the unnecessary habits (IE over detailing email attachments for archive, over detailing internal notes, sending an email reply only saying \"thank you\" both internally/externally, using hard copy reference instead of digital and much more) that were trained to me. I did not let customers or colleagues that I didn't report to manage me. Within 6 months, colleague # 1 got promoted out of the department. Colleague # 2 (my supervisor) clashed with upper management, was revealed to be inefficient, and emotionally driven when making high impact decisions. Colleague # 2 eventually quit and I became the department for a year until we hired another employee). Title/Salary bump + autonomy over department parameters/company written processes.\nI play all sides when it comes to internal politics and communicate neutrality when there is conflict between colleagues/departments. I try to maintain frame when there is an emotional situation (frustrated colleague, high maintenance customer, mistakes across multiple departments resulting in x dollars) and avoid matching tonality so I appear to be the more rational person in the room. Most colleagues are intimidated by upper management. 3 years later and I now report directly to the CEO after starting as an entry level employee. Although I'm much younger than upper management, I'm treated as a peer.", "The stories from stage hands and musicians who shared the festival circuits with Dolly are full of tales of her generosity, her wicked sense of humor and street and business smarts . Legend.", "You should listen to her album “coat of many colors”, its her best work front to back imo.", "I would love to see pictures of dolly wearing normal stuff and no wig.\n\nJust to know her thing.\n\nMaybe I've met her and never knew it.", "Walters is such a smug person in this interview. Dolly is nothing other than a large breasted, country singing, bumpkin to her. The world will miss Dolly Parton a heck of a lot more than Barbara Walters.", "That means crossing the line with a question to get a valuable answer. Not shill for Hollywood and shut down your guest.", "Nobody knows what it means. But it's provocative. It gets the people going.\n\nEdit: https://youtu.be/sh0IBg7GBeY?t=30s", "She is very self aware and has a good understanding of her emotions, the emotions of others and how to handle them. How she is able to explain her views and actions that are very different from the way most people view the world or act, and she does it in a way that is easily relatable.", "Understands emotions, its the counterpart to something like academic intelligence. IQ and EQ are the 'standard' measurements. Basically means she's empathetic", "She really is. Its a shame all the flak she got in the 70's/80's regarding how she chose to express herself.", "yes.", "I think it means someone that's strong enough to overcome their emotions.", "Which one", "I can not stand country music. I've never liked it and will likely never like it, but Dolly is amazing.", "Emotional intelligence is an understanding of feelings that come up in various situations, and why they come up. It's helpful to being able to respond in a constructive way when negative feelings come up, understanding other people and how to avoid upsetting them (particularly if you need to give them feedback), and understanding (so you can communicate it) what you need out of a healthy relationship.", "People aren't thrilled that she basically told Corey Feldman that his reporting on the pedophilia in Hollywood is damaging to the industry, as opposed to sympathizing with him. You know, because he was one of the numerous kids that have been sexually abused and assaulted in Hollywood.", "That boy needs therapy", "Go listen to Dolly’s version of stairway to heaven", "It’s all about taste and preference, so arguing about it is pointless.\n## \nThat said, I’ve always been weary when people say they don’t like an entire genre of music. I usually assume they haven’t listened to enough of that genre to see the bright spots.", "FYI, Dolly has been married to Carl Dean for 55 years now.", "\"It takes a lot of time and money to look this cheap, honey\"\n\n-Dolly Parton", "I find country absolutely mind numbingly bland, especially everything that a non fan comes across. \n\nDolly is absolutely amazing!", "Teww me about yo bwests", "Interesting what she said about her marriage at the end. She's still with her husband after 55 years.", "Actually go watch what she says to Feldman. She wants Corey, after 15+ years (at that point) of claiming there's a giant pedophile ring operating in Hollywood, to finally name anybody who's a part of it. She's upset that by him not naming people, he's painting basically *all of Hollywood* as pedophiles. Is it Tom Hanks? Is it Tom Cruise? Is it Burt Reynolds? It's complete bullshit that Feldman did that for literally 25+ years.\n\nFor the record, Cory Feldman only \"named names\" once those people had been arrested, then he'd claim they were part of the \"ring\", but it was always these bit character guys who acted in two episodes of Melrose Place or they owned a diner kids hung out at. Nobody famous outside of his Charlie Sheen accusation.\n\nCorey Feldman has been claiming he'd release the \"big\" names if enough people paid him to do so for a long time, because *\"he'll be blacklisted from Hollywood if he does it\"*, but Feldman hasn't acted in 20 fucking years, so what exactly does he have to lose?\n\nWalter's isn't the best interviewer, but people misconstrued what she said to him. She's just tired of hearing him say there's this awful pedophile ring operating in Hollywood and Corey Feldman is aware of, and yet he hasn't outed anybody participating in it, so by his logic, he's allowed 20+ years of kids to be abused while he protects the identity of the abusers. Also, none of these kids who are being abused have come forward.\n\n\\#MeToo fucked Corey Feldman's lies. It turns out there's zero repercussions for coming forward today, and that just about everybody will believe you, yet he still refuses to name names. He's a fucking conman.", "Dolly is such an intelligent, confident, talented, and strong woman. We are blessed to have her.", "I'm sorry, but Barbara Walters is a bitch", "Going by that statement you mean to tell me you can't stand Tennessee Whiskey?", "I assume what you mean by “non fan” is the garbage that is played on the radio. And you’d be right, it’s not only bland, it’s downright pandering trash.", "The problem we have today is that we don't have that one reporter/interviewer that you can't avoid sitting down with. The type of interviewer who will not hold back, won't allow a safe place and will be upfront about asking uncomfortable questions. However, the reporter will be fair to you, they will allow you to talk but if you start going into nonsense they will shut it down. For example Gayle King shutting down R Kelly when he started losing it during the interview.\n\nNow everyone is too scared to do this because it will scare away potential guests. This has provided safe places for political figures, CEO's and Hollywood figures. Joe Rogan allows people to come on his show and say whatever the hell they want with little to no pushback. Its not an interview anymore, you're just giving your guest access to millions of people to ramble for 45 minutes. Certain politicians will only go on Fox News or CNN because they know they will treated in a certain way.", "In case you're not joking, it's a real thing. For my dad, any feeling that wasn't happiness would turn into anger and outbursts. If you had any feeling that wasn't happiness, he dealt with it with anger. He may have been extremely intelligent, but he had absolutely no idea how to regulate his own or others' emotions, and in that regard, was a dumbass.", "Dolly Parton, Betty White and Tom Hanks are all national treasures.", "\"Y'all dumb motherfuckers want a key change?!\"", "Actually go watch what she says to Feldman. She wants Corey, after 15+ years (at that point) of claiming there's a giant pedophile ring operating in Hollywood, to finally name anybody who's a part of it. She's upset that by him not naming people, he's painting basically all of Hollywood as pedophiles. Is it Tom Hanks? Is it Tom Cruise? Is it Burt Reynolds? It's complete bullshit that Feldman did that for literally 25+ years.\n\nFor the record, Cory Feldman only \"named names\" once those people had been arrested, then he'd claim they were part of the \"ring\", but it was always these bit character guys who acted in two episodes of Melrose Place or they owned a diner kids hung out at. Nobody famous outside of his Charlie Sheen accusation.\n\nCorey Feldman has been claiming he'd release the \"big\" names if enough people paid him to do so for a long time, because \"he'll be blacklisted from Hollywood if he does it\", but Feldman hasn't acted in 20 fucking years, so what exactly does he have to lose?\n\nWalter's isn't the best interviewer, but people misconstrued what she said to him. She's just tired of hearing him say there's this awful pedophile ring operating in Hollywood and Corey Feldman is aware of, and yet he hasn't outed anybody participating in it, so by his logic, he's allowed 20+ years of kids to be abused while he protects the identity of the abusers. Also, none of these kids who are being abused have come forward.\n\n\\#MeToo fucked Corey Feldman's lies. It turns out there's zero repercussions for coming forward today, and that just about everybody will believe you, yet he still refuses to name names. He's a fucking conman.", "Doesnt mean she's not a cunt.", "Did Corey Feldman ever actually name people that were in the massive pedophile ring he claimed was operating in Hollywood?", "Lmao thank you for catching my subtle Bo Burnam reference.", "Dolly is class.", "I can't remember seeing an interview so designed to cause offence and cast the interviewee in a bad light. That was a series of insults thinly veiled as questions. Dolly is such a class act.", "Republicans jumped the shark the day they tried to cancel Dolly F'in Parton. Poor things are running out of safe spaces, and quick.", "Ha, I couldn't figure out which terrible question was the titular \"rude\" one.", "I think the word you meant to use was \"wary.\"", "What an absolute legend. Brilliant in many ways.", "I quote this out of context entirely too much.", "\"No it's not, it's just some people going ______\"", "I'm pretty sure they were making a reference.", "When she talks about her husband in that interview, & how she knows her marriage will last, its interesting to note that 44 yrs later she is indeed still married to that same man....", "Her first three questions were \"People call you a hillbilly, right?\" and \"Did you have big tits when you were growing up?\" and \"Are your tits fake.\"\n\nThen \"Your whole look is an interesting choice\" and \"Are you a joke?\"\n\n\"So, your husband, no one ever sees him. Is it real? Sounds like a weird marriage situation to me.\"", "Omg those are cringy questions. Kudos to Dolly for taking the high road; she is clearly well spoken and smart enough to match wits with Walters and could have given her an embarrassing verbal smack down at any time.", "We need to start adding Dolly to the great people of this world, Bob Ross, Steve Irwin, Jim Henson and ~~Mr Rodgers~~ Mr. Rogers\n\nEdit: spelling", "Suck it Babs", "I don't care about a spoken southern accent, but I don't like a singing voice with a southern accent. I don't care about ridin' around with my boys in our pickups. Love stories about the girl next door don't appeal to me. I don't care about drowning your sorrows in whiskey or beer.\n\nFor those reasons, among others, I avoid listening to country music. It's not to say I hate all of it, I really like some songs from Sugarland, and Not Ready To Make Nice by the group formerly known as the Dixie Chicks is a great song, but much more \"pop\" than \"country.\"\n\nBut that's to say there are enough common themes across the genre that I don't find appealing, I'm not going to spend time listening to it in order to find those bright spots.\n\nCompared to hard rock, where a lot of the common themes *do* appeal to me, but there are absolutely songs and bands I don't like.", "The one good thing about Tennessee.", "These are two fabulous ladies", "> think they are so much better than those filthy \"rednecks\" they look down upon.\n\nStudy after study proves that we are, in fact. Sorry we beat you by 7 million votes, snowflake. :)", "It's music about poor people being performed by people who live in mansions and wear designer clothing.", "I'm not judging Barbara Walters, or, to a lesser extent, Corey Feldman.\n\nBut what you're pointing out about the industry is dead on.\n\nVague assertions that may have been true about a thin segment of people have ended up creating an unrealistic and universal cloud of suspicion over everyone. Plus there's the bankruptcy of critical thought and fact finding which now exists, and the way people gravitate to believe and then embellish whatever is the most salacious concept over what is supported by evidence and probability.\n\nThose of us who do use those senses are then smeared for doing so.", "I'm no fan of Barbara, but you are entirely correct about Feldman and his routine.", "Just curious if you've tried older country music. I'm not a huge fan of it but it's far and away better than anything in country released within the last 30 years or so. Definitely don't confuse classic country with the stupid hick pop we have today. For instance I can quite enjoy some of the honky tonk, and some of it has interesting covers such as [Al Dexter's Pistol Packin' Mama](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8Jd281xrAU) being sung by [Bing Crosby](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjgqQcKE3DY). Classic country like [Hank Williams](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WXYjm74WFI) is far and away better than anything in the genre today and I can handle stuff as late as people like Merle Haggard. Once you get to rockabilly and folk stuff I tend to start branching off into groups like The Lovin' Spoonfuls that went towards pop and rock but kept their folk roots.\n\nI'm the same way with rap where I just absolutely can't stand modern rap and while I don't particularly like it I can definitely listen to and try to appreciate some of the classic stuff. I actually like plenty of jazz and blues that incorporates much of what ended up becoming rap.", "I'm not judging Barbara Walters, or, to a lesser extent, Corey Feldman.\n\nBut what you're pointing out about the industry is dead on.\n\nVague assertions that may have been true about a thin segment of people have ended up creating an unrealistic and universal cloud of suspicion over everyone. Plus there's the bankruptcy of critical thought and fact finding which now exists, and the way people gravitate to believe and then embellish whatever is the most salacious concept over what is supported by evidence and probability.\n\nThose of us who do use those senses are then smeared for doing so.", "Sounds familiar. You express distaste for something? You get an angry lecture.\n\nI couldn't display any strong non-positive emotions about anything - even an inanimate object, even an abstract idea - because someone would take offense to it.\n\nThis is as much about regulating your own emotions as understanding what makes other people emotional.", ">\r \n**think they are so much better than those filthy \"rednecks\" they look down upon.**\r \n\r \nStudy after study proves that we are, in fact.\n\nYeah. You are Barbara Walters, and no, I am not a \"redneck.\" Grew up in NYC and knew many people just like you.", "For those who don't know, Dolly Parton is an incredibly prolific *songwriter*. I'm talking about loads and loads of songs, not just her own, and not just in her assumed genre. \n\nAnd since industry structures pay the songwriter as much as the performer, it has also made her incredibly rich, far more than what a famous country singer might be expected to have earned. \n\nShe quietly and humbly uses her immense wealth for various philanthropic purposes.", "She was just tired of his whining of \"I'll tell everyone if they pay me\". Could've helped a lot of kids out, but instead it was all about Corey Feldman IF what he was saying was true at the time.\n\nI mean was there a lot of that kind of shit happening at the time and continues to happen today and also happened before he came around? Yes. Absolutely yes. But he did nobody any favors by saying \"It's happening, but I won't say by who, unless you give me money!\"", "Read the other comment in this thread. Corey Feldman was definitely abused but he was also a conman who was pushing for money.", "There are still great interviewers out there, but I find they're mostly on pubic radio these. Chris Power on CBC comes to mind. I can't bare celebrity gossip, but his interviews are crazy intelligent and go places you don't expect them to go.", "That hoe was a stunner. Dolly Parton wasn't half bad either.", "This right here is some grade A apologetics. Well done.", "There is a place for all music. If you don't like it, your spirit and body is in wrong place.\nI am in a death metal band. Who listens to jazz when I weld. Oldies when I'm nostalgic. Country when I'm hunting. Dub when I game. Rap when I'm feeling silly. Pop Disney when I'm with my kids. Etc etc etc. It's all enjoyable", "> I don't care about ridin' around with my boys in our pickups. Love stories about the girl next door don't appeal to me. I don't care about drowning your sorrows in whiskey or beer.\n\nSo you don't like horrible country music. What a revelation.", "I used to not be able to stand it. They put it on at work every day where I used to work and it would drive me nuts.\n\n\nNow it’s literally all I listen to.", "I may not have heard every country song that exists, but I've heard enough to know I don't enjoy it, and that's ok. I'd never knock someone for their taste in music, I've been through some weird phases myself. That being said, there was a country guy did that the half time show of one of the Thanksgiving NFL games and he just reaffirmed my belief that there is a \"male country singer sound\" and almost all of them have it, they all sound basically the same. I think of it like how pilots like to speak like Chuck Yeager, country singers are all trying to sound like someone, I just don't know who it is.", "....how do you feel about hip hop then?", "So you don’t like pop country? There are lots of other kinds out there that are far more interesting.", "You are giving her way too much credit. There were so many other ways she could've set Dolly up to give spectacular responses without coming off as a bitter, envious woman.", "It’s just shitty pop music marketed to a different demographic, nothing more, nothing less.", "Yeah I've seen the movie, but it's still a statement.", "Barbara Walters doesn't need any help doing that.", "I like Norm Macdonalds take on how Walter is the worst because she really contributed to the whole \"celebrities are important\" culture we have", "Fair. I'm blanking on the movie honestly.", "He named people. Would you know who these people were? No. And the people he named were basically nobodies in the Hollywood system and had no credits to their names since the 90's. One of them was already a convicted sex offender.\n\n\nHe made accusations against Charlie Sheen also. He claimed Charlie Sheen abused Corey Haim but since Haim has passed away its only Feldman's word against Charlie Sheen. Not saying Charlie Sheen is a saint but after all the years of Corey Feldman pushing this big Hollywood pedophile ring and then delivering practically nothing to prove it, its hard to believe anything he says.", "She’s so lovely.", "Respect.", "Or maybe some styles dont appeal to everybody afterall...", "Sometimes I have to wonder if Barbara Walters’s questions might be scripted as “devil’s advocate” types of things to say in order to make the interviewee seem better, because my god, Dolly Parton seem perfectly prepared to rebuke all the garbage coming out of Walters’s mouth. Walters seems to often ask antagonizing questions. Parton is pure gold.", "How often are you listening to rap or hip hop songs that are about small comfort living?", "44 years later and she's still married to her husband, as predicted.", "I love listening to her talk because she’s great, but also because she’s from the same part of the south as my momma was — and she talked almost exactly the same way. That same cadence, that same lilt, that same colorfully descriptive language and polite digressions. It brings me right back to how she used to talk to us growing up.", "You're right, if you change the all the words and the tone, it comes off looking really rude.", "She's been on that list for decades, my man.", "I agree 100%. If you ever get a hankering for non-generic country, I strongly suggest Turnpike Troubadours. Their songs tell more of a story than the typical girl get in the truck and find a back road crap that's on the radio.", "This video is a nice metaphor for the divide in the states these days. Also Barb is a cunt", "I lol at it. Kinda funny we as a society are phasing out any form of sexism and homophobia, with certain exemptions. . .", "Barbra had no tact in the firs 2 minutes of this video. Dolly danced around everyone of those insulting questions.", "It is, thanks.", "My kids get books from her monthly, it is a fantastic program. My oldest daughter is so excited to check the mail for them", "Hey, just say nothing next time", "You are very dumb and haven’t listened to shit. Shut the fuck up and do some more digging", "That walters is a rude, jealous bitch. Sean Connery should a slapped her good", "What’s the rude question? Almost every one of them is rude.", "That’s what was asked. Also “are you a joke” wasn’t even changed words, she literally asked that exactly", "I prefer a country-folk modern style like Gregory Alan Isakov and Jason Isbell. The storytelling is great.", "Barbra Waters has been married 4 times to 3 different people and at the time of the interview had just had her second divorce a year earlier.", "She also gave out tens of thousands of dollars to families affected by the huge Gatlinburg fire. At one point she was giving $1000/mo to every family affected by the fire for about 6-9 months.", "Hilarious knowing what a hoe bag Barbara Walters used to be", "Actually, she asked \"do you ever feel that you're a joke, that people make fun of you?,\" so it's not literally what she asked. But even still, there's context to consider. She's asking about how she feels about her public perception, not actually calling her a joke.", "Dolly is too pure for this world.", "It’s completely true though. People won’t want to admit it because what’s fashionable tends to be what the majority is doing and the majority of people aren’t going to admit all they’re doing is following the herd, but that’s all fashion is. And like she says, being fashionable is easy. You just copy what everyone else is doing.", "Country music can be divided into many different eras, but with regards to overall quality and/or authenticity, I divide country music into two eras: Pre-Shania’s *Come On Over* and post-Shania’s *Come on Over*. That album was actually released in different mix/masters, one “country” and one “pop.” That album REALLY blended country with pop, and every artist afterward had to either choose between a more “country” sound and missing out on mainstream appeal, or leaning toward a more “pop” sound and possible alienate their base or feel like they were selling out. \n\n(lots of things happened, then:)\n\nFlorida/Georgia Line released a single with fucking NELLY. Imagine Garth Brooks releasing a song featuring Ice-T in the early 90s. It never would have happened. But Shania made country as mainstream as possible, and it’s slowly just become pop music about fucking your cousin in a cornfield.", "You're a nut, you're crazy in the coconut!", "It’s clear that she’s all around intelligent.", "This is such a reductive view on country music. Even if you stayed fully within Dolly’s own discography you would find such rich, deep content that goes so far beyond those topics.", "She also helped fund the Moderna covid vaccine.", "Epstein had three private jets that he lent out to anybody who could use them to ingratiate himself to the wealthy and powerful. Do you really think that everybody who flew on his planes was involved with young girls?\n\nEpstein operated out of New York and Miami, not Hollywood. Feldman still never named him.", "I think she's asking the questions that are on people's minds. I don't think she is asking for herself.", "TIL Kid Rock is a country musician.", "She’s become America’s national treasure, like David Attenborough in the UK. What a wonderful person she seems to be.", "Woah woah woah woah.\n\nAre you saying that the same Barbara Walters who accused child rape victims of \"ruining the industry for everyone else\" after speaking up.... you're saying this woman doesn't have it all together? I'm shocked! Shocked! (I'm not shocked, this was sarcasm and I'm very aware she doesn't have it all together).", "Not really a fan of country music either, but I was going to say \"9 to 5\". \n\nThen realised it does indeed have a verse about being in a boat (as a metaphor, but still).", "... I'd never thought about it this way. She can take off her wig and drastically change her appearance. The stage look the more uncomfortable one. thanks!", "You mean the free vacation to a private Caribbean island with a palatial resort?", "Will Farrell in Blades of Glory (I had to look it up)", "Yeah I don’t think people understand how interviews work. They may come across as crass, which they are, but they were effective at getting the kind of answers that made for a great interview and that’s the whole goal. It also depends on who you’re asking. Obviously Dolly had no problem with them and I’m sure Barbara knew she wouldn’t, so they weren’t asked with malice. She’s also mostly bringing up things that other people say about her. This is what people say about you; here’s your chance to respond. Now we have a good idea of who Dolly actually is compared to what people say about her. It’s a fantastic interview.", "I'll give them a listen. It's hard finding new music I actually enjoy, and for the most part feel like my interest in discovering music was gone by 25 so my usual listening habits are cemented in the stuff I listened to before and in college. Good to hear there's at least some worthwhile country music being released, though I somehow doubt they make it to radio.", "Imagine Cardi B getting the same interview… 😂😂", "The strength Barbara Walters has - and one of the reasons she's had such a long career - is she can ask questions that get as close to the line as possible and maybe even cross it, but she is able to do it in such a disarming way that you don't even notice. \n\nI mean, she basically asks Dolly, \"Are your tits real?\" which is obviously really rude to ask a woman, but she frames it in a way where she makes it sound like she's embarrassed to ask, and it's not really coming from her. Her \"assistant\" asked, and she \"wouldn't have the nerve otherwise\", but come on, she wouldn't have asked that question on national television if she really had any reservations about it. I'm sure Walters isn't taking suggestions for questions from her assistant, but she's smart enough to know just coming out and directly asking, \"Is that all you?\" would be something Dolly might take offense at, but this gives her the out of being able say it wasn't really from *her* and easily shift gears to empathize with Dolly's offense to keep the interview going.\n\nI'm not going to say I like Walters, but I don't think it's any accident she has had a career that spans decades and has involved her interviewing pretty much everyone. She knows how to get what she wants from her guest and how to ask questions other interviewers might not be able to get away with asking while still keeping the guest at ease.", "I'm buying you a beer", "That's what drove home what she was saying here for me. Lucky man.", "Just means that you understand emotions. Yours and others.", "Dolly is a national treasure", "What a wonderful and intelligent human being!", "Thank you for posting this. I never heard the scope of the question laid out like this.", "+1 on Gregory Alan Isokov\n\nIncredible record maker and possibly even a better performer. Very beautiful and contemplative music.", "Walters has proven herself to be a dumb bitch on multiple occasions. She fucking sucks.", "Tennessee wanted to put up a statue of her and her response was perfect. \n\nhttps://twitter.com/DollyParton/status/1362431803391377409?t=n4j4uZo_WCDWMxjjLzERoQ&s=19", "I forgot she fucking said that. Goddamn—what a detached, awful thing to say.", "THANK YOU for this post! I am so tired of people circle jerking over Feldman’s BS all the time.", "No one who carried water for Roy Cohn is a good person... He's a bastard. She's a bastard for defending him.", "The Dao of Dolly.", "Barbara Walters is a bitch", "> Imagine Garth Brooks releasing a song featuring Ice-T in the early 90s.\n\nThis sounds so much like exactly the kind of thing that would have happened in the early 90's that I'm going to go google it and make sure it didn't actually happen.", "Let me explain this to you in a way that you might understand.\n\nThere's a pedophile ring operating within the New York Yankees. I can't actually tell you who's involved, because then I won't get to play for the Yankees, but trust me, it exists. I bet you're wondering which members of the Yankees organization are involved, but I won't ever reveal who they are.\n\nJeffrey Epstein attended a large number of New York Yankees games over the past few decades. The connections are obvious.", "Tyler Childers, Sturgill Simpson, Trampled by Turtles, Orville Peck. There's a lot of great country nowadays\n\nedit: adding Zach Bryan because his song Godspeed is amazing", "I don't think the world will miss Dolly. She'll live forever.", "Yeah this was a way to allow Dolly Parton the chance to address the popular, shitty sentiments in a controlled atmosphere imo. Those are all softballs that you can tell she knows are not nice things to ask, and they seem designed to give her the platform to shut them down.", "These new hillbillies are not the same as they used to be.", "More like they are about living on the streets and committing crimes", "Some folk, Americana and more rootsy country can be good. Hell I don’t mind a little bluegrass depending on the tune and my mood but as a whole I’ve not found country a palatable genre for me. It’s a matter of taste sure, but I just find a lot of it doesn’t appeal to me in the slightest.", "Finally i have a reason to tell this Barbara Walters story: I worked at a luxury retailer about 20 years ago. We had a lot of celebrity clients and one day my manager was fuming about Barbara Walters, because she was notorious for buying clothes and returning them after wearing them. They always knew because they reeked of perfume.", "What the fuck Barbara?", "Jolene", "She is who should be as a statue for Tennessee in Congress", "You don't worry, Feldman will out the abusers once we pay him enough. That is, if his fundraiser isn't \"being hacked in real time!\"\n\nHe's a con-man and she had every right to question his legitimacy.", "patronizing questions", "That's really beautiful. I like your outlook on music and life.", "No offense to Norm, but that’s a stupid take. Celebrity culture has been around since the earliest days of Hollywood at least. If anything celebrities might have been even bigger back then in terms of cultural prominence. I mean for Christ’s sake one of them was elected governor of California and then president!", "Could anyone recommend a good biography on Dolly? The more I hear from her, about her, the more interested I become. Cheers!", "[Look at this friggin mansion](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFEZOjtrwls)\n\nJust like every genre there are mainstream versions of it played by popular people. The music is still good if you look a little.", "At the time of this old recording, I totally believe that. Today however, no, it's all about getting that soundbyte and there's no better soundbyte than the ones which come from tearing people down.", "Queen", "Fashion lasts a season; style lasts forever.", "You have it backwards. Tabloid culture are the ones calling her a dumb hick. Barbara is only presenting her what other people say about her. This is what people say about you; here’s your chance to respond. And in the end, she gets to prove all those people wrong and show who she really is. That’s true journalism. One is giving you one sided rumors and judgments. One is giving you both sides and the opportunity to make up your own mind. \n\nWe live in an age where the true purpose of journalism has been so lost that not only can people not recognize it when they see it, but it actually offends them.", "Dolly Parton speaking some truth! Barbara Walters came across as pathetic.", "There is a court case going on right now about this. You have defended Walters an obsessive amount on this topic. Weird stuff", "Dolly Parton is a gem and I hope she lives Betty White years.", "And when Dolly said freedom, Waters implied it as open marriage, at least that's how I read it, by asking why even get married if you want freedom (paraphrase). Even if, and that's a big IF, we can give her other questions benefit of the doubt, I don't see how we can excuse this question. Waters has no decency.", "Barbara Walters will be remembered as someone who shielded some of the most despicable people in America.", "As a non country music fan, and not from the country myself, you are indeed very dumb and haven't listened to shit if you think all country music is like that. Take /u/mydrunkuncle's advice and listen to a bigger range of it before you shit on the whole genre.", "Check out the Mike judge country music series", "It was fashionable in certain circles to push back on country music in the late 70's, a time during which all of self-described *modern* America was intoxicated by the drug known as \"disco\". Walters was on a faltering ABC while CBS had been cleaning up with the enormously popular country variety show \"Hee Haw\"- something Parton had appeared on many, many times. \n\nWhile this looks like bunch of swipes at Parton, personally, IMO no small part of this is one network trying to ridicule a performer on a competing network. Walters hasn't ever had any problem punching down on interviewees if she thought the audience or the network would cheer along the beating. \n\nI'm not saying this is the 100% cause for her being an absolute piece of shit to Dolly, but it definitely played into it.\n\n>Dolly is such a class act.\n\nShe really is.", "The books are always great too", "2020 was the wrath of Barbra Walter's.", "[Here's a great Radiolab podcast about her.](https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/radiolab/articles/radiolab-presents-dolly-partons-america) It's fantastic.", "> I don’t want to hate on Barbara Walters too much.\n\nHonestly, it's ok to \"hate on\" Walters. \n\nRemember, this is the same woman that told Corey Feldman that he was \"[damaging an entire industry](https://www.newsweek.com/barbara-walters-accuses-corey-feldman-damaging-entire-industry-pedophilia-accusations-1525167)\" with his [likely accurate] pedophilia accusations. Note that her concern wasn't as to whether the accusations were *accurate*, only that they were harmful to the showbiz industry. It's hard to respect someone after something like that.", "I've said it before and I'll say it again. Dolly is truly a national treasure. Aside from her very obvious singing and musical talents (which, to be clear, she was a once in a lifetime *generational* talent) she did tremendous amounts of work for feminism and racial issues and did it with such aplomb and tact she managed to not sabotage her career in the process as so many did before and after her. It's hard to appreciate just how domineering and male driven the music industry was in that era. Dolly was sharp as a whip and knew how to work those who were trying to manipulate her. I mean just look at this interview in the post... she oozed charisma. And this doesn't even scratch the surface. Incredibly intelligent, morally uncompromising, and boy can she sing. And guys.. I mean my god, does it need to be said? Dolly in her prime was a fucking smokeshow -- the woman is beauty in motion. Lord mercy, her jawline and her figure when she was a young thing..... anyways, lol. If you get the opportunity check out her autobiography. She really does have a captivating way with words. I think it's called My Life and Other Unfinished Business.", "I'm living proof of that.", "What’s next for Babs?", "[Bo Country](https://youtu.be/y7im5LT09a0)\n\n~~May I have some of this potent quotable? Oh, Hey Tom!~~", "[please point out your topics in this song](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHJhyrrUTgc)", "Half right.", "I agree 100%. If you ever get a hankering for non-generic country, I strongly suggest Turnpike Troubadours.", "That's a fair point. Though maybe it can be argued that she really threw gasoline on that fire and contributed to the modern version of the culture heavily", "A few very different songs under the Country umbrella:\n\n[Tyler Childers - Lady May](https://youtu.be/yxfo4Jfpc-c)\n\n[Maren Morris - The Bones](https://youtu.be/gvPMVKUI9go)\n\n[Waylon Jennings - Good Hearted Woman](https://youtu.be/_VlZFJB4BB4)", "Man Dolly Parton is the best.", "She's too perfect. I have this feeling about her, unsubstantiated by any evidence of course, that one day we are going to find out something truly terrifying about Dolly Parton.\n\nEdit: Downvote all you want, but you'll see. You'll ALL see", "Also, for what it's worth, I completely agree with you.", "Asking a person from the poor rural Tennessee if she's a hillbilly and you are fine with it. Asking a person from the Skid Row if they are a thug and you go bananas. Using a derogatory term to describe people based on their place of origin is discrimination, end of discussion. There are very limited occasions you can do it but not when you are a journalist interviewing people, not on national TV.", "Barbara Walter's is a trashy ratings chasing mockery of journalism. Not sure why people give her the time of day.", "Pretty much all of them, it seemed to me.", "That's why the quote didn't jump out at me. That's not one of the Ferrell movies I've watched more than once.", "I kept waiting for the rude question until I realized that all the questions were rude, and extremely judgmental. Fuck Barbara Walters and her pedo sympathizing bullshit.", "Yeah, I feel you. Most of it has that \"twang\" and I have a hard time getting past it. I've listened to bluegrass, pop country, old country, crossover stuff, old stuff like Dolly, Willie Nelson, Johnny Cash, Hank Williams, Merle Haggard, John Denver, The Statler Brothers, Glen Campbell, and Conway Twitty... there are a handful of songs I like but the genre generally just does not appeal to me. And like you said, that's okay. I'm not sure why anyone would expect people to sift through a bunch of music that doesn't appeal to them just to see.\n\n​\n\n​\n\nSure, maybe there's some country singer out there I would LOVE if I heard them... but why in the world would I continue to dig through a mountain of stuff I don't care for to *maybe* find it? I wouldn't expect my parents to sit through hours of hardcore gangsta rap just to discover they kinda-sorta like a couple of Childish Gambino tracks.", "Oh? Which court case would that be?\n\nI'm not defending Walter's as much as i'm attacking Corey Feldman for, in his words, allowing a large scale pedophile ring made up of the rich and powerful to operate in Hollywood for 20+ years.", "She also donated one million dollars towards the research on the Moderna vaccine. Thanks Dolly!", "If you haven't heard there's a a fantastic podcast that covers Dolly's life and music\n\nhttps://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/dolly-partons-america", "That's true for people with no recognition. An artist can easily influence the public with their choice of clothing.", "Nope, didn't happen, but in my early '90s cd collection the Garth Brooks CDs were right behind Body Count.", "Ghislaine Maxwell Trial going on now.", "Oh great that's in my head again now. That shit was *surreal*", "Pretty funny hearing Barbara Walters question Dolly Partons marriage when dolly has been married to the same man (Carl Dean) since 1966 whereas Barbara Walters has burned through four marriages since 1955.", "“Are you a hillbilly? Are your tits fake? Why don’t you let your husband own you?”", "Not a huge fan of her music but she genuinely seems like a wonderful person by everything I’ve ever heard about her.", "There is plenty of country that doesn't sound like Garth Brooks dogshit. I don't care if you hate country because I don't like it either, but it doesn't all sound like that.", ">we are going to find out something truly terrifying about Dolly Parton.\n\nThat she is merely mortal and one day she will no longer be with us", "\"This a celly,\" but you still make a good point.", "You sold me on it :)", "No, Katie Couric is the worst. But Barbara is top 5 worst.", "God damn, she buried her over and over.", "And that's related to Corey Feldman how exactly?\n\nCorey has literally never named Epstein in any way, and Epstein operated out of NYC and Miami, not Holllywood or California. Are you saying that any child sex trafficking happening anywhere in the world is proof that Corey Feldman was right about a large scale Hollywood pedophile ring that he's allowed to operate for 25+ years?", "What an obnoxious woman Walters is. Doesn’t she realize the person who is I front of her? I wonder why some people thought she was a “good reporter”. A good reporter would have found the way to gain Dolly affection and trust and then in her own dolly would have open herself and talk. Walter is an obnoxious blunt idiot.", "\"So Dolly, were your tits big when you were in 5th grade?\"", "Thank you, friend", "Walters was so incredibly rude that I had to pause and shake my head at around 1:30. Dolly is pure class. You can’t teach that, Barbara.", "Dolly Parton isn't a raging asshole. That's all is needed.", "What’s disturbing is that you have indeed listened to “thousands” of country songs and you just hate it. Are you doing ok?", "Just played a show with him a few nights ago. Such a great performer and a very down to earth and humble guy.", "tl;dr\n\nSmart as fuck and hot as hell.\n\nAlso, she sings like an angel.", "I could not agree with you more. National fucking treasure.", "What a POS interviewer", "Dooooo it. I think there's a audio version she narrates that I'm sure is great if you're into audio books. That said she has such a way with words her voice and accent practically comes off the page directly into your brain. Either way it's a great read.", "This was proposed in a bill in TN but she said she didn’t want it to be her. It wasn’t explicitly said but I took it to mean she thought it should be of someone who fought explicitly for racial justice. Another reason she is a true treasure!", "Jeez, that has been a misheard lyric for me this whole time. Thanks for that.", "I grew up in a city larger than your hometown. I went to a college likely not much worse than your alma mater. I live in a house likely more expensive than yours. My living room drapes stuck and I call a guy to fix it. The closest thing to country life was pulling grass probably 10 years ago. I've donated to DNC, and have multiple letters from Democrats in my drawer including one from Pelosi. I'm with OP on this one. You are no better than the worst Trump supporters. You indeed are the reason why 40% of the country still are behind Trump.", "As kids she was the butt of many jokes due to her breast size, but it wasn't until years later that I was able to fully appreciate her as a person. Makes me feel awful that we used to joke around about her without knowing anything about her character. \n\nI can't say I'm a fan of her music, although she's incredibly talented, but she's fucking awesome.", "One of these women is among the greatest living Americans. The other one is Barbara Walters.", "Lil Nas covered a song of hers. I wasn't a big fan of the cover, but Dolly appreciated it and gave him props and the entire right got mad at Dolly cause Lil Nas is gay and she praised him instead of admonished.", "Reddit will find something to hate her for one day, it happens to most famous people...", "Rather find out she killed someone or something to be quite honest.", "She's been in the public spotlight for decades and by all accounts just seems like a class act. Hell- look at this interview with Walters. Bitch spends the whole time trying to make Dolly look like she's low class and only succeeds in making her look clever while making herself look like an asshole.", "That fake transatlantic accent is so sad. Walters is such an asshole.", "She spouted that thoughtless comment because Corey Feldman would lazily throw out blanket accusations whenever he wanted to get back into the limelight to promote some dumb project he was working on. He could have named names years and years ago, instead he eventually decided to cash in on it, and when he finally hinted that he'd reveal it in his ridiculously named doc, “My Truth: The Rape of 2 Coreys” he charged 20 bucks for the right to stream it online, and then fumbled around to even deliver that. Barbara Walters is a smarmy jackass, but she was calling out a grifter.", "I’ve seen a post from someone who claimed to be a waitress where Dolly visited often. She said Dolly can go out in public without make-up, wig, or outlandish clothes and no one recognizes her.", "Hillbilly Madonna.", "I fucking love how he did the old town road and then came out and blew the heads off so many people. Shit was hilarious. Best troll of the year.", "She whooped Jolene's ass, and Jolene's been buried under Dollywood ala Hoffa.", "Right? I was like “which question is OP talking about?”", "would *you* risk your life by providing all that proof?\n\ndidn't think so", "Her story from Drunk History about Porter Wagoner and how she wrote \"I Will Always Love You\" is just incredible. https://youtu.be/mK40qogSdFI", "God Barbara is a cunt. How do people think she’s a credible news reporter?", "that’s some insane female on female savage destruction… walters pretty sure would be cancelled today…", "And here is the queen of democrats trying to call her a trashy hillbilly. Go figure.", "> fucking your cousin in a cornfield.\n\nThis fucking slew me. Someone actually write this song", "We need more women to look at the Dolly Partons of the world as a role model and less at the Marilyn Monroes.", "My son aged out of the program this year, but it was always a pleasant surprise for him to get new book in the mail once a month.", "> not consider her questions as rude\n\nEuropean confirmed.", "I was actually asking which rude question, because there were multiple rude questions when OP's title makes it sound like there was only one.", "she has a high EQ (emotional quotient). the same as someone with high intellect has a high IQ (intelligence quotient). a high EQ is the ability to understand the emotions and intentions of herself and those around her, and to handle and react with calmness to questions that might arise emotional responses from others", "theres a reason norm hated barbara walters", "Doesn't everybody love \"....and IIIIIIIIeeeeeIIIIIIIII WILL ALWAYS LOVE YOUUUUUUUU!\"", "unfortunately many Europeans completely lack tact just like Walters.", "Yeah but then you’re talking about trendsetters and not being fashionable.", "She's amazing. I'm not a huge fan of country, but her singing is fantastic.", "Totally right", "Barbara has always been a cunt", "you should probably add to the end of your comment, \"there were so many\" for clarification.", "If you like podcasts there is a great series called Dolly Parton's America. It is amazing.", "Such odd questions. I knew of dolly since the 70s. I never saw her as a joke, obscene, ignored the shock of her figure. I saw her as very pretty and nice. My best friend growing up was considered “hillbilly”. Nicest family ever. I grew up what most would considered blue collar trash compared to my mom’s side and a boss i worked for. Her dad was an admiral in the navy so she grew up higher class. She also was a dumb bitch.", "What does that mean", "Yeah, that cover was beyond awful in my shitty opinion. Dolly's response was class act though. Anyone who hasn't heard it: https://youtu.be/RWjnC8HSRdU", "Country music is America’s greatest contribution to the arts.", "Emotional intelligence is an actual trait with its own characteristics. In this video, Dolly Parton is clearly attuned to expectations from Walters, the public, and her self. It speaks to a gift many “intelligent” people lack.", "[ **Jump to 01:30 @** Dolly Shuts Down Patronising Interview In Style](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If-oWqUYzlQ&t=0h1m30s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: Happy Mag, Video Popularity: 98.82%, Video Length: [04:02])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@01:25](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If-oWqUYzlQ&t=0h1m25s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)", "Drive By Truckers is good, Honeyhoney is mostly country and mostly good.", "Was about to start quoting some Kanye, but then remembered that song is 90% the n word", "Dolly cast the die that made Lady Gaga possible. Mark my words, Gaga will be the next “joke” that we continue to appreciate more as time goes on. They both have talent oozing from every pore, both have carefully-crafted public personas and, as a result, largely non-existent personal lives as far as the rest of us are concerned. It’s brilliant, really. Be so publicly out there that you’re left alone privately.", "Orville Peck is great. Love me some Nick Shoulders too.", "Barbara’s interview skills are really bad", "Jolene is a jam though", "When the fires in the Smokies wiped out so many families life’s Dolly really stepped up and helped out her community and the people in need. Dolly is a legend here in East TN. She’s done so much for the whole region.", "She's also invested wisely in other businesses - Dollywood (a theme park with 3 million annual visitors, on par with many other big-name parks around the country) is the obvious example but far from the only one.", "Thank you for the link, I actually liked it.", "Barbara Walters was named in court. The same lady you’ve been defending this entire time.", "There’s a reason people disliked baba waters earlier in her career. This is an example of why.", "I second this. I dont listen to country and only knew her name because she's famous. Amazing podcast, listened to the first episode cause a friend insisted, and got hooked.", "Yeah fair point.\n\nHer delivery was open to misinterpretation though.\n\nGood analysis of it you did though", "Everybody should listen to this at least once. It's such a laid back, humorous, informative, wholesome and heartwarming podcast. I found it just had that certain something that hooked me from the start, gave me some really sweet stories, interviews and some new perspectives and a whole new appreciation for Dolly Parton and her influence on others. \n\nEasily in the top 5 for a casual listen.", "I don't know a lot about Barbara Walters, but if we're talking about just this video I would have to disagree. I think she realizes that this is one of the few opportunities many people have to gain insight into a world that most people think they know, but actually don't. \n\n\nShe's giving Dolly an opportunity to talk about her culture and herself, where she grew up, what helped make her who she is. By asking \"are you a hillbilly?\" Barbara is also giving Dolly an opportunity to dispel the notions people might have when they hear that word, and Dolly seizes on that eloquently.", "I’m not a country music fan but Jolene and I Will Always Love You still hit hard", "I have the opposite feeling, zero chance we find out she’s done something extremely bad. She’s human, so maybe some poor choices, but no way she has gone really bad without someone saying something.", "Now that’s true class! I love you Dolly!", "I thought Gaga was already better understood and appreciated. At least for me since her duets with Tony Bennett, she’s been letting more of the layers behind her persona come through. Her acting career is still confusing but clearly a wonderful human", "I'd personally draw that line at Garth Brooks.", "Thanks to her get-up on stage she can basically go through normal life anonymously. It is an incredible move by her.", "Dolly 2024?!", "Garth built a lot of mainstream heat without really “going pop.” Like Dolly, he was just so good that even folks who weren’t fans of country music dug his stuff.", "To be fair, I disliked her later in her career as well.", "I'll do that! Thanks for the recommendation!", "Hard Candy Christmas!", "Barbara Walters had a sandpaper vagina.", "Barbara Walters is a real piece of shit", "I lost ALL respect for her when she defended the Hollywood molesters when Corey Feldman tried to out them. As a woman in media since the 50s she KNOWS how fucked up shit is behind scenes\n\nEdit: I guess I should have clarified. I was talking about her immediate response after his claims on the show about how it would damage the industry. I interpreted that as taking people down would harm Hollywood and she didn’t want that.", "I don’t think anyone is saying that, though. Walters is the one who brought up the expected longevity of Parton’s marriage. So that same intrusive and condescending approach is brought back to Walters - only fair.", "Charley Crockett and Nick Shoulders are great too.", "Dunno. He's super poppy when you compare it to earlier country. He absolutely caught some heat for it at the time too. He's what made it possible for Twain to do what she did.", "Mate, for me it's \"Coat of many colours\", such a touching song.", "Try these two on for size and let me know what you think \n\nhttps://youtu.be/FmAwFPqHTe0\n\nhttps://youtu.be/s3yaH5vsmiI", "Nat Dolly. She's a national treasure. Just have to keep her safe from nick cage.", "I agree with you. I don't think it's that bad. Pretty decent cover overall.", "Barbara Walters was named along literally everybody else who ever flew on one of Epstein's airplanes. Federal authorities are speaking with anybody with even a loose association with Epstein to find out if they were witnesses to his depravity.\n\nAgain, I'm not defending Walters, I'm just pointing out what a big piece of shit Corey Feldman is.", "They responded already, numbnuts. They very politely said you were wrong and explained why. With zero malice at all. \n\nYou took it up your ass and started calling names. Who's the prick now???", "Are you a hillbilly? \nDid you look like this as a kid? \nAre your boobs real? \nDo you ever feel you are a joke and people make fun of you? \nDolly: \"My husband gives me freedom\" \nBW: Then why get married?\n\nBarbara Walters is an ass but Dolly Parton is a class act.", "why did anyone ever like barbara walters?", "Dolly Partin is a saint, and a model American.\n\nBarbara Walters is a piece of shit, a nasty provocateur, and a whore of the kleptocracy.", "Damn, that was amazing. \n\nThe rasp in his voice and the way it sounded like Jolene had already taken his man was almost too much. \n\nI can see why she liked it!", "Inb4 \"Barbara making herself look like trash\"", "You're a fool to try it more than once. And once is one too many times. Stupid archaic meaningless tradition", "She is a class act", "She's Miley Cyrus' godmother", "Her speaking voice is so lovely.", "Ghislaine Maxwell is on trial right now.", "I'm a bit unsettled by the fact you kept using the past tense TBH.", "She's so amazing", "That's why she's the worst? What a joke.", "Don't you dare disrespect my Dolly, Barbara. Don't you goddamn dare.", "Except she is on a whole other level of beauty, that is an amazing naturally beautiful woman.\n\nI do get what you're saying but the resemblance is in passing alone.", "Man Barbara Walters was a bitch. Dolly is so smart.", "Every question was phrased in a way as to imply that Dolly is somehow a lesser person than her public-facing image. When in fact, Dolly is exactly who she portrays herself to be.\n\nThis interview perfectly shows why being a good and honest person is the ultimate weapon against critics. People can't call you on your bullshit if you're not slinging any.", "Sorry…rude “question”…surely it should be rude “questions” - every one of those seemed rude!!", "Where is the rudeness?....", "Dolly Parton is pure class. A genuinely sweet and kind, a self-assured but modest person who goes out of her way to help others.\n\nAll of the questions from Walters were kinda insulting, imo. They weren't interesting or thought-provoking, seemed like she was just desperately trying to get her to say something they could use as a scoop or quote out of context.", ">\"Are you a dumb hick?\"\n\nShe's not calling her a dumb hick, she's asking Dolly to talk about the misconceptions \"someone like me\" might have about someone like Dolly. The whole interview is Barbara allowing Dolly to correct the record on what people think of her", "She dug back to Barbara’s dumb questions. \n\nShe insulted her upbringing, career, and looks. Dolly threw it all back in her face. \n\nShe said she can wear the makeup because she’s secure with who she is. The camera pans to Barbara’s barely makeup wearing pissed face.", "Sounds like a good cast for a wholesome heist movie called National Treasure 4", "I don't listen to Dolly's music, but I think she's awesomely talented. More importantly, she is just an awesome human being - one of the best out there among the people I only know because of their celebrity.", "Barbara Walters is the \"queen\" of democrats? Are you recovering from your coma well?", "you’ve answered a question i’ve had for a long time but never knew where to ask. Didn’t know that songwriters get just as much as the artist", "Kind of a misleading title. It’s a good interview because it elicits such a strong response. Because of those questions, I learned something about Dolly Parton I hadn’t known.", "Dolly Parton is cool. Barbara Walters is human shit.", "If you have not listened to it yet, Dolly Partons America on NPR is fantastic.\n\n[https://www.npr.org/podcasts/765024913/dolly-parton-s-america](https://www.npr.org/podcasts/765024913/dolly-parton-s-america)\n\nI cannot recommend it enough. Also Dolly rocks! I had a daughter two years ago and every month she mails her a free book to our house! My daughter now asks to check the mail every day waiting for her books! \n\nShe is an incredible person!", "She wrote fucking Jolene and I Will Always Love You in one day. And even if that's a bit apocryphal and they were both done in a short period of time, it's damned amazing", "Dolly is so gracious/kind/intelligent and really took the high road over and over again here. I’m sure she wouldn’t care for this but Barbara was acting like a real cunt.", "Just listened to it and I thought it wasn't amazing, but it was decent. I wouldn't call it bad at all. Curious what makes you think it was beyond awful?", "The point is that in hindsight, the question makes Barbara look like she has egg on her face.", "9 to 5 is overplayed but it absolutely slaps.", "It's this.", "Npr did a whole series on dolly loosely based around the notion that you honestly can't find a single person who has anything bad to say about her, and that she's universally found to be a good person.", "I’d even say it goes deeper. People have always worshiped idols. Now they’re made of glossy paper instead of wood or jade.", "You don't have to enjoy Dolly Parton's music to appreciate what a great human she is.", "I'm not sure that Joe Rogan fancies himself an interviewer though.\n\nAs for Barbara Walters in this interview- her style reminds me quite a bit of Howard Stern here and I don't think she was nearly as insulting as others are suggesting.", "Love her love her love her.\n\nDolly is the best. Anyone who underestimates her is an idiot.", "Everybody seem to have a negative response to his cover in the comments which made me believe that the cover was over the top (not that that would have been bad either but people tend to hate that). But when listening to it, holy fuck was it extremely sincere. One might argue it was a little too safe but I think you can tell the sincerity in not only how he sang but his butterfly necklace. A genuine understanding of the artist and the source material. I really can’t understand the hate besides the obvious religious one.", "Nobody's perfect.", "She’s a winner in my book, hallmark movies and all.", "Looking back at old Barbara Walters interviews, she often comes across as a total bitch.", "Insert ronswansonthrowingcomputerindumpster.gif", "I liked it, and it does sound like he's about to lose her.", "I don’t agree with the OP’s comment, but your reply is a special kind of asshole-ish response. I’m a liberal. That does not make me inherently better than anybody. I do think my beliefs are generally correct, or I wouldn’t believe in them. But I am not better as a person than a “redneck” just because they’re a redneck.", "Your right that she’s skilled, but she is still a jerk. I don’t think one dissolves the other in any meaningful way. If she was interviewing a politician about something important, those tactics would be more redeeming. But she was talking to a singer, it was unnecessary. The same way impressive swordsmanship stops being redemptive if you’re stabbing a parrot.", "Every time I've ever checked this it says it's unavailable in my area. Do I have bad timing or is there something about where I live being anti-Dolly?", "Jolene,\n\nJolene, \n\nJolene,\n\nJoLENE~", "I think I know who Sean Connery was taking about now.", "What a cunt!", "she wrote them on the same day.", "Gucci gucci louis lois fendi fendi prada. Them basic bitches wear that shit so I don't even bothuh!", "Babwa wawa", "That song hit #1 with 3 different artists in 3 different decades!", "I mean….\n\n…. Oh, you mean Dolly. LoL yes I agree 😹", "A friggin national treasure!", "Yeeeessss. My favorite Christmas song that I feel like most people have not heard", "She's the worst because of [shit like this. ](https://www.newsweek.com/barbara-walters-accuses-corey-feldman-damaging-entire-industry-pedophilia-accusations-1525167)", "I believe it was also her production company that produced the Sarah Michelle Geller Buffy the Vampire Slayer series.", "It's cool that you have a wide and eclectic appreciation for music, but don't shame people for not liking everything. People just have preferences, and that's ok.", "Grab a kazoo lets have a tune", "Barbara Walters comes off as insecure. I love Dolly, she seems to live an honest life.", "Baba Wawa is a classless bitch", "I get those books every month, my wife signed up a few months before she died and now my kids get books from her foundation every month with her name on it dedicated to them.\n\nIt’s a great charity!", "If you haven't listened to this yet, you should. \n\nhttps://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/dolly-partons-america", "I agree. I still prefer Dolly's version, but I think he did a good job. Nothing bad about it.", "All praise be to Dolly P. 🙏🏻", "Also, it’s Mister Rogers, no d. I would normally feel pedantic pointing that out, but the name is literally all your saying about him.", "Not only is he gay, he’s ***black.*** 😱", "Case closed folks. They were nobodies.", "Good lord, what an extraordinarily good example of a human being.\n\nI’ll have whatever she’s having!", "But Dolly seems very happy in her 55 year marriage whereas Barbara is obviously miserable in all hers because she keeps getting divorced. \n\nDolly: \"My husband gives me freedom\" \nBarbara: Then why even get married at all?\n\nBarbara obviously has no idea what she is doing. Dolly knows what she wants and has it.\n\nI say this as someone with a vow to never be married at all. I feel that makes me a better happier person. But if I were the marrying kind I would want to be like Dolly.", "That’s just alphabetical order tho", "It's also worth checking out the Country Side of Harmonica Sam, Jason Eady, James McMurtry, Mike and the Moonpies, and Jessie Daniel. All modern takes on some older form of country and can lead you to artists similar to them.", "If I’ve said it once I’ll say 100 more times, Dolly is a goddamn Queen and she doesn’t get the love and respect she deserves.", "Frig off Barb...", "I strongly believe there’s no such thing as bad music. Sure, there’s music I don’t care for, but all genres have something that’s worthwhile.", "I saw an interview with her where she said she made more money off the rights than she did singing it.", "You forgot the most important, nice as fuck.", "\"I got vaccinated because I'm old enough and I'm smart enough\" - Dolly Parton, recently.", "I love the fact that she grew up and was raised an hour away from where I grew up and was raised.\n\nWhen people say Tennesseans are nothing but ignorant racist hicks, all I have to say is what about Dolly Parton?... Shuts them right up. I love her, and I'm proud to call her an ambassador of our state.", "When / why did Republicans try to cancel her?\n\nAnd leftists/woke are the ones famous for \"safe spaces\".", "Then she went on to inspire the human rights movement of females from a homosexual egg laying alien civilization.", "Everyone in my mom's family is from TN. Some of them have personally met Dolly.\n\nYou're right, none of them have anything to say about her that isn't respectful and sincere. She's the real deal human being, even thought she ended up with the kind of money that can ruin many \"normal\" people.", "Now see there, I agree", "I don't disagree, but there have also been attacks from the left. [Here's](https://longreads.com/2018/10/16/living-with-dolly-parton/) one such article, which was then amplified by Vox. E.g.\n\n>Dolly Parton has built her empire on and with the debris of old, racist amusements and wrapped it in working-class signifiers and feminist politics.\n\nI think both are just examples of how negativity-fueled our media is today. She's popular, she's beloved: what could be more attention-getting than trying to tear her down?", "Dolly Parton is deserving of every possible statue we can build of her.", "They have been married since 1966 and he doesn't have a wikipedia page. He is the patron saint of househusbands. He is my goal in live. Marry a top tier hot smart women, that travels for work, makes a lot of money so I can stay at home and just cook stuf and perfect it for when she is home. Then spoil the nephews and nieces and live a fun live.", "Barbara Walters is a scumbag. Good riddance.", "She wrote those on the same day.", "One difference between that Gaga's parents were loaded and could ease her into the industry of her choice. Dolly dragged her whole family - and consequently many others in Pigeon Forge - out of poverty, singlehandedly. She was the family's main breadwinner barely into her teens. Everything Dolly got, she earned through hard work, determination, and *outrageous* talent. We are so lucky to be living in the same era as her, when we can appreciate her best.", "People consistently misunderstand the job of an interviewer like her. I wouldn't go as far as to say I'm a fan of Walters by any means. However there's a point to these interviews. And it gives the interviewee the calm chance to speak to some of these things people harass them about.", "Really loved how smooth his voice was during that song but I agree with you that he probably played it safe compared to his normal self.", "Barbara Walters, always a cunt, forever and always. Fuck her. Her legacy is totally tarnished and she is a massive piece of shit. She is a classless cunt through and through.", "Oh, but she blamed the fake boobs one on a mysterious staffer, so that one was okay.", "It is absolutely criminal that you didn't include [Doc Watson](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCl1emxubWM) in your list of old country worth listening to. He is an absolutely phenomenal (and groundbreaking) guitarist and a great voice (even in this clip when he's deep into his 60s).\n\nIf you're looking for new music, there was some pretty awesome \"Americana\" (gothic country) stuff going on in the 90s/00s.\n\n* David Eugene Edwards (in general) and more specifically [16 Horsepower](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bcg5WnShwHQ) were amazing. Super intense and powerful live, and ranged from beautiful ballads to banging songs about cattle rustling, prostitutes, and damnation.\n\n* A little more tongue in cheek and fun (also an absolutely amazing live show if you ever get a chance to see them) is [Slim Cessna's Auto Club](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hDRxBpyHbc)\n\n* Devotchka, Wovenhand, and The Denver Gentlemen all came out of the same Denver Scene.", "I feel like you're just giving her too much credit.\n\nIn the same year she also shamed Mia Farrow for accusing Woody Allen of sexually assaulting her children.\n\nShe retired that year. A book came out not too long ago where is showed she just treated everyone [like shit](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6899785/Friends-aghast-View-expos-depicts-ailing-Barbara-Walters-cutthroat.html) except of course... Harvey Weinstein.... a personal friend of hers.", "I think there are a lot of sub-genres and I hate how they bundle all the “beer, trucks, & boobs” songs with still like Dolly.", "An artist that's been critically acclaimed for the last decade will continue to be appreciated. Bold take.", "I don’t think she feels ridiculous in her clothes and make up. I think she enjoys it and enjoys dressing up… but she turned it into a brand when she realized she could have fun even if people mocked her for it. Because she’s laughing all the way to the bank. She’s smart AND talented, she uses her shtick, she isn’t the shtick.", "I love Lady Gaga, her album with Tony Bennett, cheek to cheek, is awesome. \n\nBut carefully crafted public personas.... Really?. I don't ever remember seeing a picture of Dolly licking another woman's pussy", "Im just saying that being in one marriage doesn make you better than someone whose been in 4, and it's judgemental as fuck to insinuating that you're you're a worse person for being married more than once.", "It helps that country musicians back in the day tended to release multiple covers of the same songs. And it also helps that some of her songs were megahits. Until Diana died and that [putrid Elton John remake](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o9rLDCfO6o) took the crown, Dolly was part of [the #1 selling single](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JWTaaS7LdU) of all time.", "Dolly Parton is a beautiful human being, inside and out. She has become successful by lifting up other people and helping them in whatever way she can.\n\nBarbara Walters is a shit stain of a human being, inside and out. She has become ~~successful~~ wealthy by tearing people apart and exposing whatever shit she can find.", "So I always assumed Barbara Walters was nice but everything I've seen about her in the last 10 years makes me think she's always been a cunt?", "She is a truly one of those gifts to the world that don’t exist in large numbers. Mister Rodgers, Mr. Burton, Bob Ross.", "They also tried to cancel her because she funded the Moderna vaccine", "> Its a shame all the flak she got in the 70's/80's regarding how she chose to express herself.\n\nShe absolutely knew what she was doing, though, and used it to her advantage. The Ken Burns Country Music episode featuring her rise to fame underlined that. She's uncannily savvy as a businesswoman.", "Barbara Wawa", "I agree, it isn't Nirvana doing \"The man who sold the world\" but it's very solid.", "All of Barb’s questions are rude. She’s just a tacky person.", "100% fair take.", "Lol you ok?", "Dolly Parton is a goddamn national treasure.", "Lesser known fact: she's got a bunch of tattoos", "Yea for sure. It was a live cover in one of those “in the studio” style things. Not exactly like he threw it on an album. He probably could crush it even more if it was going to be album ready. I saw nothing wrong with it.", "Sounds like you are taking that personally. No one is judging you but yourself. No worries. Breathe", "She also helped fund vaccine research during the creation of the covid vaccine. Apparently she funded the development of a vaccine test for moderna. https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/03/03/973240792/from-jolene-to-vaccine-dolly-parton-gets-covid-19-shot-she-helped-fund", "I really appreciate her *huge*,,,, tracts of land.", "I wish I loved anything as much as you love Dolly Parton.", "I thought the cover was pretty good", "Love Dolly’s work to get children access to free books too. She’s remarkable and does what she can to help others. Barbara? No way…only does things to serve herself.", "I truly hope that Barbara Walters is remembered as the disgusting person that she was.", "This is the first I've heard of this, so I'm guessing\n\n>the entire right got mad at Dolly\n\nIs probably a lot of hyperbole", "[*I walk and talk like a fieldhand, but the boots I'm wearin' cost 3 grand*](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7im5LT09a0)", "I mean. For the years of buildup he finally released some names and they were people who had very brief careers in Hollywood. With the amount of time he spent building up this huge pedophile ring you were expected names at level like Weinstein. Instead you got people who literally have four credits to their name on IMDB. Its still awful and wrong what those people did but it wasn't this huge bombshell people were expecting.", "Why are you making this political? Sounds like you don’t feel safe? Dolly is awesome, quit projecting your nonsense into the thread.", "What a disgusting interview Barbra Walters has zero class. How could you even speak to someone like that?", "Oscar Wilde turned in his grave.", "Wow that was so blatantly rude, insulting, and condescending but Dolly took it with class and impeccable composure.", "I’m foggy on the details but after “The Bodyguard” soundtrack took off on the charts Dolly won an award for “I Will Always Love You” which she wrote and thanked Whitney Houston for making her a very wealthy person in her speech.", "Plenty of traditional country had great storytelling, too. [Lefty Frizzell](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50k18gL76AU) and [Marty Robbins](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWm5WErkffQ) were famous for their story songs.", "No she didn't. lol", "I want to slap the ever-livin-shit out of Barbara Walters (so called leader of women's journalism - UGH!) spending the entire interview focused on Dolly's physical attributes rather than her amazing talent and genuine kindness. And Dolly comes out on top, per usual. Dolly, you're my hero!", "She's great. Has and continues to do so much for everyone! Great heart!", "You’re not wrong, but public perception and critical acclaim are different. Ask 100 people on the street the first thing they think of when they hear “Lady Gaga” and 90 or so will say some crazy shit like meat dress. I’m saying give it time and meat dress is gonna fade to the level of “hurrr durr big titties”, and folks will appreciate the person, separation of persona and person, and talent as much as they were fascinated by the persona, as is the case with Dolly Parton.", "Ok. I hate to ask. One of my friends and I say the same about Tom Hanks. Is there something I need to know or is he Keanu status on Reddit too?", "yea and its hot too", "Also, this Walters woman\n\n> your kind of people\n\nHoly Eff. You can tell how she would treat a POC. And the way she asked after this non-public marriage makes me feel like she had divorce as a hobby.\n\nEdit:\n\nanulled\n\ndivorced\n\ndivorced\n\ndivorced\n\nYeah, you could tell. She does not understand a loving lasting relationship. Goddamn is she full of herself. You are not allowed to look down on people, Barb.", "You are portraying Barbara as some 5d chess mastermind. She is not planning on looking like an asshole to elicit a genuine response. She represents conservative mainstream America and her questions are exactly what they mean when they leave her mouth. And nothing more beyond that.", "Ill never forget: \"You're going to ruin an industry!\" When referring to outing all the pedophile rapists in Hollywood she adores.", "I knew it.", "Dental Work New Years!", "You realise there's a hundred years of country music out there to listen to, right? Not just the new shit that they play on radio? Some of country's biggest stars were literally dirt poor: Dolly, Loretta, George Jones, Johnny Cash all came from extreme poverty.", "How could anyone not like Dolly? You look up national treasure, there is her picture. I’m a 40 year old man from New York, Dolly is my hero. Ever since I was a kid, she was always someone to look up to. If I had to choose a celebrity to meet, she would be the one. My kids have grown up to be fans as well. National treasure.", "Someone as precious as Dolly Parton talking to someone as old, creepy, and prodding as Bawbawa Wawtews", "Oh 100%. She created controversy, and rode the wings of fame from it! She was SUPER smart as a businesswoman.", "You’re right that a good interviewer will ask probing questions that elicit meaningful responses, and sometimes those questions aren’t pleasant. \n\nBut in this particular instance, I disagree. In this case, Barbara Walters was simply trolling for a reaction. \n\nShe wanted to make Dolly mad and get press out of it. \n\nEach time Dolly skillfully deflected one of Barbara’s troll attempts Barbara went in for another shot. But Dolly had more stamina and lasted through it. \n\nAnd let’s remember, it’s not like she was interviewing some person in power about controversial decisions that harmed people or something. She wasn’t interviewing a president about a war. \n\nShe was asking Dolly Parton about her clothes, her body, her style, her marriage, and her community. There was no journalistic reason to continually take shots at Dolly like that.", "There weren't any rude questions. People are viewing this from a 2021 me too point of view. And if these questions were asked today yes they would be rude. But in 1977 Dolly Parton was an anomaly and people were very curious about her. And Barbara was asking the questions that a lot of Americans wanted to know at that time.", "https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/r9orl0/dolly_parton_outclasses_barbara_walters_rude/hnejrqd/", "Do they serve chai lattes at the safe spaces?", "Don't get me wrong - I don't much care for her music, but Gaga has an undeniable talent for reinventing herself. It's just far easier to be *that* artist when you've got a boatload of money both to effect it and to fall back on if it fails. For someone like Dolly, it's pure grit and talent that both got her where she is and kept her there.", "Literally the exact same here. All of that is me as well.", "“I would never stoop so low as to be fashionable that’s easiest thing in the world to do”", "done", "You have defended Barbara Walters this entire thread. It’s really odd.", "Dolly has been a class act all her life. The fact that she was widely known for her large chest didn't detract from what she has done for humanity at large for literally anyone who paid attention. And Barbara Walter's has done some good interviews in the past... but her sins against Dolly, and Corey Feldman makes it very obvious she comes into it with a specific agenda...", "Honestly, we are living in a great era for country music. \n\nColter Wall, Benjamin Tod, Tyler Childers, Sturgill Simpson, Orville Peck, Charley Crockett, there are so many great country musicians around right now.", "Pobody's nerfect", "Great to see someone reference Gregory Alan Isakov. He's a terribly underappreciated songwriter and an excellent performer. I discovered him randomly on YouTube a few years ago and have been hooked since.", "She's a piece of shit. \n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rujeOqadOVQ", "That's correct, she refused a request from Elvis to cover it because his lawyers had a \"standard\" contract to take 50%. Dolly wasn't intimidated and stuck to her guns.\n\nEdit: Do we really need to downvote the guy below me for having an opinion based on my inaccurate statement?", "What year is it where you are?", "No no, we aren’t going to talk shit about Elton", "Reminder: Barbara Walters shamed Cory Feldman on TV for trying to expose hollywood paedophilia and talking about his abuse. She is the worst.", "Dolly was a boss then and she’s a boss now", "I love Elton John and I love candle in the wind. But you are right: putrid is the word to describe that song. Just awful.", "So Dolly said no because of her lawyers? Sounds like a bad business model.", "Barbara Walters was kind of a cunt to her in that interview. Wow.", "I wasn’t aware of the family money (at least proof that she’s good at being anonymous?). Everything is easier when you’ve got mom and dad’s bucks, even if you have Gaga or Dolly’s talent. Source: Went to public high school with VERY disparate income levels, was not in the Lady Gaga bracket, it seems.", "Jeez, I’m already knew that Dolly’s waters run deep, both musically and spiritually. Bug I never realized what a twat Babs was! Well handled Dolly!", "I mean, yeah", "Damn, look at the class on that woman. One oozes of class, the other makes a living bringing others down.", "A very difficult category to find oneself in. Mister Rogers is in there.", "Dolly Parton sends my kid a book once a month. What a life she has lived", "Fun fact: \n\nPresident trump’s supporters across all demographics and socioeconomic levels share almost only one thing in common: low emotional IQ. (There are studies that back this up that I am too lazy to Google.)\n\nThey simply cannot read people or tell when they are being taken advantage of. It makes them rubes and easy marks for grifters like trump. \n\nIf you ever wonder why the engineering and architecture worlds or other “well paying respectable” Lines of work are full of Trump supporters, it’s this reason right there. These people are well-versed in systems, and processes… But they don’t get people. \n\nThey don’t understand them. It’s what happens when you have very little emotional IQ. \n\n\nAnd yes: Dolly Parton has high emotional IQ in spades.", "His performance wasn't the problem. Have you heard the song?", "I was working in a record store when Diana died. I wanted to claw my ears off at the first hearing of that song. Hearing it three times a day for *months* was torture.", "/u/‎FnkyTown makes a really good point about how that's not what she was saying at all", "I've never really listened to her music, except the songs that are super popular, but I've always respected her, and this interview has given me even more respect for her. Her intelligence and eloquence is amazing.", "I've always found this to be a strange critique of any genre of music. Are artists only supposed to create art that reflects the way that they live and their socioeconomic status?\n\nAlso, it's entirely misplaced, as far as contemporary country goes. 75% of the trash on country radio reflects very well-off ways of life.", ">She was asking Dolly Parton about her clothes, her body, her style, her marriage, and her community. There was no journalistic reason to continually take shots at Dolly like that.\n\nEach and every question posed to probe on these topics was framed incredibly condescendingly too.\n\nDolly was made to **defend** her clothes, body, style, etc.", "Never forget that Barbara walters has defended publicly and on air the Hollywood predators that have made the lives of countless young children miserable amid rape, blackmail and extortion. She is a terrible person.", "She hit the nail in the head when she says that it gets people's attention. Then they can see her true self. I don't even listen to her music, but I love her as a person.", "I encourage anyone that has not seen it it to watch Norm Macdonald on The View. He completely destroys those clowns and they don't even know it's happening.", "I’m from the south and voted dem. Don’t say we’re all the same", "I hate celebrity culture. Like, really hate it. People worshiping celebrities, just other humans they've never met or really know anything about, is not only annoying as shit to me, but also hurtful to society.\n\nWith that being said, Dolly Parton and Keanu Reeves make it hard.", "Man, if I had a dollar for every YouTube channel with a V Mask pushing a pedo video, I could get a very nice burger for free.\n\nInterestingly this one is not a Q-adjacent fashy idiot but somebody who obsesses about Michael Jackson and the only reason they have the video on the channel is because surviving Corey says he was not diddled by MJ.\n\nBarbara Walters is true to form, tho. Got side-tracked by this one-note channel which popped up first in your Google search.", "No doubt about it, but Dolly is amazing.", "Great reminder that Dolly Parton is a classy, bad ass, wonderful human being. And she was, has been, and ALWAYS has been an absolute smoke show.", "Well.. I softened, she did too. Also, back when Cronkite ruled the air, female on-air journalists were few are far between. She had to stand out. Her specials were always highly rated and she featured people we wanted to learn about. Before we were bombarded by everything 24/7...those televised interviews were huge.", "I wouldn't say it was bad in that it sounded terrible but in that it has nothing really going for it. His voice is decent but he doesn't really do anything with it. I'm not really good at explaining this sort of thing but it sounds kinda....dull and muted, I guess?\n\n\nCompare it to [Miley Cyrus's version](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOwblaKmyVw) and you can see the difference. She doesn't do anything too risky with it either but it sounds so much nicer. She really brings it to life.\n\n\nMy favourite cover though is [The White Stripes' version](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXlULkwhgrc). If Dolly Parton's version has the possibility of keeping her man from Jolene, Jack White sings as if it's already too late. He fucking bodies it and his version is filled with so much emotion.", "Dolly and Keanu internet's most loved people... honorable mention to Elon.", "Jack White introduced me to Jolene.", "There are so many insults on here about her background, looks and accent. what I take from this clip is Barbra Walter trying to dance around with an amazing and beautiful woman both inside and out just to get better ratings and Dolly showed a cascade of more class and talent. \nWhat she has done for children and people in general is remarkable for someone famous and wealthy. \nIf you ever go to Dollywood you will understand the difference. It’s clean, safe and the lack of alcohol provides a safe and healthy environment for children.\nMy hat will always be off to this amazingly tasteful lady.", "It’s possible to “ask the real questions” and dig deeply into who a person is without coming off as a such disrespectful bitch. She was so condescending to Parton as to be outright insulting about her background, appearance, and even her body. It made Walters, herself, seem like an ignorant, prejudiced fool— especially in contrast to Parton’s responses and in the context of the discussion. \n\nThere are plenty of ways to get what she needed without mistreating her subjects so terribly. That’s not talented interviewing, that’s hackery.", "Although the questions are patronizing, people give journalists crap if they just ask soft ball questions. What does the public know about dolly at this time, so Barbra hit on all those points the public was probably interested in hearing a response to. Dolly held her own throughout the interview and it was prob topics she has heard many times before.", "The movie is great, too!", "Well, when Whitney Houston sang it for the movie The Bodyguard, it was the only song you could hear anywhere for like 6 months. 14 weeks at #1! I could totally believe that if Dolly Parton never made a dime except from writing that song, she wouldn't ever have to work again. \n\nPlus Dolly had a hit with it twice solo, a third time as a duet with Vince Gill, Linda Ronstadt hit #1, and it's been recorded by plenty of others.", "“I’m not offended by all the dumb blonde jokes because I know I’m not dumb…and I know I’m not blonde.”\n\n“Everybody always wants to know, ‘How long does it take to do your hair?’ How should I know? I’m never there.”\n\n[https://countrymusicnation.com/dolly-partons-top-10-quotes-that-will-tickle-your-funny-bone](https://countrymusicnation.com/dolly-partons-top-10-quotes-that-will-tickle-your-funny-bone)", "> I wasn’t aware of the family money\n\nGoogled for confirmation: *Gaga has said her family wasn't wealthy, but they certainly did well for themselves. Her father owned an Internet company and her mother was, at one point, a Verizon V.P., New York Magazine has reported, enabling the family to send her and her sister to elite private schools in New York City.*\n\nThe other big one is Taylor Swift. Again, I'm impressed with her talent (that Cardigan album is terrific) but her parents' money absolutely greased the wheel to get her into the industry:\n\n*Her father, Scott Kingsley Swift, is a former stockbroker for Merrill Lynch; her mother, Andrea Gardner Swift (née Finlay), is a former homemaker who previously worked as a mutual fund marketing executive... To help Swift break into country music, her father transferred to Merrill Lynch's Nashville office when she was 14 years old, and the family relocated to a lakefront house in Hendersonville, Tennessee. Swift initially attended Hendersonville High School before transferring to the Aaron Academy after two years, which could better accommodate her touring schedule through homeschooling.*", "Barbara Walters was a hag.", "I think it being unnecessary depends on perspective. An interviewer's job isn't just asking questions, but asking questions you think your audience would want asked to get the answers they're interested in hearing so they tune in. Walters established herself as an interviewer worth watching because of the reasons I mentioned above. It wasn't just about disarming the guest, but also the audience.\n\nI'm not saying the questions aren't rude and a little trashy, but you can't deny that these are the sorts of questions people likely had about Dolly at the time that they were interested in Dolly answering. And Walter was able to ask them in a way that was cordial and joking and almost came across as two friends just having a conversation which brought out the best responses from Dolly than had she gone in with a more confrontational or matter-of-fact approach. And it got the audience, advanced Walters' career, and helped show a side to Dolly most people hadn't seen.", "I love how honest and real she is. The interview questions were tacky at best and very offensive at worst. Dolly answered them with class and not even a hint of annoyance. I'm so impressed. I wish I could be half as reserved and cool under those conditions.", "Dolly said no because the she felt like she deserved a higher cut for her song.", "Not really. The jist is Elvis manager was notorious for grifting from Elvis primarily but also other artists.\n\nThe deal would certainly have been a bad or predatory deal from Elvis manager that she'd be lucky to even get her promised share of if she signed.\n\nShe made the correct choice by turning down Elvis on this one.", "Love that irish vacation version.", "Did you actually watch that interview or nah?", "It was his manager, and it was for half the publishing rights, which resulted in 10 mil so it sounds like a pretty good decision in retrospect. https://www.insider.com/dolly-parton-why-elvis-never-recorded-i-will-always-love-you-royalties-2021-10#:~:text=Dolly%20Parton's%20%22I%20Will%20Always,%2C%22%20Parton%20told%20W%20Magazine.", "The Dolly Parton's America was an amazing podcast series and covers this amazingly well\n\nhttps://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/dolly-partons-america", "Nah it’s been that way forever. Rome was big on “celebrity culture” and before them the Athenians were into it. Socrates and Leonidas come to mind right away, they were about as famous as you could be without mass media. \n\nI’m sure if you dig into it enough you can find even older examples too.", "Dolly is always ahead of her time. No one bats an eye about a man gone from home to work. Truckers, oil well worker, Armed Forces just to name a few. Barbara made it sound as though Carl Dean would be right to leave Dolly because she wasn't a stay-at-home wife. Dolly just graciously made it known that the foundation was strong and their marriage was just right for them.", "According to the article below she also said \n\n>\"So I just wanted to say to all you cowards out there, don't be such a chicken squat,\" she said. \"Get out there and get your shot.\"", "This was the rudest interview ever. Let’s not talk about Dollys accomplishments, let’s talk about her boobs and hair. Rude as hell. Media is shameful.", "Reminds me of the funny conversations I found myself in when I switched from a very poor high school to an upper middle class one on the other side of the country. Had a friend \"explain\" to me the difference between middle class, well off, rich, and wealthy. I just remember thinking by the end of that conversation that I'd feel invincible being in just one of those last 3 categories.", "If you've never listened to it, her song \"Coat of many colors\" is an absolutely incredible song. Easily one of my favorite songs of all time. It's a story of her childhood growing up poor, and how her mother helped to provide for her.", "Dolly was one of 12 kids and the house she grew up in was a one bedroom cabin with a kitchen smaller than most RVs. I still wonder about the logistics of sleeping and making more kids in such a space.", "That’s so rude to insult her so condescendingly to her face. She handled that with class", "I also like it.", "While I agree on dolly, levar burton and mister rogers; there’s a lot of misinformation going around about bob ross. He actually cheated on his wife, not a lot of people know that. I would think twice about including him in your “wholesome people” list from now on.", "[have you seen this video? Dolly is the female version of this joke] (https://youtu.be/eA0dyDWyTRQ)\n\nEdit: In that a lot of people have covered her music, not that she's terrible. She's wonderful", "...him? (probably)", "Someone mentions above how she is more upset that Corey refused to name anyone that was a pedophile and would just say Hollywood.", "Barbara Walters is such a typical rich person in this clip", "Licking pussy wasn't exactly fashionable for women to do in public 50 years ago", "No one has ever tried to cancel Dolly. Ever.", "Thank you! I swear sometimes when I have minority opinions on this site I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. I have no opinion of Walters as a person; couldn't hardly tell you a thing about her. But these are good questions! It actually feels a bit like therapy, to me. *Everyone knows* that these things are being said and Walters admits indirectly to having some of these thoughts, so let's address them and how they affect you.\n\nI mean what is the alternative? Pretend that these things don't exist and make small talk about her hometown and her latest album and her charity work? Just accept as genuine all of the persona that showbusiness projects about a person? Reminds me of late night shows. No one could accuse them of asking their celebrity guests \"rude\" questions like these, but those interviews really suck and are just thinly veiled advertisements.", "When I was growing up as a kid I always though of Dolly Parton as some novelty singer and didn't really give her much thought, but as I grew up I've gained more and more respect for her as just an intelligent and well spoken person with every interaction I've seen.", "She is total class.", "All republicans should be dissolved in benzEEEEEN", "I never understood why people liked Barbara walters. Shes always come off ass a pompous jackass to me.", "Just visited Dollywood this weekend. Such a fun and great park.\n\nI'm also a huge Dolly fan in general. She does the library service for children, helped rebuild Gatlinburg after the fires, and has always been the same grounded woman throughout her long and talented career. \n\n\"It's hard to be a diamond in a rhinestone world\".", "Thank you for linking that, I had no idea he had covered it. Jolene is probably my favorite song of all time and he did a great job.", "Just visited Dollywood this weekend. Such a fun and great park.\n\nI'm also a huge Dolly fan in general. She does the library service for children, helped rebuild Gatlinburg after the fires, and has always been the same grounded woman throughout her long and talented career. \n\n\"It's hard to be a diamond in a rhinestone world\".", "Dolly Parton’s grace aside, I’m kind of blown away at how shitty of an interview that was. Like every question Walters asked was not only super rude, but kind of just bad questions.\n\nEdit: lol, Walters has also been divorced 4 times. Glass houses Barbara, glass houses.", "Don't forget, \"were your tits this huge when you were a preteen?\"", "Now now, as someone from Dolly's home region it has been long known by locals that Carl T. Dean ran a successful construction and asphalt laying company throughout Dolly's career. He's no slouch and could've supported the both of them just fine on his salary, thank you very much. He may like to keep to himself but he was never some stay at home, gold diggin', Mr. Mom type of husband you're portraying him as. He's a hard working, blue collar, proud Southern man who happens to have an extremely successful wife in showbiz.\n\nDon't diss my boy. And take your slacker dreams elsewhere, yankee.", "Meanwhile, Barbara Walters has had four failed marriages (two to the same person).", "Nasty media just like now. Media is such cancer in the US", "I don't know why Barbara Walters has enjoyed a reputation as a respectable journalist for so long. She has sucked for as long as I can remember. Just a terrible, tabloidy interviewer who is boring as fuck.", "She's is an all around, horrible piece of shit human being.", "Bab’s was kind of a cunt huh?", "https://youtu.be/t1xP5J1691Y", "What about her \n\n>pubic-facing image\n?", "Good grief. As if I needed any more reason to think of her as an incredible human being.", "She was also friends with Roger Ailes.", "Not to mention what’s she does for children’s literacy. Her Imagination Library will send enrolled children a free book every month from birth until their 5th birthday. Both of my children have participated, and the selected books have been wonderful.", "One of Dolly Parton’s charities sends every child in the state of Tennessee an age appropriate book every month from the time they are born until the age of 5. She has been doing this for years. My kiddo has a big library of books but every time a bedtime story is chosen and it has dolly’s name on the back I think about this.", "And for his last birthday she was going to pose for the cover of Playboy in a bunny outfit like she did back in the 70s. But Playboy don't print a magazine anymore so she just [recreated it in person.](https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1418096722446721024)", "She’s just part of the standard tribe of horrible journalists that have fostered the divide of the nation for decades.", "Lmao thanks for the feedback", "https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/r9orl0/dolly_parton_outclasses_barbara_walters_rude/hndyvj6/", "I mean yea, if you take everyone's public persona at face-value and don't ask any probing questions, that might get you far in life by being very socially safe. But you don't actually learn anything real about anyone that way. You have to ask some uncomfortable questions to really get at who someone is.", "Babs has always been terrible. Let's not forget she dated Roy Cohn, who was one of the most evil people in American history and also had an affair with a senator. The nerve on this woman to call Dolly a hillbilly.", "And Barbara has been married 4 times. I think she was projecting her own unhappiness in her interview.", "Wow, BW was a bitch. Still is.", "And Barbara Walters in turn has been divorced 4 times.", "That was actually great. I kept waiting for him to do some kinky but nah. He was respectful", "Don't forget that she has also mailed over 170m free books to kids and has had a measurable effect on literacy in this country as a result.", "Did you see the actual full discussion or just the soundbite? It sounds like there was more to it according to this [comment above](https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/r9orl0/dolly_parton_outclasses_barbara_walters_rude/hndyvj6/)", "To outclass Barbara Walters....", "Barbara Walters is awful", "Fuck yeah, Billy Strings is amazing", "The French version was the best", "Well. Dolly Parton is a god damned treasure and gift to man kind. Barbara Walters is just a bitch. And ugly to bat.", "“9 to 5” is a great song too as is he duet with Kenny Rodgers “Islands in the stream.”", "When you're married to Dolly Parton, you do everything in your power to not fuck it up.", "We have some pretty good evidence that a lot of hollywood has participated in this ring through files from Epstein. This isn't some grand conspiracy or revenge from some disgruntled former star.\n\nGiven the powerful people connected to these, I wouldn't expect Feldman to drop names because he very likely would find himself on the wrong side of a suicide.", "Shitbirds of a feather…", "Are you a hillbilly isn’t a probing question that will get you an interesting answer. It’s shock questions meant to piss someone off", "Barbara Walters in this video reminds me of the \"Food Review\" Kid on Youtube.", "Which one ? There's like 4 company's involved", "Wow I had no idea she was this emotionally intelligent, based on this interview only I have the feeling she's a proper role model", "> Garth Brooks CDs were right behind Body Count.\n\nHeh, the music video for \"The Red Strokes\" just started played in my mind but with blood instead of red paint.... and now we're on to Reigning Blood by Slayer... don't know why I typed all of this, but, well there ya go.", "IIRC, Baba* had an affair with a married senator about this time.", "Dolly is alot smarter than she looks. I have never thought so little of Barbara before. But wow she is clearly jealous of Dolly", "David Groehl?", "Same sentiment, the only thing I'll add is that I liked her movies. Dolly Parton is an absolute gem!", "Well yea, which is why she didn't ask that question. She asked would I have considered you a hillbilly? And that gets at what Dolly believes people, especially supposedly upper-class North Easterners, think of her and how she responds to that. It was interesting to me that Walters admitted that there was a cultural difference and condescension from people like her, and she got an earnest rebuttal from Dolly talking about what she admires about her hometown natives.", "Yo for real. Barbara Walters might be a shit person, but this was actually a good interview. The questions she asked were views people at the time would have on Dolly. She gave Dolly the opportunity to silence the haters. Walters let Dolly give every answer to completion. She didn’t challenge her on anything just let her respond to the criticism. It’s because of Waters’s questions that Dolly can look as good as she does, not to take away from Dolly being a class act of course.", "TIL Barbara Walters is a cunt", "It was an earnest answer because dolly has class. It was a rude question.", "He *has a DUI, so I'm sure some people don't like him for that.", "Do you think Trixie has seen this?", "Lucky man", "Elon Musk comes to mind.", "That woman is a Saint", "Yeah, that.", "I've got nothing but love and respect for her, what a wonderful person.", "Lots of good comments above but I didn’t see this yet: did you know that Dolly Parton helped fund Moderna's COVID-19 vaccine:\n\nhttps://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/6373339002\n\nFrom the article: “‘Without a doubt in my mind, her funding made the research toward the vaccine go 10 times faster than it would be without it,’ Abumrad told the Washington Post.”", "Barbara waters made a career out of being a professional bitch", "Good for Carl, but no reason to insult this man’s dream", "The commenter you were replying to wasn’t praising Walters. It was specifically addressing whether she’s a good interviewer, and this particular interaction.", "Barb Walters worst cunt ever\n\nEdit: I looked it up she still is aliiiiiive", "*I put my hands on your body, it feels like hay*\n\n*it's a fucking SCARECROW AGAIN*", "“The View”… our hosts have been scummin since the 70s.", "I can't recall the final book we got, bit it has a letter in the back to the kid about how he has aged out but that she is proud of them for reading and being who they are.\n\nI couldn't get even halfway through it without crying while reading it to my kid.", "Dolly. Is. A.Queen.", "WWDD??? What would Dolly do?", "The irony—with each question she tried to expose Dolly as trashy, but managed only to reveal her own trashiness.", "[According to Forbes](https://www.forbes.com/sites/melissarowley/2020/11/18/what-we-can-learn-from-dolly-partons-business-savvy---her-1-million-donation-to-the-moderna-vaccine-to-fight-covid-19/) her royalties from Whitney's cover of that song alone earned her over $10 million, just during the 90s when it was getting radio play. So you would win that bet.", "She wasn’t wrong. Corey Feldman waited until after people were exposed to name names. He was very vague about things he claimed to know. If he knew those things, and who these evil people were, he was protecting the pedophiles while harming the innocent. That was her point. And this is always taken out of context. Deliberately. It’s dishonest and it’s been gone over, and over, to the point that I think people who bring this up aren’t sincere.", "\"the lil Abner people\". \nI grew up in a liberal hippy Canadian West coast home and LOVED those comics, along with anything by R crumb. It takes all kinds I guess.", "That's pretty funny. That was a time when women went for the natural look, which I think is why the 80s were so the opposite. Dolly was definitely ahead of her time. I am working on it and hope to be as secure with myself as she was when she was 6 years younger (in this interview) than me. She's an amazing person and I really admire her. Barbara Walters, however, made Lucille Ball tear up and it breaks my heart when I see that interview. I wish Lucy had been interviewed by Dolly instead.", "What struck me was when she's talking about content and self confident.\n\nThat was really powerful and admirable.", "Can you point out the evidence? I think most people are aware there are flight records, and there's accusations of sexual assault and rape towards some of the people that were around Epstein. But beyond that it seems like a lot of speculation to me", "I love watching her singing in a pub in Ireland, a coat of many colors.", "Dolly is a national treasure.", "Barbara Walters left an extremely bad taste in my mouth here. I wonder if she ever apologized for this interview or was it pretty much par for the course for her.", "barbara walters is actual trash", "^ this is low emotional intelligence", "The best thing about living in Tennessee is every year Dolly does more for the people than the government does", "Were they that rude? She asked if its fair to say she came from a town of hill billies. Dolly sings about growing up poor in West Virginia, a place that is often identified as hill billy country. This is giving Dolly a chance to address these ideas and tell more about her story. Asking her about her body was pretty common. Part of what made her so recognizable is her very intentional image. Again, its giving Dolly a chance to talk about how much of herself was a crafted image versus her natural self. Its easy to read these questions differently in hindsight, but this was when Dolly was getting national attention, and a lot of people were wondering these things because they didn't know much about her at all.", "God help this world when this last light of decency is snuffed out...\n\nWe've already lost the PBS trinity... Dolly is all we have left!.. maybe Levar...", "Who the fuck is David Groehl?", "Barbara Walters = piece of shit", "Not to mention, this is 3 years into her 40+ year career as a broadcaster.", "I'm great", "Opps, did I let my CDO show again?", "There is no doubt that this same idiot later gave birth to The View. It sounds, smells, and acts just liker her to this day....", "Also, people are looking back in hindsight. Not everyone knew who Dolly was as a person at this point. Yeah, knowing what we know now, they seem obvious. At the time, Barbara was really asking if Dolly was the real deal that she says she is, or is she like a ton of other performers who create a character for themselves.", "I found him the same way. And now he's this years most listened musician on my Spotify!", "I grew up in the country music capital of Australia and Dolly was the role model that men and women looked up to. We were looked down on as hicks and bumpkins by the tourists who came for a holiday every year but we held our heads high because of people like her. \n \nI wish there was someone that today's country kids could look up to like that but I don't think there is.", "She also currently runs a program to give free books to needy kids.", "It's like she decided to be a permanent 60yr old bitch when she became a journalist. She looks just as old as she does today and still sounded like a smug grandmother who never loved her daughter.", "Prime example of Charisma, Uniqueness, Nerve and Talent!", "I used to think country music was total wank, until I started paying attention to some of the lyrics. Classic style country music can be dark and gangster af.", "Sandollar Productions", "I mean, if you are calling that a “slacker dream” arent you insulting generations of women who did just that?", "Like a *smart* businesswoman like her gives a fuck about fanatics.", "She wants to be portrayed as the interview that isn't afraid to ask the hard hitting questions people want answers to, but in this she come off as a pretentious cunt that is completely out of touch with the person he's interviewing.", "Barbara has always been a cunt", "I think it was Gaga who was on an episode of What Would You Do?\n\nI remember spotting her in one of the episodes", "On second thought I'm not. Please explain to me why the government and adults who believe in fairy tales need to get involved in peoples lives? It's fucking stupid.", "Why don't you try and show a little of that light yourself too instead.", "Only issue I have with her is that the company that bought out the Vancouver Aquarium has hindered the fantastic environmental support and research they previously did.", "I heard her version of I Will Always Love You for the first time about two years ago. It is amazing.", "Love Dolly, she's so funny and good-natured.", "Dolly is a queen. Literally impossible to disrespect her.", "And philanthropic AF!", "Evil Twin, Lead singer of the Fig Fooders", "Do you hear that subtle mandolin? \nThat’s textbook panderin’", "She wrote both those songs on the same god damn day", "This movie programmed my view of women in the workplace at a very young age, good job Dolly.", "We got the children's book to read for Thanksgiving and my kids absolutely love it, and the song. But I started bawling while reading it so it took a couple tries. Definitely my favorite song of hers.", ":( He’s still an amazing dude, but this sucks to find out. Parasocial relationships are weird.", "That's what Fred would have wanted", "Would you say the same about the Catholic Church?\n\n\nComing forward as a guy still screws you. Look at Terry Crews. He is no bit actor and he won't name names because he fears retaliation.\n\n\nhttps://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/oct/11/actor-terry-crews-sexually-assaulted-by-hollywood-executive", "Would you say the same about the Catholic Church?", "I never would have guessed she had such an intelligence and... vision of the future and what she was doing by representing \"her people\".\n\nIt's obvious to see what drove her success now. Kindness, purity and compassion. But more importantly, a keen understanding of humanity and a love for her community.", "It's even more impressive than that because to be as vibrant as that with the confidence she held requires wisdom beyond her time and real sacrifice.", "I'd wager most of those women you're referring to had kids, and raising children is the hardest job of all, in my opinion.\n\nPut that in your back pocket and slap it.", "We never used to do things like get Peter Fonda's take on geopolitics or medical science. We do now. I bet Chingy has a take on ISIS-k.", "Oh, no doubt, I love Grohl too. It was a stupid mistake in which luckily nobody was hurt and he has shown remorse and regret following it. You can still continue loving him! I'm sorry, I wasn't trying to sour you on him!", "The more you learn about her, the more you realise how fabulous she is! An actual icon, who we could all learn from.", "I feel sad for people like you. All you need is to have an open mind. What is there not to like? It’s nothing like the hardcore rap music either", "Exactly. There is a reason they were all teachers. We are supposed to learn from them and do it too.", "> Dolly Parton has built her empire on and with the debris of old, racist amusements and wrapped it in working-class signifiers and feminist politics.\n\nSo recycling junk and toxic waste into something useful and progressive in a way that is more likely to make inroads with a population that generally isn't receptive to that stuff...\n\nThe quoted sentence just reeks of pomposity and pretentiousness.", "I would go one step further and say that Walters is setting up Parton to look good because she probably knows exactly what she'll say to these answers.", "Such a beautiful song.", "No wonder why Saturday night live made fun of baba wawa!", "Goodness, I would have literally married this woman. What a beautiful, sweet, unflinching soul. Goodness. To be blessed with her.... Jeez ol Pete.", "Walters has been insufferable for decades.", "> Can you point out the evidence?\n\nA lot of it is coming out at the Maxwell trial. Epstein's pilot confirmed a list of Hollywood celebs that he took to the island. It's also been confirmed that he and Maxwell were both incredibly close with Weinstein - until Weinstein made an advance on one of Epstein's girls. (Relentess Pursuit, written by the Bradley Edwards - a lawyer who represented Epstein victims).\n\nAnd as the trial continues, we'll get to see more of the states evidence.", "You may have and not known it, she has written many for others.", "I don't know about everyone else, but it took me a while to truly get how great her songs are. I found that the more I read about her life and what was going on at the time of the recordings, that I felt like I could feel her intentions- like, why she wrote what she wrote. It added so much to an already powerful singer-songwriter. She's a powerhouse.", "Bit of AIDS denialism circa 2000.", "ALL HAIL DOLLY PARTON.\n\nbut for real, she triple axled around questions made to portray her as some hillbilly hack. Come on, Babs, try harder.\n\nGreat job, Dolly.", "I mean Mr Rogers actually caused waves with the stance he took in his church settings, he was too accepting and that pissed some people off. Bob Ross had the whole military thing and the teacher he is accused of ripping off some how. Peta hated Steve Irwin. The only negative things people say about Dolly are on her looks. So I'd say she is actually on the top of that list (arguably).\n\nAll of that being said looking at the people who hold I'll will against any of the big four really are not people who's opinion we would take into consideration at all anyways. \n\nIf you will all excuse me now as I have to go work on my views of other people. I feel like all four aforementioned person's of great quality would want me to have a more positive outlook and quite frankly I've grown as an adult a great deal because of them.", "I think you think he thinks being a slacker is a bad thing. But I think that what you think he thinks is wrong. \n\nNow who's insulting who? Stop projecting your perspective on others. Some people want to be slackers, and that's alright. Carl T Dean ain't one of them, is all I'm saying.", "I don't recall seeing any serious attempts to \"cancel\" her but some did get pissed about her supporting LilNasX's rendition of Jolene (because gay bad) and there might have been some butt-hurt over her contributing funding ($1mil IIRC) to the what became the Moderna vaccine for COVID.", "She has a foundation that mails free books to children too!\n\nhttps://imaginationlibrary.com/", ".", "A breath of fresh air (even though this video is almost half a century old). I'm in awe of her. A class act all the way", "In another interview she was asked \"how long did it take to get your hair all done up like that?\"\n\nTo which Dolly replied \" I have no idea. I wasn't in the room at the time\"", "Great series!", "You might not like her music, but there’s probably a song or two you like that you didn’t know was written by her.", "This video improved my thoughts about her - and I was already a big fan - from writing “I will always love you” to providing books to kids in need to refusing statues the racists wanted to erect in her honor.\n\nNot to mention the impact she had on traditional country and bluegrass music. (Bluegrass is my shit, which is weird for a 30 year old liberal, lol - it’s all I listen to other than Modest Mouse, and the occasional 90s rap)", "One more way that Dolly is a national treasure: her Imagination Library charity. Got kids? You can receive FREE BOOKS from their birth until they start school. She has put over 100 million books into kids' hands. \n\nhttps://imaginationlibrary.com/", "Dolly Parton gave us the Coronovirus vaccine.", "Yeah, that's some fucked up shit I didn't know about until a few years ago. Very weird thing too, AIDS denial is just fucking strange", "They're really great books, my son loves them! Everytime her name is brought up my brain is like \"oh, that nice lady that sends kiddo books!\" It feels personal even though I know its not at all 😅 she's a sweet heart though and she's done a ton of good", "Dolly has a bit of a superiority complex that comes nowhere close to covering her actual superiority.", "Why wouldn't a father be able to raise kids?", "I love Dolly so much.", "Nobody has any right to feel sorry for Dolly. She was born a winner and has stayed one for three quarters of a goddamn century.", "Does anyone not love Duane the rock Johnson? Maybe I don't want to know. I actually know nothing about him, but he seems to exude positivity.", "Okay...lots if shitting on people for doing their job, that is asking tough questions. This sort of thing mattered to society then, and it was relevant. Also likely produced by dudes in the background but that's a whole other issue. \n\nValuing the first amendment means we don't shit on people for doing their job.", "His music is super offensive", "Two Doors Down is a certified toe tapper.", "I know in the music industry, Mac Miller was incredibly loved by all. He would always connect with everyone, checks on your family, will make music with you for free, will guide you in music, etc.\n\nNever heard a bad thing about him besides from one rapper being jealous of his success.", "Nobody cares what PETA thinks, they are fucking nuts", ">so I can stay at home and just cook stuf and perfect it for when she is home. Then spoil the nephews and nieces and live a fun live. \n\nSince you seem unable to derive context clues let me break this down. Old boy stating he just wants to stay at home and cook stuff would imply he doesn't want kids. His dream of spoiling nieces and nephew instead of his own children reinforces that implication.\n\nQuit making bad faith arguments in an attempt to pin me as something I'm not. Didn't you ***just*** watch a video about that, Barbara Walters?", "No because of traditional gender roles in society where its seen as acceptable or even preferable for women to take those roles but not men", "Hardest job of all. I always get a good laugh out of that one.", "Dolly Parton is a national treasure and living legend. After all she's done for all types of people, it takes a real pos to disrespect her.", "Ever have one of those days in which it’s like everything you touch turns to gold?", "Your article is from 2017. Terry not only named him in 2018 (Adam Venit), he sued the guy and won.\n\nhttps://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/09/07/actor-terry-crews-settles-his-lawsuit-against-the-powerful-hollywood-agent-who-allegedly-groped-him/", "If you ever have a kid sign up for her book club. She sends out a book every month to your kid for the first few years of their life. My 2 year old says \"thank you, Dolly!\" After every book we read to him now.", "She also secretly backed the Buffy the Vampire slayer TV show back in the day.", "https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/r9orl0/dolly_parton_outclasses_barbara_walters_rude/hndyvj6/", "Watch her interview on YouTube with Brian Johnson from ac/dc... for real two of the most genuinely loveable people around", "I saw that and thought they both did a great job. It was not like Barbara was trying to kill the interview. She gave her questions about what I imagine was on everybody’s mind. You must really hate Barbara if you saw this and thought she did a bad job.", "I find myself humming 9 to 5 at least once a week.", "Bad take. Doesn't matter if one person in a couple stays home, regardless of gender.", "Yeah seriously! She’s amazing, especially when you think about the cultural context of that era. The world was really conservative back then, Regan and Thatcher were just around the corner, the world was still in The process of unwinding centuries of colonialism and casual brutality to the fellow man. Literally the only people who knew of a world without widespread colonialism were the babies who were born at that time. the Cold War was still raging, and nuclear annihilation was on everyone’s mind. School districts in the US were still in the process desegregating. Golf courses that Tiger Woods would win big on didn’t allow black people when this interview was taken. Things were really different back then.  There was still a lot of places in rural areas where, due to religious reasons, women didn’t wear pants, they had to wear ankle length dresses. So seeing someone like Dolly Parton had the effect of like sticking a cattle prod up their ass. I think you could say she was just as outrageous to the rural south as punk rockers were to New York, at least as far as some people were concerned. \n\nYou can see in the interview she addresses the fact that there were a lot of conservative people who loved to hate her because she was *different.*\n\nIt’s hard to see now because the world has change so much but I would argue Dolly Parton in her own special unique and charming way was, at that time as much an iconoclast to her cultural group as the Beatles were to mainstream society and made a significant contribution in shifting cultural norms towards greater openness and acceptance.", "This just makes Barbara seem so petty and gross on the inside", "You're definitely being insulting. The life they thought this man had was to you \"slacker, slouch, gold-digger\". Every one of those has a negative connotation and you know it. Own your shit.\n\nManaging a household is plenty of work even without children fyi, and considered a valuable contribution to most reasonable people.", "Barbara Walters is a terrible journalist, if it’s even fair to call her one.", "Fella I like just about every genre of music aside from Dubstep and Country as a general rule of thumb. It just doesn’t do it for me. Feel sad for me all you like, your feelings a waste because I’m quite happy enjoying the endless variety of music outside of those two genres I just mentioned.", "Dolly is a treasure, and I’ll fight anyone who says different.", "Lucky man indeed. Also, after seeing her in her prime and how sharp she is and how well she carries herself, one must ask - the hell Jolene got that could take her man?", "It's the AIDS denialism that soured me on him", "Well she seems like a total B in this interview, so that doesn't surprise me.", "Hot take, fellow internet user. No need to get offended. I’m clarifying for other readers that there are other forms of intelligence and using your comment as a platform to do so.\n\nCommenting on the feat of emotional and social finesse is not pedantic. Saying someone “is just plain intelligent” reduces the nuance of their strengths. Dolly Parton’s intelligence goes beyond plain.\n\nSorry you missed that", "Allegedly BW sucked Gaddafi’s cock for an interview.", "Awesome podcast, Dolly Parton’s America", "Didn't she also have affairs with political figures she was supposed to be reporting on?", "Yo thats poignant as fuck", "Dolly Parton was and has been the target of so many jokes. Her entire career she has been the target of hate and stupidity and she just keeps being Dolly. \n\nThe amount of charitable work she has done is incredible. \n\nMore people should look up to her than a lot of these celebrities today.", "Oh. That is one that I am personally unaware of. That's disappointing.", "I believe many of the best people like Dolly are so good at everything they do because they rose up in the face of extreme adversity. The ability to overcome this adversity like poverty is insanely difficult. You can be born with a silver spoon in your mouth, but I rarely think those people will ever be as good as the people who rose to the top from the bottom. There are skills learned along the way to be able to rise up that far that most people lucky enough to have the silver spoon don’t have to go through.", "Maybe, the extent of my knowledge was a 10 sec browse of her Wikipedia page, her 4 divorces are part of the header. It’s just wild that she was already divorced twice at the time of this interview and throwing rocks at Dolly Parton for her marriage.", "Wow you're insufferable.", "Tim McGraw and Nelly released Over and Over in 2004. Not 90s, but almost a decade before Lil Bit (I assume this is the song you’re talking about as I had to google that one).", "I'm sure it's fun to hate on Miley for whatever reason, but she honestly seems pretty rad herself", "Complete and utter white trash. That's exactly what Barbara Walters is.\n\nWalters would would be lucky to have 1% of Dolly's talent, class, dignity, character, charm, wit, kindness, earned respect, generousity, compassion, and love for her fellow man. I'm sure that list is incomplete.", "> Bob Ross had the whole military thing and the teacher he is accused of ripping off some how.\n\n\"How dare he paint like I taught him to.\"", "The country music miniseries Ken Burns did talks about her a lot.", "I don't know. Couldn't she have found a way to ask those questions without sounding so condescendingly dickish? There are probing questions and then there's just....rudeness. this sounded more like the latter to me.", "It takes two to tango, friend.", "How exactly does one access this pubic radio?", "I barely ever listened to her music but I swear I love dolly more than anyone for seeming like she is a real person and everything she has done for kids and families using her fame for good reasons", "Theeerrre goooees myyy villain!", "This is what depresses me about a lot of modern music:\n\n\"The new pop sensation Jane Smith is the hottest new talent up from the street!*\"\n\n*That street being Beverly Park Circle, Beverly Hills.", "Speaking of philanthropy, she has a book charity that sends a free book to a child from age 0 to 5 every month. My son and daughter’s libraries are full of books because of this. That’s just a small example of what Dolly does for people.", "Nah, Barbara more or less forced Ricky Martin out of the closet on national television. She's trash.", "So Walters has always pretty much sucked.", "In that case, good. He still openly stated in my link that he hesitated for those very reasons.", "It’s interesting that you misplaced “live” for “life” twice. ESL?", "Dolly Rules!", "Let’s look somewhere else!", ">I mean, she basically asks Dolly, \"Are your tits real?\" which is obviously really rude to ask a woman, but she frames it in a way where she makes it sound like she's embarrassed to ask, and it's not really coming from her. Her \"assistant\" asked, and she \"wouldn't have the nerve otherwise\", but come on, she wouldn't have asked that question on national television if she really had any reservations about it. I'm sure Walters isn't taking suggestions for questions from her assistant, but she's smart enough to know just coming out and directly asking, \"Is that all you?\" would be something Dolly might take offense at, but this gives her the out of being able say it wasn't really from *her* and easily shift gears to empathize with Dolly's offense to keep the interview going.\n\nYou're impressed by her acting embarrassed, having a scapegoat ready and claiming the controversial or pressing questions came from someone else (don't blame me)?\n\nFrom my perspective that's not exactly talent..", "The Westboro Baptist Church protested at Mister Rogers’ memorial. According to [this article](http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-two-freds-when-phelps-protested-mr-rogerss-memorial) Fred Phelps wrote a manifesto on the subject, blaming Mr. Rogers’ outspoken acceptance of gay people. I remember, because Anti-Flag organized a counter-protest.", "Actually, I think the songwriter makes more money than the performer. All the money in the music business is in the publishing. Or so I’ve heard.", "Everything I learn about Dolly Parton makes her sound like such an absolute angel of a person.", "This made me look up the Walters interview where she tells Coey Feldman he's damaging an entire industry for bringing up the pedos in Hollywood", "Barbara Walters interview with Corey Haim, and Corey Feldman.\n\nCorey Feldman states he was sexually molested as a child actor by head people in the entertainment industry, whom still work in those positions.\n\nBarbara Walters cuts him off and says \"You're damaging an entire industry,“", "You need to understand context. This comment nails it:\n\nhttps://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/r9orl0/dolly_parton_outclasses_barbara_walters_rude/hndyvj6/", "I love Dolly and Barbara Walters. I don’t think that any part of that interview would have been considered rude at the time it occurred. \n\nThe was pre political correctness when people spoke much more openly and directly.", "Maybe Barbra Walters will be cancelled. That would be rad", "Look at here hair . Why did that go away", "She can fuck right off", "Obviously not great by today's first-world standards, but that's how life has been for the majority of people for as long as people have had shelters. One, large center room is much easier and cheaper to build than several smaller rooms.", "I'll revisit this thread after Weinstein gets a day pass to attend the Oscars. I know a victim that got a chance to piss on her abusers grave. When she showed up she was so scared that burst out crying and ran. Everybody thinking they know how victims should behave are full of shit. When Rose McGowen started siding with her abusers I wasn't surprised at all. The one thing I can say for certain is that abuse is 100x more common than you think it is.\n\nEdit: https://www.state.gov/humantrafficking-about-human-trafficking/", "That was pretty much rockbottom...Walters is literally running cover for pedophiles there.", "If you include bluegrass there’s plenty of great stuff today as well. Billy Strings, Greensky Bluegrass", "Barbara Walters is a fucking dumpster", "you people still at this? It was posted and dealt with last week. It was established that probably they arranged before the show that Barbara be helping Dolly answer some questions *once and for all* that fans keep speculating on. Barbara could care less, especially since she already knew the answers to these simple, gossipy, mindless questions lol.", "TIL I’m in love with Dolly Parton", "Barbara Walter and people like her are evil", "A Beaty that's beyond compare \n\nWith flamin' locks of auburn hair\n\nWith ivory skin and eyes of emerald green maybe? \n\nOr a smile that's like a breath of spring\n\nOr a voice that's soft like summer rain?\n\nDid you think of those?", "I am not a country music person. Don’t hate the stuff. But, this lady is smarter than I could hope to be and I’ll tattoo these quotes on my arm. Fuck you Barbra.", "🙏", "Dolly and Betty White have made the world better. We need more like them.\n\nI was just thinking if those two were ever in a film together?", "To be fair she jokes about her breasts too.", "\"Noted. Fuck you\"", "She is a beautiful, smart and super classy lady with a big heart. A far cry from todays trash celebrities.", "All her songs are popular", "Yeah Steve did far more to support animal welfare than PETA ever has or will", "I mean, he's mentally ill, but I get the feeling his destroyed life as a kid might have something to do with it. It also does help to call attention to the abuse of children in Hollywood. Not sure why anyone could really blame someone for being mentally ill when they were driven to it by actual evil people.", "She was way ahead of common feminist ideas at the time. It was radical for her to say 50 years ago, yes, I'm a strong independent woman. Yes, I deserve to be respected for my intelligence and talent and I am just as capable and worthy as a man. But I also like big hair and exaggerated makeup and showing off my body when I feel like it.", "[What indeed](https://youtu.be/NkbFeu6IZwY)", "I think you're missing the forest for the trees. Put it this way -- if you and I both knew Dolly and all the amazing things she's done throughout her life being a regular normie wouldn't you and I still think she's badass? I do hear you, there are a lot of people who fixate on the concept of celebrity which to me is a silly but I have found in my years life is *so* much better to not worry about what others like. I don't know, my unsolicited 2 cents. Last thought, it's also okay to admire someone -- famous or not. Everything in balance of course.", "How did she put Barbara in her place with so much class like that? LOVE HER", "Did someone hurt you as a child? Calm down amigo.", "Dolly Parton is too good to be running for office", "Not recently, I'm afraid", "The people that use the gym with him, I'd guess. \nI could have lived the rest of my life not knowing that he urinates in water bottles during heavy workouts.", "Those lyrics aren't based on a true story at all", "Yeah... he didn't act in a fun, natural way with kids or in general which gives off a creepy vibe. \n\nHe's beloved by adults today, but there's no doubt that he was an odd man. People would have accepted it just as readily if it had come out that he was a child molester. (Not that I think he ever was)", "Dolly understands why she's confident. When told people think she looks like a joke, her reply was I know I'm talented and gifted with a good body, the jokes on them. \n\nMost people are not comfortable enough with themselves to be different. Dolly understands the big picture and her role. It didn't make her mad or sad. She knows that isn't appropriate, and actually made a positive spin on the situation. In total control of her emotions and can explain why.", "I could've sworn you were trying to rickroll or Manning face us, but you were legit. And Jesus, 75??? Talk about aging well", "I worked at a record store back in the 90s, and had a manager who had a surefire method for telling which new artists actually had talent: If they looked weird in their promo pictures, he knew they'd be great. Too-long nose? Unattractive face? He was definitely picking up the album to give it a shot.", "100% the man lived for animal conservation. It wasn’t until I was older I even realised he wasn’t just a big deal in Australia, he was known across the whole world for his efforts to protect wild life.", "“American singer-songwriter Dolly Parton has composed over 5,000 songs throughout her career.[1] The total number of individual song titles she has recorded and released is 956, totaling over 1,100 individual recordings when studio recordings, remixes, and live tracks are combined.”\n\nWikipedia: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_songs_recorded_by_Dolly_Parton", "You're not alone. His cadence, eye contact, and everything gives off \"serial killer\" vibes. Like the way he puts his shoes on and shit all proper like *every time*, American Psycho.", "The lyrics are gold as well. It's overplayed because it's a fantastic song that touches an experience everyone understands.", "This clip proves that Walters is low class hack", "Walters did nothing but show her disrespect the whole time. ugly and very disappointing.", "Does that mean it’s also BS like IQ is?", "have you listened to 9-5", "Dolly Parton could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and everyone would be like *shrugs* \"Jolene shouldn't have tried to steal her man\"", "There's a wonderful poem by Edward Field about film star Mae West, and Dolly very much puts me in mind of a few of the lines from that poem.\n\n>She does not need to be loved by you\n\n>though she'll give you credit for good taste.\n\n>Just because you say you love her\n\n>she's not throwing herself at your feet in gratitude.\n\n>She expects the best for herself\n\n>and knows she's worth what she costs\n\n>and she costs plenty-\n\n>she's not giving anything away.\n\n>Every word and look and movement\n\n>spells Independence:\n\n>she likes being herself.\n\n>And we who don't\n\n>can only look on, astonished.", "While that was a stupid way to respond, Feldman has alleged this for years. He always promised he would drop a major bombshell to out all these people, and he has never done so. So my conclusion is he was either lying about it, or he is enabling their continued skirting of justice and the danger they pose to other potential victims.", "She is quick on her feet and graceful as hell. I would have been like \"you know what bawbwa, fuck you. Next question\"", "EQ? Only kind of. It hasn't been abused as much as IQ has. Emotional Intelligence tends to see a lot of use that", "I remember there was a lot of backlash on Steve Irwin doing a crocodile demonstration with an infant Robert in his arms.\n\nI mean I'd trust his judgement regarding the safety of crocodile demonstrations more than anyone in the world, but I can relate to thinking it's a bit of an unnecessary risk at any rate.", "Actually, in 1977, you could have asked either.", "Ah fuck", "I never said it impressed me. It was more of an observation than anything.", "So did the 70s (and earlier).", "https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/r9orl0/comment/hndzpua/?utm\\_source=share&utm\\_medium=web2x&context=3", "Dolly is the model of class.\n\nBaBa is the model of crass.", "To save kids from being raped? Yes.", "She fucking killled it in Gucci, the rest of the movie was fair to middling but she is great and saves the film in my opinion.", "This reminds me of Steve Harvey who says atheists have no \"moral barometer.\" All the while he's had 3 wives. Doesn't surprise me, since this is the same person who said \"men cheat because women _allow_ them to.\"\n\nBarbara Walters = Steve Harvey\n\nThat's all I'm sayin'.", "Wtf kind of line of questioning is this even?", "For just a second, when she glanced up, the thought went through my head that Dolly's the south's Princess Diana. I remember Diana giving that same look. The same quality of a person.", "This best part about this interview is that the questions were asked the answer was allowed to be spoken and heard...uninterrupted. I would very much like that interview style to reemerge.", "[*Dolly Parton’s America*](https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/dolly-partons-america), by *Radiolab* producers Jad Abumrad and Shima Oliaee.\n\n>\tIn this intensely divided moment, one of the few things everyone still seems to agree on is Dolly Parton—but why? That simple question leads to a deeply personal, historical, and musical rethinking of one of America’s great icons. Join us for a 9-part journey into the Dollyverse.", "Doc Watson, legend. But those other guys aren't real country (regardless of whether they have banjos or hats)", "Heard they’re swingers too", "Ah yes, a Beaty beyond compare. I knew that song was about him.", ">Managing a household is plenty of work even without children\n\nLOL no it isn’t", "She tells this story about when she was a kid seeing a woman dressed the way dolly dresses and, thought she was the prettiest person in the world. Even though every one else is town thought she looked like a tramp. \n\nSo when she got older she dressed that way for herself. And when people laughed she laughs right back at them.", "I swear all the godammotherfuckintime. But a lot of times I like to just say B or C or D because I get bored/am a dork. I call my diet cokes DCs now. And it's not shorthand for dick cunt.", "I never knew much about Mrs. Parton but I'm extremely impressed by how well she handles these questions. I'd need a lot of practice or a lot of time to give answers this good.", "Ah fair point! That’s a good one. Was so great in Deadpool.", "Miley has a great version of Jolene", "Im really hoping you're not suggesting that Steve fucking irwin gave off serial killer vibes but im having a tough time reading it any other way.", "If the WBC pickets your funeral, you know you did something right.", "I’m curious what you mean when you say IQ is BS.", "Now when I count to three..", ">journalists crap if they just ask soft ball questions.\n\nAsking if her tits were real and calling her a hillbilly is inappropriate no matter who you are. Saying they were hard ball questions is some real bullshit!", "Barbara walters has always been a shit heel.", "Is your problem with it the rewording or the synth strings?", "That's Babwa Wawa and a ***LEGEND***.", "barbara walters is a scumbag", "If Sean Connery was still alive he would hit her with an open hand.", "Barbara Walters is such a cunt", "She tells him in all seriousness on national television \"I thought you were supposed to be funny\"\n\nShe's a mega bitch", "I'm gonna take this opportunity to link [this version](https://youtu.be/CMrfM711vXI) of Jolene. Its slowed down and kicks so much ass.", "What a cunt.", "Lol WTF is this condescending bullshit? I'm just saying that marriages don't matter.", "I remember my mom talking about her when I was little and saying how outrageous she was, and how shameful, and a \"bimbo\" and all that. I can't believe THIS is what she thought was shameful. Dolly is so great.", "Are they still a thing even", "Walters is horrid. Dolly is a fuckin treasure.", "You see her early on that Dolly is one of the most intelligent people around. Her poise and her manners are a testament to her \"hillbilly\" upbringing, but her intellect is her's alone.", "I think context is important though. This was during the second wave of the feminist movement. And Walters was at the forefront. She was the first female Today Show host and the first female co-anchor on a network evening news show. She also made her career telling women's interest stories, something that wasn't really done before her. While Dolly was out there, despite her obvious brains, playing up the southern bimbo schtick, something that would be seen as working against feminism. So, feminists really wanted to know why Dolly looked and acted like she did.\n\nThat said, Dolly was ahead of her time with her answers and had the correct view of where feminism would go a decade or so later.", "Man, babara walters was a b*tch lol but Dolly was ready tho.", "she could totally have brought out dolly's personality and intelligence without attacking her style and appearance, yet she took the low road as BW often did in interviews. These weren't tough questions they were juvenile journalism.", "Nobody mentioned the Avett Brothers in this thread yet and I’d count them in with your list as well.", "He has named multiple specific people over the years.", ">I never said it impressed me.\n\nOkay. Fair, that's true.\n\nYour comment still insinuates it did. You only sit on the fence regarding liking Walters not her techniques used here.", "I hope not.", "Exactly. Remember when he was going to release a big bombshell film, charged $20 entry to watch online while simultaneously premiering the film at the DGA headquarters, only to claim that they couldn’t air it because hackers were trying to stop the film from being shown? ([source](https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/story/2020-03-10/corey-feldman-documentary-sexual-abuse))", "She’s a bitch in every interview", "She is the best", "Nope. If you've watched decades worth of her one-on-one interviews, you'll eventually realize what a snobbish, judgemental jerk she truly is.", "I think you were far from the only one who found it creepy. Until the past couple years he really wasn't as popular as he is now.", "Man...fuck Barbara Walters", "Epstein isn't Hollywood. You're probably confused with Weinstein. But you inadvertently prove my point: while there are certain limited slices of abuse, your false perception of the scale is like that of many: wildly overblown.\n\nYou embellishing the hoax to add some shadowy story of assassins taking out Feldman proves the other part of my explanation.", "Ehhhhh I don't think the \"yo dem titties fake or not?\" question really had a place in the interview.", "This is such an odd interview, because what makes Barbara Walters suck is what makes the interview so good and at the same time means she’s actually being perhaps inadvertently a good interviewer while at the same time horrible person. These were a lot of the rude questions the public was wondering about Dolly at the time and asking those questions and giving Dolly a platform to answer them directly and genuinely was probably the best way to disarm people that were asking this in the public. While also it is shitty to give those questions, stereotypes, messages about image, her marriage, and southern culture a larger platform.", "I’ve been able to put my son to sleep with his cover of the trapeze swinger (originally Iron and Wine) ever since he was born. It’s so calming and tells such a great story.", "she is one of a kind. What a class act.", "Absolutely Queen. If the United States had power to give ordain royalty it would be to Dolly Parton.", "State your claim and I'll determine if you're embellishing or not.", "The ease with which she communicates her thoughts and articulates difficult ideas into something plain and manageable is enviable. What a charmer.", "If anyones interested in some modern country music that isnt white people rap, I'd check out Jason Isbell, Sturgill Simpson, or Billy Strings. \n\nThey are each fantastic songwriters. Some albums and song recommendations below. \n\nSturgills stuff ranges from bluegrass to space trucker music, but I'd check out the album Metamodern Sounds in Country Music. For a song, I'd look at Turtles All The Way Down or The Promise.\n\nJason Isbell plays with the line between country and rock, but I'd check out his album The Nashville Sound. For songs, Cover Me Up, If We Were Vampires, or Something To Love. \n\nBilly Strings does bluegrass, but I've not listened to many of his albums. For songs, I'd recommend Dust In A Baggie, Meet Me At The Creek, or Watch It Fall.", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sgb2cUqFiY", "They had always presented Barbara Walters as a respected journalist who interviews heads of states. \n\nHer response to his allegations must have disheartening to any victims back in 2013 and prolonged the silence.\n\nI agree with your conclusions.", "Not exactly. Few people realize most of it was developed a decade ago for SARS but was then shelves. It's an extremely lucky break that COVID-19 is so closely related and that scientists were able to leverage all that prior progress.", "Dolly is a treasure. And the interviewer is rude and entitled", "You could be right, but far as I know the portion from the rights holders organizations is equal. Performers of course do get opportunities do make money elsewhere. But of course a song can potentially be performed by multiple artists, so the songwriter can get paid over and over that way.", "Dolly, Whitney, and who is the third?", "They used to, it’s become an increasingly less viable career option. With the way that artists are paid today, You may have heard that musicians make most of their money on performances now rather than royalties. The songwriter does not get the same cut. And Streaming services pay absolute garbage", "I really appreciated this response. Just wanted you to know that. It’s a great take on this. I would have left this thinking “Barbara Walters is a cunt” (which she may be, I don’t know and don’t care to pay attention to it), but now I have an appreciation for the interview because it makes me love Dolly even more.", "He promised huge names who are/were at the top of the industry. Who did he name that was at the top of the industry, and who wasn't already outed or alleged? Like, I think he jumped on the Harvey Weinstein bandwagon, but that was after it was already a bandwagon.", "Same, but it's Silver Dagger that gets me.", "\"I've had two marriages fail so now I have to ask you, how do you have such confidence in a marriage to someone you aren't constantly watching like a hawk?\"\n\n\"Better judgement?\"\n\nI can see where her questioning is coming from. People project.", "What!?!? Jolene and ill always love you? How much in total earnings from then til now did she make in that day? She deserves it all (and the presidency) but dayam. I wish I had a phone line to that muse", "Yeah this is the type of shit I'm talking about.", "Nah, it's because she can give me a Stand ability", "The closest I've come is shooting 2 under par in 9 holes. I shot 8 over on the front 9", "I guess it comes down to how you define country and where you draw the lines between genres.\n\nBut I do agree that Doc Watson is a legend :)", "\"Only I can paint like an intro student for decades!\"", "I think you're reading more into my comment than is there. I was mainly describing why Walters is viewed as a strong interviewer and has had a successful career, which was in reply to someone saying Walters doesn't look good here, but she still brings out a good side in Dolly.\n\nI can acknowledge someone's success without being impressed by it, and my own personal feelings on her techniques didn't seem relevant to the point I was making.", "BW has always been an insufferable bitch", "Yeah, it's funny, because we seem to get a few singers trying to, for want of a better term, \"appropriating\" unattractiveness to seem more talented. \n\n\"See! She doesn't wear (blatantly obviously) makeup! Look, her clothes look like they're from a Detroit thrift shop (from designer Mike Folston's 'Shabbé' line - that faded torn cotton sweatshirt is $795)! She (ie, her seven-person social media team who researches and writes for her) posted on Insta last week that she was feeling bloated today! Gosh, suuuuurely she must be talented, and not because her dad owns stakes in 3/4 of the radio stations in America!\"", "I don't want to be that guy, but Bob Ross was a bit of a mess. I like him, but he's not quite up to Fred/Dolly levels.\n\n>Ross and Ridge's marriage ended in divorce in 1977, allegedly due to Ross' infidelity; she died shortly after the divorce, leaving Steve Ross in Bob's custody, where the two grew particularly close.\\[35\\] Ross and his second wife, Jane, had no children together and in 1992, Jane died of cancer. In 1995, two months before his death, Ross married for a third time, to Lynda Brown.", "I think what Walters was really saying was is, ‘Please tell me you aren’t for real and that the life that you describe doesn’t exist, because if it does, then I am going to have to face the fact that I simply don’t have it.’", "And Jolene was Canadian... Sorry", "Isn't he a scientologist? Or was that someone else?", "Somebody call Chris Brown….", "They do. Sia is one example. Yes, she's had a couple of hits as a singer. She's done limited performing. But she's an absolutely song factory, writing songs for tons of hit artists, earning her much more than her own performances have.", "Yes, Senator Edward Brooke", "Those fuckers protested the Foo Fighters. Who in the hell has a beef w/ Dave fucking Grohl?", ">Barbara Walters interview with Corey Haim, and Corey Feldman.\n\n[Source](https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/cqdg8d/barbara_walters_incredibly_creepy_response_to/) because someone is a lazybones.", "Yeah because she’s willing to race to the bottom!", "If that’s what she was trying to say then she was really, really bad at saying it. All I got from that video was condescension. It made Walters look like an asshole and it’s a bad way to run an interview. But, the 70s were a different time that I can barely comprehend. Dolly didn’t conform so that was probably enough for Walters to act the way she did in the eyes of the viewing public.", "I don’t like her music. It sounds whiny and corny to me (except Jolene, which is a truly haunting melody).\n\nBut while listening to my NPR app one day, the podcast Dolly Parton’s America came on. I listened to all 10 episodes, and I do not think there is a public figure alive or dead as admirable as she. She taught me that there is truly only one way to inspire other people, and that the way to do it isn’t to be impressive, nor is it to tell other people that they can follow and achieve their dreams — rather, it is simply to be yourself. Because there is nothing more inspiring and liberating as to see someone else allowing themselves to be who they are. What greater permission can you possibly receive to be yourself than to see someone else giving themselves permission to do the same? There is only one person who can inspire you, and that is yourself, by actually paying attention to your own wants and needs and interests and desires and following them. But you can’t know what they *truly* are unless you allow yourself to know what they are, and the only way to know what they are is to be yourself and me feel them. Feelings motivate, quite literally. You act in response to them. They put you in motion. But you can’t have them by imitating someone else or listening to what they have to say. You need simply to be them yourself, have them yourself, snd find out who you are.\n\nBut I still don’t like her music.", "im the 1000th comment :)\n\n​\n\nNo, I'm not :(", "I hate you for this...\n\n\nBut take your fucking upvote you bastard.", "I was just marveling at the line \"the lowest of stoops are made to be fashionable\"", "There is truly only one foolproof way to hide fear and shame from oneself: condescension. Every fiber of Dolly’s being terrifies Walters because if she’s for real, it means that it is actually possible to have this much love in your heart and security in your soul, and Walters will have to own up to the fact that she has neither. That’s why she is such a condescending asshole — she wants to convince herself it’s obvious that none of what Dolly is can be real, because the possibility that it is scares her to death.", "[Here it is.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsCM7NeFu5w) Barbara Walters is a piece of shit, through and through.", "Wait, why would Bob Ross having a career in the military cause him controversy?", "Someone's clearly never managed a household.", "Dolly Patron’s America from the creator and producers of Radiolab. It’s as interesting to Dolly fans as it would be to someone who had never heard of her.", "Based off of [this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsCM7NeFu5w), it really seems like she is an old-industry bitch.", "And that is an interview with Feldman, not Haim.", "Which rude question? Seems like she handled all 30 rude questions", "I thought this entire thread was hilarious and in jest, but then people actually got upset :(", "She is indisputably one of the greatest song writers of all time. Thousands of very well known songs recorded by hundreds of artists. You would have to really go out of your way to avoid hearing several of them.", "This is where she interrupts with, \"you're damaging an entire industry.\"", "Dolly is incredible and should get a lot more respect as she does. Just the way she speaks her heart, you know she's honest and very humble. What a beautiful human being!", "Tacky cow.", "she’s a real life hannah montana!", "Yeah dolly is all class", "What possible furtherance of the femenist cause could have been served by asking if her tits were real?", "Not a huge fan of your comments…..I don’t know anything else about you….so yeah, not a fan.", "She does a fantastic cover of Stairway to Heaven", "Very well played", "And that's even before he says \"I know you and you're perfect just the way you are\" or whatever. Even as an 8 year old I thought 1) You don't know me 2) I'm not\n\nOne of my co-workers drank Rodger's doctrine hard and now pukes it out on students ad nauseam. He'll tell just about every student that they're absolutely the best. No constructive criticism. Always platitudes. It is hard to grow as a person when you're told you're already perfect on a semi-daily basis.", "That's far too generous, I'd give her a C- at best", "I've never really read any of your comments, except for this comment right here, and I've never respected you, and this comment has done nothing to change that. Your intelligence and eloquence is yet to be confirmed.", "Really? Every clip I see she is over acting SO much. Turned me off from that movie.", "Very confused as to how that has anything to do with the context of this thread about the lovely Dolly Parton but you do you friend.", "Wasn't that why Corey never did back to the future? Cuz he got blacklisted for whistle-blowing?", "Yes. She interrupts Feldman. Haim is not there. He is dead by that point.", "> Epstein isn't Hollywood. You're probably confused with Weinstein.\n\n[I literally spelled that out.](https://old.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/r9orl0/dolly_parton_outclasses_barbara_walters_rude/hneyp79/) Note where I said Weinstein and Epstein were good friends.\n\n>But you inadvertently prove my point: while there are certain limited slices of abuse, your false perception of the scale is like that of many: wildly overblown.\n\nI proved no point of yours at all. You ignored everything I said and made a strawman of it. We have literally evidence that Weinstein and Epstein were not only good friends but were grooming underage girls together. We also know that Epstein flew multiple hollywood celebs and execs to his private island where he sold underage girls.\n\n>You embellishing the hoax\n\nI've done nothing of the sort. I provided evidence from a literal trial and the lawyer who represents the girls Epstein abused.", "What a gem", "https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/02/world/dolly-parton-moderna-vaccine-covid.html\n\nDolly Parton has helped fund Modern a saving millions of lives. She's like the female Bruce Wayne as far as I'm concerned.", "\"Would I call you a hillbilly?\" Um, idk bitch, would you?", "It’s not rude. She’s setting her up", "He was pretty open about how he was a di and was a hard ass. You don't make his rank without ruffling at least a few feathers along the way.", "You the cart narc?", "Take down every single confederate statue in a public place and replace them with Dolly statues.", "They never said gold digger... they said house husband who still contributes to the family, just not so much financially. There's not really anything inherently wrong with not earning an income, you can still be a valuable part of the human race.", "Steve Irwin was considered a bit of a showoff and an idiot in Australia. He was seen as someone putting on a character for the benefit of Americans. He also dangled his baby son in front of a crocodile which was very controversial.", "Use less E's", "👌", "You can not earn a dime and still contribute to society and be a valuable part of the human race.", "Barbara Walters seems like a cunt.", "She is a treasure.", "He was using Dolly Parton and her husband's situation as an example. They have no kids themselves but many nieces and nephews. That's what they were referring to.", "Charlie Sheen for one. And he reported one of the abusers to the police in 1993, over a decade before the abuser was caught.", "Yeah.... I mean I'm not trying to be mean about her acting but the only people who seem to think she's doing particularly well tend to be big fans of hers.", "They’re talking about Mr. Rogers", "And now she sits on a whole panel of intolerable shrews.", "I simply don't think it's right to judge or have an opinion on someone if you don't know them. It's weird to me.\n\nIt's not about them being \"celebrities\" or being larger than life. It's about forming strong opinions about someone's character/person without even having met them.\n\nLike, I brought those two up because they *seem* like incredible, amazing people. I'd **love** to meet Keanu and Dolly. But until then, I'm not going to participate in the idolatry, pretending like I know more than their professional work and a couple of headlines/interviews.\n\n> I have found in my years life is so much better to not worry about what others like\n\nAbsolutely could not agree more. But imo, \"liking\" something is not in the same ballpark as celebrity worship.", "Well I'll be dipped in shit and rolled in breadcrumbs if that isn't the perfect response to the entire situation.", "All those artists are fantastic suggestions. Just have to mention that Billy Strings is an absolute monster on the guitar. Like a bluegrass virtuoso. I can listen to that dude all day.", "Speaking of Garth Brooks and body count.... Where are the bodies Garth?!", "https://youtu.be/h5A_Sc1c3VI\n\nOn mobile so forgive the lazy link, but this is my personal favorite of her performances.", "The maudlin lyrics.", "I have so many questions for DP’s publicist. Any line of questioning would have to be approved by me (in writing) before I would allow any “journalist” to even be in the same room as my celebrity client, let alone these seemingly spontaneous, invasive questions for a sit-down. Agree Dolly handles these icky-sticky questions with grace and class, 11/10", "So Feldman's biggest bombshell is a supposed and unverifiable allegation from a dead guy, about an actor not at the top of the industry who everyone already knew was pervy and kinda insane? This is not what he built up.", "This was the most put-on attempt at a country accent I've ever seen lmao", "The Imagination Library - My 2 year old gets so excited when she gets her book in the mail from \"Aunt Dolly\" each month.", "That Barbara Walters sure is a cunt", "It is incredible what Dolly Parton has done for children's literacy. Over 155 million books mailed to kids...for free. Most of my kids' favourite books are \"Dolly books\". I can only name two or three of her songs, but she is still one of the most influential and important people I can think of.", "A Master Sergeant? Not really. Even as a First Sergeant, it's mostly deskwork at that level and as a medical records person, you don't really need to ruffle any feathers. \n\nHalf the NCOs on base I know are asskissers, and the other half work hard for their rank.", "I think that's kind of an insult to Mr. Rogers to compare them. Dolly is cool, and popular right now thanks to the PR that she gets whenever she releases a book or podcast, but I don't want to compare the man who wanted to educate and help children express themselves on public television with the capitalist who has had a park devoted to herself, with dangerous rides and a Confederate-themed dinner show where the South wins.", "I've always liked Lady Gaga's music but I appreciated her more after I saw a video of her doing a kind of Q&A with the Dalai Lama. At first I thought it was really weird because about 90% of the video was her talking and I thought \"how on earth could somebody be arrogant enough to do an interview with the Dalai Lama and dominate the conversation?\" But then I found out the whole thing wasn't really meant for people like me who already like the Dalai Lama, it was aimed at a Chinese audience, where she was super popular and he's controversial, and she actually risked losing a huge amount of money to do it because she could have had her albums banned from the Chinese market. She's smart and talented and seems to genuinely have a kind heart, and if she turns out to be another person like Dolly we'll all be very lucky. :)", "Media never changes.. scumbags", "In love with Dolly Parton even more. Such a cool person. For some reason I’m getting bisexual vibes from her…", "Why is she asking about the size of a 12-13 year olds breasts? Fucking creep.", "She’s a bitch ~~in every interview~~ FTFY\n\n[Norm Macdonald Hates Barbara Walters](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ux5D3xesgd0)", "no my friend, that isn't a bitch, that is a straight up cunt.\n\nI honesty can't wait for the day she dies so Reddit can't post all the human garbage shit she has done e.g. this, trying to out Ricky Martin in the 90's when it would have killed his career, the Corey Fledman interview. she is just a trash human who lives in a bubble", "What gets me about this thread is that that isn't what Barbara Walters was doing at all, and Dolly knew it...the strange part is that somehow, a bunch of people who grew up in the age of the internet think that a ***scripted*** interview contained questions that weren't agreed upon in advance", "Wish the username checked out", "Alright, man, we're all deeply and terribly sorry that this victim of sexual abuse was not abused by people of more fame.\n\nCan you drop it now, or will you keep complaining he is damaging the poor, misunderstood Hollywood industry?", "I have spent enough time with narcissists to explain this, they can't comprehend that you can actually be a really nice person and that such behaviors aren't just an act.", "Dudes a beast. Live versions of Meet Me At The Creek blow my mind.", "That's one I think I would be fine with actually. After all this time, I may have to concede that one to Mr. Connery.", "Steve Irwin is in there for sure.", "What she says at 2:39 really just shows how developed she is as a person overall. Like she really could have probably succeeded in just about any path in life, some might've been harder than others but that's a winning mentality right there.", "Maybe, but back then it was like interviewing Madonna in the 80’s snd 90’s and NOT asking about her intentionally sexualized persona used to shock and grab headlines. \n\nI mean I like Dolly, she seems wonderful and is obviously extremely talented. But back in very conservative days in country music no less she got HUGE breast implants and had other work to grab eye balls and media attention. Lol, I mean…it worked.", "She wrote the song after meeting a little girl at a carnival. She told the little girl \"you're so pretty I'll write you a song. What's your name?\" ...\n\n\"JOLENE\" \n\nOr words to that effect", "And ahead of her time: it's not until very recently that women seeking to \"enhance\" their looks, explore fashion, express their femininity, etc became as accepted as it is today. Plastic surgery was hush-hush and shameful. Feminists shamed women who wanted to be girly and leaned into the narrative that caring about your looks means you're not smart. We can't have our girls dressed up as princesses because apparently it's fucking wrong for a little girl to want to wear a pretty dress. These were all accepted norms in feminism even until the 2000s. \n\nDolly was like, hell yes I love the way I look. I love my damn boobs. I love my blonde wigs. I love making a splash, experimenting with makeup and fashion, being womanly, getting my nails done. Being feminine isn't shameful. Caring about your looks isn't anti-feminist. Plastic surgery isn't anti-feminist. Women shamed each other about this stuff for decades after this interview and Dolly has just OWNED IT since day 1 and thats why I love her.", "I’m against picketing but I don’t know how to show it", "Funny because when NPR interviewed her she vehemently denies being feminist because she “loves men”. That’s cool, shoot down a whole movement. Someone with that much power behind their words has more responsibility to research what they’re talking about. I honestly will never forgive her for helping give feminism such a bad name.", "Oh no! The victims aren't putting enough of their necks on the line for your entertainment!", "That's interesting but not exactly damning. I haven't followed the case hardly at all though.", "I was signed up for this from my hospital when my daughter was born and didn’t know it. We’ve had around 20 books now and my daughter loves them.", "Desktop version of /u/colourmeblue's link: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jolene_(song)>\n\n --- \n\n ^([)[^(opt out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiMobileLinkBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^(]) ^(Beep Boop. Downvote to delete)", "*\"I would never stoop so low as to be fashionable, that's the easiest thing in the world to do\"*\n\nBruh. Dolly was punk af, damn", "...his show ran for 40 years, wth are you talking about he wasn't popular until the last couple of years?", "I feel like there's a reason she kinda died out as social media erupted. If social media was a thing back then, she'd have to learn to wipe a second butthole.", "He didn't even allege that it was himself whom Sheen assaulted, he alleged it about a deceased person. My original point was that Feldman has built up this promised bombshell that was supposed to drop about this vast ring of child abusers involving big people at the top of the industry. The reason why that is important is because he is suggesting this ring exists, A, and B, is being covered up by the industry in general. What he ended up producing by and large is a list of a few incidents that allegedly happened with bit-part actors. So again, was he lying or exaggerating about the vastness of the phenomenon, or is he allowing them to potentially continue victimizing? Furthermore, if he is lying or vastly exaggerating the problem, that IS besmirching an entire industry unfairly. The obscenely rich, privileged and entitled elites of Hollywood don't need my defense, nor do I sympathize for them. But truth is truth, and I'd like to know if there are abusive actors, directors, etc who do not deserve the fandom or patronage. They should also not be afforded the opportunity to continue the abuse.", "\"Delicate\"? No. Intrusive.\n\nBarbara Walters had a choice. She chose to ask those questions. Even long after this, when she was the one running the shows she appeared on, she pulled this crap.\n\nDon't rob women of their agency.", "His show was directed at ages 2-5. There a bit less nuance in those age groups.", "Reading comprehension. Study about it.", "A post about Dolly?\n\nThat's an upvote", "The questions Walters ask do more, frankly, to show her garbage belief system more than anything. \"If you value freedom, why get married?\" Damn, Walters, that's some upbringing you've had. I imagine this is why people hate the media. So insular in their perspectives.", "Barbara Walters is such a cunt. I used to think it was because she's old, but this just showed me she's looked and acted the same for the past 60 years.", "Fun fact: Dolly Parton is Miley Cyrus’ godmother, and they communicate regularly by literally mailing cassette tapes to each other of voice recordings (Dolly Parton doesn’t use the phone or internet).\n\nIt was in Miley’s JRE interview", "I never knew Barbara Walters that mean and bitter.", "That's the one that stuck out to me, at least in the first minute. To quote Peter Griffin, \"Who the fuck starts a conversation like that? I just sat down!\"", "She is a true rock star!", "I mean having both physical evidence corroborated by the person who flew the plane should be pretty damning. Not to mention the testimony of the girls who were part of the trafficking...I mean, we're really at a point where anyone who thinks that hollywood doesn't have huge problems with both sexual predators of children, teens, and adults of both sexes, we're denying reality.", "Barbeve Warvey is a busta ass bitch is all I'm sayin'.", "Vin Diesel isn't fond of him.", "Oh fuck Barbara Walters. Just because she is and has always been hideous she tries to shit on Dolly. Typical.", "Sorry, are you ***disappointed*** that a CSA survivor's allegations aren't as tabloid-worthy as you expected? Not juicy enough for you?\n\nAlso this is such a silly point to make but Corey Feldman is now 50 years old and his allegations of abuse are from his adolescence/young adulthood. Of course the people he is naming aren't household names over 30 years later.", "What’s wrong with this cover? I was impressed. I’ve always known of lil nas x as some shitty rapper, but that cover sounded really good to me.", "straight up", "I'm glad those men escaped.", "Is that one of Odessa’s recipes?", "Barbara walters has always been a shallow, rude, button pushing bitch. It was my first impression and it was reinforced every time her media came across my path. I’ll never understand how she achieved the stature she did. Gross.", "Couple things: I don't know that much about either of these women tbh. But, from this exchange, I have gained respect for Dolly and lost it for Barbara. Between this and the Corey Feldman interview where she defended pedophiles, I kinda suspect she's a terrible person.\n\nAlso, Holy fuck was Dolly hot. She was always before my time so to speak, but lord have mercy what looks. And apparently also charm and class. And she writes nice songs.", "Dolly Parton’s America is a fantastic podcast about her and it is phenomenal. Just give one episode a go!", "Nah now she sits in her house being cared for by caretakers because she has dementia and doesn't know her own name.", "I have always known who Dolly is because I grew up in the Midwest during the 80s and 90s. \n\nThis is the first time I have actually seen her interviewed and she seems like a truly beautiful person. I understand why she has been famous for so long!", "Dolly, I hope you read this. You're so wholesome", "I'm not saying it's easy, because it isn't. I had a stay at home mom though and I can garuntee you it is not the hardest job of all. You're getting downvoted, but you're right. It can be a hard job, just not the hardest.", "A certain subsect of women have always lifted themselves up by tearing others down. Women are criticized for being stay at home moms or working too much, for wearing too much makeup or being frumpy, for being a bimbo or being a prude, and on and on and on. And most criticism like that comes from other women.", "Dolly Parton is a G.", "Yep, my son sees her picture at the end of each book and says “Thank you, Dolly.”", "If you’re keen to learn anything about her, the podcast Dolly Parton’s America is sensational. It was recommended to me and as a Dolly noob I gave it a crack. It was the podcast that got me into podcasts and I’ve been obsessed with Dolly ever since!", "She may be but, once again, saying she's emotionally intelligent is not detracting from that and saying she's intelligent does not include that. If you compliment someone you don't need to list all of their qualities.", "It wasn't \"yo dem titties fake or not?\" though was it? Barbara was downright bashful asking that question.", "Very astute. The sooner I realized people project, the better I became at dealing with people and ultimately ignoring them. Most people are miserable unfortunately, gotta rise above it.", "It's country class, but there's a great deal of it.", "I like country (mostly ‘89 like stuff) and I like some of just about every genre. Jason isn’t country (takes more than an accent) but he’s my favourite musician past and current.", "Feminism should lift other women up, not berate their looks, minimise their career choices, or question their intellect based on the fact that they grew up poor.\n\nFeminism should strive for each woman to be able to live the life they choose for themselves without being mocked and belittled. Whether she chooses career, or marriage and children, or both, or none. (And the same applies to men, they too should be able to choose the life they want without being mocked).\n\nWalters' questions were disgraceful and rude, and as un-feminist as can be. Where's the empowerment and solidarity? Instead she's sporting a holier-than-thou attitude, thus looking like an ass.", ">Dolly had no problem with them and I’m sure Barbara knew she wouldn’t\n\nYeah because Barbara Walters isn't Joan Calamezzo. The interview questions would've been agreed upon beforehand. Dolly would've known what was coming and agreed to it specifically.", "Weird Al", "And I'm gonna take this opportunity to say check this new [remix](https://youtu.be/ExeQM08TwbE)", "I think older country is fine. Modern country or pop country sucks. It's the blandest of genres. It is, by far from what I've experienced, the most uniform genre of modern times.", "I assume they've just fallen out of the public eye. It was honestly weird that they got so much attention in the first place. There are hundreds of identical groups out there.", "She sits around watching her old footage and going, “Who the heww is that tewwibuh ugwy-ass wepohtuh?”", "Eh - I wouldn’t lump all of them together like that. There’s some damn good ones out there. It’s just that 24-hour cable news and the constant drive for ratings have forced the replacement of quality with quantity.", "What's not to like about hardcore rap music? You need to have an open mind. It's not like the Christian rock music either.", "Dolly Parton - timeless class\n\nBarbara Walters - timeless trash", "I already responded to a different individual who had also tried to strawman my position. It's serves as a good response to your strawman as well\n\n>He didn't even allege that it was himself whom Sheen assaulted, he alleged it about a deceased person. My original point was that Feldman has built up this promised bombshell that was supposed to drop about this vast ring of child abusers involving big people at the top of the industry. The reason why that is important is because he is suggesting this ring exists, A, and B, is being covered up by the industry in general. What he ended up producing by and large is a list of a few incidents that allegedly happened with bit-part actors. So again, was he lying or exaggerating about the vastness of the phenomenon, or is he allowing them to potentially continue victimizing? Furthermore, if he is lying or vastly exaggerating the problem, that IS besmirching an entire industry unfairly. The obscenely rich, privileged and entitled elites of Hollywood don't need my defense, nor do I sympathize for them. But truth is truth, and I'd like to know if there are abusive actors, directors, etc who do not deserve the fandom or patronage. They should also not be afforded the opportunity to continue the abuse.", "She’s just time to go back outside.\n\nNEVER!!", "Barbara Walters is a piece of shit human", "She's such a sparkling, lovely and genuine person.", "Wow she’s all around intelligent.", "The \"popification\" of country music goes back at least to the 1950s. Pop music has always sold more records, so the temptation to appeal to that larger audience has always influenced producers of country music. That's what the \"Nashville Sound\" was all about: blending country with pop. Consequently, every generation of country music has folks talking trash about how the new stuff isn't real country music.\n\nBut yeah, I am saddened by the direction most of the genre has taken in the past 20 years.", "I don’t understand what these people are complaining about? I went to\nThe video and all\nThe comments are like “wow greatest performance ever” lol they’re just and the lyrics were changed? The original lyrics were pretty cringe this version is more classy imo", "“Baba Wawa”", "Barbara Walters is an awful person", "Dolly is a national treasure. My cat has the middle name of Jolene and yes, I sing that song to her.", "Uh, no, are you serious? Why do you people based a person who has a long illustrious career off one clip on Reddit?\n\nShe had bad moments, she had good moments, and she had great moments. \n\nAll in all, she has a legendary career and was a great journalist.", "To piss people off because you are too accepting sounds more like a compliment for me.", "God damn Miss America with those answers.", "And people say she's just a big paid of tits.", "Physical evidence of what? I'll have to look over the testimonies, but I'm sorry if my asking for explanation is denying reality. Sexual abuse happens across the country and it's horrendous, but unfortunately it is often very hard to prove. Even when victims come forward immediately they're treated like shit, it gets covered up etc. Look at how long it took to take down Weinstein, or Larry Nassar\n\nI won't be surprised if there's video or photographic evidence given to strengthen this case, honestly I hope their case is stronger than what you've described so far but, I'll definitely try to check out the testimonies unless you want to summarize more lol", "Your argument is that Feldman promised to uncover a vast conspiracy of childhood sex abuse and exploitation in Hollywood, and he has yet to deliver on his promise.\n\nHowever, you said yourself that he is \"suggesting that this ring exists and is being covered up by the industry.\" Would it not then follow that, perhaps, the most successful and powerful of the accused would be using their success and power to suppress Feldman's accusations? Let's remember he hasn't had a ton of commercial success in the past 20 years or so. They (if they are truly so powerful) definitely have much more money to throw at their lawyers than he does.\n\nYou frame it as though making these accusations is easier than it is. If it were, R Kelly would have been caught and prosecuted years ago. Kevin Spacey would not have had the success he has had. Dan Schneider would probably be in jail now. Rich and powerful people/corporations that back them don't operate under the same justice system.\n\nFraming Feldman's inability to produce verifiable claims of abuse by prominent members of Hollywood's elite as \"affording them the opportunity to continue the abuse\" is victim blaming horse shit.\n\nI'm not sure why this is striking such a nerve with me tonight. I'm not particularly a big fan of his. He hasn't had a significant acting role in at least a decade and has attempted a fairly cringy \"music\" career since then. I think I'm just sick of seeing people put down one of the only celebrities who has consistently spoken out about this for decades.", "3M views. 0 dislikes. I don't think I've ever seen 0 dislikes for a video with so many views. Fir good reason too.100% class.", "Thank you for adding some context here. I adore Dolly and consider Walters to be a shit-heel, a lot of people commenting on here clearly haven't watched many interview shows from this era. People like Walters and Dick Cavett generally pulled few punches when interviewing celebrities in particular because audiences expected that. Plus, Dolly was a very popular person at this time, but she wasn't so widely beloved like today.", "She fucking is an amazing person, that’s why", "Good lord, Barbara Walters is such a bitch lol", ">I think you're reading more into my comment than is there\n\nProbably\n\n>I was mainly describing why Walters is viewed as a strong interviewer and has had a successful career\n\nYes I see that. You also attribute that success to how she is able to ask pressing questions others couldn't. Then you describe how it goes down in this instance and it's just by absolving herself of any responsibility....\n\nThat's just not a great way to backup your claim that she was great at pushing the boundaries in interviews. It's one way of getting around a sensitive topic but not a strong or professional way..", "That’s a relatively new take, although I totally agree", "More and more…\n\nBarbara Walters’ legacy is as…\n\nA major @sshole.", "And that's fine, but nobody is blaming him for being mentally ill. People are blaming him for having \"evidence\" or \"names\" and literally never putting them forth to have anything done to these perpetrators UNLESS people give him money.", "And a couple of facelifts. For someone criticizing another about a wig this is hypocrisy.", "I absolutely adore her, an absolute icon", "Her responses are next level. I'm in awe frankly.", "TIL Steve Irwin put his child inside a blind alligator's mouth.", "This site really is a pedestal for everyone to stand on", "Agree every question. I'm watching this thinking does Barbara Walters hate Dolly Parton?", "I've definitely seen what he's talking about, even if worded poorly. Mister Rogers was *known* when I was younger, but he was more like a meme. A reference brought up for the sake of a joke or a humorous comparison. Relatively recently, he's been getting a huge surge of attention on reddit as a *person* with people talking about him being *good*, rather than just being a character known for being very mild.", "And then somebody back hand that pussy ass bitch Chris Brown", "That's so interesting that *Come on Over* has two masters. As I'm outside America, I'd only ever heard the poppier \"International Version\". Didn't even know the other one existed.", "She looks like Paris Hilton, seriously, her facial features", "No doubt it’s a never ending job and often thankless but hardest, nope.", "Barbara Walters represents an elitist and out of touch point of view. It's why she's still around, she's a puppet of the classless and clueless elites. Dolly Parton is nothing but pure class.", "She asked insulting questions. This is a great interview and Dolly shines so much more than if these were softball questions.\n\nNow go Google an interview from the past year with a Kardashian where the interviewer is just letting them shill their bullshit. It's all very polite, you learn nothing but what they wanted you to know. It's a commercial, not journalism.", "She is a national treasure. She exemplifies both the ideals of our nation and the region she came from. She gives back, and has done so throughout her life. She doesn't grandstand a lot and many of her good deeds fly under the radar. \n\nShe is an example of what a rich person with influence can do when they stick to their morals and ethics.\n\nShe is a hero. One we need, but don't deserve. To think that as a kid I just thought of her as a dumb bimbo bugs me. Now I know she is as real as it gets.", "As far as Steve goes..Serial *killer*? Nah, just a serial sexual assaulter. Man's jammed his thumb up more reptilian assholes than I've put on socks, and he rubbed the whole world's face in the fact that he could just do it openly and get away with it.", "Ahh yes that must be it 😂\n\nAmazing how fragile you children are", "I'm not saying his show, I mean him as a person.\n\nHe was brought up as a joke more than anything.", "I completely forgot that he died. Fuck.", "Where did I say otherwise?", "She is a rare one. A world class beauty, and an even more beautiful person on the inside. This is why she's been such an influence. She walks her talk, all the way.", "I don't even need to look it up. That's just how she does it.", "Montag and Capulets", "Is Dolly Parton's PR team working overtime on Reddit? This past week there have been like 6 Dolly Parton videos strewn across various subs. I mean, I know she saved us from COVID, but come on guys... The slow version of Jolene was pretty cool though", "Dolly educates, too.\n\nhttps://imaginationlibrary.com/", "Talk about a contract in character.\n\nBW seems absolutely wretched.", "good journalism is surely long dead, but i'm not sure that i'd call barbara walters good journalism either. you can ask probing questions without being rude or ignorant.", "Fuck me too", "Same here. Changed schools as a kid to a radically different economic area. Basically all of my friends were what I considered very rich. Realizing, though they were all very, very well to do that there are clearly levels between rich and hyper rich was an eye opener. \n\nIt even drizzled down to the children. Their kids knew who everyone was and what the pecking order was. It was surreal to say the least when almost any of them could never work another day in their life and live like a king. Still, pecking order.", "Dolly first song on her first album is called “Dumb Blonde”. She’s always had, not necessarily critics but people who underestimated her a great deal and she does a great job, smartly, with humor, with talent and songwriting ability, business sense and philanthropy that they are wrong to underestimate her", "her voice is so soothing, i love listening to her talk", "\n>I mean, she basically asks Dolly, \"Are your tits real?\" which is obviously really rude to ask a woman, \n\nTo be fair, in most circles this would also be a rude question to ask a man", "Barbara Walters once interviewed Michael Jackson shortly after his friend Princess Diana died. They were debatably the 2 most famous living human beings at the time, which also meant that the tabloid press (who were responsible for her fatal car crash) harassed them more than anyone else.\n\nDuring the interview, MJ, who was still clearly shaken by the death of his friend, tried to explain how traumatizing it is to be constantly harassed by the paparazzi 24/7 and pleads for privacy.\n\nBarbara's response was essentially \"You're success relies on the media. You can't tell them all what to do.\"\n\nWhat a twat.\n\nEDIT: [Here's a link to that interview](https://youtu.be/Ih4UtlrMMLI?t=187)", "Darn abuse survivors! You expected better from them!\n\nFuck's sake, man.", "Maybe that's one of the things that fostered her polite manner and humble honesty. I would have grown up an incorrigible monster in that situation. If there are things such as saints in the world, she is one of them.", "I don’t know anyone who legitimately *hated* their drill sergeant, unless they were drafted but even then. I know my dad was drafted, hated the military, but respected his drill sergeant quite a bit. Hopefully most people understand they’re doing a job, and anymore you really can’t do hazing or super abusive things. \n\nI think Bob Ross hated doing that job, that tracks.", "And acted like a cunt even back then", "As a wife without children who’s managed a household both without and with a job… respectfully, go fuck yourself. Tidying, cleaning, vacuuming, sweeping, mopping; dishes, trash, laundry; running errands, grocery shopping; preparing lunch, cooking dinner; paying bills = full time job. \n\nA woman once asked her grown son in front of me (when he was complaining his wife “didn’t wanna work”) “How much would you be paying a live-in housekeeper/cook/prostitute?”That’s the job of a stay-at-home spouse, even without kids.", "They protested my church twice growing up. Once for paying for a gay, black and poet to speak at an event and another time when they let women be ministers. \n\nTaught me a lot growing up, which side to be on, and to ignore the bullshit haters especially extremists like the Westboro Baptist church. \n\nFor the record the church I went to was still a moderately conservative Baptist church but compared to the Westboro Baptist we might as well been the black panthers", "A perfect foil", "Congratulations? That’s what most people do before or after work.", "Sometimes a woman just needs a little schlap", "Fuck Steve Harvey and his picket fence teeth", "National. Fucking. Treasure.", "Babwa Walters is like school on Saturday.", "I just knew it was going to be this", "Didn't Garth Brooks try to reinvent himself as a moody grunge singer?", "And from this clip alone it's clear that Barbara is an absolute cunt.", "she's always had that \"dumb bimbo\" looks and voice that also Marilyn Monroe had. and both were extremely smart and lovely women. this short-circuit makes comformists umcomfortable. I love her as much as I always loved Marilyn Monroe.", ">That's just not a great way to backup your claim that she was great at pushing the boundaries in interviews. \n\nI don't see why not. She was able to ask Dolly sensitive (and rude) questions in a way that was disarming and cordial enough that made Dolly comfortable enough to answer when she easily could've taken offense or called Walters out on it. A good skill for an interviewer is being able to figure out how to ask questions without getting their subject to shut down or go on the defensive, which is precisely what Walters did here.", "City Mouse, Country Mouse.\n\nThe elitism of city-dwellers has been a thing for a long, long time. Dolly is a powerful woman - as she shows in this interview. Walters is a snarky, elitist, condescending bitch.", ">\tIf the WBC pickets your funeral, you know you did something right.\n\nLife goals, right here. Sadly, I’ll probably never do anything amazing enough to warrant WBC picketing my funeral.", "I bet you think that song was about him.\n\nDon’t you?\n\nDon’t you?", "Yeah there's a reason. Dementia. She's literally living out her final days housebound.", "Ah, yes, reddit is encapsulated in this thread, fresh and undiluted.", "I keep hoping I can find a better version of this. \n\nIt’s [Jolene by Dolly Parton featuring another Dolly Parton](https://youtu.be/76FOIrKHbXw)", "Eh, Walters has said some definitely not scripted bullshit in a lot of her interviews and cut off her guests because she didn't like their answers. Don't know about this one.", "\"Have you looked like this with 13?\" \n\nWhat the fuck kind of question is that?", "So ... you did something completely selfish which didn't help anyone in any way.\n\nCongrats, buddy.", "I've only listened to country music from gta san Andreas radio station and love them all but soon you realize they all pretty much sound the same if you hear enough country music.", "I am Hispanic and have basic knowledge of country music but I've known about Dolly since the beginning of learning music in English on the 70's. My father purchased Donna Summer cassettes. Etc., but I never thought of DP as trashy as BW tried to depict her and her origins. I'm telling you white \"Americans\" are the most separatists racists beings ever.", "Yup. I'm in India and grew up watching crocodile hunter. Definitely shed a year when I heard the news.", ">Feminism should lift other women up, not berate their looks, minimise their career choices, or question their intellect based on the fact that they grew up poor.\n>\n\nWhich is any feminist that's worth reading is intersectional in their critiques of patriarchy, classism, and other forms of bigotry", "Dolly has said the same. She wanted to hear Elvis's version but wouldn't lose her rights to the song (rightfully)", "It’s easy to hate on Walters but this style of interview is emblematic of sexist, pearl clutching, puritanical panic posited to middle Americans controlled by religious ideology. It is sensationalism that sells advertising. [Watch Madonna get grilled ](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=duzoq8HPCsw) or [Britney getting](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Jz8TtqKaxhA) the third degree.", "Most. And before/after work, errands can’t be run because certain places are closed. And before/after work most people don’t have the energy for all those things. My point is - if one spouse is making enough money to cover rent or mortgage and bills, even if the other doesn’t have a paying job, maintaining the household is still a job, and a very valuable one, even without kids. (WITH kids, I can’t even imagine. My hat’s off.)", "Throwing away the frozen food wrappers in your apartment doesn't really count as homemaking.", "Walters was known for asking the hard questions. She built her career on it and was highly praised for it. She was the first female journalist to earn a $1m salary.", "It's a valid question what with almost all women being insecure about their breastsize.\n\nAnd Dolly's are _massive_, so much so that I've read she start business meeting with new partners by saying 'I understand, so lets get it out of the way, you may stare for five seconds and then we'll get down to business'.", "I love this and I’m stealing it sorry.", "It's a world of dollys", "Flaming locks of auburn hair, ivory skin, eyes of emerald green... It's like literally in the song", "Calling her out for wearing a wig too. WTF?!\n\n“You don’t have to look like this. You’re very beautiful without the wig & fake tits.”\n\nYeah, we know. Dolly is beautiful inside & out. Let the lady sparkle if she wants to!\n\nIt’s so fucking condescending to imply she doesn’t choose to look the way she does for her own reasons.", "What do you mean? AOC wasn't even born when this was filmed.", ">And leftists/woke are the ones famous for \"safe spaces\".\n\nComing from the guy who posts in the infamous \"Flaired Users Only\" sub lmao", "Sure, Barbara...this 'Hillbilly' is a far more respected person than you will ever be.", "You could try joining their church, getting in good with the higher-ups, and then fuck them and skip town and never call them back.", "Listen to the slowed-down version of Jolene. It’s the best. ;)", "We have a similar discussion today, with women choosing to wear Hijab's in western societies.\n\nFrom Walters' perspective back then, Dolly was doing something similar (though probably not something she would have considered as extreme as that).\n\nI agree on your views on what feminism should be and I think Dolly is a great example of that.\n\nOn the plus side, if nobody ever challenged her views on that, she would have fewer chances to express those views.", "Yeah, Walters played a bit of a [heel](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heel_\\(professional_wrestling\\)) in this case", "**[Heel (professional wrestling)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heel_\\(professional_wrestling\\))** \n \n >In professional wrestling, a heel (also known as a rudo in lucha libre) is a wrestler who portrays a villain, \"bad guy\" or \"rulebreaker\" and acts as an antagonist to the faces, who are the heroic protagonist or \"good guy\" characters. Not everything a heel wrestler does must be villainous: heels need only to be booed or jeered by the audience to be effective characters, although most truly successful heels embrace other aspects of their devious personalities, such as cheating to win or using foreign objects.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)", "It's almost like the questions were common softball criticisms of Dolly so that she could answer them completely and deftly, like a straw man.", "I never said it provided no value. I said it wasn’t hard, and it isn’t.", "Someone put it well up higher: she asked questions that Dolly's critics would ask her and gave her the chance to nail answers to them. It was obviously at least partially scripted so Dolly probably knew the tone and trajectory. I'd argue this interview *was* a bit of a softball.", "Walters can be such an asshole. When she hosted The View they had Jimmy Fallon on as a guest. He was on SNL at the time and was known for his impressions, including one of Walters. The women on the show begged him to give them a taste iof the impression. He refused. They pestered him until he gave in. He spoke about 1 sentence as Walters. The audience cheered.\n\nDuring the episode's outro, Walters said, \"I'd like to thank Jimmy Fallon except for his incredibly rude impression of me.\" It was cringe as fuck. I also saw a clip of her interviewing Don Johnson in the 80s. She asked weird sex questions, and he answered. He then asked her the same, and she acted flustered and off-put. She has no business conducting such high-profile interviews. She too timid, too insecure.", "Barbara is basically building a straw man for Dolly to take down. If you think she's stumbling into it or doing it by accident...", "“Do you feel like you’re a joke” lmfao", "This is unrelated trivia, but Robby Krieger of the Doors wrote his first two songs ever in one day: Light My Fire and Love Me Two Times.", "I attended a concert of hers with my family. I rolled my eyes when they invited me--\"That country bimbo!?\" I could name a single one of her songs.\n\nThe performance blew my mind! Her patter between songs was delightful and charming, and her intelligence shone. The songs themselves were captivating, and I ended up recognizing nearly all of them. I've never changed my estimation of an artist overnight like that before or since.", "I came on here to say I love Dolly Parton", "When self-proclaimed victims of sexual assault speak up, It's best to believe them", "Michael Jackson is innocent. RIP.", "I mean, you could say that about literally anything. The web? Already had the internet doing other protocols. Newspapers? We had movable type for hundreds of years before then. \n\nAnd it's not like Dolly actually did any scientific research herself. She's got a big heart and a big wallet and that's how she got the vaccine produced.", "At 31 years old! Not even comparable to 31 year olds today", "So Barb has always been a cunt. Such a shame someone as old as her hasn't grown much in terms of personality.", "Why be *so* rude?", "> Physical evidence of what?\n\nPeople being transported to an island where children were held and sold for sex? We have the flight logs of the people that were brought in, corroborated by the pilot who did it.\n\n>but I'm sorry if my asking for explanation is denying reality\n\nAsking for evidence isn't the denial. It's when I provided you the evidence and you said \"Well, I can see that we have the evidence, but it isn't evidence\".\n\n>I won't be surprised if there's video or photographic evidence given to strengthen this case\n\nPart of the raid on Epstein's home had literal photos.", "That’s a lot of time spent for very little return.", "Nah, Me First and the Gimme Gimmes slay this song.", "I think a lot of people are missing the point of this interview. Barbara Walters is asking the question that people would never say to her face but were always talking about behind her back. And this gives her a platform, a major stage, to answer those questions and prove how ridiculous they are. And the way she does it immediately reveals how pathetic those views of her are. To me that's a damn fine interview. Dolly comes out looking amazing and you get to see a side of her that you never get to see if you only ask the trite boring questions. You get to see how thoughtful and kind and intelligent she is. I don't know I just don't think this is as much a dunk on Barbara Walters as people think it is.", "No, nobody do that.", "I’ve always said she’d be a great politician. Universal support on both sides!", "100% a 14 year old living with his parents lmao", "The more I know of Dolly Parton, the more I love her.", "BW is a cunt.", "chase holfelder did a minor key of that", "Judging by their vocal proud southern heritage, I'm just gonna make some unkind assumptions as another southerner who knows what that amount of pride REALLY means", "It felt rude to me, especially the \"you don't have to look like this\". It sounded really condescending. She was clear that this is how she wants to look and that she's confident and happy like this, but the interviewer told her she doesn't need to as if it wasn't her choice.", "A penis?", "Good observation. Like if Paris learned how to eat a whole sandwich. That’s who she’s look like", "Probably wiped her mouth plenty", "I actually really love [this miley version ](https://youtu.be/wOwblaKmyVw) , and you can tell it was blessed cos Dolly is singing [here](https://youtu.be/f6H4r1kWqSM) with her too. Helps to have her as her Godmother!", "Im reminded of the time fox news was running segments critizing mr rodgers for \"ruining kids\". They basically claimed by calling kids special made the whole generation soft.", "Right on.", "just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they're fragile lmao, what are you on about?", "Hey dumb fuck kids who down vote references you don't understand: \nKnock it off.", "I mean, I've got broad tastes and I went into that hoping to be pleasantly surprised but that sucked a bag of dicks", "Yet she doesn't describe her husband once in that song. The narrator herself is madly in love with Jolene, describing her like a lover would.", "If that's what you got out of my expanded response that specifically addresses the strawman you've ununiquely made, then you have got to spend a little more time critically thinking about the things you read.", " TIL Dolly Parton’s hair is a wig. \n\nAlso Barbara Walters was a massive bitch for 4 mins straight.", "Yeah it's called journalism and Barbara is the best at it. Everyone today has a problem with journalists asking good questions.", "Yes, leisure time and hobbies are selfish. You also shouldn't be happy about your accomplishments with your hobbies. And there's no value in time spent if it doesn't directly help someone. Makes sense very much yes yes", "What a fuckin' role model. I wish I had that much confidence.", "And yet when they offer to build her one- she humbly turns it down\n\n[https://www.instagram.com/p/CLcIEhsjBDP/](https://www.instagram.com/p/CLcIEhsjBDP/)", "Walters is a total piece of shit", "Barbra Walter's was always an ass. I'm not sure how she got to be seen as such a legend.\n\nA quick stroll on youtube and you'll find plenty examples of her amazing interviews.", "Everyone's entitled to their opinion", "Jesus, which question? They were all awful", "Walters only looks bad here because Dolly was ahead of her time and times have since changed. If you were back then, you'd have been wondering all the same things Walters asked. \nYou gotta understand, the kind of feminism you're describing is much newer than you think it is.", "In other words her brain has died and we're waiting for her body to catch up.", "It's not just Tennessee, it covers 1,800 places in the US, Canada, UK, Ireland and Australia.", "Dolly is such a class act. Genuine, honest, down to earth person. Beautiful inside and out. ❤️", "barbs is a big nasty bitch!!!", "Psychosomatic", "In 2010, the episode of The View, while interviewing Larry King on his retirement from CNN, Walters alluded to her impending retirement, stating, \"I know when my time's coming.\"", "Connery was a POS!", "Dolly Parton is a national treasure", "Her music is a national treasure wtf", "Should asked the most important question: When are you going to do a Playboy shoot?", "How anyone can try to insult the intelligence of the woman that wrote Jolene is beyond me. This is from an Aussie who really dislikes country music.", "she also made or gave to libraries a lot", "She’s so unbelievably beautiful and classy Jesus Christ", "I don't know, these kinds of shitty questions are pretty consistent with her career. Like the time she was interviewing Corey Feldman about his claims about rampant child abuse in Hollywood, and she wanted to know if he ever felt about how he was hurting the movie industry.", "True that, including me", "Holy shit, the guy tried to sue her, she settled out of court, he blew all the money, became destitute, she bought his whole song catalogue from him to get him back on top. He sorts himself out, then goes after her to try and buy his song catalogue back, and she *gives it him for free*.\n\nI knew Dolly was a class act but my god, thats like some Jesus-level shit right there.", ">Bob Ross had.... the teacher he is accused of ripping off some how.\n\nUnless you are making a forgery I don't even know how you could rip someone off when it comes to paintings. You can certainly paint in the style of someone, but that is very far from ripping someone off or copying them.\n\nThat would be like saying that every director that uses shaky cam is ripping off Paul Greengrass. No, that's just a camera style it's not ripping someone off.", "Off-topic: Barbara Walters was found in the Black Book", "She has composed over 3,000 songs, including \"I Will Always Love You\" (a two-time U.S. country chart-topper, as well as an international pop hit for Whitney Houston), \"Jolene\", \"Coat of Many Colors\", and \"9 to 5\".", "Thanks, Carl", "Still wasn't as bad/dumb as Michael Jackson holding his kid over the hotel railing.", "Shorry about that", "I have seen this referenced twice today on Reddit, and never seen it before. Where is it from?", "Or maybe... You guys are not as funny as you think you are?", "> You’re an unnecessarily negative person.\n\nIs this a pot and kettle convention?", "Nice try but all bullshit. I could care less about either one of these individuals but I can't stand the smell of bullshit and this post reeks of it. Move along.", "I've never seen this, such a wholesome performance! Steve looked like he was going to pass out when she hugged him.", "All time favourite!\n\nHey - maybe I'll dye my hair...", "Huh, it hadn't occurred to me until you pointed it out, but it seems like Dolly is indeed joining the ranks of, let's call them secular saints modern culture has anointed, along with Mister Rogers, Steve Irwin, Bob Ross, and perhaps LeVar Burton.", "Fuck baba Wawa......", "I mean, Musk isn't any kind of genius. He was born wealthy, got a good education, had the connections to fund some websites during the dot.com boom.\n\nThey were useful websites, but he's hardly an engineering whiz-kid.", "You made a good original comment but just couldn't stick the landing old boy.", "Fuck baba wawa", "Your comment completely changed my perspective of this interview. I'm going to have to agree with you, it just makes much more sense. I would say though that asking about questions about her tits is highly inappropriate, but maybe they agreed to touch on it prior to the filming so who knows.\n\nThe rest of the comment section is just Barbara bad, Dolly good, which just goes to show the hive mind circle jerk reddit can be.", "If you're argument is that r/conservative is like the woke 'safe spaces' because they have to vet people who post because leftist trolls otherwise make having the sub impossible due to brigading etc...while simultaneously Reddit being filled with leftist subs that will instantly ban you for saying the wrong thing...then you should really re-think the logic behind your opinion.\n\n(you also went straight to looking into my profile instead of addressing the facts, which is also telling)", "I don’t know that this is not true… but as an interviewer she is phenomenal. People take her very wrong, because they assume her questions and postures are actually personally hers… but she is playing a role, often devils advocate, that throws her character under the bus in an effort to tease out the misconceptions and prejudices that the world has imposed upon the person being interviewed.\n\nIt’s easy to forget, but interviewing, when done well, is *acting*.\n\nHer criticisms of Feldman were not of his calling out the industry, but of his steadfast refusal to name names and stop protecting the people behind the accusations. (Corey wanted to be paid to name names). \n\nBW often does the 4d chess thing and people assume she is speaking from personal bias… but she didn’t get to be a premier interviewer based on some vague personality, her whole thing was to be a chameleon that teased out the most important things about people. \n\nShe does this in this interview with dolly by intentionally embodying the sexist, puritan power structure that Dolly Parton contrasted so well with. \n\nThe reason Dolly gets to shine is that Barbara plays the part of the critic. This is not an accident.", "Wow... I didn't realize Bawbwa Wawa was such a bitch!", "I actually didn't, I'm not the person you responded to.\nWell known is subjective, if a thousand artists have 10 songs written by Dolly, and their thousand fans enjoy the songs, isn't that well known?\n\nStrange hill to die on, have a nice day though.", "Ok thanks, do you have any source or detailed info about the scope of \"some getting pissed\" about her support of LilNasX rendition and her donation? I ask because a couple of people not liking something is nowhere near comparable to how militant leftists regularly cancel people and ruin their lives over perceived crimes against 'social justice' or 'woke' dogma. Which makes the comparison by u/winterborn89 absurd imo.", "She was also an uncredited producer on Buffy the Vampire Slayer and helped fund the show, which is why she and Buffy share the same birthday.", "Gods, what a wonder she is.", "She used to be live in a shack levels of poor, dresses made out of feed bags levels of poor", "You're embellishing and you're confused about who Epstein is. \n\nYou're the exact example I gave of how people have been conditioned to imaginary every person in the entertainment industry is part of some secret pedophile ring. That hoax is even infused into Qanon.", "Much like when [Harvey Fierstein](https://old.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/n5gtom/harvey_fierstein_with_barbara_walters_on_2020_1983/) outclassed Walters\n\nButttttttttttttttt I think (maybe naively) that Walters is asking stupid questions because it allows her guests to clear up homophobic/sexit/bigoted views that some of the audience might have.", "You have no clue what you're talking about. The COVID vaccine is an extremely close variation of the SARS one that was 95% developed a decade ago, because they're extremely similar diseases. This isn't the place for it, but you really need to educate yourself.", "Lol. My mistake. Third.", "Exactly. As someone else described, she is a vulture plain and simple", "Well I'll say about her what was said about Oprah in another post here recently:\n\nYou don't make it to the top of your field, especially as a woman, by being a pushover. You just don't. That's not saying what she did in that interview was \"right\" or \"good\" but you don't make the kind of career Walters has had by being safe, playing it safe, asking softball questions.", "Yes, BW was a piece of shit back then too….", "Barbara Walters is and always has been a Hag.", "It's really funny to watch her interviews. Her performance persona is of a simpleton hillbilly with huge tits, but while people are distracted by her wigs and curves, she's tearing em apart with razor sharp wit. It's like she's trolling the hosts to reveal how vapid and inane they are for not paying attention to how much she's running circle's round them.\n\n10/10.", "So, not at all.", "Just watched. That was amazing.", "Appropriate typo", "What a twat", "I didn't know about that. What a hero. She gave a million dollars, early. There's no telling what that's been worth to all of us.", "in 1977 Barbara Walters was crazy jealous of Dolly apparently", "Lol not sure if you're kidding or not but it all depends on where you are. \n\nI live in Canada, so CBC is super accessible through the radio or their CBC listen app. I'm not sure if those apps (BBC has a similar one called BBC sounds) work outside the countries they're from, but most also publish their programming as podcasts available through other podcast apps. \n\nIf you live in the US near the border, you might be able to pickup the CBC radio stations.", "Dolly knew exactly what she was getting into, with hard hitting Barbara. And Barahara knew exactly how to help. This was likely at a time when tabloids were lighting Dolly up, and sex jokes about Dolly were very popular with both country folk and city folk. Barbara, with a huge audience, likely was also very calculated on her \"tough questions\" to satisfy the audience and challenge their bias, and also very likely gave Dolly an advanced copy. There was an assist, and Dolly slam dunked it.", "Found Dollys account", "This is exactly right. Redditors are assuming Barahara surprise attacked her. No no no, they came up with the questions together long before. Both have always been very smart people.", "but if you listen to the songs she wrote you would have nothing but respect,", "Dolly knew exactly what she was getting into, with hard hitting Barbara. And Barahara knew exactly how to help. This was likely at a time when tabloids were lighting Dolly up, and sex jokes about Dolly were very popular with both country folk and city folk. Barbara, with a huge audience, likely was also very calculated on her \"tough questions\" to satisfy the audience and challenge their bias, and also very likely gave Dolly an advanced copy. In fact, it's very likely the two of them work together ahead of time to come up with questions and the plan. This was a very common tactic back then and it's honestly still used today. There was an assist, and Dolly slam dunked it.", "I remember an episode with a survey board with three or four answers focused on him, asking what do people think that Steve Harvey is a loyal blank.\n\n\nNot one answer was, \"husband\".", "Look deeper. She asked the questions that the Hicks and the city snobs wanted to hear a half a century ago. Times have changed quite a bit since then. Also, Dolly helped come up with those questions and practiced the answers. That's how it was done back then and that's the condition Dolly agreed to. It was about changing audience bias. It was a team effort, Barahara was on her side believe it or not.", "Look deeper. She asked the questions that the Hicks and the city snobs wanted to hear a half a century ago. Times have changed quite a bit since then. Also, Dolly helped come up with those questions and practiced the answers. That's how it was done back then and that's the condition Dolly agreed to. It was about changing audience bias. It was a team effort, Barahara was on her side believe it or not.", "She's a stand user.", "Exactly. They worked on it together she knew the questions way ahead of time. It was a team effort both of them knew exactly how they wanted the end result to look. That's how it was done back then. They absolutely are going after cultural bias. Together.", "Look deeper. She asked the questions that the Hicks and the city snobs wanted to hear a half a century ago. Times have changed quite a bit since then. Also, Dolly helped come up with those questions and practiced the answers. That's how it was done back then and that's the condition Dolly agreed to. It was about changing audience bias. It was a team effort, Barahara was on her side believe it or not.", "Downvoted. Don't understand what you're talking about.\n\nBut really, cart narc is the dude known for calling people lazy bones. Downvoting because you don't get the reference and take slight out of ignorance is annoying. Not that internet points count for anything.", "Sir Sean Connery*", "The one good thing about the WBC is that they're so evil that they show how much good there is in everyone that is against them. People have found so many creative ways to protest against their bullshit views.", "Wait, he's dead?!", "What", "Have you seen her interview Norm MacDonald on the View back in the day? Yeah, she's a bitch, and very stuck up too.", "spot on", "Right? I started the video to an incredibly offensive question....and they just kept getting worse. \n\nI was like...when does it get \"bad\" because this shit is offensive from the get go.", "Name names. Henry Kissinger.", "Babs vs. Boobs", "To be fair...being classier than Barbra Walters can't be that hard. Dolly vs Barbra is kinda like Godzilla vs a squirrel.", "The museum at Dollywood is absolutely amazing. Even if you have no interest in country music or the history of it, it is still an incredible place, and her life story really is like a fairy tale.", "Anti-Flag are the absolute best.", "Coat of Many Colors is such a good song and a real gem of songwriting.", "Pretty low bar to clear there...", "This interview was a reminder that I don't understand how Barbara Walters made it young and long plus how much I don't like her.", "\"Are you high right now? do you ever get nervous?\"", "Mitch.", "Sounds about right, Sting reportedly gets ~$2k a day from P. Diddy for \"I'll be missing you\" because the later sampled the Police's song \"Every breath you take\" without permission so the Police sued and got 100% of the royalties. Sting has claimed that all that P. Diddy had to do was ask for permission and they would have been ok with it, but the straight up sample without permission pissed them off.\n\n[Every Breath You Take.](https://youtu.be/OMOGaugKpzs)\n\n[I'll Be Missing You](https://youtu.be/NKMtZm2YuBE)", "Your first paragraph and last one don’t match.", "Style and class. I luv Dolly", "Then you clearly didn’t listen to the whole conversation, because after some clarification, it was pretty evident that her operational understanding of Feminism had been different from the conventional understanding at large.", "Walters has done this stupid shit, and gotten burned for it, multiple times in her career.\n\nShe makes the mistake of thinking she's smarter than those she's interviewing, when she isnt.\n\nThe reality is, she's just a moron.", "Linda Ronstadt", "Slacker dreams? Psh, That's some nice generalizing you have yourself there, hick. Take it elsewhere. (Now I see why you did that, it's fun to tell people off.)", "Barbara Walter is a cunt", "Dolly Parton is a national treasure.", "I think she asks the questions that people are afraid to ask but want the answers to. Maybe it’s a question that she wanted to address but didn’t have the reason/platform?", "Oh that poor soul which is Barbara's husband.. I see she's married 4 times, unsurprisingly", "Grew up watching Crocodile Hunter in northern Canada. The guy was a lifeline to the amazing world of wildlife. If you have a chance, check out his Son’s appearances on talk shows like Jimmy Fallon. He is equally as enthusiastic about wildlife and it totally warms my heart. What a beauty.", "I would think they lost some people to the q anon movement based on how both these groups require such an extreme amount of idiocy.", "First time listening to her being interviewed and she really impressed me. Seems like such a genuinely nice person.", "There were several rude questions there and you can tell even at a young age dolly is a special kind of person", "I hear those words in her exact cadence every time I read or hear her name.\n\nI fucking hate Barbara Walters.\n\nAnd the fact that he didn't call her out and was respectful enough to say \"I'm sorry\" just makes it all the more worse.\n\nShe probably knows a fair few pedophiles herself. I believe someone once mentioned she was on a \"list\" but I don't remember the context.", "\"show business is a money making joke... And i just love to joke\" -she knew what was up right from the start.", ">(you also went straight to looking into my profile instead of addressing the facts, which is also telling)\n\nTelling of *what?* That people call out bullshit when they see it?", "Barbara Walters is a terrible person. The kind of person that thrives in Hollywood.", "It's like listening to a conversation between a person and a mentally disabled babboon.\n\n\"bUt aRen'T YoU a jOkE???!!\"", "Next question was, “Why am I so much better than you as a person. Is it your inferior, southern, backwards, corn fed brain?”", "*Question*, singular? \n\n\"Are your tits fake? You're a hillbilly, right? Did you have big tits when you were 11, 12, 13? What's it like being a joke? Why are you even married?\"", "He did name names, they just covered it up. We only got the truth a few years ago:\n\nhttps://www.usatoday.com/story/life/2017/12/06/corey-feldmans-1993-report-sexual-assault-found-santa-barbara-sheriffs-office/928107001/", "\"Did you have big tits when you were 11? Why did you bother getting married? What's it like being a total joke?\" -Just pathetic. It's curious that Barbara made a career out of that shit.", "Rectum? Ya nearly killed 'um", "All what you have written could or could not be true. In any case that is not my point at all and I wonder why did you waste your time writing all of it. Walters is NOT a good reporter as people or her like to think. She is an average one at best. That is all. If her and Dolly conspired for this interview that is irrelevant.", "Yes, so far he has accused his manager, a guy who ran a diner popular with children, as well as his own (Feldman's) personal assistant. He also claims that Charlie Sheen raped Corey Haim on the set of Lucas, outside, in broad daylight, a story which Corey Haim denied while he was alive and that Haim's mother also says is untrue, and she hates Feldman for making the claim.", "Dolly Parton outclasses most people and most people outclass Barbara Walters.", "I love her!", "Barbara Walters, the daughter of a tabloid magnate and enemy to free press.", "PETA can go fuck themselves, Steve Irwin is a bloody saint. I would absolutely put him into the same category as Rogers and Parton, Along with David Attenborough for good measure.\n\nI'm sure PETA has calculated weather it's worth attacking David or not, and found that they'd alienate too many people for the cheap publicity to be worth it.", "Thanks for saving me the time to look this up", "WTF I’m a DP fan now", "Nah, she just didn't want to be the third mrs jones...\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKlLbAAQFeA", "She gave the people what they wanted. I Blame consumers.", "You're once again ignoring the facts I commented on that disproves your opinion. \n\nAnd to answer your question; it's telling of your personal animus and emotional stake in what should be a simple point of common knowledge/sense.", "Lil Nas X is a treasure and he can really sing", "Well he had the gator and baby incident which I agree was in poor judgment", "OP is saying this was part of the process of feminists learning about these issues. It makes sense that a majority of feminists saw Parton as a stereotype that damaged their movement. \n\nThey were wrong, of course. It just took time to figure that out.", "Thing is, it seems like what Barbara Walters is doing here is exactly what many watching the interview would want her to do-ask probing, if uncomfortable questions precisely with the goal of allowing Dolly Parton to show everyone what an eloquent, intelligent, self-confident and beautiful person she is.\n\n\"We\" tend to tear down beautiful things, and BW scrapes a little on purpose, to show just how enduring DP really is. BW knows (knew? I think she's still alive?) what she's doing and was pretty consistently an excellent personal interviewer/journalist, particularly of stars of this magnitude.", ">You're once again ignoring the facts I commented on that disproves your opinion.\n\nIt didn't disprove anything and I didn't post an opinion. You're arguing with yourself, bud. \n\n>And to answer your question; it's telling of your personal animus and emotional stake in what should be a simple point of common knowledge/sense.\n\nOr maybe it's telling of my ability to actually know who I'm talking to, and recognize somebody who's participating in the conversation in bad faith, like you're doing.\n\nBut sure, you can go with your own projections, if that makes you feel safer.", "I liked it.", "If Dolly is a hillbilly then being one is just fine.", "Thank you I was about to look that up.", "I think it's a dope remix, nothing special just a good solid house bop remix of a classic. And it's brand new lol and it makes me laugh that it's destructo", "Barbara Walters = Steve Harvey = Ellen Degeneres = Wendy Williams = Dr Phil = Dr Oz = James Corden\n\nSeems like these kinds of discussion shows attract a certain type of cunt.", "I admit that recently Dolly's music (mainly her standards) have become something of a guilty pleasure. I can't hear Jolene or Islands in the Stream (with Kenny R.) without it putting a smile on my face.", "> You're embellishing and you're confused about who Epstein is.\n\nNo. If that's what you think, it's pretty clear you don't know who he is.\n\n>You're the exact example I gave of how people have been conditioned to imaginary every person in the entertainment industry is part of some secret pedophile ring.\n\nNever made that claim, but sure, you just continue pretending that there aren't any pedophiles in hollywood. \n\nI say this not actually thinking that's what you believe, but it's literally what you did with my statement. You just took it to an extreme to pretend you have some high ground while denying the evidence that there is a large amount of pedophiles, confirmed with evidence, in hollywood.", "Show biz pro from childhood. Imagine having that much conviction and growing your brand on your own terms like that and absolutely crushing it over a lifetime.", "TIL - even better", "I think the idea was that Dolly acted and dressed the way she did out of choice rather than out of necessity (like women had to in the past).", "Dang, her hair filled up the screen. That is class.", "Barbara Walters is a low-key piece of shit. I hear nothing but awful stories about her, and yet I wouldn't be surprised if she's heralded as an icon of journalistic integrity when she dies.", "Baba Wawa should never have been taken seriously back then or now.", "In luxury", "Yeah, Barbara Walters has pretty much always been a piece of shit.", "[Here’s Me First and the Gimme Gimmes’.](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fBoTwOTKw0I)", "Tell em!", "When she interviewed Barbra Streisand one of the questions was: if you were a tree, what kind of tree would you be? \nReally? That's the best you could do?", "Views on feminism haven't always been so concrete. At the time of this interview there was great debate among feminists about where the movement should go next. This is often referred to as the [sex-wars](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminist_sex_wars).\n\nThere was an anti-pornography movement who said that the \"theme of pornography is male dominance and as a result it is intrinsically harmful to women and their well-being. Dworkin believed that pornography is not only damaging in its production but also in its consumption, since the viewer will mentally internalize pornography's misogynistic portrayal of women.\" Parton was mainstream but the idea was the same, she was perpetuating those male dominance views in society.\n\nWalters however wasn't pushing these views but rather was trying to show people that Parton acted and dressed this way out of choice rather than out of necessity and that maybe sexualized women could exist in society if it was their choice.", "Dolly is a bad ass", "Reddit has dolly on that same pedastool they once had ole Elon an Roe Jogan on. Hopefully she stays on the internet's good side", "Dolly Parton is an absolute gem. She's is the embodiment of class, not because of where she came from but just by who she is.", "One could drop the deuce on the anchor desk mid-broadcast and still outclass Barbera Walters.\n\nDolly is a classy lady but there is a reason Walters had to be teamed up with Hugh Downs for most of her career.", "Not sure why you're being downvoted. I'm a huge Dolly fan (the person, not so much her music), grew up an hour outside the Sevierville, Pigeon Forge, Gatlinburg area, and always heard rumors they are open. \n\nMaybe you're downvoted because swinger is a specific niche of \"open marriage\" and swinging was really never confirmed, as they may be more of the polyamory side of things. But I doubt that because much of reddit wouldn't k ow that either.", "Thank you. The acid people are spewing at Walters in this thread is ridiculous. Good interviewers aren’t supposed to look good. They are supposed to bring out the real personality of the person they are interviewing, which Walters is clearly VERY effective at without going too far.", "I’m gonna go listen to Dolly Parton", "I've had friends try and expose me to some of the classics. At best I'll hear something and say that I don't hate it, but I'd never choose to listen to it. I don't think ill of people who feel differently. It's simply just not something that I personally enjoy. I don't understand why people take it personally when I say that I'm not a fan of the genre. Everyone has media they like and media that doesn't interest them.", "Baba wawa😉.", "You're 110% of the way to being a good little Qanon cultist. You still don't know the difference between Epstein and Weinstein, but facts are not that important in your group.\n\nI'd ask you to post your evidence of this supposed large proportion of pedophiles, but we both know you're full of shit.", "I never tire of this masterclass in grace when faced with outrageous hostility", "Sounds like they’re swingers, especially in this interview where she was describing herself and him as being free. Coulda sworn she’s also come out and said both are but might be misremembering", "There are certain genres of music that I simply do not care for. That isn't to say that they are bad or that other people are wrong for enjoying them. For example, I'm also not a fan of death metal. I don't think less of you for being in a band that makes music that doesn't appeal to me. If anything I'm happy that you have found something you enjoy and are passionate about. I think it's a good thing that everyone has their own tastes. It would be really boring if we all liked the same things for the same reasons.", "Cart narcs! Beeooo beeooo beeooo", "Fuck barberber walteeers", "“Just because I’m blonde don’t think I’m dumb!”", "Projecting much? Who hurt you?", "> You're 110% of the way to being a good little Qanon cultist.\n\nNah, but thanks.\n\n>You still don't know the difference between Epstein and Weinstein\n\nI do. I spelled them out. I am taking the word of the people who participated in the events over you and I'm sorry that offends you.\n\n>but facts are not that important in your group.\n\nProjection is a terrible color on you.\n\n>I'd ask you to post your evidence of this supposed large proportion of pedophiles\n\nScroll up, click link to my comment.\n\n>but we both know you're full of shit.\n\nProjection is *still* a terrible color on you.", "The news took a year out of my life too.", "That's ignorant!", "> Not that internet points count for anything.\n\nI dunno, you're the only one bringing it up so far, getting butthurt over it.", "\"Show business is a joke\".", "You would think so, but a lot of people have been telling me that I'm wrong for saying that I don't like country music. There could be country songs that I would like if I heard them, but my experience so far has been that it's not something I enjoy. I think some people think that my personal distaste for the genre equates to the judgement of its fanbase. I don't look down on country fans, I simply don't agree with their personal tastes.", "Which is ironic, since I'm already doubled over in laughter by that time. I'd say she's playing the straight man for Norm, but no, she's really angry.", "Pull your head out of your ass you fucking idiot", "I'm going to take the pro-Barbara stance here and suggest that every question was phrased in that way SO Dolly could come across super classy. Barbara Walters was an all-time great interviewer. She knew exactly how it would come across.", "I probably couldn't tell Tenessee Whiskey from Scottish Rye. I rarely drink and don't know enough to have a strong opinion.", "Yep. 100%. These were two of the shrewdest women in showbusiness and this interview went exactly how both of them wanted it to go.", "That'd literally the last time I paid her any mind and lost all respect for her.", "I had a thought a while back that although I am not religious in an sense of the word, Dolly Parton would be the closest thing we have to an actual saint. The lady is very philanthropic and never advertises what she does. And she quite humble and down to earth.", "If you ever need to showcase the difference between confidence and arrogance, show them this.", "Anti flag doing a counter protest is pretty punk", "She could have written musicals. There is a clear storytelling and expressiveness in that song that is very stage-friendly.", "I read that in his voice. Curses!", "What about Keanu Reeves? Has anything negative ever come out about him?", "Jack black introduced me to the school of rock", "Amen to this Dolly is a living treasure that we will never see the likes of again. She does good for the world with her fortune. It pains me to think of the world without her.", "You Q cultists are DARVO addicts who project harder than IMAX. \n\nNotice that you failed to provide all this secret evidence that you and Corey Feldman are inexplicably withholding, presumable until rut after the \"Great Awakening\".", "She's is just a doll. The more I learn about her and watch her the more I like", "dolly has been a national treasure for decades", "Barbara Walters is a northeast, feminist, urban, liberal.\n\nDolly Parton, with her makeup, charm, folksy sensibility, putting family above competition, and having money, influence, and power on top of it, represented a huge threat to the values that Barbara Walters advocated and promoted.", "Obligatory fuck Barbara Walters for her disgusting treatment of Corey Feldman when he was trying to raise awareness of all the kid rape in Hollywood.", "She is a national treasure.", "Barbara walters has always been a sleazy disgusting leftist", "I think it's a little different. Hijab is seeing as representing authoritarian and patriarchical systems. It's something that a woman has to do to be part of that system.\n\nDolly, on the other hand, chose to accentuate her features that were thought to be attractive to men at the time to forward her own career.", "Those statues coming down in the south should be replaced with statues of Dolly.", "She’s not asking risky questions.\n\nShe tries to shit on people who are seen as outsiders and attempts to shield the powerful. \n\nShe’s that much of a lackey she went to bat for paedophiles simply because they were rich and powerful.", "Is Barbara Walters known for treating her guests with class?", "> You Q cultists are DARVO addicts who project harder than IMAX.\n\nAh yes, because you have no substance you resort to insults.\n\n>Notice that you failed to provide all this secret evidence that you and Corey Feldman are inexplicably withholding\n\nI literally talked about the evidence, but you want to resort to name calling and straw man arguments because you have no substance.\n\nLook, this has been funny but I get it. You're the kind of internet troll who thinks that they have to have the last word so that you \"won\" the argument. You're not here to have an honest discussion and it shows. No substance in 3 replies. So I'll bow out here so you can have that last word you so desperately need to \"win\". It will go unread.", "It became a film, TV show and, eventually: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9_to_5_(musical)", "My rural family almost all got Moderna (including me.) They jokingly call it the \"Trump vaccine\" but now I can tell them it's the \"Dolly vaccine.\" I think they'll get a kick out of that.", "Good evidence there, trolling Q cultist.", "The term is way overused, but she'd be in the running if we did assess it seriously.", "Ok, I haven't seen evidence that backs up the claim that children were raped, aside from testimony. That's the crux of it, obviously. \n\nI have heard some testimony against Epstein, Prince Andrew and Trump. But I'm not aware of anyone else. \n\nI'm not saying there isn't groundwork for the claim, or that I disbelieve those testimonies. But please excuse me for not leaping to conclusions on others. If there's testimonies or other evidence against others, please enlighten me", "Again, ignoring facts and deflecting with ad hominem.\n\nYour opinion that conservatives are the ones who are known for safe spaces. That is the opinion you are defending. Implicitly posting/writing it is not necessary.\n\nAnd yes, the facts that I described do disprove that. Although not even necessary considering the widely known common sense that leftists/woke people are the ones famous for 'safe spaces'.\n\nHow am I \"participating in the conversation in bad faith\"?\n\nYou're trying to accuse me of projecting, but it's nothing more than a vacuous buzz term accusation here devoid of any substance, which boils down to you saying \"nuh uh, you!\".\n\nAnd you're trying to belittle me with a need to 'feel safe', even though I'm engaging openly and frankly with you on a platform dominated overwhelmingly by leftists/woke people?\n\nThese are all facts that are plainly apparent, but I doubt you will take the time to do any introspective critical thinking here.", "barbara wawa... legend was she could suck the chrome off a bumper.", "I credit Dolly Parton with my daughters love of reading.", "Her Wikipedia says she was close friends with Roger Ailes.", "From the back of my mind I can only think of \"Jolene, Jolene\"", "The kids are doomed. Everything is so hyper that Mr. Rogers has become creepy.", "Yeah fuck you", "There is definitely many differences, but there are also similarities.\n\nWalters (and her audience) must have seen Dolly as a representation of one of the patriarchal female archetypes that Walters herself was expected to follow, but was actively rebelling against.\n\nThe interview hopefully opened the mind of her and her audience a bit.", "TIL Barbara Walters has always been an old, crabby cunt", "Oh yeah, absolutely. I commented on that elsewhere. Walters saw it as patriarchal control and Dolly saw it as a spoof to get what she wanted. Both powerful, successful, independent women in the end. Really shows what certain flavors of feminism get wrong, IMO.", "based on the channel 5 video of a rap concert, it's looking a lot like the people who are phasing out sexism, are not the same people who are into rap (at least into rap enough to go to concerts).\n\nso it's not that very many people are being hypocritical, it's just different people", "He's so vain!", "Barbra Walters is horrible. She is a terrible rude cruel interviewer. I look back on her interviews with Corey Feldman and Brittney spears and it’s shocking. And people still consider her to be this wonderful journalist but to me she’s no more than a bully.", "\"How dare he overshadow me with my technique that I didn't actually invent, but is actually centuries old.\"", "Didn’t say I hated it, just not something I go out of my way to hear. That said, any time I do hear her name it’s to talk about something awesome she’s done or said. She just seems kinda great and I never hear a negative thing about her was the only point.", "A lot of media personalities are, to be quite frank. Many of them grew up wealthy and well-connected. That was how they got their jobs in the first place!\n\n\n\nThey're surrounded by people who do shitty things for money and power and they assume that it's natural and that everyone is like that.\n\n\n\nI hate Trump but his attacks on the media found a wide audience for a reason. Many of them are completely out of touch with normal people and their values.", "My wife has worked as a on air news personality for over 20 years. Early in her career she worked on the 20/20 show with BW and stated that she was the most evil and vile person she has worked with to this day.", "that on the right is what you're allowed to call a blunt cunt.", "I feel like I used to think Barbara Walters was a good journalist. Obviously she's garbage town now but it looks like she was garbage then too. What the hell was I thinking?", "There are many problems inherent in measuring “intelligence”. Firstly, nobody can agree on what “intelligence” is. Another issue is that it’s nigh-impossible to create a test that is divorced from any sort of cultural bias. There’s much more to be said and in much greater detail. If you’re really interested in the subject, this is a great thing to listen to:\n\nhttps://youtu.be/UBc7qBS1Ujo", "What!?", "Barbara walters is gross, she asks the rudest questions. I don’t know why she was ever given a microphone.", "For those that are at work and don't have audio can someone paraphrase please?", "Public response would be: I'm not saying that what you did was right, all I'm going to say is that I understand.", "[Oh no!](https://preview.redd.it/35lqnh5xrfb51.png?auto=webp&s=6b79d37240ab613a7d45618e5aedb1667f3d0263)", "[Fuck steve harvey](https://youtu.be/8pDzO-WoHV8)", "Keep blaming the PC police lmao it makes you look really cool", "She’s still in her prime! Confident, kind, humble - it gives her a glow.", "“Given all that is going on in the world, I don’t think putting me on a pedestal is appropriate at this time,” February 2020", "Having spent a bit of time on set with her, she truly was quite gracious and humble. After the shoot she insisted we’d been behind the lens enough and to take a picture with her. It’s always refreshing to have a talent/subject care about the crew.", "A local library/individual/organization has to sponsor the foundation in a given area. I'm not positive what it consists of but there is a link on the Imagination Library page to start a program in your area! Go check it out to see how to get it started in your area, That's what Dolly would do!", "Good riddance.", "To be fair, if the devil came to tempt me it would be him with an Astra Militarum Mordian Iron Guard battlebox.\n\nMy hypothetical wife would understand.", "Whoa whoa whoa whoa*", "Otherwise she would NEVER ask this question that she doesn’t seem to have a problem asking anyway", "Talk about money.", "To me she's not rude, she's direct.\n\nBesides, I don't see what the government or free speech has to do with any of what is going on in this interview", "On the other hand noone cares to explain what problem they have with my opinion. You included.\n\nSo tell me, what does really bother you in this interview? The subject (why did Dolly Parton make her persona this way) or the form (the choice of direct question without trying to be politically correct)?", "Everyone's dream is to do what they want.\n\nFor some people that involves work.\n\nFor others it involves something else.", "Hey! I like your opinions posted as facts. You must be really good at life without mums help.", "Then you’re blind.", "Dolly parton is a smelly hoe", "Dolly is truly the heart and soul of the region I live in. She embodies \"Southern charm, Southern hospitality\" and her philanthropy has changed the lives of anyone in the US who has a child (a free book every month). \n\nAlso, she is so young here and I have NEVER noticed this before, but Paris Hilton resembles Dolly so much in this video when they close up on her face!\n\nShe is WAY too good for politics, but just in case there ever were a chance DOLLY4PREZ!", "I've never seen Dolly Parton interview before and I think she is amazing. So reserved and lovely girl. Barbara try to insult her, but she answer so correctly, sincerely, absolutely amazing.", "Disgusting.", "O\nK", "Daily reminder that Dolly Parton outclasses everyone", "Similarly Howard Stern told Freddie Prinze Jr that Prinze would be divorced from Sarah Michelle Gellar within ten years. Robin concurred and joked they'd only speak between lawyers. Prinze responded with humility that he didn't know everything about marriage but was aware that in ten years both he and Gellar would be different people \n\nStern has been divorced and Robin had a long term boyfriend whom she never married and separated from. Prinze is still married and by all accounts still happy. \n\nIt's definitely projecting.", "Mom is dead and I thank every day the help I get from Heavens.", "Barbara Walters is a yammering bitch.", "Maybe not the greatest thing, in retrospect, given Joss Whedon turned out to be a creep.\n\nAdmittedly, a talented creep, although prone to self-indulgence IMO.", "Man...the more I watch Barbara Walters the less I like her. I remember thinking she was awesome when I was a kid. But wow...she is not.", "Everything is transactional to such people, and I find it myself pitying such a mindset. To never do something or say something to help others, but only when it directly benefits you in some way, is such a miserable and pathetic way of life. \n\nTo never feel true joy from selflessly helping others, such is a torment those of that mindset endure.", "I try to not judge art by the character of the artist. Buffy was a really great show.", "Walters is a count and is in Epstein's black book.\n\nShe also seemed really concerned with the \"reputation\" of Hollywood when that one Cory's was sharing his concern over the sexual abuse he was put through as a child.\n\nI see you Barb you fucking lowlife pedo enabling at best.", "Projecting much", "[\"Nobody refuses Dave Grohl!\"](https://youtu.be/z-ckVc0rsaE?t=62)", "I’d rather work at all center than raise kids full time alone and I’d rather kill myself than work at a call center.", "It isn’t when all you do is ask mommy to make your tendies for you", "Barbara walters is a fuckin bitch", "Barbara Walters is not a good person but in this case it's basically a stage production. \n\nShe was the scripted villain to let Dolly Parton say what she wants to say. To respond publicly to the questions she hears whispered around her.", "I remember when Dollywood was \"Silver Dollar City\". It was more about learning than an amusement park.\n\nI was a child at a time, and it was part of an annual trip my family would take to Pigeon Forge, TN. It was the first time I was exposed to a variety of trades as performed prior to modernization and became fascinated. I seriously believe this park was a pioneer to the current artisan trade that I see taking place. It also has a raptor rehabilitation center (run by American Eagle Foundation) that care for injured birds of prey and educate the public. \n\nThanks to Dolly Parton's investment \"Silver Dollar City\" lives on as \"Dollywood,\" continues to be a source of employment for Pigeon Forge, and it's so much larger and provides all forms of family entertainment. \n\nI continued the family tradition (though not as often) with my daughter when she was young.", "I will always remember the time Dolly said...\"It takes a lot of money to look this cheap.\" She is hilarious and just a sweetheart who hasn't an arrogant or hateful bone in her body.", "Our kids are signed up for this. Every book has been a hit with the kids.", "Right on the money. These people are awful, but in the end, you pity them because they will never be happy.", "Incredibly creepy question", "Hard Candy Christmas is my jam", "Hey, I like a fair amount of his stuff. Ironically, I'd probably put Buffy on the lower-tier of his stuff that I've seen.\n\nFirefly, Serenity, Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog, Dollhouse, Cabin in the Woods, and his run on Astonishing X-Men - all better, IMO, than Buffy or Angel.", "The autotune mixed with the flatness of his voice and the fake accent just didnt do it for me. It didn't come across as sadness or desperation to me, just more like a karaoke version. I like some of his other stuff just not this.", "hhhhhWhot?", "Yes Dolly Parson is famously bad at business 🙄", "That's very misleading. \nHe was actually telling parents to \"be careful what you wish for\". \nThat does make it sound like the whole industry is bad.", "Spot on!", "I think younger people who are used to the softball fluff of today find hard hitting journalism offensive.", "Not really. Doing at those things properly takes way more time than what anyone would be about to do before or after work. Unless you either work short shifts or don't sleep. It's clear that their idea of home making is not up to the standards the stay at home is talking about if they think they can just bang those chores out in an hour or two after work.", "Huh? I was mocking Walters.", "Barbara Walters has no class or tact and I’ve always despised her as an interviewer. Haughty harpy of a woman.", "Barbara Walters has always been a no talent idiot.", "Haha, I appreciate the info man bit I was just joking about your typo, you forgot the L!", "that woman is class , period. Barbra clearly, has none.", "I'd actually like to see the numbers on that. Not challenging you, just saying I find it interesting. I know she's written a ton of popular songs, but she's also had some massive hits as a performer.", "Oh, no, I *believe* you. I'm just saying that your premise that accomplishments built on other accomplishments aren't really accomplishments is flawed because literally all of human achievement is built on what came before.", "And Dolly is too nice to throw that back in her face.", "Did something happen for this to be posted again?", "[it's not gay if it's a three-way](https://youtu.be/p9riv8_tfy4)", "“He’s lying and exaggerating about the vastness of the phenomenon.” Is that really your stance after Epstein and Weinstein? All that shit with Nickelodeon?", "I always like to point out how she was super supportive of Whitney Houston for doing a cover of \"I will always love you\". She called Whitney personally to tell her too. Dolly is literally an angel on Earth we are so lucky to have her \n\nhttps://youtu.be/2o5wccZgsy4", "Allow me to rewrite your comment without sounding like an ass:\n\nNo because for many years women had little choice other than to be a housewife, so it probably often was more of a “this is the choice I have” than a “this is my dream” thing.", "She has the same grace that Princess Diana showed in interviews, even when the questions got invasive.", "Dolly out classes everyone.", "I didn’t realize until this very moment that I am completely in love with Dolly Parton", "I challenge you to listen to “Jolene.” Absolute classic and a great fucking tune. You might at least like ONE of her tunes.", "Dolly is a saint. She's never come across as anything other than sincere and she sends my kids books every month. I'm not religious at all but God bless her heart, darlin'", "9 to 5 is catchy AF, not being a big fan of her musical works as a whole doesn't mean I don't find some of her music enjoyable lol. That said- I don't believe I've ever heard Jolene or at least didn't know what I was hearing when I did so I'll give that a listen today.", "Dolly is good people", "If you look up the name dolly then a year afterwards like Dolly 1988, then Dolly 1990, etc you can view images to see her through the years, all except Dolly 1996 and Dolly 1997 … those are about the cloned sheep.", "Another great example of not the hardest job ever", "What a class act. Dolly Parton is a national treasure.", "Jolene wasn't a fan of her.", "Seems like the only people who hated Mr. Rogers were bigots and I am unfortunately certain that there are bigots with nasty things to say about Dolly Parton... So let's just say they don't count.", "What a rude person. Who put and kept her on TV?\n\nThere’s nothing to be gained or learned by these questions.", "Someone else posted them. Close to 1000 that she performed, something like 5000 she's written.", "Except you're wrong. This wasn't just building a whole vaccine on the foundation of science in general. It's that the the SARS-CoV1 vaccine built a decade ago turned out to be a rather perfect and nearly finished one for SARS-CoV2.", "I think I misunderstood what you were trying to say, my bad", "what is the hardest job ever", "More like rude questions", "I don't know if Barbara Walters is a good person or not, but every time she comes up everyone on Reddit jump all over each other at the opportunity to trot out this one tired ass example. It's not a particularly good look for her, but I'm tired of this constant groupthink that a person is only as good as the worst thing they have done. She's had 50 years in the industry and if she is as bad as everyone assumes there would be mountains of examples like this. But all you ever hear is \"Barbara Walters sucks because she once said an inappropriate thing to Corey Feldman\".", "My favorite part of this is how classy Dolly Looks but Barbara is like, “a woman with big fake boobs who speaks her mind? GASP!”", "I don't understand the distinction.", "Well I didn't say much, and you're probably right anyway.", "I agree, though not sure I’d say most people are miserable. Maybe unaware and unhappy at certain times, but not usually malicious unless they feel threatened.", "Read this in their voices. 😂", "an observation: A few years ago a segment on John Oliver’s show detailed Dolly Parton’s “Dixie Stampede”. A dinner entertainment show like medieval times. It featured union and confederate soldiers in a “friendly rivalry” whilst guests ate comfort food. I think the show has since died or been rebranded. \n\nI noticed after that segment there’s been a shit ton of good press about Dolly everywhere. She’s probably a wonderful person. But it remains her name was on a dinnertainment show that whitewashed American history and boiled down a conflict over human slavery into a friendly rivalry between the north and south…", "More like a whole community to downvote your dumb ass.", "I mean Keanu is a damn saint in his personal life. But he has a lot of haters for his acting. It's so hard to compare him, I mean he has donated most of his wealth to cancer research and children's hospital and such.i feel like the reason I don't mention him is he isn't actively out there helping people be as wholesome as he is.", "Thank you for introducing me to this artist.", "It's what uneducated people tell themselves to feel smart.", "What an absolute fucking treasure of a human", "WE DON'T DESERVE DOLLY.", "I went back into your post history to find your original comment and follow the thread from there...\n\nWoo boy, you've been busy this morning! I'm just gonna take your word on it, haha.", "Your kind of people? Oh no she didn’t!", "I do the work of five men, but that's only because I'm a woman. You can use the context and parent links to walk up branch in a thread.", "I take comfort in the fact that I'm bringing yall all together. Changing the world, one inconsequential Reddit outrage at a time.\n\nEnjoy your day!", "Feldman has refused to give names for years now and holds the promise of delivering information ransom. He can fuck off too. \n\nHim refusing to give names for so long has only concealed and protected the perpetrators, and that *does* make the whole industry look bad. It changes how every single person is trusted because it's been left open-ended as \"it could be anyone\". But he doesn't care about that. Once he gives names, he has nothing to really contribute. He wants to keep cashing checks.\n\nIt's wacky that people still think it's understandable to withhold information because they don't want to be blacklisted, since nowadays that's been proven false. And the fact that anyone would worry about remaining part of an industry full of pedos (who you claim to know personally) is equally insane.", "Haha, sorry the \"boy\" in that last comment was meant to be part of the exclamation, sort of like \"goodness\" in \"Oh, goodness!\" I should be more mindful of using gender neutral terms even in exclamations. \n\nAnyhow, for some reason on the app I use I can't just zip up to your original comment and then see all other comments below it. I only see our conversation, which doesn't do me much good when I'm looking for other replies to you. I usually just find the parent comment in a user's post history, but then I got distracted by your absolutely godly comment output.", "Yeah that's probably better. Although I do know a good number of people who just want to settle down and have a nice life/family. Not everyone is career driven in that way.", "this. people don’t realize that this is what people were saying already. if you look at some interviews these days of artists, often artists before the interview will ask to have specific questions asked that they get a lot or know people want to know so they can answer with the response they have prepared to come off as the person they want to seem to be. it’s just good PR.", "She wrote Jolene and I Will Always Love You in the same day. Incredible.", "RIP Dolly. You'll be missed.", "She had so much class. RIP to Dolly.", "I'm sure you wish you could act like this in person. But you're just too inadequate to ever be in a real situation.", "She's 92 now and has dementia. She 'died out' well before social media.", "Tom Segura is a comedian that always has people posting on Garth Brooks social media accounts. He thinks Garth Brooks is a closet murderer lol", "Omg I loved that podcast and the interviews they had with her. She is a very smart woman.", "They have taken it back. I saw a woman this weekend wearing a \"PillBilly\" shirt. Had to explain to my wife what a Pillbilly was.", "For everyone ragging on Barbara Walters, she's doing the same thing Dolly is - selling people what they want. Barbara was popular because she was a bitch on tv. My step dad was a soundman for ABC news and worked with her around this time and said she was a good person.", "Outclassing Barbara Walters ain't a long hill to climb.", "*whoosh* \n\nAh well, pubic radio it is!", "https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UbxUSsFXYo4\n\nYou can't roll me you haven't heard this absolutely fantastic song.", "She only retired from public life in 2016 and social media was a thing for 20 years prior, though obviously far from the giant industry it is today. \nShe's not as decrepit as you're thinking.", "Dolly Parton is a National Treasure.", "Have you ever heard the 33rpm version of Jolene? I love it so much.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/CMrfM711vXI", "lindo cabello", "I can't sit in my car for 2 hours alone just fucking off without my wife being like I'm lonely!", "To be clear, OP is counting 44 from 1977.\n\nThey have been married for 55 years now!", "Doh! I knew that, just didn't place it. Love Tom and Christina and I think YMH is the best podcast out there.", "I'm a grown ass man! How do you have me up here tearing up on a Dolly Parton song?", "That comment may have been my pinnacle for both so...", "Well, at least one that I know of is popular outside of the country music genre.", "This was actually Sir Christopher Lee (Count Dooku, Saruman)", "She got the name from a little girl, but the song was inspired by a bank teller. Her husband was hanging around their bank too much (she jokes they didn't have enough money at the time for him to have a valid excuse)", "She was pissed. Didn't appreciate Clinton being called a murderer on the show", "While I agree that measures of intelligence are bound by cultural and logistical limitations which undermine validity across all demographics, I don’t think that the construct of intelligence itself is BS.\n\nThe intelligence quotient may be one (poor or limited) way of measuring this construct, but it is measuring something. I guess I find it important to identify and categorize characteristics that contribute to “intelligence”:\n\nMemory recall\nVisual-Spatial ability\nInformation Processing\nCreativity\nEtc…\n\nI see Empathy and reflection as tangible skills that can be honed and practices. Emotional intelligence is supposedly the construct that determines a person’s ability to do stuff with feelings experienced by themselves and others.\n\nI know this is a long winded response, but I think back to a time where I worked with an incarcerated juvenile with “low intelligence.” I wondered if the punishment he faced for his crime should take into consideration his (relatively lower) cognitive functioning. I also wondered if any consideration for modification of punishment should take place if his cognitive deficits were a result of illicit drug use.\n\nI asked myself these questions because I think the meting of justice should account for factors like “intelligence.” I also asked myself this because people voluntarily do things which negatively impact their “intelligence” or cognition.\n\nIdk. Anyway, saying intelligence is BS kind of undermines the purpose of those questions altogether. Intelligence Quotient and related measures however do deserve scrutiny in application, as you seem to suggest.\n\nRamble over.", "Wrong. Walters is asking leading questions on purpose to allow Parton to dispel certain stereotypes. \n\n\nShe's not as stupid as you think.", "I think WBC is kind of a freebie. They'll find a reason to hate someone just because everyone else likes them. I feel bad for all the kids growing up in that environment.", "Off the top of my head, military, oil rig worker, ER nurse. All harder than chasing around a toddler until they go to school.", "Wow, you're so funny mocking of people with dementia/alzheimers! You sure got her!", "Don’t forget that I also mocked her speech impediment.", "Eh I’d somewhat agree. The biggest thing with child rearing is that there’s no break and you’re always on call. So yeah day to day duties are definitely skewed, but it starts to wear on you heavily.\n\nThere’s no 6 on 6 off or 12/16hr shifts, it’s 24/7 all the time for the first few years and that’ll fuck with anyone, not because of the difficulty necessarily, but because you can’t do anything else and it’s non stop. Doesn’t matter how terrible or tired you’re feeling, kid still needs you just the same.", "Dan rather is actually pretty solid. \nHis interview with Geddy Lee is great!", "She also funds a charity that provides books to kids from birth through age 5.\n\nhttps://imaginationlibrary.com/\n\nShe spends billions making sure young kids can have a level of access to books that she didn't have as a kid.", "And....my point stands. That's the way of the world. Like it or not.", "She was projecting", "I love Michael Jackson and fervently believe he is innocent of what he was accused of with the pedo stuff but THAT was fucking retarded, why the fuck did he do that...", "What a classy lady.", "[rape of 2 coreys](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Truth:_The_Rape_of_2_Coreys#Release)\n\nI guess it's \"available\" to watch on his [website](https://www.mytruthdoc.com/) behind a paywall that is apparently full of **\"bugs\"**\n\n I can't find a stream of it anywhere. I think it's all bullshit and Feldman is insane.", "Very much so. They demonstrated in front of the U.S. Supreme Court during the abortion arguments in decent numbers, and had quite a few fans in the audience.", "She also pumped money into the Moderna vaccine from the very start. \n\nI may or may not have ugly lockdown cried watching [When Life is Good Again](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEUYlo6OoDY) on several occasions.", "Keep those jeans tight", "Baba Wawa has always been such a bitch.", "So did I. Before she did.", "I love seeing these never-before-seen nuanced takes on reddit. Really keeps me clicking on the same stuff.", "Let's replace confederate statues with Dolly statues!", "The guy who hosted the podcast has another great one called Radiolab. It is my favorite form of media/journalism that I have found.", "Barbara Walters has always been a bitch. Member when she told Corey Feldman that those people who molested him and the other Corey could lose their jobs over such allegations? Fucking cow.", "When I was younger I wanted to sleep with Dolly Parton because... well, boobs.\n\nNow I want to straight up marry Dolly Parton because she is the perfect example of a wonderful person.\n\n*^still ^also ^boobs*", "Neither could I, they were all rude! But Dolly connected herself as the class act she is, then and now.", "\"This husband of yours\" reminded me of the Snow Plow Show.\n\n\"Would you tell that wife of yours in the background to shut the fuck up?\"", "TIL that Dolly Parton wore wigs.", "I have never, ever forgotten that.", "Thank you kindly.", "I completely lost respect for Whitney Houston when she said that song was nothing before she sang it.\n\n...and true to the form of this entire thread, when I went looking for a link for Whitney's comments (they really did happen! although as I recall she quickly walked them back after an uproar), all I could find was article after article about how Dolly invested the royalties from Whitney's version ($10M+) in a Black neighborhood that needed some help, and articles wherein Dolly admired Whitney's performance and was heartbroken when Whitney died.", "I never heard that comment by Whitney and don't really know enough about her to come to a conclusion, but what you wrote about Dolly's actions makes perfect sense. I had never heard that either, but am not at all surprised.", "Yes and it was my fault that I did that.\n\nThanks for reminding me.", "Fox news has also entered the chat. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/fox-fred-rogers-evil/", "My favorite thing Dolly has said about her looks: \"It costs a lot of money to look this cheap.\"", "Right. She “disagreed” with feminism and spoke out about it without knowing what she was talking about. That’s unforgivable as a person with as much power.", "It's such a stupid take to think these are \"rude questions\". Barbara is asking questions to encourage Parton to explain her views to people who might disagree with her. That doesn't mean Walters holds those views herself, and Parton doesn't seem offended at all.", "Barbara is a shit person and deserved to rot out her final years with dementia. Karma", "Dolly Parton is a god damn national treasure.", "I'm sure. I'm going to look them up solely because of the respect that I have for her. She gave money to get one of the vaccines produced ffs, well the vast majority of people from where she's from are anti" ]
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Dolly Parton outclasses Barbara Walters' rude question (1977)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJkfRoexFrA
/r/videos/comments/r9ot31/rip_bob_you_inspired_many/
[ "literally who?", "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Dole", "\"Bob Dole don't need this.\"", "Bob Dole inspired me to become a communist.", "He was still alive???" ]
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RIP Bob. You inspired many.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgxwOZy6zF8
/r/videos/comments/r9ph9x/strangely_fascinating_video_where_a_wristwatch_is/
[ "First time watching watch repairs. Didn’t know I was that type to see the whole video. Awesome!", "Very cool!", "[Here's](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rL0_vOw6eCc) a great video explaining the intricate pieces that make up a wristwatch.", "Great video" ]
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Strangely fascinating video where a wristwatch is brought back to life. There is a whole Youtube channel of similar videos.
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/r9pusq/deleted_by_user/
/r/videos/comments/r9pusq/deleted_by_user/
[ "Interesting and frustrating story that is still ongoing. Ian actually used his NY Times email to solicit these artists through 2020-2021. After the release of this video, the NY Times has updated their website to say that Ian Urbina left the NY Times in 2019 (they're trying to wash their hands of this scam).", "Sick that you cannot even go against him since all the artists have signed this bullsh*** contract!", "It's so frustrating", "Did he get control of all their songs?", "Yes", "How would he get all the songs they ever made?", "No just the ones from the project. But thousands of songs were made for the project" ]
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[deleted by user]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMj_B5Zfjdg
/r/videos/comments/r9pxgj/smooth_criminal_but_all_notes_are_c/
[ "Very unnerving along with that picture lol but I can't say it's a bad song, I feel like you could add heavy guitars and double bass drum work you'd have a banger", "Just because something can be done does not mean it should be done...😟", "This doesnt sparkle with me.", "I C what you did there.", "I'm thoroughly whelmed by this; not underwhelmed or overwhelmed" ]
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Smooth Criminal but all notes are C
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/r9qfk3/deleted_by_user/
/r/videos/comments/r9qfk3/deleted_by_user/
[ "/r/NatureIsMetal", "Damm nature, you scary", "Damn, nature is brutal", "absolutely catastrophic. ABSOLUTE CARNAGE" ]
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[deleted by user]
https://youtu.be/ktVSavCov9Y
/r/videos/comments/r9reqm/why_we_cook_food_in_oil/
[ "For a ticket to Flavortown!", "Good video.", "I remember eating these, concentrated bile vomit flavour things. Never again.", "Some people may just be 'wired' (for want of a better word) to interpret the taste of sprouts as unpleasant but honestly I think in a lot of cases people who hate them feel that way because their experience is with way overcooked ones, they really release a prominent bitter sulfuric taste when people boil them halfway to mush.\n\nIf you tried them baked you might find them quite pleasant, just cut them in half and toss them in some olive oil and sprinkle some salt on them. I bake them in a hot oven until they start to just get burned on the outside and can't get enough of the things.", "Only in American could a cunt who can't use a fork become a major cooking star on YouTube.", "Username checks out, yeah i had to eat them as a child circa 1980/90, totally vile so never again.", "Brussels sprouts? If you had one cooked right, you’d change your tune. They can be bite sized warm crunchy savory nuggets of deliciousness if treated right!", "Found them a bit much and I looove all kinds of vegetables. Figured out if I boil them plenty they get better. Love them for soup now." ]
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Why we cook food in oil
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQVv44SlUXM
/r/videos/comments/r9rnbd/my_favorite_family_guy_cutaway_drive_by_arguments/
[ "*I disagree!!!*", "Of course up north instead you just lean out of the car and yell “BUS WANKERS!” but the principle is the same.", "Is it possible these drivers are the first documented Brexiters on US TV? When did this air, late 90's - they're against the United European Commonwealth - AKA, the EU. \n\nAlso, nice to see good Family Guy on there.", "I'm old enough to remember a much earlier discourse...\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvYuoWyk8iU", "Funnily enough, Seth used this joke in a student film back in 1995, so it's one of his oldest gags.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/7H1HYYKplBE?t=188", "For me, it was cutting in line in front of Italians. https://youtu.be/OZ94n9RTXhk", "Family Guy was SO different in the early seasons.\n\nI think I preferred the show then, before it was cancelled and brought back.", "No idea why but \"navigate yourself with your feet and stand the with your shirt\" is what got me.", "How is this remotely funny", "Jesus, he's only 22 here. \n\nOther scenes copied over into Family Guy:\n\nThe scene at 1:05 is in [S1E1.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRWE6Wn4eXU)\n\nThe scene at 4:06 [is in S1E1.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlcZ2zXvLgM)\n\nThe scene at 4:50 is in [S1E7.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-N4BmABoSQ)\n\nThe scene at 7:30 is in [S1E1.](https://youtu.be/OqeYJY3ZGY4?t=175)\n\nThe scene at 8:15 is in [S1E1.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zVffddVp54&t=159s)", "Because it's silly, but mostly because people laugh when they see it.", "😂😂😂", "Euroscepticism has always existed in some form or another in UK politics, particularly among conservatives.", "Reminds me of when I went to a gig with a couple of mates, and we couldn’t find the entrance to the venue. We found some side door and asked them where the main entrance was. The guy said something to us like “walk around the block until you find a queue with a door at the end of it, I’ve reserved you couple of spaces at the back.”", "Why are we still talking about Family Guy? First ep aired 31 January 1999. You know what else appeared then? The first Blackberry phone... wtf is that? Exactly.", "Hillarious. I came in my pants laughing. Peak humor" ]
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My favorite Family Guy Cutaway: Drive by Arguments
https://youtu.be/CejdfvUYBKQ
/r/videos/comments/r9s98z/big_ass_carrots/
[ "Big Ass-Carrots?", "Serving suggestion", "Big carrots-ass?" ]
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Big Ass Carrots
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqSJhrRY-Pc&ab_channel=bigclivedotcom
/r/videos/comments/r9sef5/the_series_of_shockwaves_from_this_explosion_in_a/
[ "Where is this at? We’re they blasting in front of the cutter head?", "MAWP! MAWP!", "Doctor Rock would be amused \n\n/r/rocknocker" ]
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The series of shockwaves from this explosion in a tunnel
https://youtu.be/7V-XIcOsFr8
/r/videos/comments/r9sv6g/you_wouldnt_screenshot_an_nft/
[ "Yeah I would. And also movies. ;)", "This is a parody of the \"You wouldn't steal a car\" ads back in the early 2000's that claimed that downloading a movie or game off the internet was as bad as stealing, and the fact that the \"digital ownership certificate\" of an NFT literally just contains a fucking web link to the image itself, which is hosted on whatever you want and has 0 guarantee of uptime or ownership of that upload URL so the entire concept of an NFT is stupid since you could make an NFT of the same image or a slightly modified version of the same image very trivially\n\nScreenshotting an NFT is not actually illegal. In the original ad, the law relevant would be the DMCA but that obviously does not apply to NFT's", "If I could download a Lambo, I'd have a different colour for each day of the week!", "Wait. This is half in and out of a time machine.\n\nThey're video stores that aren't porn stores? They're are glass TV's worth stealing? They're are pirates that use that old version of Windows? They're are pirates that use CRT monitors?", "All of this was stuff relevant since this is a real anti-piracy ad from the early 2000's. The piracy they're talking about is like limewire, kazaa, napster, etc. era piracy at like 10 bytes per second, not modern day stuff like IPTV or torrenting, well before online video was a thing. \n\nAlso CRT monitors and glass TVs are valuable again lol since good CRT's are valued by retro enthusiasts and Smash Meelee players for some reason", "https://youtu.be/ALZZx1xmAzg", "Consumer stealing from a corporation, bad. Corporation stealing from a consumer, good.", "Woah woah woah, the background music for this ad was stolen don’t forget!", "yep\n\nI think that ironically makes the ad better", "What's an NFT?\n\n​\n\n\\#Kidding", "Nah but okay", "I get the old school meme joke, but that's not how NFT work.", "I wouldn't screenshot an NFT because I have yet to see one that I'd ever like to look at a second time.", "Quick, make the screenshot of the screenshot in this video into an NFT, then sell it and screenshot to steal it. Then print out a screenshot of this comment alongside the screenshot of the NFT you stole and sell it on eBay.\n\nNow this is Art.", "That's the point, it doesn't make sense. \n\nThat's not how this meme works either. The old meme is joking around that if you wouldn't copy A (the car... which you couldn't) so why would you copy B (which you could)? \n\nIn this use, both a and b can't be copied. The format doesn't work, unless you don't understand how NFTs work and you think you can. \n\nSo using this meme format makes OP look like he is clueless about how NFTs work and how the original meme worked.", "I suppose I dont understand how NFT's work. Lets say I buy one. What can I do with it that I couldnt do before? (Besides sell it)", "Some art in museums is owned by private individuals, but on display for everyone. It's like that.", "really?", "NFTs are just irrevocable receipts/licences...", "It gives you bragging rights. That's literally it.", "> at like 10 bytes per second\n\nCome on now. My 56k modem on dial up could get 4KB/s.\n\nI remember when my friend got a cable modem that I'd be happy if I could just get 10KB/s!", "And not always even licenses, or right to IP at all. Just a record that you \"own\" something that a million other people can also have on their hard drive.", "We had ownership and copyright laws around digital IP already. What is it about a picture of a Monkey being an NFT that makes it so valuable, whereas before nobody would have paid a cent to \"own\" it before?\n\nInteresting to see that some people think that \"there are practical uses for blockchain technology\" necessarily means that \"people are always wrong when they say that cryptocurrencies and NFT are scammy\".", "I totally would steal an NFT if it was worth stealing. The problem is, they are all FUCKING TRASH!", "I screenshot this this video so your move bitchain", "While NFTs are dumb, the technology for a digital receipt/digital trail isn’t. Thats where it’ll be useful.\n\nIt makes me think of all the silly face filters people have fun with, while the company uses and studies that info for facial recognition.", "[Really.](https://www.wired.co.uk/article/dutch-rights-group-fined-for-not-paying-royalties)", "I remember when the standard advice was that if you don't want your content stolen and reposted then don't post it on the internet in the first place" ]
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You wouldn’t screenshot an NFT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALZZx1xmAzg
/r/videos/comments/r9trkz/the_it_crowd_piracy_warning_hillarious/
[ "In a similar vein:\n\nhttps://youtu.be/pkO2_LdgSas", ">\"The IT Crowd, Out now on DVD\"\n\nlol", "Watch it, but just don’t steal it.", "blocked in the USA by \"LDS\"\n\nSurely that's not the mormons but... I dunno.", "Thanks /u/Electric_Jeebus99 for letting us know it's \"Hillarious\"!", ">Hillarious\n\nTypo on a phone, but thanks *sincerely* for the input.", "It just seems like something like \"Funny\" at the end is a bit click-baity, don't you think?", "0118 999 881 999 119 7253", "I’m so intrigued?", "Yeah, I thought about posting that one too. \"I've had a bit of a tumble\".", "I beg to differ, ‘tis quite serious.", "Not really. Does what it says on the box as far as I'm concerned.", "I'm in Australia and it's blocked here too.", "I want to say I remember something like LDS being a production company in the UK in the 90s-00s, but I can't find anything on it.\n\nAny search using LDS is just full of Mormon shite.", "Ah how strange. It was from UK show called Brass Eye and a pastiche of the COPS type show, with the host saying some people think criminals deserve punishment, but he dispenses…gunishment. Going to assume it was LDS production company rather than Mormons!", "Well, thats easy to remember." ]
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The IT Crowd: Piracy warning - Hillarious
https://youtu.be/MhLY0JqXP-s
/r/videos/comments/r9v5mw/full_frank_schaeffer_interview_on_the_birth_of/
[ "I wonder what woke him up because we need to put that shit in the water supply.", "I don't think anything woke him up per say. I think their message got warped onto something else and he was fine with it when he was young because of the popularity and the money. Bit then later realized the gravity of what they started and helped and is not regretting it and helped cement a movement he never believed in.", "Yeah, but money and fame can corrupt. I would think there had to be a moment that changed him. I guess maybe he saw the message wasn’t anything but to get people elected, and that the people he was getting elected didn’t really believe the message. I’ll look into this guy more and find out.\n\nWhat’s interesting now is the possibility is real that Roe v. Wade could be overturned with a conservative SCOTUS for a long time, as Dems don’t seem hip on expanding the court.\n\nR v. W has been a tent pole issue for the GOP. If overturned, it’s catastrophic for the rights of women, but it also an issue that somewhat leaves the table. I also think the idea of being “fiscally conservative” might be gone as well. It certainly was under Trump. I think more people now understand that means to “protect the rich.” Tax breaks are not really fiscally conservative.", "This person, for me, is preaching to the choir. I understand, and agree with what he is saying, but I don't think it will convince someone on the other side.", "I still don't understand why people want to interfere with some strangers life. Like if somebody else does or does not have a kid it has zero impact on you.", "It's either because they are cunts or because they think you are killing a human being, it's probably not that they are against personal choice in all scenarios.\n\nI think a lot of time is wasted with people being mystified with others' actions without the obvious self critique 'well if I wouldn't do that because of what I believe, perhaps they don't believe that'.\n\nI fully accept that many of that belief are idiots, many may be disingenuous, but many simply believe (perhaps for fatuous reasons) that abortion means killing a child. The argument that 'that does not affect them' is stupid and does not do the issue justice.", "This isn't the full interview, is it?", "Totally forgot about this show. Was expecting something funny, but instead kept it real.\n\nEdit: so apparently this show has been on for 7 seasons with new episodes airing in January 2022?! \n\nIt’s weird that I haven’t seen a clip from this show in ages. Does it just suck? Figured even if it sucked people here would still make fun of it.", "Its weird because there is definitely more. This is the extended version as opposed to what aired on the show. But that version has totally different content in it. I wish they’d release a real *full* interview.", "It’s waaaaay too late for that I am afraid. I agree with you but, it will fall on mostly deaf ears. We are far too corrupt for any real change to happen at this point with regards to his message.", "He mentioned George W. Bush. I think for people like the speaker, this stuff was okay when they were the underdogs, when they were the put-upon minority. But then GW is elected, we end up in these horrible wars, tons of other bad policies, and he sounds like a complete idiot every time he opened his mouth. And these guys realized the fruits of what they’ve been pushing was a bitter fruit indeed. \n\nIn the post-Trump era, people forget about Bush. But at the time people hated him with all their heart and soul. Trump was clearly a much worse human being, but Bush, or at least the team he surrounded himself with, were far more effective at getting shit done than Trump was. And because of 9/11, Bush’s opposition was effectively hamstrung, so there was no real opposition to his shenanigans. \n\nIt did real damage. And the fact that he got away with it all, I think was a real reason all these Repubs who hate Trump were nevertheless ready to back him once he was in power.", "It boils down to at what point do you consider a person a person.\n\nYou are against murdering people I presume? I bet you are against murdering children and probably babies even. Pretty much everyone is against killing a baby that has been birthed from a woman. We all agree, _that_ is a person for sure and nobody should be allowed to murder a person. Even if it's a person you will never meet, or affect your life in any way. So, if you think that 10 minutes before that baby was born, it was still a person and entitled to all the protections we give people. And then that line keeps on moving backwards. Is it the line of viability (when a baby is technically able to survive outside a womb)? Is it when the heartbeat starts? Is it conception? The line moves. And the line is about when a person is a person. You are against murdering people right? \n\nYour position _only_ holds, if you are talking about not killing a person. And you may very well believe that a 1st trimester baby is not a person yet. Many would agree with you. But also, many would not.\n\nYou aren't gonna convince people that its just an issue of choice. There are _loads_ of choices we as people aren't allowed to make. We aren't allowed to murder, steal, or even use copyrighted music without the consent of the copyright holder. There's a plethora of laws that we all agree on as a society so that we may live together peacefully.", "technically, a person has a personality, which newborns lack. when does that develop?", "Never at all for a lot of people, from what I can tell.", "Maybe you should learn how to read.\n...and start at the beginning.", "> I don't like this argument because if I punch a pregnant lady in the stomach, killing the baby inside, I would be charged with murder. You are only consistent if you think I should not receive any punishment as it's \"just a bunch of cells\" or a \"tumor\" or whatever, but of course you don't.\n\nNot necessarily. Only 38 states have fetal homicide laws. Also, there is a pretty substantial difference between that and abortion.\n\n>I was was aborted, it would impact my life quite a bit.\n\nAnd yet, it wouldn't at all because you wouldn't ever have even been around to make the distinction. A fetus doesn't even develop enough to have a consciousness until at least 5 months in.\n\n>If a woman wants to have a baby and has a miscarriage, it affects the mother quite a bit and I would NEVER have the nerve to go up to them saying it doesn't matter at all and they should just get over it.\n\nAgain, this is completely different than wanting an abortion and wanting to keep the baby. I don't even know why you are saying this at all. Of course a miscarriage will affect the mother, she wanted to have a baby. There is a huge amount of psychological things that happen after such a traumatic event. Hell, even an abortion can have some similar issues. That's why when you sit down to have one (depending on the stage) your doctor talks to you about it.", "A fetus doesn't develop a consciousness until at least 5 months.\n\nQuestion for you: Do you believe you should be forced to donate an organ to somebody that needs it if you are still alive?", ">So at 5 months it turns into a human? At what time of the day does this happen exactly? You are against abortion after 5 months? \n\nIt's not my choice. If there are no complications I do not think a woman should get an abortion this late, but again it is not my choice. My ethics and my beliefs don't enter the picture here.\n\n>If the woman has complications at 6 months and the pregnancy has to be aborted, then you are killing the baby? And that's OK?\n\nYep, this is totally fine with me.\n\nHow far do your ethics/morals go? You could save the life of an already born and living person by donating a kidney right now. Have you done it? Should people be required to do it?", "> It's so goddamn annoying to talk to leftists.\n> \n> \n> \n> You just said it's a baby after 5 months.\n> \n> \n> \n> From conception, the doctor protects the life of the mother and the child alike. There is no magical \"5 months\" where the doctor suddenly classifies the baby as it's own thing. It's made up and has nothing to do with medical science or biology. You are just making it all up as you go along. \n\nThe doctor is protecting the life of the mother and fetus. It is called a fetus until it is born. Doctors may call it a baby to the expecting mother because of common language. Cycle of pregnancy is:\n\nFirst 8-10 weeks - Embryo\n\nFrom 10 weeks all the way until birth - Fetus (38 weeks? Still a fetus)\n\nBirth - Baby (or neonate/newborn)\n\nThis is how science describes the process.\n\n>So you admit that abortion equals killing a baby. But somehow only after 5 months because you said so.\n\n>You have proven my point and you don't even know it.\n\n>It's like the trolley choice. It's a choice between two bad things. \n\nMy not correcting the language that you are comfortable with does not mean I am equating abortion to killing a baby. Nor does it mean that my time line is \"because I said so\"\n\n>No, I actually even couldn't. And that is a complete non-sequitor. \n\nExcept it isn't. So, should it be required for those that are able to donate an organ to donate said organ?", "It's called science.\n\nI specifically outlined the difference between a baby and a fetus.\n\nAnd I ask again, should it be required for those that are able to donate an organ to donate said organ?", "> No it isn't. It's called semantic bullshit and intellectual dishonesty. \n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetus\n\nIt is literally how it is defined.\n\n>There is absolutely no \"science\" to back any of that up. You already moved the goalpost from 5 months to birth.\n\nI did not move the goalpost. I told you when a fetus begins to develop a consciousness. \n\n\"A fetus doesn't even develop enough to have a consciousness until at least 5 months in.\"\n\nI have not once used the term \"baby\" in place of \"fetus\", I just never corrected your personal usage of the word. I regret not correcting you now because you seem to be incapable of moving on from it.\n\n>When does this magical change from \"fetus to baby\" happen? Tell me the EXACT moment? \n\nAT BIRTH. When you have an abortion, you are terminating the fetus.\n\nThe same thing happens with chickens and eggs. It isn't a chick until it is BORN.\n\nIt is the scientifically accurate, medical terminology that is used across all species. You choosing to use different words because of your personal feelings does not change the correct terminology. It's not \"murican scientism\" it is like globally acknowledged science.\n\nAnd for your records, less than 1% of abortions in the US occur after 20 weeks. And of those after 20 weeks, almost all are due to complications either with the baby or with the mother.", ">I don't care about your \"definitions\"\n\nAlright so you don't care about science. Got it. I guess we can just end it there then." ]
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Full Frank Schaeffer Interview on the Birth of the Pro-Life Movement | Full Frontal with Samantha Bee
https://youtu.be/93uCKG-DiIo
/r/videos/comments/r9vctw/compton_street_magic/
[ "His buddies were all just glad it wasn’t them", "Reminds me of this parody\n\nhttps://youtu.be/FSu-Y4I09eo", "Bingo Bango", "CHEEZ ITS", "The votes on this video, and the comments, don't represent how truly fucking awesome the original \"Street Magic\" special was when it came out in 1997. \n\nI was a kid, but it blew my mind and blew the blinds of most adults at the same time too.", "Wait this isn't even the david blaine parody video. I mean it is but not the cheez its", "“Steet” was a buzz word in the 90’s. Anything that was “street” was cool. Blaine changed the norm of the well dressed stage magician.", "HE JUST PEED ORANGE SODA!", "iirc, penn from penn & teller has been on record saying it is the greatest 'on the street' magic performance of all time.", "I remember the word steez getting used lots in the 90s, especially on the internet, weirdly it didn't end up sticking around like other internet slang from the time.", "Still used in snowboard culture" ]
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Compton street magic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJEiDRi4Itc
/r/videos/comments/r9vidb/the_religious_leaders_scene_from_hail_caesar/
[ "One of the Coen’s best self-contained comic scenes.", "\"Still gets me\" all these **five** long years later.", "Eh, I haven't an opinion.", "This is based on the real current MPAA isn’t it?", "\"Any visual depiction of the Godhead is most strictly prohibited.\"\n\n\"Oh.\"\n\n\"But, of course, for us, the man Jesus Nazarene is not God.\"\n\n\"Ah-ha!\"", "Good scene from a movie that I didn't enjoy. It felt like apologetics for McCarthyism.", "The movie didn't quite land for me, but man there was some fantastic moments in it.", "It benefits from repeat viewing. But I agree it didn't have the instant appeal of their earlier work.", "> It felt like apologetics for McCarthyism.\n\nReally? I got the opposite from that.", "I really did enjoy this film. Marketing screwed it by really misrepresenting it what the film was... a few days in the life of Josh Brolin's character as he puts out fires on a film studio.... just with the standard Coen flair their known for. \n\n\nThat being said, that premise does lend itself to and probably would have worked better as a TV series moreso than a film. I absolutely could see \"Hail, Caesar\" as an episodic comedy with each episode dealing with these small fires that Brolin has to put out. The largest fire (The George Clooney sub-plot) and his decision to leave the studio for the better paying job could have been through-plots through a season of Television. \n\nBut still, a very enjoyable Coen Bros film", "God is a bachelor, and very angry!", "I love how they start with close ups of the leaders, making you think they've packed the whole conference room with all these faiths, and then they go to the wide and it's just three flavours of Christian and a Jew.", "Would that it were so simple.", "I need to watch this again. I had felt similarly underwhelmed by Lebowski and now it's one of my favorite Coen brothers' film. I expect I will get more out of this one with a second or even third watch as well.", "Doing good for others? Eh, couldn't hurt.", "It's based on how studios had to grovel to religious groups back then.", "Same. The scene where Clooney just instantly signs on to communism is great", "The most underrated Coen movie, in my opinion. Very, very fun.", "I'm in a minority where it's not my favourite Coen Brothers film, but it's probably the one I watch on my own the most (though might be tied with Buster Scruggs at this point, and neither is too far ahead from Brother Where Art Thou). It's so immersive and well-acted and genuine. They recreated an era so well and then peaked behind the curtain. \n\nI also really enjoy Alden Ehrenreich and I'm sorry Solo sorta sucked.", "I must confess, I was a little disappointed on first viewing. \n\nCertain scenes had me howling with laughter, but the overall movie took a while for me to embrace.\n\nAgree with you though, the performances are superb. And the world building so expected of the Coens is fantastic as always. \n\nI haven't watched Buster Scruggs yet. I keep meaning to but the idea of the film hasn't quite grabbed me.\n\nI'll do it over the Christmas break." ]
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The religious leaders scene from Hail Caesar! Still gets me
https://youtu.be/6SYT0upjNac
/r/videos/comments/r9w2oz/this_guy_mounted_three_jet_engines_to_his_tesla/
[ "Awesome", "I feel like there's quite a few laws being broken there for several good reasons.\n\nAlso, the neighbours must *love* him...", "I wish this had ended like that old urban legend of the car they attached JATO rockets to that then got stuck in the side of a cliff", "If I was his neighbor and he sand blasted my pickup like that there would be hell to pay.", "I feel that the waste of time it took watching this video pales in comparison to the time this guy spent making it.", "Yea, good idea putting those right where they get no airflow… behind the car….", "Dude has way more money than sense.", "He actually just talk shit about people cleaning up the highway in his neighbourhood?", "the build stuff was far more interesting than the 0-60 times. \n\nIdk if I'd drive behind someone with jet engines, lol...", "Does Websters do a picture dictionary in the United States? Because they need a portrait of this guy for \"douchebag\".", "Old Russian Joke: \n\nAn elderly Russian man and a New Russian (ie, rich, dumb 90s Oligarch) both get to the Pearly Gates at the same time. While they're waiting for St. Peter, they discuss how they died.\n\n\"I wanted my old Zaporozhets car to go a little faster,\" says the old man, \"so I took my war trophy Junkers jet engine, strapped it to the top, and got up to 400kmh on the road before it exploded!\"\n\n\"Oh,\" says the New Russian, \"I also died in a car accident! I thought I was doing 200kmh in my Mercedes when I got passed by this old Zaporozhets - I realised I must've been completely stopped, so then I opened my door and got out...\"", "\"whyd this guy cut me off\" \n\nYeah idk if people want to drive behind your garage build jet engine car", "i'm no engineer, but why not angle the jets to provide downforce and forward thrust? feel like that might solve the problem", "Are those Texas plates?", "Clearly says Illinois.", "Maybe the extra traction would be worth it but if that's not the problem in better conditions then any force pointed down is not being used to push it forward.", "How old can that joke really be?", "spoiler alert: *he couldn't*", "Yeah because what I want to breath on my daily commute is spent jet fuel.", "Older than you, I'll wager.", "Can anyone give me a TLDW because i ain't wasting 20mins", "I thought Teslas were cool for a minute but now I laugh every time I see one on the road. Even the body shape is starting to look outdated already idk it’s weird. I’m sure they are fine though", "\"I thought he just bought a fricken Tesla?!? Why does it sound like he's got an airplane over there??\"", "The ''safe'' design they've gone for definitely speaks to older people and businesses. Personally I wouldn't spend this much money on a car that practically looks like a Ford Mondeo.", "This dude is great at fabricating parts but driving that shit on the road is messed up. Just fucking up whatever car happens to be behind him. Not to mention the truck in the alley that he sandblasted. Fuck this guy", "My age is irrelevant. \n\nI suppose I would not consider a joke about Jet technology and Mercedes that old.", "*whoosh*", "Jet engines that don't produce enough thrust to knock over a garbage bin aren't going to move a nearly 5,000 lb (2,268 kg) car.\n\nAlso, if they did produce enough thrust to affect the car, they'd snap right off those shitty mounts because the force of all that thrust is going to torque the hell out of the screws. The engines need to be built into the frame in order to apply thrust to the vehicle first. The screws that bolt the engines to their mount are going to eat all that force in this set up.", "shaved a second off of his 0-60 on his p85d. went from 4.5 to 3.5. his best is 2.4 on track and the testing in this video is on poor road conditions. total shit.", "I would have been interested to see the car pushed by jet engines alone to get an idea of how much the thrust really translates into forward motion.", "He's already got a tesla, that would now need hydrocarbon fuel. I would LOVE it if he would bring them to my house to mount one or two on my pedal bike.", "So, he shaved off 22%? That actually sounds pretty good", "Or maybe Colin Furze can get a jet powered car and stick electric fans on the back to see if it's the same effect." ]
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This guy mounted three jet engines to his Tesla to see if he could get faster 0 to 60 mph times.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gx_E4SHg-TI
/r/videos/comments/r9wqgh/film_theory_spidermans_big_reveal_the_xmen_are/
[ "Xmen reboot, read all about it.", "\"Hi and welcome to another MCU speculation video", "So Galactus is Disney consuming media franchises? I’m starting to understand this.", "There's a good chance this theory is wrong. But the way it's presented is still fun. 😊" ]
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Film Theory: Spider-Man's Big REVEAL! The X-Men Are Coming! (Spider-Man No Way Home)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_FOS1GvZOY
/r/videos/comments/r9wstl/dog_sleep_farting_makes_cat_really_angry/
[ "lol... I love how the cat knew what was going on immediately and glares at the dog with absolute disgust.", "You just know it went from, \"wait... wut?\" to \"duuuuude, that's nasty\" in 3 seconds flat.", "Dogs fart, cats are dicks", "Seems like there are a load of dog lovers downvoting.", "funny video but that fart is 100% fake\n\ncat's just angy", "The fart has been edited to the video. How can you not hear that?", "BUT ITS SO FUNNEH :D :D: XD ROFL LIKE N FOLLOW IF U LAUGHED", "The internet is great because I can watch Einstein explain relativity immediately followed by a cat who's angry at a farting dog.", "Which is more enlightening?" ]
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Dog sleep farting makes cat really angry
https://youtu.be/YKBrEE1lqBI
/r/videos/comments/r9x79g/very_well_made_hiking_video_from_finland/
[ "Um, ja.", "Oujaa", "Thanks for sharing. I'm always amazed how some parts of Scandinavia look exactly like where I live in Nova Scotia. From the trees, rocks, waters, everything except the human build stuff.", "The nature is really beautiful! There are some comments in the youtube video comment section that express the same about some parts in USA being similar :)" ]
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Very well made hiking video from Finland. Incredible production value for just one person hiking and filming the entire hike.
https://youtu.be/MvsPCJe45qY
/r/videos/comments/r9xg1u/neanderthal_dna/
[ "Oooo does that mean I get to be a victim???", "I'm 2.8% victim", "Shut up, baby. I know it", "https://youtu.be/l8uvAn6Mk-s", "My results were pretty much the same, french/english neanderthal Canadian... its the Canadian dna that terrifies me", "Sorry bout that bud, hope you enjoy the rest of your DNA" ]
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Neanderthal DNA
https://youtu.be/lpiB2wMc49g
/r/videos/comments/r9xhbf/rick_roll_but_make_it_anime/
[ "I'd imagine this anime would have an amazing supporting cast of high schoolers with quirky love triangles and track meets. One of them would probably have a smaller winged creature from another planet as their sidekick. Hidden from the group, of course, but still gets up to shenanigans and causes all sorts of mischief. :-P", "And the last shot of this opening is a fly over pan around zoom shot of all the main protagonists standing on the edge of the roof of their school building.", "Gazing out in the future. :-P What would we call it?", "Chidori Spring", "with OVA's of course." ]
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Rick Roll but make it anime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHicGPV7Gcs
/r/videos/comments/r9xm18/21_years_ago_robin_williams_went_on_whose_line_is/
[ "Robin crushes it, as always, but who's line always makes me think of the [Richard Simmons](https://youtu.be/zML2J7lx76c) segment.", "Obligatory Colin Mochrie appreciation comment", "Love seeing Robin, but it kills me being reminded that he's gone.", "That is stuck in my head since childhood!", "The bend 'n snap. Classic.", "I remember watching this when it aired. My mother said \"We're watching!\" and recorded it. We still have that VHS somewhere.", "Wow. What talents. All of them.", "Captain hair is a Canadian treasure", "Correction- an international treasure that the world owes Canada for", "Sorry about that, we want nothing.", "AND YOULL GET NOTHING. Have a good day :)", "Robin was always great. Although he was just a smidgen more than 21 more like 41. He was mork from work when he was in his twenties.", "Uhmmm I watched this when it first came out. 21 years???!!", "omfg. The Williams one is truly hilarious. But the Richard Simmons bits are just so god damn funny. The entire audience and cast just lose it and it's fantastic.", "What episode? All of these are on hbo now, I’ve watched a few of them.", "This skit was 21 years ago. Not when he was 21", "21 years *ago*", "I love how Wayne goes \"Yessss\" when Colin says to do it like a riverdance!", "They're saying it was 21 years AGO, not that he was 21 years old. Haha", "Oops. One too many beers.", "I remember that episode. Use too watch them all. Gold", "That crowd got to witness the Richard Simmons episode and the Meow episode", "How much of it is improvised?", "All of it dude. It was the premise of the show", "TIL 21 years ago Wayne Brady looked the same as he would 21 years later.", "Good, because it's not on the CWSeed site or HBOMax AFAIK. Worth keeping your hands on.", "I don't believe this episode is on HBO. There are more than a few missing episodes.", "This must of been filmed around when Robin did [One Hour Photo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjIBX5RrG4Q) based on his bleach blond hair.", "From what I can tell:\n\nThe skits are improvised. The situations are mostly conceived of ahead of time, and the writers get REALLY good at knowing what the performers are good at. They film way more footage than they need on the day (I think 45 minutes per episode) and they'll cut lines, whole sketches, etc and only keep the choicest meat.", "Now that's a spicy meat-a-ball-a!", "What hurts me is remembering he was struggling with serious depression this entire time. I wish mental health was more acceptable then and now. Its getting better but.", "black don't crack.", "His funniest line was \"what the hell am I doing, I have a career\"", "His death wasn't due to depression. It was due to a his health decline. He was misdiagnosed with Parkinson's, when he had Lewy bodies disease.\n\nIt's really messed up, but would you rather have an alive Robin Williams who is barely a shell of his former self?", "What a special human being, rip sir. You're going to be missed for a very very long time.", "Mashallah, my man looks like he gave birth to his parents", "Now you'd have to explain to kids what a \"1 hour photo\" even is.", "According to my sources it's the [lotion](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dU03Y-9NkbE&t=4m29s).", "Lewy Body Dementia is a terrible fate...", "All types of Dementia are terrible. My Mom has 'regular' Alzheimer's Dementia and it fucking sucks. Cancer would be better; you have a chance to beat cancer and it doesn't destroy your memories, dignity and identity.", "Robin could have made a lot of jokes with that", "Fuckin' a I haven't laughed like that in a minute. Thanks for the throwback.\n\nI miss this style of comedy. I miss his truth and his spirit.", " The part that gets me everyime is ''i think it wants more coins'' and then it zooms out to everyone literally dying.", "“What is robin thinking right now” \nThe audience member who put that in the hat probably felt so cool.", "What I wish is that he could have had a dignified death where he could say goodbye to everyone, people could thank him once last time and say goodbye. He could then have a gentle, dignified and private death surrounded by his loved ones.\n\nHow he ended his life hurts far more than the fact that he is no longer with us.", "Dude, I was like, \"Robin is quite a bit shorter than I remember\", but no! Turns out everyone else is 6' or taller! I had no idea XD", "This is my go to \"what makes you laugh every time\" skit. Always always hilarious", "Stop making shit up. Seriously, if you aren’t sure what you’re talking about, just don’t say anything.", "I'm so excited! For Xmas I'll be giving my wife tickets to his and Sherwood's live show in January. I'm sure it'll be great.", "Lucky bastards! Have a good time for me too!", "And Ryan’s soul leaves his body.", "I miss Richard Simmons.", "Drew was a good host, and his laughter was definitely contagious, but he rarely completely lost it like he did during Richard Simmons' segment.", "Amazing. Commenting to save for later", "There is a save feature.", "I always wondered why my dick still looks brand new while the rest of me is a wrinkled mess. Lotion is the key.", "They have all these phrases for different races aging gracefully like “black don’t crack”. I think it’s just that white people age like shit. Source: Am white.", "Wait - he’s dead?", "Chances are he wouldn't be alive today. He died in 2014 and his prognosis gave him at most 3 years. He might have been able to work for a few more months at best before he required around-the-clock care. The best he could have hoped for was for doctors to keep him comfortable while he deteriorated.", "No, we can forget 1hr photo. It's all good Robin, you be loved for all time.", "Yeah they definitely reshoot and retry different skits mutiple times. \n\nI watched sound outtakes of the HoDowns before and Ryan HATES them and will make it known. Causing reshoots to get one whole song out.", "he was 5'7\"", "you should try and digitize it and upload it, probably 10 times the quality it is now;", "Having Robin Williams guest-star on Whose Line might have been the biggest no-brainer in the history of television.", "well then. I'm normally a lurker but now i know. Thanks!", "White ain't tight? Source: Am white.", "Nah, he's alive. Apparently he's 73, which is surprising.\n\nEdit: But also... [Hmmm?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Simmons#Retreat_from_public_life)", "He’s looked like he was 73 since 1973. \n\nBut I love that guy.", "the show is so good that i, a 24 year old norwegian, have watched just about every episode i can find.", "And! Wayne had the best approximation of step dancing!", "Did you also watch the original British Whose Line? Some of those are better than anything they managed later on.", "> I wish mental health was more acceptable then and now\n\nNo, let's not normalize insanity", "Why did he have to die?", "That's a good idea. At the every least, it might make a good gift for my mother.", "Use lotions my amigo. Seriously, you may not know it because you’re white butbuour skin gets ashy and crusty too. You gotta hydrate from the outside and the inside.", "You might of heard the phrase \"laugh until your sides hurt\", well, this episode literally did that to me the first time I saw it. I also lol'd a lot and may have rotfl'd a bit also.\n\nMiss you man.", "disablities wil never be accepted\n\nevolution and nature know no mercy for the weak", "> but he rarely completely lost it like he did during Richard Simmons' segment.\n\nThis, the Arctic Turn, and Ryan hitting his head on the desk.", "Yeah, sorry. I wasn’t saying he’s dead. Just that I miss his appearances. He hasn’t made a public appearance, that I know of, in years. Many people speculate health or mental health problems. His spokesperson says he is OK but he hasn’t spoken for himself in a long time. That’s what I meant by I miss him.", "Wow you just made my day. Hilarious!!", "holy shit thank you for making me look up arctic turn, that was so funny", "I discovered that we only should soap our armpits, groin and feet everyday. Everything else is self-cleaning\\*.\n\n\\*within reason, as in soap and shampoo every couple of weeks or so", "This episode and the one with Richard Simmons are top shelf Who's Lines.", "I met him at a gig in Scotland once, super nice guy on top of being funny as fuck", "I think there was a documentary “finding Richard Simmons” or something. I knew he went into hiding but was hoping he was still alive. Haven’t heard much about him, but as an 80’s kid, he was such a staple of my childhood. Sweatin to the Oldies and Deal-a-Meal!!", "Greg Proops was pissing himself.", "The one guy jumping up and down in the aisle kills me.", "There was a clip of him recently saying hi to a tourbus going by his house which I thought was exceptionally nice of him. I'd hate tourists driving by my house all the time. Seemed himself, really nice to the fans.", "His hair is like that for his role in the film One Hour Photo, for those of you who didn't know. Really creepy movie and he does a great job if you're interested.", "So's Ryan", "Ok? That's 2 inches from average. Wouldn't consider that short.", "I like at 4:19 Colin is just looking at Wayne wondering what he's doing.", "* [Arctic Tern](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBzwv057GPs)\n* [Ryan hitting his head](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6Qtlfd9ul4)\n\nand another one of my favorites: [Drew's recorder prank](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41oHePob_Nw)", "What a loss", "I love the look he gives the recorder when Wayne's voice comes up.", "I miss Robin Williams.. :(", "well hes a little short of average", "Robin Williams is a gem, it's just too bad the world didn't get to keep him with us longer than we could. He really was legit a kind dude to others, just wish he was kinder to himself.", "\"I'm just so happy.\"", "As a non native I can't quite get what the bird says or what is the joke about the Artic Tern", "Damn, I need to start using lotion", "He says \"Backstreet Boys,\" which is the name of a boy band and a far cry away from what Ryan was trying to get him to say, which was \"who,\" which is the name of a rock band and the sound an owl makes. Hope that helps.", "Season 3 Episode 13", "Who could have predicted Robin Williams (of all people) was a good improv comic???", "The crowd dying like that reminds me of seeing Borat in theaters. The hotel fight scene had everyone laughing so hard. I remember crying and my stomach getting sore.", "I forgot about the neon light, that was gold!", "[ **Jump to 04:19 @** Whose Line Is It Anyway - Richard Simmons CLOSED CAPTIONED](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zML2J7lx76c&t=0h4m19s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: abcohende, Video Popularity: 96.70%, Video Length: [04:50])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@04:14](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zML2J7lx76c&t=0h4m14s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)", "Ignoring your shitty take here, what the fuck is up with the self \"censorship\"? Do you really think throwing in underscores will somehow trick Big Tech (or whatever) into not noticing you using \"banned\" words? Like why censor hoodlums and not gangbangers? You fascinate me in the worst way.", "Season 3 Episode 9 but I'm having an extremely hard time finding it anywhere.", "I'm not trolling, just genuinely curious. \n\nAlso, I used a supposed censored word and my comment wasn't deleted...", "Shoot I was coming up empty as well", "Unfortunately, I did not find a legal source for it. Sorry :(", "Cool, everyone always mentions this but it’s this first time I’ve actually seen it. Thanks!!", "Wel, the joke is mostly around Ryan and Colin having a long history of trying to make eachother break character by doing silly stuff. A tern saying something like that is so out of place it's hard to not start laughing because of how unexpected it is.\n\n[The Tapioca incident](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2D5-pUs6z0) is possibly by far the greatest example of this.", "I find it weird that people say he was depressed and killed himself. Then another group of people storm in saying that he killed himself because of a horrific diagnosis, and depression had nothing to do with it.\n\nRobin Williams had a long storied history with drug abuse and depression. So a person that has that background then being diagnosed with a severely debilitating terminal illness, it's not a wild stretch of what the outcome would be. \n\nWhat is a wild stretch is to imply that he killed himself as if it were akin to PAS while there was zero notice to his closest friends and family. Makes no sense tf? He would not have died the way that he did, unless persistent depressive disorder was a major contributing factor.", "Thanks. I was wondering if there was a word play around Artic Tern I was missing, but it simple silliness then.", "Seriously? First result on google. \n\nhttps://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4xwi1a", "Huh. I definitely didn't find that one in my search results, weird. \n\nThanks", "It only self cleans if you are healthy. i.e. Eat your vegetables, exercise, get enough sleep.\n\nIf not then you are in for a trip to sebum city. Enjoy cleaning grey out of your fingernails after you scratch your back on day 4 of no soap." ]
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21 years ago Robin Williams went on Whose Line is it Anyway and absolutely crushed it.
https://youtu.be/wjTZfbfr3QI
/r/videos/comments/r9xujb/nice_guy_aggressively_offers_everyone_coffee/
[ "\"Hello 911, this guy is in here offering everyone fresh coffee...\"", "all units respond, bring donuts", "Eh took it too far for my taste. Like at 0:04 there’s a kid who smiles. But it just. Keeps. Going.\n\nSeeing him shouting repeatedly walking away with part of the coffee machine to a visibly distressed employee as the only audience for his “skit” drained the fun out of it.\n\nSo yeah funny bit with cringe execution", "Agreed. He's trying too hard to be funny. A little subtlety would work wonders but that's not really the American way when it comes to humour.", "This shit is annoying, don’t do this.", "Why do i recognise this guy?" ]
6
videos
Nice Guy Aggressively offers everyone Coffee
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RYY_oW7I6w
/r/videos/comments/r9xwry/small_order_of_monks_living_hidden_lives_in_south/
[ "Equal parts respect and confusion for those who participate in such a lifestyle.", "I guess it makes sense if you're maybe Ace and really feel a spiritual connection with the land.", "most monks feel a spiritual connection with God and pursue that", "Man, I bet that kid has never seen Terminator 2.", "What a bunch of morons" ]
5
videos
Small order of monks living hidden lives in South Canterbury hills
https://youtube.com/watch?v=uZmHbYShJRM&feature=share
/r/videos/comments/r9y7fy/grand_theft_auto_iii_dunkview/
[ "Grand Theft Auto 3. Donkey Kong Country 3. Coincidence? 🤔", "[I told him he wouldn't do it.](https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/r967ff/no_video_today/hna4uo8/)", "Another video without DonkeyKong. Another downvote from me. Can’t wait till he sees it…", "What do you mean? There's been Donkey Kong videos every single time! So far:\n\n- The DK December announcement\n- Reminding people that Donkey Kong is, in fact, good\n- Taking revenge on people in CoD for talking shit about Donkey Kong\n- A story about the origin story of >!Cheetos!< featuring Donkey Kong's long lost cousin or alter ego and calling out to DK that he loves him!\n- A review of one of the best games in the Donkey Kong franchise, baybeeeeee!", "0 dislikes though, must be a good video", "Love that Bully music in the background.", "Better post it on reddit. For some reason...", "Are you complaining that someone posted a video in a subreddit titled r/videos? What else did you expect to see here?", "Better make a comment for some reason...", "I don't even play games anymore they're all so broken I just watch glitch videos.", "It's amazing that all of your comments are negative. Get outside once in a while, guy", "Donkey Kong December\n\nDonkey Kong December\n\nDonkey Kong December\n\nDonkey Kong December\n\nDonkey Kong December\n\nDonkey Kong December\n\nDonkey Kong December\n\nDonkey Kong December", "Knack 3?", "Uh, what? You're watching glitch videos so you think that's just how games are during normal gameplay?", "...are you defending the honor of video games?", "No, I'm pointing out your dumb logic. It's for the purpose of pointing out the dumb logic, not for the purpose of defending anything.", "What logic? It's a throwaway comment under a comedy video. What exactly do you think you're debunking?", "That games are generally broken. You said you don't play games, but you watch glitch videos. That makes it seem like you only see games through those videos and that you think games generally are like glitchy and broken. Because you only watch the glitches on Youtube. That's dumb logic.", "My god, you **are** defending video games! Hahaha!", "No, I'm commenting on the logic. I'm not saying anything about whether it's true or not because I don't play modern video games myself. It's the logic I'm criticizing. How are you too dumb to understand this even after having it explained three times?", "Are you still trying to have this argument?", "I'm just replying to your responses. It's dumb to think that games are generally glitchy if you only see them through videos that specifically show glitches. Just like how it's dumb to say, for example, that all books are badly written when you only see them through videos that specifically showcase badly written books.", "Bruh Ico is a classic still have my copy", "Did this video have some kind of Donkey Kong reference that I was too stupid to realise?\n\nOne of the youtube comments says: \"Grand Theft Auto III takes place in the fictional island of Liberty City which is based off of New York City which is the setting of the film King Kong which the main inspiration of the original Donkey Kong.\" \n\nIf so it would be pretty clever, but feels like it's one leap too many, Dunkey's jokes are usually more straightforward.", "ALL YOU HAD TO DO WAS MAKE A VIDEO ABOUT DONKEY KONG!", "If I remember right you can't bail out of a moving car in GTA3. So you can have your car catch on fire, know it's going to explode, and sit there trying to brake to a stop so you can get out...even worse when the car is upside down and you're sliding with no way to [slow down](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Aa-_MICfXw).", "It’s really a strand-type reference", "Really makes you *feel* like Donkey Kong", "No thumbs downs though, must be good.", "What about Dankey Kang?", "Dunkey Kong", "K anyone who got the remastered trilogy and is using a ps4. Do these games run your fan high? Like I can play tetris no prob, but Ghost of Tsushima kicks my system into overdrive. \n\nAny idea?", "Without DK there is no CJ", "Say I won't do it.", "Uberdanger's video on GTA 3 is much better imo", "He ain't done it today", "And Princes Zorldo" ]
40
videos
Grand Theft Auto III (dunkview)
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/r9ylqg/deleted_by_user/
/r/videos/comments/r9ylqg/deleted_by_user/
[ "If someone's telling you to invest in something there's a 99% chance it's a scam.", "I guess this all passed by me cos I don't watch any of that trash.", "Ayyy, kinda had a feeling that the guy at 1:49 was douchebag, and sure enough I was right." ]
3
videos
[deleted by user]
https://vimeo.com/247846876
/r/videos/comments/ra0b8w/the_snl_parody_commercial_that_got_banned_because/
[ "Beck Bennett is one of SNL’s best cast members ever imo. I would love for him and Kyle Mooney to make their own show because their work is consistently great. \n\nedit: [like this for example](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KUzGrzsYqH4)", "It's a parody, how did they manage to get it banned?\n\nThis was hilarious and if by these standards like 90% or more of SNL could be banned. Like WTF!?", "iirc it was because Safelite said it highly respects its employees and the sketch was super disrespectful of their employees and wanted it scrubbed. so you can’t find it on YouTube or any of their official channels now lol. they were pissed", "their real commercials used to be creepy but they changed them after the snl skit", "Those parody spots are typically sponsored by the company being parodied, even if it pokes fun at the brand, it’s typically crafted in a way to be a net positive", "Yeah they were some of the most annoying on tv. I still watch regular tv for background noise a lot and I always hated how they portrayed their Safelite workers as people who act like they’re your best friends. Someone gets a slight chip in their window on vacation and they’re gonna drop everything and head down to Safelite??", "Not to mention the pedophilic vibes... Yikes", "To be fair, they are saying that employee is a pedo.\n\nIts funny but I can understand why they want it pulled.", "Maybe you should check out their old youtube channel, Good Neighbor Stuff, if you haven't already", "How is this pedophilic? She's basically a full woman.", "Sure it wasn't banned because it wasn't funny?", "Got a mirror that doesnt need a vimeo login?", "They dont have to. Safelite would come to them while at the beach.", "To be faaaaaaair", "Really miss him this season!", "Seventeen is legal in NY, according to uncle Merv.", "[My favorite Beck and Kyle sketch, starring Adam Driver](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeAWYVVvpPE)", "Found the Safelite employee.", "If you watch it embedded you don't need to login.\n\nNot sure if that works on mobile.", "16+ is legal in like 2/3 of the US states.\n\nThat doesn't mean a 30-something year old man should go cruising the high schools. ew", "You’re now banned from r/snl", "Yeah, that's the entire joke.", "Not sure why they felt the need to use the real company for this one. Seems like they could have just made up a name like \"Securelite\" and gotten the point across.", "/r/LiveFromNewYork is the actual sub.", "That was great character development.", "Calling it \"banned\" is inaccurate and clickbaity.\n\nSNL [pulled it voluntarily](https://decider.com/2017/11/27/snl-nbc-safelite-controversy) after backlash from TV critics and Safelite:\n\n\"When the SNL sketch featuring Safelite first aired, we expressed our disappointment with how it negatively portrayed our people. It was SNL’s decision to remove the content, and they have not shared their reasons behind that decision.\"\n\nIMO this was a a particularly insipid sketch. Mediocre idea, subpar execution.", ">Those parody spots are typically sponsored by the company being parodied\n\nNot this one though:\n\nhttps://decider.com/2017/11/27/snl-nbc-safelite-controversy", "This is tripping me out a bit. \n\nIn the UK we have a company that uses the same jingle (probably the same parent company or something) just called [AutoGlass](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvnvN2F1Rm4), and it sounds so....wrong as Safelite \n\nAlso Gavin from Autoglass is basically our Jake from Statefarm", "Seinfeld agrees!", "Kyle's got a [new show](https://deadline.com/2021/11/snls-kyle-mooney-riffs-on-saturday-morning-cartoons-in-netflix-series-lorne-michaels-trailer-1234871592/) coming to Netflix this week!", "Adam Driver fucking nailed his SNL appearances. Dudes got chops.", "Safelites commercials of this era were kinda creepy. They always had their employees acting like this (minus the pedophilia).", "https://www.autoglass.co.uk/about-us/who-we-are/belron-group-our-global-network/", "holy crap \n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EwQepDqru8", "Aww Man, I’m all outta cash!", "[so this could have been sponsored by white castle?](https://youtu.be/z0NgUhEs1R4)", "I'm surprised they took this one down and not the \"[Most evil invention\"](https://youtu.be/z0NgUhEs1R4) one.", "Wow some right around 50 seconds get a little extra zing. What makes them so special?", "Tbf, Safelite IS terrible. Had a whole 6 month back and forth with them trying to avoid responsibility for their shoddy work. I won in the end, but I would have much rather have just not had the whole ordeal.", "“I don’t know… I guess I like a lot of light.”\n\nI don’t know… I guess I like a lot of tape.”\n\nThat skit gets me every time.", "What? It's hilarious.", "Knowing White Castle, they more than likely signed off on it.", "Matt Gaetz approved.", "I watched the video again and kinda want white castle now. The plan works. \n\nSadly I'm in Texas and all we got is the frozen packages of them lol.", "No, it was not banned.", "Don't you guys have Krystals in Texas?", "This isn't funny though...", "Same, he was always a standout cast member.", "Yes, because things are so often banned for not being funny.", "Sadly it doesn't seem so. I do plan to go visit relatives in NY soon so I will be able to get white castle within 6 months so all is good", "Though it's not the same, at least you have Whataburger", "> Yeah they were some of the most annoying on tv.\n\nNow that you mentioned it – i have never heard of Safelite before but their jingle was oddly familiar. And then i tried to remember \"our\" annoying glass repair commercial for cars. It has the same melody but – obviously – different text. Searched online and yes – basically the same company. [Belron International Ltd](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belron) known as Carglass in Europe and Safelite in the US. \n\nThey have a recognizable brand i give them that – its annoying but recognizable :P\n\nEdit: wow that's a rabbit hole i've found myself digging into. I didn't want to find it [but here you go Carglass / Autoglass / Belron (All Languages/Countries Jingles)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EwQepDqru8)", "Oh yeah that's a good point. I'm probably going to get that for dinner now lol. I've been hearing they plan to expand and hopefully you'll get one near you one day!", "They wusses, snl makes skits like this all the time, why did they think they went \"too far\"", "Actually, now that you mention it, one is being built 2 hours away from me! : D", "And check in on how the surf is today.", "And offer to help the daughter dry off after her swim lmao", "In Belgium it's Carglass, Exact same jingle.\n\nI was looking for the Belgian version but turns out it's Carglass in most of Europe.\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EwQepDqru8", "Hell yeah! The lines are always a pain but it's just so damn good. Once waited in the drive thru at 1am for 20 minutes just to get a burger and I don't regret it. I've seen people wait in the drive thru for over 40 minutes in a small college town before.", "I can see why this particular one pissed them off. Normally the brands are associated with some inappropriate shit, but it's not targeted at the employees specifically. Like the White Castle sketch mentions it in the same lines as pedophilia, but it's not the employees that are molesting children.", "I recently found out he had his last season : (", "Apparently SNL themselves chose to take it down? If I had to guess it's because Most evil invention doesn't call the employees pedos or say anything bad about the brand itself", "Yeah that's a good point. It was basically just saying everyone loves white castle lol", "Yeah it’s from SNL", "Diff'rent strokes", "As employee I’m not offended lol\n\nStop buying plans with huge deductibles y’all though since so many people are upset when the inevitable happens because they wanted to save money and got the worst coverage imaginable", "Plus, you don’t see any actual molesting. Dr Roy may mention it, but the robot never moves or talks.", "It just makes sense. Part of the reason why things are regionally locked. If I come up with a banger in one market why not just add a coat of paint and release it in a similar market? They don't compete and I make more money.", "How much is costs cash versus what they charge the insurance companies? Though with as many locations (franchise?) they have around the world (post above https://old.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/ra0b8w/the_snl_parody_commercial_that_got_banned_because/hnhaxdz/ ) they will have a monopoly.", "Oh yeah, 100% makes sense. Especially with this one, it's catchy af", "CRUSH YOUR ENEMIES!\n\nAND GRIND THEIR BONES INTO THE DIRT", "Ahhh, that did make me a little uneasy.", "They can't upcharge insurance companies, they just wouldn't pay. Insurance companies know what a windshield costs and what reasonable install costs should be.", "In the US, \"auto glass\" is a broad term for all windshield repair shops, so they have to go by a different name.", "Seriously. You should totally not be doing that until you're at least 45.", "Canada, Speedy Glass, [same shit.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnDXvqEc8AY)", "Ah, that makes sense. Ty!", "I help people with their job provided benefits. The amount of people electing into plans they don't know with terms they don't understand is too damn high.\n\nI'm regularly explaining to people what a deductible is. They ask me like 5 times then exclaim \"Then why am I paying for this plan!\"", "Autoglass repair, autoglass replace sounds like something Windshieldimus Prime would yell to my American ears.", "Yes it was. All footage of it was burned and no one has been able to find a copy for decades.", "Glad to see he chose to leave on his own too, to start a family. He and his wife lived in LA and he was in NY for SNL, and after years he didn't want to put their marriage on hold anymore.", "One of my favorites! So funny. The fact that it’s “banned” reminds me of Astronaut Jones which is super hard to find. Idk why they got rid of it", "New Zealand, Smith and Smith, same jingle and even commerical:\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkNylOv0eMY&ab_channel=dannewsservice", "fucking HR Pickens man, I’m glad he was crushed", "oh man we have so much fun on this boat. catchin waves, crushing brews, girls suckin down on farts. guys with fingers in butts, dicks in butts, outrageous fun", "Do you understand humor?", "Sure Jerry.", "Def thought the sandwich shop was gonna be Subway.", "Where are the free speech warriors on this?", "Yeah I don't think safelite's opinion was the only one that mattered here lol", "Big windshield is bigger than I thought!", "Interestingly (or not), here in Canada that jingle is for Speedy Glass Repair. \"Speedy Glass Repair, Speedy Glass Replace!\"", "It just means SNL agreed to take it down. SNL could still have it up if they wanted to. It is protected speech.", "why's the dutch one so funky" ]
100
videos
The SNL parody commercial that got banned because Safelite thought it made their company look horrible
https://youtu.be/sVPCgNMOOP0
/r/videos/comments/ra32cw/mans_own_defence_lawyer_conspires_with_the/
[ "I get scared about going to a poor country like the USA", "what the fuck", "Imagine what else is being done, if they act like this openly", "this happened during 2020... could not find any more info on the case... probably they did everything they could to silence this", "Absolutely disgusting", "How can the judge and lawyer get away with this???", "https://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/10/31/utah-man-sues-public/", "Because there isn’t video", "How are there no consequences for this?", "but technically, he was still late right? He showed up at 9:07am.....7 min after his scheduled time. Usually, people should be like atleast 10 min early to these things, no?", "If I had court at 9am….I’d be outside the court building at 8\n\nEdit: I’m not agreeing with the court in the video fwiw. That’s a mass court hearing no one actually gets seen directly at 9. That’s fucked up and hopefully he destroys some careers", "He was standing outside when they opened the door at 9. Anyone who wasn’t smashed against the front of the door is late technically. Lol.", "\n\nThis is a pretty terrible video. If you are a minority and you live in a small conservative jurisdiction you can’t just go to any lawyer. There is a “Good ole boy” code and you may pay for help and that person may be working against you. This Hispanic kid was thrown to the dogs. This country really sucks in many aspects if you are a person of color", "The UK, Canada, Sweden, Finland, Germany, The Netherlands, Belgium, Ireland, Iceland, Denmark, Luxembourg. To name just a few.", "Where do you see that he was standing outside at 9? I only see it mentioned that he walked in at 9:07am", "CANADA? Our cops don’t have body cams, nor do court rooms.\n\nJust because you can see the US’s imperfect court system doesn’t make them poor or less than that joke list of yours. It just makes them more transparent. Which is good and necessary for any discussion to improve it.", "2:59 he walks in with a group of people standing outside when they open the door at 9:05. Although this is irrelevant. They lied and they called his case before they let the people in anyway. Before court even started", "Is that your measure of what constitutes a ‘better’ country?", "Here's an update video where he goes over that \nhttps://youtu.be/d6i1D_MI_Gs", "Here's an update video where he goes over that\n\nhttps://youtu.be/d6i1D_MI_Gs", "Yes, as it relates to this post. Oh were we subjectively discussing anything else irrelevant? Pardon me. Carry on crapping on the USA.", "Republicans and Democrats reward people that do this.", "> CANADA? Our cops don’t have body cams, let alone court rooms.\n\nwhat?", "Here's an update video\n\nhttps://youtu.be/d6i1D_MI_Gs", "Another user posted this; https://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/10/31/utah-man-sues-public/", "Sorry i missed that! Thanks for pointing that out!", "No problem", "Cops in Canada don’t have bodycams. And the courts don’t have video cameras with footage made available.", "Oh, in relation to this case? Ok, well in the global corruption index the US is 25th.\n\nhttps://www.transparency.org/en/cpi/2020/table\n\nIn the world justice index they’re 27th.\n\nhttps://worldjusticeproject.org/rule-of-law-index/global", "They issued the warrant before 9 AM. How is it possible to issue a warrant for something that hasn't happened yet?", "The US is poor!", "Sorry?", "> Cops in Canada don’t have bodycams.\n\nwho told you that lol?", "THE US IS POOR!\n\nhttps://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/ra32cw/mans_own_defence_lawyer_conspires_with_the/hnfvjd4/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3", "Any developed democratic country that has a history of these types of incidents. It got to the point we had to put cameras on cops because we didn't believe them.", "Are you just angry that you look like an idiot now?", "Yea definitely. Its fucked up. But i was specifically commenting on the fact that the video mentions he showed up to court 7 min after his scheduled time\n\nBut other people posted some things in response to that, and showed that he cant be at fault for that\n\nScary shit! Glad this was caught on video", "The newspaper in the 4 Canadian cities I have lived in", "The US is poor!", "What about the video we just watched?", "Like the US? Agreed.", "Because there was video. \n\nKeep up.", "He goes over why he got there at 0907 in the video\n\n https://youtu.be/d6i1D_MI_Gs", "You know there are 2 definitions of poor, right? As in, something bad happens to a person and you might say ‘that poor man…’ when you hear about it.", "lol ok", "Thank you!", "Thanks Merriam-Webster", "Well yeah.", "No problem.", "Come visit sometime. See for yourself.", "I know..you said there isn't a video.", "The trick is to be rich, then you can do whatever you want with almost total impunity.", "No problem I was wondering the same thing as well.", "They currently are but I do think justice is coming\n\nHere's the latest update video\n\nhttps://youtu.be/d6i1D_MI_Gs", "Your attitude is poor.", "Live here. Cops have body cams.", "Well what they did was illegal and there is a trial trying to convict them. So if that happens then they would indeed not get away with it.", "Yes, some towns do. The majority of the rest do not. Maybe you’re confused with the cars having car cams.\nAnd Canada certainly doesn’t have the transparency oversight that is needed that the US is a very good example of.", "Your attempt to insult is poor!", "Some Canadian cops are wearing them \n\n\"Toronto Police Service to issue thousands of body-worn cameras to officers by October | Globalnews.ca\" https://globalnews.ca/news/7605612/toronto-police-service-body-cameras-reaction/amp/\n\n\n He's not implying financially poor he's implying this type of poor\n\n worse than is usual, expected, or desirable; of a low or inferior standard or quality. \"many people are eating a very poor diet\"", "Yes it was.", "It happened in America.", "I really hope they don't. We will have to see. Although this video is from 2018 so it's taking some time. What are your opinions on the video and the situation at hand?", "20% of Toronto’s police mean all cops in Canada have bodycams?\n\nNo. \n\nAgain: no, Canada’s police do not have bodycams.\n\nWill they? Probably. But it’s been years and years of the police divisions just kicking the can down the street delaying it until everyone forgets about it.", "I read the title wrong and was so disappointed! I thought that the judge would ask that the lawyers to be arrested :-(", "The situation is poor!", "I know I said some Canadian cops are wearing them since you said Canadian cops don't have body cameras. So I should you proof that some of them do.\n\nIt should be 100% of Toronto cops by now since the article said by October all of them will wear them. Although I don't have any idea how that went.\n\nDo you happen to know what % of American cops wear body cameras?", "They’re not even using it officially. It’s a pilot project, a trial run, with no framework. Any cop with a body cam can turn it off with zero repercussions and blame it on the battery or interfering with their work. \n\nNo, they don’t have bodycams. They might later. And later may be never.", "> He wanted to keep fighting the case, he said, but eventually pleaded guilty because of financial issues\n\nTell me you live in America without telling me you live in America", "Indeed it is bud.", "Because it’s common practice to skirt the rules for these people. \n\nTo call this case out means you have to call out so many others and change a lot of the way the system works moving forward", "Can't American cops also do the same?", "Are they wearing bodycams under a pilot project? No? Then no. \n\nCheck the jurisdiction you’re asking about. They have an oversight framework governing the use of bodycams, and access (or publishing) of the video. Some can’t even turn off their bodycam: it’s turned on for their shift and stays on until they finish. For others, any gaps in recording need to be explained (ie was on break). Bad reasons are grounds for disciplinary action. \n\nIn non-US jurisdictions, it’s pretty bad. Parts of Asia have bodycams where video is only to be used against the defendant, never the police or government. And in Canada, cops don’t have bodycams (minus some trial runs and pilot projects that never conclude or are cancelled).", "Sure. You can strive to be the absolute best individual. Doesn’t mean someone is not going to accuse you of something. Or maybe you get into an accident. Or maybe a domestic dispute not your fault. We don’t know what this is. He’s awaiting trial.", "Try to be white. That helps even more.", "Yep, nobody has ever been falsely accused of a crime. And regardless of whether he was guilty or not, he had a RIGHT to an attorney to defend him.", "That's very interesting. Is there a website or article that you know of that compares the regulations between Canadian law enforcement officers wearing body cams vs American law enforcement officers wearing body cameras?\n\nWith the way American police departments work I would imagine it varies greatly but I don't really know.\n\nI appreciate your reply.", "Nah go do some research. And fix your bad question. Again, Canada cops aren’t using bodycams, so how the hell do you compare US and Canada use of bodycams if CANADA ISN’T USING THEM? It will be short research for you to do. \n\nAnd while you do, wonder why there’s zero police bodycam footage that comes out. Or zero video from Canadian courtrooms. And ask yourself if this makes Canada “less poor” than the US because you can’t see honest camera witness that is very important for any defendant or suspect in Canada.", "*American national anthem plays*", "Gotcha so basically you don't know. \n\nI don't know anything about the Canadian justice system. So I would not try to claim it as poor or fair. I still think the American justice system has lots of room for improvement there's always a new scandal pertaining to it. It's nuts and if we don't try to expose the corruption then shame on us.", "I can tell you didn’t watch the video. There was no evidence of DUI beside cop’s word after his dashcam ‘malfunctioned’ and the police station unlawfully deleted footage from his booking.\n\nBut yeah let’s live in Stalinist Soviet Union sounds cool", "I do know. I studied the issue carefully over several years. Did I make a website or article of my learnings for you? No. Go forth and find out for yourself. Or don’t. Changes nothing for me. \n\nWork on your capacity to make non-crap conclusions and maybe you’ll have better results from your research. \n\nThat there are scandals out about the US system says a lot for their capacity for transparency and debate. The lack of scandals elsewhere means only that: there is a lack of scandals. What do you want “exposed”? It is being exposed. What more do you want? Now you want research done for you on a silver platter. Lift a finger maybe and find out things for yourself.", "many other countries do actually", "It’s a big club. And you ain’t in it.", "So you did your own research but when asked to bring up said research you have nothing. I bet you have a girlfriend that goes to another school so I wouldn't know her.", "Oh wait, I got my folder of research right here. Shall I fax it to you? Or mail?", "You can DM it to me.", "I constantly regret my grandparents emigrating from Denmark. WTF were they thinking??", "TL;DW\n\nSubject reported Mrs. Chestnut to Utah Bar Association. They distorted his claim to be able to take no action and told him he had to take his case to the same court that committed the crime against him. He filed suit and Judge Keith Kelly dismissed with prejudice (Legal term for permanently closing a case).\n\nTL:DR\n\nAs of July 15, 2021 all Sanchez’s ‘*claims*’ have been officially **quashed** 👍", "It’s a folder. Fax number please. Or mailing address. Thanks.", "He's trying to prove that he didn't do the crime. It's a DUI charge where critical video footage isn't available. Did you happen to watch the end of the video? It explains what the trial was over.", "Oh god this felt like a movie. I thought the judge was ignoring him to spring a trap for the lawyers. I thought the judge saw them conspiring together and she was waiting to see if the lawyers would go through with it. And then BAM the judge was part of it. Sad.", "6791 Montana Ave Rm 912 , El Paso, TX 79925", "Excellent. Sending it out today.", "The video claimed only 1 out of the 4 causes of acting have been dismissed.", "TL;DW \n\nThey schedule like 40 people for “9:00am”", "We’re luckily they have cameras in courtrooms with the video made available to a defendant.", "Maybe there was video of court session that can help clear this up", "I feel bad for ya man. We're living the good life over here!", "Thank you I appreciate it. Look forward to reading it 😊", "Might be faster for you if you checked out a site called Google. It’s pretty popular.", "Ok", "That doesn't seem to be the case. It appears his defense attorney didn't want to continue the case. It was a DUI case in which critical video is missing. He's trying to retrieve said video.", "USA is becoming 3rd world country.", "This comment thread. lul", "And even with such video it can take years to get Justice. The American justice system can be quite poor.", "So it would be better if there wasn’t video (like many other countries), huh?\n\nI disagree.", "We know that.", "I definitely didn't say that. No idea how you came to that conclusion.", "There would be no discussion here if there wasn’t this video to have. \n\nThe video suggests to you the American system is poor. The video suggests to me they have a better transparency to improve things. \n\nWe disagree. Bye now.", "Happens to white people too. It’s a class issue. You can put it back in the deck.", "There is still the court transcript that has time stamps. Something the video is missing. Just because we have the transparency to improve things doesn't mean we always do.", "And unluckily he's been dealing with this case for years because of bad legal representation, is in the process of having his claims squashed, and can't afford to keep fighting it. Thank goodness we have video so that the shit can be rubbed in our faces while no one cleans it up.", "It would be better to have no video?\n\nI disagree.", "The Utah Court system is COMPLETELY CORRUPT!!! Horrible inside BS going on! They have been doing this type of crap for years! Money sponges is all they are! They don't give a shit about Justice! Rotten to the core!", "Where did I say that?", ">USA is ~~becoming~~ a 3rd world country.\n\nFTFY\n\nEdit: Yikes. American's don't like hearing they aren't the pinnacle of civilisation, huh?", "When you replied to my comment with a correction making your point. Keep up", " He's been dealing with this case for years because of bad legal representation, is in the process of having his claims squashed, and can't afford to keep fighting it. Thank goodness we have video so that the shit can be rubbed in our faces while no one cleans it up.", "He definitely didn't say that.", "I literally didn't say that anywhere in my comment, but the \"keep up\" in yours made me realize that I recognize you from another comment thread, and this conversation isn't worth having.", "I know, it can be tough to keep up. Bye!", "You're the one struggling with the facts.", "As /u/iusedtobjesus said, this happens to white people all the time. It is a matter of financial class rather than race. This is a court appointed lawyer, AKA a Public Defender -- a lawyer for those who cannot afford to hire one. While there are some good ones out there, more often than not you're going to get a subpar defense. They're usually new attorneys, they're completely slammed with cases and they are drastically underpaid compared to their colleagues. Generally the good lawyers move on to private practice after some experience. In some cases, like here, public defenders are buddy buddy with the prosecution and rush cases through so they can clear their case loads.", "Phew, that was a close one.\n\nFor a second there I thought the people in power might be held accountable.", "Sanchez spent two weeks in jail before he was able to post bond. He wanted to keep fighting the case, he said, but eventually pleaded guilty because of financial issues his brother paid the bond amount for him, he said, and needed the money back. Sanchez eventually requested a recording of that day in court and said he was shocked by what he saw.\nwas outraged,\" he said. completely lost trust in the system.\"\n\nDoes this not sound poor to you?\n\n\n\n\n\nhttps://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/10/31/utah-man-sues-public/", "True, can't win them all.", "I genuinely think bwaic is like some kind of elaborate ai designed to be as stupid as possible to lower the quality of conversation, like every comment he has here is an almost circle of nearly nothing being said and random non sequiturs or nonexistent statements being referenced. I just have no idea why such an ai would exist and I refuse to believe these are the cognitive thoughts of a human who talks to other humans lol", "Land of the rich. Anyone else can just fuck right off...\n\nOf all the ~>200 countries in the world US is well within my top ten countries I would not want to live in.\n\nI am even hesitant going there for vacation.", "I think the point that people are making which you seem to be intentionally missing, is that having the video does not immediately solve the problem. These people still could take years to see any justice done for crap like this which is done to them illegally. Yes it's good to have the video but that doesn't mean the problem is fixed.", "The video doesn’t solve the problem. But it’s a very necessary step. \n\nIf you think I thought the video solves the problem, you assumed too much.", "I just feel you have more of a chance to look the part of you are not a person of color. As you can see he made an effort to dress nice, be presentable and speak with dignity and intention. If a blonde hair blue eyed young man did the same he’s gonna walk right out of that courtroom home free it’s as simple as that. \n\nLet me give you some perspective. My best friend is a blonde haired blue eyed guy from Lithuania. I love him to death but he’s a bit of an under achiever. Dropped out of high school to party. Started selling cocaine for a while and got busted but his brother took the blame and got a slap on the wrist. 128 hours community service. Anywho, he just got a job making 100 grand a year with no high school diploma and a telecom company. The guy just liked him in the interview.", "Bit of rain every now and then never hurt anyone, but a shitstorm everyday beats a man down, randy.", "Don't get brazen with me", "Netflix's \"Making a Murderer\" confirms this.", "Nice story bro. Not an AI here but thanks for trying. Maybe you’re used to being wrong and like it? Or maybe just can’t understand the not-even-deep points I’ve been making and want to chalk up the disagreement as being due to something you can’t understand without admitting it.", "Lmao. I don't know, sometimes the human mind isn't always so easy to relate to for various reasons.", "You literally don’t even need to know what the defendant did. This is truly disgusting and anyone in the US should be afraid of this", "Of course it’s fucking Utah.", "This should carry a life sentence for defense, judge, and prosecutor. They're scum", "Yup and Utah sucks especially bad.", "It is a necessary step but in reality it's not enough. This man had to plead guilty to a DUI crime he likely didn't commit because of America's poor justice system. And as of now he's been fighting a battle trying to prove what this video clearly shows which is him getting a corrupt trial. Do you seriously not understand that? Video doesn't do Jack shit if everything else is fucked up? Jesus Christ", "I always say \"If I had to choose between going to the US or China, I'd flip a coin and hope for China - At least they have an interesting culture\" - Pisses Americans off to no end but it's the damn truth.", "Corruption is the worst crime someone can commit. It corrodes society in ways that are hard to reverse and injures everyone living in a community long after the criminals are gone. It is about the only crime I think the punishment should be the death penalty.", "i miss Carlin shows :(", "You know where he didn't make the effort? Showing up on fucking time. Even he, himself, says he showed up late. It sounds like he did that even after the court warned him that if he continued to show up late, he would be issued a bench warrant for FTA. Yet, in spite of that, he still showed up late again. Is that a product of his race, too? Stop using a single anecdotal story to justify your view of an entire system, it's a lot more complicated than that. \n\n\nThe big glaring problem here is the PD conspiring with the prosecutor instead of attempting to protect his client. Quit making it about race, because it isn't. The dude showed up late and the PD was sick of it -- regardless, conspiring with the opposing side in a court case is a criminal act and he should be punished.", "So you didn't watch the video.", "Or didn’t do, something innocent until proven guilty", "Want to know the truly scary thing? The US is a very wealthy country. \n\nStrictly speaking, what we’re seeing is actually a good thing- in many parts of the world, this sort of stuff doesn’t come to light at all. I don’t think there is a country in the world where you don’t have abuses occur when those in power are under limited or no oversight.\n\nMiscarriages of justice thrive in environments where a cover up is easy to engineer. You can find those environments in very wealthy countries just as easily as poor ones- all you need is a judge who wields near absolute power over their courtroom, a prosecutor with wide discretion, and a defense attorney who has little genuine incentive to defend their client. \n\nIt’s good for people to see that corruption can happen in plain sight- now if only they’d stop thinking it was just something that only occurs in one country.", "I dont understand why anyone is defending this guy. He's in court for a DUI. He drinks and then drives. Then he has no respect for the consequences which include going to court and getting there on time. 9:08 is not on time for a 9 o'clock court date.\n\nFuck this drunk driving, showing up late, piece of shit.\n\nHe even has the nerve to make follow up videos where he says that when they call in several people for a 9:00 court appearance it isn't \"late\" to be there at 9:15. Bullshit. Wake your ass up and be sitting in that chair when they call your name. It's not a social event to be fashionably late to. It's a court appearance for a dangerous DUI charge.", "It doesn’t matter what time he got there. They don’t let him in until 9. They called his case before he could physically enter the court.", "If your court time is 9:00am, be there at 8:00am.", "Okay... I'm down with this. Let's change a lot of the way the system works moving forward.", "I said as much haha", "Depending on when dude's grandparents emigrated, it may have been a good move. Specifically between 1939 and 1945.", "American here, don’t hesitate at all. Go somewhere else. We don’t want you here if you’re just going to shit on the place we live.", "I live in northwest Pennsylvania in the USA. It's cold rainy and snowy from the end of October till mid May.\n\nI wish it was only nov-feb. I'd much rather have yours.", "Weird, I don't see how that would piss an American off at all.", "Judges in general; elected and appointed, are a downfall of the American democratic system. The Judicial is the balance between the Executive and the Legislative and the Judicial have taken the lowest road possible. They release violent criminals to keep the jails full of non-violent therefor easier inmates. Jails should only be used to house violent criminals or those that refuse to appear in court. All other crimes should be bail/OR/home incarceration. \nKeep Violent offenders away from the general public. Help the rest.", "Because despite what you may think, he still has a right to a fair and just process. The idea that an accusation of a crime is justification to deny someone their rights is patently absurd.", "So you didn't make comments that leave you looking like a fucking idiot?", "2:59 he walks in with a group of people standing outside when they open the door at 9:05. He said he walked in at 9:08. Even if you had your face smashed against the door when they opened it you are still late by whatever crazy standards they’re using.", "You don't even know if he was drinking and driving, that's the point of the court case. They've hid or destroyed all the video evidence of his arrest and then they did this to try and force him into pleading guilty before he has a trial. But you want to condemn him based on what? The word of the people whose lies have now been caught on camera, and who've destroyed all the footage that could've helped them prove he was guilty?", "It doesn't matter what his alleged crimes are. He could be on trial for pedophilia. The fact of the matter is it is not yet determined whether or not he is guilty of the crime, nor would it matter if he were. \n\nYou don't get to run a kangaroo court and conspire to throw him in jail. To state the obvious, if it were you on trial, you wouldn't want this to happen to you, would you? \n\nIf 8 minutes late is an unacceptable amount of time to be late, fine. Issue a warrant for his arrest for showing up 8 minutes late if anything. As a defense lawyer, you're obliged to defend someone to the best of your ability, and as a judge, you're obliged to be an unbiased third party. Multiple federal laws were broken here..", "The U.S. has the best criminal justice system money can buy.", "Hey now, don't question his motives, he's not on trial. 😉", "If you can't afford a decent attorney in the US you get screwed.", "Yeah I would advise against coming to the USA right now…", "The cops dashcam was conveniently malfunctioning when the arrest was made and the individual has maintained his innocence through 5 years of court proceedings. From my experience with law enforcement, I'm inclined to believe him.\n\nYour knee-jerk reaction is pretty funny, to say the least (maybe pathetic is the word?). \"Showing up late, piece of shit\" is really the icing on the cake.", "No one is defending him lol. They're mad that a supposedly fair justice system failed him as his lawyers were against him.\n\nEveryone deserves to be represented to the highest level in order to maintain standards. A+ defence lawyers require A++ prosecution to win the case, as it should be. Not F defence with C- prosecution.", "See the crowd in the court steadily growing from the start of the video? All those people are on time or early. It’s not like they locked the doors and opened them at 9:05…", "Fuck you dude. Everyone deserves a fair trial. He hasn’t been convicted of anything, and is presumably fighting the charge.\n\nIf he’s found guilty, he made a mistake, and can pay the penalty. Fuck off asshole.", "At 2:59 in the video they let everyone in at 9:05. This appears to be an evidence video created by a legal team.", "I mean, why? Lmao, in the US at least you can be critical of corruption. I’m not a fan of the US at all, but people equating it to China are off their rockers, you have people who are being paid to watch for bad/good deeds (that are not illegal) to rank your social credit score. What the fuck.", "Don’t think they would know what a trial is for", "Because the DUI in question is very suspicious and has been being fought for YEARS, with some seriously suspicious crap being down by LEOs and the court that seems to point at corrupt shit like this. But even if he murdered someone, this would still be a point to defend him on. Seeing this kind of corruption should infuriate you, because there is no way in hell this kind of shit hasn’t been done by these people before. Its an violation of our rights and a vile act.", "this is horse shit", "When we live in a garbage heap, shitting on it isn’t that big of a deal", "Then why does everyone try to copy American culture then if it's not interesting? I'm not saying Chinese culture isn't interesting at all but what about China currently is better in your opinion? And why do we have so many damn tourists ???", "Well it provides context to the situation. Normally people don't comment on the results of a video they haven't watched since they really wouldn't know what's going on.", "If you ever have to ask yourself \"Am I the idiot?\", the answer is yes.", "they are not defending the guy, rather the right for a fair trial where your defender defends you as the law requires, wether you show up or not. you should be defending this right too.", "Denmark got through WWII pretty unscathed, even if you were Jewish, as most survived by being brought to Sweden before anything happened.\n\nMany look unfavorably on the Danish cooperation strategy of the time, but if you look at it with cold hard pragmatic eyes, it was the best move for Denmark who didn’t stand a chance against the German army.\n\nIt meant the Danish government kept control for as long as they could, and in turn, that very few Jews were deported or killed. Eventually the Germans got fed up and took control, but the end of the war wasn’t far away by then.\n\nNot a very heroic course of action, but it worked in favor of Denmark.\n\nEDIT: People really didn't like me pointing out that Denmark specifically got through WWII pretty unscathed. Sure it sucked to be under the Nazi thumb, but if you had to pick a spot in Europe to be in if you didn't get out in time, Denmark would be at the top... About the same amount of civilians in Denmark died during the full 5-year occupation as did in 9/11.", "I couldn't figure it out either haha, their posts are completely inane but with so much confidence", "America has a lot of flaws, but it's much harder to simply disappear you, and if you catch it like here the state can't shut down the media.", "Court system is demonstrably biased against people of color. It’s been proven again and again. Yes he was late but more than one thing can be happening at once", "You regret an action somebody else took? Very noble of you. You’re more than welcome to go back", "While you are correct he was a few minutes late, his lawyer had them call his case before he was scheduled to be in court. If you don't have to be there until 7, it's inappropriate to call the case at 6:45.", "He's on trial for DUI, he hasn't been convicted. If I accuse you of pedophilia, does that automatically make it true?", "The fucking glee these pieces of shit have over fucking a guy out of his freedom, seemingly all because they wanted their jobs to be easier.", "are you 100 percent sure of that?", "Oh hell yeah, this is a state where adoption agencies and the state actively conspire to deny father's their children.", "Because it's horribly illegal to do such things?\n\nAnd Rittenhouse, as jarring as it is, got the result he deserved. Full acquittal since it was proven beyond a reasonable doubt that he was defending himself in every encounter.\n\nIt just bugs people because he killed 2 people and seriously injured a third and 'Got away with it'. He didn't get away with anything. He just defended himself. It's just the law.", "Sure, but irrelevant. We strive to have fair trials for reasons that have nothing to do with whether or not someone is a POS.", "I got arrested for a (non violent) felony in a county with a reputation for doing stuff like this, so I went out of my way to hire an attorney NOT from that county. I must be the luckiest bastard alive because he used to be the DA in that county and switched to defense years ago. So he knew the judge well, and the current prosecutor and he advised me to skip the first plea bargain and take the second. I got to see him talking to everybody from a distance in the courtroom before accepting the second plea. I got 4 years probation when realistically, I should have expected at least 2 years time. Everyone going over the papers that I had to sign before leaving did a double take like \"that can't be right.\"\n\nBut if I didn't have the money, I would have been at the mercy of those bastards and probably would have gone to prison.", "Until the Gulf Stream fails. Then Northern Europe will slip back into an ice age.", "The US has a credit score as well that limits what you can do 😂 never worked on your credit score? Good luck buying a home. There's a reason we see panicked posts about credit scores on /personal finance all the time.\n\nRight now there's a video on the frontpage showing the justice of the US courts.\n\nThe US had a stroke because a football player kneeled during the anthem.\n\nI could keep going but I usually keep these \"make Americans mad that Europeans don't hold their country in high esteem\" sessions to my livestreams - have a good one.", "Unless that mistake cost someone their life. And drunk driving isn’t a mistake: you knowingly go out, get shitfaced, and go driving. There’s no mistake there\n\n\nNobody is behind the wheel like “why am I driving like this? I wonder if its cause I drank fireball washed down with Jack & Coke", "The BAR association is a union and the Government allows it to capture the regulator.", "Judge, defense and prosecution probably had this agreement over drinks before this day ever started.", "Roll out the meatgrinders. Anyone know a company that sales giant hoppers?", "It didn’t cost anyone their life", "There's a lot of uninformed people in this chat making a lot of assumptions without any information other than a clearly prejudiced video.", "Yeah, boot lickers rarely see the point in fair representation and rights. Pretty standard with you losers.", "So fair. Much justice. Very freedom.", "Not absurd if you're a boot licking conservative.", "Don't want to risk learning anything, huh? Shit can be dangerous.", "Watching this jangles my basnangels", "??? Thats not how it works. If someone dies. You still deserve a fair trial.", "I noticed how you conveniently ignored the fact that he was declared late and had a warrant issued a full 15 minutes before he was even scheduled to arrive. He could have shown up at 8:55 and would still have been arrested, so the whole 8 minutes late claim is utter bullshit.", "You're a piece of shit boot licker.", "In That case, great! It easily very well could’ve though, someone could’ve gotten seriously injured or worse. Dude’s a POS for drunk driving, that’s not a mistake", "Abd you dont know who the 'sick fuck' is. Pot meet kettle.", ">I am even hesitant going there for vacation.\n\nwhy the fuck would you come to us of all places in the world for a vacation?\n\n20% non negotiable tips? expensive? you have to pay for air literally(on gas station)?", "As infuriating as this is\n\nThis guy was arrested for DUI.\n\nHe did it, he was guilty, but didn't want to plead guilty. Because that's the game everyone plays. Admit nothing, look for every possible loophole, etc. Don't accept responsibility and consequences for your mistakes, try to get out of it.\n\nI have limited sympathy for him.\n\nHowever I wish this would lead to those dishonest judge and attorneys being disbarred. Disgraceful.", "Sure we do!\n\nYou’re a fucking idiot!", "That was from last year and absolutely nothing happened to anyone. But in the court's defense the man was latino and also being a Latino male we are unworthy of a fair day in court. Hell we are lucky to be even considered human.", "The whole point of the trial was him trying to prove he wasn't drinking and driving. He was trying to get video evidence of the incident which somehow wasn't available. But yes I agree drinking and driving is completely reckless.", "Lmao case closed. This video is overwhelming", "And you don't know who the guy in the video is.", "Seriously? Grow up.", "Nice logic. If they plead innocent, they must be guilty?", "1. He did plead guilty\n1. There are not a lot of ways to get falsely arrested for DUI", "> of justice thrive in environments where a cover up is easy to engineer. You can find those environments in very wealthy countries just as easily as poor ones- all you need is a judge who wields near absolute power over their courtroom, a prosecutor with wide discretion, and a defense attorney who has little genuine incentive to defend their client.\n\nYou have some mythical idea about how bad countries go about detaining people. They literally just \"Disappeared\" Mr. Sanchez. They invented charges so they could remove him from the public. Just because our news doesn't call it a US Labor Camp, does not mean it's not that.", "In America you have people being payed to imprison you or murder you for whatever reason they feel like. I think they call them the police. I'll take a negative social credit score over death or jail for sure.", "Because judge and lawyer", "Remember this. If you have a Public Defender, everyone in the courtroom but you, are being paid by the government to be there.", "Of course drunk driving is terrible. But he *hadn't been convicted of doing that.* He's innocent until proven guilty, which means they are conspiring against an innocent person.", "In the grand scheme of things this might not be the greatest violation of justice but there's something so pernicious about the court's behavior here. There are many overzealous prosecutors, incompetent attorneys, harsh and biased judges but openly conspiring to flaunt the rules that give the entire process legitimacy is beyond the pale.\n\nThere's a certain amount of buy in that is necessary for the legal system to work, if the very people who make up that system openly shit on its principles I cannot blame anyone for doing whatever they can get away with. One potential takeaway for the little guy: if you're a juror and are reluctantly convinced that a defendant is guilty, just vote to acquit, this veneer of justice is a joke to the court anyway (as with these fuckers just laughing about throwing a man in jail).\n\nNow, this is a single court in Utah but if the rest of the system ignores cases like this, this is yet another reason for malicious noncompliance at every other opportunity.", "The general idea is that if you have a public defender, it’s because you can’t afford counsel. There isn’t a choice. \n\nAlso, many areas assign indigent defense to private practice attorneys who bill the county. These setups are different than a “Public Defender’s Office” where a full blown county salary and benefits are involved.", "😂 products aren't culture.", "The road to hell is lined with good intentions, the ideas in your comment puts you halfway there.", ">America has a lot of flaws, but it's much harder to simply disappear you, and if you catch it like here the state can't shut down the media.\n\nTell that to all the people locked up like this guy. While people may know where you are, you are still disappeared from your normal life in jail, trying to post bond.", "Nah I'm gonna keep living here and shitting on it.", "This is so ridiculous I’m not even sure if it is real.", "Half the country is guilty of corruption lol", "yeah, lol. You are literally responding to one, lmao. There is nothing absurd to a conservative about denying people their rights.", "You clearly have no idea how our legal system is supposed to work. Maybe take some time to read about what a fair and speedy trial is and then shut the fuck up.", "He's in court and has **been accused** of DUI. You don't have to respect somebody to respect the fact that *everyone* has rights. If you allow one person's to be ignored, then more will be ignored as a consequence. People are entitled to a fair trial, and they are entitled to be found guilty or not guilty at a fair trial.", "I have never seen a mandatory tip at any restaurant ever. Excluding parties of 8 or more. \n\nMany gas stations offer free air now after certain chains started offering it. \n\nThere are even car washes w free vacuums. \n\nIf you're going to pick on the USA at least do it right.", "Reddit in a nutshell sadly.", "Critical video footage? \n\nBlood draw, breathalyzer... those are critical. Video is never critical in a DUI case. Dash cam won't show guilt or innocence beyond a reasonable doubt.", "This happens to poor people in general, regardless of race.\n\nThe legal system is notoriously corrupt and sets poor people up to fail all the time.", "Yeah but letting out violent offenders gives you lots of karma points on reddit. What else are you going to do? Pay actual money for Reddit gold?", "I noticed how you conveniently ignored my original post where I said the conspiring between the agents of the court is a crime and should be prosecuted?", "Damn, she had no problem helping this pedo but someone who's actually innocent gets conspired against. \n\n>Defense attorney Heather Chestnut said after the hearing that she intends to file an appeal relative to the definition of child pornography in Utah, saying that the pictures of the children aren’t considered pornographic under state law.\n\n>Hatfield had stuck photos of children — some clothed, some naked — onto pages pasted with photos of adult pornography and sexual language, she said.\n\n>She argued that the photos of nude children — some of which she said came from art books, design books, photography books — wouldn’t be considered pornographic outside of the scrapbook. (For example, she said, a parent’s photo of a child in a bathtub isn’t considered pornographic).\n\n>“No children were sexually abused or exploited in any way to make these other than that their images maybe appeared on their pages,” she said.\n\nThe guy was \"assembling homemade scrapbooks containing pornography and pictures of naked children and bringing them to school, where he reportedly masturbated between classes.\"\n\n\n[Source](https://www.sltrib.com/news/2018/05/01/things-escalated-and-spiraled-into-a-dark-place-former-utah-teacher-sentenced-to-prison-for-bringing-homemade-pornography-scrapbooks-to-middle-school-classroom/)", "I remember seeing this when it first happened and this is a good video that goes over all the facts. I also remember reading that no one in this case is fully innocent...this is because Mr. Sanchez WAS late...he then admitted he was late and it was obvious as he walked in after 9. His lawyer had told him to be 15 mins early, so when the case was coming up instead of defending him....the public defender threw him under the bus. It sucks that he walks in at 907 and is ignored until the Judge announces the warrant for his arrest...but he was late. They told him his case time, and the public defender told him to be there early. They had already decided to move over to the next case if he wasn't present at his scheduled court time...which he wasn't. Would this have happened to a rich client, most likely not...they would have patiently waited for him at that point. Its a class issue as others have said. He can fight this...but as you know everything is court relies on harsh technicalities and I dont think he has a case because he WAS late. FYI....I am not a Lawyer, just watched a video and read some opinions a few months ago. So let me know if I am wrong!", "all of them should be fired", ".. but they do that as well in China. You can’t speak out against the CCP, or you risk jail, re-education, death.\n\nThe thing you just said about the police in the US, say that in public in China about the party and you’re fucked.", "Hopefully there will be since the guy is suing.", "Making a comment on reddit is doing absolutely nothing. You could have not made that comment and you would have achieved the samething.", "Yeah, if you want to pick on the USA you should be worried about unmasked and unvaccinated guys running around with guns shooting dissenters", "I don't even want my plane to stop there on the way to literally anywhere but the USA.", "So their trick worked. He spent two weeks in jail due to this, which then forced him to plead guilty as he was in financial trouble due to the bond and missing work. \n\nA miscarriage of justice for sure.", "Because there was a video", "I don't believe a word of this", "Breathalyzer tests produce receipts. There does not have to be video evidence that he was under the influence. There is paperwork that shows his blood alcohol level.", "im in the us right now, all of this shit happened in a span of few weeks.\n\nsure, no tip is mandatory and i was wrong to write that, but 2 weeks ago, i was in a restaurant that automatically added 20% tip, and there was a line for Additional tip", "Exactly. That's why they are going to get away with it.", "I’m european lol.\n\nThe US is shitty, but still miles ahead of China. There’s a massive difference between credit score and social credit score. \n\nYes, and we don’t get to see that video in China, not because it doesn’t happen, but because they suppress flow of information.", "Yo look at their comment history. Video games, naked women and hot chud takes\n\nThe reactionary trifecta", "Corruption knows no political affiliation. Your tribalistic bleating is tiresome.", "People aren't defending the guy, they're defending his right to a fair trial.", "And the repercussions?", "We have some of the best national parks. The natural beauty of these areas is awe inspiring and highly recommend checking them out if you have the opportunity", "When the destination is this huge, if it’s true somewhere, it might as well be true everywhere. \n \nAs an American, where’s this free air you talking about? If I guess a state I’ve a 2% chance to guess right.", "Update on the guys GoFundMe Page from August 21.\n\n>14 August 2021\nby Luis Sanchez, Organiser\nThank you so much for all your help and support! I am beyond grateful and amazed at the amount of support I have received.\n\n>The lawsuit continues advancing thanks to you!\n\n>I have been in contact with an attorney that will be taking video depositions of the attorneys and the director of Salt Lake Legal Defender Association (“SLLDA”).\n\n>It will be interesting to see how they all attempt to justify their actions. I need to know why Richard Mauro, the director of SLLDA, did nothing after I reported the incident.\n\n>I have been investigating another case of misconduct by another public defender that may be able to prove that what happened to me is not an isolated event. I will soon be reporting my findings of the investigation and will also go deeper into the inactions of SLLDA in addressing complaints of misconduct by their attorneys.\n\n>It may be an illegal pattern of behavior that SLLDA takes part of while representing their clients.\n\n>The lawsuit will likely go to trial. The attorneys and Salt Lake Legal Defender Association refuse to accept any responsibility for what they did.\n\n>Know that no amount of money they offer will persuade me to give up my determination to seek justice and to evoke change.\n\n>Multiple times SLLDA tried to force me to remove the video from the internet. First by way of a settlement agreement and then by court order. But I fought and here we are. It is a very powerful and distinct determination when you know you’re doing something for a cause that is grater than you.\n\n>This case of corruption allows us to see the government for what it truly is. I have vast amounts of evidence showing the corruption or at minimum gross incompetence by police officers, pd records department, public defenders, the courts, the Utah State Bar Association, and the Attorney General’s office. With so much evidence and after being reported to multiple agencies, nothing has been done. Nothing.\n\n>These agencies receive millions of dollars by way of compulsory taxation. They take a significant amount of people’s income before a person ever sees that money. The government’s sole purpose for existing is to protect us. The institution of government is not only failing at protecting but it now has turned into a tool of oppression and victimization.\n\n>We need to hold corrupt officials accountable. We need to demand it. We can’t let our society deteriorate even more.\n\n>With all this said, I believe I have been targeted by the Unified Police Department. I will soon be releasing a video where the UPD unlawfully pulls over my car while a female friend was driving and I was the passenger. This occurred in April of this year. You will see the interaction and will understand why I believe I may be facing retaliation.\n\n>Nonetheless, I will continue doing my part in exposing these agencies in my attempt to evoke change. I will go as far as I can. I don’t know what may happen to me in the end but I am willing to face the consequences.\n\n>In anticipation for trial I have increase the amount of money I seek in this gofundme campaign.\n\n>I will periodically be posting updates on the lawsuit.\n\n>Again, thank you for your support and for allowing me to continue seeking change and justice.", "this is fair. the rittenhouse trial was a pretty serious failure on the part of the left.\n\nthat being said the trial was insane. not even a gun charge.", "Or Cash for Kids", "Oh, you don't get it. That's media, not the way people really think. Agenda driven nonsense that most people recognize as such. Don't be a tool.", "Lock em up", "I hope you get downvoted to oblivion. Did you even watch the video? He has maintained his innocence for 5 years. He wanted video footage of that night to prove his innocence, and they unlawfully withheld it from him. \n\nHe has a right to due process.", "How many other countries have you been to?", "Did you see mention of any of those in the trial?", "Are we not even gonna talk about the front falling off??", "I'm sorry what?", "Thought I was reading DJT's Twitter account for a second.", "You dont need dash cam footage to do a breathalyzer test. The equipment even prints q receipt with the results. He had to have blown hot to get the DUI. They don't just give out DUIs for fun because they are bored.", "Afghanistan, iraq, mexican children. Is that media as well?", "Hand held breathalyzers are notoriously unreliable. Their results should only be used as justification to pull someone off the road, not as evidence in court.", "I doubt it pisses off many Americans. It made me roll my eyes and want to pat you on the head \"OK Hammer, yup!\"\n\nThe only reason you think we don't have culture is that our culture was stolen by you. You watch our movies and television, listen to our music on our computers/hardware via the Internet we created and maintain. Of course it feels generic to you.\n\nAmerica is all kinds of broken, but come on dude. When you say things like that you come off as ether uninformed, or edge-lordy.", "They don't let people in until 9 dumbass. The defense called the case before they let ANYONE in. Only after 9 did they start letting people in. And he wasn't known to be late, it was the defense's attorney that was known to have been late, the defendant showed up on time just like he did in this case. He was outside the doors at 9 and because of overcrowding made it in at 9:07. That is plenty reasonable. \n\n\nWhat do you want the defendant to do, if your court time is 9:00 break in at 8:00 instead of wait outside the court at 9:00?", ">He had to have blown hot to get the DUI.\n\nThen why deny him a fair trial?", "All the numbers in your comment added up to 69. Congrats!\n\n 9 +\n 9 +\n 9 +\n 9 +\n 7 +\n 9 +\n 8 +\n 9 +\n = 69.0", "That's common. They have sessions so you have to be there when it starts. They have a list of names on the docket and run through it so you could be first or last so you could be out in 10 minutes or be stuck there all morning.\n\nUsually there's people outside the courtroom too and people go out to use the washroom and such so him being a few minutes late is only bad if they call his case first.\n\nThis video shows clear conspiracy between the Judge, the prosecution, and his own defense before the session even started. Everything about this is so unethical and unjust. He was screwed from the minute he walked in the door.", "Yeah dude, what could possibly go wrong by allowing lawyers to backstab their own clients?", "That’s not correct…", "Why? Why would so many people risk their careers for what must be just a petty case, to fuck over a no-body.. Why? \n\n\nedit: found this in Sanzhes go-fundme: *I have been investigating another case of misconduct by another public defender that may be able to prove that what happened to me is not an isolated event.* \n\n\nSo, they do this all the time.", "Just block him. Trolls on both sides...", "> They literally just \"Disappeared\" Mr. Sanchez. They invented charges so they could remove him from the public. \n\nDespite that, while it isn't always caught, *here it is on tape* in front of us, and *the government can't tell the press or individuals not to air it.*", "Hopefully this was reported to the bar", "You've got some great sights and for the most part great people?", "I didn't ignore it. I'm not arguing that point as I agree with you on it. \n\nThe guys race is also irrelevant. My point is that the actions and the timing of the conspiracy renders your complaint of him being 8 minutes late, completely moot.", "DISGUSTING", "Yeah but there are billions of me!", "Complaining about his comment doesn't help.\n\nYou could try being positive and suggest ways that he might be able to realistically do that.", "And public defenders are grossly underpaid, overworked, and there’s zero incentive to get more lawyers because the public doesn’t give a shit. “why should our taxes pay to defend criminals?” they say.\n\nIt’s all a joke.", "This really needs to be upvoted for visibility.", "Is it though? American freedom is an illusion\n\nThe problem isn't that it's happening but that it isn't visible to the public?", "You're so close...", "It's both.", "No one is defending the guy. We are defending a fair trial practice.\n\nBecause if we stop caring if lawyers start deciding who is guilty or not, this will all go to shit pretty fast.", "“Where is better than the US?”", "No worries, mate.", "They were occupied by the Nazis for 5 years, no matter how you cut it.\n\nThat's a legit reason to leave, always.", "if you didnt get it yet, they are just saying whatever they want, lying, cheating, whatever, since they make the laws and nobody will do anything.", "Welcome to America. Don’t even get me started on how bail and the bond loan business works.", "While it isn't always caught, here is an example on tape in front of us, and *the government can't tell the press or individuals not to air it.*\n\nI'm not disagreeing with you about the terrible state of things. I'm addressing the false equivalence. Two things being bad doesn't make them equally bad, and it's dangerous to think that way.", "charged doesn't mean convicted numbnuts\n\npolice lock people up falsely for DUI all the time.", "You think theres only 2 sides?", "You literally cannot say that that is true until it has been decided in a court of law. Innocent proven guilty. The problem here is there is a process for proving that someone is guilty and it was not followed. If anything, if this person walks, it's the fault of these lawyers", "That's because there was no gun law he broke.", "You really don't like rights do you?", "You're not wrong but your reading comprehension is lacking. Read what I wrote about american culture again. You have culture, but it isn't interesting. \n\nThe snark is on point though, 10/10.", "If there was a video they would have gotten caught", "> There are not a lot of ways to get falsely arrested for DUI\n\nYou'd be surprised.\n\nFuck drunk drivers but also fuck corrupt legal representatives who can't do their jobs right.", "Except he's gonna get a ton of money when this lawsuit Goed through", "go to unpopular opinion, write down that tipping culture in US is stupid and you are not obligated to tip and see how quick you get mauled", "Could you help me get there?", "There was no gun law broken. He was legally allowed to possess the firearm. The law is pretty clear.", "Did you read products somewhere in my comment 😂? Hooked on Phonics is American. Maybe you'd be interested in that? How about TV, film, music?? 😂😂😂", "That’s not very typical, I’d like to make that point.", "No I mean I'm not tracking what point you're trying to make.", "Not gona lie. Ive been there a few times and not once did I feel safe.", "I do it on my livestreams all the time and it's hilarious. Just look at the reaction to my comment. Riles up everyone. The point gets proven every time when I then pivot to shitting on Sweden and no one cares.", "> He had to have blown hot to get the DUI\n\nYou have no idea what you're talking about. This isn't true.\n\nAll they need was a cop to say they think they have probable cause.", "Exactly. Like being late or absent more than once. I agree with your overall point, but this guy didn’t do himself any favors at all. Bad situation overall bc they were plotting to send him to jail, but imagine if he’d been there 15 minutes early instead of 10 minutes late?", "Do I also have basnangels?", "American \"culture\" is just consumption. The only culture we have is buying shit.", "But he had a lawyer provided by.... \n\n​\n\noh.", "Yeah this did not seem like their first time doing something as illegal as this.", "I know it's tragic and the result of a poor justice system.", "The fact that some kid can drive 20 mins from home get a gun and shoot people is what I don't fucking get. Everybody in the fucking case sucked donkey dick. But the legal framework is such that if you put yourself in a dangerous situation you can just start blastin'. The right decision was made but it still sucks.", "For a DUI no less. A night in the drunk tank and hefty fines/loss of license is the usual go-to for DUIs. Not loss of rights, or multiple days in jail. He didn't kill or injure anyone. This is absolutely disgusting, and I'm ashamed of the justice system in this instance. And I'm a very strong believer in the justice system, where everyone from petty theft to murderous serial killers should all get due process and all are INNOCENT until *proven* GUILTY", "Not hand held breath tests, calibrated intoxilyzer machines.", "Considering you posted this 10 days ago :\n\n> If it's important enough for the media to specify that 3 white men killed a black man, it is just as important to specify that a black man killed 6 white people.\n\nThen I can see you’re an enlightened centrist", "Does it? Maybe. I don’t know Utah law, but it is at least relevant. There is a consensus that he is chronically late. The judge issued a warrant for him being late (albeit too early, and due to the impropriety of his counsel) - However, he is indeed late. The judge certainly could have suspended the warrant if he showed up within the next few minutes, but he did not. It’s certainly arguable, depending on Utah’s laws — it is definitely not “moot”.", "I'm definitely not lol. Can you explain it?", "Pretty sure he’s already arrested if he’s in court", "Who on the left was arguing he shouldn’t have a fair trial?\n\nPeople thought he was guilty, no one was suggesting he shouldn’t get a trial or that the prosecution should conspire with the defense to get a conviction.\n\nWhat world are you living in that these situations are remotely comparable?", "That’s OK, I name isn’t what anyway.", "The first part of solving a problem is admitting you have a problem and that you want to solve it.", "But there is a video. It's the one this post is about. Did you not watch it?", "Well... did you feel something jangle?", "They need their freedoms stolen away from them like they tried to do, or did do, to this man. They need to be fired, jailed, and barred from ever even speaking about law, let alone practice it. \n\nPersonally, since what they did was lie, I’d have all their tongues cut out. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.", "Keyboard activism is just frustrating. Seeing people say \"Alright let's fix this\" then proceed to scroll to the next reddit post....is just...performative? No one cares beyond the length of time is takes to view the post. If I did suggest what they could do to help...would they actually do it? Most likely not. Because people know what they have to do to make change.\n\n \nUnless youre actively talking/protesting/being involved with members of government youre doing nothing. A comment in a thread on a reddit post is a scream into the void.", "I have no idea what you're trying to say.", "Yeah people seem to think you can try to smash a guys head in with a skateboard and try to steal his gun as well as shove your own gun in his face because he is open carrying. You can't do that. Not even if you really don't like their personal politics.", "honestly never felt so disappointed by the left than the kyle case.\n\npeople have to be very fucking careful in the USA right now, the whole left vs right shit is getting to the point where facts of the matter don't really mean anything anymore.\n\nmain stream media and social media being able to present almost everything out of context is causing a worrying amount of brainless tribalism.", "> Everything is about race when you're a racist. \n\nOh great, you're one of those people.", "Ok.... I don’t believe you.", "I think you missed the joke.", "Hi Katherine", "If you're really rich it's better to live in the US - you can get away with a lot and you're more or less protected. In China no matter how wealthy you are you still need to obey those in power.\n\nOn the other hand if you're not super rich in the US nobody will \"disappear\" you, because they don't have to. You will get murdered in a home invasion, random mugging on a street, commit suicide or just go missing. It happens to so many people that hardly anyone will really question it.\n\nThe only difference will be that it will be all over news until a new better topic is picked, but you will be just as dead.", ">pedophilia\n\nChild molestation//abuse/rape", "Christ, if that were me I would make both of them suffer extreme pain.", "Oh. Why would I lie to you?", "It's lucky that Sanchez seems to be pretty clued up about what they were trying here, knows to ask questions that expose their lies.", "You don't have to be a centrist to want a fair justice system.", "Nah, it is total impunity. They just make a show of it otherwise.\n\nWell, as long as you don't steal from the other rich anyway, then you're fucked.", "That is dirty.\n\nHis attorney is a rat.", "You're right but this is the worst comment section to be talking about anything good regarding America.", "The confusion is the point.", "Yeah, everyone acting like it isn't 1000% in character is hilarious.", "I always expect people to talk out of their ass when I'm on reddit, I never take anything anyone has to say here seriously, it makes life easier.", "Your entire argument hinges on assumptions you're making about a person you know nothing about. Which means it's a weak as fuck argument.", "Trolls everywhere?", "LMAO, I bet you think we have a right and a left in the US too.", "America is a proper shithole.", "No", "Tell Me you didn't watch the video without telling me you didn't watch the video.", "Minors are allowed to be in possession of a firearm? Since when?", "lolwut", "The American justice system at it's worst. Lawyers that don't give a shit about their clients and judges that want to reduce their workload. Pretty fucking thankful I live in Australia - our justice system can fuck up and be corrupt, but nowhere near to the revolving door American system that only lets you go if you can afford a good attorney (or a white conservative college kid...)", "He does have the right to be late or absent from his court appearances. Then he has rhe right to remain silent while they arrest him for contempt.", "Oof can someone get the list for burn centers nearby??", "Not to be confused with the big club they use to beat you over the head on a regular basis.", "I like how this is always a thing. \n\nI'd love to move to Denmark, where people are freer than they are here. Unfortunately, I can't just make the move on a whim.", "He had a bench warrant issued against him for something he had not done. His own attorney called the case **before he was scheduled to arrive** and the court then used his absence as justification to issue the warrant. Nothing else is relevant.", "This is the answer right here.", "Rules for thee but not for me.", "How am I not surprised that this happened in Utah? Before I get any pitchforks my way, I grew up there till I was 26. I know the bullshit they pull like this.", "What front?", "Way to not understand my post, type a wall, and manage to misspell trial every single time. The trifecta.", "ETAH in that case", "Bro. They said the case was at 9. They determined the outcome at 845. It didn’t matter if his lawyer told him to be there 15 min early. The court judged the case 15 minutes before the defendant was required to show up. Everything after that Is moot. It doesn’t matter if he’s late when they already make the determination 15 minutes before he’s supposed to be there. He could have been there 5 minutes early and he was still fucked.", "You have no idea what you're talking about.", "None of this would make it okay to stop someone from having a fair trail.", "He wouldn’t be in court if he wasn’t already arrested and charged. Pretty sure OP means convicted", "Because reddit believe \"tHe LaW is bRoKeN.\" Sure, I don't agree with all of it, and I'm sure there are corrupt police. The fact of the matter is its not all black and white, not all cops are bad, and the majority of laws exist for a good reason. The US and reddit are just on a LE circle jetk because they want someone to point all their frustrations at. \n\nWhat do I know? I was only a CO for a County Jail for 4 years. I don't even know why I'm writing this, shits just gonna get down voted to oblivion anyways.", "A boot licking conservative one full of false equivalences.", "You're completely missing the point here. The point is that a judge and defense attorney lied under oath. Who gives a fuck about a DUI these shit head judges and attorneys are the true criminals here. Fuck 12", "This is straight up EVIL! All of those people should be fired and arrested for this bs.", "Since a specific exception (3) (c) is written into law saying that minors older than 16 can carry rifles with a barrel length no less than 16 inches. The rifle he had has an advertised length of 16 inches.", "im canadian and even i know he wasnt allowed to have that gun as a minor.", "Go get arrested in North Korea then get back to us lol", "Please tell me they all got disbarred", "The pretend outrage over a person no one here has met or knows the scenario to, is hilarious.\nThe guy, piece of shit not, should have a fair trial and representation.\nAll these crybaby “GET HIM! HES THE ENEMY” Reddit bitches would probably like a respectable lawyer defending them, but hey, they’re part of the mob, and no one in a mob ever has it turn on them, only to need the basic rights they were throwing full diapers at previously…. So burn it all down baby!! It’s the useless ones turn at the wheel! (As long as it’s electric)", "How petty are you man?", "> in the US at least you can be critical of corruption.\n\nYou mean report on military rapes and get suicided? Report on illegal murders made by military and get jailed? Be a sex trafficking organizer and commit suicide while in solitary confinement? Report on fracking poisoning the water and die due to hit and run before you are able to testify?", "Well done sir, I applaud you for your wit 👏", "Damn Jesus_Marley just got blasted for being a biased race baiting pos lol", "?", "If you have to ask then you’re streets behind.", "Not true. Where I am from the public defenders and prosecutors are NOT on the same team and do not work well together at all. Even on simple cases.", "I don't know man china is pretty nuts. We have our own problems in the states but I would never want to live in China.", "They had to drop a charge because the law wasn't clear, but yeah, let's go with your hot take...", "Hope he doesn't get the same lawyer", "\"We have investigated ourselves and found no wrong doing\".", "Oh then I definitely get it lol.", "Because there wasn’t much risk.", "Because nobody’s stopping you.", "Sure things may seem bad from a democracy stand point ... And we definitely need to keep fighting so corporations don't continue a compete capture ... But we currently do have more freedom of speech and a good mix of different cultures inside of America. They call us the melting pot for a reason. That's why I'm puzzled about picking China over America comment.", "I guess you got a point but you seem like a nice guy and I have no reason to lie to you.", "Can you help me catch up?", "You don’t get a public defender to sue the city. \n\nYou hire your own lawyer.", "An unscientific \"Field Sobriety Test\" and testimony from the arresting officer are all that's required to get a DUI conviction.\n\nYour take is atrocious.", "Or, how about maybe, you don't get put in jail for complying with your order to be there at 9AM", "I was one of those defense attorneys for 3 decades and there is some truth to allegations made by the narration in this video. BUT ... I have seen case after case after case just like this and when the judge has dockets of hundreds then everyone can't just \"trickle in at 9:08\" - especially numerous times. This video just watched Mr Sanchez the whole time so it's easy to mark specifics about his timing - that judge just called 200 on her morning dispo docket and the specifics of Mr. Sanchez's physical whereabouts were far from her mind. if YOU don't want stuff like this happening to you then make sure you are always at least 15 minutes early for court appearances ... NO EXCUSES. If you're there 10 minutes early then you're already late. \n\n\nAs for the discovery material ... thats a battle I fought for years with the DA's office and the judges. They do not (did not) routinely maintain all of the same physical evidence for misdemeanor cases that they do for felonies. Some Brady material often gets lost in this \"grind\" so I feel Sanchez's plight there. He should have NEVER had to file his own discovery motions or set them for hearings as he apparently had to do. Thats a matter of overcrowded and overworked employees trying to give the same due process to misdemeanors as felonies. Truth is ALL misdemeanor DUI's should have a diversion court procedure to alleviate the pressure. \n\n\nIn short - this video is incredibly biased against the Court and the attorneys with no explanation of the true context. It's an impossible job given the numbers and not being on time makes it so much worse.", "This is nothing. You want to read some really fucked up shit? Read “The Divide” by Matt Taibbi. He covers a whole bunch of cases of malpractice in the legal system.", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-QNAwUdHUQ", "Don't be a fucking boot licker. The law provides protection for ALL. doesn't matter if this guy is guilty, a pedo, a rapist. If the law bends for one, for another... It just might break.", "ok i accuse you of child abuse. its heinous so obviously you did it right? no need for a fair trial or anything?", "\"Awesome food\". Jesus.", "You are not wrong. It doesn't matter what they have done, everyone has a right to be presumed innocent until their day in court.", "The best thing about our country is the shit we havent fucked up yet.", "Oh that makes the whole system good again", "I know two public defenders, both got into it for altruistic reasons and are brilliant people who could be making tons of money at other jobs.", "Why do you think that? This is the reason why the charges were dropped:\n\nhttps://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/explainer-judge-drop-rittenhouse-gun-charge-81285031", "Are you hear to lick the shit off everyone's boots? Or just the crooked judge and attorneys?", "not the point stop nitpicking", "Hardly seems fair to the person when his own lawyer is working with the other side", "Do you listen to rock or rap music (even in your own language)? Wear blue jeans or watch Hollywood movies or drink coke?\n\nEven if you don’t personally, these are all massive cultural exports from the US. Some might be “products,” but I think that music, art, clothing, food, etc all qualify as culture.", "Why are you just making shit up lol? \n\n\nYou can literally see people filing into the gallery before 9 in this clip. \nHe also doesn't dispute that he had previously missed an appearance, been hours late for another - and been told that if he was late for this hearing he would have a warrant issued.", "What an elaborate marketing ploy from Netflix to promote JoJo Part 6 >!/s!<", "He appeared *on camera* at 9:08. As the video points out, the court room is full and people are forced to wait outside until there is room available. It is unknown if he was in the crowd at 9. \nHe is *on record* as being late to a court date only once over the course of five years.\n\nPS. He was not convicted of a DUI, and therefore you have no basis to say he \"was\" drinking while driving. Being accused of or arrested for something does not imply guilt.", "Privately own prisons... That is the problem, at the very start of this.", "The average chinese lives a perfectly ordinary life. I know a girl who lived there for 6 years and there wasnt much of a difference between her life in sweden and her life in china. \n\nAnd that's partly why I enjoy that statement so much because it shows just how ignorant the average person is of both china and america. \n\nChina has a horrible government, but china is a perfectly comfortable country to live in. America has a horrible government but is perfectly comfortable to live in by comparison. As long as you dont get sick, in which case, good luck with the morgage.", "No one is defending the guy, especially his attorney. You argue that what makes this video noteworthy is the defendant's degree of punctuality and your point misses the broadside of the barn.", "He's an apologist. \n\n\nHe's trying to imply its fine as long as you don't 'act out' on it...", "Disgusting\n\nAlso, why does he show up late though", "You literally just made a list of things that are purchased and consumed. Like I said American culture is just consumerism lol", ">They release violent criminals to keep the jails full of non-violent therefor easier inmates.\n\nGenuinely ask yourself, how did you come to this conclusion. Is this based on any sort of evidence, or is this just something you made up and then convinced yourself of.", "His own friend testified that they believed the guns were in their possession illegally. People on the left were concerned because of the vigilante aspect of it…combined with his picture posing with a racist group and flashing a white power symbol they’ve co-opted. Also, the guns were barely legal and that was mostly because the law on the books was sloppily written (per the judge’s own words).\n\nThe laws failed in the KR case, but the outcome based on the laws in place make sense. I think it was a case where everyone was right who covered it for different reasons.\n\nBeing found not guilty of a crime also doesn’t mean someone is innocent in the court of public opinion. People realize there are technicalities, varying quality of lawyers, and other issues that lead to poor outcomes. Heck, the number of people found guilty when they’re innocent is way too high. Even being found guilty, people still don’t always get a deserving sentence (like rapists who get probation).", "And i object! That he interrupted me while i was watching Ow! My Balls!", "The real pro tip is always in the comments?", "It does have awesome food.", "Shall we look at the stats on that? Even money says the GOP has more politicians convicted for crimes committed in office.", "Apparently he wasn't even drunk. Cop claimed his dash cam malfunctioned, and the police conveniently illegally deleted body cam footage and precinct footage of his arrest", "Did you watch the video?", "From what I remember seeing...that wasn't the case. You are right about one thing...they did decide what they were going to do 15 mins before his case...but I like to have faith. IF he was there on time....he wasn't...but IF he was, then I would like to think they would have heard his case. How long should they have waited on him...5 mins, he was more late than that. All of this speculation is worthless though. You and I don't know what would have happened if he had been there 5 minutes early, because he was 7 minutes late to his hearing after being told to be 15 mins early. The court time has no grace period built in.", "The absolute state of reddit holy shit lol", "What did you do?", "Suing the city for millions when you have this stuff on video is pretty standard", "He gets the same lawyer. *It's always Sunny in Philadelphia theme starts playing.*", "It's a fucking circle-jerk, just like the American Justice System! Sheesh.", "This is how villains are made", "True, but being poor and non-white is *even worse* than just being poor.", "No no, the guy said we should kill em all", "This is what he was originally charged under \n\n948.60\n\n(2) (a) Any person under 18 years of age who possesses or goes armed with a dangerous weapon is guilty of a Class A misdemeanor.\n\nThis is the relevant exception clause.\n \n(3)(c) This section applies only to a person under 18 years of age who possesses or is armed with a rifle or a shotgun if the person is in violation of s. 941.28 or is not in compliance with ss. 29.304 and 29.593. This section applies only to an adult who transfers a firearm to a person under 18 years of age if the person under 18 years of age is not in compliance with ss. 29.304 and 29.593 or to an adult who is in violation of s. 941.28\n\n941.28 refers to barrel lengths under 16 inches. Which he was not in violation of.\n\n\n29.304 and 29.593 must both be in violation together. 29.304 only applies to minors under the age 17. Since he was 17 at the time, he could not possibly be in violation of both statutes. The charges were thus dismissed.", "This is absolutely not true! \n\nYou can't steal from rich people even if you are rich. But yeah this is pretty much the only way rich people go to jail in the US", "That's true I suppose. My point still stands though.", "Okay he’s an asshole but he doesn’t deserve to have the entire justice system conspire against him in direct violation of the constitution", "Isn't this grounds for not only a mistrial, but also disbarment of the lawyer? A lawyer is legally obligated to act in the best interests of his/her client. \n\nI think the one exception is if the lawyer has reason to believe that their client will be imminently committing a felony, in whcih case they have an obligation to report such.", "We the people have become to complacent to care and demand justice so there will be no consequence when those you put in charge of justice become the things preventing justice it requires the mass to create justice.\n\nFor most of the population this is not there realty and to be blunt lots of people think its not a problem since they would never get them self's in that position. \n\n\nExample: Most of my peers I work with are perfectly happy to let an officer pull them over and search their car they feel that they have nothing to hide.", "Because they are immune to consequences and have probably done this before, as if its SOP.", "> Anyone who thinks normal citizens can ever win against our shitty system hasn't been paying attention to how America works now. \n\nYou have no idea what you're talking about. Normal people win all the fucking time against the state for things like police brutality, wrongful convictions, etc.", "also when he wins the lottery -.-", "Well that assumption sort of backfired.", "Insanity. The number of times the judge laughed about this— I hope she finds humor after she realizes she’s ended her career over this nonsense.", "That's just a shitty restaurant and the exception, not the norm.", "It's the usual if you have a bad lawyer. I win the vast majority of my DWI cases, but I see a bunch of bad lawyers pleading people guilty and folks don't know that criminal conviction will follow you around for the rest of your life, costing you jobs, custody of your kids in a divorce case, being forever banned from entering other countries like Canada, and other collateral consequences. In Texas, there is a fine of up to 2000, 4000, or 10 000 dollars depending on the circumstances of the DWI, plus a 3000 to 6000 fee for DWI convictions. Plus the license suspensions and enhancement of any future DWI charges. Plus costs and PITA of having a breath device in your car. And honestly, probation is probably more likely than time served on a first offense on most jurisdictions where I practice, so people have to frequently report to a probation officer and take pee tests for drugs and alcohol, etc. DWI is no joke.", "There's a lot of space between \"the bad guys got away with it this time\" and \" the whole system is good again\"\n\nNot everything is simplistic extremes.", "That's why they did it, not because he was arrested for drunk driving but because he fought very hard to contest it over multiple hearings. They punished him for fighting.", "No, you're one of those people who accuses people of being what they are fighting against. \n\nIt's not racist to bring up race in a country like the USA, lol.", "He missed one meeting, and was late for another in the course of FIVE YEARS.\n\nThat is not being chronically late, however the criminal judges and defenders just remember the one time the guy had an emergency.\n\nIt is baffling that this happened almsot two years ago and nothing happened to that judge or those lawyers. They should be disbarred at a minimum.", "No kidding, some guy said he's been to the US a few times and has never felt safe. Where the hell you visiting guy? Inner city Chicago?", ">He did it, he was guilty,\n\nI assume you have proof of this statement?\n\ne: the only source I have found says he was eventually forced to plead guilty because he couldn't afford bond. Now, I don't know if he's lying about that or not, but it hardly stretches the limits of credulity.", "People are always talking about doing stuff but then never actually doing anything? We should do something about that.", "The judge, prosecutor, and defense attorney all need to be locked up for a long, long time and never allowed to practice law again.", "Awesome food?", "If only I could afford a while conservative college kid!", "This is what he was originally charged under \n\n948.60\n\n(2) (a) Any person under 18 years of age who possesses or goes armed with a dangerous weapon is guilty of a Class A misdemeanor.\n\nThis is the relevant exception clause.\n \n(3)(c) This section applies only to a person under 18 years of age who possesses or is armed with a rifle or a shotgun if the person is in violation of s. 941.28 or is not in compliance with ss. 29.304 and 29.593. This section applies only to an adult who transfers a firearm to a person under 18 years of age if the person under 18 years of age is not in compliance with ss. 29.304 and 29.593 or to an adult who is in violation of s. 941.28\n\n941.28 refers to barrel lengths under 16 inches. Which he was not in violation of.\n\n\n29.304 and 29.593 must both be in violation together. 29.304 only applies to minors under the age 17. Since he was 17 at the time, he could not possibly be in violation of both statutes. The charges were thus dismissed.", "He'll probably get some thousands, not millions", "You made some valid points. I guess we only hear about the worst parts of China.", "Looks about white! Lots of tactics used here to ensure a hispanic man feels the wrath of institutionalized racism, nothing new", "no", "\n\n> He's in court for a DUI. \n> He drinks and then drives. \n \nSo, in short: You do not understand how a court or the justice system is (supposed) to work.", "Alright don’t make it about yourself dude… #jusiticeforsanchez", "I watched the video but I have no idea what those guys are talking about.", "> There is a consensus that he is chronically late.\n\nA consensus among people shown on camera to be eager liars. I wouldn't take anything they said seriously, ever.", "Because it's corrupt America. Did you see the story about the judge that committed theft in a dead man's home with her \"local law enforcement\" buddies? Google \"Final Disrespects\". It's all on video.", "I don't know any facts of the case, and can't say what is true or accurate here.\n\nBut if the judge calls your case, and you arent there, you are screwed, a bench warrant will be issued, and executed when possible.\n\nThis video makes the poor assumption that simply showing up in the court room is enough. It's not, if you show up late, your offense has already happened. \n\nit also make it appear as if the council conspired against him by starting early. but the court has a docket, and I can't speak for every court in most cases they don't start randomly you can't just start 15 minutes early.\n\nThen he goes on about how they saw him in the court room, and didn't mention it. I'm shocked the prosecutor mentioned to the judge at all. He interrupted court to do so, which is really crazy, and is something he had no obligation to do, and could get him in hot water depending on the judge, and probably get him chewed by the district attorney. \n\nYour attorney is required to provide you with a rigorous defense, but is not isn't there to make excuses for you not following procedure, this after being late and a no show, the video makes light of that but it's really something I'm surprised didn't have him with a bench warrant already. \n\nPeople who make assumptions about procedure, and then say they are being percecuted when they are held accountable for not following the rules are a dime a dozen. If you have to go to court, don't make assumptions, read up on the process, or consult your attorney. \n\nAgain, I'm not saying that is the case here but that is what it looks like.\n\nLooks, Like he made a very biased video that a lot of people here are quick to believe and assume the court is in wrong.", "Don't courts usually keep transcripts?", "The public office gang would've begrudgingly heared him out and then found another way to delay and inconvenience him again.\n\nThis wasn't an off-the-cuff \"lets fuck this guy\" impulse. It's a deliberate tactic to fuck him since he had the gall to fight back when police arrested him with no evidence, deleted all footage related to his arrest and he refused to plead guilty.\n\nAnd it worked. He missed weeks of work due to this ploy and was forced to plead guilty so he could go out and not lose everything he owns.", "damn. what did you do?", "your \"argument\" is non-existent lmao. It's also funny you think there is a left in the US. The dems are also conservative. there is no left party in the US. The dems are just covered in glitter when they deny people their rights.", "Tell me you didn't watch the video without telling me you didn't watch the video.", "What type of standards are these legal preceding held up against?", "What do you expect when there's no video?", "We don’t know that he was late. The courtroom seating filled up at 9:00. It’s entirely possible he was standing outside. When a case is called, an officer will announce the case in the hall. That’s because it would be absurd and unconstitutional to subject a defendant to arrest just because the courtroom is too small. In this case, they didn’t do that because they didn’t want him to respond. Nobody did. The prosecution, the defense, the judge - none of them want to see the docket stalled just because some guy wants to put on a full trial over a DWI. To them, this is a very minor charge with relatively insignificant consequences, and they are pissed that he won’t take a deal and plead out. While the judge here is complicit in the scheme, I really feel like the defense attorney wins the prize for biggest sack of shit. This whole plot was hatched because he’s too fucking lazy to put on a trial.", "What they are trying to say is they did it because they didn't know or didn't remember there was video or just thought no one would check.", "You don't have to be arrested to go to court. I went to court to deal with a citation I received with out ever being arrested.", "i worked at a public defender's office and we most definitely weren't friends with the prosecution. and they work in their own office...they just go to trial in the same courthouse. they also tried their hardest given their caseload. wtf is that dude talking about.", "Fuck. Y'all aren't being serious. Lol fell for that one.", "How do my hands look?", "We have a legal system, not a justice system.", "agree! i literally worked at a public defender's office for a while lol. we hated the prosecution - they were so awful!", "I believe it also covers part of lawyers license renewels or something like that\n\nI know a lawyer who regularly does it because he says the time counts for something. Lol", "Judge and attorneys should all lose their jobs over this.", "How much money, in this particular case? $3,000?...$5,000?...$10,000?", "All of them should be jailed.", "He was booked with no evidence and the police deleted everything, including footage from the precinct.\n\nDo you think they deleted damning evidence that showed him drunk?", "Pedophilia denotes being attracted to kids, not doing something to them. Pedophilia is not illegal", "Wholeheartedly agree haha", "It does", "Ok I guess that makes sense.", "I'm not the dude who you initially responded to, outing yourself as a racist. But go off lmao", "I'm not a pedophile, but I've certainly wanted a few people dead in my time, but never acted on it. Does that make me a murderer apologist?", "You'll wait huh... Percentage huh... You live and breath internet huh? You sound like you don't believe that this is a problem.... If so, You are wrong. You take your own time and effort to figure that out. If you do believe this and I am some how seeing your comment in the wrong light please set me straight.", "Agreed 100%, this was slime at its worst. But if this was me, and my freedom was on the line (as it was), then I would be sure make certain I was there well ahead of time. I know do many people who are late and unreliable, and they always blame traffic, or buses or whatever, but never themselves.", "A similar situation happened to me in Chicago for a dui case that i blew under the limit and could have beaten the case, my bond was set at 50,000 for 1 missed court date. Public defender got me to plead guilty to something i could have beat and now i have a dui on my record.", "And yet his friend is being charged with purchasing a weapon for a minor. HMMMMMMMM", "It's a meta joke. They're changing what they're saying, like the officers of the court did", "He wasn't late. He would've been late if they had called his case at 9 but they didn't. They called it at 8:45, prior to his hearing appointment. That's why the judge didn't want to tell him what time the warrant was issued, it was issued before he was even late. So the justification for the warrant that he was late is false.\n\nAnd he can't be late because they also only allowed people in at 9:05 and he was waiting outside the door at that time. He would've heard if they had called his case.", "Why were they recording lol", "Oh how I wish the common response to this was \"So you're saying the court has no evidence save for hearsay. Case dismissed.\"", "I know it sounds like a cop out but I claimed sole possession of a controlled substance over 2 grams, when it was actually my best friend's. Granted, we were both doing it, but it technically wasn't mine. They tried really hard to get me to roll over on him and wouldn't budge, so he got to drive away while I went to jail.", "You can't see other redditors in real life. You can only see what they do on reddit, so of course from your perspective all they ever do is move on to the next post. Your loud complaining about them is also performative, but the fact is that neither talking about injustice on the internet nor complaining about people talking about injustice on the internet actually precludes anyone from taking real action. In fact, talking about injustice and what we can do about it online or irl is 99.9% of the time the first step towards taking action.", "Keith kelly dismissed a case accusing keith kelly of committing jarring malpractice.\n\nAmerican justice system at it's finest", "Maybe if people like you worked to fix the things that are rotting instead of ripping off your shirt, planting a foot on a pile of trash, and trying to defend your home for title of best dump in the world, we'd be a better place.", "They started early to fuck him over or were you not paying attention.", "Link to the go fund me?", "While I agree on the no excuses part, and that he was 8 minutes late, which is unacceptable....\n\nThe judge clearly tells him the warrant was issued after 9am and he was clearly late.\n\nThey issued the warrant and decided he would be arrested when he showed up 15 minutes before his scheduled time, and everyone lied about it. That is unacceptable.", "GFY.", "Upwards of 8, if I remember right.", "I had a public defender once. The man argued for my bail to be increased from $15,000 to $25,000… and that is all he did, before I fired his ass. \n\nAfter I paid over $10,000 in lawyer fees for a good lawyer, my charges were basically all dropped. \n\nI was arrested for possession of marijuana on a college campus, by the way. What a heinous crime!", "Lawyers, public or private, swear an oath to among other things not do this shit. All 3 parties should be disbarred for undermining the legal system. This is what makes people take the law in their own hands, when people can't trust the system anymore because it is not based on rules.", "Possession of a controlled substance.", "You may be able to beat the rap, but you can't beat the ride.", "it's interesting that you have these views as a Canadian. as an American who was involved with the Canadian legal system due to a predatory business practice, it was ungodly unhelpful even with the copious evidence against the perpetrator. and yes, we even worked with a Canadian attorney. it was the equivalent of this video with a civil case. so I don't see it as any better.", ">Marxist\n\nTell me you're a right wing nutjob arguing in bad faith without telling me you're a right wing nutjob arguing in bad faith.", "Maybe if you weren’t a doormat for the people who would slander your nation, things would be even better than they are. I’ve travelled the world, the US has problems like ever other place, but it is absolutely not a dump.", "Boo!!!!", "Always pay for a attorney!! Never trust public defenders.", "Christ this is seriously so infuriating. There's zero avenue to have injustice rectified, you're powerless against it. They can do whatever they want with absolute impunity.", "I understand that, you can go to court for a traffic ticket however you can’t be arrested in traffic court", "That's for absolute sure :(", "Well, the front's not supposed to fall off, for one.", "You missed your fucking court date?! I ain’t got no sympathy for you.", "I've got a white kid who went to college but I taught him how not to be conservative.", "[Public defender's can often have their law school debts forgiven](https://www.nlada.org/issues-and-initiatives/law-school-loan-forgiveness)\n\n(Source talks about how reducing service based forgiveness will prevent low income families from having access to a public defender, cuz no one would do it with out the forgiveness)\n\nThis means, overwhelmingly, that public defender's are both 1) under 10 years out of law school, and 2) were not successful enough in lawschool to get an offer at a large firm.\n\nThere are also some more experienced lawyers who may donate some time to pro bono cases; however, few of them likely want to dedicate the amount of time required for more complex or difficult cases.", "There are documentaries on this and how wrong it has become and how corrupt it is. Let alone it is a FACT. Are you saying you believe some prisons are not privately owned? Because this is a well known FACT. It is not a secret... It is just how it is... I suggest you step back and use your brain for a moment.", "damn", "Liberty and Justice for ALL...smh\n\nhttps://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/10/31/utah-man-sues-public/", "You're really going to accuse me of being in as hivemind, when you all use the same \"ur the real racist\" schlock?", "His case has been going on for a while. He was way too relaxed about this shit. I’ve never had anything more than traffic tickets or moving violations, but I’ve always shown up an hour before court. I ain’t taken no fucking chances.", "I mean its a wisconsin technicality on the barrel length and lets not forget his buddy is being charged with buying the gun for a minor. Like hes literally getting off because his friend bought it in the state ahead of time for him. Theres a reason its a LEGAL system not a JUSTICE system", "Lawyers are pieces of shit. All of them. Same with judges and cops.", "You have to be arrested and charged with an offence already in order to have to go to court. They guy is likely out on bond", "This is truly appalling. And let me just ask why are they laughing about a man going to jail that hasn't even had a chance to have a fair trial. He was on his shit though he knew he got there on time.", "For a statement to be slander it must be proven to be false. One person's anecdotal opinion does not quantify the accusation as false, and therefore does not prove slander.\n\nAlso, you were 8 minutes late to your reply, so we're issuing a bench warrant for you.", "Nah hurr durr USA bad, though.", "Overruled!", "Wtf are you even talking about? The Barr Assoc is about the farthest thing from a union that there is. they don’t work the same way at all.", "I would be shocked if this payout is less than 1 million. He was falsely imprisoned for 2 weeks and forced to take a plea on a charge because of it.", "If he doesn’t show up to court they’ll have to re arrest him for failure to appear (which he will be convicted of considering he didn’t show up)", "Put them all in jail bunch of liars", "I understand where your coming from, I just like the parks and if raising e awareness about the national parks can help people go out there and appreciate what they have to offer I’ll be glad. \nNot trying to defend anyone but it’s like what mr Rogers mom said, “during an emergency you can always see people helping”. I always took that as looking at the whole picture and try to find some goodness out of a tough situation", "lol, wow what an edgy comment “DuRr I hAtE uSa AnD wOuLdN’t LiVe ThErE”\n\nIt’s in the too 10 unlivable countries for you, but you vacation there. It’s got something you want apparently. Unless you’ve vacationed in all other 200 countries and ran out of options", "I'd never vote anyone guilty of just about any nonviolent crime in the USA, whether they were guilty or not. Our justice and prison system as a whole is a gross violation of the 8th amendment and I'd feel incredibly guilty subjecting someone to it.", "Here", "Because he is daring to not plead guilty when police arrested him with no evidence and deleted all footage that proved his innocence. \n\nThe sheer gall from this peasant that won't bend over to the judge is why.", "Lots of commenters saying shit like, \"my brother's father's sister's daughter got killed because of a drunk driver, this DUI trash deserves life in Guantanamo!\" Assuming that the people who put him in this situation aren't just as dishonest as the court. \n\nAfter watching the footage I am personally more inclined to believe the charge is bogus.", "Anyone that compares quarantine to the holocaust is disgusting. You know the world has quarantined against illness for hundreds of years right?? In fact, in the old days they used to leave people to die on ships that entered American (and other countries ports) if they suspected small pox. So fuck you for trying to compare keeping the world safe with slaughtering people for their religion.", "wish you all the best man! you deserve a fair trial!", "I agree with you on that. She should have fought for her client and delayed as much as possible to give him a chance. Although we may disagree as to the legitimacy of the warrant, I am glad that we can both agree that his own defense attorney is the one who started the whole thing. I wonder if he can call another trial over bad legal representation. I believe I have seen that in the past and it would be a good thing in his case.", "You are a sad, strange little man and you have my pity.", "If I was accused of it, you better believe I'm showing up to court on time.", ".[..8%?](https://www.sentencingproject.org/publications/private-prisons-united-states/)\n\nI mean, it's a terrible practice, but it's not overwhelmingly common.", "Utah? These are the Mormons then, right??", "dont get too hung up on the word \"issued\". the bigger \"issue\" here, frankly, is the negative bias that defense counsel encourages vis a vis his clients' case. anytime they have a BFAW issued (Bond Forfeiture/Alias Warrant) \"issued\" it can just as easily be tossed in the trash (stricken) by the judge, the clerk, request of the state, agreement with parties, or a variety of other reasons. And saying \"everyone lied about it\" is completely false. That judge didnt know, the prosecutor had hundreds of defendants to account for, and defense counsel had other courts to make appearances within. Lying involves willful knowledge. \n\n\nI can tell you that if Sanchez had a history of not showing up or being late then being thrown in the jail is a sure-fire way to make sure he's there and on time to his next appearance and is often the only way to get some of these cases to move forward. I've represented thousands of these and have seen many (and I do mean MANY) in situations like that. The only way for this thing to be resolved was for the defendant to be forced to be there. you'd be surprised hos many people can't seem to ever be to court on time even if their very freedom is at stake and busy courts don't have time for that bullshit.", "It will be at least one million", "This is killing me on mobile having to read a chapter of red text every 3 seconds. Wish it had narration", "Oh, Don‘t mind that he is late to a hearing that he’s legally required to be at. He’s our hero here. This is reddit so it’s black and white. Now, did you bring your pitchfork?", "TLDW?", "I used to not believe in the death penalty. I've changed my mind.", "I've seen this case before (or one identical. I didn't memorize names) and they definitely mention that he was caught up in the hall--he wanted to go forward for his case but couldn't for some reason (too many people, didn't hear his name called... I don't recall exactly why). But he was technically there.", "Damn. I was willing to forgive the judge at first because his own lawyer lied about him like that, she likely would have believed him. But the lawyer leaves and the judge takes care of the rest, including the cover up. \n\n\nThe woman next to his lawyer at the beginning looked giddy as fuck when the judge set the warrant. Then the other woman sitting in the bench (the stenographer?) is rubbing her hands like she’s giddy too or a bit nervous. I wonder if this involved some kind of payout.", "you wanna tell me that it isnt the norm in miami?", "and that system can be circumvented if you're filthy rich, so is it really a legal system if it only applies to poor people?", "I hope every single person who failed Mr. Sanchez in this video gets what they deserve, to lose their jobs and be stripped of their power to fuck up other people's lives in a legal courtroom.", "Lmao thats all you got? Yea and im sure youve never been late to AAAAAAAAANYTHING", "... which is what the defence lawyer conspired with the prosecution and the judge to do, yes.\n\nVery good.", "It wasn't a traffic citation, it was a possession charge. You don't have to be arrested to need to go to criminal court.", "I dunno he still showed up 8 minutes late. Don't show up late to a court appearance?", "I believe they were being sarcastic", "I'm currently involved in the new prison being built there....let me tell you, you do not wanna go there.", "I think the judges title was wrong.\nPlease correct it next time to:\n\n“Dishonorable Judge, Katherine Bernards-Badwoman”\n\nCan’t expect me to leave good in her last name, can you.", "Thank you! I got a bullshit “no right turn on red” in the middle of the night while turning into a police station parking lot so my friend could file a report. I showed up early to my court date and the prosecutors talked to the people that showed up early to essentially make deals before the court had officially started. I told the dude I was going to fight it and he said “how about a non moving violation like a parking ticket and it doesn’t go on your record?” I said that sounded cool and I paid and was on my way. I’m not saying that this would’ve been possible for this guy, but don’t show up late to a court hearing, especially when a lot of people have the same court time. Dude fucked himself.", "Well, it does pan you've never heard of a Yiddish word, lol. \n\nAnd good for you, sticking to your guns. Both metaphorically and literally. Go cry about CRT, a term you didnt hear about until 2020 and have no idea what it means, pray to imaginary God, and fantasize about killing Muslims. I'm good over here.", "Fashionable", "Cue downvotes from Americans with blind nationalism issues.", "Wasn’t asking for any, just relating.", "Thanks!", ">Why would so many people risk their careers\n\nuhhhhh this is the question you are left with?", "I think this is to some extent the case in every country, but as a true crime fanatic it really seems to be the norm rather than the exception in America. The plea deals are the worst, so much crime and court backlog that they're pushing innocent people to take deals all the time to avoid longer sentences. This guy wanted to fight it and got ever by the whole system", "Just don't lie about your vaccine status or you'll get thrown into a Covid internment camp.", "Nah don't worry about it. Drug laws are fucked in this country. No one should be risking jail for it. Medical treatment and counselling at worst.", "always remember to ask for a deferment first in such traffic cases if you havent been in much trouble. that way they just bring you back in 6 months and if you've been good they dismiss it.", "I think mine may be a little under developed but I feel there may have been jangling.", "I need to come back and say that's the best description I've heard. Have gold my friend", "Disbarred? They should be in jail. How many lives have they potentially ruined or negatively impacted?", "Guys lawyers call his case early and lie about how he’s always late and tardy. They sets bench warrant. The guy does show up 8 minutes late to his court case but people don’t acknowledge him until far later. Prosecutors and judge and bailiff all have a laugh as they arrest the guy who’s been dealing with a lingering DUI case.", "The state holds a monopoly on the “justice” market…no competition, captured customers, guaranteed revenue steam. Literally no incentives or pressure to do a good job or the right thing. No alternative justice providers available.", "You wanna tell me Miami is the norm for America?", "Yes, and the above poster was replying to that sarcasm.", "In your heart.", "But . . . Lawyer bad. Judge bad. Defendant good. No time for contradicting video made by unknown source with totally unbiased commentary and arrows of hunch and feeling! No time for real world experience or nuanced argument. You sound like lawyer. Me on to you!", "But last week you were a retired nuclear engineer living on a government pension 🤥 \n\nEdit: who had spent months on retreat in Asia with ascended Buddhist master's and later studied under a direct disciple of Nisargadatta", "What the fuck is your point then jackass? Because unless you have a point. Your question means jack shit. You demanded a percentage... Why? And like a number is going to mean something when percentages on the internet are so damn accurate. Go ahead, make yourself feel justified.", "You’re a fucking idiot. I’ve been handcuffed several times growing up but was never arrested. You can beat the rap, but you can’t beat the ride.", "And also a man. Being a man helps.", "This particular case aside, it got me wondering...\n\nwhat a shitty situation it would be to be a defense attorney, and to get a client you KNOW committed the crime. (let's say a really heinous crime not like a shoplifter from Walmart.) Hell, maybe they even basically admit it to you. and then have to defend that person? sheesh...", "Apparently, you can't beat the rap either!", "i don’t think you actually understand the rights afforded to every citizen of this country", "He is a “troublemaker” because he wanted to go to trial. The fucking nerve of the guy to inconvenience everyone else, including his defense lawyers, by wanting to use his rights and not just get steam-rolled into a plea, that’s why he was set-up to be punished. It’s clear that this was retaliation for not being a “good”, ignorant client and just take his punishment, even if he was innocent. Heads should roll for this. They are laughing and playing games with his life, (likely lost his job after 2 weeks in the clink.)", "He'd have to seek him out since it's a civil case. Which would be absolutely comedy if he did, but wouldn't be a great idea. Doesn't look like it's really in his area of practice either. After watching this video it doesn't look like *anything* is in his area of practice to be fair.", "When everyone in the room is laughing about this it wouldn't surprise me if their stenographer is also corrupt", "They should lose their freedom over this.", "Happened to a minority, go figure...", "In the criminal justice system, the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups: The police, who seek arrests, and the district attorneys, who seek prosecutions. These are their stories.", ">American system that only lets you go if you can afford a good attorney (or a white conservative college kid...) \n\nPhew, was worried there. Can't afford a good lawyer, can probably afford a white Conservative college kid though.", "Even if it was on the upright, it would still be wrong. Creating situations where people are doomed to fail because of an opaque and inflexible system.\n\nWas it worth it to me, a regular law abiding citizen to have this guy spend weeks in jail for what amounted to at the absolute worst, being five minutes late? And all of the tax money and resources wasted in processing such an incarceration?\n\nGiven how buddy buddy the courts are, I almost wish they were required to converse in a double blind, written statements only situation with the prosecutor's and judges rotated through so they never quite new I'd they were arguing with their golf buddy.", "From when a similar video was posted 3 months ago:\n\n>I'm an attorney with some experience handling criminal cases. Not a Utah attorney.\n\n>Some thoughts:\n\n>[...]\n\n>* The only video evidence presented shows the defendant showing up at about 9:07 a.m., based on representations. The defendant was honest about this when asked. Even if the hearing was scheduled for 9:00 a.m., he was 7 minutes late. This is enough to be considered a non-appearance.\n\n>* Everything centers around the case being called at 8:45 a.m. as opposed to 9 a.m. Where's the notice of hearing showing the date and time of the hearing? How come that hasn't been shared? All we have to go on here is the defendant's claim the hearing was scheduled for 9 a.m. Hearings are noticed in writing.\n\n>* Defense counsel seem oddly fine with the bench warrant being issued. If they did not oppose the issuing of the warrant and/or ask the judge for some time to search the courthouse for the defendant and/or call the defendant, that's messed up. If the video cut out the portion where they did this, that's messed up. I have been in similar situations where I have asked the judge to please give me a short recess to try to locate and/or call my client. I have never had a judge deny that request.\n\n>* If the female defense attorney did not speak at all when the case was called with the defendant present, that's messed up. If the video cut out the portion where the female defense attorney addressed the court, that's messed up. It boggles the mind to not address the court when your client is being taken into custody.\n\n>* When the judge is talking to courthouse staff about the defendant being outside \"frantically calling his attorney\" and speculating that defense counsel themselves wanted the bench warrant executed, both the tone and substance of her communications are inappropriate. This is probably the specific reason she recused herself when confronted with the surveillance footage.\n\n>* The more people you add to the mix, the less likely and believable it is that there was a conspiracy of any sort. There are insinuations that the judge, defense attorneys, prosecutor, bailiff, court reporter, and even multiple news outlets were \"in on it\" and participated in or facilitated the \"corruption.\"\n\n>* The judge and courthouse staff do not know what this particular defendant looks like, even if they have seen him before. The prosecutor may not know what defendant looks like. These people see hundreds of defendants every single week. The only people who should be expected to know what defendant looks like are his own defense counsel.", "You client deserves the right to a proper and just defense. You could be disbarred for trying to throw a case. That’s why the burden is on the prosecution to convince the jury.", "Have any lost their careers yet?", "America is more transparent than most countries (Especially in regards to judicial proceedings) and is also about several times larger than the average European country. More shouldn't be confused with higher rates. \n\nYou hear more about America--because its bigger and, as said, puts more out there. Not because its worse.", "Poor Americans, it must be hard living in a developing country that spends all its money on police and the military.", "Funny that that's always the argument, \"at least we're not North Korea.\" \nIt's like a kid crying to you that they were molested and you replying \"at least they didn't kill you.\"", "We'll see .", "Land of the free and home of the brave.\n\nExcept the free are those in power and the brave are those that go before them. What a joke.", "Good shit!! I didn’t know this.", "I agree with you 100% but the majority of people on this site are muricans", "As someone who was arrested for DUI and then blew 0.031, I think you're wrong to assume that he's guilty, especially after all the evidence of his crime mysteriously disappeared.", "..I didn't say that it did?", "*Sorry, I made a comment and the comment edit in Firefox crapped out and messed up :shrug:*\n\n*Here's what I originally tried to put...* \n\n\nWhy else would someone feel the need to correct someone for saying pedophoilia is a crime - and for their correction to only cover 'rape/abuse/molestation' - sure seems like they are fine with everything else.... \n\nPretty telling they had the urge/need to come and make the correction too. If OP put 'on trial for punching someone', do we think the user would have been just as quick to correct them with actual specific names. Of course they wouldn't have.\n\n\n> I'm not a pedohpile, but I've certainly wanted a few people dead in my time, but never acted on it. Does that make me a murderer apologist? \n\n\nI'm not even sure what point you're trying to make there.", "You may be a strong believer in it but unfortunately nobody who actually works for the courts are.", "Not all PDs suck. Some of the best attorney's I've ever met were grinding in a PDs office for 10 or 20 years.", "UK prosecuted someone for a pug video lmao", "They put 3rd world country corruption to shame!", "It means the system is capable of penalizing corruption. Corruption in any large system, because of human nature, is inevitable. You can't avoid it. What makes a system good and functional is transparency (To allow for outside scrutiny) and procedures for punishing corruption. \n\nYou're literally witnessing both--so yeah, this does make the system good.", "TIL Captain Obvious doesnt have a sense of humor", "Non violent drug offense. \n\nFuck the state. And fuck any dipshit that thinks they have a right to tell you what you can and cannot put in your body.", "oops you landed on income tax...", "The way the Clerk was laughing, this ain’t the first time these Mormon folks sold a “Mexican” down the river.", "People can’t have several careers?! My grandfather had like three careers before he retired.", "Holy crap ... you mean people can hold more than ONE job? \n\n\nSince you just keep trying to take digs at me out of ignorance I will expect an apology this time. Here's the military part: \n[https://navy.togetherweserved.com/usn/servlet/tws.webapp.WebApp?cmd=Profile&type=Person&ID=800985](https://navy.togetherweserved.com/usn/servlet/tws.webapp.WebApp?cmd=Profile&type=Person&ID=800985) \n\n\nand here's OK County records of some of my cases as a defense attorney \n[https://www.oscn.net/dockets/Results.aspx?db=oklahoma&number=&lname=messer&fname=jeff&mname=&DoBMin=&DoBMax=&partytype=&apct=&dcct=&FiledDateL=&FiledDateH=&ClosedDateL=&ClosedDateH=&iLC=&iLCType=&iYear=&iNumber=&citation=](https://www.oscn.net/dockets/Results.aspx?db=oklahoma&number=&lname=messer&fname=jeff&mname=&DoBMin=&DoBMax=&partytype=&apct=&dcct=&FiledDateL=&FiledDateH=&ClosedDateL=&ClosedDateH=&iLC=&iLCType=&iYear=&iNumber=&citation=) \n\n\nNow I will be awaiting your apology and future silence.", "Gotta love these professional role players on Reddit like /u/coolmesser", "**Some** of it is only disgusting if the video claims are true. \n\nPutting aside the parts which are clear violations and disgusting no matter what, such as the communication between defence and prosecution as well as the jovial attitude towards arrest. The video just has text come up on the screen telling us what time it is without any kind of proof, and time is the key factor here.\n\nIf his court appearance was meant to be at 9, and he really didn't show until 9:38, well then that's a problem. It's really really important to take edited videos with text on the screen like this with a pinch of salt until you find out something more solid.\n\nWe have no idea if the timestamps were real, we have no idea if the police actually deleted footage, based on the video alone. Etc. Just to be clear, this **obviously** doesn't imply the video is false either, it **only** implies we don't have enough to form an accurate opinion based only on the video.", "Thanks for this fascinating demonstration. You called out the knee-jerk response and asked for a very easy-to-find fact that would shed light on the argument, and got back an incoherent response.\n\nI googled it, and the top result was from an anti-private prison group, stating it is 8%. Then I scrolled down just a little and saw that Utah, where this case happened, doesn't even *have* private prisons!\n\nIt's good technique to not just give the answer, because the person you are persuading will be much more likely to be persuaded if they look it up themselves. To be fair, adding \"I'll wait\" was pretty asshole-ish.", "Just wait until you remind them all their stuff is made in China.", "This is systemic racism. \n\nThis is systemic bigotry.\n\nI don't need to be told by some bucktooth brandon maga chud that it's not real.", "Well, this is probably because you've been fed a ton of propaganda hoping to inflate your own countries mediocre performance in these same areas.\n\nHumans are humans. You're not going to escape that. The fact that America has systems to make this kind of corruption transparent and procedures (Like the lawsuit) to punish it--puts it a step ahead of most places in the world.", "His point is that you made the claim that private prisons caused this issue. That's unlikely, because only about 8% of prisoners are in private prisons. Unless you have evidence that he was sentenced to a private prison, you made a statistically unsupportable claim, then defended it by either strawmanning or using an ad hominem defense that \"HAH THIS GUY DOESN'T BELIEVE IN PRIVATE PRISONS\".", ">Know that no amount of money they offer will persuade me to give up my determination to seek justice and to evoke change.\n\n>Multiple times SLLDA tried to force me to remove the video from the internet. First by way of a settlement agreement and then by court order. But I fought and here we are. It is a very powerful and distinct determination when you know you’re doing something for a cause that is grater than you.\n\nYou just know that this has happened multiple times before and if they get caught they've been able to convince people to let it go. If you're getting a public defender money is likely an easy way to buy your silence. It's not your fault, but when you need money to live and you already doubt the system, it's an easy choice.", "Mistrial", "Please tell us", "They can, but this is just a guy larping on the internet for inexplicable reasons. He tells his life story several times in his post history, I invite you to check for yourself.", "Legal system. \n\nJustice is apparently separated from legal at the border of the country, similar to immigrants and their children.", "Mr sanchez isnt a high profile target, if there was more government incentive to dissapear him it would have been handled without this tape showing up.", "some people can only feel better about themselves by putting others down.", "Stupid and corrupt, at least... but lemme guess, you think that just because some one's rich they're morally good?\n\nPraise the prosperity bible.", "Probably not. This happened last year. Either he settled and the system continues or he never got anything.", "https://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/10/31/utah-man-sues-public/", "Ok cool... A fucking point. Your first comment meant nothing.", "Hey, don't undersell him! He also used an ad hominem, he's got his bases covered!\n\n> You live and breath internet huh?", "All of those consequences that you help people avoid are 100% appropriate. DWI isn’t a joke, but people who do it treat it like it is. I hope your clients lose the right to drive, but sadly that’s not how America works cause no one actually gives a fuck about DWI.", "wow, aren't you the quick one too? I s'pose your lips move at STOP signs??", ">The government’s sole purpose for existing is to protect us. \n\nSheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit.", "fuck man even for a violent crime how do we know that incompetent cops aren't just pinning this on whoever they want. 90% of trial evidence is just \"here's what the cops said happened\"", "He plead guilty because his public defender was actively conspiring against him and he couldn’t afford private counsel. The whole basis of this video was that he didn’t WANT to plead guilty and the entire court conspired to fuck him for it.", "Yeah, possession of a car in motion while under the influence", "not without a front i cant.", "Were you born fucking stupid or did you have to practice for many years?", "same with the poor card too then ig.", "lemme guess\n\nTrump supporter?", "People like you are the reason why we have steadily been losing rights for the better part of 5 decades. Same thing with the patriot act. The amount of times ive heard \" well if youve done nothing wrong; youve got nothing to worry about\". Its not the fact he was late to his court case, its the fact that people in a positions of power are doing as they see fit with other peoples lives. Seriously, the fact this mans attorney conspired with the judge and prosecution to further ruin this guys life is less important than his truancy? \n\n\nWhen you personally are involved with a court proceeding, do you expect your lawyer to defend you within the fullest extent of the law? If yes, then no matter how late to the trial you shouldn't change that, nor should it even be related.", "Pretty sure the woman on the left is the clerk who is the person who records judgments and times and wareants etc. She is laughong throughout.", "So, quick question, and please understand that I too, believe the lawyers and judge should be severely punished for pre-emptively making the plan to arrest him and lying about his past attendance/tardiness.\n\nWasn't he still late? 9:07am for a 9am hearing? Or was his case just part of the day's docket that BEGAN at 9am and may not have been his?", "\"charged with\" is not \"convicted of\". KR was also charged and the charge was dismissed. \n\n\nAlso, you being Canadian has zero relevance to the conversation. Hell, I'm Canadian too. Its pretty easy to google Wisconsin law on the internet.", "Growing up on American TV this phrase was burnt in my mind:\n\n\"It may not be perfect, but it's the best justice system in the world!\"", "They should all lose their jobs/license.", "ROFLMFAO", "some jurisdictions don't do it but many do and it's not like they're just gonna make a general announcement. if the city attorney agrees to defer judges rarely object unless they're just jerks (and there are man of those too)", "\"give me a percentage.\" I'd argue that was a stupid reply. And regardless of numbers. Private prisons are bullshit. Y'all go use your time on something else.", "This Public Defender needs to be disbarred, fined, and face jail time.", "Fuck the police", "This is outrageous", "not a bot, but thanks", "I don't understand how they can sit and laugh like that. It made my blood boil just watching it on video. Unless it was for the right price then I might laugh /s", "Stone Ocean", "Pretty sure this is grounds to disbar all of them...", "And yet the majority stay absolutely silent that is just as disgusting to me nothing will change until the people get really fed up and I look forward to complete and utter pandemonium!", "When you hear people say \"the entire system is fucked and can't be trusted\" this is the just some of the fucked they're referring too.", "And yet hes did exactly what he was charged with. I mean dont you get arrested and charged for buying alcohol for a minor? Should a weapon not carry a harsher penalty because of how dangerous it is in untrained hands? Legal system not a justice system.", "Can confirm. I live here. Fuck this place. Then all the alt right retards ruined traveling so there goes that", "Unless your indigenous, then fucking die already right?", "His best bet would have been to bring an action for unconstitutional deprivation of due process under 42 U.S.C. 1983 against the judge, the prosecutor, and probably even the defense attorney who was arguably acting under color of law by conspiracy.", "I loled when he said he lost faith in the system. You gotta be pretty stupid to have any faith in the system at all.", ".", "Those consequences have been shown to not be effective at reducing drunk driving. DUI is no joke, but arbitrarily ruining people's lives for a mistake isn't one either.", "Methinks you responded to the wrong comment.", "Holy shit, you bitched about CRT and you're not even American? \n\nWow, you really have been brainwashed. I'm so sorry.", "Found the small town conversative retard who refuses to watch evidence of his shitty countries behavior", "This is representative of all parts of the government. I son't understand the faith so many people have in government.", "States have bar associations, an optional membership organization, and state bars, which issues licenses for attorneys, sets ethics rules, discipline, and usually falls under the state supreme court.", "Commenting to boost the algorithm. More people need to see this", "Yeah but you're forgetting that he's not white. The next year of this dude's life is fucked and he'll be extremely lucky if he sees even $50k.", "she's an idiot. I have a DD-214 in my wallet as well as an OBA card (although I turned in my license last year due to covid). the only lies are her saying she's not following me around for harassment purposes. Both the links below are evidence to the veracity of my claims. Not sure why I should have to prove my life to her (some moron living in her mom's basement in Wisconsin) - but it's there nonetheless and can check it all out yourself.", "They're referencing this bit [https://youtu.be/8-QNAwUdHUQ](https://youtu.be/8-QNAwUdHUQ) I believe. The senator makes a ridiculous argument to excuse the fact that an oil tanker has just spilled a huge amount of oil into the ocean. He'll rationalize anything even if it's clear evidence that something is wrong in order to support his probable motive; keeping oil tankers doing whatever they're doing without oversight to keep up profits.", "John Oliver had a piece about Bail a few years ago:\n\nhttps://youtu.be/IS5mwymTIJU", "We live in idiocracy times now", "They do but it only starts and stops at a certain point", "I've been in a situation where all the lawyers i called told me to pay the system and suck it up because I'll lose.\n\nYou could tell all the lawyers in the area were on the same page about it.\n\nDid it myself and won bigger than I thought I would.", "Is there a gofundme for him? I’d pitch 20 Bucks his way. Can’t imagine how much frustration he’s been through.", "When you have instances of someone's home being completely demolished by a police force that wanted to play soldier, and the city refusing to pay, and then the state backing that up, plus the supreme court refusing to hear the case?\n\nWhere's the goddamn justice or even hope of it?", "Are you still best friends?", "[ **Jump to 09:08 @** Referenced Video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVPCgNMOOP0&t=0h9m8s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: Crafty Criminalist With Ms. Z, Video Popularity: 97.47%, Video Length: [10:10])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@09:03](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVPCgNMOOP0&t=0h9m3s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)", "Here's the thing though. This is still miss conduct.\n\nThis looks like a tough job however in the grand context of it all. There are tougher jobs, there are jobs that need accountability. This is one such place, and even if the judge did not see him. She seemed to drive the subject quite well even though she didnt know!\n\n\"I came in at 9.08\", \"no you didn't\". What room for interpretation is there? Also the defense attorny is clearly corrupt.\n\nAsk yourself, if a surgeon...bunged up a finger operation or otherwise because of missconduct or wanted to move things along faster. Would it be alright? I can definitely argue that their job is harder.", "Every case processed by these individuals must now be audited.", "He will sue for 7 figures. Unless he lost his job or his marriage or something, the settlement will be more likely in the 5 figure range.\n\nEvery lawyer involved should be disbarred, though. That’s a separate process.", "American \"Justice\".", "That attorney should get disbarred and the judge removed! Absolutely no regard for upholding the law.", "Do you think this would have happened to a pretty blonde white girl? \n\nYou can’t deny that minorities in the US face comparatively far more unfair treatment.", "Oh, is that why the U.S. is one of the leaders in number of people incarcerated per capita?", "well, some of their complaints are justified. we have an overworked CJS and peoples' rights get tossed aside in the grind to make dockets flow. But misrepresenting or not knowing the context behind many of their slams just detracts from the honest complaints. And after thousands of cases you quickly find that it's always the same old shit.", "Are you surprised? This is the life of public defender - making deals with the state to advance their careers - you are a fool to use a public defender.", "good thing it worked out in the end. hope there are no regrets and you're on good terms", "Due to qualified immunity they will not have to pay anything (but may choose to settle the case if it gets enough PR). The judge cops and attorneys also gain protection from qualified immunity and MAY (but probably not) lose their jobs but certainly will not serve any time.", ">Yeah but you're forgetting that he's not white\n\nWhy would race have any bearing on what the judge/jury rules his damages are? This isn't a criminal trial", "You can find it if you google \"Luis Sanchez utah gofundme\"", "muricaaa fuck yeahh", "As of right now it still looks like zero risk", "They're all on the same team", "I'm not American, and when I heard about antifas and people trying to setup autonomous zones and just get rid of the State and their representatives (judges, cops)\n\nMy first thought was that they're just anarchist or retards who try to destroy a society\n\nBut then I've watched dozens and dozens of videos of corrupt police officers, GETTING AWAY despite the video proofs of their wrongdoing/criminal acts. I see how the system as a whole is made to have loopholes and very non-explicit/confusing laws in order for the people in power to have them mean whatever they want.\n\nThen I see this video and I'm a bit surprised but not really because it's just another proof US Society is systemically broken.\n\nThen I look back at those anarchist/anti-system people and how could I not understand them ? It seems like a nightmare to live in such society", "Bastard's", "This is so sad and disturbing", "\"Innocent until proven guilty... unless we want you to be guilty.\"", "there's some truth to that. I wouldnt misinterpret her forceful ruling as being a conspiracy or anything - she's a judge and making judgments is her job. Her personal observations was all she could go on until they have a hearing on the matter - which will be taken up when they do the pre-trial discovery that's been nudging a simple case into a 5 year blemish on the trial docket.", "i bet nothing happens to the judge or the lawyers. why because the entire judicial and government system in the US is horrible. by design.", "You have Mr.Bojangles", "Probably a lot more common than you’d think. I had one of the most well known attorneys in my city. Kept feeling like he didn’t really have my back, I’d bring him a concern and he’d basically disregard it.\n\nEnded up firing him and going with someone else after my sentencing and he looked through the case and said why in the fuck would your lawyer have you plead to this? Found out from him that the district prosecutor and my former attorney golf together every weekend.", "Get one of those youtube lawyers to react to this.", "This happens all over the world to all kinds of people. This is not a phenomenon that is specific to America.", ">but lemme guess, you think that just because someone's rich they're morally good?\n\nNobody thinks like this Lol", "8000 jesus. was it fentanyl? how is it that expensive for posession.", "Dirty Sanchez belongs in jail and even the public defender knew it. Unfortunately they went about the wrong way. Hope Sanchez and the court all get in trouble together", "Why was he late?", "They have a Twitter account, too. You are right that they won't care but if enough people made a stink about it....\n\nFor now they totally got away with it. Similar corruption in Orange County Florida with the sheriff John Mina and in municipalities across the US. Can't do anything about it when the judges and lawyers are the ones making the decisions", "So, your contribution to culture is to be a troll. Seems sort of meh, but I see that you get off on it.", "Good on him", "Is it a mistake when people choose over and over to drive drunk and only occasionally get caught? That's not a mistake, it's a choice.", "Fuck those corrupt liars. All of them should be arrested.", "QT has free air.", "> \"US BAD GIB UPDOOTS\"\n\nYour entire police force is the largest gang in the US. There's lots of corrupt cases you never hear about. Even when you do hear about them because someone was luckily video taping, you'd be lucky to get justice.", "I dont know about what his lawyer was doing. But to be fair he was late by 7mins regardless of whether it was a busy courtroom or not I think the judge is within reason to uphold her decision.\n\nBut at the end, she completely lied despite being earlier informed by the security. So eah shes just as guilty. \n\nAnd the back story is just disgusting. The lawyers involved tneed to ahve their license temporary withheld for retraining.", "That rhetoric is a direct response to what is perceived as an ongoing “USA numba 1!” Attitude pushed by some Americans despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary. \n\nAmerica isn’t the worst place in the world but it sure as shit isn’t the best either.", "Can someone ELI5 this situation please", "The judge saying \"I *believe* you were late [previous times]...\" isn't a statement of fact. It's not objective. I doubt she would've answered him if he asked her which dates, specifically. To me, that shows collusion with the prosecution and the defense. The judge never asked them for clarifications.\n\nEdit:\n\nOkay, I'm going to get a bit dirty here. Everyone is all over the lawyer and prosecutor. I've worked about ten years in law firms. I'm not a lawyer, but I've assisted them in court. \n\nI know, for a fact, when the lawyer and prosecutor go their own way, are back at their offices, front office staff has gone home, doors are locked, those two are having a laugh. \"I can't believe that stupid bitch granted a bench warrant without any consideration!\" This was said, in one form or another. They are both shocked and incredulous when they talk about this case, how easy it was to take someone's liberties away from them. Their freedom. They each will talk about how they'd hate to be in front of her as a defendant like Sanchez. They will disparage her. They have zero respect for her. Yet, they can't wait to get a case in front of her again because they only have to do the minimum.", "And nothing happened to either one of those pieces of shit. God bless America.", "So it did jangle your tinnynangels", "I mean we know the US is wealthy mate.", "This was happening in my hope state of PA.\n\nThe defense lawyer was conspiring with the judge to send innocent kids to a private detention center for kickbacks.\n\nIt ruined hundreds of lives, and they just recently got them charged.", "The judge lied on the bench too. \n\nShit like this is why I have no faith in the justice system. I recently lost a case **even though there was documented, irrefutable instances of perjury by the other party**, because the other party had a lawyer and I did not. \n\nHire the judge’s friends and you will win. That’s how the law works.", "The incentive to do a good job should come from the politicians trying to keep the electorate happy. That's how it works in any good country.\n\nThat kind of system not inherently broken like you're suggesting, it's broken *in the United States*.\n\nWhen 50% of the population doesn't care about anyone but \"their own\", the media is unregulated and works to divide based on people's fears, that's when you get into this vicious cycle.", "Yup, and that answers one the my questions in my head: when and how was this planned? But, if it is a case of slow progression, nod-nod-wink-wink kind of planning over years.. Yeah, this happens all the time, it is for them just another... god damn, i can't remember the word now, not formality but a... legal practice...procedure... oh forget it, sorry.. It is modus operandi. There, that'll convey the idea just fine. \n\n\nedit: i think this will also mean it is a conspiracy. And i can bet that all they get is a slap on the wrist, when they should all go to jail.", "They’re in Utah. I’m sure his name being Sanchez didn’t help either.", ">A miscarriage of justice for sure.\n\nIn the land of the free that's just called \"justice\".", "Dude was late for court. Don't be late for court.", "Yeah just look at Alec baldwin. He shot 2 people and he gets to pretend he's the victim. Just imagine if some regular peon shot 2 people.", "Gotta fill those prisons somehow. Each inmate is worth tens of thousands of dollars.\n\nLoads of people are in prison for the crime of being unable to afford good lawyers. \n\nAnd loads of pieces of shit roam free because they COULD afford good lawyers.", "The sarcasm went over your head.", "Disgusting, just fucking with peoples lives and giggling like little girls, hope they get fired", "The friend believing the guns were illegal doesn't change the law.\n\nThe law absolutely did not fail in the KR case, unless you mean \"the law\" when referring to the police inaction that night.\n\nI also disagree that all coverage of the case was right. Plenty of media slandered the poor guy.", "Anyone who thinks there aren't exceptions to that paradigm in order to convince people \"the system works\" hasn't been paying attention.\n\nThis guy might come out on top, even if only because of the blatant evidence around it and the fact someone higher up will want to make a show of it. \n\nFor every guy like this there are thousands who just get bullied into submission.", "So yeah it was underhanded that they just assumed he would be late...but he WAS late. It doesn’t change the outcome of him being arrested if they issued the warrant at 8:45 vs 9 because either way he showed up at 9:08.\n\n8 minutes or 8 hours, late is late", "Dominic Black would be charged under 948.60. (2)(b).\n\nThe section ~~3(a)~~ (3)(c) clause also applies because the person he loaned the rifle to (KR) was older than 16.\n\nWhat evidence do you have that KR was untrained in the use of the weapon?", "/r/ShitAmericansSay", "…", "Yes, every possible thing is wrong because that thing is wrong. Got it.", "**BOOOOOOOOOOOOO**", "Americans do. There's some literally think Donald Trump was sent by God.", "I don’t get it, the dude was late. They started early but he was still late (9:07). If i was on trial you bet your ass id be early.", "Ok", "And you replied to my reply!", "That guy was pretty weird. He made a bunch of odd comments that he ended up deleting.", "This is why the executive and judicial should be setup to be adversarial to eachother.\n\n Right now they both just want to put as many people in prison as possible. But the judicial is supposed to try to only put for sure guilty people in prison.", "Can I put this 3 foot sword into my body??", "I wants had a public defender assigned to me against my agreement, at the judges order for a speeding ticket to which the public defender was allowed to agree to a youthful offender status conviction against my instruction although I had proof that there were no posted speed limit. I completely empathize with this situation, and it’s sad because they do this on purpose to people that they think are ignorant of what’s going on.", "What a weird way to talk about justice.\n\nIf I am convinced of something, it's that portraying everything as business is one of the things that destroyed US citizens livelihood.\n\nIt's obviously not the only factor, the \"every man for itself\" syndrome is another.\n\nBut man, does your way to approach the issue opose to the core values of justice of more democratic countries.", "I think this whole thing is about him demanding a trial. He was making these folks do their job and wouldn’t go through the cattle chute and plead out, so they conspired to put him in a position that would force him to comply.", "The gofundme says they offered him $45,000.\nThat'd be hard for most people to turn down.", "Have you seen what that guy is doing now? Really doesn’t help his case that ‘it was just a joke’.", "It does cross your mind sometimes. Obviously we get an exaggerated view of what it’s really like and you’d have to be supremely stupid, unlucky, or both, but even so. What if you’re from a country where the cops *don’t* just shoot people every day and you encounter a twitchy one? Even the more relaxed ones seem to get a bit put out if you don’t act subservient with them.", "Yes, u/serialmom666", "Its not a joke, it should be a harsh but temporary punishment. \n\nLifelong punishment is counterproductive, has a huge negative societal consequences, and may even increase the likelihood of future crime. \n\nIt might make us feel good because we get extra revenge, but thats all it does.", "We need to get rid of bail. Either you need to stay in jail or you don't. Either you're a flight risk and/or danger, or you're not. \n\nI understand this will cause some problems, but the problems bail carries are far greater than any caused by removing bail.", "Exactly", "I don’t think free market logic is the best way to look at this. When elements of the criminal justice system are privatized by for-profit companies that compete for contracts, outcomes are even worse.", "He was sitting outside the courtroom waiting to be called in like they made him do in his lrior appearance for this case.\n\nThe lawyers even saw him earlier.", "You might say it's a shithole country...", "This. The problem is that the people who win are a small minority, as evidenced by the fact it just keeps happening. If the risk was big, these people wouldn't act like this.\n\nBut yeah, acting like it never happens is just a childish oversimplification. Typical Reddit.", "Judges, cops, lawyers…everyone can be a fucking pig", "This is most likely only the tip of the corruption in justice sys.", "Cause they're peanut butter and jealllllous\n\nMurica", "Did you... Not read the title of the post?", "This section does not apply to a person under 18 years of age who possesses or is armed with a dangerous weapon when the dangerous weapon is being used in target practice under the supervision of an adult or in a course of instruction in the traditional and proper use of the dangerous weapon under the supervision of an adult. This section does not apply to an adult who transfers a dangerous weapon to a person under 18 years of age for use only in target practice under the adult's supervision or in a course of instruction in the traditional and proper use of the dangerous weapon under the adult's supervision.\n\nYea he had no adult supervision", "He has the right to get arrested for contempt of court. You have to show up, on time.", "So much is fucked up with this video. A disgusting example of how corrupt the legal system is and has been since its inception.", "Even if he wins his case, justice isn’t served until all involved lose their jobs or possibly get jail time (that has to be illegal).", "Yeah dude, the point is that it doesn't matter and they'll do whatever they want because our system is so fucked up.", "Why the fuck is everyone laughing?\n\nThey're enjoying this", "I imagine America's pretty great if you're a sociopath, yeah.", "He needs to involve the feds before the local PD 'disappear' him.", "ELI5: How are you not risking being disbarred by conspiring against your client? Couldn't the defendant motion for a mistrial or sue for some kind of failure of council?", "A buuuunch of people do", "It’s because it was a “Straw Purchase” KR was allowed to possess the weapon just not purchase it. If your feelings don’t align with the law that doesn’t make someone guilty.", "That's not true, and it's offensive to all of the people working in those professions to make a blanket statement like that. The vast majority of public legal representatives respect the law. Corruption happens everywhere, even here, but you're painting with far too broad a brush.", "Don’t be an idiot. \n\nhttps://www.government.se/articles/2017/02/facts-about-migration-and-crime-in-sweden/", "I'm glad you didn't get locked up for that and hope you're doing well.", "good, then you can go to jail sooner for being a pedo", "Yeah.. Well.. This partly why I am hesitant to go there again... Many Americans seems to take even open questions about their political and social issues so personally...?\n\nThis is the impression my 2017 roadtrip gave me at least...\n\nI have gone on road trips in around thirty countries on all continents and I try to get to know and talk with the 'locals' and politics and social issues are what I enjoy talking about the most.. \n\nI remember, in Alabama i believe, I got into this very rural pub/restaurant and looked for food and perhaps a chat.. I was actually thrown out of the pub and had a truck follow me for an hour... \n\nAll because I just asked why they thought private health care was better than government health care.. \n\nFrightening situation..", ":(\n\n​\n\nI didn't.", "Geeze, good guy but I’m scared for him.", "Yea, you’re an insufferable cunt. What sort of asshole goes to a foreign nation and starts arguments about healthcare. Saying it again, we don’t need you here.", "I agree with you, but of course that's a complicated conversation that's difficult to hash out in a reddit thread. The US is a big country. There are \"bad\" places and \"good\" places. What is \"good\" to one person might be \"bad\" to someone else. It's probably fair to say there is no objective \"best\" place in the world at all.\n\n\nI do think that the US has a lot more global ATTENTION paid than almost every other country. The US is big, meddling, and US culture still dominates globally. So I understand the compulsion for so many non-Americans to have an opinion. But frankly - many of those people need to tend to their own damn house first. So many people have miles and miles of criticisms of the US that get amplified and reinforced by US media, when those problems (or worse) exist in their own countries as well.", "All of that doesn’t matter if his court case was scheduled for 9, but was called at 845 and issued a bench warrant at 845. Followed by the court making false statements about what time he did arrive: allegedly 1030 per the court and then 938 stated by council. All in an effort to falsely document that when he arrived so they could cover their ass for issuing the warrant prior to his scheduled court time.", "Because it's stupid. What does being a CO have anything to do with receiving a fair trial?\n\nIf they called it at 9:00 when he should have been there then no one would bat a fucking eye. They didn't do that. They conspired 15 mins before the trial time. Jesus fucking christ this shit ain't hard to understand.", "It probably would be, but cops are usually considered “experts” aren’t they? So you’ve got an “expert” saying they’re drunk, everyday joe saying he isn’t, and a slam dunk for the prosecution. \n\nWhile we’re on this, are field sobriety tests still a thing? Surely a breatho is the superior option.", "I lived in the Kopan monastery in kathmandu valley, nepal. it's a program they've had since the 70's and anyone is invited to attend. it has a small cost and is annually held in November but you need applications in by June because space is limited. not sure what's so dishonest about that? They've been closed for a year due to covid and earthquake damage but assure they will be open again in 2022. Here's their link where the courses and retreats will be discussed: \n[https://kopanmonastery.com/#](https://kopanmonastery.com/#) \n\n\nAs for Sailor Bob Adamson (who just went home following surgery last week) I'm not sure what you require there or why either. Is it just because you've done nothing but languish in your mom's basement your whole life while the rest of us were experiencing the world - but at some point I can only suspect jealousy or some other juvenile bullshit. \n\n\nBut, anyhoo ... here's Bob's bio \n[https://www.sailorbobadamson.com/](https://www.sailorbobadamson.com/) \n\n\nand you're welcome to join us on Zoom once he's back and at it ... here's that info. \nMeeting ID: 358 390 798, Password: 559403 \n\n\n \nNow I'd suggest you stop with your harassment, slander, and lies. I can prove everything I talk about because it's TRUE. All I see coming out of your piehole is vile BS and apparent penis envy.", "That is a very toxic court system. \n\nThe thing is, now the question that arise is, do public defender really work for the righteousness of their client or do they play by their own legal/workplace “politics” agenda?\n\nThe tale of two cities, those who can afford an attorney who looks out for their clients best interest versus those who can’t afford their own attorney who doesn’t look out for their clients best interest is played out in that farce Utah justice system.", "Like the RAPIST BROCK TURNER?", "I tend to agree. I'm not saying that it's great for people to be on drugs (arguable, I know), and for me getting off of them has been a largely positive experience. But fuck, man, my body my choice.", "Yea and its literally a wisconsin technicality that lets him off. If this happened in some other state he would definitely be looking at a weapons charge. Legal system not a justice system\n\nEdit: https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/explainer-judge-drop-rittenhouse-gun-charge-81285031\n\nQuite a few ppl dont like it considering it protects people in this way", "Lol you should know better than to lump both parties together on here. Only republicans bad!", "F*ck that judge", "Yeesh. I’m a lawyer and, if true, this was unethical and potentially grounds for disbarment. You may not believe this, but most of us take our ethical obligations very seriously.", "I'm fascinated. Do you always click on posts without reading the title, or was it just a one time thing? I imagine it's very surprising finding out what you're gonna get just clicking on posts and always going in blind.", "What video?", "Oh you sweet summer child...", ">DWI is no joke.\n\nAnd rightly so. A lot of innocent people get killed by drunk drivers.", "Nope and he dropped his case against them to countersue for abuse because he would've had to do it in the same court and judge. They basically told him to go fuck himself and if he pursued they'd do it again.", "I have state-issued ID, my bar card, and a DD-214 so your comments are slanderous lies.", "There’s an article that said he was suing.", "Money is one of those things that's really easy to turn down until you need it, and it's offered to you. I want to say I'd turn that amount down as insulting, but I really don't know what I'd do in the situation", "Sometimes even private counsel is in the bed with the gov.", "Maybe she thought it was a red herring title? Well, not really a red herring, since that would be a decoy, not an outright lie.", "Beacaue mr.sanchez isnt white. And the rest of those people are. Thats it.", "If you speak against it, conservatives will bring you all manner of anecdotal evidence about how if we don’t have money based Bond processes, everyone everywhere will get murdered instantly.", "Drugs probably", "> Pretty fucking thankful I live in Australia\n\nUntil you write a mean Facebook comment I suppose", "It makes so little sense at times. I know people who did more time for personal possession of weed than some rapists did. I don't even know how we can fix it. It's an insidious machine.", "Don't worry about it. If you are in the wrong place at the wrong time with the wrong wannabe cowboy cop you aren't going to have to worry about the legal system here for the rest of your life.", "The American “Justice” system at work.", "I cant find any independent evidence that says this. News articles just seem to say that he was late to his case, attorneys started 12 minutes before 9, and so there was a warrant issued. I cant find any sources describing any kind of corruption or collusion.\n\nEdit: I dont see the conspiracy in a short video, therefore I didnt watch it. Got it.", "Because it's felony possession, not misdemeanor possession", "I personally know of a person this happened to. He's been in jail (holding) for 6+ years, with no bond, because of the proc and defense and judge working together. Furthermore they gave him effectively multiple life sentences because he never once 'admitted guilt'. The judge is on record saying 'if you won't say you are guilty I feel the need to punish you for that'.\n\nThe justice system is so corrupt here (US). Furthermore prisons shouldn't be private corporations who are incentivized to keep inventory (people) in stock.", "My mistake. section 3 (c)\n\n​\n\n(c) This section applies only to a \n person under 18 years of age who possesses or is armed with a rifle or a \n shotgun if the person is in violation of s. 941.28 or is not in compliance with ss. 29.304 and 29.593. \n \\*\\*This section applies only to an adult who transfers a firearm to a \nperson under 18 years of age if the person under 18 years of age is not \nin compliance with ss. 29.304 and 29.593 or to an adult who is in violation of s. 941.28.\\*\\*", "When you're broke and in legal trouble it becomes a lot easier to take $45k than fighting a system that you already know is corrupt, with no way of knowing how long it might take to see justice, or even if you will see justice eventually.\n\nThis guy got lucky that his case is so obvious and easy to understand for the average person, so his GoFundMe could be successful and he could continue to fight. Most people don't get that chance.", "Yes", "Starting life on third base and going about your days thinking you hit a triple.", "https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/explainer-judge-drop-rittenhouse-gun-charge-81285031\n\nLegal system not a justice system", "My dads lawyer through my parents divorce hearing was *sleeping with my mother* throughout the first half of proceedings. \n\nHe very quickly switched lawyers.", "I agree. The cop that took me in that night got to liking me and sort of being apologetic about the thing. I talked his ear off because I was coked up, and by the time we got to the jail he kept telling me how he respected me and felt really bad and hoped that this helped to get my life on track. I told him \"yeah I'm sure a felony on my record is gonna send me in the right direction\".\n\nPortugal decriminalized drug use in 2008 I think, and every few years they do a review and it turns out incarceration rates, violent crime, relapses, and drug related deaths decreases with every status check.", "What is wrong with these people? I hope each and every one of them loses whatever legal licenses they hold. All the snickering, sarcasm, etc makes me sick.", "she's just a troll.", "By all means, be my guest.", "Just imagine what's going on at higher levels if this happens to some random person trying not to spend a week in jail. \n\nVery concerning. Hope some very real consequences happens to the judge and lawyers involved.", "Shocking that they mistreat the non-white dude.", "The problem is that by targeting only specific causes of bad driving we accept other causes. The only way to truly better the roads is to drop the ~~charges~~ punishments for DWI/DUI charges and then ~~charge~~ punish everyone that misuses their vehicles the same. There are plenty of innocuous things inside vehicles, that people mess with that cause accidents/deaths but there is rarely a way to tell, which are the causes of most of the other 66% of annual road fatalities. Why should those individuals suffer less harsh consequences than someone that chose to drink too much? They all make bad decisions that ruin other people's lives and/or property.", "Thanks man! I actually haven't done drugs in years, got married, bought a house, had a kid. He's 19 months almost. So things kinda leveled out. Appreciate the kind words.", "Nailed it.", "What's great about America besides \"they're rich\" that other countries don't also have?", "Video?", "Did Sanchez dirty ..", "Surely you’d have enough to go in several peoples’ bodies if you were looking at two years. Or I could be very naive.", "Googling right now. My blood is already boiling. Sigh.", "Yeah I would assume this is an ymmv situation depending on where you live. I was watching a public defender and prosecutor go at it on multiple cases in the courtroom during a hearing where I was waiting for my case as a potential witness.", "“Unless those Second Amendment People…maybe…I don’t know?” \n\n~ Donald Trump", "Right, I'm not fully knowledgeable of the law but shouldn't the past convictions of the judge be suspect?", "Fact remains; he was late", "Hmm I think I usually read the title. I probably got to \"Man's own defence lawyer conspires with the prosecution and..\" and then clicked on the video. I do know that sometimes I read something like maybe I read this title and then watch the video and still be surprised by something that was in the title. Maybe It's because english isn't my mother tongue and it just goes ear in ear out.", "Because assassinating corrupt officials is now unpopular for some reason. Probably because liberals don't like guns and most corrupt asshats are conservatives.", "I have discussed issues like this all over the world and never experienced anything like it... People don't take it personally, and it's not like I burst out that OuR sYsTem iS beTtER... I just wanna know what people think...\n\nLike, I am hesitant to visit USA because of the people living there... And I am not sure I can say that about any other country... It is like walking on glass..", "this is business as usual in america. i was arrested for a crime i didn't commit in texas in 2003, and my court appointed lawyer had spoken to the judge, the d.a., and the prosecutor before ever contacting me, and had a plea deal drawn out and ready for me to sign before ever having spoken a word to me, or to even ask if i wanted to plead guilty or innocent. the country we live in is NOT the country that my grandfather left to go fight WW2 for.", "Yes. Even though shortly after that he stole my car and I never got it back. A year or so later he sobered up and I let him stay with me for a few months while he got his shit together and started a family of his own.\n\nI am stupid and yes he's still by best buddy since he was 15 and I was 19. He'd have to do something really heinous for me to write him off.", "Heh, nice.", "Nah we're fine. I wouldn't have done it to hold it over his head. I just wanted him to be okay and he knows that.", "how much does a white conservative college kid cost and how does purchasing one help with your legal woes?", "Don't be obtuse.", "Oh boy. Man fuck these people. This shit needs to be seen by everyone this is disgusting.", ">That rhetoric is a direct response to what is perceived as an ongoing “USA numba 1!” Attitude pushed by some Americans\n\nWho is that person trying to respond to? That attitude you mention is easily overwhelmed by the comments saying how awful the US is and how the country is basically third world level (at a minimum on Reddit, but really on many major social media sites).", "I hope he gets paid", "**[Kim Reynolds](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Reynolds)** \n \n >Kimberly Kay Reynolds (born August 4, 1959) is an American politician serving as the current governor of Iowa since 2017. She is a member of the Republican Party. Reynolds previously served as the 46th Lieutenant Governor of Iowa from 2011 to 2017. Before she was elected Lieutenant Governor, Reynolds served as Clarke County Treasurer for four terms and then served in the Iowa Senate from 2009 to 2010.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)", "Desktop version of /u/sxswAustin's link: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Reynolds>\n\n --- \n\n ^([)[^(opt out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiMobileLinkBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^(]) ^(Beep Boop. Downvote to delete)", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ySfSsxJJ4Y&t=107s", "Cocaine, and it was the quantity that landed the felony status. They lawyer just charges what they want. It's not like bond where the price is contigent on bail.", "I mean, we also have the SLT article and the lawsuit which seems to be about these things. So there's that. Since the lawsuit started over a year ago, supposedly, I'd imagine there's some kind of update, too.\n\nUnfortunately even if the claims (video, etc) are true he did appear late - I'm not sure how much it matters that it was only 7 minutes instead of over an hour.\n\nThough even in that case, at the very least it does seem like the PD explicitly wasn't working in his best interest, which is some shitty lawyering. I'm aware that PDs have some of the toughest jobs in the biz, and even if the guy has a habit of being late, etc I could see them being fed up with their client. And there's realistically a limit to how much a PD can do given their workloads. But it shouldn't matter.", "Because there are no consequences for them when they do it. This is not an isolated case, it's one example of systemic corruption.", "It's not only 45k, it's 45k vs enormous cost for fighting and the risk of losing.", "Each and everyone of them need to be fired! This is a bigger problem in this country than people realize! Depending on your last name and whether or not you’re a good old boy depends on what happens to you! It’s bullshit it is pure bullshit🤬", "Sorry about that relevant anecdote.\n\n #jusiticeforsanchez", "One of those problems would be cops having even more power to imprison you, or cow you into submission knowing you can't get out easily, though.", "Did you watch the video?", "Sure, they all work for the government in the chain upward but judicial staff is not the same funding or oversight as prosecutor or defense, not at all. Same with the clerk of courts and the SAO. \n\nI guess I should say that what I have said is correct for Florida courts which I can’t imagine are very different than other states who answer to the federal government for oversight.\n\nEdit: I worked in that field", "Oh absolutely, no argument here.", "Sounds like he needed the help and you were the an amazing friend. We need more people like you in this world", "not unless you're eminem but thats only because hes a rap god.", "Nope.", "No need to imagine, just check abu-ghraib and guantanamo bay :^)", "Hey that's not fair! sometimes we like to spend money on bigly walls too! and dont forget the war on drugs! oh wait... those are just police and military.... carry on", "The American justice system is the scariest thing in the world.", "why is the judge still a judge and why is the lawyer still a lawyer. Both should be in jail.", "He wasn't late right? he was waiting right outside the door for his lawyer? or am i wrong", "Watch out, r/publicdefenders will come and brigade your shit for saying this. They are really sensitive.\n\nThe problem is public defender quality varies vastly by region and state in the US. In some places, your public defender is likely to be really good. In Utah...not so likely.\n\nAttorneys are supposed to swear an oath to be zealous defenders of their clients. The video here shows some people consider oaths to be just \"words.\"", "Exactly.", "I mean, his friend owes him. He'd better not be the one breaking the friendship.", "Ok. 50 about Canada. Go.", "Wtf does that have to do with anything? Not all of Utah is Mormon", "Land of the free. Ha.\n\nWhat a scam.", "Yeah it isn't nearly enough, but it's also the choice of: take that money, or possibly fight and end up with nothing but enormous debt.", "When I covered local court, I quickly learned which attorneys (which was a fairly significant fraction) could not be trusted to work on behalf of their clients in order to schmooze with the prosecutors and which ones would fight for the rights of their clients.", "Each of them should be disbarred or, at the very least, reprimanded and then disbarred with the slightest hint of crap like this ever happening again.", "They don't lock up nearly as many people per Capita as the us does lol", "Kind of you. He did need the help, and always has since I'd known him. He's got a history of being unpredictable, unstable, arguably chemically imbalanced, and selfish. But so did I, and that makes it easier in my older years to be forgiving. He's also caring, smart, a great musician, and one of the funniest people I know. Without drink and drugs he's a saint. Thankfully it seems like he's on a good road.\n\nAppreciate the nice words.", "But many of those problems don't exist on other wealthy countries. The US in an outlier in a lot of negative statistics in that regard.", "Nah, torture is worse. I'd rather some rich oil guy get government money illegally than, for example, have myself get my skin flayed.", "The concept of a public defender is totally flawed. Someone hired by the state to compete against the state's interest? Total conflict of interest. \n\nJudges also have an incentive to rule on the side of the state in almost every matter for the same reason. People only pretend that a system like this isn't rife with natural conflicts. \n\nJuries are the proof against this, but who selects the juries? The Prosecution (the state), The Defense (the state) with the help of the judge (the state).", "You should be allowed to yeah.", "Katherine Bernards-goodman needs to be fired immediately.", "How do police even have the ability to delete anything? I'm completely ignorant to the process of releasing body/dashcam footage or anything from the station but I assumed these requests for video were handled by a third-party. Like I thought for bodycams they just put them on and take them off and push a button to record. I didn't know they had access to the internal storage.", "On your way to court, you were in an accident. You're still a 30 minute drive from the court house they assigned you. You have to wait for the police to show up, else you're fleeing from the scene of an accident. The police take their sweet time because accidents that don't involve injuries are low on their priority. The whole ordeal takes hours and you're now late to your court date. Guess you're guilty of all the crimes!", "Coming from an Australian who comments on cuckold porn on reddit lol", "Justice is a joke in America :(", "> The case stemmed from a charge that alleged that Sanchez had failed to stop at the command of a police officer. In an early December morning of 2014, police had been dispatched near a residence where a party had taken place, and where a fight had been reported. When police arrived, Sanchez and multiple other people in different vehicles were in the process of driving away.\n\n> One responding officer was Jared Cardon from the Unified Police Department of Greater Salt Lake. In his police report, officer Cardon states that once he arrived near the residence, he saw three vehicles getting ready to leave. Officer Cardon then states that he stepped out of his patrol vehicle and stretched his arms out and signaled the vehicle closes to him to stop.\n\n> Court records from an evidentiary hearing offers testimony where Sanchez declares he was the second vehicle in line. Sanchez as well as officer Cardon, state that the first vehicle in line had stopped once Cardon gave him a gesture to stop. Both Sanchez and officer Cardon then declare that the first car in line drove around the officer and accelerated away.\n\n> Next is where the issue arises. Officer Jared Cardon claims that Sanchez was driving the first car in line. He also states that he slammed his hand on the hood of Sanchez’s car in an effort to order him to stop.\n\n> Mr. Sanchez and multiple other witnesses affirm that Sanchez was the second car in line and that they never saw any officer slam the hood of Sanchez’s car, nor any other vehicle that was about to drive away.\n\n> Sanchez states he was never given a direct order to stop. He reveals that he only drove away after waiting a significant amount of time after officer Cardon had ran into his patrol vehicle, due to the first car that had sped away. Believing they were not being sought by police, Sanchez and the other vehicle behind him resumed driving.\n\n> Officer Cardon refutes this and claims that the first car in line was that of Sanchez. He alleges that Sanchez willfully ignored numerous commands to stop and that he sped away while the other two vehicles waited. He explains that the blatant disregard to his commands to stop, led him to charge Sanchez with fleeing and subsequently with DUI and resisting arrest.\n\nCare to refute?", "It’s an insignificant amount relative to the offense. But for very, very many individuals who require a public defender, it is a life altering amount. And for those who have been so obviously fucked over by the corrupt behavior within the system, believing that you will somehow win more than that very often would feel out of reach.\n\nThis guy has been fighting FIVE YEARS just to get a trial for a DUI, and to get the video evidence of the stop and arrest and the treatment of him while he was in custody. Most people in that situation do not have what likely would feel like could be 10+ years to fight the system for the just outcome.", "Maybe? I think it was more of a rustling.", "Can you show where race came up?", "We would have to write it in such a way that imprisonment is extremely hard to warrant and has allowances for continuance of their work. (Keeping in mind we have things such as monitoring anklets, etc) \n\nAlso I think if we do imprison somebody until trial they should basically be \"moved to the top of the queue\" to ensure that time is minimal.", "I watched the video.\n \nThat guy ***definitely*** didn't watch the video.", "Immune from criminal prosecutions and civil lawsuits for their professional services but not immune from ethical violations.", "There isn't a video.", "This happens in every aspect of life a lot more than you think, you think people are your friends but no one is your friend if there isn't anything in it for them. Everyone is selfish and people only care about survival and themselves. You just don't realize what it is they're in it for until you're left on the side of the road fucked up and broken and bruised.", "Shit they don't even need to dissappear him just pull him over and say they felt threatened, light him up and the problem goes away. People need to wake up to the fact that cops and the legal system is not your friend unless you are rich or have connections.", "Well you can be arrested for any reason and then held until a court date. If you want to get out of jail before that court date, you have to put a deposit down, called bail. Most people don’t have thousands of dollars just sitting around, so you can use a bail bondsman to get a temporary loan to cover that which is returned after you show up for your court date. And you get to pay outrageous interest on it, because America.\n\nOtherwise you just sit in jail until then, the rest of your life be damned.\n\nOh, and you don’t have to be guilty of anything for all this to happen. You could just be in the wrong place at the wrong time or look the wrong way, or annoy the arresting cop for any reason. Any consequences for false arrests are extremely rare unless it gets picked up by the news.", "Unless the article confirms the reported times, or contains an unedited full video, or unless the details of the lawsuit confirm the time, then we are no further forward than we are from the video alone.\n\nThats the problem.\nThe video itself only mentions 8:40 as part of the actual audio. The rest is just a claim. That's ultimately why these sort of things do go to trial, so the actual times can be proven. Right now, we (as far as everything I've seen) don't have the proof.", ">All I see coming out of your piehole is vile BS and apparent penis envy.\n\nSexism from a self proclaimed sannyasin? Of course.", "A judge can and should be disbarred for this kind of conducr", "lol, why did you watch it then?", "This is clearly contempt of court, and they should be charged.", "We all know dang well this wasn’t their first time doing this but they messed with the wrong person this time.", "It’s almost like we’re in /r/videos and you have to watch the video to know what’s being talked about.", "Also not to mention that the dude himself admits to showing up at 9:08, which is late. I'm not sure why nobody brought that up at any point.", "How can the judge be laughing at this? You're supposed to be impartial, bitch!", "This is disgusting, no doubt about it. \n\nThis also shows the true failure of the school system. Screw taxes, learn how to show up early! Jiminy Christmas, so many problems could have been avoided for that poor fellow, just for sacrificing 15 minutes of sleep.", "It's reddit? You click on things.", "Sounds like you need a contrabulous fabtraption", "Incorrect. 100% incorrect. Immune from what, I ask? \n\nthe Judge here can and will be removed from the bench. I assume it will be done by the Judicial conduct comish, but could also be removed by the leglislature. \n\nThe real question is whether the judge will be prosecuted or disbarred after removal, as she did commit criminal acts from the bench.", "If I'm ever on a jury I will never convict anybody on the word of a police officer alone. Hell I'd consider that evidence in the defence's favor if that's all they have to put forward.", "Bail doesnt even make sense in the electronic age where it's near impossible to hide for very long.\n\nEventually someone fleeing uses their credit card, calls a friend, logs on to the instragram, their license plate gets spotted by an autoreader on a cop car, etc. \n\nIt is a vaninshingly small fraction of the population that can successfully drop off the grid completely at a moments notice and not fuck up in some way that leaves them easily traceable.", "/r iamatotalpieceofshit", "And he knew what kind of representation he’d get if didn’t plead guilty", "From one racist shit hole to another. How tragic.", "$45k vs pulling a dirty judge", "Fucking disgusting & everyone in there needs arrested.\n\nThey also need to be disbarred so they never work in the courts ever again.", "Just called the Utah Judicial Performance Evaluation Commission, operator said that this judge no longer sits.", "Disbar the attorneys, get that judge off the bench. Makes me fucking sick. If you can't trust your own lawyer, who can you trust? What a disgrace to the legal system.", "Absolutely. And the language used in his gofundme is very, very loaded. This feels like only one side of a complicated story.\n\nWhere does that whispered audio come from?\n\nMan, is this a grift?", "a corrupt judge always results in a 100% corrupt courtroom staff, baliffs, court reporters, prosecutors and defenders. It always goes that way.", "That's a disturbingly low number.", "Ugh, and those *shoes!!!*", "more harassment from the person who follows me around on social media and tells lies about me? I'm still a human being. \n\n\nOh, and penis envy is a Freudian diagnosis - not sexism. If you'd leave the basement and get an education you might know that. Go read a book.", "51,000,000 immigrants (by far the most of any country in the world) who could've chosen to go almost anywhere else apparently disagree with you.", "Funny that you'd think the public defenders would have that power...", "The first PD I had was doing exactly this. She didn't give a damn what happened. She just wanted the case closed. I went to speak with her at her office and she even got in my face, told me I was guilty, and that I should plead guilty. \n\nThis was for an assault charge for throwing a beanie baby at someone.. People really fucking suck sometimes.", "It would be nice if it was for *all* of us wouldn't it?", "> can and does investigate\n\nAnd then, what? Writes a report about it? 500 dollar fine, perhaps?", "Since when did you need to ask permission to perform as a sword swallower!?", "This is all on the judge. It's her job to judge the prosecution and the defense, too. They are not a team. She's 100% partial. She's held them to no standard.", "IF you can help it, stay off the state’s radar. This is commonplace everywhere.", "Then you are privileged more than the vast majority of people in this country. \n\nTake a moment and thank your parents today", "Freud is a hack and this post is on the front page. I'm not following you, you're just inserting yourself and your anecdotes wherever you can. Grow up.", "Depends on the country, in places like Thailand you can get decades for a dime bag", "My point directly refuted your argument that suing the city fixes it, when it's by no means guaranteed. The supreme court has already ruled that in cases like this the homeowner is SoL and it's not on the city.", "I saw a video of ICE harassing a native as if he were an undocumented immigrant. While on reservation territory.\n\nHe called tribal police and they tried to arrest the ICE agent and ICE agent fled from the Tribal police. Then tribal police officer is like we got his plate number right and calls up the secretary of Indian affairs. \n\nHey Echo (Name of secretary of Indian affairs during Obama administration) yeah ICE agent harassing our citizens on our land again. Here's his plate number. He fled from us trying to detain him. \n\nI really hope the story after the YouTube video involved that ICE agent getting back to base and his boss is like \"Why did the 15th in line of the presidential order of succession call me about who was driving a car with license plate xxxxxxxx. And why is the vice president's chief of staff waiting for an update call at 3PM?\"", "45k is years salary for people living paycheck to paycheck. \n\nIt's 2 years of savings for someone trying to afford a down payment on their first home.\n\nIt's 45 trips to Disneyland\n\nIt's at LEAST 2 Starbucks cappuccinos for a millennial trying to just make it in the fast paced world of black market ferret sales", "> But frankly - many of those people need to tend to their own damn house first\n\nWhile you're not wrong, not many other countries are so aggressively horrible on a global scale, complete with \"Make [X Country] Great Again!\"", "Where though? Is that a federal thing or a state law?", "grow up? you're the one making slanderous lies about people. go learn something. go DO something vice just trying to troll others for your entertainment. now good day to you.", "It takes a special concentrated piece of bootlicking dog shit to display the cowardice you just did. You still for nothing when there is evidence right here to prove you wrong.", "Hahaha 🤣", "This is why they worked so hard to convict him.", "He showed up to his 0900 court appointment at 0907. We're supposed to take his word that he's never been late in prior engagements as they claim. They were wrong in asserting he was hours late, but he was late.\n\nAnd the video is cut by the guy purporting this, so we also need to assume it tells the full story.", "Oh very vigorous maritime legal standards!", "*< looks over at the judge and prosecutor >*\n\n🙄", "I know that... I meant morally and emotionally. not cold unfeeling logic... I feel like anyone with a soul would have to push that one off to someone else. at least I couldn't do it and still sleep at night...", "Why did the end say something about the 'honorable' judge? There was nothing honorable about her...", "The same judge in this video was given the case and decided against mr. Sanchez", "Whats the secret? How do you get people off, surely most people take breathalyzers or fail a roadside test? If I get a DWI can I say the right words and get off?", "I'm Canadian so I only ever heard about this on TV, and when I was younger it seemed so fucking weird that rich bad guys got to go free and poor ones didn't. I couldn't understand how money factored in to whether it's safe to let an alleged murderer loose or not. \n\nBy the way, I don't know if it actually works that way, that's just the kid version I had that I never corrected. Maybe you can't get bail when you're picked up for a triple homicide haha\n\nRegardless, it really makes no sense for money to be involved in the legal system at all, yet it seems to be very intentionally designed around it.", "Sorry the US is the best period. No other country offers what the US does and you have the US to thank for 90% of all recent innovations.\n\nOther countries are good, but the land of the free is still the best.", "Lol your prefer genocidal Chinese government ? Or the be obedient or else Russian government instead?", "LOL, no. This won't even get a private reprimand. And judges have absolute judicial immunity from civil suits for their judicial actions.", "Always so funny when y'all can't handle criticisms, calls for improvement, decrying of corruption without defaulting to this childish-ass \"Well it could be worse! Stop complaining!\"", "Lol look at this guy thinking they wouldn't just imprison everyone who previously would have had bail.", "First lesson to be gleaned is never be late, even 5 mins.", "Very stressful to watch after having been through similar corruption at my work.", "He pleased guilty because his life was being ruined for fighting it.\n\nIt is incredibly easy to falsy arrest someone for DUI. Especially of your dash cam \"malfunctions\" and your body cam footage \"magically\" disappears. \n\nQuit licking boots.", "irrelevant. Justice was served in 5 acquittals and 2 dismissed charges.", "So I watched the video.\n\nThey were all annoyed that he wont show up on time, so they issued a warrant, and then he proceeds to not show up on time? I realize 7 minutes isn't that big of a deal, and it probably wouldn't be if he wasn't doing it habitually.\n\nI really don't see how this video exonerates the guy. It literally shows him doing exactly what the warrant is issued for.\n\nIt probably isn't proper for a defense attorney to have weighed in on this though, so probably they're going to have to pay somehow.\n\nI also realize that it's really common for people in western society to be habitually late to everything these days, so maybe a lot of you see 9:07 as being on-time for a 9:00 meeting. Let me tell you though, you people are infuriating when a room full of us are sitting there having our time wasted.", "I didn't make an argument like that.", "In Canada you only get legal aid if you are pleading guilty", "Welcome to UT. Their whole system and practically every working in it are like this.", "Pretty unAmerican.", "45k is a lot of money when you're potentially on the wrong end of an expensive lawsuit. Wealthy people get bankrupted by legal bills even if they're in the right.", "Can you imagine joyfully fucking around with someone's entire life circumstance for kicks?", "That's Abingo.", "We are bound by the laws of economics as much at the laws of physics. Looking at everything the state has a monopoly on from an economic perspective cleanly explains why they get away with what they do.", "All involved should be jailed for years. A complete corruption of the justice department", "They made him take his complaint about the Court to the same judge, who found no wrong-doing.", "Source on that? I have my doubts they let the same judge handle the case.", "It's on all of them. They all repeatedly violated numerous ethical duties.", "If you’re going to genuinely bitch about a choice your lineage made for a better life ( or even agree with the sentiment), then no shit it’s going to be a thing.\n\nDo you think it was easy for them to move to America? Do you think it was easy for them to settle down and get started here? Do you think they had a surplus of cash and that’s why they made the move? Stop being dumb.", "And they can't be made of cardboard!", "If he was charged with DUI and resisting arrest then he was obviously arrested", "Wisconsin statute 948.60 (3)(c) details the exemption. 941.28 is the law regarding barrel length.", "Simply answering the question why state employees get away with what they do. Same reason police literally get away with murder. No alternatives.", "Yes. Most states are just map fillers", "How's that boot taste?", "Ankle bracelets don't prevent people from assaulting their domestic partners or dealing drugs from their house.\n\nYour argument addresses the flight risk element of bail but not the risk of reoffending.", "I wouldn't set foot in the US if you paid me to do it.\n\nThese other commenters saying \"Oh this happens everywhere, the US is good because you can see it!\" are fucking delusional.\n\nLike the guy in a gun thread that tried to say that spree killings happen everywhere at about the same frequency as the US, just with knives instead of guns.", "Paging killdozer...", "Wow, you're a racist.", "Have you gone to the local news about this story?", "Got em.", "The judge was the most unprofessional judge I’ve ever seen", "I agree with the sentiment but it's not heresay.", "Good. We have plenty of people who want to come here as it is. Stay wherever you are.", "Most definitely a JoJo reference and I’m pissed I have ctrl + f your comment", "The snide smaile the judge makes when hes taken into custody...... Needs to be wiped off with a hammer", "Anything can be a dildo if you're brave enough.", "No he wasn't. He was there by 9 waiting for his case to be called. They called his case early on purpose then issued a warrant for him being late before his time had even come up, then they waited to call him in to make it seem like he was late.", "The state merely outsources the housing and feeding of prisoners to the lowest bidder. That is a red herring and in no way a \"free market\". State still owns the entire process.", "I worked in bail bonds for over a year when I was younger and that shit is completely broken. Only good thing about it was getting a 87 Oldsmobile cutlass as a lean because they didn’t pay their bail off. Also had to deal with a LOT of crackheads and that shit worried me to much. Also some pedophiles and I don’t ever want to help a pedo get out of jail. Specially a school teacher who was molesting his students. His parents had to put their house down as a lien. My greedy boss wanted their Dodge Challenger too but money value and stuff is very fickle.", "It's a weird scenario as a drunk person doesn't make great decisions, so you're expecting them to choose the correct path by weighing the consequences while they're sloshed.\n\nThat's why the harsh penalties don't change the behavior much, they're drunk when making the choice.\n\nDWI is very terrible and thankfully decreased thanks to Uber/Lyft and other resources. Hopefully we can keep evolving solutions like self driving cars etc. to eliminate DWI deaths.", "They don't have nearly enough room in jails for that.", "Imagine going to a shithole country like the USA and getting arrested and going to trial there", "Falsifying court documents uuuuh yeah that's more than slightly illegal.", "Hold on, Sanchez was late.", "its more funny that the public defenders and Salt Lake Legal Defender Association are being defended by a private attorney, Mike Skolnick. Sad more wasted tax dollars and since hes probably country club buddies with the judge nothing will change. \n\n​\n\nHopefully something will change from this but sadly the system will continue with the new understanding from judge down is to make your deals off camera/mike", "It seems like she's just a brown nosing lackey to the great power of ye judge.", "The judge, prosecution and defense attorney are all bitches and assholes.", "He was 5-7 mins late but it wouldn't have mattered anyway because they called his case 15 mins before he had to be there.", "Canadian justice system is no different. Targets poor and indigenous people in just the same way.", "this shit happens all the time and not just salt lake. i spent a year in jail uncharged because my public defender did the same god damn thing. while i was in there i heard stories, this seems to be pretty routine.", "No legislature can repeal the laws of economics. The results we see are monopoly behavior - plain and simple.", "Which is why you'll never be on a jury.\n\nBoth the prosecution and defense want jurors who will listen to and accept their arguments at face value, not go twelve angry men and start independently investigating.", "Judge and both attorneys should be disbarred and face jail time. But won’t cause this is America.", "Same dude! Considering how some people get falsely accused ofteen. Like the guy who was accidentally accused by the Lovely Bones author and cops falsified the info to make an arrest.", "When you realize leftists don't care about poor people or anything else they claim to care about, but are actually driven by jealousy, envy, hatred, etc then things make a lot more sense", "Hear hear.\n\n\nI can't think of anyone I'd trust *less* on the stand", "Yes, the US isn't very interested in evidence-based rehabilitation. We seem to be all about punitive action and making examples of people. Again, and again, and again. As if the next draconian measure will be the final deterrent that reduces crime.", "Bruh it literally was just a joke.", "Yeah. Being late once because of an accident would likely be fine. Being late all the time and being known for it is an entirely different situation.", "I'm sure this has been posted before.", "You're not stupid, you're a good person. Don't let anybody tell you different.\n\nIt's one thing to get taken in unawares. It's entirely another to know somebody is likely to take advantage of you and yet lovingly give them the opportunity anyway.", "He's just looking for that big bull to take care of his partners needs.", "Ok", "Plenty of people get killed by distracted, sleep-deprived, or just outright bad drivers too. Why don't we punish those things equally?", "I think that are two main problems with your statement:\n\n1. if you start defining \"problems\" and \"wealthy countries\" you'll find it's not really true. Sure you can always find a single country as an example for any given problem or lack thereof, but you can just as easily cherry pick to provide a counterexample. Let's take the recent abortion news as an example (assuming your politics imply that access to abortion is \"good\" - full disclosure, this is my belief as well). Many people would consider the imminent change to federal abortion law to be an example of a \"problem\" in the USA. HOWEVER, Of the top 10 [richest countries](https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/the-richest-countries-in-the-world.html) in the world, currently four of them (Qatar, UAE, Brunei, San Marino) have MORE restrictive abortion laws than the US. (Unless by \"wealthy\" you secretly meant \"white\"?). Not to mention that the change to federal law still allows states to manage the legality themselves. Even after Roe V Wade is off the books, several of the largest states (CA, NY, NJ, IL, all of New England, etc.) will see no change. This is maybe 100 million people (back of napkin math).\n\n2. it's important to remember that the US is a very large federation, and it's easy to cherry pick a \"bad\" part to highlight a problem and (incorrectly) apply to the entire country. As an example:\nThe lowest ranked state by [Human Development Index](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_Human_Development_Index) is Mississippi, with 0.871. This ranks 37th in the world. Not great! But still above countries like Portugal, Chile, Qatar, Russia, and Malaysia.\nThe highest ranking state is Massachusetts, with a HDI of 0.956. This compares to Norway, which is the highest **in the world**.\nMassachusetts has a bigger population than Norway (and comparable to the other 5 highest countries per HDI). Is it fair to compare Norway to MA? Or Norway to the US as a whole? It's complicated.", "I've said it before and I'll say it again; America is a third world country. They just happen to have more amenities than most other third world countries", "It’s so easy to tell the idiots from jokers online.", "https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/ra32cw/mans_own_defence_lawyer_conspires_with_the/hng6582/", "A pot brownie can get you two years in Texas.", "Oh it will. Give it time. Justice is right around the corner", "I'd have told them to add 4 zeros, and they'd still have come out ahead.\n\nImagine how many cases are going to end up being retroactively thrown out because these people were involved?\n\nThe judge, the prosecution, the defense. All clearly corrupt.\n\nThe sum of cases that they have collectively been involved in is *massive.*", "While I do not want to defend the worst crimes you can imagine that come from violence, I still hold that corruption is worse. It isn't just ' rich oil guy get government money illegally'. It says to everyone that the rules that hold our system together do not matter. Our society is actually much more fragile then people think. A trust in institutions is necessary for it to function, and breaking that trust can result in the system collapsing. Millions of peoples lives depend on that.\n\nWhen it comes to torture or other acts of violence the main question that I ask myself is 'does this person's life hold any value or could it hold value'. If the answer is 'no' then capital punishment seems to be responsible. But you really really have to examine the answer. Both what is value in life, and how you assessed it.", "Oh, my apologies, I totally got lost in the thread and thought your comment was in reference to something else (situations similar to the Seacat demolishing).", "I know my spurs go jingle jangle jingle.", "the payout was the feeling of power and immunity", "Dude no joke. Run these people over.", "He needs to get out of that state asap. There is no way I would live in any of those deeply religious states.", "There’s literally camps in Australia for asymptomatic people testing positive w Covid", "The lawyer should get disbarred", "10 minute long videos?!", "This is not the justice system being broken. It’s the justice system working exactly as intended.", "The US may be a bully when you look at their competitors you might want to wait before convincing them to retire.", "All I feel is rage.", "It's that partiality that will get you removed from the Jury selection.", "This case is more than year old now what's the status on it? Couldn't find much on google except the go fund me couple month back.", "Or this very thread?", "The judge should too.", "Defendants should always have a fair trial. \n\nYes even when we hate them", "Update on the guys GoFundMe Page from August 21.\n\n>14 August 2021\nby Luis Sanchez, Organiser\nThank you so much for all your help and support! I am beyond grateful and amazed at the amount of support I have received.\n\n>The lawsuit continues advancing thanks to you!\n\n>I have been in contact with an attorney that will be taking video depositions of the attorneys and the director of Salt Lake Legal Defender Association (“SLLDA”).\n\n>It will be interesting to see how they all attempt to justify their actions. I need to know why Richard Mauro, the director of SLLDA, did nothing after I reported the incident.\n\n>I have been investigating another case of misconduct by another public defender that may be able to prove that what happened to me is not an isolated event. I will soon be reporting my findings of the investigation and will also go deeper into the inactions of SLLDA in addressing complaints of misconduct by their attorneys.\n\n>It may be an illegal pattern of behavior that SLLDA takes part of while representing their clients.\n\n>The lawsuit will likely go to trial. The attorneys and Salt Lake Legal Defender Association refuse to accept any responsibility for what they did.\n\n>Know that no amount of money they offer will persuade me to give up my determination to seek justice and to evoke change.\n\n>Multiple times SLLDA tried to force me to remove the video from the internet. First by way of a settlement agreement and then by court order. But I fought and here we are. It is a very powerful and distinct determination when you know you’re doing something for a cause that is grater than you.\n\n>This case of corruption allows us to see the government for what it truly is. I have vast amounts of evidence showing the corruption or at minimum gross incompetence by police officers, pd records department, public defenders, the courts, the Utah State Bar Association, and the Attorney General’s office. With so much evidence and after being reported to multiple agencies, nothing has been done. Nothing.\n\n>These agencies receive millions of dollars by way of compulsory taxation. They take a significant amount of people’s income before a person ever sees that money. The government’s sole purpose for existing is to protect us. The institution of government is not only failing at protecting but it now has turned into a tool of oppression and victimization.\n\n>We need to hold corrupt officials accountable. We need to demand it. We can’t let our society deteriorate even more.\n\n>With all this said, I believe I have been targeted by the Unified Police Department. I will soon be releasing a video where the UPD unlawfully pulls over my car while a female friend was driving and I was the passenger. This occurred in April of this year. You will see the interaction and will understand why I believe I may be facing retaliation.\n\n>Nonetheless, I will continue doing my part in exposing these agencies in my attempt to evoke change. I will go as far as I can. I don’t know what may happen to me in the end but I am willing to face the consequences.\n\n>In anticipation for trial I have increase the amount of money I seek in this gofundme campaign.\n\n>I will periodically be posting updates on the lawsuit.\n\n>Again, thank you for your support and for allowing me to continue seeking change and justice.", "ROMEO! ROMEO!", "Special note that in some areas (might be state, might be county?) a public defender isn't a *free* defender. You have the right to an attorney, but not the right to a free one.\n\nDepending on a lot of factors, you're still on the hook for attorneys fees when you use a state-appointed lawyer. America hates the poor.", "Ah, Utah. Where feelings are treated like knowledge. I've had to mention quite a few times to people here that if you can't *show* it, you don't *know* it.", "The snoot would droop.", "And there are mormons", "Damn bro you’re from Oklahoma. I might hit you up if I ever need some consultation.", "Yes, I think it was easy for my ancestors to move to America. They were puritan trash.", "Hey, at least we have baseball", "Yeah man; this dudes life isn’t going to get *better* while he’s fighting Goliath. God bless him in this fight 🙏🏼", "It’s exactly that. The corrupt got corrupted by having endless resources including taxpayer money to cover up their misdeeds. Most of us would like to think we’d turn down the pittance they offered but in reality, when the other option is losing every dime, your home, food, on top of continued police harassment, I don’t blame a soul for choosing the pennies to make it all go away", "Bruh he’s a racist. Choose a different hill to die on.", "This is fair. Not only has the USA been aggressive, it's also just...big. So its weight is felt a lot more. But I think you would find that if Canada (for example) had a population of 350million it would be just as obnoxious. Go out to the Canadian Prairies and amplify the politics there up to US scale (or reanimate Rob Ford and make him the governor of New Jersey...).\n\nIronically I think a lot of the MAGA stuff is MORE isolationist than recent neoliberal American politics has been, and in some respects would turn the \"globally aggressive\" stuff on its head.\n\nEDIT to expand on \"ironically\": a lot of the international community HATED Trump, but some of his more isolationist policies were probably in line with what some vocal portion of the international populace has been asking for. If those policy proposals had been coming from Bernie instead of Trump they might have been received differently.", "I wish i made 45k salary", "Except for violent crimes.\n \nDomestic abusers getting out is a recipe for disaster", "Or the fact that even public defense lawyers will have to be repaid, meaning that poor people can end up in high debt for no fault of their own.\n\n[Or maybe police just blows up your house and leaves you homeless without compensation.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/10/30/police-blew-up-an-innocent-mans-house-search-an-armed-shoplifter-too-bad-court-rules/)\n\nOr they just straight up steal your money and claim it as asset forfeiture.\n\nOr they just kill you because you could, hypothetically, have had a gun somewhere and the fact that you were still moving could, hypothetically, been you trying to reach for it.", "They'll build more jails if it is profitable.", "Damn this is one of the scummiest things I've ever seen. The balls to do this while be recorded", "oh, and you should really be careful who you tell lies about and slander. If I was still practicing I'd probably sue you ... or at least make sure that any state licensing agencies knew that someone wishing their endorsement has a propensity for misrepresentation and lies. Plus Lawyers generally don't prefer their employees to be liars.", "I hope this guy can go as far as he can with this.", "THIS IS FUCKING DISGUSTING. \nBIG surprise, it’s in Utah too. Corrupt virtue signaling “Christian’s”", "Bail wouldn't prevent these things either", "Only if the Bar Association is willing to act.", "Hahahaha this is why the uk is so fucked. \"He's a racist so it's ok he was maliciously prosecuted.\" Absolutely spineless.", "Ah yes the only 3 countries that exist are the USA, China, and Russia.\n\nSuch a typical American mindset", "How? He tried to report and sue over this. He was forced to go through the same court and judge who dismissed the case. They're all still gainfully employed and committing the same crimes. The man plead guilty.", "yikes", "/r/confidentlyincorrect", "This sort of hyperbolic ‘muh privatize’ gotcha response is pretty common on this site. One thing that used to unite people was criticizing government; now some people are just ideologically invested in bureaucracy. It’s long been said the state has a monopoly on violence and they have a monopoly on “justice” too.\n\nPs- not advocating private justice system just criticizing govt", "Dude Disney is waaaay more than that, unless you live in Orlando", "> lingering DUI case\n\nOne in which he asked for the officer's body cam footage of his arrest, which was .. \"malfunctioning\" apparently and then the Salt Lake PD illegally deleted all of the footage.", "That's very insulting.", ">Is it a mistake when people choose over and over to drive drunk and only occasionally get caught? That's not a mistake, it's a choice.\n\n1) if people are choosing to drive drunk despite the consequences you deem appropriate, what does \n\n2)That's called alcoholism, and alcoholics notoriously don't care about consequences. Nothing about DUO sentencing attempts to address addiction while putting up huge barriers to recovery.", "Yeah, most likely.", "Also the ones calling them bullies tend to have their own skeletons in the closet they're trying to distract from.", "You know what I’ve never done on any trip to a foreign nation? Interrogated the residents of that nation about anything. I assume they participate in their governance to the extent possible and are either happy with what they have, or are powerless to change it. Either way, my ability and right to influence things there is absolutely zero. As an outsider how their country is set up is none of my fucking business. As for residents and safety, I can make your statement about a great number of other countries and think you’re confused about how our nation truly is outside of headlines. Significant chunks of the Middle East, parts of Central and South America, China, parts of Africa, some parts of Russia are very dangerous for a lot of westerners.", "You don't have freedom of speech", "I would note that the Killdozer guy did not run over any person, or actually kill anyone but himself. He caused property damage only.", "No. I'm a supporter of showing up on time to important things.", "stone ocean lol", "Its hard not to loose hope in our future", "You're not being patriotic. You're being a nationalist.\n\n “Loyalty to country always. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.” — Mark Twain.", "Then you know nothing. Lmfao. Your lineage looks down on you. \n\nFollowing your logic, you should have a pretty easy time moving too, right?", "America imprisons more people per capita than any other country in the world.", "Almost all public court houses are being recorded. I used to go to college for broadcasting and extra credit stuff involved going to our local city hall and recording their meetings etc.\n\nI loved one time when I overheard the local PD being asked why they had 8 - 10 brand new Dodge chargers sitting in their parking lot with no miles being clocked on them.\n\nThey didn't have a good answer for that IIRC.", "Yeah, violent crimes would pretty much be the only ones that would qualify in my mind. Even then, I'd be in favor of considering things like work release. \n\nShould be least disruptive for everyone while ensuring safety.", "It looks like he may have sued the police department and won $1000 in 2014? So maybe this was retaliation? \n\nhttps://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/5629830/Sanchez\\_v\\_Unified\\_Police\\_Department\\_of\\_Greater\\_Salt\\_Lake\\_et\\_al", "I took a few seconds to look at the Utah AG website after watching this.\n\nI immediately saw the big red \"ALERT\" at the top of the Utah Attorney General webpage.\n\n\"Biden’s Administration Announces Expansion of Utah Monuments, Utah Expresses Disappointment\"\n\nI didn't know a state could express anything as a whole. Apparently the Utah AG believes he is Utah? From what I understand Biden returned the land back to the National Monuments that the previous administration took away. \n\n\nSo the top priority of the AG is trying to exploit the previously protected National Monuments land containing over 100,000 sites of archeological importance because some rich guys want to make more money by looking for natural resources to loot.\n\nIt took me literally 1 second to see that the AG doesn't give a fuck about us peasants.\n\nWho wants to protect the few pristine natural habitats we have left when we can clear-cut them and set up drill rigs to fatten some old rich guy's offshore tax free bank accounts? Apparently the Utah AG feels this injustice is the top priority.\n\nOur legal system is mostly just a tool for rich people to get what they want. How can you expect justice when a vast majority of the system sees us as serfs and fodder.", "does it give advice on what to do when you were the victim of unimaginably horrible and intentional malpractice, like the kind of thing that the dr should be spending life in prison for, and then the new Drs you went to for help ended up lying in their reports again to help cover for the original Dr instead of helping? \n\nasking for a friend. He needs a lawyer and a dr that will actually help instead of covering up for the corrupt dr. but there's probably not enough proof for any lawyer to be interested in helping him, especially now that more corrupt drs have fucked him with more false reports. he has ptsd too and it's pretty tough to just talk about it at all, so it's tiring tryign to get help and having this result...", "Yeah, these people need to go to jail and be personally sued and held liable for what they did. If people know you don't have a fair court system, then the rest starts to fall apart.", "Utah especially, they hate anyone who isn’t glowing white and LDS. \nThis poor guy deserves more than he’s asking and both lawyers and judge belong in prison", "for starters, there's a law against driving drunk. which i don't think anyone will say \"it makes no sense\". so one could argue that driving in the states you mentioned maybe needs a bigger punishment, but i'm not gonna argue that deciding to get drunk and then drive (a decision usually made BEFORE getting drunk) should have a lighter punishment.", "Unlawful imprisonment is a criminal offense and they should be charged as such.", "This some Jojo shit wtf", "Call me crazy, but I think lawyers should be like doctors in countries with universal healthcare. They should be free and easily accessible. All lawyers should be \"public\".\n\nMy reasoning is that, like doctors, everyone needs one at some point and you don't know when. They are essential to keep contemporary society functioning.", "I personally know about 8 people who have DUIs who never even showed the slightest intent to drive their vehicle, but that was the justification used to nail them with the charge. It's frighteningly common to get a DUI while sleeping in the back seat of your vehicle with the keys nowhere near the ignition. I actually know very few people with DUIs that I feel like truly deserved it or were being a danger to others, and most people I know weren't even driving the car at the time. One of my friends slept on my friends couch because he felt like he shouldn't drive (we weren't even going that hard, just drinking beers and watching sports, but he didn't wanna risk it), and then got a DUI driving to work the next morning, over 9 hours after he had his last beer the night before. I guess all I'm trying to say is that I personally know more people who I feel had bogus DUI charges than people with legitimate ones.\n\nEdit: removed a redundant word.", "Mistrial!", "This video made me feel sick to my stomach", "I was contradicting a previous comment that implied they were all in collusion. I hardly see how what I wrote was worse. I'm saying that it isn't surprising that it occasionally happens.", "The laughing had my blood boiling. This is a man's life and they are literally laughing at him while they screw him over. These people are scum.", "Let's just hope some pitchforks will be in use in that area.", "something something o.j. simpson", "If it weren't for the family and friends of Ahmaud Arbery pushing past the DA in Georgia, his murderers wouldn't have been arrested and his case would never have been known.\n\nThis is not a healthy justice system", "Seriously. This is video evidence. They should be in prison. INAL but there *has* to be a crime here.", "Because *this* is fucking ***America.*** \n\nOur government and our justice system ***is*** statistically significantly racist.", "Evil AF how this judge and his admins play fucking games with people's lives. \n\nImagine being pulled from your life for two weeks without notice. How long until you lose your job or are unable to pay this or that bill?\n\nAnd the fat blond on the right side of the screen laughing as they locked up and ruined this dude's life?", "This is where “the media” comes into play - and it’s sad we don’t have better accountability to crooked cunts who snicker and laugh at their little schemes.\n\nBut the media and the subsequent attention forces hands into doing reviews and punishing people. It won’t be a big punishment - that only seems to happen ONLY at the worst types of offenders while fucks like this judge get slaps on the wrist. The only thing that can touch them is vigilantism.", "It's the court system's cash cow. So gross.", "So what does a criminal justice system that allows for competition and choice look like to you?", "mormons. They claim christ but theyre a Joseph Smith cult. The book of Abraham is fake motherfuckers.", "We’re fucked because a racist got fined £800? Wow, low bar.", "Who the fuck shows up 8min late fuck this guy he deserves man when I fucked up I was there 1hr early sitting around no phones nothing just time to think how stupid I was.", "> police conveniently illegally deleted body cam footage and precinct footage of his arrest\n\nWhat law did police break that makes it illegal?", "This is truly Kafkaesque..", "Another comment said he reported it to the bar association and they told him to take it to the court where it happened. He did and it was promptly dismissed, possibly by the same judge.", "Question: Why was he late? Wouldn't you be early for a court date even if there are lots of people? Not accusing him of any wrongdoing but where I'm from if you're not perfectly on time for legal procedures you're in deep shit. \n\nThe behavioir of judge and prosecution is just disgusting though.", "The fair functioning of the justice system is so dependent on the people in charge to be fair and unbiased. Unfortunately, they're humans and we aren't ever that.", "I've been to all those places, except China... Never had any issues..\n\nYou are wery much proving my point right now.. USA is not a great place to visit because everyone is so incredibly easily offended...\n\nIn Syria, for instance, I stayed two nights with a very religious rural farmer family.. After stating things like I am an atheist and I find believing in gods to act as a brake for scientific development... They didn't mind at all...\n\nIt's like... Idk.. You amerikans are so incredibly insecure about pretty much anything.. So insecure that just wanting to talk about things is automatically seen as an attack on everything you believe in and stand for..\n\nIt is wery tedious being around insecure people..", "Credit to you for trying to talk sense... He probably was 20 minutes late not 10 as well. lol.", "Meh, I'd act in bad faith then and keep my mouth shut but eyes and ears open. I'd do everything I can to get on a jury just to sabotage it.", "It's not incorrect, judges and prosecutors have absolute immunity from civil culpability in the course of their duties. Everyone talks about police and qualified immunity but doesn't realize it extends beyond police officers.", "I hope everyone associated with this scheme gets fired/disbarred/removed, and receives jail time. Egregious miscarriage of justice.", "I wish 45 was my yearly salary. If only my millennial ass could stop buying Mochas and avocado toast", "> Lawyers, public or private, swear an oath to among other things not do this shit.\n\nThat oath may as well be piss in the wind if there are no consequences for breaking it.", "There’s not one in my state. Never heard of it in CO. That’s the 2%. We don’t have what you take for granted in… wherever the heck you are. \n\nSo, what states have QT?", "They know(while sober) they will drive drunk again(i know several people that do this and think it's\"no big deal\") and put peoples lives in danger but don't care. It is a disease but a small on the wrist is not appropriate.", "You know it’s bad when the dude that was getting upvoted suddenly starts getting downvoted\n\nEven people who agreed with him are like “yikes”", "Wow you went from zero to patriot act there! I have had to spend a full day in court, long before the patriot act, and I made sure to arrive on time and be prepared to waste a day. But since it was my own fault I had to attend, I chalked it up to my own stupidity. But I did make sure not to compound the issue by being late or disrespectful to the 'men with all the power'. Like it or not, those with power have been abusing it since time began.", "Do you have a computer, internet, and basic math skills? It takes like a month to learn enough SQL to get a remote job paying 70k.", "This lawyer better watch out for mysterious strings wrapping around his neck.", "... what?", "Yeah that’s just their first offer I imagine. Tbh I wouldn’t be surprised if they tried to throw hundreds of thousands of dollars or maybe millions their way depending on how badly the evidence makes them look.\n\nNote: I am not an attorney and know very little about this case. I am a third year law student, though, and this seems fucked.", "As fake as all the others.", "I do as an American traveling anywhere. It gives me a better perspective on others deal with a complex situation. Why are you so touchy about this? No need to start name calling.", "Injustice system, made by the powerful, FOR the powerful.", "I think it's reasonable to argue that the punishment should not be lighter, per se, but that it should not be an ongoing punishment for the rest of your life. But moreover, the fact that there *isn't* a law against, say, sleep-deprived driving is a pretty good indicator that this isn't just about loss of life. This country has a history of treating alcohol as inherently bad, largely for religious reasons. Maybe that's just, and maybe it isn't, but it's not a good sign if asking makes you a bad person.", "Don’t drive drunk. And if you do and get caught, show up for your court date on time. Very simple to avoid this man’s situation.", "Salt Lake City? How much you wanna bet they all go to the same fucking church.", "You're delusional if you think anything will happen to this judge. They do whatever the fuck they want without any consequences", "\"mean\"...", "Maybe they didn't want spoilers? Sounds like they had a hell of a ride!", "This is the same state that was requiring people on public assistance to work for or even convert to the mormon church in order to continue receiving state aid.", "In a way it’s sometimes easier to turn down an insulting figure when you’re already broke. Sure it’s life changing. For a few minutes. Anyone savvy enough to get this far in a court action is savvy enough to know that’s not even worth the effort and there’s more coming.", "Pardon? Go on...", "Or if it’s not profitable. The problem with the system isn’t for profit institutions, that’s just a symptom of treasonous rot.", "Poor? It’s literally the richest country in the world.", "People need to understand something that's slightly counterintuitive.\n\nIf accused people and criminals don't have legal protections including those enumerated in the Bill of Rights, then ***NONE OF US*** have those rights.", "That's a significant amount of money for most people, particularly when they're being driven in poverty and debt by the court system. That might be enough for them to square their legal bills and have a little left over", "Well she was judging based on the fact his name was Sanchez.", "Sickening", "Dang dude, I had to check after reading this and you’re a perfect example of someone who is so privileged they don’t have a realistic grasp on money. I’d say 80% or more of your comment history is flexing about money in some way or another.", "Lmfao wow you sure proved them right. \n\nYikes lmao", "Except Sanchez had to appeal to the same judge and she dismissed the case. Justice served, perfect system.", "A comment", "[In a FAQ with the defendant](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6i1D_MI_Gs) he shows that Bar association responded telling him he must bring his complaints to the same court.", "So this is the live action Jojo part 6?", "They are really sorry that they got caught colluding, that won't happen again. Video cameras have been removed from the courtroom to ensure you won't see evidence of this ever in the future.", "The laughing was the grossest part to me. Like he wasn't a real person worthy of Justice. Why is our nation covered in corruption? Why was I sold a huge lie as a child?", "Lmao absolutely but if they tell you on the internet it’s almost guaranteed bullshit lol", "I had time on my hands :(", "“Honorable” Goodman, lol", ">\ttake his case to the same court that committed the crime against him. He filed suit and Judge Keith Kelly dismissed with prejudice (Legal term for permanently closing a case).\n\nBig mistake. He should have filed in federal court. He has federal claims. Would get him a higher quality adjudication. No way he should have filed with that same court.", "America is the worlds shit show!", "america as a whole needs to be radically changed.", "Is it better in other places? I'll take my chances of justice in the US, thanks. Granted this guy got fucked hard, but in general, justice in the US is taken seriously and diligently. We have a system using people as a standard by which we try to live up to and sometimes we don't. And when that happens, consequences need to come into play. That's all there is to it.", "Easy to turn down for an adult with stable finances.\n\nProbably real hard for a poor person who that might be a year or two of wages for, and who likely believes that not taking that money will lead to very bad things happening to them", "You think [white males](https://www.npr.org/2019/07/15/741756615/virginia-court-sentences-neo-nazi-james-fields-jr-to-life-in-prison) are privileged, imagine being a [Jewish woman](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lizzie_Grubman).", "Whole system is rigged.", "Judges can be disbarred by any bar association at any time for any reason.", "Subtract all of your outstanding loans/bills and if you still can’t afford a couple Tesla’s, don’t accept it. That’s the amount that would break me", "OP it’s trying to collect those association fees", "\"I just want to get this day over with, let's forget this guys rights and just take away his freedoms? What do you all think? I'll buy lunch!\"", "Yes, this is an America only problem. Did you know in Singapore, you only get a public defense if it's a capital crimes trial?", "How did he get another lawyer to review this?? Like this is fucking terrifying, and I want to know what people can do if they feel they are being legitimately fucked by their own defense attorneys? Especially if the guy had a public defender to begin with and didn’t have money to get his own attorney? Fuck man this is probably also not going to end in any punitive action against these criminals of the court. This is fucking evil.", "What can I do to help? How can I help make sure this doesn’t go ignored again? Genuine question.", "Excellent post.\n\n>Of the top 10 [richest countries](https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/the-richest-countries-in-the-world.html) in the world, currently four of them (Qatar, UAE, Brunei, San Marino) have MORE restrictive abortion laws than the US. (Unless by \"wealthy\" you secretly meant \"white\"?).\n\nAudibly said \"Ooohhh shiiiittt!\" at this line.", "More like 2 trips to Disneyland.", "FUCK YOU GUYS. The entire room was against him.", "I guess you meant laws.", "Yes he was. In an incredibly busy court room. You missed your time and you are done. You might as well have not been there until 11", "There was never any risk, they do this alll the time. There's no way anything will happen to them this is how the justice system works in this country.", "What if you're behind on rent and credit cards with kids to feed?", "This is why I am against also giving them the monopoly on anything else.\n\nAs an example, people need to be given the right to opt out of medicare, and not effectively be forced onto it at 65.", "Hilariously misinformed. Some of the public defenders I oppose are gold-standard attorneys. Some of the private attorneys are absolutely incompetents. Research who you have representing, stay active and involved in your case, and be reasonable. Most public defenders would never dream of something like this.", "Lmao I hadn’t gotten to the 45 trips part yet so when I read this comment I thought it was a joke about Disney costing $45000", "No it doesn’t as there is federal courts for example. Also judges can vary. You have multiple levels that go from your trial court judge to appeals to the Supreme Court of that state. \n\nEven if you get fucked over by one judge, it can be overturned in appeals. \n\nIt’s far from perfect, but it’s no where near what you’re describing. People have options when pursuing justice and just like in this case, they can sue when a wrong has been done to them.", "It works in plenty of other countries without that risk.", "They can remove judges. This judge should be removed.", "What a fucking joke", "Shit delusional Americans say", "this is what happens in nintendo lawsuits, im serious nobody believes it", "Dipshit comment of the day, and we aren't even at noon yet for Eastern Time. Bravo!", "Not insecure at all. I’m quite confident you’re wrong and I’m happy to tell you so. What I am pointing out how disrespectful and impolite your approach to engaging people is. Farmer in Syria - you’re staying in that person’s house and telling them their religion makes them backwards. That’s a straight up insult to their agency and intelligence. Just because they didn’t throw you out in the night doesn’t mean you weren’t being an asshole.", "I think your standards are a bit high for a conversation that starts with an obviously ill willed lie as an insult. /u/jaidau obviously has no intentions of any actual discussion or challenging their opinions of the US", ">Americans do\n\nSome Americans do.\n\nFixed that for you.", "Fuck these people, that's all I have to say.", "So you're saying the problem just can't be fixed and all the countries in the world that don't have bail and don't have cops imprisoning everyone because of it are just too different. We should not change clearly terrible things, because other terrible things will just happen. Got it.", "Bring back the guillotine, time for a class war", "can the bonding agency sue for their money back?\n\ndon't they have to foot the bill if he broke the bond condition? and if the judge calls a bad call, it looks like they are in the red.", "It's not really like doctors though. Everyone needs a doctor regularly, and people who need them more often, at least half of the time, have no control over it.\n\nLawyers are quite different. First, if they are public, there is no payoff to being good. You can be the shittiest lawyer ever and you would be the same as a good one, because you would both earn the same amount.\n\nThe second issue is often times, people who need a lawyer are those who commit crimes. Sure, there are real estate, estate, divorce lawyers, etc. but those are not the ones who act in this position anyway most of the time except for maybe in matters with family court.\n\nIf it is a public service, that means it is paid for by the taxpayers. So that is basically saying that the people who work the most and put the most money into taxes will get the least out of them, while raising taxes quite a bit. As I said, being a lawyer isn't necessarily easy, so the quantity and quality would already be dropping with this sort of implementation. But then to have everyone's taxes raised to benefit most the people who are basically on trial and in and out of jail their whole lives would never be supported by the general public nor the lawyers themselves.\n\nIt's just not a realistic expectation. Because not everyone does need a lawyer at some point. And even if someone does, needing care their whole life to stay alive (doctor) vs once ever to maybe stay out of jail (lawyer) is quite different. In my 30s, I still have never had a defense lawyer, nor has anyone in my family. Not my parents or my partner or anything.\n\nYet I know someone I went to school with who basically buys drugs from a dealer all day through uber rides and resells them, and he has needed lawyers about every 6 months since he turned 18. My whole family has always worked and contributed to the system financially. He has had a couple jobs for a few months and that's it. Try to explain to your average joe why he vs those who work and stay out of trouble should get so much of their taxes.\n\nIt just wouldn't go through. As unfortunate as it is for those who truly need better representation and who are treated unfairly in the justice system, it's not something that's realistic to expect. And in the US, there isn't even universal health care yet. That would probably be a better first step.", "This needs to go full viral.", "If deleting evidence is not illegal, then the legal system is too fucked to ever be redeemed.", "I can't say I agree with you entirely but I respect your ability to present a counter argument without being confrontational. Just wanted to say that I appreciate that and you taking the time to present a different perspective that I truly hadn't really thought about.", "Wasn’t he already arrested 💀", "Quit being dramatic, people get held accountable all the time. Not as often as they should but it's silly to pretend it doesn't", "45k is also 0.5 avocado toasts.", "These dumbasses are recording themselves doing it?", "We are soon to a point where law has to be recaptured by the people because law does NOT represent people anymore.", "Well then the word except was poorly chosen.\n\nAlso he got no money as the same judge dismissed his case.", "> Your lineage looks down on you. \n\nGood, feelings mutual. Fuck my shit lineage. \n\n> Following your logic, you should have a pretty easy time moving too, right?\n\nOh I didn't say it was impossible. Just that shitheads say \"wHY dOn'T YoU jUsT moVE\" as if it's a matter between choosing between Coke and Pepsi.", "https://mises.org/library/arbitration-disputes", "He could have been there at 8:55 waiting outside to be called inside, which they never would have called him because they did it all 15 minutes before they were supposed to. The crowd of people/confusion at the entrance to the courtroom also could've accounted for the 5-8 minutes he was late.", "It infuriates me that scum like this exist in the world, and people choose to shoot up schools instead.", "Everything I've mentioned is in your post history. But if you're going to make threats, I'll take screenshots. Not how I wanted to spend my morning but thanks for proving for the umpteenth time how enlightened you are, how far beyond the material realm and the ego you have transcended \n\nLiving on government pension: screenshotted\n\nClaim to be nuclear engineer in navy: screenshotted\n\nBuddhist retreat and teachers: screenshotted\n\nYou claim to be a lawyer and I offered skepticism based on conflicting statements sourced from *your own claims* you yourself published on Reddit.", "Ok,👌", "And you wonder why people don’t trust the Justice system", "He’d make more if he wins. And by the look of it there is no way in hell he loses. Americans love their fifth amendment", "How is it insulting to say $45,000 is not a lot of money?", "I mean the only gun problem we got is everybody keeps shooting the wrong people.", "Court: “Next time you’re late, you’re going into custody.” \n\nSanchez: “Arrives late.”\n\nCourt: “Take him into custody.”\n\n*OUTRAGE*", "What did he do that would make his defense lawyer turn on him?", "Dudes lucky he didn't fucking kill somebody driving drunk.", "This makes no reference to criminal law, it’s about voluntary arbitration of disputes. We’re talking about criminal law.", "1) Nobody cares about your anecdotal experience with drunk drivers. Policy should be created based on facts, academic study, and desired results, not the tiny bubble in which you live.\n\n2) If they know, while sober, the consequences of driving drunk yet choose to do so anyways, then that is further evidence that DUI sentencing as it exists isn't effective or useful.", "Greasy", "Found a Bigot", "The country isnt poor, in fact its never been richer", "Only 3 have the ability for global control. Don’t be naive. Who else would? Mongolia? Ghana? Argentina?", "Who the fuck cares about living in a country with the “ability of global control”? What about countries with the highest standard of living? Norway, Denmark, Switzerland, Canada etc.?\n\nAgain, such a typical American mindset.", "In the USA the poor people have been convinced they are middle class.", "Hearsay is an out of court statement. The cop can just testify as to what happened.", "No, I meant ethical duties. The conversation i replied to was about disbarment. Lawyers get disbarred for violating their ethical duties/rules of professional conduct.", "I’m usually pro the legal system, but this was disgusting. The judge constantly giggling, the lawyers lying, the bailiff not stepping up to contend the statement, it’s all wrong on so many levels.", "Capitalism commodifies everything", "Because the Justice system in the US is a joke and our politicans dont give a shit (Im talking about Democrats and Republicans)", "The case wasn’t against the judge that dismissed it.\n\nOne is a woman, the other is not.", "Because nothing wrong happened. Just everyone in the court sick of the defendant's shit. Watch the video while ignoring the biased framing.", "Damn jojos bizarre adventure stone ocean is supposed to be fiction", "If you do, here's a ProTip (this doesn't always work, but improves your odds for sure): be white", "Judge is supposed to do his or her job. Doesn't matter who respects them or not.", "Federal = The State…I’m not just talking about Utah here…\n\nFederal appellate courts hear a lot of DUI cases in your research?\n\nThe government has monopoly of the criminal justice system, full stop. Nothing incorrect in what I described. Read the follow to OP case, his suit was unsuccessful. Spoiler: another gov’t employee threw out the case.", "Didn't we find out this was a heavily edited video and the times he states are not accurate?", "That's fair enough, a personal decision and I would not look down on you either way, but some people's morals simply cannot be bought when they know they are in the right and corruption put them in the wrong.\n\nAgain, I'm not judging your or anyone else's stance but I do admire him for not backing down.", ">Do you have a computer, internet, and basic math skills? It takes like a month to learn enough SQL to get a remote job paying 70k.\n\n*Presses X to doubt. *", "Stone Ocean", "I knew before the video even started that the defendant wasn't white. The justice system always goes the extra mile to fuck over black and brown people. Their giddiness about screwing him over said it all.", "That's a feature of the system, not a bug.", "Reminds me of my experience with low level courts. So in my state you can pay $15 and get an audio CD of court proceedings. Usually it goes fine but in one jurisdiction, the clerk has it out for anyone who requests records. She basically doxxes anyone who requests records by adding them as a party to the case, displaying their info on the docket, along with their home address. She did that to me and now my name shows inside some criminal cases when you search it like I'm somehow involved. It's creepy, my name is between the plaintiff/state & defendant as a \"payor.\" Whatever that means.\n\nBut I found she stopped adding me as a party to cases after about the 4th or 5th request (when it became clear I wasn't going to be intimidated). I saw a clear opportunity for some trolling so I emailed her and requested she add my name to those cases because I purchased the \"advertising package.\"\n\nNow if I so wanted to, I could pay $15 and get my name (or any name I choose) added to serious murder cases. It's advertising!", "Every victim of racism is actually the racist, and every racist is just misunderstood when he \"tells it like it is\"", "This should be up higher. The post saying the case has been dismissed is incorrect.", "But then how will rich people avoid jail? The change you propose would treat rich people as if they were worthless poor people./s", ">Our government and our justice system is statistically significantly racist.\n\nIn criminal proceedings I wholeheartedly agree - you can see it by the disparities in incarceration rates for drug crimes especially. I also agree that in jury trials there can be a predisposition to judge defendants of color, and some jurisdictions are worse than others in this respect.\n\nHere, however, we are talking about a civil proceeding - he would not be on trial. He would be proving damages he incurred based on actions by his attorney, the prosecutor, and the judge. There is cut and dry video evidence, so the question isn't does he get paid it is what is the dollar figure of damages that he incurred. $1 million payout does seem high after looking into some similar settlements but $250k+ seems guaranteed here\n\nRacist sentiments that lead to POC receiving harsher sentences and an overall higher incarceration rate doesn't really translate to lessening the value of damages that they incur", "> his case is so obvious and easy to understand for the average person\n\nTrue on that, liars love to use the arcane obfuscation tactics against people all the time. I swear its a code to other lawyers to leave this one alone, all for one and that shit. Motion to dismiss based on kelo/roe/alien sedition act, refiling under special master rules. The second you give that to another lawyer their like na not worth my time plead out and do your 2 years dumbass, don't fight the system.", "Huh? You don’t have to pay with Medicare if you have other insurance.", "Yep. The real freedom is the slavery we found along the way.", "He was prosecuted because of a dog video lmao", "There was but the front fell off", "Indeed. It's worrisome that people who support prejudging the accused don't seem to realize they could one day find themselves in a similar situation. I assume such people would want to be presumed innocent as well... But I suppose they simply assume it couldn't possibly happen to them.", "did you notice how you assumed only criminals need criminal lawyers?\n\nya know, the exact opposite of how the justice system is supposed to work", "Can we all just agree that murica is a failed experiment already??", "They violated his constitutional rights. I wouldn't settle for less than $10 million and all their jobs.", "with this sort of evidence any number of attorneys will take this man as a client for free or for a part of the settlement.", "I don’t know I’m seeing online a lot of 13 year olds that need a stranglin’.\n\n/s If you need it", "*America bad give upvotes*", "Holy shit. What fucking scum", "Sanchez complained to the state bar, which did nothing so he is now suing his defense lawyers in a civil case. The judge retired after the video came out so nothing can be done against her.", "This makes me viscerally angry", "When you look at how the Puritans carried out punishment and include their views on sex, government, and religion, why should anyone be surprised at any of these things in America.", "I've read multiple responses to your comment that contradict you, lol", "A sure thing or not, it could be a long and expensive case. You only get reimbursed when you win. In the meantime that's money that could be food on your table.\n\nIt's understandable that many people cave, the system is working completely against them.", "Why can’t victims and perpetrators of a crime resolve their disputes? Restitution and reparations can be made.", "Did they not do a breath test or take a blood sample to confirm the arrest as a DUI?", "Bingo. And neither does this guy.", "I believe you and don't believe you all at the same time.", "Yeah, he also made note of when he arrived and when he spoke to that lady. He then stated it for the official record, to go along with the video.", "$45k when you have nothing in the bank except debt and a family who depends on you is a lot. Especially if you can just let it all go and drop a massive amount of stress.\n\nYou clearly have been disconnected with the way most Americans live.", "*america bad give upvotes*", "Khajiit can unjangle them for a small fee", "Piece of shit officials", "His argument was that bail was not required because it's easier to track people today.\n\nAre you arguing that there shouldn't be any form of bail and every person accused of a crime should remain in custody until their trial date?\n\nNobody is saying bail is perfect, I'm saying it serves a purpose. You are correct that people may breach their bail but it's very existence incentivises them to follow their conditions.\n\nTo be fair, I'm in Canada and our bail system is quite different. We typically seek a relatively small pledge of cash and may require different levels of supervision (e.g., a surety or bail supervision program). It's very rare that a cash deposit is required - usually in situations where the accused resides a good distance away from the jurisdiction he/she was arrested in.", "I know it's kind of mean, but saying to put the race card \"back in the deck\" is such a smug response that I can't help but picture people who say it as racists that are excited that their racism isn't the issue for once.", "Are Orlando to Anaheim flights especially cheap? ;)", "I just hired someone who used to work at a call center, no degree, 70k starting with bonus potential. Most of the day to day is joining data together with SQL and making dashboards from that for different reporting requests.\n \nA month or so of dedicated study (or casual study if you are a quick learner) will get you enough knowledge for entry level business analytics/reporting. You need to know some basic math (weighted vs unweighted averages, sums, calculating percent change) and general SQL (SELECT statements, JOIN types, how to use GROUP BY. Window functions help a lot as well).\n\nI picked up SQL 2 years ago so I could go fully remote as a single parent with a new baby. It helped that I worked with a lot of math in my previous job but the coding part was not hard. SQL has a very low skill floor to get started. \n\nhttps://sqlzoo.net/wiki/SQL_Tutorial is an easy way to get going. Kaggle and Codecademy also have some good free resources.", "We’ve all heard how bad things could be, the scary part is seeing this vile behaviour defended more than vilified... \n\nThere’s a lot of misplaced pride holding that shithole country back", "I saw this behavior before. In 4th grade", "So why did they say, quarter to 11 and 9:38 to justify their collusion? Why not say we issued the warrant at 8:45, instead of 9. Why say he had multiple instances of tardiness, when it was one? Why did the defense lawyer set this up and then split, before 9 am.\n\nThe judge had every right to admonish him for the 7 minutes. I believe it's called \"reading him the riot act\" for being 7 minutes late. However issuing a 15,000 dollar bench warrant before he offends the second time, (remember it was 7 fucking minutes) is truly criminal.\n\nI really don't understand how any person that isn't white or of means, continues to live in these places.", "You'll never be on a jury if you say that.\n\nand you've just left evidence of intent to lie if you end up on one and lie about it.", "*america bad give upvotes*", "This is one of those times where I wish something life threatning happened to the culprits. That woman and man are ruining precious time of his life and having a laugh at his misery. In a Just world, that man would be compensated for his suffering and loss over 10 times and those assholes would be the ones losing their sanity and freedom. \n\nFuck burocracy.", "He was late...", "They conspired to accuse him of 'arriving late' and issued a bench warrant 15 minutes before he could possibly be late. \n\n\nHow did you miss that?", "Put it back in the deck chief", "It would have been, but in this separate case he will be a plaintiff and any law-firm would take this on. With the gross abuse of power and clear evidence, any lawfirm would take this on. He only pays if he wins! \n\nThis DUI case will probably get thrown out, or at the very least become a mistrial.", "I wouldn't say all of America has failed. But there are those that are really trying to take advantage of everyone else.\nI wish people would understand that we can achieve so much more when we work together for everyone.", "there is an avenue, and that is why we have the Second Amendment. \n\n\nJust saying", "Well for some reason we can’t get justice unless we have money, so yeah capitalism!", "Are you one of these downvote trolls I've been hearing about?", "The really sad part is the people that are actually guilty won't be the ones that have to pay the money.", "Take your chances here as a white person or a black or Latin person?", "That's the wrong way to think about that.\n\nYou're there to make sure justice is served. You know the principles. If they're guilty, give a guilty verdict. If there's not enough evidence, then they're not guilty.\n\nThat's not sabotage. That's doing the job.", "Too true. I'm not even going to sass you, I'm just going to wallow in silence at our inability to work together for our own good...", "Found the lawyer", "My asshole brother got sentenced to 99 years in prison in TX...and he did what they said to some degree afaik, but the actual case was a complete cluster fuck of BS and held together by a guy trying not to get executed. Family spent 20k+ in appellate court and got him out. /And his case has been cited many times now so that's nice I guess, making case law, lol", "You clearly did not grow up at a time when people driving drunk was common. They killed many more than those combined. Cell-phones have greatly upped the distracted driving problems and many places are now enforcing strict laws against those drivers.\n\n\n\nDrunk driving was an epidemic in a lot of places.", "He started it", "Yep. The bar association told him to file a complaint with the same court.", "ELI5 please", "Court was at 9:00. He arrived at 9:07. Shame on his attorney for throwing him under the bus rather than advocating for him, but this is nonsense.", "Thank you. I keep hearing about this ravenous job market but it seems that unless you want to wait tables, my area is pretty stagnant. I've been looking for something different and this may very well set me down my next path. I appreciate you.", "Chosen to go anywhere? What are you basing that on?\n\n>\"48% were the immediate relatives of United States citizens, 20% were family-sponsored, 13% were refugees or asylum seekers, 12% were employment-based preferences, 4.2% were part of the Diversity Immigrant Visa program, 1.4% were victims of a crime (U1) or their family members were (U2 to U5),[6] and 1.0% who were granted the Special Immigrant Visa\"\n\nIf you are an immediate relative or sponsored then I wouldn't say you have choice per se, I doubt all of them could choose to live anywhere.\n\nThe employment-based preferences ones probably have a good degree or choice.\n\nAnd the rest nah.\n\nAnd about a quarter of those immigrants are Mexicans. You think they had a lot of choice as to what first world country they can go to? Lol.", "Guess some people choose never to grow out of their 4th grade mindset", "Is it because he does not belong to the Church of Latter Day Saints?\nOr because he isn’t white?", "She retired after the video came out.", "Does that matter? His Warrant was issued 15 minutes before court even started. And 7 minutes late at that.", ">…never be on a jury.\n\n“Hello, sir, how is your morning going?”\n\n“I’ll never convict on a police officer’s testimony alone.”\n\n“Thank you for coming in. We will not be requiring your services. Have a good rest of the day.”\n\nThe funny thing is that if they’re looking for an unbiased person, I’d probably be a good pick. I don’t watch the news, I’m apolitical, I’m agnostic. Well, that probably makes me undesirable. The defense and prosecution probably want people who lean as far as possible to their favor.", "Jail time for everyone involved.", "Just to clear the air for anyone who saw the \"Google review\" threads here before they were deleted:\n\nYou can not pay to remove legitimate negative reviews on Google. \n\nPeople usually think this because they get one of their own reviews removed (or, never actually published) for a variety of reasons. \n\nGoogle is very, very good at handling \"fake\" reviews. First off, it can take hours/days for any review to show up for other people. That tends to confuse would-be spammers. \n\nAlso, if you've already reviewed a place, and you're trying to \"review bomb\" the same place on another Google account but from the same IP, it's never going to work. If that account has *ever* been associated with your main account in *any* way, it likely won't work. Same goes for trying to circumvent this by using 99% of VPNs.\n\nThere are a ton of other factors at play as well (is the place getting review bombed/unusual traffic right now? If it's a physical place, do you live anywhere near it? Have you ever been there? etc.) Note that, obviously, you don't have to check every box here to leave an honest review. These are just compounding factors.\n\nThis is why, when Google removed thousands of *very obviously* fake reviews from Robin Hood, the people decrying them for \"censorship\" were being, well, stupid. It's much, much more complicated than that.", "And that's what makes me sad. You and I understand this, but too few do and the worst of them seem to be trying to run the place.", "You just keep proving my point. In most of the world people are not automatically going for the 'you are an asshole' just because I disagree with them. At all.\n\nBut you Americans are so insecure about the state of your country that even the slightest and most respectfully questions about issues gets seen as an attack.... Not quite sure what I am attaching though..\n\nDo you perhaps have any insights as of why you are like this?", "“We are bound by the laws of economics as much as the laws of physics” \n\nExcuse me but what? If you are truly treating economics as a science, you should understand that there is a rigorous level of scrutiny applied to scientific claims, far more rigorous than the personal claim that non-free-market institutions are more corrupt than free market institutions. \n\nEconomics can be a science but the findings do change over time and regions since economic decisions are influenced by culture. Any scientific perspective on economics would have to acknowledge the lower confidence behind economic claims. \n\nSo it’s absolutely *not* accurate to compare it to the laws of physics, which are more difficult to politicize, and the behavior of mass and particles is consistent everywhere in the universe.", "5 years of court dates. You haven’t been late to something in 5 years? No traffic accidents, no car troubles, no ‘already in the parking lot but this is the start of a day of court and it takes forever to get inside because there is a line’?", "Straight into the ground...", "Every book in the Bible is, to some extent, \"fake motherfuckers\"", "Or what you take out of your own body for that matter.", "I'm sorry, but from my experience this is bullshit. I've seen private practice attorneys do the same shit so many times. They will feed some clients to the dogs since they collected money upfront, so there is no loss to them and they keep a good standing with judges and prosecutors. They're all in bed together and it's rare to find an attorney that actually fights and the courts are afraid/annoyed by them. \n\nI'm a minority with money in a white district and I've been in all white courtrooms. The odds are definitely still stacked against us. You realize right when the prosecuting attorney and your counsel make jokes to each other and lunch plans for later that same day.", "Lol i feel bad for idiots like you. Your reading comprehension is horrendous. I never said you have to live in them. I’m saying if the USA isn’t the world police , one of the other two garbage governments will take its place and the world will actually suffer for it.", "Not when the majority of people in power are like these people. How many innocent people are in jail because a pig 🐷 can’t admit he made a mistake", "Of course I don't. I'm just pointing out that you can't trust opinion of the guy who comments on cuck porn on reddit to have any smart opinion on anything.", "Many federal districts handle pretrial release or detention this way.\n\nThe result?\n\nAlmost no one is released no matter the charged offense or the person’s background.\n\nI agree reform is needed, but remember that it can be a double-edged sword.", "It's happening. Slowly. Illinois just passed (in July) a reform bill that will eliminate bail in 2023. Pretty sure we're the first state to totally eliminate it. While other states have been restricting it's use.", "Whats the link to his gofundme?", "Isn't this illegal", "Everything is going so incredibly well in Portugal that it is inhumane that drugs laws stay on the books in so many places.", "She probably sees everyone that comes in there regardless of any circumstance as the scum of the earth that has it coming, and she takes the side of her tribe (all the court employees) and doesn't actually give a shit about the truth only about what makes her day easier.", "The guy could be the next Hitler and this would still be appalling. It's a slap in the face to our entire Justice system.", "Based on this video, he was not found guilty because of this, they only revoked his bond. So basically, they offered him triple his bond to compensate for however long he spent in jail until someone paid that 15k bond (does anyone know how many days it was)?", "Well.\n\nBecause.... This is earth.\n\nThis is the reality we live in.\n\nHow scores of people get up everyday and pretend everything is just fine and waste their day at their little jobs..... I will never, *ever* understand it.\n\nI will *never* understand how everything is just \"fine.\"", "The property, though, that's just as bad, right? It is my understanding that protecting property is as important as protecting life.", "Wow. I don't know how you feel about it but I hope for the best for your brother. And yeah, you're now tangentially connected to a legal celebrity, so you've got that going for you, which is nice.\n\nI'm interested in more of the story if you have time and it's not too personal.", "Ikr literally the plot of stone ocean", "I just hired someone with no experience for this exact job, the same job I took about 2 years ago.\n\nI worked through the free sqlzoo problems over the course of a few weeks and that's all the knowledge I had when I got hired. I had a strong math background but the interview didn't really touch on it. They just showed me several SQL code snippets and asked me to describe roughly what they did, and I was also asked to write a couple basic SELECT/FROM/WHERE statements with a single join.", "Afghanistan is proof in-real-time of what happens when American hegemony goes away. Let's see if Russia or China feels obliged to step in and stop women from being treated like farm animals.", "It's a profit machine...", "Pretty sure there’s a video though, no?", "Insert Jojo part 6 joke", "Everyone on this video should be fired and thrown in jail", "And we know he was drunk how?", "Everyone in this room should have their titles stripped away n disbarred. Absolutely disgusting the injustice that goes on. This definitely isn’t an isolated incident. Fueled by racism n cuntass Karens with that stupid ass haircut . That lady on the left was constant smiling when they were taking about fucking this dude over", "Maybe they filed it at 9, and that wouldn't have happened if he would have made it. \n\nWe will never know because he was late, just like the warrant says.", "People worship judges too much. Even after all this bullshit, the video calls the judge \"honorable\".", "If you want to talk about restorative justice models, that’s fine, but that is not what you’ve been talking about and I don’t know how you get to the belief that criminal defendants will voluntarily agree to enter arbitration with their victims and that they somehow go through some sort of free-market choice when shopping for a mediator.", "I know you see all the other replies to your comment.\n\nEveryone seems to be under that impression. Either everyone but you is wrong, or your wording could be clearer.", "I'm sorry what?", "Do you actually pay attention to what you watch dude lol", ">Call me crazy, but I think \\[Anything\\] should be like\n\nthis is pretty much America.", "Would you believe a police officers testimony just because they were an officer?", "I don't think he got a trial. The prosecution kept postponing due to discovery or whatever causing him to miss time at court dates that just got rescheduled. Then they did this set up so he was held in jail and had to plead guilty to get out rather than wait in jail (potentially two years) for them to hear his case.", "I'm genuinely happy to great that! Sounds like you have a lot to be proud of! Be well!", "I’m confused by the article on this. It sounds like the arrest warrant wasn’t issued until 9am, which was the time he was supposed to be there by. Was it improper for his defense attorneys to alert the court that he wasn’t there at 8:45am, if the warrant wouldn’t be issued until 9am anyway? Was a warrant not going to be issued if they hadn’t requested one, even if he was late?", "And America is evil in this regard compared to...whom?\n\n\"Western Europe, specificially Northwestern Europe\"\n\nSo the entire rest of the world is one half of one continent huh.", "Oh ya I know, I'm saying these people do deserve to get run over by a killdozer.", "It's America.", "Please meet our healthcare and police systems. Just as glorious.", ">Lawyers are quite different. First, if they are public, there is no payoff to being good. You can be the shittiest lawyer ever and you would be the same as a good one, because you would both earn the same amount.\n\nisn't this like saying Doctors are not encouraged to be good because they would be paid the same amount in universal health care?", "Crazy how people can just play with someone’s life like that.", "> We need to get rid of bail.\n\nI'm pretty sure you mean to get rid of monetary bail, rather than getting rid of bail all together. \n\nBail is about giving people restrictions on their life while they aren't in jail waiting for trial. Some restrictions would be no guns, no drugs, in assault cases no contact previsions. Without bail almost everyone would have to stay in jail rather than be released. We don't want that.", "What was he arrested for? I didn't see that .entitled in the articles people commented.", "What they are doing isn’t arresting him of a crime but instead revoking his bail and sending him to jail to wait for his future court cases. Which has been on going for five years already", "Honorable my ass", "They robbed places apparently, and one guy that he did something with went by himself and shot a guy during it (luckily didn't kill him). So he just ratted on anyone he knew about anything. That was pretty much all the evidence just this one guy saying my brother did X. The facts of the trial court were terrible from what I remember looking at, like a witness said the guy was X and my brother isn't close to that description. /Would be very easy to find the case if I gave more concrete details, though a lawyer might be able to find this anyway lol", "There is no small result that should come from this. Only big.\n\nAll three of them should be stripped of their positions and never allowed to hold them, or similar positions, again. They are corrupt and deserve serious jailtime for their behavior. I'm talking *years* behind bars so they can think about what they've done.\n\nNaturally none of that will happen. Maybe they'll lose their jobs, but I expect the judge and prosecutor will be fine, maybe get moved around somewhere. The officer who claimed the dash cam \"malfunctioned\" won't have to deal with any consequences but even if he did he'd just get moved to another station like all pigs do.\n\nFuck the US \"justice\" system.", "\"Like it or not, those with power have been abusing it since time began.\" \n\n\nYes, because of people like you. An entire generation apathetic towards abuse because they aren't personally being affected. Until they are.", "I can’t imagine the anger that Luis Sanchez felt the first time he watched saw this footage.", "It doesn't take a lawyer to spot the MANY breaches of professional ethics here. The first 30 seconds of this video all by itself should be enough to get that defense attorney disbarred at the very least. The rest should be enough to get the judge and prosecutor thrown in jail.\n\nSadly that's not how the legal system in the US works.", "What does that have to do with anything?", "You can’t T.T", "Miscarriages of justice enacted by cops piss me off to no end. This had me seething with white hot fury.", ">the corruption or at minimum gross incompetence by police officers, pd records department, public defenders, the courts, the Utah State Bar Association, and the Attorney General’s office\n\nMass media too. This video should have been reported everywhere, but the media is tightly controlled, heavily censored and moderated.", "Probably some chose their career accordingly. Power is a hell of drug", "Stone Ocean", "It's still injustice, late or not", "The original comment was “i get scared about going to a poor country like the USA”, to which you replied by bringing up two other governmental bodies.\n\nWhere the fuck was “world police” mentioned? Where the fuck were governments mentioned?\n\nJesus christ and you had the audacity to comment on MY reading comprehension.\n\nYou literally cant make this shit up 😂", "Could someone please post his gofundme link? I’d like to donate.", "Not in lower level, misdemeanor courts, at least in my jurisdiction.", "You’re not an asshole for disagreeing. You’re an asshole for making it a point of pushing your worldview on others. Here’s an example, I have friends from all over the political spectrum. When we hang out together, we spend our time enjoying the pleasure of each other’s company. We don’t waste our time discussing whatever the hot button topic of the day happens to be. There is so much good in this world, and so much happiness to be had, but yea let me shit talk the Syrian farmers religious beliefs. You’re no better than that guy who got killed trying to evangelize North Sentinel island. When you were in Alabama did you try and learn about their culture or just bitch about the American healthcare system? We all know it sucks, we don’t need you to come here to tell us that.", "They did Sanchez dirty", "Ah this doesn't look like a bunch of White people ganging up on a Latino at all.", "It would be great if legaleagle covered this.", "Fuck Utah", "Easy to think of as insignificant in a bubble but imagine what a $45k wad of cash would do for most people, let alone someone who is broke.\n\nLike even some gameshows like Chopped on food network are having chefs compete for like $15k. Each of them could explain what that $15 would do for them.\n\nFor me, $45k would wipe away a ton of debt. It would allow me or my spouse to go back to school and get an advanced degree. It would allow us to make some pretty necessary home renovations. It's nothing to sneeze at, that's for sure.\n\nProps to this guy for sticking to his guns.", "The word of a cop in the US is worth less than the word of a junkie that knows lying will get them a fix. Anyone who says different is just in on the racket.", "Uhh because let me think…. Ummm SHIT HAPPENS? any number of things could have led him to being 7 minutes late", "You're naive, nothing about the war on drugs in America or most countries does anything to benefit anyone but the people making money off the prison system. That and it could be pot depending on what state you're in.", "He is already guilty of being non-white in Utah. Poor guy, $45,000 doesn't go very far in court.", "Judge too.", "Disbar that motherfucker", "Not just public defenders are doing this. If you go with private defense lawyer you can still have this happen. Especially if there’s a more wealthy client standing trial in the same county with the same judge. Throw the poorer client under the legal freight train so the wealthy client gets a slap on the wrist. It’s one of the reasons why some lawyers don’t take cases because they want to stick with certain court systems with certain judges they have relations with.", "> The same judge in this video was given the case ~~and decided against mr. Sanchez~~, recused herself from it and retired.\n\nAs seen in the end of the video provided here https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/ra32cw/mans_own_defence_lawyer_conspires_with_the/hng1781/", "Surprise surprise. Everyone of them white vs a person of color. What happened to the judge? Bet Thai Karen is still handing out “justice”.", "I think that might just be their legal title, like how PhD holders are called \"doctor\".", "Because he was warned already about this. He was late once and completely missed his court day a second time. And was warned that he would be issued an arrest warrant if he missed another day or was late another day.\n\nThis was his third time. And he stated on the record that he arrived in the courtroom at 9:08 am.\n\nHere is his case. He is fighting for a trial by jury for an open and shut DUI case. The guy blew a 0.13% blood alcohol in front of a cop. And his argument is that the cop had no legal ground for pulling him over on suspicion of a DUI.\n\nIf I was his defense lawyer, I'd want this case off my plate too. It is a no win case.\n\nhttps://law.justia.com/cases/utah/court-of-appeals-published/2020/20190250-ca.html\n\nEdit: \n\nIt is important to note. The guy was out on a bond. And it states explicitly that if you arrive late for your court hearing, you could be issued a warrant for your arrest. Because you are out on BOND. Meaning they let you out of jail with the expectation that you show up in court...", "Yup. If they offered him money, though they know they're fucked.\n\nThey violated his consitutional rights", "So is this case over or is it still being fought in a higher court?", "There's a few issues with this video. Firstly the timings are all superimposed by the editor so we have no way to verify most of them. \n\nThe second problem is that even if the timings are accurate, the defence lawyer would need to have met his client prior to the Court commencing. It depends on the case etc but the lawyer will have told the client to meet him there at 0830 or 0845. The defendant wasn't there anywhere near that time so the lawyer had no chance of progressing the case as he wasn't getting instructions from the client. He was therefore late, and not just 7 minutes late (again, giving the benefit of the doubt to him in relation to the accuracy of the timings).\n\nThe third problem is that we are told the narrative of him being late or absent many times is only partially false but as with the timings we can only take the defendants word for that. Even on his best case, he has missed one hearing entirely and was late today. \n\nThe fourth problem is confirmed in the comments which is that he reported the lawyer to the bar and the complaint was dismissed. That strongly suggests that the picture he paints is grossly distorted as the investigation (going by the comments) exonerated the lawyer. \n\nI'm not defending the lawyers or attacking the defendant, I'm just suggesting other redditors have a more critical eye before calling for the judges head.", "Exactly. If Constitutional and human rights like the right to a fair trial can be taken aaway from any of us, then none of us are safe in the security of our rights and freedoms", "My friend’s brother is a lawyer. He went on a Facebook rant a couple years ago complaining about all the people leaving the Mormon faith because of “historical evidence.” He then said evidence doesn’t matter and faith is believing in things that can’t be proven or disproven with evidence.\n\nI thought “don’t they teach you about the importance of evidence in law school?”\n\nEdit: He went to law school at BYU. BYU is controlled by the Mormon church, so maybe they learned about evidence\\* in the law program.\n\n\\* *Evidence does not apply to the teachings of the church.*", "Hmm yeah my bad I guess, i was just tired of the anti America hate when there is so much worse happening in the world.", "Yeah, one problem with PDs is that no one ever hires enough of them. They're all overworked and drastically underpaid. It's also a fairly thankless job, with many clients thinking they know better. Generally, PDs do it because they like it. And they're saints for that because of all the garbage involved.", "when you are your own oversight, it's not actually difficult to do things like this. \n\npolice are their own oversight.", "Well fuck Utah and their courts. I hate how this world is becoming more and more backhanded and corrupt. Who are you to trust, if you can't even rely on the lawyer you are paying to defend you in court? All of these people need to be sent to jail for shitting all over our justice system. Especially the judge and DA. Sorry ass mofos.", "I'm guessing OP meant western countries instead of wealthy, since they are more comparable. Sure, US is better than most countries but compared to fully functioning democracies it does not stack up as well.", "Did anybody else notice how frequently he got up to offer his chair to someone else when they came into the crowded courtroom, especially women?", "Upstate NY is also like this. I sat in and saw situations though not as bad, but similar to this. I don't think it's good if the Lawyers and judges know each other personally. I get they just want things to \"get done\". But it's people lives in a small town they're destroying over a small claim.", "I can agree to this, violent crime or flight risk, no bail. Non violent and low flight risk release for court dates.", "Where do they state their motivation?\n\nWe have a clear video of them fucking this guy over, but I don’t see where they said *why* they were fucking him over.\n\nAlso, not explicitly stating race as a motivating factor doesn’t eliminate it as one.\n\nPersonally, I’m inclined to believe that it’s both a class & race issue. Obviously it happens to white peoples too, but I think its naive to think miscarriage of justice is not on average applied more to minorities.", "I make an OK amount of money and live comfortably and I think $45k would still be life-changing for me. I could pay off the remainder of my student loans and still double my savings with that, that's huge. And then compare it to the alternative which would probably be spending my savings on a fight I'm not even sure I can win...yeah. I'm not sure what I'd do but $45k is a lot of money.", "Well there you go society's fixed cuzza you.", "The blood test that showed his BAC was at 0.13. WTF kind of question is that.", "Absolutely it matters. \n\nIt reaffirms to the judge (who probably does not remember the details about this man's case). The allegations of the prosecuter. \n\nRegardless, you see that they are set up and ready to go 15 minutes early.. if your court session is scheduled at 9 you should be there AT LEAST 845. \n\nFor me, it shows that this man has a blatant disregard for the law. \n\nThe discussions between the prosecution and defense is not unprecedented. But it is clear that his defense is not working in his best interest and that might be a point to be made.", "is this a jojo reference", "That lawyer should be disbarred then.", "I live in Orlando. It's not all that much cheaper as a local to go to the parks. Standard tickets start north of $100. If you get Park Hopper options the prices vary based on seasonal demand. Prices can easily be 200 bucks per person 10 years and up. And that's not including parking, food, drinks, etc. Even to purchase annual passes as a Florida Resident its super pricey.", "Yeah, Mormons are the primary offenders I encounter on this subject. I think it's because the term is conflated with belief at a very young age.", "My favorite part about Americans is how to them some Americans aren't real Americans.", "Everyone working in that court room should lose their license to practice. \n\nThis is not Justice.", "“breatho” is for alcohol. Driving impaired can be drugs, legally prescribed or not. So it’s back to the officers “observations” and training. Even blowing 0.0 doesn’t eliminate the ability for an arrest. It just changes how the report is written. Even agreeing to blood draw without a warrant does not stop the process and negative results are just evidence for trial. A negative blood result doesn’t dismiss the charge of being intoxicated or being under the influence. \n\nAs for “slam dunk” in my state the lots of cases are pled down to other charges even with apparently conclusive evidence to avoid trial. It can be thousands and thousands of dollars more expensive to get to trial not to mention the time involved. Getting a lawyer and pleading down still costs more than $3k. \n\nBTW, even if found innocent, you still get to foot the bill. That money is not repaid.", "Damn I really hope we do not hear about this guy committing “suicide”.", "There's more people that *say* this than are actual examples of those kind of people", "Dude is being charged with a DUI. His attorney wants him to plead guilty, dude wants a trial. This makes his attorney mad.\n\nThe attorney is useless. Guy has had to file his own legal motions. Additionally, he tried to get the dash camera footage from the cops and, surprise surprise, the cameras either weren't working or the footage got \"mistakenly\" deleted.\n\nBecause the guy isn't just rolling over and taking a plea bargain, the attorney is getting fed up with having to actually do his job.\n\nSo Sanchez has a case at 9am. At 845am, his attorney asks for a bench warrant for tardiness (what the fuck?).\n\nThe judge issues it.\n\nDude shows up at 907 after making his way through a crowded line in the halls. He's standing right there and everyone sees him, but everyone gets amnesia and commits perjury saying that the earliest he was there was 938.\n\nIn short, they fucked him and they're all joking about it like psychopaths.", "By that logic, since our country is such a shithole, we should ferry Mexican immigrants to other, superior first-world countries who would doubtlessly be glad to take them with open arms and would provide a much better quality of life.", "sorry, I'm confused: he was due to be there at 9:00am but they started at 8:45am, which is the scheme to call his hearing before he is able to arrive? but he did actually show up late, at 9:07am, correct? which is late, and administrations of justice are justified in being picky on 7 minutes late, I think? \nIt does seem fishy the way they falsify records and are cavalier about it. \nAlso, what is the scheme? I don't understand how the defense, judge and prosecution profit? do they get to pocket his bail money?", "You speak as if the American legal system is a private for-profit corporation. Terrifying.", "Just know that working from home has its perks but it can also be very boring and depending on your specific company/role it may involve very little social interaction which can accelerate burnout for extroverts. For me and my kid it was very worthwhile though. \n\nAs someone who is now interviewing people for these roles I will say the thing my particular company looks for most is eagerness to learn and an ability to actually use what you've learned to solve a problem. For example, if someone told me in an interview that they self taught SQL and then used a public data set to query something they were interested in (like statistics for sports or something), they would 100% get the job.", "Nah - I feel like this is clearly a case of them all being fed up with this guy's attitude.\n\nI'm not saying it should work this way, but it seems like *half* of any given court case is just the judge/court wanting to see that a defendant is taking the process seriously and earnestly, respecting the court's authority, and putting their best foot forward etc.\n\nSo if I'm speculating these types of conversations don't just casually come up. These people all have busy schedules and they don't think they should have to act like parents to their defendants, calling them to remind them they need to be in court, checking to make sure they're on their way and will be on time, and waiting on *them* rather than the other way around, etc.\n\nSo they really expect that if your case is at 9:00 AM that you show up 15-30 minutes early, regardless of whether or not the proceedings usually actually start at that time. It's a respect thing.\n\nSo we know from the video's own admission this guy had been very late before, missed one court hearing, and had to be called by his defense attorney once to remind him of a hearing. \n\nThe defendant also claims in other places that he wasn't actually even late at 9:08 because his case is never called right when it begins anyway. This gives us a pretty big clue into how he views the whole thing.\n\nAgain, if I'm speculating, based upon how she responds to the judge's question about \"... and you don't expect him to be here?\" his lawyer called him the morning to ask where he was 15-20 minutes before the case was to be heard, he told her that he was almost on his way and what his ETA was, she knew that would mean he was going to be marginally late again, and they were all tired of it.\n\nSo the court/judge, his public defender, and the prosecutor all felt he was being generally disrespectful and decided not to let him get away with being habitually \"just a little late\" to his court hearings.\n\nAgain, I'm not saying that this is the way it should be, but I think that's the explanation for what's happening in this video.", "There are actually two issues here.\n\nThe first is what you mentioned... If you take rights away from one group of people, they can be taken away from anyone. You can think of it as being one step away from losing your freedom.\n\nThe second is that anyone can be accused, so if the accused don't have rights, that means nobody does. You can think of this as being zero steps away from losing your freedom.", "Plz tell me they in trouble for this", "> But I think you would find that if Canada (for example) had a population of 350million it would be just as obnoxious.\n\nOh God, as a Manitoban myself, that would be horrific. \n\nSure, the reputation of the USA might be partially a result of circumstance, but they sure do give platforms to the bad side of the spectrum on a large-scale.", "It's kinda the judges job to enforce those standards in the courtroom itself.", "He likely was caught up in the crowd outside the hall. That's justifiable. The fact they issued his warrant before his case was called is malfeasance.", "However you are then forced to pay more later. You also are still forced to be put on part a if you want any other benefits. This can cause you to lose your prescription discount plan that you are not eligible for if you are on any form of medicare forced or not. Then you can no longer afford a much needed prescription. It screws up a major benefit of your insurance if you have a high deductible plan. Then when you want to refuse it all they say you have to back pay for the always unwanted part a you never wanted or signed up for. In addition it has all kinds of gotchas and many insurance plan's require you to sign up for it, or cobra doesn't count as valid other insurance.\n\nAll this nonsense should not exist if it was a true benifit.\n\nIn my case I have been in constant pain for over a year and a half due to lack of my prescribed medicine , can't properly use the insurance my SO gets through work, and being asked to pay taxes on money I have refused to try and get out of this mess.\n\nTldr\n\nNot having to pay is not the same right as being able to completely opt out.", "Being fought in higher court according to his go fund me", "While thoroughly enjoying and giggling throughout their scheme to destroy a man's life. What horrible human scum. The judge is practically a psychopath. What else, if not a monster, would take so much joy in actively ruining a man's life for no reason?", "What we need is to get rid of bond companies, and just have bond directly through the court. Some states have this, Canada is similar. \n\nCurrently, if you want to post bail and you don’t have the money you sign a bond agreement with a bond company. They charge a fee of about 10 to 20% and make a profit. If you violate certain terms then you become responsible for the bond. \n\nI say we should cut those bond companies out and have the court and defendant sign a bond agreement, and the court monitor them or contract someone to monitor them at different levels as necessary. If the defendant is found not guilty they’re not on the hook for anything. Unlike with bond companies they’re still on hook for the bond company’s fee.", "This is why BLM matters", "FYI in places like Miami-Dade County Jail and Riker's Island in New York, inmates can wait YEARS until they see their first court date. its a huge issue", "Fucking horrifying.", "As someone who is going in a month with my wife and our two young kids for 4 days, I can tell you it's going to be close to $5k after flights and everything.", "Bruh enjoy the schools designed like first person shooter levels.", "Of course, that's why there should be consequences. I was merely pointing out that public defenders aren't all corrupt assholes as the one in this post. Private ones can be assholes for different reasons.", "I don't think you get your payment back from the bondsman. You pay him 10%, and that's it. You're out that money forever. He pays the full amount to the court. If you skip and he can't find you then he's out that money to the court. If he finds you or you show up for trial, he gets his money back from the court, but you don't get yours back from him.\n\nMaybe there are other arrangements where you can pay interest instead.", "So weird that there used to be all these crazy miracles and then suddenly none as soon as they needed to be verified.", "Nope, he actually wasn't at that or participated in that afaik. He was a stupid terrible fuck but not that stupid or terrible and now he has a pretty normal life, though I don't really talk to him. And eh, someone would have to be pretty bored to do all that.", "Australia isn't exactly the bastion of freedom lately.", "I’ve got spurs", "They should go to prison, including the judge. Nothing less than that will suffice to stop further corruption like this.\n\nThe judge straight up lied in the video despite knowing better and having the ability to check the facts.", "Sincerely, fuck you.", "They should contact Jason flom and the innocence project.", "Hell. I had a traffic violation I contested recently where I requested dashcam footage. If I'd gotten that BS about it being deleted I probably would have burned the precinct down.\n\nCan't even imagine how THIS guy must be feeling. I wish him the best ... Thank you for your response and explanation.", "Where’s the punisher when you need him?", "Fuck that. I'm not taking a bullet for anyone, especially a \"friend\".", "Who are these fat fuck americans judge and attorneys, they should get 24\nStrokes of the cane", "The video seems to show he got stuck outside because of the crowd of people trying to get into the court. In any case, there hadn't been a new docket called until AFTER the judge saw him enter the court. THEN they proceeded to make him wait an hour and a half before they arrested him. If it was all legit, why are they giggling about it instead of arresting him as soon as he entered?", "Still christians", "This is amerikkka..lawyers are not your friends", "Sounds like a win-win for sure.", "To each his own.", "Looking at all this, I bet the DUI charges are bullshit as well. Dash cam wasn't working and other footage got deleted? They're fucking the brown guy.", "Yeah, even Americans think Florida is the exception and not the norm. Using the most non-normal state to generalize America, great job op.", "Lmao 🤣", "You got me, I didn't really mean wealthy, I meant wealthy and non-Islam centered. So Europe and Japan. I mean if you really think I was comparing women's reproductive rights to any country in the Middle East, I don't know what to tell you.", "Utah and government corruption?? Nooo..... I for one am shocked, shocked I say.", "Well I know now, judge dismissed the the case with prejudice and promptly retired, with benefits of course. Lives in San Clemente now.\nOver 7 minutes, she could've hung around making 300 k till she was 90.", "Ah I see. I read your comment as more of a clarification than a contradiction.", "Oh that's rich.", "\"defence lawyer conspires with the prosecution and the judge to get him arrested\"\n\nYes. It is actually more common that most general public like to know. The popular TV show with fictional good lawyers sold the lie so well to public. \n\nThose lawyers are in legal profession for the money just like any other business: maximum profit. \n\nThat is the reality how they run their business for efficiency (more money, less work). If you think along this line like them, what they are doing make money sense.", "Europe only shittalks empires because ***their*** empires plunged the entire world into pointless brutality on multiple occasions.", "One could say it's worse socially, rather than personally. Corruption is a very broad and largely impersonal crime, so it's often less provoking than more direct violence against the individual, even if the effects are broad and severely negative.", "Holy shit\n\nThe judge needs to be disbarred, go to jail for a long time, and have all her cases reviewed. \n\nWhy do people in power get away with this shit with NO repercussions? How corrupt is this country?", "If we are seeing this, there will be.", "And the prosecutor. Anyone who knowingly took part. You either remove all the corruption or it just comes back quicker. Like, we can't ever end all corruption, but we can make it easier to weed out and eliminate.", "This is the third time you've either missed or been hours late to read the title. We told you that this would happen if you were late.", "And they think it’s funny. This is fucking unreal.", "He likely was in the courthouse on time but caught up in that crowded shit show outside.\n\nThe judge perjured herself because she knows damn well when he came in.", "See, the problem is that the judge is in on it.", "Lol I was thinking that you'd save on hotels and flights", "Easy to say when you're not the one a signature away from accepting the money and facing mounting legal debt..", "It doesn’t make sense how it’s documented on video that a warrant was issued for being late prior to him being late. Had they waited until 9 to call his case, which he would have actually been a few minutes late, then it would be lawful. How can a sane, non corrupt court watch this video and not rule against these lawyers and judge.", "Like I said. Fucking idiot.", "Ridic. Tear that whole thing down and rebuild.", "Gofundme removed the fund for rittenhouse. Wtf is even happening anymore on the left?", "That's very useful info. My entire life has basically been a quest to learn new things and I think that leads naturally to being an introvert. So far, all my boxes are checked. I can't say I love math but I do love problem solving and if math helps me get to the solution than I'll embrace it. Definitely going to check this out. I really do appreciate you being so forthcoming.", "Tell us more!", "You just sound dumb though lol digress evidently talking like an idiot to prove some kind of point is not stupid in this sub regardless of how stupid the person really does sound lol thanks Reddit for failing yet again", "Portugal has really set the standard.", "DUI with no dash cam and magically disappearing body cam", "Does anything work in Murrica? Isn't it time to just press the restart button?", "How *fucked* does whatever you did have to be that the guy paid to be on your side throws you under the fucking legal bus??", "There was actually quite a bit of debate about this [the last few times it was posted](https://www.reddit.com/r/SaltLakeCity/comments/p1qyqa/utah_defense_attorney_conspires_with_utah/h8gkjsq/). Even in this thread there's debate about whether or not we're getting the full story.", "Watching them laugh and joke about potentially RUINING someone's life is fucking infuriating, I hope this man gets every last penny out of them.", "Honestly you people who are always on-time for everything without fail, how much of your life do you waste waiting in parking lots for the time you were *supposed* to get there?", "You’re fucked in the head.", "It’s pretty wild that you can watch this and come away in favor of the court. I’m not saying he should not be held accountable for being late. We see him 7 or 8 minutes late in this very video. Would that alone have been enough for a contempt of court charge? I don’t know. But they drew that charge after lying about how many times he’d been late before and after lying about how late he was this time.", "I think this counts as a big oof moment.", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1dnqKGuezo", "They're just doing the whole \"US is a third world country\" bit that reddit loves", "I had a horrible experience somewhat like this in Salt Lake City after I was wrongly arrested after my ex assaulted me. I had audio recording of the whole attack and the officer arrested me, visibly injured, rather than my ex with a history of abuse against me, because my mother in law was there and lied for him. So the cop said he “didn’t need” to listen to my audio that clearly proved what happened. Which is illegal. I was then given a public defender who outright lied to me and made my whole abuse case go away in 10 mins in front of the judge. Basically he said I couldn’t provide any evidence?! Absolutely not true, obviously. At the time I had no idea, I was young and my ex had taken my baby from me so I did whatever I needed to to get him back. My ex then tried to get me prosecuted for the time he assaulted me (because I was on his property and I put my foot up once in defense while he was beating me up) and he tried to get a protective order because it would have looked good for him in the divorce we were going through. \nI did my research, I represented myself in court. His lawyer pulled me aside and offered me a “deal”. I declined. I was so nervous, but I fucking did it!! I won!! After so much injustice, it was the BEST feeling of my life! When I presented the audio recording, their faces were PRICELESS!! The judge actually didn’t even need it or listen to it to come to the conclusion of what was happening. Such a great moment for me!", "Is this roleplaying? \n\nI'm so sorry. Wont happen again I promise :(", "He wasn’t late though.", "So he came in 7mins late?", "These people are disgusting and don't even deserve to be working at McDonald's flipping burgers let alone overseeing a court of law. Good on Sanchez for taking this above and beyond. They need to be held accountable. They need to understand the consequences for fucking around like this. Let them have that same smug face sitting in the unemployment line.", "That's right, pet. Lick those boots until they shine!", "They're on the same team. Regardless of anything else the defense attorney working with the prosecutor should be enough for him to win a lawsuit.", "Ok, so the lesson here is GET TO COURT EARLY!", ">45 trips to Disneyland\n\nHe said disneyland, not disneyworld. The cost of disneyland (in LA) has gone up a ton in the last 10 years but I think it is still much cheaper than the larger disneyworld (in OR)", "It is very possible for people to hide for long periods of time, and this is an unrealistic view of law enforcement’s abilities and technology. Fugitives from justice can remain on the run for years. I’m a criminal defense attorney and I see it all the time. The world is bigger than you think, and there are many places to hide if you know what you’re doing.", "I kicked twenty bucks to his GFM and shared on social media. This shit is infuriating.", "Even then it still costs a grip to get in the park. In the summer time it's 100% humidity, 90+ degrees, and you're spending more time in line than you do on rides. If you want to avoid that you can get fast passes, but those cost money too. IIRC, my wife took our son to Universal back in the summer for their birthdays. They got fast passes and some other perks/park add-ons and I think it was still close to a 1000 bucks for the two of them, not including parking, food, drinks, etc. \n\nI'd rather go to the Keys, or somewhere coastal.", "Please don't run for public office or any form of public service. You seem just as willing to be a douchebag if you feel justified.", "How convenient.", "Is this even legal?", "This is why the legal system will collapse in America. The Supreme Court is about to undo itself.", ">The defense and prosecution probably want people who lean as far as possible to their favor.\n\nNo, they want people who don't already have an opinion, but seem like they're easily convinced", "The guy was late, if it was supposed to start at 8:45 or 9, doesn't matter, he was late at 9:08.\n\nWho cares if the judge saw him sitting there, is she magically supposed to know that he is Mr Sanchez? Plus he was sitting in the back of the courtroom hunched over on his phone, from the camera angle ABOVE the judges position he can be seen, but could be be seen easily by the judge? I don't know.\n\nThe blonde woman should have spoken up that he was there at an earlier time, yet it doesn't matter, he was late even when he talked to her. \n\nThe guy was railroaded, true, but if he would have shown up on time none of this would have happened. Does being late mean you should have a bench warrant, I don't know.\n\nI've never been to court because of something illegal but when I have been to court I was always there a minimum of 30 min before my time because I didn't want to be late and have any consequences. It saved me when my case was moved up 10 minutes earlier.\n\nIf his court appearance was supposed to be at 8:45 then he was over 20 minutes late! if it was 9, he was 8 minutes late, Mr Sanchez was late but that doesn't mean his attorney should have conspired against him. Then again he was being prosecuted on a DUI, and I thought Reddit HATED drunk drivers, just not now I guess.", "It would just be easy for the guy to admit guilt and take a plea. If people take plea deals and don’t actually use the justice system, everyone gets paid. Everyone shows up and gets paid for signing paperwork. I don’t know. I’m not a legal expert or lawyer. I would assume they just all want to do as little work as possible.", "Yes, obviously wealth does not assure human rights or democracy. Only 4 out of that top 10 is considered full democracy (US is not one of them).", "Everyone deserves a defense. It’s not up to your lawyer to determine your innocence or guilt. I hope you never end up in a situation where the legal system fucks you because your lawyer thinks you’re guilty.", "It works in the other direction too. \n\n\n**TL;DR**: I was offered to pay a small fine instead of going to court. Not being able to afford the risk of being found guilty and likely paying a much larger fine or possibly going to jail, I paid the small fine. \n\n\n**Details:** \n\n\nI was arrested for \"disorderly conduct\" in PA. A very famous celebrity (at the time), was doing a book signing at a record store there. My girlfriend and I worked for the record store in a different far away city, but were invited to help out with this event as management knew we were fans of the celebrity. \n\n\nWe showed up to work our shifts, and found a line of police blocking people from entering the store. They were telling everyone that the guest of honor, a politically problematic (for them) celebrity, had left and was probably already on a plane heading home. \n\n\nThe store had only opened 2 hours ago, and the event wasn't even scheduled to have started yet. The crowd was excited but not in any way \"disorderly\". Hell, everyone was queued up in a line and just chatting with each other. \n\n\nMy girlfriend and I walked up to the door while holding hands. They let her pass with no problem, but one of the cops shoved a baton in my chest and said, \"I told you to get the fuck out of here.\" Despite not having addressed me at all prior to this interaction. My girlfriend was jolted to a stop, because she had not anticipated that I'd be shoved backward, while we were holding hands. \n\n\nI tried to say, \"I work here, I'm going in to start my shift.\" All I got out was \"I work...\" and the cop said \"I don't give a fuck who you are, turn around and leave or you're going to jail.\" \n\n\nSo I said he'd have to take me to jail. He did. Well, he arrested me anyway, other cops took me to jail along with several other people. \n\n\nThere is way more to this story, including being taken in the wagon to an alley, being told to get out and then having guns drawn on me and asked \"what did you do with your handcuffs\", handcuffs they never put on me, lol... but the relevant part is that I later received a notice that I could either go to trial, or pay $25 and attend a class that would teach me how to be a good little citizen. \n\n\nI couldn't afford to risk being found guilty so I paid the $25 and took the class. \n\n\nFunny thing is, the person teaching the class was a lawyer who fucking HATED police. He looked at my police report and said I should have opted to go to court because the report did not specify what it was that I had done that was supposedly \"disorderly\" and that even the fucked up judges in PA would have likely have just thrown it out, and if not a public defender could get the case tossed. \n\n\n \n**Further tangentially related details:** \n\n\nIn that class, there were about 15 \"students\". When the instructor/lawyer walked around to read everyone's police reports, he suddenly stopped beside one woman and asked her name. She told him her name and said \"Hello Mr. \\[whatever his name was\\]\", in a way that suggested she had a high level of admiration for this man. \n\n\nHe said \"I thought that was you! Do you mind sharing your story?\" \n\n\nShe said she'd be happy to. \n\n\nHer husband was a disabled war veteran who had some issues with his legs and could barely walk. They lived on the third floor of an apartment complex which you can imagine wasn't easy for him, and she had just brought home groceries. She parked in front of their building which was a fire lane. \n\n\nI absolutely hate when people park in fire lanes, my father being Battalion Commander of our city's fire department... but she explained that everyone in the building did this, and that they'd usually only park long enough to sit the groceries on the sidewalk, go park and then carry the groceries in. \n\n\nAnyway, she was in the process of doing this when a cop pulls up and tells her she can't park there. \n\n\nShe says she's just unloading some groceries and that she'll move within the next couple of minutes. \n\n\nHe tells her to move NOW. \n\n\nShe sighs, and rolls her eyes and the cop loses his shit. He tells her to turn around and put her hands behind her head. \n\n\nShe tells him she's pregnant. So what does he do? \n\n\nHe slams her on the ground and handcuffs her behind her back. \n\n\nHer husband sees this and starts trying to make his way down to find out what is going on. He comes out and yells \"What are you doing to my wife?\" \n\n\nThe rest of the neighborhood sees what is going on and people start coming out and yelling to the cop that the woman is pregnant. When it doesn't seem to change what the cop is doing, they start yelling mean words at him. \n\n\nSo he calls in \"officer in distress\", and suddenly the neighborhood is swarming with police. \n\n\nThe husband asks someone else to move the car, and the cop lets them do that. But then they arrest the woman for \"inciting a riot\". \n\n\nThis lawyer had represented her and won the case. She had miscarried, and though they couldn't prove that being slammed on the ground is what caused it, she did receive a decent amount of money. I don't think she said how much, just that it was enough, she thought, to cause her to be targeted by the police for constant harassment and retaliation. \n\n\nHe offered to represent her for free the next time she got arrested for anything, told her she could leave if she wanted and that he'd mark her down as having completed the program. \n\n\nTo her credit, she said it would be unfair to the rest of us for her to leave early and she stayed for the rest of the \"lesson.\" \n\n\nA lesson that was basically us listening to this lawyer tell us stories about how corrupt the PA police were and advice on what to do the next time we got arrested. \n\n\nI don't believe she said what she was in the class for that day, or I just forgot. But I'll never forget that day or her story.", "Why wouldn't you have a choice just because you have a relative in another country? Also, how did those relatives get here in the first place? Why didn't *they* choose a better country?\n\nPlenty of Mexicans emigrate to Canada and Spain. Why not go there? What are you insinuating about Mexicans, anyway? That the US is their only choice?", "A lot of companies right now are still trying to figure out how to handle remote work. Many tech focused companies that are offering remote work were historically based in CA/NY and therefore have naturally higher salaries, even if the remote salaries are smaller than the previously local ones.\n \nI'm looking at jumping ship soon for an \"intermediate\" role in analytics which involves SQL, some Python, and a bit deeper statistics than what I'm doing now and the many jobs with posted salaries are in the 90K+ range.\n \nIt's a really good time to move companies right now. It was probably slightly better a few months ago, but there is still a lot out there. If you have been in the same job for a while, you will almost definitely get a sizeable raise by applying elsewhere.", "I heard that she recused herself and the case is ongoing... do you have a source for your claims?", "Everyone associated with this, the Judge, the prosecutor, the \"defense\" attorneys, the baliff, etc. They all deserve to be canned publicly, serve 5 years in prison, and where applicable be disbarred.\n\nAbsolute trash. They discredit an already poor justice system.", "I think you misread. Perhaps willfully so because boy you aren't even close.\n\nI literally didn't say the USA is a shithole. Just disagreed with the statement that those immigrants can choose to go anywhere. I don't know the stats for e.g. Germany but I imagine it would be much the same.\n\nSorry to upset you so much by posting some facts!", "And imagine how many times they've done this to clients they \"don't like\".", "That’s the most infuriating part. Conspiring with the prosecution to screw over your client should be grounds for being disbarred and held liable for civil suits.", "lol look at this guy who takes joke comments seriously", "Do you think a good non public lawyer is free in most countries?", "Mormon. Shocking. \n\nGiven that their cult guide book states that people with a different shade of skin are cursed/demonized I am not at all surprised. \n\nhttp://www.ldslearning.org/book-of-mormon-curse-of-dark-skin.htm \n\nEDIT: down vote facts, mormons. Your belief system is rooted in bigotry.", "I can't believe they're not taking the internet more seriously. Do they think this is all a game? This is real life, buddy. You either read those links before you click on them or you can go back to the McDonald's playplace with the other children. Fuckin amateurs, man.", "Is there the death penalty for high level corruption in the state of Utah?", "Well that made me sick. Here’s hoping everyone in this video gets made an example of.", "Christ, dude...\n\nYou think they are tracking your credit card patterns for beating your wife? People can go months before getting picked up on warrants.", "If this anecdotal story is true, it sounds like you made some poor decisions with your lawyer and failed to follow up. Not sure how you can suggest they have nothing to lose by intentionally throwing cases. Their reputation as a defense attorney is on the line. Did you leave them a negative review? Did you report them to the state BAR for suspicion of collusion, ethics violations and legal malpractice? Did you appeal your conviction on grounds of ineffective counsel?", "I don't know how this isn't on here yet, but the police officer that charged him and claimed his dash cam wasn't working was booked for crashing a patrol car while on fentanyl last week. https://www.deseret.com/utah/2021/12/2/22814796/utah-officer-charged-with-crashing-patrol-car-while-on-fentanyl-jared-brooks-cardon-dui-painkillers", "> but he did actually show up late, at 9:07am, correct? which is late, and administrations of justice are justified in being picky on 7 minutes late, I think? \n \nImpossible to know: people were only allowed into the room at that point, and there were too many people for the number of seats --> rest of the people has to wait in the hall, until their case gets called. \nHis case didn't get truly called, as it had already been done at 8:45. \nHe may well have been there already, but people were not allowed in as court was not supposed to be in session yet.", "You were expecting standard corruption, but it was me, a JoJo reference!", "That the exact point of the political/ cultural setup. If everyone else is poor enough, you can buy anyone. That's exactly the implicite goal of capitalists: social cannibalism.\nThat's why sociopaths like it so much more than any other system: the predator no longer has a face.", ">Also he got no money as the same judge dismissed his case.\n\nBecause appeals aren't a thing, and neither are ACLU lawsuits.", "It's hilarious that we have the audacity to criticize other countries' justice system.", "Uh.\n\nDon't get it twisted.\n\nIt is grounds for being disbarred and held civilly liable. Potentially even criminally.\n\nWhat we're seeing here is not a failure of legislature, it's just plain old corruption. The defense attorney just assumes he'll never be caught because he is in cahoots with the entire judiciary.", "Thanks for posting some common sense. It's not that hard to disappear if you are willing to.", "Or, hot take, some Americans have differing opinions and world views than other Americans! GASP", "We didn't and still do not treat Native Americans well so how about we shut the fuck up for once, ya?", "I did it!", "Privatizing jails has poured gas on the issue", "Public Defenders, am I right?", "So who here is familiar with The Judgement of Cambyses? I think he had a way of discouraging judges from taking bribes.", "He very well could’ve been innocent and it could’ve been racial profiling by the cop. The police deleted all footage of the pullover/arrest. There were a lot of fishy details going on here.", "Fuck this. I hope all those corrupt lose their jobs. How can people be so evil?", "technically you're right, this is a case of on time = late\n\ndude should've been there 10-15 mins early\n\nAlso, if the judge and Co REALLY wanted to try to screw him they should've just called his case at 9:00:00.", "No, I was commenting on this specifically: \"It takes like a month to learn enough SQL to get a remote job paying 70k.\"\n\nI run an engineering team for a massive company. That resume wouldn't even get past most recruiters. You're massively oversimplifying the work it takes, for 99% of people, to get into this field if you are looking for a career change.", "They did a blood test. This \"brown guy\" just happens to not care about you and was willing to plow you over with his car instead of spending $15 on an Uber.", "The funny part is that that *is* a bot.", ">Why wouldn't you have a choice just because you have a relative in another country? \n\nBecause it's not easy to emigrate to a lot of first world countries. Heck from some countries even a Visa to e.g. the Netherlands is difficult. A family member helps a lot.\n\n>Also, how did those relatives get here in the first place? Why didn't *they* choose a better country?\n\nI don't know what their situation is and whether they had the freedom of choosing any country to move to.\n\n>Plenty of Mexicans emigrate to Canada and Spain. \n\nWouldn't call e.g. 50k Mexicans in Spain \"plenty\". But a reason they don't go to those countries might be that it's not an option, or a more difficult one. Or perhaps they just don't want to, who knows!\n\n> What are you insinuating about Mexicans, anyway? That the US is their only choice?\n\nYes, I think the geographical proximity helps a lot.", "I used to be a habitually late person. I finally kicked the habit (and that’s what it is) years ago after I burned so many people (co-workers, bosses, friends, family, dinners, events, etc.). I’ve always thought of being a “late person” the same way I think about alcoholism- you’ll ALWAYS be wired for being a “late person” , you just have to start taking extra steps to ensure you are on-time and create habits around being on-time. \n\nIt’s definitely more difficult for those of us who are “late people” - but like any bad habit, can be overcome once the “late person” admits they prioritize themselves over others, admits that the behavior is disrespectful and inconsiderate to those who are left waiting, then takes actions to minimize occurrences from often to rare. \n\nIt took me 10 years (my 20s) but I finally did it once I admitted to myself that it was ME who was the asshole - not the 100+ people that always were pissed at me. \n\nI’ll admit - Smart phones and map apps helped a ton. \n\nThat being said - justifying lateness is an excuse if you’re habitually late and that’s just the truth. Anyone can be on time once they take serious steps to do so. \n\nNow I just roll my eyes when I hear people constantly make excuses about why they weren’t on time for the 20th time. The good news is, I generally stop counting on those people after only a few chances so that helps minimize the frustration I may feel from it personally.", "How about we combine the two? When Persian judge Sisamnes was found to be accepting bribes, Cambyses ordered him flayed alive and the new judge (Sisamnes’ son) was made to sit on a chair made with said corrupt judge’s skin.", "Ok Mr Mayor. Get bent.", "It's fucked up you have to pay to get justice....", "lol\n\n> I don't listen to anybody who's late, because I used to have a lateness problem so I know firsthand they're just worthless slackers\n\nlmao\n\nBTW you totally didn't answer my question.\n\nMy initial assumption that you on-time people are just self-important narcissists has not been dispelled.", "I want to be very clear here. I've worked for Mormons before. FUCK ALL OF THEM. They are the biggest piles of shit on the planet second to Scientology.", ">(Unless by \"wealthy\" you secretly meant \"white\"?)\n\nEven then, that's unfair as the U.S.A. is probably the most diverse country in the world.", "It’s like you didn’t read my comment. I said twice that I was just describing what I think was the motivation of these people, not that I think it should be that way.", "Fuck man, really? You really think 7 minutes is enough to warrant arrest? As someone who is habitually early to everything, I still think that’s totally unreasonable", "Persian king Cambyses would go a step further than that for the corrupt judge.", "the \"best\" countries is places with basic rights for their citizens, social safety-nets and so on. And America is sure as shit lacking as those.", "I support your decision", "not necessarily. the defendant admits to being late in the vid. had the case been called at 9 instead of 8:45, he still would not have been present. but of course, usually the defense atty is supposed to ask the court to please be patient, and here it seems they did the opposite. i am speculating here, but maybe they asked him to show up at 8:45 for a roll call, he didn't, and his previous behaviors had been frustrating so they just assumed that he wouldn't arrive by 9am", "Why isn’t the ACLU or the FBI involved in this?", "Nope.", "https://wfpl.org/kentuckys-overcrowded-jails-full-of-nonviolent-offenders/ \n\n\nLook-up the daily arrests and releases in your own area. It's nothing new. Why would they want violent people behind bars that could injure staff or others thus costing the state more $$? Violence knows one remedy: Punishment.", "it's the reverse of the rittenhouse verdict lul", "All past cases should be fucking excused at this point. Fuck these people.", "Where did I get it twisted?", "Any day now they’ll dig up a stone mask, or find some Aztec stripper gym gods stuck in stone.", "Judges, Prosecutors and attorneys in some many towns all grew up together, went to the same schools, went to the same social gatherings and know each others spouses and children. People pretend this isn't a conflict of interest.\n\nThis is why anytime I am in court, even for a simple ticket, I make it a point to record EVERYTHING on phone audio or video. Even simple interaction with bailiffs, cops, sheriffs or any of the workers in the court. They all conspire against outsiders - anyone who isn't part of the justice system is an outsider.\n\nI encourage everyone to do the same thing. As you saw in this video, every interaction was important - even the bailiff SEEING him enter the room. The one prosecutor looking at him - who lied. The bitchy blonde - they all lied. RECORD EVERYTHING.", "Sure, it makes sense that your engineering team at a massive company isn't going to look for entry level SQL analysts with no experience. But you realize data is basically the fastest growing field right now, and every company with more than a few dozen people is trying to hire every level analysts? \n \nAs someone who has literally been looking at job posting sites for weeks and is interviewing candidates to grow my own team regularly, I think you are massively underestimating the current potential to move into this career.", "Fire that judge immediately.", "I think their relative importance is irrelevant. Both are legitimate objectives.", "To be honest he sounds like a sovereign citizen type.", "Everyone involved needs to be fired/disbarred. No excuses for this shit.", "I’m against capitol punishment, but if we’re going to have it, it should be used for elected officials, police and others that are charged with the public trust. Guillotine for the judge & prosecutor. Hard to have a criminal conspiracy against the citizenry without your head.", "Just when you said \"should be.\" Wanted to make it clear that it totally is already.\n\nWasn't really attacking or anything.", "Agreed. But he was certainly not the only piece of shit party involved in this dispute, nor was he the biggest.", "The point that user is trying to make is it’s never a crime to *be* or to *think*, only to *do* regardless of how despicable you may think a person to be. Criminalizing such things would be a slippery slope leading to injustice. How would you prove to a court for the purpose of conviction that someone is a pedophile without concrete proof of illegal action?\n\nThen you proceed to extend your logic ad absurdum claiming this to be proof that this user is a pedophile/pedophile apologist. You then use a false analogy to further your point. The equivalent would not be to be tried for punching someone, it would be to be on trial for being aggressive/violent which is not a valid charge. You may only be charged for acts of violence which prove your aggressive/violent tendencies.", "God is literally a mother fucker...", "You’re telling me after this, they still all have their jobs?!!", "[Judges web page and contact info for the Utah court.](https://judges.utah.gov/reports/judges/district-court/katherine-bernards-goodman/)\n\nOdd that her contact information isn't available but it seems that all other judges are available.", "I don't understand why you think I \"make a point of pushing my world views, like an asshole\"..?\n\nI never do, at all. That is why I was able to stay with that Syrian family for two nights.\n\nAmericans, not all, but Americans like you are so incredibly difficult and tiresome to be around because one \"wrong word\" and I am automatically an asshole!\n\nAnd yeah, I had a great time in the back waters of Alabama up until that point and learned a lot...\n\nAlso, I did not bring politics on the table in that particular incident... The guy behind the bar did when I said what country I lived in..\n\nAnyway... I kinda feel that having the position that 'everyone who disagree with me is an asshole and should shut the fuck up' is pretty unique to USA...\n\nPerhaps some of your social issues are an issue precisely because you are unable to have a conversation about politics without going extremely personal..?", ">So why did they say, quarter to 11 and 9:38 to justify their collusion?\n\nBecause the judge only saw him at quarter to 11, and the prosecutor saw him at 9:38 talking to the defence attorney. At 9:07 he just walked into the courtroom, and the judge probably doesn't know him so would have no way to know that it was him.\n\n>Why not say we issued the warrant at 8:45, instead of 9.\n\nMaybe the warrant was actually filed for 9, it's just at 8:45 they determined what they would do if he was late.\n\n>Why say he had multiple instances of tardiness, when it was one?\n\nHe had been late once before, and missed a date entirely once before. The judge even specifically states it's the 3rd time in this video.\n\n>Why did the defense lawyer set this up and then split, before 9 am.\n\nIn fairness, the defense attorney was correct, he did show up late. Just because the attorney guessed that at 8:40 doesn't mean he ended up being wrong.", "Considered a full democracy by whom? The Economist?\n\nIf that's the list we are using... then yes. The US missed it by .08. We are among the shithole flawed democracies... like Belgium, or France.", "The defense attorney's org responded \n\n\n>“Mr. Sanchez’s complaint omits important factual context and misstates several key facts,”... “We anticipate vigorously defending against Mr. Sanchez’s claims.” \n\n\nOh, so they CAN vigorously defend, when they feel like it.", "I read your comment. You spent a lot of words attempting to justify the court’s actions. Throwing in one or two, “I’m not saying it should be this way” does very little to dissuade me that you feel anything but outraged for this guy.", "So did the judge actually wait to issue the warrant until after 9? By his own admission he wasn’t in court at 9. So if his attorneys called the case early and the judge told them hold off until 9, and then issued the warrant, it’s different.\n\nJust curious.", ">poor country\n\nWhenever someone says this I like to point out in the US you can buy a window AC for $130 and can afford to run it all year round but that equivalent setup in any other country has you shaking in your boots at the thought of how you're going to afford it.\n\nUSA has a lot of problems, but wealth ain't one.", "Maybe they should be ethical laws then. So if some judge and lawyer collude, causing a false verdict / mistrial. Then they should be held accountable. Not just fired. They can potentially ruin ppls lives. Or even get them killed in some states. Our \"justice\" system and \"leo's\" are a fucking corrupt joke. The rise of fascism in America. Here is where it starts. Very similar to nazis", "All parties involved should be put down in a public manner.", "you mean like nearly happened to Kyle Rittenhouse. Under the law, all the deaths he caused were self defense, it was confirmed by due legal process and people are still out for blood.", "Tell em the number would look prettier with a one at the front or a zero in the back. Then on the very off-chance they comply, tell them you *thought* you wanted more but seeing the number caused the realization that seeing their careers get charred into an unrecognizable gristle-like crust would be worth so much more.", "You may work hard but racism works twice as hard", "No worries. I just said should because I don’t know if there’s an exact “law” the lawyer violated and because no punishment will probably handed down to these cucks.", "I think you still have the same problem. What is \"Western\"? Does South America count? What about Eastern Europe? The Mediterranean? It's easy to boil that down to \"white\", or in some cases \"this cherry picked list of Euro-centric nations that I've selected to prove my point, while ignoring the immediate neighbors to either side\"", "He was late for the actual time so I'm not sure the judge did anything wrong. Do know if he's telling the truth about not being late previously?", "How was this video obtained?", "Exactly, she \"couldn't\"/ wouldn't have done this unless his attorney had initiated it and pushed for it to be executed. Every single one of them made the conscious decision to blatantly lie or omit the truth. The judge, the clerks, both attorneys, and the bailiff all played their part to ensure it went in the books as lawful, and they all laughed while doing it. This judge clearly has a system of corruption in her courtroom and her staff are accomplices to it's success.", "You're saying Americans do lies for money? Shocking.", "Even with the times stated in the video, dude was still late.", "Can we get a link for the go fund me?", "I didn’t say any of that junk you paraphrased me to say - sounds like you heard what you wanted to hear. \n\nAnd to answer your question , at least for me , I don’t sit in a parking lot waiting. I’m ON-TIME which means I pull up in the parking lot at the time of the occurrence (+\\- 5 mins).\n\nThe think about it is -\nPeople are late and it happens. That’s okay. But people who are habitually late are making excuses for themselves. Some of your defensive responses sound like you blame on time people for being narrsisits when it’s the LATE person who is self Centered. I spelled that out in my original response tho pretty clearly. \n\nIt’s a process. \n\nPeople who are late and try and take steps to mitigate it get a lot more leeway than late people who show\nUp blaming everything in sight for something they almost always have complete control over. \n\nI give people plenty of chances but at this point in my life, I have little patience for people who continually prioritize their time over everyone else’s. THAT is what narcissism is.", "There’s a lot of incorrect statements and assumptions being thrown around that’s just the way Reddit works.", "> Without bail almost everyone would have to stay in jail rather than be released. We don't want that.\n\nOn the surface, I absolutely agree with you.\n\nHowever, thinking a little bit more about it, I wonder how quick reform would happen if a bunch of rich white people had to spend months in jail awaiting trial for their underage drunk driving incidents. \n\nBut then I realized, they'd be deemed \"not a flight risk\" and only minorities would end up in jail with no way to bail. So yeah, we don't want that.", "That's why I prefer to get arrested in, say, Japan that bullet trains your ass to jail with a [99% conviction rate.](https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.1086/468111?journalCode=jls#:~:text=Conviction%20rates%20in%20Japan%20exceed,face%20biased%20incentives%20to%20convict.)", "> People are late and it happens. That’s okay. \n\nNo! They'll just make excuses! You're enabling them! They're monsters! The worst sin! I hate them! They're worse than fatties (who also should listen to my simple advice on how to stop being bad people and start being more like me)", "A defendant never 'wins' in our justice system.. they just lose or lose less.", "this is why americas justice system is so fucking terrifying to me. ive literally been through something similar myself. \n\nfortunately it was just traffic stuff, but the clerk ignored me for 20 minutes while i was waiting to see a judge, when i finally got to walk in they said i was 20 minutes late. i tried to tell them ive been there the whole time and the judge cuts me off and tells me to leave. so i appealed it and went to the next level up, real court. \n\ncop lies about what happened in court, completely misrepresents the case, i am so shocked and baffled by it that i can barely speak, i was like 20 at the time and had such bad anxiety i was already shitting myself thinking they are going to fuck me over and here i am being fucked over... the judge hears me give my side of the story and bangs the gavel \"guilty. bye.\" basically calling me a liar when i spoke the truth. lost my license, my job, had to drop out of school etc. completely fucked my life up at the time, all because this piece of shit cop decided he wanted to fill a quota and wouldnt let the truth get in the way of his ego and the judge was more than willing to support it. \n\nthis shit happens all the time, every day. there is no oversight, it will continue until there is.", "Welcome to any US state. I'm sorry, but the prosecution & defence lawyers should not be chummily chatting and sharing baby pictures before cases. Like you can be friends outside of work, but this is a professional environment in which people's lives are at stake.", "There's no guarantee that he will win even if he's right. The case will simply drag on until he run out of money and settle out of court. At least that's how big corporations drive small businesses into bankrupt.", "Did the judge and others illegally conspire to mess with the victim? Yes\n\nShould each violator have punishment? Of course \n\nDid the victim rub them the wrong way for years, and were they sick and tired of his attitude? Perhaps, but does not matter one bit. They broke the law", "I can promise you there was no payout.", "I never said those are shitholes, they are still more democratic than vast majority of countries. But yes, they have some issues. And before blaming it on the most used democracy index on planet you must understand that the issues in US democracy are quite visible.\n\nI was just pointing out the obvious: wealth does not assure anything.", "You are presuming this man’s guilt based on his character and the evidence-less claims of the local PD, just like these dirtbag attorneys and judge. If he drove under the influence they will have proof and should not be afraid to present it to a jury.", "It is fair for both US citizens and the rest of the world to hold the US to a higher standard, given the larger-than-life platform and outsized influence on global society, economics, and general well-being.\n\nMy issue is that when the US fails to live up to those higher standards it somehow becomes a \"third world country.\"", "Understandable", "See, that's not productive. Just being a cunt to everyone doesn't get you anywhere except thrown out. Being a cunt to a select group, that's how you get progress.", "Eightish years ago I had a client who got pulled over (first time in his life) and the cop tried to search his vehicle without cause, was gruff, etc (all over an expired license plate). \n\nMy client makes a complaint about this. He suddenly got pulled over and harassed about once a week (no turn signal, 2 over the speed limit, following too close, all the bs you can imagine). He eventually dropped the complaint because of it. \n\nThe police and the justice system do not exist to serve us. They serve themselves.", "So, lawyers are what's known as fiduciaries. They have a legal obligation to act on your behalf at all times, in your best interest, or recuse themselves if they believe themselves to be incapable of that. Ethics in law are taken *very* seriously, probably second only to medical practice.\n\nThis behavior would send any worthy judge into *an actual, literal fury*. I'm talking so angry that when this shit happened in the 1800s, judges would straight up threaten to punch you in your stupid face. I'm talking the sorts of books you never want thrown at you.\n\nThe fact that this judge is complicit is actually disgusting to me on moral grounds. What a repugnant, irredeemable failure of a human being, to disrespect a profession she's dedicated so much of her life to like this.", "What are you even saying? How does he being late, which he should not have been, justify lawyers conspiring with the judge?", "Yeah that's what I'm wondering too. Also I noticed they just assumed that the bailif supposedly was telling the judge as soon as Sanchez arrived.", "Rip Carlin", "lmao Australia bet you one of those unruly drunks who goes to southeast asia but yeah buddy USA? Too scary.", "I feel like you're all aliens from another planet here or am I the psycho? Dude who steals your watch isn't your friend, dude who steals your car is your fucking mortal enemy.", "Right....but....he was late, correct? 9:07?", "Of course this is UT on the west side. I swear the most corrupt, intentionally ignorant and belligerent officials are always here. Don’t even get me started in the UPD, I thought West Valley/West Jordan cops were bad on their own, but these ones take thin blue line to the next level. When they were first formed and started taxing the municipality for their salaries I knew it was just a good ol’ boy scheme to concentrate the most bullshit into one police force. 10 years later and I’m still not surprised.", "Lol I like how you keep saying \"legal system, not justice system\" like you think you're dropping some philosophical bomb on everyone", "Was gonna say, that's only a year's salary. A conviction can fuck you over for several years at a minimum and can be deeply traumatic & stressful far beyond the material cost.", "Now the question becomes: How many before this guy did they send up the river like this? and/or How many other courtrooms pull this little system?", "I don't understand why this video is cut so much", "It’s really odd how your responses are just paraphrasing responses from that YOU made up . You’re literally making up counter argument then arguing them with yourself at this point. \n\nYou see that right? Anyway - good luck with being on-time. It’s hard work to overcome - especially if you’re the type of person who has an argument for everything.", "It sounds like he was at the doors to the courtroom on time, but it took a few minutes for the crowd to file in. So assuming his case wasn't the first called, he should have been fine. But it sounds like his lawyers made it a point to get his case called first, before court proceedings even began, so that an arrest warrant could be issued unlawfully. \n\nThe judge even questions whether they expect him to be there, and they say he's usually hours late or doesn't show up at all, giving more weight to the need for a warrant when he was a stoplight or two late at worst. \n\nYeah, he was \"late\" but the court stacked the deck against him anyway.", "The USA is exceptional for a lot of bad reasons among wealthy Western countries. Like, truly exceptional. It's shocking just how shit the USA is.\n\nAnd I'm sure it's lovely to live there if you aren't among the targeted groups. But that's just shoving your head well and truly deep into the sand.", "Me too. So smart, knows all the best words.", "Umm \"People are late and it happens. That’s okay.\" is literally a quote, weird that you have to lie like this to attack me.\n\nAlso I haven't been late for anything since college, I just think it's a weird thing to be proud of or judge other people for.", "Please, Mr mayor was my father's name, call me Jackson brown the third.\n\nAlso using such harsh language can be misconstrued as a sign of a dangerous disease known as caca mouth. Some symptoms include telling everyone if you were near a shooting you'd have stopped it, plastering your personal vehicle with your political ideologies and OH YEAH HURTING THE FEELINGS OF NICE PEOPLE YOU MEET ON THE INTERNET BY USING AN EXPIRED INSULT FROM THE 90S !!", "This is absolutely disgusting. Every single one of these people needs to be bard, unable to practice law ever again, and every single one of their cases reviewed. Shameful.", "The article was published last year.", "Charges were filed back in 08 and both judges were convicted in 2011.\n\nOne of them successfully appealed some of his convictions and is awaiting a new trial. He’s currently held in a federal facility in Kentucky where he’s been for a decade.\n\nThe other for 17 years but was released early in 2020 due to Covid.", "So you agree context matters. But the first comment says “no matter what late is late”. Now you’re arguing a completely tangential point. Alright I’m done here\n\nI would think that essentially no scenario would make being late by only 7 minutes worthy of arrest. Fuck the courts and what they take “seriously” we’re here arguing about what’s objectively ethical. It’s circular reasoning to say the court deserves to take it so seriously because they take it so seriously", "What I want to know, is how on EARTH did he acquire this video? It's not like they would stop the corruption when he asked for the video that EXPOSES exactly that. So somehow, the judge, the bailiff, everyone in that court room was somehow not aware this video was leaked/delivered? Shocked he got away with that, especially when they already destroyed video evidence in this case.", "Goodman was appointed by then Governor Gary Herbert who is...yup, Republican.\n\n*bOtH sIdeS!!11!!*", "EXACTLY. The US is fucking broken & unfair. But Americans are also shockingly incapable of hiding their own fraudulent nature so this shit tends to come to light. Progress does get made in the US, not as fast as it could, not as fast as it should. But it's not like Latin America where death squads have as much reign as the police. It's not like East Asia where there's minimal conception of human rights. It's not like the Midwest, where school shootings and jim crow are regular things- oh wait, fuck.", "I do well too and $45k is absolutely a lot of money to turn down. Tax free? Pay off your car loan and have most of the down payment for a house.\n\nBut if they're offering $45k I'm wondering what it's really worth...", "Lol nobody becomes a public defender to maximize profit that’s insane", "That's a lot of typing for someone ignoring the fact that his attorney had already lied to the judge at his expense and screwed him over 15 minutes before 9:00. The issue is conspiracy, not unfair treatment of people who are late.\n\nThat being said, there were over 40 other cases scheduled for 9am and he only needed to be there by 9:15 to be considered on time. He wasn't late.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/d6i1D_MI_Gs", "Dude pissed the Mob off foreal.", "I would be curious as to the status of bar complaints against the attorneys and the judge, if any were filed.", "Judge Katherine Bernards-Goodman, she needs to be named.", "I also noticed they just say the bailiff \"appeared\" to notify the judge of his arrival to set the whole conspiracy theme. He's already late at that point, there's no point in fudging the times.", "He isn't changing the story, late is late. How much that matters does depend on context. To which he even said, he wasn't sure how much.", "But it has WIFI that’s what I’m saying. So it’s nothing like that. It never starts with soft jail time and fines for the poors. Because of the wifi", "These assholes need to be disbarred and never allowed to do anything lawyerly ever again!", "Preserving the authority of the court is critical to the vitality and utility of courts.\n\nShe was doing her job, part of which is making sure people respect the court.", "I wish he hadn't gotten so dark and bitter right at the end. But the man was a prophet and a genius.", "im confused. are they being secretly recorded ? if not, dont they know they are being recorded ?", "Ok then so being late in and of itself isn’t damning. What’s damning is late by how much and the context surrounding it. So saying “late is late” is meaningless", "Completely fair and as a ex-mormon they deserve every bit of hate they can get and some. Firmly believe they contributed to killing my grandma and aunt.", "This is incredible disturbing. I hope he finds justice.", "Article also mentions that he was challenging an alleged dui from 3 years prior.\n\nDUIs go to trial in 8-12 months at the most. If it’s 3 years old, there was some serious shenanigans preceding it. I’d like to know more about the history of the case and this defendant.", "Ah ok I mean I downvoted because you’re full of shit but then you replying to this thread doesn’t grant you some freedom from being hypocritical. \n\nYou’re arguing something beside the point here. Some guy says late is late, I say fuck that context matters, you say “fuck you you’re wrong because…. Context matters?” The fuck? Sounds like you agree with *me* then", "From justice site: Judge Bernards-Goodman retired with full benefits; prosecutor Nathanael Swift still holds his position. Salt Lake Legal Defender Association zealously defends the actions of Heather Chesnut and Daniel Torrence. Officer Jared Cardon and the Unified Police Department keep violating people’s constitutional rights. Nothing has changed since the initial release of this video.", "Seriously. Odds that your case will get called at 9 on the dot are low, especially with how many cases there appeared to be in that courtroom. Plus he could’ve arrived early only to stand at security check. Happened to me both for hearings and jury duty. Wasn’t a fucking problem, court understood security check can take you from early to late pretty easily depending on the courthouse size and what’s on the docket.", "That’s why you don’t piss off your legal council", "you could think it would have his case tossed out or at least retried (I know someone said he pleaded)", "This is the biggest thing concerning public defenders, they’re on the same team. It’s why the rich get off with so much shit, private lawyers don’t give a shit about being buddies with the prosecutors or court staff, they’re there for those paying them, the client. Public defenders on the other hand have so many clients plus see the court staff often and prosecutors so often, they inevitably become well acquainted and, as it is seen with any job, friends will cut slack for friends. The whole systems fucked and rigged for those who can afford legitimate help", "\"How can a sane, non corrupt court\"\n\nGood luck finding that. Just like with police and politicians, judges and lawyers adhere to no law aside from their own.", "I mean..this is illegal", "No its not meaningless, because he outright clarified in his first comment that he *does not know* how much it matters.\n\nIf he hadn't said that, you'd have a point. He did though, so ironically you're either left having to ignore **his** comment context, or admit your own is actually meaningless.", "Depending on how much had been drunk, and how low the legal limit is, it's entirely possible that your friend was still over the limit 9 hours later.", "He was late though , shouldn't you show up early to court, still shitty though", "Bro hit option and changed team lmao", "Awesome- good for you dude!", "If the case is 3 years old there’s a history here.\n\nAnd late is late. If you’re not present when your case is called you failed to appear and a warrant is appropriate.\n\nMost judges will vacate the warrant they issue when you show up late and give you a talking to for being late, unless there’s a serious history of FTAing or other disregard of court orders.\n\nI suspect there’s a history here that we’re not getting.", "Ya so then it’s meaningless. He brings it up to suggest that being late even by 7 minutes is damning evidence, I say when it’s only 7 minutes it’s basically never enough to be damning in any way", "Whoosh", "I'm 32 and technically a millennial I found out yesterday.", "Not much adversary in the adversarial system on video, is there.", "Holy crap that is such a violation of a citizens rights to representation!\n\nI believe it’s a violation of the 6th amendment.\n\n“The Sixth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution not only guarantees criminal defendants the right to an attorney, but the right to \"adequate representation.\" This is true whether the defendant is indigent and has a court-appointed lawyer, or if the defendant hired their own lawyer”.", "I have no idea why you are trying to twist this in to a weird racial issue. Yes, western countries happen to be mostly white. Does that mean that their human rights or democracy is worsened by the color of their skins? And yes, I cherry picked countries that are most comparable to US, as in western countries. FYI US is one of them. \n\nBut sure, you can also for example compare abortion laws to middle eastern countries to point out US supremacy. No cherry picking there.", "100% agree. Mormons, Evangelicals, and Orthodox Jews can go fuck themselves. But those people who just want to go to church on sunday? Who cares. There's nothing wrong with belief if it makes someone's life better without warping how they treat others.", "Whoosh", "The legal system is so corrupt in the United States. Cops and procurators lie in court all the time", "He didn't say or suggest damning. He **literally** said he does not know how much, and I've also clarified that to you twice too. Are you illiterate?", "I mean like happened to people like Philando Castille, Tamir Rice, Eric Garner, Breonna Taylor, Walter Scott, and George Floyd.\n\nPresumed guilty and executed.", "Even if he delayed and missed court dates, he was here for this one. What matters is the here and now but as soon as someone has a \"record\", it's then the record that only matters and gives people a golden ticket to throw out how the system is supposed to work.", "Quarantining people during a pandemic? Oh the humanity! Why not just let everyone die instead?", "Bailiff. Clerk. Time to clean house.", "South Korea is the 11th biggest economy in the world.\n\nAbortions under the 14th week were decriminalized 1 year ago.", "What's the difference?", "This displays perfectly why our system is a joke. The rich at the top get away with rape (sometimes involving children) and murder. Meanwhile they conspire to fuck with everyday people. Fuck everything about our system.", "You're fucked now! Welcome to the front page of reddit baby! Where stars are made and the REAL criminals come to light*. Wooooo!\n\n*the judge and co-conspirators are the criminals..", "Please define \"western\" countries. Why is the US one of them?", "Jesus fucking Christ are you autistic or something? Read the fucking comment it says “unfortunately… he *was* late….” He’s making this point for a reason, he’s not just saying some trivial statement that you’re expected to draw no conclusion from. \n\nI mean by your logic we agree then and everything’s rosy. End of story.", "I've seen some fucked up things on the Internet but this is one of the most disgusting things I've seen in a while. They know there's cameras and microphones recording everything but they feel confidently safe to conspire, lie and laugh about the whole plan to abuse this individual. You now cannot trust any case that any of these people are involved in to be true.", "Yes, and then finish the comment. Where he says I DO NOT KNOW HOW MUCH IT MATTERS.\n\nThats four times dude. To think you suggest someone else is autistic.", "Yea this whole thing is highly sus.\n\nDUIs don’t take 3 years to get to trial unless you killed multiple people and even then that’s a very long time.\n\nI’m guessing he has a history of failing to keep his court appearances.", "Everyone involved need to be punished. The worst part is he was late anyway, they could have just let him dig his own grave, instead they joined him.", "Each involved individual should be put in prison for the maximum allowed time, for EACH crime they were setting that man up for, including whatever his court appearance was for, fined also the maximum, and disbarred from practicing any form of any law maintenance position ever again. This is in addition the the actual crimes the judge and court lawyers committed in fraud and criminal charges and false charges and false imprisonment. END THEM.", "You really got that upset over a jokey comment about the USA?", "I’m saying your comment makes even less sense now. Because why come in here saying context matters as some kind of counterpoint when that’s literally my point? \n\nDamn dude looks like you just really came in here with a shitty purpose in mind and you’re making yourself look like a complete fool while trying to make that point. This is so far removed from any actual argument of the post itself that this is literally pointless. Fuck off we’re done", "the story of how a life gets ruined through burocratic bolony", "I misread the title “…and the judge got them arrested” maybe because I’ve been conditioned to expect instant gratification and r/instantkarma here on Reddit.", "Those folks Laughing on the situation it to might be the most cringe about it.", "Oh yes, someone think of the poor bailiff, judge, clerk, prosecutor, and public pretender conspiring against a defendant before the court opens and then laughing about it. /s", "I make more, personally, than the average American family, which is two people. I make a multiple of that number. My wife makes more than me. We own a home in a HCOL. So, we have financial resources homeboy likely could not dream of, absent the GoFundMe. Not bragging, I’m setting the table.\n\nI retained legal counsel last year as regards a purely civil matter, so lower standard for the underlying issue.\n\nUnfortunately, I’ll tell you it’s standard to sign non-disclosures on settlements, so if we settled such a matter, I would be prevented from telling you about it - I’m just telling you I retained legal counsel. \n\nI will also say that counsel advised me, generally, that trial cases in his decades of practice - and this is across his field, not his specific practice - used to be a large fraction of work (say, something like one in five). He further advised me that today, it is viewed as a failure if a case advances to trial, and the percentage is something on the order of 2%.\n\nDraw what conclusions you may, but I will say in the last few years while I would have already been sympathetic to someone with less means settling, I have of late become unsurprised when even those wealthier than I settle, for functionally the same math.", "Don't compliment the piece of shit!", "I’m at a point in my life where I got offered $180,000 (that I might not have to pay back) to start a business. I turned it down because I didn’t feel like doing it lol. Then the pandemic hit and it would’ve ruined the business immediately anyway.", "How bout you get arrested in America then get back to us first", "Thank God me Sanchez caught on to their shady shit 🤔That is so messed up and that is why a lot of ppl r innocent until proven guilty😳 He should Sue those ppl and the Town or County Just Sue Them All Cause that’s not professional of them 🤬this is someone’s record and life u r trying to ruin 😠", "A single video outside the courtroom with a time stamp would show him waiting in the hallway as he claims, which would be nice to see.", "Or maybe some of the stupid redditors looked into it a little further and saw that he only needed to be there by 9:15 to be considered on time?\n\nWait no, it's definitely **your** preconceived notions that are accurate because you're so smart.\n\nEdit: source https://youtu.be/d6i1D_MI_Gs", "But unless you’re legitimately on the spectrum you’d realize he’s suggesting that it does matter and to some non trivial damning degree. Otherwise why even bring that up. You’re lack of ability to think critically or read between lines is pathetic man. This has nothing to do with the post anymore so fuck off we’re done", "Wow, that’s all I can say. All this just to screw this guy over. The DUI case should be dismissed, videos were deleted and the dash came didn’t work. Okay, well better luck next time, check your equipment. Sounds like some shit went down, and they deleted it to cover I it up. Cases like that should be thrown out, police lie all the time. They lack integrity, that’s why the body and dash cams became a thing in the first place.", "Especially when there's no video.", "Okay sure; but also the defendant was kind of late sometimes and that hurt her self-image as an authoritarian dictator so why don't you consider all angles huh???\n\n/s", "Kangaroo courts.", "It does matter to some non trivial degree. That's not what you said though is it? You said he is suggesting it's **damning**. That's completely different and unless **you** are on the hard end of the spectrum, you would know that.\n\nWhat he actually, quite explicitly says. Is he doesn't know to what degree, just that it is a degree.", "$45k would solve literally every problem in my life. It's a lot of money to a lot of people.", "And when it doesn’t happen we the people should be using the second amendment next.", "You're right, but the oirignal comment has upset a lot of people who are dowmvotijg everyone, it's equal parts sad and funny", "Matt Taibbi consistently amazes me. He is a light in the darkness.", "So pathetic lmao", "Shit like this makes me want to study law.", "I think it usually means western and northern Europe, NA, Australia and NZ.", "Imagine trying to win an argument by kink shaming them, jeez", "Lol bring this up to the top, this looks like another Boston Bomber situation. Reddit loves to jump to conclusions", "1) you can, the reality though is that they probably didn’t “conspire” against him like he alleges. He’s a litigant in a lawsuit seeking what I imagine is millions. He’s got an interest in how this is presented, and he’s raising money via go fund me. I wouldn’t take his word at face value. There’s likely a lot of history here we don’t have.\n\n2) he wasn’t in trial so there’s no basis for a mistrial \n\n3) you can appeal for a new trial after your conviction based on ineffective assistance of counsel. When you plead guilty, though, you waive that right.\n\n4) he’s currently suing for money.", "I think I recognize the court room to boot. I’m thinking Utah county", "After seeing this would one still have trust in the death penalty?", "It would be an understatement to call his previous behaviors \"frustrating\".", "Everyone will get even better at the Winter Olympics in Europe!", "I lost respect though", "Yea and all 40 need to be there at 9:00 am. That’s how court works.", "interesting. I named a defendant who was the target of a witch hunt for political reasons and instead of acknowledging that he was correctly acquitted, you have to bring in all these other examples like you're saying \"No, not that one! That one doesn't count\"\n\nAgain, interesting. Given your stance it would seem to me to be a better idea to recognize that the justice system tried to railroad Rittenhouse too. And thus establish some common ground with those who might otherwise disagree with you. Instead you deployed a defensive tactic. I wonder why that is.", "Thanks for bring that to my attention, never knew", "That judge will burn in hell!", "Eh, he didn't really fight. He didn't show up to like ten trials, and he fired and hired a whole bunch of public defenders. He kept filing improper motions, over and over again. He was stalling for like 6 years, not fighting.", "While it's bad in the us in general, utah is far worse", "> How can a sane, non corrupt court watch this video and not rule against these lawyers and judge.\n\nThey're not going to turn against their own. Similar to when police investigate police.", "Someone oopsied and deleted the footage from the precinct as well, what a coincidence", "Mexico is in NA, would you call that \"western\"?\n\nSorry I'm really not trying to be facetious, I just think that it is important to think about what makes that list of countries \"western.\" It's not geographic location (AUS would like a word). You could certainly boil it down to race, and that should be cause for self reflection. That's all.", "He’s not in trial, can’t be a mistrial.\n\nShe could be disbarred or suspended yes but I’m all likelihood he’s exaggerating his claims.\n\nA 3 year old DUI tells me that there’s a lot of history here that’s we’re not getting.", ">And before blaming it on the most used democracy index on planet you must understand that the issues in US democracy are quite visible.\n\nOh I'm not \"blaming,\" I'm arguing a single entity making claims doesn't make those claims set in stone. Using an appeal to the masses doesn't really hit either. It works great as markers on who needs to improve and who is doing good by their people. It isn't set up as a dick measuring contest. Nor is it the end all be all of who is a democracy and who isn't.", "I agree with harsh punishment for DUIs. But a single person blowing .08 while otherwise driving within the speed limit etc is not personally responsible for “a lot of innocent people getting killed.” They took a risk and jeopardized people, sure, but extended jail time and endless years of punishment that makes them not able to work or make things right is not a productive way of dealing with a first offense. Keeping people broke and jobless over it is counter productive.\n\nIn general our justice system is too punitive, especially to working class people, and not focused on actual corrective measures. Classes and community service, and a short period of probation should be enough. Harsher penalties should reserved for second offenses.", "Watching that video makes me feel sick. Everyone here should lose their jobs, and never be allowed to work in the judicial system again. They obviously don't believe in true justice.", "America was made for a small lot of Christian extremists and got rich on genocide and slavery. your main culture now is highways cheeseburgers and kids with machine guns. seemingly run by a bunch of white male centenarians who want the Bible as law and think poor folks deserve abuse. the deep rot that exists from its inception as a state on stolen land in the name of Jesus Christ only grows deeper. America as a dominant culture looooooooool thanks for Zuckerberg and Monsanto and Perdue Pharma... spreading poison all over the world 👍👍👍 buying all the world plastic and burning all the oil then pointing the finger outward...geeeeet bent", "Yes. For years I've been saying distracted driving should have drunk driving levels of enforcement and punishment. At least drunks usually have one eye on the road, but texters don't. \n\n First offense can be considered a redeemable lesson. Second I say lesson not learned, life sentence.", "Of course it's Utah.", "Wonder how this would've gone if his last name was Smith instead of Sanchez.", "Different Judge, but yeah pretty jarring to see that’s his decision", "That last sentence is where they tend to lose sight. How AWESOME would that be if these guys actually did some of this stuff, followed the actual teaching. I want to follow the biblical Jesus, that dude braided a leather scourge in front of the rest of the disciples while they are all like \"oh fuck them money changers done it now\" then proceeded to beat some ass. How amazing would that be if they actually followed the teaching.", "It's utah, as long as they are mormon they won't be prosecuted", "The judge recalled the case specifically to ask him what time he showed up, probably because she felt uneasy about the premature warrant. Honestly though, it is a bit messed up that the defense attorney didn't at least try to ask for the warrant to be revoked or stricken and to just proceed with the case because he was present in court.", "Found James Hetfield's Reddit account", "Did you kill or hurt someone in the DUI? Because 50k bond is very high for a basic DUI so I think you’re lying about something.\n\nAlso blowing under .08 doesn’t mean you can’t be convicted btw. That’s not how it works.", "As someone whose never late I'll say that it's hardly none. I used to live with someone who was perpetually late and the problem is that you people have no idea how to plan. You don't think of how long it takes to get there, what traffic might be like, or if you need to make any stops.\n\nIt's super easy to open waze 30 minutes before you plan to leave and see if there is any traffic that might cause you to need to leave early. When you actually pay attention to time and your surroundings it's very easy to be on time and not have to just wait around.", "I've been to court 4 times for various things. All 4 times the police drastically falsified their reports. I mean blatant lies. It happens often.", "In a thread of stupid takes this might be the dumbest.", "Oh so if its a state thing then it doesn't apply when he crosses the border. So right there, law broken 😕", "Great too hear, too bad it took that for him to finally be arrested and charged with something", "Here are the facts. \nWas the man late to court? Yes.\nWas he supposed to be there at 9. Yes\nDo we know for a fact that the lawyer lied about him being late? No\nAre people taking what someone said about him not being late all the time on the video as fact even though no one knows. Yes\nWas he late before or missed the proceedings in an earlier meeting? Yes\nDo judges issue bench warrants when people don't attend the hearing? Yes\nShould he have been late to his own DUI case. No\nDo you waste everyone's time when you are late and show contempt for the proceedings. Probably\n\nI am ready for the down votes. Please let me know if I got anything wrong.", "This is almost guaranteed to be insiders versus outsider. Insiders being Mormon in Utah. \n\nThere’s no room for this crap in our justice system.", "Especially not one who uses the same account to comment on cuck porn as he does post his trash political takes.", "People that drive drunk deserve to lose their rights and spend time in prison. I’ve lost 4 friends in my life to drunk drivers, and they were all children.", "What do you mean, \"you people\"?", "I don’t think you’d like their take", "America lacking in basic rights for their citizens lmao ok guy", "Nobody becomes one fore free either", "True, Mexico is not considered one of them.\n\nSo what you are saying is \"western countries\" is a racist term. Is Europe a racist term too? What about Denmark? Canada?\n\nAre you sure your wokeness hasn't taken you too far?\n\nAnyway, my original point was that you can compare US fine with most countries, however it doesn't fare as well if you compare it to wes... similar democracies", "The wording is ambiguous and could also be interpreted as the judge had the defense attorney arrested.", "Damn I wish I had known that the public defenders worked for me when I was a prosecutor. Mind blown.", "Doesn't exist", "I just got back from court where another lawyer was 2 minutes late and the judge dismissed all 13 cases he had in that court. I’m not really commenting on this video but courts don’t fuck around with their deadlines or times.", "How do these efucking people sleep", "As someone from the eu ! Do reservation police ‘trump’ local / state police on reservation land.\n\nSorry for the totally Eli5 question.", "As opposed to the right which just outright states that they hate the poor?", "Every attorney does this if they are court appointed. Hint hint, they all know each other and deserve to be killed.", "Had an old boss of mine tell me if you are 15 min early you are late... I guess he was right.", "Perpetually late, easily distracted, self centered people.\n\nLike you.", "He had a misplaced persecution complex.", "... do I know you? Are you in my office right now?", "No, that's not what I said.", "Cool. When I said \"problems\" though, I really meant a breadth of problems: reproductive rights, gun deaths, civil rights, education, healthcare, etc... On almost all counts, the US does very poorly among other civilized, or 1st world, countries. The things we are clearly number one on are size of the economy and the military.", "It’s mainly no matter your response, the system and game will change in their favor as long as they control the system and rules. You don’t have video? That’s why. You have video? Well that’s not enough.", ">The point that user is trying to make is it’s never a crime to *be* or to *think*, only to *do* regardless of how despicable you may think a person to be. Criminalizing such things would be a slippery slope leading to injustice. How would you prove to a court for the purpose of conviction that someone is a pedophile without concrete proof of illegal action?\n\nAgain, it's telling how the user felt the need to make that correction. Was it needed in the context of the thread? No. The original point had nothing to actually do with pedophilia, it was merely an example, and we all understood the point being made fine.\n\nIt's also telling how they corrected it with just physical abuse, when there's plenty other crimes, so much to the point that clarity, in fact, is **not** needed for the point OP was trying to make. \n\nAlways, on Reddit, there's plenty people here to argue the toss over the legality and semantics around pedophilia even when (like this time)it's literally not relevant.\n\nThat's why they are an apologist. \n\nIt wasn't needed, yet here they were.\n\nEdit - and if you want to talk about false analogy, in typical Reddit fashion I was dragged into that by the bullshit 'I've thought about killing someone, does that make me a murder apologist' - what even point is that? What are they saying, having thoughts about pedophilia wouldn't make you one or an apologist because having thoughts about killing someone doesn't make you a murder apologist?..... Because that's a weird fucking argument but sure, **I'm** the one with false analogies here.\n\nWhen someone decides they need to argue and correct someone who claims a peadophile is a criminal, when it literally doesn't matter to the point being made, that tacitly sends out a message.", "I’m glad the “honorable” judge found this so funny", "The right people don't live in fear", "Damn, if the US is a \"poor country\", then there us no hope for the world, since the US is 9th in highest average nominal income in the world. Australia must be absolutely dirt poor if they are 13th.", "It's a huge breach of trust to be sure. People make mistakes, up to us whether or not we can forgive them for that.\n\nSounds like this guy forgave his friend as the friend was in a rough spot in life, and later helped the friend climb out of that dark space. So he was hurt in the short term, but did good for the friend in the long term.\n\nIs that kind of altruism really so strange to you? That's sad.", "Disney is like 3000 per person coming from eu with flights / hotel etc 🙈", "I agree", "Yes.", "But certainly more easily proven fake. If only because it isn't archeological. Timeline is documented.\n\nIt was the go to \"successful mainstream cult\" example until eL Ron wrote a sci-fi book for dummies.", "Hmm. Do you know which state that is?", "What a fucking kangaroo court", "Just a few bad apples...", "There's a lot of weird stuff in the bible that just conveniently gets ignored or, like the \"miracles\", has stopped happening\n\nFor example the bible explains that God/Yahweh was given his authority over Israel from a superior Canaanite god named El (I believe those eventually got merged which is why God is sometimes called Elohim) meaning Christians worship a lesser god stolen from a different religions pantheon\n\nOr there's the story of Sodom which has somehow been turned into a way to bash homosexuality when the story was actually about corruption and violence\n\nOr the big example being what it means to be Christlike and act with charity.... He wouldn't recognize his followers from their behavior", "So then what did you say and how does it relate to this post, specifically?", "Yea part of the dangers of social media and the internet is that it can be used by self-interested people to undermine faith in democratic institutions through misinformation and propaganda.", "I don't know the exact legal jargon in a second language, the guy got jail no money.", "Is there anything we can do along with donating to his Gofundme? Make calls, send emails with attached video to someone, pray to Cthulhu to save us from ourselves?", "Yup. Just look at how circumcision is commonplace in the US but not in other western countries. I’m honestly surprised female genital mutilation didn’t become commonplace too. (And no, I’m not saying circumcised people are terrible, but it’s fucked up that, in order to stop people from exploring their own bodies, [we decided chopping off part of a baby’s penis was okay](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_circumcision#Masturbation_concerns))", "Yes, that is what I was trying to say: an index is handy \"shorthand\" tool but you can point out flaws without it in many cases. I mean with democracy it is way easier to point out the problems than to fix them.", "A state of your own whimsical thoughts as you start to get dressed 5 minutes after you were supposed to already be somewhere.", "Yea people need a salary to do stuff like buy food that’s how economics works.\n\nPDs make like 50k a year if they’re lucky and they have law school debt on top of typical expenses like mortgages/rent.\n\nIf you want to make money as a lawyer you go into corporate law.", "These people are the lowest of low. I don't understand how clear evidence of corruption, collusion, and perjury can go unpunished?", "Interesting. I talked about the legal rights we're guaranteed, and you responded by downvoting and naming someone who was given the ***full*** benefit of those rights.\n\nI then responded with people who didn't get the benefits of those rights, and you assume that means \"No, not that one! That one doesn't count\".\n\nI was just talking in general. ***You*** wanted to make it about specific cases. My examples are of people who were ACTUALLY denied the rights I mentioned. Yours isn't.", "What we're seeing is a lack of accountability", "We've investigated ourselves and cleared us of any wrongdoing!", "lol you *do* have a vivid imagination, don't you?", "I find it funny the dude called them Christians. American Christians don't think Mormons or Catholics for that matter are Christians.", "Easy to say until your relative gets killed by a multiple dui offender who just didn't give a fuck until it was too late.", "don’t be sorry", "I can’t watch it is makes me so upset.", "OP, I witnessed u/jesuskevin reading the title and recognized the time as 1 hour ago, while this was posted over 8 hours ago. This is not the first time OP has read the title late.", "The way they cackle to each other. About what? Fucking with a mans innocence? They do it because they can and they’re on a power trip. Fuck each and every one of these people they need to be sentenced themselves. Fucking devils", "The penalty for this sort of corruption should be very high. I’m talking at least a decade.", "The claim is that he was in the building before 9:00, but because the courtroom was overcrowded, he couldn't get past all the other people until 9:05.", "No, I just grew up with someone like you so I have a lot of references to pull from.", "got some bad news, depending on where you're at - even hiring an attorney out of pocket, there is a chance that attorney and prosecutor and judge are friends and making deals behind your back.\n\nthis same thing happened to me (almost) and that was with me hiring my own attorney. This was in a backwater Georgia town where everyone was friends, so it did not matter that they attorney was private practice, he was just there to usher people to jail and collect fees.", "Like going to jail shit happens", "Sorry, I should have provided that originally\n\nhttps://youtu.be/d6i1D_MI_Gs", "Then what are you even saying? You just want to nag on kids? 😂", "Probably true and a lot of us most likely do this without even knowing it. We’re human. We’re shitty", "I’ve always wanted to live in a country that has totally gotten rid of corruption. Please let me know where you live so I can leave the evil USA", "This US system is rotten to the core. The so called leaderships have been in power for decades. Exactly the same group or family have been in power for decades and in some cases generations. \n\nAnd then you have politicians who salary is less than 200k a year and then in 10 to 20 years, their networks grow into 20 to 100 millions.", "This is awful. I’m a defense attorney and I can’t imagine asking for my client to get a warrant. It’s like a doctor asking for their healthy patients to be put down. Both are asking for the exact opposite of what they’re suppose to be seeking. When my clients are late or no show, I’ll do whatever I can to buy time or continue the case to a later date. At a minimum, you move to continue the case even if you know your motion is going to be denied. You have to do something, anything, to try to save them. And, this is all assuming this is all happening sometime after court starts. I absolutely cannot imagine advocating for my client to get a warrant, and it’s a double whammy to let it happen before the session has even started. Irrespective what what his attorney did, I can’t believe the court even entertained issuing a warrant before court began. There’s a 0% chance that a judge in my district would have issued a warrant for failure to appear before the defendant is even scheduled to appear. That’s what make me think that there’s something more going on here. There has to be. The ADA, defense attorney, and the judge wouldn’t have gone to such great lengths otherwise. Whatever that something more happens to be will probably make this even worse. I hope there are some real consequences. I don’t know where this is, but here in my state all parties would owe some serious explanations to the bar, and I have a hard time seeing any of them offering a satisfactory answer.", "All those people's legal careers should be over and they should be facing some type of criminal sanctions.", "Oh, I didn't catch that.\n\nStill outrageous tho. Judge doesn't want to set a precedent of holding judges accountable", "It's common for criminal defense attorneys, especially public defenders, to strongly encourage their clients to take a plea to avoid trial, but at the end of the day, it's the client's decision. This is inexcusable.", "Think he meant the money's returned to the bondsman by the court when you show up, wording is ambiguous. \n\nBut it's edited so I don't know what you're really responding to.", "Ok, fair enough. I think we've strayed from the original point, though, which was \"I get scared about going to the US.\". I guess it's relative, but clearly there are millions of people who would disagree with that claim. The US must be less scary than wherever those 51,000,000 immigrants came from.", "Straight to prison, 10 years minimum, every single case any one of them has ever been involved in must be thoroughly reviewed by independent experts from other jurisdictions, and they should all be required to compensate their victims for every single instance of crimes like this.\n\nBut, it's America, and to make things worse it's Utah.", "Welp, that settles it. No more trips to Utah for me. That wacky ass state hasn't even disbarred these people?", "What is happening with these abhorrent garbage human beings? Are any of them facing justice? Can we get some names and addresses for a little internet justice?", "Abuse of power is disgusting… I wish nothing but the worst punishment for these people.\n\nAnd the fact they laugh it up all the way makes me think of worst things they deserve \n\nHumans pieces of trash", "That's fucking disgraceful !", "You do get your money back after showing up to court. Maybe it’s different by county or state but in my experiences I’ve gotten my 10% back.", "Was it a public defender? It sounds like something they'd do. Their job seems to be to pretend the accused has representation, while encouraging them to plead guilty.", "Shithole country gonna do shithole things", "As they sit their laughing at this person situation. Disgusting human beings. Sadly if they get released from their duties I'd bet the walk away with their pensions", "So when do we go all Robespierre and break out the guillotines?", "Eh.\n\nWhile the divine inspiration for the bible is fake \n\nThe actual bible is full of ancient literature that includes poetry, tragedy, and metaphors. I think you can be an atheist and still appreciate the bible what it is\n\nThe book of Mormon is a whole cloth fabrication purposely made by a grifter to deceive people for personal gain. The text of the book of Mormon value is somewhere between blatant plagiarism to bad fan fiction", "At what point does society say \"That's It We're done!!\" with this bullshit and start to exact some form of organized and well funded vigilantism against corrupt police, judges, politicians and CEO's?", "c'mon you're better than that", "Its like Charmander vs Charizard. The White Conservative College kid MIGHT be a good lawyer one day. He's just as likely to be a right wing nutjob though.", "I'd say we probably all drank no more than 6 beers each over the span of about 4 hours. Like I said, we were just chilling watching a game at a buddy's house. It's not like we went on a Sunday night bender and he woke up still drunk to drive to work. I don't know what the officer said his BAC was or if he requested a blood test or not, but I was with him the whole time we were drinking, and he didn't even really get drunk, just a healthy buzz. He's a fairly big dude at over 6' and probably around 220lbs, so I personally find it pretty hard to believe someone of his size would still be over the legal limit, let alone impaired, after a full night's sleep.", "\\[citation needed\\]\n\nYou aren't communicating very clearly, but perhaps if you link a source we might be able to figure out what you're trying to say?", "There a detailed description about the history of the case somewhere in the comments. He missed two previous courts dates, one of which was because the bail bond company gave him the wrong date and the other they didn’t say. But he did miss two court cases one of which wasn’t his fault. The fact to me is that I’ve been fighting a case for several years and I know my lawyers aren’t shit and are trying to get me to plead guilty, I would be showing up early for everything. The dude was acting like it was a regular ol’ traffic ticket and not a DUI.", "Judge and Prosecutor should be disbarred too, but that would require actual Justice.", "They aren't even sorry. This guys case for wrongdoing was sent **TO THE SAME JUDGE** who dismissed it.", "This video is making me livid.", "My brother was arrested years ago for something that he was completely innocent of and his bail was set at $100,000, my dad had to borrow $10k from a family friend in order to get him out of jail. When the charges were finally dropped that money is gone and you never get it back, so fucking broken", "That’s why they offered him $45k — because they know it’ll cost them *way* more when he wins.", "How did he know what was being conspired and to look and ask for these tapes and recordings?", "What a crap argument. Of course it's easy to say when I have had a tragedy clouding my reason and critical thinking ability. Sure, I might want revenge after something like that happened, but that's not noble and certainly isn't reason for state punishment.\n\nTrauma isn't a valid excuse for perpetuating a system that ruins peoples lives while doing nothing to prevent the situation that led to the trauma in the first place.\n\nTrauma isn't a valid excuse to persue personal vengeance.\n\nTrauma isnt a valid excuse to trust anecdote over science.", "fuck this judge and her whole family", "If you look into their history in the US (especially the direct ties with the KKK), it's really no surprise.", "I really want to hear that the judge is not a judge any more and the prosecutor and defense attorney are not attorneys any more. There is a lot of bullshit inside that court room.", "Shit like this is really really fucking up my ability to empathize with large swaths of people in the USA for simply being part and party to the respective systems. - Holy shit.", "Dear Luis, don't be late to court... multiple times. It's kind of important to be there early actually. You know, so you don't get arrested, even if your lawyer is an asshole.", ">However, thinking a little bit more about it, I wonder how quick reform would happen if a bunch of rich white people had to spend months in jail awaiting trial for their underage drunk driving incidents.\n\nJust like the draft, rich and influential people will always find away to skirt the rules.\n\nI heard a similar argument in the 2000s when people were pissed off about unnecessary and illegal wars and thought if we brought back a draft then we'd stop having these wars because then it wouldn't just be poor people fighting them.\n\nIt's never a good idea to try and make things worse for the average person in the hopes that it snags in enough rich/influential people to motivate them to change the whole system.", "No that's totally fine to ask! Tribal jurisdiction is a very complicated matter. We even adapted one of those Scandinavian crime thrillers about who has jurisdiction and made it centered in Seattle police/Washington State/Canadians and tribal police. It was called \"The Killing\" in United States. \n\nLocal police/State law enforcement have no jurisdiction on reservation lands in the United States. What's problematic is Immigration and Customs Inforcement (ICE) is a federal police agency. \n\nIf there's a federal crime they should supercede Tribal police but they need warrants issued by a federal court judge. For instance if you robbed a bank, you can't hide in Reservation territory and expect the local tribal police to handle it.\n\nThat being said without a federal judge issuing a warrant you can't arrest or detain people on the reservation.\n\nYou cant proactively go on to reservation territory to find criminal activity.", "> Just being a cunt to everyone doesn't get you anywhere except thrown out. Being a cunt to a select group, that's how you get progress.\n\nI don't think screaming \"lol bible fake\" on a street corner is productive in any way, but \n1. noting theistic scripture outside of Mormonism is also fiction is hardly \"being a cunt\", and \n2. Christians-at-large is still just \"a select group\", not some arbitrary \"everyone\" against whom it's suddenly a huge \"ur a cunt\" Internet no-no to note that they believe in fictional mythology. \n\n> But those people who just want to go to church on sunday? Who cares. \n\nAs an atheist who's never tried to hide it, I've met a few extremely nice Mormons who've never proselytized at me. There are also a pretty large number of Mormons in the Foreign Service. \"omg not all Christians so stfu don't be a cunt\" as some magical line in the sand just readily applies to Mormons, as well.", "Massive Court Corruption\nTwo public defenders from the Salt Lake Legal Defender Association, Heather J. Chesnut and Daniel Torrence, conspired to put their own client in jail for challenging his charges and refusing to plead guilty. They are now being sued.\n\nTheir client Luis Sanchez, since the inception of the criminal case, had been claiming his innocence and had demanded a jury trial. He had also made multiple and unsuccessful requests to have crucial video evidence released to him concerning the arrest.\n\nFor years, his defense attorneys had been pressuring him to plead guilty without ever receiving or reviewing video evidence that police had in their possession. Sanchez felt so frustrated by the lack of help he had been receiving from his primary attorney Heather Chesnut, that he was forced to file his own legal motions in District Court.\n\nBackground\nThe case stemmed from a charge that alleged that Sanchez had failed to stop at the command of a police officer. In an early December morning of 2014, police had been dispatched near a residence where a party had taken place, and where a fight had been reported. When police arrived, Sanchez and multiple other people in different vehicles were in the process of driving away.\n\nOne responding officer was Jared Cardon from the Unified Police Department of Greater Salt Lake. In his police report, officer Cardon states that once he arrived near the residence, he saw three vehicles getting ready to leave. Officer Cardon then states that he stepped out of his patrol vehicle and stretched his arms out and signaled the vehicle closes to him to stop.\n\nCourt records from an evidentiary hearing offers testimony where Sanchez declares he was the second vehicle in line. Sanchez as well as officer Cardon, state that the first vehicle in line had stopped once Cardon gave him a gesture to stop. Both Sanchez and officer Cardon then declare that the first car in line drove around the officer and accelerated away.\n\nNext is where the issue arises. Officer Jared Cardon claims that Sanchez was driving the first car in line. He also states that he slammed his hand on the hood of Sanchez’s car in an effort to order him to stop.\n\nMr. Sanchez and multiple other witnesses affirm that Sanchez was the second car in line and that they never saw any officer slam the hood of Sanchez’s car, nor any other vehicle that was about to drive away.\n\nSanchez states he was never given a direct order to stop. He reveals that he only drove away after waiting a significant amount of time after officer Cardon had ran into his patrol vehicle, due to the first car that had sped away. Believing they were not being sought by police, Sanchez and the other vehicle behind him resumed driving.\n\nOfficer Cardon refutes this and claims that the first car in line was that of Sanchez. He alleges that Sanchez willfully ignored numerous commands to stop and that he sped away while the other two vehicles waited. He explains that the blatant disregard to his commands to stop, led him to charge Sanchez with fleeing and subsequently with DUI and resisting arrest.\n\nSystematic Police Corruption\nOfficer Cardon’s version of events and the order of the vehicles is heavily contradicted through court testimony and by multiple witnesses.\n\nIn March of 2017, after hearing the testimony of multiple witnesses concerning the arrest and specifically the order of the vehicles, Judge Bruce Lubeck determined that, “The second vehicle, a Toyota Camry, was driven by defendant.” Judge Lubeck was convinced that Mr. Sanchez was the second car in line when officer Jared Cardon approached the scene. Nonetheless, the case and the charges against Sanchez continued.\n\nThroughout the case, Sanchez had been persistent in attempting to acquire police dash cam, and police station recordings because he believed he could prove that officer Jared Cardon was lying about what really occurred that morning of his arrest. He was convinced the video would prove he did not flee, resist arrest, nor that he was impaired to drive as he affirms that he had performed all field sobriety tests and completed them successfully.\n\nOfficer Cardon declared in court that Sanchez only took one field sobriety test and refused further testing. At a different time, he stated he did not remember if Sanchez completed them, at even another hearing, he declared that Sanchez did complete all tests but failed them all. Officer Jared Cardon changed and heavily contradicted his own testimony throughout the case. Video recordings of the arrest would have clarified all doubts of what truly had occurred.\n\nFive years into the case and Unified Police Department failed to ever provide any videos regarding the arrest. They claim that the dash cam recordings of the vehicles were never saved due to a system malfunction and that the videos from the police department were ultimately deleted and never saved.\n\nThis destruction of exculpatory evidence was a clear violation of Sanchez’s constitutional right to due process. The state is required to retain and provide any exculpatory evidence that was ever in their possession and that may help a defendant in their case. Due to the destruction of this evidence, Sanchez was not afforded the opportunity to adequately defend himself against the State and its actors. This constitutional violation could have forced the prosecution to dismiss the charges against Sanchez if Heather Chesnut and Daniel Torrence would have brought it to the attention of the court.\n\nHeather Chesnut and Daniel Torrence not only failed to represent Sanchez adequately, but they also used the criminal justice system to punish him for attempting to exercise his constitutional right to be tried by a jury of his peers.\n\nDespite constant pressure from his attorneys to plead guilty, Sanchez remained determined to go to trial. This unwavering determination angered Heather Chesnut and Daniel Torrence. This meant they would have to prepare for the case and subsequently go to trial.\n\nSanchez states that on one meeting, Heather Chesnut questioned him why he wanted to go to trial and become a felon for the fleeing charge. She asked him if he was intending to be initiated into a gang, that this was the only reason why she believed he would want to go to trial. Sanchez replied that he did not want to plead guilty for something he did not do.\n\nConspiring Against their Own Client\nOn the morning of March 19th, 2018, Sanchez was scheduled to appear for a pretrial conference at 9 a.m., but Heather Chesnut and Daniel Torrence had a different plan. They conspired to have a warrant issued against their own client, by having his case called early and before he was to be present in court. This was all caught by courtroom audio and video recordings.\n\nIn a video acquired by Sanchez, Torrence is heard whispering to Chesnut, “Let’s call it and get a warrant,” as he proceeds to laugh. Chesnut points to the clock on the wall, the time is 8:39 a.m., Sanchez and dozens of other individuals are not scheduled for court for another 21 minutes.\n\n“Is it time?”, Torrence asks Heather, “8:40? Ok. Four Minutes? 8:45.”\n\nFive minutes pass and Chesnut tells the judge they are ready to proceed on Sanchez’s case. It is 8:45 a.m., and the prosecutor walks over to address the court and participate in the scheme.", "Prosecutor and Judge – Corruption at the Highest Level\nTorrence gets up from the attorney’s table and calls for Sanchez as he makes a show of scanning the courtroom in search of him. As he doesn’t see Sanchez, he shrugs his shoulders and immediately turns and looks at Prosecutor Nathanael Swift. Swift, right on cue, exclaims – “But he always comes in late”.\n\nJudge Katie Bernanrds-Goodman calls Sanchez’s case and asks Chesnut and Torrence if they are not expecting Sanchez to arrive, as she is aware of the time and that court hearings are not to start for another 15 minutes.\n\nTorrence explains, “I always expect him although last time he was not here, and it was only after my secretary called him that he remembered to come”.\n\nCourt documents show that on the previous court hearing, Daniel Torrence failed to appear for the scheduled pretrial conference, and that judge Bernards-Goodman was forced to reschedule it. Torrence’s statement was nothing but a deliberate and false accusation against his own client.\n\nProsecutor Swift then exclaims, “Mr. Sanchez has a history of coming in very late. He has missed a few altogether.”.\n\nCourt records indicate that Mr. Sanchez had been late to court once, and that he had missed two court hearings in the span of 5 years of which the case had been active. In one of the missed court hearings, Sanchez’s bond company called the court explaining that they had given Sanchez the wrong court date.\n\nIt was now clear to the judge what was taking place. A concerted act by both defense attorneys and prosecutor, to have a warrant issued against Sanchez for failing to appear.\n\nJudge Bernards-Goodman proceeds to order a $15,000 cash-only warrant against Sanchez. A cash-only warrant meant that Sanchez would not be able to seek the services of a bail bond company. The full bail amount would be required to be paid in cash in exchange for his release.\n\nOnce the warrant was ordered, the court clerk asked the judge, “So, what are we going to do when he shows up?” the judge replied, “We’re going to take him into custody”, as she proceeds to laugh.\n\nSanchez Enters the Lion’s Den\nOn an interview given to The Salt Lake Tribune, Sanchez tells reporter, Jessica Miller, that on the hearing of March 19th, he had arrived early to court. He said he spent a few minutes waiting in his car to kill time before entering the court.\n\nSanchez states he was outside the courtroom doors by 9 a.m. He also claims he attempted to walk inside but that the courtroom was overcrowded. This was evident from courtroom video recordings.\n\nSanchez said he waited outside for the courtroom to clear up a little before he attempted to find a seat. He explains he did not go in because he had many times been instructed to wait outside and not block the doors for it being a safety hazard.\n\nAt 9:07 a.m. the courtroom had briefly cleared up and Sanchez walks in. A few minutes later, the courtroom again overflowing, and bailiff Steve Adams can be seen instructing people to go outside.\n\nAt 9:17 a.m., Sanchez eventually walks up to Chesnut and asks her where Torrence is. She informs him that his case had been called and that a warrant had been issued for his arrest. She instructs him to wait until his case is once again called by the judge. In the video, prosecutor Swift can be seen looking directly at Chesnut and Sanchez while they are speaking.\n\nSanchez then waits for over an hour-and-a-half before prosecutor Nathanael Swift finally decides to tell the judge that Sanchez is present. Judge Bernards-Goodman replies by saying that she will wait and see if Sanchez calls his case as she proceeds to laugh. She finds it amusing what is taking place and what they’re about to consummate.\n\nA few seconds pass and judge Bernards-Goodman orders bailiff Adams to arrest Sanchez. He is arrested and spends almost two weeks in jail until he is able to come up with the bail amount.\n\nAssault on the Justice System\nThis was not only an assault on Sanchez, but more severely, it was an assault on our Justice System. If people lose trust in their system of justice, what grave consequences can follow? It puts the fabric of our society in jeopardy.\n\nWhy would people willingly walk into a courtroom if they know they have no chance at a fair trial nor due process – where an entire courtroom is willing to act with complete disregard of the law and without any consequences.\n\nAs of March of 2021, there have been no consequences to any of the perpetrators. Judge Bernards-Goodman retired with full benefits; prosecutor Nathanael Swift still holds his position. Salt Lake Legal Defender Association zealously defends the actions of Heather Chesnut and Daniel Torrence. Officer Jared Cardon and the Unified Police Department keep violating people’s constitutional rights. Nothing has changed since the initial release of this video.\n\nIf nothing is done after irrefutable video evidence of the systematic corruption withing the justice system, nothing will ever be done.\n\nWe demand that a criminal investigation be initiated against all parties involved in this heinous attack on our system of justice. All these attorneys should be disbarred including the prosecutor and judge. We will not rest until something is done.\n\nWe will be contacting different government agencies responsible for investigating such acts and we will be reporting their response and actions in regard to this case. We will see how deep the corruption goes and how far they will defend these crimes against the people they are supposed to protect.\n\nLuis Sanchez was offered a significant amount of money in exchange for his silence. If accepted, he would have been barred from speaking about what happened to him and about what goes on in our courts, he refused. “This case is bigger than me. This case is more important than money. Something needs to be done, something needs to change. I don’t want anyone to go through what I did.”, Sanchez expressed in an interview.\n\nThe Entire System is Corrupt\nCorruption withing the entire system of justice was necessary in order for this case to be possible. From false police reports, deliberate withholding and destruction of evidence from UPD, to an entire courtroom participating in the unlawful arrest of Sanchez.\n\nWe are in the process of producing an updated video of this incident with responses from government agencies in charge of investigating cases of governmental corruption. It will also cover in detail, the false reports from police and their contradicting statements in court, as well as their deliberate withholding of evidence. It will also contain more evidence of Chesnut and Torrence’s egregious actions against Sanchez.\n\nThis is not in isolated incident. There are more people who have and who continue to suffer from similar actions from their attorneys, police, and court actors. \n\nYou Can Make a Difference\nSanchez is still in the process of challenging his criminal convictions via the Postconviction Relief Act due to the heinous actions and ineffective assistance of his attorneys. If you would like to help with his attorney fees and expenses, please donate here. Any additional funds will be used to fund our investigations and production costs.\n\nYou can also help by contacting the Attorney General’s Office and demand that a full investigation be made against all perpetrators involved in this case.\n\nSend an email to the Attorney General’s Office and demand a full and transparent investigation at uag@agutah.gov\n\nYou can make a difference. Let your voice be heard.", "his case wasn't called , thats why they brought him back out.....", "In America, I believe the people do not have enough checks and balances against authority. We need to take back some authority for the everyday person. We know industry can't self regulate. Why should politicians be any different? \n\nI've been watching a lot of Narcos, both series lately, if you think corruption isn't wide scale in America, you're willfully ignorant, or worse.", "I hope this man stays safe. He's doing the right thing, for all the right reasons, and these people will do anything to maintain their power.", "Th best thing most countries do is allow you to believe that your justice system is better than another random country. Most of them at the end of the day protect rich people and screw your average person especially if you’re a minority.", ">Her husband was a disabled war veteran who had some issues with his legs and could barely walk. They lived on the third floor of an apartment complex which you can imagine wasn't easy for him, and she had just brought home groceries. She parked in front of their building which was a fire lane.\n\n​\n\nPennsylvania police are the scum of the earth, every time I hear about one getting gunned down it puts a smile on my face and i dont even have a criminal record. theyre vermin and scum and deserve everything bad that ever happens to them.", "Man see this is the bullshit. Every time I watch LegalEagle he’s like “oh well a lawyer can’t do that he’d be disbarred” motherfucker yes they can and yes they do. Your rules and laws don’t work if the system doesn’t enforce them. They made him take his complaint to the SAME JUDGE who conspired to throw him in jail. Are you for fucking real???", "Well I appeared opposite probably 18 different pds during my time as a prosecutor, but maybe they all hated me. You’d think my colleagues would’ve mentioned something about it though. Unless all the PDs hates all the DAs! But in that case your point doesn’t hold up anyway.\n\nThe same organization doesn’t pay the DAs and the PDs checks, and success isn’t measured by guilty verdicts. Both those statements are factually incorrect.\n\nI’m not saying there aren’t corrupt people out there but you make a lot of incorrect assumptions here. Might I suggest that since you’re not a lawyer and clearly have a lot of very basic misunderstandings about how this shit works, you might not know what you’re talking about?\n\nIn which case maybe don’t do the Reddit thing where you speak confidently from a position of ignorance.", "I’d honestly take that…. It would help me out so much", "Lovely way the out it. Absolutely spot on", "Remember the affluenza kid? He was too rich to know what He was doing when He killed a family while drunk driving while being underage. No jail time for that rich kid. This is the USA justice system we have today.", "It's not illegal to cross state borders.", "Watch the entire video, and read an article on it.", "This is what corruption looks like, this is the system actively working against you and for the state.", "I like how people below here are pointing out that it's not a race issue but the prison population of the USA shows how it absolutely is. Smh", "Cheers for the detailed answer :D", "I'll wait to hear both sides. I generally don't put blind faith in one side of stories people tell because most have an agenda in my experience. And that is 1000x true for people with pending criminal charges.", "No, both are cults", "File bar complaints against everyone and sue the attorney for malpractice.", "Bail bond companies don’t give court dates though, the court issues formal notice before you leave the courthouse and mail you notice after the fact. Maybe his company got the date wrong and told him the wrong date but he also had the date himself from the court. If he wasn’t sure he could call the court or his lawyer.\n\nThat’s a bullshit excuse tbh makes me not trust the rest of his story even less than I already did.\n\nThe fact that he released this video in connection with a go fund me is also highly sus.", "Yeah as I was watching this video I kept seeing her snicker at them trying to fuck the guy over she is definitely super corrupt and should be removed from her position", "It's all right there in the video. You want to hear everyone making post-hoc excuses for their unprofessional behavior?", "Disbarr these clowns. Fucking garbage lawyers who want to punch a clock and don't give a fuck about their clients.", "Basic rights as free healthcare, yes.", "This! I also wonder if ACLU would jump in here and represent him. This case is very important.", "Wow", "I mean I think you're right. I think they should face consequences congruent with what they did, which is lying in order to make their decisions seem more severe and warranted. Moreso the prosecutor/defense attorney than the judge. I think she probably has plausible deniability... you can't exactly prove that she knew the defendant had entered the court room, which can't be said for the defense attorney and prosecutor. \n\nLiterally all of the people in that room were there for hearings that were meant to start at 9AM, so the judge was probably doing a lot more than just focusing on this one person's case, who she probably couldn't even identify by sight, and who wasn't there until after proceedings had started. \n\nThe video speculates that the bailiff told her when he entered, but I don't see any compelling evidence that this is the case.\n\nSo yeah. I definitely think those that obviously lied about the time he arrived or the amount of times he had been late/no showed in the past should face consequences for those lies.\n\nHowever, them committing a crime doesn't suddenly give the defendant a get out of jail free card.\n\nHe *was* late, as a matter of fact, after having been late in the past and missing previous court dates. I'd almost guarantee that makes it within the judge's rights to order a bench warrant. 9:07, 9:37 or 10:37 makes no difference. He wasn't there when he was supposed to be.", "Stone Ocean IRL?", "Then you have to treat him by yourself in the hospital 🤠", "I personally think all drugs should be legal to manufacture, and sell and own, and used. I personally don't give a single fuck about what other people do with their lives. I do however think that these drugs need to be regulated for purity and taxed.", "I mean the USA objectively has the highest prison population in the world...", "Just another day in the meth capitol of everywhere, Utah.", "There shouldn't be a fee at all. It's a constitutional right. Charging for a public defender is like being charged a poll tax.", "I mean if this man's fight doesn't go anywhere we could always hold a \"peaceful\" protest.", "Hey, I got a similar situation actually. \n\nGot arrested for \"possession of marijuana, less than 1 ounce\", was a 1/8. \n\nExcept I had a public defender, got a felony because my lawyer was late every single hearing, made stupid jokes nobody laughed at, told me the first plea was going to be my best one, and didn't explain what I was actually signing (my fault, I should have made her slow down and tell me, but she was 45 minutes late and the prosecutor and judge was already annoyed so didn't want to keep them waiting).", "Your country is great, its just the people in it that makes it such a cesspool", ".", "The editing is so obvious and distracting that no reasonable person can watch this and accept it as an accurate representation of reality. The video might as well have a background watermark announcing THIS VIDEO IS INTENTIONALLY MISREPRESENTING REALITY AND PS HERE'S MY GOFUNDME PAGE. This defendant is not the persecuted victim he is pretending to be. I have a BiG problem with people who keep me waiting, but even the worst chronically late people I know are not reckless or narcissistic enough to show up late for court! Who in his right mind keeps the judge and prosecutor who have control over his future waiting? *Repeatedly?* The criminal justice system in the US is warped and no one disputes the fact that there are corrupt judges and DAs. But manufacturing or embellishing evidence of corruption is not merely counterproductive--it actually serves to protect and encourage corruption, by causing people to doubt and dismiss future legitimate allegations. It's like women who falsely claim to have been raped or harassed. Perps pretending to be victims are Corruption played in a different key. The poor and powerless can be as bent and destructive as the rich and powerful. Regardless of their demographic group, inviduals without integrity are the greatest threat to all justice systems and governments everywhere.", ">Know that no amount of money they offer will persuade me to give up my determination to seek justice and to evoke change.\n\nTHIS x1000. Never settle a civil rights violation case. This needs to be on the public record and the victims must maintain their ability to speak freely on what happened. \n\nOtherwise a settlement will allow them to gag the victims under an NDA and allow them to claim no guilt or responsibility.", "He’s a public defender they always side with the prosecution", "His defender says he’s late a lot?\n\nProsecutor says he’s late a lot?\n\nVideo tells me he was late once and absent once out of 10 prior court appearances. I have no evidence that he was late more than once and absent more than once besides the video saying so but based on the honesty track record for the court, the video editor(s) are likely telling the truth.\n\n**HOWEVER**\n\nThe fact that he saunters in late by 7 minutes is astounding it me. There is literally nothing more important than a court appearance - besides a personal/family medical emergency - for your criminal case. I’m absolutely astounded that he has the gall to slowly walk in at 9:07 after 10 previous court dates for a criminal case; one where he was late and another where it missed it. Regardless of your innocence or guilt, due process cannot happen if you disrespect the process. “But poor people are paid hourly!” Show up late, miss court dates, get arrested, and lose your job then. Those are your choices regardless of whether or not you think it is fair. He got arrested and spent 2 weeks in jail. \n\nTalk to any good criminal defense attorney: never ever miss your court date (you can reschedule but abuse this and you’ll get an arrest warrant), and absolutely never be late. The courts hand you a paper that says to show up 15-30 minutes early (depending on the court). You walk into the courtroom 15 minutes prior to your scheduled hearing. Not 7 minutes late. Not even right on time. Early. People are coming up before you and after. You’re not more important than they are. You don’t get to disrespect the court and all the other people appeareing before court that day. Of all the appointments in your life, court dates are not things you should be late to. Ever. Being absent for a criminal court appearance usually results in an arrest warrant - the fact that a warrant wasn’t issued for his first absence is not normal (the court was being lenient).\n\nI wonder how much is retaliation for him being late/missing prior (this is illegal and unconstitutional: you have a right to a fair and speedy trial - Sixth Amendment)? From both the prosecutor and defender. The judge just goes along with it because those are her “workplace buddies.” No excuse.", "No it isn’t.", "A better question is how would they *not* get away with it? What systems of oversight and accountability are in place to fix this?", "Damn.. this person needs protecting.. and to have someone become a back up whistleblower to keep all of those files and evidence before they eventually \"suicide\" or \"missing person\" him..", "Did you even watch the video? \nThe issue is that the judge issued the warrant at 8:45 am, 15 minutes before the scheduled time. Isn't that a dead giveaway that the judge already set her mind on arresting the defendant before the scheduled time, before he even had a chance to be tried by his peers? Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?", "Doesn't matter. If the state is sending you the bill, they're not respecting the right.", "> Do you think this would have happened to a pretty blonde white girl?\n\nYeah, some pretty white blonde girls are poor as shit. No one looks at an addict twice.\n\n> You can’t deny that minorities in the US face comparatively far more unfair treatment.\n\nNo one is, and no one has. It's a class problem. It follows the fact that a lot of minorities in the US are lower class due to racial injustice.", "Yeah, you don't just openly talk about your first conspiracy in open court, you only do that after years of not getting caught.", "I'm surprised someone didn't beat that lawyer to death.\n\nCan't say I'd be bothered if they did 🤷", "Well that's a good way to get disbarred", "You're as brainwashed as the chinese or the russians", "Yes, but the problem you're missing is the ENTIRE CHAINS worth of dialogue, where you are now singling out what I'm saying without the context of the chain.\n\n> But many of those problems don't exist on other wealthy countries. The US in an outlier in a lot of negative statistics in that regard.\n\nThat's the context. It was made in reference to someone saying you cannot look at the US as a monolith cuz it's a massive country. \n\n>But frankly - many of those people need to tend to their own damn house first\n\nWas also stated. I think that's a great point, one backed up by your own note of the index.\n\nThe argument being made AGAINST THAT was the US is an outlier in negative stats compared to \"other wealthy countries.\" That was SOUNDLY pushed against by /u/bs_wilson \n\nI was saying \"OH SHIT\" at the obvious Eurocentric viewpoint that the guy getting shit on had... not the fact that there are non-democratic countries in the top 10 richest countries per capita in the world. \n\nYou misunderstood, and decided to note that the US, though a democracy, is \"not a full democracy.\" Why did that distinction need to be made, when the pushback was against that the US was an outlier for bad stats, NOT against the US having issues.", "Lawyers belong in camps, not courtrooms.", "Both of you are right.\n\nI don’t understand why people have to be 100% this or that. Everything doesn’t have to be exactly binary.\n\nHe was late and absent. \n\nThe court personnel are pieces of shit.", "> may be able to prove that what happened to me is not an isolated event.\n\nThe brazen openness and humour involved on their part shows this is a common occurance for them, hopefully that also means there may be more evidence of them doing similar misdeeds", "Well it's now front page on reddit with a GoFundMe, so there's a good chance things could change", "You know why it wouldn't have mattered? Because the judge fucking issued the warrant at 8:45 am. \n\nNot to mention this is not even the point. Just because the system is corrupt doesn't mean you have to take extra precautions to protect yourself from it. If his case wasn't called by the time he arrived at 9:07 am, why should it fucking matter in the first place?", "I never stated that there is a place with more than a nominal fee. I'm just saying that the nominal fee shouldn't be allowed.", "Someone ELI5, why in 2021, courts all have to have this asshole type of a environment. Judge always talkin down to grown ass men and women like you talk to children, all these formalities and shit.\n\nWe could literally make this change rn if we wanted. We dont have to do it this way just because old white plantation owners used to do it that way", "Normal. They're called public pretenders for a reason.", "Is it OK for a judge to *lie in court*? She issued the bench warrant at approximately 8:45am and then said later that she had issued it after 9:00. That is a blatant lie told by a judge.", "> even if you have a completely clean record (I have never been to court before, never in trouble)\n\nTechnically not a clean record is it—if you’ve had tickets in the past?", "Ding ding!\n\nRight to a fair and speedy trial (Sixth) also means you show your ass up to court, speedily, if you want to keep those rights. But your lawyer being late? I feel sorry for the defendant.", "That’s a lawyer that needs to be disbarred.", "No wonder people believe in conspiracies. I would not have believed this if not for the video recording. Yes end is near.", "How did he get his hands on this footage?", "The judge said outright that the bench warrant was issued *after* 9:00am when she in fact issued it at about 8:45am.", "He can appeal the verdict and claim he was under duress. It's actually a pretty easy case for him to appeal and retry.", "Under 21 the limit is zero. mouthwash would get you a DUI.", "In many parts of the world this sort of stuff don’t happen so frequently or at all.", "I don't know. But I do know that any time someone suggest such a thing on Reddit, people come out of the woodwork to tell us how this isn't the answer. \n\n\nThen, a few days go by if we're lucky, before the next fucked up story about a cop killing someone, planting evidence or making up things about what the citizen did or said during their interaction to justify an arrest that has a high potential to ruin that citizen's life. \n\n\nJust being in jail for a day or two while they drag their feet on purpose, can easily cost you your job. They know this and use it to their advantage. \n\n\nAt some point, we have to admit that engaging in the political process hasn't worked. It might not be time for vigilantism quite yet, but it is definitely time for whatever the next level before that is.", "It's time to publicly stone crooked politicians.", "Lawyers hoping to jump into a profitable judgeship is the best take on our current sorry system.", "lol all that drama and suffering for something that shouldn't even be a crime.", "I’ve seen many times that the court systems are all buddy buddy with each other since they work together. I’ve seen public defenders who are friends with prosecutors and I don’t really like that.", "Why the no drugs? As long as they aren't dangerous drugs, what could be the harm?", "So apparently you've never heard of the Sixth Amendment. Please allow me to enlighten you on yours and Mr. Sanchez's guaranteed rights at a federal level, as written by the Founding Fathers, and as has been precedent since the dawn of our nation:\n\n*In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.*\n\nIt literally does not matter what he did, or what you or I think he did or didn't do. He has a right, just like you and me, to a fair trial and a defense that will represent his interests.\n\nThe defense attorney, prosecutor, and judge conspired against him. Plain and simple, clear cut, transparent corruption and a complete disregard for the Constitution of the United States. That's not just mistrial territory, it's blatantly illegal. A defense attorney and prosecutor, in no state, can ever conspire toward anything against a defendant. For a judge to also partake (gleefully laughing at it while doing so) makes this even worse. The three consciously knew exactly what they were doing - these three know exactly what the Sixth Amendment says, they know exactly their limitations, they knew what territory they were stepping into, and they did it anyway.\n\nAlso, it's hypocritical to state he's in the wrong for being a few minutes late, but it's okay for them to issue a warrant for being late before he was ever late in the first place. If he's held to time standards, they must also be held to those same standards for the courts to be considered fair.", "I'd like to hear what they have to say. Unlike you I'm not going to prejudge what they have to say. I have an open mind. And I'd really like to have some data:\n\n1. how many hearings have there been in his criminal case; and\n2. how many did he show up late; and\n3. how many did he not show up at all.\n4. did the Judge issue warnings to him on other occasions about tardiness or failure to appear? if so, what do the transcripts reveal about what the judge said and what he said to the judge on those occasions?\n5. and what is his history with the court system prior to these charges? was he experienced in dealing with the court? did he have problems with tardiness and failure to appear in other cases?\n\nOnly when I have all of that information - will I be ready to make a conclusion. And, I'd suggest to you and others, that I could very easily make a case that certain answers to my questions above would make YOU and everyone else definitely conclude that this guy is a jerk and a manipulator. Or it could show he is 100% innocent and being victimized. \n\nAnd without knowing which is the reality, I'm not ready to make a judgment.", "Edge lord comment. The system works, but the system is staffed by people. They’re not always the right people.", "How do officers prove you were speeding? What’s to keep me from going to court and just saying, no I wasn’t. What proof do they have of it.", "Holy shit is this a JoJo reference???", "This is organized crime by the court", "This is seriously fucked. The laughter and smiles among people trusted to carry out justice…..\nThis should carry a penalty of life in prison. Someone willing to abuse this power should never be allowed to walk free.", "Oh man if only I had a million dollars to release a mass murderer \n\nBillionaires: it's free real estate!", "I bet this judge describes herself as \"tough on crime\".", "they do it because it's easier to plead guilty than to defend.", "Revenge? Not sure where that came from. People that continually show they cannot safely handle the *privilege* of driving should not be driving. Also, if you get too old, you can't drive. Eye site too bad? Can't drive. Seizures? Can't drive. They should prove they are no longer an imminent threat to society before driving again. Treating their disease is a separate matter.", "Did you get the news involved because that is when you get the news involved.", "The faster they run through their docket the sooner they can get home", "You mean it will cost the taxpayers. This is why there’s no incentive to change. If it came out of their personal salaries and pensions, maybe.", "This was my thought, as well. There's some scummy behavior here. Who wants a defense attorney who schemes against you? With an attorney like that, who needs a prosecution, right? But...they were right. He was late. Not as egregiously as it ended up being, but courts are already swamped with cases. 7 minutes is a lot when bunches of cases need to be seen that day. Maybe it was just entirely malicious, or maybe the lawyer is tired of covering for someone who doesn't seem to care enough to be at his 9 AM hearing at 9 AM.", "Thank you for bringing some clarity to this.", "Why are court employees seeing people as scum, and lawyers and cops etc as good people?\n\nWhat about innocent until proven guilty? Lmao", "You’re pushing your world view right now in this thread. “Americans are dangerous and binary with shitty healthcare.” That’s why I think that, so yes you do in fact do that. Step 1 to growth, look in the mirror and honestly question if your self-perception is accurate.\n\nAs for the position you describe, I don’t think that is uniquely American at all. It also isn’t a position I was advocating for or representing.\n\nI do agree with you that being unable to have a conversation without getting personal is a huge problem. I believe it’s one created by the media and academia.", "So he was late. Get there early. The court was full at 8:40 for 9 start.\n\nStill, these guys are assholes.", "Who knew that 6 months of training doesn't work out so well", "Cant tell if meta or serious", "The fact that he couldn't enter until 9/905 is not really relevant here because his attorney represents him and could enter prior. The blame here is on the defense attorney bc he jumped the gun and assumed his client wasn't going to be on time because he wasn't there early, and basically asked for the case to be called. The judge is going off what is represented to her by the defense. In her eyes, the case was called, she was told the D wasn't coming/going to be late, so she issued the warrant. The attorney should have fought for his client rather than throwing him under the bus so he can leave. \n\nThat said, he's prob a public defender who has a billion cases and can't wait for every client to show up. He prob told him be there 830 or whatever, then when he wasn't figured this guy is always late I have other appearances, let me wrap this up. Not an excuse, but a product of the shit system.", "Nice women in power", "The last time this was posted it was full of people calling out how wrong this is and just a scam for him to make kickstarter money", "I have a sneaking suspicion you might be somewhat biased in this specific discussion, The_True_Black_Jesus.", "You make a lot more money as an equity partner 🤷‍♂️", "None of that is relevant. Doesn't matter if he was late 100 times in the past, he wasn't late here and they obviously lied and conspired against him. Stop with the subtle bootlicking and WATCH THE VIDEO.", "Don't tell my Father", "How many of these people claim to be \"Christian\" and go off to ruin people's life, seem to be for the fun of it? How many of them are Mormons? A judge perjured in a courtroom! The only motive I see is them being all racists.", "She's a woman working in law. Can't ask for better protection", "Public Defender…”my client is guilty and I can prove it”.", "That's irrelevant. If it's supposed to be free, it's supposed to be free. The whole idea of public defenders is that you can't afford an attorney, so one is provided you by the state. Attaching a bill (even one that can be waived) to that goes against the intended meaning of the law.", "The logical conclusion of your argument is a punishment that ensures that drunk drivers do not continue to do so. It doesn't necessarily have to be the death penalty, but it likely needs to be similarly barbaric.", "He can be the absolute scum of the earth.\n\nHis own defense lawyer shouldn't be conspiring against his own client, and be in cohorts with the prosecution, and judge shouldnt be participating in their defense or prosecution strategies.\n\nBoth things can be true.", "Nobody is immune except the queen", "You mean any of us?", "The people that punish these crimes are also judges and lawyers. Pretty strong incentive to keep the penalties minor incase their shadiness ever gets caught.", "The American JustUs system.", "Yo fuck these people. Laughing about carrying out this malicious travesty of justice. They are the criminals here. Mr. Sanchez should go to law school, I think he'd make a better attorney/judge than any of these fucking scum.", "i really hope that all of those involved are striped of their jobs and thrown in jail them selfs for this,", "It's not an argument. It's an insult being met with another insult lol.", "?\n\nI'm not the one who resorts to attempting to attack someone's personality after taking offence at a joke", "I don't think this one is quite that easy. What evidence do you have from the video alone - NOT THE WORDS ADDED TO THE SCREEN THAT YOU CAN'T VERIFY IF THEY ARE CORRECT - that give you such confidence about imprisoning the defense, judge, and/or prosecutor?", "I'm not saying he was still drunk for sure, just that it's possible. Surely they did a breath or blood test? How can they prosecute without it?", "That's absurd, but good to know", "Sorry. Didn’t think a /s was needed. \n\nReddit is a great source of information, most of it is suspect at best.", "It would be impossible to expect these people who work together regularly not to develop professional working relationships, but what's happening here isn't an example of that. This is a number of people conspiring to abuse the legal system out of what appears to be spite and base inhumanity.", "It happens extremely often on Reddit. I swear most of my disagreements are calling people out for logical fallacies, the most common by far being ad hominem I'd imagine.", "That room is hers. Defense and prosecution can ask for anything, no matter how outrageous. It's her job to put them in line. Watching this, all laughing like they are out for late night drinks & porterhouse steaks is highly unethical. And they were all shameless. 100% on her. And the comfort level in which this all happened says one thing...this is not their first time. Far from it. She simply took them at their word. That's called a kangaroo court. \n\n>A kangaroo court may ignore due process and come to a predetermined conclusion. \n\n\n>A kangaroo court could also develop when the structure and operation of the forum result in an inferior brand of adjudication. A common example of this is when institutional disputants (\"repeat players\") have excessive and unfair structural advantages over individual disputants (\"one-shot players\").[5]\n\nI worked for a lawyer. You can trust many lawyers and prosecutors are pretty damn happy to be in front of her. Elated in fact, so they can take advantage of her style of ruling. \n\n*format", "All these people involved need to be arrested, strip searched, humiliated and locked in solitary confinement to be tortured like the thousands of innocent people it happens to every year. These people are criminals at their core and should be nowhere near the justice system. My blood boils beyond belief because I have had a very similar situation happened to me with a court appointed attorney that literally did nothing for me and convinced me to plead guilty to a crime I did not commit. I was robbed by a rural police force which took everything I owned and then charged with a crime I did not commit and was unable to afford an attorney to get any of my stuff back. They physically and mentally broke me to a point where it was not a choice to plead guilty, it was the only way out. They made it very clear if I did not plead guilty that I would go to prison for a crime I did not commit. These people are worse than animals.", "That's why resisting arrest should be legal if you can prove it's an unjust arrest. Resisting a kidnapping is a good thing, and cops thinking twice about whether an order is legal and they could be on the receiving end of justified/legal violence would improve law enforcement incredibly.", "It's not even an insult, it's a pathetic attempt at kink shaming. If the guy discusses it publicly, I'd imagine he's not ashamed of it, so it's a really stupid attempt at an insult...", "\"That's not a mistake, it's a choice.\"\n\nOr alcoholism, which is a disease.", "Tickets don't show up on your record. If you did a background check on me you wouldn't see them. Only people that can see them are cops and dmv, court etc. My tickets (2 prior) were in my early 20s while traveling across states to and from college over 10 years ago which are long off my \"record\". So to the cop that pulled me over, yes I did have a clean record because he wouldn't have even known about them.", "Except when there’s a video. Then they do/say what they want.", "Horrible, liars.", ">Nobody cares about your anecdotal experience with drunk drivers. Policy should be created based on facts, academic study, and desired results, not the tiny bubble in which you live.\n\nI think I love you.", "In batch courtrooms like they all cases are scheduled for 9 as the defendant explains in a video on the channel linked above", ">Why would so many people risk their careers \\[...\\]\n\nThey wouldn't.\n\nThere is normally zero risk to them for shit like this.", "It's just ... \"bingo.\"", "Judges are more worried about violent offenders, while being monitored and contained, hurting guards and other convicts in prison - then they are about violent offenders being released and hurting others on the outside? \n\n\nThis isn't a coherent line of thinking friend", "There are many more parts to profit than money. Lawyers that focus on money would never see the value of a judgeship.", "Jails too good for her, bring in the guillotine.", "Seemed to upset you pretty bad.", "Lmao, the fact you have to compare us to North Korea is telling. Like yeah. At least we aren't fucking North Korea, good job dude.", "Wtf do they even gain? A case off their load? If his defender had just ran things properly this case would have been over years sgo", "Oh man, that's terrible. I didn't realize you could get the charges changed for a shitty defender?? In my state that amount of weed is a little bitty misdemeanor if that.", "Lawyer here. Totally dirty but technically he was late and where I’m from if you do that too often you’re getting your bond revoked. And the case history for this dude is insane. Multiple lawyers, missed hearings, showing up late. \n\nNot saying it justifies the court’s and lawyers’ actions but he’s not innocent either.", "ALAB", "I takes an open mind to conceptualize the idea of shopping around for what is currently provided by a gov’t monopoly. Clearly the services are in demand, just have to imagine there being more than one option available. \n\nMechanically things would probably look very similar to the status quo.\n\nI’d imagine it would be victims or their respective insurance agencies driving most dispute resolutions whether to recover stolen property or reparations for damages or injuries. \n\nYou assume a criminal has a choice of arbitration after the fact? What if voluntarily subscribing to a dispute resolution service was a prerequisite to employment or housing. Even criminals gotta eat, sleep, and generally participate in society elsewhere which hard to do if it’s know you have a bunch of open disputes.", "Judge and attorney deserve death penalty with the date set for next week, no appeals.", "The Judge says she did not sign the warrant until after 9:00. He admits he didn't arrive until after that.\n\nHe claims to be a victim of some conspiracy against him. I want to know the history. Many people in his situation are liars and expert manipulators - always blaming the system for their own failures. I'd like to know if that is his history too before I am prepared to get on some band wagon to support him and condemn public defenders without hearing what they have to say.", "Not being rood, but a form of privilege. \n\nPro tip: Be careful of whom you ask for lessons in privilege.", "Okay, what is it you mean when you say “profit” because I heard money.", "I'm a criminal defence lawyer.\n\nI don't know what the actual truth of the matter here is, but I tend to side with the lawyers on this one.\n\nFuck up clients always try to blame their lawyer for their fuck ups.\n\nThe video makes several claims in the portions of text written over this video, but there's nothing they show to back up their interpretation of what's going on. Important information is missing all throughout this.\n\nI don't trust the producer of the video to have properly investigated this event, nor do I trust the producer of the video to present an unbiased view of the situation.\n\nThis is total garbage.\n\n*Edit* Towards the end, the video claims \"His constant demand for a trial and his refusal to pleading [sic] guilty angered his attorneys.\"\n\nThis is total horseshit. Complete and utter horseshit. If your client doesn't want to plead guilty even when you tell him he needs to plead guilty, you don't get mad, you just set the case for trial. It's a complete fabrication.\n\nI've seen it many times. This is typical normal behaviour from a client who is trying to avoid responsibility for his actions, something that happens a lot in criminal court, as I'm sure you can imagine.", "Is this guy a public defender? I’d be extra pissed if I paid thousands for this lawyer.", "You can never be sure if a person is /s or not /s", "sure. we'll see how you make it past summary judgment. \"Failure to state a claim upon which relief may be granted\" much less the fact that my so-called \"threats\" to take actions I have a legal right to take is actionless under federal law. But you go ahead and do your best! It can be your class project.", "I'm sure being Latino in a group of white people has nothing to do with this travesty.\n\nUSA justice is a joke.", "Yes, and his DUI court date was 3 years after the incident. Just because the article is one year old doesn’t mean nothing happened. \n\nMore than often, court cases usually take a long time to see through.", "If a judge and lawyer collude, that is a crime - at the very least its obstruction of justice. My spouse is a lawyer in Canada but I would assume the laws are similar in the US. Ideally they would be disbarred and then prosecuted", "the fucking bailiff is giggling in some of those shots", "Sorry, I don't feel too sorry for ANYONE getting a DUI. He's lucky he didn't kill people.", "A courtroom full of Karens.", "My wife went through a similar scenario 20 years ago, roughly. Long story short, her public defender didn't want her to fight the charges, and literally told her \"You're going to plead guilty. I'm not doing any work on this. Do you want to go to prison?\" (She'd never had more than a speeding ticket. She literally wouldn't have gone to prison.) \n\n\nPublic pretenders are not there to help you. They're there to keep the machine moving.", "What is \"nominal\" to a wage worker who loses their job, sits for several months in a jail cell, and has to accept the assistance of the state to defend themselves?\n\nYou're free to Google it. In addition to the \"nominal\" fee (which is incredibly dismissive of the financial trench that may people are in, where even a $50 fee can be temporarily crippling even without the addition of jail time/lost wages while awaiting trial) states may require the defendant to pay for attorney fees if they A) take a plea deal or B) are found guilty.", "Lucky? He went to jail for two weeks, then was forced to plead guilty because he had no money left from missing work and bail fucking him over. Get got fucked.", "What do you mean by the front falling off?", "This is the system we have. There is no justice. Just multitudes of people in cages with dim futures. Our country is evil and rotten to the core and nothing will fix it except balkenization. We are getting really close to that eventuality in my opinion.", "No - legitimately none of that matters. \n\n\nThe only things that matter are: \n1) He was late and missed previous appearances, and was told he would be arrested if he came late to the next one. \n\n\n2) He came late to the next one \n\n\nIs it harsh? Sure. But if you are explicitly told you are going to be arrested if you come late - then come late - and act like there is some conspiracy against you because you get arrested? That shows a complete lack of personal responsibility. \n\n\nAs for the false claims about when he arrived - keep in mind there's no timestamp on the video. Is it possible the lawyers lied? Sure - but incredibly unlikely. Why? \n\n\nBecause they would be opening themselves up to serious personal consequences for intentionally lying in a courtroom - which they know is on video. With no apparent personal motive, especially given that if he did come at 9:07 as he claimed the warrant is still valid.", "Would depend on how pissed you are about the whole thing\n\n\nI’d be way too angry that they did what they did to this guy if they did it to me. Would most likely go after them if I had this video, it’s pretty damning.", "These people better hope there's not a hell.", "what she said at 8:45 is inconsequential. they just do that to have the paperwork ready for the close of the docket so they dont have to revisit this and they can move on. His name still has to be called on or after the scheduled time and \"uttered 3 x from the courthouse steps\" or whatever the applicable Utah law is for that stuff (they have to say it 3x here). The only issue with time that matters is he was NOT there at 9:00 and he had not been there at 9:00 before. This issue has nothing to do with his \"innocence until proven guilty\" and is now a new case of contempt of court.", "I don't know how I'd prove that. You can see his attorney screw him over 15 minutes before court even starts, though. That's a bit more of a concern than whether or not he was on time in my opinion. I think you're missing the whole point.", "Fair enough, but it's all relative of course. They might be Icelandic and had one police killing in the last 50 years or some shit.", "Welcome to WHITE AMERICA where justice is reserved for white people. Everyone else can get fucked.", "Yeah, still ambiguous, I think it was more ambiguous originally.", "You're not saying our legal system is a wee bit corrupt, are you?", "That's why I said it can fuck up and be corrupt, I'm not naive.", "Good ol American legal system, freedom to get fucked", "Wish you weren't being downvoted because I really do agree with you.", "When you are out on bail you aren't supposed to commit more crimes. \n\nthe consumption of the drug is considered a crime.", "This is hard. I really understand both sides but citizens should not resist arrest. The cops may have bad information, a false accusation or just mistaken identity. All of this can be sorted out later. I am NOT a fan of police in any way, but physically resisting arrest is rarely a good idea, even when the cop is wrong.", "But this is now a pretty clear case, no? The recordings of the courtroom are public showing that the court is unable to perform their duties on the fact that they cant even correctly tell the time (if you’d assume the unlikely event no foul play occurred ).\n\nAlso in my opinion, malfunctioning cameras and deleted footage from hearings should automatically dismiss the charges. Before all these methods of providing proof the word of the officer who swore an oath wouldve been the leading factor but nowadays you dont need that anymore if cameras are present. I think video footage should be a requirement for any charges to go through provided that video footage would have reasonably been able to capture the offense. This would force law enforcement to better take care of camera systems and think of redundancies and it’d take away the undeniable corruption from some part of the police force.", "The problem is when the judge backs up the cop. Woe betide the defendant who makes the claim the officer is lying.", "Found the next small town conservatard", "Fucking typical, trust me I’ve been there. Those fuckers all know each other and don’t give a rats ass about carrying out the law justly. They always think they can get away with it, criminals", "True, but there's plenty of true crime episodes devoted to the \"one that got away\" because of a good lawyer....", "Just like all those conservatives who tried to deny Kyle Rittenhouse his rights? Stop with the tribalism bullshit and just accept that shitty people exist on all sides.", "Yeah we should totally go around cutting out people's tongues.\n\nWhat the fuck, man?", "They always hit you with the highest charge they can and at the time it was a discretion to charge it as a felony or misdemeanor, they went felony and if my defense was half worth a shit I would have gotten diversion (drug treatment program, ha) and dropped on completion like most people I know got. \n\nThese days I can carry a quarter lb of weed and no problem, hell I can grow lbs of weed and not worry about anything. I am lucky enough that AZ is removing all weed charges with the legalization. But for 20 years I was working shit jobs, living in the ghetto, unable to do much of anything that requires a background check. It was hell.", "I don’t care what he did. Our system is fucking broken. We need due process for things to be fair. Defense lawyers are there for a reason.", "Yep, exactly like him. And every other clone of him that gets away with it.", "See here: https://www.npr.org/2014/05/19/312455680/state-by-state-court-fees\n\nI don't care if you have a million dollars or nothing to your name. The right to an attorney should have no caveats. Paying for private representation is a privilege, the alternative is something our Constitution guarantees. The idea that it comes with a cost is a perversion of justice.\n\nThe Constitution also guarantees free speech, but I suspect you would disagree with a \"nominal\" fee owed per government-chosen phrase?", "Its Utah, literally nothing will be done about it.", "I hate the things this makes me feel.", "He'd get far more if this went to a jury. This is blatant abuse of power and miscarriage of justice. He could sweep it under the rug and take the 45k or blow it up in court and have their jobs. The act they carried out is shameful and disgusting. And they thought nothing of it, carried on and laughed about it. This isn't the first time they've done this. Every case that's been through there should be reviewed.", "\"It was 9:07 a.m. by the time he got through the long security line and into the West Jordan courtroom that was overflowing with other defendants and attorneys waiting for their cases to be called.\" They weren't wrong though about him always being late. Come the fuck on and be an adult and show up to your court hearing fucking EARLY. Or hell on time. Look, what these two did is wrong, and he deserves to sue and win, but the dude can't even be bothered to show up on time I have litte respect for that.", "How do you know it's because of bad legal representation?? Because the person who made this video said so? I think all videos posted on reddit should be met with a bit of skepticism.", "Oh I forgot, if you can’t go to the hospital for free you have no basic rights", "but if you get rid of bail and bonds you don't have the important barrier that forces 80% of non-flight risks to waste money or else be wrongfully imprisoned and still allows the very rich to remain above the consequences of their actions until the last possible moments.", "I'll have to ask him if he got a blood test or even requested one. He doesn't like to talk about it much so I've avoided asking him questions for the most part, but from my understanding of the situation as someone who was there with him up until he fell asleep, it seemed like a bullshit DUI to me. He did the responsible thing of staying and sleeping it off, and still got fucked over.", "Start with a white kid and start teaching him young (Fox News, Trump speeches, Karen's Facebook page.. Hopefully make them good at sports so they can get a scholarship. If they are the captain of something it's even easier to get off scot free. If they're not sporty encourage them to join law enforcement", "But why?? Still don’t get it…", "> Is that kind of altruism really so strange to you? That's sad.\n\nYeah because not everyone lets their friends treat them like a doormat. The drug charges alone could had landed the other guy 2 years in jail while the friend got away scot free, then had the nerve to steal his car? Fuck that.", "Despicable! Travesty of justice for sure, I hope this video goes viral.", "This is just the plot of Stone Ocean", "The prosecutor, the judge, the bailiff, and the worlds least employed defense attorneys all deserve to meet a firing squad facing the rising sun", "It's obviously a funny joke! Nothing like fucking a guy over and putting a huge bail on him.", "It astounds me how many Americans are worried about our freedoms while we're over here living the good life and not dying.", "Of course he wasn't drunk, it was all a conspiracy.\n\nGive me a break.", "\nYou're just an angry, sexist, small little man slinging threats at a student on the internet. Not the first pitiful ego screaming into the void, and surely not the last. Embarrassing none the less.", "Trust me, this is just a scratch on the surface", "The justice department is corrupt and incompetent. Who knew?", "It's her room, sure. But the lawyers also have an ethical and professional duty to speak up when a fraud is being perpetrated on the court, even if it is perpetrated by the judge herself. Even if the lawyers were not participating (they were obviously, just speaking hypothetically), they should've have spoken out on the record against what was happening. \n\nI've been a lawyer for 15 years and that video shows some of the most egregious breach of duties I've ever seen. By everyone involved.", "I've been clear enough. Receiving compensation after being screwed is not a good system.\n\nYou can find sources all over this thread, go read them and make up your own mind.", "Such pieces is shit", "I was with you until you started advocating for cutting tongues out", "You honestly think the police would delete body and dashcam footage that proved them right?", "Fuck off you racist piece of shit.", "yea if they actually did their job the right way they might have actually gotten him with their scummy practices. fuck them anyways hope Mr. Sanchez exposes this whole court wherever else it might be happening.", "I meant *legally* I think it is probably enough to warrant arrest, though I guess I wasn't clear. Which matters a lot for the lawsuit. I think it personally sucks in general. Though there's a lot we don't know, or at least I don't.\n\nIANAL but as far as I understand if you aren't present when your case is called, the judge can issue a bench warrant for failure to appear, period. If it was before scheduled time, that's one thing. If it was literally 0 minutes late, and you're not there - that's a problem. Whether it's the first time, or etc.\n\nJudge can decide not to for a bunch of reasons - if it WAS the first time, if it really was just a few minutes but you did appear, if they have a really valid excuse, etc. But that's judge's call. I think. I mean, you need to really make sure you're there on time, in general. The court really really doesn't like \n\nMy personal feelings?\n\nIf it's his first time and he was 7 minutes late? Yeah, I think that's BS. If it's someone's 50th time and this was a \"last straw\" with lots of warnings? I'm not sure it'd be out of line. I mean, there has to be some kind of realistic limit, right? So the circumstances matter, and I don't know what they were. The SLT article made me think that at least maybe this WAS his 3rd or more time, so I dunno.\n\nBut yeah, I don't know all the circumstances and just going off what I've read, which is mostly stuff that lines up with this video, but some that isn't in there. I don't 100% fault the judge for issuing a warrant the second he was late. Seems like overkill to me, but if she did believe it was the latest in a pattern of behavior, I can see it. \n\nWhat seems like really *clearly* sucks is how, yeah, she obviously was chiding him based on the idea that he was there an hour and a half late (I'd believe she didn't realize he was there until they were told, then people were acting like he just showed up). Then she didn't reconsider when she found out he was there at least an hour before she thought (when prosecutor said 9:38). Then the PD didn't say anything at all when he mentioned he spoke to her at 9:15. Etc. I think there's a good chance the judge wouldn't have executed the warrant if she realized he was there ONLY a few minutes late, but by that point it HAD been executed.\n\nOh, AND the guy's personal PD throwing him under the bus because he appeared to be fed up. That sucks too. I mean, there might be real reasons to be fed up, but you're the guy's lawyer, that's absolutely not in your client's best interest even if you have a personal problem with him. That's the biggest one.\n\nEdit: Oh yeah, plus that clerk's fucking grin the whole time and the whole unprofessionalness of everyone's attitudes suck. They're just dealing with another \"perp\" who they're not really treating like a full human. Just a child who's misbehaving. They probably get a lot of shitty people doing shitty things and straight up lying to them about things, day in and day out. He might even be the rare exception, who knows. But that's still no excuse.", ">The U.S. Supreme Court has made clear that when judges perform judicial acts within their jurisdiction, they are absolutely immune from money damages lawsuits.\n\nhttps://law.jrank.org/pages/7883/Judicial-Immunity-SHOULD-JUDGES-HAVE-ABSOLUTE-OR-QUALIFIED-IMMUNITY.html#:~:text=The%20U.S.%20Supreme%20Court%20has,do%20not%20have%20absolute%20IMMUNITY.", ">Without bail almost everyone would have to stay in jail rather than be released.\n\nJailing people is also supposed to be about addressing potential flight risks, which are less than 20% of people and in some instances far less, like 12% or less. So it essentially says that even though 4/5 of people aren't a flight risk we are going to financially punish them and create economic barriers before officially finding them guilty of a crime. Just because. \n\n\nSomething something, Benjamin Franklin, better 100 guilty free than 1 innocent suffer, etc etc.", "Well pointed out. Where I live we just put major restrictions on cash bail, and of course the law enforcement crowd came out IN FORCE against it. Never ceases to amaze me how things that will actually move us closer to a just system are usually opposed by law enforcement—things that will improve the public’s trust—right along with things like gun control that will keep cops from getting shot at as much. 🤷🏼‍♂️", "Unless the lawyer knew about an imminent violent crime this is an ethics violation, he violated his fiduciary duty to his client and the man should file a grievance with the state bar", "Holy fuck just watched making a murderer and OMG the level of corruption goes from a lowly dumbass state trooper to the Supreme Court. EVERYTHING IS BULLSHIT AND LIES.", "Lack of accountability stemming from lack of (economic) punishment for poor behavior. If your mechanic does a poor job an individual has immediate recourse to shop elsewhere. If you judge does a poor job an individual has no recourse.\n\nIt's the same reason cable companies suck. They have regional monopolies (gov't granted monopolies btw) and have is no incentive to improve their behavior.", "Do you seriously believe that 3 lawyers and a judge are going to falsify court records while in a live courtroom where they know they're being audio and video recorded?\n\nThe video producer is as much a liar as anyone on this video. This thing is literally worthless as far as exposing the truth of the matter.\n\nI don't know what happened here, but I guarantee you it didn't go down the way this video wants you to think it did.", "Could do it uk style, our bail has no money attached but various levels of threat from \"behave or go to jail with extra charges\" all the way to ankle bracelet and no leaving your home along with answering random land-line calls.\n\nIt's not always effective, you can get bail for the charge of breach of bail, but it's generally a good incentive to show good behaviour during a trail.", "Anyone held for bail should be compensated with a wage for tome served.\n\nInnocent UNTIL PROVEN.\n\nThat means you can't hold them on the assumption they isn't flee without meaningful compensation.\n\nOtherwise you are violating their right to due process.\n\nThe problem is whenever these issues come up the judges just conspire to change the law and maintain their corrupted power", ">Any of those fees actually required if you actually cannot afford it?\n\nAnd who is the arbiter of what \"affords\" constitutes? A homeless man can find a five dollar bill and afford food for a day. Does that mean he's okay? Several of these states also charge *inmates* for room and board, utilities, and other aspects. Are you really defending this system?\n\nWhy is affordability some unique delineation for who gets their Constitutional right *sans* caveat for just one aspect of the 6th Amendment, and none other?\n\nLet me ask it more directly: do you think the first amendment should have a cost associated with it for people who \"can afford\" to pay for free speech? Should I have to pay my \"no quartering soldiers\" fee since I have a job?\n\nWhen the government forces its will on you, removes your freedoms, denies you the ability to be employed, and whisks you away to a containment facility... in what way do they have any right to charge you for these things?\n\nDamages? Sure. Restitution? Fine. But it's right there in the Constitution - guaranteed the right to legal counsel.", "back in the days when I actually gave a shit about stuff like that you might have influenced me. I couldnt care less anymore so you have fun!", "Things like this make me not want to live in this country anymore.", "Isn't it usually the possession of the drug that's the crime unless driving ect?\n\nAs in you can't take drugs without first possessing them so taking them is evidence of a crime.", "America is corrupt to the core. Absolutely vile.", "There's literally not. The only place I think I could describe as a camp is Howard Springs in Darwin. It's literally for quarantine when people arrive from overseas and was set up as a nice alternative to hotel quarantine. Fresh air, sporting facilities, etc. Anyone with covid can quarantine at home with support from the local health department.", "LOL@USA\nYou won’t DO ANYTHING about either.", "Lmao what you’re watching is corruption coming to light. Atleast that happens in the us. Russia you get imprisoned or killed. China is the same thing. They’re literally committing genocide and harvesting organs. You fucking idiot. The fuck is wrong with you? You’re the brainwashed one.", "Private, public, non-profit, for-profit...Humans act in response to incentives regardless of how you label the activity.", "it's called arbitration and it's already a thing outside of criminal cases.\n\nIt doesn't really seem to fix any of this and comes with a host of it's own problems. I also don't see anything like that working in criminal cases.", "I'm making a hypothetical statement in an imaginary future where the right to resist is enshrined. It shouldn't be on us to be understanding that cops could be working on bad information. If it's legal and expected to resist an unjust arrest, cops would do better quality assurance on their own actions, and ask themselves if it's bad info or mistaken identity.", "I’ve said it once, I’ve said it again. Low level corruption should carry a death penalty, these vampires prey on the working classes, staying in office due to back room deals and blowjobs. In the rest of the world, government corruption (when punished) is usually executable.", "I'm a criminal defence lawyer. I make a living attacking cops in court.\n\nWhat were the breathalyzer readings?", "I was taken out of jury selection for this exact thing. They said I couldn't \"follow the law\". Had the prosecutor talk down to me. Had to stand up and explain that I would not convict a DUI with only a cop's word.", "oh look ... more trolls!! It's like that \"Wheel of Time\" show on Amazon. exciting.", "From the news and blogs posted here, apparently they didn't take a breathalyzer.", "Every single one of these videos posted on reddit needs to be met with extreme skepticism. It's like people can't realize that when someone takes certain parts of a video, adds a narrative and uploads it to the internet their goal is to push a narrative or get up votes, and perceived injustice is what they are shooting for. \n\nIt's like another video on the front page right now where certain parts are edited out. It could have been shown in the video but instead it was left out and filled in with narration. People also like to weigh in when they have no earthly idea how the system works. I think after the Rittenhouse case, everyone should just relax and maybe realize they don't actually know how things work and maybe should refrain from weighing in and yelling \"injustice.\" But this is the shithole of reddit so that's too much to ask.", "I’m willing to accept this, and I thought the same thing. But even if that were true, his defense attorney basically stood up and said ‘yeah he’s missed a bunch, probably can’t be relied on in the future.’ I mean, as far as I’m concerned, that’s enough for a disbarment. You can’t just throw your client to the wolves because they piss you off. He is plain old not acting in the best interest of his client.", "This is SERIOUS grounds for disbarment if not criminal activity", "i figured he was supposed to be there at 9:00...but arrived at 9:07....", "Lmfao, you’re too far gone", "Because “AmazonTM Justice System Pro, now for only 10 dollars/month! You get a free “get out of jail” card if you SIGN UP NOW” would definitely be a better option. Capitalism only work (as per the goddamn creator of it, Adam Smith) in small, well-defined markets with strict rules. Justice system is one of the pillars of democracy. It should be as far from capitalism as it can.\n\nAs for why is the US’s justice system this shitty, I frankly don’t know. We should always look out for corruption, so it is maybe that? It seems to work well in most EU countries.", "at 4:30 in the video, Sanchez got up to let a pregnant woman who was waiting have his seat. Stand-up guy, literally. he didn't deserve any of this", "It’s kinda fishy that there’s no timecode stamped on the footage and then it just flashes up briefly at “9:17am” in support of the narrative text and disappears again (edited). How do we know what the time was? Why not have the timecode stamped throughout?", "In most \"good countries\" the judicial system is separate from the political system, and in particular from elected representatives. The fact that people vote for representatives that hold political power and nominate judges, chiefs of police, sheriffs, etc. is a very uniquely American thing.", "Close. \n\nHearsay is an out of court statement offered to prove the truth of an element. \n\nSo a cop can’t testify about what an alleged victim says, unless it was an excited utterance. \n\nHowever, the cop can testify about what he directly observed or directly learned as a result of the investigation.", "I'm from PA as well. If I remember correctly it was the Cash for Kids scandal.", ">It was made in reference to someone saying you cannot look at the US as a monolith cuz it's a massive country. \n\nWhich is obviously a bullshit argument. I mean there are smaller and bigger countries, countries that are centralized, have states or even \"countries\" inside countries. And we have zero problem in analyzing them as whole countries. It's just that Americans tend to think they are somehow special in this regard.\n\n>The argument being made AGAINST THAT was the US is an outlier in negative stats compared to \"other wealthy countries.\" \n\nAnd I assumed the person making that argument about wealthy countries actually meant mainly western countries, and the person originally making that comment confirmed my assumption later.", "Corrupted system to the core.", "I find that extremely hard to believe.", "Depends on the case and issue. \n\nIf you have two cops backing each other up with one defendant, a jury may defer to the testimony of two police officers. \n\nThere are times that police officers have been found not to be credible. But it is rare.", "Money damages*", "In my case the judge never had a choice, the system had the flaw. If the cop falsified documents but didn't show up, I never got to plead my case. They just drop it, there was no other recourse. When it's a police report, I'm relying on that evidence to build a small courts claim case. If the police report is false or erased (in my case they threw out 6 police reports because the defendant had connections) then the judge has nothing to work with. The evidence is gone. When you try to explain or speak up for yourself the judge tells you to shut up because it's out of procedure. Only you never get to speak, it's never your turn. I only got to speak during closing arguments (or whatever the last thing is) and by that time the minds had been made up. The system is broken.", "casual", "I want a b**** slap that attorney so bad", "There is, we just watched it.", "I enjoyed reading your story and glad you are doing better now! Congrats on the marriage and child", ">In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defense.\n\nThe Constitution does not specify that you need not be able to afford one to receive one without cost. You're making things up.\n\nSure, it doesn't specify \"for free\" either, but unless you want to argue that \"shall enjoy the right\" has some inherent subtext that requires an affordability determination, there's no merit in your argument other than \"this is how it has worked therefore how it should work.\"\n\nBesides, what does a judge know about finances? Is a judge a financial planner? Does he understand the intricacies of debt, inflation, medical costs?\n\nJust because a thing is a certain way doesn't make it right. I don't know if you legitimately have something against the state fulfilling its obligation without recouping costs for a thing it's *forcing you to do* or if this is just another drop in the \"status quo\" bucket. Care to elucidate?\n\nAnyway, you keep dodging my question: By your argument, the government should have the Constitutional right to attach fees to any other guarantee from the Constitution. What then do you propose be the fee for free speech?", "It's the info that I could find on here, if we're going to go into what we believe or not, there's no point arguing.\n\n\nAccording to his gofundme and legal counsel, the whole reason he was fighting the charge so hard was the complete lack of evidence. But he got intimidated and incarcerated, so he had to plead guilty to keep his job.", "blow this up! send this to local news! don't let the court judge itself on being corrupt. expose them and put some pressure on them to properly see this case.", "The video basically told you what to think. The fact pattern is: the guy had a history of being late, the court made up their mind before he was even late that they were going to punish him if he was late, the guy was late, the guy was punished for being late... all the rest is basically workplace laughing and joking. There is concern that the defense's counsel did not represent him well. WHether it was right or wrong, it was obviously to teach his client to stop showing up late.\n\nIf the prosecutor actually did know that he was there at 0907 then shame on him for saying 0938, but it really wouldn't have made a difference and there is no way to know he saw him.", "The judge is clearly told by the prosecution that Sanchez was there at 9:38(which was a lie because he saw Sanchez there 20 minutes before that), then the judge tells Sanchez that he wasn't in the courtroom until 10:45, which is also a lie.\n\nAnd then all the giggling from everyone about arresting him. It's just very childish and shows that no one there takes this seriously enough. But realistically, people are just following the tone set by the judge.\n\nMaybe Sanchez does deserve a little time in jail for not taking this seriously enough, but I don't hold him to the same standards that I hold a judge to. Plus I question whether or not she actually did wait until 9 to sign his warrant, given her untrustworthy character.", "Makes no difference to the lawsuit. \n\nHe probably would’ve gotten in trouble in the same way in the end, but that’s a separate issue. Your defense attorney isn’t supposed to conspire with the prosecutor to get you arrested.", "Yea my experience is only slightly better. Stay away from the court house folks.", "Oh don't get me started, especially on your healthcare. I've seen Americans call our kind of government subsidised (not quite free but close) national health care system \"communism\". But then there were apparently some Trumpers complaining about getting covid payments that were angry cos that's communism too. I'd rather be a bit communist than die because I can't afford to see a doctor or wind up bankrupt because I stubbed my toe and had to go to emergency care.", "I get annoyed when people assume this is either commonplace or likely to affect them when visiting the US.", "Do you regret it? I mean I hope your boy has done some shit for you, that’s no small favor", "I don't believe in good faith that his defense was conspiring against his own client. Just because he wanted to start his case first (since he knew his client was going to be late), doesn't mean that he is purposely trying lose his client's case. \n\nIn fact I don't see any evidence of conspiracy at all. \n\nThe client was in complete control and had every right to arrive on time or late as he pleased. I didn't see anyone forcing Sanchez to arrive late at all in the video shown above. He is in fact in complete control of his right to be heard by the judge. \n\nExcept he was the one who threw away his own rights by deciding to be late twice and no show once.\n\nYou can win a case if the defendant or other party does not show up in court. The judge often just throws those cases out. And they never make it to trial with a jury. \n\nIn the video evidence stated above, the video editor even states that he has been warned twice already and that a third delay/no show would result in a warrant issued for his arrest. And then we see that exact thing happen when he arrives a 9:07 am. Further when given a chance to comment on his case, he states for the court that he arrived at 9:08 am. \n\nPeople's reactions and behavior for when he Sanchez delays/no shows 3 times in court is not for dispute. And not against the law.\n\nWhen he holds up the court with his case, he is in fact at that moment denying others for their case to be heard by the judge and the courts. The Justice system is already backed up as it is. And if everyone was like Sanchez being late/holding up the court system by not being present, then the system will be robbing more people of their rights. Which is why he was warned the first time.\n\nAnd yet he does it again. So he is in fact in complete control and is denying others of their rights to have their case heard by a judge. By delaying the courts.\n\nThese type of trials typically happen within an allotted time, one after the other with the court and the Judges. This way everyone gets their time in court. \n\nBeing present is necessary for fair representation. Present and not delaying the courts.", "I don't think this one is quite that easy. What evidence do we have from the video alone - NOT THE WORDS ADDED TO THE SCREEN THAT WE CAN'T VERIFY IF THEY ARE CORRECT - that gives us such confidence about condemning the defense, judge, and/or prosecutor? They could very well be horrible or criminal, but the video alone is not absolutely condemning.", "stop playing red team / blue team. these injustices happen nationwide because capitalism requires the oppression and incarceration of the poor.", "Just got done watching Stone Ocean, this feel familiar.", "Lmao interesting admission", "Man, it's an absolute laugh how easily manipulated everyone in this comment section is.\n\nHere's a little perspective from the ground: this guy is a giant fucking asshole Trump-supporter who has spent the last 5 years fucking with the court and doing everything he can to gum up the works and be a general piece of shit.\n\nHe burned through multiple public defenders and then started filing pro se motion after pro se motion, all of which were hot garbage. He's one half-step from being a sov-cit and screaming about how there wasn't an Admiralty flag in the court.\n\nHis *entire* schtick is trying to screw with the government and grifting rubes for money.\n\nA little bit of editing, plenty of lies, and a sob-story that plays to the \"the whole justice system is completely corrupt\" zeitgeist and you *eat it up*.\n\nHe's a liar and a conman and you all are suckers ready to be fleeced.", "Hhahaha non Americans continue to prove to be disgusting", "Does anyone know what the laws in Utah are on suing for wrongful conviction? In Florida, they are so bad that even if he wins (an amount with a low cap, unless the legislature passes a law specifically for him, personally, which is their out if they get huge media attention), they then deduct the cost of his own fraudulent incarceration from his winnings. Yes, really.\n\nThe law here seems so horrible I'd doubt any state is stupider in this regard, but since it's Utah I thought I'd ask.", "I've gotta say, the vocal minority are getting way too much air time at the moment. Yep, lockdowns aren't ideal but they've kept us safe. Plenty of people in South Australia were pissed when we opened our borders back up to Victoria and NSW. And plenty of Australia are pissed off with the so called freedom marches.", "Yes, I don't particularly enjoy being called an asshole. But for me it pretty much sums up why I don't like Americans and will most likely never go back... The \"you are an asshole\" approach to friendly talks about politics is wery common. \n\nAnd yes, I am pretty sure I come off as a pretty likeable guy as I have spent hundreds of nights in private homes over the years in five different continents. Completely free, with people I met the same day... And in most cases politics and even religion are a part of the conversations... And even though discussions sometimes get a little hot I have never experienced what I experienced many times in America: disagreement on even one single issue would cause people to just walk away and not wanna talk with me about anything, ever again.. \n\nI believe the position I describe is highly American, and you going head on calling me an asshole right of the bat just proves my point... Why do you feel the need to assume I am an asshole just because I enjoy discussing politics...? \n\nMany Americans turn to unpleasantness and rudeness like a light switch whenever someone has an opposing political view. And I just find that so off putting... \n\nAnd through my two months over there I found that this lack of ability to have a good discourse pretty universal of both sides of your political spectrum... Just different triggers... \n\nI have traveled all over the world since the early nineties and I have never experienced such inability to 'agree to disagree' as I did in America... \n\nIf you wanna have a good time with an American you have to weigh your words all the time because suddenly you say something that would not lift an eyebrow in most countries, but in America you are suddenly an asshole and needs to be chased out of the state... \n\nI did manage to get to experience a few nights in American homes aswell, but only after I had figured out that Americans are insecure snowflakes and you need to treat them as children in order to not be seen as a \"fucking asshole\".. \n\nI basically had to lie and pretend to either be republican or democrat depending on what the person I was talking to adhered to.", "Wait going to Disneyland costs 1k usd and upwards? Had no idea...", "That laugh at 5:20 irks me to no end. \n\n\nJust a little gigle as I ruin someone's life. \nJust a cutesy little chuckle. \n\n\nThrow that bitch in whatever cell the dude ended up in. See who's \"tee hee hee\"ing then.", "Thanks man! Hope all's well on your end too.", "... they were saying the justice system is filled with racist pieces of shit...", "Is there a sub for this?", "Its not about bail, its about abuse of power and this happens in so many more districts courts because its quick money for them per case. In country where laws are meant to benefit businesses why would the Government not set shop on every corner and call it the justice system. The worst part it they try to milk money from people who don't have any.", "oh sure. you're right on point. to be fair the prosecution does the same EXCEPT the law requires they affirmatively disclose exculpatory (Brady) material. But I dont want to completely dismiss everything they say because counsel made a mistake or two. It's just they embellish too much when they really dont need to. He wasn't there until 9:08 but the most liberal view (in his favor) and thus he's still guilty of contempt. and that's criminal contempt ... not civil.", "Whoa buddy, do you have a job? If so, that post'll be a nominal fee of $50. Will that be cash or check?", "Hopefully someone will download the video and re-host it, just in case...", "I hope she took that straight to the judge.", "So what happened to the judge and everyone from this? Did Sanchez ask them to see court video?", "Easy way to get out of jury duty. They ask if you trust the officer to be truthful. My answer on three occasions was I don't trust pigs. Boom no jury duty", "Yeah. But the system isn't there to deliver justice, so he would be sabotaging the system.", "Ide go as far to say.. police are vermin / scum of the earth. At least in this country and many many more throughout the world.\n\nDon't need to distinguish P.A. vs the rest of them. And if any one says \"one bad apple\" bullshit.... All i have to say in response to that .. give them their own medicine. Guilty by association. Maybe they should not have been hanging out with their other gangster brothers in blue. If they can make the argument against me. I better to hell be able to use it against them.", "It still boils my blood that [Ken Anderson](https://www.texastribune.org/2013/11/08/ken-anderson-serve-jail-time-give-law-license/) got a slap on the wrist for falsely imprisoning people. And if you’re a cop that’s responsible for 75 dogs dying, [you don’t need a permit](https://www.fox7austin.com/news/ponderosa-pet-resort-not-expected-to-face-fines-due-to-no-kennel-permit.amp) like the plebeians do.\n\nIt’s corruption from top to bottom all across the nation, and there’s never any consequences if you’re a part of government, only if you’re a “civilian” and then you’re fucked.", "You can purchase or consume a kimono from Japan or a wine from Italy, it doesn’t mean they aren’t part of their culture", "I hear a lot of bad shit about AZ (I was there once, but only passing through), I didn't realize they were doing that though. That's badass. Hope things are looking up now bro.", "We're gonna throw you a parade.", "I'm impressed that you didn't defend a single part of your stance and still ended up out of arguments.", "What is this Stone Ocean?", "Eh, I didn't expect anything out of it. I'd do it for anyone I care about honestly. And no, really no matter what happens I can't regret the nice stuff I do. I have all the bad stuff for that.", "lmao", "Maybe after they start rounding us up by the thousands and start executing us for our \"differences\"\n\nA police state is hard to fight against and is a hard losing battle unless all of society is on your side. Remember in the beginning the nazis had less than 40% of popular vote, yet they were already discriminating against \"undesirables\" in a very similar manner.\n\nAlso don't forget the nazi's got a lot of their tactics from American politics. They actually thought we would be their allies had we not already been sucking England's dick", "meh, I can be a troll too. it happens.", ">Revenge? Not sure where that came from. \n\nThat's the only reasonable motivation behind claiming that DUI sentences are appropriate.\n\n>People that continually show they cannot safely handle the *privilege* of driving should not be driving. \n\nDriving is a legal \"privilege\" in that you have no civil right to drive, but it's not an optional thing to be able to survive in this country. \n\n>Also, if you get too old, you can't drive. Eye site too bad? Can't drive. Seizures? Can't drive. \n\n1) they can drive as soon as their condition improves\n\n2) we provide the old and disabled with the understanding that being unable to drive puts severe limitations on what they can do. \n\n>They should prove they are no longer an imminent threat to society before driving again. Treating their disease is a separate matter.\n\nLiterally nothing about DUI sentences \"proves you are no longer an imminent threat to society\" currently. I don't even know how one would prove such a stupid notion. You are sitting there defending a system because you find it's ineffectiveness \"appropriate\" and then claiming it should work differently a comment later.", "This is how your legal council gets disbarred. This is illegal", "lmao", "I get your point, because ours isn't perfect, but the USA has more people incarcerated per capita than any other country in the world. Current statistics are 639 people per 100,000 in the USA compared to 160 per 100,000 in Australia. Unfortunately, having done some study around indigenous peoples, in all countries indigenous or minority peoples are more often incarcerated than the general statistics.", "Same. The majority of Americans want universal healthcare.\nBut we are at the tail end of our democracy so will probably never have it.", "Our justice system really needs to get past that idea that cops are de facto telling the truth until shown otherwise. Their testimony is *at best* equal to any random citizen and at worst incentivized to be dishonest.", "wa wa we wa", "Drinking is the disease, deciding to keep letting yourself drive later(a decision made while sober) is the choice.", ">the system isn't there to deliver justice\n\nIt absolutely is. If it's not doing that, we need to fix it. I don't know about you, but I don't have a better way.\n\nCertainly this whole judge, jury, and lawyers thing is better than a mob with pitchforks deciding if you're a witch or not.", "Yes. You have a duty to your client. \n\nWhen people used to criticize Hilary Clinton for getting off someone she knew was guilty, it's actually her legal obligation. It is a crime what the defense attorney did", "source?", "Yep, if the Trumpers have their way you'll be in a dictatorship before you know it ;). I'm really looking forward to reading The Rise and Fall of the American Empire in my old age", "And he’s already definitely pulled one.\n\nHe isn’t the hero we deserve, but he is the hero we need.", "California Health and Safety Code section 11550 forbids being under the influence of drugs in non-driving situations.\n\nLaws aren't really designed to protect you and me so much as they are to punish us...", "What's really weird is, that miracles still happen. But noone believes them.\n\nThe miracle of the sun. 30.000 people witnessed the Virgin Mary appear in 1917.\n\nMuch better attested than anything in the Bible by orders of magnitude, and with actual eyewitness testimony.\n\nI don't believe it for a second, but the fact that Christians will believe 2.000 year old myths, written down decades later, by second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth? hand sources with no eyewitness testimony, over such a well attested miracle is hypocrisy of the highest order.", "Uh mistrial?", "For the court documents I can find (I believe this to be the correct case), Sanchez refused the breathalyzer and police did a blood draw at the station with the results being 0.13%.\n\nhttps://casetext.com/case/state-v-sanchez-1242072\n\nSanchez argued the search warrant for his blood draw is invalid because the officer made intentionally false statements about his actions.\n\nHe also admitted to have been drinking and smelled if alcohol according to officers.", "I understand that but you admitted you had previous tickets to the judge.", "Just pure evil", "> mouthwash would get you a DUI\n\nthat is literally not how it works it all", "Imagine what a clusterfuck having multiple separate competing justice systems would be. Don't like the judgement in one, find another one to give you the best justice money can buy or can you go 3 out of 5?", "There isn't a way to prove being sleep deprived, so people aren't charged with impaired driving for plain tiredness, despite everyone acknowledging that it is a similar risk level. However people have been charged with reckless driving for being too tired to drive appropriately, and even crucial negligence.", "Almost everyone? How many do you think are a danger to society and/or a flight risk?\n\nTake this case for example, a several year old DUI case. What's your reasoning for him needing to be in jail pending trial, apart from funding an insane jail/bond scheme?", "Economics is fundamentally human action in response to incentives. There *is* rigorous study of this uniquely human behavior...*some* primates dabble in barter...but people everywhere at all times are making subconscious economic decisions of the virtually infinite market of goods/services and the scare resources available to them.\n\nOP is incorrect to claim humans have somehow created a special \"justice\" institution that is immune to the fundamentals of human behavior. My point in comparing economics to physics is that all things involving humans are bound by the same rules and behavior.\n\nPeople everywhere consistently act within a their own framework of subjective values trying to get their needs met. Starting with the basic chemical functions to stay alive and moving up the hierarchy of needs from there.\n\nPrivate or public sector does not change how humans behave and respond to incentives. The public sector inherently lacks the incentives that drive people to a good job because the tax revenue rolls in regardless. And while in the private sector individuals have immediate recourse to shop elsewhere, in the public sector individuals have virtually no recourse...short of convincing 51% of society to get off their ass and vote for comprehensive reform while also trying to put food on the table.", "[What about facts now?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6i1D_MI_Gs&ab_channel=MyDefenseGuide)\n\nSo you are totally going to edit your comment and admit you are wrong. right?", "Make an example out of all of them. Engaging in fraud while holding a justice position.... should really be considered an egregious act on par with murder. I know that sounds like a bit much, it does to me at first thought, but if we can't trust those who hold the keys to our justice system, then what do we have? They are quite literally the cornerstone of our society.", "[What now?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6i1D_MI_Gs&ab_channel=MyDefenseGuide)", "Oh you sweet, precious soul. We need more of you.", ">Receiving compensation after being screwed is not a good system.\n\nIf this is your point, what kind of fairyland are you living in that it's possible to set up a system that never screws everybody?\n\nANY system is going to make mistakes. The difference between good systems and bad systems is that good systems have mechanisms for correcting both errors and malice.", "Christianity is nothing like when it started out as socialist egalitarian apocalyptic cults. And some sex cults too.\n\nRemember when God killed a married couple for not donating all their belongings to the community?\n\nRemember when Jesus Christ, who is supposed to be 100% God, and all knowing, spoke to God, (himself) and asked why he (himself) couldn't stop himself from being killed as s sacrifice to himself, so he could forgive all humans? And the answer was no.\n\nAlso,m don't forget, that the only part of the Bible that explicitly mentions the Trinity, is a later addition, and was not part of the original texts.\n\nIt's almost like it's all made up.", "Per the in-video screen captions:\n\n* The case has had dozens of court hearings over the period of 5 years.\n* Court records show Sanchez had been late once and absent for one court date.\n* The previous court hearing Sanchez was present with Chestnut, but was rescheduled because Torrence was absent. \n\nI'm going to operate under the assumption that the in-video captions regarding previous hearings are accurate as they are referencing court records. I'll set that aside and concede any nefarious action by the Judge and prosecution. Let's focus on the action of the Public Defendants: Defense Attorney Torrence and Defense Attorney Chestnut: \n\n* Torrence - \"Let's call it and get a warrant.\"\n* ...\n* Torrence - \"Is it time?\"\n* Torrence - \"8:40am. Ok. Four minutes? 8:45am?\"\n* ...\n* Torrence - \"Heather \\[Chestnut\\] lets call it before you get involved with talking to somebody.\"\n\nProceedings start:\n\n* Chestnut - \"Good morning your honor.\"\n* Judge - \"Oh, your ready? Good.\"\n* ...\n* Chestnut - \"Thank you that's all I'm ready on for now.\" <begins to walk way from lectern>\n* Torrence - \"Heather, Sanchez. Sanchez.\"\n* Chestnut <turns around and walks back to lectern> \"And your honor, I'm... Mr. Torrence is here today and we're ready on um Mr. Sanchez.\"\n* <Torrence approaches lectern, prepares to throw his client under the bus>\n\nThat non-ambiguous dialogue is a clear indication of Sanchez being targeted in an attempt at preventing him from having a fair trial by his own defense council.", "He wasn’t “late” though— the court OPENS at 0900. You can see at 0905 that people are still filing into the court room.\n\nA REASONABLE person would absolutely conclude that they should wait in line in an orderly fashion, showing due respect for court proceedings.", "I don't have access to the dockets myself but [a user who did laid out what was in them a few months ago when this was last posted](https://www.reddit.com/r/SaltLakeCity/comments/p1qyqa/utah_defense_attorney_conspires_with_utah/h8gkjsq/).\n\nMoreover, I'm using myself as a source: the public defender in question in the video is a longtime close friend of my relatives and I have a personal friend who is his coworker.\n\nSaid public defender in the video is one of the biggest bleeding-heart liberals I know. He gets offended if you even make off-color jokes about race or his clientele. He has an absolute heart of gold and if even he got sick of this client's bullshit that says *a lot*.\n\nWhether that's enough for you to believe is obviously up to you, but I'll at least point out that the linked video is in no way a good piece of evidence either: it's put up by someone with *massive* incentive to color the narrative, whereas I'm just some dude who knows some people involved.", "this place isn't fuckin fair. \n\n\nGod damn hate it here.", "“I lie to manipulate people and take advantage of people’s hospitality so I can sleep in their homes for free.” Right, you’re the paragon of humanity. You’ve done nothing but reaffirm for me that you’re a societal leech with your humble bragging about exploiting the good will of the various culture you’ve foisted yourself upon.\n\nLet’s contrast a bit. When I travel, I pay for a hotel so strangers don’t have to endure me out of the kindness of their hearts. I tip everyone because even though I know it isn’t required outside the US, it is expected of US travelers and I like to help people out. When I go, I ask questions about the host nation and it’s culture and I listen. I have enough awareness to know that even if somebody asks me about the US, my narrative should be topical. I’m not a propagandist, it isn’t my job to educate the rest of the world about my country, ideals, morals etc. I don’t make wakes in other people’s lives.\n\nI still believe you’re an asshole, and I’m sure you believe I am as well. I’m happy to agree to disagree on this thread, bid you farewell, and genuinely wish you never set foot in the US again.", "Lol are you trolling or what. I'm guessing you're a cop based on these replies. The comment I made to the judge included the context these tickets were 15 years ago. He did not use it against me. He used exactly what I started against me, that in lower court it was still up to me to prove my innocence and not the prosecutor to prove guilt.\n\nSaying I don't have a clean record because of speeding tickets. Gtfo. 90% of the US has had some sort ticket. 36% of drivers a year get a ticket of some sort. So you're saying that almost the entirety of the driving population are criminals. Lol. When people say that have a clean record they mean criminal....", "Court clerks actually have a lot more power over the courtroom than you would think. Judges run the front end of what happens in a courtroom, but if you piss off the court clerk, then your case isn’t getting called until the end of the day, or they’re gonna tell the judge to issue your warrant.", "It wasn’t a trial, just a pre-trial hearing.", "ye thats true for the whole western world.", "At this point— that does not happen without a great deal of bloodshed.", "\n>We are bound by the laws of economics\n\nAhh yes, the free market solves everything libertarian approch. \n\nWhat could possibly go wrong with putting 'justice' up for sale? After all, corporations are the penical of fairness and always act in the most ethical way. /s", "What a terrifying nightmare", "In most places, the refusal to provide a breath sample is itself a crime with the same punishment as a DUI.", "I agree there's no point arguing about this. There's so much missing information. This video does nothing to alleviate that, it's horseshit.", "It's exaggerating. Well, maybe if you used mouthwash right before blowing maybe, but yeah, I was just exaggerating.", "It wasn't even aimed at me so how could I be upset? I just call out bullshit when I see it, and there's a lot in this thread sadly", "This.\n\nI fell into the trap thinking at first but went back to rewatch and noticed, no time stamps on the CCTV feed (seems strange to me) and the only time given was from a bias source. (the defendant). Also the only facts given were by the defendant.\n\nI also thought it was weird video claimed defendant entered the courtroom so closely to when defendant approximated his entrance. (9:07 to 9:08). There was no video of him checking the time while waiting or talking to his attorney and to be that accurate of an approximate had me questioning a bit. (As he likely wouldn’t be checking the time trying to get into the courtroom.) \n\nFinal thing that doesn’t sit right is the judge saying “You were told before.” While not out of the realm of possibilities, I do. To think the judge would phrase it like this if she herself did not either issue the statement or confirm this in previous court records. Especially if what he is claiming, only been late once, was true.\n\nFinally this appears to be from 2015 (when crime occurred) and hasn’t really hit mainstream news. If this were really as damning of evidence of judicial misconduct I’d have assumed more major outlets would have taken up the story.", "Off with their heads! \n\nSeriously tho, this pisses me off so bad. How are these people not in jail? This world just keeps showing how twisted and corrupt it is. It’s just so tiresome and people wonder why many people in my generation don’t want kids. How can anyone feel right bringing life into this shitshow? People who are suppose to bring justice are more evil than the people they lock up sometimes!! I’m so disappointed in this disgrace of a judge. Dumb bitch. Next time I’m in salt lake I’m going to be thinking about her haha \n\nI just wish they could experience how helpless they have made people feel. They are a nightmare.", "[ **Jump to 05:20 @** Referenced Video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVPCgNMOOP0&t=0h5m20s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: Crafty Criminalist With Ms. Z, Video Popularity: 97.97%, Video Length: [10:10])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@05:15](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVPCgNMOOP0&t=0h5m15s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)", "That's unfortunate yeah, I'm not doubting he tried to do the right thing. I know though that a lot of people drink drive without realising, because they are still over the limit from the previous night but just think they must be tired or something.", "This, plus honestly why should we believe the court records when this video shows them falsifying the court records?", "As a former prosecutor, I have dealt with plenty asshole defendants that do show up late and piss off their own attorneys.\n\nOne thing I noticed is that this video says what time things occurred, and but never shows a clock or a timestamp. Mighty suspicious when this guy’s whole case rests on when things happened.\n\nOne big giveaway to me that this video is highly editorialized if not completely false, is that the video editor says “Court proceedings begin at 9.” But the court was already hearing cases before 9, according to their own time frame they gave. Which means that court proceedings obviously do not begin at 9, they likely began earlier and this guy was actually late. My courtrooms all started at 8:30.\n\nThe one big thing that I did notice that was weird about the judge’s conduct was issuing the warrant so early (after 9 like she said). Usually the judges I would appear in front if would wait until the end of the day, or noon at the earliest to issue warrants. And even then, if the defendant shows up when cases are still being called, the warrant would usually be recalled.\n\nBut anyway, my take on this is that the conduct by all parties is a little weird, but I can’t take what this video says at face value without more evidence. I suspect the video editor left the timestamp out for a reason, to promote this guy’s agenda.", "The US legal system is a total sham from top to bottom unless you're a millionaire", "If this is real, it's about the most illegal thing you can do as a defense attorney.", "No one has financial issues outside of America? Or no one gives up when the odds are stacked against them outside of America? What here is specific about America?", "Christmas is approaching. I wish to this judge and all of these other fkers lots of pain and misery in their life. That’s all they deserve.", "Alleged DUI according to the video", "100% agree.\n\nI'm not particularly familiar with how it's done in the US (only have experience with bail in Canada) but the only positive aspect of the US method seems to be that it gives rise to shows like Dog the Bounty Hunter.\n\nIn Canada, we have bail supervision programs that can act as a potential surety for individuals who are unable to find one (which is common among individuals who are living on the street or whose drug addictions and related thefts have left them with very few people willing to put their neck on the line). It's still not perfect though because there are people who are rejected by the programs and then get denied bail whereas someone who is well off likely has more options.", "I’m not a cop and idk about the rest of your “facts” but when you say clean record and you’re taking about speeding tickets ...gtfo", "Public defender = public pretender.", "Relatable", "Yeah. Still sucks here, but at least minus a felony I am able to get into college and start my life fresh, just 45 instead of 25. \n\nNext year or so I am going to be finished with college and GTFO, I want to go back to CO, I should never have came down here but I was tired of shoveling snow lol.", "I feel like you're being sarcastic and people are missing that. Police killing people in the streets is far, far worse than a Target being burnt down. Anything else is a gross overprioritization of profits over people that the US clearly embodies at multiple levels.", "Just normal courtroom behaviour here.\n\nI don’t understand the shock and outrage, this is the system working as intended.", "Again, I'd just like more facts and data before I go anointing Sanchez as someone I want to get all worked up about... if he's been playing the system and has a history of doing this in other cases... and the judge and attorneys know him from other cases... I'm a trial attorney with 40+ years experience - and I've come across the weirdos/lunatics who play victim over and over and over again in case after case - the same people - over and over again... so I would just want to know this guy isn't one of those people... if he is, then it is an outrage this video even exists because, believe me when i say \"FUCK THOSE PEOPLE\"\n\nIf not, then go after the judge and attorneys full speed ahead if they truly had it out for this guy ... but I'd be very surprised... why would they? I mean, they do this for a living... they have better things to do than hassle someone for no reason... it just isn't believable or logical that they would waste their time putting their own licenses on the line for ... this guy? why? it makes no sense... which, again, makes me very, very suspicious", "What do you think is the result of a civil suit? Monetary damages.", "Yeah, as [I told another user](https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/ra32cw/mans_own_defence_lawyer_conspires_with_the/hni9p9x/?context=3) I have a direct personal connection to the attorney in the video (and laughed when I realized I recognized him in this) and believe wholeheartedly in his personal character in this situation.", "The innocent residents of New York City who have become victims of 'no bail' recidivist criminals disagree.", "There are a lot of assumptions being thrown around by people who don't work in a legal system. I am a deputy City prosecutor and can tell you now, while some of this is a bit unethical, there's no laws that have been broken. For starters, we don't know what type of hearing this is. The type of hearing this is is what ultimately dictates the time he has to arrive. If this is an arraignment or anyway, he could have appeared 977 via his PD. If this is a PTH then he would obviously have to be present. It doesn't matter if his docket was called at 9:00 a.m. if his NoH says that he has to appeared 8:30, that's when he has to appear. Period. Often, doors close at 8:30 even if dockets are called until 9:00 a.m. . If you're not in, you're FTA. Period. The lenience on these rules ofc, vary by judge and court however. (This judge just seemed like a bitch, and most would not have done what she did, though technically it's her right to do so). That being said, the only real criminal here, ethically speaking, is the PD. It's her oath to defend our client, and she threw him into the bus. It's the Prosecutor's job to carry out Justice, and if this case really was one that was tied up in a PTH chain, the prosecutor did what was logical the people, as a prosecutor. That the PD went along with it, however, is really unfortunate. Again, nothing technically illegal, but unethical for sure. That's actually a bunch of other stuff I could mention, but I need to go back to work LOL", "Also, the video says that the bailiff and prosecutor look at the defendant and recognize him when he initially walked in. That’s a mighty big assumption to make, as the court sees hundreds of different defendants every day. This guy for sure seems like he has a persecution complex or something.", "Never once did I ever say it was illegal to cross state lines. Jfc if that's your level of reading comprehension.", "Nothing will change in the system until lawyers and judges start tearing for their lives over corruption like this. In a better society, these people would be dragged out into the streets and hung for pulling this shit.", "That's generally what police paperwork is for, lying.", "Any links where i can read it without the pay wall?", "I watch a guy stay in jail for like 200 dollar bail for a dumb crime for months. Bond only rewards the rich and fucks you if your poor. Plus justice is blind in America. Can defraud people of hundreds of millions or billions and do less prison that those who robbed a bank for a couple hundred", "i am so confused", "> i am so confused\n\nWhich part isn't clear?", "Fuck yes. Wanna ride on the float with me? Plenty of room on there, I'm sure.", "You're exactly right. This why judges need accountability.", "Lol okay buddy keep dreamin'\n\nAlso lmao the fact that you downvoted my comment is fking hilarious, damn man that 1 karma is gonna fuck with me so bad :( DAMN!! Here i'mma upvote yours cause they clearly mean alot to you buddy.\n\nlmfao.", "If he loses, Ill have lost faith in this country and it’s process, and I hope to god I never have to face the monster that is the justice system.", "You don’t spend time in prison before a conviction. 🤦🏻‍♂️", ">they were going to punish him if he was late\n\nThis could be true if they hadn't issued the warrant *before he was even late*.", "He wasn't that nice or cared that much... when I got caught with coke the cop wrote it up for simple possesion of marijuana just saying...", "The logical conclusion to my argument is that harsh legal consequences do very little to prevent behavior caused by addiction and DUI sentencing needs a major overhaul. Not even the death penalty would prevent DUI.", ">They conspired to accuse him of 'arriving late' and issued a bench warrant 15 minutes before he could possibly be late.\n\nThey conspired to accuse him of 'arriving late' and issued a bench warrant 15 minutes before he could possibly be late. 8:45 bench warrant issued.", "A few things, boxy. \n\nA) this criminal act was necessarily outside if her judicial function. It was an orchestrated criminal act. Criminal acts are per se outside the judicial function. \n\nB) This is also one of the reasons I said \"immune from what\", because this judge does NOT have immunity from criminal prosecution for anything. Judge's can and have been jailed. This just should be charged with multiple crimes (if the DA is not also corrupt/complicit), and the federal government can and may under these circumstances step in, one of them being a broad consipiracy between the judiciary and district attorney as we have evidence for here. \n\n​\n\nYou are incorrect. Also, how's 2L going?", "How far up will he never to go to find a \"sane, non corrupt court\"? And the way to the... Oh wait. Shit.", "No drugs? Is alcohol okay?", "Utah, individual have the option of taking the breathalyzer, urine or blood tests. It is only a violation if they refuse a test in general.\n\nIndividuals are also not required to take a field sobriety test which Sanchez refused, after officer administered and claimed Sanchez failed one of the test.\n\nEdit: Should clarify refusal can only happen if not under arrest. If already under arrest it is considered “implied consent” and refusal is a crime.", "I'm an attorney who used to practice primarily criminal defense or prosecution. While I never practiced in Utah, their procedures and substance are not that different than other states. First, no dui drags on for 5 years. Second, there's no such thing as ineffective assistance of counsel findings prior to a criminal conviction. Third, the prosecutor not speaking up when he referenced the time did not mean the prosecutor was doing something wrong but rather the prosecutor wasn't disagreeing with them. Fourth, defense attorneys often have to get photographs have their clients from a source like Facebook to put inside the file so they can keep there clients distinct from other clients, so a prosecutor or judge would have an even harder time recognizing a person just by their face. Sixth, only career criminals would have dozens and dozens of court hearings. Seventh, the defendant did not disagree about previously being warned regarding showing up late.\n\nNone of this means he couldn't be screwed over in some way or another, but there are a lot of red flags. While the defense attorney was obviously joking at the beginning, I'm not surprised by a defense attorney who's frustrated with his client being tempted to not try to buy additional time but instead let the client have consequences. I only watch the video once so I definitely invite critique.", "this is fucked. they fucked my brother and gave him 12 years and i seriously feel like this was going on in the background.", "Honestly tho. If we started publicly executing people again on live tv it just might make people respect the rules a bit more. Not going to lie I think it would hype people up too. Imagine being able to see hitlers head get chopped off... after seeing pictures of the Holocaust I would pay to see that. \n\nCheaper than jail too!", "For a brief period of time America burnt down a police station, and it was beautiful, then it all got co-opted by neo-liberals and nothing changed.", "This video needs to be forwarded to the FBI.", "Except there isn't video.", "Supposed to be, sure. Reality is the same type of people in this video are working in the system all over. We would end up with 5/5 people being a flight risk with no one having any way out of their cell. \n \nInnocent, guilty, doesn't matter. The goal is to generate as much debt and cheap labor as possible. \n \nI'm not saying cash bail is great, I'm just saying I don't trust the people responsible for executing the alternative.", "Haha yeah! Now you're on board.", "Based on [this write-up from the Salt Lake Tribune](https://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/10/31/utah-man-sues-public/) and specifically these parts from it (emphasis mine)...\n\n> Sanchez was supposed to be there at 9 a.m., but he alleges in a lawsuit filed recently in 3rd District Court that his court-appointed attorneys, Daniel Torrence and Heather Chesnut, called his case early — at about 8:45 a.m. — so that a warrant would be issued for his arrest.\n>\n> ...\n>\n> “Could I just know what time the warrant was issued?” Sanchez asked, his hands cuffed behind him. “What time did my attorney leave?”\n\n> “You can ask your attorney about that,” Judge Katie Bernards-Goodman responded. “**But we didn’t issue it until after nine. And you’re here way after that.**”\n\n...I doubt he's going to win this case.", "Fucking disgusting.", "You're missing the point on a galactic scale. They tried those tricks on Rittenhouse too. That's my point. Rittenhouse just had enough money behind him to protect himself due in part to the high profile of his case.\n\nAnd if you can't bring specific examples into a situation like this then you're just blowing smoke. you know that. I know that. The only difference is I admit KI know that.\n\nAlso I didn't downvote anything. I almost never upvote or downvote. Just doesn't occur to me as a thing to do.", "An atheist that doesn't hide it? What a rarity.", "> No drugs? Is alcohol okay?\n\nalcohol is a drug, every bail I've ever seen has been no drug use and no alcohol use, I just combined them into one.", "America - you are fucked.", "Sounds like the beginning of a Bizarre Adventure", "\"...this will happened...\"", "Their trick didn't work (emphasis mine):\n\n> “Could I just know what time the warrant was issued?” Sanchez asked, his hands cuffed behind him. “What time did my attorney leave?”\n\n> “You can ask your attorney about that,” Judge Katie Bernards-Goodman responded. “But **we didn’t issue it until after nine. And you’re here way after that.**”\n\nWhat his attorneys tried to do didn't result in his arrest. Him not showing up at 9:00 am did.", "So great to see good christians acting in such a thoughtful and forgiving manner. god is indeed good", "Corrupt cops, corrupt lawyers, corrupt judges...isn't our criminal justice system great? Things like this can happen to anyone who isn't rich. It's no wonder we have the highest incarceration rate in the world. Land of the free...", "Gross", "I don’t care about property. I read a comment once about how the killdozer destroyed jobs because it destroyed property. I’ll see if I can find it.", "Yeah that was a very scary thing to watch. I imagine it adds to the fear of police that already exists because you end up face to face with another layer of corruption rather than somewhere you can seek justice. One of the only things you have to hold onto when an innocent perosn finds themself in a terrible situation is the truth will set you free. But not in Utah apparently.\n\nI am going to Austin in Feb for work. I'm just going to stay in my hotel room when not in conference sessions. That country is fucking scary.", "Ah. Life lessons from the perspective of a dickless 14 year old white kid.", "This is literally the plot of Stone Ocean", "This guy is a fucking hero. After this is over someone make a statue of him. Please donate, share the video, and what can we do about the actual criminals in the video? Shame we can't tar and feather them.", "I am eager to hear the outcome of this guy's trial, but given the circumstances, not very hopeful. They all conspire with each other. We know the system is rigged against people to make money off them.", "Time and date record of the radar and/or ticket, and they usually make you sign it if they pull you over, iirc.", "> What's your reasoning for him needing to be in jail pending trial, apart from funding an insane jail/bond scheme?\n\nI have no reasoning for him to be in jail, in fact I wouldn't want him to be in jail. I would want him to be out and obeying the restrictive rules of the state while he is going through the process of court. \n\nThe whole idea that you could be arrested and you couldn't be jailed / have any restrictions put on you till after you have been found guilty is insane to me. Get a DV charge and everyone just has to go to the potential victim 'welp, until we settle this in court there is nothing we can do to help you. He lives in the same house so you have to allow him to keep living there' is... wrong. then the flip side, he has to be jailed for 6 months and then be found not guilty because the dv victim wasn't actually a victim? 'welp, sorry too unconvinced you, good luck with the rest of your life.' is also wrong. \n\nRelease the person on a restrictive release, and only jail him if he or she breaks those restrictions.", "Where are you getting that he missed ten trials? The video said he missed 1 court appearance (which I assume you meant instead of trials) I thought, and was just late to others.\n\nEdit: someone summarized the actual court filings for this below and our man missed multiple court dates not just 1 as the video implied.\n\nhttps://www.reddit.com/r/SaltLakeCity/comments/p1qyqa/utah_defense_attorney_conspires_with_utah/h8gkjsq?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3", "That and getting a lawyer to sue for you. Worth checking if someone will take their pay out of the winnings, even if you can't afford one.", "> They tried those tricks on Rittenhouse too.\n\nNo they didn't. Nobody tried any tricks on him. The cops didn't kneel on his neck or bust the door down with no warning or shoot him while he was trying to pull out his CCW. He walked up to the cops with an AR hanging off his shoulder and the police were cool with it. He got all the benefits of the legal protections we talked about ***AND*** an extra bonus for having the correct complexion.\n\nYou get to be disingenuous. I get to call you on it and list some actual examples. Don't get pissy with me because I'm not eating up your nonsense.", "This is nothing unusual for certain folk...happens all the time.", "> Where I live we just put major restrictions on cash bail\n\nSounds like NY. when that happened in NY people in my state (one down) were even freaking out. Pretty much no one who was against the changes were willing to think 2 seconds after gut reaction.", "Nothing in this clip is alleging that court documents were falsified.", "Is it really necessary to add 'assuming it isn't bullshit' to the end of every sentence?\n\n\nAlso, for your consideration:\n\n\nhttps://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/10/31/utah-man-sues-public/\n\n\nThe article from the top comment in this section", "_squint_ Are you sure you read what I wrote?", "Probably because such vigilantes will just cause more violence. A corrupt cop kills someone, vigilantes kill the cop, cops retaliate, vigilantes retaliate. On and on. This also assuming the vigilantes don't also become corrupt with power (look at HOAs to see how ridiculously easy that is).", "> I don't trust the people responsible for executing the alternative.\n\n*At worst*, the alternative is as bad as the reality. Judges *already have* the power to just keep people in jail through insurmountable bail options or revoking their freedom entirely by deeming them a flight risk or danger (unless there are good bail reform laws in place), so if you're afraid that getting rid of bail will let corrupt judges keep people in jail, well they can already do that.\n\nBut a well-written bail reform law will make it much harder to unjustly keep someone in jail. For instance, in NYC anyone charged with a non-violent misdemeanor first offense gets to walk. Period. No options to retain them in jail at all. It's not a perfect system and it's continuing to be improved but it's better than letting potentially corrupt or misguided judges keep them in jail by creating insurmountable cash bail options.", "Pretty sure you aren't supposed to commit crimes even when you're not out on bail", "thing is it's not an US-only issue, which is what i'm guessing you mean with \"this country\" almost every other country has the same laws (no extra charges for sleep deprived driving, but yes for alcohol)\n\n​\n\nit's not that someone who drinks and drives is a bad person, but it's a clearly irresponsible person, or someone who thinks \"it will never happen to me\" but then it does, and other people also suffer in the process because of said irresponsability.", "You dont think his representation doing dodgy with the judge, prosecutor and bailiff a pretty good indication that his legal representation isn't the best? Somehow, you think this proves they are on the up n up the whole time and never ever ever were negligent in their duties previously? \n\nWow.", "Apparently it's in the public court documents, this comment summarized it. https://www.reddit.com/r/SaltLakeCity/comments/p1qyqa/utah_defense_attorney_conspires_with_utah/h8gkjsq?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3", "Man this is disgusting", "Last I read the Judge has retired rather comfortably.", "Note to self, arrive early to court in Utah", "I don't know much of the actual court proceedings, but I feel like they should be able to find even one piece of evidence more than a police officer's testimony for things like this. A witness, a ticket (which they usually make you sign iirc), dash/body cam, traffic cameras, something, and 'we had some but we lost/deleted it' should cast extra doubt on the officer's testimony unless there's a provable, reported malfunction. It's just frustrating, especially since there's not really a third party able to keep a police department accountable.", "What? Naw, he still should get a fair trail. Your a piece of shit for thinking otherwise. We are defending a right that everyone has, not anything els. People who are accused of murder and rape get fair trials why shouldn’t he? \n\n Fuck you for defending multiple lies and acting like he deserved this. No one deserves this, not even your dumbass.", "Act like majority gets caught 🤷‍♂️", "Not sure if it's fair to blame the whole state's population of police, but I do agree that many cops in Philly are jerks.", "Almost certainly a mistrial with this evidence in plain sight. They fucked themselves trying to pull one over him.\n\nI don't have high hopes that much will come of this. I mean let's be honest with ourselves, how much confidence do you have in a court case, involving judges and lawyers, when this whole issue spawned from those very same people abusing their power to get at someone?\n\nFuck the US legal system.\n\nI'd take it all the way to the Supreme Court, because this shit cannot happen again.\n\nI think in the GoFundMe, they specifically mention trying to make an example, though. So best of luck to them.", "Evidence vs faith works fine in a religious setting( your the one who has to deal with the consequences so you choose whether you believe or not) however it does not work in a courtroom.", "Wow even the real life legal system has become a Jojo reference", "This is what freaks me out, how do we know public defenders aren’t best buds with prosecutors? They’re both lawyers, they both work for the same entities. Why wouldn’t they team up to try to make their lives easier?\n\nIs there a third party monitoring corruption?\n\nWe’re sending people to prison for years on years but there’s no stop gap as citizens to check the validity of the people sending them there. Juries can only do so much if they’re given flawed information.", "Wow, they way in which so many people here are just accepting what this **advocacy video** is saying as fact, with zero skepticism, is really depressing.\n\nYou don't notice all the cuts in the video and wonder whether the uncut version might tell a different story? Your spidey senses don't tingle at all when subtitles appear on screen telling us what someone is saying, but the audio is so poor that we can't hear what they're saying? The uploader puts some text on the screen and you just accept it as definitely the truth?\n\nAnd then we wonder how it is that social media is doing such an effective job twisting people's opinions.\n\nI wonder how many people jumping on this are the same people who yell \"fake!\" anytime someone posts anything slightly unusual happening to them. Looks like all you need to do to avoid that is to construct your video in the form of the little guy getting screwed by the system, then all that skepticism gets left at the door.", "SCUM", "Yup, NY. So far, the world hasn’t come to an end, crime rates haven’t gone sky high…and of course the people claiming the sky would fall without cash bail are the ones who wouldn’t be impacted by it one way or the other. It’s really a way to bring some equity to the criminal justice system. The amount of money you have should have absolutely *zero* impact on whether you spend time behind bars pre-trial. There are still ways to keep the worst violent offenders from getting back on the street: no bail, same as before. Now we just won’t have low-level offenders stuck behind bars (think [Kalief Browder](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalief_Browder) ).", "If we were in the same room and eating lunch, I would bet you $20 before clicking on this link that it quotes the defendant without any, or any significant, independent journalistic fact-checking. Would you agree with that statement?", "Fuck these corrupted officials. They’re playing with this mans livelihood like it’s a game. They should be locked up and disbarred", "It’s Utah, a state that is controlled by the Mormons. The attorneys and the judge probably see each other at church every week. If you’re not in that club you’re powerless.", "Sanchez *ended up* being late anyways. The point of what happened is regardless if Sanchez was late, the courtroom (including his lawyer) appear to have conspired against him. It is evidence of an egregious miscarriage of justice and unprofessional conduct.", "It also depends on the agency. FBI, ATF, BLM and DEA would have alot more leeway in Tribal lands than ICE, given their focus. Leeway doesn't mean they can do whatever though, and do have limits.", "And then the judge, defender, and prosecution go play a round of golf. They seem quite “chummy”", "Society has tried multiple times. The hippies and the anti- Vietnam stuff, Occupy Wall St, BLM, etc. With every movement the police just get more militarized gear.", "What state is this where the public defender is so well funded it’s lawyers can conspire to -keep- clients?", "Whoa hey calm the heck down, babe", "Sickening. The way they’re all smiling and giggling.", "I would love an update on this case in the future. I hope that lawyer gets his shit handed to him.", "I’m not familiar with the term, but I just looked it up and it seems... silly? Kind of sexist? Can you explain how saying girls get anxiety when they realize they aren’t men has any real merit or evidence in reality?", "The justice system in Texas is a joke. The Galveston county DA's office told me recently they were offering \"2 for 1\" deals on sentencing because they are so overcrowded. As in, you serve half a sentence if you even serve a sentence. I saw a guy try to kill another guy with a knife, the attacker had previous convictions, was facing aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, pled down to terroristic threat, sentenced to 30 days in jail, but got credit for time served for other crimes he committed, ended up out of jail after 3 days. Texas is lenient as hell. Bond conditions say don't get arrested, don't drink alcohol, no guns? Same guy with the knife, got arrested for DUI and a weapons charge while out on bond for the knife attack. Was bond revoked? No. Was anything done? well the DA asked the judge to do something, and the judge was like \"nah its all good just let him go\". Hell, Harris county floated the idea of just dropping thousands of cases because they are too overworked to even look at them.", ">I'm going to operate under the assumption that the in-video captions regarding previous hearings are accurate as they are referencing court records\n\nThis is put up by a youtube channel with no real history claiming to have based everything on court records. It also plays ominous music to form the viewers impressions at points - which no actual legal researcher would do. There's no more reason to trust its claims than a random reddit account making claims without actually presenting evidence. You can see comments here all the time that say \"the evidence x shows y\" that just straight up lie. \n\n\nEVEN trusting the video though, Sanchez's claims are just incoherent. Consider the following. \n\n\n1) To believe him - Sanchez was not drunk driving, but a cop decided to arrest and charge him anyways. He was then appointed defense attorneys that conspired against him. Of course, there are crooked cogs in the system - but the combo of crooked cop / crooked defense attorney should raise some suspicion. \n\n\n2) The defense attorneys take his case for FIVE years, attend multiple hearings, and after all that time decide to conspire to throw him in prison. \n\n\n3) There really is no possible motive here for the defense attorneys. \"They wanted to be finished with the case\" - they can just drop the case. Much easier and less messy than setting up their own client. \n\n\n4) They were conspiring against him before 9! \n\n\nIf your client is going to be arrested if they arrive before 9, and has a history of showing up late - what time would you tell them to show up? ANY lawyer is going to say \"Be there at 8\". In all likelihood, they agreed to meet there well before 8:40, and he didn't show - hence why they got ready to call it at 8:45 \n\n\n5. If Sanchez had showed up on time and still been arrested - obviously this would be unfair. But he was told he would be arrested if he was late - and he still showed up late. The end result isn't really unfair to him - its just a hypothetical case of whether they would have been unfair if he had been on time. \n\n\n6. There's no motive for the conspiracy here. The alleged conspiracy wouldn't have mattered (if the warrant was issued at 9 - he still would have been arrested). \n\n\n7. Its blatantly clear that Sanchez showed up late - and that he was warned of the consequences beforehand. Yet he doesn't accept responsibility for that. If you know someone doesn't accept responsibility for a mistake you KNOW they made - and then they tell you everything else is someone elses fault - that should tell you something", "Fucking amazing . . . Such blatant disrespect for the law.", "So you consider someone with a speeding ticket a criminal? Because when people talk about having a record they sure as hell aren't talking about a ticket.\n\nAnd you can put \"facts\" in quotes or you can research it yourself and see how big of an idiot you are. Almost everyone in their lifetime will have had a ticket of some sort at some point in time. Guess we're all criminals! Lol\n\nAlso, any ticket is expunged from your record after 3 years by request or 5 years automatically. I literally, and I mean literally, have a clean record. Even to the courts. Because my last ticket was 15 plus years ago. They do not exist in any system. Take your L and move on buddy.", "Would that matter when a lawsuit is brought against them? Conspiring against your own client is unethical and the time the defendant showed up on this date should be irrelevant to the case. When they could have relied on the tardiness of the defendant to execute a warrant they chose instead to conspire and alter court records. The defendant wouldn't be suing them to prove he showed up on time.", "I make 13$ an hour at a grocery store. The judge told me I made too much for a public defender. Not sure who is actually eligible for one to be honest.\n\nEdit: I live in Minnesota", "Ok, then, why does someone need restrictions in their daily life for pending trial on a 3 year old DUI case?", "Yeah, so you have the court record for when it was actually issued? Do you think if he got there on time it would have been issued?", "I'm not gonna argue and defend Freud's whimsical narratives and concepts. If you want someone to then take a 1000 level basic psych class.", "Wow that’s low!", "Lock him up so he has to take the plea to get out. Bench Warrants are a powerful motivator.", ">Americans do. There's some literally think Donald Trump was sent by God.\n\nI'm saying there are far more people saying this kind of shit than there are people who think Trump was sent by God", "State decides what is and isn't evidence. Legally it is not considered evidence until it is entered into a case as evidence.\n\nLegally you still have no leg.", "Thank you. Putting someone in jail isn’t a laughing matter. Their casual indifference to him was so dehumanizing. I feel sick.", "> Wasn't he still late? 9:07am for a 9am hearing?\n\nYes: [the judge didn't issue the warrant until after 9:00](https://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/10/31/utah-man-sues-public/). He didn't get arrested because his lawyers attempted to bring the start time forward. He got arrested because he arrived after the time he knew he was ordered to appear.\n\n> lying about his past attendance/tardiness\n\nNote well: there's actual no evidence in the video that they lied. The only reason you think they lied is because the person who made the video put some text on the screen saying so. In a video *explicitly* created to advocate for the defendant against the lawyers and judge.", "This happened last year. The police even were messing with some of the evidence against him. This is total bullshit. These public defenders are around the prosecutors and the judge ALL day long. They become friends. The pricks are all in cahoots with each other. Have some damn integrity for Christ's sake. FU Utah. And FU to the judge, prosecutors and the public defense attorneys too. \n\nHope this guy ends up with a giant settlement. Unfortunately nothing will happen to the douche bag judge or the defense attorneys or prosecutors. \n\nIf you can afford it, and if you have the option,, try to avoid a public defender who has been in the same court for years.", "Field tests aren't admissible in court. They are enough to establish probable cause to take you to the precinct/hospital for a highly calibrated breathalyzer or take blood samples.", "Yeah you really armchaired this one good. I wonder why his law firm offered him $45k to settle this and why the judge retired after this video got YouTubed. Hmmm", "Rules for thee, but not for me.", "We don’t hate you. We just feel sadness in our hearts that you’ve been corrupted by the Dark Side.", "The clip does have a text excerpt that states they work together to falsify records.", "This is why you always arrive at least a 1/2 hour early.", "Found it. What I think happened with this story was that it was used to divide people. It was framed as some poor guy who lost everything and driven to madness. Whoever spun it did so in a way that would make it go viral and cause people to react in a visceral manner so there would be more division.\n\nWhatever it really was, the point still stands that people think livelihoods are equal to lives.\n\nhttps://history.howstuffworks.com/american-history/killdozer.htm", "Just a dui. You have family that uses the road or lives near one?", "This shit is normal occurrence for visible minorities and poor people.", "He'd still get Local Feds first. The Feds who have a relationship with local police depts and prosecutors. \n\nGet the story out first and get an attorney who's actually working for you.", "The fuck is this? Stone Ocean?", "If he can get media attention and the video goes viral, the courts will have to respond. No one can watch that smirking and giggling and not find this outrageous", "He was late absolutely. Has they waited 5 minutes.. they would’ve been able to issue the warrant and Sabchez wouldn’t have any legal recourse (of course excluding the bit where the defence, prosecution and judge seem to be working in tandem…).\n\nSo both things are true. Sanchez is late and the court conspired against him and unlawfully issued the warrant.", "I had a lawyer that played golf with the judge in my case. When the state strongly recommended giving me time the judge cut them short and went against their direction. The state snarked back and the judge told the recorder to put on record that the state doesn’t approve of the judge’s decision. I went from looking at years to getting time served and my adjudication withheld.", ">is the idiot that was late.\n\nHe wasn't late. His case was called 15 minutes before he was told to get there.\n\n>In what moronic clown world is that proof or \"facts\"?\n\nThe real world?\n\n>No court in the US says \"ok be here at nine or... whenever.... you decide\" lol\n\nAnd no court should tell someone to show up at 9 and then penalize them for not being there at 8:45.\n\nYou can just admit you are wrong instead of doubling down on the bootlicking.", "Assuming you're going to respond to any source I can provide, what would you like from me? Take it up with the fucking Salt Lake Tribune. Like I said, didn't realize it was necessary to follow up statements with 'assuming it isn't bullshit'. No reason to be a douchebag.", "Probably the best insight on the thread. \n[https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/ra32cw/mans\\_own\\_defence\\_lawyer\\_conspires\\_with\\_the/hngjy5z/?utm\\_source=reddit&utm\\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/ra32cw/mans_own_defence_lawyer_conspires_with_the/hngjy5z/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)\n\n​\n\nIt's hard for his lawyer to do his job if the defense habitually shows up late. \n\n\n\\>you think this proves they are on the up n up the whole time and never ever ever were negligent in their duties previously? \n\n\nWhat kind of asinine shit is this? If you are looking for proof in a video tailored for outrage then you got issues. My whole point is that this **proves** nothing. Congrats on being a pawn in the outrage machine though. \"wow\"", "Lmao downplaying how absolutely serious a DUI is.", "This makes me appreciate my attorney who saved me from a bs dui charge when I was 21. Dude was persistent and professional. Even advised me not to take a deal because he knew I was innocent. 11 months later I walked into trial and was met with him, papers in hand saying everything is dropped and to have a good day. That’s the sort of humanity Sanchez was robbed of from his crooked attorney and the rest of the fools in that courtroom.", "Justice would be charging those involved with kidnapping (ransom set at $15k) and false imprisonment. The fact that they used the “justice” system to perpetrate their crime only makes it worse.", "Nah I know, we actually had a very good “professional adversaries” thing going on in my courtroom. I liked our PDs and I’m pretty our PDs like me and my partner.\n\nAnd if it makes you feel any better I did leave the office to do something else.\n\nWe also were a very progressive office. A bunch of us marched in the Floyd protests. So you might’ve liked us too, if we were on a case together.", "You are an excellent advocate for why people shouldn't visit America!", "Oh nice, yeah seems this guy's a turd.", "Yes. It was a disgusting display. His attorney completely threw him under the bus. A good defense attorney would have been in contact with his client before docket call and would have made every effort to buy him time, or at least wait until after he arrived to call the case. They were WRONG to issue a warrant before 9:00 AM. A good lawyer would have stuck around and asked the judge to recall the warrant once his client arrived. All that being said, the dude was still late. Again. There is nothing unusual or uncommon about a judge issuing a bond increase or even a bond forfeiture for someone who is not in the courtroom at the time of docket call, even if they're just in the hallway or the bathroom. I see it literally all the time.", ">back in the days when I actually gave a shit about stuff like that you might have influenced me. I couldnt care less anymore so you have fun!\n\nYou clearly give a shit otherwise you wouldn't respond.", "Watching Judge Katie Bernards-Goodman lie to his face and tell him that a warrant issued before his trial was set to start at 9 was issued after 9 is pretty wild. Coupled with other's stories, it's no wonder that there's 0 trust in our judicial system. Bad apples like her and this Public Defender ruin it.", "Right? Like the prosecutor, attorney and judge in this video aren't actually guilty of anything but reddit wants them to be, no presumptive innocence for those guys.", "The most confusing part is everyone in these comments acting like the bench warrant shouldn’t have been issued. His case was set at 9:00 a.m. and at 9:00 a.m. he wasn’t there. Bench warrant was 100% proper. Neither his lawyer, the judge, the prosecutor, or the bailiff made him show up late. If he had been there at or before 9:00 the warrant would have been recalled.", "Yep, but Reddit didn't want to hear it because we're all anti justice system so the reality was downvoted.", "So I got a dui here in Florida had some trouble in the beginning financially so I had Togo with a bail bonds (Integrity Bail Bond on 49th st and like 110th(?) Ave Clearwater Florida) \n\nMy bond was 2 grand and I missed a court date \n\nThe bail bondsman harassed my family, my girlfriend, my ex wife, my grandfather threatening to fine or catch them legal charges demanded entry ti my grandfather's house lied about my charges, lied about future legal consequences and caused a hell of a lot of grief \nAll to squeeze nuts for 2 grand \n\nFuck those cunts and fuck people profiting off of something that should have nothing to do with them \n\nIdek if they have the rights to do that kind of shit but there isn't a desire to get me in jail it's to get them their money and thats the problem", "Birds of a shitfeather flock together, Randy.", "If the timelines represented in the video are accurate then that is exactly what occured. \n\nCan we know either way, for sure? Not without independent investigation. \n\nBut we have seen some really stupid lawyers and judges in the media recently. So it's not impossible.", "This is a good question with a very simple answer: be on time. If he had showed up on time the warrant would have been recalled. That’s it.", "Hey this video is wildly out of context and inaccurate, you can check out the below post where someone summarized the actual court filings instead of the biased video cut together above.\n\nThis guy had missed multiple court dates and they had every legal right to issue a bench warrant.\n\n\nhttps://www.reddit.com/r/SaltLakeCity/comments/p1qyqa/utah_defense_attorney_conspires_with_utah/h8gkjsq?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3", ">It's just that Americans tend to think they are somehow special in this regard.\n\nI think that's disingenuous a tad bit.\n\nFirst, not all Americans, obviously. Pretending 300+ million all believe a single thing is ridiculous.\n\nPart of the issue IS that it is hard to compare the US to other countries BECAUSE of the size, population, and the way we are a federation of states as a single entity. This leads to comparisons that are not quite 1:1. It isnt because the US is special, it is because making shit comparisons isn't special. You CAN compare the US to other countries, but the land size, diversity, and population size leads to issues small countries do not have to even think about. These differences tend to be conveniently ignored during those comparisons.\n\nWhich is why comparing the US to the EU - even though we all know that isn't quite right either - is more fair of a comparison overall. It is closer to how the US operates overall than comparing... say, the US to France. Comparing the US to the EU would be more fair overall at this point, but that breaks down these arguments immediately, as again... the comparison isn't quite right. But, closer to parity than the US to (insert European country here)\n\nEach state has its own laws, own taxes, own systems of government that are separate from the federal government. The Federal Gov simply supercedes SOME laws... not all, as some laws cannot be overturned by the feds unless they break constitutional law. This leads to differences in states you simply do not see elsewhere to the same extent, unless you were looking specifically at the EU. Our regions have their own cultural, social, and political norms like differing countries... that's why the comparison to the EU, while not perfect, is a lot more equitable than comparing a country the size of a medium sized state in population and region.\n\n> I mean there are smaller and bigger countries\n\nThere are only 2 \"bigger\" in population, and only 3 bigger in regional size - China is the only country that is both. This absolutely impacts a lot. \n\n> And I assumed the person making that argument about wealthy countries actually meant mainly western countries, and the person originally making that comment confirmed my assumption later. \n\nWhich means they were being Eurocentric, right? Why compare only Western countries and not other affluent countries from other parts of the world. \n\nAnd even with that in mind, it also means they ignore many EU countries to make the comparisons. No one is comparing Greece, Italy, or Spain.", "Even if you take into account that he was 7 minutes late (regardless of security), there's clearly no way justice is being served by him having to spend two weeks in jail for it.", "That’s weak as fuck", "There's a video where Mr Sanchez gives some more insight on his case and he mentions how he had to file his own motions since his lawyers just wanted him to admit he was guilty inorder to resolve the case. He wanted to push that it went to trial.", "Unreal", "There is a billion people at 9AM, they start calling cases at 9AM but might take up to past 12PM to get called up.", "Sometimes I really wish we destroyed ourselves sooner so people can finally see how fucked America is because of bullshit like this.", "How is she still in office? Will nothing happen to her?", "This video shows less than 10 minutes of coverage of a 5 year case, but yeah definitely shows everything we need to understand this situation fully. /s", "No, you just get called again at the end.", "Claims I'd like to see you provide scientific evidence for: \n\nThe claim that behaviorally responding to incentives is a uniquely human trait\n\nThe claim that incentives affecting human behavior are necessarily or exclusively economic (meaning money since that is how you are framing it)\n\nThe claim that economics alone (as in source of funds) explain human behavioral incentives\n\nThe claim that private sector workers consistently do more of a \"good job\" than public sector \n\n...with the same rigor and certainty as the laws of physics LOL\n\nI mean I don't think you'll even find any leading economists claiming this. Certainly none that aren't extremely controversial. You definitely won't find evolutionary psychologists claiming this, not even the really controversial ones.", "I don't know if the world habitually applies. In 5 years and dozens of appearances. he was late one time and missed one other time.", ">All i have to say in response to that .. give them their own medicine. Guilty by association.\n\n Yup, they will happily assume you are guilty because someone else committed a crime.", "9AM is where they begin calling cases but there a billion people so it might be 10, 11, or 12 until your name actually gets called.", "He was in line to enter.", "Getting rid of the monopoly to start and you could chose between corrupt and slightly less corrupt at least.", "They purposefully altered their reports, training had nothing to do with it. It was blatant corruption.", "Same thing happened to Brendan Dassey in \"Making a Murder\"...I still can't believe that kid is in jail.", "Had he shown up before 9 they wouldn't have issued the warrant, he showed up after 9 so they did. He had missed many other appearances and been late to many others, a bench warrant is the correct response to this and per the judge he had been warned at his previous appearance if he was late again a warrant would be served, so he knew this would happen, showed up late anyway, pikachu faced when he got arrested.", "This is the most confusing comment section I’ve seen in a while. This guy’s case was set at 9:00a.m. and at 9:00a.m. he wasn’t there. The bench warrant wouldn’t have been issued (or would have been recalled if already signed) if the defendant had been there at 9:00a.m.\n\nEdit: y’all can downvote me to hell, but I’m right. Had he been on time he wouldn’t have gone to jail.", "I've long been in favor of a sliding scale for DUI punishment. Someone who had a couple of beers and is just slightly over the limit absolutely should not be treated the same as someone who is blackout drunk.", "How is that even legal", "this is just like what happened to jolyne in jojo's bizarre adventure stone ocean...", "What a bunch of garbage humans, if there is a hell I hope they rot in it", "Since the tax payers do have a say in who they ellect for sherif and they could also push for a better accountability in their officers, they are kind of responsible.", "Honestly that’s what I was thinking 🤣", "Assuming you have money, otherwise you are going with the walmart of justice systems. We've seen how well that goes.", "Sad that judge should be jailed", "There's a minimum crew requirement", "Are all of these clowns disbarred yet? If not how can we make that happen? There is an ethics bureau foe the Utah State Bar where you can make a report.", "No question.", "You're absolutely wrong. The defense has NO reason to try to start the case early if his client isn't present. None. His correct course of action would be to ask that it be placed at the back of the docket.\n\nAlso he was literally badmouthing his own client to the judge. The purpose of the defense is to be a zealous advocate for the defendant which he absolutely was not.\n\nYou're missing the forest for the trees in that the defense has a role to play here that MUST be followed for the defendant to have his due process, and in this case the video evidence shows it was not.\n\nThe courts also generally frown upon giving harsh punishments like warrants for 'de minimus' delays like being a few minutes past in an absolutely packed court house and court room.", "I got pulled over for making a right turn on my green without my blinker on while in the turning lane. The cop wrote me up and told me to show up to court and fight it because he would not show up. I had to take time off work to go to court, pay a $200 or something fine, that they gave back to me 6 weeks later. All of the officers that presented their cases to the judge “didn’t remember writing the ticket” and ALL cases before mine were dropped. What a huge fucking waste of my time, the officers’s time, the judge’s time and countless others. If I didn’t have the money to front the illegitimate ticket, I probably would’ve been worse off. This is what the justice system looks like.", "So, your whole concept is in advocacy of a system without coercion and then in your last paragraph you explain how you'll coerce people into it?", "Ok I'll kick your door down shit on your wife and insult your dog, afterwards I'll give you money as compensation.\n\nSee the problem here?", "The justice system is simply there to ensure non wealthy people are kept in line and others are scared to fight against this system. The only time wealth starts to lose to justice is when overwhelming public opinion is used and the crime is heinous.", "Two issues. First, the extraordinary amount of upvotes with almost no questioning here means that people are taking it serious without the tagline whether this is complete bullshit. \n\nSecond, I didn't think it was douchy to point out that without even reading a source it is unlikely it will actually provide information to give us the appropriate clarity.\n\nI didn't mean to come across douchy. I just think that comment threads in cases like this are nothing short of intellectually and morally dangerous.", "My entire point really is that we don't know so why to a conclusion. You are right, I don't know if \"habitually\" applies. They all had the sentiment that this was a regular thing though didn't they? I'm sure it's no coincidence that he was in fact late? I just don't get the idea that this extremely limited clip somehow shows a failure in the judicial system like people are portraying it.", "The defense shouldn't have called his case forward with him not there. That's the point that matters. The conspiracy is that the defense was not acting as his advocate and thus violating his due process.\n\nThey could have asked for his case to be put to the back of the docket. And in practice that's what happened as they had him wait to call him up later.", "I put a scene in my new novel where the defense lawyer and the prosecutor are conspiring to send a character to jail. \n\nPeople were telling me that it was unrealistic. \n\nI'm saving this link for everyone who thinks that.", "She’s not a judge anymore I called", "As fake as the others as they may, it doesn't negate the severity of how the lies and falsehoods have an impact on people's lives, both in the cult and around the cult. This is Utah.", "I never asked for an entire lecture, I only wanted a short elaboration of it because I was genuinely curious. It could’ve been the same length as this jackass reply you typed up. \n\nI’m not even who you were arguing with so I see no need for you to have responded like that, though I’m not surprised based on your comments in that argument. I suppose you’re just that kind of person.", "So did you make an illegal turn or not?", "Hell I had to plead guilty to a sketchy trespassing charge cause I literally have no time to do the community service or stand trail 3 hours away. No signs on the path to an abandoned quarry swimming pool that’s been posted in the regional community colleges blog. All the cops that took dna and prints said that asshole is the only one enforcing it. Literally had half the bumfuck mining town court sectioned off for everyone…", "Thank you. Do you have a link? If that's actually true that he \"had to file his own motions\" cause his lawyer wouldn't so that it wouldn't go to trial, then he can take recourse against him. Again, I am skeptical of the claim though.", "Wow. Fuck these ~~people~~ demon spawn", "It’s not a matter of coke and Pepsi. It’s a matter of living in a racist shithole hellscape America vs Heaven Denmark. Why wouldn’t you risk everything for that journey, like your “shameful” grandparents did?", "yes field sobriety tests are still a thing. you never have to participate in one. they're not scientific at all, you can't pass if the cop wants you to fail.", "Or, y'know, an actual leader.", "Honestly I think he’s milking you suckers for his go fund me. Not sure he’s a good guy.", "But the court time was 9:00 and he got their at 9:07. So even had his attorney waited until 9:00, he still would have been late and still would have had a warrant put out for his arrest.", "The paperwork created by the same people who deleted and hid footage of his arrest? Sounds legit. If he was proven to have been drink driving then the court case would be over, they wouldn't be trying to collude with his lawyer and the judge to create a lie that prevents him from going to trial.", "Evidence is lost or destroyed pretty often, almost always due to incompetence. It inures to the benefit of the defendant.", "That guy is a loser and what you get is his side of the story. I am betting there is more to it, omitted of course, to try and swing sympathy for his drunk driving loser ass.", "Don’t forget it was the corruption of the police that put him in this situation in the first place", "Don’t forget it was the corruption of the police that put him in this situation in the first place", "Some people choose to try and shelter the people around them from harm. Like I said before, altruism. It's not a novel concept, and I really feel like you guys expressing bewilderment at it do not realize you are telling a lot more about yourselves than you intend to.", "This is disgusting behavior but my assumption is that they painted the picture of him always being late, so decided what to do in the event that he was late again(he was). They should have just discussed what to do in the event he was late again, rather than decide BEFORE he was actually late. This would have been lawful had they not done this ahead of 9:00. Afterall, he DID show up late again.", "I would calm down before you start throwing money at a dude because he alleged he’s the victim of a conspiracy just because it fits your world view about courts and the law.\n\nIt’s Donald Trump tactics frankly. Think for a second.", "You like to insult me with \"stupid\" and other insults. There is no need for that when you can just disagree and explain your point.\n\nKeeping drivers out of the drivers seat is not revenge, is prevention. They can show improvement with breath tests and dr visits for treatment. It's just far too dangerous to allow them to drive drunk freely without consequences. Similarly pedophiles are not let around children until they can show improvement. Rehabilitate, then allow... not allow while hoping for rehabilitation.", "It kind of depends on the county but this clearly looks to be a docket format, so his attorney should have been asked to be placed at the back of the docket.\n\nHowever his defense attorney clearly had somewhere to be and LEFT after calling it early so he could get to wherever he needed or wanted to be.", "> Unlawful imprisonment is a criminal offense and they should be charged as such.\n\nSo the unjust system of justice will decide to be just and punish itself?\n\nPower does not punish itself. Power does not willingly give up power. It must be taken, and the unjust must be punished.", "It is unrealistic.", "I did write in another post where I'm pretty sure they killed my grandma and Aunt I'm ex Mormon so I know", "Cringe", "Fair trial rights really aren’t implicated by this.", "It’s insane how quickly progressive types turned on public defenders as a whole in this thread.", "In QLD, Australia if you're released on bail you usually have to report to a police station on a regular basis, usually every day or every second day. If you don't turn up you have a warrant for your arrest issued. No upfront payment or anything. You just sign a piece of paper stating you will follow the rules", "Gotcha. Just making sure you weren't writing Mormons off just because they too are a cult. Sorry about what happened to your grandma and aunt. As an ex Mormon myself, I rarely can let these things go.", "Where in your article claims the warrant was issued after 9am? Because the judge clearly says its 8:45am in the discussion about the bench warrant.", "Keep reaching for perfection, my guy. The world needs more starry eyed idealists.", "Corruption for sure. How awful. I hope that 'judge' gets her due for being corrupt.", "Sweetie, they get pushed to plea deals because of this shit.", "All these \"representatives\" of justice should be properly charged, and held accountable for this blatant abuse of power and corruption.", "I advocate an alternative to a monopoly and all the well known problems inherent to monopolies. \n\nYou’re the one who requires hand holding to imagine the incentives people will need to participate in society without the threat of state violence.", "Goddam ugly ass Karen looking shit", "We need significant reforms, but there's a lot of instances where bail works. Think misdemeanors, maybe repeat offender, some history of minor violence.\n\nBail can easily be the difference in showing up and ghosting. But, the presumption should start at release with a higher bar to require bail.", "What the fuck are you on about ? I never said speeding tickets makes someone a criminal. \n\nBut if you’re talking about a speeding ticket and then say i have a clean record, it’s pretty fair to assume you mean clean *driving* record \n\n\nI’m not gonna research your dumbass claim about how many people have speeding tickets and I know you just pulled that out of your ass \n\neach state has their own laws with driving records btw...\n\n\nAnd you think you had the law on your side? Cause you were “getting up to highway speed” that’s not a fucking rule of the road , just like speeding to go with “flow of traffic”isn’t\n\n\nno wonder you lost your case \n\nAnd sorry man. But you’re the one that took the L here, along with your higher premiums\n\n\n\nAnd I cannot believe the cop actually showed up in court for this they usually no show and you just get it dismissed ..\n\nI’m guessing it was some po dunk town? and that their police is just “city revenue-generators”", ">He had missed many other appearances\n\nOne. Out of dozens over 5 years.\n\n> and been late to many others\n\nOne. Out of dozens over 5 years.\n\n>per the judge he had been warned at his previous appearance if he was late again a warrant would be served\n\nNope. Literally refuted by court records showing he was there, then the JUDGE rescheduled it. They heard and closed his case 15 minutes before it was scheduled. At a time when he was not supposed to be there. They said he was late, and issued a warrant, before his 9am trial. Had he shown up at 9am, nothing would have changed. They were already in the middle of another case.\n\n>so he knew this would happen, showed up late anyway, pikachu faced when he got arrested.\n\nNo, no, and no. Literally every one of the premises for your argument are false. Not only that, they are all refuted by the video you are commenting on. I have to hope you are just trolling with a u/ like that cus if not, the public education system has failed you.", "You don’t know what you’re talking about, but the beauty of that is you’ll never know you’re wrong. Keep being you.", "At least everyone at Walmart is there voluntarily and the Waltons never sent a thug to kneel on your chest until you die. Also never seen Walmart greeters gun down a person in a wheelchair.", "Ao you're agreeing the defense violated his due process. Because that's all that matters here. It's their job to defend him regardless of the circumstances.", "You think my grandparents were the puritans I'm referring to? Lmao. And I didn't call them shameful, no quotes necessary. \n\nI have looked into become a resident alien in the Scandinavian countries. It takes a lot more paperwork than my great×14 grandparents had to deal with so that they had the \"freedom\" to burn women at the stake and shit in a bucket.\n\n**Edit:** Also, didn't call America a racist shithole hellscape, lol. We call this a \"strawman\", a thing the right uses constantly. Make me look ridiculous by putting words in my mouth, and then say, \"WOW WHat A stupID LEFtIST\"", "My first court appointed attorney looked me in the face and told me that she was waiting to pull a judge who she knew would send me to jail (first offense) because she thought that's what I deserved. I was 19 and so alone and scared of the process I didn't think anything of it until, years later I told my mother and she lost her shit about it.", "Damn, it's so fucking sad. \n\n\nOut of the myriad of things to fear and worry about why does this have to apply to those who are supposed to protect us. \n\n\nThis system is so fucked.", "it literally says so in detail if you watch the video, they deleted all the footage of the arrest and what they didn't delete they claimed their bodycams \"malfunctioned\". Stop cucking for police and grow some balls like a true patriot.", "Everyone argues with me in comments this shit doesnt happen, fuck all of you this happens in most courtrooms just go to traffic court in a few counties. Its such a blatant scam for money it’s disgusting, just have your cops rob me while they pull me over, they already point a gun at me. so i dont have to sit in some courtroom for hours", "For sure. I was surprised I didn’t get one though. Like do I have to not have a job to qualify?", "What did we just see here?", "Still possession even if it’s inside your body.", "They did I'mply he was constantly late but then they admitted it only happened two other times. How do you feel about them lying about when the warrant was filed and lying about what time they noticed him walk in? Isn't that alarming to you?", "Seems to me you listed a bunch of cases where bail *doesn't* work. You want to keep people locked up for misdemeanors, unless they're rich enough to buy their way out or incur financial hardship going to a bondsman? Before they're found guilty?\n\nAnd you want to give people with a violent past the freedom to walk, if they can scratch enough money together?\n\nSounds like a bad idea to me.\n\nLike I said, I understand eliminating bail will cause some problems, but I don't think those are it.", "Also I think their initial claim on \"us being bound by the law of market\" assumes the USA is the only country in the multiverse.", "I don't. Although I don't see why he would go out of his way to lie about it? Seems lie about it.", "A few years ago i had a situation with an employer that i knew i could have sued and won, but i was so broke and living paycheck to paycheck at the time that i just brushed it off, and kept the job so that i wasnt on the street the next week. Not a month goes by that i dont think about that situation and wish id have gotten a lawyer. (I was working at a hospital and reported an employee for being rough with a patient. Many others knew he was routinely negligent, but i was the first person to file official complaint to management, and there are rules and laws that say you can do so confidentially. Well, my manager was a huge douche who just didnt get along with me, he tried various ways of trying to \"out me\" as the whistleblower like \"let me film you doing what he was doing to the patient so i can show the accused\", when i refused, my assistant manager got me late in the day to \"come talk to her\" and she took me upstairs to a conference room and when i opened the door, surpprise! It was my manager and the employee id made the complaint against. She lied about why she wanted to talk to me, and led me to the office under false pretenses. He was hoping that if he out me on the spot that id just drop it and say i made a mistake. So im there face to face with this guy with him burning holes through me, and cursing at me saying that he didnt do aything, and saying im full of shit etc. They didnt fire him. After that i had to work with this guy and it was a very toxic enviornment. He was fired a couple weeks later for an unrelated incident. After that, the manager (his friend) was out to get me and was interviewing employees trying to find ANY dirt on me. Everyone was angry, everyone knew it was wrong. I ended up getting written up for multiple bullshit accusations a month later and was given a \"final notice\" for write ups, even though id had zero write ups in four years. He was able to use one right up that featured multiple \"issues\" to make it count as four write ups at one time. So after that i was on final notice and was fired four months later for leaving five minutes early. Once. (Because final notice) i wasnt going to sue for how i was fired (although maybe i could have) but for ignoring confidentiality on reporting patient abuse and making me confront the coworker i reported. Makes me furious whenever i think about it.", "I see you got all your information from the video above, this video is actually heavily biased and taking it at face value is akin to how older people take fox news at face value.\n\nThe below link to a comment is by a redditor that read the actual court filings and summarized them quite well. This video is less than 10 minutes of coverage of a 5+year court proceeding and is presented through the bias of the editor. I know you may have similar feelings and might want to latch onto the side with your biases, I was on his side when id only seen the video as well, then I looked into this and did my own research after reading the below comment and came to agree with it against my own personal biases.\n\nhttps://www.reddit.com/r/SaltLakeCity/comments/p1qyqa/utah_defense_attorney_conspires_with_utah/h8gkjsq?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3", "Unless the time stamps are edited then the bench warrant was set before he was even supposed to be there, which is not legal.", "An edited video promoted by a self-interested litigant asking for money of a single court appearance in a DUI case with 3 years of history?\n\nI mean you can write facile trash if you want but “it’s unrealistic” would remain a valid critique. You’d think a writer would appreciate nuance but maybe that’s not your bag.", "I didn’t say anything about a conspiracy in my last comment. I’m just focusing on the quality of representation the defense attorneys provided. What justification can you assign to his own defense council making the statement “Let’s call it and get a warrant.” Followed up by ensuring his case was called ASAP. \n\nMaybe the defense attorney just woke up in the wrong side of the bed that morning and his kids ate the last bowl of his corn flakes, maybe there is nothing more to it than that. But does not make it ok for his own council to not just fail to provide proper representation. The defense council should be protecting the defendant’s innocence in the trial case. \n\nWas the defendant late? Yes. Was it his first time? No. Was he warned prior? Allegedly (probably). I conceded those points. \n\nIs it in the best interest of the defendant to make sure his case his called ASAP, regardless of it being at 845, 900, or even 930? No. Is it in the best interest of the defendant to have a bench warrant issued? No. \n\nSo why did his council actively take measures to make sure that happened? (because that is clearly what the audio indicates). Regardless of why they did it.. what it ok for them to do it? Ethically, morally, or even legally? I’m genuinely curious.. was it ok? I don’t think it was but I’m open to reasoning if you think it was.", "The judge agreed to issue the bench warrant for failure to show if he didn't show up, had be been there before 9 and they arrested him I'd be on your side, being there after 9 he has no recourse, he had been warned at his previous appearance that another late appearance would result in a warrant being issued, he showed up late regardless. I know this video did a great job of presenting this with a heavy liberal bias, I fell for it when I had only seen the video as well, but the video is less than 10 minutes of coverage of a 5+year proceeding and does not give us a full view of the case, the comment linked below does a good job of describing this case in more detail.\n\nhttps://www.reddit.com/r/SaltLakeCity/comments/p1qyqa/utah_defense_attorney_conspires_with_utah/h8gkjsq?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3", "This is very common, I have seen DAs do this to improve one case at the detriment of another. Very corrupt.", "Me declining to stroke your ego isn’t a reason for other people not to come here. I will maintain that YOU should be denied entry, you anti-capitalist, eagle-hating, bottom feeder. Here’s hoping someone crashes on your couch and spends the entire visit talking shit on you and your country of origin.", "This is tough because drunk driving should have more stiff penalties but also fuck this horrible system.", "> I really feel like you guys expressing bewilderment at it do not realize you are telling a lot more about yourselves than you intend to.\n\nHonestly lol'd at this because it's such a armchair psychologist thing to say based on so little info that folks on Reddit love to do. You do realize someone can be a good person without having to be a doormat right? I buy friends lunches at times, loan at money without them having to pay it back, and other small gestures but taking a drug charge for a friend and letting the friend steal from me? Fuck that. None of that is altruism, that's just being a doormat.", "It’s crazy to me when there are people committing crimes, yet people make up a a scenario as they are watching to justify it. Like we just saw them break the law let’s stay on that topic.", "Thats also the scariest part about all of this.", "This is one of the most vile, repulsive things I have watched.\n\nThe knowing smiles and laughter being the worst parts of it.", "Your mom said hi, and that she regretted not aborting you", "“good job dude” fucking lmao", "in the US you typically don't have to go to the police station or check in with anyone. You follow some very basic rules and show up to court when told to and that is it. The most basic rules are no drinking, no illegal drugs, no violent behavior, if you have a victim you can't contact them, if you have guns you have to hand them over to someone (in my state to anyone you want, you can't keep them or use them). \n\nthe monetary thing isn't there in a lot of bails. The biggest times it is needed is when the court has a hard time getting money out of someone, the monetary part helps get that cash or they won't get out of jail. Then they use the money to pay the fines you have been skipping out on.", "[https://www.kqed.org/news/11733744/fremont-destroyed-decades-of-police-misconduct-records-shortly-before-transparency-law-took-effect](https://www.kqed.org/news/11733744/fremont-destroyed-decades-of-police-misconduct-records-shortly-before-transparency-law-took-effect)\n\nTransparency law SB1421 passed in California requiring for greater public access to documents relating to police encounters involving use of force for more public oversight. California gave departments a few month \"grace period\" to let them gather documents for submission. In those few months the city of Fremont destroyed decades worth of old records as part of \"routine recordkeeping\". They were not the only city to engage in this.\n\nAlmost all police departments have polices for records retention and a schedule for record purging that require the destruction of documents after a few years (usually 5-10). For example, Section 913.11 \"Retention and Purging\" of the city of Redding's police personnel policies specify that after 5 years records of misconduct are AUTOMATICALLY DESTROYED unless the Chief of Police determines the records need to be kept.\n\nWhat other job in the world automatically destroys records of misconduct after a few years? Would you be okay with this being a policy for doctors? Your child's teacher? A judge?\n\n​\n\nCity of Redding Personnel Records Policies: [https://www.cityofredding.org/home/showpublisheddocument/22793/637117657001270000](https://www.cityofredding.org/home/showpublisheddocument/22793/637117657001270000)\n\nFremont destroying records:\n\n[https://www.kqed.org/news/11733744/fremont-destroyed-decades-of-police-misconduct-records-shortly-before-transparency-law-took-effect](https://www.kqed.org/news/11733744/fremont-destroyed-decades-of-police-misconduct-records-shortly-before-transparency-law-took-effect)", "Right, but they set these wheels in motion before he was late. They set these wheels in motion before he was supposed to be there. He could have walked in at 8:59 and it wouldn't have mattered because they were going to slow roll it the entire time. They made him wait and then claimed he showed up an hour and a half later then he really did. Do you really believe that they wouldn't still have done that had he showed up on time?\n\nWas he late? Yes, but that's not the real issue here. That's like missing the forest because you were focused on the leaf you saw on the ground.", "Yeah the first sentence in that comment was that it’s a clear case of the court being tired of his behavior. There’s a whole lot of speculation and a whole lot of forgiving the court for crimes that they committed.", "There are actual laws about coming to speed to free ways. Otherwise you would need to enter the freeway at 30mph from a city road. You say you can't research the facts but then bitch when I use them.\n\nAnd cop has to show up in court or the case is automatically thrown out. Again shows how little you know. And good thing for me my premiums didn't actually go up since again I had a clean driving record so it didn't hit my premiums. I have a clean criminal and driving record. I have already written this multiple times.. Driving records are expunged every so many years. I had nothing on my record and still have nothing on my record now. Clean record. \n\nHere's some stats for you since you say I pulled them out of my ass lol\n\nhttps://www.law-kc.com/9-surprising-speeding-ticket-facts/\n\n20% of the driving population a year get one. That's just speeding tickets. Not even other moving violations, and a year not a lifetime.", "America : \"we have justice but most of you can't afford it\"", "bail is monetary", "Lol I see you always watched the video yesterday of a cop who took a month long program and was able to “identify” people who were under the influence of something when it was obvious they weren’t only because he too was “an expert”", "You realize you can give somebody a second or third chance without *being* a doormat, right? It's not armchair psychology when you keep circling so obviously around your blind spot.", "You can shit in one hand, and want in the other. See which one fills up faster. 🤷🏻‍♂️", "There is no justice in america guilty until proven innocent while in jail good fucking luck", "To add to that, If you were to contest one, make sure to see the logs of when they service those things. If they haven’t serviced them in a while they will toss out your case", "Make everyone associated with law wear a non turn off video monitoring device. Anyone that gets appointed.", "Third world, banana republic of a country. How embarrasing.", "This is America.", "Well-said. This stuff is the essence of the term “Kafkaesque.”", ">You like to insult me with \"stupid\" and other insults. There is no need for that when you can just disagree and explain your point.\n\nI haven't called you stupid a single time. Don't start gaslighting and playing the victim. \n\n>Keeping drivers out of the drivers seat is not revenge, is prevention. \n\nWe arent just talking about \"keeping them out of the driver's seat\" we are talking about DUI sentencing as a whole. Also, what about revoking a habitual drunk driver's license is \"keeping them out of the driver's seat\"? You don't need a driver's license to physically operate a vehicle. Outside of 100 percent survailence, you cannot stop someone from driving drunk, which is why rehabilitation should be the only focus. \n\n>They can show improvement with breath tests and dr visits for treatment. \n\nThat's what we do already and *it doesn't work*.\n\n>It's just far too dangerous to allow them to drive drunk freely without consequences. \n\nNobody is suggesting or allowing that currently.\n\n>Similarly pedophiles are not let around children until they can show improvement. Rehabilitate, then allow... not allow while hoping for rehabilitation.\n\nDUI sentencing practices as they exist currently do not rehabilitate, do not disallow, and in fact encourage recidivism. That's not similar to your example at all.", "> You realize you can give somebody a second or third chance without being a doormat, right?\n\nI give people second or a third chance over something small, but a friend stealing from me after I take a drug charge for them which I could had ended up in jail for 2 years of my life? Yeah no, anyone who does that is a doormat. \n\n> It's not armchair psychology when you keep circling so obviously around your blind spot.\n\nOnly thing blind is your self esteem honestly if you think someone deserves a second or third chance if they did something like above.", "Typical Just-Us system at work here. Corruption. Kangaroo Courts. Show me one case anywhere in which actual justice occurs and I will give you a million dollars. Procedure is more important than ethics in these halls of shame.", "> bail is monetary\n\nno. A bail bond / secured bail is monetary.", "Wow, he has as huge lawsuit against all of them. Judge needs to be removed. The Bar should discipline all lawyers involved.", ">It isnt because the US is special\n\nWhich you follow by trying to explain why US is special... nothing that you said makes US special, it's just that you have been said it is special.\n\nNobody complains if you compare Germany with Norway, that's like 15 times the population. But according to you it is impossible to compare US to Germany since US has 4 times the population.\n\nAnd FYI German states are on average more populous than US states, are they too big to compare with US states? Should we compare German states with whole US instead? And they definitely have their own old culture.\n\nWhat about for example India? US states are tiny in comparison so how do you think India should be approached? And despite that you don't see people from India arguing how they are special.\n\nOh and the part about US-EU comparison: even if we included Canada and Mexico with US you'd still not approach the variety of EU. That's a silly notion.\n\nUS just is not as special as you and many Americans think it is. Isn't the fact that people outside of US don't think it's special a small clue about how things really are?", "That's about all I can tell you. walking by the cells, depending where you are, 2 beds, your toilet facing the giant window in the door, and a tiny 2 ft, ×1ft table all in a tiny cell. Seen the execution rooms. (Utah has death by firing squads still btw) enough said there. If you google new Utah state prison, there's some videos that give you glimpses here and there.", "When\n\nthe\n\nthing that you guessed turns out to be correct\n\nThat's abingo.", "7minutes. ~~A good~~ a breathing lawyer would do the devil to walk up to the judge and say \"hey he's 7 min late fuck em\"\n\nIt's not the only hearing that day. The judge Could and usually does call different cases first and tries later again.", ">Maybe they should not have been hanging out with their other gangster brothers in blue.\n\nThis is exactly the problem. Police literally have the same \"us vs them\" mentality as a street gang. If you're not a fellow cop you're a potential threat, and instead of being held to a higher standards by the rest of the legal system, the courts and DAs just let them be because they're on the same \"team.\"", "Thank you!", "Plus, this is the same legal system every single one of them will threaten to use when their neighbor's dog won't stop barking, or when the coach of the other team is overheard calling their precious snowflake a fuckwit. \n\nWhile it doesn't make the actions of the court right, the last time this video was posted someone mentioned that Mr Sanchez has been pulling bullshit with the courts for years. Filing motions, constantly firing and re-hiring public defenders, doing all sorts of wranglings to post pone his court date. The kind of guy that cons a priest into giving him some random religious exemption that only occurs on the dates he has to be in court.", "yes. bail. all bail around these parts are monitary , not sure where you come from.", "$5m or STFU imho. $45k is nothing compared to their crime. What they did is full-on corruption of the justice system. These people should be in jail.", "Same. Three arresting officers wrote three vastly different reports, used different times, and all sorts of non-corroborated info. My lawyer was a snake and a shark and I didn’t have the financial resources to fight it. Even though the entire case was built on a lie, I am now stuck with a violent resisting arrest record for life.", "Definitely I was just making sure this guy wasn't saying Mormonism was the only crazy fucking cult. That the Southern Baptists for example are not literal murdering racists.", "Please enlighten us", "What you gonna do? LOL", "There's no shortage of firms that will take on a large share of winnings as a form of payment. You'll probably get bugger all compensation afterwards but at least justice might be carried out.", "Welcome to the Utah justice system. Guilty untill proven innocent. It's a god damn shame judges, prosecutors, and lawyers have the power to ruin someone's life just like that.", "Fair enough. However, the video evidence here is *extremely* damning for the courts regardless of whether the dude is guilty or not. As someone who actually lives in Utah, it would be nice for there to be a way to contribute in getting these assholes out of the system. A tall order, I know.", "Where is the Utah Bar Association in this matter? He did not receive zealous representation from his attorneys.", "It’s hard to get media attention.", ">the judge said he was waiving all my penalties but would still enter a verdict of guilty. \n\n>Essentially meaning I didn't have to pay anything...\n\n>but my insurance would still go up.\n\nAlso you:\n\n> good for me my premiums didn't actually go up since again I had a clean driving record you dumb fuck.\n\n\nSorry? My bad that I read the words on your original post and didn’t know that in reality you didn’t have any penalty or that insurance increase you indicated as the penalty didnt actually happen ..\n\n\n> There are actual laws about coming to speed to free ways. Otherwise you would need to enter the freeway at 30mph from a city road.\n\nYeah.... there’s these things called “on-ramps” \n\n\n\n> You say you can't research the facts but then bitch when I use them.\n\nResearch the fact that 90% of drivers have a driving ticket ? \nFuck that. You can provide evidence for that dumb ass statement you made otherwise \n\n> And cop has to show up in court or the case is automatically thrown out.\n\nLastly, that’s literally what I just wrote:\n\n**”I cannot believed the cop showed up in court they usually just no show and it gets dismissed”**\n\n\nIn other words, that cop wanted to fuck you over so bad he ACTUALLY fucking showed up in court to make sure he got you.", "Exactly, if it were me I'd email and call every local news station.\n\nI've done so before on a much smaller matter and despite covid taking the spotlight, journalists calling asking questions was enough to shake the tree. \n\nHelps if you can find a compiled list of journalists emails.", "If I thought I was above the law like all these fucks then you’d have something to worry about. But I don’t and I’m not. \n\nThis is the equivalent of a judge saying “Your sentence is life in prison. But if it were up to me, you’d ….blah blah blah..”. \n\nSo what I said in the first part, as a hypothetical judge, is the sentence. What I said in the second part is a personal thought that would never be carried out.", "Man why you post this. Shit got me so heated lol. There's a video of the victim answering 5 most asked questions as well. You can find it by clicking on the description", "That’s totally what I said. Learn to read.", "That cop showed up in court because he got paid to be in court. Simple as that. I have family who are cops, yes indeed I know it's hard to believe, and they tell me they will show up any chance they can because it's easy money to them. They get paid to be there and it's 3 hours of time to basically do nothing. \n\nAlso, you quoted yourself there not me. I didn't say I can't believe he showed up wtf lol. I fully expected him to be there because the prosecutor told me ahead of time dates the cop was available because they wanted to make sure they worked for both of us...", "I genuinely pity you.", "When it comes to fines, where I am at least, you can set up payment plans. If you don't at they will suspend your driver's licence or prevent you from having a licence. In extreme situations they will jail you, it's roughly 1 day for every $137. \n\nI had my husband pay back $10,000 in fines at a rate of $50 a week. As long as you're paying something they don't worry you at all.", "Residential schools, mobile phone oligopoly, housing market, job market, Alberta, cost of living, cost of transportation, the weather, asbestos, the Queen, education cost, government monopoly on weed, liquor laws…\n\nAll that being said, I love Canada. Some are real issues, some are more tongue-in-cheek.", "Bold of you to assume I didn't want shit in my hand.\n\nCheckmate", "Clear their name, get a tiny check and make the fuckers pay is all most people want and anything past that is just gravy.", "It is really hard if you don't try, the worst they can say is no. Local news are a lot like vultures so throw them a bone.", "Because the government employees and bar associations do nothing. The Utah Bar Association should file a complaint against all the lawyers involved. The public integrity section of the U. S. Attorneys’ Office must file a case for Color of Law violations, 18 U.S.C. 242.", "> yes. bail. all bail around these parts are monitary , not sure where you come from.\n\nWhere is this? The vast majority of the country in the US not like this.", "Doesn't surprise me. When I was 18, I got pulled over for speeding. Got my ticket and was allowed to go on my way. Later the same evening, the same cop pulled me over, pulled me out of the car and arrested me. Turns out, someone with the same name as me (I have a very common name) had their license felony revoked (and it's a felony to drive on a felony-revoked license), and a mixup meant I spent two nights in jail before being let out on my own recognizance (they refused to believe me that my license had never been suspended).\n\nEven after I explained this to my court appointed attorney, he tried to get me to plea bargain down to a misdemeanor. When I refused, my attorney made me do ALL the legwork in proving my case. I had to find the judge, and have him sign an affidavit that he had never seen or sentenced me for anything, and then I had to find a ride (I sure as hell wasn't driving) almost 2 hours back to court and show this judge the paperwork. Only then did my attorney show any interest.\n\nThis guy should be disbarred. \n\nOh, and fuck Clatsop County, OR.", "It certainly *looks* bad and I have no doubt they’ve been thoroughly chewed out for not being smarter about how this would look.", "When I was 19 my friend got into a fight and was charged with assault. He plead guilty because the police informed him that they had spoken to his friend (me) who told them that he instigated the fight. It’s in a written police report. Only thing is, I never spoke with the police at all. They came by my house and left a card, so they knew I was there somehow. But I never called them or spoke to them. They lied to my friend and he plead guilty and spent 60 days in jail and it ruined our friendship. It was only 10 years later that he actually was willing to speak to me so I could tell him that the police lied to him and falsified their report and he fell for it. We’re friends again now, but their lie cost him 60 days in jail and 10 years of friendship.", "Ain't nobody getting rid of nothing untill we all get out there and vote for the right people to change laws to reflect what we feel is right.", "The closest thing you have to an argument is \"them being all racists,\" yet still everything you wrote is made up outrage.\n\n>How many of these people claim to be \"Christian\" and go off to ruin people's life, seem to be for the fun of it? How many of them are Mormons?\n\nWhat was there to indicate anyone's religious beliefs? Why even bring Christianity or Mormonism into it?", "i live in NY where bail was reformed last year , no more bail. monitary or otherwise", "Exactly, works out for everyone.", "Can people please stop parroting state propaganda about social credit scores? The system you describe for individuals literally doesn’t exist, and you don’t need to go to an obscure source to find that out:\n\nhttps://foreignpolicy.com/2021/09/15/china-social-credit-system-authoritarian/\n\nI know this is mind blowing, but US media lies about China all the time", "Illegitimate? What are you talking about, you broke the law. That's a different situation than mine, you were given some leeway. They wanted you to learn a lesson but didn't necessarily think your wallet had to be impacted. What's the alternative? You have to go to court either way, they just saved you the $400 that comes with the ticket. Sorry, I just don't understand your gripe.", "Contact the U.S. Attorney’s Office for Utah and report Color of Law violations under 18 U.S.C. 242. https://www.justice.gov/usao-ut", "This. This very thing. The prosecutor/court appointed attorney=seems to me like the same person by how my “court appointed attorney” has treated me. They get away with it because after so many times of telling and retelling all facts, no one believes you or no one that can help will due to how freaking hard it is to keep up with everything. Tell the truth and you won’t have to remember anything right? Not if you’re constantly defending yourself and explaining lies of a team of people against you. Like what we see here.", "RIP all their other cases as they will be reopened and how many criminals will be back on the street. This is fcked.", "I have no idea when the prosecutor actually knew when he got there and neither do you or the person who narrated the video. If he lied then shame on him but it has no bearing because the same punishment can be given regardless if it was 0907 or 0939. Lying about when the warrant was filed?? Do you know when it was actually filed? Got a court transcript? There is nothing wrong with them saying to issue a warrant before someone is late if they expect him to be late and he is then late. If he wasn't late, the warrant wouldn't have been issued. I don't understand what the issue is.", "Karma will come soon to all of those that played part in it and karma is a bitch all we have to do is sit back and watch", "\"Try to force me to remove the video from the internet\" holy shit how dense can you get. It's already out you asshats! It's too late for damage control, the video is already out there, shared by millions of people! Theres more than one copy, more than two, theres potential *millions* of copies, and taking down the original ain't gonna do shit. How out of touch are these cops?", "America your entire legal system is an absolute fucking joke", "He talked to The female lawyer right after arrival. She refused to confirm that while the judge and prosecutor lied.", "Sorry. I wasn’t trying to compare our situations. The alternative would be not writing the ticket if you know nothing is going to come of it. I wasn’t aware turning in a turning lane without your blinker on is unlawful.", "The thing that always makes me fucking nauseous is, if they got caught doing it this blatantly, how many times did they do it and not get caught?", "Every single person from judge to bailiff to prosecutor in this video needs to be fired.", "I get that. I didn't downvote you, for the record. \n\n\nBut now we're at the point where we almost certainly have to admit the political process has mostly failed, and we understand that vigilantism will just escalate violence and likely solve nothing. \n\n\nSo what is the middle ground?", "Sorry, I was being aggressive. I thought you were one of those people that can't accept fault in their own actions, blaming everyone else for their problems. Sounds like I made an unfair assumption. \n\nWhen you turn you have to use your signal, period. Even if there's nobody for miles. Annoying, but that's the law. The cop in this case was doing you a favor, it's a very common tactic. I think they call it an \"inconvenience ticket\" or something like that, it's a punishment but not one that could really hurt you.", "We also have way too many laws.", "There have been significant debates over the legality of a 3rd party due to their infringement on officers personal rights. I’m not taking a side, just saying thats why it isn’t there yet.", "I know what you wrote, I'm saying it's fucked up and unreasonable. You need to chill out and stop being a cunt.", "This is the main disease plaguing America, laziness. These lawyers were just plain lazy, they wanted him to plead guilty because essentially they were lazy. Pathetic.", "This is a funny response to me because when I was doing yard work earlier I was thinking about exactly this and if I could request all footage of an interaction I had with police last year and how long they might keep such records. Sounds like the winds were blowing in the same direction for us. Anyway, thanks for the reminder. I'm going to actually look into it.", "I figured you were one of those \"He CrOsSeD StAtE LiNeS WiTh An AsSauLt rIfLe\" folks. \n\nRegardless, I don't see why him crossing state lines means anything, anyway. It doesn't matter where he lives. The incident occurred in Wisconsin so Wisconsin law applies.", "Haha I appreciate the clarification.", "Bro At the very latest his attorney talked to him at 9017 and refused to speak up about it. Did you not notice that? There was no reason at all to have the warrant issued at 0845. That's 15 minutes before anything was even supposed to happen. The warrant was issued 15 minutes before he was set to enter. And then the judge said the warrant was issued well after 0900. Even if he showed at 5 minutes before 0900 it wouldn't have mattered since the warrant was already issued.\n\nEdit: watch this it will answer your questions https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VJj-KKrGkE&t=302s\n\nI don't understand why you're acting like Mr sanchez is the one being caught lying", "How so?", "I got picked on a PI charge a few months back. I freely admit I was stumbling, as I just started to relearn to walk. I couldn't make it down the hospital corridor a few months before. But I made the stupid decision to walk three miles, because I couldn't find my car keys and it was time to pick up my daughter (thankfully her grandma picked her up that day). So when they arrest me, they didn't do a breathalyzer or any field sobriety test, hell he didn't even run my ID. \n\nSo after I am let out of the drunk tank, I figured I had this beat. Nope, Texas law says they don't need to prove your drunk, it's all on the cops word. They apparently use this law for harassing people, and it's considered very controversial. Luckily I have some contacts with local DA's and even the judge's advice (not at trial, just friendly advice) was to just plead no contest and get differed adjudication. It's crazy they give so much power to your only accuser.", "I’m from Utah and can confirm this is true. There are several cities here that are notorious for corruption. When I was 17 my friends and I were charged with “Destruction of Municipal Property” because we were walking passed a playground. The playground happened to have a broken slide and police said they witnessed us destroying it… even though we were nowhere near. Later, the grounds keeper of the park even confirmed it had been broken for weeks. We were all charged with a felony and then they offered a plea bargain; if we plead guilt they would reduce the charges to a misdemeanor and we’d pay a fine. Between the four of us the fine would have covered the cost to replace the slide. My family paid for an attorney who told us that Davis County police do this often. They arrest kids and charge them with crimes knowing that they can scare them into pleading guilty and get them to pay fines so they can reduce tax spending. I plead Not Guilty and my attorney was able to get them to drop all charges. But my three friends all plead guilty and paid a huge fine. Utah police are piles of fucking dog shit.", "Your honor, I’m just a simple hyper chicken from a backwoods asteroid…", "We need to how do i put this, re do our justice and law enforcement from the ground up, with new ppl. Ages from 30 to 55. Anything under 55 get the hell out.", "I can tell you want to, so why don't you just go ahead and let me have it.", "The key lie here is they said they issued the warrant after the case was called when it was recorded that was not the case", "Where is the link for the gofundme?", "Lack of training is only the tip of the iceberg.", "Return to monke", "And they say trust the system. Fuck that shit. You will never find my ass in a court room for anything more than a parking ticket.", "Wait, what's wrong with that quote? I'm genuinely curious.", "Also that's only 13", "That's bizarre. So, they initially agreed with his point, but now after seeing a quote that he made a while ago, they have decided they no longer like this person, therefore they also disagree with the point that they agreed with only moments ago? That is literally just an ad hominem fallacy...\n\n\n\nWell, this is Reddit. I'm not sure why I'd expect any different.", "> A miscarriage of justice for sure.\n\nBack-alley coathanger abortion, more like.", "Very. I have a case pending in federal district court against the government. The government conceded last year that there were Anti-deficiency Act (ADA) violations by the government involving the operation of food trucks with no statutory authority. https://www.agrimarketing.com/ss.php?id=101041 As far as I can determine none of the federal employees who committed the violations have had any personnel actions taken against them and nothing has been filed with GAO. The Antidefiency Act requires a report be filed with GAO and personnel actions be taken. https://www.gao.gov/products/b-332675. U.S. Attorney’s Office even after conceding the ADA violations, has done nothing to enforce the law.", "5 years…. This feels like a big fat turd on the sixth amendment.", "Yeah, I wasn’t the person offering to list 50, and I’m lazy. I’m sure I could come up with 50, but they’d get super nit-picky.", ">Ethically, morally, or even legally? I’m genuinely curious.. was it ok? I don’t think it was but I’m open to reasoning if you think it was.\n\nIts good to look at this from both a legal and ethical component in terms of what the defendant is entitled to. \n\n\nLegally, he is entitled to an attorney that doesn't commit malpractice - and that's about it. Not an attorney that gets you a good deal, not even an attorney that tries their best - or even one that gives your case much attention. That's about it. \n\n\nEthically, you can argue that you're entitled to a public defender that at least does their best given the circumstances. \n\n\nThing is - if you're a public defender - you probably have more clients than you can really handle - because your office is almost definitely underfunded. Some of them will be reasonable people that made a mistake, some will be truly innocent of the charges, and some will be assholes that are obviously guilty but refuse to listen to your advice, and convince themselves they can escape any consequences. \n\n\nSo in this case, the lawyer tells his client to take a deal. Given the context from what i read - the case is probably a lost cause. Maybe he really is innocent and just up against strong evidence, but more likely he's guilty and doesn't want to accept that. The defendant says no, I want to go to trial. \n\n\nOk. In reality this means the defender has to spend his time preparing for and arguing a lost-cause trial for a guy that he thinks is probably guilty of drunk driving. This means the attorney has less time to spend on cases where people actually listen to his advice, and people who actually have a chance of winning their trial. \n In the vast majority of cases, the defendant insisting on fighting it makes things worse for everyone - the attorney, other defendants, and themselves. It drains resources from the system. But hey - he has a right to an attorney, and he has the right to a trial. That's how the system works. \n\n\nSo you spend a few years working on the case, because the defendant was adamant about going to trial against advice of counsel. Fine. But now the defendant who is demanding that everyone put in this extra work so he can go to trial ... starts coming in late. One day he doesn't even show up to his own hearing. \n\n\nAt this point, you retain your legal right to counsel but basically forfeit your ethical rights to any substantial defense. \n\\-You aren't listening to your attorney, you're putting more strain on the system and making everyone else work harder for you - but you're not willing to give enough of a shit to show up on time? \n\n\nOk fine. You're going to get what you're legally entitled to, but nothing else. Show up late again and go to jail. \nNow he's hiring an attorney to try and get a payday out of his public defenders, and almost certainly is going to waste a ton of his own money because he refuses to accept any culpability in his own actions.", "Not so fast. They will just call you an \"enlightened centrist\" instead of actually addressing your point because it makes them too uncomfortable to realize they might need to rethink things for a moment. Cognitive dissonance is a hell of a drug.", "Right... But surely you'd make the effort to be early for any court case? Even if you subsequently had to wait around all day - don't give the judge any reason to be annoyed at you.", "Don’t ruin everyone’s outrage porn with facts, man! /s\n\nSeriously, I don’t understand what the court did that was wrong. If he had been to court on time, literally none of this would have happened. If he had rolled in at 7:50 and they said “oh shit bro, we have a bench warrant for you signed 10 min in the future,” that would have gone nowhere fast.\n\nCourt is a big fucking deal. Show up on time. Fuck, show up early. It baffles me that people will wait in line for hours for concert tickets, but then stroll in 7 minutes late to a criminal hearing where they could go to jail.", "I mean I'll admit with America i've got a leg up there's like what 10 kardashians?", "WOAH!!!!! WTF?!?!", "But he’s a member of the lost tribe…..", "Yeah lol. So much so that in places like Cleveland, OH the police now have what they have been asking for all this time by obstructing justice at every chance they get.\n\nhttps://www.cleveland.com/election-results/2021/11/cleveland-voters-approve-issue-24-boosting-civilian-oversight-of-the-police-department.html\n\nHopefully community oversight spreads. Defunding won't fix a problem that needs to be solved. Not the right way anyway. You just have to let the public decide that if what the police use to \"protect and serve\" is worth the investment we're putting into it.\n\nIt's a real life version of \"Police hate the one simple trick!\".", "You say its a whoosh but it brings up a real question; this money isnt leaving the country itself so why can it still feel so poor in areas while a few can prosper so hard here", ">show me his court date paperwork\n\nSo you didn't watch the video then. Got it.\n\n>Unless he is full of shit \n\n[He isn't.](https://youtu.be/d6i1D_MI_Gs?t=319)\n\nSo why are you ignoring the facts of the case?\n\n> gullible idiots\n\nLike you?", "I never said Sanchez was caught in a lie. He is guilty of being late, and if he would have gotten there before 0900, the warrant wouldn't have been issued and you would never hear about this. I'll watch your link when I get time.", "The judge is primarily at fault here. She issued a warrant before they even started hearing cases. The lawyer should be disbarred as well for conspiring to falsely charge him as well.\n\nAnd shame on them all for LAUGHING about it. This is someone’s life you’re dealing with. Screw you for laughing about it dishonorable judge!", "Sure, but they ain't in it either. \n\nIf you make you money by trading your time/labor then you ain't in the club", "I've actually been through something similar, a really frustrating experience.\n\nLuckily it panned out, I stuck to my guns, had a private attorney and talked to them about the issues previously. They didn't believe me until the incident I was dealing with happened and I wouldn't take no for an answer.\n\nTurned out it was a pattern of behavior that was already being investigated and the situation I was in pushed it to the top.\n\nI'm glad this guy is following up. I couldn't imagine how difficult Utah is to deal with on something like this.", "You're retarded. Sorry to be so up front, but holy shit.", "So sad. This is peoples lives you are playing with.", "What people need to do is look at the arresting officer and all the people who are protecting t\nHim.", "I have no idea lol", "As if that wasn't bad enough, reading the other linked stories in that article this guy has a string of unjustified use of force in 2 officer involved shootings and unlawful search and seizure\n\nAnd here this guy is looking for dashcam footage that apparently wasn't working and other evidence that was wrongly deleted \n\nHope he gets a proper defence because this is just a chain of bad shit", " No way that bailiff stands there all day every day and doesn't know what is going on there.", "America has a LEGAL system, not a justice one.\n\n😞", "Someone get Legal Eagle to react to this.", "This deserves jail time. How can you do such injustice to the system and not serve severe repercussions", "If the cop wants to give you a DUI it won’t matter what the breathalyzer says. I was pulled over after having a drink at a fundraiser for work. I didn’t even have a buzz and I was honest with the cop so I told him I had a drink. He then goes through the field sobriety tests and passed everything except he said he could see in my eyes that I was drunk when he shined his light pen in my eyes and said look this way and that. So I’m read my rights and hand cuffed then put in his car. He decides to search my car and finds nothing, but he took his sweet time so nearly 45 minutes passed before he brought me in to do the breathalyzer test. He waited the mandatory 15 minutes then I took the test. I blew a 0.03. Thinking I’m in the clear and just getting a ticket for some BS he says ok time to take you to jail. \n\nAfter two years and more money than I ever spent in my life I had to plead guilty, it would not go on my record and I could keep my license. Needless to say I was out about 10,000 and had to miss about fifteen days of work for all the hearings and meetings because the cop was an “expert” and he knew I was drunk when he pulled me over but not when I took the breathalyzer. So if the cop wants you there is nothing you can do. This is when I learned when you get pulled over don’t say anything and refuse any “tests” no matter what.", "This is why I cannot and will not stand behind the police and most of our government. The whole body is just crooked and dishonest. I truly hope Mr. Sanchez gets his justice and I would love to see him get reimbursed for everything out of these crooked people’s wallet!", "I agree with a lot of this but where it falls apart for me is everyone verbally talks about the time 8:45 when they call the case. But when questioned by Mr Sanchez they keep saying it was after 9am. They then speak about adjusting the time on the record later. This lends a lot of credence to the claim that his case was at 9:00. Regardless of what time he showed up they seem to have purposefully called his case and issued a warrant before the defendant was due to appear. \n\nIf it wasn’t for the discrepancy of when they called it and when they told him they called it I’d be far less suspicious.", "The link shows proof that the warrant was issued at 0845 \n\n15 minutes before any of the 40 trials were set to begin that day.", "My guess is that bald lawyer who was the defendants representation in the dumpy looking suit was looking for an excuse to get out of being there entirely so he didn’t have to spend the day in court.", "\"developed nation\". Getting pretty loose when talking about the US.", "Gaslighting to its fullest, by the gov agencies, by lawyers, by police.", "How do you destroy evidence that has already been entered into a case?", "What’s funny is just watching 3 minutes of this I can tell this is common practice and is disgusting that people abuse any bit of power they have been trusted with your soiling the very thing your supposed to uphold the law! And I’m sure non of these people have been affected at all and still hold their positions regardless of all the lives they’ve ruined and are still going on just like this to this day, disgraceful.", "The point of his analogy is that thought crime isn't a think, you fucking dunce. Thinking or having a desire to do something illegal is not illegal. It's only illegal once you actually do it.", "More like an abortion of justice", "It was a legitimate question, don’t be an asshole.", "It's broken. At least for the little guy. Ruining lives everyday, they must be proud.", "You're doing a disservice to the accused. Take your jury duty- and then refuse to convict on the word of a police officer alone. If we all did what you did then the juries would consist of no one but people with Blue Lives Matter flags.", "Except the vaccine of course you have to take that 🤡", "Probably a pubic defender tbh. Our system is so broken", "He was issued a warrant for being late 15 minutes before he was even supposed to arrive. That looks more than bad.", "That is different they lied to him that's allowed believe it or not. Seriously doubt that was in the official report, the got a confession so that's all they need. Rule #1 never talk to the cops without an attorney present.", "TL;DW?", "What happened to her? Did she get punished for this?", "It’s not just America, America sees the least of it. Or at least it’s waaay better hidden. Look at other countries, some of them are so outright in their corruption. Just saying", "Don't, you need it for yourself when you realize how foolish your opinion is.", "Or they can plow through a christmas parade killing 6-7 and injuring 40+.", "It’s not a justice system, it’s a legal system. The laws aren’t there to seek justice, they are there to protect the state and its interests.", "Do you not think it would have dispensed with if he got there in time? They tried to frontload work with the expectation that he would be late... and then he was late. Like what actual injustice was done here? He was punished for being late. Was he late or was he not late? He was. So what the fuck is the issue?", "A corrupt judge is the most dangerous criminal of all.", "That's just fucking dirty holy shit.", "That's the point, if they erase it before it's ever made it into a court case, then legally it was never evidence.", "Sounds like something a rat fucker lawyer would say. \n \nSophistry.", "\"Why did he show up so late?\" - some loser who was probably at the Jan. 6 insurrection.", "Sadly I am aware that they’re allowed to lie (which is also fucked up). I never saw the office report obviously since I never actually spoke to anyone. But my friend told me he saw it in the report. However, it had been 10 years when I finally spoke to him again. So it’s certainly possible that he misremembered exactly how the lie played out.", "Clown world indeed brother.", "Yep", "It’s just not a trial question.\n\nThink you mean to say due process", "This wouldve started a revolt but ppl are normalized ppl arenjus like welp sucks ig nun we can do when that FAR from the case", "No I don't. They lied in the video about what time the warrant was issued and his attorney failed to correct the prosecutor in what time he was there. He was punished before he committed a crime in the pretense that he would commit the crime and then the court lied about the timing of everything. Why would the court feel the need to lie if they didn't do anything wrong? \n\nCan they even wave a wand like that and remove a warrant after it's been issued?", "That’s not really what the video actually shows, that’s his editorializing.\n\nA 3 year old dui trial? DUIs go to trial in 8 months typically. 3 years means he’s been fucking around. Probably missed a bunch of prior court dates and has been non compliant with pre trial.\n\nIt looks bad.", "Did the judge, any of her staff, or any of those attorneys get fired, suspended or barred from the practice of law?", "Wow fuck all them people, that’s what garbage looks like. Some of the worst human beings on this planet. I hope they all lose their jobs, are sued for everything and serve some serious time.", "Not surprised that this is Utah, the whole state is corrupt from the Governer to the AG (I know the governers family personally).", "I’m pretty sure that 100% not how it works.\nhttps://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/25/11.440\n\nAlso, once again, how would that even happen? They break in the police station, get in the evidence room and start burning shit down?", "You might know what I wrote but you clearly didn’t understand what I was saying. \n\nBut thanks for pointing out the difference.", "Apparently the best way to get people to show up to court is to call/text/email them the day before.", "Is this a JoJo reference?", "Also excess funds to flee", "Not enough defense for the pubic hairs", "Their word means less than the word of the average person.", "He missed one court appearance and was late one other time. The reason it's dragged on so late is because he's been trying to aquire evidence of the actual DUI and attempt to go to trial. The cop that issued the arrest is a serious bad apple. Get high on drugs and crash his cruiser bad. And there appears to be a lack of evidence of the DUI. There is a follow up video showing they issued the warrant 15 minutes before he was even set to appear.", "Considering their the ones trying to prosecute the defendant (as in brought the defendant to trial) their word should mean less than anyone elses. There is an inherent conflict of interest, especially if the case could be used in a wrongful arrest case if acquitted.", "The removal of monetary bail is one of those things everyone seems to agree with until it comes to actually doing it. \n\nLots of places in the US have moved to replace monetary bail, but the voters usually come out against it the moment they realize it'll result in more people being released and a higher probability of some of them reoffending. \n\nIt becomes a huge NIMBY issue.", "> until all involved lose their jobs\n\nOn the SLLDA website, one of the lawyers is still listed as being employed. His wildly grinning face plastered on the site is remarkably punchable. \n\nEdit: Meanwhile, the other lawyer is now working at the Utah AG's office in ... wait for it...the civil rights department", "Some of these nonprofit law firms are absolutely fucked up. I've volunteered with a lot of great legal aid organizations over the years, but I've also seen a few that were full of nothing but scammers and grifters looking to suck up donations/tax dollars and do nothing in return. \n\nSometimes they're even sadistic enough to *hurt* the people they're supposed to be helping, like in this video, which is crazy. It's not bad enough to do a totally half-assed job? You have to fuck your client over completely? *Why?*", "What's new?", "It was one of 40 cases set to start at 0900. Although I'm not very familiar with how common it is for people to show up right on the dot for those. Do you have experience with them?", "And honestly even giving officers the biggest benefit of the doubt. They are testifying about a specific event that may be very similar to other events they encounter many times a month. It’s easy for details to bleed together. A random witness depending on what the event was has a much better chance to remember it more accurately since it might be the first and only time they saw something like it. Best case I’d treat cops as a biased witness since I bet if they answered honestly they have a stake in whether the person is convicted or not.", "Suing the government is a nightmare, even with a slam dunk case.", "The prosecutor is guilty of at least lying because he saw the guy 30 minutes before he told the judge he had seen him.", "They’re acting like it’s a game not a persons life", "I still don't understand why you think I travel around the world 'talking shit'... You are a prime example of why most, yes, most people around the world not only hates USA and the government, but they also find Americans unbearable, loud, obnoxious and out right not someone you wanna deal with at all... Americans are just.. Unlikeable and wery fake... \n\nUnlike, say Russians.. I don't like the Russian government, but the Russian people are so kind and easy going, smart, hospitable and in general likeable. And I have experienced the same in many countries; Iran, Syria, Cuba, Kazakhstan... Same; bad government, good people..\n\nBut America.. Well.. It is a bad country full of bad people..\n\nAs you prove over and over again.. First you go bat shit crazy and decide that 'this guy must be an asshole because he mentioned health care in a rural Alabama'.. Then.. What was it.. I was an asshole for having interesting topics with a Syrian family...\n\nAt this point I am starting to understand that you are an asshole! And not particularly bright!\n\nAlso... I have people on my couch all the time because I am a couchsurfer! Last wisitor was a highly religious guy from Italy and we discussed religion several nights.. And even though he found it extremely weird, out right stupid, that I didn't belive in God, we got along well for his three night stay...\n\nSo.. I am not an American, remember, so I am not so insecure about by neither my political nor my religious views! Chatting with people with highly different wievs than me is just enlightening..\n\nI am not an asshole, you however, are absolutely an asshole!", "No one deserves to be arrested for not being able to enter their courtroom due to it being full.", "This video contains information that is blatantly and inarguable false. The person that uploaded it should be ashamed for including such an indefensible mistruth. The only saving grace is that they waited until the video was 90% through before claiming that Katherine Bernards-Goodman is an *Honorable* Judge. The entire 9 minutes prior to that shows her to be anything but honorable.", "this is straight up malpractice, maybe worse. \n\nDA and PD need a suspension at the very least, judge needs a ding on their record, probably worse. \n\nthis is why people dont trust pigs, lawyers, or judges. \n\nsource: im a fucking lawyer.", "Life sentence? Are you insane?", "Honestly charges should be made against them and every case they have ever participated on should be reassessed for misconduct.", ">But then I realized, they'd be deemed \"not a flight risk\" and only minorities would end up in jail with no way to bail. So yeah, we don't want that.\n\nHi, I’m a white guy who was held without bail, on false charges, after my first arrest. Please stop spreading this bullshit race-baiting narrative. You’re only alienating white people (or people who give a damn about truth in general) from the cause of judicial system reform.", "Hope they all get disbarred. What a joke of a judge too!", "I mean the guy still showed up after 9 and was getting the warrant issued regardless, he had been warned at his last appearance that if he was late again this would happen, and while the prosecutor could be lying he may also have time blindness, or any number of perception altering effects could have happened that make any eyewitness unreliable, like seeing a clock 20 minutes after an event but perceiving it to be almost immediately after.\n\nYou can read the below comment for some info on this, the video above is incredibly biased and heavily edited, it shows less than 10 minutes of coverage of a 5+year case.\n\nhttps://www.reddit.com/r/SaltLakeCity/comments/p1qyqa/utah_defense_attorney_conspires_with_utah/h8gkjsq?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3", "Well he is late again.", "The title is misleading. He didn’t have a defense lawyer, he had a filthy public defender who is paid by the state and works for the state. There is a difference.", "This is so unbelievably scummy and crooked and I am not surprised one bit. It’s horrible.", "That’s two prior FTAs. That he admits to. Curious about pre trial like I said.\n\nThat doesn’t take 3 years by the way. Requesting discovery. They have it or they don’t. If they destroyed the evidence, it inures to his benefit, so frankly he should be pumped they fucked up.\n\nIt looks like they called the case early. Doesn’t mean that’s when the warrant issued.", "That's a private attorney at a nonprofit criminal defense firm that probably does 100% of its billing via court-appointed clients. Quite a racket.", "No you're misunderstanding me. \n\n> A person commits a misdemeanor if, believing that an official proceeding or investigation is pending or about to be instituted, he or she:\n\nIf there is no open investigation then they can just delete it. Because it is not considered evidence.", "You're making assumptions about the trial .The transcript shows the warrant was issued at 0845 and the judge lied by saying it was issued well after 0900.", "Let's all send this to John Oliver or Jon Stewart. They might be able to get attention to this issue.", "No shit it’s Utah.", "In utah getting a DUI is basically attempted murder. Which is most likely why they were willing do to this to him.", "So this man's life is effectively being ruined for... nothing.", ">organized and well funded\n\nNow, hypothetically, if someone were to want to run a campaign of vigilante justice in a modern surveillance state like say, China, you don't want to be organized on a large scale or have any central funding. At most a cell should consist of maybe five or six people. Any larger and they should split and cut contact with the new cells. That way one arrest can't unravel the entire network like we've seen happening in the Pedo Island cases. And while it would be criminal to commit a DDOS or similar attack, unaffiliated individuals could, in theory, significantly muddy the digital waters by generating lots of suspicious searches for that novel we're all working on but never have time to finish.", "> I wonder how quick reform would happen if a bunch of rich white people had to spend months in jail awaiting\n\nYeah you're a racist piece of shit. You're also either a clueless dumbass or a fucking liar.", "There wasn’t a trial. This was a pre trial appearance. Where’d you get a transcript I’d love to see it", "Wait...they started early, but he still didn't come 8n until 9:07, right?", "Yea. Exactly. It’s on all of them. They all willingly lied and knew they were lying just to fuck this guy.", "Aw, the ole \"I'm rubber and you're glue\" defense. Now I pity you just that much more. No idea what selfless love looks like *and* no creative comebacks.", "Absofruitly!", "That's awesome, but how did that work? How did the personnel in evidence not go, \"Okay. So where is the marijuana then?\"", "And these sock puppets will say that all this new protest and differencing of opinions are whats causing the divide in America, when the truth is that instances likes these are occurring all over and eventually and organically, people become outcast and thus are forced through survival to create their own systems. Doesnt matter if the person was a murderer, provide a proper inspection of situations or more innocent ppl will continue to get locked up, and the resourceful guilty ones will just use the same malicious tactics to skate. This is isnt new. And Ive personally seen situations where those location prosecutors and \"defense attorneys\" secretly and openly collude with each other to reduce the charges of the ones they like, and up the charges of the ones that dont fit their checked boxes. So much so, Ive seen \"public defenders\" and \"prosecutors\" agree on less time for ppl with violent charges, charges relating to another harms, dui charges, than a person with an out of date license. Saddest part is that this may not even be a discriminative or bigoted or assumptive guilty action but that it may just be a natural expression of human [interaction.](https://interaction.At) At lest at some lower level of our human growth. And it leaves humans in an odd predicament. One which forces a person to turn the other cheek, only to be struck on the other side, or to aggress in response in some similarly constructive manner, thus creating a cycle of malice. So where is the love? Maybe there is none. Maybe the only thing malicious person understand is the threat of the state or a higher power. I find it to be very similar to unspoken mutual destruction pacs of nuclear weapons holding states not to shoot or else the other would. Biggest problem is, one of the state hands will eventually be pushed. So how does one breakapart the potenial for destruction, and instead build a society of solution, creation, and sustainability?", "No, at best he was saying it's full of rich \"white people\".\n\nWhy defend a racist? Are you one as well?", "Reality itself is a JoJo reference.", "Nope. This was nine months after the whole saga began. She was accused of stealing money from Walmart's cash office. (It is not a coincidence that she'd been fighting over surgery which was eventually covered by worker's comp about 6 months earlier, and was openly pagan in a VERY Christian branch of Walmart, and was ALSO about six months away from being fully vested.) \n\n\nFirst public defender realized something was very fucky with the evidence - in a nutshell, everything relied on security footage that literally would jump dates and timestamps, and didn't clearly show what they claimed was being done, unless you took their word for it. (While also accounting for the timestamp issues.) Multiple cash office employees were in the video due to the weird jump cuts this video had. \n\n\nHe was actually the one who'd gone from \"just take a plea\" to \"Hey..wait a second. This IS fucking weird.\" \n\n\nShortly thereafter, he got reassigned. \n\n\nSecond PD is relatively the same. He tries to get the security chief to give a deposition. Walmart stonewalls. Hilariously enough, dude was reassigned to a different store and both that store and the security guy are NOT cooperating. PD #2 starts pushing..and reassigned for \"not being efficient with resources\". \n\n\nThird PD comes in, tells me that I'm not welcome to be present when she consults with my wife. Wife informs her that she's waiving her confidentiality WITH ME SPECIFICALLY, and that I have permission to be there. PD #3 kicks me out of the office anyway. Literally says that she won't talk to my wife (her client) when I was present. \n\n\nWhile I'm not present, this is when she bullies my wife. I try to explain to my wife that she needs to file a dismissal of her PD and explain what's happening to the judge. \n\n\nUnfortunately, the day we're supposed to do this, I can't get out of work. Wife goes to court, gets bullied, and basically gave up fighting, because this had literally been nearly a year of court appearances and continuances, and was very clearly now a \"Shut the fuck up, we're making rules as we go\" scenario.", "Welcome to the world.", "https://youtu.be/0VJj-KKrGkE\n\n02:55 it's a court record not a transcript my bad.", "It's plainly obvious what happened here. For whatever reason, his lawyer wanted to bounce before the hearing was actually scheduled, so he agreed to pretend that his client didn't show up and went along with a bench warrant, then fucking left the courthouse before his client even had an opportunity to show up *on time*. \n\nThat's absolutely awful and I can't even begin to imagine why you'd try to rationalize it.", "Are you saying the justice system isn't filled with rich white people? It's overwhelmingly white and wealthy. Are you actually this dimwitted or do you just like to be a bad troll to collect downvotes?", "Found the cheerleader for senseless recidivist deadly negligence. What's it's like having an insane bankruptcy of human compassion?", "Dude, they are literally on camera joking about the record reflecting \"*the court's time*\". That's a pretty obvious reference to using whatever time the judge wants, instead of the actual time.", "Yes! No matter what plan for delays, job interviews-be early, work-be early, dentist appr-be early...plan and expect delays of at least 1/2 hour depending on how far you have to travel...court...damn straight...be early...late is late..can't stop others from the proceedings..sure they started early, expect it...if he was there in 4he room sitting when it started they should revisit it...", "I’m pretty sure everyone with half a brain understood from the context of the rest of their comment knew exactly what they meant.", "Just about everybody that spoke in the video should be disbarred (as applicable), charged, and jailed. They all knew what they were involved in.", "Did they get charged with jailtime for their complete breakage of justice?", ">To call this case out means you have to call out so many others\n\nOh no! ..... anyways", "Click click 🤡", "Im surprised federal isn't involved yet. How is this not a violation of his civil rights?", "This is largely what \"defund the police\" means. It doesn't mean \"defund public safety\" -- it means the police aren't making us safe and something else deserves the budget.", "Yeah I doesn’t matter how many people get ran over at parades!!!!", "If I had loot I would Award 🥇 you. \n\nTake my poor man’s gold.", "ACLU? Yelp? Facebook /Instagram advertisements are cheap. Ruin this fucker", "You pretending I think it is special doesn't- by any stretch of the imagination- mean it is true. Im definitely never going to argue the US is special or unique, and you acting like I have said or eluded to this is ridiculously obvious. Stop.\n\nI didn't argue it was special, I argued it is different. There is a distinct difference here and you're ignoring it. I also didn't argue you can't compare, I argued it is hard to compare... You're obsession with this \"Americans think they're special\" narrative is kinda weird. Yes, people from Germany do balk at being compared to Norway... \n\nGermany has 5 times smaller population, but 28 times smaller by region... my state is almost as large. We aren't talking about population density, though that definitely has an impact as well. Regional size matters too, as much as you pretend like it doesn't. That doesn't even include the demographics difference... which Germany lacks comparatively. \n\n>What about for example India? US states are tiny in comparison so how do you think India should be approached? And despite that you don't see people from India arguing how they are special.\n\nYou do. Do you not spend time on Reddit? Are tiny in population size, not regional size. India actually isn't a bad comparison, though the massive difference in avg annual income makes comparing the two a bit harder. \n\n> Oh and the part about US-EU comparison: even if we included Canada and Mexico with US you'd still not approach the variety of EU. That's a silly notion.\n\nIs it? You must not know much about North America if you think that's true... because I assume you're including little groups in your estimations for the EU but ignoring those same sized groups throught the US, Mexico, and Canada. You'd have to ignore all the indigenous people, all the cultures from throughout the world that have come to NA, etc.\n\nYou're so busy arguing from a Eurocentric view while screaming that I'm calling for American exceptionalism... where my argument was that it is hard to compare when the size, population, demographics, and gdp aren't comparable to many places (but used the EU as a good example of close to equal parity wise, ergo a better comparison.)", "Why its always better to get a pay lawyer. Even if ot means payments or selling plasma..lol.", "Here comes another one, guys", "I thought the same thing at first; she was setting them up by letting it play out, especially when she asked if his lawyer was expecting him to fail to appear. Nope, just shit heads all around.", "the judge and the defendant lawyer should be jailed immediately", "I just don’t like rushing to conclusion when people are trying to sell me “a vast government conspiracy and oh by the way give me money.”\n\nDefinitely best to rush to judgment based on a Reddit post 👌", "Funnily enough, when they asked her, \"What happens if he shows up before 9?\" she responded, \"Arrest him.\"", "The courts are filled with malicious and corrupt officials. I’m not one bit surprised by any of this.", ">I'm fascinated.\n\nI'm not the person you asked, but I made the same mistake in glancing at the title. I'm super baked. It's not all that fascinating; just lazy.", "This is what I'm talking about. You guys operate on fallacious reasoning rather than logic.", "This is what (my eyes) see... \n8:45am - The Court opens and starts 15min early. Sanchez (a 9am case) is not present. \n8:55am - All parties request bench warrant arrest for Failure To Appear on Sanchez. \n9:05am - Other case are going on. Sanchez appears in the room now. \n9:15am - All parties are notified bench warrant paperwork is now active. \n9:15am to 11:15am - Other cases are going on as normal. Sanchez is trying to let people know he is there. \n11:20am - Bailiff arrests Sanchez on warrant.", "It's a very cozy relationship between court-appointed criminal defense attorneys, the judges who appoint them, and the prosecutors who they're supposed to be engaged in adversarial proceedings with. \n\nUgly stuff, but that's why we're fortunate to have a constitutional right to public proceedings, so at least it can't all happen behind closed doors.", "Stuff like this should cause judges to be lose their honorable seats", "The thing that always bothered me about the bail system is that before trial, they put you in jail anyway, no matter what your crime, but if you have money, you can get out?\n\nI actually had the dubious pleasure of experiencing the system first hand last year.\n\nWe live in an apartment complex for the disabled (my wife and I both are) and we were in the laundry facility. A person had had their stuff in both dryers for two days, so I went to get a bag to put it in for when/if they came back. When I came back, the person was there and attacking my wife. Naturally, I defended her, for which I was arrested alongside the attacker. \n\nI couldn't post bail for five days because the judge was out of town, all of which I spent in their psychiatric hold cell because it was the only one free, so basically solitary, but they don't turn the lights off at night. The really fucked up part is, *they never charged me with a crime*! But I also had a $2,000 bond of which we had to pay $400... when our monthly income is less than $1,500. Fortunately my mom came through and got me out. Never saw a dime of my bail bond back but also was never charged and held in solitary for 5 days.\n\nYeah, bail is a fucked up system that is essentially a tax for even being suspected of a crime.", "Also, absolutely not uncommon", "Look at you with all your acronyms that don't communicate anything to anyone outside of your line of work! Well, nobody can really comment, so that's why you're getting downvoted instead of engaged.\n \nI'm sure there's nuance here. There always is. Sanchez did walk into the court room at 9:07, which is after 9. The court discussed what to do if he walked in before 9, and they still said arrest him (so maybe there's something about him needing to check in sooner like I think one of your acronyms means?), but we don't know.\n \nI do know that the judge and multiple others did lie (yes lie, objectively) about when he did in fact step foot in that room by video evidence.\n \nWhy do that -- by order of hours -- if being even a minute past 8:45 sufficed? Why lie when the truth does the trick?", "Your cynicism isn't the same as critical thinking or street smarts, FYI. \n\nIt's super obvious just from the way the lawyers, bailiff, clerk and judge are acting and talking that they know they're pulling some shit. The entire discussion about setting the time of the warrant, where the clerk is whining about how *she's* the one who has to fake it, not the bailiff who volunteers the \"court's time\" suggestion, is a pretty clear illustration of what's going on.\n\nI'm not rushing to judgment; I've been in a shit load of courtrooms and I've seen this kind of thing happen an unfortunate number of times, so I recognize it for what it is.", "Same. I want to type but I feel exhausted so I'll just talk a little bit about this. I actually just got out 2 months ago I made a post on legal advice about this and what I experienced while I was in jail. It's crazy the only reason I got out and got two years probation was because I was able or my family was able to hire an attorney and the felony was dropped to a misdemeanor. But it's so sad to see other people in there with my same charge or even smaller in there for months and months and months sometimes even a year just because they have a court appointed attorney who doesn't give a damn. My mental health has declined dramatically since I've gotten out because of what I experienced in there. They kept me on suicide watch for 14 days. 14 days they wouldn't let me advance into a regular holding cell so I could finally go upstairs to get a bed. While I was in there I wasn't allowed to have any contact with the outside world but I tried to calm down because I knew that my family would be freaking out and I knew that they would have an attorney on the way. When they finally called me out to talk to my attorney my attorney told me that he had been there every single day since I was booked to try to see me and that they wouldn't let him see me. I don't know why. I thought it was a basic right. I asked the guard on the guard told me that my attorney must be lying to me because they would have pulled me out. Yeah right.\n\n After that I freaked out about being in suicide watch I started getting paranoid that they weren't going to call me out for my court date and other things since they did that to me. I didn't want to be in suicide watch. But the doctor supposedly ordered that I stay in there until I detoxed off of methadone so I didn't have a choice. It's crazy that they took me out after 14 days because when I got out of jail I looked it up and apparently the legal limit of solitary confinement is 15 days. You can do way more but the thing about regular solitary confinement is you get your hour a day out but when you're in a suicide holding cell you get no hour out. So I was in there 24/7 for those 14 days. At one point I started believing that they were just conspiring against me. I only got two showers. Even when I started my period and was bleeding they still wouldn't showered me I was lucky if I even got two pads a day. Which I then had to make shift into tampons because you're not allowed to have any clothes in suicide watch not even underwear. \n\n\nI won't even mention the sexual harassment and everything else I experienced. I always say that when I get out I'm going to do something but I'm always just so happy to be out that I want nothing to do with it but I actually want to keep my word this time and help the girls in there. \n\n\nAll of my offenses(2) have stemmed from my drug addiction either directly or indirectly. And being in there has done nothing for my mental health or my addiction. I'm just happy to be out right now but I've been having slip-ups I just had one last week and me and my family are trying. I'm seeing a therapist but it's hard. It's hard being in there and knowing what other people are experiencing in there. Once you know you just know. This video didn't surprise me at all. Now I'm on two years probation and I'm just terrified honestly that I'm going to do something that's going to send me back. And when I say do something I don't mean like a dangerous crime or crime at all. Something is simple as not paying your fines or being late like you saw in this video Will send you back. \n\n\n The first time I ever went to jail was on a class C misdemeanor my first charge for trying to steal a $12 shirt while I was active in my addiction. I ended up doing about 3 years probation because during the time I was pregnant with a high risk pregnancy so they had to extend it I did my classes and everything the only thing I couldn't do was pay my fees. So they actually picked me up for that and held me in jail my dad bailed me out and offered to pay everything that I owed which was thousands and just like that the judge dropped the case and the rest of my probation time thousands of dollars for $12 shirt I tried to take for my daughter that I didn't even end up stealing. The system is crazy. \n\n\nSometimes I don't want to speak up about it because I'm not going to lie my original charge was a dui. And I know people will look into it and we'll start telling me that I deserved it. But I'm not a bad person. I've never deliberately heard anybody. Ever. I would never hurt anybody and I don't deserve to be locked up like an animal. I live every single day terrified that I'm going to go back. Every time I see a cop I start shaking. I hate to say it but I would literally kill myself before I ever go back", "I want to type but I feel exhausted so I'll just talk a little bit about this. I actually just got out 2 months ago I made a post on legal advice about this and what I experienced while I was in jail. It's crazy the only reason I got out and got two years probation was because I was able or my family was able to hire an attorney and the felony was dropped to a misdemeanor. But it's so sad to see other people in there with my same charge or even smaller in there for months and months and months sometimes even a year just because they have a court appointed attorney who doesn't give a damn. My mental health has declined dramatically since I've gotten out because of what I experienced in there. They kept me on suicide watch for 14 days. 14 days they wouldn't let me advance into a regular holding cell so I could finally go upstairs to get a bed. While I was in there I wasn't allowed to have any contact with the outside world but I tried to calm down because I knew that my family would be freaking out and I knew that they would have an attorney on the way. When they finally called me out to talk to my attorney my attorney told me that he had been there every single day since I was booked to try to see me and that they wouldn't let him see me. I don't know why. I thought it was a basic right. I asked the guard on the guard told me that my attorney must be lying to me because they would have pulled me out. Yeah right.\n\n After that I freaked out about being in suicide watch I started getting paranoid that they weren't going to call me out for my court date and other things since they did that to me. I didn't want to be in suicide watch. But the doctor supposedly ordered that I stay in there until I detoxed off of methadone so I didn't have a choice. It's crazy that they took me out after 14 days because when I got out of jail I looked it up and apparently the legal limit of solitary confinement is 15 days. You can do way more but the thing about regular solitary confinement is you get your hour a day out but when you're in a suicide holding cell you get no hour out. So I was in there 24/7 for those 14 days. At one point I started believing that they were just conspiring against me. I only got two showers. Even when I started my period and was bleeding they still wouldn't showered me I was lucky if I even got two pads a day. Which I then had to make shift into tampons because you're not allowed to have any clothes in suicide watch not even underwear. \n\n\nI won't even mention the sexual harassment and everything else I experienced. I always say that when I get out I'm going to do something but I'm always just so happy to be out that I want nothing to do with it but I actually want to keep my word this time and help the girls in there. \n\n\nAll of my offenses(2) have stemmed from my drug addiction either directly or indirectly. And being in there has done nothing for my mental health or my addiction. I'm just happy to be out right now but I've been having slip-ups I just had one last week and me and my family are trying. I'm seeing a therapist but it's hard. It's hard being in there and knowing what other people are experiencing in there. Once you know you just know. This video didn't surprise me at all. Now I'm on two years probation and I'm just terrified honestly that I'm going to do something that's going to send me back. And when I say do something I don't mean like a dangerous crime or crime at all. Something is simple as not paying your fines or being late like you saw in this video Will send you back. \n\n\n The first time I ever went to jail was on a class C misdemeanor my first charge for trying to steal a $12 shirt while I was active in my addiction. I ended up doing about 3 years probation because during the time I was pregnant with a high risk pregnancy so they had to extend it I did my classes and everything the only thing I couldn't do was pay my fees. So they actually picked me up for that and held me in jail my dad bailed me out and offered to pay everything that I owed which was thousands and just like that the judge dropped the case and the rest of my probation time thousands of dollars for $12 shirt I tried to take for my daughter that I didn't even end up stealing. The system is crazy. \n\n\nSometimes I don't want to speak up about it because I'm not going to lie my original charge was a dui. And I know people will look into it and will start telling me that I deserved it. But I'm not a bad person. I've never deliberately hurt anybody. Ever. I've never even accidentally hurt somebody. Nobody was hurt when I was arrested. I would never hurt anybody and I don't deserve to be locked up like an animal. I live every single day terrified that I'm going to go back. Every time I see a cop I start shaking. I hate to say it but I would literally kill myself before I ever go back", "Selfless love is reserved for family and close friends. And saying stupid schoolyard remarks? Yeah go ahead and have the last words since your self esteem needs the boost,\"littleking\".", "It's fucking rough out there. Have things looked up at all since getting out?", "Fucking corrupt.\n\nI'm so mad on your behalf.", "Nah it’s just from experience as a litigator and having a better understanding of the pre-trial procedure and the likelihood of a vast conspiracy against a guy vs other more likely explanations.\n\nBut by all means, you’ve been in courtrooms so you know what’s up because of the way they’re talking 👌", "> Selfless love is reserved for family and close friends\n\nSays who? You? Who made you the arbiter of how people should treat their fellow man? You're a pathetic cynic trying to drag everyone down to your level, and decrying anyone with more love for their fellow man than you have as a 'doormat'. Pitiable.", "I have two take aways from this. \n\n- it seems like they do this all the time. \n\n- it seems like they did it to get done earlier, not exactly “fuck him in particular” but like “out of all the people to fuck over he seems like low hanging fruit and I want an extra 15 minutes at the end of the day so I can stop at Starbucks on the way home”", "Kind of I guess. They want me to be on an alcohol monitor machine that's going to end up costing me thousands and it sucks because I wasn't even drunk. My BAC was zero I was on Xanax. There's no point of me having that machine and I can't afford it. It would be more effective to have me take a drug test once a week but that's only $10 so of course they're not going to opt for that. \n\nI'm seeing a therapist and I'm trying to find a psychiatrist. I'm just trying to break the cycle finally I just don't want to have to go back. I was also lucky that the felony got dropped to a misdemeanor.", "Be quiet, don't tell them shit, and don't agree to do anything they don't have a warrant for.\n\nWhere I am, almost everyone takes the field sobriety tests, even though absolutely no one should, whether intoxicated or stone sober. You want to gamble your future on some cop's evaluation of your balance at 2am on the side of a slanted road? Hell no. My balance sucks sitting here stone sober.\n\nAlmost everyone either consents to give blood or breath or they get a warrant for blood. I win anyway. Cops and the labs are equally terrible at their job. Intoxication is hard to prove, there's lots of science involved. Cops aren't scientists. Around here, the dumbasses in the labs aren't even scientists. They are the C students who couldn't get a job working at an oil refinery lab so they took 50% less money to go screw up cases for the government.\n\nThere's not a big secret to what you should do at the scene, except shut the fuck up. Your only answer to any question other than who you are should be \"I don't answer police questions without a lawyer.\" Then SHUT UP. Don't do any tests, unless your state has separate criminal charges for that (Texas doesn't). No balance tests. No eye tests. No hand clapping tests. No blood or breath tests unless they have a search warrant.\n\nEven with almost all of my clients NOT doing this, I usually win. But the cases where my clients did this, I've never lost.", "I never said you called me stupid. I said you used that word to insult me. Also vehicle breathalyzers keep drivers from starting the car. Of course there are ways around it but everything possible has to be done to keep them off the road. Multiple offense deserve serious penalties in addition to treatment. It's negligence to allow yourself access to your car knowing you will drive drunk once you get drunk. It's like leaving a loaded gun for a toddler to play with.", "He likely didn't drive under influence, since the dashcam of the cop car conveniently \"malfunctioned\" when he asked for proof", "https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/ra32cw/comment/hngjy5z/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3\n\nI think it's important to get a defense attorney's take on it. Also yes, it's easy for a warrant to be recalled.\n\nI'm not saying what happened here is right, but nothing egregious happened. The guy was punished for being late, which he was. You want to get upset because you speculate that injustice could have been done? That doesn't seem right.\nLike the way it was done wasn't \"by the book\" but that's generally how workplaces are and at the end of the day, the way it happened has no bearing on the outcome. He was late, he was punished for it. Such is life.", "This is very different than a Defendant feeling unsettled about his public defender hanging out and joking around with prosecutor and judge before the hearing starts, which is a common complaint that can be explained by nature of the business; of course people have personal relationships with other people who they work with every day.\n\nThis is pretty obviously a conspiracy to let a court-appointed defense attorney leave early, which is a product of possible conflicts that don't usually trigger red flags.", "Anyone have a link to the go fund me? I’m down to contribute to fight this bs", "My brother has been in and out, one DUI included. And he is out because my parents could afford that lawyer. He has been holding a job and working for over a year now after more than a decade of that shit. \n\nKeep your family in the loop with your mental health and addictions. Ask for help when you need it. Do the counseling. Don’t be ashamed when you fuck up and back slide. And stay strong! You got this, you’re not going back.", "And illegally deleted the arrest video with Sanchez and claimed it was 'malfunctioning'.", "You should try arguing that with a judge, and tell us how it goes.\n\nAlso, you realize you just moved the goal post from “it’s not evidence until it’s entered in a case” to “it’s not evidence until there’s an investigation”?\n\nEdit: Utah laws have this added bit too, so yeah, good luck arguing that with a judge:\n>\tor with the intent to prevent an official proceeding or investigation", "These people need prison.", "He didn’t get there until 9:07 his case was for 9:00. Don’t be late or pay the price", "I have been before this judge twice. Once as a defendant and another as a part of Jury selection (I was not selected). This judge is indeed a dishonest and dishonorable as they come. I was in court on trumped up charges just to get me to plead guilty to the lesser charge. I would have fought the lesser misdemeanor charge, but since it was trumped up to a felony, and I couldn’t afford the retainer (it was 7times more for a felony than a misdemeanor) I agreed to plead guilty to the misdemeanor. And I didn’t want to gamble with a jury cause I don’t trust the legal system in the US. That is what they do in the 3rd district court of Utah.", "> Says who? You? \n\nYeah? That's my criteria LOL. I didn't say it should go for everyone else.\n\n> You're a pathetic cynic trying to drag everyone down to your level, and decrying anyone with more love for their fellow man than you have as a 'doormat'.\n\nEasy to say dumbshit like this when you haven't faced any real consequences from trusting in your fellow man like the guy who had his car stolen and faced 2 years of possible jailtime. \n\nGet some perspective because you sound like you have no real life experience outside of your cozy box.", "even the bailiff seemed to be confused why they were doing this.. \"but he always comes in late...\"", "[ **Jump to 09:17 @** Referenced Video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVPCgNMOOP0&t=0h9m17s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: Crafty Criminalist With Ms. Z, Video Popularity: 97.94%, Video Length: [10:10])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@09:12](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVPCgNMOOP0&t=0h9m12s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)", "That is laughing of evil people .", "I spent many years as a litigator too, boss, and I have to question your instincts if you don't have a problem with several of the exchanges caught on tape here.", "Love America but it's justice system is so corrupt smh.", "> Easy to say dumbshit like this when you haven't faced any real consequences from trusting in your fellow man like the guy who had his car stolen and faced 2 years of possible jailtime.\n\nHow do you know? Pure speculation declared as fact. Fearful little coward, you.", "Getting a bench warrant recalled is time consuming. It requires another appointment. That's definitely not what they wanted to do. They had no intention of recalling the bench warrant if he showed up on time. It's obvious the defense attorney just wanted to be done with the case and it doesn't explain the blatant lying by the judge. How do you justify the lying from them the judge and the silence by his lawyer?", "This happens a lot. My lawyer wanted me to agree with the prosecutor when I was like. What y’all did was illegal which means what I suggested was probably right. I followed my gut wrote the same memo to the judge, prosecutor, and my attorney. The case was immediately dismissed. Don’t forget they are there for counsel.", "> You should try arguing that with a judge, and tell us how it goes.\n\nI mean, I'm literally reading the law how it is. \n\n> Also, you realize you just moved the goal post from “it’s not evidence until it’s entered in a case” to “it’s not evidence until there’s an investigation”?\n\nA case and an investigation are the same thing lmfao. The fact you don't know that explains a lot about what you don't know about the legal system. \n\n> or with the intent to prevent an official proceeding or investigation\n\nToo easy, they weren't planning on making an official proceeding or investigation at the time. Done. Next?", "Lot of people need to be disbarred", "You seem to be taking it literally whether I’m using quotes or not, so I don’t know why you wasted time pointing it out. \n\nNo shit there is more paperwork. If you think America is awful and those countries are great then you should be brave enough to drop everything and go there. Look at how brave the migrants at the south are. Go do that to your favorite country.", "So they are all piece of shit .. but the question is it worth your career to force someone to\nPlead guilty ? What do they get if he pleaded guilty , can someone explain ? Risk / reward seems to be skewed", "I think the clerk (who was rubbing her hands and complaining about how *she* was the one who had to fake the time) was the only one with a soul in this video. \n\nMaybe not the purest soul or the strongest backbone, but clerks are really not in any position to start shit in a courtroom.", "> How do you know? Pure speculation declared as fact.\n\nSo now you accusing the guy of being a liar? But I can't call him a doormat for being friends with a guy like that?\n\nLOL, I love the mental gymnastics.", "The thing is, if corrupt officials regularly got even 1 year for this shit, it would stop fast. It only persists because there are zero consequences.\n\nThey may deserve to die, but we don’t need to go through the extra hassle.", "Yeah this is pretty messed up in general but he admitted that he got there early and decided to kill some time waiting in his car. Like, dude you're there early just walk in don't wait in your car. What they did to him is messed up and corrupt without a doubt but why would you want to only be on time for your court hearing especially when you set yourself up to be early.", "This is nothing unusual. Stuff like this happens more often than is ever noticed in small courts everywhere.\n\nSome of the most rotten and immoral people are working as Court officials. I experienced similar problems in the family court system when a Guardian ad Litem repeatedly lied about me.\n\nCorrupt attorneys are truly the bottom feeders of society.", "You think what I saw was a reportable offense? It's not. That's what I'm trying to get at.", "Disgusting. The snarky laughing amongst these big wig pricks is what’s killing me", "Ah", "I have problems with it.\n\nBut I’m not jumping on the “the DAs and PDs and court are all in a vast conspiracy to get one guy to plead guilty to a fucking dui” boat, who oh by the way is promoting a go fund me to finance his 1983 suit?\n\nThe DUI has been in pre trial for THREE YEARS.\n\nDoesn’t that strike you as fucking weird?\n\nLike maybe he’s been fucking around and has been warned and when he FTA’d (as he admitted) the court was done with his shit and remanded him to teach him to respect the fucking court?\n\nNo? Easier to take the conspiracy route?", "With the large crowd at the door, it might have been difficult to get in. The process for getting in can also cause unavoidable delays as well. With it only being a couple of minutes past 9, I wouldn't be surprised if either or both was responsible (at least in part) for his late arrival.\n\nAside from that, given what we saw in the video, I wouldn't be surprising if someone working there purposely delayed his arrival.", "People who legitimately have no money get free public defenders who work for the government. People who have *some* money have to rely on private, nonprofit, court-appointed defense attorneys like the guy in this story, which may or may not involve a financial contribution from the Defendant.", "They literally sent a man to prison so they could save themselves *FIFTEEN MINUTES OF TIME*.\n\nImagine the kinds of corruption these disgusting individuals commit when they have an actual incentive.", "You seem to be arguing that everyone just needs to accept occasional random injury and death because some people have to drive after drinking.", "Or i just dont think someone who hasnt killed anyone should have a life sentence.\n\nAlso youre super pretentious", "Stuff like this is why I legit live in fear of legal entanglements in the US. I grew up in a small town in the rural south and I feel like most of my friends by the time we were young adults had been in the jail at least once, most a lot more than that. They turn this into a revolving door and ruin people. Luckily I didn’t ever end up there but I only have one friend besides me who I grew up with that never had to deal with it.", ">Look at you with all your acronyms that don't communicate anything to anyone outside of your line of work.\n\nWasn't trying to be esoteric. I just assumed everyone would Google it. I engage all the time in medical stuff when Ppl throw around medical acronyms... I just Google it. Not that hard but I get many internet people don't want to do the extra work when engaging in conversation, nbd. \n\n>so maybe there's something about him needing to check in sooner\n\nYes. If the judge says court starts at 8:30. It starts at 8: 30. Her house, her rules. End of. \n\n>Why lie when the truth does the trick?\n\nC.Y. A. (I know you don't want to Google it, but it means cover your ass). No deeper meaning here. \n\nMy experience, the laymen always want to see something that isn't there because of how untransparent this line of work is. The most boring explanation is usually the right one. PD & prosecutor were over this case and the judge was just taken advantage of. End of story. No dark, shadowy ulterior motives here other than sheer laziness imo. That's why this case will never go anywhere, unfortunately for him.\n\n>that's why you're getting downvoted\n\nNo. It's because of my line of work. People love to hate prosecutors while simultaneously having zero idea what we do. It happens all the time, this isn't the first time. If only they knew how important we are to the health of our society.", ".. it's not that hard to recall a bench warrant, and the idea of being upset because what you think might have happened is ridiculous because there is no evidence. \n\nWho lied? I get that you might be frustrated because they aren't trying to get to the bottom of when exactly he got there and **maybe** they are trying to justify the warrant but it really doesn't even matter because he was late, and what they did is what?? Illegal? Immoral?\n\nI'll rewatch it again and the other video. Can't listen to the sound ATM. I'm just so tired of reddit freaking out about by some video that shows one said and wants to critique a system that they have no fucking understanding of.", "I wish it was that easy", "This is fucking DEPLORABLE. And their fucking snickers and giggles - are you shitting me?!?", "Its supposed to be a joke. They copy/pasted part of a phrase from the parent post and some of you completely missed it.", "Ah yes, the freedom to get shot in a school. Must be really great.", "The judge lied. She said the warrant was issued well after 9. The female attorney didn't say anything when he Sanchez said he talked to her. The male attorney said the warrant was given to him at 0900. You don't lie unless you have a reason too. Recalling a bench warrant is time consuming.", "Did you read the whole story? All of it sounds fucky. The cops don't have any of the evidence that would normally be expected, *because of weirdness and mystery*, and that seems like more than enough to explain how it could drag out for years. \n\nThat would be a fucking nightmare case if you're just getting ~$100/hr as a court-appointed defense attorney, or you're a prosecutor who has to continue to have a good working relationship with the PD and has a billion other more-serious cases, or a judge who just wants a clearer docket and might be an asshole in general. \n\nI think they made the mistake of trying to railroad this kid for their own convenience, but he's pretty sharp and it blew up on them. I have a hard time coming up with an alternative explanation that doesn't fuck this guy over and paint every part of the system as pretty ugly, unethical and lazy.", "If entire communities banded together, we wouldn’t have to participate in this garbage. The most pervasive forms of fascism exist in local courts and governments all across the country. Communities need to stand up and unite against this crap.", "Always show up 30 minutes before court starts. Plus he also missed a court date? Your liberty is on trial, just show up on time.", "I’m pretty sure the police/DA and the judiciary are part of different branches, and are independent of each other.\nIt follows that it would be pretty awkward for an investigation (ran by the executive branch) to be the same thing as a court case (judiciary branch).\n\nBut hey, you do you.\n\n>\tToo easy, they weren't planning on making an official proceeding or investigation at the time. Done. Next?\n\nGreat. That sentence makes no sense whatsoever, but sure, why not.\n\nIf I kill somebody and burn the body before the police realizes somebody is missing, did I not destroy evidence because I destroyed it before the police planned to open an investigation into a murder they didn’t know existed?\n\nWith that in mind, go read the article again, and try to understand the “intent to prevent an investigation” part.\nThe point of that sentence isn’t whether the police was planning on opening an investigation or not. It’s whether the evidence destroyer did that to prevent an investigation.", "Nobody tell /u/fizzlefist about what would have happened to him in mexico", "Utah has never been kind to people of color.", "This needs to be spread on all social media till it reaches global news coverage!", "Yea I read the SLT article.\n\nMissing evidence is frankly not that uncommon, and it’s not because of fucking conspiracies lol. It’s because cops are generally incompetents and they mistag the BWC when they upload it or they forget to upload it.\n\nThat’s good for him, frankly. He can get a R16 instruction to the jury telling them they can draw an adverse inference from its absence. It basically gets the case dismissed.\n\nIt absolutely wouldn’t be a nightmare case. Maybe 15 hours pre trial, slam dunk case. I would dismiss it if I were the DA. I wouldn’t risk my license and civil liability to coordinate a conspiracy to get a guy to plead guilty. You fucking drop the case. THAT’S how you keep a good relationship with the PDs, manage your own docket, and keep a salty judge happy. You don’t have a conspiracy about it, that’s just fucking dumb and way too much risk for absolutely no pay off.\n\nHere’s an explanation: he fucked around for 3 years and the court was sick of his shit.", "> And rightly so. A lot of innocent people get killed by drunk drivers.\n\nAs well as speeding drivers, distracted drivers, people that have been awake way too long or had way too little sleep and a lot more.\n\nI agree, driving while influenced is really shitty. But depending on the real life circumstances (mainly how much you consumed and how you were driving) I don't think it shouldn't really ruin someones year, let alone life. \n\nI don't want to loose my loved ones to a drunk driver, but I don't want to loose them to a confused 80 year old insisting that she is still good to drive or a sober 18 year old thinking who watch too many Fast/Furious movies.", "Makes me sick seeing this. Especially all the laughing when they know they’ve screwed him over. Makes me so sad.", "Especially if your a person of color or a poor Caucasian.", "So the answer is no.", "You know what they say about lawyers XD", "Dexter season 3, ELLEN WOOD", "> judiciary are part of different branches, and are independent of each other\n\nSure are. \n\n> It follows that it would be pretty awkward for an investigation (ran by the executive branch) to be the same thing as a court case (judiciary branch).\n\nI never said otherwise. Detectives and investigators also refer to their investigations as 'cases'. Like the term, cold case. \n\nAnyways, that's just a semantic you didn't understand, let's move on. \n\n> If I kill somebody and burn the body before the police realizes somebody is missing, did I not destroy evidence because I destroyed it before the police planned to open an investigation into a murder they didn’t know existed?\n\nYou actually wouldn't be charged with destroying evidence, honestly. That's how the court system works. Case law is a bitch lmao", "Because that doesn't change waht the gov did and the injustice", "This pisses me off goddamn. I've just realized that the world doesn't work perfectly and a person in power who orders me to do something isn't always right. I've always followed a blind path forward and going wherever someone tells me to. I need to change for the better of myself.", "The fuckin American justice system is a rotten joke.", "> Found the cheerleader for senseless recidivist deadly negligence.\n\nFound the guy that acts like if you are not in favor of his warped image of justice you must obviously on the side of the criminals. The texting while driving criminals in this case...", "I don't accept \"being sick of his shit\" as a legit explanation. They clearly called his case early, or that whole exchange about \"do you not expect him?\" wouldn't have occurred. And the whole thing about using \"the court's time\" would be unnecessary. Maybe they were betting he wouldn't show up, but they bet wrong. \n\nMaybe it was a total cattle call and he should have been there at 8am, rather than a specific time, and he's playing a bit of a game in the video, but that still doesn't explain how all of these people who clearly saw him, *and* spoke to him in some cases, would play along if they were acting legally and ethically, instead of being petty because he deserved it for not appearing once and being late a second time. \n\nYou're bending over backwards to explain this bullshit, and I understand the urge to settle people down and discourage angry conspiratorial thinking, but this is not the hill to die on, IMO.", "I am a lawyer, yes. I am not a dues paying member of any bar association, but I know enough about them, and about unions, to know the difference.", "Not for someone habitually late and delaying the courts. This guy wanted his DUI case to goto a trial jury. With a breathalyzer test of 0.13% the legal limit is 0.08%.\n\nAnd he was purposely delaying the courts while out on bond? What more do you want?\n\nThe courts have no reason to show favoritism or allow everyone out on bond to delay the courts without recourse.", "Sometimes it’s the wake up call people need. It’s definitely far from perfect though.", "I guess you didn't read my post, lol. All I'll say is this: your lineage - all our lineages - is worthless. What only matters is what we do now. That's the promise that America could offer, if it wasn't mired in far-right trash.", "That doesnt really change about how corrupt this whole situation has been still, it just means the guy himself isnt really a saint", "Wow just wow.", ">the judge said he was waiving all my penalties but would still enter a verdict of guilty.\nEssentially meaning I didn't have to pay anything...\n\n> but my insurance would still go up.\n\n>good for me my premiums didn't actually go up since again I had a clean driving record you dumb fuck \n\n\n^ all your own words. Argue with yourself some more. \nBye Felicia\n\n\n\n\n# but my insurance would still go up.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n# good for me my premiums didn't actually go up", "The court he was in was a docket system, they can merely do the next case on the docket and push him back to the end. \n\nWhich is literally what happened as he came before the judge 2 hours later.\n\nWhat I WANT is for his defense to be his zealous advocate so he gets his due process, and requesting the case be pushed back or not trying to call it early would be part of that.\n\nLiterally do not give a shit what his crime actually was.", ">I never said you called me stupid. I said you used that word to insult me.\n\nI said the notion that you can prove you aren't an addict is stupid, because it is. If you take that as an insult, that is on you. \n\n> Also vehicle breathalyzers keep drivers from starting the car. Of course there are ways around it but everything possible has to be done to keep them off the road. \n\nThe ways around it are cutting two wires and a wire nut. Not exactly rocket science. That's assuming an interlock is even installed.\n\n>Multiple offense deserve serious penalties in addition to treatment. \n\nBased on what evidence?\n\n>It's negligence to allow yourself access to your car knowing you will drive drunk once you get drunk.\n\nObviously.\n\n>It's like leaving a loaded gun for a toddler to play with.\n\nIt's not.", "Need to find there name's and get them fired removed for ever start a petition", "Not to ignore the \"call it at 8:45\" but the article claims he was not in court until 9:07, and he should have been in early.\n\nHe claims he was killing time in his car and then managed to be 10 minutes late? Doubt.", "Very easy to turn down if you have lots of money already, or a steady job that pays well.\n\nIf you owe lots of money, or are simply living paycheck to paycheck, then \"here's a ton of cash to fix your problems\" suddenly isn't trivial.\n\nI've never had more than 5k in my bank (I'm British, so... likely around $7,500), and even that was because it was put there in one lump so I could cover a housing deposit. Being given like 9 times that amount, which would cover every debt I have, and have a ton left so I don't need to worry for a bit, and could actually leave my job immediately and find something better without struggling to find free time to do so... I think I'd take it, especially when I know the system is bullshit and fighting against me.", "lol haha huhu hihi hehe", "Did he end up disbarred? I hope, I hope!", "Fuccccckkkkk these people! Fire and criminally charge all of them!", "You are right he was late at 9:08 but I can also understand why he was killing time in his car. Its bullshit the way the courts schedule these types of things. They schedule as many people as they can for the same day and tell everyone to be there by 9. Then you sit there all day until they call your name. It could be 10 minutes it could be 10 hours. I went to a similar type of hearing as this and was there on time at 9 and didnt go in front of the judge until 2:30. They make it as difficult as they possibly can for you. In PA I had to take an evaluation just for statistics for PennDOT from my dui and I had to reschedule because my car broke down on the way there. I was fined 200 dollars for having to reschedule.", "Because the man was late for his case. His own words, he didn't get into the room until 7 minutes after.\n\nYoure late for your court appointment, bad things are going to happen.", "Someone will step in eventually after the bodies start piling up, they'll remove some scapegoats that weren't killed already, the rest of them will be a bit more careful for the forseeable future because a bunch of their friends were just lynched, then we get to start over with less corruption.", "u telling me they played with this guys only chance at getting bailed?", "He left out the bit where he didn't arrive until 9:07.\n\nSort of a crucial detail. Don't miss your court date or you will get a bench warrant.", "I see 5 people in that courtroom who should be in jail instead of that dude.", "Let’s not ignore the overarching theme here to why this happened. It was in Utah. Obvious blatant racism. Bet they absolved themselves in their bullshit church that Sunday too.", "I understand that he received easier rulings during the case prior to this, but his rights were ultimately violated by dishonorable actors here", "Not surprised. The ultimate cowards", "> He didn't kill or injure anyone. \n \nUhhh, let's not go defending DUIs on the basis of whether or not they killed someone. \n \nThis guy may very well have been absolutely sloshed and all over the road, this videos says nothing about that. This video is about court process, which should be adhered to even if you have someone murdering on video. You treat them with the same court process as a minor jay walking offense.", "And you just got kicked out of every jury pool ever", "Yes. But I had the Merit System Protection Board refuse to give me a free transcript as provided in their rules because a clerk told me it cost too much for them to do that. I appealed the case and asked the US Attorney’s Office what they would do about the lack of a transcript. US Attorney’s Office told me to report it to the IG Office at the Merit System Protection Board. In other words, the US Attorney’s Office didn’t care at all about the due process rules being violated.", "This is what we mean by, \"systemic\".", "I don’t know what kind of sick monster thinks it’s funny to completely screw someone’s life over like that. They all act like it’s some silly joke. Who the hell would find any kind of joy from that?", "Here’s the Utah rules on professional conduct. https://www.utcourts.gov/resources/rules/ucja/view.html?title=Rule%201.3.%20Diligence.&rule=ch13/1_3.htm", "Unethical justice system in America??? I’m shocked! 🙄", "I had the same experience minus the public defender bit during end of sophomore year (went to college in CT where weed was decriminalized at the time). It cost me $1,500 for the lawyer and I was able to avoid any misdemeanor charges by agreeing to volunteer for 40 hours of community service. \n\nSchool expelled me for a year and then reversed the expulsion. When they called to ask for donations the year after graduation I essentially said “no” with some fanciful and choice words. 6 years on I still haven’t gotten a call from them; greedy bunch of assholes.", "This is getting more common everywhere. Greed and laziness driving these people rather than duty. Defence attorney trying to put a innocent guy in jail for a minor offense so he can milk him for all hes got and on the other side of the fence public employees who would rathar subvert justice as its more convenient for them.\n\nThis is why we need to start calling out this BS at a personal level. These scumbags are getting away with it too often. Every fight no matter how small is a message to the vermin that this sort of behaviour will be exposed, that it will not be tolerated, and there will be consequences.\n\nGood for this bloke, hope he milks em for all theyve got.", "Federal court is the answer. We live in a society...", "According to Mr. Sanchez there was a mass scheduling of cases at 9 am. He could not physically get into the court until 9:07 am. The practice in that court is not to consider anyone late until after 9:15 am and also to allow them to meet with their attorney. The video evidence supports his claim that multiple cases were set to be called at 9:00 am.", "I've learned more from randos on Reddit and homeless people on the back of the bus than I ever have from any *school*!", "Had they waited till 9 to start this they still would have been done and the warrant issued before he got there, you're all attributing to malice what is more likely just people at work trying to get paperwork done a bit faster than they technically should, but this was a 5 year case with many missed and late appearances culminating in a bench warrant being served.\n\nLike if you watch it was about 3 minutes to say he wasn't here and get the warrant issued, waiting until 9 would have made zero difference, as I said had he arrived at 8:59 and they tried this shit id be on his side, but he was told if he was late again a warrant would be issued and then he was late again.", "That's cause this is reddit lol", "fucking abhorrent cunts", "The vast majority of us who are adults if we were to have court proceeding would show up at least a half an hour early . This would be done for two reasons ,1 to show respect to the court and 2 more importantly to CYA because you wouldn’t want to be late to your own case . \n\nIf a court thinks you’re playing games with them by showing up at or almost when your case is set to be heard I could absolutely see a situation like this developing. So I can understand the rationale of the court here . \n\nHowever the court is still bound by its own rules , if his trial isn’t set to start till 9:15 then you can’t enter a bench warrant for his arrest at 8:45 … you especially can’t conspire with everyone in the court to knowingly lie about the times ! \n\nIf someone wants to dance on the edge of the volcano like this after having been previously told they need to show up on time you simply have to let them . One day there will be a traffic jam and THEN that person Will be late ,THAT is when you nail them .", "No. Sanchez states he had to clear security and could not get into the court until 9:07 am because multiple people had matters schedule at 9:00 am. Even if he was late, the matter involving him and only him occurred at 8:45 am. Sanchez arriving at 9:07 am was not the reason given by the court fora bench warrant being issued.", "Disbarment flow chart. Did you mishandle client money —> yes —>disbarred \n —-> not disbarred", "So... were you intentionally trying to reinforce their point?", "Sanchez states that due to the number of people he could not physically enter the courtroom until 9:07 am. If he tried to push his way past people, he could have been held in contempt of court.", "Most of them are.", "Man I was in CT too, but weed was illegal. I got expelled, and not invited back. Never graduated from college after that.", "What I don't get is that he was late anyway (9:09a).Wouldn't the result have been the same had they started at the scheduled time of 9:00a?", "Contact the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Utah and ask that Color of Law, 18 U.S.C. 242 cases be brought against the judge, the bailiffs and the lawyers involved. Given them a link to the video. The federal government has authority to deal with a state employee’s misuse of his or her official office to violate the due process rights of a defendant.", "It’s a violation of 18 USC 242.", "I’m a chronically late person, but when it’s something as serious as a court date I will waste some time in the parking lot, yes.\n\nThere’s a difference between people who are shitty at time management (a relatively benign habit), and people who don’t adequately appreciate the importance of a DUI court date. This kind of thing should light a fire under your ass.", "This is infuriating", "I was thinking in terms of Anonymous. Exposing the wrong doings of individuals, applying societal pressure to exact change. Do this, we do that and every one knows. Exposing Epstein and Cuomo took way to long to get any justice. Those individuals with the deepest pockets are the ones who are most criminally insulated, would have to fight fire with fire and money with money.", "Pieces of absolute human garbage. They should all be fired immediately and have to pay restitution to this man.", "Got pulled from a jury box when the defense council asked “are police officers perfect?” And I laughed into the mic.\n\n(I was a prosecutor’s strike)", "Like the guy on Milwaukee that killed all those people out on 1000 bond?", "Pieces of shit. I love the state of Utah but hate the people there", "You literally quoted yourself as if it were me. That shows how dumb you are lol. Lolololol hahahaha \n\nAlso, that was what the judge said to me idiot. My insurance did not go up, because I had a clean driving record. The judge didn't get to decide if my premiums go up or not, he doesn't work for insurance....lol enjoy the down votes though.", "What crime did he commit?", "Merit System Protection Board is another completely corrupt system. There is a 98% loss rate for litigants. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Merit_Systems_Protection_Board No matter what evidence a federal employee has, the Administrative Law Judges will not rule for a litigant.", "Sad situations on the bench in some states. It gets even worse on the municipal bench in a lot of states, because serious crime that used to be prosecuted criminally ends up mixed in with traffic tickets.\n\n*\"Everything is going great!*", "The guy has a wonderful argument for an appeal due to improper representation, despite whatever else may be the case", "What ***holes - the judge, lawyers, and everyone involved. And let’s just remove “honorable” from this judge’s title. \n\nDid anyone involved get any reprimand?\n\nCongratulations to the person that put this video together.", "First you're welcome to name your country so I can laugh at all the failures.\n\nSecond, you're twice as likely to be struck by lightning than to be shot in a school shooting. It's tragic and having better parents raising better kids is needed, but look at the real numbers and risk. I guarantee your country is a steamy turd compared to the US.\n\nFrom Teslas to iPhones, the internet and emails, or even vaccines, the US delivers innovation to the world. You're welcome. We can also say almost anything about our leaders without persecution and defend our families with force if needed. There's a reason millions are trying to cross our southern border instead of staying in any of the other south America countries nor Mexico.", "The alcohol didn’t magically appear in his blood", "I would have thought that with so many videos of police brutality and wrong doing that the majority of police officers would have given themselves a \"self check\". Like, \"before I pull this trigger I really need to consider the consequences.\" \n\nFor the most part there are NO consequences.", "How do you know he has alcohol in his blood tho? Is there a news story on this with facts of this case?", "Yeah, the whole \"clogged doorway, people trying to get in\" thing seems pretty contrived, but it's irrelevant, because the decision was already made ~15 minutes that he was late; *before* he was late.", "But his own lawyer met with the prosecutor before any of that happened and joked about issuing a bench warrant, then he threw his client under the bus, shrugged his shoulders, and was never seen again in the video that ran another couple hours.", "That all sounds great but Sanchez issued a second video in response to questions. He produced a transcript showing the time the bench warrant was issued at 8:45 am. Sanchez further said the practice in that court was to have multiple cases schedule at 9:00 am. He physically could not enter the court until 9:07 am. If the court wants defendants to physically be in the court room, then the defendant should be allowed to enter and less cases should be set for the same time. Sanchez said that previously the court allowed defendants to meet with their lawyer prior to the case being called.", "Things happen. We’re all human. 7 minutes late. 7??? And you think this is all justified. Were you never late anywhere in your life? If it was when they lied about at i dont know 1030 or something crazy then yeah that’s bad. What if he was in the bathroom because he had to take an emergency shit in the court bathroom? Come on man get real\n\nEdit. This whole court room has a blatant disregard for the law. I hope you’re not in charge of anyone or have any power what so ever", "My brother was out drinking and decided to go home. Decided to get gas at the station connected to the bar parking lot. Some rando drunkard came up aggressively and my brother’s friend clocks him. \n\nRando is brother-in-law with a police offer and only remembers my brother being at the bar. BOOM my brother has an arrest warrant for assault. \n\nWhen they got my brother in cuffs his friend is literally there going “he didn’t punch him I DID”\n\nNow my brother wanted to be a fire fighter, but he has an unresolved assault on his record and is denied outright by fire fighting companies. All because some asshole who got angry when drunk, fingers my brother in a drunken stupor to his brother-in-law.\n\nMy brothers friend was able to get a self defense judgment as the drunkard showed up and said he was an angry drunk and being aggressive after leaving a bar. Apparently it was the drunks mother who made everything happen. She was escorted out of the hearing when the judgment was handed down. We actually had a lawyer to counter sue because the false fingering cost my brother multiple jobs. But his testimony was honest and is why the self defense case was secured.\n\nThe cop kept his job BTW. The person who cuffed my brother was a friend of his(both my brother and the cop who wrote the false report). She said it wasn’t even a slap on the wrist.", "*Shrug* \"Why isn't my client here? Well, he's always like this...\" Leaving aside that it's 15 minutes early. Absolutely fucking awful lawyering.", "I spent a night in jail for this. The breathalyzer didn’t print out a full report, so all they had to prove I was drunk was video of the field sobriety test. I got a call from my lawyer that all charges were dropped. All thanks to that failed breathalyzer printout. Learned my lesson though", "Yes. But he was late because he physically could not enter the court room due to the court practice of setting multiple cases for the same time.", "Surely a breathe is the superior option.", "It was. They refused to do anything.", "I watched this whole video. Where does it say that? Or do you have access to more info on this case? Because I’d like to see it also", "What a fucking scam", "I can’t seem to find the follow up news article where it talks about how the people involved all got prison sentences ranging from 5-20 years….\n\nWhen you take someone’s freedom and confine them against their will, whether by force or by fraud, you are kidnapping them. That is a serious felony. The people involved knew what they were doing was wrong, which is why they covered it up. Also, just because you didn’t know a crime was that serious doesn’t mean you get away with it. These people, especially since they are all in positions of trust and power, deserve prison sentences.", "Again you think that based off of less than 10 minutes of coverage of a 5+year trial, his appeal has already been denied once and likely will be again by the higher courts but we'll see.", "But they called it well before he was late. Even if they were right about him and correctly predicted the future, that's not how due process works.", "I hate when I falsify court documents to get a bullshit arrest and get a thorough talking to. Really takes the fun out of ruining someone's life when my boss tells me not to do it on camera next time.", "Have you ever been in a court with 40 cases set to start at 9:00 am? I have. Impending the ability of a litigant to enter a courtroom negates claims that he was deliberately late. The court can’t create conditions where a defendant can’t enter the court room and then claim a defendant is late. Further, I have seen courts call defendants’ cases two or three times before defaulting them for not appearing. Sanchez’s case was called at 8:45 am and then after 10:30 am to issue the bench warrant.", "According to Sanchez, his attorneys were annoyed with him for not accepting a plea deal to plead guilty to a DUI.", "I hope to God I see an update to this in a couple months and read that every single blood cell people involved is in prison and this man is monetarily helped by the city that did him wrong.", "That's what I mean. The matter that involved him (his court case) was *supposed* to start at 9:00AM. Even though it's possible his case may have been able to start on time and Sanchez would've been late. The court pretty clearly conspired against him when his own lawyers begins his case 15min early without him present, the court then ignores him for a couple hours, and state they saw him arrive only \"ten minutes ago\" after just discussing that they saw him much earlier than that.", "Yea whatever fantasies make you feel better 👌 giant conspiracies over a fucking dui (lol) is definitely more likely than some douchebag fleecing gullible Redditors for his go fund me.\n\nBy all means spend your money however you want, you fucking idiot.", "You miss you court dates, you fuck around, the court loses patience. Your bond goes up. It’s the way it goes.\n\n“Do you not expect him” is a reasonable question for a court to ask. \n\nHe should’ve been there at 9. He wasn’t. Dockets are a mess.\n\nI don’t know what’s going on with this case. Like I said I’d like to know the history of the case and his compliance with pre trial.\n\nWhat I do know is the idea of the court, pds, and das conspiring to get a guy arrested on a shitty bench warrant is just insane. Plus this dude trying to raise money and being in active litigation? He’s got a clear angle.", "This is a case where gofundme can actually do good instead of just covering deficiencies. It's a good thing that we can invest in this case and the guy at the center doesn't need to be the only one carrying the weight of reform.", "I'm ok with bail, but we need it to cover more factors and have a true objective standard for the amount. Judges have FAR too much discretion. This applies to both bail and sentencing.", "Luis Sanchez' Gofundme is called 'Legal Fund to Sue Corrupt Attorneys'.", "seems like conspiracy to me. The Judge should lose the most, since she's ultimately the one most responsible for these crimes.", "His bond didn't go up, he got cuffed for showing up on time to court. What the fuck, man?\n\nYou're making this a lot more about the defendant than it needs to be, when in fact it's about the lawyers and judge. This dude's lawyer obviously didn't want to wait around, because he probably has another court assignment (or possibly a private client, but that's rare with this dipshits).\n\nI don't know what you're trying to argue, but I can tell you with a great deal of experience that sometimes stupid, ugly relationships between uncaring, incompetent lawyers and well-insulated, lower-court judges arise in all kinds of states all over the country. And they rub each other's backs. Crazy, I know...", "Those 2 lawyers need to not only be disbarred - they need to be jailed and so does the judge.", "You're super morally bankrupt. Keep simping for repeat drunk drivers.", "Common in India", "Well he showed up late. “Only 7 minutes” (says he) but yea late.\n\nSo the judge arrests him and he has to post bond. He can’t post it cause his bond is raised. First dui you get a 1500 PR UNLESS you’ve been fucking around. Then the PR gets pulled and you have to put up cash to get out of jail. Doesn’t happen if you keep your court dates.\n\nThat’s how/why he got arrested and the judge didn’t vacate the warrant and the bond when he showed up. She’d had it with his bullshit and probably thought if she makes him put money at risk he’ll stop fucking around and keep his court dates (that’s one of the points of bail).\n\nI’m making this all about the defendant because there are a lot of unanswered questions about him, the answers to which could explain a lot.\n\nMaybe there’s some backwoods shit going on I don’t know I worked in a major metro area, this kind of shit would never happen. Unthinkable", "How does this not get you disbarred?", "There are also quite a few people jailed because if they weren't they would probably kill the person they are abusing. Jail is absolutely NOT supposed to be about addressing potential flight risks.", "Except there need to be people who don't blindly trust officers on the jury panel to deliberate...", "https://casetext.com/case/state-v-sanchez-1242072", "They are laughing!!! Fucking laughing at ruining someone’s life/reputation. Whenever this person hunts for a job his face will show up on a google search. These people should be in prison! They did this in such a manner where it makes me believe they have done this many times. What a fucking disgrace.\n\nI hope Mr. Sanchez is doing ok. I wish him the best in life.", "Wow, welcome to the racist state of Utah. The judge should have her position suspended.", ">At least everyone at Walmart is there voluntarily\n\nWalmart moves into town, intentionally kills all the competing bussiness because they can sell at a loss and not care. Other companies go broke and then walmart is the only game in town. \n\nSo it is 'voluntarily' in the same way you 'voluntarily' go to work. It's that or starve. \n\n>d the Waltons never sent a thug to kneel on your chest until you die. \n\nNo but they've also stolen millions from their workers in wage theft. A capitalist such as yourself should appreciate time is money and money time. Millions, can add up to several life times for low wage workers. \n\nWalmart does use our justice system to do that. Remember this case [where they had the police hunt down a dementia patient and break her arm?](https://news.yahoo.com/police-officer-breaks-arm-dementia-063635210.html). I can tell you for a fact police wouldn't do that for you or I, just the wealth interests. If that's too abstract they've had dozens of law suits about locking workers in (if us peons did it, it would be called kidnapping) and not paying them (hmm, what do you call someone you lock in and don't pay but make them work for you?)\n \n\nWithout money directly impacting our legal system (say being able to directly purchase your freedom, or choose a friendly judge) it still favors the wealthy.[ There are already two tiers of justice in the US](https://www.researchgate.net/blog/post/two-in-one-differences-in-the-us-justice-system-for-the-rich-and-the-poor) to think that allowing the rich to directly buy their freedom from prosecution is foolhardy. Or that the poor, who can't afford a lawyer in the current system, could some how afford an entire trial...\n \n\nWe actually already have a similar system in America to what you describe called binding arbitration. You agree to use it with pretty much every large company you do business with. [It turns out, when a company gets to pick and pay for the judge and the rules it tends not to go so well for those without money.](https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/11-10-13BlandTestimony.pdf) \n\n> In many cases, mandatory arbitration clauses have the effect of immunizing \ncorporations from any liability or accountability even when they have blatantly \nviolated consumer protection or civil rights laws. As a result, corporations are \nable to break consumer protection laws by doing things such as misleading \nconsumers about the costs of loans or engage in similar bait-and-switch practices, \nand the legal system does nothing to deter these behaviors or compensate cheated \nconsumers. \n\nAs bad as our justice system is, I at least can have a say in how it's run. Even if it's small.", "Other people posted more details. He had .12 bac", "the case according to the video was going on for 5 years, and he has only had 2 issues of being on time in 5 years...i agree with being early but in other sources it said he apparently was in his car watching the door waiting for the line to clear out so that he could get seated. they actively discouraged having lines form and told people to wait outside in such events, hence you can see him going in and out. everyone involved should actively get time in jail for this and investigate their cases historically for such malpractice.", "Okay I didn’t see any of them. Lemme make this clear. I have ZERO sympathy for drunk drivers. I despise them highly. So if he was drunk and that .12 is correct then he should be locked up. This info should have been in the video it’s a very large piece of the puzzle. But why has it taken 5 years to get this case to its conclusion??", "The corruption in Utah is real. They're like a rogue state.", "Better to be rich and guilty than poor and innocent.", "What a shit hole of a justice system. Full of rot.", "Nice statistics from law-LC.com !\n\nAnd there’s totally no way repeat offenders could possibly be double counted (obviously) in these official stats from this website that has no skin in the game in regards to these infractions?\n\n\nAlso, it’s pretty shitty of you to keep calling me an idiot instead of articulating a rational response", "I've never seen a group of white people so casually just ruin a man's life in one room, within an hour. This makes me sick.", ">lol enjoy the downvotes though\n\n\nOk. Also........\n\n\n\nPersonally I don't give a fuck about what a downvote is?", "A fucking liar it is. Quote above is verbatim what your racist ass wrote. Fuck you.", "Can anyone that a criminal defense lawyer weigh in here? If husband shots cop in defense of the baby, could that be an acquittal?", "> The judge didn't get to decide if my premiums go up or not, he doesn't work for insurance...\n\n\nSo why did you say that the judge entered a guilty verdict, and your “insurance would still go up”?\n\nFake ass", "Congrats! You have earned the \"Angry Idiot\" RES tag and an ignore. Bye!", "Fuck our entire legal system and justice department.\n\nFuck Garland for not riding the wave of BLM and pushing for systemic reform.\n\nFuck the DOJ and FBI for swallowing all of this year over year like my ex at a frat party that she was \"just visiting with her friends\".\n\nFuck these regional judges, prosecutors, DAs, and cops that can jack off with their stolen power and make us commoners dance at their feet, all while robbing us blind.\n\nAnd especially fuck any politician that either campaigns on or announces in the moment that there'll be great change to all of the above, then gets in office and does fuck all.\n\nI'm absolutely sick of it.", "That’s a neat story. Good for you for sticking to your guns.", "Just wanted to comment that I read the entire thread and agree with you 100%.\n\nIt’s like this guy read the article/comments and watched the video but decided to ignore the actions of the attorney/judge. What they did is unethical and they should all be disbarred for attempting to ruin someone’s life/reputation.\n\nAs for the go fund me…not everyone has the money to pay thousands of dollars for lawyer fees.", "This video should make liberals support the 2nd amendment", "Poor guy :(", "So they kidnapped him.", "This comment. Thank you. >90% of the comments argue \"an injustice\". Yet there is basic civil rules everyone must follow in legal proceedings {Robert's Rules For Order}.", "Yeah we saw how that worked in Minnesota a few weeks ago... a criminally low bail for a huge risk to the public. I doubt he would have been in the \"hold them\" category given how low his bail was.", "Honestly I became very disturbed with the justice system after I had served on jury duty on a personal level, always thought it was broken but once you see the process up close in a court room you see how literally no one feels the gravitas that someone is about to lose their freedom or that sometimes the “victim” and the police department are full of shit. The guy in our case was obviously getting setup by his sister for 10 years of his life. The jury was just like he is guilty I have to go to dinner. Myself and an older gentleman held our ground calling out all of our fellow jurors saying “we feel he did it” what? feel? How bout evidence? So we hung the jury for 12 hours. If my I can give 12 hours up for someone to be free for 10 years, fuck it I am down. Then I walk out of the courtroom and the fucking defense and prosecution are all buddy buddy asking where we getting drinks?", "Ccurrupted enforcers of the law should get the French treatment in full public", "Dont even get me started on how coddled the modern anus is.", "“Giant conspiracies” literally watch the video it’s not that hard. The Prosecution, judge and his own attorneys lied to have him arrested it’s literally in tape", "Regardless of how you rationalize it, this was a determination made well before he supposedly failed to appear. \n\nSeven fucking minutes - if he had a lawyer that cared, that would be irrelevant, but instead he had a lawyer who left early...what the fuck? \n\nThis all started well before the hearing was supposed to occur, but even if we accept that the time wasn't set in stone, the judge herself felt the need to question the presumptiveness of it all, before she went on to manufacture an excuse for it to exist. \n\nI'm not manufacturing excuses for the Defendant, but he seems to be super competent and legit. He's entitled to a presumption of innocence, and that seems to be denied to him in this video, with your help in this conversation. \n\nWhy not just do it the right way, with complete, transparent due process and avoid any argument? Because it's easier to take shortcuts? That shouldn't be allowed in law.", "no. it is not you are confused and thinking of other things. BAIL is a single thing. pay us this to secure your presence in court. they require probable cause that you are a flight risk. if they do not have probable cause that you are a flight risk ANY BAIL AMOUNT above $0 is unconstitutional.", "if you don't beat the ride you lose. its that simple.\n\npeople say why argue on the street? because you can not win any other way. the moment you goto court YOU LOSE\n\nshort of huge payouts which are rare if you goto court you already lost. the only thing court accomplishes is maybe you can lose a little less but either way you already lost.\n\nyou can not win in court. YOU have to pay bail you are compelled at gunpoint to show up no matter what while THEY have infinite funding and are paid overtime to show up.\n\nYou lose. every time. winning in court does not mean you win. it means you Lose slightly less. you still lost.", " R Iiiijjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkje kk juju Kiki", "Pigs gonna pig. Fuck the police.", "You are correct, sir. He was late. If this was a closed-door hearing and locked at 9:01am this post wouldn't cry out the same.", "Then what am I thinking of?", "> sure they started early, expect it\n\ntrolls overrunning this fucking site", "Certainly not a shocking revelation.", "How the fuck am I supposed to know. its your god damned mind not mine\n\nBAIL is very clearly defined and easily looked up. you are 100% not talking about bail therefore you \"ARE\" mistaken or talking about something else.\n\n[https://www.americanbar.org/groups/public\\_education/resources/law\\_related\\_education\\_network/how\\_courts\\_work/bail/](https://www.americanbar.org/groups/public_education/resources/law_related_education_network/how_courts_work/bail/)\n\n\"Bail is the amount of money defendants must post to be released from custody until their trial. \"", "12 angry men", "The lawyer is probably a court appointed attorney who has knowledge about his client that he technically is supposed to disclose as an officer of the court. Don't ever confess to your lawyer.", "Court started 15min early. Guy was late. Judge fined guy.", "I just looked that up, guess I have something to watch.", "Your words have no meaning.", "It’s not just people of color that need to be concerned. These backwoods retards will come after nonPOCs just the same.", "How is it racist to call out how media specifically manipulates narratives based on the race of of the subject?", "It exposes media bias in reporting.", "interestingly from your own link\n\n>Sometimes bail is conditioned on certain behavior of the defendant - for example, that he or she have no contact with the alleged victim.\n\nthough I know in my state and at least 2 other states around mine it isn't \"sometimes\", there are always conditions on the release by default. NY just passed a law that bail has to be \"non monetary\" in most cases now. So bail with no cash part to it is still bail. So money is not always the primary part. \n\nSome people keep telling me that I'm wrong about what bail means, but can't give a defined word for 'releasing someone after an arrest, before a trial, with limitations on their freedoms'. Which I would think anyone that knows quiet a bit about all of this would be able to define what that is.", "He has delayed, filed, and just not shown up to court. Hence why everyone inside is pissed at him.", "It’s very dangerous only knowing one side of a story", "I'm still pretty loath to think its ok to rob someone of several weeks of their freedom for a mood.", "Snoovitar Twins!!! Frog Ranger!!!", "Don’t necessarily get rid of bail, but create a significant pre trial release program. More ankle monitors, more drug and alcohol screening, ensure victims aren’t contacted, etc.", "Ancap moment.", "I'm at a bar on a Monday night drinking after working all day at another bar. I've seen a LOT of drunk as fuck people tonight that are probably gonna get in their cars and drive home with no consequence. The few that deserve the DUIs they will get will process through the system, and even fewer will be able to afford it. Then an even smaller percentage will afford the actions that were put forth in this video cuz they actually fucked up.\n\n\nThis man has tried to deal with his situation in a way that most \"guilty\" parties do and get off with fine or suspension. Still he was met with this gross misrepresentation of our justice system. This makes me sick.", "And for those people, there should not be a 'monetary' amount that would allow them to get out and kill the person. So no, that's not what bail is supposed to be addressing.", "You mean you only watched the video he selectively edited and wanted you to believe? I see why you'd be so willing to defend a drunk driver who had literally no regard for your safety.\n\nhttps://casetext.com/case/state-v-sanchez-1242072\n\nTL:DR - cops called to break up a party at like 2am, he failed to stop at a lawful stop so they followed him, he was pulled over shortly after with empty containers in his vehicle, glazed eyes, smelled of alcohol, failed a sobriety test and failed a blood test and eventually plead guilty.", "Yea man. Like I just said to some one else , it’s very dangerous to only know half of a story. I have zero sympathy for drunks and even less for drunk drivers. Like what’s this dude trying to do by editing a video this heavily", "Yea man. Like I just said to some one else , it’s very dangerous to only know half of a story. I have zero sympathy for drunks and even less for drunk drivers. Like what’s this dude trying to do by editing a video this heavily", "https://casetext.com/case/state-v-sanchez-1242072", "They stated he had been late several times before. I bet that wasn't the first time his attorney lied. Good on him to take notes.", "I've worked in courts. About half the judges have an extreme superiority complex.", "That's worked so well recently. Nothing like letting people out on no or low bail for them to run over a crowd of people.\n\n\n\n\nI know, it wasn't his fault. It was white supremacy and the fault of the SUV manufacturer.\n\n\n\n\nBan SUVs.", "The analogy said 'murder apologist'", "Seems to be common on Reddit these days. Weaponizing outrage with dishonesty.", "When the eel in the sand \nNearly takes off your hand \nThat's a moray.", "Judge would play dumb and probably blame the court reporter for bad clerical errors. This is probably peanuts compared to other stuff she's done. \n\nThe attorney will claim the judge allowed it to facing any possible disbarment. Luckily civil suites are far more flexible in needing to show intent to harm, coercion, etc. He should go after the county when he gets done suing his attorney.", "Bullshit. I call absolute bullshit. Ignore the text in the video, much of it is contradictory and completely unprovable. So what did we see here that was odd?\n\nHe shows up at 908 am. Everybody’s waiting around doing nothing at 840 am, something they’d be doing if his court date were at 845, which was when they initially called him late. He then shows up at 908, late even for the time he claims the trial is in the text. They repeatedly say he was late many, many times prior to this event, he never disputes this in court except later, in the text.\n\nSo what did we see here? A dude who has been late many times to his court dates, who’s missed court dates repeatedly shows up late to court again. He gets a warrant issued for his arrest to bring him to court when he doesn’t show up, this is all straightforward and legal. \n\nSo what’s actually odd here? His lawyer is rather unprofessional, but he’s a public defender, and this Sanchez guy doesn’t seem to give a flying fuck about the law - he’s clearly been to court many, many times before and doesn’t take it seriously. The judge is definitely unprofessional, but she’s still handling things by the books for someone who’s been late many times to court, and warned that if he’s late again he’ll have a warrant issued for his arrest", "Bruh, dude showed up late to his trial, like 25 mins and he’s trying to claim it was at 9 am, which would still make him late. You get a warrant if you show up late, especially if you do it frequently and have been warned about it in the past", "He was supposed to be there at 9, he wasn't there at 9", "Dude why believe this dudes bullshit? He was late for court and he got a warrant issued, something that he was warned about previously. His text is mostly contradictory and even if it’s to be believed and they called his trial early (at 845, everybody in that courtroom is ready for a trial at 845 except the guy who conveniently wrote the text) he was still late for 9 am! And did everybody in the courtroom just consistently make up a story about him showing up late many times, sometimes not even showing up? Something that he doesn’t dispute at all when he has a chance to speak at the mic? Why was the only thing he disputed was that he came in at 908 am (still late btw)??", "The whole bail thing in America is wild, put up $15000 or you just stay in jail? I live in Australia and when we get out on bail in most situations it’s just a written and verbal agreement with a judge you will turn up for court on the set date, I’ve seen some of the bail prices on some cases being over a million like wtf", "Thanks for the details, I am foreign to your justice system, setting Matlock aside.\n\nConfusing and constantly surprising, it is.\n\nI mean I understand that there is a concept of professional conduct and all, but considering what’s going on here, i’d assume that this dramatically violates rights of the defendant. \n\nBasically that guy was abducted and held in custody for no justified reason; should a layman do this to another person, it is a crime.\n\nI also understand concepts of immunity and their importance, but to me this all makes very little sense, especially if there is clear video evidence on how these people deliberately created this situation - for fun? Most of them don’t even personally profit from it.\n\nAnyhow, thanks again for the explanation.", "Yea wasn’t drunk at all. You should go by his word and definitely not the evidence\n\n> The warrant was approved, and the blood test revealed Sanchez's blood alcohol content to be .13%. The State charged Sanchez with failure to stop at the command of a police officer, interference with an arresting officer, DUI, and having an open container in his vehicle.", "Gotta love these enlightened centralist Redditors.\n\nHeaven forbid if someone refers to peadophilia as a crime - THAT just can't go uncorrected dammit! But happy to just band around words like 'retarded' without a care in the world.\n\nIronically too coming from someone who just 2 days ago was crying in a comment thread about how no one would engage in a discussion with them - before making a feeble attempt to take the moral high ground before deleting all their comments. Yeah, no idea why you find it difficult to have discussions with people, it's a mystery....", "If you’re gonna randomly believe some asshole who’s creating a go fund me after his case to sue the court for marking him late after he showed up late to court went nowhere after a year, then yea sure. Wait there’s more to this then he’s saying??\n\n> The warrant was approved, and the blood test revealed Sanchez's blood alcohol content to be .13%. The State charged Sanchez with failure to stop at the command of a police officer, interference with an arresting officer, DUI, and having an open container in his vehicle.", "Pieces of shit. And for what? If he’s guilty, then just prove it. If he’s not, then what harm does it cause anyone.", "Yea because he refused lmao\n\n\n> Officer told Sanchez that he was under arrest for driving under the influence of alcohol (DUI) and transported him to the local police station. At the station, Officer attempted to administer other field sobriety tests but was unable because Sanchez was, in Officer's words, \"passively\" uncooperative.\n\n\n> The warrant was approved, and the blood test revealed Sanchez's blood alcohol content to be .13%. The State charged Sanchez with failure to stop at the command of a police officer, interference with an arresting officer, DUI, and having an open container in his vehicle.\n\nYou could have just googled this bruh", "This dude has to be a fucking alt account of this Sanchez guy, I googled his name and immediately found the police report, I can’t imagine he found all this conspiracy shit about “deleted footage” and never found that there was a blood alcohol test performed", "JoJo, is that you?", "Except that’s not what this asshole did - he ran from the cops who told him to stop, got taken back to the station, refused all sobriety tests, and then they eventually got a warrant and he was still at 0.13, probably hours after they pulled him off the streets\n\n>Officer told Sanchez that he was under arrest for driving under the influence of alcohol (DUI) and transported him to the local police station. At the station, Officer attempted to administer other field sobriety tests but was unable because Sanchez was, in Officer's words, \"passively\" uncooperative.\n\n> The warrant was approved, and the blood test revealed Sanchez's blood alcohol content to be .13%. The State charged Sanchez with failure to stop at the command of a police officer, interference with an arresting officer, DUI, and having an open container in his vehicle.", "Land of the Free!", "Some problems? Have you seen NY? Getting rid of bail is doing nothing but giving criminals a get out of jail free card. Some people have offended over a dozen times in a 24 hour period, others have murdered after being let go. Fuck fail reform. Yeah, bail should affect rich people as well but getting rid of it for poor people is not the answer.", "This is such bullshit. No he lost this case to sue the courts for “wronging” him. This dudes an asshole and making up anything he can to wring money from people on the internet who will believe anything\n\nRiddle me this, why is this gaining steam 5 years after the initial court date? Why is he asking for money, after filing his case in July of last year (17 months ago)? Why is he asking for money 1 YEAR after losing that case completely and entirely? https://casetext.com/case/state-v-sanchez-1242072\n\nWhy is this comment section filled with so many random lies like “he wasn’t even drunk” (he got blood tested as being drunk, he had empty alcohol in the car, he failed all field sobriety tests, and he admitted to drinking)? Why are people claiming he wasn’t even late to court, when it seems rather clear he showed up 22 minutes late (they call it at 845) and even by his own admission he was 8 minutes late?", "Yea that makes sense, dashcams are usually the evidence that prove duis. His blood must have malfunctioned too\n\n> The warrant was approved, and the blood test revealed Sanchez's blood alcohol content to be .13%. The State charged Sanchez with failure to stop at the command of a police officer, interference with an arresting officer, DUI, and having an open container in his vehicle.\n\n\n\nhttps://casetext.com/case/state-v-sanchez-1242072m", "So fucking disgusting literally made me sick to my stomach", "The only fishy details are the random inconsistencies he’s put in his story. He pleaded guilty after stalling the case for years, then he lost his case to sue the courts a year ago and is now just randomly asking for money for “ court fees” or whatever:\n\n> The warrant was approved, and the blood test revealed Sanchez's blood alcohol content to be .13%. The State charged Sanchez with failure to stop at the command of a police officer, interference with an arresting officer, DUI, and having an open container in his vehicle.\n\nHe also had open bottles of alcohol in the car and admitted to driving drunk", "What falsified documents? They call the court at 845 which was probably the time his trial actually was. Even if he were to be believed, his trial was at 9 and he was still late. The judge could have easily not seen him come in and said “you just came in” and the prosecutor says he saw him at 938 which was rather nice of him considering it makes him look way better. Regardless he was late and had showed up late repeatedly in the past, and had several warrants issued for his arrest\n\nFurther than this, this is the fact that he pushed this case for years even though all evidence had him dead to rights. He was driving drunk, admitted it to the cop, had opened alcohol containers in the car, and his blood tested for a BAC of 0.13 hours after he was originally arrested since they needed to get a warrant since he refused a breathalyzer\n\n> The warrant was approved, and the blood test revealed Sanchez's blood alcohol content to be .13%. The State charged Sanchez with failure to stop at the command of a police officer, interference with an arresting officer, DUI, and having an open container in his vehicle.", "I was beyond livid. I happened to see the third public defender out in public a few months later. She was pregnant. I walked up to her and said \"I hope you have a stillbirth.\" \n\n\nI have no guilt over doing that.", "Hey look at this: this guy conveniently lost suing the government for this case (the dui is over 6 years old btw) over a year ago, and he’s just randomly asking for money now for court fees or whatever:\n\nhttps://casetext.com/case/state-v-sanchez-1242072\n\nWhy do you think this guys in danger? Because a cop pulled over his gf while he was in the car (he probably doesn’t have a license anymore after pleading guilty for driving drunk) and they had a heated conversation?", "Mostly watched after seeing the name \"Daniel Torrance\" come up. Wanted to see if the Overlook came up at least once in the conversation. It did not. Just a shitty bunch of people giggling about how they were screwing someone over.\n\nWould have preferred REDRUM.", "I was on a jury that did just that. Main witnesses were a sheriff's deputy and a GA state trooper. They mishandled a lot of things like releases because he was a minor. The DUI was dismissed even though we had to find him guilty of speeding but his lawyer was right to send it to us rather than the young man pleading out.", "Yea, fucking over this guy who drove drunk, then dragged the case out for 5 years. This guy who missed several court appearances and had to get dragged into court with a warrant. This guy who showed up late to this very trial, where he got the standard punishment for someone who doesn’t show up on time to their trial. This poor unlucky man, he’s definitely not fucking himself over, it’s definitely the courts who have caused his easily researchable history of fuck ups:\n\nhttps://casetext.com/case/state-v-sanchez-1242072", "The cop that arrested him Jared Cardon has been charged with crashing a patrol card while high on fentanyl!!! \n\nhttps://www.google.com/amp/s/www.deseret.com/platform/amp/utah/2021/12/2/22814796/utah-officer-charged-with-crashing-patrol-car-while-on-fentanyl-jared-brooks-cardon-dui-painkillers", "Yea these crazy gullible religious people will believe anything, they’ll even believe a dude who shows up late to his court appearance (by his own admission) deserves a punishment for being late. Only real crazy people would believe something like that", "Yes because he was late many times before!! He was also late to this trial by his own admission! What’s the problem you see here other than the unprofessionalism of the judge? This dude dragged out a dui case for 5 years claiming his blood test (they had to get a warrant for it because he refused to be breathalyzed) showed him at twice the legal limit! \n\nHe’s lied repeatedly in these comments, in that videos subtitles, everywhere that benefits him. If you believe he hadn’t showed up late before, like they accused him of, why didn’t he say anything there? Why was his only comment that he was 8 minutes late instead of 38 or 2 hours?", "Why did they do that to him, what was his crime and did he deserve it? I have no clue what it all meant…", "I get your complaint, and it is somewhat warranted. But it does also look like his attorney and the judge were being super unprofessional. His attorney in particular should never say or do anything that would undermine his own client - that's about the worst thing you can do as a lawyer.\n\nIt's possible that just everyone sucks here.", "Look up the uncut video of this trial, it’s here in these comments. Anyone can edit a video to look bad. Further what’s even so bad in this other than the unprofessionalism? He was still late for the trial, he’d been late many times (unless you fully believe him, but why? Everybody in the court just so happened to come up with the same story on the spot?). And why didn’t he say anything about them accusing him of being late/missing court appearances previously there? Why was his only correction about how late he was? His whole story just doesn’t make any sense\n\nAnd also do some further research. Here’s what I found - he tried suing the courts for this original case claiming they took his blood illegally (that’s right he tested for 0.13 BAC after refusing a breathalyzer and they had to get a warrant for his blood at the station). And he lost this case a year ago, but that’s conveniently not mentioned here, instead he’s making some mountain out of the fact that the judge and the prosecutor were wrong about HOW late he was, when why would that matter? Shouldn’t the only thing that matters be that he was late and has a history of being late? And that the punishment for being late is consistent with him repeatedly being late?", "What's some good advice take aways? Except of course \"don't ever talk to police\".", "What are you on about? Did you not watch the video?", "Yea def unprofessional, there’s no question about that in my opinion. Apparently there is a longer video and this is edited to look shitty, but I haven’t seen it. \n\nI think what I haven’t seen talked about enough is how there’s conveniently a gofundme here, and there appears to be a fuckton of misinformation in these comments. I’ve seen several comments claiming that he most likely wasn’t drunk since dashcam video/station video was missing - like who comes up with that excuse? It doesn’t even make sense on the surface: why would a video prove someone was drunk or not? And then If you search his name, you’ll find 4 or 5 articles (worded exactly the same btw) stating he plead guilty because this forfeiture of bond put too much of a financial strain on him, and not the fact that there was overwhelming evidence against him...\n\nI just really hate that so many in this comment section appear to be buying this entire story hook line and sinker. And I think while this unprofessionalism should be called out, there’s far too many people calling for the firing of everyone in this courtroom due to this “corruption of justice”", "Did you? Dude showed up late to court and got the punishment for showing up late to court. He then claims he’s never showed up late before (in the video that is, on the spot the only thing he finds objectionable is exactly how late he was, not the fact that he’d been late before many times, missed court appearances, and been warned that if he was late again this very event would happen). Why’d he not correct them saying he’d been late repeatedly? Why was the only issue to him there the exact amount of time he was late?\n\nSo what’s the big deal here? Obv we have some unprofessionalism by those in the courtroom, but dude was late, and got the normal punishment for not showing up. Where do you see issue? That this public defender predicts that he’ll be late, and is correct?", "People think public defenders are on their side. They’re not. They are part of the working court group. They know and work with everyone in the courtroom on a regular basis. If you can’t afford your own competent attorney, you’re fucked. I hope this guy wins. If it’s happening here, it’s happening everywhere.", "In my misspent youth I got a couple DUIs in Long Beach CA. In one case my lawyer didn't show up 5 times in a row. Each time I waited all day until the judge said \"Why are you here?\" I explained and the judge said \"If he doesn't show up next time I'll dismiss the case\". He showed up and the judge reamed him in front of the court. I said I wanted a court date and they finally reduced the charge to a speeding ticket and I paid a small fine. \n\nThem I quit drinking because I was so worn down by spending time in court.", "If they’re willing to join us in the 21st century with breathos they can stretch to mouth swabs as well.", "Exhibit A folks.", "Yes, but we’re talking about America.", "I don’t think anybody in any of the replies mentioned America", "Google American exceptionalism my friend.", "That one time you were early and got thrown in jail", "What in the fuck?\n\nYou either work in that (or a similar) courtroom, have your priorities all fucked up or are a troll (possibility all 3?).\n\nBut damn.\n\nIt's like you watched a different video than the rest of us.", "I'm going with the worst situation. I feel they never want to waste their time and so will give juicy tidbits here just to be sure they don't mess up the law when making arrest... which I wouldn't be surprised they do all the time.", "You are posting walls of this shit everywhere, do you personally know this guy and have a grudge or are friends with some in the video?\n\nHow many posts will you make raging on him for daring to question authority when that authority is abused?", "He spent two weeks in jail as a result of the warrant for being late.\n\nWhat do you think the appropriate recourse for someone who is 7 minutes late to their trial? I bet your answer isn't two weeks in jail. Hell, that's pretty fucking severe for someone who is an hour and a half late.", "I'm still seething thinking about this. What gets me is that even if he was guilty of all the things they said, being confined for two weeks as a result of being an hour and a half late is ridiculous. That alone is going to cost most people their job. There is no system in which that is improving society. I get that the court needs its time to be respected, it's a cost to us, etc. etc. Something like being required to pick up trash for an afternoon seems way more appropriate.", "Thank you for that. I am not too familiar with the US codes.", "I'm convinced you and free_coffee are either the people in the video or are friends/family because you guys are raging all over this post about this guy daring to question why his right to a fair trial and defense wasn't honored here. \n\nThis is supposed to be our legal system are you really OK with shit like this regardless of who this guy is or what he did (or if he could have fought through all those people to arrive 7 minutes sooner despite the fact he was ruled late before her was actually late).\n\nCmon.", "hell yeah look at the law doing it's job and making the world a better place by denying you opportunity because you smoked recreational drugs. \n\n\nThis fucking world, man. I'm sorry. That shit makes my blood boil.", "Exactly. If your case is at 9 then plan on being their at 8 that way if some unforeseen problem comes up your still good. Stop with the excuses", "It scares me how many people are willing to strip people's freedom over 7 minutes while disregarding the rest of the video.\n\nWhat made you this way?", "And if you can’t afford that bail, you go to a bail bondsman or bondswoman who will pay the bail on your behalf for 10%. They keep that money, as in that’s their interest on the loan. If you skip on bail they go after you with bounty hunters. \n\nIt’s a racket.", "You have to say that you wish to exercise your right to remain silent. There was apparently a case where someone just didn't talk and they used that as evidence of guilt. \n\n\nDon't assume they caught you red handed, even if they caught you red handed. \n\n\nThe rest that I can remember was pretty much different forms of \"don't ever talk to police\", lol.", "I said whoosh because obviously no one actually thinks the USA is a poor country. Wealth inequality being at the absurd levels they are currently at is a separate issue, and of course I agree that the USA seems to have the most affluent areas on the planet, as well as the least.", "When there is a revolution.. the courts are the first to be taken", "It was for drunk driving,he still claims inocence but had to plead guilty due to the mounting costs.sounds like his attorney was a dog from the start though.", "Doesn't matter. Either way he had the right to have it proven or disproven at trial, and it was taken from him", "The thing about disgusting corruption like this is when they happen to get caught think of all the times they’ve done this before. Also when police or judges or anyone is positions of power commit offenses it should be prosecuted exceedingly more given their power. The are paid to be upstanding leaders of our community, NOTHING less.", "I’m sorry, but watching this as a lawyer, you guys all have absolutely no clue what you’re talking about and are buying into nonsense subtitles in a YouTube video that were almost certainly created by people close to the defendant.\n\nIf you’re summoned to court for any reason, get your ass there. If you don’t, you can be thrown in jail, or detained for the entirety of the proceeding. You are released on bond, not as a right to freedom, as a courtesy of the court. If you choose to miss ANY proceedings, or deprioritize the process, in jail waiting for trial is where you belong.\n\nHis defense attorney isn’t an enemy of the court. Every attorney, be it your defense attorney or whoever, has a first duty of candor to the court. None of the people involved in this proceeding determine the guilt of innocence of the defendant, that would happen at trial if one is to come.\n\nThis defense attorney almost certainly has dozens and dozens of clients, he doesn’t have some personal vendetta against this one guy to lose his case. Instead, unlike the defendant who doesn’t make his obligations a priority, this attorney has work to do and actually shows up for it. Being late ONCE or missing a hearing are both completely unacceptable, justifiable reasons for jail time.\n\nIt amazes me how little people know about the trial process, but everyone without familiarity with the legal system is going to be dumber and less informed after watching this highly misleading video, compiled by a dolt.", "enforcing the rules of the Court is no \"Mood\". YOU try running a docket with hundreds of cases at any kind of successful rate when the defendants simply refuse to be on time. It's impossible to accomplish without enforcing some general rules.", "Oh look another example of the pointlessly shitty American justice system that seems predominantly designed to create revenue rather than prove guilt and the follow-up arguments of people yelling yeah but fuck you we're number 1.", "No, I can just see through his BS editing of the video. \n\nAnd everyone knows to arrive early for your court date. Even docket courts.\n\nNo way the DA or Public Defender would drag out a DUI for over 5 years. I think his DUI is from 2018 from searching online. So 3 years?\n\nBut that's not important. I've never heard of a DUI going to a jury trial.\n\nIf he wanted a jury trial he should not be delaying the courts. By being late. And by dragging out his DUI further delaying the courts.\n\nIf you've ever been to court or been summoned, they mention specific to arrive early and wait outside the court so that you can be let in at 9 am.\n\nThey don't then wait another 30 minutes standing around doing nothing. \n\nYou are supposed to arrive at 8:30 am stand around and do nothing outside of the court. Its very normal.", "Lmfao which part of your comment is that supposed to clarify?", "Viktor Medvedchuk, the second-most, or most powerful man in Ukraine, has started his career by being this - a defense lawyer whose job it was to conspire with prosecution to better entrap the client. He was assigned to \"defend\" poets, writers, artists and scholars, greatly aiding the Bolsheviks at ripping out several generations of Ukraine's cultural heritage.\n\nHe is so powerful today that even the President can barely hurt him.", "Still can't deny it, you're a racist fuck. \n\nCongrats! You've been reported!", "In Canada bail is just release, you'll have stipulations like no alcohol or drugs and no contact orders, it only has a cash element if you're asked, or offer to provide a surety. That surety would be held by the court, and the court is responsible for it as well as the apprehension of fugitives who fail to appear for whatever reason.", "Sounds like Canada..", "> Have you seen NY?\n\nYes, I live here.\n\n> Getting rid of bail is doing nothing but giving criminals a get out of jail free card.\n\nNo, you are *absolutely* full of shit.\n\n> Some people have offended over a dozen times in a 24 hour period, others have murdered after being let go.\n\nThis is absolutely straight propaganda, at least as is relevant to bail reform.", "Sounds like bail wasn't the solution then, was it?", "It's amazing you can point to an incident where bail failed to solve the problem\n\nas an argument for why we need bail.\n\nDo you spend *any* time thinking about the arguments you're making?", "small city judges are terrifying", ">nonsense subtitles in a YouTube video \n\nWell there's also audio. Yes the video probably has some bias, but it's the only source we have, along with the linked articlem. The public defender's office rebuttal is currently b\"nuh-uh\" so they didn't add much to go on. \n\nNext some of what many people are taking issue with is the system, whether it was legally right or not. Putting someone in jail for two weeks for being late to a court hearing is absurd. It won't fix anything, and will likely cause more harm. \n\n>If you’re summoned to court for any reason, get your ass there\n\nYou heard the audio, did they not decide to go for a warrant well before the case was called? Did they not call his case before the appointed time? Did they not lie about the warrant time, lie about when he actually arrived? The subtitles didn't create the audio where they did those things. \n\n>his defense attorney almost certainly has dozens and dozens of clients,\n\nSure, I get PD offices are overworked, and that's a different issue, but they lied, it's on tape. Wouldn't being overworked pressure them to take the easy way out (settle vs trial)? This is an issue that gets talked about fairly often. That's not acting in his clients interest. According to the article, this video was 3 years after the arrest, how is that reasonable? Not to mention the fuckery from the police with the video. \n\n> actually shows up for it.\n\nAgain per our sources, the person only one who didn't show for a court date was the public defender. The article gave an opportunity to refute this and they didn't. \n\n>being late ONCE or missing a hearing are both completely unacceptable, justifiable reasons for jail time.\n\nI disagree, this will just make issues worst long term, two weeks in jail, and $15,000 bond is a clear attack on those without money. Making someone jobless or worse over this is not a reasonable response. Put them in jail for a night ok, go for it I guess. But the response was disproportionate to the action (which he didn't even commit, since it was called early, then he was there the next time it was called after the appointed time). \n\n\n>video, compiled by a dolt.\n\nSeems to be a bit of bias here from you. What kind of attorney are you if you don't mind me asking?", "Kinda like your entire existence", "Falsifying court documents in order to wrongfully imprison someone doesn’t just *look bad*.", "The judge literally says, “What time should we say the case was called?” And then they all invent a time when the case was not actually called.", "I missed a court date so the bench warrant was set at 50,000$ 10% to apply. Noone was hurt and i blew under the limit and disnt submit to a blood test. I was on 2 pills of x and had 2 beers and the officer suspected i was on something but could not prove it", "Typical response when one has no argument. Attack the person instead. You should spend more time trying to enjoy your life instead of trying to hurt others (unsuccessfully).", "Nonetheless, he should have shown up sooner, I never excused what happened to him but he should have been there earlier.\n\nI mentioned before that he was railroaded and it's true, but he was still late. If precedings are starting 30 min before he \"has\" to be there then maybe it's a good idea to be there 30 min before he's supposed to.\n\nThis wouldn't have happened to me or many others because we wouldn't have been late. \n\nIt amazes me that people do everything to skirt personal responsibility in a world that takes advantage of you. \"That cop shouldn't have shot him, who cares if he grabbed another cops gun!\"\n\nIt's the same shit here, yeah he's being fucked but he put himself in that position to start with. Let's not gloss over that fact so it's a learning lesson for others as well. Don't want to get railroaded by a system that is designed to prey on the poor, show up early so you can help prevent that.", "Also, i didnt go to trial i took a plea deal, bad public defender. Im well aware on how the law works.", "If the truth would’ve justified the arrest, than isn’t falsifying the court records the opposite of CYA? In what world is falsifying the official timeline here okay? In what world is that less of risk than being honest if the facts are on your side anyway?\n\nJust to be clear, lying because you’re lazy doesn’t make it *less* of a miscarriage of justice. The motive doesn’t matter nearly as much as the actions.\n\nThe only way anyone could think this course of action is less risky is if they think they’re ensconced in a system that will never hold them accountable for lying in court.", "Dude, he was getting fucked before he was even supposed to be there. He never had a chance. You're missing the point. Being late doesn't explain what happened to him.\n\nAlso *he wasn't late*. He had until 9:15. They arrested him for being late when he wasn't late and his lawyer played a part in making that happen. That's the issue.", "Lmao okay\n\nHave you coined anymore racist shower thoughts that you want to share with us???? \n\nYou’re like a racist Prometheus", "So, no innocent until proven guilty?", "Yeah, they offered a $45,000 settlement for nothing. Get real.", "It is absolutely not propoganda, I live here too. If you maybe looked at media sources that weren't disingenuous or told you only what you want to hear, you would see what I am talking about. I am absolutely not full of shit, your cognitive dissonance just doesn't allow you to see what's going on. Bail reform neuters police and the court system. Criminals should not be allowed to reoffend so easily.", "I've been on a murder trial and didn't enjoy myself. That and missing two weeks of work when my evenings where spent on the phone with the guys getting things set for the next day pissed me off. Having been on the receiving end of bold faced lies doesn't help either", "What precisely is racist about it? Don't just call it racist as if your declaration wills it into existence. Support your claim or stfu.", "It’s impossible to have a conversation with you on this because you don’t know what you don’t know. Your points may sound reasonable in your mind because you don’t know how any of this works, but their mostly based on ignorance. I don’t have the time to give you a 3 month procedure course followed by con law and a smattering of criminal law. If you want to go to law school so you have the ability to understand this stuff, go right ahead.\n\n“Well there’s audio”—so freaking what? Semantics as to how the information is conveyed? This is a pathetic attempt at drumming up something to disagree on.\n\nPlanning the warrant at the point was well beyond justified. Most clients are told to be at court an hour before the proceedings. If he has missed before, queueing up the proper process to get him into custody without delaying further proceedings is the right move. Further, it has absolutely no force of law until executed, so what is your point? They didn’t execute a warrant on him at 8:45 AM. You’re objecting to their planning process. Total nonsense.\n\nAnd no, they did not lie about anything. This guy was treated beyond fairly, with the guarantee of rights that are found in no non-democratic constitutional republics. All that’s required of him is that he follow court orders. It’s too bad he’s a bad person, a criminal, a scumbag who can’t hold to his obligations, but maybe if he had a better attitude/higher standards and contributed to society he wouldn’t be in the legal system anyway. He’s not a victim. He’s a criminal.\n\nAgain, they didn’t lie.\n\nAgain, the judge would handle that and any needed discipline if it happened. Even the biased subtitles mention that he has missed hearings in the past. He’s also been late at least once. These are no-tolerance sins. You do not miss court hearings when you are summoned. It’s different if a defendant misses than an attorney misses. The former is incomparably worse, something you don’t understand because you don’t know the system.\n\nI don’t care if you disagree and find this problematic. The guy deserves to be punished and it doesn’t make the “problem worse”. Letting him wander around committing crimes and blowing off the consequences, disrespecting the court by not showing up, etc. is what makes things worse. He’s supposed to deal with tremendous punishment and inconvenience for not taking this stuff seriously. Hopefully 2 weeks in prison and 15k will change his worldview. Breaking the law isn’t supposed to be rewarded with leniency, so don’t freaking do it.\n\nI am an attorney, and you are not. Neither is the person who compiled the video. I have an educated opinion on these things, you do not. So you don’t have to like it, but it doesn’t matter because you don’t know what you’re talking about. And I can see a deceptive video designed to trick laypersons, like yourself, which is why the video is compiled by a dolt.\n\nYou’re now blocked, and you need to change your life. Instead of thinking criminals are victims and trusting YouTube videos, trust non-criminals and listen to experts. Being a decent human being is pretty simple.", "So racist he doesn’t even know how he does it!\n\nGenerational talent", "Be careful with the .13% hours after the arrest. Many attorneys have used the rising blood alcohol defense successfully under those exact circumstances.", "The way to move forward with this argument is for you to provide evidence of your claims. I know you can't because what you're saying is absolutely not true. I know you *didn't* because you can't.\n\nWhat you are saying does not reflect reality. It's tabloid nonsense that gets repeated by bail reform critics and is *thoroughly* unsubstantiated.\n\nYou can *say* that shit, but you can't back it up with evidence.", "Yea I dunno PDs really should be there through the whole docket. It’s not that I don’t have questions for them either, but enough people seem to be asking them here that it’s worth taking a look at the other side.\n\nHe’s entitled to the assumption of innocence for his charges but he hasn’t been charged with anything, not really an applicable presumption for an FTA.\n\nI bet they wish they had done it the right way, but the fact is there are a lot of people who are very bad at their job. Doesn’t mean conspiracy, and it doesn’t mean he has not culpability.", "Yea I know what his take is. Let’s see how his 1983 trial goes", "50k bond is extremely high. I dunno maybe you live in a fucked up place where they fuck around with the law. Sorry to hear that.\n\nGlad no one was hurt. Did you plead it down to DWAI", "No i got tricked into taking court supervision, cook county is crooked as hell. Aka crook county", "Oh fuck yea my brother worked in a low level staffer job for an alderman for a few years. He told me about the shit that goes on in Chicago fuck that", "I mean what is your point? It's ok for your public defender to conspire with the judge against you if you're not early enough to court? That's ridiculous. There's a literal conspiracy going on and you're all hung up on this timelines issue, move past it.", "So then, nothing but an empty claim. About what I expected from you.and therefore your opinion is rendered irrelevant.", "> So, no innocent until proven guilty?\n\nCorrect, the concept of 'innocent until proven guilty' is not as simple as the phrase. There are many steps to it, from investigating by the police, to the jury making a decision. If the actual practice of it was as simple as the phrasing it would be impossible to accomplish anything. If innocent till proven guilty, then no warrant could ever be issued for someones house to see if they have xyz in there, because of course they are innocent so their liberties can't be curved. If there was a mass shooting, no one could be accused as the perp. 'the guy had a green shirt and a purple ball cap on' 'hey that guy has a green shirt and a purple ball cap, lets detain him and ask him some questions and get a warrant to look through his bag' 'can't do it sir, he is innocent and we have no proof he is guilty, as such we can't detain him'. \n\nall my examples sound 'out there' because they are. Society couldn't function under those concepts. Peoples liberties have to be curtailed to a limited amount while an investigation and trial go on, as you get closer to \"this is the person\" the more liberties you can remove from the person.", "[You're](https://nypost.com/2021/12/06/man-busted-on-assault-freed-then-allegedly-beats-2-women/)\n\n[just](https://nypost.com/2021/11/29/rfk-bridge-assault-suspect-was-released-without-bail-just-3-weeks-ago/?utm_source=facebook_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site+buttons&utm_campaign=site+buttons)\n\n[fucking](https://midhudsonnews.com/2021/12/03/hyde-park-man-charged-with-sexual-abuse-of-child/)\n\n[wrong](https://nypost.com/2021/11/28/nyc-man-correctly-predicts-hell-dodge-bail-after-3-busts-in-36-hours/)\n\n[but](https://nypost.com/2021/11/15/ex-con-who-once-tried-to-kill-nypd-cop-is-freed-without-bail/)\n\n[whatever](https://www.google.com/amp/s/abc7ny.com/amp/teen-shot-13-year-old-wakefield-bronx/11264613/)\n\n[helps](https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2021/11/04/ny-man-luis-gabriel-ramos-accused-of-double-murder-less-than-a-week-after-being-freed-without-bail/amp/)\n\n[you](https://midhudsonnews.com/2021/11/08/pa-man-arrested-twice-in-48-hours-in-sullivan-county-under-new-yorks-bail-law/)\n\n[sleep](https://ithacavoice.com/2021/11/charges-announced-in-arrests-from-tuesday-manhunt/)\n\n[at](https://westchester.news12.com/two-people-are-dead-now-because-of-these-laws-yonkers-homicides-spur-bail-reform-complaints)\n\n[night,](https://nypost.com/2021/10/02/nyc-man-leads-record-shattering-shoplifting-surge-with-46-arrests/?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&sr_share=facebook&utm_source=NYPFacebook&utm_medium=SocialFlow)\n\n[ignoramus.](https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/ny-man-attacked-two-ems-members-brooklyn-20211008-rlvxkwrzkvd7xhnl5mrvt7ize4-story.html)\n\nThat was about 10 minutes of google searches. Wake up and smell the roses pal because the shitty policies you support are causing an obvious increase in crime that only dumb fucks like you couldn't see coming.", "Oh and hey btw I’ve been out of my adhd meds for 3 weeks (fucking kaiser) which means I’m extremely anxious and this irritable.\n\nGot ‘em filled last night and feeling better.\n\nSo, I’m sorry if I was a bit aggressive here. You’re a good egg. Blessings and shit be upon you", "Like that time kamala Harris promoted a bail fund for rioters then one of the guys released killed someone?", "Is there a link to his gofundme page?", "It is absolutely astounding to me that you and several others think the silver bullet argument against eliminating bail\n\n\nis to point to an incident where *bail* was offered.\n\n**Clearly** bail is not a solution to that problem!\n\nSo I guess my reply is\n\n> Like that time kamala Harris promoted a bail fund for rioters then one of the guys released killed someone?\n\nNo, not like that. The *opposite* of that.", "Police and all", "Fucking Jon Burge literally fucking tortured people", "> That was about 10 minutes of google searches.\n\nSpend ten minutes more and find some that are actually a problem caused by bail reform. Do you even understand what bail reform *is*? You're just repeating tabloid propaganda, you don't even seem to understand the issue you're so vehemently against at all.\n\nFirst off, pointing to isolated incidents is a sure sign that you're following your emotions, not any data. You've found no basis for your position, you're just chasing your emotions for what you *want* to be true.\n\nSecond off, even those isolated incidents aren't relevant here, as the bigger issue is that they're being undercharged-- a position Cy Vance is fucking *notorious* for, as he refuses to charge anyone properly with assault unless they have long-term debilitating problems. That's not a bail problem, that's a Cy Vance problem.\n\nThe NYPost always blames everything on bail reform, have you bothered actually figuring out if bail reform is causing these problems?\n\nThat was rhetorical, don't bother.\n\nYou don't even understand the thing you're whining about.\n\nYou can keep throwing out the ad hominem attacks if it makes you feel better, but it's not a replacement for actual evidence to support your claims-- which you still didn't manage to find.", ">The incentive to do a good job should come from the politicians trying to keep the electorate happy. That's how it works in any good country\n\nHoly fuck, that would be terrifying. I guess you think its good as long as your partys in power", "Ugh, just ugh. Especially at that second paragraph.", "How would that be the opposite? He was clearly locked up from participating in a violent riot. Maybe violent offenses shouldn’t be released? I’m fine with your plan, bail disproportionately effects the poor.", "Yeah I mean I never expect to change some rando on the internet's mind, but I knew getting into this that I especially was not going to change your mind because everything that goes against what you already think is \"Tabloid propoganda\" and news sources (Which there were more than just NY post, I know you didn't follow all the links) that report on it are just doing it because they're anti-bail reform and not because it is causing a fuck ton of issues and more victims. And evidence of what I claimed, i.e. repeat offenders released on bail reform is exactly what I provided. I called you an ignoramus after you already made a lot of assumptions about me and my motivations. Bail reform may help some first-time offenders who were down on their luck, but it's mostly just helping career criminals get back on the street to reoffend. \n\nEnjoy living in your little bubble. Hope you never have to deal with being attacked or robbed by someone who should have been in jail already.", "You might have a point if they were trying to claim he came in at 908. But they all blatantly no try to claim he came in much later than that. Plus you are assuming he came in late before when the video explains there is paperwork that contradicts their claims he was late or a no show before. Yes, he was a little late but these guys are blatantly lying trying to make it look like he was egregiously late. They aren’t even trying to use the truth to do so.", "> I never expect to change some rando on the internet's mind\n\nI'm open to changing my mind based on data.\n\nDo you *have* any?\n\nI explained already why isolated incidents aren't data to base your position on.\n\nDo you **have** any data to base your position on?\n\n> Which there were more than just NY post, I know you didn't follow all the links\n\nI looked at every single one. I opted not to discuss the ones that **blatantly** had nothing to do with bail reform-- of which there were several. Funny, because I was actually wondering if *you* read your own sources, or if you just clicked on random links that came up when you googled \"new york crime bail\" or something.\n\n> repeat offenders released on bail reform is exactly what I provided.\n\nYou haven't provided evidence that indicates bail reform has done more harm than good. As I've explained several times now, finding *isolated incidents* is not evidence to base a broad position on, no more than it would be more me to find *isolated incidents* of people being unjustly held in jail due to bail and basing my position on that.\n\nParticularly when, as your links show, bail reform isn't even the issue in these situations. I explained *that* already, too.\n\n> I called you an ignoramus after you already made a lot of assumptions about me and my motivations. \n\nYou called me an ignoramus because it made you feel good. I didn't make assumptions about you, I responded to your claims.\n\n> but it's mostly just helping career criminals get back on the street to reoffend.\n\nYou have provided no evidence of that. Anecdotal evidence is meaningless, particularly when you can't even identify those incidents as a result of bail reform. Again, you don't seem to even *understand* bail reform. If you think people being let go is a symptom of bail reform, you don't understand bail reform.\n\nI'll say it one last time and then I'm out, you're chasing your emotions and are getting frustrated that no one's willing to accept that as evidence for your position on bail reform.\n\n> Hope you never have to deal with being attacked or robbed by someone who should have been in jail already.\n\nI hope not either, and proper bail reform will prevent exactly that.", "Hardly", "Highly organized civil disobedience will need to be engrained into our culture.\n\n\nIt’s the type of thing that seems like it won’t work, until it does.", "Well written, I can't say I had any trouble spending the extra thirty seconds to look up an acronym or two.\n\nI guess it's easier to attack your use of acronyms than the information.", "That's why it's known as the social contract, where we give the police power and agree to follow their rules and in return they keep us safe and society orderly. These days the police have more or less torn up the social contract, so there's little reason for us to uphold our end of the deal if they won't do theirs.", "Except even these days exposure often isn't enough. There have been some high profile takedowns sure, but too often the exposed information just isn't reported on, or it is but the perpetrator faces no legal consequences and just rides out the public outrage until the attention span of the public is directed towards something else.", "When People are jailed based on bureaucracy and not morality", "It was also to do with the police doing the work of social workers and other things besides policing (which they are not trained at all for). The police were supposed to have reduced funding, and that funding was to be redirected towards these other services that were in turn, supposed to take that part of the workload away from the police, so they could focus on just being police.", "He had a history of being late and not showing up. This isn't really surprising behaviour from this guy, based off publically available information.", "Yeah OJ, Trump and Bill Cosby are walking scot free and the guy selling a gram of pot is put away for 10 years.\n\n\"Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?\"", "At least in the case of OJ and Cosby, they were actually charged and it went to trial, unlike many others, such as Trump, who at this stage has only had to deal with impeachment (which is a political process, not a legal trial) and civil lawsuits.", "Minimum Requirements to be a Police Officer in Texas\r \nEducation High School Diploma or G.E.D.\r \nCitizenship US Citizen.\r \nOther Requirements.\r \nNever been convicted of any family violence offense;\r \nNot prohibited by state or federal law from operating a motor vehicle\n\nMaybe we should expect better from the ones we entrust to protect us.", "Holy shit how many armchair lawyers are there in this thread?? \n\n\nDude was late MULTIPLE times to his court hearings, even flat out missed one. He was late to this one and a bench warrant was issued, that's standard procedure.\n\nI don't trust the police, and I think our court system is fucked, but this is just normal shit. Show up on time or pay the price it's that fucking simple.", "Fuck me. Where I live, the training course at the police academy takes at least 2 years, and is considered equivalent to a university bachelors degree. Hell I've seen more strict job requirements at just standard office jobs.", "I guess we have it a little better than those in China or Russia where people just go missing, never to be seen again if they have differing points of view than the ruling party ☣", "Never said it was ok, man how many times do I have to say the guy was railroaded. Does not change the fact that he could have avoided it by not being late/being early.", "If they start calling cases at 8:45 then he should have been there by 8:30, does that mean he deserved what happened to him? Absolutely not, could it have been avoided, absolutely!\n\nCrossing the road without looking doesn't mean a person should be hit by an inattentive driver, but we look before crossing the road for out own safety. In both instances the person (crossing the road and Mr Sanchez) does not deserve what is happening but in both instances it could have been avoided entirely by a little personal responsibility.", "I don't understand why you feel the need to emphasize that over and over but yeah, you're technically right. Amidst this tale of unconscionable government corruption, there's a mini-lesson about timeliness that's really important to you for some reason.", "Why would they need to issue the warrant 15 minutes before his scheduled time and then grossly lie about when he arrived? Those details do matter. Not to mention the prosecution/defense collusion. You are glossing over a lot of stuff.", "Well organized crime. 😂", "Yeah, go get your degree from G.E.D", "What? I'm accusing you of being full of shit, you just claimed I've never faced any real consequences for being a decent person and now you're off on some new bullshit. We can now add \"lacks basic reading comprehension skills\" to the list of reasons you are pitiable.", "It's the sheer **giddyness** all of these court officials display while ruining a man's life that really sticks with me. \n\nI don't know what America is going to do when people realize that our criminal justice system is critically and fundamentally broken, but I can promise you that ratfinks like the ones in this video better hope they never have to find out.", "I agree, the prosecutor and defense attorney should be arrested for obstruction of justice", "It's not that it's important to me, it should be important to everyone when dealing with the law. \n\nThe guy is getting screwed and I bet no matter the outcome he would have and feel he would have been better off if he was there 30 min sooner.\n\nWhile I'm sympathetic, it only goes so far. I hope he wins his case, I hope justice is served and yet I hope he learns the importance of being early for things in the future. Be it a doctor's appointment, job interview or any dealings with the law or courts. \n\nIt amazes me how people are willing to put their lives and freedoms in the hands of others when they themselves have the ability to secure it themselves. \n\nThe sad part is, reddit would be singing a different tune if this guy caused an accident with his DUI. They would be cheering what happened to him and saying they wish stuff like that for people like him would happen more often. Yet I would be the one saying he should have shown up early and he's being railroaded. \n\nYou know it and I know it!", "The problem is, it's not considered hearsay because the cop is a witness. An honest one? Seems very unlikely. But in Mr. Sanchez and sooooooo many others' cases, it all boils down to what the cop says happened vs what the defendant says happened, and sadly courts tend to bias in favor of cops' testimonies even when all the evidence to support their testimony has mysteriously disappeared. Especially (but certainly not exclusively) in racist, ass-backwards states like Utah, Idaho, Texas, Alabama...\n\nAnother component to this as well is private prisons. It has happened more than once that judges unnecessarily incarcerated innocent or not-that-heinous offenders because the nearest private for-profit prison would give them a kickback on each prisoner (because the prison was getting more money for each prisoner). Imo, [this is the most disturbing and egregious example out there](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kids_for_cash_scandal) as it involved children. I wouldn't be at all surprised to later learn that the judge, prosecutor and public defender are getting kickbacks from a local private prison for every person locked away, justly or not.", "Time to terminate everyone’s employment, LEO certifications and bar membership who participated in this. I wonder how many have temple recommends, hypocrisy is out of control in Utah. Such wonderful and worthy people, obviously.", "I guess understanding how an appearance bond works made me this way. I don't know why this is controversial. Had he been on time, he wouldn't have gone to jail. That's not some cold hearted opinion I hold, that's a fact.", "I agree that you are fucking simple. Why was he offered $45k to drop his case against his lawyers? Rhetorical question because you obviously don't and can't comprehend what happened in the video. Rofl what was their plan if he was on time? You can see him trying to get in the door around 9am. Why didn't his attorney make any effort to call him to make sure he wasn't in a car accident or something? Why did they have to lie about his case being called after 9 when it was called at 8:45? Rofl the lady lawyer almost forgot about the plan but the other lawyer had to make tee time and so reminded her to step back to the podium to fuck over their client. He knew he had to beat the clock to pull this off! Watch how fast that dick rushes out of the courtroom!\n They had to conspire with the prosecution since they can't ask for it AND be defending him at the same time. I'm not trying to convince you of anything, just pointing out that your ability to perceive reality is broken and that is sad. Tough break kid, I don't think there is a cure for your condition.", "The criminal justice system is fucked. Call it criminal injustice system", "I've always wanted jury duty for the same opportunity, way to go!", "Liberals do, \"progressives\" don't", "Yeah man, I'll be sure to be extra early to my next court appointment in case the whole court system is corrupt and actively working against me. Thanks for emphasizing that again.", "You can have a differing opinion here, but if you've actually got dirt on someone important and try to bring it to light you might end up suicided.", "When our laws and legal system are eroded to this extent its revolution time. Let's go!", "45k is the cost of litigating, they want it to go away because it's going to cost more to litigate than 45k.\n\nYou aren't a lawyer let alone a litigator so you really don't know what you are talking about. if you don't belive me sort by controversial and look at all the actual lawyers telling the brain dead morons in this post how this isn't corruption and is just pretty much standard procedure.", "They get paid and can move on to the next client I mean victim", "Found the racist boot licker.", "She retired after the video came out.", "But the judge is lying and it's on video. The judge that retired when the video went public. The video that his law firm tried to get scrubbed and even offered him $45k to stop his lawsuit.", "You are so full of shit", "Bigotry", "Also, she almost forgets about the plan and Torrence has to push her back to the podium. Then he rushes out of the courtroom.", "Cool, thanks. \n\n*Obviously* I have a hidden agenda to go around lying about good people who are being cheated.\n\nOh, wait, no: he's a drunk-driving liar (and the drunk-driving part isn't even disputed by *him*) and this video is blatantly edited in his favor.\n\nSeriously, just [look at the basic facts](https://old.reddit.com/r/SaltLakeCity/comments/raapnk/west_jordan_judge_defense_attorneys_prosecutors/hnhuof1/). It doesn't take 5 years to get a drunk driving case finished.", "........ I mean you are so tunnel visioned on twisting things to match the desired outcome you want to end up with instead of just reading what is in front of you\n\n\"Sometimes bail is conditioned on certain behavior of the defendant\"\n\nRead that carefully.\n\nGasoline: a combustible petroleum based liquid fuel. Gasoline is often used in Automobiles\n\nSO gasoline = automobiles?\n\nBail: Money paid to secure your presence in court. Sometimes bail is conditioned on certain behavior.\n\nSo again\n\n\"Sometimes bail is conditioned on certain behavior of the defendant\"\n\nRead that carefully", "The video clearly shows that some lawyers are total pieces of shit. Not surprising that some of these asshole lawyers are commenting here. I guess they aren't making a good enough case if they are being downvoted so hard. Are there no lawyers agreeing with the claims of the video in this massive thread? Hmm? There are always shitbags in the bottom of these threads who deserve the downvotes. Controversial aka see what the trolls are saying? I like how you somehow know I'm not a lawyer and magically know the ones claiming to be are. You are a troll and also the worst kind, boring zzZZ", "That's just what a liar would say.", "Yea because a lot the people responding claiming to be lawyers or ex lawyers sound like lawyers. They use terminology and legalise that are pretty common in the field. Beyond that, their analysis is more or less spot on.\n\nYou just sound like a 19 year old with room temp IQ.", "How is it possible that you aren't able to extend this *exact* level of skepticism to a video of a guy with a GoFundMe, especially when there's plenty of good evidence that you should?", "Because there is a fucking video of your buddy trying to put his client in jail. Does he play golf or not? 😂", "Here is another take on what's happening here\n\nhttps://old.reddit.com/r/SaltLakeCity/comments/raapnk/west_jordan_judge_defense_attorneys_prosecutors/hnhuof1/", "I think the dead people run over by a dude in an SUV might beg to differ", "I watched the video and I don't see where the judge is lying. :shrug:\n\nMaybe you can tell me which part you mean?", "Feel free to view some of the other comments that have already said that for my response; I don't have the energy to address how dumb that point is *again*.", "No, he does not play golf. Public defenders make shit money; he can't afford that.\n\nThe video is edited to hell and back with no timestamps and you believe it without question, despite there being ample evidence that it's bullshit.\n\nIt's actually sad that you're so easily conned that you'll support a drunk driver whose only goal is to screw with the government and avoid responsibility based *only* on his obvious editing and one-sided narration.", "What's pitiable is you still replying after getting caught making up bullshit.\n\nTake your L and move on doormat.", "So after all this, we're back to the \"i'm rubber and you're glue\" defense. It is actually funny.", "And you're back to have the last word for your ego.\n\nGotta love how quick you are to reply to this but not when you get called out on your bullshit and need to respond 15 hours afterwards LOL.", "> Gotta love how quick you are to reply to this\n\nhe said, responding within two minutes\n\n>and need to respond 15 hours afterwards\n\nYeah some of us have jobs and sleep schedules, ace.", "> he said, responding within two minutes\n\nYeah because I'm surfing Reddit now? I didn't leave for 15 hours then return to have the last word like yourself to keep my fragile ego intact. \n\n> Yeah some of us have jobs and sleep schedules, ace.\n\nWhat a dumbass excuse when you know damn well you have downtime within those 15 hours. You just avoided responding till now.", "yeah because what I really wanted to do with my downtime in my sleep/work window was hop on reddit to point out how pathetic you are. boy that really just turns my crank, y'know it?\n\n>Yeah because I'm surfing Reddit now?\n\nIt's amazing how well this line of yours makes the point I was trying to make way upthread - you don't exist outside the walls of your own needs. You are literally incapable of recognizing that this same thing might be true of me. Like your sense of empathy was trimmed right out of your head at birth.", "Add a TL;DR since I'm not reading all that mess from someone with a fragile ego.", "Blood draw was a 0.13 BAC", "Testifying as to something observed directly isn't hearsay. Hearsay is an out of court statement offered to prove the truth of the matter asserted. Testifying \"that I saw defendant do X\" isn't hearsay. A crime doesn't have to be on video. We still had trials long before video existed.", ">While we’re on this, are field sobriety tests still a thing? Surely a breatho is the superior option.\n\n\nBecause FSEs provide probable cause to ask for a breath sample. The little handheld things are worthless. The actual breathalyzer is down at the station. So you go throughout the exercises before deciding to arrest and taking them down to the station to blow.\n\n\n>but cops are usually considered “experts” aren’t they?\n\n\nThere's certain certifications as a drug recognition expert that some officers have. But \"is he drunk\" isn't something that requires expert testimony. Everyone knows what a drunk person is like. Expert witness isn't required for that.", "The prosecutor is the one prosecuting the case and bringing it to trial.\n\n\nThe police officer is a witness in the case. They have no say over whether the case goes to trial or is dismissed.\n\n\n>There is an inherent conflict of interest, especially if the case could be used in a wrongful arrest case if acquitted.\n\n\nAn acquittal doesn't get you to a wrongful arrest case. To prove that you'd have to show there was absolutely no probable cause whatsoever for an arrest. Simply being found not guilty won't get you there.", ">I bet if they answered honestly they have a stake in whether the person is convicted or not.\n\n\nThey really don't. You'd be shocked how little attention law enforcement pays to a case once the arrest is made. Whatever happens after that is blamed on the prosecutor.\n\n\n>They are testifying about a specific event that may be very similar to other events they encounter many times a month. It’s easy for details to bleed together.\n\n\nHence why they make reports immediately following the incident. It's far easier to remember something if you keep notes.", "Absolute immunity. We talk about qualified immunity being an issue for cops: judges and prosecutors are even more shielded.", "Because they have absolute immunity as opposed to the qualified immunity everyone talks about. Nigh untouchable.", "Shows in another video that explains this one\n\nEdit: Sorry! That the record showed his case was called at 8:45am saw it yesterday when I went down this rabbit hole lol", "I know it's a thing elsewhere, but that's why I specified on Reddit and most other social media sites. \n\nSaying the equivalent of \"lol America sucks\" is spitting into the ocean on here. The vast, vast majority of comments are all saying the same thing - there is no \"American exceptionalism\" to push back against on most of these subreddits.", "See I would have thought that as well but the one time I went to court the officer didn’t remember the event anywhere near as well as I did (or was intentionally lying). Judge noticed their testimony didn’t make sense and charges ended up getting dropped. And I mean they messed up big stuff like the day of I dealt with two cops. Nice cop and Douchebag cop. Nice cop was nice and douchebag cop lied to me over and over that day and was an aggressive asshole and constantly accused me of things that never occurred. So come to the day of court and only nice cop is there and they swear on the stand multiple times they were the only cop that dealt with my arrest and they never had to ask for help with procedural things from douchebag cop. So I’m skeptical to think they don’t have a bias when it comes to getting a conviction considering the nicest cop I’ve ever met was willing to lie multiple times on the stand to try to ensure a conviction that at most would have ended in a possible fine and time served.", "Never mistake the law for justice", "\\*defense, just so you know.", "Dude, where are you getting your information from? Supposedly he didn't show up one time, and was late to one (maybe two) other hearings. What the lawyers did was lie, where they gave the impression that he was always late and a no-show on more than one occasion. Also, from what I recall, it was actually one or both attorneys that had failed to show up or something, not to mention that Mr. Sanchez had to file some of his own paperwork because the lawyers failed to do it.\n\nThen, for the lawyers (representing him) to call for the case to be heard 15 MINUTES EARLY just so they could say that they didn't expect him to show up at all (see above lies), when he didn't have a fair chance to show up on time, was extreme misconduct on their part.\n\nThere's a lawyer on YT named Steve Lehto who has weighed in on this matter, once when this initially hit the news, and another (today) in regards to Mr. Sanchez suing the two lawyers, and you might change your tune once you hear some of the facts of the case from a lawyer's perspective.\n\nListen to what u/zzephyrr76 is telling you, because those two lawyers know that they dun goofed.\n\n​\n\n>He was late to this one and a bench warrant was issued, that's standard procedure.\n\nThe bench warrant was issued before 9AM and his scheduled time was 9AM. He wasn't even late to the courtroom when it was issued, so he could have been in the courtroom at 8:59AM, making him early, and it wouldn't have mattered because the warrant had already been issued. So no, it's not standard procedure.\n\nWas his named called at (or after) 9AM? No. If it had been and he hadn't been able to respond because of not being in there, then technically a bench warrant could have been issued and it would have been his fault. But again, it was issued before his expected time, and it's because his lawyers schemed against him.", "Easier link: https://www.deseret.com/utah/2021/12/2/22814796/Pigs-In-Space", ">It’s a racket.\n\nA tennis racket.", "He was there at 9AM, but not in the courtroom itself until 9:07AM. But even if he had been in the courtroom at 8:59AM it wouldn't have mattered because the bench warrant had already been issued because of the attorneys who were supposed to be defending him, not throwing him under the bus.", "Nope, wrong. What you tell a lawyer is legally between you and the lawyer unless what you say falls under one of the \"required reporting\" exceptions. Like if you tell your lawyer that you're going to bomb a building, then they are required to report that to prevent the crime from happening. But if the client says that he stole something from a 7-11 a decade earlier, that's confidential.", "Nah, this video should make republicans ashamed of being so careless with their lying and deceitful ways.", ">I've never seen a group of white people so casually just ruin a man's life in one room, within ~~an hour~~ a minute. This makes me sick.\n\nFTFY.\n\nThey ruined his life at 8:45AM.", ">Wow, welcome to the racist state of Utah.\n\nWell, it IS a red state, so yeah...\n\nBut the judge ***might*** not really be guilty of anything, especially if the judge was trusting the lawyers in what they were saying about their client. Sanchez's lawyers on the other hand... Yeah, they should serve time in jail for perjury/contempt of court, as well as have their bar licenses revoked.", "Utah is a red state. Anymore questions?", "She said they called the case, issued the warrant after 9. However it was 8:45 when they did that. His lawyer even says that is when they will do this in 4 min (he says this at 8:40. The judge has to lie and even claim he was there much later than that. He points out he talked to the female lawyer at 9:17 yet she doesn't back up. She says nothing because she wants him arrested too. 6th amendment violation which they are sworn to uphold.", "They ask if you trust the officer to be truthful.", ">I can’t seem to find the follow up news article where it talks about how the people involved all got prison sentences ranging from 5-20 years….\n\nThere was no follow up, not yet at least, other than Mr. Sanchez now suing the two lawyers who ruined his life by their extreme negligence and misconduct.", ">Surely a breathe is the superior option.\n\nHuh? A breathe is a superior option? I'm confused.", "The judge ***might*** not be guilty of any wrongdoing here. After all, they were going based on what Mr. Sanchez's lawyers were saying. Granted, the judge probably should have erred on the side of caution and maybe had the bench warrant ready to be issued, but regardless, it was the lawyers who lied to the court that really screwed things up for the guy. Instead of trashing him the way they did, they should have been ready to ask for his case to be called a few minutes later if it got called up right at 9AM. He shows up in the courtroom itself at 9:07AM and then his case gets called, everyone's happy because he's there like he should be. Instead, they had him doomed before he was even supposed to be there.", "Only positive that comes to mind when I think of Utah is Elizabeth Smart.", ">Unethical justice system in America??? I’m shocked! 🙄\n\nGee, I wonder if you were being sincere or ***sarcastic***... 🤔🤣", "No, they just screwed his life over for no justifiable reason at all.", "This happened in Utah, a red state. Can you truly say that you are surprised?", "Utah is a red state, so can you say that it's surprising?", ">This is fucking DEPLORABLE. And their fucking snickers and giggles - are you shitting me?!?\n\nI'll take the Snickers 🍫, you can take the giggles.", "Jail, not prison.", ">They get paid and can move on to the next ~~client I mean~~ victim\n\nThat better?", "A lot of people are already disbarred. I think what you meant to say was that a lot of ***lawyers*** need to be disbarred.", "The justice system isn't corrupt, it's the people in it who are corrupt. Get rid of the corrupt people and the system itself is still the same, just it won't be filled with corruption.", "Yeah, my comment was tongue in cheek.", "Both you and u/VicksVaporBBQrub are idiots.\n\nHe had a bench warrant for his arrest before 9AM. He wasn't even late yet and technically he was at court on time, just not in the courtroom itself until 9:07AM. So even if he had been in the courtroom at 8:59AM, it was still too late for him despite the fact that he'd have been early.", "I don’t know about vicks but yeah I definitely am", "Steve Lehto did a couple of videos on this, most recent being today to provide an update about Mr. Sanchez suing the two lawyers. I think he (Lehto) is spot on with his observations, and that's not counting any of the legal stuff that you'd need to be a lawyer to be familiar with. (He points out legalities as well though, since he's a lawyer.)", "I had a family member involved in a major felony case. \n\nWas at the courts to support him on a very importantand graphic and argumentative day of the trial...\n\nWent to lunch after heartbreaking testimony and heated debate.... See the prosecution and our defense lawyers laughing it up at a restaurant having drinks....we were scheduled to be back in court in 45 minutes......\n\nMy father walked over and lost it on our paid defense lawyers. Walked into court. Filed a compalimt. Fired the lawyers. The trial was postponed. \n\nWe hired better lawyers and when we told them the story they pretended to be upset and understand.\n\nA month later. Same restaurant. Our new lawyer and the prosecution laughing it up drinking cocktails. \n\nThe system is fucked. These guys all hang out and drink and play golf and wife swap.... There is no rea legal system if you aren't richAND connected. \n\nIt is disgusting.", ">I don’t know about vicks but yeah I definitely am\n\nWell, not anymore it would seem. 🤣\n\nYeah, his lawyers screwed him over something fierce.", "DAMN this is how they did Jolyne.", "We had sources of evidence long before video existed as well. And 'we had video but deleted it' should cast doubt on whatever that officer claims if there's no other evidence of a crime. Body/Dashcams can malfunction, but there's a sizeable difference between malfunction/negligence and manually turning off cameras or deleting footage.", "I'm not surprised, they're up there with Idaho and most of Oregon.", ">I'm not surprised\n\nI like you already.", "Sometimes I just like to say stupid shit or give my opinion on a subject I know absolutely nothing about just for the hell of it😂", "No Im not surprised either", "Yep", "I saw a TV show once where they were filming at a jail and showed how people who get thrown in there get given leaflets for bond loan companies to call. It's a business.", "Oh, and the phone calls aren’t free either. They can charge dollars per minute sometimes.", "The state is absolutely gorgeous, a hidden treasure in the US", "I've never been there, so I'll have to take your word for it.", "Wow Big Reward. High Upvote Comment!", "The thing is, a handheld breatho is enough to justify taking them back to the station to have a go on the big one. The FSE is just unnecessary faff. I guess the difference in my country is there’s no asking, it’s “you’re going to blow in this, or you’re walking home” at every single traffic stop. I find it a bit funny that you guys pretend there’s a choice involved. \n\nAlso, “everyone knows what a drunk looks like” is not really good enough. Surely as a cop you’d want something a bit more concrete than that. There’s plenty of situations where people appear drunk but are actually having a medical episode, suffer from some sort of disability, from Scotland etc.", "The *response* to it may be more on reddit, but the exposure to it is everywhere.", "\"THESE are the times that try men's souls.\"", "Rule #1 of any courtroom proceeding - you show up 30 minutes early. If the court calls for you and you aren't there, that is on you as are the consequences.\n\nNow, that doesn't absolve the behavior in this case - court wasn't supposed to start until 9, they called it at 8:45 and then repeatedly lied to compound and cover up what they did. No excuses for that, it's an egregious breach of conduct and all should be punished for it. But if he was supposed to be there at 9 and wasn't, \"it was crowded\" likely won't fly as an excuse. Which makes this even more mind boggling - if they had called his case at 9 he'd have no leg to stand on.\n\nEdit: All of the above presumes he was told to show up at 9:00 - which only the video claims. If he was told to show up earlier (and other summaries of his case have lent at least some support to that theory) than it actually is on him.", "Because its not and no matter how many times you say its dumb won't make it so, and just because people agree with you on this shitty marxist hell hole of a website doesn't make you right", "That pissed me off so much. I can't stand seeing people taking advantage of the elderly. They stole from that widow right in front of her. Fucking disgusting.", "I mean, the judge had probably dozens of other cases on her docket for the day. The defense attorney and prosecutor straight up lied to her about his attendance record. Most judges would just say \"hmm, he's not here? Okay, we'll just move his hearing to the bottom of the pile for today\"... but she was lied to.\n\nShe definitely gets some of the blame, but the lions share of the blame goes to the defense attorney and prosecutor for being lying pieces of shit. They both deserve to be disbarred.", "Liberals don't, leftists do. \n\n\"Any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force, if necessary.\" -Marx", "If the doors to the court house open at 0900, and it is so busy/crowded that defendants, witnesses, and attorneys are still queued to enter there exists a high probability that some combination of the defendant, DA, and defense attorney are all still in the queue to enter the court room.\n\nStrictly following “the letter of the law” on this, as you laid out— how many people are you willing to have incarcerated simply because they were waiting in line to enter?\n\nBecause let’s face it, even if literally everyone was 30 minutes early, a line still forms, and those doors still don’t open until 0900.\n\nSo if the doors don’t open until 0900, and the first case is called at 0900 how many thousands of incarcerations will occur annually for no other reason than being queued in line?\n\nPoint blank, and full stop— that isn’t justice, it’s insanity.", "So you can't think of any other enforcement method besides jail time?", "Left handed people?", "Uhh no.", "I hope they all get disbarred.", "I myself do show up late to work and late to class, a lot. Fair enough. I shouldn't put the hammer down like that on others, since I carry one up my arse. 😎", "You have one joke and it isn’t good. Get fucked loser.", "Go clean some other dudes cum out of your wife and quit crying to us about it Jesus Christ.", "it's like a paragraph and a half of text, what an incredible self-own to declare that's too much to read", "You do you, its your life and honestly nobody gives a shit about you. The system sucks and needs to be changed but if their is anything you can do to protect yourself from it until that happens then you failing do to that is your own fault, just saying.", "Yep, I'll be sure to be on time. Do me a favor and reiterate the importance of that again in like 5 hours in case I forget.", "A paragraph and a half of text of a little kid whining, sorry if I can't be bothered in reading that much from someone who's triggered. \n\nYour parents need to put you into therapy because you obviously can't handle real life.", ">I want to type but I feel exhausted so I'll just talk a little bit about this.\n\n(In SpongeBob's narrator voice): *Six full paragraphs later...*\n\n🤣", ">That’s a mass court hearing no one actually gets seen directly at 9.\n\nExcept for those who get called first right at 9AM. 😉", "Unless you're remembering things wrong it would be a different case. Mr. Sanchez's lawyers said that they didn't expect him to show up, 15 minutes before he was supposed to be there. They didn't try to stall or say that he was caught up in the hall or anything.", ">How do you know it's because of bad legal representation?? Because the person who made this video said so? I think all videos posted on reddit should be met with a bit of skepticism.\n\nLet's review the facts here. Relying on the courtroom's own video of the proceedings, his lawyer stood in front of the judge at 8:45AM (15 minutes early) and said that his client had been late multiple times and had missed court multiple times (despite it only being late once and missing once in a five year period). So a bench warrant was put out on him before he even had a chance to be there. Not because someone simply \"said so.\"\n\nSo you tell me, if you had a lawyer that was willing to do that to you, where they call your case early and then lie about your reliability so that a bench warrant is put out for you, would you call that good legal representation? Or would you call it bad legal representation? This isn't even considering the fact that Mr. Sanchez had to file some of his own motions because the lawyers refused to do so.", "The video looks/sounds the same so I really don't think it's a different case.", "Then you might have remembered the details wrong, because his lawyers never tried to buy him time and claimed he was \"caught up\" thus why he was late. Instead, acted as though he was unreliable and should just jump to having him arrested.", "LOL you're still here days later being upset about some dude posting comments about cuckold porn. I'm not even married or the original poster, that stuff has nothing to do with me, dipshit.", ">they definitely mention that he was caught up in the hall--he wanted to go forward for his case but couldn't for some reason\n\nI meant the articles about it (at the time) mentioned that, I see where we're misunderstanding. It was the same case, the other articles just had some additional detail.", "When did they say that he was caught up in the hall? While telling the judge that he likely won't show up because of missing multiple appearances?", "The *news articles* said that. Not anyone in the video OP linked to. News often includes details that a video did not.", "Okay, let's try this a different way. The news wasn't there covering the story as it happened, so who told the news that Sanchez was caught up in the hall?", "I got lots of jokes.\n\nHow is the USS Enterprise like a roll of toilet paper?\n\nThey both wipe out klingons.", "The fact that this undoubtedly happens all over the country and the attorneys/judges involved never get caught makes me so angry.", "Courthouses have video evidence everywhere, they don't have to be told anything. Looks like [he got stuck in the metal detector line.](https://www.ksl.com/article/50042816/utahn-says-he-pleaded-guilty-because-of-bond-debt-after-his-own-lawyers-got-him-jailed)", "From the way you said it, I was under the impression that the lawyers were trying to help their client by saying that he was \"caught up\" but still wound up being arrested.\n\nThat news article is inaccurate though. He arrived in the courtroom at 9:07AM not 9:05, and his lawyers got his case heard at 8:45 not 8:48. From what I understand, and this is going based off of what I've heard/read (not seen video evidence of it), he would have been early but there was already a crowd of people waiting to get into the court building. Because of this and the fact that they ask people to not form a line (or a long line?) to get into the building, he waited in his car (as suggested) and then proceeded to enter the building when he got a chance. It then took a few minutes to actually be past the front security check, thus his being late into the courtroom itself. So he followed guidelines, laws, etc., and got punished for it.", "lmao, this from the guy who is so paranoid about everyone's intentions that the idea of forgiving others for hurting you is an alien concept\n\nand given your tone, pretty sure I'm not the one who is TrIggErEd right now, dipshit", "Lmao I know 😂😂 I'll crash soon. Part of the cycle", "You should be on time.\n\nI know you said 5 hours, but hey; better early than late right?", "> the idea of forgiving others for hurting you is an alien concept\n\nLol, I forgive folks for small stuff like not paying back money owed. Someone stealing my car and letting me get arrested for their drugs isn't a small matter.\n\nIf you think otherwise then you're a doormat plain and simple.\n\n> and given your tone, pretty sure I'm not the one who is TrIggErEd right now, dipshit\n\nImagine saying the above then ending it with dipshit nice tone there kid LOL. Go to your time out corner Timmy.", "Keep trying to seem smart. Works well for you", "It's just Reddit, not like any of this means anything.", "That’s why you are shitting and pissing yourself to reply as quickly as possible… right?", "Quite aggressive for someone doing the same thing.", "“You’re doing the same thing cause I said so”\n\nHow old are you?", "I believe this is the part where I say\n\n\"Old enough to have slept with your mother\".", "Not sure you’d like her, she’s a person of color and you’ve made it very clear you don’t like minorities. Maybe Kyle would be a better fit for your degenerate ass", "Well you know how us colonizers can be.\n\nBesides Kyle is Hispanic, so he'd be a PoC too.", "Thanks for admitting you’d fuck a kid. Typical conservative mind right here", "Kyle is 18 sweetie.", "Lmao so too old for you, got it", "Now who's projecting lol.", "I’m not the one with a comment history full to the brim of defensive posts about an 18 year old boy. That’s you. But go off buddy, I know it’s hard being a fucking monster, but you should get some help for that. Maybe a rittenhouse special", "I don't see anything wrong with supporting someone who defended themselves. \n\nI appreciate your concern for me though, especially during holidays.", "Just don’t want you getting away with being a pedo before it catches up with you ❤️\n\nWell hey if you really want to “support” a child then be my guest. Just try not to cry to hard when you get caught", "You're really hung up on this pedophilia thing. Are you sure you aren't the one who needs the help?", "You mean my disgust for pedophiles like you? Sorry that bothers you so much", "Hung up? What do you mean, their post history only suggests that you're the *checks notes* 20th person that they've started randomly calling a pedo, antivaxxer, or a racist after trying to troll and getting called out and laughed at.", "It doesn't bother me at all, because I don't like pedophiles. Since you've gone through my posts you know I don't. Which is why I didn't shed a tear when Kyle killed one in self defense.", "Didn’t shed a tear cause it meant more for you. \n\nEnjoy your degenerate life loser", "Apologies for the delayed response, I was making lunch.\n\nI hope you didn't worry too much.", "Sorry bud, I had already preemptively marked you down as late on that and I didn't see your post until an hour after it was due. I appreciate the effort but you're not getting credit for it.", "I got a DUI after blowing a 0 - AMA.", "\"Traffic\" doesn't even cut it as an excuse for being late to work. \"Lots of people present\" doesn't cut it for being late to a judicial hearing. I'd guess his lawyers committed a crime here, but \"it's busy\" isn't a valid excuse. Unless you have no idea what to expect. But he'd been fighting this case for awhile, so that's not possible.", "I think his due process was violated based only on this video, but I'd be willing to bet that there is a pattern that made them want to do this, and I'd be curious how these lawyers would defend themselves in court. This video gives the context it wants you to have. I haven't looked into this situation anymore outside of this video. I'm willing to guess most of these commentors haven't either. Maybe this guy actually has never been late other than the times mentioned, so he's innocent of any maliciousness. Or maybe not. Maybe he's a model client. Or maybe he's not. All I'm saying is I'm not going to just jump because this video tells me to. And I'm not going to jump just because a bunch of randos keep commenting the same thing on my comment, which really only was questioning what was going on. I have no reason to just go along with what's been presented here.", "Maybe this was the straw that broke the camel's back. I don't know anything else about this case other than what this video has told me. I'm just saying that maybe, just maybe, there could be more to this story than the limited info in this video. Or maybe there isn't. All I've seen is this video.", "Yeah, I get that. But maybe there is a pattern of behavior that these lawyers would point to if they wanted to show it was justified. Or maybe it wouldn't matter. I don't know what the criminal requirement is for obstruction, and I definitely don't know everything about this situation. Maybe the 10 minute video is totally forthright about what happened here. Maybe not.", "Not at all; I only speak aggressive, so I didn't even notice. \n\nAnd I agree with the final point of your other reply - it likely wasn't a grand, ongoing conspiracy to deprive him of his rights, but it *was* a conspiracy to cover this little appearance fuck up, which was probably more about their laziness and negligence than anything in particular about that specific Defendant.", "Haha, touche \nGood one 😂", "😎", "The funny thing about your insults is how they say so much about you.\n\nEarlier you were all harping on how I 'needed' the last word, when you responded just as often as I did - as if *you* needed the last word, and were incensed I wouldn't just let you have it.\n\nNow you're calling me childish, after this exchange has involved you slinging insults, resorting to schoolyard comebacks, and displaying the rank selfishness of a child who has yet to fully develop empathy.\n\nIt'd be funnier if you did it out of some sort of sense of self-awareness.", "And another paragraph of text cause you're triggered.\n\nMan can't imagine having such a fragile ego like yours where you need to write out a paragraph in response to something said 4+ hours ago LOL.", "the dude is a certified troll who is always a cuck supporting polymaory", ">When I said \"problems\" though, I really meant a breadth of problems: reproductive rights, gun deaths, civil rights, education, healthcare, etc\n\nSure.\n\nWell, we already talked about reproductive rights.\n\nCertainly SK pulls ahead on healthcare, education, and gun deaths.\n\nBut drug legalization? LGBTQ rights? Stigmas towards the mentally ill? \nAsylum? Refugee rights? Animal rights? Individual rights, attitudes towards crime, and state intrusion? Not at all.\n\nPoverty is about the same.\n\nAnd we are still comparing one of the most ethnically homogenous, urban, small, irreligious new democracies to one of the most ethnically heterogeneous, rural, large, old religious democracies and finding....a grab bag (as many others have told you)", "i typically dont like copy pasted comments but nice", "\"NO amount of money will stop me!\"\n\n*million dollar check offered*\n\n\"Aight, we're cool.\"", "what a sociopathic devotion to bureaucracy", "Not if ur rich enough.", "Welcome to white america", "Bench warrant wasn't issued until after 9, and even if it was, they would have rescinded it if he was on time. He wasn't\n\nCourt I went to recently locked the doors at 9, you were not allowed in at all if you showed up late.", "Are you sure about that? Since at about 8:45AM, the judge said that a bench warrant would be issued, in other words, aside from the actual processing of the bench warrant itself, it was a done deal, BEFORE 9AM. Also, the court clerk asked, \"So what are we going to do when he shows up?\" and the judge responded, \"We're going to take him into custody.\" It wasn't even 9AM and he was already doomed to be arrested for failing to show up, as in, the bench warrant was already in effect even though it hadn't actually been processed yet.\n\nSo no, they wouldn't have rescinded it if he had been on time.", "Would be, implies that it would be issued at 9am if he was late.\n\nIf he did show up late they would arrest him\n\nHe showed up late.\n\nYou are making an assumption they would have arrested him if he was on time, but no facts back that up. They talked about him being late, they said if he was late they would take him into custody. he was late, they took him into custody.", ">You are making an assumption they would have arrested him if he was on time, but no facts back that up.\n\nSo the fact that the judge said that he would be taken into custody if he shows up (not if he shows up late) isn't a fact? She literally said it right after saying a warrant will be issued. She didn't respond with, \"If he's on time then we'll dismiss the warrant...\" or that he'd be taken into custody if he's late. No, she said he'd be taken into custody, period.\n\nYou're fighting against reality and facts here, so you're not going to win with your claim that it was because he was late when he was actually on time (he was at the court building by 9AM). Have you even bothered watching (and listening to) the video? Your comments and lack of knowledge of what actually transpired suggests that you didn't.", "I'm not fighting against anything, he was issued a bench warrant if he showed up late. He showed up late and was arrested.\n\nThose are the facts.", ">I'm not fighting against anything, he was issued a bench warrant if he showed up late. He showed up late and was arrested.\n\nI love how you contradicted yourself in the first sentence alone, but then doubled down with the second sentence.\n\nThe facts are that the court clerk asked what will happen when he shows up (not shows up late) and the judge responded that he'd be taken into custody. She didn't specify that he'd be taken in IF he was late, only that he'd be taken in. You can't deny what she said as you hear her saying it in the video supplied by the court. You said that the warrant was if he was late, but you have NO facts to back that up. Prove to me that the warrant wouldn't have been executed if he had been in that courtroom by 9AM at the absolute latest. If you can't prove it, then you can't claim it.", "I didn't contradict anything\n\nThe warrant was issued if he shows up late\n\nHe showed up late\n\nHe was arrested.\n\nThose are the facts, they just don't fit your desired narrative.", "You're the one with a desired narrative. You're ignoring what the judge said in response to what was asked. It wasn't asked after 9AM, it was asked roughly 8:45AM. Why is this so hard for you to comprehend? Did your parents not take you to the ER after dropping you on your head a dozen times or something?", "Yeah in the U.K it’s like that. Either you get bail for free or your classified as too much of a risk and no bail is set", "I'm the one talking about the facts\n\n* They talked about him being late\n* Judge ordered a bench warrant for being late\n* He was arrested after showing up late\n\nThose are the facts, you are the one trying to pretend like they would have arrested him if he came on time", "You excluded the fact that the judge said he was going to be arrested, with no regard to if he was on time or not.\n\n \n\n>Those are the facts, you are the one trying to pretend like they would have arrested him if he came on time\n\nYou still haven't proven that he wouldn't have been arrested if he had been in the courtroom by 9AM at the latest.\n\n \n\n>He was arrested after showing up late\n\nHe was technically on time since he was at the building and waiting to get through the security check by 9AM.", "None\\*. The crime they claim he did they have no evidence for, other than hearsay from people who are all related. The problem is he's a white cis middle-aged male, so he doesn't check any box that would make people or the media care or take notice. It's sad to say, but it's just a reality when you're a statistic. To be clear though, this is a failure in the system; too many people are incarcerated in the US who are innocent. No matter their race or gender or anything else. The system is designed for plea deals (google it if you want to be depressed). So it's like they don't know what to do or how to handle it if you actually maintain that you are innocent.\n\nNow, once he's been there his whole life or something, *then* it might be news worthy. They didn't even care that the arresting officers hit him in the head so hard he lost sight in one of his eyes (permanently). \n\n\\*I know what you're thinking..\"they wouldn't give life sentences to a dude who didn't do anything. Even if the judge/proc/def were all corrupt, *someone* surely would have looked at the case and become concerned over the details or egregious sentencing\". *I* used to think that way also. He tried to appeal, but the appeals court said \"Well, we know the judge was corrupt (he was caught in a different case and slapped on the wrist, still practices though), and we know the defense attorney literally provided zero counter evidence and called no witnesses, and we know the prosecution witnesses contradicted each other on the stand....but we're *pretty* sure it would have ended up the same ruling.\" He's in a second appeal now, but literally no one who has any authority over this stuff quite frankly cares.", "My friend got a \"speeding\" ticket at 5:30pm on Rt. 29 leaving Washington DC on a Wednesday. Anyone who is familiar with the area knows that if you're going 25 in a 45, you're making *great* time during rush hour, and no way you're actually going 45, let alone 55.\n\nIn court, the officer testified that Mike was the **only** car on that part of the road at the time. Rush hour. Washington, DC metro area. \"Your honor, surely you can't give credence to that!\" \"Sorry, I have to believe the officer.\" And that was that.", "The fact you think he was on time because he was in the court house at 9 is hilarious.\n\nThey literally tell you that you have to be IN THE COURT ROOM by 9am, not the courthouse.\n\nThe guy was issued a bench warrant if he came in late\n\nThe guy came in late\n\nThe guy was arrested.\n\nThese are the facts", ">***The guy was issued a bench warrant if he came in late*** \n> \n>The guy came in late \n> \n>The guy was arrested. \n> \n>These are the facts\n\nOne of your facts is incorrect. A bench warrant was issued on him and was no a conditional one. The judge herself said that he would be taken into custody when he shows up, not that he would be taken into custody if he doesn't show up on time. You keep ignoring that very important detail and ignoring it doesn't make it untrue nor does ignoring it make you correct when you're not.", "Not incorrect at all\n\nBench warrant was issued for being late, if he wasn't late, he wouldn't have been arrested.\n\nThe guy came in late\n\nThe guy was arrested for coming in late", ">Bench warrant was issued for being late, if he wasn't late, he wouldn't have been arrested.\n\nOMG, did you even pay attention to the video? The bench warrant was issued based on alleged past history of being late and not even showing up at all, as well as already being late (or a no show) to the (then upcoming) session. In other words, if he had appeared in the courtroom at 8:55AM, he would have been taken into custody. The judge confirms this when saying that he'll be taken into custody when asked what will happen when he shows up. She didn't say \"he'll be taken into custody *if he's late*.\" There was no condition of being late, he was going to be taken into custody.\n\n​\n\n>The guy was arrested for coming in late\n\nNo, he was arrested because of a bench warrant for him.", "If the judge, prosecutor AND the defense lawyers in this district are this corrupt... I'd second guess any police \"evidence\" as well. \n\nI mean, I have the paperwork right that says YOU killed 3 people last may. It's totally legit paperwork too! No video evidence even necessary!", "> Dude’s a POS for drunk driving,\n\nAccording to a cop in a *clearly* corrupt district. I mean, there's no way a cop would just lie right?", "> not all cops are bad,\n\nI agree with you here. Unfortunately, the \"good cops\" will vigorously defend and look the other way for those \"bad cops\". Most of the good cops I know are ex-cops because they saw how fucked up it was and left.", "Sounds like you're intentionally missing his/her point. A cop saying something happened without any other evidence to back them up does not make someone guilty. End. Of. Story. \n\nThe many, many, many examples of cops lying is evidence that taking their word at face value is dangerous. \n\nOh the cops \"accidentally\" broke their dash cam and \"accidentally\" deleted all the other video evidence.... *Hmmm, nothing to see here!*", "> But it is rare. \n\nI ***highly*** doubt that.", "Highly doubt that juries doubt a police officer’s credibility? Jurors get cut by the prosecution if they seem to have an issue with authority.", "I highly doubt that is it rare for police officers to be found not credible. \n\n>[Dishonesty is a frequent problem. The records document at least 2,227 instances of perjury, tampering with evidence or witnesses or falsifying reports. There were 418 reports of officers obstructing investigations, most often when they or someone they knew were targets.](https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/investigations/2019/04/24/usa-today-revealing-misconduct-records-police-cops/3223984002/) \n\nIn reddit-speak:\n\nVery credible, much wow.", "And if you're doing what a jury is *designed* to do, you can do that without using the terms \"bad faith\" and \"sabotage\".", "But you’re assuming that on each of those occasions the jury did not find them credible. \n\nPerjury means they lied under oath. It doesn’t mean that the jury didn’t believe Them. \n\nI", "A Bench warrant given out for being late, and he was late, thus the bench warrant was executed", "Prove he wouldn't have been arrested if he had been inside the courtroom by 9AM. If you can't then you're wrong.", "The bench warrant was for coming late to court", ">The bench warrant was for coming late to court\n\nWhich was issued before 9AM for previous alleged violations and the assumption he'd be late to the upcoming session. He was going to be arrested no matter what. But that doesn't answer my question about proving he wouldn't have been arrested if he had been in there by 9AM.", "He was only arrested for coming in late as he came in late", "Dude, obviously your parents never took you to the ER after dropping you on your head a few times.\n\n1. The bench warrant was for previous alleged violations, including that session even though it hadn't started yet. In other words, he was already considered in violation BEFORE 9AM. \n2. I asked you to prove that he wouldn't have been arrested if he had been in the courtroom by 9AM. You have failed to do so because you can't because he would have still been arrested.\n3. You are trying to tell me what you believe it should be, but you are ignoring how it actually is. The bench warrant was in effect before 9AM, the judge even acknowledged he'd be arrested when he showed up, even though she said that at about 8:45AM and he still could have appeared in the courtroom before 9AM. You keep ignoring this fact (yes, it's a fact) as though ignoring it will make it untrue.\n\nIf you want to argue with reality, go ahead, but stop trying to convince me that things happened for reasons that they didn't happen. I mean seriously, just how dense are you that you can't accept and comprehend certain obvious facts? Wow.", "Bench warrent was given if he is late\n\nHe was late\n\nHe was arrested", "Repeating the same inaccurate information (first line) won't suddenly make it true.\n\nPay attention to the video again. The judge says that they're going to set a bench warrant. Not that it'll happen if he's late. YOU are the one who keeps adding that to the mix.\n\nAlso, you have not provided proof that he wouldn't have been arrested if he had been in there by 9AM. If you keep repeating yourself instead of providing proof, then that will prove that you're just being a broken record and ignoring facts because you know you're wrong.", "Bench warrant was issued for being late\n\nGuy was late\n\nGuy was are arrested", "Thank you for proving that you are wrong. Have a good day!", "5 years? i guess the right for a speedy trial isnt a thing anymore?", "They didn’t issue a warrant though, my dude. They said he was probably going to be late. Then when 9 rolled around, they issued the warrant. What did I gloss over here? What collusion? The fact that his defense lawyer said he was going to be late, and he was late? Where is this collusion you’re claiming?", "I mean sure, I’m probs wrong about the 845, but he claims the trial was at 9 and he showed up 8 minutes late - that’s all In the video. Also look up the articles of this case, they all have suspiciously descending levels of lateness, the lowest I saw coming from him claiming he was only 2 minutes late", "At the beginning of the video, they talk about issuing a bench warrant before 9am. \"We're going to take him into custody\". Then they claim he was much later than he actually was when they execute the warrant. Am I missing something?", "He repeatedly didn’t show up to court or showed up late, and when cops need to go to his house and arrest him in front of his kids that serves no one. Why would forcing him to stay in jail so he can actually stand trial be “clearly not justice”? What would your solution be to someone that is 10 rescheduled trials deep because he shows up late/doesn’t show up at all? How would you actually make him show up to a trial?", "Fair trial eh? Hysterical. My dude was blood tested at the station and was 2x the legal limit, several hours after his initial arrest. He even admitted he was drinking before driving. Homie tried claiming it wasn’t a dui because the police deleted the dashcam/police station footage 30 days after the arrest which was standard. Homie tried claiming they didn’t have the right to pull him over in the first place. He tried claiming they didn’t have the right to pull his blood. When that all failed he straight up didn’t show up to court, fired several different attorneys and requested new ones, sued the city, finally had to plead guilty after many years of trial, then completely lost his appeal as well.\n\nThat’s the history that lead up to this point. He showed up late (as was his habit during the 3 years of trial) and got the standard punishment for not showing up at the allotted time. Where was the issue with his trial? Do you think somehow him getting a dui for having 2x the legal limit of alcohol in his blood, and admitting he was drinking and driving is somehow unfair? \n\nDo you think maybe he’s a scumbag and is just lying in order to wring a couple of dollars from silly redditors who don’t want to look into this story at all, and just want to assume that the unprofessionalism of those in this video, who are understandably frustrated about how this character has drawn out the most open and shut case in the history of the law, is somehow a miscarriage of justice?", "Yea, those legal protections in the bill of rights that say if I show up late to my trial I should have no consequences, those are really being trampled on here. That’s actually the lesser known 11th right", "This is the 3rd year of him dragging out a trial where he was blood tested 2x over the legal limit. He’s fired many lawyers, claimed because the police don’t have dashcam the blood evidence is invalid, claimed they didn’t have the right to arrest him or take his blood, shown up late repeatedly, completely not shown up and been dragged back to court by issue of warrant. \n\nHis lawyer is unprofessional, yes. But the fact is his lawyer said he was going to show up late (again) and he did actually show up late and got the standard punishment for being late. He’s a troublemaker and a fucking asshole, and everybody in that courtroom is understandably frustrated in him. \n\nNow, 7 years later, he’s trying to get money in gofundme from redditors, after suing several times, and appealing the case and losing. that is the purpose of this post", "Yea the unscientific “took his blood at the station and he was 2x the legal limit hours after the arrest”. Surely, the dashcam would have been more scientific evidence", "It’s not suspicious, like at all lmao. They took his blood at the station hours after his arrest and he was still 2x the legal limit. And he tried to claim that the dashcam video would somehow be stronger evidence that he wasn’t drunk over the bloodwork...\n\nNow tell me, what about this video is corrupt? He showed up late to court and got punished for it. Those in the courtroom are unprofessional, sure, but that’s a far cry from corruption.", "But... it doesn’t say any of what he says, am I missing something? It says the tape starts at 845 and ends at 1046, but it doesn’t say that they called the warrant at 845, just that they started recording st that time, not particularly unreasonable considering they were just sitting around waiting for the trial to begin, and they were having conversations about the case.", "Woah he claimed they offered him 45k settlement? This guy who’s definitely a completely trustworthy source? This guy who claims that a missing dashcam video would exonerate him of drunk driving, when they took his blood and he was 2x the legal limit? This guy who’s begging for money for a case where “they offered him a 45k settlement” for some reason, 7 years after the case, after he lost the trial, sued and won 1k, then lost several retrials? \n\nI wonder what motive this guy would have for lying on his gofundme page... I guess I’ll have to just “get real” like you", "The video started before 0845. 0845 is the time the warrant was issued that's why it's noted in the document. Next to 0845 is 1046 the time the case was called again and the arrest was made. In the original video the defense attorney's even state that it was 0840 and they should wait 5 minutes to get the warrant. The times referenced in the document at the time stamps of when the prescribed events take place.", "Alright, I’m not going to lie to you, I did A TON of searching for more info on this damned case, and there’s just so little substantial evidence here besides this video, his gofundme, a couple articles which are all copy and pasted, and the court decision from when he appealed and lost this case a year ago.\n\nI thought I had seen a longer, unedited version of this video, it does not exist to my knowledge. I was wrong about that. The only thing I can assume is that he FOIA requested this, chopped it up, removed the time stamp, and posted it to YouTube, so it’s unedited version does not exist anywhere online.\n\nSo really, it’s very notable he removed the time stamp, and it’s very suspicious removal considering the only thing we have to go on here is his word. \n\nThere is the possibility that this case actually started at 845, and this MAY be the case, because one of the only hard pieces of evidence I’ve seen shows the courtroom recording tape of his case starting at 845, but detractors would obviously say that just proves they called it early. There’s also the possibility that they were just preparing the warrant since it take a bit to draft up, and that they actually issued it at 9, but Sanchez left that part on the cutting room floor.\n\nI think the fact that he removed the time stamp is telling, and I think that his weird language in the editing of the video is very scammy. Also how he conducted himself over the last 7 years, over a dui case which is as open and shut as they come, and how he’s still trying to squirm out from it, even though his blood literally says he was driving drunk.\n\nHere’s a comment that outlines the argument against him pretty well, based on no further information, though: https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/p1k507/defense_attorney_conspires_with_prosecutor/h8exa7u/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3", "Did you manage to find proof of his blood alcohol level? The comment you link is of a guy assuming he was supposed to be there at 0845. The follow up video which includes time stamps of events shows the pretrial was supposed to start 0900. Also where is your proof that there was ever a time stamp?", "It does not say that though. There is no time stamp on the warrant issue, it only informs that a warrant was issued. The only time 845 is even mentioned is when the tape started, whatever that even means", "I mean it sounds like you barely read his comment if you think it just says he was supposed to show up at 845, or you’re just picking what you think is his weakest argument, whatever, that’s not even close to the full comment. Def ignore the “follow up video” though, it’s just a guy looking at the video and making a 60 minute argument with less info then we have here\n\nI mean it’s safe to assume there was a time stamp, court documents need time stamps, and how else would the editor of the video have such exact timings? You can also see that it’s really shittily cropped, they couldn’t figure out how to resize it so they just but a black border around the outside, you know, exactly where the time stamp would be. What other explanation would there be for the black border?\n\nBut dammit dude, did you do any research into this case? There’s only like 6 results - I’ll link the court doc that shows his blood alcohol percentage taken directly from his blood, gimme a sec...", "0845 /1046 is when the events described in the document take place. His lawyers in the original video are heard saying it was 0840 when they discussed getting a warrant.", "Here’s the court decision - it details the arrest and all the evidence against him, as well as his bogus defenses and why they’re bogus \n\nhttps://casetext.com/case/state-v-sanchez-1242072", "The argument that he was supposed to be there at 0845 was literally his first talking point. I think we're talking about the wrong follow up video. I'm talking about the short QA Mr Sanchez made. Which one are you talking about? \n\nThe editor of the video goes by the time his defense attorney states and by the time stamp on the document that states the events and the time the events take place. It put them at 0845 which is the time his defense attorney is caught saying he'll push for the warrant and 1046 which is the time the judge is heard saying when she's calling the case. Why would you assume there was a time stamp. Have you seen a video from the same court room with a time stamp? Don't you think that would be relatively easy to prove ? I'll like to read the blood alcohol report but regardless of if he's guilty of the DUI does it dispute justify what happened in the video?", "Yea I get that the lawyers are talking about it at 845, and I have some skepticism about that because it could just be them preparing for 9 (because surprise, they predicted he was going to be late) but I’m not convinced the doc says that. Like based on that info in the doc why couldn’t we also assume that the warrant was issued at 9? I think the only safe thing we can assume based on the info there was that it was issued sometime between the time period of the tape", "Ah yep different video. Some dude made a garbage commentary video, I think it was in the comment I linked above somewhere\n\nBut yea time stamps - he references many non- 845 or 9 timestamps, 905, 907, 918, etc. he references 840 as (current time) where that’s not apparent by the info we have. These are all rather specific for not having a time stamp. And again the weird border\n\nBut yea, assuming my take on this, which would be that maybe they were preparing the warrant for 9, and this was deliberately cut to make a case out of nothing, then I see nothing wrong with this video other than some unprofessionalism. He was late, which he admits, and he got the punishment for lateness. And in court, there’s no difference between not showing up on time, and not showing up at all, they need to be treated the same way regardless if he was only 7 minutes late.\n\nAssuming your take, that they did push the trial up 15 minutes, yea that’s absolutely fucked, and I’d be outraged too. And even though, as another commenter put it, all the evidence we have points to that, there’s way too many red flags for me showing that there’s tons of missing information that show that is not the case. All we have to go on, in the end, is Luis Sanchez’s word, and I say that because he most likely was the one that requested and edited this video, linking* his gofundme in the description. \n\nThis guy seems like a liar and a scammer to me based on all the information I’ve read, and the fact that this video is posted every couple of months with no additional information given screams scam to me\n\nBut yea the casetext again:\n\nhttps://casetext.com/case/state-v-sanchez-1242072", "So are you assuming that the Audio of his defense attorney stating the time is altered or that they're lying?", "That’s more information than was easily available. Even if everything you stated is true, the actions in the video of the attorneys and judge are reprehensible. It appears that they were dishonest on the record, and as officers of the court, I don’t think their dishonesty on the record can be excused . The old saying that two wrongs don’t make aright comes to mind. \n But, I thank you for providing more context to the situation.", "The 6th amendment guarantees that you have the right to assistance of council for your defense. This man's council conspired with the prosecution and judge to get him arrested. He is also being deprived of liberty without due process of law, which is a 5th amendment violation.", "You bring up some good points. The time stamp not being visible is a pretty dumb oversight if the editor was honest. I've seen the justice system (in Utah specifically) roll over many people unfairly, so it's easy to believe there were shenanigans, but it's important to be objective. Thanks for providing a dissenting opinion against the rabid reddit hive mind.", "depends,now this could be an offence that could get them disbarred he will have millions if he sues", "That sucks dude, is there a way to get your name removed? I'd hate to have that show up when a potential employer googled my name.", "RemindMe! 6 months", "Jesus, Kevin." ]
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Man's own defence lawyer conspires with the prosecution and the judge to get him arrested
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddVl8Gp2rWY
/r/videos/comments/ra3b8u/norm_uses_a_lifeline/
[ "Rip", "He died? I didn't even know he was sick!", "He should have used a life-line.", "EN - Queen, PT - Rainha, ES - Reina", "Coward comedian surrenders to cancer following twelve year battle. \n\nHe definitely didn't choke himself to death. For orgasm reasons.", "Either there or Lisbon for sure.", "you don't lose to cancer, cancer dies too. It's a draw", "It’s definitely somewhere in Spain or Portugal.", "He had a bit about cancer heroes. I accuse him of the other stuff.", "Nah they just know what 2 options most people will torn between.", "Him and Bob Dole in the same year. Not a coincidence.", "What do you mean? He was so sick!!", "Can't believe you didn't know that, what a jerk.", "Or the odds are so high of that happening that it's just luck. Not everything is a conspiracy", " know he was sick!", "should have stopped jerking off punks under the queensborough b ridge", "He wasnt si.. nevermind.", "I'm thinking Europe, for sure.", "Yeah, but it's not much of a conspiracy theory to believe the 50/50 is purposefully the two most likely answers. It could just be one guy in the control room giggling as he purposefully chooses the most likely choices. \n\nIt would be way more of a conspiracy theory to think the audience is purposefully lying when they're called for a lifeline. Yeah, some trolls might purposefully give the wrong answer, but getting the whole audience on board, and keep it a secret gets less believable.", "It's all silly, all of the above likely happens but since we can only speculate, I choose to believe Regis lol", "Ya, there's only 6 possibilities, right?\n\n1 and 2\n\n1 and 3\n\n1 and 4\n\n2 and 3\n\n2 and 4\n\n3 and 4", "It's certainly not random, but it is predetermined to the two most likely answers. The word \"Sofia\" and its spelling draws immediately to Spanish and Portuguese, hence Norm's thoughts and the 50/50 preselection.", "No one did. He didn't make it public.", "Its not Rome, that much is certain.", "[Tell that to Henrietta Lacks](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HeLa).", "Regis pretty much admits this. \"He's been locked in for months.\" So apparently, yes, there is a dude in the back fucking around with the 50/50, but he does it in advance.", "There are only 3 possibilities. A and B, A and C, or A and D. The dude in the back knows that the correct answer is A.", "Regis pretty much admits this in the clip. \"He's been locked in for months.\"", "On a related note, Bob Dole died yesterday.", "ya, they never claimed it was random. Every question always has at least 1 stupid answer if you know anything about the topic. 50/50 will never keep the stupid answer.", "Right, I suppose that's true.\n\nLet's also imagine though that Norm knows it's A or B (which seems to be the case). In his mind then, it's gotta be 5 possibilities. The only one that could be excluded is C and D.", "What I've noticed is when I used to watch this as a kid (and knew pretty much nothing) the two I thought would make it were generally different from the remaining 50/50. That pushes me to think as mentioned, it's just the two closest/most likely answers.\n\nI wonder if they follow the \"Public School Test Rules\", as I call them. Basically, it's a set of rules that almost *all* tests followed (back when I was in school, at least, not sure about now), even the SAT's. This is *only* for multiple choice ones, and as I said, this is most not all, so there's plenty of tests out there that might not follow these rules, or things have changed since I've been in school as well.\n\nBasically, you have four possible answers to a question. They follow these specific rules/attritubes.\n\nA. The correct answer\n\nB. Incorrect answer, but *very* close to A, the correct answer\n\nC. Incorrect answer that's in the same ballpark, but not really close to either A or B.\n\nD. This is a throwaway answer, should be obvious it's wrong immediately if you're actually familiar with the material.\n\n\nSo basically, there's two answers (one of which is the correct one) that are *super* close to each other in relation. There's an answer that's got the right idea, but not close to the actual answer at all. Then there's a completely wrong answer that should be crazy obvious as soon as you look at it.\n\nHow does this help? Well, it makes every question a 50/50. How? You know that two of the answers will be *very* similar, one of which is the correct one, So, just look for the two answers out of four that are the most closely related or similar, you know one is the correct one so now you just knocked the question down to a 50/50 instead of a one out of four chance (assuming you're just picking a random one).\n\nThis worked pretty much throughout the entirety of my public schooling. Of course there were tests that didn't follow this style/standard, but a LOT of them did, some of them being incredibly important tests. For whatever reason, I did really well on tests anyway, but it was extremely helpful if I didn't study enough or got confused and had to guess, as I said it takes a 1/4 to a 1/2, which is huge.", "To both of them", "Who has said that?", "I believe he talked about that 'way of thinking' once, said something like calling Cancer a battle is stupid - for the reason that losing is not something that makes you weak or a failure.", "This is a good time to plug [The Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks ](https://www.amazon.com/Immortal-Life-Henrietta-Lacks/dp/1400052181)\n\nthe story of her life is tragic. Excellent book.", "I've seen a few instances where they will say \"I think its A or B\" and then the 50/50 takes away *both* of those. It usually gets a laugh from the audience because now the contest is entirely lost.", "…people" ]
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Norm uses a lifeline
https://youtu.be/75WFTHpOw8Y
/r/videos/comments/ra4ckw/hello_it_is_christmas_time_and_i_am_sitting_here/
[ "thanks man", "Jesus, how adorable.", "Me everytime she get too close to the circuitry cause there is thousands of volts in there. 😬", "that sounds like something an Icelandic poet would say", "He wouldn't have looked half as good wearing a whole swan.", "I loved that time when she was on Drag Race. \n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBUFasmIWSQ", "Poets beware when a Nymph calls you out", "enjoy your day", "I know it's unlikely that anyone even has an old TV but never open them, the capacitors can store deadly charges, even months after they've been turned off.", "\"You shouldn't let poets lie to you.\" I like that.", "I guess no one told her that even an unplugged CRT TV can store several thousand volts on a capacitor. Touch the wrong thing and it will send you to Jesus.", "There's an alternative timeline where Bjork touched the wrong thing inside that TV and died of heart failure after a horrible electric shock.\n\nThose things are dangerous.", "How could you not fall in love with this woman?", "If only Bjork had a daytime children's show", "How do I deal with the fact that I will never marry Björk?", "I was worried about that necklace..", "That’s a legit concern.", "I'd like to think that Bjork is a real life Leeloo Dallas Multipass, the 5th element and supreme being sent to save us from evil.", "I mean, I'd hope nowadays the safety officer (whatever they're called on set or during planning) would make sure it's been completely discharged. Back then though? Most likely they didn't discharge it, nor even check to see if it held a charge. Made me very uncomfortable seeing her poke about.", "Explains the hair.", "I think that’s why her hair looks like that. This is take #2. /s", "How close her fingers got to the capacitors.. i was worried for a little bit.", "Bjorn Ironside", "\"it looks like a ci-ty\"" ]
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Hello, it is Christmas time and I am sitting here by my TV
https://youtu.be/0Cq5_7aQ7Mc
/r/videos/comments/ra4uvw/rip_college_degree/
[ "Pay your taxes you muppet.", "You don’t need a college education if your parents are rich and well connected…", "That's like saying playing the lottery is a good idea then listing the names of the biggest winners", "Nvidia employee here. So many brilliant minds making bank at this company who dropped out of college. There, I said it." ]
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rip College Degree :')
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUytvAg_hE4
/r/videos/comments/ra5q4u/olivia_colmans_oscar_speech_is_impossible_not_to/
[ "That's Numberwang!", "[1:45](https://youtu.be/YUytvAg_hE4?t=105) Lol Melissa McCarthy looks pissed.", "Thanks for helping me get that ugly sobbing cry out of the way first thing on Monday. She must be an amazing actress because her little speech found, broke, and healed my heart in short order.", "If you haven't, please watch The Crown on Netflix. It's one of Netflix's best shows and each season has been absolutely amazing. She plays the Queen in the last 2 seasons.", "> Melissa McCarthy \n\nDid you mean 1:50? She looks... not angry?", "I'm a brit. I feel like I see through bad British actors pretty easily. It's quite common hence why I tend to watch American and other foreign movies a lot more just because I feel more immersed.\n\nThis woman is painfully good at tearing your heart out on screen. The Father was hard but the big one for me was Tyrannosaur (2011). I guess she wasn't \"big enough\" for an Oscar back then, but that was a role she absolutely nailed.", "Absolutely incredible in Tyrannosaur, that performance left me in pieces. Hadn’t ever heard of her before that, and straight away I was like, this is one of the best actors I’ve ever seen.", "…does she?", "She's just the type of abhuman filth who likes a green bathtub....", "She'll always be Sophie to me", "“Im gonna rear up and kick you in the jaw with my foot bone”", "I thought so but apparently most people disagree 🤷‍♂️", "I... I couldn't live with it...", "Second the crown, but for a lighter side of her early acting career, Check out \"Peep Show\" One of my all time favorite shows. Shes not the two main characters but a fairly big part. It's great seeing her in a lot more serious roles but has a lot of roots in comedy. You can even hear it in this speech how she made quite a few quips.", "I watch some of these from time to time and I've watched hers a couple times. After finally seeing *The Favourite* I can't say that she did or didn't *deserve* the Oscar. I don't know that anyone does but it's always nice to see someone genuinely happy and touched that other people enjoy their work.", "Maybe you have to be a posh English twit to find this heartwarming." ]
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Olivia Colman's Oscar speech is impossible not to smile throughout.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU5eI8KDh18
/r/videos/comments/ra601l/penn_teller_about_global_warming/
[ "Actually, we DO know that it's real and that we're causing it.", "The greenhouse effect has first been calculated in 1896. I think penn and teller are correct in saying we need a bit more data. Its just too early to say.", "> 1) Depending on exactly how you measure the expert consensus, it’s somewhere between 90% and 100% that agree humans are responsible for climate change, with most of our studies finding 97% consensus among publishing climate scientists.\n\n > 2) The greater the climate expertise among those surveyed, the higher the consensus on human-caused global warming.\n\n[The 97% consensus on global warming](https://skepticalscience.com/global-warming-scientific-consensus.htm)", "You should see Pen on celebrity wife swap, it’ll make you cringe…… And it’s not even the fact that Judy Gold was on there too", "a lot can happen in 8 years", "The greenhouse effect has first been calculated in 1896. I think penn and teller are correct in saying we need a bit more data. Its just too early to say.\n\nClimate change has only been a thing for a bit over hundred years. we need at least another 100 years to say its too late.", "It's worth considering that this episode of bullshit is from 2008. [Here's Penn discussing climate change with Lawrence Krauss in 2019](https://youtu.be/rVJhPuH5azI)", "just a bit disappointing. The science was clear back in 2008. It was clear what was happening back in 1970. To excuse that misinformation spread is just bad.", "Exactly this. Take away all the humans and you won't be able to measure any climate change.", "Penn was deeply libertarian at the time. His views on a lot of things, including libertarianism itself, have evolved much since then. He's one of the best examples of public people who make am actual effort to learn and grow over time. Society needs to do a better job at rewarding those who learn from their mistakes, rather than dragging up old shit and painting it as though they said it yesterday.", "Your thoughts mirror my own quite a bit.\n\nI think a lot of the issue is the naïve notion of \"freedom\" that many Americans have come to adopt. They completely fail to understand that the cost of freedom is responsibility. They want the ability to to whatever they want, whenever they want, with absolutely zero repercussions.\n\nAdditionally, I think a lot of professed libertarians are more akin to anarchists.\n\nI went through a long spate of libertarianism from the tail end of the Bush years up until 2015 or so. I still believe that libertarianism looks great on paper and that it would be the ideal philosophy for an ideal world. However, the world that we actually occupy is so distant from that one that I don't think it is really feasible." ]
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Penn & Teller about Global warming
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFY34k1ndw4
/r/videos/comments/ra7ix0/people_often_make_fun_of_jimmy_fallon_for_being/
[ "I loathe him with the heat of ten billion suns.", "The more I hear about this Jimmy Fallon character, the less I care for him.", "Prior to taking over 'The Tonight Show', he was pretty fantastic. It's the mainstream appeal nonsense that has killed his quality, comedic beat, and brand overall (and the fact that he laughs like a school girl at EVERYTHING nowadays.)", "So not his alcohol abuse?", "Jimmy Fallon isn’t funny in any situation.", "He’s never been fantastic. He was a blight to SNL and everything since.", "Jimmy Fallon sucks." ]
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People often make fun of Jimmy Fallon for being giggly and laughing at everything, but he was much more of himself, and far funnier when he co-hosted Diggnation, which he did twice, years ago.
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/ra7xvh/deleted_by_user/
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[ "I’m not sure what’s so hard to understand about taking time off work for the birth of your child. It’s like they think athletes are indentured servants or something.", "Humanity. A decent human being. This is the correct answer.", "but.....the semi-finals....", "if i made 500k/year id throw my first child down a well", "*Baby Jessica has entered the chat*", "Posted for the 9 millionth time", "Just like your comment.", "I'd throw your child down a well for half that much.", "Capitalism!", "[Roy Keane](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQz77eeOK-4) on the same issue.", "Oh Jesus. Was kind of funny though…", "I think my favourite part of this is he didn't get angry with the reporter. Shows a lot of class. \n\nEven if you don't think a child being born is this magical thing, you still need to be there. That's what being a good parent is. When you have a child, the most important thing becomes them. If you're not ready for that, don't have children.", "Every time I see this video I'm amazed at how this dude just had an epic monologue manifest out of nowhere and make the reported seem dumb for asking that but also educate him about life", "Now show me Roy Kent’s take on it !", "Haha that was unexpected, I was preparing for some emotional \"best thing in the world\" type deal like this video. Hahah.", "It's amazing to me that this moment of off the cuff ranting has cemented itself into public consciousness. It's one of the classic genuine moments that get reposted all the time and for a good reason. \n\nIt and many videos like this one are as firmly part of the pop culture as some scenes from blockbuster movies.", "He’s there! He’s there! He’s every f*kn there Roy Kent!", "This man is class personified." ]
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[deleted by user]
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/ra8367/deleted_by_user/
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[ "This was a lot worse than I thought it would have been.", "Wdym?", "Like, I thought it was be some cheesy comedy, it turned out to be cringe.", "Okay, first of all, ouch, second of all how can I improve it? I'm open to criticism.", "I think it's more of a subject matter and sound bits you chose to use. I'm not really creative so not sure how you can make it better. It just didn't really work for me.", "Ah okay, I think one of the problems is definitely the fact that I had to add dialogue to it. There's no easy way to do that, I kind wish I just muted that part. Anyway thanks for the criticism, have a nice day man!" ]
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[deleted by user]
https://youtu.be/zzLC6cxbZgU
/r/videos/comments/ra8j5m/what_happens_when_you_cant_eat_mcdonalds_for/
[ "Apparently, you wait until you can, eat McDonald’s", "You lose weight, your diarrhea goes away?", "You get to eat real food. You get healthier. **When you do try it again, it tastes like shit.**", "Seriously, fuck this guy. I thought he was a good actor because he seemed so genuine about his love for McDonald's. So they whole time I'm waiting for a catch and it's going to be funny. No. This fuckwad is legit excited for McDonald's and talked about it for 5 and a half fucking minutes. Unreal.", "HAHAH", "I watched the whole thing, and just so you know, your comment of “5 and a half fucking minutes” made it worth it to me! I’m cracking up!" ]
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What happens when you can't eat McDonald's for months?
https://youtu.be/QFgcqB8-AxE
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[ "Especially the religious ones.", "Osho calling it like it always was. But this was the good ol' 2000 years Socratic call on Democracy failure.", "Religious ones are proven to be the easiest to manipulate.", "One of the best videos ever.", "Saying this while getting his dick sucked by someone else wife.", "I mean he has a point.", "The past few years really brought this home for me.\n\n* People saying the US election was stolen till they are blue in the face. Because of facebook post circlejerks.\n* People not taking vaccinations and dying in large numbers. Because of memes.\n* People in crowds waiting for JFK and Michael Jackson to come save them.", "R*ddit: \"Haha yeah he's talking about the people I disagree with, not me.\"", "You don't call retarded people retards. Its bad taste. You call your friends retards when they are being retarded.", "What was the question?" ]
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Democracy