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https://youtu.be/2rdEX1iDSlk	/r/videos/comments/rbfqzh/detective_gets_suspended_after_rubbing_a_warrant/	[ "Man I wonder what happens next", "Cop was frustrated I feel a suspension was too much unless this cop had a history of losing his cool\n\nAs much as it sucks once you are getting arrested you have to let it happen, at any point one of them (the cops) could have screamed \"weapon\" and he probably would have been murdered", "How does that boot taste?", "Cops need to know that petty unprofessionalism is not acceptable. They are supposed to deescalate situations. Rubbing a handcuffed man's face is a bitch move and I hope the cop lost pay for doing this.", "Cops aren't responsible for their own emotional outbursts, now?", "Lol right?", "Well given their track record they can't be held responsible responsible for murder, injury, public safety, inciting public disturbance, or emotional control...\n\nSo, what exactly are cops good for then? Why do we continue being charged taxes so we can babysit these people?", "There used to be a time where unlawful cops were dealt with, now we gotta deal with people who suck leather all day.", "I hope your understanding of consent is better than your understanding of human dignity and responsibility of authority.", ">one of them (the cops) could have screamed \"weapon\" and he probably would have been murdered\n\n...You realize you've set the room temperature for human dignity at: \"We didn't deliberately murder you\", right? I'd break this down, but it's so cartoonish that it'd be sad to waste the effort.", "nothing", "Still was not handled properly.", "Notice how they protected the PUBLIC servants' identities but not the INNOCENT MAN'S.", "I hope to fuck I maintain composure as well as this dude if I’m ever getting arrested, and I know for a fact that the arrest is a waste of everyone’s time and I could prove it if everyone would just look at my phone right quick.", "Resist abduction.", "timestamp to title?", "He is innocent based on what facts? (Beyond the implicit assumption of innocence). What makes him factually and ultimately innocent? What is the back story here Mr. OP?\n\n&#x200B;\n\n\\\\Edited for those who jump directly to false equivocations of assumed innocence and actual innocence. There is a big difference between assumption of and actual state of innocence. I am only addressing his actual innocence in the above as per the facts of his case beyond the scope of this video.", "the part where \"innocent until proven guilty\" and since we are on the internet and can't prove him guilty he's innocent you fucktard", "You know what my dude I'll tell you something... What kind of a person... and let me tell you something... Ugh.. This guy, you know, considering they were trying to arrest him, Yeah, you know what the man is going to get defensive. That's natural! That's natural human behavior... but what kind of a person... what human being exerts power over another human being, even with the authority, then puts the man in shackles and chains, okay... takes the man, renders him completely defenseless... and then physically assaults him... in the face!!! with a piece of paper, or any fucking inanimate object? I'll tell you who does it. A goddamn, mother fucking coward. fuck that officer and fuck anybody who abuses their power like that... because, I don't care, like, that's their job... they need to keep their fucking emotions in check... not the fucking person who's... not used to losing his freedom over some fucking paperwork. Jesus fucking Christ listen to you defending them. God it just burns me up.", "The fact that he hasn't been proven guilty to within a reasonable doubt.\n\nYou are innocent until the trial is over and they decide you're guilty.\n\nPERIOD.", "People shouldn't be treated like this. It's fucked up that people can just get a badge and be able to physically dominate someone who isn't even aggressive. The dude even went to the precinct himself.", "wow. Unexpected use of \"fugazi\" at [5:07](https://youtu.be/2rdEX1iDSlk?t=307). WTF? Who the fuck uses fugazi in a sentence?", "Sorry, a person is not categorically and FACTUALLY innocent as they may have outstanding (convicted) crimes that are answered by a return to jail as in the case of some warrants. Ok Einstein?\n\n&#x200B;\n\nTry again?", "yes. they are. they literally are that's how this works. I'm sorry you don't understand. There's still hope: you could pull your head out of your ass.", "Based on the assumption that this is not a failing to appear, a bench warrant etc. One can be found guilty in absentia and brought in under a warrant. \n\nNo facts presented here indicate either way the nature of the accused legal standings.", "And so, by default: innocent.", "you haven't provided anything to prove otherwise so I'm not sure what point you are trying to make. if you can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that this man is guilty then please proceed. until then shut the fuck up.", "What part of the English language eludes you in understanding the \"they may have crimes that are answered by a return to jail as in the case of some warrants.\"\n\nHow about \"tried in abstentia and found guilty prior?\" Your crackerjack law degree is worthy of a refund.", "\"guilty in absentia\"\n\n= GUILTY", "You can see him limping in the background at 2:30... going for the worker's comp Oscar.", "I mean he walks peacefully into a police station. Walk up to the man, like he's white (meaning like they would if he was white or a fellow cop...), with fucking dignity. Say hey listen, thanks for showing up here today we have this warrant for your arrest, please allow us to walk you into the back for processing. I mean it doesn't look like that happened here it looked like the guy was being catty like playing a fucking game of cat and mouse. Oh shoot we got a catch, let's gaslight him so he'll put up a fight.", "No facts presented here indicate either way the nature of the accused legal standings. \n\n\nINNOCENT.", "where are you seeing the guilty by absentia in this video?", "So then, the cop is innocent too.", "what part of this video make you assume guilt? can you describe what about this man that makes you so confident he is guilty and deserves to be treated like shit?\n\nEDIT: if he is guilty do you think it was okay for the officer to cheekily slam a paper into the mans face?", "Look up what a tu quoque is. You literally just undermined your own argument. Great job.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nWhat school failed you so? Is your life of crime in irrational arguments creating some serious anger issues here? Do you need assistance?", "I can see what makes me feel that the officer is guilty but yea you are right. that officer is still innocent. I'm making judgements of the officer regardless but he is innocent until proven otherwise.", "Actually no.\n\n> Detective Kopchak was accused of the following:\n- Failed to employ de-escalation techniques\n- Rubbed arrest warrant papers in the face of arrestee\n\n> Detective Kopchak was found guilty on both specifications and as a consequence was given a 1 workday suspension without pay.", "I never said he was guilty Genius. What you fail to realize is that none here have the whole story (you / me etc). He factually could be guilty and this warrant may not be a new charge but rather enforcement of a bench warrant for a convicted crime sentence. In that case he is not considered for due process of the burden of proof of the state but rather treated as a fugitive etc. \n\n&#x200B;\n\nWhat is so hard for you here?", "I am not. I am addressing the unknowns whereas others are making assumptions as to his blanket innocence. I simply asked what those assumptions are based on past the assumed Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments of the U.S. Constitution.", "what you are choosing to ignore is that the default standing of a human being is innocent. What I'm beginning to realize is I can't help you and I'm wasting my time throwing a tantrum at you. so you can carry on being certain of your ignorance. I hope you have a nice evening.", "Little known fact about police work.\n\nYou don't get paid extra for fucking with people and manhandling them. If you do it, its because you like it.", "Nothing is difficult here except for your urge to paint this man as guilty, when by default, he is innocent by the law, your words, and common sense. Just because there is some possibility that someone somewhere found him guilty is irrelevant. He is innocent until the courts find him guilty. No proof that he's guilty? Innocent. Hasn't been to court yet? Innocent. Arrested with a murder weapon in his hand? Innocent until trial. Sure, he did it, but he's not legally guilty until the courts prove it.\n\nThe fact that you feel so compelled to attach guilt to him, to the point that you wanna argue facts, logic, AND reason, is ironically pretty fucked up, u/FactsLogicReason.", "He willingly showed up at the police station, what is the point of cuffing him? He's obviously not trying to run away.. fucking racist idiot american cops on power trips.", "The system is fucked up and fuckups like this happen all of the time. I 100% believe his search and the people he spoke to were working off the same damn system that says he should be arrested.", "So like, did they actually have a legit warrant?", "You need to read what people write rather than what you imagine they did. \n\nI said: \"He is innocent based on what facts?\" This surpasses the constitutional rights to due process and innocent of guilt until proven guilty. \n\nThe qualifier was \"FACTS\" WHAT FACTS INDICATE HE IS INNOCENT? This would be along the lines of... Him being wrongfully charged, wrongfully identified, exonerated later etc. The person I addressed used the terminology: \"Notice how they protected the PUBLIC servants' identities but not the INNOCENT MAN'S\". This is suggestive that he was arrested and found NOT GUILTY as if this happened years ago etc. \n\nOne does not normatively say things like: \"Hitler was arrested today and that Innocent MAN is on trial.\" That would be to imply the OP knows of facts that make Hitler INNOCENT either pre hoc or post hoc. We address those arrested as \"Accused\" or \"Perpetrator /Perps\" etc. \n\nThe OP of \"Notice how they protected the PUBLIC servants' identities but not the INNOCENT MAN'S\" is suggesting by their language that they have access to knowledge we do not. I simply asked for the facts they were privy to. \n\n&#x200B;\n\nDo you yet understand?", "Why go out searching for people if you can get them to come to you?\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LsNBA2XwXU", "\"what you are choosing to ignore is that the default standing of a human being is innocent. \"\n\n\\- Factually that is wrong. It is only applicable under some countries judicial systems and constitutions and even the US limits that application. It does not apply in some civil courts, motor vehicle courts etc\n\n\\- This is also a straw man of what I actually wrote. Read back you arm chair legal school drop out.", "That's not what they lied about.", "This cloud have just been the conversation they were having at the end. They didn’t need to tackle him and cuff him to do that. There’s obviously some confusion and like you said, he went there voluntarily to clear it up. Would it have been that hard to just show him the warrant and let him read it and he would have been able to show what he was talking about on his phone and the whole thing could have been avoided.", "@2.39", "Get ready for all the comments feom the pearl clutching left.", "Sorry bro he's a total narcissist and will not consider what you say. Everyone reading this can see he's on some r/iamverysmart conquest.", "yep. super defeated. good job. I have entirely changed my mind and I think everyone else is as well. you're a hero jimmy!", "In short, you have no logical negation to the facts of the dialogue so you stand slack jawed. \n\n&#x200B;\n\nPlease go to school, learn how to navigate the English language and simple propositional logic. We will all benefit in your intellectual betterment.", "You need to read what people write rather than what you imagine they did. \nI said: \"He is innocent based on what facts?\" This surpasses the constitutional rights to due process and innocent of guilt until proven guilty. \nThe qualifier was \"FACTS\" WHAT FACTS INDICATE HE IS INNOCENT? This would be along the lines of... Him being wrongfully charged, wrongfully identified, exonerated later etc. \n\nThe person I addressed used the terminology: \"Notice how they protected the PUBLIC servants' identities but not the INNOCENT MAN'S\". This is suggestive that he was arrested and found NOT GUILTY as if this happened years ago etc. \n\n\nOne does not normatively say things like: \"Hitler was arrested today and that Innocent MAN is on trial.\" That would be to imply the OP knows of facts that make Hitler INNOCENT either pre hoc or post hoc. We address those arrested as \"Accused\" or \"Perpetrator /Perps\" etc.\n\n \nThe OP of \"Notice how they protected the PUBLIC servants' identities but not the INNOCENT MAN'S\" is suggesting by their language that they have access to knowledge we do not. I simply asked for the facts they were privy to.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nGo to school kid. So many here cannot read. That is the real crime.", "I'm enjoying watching you flail.", "Come back when you can build a syllogism supporting your negation rather than playing a grade school game.", "have fun on thesaurus.com. I really enjoyed watching this all play out. it was an excellent gaslight I'll give you that. I notice you still haven't responded to one of my posts.", "Where are you citing this information from? I assume it's more official than the YouTube channel of Cleveland Area Body Cams.", "I think you need a new username, buddy.", "He got a 1 day suspension according to the video description.", "Dude jerk yourself off somewhere else. I'm literally spelling it out un your own fucking words but it's more important that you FEEL right then even BE right. I'm blocking you now, so have fun with whatever more dumb shit you come up with and take your own advice. Go read a goddamn book.", "Please stop commenting on Reddit, you are a fountain of negativity and you aren't changing anyone's minds. Your logic and reason are just used to insult others and to increase your ego. If your goal is actually to influence others you are doing it all wrong. That is not achieved by being combative and insulting.", "Present your negation here if you want it addressed. I have other people to educate, you are not alone.", "Cheers", "Those detectives need to be fired and charged. They are a disgrace.", "A fucking syllogism lmaooo\n\nYou're a stereotype. I sincerely mean this when I say go touch grass", "lmao why are you so sensitive", "really? it seems an awful lot like you are giving up with all those copy pasted responses.\n\nif he is guilty do you think it was okay for the officer to cheekily slam a paper into the mans face?", "~@2:39", "Do you show these posts to people you date?\n\nYou should, if not, these are *wild* accomplishments that I imagine you're very proud of.", "it's okay. I did call them a fucktard which at the time was a little uncalled for. On the bright side they proved me out :)", "Dude Godwin'd himself while trying to push forth a legitimate argument about cops. He's either a middling troll dedicated long past the joke's shelf life or an absolute moron who has a Bachelor's in philosophy.\n\nTotal waste of time to even engage with in earnest either way, though.", "His guilt or innocence is separate from the crimes the arresting officer is accused of. So funny how you have little issue professing the innocence of one person while not the other while both are in the same situation temporally. Morally and legally I think the officer should be fired and charged with assault. Does that make him guilty? No, that is for the courts to decide later and likely/sadly in favour of his blue/white ilk.", "Are you capable of being civil and mature? Why not stick to the facts of the matter? If you prefer the childishness nature of your modus, I can move along to relatively more mature interlocutors.", "Taking photographs and video of things that are plainly visible in public spaces is a constitutional right—and that includes transportation facilities, the outside of federal buildings, and police and other government officials carrying out their duties.", "Have pigs ever thought to show the documents before making the demands or are their brains incapable of common sense?", "Or maybe they stop hiring pigs with less education than the local janitor.", "Civil and mature? Oh, you're going down that route are you? That's interesting, I wouldn't expect somebody to write paragraphs of condescending bullshit over a youtube video to be civil and mature but that's just me.\n\nPlease, interloc the fuck out of yourself, by all means, but don't mistake your antics as civil and mature when you and I both know you're adding syllables to touch your ego in ways your prostate will never experience. That we can agree on, can't we? We're being civil and mature after all.\n\nI can keep going if you've got the stamina, but you seem to have an aversion to what you deem childishness at your whimsy. Is it just prickliness?", "I did profess the innocence of the officer to floridacoppers comment and then another user shared that the cop was actually proven guilty for the crime shown in the video.\n\nthe difference being that I could see the crime the officer committed. That still doesn't make that officer guilty until he goes to court. \n\nyour gaslight is slowly burning out. you have anything to get that fire going again? it's just sad now that either of us are still talking to each other.", "Omg stfu Ben Shapiro", "Why use much word when few do trick?", "I prefer croque monsieur", "Dude just finished his 1st year philosophical logic exam and is fucking rearing to go from the sounds of things ahahah.\n\nHe's gonna get torn apart on his dissert, poor guy doesn't know what's coming.", "Translation: No you cannot engage on the merits of the post as emotions and a bruised ego have nullified your ability to converse further.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nBased on that revelation.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nCheers", "If I rubbed anything in someone’s face at my job. Instant fired. Why isn’t their accountability in police work? Especially if our laws say innocent until proven guilty then there is no justification in treating the arrested or detained maliciously because they are “wrong doers”. So absolutely absurd", "History or no, most people would be fired from their jobs for that behavior. It should be especially unacceptable for someone in a position of power.\n\nTalk to the man like an adult instead of immediately escalating and this might have turned out completely different.", "Hence why I diverge from wasting more time here.", "but you're still here", "So, prickliness.\n\nGo look up that in your thesaurus.\n\nMeans \"lil bitch\" in words people who talk down to others use.\n\nFunny, your facts logic and reason don't really seem to do well in these kinds of scenarios. Odd. Wonder if the real world couldn't actually be boiled down to being manipulated by whatever tools you use to gain control over your situation?\n\nYou do know that's what you're doing right? Picking and choosing things based on if they're easy for you to tackle with your, with an obvious foot forward, most prominent skillset? That's hilariously sad.\n\nCheers to you too mate, I hope you find something to lean on as a crutch other than pitiful attempts at intellectual dismissal. I sorta wanted to play ball, but I accept your resignation as a sign of respect for your dire situation.\n\nAnd based on that revelation, if you need somebody to talk to just send me a message.", "Not much of a retort of the logic therein. Hence it stands still.", "That me like!", "Omg, he keeps going.", "> Hence why I diverge from wasting more time here.\n\nThat's not how you use that word. Definitely wouldn't conjugate it that way, in the very least.", "Dude’s probably going back through his own comments on this thread and fapping violently", "They've been pulling the \"I'm more mature than you\" route the second the water gets too spicy, it's pathetic.", "Why is American police so disgusting ? like wtf, is it smtg in the water ? or being a sadist is a perquisite to enter the force or smtg ?", "> Does that make him guilty? No, that is for the courts to decide later\n\nYou just contradicted your main argument, are you drunk?", "When has that ever stopped reddit?", "1 day suspension without pay for the paper rubber\n\nSystem's fucked, fuck cops", "A badge apparently give you the power to treat others as animals, and it's completely seen as normal in Uncle Sam's country", "Yes", "Docile and breedable right", "By \"addressing the unknowns\", you of course mean \"everyone else must present facts, but I don't play by my own rules\"", "Stop using words you don’t know the meaning of", "Dude, there are certain places that have UNPAID police officers. \n\n\nThe power fantasy is the pay.", "The fact that he was suspended shows hes not innocent, right? Like if he was innocent then he wouldn't of been punished.", "Actually you are categorically innocent until proven otherwise in a court of your peers. My source is the same source as yours. Fictitious.", "How did you concluded that? Demonstrate where my logic is flawed by identifying any logical fallacies (formal or informal) and cite their context.", "Facts could not be obtained from this video as the police did not allow him to show proof on his phone, and did not call internal affairs from what we can see. However, there was no proof of this man’s guilt, only statements made by the officers and the man. Logic and reason would suggest that the man has proof which he wanted to display before being arrested. Even if it did not hold up, he is still claiming to be in the right with sound logic (dated documents). The idea that you would ask for facts of his innocence in this situation is fundamentally backwards with the simple notion of presumed innocent until proven guilty. A warrant itself is not an admission of guilt and they can be amended. So once again you be digging that hole.", "Demonstrate my improper use of such words both in situ and then within the proper context. I can only learn by it.", "Its fucking gross", "The ones that describe the true and accurate state of affairs in which we live.", "I can hear you screaming in this comment. Not a good look.", "Cite where I disagreed with that anywhere here. I only referred to any fact(s) of the actual innocence eluded to in the OP's statement. Was this person upheld as being innocent after the release of this video?", "What you’re saying is completely absurd. There is no way this man will get his head out his ass. It is clearly stuck for good and it is rude to give someone hope of breathing fresh air when they simply refuse to. Localtech I hope you reconsider your words in the future, for shame.", "yea, no I agree. I didn't know for sure he had been charged or disciplined. another user shared that they were punished. I'm not sure of the source of that information but when I made that comment I didn't have that information.", "It's the title of the video", "https://youtu.be/DrKuC74jdNc", "Do you think news stations re air the slots where they originally said \"x is accused of Y\" and dub over it with \"x did Y\". No they don't because it's all in the context of when it was filmed.", "I was asking for the OP to share any facts that they used in concluding the innocence of the accused. One does not typically refer to a person being arrested as \"the innocent man\" unless they hold a prior or post trial knowledge set. The legal innocence is inherent/implied in the state prior to a conclusion of guilt by Judge/Jury. I was clarifying what makes the man actually (factually) innocent of the crime he is accused of.", "I hope you go to school and learn how to read what is above you in simple English.", "ok. i can write a title to say anything. I can comment anything. I'm still not sure the cop actually got punished because my source is a random redditor. so you know... I agreed with you.", "No but the guy obtains these officer body cams thru public records for the whole public world to see, why in the hell would he reasonably lie to his viewers about something like that?", "I hear no rebuttal from you based on the facts of the above. Move along unless you care to engage like an adult.", "\"Do you think news stations re air the slots where they originally said \"x is accused of Y\" and dub over it with \"x did Y\". No they don't because it's all in the context of when it was filmed.\"\n\n\\- Well that made little to no sense. Do you have an English translation?", "Next time I'm frustrated with how a cop is demeaning another human being I'll be sure to go rub a piece of paper in their face and tell you how that turns out. \n\n\nThe police are not your friend. They are the tool of rich capitalists there to oppress nothing more nothing less.", "Then might I suggest a reframing of your question to “Was the man ever able to display his documents? Did the call to internal affairs clear up the issue?” Your framing of your initial question can be taken in quite a few directions itself which is surprising since you considered your position valid through semantics where your syntax was unclear and hostile.", "This has nothing to do with documents etc. I am not asking if he can prove his innocence (the accused). The original post was addressing a person that seemed to imply they were factually in the know that the accused was factually innocent not constitutionally innocent. I see now how the statement I made was misconstrued by some but my proviso of \"Fact\" implies a state of information beyond the assumed innocence ... and addressing the actual innocence.", "Fugazi is similar to FUBAR yeah?", "Stop crying, snowflake.", "\"we're not lying to you sir we wouldn't lie to you\" lmao can't believe the cop actually had the gall to say that.", "PD all over the country turned into this mindless dumb gang. Here it quickly turned into a hands-behind-your-back fight to the death power play. So embarrassing. They literally hire the low level trash for this too and that shit is consistently happening everywhere. Wtf is going on.\n\nThey can't treat people who like this if they are just standing around. That guy wasn't a threat to anyone.", "He had a warrant for his arrest.", "Well they are usually rubbing the constitution in the dirt, so this is an improvement at least.", "No, it's another word for fake or artificial.", "I think it's required to handcuff people who are under arrest. You can never know what someone will do to get out of going to jail.", "I see what you are trying to get to, you want to know more. However, even in your edited version of the post you rhetoric is confrontational and does not come off as clarifying. It seems like you are still arguing that it is other’s fault for not understanding your intentions. I don’t think you are a prick, although I did. But I do think that you got caught down a path that wasn’t you’re intent and began arguing to stay a float instead of pulling back and reframing with humility. You probably are logical, but as you can see through this thread language is shaped by the context in which it is presented. Once again, your question may have been neutral and exploratory but it did not strike me that way, and most likely others due to the sentiments conveyed in the post you replied to.", "lol, he would be screened out pretty fast", "Ah ok, thanks", "I found an article where the officer in question was investigated for police brutality back in 2011, assuming there isn't another Donald Kopchack who is in Cleveland. \n\nhttps://www.cleveland.com/metro/2011/02/cleveland_only_big-city_police.html", "Not much of a retort of the logic therein. Hence it stands still.", "I hear no rebuttal from you based on the facts of the above. Move along unless you care to engage like an adult.", "Most likely department policy.", "I am fine with the controversy. We all learn from asking more questions as we go down a socratic path of conversation.\n\nI think I need to stand by my original framing and the edited one as perceived correctly or incorrectly it is a teaching tool to all, including me. My students will be asked to look at this on Friday. We will critique all the responses from the original post down. \n\nA false equivocation of language is very common. As in \"Scientific Theory* / layman's Theory. If people were more honest they would simply ask for clarification as apposed to jumping to conclusions. We/I do that often... we assume the worst in others. Simple W-5's can make a big difference. I started that journey with an overly (in retrospect) simplistic query. \n\n&#x200B;\n\nCheers and thanks for sharing in the only civil conversation I have had yet on this thread. Keep up the respectful nature of your interactions.", "Suspended...with pay!", "How so? What \"logic\" was I to address? Do go on.", "because police unions allow this kind of revolting behavior to continue.\n\nYou can also thank them for the good ol' \"we did an internal investigation and found no wrongdoing\" or when an officer does something terminable, but only gets relocated to a different precinct.", "/r/iamverysmart", "Parroting my vernacular is rather childish. I was not addressing you earlier. When I do address you, you will know it as I will reply to you as I am now in a direct chain of custody.\n\nIf you would like to address my rebuttals at a point before the de-evolution started, and you now perpetuate then do that. It would be appreciated and far more productive for all.", "Do you have something productive to offer here? If so, do so, else run along.", "Fucking pigs", "That's not fair. You have no reason to believe FartsLogicReason has a hot sister.", "Crazy how everything in that country comes down to politics.", "Ah yes, the coveted American de-escalation technique.", "I like how as this goes on he's come up with the strategy of \"if I sound more and more like an absolute walloper with every comment, eventually they'll have to admit I win!\"\n\nAt first he was just an unlikable tosser, but at this point he's reached a level of insufferable that is almost admirable.", "This wasn't even filmen in Absentia, so shows how dumb you are!\n\nIt was filmed in America, you need to do your research!", "Jan 6th wasn't dems either. No one likes authority figures when they're telling them no or doing things they disagree with. Let's stop making shit political unless we want to go back a few years and point out all the good ole boys getting in shootouts with cops.", "Yeah... but if that's how he was acting in police station... how the hell would he act if they went to his house?", "God damn, this guy reeks of /r/iamverysmart ... then I read his username.", "Wait.... do you actually think that's something that happens? \n\nAre you real?", "Look... the guy wasn't searched yet, he has a federal warrant. Those don't just pop up randomly and they don't mess with shoplifters etc. He went to the precinct himself because of being told they had his stuff and his fed charges were dropped. The guy isn't there because he was turning himself in, he just wanted his stuff. He wasn't pat down, I didn't see a metal detector, and he was not permitting himself to be placed into custody. I agree they shouldn't have pushed the warrant into his face, but if you're going to offer criticism offer advice to fix the situation.", "100% fake account", "you do realize, even when someone is charged with a crime, they are still considered to be innocent till proven guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt. People aren't guilty until they are sentenced for the crime the have been found guilty of. Also, I could just ask you the same retarded question, \"He is guilty based on what facts? (Beyond implicit assumptions of guilt). What makes him factually and ultimately guilty? What is the back story to your dumb ass line of questioning u/FactsLogicReason ?\" smdh", "You are a fucking idiot", "[Police are not obligated to put arrestees in handcuffs.](https://www.findlaw.com/legalblogs/criminal-defense/when-can-police-place-you-in-handcuffs/)", "bro you sound like a shitty british knock off fallout NPC, just because you use fancy words don't make you smart lmfao go back to eating your crayons and reading the dictionary you phukin psycho lmfao", "What's your point? They didn't say he doesn't.", "\"Put your hands behind your back.\"\n\n\"I don't want to though!\"\n\nYeah you're an idiot if this is your response to a police officer. \n\nGlad the officer got suspended for that but the suspect was just as much of an idiot.", "Maybe act normal if they would’ve just explained to him that he was actually indicted and the warrant was legit.", "If a police officer tells you to put your hands behind your back, you do it. It's as simple as that. You have no fucking right to haggle, lol 😂", "How so? What \"logic\" was I to address? Do go on.", "If the officers have to handcuff him for safety they should have said so. Two cops wildly and confusingly talking over each other with increasing hectic and physical pressure doesn't help anything. The person held their hands up the entire time. There was no indication he was malicious like that. He wanted clarity on what is happening and why.", "When I do address you, you will know it as I will reply to you as I am now in a direct chain of custody.\n\nIf you would like to address my rebuttals at a point before the de-evolution started, and you now perpetuate then do that. It would be appreciated and far more productive for all.", "They tell him to turn around and put his hands behind his back. Why? \"Because I asked you to\" and then they moved into being physical, and escalating the situation. There's a lack of communication, and a lack of offering basic respect. My advice, as a starter, would be for police to treat people with dignity.", "Cops are legally allowed to lie to you ,even about evidence they do not have. This is why you always should seek counsel and not speak to police by telling them you invoke your 5th amendment right. Also make sure they know you want a lawyer. If you are currently on a warrant it is also better to have a lawyer mediate for you and negotiate your surrender to authorities. \n\nThere is a messed up case where someone remained silent but did not invoke the 5th and it was used in court, which is super scummy by the courts. So make sure you invoke your right to remain silent verbally announcing it and/or mentioning the 5th amendment.", "I don't understand a lot of the comments here. Is it me or are people saying police should give people who have a federal warrant out for them the benefit of the doubt and not handcuff them/search them?\n\nCool. Either way, the police here do suck - The paper rubbing and manipulation/lying is the kicker, Other than that, I don't know what else they could've done differently?", "Now apply that logic to the professionals in the situation. If they're going to be unclear, refused to state why he's under arrest, literally rub paper in his face, etc when they know they're on camera and being watched by superiors... how will they act when they think they're less likely to be seen by people who might hold them accountable.\n\nComparatively, this guy just held his hands above his head instead of behind his back and asked why they're arresting him.", "I can't imagine what kinda warped perspective you must have to look at this video and think \"Yep, that was handled professionally\", he asked to see his warrant, instead of having 4 blokes throw him around an office for 5 minutes for holding up an arm, they could have simply produced the paperwork to see how being civil panned out.", "I think the stats get much more slim when you manage to do it and make the news twice.", "\"Were not lying to you sir, we would not lie to you\"-that last half is most certainly a lie...", "The cop should have been charged with simple assault. The suspect would have.", "If you aggressively rubbed paper in someones face you could get yourself arrested, by police officers that get away with the same aimlessly aggressive behavior.", "And it's not necessarily unreasonable to handcuff him! I don't really see anyone in here complaining about them doing that. But that they weren't particularly clear about what was going on? And failed to treat him even vaguely human? This is the sort of stuff that cops do that escalates situations rather than de-escalating them.", "Not a US citizen nor have I ever lived there, but haven't there been multiple cases stating that you are not required to open your mouth to state you invoke the 5th? \n\nI'm fairly sure you don't have to actually speak to invoke the 5th, but simply remaining silent is enough. Can't remember specifics at the top of my head, but I shall have a quick look around in a while. But usually my memory serves me right.", "Shame that /r/videos doesn't have an \"obvious troll\" option on the report.", "Dude was completely calm, and it's criminal to treat people like this.\n\nAfter being abused, this dude is totally chill and reasonable.\n\nThere was zero reason to treat a human as an animal in this situation.", "Yeah, and if you listen to the whole thing, the following day, he got paperwork saying he was cleared.\n\nMessed up paperwork happens constantly in bureaucracy.\n\nThese cops are a great example off why we need civic officials first, and cops to be used like firefighters. Only call them when there's an emergency.", "To be fair, there's some black people in there doing inhumane treatment. And sometimes it's white people getting inhumanely treated (see Daniel Schaver being murdered while crying and crawling on the floor of a hotel by Officer Philip Brailsford of the Mesa Police Department, for example. That's not to say that black folk and other minorities don't get targeted , just that there's reason for everyone to be selfishly angry and want this rotten system to change.", "Suspend and educate all those fuckers. Fire the dick that rubbed the papers in his face.", "I think the case he's talking about is kinda recent and could potentially be used as precedent going forwards.", "The issue is police violence, not racism.\n\nOld racist attitudes and laws over many decades have left us with situations where there is a lack of social mobility in predominantly black and poor neighborhoods, but it's the result of things that happened several generations ago.\n\nPolice abuse everyone, and we need some kind of civic institution before the police are involved, as they are heavy militarized. History shows they're only ever motivated to protect property and wealth, not people.", "No, the 5th ammendment must be invoked.", "Take out racist, and the rest makes sense.\n\nRacism isnt as much of a thing, as classism and vaccine status these days.\n\nFor instance many think if your homeless, you're automatically a thief/addict/crazy person. \n\nThis is rather similar to policy from the first half of last century that could be called racist, but that's not so much of a problem anymore, as most people have had enough experiences around people of different color, that they dont see them as some kind of scary unknown.", "Ah yes, guilty of potential violence at all times, and never presumed to be a reasonable and calm human.\n\nI do believe there are times when that could be true, but this guy was as zen as you could possibly be the entire time.", "At 9:50, says it all...", "> argumentative and mouthy\n\nTell me you think the cops did nothing wrong without telling me you think the cops did nothing wrong.\n\nHe wasn't \"argumentative and mouthy\". He was standing up for his rights.", "I once went in to try and deal with a traffic ticket and arrest warrant. The local police were all gone dealing with a bank robbery, so I went to see if the Highway Patrol could help.\n\nThere i'm standing with my father and step mom behind me, and bail bondsman to one side.\n\nAs soon as the lady I was talking to herd I had a warrant out for my arrest for an unpayed ticket, she wanted to arrest me right then, and her body language and tone suggested she was about to leap forward and do so.\n\nThe officer in charge heard the tone change, and immediately walked up to find out what was going on. I explained things to him, and he calmed down his officer, and directed us to the county jail to get it cleared up.\n\nNot really relevant, but the woman involved was black, but I never assumed racism. Just thought, \"oh great, another insane cop who got this job because the want an excuse to be violent.\"\n\nMaybe if we sent police officers into the military for a few years they'd be trained better, and burnt out on using violence, as it's disgusting and should be a last choice.", "Don't act in a way that will get you reported, and you won't get reported. \"Good\" cops don't piss people off like that.\n\nThe real issue isn't false reports of violence/brutality, but systems that protect officers by allowing them to move to other police departments without bringing their history with them.", "Yeah, because i'd rather not get shot, and I know they're sheet at their job, and prone to violence.\n\nPolice are the strong arm of the biggest organized crime ring in the country.", "It sounds like what happend is he got lost in the system. Specially he's saying a seargant working on his case with IA he's probably got an assault or something that went federal and they solved his restrictions in a district court and the detectives didn't have updated paper work. That shit happens.\n\nI had to kick this hood Chic out of my place one time cause she started using meth and stealing from me so I took her shit down her luggage down To her job and blew her life up cause she wanted to get crazy so I got wild with her and threw her shit out pretty much. next thing I know I got a meth crazed villain trying to break down my door and the cop who was called to the scene was like not even batting an eye at this woman's behavior and starts to ask us who i was. I was with my fiancé at the time. I almost got arrested because I was with my fiance because we had a domestic violence incident 6 months previous. we had to go to court and petition the restraining order so I could stop hiding out at home because she and I are disabled and I handle a lot of her day to day activities. Long story quick hero detective outta somewhere shows up at my crib literally as the street cop is about to blow a brain vessel he wants to arrest me for violating no contact so bad and the detective shows up and was like oh yeah Mr. Brown we heard your name on the radio and came to clear this up. Officer McNally has old paperwork and we need you to sign these documents before he arrests you.... it was settled in court 2 weeks prior and the case was dropped and they didn’t have the updated no contact at the serifs station…. Learn how to imagine a story in your head. Advice I suppose for the future generation.\n\nOld warrants can follow or old restrictions can follow you around if it doesn’t trickle down departmentally right and a lot of the time it doesn’t. You hear people say our justice system is fucked. Well it is. Half the time the orders never get processed properly and it’s the average everyday citizen it fucks over 9/10\n\nNot some type of thug or criminal.", "This guy just copied top YouTube comment lmao", "Maybe. Sounded like a clerical error, and the original warrant never got removed as it would take a specific order to do so.\n\nGuy said the indictment got cancelled the following day. This would have removed the cause for an arrest warrant. But technically the arrest warrant never got cancelled, because they dont care about people. \n\nThere are little to no checks and balances for police, other than them not going against other police.", "Oh it definitely happens in some cities, but it's definitely not across the entire country\n\nEdit -- yea, antifa totally wasn't openly trying to and actually doxing cops and calling for people to take \"direct action\" against them all over Twitter throughout 2020..... All of those posts totally aren't still up today for anyone to see if they actually gave a shit enough to look back at it.....", "The entire point they’re making is not a single person in existence refers to someone as innocent outside of a courtroom unless they believe that the person is innocent. You don’t refer to those recently arrested as innocent unless you have evidence to suggest that they are in fact not guilty, even if legally they haven’t been declared guilty yet", "Yeah because not struggling with the police, and just sitting there and letting them cuff you, and then asking to see the warrant totally wouldn't have been the appropriate response for most normal people....... \n\nBlack people get put in handcuffs all day everyday without any incident at all, just like everybody of every other color does too..... \n\nOutside of extremely extremely rare circumstances, the only people that ever have any issues like that are the ones who fight back or struggle......\n\nStruggling is never going to suddenly win the fucking argument or fight with the cops and have them to stand up and say \"nevermind\"...... That is never ever ever ever going to work for anyone of any color, so why try it in the first place?\n\nEdit -- okay then...... just keep tensing up and struggling every time the police try to handcuff you...... I'm sure eventually one day they'll all be like \"oh crap! They tensed up and are struggling! Nevermind then.... everybody let go and back off and we'll just let them go and this is over now!\" I'm sure that will totally happen just like that.\n\nTo all the idiots messaging me, I never said a word about the cops being correct here or justified or righteous..... in fact I think the opposite of all that, which should be pretty obvious, but that doesn't change the fact that tensing up or struggling at all while being handcuffed is never ever going to end in the cops being more gentle or letting go of you and stopping all together..... The only thing you can do in that moment is let the arrest happen and handle your business afterwards if they are in the wrong....", "Lol people usually are once they've been defeated and handcuffed... I'm not saying the cops are in the right here, I'm just opining to your specific comment", "Democrats use YouTube videos to identify police and then track them down and attack them AND their families in the street, OR in their homes?\n\nBecause that's the only way to identify that someone is a police officer, obviously. From YouTube clips. They don't wear uniforms, have cars with \"Police\" written on them, work in a police based building with big signs outside. It's impossible unless you see their faces on YouTube clips.\n\nAnd it's \"democrats\" that do this? Riiiiight. I'm sure there are gangs of them prowling the streets. Just your average, normal democrat, looking for a copper to beat up before going off to do a communism.\n\nDon't do drugs kids.", "No, because that is how our society works. There are corrupt cops and there are good cops, and none of them are required to show you fucking paperwork before they handcuff you. 😂\n\nYou're simply an idiot if this is what you think your rights are, our society would fall apart in a heartbeat without police being able to do what they are there to do.", "You lost me at the race card. \n \nThe guy had a warrant on him and the cops called him saying the warrant was cleared so that they could get him to show up for an arrest.", "Dude had the same attitude and body language the entire time.\n\nTruly amazed at how he kept his cool throughout, and only pushed forward a bit after the paper got rubbed in his face.", "You're insane", "It's almost like somebody thought about this and devised a system to know exactly what's going on with any police interaction at any time.\n\nBad cops have \"malfunctioning\" body cams. Good cops know that their body cams will exonerate them from any complaints. EVERY cop should have a body cam on and recording for every interaction, no matter what, and any cop found later with a \"malfunctioned\" body cam should be punished appropriately.", "[ Jump to 09:50 @ Referenced Video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LsNBA2XwXU&t=0h9m50s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: NFL Films, Video Popularity: 95.62%, Video Length: [12:16])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@09:45](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LsNBA2XwXU&t=0h9m45s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^\| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)", "actually the cops did", "They would still have to look into it and detain him.", "Like the guy saying \"I'm not resisting\" and is actively resisting is telling the truth.", "Pretty sure they're required to inform you of what they're arresting you for.\n\nAlso, why bother being rude when communicating? What does it gain you?\n\nAre you not mature enough to have an adult conversation without falling into pettiness?", "True. But if they calmly explained that, he seemed like the person who would have been cool to go along with whatever.\n\nPolice seriously need to be trained in de-escalation instead of these dumb take down tactics.\n\nThey're just gonna get themselves and others hurt for no reason.", "There are very nice people who end up doing bad things and it's not a risk officers want to take.\n\nHave you seen that video where a mentally illed driver was given chance after chance to step out of his vehicle but struggled? Throughout the stop, you would think the driver was super innocent because he cooperated. He struggled for at least a minute to get out when asked to, went back in to reach for a gun, and shot both cops. There are many cases where officers give suspects chances to resist and die as a result.\n\nIf you ask me, the dude in the video didn't even get it that bad. There's been worst.", "He's claiming he's innocent on the warrant charge idjit. The prior conviction has nothing to do with it.", "When there is a warrant for your arrest police are required to show it to you prior to arrest if it is reasonable to do so.", "So your suggestion is guilty until proven innocent. Great. Dont think, just treat everyone as the lowest common denominator.\n\nAlso serial killers and rapists arent violent in the face of the public, they're bullies who are only violent when it's easy.\n\nKinda similar to how these cops are acting actually.", "Cherry picking events as the reason to act like this, isnt helping anyone.\n\nThis is a great example of why the police need to not be used in 90% of situations.\n\nThis should have been more like a social services office, where you got informed if you did not comply, the police would be sent to arrest you by force.\n\nI for one would happily comply vs possibly getting killed by militarized police.\n\nBut you seem to think we should draft policy based off the assumption everyone is mentally incompetent, and/or violent.", "How did rubbing the warrant in his face lower the risk to officers?", "You make it sound as if though certain cities have a system where they sort through people who aren't Democrats and get rid of them. Here's a news flash for everyone, all sorts of things happen all over the world every second. Saying: \n\n\n>Oh it definitely happens in some cities, but it's definitely not across the entire country\n\nAll you're doing is saying that grapes are green but not all the time. \n\n\n \nIndividualism isn't dead and never will be, so if you all ever get tired of this Democrat V/S Republican thing, you're more than welcome to come on back to society with the rest of the sane folk.", "I thought invoking only applies to spells…", "Yeah! I mean, it definitely can't be both since racism is over now. Police treat everyone equally!!", "You should be a cop! That's exactly the kinda mindlessness they're looking for!", "No reason to be immature and insulting. \n\nPerfectly fine to have opposing points, and discuss them.\n\nWhat do you hope to gain by being insulting?\n\nAnd yes, acting zen and calm should have had these officers acting the opposite of violent.\n\nAll they had to do was explain to him something along the lines of, \"yes, we see your point about the indictment being dropped, but until a judge quashes the warrant, we're responsible for following protocol.\"\n\nIs it so insane to treat people with respect?\n\nThe way things are going, we're going to eventually hit a point of overt hate and violence against the police, and then things will truly devolve into insanity.", "Thats's the thing, they cite the dangerous criminal threat to justify their actions, but I would bet the cops who actually have to deal with extremely dangerous criminals know the difference between a threat and a non-threat. Its the suburban wannabe soldiers who will empty a clip on a guy in a wheelchair or a man crawling across a hotel floor.", "what if it's a fake police guy?", "I DECLARE THE FIFTH AMENDMENT!", "I dont think racism is over but I do think police generally treat everyone poorly.\n\nMuch of the bias in these things isnt overt racism, but more of the tendency of humans to treat the unknown as a worst possible case.\n\nFor instance people crossing the street to avoid a man, arent racist or bigoted, but wary of what a unknown man could do to them.\n\nI was a single father for a time, and constantly got weird looks at the park, for being the only lone male there with kids. Everyone else was females with their kids, and couples. Made sense to me, and was somewhat upsetting, but didnt make me think they were anything but wary of the unknown.", "That's what I get too.\n\nYes, at any time a person can be violent. But that doesnt mean they get to treat every single person the same as the guy who violently resisted, got ahold of a gun, and shot an officer.\n\nIt sucks, but that's the job they signed up for.", "I see what has happened here, u/FactsLogicReason has trouble reading, which happens to the best of us. I'll do it line by line so you are forced to pause between words:\n\nInnocent\n\n&#x200B;\n\nuntil\n\n&#x200B;\n\nproven\n\n&#x200B;\n\nguilty\n\nIt is clear from your post that you have missred this as \"guilty until proven innocent\", if you slow down a little and read it again you will guffaw at your mistake!", "Good idea: Standing up for your civil rights in a court of law. \n \nBad idea: Standing up for your rights in the streets. \n \nSeriously. If a cop tells me to strip naked, smear grape jelly on my balls, and sing \"I'm a little jam boy\" you bet your ass I'm gonna sing with gusto, sue the fuck out of the department, and never have to work another day in my life. Why anyone would blow a potential pay day just to catch a resisting charge is beyond me.", "That's because it's a bot account and that's what it does.", "Read their comment history, it is nice that you are trying to see the good in them but this is how they conduct themselves all over the place. Confrontational, obtuse observations and a tendancy to regurgitate a thesaurus for every other word.", "2:40 for those waiting.", "Watch Ben Shapiro, it is amazing the stupidity you can cover up by using \"big words\".", "Innocent.... until.... proven.... guilty. Innocent.... until.... proven.... guilty. Innocent.... until.... proven.... guilty. Innocent.... until.... proven.... guilty. Innocent.... until.... proven.... guilty. Innocent.... until.... proven.... guilty. Innocent.... until.... proven.... guilty. Innocent.... until.... proven.... guilty.\n\nThere are no facts in this video that prove anything therefor the dude is innocent as he has not been proven guilty.", "No no, I've been reading this thread, fucktard is very apt here.", "This guy and Scrabble players, probably.", "Are you really comparing antivaxers to victims of racism?\n\nLike being equal?\n\nOne puts others lives at risk and obviously the other doesn't.", "Terrorist scum", "I always shake my head when I see people suggest cops should join the military or go through military training. In what way are cops and the army linked? Why would you ever want a soldier over a decent policeman?", "This is so fucked. There was literally no need for all that aggression from the cops. Just talk to him like a human being would.", "Isn’t that assault ?", "Pro-tip if you’re unsure if you have a warrant don’t take your ass anywhere near a police station.", "I'm comparing bigoted viewpoints, and treating people differently and generally with fear, due to thinking they're not like me.\n\nSupposed \"Anti-vaxxers\" as their referred to today arent putting anyone's lives at risk but maybe their own if their over 60.\n\nThe vaccine does not stop transmission of covid, it only reduces symptoms for the first few months.", "Because there are rules of engagement for military personnel and if you've gotten your fill of violence, you'll avoid creating it.\n\nIf you enjoy violence, it's likely to stand out, and you'll be put in a place on the police force where you arent utilized to de-escalate things.", "If the cops ever knock on your door, you best let them in without seeing a wartrant/any paperwork, or else you deserve whatever they do to you. /s", ">Pretty sure they're required to inform you of what they're arresting you for.\n\nBut not for simply putting you in handcuffs. There are so many myths surrounding what police are required to do. This sovereign citizen shit is for retards and anyone who does this is in for nothing but a quick face-to-face meeting with the ground, and actual charges if there was nothing to charge you for before.", "I plead da fiff!", "There is a significant difference between detainment and arresting.\n\nIf a person can undergo pre-trial confinement, they're not doing that because they've been found guilty, right?", "[ Jump to 02:40 @ Detective gets Suspended After Rubbing Warrant In Suspect's Face](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rdEX1iDSlk&t=0h2m40s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: Cleveland Area Body Camera, Video Popularity: 94.72%, Video Length: [06:58])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@02:35](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rdEX1iDSlk&t=0h2m35s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^\| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)", ">We wouldn't put our jobs in jeopardy\n\nLmao, a paid vacation while your department investigates itself and decides it did nothing wrong. Ya, jeopardy. Loser wouldn't last a week in a job that actually has accountability.", "There is no warrant. \nHere sir this is the warrant\nOk I'll come with you\n\nI always feel they want people to \"resist arrest\"", "You are absolutely correct. You actually don’t have to open your mouth at all. You always have the right to remain silent and that is generally the best thing you can do. Even according to previous Supreme Court justices.", "I would say your sentiment is correct. Many police departments will disqualify potential candidates due to being \"too intelligent\"", "All the reports in this comment chain are false positives, due to some particularly childish back and fourths. Perhaps worth looking in to.", "Those cops got exactly what they wanted.", "That is the stupidest thing I've ever read on Reddit.", "lol that's it? I didn't even find it scrolling to the video. I needed this timestamp.\n\nSo reddit wants the death penalty for him now? \n\n\"only one day. It's fucking gross\"\n\nThe hysterical screeching on reddit is unreal.", "Jesus, a person so insecure they pick your screen name picking circular battles is just the funniest thing. You are still stupid, but at least you are entertainingly stupid, sort of.", "Against All Authority", "Oh, this just gets funnier and funnier. Use bigger and bbigger words, r/iamverysmart", "Imagine if nurses pulled crap like this.", "Ya they literally lied to him in order to get him to show up", "The suspect would be beaten and served time for a&b on a cop if he touched any of them on the face like that", "Cut and dry case Johnson.", "It's a ward to fend off police long enough for the lawyer class to take the front.", "I do, so youre entire point is moot.", "You can't just say the fifth amendment and expect something to happen.\n\nApparently I need /s here, for those that might not realize it.", "They are probably a cop / part of a cop family", "Y'all responding to a troll account, basically an off-brand Ben Shapiro wannabe without the fame. That or it might be the actual Ben Shapiro, what with running out of most other options. This person not only knows their opinion is dumb as shit, their entire basis for attention relies on that.", "Guys, guys! The good news is, thanks to the state of policing and politics in the US, it can be BOTH!", "One two tree fo FIFF!", "Irrelevant. You don't rub shit in someones face like a schoolyard bully. It's unprofessional conduct and behavior unbecoming of an officer. Blaming the victim and claiming they deserve to be taunted like this by an adult is asinine at least and bordering on boot licking fascism.", "thanks I was skipping through the video so adamantly to find this", "This is a bot. It's just reposting a comment from YouTube", "How’s that boot taste, cuck?", "This is America", "Your cops are shit. Your cops are shit. \n\nWhere’s the mass outrage? Where’s the mass media reporting? Every day another video of your cops being shit. Seen anything in WaPo? NYTimes? LATimes? \n\nNope. Nothing there.", "Sincere question here- What rights was he standing up for? I’d like to know personally.\n\nThings that come to mind 1. They didn’t tell him why he was under arrest(is that a right? I would believe so, but I don’t know. It seems in this scenario there’s a chance he knew what this was about, he just didn’t want to go to jail. Jail doesn’t equal guilt. You can be innocent and be in jail unfortunately) 2. He wasn’t initially shown a warrant (I’m fairly certain this is not your right, an officer doesn’t have to show you a paper warrant for your arrest before taking you into custody)\n\nAside from that what rights was he standing up for in your opinion? I feel bad for this guy in the video, but also we have no context as to why the police wanted to bring him in. It feels incredibly manipulative and shitty how he was treated, but I’d like to know what rights were violated and how.", "Police treat MOST people poorly.\n\n+2 points on the brutality scale for being black or brown or generally any ethnicity (even if purely skin color isn't as much a factor) that they see as \"other\" than them.\n\n+1 point if you dress/look like a profilable person that isn't part of their demographic.\n\n+1 point if you're poor or look poor.\n\n-1 point if you appear wealthy or politically connected. They often think twice about messing with someone that may have the means to provide recourse to mistreatment. \n\n+1 point of you're outspokenly liberal or worse, leftist.\n\n+2 points if you assert your rights. They really hate that one.\n\n+2 points if you have any prior record. The Justice Business counts on repeat offenders, and they do everything they can to produce them. It is seen as the wound on a chicken that signifies all the other chickens to gang up on the one. They know they can much more easily mistreat someone they've put through the gauntlet once, especially because conservative dipshits will immediately dig for so much as a jaywalking when they were a teen to justify such actions. \n\nBut of course, if you're a known figure either personally or politically to them or their agency, you get the thin blue hall pass. Figuratively, but sometimes also literally. Here in NY, the troopers literally have cards they give to family and friends that is basically a dogwhistle \"I know The Don\" pass. Like an actual, physical card. I'd not believe this shit if I hadn't seen it with my own eyes, it's the closest thing to a real life mafia setup I've ever seen.", "Such an ironic username.", "Racial stuff aside, you’re an idiot to aggressively confront police on their turf", "Was he late for his bench warrent?", "Fairly well explained.\n\nThese numbers will change a bit depending on the officer and their past experiences, but overall seems correct.", "His warrant was invalid. His rights were violated. He was non violent. Fuck you 2(14)88 piece of shit", "No, I think they're saying that the logic of the cops is essentially \"we need to handcuff you, because you totally have a warrant, just trust us...\" Or at least that's how it come across to him because he's actively working on his case with a detective and according to the latest information he has, there is no warrant. I'm confident this would have played out much differently if they had shown him the warrant right away and said \"sir, we have a warrant for your arrest. We need to place you in custody\".", "US laws are beyond fucked up.", "I love how they expect him to just believe them, after they just lied to him to get him there. How is he supposed to know when they're telling the truth and when they're just fucking with him to manipulate him?\n\nHow is it even legal for cops to lie to suspects. Aren't you supposed to be able to trust a police officer? Most of us are not allowed to lie at our jobs, yet it is an integral part of the US JUSTICE system., upholding law and order by lying to people.", "He's clearly used to it.", "You're a fucking idiot. Across the country, not just the one on Jan 6. The only police that have been killed for political reasons in the last two years have come from the right. Boogaloos, self proclaimed nazis and trump stormers in that order.", "and/or expecting it.", "One of the clearest examples of power tripping I've ever seen. The fact that this is just another day at the office for these people is beyond fucked up. Go sort yourself out, US.", "I hate your username", "\"Show me the papers\"\n\n\"Well show them to you in a minute\" \n\nThat's such a dangerous argument like shit the paper they have could be blank if they just want to throw people in cuffs before telling them why. \n\nBut hey cops just doing what cops do.", "If he actually had a warrant then I’m not on his side.", "Yup they specifically are looking for people who will follow orders without question if you show your too intelligent and can critically think through some of these situations they don't let you on the force. Can't have a cop who's not with the program.", "Hey, grocery store worker, if you asked me for the weeks ad, and i shoved it in your face, i would be FIRED. I would love to hear your argument for why police should be held to a lower standard than grocery store workers, because from where im standing, it makes the police look less like heros and more like overemotional children with guns.\n\nWhile youre at it i would also love to hear your reasoning on how wanting police to be accountable for, you know, breaking the law they are supposed to enforce, is bad.\n\nThe fascist screeching on reddit today, sheesh.", "Did they make him write that he wouldn't do it again a hundred times on the chalkboard too?", "How can you say that but post insufferable comments yourself so often. Most of your comments end up in arguments and being downvoted. \n\nI even thought you were racist and hated muslims judging by your own comments and responses, only to then read you're a muslim yourself.\n\nFind a way to be positive man.. find a way to get help, your country offers plenty of it", "Salinas v. Texas in the Supreme Court\n\nPeople v. Tom in California Supreme Court\n\nIt's precedent I believe unless the article I read misinterpreted the ruling. Either way I would highly recommend anyone to announce that you are invoking your 5th amendment rights and right to counsel. This way there is no speculation on whether you were utilizing your rights.", "So the guy had a warrant for his arrest but they tricked him into coming in? Sure that's sneaky but havent police done things like that before, by informing people they have won something, only for them to turn up and get arrested?\n\nThat aside, if you are in a police station and you are asked to put your hands behind your back so they can cuff you, why wouldn't you do it and sort it out later... Has there ever been a reported case of someone refusing to be cuffed and the police back down and let them go? \n\nSimilar to how some ppl get belligerent on airplanes when told they need to get off.... There is only 1 logical outcome...they get dragged off. There's no negotiating under these circumstances.\n\nThat being said, they should have shown him the warrant at the start, and there was no need to rub it in his face.", "After watching the video I’m ok with them forcing it down the throat of this dirtbag", "He’s a troll", "\"We wouldn't lie to you...\"", "The KoolAid is flowing. Democrat Antifafa are aiming to help invade anytime and anywhere. Remember FORKS[great forks antifafa](https://www.wired.com/story/antifa-social-media-rumor-forks-washington/), Wa?", "Putting a piece of paper in a belligerent suspect's face for literally one second does not merit such outrage.", "Exemplary deescalation technique guys well done", "Dude, the guy you are arguing with believes that our world leaders are in secret contact with alien civilisations and was posting last week about how Alex Jones is mostly right with his theories. I don't think there is much point taking this argument any further.", "I'm going to clean up this town, one face at a time.", "[Come edit my document :)](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1x--xLQW69dxLYPrpL-HZwq18RRSz4PwCBwzJTFom5bQ/edit)", "Ah yes. American police. De-escalation? What's that?", "Police can’t use what they don’t have.", "I’m really bothered by how this comment is so right and has so many downvotes. Meanwhile some blond white dude is responding explaining how “it’s not racism” like he’s an expert. Oof, reddit. This ain’t it", "NYC loves suspects more than cops", "Rubbing a paper in someone's face is assault. My friend got assault on a police officer for throwing his sunglasses and hitting a cops shoe.", "Nice 3 day weekend, I bet.", "Those boots are already sparkling, you don’t need to lick them more", "You think these things are even remotely similar? You look like a naïve fool.", "The edit where you call out people for jumping to conclusions is even more ironic than your username.", "Waiting for you to do the same, the line's getting long so get a move on!", "Sure, can you provide any actual examples of this happening.", "It's a brand new account, they're just trying to troll. They're not even clever about it.", "Of course, if he were rich and white they would have politely asked him to turn himself in whenever it's convenient within the next month or two.", "Fuck cops.", "It's a choice bro. A really dumb one. Hardly comparable.", "You've got everything ass-backwards.\n\nLegally speaking, a person is innocent until proven guilty - and the burden of proof is on those who think he is guilty. The accused does not need to prove their innocence - they are innocent by default. Nobody is ever proven \"factually innocent\" - that's why they use the terms \"guilty\" or \"not guilty\".\n\nFor example, if a bank is robbed then there is no doubt that a crime has been committed, because money has definitely been stolen. If the police find a suspect and arrest them, then it's on the prosecutors to show evidence that it was definitely them that robbed the bank.\n\nIf they have the right person that should be easy - they could find CCTV footage, phone location records, eye witness testimony, alibi witnesses or lack thereof, even DNA evidence that put the accused at the scene at the time of the crime - or quite simply a large bag of marked bills in the suspect's possession.\n\nBut if they have the wrong person it could be impossible to find evidence that they didn't do it. I mean if you were arrested for robbing a bank yesterday, but you knew you didn't do it because you spend all day on the sofa watching TV, how would you prove that? If you were alone you wouldn't have an alibi, which would just look suspicious if anything. It's very hard to prove a negative - and that's why the legal system assumes innocent until proven guilty.\n\nSo TL;DR - proof is needed for guilt, not for innocence. And yet here you are screaming at everyone to provide \"proof\" of his innocence. Where's your proof that he's guilty? We don't know anything other than this man was served with a warrant - what are the details of his situation that make him guilty that you know that we don't? It's on you to tell us, not the other way round.", "You have the right to resist unlawful arrest, the reason you go along with it isn't because they have a right to arrest you or that you have no right to haggle.\n\n It's because it's not a battle you're going to win at that moment and someone will probably end up dead. It's something you will have to fight later when you sue them.\n\nThat said 99% of arrests are not unlawful and neither was this one.", "We wouldn't lie to you.\n\nWell, that was a lie.", "They're not humans, they're cops. Thus they are unable to communicate like human beings. Do you get angry when a pigeon doesn't communicate with you properly? No? Then why get upset when pigs fail to?", "[“Your face…is my warrant.”](https://youtu.be/uTkxuudy8yw?t=31s)", "They are trained to be evil. Literally.", "Great article, but so depressing. \n\nThat's insane. Scary, sad and insane.", "Well that takes the cake for stupidity.", "I mean even if there was a rule it would be constantly broken but no being able to lie in order to actually catch someone dangerous is a good thing. These guys are just assholes.", "Yes but he was resisting so of course they want to go to the maximum allowable use of force, just like always", "You do realize that was covered like a dozen times here?", "Someone didnt watch the video...", "Demonstrably it makes me more articulate than you.", "Oh good, somebody has sent in the clowns.", "How about asking 'He's guilty? Based on what facts?' A warrant and or arrest don't prove guilt. Based on the video there is nothing to prove he's guilty. You're mindset is backwards here. You have a presumption of guilt.", "I just assumed it was a new account because their old one got banned. Seems the sort.", "Ironically you read not any of posts in full. Try again.", "I was not asking about facts in this video. Again read the comments!", "As a European, the question I always have is, is stuff like this happening where I am from too. I mean you see an occasional news article about police violence or abuse here and there. But the US just seems to take the cake in these types of issues. The only time I've felt insecure meeting a police officer on the road was in the US. I've never had that same feeling of a threat of violence in Europe... I'm sure race plays some role in my experience with the police.. but still", "But I mean, you didn’t comply, so the rest I can’t sympathize with", "If he were rich and white he would never have to talk to a cop. His lawyer would make all arrangements", "Dude was being a fuckwad and deserved that rub in the face lol. Glad it was just a 1 day suspension.", "Yea, seems that most cops get off on taking people into custody and dominating them. They get so excited when they get to do it, especially if it's a premeditated arrest. Probably why a lot of cops become cops, because they love having authority over people.", ">\"they may have crimes that are answered by a return to jail as in the case of some warrants.\"\n\nWhat part of the English language eludes you in understanding \"innocent until proven guilty\"?\n\nEven you used the word \"may\" in that sentence. \"They may have crimes.\" Okay, so what makes you think they do? Where's your proof?\n\nIf a person has committed a crime, they're guilty. If person hasn't committed a crime, they're innocent. If a person might have committed a crime, then they are also innocent unless you can prove otherwise.\n\n&#x200B;\n\n>How about \"tried in abstentia and found guilty prior?\" \n\nWhat about it? Even a trial in absentia assumes innocent until proven guilty. And \"found guilty prior\" simply means someone was found guilty at a prior trial - it doesn't mean they were assumed guilty prior to trial.\n\nLol @ you telling people they have crackerjack law degrees when a) you don't need a law degree to understand \"innocent until proven guilty\", which is a fundamental principle of the legal system and no law degree is going to tell you otherwise, and b) you're just spouting legal terms as if they prove your point when you clearly have no idea what they mean.", "Soldiers are WAY better trained than police on use of force. But I think the issue isn't solely training but also selecting. Assholes want to become police, while the military is a more general representation of society.", "Well you have lots to share here that is somehow more intelligent?", "Your job probably isn't comparable in any way, though.", "Two times in a decade is actually a very low rate.", "How would you behave if you thought you were going to the police station just to clear things up and the cops decide to arrest you without explanation. I'm sure you would remain perfect calm and cooperative", "I dont think you understand that the burden of proof lies with the accuser, not anyone presuming his innocence. Which should, literally, be everyone except the accusers. The implicit assumption of innocence is so much more important than you are giving it credit for and your dismissal of assumed innocence vs actual innocence is short sighted and ignorant.", "Are you too timid to engage directly? For that it’s worth, I hate the right wing Ben Shapiro.", "Oh damn, he said syllogism. He must have been right about the whole \"guilty until proven innocent\" thing. He's just changed the entire legal system!\n\n/s, in case it wasn't obvious.", "Then the cop adds a public indecency charge", "Could be.", "You hella dumb.", "Who here is supporting the cops actions? Not me, he would have been fired and charged with assault if justice was served.", "Well sometimes the internet takes a few day “It’s not gunna do that”", "Such a mature retort", "The burden of proof for a person's guilt is on the accuser, not the accused. Everyone should refer to a person as innocent if they are found innocent. Public opinion is a pretty weak side to take in this discussion.", "You tell me.", "Well it pays out here evidently over and over.", "My point is what you are saying means nothing cuz it isn't possible to in the current situation.", "The worst part of this video for me was when the cop said, \"You made this worse because you couldn't control yourself.\" As if the suspect came at them swinging or something. He literally just asked to see the warrant and they threw him to the ground.", "Attempts at humorous quips over substance? Try again.", "If someone did that to a cop he'd be charged with felony battery on a law enforcement officer and the cop would probably beat him in 'self defense'", "Nope but better to do it there than at the guys home. Where he may barricade himself have weapons who knows. Shoot he may have weapons there, because the love to most stations isn't controlled from my experience. Fed aren't going after someone that's shop lifting or committing some misd thefts generally speaking either.", "Truly, fuck the police.", "Detective Short…", "Well if you cared to read you would have noticed that has been covered and is not part of my point.", "Sounds like that isnt what they signed up for, thats just the basic standards we expect.", "If you cared to read my post, I was asking what facts the OP had to his actual innocence not this presumed legal innocence.", "You need to read over your contradictions and try again.", "Not resisting =/= cooperating. \n\nThere is an in-between state. But cops think anything other than servile complaince is resisting.", "Generally cops like to have someone in handcuffs before this. You're right they could have shown him the warrant and they could have handled things that way. But do you know how easy it is to get a warrant quashed on your own in most places? You set up a court date, and you literally go to the jurisdictions courthouse. This guy only appeared because he thought he was getting his stuff back, that's it. You're right, they could have shown him the warrant sooner, but he clearly wasn't willing to go with the program.", "I don’t honk you know how to read what I actually said. I specifically am not addressing his implicit innocence. But rather his actual innocence.", "Do you know what a hypothetical is?", "hi, im the original poster of this video, the city of cleveland uses a public records loophole that allows them to blur all officer's face. The law states that the an officer who COULD serve an undercover capacity can have their face redacted. oddly enough its cleveland's policy to have all officers possibly serve an undercover capacity", "Did I miss the part where he rubbed the actual paper in the guys face? I can't find it", "there's very little in your original comment that would lead us to believe you would take those actions. The comment we are responding is decrying the injustice of blurring everyone's identity except the victim. Your first reaction was to question if he was innocent or not, leading us to conclude if the answer was guilty, he deserves to be doxxed. While thats not explicitly what you said, everyone filled in the blanks you left.", "\"We wouldn't lie to you... we wouldn't put our jobs in jeopardy\".\n\nLol.", "It's different for other people. Sometimes cops will politely call you and schedule a good time next week for you to come in when convenient. Gives you time to talk to you lawyer and get your story straight. Even when you come in they drag their feet on the investigation. Of course this all depends on certain factors if you know what I mean. \n\nIf someone does not get the hint these assholes are racists. It really does matter if your white. Bonus points if your rich and white.", "No they shouldn't. Why should someone have be arrested bc cops couldn't take\nthe most basic steps to confirm that a warrant was valid. If the police had no\nincentive to verify that their paperwork was correct they could just snatch up\nanybody off the street and say afterwards \"oopsie daisy, there was a 'mistake' on\nthis warrant. don't blame me\"", "> Maybe if we sent police officers into the military for a few years they'd be trained better\n\nWhy are American police like this? No other first world nation requires the police to join the military beforehand, so echoing OP's comment, is there something in the water?", "What is your point then?\n\nBecause I read everything and you don't seem to have a point, you just seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding about how any of this works.\n\nAll you're doing is asking for proof that he is innocent, which isn't necessary, without offering any proof that he is guilty, which you need to provide if you want to call him guilty.", "The warrant in the face was bullshit, and I'm glad the guy is suspended. He didn't hold his hands above his head because he was trying to keep them from cuffing him. If he was confident that he had no warrant he should have been like naw put those cuffs on and call detective blank blank. Getting rid of a warrant is so damn easy to take care of to the point that most courthouses literally tell their staff not to arrest someone coming into clear it. You set a court date show up and you generally get released unless you messed up massively. This guy had a fed warrant and youre right they should be making reviews on this detective regularly now. He acted out of line, but according to how they were trained they needed him in cuffs before they were going to talk. The training should change, but the thing about arrest is that someone can be the nicest person to talk to and as soon as you try to cuff them [Even to just detain] they can just loose it.", "Yeah not sure if the detective told him not to say anything about the warrant eight away or not... but not sure why they didn't. It could be old training or something.", "Here's the thing, even if both were equally stupid (doubt but fine) the officer still has a higher standard of behavior to adhere to. A one day suspension is a light slap on the wrist", "Never voluntarily be around cops without a lawyer.", "Wrong, I was only looking to find out if the accused was in-fact innocent. That would be a different narrative over being tricked, arrested and assaulted.", "The time to fight is in court with a lawyer, not with the cops trying to handcuff you. Comply, be polite, then sue the city.", "Cops are also allowed to detain you and arrest you BEFORE charging you with a crime.\n\nIt is a gross misunderstanding of the law to think that you do not have to comply with their orders until you personally read the warrant.", "If vaccines don't really help then why do low vaccination areas have such high infection rates compared to high vaccination areas having lower infection rates?", "Which is fucking disgusting.", "I never assumed he was guilty now did I? I was looking for the OPs facts of his innocence. What is fundamentally wrong with asking if someone was ultimately found innocent? Do you like the idea of him being found guilty? Is that your take?", "Suspect is an asshole and a total piece of shit. Too bad he was suspended from living in public for the next 20\nYears.", "Where do these unpaid police work?", "Which contradictions?", "I guess I don't understand why they didn't just approach it differently and treat him like a human and let him read/show the warrant, then he could make the adult decision to choose to be an ass if he wanted. Instead, they just went straight into arrest mode and made him turn defiant. Just so much wrong here from a civil servants point of view they could just drastically change and alter every interaction.", "I could he wrong... But it certainly FEELS like it's a semi-authoritarian power grab. The classic \"I'm in charge here. You're going to do this because I said so. How dare you question my authority.\"\n\nThat very well might not be the case, but that's the sense I get from watching this.", "But you are using a hypothetical to defend a completely different situation", "“Im not resisting”…actually you are. I know police violence is underreported but cmon dude, you can’t stiffen your body and refuse to put your hands behind your back and say “im not resisting”", "As I clearly stated that tried in absentia and found guilty, the presumed innocence would be a moot point. To rehash the analogy reflects a contradiction, or a gross lack of understanding that the innocence is removed when found guilty in absentia.", "I understand that you are not addressing addressing his implicit innocence. But you reasoning about actual vs implicit is flawed and you don't see that.", "Slimy pig shit eh. Not surprised even a little.", "GPO for city of cleveland requires arrestees to be in cuffs", "C'mon guys they have the 22nd most dangerous job in the United States. They always need to be ready for any threat that one guy with his hands up can pose to 4 well armed, trained professionals.", "The description says without.", "thatll show him", "I had and still have no idea as to the actual innocence of this man nor his back story prior to this few min video. The examples are all highlighted to show we don’t know the backstory and need more information. Hence the original question: is there facts proving his actual innocence? The video tells us nothing of the ensuing court case and state of the charges.", "Fuck pussy ass cops.", "Dude you a moron.", "Mad respect to how much restraint he held...seriously..", "My god. You make no fucking sense.", "Isn’t that a cowinkydink", "Preach on.", "> The U.S. Department of Justice Bureau of Justice Statistics reports that, as of 2013, there were more than 29,000 unpaid reserve (auxiliary) officers in the United States, and about 32% of local police departments had a reserve officer program.[19] Larger cities are generally more likely to have a reserve program than smaller cities; 62% of police departments that patrol areas with a population of over 1 million have a police reserve program, while only 26% of the smallest departments (serving areas with a population lower than 2,500) do.", "And you have no value to this conversation. Move along.", "That’s not true. If you don’t specifically invoke the 5th amendment, then your silence can be referenced in court as suspicious activity. You can read more about it by looking up Salinas v. Texas. \n\nI’m not a lawyer, and my knowledge of law is basic. Any claim I make is based on my limited understanding of the case law.", "No no your getting real live confused with HBO shows again .\n\nThat's watch men. And I think a bit of game of thrones...", ">I was looking for the OPs facts of his innocence. What is fundamentally wrong with asking if someone was ultimately found innocent?\n\nSee, there's your fundamental misunderstanding - and proof that you haven't read or understood anything that I've written so far.\n\nNobody is found innocent. That's why trials end with verdicts of guilty or not-guilty.\n\nNot-guilty is not the same as innocent. That's an important distinction, and it's because finding \"facts of innocence\" is incredibly difficult, if not actually impossible. That's why innocence is assumed until guilt is proven, and that's why OP has no need to provide any facts of innocence to call this suspect an innocent man.", "The United States is a massive country with 50 different states, inside of those are counties, some of which are so large they dwarf countries around the world both in population and size. Each of those have state, county and local police, and millions of people. Safe to say, there is no simple “US, sort yourself out”, so politely fuck off and let us enjoy our mess.", "Boot licking pussy", "As a person that is generally pro police, this really pisses me off. When a person willfully comes to the precinct, knowing they could be taken into custody, they should be treated with the respect they deserve for manning up and walking into the lion's den. This could've been so much easier- \"sir, please take a seat, we believe that you have a warrant. But before we take you into custody, we're going to get it in-hand\". The use of force was totally unfounded and the initiating officer needs reevaluation for mental fitness, retraining on due process and deescalation, and counseling to decompress. If these measures fail to take- let him go.", "Maybe the cops should be obliged to act a little mature:) but all you care about is the one person you people love to HYPER fixate one. Way to completely miss the point, dip shit.", "\|The vaccine does not stop transmission of covid, it only reduces symptoms for the first few months.\n\nYou don't have an understanding of how the vaccine works. You are confusing the existence of anecdotal breakthroughs with vaccine as proof that they generally don't work. You likely don't have the capability to understand what follows but it needs to be said in the hope that someone with a more open mind can grasp this.\n\nThe vaccine significantly reduces the risk of transmission. Most importantly, and this was not a part of the plan for the vaccine, it dramatically reduces the risk that a patient will need to go to hospital when they contract Covid. This further means, that the patient will likely live and with minimal permanent damage from Covid.\n\n\"Reducing risk of transmission\" is merely about probabilities. There is a metric called transmittability. If this metric is above 1, then it means the virus is spreading faster than it is being contained. If it is below 1, then it is being contained and will eventually die out in a population. \n\nThe vaccine helps keep the transmittability to dramatically below 1. It does not magically reduce it to zero -- which appears to be the main point of anti-vaxxers. The vaccine is not (yet) a silver bullet but it works on the most pernicious aspect of the virus's spread. Much like a seat belt in the event if a car crash. There is no guarantee that everyone wearing a seat belt survives a car crash, but they are much more likely to walk away alive.", "As I clearly stated, the accused is still presumed innocent when they are tried in absentia.\n\nOf course if they are found guilty in such a trial then the innocence would be removed - I didn't say that, I don't disagree with that, so there is no contradiction in what I said.\n\n\"Tried in absentia and found guilty prior\" is something someone would say after a trial - like at a sentencing hearing or a second trial. It basically means \"We had a trial without them and they were found guilty at the end of that trial.\" It doesn't mean \"They were found (or assumed) guilty prior to the trial we had without them,\" which is how you were using it in your argument.", "It would be easier to support the police if this shit didn’t seem to happen constantly. Plus I don’t know of any other profession where people expect as a matter of course to never be held accountable for any of their actions.", "Suspended... This guy need to be let go without pay. Why is it so hard to hold people working \"for the people\" to a higher standard.", "From the GPO of the City of Cleveland:\n\nI. Restraint\n\nA. Members shall handcuff all arrestees. Exceptions may be made for juveniles under ten, the elderly, and persons with disabilities. \nB. Members may use discretion in handcuffing persons taken into custody based solely upon mental health issues. \nC. When handcuffing, members shall double-lock handcuffs to prevent tightening unless extraordinary circumstances prevent the double-locking of handcuffs. \nD. Members shall use only the amount of force or restraint necessary to control a non-compliant and/or violent arrestee.", "'Actual Innocence' is irrelevant in such a legal context. In criminal law and police activities, innocence is governed by the law. 'Actual innocence' is more suited for a discussion on philosophy or morality.", "Look, I have been getting slack here for being too pedantic and when I converse in a more simplistic manner, others give me slack. You understand the concepts so read them for what they represent. In-fact being found innocent is the product of the legal not guilty verdict. Much like when you might find out your tumour is non malignant and you claim to be “healthy”. If you care to talk about the intentions of the posts that is fine, to play the semantics card is a waste of my time… I’m not interested.", "That's limited to that city/state though right? Theoretically if I had pictures of cops from Cleveland I could just set up a website in a different state that has all the pictures of cops in that city?", "won't happen. Most of us still have 'faith' in our particular police officers.", "Disgusting behavior, as always. A civil conversation would've cleared this situation up but we can't have that. There has to be an immediate escalation to violent behavior and then the cliche \"resisting arrest\". I'll never understand the concept of thinking that humans being treated extremely aggressively won't respond in kind to some extent.", "The unions don't allow anything. That is like saying the police allow their own behavior to continue, the police union is just a bunch of police. \n\nIt's up to our local and state governments to ensure cops are held to higher standards.", "the entire point is the context in which it is said. when you say that a suspect is innocent, you're saying that you believe that they are not guilty of whatever theyre suspected of. You say that they should be called innocent if found innocent, but the entire point of the discussion is that they havent been found innocent at all, and are currently in police custody.", "As I provided a precursor of found “guilty” in absentia, for you to bring up “innocent until proven guilty” is a backward and moot! Who cares about the presumption of innocence after the fact of someone being found guilty of a charge? We have temporally left that arena.", "yes you missed it. @2:38", "Agreed! As I was asking about the “facts” I was implying the epistemological and philosophical state. You supported my original posts intent.", "I must say they did a very good job at defusing the situation 👍 sarcasm", "“We wouldn’t lie to you”\n\nThat’s like half of their technique.", "What converstion? You don't even know how put logic together? I loved the comment saying your username needed to change", "\"bluff\" yeah okay buddy", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51t1OsPSdBc", "Again, a vapid say nothing.", "To think, if I printed out an email someone sent me and literally rubbed it in their face I'd have been fired on the spot.", "I can completely believe this happened in Cleveland. Stupidest justice system I ever worked in. From the cops to the appeals court everyone's a complete moron, and they all think they're geniuses too.", "Reeeeeeeeeeee!", "If you're unhappy with the way the police work, you could always join the police and be the change you want to see. Or you can whine about it online. Your choice.", "Because clearly these officers are so concerned with the rules, lol.", "haha take my upvote citizen!", "Yeah idk what country you are talking about. Its up to the prosecutor to prove GUILT, not the other way around. You should be asking \"What facts indicate he is guilty\". In my country (US) we should not, by law, be considered guilty before a trial. It is the purpose of a trial to determine guilt, not a cop or detective.", "This country was founded around the rejection of laws we as a people disagreed with. Ideologically we spout nonsense about how important asserting our rights are - know your rights, protect your second amendment etc\n\nAnd yet we see countless examples of violent escalation for non-violence especially against black people and excuse it with “he should have gone willingly” as if that’s enough reason. Why did the cops need to restrain him like that? Couldn’t they have simply, calmly explained the situation? The guy arrested was calm and reasonable the whole time", "It's very uncomfortable to some people that the police could be that cruel without reason.\n\nIf it were the case, our current police force's conduct would be unacceptable wouldn't it? We should all be protesting and fighting it or else we're allowing it to happen right?\n\nWell I don't want to feel like I have to do something, if it's too much work to change it's easier to deny it.\n\nI realize work needs doing, but if I fully admit that, then I have to actually do the work so I might just come up with excuses or justifications instead of straight denial.", "I hope they don't charge this guy with resisting arrest.", "I can nearly guarantee that 9 times out of 10 if I, as a white male adult, had showed up in that police station in the same situation, those officers wouldn't have put me in handcuffs before taking the time to discuss the warrant situation with me. Black males are statistically forced to subdue/comply more often and earlier in police interactions than white males.", "My post is not addressing his legally afforded innocence but rather if he is factually innocent. Was he admonished of the changes in this video? It is not a complex question but has been jumped on by people just wanting to argue and make something out of a simple question. Do you not care about the actual conclusion or back story of an accused? I do.", "I think we would all like the opportunity assume your guilt...", "Why are they showing the guys face but none of the detectives?", "he was calm up until the point he resisted being placed under arrest...you can't resist like that unless you just want more charges. If you feel you've been wronged then you deal with it in court like you're supposed to.", "Right they need to readjust the tactic here... unless the detective said not to say what the arrest is for. I don't know, and often times warrant are called in then they confirmed. So he is detained then arrested.", "> Why is American police so disgusting ?\n\nIt's a combination of selection bias and confirmation bias.\n\nSelection bias in the sense that, out of the thousands of public interactions that occur each day, any that are bad are selected out for your viewing pleasure. What reddit is doing to you (yes, you) is no different than what 4chan does to racists. 4chan posts every video of a black person committing a crime, yet you would never dream of saying, \"why is [sic] american blacks so disgusting ?\"\n\nConfirmation bias in the sense that, if I show you a video that confirms your existing perception, you're more likely to remember it than if I show you one that contradicts it.\n\nLook, here's the solution (or at least, a step in that direction) - and I've posted this many times before but it never seems to get any traction: there needs to be a professional licensing organization for police officers, just like we have the medical board for doctors, or the bar for lawyers.\n\nIn order to work in any law enforcement capacity, be it a desk job or a security guard, you would be required to be in good standing with that organization.\n\nSo in a situation like this, the police investigated the police and determined that the police did nothing wrong. And yeah okay, maybe the cop didn't break any laws. But what he did is an ethical violation, so he should have his license revoked. Just like how [what this lawyer did isn't technically illegal](https://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/2021/07/01/brevard-attorney-disbarred-another-reprimanded/7829844002/) but it is unethical, so he was disbarred.", "Well that will also be case dismissed. So personaly if I were to be arrested for a crime I committed ( no idea here). I'd love a warrant rubbed in my face from an investigating detective.", "I’d never be a dirty fuckin pig.\n\nI’d rather see the whole department cleaned out. Stricter rules and policies put in place.", "No, that would be an actual punishment.", "not controlling himself by tensing up and resisting the act of being placed under arrest...a person's hands can be placed behind their back with the utmost of ease, it takes a considerable amount of force to stop multiple grown men from putting a suspect's arms behind their back...thus resisting arrest this shit isn't calculus", "In my experience, the only people who have less respect than cops for the dignity of their fellow human beings are corrections officers.", "Oh my god, stfu, you are incredibly ignorant if you think racism still doesnt exist now in days. God, im such of peopel like you", "She should be fireding squad", "Let me guess, you are always right and everyone else is always wrong? People are always just so much more dumb than you little shapiro?", "That makes little sense.", "Dude what the hell are you typing? You sure you didn’t have any meth?", "Let me guess, you can only resort to name calling over civil discourse? Perhaps you have some actual contribution otherwise?", "bad take is bad, law enforcement officers are murder horny violent psychopaths and if you haven't figured that out yet you've had your head in the sand for too long.", "My girlfriend asked me to bring her expired medication to dispose of to the police station. \n\nI said, “You want me to bring prescription medications that don’t have my name on them to the police station where they can immediately arrest me for being in possession of prescription medications that are not mine?”\n\nNo thanks.", "He says \"what's wrong with you\" about the paper thing after causing that whole scene, what a dummy.", "> electrocute \n\nI dont think you know what that word means", "Youve already been proven wrong 100x, and are downvoted into oblivion. Its ok little shapiro, you can go back to arguing about christianity now", "Shouldn't have even gotten suspended at all for that.", "In a developed nation, yes. If there is a legit warrant, they could have just shown him and asked him to come to the back, no handcuffs necessary. Even if there is a misunderstanding, they could have just asked him to help clear it up.\nBut why talk to someone like a human being to deescalate and work things out when you can have 4-5 military wannabe testosterone pumped cosplayers tackle and beat up on the person they are sworn to serve?", "He didn't deserve to be punished. Mr resisting arrest did though.", "Again, valueless.", "You used \"tried in absentia and found guilty prior\" as a reason that someone would not be presumed innocent. All \"in absentia\" means is absent, i.e. the defendant was not physically present at the trial. Otherwise it's the same as any other trial - they don't lose the presumption of innocence just because they're not present.\n\nIf someone was found guilty at any trial - in absentia or not - then, no, I would no longer assume they were innocent of those crimes.\n\nSo if the man in this video had been convicted, escaped somehow, and these police officers were re-arresting him to send him back to prison, then absolutely, I would assume he was guilty, because that was the finding of his trial.\n\nBut the fact that they have a warrant says that this is a new arrest for a new crime, so even if he was \"tried in absentia and found guilty prior\" that would have been for something else. We still have to assume he's innocent until proven guilty of this new crime - even if he's an habitual offender he doesn't lose that right.", "\"We wouldn't put our jobs in jeopardy.\"\n\nThat didn't age well.", "Mmmmmm lemme lick them boots daddy yes mmmmm so good mr police man", "Considering police have killed thousands of people with tasers, electrocution is not off the table.", "And cops seriously wonder why society despises them? It’s a giant joke really", "What do you expect from the mastermind of the Galactic Empire?!", "Move on past the hang up of innocent until proven guilty in the context of tried and found guilty in absentia as that is a straw man of my point. That was only to illustrate a legally guilty status as apposed to this situation. I am not disputing the right of being assumed innocent PRIOR to being cleared or found guilty. \n\nYou are dwelling in the non argument.", "i mean, anyone can post videos of cops. Just when requesting videos via public records request, the city blurs their face, not me.", "My friend was arrested in front of all his friends and family a few years ago.\n\nBogus warrant where his wife's ex-boyfriend alleged assault like 3 years prior. Charges were never even filed, just a warrant issued, but Dallas County never updated the warrant and it remained active for 3 years. \n\nA city cop just happened to run his plate when he was stopped in a parking lot, and proceeds to arrest him. He spent the night in jail, was released the next day, and not a single god damn apology was given by the DA who failed to release the warrant, the Officer who treated him like a dangerous criminal in front of his family, or the judge who attempted to hold him in contempt when he tried to stand up for himself the next morning.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nFuck the pigs.", "Uh, all of these states are fucked pretty much equally when it comes to cops.\n\nIt's absolutely a shitty American problem. Sorta like mass school shootings.", "Can someone please tell me why it's so hard for cops to treat someone with an ounce of respect?", "he was black.....what else you need to know. \n\nI have literally smoked marijuana in front of the police on company property. I should have been arrested and fired from my job...\n\nWhat happened? I got to call my boss, nothing was mentioned about the marijuana, just the cop wanted to verify I was actually allowed to be there after hours... A quick \"get the fuck outta here\" and I was locking up the gates and heading the fuck out... They didn't even take my fucking weed! \n\nThis guy gets assualted over a bogus warrant that would have taken 2 minutes to verify. Instead they are holding an outdated piece of paper.....and use that as a pretext to assault this man. Fuck the pigs....", "Noone does these days", "\"If you didn't have a warrant... even if you didn't, you made it worse already as it is 'cause you didn't control yourself\".\n\nFuck no man, if he didn't have a warrant, which shouldn't be a rhetorical situation to be discussed since they INSISTED he has a warrant, they performed an unlawful arrest which he, for good reason, contested.", "There is a famous quote from Chief Justice Robert Jackson of the Supreme Court who said, ““Any lawyer worth his salt will tell [a] suspect in no uncertain terms to make no statement to police under any circumstances.”\n\nAnd here’s a Harvard law professor who advises the same: https://youtu.be/d-7o9xYp7eE\n\nAnd just recently in the rittenhouse case, the judge chastised the prosecutor for insinuating that he was guilty for his silence as it was nearly a violation of his rights.", "Why are you disposing of it at the police station?", "What? I think you went on a tangent in this thread.", "Itt absolutely fucking disgusting that you need to invoke your right to a lawyer or to silence. Foul beyond measure, and purely just a way of continuing the oppression of the lower classes.", "To protect and serv... whatever", "In the context of this video, none of the (cop's) actions seem to be driven out of racisms. Sure the officers manhandle him and are rude.\n\nNo one is saying that racism doesn't exist or that some cops aren't racist.", "Why did you blurred them?", "Police who don’t do simple things to get compliance because they have such an authority complex will never cease to amaze me. They had the warrant in writing. The first thing I would have done is to just show him the warrant and let him read it. Why wouldn’t you? The worst that will happen is that he will resist anyway, but at least you can start from a place where you’re all on the same page. He might have just relented and done everything they said without the need for force. God forbid you meet someone half way though, you’re a police officer and your authority must be respected!", "What do you call running an electrical current through someone's nerves if not electrocuted lol", "You're not wrong, but I would argue this is a problem that exceeds state lines and is somewhat particular to the US among western countries. I believe a solution for this would originate from a federal level.", "So you're unhappy with the status quo but unwilling to make the smallest amount of personal sacrifice to improve it.\n\nFair enough.", "Probably paid one day suspension. Aka mental health day", "Yes, yes it is", "The presumption of innocence is not the same as being innocent. Saying he's an \"INNOCENT MAN\" is an attempt to completely mischaracterize the situation. Just say they didn't blur the suspect's face and leave it at that. It's still a weird double standard and that can be recognized without painting him as a victim. He may or may not be innocent and having a warrant certainly does not mean he's guilty, but it does mean that they have probable cause that the man committed a crime.", "No it sounds like. what happened is he got lost in the system and paperwork got lagged and his federal status went from indicted to clear. I had to kick a crazy person out of my house and they went nuts and when the cop checked my identity my paperwork I had due to a domestic violence incident was delayed lost in the system and instead of saying clear it said detain…..\n\n\nMaybe your just fucking stupid.", "It’s not my responsibility to change it myself, and you’re using an argument that doesn’t help anyone. No, me being a police officer wouldn’t make things better without systemic change across the board. The furthest I’d go is vote for change.\n\nYou sound like a cop, honestly.", "And the state is infallible and never wrong /s", "They do. It's a power thing. They like feeling tough and ganging up on people", "Now try rubbing something in a police's face!", "Hes not stupid, reread your post it’s full of missing words/wrong words/typos making it very hard to follow.", "It’s this simple. Sometimes paperwork doesn’t catch up department wise. So sometimes one person has a warrant that is valid when in all reality on the 17th he cleared it up and it didn’t trickle down deparmentally so when the judge redacted his indicted “status” the courts didn’t e file in an expedient manner letting know the police department that the warrant they had to his arrest because of the plea agreement was bogus. Some towns especially Cleveland Ohio has huge turn over rates and see hundred upon hundreds of cases a day at the local magistrate.?\n\n I had something similar happen to me.", "The first paragraph makes perfect sense. Similar shit happened to me.", "He’d already been handcuffed for 45 seconds at that point. There was no reason to re-escalate the situation at that point. He sure as hell deserves punishment for that childish action.", "Hop to it champ.", "Cops will kill your daughter or family members and say to you with a straight face, \"I didn't kill them\". ALL COPS are monsters.", "So why not show the paperwork before arresting though? There’s a higher chance the person wouldn’t have reacted how he did, considering the reason he was angry was because another officer already told him he was innocent.", "electrocuting, by definition, means to kill someone.", "Yeah, as evidenced by how well those government vaccine mandates are going right now. Now just imagine for a second if you will that same federal government telling police to stand down and reform, a group of people that as you’ve seen in this video live to dominate and assert their power. I’m sure that mandate would go over insanely smooth.", "so have cars, you dont say your going execute someone when giving them a ride.", "\n>they could just snatch up anybody off the street and say afterwards \"oopsie daisy, there was a 'mistake'\n\nDude, they do that.", "This just in: “bad things are bad”", "Interesting how across all those countless counties this problem is one of the few constants you can always bet your life to find in the overwhelming majority of cases", "For the story", "People like handcuffed guy deserve to get rocked way harder than a paper in their face, and no one should be punished for it. Their parents clearly never did i guess, i dunno. I can't fathom acting that way. I haven't normalized oppositional defiant disorder.", "It's defined as injured or killed by electric shock. Seeing as how Tasers have been known to do both, I would say you are incorrect.", "Why? All I did is tell the truth.", "No, they don’t.", "My point is this.... Was this guy going to debate his way out of cuffs? All he did was risk injury to himself and prolong a situation that had only 1 outcome. He was going to get cuffed!\n\nHad he been a white guy would they have treated him any differently? I have no idea (I'm not white btw). Had they shown him the warrant at the start, would he have been cuffed quietly? Again I have no idea....\n\n I have already said they should have shown him the warrant from the start and agree rubbing it in his face was ridiculous.", "You think that if there's a warrant at all, they can treat that person however they want? This post is about shoving the warrant in his face after they've cuffed his wrists and ankles.", "Interesting point sure, doesn’t make it any less or more simple to solve.", "I mean, you might say that if you're planning to hit them with your car. Tasing someone isn't \"giving them a ride with electricity\" it's a weapon that is sometimes lethal.\n\nRegardless, that poster was just using \"electrocute\" to mean general electric shock because that's how lots of people use the term.", "“Cancel Christmas!” -“Colors” 1988", "Agreed they should have shown him the warrant up front. But isn’t that sort of the point? They’d already lied to him and all he was saying was “show me the warrant”\n\nIMO it’s a super fair response to have. \n\nHe passively resisted arrest and was the calmest person there. I think it’s ridiculous that we continuously criticize civilian behavior in these situations when they shouldn’t happen in the first place. Dude had every right to be pissed off and it’s unreasonable to expect him to behave perfectly calmly and rationally when the cops themselves weren’t", ">Yeah, because i'd rather not get shot. \n\nHonestly. If I don't put my hands behind my back when a cop asks and people are like, \"well you get whats coming to you\". As if the legal ramifications of my actions would be anything other than a non-violent response. Its just engrained in peoples heads that if you don't do what the cops say its ok for you to be murdered on the spot.", "Yes they do. They're uncivilized and volatile. They have no basic respect for others or control of themselves. They don't know what restraint means. These are real problems that need to be addressed in a real way.", "Out of interest does anyone know what the warrant was for? People will often get pissed and belligerent when they have been caught through deception.\n\nI agree asking to see the warrant was a fair response. Resisting was illogical. He could have gone quietly and then fought the charges based on them not having one. \n\nEither way he was getting cuffed.", "I think they are trained to secure and subdue rather than gain consent. They should have said \"we are placing you under arrest because you have a warrant.\" They skipped that in favor of telling him turn around and place your hands behind your back. \n\nMushing him in the face with the documents was so stupid. Still no weapons were drawn, no arm bar and no tap dance or punches.", "I think it's more the thought that your police have to be combatative rather than helpful. \n\nI'd gun for a mental health nurse joining the police rather than a soldier any day of the week.", "Which should be dealt with in the judicial system, not by cops. You call them uncivilized then in the same breath call for them to get beaten, just for not wanting to be handcuffed. How barbaric of you.", "Sure, but the first paragraph was a minority of the post and the rest was hard to follow. I thought I got it but wasn’t sure and could have seen how someone would be confused previously. And now you have corrected your typos. There’s no reason to be so defensive.", "Descalation of the situation. \n\nShow him the warrant, hear him out for a minute. Then let him know you have to take him in custody for the warrant and he will have a chance to explain his situation further to the judge and if he is right he will be released obviously. His concern seems to be losing his job and needing to call, let him call his job too so he can keep things rolling. Police should help the community first, always. Not just enforce laws with violence. That should be a last option not the first or even second. \n\nHe was already in a police station, he is a known person and it sounds like the warrant isnt serious. Time an patience can be used, surely less time than all this paperwork.", "I’m a very defensive person on the real. I was just trying to share a story and I have a disorder where my typing ps not the best dyslexia. Kind o of offensive to suggest drug use. I’ve seen a lot worse run on sentences and not clear points before. I was speaking of a concise incident. So you have to use your imagination a little bit sometimes on the internet.", "so you don't become an accidental drug dealer!! (heard that on a radio commercial the other day)", "They're just playing out their gay fantasy. \n\n\"Ooo yeah, I wanna dominate you. Let me dry hump you on this floor. Daddy, get out the toys!... uh, I mean taser!\"", "He knows the shit he did, he isn't surprised to find out that he has a warrant. No one, not even anyone, talks themselves out of being arrested. A person who had any self control and restraint might consider submitting to the cuffs and disputing it in court calmly later, but not these guys! These guys do things a littttttle differently. They think that if they resist as hard and frantically as possible, things will eventually work out. They might even get lucky enough to succesfully sue the police and make some big money!", ">those officers wouldn't have put me in handcuffs \n \nCops don't arrest white people with warrants? Amazing. \n \nHint: They absolutely will and if you resist it, like this gentleman did, you will be manhandled.", "That’s not really true. Many police departments do their jobs without major scandals or incidents like this\n\nPlenty of cops would simply rather have a 3 minute conversation with you than try to tackle you to the ground. The primary problem the US has is that we have no way to get rid of the power tripping assholes\n\nThen these power tripping assholes get more senior and promoted and can contaminate a whole precinct. We need to have ways to remove the assholes from power.\n\nBut to say literally every precinct has this problem is simply not true. It’s often the same precincts over and over", "I mean, hiring a gay sub prostitute is pretty expensive when you can get it for free with a badge.", "Because when all you can see is dirtbags and perps, that is all you see. Dirtbags and Perps get no respect and everyone is a potential dirtbag and perp.", "If you actually watched the video you would see that he's innocent.\n\nThe local guys had a warrant issued for a case AFTER it was transferred to federal court which the local cops had no authority to do. \n\nThe warrant was totally bogus because the charges were dropped at the federal level.\n\nThe cops just can't say. \"I don't like that the feds found you innocent, so I'm going to arrest you anyway.\"", "Oxford English Dictionary has defined it as injury or death caused by electricity. So nope, that's incorrect. And you failed to answer the question, because the word for what I described is electrocute.", "Not escalating the situation from the beginning is the alternative in this scenario. Telling the man he has a warrant and showing it to him justifies action if he starts resisting afterwards. It's (morally) unjustifiable to use force after you fucked up the situation from the start.", "Nope.\n\n>verb\n\n>gerund or present participle: electrocuting\n\n>injure or kill someone by electric shock.\n\n>\"a man was electrocuted when he switched on the Christmas tree lights\"\n\n\nElectrocution does though.", "Isn't that battery? They should file charges so the police can investigate themselves and the public can fund a civil suit in favor of the prosecutor.", "He resisted. I would have let them handcuff me and asked for the warrant and my lawyer. Then that way if they were in error- I can sue the living shit out of them.", "Some cops are so lazy they get mad at perps for making them jog.\n\nTrust, the only takedowns some cops want to do is of a box of fried chicken.", "No, judicial innocence (not guilty) is determined in a court, not in an arrest video. I care about the actual state of the accused not the takeaways from a 2 min video.", "With pay, I'm sure.", "Respect is comparable to all facets of life. The moment it isn’t is the moment we should all be worried we’re losing our humanity.", "Free motorboat", "...", "I’d be 6ft under with a broken family for the rest of their lives or utterly beaten to a pulp if I was lucky :/", "so if you put some1 on the electric chair zap em for a bit but they survive they werent electrocuted?", "So much this. Treat the guy like a human.", "Lol thanks, I'll think about how I might detect that in the future", "Sure it was illogical. People are illogical. We should expect public servants who are trained by and represent the government to behave better. It is a completely reasonable expectation that police de-escalate nonviolently where possible and I see no attempt to do that here beyond barking orders. \n\nIn many countries this simply would not be allowed. It’s fucking crazy how used to this sort of thing we are.", "wow... you are still here!? jesus dude", "I'm from the UK, and would expect a warrant to be produced if I'm getting arrested. But up until he resisted they police seemed calm, no?", "And the fucktarts will be out in force soon to defend these fucking stormtroopers.\n\nThis is why I always lean \"fuck the police\". When shit like this happens, the loudest voices in the police community come out of the woodwork to defend these scum sucking shit bags instead of condemning them like a rational human being would.\n\nSo today, fuck the police. If you're a police officer who came across this video and said nothing publicly to shame these fucking scumbags, please kindly go fuck yourself firmly up the ass. This is why we fucking hate you sometimes. It's not just the fuckheads, it's the god damn silence.", "The state of Mississippi only voted to ratify the 13th amendment to outlaw slavery in fucking 1995... and they didn’t finish formalizing the documentation until 2013. \n\nPeople try to say racism isn’t a thing and slavery was a long time ago and we should all just get over it... like, fam.... come on.", "Love your work dude, just fyi", "The only reason the guy came to the station was because he was specifically told by the police his charges were dropped. He was going there to reclaim his belongings. Hence the confusion when the police officer tried to put him in handcuffs.", "I came here to see if anyone else caught that too. Fuck man.\n\nIt's like people that are thrown in jail with the sole charge being resisting arrest.\n\nSuch a fucking rigged system.", "lol no you do not.", "Anyway, an interesting back and forth, which didn't descend into insults. Respect your viewpoint..take it easy!", "Not to me they didn’t. Arrested man is super calm. Cop walks up to him and nearly immediately orders him to put his hands behind his back. Context here is arrested man was specifically told he has no warrants out for his arrest. \n\nAll the arrested man does is move his arms away to resist being cuffed while asking for a warrant. \n\nClearly this would have gone without incident if the arrested man had ‘gone quietly’. I take issue with the idea that in general this burden should be on civilians, when a cop (who’s doing his job) insisted on arresting the guy without showing a warrant or anything. It easily stands to reason why this could cause a person to resist, but no attempt to de-escalate was made. \n\nThe issue I have at the core of this is the mentality many American cops seem to have of waiting for a “bad guy” to fuck up in a way that empowers the cop to arrest them. I have witnessed this firsthand even in traffic stops. This I think is a large cultural difference between us and uk cops", "Ha you too, hope you have a good life", "Love how you left out the qualifier on his statement to argue a point he never made", "The county said he wasn’t indicted. The county is not the federal government. The feds indicted him, leading to a federal warrant.", "Rewatched the clip, and yes you are right the one officer was gung-ho. I would be interested in what the warrant was for, and whether it played a part.. \n\nHopefully someone on Reddit will shed more light. \n\nI'm out 👍", "If you have an arrest warrant you will absolutely be arrested on sight and at the first opportunity. This isn't something that is done uniquely only to black people.", "Fuck that. Keep the police accountable.", "Dude, you just said motor vehicle court when you meant to say traffic court. You are a joke to everyone here.", "Thank you", "Under the current system, citizens are defacto cattle. And will be treated as such until the good men and women stand up and resist.", "They definitely fucked up here but that first line requires them to be in cuffs the last line dictates if they can use additional restraints. Im bot saying they did the right thing here but putting him in handcuffs is required", "Well I’m not American genius. We have a slightly different system. Brilliant observation tho! Riveting. You got your 2 pence in now.", "Not an American, but you’re arguing with us about due process... riiiight.", "Only the rules that protect them lol", "Wrong, I was not arguing about due process. I was asking if the accused was in-fact proven innocent.", ">There's a chance of injury no matter what when things escalate this far. \n\nHow about telling the guy why he is under arrest and showing him the paperwork before getting to this point?", "Sincere question here- what does bootleather taste like after being continually sucked on?", "Reddit loves semantics.\n\nElectrocute means die by excessive electric current.\n\nIt's not unheard of to see cops kill someone with a tazer. Gives some good plausible deniability vs a gun tho.", "It is. He replied to me yesterday with that same copy paste reply.", "So you would publicly degrade and humiliate yourself for an undecided amount of money that you may or may not see a dime of?\n\nYou should really talk to a counselor about your low sense of self worth and esteem.", "I’m not a cop but honestly that’s the first thing I thought too. If you are worried have someone stand at the exit so the person can’t just run out of the door but why not just approach them and ask questions etc in order to clarify everything", "I disagree with you completely. \n\nYou want to apply atypical situations to typical situations. Most warrants are traffic related or non violent. If this was a murder warrant guy wouldnt be in the police station. Everything is situational. The onus should always be serve the public, do all you can to help them. They pay the bills. If the person is a violent offender they can very easy surround the area.\n\nOther countries do this very stuff, its not rocket science. This us verse them mentality has to end in law enforcement, its us, helping each other. Thats how you solve crime, you work together. But communities distrust the police because of how police have treated them for years and years. 59 cops in the US were killed in the line of duty in 2020. around 1200 people were killed by cops in 2020. Both these numbers should be way down. You get there through better law enforcement and community outreach not just thumping skulls, that tactic has never worked", "I’m not. But they have a dropbox for pharmaceuticals there for some reason.", "Cops lie especially if they can make an easier arrest by getting the future arrestee to come to the Precinct instead of having to goto his house.", "I would imagine it’s has a lot more to do with an extreme build up of anger and anxiety that results in explosive outbursts rather than enjoyment of hurting people.", "I think there's something in the hiring practices, and general community of police, that fosters this behaviour.", "They could have simply explained what he has a warrant for before going hands on, they went directly to hands on. All of this starts by treating people how you want to be treated and being the adult in the room reguardless of how anyone else is acting.", "The opposite seems to be true.\n\nThe more each country vaccinates, the more people have been catching covid.\n\nFor instance more people have died and gotten sick from covid this year, then last year when there was no \"vaccine.\" Back before they changed the definition of vaccines.", "Show me a cop killed by an anarchist in America in the last two years. Show me a cop killed in a BLM protest that wasn't shot by a right winger.", "I can't exactly speak for whichever particular country you're in, but I can say that, as someone who has spent quite a bit of time in Canada as well, both the public sentiment on police (i.e. fear of violence) and the actual attitude/sentiment of at minimum the police I've dealt with, has been quite different. 10/10 rather deal with a cop in Canada most any day, when considering experiences with both - and again, I say this even as a foreign citizen. The God Complex you hear mentioned among US cops is in no way exaggerated.", "“Before petitioner could rely on the privilege against self- incrimination, he was required to invoke it. Because he failed to do so, the judgment of the Texas Court of Crimi- nal Appeals is affirmed.\nIt is so ordered.”\n\nThat’s the ending of the majority opinion of Salinas v Texas, written by justice Alito and joined by Chief Justice Roberts and Justice Kennedy. That’s the law.", "That's a bunch of assumptions about what I know and dont.\n\nSo many times in the past couple years i've had to point out, \"this isnt my idea, but what the learned scientists are saying.\"\n\nI'm not the one who said mRNA vaccines are actually therapeutics, that was Robert Malone, the co-inventor of the technology.\n\nI'm not the one that said PCR tests dont work the way they are being used, that was the inventor of said tests.\n\nViral load of the vaccinated vs unvaccinated has been found to be about the same, since august.\n\nAgain, I didnt do the testing, scientists did and came to that realization.", "I get what you're saying, but from this guy's perspective, he was in the right, understood where the cops were coming from, but wanted to explain to them the case was dropped, so there was no need for the arrest warrant.\n\nHe assumed the warrant would be quashed without doing anything, and he found out another bit of our broken system and how it hurts everyone involved.", "They have a disposing system. There are not a lot of safe way to dispose of medications I imagine. Especially if it's a narcotic of some sort.", "Never said it didnt exist, just stated it isnt as much of a thing anymore.\n\nCops are more likely to be concerned about dealing you due to classism, than racism.\n\nBut any person that seems to far out of a humans group, will be treated by the human animal mind as the worst possible case, until proven otherwise.\n\nSaw plenty of politicians act this way in the 90s towards gay people, until they they \"transitioned\" as they learned a friend or love one was non-binary too.", "For real though, why don't they just tell him at the start?", "Truly disgusting.\n\nI've been homeless before, and got arrested for camping out under a bridge a few days before christmas. Cops were almost gleeful bringing us in. Like they were getting some kind of bonus for doing so.", "Pharmacies here have to accept returned medicines.", "That take down was pathetic", "If you see something as flawed and it bothers you, isn't trying fix it yourself the most direct course of action? \n\nNot trying to be hyperbolic here but if everyone who wanted to see better policing said \"Nah, I'm not gonna do it myself, I'll have someone else do it\" then don't you end up with zero people trying to change the system?", "God damn dude. This shit is fucking disgusting. Wish there was a way to unblur these pigs", "I’m imagining it was Amoxicillin. Whoa there El Chapo.", "“Resist arrest” should not be a crime. It’s literally the only sane reaction a human can have when being physically restrained. It’s not natural and your survival instincts kick in. Fuck the protection we give cops. They’ve proven they do not deserve it.", "Maybe I missed something here with all these comments, but if the cops say your under arrest, and the bad guy says, “no I’m not”, then the cops are supposed to just let him go?\n\nAnd he can pretend he’s not being violent, but they end up having to need 5 cops just to get him in cuffs, and you can even see one cop in the background limping.. so he even got hurt on this nonsense.\n\nDid the world suddenly turn upside down?", "Can't see the forest for the trees. What I am saying is that in most first world countries, officers are allowed to approach non aggressive suspects with facts without having them in handcuffs first.", "It might’ve been and that’s really funny until you’ve stood in front of a judge after having the police break down your door and hold you at gunpoint while they ransack your house because they suspected your renter was dealing weed. \n\nNo charges for him but since they had to get somebody for something they charged me with having dexamethasone. (Same schedule as Amoxicillin, Scarface.)\n\nCops do not fucking care they will charge you with anything they can, especially if it’s really easy for them. \n\nEnded up getting a continuance for dismissal after having mandated drug evaluation. Oh and as a bonus they called my employer trying to get me fired. Spent a few weeks on administrative leave dealing with that. Oh yeah and that lawyer cost was really cheap too. \n\nSo yeah, I’m not going near cops for any reason, especially to go dispose of prescriptions that aren’t mine.", "\"You're splitting hairs\"\n\nYou're damn right he is. This is his life and his body he has every right to split hairs with how you performed your duty. What's the physical difference between a cop doing his job \"right\" and a cop abusing his power? Most people can't tell. A better officer would have explained what was going down prior to cuffing him.", "So... logic isn't your strong suit, is it? He showed up to turn himself in.. and then he's going to run away? Use your brain manga311.", "They intentionally don't get consent so they can harm people. Time and time again we see cops doing shit like this instead of doing anything else to prevent escalation. A simple, \"here's your warrant since you don't believe us,\" letting him read it, and then putting him under arrest would more than likely have resolved all of these issues. Instead they chose to escalate first.", "Stupid comparison", "No he said \"put your hands behind your back\" when asked why he responded \"because i told you to\". He is already fighting with the guy before he ever tells him he has a warrant or what for. This whole thing went wrong from the first sentence and the police officer was acting like an asshole and not the professional he should be expected to be.", "Fucking animals.", "guy shows up and asks if there's a warrant for his arrest. Then you make a comment like this. lol. \n\nI don't know about you but I always pop into the place station when I'm nearby and ask if there's anything they want to arrest me for.", "No, sounds like they literally lied to him to get him to show up..... Which should be another crime in itself.", "If more people who felt the way you do did become cops that actually could make a difference. You could begin to slowly change things from the inside, which could lead to legislation.", "a toilet works just fine, or a garbage can.", "and they chained him like serial murderer lol", "You are quite clear in exhibiting your lack of understanding on vaccine and hence there is no need for assumptions. Besides, when you bring in Robert Malone, you expose yourself as a QAnon useful idiot. You are merely a tool to parrot \"ideas\" that have been proven false because you are too dense to understand why they are false while being too enamored to be able to be part of a small movement that appears to be pushing back against the mainstream.\n\nHere is a simple visualization to demonstrate how wrong you are:\n\nhttps://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/raxc31/oc\\_us\\_covid19\\_deaths\\_by\\_vaccine\\_status/", "What?! Crazy coincidence, sorry man. It’s crazy they get you with having someone else’s anti-inflammatory. Police usually have their minds made up. All I ever say is “lawyer” and I still have done 1.5mths waiting for release to a halfway. I’ve gotten charged with felony assault on an officer for ME getting tased while sitting down. I was just figuring out I had schizophrenia and someone wasn’t actually projecting my thoughts. They assumed it was “spice”. They think I don’t remember because of how delusional I was (voices came out of nowhere one day when I woke up). It’s sad how they treat mental problems as well, especially for nonviolent offenders. Police suck my man, and I’m afraid that will NEVER change. Thanks for the backstory!", "There are a lot of ways that putting it in the trash can backfire. Depending on your living circumstances, kids can get into trash, animals, etc. If it's a shared dumpster somebody else can get ahold of it, that kind of stuff. With the toilet, I wonder. If the water, wherever it ends up, now has narcotics dissolving in it? I'm not a chemist so I don't know all the risks involved.", "Man if my kids are digging pills out of the garbage to eat them I got way bigger problems.", "Democrats aren't left. I'm allowed to clarify the bounds of my statement. I agree with your last sentence.", "> Would it have been that hard to just show him the warrant and let him read it\n\nIs there anyone who can explain this justification? I've seen it countless times in police videos where they just refuse to talk.. So often that it seems like it is part of the training.\n\n\"Put your hands behind your back.\"\n\n\"For what?\"\n\n\"We'll talk about that in a second. Put your hands behind your back.\"\n\n\"Just tell me what I'm being arrested for.\"\n\n\"Put your hands behind your back.\"\n\nI don't understand why this needs to happen. If the goal is to keep people calm, OPs video shows that clearly it doesn't work.", "This. This infuriated me from the start.", "He's the color of guilt, huh? That's what I'm picking up. Pigs should me named and shamed. And fired, and prosecuted. Instead, ONE of them gets a 1 day paid vacay.", "Most certainly a power trip. Another way you can identify this is the unnecessary yelling. There was no reason for them to yell other than to kick their adrenaline into gear.", "Try being from the PNW (and rural America as a whole) Forks is 'typical'. \n\nSome of the people are just wow. Prideful ignorance.\n\nMost are great people that live in a insulated world.", "Yeah, I live here and I don't enjoy it. It does need to change, and getting outside perspective will help that.", "Wrong, you were not asking, you were asserting. That is demonstrably apparent.", "Why is it everyone with a dumb ass comment that holds absolutely no value calls it \"Truth\"? \n\nEvery sense of the meaning has gone from the foundation of fact to \"Uh, yeah I just feel this way and I'm allowed to say it because I feel it\". \n\nThink before you speak, this situation is not one sided by any means. The dude had a warrant issued and if he complied, would not be in jail for resisting authority. Do we even know what the dude did? Did he beat up a grandma or rob someone at gunpoint? He is no angel and doesn't deserve to be given the same treatment as those who are not suspect to a crime.", "Facts be facts.\n\nThough may be factually guilty, and in the long term that matters, but we don't know the facts, and to raise the level of compassion presuming his innocence until we are provided factual evidence of guilt is the best way to go. \n\nI'm pretty sure due process is super important, which is used to establish what is factually true.", "Obviously it's a waste of time trying to discuss anything with someone who is unable to have a civil discussion, and must attempt to prove their superiority while also being immature and insulting.\n\nAs they say, you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar.", "Thank you for keeping their boots clean with your tongue.", "you make no sense.", "I think you are confusing red counties/states redefining things so hide infection info.\n\nFlorida is evil this way.", "For the good cops out there, you're not making a difference by staying on the force. A difference is the sum of subtraction, and the force needs officers to operate. If you want to make a difference then do your part and subtract yourself from the problem. Depriving the force of it's primary resource is how we weaken it to the point that we can change it.", "Yes they are, and from the way you sound, it's people like you that just ignore it or actively fight against change, that helps to continue this bad stuff. No one is enjoying this kind of mess, as you say, of undeserving people being abused and executed by the police force to the point that it's a country wide issue.", "That makes no sense. Guy showed up in good faith at the police station expecting the cops to be reasonable and open to clearing things up without unecessary confrontation. The cops chose to be confrontational, the cops chose to handcuff a man that did not appear to have any hostile intent. He was justifiably upset that the cops reacted to his cooperation with hostility.\n\nHow he might be in his home is entirely irrelevant and speculative on your part.", "Wrong, read my original post, it is a question, a single question specifically not addressing anything other than the facts (if any) of the accused actual state of innocence. I only ever agreed to due process. \n\nTry again.", "Yup, i'd get instantly fired.", "You don't know how wrongful arrest works, but that's ok. Plenty of people are stupid.", "The Trump era began a trend in which the mentally deranged have been empowered to say the maximum bullshit with the most confidence while insulting those far mentally abler than them. Bet you were very supportive of that spectacle when it happened? Well, the nerds are pushing back with the added convenience that science and facts will back them. Not to mention, gainful jobs and the pride of actually running the country's economy.", "Just suspended--- police officer has obvious self control issues", "That isn't consistent with their training. The biggest problem here was failure to follow a lawful instruction but i agree they should have told him he's being placed under arrest for a warrant. The warrant gives them the right to arrest; they don't need the person's consent.", "Stupid? Like your parents when they thought it was a good idea to have a kid? Yes, plenty of stupid people out there.", "No. These numbers are worldwide.", "Yep and that’s why you see a larger number of bitter ex-cops cause once they retire they lose that 30 year high they’ve been on.", "Stupid like thinking you're a badass who'd talk their way out of a wrongful arrest instead of ending up in a YouTube cringe comp. Very, very goddamn stupid. \n \nBut it's ok, you're white so the only time you'd be wrongfully arrested is in the little imaginary scenarios you play out in your head.", "Yeah it's like those guys at concerts when I was younger that put their beer on the ground waiting for someone to knock one down. Just looking for confrontation. Plus if this was me I probably would have been shown the warrant and be escorted out calmly because I'm white...", "Cops: Now look I know we asked you to come in here for this reason, but can you look at these papers and accept that you have a warrant out? \n\n Suspect: I think that's old because on my phone I just got a msg a day after saying I was free to go. \n\n Cops: Can I see it? Suspect: Yes, is it ok I get my phone?\n\n Cops: Huh, ok lets call the office and figure it out. \n\n&#x200B;\n\n \\--Also cops: A lot of being not getting paid now. --", "Are you fucking kidding me? Dude's inside a police station. He's not going to be able to flee.", "Don't know where I ever said I was a badass who could talk my way out of a wrongful arrest when in fact I made a throwaway quip about how the officer would charge you for getting naked AFTER he told you to get naked.\n\nSeems like you are being hostile for absolutely no reason, and then felt the need to dig in further when the hostility was tossed back to you. I don't actually know if your parents actually are stupid, but they certainly failed to teach you how to communicate in a polite manner with people who aren't attacking you.\n\nAlso, I mean, I HAVE been arrested before. Can your pale Teutonic ass say the same?", "[Officer Found Justified in Shooting Handcuffed Man](https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/utah/articles/2021-07-22/salt-lake-officer-found-justified-in-shooting-handcuffed-man)", "No it doesn’t. I don’t even think you know what the meaning of articulate is lmfao To articulate is to speak fluently and coherently, and as far as I can tell, my points have been getting across to everyone else a lot more than your “Bri-ish” nonsense. Just stfu and go back to reading your dictionary cuz you need to brush up on some of these words you’re using lmfao", "No they do not. If they had said \"where here to arrest you for X\" instead going start for body slamming him into submission, he would provided the information regarding the case that they were lacking with no force and detention necessary. \n\nThey assumed he was a dangerous maniac, and in doing so made themselves look like dangerous maniacs.\n\nAll they had to do was answer the man's question. Literally all it took to end the situation. But yeah, they totally neeeeeded to detain that guy. Ffs", "You do realize you still haven’t grasped the concept of “innocent till proven guilty”, I figured explaining it to you for the hundredth time would really let it sink in, but I guess you’re just to “articulate” for my explanations. Oh look at me misusing the word articulate, your bad habits are rubbing off on me, I think it’s time I stop talking to you, bye salty psycho lmfao", "I don’t know how it works is the US but where I’m from a arrest warrant is actually an order to present the person to court.\n\nThe person being arrested could prove all they want to the police, at that point they are still getting arrested and taken to court.", "Yes, so articulate and intellectual to boot", "You make no sense, I’m honestly starting to worry about you. Have fun with your crayons and dictionary.", "> Off duty cops are attacked all the time when they are recognised.\n\n If it happens all the time, you clearly have a source. Do you mind sharing cause I couldn't find anything myself. I did however dig up the stats for ALL officer related assaults, but the vast majority are in the line of duty which is unfortunate, but understandable. \nhttps://ucr.fbi.gov/leoka/2019/topic-pages/officers-assaulted\n\nNothing on off-duty dangers.", "It was determined in court. They dismissed the charges and he had the paperwork on his phone to show it.\n\nIt's telling that you couldn't watch the entire video or read the associated article.", "Sure they are.\n\nThat must be why all those European countries are starting to impose vaccine mandates.\n\nBecause they are useless.\n\nProbably doing it to own the Libs.", "They didn't read him his Miranda rights.", "What is the legal definition of, \"resisting\"?", "If police officers can't keep somebody inside a police station, they should be fired for incompetence. He doesn't actually get faster the longer he stands still.", "Ad hominem attacks pulled from someone’s post history are a true sign of triggered upset in mentally deficient redditors. \n\nI’m sorry I hurt you lol.", "Great, no I did not read the article. The news stories say they tricked him with a fake email saying his charges were dismissed to get him to come back to the jail and then they rearrested him.", "Your cops are shit. Every day on here there’s another cop violence video. Luckily I live in a country where police violence is very rare. You guys seem to accept how the cops behave. Here there be outrage. Our cops are trained to minimise not antagonise. \n\nI find the shoot first ask questions later strategy super odd and even worse is there’s pretty much nothing going on in mass media about it. \n\nSo. Dumb ass comment from a moron? \nThat’s kinda what I’m thinking about your comments, but that would be a rude way to go about things, so I won’t say it. \n\nI think putting up with this police nonsense and then defending it is crazy.", "He went to grab his stuff not clear things up. He had no intention of clearing things up when he was there from the way it sounded.", "Fair point. They should have stated that he had a warrant. Although, he was there under the idea that he was picking stuff up and his warrant was there anymore.", "That's the point. January 6th lead to the deaths pf some 6 officers and tons more injured. Are we equating the attempted over throw of the government with a bunch of idiots planting bombs? [Fun fact they found people with explosives in their vehicles at the Jan 6th event... ffs dude extremists are extremists and need to be dealt with.", "You can say that, but have you been to their trainings? I haven’t. Though I have heard of trainings where they literally quote Hitler saying you should stamp out noncompliance with as much force as possible. There was a huge story several years ago from Arkansas maybe about that.", "Why would they \"try again\" when you turn tail and run away at the first sign of real opposition?", "Weird assumption, and poor reductive reasoning to assume the person you disagree with is in a group you abhor.\n\nI get it, but it's a lazy thinking and debating position.", "That’s essentially what it is. They take you in, process you, present you before a judge with your charges, you enter your plea, and then may or may not be let out on bail depending on the charges. \n\nThat’s not the issue here though. I don’t know what the outcome was, but it seems his warrant was processed by two different courts (one local and one federal) and both gave conflicting information. The police received an arrest warrant from the local court and then the next day he received a dismissal from a federal court. A federal court always supersedes a local court, so the warrant the police have and are acting on may not be valid anymore. That’s the issue. \n\nThe guy showed up to the police station under his own will, which I think shows he was willing to talk about it and figure it out. They could have taken him in, sat down, made some phone calls, and figured it out without getting violent. But instead, they immediately tried to cuff someone who thinks they have no right to cuff him and it turned violent.", "Ah yes, paid vacation.", "No, they're making mandates, because it's ever increasing requirements for a totalitarian state. They have to do this because too many people arent trusting enough of their governments and big pharma for some reason. Almost like recent history has given them reason to doubt these people are being honest, and it's all being done in the name of protecting people.\n\nRemember this all began with \"2 weeks to flatten the curve.\"\n\nThe goal posts are moved each week, and if they'd been done all at once, there'd be worldwide war against the establishments.", "Yeah, but he did it like once, half assed and they gave him a shiny sticker.", "I'm glad your happy where you are at, however I'm sure if I Googled your country I would see all the dumb shit your country does as well. Our shit might stink in America but I'm still proud to be a part of it. But keep throwing rocks, I'm sure your glass house is cracked as well, ours just happens to be bigger and on a hill.", "If they literally just said “we have a warrant that says you are indicted, he could’ve calmly responded (which he tried to) that he has conflicting information, they could’ve figured out the truth and that tiny bitch plain clothes cop wouldn’t have had to get a heart attack struggling to bring this guy who wasn’t even resisting to the ground", "Put 10 white people in the same situation, maybe 5 of them will be put in cuffs. Put 10 black people in the same situation, probably 9 of them will be put in cuffs. That's the point he's making.\n\nYes I made up those numbers but we can say this with reasonable certainty because there is clear proof of systemic racism through police departments across the country.", "Fun times in Cleveland today!\n\nStill Cleveland!", "> Go ask your local cop. There is your source.\n> \n> But you won't. \n\n> There was just a huge article about how cops are not willing to service the area they live in because of the fear of being recognised.\n\nI ask for a source and you condescendingly tell me to go get an anecdote. You then tell me about a \"huge article\" without a link to anything. I thought I would give you the benefit of the doubt, but you have essentially spat on my offering for you to genuinely educate me. \n\nYou have provided nothing to this conversation and are unworthy of anyone's attention. I will leave at that. Good day sir.", "This is obviously why he was asking about the warrant\n\nIf they let him read it first, he would have been able to explain the situation. And still maybe be arrested, but at least understand what legal authority they are supposed to have....cough cough fourth amendment", "Man for real. And they repeated it multiple times. It’s strange to be so adamant about something that everyone knows is disingenuous. It makes me think those cops have had a lot of reasons to lie. \n\nAlso “why would we lie and put our jobs in jeopardy? We’re on camera.” 10 seconds later one of them shoves the warrant in a handcuffed man’s face. I guess they really care about the cameras after all. And why would they? The cop got a free day off for his troubles.", "Are you crazy? He might rub that chalkboard on your face!", "Just put your hands behind your back when cops ask. Otherwise that’s resisting. Most of these comments are written by absolute fools.", "Exactly this, at its core its an officer telling someone to do something that the officer thought was justified.\n\nWhat if the guy had an actual warrant out for him for a dangerous crime, they didn't cuff him, and he just bolted out the door and did it again? \n\n\"I don't want to\" and getting off scotch free can't be an acceptable answer when law enforcement tells you to do something.", "Military doesn't want em. Here in the states an aggressive asshole cop can get you in trouble. Overseas an aggressive asshole infantryman can get your squad wiped.", "Look man, you don't have to deep throat the whole boot. Cops aren't your friends.", "exactly. unfortunately police station is no court and arguing with cops is futile. if cops fucked up, guy should sue them. and that's how the department would avoid further errors.\n\nmore than 80% of the deaths are caused due to resisting arrest. clearly cops won't leave if they think you need to be arrested. \n\nand I've seem Public promoting the perpetrators to resist and egg law enformceme, which only qns only makes the situation worse.", "He was guilty. He had a federal warrant.", "perfect summation of what should have happened..completely agree.", "They are such brave heroes lol", "Holy shit I'm not reading a word of that.", "A person who had any self control and restraint wouldn't rough up someone already in cuffs and assault them by rubbing stuff in their face. A \"peace officer\" should be a paragon of the community, not a bully who tries to teach someone a \"lesson\"", "Nah, these scumbags need to be taught a hard lesson by whatever means necessary, they shouldn't be rewarded and coddled for being thugs. They tend to learn mostly by force and strength. They perceive calm and courteous behavior as weakness and they hate weakness, it's a street/thug thing you see. \n\nHe actually said \"what's wrong with you\" for getting a paper pushed in his face after causing all that mayhem, what a little bitch with zero self awareness lol\n\nWrestling with several cops, resisting arrest: I sleep\n\nPush arrest warrant in the guy's face: Real shit??\n\nSuch a joke.", "As a white guy I have no doubt they would have treated me differently.", "Exactly why i'd like them trained beyond military tactics and gear, but with military sensibility and rules of engagement.\n\nBut as you say, most of these guys wouldnt be able to cut it in todays military.", "show their faces. Everyone involved in this needs to be known. That’s fair, right?", "FUCK. ALL. COPS.", "Stop drinking the kool-aid man.\n\nREAL totalitarian governments have been hiding or ignoring covid.", "Yeah, but he's black. That's just how it goes in the USA.", "Yes you did. LOL", "Sure, because everything about covid makes it harder to push totalitarian policies. /s", "That’s such bullshit. Why do we allow this crap?", "He's also killed 2 others and got off. Seems like a pattern.", "Piggybacking PSA:\n\nAnyone else having this problem on desktop should take a look at the SponsorBlock extension. Instantly prompted me to skip to the highlight, of course it's community based, but it's doing a hell of a good job. (also available through the youtube vanced app I believe)", "Everything about those cops is pathetic.", "The video description says “suspended without pay”.", "On the political compass Democrats are on the right but im not here to change minds I'm just here to tell you you're a fucking idiot", "The city of Cleveland uses a public records loophole that allows them to blur all officers’ faces. The law states that an officer who COULD serve in an undercover capacity can have their face redacted. Oddly enough its Cleveland's policy to have ALL officers listed as “possibly serve in an undercover capacity”. Total bullshit.", "It’s too bad that we don’t hold our police officers to the same standard as an office worker or retail employee.", "So are you blaming Trump or Biden for EVERYTHING?\n\nOr just \"Government\"?\n\nLike what do you think is a better alternative?", "Right. What spectators should do is film the interaction and tell them to comply and keep their mouth shut. Never say Anything without your lawyer there", "Nobody clicks on things on Reddit bro, come on. Lol", "Just show him the piece of paper you pieces of shit. You already had him surrounded and he wasn’t being hostile. Like is he going to not like what he sees on the paper AND THEN resist arrest or whatever. It would be the same end result for the cops if they are in the right, and they know they are protected when they are in the wrong.\n\nIt’s like they get conditioned to treat civilians as less than human, even when the person isn’t a suspect or is even bring cooperative.", "In a Word doc and they let him copy and paste.", "Why would you think it's the fault of any one person?\n\nOffice of president is a scapegoat and distraction for the deepstate that's been in place for decades. It's like our own royalty, but by a different name.\n\nWhy is it my responsibility to come up with an alternative?\n\nYou went from \"stop drinking the kool-aid\" and in disbelief of my point, to where can we find a better flavor.\n\nThe system is broken, and it does everyone a disservice to pretend otherwise.", "Must be a professional football player or basketball", "I gave three options.\n\nThe \"deep state\" isn't a thing!\n\nIf you think it the \"government\", then why are other countries doing better than america?\n\nYou know the richest, most powerful country in the world.\n\nI feel like you want to say SOME company controls the government?\n\nALL of them?\n\nBig Oil? Big Pharma? Big Tech? Big whatever else?", "Yeah well you could join, and then those policies you want might actually happen. Or you can do nothing, and complain, and it won't. Basically you're worse than them, because you aren't even willing to try to make things the way you want them.", "Yeah again, you're just complaining and not doing anything about what you see is a problem. When you want the real person to blame, you look in the mirror. If you want to fix something, do it yourself. Instead you'll whine because you aren't man enough to actually stand up for what you believe in.", "He wouldn't let them put him in cuffs so that's what happens lol", "The deepstate is a thing, and has been openly discussed in the media for over a decade.\n\nIt mainly includes those in positions of power for many years, but never elected. \n\nThere's ever more secret courts that they're involved with as well.\n\nALL major companies have been shown to control our government through lobbying and regulatory capture.\n\nMaybe you need a sip of this kool-aid. You seem closed minded and brain washed by corporate media.", "well said and completely agree with ur response. half the deaths occur cz folks feel the need to resist or run or worse, attack cops. I've seen a lot more examples of cops being in danger than vice versa. hence I've sympathy. we should always however hold cops to a better standard than criminal cz they have authority and it shouldn't be misused. ok rubbing the paper was bit much but again not a fireablw crime..frustration is plausible when every guy is out shitting and not following directive", "behavior dictates a lot of response. are you saying black ppl.behave differently than white folks? may be you're. forget color, less threatening and more compliant individual will be dealt with nicely. and almost all of them will be in handcuffs", "The Corporate Media that nontrols the government but hates Big Pharma that also controls the government?\n\nOr\n\nThe Corporate Media that controls the government that hates Big Tech that also controls the government?\n\nOr\n\nThe Corporate Media that controls the government that hates Big Oil that also controls the government?\n\nIt all gets confusing when you have so many bosses!\n\nDon't forget Hollywood controls the government.\n\nAnd the Military Industrial Complex controls the government.\n\nAnd China controls the government.\n\nAnd Russia controls the government.\n\nAnd the European Union controls the government.\n\nAnd the World Health Organization controls the government.\n\nAnd the \"Church\" controls the government.\n\nDid i miss any?\n\nAnd all so you have to wear a mask and get a vaccine because your mild discomfort will big massive profits.", "exactly. if cop is doing something or the perp is doing smthing wrong, it'll be caught. regardless, documenting ensures ppl don't act crazy and avoid loss of life situations.", "you a dee dee dee", "You can pretend I did if it makes you feel better, but I genuinely don't give a fuck about your dumbass ramblings. Which is why I'm blocking you :) Enjoy your sad life, loser!", "Fact", "And you were just born retarded it appears, using wierdo terms like that. Did you hear that from Cardi B or something? Travis Scott maybe? Some other rapper?", "And if I restrained you with handcuffs and put you in my car, I'd be charged with kidnapping.", "Rub the constitution in the pigs face. Fucking scumbag piece of shit.", "Fuck off comparing nazis and dems in the same breath give me proof of your statements then we can talk you are so full of shit. 6 officers have died because of Jan 6. That's a fact you give no valid point and bring up bs stats.", "You're pretty close.\n\nConnected at many levels, in combat at others, but always supportive of the overall plan.\n\nYou do understand these vaccines only lessen the symptoms for a few months for those who take them, but do not stop transmission?\n\nWearing a mask is damaging in multiple ways when wearing them for long periods of time, and not using disposable, medical grade ones. \n\nI'm not the only one against these things https://gbdeclaration.org/", "my man you a racist with a keyboard. we know this. relax and go say the N word in CoD or whatever it is yall do", "It's all good, I can use urban dictionary too, hit me with your common tongue.", "Most people don't want to be handcuffed when they've done nothing wrong. It's degrading, humiliating, and he was tricked into the situation. Nobody offered to give him any paperwork, and he was checking his case on his phone, which said there was no warrant on the case.\n\nI'd be fucking pissed too. Have me sit down, explain there's a warrant, and go from there. Or hell, walk him to another room other than the lobby and have him wait there, instead of going right for cuffs.", "It's your comprehension skills that are in the spotlight. I did not say I abhor a specific group as much as I abhor the trend. I did not even say that those who align with Trump participate in this trend. If anything, the US is now hostage to the dim-witted who appear to operate both in the extreme right and the left polluting the airwaves.\n\nThis is not a complex matter needing deep thinking and debating. The country suffers when dumb ideas rise to the top. You floated a dumb idea and I pointed it out.", "Fuck off troll.", "Nobody clicks things on reddit\n\nThe double “on” is redundant.", "> Never voluntarily be around cops", "Well i would rather get a little pin pick every couple months that die a horrible death trying to fight to breathe.\n\nAnd it the government has to force stupid people to save them, then i am fine with that.\n\nDo you feel the same way about seat belts?\n\nBecause ALL of these excuses were thrown around about seatbelts. \n\nIn the 80s(?)\n\nGovernment overreach.\n\nLow and behold no Totalitarian state emerged.\n\nJust the rich getting richer.\n\nNothing more nothing less.\n\nWell except republicans rolling back human rights, but that is a different discussion.", "\"Hands behind your back.\"\n\n\"Why you say that?\"\n\n\"Cause I asked you to.\"\n\nInstant escalation, no explanation, he wanted to know why he was being arrested, there was no discussion beforehand, then they start saying he has a warrant when he's (apparently) been checking his case on his phone. He wants to see the warrant before he's arrested. I feel that's pretty fucking reasonable. He had his hands up, didn't push back, he just wanted to read the warrant before he was put in cuffs.", "I know right!! But unfortunately with this crowd here… they believe that the cops tell someone your under arrest, and if the bad guy says no.. then the cops have to walk away.", "Excuse me sir, we believe you have a warrant. Please kindly place your hands in these cuff??? Bad guy: fuckyou assholes!!! Cops: ok good sire.. sorry for bothering you.. have a good day.", "1) Has a warrant \n2) Has already shown to be a flight risk \n3) Has not turned himself in when summoned \n4) Is resisting an arrest \n \nThat is already 4 reasons for a cop to handcuff someone on sight. You are making this about race when it clearly isn't. \n \nIt is a man with a warrant, who has already shown to be a flight risk and hasn't turned himself in when summoned, resisting an arrest. \n \nI will bet you money that a white man will get handcuffed 100% having done all of the 4 things mentioned above.", ">The Trump era began a trend in which the mentally deranged have been empowered to say the maximum bullshit with the most confidence while insulting those far mentally abler than them. Bet you were very supportive of that spectacle when it happened?\n\nYou obviously implied what you are now backpedaling on, while continually being rude and degrading.\n\nWhy is it not possible for you to be able to have a mature and reasoned discussion? This is what I find wrong with america.\n\nI hated all the Trump BS. But after 4 years and seeing how others acted, i'm more in favor of many of the Trumpers talking points.\n\nStaying divided and being cruel to eachother perpetuates the divide and conquer reality that has been foisted upon us.\n\nAlso, interesting you mention comprehension skills, as I was tested to have better comprehension than 98% of the population.", "I was always advised by my physician to flush medications. And I believe that's pretty standard practice in the US.", "Yeah because change has never happened in the US from outside the group. Ya know, like from marches or protests, or newly elected representatives.\n\nYou sound like you're not American at all. I know I don't like nazis, doesn't mean I have to be one to make sure they're not up to no good.\n\nIt's honestly the shittiest argument you could make. You know what joining the police force and asking for change sounds like? A plan for an early retirement with no pay.\n\nEDIT: You're a fuckin' cop lol.", "It's even worse than that... They've also had a case or two where someone invoked the fifth and THAT was used against them. My understanding is you want to state \"I will not make any statements without an attorney present\" and then hold to it.", "I think they just wanted to get him cuffed. So, he is clearly resisting and they have the option of using the physical force needed to subdue him and cuff him or to use a tazer. Both suck. What would you have them do just wait it out till the guy puts the cuffs on himself?", "Right you are, Kenny!", "That is what happens, that isn't what should happen.", "I'm confused on what you think the most direct course of action is for defunding the police departments to a reasonable level, as well as systemic changes.\n\nFor what you're arguing, you're assuming that once I join the police force, I'm suddenly in a better position to change the system, when I would say that legal experts, lawyers dealing with police brutality and police corruption, and professors of law and psychology are far more knowledgeable in the changes in organization and law required to \"fix\" the policing problem in the United States.\n\nNo, I do not have the ability or power to change the system, and becoming a police officer would probably only create more disdain for the police than I already have.\n\nThere are many, many educated people out there trying to change the system now, and there are many, many police unions and organizers trying to preserve it for themselves.\n\nAn answer like \"if you don't like, go be a cop\" doesn't address the real problems, it only highlights the fact that many people don't know how to organize activism.", "That's not in question. It's about cops lying to you which they absolutely can and will do. If a uniformed police offcer gives you an order it's best to comply with the order. If they give a lawful order ,then not complying can lead to further charges as well. But to avoid confrontation with police it's best to have a lawyer mediate on your behalf for either surrendering yourself or questions about a warrant/ pending arrest.", ">Longman ran into the room during the fight and grabbed Breinholt's head while yelling, “You're about to die, my friend\" and fired his weapon, according to the video.\n\nWhat a savage 😂", "Nothing says you don't give a fuck like actually taking the time to type this out:\n\n>You can pretend I did if it makes you feel better, but I genuinely don't give a fuck about your dumbass ramblings. Which is why I'm blocking you :) Enjoy your sad life, loser!\n\nOoh what a burn. LOL Bet you'll read this too. Of course, the real baller move is to just ghost on idiots online without responding at all. But sure, Two-Ton-Paleboy had to say his piece.\n\nHave a nice life, I hope you grow into being a better person in the future.", "Agreed", "True that is another way to handle it. Either way I’m not resisting and filming it so I can sue them later", "Why do you think there needs to be a discussion before being put into cuffs?? \n\nCops not only don’t legally have to obligate you to have a discussion before the Cuffs come on, In fact the longer that you wait before you get the guy in cuffs, the more chance that it’s going violently.\n\nSo the cuffs have to go on first then we have a talk. Not the other way around. This is actually well-known fact (as well as many presidents set) that I don’t understand why you don’t get that?", "Lol", "I mean, he literally did. That's not excusing the actions of the officers, but they had a legitimate reason to detain and arrest him.", "The very finest of american cops, you guys are all getting penetrated by the rich.", "Of course he asked for a taser. He was resisting arrest. Would you rather they beat him with a nightstick to ensure compliance?", "Exactly, they would've been really nice, had the warrant paperwork right there, told you they were sorry to tell you the bad news, but there's a warrant for your arrest. Instead these fucking pigs just started escalating off the bat, \"Turn around. Give me your hands. You're being handcuffed.\" One thing I've started noticing in these escalation scenarios is that the cops start putting their hands on the subject immediately, and these aren't just head pats, they grab, squeeze, twist, and it is the body's natural reaction to twist and turn from painful or restrictive moves. Imagine, you check your case on your phone, you interpret it to say you're not being indicted, the cops call you down for trumped up reasons, and the first thing they do after you acknowledge who you are is start grabbing you and not telling you a damn thing. This whole situation is resolved instantly by being normal, pulling the paperwork out, do you recognize this case? You have a warrant, I'm sorry to say.", "I am not back-pedaling on anything. Trump started a trend of letting his own bullshit shine. This empowered those who most supported him and those who most opposed him to start airing their own bullshit and considering it as legitimate. I find this entire group abhorrent and most importantly, dangerous.\n\nFor a guy who tests as high on comprehension, you have a terrible assessment of how vaccines work. Your standardized test results are useless because they are not serving you where it matters.", "What about refusing to be handcuffed and physically scuffling with arresting officers is not* resisting arrest, according to you?", "Hard to pass judgement on the level of precaution attempting to be used without knowing what the warrant is actually for.", "You are still innocent AFTER being served a warrant up and until you are proven guilty in the court of law. I didn't see any court room footage here, did you? Warrants are used to detain people for questioning, even when they are innocent, if it is difficult to make them comply, when suspected of a crime. \n\nThis man was suspected of a crime and nothing more.\n\nTherefore. He was innocent at the time of this recording. Also, the research that all the know-it all's in this thread has concluded nothing, and I found nothing in the news about this, notably any kind of guilty verdict. Under the presumption of innocence, this man is innocent until it is PROVEN guilty. Can you prove they weren't just detaining him? Do you know what he is even charged with?\n\nHe is innocent by default, as I'm sure you know from the other 200 comments here reiterating that fact, which is why I call you a troll.\n\n\"The presumption of innocence is a legal principle that every person accused of any crime is considered innocent until proven guilty. Under the presumption of innocence, the legal burden of proof is thus on the prosecution, which must present compelling evidence to the trier of fact.\"", "!isbot <crushedcandycane>", "It depends on the news source. Some of them only air the bad to stoke the fires of their narrative", "Let's be real, we all know exactly why. A well-spoken white man in nicer clothes who looks like he has some money? They'd be politely calling him sir and apologizing for the confusion in 2 seconds. \n\nBlack man? Lucky he wasn't beaten to death right there.", "It's more than a bias though. Because on one hand, you're right. There's over 1 million uniformed police in this country. If each one only had one unique interaction with another person per day, that's 365 million interactions a year. And how many are like this? \n\nWell the odds are we'll never know, but it's likely in the tens or hundreds of thousands a year. Statistically speaking, a tiny amount. BUT.\n\nI probably have a couple thousand unique interactions with my customers a year, maybe more. If I ever treated a single one with that level of disrespect and cruelty I would be fired. If not legally prosecuted. While it may be that confirmation/selection biases make the problem seem larger than it is, even at the smaller scaler it IS at it is absolutely unconscionable that the very people our taxes pay for under the guise of protecting us are instead a threat to any of us that don't have the right skin color or income bracket. \n\nI would agree with you about the licensing but take it a step further. After all, prosecutors are often just as bad as cops in this regard, and its rare they face justice for their actions.\n\nNot only should the person lose their \"license\", but that loss would be absolutely permanent; you would be ineligible for pension or other benefits; you would be permanently ineligible for similar employment anywhere within the US at any level, and you would be required to pay damages to those your actions harmed. IN addition, you would lose any and all immunity from criminal prosecution related to the events that led to your dismissal. \n\nAnd even that's just a start. When you exist at that level of responsibility over society you should be held to a higher standard. minimum wage burger flippers at McDonald's are put under stronger scrutiny.", "Better than your mom’s rawhide pussy lips I’ll tell you that.", "Well I wouldn’t expect the pussy lips of a corpse to taste all that great. \n\nNice of you to admit that you favor both flavors. \n\nRun along now, don’t you have some pig slop to muck in?", "> Run along now, don’t you have some pig slop to muck in?\n\nLike I was sayin about your mom, it’s been a while, so no, no more pig sloppin.", "Right. \n\nSo it’s just straight bootlicking then.\n\nSubmissive Naïveté is bliss isn’t it?\n\nEdit: I win 😁", "No he is a schizophrenic male that has never been employed and lived with his Mother. He was probably not aiming for the shoes so he doesnt have pro level aim.", "It’s breaks my heart to know that you really believe the thoughts that you experience. Fuck us all.", "Everything I said is true, it happens all the time, it's a major part of street/thug culture.", "> But if they calmly explained that, he seemed like the person who would have been cool to go along with whatever.\n\nThey did calmly explain it. He was not cool. He did not go along with it. He physically resisted arrest because he did not believe their explanation.\n\nThis man got himself hurt because he does not agree with the law. Which says that the police can arrest you before they charge you with a crime or show you the warrant.\n\nAnd the reasons for that are obvious, because every moment he is not detained is another moment he could escape. I know you are thinking, \"no he couldn't; they are in a police station\" but the law isn't written to say \"except in police stations\".", "He took himself to a police station lol. And where are you getting he’s a flight risk?", "It works but it just adds to the problem of our water supply being inundated with pharmaceuticals. Our water treatment centers can't really do much about certain medications. I imagine that is why OP's girlfriend might want to properly dispose of it", "thats the quickest way to get fired and does not work.", "this is the most ignorant take holy shit.", "irrelevant to what happened in the video", "Yes", "It seems you don't understand what a warrant for arrest means.", "Did you not see the cop limping away? That's a workers comp claim.", "It is obvious that you don't.\n\nhttps://www.gibbslawfirm.com/faq/why-do-i-have-an-arrest-warrant/\n\nThats from a law firm, but they put it in layman's for guys like you. Search on page for \"guilty\" and read the paragraph of the 2nd result.", "https://www.borghardtlawfirm.com/news/2017/11/9/lessons-from-the-lawyer-dawg-case\n\nOne of the stupidest cases involving asking for a lawyer. They actually argued they couldn't tell if he was asking for a lawyer, dawg or was asking for a lawyer dog.", "The description of the video claims the detective lied to him that the charges were dropped in order to get him to come to the station.\n\nSo of course he was confused when they started arresting him. They should've just owned up to it and just say \"yeah we tricked ya\" and show him the warrant. Instead they had to rub the shit in his face because he was confused about what was going on.", "He was confused. He reacted a way any confused person would react. It's not like he tries to run away or hurt anyone. He literally just stood there with his hands up.\n\nThe police could've easily handled this without using force.", "better to let all the MAGA guys fill the positions?", "i'm interested to know what bigger problems you might have than your child eating trash narcotics", "The bigger problem is that if my parenting has led to my children being pill goblins they are probably going to burn my house down if I ever leave them alone. Hell, I would have to have the entire house wired with cameras and take turns sleeping in shifts with their mom(if she hasn't left already.) I'd probably just try and trick someone into adopting them.\n\nFortunately my real children are angels and I never worry about shit like that.", "Shoot man, literally lied to him to get him to show up at the station as per the description on this video", "You gotta be shitting me. He can say something like that & not only get away with it, but stay employed? How do you fix something like this?? :(", "Troll", "And disgusting", "What's disgusting? He called me some urban dictionary hood term, I didn't say it.", "People who defend thugs are trolls.", "If I've said it once I've said it 1000 times.\n\nThe number one priority in ever situation is to immediately gain compliance and control. It doesn't matter if they are in the right or wrong. They are trained to make you submit to their authority by any means necessary... then they'll work out the details of why you were detained/arrested/murdered after the fact. \n\nThis simple situation could have been avoided if the officers calmly showed him the warrant first and listened to his plea about not being indicted a day after the date on the warrant. He wasn't being aggressive or non compliant. \n\nPathetic.", "Well at least you admit that defending thug cops like these makes you a troll anyway", "The cops did the best job they could with this clown.", "If that’s the best they can do, they’re lousy cops. Keep defending the real scumbags", "He called you a racist, which you are. Guess the truth is hard to stomach", "Nothing gay about this shit.\n\nThis is just abusing the authority they've been handed over without the baggage of responsibilities that should've come bundled with it.", "> This man got himself hurt because he does not agree with the law\n\nImagine watching this video with a sane mind and writing this statement.", "\"I wouldn't lie to you\" bullshit, you did in the video", "Whether you like it or not, the police can arrest you without showing you the warrant. There doesn't even need to be a warrant; the police only need probable cause for an arrest.\n\nLearn the law, and it can prevent you from getting in a physical altercation with officers like this guy.", "That's something the article showed really well. They're not all ignorant, evil bad guys. Some are just the products of their surroundings.", "He took himself to the police station only because the cops called him and told that the warrant was mistakenly put on him and that they needed him there in person to clear it up. \n \nHe was a flight risk at the moment when he didn't show up to the police station when summoned by the initial warrant.", "What you say is true and I would like to apologize because I took issue with the statement that I quoted from you.\n\nI looked at that statement as justification rather than the obvious course of action the officer took because of what happened, doesn't matter if what he did was wrong.", "Some jumped up to stand up too. The bus driver and her sons are the heros here. Sadly they were so few. \n\nOne of humanities most insidious qualities is that we choose to denigration over salutation.", "Yeah. The dude already had an arrest warrant that was issued by a FEDERAL judge. That is why they could, as the site you linked says, \"arrest him on site.\"", "And thats also why, as the site clearly states, he is still INNOCENT at the time of arrest. Being under arrest does NOT make you automatically guilty.", "The thug resisting arrest deserves much worse. His parents should be ashamed, if they even care at all.", "Nah, it involves thuggishness, nothing to do with race.", "Yeah, & if I was the abusive cop’s parent I’d be ashamed. But his parents are probably obnoxious bigots too, so I imagine they don’t care either", "You’re also the one who said “Hit me with your common tongue, I can read the urban dictionary”. So if you’re not a racist, you probably stop saying racist shit", "He shoved a paper in his face for a second, boo fucking hoo. After the guy caused absolute chaos resisting, which people like you completely ignore. All that resisting: you sleep. Paper in face: real shit??\n\nClowns, the bunch of you.", "Why do you think urban dictionary even exists lol. Is the site racist too?", "Actually, he asked to see the warrant & they refused to show it to him. And I imagine he resisted because if they’ll disrespect & shove a paper in your face like you’re trash with witnesses, he knows exactly what’ll happen once he’s cuffed & out of sight. If you wanna talk like a racist pos & defend lousy, abusive cops, that’s your choice of course. Just stop whining & bitching when people tell you how disgusting you sound, clown. Own it or stfu", "Your complaining about a paper being shoved in a thugs face accusing me of whining bahaha\n\nAfter all that resisting, all he got was a paper shoved in his face that they were trying to show him the whole time, so nice little bullshit story about stuff happening behind closed doors which isn't even true at all. Poor, poor thugs.", "Yeah but they still are required to arrest him. That's what an arrest warrant is. You get that, right?", "Whatever let’s you sleep at night, bigot. And you can go ahead & keep digging yourself a deeper hole, but I’m nauseous enough without continuing a pointless conversation with someone so obviously prejudiced & worshipful of law enforcement- no matter what laws they break themselves or abuse they hand out. You’re exactly what’s wrong with this country, & I look forward to a day when people who think the way you do go back to their holes & basement KKK meetings", "Why do you like thugs so much?", "I don’t, that’s why I told you to piss off", "If I'm a thug, shouldn't you be making up excuses to defend me?", "That is beside the point entirely.", "He's still an innocent man.", "And that's beside the point entirely, lol", "Suspended for one day, what a joke. Also I love how they said \"we wouldn't lie to you\" when the entire pretense of him showing up to the PD was a lie", "Got it you lick boots. And cops are shit everywhere especially here", "Uhh im pretty sure more cops die to accidents and covid then criminals. They have a cushy ass job....", "It's like I said \"apples are red\" and then you say \"apples are blue\" and then I prove that apples are red and you go \"what's that have to do with blue apples?\"\n\nThe man is innocent, period. Having a warrant doesn't make him guilty, period. There is nothing left to discuss. Go away troll.", "Dave Chappelle did the perfect sketch on this:\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeOVbeh2yr0", "I never said he was guilty. But we can agree that he has an arrest warrant, right? And that warrant authorizes police to arrest him, right?\n\nEdit: lmao, I'm so sorry friend. I went back and re-read all of this nonsense. Yes, I did say \"he was guilty\" at the beginning. That was in error. I didn't mean that he had been found guilty in a court of law but rather that there was a reason for him to be detained because he had a warrant. As in he had a reason to be arrested. Sorry for the confusion! ❤️", "Yeah I don't dispute the warrant. There may have been reason or may not. All I ever said was that he's innocent and uncensored.", "I was kinda just low level trolling. Posts like this make me angry and imagining cops as all angry closeted homosexuals made me feel a bit better.\n\nNot helpful, I know", "lolollol ty.", "What a bunch of pussies with no accountability.", "They're masters at exploiting loopholes in the law", "That's alright, hard to control that temper at times.", "So why didnt the warrant show up when he checked himself?", "It's not too hard to say something more intelligent, not that you would notice.", "fair point", "now do the cops' perspective", "Do what we say or be smashed to the ground. \n\nYou're not doing as we say, therefore you're a threat, and now we get to relive all the aggression and angst we've seen in cinema and video games for decades.\n\n...\n\nPolice abuse, is the one area where I'd somewhat blame games and media for normalizing violence, and subtly inspiring these cops to be more harsh than needed.\n\nThis is why i'm somewhat inline with defund the police, but only in using those funds for community outreach and counselors, that can calmly discuss things, instead of leaping to the most aggressive behavior.\n\nAlso why utilizing veterans who are psychologically sound, and repulsed by the violence of war zones, to remind their fellow officers, to de-escalate as a form of protection.", "Normalizing violence while not truly experiencing the horrors of that violence, numbs us to reality, while we train ourselves on what to do in these unrealistic situations.", "Yes, because most of us dont have jobs that include violence similar to these games, and so it's an outlet for pent up angst and energies.\n\nFor someone who has a job that involves these themes, it's like a sniper being trained to sit and wait for order, while holding objects in their sites regularly. Eventually it's going to be difficult to resist the urge to follow through with the thing you've been imagining for hours on end.\n\nThere arent popular games that focus on de-escalating situations, they all focus on ever more damage and destruction.", "He didn't ask though he SHOW ME THE PAPER\n\nSHOW ME\n\nSHOW ME\n\nwhile resisting arrest.\n\nA very understandable response to 🤡 here's your fucking paper 🤡 for half a second.\n\nPretty sure grocery workers don't have to arrest or even deal with customers so that is a terrible comparison.", "Did you even watch the video? One he wasnt resisting, he had his hands up the whole time and was just standing still asking for the warrant, until the police started tackling him to the ground while he was peaceably standing with his hands up.Thats not resisting, despite how police try to spin it by screaming stop resisting while he is stating he isnt resisting and remaining still. Standing is not resisting. Secondly, saying its understandable to do something that I am stating is not only NOT understandable but is totally unprofessional, is not in any way an argument that it's okay to act like a thug towards a man who is presumed innocent until proven guilty in court AND is asking for the warrant in accordance with the LAW the police are pretending to uphold. Unless you think that dealing with people who you think MIGHT have broken the law gives you free pass to break the law? While i may not be arresting people, arguing that because they arrest people they should be able to skip the protections put in place to protect people being arrested is the real 🤡, if the people arresting dont have to follow the laws regarding arresting people, who does? Like, ive had people threaten to shoot me, and others, in my store, and i didnt shoot anyone and managed to diffuse the situation without violence. This man was calmly asking for proof before potentially losing months of his life to the court system if found innocent and years to the prison system if found guilty, which is the ACTUAL reasonable thing to do. Again, all youve shown is that the cops are acting poorly, and the only argument that can be made to defend them, that he was resisting, is plainly false. Dudes rights were violated. Period. The officer deserved more than a day. Arguing that the people who enforce the law shouldnt be beholden to the law is just silly, even if they are REALLY MAD that someone is belligerant. The police are supposed to be held to a higher standard, not a lower one.\n\nEdit to add, the proof of burden is on the police to show due cause for arrest, not on him to show innocence. He isnt obligated to put on a top hat and cheerfully ask \"i say my good sir, what might be the perplexing situation that has caused you to accost my person?\", \"show me\" is 100% an appropriate responce to someone trying to take years of your life and refusing repeatedly initally to prove they even have a reason, until he had asked multiple times. The law is first time, not 2nd, not 8th, and not only when asked politely.\nAnd did you seriously say grocery store workers dont deal with customers? I dont know where you shop but you literally cant shop without a worker to check you out bare minimum, so youre clearly talking out your rear. Next youll say firefighters dont deal with fires and taxi drivers dont drive." ]	921	videos	Detective gets suspended after rubbing a warrant in a suspect’s face
https://youtu.be/VHmfTV-abRU	/r/videos/comments/rbftpe/interesting_video_where_a_nyt_reporter_strongly/	[ "Very interesting.", "Right? I like that she is speaking her mind! She seems pretty passionate and makes some valid points.", "Oh Johnny boy. Damn that hard days night point was wild. And lol at yoko during the last bit", "Lol.", "yoko spewing some nonsense of course", "Hahaha oh Yoko. \"But the last point was a good point.\" That's right, Yoko, sure it was.", "As does he. It’s nice to see these kind of interactions with superstars. Reminds me of that Bob Dylan encounter where he’s kind of being an asshole to someone. \n\nhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4xF2Kv6LO1s", "Why do i get a very amphetamine vibe with this video? lol", "[I nominate Henry Rollins as well for douche interviews. ](https://youtu.be/o-xMkHgan0Y)", "Yes, love that clip. Even though it is def kind of cringe (I feel bad for the guy). Almost reminds me of Lou Reeds rude interview: https://youtu.be/TNxG7JnO1oA but that’s uncomfortable for a whole other reason.", "This interview was with Gloria Emerson in 1969. \n\nShe was 27 years old and living in Saigon in 1956 when she first started writing for the New York Times as a freelancer. She then returned to the States to write for the Times’s “women’s page”, but she quit after three years to marry and move to Europe. In 1964 she was divorced and living in Paris when the Times rehired her to write about women’s fashion. She transferred to the London bureau and started covering The Troubles in Northern Ireland. She would later be a war correspondent in Vietnam, embedded with the U.S. Marines. \n\nEmerson believed that John Lennon could have more effectively fought against the war by, for example, going to Vietnam and performing for U.S. soldiers there, rather than performing for protestors who were already against it. \n\nIn 2004, at the age of 75, she was diagnosed with Parkinson’s disease. Fearing she would lose the ability to write, Emerson wrote her own obituary and then committed suicide.", "Remember when all those celebrities got on zoom and sang imagine at us. Apparently we could just smile covid away and we threw away the chance.", "Omg I almost wish I didn’t watch that… lol. Plus I didn’t know who Henry Rollins is, must be out of the loop?", "Omg that is so sad (about the suicide)!!! Thanks for the background info.", "Yeah… that took a turn. \n\nIt’s interesting because when I watched the video for the first time, I thought she was some out-of-touch, old-fashioned woman attacking John Lennon for being a hippie. But watching it again, knowing she had lived in Vietnam and would soon go back to be a war correspondent, and knowing now that she also was very much against the war, and that her complaint was John Lennon wasn’t going far enough… it really changes your whole perspective.", "He was the singer in a hardcore punk band called Black Flag for a period.\nIn his 50s he ended up becoming a TV presenter on some show I think and this made him somewhat relevant again for a while. I could only ever remember this cursed interview every time he talked lol", "Well her points are true about his being a superstar and so far and disconnected from what is going on really rung true to me", "Damn that was so harsh. I hate when celebrities do that to people. It’s so humiliating!!! Just watched another clip of him roasting a woman in a record shop. Damn he’s kind of reckless to people. \n\nThat Henry Rollins interview reminds me of never shout never interview with Brian stars lol \nhttps://youtu.be/kTj0jj75rY4", "In their own nether nether world lol 😂", "Yoko was talking nonsense but this is such a shit comparison.", "No you have to fast forward to like half the video. I was just referencing if you don’t have to watch it. But yeah. Does Henry Rollins ever address that he used to be an asshole? Lol", "so much was conveyed in that simple statement", "Lennon can barely get a word in without shouting because she keeps interrupting him...", "Like what exactly good point did he make because I didn't see any.", "very interesting. they both make good points but that reporter shouldn't have been on that story", "Now let's talk about being humble\n\n \n\n\nMr. L: No.", "A testament to how bad huge swathes of us are at communicating. From this clip I'd say they both had valid points to make, but couldn't stay calm enough to ask clarifying questions of the other, to calmly tell why they disagreed and then summarise.\n\nIt does seem like the reporter sees John and Yoko as publicity machines, jumping on the protests to make money and notoriety whereas John and Yoko see themselves as artists adding to a cause they believed in. \n\nI think they're both right. Problem was, the reporter didn't respect John's \"mission\" but rather than patiently challenging him and asking questions, she gets angry and clearly shows utter contempt towards him at the end. It's a shame, as I would love to see someone who has the intelligence and experience she has, truly challenge someone like John who is mostly ego to put his ego aside and see the bigger picture. \n\nSo many of our cultural influencers are egocentric. I very rarely see someone who can challenge them and tame the ego long enough to get a point across.", "God Brian Stars is a shitty interviewer. He was asking questions that a 5 year old would ask.", "Have you seen the Billy Bob Thornton [interview](https://youtu.be/IJWS6qyy7bw)", "given his history, he no doubt wants to sock her in the .outh", "I don't think that's sad. 75 is a full life for many, and Parkinson's is a hideous condition to live with. There's nothing wrong with ending your life on your terms.", "Yoko makes a great point at around 1:50 in [this video](https://youtu.be/ZbGuxGGOIV0)", "Jfc I knew he was a crappy father and generally considered an asshole but I didn't realize he was such a flaming-cheeto egomaniac.", "Honestly I don't think it's that sad. 75 years old is a decent age and living with Parkinson's is absolutely hell. I honestly consider it to be euthanasia.", "Is that when a reporter asked him why does he sound so much like Dewey Cox?", "That woman looks like a living Quentin Blake illustration", "I prefer Chuck's counterpoint's. Both of 'em", "Gloria Emerson had nerves of steel. I can’t imagine being diagnosed with a debilitating disease like that and having the wits about me to write my fucking obituary and commit suicide. \n\nI’m glad she gave Lennon a hard time. He sounds so tone deaf and full of himself here. I love The Beatles but god, he could be an insufferable prick.\n\nEdited for those that got butthurt.", "He's addressed it quite a few times, [here's one where he talks about the interview.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqtXJCRXMOY) Basically at that point the band was on tour having truckloads of bullshit about selling out thrown at them from the punk kind of base over them evolving their sound which pissed him off, and he took the kids intentions and questioning the wrong way and took it out on him and he regrets it.\n\nEither way that video doesn't define his entire life and personality, he was a pretty 'intense' person for a long time but not in a mean way. And over the decades he's certainly mellowed out a lot and is quite happy to laugh at himself. Honestly I've always thought he seems like a pretty cool guy.", "Thank you, I'd never seen/heard that clip before. Appreciated", " She \"said at the time—and repeated decades later—that she believed he and the band \"could have stopped the war\" had they performed for U.S. troops in Vietnam.\" from her wiki page. \n\nI don’t know about you, but north vietnam couldn't give less of a fuck about him, they wanted to reunite the country under Viet Minh rule. it wouldn't have mattered ,with or without him performing, There was no stopping that war ( even with U.S. troops withdrawing ).", "Henry Rollins was such a well-articulated ball of chaos. He's refined that into something very incredible though.", "He's honestly a pretty fascinating man, who seems to have a pretty endless well of energy, which I think was often directionless in his youth. These days Rollins is a pretty poignant writer and activist with fingers in pretty much every media pie there is. He did a really excellent interview on Hot Ones if you want something much more palatable and interesting.", "Only thing needed to end the war was US getting out. War stopped after US withdrew. South was not able to fight alone.", "I don't think the suicide is sad, I think it's powerful.\n\nShe lived an amazing full life, and she went out (somewhat) on her own terms before she lost what meant most to her about herself.\n\nI'd like to think I'd do the same before I let my mind deteriorate into something that isn't recognizably me anymore.", ">Emerson believed that John Lennon could have more effectively fought against the war by, for example, going to Vietnam and performing for U.S. soldiers there, rather than performing for protestors who were already against it.\n\nShe was so wrong.", "I mean the south was a western puppet. Puppets do not do much without their puppet master.", "> steel vagina\n\nAwful. Maybe next time time try 'ironclad ovaries'.", "if you've deteriorated to that point would you even have the presence of mind to do so?", "Here come the woke police to regulate speech again 👀", "he admitted to taking steroids and working out at that time to defend from the aggression he was receiving from audiences so it's possible he wasn't quite right in the head at the time", "why the downvotes? people hate the truth lol", "well those attributes tend to go hand in hand no?", "Probably not, that's why I said I'd hopefully do it before that happened.", "Of course she is right about John being privileged and insulated, and probably he could indeed have done something more effective, but what he \\did\\ do was widely publicized, and absolutely altered public opinion. For better or worse. Perhaps one could see his actions in the copy/paste internet activism of today. But at the same time, making the idea of peace more accessible to people has absolutely shifted the Overton window against war, I think.", "Sad that she died, yes. But I think after reading this short paragraph about her life it suits her. She doesn't seem to was a person who waited for fate to happen rather someone who had a strong will and knew what she wanted to do and be.", "Why?", "The interviewer reminded me so much of the [Brainy Gremlin from Gremlis 2.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAUAA8jkF4k) The classic mid-atlantic accent.", "She had been to Vietnam, I can imagine that reality must have contrasted quite sharply against two pampered stars laying in bed getting their pictures taken. And she's right. But so are they.", "God I'll never understand that woman. The fuck did she do stuff like that for?", "“When you’re happy and you’re smiling you don’t want to kill somebody do you?”. She’s obviously never met a marine", "Hey, it's this guy! https://www.theonion.com/man-always-gets-little-rush-out-of-telling-people-john-1819578998", "He didn't save any lives doing what he did. He did, however, abuse his former partners and also made fun of people with mental disabilities. So, all in all, not the nicest person to have ever lived. Or died, for that matter.", "Lennon's song \"Imagine\" was based on Yoko's earlier work.\n\nSure, it may be nonsense, but she does have merit as an artist.\n\nPeople like to shit on Yoko, it's really easy, but it's not always justified.", "> A testament to how bad huge swathes of us are at communicating.\n\nVery true. And they're not stupid people, but they simply never learnt how to communicate properly.\n\nThere's this technique called [non-violent communication](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonviolent_Communication) which is really useful. The problem is that once you know how to use it, it's quite easy to misuse, and influence people who don't know how it works. It can also become tiresome interacting with people who don't know how to communicate productively.\n\nAlso, you kind of speed through getting to know someone. The result can be you finding out you don't actually like them. Sure, that can be useful, but given we're all a bit shit, I sometimes wonder if that's a good thing. I've had perfectly nice friendships with male friends, where we didn't really communicate much at all. Just being able to do stuff together was nice, so we both felt a bit less alone.", "[Nonviolent Communication](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonviolent_Communication) \n \n >Nonviolent communication (abbreviated NVC, also called compassionate communication or collaborative communication) is an approach to communication based on principles of nonviolence. It is not a technique to end disagreements, but rather a method designed to increase empathy and improve the quality of life of those who utilize the method and the people around them. Nonviolent communication evolved from concepts used in person-centered therapy, and was developed by clinical psychologist Marshall Rosenberg beginning in the 1960s and 1970s. There is a large ecosystem of workshops and clinical and self-help materials about NVC.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( \| )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( \| )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( \| )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove \| v1.5)", ">Gloria Emerson had a steel vagina\n\nCringe", "I agree, performing for the military in an embattled country is a strong sign of support, not one of protest. It's not like enlisted men can have a say about their mission anyways. If any change was going to happen it had to come from the political side.", "Henry Rollins is ok but he's well known for being kind of an egotistical prick. This song is tongue in cheek.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/K6eZnMYuVTQ\n\nHere's an old interview of him being kind of a dick to Nardwuar but eventually lightening up. It's a fun interview.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/Rt8i4lStIxg", "Trying to understand her is like trying to understand just how much infinity is.", "Performance artist. Or just a mental tick, or something.\n\nA lot of artists do \"random\" things, and don't address it directly. And performance art can be anything.", "I would say that she was conveying her point realistically. \n\n\nJohn Lennon having the ego to claim he \"saves lives\" is as absurd as a taco bell employee saying that their taco prevents suicide. In that way, everyone who creates saves lives.", "And more shill videos about the beatles trying to hype some movie...", ">performing for the military in an embattled country is a strong sign of support, not one of protest.\n\nNot for the objective but for the soldiers in that position. Conversely, an open mic open to thousands of those soldiers with someone that they willingly would want to hear from would give him the ability to voice opinions about the war that they wouldn't otherwise hear.", "all i got to know is one person is arguing with yoko and one is agreeing.", "i think it's hyperbole to say he could've ended the war but if he had gone and performed for the troops and said fuck this war give peace a chance it would've demoralized the staff officers just a little bit more which does trickle up to the political class.", "I knew what she meant very clearly.", "Should’ve responded at the time that the NYT were one of the first papers to praise Hitler and his movement thanks to Cyril Brown. I think the NYT have since tried to remove the article from their site.\n\n[Article about it here ](https://www.vox.com/2015/2/11/8016017/ny-times-hitler)", "She did what she wanted to do, and then left on her own terms, and kept her dignity.", "NEW ORLEANS—Explaining that casually dropping the little-known fact into conversations “never gets old,” local man Derek Matheson told reporters Monday he always gets a bit of a rush from informing others that John Lennon physically abused his first wife, Cynthia Powell. “Seeing the looks of shock, disbelief, and sadness on people’s faces after I mention that John Lennon couldn’t control his rage and regularly hit women is just such a treat,” said Matheson, who reportedly derives a measure of satisfaction from planting discomfort in the minds of his acquaintances, coworkers, and even strangers at social gatherings by bringing up the biographical detail about the widely beloved musician and peace activist. “I’m always listening for someone to make a comment about the Beatles, and when it happens, I’m ready to jump in and say that not only did John Lennon beat his wife, but he beat his son, too, and that he even admitted to it on multiple occasions. It’s always a nice little thrill.” Matheson added that if people were already aware of the songwriter’s violent side, he also delights in stating that Matthew Broderick killed two women with his car.\n\nI love that you found the perfect onion article for this situation.\n\n‘I used to be cruel to my woman\nI beat her and kept her apart from the things that she loved\nMan, I was mean but I'm changing my scene\nAnd I'm doing the best that I can’", "Wars are waged by governments, institutions or principalities, not by people. Making people smile with a song doesn’t do jack shit to end wars. In fact, quite the opposite. Meaningless protests are like an opiate that makes the uninformed feel like they are making a difference when in fact they are not.", "Seems he's arguing his art influenced people to protest the war. The reporter seemed to think his art wasn't having an effect and yet protestors knew his song and chose to sing it in unison. Hard to say if they liked it because they're anti-war, or if they're anti-war because of the song/songs like it. Regardless, I'd say it's a pretty good point worth considering.\n\nHe also mentioned most people don't read the NYT - likely even less for the young people that actually fought in the war. It's kinda easy to point back at her and say she's not making a real impact either. Granted, maybe the demographic that reads the NYT also votes, so... who's to say, I guess.", "this reporter is a legend!!!", "he's getting TOLD. this woman is a legend!", "Idk, I've always heard basically any of my favorite bands all say how kids would write to them saying how their music saved their lives.\n\nAs someone that loves music I've never understood how it affects people like that, but I assume many people would've told the Beatles things like that as well.", "Yeah, I've seen people say that to streamers on twitch too via donations.\n\nMy point is that using it as a justification for what you do is asinine. Both of the people interviewed opposed the war but this lady has much more personal experience with the location and people where Lennon does not. Maybe she got a little too preachy", "She was a highly influential performance artist, even before she met John. Folks may or care for her work, but she was well known.", "Yoko Ono \"has merit as an artist.\" Oh my. I can honestly say that I've considered her work carefully and with an open mind, and I see more artistic merit in paintings of dogs playing poker and the graffiti in the men's room stalls of a truck stop. John Lennon inexplicably held her out to the public as a brilliant artist and relevant musician and he did so with dogged persistence despite the mountains of evidence to the contrary. I'm puzzled why a man of such singular talent could not recognize that she had absolutely none whatsoever. Yoko Ono, of course, is not an artist or musician. She never has been and she never will be. She's an itchy mosquito bite on your ankle, a smear of tomato sauce on your dress shirt, an irritating telemarketer who calls you during dinner to peddle turds and tumors. Still, I acknowledge that she's entitled to her absurd delusions of grandeur and people like you and her late husband have, for some reason, always been willing to happily fuel her astonishing lack of self-awareness with your misguided praises. I do give her credit for something, though: Her shameless ride on her husband's coattails has been an extraordinarily lucrative journey for her, so I applaud her business acumen. John Lennon, however, was an unforgivably obtuse, arrogant and tone deaf boob for foisting that specimen on the culture. I love The Beatles and I reject the notion that she broke them up, but there are plenty of other reasons to dismiss her as the buzzing housefly that she truly is.", "The heck is going on with Reddit today. 4th post so far I see about The Beatles", "Diamond Vulva.", "C'mon, don't hold back -- tell us what your opinion REALLY is about Yoko...\n\nHave an upvote, it brought a smile to my cold, early, December morning.", "That kid held his composure and made Henry Rollins work hard to try and dominate and still fail. Well done, kid with funny hair.", "As soon as Yoko starts talking, John needs another cigarette so this video is relatable.", "I agree. Watching get back I don't understand this odd woman who says nearly nothing ever could be so enticing to john. On the contrary Linda seemed charming", "All you need is Siri app to remind you when it is time to suicide. (sorry if this is to dark of joke)", "well he is john lennon. Imagine a 10th of beatles fame would screw you up- me too, I think thats what massive massive fame does... makes you think youre important.", "\"nyt reporter\"\n\nit's gloria emerson, and she did more for peace than a pop star could ever imagine. \n\nfucking celebrity worship is absurd", "At the same time he should probably have made more room in his mind to listen to a war correspondent who spent time on the ground embedded with troops.\n\nWar correspondents are usually kept relatively safe but nonetheless they spend time close up with the people we task with executing wars. If they're passionate, they strike up conversations and learn what it's like to be the person who gets called to war at someone else's behest.\n\nSomeone who wants to end war should be open to a lesson from someone who has spent time learning a bit about what it is like to be the person who has to wage it.\n\nJohn in his later years seems to exude this idea that if you are speaking to him, he is automatically better than you are... something that I don't doubt was encouraged by Yoko. This is exactly the frame of mind a person adopts to quickly know nothing about the world around them anymore. They progress to a post-curiosity, post-learning phase of hardened and intransigent ignorance because they think they've learned all that there is to learn, and will never need to learn anything ever again.\n\nThat is exactly the mind of a person who will send thousands to die because they forgot where a border was drawn on a map and refuse to listen to anyone telling them otherwise.", "yawn, his voice was heard in the echo chamber of all the wimps who grew up with the beatles and \"changed their image\" along with them, and that's it.\n\ncelebrities with their idea that they're \"spreading the message\" has lead to the constant bending over of have-nots by the haves.", "you didn't realize the guy who said the beatles were bigger than jesus was an egomaniac? k", "the fuck are you talking about? the article says nothing about praise, and claims that hilter's anti-semitism was a ploy to pander for votes.\n\nyou should have mentioned that at the time hitler's full extent wasn't realized, and that article is evidence of it.\n\nBut imagine you thinking the new york times is anti-semitic, holy shit LOL", "The Beatles are flooding the world again since everyone just finished watching Get Back and is going down the rabbit hole once more. The cycle has come around. It’s Beatlesmania time again.", "Super sad. But she sounds like a bad ass that lived life on her own terms.", "Feck", "Imagine was largely inspired by Yoko Ono's Grapefruit. She was a recognized artist in her own right, before she met Lennon.\n\nOf course, that doesn't mean she didn't ride Lennon's coattails. She would never have become genuinely famous without him.", "He also got into acting, including a role in one of my all-time favorite films, Heat.", "I don’t imagine or think the NYT are anti-Semitic at all. My point being is neither Lennon or NYT have made much impact on deterring wars. That being said if you look at NYTs history of reporting war, they’ve [downplayed the holocaust.](https://youtu.be/Q2PQCNQH2lY) and failed to vet [Judith Millers articles on the Iraq War](https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.2968/060004013). We all make mistakes but influential sources must be held to account.", "I would love for journalists to challenge musicians and actors like this nowadays. Just doesn't happen. Most things are corporate puff pieces.", "because Vietnam ended due to public opinion changing on it, not because soldiers wanted to stop dying.", "He's a [liar.](https://youtu.be/awY1MRlMKMc)", "Interesting heated discussion, until Yoko chimes in with the worst take ever on why war exists and proves the interviewers point that until then John had at least some sensible responses to ...", "You gotta share [Bill Burr's take on this](https://youtu.be/9SGV3ctLlu4)", "I worship John Lennon for his music, not his efficacy in following through on his political ideals.", "She never really sought wider \"fame\", as it was though. It's not like she's was attempting to make work accessible to the larger masses before John.", "I really like Yoko’s art. She was incredibly influential within the 1960s avant-garde scene in New York, and she not only created a few brilliant works but also facilitated the creation of several influential works by hosting a collaborative concert series in her apartment in 1960. Granted, the general public likely will dislike the music and art that came of this scene as a whole, Yoko has just been thrust into the public eye because of her connection with John. Other musicians and artists of the time (George Maciunas, La Monte Young, Nam June Paik, Allison Knowles, Dick Higgins, Charlotte Moorman…) all deserve a look as well.", ">celebrities with their idea that they're \"spreading the message\" has lead to the constant bending over of have-nots by the haves.\n\nat what point in history have the wealthy not \"bent over\" the poor?", "cause it's an ad hominem and has been address by lennon directly", "It’s a genuinely interesting video that a lot of people haven’t seen. Sheesh; who took a shit in your cornflakes.", "Yoko proving once again that she can absorb all the stupid out of any situation and blurt it out", "I didn’t watch because I’m content thinking that every time the reported starts to make a counter argument, Yoko just starts making random noises over what the reporter is trying to say.", "No, people don't hate the truth. Literally every single person knows that truth already, yet people think they're hot shit for telling people at every possible opportunity. The reason people know John beat his wife is because he admitted it himself. He was a shitty angry person particularly when he was young. We all know this. But yeah bro... it's because we hate the truth", "All that being said (and true), one thing that bothers me immensely is the way she kept interrupting and talking over them.\n\nSo at that point you're not interviewing, you're doing a shouting match where you're trying to drive your point across by being the loudest.\n\nI don't know, it might be because my wife does it all the time but that shit really triggers me and I would have just walked out.", "i need them to both yell \"Shut up YOKO!' at the same time.", "Attention. Narcissists often do stupid nonsense to get attention. But Yoko is in a unique position, where a lot of gullible and pretentious people have been duped into thinking her attention-seeking stupid nonsense is actually art.", "John was surprisingly calm through it, I thought. \n\nI would have seen blood and be yelling back in 2 minutes.", "It's frustrating when people get entrenched in their specific perspective they can't realise that a solution isn't going to come solely from one side. Paul and Yoko's sanctimonious 'mission' for peace is childish and arrogant, but it could win minds. The reporter seems grounded and wanted a more pragmatic approach to activism, this could be seen as synical and overly-serious. Why can't both these strategies work in tangent?", "Yes, Lamonte young is amazing", "> Emerson believed that John Lennon could have more effectively fought against the war by, for example, going to Vietnam and performing for U.S. soldiers there, rather than performing for protestors who were already against it. \n\n\nWhat a fuckin weird position.", "it would have been even more of a useless gesture. the \"political class\" doesn't care what performers on USO trips say", "\"I've grown up\"\n\n\"And what did you grow up to?\"\n\n\"About 29.\"", "Dumb ass Keiko.", "She went the way she wanted, nothing sad about that. People deserve dignity in death.", "Agreed. The one thing that he could have done was had a concert for troops that had come home, in protest of the war, but as he stated on numerous occasions, he wasn't even allowed in the US, at that time. Going to Vietnam and attending/putting on a show makes him more Toby Keith than active protester. \n\nIronically, he might still be alive today, had the US continued to deny him extended entry/residency.", "I like the Beatles sure, and see occasional clips of them. \n\nWhy is Yoko Ono always lurking around them?, did she ever contribute in a my good way?? \n\nNot once have I seen her add anything worthwhile. In this vid and specially in that Chuck Berry colab sheesh", "Ironic that johns killer did that", "Should I kill myself, or have some Taco Bell?\n\n- Albert Camus", "Yoko, shut the fuck up.", "There's zero benefit in telling the soldiers that war is bad. None.\n\nAside from the fact that they're living it and already know that, they have nothing to do with it. They enlisted, they're effectively trapped. They don't make decisions about who's fighting when and why. They can't put down their guns and refuse to fight because they're getting shot at. They can't protest without being court martialed and effectively having their lives ruined as a result.\n\nGoing and singing for the troops might keep their morale up. That's all fine and dandy, but there's absolutely no way to turn that into any sort of effective protest.", "For what it's worth he's mellowed out a fair bit since then:\n\n[Painting](https://youtu.be/-xLq1hSJYiI)\n\n[Hot Ones](https://youtu.be/ldm8mnn-ULI)", "She was dropping some bars at the end. \"(Most)People don't smile when they're killing.\"", "Controversial take but I don't think suicide is powerful\n\nI understand why fear of quality of life deterioration or pain causes people to want to do it\n\nBut I don't think there's a single thing beautiful about suicide", "You can tell she gets flustered when he points out the fascist nature of the UK and US", "She would top off John something fierce is basically it.", "I’m sorry but she is absolutely the tone deaf one here. She wanted him to go play for the troops in Vietnam. The literal opposite of protesting the war.", "Not too dark, just not funny enough", "She’s extremely rude and is grasping to make the person who is solely responsible for the peace movement’s success and cementation in both history and pop culture look dumb. In reality, she’s advocating for him to go play for the troops in Vietnam. She truly thought that was going to end the war. That’s, uh, moronic at best", "My dog ate a Christmas ornament.", "To be fair, Yoko Ono lived through the Tokyo fire bombings of WWII as a child/young teenager and the subsequent famine in Japan caused by the war. So she was also someone who knew firsthand the destruction of war.", "That is not what opposite means", "Playing for the troops is a support of the troops and, unless you’re willfully stupid, support of the war. \n\nHow is that not the opposite of protesting the war their big fella?", "Titanium Tits would work much better. It's about having an indestructible pair of exposed sensitive globes, not reproduction organs.", "Remember kids, it’s not wrong if you admit to doing it.", "Of course soldiers know war is bad. Non combatants know war is bad. There is nary a human on earth that doesn't know this.\n\n>Going and singing for the troops might keep their morale up. That's all fine and dandy, but there's absolutely no way to turn that into any sort of effective protest.\n\nBeing on stage, in the war zone, speaking honestly to those enlisted can be the effective protest. Telling them how the war is being perceived at home, information about the war that they don't have access too; it may not change their experience but it can led to change. Telling extended family and friends not to enlist, having families and communities put pressure on the government.", "People can’t disagree like this any more. Ever since the “block” option became available, people are more willing than ever before to drop a conversation and leave on a dime when they feel vulnerable.\n\nThis is a generalization, clearly, but you get it.", "She was very wrong about the impact he had and could have had.", "What a bunch of crap. She is incredibly talented. She was an established artist before she met John.\n\nThe Beatles ruined Yoko Ono.", "If people actually bothered to listen to what she says they would see she is much brighter than John.", "> Telling extended family and friends not to enlist\n\nAt that time it was quite likely any given troop didn't enlist; they were drafted.", "If their message is peace, how would playing to troops be supporting war?", "John wanted her around. She was his anchor in a high profile life. He said many times she saved him from a complete nervous breakdown that would have ruined his life.", "Well, two things, I don't think that's even remotely a controversial take. The prevailing mindset is that suicide is bad. Full stop. \n\nOtherwise, assisted suicide wouldn't be illegal most places.\n\n\nBut second, I don't mean this rudely, but you obviously never had to watch someone you love and care for deeply waste away and become a shell of who they once were.\n\nDoesn't mean everyone should commit suicide in those situations, but there's definitely a bravery in going out on your own terms when there is no light at the end of the tunnel, only the ever expanding darkness.", "Those troops didn't pick to go there, supporting them doesn't support the war, to what extent playing protest songs to them is even considered support.", "Valid!", "I would say Vietnam is probably the worst war to try to make that point with. Vietnam was probably the first US war where the government lost the support of its population. Musicians and other pop culture icons definitely had a hand in the turning or public opinion, which contributed to the US scale-back and eventual withdrawal.", "Nah, it's narcissistic and cowardly, like most suicides. \n\n2004 wasn't that long ago. We've had voice to text programs for over a decade and now they work incredibly well. She could still continue to write by dictation or other technologies that existed and would have improved within her lifetime. Fucking Steven Hawking wrote books, ffs. \n\nShe was afraid, so she took the easy way out. That's not powerful. That's pitiful.", "Yep", "Eh, 75 with impending mental and physical failures, I'd say she was lucky she got to choose her way out, and good on her.", "Well she responds with the US is a good place to live right now. Lol that must have been a different time than now bc idk if I agree with that", "Telling troops fighting a war that war is bad is fucking retarded. They know. They’re living it. The fact that you’re saying this about the Vietnam war of all tells me you don’t understand the basic optics at play. \n\nGoing to play in Vietnam would have absolutely destroyed everything Lennon was trying to accomplish. Who the fuck are you morons?", "You are on a completely different level of ignorance and stupidity that is not worth engaging with", "Yoko didn’t give John that personality. He was always the most smug of the four and treated most interviews like a joke.", "There's a doc on Netflix I think about John and yoko too.", "Yes, I know. A family member had his number called in the Draft Lottery and went through Puckapunyal here in Australia. \nI have read stories of family members enlisting following in the footsteps of a sibling serving and there being a huge dichotomy between what was being reported at home versus in country. \nIn fairness, this may have applied more to both world wars versus Vietnam.", "Remember kids, don't even bother attempting to change yourself for the better. It'll never stop people bringing up your mistakes in pursuit of fake internet points.", "Beatles fans ruined Yoko", "Yep. Not be afraid of having different opinions AND being vocal about it", "Well, that's your opinion.\n\nSome people see it differently.", "Of course it's my opinion, lol.", "Yeah but her argument was he could have done it differently.", "> Well, two things, I don't think that's even remotely a controversial take. The prevailing mindset is that suicide is bad. Full stop.\n\n\"Suicide is bad\" is a relatively controversial take here on Reddit. Not in the real world, sure, but Redditors are a different type.\n\n> But second, I don't mean this rudely, but you obviously never had to watch someone you love and care for deeply waste away and become a shell of who they once were.\n\nI have. It's terrible, but I still don't think suicide is a solution.\n\n> Doesn't mean everyone should commit suicide in those situations, but there's definitely a bravery in going out on your own terms when there is no light at the end of the tunnel, only the ever expanding darkness.\n\nI think taking your own life because you're afraid of the struggle is the opposite of brave.", "Don’t know about all that, I follow John Lennon on Instagram and saw a clip of this there.", "look at what she was talking about. The protests against the wars.\n\nDo you really think an army is like \"oh john said give peace a chance. guns down boys!\" \n\nno. all happy peace love bullshit leaving yokos mouth. sounds great but serves no real value.", "I was going to say, you don't see journalists like this anymore, but then actually, you could say you don't see people like this anymore.\n\nEven though I think she's a bit over the top.\n\nI wonder what the reason, could it be social media? That you either become crucified so to speak, or become some kind of online cult?\n\nI don't like social media and I think that's fair.", "Funny, I always feel like death after Taco Bell. Maybe tacos and suicide are the same thing?", "Yoko is so insufferable, almost as much as Lennon", "And what's the evidence against her artistic merit? The fact that you don't like her art? It's fine if you don't enjoy or understand it, you don't need to. I'm not sure I do either. No art is for everyone. But whatever you see or don't see in it really has no bearing on her merit, her influence and legacy does.\n\nAnd do you really think niche performance art is what she came up with as some get-rich-quick scheme? She was doing what she does well before she ever met Lennon. With relative success and prominence, too.\n\nI'm genuinely curious what is it about art that gets people so angry if it doesn't speak to them...", "Lol", "Bahahaha", "She was just straight rude. She may have done great things and been a great writer, but she had no tact here.", "Lol. Not a Shill. I just follow John Lennon on Instagram and saw a clip of this there and thought it was interesting", "what a woman <3", "Imagine them challenging the China apologists in the NBA lol", "Yep saw him with Narduar. It’s like damn you are even gunna give Narduar a hard time? Who put the stick up his ass?", "Yep I kind of agree and can see that. He was very unfaithful to Yoko", "ironic because 41 years ago (today) a fan of john lennons music killed him.\n\ni guess he wasnt listening to the same songs.", "\nPeople on the internet: The road to self healing is recognising your flaws and the things you’ve done to hurt others in the past. Apologising and trying to be a better person are the first steps.\n\nAlso people on the internet: We don’t care if you are trying to atone for your past actions. We will hold you to account, forever.", "\"have you ever seen a person, a person killing somebody with a smile on his face? and being happy?\" shes so blind to the world that surrounds her", "The reason they don't do it is because the journalist that does it would get a reputation as a hard ass whose going to go after the celebrity they're interviewing, so no one will want to be interviewed by them.", "Lol cute vid", "What a load of garbage. \n\nYoko Ono is by no means my favorite person but if she had never been involved with John Lennon she'd still be revered and known in art circles for her work in the fluxus movement.\n\nAll you did was preface a bunch of insults with \"I've considered it all carefully\" to make it sound like you're impartial.\n\nHer art career was well established before Lennon. That doesn't mean you have to like any of it personally, of course, but to say with total absolution that she (or really anyone) has \"no merit as an artist\" is pretentious, sanctimonious garbage.", ">Emerson believed that John Lennon could have more effectively fought against the war by, for example, going to Vietnam and performing for U.S. soldiers there, rather than performing for protestors who were already against it.\n\ncan someone explain how giving soldiers a reason or perk to sign up for war helps stop war?", "But is that really a good point? From the interview she acts as though people smiling at each other is going to prevent wars or humanitarian crises.\n\nYou have to be painfully naive to believe something like that. There are reasons why people aren’t happy, and pretending to be happy doesn’t suddenly make the source of a person’s unhappiness disappear.\n\nIt sounds like something said by someone who has never dealt with serious hardship at any point in their life.", "Yeah I’ll watch that although after watching him in an old video saying he’s not interested in women whom aren’t fit and they should be fat on someone’s else time idk if I can watch any more of him, that was a bit harsh.", "Who? The reporter is wrong and Yoko is talking nonsense.", "I don’t think I agree with this, I feel like everything is so combative now, everyone is like this, just disingenuously as they’re doing it exclusively for the audience. And especially outside of journalism, people yelling at each other is all I see all day.", "John and Yoko made a number of songs that I actually quite like.\n\n[Death of Samantha\n](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0fHMzmneKY)\n\n[Walking On Thin Glass](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzV7FiuDYKo)\n\n[Kiss Kiss Kiss](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aasdAIhGOv8)", "Yeah heard the clip where he addresses it but honestly sounds like he is trying to give it an excuse although I can definitely see his point. Still think what he did is wrong. But it’s not just that one interview. There are multiple clips of him being an ass. Yeah he is entertaining to watch in some clips but people don’t change that much…", "Holy shit Yoko Ono is fucking dumb", "“General Westmoreland, John Lennon said this war is bad so we’re going to go home now.” - the troops. \n\nOnly way ground forces would ever get a General to end a war is if they win so performing for them does nothing to end the war, but is a nice way to show them support.", "That’s kinda mean lol. Her hair is pretty wild tho", "It makes no sense to play peace songs for drafted troops and if you think John Lennon was going to convince the Vietnamese to do anything different than I don't even know anymore", "Lol yeah really, they should have been playing the troops rock n roll to get them pumped up for battle, protest songs are only going to send them into a helpless despair.", "Oh no, I’m really just addressing the part of the interview where Lennon says his music “saves lives”. It just seems super arrogant", "Lol John Legend singing ‘give peace a chance’ to a load of battle hardened GIs - it _might_ have worked", "That’s not as insightful as you might think.\n\nFrom this short video, her point is that happy people don’t kill other people.\n\nThat completely ignores why people are unhappy in the first place.\n\nIt’s like saying, “Oh you broke your arm? Just smile it’ll be fine.”\n\nIt’s painfully tone deaf in the context of the interview (the Vietnam War).", "Your opinion is as valid as any other, of course, but you've made a factual error in saying that she's not an artist and never will be; she was an established avant-garde artist before they met. In fact, they met at a gallery show of her work. Now, that needn't change your valuation of her work one iota, or your issue with her and John as a couple, etc. I personally think her nefarious influence has been way overblown but I also find her overall persona to be weird and clingy, and her musical presence to be grating and to have nothing to do with working with the other musicians. Whatever; for some reason John was ok with it. But she would have been fine as an artist without him. Less famous, for sure, but still a respected member of the art world.", "Its shouldnt be sad...it should be brave imo. We all reach the point we are no longer the thing we once were. Rather than think suicide is some cowards move we should see it as a optional end. You've never seen what end of life can take from people. Its not always grandpa who just moves a little more slowly. It can rob you of your mind, your body, everything. It takes huge courage to realize the \"You\" you prided yourself on may slip away and choose to end your life bravely. \n\nIn a sense you give back what was given to you....you enjoy your life yes? What better way to honor it than to be so brave at the end of your days than to give back the gift you were given rather than waiting for it to be taken from you.\n\nSide note. Early suicide is a tragedy, but this type is different. This is end of life choices. This is being your own best advocate, being brave, being strong, making choices before they are made for you ie your degradation.", "Ye ~~maybe~~ I romantized it, I didn't watch much of it to be either, but still I feel like people indeed act a lot more, instead of just the rawness of it.\n\nedit, ye she's kind of a bitch, but at least it's a bit raw, don't see that much,", "We’re talking about Parkinson’s, not Alzheimer’s….", "Hitting close to home there.", "I think she has put out 15 albums over the years. Crazy", "Does he post often?", "He was painfully naive and, aside from his musical genius, kind of dumb. He was easily suckered by Allen Klein. His naivete got him killed in my opinion: Fred Seaman told them to get bodyguards prior to his death and they refused.", "She decided to write her full story, especially how it ended. Could've been worse and I'm sure she knew that.", "It was so stupid that US soldiers died trying to protect a French colony.", "PBS' \"The Art Assignment\" makes a good, succinct case for her work in [this video.](https://youtu.be/KoU0E_ab36Q)", "How would performing to US Marines do anything? The DoD would never let them do some anti-war performance to the soldiers. She was a clown for that take", "Nope just watched. I actually like Billy Bobs personality and dislike the interviewer there. He didn’t seem to be much of a dick, the interviewer did tho", "Yeah but I used to loveeee watching his interviews back then. I liked seeing the personalities come out of those he was interviewing and enjoyed the banter. I think he was talented but was scum. He could have been successful if he really tried to be more professional.", "Never knew Yoko was straight up retarded, though I'm not surprised.", "It's a stupid point. If you are in a war zone, happiness isn't even a concept. Survival trumps everything. This is like a middle schooler's take on war and killing. Things are way more complex in reality.", "My understanding is that if you're against something and want to make a change then you don't pander and dedicate your time on those who feel the same as you. The reasoning behind that being that they already see the situation as you do so the movement doesn't gain any additional traction. Alternatively if you focus on the crowd that has a different opinion on the matter than you do, you have the opportunity to convert a few and plant the seed of opinion in others.\n\nThis is a bit romanticized and idillyc but that's my understanding of this exchange.\n\nIn this scenario she equated Lennon performing for protestors as the former and the idea of performing for the troops (currently in said war they were protesting against) as the latter. Though I get the impression that more than anything she found distaste in the idea of a sheltered life performing for protesters where it acted more as self promotion rather than an actual vehicle for change, yet he genuinely thought he was making a difference. This is why she repeated \"what do you know of protest?\" and made the comment along the lines of \"are you advertising John Lennon or peace?\". More so with the context of her being a war correspondent so she had more, though safer, exposure to war itself.", "brainlet take", "narrator:\n\nIt wasn't", "I feel like we have enough issues at home to be concerned with without worrying about NBA players foreign policy stances. Let's end American imperialism and the war against the worker before worrying about Chinese state authority", "She's so fucking stupid", "English accent? 😂", ">going to Vietnam and performing for U.S. soldiers there\n\nI suspect Lennon would not have been allowed to perform anti-war songs for the troops - especially considering the problems he was having just to get into America at that time.", "That isn't really the point. The point is that people can change.", "My grandma did that in a way. She stopped taking her heart meds by choice at the end of her life. It was heartbreaking", "Lol his fans sure do", "> protect a French colony.\n\nYou mean U.S interests and prevent Communist expansion.", "Wouldn't this have been around the time Rollins would go out just to find people to fight? Like, actual fist fights, not arguments. He was definitely a piece of work back then.", "We could have easily done that by dealing with Ho Chi Minh when he came to the US asking for help before he turned to the Soviet Union.", "Lennon has a cigarette he's smoking in the beginning, and at the end he's taking another one out of the pack.\n\nIt's not even a five minute video.", "It was a lot easier for naive fools to bury their heads before the internet and camera phones and stuff", "You ever see the video of ol chuck berry farting and pissing on hookers faces. Good stuff!", "?", "Probably if Yoko said much, she'd be vilified for talking while the Beatles were rehearsing. I don't think Linda added much either, but everyone rakes Yoko for sitting there peacefully, while there were plenty of d-bag hangers-on lingering about during that whole shoot.", "to be fair, the stuff John Lennon was saying was especially delusional and brought a whole new level to the word slacktivism. She's not talking over him because she's interrupting to make her point seem right, because her point absolutely is right he did shit all. It's the delusional thinking John Lennon had and him yelling back but we need peace, I could save people by singing about it. Seriously?\n\nIt's one thing to talk over someone in order to force a point but when someone keeps retorting back with rhetoric that has no value in the real world and then think they're doing something means he had absolutely no clue about geopolitical issues, economies etc. \n\nTo put it in perspective if you're wife asked you to pick up milk and then you came back saying that water is the milk of the world or some bullshit you would deserve to be talked over.", "John Lennon was a fake and a hypocrit. dude sucked.", "And yet, she was also very controlling. When they became estranged and Lennon went off on his 18 month \"[lost weekend](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_Pang#%22Lost_Weekend%22)\" with his mistress (John and Yoko's personal assistant May Pang who [Yoko had asked to become Lennon's mistress](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6195469/Yoko-Ono-hand-picked-mistress-John-Lennon-covered-took-lover.html)) Pang convinced Lennon to reconnect with his estranged son Julian, and to reconnect with his old friends (like the rest of the former Beatles) something he reported he wasn't allowed to do when with Yoko. The sad thing is after reconnecting, [McCartney convinced Lennon to reconcile with Yoko](https://youtu.be/IsViGPzswBI)... and shortly after their relationship deteriorated again.\n\nI personally think Yoko was a controlling force over Lennon.\n\nThat belief only increased watching the recent documentary about the recording of the get back sessions. Even when George, Ringo and Paul brought people like their spouses or guru's to the sessions they all kept a discrete distance while Yoko always placed herself in the inner circle of the 4 specifically between Paul and John. Paul even mentions her presence as being a point of tension in the Beatles that they have had to put up with for John, and her presence as being one of the reasons why George left.\n\nFrom all accounts Yoko was a terrible and controlling influence on John.", "Everything could be done differently. That’s what fuels the Internet.", "Watch it again again and you notice that he does it as well. It's just two people passionately disagreeing.", "They still cry about Jane Fonda going there.", "Yaaaas", "I saw two people too entrenched in their own worldview to pay any real heed to the other's opinion in that video.\n\nWas Lennon too arrogant to actually consider Emerson's point of view? Sure. But at the same time, she was projecting the same amount of disrespect. I'm sure that, as a combat reporter, she felt very justified in her position and, compared to the awful stuff she experienced, she may have believed that this pop-star didn't know shit about the real world. I believe that she was simply missing the bigger picture here and where they both fit into it.\n\nIn the end, both had important roles to play. I don't think it's fair to criticize either for following their own path, as they both did tremendous work.", "Wow, I knew John Lennon thought he was big and everything but to actually think that by him just saying peace he could've saved people. He makes Greta Thunberg seem like she has gone to school with years of experience in environmental studies and is a professor who has tenure. I always thought that imagine was the dumbest pos thing to come out of someone's mouth but no it isn't this is.\n\nShe corrects him because he's so delusional that he thinks he knows the answer to stop everyone from fighting and that is the word peace, no need to worry about countries counterfeiting money, no need to worry about the logistics of getting food to an area, all you need is peace. \n\nAfter watching this the first thing I'm going to do is write out a well thought out letter to Mark David Chapman thanking him for his service to the world. Could you imagine if someone with his celebrity and grand delusions and the harm it could've done if he had lived another 20 years. Slacktivism would've taken on a whole other level by now.", "You could tell the journalist had no respect for anything she said....and rightly so.", "in the eyes of the people in charge, wouldn't this undermine the mission in Vietnam? i don't understand why anyone with any sort of sway in the military would allow a nakedly anti-war act to come and proselytize their anti-war message to the people making that war happen.\n\n\ni don't see it.", "Fucking badass.", "The Pang story is new to me. I had no idea. Man, love can be messy.", "If one tried today, the celebrity would have stormed out/ended the interview within the first minute.\n\nI'm so used to that, I was amazed that John and Yoko stayed and argued their case.", "Well, I completely disagree.\n\nBasically you're saying that if you believe you're right then it's ok for you to talk over someone else, which is a supremely shitty way of communicating when you start from the assumption that both parties involved usually believe to be right, regardless of how stupid you think one point or the other can be.\n\nIf you're one of those (and there are many) who have a hard time recognizing when they're wrong, then what you have is a bully who just shouts what he wants to say and lever listens.\n\n>we need peace, I could save people by singing about it. Seriously?\n\nWell, I'd say why not. If your lyrics move enough people towards a certain position they might either skip draft, protest, vote against etc.\n\nMusic in the 60s was a huge part of the general peace culture, or do you think all those who protested against the Vietnam War (and maybe moved to Canada to avoid draft) got their ideas from philosophy books?\n\nThat wasn't my point though. I'm not even a great fan of John Lennon as a person or his views to begin with.\n\nMy point was that until halfway though the video I didn't know what they were arguing about because all I could hear was a different version of \"you're delusional\" shouted by that woman.\n\nTrue or not (probably true), just let him say a fucking word and then use your arguments to disprove his point. Talking over in a loud annoying voice just makes you look like a bully.", "Sounds like something I would have said on acid when I was 16.", "Yeah Yoko Ono was just a cunt. Her weird ass way of shoehorning herself into musical sessions with outright horrible singing or instrumentation, the fact that she was lying half naked with Lennon when his wife and kids came home from a vacation (obviously fuck John for that too), and then as you mentioned essentially divided the Beatles. \n\nHorrible human being.", "Absolutely idiotic cunt of a woman.", "Her statements were the statements mark david chapman used to justify killing lennon. Did she ever think perhaps their protest or music stopped suffering in other ways? Depression, suicide, rethinking positive?", "Nah, Yoko Ono just wanted attention. Screeching and being a cunt isn’t art.", "The thing is, the U.S. had no real interests in Vietnam, and Vietnamese communists were nationalists first, communists second. Ho Chi Minh was just as willing to align with the US as Russians. \n\nOnce the US was out Vietnam fought Chinese and threw Khmer Rouge out of Cambodia.", "Imagine the embarrassment of having your partner make such a stupid point on live television. \n\nIts almost as if you shouldn't bring your girlfriend with her \"coexist\" tier worldview into an interview.", "if they didn't care, they wouldn't vet them. they do have them vetted because they do care.", "At this point any American who openly supports CCP isn't really an American worth watching. Supporting the CCP is part of the war against the worker", "It is sad, as all death is, but definitely brings up the point of being able to choose how you go out. 75 years old with an incurable degenerative disease that ruins your quality of life? That would certainly make me contemplate how and when I want to die. \n\nDeath is a part of life and yet is not something people often get a say in how we want to experience it. \n\nIf I were in her shoes, psilocybin end-of-life therapy followed by a huge dose of opioids sounds like a fine way to go - make peace with this world and experience sensational bliss on the way out the door. Switzerland has legalized the use of suicide pods that rapidly asphyxiate the user (swapping nitrogen for oxygen, and double as a coffin) for the exact purpose of providing people with options. \n\nTo be clear, suicide and euthanasia are very tricky, very fine-line subjects, and I urge anyone who is feeling suicidal to talk to friends, family, therapist, hotline, or all of the above. \n\nEnd-of-life decisions for older humans, though, should absolutely have more legal, available options than hospital palliative care or slowly dying at home (potentially in significant physical and emotional pain for you and those around you). Some people are lucky and experience relatively good health right up until they die peacefully in their sleep, but if you have ever had a family member with dementia or significant chronic health problems in old age, you know how painful it can be for not only them, but their families. Even though he was kind of an ass before, I'm very willing to bet my grandpa would not have wanted to put his family through what they experienced in his late-stage Alzheimer's before he passed away.", "That's about as much thought as a 4th grader might put into something", "Never heard her music before, eh?", "no I'm not saying if you believe you're right, I'm saying if someone had an idea as stupid as John Lennon's and they just try to argue back with the same point thinking they has some grand epiphany and the only thing that he was saying was peace and thinking by him saying peace that it would solve all the worlds problems. \n\nHe even thought by just having a picture of himself with peace actually saved lives, at some point a logical and rational person is going to lose it with someone like this. The world is extremely complicated and there are many issues plaguing it but to actually think just by writing a song or saying a simple word to actually think it will get the ball rolling is lunacy.\n\nNo I don't think anyone who protested the war got their ideas from philosophy books I think they formed their own opinion because no one really wants to see others die and the vietnam war was useless. Also strategically vietnam was always going to fail, Vietnam had so many advantages and it was a losing war for America. The idea came up before Lennon and anything he did had no real impact on anything, I mean his song imagine is the dumbest dribble ever that could only come from someone who was extremely privileged and knew nothing of the world.\n\nAt some point when someone thinks they're an expert at something while not being able to say anything other than the word peace you're going to lose your mind and start getting aggressive. The video looks like it was only started half way through the conversation but constantly saying you know a lot about it and so on while not backing it up with any thought is dumb as shit.\n\nHe deserved to be called delusional because well, he was delusional as hell and it's a problem we're experiencing with celebrities now they get too rich and hear only good things about them for so long (and the beatles were bigger than god so that was definitely an ego boost) that they think they're brilliant and could solve all of societies ills.", "I mean to be fair, John Lennon's protesting was like the dissident equivalent of going to Disney Land for a weekend of 'adventure'. If he were alive today I wouldn't doubt he'd be taking selfies on Instagram behind a backdrop of a war torn country with the word \"believe, imagine, laugh, love\" in the caption. Opened the door to a whole profitable market of art for people who wanna look woke but not actually wake up.", "Oh sure, the only reason why the US has had continual wars since the 60s is because there haven't been enough brave USO performers to shame the troops during a performance.\n\nGive me a break.", "For the most part, I don't disagree with her, although his points aren't completely off base - it IS better to get your picture in the paper with the word 'peace' than some other word. Beyond that, his arguments are naive and/or fall flat.\n\n'You're a fake.' That's awfully rich coming from an American with a British accent. Sure, she lived quite a bit abroad and in the UK. But you don't get an accent from a few years of living abroad. Your accent is more or less etched in stone but the time you're a teenager. Both Chrissy Hynde and Linda McCartney lived most of their adult years in the UK and still didn't have British accents. He should've called her on that.", "It's a spectrum. The poor are certainly more 'bent over' than 50 years ago.", "It's like she literally never stepped foot out of a Kindergarten classroom.", "She's talking like a mix between a preschool teacher and a preschool student.", "To be fair, kids today complaining about how they basically have no future is in no way similar to multimillionaire John Lennon publishing woke selfies of himself for the clout", "I agree, it is a spectrum. \n\nYou are right, the poor in the US are more bent over now than they were 50 years ago. However, the poor worldwide are doing better than they were 50 years ago. \n\nAlso, the poor in the US were doing worse 100 years ago before they were doing better 50 years ago. And the poor were much worse 150 years ago. \n\nSo, it really depends at what point in history you want to point at.", "I could understand a perspective that both accepts that music can help with depression and emotional distress while simultaneously not being effective at ending the war or making any sort of genuine cultural impact beyond just making good music. Punk Rock music, system of a down, rage against the machine.... great anti war music.... didn't do shit to stop the man. The man just monetized that shit.", "> They enlisted\n\nWe also used the draft for Vietnam", "Real life isn't the movies", "\"I have more humility than you could possibly imagine.\"", "How is that what I said? Moron", "are you saying that a killer has never smiled or?", "Yeah the whole \"bed-in\" protest was stupid as fuck lol. On the other hand, I don't think there's anything wrong with mass-appealing pop protest music, quite the opposite really. People like John aren't the ones who should be in the weeds of a protest, making the real decisions and pushing demands on the government. But he excelled at giving the people an easy anthem to sing and unite with. It takes a village, I think.", "Psilocybin therapy is what Switzerland uses? I will have to look into that", "No. Switzerland just legalized a suicide pod that allows users to end their life where they would like (it's got a big window) and without needing access to hard-to-access and dangerous drugs (either injection or pill form). \n\nIf I were in that situation, I would want psilocybin therapy ahead of time (this is currently being tested/expanded in the US with terminal cancer patients).", "climate change is far more sophisticated but it effectively does the same thing. It's easy to complain about something but without actually bringing solutions or thoughts instead of oil and coal bad it's not going to do anything and attention is already plenty brought to it. Also kids today will have a future it'll be a harder life in some aspects but still miles better than say even a 100 years ago\n\nSo politicians do ineffectual things in order to appease the mob and make it seem like they're doing something, but in reality it more than likely makes it worse. \n\nClimate activists want oil to stop immediately but that's impossible because millions if not billions would die. You can't stop coal from being used because poorer countries don't have the infrastructure or resources to be able to switch to renewable technology in levels of power that's needed. Hot places need AC in order to make people productive while cold countries need heat by stopping both of these people die. So it's always like a hydra cut one head off two takes it place. Normally this would be gradually figured out and technology would rise to a point where it's more economical to not use oil but when everyone has everyone else breathing down their necks things happen that are outside of what they thought and ends up making it worse.\n\nLike getting rid of plastic bags in order to make thicker plastic bags that don't get the same amount of use, take longer to decompose and use up more energy to make meaning more c02.\n\nOr how politicians posture themselves and go to a conference in order to talk about climate change while also taking private jets halfway across the world and brings an 85 vehicle entourage with them in order to go to a place and say they did something so they can get a pat on the back, just like slacktivists like Greta Thunberg", "Condescending?", "Still tragically unnecessary, voice dictation software was absolutely reliable technology in 2004.", "Very interesting. Yeah I heard end of death experience every person experiences basically some sort of high like psilocybin creates in the brain I believe", "Despite being well traveled, I think she is more out of touch on this issue. What is protesting a war while performing for the troops going to do? Get you booed off stage and blacklisted. No minds will be changed. Performing for protestors and showing solidarity with them will boost their moral and keep them doing what they are doing to hopefully make a difference.", "The troops were conscripted from the civilian population. I'm sure if they'd had a choice most of them would have not even been there in the first place.", "That's not just an NYT reporter, that's Gloria Fucking Emerson. She was, and still is, right.", "I haven’t watched someone smile while killing another person. Please tell me about your extensive experience in this.", "the whole anti-china angle is peak corporate MSM", "Also the fact that a lot of american troops were smiling while torching villages to the ground and throwing civilians out of helicopters", "So you think the American government is a force for good compared to China? Why not just dislike both and focus your energy where you have an actual voice", "Well, since the only ones that could really confirm that are dead... We do know that asphyxiation can be painless/euphoric in certain circumstances (that is why CO in homes is so dangerous - odorless, binds to hemoglobin, etc). Any house with a gas line needs CO detectors just like smoke detectors. \n\nEoL psilocybin therapy is actual talk therapy with guided trip sessions that is a process over a few months. It's not a dose-at-death.", "I don't remember ever saying that.", "There is a reason why many child stars often go 'crazy' for a lil bit, or in some cases the rest of their lives.", "true, I down voted my self too", "I’m sorry but what do you mean by challenge? What good did this reporter get out of challenging them?\n\nVietnam turned out to be an utter fucking joke. why NOT protest it from bed? Why is that any more ridiculous than the war itself?", "im not saying i have, just saying i think it happens.", "I see a lot of odd comments praising this reporter and I’m not sure why? \n\nYoko and Jon’s protest was indeed ridiculous, but it was no more ridiculous than the war itself. \n\nThe reporters point was that their only valid way to protest was to get out into the streets and…people already were out in the streets. The Beatles had been making protest music for ages, doing interviews about it for ages.\n\nAnd the war just kept dragging the fuck on. Remind you of anything?\n\nSo sometimes you have to protest the absurd with the absurd. Things really get to that point. Does it help? Who the fuck knows. But protests were really not getting through to Washington at that point anyway.", "I don't know if that would have been the case in this instance. A lot of the soldiers were drafted and didn't agree with the war or want to be there.", "Oh. Well yeah that’s true no one can really attest, but I watched something where they talked about like the chemicals in the brain like it’s scientifically proven that’s what happens in our last moments it’s a sort of high. (I’m talking if we die naturally not like by car accident of course)", "What I’m getting at is it is just an assumption, based on the fact that killing people is glorified in movies/series/fiction etc. But in real life it’s not like that at all.", "The point is, they could have said as much and satisfied the question", "She was 100% correct. Everything he did was for himself and that's it. He's a fucking fraud who still gets paraded around.\n\nThis fucker wrote \"imagine\" just to capitalize on hippies and their movements. Goddamn I wish he was left to suffer.\n\nEdit: this dude beat his wife and literally capitalized on the communist movement. He is the exact person liberals should hate yet they wanna make him a martyr.", "Why should terminally ill people continue to suffer?", "dont forget that you are assuming as well", "So peaceful...", "So she thought if John Lennon played concerts for soldiers that would inspire people to not join the war? \n\nSeems pretty illogical", "Wait what? You think people in 1969 would enlist in the Army in the hope of going to Vietnam just in case John Lennon performed at a USO show?", "yea i dont get the love either, they are over rated in my eyes.", "No, because most of those soldiers were drafted, or enlisted because of the draft. \n\nI’m wondering how she is thinking his performance(s) would be an effective fight against the war?", "> Fearing she would lose the ability to write, Emerson wrote her own obituary and then committed suicide.\n\nBased", "I guarantee you it's the same people who cry victim blaming when people advise them not to walk around downtown alone at night.", "I literally never claimed either of those points to be the case for ol' Johnny boy.", "You can tell it’s very personal for her. She was wholly dedicating herself to reporting the atrocities of war and all John Lennon had to do was an artsy “advertising campaign” as he put it to have more of an impact on the anti-war movement, or at least the public opinion of the anti-war movement, than she ever could. It makes her feel devalued like her sacrifice and dedication are in vain.", "I think her point was he should try to convince soldiers to be against the war, rather than anti-war protesters who already were.", "Well the people he was singing to in the US were already against the war, it would be hard to measure what effect he would have on them. \n\nPerforming to the the U.S soldiers stationed in Vietnam against the war, could potentially have had an increased rate turning people to his cause. A lot of the soldiers in Vietnam were potentially malleable to his message. \n\nThis sort of strategy is common in well planned ideological campaigns. Don't preach to the choir, preach to the sinners. The choir of course in this instance are the people protesting. \n\nWithin the U.S forces some percentage of the forces would be willing to listen and consider the message of peace, within that percentage there would be some that would join that cause. That's potential progress. \n\nIt's hard to say what difference John Lennons or Gloria Emersons strategy would have had, since we can only see the side of history that happened. Emersons strategy may not have been so wrong though. \n\nWhile this book isn't about ideological campaigns it does go into a bit of strategy that works well with them. \"Why Civil Resistance Works: The Strategic Logic of Nonviolent Conflict\" is a great book for learning about these alternate strategies.", "I've seen some studies referenced that found DMT released in the brains of dying rats, but IIRC, not in enough quantities to trip. \n\n\nAgain, there's no real way to verify, but I imagine it's more like falling asleep - you can't pinpoint exactly when it happens and once it does you essentially don't exist (consciously) - rather than tripping balls (where you are very aware of your consciousness, even if you lose your ego).", "People kill with a smile on their face all the time. The lady needs a dash of reality", "Cool, then you'll join me in destroying the Republican and Democratic parties", "Yeah that would be better I like the tripping balls option lol. But yeah that’s what I heard of, the dmt similarities", "Resting bitch tone", "You don’t see this kind of journalism anymore. I dig it. She goes out of her way to point out that she’s a fan and sticks to her guns. That couldn’t have been an easy thing to do as a fan or a journalist.", "Also her [screaming art](https://youtu.be/HdZ9weP5i68) was off the chain", "IIRC it was popular to teach young women to speak a certain way in finishing schools. Perhaps she went to one? Or that style of high brow speak was popular among young educated women at the time?", "This is true", "It is if someone likes it.\n\nI don't like it though, but it seems that there were people who did.", "pre-internet, people had to meet up to disagree", "Hey man, when Wonder Woman sang Imagine she literally saved us all from COVID. It was incredible how many lives she saved.", ">There's nothing wrong with ending your life on your terms.\n\nShouldn't be \"illegal\".", "I’m not holding him accountable for anything", "Did I say it’s what you said? Clearly I said it. Should he not have admitted to it?", "You mean the people who were conscripted to go get shot at on the other side on the planet were actually pro-war?", "Not as high a level as you it seems", "Yes and admitting wrongdoing is the first step", "Admission is the first step to change", "> They can't put down their guns and refuse to fight because they're getting shot at.\n\nThe term conscientious objector literally became a thing from men in the military refusing to fight.", "Is that supposed to apply here? We heard it from John first lmao", "So we agree that it’s not wrong to admit to wrongdoing?", "Of course it isn't. Now get to your point, pretty please.", "My point is the one you’re currently lecturing me with", "Ok", "You can still change", "What the actual fuck", "Yeah, that's fair. At the same time, he's not wrong. As far as he knows his music was literally the reason people were alive, serving their communities, and potentially creating movements that rippled out and impacted others.\n\nIt's also fair when he says her work is potentially less meaningful since, like today, the people that read the NYT likely weren't the poor, young people actually fighting in the war.\n\nNot necessarily saying he's right, but I do personally lean more towards John/Yoko, if I'm honest. Just seems like most people calling for a civil war today seem unhappy af!", " Oh I used to be a huge piece of shit. Slicked back hair, white bathing suit, sloppy steaks, white couch, you would have not liked me back then", "Doesn’t sound that bad", "She may had been more willing to listen to the icon John Lennon, but walked out when Yoko started speaking haha", "You can support the troops without supporting their actions. The soldiers there that didnt want to be there may have felt better having someone like that be there for them, and lennon could have taken a message away from there that wouldnt have been diluted by whatever spin could have been put on it. its putting your money where your mouth is. it doesnt matter how others perceive your actions if your doing the right thing", "you dont have to have tact. they were having a debate. they both made points, they both interrupted, and if anything she got lennons unadulterated take. he couldnt sit there and practice what he was going to say, he got emotional and said the more real thing. it wasnt an interview for people to watch where a celebrity and a journalist are nice to each other and discussed pre-arranged questions, it was an interview for her to go away and write about", "I know and loss is truly heartbreaking. Death in general is. That being said, I have worked in nursing homes when young. Those people, kept alive by others, are by vast majority a sliver of themselves. All of them had they possessed the wherewithal for even a moment would have wished for death seeing what they had become. She made a brave move =). She was a strong person.", "Yeah, two of my sisters are art history professors and clued me in to her reputation in their world. Nevertheless, she was absolutely not adding anything positive to The Beatles' sound. Arguably a bit more to John's solo projects, but even that is debateable.", "I think the world needs less superficiality and confronting it like this is good way to get to the meat of what someone is doing.", "Well... He certainly didn't save her life.", "No. I knew that Lennon was a massive idiot who thought idealistic thoughts which are completely useless, like the song Imagine, however the whole other level of idiocy he presented in the video actually flabbergasted me and I would have gotten worked up like the reporter because for someone to actually think their fame and simply saying peace would be enough to save lives. There's only so much stupid you can take.\n\nI remember watching the man in the high castle and thinking that it would be a good look at what happened if nazis had won ww2 and then battle to take them down, but as it went on it went into nonsense and I figured the whole story would be about \"art\" being the answer, art is never the answer, finding a solution and action is.\n\nI'm not trying to be crass but the dude was seriously screwed up in the head and for him to think that any idea that he actually had would've been good for the world. At some point when you say something so insanely stupid, it actually hurts people's heads. \n\nit's akin to saying that all poor people got to do in order to have a better life is make more money. There I saved world poverty now. the difference is he had influence, which combined with his idiocy is extremely dangerous.", "Agree to disagree on some of what you commented, but I do acknowledge that you are right about some of what you called me out about. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and information. I should have qualified my statement more clearly by stating that \"in my own estimation of what constitutes an artist or a musician, Yoko is neither.\" I started out denying the artistic merit in her work (and I will continue to do so forever) but then I abruptly appointed myself as the arbiter of who does and who doesn't get to be called an artist. I don't deny that she produces pieces, performances, films and installations that are presented to the public as art and which are exhibited in settings where artists present their work. I thought I had made that clear enough when I stated, \"I can honestly say that I've considered her work carefully...\" My cranky personal opinion about what qualifies someone to be considered an artist does absolutely nothing to negate the technical definition of what an artist is. So, though it pains me greatly do so, I acknowledge that Yoko Ono is an artist in the sense that the term \"artist\" is technically defined and commonly understood. And while I'm dining on my words, it was disingenuous of me to claim that I had considered her work with \"an open mind.\" The truth is that my mind involuntarily slams shut like a bear trap whenever I see her pointless and pretentious output. I simply hate her work and I have it on very good authority that it hates me back just as much. It's time for me to face up to the fact that I'm just a mean old man who wants Yoko Ono to stay the hell off his lawn. \nShe sure as hell ain't no damn musician though. I'll never budge on that.", "Yeah it is. I like to think of her of being strong. She was heart broken her husband had died like two months before too :/", "Hey I really appreciate that you took the time to consider my words and also to respond. That’s very rare and says a lot about you. Cheers.", "When you're right, you're right. And you're right, right?", "virtual fist bump", "Think it’s important to note that John Lennon is only 29 here. I don’t know many 29 year olds that get everything right all the time. He did what he felt was right and at least he did something.", "> something that I don't doubt was encouraged by Yoko.\n\nlol. I love how everything you don't like about him is her fault. You people are deranged.", "> he produced one of the most enduring anti-war images of the 20th century.\n\nI'm not very familiar, do you mind pointing me somewhere to see this?", "god dang that guy is such a douche.\n\nand wtf was yoko saying about happiness stopping murder/killing? that was so absurd.", "Then what exactly is your point. I don't understand what you're talking about you weirdo", "Yoko Ono is a shitty human and fucking dumb as a box of rocks.", "Lennon dick riders will chew you out even when you take their side lmao, you do you", "Idk if people like Gloria Emerson would be egging on NBA players to pick fights with the Chinese government.", "I don't have a made-up mind about whether the war should or should not have been fought. But do you think the only reason soldiers would oppose war is because they don't want to die? You don't think soldiers who support a war know that they might die in it?\n\nWhat do you think would be better at changing public opinion than a soldier who fought in a war coming home and saying that we shouldn't be fighting that war?", "Believe it or not but in a liberal democracy generals don't get the final say on whether or not a war ends.", "There is no rational and identifiable counter culture", "Soldiers were voters, and spoke to the rest of the public. Many people who originally supported the war would listen to them, more so than non-combatants.", "Soldiers vote, and participate in democracy the same as anyone else, and they were more likely to be listened to by voters who supported the war, the ones whose minds needed changing. \n\n\nIn any case, the testimony of those soldiers during and after the war made a huuuuuge dent in the influence of American hawks.", "Idk, 75 years and out on your own terms.\n\nSounds like a pretty good run", "I wasn’t smiling when I had to do a book report on Catcher in the Rye.", "Cut Piece", "Also back then disagreements in the public eye (media and now social media) did not seem to mean \"You are my enemy and I literally want to kill you.\" Everything we see on the news and social media now is such extremism and I feel like it has seeped into daily life.", "o rly y not", "Sure, but she's supposed to be the interviewer who is on a job. Losing your cool is kind of unprofessional.", "It's not an interview, it's a video and she is a reporter. They're surrounded by papers. This is basically how interviews are decided, the phase beforehand where they talk about what they will talk about.", "The guy was probably full of shit but that doesn't give an interviewer a pass for losing her temper on the job, though I guess it made for good entertainment for us in the end.", "The way it read, I’m wondering if they were actually off the record. You’re right, she was really fired up—they both were. He was furious and couldn’t wait to slap her with, “that was MY song they were singing, etc.”", "Thanks for the clarification, though it still sounds like she was technically on the job. Anyways, not that I mind that it happened, just that it seemed unprofessional. I guess I give the other two slightly more leeway because they are technically the \"subject\" even if this is an outtake.", "Its good to see both sides of the coin. Kind of painful to watch but important. \n\nPretty sure that's why so many say don't meet your heroes.\n\nWe're all just as flawed in out own special way.", "The difference is, lots of musicians, artists, actors and so on are not as political. Once you try and get political yes I think someone with that much influence should be scrutinized. \n\nMost \"celebs\" just give to their own charities now anyway, much safer for them that way and lets them cater to like minded people.", "It saddening that even after all of John Lennon's efforts that there is still ongoing wars between nations, conflicts over resources, religion and ideology, but at least we can all come together and agree that Yoko Ono is a cunt.", "they both are on the job imo\n\n&#x200B;\n\nbut i agree that she did not do well regarding structuring and etiquette", "that's coz he has a STEEL DICK. A STEEL DICK. And she has a STEEL VAGINA. SO THAT'S WHY.", ">I don't have a made-up mind about whether the war should or should not have been fought. But do you think the only reason soldiers would oppose war is because they don't want to die? You don't think soldiers who support a war know that they might die in it?\n\nI was being flippant, but the soldier's opposition to the war was well known in the 60s & especially the 70s. Draft dodging was a very well known phenomenon.\n\n>What do you think would be better at changing public opinion than a soldier who fought in a war coming home and saying that we shouldn't be fighting that war?\n\nThis happened many times during the Vietnam war (famously with John Kerry). It did not help.", "I formulated my stance from reading this article. Anti-war sentiment provided convenient cover for America’s withdrawal from the Vietnam war, but it was a losing battle to begin with. International conditions doomed it from the start. https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2007/01/how-the-vietnam-war-really-ended.html", "well apparently you do as you've gotten back a couple times. I honestly don't really care what people think, most people just like to think fluffy cloud thoughts that are idealistic and not based in reality. Which is the real reason why you probably got back.\n\ngood thoughts do not help people.", "They may have meant \"image\" in a more abstract sense, referring either to his personal image or to his song \"imagine\" which of course became a massive global hit and still is known around the world.", "> I would love for journalists to challenge musicians and actors like this nowadays.\n\nAny time they do, Reddit throws an absolute conniption, calls them unprofessional, and on and on.\n\nI AGREE with you, mind you, but I don't think it's a popular opinion, even among many who claim they want to see that, too.", "Mid Atlantic Accent\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mid-Atlantic_accent", "[Mid-Atlantic accent](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mid-Atlantic_accent) \n \n >The Mid-Atlantic accent, or Transatlantic accent, is an accent of English, fashionably used by the early 20th-century American upper class and entertainment industry, which blended together features regarded as the most prestigious from both American and British English (specifically Received Pronunciation). It is not a native or regional accent; rather, according to voice and drama professor Dudley Knight, \"its earliest advocates bragged that its chief quality was that no Americans actually spoke it unless educated to do so\".\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( \| )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( \| )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( \| )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove \| v1.5)", "What? I'm not a Lennon dick rider and I don't understand how you were taking my side? I literally don't understand what you're saying", "If you've spent any time in about 90% of the world's countries (and even most of the last 10%), you'll find she's 100% right.", "Oh bc of our free/affordable health care? 😂" ]	395	videos	Interesting video where a NYT reporter strongly disagrees with John Lennon
https://youtu.be/hfe5xguCZJo	/r/videos/comments/rbfxlz/jeremy_clarksons_rejected_advert_for_his_new_lager/	[ "Is there anything this man can’t do.", "Fix absolutely anything mechanical.", "Can... can you even advertise alcohol these days? I know cigarette ads were banned completely, including sponsorships...", "It would have been fine if he hadn’t sworn.\n\nAlso, it’s the fastest selling lager in Britain as of this week." ]	4	videos	Jeremy Clarkson's Rejected Advert For His New Lager
https://youtu.be/fiwup1K4rTQ	/r/videos/comments/rbg1nq/customers_destroy_a_rug_and_they_clean_an_amazing/	[ "I'm sure it was dirty but it looked more like dye was washing out.", "I wish to own a home large enough to have these size rugs.", "At what point do you just buy a new one", "What if it really brings the room together?", "Not to be too much of a pedant, but \"destroy\" would indicate beyond repair, I believe.", "Which is why they had to pull out the big guns", "Maybe they should walk their dog occasionally.", "Not sure about these rugs, but I know my parents have area rugs that they paid $18,000 for… on sale.", "I can smell it", "🤣🤣🤣", "At what point do you learn how to train your dog", "Woo peed on it", "They pee'd on your fuckin rug", "Trumps parties really are wild", "[it doesn't make me cum...](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8MCgMxVW-k)", "It’s not uncommon for Persian rugs to go for 15,000-35,000.", "That is.. too much.", "i love animals, but just like people, if they pee where they aren't supposed to pee, they can live outside.", "Dogs", "Me", "Gnarly. \n\nAlso, the guy dips his hand in piss to show off the colour of the liquid in the cup.", "Yes😩", "I'm sorry but what is an \"amazing amount of urine\"? At what point does a regular amount of urine become amazing?", "you know that house reeks of piss. do peoples nose not work?", "I find that weirdly relaxing to watch.", "Money ain't a thing to people that have it.", "I gotta start making rugs then. You in?", "The rug really tired the room together", "Your mistake is thinking that people with money are all morons. \n\nThe decision to spend that money isn't stupid. When you have 15k, spending 15k is sacrificing everything. When you have 15 million, spending 15k isn't much of anything. \n\nGood luck with learning to make rugs and get into the purchasing space that those customers would be seeing your product.", "Same", "Me at the start of the video: Why would I watch 16 minutes of guys cleaning rugs.\n\nMe at the end of the video: How many more videos do they have?", "I mean I didn't say any of that but alright", "Why do you think it's an easy buck?", "I don’t mean to disparage the rug making masters of the world, but yeah man I think with enough time and practice I could make equivalent quality rugs.\n\nWe live in the future, I don’t have to travel to the Middle East and spend years with a master to learn the skill.\n\nAt the very least, I will be examining rugs more closely in future garage and estate sales." ]	34	videos	Customers destroy a rug and they clean an amazing amount of urine out of it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCpeNhgwR68	/r/videos/comments/rbg30u/the_drake_chicago_hvac_helicopter_lift/	[ "That was fascinating.", "I was part of a helicopter lift in May 2020. I was part of the crew on the ground. Crazy stuff.\n\nThe pilot is working on limited fuel, as well as big hourly paycheck, so lifts need to go quick. It's also difficult for them to hover for even a short period, so you go from one payload to the next without skipping a beat. It was terrifying, but a great experience overall.", "Sub 9 minute time is going to hard to beat for that type of job", "I'm curious if they evacuated the hotel for this. If they dropped that unit it could crash right through the ceiling.\n\nI bet not. The Drake is one of the fanciest hotels in downtown Chicago. Lots of fur coats and top hats/monacles crowd as the usual customers." ]	4	videos	The Drake Chicago HVAC Helicopter Lift
https://youtu.be/CdtdipgEjgE	/r/videos/comments/rbgh68/first_call_a_documentary_about_people_who_drink/	[ "When your day starts early, you should too", "Some of these people's day starts very late, which makes sense. 3rd shift, first stop is the bar. Fascinating concept for a documentary. Made in 2000, it's probable that a number of them are no longer with us.", "Smoking in bars in NYC is what makes this documentary so surreal to me", "LOL. That is pretty surreal. I'm old enough to remember when that was a very common thing. We still have a couple bars in my town where you can smoke in the bar after hours. They know it's illegal, but look the other way.", "The transition sucked so bad. \n\nWhen every single bar just smelled overpoweringly of smoke, it wasn't that bad. Your nose just went scent-blind after a minute. \n\nBut once they finally started to air out a bit, it was rank. Every single bar just reeked of rancid festering tar, and it continued to seep out of the walls for years. The rotting tar smell wasn't as up-front abrasive, but you'd keep smelling waves of it for hours instead of just getting hit by the wall of fresh smoke.", "Lovin' this doc, thanks.", "I remember waking up after going out to the bars after they banned cigarettes and not having a hang over. It was the cigs fucking me up more than the booze.", "I used to have a similar lifestyle. I used to deliver pizza from about 5pm to about 2 or 3 am. Then by the time you clean up and close the restaurant it's about 4am. Then my fellow delivery drivers and I would grab some food from a 24 hour fast food place and then make our way to a communal house that we all congregated at around 4:30 am. Once we got there we'd start drinking and/or using our various drugs of choice whether it was cocaine, heroin, weed, or any number of other things. Then we'd kind of wind down around maybe 9am and make our way to our various homes. Then we'd sleep until maybe around 4pm. Then we'd wake up and make our way back to the pizza place to start the whole day over again. Those were some interesting times to say the least.", "I am old enough to remember when this transition happened, but too young to have been able to go to bars at that time, this was an interesting observation, thank you.", "I may need to watch this.", "If you reckon you do, go for it. You don't want to have a problem persist only cause you didn't want to look it square in the eye.", "If everything in this doc weren't late 90's enough, when that Morphine track kicks in at 9:22.... whew!", "[ Jump to 09:22 @ Referenced Video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdtdipgEjgE&t=0h9m22s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: THE JOJE, Video Popularity: 97.45%, Video Length: [57:51])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@09:17](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdtdipgEjgE&t=0h9m17s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^\| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)", "I worked graveyard shifts in gas stations for years growing up.\n\nA lot of my customers would go get their PM coffee because they where about to head into factory work for the night. When their shift was over, and mine was ending. They would be stopping by to pick up quarts or 12 packs. Their work shift was over. \n\nI got invited several times by them to go morning drinking. I never did though. Usually by that time, all I wanted to do is go home, eat food and play some Total War.", "But they all look so healthy", "Do people really use heroin so casual? Isn't heroin extremely addictive and using it incapitates you for several minutes?", "It used to be so horrible. Some bars were literal smoke clouds. Coming home smelling like an ashtray.", "Been there done that when working nights and getting off work.", "A lot of heroin users are quite high functioning; like, office workers who are sort of micro-dosing through their days. It's surprising.", "I can't believe I'm old enough to have forgotten about Morphine. Such a groove band. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wI5hxEguomo", "I know dude. My thoughts exactly. I saw them live around 95? 96? and perked up when I heard the familiar bass line.", "Fantastic documentary. Was going to just check out if it was worth watching. 20 minutes later I have to conclude I’m hooked", "Bro, most restaurants allowed smoking inside in my state in the early 2000's. It wasn't until 2011 or something that it was banned.", "I mean, it should really be called \"i asked some drunk people in New York bars questions at 9am\" its about as annoying as it sounds.", "Yea, I clicked this and was kind of excited. And I think back when I was younger, it would have been interesting. Being older though, I've been in too many of these settings, had these conversations, and there's no novelty to any of it. No romance. Nobody is saying anything interesting and it just reminds me of thousands of benign drunk conversations I've had that I never would have tolerated sober.", "In the morning morning in NYC.", "> and play some Total War.\n\nMy Man!", "This. To call it a documentary is definitely a stretch. Just your typical drunk conversations but at 9 am instead of 1 am", "Yeah, I just grabbed the title from the video and didn't notice it till after I had submitted.", "I used to get a ride to work at 7:30 AM with some of my co workers and one morning, as we drove past a bar that had it's front door open, we could see our boss sitting inside, on a barstool, hunched over a drink. He walked into work a few minutes after we did, like always.", "This is an interview with a high functioning addict: https://youtu.be/l9Z1uTX7z58\n\nI highly recommend Soft White Underbelly for its interview style and focus on difficult subjects.", "That old lady Voice in the intro could be Frank Reynolds!", "A lot of drugs are more addictive then heroin. pulling stats out of my ass but something like 85% who use heroin are never addicted to it. \n\nCigarettes' the number is like 65%.", "As a recovering alcoholic, this doesn't really make sense to me. I never drank at bars, why the hell would I? The drinks are more expensive, you don't get served as fast or often as you want, you have to worry about who is seeing you there, and you have to worry about getting home. I hit the liquor store and drank at home, or carried a pint with me and took swigs as the opportunities presented itself. Bars are for getting out of the house and socializing, two things you don't want to do when you're an alcoholic." ]	34	videos	First Call: A Documentary About People Who Drink in Bars in the Morning AM in NYC
https://youtu.be/VPD0flPczEM	/r/videos/comments/rbgkhn/meow/	[ "Awww isn't that cu- WTF", "OP, you might enjoy Cyriak's Welcome to Kitty City:\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX3iLfcMDCw", "Oh yeah, seen and enjoyed" ]	3	videos	Meow
https://youtu.be/Ei2cD61Je7A	/r/videos/comments/rbgofw/ryan_reynolds_maximum_80s_youtube/	[ "That was quite a mashup that brought back a lot of memories.", "Ads were great but Ryan Reynolds’s is annoying. He plays the exact same character - Ryan Reynolds - in everything. It was funny 12 years ago. Now he’s just old, balding, and annoying.", "It worked for Will Ferrel.", "That's Joe Isuzu on the elevator!", "But it doesn't work for Ryan cause he's the human version of cardboard." ]	6	videos	Ryan Reynolds - Maximum 80s - YouTube
https://youtu.be/0LBJoj4Vyb0	/r/videos/comments/rbgx19/george_harrisons_last_words_to_ringo_starr/	[ "He always just wanted to play music with his friends, all he ever wanted to do.", "One might almost think there's some new Beatles film that is being released.", "George said something similar after Lennon was shot\n\n>Harrison later privately told friends, \"I just wanted to be in a band. Here we are, 20 years later, and some whack job has shot my mate. I just wanted to play guitar in a band.\"", "Barbara F#cking Walters in here!", "Stooop it with the fucking shill videos to promote movies please", "This comment ^ is an exact copy-paste of the second top comment on the YouTube video (that is over a year old).\n\nI have seen this quite often on Reddit, is this a bot?", "No, just people with no creativity or any capacity for generating thoughts of their own, coupled with a hope of getting little points next to the comments they paste in.", "Or maybe, just maybe, the Beatles are in the public conscious so people are seeking out mor content relating to them.", "that’s heartbreaking", "I love how OP's comment history has nothing at all to indicate they are a shill, but somehow you went there anyway. By your logic, you can't really post anything about anything, otherwise you are \"shilling\". Looks to me like you are clearly on the \"South Park Phone\" payroll.", "Haha this is the case for all their comments check their history...", "This", "Fair point, I don't know", "Man. Everyone dissing \"get back\" and saying this is on the front page to promote it can seriously fuck off. It's a beautiful video from a man who was one of the reasons for rock and roll today. Who can seriously be so petty about the Beatles ?!", "That was my first thought too. But I don't care. It means the Beatles are on people's minds. A lot of the movie-focused YouTube channels tend to talk about stuff just before there's a sequel or reboot. It makes sense.", "What about it is shilling? You lot must be real dull to think that. Beatles are one of the most beloved bands of all time, why wouldn’t people want to see more content about them? If you don’t like it, you lot can go look somewhere else then 🤷🏻‍♂️", "You're right! That also means there's a lot of people WATCHING that film and wanting to post things they learn. What a fucking world.", "After watching Get Back I have a whole new respect for Ringo. He seemed like the only one that enjoyed being there the whole time. It didn't even look like he was \"at work.\"", "Did we watch the same doc? It absolutely looked like he was just there to play the drums and not talk. Looked very bored.", "Hadn’t he already quit the band once too? Can’t remember if it was him or George who quit/came back first.", "He arrives on time. He compliments Paul playing piano and says he could sit and watch him for hours. He's supportive of George and his songwriting. He's plays with the camera and hangs with the production crew. At one point he lets out a fart and announces it to the room. I just think he was the most laid back of all four.", "He was def the glue. Paul and Ringo seemed like the most likeable honestly. Ive always hated Yoko and therefor Lennon by proxy. Love George but a little too introverted. Ringo and Paul always seemed the best to have a pint with.", "Forreal, he was such a likable guy. He did play the drums, but he was so much more than that. \n\nMy favorite scene is when he’s showing the band “Octopus’s Garden” and John totally writes it off. Dingo is over the moon about the song though. But George genuinely sees something in it and helps him perfect it and helps turn it into a song. It’s such a sweet moment with the band that nobody really got to see much of before", "Yeah, Ringo left for a week or so during the White Album sessions. I think they mentioned it in the Get Back doc but Ive also heard it was overblown and mostly he just needed a short break", "Paul was criticizing his drumming, so he quit the band for two weeks and took a vacation. Actually, it was during that vacation he wrote Octopus Garden. But, he rejoined two weeks later and he discovered, George covered his drums in flowers.", "If it makes me a shill to post a video of one of my favorite drummers remembering the last time his closest friend spoke to him, while dying of cancer and couldn't even leave the bed, knowing Ringos daughter had a brain tumor, but never wanting to leave his brother. Sure, call me whatever you want.", "It's like when you go on r/television and people are talking about television. What's the deal with that?", "This reminds me of documentary The Bee Gees: How Can You Mend A Broken Heart on HBO. At the end, Barry Gibb reflects on his family's success and says he'd trade it all to have his brothers back since they were so close and he's the last one alive. Really heartbreaking.", "Beautiful.", "Even if they had a history of promoting things, a shill is only a bad thing if they are being paid to do it. If it's just someone who loves the Beatles or whatever band, company, celebrity, whatever and so they share content and thereby promote them they aren't really a shill. A shill receives compensation, free product or a shoutout or SOMETHING.", "He seemed very thoughtful. He didn't say much, but he was always paying attention. I've only seen part 1, but I came away liking Ringo quite a lot.", "Ringo best controlled his ego. He was always level headed in the doc", "As much as I love the Beatles, very little of it is for John. He was a admitted wife beater. The lyric:\n\n> I used to be cruel to my woman, I beat her and kept her apart from the things that she loved\n\nIs autobiographical and he just wasn't the greatest of people.", "Right? I'll shill for The Beatles all day long for nothing, because I fucking LOVE them.", "When I see someone like Ringo about to cry, it breaks me.", "You can’t swear on the internet", "It's amazing to me that he didn't have an incredibly hatred for George after George and Ringo's wife at the time had an affair. I don't think I'd be able to forgive and forget, personally.", "oh wow that little known fact" ]	38	videos	George Harrisons last words to Ringo Starr.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ei2cD61Je7A	/r/videos/comments/rbhm7v/maximum_80s/	[ "Carlton, Bob Vila, AND the Kool-Aid Man? This, more of this please.", "This is an aviation gin commercial. It's a very good commercial and I enjoyed it but I still felt like the title was misleading.", "I am glad you enjoyed it.", "It felt a little weird saying I liked a commercial but yeah, very well done. From one marketing person to maybe another, kudos. It didn't even bank on Ryan Reynolds voice in the first 30 seconds, very bold move there Cotton.", "This a fucking ad for gin", "There was no sexual intercourse in the video.", "It is not my video." ]	7	videos	Maximum 80s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4sB4endNFI	/r/videos/comments/rbhs94/the_7th_annual_muffin_tier_list_dunkey/	[ "My favorite annual tradition!", "Pull apart muffin? That sounds good as hell! Warm it up and put some butter in between. Perfection!", "Has dunkey had many other paid sponsors in a video before?", "still shaking after watching the vid. The first strand type muffin", "Yep! A few times. Most of them have been Raycon, and every sponsor ad has been funny as hell.\n\nHe's one of the only YouTubers where, when I see he's sponsored, I actually look forward to the end because his ad is so damn funny. [Here's](https://youtu.be/d97XsNAvKAo?t=572) a really good one.", "I'm willing to bet that Dunkey came up with this entire video because he and Leah got into an argument about if an English muffin is a muffin and couldn't decide.", "Poor, American bastards don't know about biscuits. Once you've had a Chocolate Bourbon then you'll forget about muffins. Or even once you've had a Pink Wafers, or Ginger Nuts. Possibly even a few Party Rings. \n\n\nTsk, muffins. SMH.", "What do you mean, I love biscuits! Especially with some good sausage gravy.", "I would've just stretched it across all the tiers. It really depends what you do with it that determines it's place", "He won't do it.", "Someone told me that the gravy in biscuits and gravy isn't actually gravy and is more like some kind of white, dog-sick. Is that true?", "As somebody who is very proudly not an American, grow up dude.", "Don't take things so seriously my friend. It's the Internet", "I stopped watching his videos after he said he didn't like cheesecake", "Left muffin looks like a face.", "I like Dunkeys plugs, but Big Money Salvia is the ad king.", "Oh oh oh hold on a minute. He doesn’t like Cheesecake? I’m gonna need an 11 minute explainer about this", "Double chocolate easily C tier, too much chocolate.", "I'd like to shout out You Suck at Cooking for making their ad content just as enjoyable as their actual content.", "This mf'er really said he doesn't like cheesecake?? What in the goddamn fuck... And he didn't even include the actual best muffin, which is the cinnamon muffin", "Map Men see a challenge!", "Heresy", "Hershey", "Adding poached egg to the top makes it squarely not a muffin, but an S-tier piece of bread.", "Eggs Benedict gang represent", "Maybe my favorite breakfast of all time but I've also had a good amount of really bad ones.", "Facts. It's all in the hollandaise sauce!", "Do not underestimate the hate you will receive for dissing on some good ol biscuits n gravy.", "Hmm, not sure I agree. The hollandaise is obviously super important and probably the biggest make-or-break, but is there a segment of the eggs bene that can be forgiven to screw up?\n\nThe eggs can't be over or undersalted, can't be over or undercooked. The english muffin can even be screwed up sometimes if it's soggy or from a bad brand or something.\n\nEven the potatoes! I've had some that were bland as hell or fried in the wrong kind of oil, and I've had some that were waaaay oversalted.\n\nI've had bene that have screwed up each individually and it hurt the experience. I've also had some that screwed it all up and I was so sad lol.", "You make a good point. The quality of the eggs can just as easily ruin the dish for me as well. Though I'm not as adamant on the seasonings of the egg, if I don't receive a perfectly runny sunny side up egg with my Benedict... Well I'm definitely not having a very bright time I'll say that much.", "the man is nothing if not delusional", "listen, if it didn't make dunkey's list then it obviously didn't belong there. the man does not make mistakes.", "double chocolate is a common favorite of serial killers but I'm sure that's a coincidence", "mail me some of these so that I may science", "I used to watch these with my nana and pop pop", "Rycon for sure" ]	34	videos	The 7th annual Muffin tier list - dunkey
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Rl_PEtnqINg	/r/videos/comments/rbi3v2/alex_baldwins_gun_explanation_for_directors_death/	[ "He should.", "No of course not. It wasn't his fault. Poor guy is a wreck. Could you imagine? I don't think the news or anyone ever really considers his emotional distress. He looks like crap. Probably feels worse.\n\nGranted, the victim and her family have it infinitely worse off.\n\nIt's a terrible situation all around. Why the hell is anyone even giving a crap about whether or not he's going or should go to jail? When it's clearly beyond his control and clearly not his fault?\n\nThe world is a bunch of ravenous vultures I swear. Hoping everyone else suffers with them I guess.", "His refusal to take responsibility for his actions is shameful.", "Baldwin is liberal and has said critical things about gun culture. Now that he has accidentally killed someone the people whose entire personality is based around that same culture and \"pissing off libtards\" will hound him forever", "Negligent Homicide is a thing.", "Not that they weren't trying to give him shit beforehand. He dared mock Sweet Potato Hitler.", "How was he hitler?", "How are you not?", "Are you really asking me how I’m not Hitler?", "Are you actually asking me how someone is?", "I think it’ll be impossible to charge him with negligent homicide though. The person who loaded the gun, or the person who handed it to him would be charge me for negligent homicide before he is. \n\nEspecially because they use dummy rounds that are purposely made to look real for close up shots. Alec isn’t expected to be able to tell the difference. That’s why the position of prop master exists. \n\nCompound that with the cinematographer telling him where to point the gun to get the desired shot and prompting him to cock the gun to make sure you could see the cylinder cycle in the shot. \n\nLastly I would like to see a full report on the gun. If live rounds were able to make it onto set and into the gun. I’m highly suspicious if that gun passes a functions check. I would not be surprised if the gun was not properly maintained and maintenanced. If the gun wasn’t supposed to even shoot blanks, idk why the firing pin on the hammer wasn’t filed down. Now THATS what sounds negligent", "If you're holding something potentially deadly, and have control over whether it can be used in a deadly fashion, it's on you if something deadly happens with it.\n\nSay you're sitting in the driver seat of a car, and don't know how to operate it, and accidentally run somebody over, and kill them. You never had any intention of running them over, but you still did. You could have hit the brakes, but maybe you didn't know how. It's still negligent homicide.", "You are changing the scenario entirely.", "Lets say you're an actor on set who can't drive and the person in charge of safety tells you to get in the car you will film in. They tell you the car doesn't have a motor, the movement is all done by greenscreen so you're safe. Then you practise the gas pedals to figure out how to make it seem real but the car begins moving and runs over a member of the set. Would you really not consider the guy who said the car didn't have the motor to be 100% responsible?", "This video doesn’t go into anything legally relevant to “going to jail” such as the mental state required for various types of homicide.\n\nThis video uses a click bait thumb nail to generate views on mediocre content. A much better video on this topic is https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wXmAeMQCvZQ", "I hate how everything has to be political. Half the dummies don't even know what they're talking about. Probably more than half. They're just sheep. I mean this on all ends of the political spectrum too.\n\nI need a good, funny, news site again. One not about celebrities and how much they aren't wearing. What happened to all the good news?", "See how good he was at being like Hitler? Many Germans also didn't realize what was so bad about Hitler at first. Really good at brainwashing.", "Yea and I hate to say this but if you are standing in a dangerous spot, you're knowingly putting yourself at risk.\n\nThink about this. Another horrible situation. Someone crosses train tracks and gets hit... Terrible for the train conductor who sees it and can't do a thing about it. Impossible to stop the train. Can't do a thing. They aren't charged with negligent homicide. That's not how it works.\n\nThe reality is the person crossing the train tracks should have known better. It would be the train company at fault, potentially, if they didn't have proper signage and protective fencing and so on.\n\nHe was handed a prop. That was supposedly checked. He pointed at a camera. Not a person. A person just so happened to be behind it.\n\nWhy didn't they have a prop model and fake wooden or plastic gun model to line up their shot? He could have stood on the same spot afterwards when no one was behind the camera.\n\nI don't know how filming movies works of course. But clearly everyone believed a reasonable amount of safety. The negligence isn't at that point in time. It's before. The negligence is on the armorer or other people.\n\nSo it's not negligent homicide. Neither is your scenario. Your scenario is inaccurate because if you don't know how to operate a car, then you're driving without a license. That's illegal. It still may be manslaughter, but it's not negligent homicide. You know you don't know how to operate the car and you know you don't have a license, but you did it anyway. Or you sat in the driver's seat. This isn't that at all. Different scenario.", "Really good at brainwashing isn’t enough to be called Hitler." ]	19	videos	Alex Baldwin's gun explanation for directors death is live-fire tested
https://youtu.be/BskKbs_BHNg	/r/videos/comments/rbiex7/frank_sinatra_and_elvis_presley_duet/	[ "Edward? Is that you? Fucking vampires.", "Elvis sounds weak next to Frank", "Elvis could belt. I think here Sinatra’s part is in the sweet part of his voice range but it’s a little lower than Elvis’s preferred range, so he’s struggling a bit.", "Would love to see this colorised and upscaled." ]	4	videos	Frank Sinatra and Elvis Presley duet
https://youtu.be/HIp_rju1P-g	/r/videos/comments/rbijkn/letterkenny_season_10_katys_big_tarts/	[ "That’s whats I respects abouts you Katy.", "You's uhhh.... tryin to provoke me here?", "Give your fucking balls a tug", "Fuck you Shoresy!", "As a Canadian who frequently travels in Southern USA, I find it hilarious that so many folk down there know about Letterkenny and think it to be similar to where I'm from.\n\nOf course, the only thing proper to do is to break into a full-on small-town Ontario accent and have at 'er, bud.", " Fuck you, HandRailSuicide1, your mom molested me two Halloweens ago, shut the fuck up or I’m taking it to Twitter.", "Gotta love Katy’s BIG TARTS", "Is that whats you respects about her?", "You're fuckin' 10-ply bud.", "“Fuck Lemony Snicket, what sorta series of unfortunate events you been through, ya ugly fuck!?”", "You'll actually find much the same reception (albeit the crowd would probably be a bit older now) for the Red Green Show. It aired for ages in the Ozarks and other public television stations in the South, and the men of Possum Lake would be natural fits down here.\n\nAt the end of the day, about the only meaningful distinction between rural Southerners and rural Ontarians is swapping football and hockey and differing the flavor of chips.", "Why don't you go ahead and take 25 to 27 percent off there, bud.", "I see the muscle shirt came today. Muscles coming tomorrow? Did ya get a tracking number? Oh, I hope he got a tracking number. That package is going to be smaller than the one you’re sportin’ now.", "I see Letterkenny posted a lot, but don't find any of the clips funny at all... Is it a cultural difference thing? I don't have that problem with other North American shows.", "> North American shows.\n\nNorth America extends from Panama to Greenland.", "Grew up on Red Green in Ga, TIL that was a Canadian production.", "hell, the way things are going, give it 30 years and it's going to be hockey in the south and football in Ontario", "You smells a lots like a degens from upcountrys", "I wants some big tarts now.\n\nFor those that haven't had a butter tart before, you are missing out.", "You must have never watched Canadian comedy TV before.", "I’d say so. I was pretty unfamiliar with the humor and culture but it really grew on me the more I watched it. \n\nBut that’s coming in as an American. So even for me, I didn’t immediately get it but it was still kind of funny in a curious kind of way. \n\nA lot of the jokes are heavily reliant on English (and sometimes French) wordplay and innuendo. Like to the point where I, as a native speaker, still have trouble sometimes picking up on jokes.", "It is like the Canadian version of the town I grew up in. Similar people and situations. I love it because I can relate to so much in it.", "That was me trying to say USA and Canada lol. Yeah, should have thought this through.", "It's actually all on YouTube and they regularly post \"new\" content too!", "I'm sure I've seen Canadian series before, but not comedy like that. I consider my sense of humour quite 'flexible' but I don't get this type of comedy, I tried.", "That makes sense.", "Gotcha. Makes sense, especially if the wordplay is localised with references to the local culture.", "Oh hockey is already here. Nashville Predator fans are fucking ruthless. During big games literally everyone place in town will be sold out of catfish lol. \n\nAlso the Huntsville Havoc minor league team is really popular.", "I grew up in rural southern Ontario and there are many many similarities to my area. Not the meth goths but pretty much everything else", "Don't forget we had Kurt Russell's son playing for the UAH Chargers!", "So no this hour has 22 minutes\n\nIt's a lot of hick humor. It's a country thing.", "Did not know that! I see him in movies all the damn time. Crazy he played for UAH.", "wtf happened to the lighting and sound on this show? looks like shit sounds like shit. Script is still perfect.", "it's a lot funnier if you either grew up in a two-light town or watch hockey", "Yup. Kurt would rent out the entire top floor of the Westin hotel here during every home game.", "TBH I physically cannot put myself in the headspace of not finding [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q47Uq96lILA) funny at all", "You're not alone. It's incredibly unfunny and all the clips posted are essentially the same joke", "I honestly tried. Nope, nothing.\n\nThis is sort of stuff I find hilarious https://youtu.be/5u4hAxi5b6o", "I said the same thing but after 30 seconds or so it just kinda felt right. Less tv showish if that makes sense.", "As someone who loves the show I felt like the writing started to go downhill in Season 7. Kinda felt less like rural shooting the shit, and more the writers going for the one liners that fans love to quote at each other. I haven't watched season 8 or 9 yet as a result.\n\nis it worth it to push through season 7 to watch season 8 & 9 or is it more of the same?", "It's kind of refreshing when someone says they don't like something, then posts a link of something they do like. \n\n\"Then where's the dog?\" That was a funny clip.", "Between the strong accents, rapid-fire delivery, and the unfamiliar cultural references, 50% of it flies over my head. But I can see that it's very well written. I can only take a scene or two in a sitting, 'cause it makes me concentrate too hard trying to keep up.\n\nIf I ever met these characters, they'd mock me for being slow. \"The fun thing about talking smack about this guy is he doesn't understand a single word. Just smile and nod, chickenstalker. That's right. Smile and nod.\"", "I can imagine a lot of Americans might not get that initially.\n\nOn the other hand, I've watched enough UK TV ~~porn~~ to have started snickering right away.", "Honestly I would have said season 5 or 6.", "You wanna take about 20% off there good buddy", "Basketball is/will take over Ontario before football I think.", "Shoulda heard your mom last night, she sounded like my great aunt when I pop in for a surprise visit, like, ‘Oooh!", "That's pretty much my feeling too, except I've felt that way since episode 2 of Letterkenny Problems" ]	48	videos	Letterkenny Season 10 - Katy’s Big Tarts
https://youtu.be/Udvzx0vNjLA	/r/videos/comments/rbj5lu/dr_channard_vs_cenobites_hellraiser_ii/	[ "Back then. We did not get big monsters versus monsters or demons versus demon fight scenes. But this was epic by itself.", "Nothing will ever beat Hellraiser and the care put into it. Let alone the shock of seeing original things, everything can be done these days…with very little thought put into it.", "I agree with you on that. Back when movies didn't have the advancements that they have now. Movies like these are still amazing.", "Really are, never knew what you were going to see!", "Definitely.", "This terrified me as a kid.", "They are doing a series, one on Hulu and the other will eventually be on HBO Max.", "Wait, two series'?", "Yeah, the one on Hulu will be out first though, the HBO one is still in early production. David Gordon Green who did the new Halloween films is producing it for HBO." ]	10	videos	Dr. Channard vs Cenobites (Hellraiser II)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpjqbvLkPUw&ab_channel=PowerofBanana	/r/videos/comments/rbjvi2/this_fake_video_with_1m_views_and_26k_upvotes_is/	[ "Where are you getting that this video is fake? This very much happened.", "Try the extension", "Someone dubbed their own voice over the better.com CEO firing to get some sympathy points? The weird thing is the comments are just an echo chamber of support so at face value you can't really tell the video is fake.", "I mean it doesn't add or subtract anything from the topic and they aren't begging for money in the comments, so it really doesn't matter if they dubbed it or not.", "Who cares, the video itself isn’t fake and im sure plenty of the laid off workers are thinking exactly what the overdub is saying.", "The real version is a guy reacting to the video. This woman dubbed her own voice over it and you can hear it cut out.", "Download the extension/add-on", "Start making dislike comments and liking them to the top comment.", "we sqid it a billion times now, open your goddamn ears : do not add engagement on bad videos. a comment is engagement even if its bad. got it? ok bad to your class." ]	9	videos	This fake video with 1m views and 2.6k upvotes is exactly why we need dislikes.
https://youtu.be/UgCYD0OLvlA	/r/videos/comments/rbmj2g/rosanne_s8_ep25_rosanne_finds_out_that_after_a/	[ "What would you like to see?", "A video that doesn't feature a horrible human being.", "Horrible or someone who has been chemically imbalanced since the first time you ever heard of her?", "Thanks but no.", "I appreciate the art.", "That’s usually how it works. Then some people upvote it and some people downvote it. Then some people comment and some people reply. Is this your first time on Reddit?", "I despise the bigot.", "An interesting apology for her being a bigot.", "I'm not exactly a fan. This is a fantastically acted well written scene. I can appreciate that.", "I don't like bigots who act well because their real selves contribute to human suffering.", "I don't like bigots who act well.\n\nWe agree.\n\nAre you not familiar with the art vs the artist debate?\n\nI'm not telling you what side I'm on on this issue, I'm just asking if you are new to the discussion because the way you are presenting it, it seems like you might be.\n\nTo give a little background, this is an ongoing debate that has persisted in the popular consciousness for decades now and still hasn't really been resolved. There's been a huge, ongoing discussion about it and I'll be honest... I'm not exactly sure how I feel. \n\nLindsey Ellis actually does a great video about it - and she makes a very good point that it can be difficult to enjoy a piece of artwork when you know the artist is a scum bag. Because it's hard to disassociate the two. When I watch this scene, I am watching the character of Rosanne in the TV show Rosanne performing an exceptional scene. While at the same time I am fully aware that the real person Rosanne Barr made extremely insulting and racist comments. \n\nI've thought a little bit about this and my conclusion is that the human mind is the most complex thing in our known universe. It would be silly to suggest that one brain can't be capable of incredible beauty while at the very same time incredibly disgusting behavior. It's hard to argue that the disgusting behavior somehow changes the meaning of beauty or our perception of it. \n\nI mean shit - welcome to the conversation about art vs the artist I guess... I could literally sit here and spend 5 hours writing about it... many have.", "I don't support bigoted artists if I know they're horrible people. I'll take no action that in even a remote way might benefit the horrible person. That includes upvoting a viral video of a past work of the horrible person who also happens to be an artist.\n\nBy the same token, I'm no longer going to share my prior joy of The Cosby Show and of Cosby's past standup comic performances. They are dead to me.", "Do you think by posting this video of an episode of the Rosanne TV show 30 years old, a TV show that recently returned to broadcast, but was quickly stripped of it's problematic star in anyway benefits the nearly 70 year old star who has no chance of capitalizing on this show any longer?\n\nI think at this point you are beginning to tilt at windmills.\n\nAnd you've pretty much established that you find yourself incapable of enjoying a piece of art if you know the artist is a problem (in whatever capacity that may be). I can.\n\nI am able to look at something on it's own and separate in my mind, the person and the art. The problem here is that you believe I somehow facilitate racism by doing this because I am somehow providing tacit support for the racist. Even though it's fairly clear here that whatever support this show might have provided Rosanne Barr has long since been exhausted.", "I am unclear what about my previous comments you misunderstood. I don't support bigots in any way, shape, or form. It is a moral issue for me. Liking or sharing a video featuring a bigot's TV show that even showcases the bigot's name qualifies. Have a cool day.", "I think I understood your comment and I thought I covered your position?\n\nDoes me sharing this video support Rosanne Barr in any way? Now that the show is 30 years old, she was kicked off the reprisal.", ">Does me sharing this video support Rosanne Barr in any way?\n\nYes.", "How?", "Sharing her video, or upvoting it, contributes to a positive public perception of a despicable human being, one who could attempt a revival of her career if popular opinion changes enough. You are supporting a bigot. This is not difficult to figure out. It's basic. Good day, sir.", "A) Bringing attention to this 30 year old performance is not going to somehow absolve her or change people's perceptions of her. Anyone who had never seen or heard of this performance before who had previously seen her racist rants aren't suddenly going to have a change of heart about Rosanne Barr.\n\nB) The show was already revived - specifically this show - and because of her racist rants, she was kicked off of this show and the name was changed. She's 70 years old, her career is over.", "I SAID, GOOD DAY!", "\"You seem happy to provide tacit support for racists - ACCEPT THE ACCUSATION GOOD DAY\"", "You should feel bad for the human being you've become. Enjoy your 0 points for your submission." ]	23	videos	Rosanne S8 Ep25: Rosanne finds out that after a heart attack, Dan hasn't been sticking to his prescribed diet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_a5WSQRUItQ	/r/videos/comments/rbokpb/kitten_glad_to_find_human_after_semeru_eruption/	[ "Poor thing's probably hungry as heck. Kitties are voracious eaters at that age.", "All I can think about is what happened to the rest of its kitty family :/\nPoor baby", "Lol he's telling the kitten to go home", "Least compassionate reaction from someone finding an animal after a disaster sheesh", "And just puts it back on the ground", "A little over a year ago, I was sitting in my yard one evening (I'm on a corner lot surrounded by land) when from the darkness emitted a very similar cry. I immediately jumped up from my seat and went towards the sound, when suddenly, out of the darkness appeared a tiny little kitten such as this. \n\nShe was a little beat up - the terrain is pretty rough around here. I have no idea where she came from. I tried to walk through the dark, brushy area behind my house to see if there were any other kitties. She even made that specific 'cry' as I walked with her a bit, asking her to take me to the rest of her kin. \n\nAnyhow, I did not come across any other kittens. Her sudden appearance is still a mystery, especially because there are an abundance of wild pigs, coyotes, snakes, scorpions, etc. all around me. \n\nThat little girl ate and ate and ate and ate some more! After a month of getting her fat and healthy, I adopted her out to a very nice man who I kept in contact with for a few days to ensure that she was in a good and proper home. \n\nInitially, she was supposed to be for his niece, except, the kitten began to bond with him. I mentioned how she seemed to only want food from me, even though I spent the most time nursing her back to health, yet she liked the male housemate better. \n\nThe fellow said, \"Yeh, she is definitely food-oriented. She's just like me\"! \n\nWe had a good laugh at that, and I was most content knowing that kitten was in a good and safe home where she could continue with her eating and eating and eating and eating...", "Careful it doesn't reach the point of \"Oh lawd he comin\" chonker candidacy. :-)\n\nNice story with a happy finish. Win x 4 - kitty, you, her adopter, and us for reading it.", "My man picked him up like he dropped his keys lmao", "Back into the volcano kitty.", "I don't speak Indonesian, what was the cat saying?", "Is that how you think that works? People don't just sit down in front of a map and say \"yeah let's build here next to this active volcano.\"", "Susu! Cuching kecil! My best guess, and probably wrong... But that's about my Indonesian limits unless you want to hear me count to 10. Also, I just realized that I've never actually typed out what little I do know.", "Heartbreaking :(", "I have a senior cat (will turn 14 on 12/10) who throws himself into his meals with the urgency of a kitten. A remarkable sight.", "Fuck this guy 😤", "I mean he still picked it up and will probably get it somewhere safe, he's just clearly not an animal lover.", "Fingers crossed", "I don't speak indonesian so he could be saying \"hey look! dinner just arrived\" and I have no idea, but the video doesn't give that indication at all.\n\nWhat it looks like is that this guy is surveying what could be the destruction of his home or town. People he knew could be dead. You are criticizing him for not immediately hugging and soothing a kitten? Based on this comment, it looks like you are one without compassion my friend.\n\nIf you are being sarcastic, then you can ignore this.", "Looked like he picked that kitten up and put them into his inventory.", "I'm not saying he did anything wrong he just doesn't seem like an animal lover but he still picks it up and will presumably get it somewhere safe.", "lets come home , he found at the house . before got volcano erruption \n maybe the person want to treat food to the kitten.", "he never feeds the kitten just throws it back to die he tells it to go home", "I feel like I know exactly what he's saying even though o don't understand a word of his language", "The place reminds me of resident evil for some reason", "That's how I do it in civ 6 for that science bonus tile", "Just from the little experience I have through traveling: In a lot of places like this the Kitten will already be separated from its family and owned by someone that lived (lived?) there. I’ve met a bunch of people that had kittens or puppies way younger than you’d be allowed to buy in places like the US or Europe", "Oh that's sad too. All the how to cat skills and development they would miss out on.", "Oh look. Breakfast.", "Human completely indifferent to find kitten after semeru eruption", ">What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills.", "[https://edition.cnn.com/2021/12/04/asia/indonesia-mount-semeru-eruption-intl/index.html](https://edition.cnn.com/2021/12/04/asia/indonesia-mount-semeru-eruption-intl/index.html)", "He's not speaking Indonesian. He's speaking Javanese. He sees the cat and says \"go home, little one\" and then \"I am holding this cat, look at the condition of his place\"", "Holy shit man, thank God. You wouldn't believe the shit I've been through. Got anything to eat?", "Poor little guy. Looks like he was having a really rough time.", "Sounds about right", "Lmao.", "He's saying \"come, lets go home\"", "\"I found a cat. Come, let's go home\"", "Hah, I thought he was saying something similar. I figured it was, \"I'm on my way home and I found this\", but my BI is terrible.", "That cat looks at least 6 weeks old, which is usually enough time for them to move on from their Momma.\n\nThey gotta usually hook onto a human about that age for food and pats.", "This deserves to go straight to the top of \nr/catswhoyell", "Similiar thing happened to me, but there were 3 of them in my backyard. Could barely walk, eyes were open but ears weren't totally unfurled yet. Just CRYING their eyes out and practically crawling up my leg looking for someone to help them. \n \nI felt terrible, but I know sometimes momma cats take longer than their kittens would like so I left them out there the entire day. About 12 hours. \n \nI couldn't even go in my backyard because I didn't want to scare Mom away if she showed back up and I just couldn't hear them crying. It was soul crushing. \n \nFinally when it started to get cold that night I was like, fuck it. Went out, managed to find all 3 even though they had all traveled quite a bit from where I found them (still in the yard but they were itty bitty). Bought some kitten formula and did my best to not get attached to them because I know kitten mortality is high even the best of circumstances. \n \nOne had a bad eye infection, one a big ol cut right above her nose, one was sooo small and skinny. I wasn't sure any of them would make it. \n \nBut as I type this I have one kitty cuddled up in my lap while the other two are being rowdy little fuckers playing with the toys I got them. They're finally weaned and everyone is healthy and ornery. Little shits. Coincidentally anyone want a cat. \n \nEdit: [Cat tax](https://imgur.com/a/KjXbUZl) if anyone wants to see babes. I didn't take a lot of pics when they were real little, because again, I didn't know if their story would have a happy ending. Also they were really wiggly and hard to get a picture of lol first one is one of the first pics I took maybe a week or so after I found them, and second one is a more recent pic of two of them.", "I love this little story! This makes my day! <3 <3 <3" ]	43	videos	Kitten glad to find human after semeru eruption
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gmaBeVZn5o	/r/videos/comments/rbonhe/lewis_black_the_rant_is_due_best_of_the_bible/	[ "Laughing at the insanity was fun until these damn people got power and their alternate reality became the new rules.", "I never kept up with his work, but every time I see something of his I'm pretty entertained.", "As a believer in god, F* the church corruption. F* their whole lives, because they have fucked the entire lives of others believing and making monetary cuntrebutions to fuel more F'd stuff to happen. Things that have influenced all of us left and right.. even without our realization...\n\nIf I grew up in a nice white-picketed town, where a whole town would go to church. And you'd be friendly with every single neighbor and it was nice and tightly-nit.. and I would find out that our priest shoved his old dick in my sons face at the age of 10.. are you KIDDing me (pun intended).. that person and church would burn.. Some Biblical shit would go down.." ]	3	videos	Lewis Black \| The Rant Is Due best of the Bible
https://youtu.be/izFfk-5z3J0	/r/videos/comments/rbqgwr/dressing_in_renaissance_italy/	[ "Man, so Da Vinci was kind of a dick, huh?", "Someone needs to make a modern parody of this that's like 10 seconds long and just shows someone putting on shorts and a T", "I will never understand how they wore all that shit back then, especially in Italy. It’s unbearably hot there.", "narrator: 'At the time, smartphones had become quite popular. It wasn't uncommon for a person to stare at one for a large duration of the time they should have been spending getting dressed. All at once, she sees the time and realized there are only minutes to spare. Soft, unimpressive garments called sweats, short for sweatshirts or sweatpants, were often hastily strewn on. Mid stride, a pair of shoes that were scarce more than a flat rubber material with a thin strap between the toes were slipped on. These were called 'flip flops' because of the sound they made as a person walked. Knitted hats intended to cover up greasy, un-made hair were typical. The ensemble completed, the woman is now ready to go to a class at the local university or even board an airplane for flight. '", "Man…I thought it was gonna be about food… 😔", "Not anymore or any less than any man of genius during his time.", "Yeah, during July and August. I live in Florence and it's fucking 5 degrees celsius with high humidity right now.", "Yeah, but during those months, what would they wear? That's my question.", "This was great, it made my reminiscent of playing AC2", "According to [this random pdf](https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/11/2/024001/pdf) I found online, the temperature in Florence during the 16th and 17th centuries was quite a bit lower on average than current temperatures.", "It’s cool to know they actually tied on their sleeves. You always see TV/movie costumes with the gaps and it’s kind of cool to know why they look that way. I always assumed they were sewn with the gaps.", "wasn't there a 'little ice age' back then? Or has that idea been debunked/", "she wears it well", "Well now I know. That’s really interesting. I always assumed it was hot in spring and summer" ]	14	videos	Dressing in Renaissance Italy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rl_PEtnqINg	/r/videos/comments/rbrwle/alec_baldwins_claim_is_livefire_tested/	[ "Alec Baldwin will not go to jail.", "No, he did not load that gun it was supposed to be a prop gun not with live ammunition.", "Guys he made fun of our president he must suffer", "GOT EM!" ]	4	videos	Alec Baldwin's claim is live-fire tested
https://youtu.be/SYwpvfhpNJw	/r/videos/comments/rbs98b/kids_annoys_his_mum_with_trombone_sound_effects/	[ "Kid's pretty talented. And his mom is cute for playing along", "Very funny and cute!", "Fucking adorable", "Hilarious, and wholesome!!!", "I cheered when she got the slide.", "Reminds me of the [Malcolm in the Middle bit](https://youtu.be/rOUbAeJfaI0?t=73).", "That Star Wars saber battle", "As a former trombone player, I love this.", "This is always wholesome.\n\nlol - downvotes for saying wholesome. Reddit never fails to amaze.", "Got me at sad trombone.", "Dude has some chops, sounds great.", "Anyone know that song he was playing in the last clip? It's on the tip of my tongue but I just can't place it...\n\nEdit: Who the hell downvotes someone for asking a genuine question?", "Gingers can only get laid by midgets?\n\nJokes aside, these two are awesome and hilarious.", "Saw them tiktok, wholesome", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzRISEc30qw", "Seems as if she's a little mad.", "how do small lady give birth to big boy?", "Thank you . I was in desperate need of a good laugh this morning.", "perhaps you have heard of this thing called caesarean section?", "He wasn't always that big", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=is6A-T5Yiek ah", "Also.. Humans get bigger after baby stage of life.", "She is such a good sport. Very wholesome. I love it.", "As a former love player, I trombone this.", "Oh you.", "Love that last line. He was playing music while I did stuff...", "Quick, add the sad trombone part to the reddit rewind!", "Very interesting. Thank u for sharing", "or if you're asking genetically, people with dwarfism have a 75% chance of having kids with dwarfism. he is apparently the 25%.", "stop you giant ginger jackass!", "This need upvoted people, c’mon!! This is hilarious 😂 😂😂😂😂", "You suckers will believe anything. I bet you believe the earth is flat, too! /s", "the small sized kitchen really threw me off.", "As a former trombone, lovers play this.", "Strong in the force this one is.", "I am not sure i should be laughing. Its funny", "As a former player, I love tromboning this.", "Many dwarf parents have non-dwarf children.", "Sad doggo at 0:41 just wants to come inside", "Brilliant!", "Is he genetically going to be any shorter than an average human if he's in that 25%? Or is the dwarfism totally separate from... uh... regular height? I probably worded this terribly but I'm still curious", "Fucking wholesome as fuck. Goddamit.", "He did another one a couple of years ago that really showed how adorable she is. She has a great sense of humor and they seem to have a wonderful relationship. Sorry to see that her mobility is becoming so impeded.", "Fuck sarcasm tags", "I was already smiling through the video, but her laugh at the end got me. She seems like an awesome mom.", "Fuck you!", "I needed that this morning.", "or maybe she wasnt always that small ?", "r/wholesome", "That's a tiny big bed! Adorable!", "God damn the car sound effect when she's scootin down the road really got to me.", "I mean, it seems pretty obvious that she is part of the skits. I think people forget the pre-planned camera set up when watching these; they're not as spontaneous as you think.\n\nThat said...yeah. Super wholesome. Cute mom, talented kid.", "As a player tromboning, I formerly love this.", "I laughed so hard, thank you", "She's clearly doing something right for him to have such a great sense of humor.\n\nCompletely unrelated except for the title, it reminds me of the [Trumpet Boy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpFiLtJ25Ys) meme based on the photo of a kid annoying his sister. (Link is to compilation video.)", "If these aren't staged that starwars was very quick of the mark", "No, it's an on/off gene for a condition. So if your parents are 5'2\", you'll probably be short, but dwarfism is a genetic condition that affects limb growth and makes you about 4 feet tall.", "Reminds me of when SpongeBob had a slide whistle.", "This whole family is brilliant, they've all got tiktok accounts. His mum is the best 😂", "This is absolutely precious.", ">Or is the dwarfism totally separate from... uh... regular height?\n\nThis actually is the answer. I'm not knowledgeable enough to go into detail, but most forms of dwarfism (at least the kinds where you can look at someone and be like, yup they have dwarfism) are a specific genetic trait that is passed on or not. It's not as simple as the genes for body length being on the shorter end.\n\nHeight is weird though. I know so many people taller than both of their parents.", "If I was super rich, I would hire a trombone player and percussionist and follow me around all the time.", "I see this comment a lot, does that take away from the humor?", "[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUCpJM7HGKc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUCpJM7HGKc)\n\nthis is great", "I like them, they seem fun.", "Closer to Family guy: [Stewie follows fat people around with a tuba](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjetHZtehNQ).", "lol love seeing family being family", "That was so wholesome. I'll smile all day thinking about that.", "She knows something is coming, she just doesn't know what till he does it.", "I think unless it’s something outlandish like those fake cheating videos, it being set up doesn’t take away from it. Just my opinion.", "Ahha such an awosome family. That boy is pretty talented", "I was hoping to see more of that chonk on the floor at 0:05", "Here’s my take: there’s a reason ~~MTV~~ whoever the hell had millions of viewers when they introduced the show Candid Camera back in the day.\n\nIf it’s real, it’s a funny candid genuine prank. If it’s planned out, it’s just a mediocre sketch comedy video with shitty acting. I think it absolutely is funnier (for me personally) if it’s not sold as a candid video and then obviously a planned sketch.", "Well, a little. If you want us to believe it is spontaneous, then show her sleeping in a perfectly made bed. A little magic is lost.\n\nThe entire joke is him waking her up. So, not so funny to me.\n\nThey are both great and enjoyable to watch.", "Boy bands are cool. They grow up to become man bands, then dad bands, like Dadgasm.", "Players love rusty trombones?", "Who said that?", "HehHeh!\nWe did have William banging the drums!!! \nIn the basement…\nI went out many many times in those days🤩\nA trombone…??? I don’t think so. Unless I maybe put ear plugs in!!!!\nGood one Carl!📣", "Candid Camera existed decades before MTV.\n\nEdit: it first aired in 1948.", "Fuckin died at the Star Wars part, this kid is a genius.", "Kid plays a mean trombone. I never realized how versatile they are\n\nedit: downvoted for complimenting a person's trombone skills. now i've really seen it all", "MTV?", "[ Jump to 00:05 @ favorite sound effecting mom clips😇](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYwpvfhpNJw&t=0h0m5s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: Peet Montzingo, Video Popularity: 96.86%, Video Length: [58])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@00:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYwpvfhpNJw&t=0h0m0s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^\| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)", "Kinda hard to not play along when a baby gate can lock you out of a room.", "Agreed. Just took this one at face value, was pretty funny.", "I don't care if this is staged, it's hilarious as fuck", "Seems like incredible music practice—I'd imagine you gain more practical technical and improvisational skills sound tracking you mom than you would practicing scales for an hour.", "(do people who play the trombone practice scales? lol)", "The dude is freakin giant! Or his mom is just short.", "\"It's lights out and away we go\", part got me", "I can’t imagine what he’s doing takes much talent at all tbh. I played trumpet in 8th grade so I definitely know what I’m talking about ok.\n\nEDIT: I get more pussy than all you losers so blow me.", "Lots of years ago I worked in recording studios. This engineer I worked with had (for unknown reasons) like a hundred trombone player jokes. The only one I remember is this:\n\nQ. What's the definition of optimism?\n\nA. A trombone player with a pager.\n\nAs I said...lots of years ago.", "As a never player of anything, I also love this.", "It's sad with her form of dwarfism. I can't recall the name and I'm too lazy to look it up on my phone, but a coworker who had the same type went from spry and active to scooter bound within 18 months and died a few years later. Sad too because he was cool as fuck. All these mopey fucks around and you got this badass with a scooter and a cane jousting at work.\n\nEdit: I tend not to want to give overly identifiable information on my posts, but this story is too good not to share. We had a lady that constantly blocked doorways trapping people into long conversations. One day he came around the corner with his jousting cane out and all you could hear is this booming little person, \"BE GONE, VILE THOT!!\"\n\nThen, \"OMG you little asshole stop poking me with that!\"\n\n\"Dare not touch the rod of Tudyk!\"", "This was definitely the greatest show ever made.", "For me it does to be honest. Every time it's very obvious someone is pretending to be annoyed/angry/in love...etc. it takes away something for me. Like it's whatever but don't expect me to have a strong emotional reaction when I'm essentially being 'tricked' into thinking something is real.", "this is super old reuploaded on youtube and probably posted here by bots", "Yes.", "Got her too. She couldn't not laugh.", "Friend of mine is a dwarf, very funny and talented lady but very frank about her realities. Side effect of some kinds of dwarfism, your hips and joints wear down wayyy early.", "I work in a brass instrument factory and would be out of a job if not for musicians.\n\nAs this trombone former, I love a player.", "Having a young adult that still treats you like they want to be around you is such a gift.", "#1 reason why I bought a trombone was to fuck with people", "This is one where even if it’s totally setup, it’s still cute and funny. It’s not a desperate plea for clicks/exposure.", "Wait, what? Dad bands are a genre? I must see this.", "The point is to capture natural reactions. When they are acting it isn't natural.", "Probably the only time I’ve seen front loaders not on a pedestal", "I've been on Reddit a while and had never seen it before. Made me smile. \n\nI may be boring, but not a bot.", "You realize it's scripted right?", "Holy shit, 60 million views in two weeks.", "For me it 100% takes away from the humor. This type of humor is best when the reactions are genuine. When somebody knows they’re on camera, nothing is genuine", "I needed this video. Perfect timing to lift my mood. I'd subscribe to a channel of just this.", "Me too. How are you doing? My life is a mess lol", "She knows a sound is gonna come out of the tuba lol idk what else she would expect when her son props up a camera then sits on the dryer with a tuba\n\nEdit: trombone", "They travel at 1,500fps and can kill you?", "Hanging in there. Just a rough time of year and it's been a long year couple of 'em actually). Doing what I can to keep my head on straight, and sometimes a silly thing like this vid really can take the edge off. \n\nHope you're doing ok too. Just remember, like all good meals, this too shall pass.", "So are tv shows, movies, and stand up specials. It’s still fucking funny.", "Wait, you mean the hot girl DIDN'T actually cheat on her boyfriend because the guy had a Lambo?!", "Scripted and wholesome", "Hello there.", "Like the smellyist gas this too shall pass! Whoops, turns out it was a shart! Shoot....", "No one likes a cargo fart.", "What a dick head", "General Tromboni!", "What's the definition of a gentleman?\n\nSomeone who knows how to play the trombone, but doesn't.", "They would be fun to hang out with.", "Dee Sanchez approves.", "You must get very annoyed at movies and tv, then.", "I wish you two the best. These past few years have been hard on everyone, just keep your heads up. I hope you guys have a great day and I wish you both a happy holiday. \n\nIf you guys need someone to talk to im all ears.", "You're aware that some people make their bed every day, right?", "Because funny things aren't funny if it's in the script", "She should really learn the art of La Chancla.", "Cheers! Much appreciated internet stranger!", "Thank you. I'm ashamed that I couldn't remember Grass Skirt Chase of all things.", "Home is where you can play the trombone without fear", "You watch a lot of movies that try to trick you into believing they're candid?", "When she drops the bag and he plays the sad trombone sound.", "Haha I know him!!! He’s so funny.\n\nHe was in a boy band with my good friend, here in LA.\n\nTheir band was called, ZeroGravity.", "He seemed so excited to get to that one.", "Loved this. I loved that his mom went along with it. Great sense of humor\n\nEdit: well now...someone's a Mr. Grumpy-pants", "I follow him on Instagram and TikTok (peet5west and peetmontzingo). Their videos usually brighten my day. Definitely among my favorites.", "hey man /r/wholesome is in another place...\n\nmy heart is melting.", "Now you've decided to stalk me, eh?", "That was the best one for sure.", "check his insta... he did a thing where his mom puts makeup on him to \"show\" how much they look alike.\n\nhe may also have a brother (but questionable because you would think his sister-in-law would have a picture of his brother in their wedding photo...)", "He hits those notes straight on with great tone u love to hear it", ">All these mopey fucks around and you got this badass with a scooter and a cane jousting at work.\n\nI've always really admired people who have a severe disability but are still good people, because deep down I really worry that I'd just turn into a bitter piece of shit if it were me.", "Stalk you?", "Same. I had to put my cat down on Monday and its still difficult to deal with. He was my best friend for 15 years. Sleeping has been impossible because I just cry as soon as I lie down. I need all the laughs I can get.", "What would you call it?", "In due time, my dude.", "I sure do. But I have slept in a made bed my whole life and I can count on my fingers how many mornings I woke up and it was still perfectly made around me.", "1. It's a sandal, not a heavy shoe.\n\n2. He's not a kid. He's more than twice her size.", "Some people also don't thrash in their sleep. :P", "Kinda reminds me of the Real Indian Dad ones with Sheena Melwani. I bet a lot of the humor, one-line jokes and pranks, actually come naturally out of their normal daily lives. \n\nI'd like to think it's sort of a re-enactment and expansion on something they'd really do.", "I have no idea what you're talking about.", "Yeah that’s a super fun and warm family. Just awesome to see.", "As I love a former trombone player, this.", "The best is that she is also enjoying it.", "Whatever you say.", "GlAd To HeAr It! CaRrY On", "Flash from the DC universe be like this sometimes 😂", "I'm guessing she has achondroplastic dwarfism, which is actually a dominant allele. So if she's heterozygotic (meaning she has one copy of the dwarf allele and one copy of the normal allele) and she marries a normal-sized man (who would have two copies of the normal allele), there is a 50% chance each of their children would be born normal.", ">tuba\n\nIt's a trombone.", "Ok", "Oookay. lol", "I dated a chick that was related to little people. It was crazy walking into their kitchen the first time.", "Or the warmth/cuteness/niceness? (I agree with you, I don't think it does take away)", "It's time to stop stalking me, though. Bye!", "Unless the cargo is that sweet, sweet brown gold", "Bruh it’s not a tuba", "That's not quite accurate. Depending on the genotype of both parents, the odds of someone with achondroplastic dwarfism having a normal-sized child range from 0% to 50%.", "Ok", "You're crazy. I have no idea who you are, but thanks for the fruitless conversation I suppose.", "She didn't even question it. Went straight from \"Enough!\" to \"battle royal!\" in half a second.", "Instruments make more than one sound. She doesn't know what stupid noises he's going to make.\n\nLike if someone puts a screen infront of you and says \"watch this\" then will your reaction will be the same no matter what video comes on?\n\nThe same applies here.", "Same y’all, we gotta just keep on keeping on for now, just keep your head up, try to keep calm and carry on for now!", "Dated a chick that had an aunt and uncle that are little people. They have a daughter with an extremely rare form of dwarfism and a son that was 21 and looked like he was in a 12 year olds body. Awesome family, they were on Wife Swap!", "Sure you don't, buddy.", "So awesome!", "NO!\n\nThat's it, you're done. Get off reddit.", "Sorry but the number of sounds that can come out of a trombone and the number of things that can be on a screen doesn’t seem relatable to me lol she knows a stupid sound will come out regardless", "And your comments are as bullshit as if I said \"but you know a video will play\" \n\n\nLike, when a comedian gets up on stage and starts doing his bit, do you not laugh because you know he's going to tell a joke?", "You’re losing me here", "Have you never watched the office or parks and rec where they pretend to be actual workers with cameramen following them around?", "I would. I am a terrible person for days because I have a canker sore in my mouth. Literally, my wife can tell that I have one from the way I talk back. Imagine if I really had something.", "I think you hit the nail on the head.", ":(", "Plenty of movies and tv try to portray their events as real events. That's why \"based on a true story\" is a thing. I was more referencing the fact that everyone in the movie is pretending the movie is real when it plainly is not.\n\nIs that the appeal of a prank video? I dunno. Send like suspension of disbelief is a big part of both those forms of media.", "Seems like you have an amazing mom.", "They have a great relationship. He knew she loved squirrels so he patiently trained a wild one to eat from his hand and surprised her with it one day. She cried. They're adorable.", "I got a toothache and you made me laugh. Damn you, but have my upvote!", ":36 LOL at his excited gasp at the realization of a Star Wars theme opportunity.", "r/holup", "This never fails to put a smile on my face.", "[Zach Anner](https://youtu.be/xWI_J3-2Nzg) is a great example of someone who laughs in the face of his disability.", "That C3PO and R2D2 show looks a bit low budget…..", "The comment implied her laugh was genuine.", "The comment I was replying to implied the mother's reaction was genuine. I never said the video wasn't funny?", "\"ok mom ready?? ... i told you it for posting online... OK camera rolling, go on your normal day\"", "So is most media.", "I really dig both of these people.", "im having a catastrophically shitty day at work today, and this lifted my spirits so much. Fuck my stupid work problems -- life can be joyful.", "It is because I allowed it.", "the counter and fridge are all mini-sized :O :D", "Aw Otto and Gretchen. Didn't their relationship with Francis end really shitty in some throwaway line when they were ready to move on with the character's plotline?\n\ne: Looked it up, Francis messed up depositing the ranch's money and Otto fired him and sued him. Kind of a disappointing ending to their storyline.", "The Stars Wars part killed me.", "Aw. Honest fun and affection in a family.", "Okay, so if everyone involved thinks the scripted thing was funny, why can't the mother's laugh be genuine?", "That is awesome!!!!\nLove it!\nEspecially when she was sweeping……\nLol\nYou guys look like you’re having so much fun!!!\nLove it!!", "You think The Office is intentionally attempting to make the viewer believe that it's not scripted? That its a real documentary?", "Did you feel like Gandalf?", "that racing starting lights and engine/exhaust sounds was just fantastic", "This is so funny. Love it.", "I think it's a bit of both. He probably just set it up in front of her and does it. So not planned, but allowed.", "I mean, it’s easy enough to put up a camera where you know your mom is going to be. I don’t think it’s as scripted as you might think in every case.\n\nLike, the one going down the road with him on the back? Yeah he probably asked her to do that one.\n\nThe laundry? The fridge? The sweeping? Just hit record before you place the tripod and cut the video down after. It can still be spontaneous.", "His reaction when he realizes he can do Star wars. Lol", "This was so wholesome and cute.", "crazy thing is, the mother is 6 feet tall", "This was so cute, I didn't even mind that it was scripted.", "Holy shit that dude is awesome.", "I would laugh my ass off if I saw them rip by on the scooter with the sound effects", "I was hoping for the one with Stewie playing the tuba to fat people walking but not the right instrument right? Wrong! We got it!", "Guys, just trust me, I'm a stranger on the Internet and this kid sucks", "Now I feel bad about wanting to kill myself.", "Oh my god, you two - just make out already! Jeeze....", "Yup, just saw his video explaining this. sheesh, i got downvotes for asking a question. reddit sucks.", "r/contagiouslaughter at the end", "Haha. But they think that would condemn them to hell. :P", "A fellow boner!", "You mean with a trombone?", "and yet somehow they seem happy and it made other people happy. \n\nWhats your point", "its a foam slipper it just stings", "Word, Yo.", "the star wars one got me", "Knowledge that something funny is coming doesn't ruin the joke.\n\nThe sound is the punchline, getting her on camera is the setup.\n\nThe variations in sound he can make are almost infinite. Infinite within a certain range but still infinite.", "I was trying to find a way to lift up your spirits and say something inspirational. Couldn’t find anything on the inspirational side but here is one of my favorite Reddit post about a guys experience in the army. Always has a way to split my guts open. Guess it’s a good reminder to that everyone can have a worse work day. Also it’s a lengthy read but fuck it. You’re having a terrible day at work so might as well take a few minutes more off.\n\n\n[post](https://www.reddit.com/r/StoriesAboutKevin/comments/4wzvpb/so_i_went_to_iraq_with_a_kevin/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)", "this made my day. should be on /r/mademesmile", "omg i could watch hours of this", "I'm 6'6\" and I live with my girlfriend who's 5'2\". \n\nNot saying that it's exactly the same as the situation you describe, but our place is pretty hilarious with the compromises we both had to make.", "I would watch their show. They are both adorable.", "Reduces it by like 90%, for me.", "you know how delicate trombones are? very. one bump and you changed the tonal charater of the instrument. if you actually hit it with a broom it would be fucked. but its fun to pretend", "Let me kid wake me up like that he will have to fart to play that thing", "Wow what a cool Mom and cool ass kid. Great video", "Also having a shitty day at work. I hope your day gets better because you’re right, life can be joyful.", "Sorry about your shitty day, friend. Glad you found a bright spot here. Try to make life come before work (it's not always easy, I know). \n\nTake care!", "Mother Nature is a maaaad scientist Jerry", "We can respectfully disagree here. I don’t believe for one second that he’s “getting her on camera” because this is staged. It might be funnier to ME if it was done to somebody that didn’t know it was coming. That’s just me though lol", "> \"Dare not touch the rod of Tudyk!\"\n\nCurse your sudden but inevitable betrayal?", "It made my morning!", "The difference is that movies and tv shows \"based on a true story\" aren't trying to convince that it IS the true story. It's clear from the outset that it's all a fiction. A lot of staged internet videos aren't immediately obvious, and are clearly trying to convince it's genuine.\n\nAlso, what is the point of a prank video if the reaction isn't genuine? Pranks are supposed to be a surprise, so it's not much of a prank if it's staged", "omg, her face when she realized it's Star Wars music!!! She's a star wars nerd, one of us <3.", "Sometimes the little things matter. Remember to take the time to see them.", "Wee man is gonna ride that little buffalo. :D", "Pain", "Haha, that car vroom sounds.", "Isn’t he just famous from TikTok?", "OMG I want this family to adopt me and I'm 58!", "Lmao", "Depends on the video. For a video like this, not at all. For prank videos it 100% kills the humor for me. The ones that really bother me are the fake ones with people cheating, being heroic, or otherwise being altruistic. I wouldn't care if they were upfront about it being staged, but I hate that they try to pass them off as genuine. But maybe I just don't get it", "Genuinely funny and warm! Thanks", "If both parents have achondroplasia, there is a 25% chance of having a normal-sized child.", "That would get annoying as hell, but I couldn't help but chuckle every time.", "Sousaphone, but close enough. They’re essentially the same, just a different shape.", "When she dropped the bag at the fridge.... lol", "Steady", "I lost it at starwars and then was gone when she stole the trombone-y slide-y thing.", "Did you see the [full compilation](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhLfceZKVko) video he did? The Michael Meyers one made my laugh and the Disney scene", "That last one was the only reference I didn't get", "There's a ton of trombone jokes. Usually interchangeable with viola jokes.\n\n>Q. What's the definition of optimism?\n\nAs a euphonium major in college, I always heard \"a euphonium player with a gig bag.\"", "Absolutely love it! Way to go mom for putting up w the joys of our children", "ABC had a show called Speechless that Zach was a consultant on. Its a pretty decent show.", "Cringe", "Not as genuine as your bitterness I guess", "It's the mildly uncomfortable precursor to \"talk shit, get hit.\" A valuable lesson everyone should learn.", "Was that a dog face down???", "There's a few videos of trombone sound effects on YouTube doing similar things (mopeds and the like) and each one still makes me chuckle", "That's the part that got me too!", "I love how cute their mother son relationship is. Lotta love in that fam.", "I bet they do, and I bet that's a lot more funny than their planned skits with her incredibly obvious fake laughter.", "Einfach nur mega lustig zu sehen dass sie auch selber drüber lachen kann", "Trombone player with a business card would still work. Great joke", "Is this the same kid that pulled the Slenderman on his mom?", "I would really have smacked him if he did that while sleeping.", "Wait, you think the people in this video are trying to make you believe that it's not scripted at all?", "Great, now I want a trombone... Thanks guys", "K.", "Yeah, and the sequel, Breaking Bad, and the spin-off, Better Call Saul, are pretty good too!", "Same", "Wow, I love her.", "So you literally never laugh when someone tells you a joke if you know they're telling you a joke?", "You lie! Those are documentaries!", "I love this. My son is in his second year of trombone in middle school band and I’m sending this to him as inspiration. So much more fun than practicing scales.", "Not sure how you got to that conclusion. This isn’t a joke being told, it’s a skit. I think funny skits are hard to achieve. I also have a different sense of humor than most though. I’m sure there are people that find this kinda stuff but not me, that’s all.", "If the humor relies entirely on a setup being real, it sucks. \n\nIf the humor works either way (like this), thumbs up!", "Ok, then go get your trumpet and make a video. I’ll meet you back in here 24 hours. If it takes so little talent then I’m sure your 8th grade skill is enough to repeat this.", "You are a tuned one.", "If you can't see the connection then that's a failure on your part.", "Wholesome content. I especially liked it when he was riding on the back of her scooter making it sound like a motorcycle. Good stuff.", "i didn't know that. thanks.", "If that’s how you see it then that’s fine by me lol I know I’m good on my part", "Yes. I think they intend to give the impression that these are candid moments.", "They do say ignorance is bliss.\n\nCase and point.", "I love these 2. Great chemistry", "They are hilarious, what a great relationship.", "Yeah it is staged, if you look at their videos he does this often enough that she’s used to it and participates. He also watches some ghost hotel from his apartment and is in some pop group?\n\nHe’s also like 30, and the only person in the family without dwarfism", "Haha! Thanks for that! I thought the first video was going to be the highlight of my day, but you proved me wrong.", "I gave up on it in the first part where the guy says someone will yell “at ease” when an officer enters the room. Not entirely convinced the writer is actually military.", "Someone posted below but it's a SpongeBob tune.", "REAL!", "The only thing I’m ignorant of is how people find this funny.", "yeah not sure why it needed a clickbait title either.\n\nNothing about this was \"kid annoying his mum\"", "That was never relevant to what we're discussing. You said the reaction is never genuine because there's a camera. My entire point is you can still get a genuine reaction if the person being filmed doesn't know what's coming. It's that simple.\n\nYour subjective tastes on humour are irrelevant.", "Hah, that bit waking her up brought back some memories. I spent so many years as a kid waking up to Reveille from my [Nickelodeon alarm clock](https://i.imgur.com/MiEzf4a.jpg).", "Aww, that sucks! Someone posted the entire compilation video of this mom and her son below, and maybe it'll brighten your day even further. \n\nLife can totally be joyful and you sound like someone who deserves that joy! I wish I could personally lift your spirits, but just so you know, you definitely lifted mine. It's good to know there are people like you out there in the world.", "She does know what’s coming though, I don’t think your argument that trombones can make “an infinite” amount of sounds is enough to depict she doesn’t know what’s coming lol high pitch, low pitch, long note, short note, she knows he’s gonna try and play the trombone to the sound of what she’s doing. Idk why we’re even going on this long about this lmao let’s just agree to disagree", "This was the perfect way to start my day.", "Sometimes your Olive Garden is a Denny's, and that humorously resonated with me", "Some are definitely better than others. I found the original ones funnier. I think in those she knew he would mess with her, but really didn't know what he would say. So, the laughter was more genuine. \n\nMost of the more current ones are more like skits. He's still funny, but the reactions are less genuine and tak away from it. \n\nI find this mom and kid funnier because yeah, it's obviously a skit and her reactions are set up, but they seem to be in line with her personality. And she's naturally more funny even when it's bad acting. Real Indian Dad is very witty and funny, but sometime her reactions detract. Their setups rely more on a suspension of belief.", "In my experience, hardship separates the weak-spirited from the strong-spirited.\n\nThe best people I know are on the other side of tough lives, or are battling an ongoing hardship. And the crummiest people are in the same situation.\n\nYou're right to worry, but luckily we do have a choice in how we deal with adversity. Attitude and taking responsibility are key.", "I love this", "The truth?", "Whoa. You played Trumpet in 8th grade? Damn you must be an expert. You're so cool", "Damn it this is precious", "The long version is better, mom fires back with a kazoo.", "That's how you spell his Peet.", "Omg thank you for sharing this. Dude Is hilarious", "I love them", "Godammit I miss my mom.", "Consider it food for thought. We always need to strive to be the best form of ourselves. Some people really shine at this.", "This dude is so cringey. I've seen his other videos and it's all staged but trying to not seem staged work.", "This is my favorite Zach Anner clip\n\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waqy5ydFucY", "I think this was so funny I’ll never laugh again. The Mario kart to her dropping something broke my bread. 👌", "this is some of the most wholesome fun and family bonding I have seen in awhile.", "I like his mum :)", "How do you make a trombone player's car more aerodynamic?\n\nTake the Domino's Pizza sign off the roof.", "I love that all the top comments have different favorite parts! That gear shifting killed me.", "OK?! OK?!!? Ok.", "Not sure who is the biggest legend, him or the mom. \n\nKudos to both.", "My cheeks hurt from laughing the entire length of that video. \n\n\"I think I broke my foot. It's ok, I don't need it. It's only the left one\".\n\n:')", "This should hit r/mademesmile because man that was great, she lit up at the star wars trombone v broom fight and the apples falling.", "Just one day my friend. The next day will be better, AND you can watch this while you’re having a good day! All the best!", "That's so hard. I'm sending hugs.", "https://youtu.be/hz-KwtKRBUY", "That is a fucking bold statement.", "Lol I don’t have a trumpet anymore. What do you think I am, some kind of beta band nerd? Nah.", "Yes. For me, anyway.", "What an incredible parent...", "Lol you comment on nsfw subs. Obviously you’re retarded.", "Holy shit that improv Star Wars theme when the mom comes at him with the broom LOL", "What?! I said you were soo cool", "His channel is the one in the link.", "That is some of the funniest shit I've seen in a while!", "I don't think he was implying that they were spontaneous. Agreeing to be in his bits counts as \"playing along.\"", "The one where it's clearly a fake film crew filming fake people doing fake things, and where being actually real isn't part of the value? Yes.\n\nI mean, honestly, think about this. Let's say that The Office WAS actually a real documentary with real people. The way you perceive that show would be way different, right? We'd all be talking about how insane it is that there are ACTUALLY people that ACTUALLY said some of those things, etc. Some things would definitely be funnier, and some things would be genuinely horrifying instead of funny or uncomfortable.\n\nYes, whether it's actually real or we know it's fake does make a difference.", "I wanna be like you! You played trumpet in 8th grade!!!", "That was great.", "So he's the weird one. Got it.", "I loved the car accelerating sounds while he's riding her scooter.", "I wonder what he'll play at her funeral", "This makes me want to pick up the trombone again. Been a while.", "I want a trombone now to annoy my roommate", "He definitely is lol", "To freaking cute.", "Oh definitely, pointing out the flaws in everything is what makes life worth living. Especially when you can do it in a public forum to show everyone how smart you are.", "r/MadeMeSmile", "It’s precisely what you made yourself seem.\n\nSo you’ve just discredited someone’s talent even though you cannot do the same yourself, claimed you could do something similar on a trumpet and yet you own neither trumpet nor the talent to do so. \n\nBy the way - I’d love to see you play a single correct note on a trombone; go see if you can find even one of the 3 valves from your trumpet on a trombone.", "This is so wholesome. Good relationship. Great playing!", "That was hilarious!", "Is that Anna Maria Marconi from superior Spider-Man?", "And this is why you're debating in bad faith.\n\n\"Lol, music is all the same.\"\n\nIs it fuck.", "59 million views? Holy shit wtf", "God, I miss my mom.. this reminds me of our relationship. Without the trombone of course.", "Thanks for sharing this. Our very beloved cat just died a few hours ago, and I'm just sitting here listlessly scrolling through Reddit, just numb whenever the pain of his loss isn't crushing my soul. This video reminded me that there is still joy in the world, even if I'm having a hard time seeing it right now. They seem so sweet and wholesome, and I'm thankful for that, and to you for showing it to us.", ">\tsequel \n\n🤣", "I don't care if it's staged or not. These two together are quite funny and wholesome.", "Yeah, I always wake up in the same position I went to sleep. It was kind of a shock when I started sharing a bed with my then boyfriend (now husband), who sleeps like he’s acting out a fight scene (and yes, I’ve been hit more than once on accident lol)", "The world needs more joy like this.\n\nWow someone downvoted this?", "How did 6 feet of bubble tape come out of a box of matches", "is there a specific terminology for this sort of trombone old-timey sound fx?", "So your trombone is now....rusty?", "I love their videos! Cute mom and son comedy!!", "We rely on physical comedy - killed me\n\n\nOh no you can't, we took out the ramp - set the corpse of fire", "His ability to narrate sounds of actions with the trombone was actually super impressive", "Anyone know the last song? I’ve heard It, But I can’t put my finger on it", "I love every bit of this.", "One day last year I was in the gym, all in my own head, feeling grumpy and short tempered, just aggressive and muscle-heady, when I look over and there’s this middle-aged man with one arm fitting a special strap so he could exercise and just killed it all day long. Snapped me out of it big time. \n\nSulfur flexion (self reflection) is a good thing", "Who said music is all the same? This whole time you’ve tried to draw comparisons and use the “so you” argument. Also, debating in bad faith? Lmfao", "[Here's his IMDb bio](https://m.imdb.com/name/nm2788930/bio?ref_=m_mn_ov_bio). It looks like he's also in a boyband called [5West](https://www.wonderlandmagazine.com/2020/10/19/5west-rollacoaster-aw20-issue/) who are also active on TikTok.", "I mean, that was in the script for her to do.", "Full 5 minute compilation for y'all https://youtu.be/uhLfceZKVko", "The seem like a fun family", "> Have you never watched the office or parks and rec where they pretend to be actual workers with cameramen following them around?\n\nI don't know anybody who thinks a mockumentary is real.", "That's code for \"actor asked for too much money, contact not renewed\" \n\nThat's what you get for letting execs decide who to pay more and not the writers", "He's got a brother and a sister who are both dwarfs, but I think at least one of them is adopted?", "That last song is from SpongeBob. Usually during the chaotic scenes lol", "An Aeilman with a trombone... Now I've seen everything...", "This was a great way to start lunch break. Thanks OP!", "I don't move in my sleep. I wake up however I fell asleep.", "I think they might be referring to the fact that you are responding to their comments (and thus they end up getting a notification about it). Maybe they don't realize that comments on reddit are pretty public and anybody can see/comment on them. I feel sorry for them.", "Hey there are plenty of us grumpy fucks out here. Sometimes shit sucks and that's okay, too.", "This is so awesome abs wholesome", "Star Wars theme got me dying. They have some great chemistry.", "Former tuba player here. I don't think I've ever met a trombone player who hasn't had a completely stupid sense of humour like this.", "Such a beautiful Covid story!", "I often wonder about this, if there’s a “nature” component verses “nurture,” with certain people. I see so many people with extremely difficult lives to live, have the best attitudes and ability to inspire others. Evolutionarily speaking, it would seem to make sense that certain disabilities might be advantageous for a society, even if they are so detrimental to the individual. I wonder if there are studies of the brain or chemistry of such individuals related to their “good attitudes” in the face of such hardship. It is a quality we need more of in the general population, myself included.", "This brightened my day for sure. Made me call my Mom. Anyone that can should as well:)", "Fun mom. They're both lucky to have that relationship.", "Holy shit I'm crying laughing right now. I have no problems. At all. \n\n\"What's the point of running if you don't know where you're going?\"", "Scripted af but funny and cute", "is the dad also a midget?", "Laughed waaaay more than I should have haha", "they are loud too, especially if you are on the business end", "This is so wholesome.", "I like a good short story", "I've hit my boyfriend in the face before in my sleep. It happens when I'm like... Right on the cusp of waking up. Also sometimes I snort really loudly and it startles me awake.", "I'm having The Empire Strikes Back flashbacks where Chewbacca is trying to gather C-3P0's parts", "I absolutely loved him on On The Spot! He did a great job bantering with the guys from Funhaus.", "I know I would. I'm bitter already due to my apparent autism. I can't imagine it being worse.", "I really needed this video. Thank you.", "and this is why you dont have teenage boys. they are dicks. sometimes funny as hell, but still dicks", "I thrash all night, my spouse does not. We have separate blankets. My side is a tangled mess. Their side is perfect. \n\nIt's almost like different people are different.", "This is gold!", "His channel \nhttps://youtube.com/c/PeetMontzingo", "isn't that part she pulled where the spit pours out? idk the anatomy but I know you gotta drain those bad boys", "watch him on the rooster teeth show on the spot to see just how great he is.", "I see I was late to reference on the spot but I'm so glad that you posted him with funhaus", "/r/nothingeverhappens", "I love these two.", "This is nice", "What’s the second tune he played called? When he’s waking her up.", "Star Wars took me out", "It's pretty hard to fake being \"natural\". If these are staged, she's an amazing actress. I'm guessing it's not the first time he's done the star wars saber battle with her.", "I miss my mom.", "If???\n\nAt 44 seconds, you think that's natural? Not staged?\n\nCome the fuck on man . . .", "This shit is so staged it should be on broadway.", "Yeah I imagine he’s practiced the Star Wars theme A LOT (because who wouldn’t), so when he saw an opportunity to make a joke out of it I’m sure he was ecstatic.", "is that the dwarf from house md episode?", "Debating? Dude, it's just a conversation you don't have to win them.", "What a wonderful relationship!", "\"Hey mom, I'm gonna sit up here on the washer with my trombone, it's cool. I'm just hanging out. It's where I practice trombone. Totally natural.\"", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVdB36lmbII", "She acts like she hates it but you can also tell she’s proud of the talented, funny, and (judging by this video) loving kid she raised.", "I bet that name really elevated them!", "It gets easier, friend. My cat crossed the rainbow bridge almost a month ago. He was my best friend for 17 years. Your kitty would want you to feel better and remember all the good times you had.", "\"Repost of kid and mom in funny scripted video\"", "Well no shit it's \"not natural\". Dude's teasing his mom by playing the trombone while she does mundane things.\n\nThat doesn't mean that the mom was \"in on it\" or it was scripted.", "Man, classic Funhaus was just such a fantastic funny dynamic. It was so sad wen Bruce & Lawrence left. Then obviously he who will not be spoken of had to go and be a weird pervert that alienated everyone in his life and that really sealed the deal of it being the end of an era. I’ve heard the newer crew they’ve got now isn’t awful, but it’s just not the same.", "He was also the king in The Little Mermaid movie, was sad when he died in real life.", "We were talking about the light saber battle. That scooter one was definitely arranged. That doesn't really have any impact on the light saber battle though. \n\nAlso swearing online shows a lack of confidence. You can feel free to do it, but it doesn't have the affect you think it does.", "w-hat", "That was adorable! I especially loved the impromptu lightsaber duel!", "I'm so sorry", "I'm going to hell for laughing so hard at that. I'm guessing they have a really good relationship.", "> That doesn't mean that the mom was \"in on it\" or it was scripted.\n\nYou can't be this dense, can you?\n\nHe rides on the back of her scooter, with her driving, past a set up camera to record.\n\nShE's Not iN oN iT, iTs NoT sCrIpTeD!", "Sets up phone. Jumps on back of mom's buggy, wielding trombone.\n\n\"Hey mom, drive past this little area real quick.\"\n\nUse your brain, guy.", "We've both been arguing two sides of an argument.\n\nNews flash, that's literally a debate.", "The whole thing is arranged. \n\nAnd like I, or the world, gives a fuck about your take on swearing, when you're already missed the mark so hard on being able to identify what is staged or not.", "She seems to enjoy it, a little.", "was that a youtube show or something? I really don't do the sub thing on yt, just search what I want at the time. \n\n\nI had no idea but just watched for Zach", "Was his name Jeff Alberts?", "You pointed out the washing machine one, that's really what I was talking about.\n\nNevermind the fact that you cantankerous skeptics can't even enjoy a funny video, lol", "this made me smile", "That a good kid raised by a great lady!", "The three people on the teams that aren’t Zach are all from Funhaus, yeah. It was a gaming youtube channel. Still is, technically. Bruce, the guy who keeps yelling “put it on the screen” left the channel, then so did someone not in the video named Lawrence. Then a third member had a bunch of weird perverted allegations about wildly inappropriate office conduct come out about them. The channel’s still up with a largely different cast now, but it’s just not the same.", "Accurate title- POS son takes advantage of mother with dwarfism for internet likes.", "I don't think the other guy would agree, he would probably say \"yeah, we were having a discussion/conversation.\" Hence him laughing at your debate in bad faith comment\n\nEdit: also you're wrong about the definition of debate. \"a formal discussion on a particular matter in a public meeting or legislative assembly, in which opposing arguments are put forward and which usually ends with a vote.\"", "That is incredible", "Wow thanks for the clarification bro, this changes EVERYTHING", "Workout Wednesdays were my jam!", "I pointed out the whole damn video.\n\nIt all is.\n\n\"Hold on mom, let me set up my camera and grab my trombone before you rake/sweep leaves.\"\n\n\"Just ignore me on the washing machine mom, this is where I practice my trombone, next to my camera over there on the tripod.\"\n\nPlease tell me you at least know Marvel movies aren't documentaries. You're starting to feel that clueless.", "No. Different guy.", "His name is Peet Montzingo and his parents and siblings all have dwarfism! He's in a boyband called 5WEST and he makes some pretty funny content on IG and YT.", "Well thats just cute tbh", "That’s cute", "I feel like me and him have a very similar sense of humor. Being in a chair is tough and you gotta cope somehow. \n\nHumor is the best way.", "Damn you, I came here for the fat guy walking noise and that was the shortest one!! But seriously super talented!!", "Always too soon", "I wish I could hit other people's kids too", "Oh please no, let's not rehash every old popular tiktok to Reddit...", "That fact that you're trying so hard to show that you don't care, means you do care. If you truly didn't care, you wouldn't have responded. \n\nI'm not judging you, just trying to help you accomplish what it is you're trying to accomplish. You want to prove me wrong, which is impossible. Without evidence, either one of us can be right. Since we can't know for sure who's right, people will tend to believe the person they feel is more confident. By swearing at me it shows a lack of confidence in your answer, which instantly makes me look more confident by comparison. So by swearing at me your essentially setting yourself up for failure. I was trying to help you accomplish whatever it is you're hoping to accomplish in this little debate.\n\nUnless your overall goal was to get me to change my mind on the matter? If so, that's also not going to happen without evidence. I don't claim to know if it's staged or not. I can lean one way or the other, but I'd never claim I know for sure, untill I do. It doesn't come off as staged to me, plus it doesn't hurt me to be a little optimistic here... so that's my current view. If you post some evidence to backup your claims I'll change my views. Until then we're both equally right and wrong.", "Should have played follow the yellow brick road.", "Kids?", "Being in on the joke doesn't mean you have a script and are acting. \n\n\"Wait let me go get my trombone\"\n\n\"NO! JOHN! I DARE YOU, don't you... JOHN!\"\n\n\"Ok let me just put the camera\"\n\n\"John, I'm serious [laughs], I need this to be done before 7 you know your aunt is com--\"\n\n\"It's just gonna take a minute, oh wait I'm gonna sit here that's funny\"\n\n\"don't get on the--! The washing machine, john, carful! You're like 10 feet tall you weight 300 tons don't destroy the washin--\"\n\n\"Ok shh just pick up clothes!\"\n\n\"Don't you shhh me young man! I'll pick up clothes if I...\"\n\n[sad woops]\n\n\"...You little mischievous devil!\"", "The sound effects on the scooter got me. Imagine seeing that go down the road.", "\"Annoy\" is only kinda accurate. His mom clearly gets the humor and loves it and him.", "The sad trombone after she dropped the fridge item was perfect.", "Ms. Simpson, do you find something funny about the word tromboner?", "this is so great", "These two have a great relationship.", "I trust your anecdote, but downvoted cause, first off, kids can sometimes be pieces of shit, they usually outgrow that. Two, if this guy is pursuing a career in entertainment, then that's the way to go. He seems talented and determined. What the hell is a 'real job'?, who are you to gatekeep?, and, why does that even matter to you? \n\nYou sound like _you_ didn't outrow your childishness.", "Bro, if i had someone creating a real life sound track for me, that would make me feel pretty awesome! Willy wasnt doing anything harmful just having some whimsical fun.", "I didn't know that...little people could have normal sized children. TIL", "\"a formal discussion on a particular matter in a public meeting or legislative assembly, in which opposing arguments are put forward and which usually ends with a vote.\" \n\n\n\"We've both been arguing two sides of an argument.\" \n\n\nSame thing. \"Usually\" doesn't mean always. That's can be the only place you think they aren't the same, if you were to think Usually means Always. That would have to be the case because the rest is spot on but with more words. Reddit is essentially a public meeting.", "I love that the mom is good natured about it and laughs with her son. Very charming and cute", "I don’t know if it’s sad. She seems to have a great life and a great kid.", "She loves it. It’s their thing for sure. Absolutely adorable and endearing.", "You are a loud one!", "Okay, you just like arguing then?", "> You can't be this dense, can you?\n\nPretty ironic to come from a guy who can't just enjoy a funny video.", "Why did you come here if you were just gonna type shit like that? What's the point?\n\nYou came to me.", "There's a video where he goes across New York in search of a specific bagel in order to highlight how cities are incredibly not wheelchair friendly. Even just getting from your room to the ground floor can take hours when people won't make room for you. Good message, fucking hilarious video. Ever since I watched it, I always make sure to move shit like signs and fallen garbage cans clear of sidewalks.", "Alessandro Zanardi is one of my heroes because of that. Dude was a super talented racing driver, lost both legs above the knee in one of the most horrific crashes I've ever seen, went back to racing on an adapted car and started hand cycling and won the paralympics. Simply doesn't let the life put him down.", "The ending when she finally fired back was the best", "I was just saying it isn't a debate, I didn't come at you lol.", "Alright, well you just have fun.", "That reminds me of [this:] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lExnBadkFZg). From the Last Leg - a UK TV show.", "Literally no one thinks that they aren't pre-planned. You aren't smarter than everyone for pointing that out, you're just annoying. It's like standing up in the middle of the movie at a movie theater and yelling \"guys this is totally fake\". Like ya, no one came here for a fucking documentary dude. We know. We all know. And if one crazy idiot in the crowd really does think it's real, it's hurting literally no one, and your comment isn't going to change their mind", "Brave Sir Robbin!", "No kidding, the way he owned the troll is just amazing. He's badass.", "Breaking bad being a sequel series of Malcolm in the middle makes me wonder what happened to Lois lol and why none of his genius kids couldn't stop it", "Such a great movie.", "My favorite is when Zach asks James to toss him, can't find it for the life of me though", "That all sounds so sad.", "\"funny\" video.\n\nTruly r/funny level quality here.", "Sax a ma phooonnnee", "I'm not reading all that shit.", "This is why parents put out embarrassing photos at every opportunity and then gas light their kids about how they're not embarrassing photos.", "[SPOILER WARNING: The actual ending of Breaking Bad, clearing up the confusion of what happend between Malcolm in the Middle and Breaking Bad](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVdB36lmbII)", "Oh my god that is hilarious!", "I know, Reddit....the cardinal sin....grammatical faux pas, and lack of proof reading.\n\n(I have also put a comma between the pas and the and, and it is not needed!)", "This is wholesome af. Love it.", "Pure love in that house. I tell you what", "How smol mom make big boy?", "Achondroplasia?", "That lady oooozes mom energy.", "So, I'm disabled. (And on year four of trying to prove to the government that yes, an endocrine disorder causing me to spend multiple days a week throwing up does, in fact, make keeping a job impossible.)\n\n\nWhen I was growing up, my grandfather told me a story about one of his coworkers, back as a computer programmer for Bowing. She had been hit by a car, and was permanently in a wheelchair, paralyzed from the waist down.\n\n\nNow, that truly does suck, and people were understanding when she was grumpy, but... She went beyond that and was both rude and demanding - expecting people to serve her because she was disabled.\n\n\nOne day, maybe a year after the accident, her friend at work took her aside for a talk. She basically said, \"Look, you're in a wheelchair. It sucks, I get it, and nothing is going to change that. But don't you think people would treat you better if you treated them well, and were nice? They'd be far more inclined to help you.\"\n\n\nApparently that stuck with her, because she completely turned around her attitude - and lo and behold, people actually enjoyed her company again and would go out of their way to help her out.\n\n\nThe story stuck with me too, apparently. Even on my worst days, when I'm abjectly miserable, I do my very best to not take it out on the people around me who care, because it's not fair to them and it makes everybody's day that much worse.\n\n\nPoint is, empathy is a powerful thing, and it goes in both directions. People who were raised without it don't suddenly gain it after being disabled, and those of us who were raised correctly, well... We try to do the best we can.", "Not Allegations. He did it. There were hundreds of photos.", "Nah I'm right. Plus, everyone here is chill and conversational. \n\nYou're the only one getting upset lol", "I get it but please watch out for tinnitus being so close. Standing behind trumpets and trombones seriously fucked up my hearing.", "I now realizing how prevalent trombones are in sound effects.", "I'm not sure about that. Francis' whole deal was that his story kept moving. Military school, ranch....whatever came next, then being a deadbeat with Piama. I don't think they wanted to milk Otto anymore, Francis' purpose was to always be doing new stuff while the main family remained mostly static.", "Givin' shawty da 'bone.", "They would be fun neighbors", "That one had me rollin too 😂", "totally unbelievable... there's not even a snare drum riff and the dude is beating it more than Chris Brown beats.. well.. any woman really..\n\n/s ;)", "Omg stop", "I feel like my enjoyment of this video, while great, would have been immensely greater had I not been using such a trash video player as this one. It was static 99% of the time.", "I’m officially in love with these two\n\nEdit; why would my comment be downvoted?", "Rolling Stones are technically a band of dads right?", "You sure got him, pal. Someone might have accidentally enjoyed the video if you weren't here to correct them.", "I have also heard that babies are quite small. It would be unlikely that she passed a full size teenager (and a trombone).", "\"This is a proud dwarven household. I'll have no... no NORMAL CHILD IN MY HOUSE!!\"", "One does not simply walk away from the ‘bone.", "What movie is this? I would love to see more!", "I was starting to type a response, but damn dude. Live a little. Smile more. Enjoy stuff. It's okay to have fun on the internet.", "Dark humor is literally a thing.", "This time of year is super rough! But you have a great attitude. That speaks volumes for what it takes to power through tough times. Wish you the best, love and good cheer for you stranger!", "And some people like mcdonald's burgers. \n\nDoesn't make them good or quality burgers.", "We love to feed the trolls 'round here", "You're telling a stranger it's not ok for a dwarven mother to wag a shoe at her son in a feeble attempt to hit anything but air and maybe a bug.\n\nChildren are literally fucking dying in Afghanistan yet here we are.", "Francis needs to learn how to use a corkscrew.", "Little mom, big love", "It's sort of fits, I think. But you asked me a question which I'm not answering. It's from: I'm Going To Get You Sucka. According to me, peak Wayans. I think this movie is hysterical, but I like this sort of humor a lot.", "Just watches cartoon from the fucking 1930s", "This is awesome.", "They can be played softly, brah", "genetics", "Love this", "lol, gaslighting my ass.\n\nPerception is reality. And their perception of those photos and what they remember is totally different than your perception and memory.", "Its also good practice for the instrument.", "So hands up who else wants to be part of this family", "This is so cute. Like she wants to be annoyed but just can’t. 🥺", "This is actually really adorable and she seems like a great sport about it", "Sounded like he wasn't playing softly in the video", "Big vagina", "Those laughs are genuine, unless she’s one hell of an actor.", "This is hilarious! This is like the soundtrack to every short joke she’s ever heard and it’s by her own offspring… what a cruel hand fate has dealt her", "That's true", "I’ve watched through malcom in the middle all the way through but whenever anyone posts a clip I never remember the scene.", "Fuck, I forgot about him. That guy is hilarious. I’m gonna have to see what he’s been up to lately.", "That's a kid you can't stay mad at!", "I too enjoy laughing in the face of others’ disability.", "I appreciate your edit so much, lmfao", "U.N. Jefferson !?!", "Zach is great! Also a big fan of [Josh Blue](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQSAk-9gVoM), another comic with Cerebral Palsy who has such an awesome attitude and just wants to make people laugh.", "Not that this isn't entertaining, it is, but that bit was stolen from the end of [Newhart.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgdUWXf8jJk)", "I like their humor. Wholesome family", "I had no clue. It's like those jokes that are told again and again throughout time, but where the names in the jokes are swapped out with people who are relevant today.", "Maybe dad is a small person too?", "I saw the Conan O’Brien show in New York many, many years ago. They were doing a bit where audience members were winning awards. One guy got the \"Looks The Most Like Hurley From Lost\" award, and another got the \"James Lipton\" award, but it turned out to just be James Lipton. Then there was \"The Worst Seat In The House\" award. The idea was that the person farthest from the stage would win. It turned into a bit where two guys just kept picking up their chairs and running farther and farther away so that they could win. \n\nHere’s the relevant part:\n\nSo one of the people I went with was in a wheelchair. We sat at the very top of the rows of chairs, with him in his wheelchair and us on a bench. He was sitting closest to the aisle. One of the assistants asked if just for a few minutes our other friend could move so that she was sitting in the aisle seat. So our friend sits there and suddenly shows up on camera as the person with the worst seat in the house (followed by the two guys trying to be farther than her). Right after the bit, we are moving back to our original seats, and my friend in the wheelchair says, \"So I actually did have the worst seat in the house.\" The assistant, understandably flustered, just mumbled something and walked away.", "OMG the kazoo!!! LMAO!!", "Not even that.", "I was going to say, he's pretty good.", "If both parents are heterozygous for achondroplasia, there is a 25% chance of having a normal-sized child. If either parent is homozygous for it, then there is a 0% chance.", "i didint know any of that i stopped watching after ray left, are you talking about the host? or is this a different person entirely? just curious honestly", "I didn't downvote you.\n\nI think the wording of your question may have made some people think it wasn't serious, though.", "No Umpa lumpa. 0 / 10.", "Good times. Seriously enjoyed this", "Does anyone have an idea where to get the Mario jacket seen at 0:13 in the video?", "You clearly don’t get it", "Josh Blue is pretty great too!", "Pocket mom", "Broadway has good acting", "I have red hair. My brother does not. He calls me nature's loser since it's a double recessive, apparently. So maybe there's something to his gingerness preventing him getting dwarfism?", "That made me smile ear to ear. Very funny yet incredibly wholesome!", "[This is the same son that trained the squirrel to take food from his hand for her. ](https://youtu.be/YhJ9Z4qhTy0)", "miniatura de engaño", "Source?", "Is it really fair to downvote this guy for speaking the truth?", "\"This is the best make-a-wish ever!\" wow, that was great", "[Shane Burcaw](https://youtube.com/c/SquirmyandGrubs) is another good egg. He has ~~muscular dystrophy~~ spinal muscular atrophy but is a very upbeat and hilarious dude. He also does amazing work for charities both related to SMA and disabilities in general.", "As per usual, the contrarian's reasoning is dogshit and doesn't actually add up at all.\n\nYou really _do not_ get it.", "Clearly I've struck a nerve. Not sure why you're so insulted.", "I love this.", "What's that?", "I knew a family where the mom was a dwarf, the dad was a dwarf, they had a dwarf son and a normal sized son. They were super humble and sweet.", "The point", "\"Technically, the wheelchair brought you.\"\n\nwith an exaggerated surprised Pikachu face \"Really? OMG that makes so much sense! My chair IS sentient! Wheelchair, punch his face!\"", "Okay. Thanks for wasting our time, I guess.", "I figured it was the man with the sexiest of all palsies 😂", "sigh......there is warmth in this video that i need in my life.", "why would you", "We talking Alan Tudyk? Cuz id touch that rod.", "Did you not read? they don't care", "This made me smile so much that I'm glad I brushed my teeth.", "Cant find it om imdb", "Welp time to call my therapist...", "I watch these guys on Tik Tok they are hilarious", "You’re thinking of Achievement Hunter. Funhaus is an entirely different group, though still under the RoosterTeeth umbrella", "Sometimes my Olive Garden IS a Denny's. Thank you, Zach. You understand me.", "Unless this is staged, he is a quick thinker. Mom seemed genuinely surprised by the Star Wars bit.", "I aspire to have a relationship like this with my kids when they grow up.", "Try harder LOL\nhttps://m.imdb.com/title/tt0095348/", "That show was hilarious.", "These guys videos are great.", "Wasnt what you wrote, no Wonder 😂", "The episode where he hosted On the Spot was one of my favorites, he's so funny", "What's the last one he's playing before she steals the slide?", "That shit is funny as hell", "This was really wholesome.", "[AronChupa & Little Sis Nora - Trombone](https://youtu.be/khpL08_O1WE)", "[best one by far](https://youtu.be/A0hYiRe4DL8)", "Yeah having worked in sessions, I’m pretty sure I’ve heard it for every instrument that’s not guitar/piano/drums at this point.", "That was great. He nailed it each time.", "Definitely checks out. All of my old trombone friends from back in the day were similar.", "Fake.", "I literally said: “ahhhwll, they have fun.”", "She took it so well!", "Reverse card and kazoo made me drop my phone so hilarious", "This is probably how you become a great musician lol. \nAlso that fast star wars jump was super cool", "Wasup with these young kids using phrases like “sound effing my mom” and “ear rape”?", "This made me smile", "My favorite is him on the back of her scooter", "its literally in the title, bub", "I saw the link and I knew there was only one thing it could possibly be.", "Wholesome. I love it.", "Closest I can find is another video from one year back which is just this same thing, but fewer clips. Help us out?", "[I'm just gonna leave this here](https://youtu.be/ibmVJDErSEY)", "He does have a brother who posts frequently on TikTok aswell. I know because I watch his brothers videos and they are equally as wholesome and enjoyable.", "I bet she's really happy she got him that trombone.", "Frack, had to scroll several pages to finally find this.", "He died? I didn't know dwarfism could be life-shortening.", "Clearly it was totally impossible to figure it out. I mean, what else could it be?", "The actor that plays Francis I think also started directing a bunch at the time or wanting to do so more, and it's why a lot of Francis' stuff wanes later in the series. Wiki only shows him as the director of one episode though.", "Allegedly.", "They get their own special jokes.\n\nDid you hear about the bassist that locked his keys in his car?\n\nYeah, it took them hours* to get the drummer out.", "She's going to shove that horn somewhere and he's going to make those sounds every time he walks around.", "Mom's cute, milf", "And playing the reverse uno card too. Perfect!", "So wholesome. This made me smile. She’s slightly annoyed but clearly a happy and playful person who loves her son and can take a joke.", "\"I can't believe my legs work!\"\n\nWhat a legend!", "Olive Garden is just an Italian Dennys.", "I'm glad this made people smile like it made me smile!\n\nAlso thanks for the Gold!", "that made me want to learn the trombone just to make my daughter laugh....and then annoy her when she's a teenager", "Ahahahqhahq\n\nOh fuck, the Teacher from Snoopy", "Those VQ-36 sound effects.", "Family. The amount of love there.", "actually the actor for Otto got sick (pancreatic cancer) and retired. it’s in his wiki (Kenneth Mars)", "It’s obviously planned but there are moments where something unexpected happens during filming and he’s good at running with it. The sad trombone when she dropped the ham(?) seems spontaneous. The part where she grabbed the slide off seemed accidental as well.", "Obviously staged, but funny in spots!", "Wow so talented….every high school trombone player should be able to do this lol", "She is short tempered!", "That's true, they're good quality burgers on their own merits.", "My kids suck.", "I think that is the same guy that trained a squirrel to get food from her. Seems like a decent guy", "I watched this video 10 times and it makes my day better.", "It's nice to see people happy, laughing and having fun.", "I guess\n\n> Kid films a series of comedy sketches with his mother \n\nwas too honest of a post title for Reddit.", "Shit... there is this Costco employee at the local Costco with dwarfism. My son really likes to see him because he can talk to him without having to look up. He went from no issues to a walker to a scooter in the past year. He's really cool too.", "Probably made no change in velocity whatsoever", "Check this one out too\n\nhttps://youtu.be/a9oAxN-GZxI", "Holy shit I haven't laughed that hard in a long time... That was amazing", "[“He took the…string”](https://youtu.be/2N7c6ecYb-8?t=142)", "Who?", "He stole the idea from family guy I believe. https://youtu.be/vjetHZtehNQ", "Well, I can't do it, so I'm giving the kid props", "Fair enough my dude. I’m probably just jealous.", "I could be wildly mistaken, but I seen to remember reading that unless both parents are little people, the odds of passing the gene down after very slim.", "Exactly what I was thinking, kid was clever with it and she really seems to have a great sense of humor and takes it all in stride.", "/r/scriptedshortpeoplegifs", "We should start a club", "Oh for sure. Once you get into gigging musicians, there’s a whole new world of jokes that open up. No one is safe.", "I’m crying this is so good!", "wait, WHY was Frankie Munez not a 1 episode junkie side character who blamed Walt for his addiction causing Walt to actually second-guess his actions, would have been insane", "What a god damn inspiration. Thanks for this.", "Complications from it is what I heard, yeah. Dude was in a lot of pain towards the end.", "Fucking annoying lol. Watch the video and enjoy it or fuck off lol. It’s completely irrelevant if this is scripted or not. It’s like 2 mins of people having fun. It’s not something important. Go use your super impressive detective skills on a video that actually matters whether it’s been scripted or not.\n\n\nAlso what? That’s your proof? That the bed is too nicely made and it’s bright out? You ever nap during the day?? You really tossing and turning that much during your 15 minute nap that your sheets and pillows end up a mess?", "No, poor bastard... Parents named him Todd. Or as he called himself, \"Todd The Man of Two Dicks.\"", "To me, that guy seems like a more put-together Brad Leone...", "And so do you", "everyone in this thread is a pussy. why is no one acknowledging that part of the value of this video is because his mom is a mdget, Its cool I'm just appreciating the variety of people I don't respect her less or anything I just want her to know that it's cool and I'm thinking about it (like what it'd be like to be a mdget)", "Kid hit the Mom jackpot. So fun to watch. Her reactions are priceless and wonderful.", "this is so beautiful", "Oh nice, I wonder why the guy deleted his comment", "Holy balls that bro is a LEGEND! :O", "Both he and \"Crip Bob\" were personal heroes to me for this very reason.", "Man. That was hilarious. Good share bro.", "I love positive content like this!", "Oh wow, I gotta check this out. Damn YouTube is blocked at work.", "I think you're more likely to develop a sense of humor with a disability, because it's literally a defense mechanism.", "I love positive content like this.", "Me, too! I cried ffs! Sheesh. Sending you joy!", "Man, he arms look painful. I know she's in good spirits, but damn she must go through a lot.", "That is simply the best! Trombones are funny in the first place, but that kid knocks it out of the park! Mom is a super good sport too! Bravo!", "How to be a badass in the face of jerks. Dang that guy slays.", "So, you haven't watched the newer crew? I mean James and Elyse are still there and they are the two with the zingers. And of course it's not the same, who wants something to stay the same forever. I say the new crew is better than the old crew because they bring new types of humour to the channel while also keeping the core comedy duo that is James and Elyse. Also Ryan is a gold mine of stories and goofy humor. And Charlotte is the dry humor now, just as Lawrence was to the old crew. I think you should give them a shot.", "My favorite, because I get to laugh without feeling guilty or confused about an appropriate response.", "WORKOUT WEDNESDAY! \n\nI had my whole dept. hooked on workout wednesday.", "wat up lil mama 😎", "I absolutely lost it when he busted out the Star Wars theme!", "I could watch hours of this. He's talented and she has such great vibes.", "That was way more wholesome than the title suggested.", "God, that was a shit time for all of RT. We got like 4 bombs dropped on us in 2 weeks.", "I want to know them!!", "Kind of weird to see on the front page because it's someone from my hometown that I grew up with. His mom is one of the nicest ladies ever. She just exuded positivity all the time and it looks like she hasn't changed in the 20 or so years since I've seen her last.", "Staged and poorly acted.", "TL;DR You use aggressive language to try and bully people into siding with you. Even though you have no proof that you're even right.", ">She has a great sense of humor and they seem to have a wonderful relationship.\n\nWas going to say, I'm pretty sure most parents would kill for that type of relationship with their kid/s. As someone who didn't have that type of relationship as a kid, it's definitely something to cherish and be thankful for, makes a huge difference growing up.", "They're all friends, they weren't being jerks to him.", "Francis went from military school to Alaska to the ranch to trying to reconcile with his family to working a secret office job while pretending to be a deadbeat to mess with Lois.", "> I can't recall the name and I'm too lazy to look it up on my phone, but a coworker who had the same type went from spry and active to scooter bound within 18 months and died a few years later. Sad too because he was cool as fuck. \n\nIf you don't mind, what was the main issue that led to them passing? I'm sure dwarfism causes plenty of problems in the body, especially as people age. I'm just curious on what specifically is usualy affected.", "Calm down Ebert", "Ricky Berwick is another great example.", "Oh we found the dude who’s midget curious", "Homozygous achondroplasia is fatal.", "It's still staged and poorly acted.", "That's nice", "My wife is very pregnant and due in a few weeks. I really hope my kid is this fucking awesome.", "I went to highschool with him, he was a jerk wanting attention most of the time. I hope he grew up.", "AWW he was the grandpa Longneck from Land Before Time, too!!", "Fucking right?", "WOW BOY YOU SURE SHOWED THEM WHAT'S WHAT HUH BUDDY?! WHEW!", "midge", "Those aren't trombone sound effects. That's a trombone.", "Who the fuck raised em", "Yeah i dunno about 'annoying', she's awesome.", "Well the actor's brother was just sent to prison for rape. I heard that family isn't easy to work with.", "Do you mean Adam? He wasn't a freak... he had his personal life violated and plastered all over the web.", "You wouldn't have to pay a trombone player much to do that. They'll take any gigs they can get.", "Thank you, I appreciate it. :)", "It looks like they have such a good relationship and have a lot of fun together. I really hope it's real and not just their public persona. With 2.5 million subscribers I wouldn't be surprised either way. It's a business. But I really hope what we see in the videos are the genuine article.", "My psychotic parents really only taught me two things for sure. \n\n1) if you want a ring and a contract to prove that I love you, get the fuck out of my house. \n\n2) people who can laugh at themselves are much happier than people who can't. \n\nOn a side note, I would cherish a relationship like this with either of them if it were even remotely possible. Oh well. Good on this lady for being a proper good mom and both of them for enjoying life rather than resenting it and being bitter assholes about it.", "I'd highly recommend showing your son Christopher Bill on youtube. He's a professional musician who focuses on Trombone and has done a lot of fun stuff.\n\nFor example, if your son likes video games, Christopher Bill's Video Game Symphonies [1](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn0nZW4W-6Y) ,[2](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XAfw80TDlo) ,[3](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgQHKH4Ubi0) ,[and 4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuyhbWTcFjI) are awesome.\n\nHe even has the sheet musical for free on his website https://www.classicaltrombone.com/video-game-sm\n\nTell your son good luck! I had some of the best school memories plying trombone in concert band, jazz band, brass choir, and marching band.", "Thank you. I did find a bunch of videos of him last night in my iCloud account that I thought I had long since deleted so that was a nice surprise. I know eventually the sadness will go away and I’ll just have the happy memories left but it’s hard right now.", "Thank you. He was very loved. :)", "Music lessons regret", "Does it change anything if I enjoyed the video but also think it's scripted?", "If you can't torment your loved ones, why have them?", "Have you looked at the views? Who gets that crazy amount of views within three days? This thing has 35 million views: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9PfVture-E Is he Russian??? What a load of bullshit this is. Why would anyone watch that? Thirty-five million people watched that? Bullshit.", "The most wholesome thing I’ve seen in a while. Thanks.", "Fake", "Thank God his mom has a good sense of humor, no need to get short with him.", "If you think this is bad you should see the porno they made", "It can still be 100% real though, my brothers when they were younger would flip out at games and rage. I would set up my camera and watch them play COD and it was golden. So having a camera pre set doesnt mean its all faked or planned", "Interesting user name", "Of course it’s staged, he’s on the back of her little scooter at one point holding a trombone…", "\"Annoys\"", "That kid loves his trombone. It’s pretty cool.", "Good sir, I believe he's vying for that throne with [Ricky Berwick](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnBhY8jMEZzSSuFPz6JSAxQ).", "ok he's pretty funny but he seems to have lifted a lot of bits from Blairs Cousin Geri from Facts of Life. I mean I get parallel thinking but no way Josh wasn't familiar with Geri Jewell. He still makes me laugh, but so does Denis Leary and he gets plenty of hate. makes me laugh so whatever.", "None of us knew. Some suspected he committed suicide and the family wouldn't say. He had been massively hooked on narcotics from the pain. We confided in one another. He didn't want to live life incapable of moving without pain.", "I only use tik tok to watch these two", "That was wholesome.", "Back then sitcoms weren't as much about arcs as they were giving the audience what they want, and the farmer Francis storyline wasn't doing it anymore", "Theyre just harping on old cartoons, uts the same gag told differently", "Oh my god I love this and I miss my mother. Thank you for this.", "Star Wars music killed me", "I want to play D&D with this guy", "Refreshing, thanks!", "It's still staged and poorly acted.", "LMFAO", "I love how Francis' reaction is relatively reasonable giving how much of a dick Willie was but he came off totally deranged to anybody else.", "That's Peet! He has a pretty good tiktok following. His whole family are LP except for him. The videos of him scaring his mom are great too", "When I was really young I had a friend with cerebral palsy. Unfortunately lost touch when my family moved away, but people born with disabilities tend to adapt really well. Hopefully it didn't affect him any further as he got into his teen years and beyond. I do personally worry about if I go blind later in life because I don't know how I'd adapt at all, particularly since I drive a lot for work and play video games in my spare time.", "whoever had intercourse with her should definitely be put on watch ☠️", "OP was obviously grading on the curve.\n\nYou're visibly offended, which telegraphs that you don't have any kids.\n\nAlso, it's 27 fuckin cats raising some kids.... What do you expect.", "That’s a grown ass man", "[ Jump to 00:13 @ favorite sound effecting mom clips😇](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYwpvfhpNJw&t=0h0m13s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: Peet Montzingo, Video Popularity: 96.84%, Video Length: [58])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@00:08](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYwpvfhpNJw&t=0h0m8s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^\| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)", "I never knew how versatile the tronbone was. Kudos to the mom for being a good sport.", "This is wholesome AF", "Lol the SpongeBob chase scene at the end got me", "Made me smile :)", "\\Kid annoys", "That is a relationship to cherish. Made me smile all along.", "Haha. That's really cute.", "Hahahahahaha", "That little lady is adorable", "Lmao what project more", "Sounds like my D series civic", "This was awesome. Can anyone explain to me why I get overjoyed whenever I see a little person? I can be having a crappy day and I instantly become happy when I have an interaction with a little person. I can't explain it and seeing videos make me happy as well.", "I don't worry about that, because I know the answer to that question. I don't like that answer, but I do know it, at least.", "True. Imagine having fun with a talent.. /s", "She’s probably got a short fuse for that kind of treatment.", "That was fun =)", ">lol - downvotes for saying wholesome. Reddit never fails to amaze. \n\nYou'll likely get more for this edit", "Are you OK?", "Stop letting this guy be abusive to his mother.", "I haven't played Trombone in many moons, but I would gladly take that offer.", "I love how the mom cracks up when the kid plays the \"womp womp\" sound", "The William Ryker prequel I never knew I needed.", "I am a trombone player too who will play any gig.", "That's the truest mom I've ever seen", "Kid stages every video for internet points", "This was exactly what I was thinking and I am happy someone else thought so, too", "Commenters comment below for these sound effects.", "Bro that dude sounds fun to play Lego starwars with", "I like them. I like them a lot.", "The mom is hilarious. You know she secretly loves it.", "Mom THICC 👅😫", "MIKE JONES!!!", "Made me smile", "yea ok this looks real.", "giant heart!", "She looked a little annoyed", "LOL we did, actually. I was the DM.", "This is what ~~Fred and~~ George from Harry Potter would be doing if ~~they were~~ he was a muggle~~s~~.", "Achondroplasia! It’s a Dominant mutation, with homozygous status being lethal in utero. So all living individuals with achondroplasia are heterozygous for the mutation; therefore if they reproduce with a “normal” individual, they have a 50/50 chance at having a small vs average size offspring", "I love it.", "So cool snd dude can blow too", "My wife and I have been watching religiously since the Inside Gaming days. It’s definitely different, but the new crew is amazing and have put out some of my favorite content to date.", "If he played the oompa loompa song he would be dead.", "If I tried that wake up .... I wouldn't be here", "It's funnier because she's a midget but she plays along really well so wholesome too.", "How did he get over two million subs ?", "Their videos are always so cute and wholesome whenever I see them! :)", "Lovely", "Oh no! Eighth position!", "What did they do this for again?", "https://youtu.be/XZvWvfCSZ8M", "Yes, his dad, brother, and sister are also little people. He's the only non dwarf in his immediate family.", "u/savevideobot", "On reddit, that is exactly what will get you downvoted.", "soooo cool!!", "It’s not stealing, it’s clearly an homage.", "No", "It's not best to call them midgets. They're small people, who have dwarfism.", "Right? It’s pathetic", "She's had up to here.", "Achondroplasia?", "Ahh well I didn't know that then, lol.", "I watched the post video on my own and cracked up until I cried. So glad I can experience this one for the first time with my partner together. Thank you!!", "His brother and sister are adopted. He’s the only bio kid, and he’s the one who ended up not a dwarf. Kinda interesting. He also looks just like his mom in the face.\n\nHe actually talks about how he wished he were a dwarf when he was younger. He felt out of place in his own family. He ended up being 6’ tall.", "^^^^I ^^^^wish ^^^^I ^^^^didn't ^^^^hate ^^^^my ^^^^mom...", "I want a mini mom!", "Hah! Good stuff, right here. Puts a smile on me face.", "I played trombone for a few years when I was young and when she took the slide off and waved it over her head I winced thinking spit was gonna drain out of it", "/r/nothingeverhappensandiswearimnotasadperson", "Fucking legend.", "> Apparently that stuck with her, because she completely turned around her attitude - and lo and behold, people actually enjoyed her company again and would go out of their way to help her out.\n\nHonestly. Like even not counting the disability, most people are willing to help somebody pleasant and enjoyable to be around. Toss in a visible need for help and they'll get what they need before they ask, more often than not.", "great work by the kid....", "He must think very little about noise pollution.\n\nBut the over 2 million youtube subs dwarfs the competition!", "Lol", "So he could kick all their asses if he wanted to and do whatever he wants and run the house lol nice\n\nMy dads a fourth degree black belt in tae kwon do so I could never do that", "Also since his whole family is dwarves then it's like that movie Tiptoes with Gary Oldman and Matthew McConaughey LMFAO0O0O0O0O0O", "Shes a good sport and loves him very much.", "A genuine laugh while in bed at 12:05am. Thank you!", "[I terminatored in with that](https://youtu.be/gL95aeNjarU)\n\nreddit thread - https://old.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/wrag1/zach_anners_riding_shotgun/", "The trombone on the motorbike killed me", "I LOVE THEM.", "I see you've bought into the gaslighting.", "So cute!", "I LOVE THIS 🙏🏻❤️💯", "Wholesome", "This is the wholesomest thing I've seen all day", "What a legend", "Careless Whisper when she started the fireplace had me rolling!", "That Star Wars saber fight", "The smile I did not know I needed", "Didn’t ask", "All I hear is a bunch of mimimimi. So maybe your point was to mimimimi", "Not to be too dramatic, but I'd die for that mom", "i remember them.", "This is a great video. Love this, made me smile", "it was clearly genuine", "This is adorable", "I’m confused, are dwarfs able to make kids? It’s a serious question.", "Yeah I become a huge asshole when I experience any amount of continual pain. Not looking forward to getting older...", "Always the first thing I remember when I see his name, glad I'm not the only one. 😂", "It felt like watching Tom and Jerry!", "What a dick for making fun of a Little Person.\n\n/s", "Idk why but something about keeping the bounding box visible just cracks me up every time", "Entertainment", "Y'all have no idea how loud that thing is lmao. The whole neighbourhood heard him when he played outside haha.", "I love this", "Lol someone banged a midget", "They're people dude, of course they can. Jeezus.", "You're a creep.", "10 years too late to be on Ellen kid", "I’m in tears. 😂", "Here's a funny video of him & Funhaus [making fun of some bad video games](https://youtu.be/st0PJZ-o-pE).", "Star wars one was hilarious", "Off course they’re people, I’m looking for a prof answer though. There’s a girl in my work that I have strong feelings for. She’s short ‘short’ but not a dwarf though. I never thought she can conceive until I saw this video, and that kept me from committing. I’m really looking for professional answers here, it’s imperative for me to know.", "Honestly, people that don't understand that 99% of content is staged are beyond help at this point. Don't waste your energy, you'll never get through to them.", "Shame on you annoying your mom", "are you ok?", "That's hilarious!", "It's genetic. So it's either chance, or his dad is the mailman", "Hes in a band called 5WEST", "This feels so unreal like plastic comedy", "I'm surprised they're still there. After seeing how much money Bruce is making off of Twitch, it's safe to say that there's an audience waiting for them and quite a bit of money to be made if they ever made the transition to streaming.", "I haven't watched a ton of Bruce's content since, as you said, it's nearly unwatchable compared to much better streams. You're likely correct. However, that's not to say that other former members of FunHaus haven't been successful. Lawrence runs a solid stream and makes a decent amount of money; Jon is inconsistent due to scheduling but still does well for himself inspite of that. \n\nConsidering how popular they are. I imagine that they would do still do much better than either Lawrence or Jon if they went that route. \n\nI suppose it's a tad bit of frustration on my part since it seems that other former members have moved on to bigger and better things yet James and Elyse (my favorite members of the team) are sort of languishing on a dying channel. I would just like to see the two of them move on to different projects since they're both quite talented.", "Ctrl-f'd for this. You only get one, keep them close.", "They look like they have fun. That's cute.", "So cute", "That one..! I love this duo..", "Oh no! Anyway...\n\nFake internet points are fun, kinda like game tickets at Chuck E. Cheese. Spend a lot of effort to get them, and you get a cheap prize at the end. \n\nThey can also downvote this. It's a signal of their character.\n\nBut I'll upvote your comment. :)", "I think you don't understand how these videos work then", "Sad trombooonne", "You don't have to be super rich, just listen to Hannibal Buress explain how:\nhttps://youtu.be/2KyHsWrG5eY?t=44\n\nEdit with proper url and timestamp", "Explain you fucking dumbass lmao. Just say you want to fuck a midget and move on", "I love seeing mom's having fun with their kids. 100% wholesome fun. :)", "They're just people dude, who cares?", "Because this kind of shit gets really annoying, people talking about things they clearly do not unerstand.\n\ngrim_sins did a perfect job explaining what was going on and instead of seeing and understanding it you bring up some barely applicable \"example\" that only applies to a subset of movies, one that doesn't counter the point at all -- you in fact completely missed that point.\n\nShit like this just gets annoying and old.", "No one is forcing you to be here. Have a nice life getting pissed at things that have literally nothing to do with you. That certainly sounds fun.", "Pole Position? Sad that is not one of the top comments.", "The racing sounds got me good" ]	946	videos	Kids annoys his mum with trombone sound effects
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVqqNigImtU	/r/videos/comments/rbshum/dennis_james_and_his_glass_armonica/	[ "“… until they were banned.” \n\n“…people were falling over dead in the audience and other people lost their minds.” \n\nGreat watch, especially when they stumble upon this aspect of the instrument’s history toward the end.", "Hey where’s his dumb hat?", "The video shows that the way the player increases volume is to floor the motor pedal while increasing pressure of the fingers, but it seems that the motor increases the speed of rotation of all of the bowls.\n\nWhat happens when a player wants a particular note in a chord to be louder than the rest without ?arpeggiating? the chord?", "I love how at [20 minutes](https://youtu.be/cVqqNigImtU?t=1194) he asks why the guy chose this instrument and theremin, two very difficult instruments. Then he's about to say something and it just cuts away.", "“Do you have coke in a glass harmonica”\n\n-Mitch Hedberg", "Press harder with the fingers for those notes to be louder, but not with the other fingers.", "Good gravy, that's a ton of glass. Think of all the salads that could have been made", "That's what I thought first, but the muscian states that when you increase speed you have to press harder otherwise no noise.", "So youre stuck with the limitation of the instrument.\n\nYou can make one louder than the other put only within the limits the instrument allows between those two notes.", "Seems like it. That's just the way it is doe", "Yo this is kinda sick . seriously glad i watched this", "Really cool video - the tone of the instrument is so ghostly and unique. Today, we are used to these sounds because they are so often produced electronically. But it is fun to imagine being a person from the Victorian era and hearing something like this for the first time.", "“This is an extremely fragile instrument,” as the guy is literally sitting on it. 🤣", "Let me check, \n\nhe said it was on your moms bed post.", "What does a fully modern version of this look like? Do you have thicker and thinner glass bowls to produce the sound? Does the shape of the glass change, like glass plates instead of bowls, cones instead of bowls, do you do nested cylinders instead of bowls? Would having each bowl on a separate motor set to keep the speed of the edge the same on all bowls be better (not RPM because that’s currently the same, but the velocity of the edge is different on every bowl currently). \n\nHow do you improve this to make playability better?" ]	15	videos	Dennis James and his Glass Armonica
https://youtu.be/DOHcavIIOYs	/r/videos/comments/rbu08z/what_would_happen_if_you_left_an_apple_in_water/	[ "Gross!", "There's no way it took 200 days for that water to evaporate", "You'd be surprised", "It needs to be totally submerged for 200 days. That may be interesting. As shown it goes completely as expected.", "Were the maggots eating the mold?", "Ok so nothing that interesting.", "I wondered, I came, and I was disappointed" ]	7	videos	What would happen if you left an apple in water for 200 days
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcEylCwkSxE	/r/videos/comments/rbu18z/last_year_snl_did_the_best_commercial_parody_ever/	[ "I agree! Probably one of the funniest skits I’ve ever seen on SNL. So good to watch it again😂", "I always wondered who these commercials were for, I always assumed there were rich people that actually did this sort of shit.", "I guess. Don't know anyone in my life that has that kind of cash to throw around and if they did, they sure wouldn't waste it on a car.", "The idea that as a married man I would just buy a car for my wife as a surprise is probably the most irresponsible thing I can think of.", "I would want these SNL ads without laughing track and then embed them as advertisements in websites and social media.", "Beck Bennett was very underrated.", "When you're rich, a car isn't all that much \"cash to throw around.\" A new car is around a year's wages for the average Joe, but if you're pulling in a decent six+ figures, and most is going into savings and further investments, you aren't really gonna miss even the cost of a Lexus.\n\nAnd maybe the wife has been talking about wanting a new car, maybe even that specific car, but the husband just kind of waved it off.\n\nAll that said, this skit was great, and also a completely plausible and more relatable scenario.", "The new cast is solid, but I'm missing Beck a ton. I wonder what he has in the works?", "Mirror?", "Its to remind you of the brand and invoke a specific feeling towards it. They do not expect the commercials to turn into enough direct car sales to make up for what it costs, sometimes marketing is a part of a long term goal not really tied to short term profit. Its something a lot of big companies do so they can stay big and because they can afford it.", "Probably depends on your financial situation. If I had $200,000,000 sitting in the bank I would have no problem buying a car for my wife as a surprise.", "she'd still find a reason to hate it/me", "Yeah but her boyfriend might like it, and I like to make him happy too.", "Blindly, yes, but it really depends. Already in the market for a new car and know exactly what she wants? That's different. Just knowing that you saved her 6 hours of her time at the dealership is a present in and of itself.", "The commercials are just to keep you thinking of the brand. That being said, I have seen a guy walk into a dealership I worked at with what I assume is an assistant, point out a truck, suv, and sports car, and go \"I want that, that, and that. Send the paperwork over.\" And walk right back out.", "This is hilarious if you can’t identify with any of these people, but it becomes depressingly accurate if you can.", "Former Ad Exec here. Just a hypothesis, but the holiday months are a low point seasonally for car buying. Money during that time is going more towards consumer goods. In order to mitigate the drop in revenue, auto companies do these winter specials. One of the ad angles is \"a car with a bow.\" This image sits with consumers.", "Winter months are a low seasonal point for car buying. The auto companies are probably trying to mitigate their down months by using these winter specials. The whole \"buy as a gift\" is just an image that resonates with people. It is silly, but the average consumer isn't actually thinking about that.", "Yeah i mean my partner would most likely say \"why the fuck did you buy me a car, donate that money to people who actually need it.\"\n\nEdit: I'm not sure why I'm being downvoted... She would say that. And I'd agree with her", "I love this (spoof) commercial.\n\nLast year or the year before, there was a similarly-themed Christmas commercial for a pickup truck, from Chevrolet I think. The guy not only surprised his wife with a fully loaded Silverado, but bought one for himself!\n\nOutside of corporate executives, who the hell can just drop money or a down payment on not one, but two huge vehicles?!?\n\nAlso, the dad in that spoof sounded a lot like Will Arnett. I know it wasn't him, but the similarity is there.", "Anybody got a Mirror for all the boys who don't speak 'Murican?", "While I like this one, my all-time favorite SNL Christmas commercial parody is the [Casey Affleck Dunkin' Donuts commercial](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSvNhxKJJyU). \n\nIn 2nd place is the [Macy's commercial from a couple years ago](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVXN85TJabg). As a parent of two small children, my wife and I quote the \"If you can do it, then DO IT!\" line a lot.", "No, it's a Lexus", "Those 3 new young guys are hilarious! the botex bit was incredible!", "I remember one of these that left me confused, it was literally the kids that got it it for their parents. Did the kids pull off identity fraud for the financing?", "It's to get people to associate the Lexus with rich people. The goals is to make it a status symbol.\n\nIronically, this SNL parody probably has the exact same effect. \"You bought a Lexus?\" Implication: \"That's a car for rich people!\"", "Even if I was rich why would I just buy a car for my spouse or anybody without them coming to the dealership to pick the specific model, color, and features they want?\n\nMy mom, if she won the lottery, knows that I want a Tesla, but she doesn't know that I want a Model 3 AWD Long Range, Red, Aero Wheels, with FSD upgrade.", "They're going to try and return the car on Christmas?", "Yes! Rearview and sideview!", "1. Taco Town \n2. Colon Blow \n3. Xentrex \n4. Schmitt's Gay Beer\n5. December to Remember\n6. Alexa for Seniors \n7. Undercover Office Potty \n8. Mom Jeans \n9. Petchow Rat Poison \n10. Jim Carrey impersonating Matthew McConaughey Lincoln Ads", "You'd be surprised how often this happens. My mother gets a sudden spike in clients after the holidays (marriage therapist) and there's always ONE who has done this.", "Great acting!.. Almost makes me think it's not even acting.. Like the guy channeled his inner D-bag with laser focus.", "Funny yes. Best commercial, afraid not. The love toilet is greatest of all time.", "No, you need me, who will play the dumb idiotttt^ttttt^ttttt^tttt?", "Great list", "Higher executives with crazy christmas bonus, CEOs of companies, famous people, etc...", "Chonk? Bass o matic?", "Is Bass-O-Matic actually funny or do you just have nostalgia glasses on? \n\nLike I was going to put Ooops I Crapped My Pants on the list, but I was just remembering how funny I thought it was when I was 12. Now that I'm 33, it's not really top 10 funny.", "Shimmer Floor Wax?", "Pretty, pretty, pretty good. Never seen that one before.", "Awesome list, but no Crystal Gravy?", "I think there are just way too many good ones. I loved crystal gravy and that got me thinking of the Chris Farley hidden camera coffee crystals.", "I get that they are dated. They are before my time too. Will Levis Wokes be funny in 10 years?", "Chonk? Rectix? Dissing your Dog? Red Flag?", "Lmao I liked the one where they call the guys ex girlfriend to try and get her back", "Bass-O-Matic was funnier at the time. We've had so many infomercial parodies since then that it no longer seems unique or clever.", "the sam adams and duncan donuts ones are all-timers too", "A classic SNL bit, relatively funny concept that starts off well but continues to get wackier until it’s no longer funny.\n\nBrevity is the soul of wit and SNL is going long", "I totally agree with your post.\n\nThat said, in my own admittedly anecdotal experience, the kind of non-multimillionaire (liquid, not retirement/real estate or otherwise untouchable funds) person that will - unasked for & without consulting their spouse - buy a car for their s/o is the kind of person who maxes out their multiple credit cards to keep up a certain look.\n\nThose kind of folks are about a half-step away from bankruptcy, or well on their way.", "The [Bill Burr Sam Adams](https://youtu.be/je1NIf8GeeY) is spiritually a sequel that’s just as funny to the Dunkin one", "It's Almost Pizza", "\"That family can casually buy a car as a present and they chose a Lexus? Well we can afford one even though we aren't rich...if its good enough for that kind of wealth it must be good enough for us\" - the subconscious thought its trying to provoke in upper middle class families", "My favorite part of Chonk is when they start to launch into the kids line and the mom interupts. \"No. I don't want this for her.\"", "The Dunkin' Donuts one is like watching my cousin, Todd, from the South Shore.", "The laugh track makes it unbearable to watch", "I fahkin LOVE Dunkin, whaddya talkin bout?", "As a parent of a young kid living in Boston, both of these are way too accurate.", "Come on, that's pizza.", "I heard somewhere that a major goal of advertising for big purchases like cars is to make people who've already bought those things feel good about the purchase so the next time they buy a car they won't think \"Well I kind of regretted buying that Lexus, maybe I should look at different brands this time\"", "/r/AreTheStraightsOk", "That [little girl just laughing during the whole take of her parents arguing](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVXN85TJabg&t=84s) is just too cute, I like how they just left it in and kept going.", "We have that much money in our bank and I would definitely not unexpectedly buy a car for my wife.\n\nEdit: saw 3 less zeroes than you wrote.", "that's what they intended", "Absolutely agree with that.", "Lexus isn't advertising to normal folks.", "Coffee crystals not in your top 10? “YOU LIED TO ME!”", "This guy knows SNL", "Agreed. This is essentially declaring war on everything that makes a marriage stable.", "It's funny but it's still just a Lexus commercial.", "That line that it's the kind of beer in fridge for months lol", "The best part of the ad is how he calls the employee Mark. I love the first name basis gag with locals lol", "Happy Fun Ball should be #1", "I think people like me would be stoked with a gift like that. (In the scenario where my spouse and I have endless amounts of money.) \nThey’d know enough to know I want a black vehicle and past that, they’d know way more about what features are worth having. I don’t care/don’t know much and they do. \nSo for someone like you, yeah, that’d be a bad gift but I imagine there are plenty of people like me who would just be stoked to get a new vehicle that I otherwise wouldn’t buy for myself.", "I love the people that are like\n\n\"If you were rich...\" \n\nNah man it don't matter", "I work for super wealthy customers. They buy new cars practically every year. They know their favorite colors and always get the absolute fully loaded model. Trade in or sell last years model. It’s absurd.", "I'd still be stoked to get a free car, but if you're going to drop $50k+ to buy me a car, why not get the one I actually want?", "Do not look at Happy Fun Ball for more than several seconds at a time. Continued exposure to Happy Fun Ball can cause blindness.\n\nI hate top 10 lists. I should remove Mom Jeans and replace it with Happy Fun Ball.", "[Steve Martin's Penis Beauty Creme?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee3oKSEqU_Q)", "LIIIIIIIIINCOOOOOOOOOLN", "“Daddy’s a dumbass!”", "I think I have a new euphemism for masturbating. \"Wrestling your wiggly little monster\".", "It's stunning to see how many people enjoy SNL. Most of the people who show it to me don't even laugh at it, they just nod and smirk when the studio audience laugh track plays.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nIs this really funny to you guys???", "I can't believe I've never seen this. I loved the Forte/Hader/Wiig/Armisen era.", "Why not? To me there are two distinct issues at hand. The price point, and somewhat intimate nature of the gift.\n\nEveryone has a price point that they are comfortable with in regards to gifts. It might be $20, $500, $1k, $50k, whatever. That will depend on people's finances. \n\nBy intimate, I mean it's sort of like buying someone a couch or art. If it's something they will be interacting with frequently, you really need to make sure it's the right thing. No one wants to feel obligated to hang up some art they think is hideous in their house where they will see it all the time and they don't want to drive a car they dislike. \n\nIf the price point fits in your gift budget range and you know what they like, then go for it. You can probably work something out with the dealership to swap vehicles if they want something slightly different anyways.", "It's not really a laugh track though? Don't they play these live while the cast is in between sets?", "Old Glory Robot Insurance", "Yeah it is so much easier to surprise someone by taking them for a ride, and going to the dealership and then say, \"merry Christmas, any car you want for $50k\"", "I know exactly the kind of car my wife would want without having to ask her. I’d never just up and buy it of course, but that’s because it would empty our bank account. But if I had tens of millions of dollars, sure. And if there are any trim changes she’d want to make, that’s something that the dealer can handle after the fact if we really want. \n\nThese aren’t regular levels of wealth we’re talking about here.", "Lmao, SNL is so garbage now", "Idiots.", "If you have that much money a 50,000$ car is still a big deal and if you have that much money wouldnt you want your wife to just pick what she will be driving for YEARS", "Rectix?", "Don't forget Little Chocolate Doughnuts.", "That's the equivalent of someone with $2,000 in their bank account spending 50 cents. If I spent 50 cents right now, my wife would not notice.", "what's the one w/ kids holiday clothes and its just children throwing tantrums for 3 minutes, that one is great too.", "Fashion Coward, Home appliances for men... SNL has a ton of great ones.", "Yeah if you make 100 M a year, yeah you can give a car as a gift, I get it.", "you misspelled taco town", "yes", "no, we're all just messing with you", "Oh sorry I read 200k not 200 million. You’ll never have 200 million so I guess you would never do it", "This hit me right in the marriage.", "how much did you spend on this ridiculous car?", "the long con", "Bad Idea Jeans?", "My ex wife went to “look at cars.” I told her we both had ours paid off, and several other bills to handle. She came back with a model\nYear, all the bells and whistles, and about 55,000 debt. It was one of the few times I ever got super angry with her. Then, after I took care of her after a major operation, started acting shitty to me, and told me she wanted to sell the house and get a divorce. The same day my buddy died. As my brother so eloquently put it, I “put a ring on the fart in the elevator, dude.”", "Didn't get the joke because I'm Canadian :(", "GE Big Boy home appliances has to be top 10 all time", "Wells for Boys", "Get back to WSB you artist", "YES", "Oh is Beck gone?? Dude huge fan of good neighborstuff I hope they get back together soon.", "Debate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yqfr-fCyyNc", "it always has been though? Lexus is literally Toyotas luxury brand, specifically made for rich people\n\nAlso, even non-luxury brands put out these commercials", "Lexus seems to have pulled back a little this year : )", "hot original take", "Which is hilariously relatable. Also the “well it’s kind of sweet, but there was nothing else to drink”", "I mean, in most instances. I haven't done this, but I know exactly what car my wife wants and we're lucky enough to both (a) have enough money that buying a car really isn't a big deal and (b) we both have pretty modest taste in cars.\n\nI wouldn't buy her a Lexus, but I might buy her that Forester that I know she wants.", "Far from the best ever.", "These are paid adverts- this is a Lexus commercial, and other where in this thread is a real Macy’s commercial. SNL is absolutely compensated", "You’re so much more sophisticated than me. Can I give you head???", "Someone in r/denver did a \"what do you do and how much do you make?\" A guy made like $450k a year. Maybe then I'd buy my wife a car but then again I probably wouldn't get married if I made that much.", "Torino's pizza roles didnt even make your list?", "Now redo this with links please. 😘", "Thanks [Oops I crapped my pants!](https://youtu.be/rQ9qsXu34SM)", "Thanks [Oops I crapped my pants!](https://youtu.be/rQ9qsXu34SM)", "Thanks. I’ll go down memory lane with these", "Ha ha, all of those were awesome.", "I think they were GMCs which would have been even more expensive.", "Thanks!!!", "r/tomorrow is leaking.", "This reminds me of a friend who went and bought an wrx sti without telling his wife. The crazy thing is his annual net income was probably 27k.", "Do NOT taunt Happy Fun Ball", "But Lexus must have paid sponsorship to SNL for this, right? They say Lexus a hell of a lot in those few minutes, and the 'talk it over first' strapline? So its not so much a parody, as a genuine advertisement done in a slightly wink wink postmodern way?\n\nedit: Can't find anything about Lexus but lots of articles about SNL deliberately using product placement more in order to have fewer ad breaks and make the show more watchable. Essentially, building advertising into the show itself rather than interrupting the show for advertising:\n\n[https://variety.com/2017/tv/news/saturday-night-live-lorne-michaels-advertising-verizon-apple-1202026162/](https://variety.com/2017/tv/news/saturday-night-live-lorne-michaels-advertising-verizon-apple-1202026162/)\n\n[https://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-rosenthal-snl-ads-0428-biz-20160427-column.html](https://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-rosenthal-snl-ads-0428-biz-20160427-column.html)\n\nhttps://thecomicscomic.com/2016/10/17/this-is-what-branded-content-looks-like-on-saturday-night-live/", "I have loaned $2,000 to my sister, but I have never loaned $5,000 to a neighbor. If he is banging the wife, that might explain it.", "If Happy Fun Ball begins to smoke, seek shelter and cover head", "There are theories going around that we have reached “peak Reddit”… watching clips of SNL parodying commercials from our favorite brands to consume?… I think these theories hold some water.", "Rectix with Adam Sandler is great.", "For two seconds I was like that’s 1000x better why don’t they make commercials like that.\n\n It reminds you that you’re going to a dealership for the car and going to dealerships fucking sucks.\n\nAnd obviously easier to get one dumb dumb to think a spontaneous splurge purchase is a good idea than two.", "don't forget Old Glory Robot Insurance", "1.\t[Taco Town](https://youtu.be/evUWersr7pc)\n2.\t[Colon Blow](https://youtu.be/Ku42Iszh9KM)\n3.\t[Xentrex](https://youtu.be/5IZrYeUX3MI)\n4.\t[Schmitt's Gay Beer](https://youtu.be/hCOSejS1SSY)\n5.\t[December to Remember](https://youtu.be/WcEylCwkSxE)\n6.\t[Alexa for Seniors](https://youtu.be/YvT_gqs5ETk)\n7.\t[Undercover Office Potty](https://youtu.be/KUzGrzsYqH4)\n8.\t[Mom Jeans](https://youtu.be/2aVxNH6iN9I)\n9.\t[Petchow Rat Poison](https://youtu.be/IprSkoPs2aQ)\n10. [Jim Carrey impersonating Matthew McConaughey Lincoln Ads](https://youtu.be/z3eN9u5N2Q4)\n\nFor those who are like me and didn’t know what those sketches were", "> The idea that as a married man I would just buy a car for my wife as a surprise is probably the most irresponsible thing I can think of.\n\nI think this is one of the reasons I'd really want to keep finances separate if I got married (not that I plan to). \n\nIt seems like it would lead to a lot less arguments. \n\nKeep a joint account both of us deposit into monthly that housing/utilities are drawn from, along with a set amount going towards an emergency fund, be on the same page about what we're both investing into our own retirement accounts, but leave the rest of it separate. \n\nAs long as the joint account is being properly funded, and we stay on our retirement goals, we can each spend how we want from our own accounts and avoid any arguments over it.", "🤣😂🤣😂🤣 I said I wanted velvet interior not ivory!!!", "Is your mom a divorce attorney?", "The whole bit is then driving home that same joke but for some reason in this case it works", "Just because it mentions a brand doesn't necessarily mean that the brand is behind it. It's \\extremely\\ unlikely that any of these brands want to be associated with the parody ads.\n\nSince you made the definitive statement that \"SNL is absolutely compensated,\" show your work, please.", "The Dunkin Donuts one is legendary! Casey Affleck completely commits to that character.", "I do this. It works. Helps if you are both self-sufficient though, ha.", "Same. I know exactly what kind of a Subaru my wife wants, including the color. She talks about it a lot. When the time came, if I did this, she'd be thrilled.", "[Toilet death ejector](https://youtu.be/_9BjJkqybz8) might be my all time favorite.\n\n[Holiday Baking Championship](https://youtu.be/tebBj42fC3k) got me pretty good too, but that’s not really in the “parody commercial” vein.", "Happy Fun Ball may stick to certain types of skin.", "This is exactly me and my wife's setup\n\nJoint account for the house kids ECT. and each of us discretionary accounts. \n\nThis is the way", "If my gf was rich, she'd know to buy me a Reliant Robin so I could take corners like a hamster in a ball.", "only if you're a hot chick with huge honkers and considering we're having this conversation on reddit probably not!", "The real hero", "My dad did it once. He sold his firebird for a Subaru Legacy wagon in the early 90s when my mom was pregnant with me. The idea made a lot of sense, the execution was bad. He got ripped off on the trade in and had high interest. My mom called the dealership to see if they’d take it back, but that was a nonstarter. My mom told me that the best part about it was that the customer service rep asked my mom if she loved my dad. She said of course. The rep just took a breath and told her that if your love is strong you’ll get through this. They did, they’re happily married 30 years later.", "This was probably the skit that got them noticed by SNL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6wg12qp2FI", "My father bought my mother a convertible for her 40th birthday as a surprise gift. They didn't get divorced or anything. Happily married 53 years. Some couples are just like that.", "I love that Mikey Day plays the same character in both.", "> My mother gets a sudden spike in clients after the holidays (marriage therapist)", "Xanax and The United Way deserve special mention", "Because you would believe your spouse is incapable of having an opinion and you would think you would be doing them a favor", "> autist", "Yep, that's how you also get into situations like you want a 49k car that is 55k out the door and then they can only negotiate to 52k out the door and you feel bad for squeezing them for more.", "I would add Adam Sandler's buttplug for men commercial too", "It’s not a laugh track. It’s shown live in front of an audience", "The sketch is filmed beforehand. Then the laughs are added later when the show runs live.\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laugh_track\n\n>A laugh track (or laughter track) is a separate soundtrack for a recorded comedy show containing the sound of audience laughter. In some productions, the laughter is a live audience response instead", "Yeah, maybe if won powerball. But other than that, no way.", "I knew a couple where the dude was a very canny car guy. He would swap out cars like the every month or more and his wife said a few times she drove to work and the guy swapped out her car during the work day and she went home in the new one.\n\nI have no idea how they lived like that but they both seemed fine with it. They said it did not cost as much as it sounds like because the time was so short there was no real deprecation.", "Yeah I understand I’ve watched the show for years. This is different than a traditional comedy laugh track as it is a recording of the audience reaction to this sketch as it is being shown for the first time simultaneously to the studio audience and the television audience.", "I think you have found hostility in my post where none was intended. \n\nThe article that got me thinking this way is below- it makes sense from a modern advertising perspective, NBC has stated it to be the case as part of efforts to reduce commercial time by 30%.\n\nhttps://qz.com/670019/it-may-be-harder-to-distinguish-fake-saturday-night-live-ads-from-real-ones-next-season/amp/", "The Rock doing a White Castle commercial was better\n\nhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z0NgUhEs1R4", "That sucks dude. Most people only care about themselves. The second a girl thinks she can do better than you, most will leave. Did you cry when your friend died? You can find endless stories of women leaving their men after crying, losing their job, getting sick, etc. 70% of divorces are initiated by women for a reason.\n\nDoesn’t mean you can’t have great relationships and enjoy life. But unless she’s a saint don’t assume she’ll be with you forever. Only parents truly love grown men unconditionally.", "In my household I handle all finances around the house and cars. I’m also super into cars, I spend entirely too much time researching cars. My wife likes heated seats, beyond that she just doesn’t care. On a couple of occasions I’ve replaced her car right around her birthday. I joke that her present is a new car. But I typically get her a real gift as well. I might give her a choice of a few colours but I ultimately make the call. Does that make me an asshole? She’s been happy with every car I’ve gotten her, even when one was a minivan.", "I counter with Bad Idea jeans and Canis cologne.", "Think im going to do it. Wife needs a new car. Her current car has almost 400k miles. We've pretty much got one picked out", "Good lord. You ok man?", "Three of my favorites\n\n1. [Oops I crapped my Pants](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQ9qsXu34SM)\n2. [Totino's](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4kpVO56OBU) It starts out as a commercial before it turns into a story of forbidden sapphic love\n3. [Little Chocolate Donuts](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxCUHjx7U7Y)", "That was pretty great", "We have been making this joke on /r/cfb for at least a decade now.", "It's hilarious, had to watch it again. Thought I was on r/Lexus for a second.", "(Marriage therapist)", "No worse off than the gays but it’s a wsb thing", "You missed Almost Pizza....\n\nhttps://youtu.be/KLHRjaUBb3o", "My friend left a bunch of bud light in my fridge while visiting, and my response was \"fuck i hate bud light...well...alright, beer is beer.\"", "Ya know what tastes better than a good beer? A free one", "Just pop a hole into the bathroom wall, pull out enough for a Lexus.", "If I had that much money I would never drive the same car twice. Just have a guy who's full time job is to buy and sell a shit box for ever single trip for no damn reason at all except that I could.", "I think they mean when someone buys a car for their spouse without discussing it with them. Sounds like you and your wife have already decided that she needs a new car", "Yeah, but keep the mechanic. 400k miles is pretty good.", "Buying a car as a surprise is ok if the idea of buying a new car is NOT a surprise. Like if you’re already in the market for a new car and the other person already knows what they wanna get then buying it in secret isn’t the worst idea. If the idea of owning a new car is not even on their mind then it’s dumb as hell.", "I have an acquaintance and she has to \"make the finances work\" when her husband buys a new truck. (yes, I said \"buys\"...plural. This isn't an occasional thing)", "Beck Bennett is an American treasure.", "After the edit. Thanks.", "I'd go so far as to say they aren't advertising the idea of car buying. So much as getting people who might think of a car as a Christmas present to associate the Lexus brand.", "Honestly not a bad way to look at it.", "People are much more sensitive outside the confines of that circus so I said artist intentionally - like a damn pussy...", "Oops I Crapped My Pants is the best SNL commerical parody ever.", "I still watch this skit on YouTube all the time 👍", "While I certainly don't condone it, and it certainly is more expensive than buying a 4 year old used car, and hanging on to it forever ... I have heard of people playing the buy new / trade in / lease game and not have it be as expensive as it seems. It's still way more expensive than the 4 year old used plan. But just not like \"appearing to blow $20k a year\" expensive. \n \nI personally knew someone that did something similar with phones. They were super into phones, knew everything about the hot new stuff in the phone world. They were buying a brand new phone every 6 months or year, getting the model that they knew would still be hot in 6 to 12 months, selling it, and buying a new one. They tracked their costs, and it wasn't that much more than buying one and hanging on to it forever.", "Well two of their dads are producers at snl so I’m just pretty sure they were always on their radar", "And that's why your wife has a boyfriend.", "He's like, the King of Dunkin.", "I gotta include the Rosetta Stone commercial: https://youtu.be/ctDjnG8J9cY\n\nYou know why …", "It is. Its an ad that is shown and approved by Lexus and it just with a funny spin in it. The clients have the option to not air it if they feel it can negatively impact the brand itself.", "[No happy fun ball?](https://youtu.be/GmqeZl8OI2M)", "Zebra Corner probably mad they didn't think of this. \n\nLove Zebra Corner. I don't shake hands.\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d03svtYlFm8", "Well.... the mechanic has kept it running. Pretty much 2k every couple months. It's a Mazda cx9. I've pretty much rebuilt the entire thing at this point.", "What, no Handi-off?", "Hot damn. I loved our CX9 but it was hurting at 150k. I can't imagine stretching that thing to 400k.", "Ha dude. Like 12 wheel bearings. Drive shaft, new engine, all the front end bullshit. Brake system. Like seriously. Everything replaced. In runs weird. Heater just went out. Replaced the airbags. Just need a new car", "Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball!", "Yea ours went through tires and wheel bearings like crazy, always had a bit of a shake at highway speed that we were never able to sort out. We were a young family then and couldn't afford to keep it on the road anymore so we traded it in.", "If money isn't an issue for some, I guess, but sure as hell ain't happening in my much of the woods. I think around here it's like having a new riding mower parked in place of that Lexus", "Yeah I've always had enough money to fix but not really enough to replace. Got into a bad situation off the bat. Got it paid off and now we're making good money to move on. The something in the front causes it to fall out of alignment at freeway speeds that makes it shake. I have paid to fix it but the fix doesn't last very long. I can't remember what its called. I might not even trade it in when we get a new car. I might just take it to the desert and have a ceremony and blow it up.", "\"Hey, what are you doing back there, making out? Hahahahah!\"", "I’m a media buying assistant for some major car manufacturers who also has a degree in business as well as advertising, there’s also the aspect that car companies (local dealerships specifically) want to get the cars off the lot by Christmas because they’re taxed for every car on lot by Dec 31st. So combine the holiday cheer aspect from above along with Christmas bonuses, end of year sales, and trying to impress the neighbors, yeah these commercials are more effective than you think", "[Just plugging my favorite pre-SNL skit of Kyle and Beck](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqZQ9KM_LjY)", "OMG Holiday Baking Championship — I had never seen that before — I just laughed so loud I woke up my kid.", "Does anyone have the music video of seniors getting vaccine?", "Good for them, they’ve done well for 3 Sad Virgins.", "Wrong link?", "“It’s speaking in your grandma’s voice to try to lure you to hell”\n\nI fucking died laughing when I first saw it, honestly Eddie Murphy’s most recent episode has a ton of gold in it.", "Brilliant", "IDK if that's true \n\nhttps://www.vulture.com/2017/10/safelite-autoglass-not-thrilled-about-that-one-snl-sketch.html", "I'm surprised \"forbidden sapphic love\" doesn't get more upvotes.", "Nope..watch all the way", "My wife would also ask what is a Lexus and is it better than her Honda.", "I still miss the Safelite Repair sketch they did a few years ago. So sad they took it down...", "David S Pumpkins would like a word!\n\nGreat list, those are all classics", "Ummmm....happy fun ball?", "Anyone have a mirror link for us Canucks?", "Hilarious! I’d never seen that one before.", "Somebody must have seen it first on the Safelite side. There are plenty of requirements in regards to the verbiage other specifications that most campaigns need to follow. Maybe it was being worked alongside an Ad agency and they gave the go-ahead based on what the heads of the accounts said. I work in advertising and I just don't see how something like this gets made and aired without somebody in Safelite getting a breakdown of what is getting shot, as well as previewing it. Somebody lost their job due to this sketch. That I can guarantee that.", "I don't think you understand parody law", "Well he did win an Oscar for best actor a couple months after that.", "Colon Blow! Classic!", "Those are actually Mikey Day’s kids.", "Psh, lousy peasant. Get back to your low paying job without no (or awful) benefits so you can make me richer!", "Aww, come on. No love for the [Target ad?](https://youtu.be/VnzRFyOMD4U)", "I don't know how to make the cool links, but don't forget Adam Sandler in Rectix!\nhttps://youtu.be/O2FkgBIL-kI", "Schmitt's Gay is clearly #1", "[MIRROR](https://streamable.com/4cx9mk)", "SNL, still not funny since the 80s", "You forgot about the payoff at the end?", "That's on my list", "Pizza?! Now that's what I call a taco!", "Wtf?! Are you me", "At one point my wife was managing a building in a nice LA neighborhood (way above our usual cost of living). I was out walking the dog one morning and passed a house where a brand new lexus with a giant bow on it was being dropped off in the driveway by a dealership. It was strange to see in real life.", "[First Citywide Change Bank](https://youtu.be/CXDxNCzUspM) is up there too.", "utterly shitty", "My wife can’t have a boyfriend if he’s my boyfriend", "This happened like 6 months before Covid. It was heavy duty, in 2019. I left a job after 16 years, and a few months after, my wife wanted to split. It crushed me, but I had to relearn how to get back up. I am still learning.", "I just bought a new truck and I've been telling everyone that I bought it for my wife as a surprise christmas present. I really commit to the bit too so people have hilarious reactions", "> Outside of corporate executives, who the hell can just drop money or a down payment on not one, but two huge vehicles?!?\n\nIf you watch that commercial they appear to live in a house that people with exactly that kind of money would have", "\"SNL was at its peak back when I was in highschool!\" -everyone\n\n(especially those claiming an ad short from 2020 was the best, ever.)", "Why not if you can afford it?", "So the answer is no", "The Macy's parody! Gold.", "Not if you have a lot of disposable income its not.", "That's just called a three-way where you watch.", "Idk why the audience was so stiff when Bill hosted", "This is the already married version of 'proposing as a surprise without any prior discussion'.", "Hilarious detail with how they censored the drawing on his cast.", "Oh man! It took me a while to place him, but the Dad character is in one of my all time favorite YouTube video.\n\n[How to lose weight in 4 easy steps.](https://youtu.be/9mbp0DugfCA) It's kinda long but amazing.", "Do not taunt happy fun ball", "Dunkin has my vote for the best.", "Haha I didn't notice that! Good they left it in :)", "[More Totino's](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dzOLoOEToc)", "[Why? You son of a bitch! You no good son of a bitch!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdQKVDUBu2g)", "The vanilla NUT TAPS!", "Yeah, we can say the real heroes!", "* That turned into a live action F is For Family. Especially, >!the fight scene with the dad provoking the son to hit him, Interesting that this skit premiered a year before the final season when that took place. Wonder if one influenced the other.!<", "I don’t think so. But it’s early and I haven’t had my coffee yet.", "Yeah, not even close. [You have to go back a few years for that. The Mercury Mistress.](https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1b52) Remember when SNL was funny? \n[A close second.](https://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/chameleon-xle/2859849)", "mirror https://streamable.com/jzhwu", "The way he shouts \"Give me that fucking bottle\" in the middle of the fight makes it sound like he has 100% been in that situation before.", "Loved it!\n\nThis is exactly how it is..", "Because people not into cars do not care. Black SUV. Lexus. Done.", "Trying to watch SNL clips in Canada is always saddening. They're often blocked for us, like this one.", "Use of brand and likeness is not illegal when used for parody. SNL is a social commentary parody comedy, I can assure you, the Marketing Execs at Lexus spit out their coffee on Sunday morning as Lexus still runs these ads and this is a hardcore takedown of the concept of the ad.", "EXACTLY. I've been saying this for years about this fucking commercial. I would always say something to the effect \" what normal person spends $50k on car for their wife and have them not know about it?\". Normal people who watch football games where this bullshit is targeted to don't/can't make this purchase.\n\nI'm a little biased also as I've always believed vehicles to be liabilities and never spent more than $10k on a used car or truck that's lasted me 7-10 years.", "Marketing execs are very comfortable with the idea of completely different ads aimed at completely different types of customer. They can quite happily aim the stupid ad at stupid people and the smart funny ad at smart people. I am suspicious of this sketch because they say Lexus so many times, and the overall impression you get is that a new lexus is a lovely thing to have as long as you can afford it, the joke is on the dufus guy that couldnt afford it . The strapline 'talk it over first' makes me suspicious, its too positive. I mean 4k downpayment aint that much, right?\n\nA true takedown sketch would be about the stupidity of buying \\_any\\_ new car in the first place, I dont see any anti-consumerist slant is this sketch, we're just being asked to laugh at the stupid guy that couldnt afford a new car, and the car itself is portrayed very positively.\n\nedit: here you go, an article about how SNL is using more product placement as a way of making ad breaks shorter\n\n[https://variety.com/2017/tv/news/saturday-night-live-lorne-michaels-advertising-verizon-apple-1202026162/](https://variety.com/2017/tv/news/saturday-night-live-lorne-michaels-advertising-verizon-apple-1202026162/)", "If you have kids, the Macy’s commercial is on point. Marriages have dissolved over getting kids into holiday clothes.", "My favorite recent SNL skit. Oh, and [Xentrex works. ](https://youtu.be/5IZrYeUX3MI)", "Mawk", "This is the real truth in advertising. I’ve had two separate family members’ wives do this major purchase crap. Idiots.", "Don't forget the barely 8 week old puppy so along with the 90K truck (seriously, that's what the have at the bottom in small print that the one shown is that amount), you also now have a puppy that will keep you up at all hours for a few months and locks you into a 9-13 year commitment.", "This was slightly funny so it’s definitely the best thing SNL has done in years", "Beck would be a really good live action Randy Marsh", "So taco town is basically instagram food videos", "And in my experience those types of people don’t get terribly excited about vehicle purchases. I can’t imagine they’d think buying a truck and SUV for Christmas would be worthwhile.", "If money is not an issue it's a non issue. Meaning if the money is so plentiful not only does it not matter you bought a car but the gesture of buying the car is nearly meaningless as well. \n\nIn a world where the person is actually driving the car daily. Even if the money is available to me it would be rather disrespectful to just buy the car without the person's input. I wouldn't not want my spouse to do that and I assume my spouse wouldn't want me to. We are peers. I don't make decisions for her and she shouldn't make decisions for me unless there is no other option", "My old boss was always swapping sports cars... he was in a car club so always was able to find a good deal then would eventually find someone willing to buy it for a bit more than he paid within a year. He pretty much bought a used corvette 25 years ago and got free upgrades. Think his most recent is a 2013, his prior corvette he bought for 22 and sold for 28", "I’ve been married for 26 years and I can tell you that to buy one without discussing the financial implications is absurd, but it also neglects the point that she will probably want input on color, model, options, etc.", "Is that the one where they walked out into the driveway and she said “I want the red one” and he clearly had bought that one for himself?", "That's the exact one!", "> 4 year old used car, and hanging on to it forever\n\nThis guy doesn't know cars.", "It's interesting to see the number of people on the \"if they're rich/have millions\" side of the fence. Not hating or anything, it's just interesting to see.\n\nIf I made $6MM per year or $60,000 per year, I would never make such a large decision without informing my wife.", "A great deal of people out there just see their car as a vehicle with 4 wheels. The details don't matter so long as it runs.", "Yeah. So unrealistic. Especially since both trucks together cost as much as a 2br house in the Midwest (where the trucks would be popular).", "How is Mikey Day still in the cast? He sucks.", "I started a divorce by accident once, wife and I were visiting married friends and I said I'd kinda wanted a m/c but couldn't afford it and besides my wife needs a new car first. He called me a pussy and said I should just roll up on one. I said I had too much respect for the missus and laughed. I didn't know but his wife heard and exploded. He'd done this several times, said I'm the man, this is how it goes.\nI had no idea he was such a jerk. 6 months later split up and divorced. This was 20 yrs ago, I'm still miserably married to a dominating wonderful woman. \n\nedit: no m/c still but eldest is 20 and possibly an electric m/c now, off road only though.", "No love for Three Legged Jeans? Old GLory Insurance!? Crystal Gravy?!?!?", "The key to this is be willing to take a car that a dealer needs off their books and can’t move. \n\nOil at $180 a barrel? Dodge will pay you to get a 2500 off the lot. \n\nDealership has some incentive and has hit the minimum threshold for extra $$$. They will go below cost. \n\nYour leasing a car that a dealer has a customer who really wants? \n\nToyota Camry after the runaway car recall? Yah.. that was a quick sell.", "That is not the same thing as just buying someone a luxury car out of the blue, lol.", "Like this: \\[reddit!\\]\$https://reddit.com\$\n\nmakes this:\n\n[reddit!](https://reddit.com)", "It's all nice, safe corporate-approved humor. You think SNL would actually air a sketch that goes after the ridiculousness of those ads? Fuck no. It's just lazy comedy writing. The hard part is already done (there where and the what), now the writers just need to write the on-rail jokes.", "https://www.vulture.com/2017/10/safelite-autoglass-not-thrilled-about-that-one-snl-sketch.html", "Leave the wife and marry the mechanic. \nYou don't find often someone who can keep a car running for 400k miles.", "This sounds like a very high expense. How much are the parts and how much the work done?", "> Pretty much 2k every couple months. \n\nWell, that seems like a massive waste. Would've been cheaper to stop after the first few months.", "it's funny i saw this sketch air on tv like literally five days before the SNL one. It's like the version of this without cursing. convergent thinking! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PM35zqRvcyM&ab_channel=StudioC", "\"Yeah, but Angie wasnt like your ugly girlfriend.\" These guys have a super strong start", "Needed a car. Didn't have enough to buy a car.", "So take the bus or an occasional Uber. $2k is nuts to pay. Especially for multiple months. You were just tossing money out the window.", "No bus or Uber where I live. Rural area", "Ty I was scrolling for this one!", "Never said it was against the law, just that SNL usually makes these as a “value add” to companies that want their product in the show, even in a funny light.", "I tried it and it worked, thanks! Wish I could upvote twice" ]	320	videos	Last year, SNL did the best commercial parody ever: "December to Remember"
https://youtu.be/FvpRJMcbF3w	/r/videos/comments/rbuexs/the_businessman/	[ "Jesus Christ", "This is good video", "I actually kind of liked that music" ]	3	videos	The Businessman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zP-C88GJKyU	/r/videos/comments/rbum8m/theo_von_my_favorite_type_of_weed/	[ "Theo is the fucken best", "Teo ahahaha", "$200 of gas would have ran the car further but hey, you cant have it all.", "Snort a line of the devils dandruff you gotta say “praise god” after", "Gang gang" ]	5	videos	Theo Von - My Favorite Type of Weed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5YGQjh7MyQ	/r/videos/comments/rbvae4/the_yosemite_marijuana_plane_crash_my_favorite/	[ "They thought they were too high to crash", "Haha amazing", "Nice 🤪", "This entire documentary, Valley Uprising, is an absolute treat. Even if you're not into climbing I'd highly recommend it.", "Classic story!", "Absolutely!", "In the game Riders Republic that recently released you can find a downed jet in one of the Yosemite lakes in order to unlock a jetpack.... I'm just now realizing that this was probably a reference to this event! Pretty cool, thanks for posting the story", "Can't they still get in trouble for admiting selling weed illegally?", "Reminds me of all the \"square groupers\" folks have been finding off the Florida keys for years 😉🤣", "Nah, they're safe", "So did they just loot the plane with the two dead bodies still inside?", "Thankfully - No. I can't remember if this has been edited down, but this story is also in a book on climbers in the Yosemite Valley and the FBI removed the bodies shortly after the plane went down. They just left everything else.", "They removed the bodies but not the weed?", "It should be mentioned that this real life story is what inspired the film Cliffhanger.", "Yeah, it's in the middle of nowhere - literally. You'd need a team of 100 or so climbers to get it all out of there...", "We are so lucky now, Imagine being that excited about dirty water and plane fuel soaked weed.", "Further information, from what I recall: The person listening to the radio picked up the FBI's transmissions about the location and them removing the bodies. When the bodies were removed a winter storm moved in and blocked the FBI's access off to the lake. The only people who could get there were the Yosemite valley climbers and thus they went up there and got all the weed for themselves over several months of winter.\n\nThere was so much weed that some of these people became millionaires and started climbing companies. It could very well be the reason that climbing became mainstream, because of the profits from the weed.", "There's SO many great climbing docs. And they appeal to non-climbers just as well. Just to name a few ontop of Valley Uprising which is in my top 3:\n\n1. Meru. It's such a beautiful story and you WILL cry at the end. Probably the best climbing doc out there.\n\n2. Free Solo. Your hands will be sweaty, come prepared.\n\n3. The Dawn Wall. Just a man with a project that happens to be a massive rock wall.\n\n4. [A series of short docs called Reel Rock](https://www.redbull.com/us-en/shows/reel-rock-1) (free on Redbull.tv which is actually a great streaming platform). Tons of seasons of absolutely amazing content and covers every aspect of different types of climbing and its history. A few TOP tier episodes are Dura Dura (first one), Obe and Ashima, The Sensei, King's Line, Showdown at Horseshoe Hell (a personal favorite), Jumbo Love, Dodo's Delight(another fav and super good for non-climbers), Young Guns, Above the Sea, Age of Ondra, and more but I haven't seen the newer seasons multiple times.\n\n5. Cliffhanger ft. Sylvester Stallone, watch this one last and you will have a good laugh.", "Which companies?", "Also, touching the void. It's a docudrama, but is an incredible story.", "The jetpack gets you high.", "Oh i think NPR or maybe radiolab had an episode about this?", "Google pointed me to this article - Much more researched than the book I originally read the story in (After watching Valley Uprising). I should warn anyone who wants to click this link that the real story is not as exciting or romantic as it's been told throughout the decades: [https://www.mensjournal.com/adventure/the-legend-of-yosemites-dope-lake-w209503/](https://www.mensjournal.com/adventure/the-legend-of-yosemites-dope-lake-w209503/)", "I would add a 5th to your list as well, The Dawn Wall. No spoilers but it follows Tommy Caldwell climbing in Yosemite. The beginning goes into a crazy and pretty intense story that sets up the rest of the documentary while following Tommy.", "\"John Bachar, the Stonemaster and famous solo climber, was rumored to have used cash from his haul to help fund a successful climbing gear company.\"", "That one guy is still totally baked (\"we made a lot of money...a LOT of money <heh><heh>\"", "Just watching it and it was amazing!", "I knew I was missing a big one. Adding that as well.", "Hmm I haven’t seen that one.", "I listened to a podcast about it at least one of the bodies definitely was there the whole time but mostly underwater.", "that one is unbelievable.", "Shoutout to the Janja Garnbret ReelRock as well. All those docs are good recommendations.", "So many crazy decisions those dudes had to make.", "Man, do your self a favor and check it out. Im not even a climber but the story is insane.", "I'm sorry, but it isn't bullshit. They bought houses and cars and lived lavish lives - for a time. 1977 was a very different time.", "Cliffhanger is one of the best films ever - And the original idea for the script came from this incident.", ">On his last night in Yosemite, he noticed a fire burning in a campground nearby. He lit up some Thai stick and sauntered toward the trees. He found about a dozen young campers around a fire, so he passed his joint. Without revealing who he was, he told them a fantastic story about an airplane full of dope.\n\n>“I knew Jon Glisky and Jeff Nelson were dead,” Steinborn remembers. “I just had this romantic notion that someone should smoke that beautiful weed those guys were bringing back from Mexico.”\n\n...\n\n>When Schloss began to tell her about what went on in Yosemite in the months following the crash, she couldn’t help but laugh. It was her husband’s kind of scene.\n\n>“The climbers got a chance to push the limits of their sport. Jon would have loved that.\n\nThat actually was p romantic and exciting", "Reel Rock is amazing. (they're all fantastic, but reel rock keeps bringing content). Hope there's some new stuff soon.", ">Cliffhanger ft. Sylvester Stallone, watch this one last and you will have a good laugh.\n\nThat clips not gonna hold!", "Total redditor moment, nothing ever happens. We're supposed to take your speculation that this is bullshit at face value, but you wont do the smallest bit of research that would show you multiple corroborating articles and stories about this event.", "Add on the new Netflix doc 14 Peaks: Nothing is impossible. It's about the Nepalese team who climbed all the 8,000 meters + tall mountains in the world in record time.\n\nedit: Dirtbag: The Legend of Fred Beckey is great too.", "The alpinist which just came out is also incredible (Netflix in the USA, prime in Canada) and 14 peaks (also Netflix) are well worth watching.", "I’ve literally never heard of this! Must have been millions of dollars worth of weed that got looted!", "You could buy a middle class house for 50 grand in the 70s.", "I’d say Touching the Void is easily the best climbing documentary for non-climbers.", "The Aplinist is wonderful to see, too. It's on Netflix now. Imagine Free Solo, but climbing up ice interspersed and freezing cold rock. A beautiful documentary.", "That song still creeps into my head from time to time!", "Nothing like smoking some benzene with your weed.", "the Dollop podcast did a great episode about this", "Crime needs evidence....you can't get charged for having previously possessed or sold drugs if you don't have any on you. or police witnesses the act", "In winter the lake with the plane crash is about 9 miles from the nearest trailhead and really non-trivial to get to. Source: I've skied past the lake in winter.", "Add The Alpinist. If your hands get sweaty from Free Solo they will be abosultye drenched during The Alpinist. Even Alex Honnald from Free Solo says the guy in The Alpinist is insane.", "The idea that... SPOILER!!!\n\n\n\n\nHe did that shit with half of one of the most important fingers missing is absolutely insane.", "I've never once met an ex pot smoker.", "That sounds like a movie plot to me..", "One of the YouTube comments mentions Patagonia lmao I'd believe it", "Tbf weed wasn't up to $400/o back then either.", "Down in Nicaragua, where the currents tend to wash up cocaine that's been dumped the Gulf of Mexico, they call it \"the White Lobster.\"", "I'm guessing the Statute of Limitations has long since been passed.", "What is that song?", "Run To Your Mama by Goat (00:14; matched: `100%`)", "Links to the streaming platforms:\n\n[Run To Your Mama by Goat](https://lis.tn/RunToYourMama?t=14)\n\nI am a bot and this action was performed automatically \| [GitHub](https://github.com/AudDMusic/RedditBot) [^(new issue)](https://github.com/AudDMusic/RedditBot/issues/new) \| [Donate](https://www.reddit.com/r/AudD/comments/nua48w/please_consider_donating_and_making_the_bot_happy/) ^(Please consider supporting me on Patreon. Music recognition costs a lot)", "> Run To Your Mama by Goat\n\nThere's another song. Probably by Goat, but it comes in later.", "There was an estimated 6000lbs of it though.", "A sudden cash injection would make other purchases they may have been considering much easier.", "Add on The Alpinist and 14 Peaks and that’s a perfect list.", "awesome", "I'm not saying they didn't make a lot.", "Yep, even from those potato quality pictures I could make out the typical 70s Era ditch-weed your dad loved to brag about like it was something incredible. \n\nI bet a pound of today's weed would get you more bombed then whatever that stuff in the photos was.", "idk why you're getting downvoted.\n\nsoaked/frozen sacks of weed that explodes when you light it? bullshit.", "what about different times of '77 makes soaked/frozen weed flammable and or capable of exploding? it's the the explosion factor that wreaks so much bullshit for me.", "was about to suggest this, dat shit nuts.", "Re: Cliffhanger. If you like Hollywood style film pertaining to mountain climbing, I recommend K2: The Ultimate High", "I would think the IRS would be more interested than the DEA at this point.", "The new one on Netflix at the moment - 14 Peaks - is very good as well.", "Touching the Void is sick, I get tears in my eyes just thinking about the experience of even Watching it.", "I have watched both films this week. 14 Peaks motivated me to start getting back into shape. I watched Alpinist last night and had an emotional cry at the end. My oldest daughter is dating a young man that does some serious climbing and at times he will free climb what he considers \"safe.\" It scares the shit out of me.", "So did they ever find out who the pilots were? Where they were headed? Anything about them or the haul?" ]	81	videos	The Yosemite Marijuana Plane Crash - My favorite story about mountain climbers ever
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rbvr23/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/rbvr23/deleted_by_user/	[ "The drummer from Mutemath is phenomenal! His headphones, typically taped to his head, was a signature look of his \n\n> Darren Charles King (born June 25, 1982) is an American drummer and percussionist, best known for his association with the band Mutemath until his permanent departure in August 2017.He also played drums for the New Orleans-based Christian rock band Earthsuit for a short time. In concert he is often seen wearing a pair of headphones gaffer-taped to his head for foldback, something previously done by The Who drummer, Keith Moon. King grew up in the small town of Marshfield, Missouri. \n\nSource: [wiki](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darren_King)", "[Darren King](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darren_King) \n \n >Darren Charles King (born June 25, 1982) is an American drummer and percussionist, best known for his association with the band Mutemath until his permanent departure in August 2017. He also played drums for the New Orleans-based Christian rock band Earthsuit for a short time. In concert he is often seen wearing a pair of headphones gaffer-taped to his head for foldback, something previously done by The Who drummer, Keith Moon. King grew up in the small town of Marshfield, Missouri.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( \| )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( \| )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( \| )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove \| v1.5)", "Never heard anything by these guys before. Decent song, and, yeah, the drummer is excellent. I'll have to check out some other stuff.", "Whoa! As a bottom-shelf drummer this guy is the real deal! If you're gonna be on Letterman there ain't no point holding back, and whoo boy he did not. I fucking love that dude stood up in the middle of the song and that sat down just in time to smash that ride/crash cymbal. Thanks for sharing! Gonna have to rabbit hole Mutemath now.", "The snare sounds aweful", "I love it when bands really feel it on David Letterman. [E.g., Future Islands](https://youtu.be/GK4lD3Uf8_o)" ]	6	videos	[deleted by user]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ivpvYMZ2ss	/r/videos/comments/rbvrz2/this_is_an_eulers_disk/	[ "This would be a great trip toy", "Didn't expect that sudden ending.", "It is.", "Wow!" ]	5	videos	This is an Euler's Disk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zk872ERRVxA	/r/videos/comments/rbvvrj/a_nyt_journo_claimed_the_royalties_of_over_400/	[ "This is absolutely insane! Thank you for exposing this.", "This feels like an attack on the American way of life. It's perfectly legal to dupe. It occurs on all levels of society. \n\nOpposing duping is like opposing our justice system. And what then if you get rid of lawyers? Who would you then ask to make duping unlawful? The group of career dupers? How would you even get through life without it?", "Right on brother.\nHold this guy accountable.", "Contracts with lack of consideration are void, as are contracts based on false representation of facts. Both those techniques are used by dupers, possibly this NYT duper, and the legal system already knows how to handle it.", "Stop posting this", "Wow, fuck this guy", "Jordans twitter replies are full of complaints from NYTers over it haha!", "[Journalist Ian Urbina ‘Apologizes Unequivocally’ After Music Project Complaints](https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/ian-urbina-outlaw-ocean-apology-1268099/)", "Absolute pro used his apology to pitch the product", "The dude says he, like the artists, was disillusioned in his experience with Synesthesia… isn’t that the company in his wife’s name with his residential address?", "He needs to hand the copyrights and the money over. The more digging Jordan and others do the worse it gets - [https://twitter.com/bennjordan/status/1468663861733638152](https://twitter.com/bennjordan/status/1468663861733638152)", "Yep, registered to his wife.", "It seems so scummy that it's kind of hard to fathom how someone could not only pull this off but have their wife involved aswell. It's always shock to get a reminder that tons of these sociopaths are roaming around us, waiting for an opportunity to strike, like wolves in sheeps clothes.", "No, he's blaming another company.", "Since he's duped so many, you could even say he's a super duper" ]	16	videos	A NYT journo claimed the royalties of over 400 artists he appeared to have duped.
https://youtu.be/--WHBVeDrZM	/r/videos/comments/rbwir0/woman_raised_this_cat_like_a_dog_see_how_that/	[ "This is just a cat acting like a cat. I just got stunlocked into watching a random cat doing regular cat things?", "Norwegian forest cat. Very personable", "Thats your opinion", ":)" ]	4	videos	Woman raised this cat like a dog. See how that turned out.
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rbwjc3/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/rbwjc3/deleted_by_user/	[ "Nobody cares what your first liked video is.\n\nUse a proper title that describes the content, which helps people understand what each link is, and search for content later.", "Whyshouldshelisten", "You are one cantankerous individual.", "Just lol at thinking we care what videos you like", "Thought it might be interesting if other people did the same and posted their first liked videos too. It’s kind of like a snapshot of history. Everything is pretty pointless isn’t it? Oh well." ]	5	videos	[deleted by user]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cvJ6tfNG28	/r/videos/comments/rbwscv/this_man_is_really_in_grand_theft_auto_i_cant/	[ "This happened in 2014 - the guy ended up being sentenced to 160 years in prison.\n\nBefore sentencing he seemed to think it wasn't a big deal and was kind of enjoying his viral fame - I imagine his reality came crashing down around him when he heard that sentence.", ">Before sentencing he seemed to think it wasn't a big deal\n\nThat's the kind of sigma grindset that gets you sent right the fuck to jail.", "Imagine the kind of trauma the people this piece of shit carjacked have to deal with." ]	4	videos	This man is really in grand theft auto. *I can't believe he kept running for so long.
https://youtu.be/y3cDtYiOIzA	/r/videos/comments/rbxg3l/psa_dont_be_naked_in_front_of_message_therapist/	[ "I get so many texts, and it gives me so much anxiety. My therapist hates when I complain about this while I’m naked.", "Absolutely nobody at all: .....\n\nThis lady: I'M A PROFESSIONAL.", "It’s wild how many places are the “late night” or “masseuse” spots you speak of. After discovering this and seeking a professional place, it still wasn’t easy to find. Some of the places do even appear to be LMTs. From what I see there are many more body rub places than LMTs doing legit healing.\n\nI worked at a physical therapy office that also offered massage and the owner would always refer to our LMTs as “his massage girl.” It was super demeaning/annoying.\n\ntypo in your title", "Why doesn't she just say, \"We are medical professionals that work on your muscles and a penis is not a muscle. Therefore, we neither need to see it nor touch it.\" Would have made for a much shorter video.", "Using a 'nobody' meme in 2021?\n\nThis wasn't even unprompted. She explained in the beginning why she was making the video and the difference between a massage therapist and a masseuse.\n\nThe things I took issue with is that the video is too long for the message and that she was talking pretty ill of masseuses.", "It's actually not that hard if you Google your area to find a legit spa. If it's \"Asian\" whatever, it's a happy ending place. Yes, they're everywhere though. I'm very surprised by how many are actually out there.", "Even Asian buffet down the street?", "Yeah you don't even need to clothes on to walk in there. Save them some time and just go in with nothing on.", "Okay" ]	9	videos	PSA: Don’t be naked in front of message therapist
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rbxgc4/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/rbxgc4/deleted_by_user/	[ "Honk for Thatcher\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCCAnnLRcgY", "Many are quite outspoken about the damage her buddy Reagan did.", "[Ding dong](https://abcnews.go.com/International/margaret-thatchers-death-irreverently-marked-ding-dong-song/story?id=18939709)", "[Black Americans are, enjoy!](https://youtu.be/UQ1J7zRmPnA?t=156)", "For context, Thatcher was a bit of a cunt.", "\"For 3 million you could give everyone in Scotland a shovel, and we could dig a hole so deep we could hand her (Thatcher the Milk Snatcher) over to Satan in person. \"\n\nThere's some more bangers in this clip here.\nhttps://youtu.be/xmmomV-ax-s", "why is this showing as vertical", "Tell me how you really feel.", "Its 2:30 my and the cunt's still dead", "Apparently he raped Richard Pryor's son when Pryor Jr. was still a child... Legend?" ]	10	videos	[deleted by user]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iph500cPK28	/r/videos/comments/rbxgst/how_wrong_is_veritasium_a_lamp_and_power_line/	[ "I KNEW it! Thanks Mehdi!", "Seems that Dirk is getting torn apart from a few angles on a few subjects!", "I find ElectroBoom far more informative and engaging than Veritasium.", "I am an Electrical Engineer and these 'basics' were always confusing to me. Seeing all these professors and educators struggle to explain it makes me feel quite a bit better.", "I really disliked the trick question in the Veritasium video. It was extremly misleading.\n\nDerek's original video was right that technically the energy is transmitted by the field rather than inside the wire:\n\n>As another example, we ask what happens in a piece of resistance wire when it is carrying a current. Since the wire has resistance, there is an electric field along it, driving the current. Because there is a potential drop along the wire, there is also an electric field just outside the wire, parallel to the surface. (See Fig. 27–5.) There is, in addition, a magnetic field which goes around the wire because of the current. The E and B are at right angles; therefore there is a Poynting vector directed radially inward, as shown in the figure. There is a flow of energy into the wire all around. It is, of course, equal to the energy being lost in the wire in the form of heat. So our “crazy” theory says that the electrons are getting their energy to generate heat because of the energy flowing into the wire from the field outside. Intuition would seem to tell us that the electrons get their energy from being pushed along the wire, so the energy should be flowing down (or up) along the wire. But the theory says that the electrons are really being pushed by an electric field, which has come from some charges very far away, and that the electrons get their energy for generating heat from these fields. The energy somehow flows from the distant charges into a wide area of space and then inward to the wire.\n>\n>[...]\n>\n>You no doubt begin to get the impression that the Poynting theory at least partially violates your intuition as to where energy is located in an electromagnetic field. You might believe that you must revamp all your intuitions, and, therefore have a lot of things to study here. But it seems really not necessary. You don’t need to feel that you will be in great trouble if you forget once in a while that the energy in a wire is flowing into the wire from the outside, rather than along the wire. It seems to be only rarely of value, when using the idea of energy conservation, to notice in detail what path the energy is taking. The circulation of energy around a magnet and a charge seems, in most circumstances, to be quite unimportant. It is not a vital detail, but it is clear that our ordinary intuitions are quite wrong.\n\n[Richard Feynman, Feynman lectures on Physics, Chapter 27 Field Energy and Field Momentum](https://www.feynmanlectures.caltech.edu/II_27.html)", "Veritasium rubs me the wrong way and I honestly don't know why.", "I always get the impression he doesn't fully understand the subjects he discusses, like he's setting himself up as an authority on a topic after reading a Wikipedia article.", "That $10k bet with the physicist broke me. \n\nThat was when Veritasium lost all credibility. \n\nLately it seems Derek moved away from \"science curiousity\" and moved into some overcompensating demand for legitimacy.\n\nI'm just curious to see with people finally calling out Derek how weird this will all get. Derek is desperately clawing for something.", "I love both of these channels but I love Mehdi's eyebrows more than Derek's eyebrows.\n\nSorry Derek!", "When he short circuited it- his face!", "I find ActiveFrontEnd's commentary posts much better than iamamuttonheads.", "Not to mention he is now selling what credibility he managed to accrue over the years", "During my physics undergraduate we touched on the question: \"Are the particles 'real' or are the fields 'real'\", and the truth is that a good physicist picks whichever model makes the math easiest.", "He kinda mislead a little bit why the light was turning on at that speed. I think... Causality was not violated like he made it sound. I think... Maybe he didnt explain pefectly clear but it seamed he left out important clarifications or maybe he didn't fully understand or maybe i just didnt. I tried to watch other videos after because it was a cool misconception i had, but i just felt more confused after watching this.\n\nThere wasnt much clear on this subject out there but i came across electroboom searching and he was hilarious. I never got clarity so im looking forward to watching this later.", "I'm really impressed with this video, it's far and away the clearest explanation of every part of the problem. It had modeling, and real life demos with AC, and even a great \"technically true\" answer that the lightbulb would be \"on\" all the time.\n\nIf someone's going to make up weird situations with no resistance and \"on\" being \"any current\", then it makes sense to follow all those assumptions through to their actual conclusion (as opposed to just stopping when you get the answer you wanted).", "Privileged?", "> That $10k bet with the physicist broke me. \n\nWas that the wind powered vehicle that can move faster than the wind currents or something else?", "That's the very one. Ya.", "\"...here I tried to model 40 kilometers of wires round trip...\"\n\nI love it.", "I thought that one turned out to be legit. Was it debunked? I remember some explanation about it being similar to how sail boats tack the wind, but on a cylinder.", "What was wrong with the bet video?", "Also the video's have lots and lots of padding to stretch the runtime", "Honestly, I don't know. Lol that's part of why I have so much difficulty with it. \n\nA. They didn't test for other variables like how level was the course they ran the test on. \n\nB. Him and the other youtuber he was working with were using treadmills to test the viability of the propellor cars. Put the car on the treadmill and the propellor car moves forward relative to the treadmill. Which was utter bunk. The treadmill is turning the tires, adding energy to the system which powers the propellar and moves the car forward. Nothing to do with windspeed. \n\nI think the experiment has been done twice. Once with the original, once with Derrek's. There hasn't been enough reproducability to push the possibility in Derrek's favor. And those preceding treadmill vids raise more doubts. \n\nMaybe propellar cars can go faster than windspeed. Maybe. But those videos provide zero evidence that there is a possibility. \n\nDerrek has set aside the criteria for experimentation and, in my mind, stolen money from a practicing physicist, maybe. Possibly. Perhaps. Dunno, could be screaming meemies and greebles, but he hasn't convinced me.", "That was the hole in the bet. The bet was the phycisist couldn't specifically disprove the hypothesis that propellor cars can go faster than windspeed. That gave Derrek two options for winning:\n\n1. Derrek proves Pcars go faster than wind\n2. The physicist cannot specifically disprove the hypothesis\n3. The physicist debunks the experiment. \n\nThe first two results go to Derrek. \nThe last one goes to the physicist. \n\nThe burden of proof was put on the wrong party. As Derrek was asserting the hypothesis, it should have fell on him to prove it. Not the other way around. And there are, once again, possibly other contributing factors that Derrek didn't test for.\n\nJust to add: how level was the surface he ran the test on. And how much of the cars speed could be attributed to momentum instead of any additional force from the angular momentum of the propellor blades. \n\nGet us a hundred yard, verified level windtunnel that will fit a propellor car. If you can reliably verify and reproduce the results in an environment where you can control windspeed, surface, and measurement, then maybe you got a successful result.", "I think what you've witnessed is a shift in priorities from science entertainment to science outreach.\n\nBasically it seems like Veritasium recognized the potential they have to reach a lot of people and get them excited about science because of their success and decided generating excitement about STEM was a more important (and/or profitable) goal than being super methodical.", "Right. But possibly scamming a prof out of $10k was beyond the pale.", "Your impression is valid, but he does have a PhD in ~~physics and~~ physics education. I'd consider him sufficiently knowledgeable.\n\nThe problem is he's been really blurring the line between advertisement and education. He's always doing his videos on subjects related to the sponsor, it doesn't seem remotely neutral, and it's a major hit to his credibility. It's disappointing, i like his videos a lot but I've lost a lot of respect for him as a source of authority.", "Seemed more like a publicity stunt than a scam and anyone willing to publicly enter into a $10k to charity bet isn't likely to care about loosing it.", "If it was just waymo video was the problem, you could say, it was a one time mistake or something. Problem is, for last few months, his videos getting worse and worse and some of them dangerously misinformative and manipulative sometimes. \n\nIf i need to guess for the reason, he is pushing videos every few days and he stopped researching them like before.", "> That was when Veritasium lost all credibility. \n\nOk, why?\n\n> Honestly, I don't know\n\nThen maybe shouldn't have been so confident then?\n\nHe conceded not because of the experiment, but because the math supports Derek.", "That video was the turning point for Verisatium, i think. After that one, his videos get worse and worse.", "Tycho also has a much shorter [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jJB8dyOJIw) that explains pretty well why Veritasium was wrong.", "Step 1: State your assumptions.", "Veritasium and SmarterEveryDay have both gone sour. Derek asserting absolutes when there's doubts. Dustin trying to guess the answer before the interviewee even speaks. I really wanted to enjoy those submarine videos, but there's Dustin, asking a question then jumping in with a guess and talking over the naval guys. Just so bad. Both channels need a reset.", "interesante", "I like how we can't have a video of someone disagreeing with someone without it devolving into reddit questioning their public image. \n\nYou are not the problem with this comments. \n\nIt's your opinion fair enough. It's kind of offtopic but fair enough. The problem is that this is the top comment when this is not what the video is about. This is what redditors expect the discussion being about so they upvoted you", "i watched the original and the replies and i still have no idea what is true. can i get an ELI5 somewhere?", ">The bet was the phycisist couldn't specifically disprove the hypothesis that propellor cars can go faster than windspeed.\n\nSo the practicing physicist bet on proving a negative? That's a pretty big oversight on his part. Not defending anyone, but thats a big oversight.", "Veritaserum was right. And the physicist was convinced enough to pay the money. But they didn't do enough convincing for Allan here. So in his eyes Veritaserum lost ALL credibility", "Here's the propellor car experiment I would like to see:\n\nPut the propellor car on a stand in a wind tunnel with a calibrated fan. Create a wind strong enough to activate the propellor, then test the wheel speed. That should take out any other possible influences, surface level/imperfections, momentum, et al. \n\nNo treadmills!!\n\nIf you can verify windspeed and get scientifically significant higher revolutions in the wheel, then maybe the hypothesis can be proven. Even if the cause can't quite be explained.\n\nBut I work call center. A real physics person should pick apart my idea. Lol", "Vertasium is great, but that video was so frustrating. It felt like when a teacher says something counter-intuitive and then refuses to elaborate or answer any questions.", "Same here. He always comes across as trying to be a little too “clever” in his presentations. Like, “here’s this phenomenon, it’s just sooooooo counter intuitive!” A lot of YouTube science channels do this, and I find it kind of grating.", "The other problem with some of his recent content is that he's self-admittedly trying to make viral videos. When he's planning out a video I don't trust him to not base his decisions over what sounds best instead of what's most accurate.", "Not experimentally proving a hypothesis that seemingly breaks the law of conservation of energy is the oversight.", "You're very fastidious, my friend. Now that you mention it. I can see the difference between them.", "Example? I haven't been watching as many of his when there are so many fantastic channels to choose from.", "Examples of what? Him admitting that he's trying to make viral videos or him basing his decisions on what sounds best? You can find his videos on the first easily enough by going through his channel. I think the first one is one of his most popular. I don't have any examples off the top of my head for the second. The problem I have is less \"I've noticed a lot of examples of him doing this\" and more \"I no longer believe his prime motivation is to educate me.\"", "The lamp can't really turn on from the tiny amount of current induced in the wires connected to the lamp by the e/m field that's caused 1/c seconds after the current that starts flowing when the switch is flipped. \nBut Veritasium covered that by saying that the lamp turns on as soon as a current starts flowing through the lamp. \nLess misleading would have been to say that the lamp turns on as soon as any amount of current (no matter how small) starts flowing through the lamp. Only then is 1/c the correct answer (and as Electroboom pointed out, only if you ignore the tiny amount of leak current that will flow while the switch is not closed - which would cause this special lamp to always be on).", "Yeah, i hadn't heard him admitting it. I saw the video discussed in OPs link and didn't recall him saying it but I may have missed it. We're on the same page, I agree with everything you're saying. Dude sold away all his credibility.", "I'm expecting the technique of \"intentionally putting flaws in science videos to boost comment engagement and rebuttal videos\" to become an even more popular trend going forward.", "The treadmill is effectively the same as a wind tunnel in this case. In your wind tunnel, the air moves at a constant speed while the ground remains motionless. On a treadmill, the air stays motionless while the ground moves at a constant speed. From the reference frame of the car they are exactly the same thing.", "\\eyebrow", "You're worried about the UCLA professor who makes $200k/year with $266k/year in total comp and benefits?\n\nhttps://transparentcalifornia.com/salaries/search/?q=Alexander+Kusenko", "Yeah but Veritasium is cuter.", "\"No resistance\" is totally fine in this case. It's entirely within the allowable laws of physics to have superconducting wires with zero resistance. This could exist in the real world, if it were not for the insane cost and engineering challenges of building it.\n\nAny current=full brightness is really where things get misleading. I don't think the Veritasium video even mentions that the current starts very small and increases over time. He misleads the viewer into assuming the system is at a steady state when the light is \"on\".\n\nI've enjoyed many of Vertasiums videos on counter-intuitive physics, but I don't like the direction he went with this one. Poynting vectors are an interesting concept already, he didn't need to try and mislead the viewer to make it seem more sensational.", "Lmao I’m a physics undergrad at UCLA which is where the professor in the video has tenure and does his research. If you ask him about that video he’ll just be like “I still think I’m right.”\n\nAlso, don’t worry if he was scammed by Veritasium. The professor also admits that he did indeed win the bet and our physics professors make upward of $200k per year so he’s not hurting for money.", "Been waiting for this, why am I seeing it here before YouTube, come on youtube!", "It truly bothers me how terribly little we know. We know practically nothing about electricity, other than _how_ to make use of it.", "He is super smart and talks to super smart people, but he tackles EXTREMELY complex subjects that are already the subject of debate. I don't know how much better he could do in his position but I think this recent electricity video was not presented well enough to make such a bold claim. I hope he makes a part 2", "I can handle some Derek criticism, but I _loved_ the entire conversation around that $10K bet. And as someone else mentioned, he was correct in that video. If we're going to pick on any of his content, I think there are better examples.", "That's just not true", "I mean.. we are literally having a debate about it right now.", "If by \"we\" in your original post you meant the Redditors in this thread, then yes sure. Scientists understand quite a lot about electricity.", "Similar to [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFqn3uy238E) Kurzgesagt video's topic, many internet educators cut a lot of corners on knowledge to fit it into a 10 minute video. There is a lot of stuff assumed, a lot of corners cut, because it's simply not possible to include everything in one video. This, rightfully, makes many experts on the topic very frustrated, because they know how many corners have been cut, and recognize it. There is no way to please everyone. The attempt isn't to give them an end to knowledge or be a reliable source, it's to spark curiosity and give a hint of what more interesting stuff there is out there to learn.", "I'm talking about the literal debate that we are both commenting on right now", "Between Veritasium's and Electroboom's videos, I feel like my intuition about electricity has improved 100%. It was black magic fuckery to me before that Tesla designed AC circuits with the physics of electricity being so new at the time. Now that I see oscillating behavior in the initial states of a closed DC circuit, and you can model the complex movement of energy as electrical components in a circuit, AC seems like a natural progression for power delivery.", "We are not debating the properties of electricity but the modeling of it. Veritasium's video highlights the gap in intuition people may have in thinking about one model of electricity. On the other hand, if you are trying to fit in QM over a transmission line, you are going to have a bad time. As far as we can know anything, we know what electricity is; the problem is that it's not a concept that is intuitive and requires years of expert training to fully grasp. Hence the models and arguments about them.", "We understand electric fields remarkably well.", "It's not a debate. The question of what is \"real\" is meaningless. You can pick either model and both are accurate", "Real is not meaningless. I understand your model helps you predict an outcome but it does not definitively prove or explain reality. This is not hard to understand", "We understand how to measure and make use of them", "So is there a \"model\" that accurately reflects reality and not just abstract mathematical concepts. I understand they may not be intuitive but I am looking for real answers, not just statistical guesses", "It's two different audiences, so once you're interested or educated in a relevant topic, it's not surprising to prefer one over the other.", "I’m gonna ask you because you sound smart.\n\nHow far away are these “magic” fields applicable? If it’s true that the electricity radiates from the battery to the bulb 1m away in 1/c even if its just a tiny amount like this video shows, surely there is a limit? Does that mean they could be on opposite sides of the universe and it would take longer but still somehow find each other? A mile apart? I’m also assuming the original video and all these responses are doing this in a vacuum, does air have anything to do with it?", "Your concept of real is philosophical and may be meaningless because we can not prove it is real, we can only disprove by showing it predicts the outcome wrong. We cannot press f12 in reality.", "You shouldn't view the videos as anything more than an interesting look into whatever topic he's talking about. You really can't expect to get every piece of information possible out each topic (or even him to know it all) especially when so many of them rely on information from someone that has spent years researching that exact topic.\n\nBasically I'm not sure what you expect. Of course he doesn't fully understand every subject. How could he? That's not even the point of his channel (or any channel like his).\n\nAlso if you haven't watched both videos then I suggest you do. The title is more jokey/clickbaity than reality.", "This is the third Veritasium that has caused controvery. first one, He turned out to be right with that wind powered car, but 2nd one wrong with the waymo vid.", "Well in that case the answer is simple. No. It's impossible to actually prove one model of reality is correct and the physics of electricity and chemistry and so forth really can only be \"accurately\" modeled by mathematical equations because whatever real process is going on is so abstract and unintuitive that it cannot be grasped by anyone. Sorry if that's not what you're looking for.", "Im fine with this answer, it means we don't yet fully understand, which is _exaclty_ what I said.", "We just haven't proved yet. We likely will one day but we lack the tools and understanding today to fully and accurately answer this question, and that is my entire point.", "Here's an example, I saw Veritasium's [light bulb video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5v8D-alAKE) a while ago which was quite misleading. The TLDW is basically, the light bulb cartel was bad because they purposefully engineered poorer light bulbs to sell more, but his video ends on a \"feel good\" note that now we have LEDs everything is fine.\n\nThis isn't true, LED bulbs are often poorly manufactured using cheap components that fail before the LEDs itself, or run the LEDs at a high current reducing efficiency and life of the LEDs. Similar to how the light bulb cartel used to operate. This is the same for both branded and cheaper Chinese bulbs. There are certainly better bulbs out there, eg, the \"[Dubai Lamp](https://hackaday.com/2021/01/17/leds-from-dubai-the-royal-lights-you-cant-buy/)\" from Philips which uses higher quality components and runs each LED at a lower current reducing heat, thereby increasing efficiency and lifespan, but these aren't the norm, and that specific product is only available in UAE.\n\nThere's some other good articles about the subject [here](https://hackaday.com/2019/02/05/what-happened-to-the-100000-hour-led-bulbs/) and [here](https://www.newyorker.com/business/currency/the-l-e-d-quandary-why-theres-no-such-thing-as-built-to-last) that were published well before his video was made. However explaining that LEDs aren't a simple solution and the issue is more complex would ruin the feel good note that Veritasium's video ended on.", "The math describes fields and movement of particles in those fields, as well as the feedback into itself. This is distinct from the statistics which describe any given state of electrons or the behavior of a particular circuit. When you get into the nitty gritty of it, reality is abstract at the level of electrons. What we conceive of reality and our intuition is not at all what is going on at that level. Therefore, one's concept of reality must be changed to really understand what is going on, or we must conceive approximate models which can meet our intuition. We do not have a complete understanding of the universe, one that bridges our understanding of the quantum world and the cosmological world. Therefore, any framework about reality is somewhat discrete, concerning what level of the universe you are dealing with. If you talk about things generally, as I have, you can approximate what the universe is* but then you get the worst explanation: one that lacks both applications and firm concepts. There are certain theories you can read up on like string theory which wraps up a lot of these concepts in fancy math but cannot/may not be proven. They describe the fabric of the universe being bound up in multi-dimensional, infinitesimally small strings, oscillating at various frequencies to bring about the macroscopic world. Again, we are basically putting a tiny blip of space time as a stand-in for some math so I don't think you'll find something as intuitive as magnets in your hand.", "You have yet to ask a meaningful question using your words that cannot be answered by our collective knowledge of electricity. The magnitude and polarity of a field is a solved problem. The potential energy of an electron is known. You are standing here claiming that you wish you could end this tragic debate, but you've only succeeded in staging an argument about whether or not we're arguing.", "> he does have a PhD in physics and physics education.\n\nNot in physics ,\"only\" in physics education. His thesis was \"[Designing Effective Multimedia for Physics Education](https://www.sydney.edu.au/science/physics/pdfs/research/super/PhD\$Muller\$.pdf)\", and before that he had a [Bachelor of Applied Science in Engineering Physics](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derek_Muller#Early_life_and_education).", "Derek Muller \n \n [Early life and education](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derek_Muller#Early_life_and_education) \n \n >Muller was born to South African parents in Traralgon, Victoria, Australia, and moved to Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada, when he was 18 months old. In 2000, Muller graduated from West Vancouver Secondary School. In 2004, Muller graduated from Queen's University in Kingston, Ontario, with a Bachelor of Applied Science in Engineering Physics. Muller moved to Australia to study film-making, but instead enrolled for a Ph.D. in physics education research from the University of Sydney, which he completed in 2008 with a thesis: Designing Effective Multimedia for Physics Education.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( \| )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( \| )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( \| )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove \| v1.5)", "The real takeaway is that from any point in the universe to any other point is an RLC network. Everything is a conductor to some degree and hence the whole universe is a single immensely complex circuit.", "“Is it a particle or a wave?”\n\n“Yes.”", "You can't \"prove\" something is \"real\". At the end of the day, you could be a brain in a jar, and this is all an elaborate perfect illusion that is being fed to you. \"Real\" is meaningless w.r.t. physics. The only thing that matters is if our models can make accurate predictions, and they can make extremely accurate predictions over an incrediblely large number of circumstances. Any experience you have ever had with the EM force can be accurately described and modeled. I don't believe you could come up with a scenario that physics cannot explain without searching the web for an appropriate question.", "How to produce them, how they are manifested, how to convert them from one field to another, how they interact with the weak and nuclear forces, how the fieods interact and the mechanism that allows the interaction. We know the elementary particles which manifest the electric fields, and their properties to multiple decimal places. And these are things I learned as an undergrad. There are people who know stuff about EM that I don't know I don't know. What burning questions do you have about the electromagnetism?", "LOL REDDIT MOMENT.\n\n&#x200B;\n\n\"I don't know\"\n\nffs you literally don't even know why you \\think\\ he lost credibility when he... was... CORRECT.\n\nMan I hate people.", "Veritaserum... is a potion in Harry Potter I think. Veritassium is what you're looking for.", "\"I still think I'm right... I just can't prove it or provide evidence as to why I'm right\"", "Actually we will literally never fully understand, and also, phenomena exist for which there is no analogy possible that would fit inside our ability to visualize and understand processes. As an example of this, imagine a point, then extend it into a line, then extend the line into a sheet, then extend the sheet into a cube, then extend that cube into the fourth dimension, then extend that tesseract into the fifth dimension, then extend that hypercube into the sixth dimension. You can't get past the 3d cube no matter how hard you try, because your brain simply cannot model 4d space. However, using math, it's actually pretty trivial to extend hypercubes into an infinite number of dimensions, and we can easily tell computers to do this, but even if we look at a projection of a 4d shape into 3d or 2d space, we still can't grasp it. What I'm trying to say here is, the classical mechanical world we live in is a total illusion and there is zero ability to translate quantum mechanical interactions into classical behavior without immediately losing aspects of the real world process. Since everything fundamentally is built from these quantum mechanical processes, that means that the classical world we see actually only works by approximation, and if you look at anything closely enough all the lines blur and all the solid things become hollow voids and all the simple forces exist due to complex and unknowable interactions between particles that are actually waves, except even the word wave is a flawed analogy for what those things are.", "Veritasium has the audacity to say that the educational system is lying to us. It reminds me of how people would say electron orbits were some great \"lie\" or how whenever science learns more and updates their models all the models that were the most accurate before were \"lies\". In the educational system they teach you what you are ready for. If they say electrons have strict orbit levels, it still reflects reality and fits the type of subject material early highschool students are ready for better than orbital fields with everything devolving into probability and tons of shapes to memorize. If a model reflects reality but not to the absolute closest precision, it's not a lie. There's a time and a place for learning what is the most minute of details in the models we have for the world. And unfortunately, veritasium's video is attempting to replace what he considers a lie based on being misleading with another lie because it's misleading, when both were true and frankly the previous was more applicable.\n\nI would forgive the \"gotcha\" if the video he made lead to an overall greater and more accurate view of electricity, something that added on to previous knowledge. The knowledge in his video is not the overhaul to the model he thinks it is, it's additional information.\n\nWhich is exactly why it was never a lie in the first place. If you can get to the most accurate model in steps of information building on the previous, it's not a lie to teach 1 step at a time.", "These types of creators are also really ambitious and end up trying to explain advanced, PhD level concepts to people who likely havent touched science since high school. Theres no way you can simplify some of these things that take like 10+ years of learning to understand unless you cut a lot of corners", "Wait, i am confused, in the video Derek says he won?", "Damn… between this and that atrocious autonomous car video, Veritasium’s really starting to swing and miss", "That’s not true at all. We know a lot about electricity and how it works.", "Derek was definitely right about that one. Sailboats travel downwind faster than wind all the time, this is just not widely known by the non-sailing public. There's absolutely no reason why the same physics can't be replicated on land. The physicist in that case had misunderstood the mechanics of the land vehicle.", "but what happens if you put the switch and light on opposite sides, but use the short sides, so there's 1 light second of wire separating the 2?", "The cow is a cylinder", "After seeing Steve Mold vs. Medhi, this too was immediately my thoughts. Derek is after that \"confrontation\" attention.", "/r/NotKenM", "No one can be an expert in everything. A science communicator tries their best to bridge the gap consulting experts and literature. For example, Hank Greene from SciShow is primarily a Biochemist by training. Yet he takes anything from evolution, engineering to space. Most of these people are smart enough to quickly pick up a topic different than what they studied in/researched but are by no means can become experts and most of them.including Derwk acknowledge that.\n\nDerek's real problem is how he is integrating adds into his videoa, disguising ads as content and tailoring videos to be more inflammatory to ride the youtube algorithm.", "Every time Electroboom pops up here I get Kooler Than Jesus in my head.\n\n*”I’M THE ELECTRIC MESSIAH…THE AC/DC GOD.”", "I started paying wayy closer attention when he did the \"gravity isn't real\" video. I was like, has he always been this way and I just didn't notice before?", "everything is frictionless", "> He's always doing his videos on subjects related to the sponsor\n\nThis is my issue as well. It feels like he gets hooked up with sponsors, then determines how he can turn their ad in to \"educational\" content, instead of educational content that happens to be sponsor friendly. I won't watch his videos any more for this reason. It's a waste of my time.", "Nah, it's worse than cutting corners. Sometimes these channels simply make incorrect or misleading statements. \n\nThe problem usually occurs when the channel creator attempts to be the lead script writer for complex topics in which he or she isn't an expert. Consulting other experts along the way doesn't seem to cover for it, especially when they try to get out at least two or more videos per month. \n\nVeritasium is usually pretty good, but Derek has stretched himself lately. He's leading the script writing when he probably should have let experts have more control. Other channels like PBS Space Time are often rock solid because the lead writer knows these fields well, but he has admitted blunders in his videos when he strayed beyond. Kurzgesagt unfortunately has a higher rate of mistakes and misleading statements, which is disappointing given that channel isn't even trying to cover things at a deeper level. \n\nWhat Mehdi has in his favor is he is an expert in his field, so he has a better sense how to avoid these mistakes and also when he's going outside his expertise. His vid about him failing to build his own vacuum was a great example of him knowing he can't engineer vacuums and the consequences of him trying it anyways.", "Not sure why you are getting downvoted - seems like a perfectly reasonable statement. I thought ActiveFrontEnd's comments on this were more interesting than mine.", "Whoa professor salaries are public record? Whoa TIL", "Reading through this I'll put it this way, we know practically nothing about electricity in the exact same way in which we know practically nothing about chairs.", "There is no limit but the strength of the field falls off by the inverse square law. Inverse square comes up in ElectroBOOM's video at \\~6:30. No matter the distance, assuming Veritasium's definition of \"ON\" being any current flow, the time in seconds would still be the separation in meters / c. They are talking about it in air but treating it like vacuum because the difference is negligible. I think Veritasium was using the approximate value 3\\10\\^8.", "This video is great! Derek's video had me walk away unconvinced and played at....it felt like a long reel or tiktok video than an actual science video. I'm a huge fan of Derek btw, no hate for him!", ">Kurzgesagt unfortunately has a higher rate of mistakes and misleading statements\n\nYea, I'm gonna have to disagree. They reference experts and studies and link it in the description. I'm not sure if you even watched the video I linked, but they straight up say they technically 'lie' in their videos to dumb down complex topics. Of course this is going to mean information that is not exactly correct, but that's not the point. The point is to give a basis of understanding so you get interested in diving deeper into the topics you find most interesting. Again, these are not meant to be videos as a source of information to cite, they are 10 minute videos for crying out loud. They are very basic summaries of complex information.", "The problem with the video is that it contains misdirections. He is saying that you can measure a small change in the light bulb, based on local effects of electricity running through wires that are close together.\n\nThe misdirection is that at a certain point is doesn't really matter how long the wires are, or even that they connection. The wires could be disconnected and the same result would occur, because there is no effect that travels the length of the wire.\n\nIt's all just a trick so he can say something counter-intuitive so he can drive clicks.", "The prof paid up, admitting that Derek was right.", "The cow is a sphere on a plane at a 30 deg angle on a friction-less plane at rest, with standard gravity acting on it.", "The most misleading thing about Veritasium's video is that the wires don't actually do anything in his setup. If you just popped a battery into existence near a lightbulb, with absolutely no wires at all, and not even a distant connection between the battery and the bulb, the lightbulb would still \"turn on\" (using his definition). He could have made the same point.", "Led bulb in a socket never turns off. There is current leakage. Replace or rewire the switch?", "I'm a woman of simple tastes. I see ElectroBOOM I click.", "To me he's crawled so far up his own ass he's in danger of becoming a singularity. He has the same vibe as NdT - smart people who think they're way, way smarter than they actually are.", "> caused 1/c seconds\n\nThis right here is the first sign of obvious horse shit because '1/c' does not have the unit of seconds. \n\n(Seconds per meter) seconds is so obviously wrong that it's better to just walk away from whatever he is saying.", "The 1 is actually 1m, not dimensionless. The answer is not well stated, among other issues.", "I've had a problem with Kurzgesagt for quite a while. It just doesn't sit right with me at all.", "in one of his videos he mentioned that mrbeast essentially taught him how to clickbait and things have gone downhill since", "> How far away are these “magic” fields applicable?\n\nThe thing is ... there is nothing magic about it, it's a phenomenon that you are familiar with, you just haven't thought about it this way, and Derek's video just presents it all as unnecessarily mysterious.\n\nWhat he is talking about is simply radio waves. The stuff that you presumably use all the time for WiFi, mobile data, Bluetooth, AM/FM radio, what have you.\n\nEvery change in current creates radio waves, which is used in radio applications by essentially changing the direction of current flow in a wire (the transmitting antenna) hundreds of thousands to billions or times per second, and radio waves then create current in any other wires, among them those used as receiving antennas, which you then can decode to receive transmitted information.\n\nIn principle, the same thing happens every time you press a light switch: You get a pulse of a radio wave, which you can receive with a second antenna and with appropriate circuitry you could then use that signal to switch on a lamp ... or, if the wave is strong enough, you could even use the energy from the wave to light the lamp for a moment.\n\nAnd if you make the antennas huge, you can make the pulse longer, and if you connect the antennas at their ends, you can keep the light on forever because that'll cause the current through the wire to take over once the radio wave pulse is over.", "isn't this just a simplification to make explaining the concept of fields easier\n\nlike how physics questions say assume an elephant is a frictionless sphere in a vacuum", "I think it's always going to be a bit of a conundrum trying to visualize mathematics and physical phenomena that we literally can't even experience. I appreciate what Derek was trying to teach, but Electroboom also brings a very important electrical engineering perspective. Though there's so many complexities to a problem like this, finding the \"true\" answer would mean completely understanding all physics involved... which we don't really, hence the assumptions and approximations. Still cool to think about though.", "I generally don't like Veritasiums explaintions.", "Yeah me too.", "In every one of these videos, nobody mentions the material the wire is made from. Even if you assume the wire is super-sophisticated ultra-hyper-conductive, the wave function will still only propagate at a percentage of the speed of light and NOT the speed of light.", "I feel like his recent video about clickbait actually \"exposes\" himself for want of a better word. It shows that he is actively aware of and concerned by his viewer numbers, and is also aware of how a \"cool\" topic generates more activity than just a simple video explaining a concept.\n\nI don't think there's anything wrong with chasing views on YouTube, but I don't think that you can ever make the best education content possible whilst doing so.", "He didn't get into it, what _would_ happen if the lines were giant circles?", "It's just numbers, if you try to visualize or imagine it perfectly you will fail", "I think that at the core of what Derek was trying to say was \"how long until a current can (theoretically) be detected at this point in the wire?\" The lightbulb simply ends up being a \"familiar\" mechanism for measuring existence of current. All the deep dive of \"well light-bulbs don't work like this\" are a detour of the point he was trying to make, which admittedly is due to his use of a lightbulb in his analogy.", "I concur. It feels to me like he is leaning more into the sensational than the educational nowadays. Got to chase those views I guess.", "Rules of thumb for educational youtube channel, the more general the content is, the more you should take the content with a grain of salt. For example Veritasium, Wendover, Kurz vs PBS space time, Electroboom, 3blue1brown.", "Found the incandescent lightbulb salesman!", "It's that and not the \n\n## *\"FULL BRIDGE RECTIFIER!\"* ?", "So is it correct to say because of his black box of trickery, light would still turn on after 1/c even if it was a separate circuit from that battery? In other words, the em field from the “battery circuit” would still induce the tiny current on the “lamp circuit” to turn it on?", "Its also kind of complicated to discuss this topic because the light bulb manufacturers DID conspire to fix the prices and quality initially. \n\nIn reality though, its not even necessary because of advanced manufacturing capabilities and technology improvements that happened over the years that made that cartel useless and classic supply/demand metrics favoring cheap products anyway.", "> obvious horse shit because '1/c' does not have the unit of seconds. \n\nFrom the context of Veritasium's video it is clear that \"1\" is 1 meter (the distance between the wires). So 1m/(m/s) = seconds.", "yes", "OMG that was so clean, clear, and perfect. Thanks for sharing.", "Thanks. That was the confusing bit from Veritasium video.", "> How far away are these “magic” fields applicable? \n\nAn e/m field never disappears, it just becomes very weak (declining in strength with 1/distance squared). How far away it is detectable in practice depends on the strength of the transmitted signal, and on background- and receiver noise. \n\nRadio is an e/m field and is used to communicate with the Voyager space probes which are now at a distance of about 17 and 21 light-hours respectively. https://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/status/ \n\nLight is also an e/m field and light from the edge of the observable universe (redshifted into radio due to cosmic expansion) has taken some 13 billion years to reach us. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_microwave_background \n\nBoth of those examples require a large antenna and sensitive equipment to be detected. \n\n> does air have anything to do with it? \n\nAir absorbs e/m fields to some degree depending on the wavelength. \nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absorption_%28electromagnetic_radiation%29#/media/File:Atmospheric_electromagnetic_opacity.svg", "[Cosmic microwave background](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_microwave_background) \n \n >The cosmic microwave background (CMB, CMBR), in Big Bang cosmology, is electromagnetic radiation which is a remnant from an early stage of the universe, also known as \"relic radiation\". The CMB is faint cosmic background radiation filling all space. It is an important source of data on the early universe because it is the oldest electromagnetic radiation in the universe, dating to the epoch of recombination. With a traditional optical telescope, the space between stars and galaxies (the background) is completely dark.\n \n[Absorption (electromagnetic radiation)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absorption_\$electromagnetic_radiation\$#/media/File:Atmospheric_electromagnetic_opacity.svg) \n \n >In physics, absorption of electromagnetic radiation is how matter (typically electrons bound in atoms) takes up a photon's energy — and so transforms electromagnetic energy into internal energy of the absorber (for example, thermal energy). A notable effect is attenuation, or the gradual reduction of the intensity of light waves as they propagate through a medium. Although the absorption of waves does not usually depend on their intensity (linear absorption), in certain conditions (optics) the medium's transparency changes by a factor that varies as a function of wave intensity, and saturable absorption (or nonlinear absorption) occurs.\n \n^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( \| )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( \| )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/videos/about/banned)^( \| )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove \| v1.5)", "Yes but what needs to be assumed was not clearly stated.", "I unsubbed from him a while back, I think it was either for his self driving car video or one sponsored by the Gates foundation\n\nJust were not good videos", "I don't watch the guy but from the OPs video it seems to me that he is using more extreme language than really is applicable. He wants to tell people that they've been \"lied to\" when really they were given reasonable analogies to tackle complex subjects.", "This is true but if you're going to make claims that people have been \"lied to\" during their science education, you really should make sure it was a real lie and not simply an analogy that are used across physics to explain complex topics.", "I love how salty he is about being tricked", "This is the silliest goose response lmao", "Yeah people seem confused here.. these videos aren't dissertations, nor are they meant to be used as academic sources or academia level teaching tools, they're designed for a younger or ignorant audience on a topic to get the barebones covered so people can go \"oh that's cool\".\n\nI'm not sitting down to watch a five hour university level physics class on how nuclear fission works. I'll watch a ten minute fun video about how a nuke works though.", "that reminds me of chemistry. You go through a chapter about all these rules for a column then they throw in a hand full of exceptions. There aren't that many elements, if you need that many exceptions to a rule maybe it isn't a good rule.", "> PBS Space Time\n\nDon't forget about Eons. Mmmm, good stuff.", "To pharaphrase Jack Nicholson in 'The departed',\n\n\"Are the particles 'real' or are the fields 'real'?, when you can't make the maths work for either whats the difference?\"", "That's what annoys me too. The conclusion of the video is counterintuitive, not because people's intuition is wrong, but because Derek is talking about something completely different from what people think he is talking about, because the video is purposefully misleading.", "The real question should be: if I have a 2 volts battery, how long would take to the lamp to also have 2 volts after I close the switch?\n\nBut by saying that any voltage/current on the lamp would cause it to turn on, he basically tricks you on thinking its the same problem of the first question, which is not. So there isnt any counter intuitive phenomenon happening.\n\nBesides that, if any current would make the lamp stay on, you dont even need to flip any switch, it would just stay on after the battery with long wires comes into existance, lol.", "It should definitely happen especially with people as famous as him. You have too many large YouTubers making videos on topics they don't understand or researched in 5 minutes. For example cgp gray making a video on solving traffic problems wtf how does he know shit about fuck on that subject.", "Exactly. The \"lie\" Derek references is useful in understanding how electricity behaves under most circumstances.\n\nIf you are a layperson thinking you understand what turns a lightbulb on and watch Veritasiums video you'll walk out with an understanding that applies less to the real world than what you had before. If you understand all the details and gotchas of the video, you don't need the explanation anyways.", "NDT is in a galaxy of his own in that sense", "Yeah, honestly all this discussion between all of the various educational youtubers has helped me understand electricity beyond what the classroom taught me.", "Yeah, when physicists say \"assume the cow is spherical\" they aren't lying to people that cows are actually spherical.", "It's fine that people go \"oh that's cool\". But the problem is that if you asked laypeople to summarize what they learned about electricity from that video they probably learned more that's wrong than what's true, because they didn't catch all the gotchas and small details that are needed to understand what he is actually claiming.\n\nYou have to be very careful when simplifying complex topics because it's easy to cause misconceptions. And this video seems confusing on purpose to make it seem more \"mind-blowing\". The thought experiment is very convoluted on purpose and has some assumptions that are very difficult to relate to. He could have described two antennas instead and asked how long it took for the signal to get from one to the other and most people would intuitively get the right answer. He could then explain that all wires behave like antennas and it would be much easier to understand what it means because it's relatable and people would leave the video with knowledge they can apply to the real world.", "The Waymo one was definitely selling out, but that's just only one clear example of deliberately being misleading.\n\nI wouldn't call the recent ones selling out, at least not directly but getting lazier.", "Cringed hard when the 2 tv scientist were broght in. You could see Niel deGrass full scientific potential.", "When you get to more complex chemistry levels they say \"remember that rule? It's not a rule, here's what's really happening\" and then the exceptions make sense. The simplification results in rules that tell you roughly \"how this works\" not \"why this works\"", "Another example of Veritasium being wrong came up here a couple weeks ago. They had this fascinating video about an \"impossible\" to ride bike. I was blown away... until I just tested their theory. It was wrong. Just being mildly careful and deliberate, you absolutely can turn your bike using just direct steering input and appropriate balance.", "Everything is a cow.", "The cylinder cow is frictionless and lactose free.", "Why do electromagnetic waves in a vacuum travel at the speed they do, rather than a different speed? ;)", "His teeth are unnaturally white, causing an uncanny valley effect.", "He changed the title to Veritasium is right after the Electroboom video", "Wow", "Yup that one really bothered me", "Best answer", "As Electroboom points out, most of his \"question\" videos are trick questions. He sets up an improbably scenario with a condition intentionally made to confound conventional understanding of the subject. So if you are familiar with his videos, you go in expecting the trick. And usually you can spot the trick. But its difficult to determine the correct answer because the way you have been trained to examine the subject is contrary to this improbably condition. If you take it as a thought experiment, it can be enjoyable. But for people who don't expect that it is a trick, they get frustrated because of the \"gotcha\" condition. And part of the problem is that Derek doesn't acknowledge that the \"trick\" in his question is a trick, and instead posses the answer as the obvious answer that you were too uneducated to know. In this case, it was that the light turns on at any current, instead of a realistic scenario where the light has a voltage/current requirement below the field current that is technically switching this improbably light on. His videos also rub me the wrong way, because of that presentation.", "Yup, he was wrong, I initially had the same view as him, that Veritassium violated causality, but he \"cheated\" with the \"any current turns on the light\".", ">If you asked laypeople to summarize what they learned about electricity from that video\n\nThey'll tell you \"I don't know, wasn't really paying attention\"", "To answer your question, yes, we have accurate models of electricity, they're just applicable at different scales. Someone designing a bleeding edge lithographic process will use quantum physical models to represent what electricity is doing. The problem is that electricity is a side effect of movement and potential, so we model the movement accurately and then infer the results from that movement and the interactions with potentials.\n\nReality doesn't follow hard fast rules like we want it to, sometimes an electron will just decide to move to the other side of an atom even though our simplified models would say that's impossible... quantum physics has models that represent that it's not impossible at all... we simplify the process by representing this as a simple probability rather than modeling the internal quantum states of the atoms in question even though we know what's going on because there's little benefit in modeling how one electron tunnels through an insulator when you are only interested in what happens when you push 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 electrons per second through the conductor adjacent to the insulator.", "You're trying to do some first year philosophy student bullshit thinking you're Socrates trying to \"get\" people with philosophical gotchas when we're having a discussion about scientific models far beyond the realm of philosophy.", "I actually think that is the new youtube meta. All the videos mentioned, plus the linus tech tip linux videos all seem to have an air of \"Here is some info, make a video to fight me on it\". \n\nI think there are actually a couple things at play here causing this meta shift.\n\nFirst, collaborations boost engagement by broadening the net you are casting. People that are subscribed to only one of the channels, will get introduced to a second similar channel. Plus, it's basically free content. Each channel puts up like 3/4 of a video, and people end up watching both. The channels get to swap clips and have to shoot lees of their own video.\n\nSecond, there is no such thing as negative engagement. Disliking a video seems to count just as much as liking a video to the algorithm. If you click on some random video, watch the whole thing, and dislike it; it will still show you videos from that channel in your feed, if not more of their videos. Plus, people are more easily convinced to dislike something than they are to like something. How many videos do you actually like where you click like, as opposed to videos you actually clicked dislike. \n\nSo there is definitely an upswing in this sort of thing. It sort of writes itself, you make a large claim that is sort of wishy washy on whether it's true or not. A ton of other channels will weigh in on it, linking and showing clips of your video for you, which boosts engagement to your channel. The controversial claims will drive tons of likes and dislikes, which are basically the same thing, which also boosts engagement. If you can stretch it into a multi-video back and forth, all the better, you git to ride that train for a while.", "Thank you for a real response.", "I'm sure you're right. Fuck this algorithm-gaming shit. It annoys me so much.\n\nWhat do YOU think? Please let me know in the comments below, as if I actually cared, not at all because it's a trick to make my video more popular on the big ol' Youtubes. Which is really the only real alternative for videos on the internet", "I'm glad he made this video, my brain was hurting after watching the Veritasium one. It didn't make sense.", "Because if it was different, you wouldn't be here to ask the question.", "Yeah, that Veritasium video was mostly BS", "I'll show what I think. Do it again and I'm unsubscribing.", " GOOD!", "well, if you want to play the \"why\" game, then we don't know anything - but if you accept Maxwell's equations as true (which they have held up to all experimental testing) then the speed of light can be derived from those equations, which shows the speed of light is 'c' irrespective of frame of reference:\n\n&#x200B;\n\nhttps://www.wikihow.com/Derive-the-Speed-of-Light-from-Maxwell%27s-Equations", "These videos are awesome - I don't see the need to pick one over the other as being \"better\". They both raised my (limited) understanding of how electricity works. Very cool! Love em both.", "Great video, but I had to turn on the closed captions. I'm not sure if Tycho has a speech impediment, but it's difficult to understand what's he's saying. Many YouTubers mumble their words in some capacity, which makes their point harder to understand, unfortunately.", "If even a tiny amount of current will turn on that light bulb, then the wires are superfluous, the unconnected terminals on the battery would be still generating a microfield at all times enough to power that magic light bulb.", "Ya, this is it. \n\nIt's much more than just simplifying or cutting corners. Non-experts attempting to teach complex topics with pinpoint accuracy has a higher rate of being misleading or wrong. In Derek's case, he discussed the topic often with a conference call of professors who know the topic and really dove into it. But Derek still made a bad video on it because he doesn't have a good understanding of it himself. There was a point in Derek's video call where both sides felt they knew the problem, they all agreed \"we are all correct on this problem and you will get pushback\", but the professors didn't know how Derek was going to present it. \n\nI'm not that upset at Derek for it. Teaching is hard. Teaching and writing a textbook/script perfectly is almost impossible. I mean, Donald Knuth was a CS expert and he developed a tradition where thousands of people pointed out his mistakes: [Knuth_reward_check](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knuth_reward_check). Where I get frustrated is channels that focus more on animation and production, don't get into the science deeply, and make routine errors.", "Youtubers purposefully making false statements to drive engagement and thus income. Youtube is a Very Bad source of reliable scientific information (shocked pikachu).", "[Tom Nicholas](https://youtu.be/CM0aohBfUTc) explains why.", "It would take one second in theoretical land, but be even more absurd - across a metre there is a feasible amount of induced current even with the inverse square. Across a light second that would be meaningless - the bulb would have far more current induced from cosmic rays than the power source at that point.", "I thought his recent video on genomic privacy was interesting, but incredibly one-sided. Maybe that was a condition placed on him in order to get access to the companies doing this stuff and he did the best he could, but it was disappointing that he spent a claimed 2 years on this project, and didn't manage to find or include any genomic privacy experts in the video.\n\nIt's a bit like someone doing a story on the impact drilling oil has to our environment, and only interviewing Exxon execs and a car manufacturer.", "Case in point: even the vacuum has an impedance.", "But making contradicting statements isn't helping. He has multiple videos that transport 'half truths' and it's discrediting him heavily in my book, to the point where I doubt he understands the fundamentals.", "I can recommend the addon 'channel blocker'.", "> Eons\n\nYup. If you haven't seen it, check out Sabine Hossenfelder. She has this knack of saying \"Here it is simplified. Also, here is a fundamental assumption most of the world glosses over when they talk about this topic, and this assumption is critical to having a better understanding.\" She definitely doesn't shy away from calling people wrong or engaging in frivilous research paths.", "Yeah, but the Vertasium couldn't be more misleading the way he presented it.", "Still requires the answer to be (1m/c s) + (Xm/c s) where X is the distance from switch to battery, otherwise the switch itself is irrelevant and the question can't be asked because the light is \"on\" before the switch turns.", "I originally didn't want to leave that comment, as I felt it was in bad form, and essentially an open invitation to the public to air their grievances towards someone who wasn't being being malicious.\n\nHowever, in this case I felt the nature of the collective grievances warranted being given a potential outlet in spite of that. So I said it anyway, hoping people just wouldn't be too mean if it got upvoted a lot.\n\nPoint being, I agree with you and get where you're coming from. Luckily the discussion here was good, but all too often it will devolve into petty personal attacks.", "It's the sexy caterpillar eyebrows and he's adorable when he zaps himself. Makes me want to shine my leather boots.", "I'm guessing he's making a follow up video as we speak. Or at least I'm hoping so.", "It's the \"downwind faster than the wind\" thing all over again!", "They are making videos not legislation. And both cgp grey and veritassium pay people for fact checking.\n\nAnd even though he isn't electrical engineer he is a physicist. He studied this in university although not as closely as the person from the video.\n\nBut mistakes happen. And they should be called out. But plenty of comments here aren't in that vain but they devolve into personal attacks and questioning his brand as a whole.", "Is Wendover considered general? The majority of that channels videos seem to center around transportation, very frequently aerial transportation is particular.", "The problem is that most people already have a pretty good idea how a lightbulb works and will use their previous knowledge rather than rely on a seconds-long definition given in the video. So even if he's technically correct, he's misleading, and when you're doing educational content technically correct is definitely not the best kind of correct.", "I mean, you could use the same argument with Einstein's famous \"clocks on a train\" examples for special relativity:\n\n\"Well, actually, a train traveling at 0.99c relative to a human observer would be traveling too fast for the human eye & brain to read the clock. Also the sonic boom would kill the human observer. Plus, the friction on the train tracks would destroy the tracks and the train would then catastrophically explode.\"", "Right. You need to lean in the right direction before turning, and normally counter-steering is the easiest and fastest way to lean in the right direction. But you can absolutely manually shift your weight to one side, allowing yourself to turn that way without counter steering first. You normally don't, but you can (e.g. when riding and turning without hands).\n\nBut Veritasium feels this obnoxious need to frame things in this all-or-nothing \"EVERYTHING YOU KNEW ABOUT X WAS WRONG\" tone, which works against any actual educational value he could bring. The real answer to a lot of these questions is \"there's stuff not captured by the standard understanding but this new thing I'm teaching you about isn't the whole story either.\"", "I found it doesn't even really need if any balance shifting. Just a gradual turn. \n\nThey make their video by setting up a weird construct of yelling out a sudden direction to the rider and implying they must turn instantly and sharply. But if you just do it normally, you can absolutely turn with the initial counter steer.", "That's a reasonable point. However, Einstein did not target any of his research and writings towards laymen. When you are writing for scientists, you're allowed to be very technical because you can assume that your audience will evaluate what you write in a certain way.\n\nIt only becomes a problem when you're trying to educate people who are not knowledgeable about physics. In my opinion, Veritasum oversimplifies things so far that he actually becomes detrimental.", "Well said! You don't give the same explanation to a 5 year old, a 12 year old, a college student, etc. It's not a lie to simplify an answer to something that the learner can understand at their level of comprehension.", "> Einstein did not target any of his research and writings towards laymen\n\nQuite the opposite, in fact! Einstein wrote a book titled [\"Relativity: The Special and General Theory (A Popular Exposition)\"](\n https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/5001/pg5001-images.html) wherein he wrote for the layman, and introduced his famous thought experiments -- such as the traveling train. From the preface:\n\n> The present book is intended, as far as possible, to give an exact insight into the theory of Relativity to those readers who, from a general scientific and philosophical point of view, are interested in the theory, but who are not conversant with the mathematical apparatus of theoretical physics. The work presumes a standard of education corresponding to that of a university matriculation examination, and, despite the shortness of the book, a fair amount of patience and force of will on the part of the reader.", "He's an overpaid corporate sell out" ]	220	videos	How Wrong Is VERITASIUM? A Lamp and Power Line Story
https://youtu.be/4yojoJAR8gM	/r/videos/comments/rbxiq5/i_found_this_video_of_a_frog_recently_i_think_it/	[ "this is clearly your own youtube channel lmao", ":) hahah", "But it is good though" ]	4	videos	I found this video of a frog recently I think it is amazing!! What do you think?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZTkHYJ3r-Y	/r/videos/comments/rbxun5/wooden_salvatore/	[ "What the hell was that about?", "wat?", "Wooden Salvatore", "Oh right, of course, I see that now. At first I assumed it was a classic episode of Top Gear.", "> Wooden Salvatore\n\nI guess it's this guy: https://www.insomniac.com/music/artists/salvatore/\nBut...why?", "Oh, it’s the “Boycycle” guy. That explains it.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/UZEFNHod_DU", "Wh.. What do you mean that explains it!? That didn't explain anything! I have way more questions now.", "It explains the bat shit insanity of it. As far as step-grandma in the back seat, she’s probably still upset about the broken picture.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/StYkb5kbM3o", "Couldn't drive the shoe off?", "Wasn't a jag...\n\nAnd the stig ain't lookin' so hot these days", "Must be the Stig’s older cousin, Steve.", "I miss rig stig", "[Because he uploads shit like this from time to time.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRCmmJZRyJs)", "I'm not a fan of his music but I love his videos.", "WOODEN SALVATORE", "Lol, thanks!" ]	16	videos	Wooden Salvatore
https://youtu.be/oGyVuRhak38	/r/videos/comments/rby1n1/the_eternals_a_boring_unfocussed_disaster/	[ "I wasn't a big fan of it either. All of the characters just came from out of nowhere. I also find it hard to buy that no geologist on Earth would know about a tremendous humanoid figure lying dormant inside of it.", "Thoughts? Is the movie good, or bad? Let me and Critical Drinker know in the comments.", "I didn't like it much either but man your tone is so arrogant and obnoxious. Like you're some movie savant for having a really obvious opinion of this movie. I know you worked hard on this but your review style is super outdated.", "I mean, I totally feel the same about THIS movie, but judging all of Phase 4 by just the movies isn't fair. Loki was easily the best of P4 so far and Wanda was pretty ok as well (definitely better than this movie). \"Creatively Spent\" is hyperbole, it's a poorly thought through script and a director that's out of her depth and that's pretty much it... Like somehow that hasn't happened before?\n\nEternals is an example of \"woke\" Disney issues that people (Lindsay Ellis) have been pointing out. That however has fuck all to do with the larger MCU and all the other films & episodics.\n\nStick more to reviewing the film maybe and not \"predicting\" that Marvel is somehow devoid of creativity. Also, Loki was amazing.\n\nAn argument can certainly be made that a lot of Disney properties (god knows there were some TERRIBLE Mandalorian episodes) go over into the deep end of pretentious and fall victim to over-optimistic woke'ness of the specific crew involved in that given production but don't apply it to everything like a luddite..." ]	4	videos	The Eternals - A Boring, Unfocussed Disaster
https://youtube.com/watch?v=q8tSq-fNNyk&feature=share	/r/videos/comments/rby6jl/nativity_scene_mr_bean_official/	[ "Actual footage of the War on Christmas", "This could totally be a Terry Gilliam animation if it was stop motion. Love Mr. Bean!", "Oh it's funny when he acts like a child but when I do it's all \"why are you wearing nothing but a diaper?\"", "Linking to the full [Merry Christmas Mr. Bean](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xISl_WiB7Vs). Such a classic.", "He’s the absolute best. The man can make anything funny.", "The official Mr. Bean channels on YouTube definitely seem to be run by some relatively unscrupulous people. Gus Johnson made [a video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qYKXLr28zo) about it back in December 2019", "The clips are already claimed. I can't watch this, because it's Channel 4 and I'm in Ireland. Geo-blocked.", "That's exactly what I was thinking the entire time I was watching!" ]	8	videos	Nativity Scene \| Mr. Bean Official
https://youtu.be/Crs9uoy5GTc	/r/videos/comments/rbye0z/i_like_removing_fluff_from_television_shows_i/	[ "It includes like 6 paternity tests and a polygraph result.", "Sad. More kids growing up without fathers, in shitty homes. Rinse and repeat. This shit needs to end.", "Now do Storage Wars.", "This was kinda boring without the fluff", "This makes it so sad. Is this what the average person is? It reminds me of Idiocracy", "This train wreck has been on for years. It goes nowhere, with people who go nowhere. There's nothing redeeming about the show and only drags people down to the lowest point. The misery spread by the show brings money to a few people and sponsors. Eventually everyone loses.", "Yeah I think at least the reactions after getting the result should be kept in.", "No, this is not what the average person is like. In fact, I would say it’s the most socially disliked decile or quintile, tops.", "A lot of times people who go on shows like this are coached to ''play up the drama'' for television as well. A lot of these people lowest common denominator types, but a lot of this shit is played up to.", "There wouldn't be anything left then.", "Even cut down, this still makes me feel like an absolute moron for watching it. I couldn't get through 2 minutes.", "So you were the father!", "Maybe, you'll never catch me though.", "What if I could tell you who your real father is?", "eeeyyyyyyyyyuup!", "Okay, [done](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zpy4jgIwb6M).", "How much would it cost to have you remove all the Noel and Matt content from every episode of the great british breaking show post the transfer of the show from the BBC to Channel 5. Despise them and have dreamed of a show with them editted out", "Maury used to be a wholesome show. Wholesome shows don’t survive. This is why you’re hearing Maury’s name in 2021 when his show started in 1991. No different than Jerry Springer and its spinoffs.", "Right... but it's also great.", "How so? It seems to me that people arguing without facts, sufficient evidence, or listening to the other person is nothing more than mental masturbation...a waste of time." ]	20	videos	I like removing fluff from television shows. I removed the fluff from the Maury "You are the father!" Povich show. From 40 minutes to about 5.
https://youtu.be/QS3P51tVEhk	/r/videos/comments/rbyek1/canadian_positivity/	[ "Logic this ironclad should be used for future spacecraft.", "Also, dont eat yellow snow.", "Got a way to spin that positively? I could definitely make that into one if we can find a positive angle lol" ]	3	videos	Canadian Positivity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=netFpPZQHqY	/r/videos/comments/rbyfiu/antivax_christmas_song_san_diego_county_board/	[ "This shit hurts my brain", "Better than those screaming, foaming at the mouth, masks-are-child-abuse anti-vaxxers.", "This makes me embarrassed to be a human being….", "I have a feeling I'll be seeing this dumbass on r/HermanCainAward in due time." ]	4	videos	AntiVax Christmas Song - San Diego County Board Meeting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He-sYfNGsv8	/r/videos/comments/rbyk2b/what_is_wrong_with_this_saxophone/	[ "The very last note kills me.", "Errrm….it’s a saxophone is the main thing wrong here.\n\nThen there’s the bleeding of my ears listening to it.", "I think it’s the guy" ]	3	videos	What is wrong with this saxophone?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZvbT8h--qQ	/r/videos/comments/rbypw7/demon_possessed_car_its_off_and_making_these/	[ "This coming from speakers?\n\nSounds like an electrical short in the audio system causing speakers to flap.\n\nOr RF interference from a nearby High Power Radio Tower / HAM radio repeater that is leaking RF energy (tuned wrong) can energize and conduct to the speakers even when car is turned off… kind of like overly powered CB radios can blast through electronics.", "Oh that's an interesting thought, I didn't consider it coming from the speakers. It was so loud I couldn't pinpoint where it was coming from and I couldn't replicate. That would make more sense to since the car is off, so nothing mechanical would be causing it.\n\nI'll test that out - thank you!", "Was there an aftermarket audio system installed in this vehicle?", "Nope, had the car almost its full life, nothing aftermarket in the audio system.", "Petroleum is the best seasoning though!", "If it happens again, place a hand on the speaker grate and see if you feel it moving.", ":)", "I 2nd this. The sound really amplified after the doors had been opened. I can usually hear most mechanical problems better from the outside than the inside of a car.", "I’m a mechanic and this is the funniest shit ever haha", "The guys over in /raskcarguys think so too haha - either somethings boiling, my audio system lost its mind, or I've got some gremlins." ]	11	videos	Demon Possessed Car - it's off and making these noises - any idea what it might be?
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rbyroi/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/rbyroi/deleted_by_user/	[ "Great scene.", "Now they understand!", "You linked the video and couldn't even fucking quote it correctly", "You know Rorschach wasn't supposed to be cool right? He's not someone to aspire to be.", "I'll trade you my vigilantly boner if you give me a justice system. One that also goes after politicians, the rich, and dangerous police.", "Second.", "me when i play clockwerk", "It wasn't his vigilantism that's the problem, I'm all for an armed mob going after corruption. It's his alt-right, incel philosophy that Watchmen's creator, Alan Moore, says is not to be aspired to. When fans walk up to him at cons and say Rorschach is their favorite character, he is quoted as thinking \"that's nice, now get the fuck away from me and stay away.\"", "Someone gets hacked to death with a cleaver and another guy has fryer oil thrown in his face.\n\nBetter beep out the “fucks”.", "Lmao just give up, you are talking about a fanbase that even stans the Comedian, despite him killing pregnant women and raping people~", "Can you tell that to all the people that slap the punisher logos on everything and treat his character like jesus too please.", "Oh god, where I live I see thin blue line punisher logos on pickup trucks and I'm just like, \"you really didn't get the point, did you?\"", "Frank Castle would light those vehicles up so fast.", "whats the big deal they're just women", "Don't remember his alt-right incelyness from the movie and I never read the comic so I can't make any arguments there", "Yeah in the movie there isn't much, just a couple lines about whores and sinners towards the beginning. In the comics, his journal is filled with alt right and incel fury lol" ]	16	videos	[deleted by user]
https://youtu.be/GJNx95YmnrE	/r/videos/comments/rbz1bi/tupac_was_ahead_of_his_time/	[ "Wut", "I think that was posted a bit out of context and not in a timely order. A bitch may refer to a not very nice person, regardless if they have a dick or not. The problem is also with the super wide definition of what a bitch means. Either way I am glad that Tupac had personal development that was documented, I think we all need that.", "Seemed more like a regression but perhaps it was out of order like you say." ]	3	videos	Tupac was ahead of his time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngOkHrjhbfU	/r/videos/comments/rbzoq6/bavarian_entertainer_imitates_russian_spanish/	[ "Cringe", "DAMN MAN XD WRITING \"Cringe\" IS SO FUCKIN CRINGEEE BROO HAHAH :D:D XDDD LIKE LMAO I CRINGE MY FACE INWARDS SO HARD THAT SOME DAYS CRINGE CONSUMES ME AND I BECOME THE CRINGE XD DAMN I FUCKING LOVE CRINGE BUT WRITING CRINGE ON A CRINGE SUBREDDIT WITH A CRINGE USERNAME SAYING CRINGE WHILE CRINGING ON THE INTERNET TO A NON CRINGE CLIP IS DEFINITELY KINDA CRINGE BRO SO PLEASE STOP USING CRINGE IF YOU CANT UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT OF CRINGING....... WHAT I WANTED TO SAY TO YOU BBY GIRL IS::::::: CRINGE LMAOOOOOOOOOO", "The internet.. what a time to be alive", "C R I N G E :-)", "Are you from Germany?", "Bayerisch (Bavarian). Specifically Oberbayerisch", "Bayrisch I think", "Maybe stick to the tech subs :)", "The spanish one with the lisp was dead on lol", "It the Bavarian Jack Black!!", "His imitation of German was also talented.\n\n\\*waiting for incoming shitstorm", "Hilarious! \"High production\" super professional work where everything is a prop and everyone's an actor is super boring to me. It's refreshing to see that the bartender kept actually pouring beer and the audience was genuinely having fun.", "Got'eeem!" ]	11	videos	Bavarian entertainer imitates russian, spanish, turkish and italian music in a funny way
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rbzrkn/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/rbzrkn/deleted_by_user/	[ "Boooorrrinnnngggggg", "he says as he grabs another dorito", "Nah, not at work, maybe after." ]	3	videos	[deleted by user]
https://youtu.be/rMsbqO3O9ck	/r/videos/comments/rc0bz8/south_park_post_covid_the_return_of_covid_promo/	[ "It's been a while since I enjoyed South Park and this episode was awesome.", "Depressing that this show is still on the air", "That last episode was hilarious", "If it's not for you, luckily you can ignore it entirely and no one will care.\n\nFwiw though, it's been quite a while since a new south park season, it's just been two specials in a few years", "Comment replaced by overseas worker.", "> this episode was awesome\n\nWhat do you mean? This is a promo for the next special, this \"episode\" hasn't released yet.", "Its a promo for part 2, i think they meant part 1 of this episode", "It’s depressing that people like you exist.", "I'm Trey Parker and reddit sucks.", "And here I thought we had to wait till next year for the 2nd part, lets go! 😍", "to each their own, I think the social commentary is hilarious", "Glad they are keeping them coming", "More depressing that people like you exist. \n\nLet people hate or like whatever they want, don't need to wish the end of someone's existence over it.", "Oh shit that is way sooner than I was expecting. Now I can cancel after my free month and be done with it. \n\nIn other news, are the South Park guys gonna pick a platform and stick with it this time? Or are they just gonna go to another streaming service for their next batch of specials?", "South Park has been as sharp as ever the last few years. It’s great as a social commentary, especially with all the craziness happening recently.", "Huh? Their primary platform has always been comedy central...", "People still watch cable?", "Nope, but that's where it gets released first.", "The video says it's exclusive to paramount+ though?", "It's cool if they hate it. But why the hell are they here commenting that they hate it lmao", "You're right it's on paramount+, it's the first release they've done that wasn't Comedy Central.", "Damn you're stupid dude. Hope you don't act half as bad in real life. Take it easy!", "Cry more about it, pussy" ]	26	videos	"South Park Post Covid: The Return of Covid" Promo
https://youtu.be/Wck6jyN-5so	/r/videos/comments/rc19cp/the_chicken_game/	[ "???? Wish I knew why it was funny, I want a good laugh too.", "he rolled up the paper and bent it into a rough phone-shape. \nthen had the other guy say \"wing wing wing\" (like a phone ringing) so he answered the paper \"phone\" and said \"Hewo?\" (Hello but with a w-sound)", "The rolled up paper is like an old fashioned landline phone", "\"I'm gonna murder you\" lol", "That's no way an old.phone was curved like that. We've only recently developed curved screens. \n/s", "It’s so sad that this needs to be explained. No offense, but…", "Haha yeah, next you're gonna tell me that old phones didn't have buttons either", "When did phones ever have buttons? It used to be dials and now it's touch screens. I think you might be thinking of something else.\n\nEdit: Ok, I obviously know phones had buttons. Guess I should have included another \"/s\" here. Anyway if you downvoted, consider yourself [r/woosh](https://reddit.com/r/woosh)ed.", "Wut?", "agreed. that was stupid.", "People over 20: \"Hahahaha!\"\n\n\nPeople under 20: \"...?\"", "Phones had buttons (touch-tone) decades years even before mobile phones. \n\nAT&T's started selling touch-tone phones in 1960s. In 1990 there were more touch-tone phones than rotary dial phones in the market. Then came mobile phones with buttons. \n\nAround around 2007 came first smartphones without buttons.", "Lmao! Thank you so much for clarifying that! That’s hilarious.", "Sung Won is a treasure !", "Aw man, I didn't even realize younger kids would have never seen a landline style phone and not get the joke. Man, I'm not even old really and things have changed so much since I was a kid, it's nuts.", "I bet you don't even know how to ride a horse into the village for the annual witch burning. Kids these days, smh...", "Most phones in the 80s and 90s had buttons. \n\nhttp://www.liketotally80s.com/2015/02/80s-phones/", "Stupid and hilarious", "Horse riding? You were lucky. My society hadn't yet invented animal domestication when I was a kid. We had to walk to our flower dancing rituals. I mean no offense, but......", "Goes to show how old this joke is.", "Saaang waang?", "The amazing johnathan did it better", "If you think people under 20 don't know what a landline is you're crazy. Maybe a toddler might not fully understand but Fisher Price still makes their classic phone with wheels for babies. It's in movies and shit.", "Sad part is, despite you calling it stupid and not knowing that humor is subjective, you misunderstood the comment you were responding to.", "r/contagiouslaughter", "Hrm, didn't know under 20's people's phones didn't ring, and they don't put their phone up to their ear and they don't answer hello?\n\nI also didn't realize they don't have the exact same ringers on every phone that is the same as the old style phone.", "Phone still rings, ring still used as word for the noise your phone makes, you still answer phones by putting it to your ear and saying hello.\n\nThe only detail would be an old style receive/handset, but guess what, cordless phones are still a thing, payphones are still a thing, peoples older relatives have landlines, companies have landlines, businesses have landlines.", "A couple of my favorite things of this are:\n\nThe phone icon on your smart phone is a landline receiver. Most kids haven’t ever actually used one of those. \n\nThe save icon in Word and most computer processes is a 3.5 floppy disk. No one under 20 has ever used on of those.", "He gon eat every subway sammich. And every yoplayt yogurt. And evey oreo cookie!", "What? Landline phones still exist in like... every business. If they work a job where they've ever had to answer a phone call, they've probably used a landline phone.\n\n...possible exceptions are for app based gig jobs.", "https://youtu.be/TO4Bq2H7-r0?t=93", "Oh my god, thank you for explaining it. I was trying to think of vulgar puns leading to fake disbelief, I couldn't make the connection it was a goddamn phone.", "I'm way over 20, and this is just lame.", "That's cuz it's fucking stupid.", "Kids know nothing... lol\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHNEzndgiFI", "PRO YOU DUMB MFER", "RIP :’(", "Meh. They worked it out, eventually.", "I always do this joke with a dollar, using the eagle's wing.", "wth? for a second there, I thought he died. Had to go to Youtube to double check.\n\nPSA: SungWon is alive and well (at least as of seven hours ago).", "Honestly was having a really rough day and this made it so much better. Thank you.", "You likely have heard [that guy's voice on TV or games](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SungWon_Cho).", "The comments of I don't get it are killing me 😆", "Dude has a great voice and should consider doing voice overs. No lie there is a lot of money to be made if you can enunciate well and be consistent", "Pretty sure he’s already a voice actor.", "/r/YourJokeButWorse", "Thank you for your research.", "Suge Win??", "whoosh", "My mom still has a landline, plenty of offices use landlines, they aren't obselete, I'm sure plenty of schools have them too, I think he was just trying to make a cute joke.", "Wing wing wing \n\nSounds like \n\nRing ring ring\n\nAnd then he picks it up like an old time phone", "Wing wing wing phone call phone call.", "You’re very welcome. Hope your week improves x", "People here will think your joking about his weight, but I get it my friend. Love his everything reviews!", "I'm so confused", "We used to do the same joke only using a dollar bill and the wings from the eagle.", "Agreed. I honestly haven't seen a normal landline receiver in ages, except for retail jobs. Most places I've seen have switched to VOIP or just use cell phones.", "Oh yeah. Huge fan actually. I guess I got downvoted for spelling. I was really high and it struck me as funny to type like that. Idk why.", "that was funkin good.", "Razy lacism", "FL4K from borderlands. Well I'll be...", "His laugh at the end is so good", "People under 20 that have consumed any form of media made in the early 2000’s or the 20th century or any form of media that portrays the early 2000s or the 20th century: hahaha", "[Do you know what this is](https://d3h6k4kfl8m9p0.cloudfront.net/stories/HzqVBBQ8STq1R47Z7ZK2iQ.jpg)? Were you alive in the 20s?", "Clicked because I thought I saw Sung Won in the thumbnail. Was not disappointed.\n\nNot disappointed at all.", "Hell, I'm in my 40s and haven't used a DVD on my PC in 7 or 8 years. I bet a ton of kids have never even used a CD, DVD, or BluRay for anything. Tons of people buy Xbox or PS games exclusively digitally now, despite all the pushback from old-schoolers.", "According to that link, it’s his birthday today!", "What are they laughing about? Completely clueless. Can someone explain?", "Yeah, seriously. Not just offices. Emergency phones (the ones that usually directly connect through to a safety officer or the front desk) in schools still exist too. Maybe not everywhere but they're still things, and they look like this too. \n\nI'd be impressed if you could find a normal 12 year old, showed them this joke, and didn't know what it was about.", "I mean, to be fair, rotary phones haven't been in general use in what, 3 decades at least? I'm around 30 and I can honestly say I've never seen one outside of TV and in some museums. \n\nAnd those kids even figured it out after a bit of trial and error. They're faced with a form of technology that they've never used before and they have no real comparable thing they've ever used, and it took them 4 minutes to figure out how to work it. I'm honestly impressed by that.", "Yeah, all these people complaining kids won't get it are just jerking themselves off over anti-gen-z memes. Like, 90% of this joke translates to modern usage of phones, the only real thing you need to know is roughly what a landline looks like, and they're not as common sure but they're still around. It's not like the dude was miming using a rotary phone, and even then I reckon most people would get it from context.", "That would be lovely for a child.", "Wing wing wing is like ring ring ring and the paper is set up like [an old style landline telephone.](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/74/Alt_Telefon.jpg)", "This got me good. Great way to start a morning. Haven't laughed that hard in a long time.", "I had to explain to my high school students today what a CD is and how it works. They had no idea...", "He is a voice actor. Even came out in Borderlands.\n\nMore Recently in Fire Emblem Heroes.", "Win Zip?", "King Dragon sends his regards", "When I was a kid I knew that back in the day you had to have the operator connect you to whoever you wanted to call, because of Bugs Bunny cartoons.", "What you mean I am right about something?\n\nCan you talk to my wife about this?\n\n/s", "I wouldn’t have laughed at the joke, but no way I can resist belly laughter.", "I need to ask her Boy Friend, Chad for permission first.\n\nLast time I talked to both of them, they told me not to talk directly at you.", "I’ll be trying it out on my nephew at Christmas", "Ouch.", "We're gonna need bigger chairs", "Wow, that was not funny in the least.", "The same is probably true for you.\n\nThe cc and bcc for emails stands for \"carbon copy\" and \"blind carbon copy\"\n\nFrom when you typed on carbon paper to make multiple copies.", "Ding dong ding dong ding dong ding - Bananna phonnneeeee", "lol", "They look like really fun people 😍", "That is sooo dumb...have an upvote.\n\n;o)", "so lucky that I am 21 years old and got the joke. Too bad people born after 2001 got their memories about old landline phones after the 2001 phone cord incident", "I'm 37 and I don't get it either....\n\nWing wing wing whoa? Am I just dense?", "My grandmother still had one of those when I was a kid. I was born in 1980.\n\nIt was on a \"party line\", where everyone in the valley's phone would ring, except you had a special ring when it was for you. So you'd have to sit there and listen for \"short short long\" or whatever, then race to pick up the phone before they hung up. All the neighbors could pick up and listen in, so there were no secrets.", "Humour is subjective my friend, don’t take that away from the people who don’t match your own. It would be a very depressing world otherwise.", "Yeah you are lol. wing sounds like ring. Ring ring Ring like a phone.", "I know! I learned it from Bugs Bunny cartoons!", "Did they struggle understanding the interest rate?\n\n<bada bum>", "You sir must have very comical toilet breaks", "I have a photo of my 7 year old son pretending to use a payphone when he was 2. I use it as my phone's wallpaper.", "OHHH!\n\nWing wing wing hello!\n\nI kept hearing \"Whoa\" because he laughed before finishing his word.", "Yeah, totally saw the punchline coming due to Mr. The Amazing. Solidly played though!", "As someone who'd not yet tried Panda Express but was curious, he convinced me I've been making the correct choice all along. A delightful personality, excellent voice, and dedicated public servant, he is.", "NOW DRINK!", "Dear god I'm old.", "This shows how sensitive people are now. I expressed MY FUCKING OPINION.\n\nWhat I did not do;\n\n* Put anyone down\n* Call anyone out\n* Defame anyone who disagreed\n* Threaten anyone\n\nSo get over yourself, you guys need to downvote my opinion because you don't agree, that's fine. But you didn't need to comment to imply I'm making the world a depressing place.", "Welcome to the club!", "You having a bad day mate? Feel free to send me a DM if you fancy a chat. I’m happy to listen.", "Very old joke", "More like a bad life, even my wife just had to pull me aside and ask what is up with my recent attitude. I really should seek mental help.", "Maybe consider taking yourself away from online discussions for a few days mate.\n\nPeople are assholes when they have an opinion and will die repeatedly on any hill online because they can just put another penny in the slot and play another game. Truth of the matter is, outside of this small digital box their opinions mean nothing, so this is where they turn to get a reaction and ego points.\n\nMy mantra… no shit taken, no fucks given! On here and in real life. \n\nSo in brief, fuck these nobody’s and go and give your lovely wife a massive snog, just because!", "Literally my 18 month old will call an old style telephone a “phone”. She also calls iPhones “phones”. Babies are smart.", "https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/jun/29/pwc-hangs-up-on-landlines-in-shift-to-mobile-first-culture Pwc got rid of desk phones a few years ago. \n\nI work at a software company and we got rid of ours in the last year or so.", "I had rotary phone toys and we all figured out how to dial them despite not knowing anyone that owned a real one.", "I'm just gonna drop this here: https://youtu.be/czLYl4fM8yk", "Win rar", "I want to punch this douche in his stupid face!", "Wow. Ouch. Nevermind" ]	122	videos	The Chicken Game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufDIPMs3gOc	/r/videos/comments/rc1rui/shitfuck/	[ "Best version:\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWxISwEBU0U", "That feeling of clicking on something so profoundly stupid that you literally fear YouTube's algorithm thinking you want to see more of it.", "slaps" ]	3	videos	shitfuck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qreFaO1dR4&t=30s	/r/videos/comments/rc2c86/native_new_yorker_1977_come_to_see_the_falldown/	[ "How can you give it this title and then timestamp it PAST the drunk guy eating pizza?!", "ugh I have no idea how that happened.", "Awesome!", "I think the date is wrong at 1:51 you can clearly see the \"Cats\" billboard. Cats opened in 1982. And based on some of the fast food places, I'm thinking closer to 1987." ]	4	videos	Native New Yorker (1977) Come to see the fall-down drunk guy trying to eat a slice of pizza, stay for the vintage cars and footage of Radio City Music Hall and Rockefeller Center
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKuW-Fw7Ekg	/r/videos/comments/rc2p1x/dont_go_in_turn_on_subtitles/	[ "Is this the same guy that did Asus one?", "How do I unwatch something?", "Master piece.", "Play it in reverse while yawning.", "It definitely is. Very distinctive voice.\n\nThe ASUS one was great but I still prefer their [Playstation](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEN00wMFB2A) one.\n\nThere are a ton of funny videos on that channel.", "Yup, been watching their stuff since that post", "This is amazing", "You mean the 5G router?", "it do be like that sometimes", "Sweat droplets form...\n\nY-yes. I meant 5G router!" ]	11	videos	Don't Go In (turn on subtitles)
https://youtu.be/1SlH8So1Q_o	/r/videos/comments/rc3sie/scifi_conceptflesh_pit/	[ "This was such a fun watch!!!! That worldbuilding was masterful, the mixing of corporate nomenclature with eldritch horror worked perfectly, the L Serafiniesque-ian landscape was so otherworldy!!!", "Wow. Incredible content. Sounds like something from the Interface series", "I absolutely adore stuff like this. World-building is everything to me.", "Really cool stuff, it's like a really fleshed out SCP entry!", "Holy crap this is one of the coolest things ever. How do I find more stuff like this ?", "Curious Archive on YouTube has more stuff like this. You can also look into speculative zoology as well. \n\nYou might also want to look into \"All Tomorrow's\", it's based on a book but there is a great video by alt shift X", "I have no idea how, but I once stumbled upon like an hour and a half long analysis of this place once. Intense world building. \nIt was incredible.", "The mystery flesh pit has been a staple on /r/worldbuilding for years. Exhilarating to see it become widely noticed. The author puts a lot of work into it.", "Check out welcome to nightvale its a radio show for a strange town.", "There is a subreddit for this btw, /r/FleshPitNationalPark/\n\nI found this a couple of months ago and spent a day reading all the official stuff. It's so well done.\n\nOne day this ought to have a big hollywood disaster/horror movie.", "Go to Meow Wolf in Vegas or Denver.", "It had better be, and if I see another Prometheus /alien reboot I'm going to have a very angry yelp review.", "Agreed. Glad OPs mom got her own entry.", "I wonder if this is inspired by the Arthur Conan Doyle story, \"And the World Screamed\" about a group of scientists that dig really deep and hit living flesh.", "The crazy thing about this world building is that I could so see it happening in real life. No way in hell would some opportunistic bastard let this pass them by." ]	17	videos	Sci-Fi Concept:Flesh Pit
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rc48ds/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/rc48ds/deleted_by_user/	[ "ELEVEN", "I'm an American living in Scotland and watching Scottish people try to use voice-activated anything is simultaneously hilarious and frustrating.", "I think the developers do it on purpose at this point, they've had long enough", "shes putting that on a bit though", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n-GAd33jew" ]	5	videos	[deleted by user]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJmJ5FbY5RY	/r/videos/comments/rc4l1t/in_defense_of_nicholas_cage/	[ "I admit, i like Nicholas Cage as an actor. And i enjoy many of his over-the-top roles. Mom And Dad is a great role of his, and i enjoyed Color Out of Space even though it wasn't as good or accurate as it could have been.", "Pig is like John Wick but instead of guns his weapon of choice is emotions and feelings.", "Pig was phenomenal. Highly recommend it as someone who is ehhh when it comes to Nick Cage. \n\nLove your description of the movie btw", "About fuckin time! Put some respect on his name. I jumped off the rage cage bandwagon when it started to become about malicious stupid memes with 0 contextual critique. Even the early critiques were more nuanced and measured than what all of it eventually led to.", "Who doesn't respect the power of Nicolas Cage?\n\nHe's a phenomenal actor and he makes every movie he's in better than it would be without him. You can't say that about many actors.", "3 bloody hours?! Yeah, nah. No thanks", "Nicholas Cage doesn't need anyone's whiteknighting.", "A very Cagesque approach.", "Leaving Las Vegas, Wild at Heart, he’s a damn good actor but recently he’s been getting bad roles.", "Nicholas Cage isn't a good actor. He isn't a bad actor, an awful actor, or a great actor.\n\nHe's all of the above, on demand.", "Part of watching a film with Nicholas Cage in it is knowing what you're getting in to. It's kind of like going to one of those Hawaiian fire shows and saying \"ya know they really ought to put that fire out, it looks dangerous\". It's a Nic Cage film, you're there to watch him perform, not exactly mimic another person.", "Completely agree with Lynch and Hawk as they're quoted." ]	13	videos	In Defense of Nicholas Cage
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rc4v3w/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/rc4v3w/deleted_by_user/	[ "My mother has a big scar on her leg from being pushed into a fence seeing The Beatles. She said admittedly she was a screamer and the scar is worth it. She had a similar love for Elvis and saw him too, but luckily that was without injury. She saw a lot of bands and she said said Elvis was by far the best and most entertaining show she's ever seen. She said The Beatles rocked the house, but didn't really engage the audience like Elvis.", "That would be really scary, come to think of it, being mobbed by screaming crowds wherever you went. Like it wouldn't be that far to go from adulation to a literal riot.", "this is REALLY interesting — where did this clip come from? I would love to watch more of it. perhaps a documentary? I didn't see any clues on the YouTube page itself or else I'd not be asking.", "Pretty sure it's from The Beatles Anthology", "My mother saw them a couple of times play before they were famous, in either Manchester or Liverpool, can't remember which. Blows my mind that she was probably having a gin and tonic and tapping her feet to a pub band that became the biggest band in history.", "I've never understood how people can go that crazy about someone famous. Kind of makes them seem primate-like and stupid to me.", "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The\\_Beatles\\_Anthology", "Any reason there's been a surge of beatles related posts recently?", "People are insane. I'll never understand being starstruck.", "Thank you!", "Thank you!" ]	11	videos	[deleted by user]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arUFS0HPyc8	/r/videos/comments/rc4w6r/upper_echelon_gamers_called_out_the_patterns_that/	[ "as a genuinely hilarious side note... apparently posting any youtube videos on the r/youtube subreddit results in a ban.", "I don't think you read what that sub is for if you think posting a video to it is what the sub is for.", "it is for discussing youtube. but banning someone and removing their post because they link a youtube video discussing you tube is essentially equivalent to banning someone and removing their post to a sub discussing books because they shared a book discussing books.\n\nit is simply stupid. which makes it funny. but mostly just stupid.", "Their rules are pretty blunt about not allowing posts of videos. Looks like they blanket ban videos that aren't from YouTube proper to avoid any loopholes.", "no amount of rationalization on your part, or theirs, makes it any less stupid. or funny.", "I mean the sub is for discussing YouTube. Not posting videos about it. Don't see anything funny or stupid about that.", "Serious discussion about Youtube shouldn't be marred by low-brow content such as Youtube.", "Lemme rephrase your sentence for you,\n\n>My mind is already made up and my heels are already dug in on this. Absolutely nothing you say will ever change my mind about the conclusions I have jumped to. Also, I think I'm smarter than you.", "it saddens me that you thought this was clever.", "> no amount of rationalization\n\nIt's not rationalization, it's a blanket policy that radically simplifies enforcement. They have half a million users. Mods can't watch every video submission to see if it's a relevant exception to their rule, so videos are simply disallowed, full stop.\n\nYou clearly fail to understand this, both in this instance, and in your analysis of YouTube. It's the same problem, except that YouTube has 2 billion users. Every 24 hours, nearly a century of new content is uploaded to the site. It's impossible for humans to moderate, so they've built software systems to do it, and those systems are imperfect. The biggest difference between YouTube in 2005 and 2021 is scale.", "i understand that reddit was better when it had less mods, less moderation, and less censorship. just like the rest of the internet.", "You just keep acting like someone who thinks they are way smarter than they actually are. Every single word you type just reeks of unwarranted pretentiousness. You're not smart and smart people don't like you, buddy.", "smart enough to not waste any more time on you.", "> less moderation\n\nThat only works when groups are small. That applies to any situation with people, internet or not.", "strongly disagree. the entire point of up/downvote or like/dislike systems was to allow the community to filter content without the need for an overarching authority. especially since the only thing authority ever leads to is abuse.\n\nmoderators should be removing cp and dox's. and that. is. all.", "> moderators should be removing cp and dox's\n\nThat can't be done by humans at YouTube scale. You're still missing the point.", "no. YOU'RE missing the point. reddit, and youtube for that matter, were shaped by the users of the sites choosing what posts/videos were good, and which were shit. and in addition to the up/downvote button, there is a 'report' function. by only going through what the community reports (and they will), and only removing items that fit an explicitly narrow definition, you do not need an army of moderators.\n\nhowever, if your goal is to take that control away from the users of the site, well, then you need an army of mods.\n\nhttps://www.reddit.com/r/WatchRedditDie/comments/n33s7q/reddit_has_become_the_most_censored_platform_on/", "> moderators should be removing cp and dox's. and that. is. all.\n\nStart a subreddit without moderation and tell me how well that goes. The amount of spam that even moderately large subreddits get is insane.", "\\woosh\\ [You're own words, man. Think it through](https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rc4w6r/upper_echelon_gamers_called_out_the_patterns_that/hntm4he/). You can do it!\n\n> if your goal is to take that control away from the users\n\nIf your goal is to not get literally shut down by fucking governments, because the scale of your operation has become so massive that it influences human civilization and is in the crosshairs of thousands of lawyers and politicians worldwide, the mom & pop sensibilities you're nostalgic for no longer apply. Going from 2 million users to 2 billion users is a qualitative change.", "/worldpolitics was, and remains, completly unmoderated. and for most of the site's history, it was a fantastic sub with global news from multiple sources. when it was one of many (read - most) essentially unmoderated sub users sorted out content, and themselves. people are happy to self regulate when left free to do so, and given the tools for it.\n\nwhen it became the LAST unmoderated sub it turned to shit. because all the edgelords that USED to have their own subs went there to, well, edgelord.\n\ni've been on reddit for longer than the current owners. i've watched the transformation. i saw the causes, and i see what it would take to avoid them. and it essentially the opposite of everything that has been done in the past five years.\n\nhttps://www.reddit.com/r/WatchRedditDie/comments/n33s7q/reddit_has_become_the_most_censored_platform_on/", "> because all the edgelords that USED to have their own subs went there to, well, edgelord.\n\nTo be honest, from the thread you linked you sound awfully like one of those edgelords.\n\nYeah, of course if you go post the hottest of takes on politically charged topics, you're going to get banned eventually because mods can't be 100% consistent on where the draw the line on that stuff.", "my 'hot take' is that people should be free, and accountable. educated, and curious. caring, and independent. reasonable, and open minded. respected, as well as respectful.\n\nthat my position is so unwelcome in the echo chambers that have replaced the forums that used to exist, frankly, merely cements my supposition we are in the epilogue of our species' story.", "What are you talking about with that second paragraph?\n\nWe have more free speech now than ever before in history. Even on reddit itself, you're entirely free to create your own subreddit and run it however you want.", "thought you said you read my link.\n\nwhatever. i gotta go find a bottle of whiskey. talking to the people here has been a fucking ordeal.", "Yeah, a lot of subreddits are heavily moderated... but that's _their choice_ on how to run those subreddits. And it's your choice what subreddits to read / post on. Inconsistent enforcement of rules? Sure it happens, but it's not the admins job to micromanage how subreddits are applying their subreddit specific moderation policy.\n\nI've been on the site for 10 years too and haven't really seen a particular bias (from the admins, the userbase is obviously very liberal slanted). For example, /r/Canada is basically run by white supremacists but the admins don't step in and take the subreddit away from them because they aren't violating any of the site wide rules.", "Just to point out how stupid your comment make you look:\n\nIf you didn't want to waste any more energy on him, you wouldn't have made a comment stating as much. By saying it out loud you are stating that you are indeed wasting energy on him for one reason and one reason alone: LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, PLEASE DO NOT IGNORE ME INTERNET!\n\nBut hey, I hope you can find some real relationships outside of the internet so you don't feel the need to make an ass of yourself to get validation.", "Reddit isn't how it used to be, because it cannot be. If Reddit was how it was years ago when I joined, then subreddits like r/jailbait, r/fatpeoplehate, r/shitn**rsay would still exist, incredibly toxic cesspools. \n\nImagine if there was a photo of you on r/fatpeoplehate, smiling with your loving mother, before the cancer took her life, and the comment section was filled with people, explaining in great detail, how they want to punch you and your kind mom in the face. Well, that shit was real for some people to wake up to.\n\nThat's what you get when you leave the community to govern itself. So unfortunately, we need shitty rules, and the moderators, (paid for / voluntary) to enforce them or there is simply no community period.\n\nReddit's former CEO (Yishan Wong) and 4chan's CEO (Christopher Poole) both wanted the community to govern itself as you do, as we all do, they can be cited in saying so themselves, but they both left their companies because they realized it just doesn't work.\n\nTL;DR**\n\nOld reddit you liked had bad stuff on it --> Government says no hosting illegal content or I'll shut ya down and prosecute your ass --> Reddit instructs mods to remove illegal content because users fail at doing it themselves --> mods remove illegal content and make mistakes because human --> malicious users try harder to craftily post illegal content --> mods have to make more annoying rules you don't like to be allowed to remove content --> process continues until malicious users give up, user base leaves out of frustration, or a mix of the two.", "Dude unironically watches a channel called Upper Echelon Gaming" ]	29	videos	Upper echelon gamers called out the patterns that led to the recent removal of youtube's dislike 3 years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61L4XU4f4J0	/r/videos/comments/rc599d/little_fella_farms/	[ "My life just got much worse for having discovered this.", "that's a funny little character, I like that", "Thats just the ť͙̮͎̠̲͚̫̳͎͓̩̉͑͊̑ͬ̿̓̅̊̋ͦ͜͜ͅȟͦ҉͚̠e̢̧̫̪̫͚̖̲͍̥̝ͦ͛̔ͪ͒ͨ̃̀͌ ̱͈͈̗̗̹̞̼̫̼̤͖͌͂ͩ͗͒̉̆͋ͫ͋̽̂w̥̜͔̝͖̺̺̮̠͚̭̲ͬ̀̇͂̊͋̽̐ͣͮͩ̏a̸̢͖̱̭̞͔̣̲͓͈͕͉̹͉͜y͖ ̱͙̻o̴ͮ͊̔̉ͭ͂͆̊̆́̄ͪ̿́͏̨f͚̼̥̯͎̩̜͑͊̏ͨ̍̊ͥ͟ ̸̉ͦ̌ͮt̲̩̦͈̯͉̯̪̀͢h̶̳̞͡e̟͖͍̬͖̟̦͈̭̲̼͚͈̪ͨ̾̔ͮ̔̍̐ͩ͐͗ͫ͐̿̚ ̴̿̀̿̔́ͬ͒͒̓̑ͯ̀f͎̬̩͔̯̃̓̑̏̐͢ä͎̞́́͛ͅr͕̮̞͖͎͉͚̲̈͗͐̈͊͗̂͆̍̿͘ͅͅm͖͙͎̺̥͚͕̰͔̏̏͒̉͌̄̇̿ͯ", "Really clever way of animating.", "Damn, this is some 2008 era comedy. But made this year. Neat animation though.", "Whelp, that’s just the whelp ^^^whelp ^^^^^^whelp ^^^^^^^^^whelp ^^^^^^whelp ^^^^^^whelp", "Inter-dimensional Cable.", "Excellent", "Thanks! It's super quick to make.", "A damn fine year. Everything was simpler back then, before this video existed.", "This has some under the hood magic I can relate to many other animators I've found highly palatable.", "funny shit.", "This was great ! Love it", "this guys channel is so good, subbed!\n\nits like a mixture of rick and morty and asdfmovie", "the LOTR one is hilarious.\n\nMUSHROOMS!!!!", "It's so smooth", "Ayy thank you!" ]	17	videos	Little Fella Farms
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqboAI-Vk-U	/r/videos/comments/rc5st0/google_year_in_search_2021/	[ "I wonder what the bing year in search was like?", "\"MILF in a surgical mask\"", "\"chrome download\" x millions", "Interesting how they showed Ted Lasso at the end, which is an Apple TV exclusive show. \n\n\nSomeone at google is subscribed to Apple TV and got their show into a google AD. \n\n\nHm.", "This guy knows the proper search engine for porn.", "When a company makes as much money as a nation should we start calling videos like this corporate propaganda?" ]	6	videos	Google – Year In Search 2021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w46Dwh4TMGA	/r/videos/comments/rc6hsw/remembered_this_gem_bo_burnhams_favorite_video_on/	[ "Your average Redditor house", "TRUE", "That was a journey", "A soaped sausage, an electrical fire, a peach-sausage shake and then he just went to bed without finishing the sausage. It was a good story." ]	5	videos	Remembered this gem, Bo Burnham's favorite video on YouTube. Simpler times...
https://youtu.be/dH5ONdVf7aU	/r/videos/comments/rc7qfc/1950s_tex_averys_house_of_tomorrow_mashup/	[ "Just let em try to get away", "You can look down and see if it was a friend of yours", "Wasn't expecting all that woman hate to end in \"here's how to force your date to be close to you\" but it did", "They really didn't like mother-in-laws.", "Apparently. But they were always included in the design, so at least they weren’t ignored completely, I guess?" ]	5	videos	1950's Tex Avery’s ‘House of Tomorrow’ mashup
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuHQizveO1c	/r/videos/comments/rc7z2p/every_neighborhood_should_have_a_corner_storebut/	[ "Watched this earlier today, it’s well worth the time. I live 3 blocks from a corner store and it’s really nice to be able to walk down for a snack, a tallboy, grab a pint of ice cream for after dinner, exchange a propane cylinder, etc.", "It really is so nice. In NYC the corner stores even have grills so you can reliably get hot food - the place below my apartment was 24 hours-ish, so pretty much always I could get a bagel or sandwich. You also develop a relationship with the corner store person - when I lived in DC, Singh who ran the store on my block would stay open an extra 15 minutes on tuesdays because I worked late that day and that's when I got off work and bought a six pack from him", "I've lived directly above and two houses down from a corner store - the convenience of one is unmatched. Walking out of your front door and being able to buy stuff is just incredible\n\nAlso, frankly - why do other people get a say? If I build a mcmansion, none of my neighbors get a say in the slightest even if its next door. Why is selling sandwiches different?", "I live near a fruit stand and a corner store -- it's amazing I have all the fresh produce I could ever want. And no waste. I buy exactly as much as I need", "This might sound crazy to you but other people would not mind living adjacent to it. So as long as you don't buy a house adjacent to a corner market you'd be fine. In fact, a lot of people would being next to a corner market. Imagine being able to buy milk, eggs, etc with a 2 minute walk from your front door. \n\n\nBy definition most corner markets have like... 2 adjacent houses and serve something on the order of a few hundred houses so I think they can manage to find two people that don't mind living adjacent to it.", ">I feel like this will apply less and less the more work we do online.\n\n...what? More people staying home and doing work from home instead of commuting every day will somehow make it less useful to have stores near homes rather than far away from homes... what? \n\n\nOnline shopping is a good point but it's an equally valid point for supermarkets and all physical retail and physical retail is a 5 trillion dollar a year industry in the US so... maybe jumping the gun a bit on that one.", "dude with a mcmansion isnt getting delivery trucks every day at 7 am and serving customers until 2 am, thats why", "Most large neighborhoods need a family doctor, dentist and chemist too. These zoning laws are specifically designed to keep lower income families out.", "I wouldn't want to live next to any business. I get how it would be a plus for some people and a non issue for others. We all have our own tastes.", "Right but it's ILLEGAL for other people to enjoy a corner store because a small number of people might not want to live next to one the combination of which is very unlikely and resolvable.", "they’re designed so my suburban town doesn’t look like LA or SF", ">smaller/closer grocery stores\n\nThis is literally what the video is about and it's illegal in most places. \n\n> Groups of neighborhoods can now have grocery stores every couple miles\n\nNo, they can't that's the entire subject of the video. Did you watch it?\n\nEven gas stations are generally not allowed in these neighborhoods. You don't seem to have understood the video at all. Further whether or not this is strictly needed is not the point. The point is that it's illegal and it shouldn't be because it's useful and desired.", "New York doesn’t do this and it’s a nice mix of people", "uhhh nyc was one of the first cities in america to introduce zoning tf you talking about", "People loiter outside them - I live in queens, lots of corner stores right outside… I like having them there but some corner stores you will get the skells/drunks /lowlifes just hanging out many hours of the day. I think a lot of it depends on the owner and the location, but it’s a real downside to them esp in a dense environment or lower Income areas.", "Who doens't enjoy having a big house with a big garden with nice neighbours with equally big houses. It's quiet and peaceful and they call it the suburbs. Play sports in your back garden or use a spare bedroom as a home gym.\n\nI get nervous when people say this type of living is \"the problem\". I feel it's the best kind of living!", "Zoning in America is straight-up retarded in most places. Everyone that's played just a bit of Cities Skylines knows that mixed districts are _the best_.\n\nIt helps SO much with car traffic if you mix and match buildings and zones, making everyone happier and areas more valuable.\n\nIn Switzerland, I live a 10-minute walk away from my job, and right across my place is a supermarket. It's so fucking convenient.", "You could have just said I didn't watch listen to or understand the video. Yes it IS ILLEGAL. you can keep blathering on but you look retarded.", "I think suburbs can exist, while we can still have a more urban and convenient way of living. A way where you don't need a car to do anything outside your house.", "Every paragraph shows your lack of understanding. Congrats you are proud tard.", "The entire car dependent zoning is dumb as hell. Netherlands does it right and even with the criticism of their area being reclaimed land, so its nice and flat for biking, doesn't hold water with modern bikes. A cheap hub motor makes hills feels non existent", ">\twhy do other people get a say? If I build a mcmansion, none of my neighbors get a say in the slightest even if its next door. \n\nThere are plenty of rules about building residential houses on residential lots. Can’t just buy a lot and build whatever crazy house you want. \n\n\n\n>\tWhy is selling sandwiches different?\n\nEarly AM deliveries. \n\nDespite what the video says, some people will still drive, so harder for you to park at your home\n\nMore cars = more noise \n\nMore people walking by = more noise \n\nPeople loitering/homeless \n\npeople loitering right outside your house = more noise \n\nPeople buying sandwiches at night are probably drunk. Don’t want drunk people sitting and eating a sandwich on my front steps. \n\nStores have bright lights and signs outside = annoying. \n\nThey probably have a dumpster so more files and homeless and rodents. \n\nEmptying a dumpster is also loud. \n\nMore people infront of my house means packages may get stolen", "These videos are always from people that enjoy living in a crowded city, with no yards, and no cars. They think everyone wants what they like. I'll stick to my house in the suburbs with a big yard for my kids to play in and drive to the supermarket a few minutes away where items aren't overpriced like they are in corner stores.", "Right thought but you are assuming the neighborhood never changes. What if the two shop friendly neighbors move out and two shop unfriendly people move in?\n\nOr how do you add a shop to a town to that already exists? And it's not just the two neighbors. The folks across the street will complain the store's lights will be too bright. The folks down the street will complain the shop is too noisy. Etc. Etc.", "That type of housing is fine. But when it's a 2 mile journey from your back-garden to the back-garden adjoining yours (which is a legit case in one Florida suburb), something's gone wrong. Especially if that's 2 miles lacks footpaths and any form of grocery shop.\n\nDublin/Ireland is full of suburbs with much denser building. A 2-bed home will be maybe 1000 sq ft. It will have a front and back yard - but usually there's another house stuck to each side, so you can't walk from front to back. And within 10min walk, there will be a strip-mall. You won't need to cross a road larger than 4 lanes to get to the strip. There will be pedestrian lights or other easy ways to get there by foot.\n\nThe idea that a strip-mall (or just a corner store) is illegal in most residential areas outside of downtown is crazy.", "Every one of those things is just the fact of \"living near another person\". If you don't want that, move to a rural area, don't block it for everybody else", "Why should it be illegal to have a store in your neighborhood that you can walk to?", "No, they're designed for middle-income and up. Greenlining, HOAs and deed covenants, A1 zoning, etc.\n\nThey require you to use a car, and exclude lower income families/individuals. Mostly by design, but partly by legacy.\n\n[I grew up near here, in a suburb of Dublin. It was built in the early 80's](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.389185,-6.3123866,3a,75y,96.38h,100.9t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sUlH3ICSnwy060N_xw2e5PQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192). BIG church (because there's lots of houses nearby), a small strip of shops, and tonnes of dense but still single-family homes. Green spaces, too.", "Nothings wrong with having that type of housing. It shouldnt be illegal to have mixed use zoning neighbourhoods as it is in a lot of NA, especially in inner-suburbs.", "No. Most of these are pretty specific to living next to a store. \n\nhomes don’t have a dumpster. (Smell, rodents,homeless, noise) \n\nhomes don’t have people coming and going at all hours. Or people loitering outside \n\nhomes don’t have bright lights and signs on the outside \n\n homes don’t have commercial deliveries early in the morning.", "I disagree. \n\nhomes don’t have a dumpster. (Smell, rodents,homeless, noise)\n-yes they do, often they have garbage cans which are overfilled, less frequently cleaned and maintained, and attract the pests you mentioned. Residential neighborhoods are also often prime territory for homeless collecting cans, and they get them straight from your trash can. \n\nhomes don’t have people coming and going at all hours. Or people loitering outside \n-entirely dependent on your neighbors themselves. I have lived next to very social people who often had five or more guests on a given night. No rules against it, so I don't see how this adds up. Smokers standing outside or people taking phone calls, front porch gatherings or backyard barbecues with loud music and drinking, and lots of lights. Doesn't seem very different. \n\nhomes don’t have bright lights and signs on the outside \n-I'm assuming you don't have any neighbors who put up holiday decorations and lights? I lived next to someone who had such an obnoxious Christmas display every year they are on the news and had cars lining up down the street nightly. Same for Halloween, and a few other holidays. So this doesn't hold water. \n\nhomes don’t have commercial deliveries early in the morning. \n-no, however they do frequently have Amazon deliveries, water services, utility services, landscapers, garbage collection, recycling collection, and a host of other issues. These basically even out with what most actual corner stores might experience. What's more, these residential nuisances can happen at any time during a day, or on weekends, whereas small corner stores typically have a much more tightly regimented schedule for these things. \n\nIn sum, what it sounds like you're arguing is that there are problems that you see through your own lens as unique to a small corner store in a neighborhood, when in fact they're just different iterations of the same things you deal with in residential only neighborhoods.", "The biggest issue is culture. People have gotten used to having no stores in their neighbourhoods. Try this: ask a suburbanite if they think a commercial unit on the corner of their street sounds like a good idea. They'll likely say no. \n\nThen show them an example of a corner store, which doesn't have crazy parking issues, or ruining the neighbourhood, and ask them if they think that's a problem. They'll say, no, this one is fine. \n\nAlso them if they'd be okay with that in their neighbourhood and they may say \"Sure, but it could lead or bad problems if it wasn't the right kind of store\". Here in lies the problem. Convincing suburbanites that 95% of their concerns aren't true. They are creating subconscious fears of a boodgeyman corner store creating crime or traffic, or parking issues on their street.", "Because that's what the people who live in those neighborhoods prefer.", "What drives me crazy is that the same people who oppose this stuff will go on vacations to beach towns, mountain towns, to Europe, and have a blast! They'll gush about how fun it was, how charming everything was, etc. Not realizing that a big part of what makes those towns so charming and fun is that mixed use design and walkability", ">\tThey are creating subconscious fears of a boodgeyman corner store creating crime or traffic, or parking issues on their street\n\nBut that’s based on the assumption that these stores don’t have this type of problem. I don’t think people with 800k homes want a 7-11 next door.", "One thing that wasn't mentioned is mixed use for the building itself. Building a store will displace the residential unit(s) where where the store is built, but not if the building is designed to contain a street-level shop (or shops) and apartments on a second storey, or a single-family suite that might be occupied by shopkeeper and their family.", "New York just lost Kmart. I was surprised, because I thought that would be the one place that Kmart could hold on -- but going INTO a NYC Kmart it became abundantly clear why they failed. \n\nThey made zero attempt to cater to the Manhattan crowd -- they carried the same exact stuff that the suburban K-Marts carried down to kits for 15 foot above ground pools. \n\nOh yeah lots of people setting up 15 foot, 4 foot deep above ground pool in Manhattan.\n\nThat's when it became clear to me that K-Mart is going out of business on purpose.\n\nThey also only had a very limited grocery section -- even though the K-Mart in my hometown had a huge grocery section", "Por que no los dos?\n\nI like having a nice yard and a corner store in walking distance. \n\nI grew up somewhere where everyone had to drive for everything and it was a pain in the ass. I don't want to go on a one hour journey for toilet paper.", "Is it though?", "Most of these people don't go to Europe.", "I agree. \n\nIn my home town they got the permission of residents to change zoning to build a small corner grocery. People were for the idea. \n\nOf course it turned out the politician and developer were lying and they turned around and built and entire shopping center complete with bars and fast food", "Have you been to a city...? You think letting a doctor set up in your neighborhood is going to make your cul-de-sac look like San Francisco?", "Allowing for higher density in R1 doesn't solve a housing problem. That sounds tremendously stupid. That just how you make the human living condition more miserable. It's like the neighborhoods I house shop in that have 8 cars in their driveway and 3 families living in the house. That would just be great if it was everywhere!", "Local zoning laws reflect the desires of local residents. \n\nWhen developers initially zone new areas, they are doing it based on what potential buyers will want in their neighborhood. If people wanted them to be zoned differently, those developers would change the way they zoned the land.", "I've been to many cities with corner stores on side streets in residential neighbourhoods. Toronto, Hamilton, Amsterdam, Rotterdam, Brussels, Pittsburgh, Los Angeles. \n\nAll of these cities had $800,000 homes next to a cafe, convenience store or small wine bar. The problem is that people do want a 7-11 next door, but there are other people making assumptions about what other people want. \n\nAnytime there is a a new condo building proposed in my city. People come out to the public meeting and say \"I wouldn't want to live here\". Cool. Don't buy a unit here. Thousands of people are interested in living there though. So long as it doesn't have any significant issues, then it should be allowed. \n\nNorth America has a white list style zoning as someone else mentioned, and the rest of the world has a black list style. North America says \"This can be built and nothing else\" vs \"Anything can be built, except for this\". \n\nThe rest of the world is doing fine, and North America is not. This video doesn't touch on it, but the environmental, tax revenue, and lifestyle consequences of this North American style zoning is beginning to come to roost. We are starting to recognize that sprawl can't cover the immense cost to maintain that sprawl, we are recognizing that driving 5 minutes for carton of milk is insane, and that giving people zero options without a car sucks and leaves people who cannot or don't want to drive without options.", "That's as close as ideal as we've got I think. Street-level shops with apartments above.", "Propagandists convinced people in a neighborhood in my hometown that allowing an Aldi to open would bring \"bad\" people to the neighborhood, now everyone loves the Aldi. \n\nPeople don't know what they want they just have knee jerk reactions", "I mean from a mathematically perspective more housing means more housing.\n\n>It's like the neighborhoods I house shop in that have 8 cars in their driveway and 3 families living in the house.\n\nAnd having more housing so each family could live on their own is...bad?", "I don't need a propagandist to tell me anything. I am one of the residents who lives in a big house in a suburb, and I most certainly don't want stores coming into my local neighborhood.", "What would happen if on your arterial road there was a small grocery and cafe?", "1. It would be irrelevant because we already have two grocery stores in the vicinity, both ~3-4 driving distance.\n\n2. There would be an increase in traffic in an area that is heavily populated by kids playing outside, creating safety concerns.\n\n3. Increases potential for homelessness \n\n4. Increases litter", "Your kids play on the arterial road? \n\nWhy would there be an increase in traffic? Do people were you live not go to the store? \n\nIf everyone had a local grocery store they could walk to why would they drive to your neighborhood to get milk? \n\nSee this is what I'm talking about -- your reaction is a kneejerk reaction you haven't even thought through", "It's no knee jerk, and I have though it through. You just have a different opinion and likely don't live in a suburb.\n\n* A suburb arterial road are usually low traffic, and yes kids play on them. If you are talking about the roads immediately outside the suburb, grocery stores are already built there.\n\n* There would be increased traffic as cars would be driving within the community to that specific location. It would create parking issues, and the danger of cars parking/backing up with kids playing in the area.\n\n* Most people wouldn't walk to the grocery store unless it was a 1 or 2 minute walk. It's still convenient to drive a car.", "> Local zoning laws reflect the desires of local residents.\n\nThe problem is the amount of subsidies such living requires. This quiet suburban living you hold up as an example is massively dependent on arterial roads and highways going through other people's neighborhoods. If those neighborhoods passed local zoning laws that reflected the \"desires of local residents\" in their neighborhoods, the suburbs would use the state government to override local control in a heartbeat.", "That's no what a subsidy is. \n\nAll living, regardless of where it is located, requires government infrastructure and maintenance of that system in order to stay functioning. Whether that be roads, pipes, transit, etc.", "It's an implicit subsidy. It's a cost being borne by a third party that is not being compensated for it.", ">What if the two shop friendly neighbors move out and two shop unfriendly people move in?\n\nWhy would someone who hates living next to a shop move in next to a shop? \n\n\nFor noise most towns already have noise ordinances, if it's too loud it'll get shut down. Same for electric signage, a lot of towns have rules against certain lighting and electric signage usage. Obviously no one is going to allow bright lights and neon signs in a small neighborhood.", "By that definition, everything involving the government is a subsidy -- including all forms of housing.\n\nUrban housing is massively dependent on public transit and roads that also go through other people's neighborhoods.", "If people are already driving to the store to get stuff, them not having to drive as far -- or walk even -- is LESS traffic", "I grew up in the east sf bay area, Oakland and Hayward. The corner stores were absolutely a cornerstone of the community. Granted some of the areas weren't the greatest but we had access to snacks and drinks at all hours. Some of them even had fresh cooked food. Burritos, sandwiches, you name it. One place in Richmond even had NY style garbage plates until 5am, after that they geared up for breakfast.", "They drive to a store outside the neighborhood from all different directions.\n\nIf a grocery store was in the neighborhood, they would all be driving to the same place within the neighborhood. That creates traffic inside the community.", "Funnily enough, that church (which I think was one of the largest in Ireland when built) recently shut down due to lack of attendance. In a major suburb of the highly-Catholic Ireland.", "You realize that to drive to get groceries now, every person in your neighborhood is already driving through your neighborhood right?", "Yes, that's the general idea", "They all drive from different starting points, and most of them do it on their way home from work anyways so it's not noticeable.\n\nIf it's in the middle of the neighborhood, the closer you get to the grocery store the higher the traffic will be." ]	70	videos	Every neighborhood should have a corner store—but can't
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XosNl879i-M	/r/videos/comments/rc84wf/man_invades_the_field_during_a_womens/	[ "those are the rules its the same with mens football.", "She did what apparently the large penguin-walking security gentleman wouldn’t", "Not her job. Them's the rules.", "Solid check though. I love the crowd's reaction", "Perfect execution of an AFL hip and shoulder charge. Worth the card.", "i don't like it, but probably because they don't want the players getting sued or injured. they'd rather have the security guards getting sued or injured instead.", "\"GET OFF YOU CUNT!\"\n\nI love the British.", "At least she's not in the US, so she just gets a yellow card instead of a lawsuit.", "It's in Chelsea bro", "Bruh that is a fucking insult to Australians, what the actual fuck cunt", "She used to play didn't she, like the rest of her family?", "Destroys? She took like a ten step running start and did about as much damage as a puppy knocking over a toddler.", "Worth it", "Security is trained, you can prove they were trained, thus when dragged to court they can say they were trained and followed procedure. Procedure usually follows legal guidelines. Thus not an issue.", "I think she actually got pretty lucky here. I have seen a player get a red card for a very similar situation before, and I think that is sill what the rules demand. Unless the rules got changed.", "Az Alkhmar v Ajax about 10 years ago. An Ajax fan attacked the AZ goalie. The goalie defended himself and the ref sent off the goalie. The AZ manager took his team off the pitch and refused to play on. \n\n\nThe card was later overturned.", "She baaaad. I like her.", "Doing Simmo proud", "I think the man chanting \"wanker\" was mine there", "Everyone’s a cunt nowadays, women included", "Not sure, but highly likely. Particularly given that mint application. He bounced and she barely moved.", "Shoulder checked him straight into the dirt, the technique was flawless. Fuckin 10/10", "Yaaaaaaaaay", "[Video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-uMHbN-5us) So guy charges field and jumps kick at the goalie, goalie kicks back. Red card. Cool. Good on the coach!", "The Symonds hit. NSFW\n\nhttps://youtu.be/706552WGY5M?t=38 \n\n0:38", "The most exciting thing to happen in Women's soccer, amiright?", "What does a yellow card do?", "Clearly she's playing in England mate. I don't think she was the one shouting..", "Why would you ever go on a field and have a kicking match with a guy who's entire profession revolves around kicking things and jumping in front of kicked things?", "A warning before an ejection", "A quick search finds that she did indeed play AFL until she was 12. She was probably a gun at that too.", "What’s with the downvotes? You’re absolutely right, resorting to violence on the pitch is forbidden to players, and she went and engaged with him, there was no case of self defense", "Same people who see a game going on and decide to make it all about them.", "This might be a dumb question but does the referee have an earpiece and backup refs on the sideline?\n\n\nWhat happens if he is looking at one end and a player at the other end knocks out an opponent? Can he go to review or does he just have to guess what happened?\n\n\nWith this one, we don't know what he saw, I guess. If it was just the spectator on the ground and the goalie running up and laying in the boot.", "They do now, and have been having those for quite a while now. But 10y ago the ref all the decision authority. If he thought it was a red card, it was a red card. Now with the VAR, there’s some other party that can overrule the ref.", "Her brother was an elite AFL (Australian Rules Football) player. In the AFL this move is called a hip and shoulder. She definitely learned it from playing AFL as a kid", "alcohol", "does that ref hate women? what the fuck?", "What I'm wondering is why she didn't get high-fives from every other woman on the turf. Where is the unity?", "This rules should be reviewed and those security must be replaced.", "The goalie kept laying into the guy after he was on the ground. That is no longer self defense and is now vengeance.", "No it's pretty good actually. Also, it's called football", "The goalie kept laying into the guy after he was on the ground, at that point it's no longer self defense and now becomes vengeance.", "Super necessary", "what was the ref saying at the end of the video, during the press conference?", "Yes. And the problem is? You want want to give him a chance to stand up, catch his breath and give him another opportunity to do an attack on you without any warning? Or was his first unwarranted attack, without warning, not sufficient reason for you to kick him whilst he was down and stayed down? It is a couple of kicks, not a bullet to the brain.", "never seen this happen in a womens game but men usually get a red card when hitting (even though it's deserved) a pitch invader", "I've never been to a game, so I really shouldn't comment. \n\n\nSoccer in America, so...", "How many warnings?\n\nThen i guess they wave another color if you do something else?", "Shoulder to shoulder there, don't see much in that.", "Yeah, the guy was already walking off the pitch when she blind side hit him. Obviously he wasn't supposed to be there in the first place, but there's no justification for a player physically engaging a fan in a situation like that.", "That's between the goalie and the guy who attacked him, unless there is a relevant rule I don't know about.", "Babies might call it gooble but that doesn't change its name.", "Two yellows means you get sent off, a red card would mean instant sending off", "Not so much overrule during the game, but give the ref a chance to see what they saw in slow motion.\n\nCards can be overruled / appealed after the fact by committee.", "Wait till he gets attacked by the guy on the floor with somone on top of him?", "The crowd are British...we use cunt as freely as Aussies", "LOL. The quality of that stewarding", "And yet he only kicked him in the legs. The guy is lucky he didn't get studs to the face, and I would still be defending the keeper.", "the idea was already in their head, the alcohol made it possible.", "She literally stalks him like a lion stalking a gazelle at the end. \n\nGreat video and Sam is a class footballer who scored an amazing goal at the weekend", "Come on, that was a love tap.", "Maybe not as freely, but pretty freely.", "Since all the ads around the stadium were in English, at first I thought the commentators were speaking some kind of heavily accented English…it took a good 30 seconds before I was sure it definitely wasn’t.", "and then there's the fact there is a whole damn team down there. Watching football fights are like watching Cassowaries fight. That is pretty scary since I had to look up the spelling of its name and just looked up \"big ass murder bird\".", "Aussie, oi.", "He actually cut her a solid. He could have given her a red.", "The guy is an absolute prick but that doesn't give her the right to get physical. \nHe did not threaten any of them, he was just a nuisance . \nAnyone cheering this on is a immature moron.", "That he understood the commotion but that this was the rule and he was only applying the rules and that that is his job, so dont chalk it up to him but to the rules", "Thanks for the video, and good on the coach. Turned out to be the right decision in the end. You have to wonder if they had VAR back then, would the ruling have been overturned right there and then.", "Malice at the Palace taught us that no matter how bad fans act, it's always the players that get the most scrutiny.\n\nMetta Sandiford-Artest did punch a guy that had nothing to do with throwing the cup though so that was pretty fucked up.", "If you look closely, the ref is a woman, too.", "Actually it's her place of work and he's trespassing and interfering with it so I'd say she's well within her right to level the cunt.", "If someone has the balls to run on the field of a major league game specifically to assault someone, I can't blame the person attacked for continuing to lay in. Who the fuck knows what the attacker might do or if they've snuck a weapon in or something.", "I’m sorry but she literally went to the guy to do this. 10/10 unprofessional. Yea the cunt shouldn’t have been there obviously but still that’s not right.", "After she did security’s job for them by stopping the pitch invader, they somehow still manage to let him get up and get away again. Mind blowing.", "Do you think he would be able to press some type of charge? Imagine if he fucked up his neck or something ?", "Everyone thinking it but not saying it. This happens in the prem and player is sent off immediately.", "Mike Dean?\n\nr/fuckmikedean", "My question is: When it's men's teams playing, people that run into the field are tackled in seconds. So, what was the deal here? Was security like, \"Give him a minute....let's see where this goes.\" ?", "Yep. Same with doing something shitty when drunk. Drinking didn't \"make\" you do it, just gave you the excuse you wanted.", "When I played (obviously not professionally!), anything that entered the field was technically a part of the field. Dog came on the field, ball ricocheted, fair play. Off the Ref? Fair play. Someone steps on, fair play. GTFO of the way.\n\nSo what's the penalty? She ran into a part of the field. Like a divot, or a pot hole.", "I notice that when someone posts a video that perhaps has copyrighted content, it quickly gets taken down when posted on Reddit. Are there bots here scanning those videos or are users just flagging the videos?\n\n[Found a different video of it](https://youtu.be/tQkM8Hz1WOI)\n\n[Footage of the actual attack](https://youtu.be/YDmhucyS6EM?t=159)", "English has had loads of influence from Dutch. Holland was a major cultural center during the Renaissance, there were Dutch teachers and scribes in English universities, etc. It's why \"laugh\" is spelled as it is and not \"laff\".", "sam dealt with it, wp", "Wouldn't be unprecedented.\n\nI mean, if someone trespasses onto your property but they're peacefully leaving on their own accord, you aren't allowed to do whatever you want to them until they step off your lawn. There's pretty narrow circumstances where you're allowed to hit someone, and this definitely doesn't qualify.", "She’s a player. The pitch isn’t hers. Idk I hate it when the boys do shit like this as well. Y’all are professional athletes don’t let you anger get to to you.", "\"PLAY ON\"", "I strongly feel that he should have received the red card and kept it. He kicked a person who was on the ground and already held down by security. That is the lowest of the lows . No matter what the other guy did, when someone is on the grond, you have won, fight is over. This kick is just petty, sad and honestly just makes this goalie look like a little kid.", "No one can overrule the ref, VAR can just advise them.", "It's just a matter of when security managed to catch them.\n\nSometimes the pitch runners don't plan so they jump on right in front of security, Sometimes they wait until they have a little distance to work with.\n\nAlso some people are faster than others", "Ref was biased. No way was that first attack not a penalty.", "Absolutely not. Anyone crazy enough to charge at a player on the field is crazy enough to do other things eg carry a knife. If someone is charging at you and fell to the ground you'd be damn sure to make sure they stay on the ground.", "I 1000000 percent agree. I just don’t think it was her place to do this downvote me all you want.", "Destroys? With a shoulder barge? I mean.. I applaud her taking action because the pitch invader clearly doesn't have more than a couple of brain cells.. but when it said DESTROYS I was expecting a clothesline or something, not a shove :)", "A calculated risk by someone bad at maths.", "You're an idiot. The only unprofessional person in the video was the security who was casually strolling until the girl decided to do something. The incident wouldn't have happened if the security adequately did their job.", "Lol so her knocking in to the kid as he’s leaving is her doing his job. Get fucked.", "That's what I mean, even a homeowner doesn't have the right to assault an intruder on their property, so her position would be even weaker legally.\n\nThe dude was an asshole for running into the field, but the world is full of assholes and we usually aren't allowed to hit them.", "? What indication do you have that he's leaving? He seems to me to only be avoiding the security guy. \n\nYou should probably get fucked as you're the type of shithead who don't do your job properly then shit on others for doing it, ay?", "r/iamverybadass. Australian national subreddit.", "YASASSASS SLAAAAY QEEEN SLAAAAAYYYYUTYYYYY 👑👸♀️🏃‍♀️🚺", "Have you seen the video? What the fuck are you talking about guy??? Get fucked ay.", "Blocked in my country.\n\nI'm from the country this happened in.", "Subfuckingscribed. \n\nAlso, Mike Dean hates footballers, but Martin Atkinson hates football.", "Ya the video shows the shithead taking a pic and fiddling away from the casual security guy while all the women on the field is yelling at the shithead to get off the field. Now what the fuck are you talking about, fuck face? \n\nEdit: a girl pushed the shithead right at the beginning too, so multiple girls doing the security guys job. Look at you being useless", "Yup, this is a red card.", "Oh boy your fucking hilarious we can do this all night. HE WAS CLEARLY WALKING/JOGGING AWAY WHEN THE LADY BLINDSIDES HIM. Was that clear enough for your tiny fucking pea brain?", "Not away from field, away from security. Sorry you are talking to someone with twice as much brain cells so using those pathetic attempts of insults just make you look silly", "She deserves a medal", "Was that her brother ‘Wayne Kerr’?", "Did you keep talking about your brain cells like your some savant. Talking about your IQ over the internet is fucking stupid. IQ test don’t mean shit either way. Goodnight Johnny IQ.", "\"IQ test don't mean shit\" says some autistic brain-dead vegetable. \n\nDon't blame me cause you can't graduate primary school, blame your parents for shit genes", "Soccer is short for association football. Association = assoc = soccer. \n\nIt's called both. Get the fuck.", "Hahaha your insults are fucking hilarious. You sound about 15.", "Don't project your prepubescent brain on me, you swine", "What was she thinking? Well deserved card. Let security handle that.", "Jesus now your starting to sound like supervillain.", "Whew worried there for a sec. I though Mike Dean the record producer who's amazing on synths.", "Why cause you've been watching cartoons all day? It's bedtime you underdeveloped freakshow", "While he might be charged with trespassing or the sort, won't he be able to report her for assault? He wasn't a threat and was taking a selfie. \nWhile I understand wanting to kick him out, it isn't her job, and she is putting her ass (legally) on the line for hitting him.", "You are really exaggerating how \"held down by security\" he was when he gave him the last kick, the security guy was barely over top of the guy and he did not have him held down. He was not under control for that last kick and I would still regard him as a threat to get back up. As soon as security actually is on top of him and has him under control the keeper backs off and he only kicked him twice. \n\nAnd did you watch the whole video to see how that guy game at the goalie? He tried to do a flying kick into him, dude is lucky he got off with a couple kicks to the legs. In the heat of the moment when someone has attacked you I don't think what he did deserved that red card at all and was not petty in the least, dude defended himself from someone that tried to attack him from behind. Lowest of the lows? Give me a break.", "He's not misusing his power, the rules dictate it's a red card", "Yeah that was a great one. Guy deserved it..", "Them security lumbering behind like waddling penguins", ">what the other guy did, when someone is on the grond, you have won, fight is over. \n\nany injury or exhaustion the goalie accumulated during the encounter disadvantages him and goalie is still playing vs. the other team who had no disadvantage.\n\ndoubt you can call that “already won.” goalie only lost", "To be fair, this was pretty much attempted murder. I have seen enough football, or soccer as the British prefer to call it, to know that the correct way to take down a male human on the field is a light tap on the back or shoulder area.\nLuckily the man was not a professional soccerer, or they would have had to pick up giblets for weeks after that savage display!\n\n/s btw.. sort of.", "They actually have a rule saying players can't fight back if they're attacked in the middle of a game by a spectator running on the field? How often does that happen? Lol", "I cant believe people want to give the player a card for dealing with a moron. If security are so inept that they cant fix the problem this is what happens.", "Incorrect, if security chased him he would run around causing a bigger scene, they only ran when she knocked him over because he was down and they had a chance to catch him before he got up again. Security are not athletes, they'd probably be outrun easily and out of breathe in 5 seconds of sprinting after the guy.\n\nShe acted unprofessionally, if she shoulder barged another player in the same manner, same treatment, a card. I do commend her on taking action however wrong it is, it is just one of those things sadly.", "\"gets dropped hard\"", "Those Aussies definitely have a way with words. \"Oh mate, check out this new move I came up with for the footies! I use me hip and shoulder to knock em down!\" \"What do you call it?\"", "That’s still self defense. In the Netherlands there is a clause called ‘noodweerexces’ which basically means you are not punishable for overstepping the boundaries of necessary self defense when severe emotions are involved. Suddenly being kicked from behind during a football match by a spectator is surely something that would rattle your bones.", "Dude, I got into a fight with a kid in High School on the bus. Was a friend of mine who was just pissing me off. So, to stop me from hitting him he laid on his back in the seat. When I went to get off, I walked around to the seat to hit him and he kicked me straight in my thigh as hard as he could. Dude was an amazing soccer player and let me tell you, could kick.\n\nIt was one of those \"I'M SO FUCKING ANGRY AND\" \\kicked\\ \"NOPE! Abandon this shit, I'm getting off the bus\" moments.", "Pssh, Sea Germans. English is a west Germanic language and shares much with Dutch, German, etc. All of Europe shared teachers and scribes. Companies that had more lucrative business just could afford more...", "The fact that Australians have recently come to the conclusion that they're the only ones to freely use cunt as both an insult and term of endearment, when the English and Scottish (especially the weegies) have already been doing that for generations, is the real insult. \n\nAustralia is basically just Britain if it was located 20 feet from the sun, lads.", "Nah see it was clearly her brother, Wayne Kerr.", "\"dropped hard\"? ehhh.. he barely fell over. Is it so cool that a woman harms a man that you have to exaggerate lmao?", ">with somone on top of him?\n\n??? Last kick lands before security person even touches the guy, then he immediately backs off.", "often enough that they have a rule for it. The rule basically is you can not hit someone who invades the field. Which happens so often that they have this rule and is why the woman in OP's video got a yellow card and this guy got a red card for doing it. It is a very stupid rule that FIFA thinks will stop fights from happening between players and the fans but instead makes it so that fans can run around the field and the players can not help security to stop them", "If I understood correctly then the rule seems the be that \"a violent action taken by a player results in a red card\". And kicking someone, even if they kicked you first, is a violent action.", "Allahu Alkhmar", "I have played both Aussie rules and soccer, they are very different techniques. She is doing the AFL version which is a side on charge and uses your hip as a huge part of the force. The soccer version of protecting yourself and your space with your shoulder OR hip isn't this.", "I mean, they were busy selling this video to Dutch broadcasters at the time so the owners of the rights requested to get it blocked locally. They didn't really care about the rest of the world because that didn't cost them any money.", "Nah fuck off cunt. You can't just call us scorched British cunts, bc that would be saying the truth and we would be offended and call you cunts.", "challenge accepted!", "That's usually the case. Happens a lot in the UK as well.", "Don't expect me to watch the videos mate. What is this, a video Subreddit?", "I think they prefer the term Swamp Germans. It goes with all the guttural noises they make when they talk", "nah, fuck around and find out. He fucked around, entered a space where he wasn't supposed to be, and suffered the consequences. If he's too fragile to deal with it, then he's too fragile to be out in public.", "To be fair, in the past they'd also consult their linesmen in case they saw something (assistant referees these days).", "Sure guess your right.", "I think it's fucked up to penalize a player for self defense but also I understand a FIFA ref not wanting to run afoul of that mafia of an organization by not enforcing the rules enough lol", "Brilliant...look at the dumbfuck still prancing about with his phone after being told to go... entitled shit", "> This is quite literally one of the few legal contacts you can have in the sport except the other person in this situation would have a ball and would charge back so neither would fall.\n\nyeah mate if you execute an AFL bump if they're charging at you and try to take it they're going to get obliterated. You literally cannot stay on your feet if someone properly executes a hip and shoulder on you and you're moving. Its a huge difference from the soccer version.", "Maybe security are trained to deal with people a certain way for good reasons. Like if this got overserved alcohol then there could be a lawsuit if he gets injured at the very least.", "\"we don't know if it's a boy or a girl\"\n\n\"It's a boy\"\n\nMotherfucker that's a whole ass man lmao", "Should've gotten red actually.", "Most people watching this shit just want to see violence. You’re not wrong that it wasn’t her place and that security receives training to deal with shit like this and she doesn’t. There are many good reasons to not do what she did.", "I realize that everyone hates this answer, but that should probably be the rules, no?\n\nLike, let's put aside the fact that it's a soccer field. Dude's being a dick, in a place he's not supposed to be. If I'm in an office and hip and shoulder check someone trespassing in the office, knocking them to the ground, I've committed assault, no? Can the people writing office policy condone such an action? Or is there a strict \"No attacking people, even if they're disrupting your work\" policy? \n\nWhat makes a soccer field any different?", "Good on that manager.", "bro what does kicking the guy give the goalie ? are you mentally ill? He kicked a person on the ground, what the fuck does it matter what the other guy did???? \n\nAre we cavemen who demand eye for an eye??? jesus people", "> Let me get this straight. You think that your employer, one of the richest men in the world, is spending his nights running around the city beating criminals to a pulp with his bare hands? And your plan is to blackmail him? Good luck.", "Something similar happened to Eran Zahavi and he got a red card for even less\n\n[Video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjX9zif8qkk)", " Every time I see an athlete do something like this immediately my mind goes to the malice at the palace. I just think it’s trashy as fuck when PRO athletes do this.", ">It's why \"laugh\" is spelled as it is and not \"laff\". \n\nWhat?? If anything \"laff\" (or rather \"laf\") would be how you'd spell it in Dutch.", "jesus christ.. yeah man lets go all in then, death penalty for muderers and cutting of thieves hands. Weirdo ass reddit nerds who haven't had a fight in their lifes, trying to defend kicking a man on the ground. Clowns, all of you", "you seem to be really labouring this point but they are two different things. One is for clearing a path for yourself, one is for taking someone out of the play and possibly the game https://youtu.be/go39S3z-zr4", "u/GivePLZ-DoritosChip just for your benefit, the kind of bump that u/PetrifyGWENT is referring to looks more like [this](https://youtu.be/ikrsPoxoeRs?t=58)", "That's a quality bit of timing, right out of the middle", "insured yes, trained, it depends heavily", "I love me a good boycott and a team that sticks together. Stopping the play with decision like that being dished out was the right way to go, great coach!", "> C) Can just turn on the TV and watch the English Premier League for 5 minutes and see this 10 times but are still so stubborn.\n\nBuddy I strongly suggest you watch some AFL highlights and look at the difference lol. \n\n\nAs I said, I've literally played both sports, you have played one, they are different techniques. \n\nSoccer is not a contact sport, you are not designing your bump to take people out.\n AFL is a contact sport, you are designing your bump to take people out, they are very different.", "Nah that would be Daniel https://youtu.be/YCATu3BlMpU", "His name's Daniel, but yeah... he is one.", "Yeah actually I looked it up because it sounded weird to me as well, and it turns out I remembered it wrong. It's likely that the reason why you say laff, tuff, enuff in English is due to Dutch influence, those used to be a hard H and got changed to F over the years. But the spelling has always been ch or gh.", "Is this at Cherry Red, the old home of AFC Wimbledon?", "Not familiar with the rules of soccer. Are refs forced to call every single penalty they see, 100% of the time? There is no room for judgement?\n\nSeems a weird way to run a sport.", "There's certainly room for judgement but only so far as the rules permit. That's how every professional sport is run. Too much subjectivity from the referee and you run into all sorts of problems.\n\nThe card was overturned after the fact which I'm sure is what the referee who issued it wanted.", "I read the title as drop kicked and was kinda disappointed", "Maybe it's the increased traffic that causes youtube to look into the video in question more?", "Definitely the wrong decisions from her. Extremely unprofessional and potentially going to cause far more harm than just letting the knobhead leave the pitch with the stewards. It's right there on camera that she attacked someone who was no threat to her. He is an idiot but doesn't mean you can just bodycheck someone who does something you don't agree with.", "Definitely the wrong decisions from her. Extremely unprofessional and potentially going to cause far more harm than just letting the knobhead leave the pitch with the stewards. It's right there on camera that she attacked someone who was no threat to her. He is an idiot but doesn't mean you can just bodycheck someone who does something you don't agree with.", "You really expected players to burn a bloke to death after beating them with a shove and to only get a Yellow card for it?", "So I take it you didn't watch the video long enough to see the initial attack then? It was all over in like 5 seconds, stop acting like he kicked the crap out of a guy that wasn't defending himself, it was two kicks both of which were perfectly justified to me. Once the guy was actually under control he stopped.\n\nAlso what are you on about the death penalty and cutting off hands, relax, thankfully everyone walked away from this including the asshole that tried to assault someone from behind. Maybe have less sympathy for the guy that would have happily kicked the goalie in the back if he hadn't turned around in time, no one is saying they guy should be beat half to death but a couple kicks is the least of what would happen to that jackass if he pulled that shit at a bar. He got off lucky.", "Where the fuck was the security team?", "ofc its the same, kick for kick, death for death. That's your point isnt it? clowns", "She took one look at the yellow card and was like \"eh, worth\"", "I mean, it’s women’s soccer. It’s not like anything valuable was at risk.", "Certainly freer than the yanks", "Look how well they handled this guy who got onto the pitch and assaulted a player.", "Players should stay away from anyone invading the pitch. If there's no rule there, then sooner or later some media twat will call out a player who didn't help, and the next time it happens they'll get involved and get hurt because of it, ruining the game for everyone else. And I can promise you, some fans would organise to make it happen.", "Oh yeah nah I get the logistics of it all, but the Internet is becoming a shitpile for video content. Everything is blocked, regionlocked, age restricted (unless you fork over a biometric sample or kidney), sold, banned, deleted, flagged, astroturfed, algorithm'd to the top, etcetera. \n\nIt's tiresome is all.", "'Strayan", "Not a single dislike on the video", "I don't get national pride much, but watching this perfect execution brought it out. Take that, dickhead.", "You think laws are based on common sense, how cute.", "But, muh feels, bro. Too much nuance for reddit.", "Nah, a drunk won't assault a player in public so we can skimp on the security budget.", "I keep forgetting that her brother won a premiership with the Eagles! \nI recall a time when she was breaking into the scene and was always referred as Daniel Kerr's sister.\n\nNow he doesn't even get a mention! Good stuff!", "is it red card = expulsion & yellow card = final warning?", "I don't think it's because they don't want the fan to get hurt so much. I think it's because of concern for players both legally and their welfare if something happens when they engage with the fan. It might also encourage others if they know they can provoke a fight with a footballer.", "You had me 'wtf' for a beat before I realized it was a joke. Well done.", "Laws vary by jurisdiction but generally speaking physical force is allowed to remove a trespasser. You don't just have to ask politely and then sit idly by while they do whatever they want.\n\nYour employer may just be scared of lawsuits (both from you and from the trespasser) so they may have policies that say they will fire you for intervening.", "Did you see that ludicrous display last night", "If you knock them to the ground because you know they are tresspassing and you are attempting to remove them then the determination of if you were allowed to do that is if your employer who owns the area permits you to forcefully remove tresspassers. Obviously the owner does have the right to forcefully remove them.\n\nI would say the employer should not have a problem with reasonable use of force to stop a crime, and neither should the sport.", "The reason is security aren't payed enough to give a shit.", "Someone posted alt videos\n\nhttps://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rc84wf/man_invades_the_field_during_a_womens/hntx0e1/", "[This link](https://youtu.be/W-uMHbN-5us?t=254) saves you 4 minutes of your lives.", "It was her brother Wayne.", "She's an idiot.", "And only under certain circumstances (red cards, penalties etc)\n\nWe had the farce last season where the goal line tech wasn't working and the ball was clearly in the goal, but VAR weren't allowed to get involved and show the ref.", "Since the security team would also have him removed the only issue is if she used a reasonable amount of force to stop him from committing the crime.", "Here is video of her brother, [who played in the elite level, for a Premiership winning Australian rules football team, doing the same move](https://youtu.be/Q6mKp3pVak4?t=89). In Aussie rules it is called a hip and shoulder.", "Security only runs when the guy starts running.\n\nWork harder", "bruh i’d understand this argument if you’re talking about some head trauma or some shit. it was one kick to the leg; get over yourself. touch some grass go out in the sun", "If the ref can't bend the rules then who can?", "It's nonsense to say that it's the same as stopping a player from running by hitting them. The players are meant to be there and are participating in a sport. The interaction between the player and the tresspasser shouldn't even involve ref calls as it has nothing to do with the sport in the first place.", "Worth it :D", "Lets go with your office example, can the security guard body check the dude to if he is running around the office and trying to evade being caught, as to remove him from the office?\n\nAnd now what if someone from the office helps the security guard?\n\n&#x200B;\n\nI suppose this is an interesting legal question, but what is a security guard really? Its just a dude or gal with a uniform and the authorization from the owner of the property to remove a person from said property by force correct?", "Apologies", "Players absolutely should not interfere except to literally stop an assault...which is what happened.", "oooga ogga bogga crushk", "do you? apparently you dont, cause i saw no nuance when the guy kicked the other one who was lying on the floor. clowns", "This wanker was lying on the ground, with security standing over him and he still got up and ran off. Security were useless cunts and the fuckwit deserved to get laid out.", "Not quite the same but definitely important to keep them apart aside from the good interactions like giving a ball to a kid, signing the occasional thing, etc.", "We also call a similar thing a \"shirtfront\". Incredible imagination", "The fuckwit was lying on the ground with security there and he still got up and ran off. Security were worse than useless.", "Because this pitch invader could have any kind of intentions and personally I see it as a danger to the players. Players have been attacked before and then sent off for defending themselves, I don't understand the logic in that. \n\n I don't think players should be penalised as part of the game for something a pitch invader has started.", "No.. the point is I didn't expect the YouTube video to be titled \"Sam Kerr DESTROYS Pitch Invader\" to just see someone give them a light shoulder barge. A stupid clickbait title for a video if I ever saw it.", "You should never take a job if you truly don’t give a shit.", ">Video unavailable\n\n>This video contains content from Eredivisie Media & Marketing CV, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds.\n\nLol", "The guy can stand up and attack him again, still a threat.", "It depends on your jurisdiction. Where I am, entering a restricted space during a physical activity could it get such charges dismissed, as this space clearly comes with different accepted behaviors. What I mean is this: if she had checked a member of the other team in this manner, would that have been assult or an excepted risk of the game?\n\n For a different example, if my dog bites you because you trespassed inside my house, that is different than if my dog bites you on the street. When he entered the space, he was choosing to accept the rules of the space.\n\nNow, this primary applies to criminal liability. Civil liability is a whole different thing.", "Fucking joke. Scrote got what he needed, kick in the hole", "If a cop is chasing a person who broke the law, they have the right to ask a civilians to help subdue the person. You might not even know why they are being chased. \n\n\nThis person is being chased by security, breaking the law and is subdued by a civilian but it's a bad thing.", "Security are volunteers who don't get paid and have a very basic course.\n\nDeserved or not, the players are not allowed to do it for good reason", "I'm in agreement with you, but I would say this is a little more than someone doing something \"you don't agree with.\" That makes it sound like he was voicing his political opinions or painting his house an offensive color. He was breaking posted rules. Now you can't just bodycheck someone because they are breaking rules, but he wasn't exactly being safe with himself.", "What a sore loser.", "A card?\n\nHe wasn't demonstrating aggressiveness to her, or putting anyone in danger.\n\nShe hit him. She should be happy to just get a card and not legal action.", "Especially impressive given Daniel Kerr was apart of arguably the best midfield trio of all time", "Really? World Cup 1998, new rule put in place. Sliding tackles with 2 feet on players from behind now result in a direct red card.\n\nReferees selected for the playoffs? Only referees who DIDNT enforce (or were put in situations having to enforce it) this rule during the group stages.\n\nSo there's that.", "That handball just afterwards at 1:40 was absurd, god he was good", "\"physical force\" isn't a blank card to do anything you want, most laws include some kind of proportionality. They could've just grabbed him, he wasn't a physical danger who needed to be knocked down.\n\nI'm not saying this wasn't proportional, that isn't me to judge, but it's not that simple that you can just say \"physical force is allowed\".", "Um excuse me have you met any security guards? We aren't paid to run, we are paid to witness and write reports.", "he joined a game in session so he consented to playing.", "Even better when our PM tries to use it on Vladimir Putin. Real effective… we had the Russian navy sail into our territorial waters and we could do fuck all about it. \n\nOur PMs are idiots.", "Yeah solid predator vibes.\n\nThat nonchalant stalk, to a sudden burst the moment the prey looks away.\n\nEssentially r/natureismetal material", "She’s a national hero. Always has been.", "> I'm not saying this wasn't proportional, that isn't me to judge\n\nYou did just say that, it was literally the previous sentence. And you are wrong; this was reasonable. It is clear you have never tried to \"just grab\" someone who is uncooperative because that almost always involves tackling them.\n\nI am not sure how you read \"physical force is allowed\" and in your mind that translates to \"any physical force is allowed\" but obviously it needs to be reasonable. And this was.", "You will get booted instantly if you do this in the NBA, people are just having fun.", "It varies from place to place, but that's generally the idea, the big reason being that security guards are trained and authorised to put themselves at risk of dealing with a potentially dangerous person. Some Wall Street type in a suit might know how to karate chop someone just right, but that doesn't mean their job will allow them to, in case they get injured doing it and then either cannot work and (costing the company money), or try to sue the company for letting them get injured at work.\n\nBottom line, the reason this happened is about 90% likely to be 'it wasn't her job', and nothing more. Her job was to kick a ball around a field for a while, not tackle randos running around the place. She did it magnificently, but that wasn't her job.", "Wouldn’t advise telling him that tho", "Completely agree. Can't assault someone because they are holding up your place of work. Its nuts. What ridiculous double standards.", "The referee vaguely looks like he says “Mr. Anderson” a lot more than the average person.", "She saw that security did bugger all, protected her teammates. We’ve seen crazy fans stab players at the tennis. Can’t blame her.", "Agreed, but a good footy player. She and Dan probably gave each other plenty of such hip-and-shoulders growing up.", "I would’ve stayed on the ground pretending to be in pain while thinking of my potential lawsuit. She’s fucking stupid for even doing this.", "No, no you are not.\n\nEdit: seem to be some misogynist sadbois not liking the term “football” or “women” in reference to professional sports, a standard that they could never possibly aspire to.", "What’s all the legal knowledge in the world if you can’t even catch a man that’s down in the grass?", "lmao she waited until he was looking away", "I'm so confused by this comment.", "Man fuck this shit sometimes assholes need an ass whooping.", "I am not saying it wasn't proportional, I was however suggesting that I think there was an alternative. Either way, you're not a judge, nor am I, who are we to judge. You can have your opinion, but that doesn't make it fact.", "It is football...not soccer", "\"Man looking other way gets pushed over for a moment.\"", "And this is why soccer is for soft athletes. A true no contract sport that is unbearable to watch", "Isn't she being? Seems so from comments.", "I remember when Monica Seles was [stabbed](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monica_Seles#1993_stabbing_attack) at a tennis match. \n\nThese \"fans\" need to be taken out fast by security. No one knows their intentions.", "Bro... Black, Voss, Power", "Worth it.", "It’s Alkmaar, not Alkhmar", "Good on the goalie, fuck that guy", "Is this the Gunner's second sub?", "2:12 if anyone is wondering", "How did this happen with Dutch using a \"ch as in loch\" sound?", ">any soccer player is taught to do on day 1\n\nNo ~~soccer~~ football player who knows how to actually play the game is taught to do any kind of shoulder charge move, stop lying.", "It’s actually an unofficial Premier League sub.", "Blocked in my country? It happened it my country!", "This is how you make people ignorant. Next time she will just say \"fk it\" and go home. \nIt was amazing, instant action is what teaches people to not do it again.", "Then don't take on the job?", "I'm pretty sure it stopped being self defense once the guy was on the floor and getting kicked.", "Canadian football fan here. I started watching AFL last year when the CFL was shut down due to COVID - you guys have one hell of a game, absolutely love it. Go Crows!", "What was Wenger thinking sending Walcott on that early?", "Not a soccer fan, but isn't a yellow card just a warning, with no negative consequences unless you get a couple more?", "Mate the security in the video couldn't catch a cold, so well trained lol", "/r/badlegaladvice", "Maybe employ real security instead of picking randoms off the street then? Jesus Christ 😂", "Oof", "2nd yellow and you're out of the game. And won't be replaced.", "Buddy didn't seem to pose much of a threat, not sure why the player thought they should put their hands on someone else. Let security do security.", "Typical reddit downvotes for a quality post", "How about that wanker? Total bollocks!", "Lol", "Fuck that ref", "Did you even watch the video? Security were doing their best Keystone Cops impersonation.", "Well, that’s assault so good.\n\nPlayers aren’t security nor law enforcement. It’s not their job to deal with the guy unless he’s actually threatening them with physical harm.\n\nI bet she doesn’t get charged for assault though because she’s a woman. Can you imagine if a male soccer (or god, US football) player did that to a woman.", "Her brother was a gun Australian Rules Football who dished out a few identical hits in his time", "I'd accept the player being punished somehow, but i don't think they should be booked in the match. with a red card the game has to be played 10v11. just because security is taking their sweet time to get an asshole off the pitch.\n\nmaybe a fine, or 1 game suspension. I don't like the idea of using bookings as punishment for an event not directly tied to the competition between the two teams.", "Or you use a VPN.", "That’s football.", "Also, depending on league/tournament rules where you play, a set number of yellows means you miss next match.\n\nLike, if you just get a yellow but in 2 separate matches, a 3rd yellow in a 3rd match means you can't play in the next one.", "I still have no idea how these refs arw so shit and still manage to carry on with their job. If everyone involved in my job's fucking furious with me all the time, I'll probably be fired in no time. Hell, I'll resign myself.\n\nYet here we are. All these shitty fucking refs ruining game after game and they're still here.", "Don’t fuck with an Australian.", "Exactly, we are not paid to fight. Lot of the folk in my country who do that work are mostly volunteers.", "\"heavy\" being the keyword here.\n\nMost security is just old people sitting around doing fuck all.", "Football has always been an extreeeeeeemely conservative game and they have only started to implement things like this (a video refferee for example, the VAR) in the past few years. \n\nIt’s so dumb. They could literally just copy the strategies from hockey and it would pretty much work one to one.", "The root cause of the problem is how Intellectual Property and the laws around it have been twisted beyond all recognition in the last 30 years (especially in the US) so this kind of crap happens.", "Yeah I fully agree, the security weren't even trying, and the player has a valid case of claiming they felt unsafe with some rabid yobbo streaming across the pitch.\n\nJust pointing out the logic behind these choices. People do something that actively benefits them and everyone around them, but still get in trouble because 'you could've been hurt'.\n\nI had it myself once, worked in a small business with only like 5 people working in total. It was a council-owned place, and one of our lightbulbs was flickering madly. We had to call a repairman out to come and deal with it, which was going to take over a week to get done, so I just got a ladder out of the store-room, climbed up and screwed the bulb in properly to fix it.\n\nBy the time I put the ladder away I was being reprimanded by my boss for putting myself at risk of falling and being hurt, and how it 'isn't your job' to go fixing things like that.", "Yeah wtf ref she was right on the ball", "Thank you. I don't understand the lack of courtesy or self awareness people have posting a ten minute video without a timestamp when we just need to see a 10 second clip.\n\nIt's like if someone mentioned a scene from a movie and someone's like, \"here's the scene,\" and the link is to the entire movie.", "Fucking oath it is.", "[ Jump to 02:12 @ ajax vs az incident](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-uMHbN-5us&t=0h2m12s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: driss el aoud, Video Popularity: 89.18%, Video Length: [07:53])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@02:07](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-uMHbN-5us&t=0h2m7s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^\| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)", "Lmao, is Alkhmar the Arabic sister city of Alkmaar? XD\n\nBut yeah, good for the manager. That’s just bullshit.", "1st yellow is a warning, second is out. Red is out immediately. Often combined with 1 or more games suspension.", "Yeah he's not wrong. But I'd say there's some leeway to this. If the keeper just decided to fuck up a spectator who's been heckling him all game, then it's fair.\n\nBut the pitch invader literally tried to hurt the keeper. Granted the kick when the invader was on the floor was a bit over the top but it's totally understandable.\n\nRef's not wrong. He's just a stubborn asshole.", "Yeah. thats why its blocked. Why do people always posts these comments as if its a confusing conflict.", "Lmao well when you put it like that, it does sound kinda stupid!", "Yeah they went easy on her, it's not her job to drop wankers and arguably isn't even safe - if you're a pro footballer you let the pro security (lol) deal with this.", "It's actually \"weeeeyyyyy\", which is used mostly as either schadenfreude or sarcastically.", "Yeah I get him, \"I was just following the rules\" is famously a very tried and tested way of getting out of reaponsability, right?", "Good. You don't just get to assault people because you can't contain your emotions", "Ah yes, teaching lessons through violence. I'm sure there's no better solution", "In that case she'd still get a card. You can't charge people like that even for the ball", "If she thought he was a knife-wielding maniac then she's a moron for checking him...", "Indeed. It is violent conduct no matter who it is performed on.", "I can see you gesturing reading your comment, left arm vetical-aling: middle and bent by 90° horizontally while the right arm is vertical-align: bottom bent 90° vertically.", "Get your priorities straight and go mine me some opal", "You're right. It should have been a red card. Imagine assaulting someone and getting away with a warning. Life's easy when you're female.", "You're right, it's not a fact because it's my opinion. It's a fact because she has not been and will not be charged with any crime.", "Probably a factor of how many security guards they have. The bigger the game, the bigger the crowd, the more security.\n\nThis happened at the weekend and it ended up being someone from Coventry's bench that finished it:\n\nhttps://www.reddit.com/r/ccfc/comments/r9bqd6/adi\\_viveash\\_taking\\_out\\_a\\_pitch\\_invader\\_yesterday/", "She barely got him off the feet. \"Dropped hard\" is quite the exaggeration here.\n\nEDIT: One has to assume everyone downvoting this is thinking that was a strong bodycheck. Are you sure about that? He barely tumbled and dropped basically just because he looked the other way.\n\nThere is no need to whiteknight here.", "Let's say you're being rowdy in the library. Do I have to right to come up and check you onto the ground because security wasn't dealing with you? What a dogshit argument bro", "You seem to be under the false impression that the average US citizen is in danger of getting in fights every day on the street. I just want you to know that is laughably ignorant and kinda makes me discount your whole point of view.", "A \"class\" footballer who should have left the invader alone. It's not like the Az Alkhmar v Ajax situation.\n\nShould have got a red card too.", "On no, I can't commit violence without a warning!? You're right, that's total bullshit", "Why did she do that?", "Reminds me of a match that has left me with knee pain at times. \n\nI used to play goalkeeper myself and during a match a guy broke away with the ball coming straight for the goal, he had a decent distance to go so of course I charge and at the last second attempt to drop onto the ball with my body as there is just about no way to maneuver it around my 6 foot 200 pound frame that way and the other guy follows and drops with me putting the front of his knee cap right into the side of mine taking me out of the rest of the game.\n\nI tried talking to the ref about and he angrily told me he is lucky I dont get red carded for \"dropping for the ball so late\". \n\nMy normally meek and nerdy coach went to the refs locker at half time and screamed at them until he lost his voice because he knew if the incident got elevated they would side with my coach and I, as I had done nothing illegal in the match and it is VERY much so against the rules to try to challenge the goalkeeper for posession of the ball. As soon as its in the hands of the goalkeeper you gtfo.", "in hindsight, from my armchair ...\n\nthe player neednt have hit back to \"defend\" himself ... he was not cornered ...he could have ran away after having dodged the initial surprise jump\n\ni would presume the rules are there to avoid things like this getting escalated beyond control\n\nif hitting back is really necessary in a different situation for self-defense ...then hell with the rules or red cards ... physical safety is paramount and do what you need to do to save yourself / others", "Kingsmeadow, the Chelsea FC training ground", "TIL\n\nthanks for sharing. Good decision by the coach.", "He didn't interfere he's the one that got kicked lol, he just kicked him back", "You grab the ankle, kicks hurt but they usually arent that fast like a punch. Dont resist the force work with it and then yank them forward.\n\nSource: older brother with autism and cerebral paulsy that constantly instigated fights.", "But what about the rest of the match", "Mostly, a security guard is not a multi-million dollar commodity. If a player goes after a drunk idiot and ends up getting injured, the team and FIFA lose money. If a securityguard gets injured, they hire a new one, no problem.", "Alkmaar, and that's a bit of a different situation, the goalie defended himself. Sam Kerr assaulted a man.", "The first sure, \n\n\nThe 2nd/3rd you're the aggressor at that point, especially with security that close.", "It's almost like they dedicate their entire life, time, and energy to the sport and don't want the piss taken out of it in the middle of a match", "Getting a yellow card for becoming a national hero is a good trade", "Ehhhh, there's a huge level of subjectivity to almost all sports officiating. There's technical fouls in basketball, unsportsman like conduct in football, etc. By your logic, the ref could have also ignored it and had penalties assessed AFTER the fact, in the form of fines or suspensions.", "I think advice from fighting someone with cerebral palsy is much less applicable to someone who is in good physical condition. Specifically, fucking up what you're suggesting means you will break all of the fingers on that hand; which will likely be inconvenient.", "I mean, isn't it straight up assault? She doesn't own the pitch and hasn't been asked by the owner to remove the man, so she has no legal right to detain him, or attack him, as he wasn't being an active threat. I can't blame footie organisations having a rule that says if you break the law on the pitch you get a red card.", "So if I walk into an office I work there and will be given a spreadsheet to work on?", "What happened after? Did the other team get the win be default?", "a shove to the ground, oh yes, quite the DESTROYING the guy got", "Unprovoked physical assaults by police, security guards, mall cops, and yes, soccer players, are not appropriate. In most jurisdictions, they're technically a crime.\n\nYes, I know fans love it. But from an evolved and informed perspective, this shouldn't happen. It's common assault.\n\nLet the authorities detain the clown and use the 30 seconds it takes as a timeout.", "Nobody wants to pay for it, most women's and lower league teams can't afford it at all.", "If someone that isn't an active threat to me or anyone else walks into my office and I believe they're trespassing, I have zero right to involve myself in the altercation, and would not just get a time-out if a hip checked them, I'd be fired. Because I just assaulted someone in my office. And they'd be right. I should have called security and let them handle it.", "> Imagine taking a joke that serious.\n\nJokes are funny.", "I'm honestly surprised that this comment has had a relatively positive reaction. Probably one of my biggest annoyances on Reddit is how often people prioritise \"justice\" over safety and protocol. It's not an athlete's job to deal with these people, unless if he's acting actively dangerous then just let security deal with it. We don't live in the wild West anymore, we have systems to deal with this shit for a reason, we don't need any heroes.", "Security's job isn't to brutally assault some clown that's on the field. \n\nNot sure when society lost their mind and decided police brutality or civilian assault is magically acceptable just because there's a 30 second delay in a sports ball game.", "\"You just did it. So I had to hit it! Woo Woo!\" -- Terry Tate 2002", "If a man did that to a woman the pitchforks would be out. \nEqual rights, equal pay, equal standards.....etc", "Not really, ever heard of retard strength? Its real, he kicked like a god damn horse and grappling him head on never worked because he was always as strong or stronger than me. I had to learn to constantly throw his strength against him.\n\nYou always have a chance at failure when doing anything. Cooking can lead to horrible burns, drawing can lead to getting stabbed, labor workers put themselves in deaths embrace every day. Potentially breaking your fingers from fighting doesnt sound so extreme compared to the dangers of every day life. \n\nYou cant tell me its going to break your fingers every single time though as its something I use on people that like to try that maneuver and Ive yet to lose a finger.", "This depends a bit, but in many places, yes. If I hip checked an intruder in my office who is not an active threat to anyone at that time, the only thing I'm legally (and by company policy) allowed to do is call security and let them handle it. It's different if they start attacking people, but it's clear in the video he's just an asshole walking on the field. Else, I get fired, and probably charged with assault.", "In a lot of jurisdictions this could also be charged as assault. Ruining one's life just to take a free shot at some clown is not worth it.", "Seen players get red cards for this.", "WhT happened to the invader?", "Correct. Anywhere else but a sports ball game and this is career-ending police brutality, or a 7 figure lawsuit for the mall cop, or an assault charge if it's a civilian. \n\nIt's weird that people think laws magically vanish inside a stadium and that you can just instigate an unprovoked clothesline or flying kick or other kind of assault on someone.", "Lol 'lack of courtesy'. You can just look up the video yourself if you want, he/she is not required to link it to your wishes", "So why the hell is a card awarded for this? A pitch invader is not a part of the competition nor either team.\n\nAnd what, unsporting behavior for checking a twat who is himself ruining and halting the game? Ref can go smell their farts somewhere else thank you. Same shit as that goalie who got red carded for defending* himself from a pitch invader attacking him.", "There was much rejoicing.", "It's not a hard legal question: no. Your office security officer may not assault someone for the crime of walking or running. Nor can they do it if he's talking or making a funny noise or stripping his clothes off. In general, assault is assault. It's bizarre how people don't get that basic realization.", "Except the penalty (and, appropriately, a charge for bodily assault) aren't \"because security is taking their sweet time\". The consequences are because of deliberate choice taken to assault a person. It's unnecessary. Wait the ten second and let security detain the person. Treat as a timeout and have a drink of water. Be a sportsman, not a thug.", "I've never seen a player referred to as a \"gun\" before and I've seen it three times in this thread now. I love it and I'm gonna steal it for hockey use, thank you.", "\"dropped hard\"... dropped hard?! That was a shoulder bump at least be honest in the title, I thought she was gonna hit him. Glad he got put on his ass but the alcohol did most of the work here.", "> has a valid case of claiming they felt unsafe with some rabid yobbo streaming \n\nBullshit.", "After the Monica Seles stabbing, I don't fault any athlete or other celebrity for over-doing it on self defense. No telling what the guy would've done if he got back up, and security hadn't secured the fucker yet.", "The thing about arseholes is, they always try to walk on.", "Football is a hilarious sport, but in a very sad way.", "There was no \"danger to the players\". \n\nPlayers who do this should be sent off and charged with bodily assault. I get that undereducated fans think the world is just some big videogame and that taking a free shot at some drunk putz is funny. But under the rule of law we can't have anyone - and that includes police officers and sports ball players - just going ham and committing assault because they happen to be mildly irked at a tiny delay of game.", "Except the security team weren't doing jack about it, hence my point of the player being able to argue they felt unsafe (not saying that was what happened, but that's what they can claim should it go to court). The security team were just letting him wander around and interrupt the game.\n\nSome guy gets on the field, security isn't doing anything about it, I fully understand the player reacting violently, especially with the adrenaline of the game already flowing.", "To be fair, next to a professional soccer player almost anyone looks like a waddling penguin.", "> determination of if you were allowed to do that is if your employer who owns the area permits you to forcefully remove tresspassers.\n\nHogwash. There's no such law. In fact there's numerous laws to the contrary.\n\nThe circumstances in which you can physically assault someone are incredibly limited. And when it's both unprovoked and unjustified like this, there's no exemption.", "Would have had a red if she was a male footballer !", "Woof the entitlement", "Ah that training explains perfectly why they are doing fuck as in the video.", "Athletes have been attacked, stabbed and even killed by fans. Please try to think for yourself, don't just blindly follow \"tradition\" or poorly written rules.", "> So, what was the deal here?\n\nNot much money in womens football, they probably cannot afford it.", "> Laws vary by jurisdiction but generally speaking physical force is allowed to remove a trespasser. You don't just have to ask politely and then sit idly by while they do whatever they want.\n\n\nYou're absolutely wrong. \n\nThere's no jurisdiction like that. Physical force must be proportional and limited to extremely narrowly defined situations where there's a threat of serious harm or death. If that means patiently talking to a clown, waiting for police to carefully subdue him, or just avoiding him for the 2 minutes until they show up, that's what the law demands.\n\nYou can't just brutally assault someone because they irked you or because they trespassed. Someone who does could end up in a thousand times the criminal and civil jeopardy as the trespasser.", "Love how it says \"by a player\" like she isn't the best female soccer player in the world", "Agree, but if the person is down, why not just grab him and escort him off? Waddling behind him means that the delay can be 90 minutes long instead of 30 seconds.", "Ahah rip Richie what a legend", "I can't imagine being dumb enough to think that was a joke. What's it like?", "Was it the team that was winning or the team that was losing that went off?", "> protected her teammates.\n\nFrom someone taking a selfie?", "/r/ImTheMainCharacter/", "Honestly I don't think there should be any mitigating variables here. It should always be \"What? A fan came onto the pitch and they were injured? No card.\"\n\nYou don't need to run that by a tribunal or a have a vote, if a fan barges into the game, they're already acting erratic. Who the hell knows what else they're capable of.?", "A surprise shoulder tap would get you but I wouldn’t say destroyed. If she had literally dropped kicked then that would’ve been destroyed.", "(I think maybe people don't necessarily understand that you're joking around with your response to me, but oh well...)", "Ah yes, because that training is evidenced so beautifully here..... \n\nNot.", "You're one of the few here who actually knows about the concept of proportionality. There's also a concept of necessity. If a clown is delaying your game, there's no necessity to assault him. Even if a security guard shows up, the proportional response is to harmlessly grasp him and escort him away, \n\nAll,the scenes of clowns like this being brutally assaulted are crimes. Fans may love it, but it's still a crime.", "Your logic is wrong. The consequences are for assaulting a person. no assault? No card, and no criminal charge.", "That's pretty sad.", "First of all, loads of cunts run onto pitches in men's games and take photos, happened like 5 times during Euros, I think it happened even twice to Cristiano. \n\nSecondly, you can see in this clip that they're not even in a stadium, there are barely any people there, it's comparable to a men's amateur game. Of course there isn't much security.", "OP was correct in surmising it as a final warning", "And at the end -\n\n\"It's a man\"\n\n\"...if you say so\"", "> Malice at the Palace\n\nMan, that was my favorite 3 Stooges episode!\n\n[Hot dog, they'll take rabbit!](https://youtu.be/ODkuH93AkNw?t=224)", "Lol I’m from Arizona and I was like “huh, we have a lower division soccer team here but I don’t remember that happening”. This is the Netherlands 😂", "The video wasn't that interesting anyway, couldn't understand any of it, it was in some weird language probably nobody can understand.", "The dude didn't watch the video and just saw Sam Kerr in the title so must've thought it was in Australia.", "100% agree, what a shitshow.", "1 warning. A second infraction of any kind, yellow or red, and you're sent off. Yellow less serious, red more serious. A red gets you sent off directly whether or not there was a prior warning. It can also affect your team.", "> Ehhhh, there's a huge level of subjectivity to almost all sports officiating.\n\nI did say there was subjectivity, but it is controlled and limited.\n\n>By your logic, the ref could have also ignored it and had penalties assessed AFTER the fact, in the form of fines or suspensions.\n\nThat doesn't fit in with my logic at all. It would if the rule permitted the referee to do that, but it doesn't.", "Why don’t you just post a video of some soccer players knocking people to the ground in the same manner as the AFL do and then this will be case closed?\n\nWe’ll wait…", "Out of curiosity, how does one execute the hip and shoulder move? I looked at bith the videos but it just happens so quick each time and looking it up on youtube results in golf swings and yoga exercises. \n\nIs it you throw your hip in low at the target and rise up with your shoulder as they fold down? I am amazed how they don't bump heads together accidentally.", "…twenty feet from the sun and populated by Cocknies.", "cheap shot is unnecessary", "Exactly. A guy running around acting the fool is one thing (though still a threat). But a guy who attacked you? You can’t take the risk that he might decide to continue his attack if you let up — you keep kicking him until security gets there. If FIFA in its eternal corruption — sorry, meant wisdom — decides to card you for that, well… at least you’re safe.", "Lol as the guy on the ground throws up his hands in defense and the security has to pull the goalie off of from kicking him while he's down.\n\n\"I had no choice!\"", "It’s too difficult to manipulate a video player?", "LOL what? In the context of getting attacked by a fan? If the fan had pulled a knife on him would he need to defend himself with a clean tackle to not draw a penalty?", "To be fair, it does look as though he only really kicks him in the arse/legs. If he kicked his head then I'd agree, but he looks to be naturally in full fight mode which is hard to stop yourself throwing in a few extra unnecessary hits (you're not really thinking much about if they're okay, just making sure they won't hit you again)\n\nIf you've ever watched fight videos, you'll know how brutal people can get when the fight or flight response kicks in.", "If that flying kick had landed, the goalkeeper’s career could have been ended. In the heat of a game, having just been attacked in such a way, I have no doubt that in those 3-4 seconds he was not entirely conscious of what he was doing. Adrenaline is a helluva drug.", "True. But having never been assaulted by a stranger myself it's hard to judge someone else. I mean it's not like he wound up and free-kicked the dude's face.", "If a rando attacked me from behind, and I happened to be big and strong enough to get him on the ground, for sure I would consider it self defense to keep kicking him until police arrived. You weren’t stabbed initially, sure, but never give him a second chance.", "You still can't assault him. Source: laws", "Wtf are you talking about? Ever see how security guards deal with these people?", "So be it. You can't assault people. Also, please list five examples where the pitch invader walked around for \"90 minutes\". \n\nJust wait 30 seconds and don't be a criminal. It's not hard.\n\nA properly trained security officer doesn't go hands on until they absolutely have to. Walk the trespasser out and hand them their trespass notice. No crime. No criminal charge for the security guard. No life being ruined. No company being sued out of existence. No pitch invader getting spinal damage.", "Seeing a lot of praise for the player here.\n\nI wonder what the reaction would be if the fan were female and the player male. Pretty different I would imagine?", "You don't know that, but even if security is going slightly too slow, that's not a license to suspend the rule of law. Being mildly irked isn't a justification for bodily assault. Ever.", "I’m not ignoring that. Each circumstance is different though.", "American living in the Netherlands, and about once a week I have a similar epiphany: \"Oh, that is why this English word exists!\"\n\nFor example, I had no idea why the word coney meant rabbit, until I learned the Dutch konijn. Why is hot ham water so watery, and yet there's a smack of ham to it? Because of the Dutch word smaak.", "If you just put \"big ass murder bird\" I wouldn't have had to google 'Cassowaries'.", "The guy that threw the cup egged him on and further antagonised him into a fit of rage. The state prosecutor actually built a very large case against the man and he’s a total piece of shit that knew what he had done and had/has zero remorse. Another fan tried to start on artest and got dropped also but he genuinely ran towards Artest with fists engaged and quickly regretted his decision.\n\nEdit: I also just want to make note of how fucked up stern treated all the players involved and what he proceeded to do to the league over the next few years.", "The guy was a dick, but also not a player and there was no play happening. He could try to claim she assaulted him and she'd be in a bit of hot water", "Alcohol.", "It's a lack of courtesy because the person who provides the link knows where in the video the scene occurs and instead of spending an extra 2 seconds of their life typing out the timestamp, decides to waste 4 minutes of the lives of everyone who wants to see it.", "Ah yes, soccer. That beloved sport well known for its civil and well behaved fans lol", "I'm not confused, I'm pissed. It's fucking frustrating to be roadblocked everywhere.", "He also invaded the stands when there was no immediate threat to him. Big difference. He was not in contact with any fans until he put himself in contact with them.", "And you don't either. But by your logic, if I'm running full-pelt towards you, waving my arms and jabbering like a lunatic, you should just stand still and let me do so, yes? And that if you felt unsafe and reacted with violence to protect yourself, you'd be in the wrong, yes?\n\nAlso, 'mildly irked'? I'd say it was a bit more than 'mildly irked' unless you're just determined to be on the side of the person who broke onto the pitch in the middle of a game to make as big of a clown of himself as he possibly could.", "Yes I did. So explain to me how that means she can tackle him.", "The ref can fucking walk home for that aunt Tomina mindset", "I will if you list five examples where pitch invaders have gotten spinal damage from a tackle\n\n\nDo you see how obnoxious your argument strategy is?", "Something similar happened recently here. The player tried to defend the steward (old guy) who was being attacked by one those idiots. He got a red card AND his own coach flamed him for it:\n\n(Video in CZ)\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSWAadLeIoE", "Good call, it was off the ball, so definitely a free kick and he took the advantage by running off again. I don't know where the ump got cards from though.", "She knew it should really have been a red and that she got off lightly there.", "You first. After you do, I'll list 5000 examples. See you ten minutes after never, because your claim is fraudulent, as are you.", "Fellow Canadian here. My fist thought was \"Fuck it, if they don't want her to hit like that, bring her here to Canada. We'll teach her to skate, and she can teach the other women not to cross the blue line with their heads down. And we would love her for it.\"", "Lol. You didn't hurt my feelings. You just made yourself look ignorant, twice. I tried to help you but instead of learning, you got YOUR FEELINGS hurt and lashed out, thus proving your ignorance. Good day.", "And this is yet another reason why Americans will continue to call this game soccer and for the most part ignore it.", "Your example is silly and false. You being frightened because some guy that's walking along taking a selfie is just absurd. \n\nSomeone losing their shit because a football game is delayed for 20 seconds is a red flag for serious dysfunction. Being a cheerleader for unprovoked violence is as well.", "> Metta Sandiford-Artest\n\nI had no idea he'd changed his name again and thought you were making a joke. It somehow sounds dumber now, because at least before he was committed to a bit.", "What? It's in the UK. She's a Chelsea player.", "I don't see Viv Miedema out there mate", "Tbf that is assault. She’s lucky it was just a yellow.", "If you don't like that you don't like Chelsea football.", "Probably not, people find it funny if a male player were to take out a twatty pitch invader too but they'd probably get a harsher punishment in all honesty. Like I'm surprised that wasn't a red for Kerr", "Pretty sure that's a red in men's football", "Yeah there you go. Icelandic/Old Norse would blow your mind.\n\nIf - ef\n\nThat - þat\n\nAfter - eftr\n\nBag - baggi\n\nWindow - vindauga\n\nRoom - rúm\n\nAnger - angr\n\nStool - stóll\n\nBoat - bátr\n\nThough it's hard to say if these are cognates or imports, but the list of similar words is huge. English is Old Norse and French standing on each other's shoulders in a Dutch trenchcoat.", "Guessing you’re not much of a drinker", " I'm not even a football fan, never have been, so you're making a lot of assumptions out of nowhere. Also, nice work trying to psychoanalyze someone you've never met before.\n\nStick to Wall Street crime in the future. You're out of your depth on this matter.", "1) where the fuck are the stewards. 2) thats the rules.", "I hear \"get off you twat\" but maybe I'm at the wrong bit of the video", "There is no higher law than soccer law. No judge or jury in the world would convict you, but the ref sure will.", "Lol, I don't get why you are upset. I just used your argument strategy against you. Do you have a hard time making friends? because this is the effect you have on people.\n\n\nNothing in the statement \"[...] the delay can be 90 minutes long instead of 30 seconds.\" Implies that I'm not talking about a hypothetical. Do you understand hypothetical arguments?", "Sam Kerr is an aussie", "Related: I was at a resort in the Dominican republic and ended up playing volleyball with my brother in law, sister and dad against the resort staff. After playing one game, my brother in law wanted to play for $100USD each on the next game. Like dude, we each play volleyball for less than an hour a year, while these guys play every single day as their job. What the hell are you thinking?", "Cleats... \n\n>Why would you ever go on a field and have a kicking match with a guy who's wearing cleats\n\nAlcohol is the answer btw.", "Probably because they aren't very good at fighting.", "I'm not upset, but you apparently are. I just pointed out your excuse was a crock of shit. Now you're getting all upset and whiny.", "My guess is that he did this thinking he could get away with it because it’s a womens match. Hes walking on the field with his guard down filming it like a dickhead, not a care in the world, because he didn't expect anything to happen. So its nice to see that something did happen. He deserved what he got, more so because it makes him look like a fool and not that he got injured in any way. Nobody would act the same way at a mens match.\n\nEdit: grammar", "Tell your mommy your diaper needs a change.", "He's 15 years old. She was afraid he would win the match so she took him down. 😁", "Well yeah players are governed by the officials of the sport, random fans are not. I suppose they could have yellow carded the fan as well, but it might not have the same impact...", "Clearly you need to read to understand the comment. He's talking about if you're not security, and just a worker, which for all intents and purposes the player is. They've assaulted someone, that's the bottom line. The guys a dick, but unfortunately being a dick isn't illegal nor is it her responsibility to see him out.\n\nFrom a moral perspective, good on her.", "Why didn’t the ref simply red card the pitch invader? Then he’d have to go off…", "If someone walked into your work place and you attacked them does that seem reasonable.", "You never proved that my claim was fraudulent, no. How do you disprove a hypothetical?", "> Not familiar with the rules of soccer. \n\nObviously, considering the sport is called football.", "Mike Ditka would like a word", "Yea Vivianne is too busy watching Sam win trophies from home", "Security is not police, and no one asked for there help.\n\nYou can make as many reasons up as you want for the dick head getting decked, but she is in the wrong also", "And the random person putting themselves on their back you encounter is going to be a pro?\n\nDude just stop. You are accomplishing nothing.", "The crowd noise at [12 seconds in](https://youtu.be/XosNl879i-M?t=12) is basically the most British sound of all time. Sums up a nation.", "It's not even just a claim, it's clear cut battery", "This one [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-uMHbN-5us](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-uMHbN-5us) specifically 4:15 where the guy does a flying kick at the goalie. Maybe you didn't realise what comment thread you are replying to.", "Not at all. In fact timestamping the link takes 30 seconds, saving time for every single person that clicks it.", "A player assaulted a person, better encourage it.\n\nAnd people wonder why celebs etc get away with everything. Cos of people like you.", "That was a more goat like despatchment than I was expecting.", "No one is going to sue a footballer over this. This is the UK, not the US.", "Moving at a pace faster than walking isn't exclusive to soccer players. I'd fire that security team in a heartbeat for showing zero hustle.", "Almost as if it's incredibly difficult to be a referee, making difficult decisions in real time, following a hugely complex rulebook which you need to balance with common sense.\n\nHow many times is there a decision where half of people think it was a foul and the other half don't? How can a referee possibly thrive in this madness.\n\nI think in the Premier League they do a very good job. Go down one division to the Championship and it's a shitshow.", "That so makes sense that she comes from an athletic family. I watched her during world cup and I instantly became a fan. I thought she is undeniably the best in the world, everyone should be talking about her, we should all know her name. \n\nThen I tried watching some games... She is so strong and explosive, she would get like 20 scoring chances and wouldn't convert one. \n\nI'm still a fan, but don't watch games because they are so boring.", "He's clearly not a threat. You'd have a hard time proving a man taking a video on the pitch is a danger, especially when she so casually does it.\n\nMaybe I just don't like the privilege given to \"celebs\"", "Andrew Symonds says he wants to buy her a beer", "She is in the wrong, but nothing will happen because they aren't peasants like us :)", "Keep your arm bent and pressed against your torso to form a straight line between shoulder and hip.\n\nPush off with your leg off the ground towards their body.\n\nIf you did it without someone to bash into, you'd just fall over. You basically transfer your falling momentum into the other person and they get knocked to ground, while you get to stay upright.\n\nIt's move designed to knock someone to the ground while minimizing risk of injury to both parties.", "Should have checked that ref like she did that dude.", "No point in arguing this comment section is filled with absolute dip shits. Can't fathom how assaulting someone is illegal.\n\nClaiming danger from him, so if he was a danger why would she assault him? Tackling a man with a knife is a good way to get stabbed.", "Cousins, meth and more meth", "Yeah because America is the be-all and end-all of sports naming. There are dozens of codes across the world that utilise the term “football” doesn’t mean that you yanks have the proprietary use of it. We call it soccer in Australia too, but respect folk that call it football, as it pre-existed our forms of football (Australian rules, rugby league, rugby union, and soccer”) because we aren’t exclusionary dickheads like you are. Footy is footy. Can it get confusing? Sure. But we don’t mince words and believe that throwcatchball, which your “football” is, is superior to any other code calling itself football. \n\nHere’s the thing. I follow American football. I’m a diehard fan down to the college level. But I’m not such an arrogant prick that I pretend that my country’s (Australia) version of football (a universal term, that comes from England, meaning a sport that was played on foot rather than by horse) is better than any other. \n\nPull your head out of your arse.", "My least favourite part of all sports is how they can get away with blatant unprofessional, aggressive and illegal behaviour. Assault obviously being the most common. Just an absolute joke but you've got enough evidence in this comment section to show why they get away with it because there are enough kiddos here that think violence = fun!", "> He's already acting abnormally.\n\nIn what way? People get on the grass all the time for their 15 minutes of fame. He was there for several minutes, just laughing and taking selfies. \n \nMight as well shoot him right?", "So their entire being is fraudulent? How exactly does that work?", "It's a hard job, but they make it worse for themselves by sometimes acting live divas and doubling down when they are clearly wrong.", "Has ANYONE heard of Monica Seles?", "What a dumbfuck analogy 😂", "Arizona is referred to in shorthand as AZ", "> I don't understand the lack of courtesy or self awareness people have", "Nope. I pointed out the ridiculous premise of your post and you lashed out. You just have zero self-awareness regarding your own ignorance and are unwilling to learn. Good luck with that.", "I came here to say this lol. You beat me to it lol", "She's got that Michelle Rodriguez stink-eye", "Post your proof, until then, stop being a lying clown. At least the guy on the pitch wasn't a gaslighting liar.", "You'll have to ask your teacher how words work.", "[timestampped url](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-uMHbN-5us&t=2m12s)\n\nStill can't really see anything since it starts when the guy is already on the ground and beat.\n\nedit Actually there's an aerial replay of it later on [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-uMHbN-5us&t=4m15s).\n\nWho posts an 8 minute video without any additional detail? :unamused:", "dropped hard = bumped over", "He went on to get a picture with the Chelsea captain and Kerr did that. According to the Guardian website.\n\n\nHe shouldn't have run on the pitch, but she's a twat. Can't even call it self defence.", "[not bullshit](https://reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rc84wf/man_invades_the_field_during_a_womens/hnua7iu?context=3), necessarily", "Defending themselves from assault is fine. But someone unauthorized being present on the pitch creates annoyance, not danger. If we normalize that players are allowed to attack people who wander on to the pitch we will eventually read a story about a mentally disabled person who wandered on to the pitch and was attacked for it.", "I've said it before and I'll say it again, it doesn't matter how hard the decisions you have to make in your job are if there's no consequences for getting them wrong. If you can constantly fuck your job up without losing it, it's an easy job.", "Bullshit. You didn't even watch the video. It's a kid walking on the field taking a selfie.", "Where did I lie?", "Are you aware how reddit works? you are replying to a comment thread about a different video. [Here look](https://imgur.com/a/VCohPZK)", "Can you add subtitles in English please esp the interviews", "I have a policy of not getting trolled by gaslighting liars.", "There's a similar phrase that's like \"arm like a cannon\" for the footballs.", "For real, clear pen and I feel like that was also on the coach's mind and he just felt like the ref was playing favourites", "Apart means the opposite of what you think it means.", "Twats and cunts are the same thing.", "Turns out he was Sam Kerr's brother, Wan Kerr", "They might sue a soccerer", "My brother (a big time football fan) got furious with me (a person that only watches football during national tournaments) during the world cup when I dared to suggest that pulling another player who was on their way to a goal onto their back by yanking their shirt collar incredibly hard was probably deserving of a red card.\n\n\"Grabbing the shirt is a yellow! The rules dictate it's a yellow.\" There is no room for nuance or circumstance apparently.", "I have absolutely no idea what you are on about.", "There's no law that says you cannot tresspass on another persons property? Or you're implying there is a law that says you cannot stop somebody from tresspassing on your property?", "If a male athlete did that to a woman who ran into the field/court it’d be the end of his career.", "What are you on about?", "There are people there whose job is to give that ass whooping.", "Guy could have milked it and got a red card. That's why he's an amateur and not a professional.", "The fans know", "Women's football keeps on losing my interest, first the way they overuse n misuse VAR, specially during the Olympics, n then there's this kind of crap, douche was asking for it n the player takes the blame...seriously?....pffff", "When you don’t know where the clip is it’s annoying to either search for it(how when I don’t know when it is) or watch the whole thing", "Lmao do you think I'm just saying \"he might've been there to stab her\"? I'm pointing out that one can't know what is going through the mind of someone stupid enough to run onto the pitch.\n\nI'm not saying she's justified, nor that she has a valid legal case. It seems clear she did it out of spite. But the question at hand was whether a player in that situation could claim they felt unsafe, and it seems like precedent dictates they could be legitimately unsafe (especially with security doing fuckall)\n\n>Bullshit. Are you so stupid you didn't even watch the video?\n\nTake a deep breath, dude. It's comments about a video on reddit. (Eta: nice ninja edit there)", "Wow. Epic. Not Zidane head butting a man to oblivion in the World Cup finals epic, but epic none the less.", "You're wrong about that too.", "> if she had checked a member of the other team in this manner\n\nHe is not a member of the other team not there is an active physical activity going on. It is like if she \"checked\" a member of the other team during a break. Just running into someone and \"checked\" them (nice way to say assault). \n \n> if my dog bites you because you trespassed inside my house \n \nIf you see someone trespass inside your house while you have your dog on a leash, he say \"ok sorry, i'm leaving\", and you release your dog specifically to bite him (like shooting someone in the back as they leave).", "If you have to make lots of decisions, the worst thing you can do is go back on them. If people see you overturn one decision you make, they’ll jump on you every chance they get, trying to overturn anything even mildly unfavorable to them. You’ll make your life a living nightmare and your job that much harder. I don’t envy refs and if you think they’re just being dramatic divas I encourage you to try refereeing yourself", "The problem soccer faces is that if a player goes to town on a fan you might incite more fans to go attack the player.", "> if she used a reasonable amount of force to stop him\n\nWhy does SHE need to apply any force to stop him considering he was not a threat to anyone? Security could just hold him and escort him out and he could comply, and if he didn't, they could use any force.", "Hopefully that terd doesn't try to get her into more trouble", "Oh fuck off! you get on the field of play in any sport you deserve to get your ass kicked male or female; go fuck yourself with that “what if” horseshit; this ain’t marvel comics pal!", "If you were an Australian I'd down vote your comment. Good on you for liking a sport from another country, fuck the crows.", "Ahh, golden retriever syndrom", "OK, but in this case the guy wasn't attacking anyone. She should have left it to security. Let's not glorify violence for it's own sake.", "Wrong. The rules of the game address this. Players are not to contact someone who comes on the pitch. Normally it would be an instant red card. She was given a huge break.", "Well that’s a terrible source. Not to mention security has every right to tackle that guy if they weren’t so inept. And it wouldn’t be assault", "Yeah but after that player got stabbed on the pitch the idea you shouldn't hit back to at minimum stop the attack is flawed. It should be like law enforcement when they should enforce the spirit of the law", "I think there are some vague \"punishments\" behind the scenes the ref union runs internally, but they don't get held accountable by anyone but fans and the press, but i imagine that's intentional. It's such a small pool of people trained to do the job to a decent standard, I'm not sure what punishments you could offer that weren't detrimental to others as well as the individual ref? \n\nBanned from reffing for a few games? Now we don't have enough referees.\n\nFined? That doesn't seem great when their salary isn't huge and sometimes decisions are often subjective. \n\nDoesn't encourage too many more people to become refs with that kind of extra scrutiny.", "But why?? Did the ref ever give an explanation for that?? It seems so clearly and obviously wrong I can't imagine anyone would do such a thing", "I've never seen a person who starts a sentence with LMAO who wasn't socially stunted and irrationally aggressive. I've learned it's best to just avoid such trolls.", "Angel Hernandez?\n\n/r/FuckAngelHernandez", "Just about any American sport, the players would have laid this guy out flat. Why aren't these woman aloud to protect themselves?", "You should go back to a planet without laws then. And you're wrong. And yes it would be.", "I don't know about that. I think that their unwillingness to ever admit fault makes people doubt them even more.", "But there's also a reasonable failure rate. You expect a normal ref to get it wrong some of the time, even the good ones. But at what point does it become unacceptable?\n\nAre they allowed to fuck up 40% of the time? What about 60%? Is it still ok to be a ref if 80% of their calls are proven wrong by video footage after the fact?", "unless you're a hot chick streaking like at wimbledon, I don't think you can trust anyone on the field. Don't blame her one bit.", "I have never heard this before, but I use this in soccer ALL the time.\n\nIt feels so good, and as you mention, it's not a dirty kind of move, since it basically is just a nice, solid bonk with a big area of contact to help distribute the force (no pokey elbows or knees and not much chance to hit someone's head).", "They should add a may in there. Not sure if that's something that can be in a football rulebook but it gives the ref some leeway.", "They gave her a yellow card to represent all the beers she's going to be shouted after the match haha", "True, the NBA definitely learned this lesson in 2004...", "And he is absolutely right. The second kick in particular is definitely a red, seeing as the attacker is as good as neutralised.\n\nBut it is always within the referee's rights to interpret and apply the rules as he sees fit, and if I was the ref, I probably would've pretended that it was all self defense. Just an instinctual act of self preservation.\n\nSeeing as the card was rescinded (which, again, it was absolutely a correct red card) and the match replayed from the start, he would definitely not have had any criticism thrown his way if he had acted with a bit more fingerspitzengefühl.\n\nPerhaps easier said than done after the fact.\n\nEdit: Jebus fucking christ. I guess I should have expected this as it was on all, but \"How you think the rules should be\" does not equal \"How the rules actually are\".\n\nGoing strictly by the rules of football, there's literally no way the AZ keeper doesn't get a red.\n\nThe ref still could've exercised discretion, but he technically did nothing wrong.", "I got a little emotional at that decision.", "Just because they posted a link doesn't mean they know the timestamp. You find it if you're curious. It's not difficult.", "Irrationally aggressive? You're the one who started the interaction with insults, a level I haven't stooped to. Hope you go on to have a better day/life than you seem to be having", "I don't think any top flight referee is close to 40% of decisions wrong.\n\nAs we've seen with decades of data, it's literally impossible to get every decision right. Even when they are right, it's still wrong to someone and vice versa.\n\nMaybe it's impossible in a sport with various subjectivities to achieve better than 80% of decisions \"correctly\"? With all the training, professionalism, technology, etc, and people are still moaning, does that not tell people something?", "Wait, thats a dutch video with dutch teams playing. But somehow its blocked in my country. You know the Netherlands. By a dutch company going by the name \"Eredivisie Media & Marketing CV\".\n\nSo a dutch company is blocking a dutch video in the netherlands... Yeah makes sense.", "I wonder if this is a liability issue. If she hurts this guy, he could possibly sue?", "Its not the referee at fault though.\nIts the way the rules are written.\n\nPeople forget how long it took and how much $ was spent before they even considered video replay or goal line technology.\n\nThese were technologies every other major sport code in the world had already adopted except football.\n\nThe problem is the romanticism for the sport by its fan base. \n\nTradition is so important in this code that making headway into anything feels like an uphill battle.", "Did she actually get a yellow for doing that? The clips look unrelated", "Lmao people on here are brain-dead, they think the moment someone isn't directly hitting you that self defense no longer applies.", "Jesus, the entitlement", "/r/properanimalnames", "Pacers fan here. I get that there's plenty of people at fault. But Artest going into the stands was the most important domino.\n\nPeople that refuse to acknowledge that frustrate the hell out of me.", "> fuck the crows.\n\nTrans-continental shit talking, I love it. Cheers, mate!", "Instantly proved me right", "So it is not a physical push attack or tackle of sorts. I just couldn't picture it but the, \"...if you did it without someone to bash into...\" part put it into crystal clarity -- more of a momentum collision in physics.\n\nThanks for this.", "Knew a guy who did security for Millwall. \n\n\nIf you know the reputation of Millwall, then you've probably got a mental image in your head that is likely not at all inaccurate. \n\n\nThis guy could block a door, but there's no way he'd catch a runner. All of his mates were the same.", "“Got this new bridge across the Sydney Harbour mate.”\n\n“Wow, did you see that big sandy desert out there, it’s great.”\n\n“What’ll we call this big bit of Australia out west mate?”", "She doesn't have to. You also don't have to stop a person robbing your house, or help somebody next to you being murdered, put out fires you see, give anyone cpr when they have a heart attack, etc.. But she can stop them, and it's not wrong of her to.", "Paul Wall named a whole song after Mike Dean and I thought that sub about him too for a sec", "If he walks away from the scorer's table, the whole thing ends with a couple of ejections and small suspensions for the original fight.", "that piece of trivia makes this video 100x better. daniel kerr was an absolute gun on the field", "Perfect. So I'll bet big money on a game. Then pay small money to a bunch of drunk idiots to run on the field and flying kick the team I didn't bet on. \n\nGreat rule. Such a stupid sport.", "Yeah that's what struck me as odd. Security was nearby when she shoulder checked him to the ground.... then security lets him get up and run away while they waddle after him. Find a new job dolts.", "Soccer players literally assault each other all the time, with foot first tackles, shoulder barges, punches head butts, the works, but nobody is ever charged with it as a criminal offence because it's a sports event.\n\nYou get on the pitch, you're playing by the rules and there is no rule in soccer against a shouldering.", "The correct spelling of laugh should be “larf”.", "Thought you just tricked me into watching soccer there for awhile.", "Look at how WWE handles this and there are no repercussions there. I'm not suggesting serious assault, but you never know if a fan could have a knife in their pocket or something crazy. Luckily it's not happened but it's still dangerous to allow it.", "This is why I've loved wrestling's approach to the fucks who try and go into the ring. They don't wait for security to start laying out the justice.", "Yeah, I imagine it's pretty easy to prove yourself right if you simply fabricate reality to fit your weird delusions.", "Why can't any of these stadiums secure the field? This seems like a pretty simple fix.", "If the genders were reversed the soccer player would be going to jail buddy...", "An action that could be defined as maliciously incompetent, the yellow card.", "Yeah so the ones with unacceptable failure rates should be fired", "She did no foul against a player! That ref was out of line.", "Seriously? The lady (Edit for clarification: Sam) was helping.", "Lol their one job is stop fans from getting on the pitch and interact with players. Wtf are talking about?", "Wow, I had never seen that. But doesn't surprise me that the coach was Gertjan Verbeek, he was an interesting presence when he coached in the German league as well, [making enemies of the most influential and hateful tabloid of the country, among other things](https://11freunde.de/artikel/wie-gertjan-verbeek-einst-gegen-die-bild-austeilte/646634).", "Are you serious? I like how you assign some sort of rights to the fan who attacked the goalie as if the fan was a player on the pitch too. So you think a fan should be able to come into a field and attack an unsuspecting player, but that player can't fight back because he's better at kicking than the fan? Only in today's world can people make the perpetrator into the victim so easily, amazing. This wasn't a fan just running around, the fan literally tried to jump kick the goalie, if he didn't turn his head last second to react the fan could have seriously injured him. I mean clearly a fan who is going on the field and attempting to jump kick a player is intending to do harm.", "More irrational aggression re-proving me right.", "It would be way different. The player would be taken to jail I imagine. A bunch of white knights in here eh?", "These types of fans have several screws loose.", "Fuck that, they should have plenty of security at matches nowadays to prevent that exact sort of thing. Players have a right to defend themselves, they shouldn't have to take a beating to please the asshole mob.", "Two yellow cards in a single game = red card and immediate ejection (team loses a player for the rest of the match). Being sent off leads to being banned (two yellows = 1 match ban).\n\nSuspensions are based on the tournament rules. Accumulating enough yellow cards over a certain number of games can lead to a suspension (typically a single match).\n\nIn the UEFA Women’s Champions League (which this game was in), accumulating three yellows results in a match ban (same when 5,7 and 9 yellow cards are racked up). This was Kerr’s first yellow card of the tournament (at most there are 4 games left in the competition - if they were to reach the final).", "Mate, don't talk about accomplishment, this is a conversation about you manhandling your (to use your words) \"retard\" brother and trying to apply that to kickboxing randos. Combat sports are quite popular now, chances are if someone is trying to pick a fight with you these days it's because they know how to fight.", "Good for you, but self-defense has a pretty well-established legal definition that explicitly excludes such behavior. Basically, you can do whatever is needed to stop an attack or prevent harm, but you can't use self-defense as an excuse to continue the attack or use excessive force. Basically you need to apply the least amount of force necessary to keep yourself safe and consider all other options (like running away) as well.\n\nA person laying on the ground, unarmed is pretty much the textbook definition of not being a threat, so any attacks made on them would not fall under self-defense.", "Shes not going to fuck you", "Aye but the word is different", "If they stormed past security to get to near me then absolutely.", "hard disagree here. What the goalie did was beyond the scope of self-defense.", "You, sir, are an absolute moron.", "And any kick against the head counts as attempted murder (at least in Germany).", "While I understand how frustrating it can be to have someone who has the power to make decisions seemingly refuse to pause for self reflection, it’s important to recognize the way that people act in large groups. When you show people that you are uncertain in your own choices they are that much more likely to lose faith in you themselves, and ultimately try to undermine you. In contrast, when you stand behind your decisions (which were hopefully made with great care to begin with) people tend to respect them more. As much as you might hate the person who can never admit that they’re wrong, you also don’t respect the person who caves at the slightest hint of backlash. It’s an ugly truth, but it’s human nature.", "And his club (West Coast Eagles) are all over it on social media. There’s speculation (or just hope) she’ll come and play for their women’s team when she’s finished with soccer.", "Sexism at its finest", "Pretty sure the rules make this person an object of the field or some shit. Much like how you can't kick out at the flag or remove it. Could be dead ass wrong but I think I learned it in youth soccer trying to move a flag for a kick.", "Good job", "If you think it's bad now, wait ro see what we get once the referee shortage catches up with us.", ">Good for you.\n\nLOL.\n\nYou're right that self-defense has a well-established legal definition, though I suspect you don't realize that it varies significantly between jurisdictions -- among other reasons because some jurisdictions don't require you to consider running away, but you seem to think that they do. \n\nBut one thing holds true in at least all of the jurisdictions in which I've ever practiced law: The reasonableness of the force depends on the circumstances. And when the circumstances involve someone randomly attacking you from behind while you're at work, without any way for you to know if they're armed, kicking at their legs to prevent them from standing up until the police arrive is pretty clearly in line with the level of force a reasonable person would apply under the circumstances. \n\nThis stuff about \"well, once their butt is touching dirt there is no way they could draw a knife, stand up, and kill you\" is just silly. Of course they could, and thus preventing that is reasonable force.", "I'm not understanding. I get the card if she attacked another player, or commited a foul against a player, but this was literally some random pitch runner, Why the Fuck did she get carded for doing what security wouldn't??", "WEIGHT ROOM BITCH", "Being trained and being competent are two entirely different things. As this fella was saying, it's about the legality. \n\nBy definition where they trained as security guards and licensed to be one: yes.\n\nAre they good at being security guards: no.\n\nSurely you've worked along side someone who does a similar role but is utterly shite?", "Fully agree that the card was stupid. But that goalie was also way too angry. They had to restrain him for that long? What was he gonna do, hit the ref too? He seems a bit emotionally unstable to flip out that quickly and stay angry for that long. Usually things diffuses after a fight is broken up and pulled apart.", "Why is it people always want to take it slow and go easy on people who are clearly guilty. You did something stupid you deserve something stupid. Not this “oh let the police and the justice system and god figure it out you can’t do anything” bullshit. People need to grow a goddamn pair and stand up for what’s right", "I'm sorry but what is up with sports letting fans walk like this? While wrestling is pre determined, if someone tries to hop the rail they will get whooped by literally everyone in the ring.", "> but you never know if a fan could have a knife in their pocket or something crazy. \n\nSeems to me that is an additional reason why players should stay away from people who invade the pitch. If there is a chance the person has a knife then the person should be left to people who are trained to deal with that situation.\n\nIf the player came across someone on the street brandishing a knife they likely wouldn't walk up to the person, they would call for emergency services. Why does that change when sports are involved?", "All the security should be fired.", "Roll Tide!", "Dropped hard? DESTROYED?\n\nNah, she just knocked his ass over gently. Based on the title of the post and the video, I assumed she knocked the guy out with a flying clothesline or something.", "There just need to be more refs to be paying attention to shenanigans so play can continue and better calls are made. The NFL has a bunch of refs and they very rarely impact play, especially for how many people are out there.", "Spoken like a violent vigilante who wants to be criminally charged and civilly sued.", "Sports is different. In rec league hockey I can line up someone and hit them with my shoulder and they land on their back. \n\nAt work I get arrested and fired, probably sued. In hockey I get a 2 minute time out. And once I'm out I can do it again! Another time out. If I do it a 3rd time I'm kicked out of the game, but I can keep playing next week and I'm staying out of jail.", "Let's assume that it was a small women that tried to do the jump kick instead. Do you think the goalie shouldve done the same?", "It's probably some outsourced security company hired for being really cheap anyways.", "Right. I'm pretty sure that's what the guy above you meant. He was just using the word \"interfere\" loosely.", "If you enter the field of play, I don't give a fuck what the player does, it is self defense and if you get beaten into a pulp, you're paying for your medical bills and then you are going to face criminal charges.", "It's all fun and games until the pitch invader injures one of the players.", "So more of a \"take that!\" laugh?", "She's an Aussie...., her Brother was an Afl superstar!", "Two weeks to heal but TWO YEARS to return to professional tennis...\n\nYou'd think that with how expensive some athletes are security would be up to the task. If I were her I'd sue the shit out of the entire event.", "This is assault.. Where is the RED card and police?", "Incident starts around 2:11 for those interested.", "Damn why you gotta be such a dick?", "We really are just throwing around words like they don’t mean anything anymore aren’t we?", "Equality!", "So, he MIGHT be a threat and your good idea is to approach him and try to subdue him? \n\nAvoid them and stay away, walk towards security, it isn't the players job to try to remove him or deal with a threat.\n\nIf he had a knife and was a threat, she just made it possible for him to get close enough to attack her.\n\nThis \"threat\" stuff is BS.", "Doesn't matter what you foul them, if you're the last defender and you foul the attacking player who's about to score, it's a red card--as dictated by the rules. \n \nIn the middle of the pitch with multiple defenders between the attacker and the goalie, grabbing the shirt would be a yellow.", "No, their job is to keep things civil. There’s no way any team could prevent every fan from running onto the pitch.", "Why are people down voting this person? Some of us don't follow sports and this is an honest question. Provide answers to those uninformed if you want people to know more about the sport.", "The issue is that you don't know how dangerous someone is. The guy could be fooling around then at the last second pull a knife and shank someone. People are unpredictable.\n\nThis is why the better policy for this is to treat any pitch invader as someone with the intent to harm. You have NO business down there anyways.", "Asking the right questions", "Cousins to Kerr to Judd... the West Coke Eagles back then really did have a god tier midfield.", "Never a yellow. Games gone.", "Holy shit you guys have been inside too long. Why are you analyzing the way they got excited?", "On a side note to this, Fuck VAR!", ">Go Crows!\n\nHow dare you.", "got some videos?", "There was one fan in the video above. Is that too hard for them?", "Don’t think he’s trying to be a dick, he’s just British. All he said was he’s not sure what you’re talking about, then you countered with a slight about his reading comprehension.", "I think if someone was getting 40% of clear decisions wrong, they would be. Don't know if you've tracked that metric and have an example of someone who has been? I can't think of anyone.", "Nah, but those fans certainly learned a lesson.", "YES! Cunt punt!", "Is there any legitimacy in assuming this was all a racially motivated incident?", "[Here's one of the more well known ones.](https://youtu.be/FZXyYxhpOXc)\n\n[Here's another one during a ladder match.](https://youtu.be/UBSAkvyf5Ys)\n\n[And here's an incident from a couple weeks ago.](https://youtu.be/3UzaxZD7SA8) This one got weirder after once it was revealed the fan did it because he was catfished by someone pretending to be Seth Rollins on twitter.", "I didn't think Ted Lasso was telling the truth but when people just started yelling wanker I was surprised", "If you learn to keep your inside arm in and not push off, you can definitely use a less violent version of it in both soccer and basketball really effectively.", "Back then, it was unlikely they had ear pieces, let alone VAR (Video Assistant Referee).\n\nThey would have had 4 officials on the field: The Referee (in the middle), the assistant referees ('linesmen', with the flags on opposite halves of the field), and the 4th official between the benches.\n\nHaving been an assistant referee for a while, your focus is on the action, but trying to be aware of all other goings on behind the referee's back. In this case, I would imagine the rising volume of the crowd would have attracted their attention to some degree, and while he may not have seen the initial attack by the fan, likely would have seen the subsequent attack by the 'keeper.", "Would've been a red if it wasn't women's football, right?", "It wasn't a small woman who tried to do the jump kick instead. What's the point of your argument? Let's assume it was a blind man on a mobility scooter, or let's assume it was a small child chasing a butterfly? \n\nIt was a guy not only invading the pitch not for attention but to try to assault one of the players. He's already lost any sympathy the moment he stepped on the grass nevermind tried to interfere with the players. He's brought a game to an abrupt stop, ruined an evening for thousands of fans. And in top of all that the guy is fine the idiot walked away.", "Why would I need to make an assumption about a fake scenario that didn't happen just to help you make a point you're struggling to make? \n\nIf she's wielding a weapon then yes, do whatever is necessary to defend yourself. But I don't see small female fans running on the field to physically assault male players.", "Exactly. If the genders were reversed there would be a massive outcry.", "Ref was wrong.", "The incident starts at about 2:13 mins in for those who don’t want to watch an 8 min video.", "After Symonds started the tradition, it would be unaustralian not to", "I could ask you the same thing.", "JFC. People, skip to 2:12 if you don't want to waste a bunch of time waiting for the guy to run on the field", "Ok...", "Was lightly shoulder checked and lost his balance because he wasn't looking....\n\nOP: The Undertaker throwing Mankind off the top of the Hell in a Cell!!!!! ABSOLUTELY DEMOLISHED!! HE GOT DROPPED HARD!", "Yeah giving someone a love tap is definitely violent vigilante justice.", "But also the players should avoid engaging with the fan, distance themselves, for their own safety. I think the card makes sense if it is to incentivize that.", "He's thinking of a gracious way to give $100 to Dominican resort staff that you torpedoed outta the water? ;)", "At the time of this incident, there are four officials. Center ref, two linesmen, and a fourth official to help manage substitutions and be a barrier between the two benches, and all four would be in radio contact. \n \nAt the time of this incident, the referee could only base his decision off of what he or the other refs saw. So if one player away from the ball instigates an attack, that would often go unnoticed, but the commotion would draw the attention the officials and the second person involved who reacted to the first incident would be seen retaliating and penalized. \n \nThe classic exchange would be for player A to trip or elbow player B. Player B cries out--and the officials turn their eyes to the fracas--and then retaliates against player A. Player B gets disciplined, but not player A. Even if cameras caught the first part and it gets shown it on the jumbotron, the ref can not base nor change his decision off of that. \n \nEven 10 years ago when this happened, post-match discipline/suspension could be enacted against player A--but no guarantee of absolution for player B. (Soccer has this weird expectation that you're supposed to just let someone pummel your face and never defend yourself or fight back.) \n \nIn the modern era, there are 3 additional officials who sit in a video booth with multiple monitors and can radio to the center ref if something egregious is missed on the field. Video Assisted Referee'ing. How and when and what things can be reviewed/overturn via VAR is still evolving and every change is met with new problems and derision.", "Ah yes the greatest entitlement of all, disliking 5 minutes of your time and everyone elses being wasted so one person could save 15 seconds.", "Ok so since you're not seeing the reason for the hypothetical. \n\nSay if there was no security intervening instead, do you think the fan shouldve gotten beaten to shit by the goalie because he tried to assault the goalie first and ruined the evening for people (whatever the fuck this mean)?", "How is it excessive? Couple of kicks that didn't connect to the legs and arse and the guy walked away fine. What would you do if someone came to your place if work ran up to you and tried to kick you? \n\nWhat \"well-established (sic) legal definition\" of self defense are you using?", "He dished a few outside of the match as well", "Why do sports officials and players get so pissed off when this kind of stuff happens? It is just a dumb fan making the crowd more excited.", "Click bait political charged title aside it wasn't much of an interaction.", "To be fair, hockey was extremely conservative for many, many years, and was very resistant to video replay for anything beyond overturning/confirming goals in only the most narrow of circumstances. And it's only been in the past few years that they've opened up video review to things like offside plays leading to goals. And the penalty for a coach being wrong in challenging a goal is harsh. And replay can't overturn bad penalties, that is still entirely up to referee discretion.", "Clearly he was hoping to catch him off guard and injure him so his team would have an advantage. Also clearly the asshat has fewer brain cells than an amoeba.", "Copy link, go to streamable dot com, insert random email address and imaginary password paste link, watch video.", "Because it's funny?", "Dude was a compulsive gambler. My sister was estranged for a couple years. After reconnecting, she was engaged to this guy. So first time meeting him was a double date at a casino. This guy loses $5000. I didn't know anything about him other than he is either wealthy or a compulsive gambler. It was the latter.", "So is the guy wielding a weapon? Is he a threat to the goalie after the kick?\n\nThe point of the hypothetical is to prove that there's an appropriate response of self defence to anything. \n\nIf a kid was trying to harm me, even with a knife, the correct response is to run away or restrain him, not kick the shit out of the child because there's a difference in power.\n\nThe fan invading the pitch not only failed his kick, he also landed AWAY from the goalkeeper. But the goalie had such a bad anger management that he couldnt restrain himself from lashing out on the guy that is already on the ground. This means that the goalie was actually the one RE-INSTIGATING the violence after it already been done.\n\nAnd to put another hypothetical to prove how the opinion of most people on reddit would instantly flip on this, is imagine if this was a cop and a citizen instead. The citizen came and jump kicked the cop, the cop deflect it but instead of restraining the guy, he started to kick the shit out of the guy instead. Reddit would instantly be arms up over this, saying that that cop had anger issue and probably beats his wife at home too.", "It was only to her cousin, Wayne, anyway.", "They didn’t have to link the video you know", "First of all there is security, because of unruly fans being a risk to do exactly what this moron did. Second, why do you keep trying to use hypotheticals that aren't realistic at all to defend some drunken asshole who decided he wanted to assault a player? Did this particular goalie do something to you when you were a child? Did you rush the field and attack a player once upon a time? Let's dig into what exactly it is you're struggling with here.", "I'll take your word for it. All I heard was people clearing their throats for 10 minutes or so.", "They literally don't have that right.", "Well, at least the guy got straight back up again instead of rolling around in mock agony like most soccer players would...", "Dude, she dropped him, security was right on top of him, and he STILL got away again.", "Lol the downvotes", "I've never seen someone misunderstand what is happening in a video more than you. He didn't \"kick the shit\" out of the guy, he defended himself from the aggressor. If you start a fight and then embarrass yourself when the person you attack defeats you, you can't pretend you're the victim. You seem like someone struggling to understand context.", "When someone half your size pushes you versus someone 2x your size? Absolutely there's a difference.", "Load of shit from the ref. Horrible security considering that dude was just strolling for 20-30 seconds. If he was a crazy dude someone could actually get hurt. Good on Sam putting that wanker in his place", "not even", "I'm convinced that whoever posted that video just hates Jozy Altidore and wanted to make sure to get him fucking up in there", "Christ it's like in Chivalry when you're 1v1ing someone and a third runs in, and the two of you suddenly become a team to fuck him over.", "As much as I agree with her, it's not her job. That's what security is for.", "How can you get a yellow card on a non player?", "I also love the overcorrection with a 15 second video that says \"wait till the end\" Like nah, I only watch 70% of videos then leave.", "yeah but hes the ref, he has discretion to apply rules", "It's a criminal charge and all a player here has to say is that they felt in fear for their life or another's.", "But hypothetically what if the drunken asshole was a toddler in disguise and the goalkeeper was a coma patient hooked up to a life support system, hypothetically speaking? /s", "Ah right. I am not really an avid hockey fan, so my knowledge on the sport is limited. I do remember lots of years though in which I thought “if hockey does this, why doesn’t football?”", "Good God why did it need 2 minutes of build up", "And Mark Clatternburg is a cunt.", ">Malice at the Palace\n\nThis is a terrible example. The players went into the stands which is always completely uncalled for no matter what.", "Shes a legend", "> And to put another hypothetical to prove how the opinion of most people on reddit would instantly flip on this, is imagine if this was a cop and a citizen instead. The citizen came and jump kicked the cop, the cop deflect it but instead of restraining the guy, he started to kick the shit out of the guy instead. Reddit would instantly be arms up over this, saying that that cop had anger issue and probably beats his wife at home too.\n\nLOL. Bro he isn't a cop. Cops have the authority to physically enforce laws bestowed upon them by the state, which is why we (should, anyway) hold them to a much higher standard when it comes to using violence. I think the player went too far too, but this is such a bad line of argument that you're going to actively turn people away from your point of view.", "They didn’t have to link anything in the first place you entitled twats. Would’ve potentially taken you much longer to find the link let alone where in the link the relevant part was.", "[There's a clever three-second retort in this video that fits our conversation.](https://youtu.be/FxChP7oux1E)", "Wanker! Wanker! Wanker!", "They tackle them when its male soccer with a fan doing that. Looks like security and refs didn't care this time around other than taking it out on a player.", "Same video but main action starts [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-uMHbN-5us&t=255s)", "Black, Voss , Lappin were the lions best mids. Power was ok but not at the standard of those 3 or Akermanis for that matter", "> Not really, ever heard of retard strength?\n\nAt least you’re strong though. So that’s good.", "Ok now let's reverse this. Would everyone cheer if a man knocked a woman down? I get he's an asshole but I don't agree with cheering for knocking his bitch ass down", "Game would be more interesting if pitch invaders were free reign for the players tbf", "That didn’t really look that hard more like it took all her strength lol. Don’t these girls get beat by high schoolers on the regular? Looks like he fell just because he already had his fun lol. He still an asshat for doing it tho. The yellow card sent me lol!", "I'm not even going to comment on the rest of this dumpster fire of a comment chain but you seriously think if someone's picking a fight it's because they know how to fight? That is almost universally untrue. Have you ever been to a bar or a party before? The people picking fights are not trained in 99% of situations.", "Holy shit the first video the referee joined in hard haha", "Agreed. But reddit neckbeards love this kind of shit", "I love Reddit because whenever I find someone with just outright ridiculous opinions I can look at their post history to see all the other dumb stuff they’ve written… and you sir do not disappoint!", "goddamn you must suck at parties", "Dutch Harrison Ford really sticking up for his player.", "No need to be rude, I didn't understand what your point was. I thought we were discussing the Ajax vs AZ game which was what this comment chain was about.", "Who decides who’s an asshole?", "It’s ok as long as you fail less than the refs who could replace you. It’s really that simple.", "That's some pretty good defense from the goalie", "> How dare you.\n\nDid I find the Port Adelaide fan?", "IMO it is impeding the flow of the game. I'm not convinced that VAR as it is contributes positively to the game. Fotball is a lot more fluent than a lot of other sports.", "I'm glad this isn't a rule in American football. Always good to see some idiot or streaker who comes on the football field get clocked by a linebacker.", "Likely unsportsmanlike conduct. Wasn't her job to hit the twat and get him off the field, even though I feel it was called for.", "Allahu Alkhmar!", "You're not allowed to attack anyone just because they walk near you.", "Enes Kanter changed his last name to Freedom and then went on Tucker Carlson and said that anyone who criticizes America should just shut up.", "Anyone curious about the song at the end - Genique - Lil Bish", "Yeah, that's it. The stadiums sponsor is Chery Red Records (or was).", "I saw some at an Australian zoo, fuckers move like dinosaurs straight out of Jurassic park. I was super glad for the fence.", "Imagine the outcry if the sexes were reversed", "> Australia is basically just Britain if it was located 20 feet from the sun, lads.\n\nNot true, we have actual food, good coffee, and the ability to win at sports.", "It has less to do with liability to fans (after all, security can and do tackle field rushers) and more to do with player safety as well as not encouraging fan/player conflicts as you mentioned.\n\nThe players are the sport's greatest asset. Having them confront field rushers risks them getting injured in the process. Obviously, the rule should be a bit different when a fan rushes on and attacks a player who then has to defend themselves.", "As a player I would automatically assume they were out to hurt someone on the field of play. Steffi Graf didn't deserve to get stabbed.", "😂", "Didnt read the entire caption of the post... just the YouTube vid description. My jaw DROPPED when she received a yellow card!!! WTH???", "Same here! WTH is that?!?!", "The ref was wrong and the match and red card were voided.", "I see that it's not just American Football where the officials have to steal the spotlight and make the game all about them.", "The US is only slightly more litigious than the UK, and the idea that the US is an overly-litigious society is a myth.", "The goalie immediately backs off? His teammates were having to hold him back", "That last one everyone except the Ref who saw the guys face and knew he was a rando I think was super confused because he came down the ramp.", "They couldn't even catch him when he was lying on the ground", "It really wasn't that impressive lol. She barely bumped a guy who wasn't paying attention with her hip and he fell... because he wasn't paying attention lol", "Nah fuck that, this ref needed to use some fucking discretion and a minimal amount of thinking process. I 100% chalk it up to him.", "Source? I've never seen an American professional attack a fan that enters the field that isn't provoking anyone directly.", "Not saying I think the kicks were out of line or that he deserved the red card, but he's definitely dragged off by his teammates. He doesnt back off", "King telling JR to jump into the ring to get his lights punched out was the type of banter that made me love the WWF as a kid. Then it became all about the \"puppies\" and shit like that and I checked out.\n\nKane raping a dead girl was the last time I watched the WWE.", "https://www.skysports.com/womens-super-league-table", "I guess I interact with more MMA douchebags than you do, but you're really saying of 100 guys in a club only 1 has done some sort of combat sport. Does that sound right to you, because it seems obviously wrong to me. This also assumes you would be equally likely to fight, which I think is untrue. People who train in combat sports are probably more likely to fight, I suspect, than the general public.", "OP doesn’t understand meaning of “dropped hard.”", "Every decision from a throw in to a riot is tracked and marked in the PL, also the club marks are 60% of the referee's overall match mark", "If someone is flagrantly tresspassing on your property, refuses to leave, with clear intent to not comply and to continue to run around creating a scene, yes you can use reasonable force to subdue them. \n\n\nThis isn't about rights on private property. By your logic the security guards also wouldn't be able to apprehend field rushers. This is about player safety and avoiding then getting into an altercstion that could injure them or rile up conflict with the fan base.", "Shit was wild if you see the other angles. Dude booked it from his seat and across the whole stage to get to him. Later would go on IG to apologize to the on screen authority figure.", "Hardly if someone trespassed into my house I'm bashing you. If someone broke into my private business I'm Bashing you. Not just sit around and wait for them to fuck around", "6 years, barely any karma, hmm hmm", "Best yellow ever", "Genuine question, do you think a lack of respect for women's sports was part of his decision here? Would he do that in a men's game or no?", "Because she violently assaulted a fan. Doesn't matter that he is a dick and not supposed to be there. It is security's job to deal with him, not hers. She has no business interacting with him, especially not violently.", "I'm okay with the players deciding in this scenario.", "Akermanis surely?", "\"I thought he had the ball, your honor.\"", "Well, players involved lost a combined > $10 million salary, the Pacers' promising season was tanked, and 2 lawsuits were settled with fans. Yeah throwing a beer at a player is shitty but Artest definitely overreacted by actually charging into the stands..", "Titles that make sense are becoming rare on Reddit", "That’s a disgusting attitude", "If someone is running around \nflagrantly trespassing and causing a disturbance, private property owners (and their agents such as security guards) absolutely have the right to use an appropriate amount of force to apprehend the person and remove them from the premises. This is not assault in pretty much every single common law jurisdiction. \n\nThe issue here is a player putting themselves at risk by being a part of apprehending the field rusher instead of leaving it to the securiry guards.\n\n\"Walking\" isn't a crime. \"Running\" isn't a crime. Trespassing is. You're overly confident for someone who doesn't know what they're talking about.", "Exactly. Every time a \"harmless\" fan or streaker runs on the field, there's always a chance they're there to cause trouble:\n\nhttps://youtu.be/4Ho1GHJMFJo\n\nhttps://youtu.be/s8Vp9GfU_9M\n\nhttps://youtu.be/FlHwrfN-txg", "Lol Jesus Christ you people at entitled", "She'd make a better security", "well done, timing was perfect.", "Sooo, chances are low that he's actually a gracious, polite, secret philanthropist? :)", "You are absolutely correct.\n\nOnce the invader was on the ground the threat was over. No longer self-defence.\n\nReddit is arguing that because the invader deserved immediate consequences, the kicks were punitively justified. Unfortunately, the law does not see vigilantism that way.", "Sorry, dude was catfished?? Usually that refers to like, dating scenarios. I can't imagine he thought Seth wanted a glomping kiss during his match.", "Then there's Rugby Union. It's got a harder rulebook, yet the respect for the referees remains. Not to mention the ability of the RFU to make VAR work.", "\"Zero tolerance\" b/c it works so well in US schools.", "It would wager it's a crowd control/fire safety issue. If you want to see what can go wrong with securing a crowd away from the field, all you have to do is watch the recording of the Hillsborough disaster.", "it's funny because if gender were reversed the player would have been accused of violence against women etc... :)", "Wtf is security doing? She dropped him in front of him and he slow trotted after him??", "Her flaw was in not flinging herself to the ground grabbing her knee so we'd see that she wasn't the aggressor.", "the solution is simple. referee referees that evaluate the quality of referee decisions in real time", "Yes, I also think the VAR doesn’t work perfectly right now, but that’s mostly just because there are some issues that have to be fixed. For example, why can’t the VAR just take decisions? If the ref first has to listen to the VAR, then decide if there is enough doubt, then walk up to the VAR-screen, then look at it five times, then make a decision, that takes way too much time. In my opinion, the VAR has to be allowed to make those decisions and just give them to the ref.\n\nThere should be moments where the VAR is not included and moments where the VAR can overrule the ref, depending on what the case. If the FIFA makes clear rules for that to streamline the process, then that would work very well I think.", "Damn look at the seats they get on the sidelines. Looked like racing chairs", "I reckon a lot of player won't know her name, so then saying a player makes sense.", "That was a joke lmao", "its Alkmaar. not Alkhmar.", "So by their logic, the fan has the right to take a penalty shot right?", "That would seem to handle ~22% of their listed complaints.", "you think it would but i can assure u a group of 6-7 hooligans would go on the pitch just to fight if that happened. people are dumb.", "As someone else mentioned, Monica Seles was stabbed by a spectator. This isn't just a guy wandering around your office b/c they went in the wrong door. This is someone clearly violating norms who may have sinister intent. Like walking around the office with crazy eyes and appearing threatening. I think you should be able to tackle someone who's in your office like that.\n\nWhere's Terry Tate when you need him? \"Who's hurting productivity around here!??! WOO WOO!!\"", "[He was catfished and scammed out of 3k+](https://www.insider.com/wwe-star-seth-rollins-attacked-by-fan-over-catfishing-scam-2021-11).\n\nDude took the bait hard.", "Take a look at old WWE (WWF) videos of fans trying to jump the ring and get involved. Those beat-downs are unscripted and very real. Those guys were waiting for an opportunity to really tee off on someone.", "> Kane raping a dead girl was the last time I watched the WWE.\n\nholup", ">I remember when Monica Seles was stabbed\n\n[That was Hugh Laurie.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3NidsgBUbQ)", "You're also dealing with a sport where a stiff breeze causes the average player to lay on the ground and have a seizure.", "There's a scenario where a worker tries to help security and gets hurt. Now the company can fire them (since they are now losing money by paying someone who can't work as a result of their own actions), and/or they can get worker's comp. \n\nIf the compensation is less than their job would have paid, or they otherwise feel their compensation isn't enough, they could view suing the company as an option, arguing the company didn't do enough to protect them since security allowed a dangerous individual onto the premises to interfere with their workplace and they attempted to defend themselves.\n\nThe company would then need to argue the worker put themselves in danger by not leaving it to security. Both sides might have a valid point legally, and it could therefore get very messy.\n\nErgo, rules about not helping security.", "I was there!! My only football game I’ve ever been to and it was absolutely nuts. Do you know if there is video of this? This was in Amsterdam on dec 21 right?", "Lmfao what a fucking idiot. A fool and his money are soon parted, and this guy is a damn fool.", "According to [this article written around the time](https://bleacherreport.com/articles/993853-ajax-vs-az-referee-correct-to-red-card-goalkeeper-for-kicking-fan-who-attacked), it's because the goalkeeper kept kicking the guy when the guy was already down. By the author's opinion, it was excessive force and warranted the red card according to soccer law.\n\nDisclaimer: The opinions of the this article does not reflect the opinions of the poster (me). Said poster have no knowledge nor opinion of soccer law.", "Just amazing in general lol. Had me worried too", "By all rights it should be a straight red. Referee went soft on her, probably due to the fact the man was a massive arse and clearly unhurt.", "This kind of thing happens in mens game all the time. The difference is the security…", "One thing i like about eSports. No refs needed since the game refs it for you.", "Referees made bad decisions like this all the time.\n\nEven with VAR, they can judge it poorly when player offside because of big uniform, long arm, long leg and etc.\n\nKick a stray animal in the field? Red card.\n\nSomeone threw a bottle to your head and you threw it back? Red card.\n\nTrying to stop a fight between players which ref didnt see it cleary? Red card.", "By getting charged with assault?", "Yeah that was rough to watch but that's what ya get", "What the hell?\n\nThat was shoulder to shoulder. Clean tackle. That yellow card was bullshit.", "Was the game forfeit, or did they overturn the red card in a timely fashion and return to the field?", "Indeed, ask Steffy Graf", "Well, it's all about sportswomanship. She shouldn't resort to violence, particularly not unprovoked. Well deserved for the dude but she should know better.", "How tf is that a penalty at all. I played soccer in HS and I don’t ever remember there being a rule covering some random person charging onto the field.", "Ideally it should be the rules in favor of players' safety. But that also includes an ideal security team who will actually do their job. I don't think she would have felt inclined to check him if there was a security team already on him", "Had a ball been a mere metre in front of the feet of Kerr that jostle challenge would've been deemed fair play. An unfortunate turn of events for Kerr here. One more pitch invader and she'll be cast off; forcing her mates to pick up the pace. The manager will be rightly sore if this happens to bear out.", "he deserved a lot worse than that. what a cunt.", "You disgust me.", ">attempted violation of arts and cultural affairs.\n\n TIL that's a crime\n\nBut seriously, the scam happened years ago and he's all \"I would do things different today\"?? Bruh it happened two days ago. You didn't think to like, contact him or his agency through official channels, or report the crime to the police (useless as they may be)? I don't get it.", "Wow, I'd never seen that. From 2011? Action starts around [2:11](https://youtu.be/W-uMHbN-5us?t=131)", "In the US, it used to be Mark Geiger.\n\nFormer DC United coach, Ben Olsen, referred to it as \"The Geiger Show\".", "I understand why she did it tho. Stewards acted kinda passively and what happened with Monica Seles we know how dangerous these lunatics can be. Still a red card tho.", "Based on nothing? Fine. But your attitude is actually harmful and dangerous", "she should;ve received an award", "Jimmy Kimmel in SNL sketches.", "The rule in pro wrestling is if you get in the ring they’re going to beat the shit out of you and you better hope security gets to you first.", "How does that ref sleep at nifht", "1% might be an exaggeration but it can't be by much. The vast majority of the population does not do any combat sports, for sure 5% or less. Most people actually trained aren't picking fights, the people who do thay are just drunk assholes who think they are tough.", "Hit him harder….stupid yellow card for stupid ppl getting where they shouldn’t be.", "Man if only there was a quick way to skip to the part of the video you want to watch...", "Gotta love the click bait YouTube title, DESTROYS...", "I don't understand how after he realized he had been scammed, he thought it was actually the professional wrestler who makes a really good living that would be ruined by getting caught doing something like this was the actual scammer. Just such a fucking moron.", "Welcome to shitty IP law.", "Unless [this article](https://fanbuzz.com/pro-wrestling/katie-vicks-wwe-storyline/) is missing something, I think that person's comment is a bit inaccurate, though the storyline is still pretty messed up:\n\n> The Katie Vick storyline got even more controversial the next week, when a tape was shown of a mannequin in a casket being seduced by Triple H, who was wearing a Kane mask.", "Thats the rules. And she should know them.", "wow that was a horrible call on the refs part. i wouldnt doubt he didnt see most of the incident and only saw the pissed off goalie trying to go after the \"fan\" more. glad to hear it was overturned. wish theyd do the same for Kerr", "The knockout on the court was so satisfying though.", "At least with DMCA notices there's an albeit shitty method of punishing copyright trolls like a bot typically ends up being. YouTube and many others avoid the DMCA when they can by using their own rules, which are often just as shitty as the whole shitty DMCA that takes the approach of being guilty until proven innocent.", "BuT tHE cROwD CHeEred So iT's JusTICe", "How do they know that fan doesn't have a weapon they plan to use one one of the players while they're just wondering around on the field and security isn't doing their job? I think that's the problem. There have been plenty of examples in the past of fans attacking players.", "You tricked me into watching two minutes of soccer well done", "WTF? There is a written rule about kicking fans that are on the field? This must be the only sport that has that.", "Nobody 'has to' do anything. But it's generally expected that when you do do things, you exercise some courtesy.", "Good for her", "Ever watched soccer? They run faster after scoring than before.", "We had an Argentinian exchange student in high school. During PE, he'd absolutely rocket those nerf soccer balls (the ones that absorbed water from every surface then weighed 10 lbs). I can imagine what a pro player can do, you'd be insane to try and spar with that.", "dropped hard might be a bit of an exaggeration", "Sure, but in this situation, there were already members of security mere seconds away and they literally run for a profession. If they were genuinely scared for their safety, they would have just run away from the guy on the floor. Arguably it's even riskier to do that, given he had to run towards the guy to kick him again.", "Do you track their metrics?", "I find it hilarious that he has a subreddit dedicated to his \"refereeing\"", "But why provide 7 minutes of hogwash for a 30 second answer? It's better than \"There is a video of a soccer game where the goalie is kicked, and kicks back. Good luck finding it!\" Gee, thanks, mate.\n\nBut someone did take the extra 5 seconds and provided a time stamp... there's your hero right there, saving hundreds of people half a dozen minutes each watching zilch.", "Lol you people are ignorant as hell. It is not an easy job and I guarantee most Redditors are too fat and lazy to even be a ref to begin with.", "Yes. This. One bloke being a prick on a pitch invasion is one thing. The ENTIRE terrace taking on the first 11 of their most hated adversaries is another.\n\nOne idiot is an idiot. A hundred idiots is an army.", "I don’t either but it’s a good thing Kerr is clearly the best", "FIFA rules disagree.", "Without knowing where it is? How is that, exactly? First guy provided a 7+ minute video with no indication of exactly where the 30 second clip was. The second guy nailed it. Thanks, second guy!", "don pretend like you weren't just going to piss those minuets away on reddit anyway", "I think goalkeepers need to be protected way more. Seeing these 50/50 challenges between a playing lunging in with their feet vs the goalkeepers hands always has me cringing. It doesn't take much for something to go wrong and take a keeper out of the game, but there are hardly ever any consequences for the other player.", "So turn your back on someone who attacked you from behind because you've intuited that the crack security team that let someone attack you from behind must be seconds away from you? Ok...", "With studs.", "It's deterrence. \"Fuck with me or mine and you will get fucked up.\"", "[ Jump to 02:11 @ ajax vs az incident](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-uMHbN-5us&t=0h2m11s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: driss el aoud, Video Popularity: 89.21%, Video Length: [07:53])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@02:06](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-uMHbN-5us&t=0h2m6s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^\| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)", "[ Jump to 02:13 @ ajax vs az incident](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-uMHbN-5us&t=0h2m13s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: driss el aoud, Video Popularity: 89.19%, Video Length: [07:53])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@02:08](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-uMHbN-5us&t=0h2m8s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^\| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)", "Hmmm, I doubt that you can fully remove refs. Lots of situations require some kind of judgement and are difficult to put into absolute terms. \n\nBut yeah, concerning line technology, absolutely.", "[ Jump to 02:12 @ ajax vs az incident](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-uMHbN-5us&t=0h2m12s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: driss el aoud, Video Popularity: 89.19%, Video Length: [07:53])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@02:07](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-uMHbN-5us&t=0h2m7s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^\| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)", "Red card, directly to the head.", "That can't be a real storyline.", "The dipshit invited it by wandering onto the field.", "I wonder if any are planned.", "Terrible call, she got all ball on that, I saw it.", "It's usually men who pull stunts like this.", "Yeah but soon he's about to be both. As soon as his luck turns.", "No way is that a card. If the stewards can’t protect players from pitch invaders, the players have every right to protect themselves.", "The players are there to play a match against other players, not to physically defend themselves from drunk assholes. Guy's lucky the whole team didn't give him multiple bootings, because that's what would have gone down in any other sport that had a smaller pitch/field.", "Holy hell do you need to learn to read.", "Don't mind me, I'm just here to downvote the capital spelling of 'DESTROYS'.", "No. They would be idiots to plan something like that because it simply encourages more fans to do it.\n\nThey will have wrestlers come out of the crowd to attack wrestlers but its never set up just as a fan. And if it is, Usually the reveal happens rather quickly. Like you will see wrestlers dressed up in stuff to blend in with the crowd but once they do their attack, It comes off ASAP. \n\nHowever if you ever see the reverse, A wrestler attacking a fan, That is 100% planned.", "So, you could pay someone to go down and rile up players on the other team if you wanted to? You could harass opposing team members to their face? And that team would then receive penalties if they react?..", "Interesting trivia, but you don't need to learn Australian Rules Football to know how to shoulder barge someone. Especially a professional footballer (defender?).", "AZ = Alkmaar-Zaanstreek", "Want to be clear from the top I'm talking solely withing the technicalities of the rules, but I honestly don't understand what Law the ref is giving a yellow for. Violent or aggressive behavior to a spectator is a red card.\n\nI'm on Kerr's side here and fuck that pitch invader, but this seems like either the ref has to give a red or nothing, I don't see what Law she's justifying a yellow under.", "You also learn methods to protect your fingers though, when I dive for the ball my knees and elbows are pointed out and I use my arms as fingers with my body as the palm of my hand. My fingers do very little in that scenario.\n\nA ton of learning how to goalkeeper is learning different techniques to mitigate the impact of the game. From learning how to lunge sideways correctly when defending the goal so your whole body absorbs the shock of hitting the ground to relentlessly practicing correct hand positions to ensure we dont get them destroyed by flying soccer balls.", "I'm sorry but when there is a pitch invader, it is no longer a football match. Those dumbasses are trespassing and they must GTFO. The ref is punishing the player for something that happened outside the actual match.", "and the random dude got up without rolling around in complete agony for 2 minutes like his life is ending", "Not all security is the same. Security on the pitch isn’t there to write reports and witness streakers. They’re there to stop people. This was just poor work.", "They’ve earned a new fan. Tell me, do we suck?", "Screw that, you go on the field it should be open season, it's not like people can't say they didn't know they weren't supposed to be there, it's self inflicted. Average person being stupid on the field with world level athletes? It's like thinking it's a good idea to hop into a boxing ring and screw around, deserve to get dropped.", "Imagine if it was a dude who dropped a woman, very different discussion", "It's not easy to do a good job, but it's also not necessary to do a good job to keep it. Doing a good job is not part of the job requirement, making it an easy job.", "Always like when Hogan joined Hall and Nash and the fan got in the ring. Hall stomps his head. \n\n[https://youtu.be/FlHwrfN-txg?t=555](https://youtu.be/FlHwrfN-txg?t=555)", "Nothing will ever top the streaker who scored a goal.", "That's an outright lie, NFL referees cherry pick penalties and alter the outcome of the game with regularity. Anyone who has played the sport, knows the rules, or has two eyes can see the NFL referees union is playing the odds in Vegas. It's the most blatant display of match fixing in my lifetime. You're fucking high if you think the NFL is any less scripted than WWE. It's not even a sport at this point, it's an exhibition.", "Ah, yeah. That makes sense.", "Refs ruin sport. They think they are part of the game.", "I feel like the players shouldn't be violent towards spectators", "You posted 4 examples of players helping security stop fans with reasonable force. The OP is literally assaulting a fan with excessive violence. You literally proved my point, thanks dude.", "Wow, Mewis is lucky.", "I love how we have this notion in law that we overturn things and the bad actor that created the situation to be overturned is immune from repercussion.", "When you're posting a link to 1000 people, 4 irrelevant minutes is more than 2 wasted days. The same reason we use whole words on reddit, nstd f shrthnd, is to respect the reader's time.", "And I hope she'd do it again.", "WANKER WANKER WANKER", "You sound like every other lame sideline ref 🙄 Doubt youd last a season in their position.", "Lmao, yea I forgot about the rule that you just have to take shit from people running on the field", "[James Harrison body slammed an invading fan at a game between Steelers and Browns (NFL)](https://youtu.be/fC3xNSiRTDc). No penalty or fine for Harrison.", "Again, in football matches, especially in the UK, many/most stewards are volunteer or low-wage, it's something they do because they like to. Basically, they're not like Gilette Stadium's security guards, they more like regular fans.", "You deserve all of the violence you could face when you invade a sports field or stage of any kind.", "I wouldn't say that was being dropped hard at all.", "Title is misleading. I was expecting to see him get his ass kicked. Instead he gets shoved.", "I might be misremembering but I think it was suggested that Kane did things with her body the night of the accident. I don't know. Either way, I remember thinking it was too stupid to keep watching WWE at that point on.", "hooligans can go on the pitch and beat up players already!!", "He sounds rather like our American Baseballs Angel Hernandez. He's an myopic umpire that can't seem to get any calls right.", "Holy shit that’s insane. I thought it might be a keeper losing their shit after a tough goal, but it was way worse. The pitch invader attacks him from behind, what the actual fuck.\n\nNicest thing about American sports is pitch invading is not a thing. You try invading a football field, good fucking luck making it to next week mate.", "I'm misremembering slightly.\n\nI think it was suggested that Kane did something to the body of his girlfriend the night she was killed in a car accident (Kane was driving) but it was HHH that simulated having sex with a mannequin in a coffin to taunt Kane.\n\nEither way, it was stupid as hell.", "As an alternative perspective, in pro wrestling, if an audience member jumps the barricade, then the wrestlers and Refs are expected to shut them down ASAP , and they do. In England it’s protected by common law I believe.", "I could understand that...but the rules usually envelope a natural environment as to where the rules are applicable. I.e. the players on the field and/or normal circumstances. Is there a caveat for interacting with \"pitch invasion\" in the rule book? (I mean this as an actual question, because it would make sense.)", "Some of us are redditing at work and have to get back to it ;)", "Wasn't there some group of fans that murdered a player from their own team in South America for not winning?", "Big man invades pitch , gets dropped by a woman . \nHis friends, if he has any, won't let him forget it .", "I wouldn't be proud of that blindside. Just a sucker punch but with her body. Also there was no need to be violent.", "Not sure why everyone thinks security = law enforcement. In security training classes you literally are taught not to touch anyone. Security has less legal authority to detain than a civilian technically. So I doubt someone who makes 10/hr is going to risk being sued", "Shoulder barge is a legit challenge. But I guess it was off the ball.", "The ref wasn't wrong by the laws but he probably should've used some common sense instead of sticking to the letter of the law, judge overturned the red using their discretion\n\nLaw 12 of the IFAB laws of the game\n\n&#x200B;\n\n>SENDING-OFF OFFENCES \n> \n>VIOLENT CONDUCT\r \n\r \nViolent conduct is when a player uses or attempts to use excessive force or brutality against an opponent when not challenging for the ball, or against a team-mate, team official, match official, spectator or any other person, regardless of whether contact is made.", "The ref wasn't wrong by the laws but he probably should've used some common sense instead of sticking to the letter of the law, judge overturned the red using their discretion\n\nLaw 12 of the IFAB laws of the game\n\n&#x200B;\n\n>SENDING-OFF OFFENCES \n> \n>VIOLENT CONDUCT\r \n\r \nViolent conduct is when a player uses or attempts to use excessive force or brutality against an opponent when not challenging for the ball, or against a team-mate, team official, match official, spectator or any other person, regardless of whether contact is made.", "She got the ball.", "Not in america it’s not. Do I tell British people they are unfamiliar with how cars work because they call the trunk a boot?\n\nNo, because different cultures have different words for the same thing.\n\nQuit being pedantic.", "At least mentioned in that article, HHH suggests it:\n\n> In an even weirder spin to the storyline, Triple H introduced necrophilia as a possible option, which left Kane speechless and caused him to exit the arena.\n\nEither way, I wasn't familiar with this story, and wow, this is such an incredibly dumb plot line.", "[https://www.az.nl/en/nieuws/children-only-at-ajax-az-cup-tie](https://www.az.nl/en/nieuws/children-only-at-ajax-az-cup-tie)\n\n&#x200B;\n\nthis article was written a month later and talks about the make-up match played only in front of an audience of children. which i think is an excellent response.\n\n\\> The KNVB has decided on Tuesday that the KNVB Cup match between Ajax and AZ on January 19 in the Amsterdam Arena will be played in the company of children only. The match was initially to be played behind closed doors, but the KNVB changed its mind, on the request of Ajax.\n\n&#x200B;\n\n\\> Children under the age of 12 will be given access to impress the educational nature of the match. The KNVB turned down Ajaxs request to allow women and children to see the match, as it clashed with Dutch equality laws.", "That's great and all that you can cite that. But IFAB decided that the red card was unjustified and overturned it.", "Security guards are taught to use their words though. If there was a threat they would act differently. If the guy wasn't apparently already walking off the field, having had his fun, they probably would have acted differently. There was no reason to get violent or escalate this situation. \n\nEverybody is saying they should be fired, and that might be true if they were actually getting paid. There's a good chance that these guys are volunteering their time to be there, or getting paid a nominal fee for showing up.", "I think the interpretation by most workplaces and lawyers would be that checking someone to the ground is not an appropriate amount of force for as a response to walking around a field.\n\nLike, you can forcefully escort someone out&mdash;hand on shoulder, guiding them towards the exit&mdash;but I don't think you can just attack them into immobility.", "Ask the hooligan", "How do you ever know that? People stab other people just walking down the sidewalk. Unless they demonstrate a physical threat, you can't preemptively attack them", "At the end of the game, I'd ask the ref to give me the yellow card she used on me as a memento.", "Someone just walking down the sidewalk is allowed to be there. This person was on the field during a sporting event. Your analogy is terrible.", ">94011049commentsAwardsharesavehidereport \n> \n>Sort by: best \n> \n>View all commentsView discussions in 1 other community\n\nlol, the original headline says \"destroys\" and it's now been changed to \"dropped hard.\" despite the downvotes, truth prevails!", "As JanMichaelVincet said, when I worked as a steward we were told we could only walk after pitch invaders and only after approval over the radio.\n\nIf you wanted to invade the pitch you could have your few minutes being a dick then you would be thrown out and banned from every football stadium in the country.", "I'm not a lawyer, but I think that sports is only different for those engaged in playing the sport. Random trespassers aren't. Like if you are boxing, you can punch other people in the face. If someone runs into the ring, you can't punch them in the face.", "WHAT DO YOU MEAN I CANT ASSAULT PEOPLE", ">Malice at the Palace taught us that no matter how bad fans act, it's always the players that get the most scrutiny.\n\n\n\n\nBill Burr describes it perfectly..... https://youtu.be/w8b81UM74Ow?t=172", "Why argue with that yellow card? Should have accepted it with grace. Arguing about it made it lame like any other call.", "Those could've been two separate clips from two separate games. Wtf.", "[In American Football there is no flag for that. ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fC3xNSiRTDc) God I love James Harrison.", "Checking someone to the ground probably isn't \"reasonable force\" in this situation, though. Its just an attack. She didn't try to grab him, didn't try to corral him, she just knocked him down.", "Okay, sure, terrible analogy. You're still not allowed to attack random trespassers who aren't being violent or demonstrating a threat.", "I'm guessing you haven't been to many games in the lower league, in small stadiums generally you let them run around for a bit then when they get bored you kick them out of the stadium and ban them.", "I was like what a strange international game, but no they're both dutch..", "As an Aussie, I'm fucking outraged! One of our greatest sporting moments involve a streaker getting dropped at the cricket by a player.\n\nLet the girl play! Sam, you did nothing wrong, we'll back you baby!", "Red card was overturned at a later date and the match was restarted with only children and a parent being allowed to attend the match.", "Okay, be prepared to go to prison if someone is walking through your yard and you attack them.", "Lol wut?", "Ok that’s different but I think it’s good to set a precedent for players to not get involved. No need for them to get hurt. It’s like we don’t need retail workers stopping shoplifters. Let people paid and insured (hopefully!) to do that handle it do it", "My favorites are the guys who get in there trying to look cool against 250 lb wrestlers, then promptly get the shit kicked out of them by the referee.", "Funny how you focus only on him and not his equally useless female partner", "it was the Dutch fa that overturned it, I mean it was justified by the laws and it was overturned cause of the situation and backlash. It’s like speeding to hospital in an emergency, it’s still against the law but it’d feel wrong to get done for it", ">... and (guy who wasn't paying attention so it was more of a blindsided hit) gets dropped hard ...\n\nFTFY, OP", "Gather around children, let me tell you of the time I shot me knee....", "I literally don't know what you're trying to say. Am I sheep because I don't think people should go around knocking others to the ground? Or are other people sheep because they just go along with the crowd without questioning the action?\n\nIn this situation, are you considering yourself a \"wolf\"?", "Nice check!", "I'm curious how does a stadium ban even work? It's not like they're checking IDs and It seems like it would be easy to hide amongst tens of thousands of people.", "\"if you fans don't think we have the funds to hire Snipers, I dare you to keep this up\"", "Soooo, worth the yellow to lay the dude out.", "Yikes.", "Most players get a straight red and sometimes even a few more games ban for that. This situation is a lawsuit goldmine for a fan getting touched by a player. The whole club + federation would be hurt.", "Ja wat de neuk", "Wow what a well adjusted individual", "Yeah, I don't disagree. People end up sounding like kids who just heard it for the first time, trying it out in the playground.", "So my guess is the red card was for continuing to kick after the idiot was already on the ground.\n\nIt was a pretty understandable reaction from the goalie, but I feel like the red card was also a pretty understandable reaction from the ref. And the response from the coach was, again, very solid to the situation.\n\nI feel like the idiot that got wasted was really the only person that was explicitly in the wrong.", ">fuck the crows\n\nDamn right.", "As she should, players aren't allowed to kick anyone, even if they're in the right. This card will probably be overturned post match. \n\n\"But they were just defending themselves\" yes, they were and any player will do the same in this case, the card is just bureaucracy to stop players attacking fans like [Cantona did](https://youtu.be/2d7hHaNyKeE?t=38) here or when Evra kicked a fan in the head.", "Carded? Should have shouldered the ref too", "https://twitter.com/therealmikedean/status/816098547405684736?s=20", "Especially with the only guy on the pitch who can use his fists too...", "After only watching the video without understanding the commentary or doing any further research, my theory would be that guy bet more than he should on a certain outcome of the game, and he felt like the goalie was responsible for that outcome not happening. \n\nAnger and frustration at seeing a substantial amount of money you shouldn't really be losing slipping away might prompt a particularly impulsive individual (read: the kind of person to bet money they don't have on a sporting event) to do something in the heat of the moment that no sane individual would ever do.\n\nAnother possible theory is that the individual was mentally handicapped. I've seen videos of people with issues attacking performers and athletes and such when emotions run too hot. I tend to feel bad for everyone involved when that happens.", "listen if a nazi child can murder people in cold blood and get off on self defense this counts too", ">For example, why can’t the VAR just take decisions?\n\nBecause the referee is the ultimate authority in the pitch, the ref makes decisions.\n\nNot the assistant ref, or the linesman. Or the 4th official.\n\nA linesman can make a suggestion for the ref, but if the ref disagrees they can overrule it.\n\nWhy wouldn't that be the same for VAR?", "Normally if there's a man and a woman dealing with an unruly man, the man takes the lead.", "Ya soccer fans would think that’s “destroying” someone.", "Kickin his -not literal\\- head in and the banner in the back says \"the boot just got a brain\" \nlol.", "Please tell me where I can pay her yellow card fine? Thank you Kerr!", "You have to use [Aussie Rules](https://www.google.com/search?q=hip+and+shoulder+aussie+rules&oq=hip+and+shoulder+aussie+rules&aqs=chrome..69i57j33i299.18250j0j9&client=ms-android-samsung-gs-rev1&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8) in the search terms", "If she'd punched the guy I might have thought to be deserving of a yellow as it would be too excessive but this was just a little bump against someone committing a crime and disrupting the game.", "Hahahaha", "There’s a phrase I want to call you it’s in [this script](http://shakespeare.mit.edu/hamlet/full.html)", "Fuck that guy and good on her!", "Fucking useless officials", "It wouldn't be a problem if they were just synonyms but you guys decide to call something absolutely unrelated football.", "That impact looked similar to two people accidentally bumping into each other in a clothing store.", "I’m blown away that people are victimizing this douchebag, lol.", "Being fat and lazy doesn't exclude me from criticizing their work though. I can be the fattest fat fuck on this planet but I can still criticize it.\n\nIt's a hard job and thankless job no doubt. But if a dude constantly makes the wrong calls, even with VAR and what not, then he deserves a review to see if he's qualified for the job.\n\nRight now there's simply no consequences to their mistakes.", "I can only talk about what happens in a smaller stadium but we would have a couple of CCTV operators that would scan the crowd for people's faces on the ban list then call it out on the radio. We would always let them pay and enter before throwing them out. Sometimes they would walk around to another entrance, pay again then get thrown out again.", "You can run a lot faster without the ball...", "What security?", "Probably because the security guard has been instructed to never make physical contact, or else they’ll be instantly sued into total oblivion. \n\nTo be clear: I agree with what the player did. The dude is a jerk and deserved it.\n\nBuuuuut…. There is a chance that he’ll sue her for some obscure neck injury that has now “ruined his life.”", "She deserved the card, yes. She should've taken it with pride.", "Oh damn... never thought of that. I will try that now.", "So you agree that OP was an unnecessary act of battery?", "Let's ask Tom Orvebo", "Well, some of their other complaints, you can’t really solve.", "refs call this bullshit, but won't do anything about blatant diving. What a fucking joke.", "they both got their names from the same original game, and it was the british who gave us the word soccer.", "keep digging, this is hilarious", "jomboy where you at", "You understand the concept that just because the rules are there doesn't mean it's right? Like 60 years ago in America racism was legal, doesnt make it right for someone to be racist.", "Wait a couple years and age restrictions shouldn't be an issue /s", "I feel like I'm missing something. Can someone explain this sub to me? Why do they hate Mike Dean?", "If the librarian has issued me a trespass and I'm still there being a fuck face? Absolutely.", "Who has cleats on to do said kicking with… like those road rage people we see on YouTube who decide to get into a fist fight with someone on a motorcycle. Biker has a helmet, armored clothing and carbon fiber knuckles; who do you think is going to win.", "[for sciences only](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njR865jfcmM)", "The rules about players taking on the security job without being asked? Disagree. They're there to play football. If the security is sub-par that sucks, but it's not her job and she doesn't have liability insurance for breaking a fan's shoulder regardless if they were disrupting a game.", "Okay that's too much commitment to a bit lol", "Got a yellow card for doing security's job for them. Smh", "Other than this video, I know nothing about him, but that coach was scary calm. That is not a man to be trifled with.", "The tender was straight up in fight mode. As a staff member in plain clothes comes from his right (our left), you can see he's ready to throw punches before he realizes it's not a fan/hooligan.", "I can't read the article because it doesn't allow non-Americans to access the site (what?) but I also remember Jerry Lawler freaking out at what HHH said about what Kane did and I remember it being suggested that HHH wasn't just implying something but actually had inside information.\n\nIt was a long time ago but at that point my enjoyment of WWE was already starting to fade. It was starting to get really trashy at a certain point and the Kane/HHH storyline pushed me over the edge.", "The fan was a dick, but she was unecessarily violent. \n\nFirst time I've literally seen the shit hit the fan.", "During the sex scene with HHH, the mannequin's head pops and liquid squirts out, at which point HHH exclaims, \"I screwed her brains out.\"\n\nI didn't see that part. I stopped watching the night it was suggested Kane was screwing a dead person. The coffin scene happened after the fact.", "and then sooner or later a $10 million a year player breaks their hand punching some asshole and can't play for months", "He actually didn’t tell anyone to shut up. He used the time on Carlson to expose the inhumanity in his home country of Turkey as well as genocide in China. He’s proud to have earned his U.S citizenship and, frankly, it’s immigrants like him who make the U.S a better place.", "You're trying to use your random no name high school experience...as a position of authority for international official league rules? ....can I ask what went through your mind to think that made sense?", "Is this a real suggestion or a Reddit karma suggestion?", "She got a yellow on the pitch, but she is pure gold in our hearts", "I believe it was a [Andre Escobar (no relation to pablo)](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andr%C3%A9s_Escobar#:~:text=On%20July%202%2C%201994%2C%20Escobar,image%20of%20the%20country%20internationally.)", "> The OP is literally assaulting a fan with excessive violence\n\nShort memory huh?", "I was expecting the kick to be brutal or something. The keeper barely taps the guy. Wtf.", "This is plain false. Making it to the top leagues as a referee is immensely difficult. Referee evaluators will mark you down for the smallest mistakes and that could easily cost you games", "Part of me thinks that's what the fan wants too", "There are evaluators that score you based on how well you referee games. They determine if you are able to ref higher level games.", "She hit him from behind, he had no idea it was coming. Let's not act like this woman dragged him off the pitch or anything.", "Was that an Oilers jersey?", "All the people who downvoted you clearly don't know the rules...", "What a stupid title he didn't get \"destroyed\" or even attacked she bumped into him from the side when he wasn't looking and got knocked down. He got right up and ran away from security. How is that getting \"destroyed\"? I have seen harder hits in peewee football", "Especially soccer hooligans, many who care much more about fighting than the game.", "Poor guy, women are so violent and abusive smh", "You havent seen many pitch invasions have you?\n\nThis is the champions league, not some hokey sunday beer league", "Why are we not talking about \"Get off you cunt!\"", "You're bragging about fighting your mentally handicapped brother on reddit homes, you don't get an opinion.", "Why lmfao that's ridiculous", "You're right, any intentions. They could be bipolar and having a manic episode that causes them to think it's ok to get on the field for a picture. I think that is equally as likely as an invader harboring intentions to harm the players.", "A lot of it is timing, like hitting a perfect golf shot it is more than brute force", "Please tell me you're joking", "Dude after the incident, the guy still thought it was Seth Rollins who scammed him", "A lawsuit goldmine? For what?", "Not even a foul. It was shoulder to shoulder. Horrible ref.", "If you are a trespassing asshole people should be allowed to beat you up", "Right?! Not only not a card, not even a foul.", "I'll re-do the title for you 'Wee drunk pitch invader gets blind-side shoulder barged by female football player'.", "The ref sara persson is a complete fucking moron", "What are you even talking about? You tried to prove that Americans are excessively violent in sports, and post examples of them not doing that. You proved my point from the first post, then attempted to backpedal, then try to make some sort of question checklist making yourself even more foolish. People like you just can't accept being wrong, and get incredibly tilted by a random stranger on the internet proving you wrong over and over.\n\nSince the argument is over and you clearly have nothing else useful to add, then we need to end this discussion. Since I know you don't understand that it is, I'll make it easy on you and end it by adding you to the block list...someone has to be the adult in the conversation after all. You can reply to it to get your angst out, but I will neither see it nor be able to reply.\n\nSeriously some people just have no situational awareness of the conversation, try to work on what is actually being said instead of pretending like you won the argument you made up in your head. I wish you the best.", "Factos 👍👀", "One of my friends was a goalie and had his career ended like this. The guy on the other team kicked the ball too far in front of him on a break away, so my friend dropped to his knees and grabbed it. The other player didn't even try for the ball, just kicked him in the face as hard as he could.\n\nHe got knocked unconscious with a severe concussion, broke his nose, cheek, and eye socket, and was left partially blind in one eye.\n\nThe ref didn't call anything and even ruled it a goal, because he dropped the ball and the guy kicked it in. He also gave the coach a red card for running onto the field to see if my friend was ok.", "That's how it normally is, I got really lucky and landed a job as security with a hospital, everyone I work with are fairly in shape and competent but we've been taking over other sites that had insanely low paid outsourced security but I make 18.50 a hour and they take anywhere from 8.50 starting to 10, you 100% get what you pay for.", "This was absolutely handled correctly by the player and ref. Dude deserved worse than he got but if you don't give her a yellowcard it sets a precedent that players can help stop streakers in this way. Which is just massive liability in all regards, player hurts somebody, player gets hurt hitting somebody, etc. In a perfect world, sure. Give jackasses the people's elbow and let security cart them off. Gg", "Kerr is my absolute favorite women's soccer player. Her fluidity and overall athleticism is on a completely different level.", "Yeah but my limit is when someone doesn’t even try. This is bad security especially when it’s a male invading the fucking stadium and also when people have been attacked by stuff like this in the past. \n\nIt’s part of this culture where only approved people can fight back or put a defense. What if the people hired to protect you don’t do anything though?", "Soccer players can't use their hands anyway. A broken hand might be an advantage.\n\nNot really, and I get your point.", "So violent.", "The video thumbnail got me. It looks like she’s straight up buried a mannequin head first in the pitch, and it’s falling over. 😂", "Why is the opposing team all referees? That doesn’t seem fair", "Those dudes on the resort are probably making around $150 a month, so it would have been a nice deal for them.", "Security's job is rarely if ever to get violent. It's to prevent and mitigate problems. \n\nBy being there and chasing him off the field they were likely doing exactly their job.\n\nSimilar to how most retail companies expressly forbid their employees from trying to stop shoplifters. The risk to the business (due to medical claims, worker's comp, etc.) in the event of an injuary far outweighs the gains by stopping theft.", "Why is she allowed/encouraged to be violent?\n\nLook, I understand the guy is a jackass and no one in the stadium likes him in that moment, but does that really give her an excuse to be violent because he's disrupting the match?", "Two wrongs don't make a right.\n\nIt's a soccer game, not a gladiator fight.", "Probably a strong sense of justice. I get similar and it’s also why I hate unsportsmanlike like play when I’m watching and competing.", "For being assaulted by a famous professional football player, whose job has nothing whatsoever to do with tackling/stopping fans, in front of thousands of audience and ~50 cameras while non-violently trespassing into the field. Players are strictly advised against doing this very thing because it's a colossal liability.", "From what I read in the article, he still doesn't seem to understand that the wrestler wasn't the one who scammed him.", "The first one seems like a lovely lawsuit. Using lethal force after immediately taking someone down?", "Yes. \n\nAny adult who wanders onto the field of play or enters a boxing/wrestling ring deserves whatever happens to them, even if it results in a TBI.", "No, it would never be an assault charge.", "He’s trespassing. Much worse stuff has happened to people that trespass than getting tackled.\n\nMy main wonder is, why is it a lawsuit goldmine? The man suffers no injury from this, no direct or indirect loss of income. This isn’t in the US where you can sue for 200 billion dollars in emotional damages. Especially as it is this guys reckless behavior which leads him into this situation anyway. \n\nSure, he could try to file criminal charges for violent conduct, but that’s about it. Which is hardly a “lawsuit goldmine”.", "Sam Kerr is a fucking legend", "So some guy runs on the pitch and now all the lady players are required to pile on him?", "I'll take a little card over an assault charge any day", "Someone who doesn't follow soccer/futbol can someone explain yellow and red cards?", "A judge overturning the ref is the system working as designed. The rules indicated a red card, an appeal escalated the judgement to a higher authority. This is how the system works. This is how all legal systems work.", "He certainly didn't even try to kick him hard.. because the shitbag attacker took two kicks to the legs and was able to walk afterward. If a pro goalie wants to hurt you with a kick, they're going to boot you like [a 90meter send](https://youtu.be/QUp6OyrHoMc?t=3m23s).", "Sam Kerr disagrees", "Flip the bird and ask for a red", "So he can sue her for violent conduct. A criminal investigation.\n\nBut he suffers no actual injury from this, so there’s no lawsuit for tort. iirc the access to suing for emotional damages is pretty limited in the UK, and demands concrete evidence. Furthermore, it’s the guys own actions who lead him into a situation where this happens.\n\nHardly a lawsuit goldmine imo.", "Who care", "It 100% can be planned. My uncle is a stunt-coordinator/stuntman and he's worked gigs where he's the \"drunk asshole who jumps the fence and gets in the ring.\"", "Alright, I was mostly with you, but now you're just being a shit.", "Yeah, this is assault. He should probably sue her, and she should probably be arrested.", "Keyboard warrior champ 2020 has entered the chat", "Bit of a difference, Skippy.", "Thanks, thats a great answer", "Good", "Oh do go on", "Good", "Compared to you as a baby?", "Mate, you just watched a short video and then completely concocted an elaborate alternate reality in order to justify your satisfaction of watching a guy get hit.\n\nThe level of cognitive dissonance you were able to produce when confronted with the fact that you would be absolutely outraged if the genders were swapped should horrify you. Probably won't, though.\n\nStay safe, friend.", "Can I ask the rationale behind this statement?\n\nIf someone illegally enters the field of play, why aren’t I allowed to “assault” them as I would anyone else in the field of play? Obviously this makes more sense in a game like rugby or American football though\n\nWouldn’t the fact that players can’t touch you only incentivize field invaders?", "NGL, The title got me. I thought she was gonna drop some one hard. LOL at \"DESTROYS pitch invader\"... She barely hit him.", "Got it, thanks for the insight", "Well let’s see. I’m saying I have multiple years experience playing soccer in which I have never encountered this rule nor seen it enforced. I never claimed to be an authority, I was just stating my experience and that I’ve never seen this rule before. \n\nWithout knowing it’s a rule this clip just looks like the ref throwing around the tiny bit of power they have for basically zero reason. For all they knew that guy could’ve had a knife and tried to stab one of the players, so her taking the guy down seems to me like going above and beyond by protecting her teammates and the other team’s players.", "Monica Seles", "She assaulted a random person. Not her job to tackle people running on field...", "Shit - was she playing Steffi?", "never seen this full incident before that was so chaotic", "Tell me you're an American incel without telling me you're an American incel.", "Same! I get so angry at selfish and unjust behavior towards others. When I drive…? Forget about it!!", "I mean. He got hit, was able to turn and backpedal once before falling. Hard would be completely off the feet.", "Wtf is this a rec league?! Dude was causally strolling around the pitch for far too long.", "He should have goalie kicked his head off his body into the opposing net. The team walking off was brilliant, I wish American football had the balls to do these things to keep refs in check. This filled with me pride in humanity.", "100% worth the card.", "Yellow card is for a foul, two yellow cards equal a red card which means the player will be sent off for the rest of the game and face future match bans based on the severity of the fouls.\n\nInstant red cards can be given for severe fouls.", "Good for her... Did he say anything?\nActions have consequences. Lol", "Not at the time, but the attacker did it so Steffi could take the #1 spot.", "\"wee\".\n\nAwww bless the little lad, he doesn't know what he's doing!", "That's just asking for trouble. You will not catch WWE or AEW doing that on TV. Some small local promotion is a whole different story.\n\nWell and ROH.", "That's also true.", ">much worse stuff has happened to people that trespass\n\nIt certainly has. However, the fact that someone is trespassing does not give you the legal right to physically assault them. There’s no two ways about it. If the guy wanted to press for a lawsuit here, it’s highly likely he’d be successful \n\nYou wouldn’t file for violent conduct, I’m not sure how much you know about the law but this is a clear case of assault and battery- the level of harm required is low, so long as harm exists, which it clearly does. Even psychological harm can be a battery, believe it or not. No injury or loss of income is required. There’s a case where a guy stood outside a woman’s window late at night and he was successfully charged with assault", "worth", "Get a proxy.", "Damn, if it hadn’t been overturned that would have led to fans just coming down and harassing all the opposing players until they all got sent off", "Sam Kerr does not like men.", "Yea - it was a while ago. I just remember thinking shit would change with how fans that entered the playing field would be treated.", "Tell me you're an Aussie simp without telling me you're an Aussie simp.", "Why do you assume their gender?", "Can 100% understand the reaction of the keeper [after seeing the replay at 4:23](https://youtu.be/W-uMHbN-5us?t=263). Holy shit, that guy wanted to end the keeper's career.", "Tough girl. Lol nice, usually that doesn’t work out well in the long run", "A lot of people just don't play or watch sports apparently... You get harder bumps from celebrating.", "He does back off all by himself after the second kick, watch the video agian, he kicks him twice, then once he actually is under control by security he stops kicking and steps back. His teammates start holding him back after that. Yes his teammates do step in between them after he already stopped kicking the guy and the goalie does look like he wants back at the guy but if he was actually going to do anything to him if he got there who knows.\n\nI don't understand how you can watch that video and say he doesn't back off when he stops kicking the guy and steps away all on his own, his team getting in between them comes after that. Was he pissed off and should have tried to claim down more after? Sure but he stopped kicking the guy all on his own.", "She's a professional athlete, probably twice as strong as the dude", "Ego was destroyed", "He had been on the pitch for 30 seconds and security hadn’t done a darn thing", "Yes that's how trespassing works. you don't give any warnings, in a section of your house where guests or deliveries are common place. You just run up and start beating on people. Fucking Redditors making up retarded scenarios to win retarded arguments. God damn you people are dense", "Yep. The players job is to play soccer and not doing any security enforcing. At least she didn’t get fined", "That’s a disgusting attitude", "As it should have been, hell , I don't know what the laws are over there but that could also be considered an assault.", "No, you just move away from them when they're on the floor. Or look behind you as you run, something footballers do all of the time during a game. If they can track 10+ players and a small moving object over their shoulder while they're running, they can keep an eye on a guy lying on the floor.", "Gotta ask, by you is shoving people to the ground like that allowed? by the law, I mean. Just wondering.", "He literally said \"I feel like they should just keep their mouth shut and stop criticizing the greatest nation in the world and they should focus on their freedoms and their human rights and democracy.\"", "The lady, as in \"Sam\".", "Was it a bad choice? It protects the league from someone coming back with the police saying they were assaulted. \n\nIt seems like a smart move to me after a player hits a fan, for whatever the reason.", "The security team could have easily surrounded him without being violent. A retail employee and a security guard is kind of a silly comparison, and the stakes are higher when the person could potentially harm a professional athlete (monetarily that is)", "Ahhh yes the goalie is from my country, Costa Rica. He’s still around playing in the local league. I’m sorry to tell you he sucks as person. He has some serious issues and is pretty much a piece of shit. His name is Esteban Alvarado.", "How is that not... You realize the guy on the ground can choose to get up and resume his attack right?", "Best tackle in two sports named football.", "It's fine, just fall down afterwards and accuse the dude of injuring you", ">The security team could have easily surrounded him without being violent. \n\nAgreed, but at that point the interruption was largely finished. Surrounding him escalates the situation and potentially pressures him to be violent. Yeah the guy is likely just some jackass, but who knows if he's not mentally stable and likely to attack if he feels cornered. The risk of violence isn't worth the few moments saved by escalating things, at least in my view.\n\nIf you look closely, they move close to him to help him up and usher him off the field. He ignores the help and moves by himself, so they follow.\n\n> A retail employee and a security guard is kind of a silly comparison\n\nIs it? I may be wrong but it's my understanding that even private security in shopping centers are instructed to not physically apprehend shoplifters. The point is largely the same - having a bodies in security uniforms is mostly a deterrent, not ready in waiting force.\n\nOther forms of security (ex: Secret Service protecting POTUS) are entirely different than event security.", "A violent woman unfortunately. Even if the little boy was a jerk. Should probably be tested for stereoroid use otherwise she might do this to other players or possibly her boyfriend/husband", "You're talking like she beat him half to death. And why is she allowed/encouraged to shove him to the ground? Because no one knows what his intentions are. In 1993 a German man stabbed Monica Seles while she was playing Tennis because he was a fan of German tennis player Steffi Graff and hoped injuring Seles would help Graff get back to the number one world ranking.\n\nThe person invading the pitch is probably a drunken idiot, but they could be a deranged person who is aiming to hurt you or someone else on the pitch. So do you stand around while security take their time or do you knock him to the ground? I don't at all disagree with her decision. If she knocked him to the ground, stomped the groin and then kicked him in the skull 5 times then yes I'd argue she did not have reason for such force but all she did was shove the guy and it was entirely his fault for putting himself in that situation.", "Should have got a metal", "“Dropped hard” lmao, she bumped into him and the dude gently fell over", "You don't come to reddit expecting the time youre going to waste here to be respected. It is definitely entitled to come here and expect your time to be respected.", "You can't say shit because I don't respect you as a human", "\"If the guy wanted to press for a lawsuit here, it's highly likely he'd be successful\"\n\nAre you a solicitor or in any way educated in UK law?", "I understand why it’s the case right now, but perhaps the rules need changing then. Basketball has 2 or 3 refs on the field with approximately equal authority. If the situation before the VAR was sometimes ridiculous, but now it takes too long, then something has to change in the way decisions are made.", "> Like, let's put aside the fact that it's a soccer field. Dude's being a dick, in a place he's not supposed to be. If I'm in an office and hip and shoulder check someone trespassing in the office, knocking them to the ground, I've committed assault, no?\n\nYou mean \"battery\" in most jurisdictions, and probably not. If you asked the guy to leave and he failed to do so, or it's clear he's not meant to be there, taking \"reasonable action\" to prevent him continuing to occupy the space might be justified legally. If security can legally man-handle him out of there, so can any staff member. Their contract/training might say otherwise, of course.", "Ah right, fair enough. I don’t know a lot about US law, just throwing it in there to show what it isnt\n\nI’ll remove it for clarity’s sake", "Partially! I’m currently a solicitor in training, I have a law degree and in 2 years time (if all goes well) I will be a fully qualified solicitor. The thing to remember is that often the law is not “moral” like a lot of people think, it is not a moral arbiter for what is right and wrong. Even though in a survey of 100 people I’m sure 90+ would agree she didnt really do anything wrong (and so do I)… it is still not a legal thing to do\n\nBy the way, just a tip, if you want to quote someone, type a > then the words. It will show as Reddit’s little quote thing, with the lines", "There's a pretty significant difference between manhandling someone out of an area in which they are trespassing and just knocking them to the ground and walking away.", "The old school logic\n\nIt is okay for someone to assault you but dare to defend yourself and you get fucked", "If he really did have malicious intentions I think bumping him to the ground would make things worse. She obviously didn’t think he was there to kill or harm anyone because she bumped him and then he got right back up and continued walking. Seemed more like a frustration thing than a this guy could potentially harm someone thing.", "I mean when all is said and done it was a foul.", "Lol Americans are too dumb to understand the nuances of the game. /s", "I didnt brag? I mentioned my experience fighting my older brother? The fuck is wrong with you? Thats the angle you take? You cant win the arguement so you try to wail that Im a bad person? Nice.", "\"Took an arrow to the knee\"", "...You're also recontextualizing the situation to win an argument, though...? You're getting mad at me for doing a thing that you just did to me.\n\nIf someone walks into Walmart and security asks them to leave, security can't just start punching them in the face if they refuse. When you're talking about \"bashing someone who broke into your private business\", that's what it seems like you're talking about.\n\nIf someone actually breaks in, and you have a reason to believe they might attack you, you might be able to hit them. A guy running through a soccer field doesn't reasonably put the players in fear for their safety. You can't just hit people for being in places they're not supposed to be.", "Jesus fuck......", "She didn't tackle him. Just a simple body check. Plus, he deserved it. Needed to be taught a lesson. No one else was doing it. Security was taking their sweet time. So she took matters into her own hands. Nothing wrong with that.", "good that's assault.", "If she didn't do it then security wouldn't have got him. You just said that. So she helped them catch him. Don't see the problem.", "Whole team should have walked off in support.", "Absolutely. Plenty people would agree.", "Where was security?!", "He kills.me everytime.", "It looks to me like he takes a kick, begins taking second, official lands on top of guy, finishes second kick (can't fault him there), begins 3rd kick, gets startled by dude in grey running in from the left, then startled by teammates running in from right, realizes no one else is attacking him, and tries to go back to kicking him. \n \nI see what you mean because, yeah, technically there was a pause in the kicking after the official got there, but I don't think it was because the official got there. If that was the reason, then why would he immediately have to be held back by his teammates? The official is still there", "The people complaining about her behavior are also the same guys that make fun of women's teams for not being as strong or fast as men's teams. Theyre just here to rag on women.", "Walmart is a multi mega corporation who don't want to get into any trouble what's so ever. Ofcourse. \n\nYes my private business of WALMART. Wtf\n\nAnd I clearly said broke into my home. Inside. In the house. Can guarantee if somone had broken into your house you could easily fight them off and claim self defence.\n\nThis Soccer player is a female public figure on private property. I'm willing to bet she could claim that she thought this random person was going to assault her. Not to mention the only negative she got was a yellow card from the ref. The police didn't give a fuck, she wasn't arrested for assaulting the dude. She wasn't even ejected. She was literally cautioned for unsportsmanlike behaviour. \n\nIn your scenario somone walks on your lawn, you go out and push them over and a cop comes over and says \" Ah man that's a warning don't be mean\". Literally dense brain", "From what I understand trespassing does not meet that, but if someone is trespassing on your property and you shoot them you can just make it apply, right? Good old \"he was coming at me so I shot him 17 times in the back\".", "The difference was NBA players going into the stands to beat up the fans. That standard shouldn't apply for when the fans enter the field of play to attack you - as was the case here", "In Australia, we are very strict with pitch invaders. The fine is about $6000 (US$4260) and can led to total ban from attending any other games.", "Control your emotions and you won't get penalized. He was clearly heading off-field and continued moving in that same direction after he got up. This accomplished nothing.", "That card should be rescinded and the ref should be banned for a year for encouraging that fan behavior", "Lol I have already watched the video in the past and quit after the fun part happened. This took me to people getting interviewed and I'm all FUCK YOU DUDE. Lol, I've seen it before and quit after the fun part. I'm an idiot", "Spoken like a domestic violence enthusiast", "I mean she knocked him over I guess", "Yes, ignore everything you see and all evidence. Maybe just attack every fan in the stands then?", "Cause they usually aren't paying security to be physical. \n\nDon't know the rules there but having worked 'Event Staff' in the US, you may not be able to even touch people unless you are special staff. And even then, these are people who are generally making a few bucks on the side and have had no training for subduing someone. \n\nSo, they run the risk of hurting the idiot or getting hurt themselves. Neither are good options.", "Probably because youtube hid them all entirely", "Good manager.", "You're overconfidently wrong, and lying about what happened.", "\"Gets dropped hard\" \n\nVideo title: \"DESTROYS\"\n\nI just saw a guy get knocked down.", "Lol is this true? People have been sliding from that far back a ton", "Your rugby team just got lengthed by Scotland and you are currently winning the cricket, which is a sport for pussies. Your national dish is a chicken parma. Your coffee is imported like the rest of the world. Sit down", "security can we at least get a fucking jog to look like you're trying?", "If someone is trespassing they should be lit up", "Exactly right. This sub is packed with undereducated kids and when sports is involved, it brings out the lowest common denominators.", "Surround him? And then, what? \n\nThe comparison to a retail security guard was apt. Do you think arena security gets different training than mall cops? The jobs are virtually the same. You watch and report and are generally not allowed to touch anyone. \n\nSurrounding him does no good unless you are going to restrain him. And to be honest, I have done the work and it doesn't pay enough to risk getting hurt scrapping with a drunken asshole.", "You understand that just because kiddos think something is cool that doesn't make it legal or right. Like 60 seconds ago in America, assaulting someone was illegal, doesn't make it right to assault someone just because they delayed your game for 20 seconds taking a selfie.", "No, you're wrong.", "What if he struggles? Are you going to hold him down? How? What if he gets hurt? What if you get hurt. \n\nEvent Staff security is generally eyes and ears. They aren't trained or paid enough to risk fighting with drunks.", "Thanks for being a shit to me when I did nothing to you. Keep supporting the lie about the 20 second delay being 90 minutes, and the morally bankrupt belief that a brief and harmless delay justifies vigilante violence.", ">Yes, ignore everything you see and all evidence.\n\nI see a man obviously not in his right mind running around a football pitch. I can't see if he's armed. I can't tell if he's looking for a specific girl to attack. I can't tell his motive. \n\n>Maybe just attack every fan in the stands then? \n\nThis is a really weird statement. Is everyone in the stands running around the pitch looking like they are searching for a player to hit?", "No. It's the police's job. Security has no training or tools to handle physical encounters and frankly they also don't get paid enough to risk getting hurt.", "That'd normally be a red tbh, justified or otherwise.", "The rules are dumb.", "Just an FYI, most security officers in the US are making minimum wage and working odd hours. I used to work at an MLS stadium and one of the ushers whose job it was to guard access to the field level was a woman in her 80s who had recently survived a bout with botulism. Fun fact: that didn't stop Hope Solo's husband from literally pushing her around when he was denied access. Just saying there isn't a lot beyond common courtesy keeping the peace at these events.", "That’s soccer in a nut shell", "Who goes to women's soccer games? World cup winning teams have lost to 16 year old boys.\n\nNo, I don't think I'm better then them in soccer.", "I guess assault is totally fine when it's a woman.\n\nOh noes, a yellow card!!\n\nShe should be in jail for that attack.", "Wow. This is such an incorrect statement. \n\nThey do not have the right to assault him. That is why they usually have cops at these events. Security is only eyes and ears.", "Dropped hard? Nah. Like they bumped each other in the hallway and he just fell.", "#GOOD.\n\nIt's not her job to assault people; that's what security is for. She got the bare minimum of what she deserved. The guy wasn't hurting anyone.", "Absolutely insane to punish the player at all.", "Fuck that player.\n\nThe people running on the field are ten times more entertaining than this dumb sport. \n\nI hope she got reprimanded even harder than just a flag. This looks like assault to me; that guy wasn't attacking or harming anyone.", "That is literally a crime. \n\nI have even better one. I will just murder Salah before next Liverpool game and then bet against them - I am sure they will be devastated because they lost their teammate and wouldnt play well. I gamed the system and won big money on a bet", "> I see a man obviously not in his right mind running around a football pitch. \n\nOnly if you're a liar, which you are. Those of us who aren't liars see a guy walking and taking a selfie. Those of us who aren't emotionally crippled sociopaths don't immediately think \"let's commit unprovoked violence\".\n\n\n\n> I can't see if he's armed. \n\nThe same dishonest and juvenile claim could be made about all 2,000 people in the stands. By your warped and socially stunted logic, I guess you should just machine gun all the fans just to be safe?\n\n> I can't tell if he's looking for a specific girl to attack.\n\nSure. Don't let the fact he's not doing that and is drunkenly just walking away from all the players and taking a selfie get in the way of your false urge to commit needless violence.\n\n\n> I can't tell his motive.\n\nWell then who cares about laws or morality, when you see someone harmlessly walking and you can't determine their motive, I guess senseless violence is your only idea. Sounds charming.\n\n> This is a really weird statement.\n\nWhat's weird is you think you should violently attack people because of your own disability to read situations, understand laws, and comprehend basic human decency.\n\n\n> Is everyone in the stands running around the pitch looking like they are searching for a player to hit?\n\nAccording to your depraved logic, all it takes to justify instigating violence is for you to be confused about their motive.", "Not so random. It would be different if he weren't delaying a game on a field. It would be more random if another spectator had done it though. THEN you could say \"it's not their job....\"", "Nah, fuck that violent cunt. Hope she gets sued or something. It's not her job to assault people. \n\nThese crowd/fan antics are part of the history of sports. Hopefully she stops participating in that history soon.", "New rule: if you invade the pitch you're fair game for any of the players.", "USA: So what I'm hearing is players need to be armed?", "Can someone explain why this is a penalty at all? Cause this is a fan who isn’t supposed to be here and she did something. Is there a rule in the book that says you can’t do that ?", "Yeah, the guy’s a dick but he was just walking around being a dick, he doesn’t really threaten the players at all. So it wasn’t actually just a player striking a pitch invader but an unprovoked attack. \n\nLike .. I understand and internally agree with her, but she got off kinda lucky really.\n\nIf someone where I works got into a staff only area and started mouthing off into his Snapchat and I lamped him one I’d be out on my arse.\n\nI think we all sympathise with her frustration and enjoy seeing him get hit, but yeah professional standards, legal liabilities, and just the fact they’re representing a brand and are role models to kids, you don’t get to lash out… however satisfying it is.", "Pretty good Trouba impersonation.", "If you cannot behave like an adult. I'll just block you.", "God, a fan messing with their actual soccer in England? I figured he'd be dragged out into the streets, and yet for some reason, this counts as a penalty? Is there a rule about knocking down fans who are on the field?", "If she deserves punishment let the league fine her. Why give her a penalty within a game..", "Lmao for real? That's hilarious. I wonder if the decision was political.", "The same reason if someone walks into your house you can't start hitting them unless you can prove they were a threat to you or others. \n\nLegally someone can walk in your house, pick up the TV you are watching and walk out with it and you can't attack them. You are required to record and report it so they can be arrested, detained and tried by a jury.", "Link me one instance where this has happened.", "Basketball is a lot more close quarters with arms up so in general you qre more likely to use your hip to bump someone off balance so they don't get a good jump for q rebound or such. Not to say there is never an opportunity but I feel not so much compared to soccer where 'shoulder to shoulder' bump is an actual thing. Although 'not excessive force' is one of the requirements, and you know if you get good at the bump technique, thr opposition would probably play up how hard you bump 🙄", "Jesus mate, don't be such a sook, it's light-hearted joke. You're faster from 0-100 than Lewis Hamilton. Are you really such a sensitive soul that you thought I meant Australia never loses a game, or solely produces coffee? Teaspoon of cement and harden up, champ.", "Too bad the bleachers didn't empty after the yellow card and ..... you fill in the rest of the story!", "Two wrongs don't make a right, but you've got to admit it was satisfying.\n\nDon't invade the pitch and ruin a game that people have been working all week for and maybe you won't have to put up with a gentle shoulder barge.", "There isn't an argument. You're giving mall ninja advice and talking about \"retard strength\" and I'm factually pointing out that the real world works different. Anything past that is just me having fun at your expense.", "Of all the people to attack on the pitch, the goalie is not the one lmao. Those dudes are vicious.", "To be clear, in Texas you can shoot him.", "I'm British you retard. And if I'm going to pick a side, I'll pick the side that's not ruining the game for all the players, fans and staff. If that makes me a simp, I'm a proud simp.", "Not politically, but to \"Counter Harassment\"", "Im giving advice that works against normal people using stupid maneuvers, you are sitting here trying every angle to make this into a situation where you feel justified making fun of me. What a loser.", "She should have kneed the little jerk instead !", "Definitely. Also a hockey shoulder check", "You can't go around the field attacking other players. You have to wait for the ball to be in play! Geez.", "Go have a cry about it too", "Please do, kid.", "This thread is a fucking abomination", "Mate, WAYNE Kerr was right there for the taking.", "I mean that’s for sure a legal explanation- but why is it inscribed in the rules as such?\n\nMoreover, is there anything to be said for the common physical contact on the field which might otherwise be assault if it were in any other context? Or because he’s a nonparticipant would he have grievance even if he wasn’t injured by the contact?\n\nI only ask because the threshold for assault is often much higher in sports contexts and behavior which would be rightly called battery is ignored as such and often just considered part of the game", "Anyone that has watched football in their lives knows this is the right call, she's lucky she wasn't red carded or even suspended. You can't attack someone out of play, it even looked like the guy was leaving at that point. Leave it to security or police.", "I'll hold your hand and do this homework for you on one condition: that within five minutes of spoon feeding you the link, you post a genuine apology and then delete your account.", "A threat isnt over until the person is no longer capable of continuing, whether that be injured to the point of inability to fight, detained or dead. He has no clue what the persons intentions are and doesnt have the time to figure it out so kicking someone and keeping them on the ground is a good choice until security got on him. If someone takes a punch at me and falls down im not going to assume that hes all happy as a clam and the fight is over simply because he fell and hasnt had the chance to get back up.", "Ok but it’s not a player though? And if the ball is in play, would it be allowed then? The yellow cards and red cards seemingly imply that if it were a clean hit with no excessive force, this would be acceptable. Right?", "Primarily because in the old days (i.e. before the business was \"exposed\"), some people in the crowd definitely had bad intentions in mind for the heels if they got too close. And back then you rarely even had a temporary fence barrier separating ringside and the front row, so for heated matches both locker rooms would be on standby so when it was time for the ending they could hit the ring and start a brawl for cover.", "It’s a pretty standard shoulder/body check. Don’t know why everyone is so concerned with the terminology, this chick probably learned it playing AFL but it’s a pretty standard move in a good amount of sports. Soccer you can’t go full out or might get carded but lacrosse, hockey (ice and field), football etc. this is a totally legal and very common move as long as you hit them in the side/front", "Idk if it was worth the card, because there’s a chance the ref could’ve given her a red card which would’ve take her out of the next couple games. The dude deserved what he got, but I don’t think the athlete should compromise herself by getting involved.", "The fans should have backed them instead of booing", "Sam Kerr. One of the best athletes on the planet!", "So hard that the guy bounced right back up. The players would be rolling around for minutes and require a stretcher", "This is exactly why soccer is 95% dogshit. Surprised the fan didn’t fish flop on the ground for an hour", "I think he was trying to kick him in the dick and missed. Guy definitely had some nice bruises the next day. Also, adrenaline is a hell of a drug.", "The decision to send him off was correct, as was the coach’s decision to pull his team off the field. The goalie was kicking a drunk pitch invader who was already lying on the floor - clear red. The officials and security can’t do their jobs properly - pulling your team off the pitch makes perfect sense.", "Especially in the sport where they wear shoes that have tiny blunt knives on the bottom.", "Not as in a sliding tackle from 2 feet away, but a sliding tackle from behind where both feet make contact with the other player. That kind of tackle was a career-ending experience for the recipient more than a few times before they made a rule against it.", "Sucker-slams him from behind, then he strolls away unharmed. \n\n*DESTROYED", "And nobody said otherwise", "Wouldn't that be considered assault? \\[serious\\]", "In the US this happens a lot at Major League Baseball games. The players are not supposed to engage with the trespasser and, instead, let security do it. \n\nBut the main reason I think that's the case is because the player could get injured. A guy could easily blow out his knee trying to tackle some jackass on the field. That could be career ending.", "Are you confused? I've said two things to you, one was asking for a link. Why would I apologize?", "You’re deranged. This is a post about football and its rules", "Could you share where you get that from? Every time people offer a source for the claim that it's a myth that the U.S. is a highly litigious country, they tend to share the same one or two articles that ignore the nature of court cases and the differing responsibilities of the courts, and pretend that a routine transactional formality that in Germany is technically handled by a court is the same as a personal injury suit in the U.S.", "Multiple years of, again, not an international profesional league, who might* play with a more involved and specified ruleset than a rinky dink high school.... starting to click yet?\n\nProfessional leagues have more rules than high school sports, who knew? Also nice goalpost move with the knife example, nobody is talking about the morality of defending yourself or not here, just strictly that yes, it is a rule. \n\nIronically actually, that knife example you bring up is exactly one of the reasons why its a rule. They want their players not engaging with potential crazy people storming the field so they don't get injured. Now wether it's a good rule for enforcing that is an entirely different conversation", "I’d say yellow was deserved, it’s a warning not to take security into your own hands. They have people trained for this. (I mean, I liked seeing him flattened as well but yellow was justified)", "Fair Bump, Play on....\n\n\nFtfy", "This sub is full of petulant children and their definition of “self defense” is laughable. You absolutely do not keep kicking a drunk dude who can’t stand “in case he has a knife”, especially since you’re an athlete and you can both outrun him and rearrange his face with a boot if he tries to stand up and try again.", "This guy is brain dead don’t argue with him.", "One was utterly false and the other was asking for help performing a simple search. The apology would be for lying and wasting my time.", "Hey! as a waddling penguin who used to be a soccer player!.....damnit. You're not wrong.", "This I actually agree with. Refs should be paid more but also held to higher standards AND actually have some skin in the game.", "Figures, it’s a woman ref \n\n\n/s", "Random as in he hasn't done anything to her", "Honestly, I just came to rile up some foreigners, and I did JUST that.\n\nI am proud of myself and satisfied. :-) \n\nGood day, ma'am.", "TBH, I love how serious you fuckers are with this. :-P Seriously, comedy is dead and you PC queens killed it. \n\nHave a good one, though.", "Why does the ref have to look like a Die Hard villain?", "Anytime \"Malice at the Palace\" is mentioned I have to remind people about the Boston Bruins hockey game, two days before Christmas in 1979, where they climbed into the stands in full gear to beat on some unruly guys in the bleachers. Mike Milbury beat a guy with his own shoe. It's amazing!\n\nhttps://youtu.be/fpbD6W7YT5A", "Not 10 years ago, no.", "You're a very angry person huh? Sure I'll delete my account if you post a link proving me wrong. And an apology.", "They gave the appearance of doing so extremely ineffectively, given the footage. The intruder was even taking a selfie before he got shoulder-check.", "Would you be happy if they shot him instead?", "Where's the security?", "> ...which is what happened.\n\nI know there's periods there, but your supposed to continue reading after the ellipses.", "Yeah, still a dangerous proposition if the retaliation isn't just rude but could catch you an assault charge or hurt someone. :/", " If he did have a knife, you should run away.", "A lot of some sports is unleashing aggressive and semi violent behavior through competition. Legal rules of assault would obviously not work for contact sports. Just don’t watch contact sports if your don’t like to see that behavior. Obviously there are limits and rules that should be clearly enforced but letting out violent and aggressive energy in a healthy way is a core part of many sports", "Yeah that’s assault. Can’t have it both ways", "\"Man invades\" \n\nDoubt it, he looks about 15-16, like the typical wee shits who hang about shops harassing folk to go buy them alcohol/vapes/ciggies etc.", "Can you post the evidence?", "This chick is Samantha Kerr one of the most talented sportspeople on the planet.", "So PLEASE SAY HER NAME!\nIt's Sam Kerr!!!!!", "> \"Walking\" isn't a crime. \"Running\" isn't a crime. Trespassing is.\n\nErrr... actually it isn't. Not in most common law jurisdictions. It's a civil tort that you can sue someone to remedy, and you can use _reasonable_ force as a self-remedy, but generally it's not actually a crime.\n\nNow, bodychecking someone to the floor when you could have just surrounded them, grabbed them, or called the police? Potentially a crime.", "He is also a complete dickhead", "I loves this line. What delivery by a goat", "Her name is Sam Kerr!", "Her name is Sam Kerr!", "Her name is Sam Kerr!", "Her name is Sam Kerr!", "Her name is Sam Kerr!", "Her name is Sam Kerr!", "Her name is Sam Kerr!", "Her name is Sam Kerr!", "Her name is Sam Kerr!", "Her name is Sam Kerr!", "Her name is Sam Kerr!", "Her name is Sam Kerr!", "Her name is Sam Kerr!", "Her name is Sam Kerr!", "I see you projecting you're an angry person. What proof do you have that you're not just a lying troll who won't honor your word?", "Her name is Sam Kerr!", "yes that is in the title", "I didn't say anything about 90 minutes, etc. I'm someone else.\n\nBut in general, grow up. You may have had enough reddit for today.", "Her name is Sam Kerr!", "Her name is Sam Kerr!", "Her name is Sam Kerr!", "It absolutely is in many jurisdictions. Like assault and battery, it is both a tort and criminal offense.", "Her name is Sam Kerr!", "Aww the old I got called out so I’m just joking response. Yeah nah", "Her name is Sam Kerr!", "Her name is Sam Kerr!", "Reading your comments you're clearly deranged.\n\nSeeing as you're taking so long to post this link that proves dropping a pitch invader can get them charges, I'm just going to assume you don't have that link.\n\nShe dropped a pitch invader who was trespassing. She did nothing wrong. \n\nCheers.", "Her name is Sam Kerr!", "Her name is Sam Kerr!", "All 5 fans in the stand applauded robustly.", "Her name is Sam Kerr!", "Her name is Sam Kerr!", "Her name is Sam Kerr!", "Sam Kerr is the player in OP's video. This comment chain is about a different video linked above.", "Her name is Sam Kerr!", "Her name is Sam Kerr!", "Maybe not much effort but MORE effort than it takes to timestamp and from MORE people than just the one person. And yea its not that big of a deal but its also not entitled to point it out", "It's actually called \"assault\" and should do hard time in prison for that.\n\nThe laws of the world doesn't stop applying to you because you're playing football.", "Would you say that same thing about the people whose job it is to get him off the field ? Not to mention his blatant disrespect for being on the pitch.", "Her name is Sam Kerr!", "Her name is Sam Kerr!", "Did that card the ref hold up say \"you're awesome\" on it?", "If you liked this, I've got a great sport you should check out called Hockey.", "I'm curious as to the why", "OR a woman!", "Her name is Sam Kerr!", "Her name is Sam Kerr!", "Her name is Sam Kerr!", "Her name is Sam Kerr!", "Her name is Sam Kerr!", "I too like to jerk myself off", "Taking a break from clown college?", "I love this, I'll be fine, they don't actually hit you. Proceeds to get ass whopped by wrester and ref haha", "Ben Cousins was my childhood hero, dunno what that says about me now but I met him at my inter school footy carnival at the WACA and he’d just signed his first contract with the Eagles. He was there with his Mum and was shaking everyone’s hand as they went on to the field, he was still a bit deer in the headlights at that stage and his mum made him sign my hat. Then the man turned into a monster in one of the most dominant midfields the sport has ever seen.", "Yeah, because her Dad wanted a son.", "Getting dropped hard is a massive overstatement.", "Different vid, this particular comment branch went on a tangent about a different incident and you must have missed it.", "Not at all. That rule is to protect against lawsuits against the player. She hit a man unprovoked (granted an annoying one but he wasn't a exactly threat to her) that's a juicy lawsuit right there.", "Selam Alkhmar", "Ever been a football ref? If not, try it :) it's fun. No matter what you do, you get shit from it. Side gigs for 4 years, futsal/football junior games.", "I'm not trying every angle, I'm trying the angle where the other guy doesn't have cerebral palsy.", "There are rules against interacting with pitch invaders in soccer, they are to protect against lawsuits against the player. Ref's hands were tied. Sam was lucky she didn't get a red card tbh.", "Hey kid, you supported the lie, so own your mistake. And tell your mommy you've had enough Reddit for today.", "Good union?", "Wow, good one. Nothing says mature like the \"nuh uh, you are\" comeback.\n\nI was saying Im some other guy who thought you were making good points at first, but you lost any respect in my mind (and I'm sure anyone who you were hoping to convince) by turning into a little manchild when challenged (again, not by me, but two other people).\n\nAnd now you're a blocked little manchild, I don't have any interest in whatever babyish reply you come back with at this point.", "I don't think anyone really gets how absurdly hard Pro footballers are able to kick a ball.", "[Here you go. First link of a hundred examples, thousands of Google hits. Felony assault charges against the player.](https://www.espn.com/mlb/news/story?id=1881073)\n\nLooking forward to your apology and account deletion within five minutes. I'm totally sure you won't turn out to be a lying piece of shit who breaks their word.", "Nothing says emotionally deformed like you defending senseless violence, then being an infantile douchenozzle when that fact is pointed out. You misgendering people is on brand with your basket of social disabilities. At least your immature projection tells us your biggest insecurity: that you're an aspiring \"manchild\".", "This isn't self defense so I don't see how this is relevant", "> Sure I'll delete my account if you post a link proving me wrong. And an apology. user: Nightbynight\n\nOh look who lied and broke their promise.", ">The Oakland Athletics and Texas Rangers\ndisagreed over who's to blame for an altercation in the stands that\nled to the arrest of Rangers reliever Frank Francisco after he\nthrew a chair that hit a woman and broke her nose.\n\nCompletely and utterly different than what happened here. Not even a comparable situation.\n\nGo pearl clutch somewhere else.", "I always end up looking like a DJ turning it off and on again. \nIf I'm locked out of this one I need to switch to another, which fucks my streaming services, making me switch again, and so on and so forth.\n\nIt doesn't solve things, it's just working around the problem.", "Football, not “soccer”", "You didn't post proof of someone being charged for bodying a pitch invader. You posted something completely irrelevant.", "I was making sure Samantha Kerr's name was mentioned as much as possible. She is one of the most talented spotspeople in the world atm.", "Nightbynight being a bald faced lying liar again? Who could have predicted a chronic liar like you would lie and make a fraudulent promise?", "Your reply was both insulting and profane. No need for any of that from what I said", "I know. I was promoting Sam Kerr's name as much as possible.", "Yes. Samantha Kerr is the amazing athlete in the video. Samantha Kerr is one of the most talented sportspeople on the planet right now. Samantha Kerr. Yes Sam Kerrs name is in the title. I see it. It says Sam Kerr.", "Go Samabtha Kerr!", "You made this claim: \"In a lot of jurisdictions this* could also be charged as assault.\"\n\nYou were referring to the incident linked in the OP where Sam Kerr shoulder barges a pitch invader.\n\nWhen I asked for proof you linked me something where a player threw a chair that hit a women in the stands.\n\nIt is not related to a player bodying a pitch invader. They are not comparable situations. We're talking about players and pitch invaders. You know this.\n\nHonestly you have some problems with how seriously you're taking all of this. You sound deranged.", "Great to know thanks, only really watch women’s soccer around the World Cup", "If you do that in Texas you go to prison for murder.\n\nYou can use force to stop a theft in Texas, not deadly force.", "Dear lying piece of shit, you made a promise and broke it. Your word is as worthless as you are. \n\n[Here's ten more examples.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/sports/2004/12/08/five-pacers-five-pistons-fans-to-be-charged-with-assault/1816486f-f7df-4ea6-ae6a-7b97e6cd3243/) I'm sure Nightbynight won't lie and break their word again. /s", "Because you can get him kicked out of the game apparently. Could be a stupid way to win a bet.", "> Physical force must be proportional and limited to extremely narrowly defined situations where there's a threat of serious harm or death\n\nYou have described the criteria for use of deadly force. You clearly don't know what you are talking about.", "You clearly don't know what you're talking about. Force application must be reasonable. I sure wish our education system hadn't failed, creating results like you.", "Dude, I am Canadian, so yeah... seen guys dumped over the boards into the benches from a quick hip check and lift, watched the Sabres go at with the Flyers, and dropped like fourth period French. But that is always on skates.\n\nThis was graceful and on grass and you never see it on the gridiron.", "That second video...those umps were actually saving that mans life like, what did he think would happen if he attacked someone with and ENTIRE team ready to help out? XD", "You linked me malice at the palace? You think that's comparable to dropping a pitch invader?\n\nYou're deranged. And blocked.", "Liar Nightbynight continues to break their word? Shocker.", "That is what I mean -- her contact looked like it was so light and innocent but it leveled the guy and he ate turf.", "Huh? A hate comments like this. They are so low energy.", "Yes, reasonable, like nudging him with her shoulder. Which by your standards is \"brutally assaulting\" him. Yeah, clearly you are thinking reasonably here.", "Are you not entertained ?", "Confession through projection?", "[Illegal in the jurisdiction of California.](https://law.stackexchange.com/questions/2044/can-a-football-player-be-prosecuted-for-tackling-a-fan). \n\nLet's see if you continue to break your word....", "Why is not surprising that you would take an incident in which a man is leveled to the ground and dishonestly call that a \"nudge\"? Someone who would tell one lie will blithely tell a thousand more.", "My mistake, wrote the man to imply the “yeah… man” saying after a sentence . Didn’t realise that it came across as me calling Sam Kerr as a man. So sorry for that, have changed it now.", "I know?", "And here I was thinking I was explaining a bit of British culture to someone to be helpful. But apparently I'm just \"over analysing\".", "Mad as a cut snake. \n\nCut his ex partner's bed in half with a chainsaw. \n\nA fucking chainsaw.", "Yes I have and if they turned out to be gobshite they got fired.", "Vid please I'd love to watch this b", "It's bc he got married and they took each others names", "No point arguing with these virtue signalling retards, it's all about farming that sweet karma.", "If a woman ran on the field and a male player checked her, the public would be demanding that guy's head on a platter. Make up your minds; do you want gender equality or not?", "That first was amazing. Also imagine getting dropped by a goalie holy fck", "How ironic, the pot calling the kettle black\n\nThe difference is while we both used hyperbole, you don't understand the actual law related to the use of force. For some reason you think all use of force must be meet the criteria to justify deadly force. It's demonstrably wrong, but facts are no use against people like you.", "Now you're lying about that expression. You're both the lying pot and the lying kettle. Falsely calling that a \"nudge\" is deliberate dishonesty on your part. Facts don't matter to pathological liars like you.", "So many of what people consider good or bad calls is based completely off of wether the call was in favor of their team or not.", "This is what is referred to as an \"ad hominem\" attack where you have lost the debate so you resort to personal attacks against your opponent. Pretty pointless.", "In practice you can use your gun to protect yourself and family from trespassing strangers in your house.\n\nUnless the D.A. doesn't like you.", "I disagree. This video gave me the satisfaction of seeing the wanker drop. I'm not easy to impress, so it's an accomplishment.", "> You can use force to stop a theft in Texas, not deadly force.\n\n[Depends on the time of day](https://codes.findlaw.com/tx/penal-code/penal-sect-9-42.html), but since we're talking about burglary and not theft...", "Nah not really, that’s specifically comparing throw velocity to that a a cannon. Calling someone a gun has nothing to do with speed or explosiveness, just general slang for someone that’s real nice with it", "If I wasn't told otherwise I'd 100% assume that the second one with the ladder was planned.", "lol ok\n\nred flag", "That’s such a pile of bullshit. Wtf.", "So fucked up, I wonder if some shady person lost a lot of money on that. \n\nCheck this one out, ref murders player, then the family and fans of the player murder the ref in a very gruesome way. \n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Ot%C3%A1vio_Jord%C3%A3o_da_Silva", "And how does that change someone trying to kick you from their back? Nothing......", "You answered your own question. Its their job....", "https://youtu.be/cugWIM6E39g\n\nRugby version", "Sometimes I wonder what sort of FIFA rules are in place", "That AZ manager absolutely did the right thing, what a boss move", "Plus, he's the goalie, so he can use his hands too.", "Yours is what is referred to as pathological lying, where you lie over and over again, and then lie about your lies. Pretty dishonest.", "This isn’t true of security for sports matches. I’ve seen plenty of pitch invaders get physically tackled to the ground and taken off. Just yesterday that happened at the Ashes.", "It’s not true of sports security. You go onto a pitch, you will get rugby tackled by security as a rule.", "Yes because disagreeing with you is lying, since your opinion is fact. Is that what you think?\n\nAnd your \"lie\" wasn't lying, because it was you? It is only lying when someone else does it, is that right?\n\nNevermind the fact that you were confidently incorrect about the entire thing because you don't know anything about trespassing laws or use of force laws.", "Pitch invaders do get tackled and restrained by stewards in Australia and Europe. There’s been assaults on athletes by pitch invaders before and obsessive people. Chelsea does pay their stewards to physically restrain people at Stamford bridge and I imagine it’ll be the case going forward at Kingsmeadow.", "He burnt his parents house down recently too.", "3.5 billion people disagree. If you don’t like it, whatever, don’t turn it on, but people paid to be there and watch a football match, not some wanker.", "She was their number 1 ticket holder for a couple of years and trained at their facilities on her off season in 2019 iirc.", "Nope. Your lies are lies, and would still be lies whether or not I'm here to call you out. You lying about trespassing and use of force is consistent with you lying about me. I'm not sure you can even make a single post that doesn't contain lies. I'm guessing you can't. It's part of your pathology.", "She had a rough start to her Chelsea career but is now back to her normal conversion rates.", "She’s a striker.", "Once again, it's not a lie just because you don't agree with it.\n\nThe laws about trespassing and use of force are clear and force can usually be justified to remove a trespasser without any threat of danger.\n\nTackling someone is not \"brutally assaulting\" them either, and if you lack the life experience to understand that then you should count yourself lucky.\n\nBut, you've got nothing else to bring to the discussion. You're just a broken record; the only word you know is \"lie\" and its derivatives. Want to say it 87 more times to get the rest of the bottles off the wall?", "No doubt. Outstanding footy player. Even now, he'd be one of those guys where if you're playing Masters for giggles and beers, you take the field for the first game of a carnival, look over at your match up who seems oddly familiar, and Suddenly Kerr.\n\n\"Aw shit. Really?\"", "“Worth it”", "In the unlikely event I find myself in the same location, he's the kinda bloke I'd do my best to ignore for the exact reason that I think he is one, so I don't think that'll be an issue.", "And she is obviously a badass!", "That second one definitely shows the difference between wrestling “hits” and the real punches they threw at the fan.", "Yeah, so they get chased off the field and everyone else goes back to the game. That's how it goes.\n\nIt's part of the culture of the sport, and has been since the beginning. \n\nThe athletes aren't supposed to actually assault them. Just chase them away, at most.", "Strawmanning is a form of lying. But thank you for instantly proving me right by doing another pathological multi-lie post. Calling an assault a \"nudge\" is actually one of your most mild lies.", "I actually worked a summer at Portland Timbers and Thorns games as security, both pitch-side and various spots throughout the stadium. I had authority to physically block entry to unauthorized guests. \n\nI feel bad for that elderly woman, but why are security companies hiring people who physically cannot to the job? Same goes for penguin waddle guy in OPs video. Those people don't make sense to hire in this environment", "The comment i replied to said retail workers, not retail security guards. Theres a major difference between a cashier and a security guard", ".", "Why was the card overturned? Just watched the video linked further down but the goalie kicks the person twice while lying on the ground. Thats not “defending your self” at all. 🤨Thats assault? He was obviously angry but should have backed off or simply held him down till others came, not attacked the person.", "?", "are you ok", "Hold up, Daniel Kerr is Sam Kerrs brother? Holy fucking genetics. Daniel Kerr was legit one of the best to ever play.", "Fuck yeah go CROM", "That is the dumbest shit I’ve seen on Reddit today and that’s saying something. \n\n“Sure he just attacked you unprovoked from behind, but let him stand up again …maybe he’s learned his lesson!”", "uh, no, they wouldn't.", "Ok bet then yellow card to them because it was a foul for them getting shook by that kids for so long.", "Yeah if anyone thinks that's real... I dunno. Pretty sure you can't just fucking wail on a guy like that and it's not considered assault - all the kicks and punches were definitely the wrestling version of kicks and punches", "And now put it into the context of an emigrated Turkish man, who still struggles in places with speaking the English language, says \"keep their mouths shut\" doesn't just automatically translate into the \"shut up\" that headlines have been using. But journalists spinning things to stir up anger and division? They would never do that, right? lol\n\nBut ya'll wanna be mad, be mad. Lol", "Don’t fuck with d!kes", "You seem to be assuming tackling the fan would have been the right approach.", "If they cared about that, then they would do the same as for the kids ones and remove comments. The humor I was thinking of when I made that comment is linked below.\nhttps://babylonbee.com/news/youtube-removes-138000-dislikes-from-biden-videos-in-middle-of-night", "Do you really think that was going to end with nobody taking him down?", "To be fair, from the video it does look like he's fighting back in anger rather than self defense. He kicks the guy twice when he's already on the ground, and even after the incident is over his teammates are still having to hold him back like they're breaking up a bar fight. He has every right to be angry at the guy but... I don't know, seems a little over the top to me.", "Lel says Mr 60 IQ over here", "What the fuck? What part of your brain processed that sentence and thought that was a comment that needed to be made here? Like was that supposed to be a counter argument or something? \n\nLow IQ peasants, I swear", "In a world where people like you will make up fake reasons to take a chickenshit free shot at someone, and then have apologists cheerlead it like they're at a cockfight, No, I'm not surprised the assault occurred.", "I def don't disagree there, like you said it definitely makes people think it would be cool to do it. I don't remember which wrestling group it was that he did it for. I'll ask him next time we're chatting.\n\nIt would have been a while ago. Early 2000s at the absolute latest.", "Goalie appears to be hot headed though", "Most of them are in dutch", "If someone comes into your yard, can you tackle them like security tackles trespassers?", "Wtf why would someone need to delete their account just for being proven wrong? Why not just link them the instance instead of making a list of demands?", ">or else they’ll be instantly sued into total oblivion\n\nThis is taking place in England. Not the US.", "To illustrate two things: that it's lazy and sleazy to make the false claim, and secondly, that lazy and sleazy bad faith actors can never be trusted.\n\nThey gave their word, then promptly confirmed their word isn't worth shit.", "You seem to be implying that he should just have been able to do whatever he wants and nobody should touch him. There were going to be consequences for him running onto the field, somebody was going to stop him, why does it make a difference to you if it's her or somebody else? Or are you honestly saying that he should just be allowed to do it without interference?", "Youtube has ads?", "She was wrong to do what she did though. It's flat out assault.", "> You seem to be implying that he should have been able to do whatever he wants\n\nBullshit. Quit lying. I never said anything like that.\n\nHe should be escorted off non-violence, with a still functioning spine, without a needless concussion. Give him his trespass notice, his fine, his court date, and move along. Act like we're human beings, not sentient sewage.\n\n\"You seem to be implying that\" waiting 16 seconds for the two security guards who ushered him off is too difficult for you to endure, and that a cheap shot violent criminal assault takedown is the somehow only way to deal with such a tragedy as a football game being delayed for 16 seconds. \n\n> why does it make a difference to you if it's her or somebody else? \n\nIt doesn't. If you would have bothered to read what I wrote, I condemned any asshole who commits senseless violence on a harmless tit who walks on the pitch taking a selfie, whether it's a police officer, a security guard, a childish soccer player, or you. We don't smash someone's teeth in for jaywalking, we don't rape them for shoplifting, so maybe, just maybe, it would be an evolved idea not to gang tackle them for walking and taking a dumb ass selfie.\n\n> Or are you honestly saying that he should just be allowed to do \n\nWhy do you have to be such a cheerleader for mindless violence? \"Or are you you honestly saying that\" people should just commit ignorant acts of violence for no reason just to thrill those who were born missing the genes for human empathy and self control?", "What would Michelle Rodriguez do?", "Maybe +15yrs. ago a 1st base coach was attacked by a drunken man &his equally inebriated son in Chicago, USA. \nWithin the count of 3 the benches cleared and began to pummel these two unfortunate souls.\nWhat gives the average guy the impression he will make a difference with these types of antics.", "> Let me get this straight. You think that your employer, one of the richest, most powerful men in the world, is secretly a vigilante ~~is spending~~ who spends his nights ~~running around the city~~ beating criminals to a pulp with his bare hands? And your plan is to blackmail ~~him~~ this person? Good luck.", "The first poster didn't even post the video! HOW DARE THEY!!! /s", "I can almost hear that hamster wheel powering your brain just screeching along. \n\n\nBut hey, I see you edited your comment now. At least partly you must realize how insane you sound.", "\"dropped hard\" \n\nShe bumped him and he fell...", "> in most cases\n\nYeah that is the issue. I made my argument intentionally insane to point this out. Even if you shoot someone in the back you can often times claim those laws. If you shoot them in the front probably every single time.", "Are you saying alchohol doesn't inhibit and/or limit the function of the brain? \n \nMaking excuses and being quite literally unable to make informed rational decisions are two completely different things.", "Why would you bring up racism in a discussion about soccer rules? Guess you are incapable of taking a joke.", "Because it was an example that just because the rules are there doesn't make it morally right. There's no joke. You're just bad at logic comprehension.", "Did you get a gold medal in Tokyo? Your mental gymnastics are world class. It'd be logical comprehension by the way even though you're straw man argument is invalid here. Has no relevance to soccer.", "??? Ironic that you're gonna try to correct grammar while making two grammatical mistakes in the exact same sentence lmao. \n\nBut ya Im not surprised you don't see the relation here since you're clearly a fucking dimwit", "Yes. It is a different story if a fan attempts to attack a player, however, which in this case didn't happen.", "Alright, no worries. The rule is there for a reason. The rule is a good one and should stay as is.", "Okay dimwit obv everything exists for a reason. Racist laws were there for a reason. \n\nThe rule is obviously not good if there are this many people opposing it. You're a fucking oblivious dimwit", "Stay mad then. The rule is for players protection. If you have a valid comment on why you don't like the rule then I'll discuss. The rule has nothing to do with racism and you don't need to make every conversation about it. Be ignorant the rest of your life if you like.", "If a man tackled a woman, yes they would.", "So, exactly what I said lol just people acting on impulse for their own emotional gratification. She's no better than him, two sides of the same coin. At least he didn't assault anyone.", "....? Obv the rules had nothing to do with racism lmao wtf? Jesus Christ you're a dimwit.", "Sorry, late reply. [Yes it's true ](https://apnews.com/article/addeb39de75f78f1982750e532a17358)(2 feet sliding tackles from behind that is.)\n\nAnd it was a damn good change as well. [Marco Van Basten is one of many victims](https://apnews.com/article/4c3e92aa8f880542006118533b6736fb) of dangerous tackles from defenders.", "No, if I was saying that, I would've said it.", "The guy who ran up is suck a bitch too, if you watch the netflix documentary on it they interview him and he keeps saying how artest \"sucker punched\" him. Also acts like he was just minding his own business\n\n\nAlso got carted off in a neckbrace and tried to sue", "Lioness", "What do those two things have to do with one another?", "Ads are added in post to football footage depending on which country they are shown in", "Wollah, ik zeg jou, az al khmar", "Nah she's Australian (joke)", "Precies ja haha.", "You are ignorant of the history of the term soccer and why it’s used.\n\nAnd that’s ok, you can use this opportunity to educate yourself.", "Unless I've missed something, Youtube on at least Android doesn't have the ability to copy a link with* a timestamp. It's just \"copy link\". Don't know if iOS is different.\n\nAs for your post - the classy way to make that point is to do what Gnurx did and post the timestamped link in response.", "If somebody gets stabbed on the pitch, surely you stop worrying about whether taking action would get you carded?", "Yes. I am really ok after watching Samantha Kerr. This post and video is about Sam Kerr so I have been reminding everyone of her name. It's Sam Kerr. She is one of the most talented athletes on the planet Samantha Kerr.", "Hells yeah! One of the best athletes on the planet at the moment!", "By using her full name Samantha Kerr everytime, instead of her is she, we can all help to boost her profile! Go Sam Kerr!", "I was trying to promote her name to as many people on this thread as possible. She is one of the best sportsperson on the planet and she deserves more recognition. Go Samantha Kerr!", "I think i love you now 💙❤🧡💛💚", "I meant that the player could take action when someone tries to assault them before the person gets the chance to. You never know if someone has a weapon and wants to kill you. Not fighting back before it happens is dumb. And its even more ridiculous if they get carded for doing so", "Gotcha", "Violence is violence. It is best avoided whenever possible, morally and legally.\n\nAlso, the best defense against a knife is distance. These are professional soccer players, they can run. \n\nShe didn't help. If she were really interested in stopping him, why did she allow him to get up before security was able to apprehend him? She was just punishing him.", "Go Sam Kerr!", "In the AZ vs Ajax game, the goalie got a red card because they kept kicking the guy when he was down on the floor and clearly incapacitated. This was violent enough to warrant a send-off. That said I also think that it made sense to later rescind the card, as it clearly was a very extreme event, and while the player's actions weren't commendable, the punishment of the send-off at later games was maybe a bit too much for self-defense against an unexpected attacker. I still think the referee did the right thing pulling the goalie out of the game means there's less chance of there being further violence. And it was the right thing for the manager to pull their team off for the same reason. Clearly such an event had sullied the game, and there was risk of further violence, no point in putting the players at risk. They were allowed to finish the game later too if I remember, the goalie played as their card got rescinded.\n\nHonestly I think a yellow card with overturning later is good enough in this case. It pushes players to try to avoid escalating into violence, but if they are forced to defend themselves, they get a temporary slap on the wrist (unless of course they have been pushing at it before) followed by an apology when seen it was reasonable. As for whomever jumped into the field, I expect the full legal implications of the assault, plus bans, and shunning from other fans who should not approve or support unsportsmanlike behavior that ruins the game. If I wanted to see a game resolved through fighting I'd have gone to a box match." ]	1,549	videos	Man invades the field during a women's professional soccer match, and gets dropped hard by a player (Sam Kerr), who then receives a yellow card for doing it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zn6fcA2JkPg	/r/videos/comments/rc86i5/timeline_of_the_earth_from_its_formation_to/	[ "given that life started as soon as earth became habitable, i.e. when water wet it, it seems that life was almost _inevitable_. Which implies that life will happen wherever there's a planet with a decent climate.", "Fascinating.", "I felt there was a lot of cool stuff to take away from it, it makes life seem inevitable, and the evolution of more complex life seems to snowball which makes me wonder what the next organism will be? Modified humans / AI? Assuming an extinction event doesn't set us back (also will we be space faring enough by the time it comes?)\n\n\nIt also shows how the destruction of the earth is impending, even if it's a few billion years away. Seeing it destroyed is quite sad and put things into perspective. \n\nBut thinking that possibly no one would be around to see the collision with andromeda is also sad haha. Also has this happend to countless other planets who had life and maybe civilisation, but never left in time?\n\nAlso just from googling \"time line of life on earth\"\n\n\nAbout 3.5 - 3.8 billion years of simple cells (prokaryotes).\n\n3 billion years of photosynthesis.\n\n2 billion years of complex cells (eukaryotes).\n\n1 billion years of multicellular life.\n\n600 million years of simple animals.\n\n570 million years of arthropods (ancestors of insects, arachnids and crustaceans).\n\n550 million years of complex animals.\n\n500 million years of fish and proto-amphibians.\n\n475 million years of land plants.\n\n400 million years of insects and seeds.\n\n360 million years of amphibians.\n\n300 million years of reptiles.\n\n200 million years of mammals.\n\n150 million years of birds.\n\n130 million years of flowers.\n\n65 million years since the non-avian dinosaurs died out.\n\n2.5 million years since the appearance of Homo.\n\n200,000 years since the appearance of modern humans.\n\n25,000 years since Neanderthals died out", "I wonder how much we can delay some of this with Terra forming principles. Also, hopefully we would have already found other planets in their \"prime\" before the inevitable.", "40 hour day? You can bet the man will be pushing for a double shift every fucking day.", "\"wew lad\" -Interstellar aliens probably", "Man this video is hard to follow, text randomly appearing in places, sometimes even on top of each other. No clear transitions from one phase to another. While I do appreciate the attempt, I was having a hard time even getting half way to the video.", "welp, there's my existential crisis of the day", "All this could have been presented so much better.", "<100 years since first signal was emitted to space. Anybody further than that isn't aware of our existence.\n\nLooks like we are going to end as a civilisation in two to three hundred years as the earth will become difficult to live in for humans. If we round up we get five hundred years of existence as signal emitting intelligent life.\n\nNot even a blink of an eye.", "I came across it at 2am which is the perfect time for it haha", "Like 95 percent nitrogen, earth still cooling. What a chemical soup earth was.", "Why do i keep watching these end of the world videos? Just so depressing to think that all this will end someday" ]	12	videos	Timeline of the Earth: From its Formation to Destruction
https://youtu.be/vi3kU0IBRII	/r/videos/comments/rc8f76/four_years_of_nikocado_avocado_in_under_60/	[ "That guy needs a lot of serious help.", "I don't know who this is, but it appears as if his life is spiraling...", "He’s a YouTuber. I watched Penguinz0’s videos on him, because I think that watching his videos throws fuel onto the fire. Basically, he was a relatively normal person who was vegan (not that I’m saying only vegans are normal. I’m not a vegan, I’m just saying he made healthy choices) and played violin on camera. He started doing these “mukbang” videos and ate obscene amounts of food multiple times a week, eating thousands of calories. The stuff he ate wasn’t healthy, either, and took a toll on his body and mind, and he frequently breaks down sobbing on camera. It’s pretty sad, and his viewers just add more coal to the engine of the train that’s barreling towards a wrecked bridge. Basically, he’s killing himself by overeating because the internet reinforces his eating disorder’s grip on his life.", "Yeah, agreed", "Now I don’t think that’s necessary...", "Idk if you’ve seen Meat Canyons video on the guy, but it’s pretty powerful at describing niks circumstance right now in an artistic style.", "I have not, but I’ll watch it now! I learned about it from Cr1TiKaL, or Penguinz0 on YouTube", "Eating disorder, mental illness, narcissism... take your pick.", "I don't think this is an eating disorder exactly. I think he would do literally anything that was popular. It just happens that he stumbled in to this excessive eating thing and it has kept him relevant somehow.", "dw it'll be deleted by a mod pretty soon. might even catch a ban", "Proceed with caution Meatcanyon is not for the faint of heart. He has a reputation for “ruining your childhood”. But his nik video honestly speaks volumes. It’s called “The King of Mukbang”", "Sounds like I’ll like Meat Canyon then ;)\n\nThanks for sharing the name of the video, I’m going to watch it now", "There seems to be some sort of mental disorder though, since mentally healthy people wouldn’t slowly lull themselves for views. From what I’ve read and seen, it sounds like he knows what he’s doing. He’s even tried stopping in the past but inevitably gains pounds, and he’s aware of that fact.", "Genuinely wondering, where did you get narcissism from his content? I haven’t seen much of him, but I never got that vibe. It’s totally possible that I don’t know enough about him, though.", "Oh, it's for sure a mental disorder of some sort, but I do genuinely think he would do literally anything that gained him some popularity.", "Makes sense. Like an addiction to fame, kind of?", "Well, I watched it and it was... poignant. It’s kind of poetic. I think I’ll be watching more of their content!", "I'm not sure \"fame\" is the right word, but yeah, that's my suspicion.", "I'm pretty sure it's a sexual fetish thing. \n\nHere's a post about it:\nhttps://np.reddit.com/r/Cr1TiKaL/comments/q43w78/nobody_figured_out_that_nick_avocado_is_a_product/", "Dope, I like to think it puts on display all the issues running around in niks head. It’s not just peer pressure, but narcissism, and financial gain that lead to the situation. All the while his world around him turns to shit. Through it all the humanity and remorse nik has shows, alas he has dug himself so deep this is his only means of income.", "Look into the story with Stephanie Soo.", "I will do just that\n\nEdit: well that’s fucked up. I can see where you got that... he’s an awful person", "That actually kinda makes a lot of sense", "Yeah, it’s kinda depressing", "His response to the video is depressing", "Honestly, I was struggling to find the right words to say - without unintentionally sounding rude/defensive/obtuse, how you could take even a passing glance at his content and not come to that conclusion.", "Good lord. Really? He does all this in front of a CAMERA and uploads it so that people will WATCH him. That’s narcissism.", "I never knew there was a response. Interesting.", "If you don't like a social media star, don't talk about them, and don't share their content. Not even if you're giving negative commentary on a compilation video on a secondary channel.", "Yeah the video has been edited to convey that narrative.", "I remember when he was on Tosh.0 years ago. I'm surprised he's still alive doing this.", "Only thing that will make this guy stop is for people to stop paying attention to him. Hate or love he doesn’t care as long as someone’s watching", "By that logic every actor/youtuber/Internet personality is a narcissist. But I see where you’re coming from", "what a loser", "> By that logic every actor/youtuber/Internet personality is a narcissist.\n\nHe's slowly getting it, guys!", "He just needs to get a real job. Lol. There, I said it.", "Ikr - wait till he understand what influencers are really about", "I watched Happy Tree Friends the first time this year (Lumpy my fave) I can watch anything now. Bring it on.", "His stuff hits different from happy tree friends, he’s not a torture porn animator, he’s an artist. If you want something gruesome watch his jawbreaker episodes, if you want something that will make your skin crawl watch his McDonalds episode I thing it’s called “The Golden Arches” another good one is his Willy Wonka which I think is called “Golden Ticket” but it’s kinda just like Golden Arches only starring Willy wonka instead of Ronald McDonald. Lastly I can’t go recommending meat without acknowledging his most famous piece “Wabbit Season”. You can’t find it on his channel anymore because he was copyright strikes for it, however you can still find it because a lot of people reuploaded it." ]	43	videos	Four years of Nikocado Avocado in under 60 seconds. It’s sad to see what peer pressure can do to an individual with an eating disorder.
https://youtu.be/xISx8g7njas	/r/videos/comments/rc9gng/this_crazy_90s_commercial_envisioned_some_wacky/	[ "What happened to that drink?", "The game will never be the same LOL", "With a cameo by National mens team and Kansas City Wizards star Alexi Lalas.\nThis also may be where my HS coach got the idea for those hills he made us run constantly. Getting us ready for those 30ft rises.", "Did I hear that correctly, it was advertising having more carbs?", "We all figured out drinking soda before/during strenuous activity was a stupid idea.", "Sugar...", "Believe it or not these drinks are meant for athletes not fat kids sitting still at a table", "That wasn’t soda was it?", "The original all sport was carbonated.", "All Sport still has a website but the only product on there is a powdered drink mix" ]	10	videos	This crazy 90s commercial envisioned some wacky changes to soccer by 2044
https://youtube.com/watch?v=GmG4X9PGOXs&feature=share	/r/videos/comments/rcakyb/everyday_normal_guy/	[ "My sexual performances are average.", "Love some Jon Lajoie", "classic", "It certainly is", "Was literally singing the first one the other day...\n\nCuz my sexual performance is on average.", "My guy, not OP here but I gotta say that everyday normal CREW takes the cake!", "Blast from the past, takes me back to High School.", "I disagree,, I prefer the second one but the first one is also a classic", "I apologize for leaving out the number 2 LOL", "https://youtu.be/qG8iAtpavK4\n \nSame guy", "[You are forgiven](https://www.irishtimes.com/polopoly_fs/1.2202401.1430935003!/image/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/box_620_330/image.jpg)", "I agree, I knew neither but I like the 2nd one better.", "Keaton is the GOAT", "Blast from the past. Now with 52 million views.", "I work customers service for a phone company", "Leagues better, well played!", "My parents are really nice people, MOTHERFUCKAH!", "I think Lil Dicky must take after this everyday normal guy", "I’m old enough to remember when this video was in good quality", "Back to the Future 2 was rare like that.", "Hadn't thought about Jon LaJoie in years.\n\nHigh As Fuck is his best still (and I believe his first)", "So ancient, so good.", "Lyrics are better on the original, but the beat is better on #2", "Damn, I remember when this came out, laughing at it with my friends, hanging out at the waffle house late nights. I miss having friends.", "A certified hood classic may I say", "I’d love to date an everyday normal guy.", "That's a brilliant song.", "Show me your genitals ?", "It's hard to sell that on the dating apps", "\"Wolfie's fine, honey. Wolfie's just fine. Where are you?\"\n\n\"Your foster parents are dead.\"", "Man, 240p looked so much better a decade ago.", "Maybe I’ll link the video.", "Instagram reminded me of this and the part 2. Haven't thought of it since high school", "Taco?", "Good luck with that one LOL", "That’s good" ]	37	videos	Everyday normal guy
https://youtu.be/mDTgKjxs-YY	/r/videos/comments/rcao07/reddit_recap_2021/	[ "Proud reddit moment for me. I simply want share the video incase anybody missed it.", "[that’s a ten](https://youtu.be/EYtFH2bFCfg)", "neat", "Cringe", "Damn how does this not have more upvotes? Great job", "Been bumming around this website during work hours for probably 10 years or so. Watching this video really makes me wonder what I get out of it. Maybe I should take a year off.", "Well because it was posted by the reddit admins yesterday and he didn't make it just is reposting it" ]	7	videos	Reddit Recap 2021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMOjRCuMmsw&t=261s	/r/videos/comments/rcb7vn/every_time_sean_connery_misread_the_board_in_snl/	[ "Whore ads", "Golden. These were my first downloads on lime wire ever.", "This is a pale imitation of [SCTV's Halfwits](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIJna_6G244)" ]	4	videos	Every time Sean Connery misread the board in SNL Celebrity Jeopardy
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rcb84j/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/rcb84j/deleted_by_user/	[ "three\n\nhours\n\nlong?", "Haha yep, but probably worth every second.", "Three fucking hours!", "Not picking a fight but a video titled \"in defense of nicolas cage\" is, I assume, intended for people who arent fans?\n\nso.... \"lets make those people watch a 3 hour youtube video to change their minds\" is the idea here?\n\nthis entire concept is nicolas cage times a million.", "The video is more about the publics perception if him as an artist. It critiques both those who dislike and like him.", "I am glad I read the comments first. What with no Dislike button or anything. I don't waste that much time watching his movies." ]	6	videos	[deleted by user]
https://youtu.be/QjPfMXWzQKk	/r/videos/comments/rcblt7/christmas_in_september/	[ "Swedish people who watch this cartoon every year on Christmas eve at 3pm.\n\n[insert meme face here]", "Why is it at such a specific time? Just out of curiosity", "Too soon… wait I thought I was on dankmemes!", "Tradition. It’s been a thing for decades. \n3pm every Christmas eve. And now, Christmas ain’t Christmas without it." ]	4	videos	Christmas in September
https://youtu.be/saWNMPL5ygk	/r/videos/comments/rcbtv6/melodysheep_spent_the_last_13_months_making_this/	[ "His entire channel and Instagram are gold. Been following for years.", "oh wasnt even awware of his insta thanks", "Meh. Honestly, I didn't like this one very much.\n\nI really liked the silent ones, I thought they were true simple masterpieces, here there are some kinda goofy looking alien graphics and a lot of weird pseudo-profound kinda writing/narration that doesn't really say much. I didn't like mixing in literal UFO conspiracy nonsense like finding finding a message in our DNA (was the \"sobering\" line supposed to be a reference to Lue Elizondo?) alongside actually physically reasonable, scientific efforts that are taking place around the world. \n\nThe editing is as always excellent and it looks visually beautiful but the informational content is kinda meh.", "Yeah, plus since he started pushing NFTs of his models (which, inexplicably, seem to sell for $10k+ so why would any of his normal fans need to know about it?), I've lost interest in his channel." ]	4	videos	MelodySheep spent the last 13+ months making this amazing video - LIFE BEYOND 3: In Search of Giants. The hunt for intelligent alien life (4K)
https://youtu.be/7Somz5VNJIA	/r/videos/comments/rccaki/the_formula_1_title_fight_comes_to_a_close_this/	[ "Credit to /u/floodlenoodle", "That was excellent! Can't wait for Sunday morning.", "Can’t wait. Best F1 season in a long time. Rooting for Max to pull it off", "22 races and they managed to be level on points going into the last one, what a season it's been!", "What an amazing season it has been, Great edit", "To save people click/4.5 minutes, it's not a recap but a music video basically. It's slo-mo clips of Lewis Hamilton racing set to Frank Sinatra's \"My Way\".", "Yeah as someone who doesn't watch F1 but was keen to see a recap of the season it was very disappointing. The video only really makes sense if you already know whats happened this season.", "No matter who wins, Without Max this would just be another boring seasons of: whos going to be second place.\n\nBest season in years.", "And they've improved the previously awful Abu Dhabi circuit just in time, hopefully we will see a few more overtakes and a better race than the circuit usually provides.", "is this the OP's youtube or did you just reupload it", "I follow F1 through my gf's parents, they're big fans. I'm not sure I remember this correctly, but didn't Lewis basically take out Max in a couple races this season?", "Here's the original title:\n\nhttps://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/rbr5ax/ive_been_making_a_video_over_the_past_few_months/\n\nIt wasn't mean to be a recap, just a sort of tribute video. It's unfortunate that OP reuploaded it with this title because it's a cool video, just nothing close to a recap.", "So Its agreed, Lewis plays dirty and uses the racing line argument to force people off the track.", "From what I've seen of this season, both Max and Lewis were taking shots at each other.", "It has gone both ways this season. Max did have some really unlucky races though (tires getting punctures while in first etc)", "Its /u/floodnoodle youtube", "lol dont post that in the F1 subreddit. v contentious\n\n&#x200B;\n\nimo max has been the only one driving dangerously. not really a lewis fan but max is worse for endangering others", "I have no dog in this and mostly a casual observer. How it seemed to me is that he did get a number up unlucky breaks, whereas anything lucky that could possibly happen for Lewis Hamilton, did. \n\nThings like events when everyone's tires were getting destroyed and he gambled on his, they would someone just make it to the finish. Same with fuel gambles or yellow flag, etc. \n\nLest the fanatics falsely assume this undermines his skill, it doesn't. That came into play also, in numerous instances where he was deep or back of the field, and just calmly sliced through everyone. The main point things is that every time luck could have gone one way or the other, it always seemed to favor him.", "Yes, I'd like to see a five minute recap of this season. I'd told my partner to watch this year but warned them Formula 1 can often be boring as grass growing, but it turned out to be pretty interesting. There was one event that was fairly riveting yet only two laps were run.", "That was a very long intro to a video that didn't follow" ]	21	videos	The formula 1 title fight comes to a close this weekend. Here is a beautiful recap of the crazy season.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csRc2rQVkpc&feature=youtu.be	/r/videos/comments/rccc0f/could_you_pay_me_in_advance/	[ "Tobey Maguire and J.K. Simmons were the perfect cast for Spider-Man and J. Jonah Jameson.", "Maybe in that trend of getting 20 somethings to play teenagers. \n\nBut after seeing him aged to a teenager in this image, I feel maybe he was not perfect. https://screenrant.com/spiderman-tobey-maguire-high-school-age-accurate-fan-art/", "[Ye](https://youtu.be/9e5eHVSDYdI?t=2)", "i swear to god, jk simmons cast as j j jameson is so insanely perfect. it was like the character lept out of the comic books. fucking amazing.\n\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYekLbgY080\n\nevery second of this from jk simmons was brilliant. he's just the right amount of over the top to convert j j jameson into real life.", "Joel Jameson: \"Uh, Peter.....do you think you can get me pictures of Naked Spiderman???\"\n\nPeter: \"?!......no I can't do that\" \n\nJoel Jameson: \"Oh, alright. Well the bounty is 500$\"\n\nPeter: \"500?\" \n\nJoel Jameson: \"Yeah\" \n\nthe next day:\n\nhttps://i.imgur.com/6q6kR2u.png", "Pay you for what? You're barely animated.", "\"I said naked, dammit! You're fired!\"", "Idk, Daniel Redcliffe was increasingly older than Harry Potter he played in each subsequent movie (he was just one year older than the character in the first movie and by the time he played in the last (eighth) movie, he was five years older than Harry would've been) but I don't think anyone could tell the difference - he played HP pretty well and the age gap didn't make that much of a difference.", "Wasn't Peter in college in the 90s cartoon show? 20 seems fine.", "IDK, I think Tobey did the unconfident nerd part well but not the wisecracking Spiderman part well.", "Yeah. \n\nBut in the Toby films he’s getting the bus so highschool with all his other 20somethings classmates. \n\nAt the end of the day, I get why they cast older. It’s a minor thing", "Generally they cast older for a lot of reasons. Kids have extremely specific rules as to how long their work day can be. Adults are generally considered a little more predictable to work with. Sometimes they really don’t look that different than younger counterparts. Also it makes filming any romance scenes a million times less awkward when it isn’t an actual child.", "Me and my friends flipped a small car and I swung on ropes at the pool. My shoulders didn't break. The car was really hard to do and took both of us though lol. I think it was an 83 honda civic.", "Nah", "Ah yeah. Completely understand the reasons why", "If it was a direct drop sure, but he swings and its not 1000 ft either lol", "he doesnt swing from the top to the bottom, his web would take like 5 minutes to get up there lol", "The kid who plays Number 5 in Umbrella Academy is amazing. Best child actor I've seen.", "I need a gif of this.", "JJ simmons is the best", "Perfect response. 🗿", "[pizza time](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpvT-Fciu-4)" ]	23	videos	Could You Pay Me In Advance
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rcde4g/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/rcde4g/deleted_by_user/	[ "Signing is great. The music is... anemic. It's almost like the dynamic range has had all the life squeezed out of it.", "Great cover", "na... na... no uh un. fuck all that" ]	4	videos	[deleted by user]
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rcdll0/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/rcdll0/deleted_by_user/	[ "Yep! Someone reposted the section about Utopian cities on Instagram.", "Reminds me of the work of Bill Wurtz and The School of Life. Great Job!", "Yeah the editing style is very similar to Bill Wurtz with the sound effects at least.", "Cool video", "I'm liking the style of these a lot. Very informative and its great that more attention is being given to Eastern Philosophers.", "Very well done. This is a great highlight to someone who not only sounded talented & educated, but also humane and class aware in a time where information was not so easily accessed as it is today." ]	7	videos	[deleted by user]
https://youtu.be/2BueeaorHi0	/r/videos/comments/rce9td/memes_i_found_while_cleaning_the_house/	[ "Finally, some fucking good memes.\n\nEdit: robot voices reciting captions ruin good memes", "Why would you post this?", "There’s an entire subreddit deficated to memes where you could have posted this" ]	3	videos	Memes I found while cleaning the house
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMNsP7ccFNY	/r/videos/comments/rcebj2/tiger_spotted_in_houston_neighborhood/	[ "Fun fact: Texas has the largest population of domesticated Tigers in the world... so that's not surprising.", "[At one point they thought there were more tigers in Texas than in the wild](https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/verify-are-there-more-tigers-in-texas-than-in-the-wild/287-588841948)", "Yeah, seeing a Tiger accidentally loose in Texas is not shocking, lol.", "Its all fun and games until that damn carole baskins from tampa florida gets all up in your business." ]	4	videos	Tiger spotted in Houston neighborhood
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rcen0v/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/rcen0v/deleted_by_user/	[ "And some redditors post dumb shit like this", "i hate these types of videos, i could literally get a monkey or experimental ai to edit this stuff, it’s literally discord", "Damn that's amazing \nI tried editing\nIt takes a lot of time\nEven for the simplest of videos", "What software do you use?", "vita" ]	6	videos	[deleted by user]
https://youtube.com/watch?v=_M6vhDvmtrI	/r/videos/comments/rcesft/how_do_trains_switch_the_tracks/	[ "I thought with magic", "Well thats good to know", "CHOO CHOO!", "LETS GO TRAINGANG!", "as someone who drives a train a mile underground in a gold mine and sometimes lays track and fixes track and all too often derails, this was quite boring. we use different names for the parts of the track too.", "That's absolutely terrible CGI.", "Using the arrows, the train changes direction.", "Wait. FOUR MILLION subscribers?", "Chutiya.", "By the way, the train in the picture is very similar to the Russian Sapsan train developed by Siemens. And there is also a Swallow train like this [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkeeh-7bXpE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkeeh-7bXpE)", "Huh?", "Huh?", "One would think that ANY oversimplified video would be quite boring to a viewer who works in the represented field.", "I'm not sure if they use different terminology in other countries, but I used to work for a railroad manufacturer based in North America (Nortrak) who supplies these exact parts for US and CAN. They're called switch points, not tongue rails. They also failed to mention the part where the rails cross in the center is called a frog. What they call check rails are called guard rails. (reference: https://www.voestalpine.com/nortrak/en/products/#!view=products&product\\_category\\_ids=%2F.categories%2Fproduct%2Fcategory%2FFrogs-and-Guard-Rails%2F\|%2F.categories%2Fproduct%2Fcategory%2FSwitches\\_and\\_Switch\\_Drives%2F)", "This was very interesting.", "The train is an ICE 3, which Sapsan is a wider version of." ]	20	videos	How do trains switch the tracks?
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rcfmho/deleted_by_user/	/r/videos/comments/rcfmho/deleted_by_user/	[ "We called them waxbombs", "Done thousand times as a kid to show flamethrower of Charliezard", "I don’t understand how this relates to candles, looks like someone throwing gas on a fire", "This works with canola oil too, and snow will also get similar height in your plume." ]	4	videos	[deleted by user]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAjF20yph90	/r/videos/comments/rcg431/insane_footage_of_a_flood_wall_in_japan_being/	[ "Tsunami ", "Nature is scary.", "Water is mad powerful.", "Scary stuff. Does anyone know if those two guys on bicycles survived?", "This was actually in 2011, it was not circa 2011. Circa implies that it is roughly or approximately that time.", "The Unsolved Mysteries episode on this Tsunami was great. The Japanese are a persisitant people to continue to live in an area where tsunamis cause mass damage every few decades.", "https://64.media.tumblr.com/99baf4655b75e2584975e3de5c30c814/tumblr\\_nmbxb8w6Ia1tszwcio1\\_400.gifv", "People are persistent people. Lots of places around the world get fucked up by natural disasters on the regular and people keep living there.", "But it makes op sound smarter. He got like, 27 more IQ points from me just from writing such a fancy title.", "geezus you wicked smaht. I woulda never thought of that", "18,000 died apparently so outlook not great", "katrina was for pussies", "Circa is used for an approximate date. The tsunami was 2011.", "There was a dashcam video on youtube at the time with a car being swept by the flood for blocks before getting sucked down into a darkened parking garage. It was terrifying. But at least that guy survived to tell the tale.\n\nI looked for it now, but could not find it. Kudos to anyone who can.", "Cool, reposted from yesterday.", "Sounds like he needs to join a circ-us", "They aren't the only ones. People in the US live in flood plains that flood every 5 years, the government requires them to have special insurance such that the government basically pays for them to live there. It's kinda crazy, the people that live there are basically ok with their home and property being destroyed regularly and just replacing everything every few years.", "Also, this is not \"a video of a flood wall being breached\", this is a bunch of videos cut together by a random clickfarm.", "this reminded me to much of attack on titan. i wonder if there is some kinda inspiration here.", "OP getting wrecked, circa December 2021", "I wager the downvotes are more for the unusual use of the term \"cringe worthy\" than thinking that Katrina was a lesser tragedy/event.", "it was Circa March 11th, 2011 2:46 PM", "I'm gonna assume those 2 riding their bikes didn't make it", "OP getting wrecked in December 2021, Circa is an approximate date.", "Noooo! Now I’m* getting wrecked!", "This was the clip from the muppet news, you can hear the reporters shock in their voice. I remember it left them slack jawed in the studio", "I can't imagine they did. I was thinking about that, too.", "Omg….what happened to that girl on the bike 😔", "Is [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyLUQx-D71M) the one you're talking about?", "Correct but it could also be 2012, 2010 or at a stretch 2013 or 2009. The issue is that circa 2011 implies that the year is not known and we can only go by estimates. We know it was 2011, so I very much stand by my pedantry!", "Pedant\n\n /s", "Rule #1 of filming this stuff... just zoom out, ffs.", "Don't you mean circa 27 IQ points?", "A good jolt by the Cascadia Plate could give the Pac Northwest the same results.", "People scrolling Reddit, carefully reading each title, noticing OP used the word circa incorrectly\n\nhttps://media.giphy.com/media/uDwKGxTFrADvO/giphy.gif", "I saw this live on TV in a neighboring country and was at first like meh, and then ended with holy shit.", "Yes! The version I saw did not have narration, but that is it. Kudos to you.", "Circa is used to describe the age of something when the exact age is not known. We know the year of the earthquake/ tsunami so circa is entirely wrong in this context. It is nothing to do with laziness it is just wrong.\n\nYes, I will die on this hill!!" ]	38	videos	Insane footage of a flood wall in Japan being breached circa 2011.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sl0EaDwcN4	/r/videos/comments/rcgsfy/the_beatles_describe_the_beginning_of_beatlemania/	[ "I lived in Playa Del Carmen Mexico for a few months, it's close to Cancun. I remember talking to a cab driver. He asked \"Why do Americans come down here and break laws?\"\n\nUS College kids fly to some Mexican beach town, do drugs, get into fights, drunk drive, hire hookers, the works.\n\nThat line of \"They used us as an excuse to go mad, then blamed it on us\". Maybe it's the same function? \n\nKids go to Vegas or Key West or Cancun, act like barbarians, then \"Well it was Vegas, city built for bad behavior\".\n\nSick shit.", "That sounds so lonely.", "What if we just created a day... a single day each year where people can get out all of their frustrations without having to worry about the consequences... Call it... The Expunge?", "How about... THE MERGE\n\nCause you get to Merge with your wild side?", "Can it be fancy dress?", "At least they had each other to hang and empathize with.", "And when we see kids getting rowdy, we can say that they've got a case of the urge... the urge to merge.", "“They used us as an excuse to go mad”\n\nHahahahaaaaa perfect description of Bacchanalian Maenads.", "yup - i remember one of them saying it made them feel really bad for elvis, cause he was probably the only person who knew what the insanity was like, but he was all by himself. it might be later in this special, actually.", "From what I hear other bands used to think how weird it was The Beatles were always together during those first few years. Like if you saw Paul you'd always see John, George, and Ringo soon after.", "George Harrison was the youngest, but he was also the wisest.", "Really apt by Harrison. You've got this generation of extremely repressed teenagers who get presented a conduit to unleash their emotions, and it overwhelms them in such a mad way. And the objects of this emotional outburst have no real agency.", "This is why I would love to be rich but I never want to be famous", "I guess it's not exactly the same, but isn't that kinda the idea of Mardi Gras?", "Our we could call it \"the rebase\"", "The \"Splurge\"?" ]	16	videos	The Beatles describe the beginning of Beatlemania.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8SiyC4VMcw&t=2s	/r/videos/comments/rcgxdb/a_female_revenge_tale_a_passion_project_i_spent_a/	[ "I have most of these on video. However I can't find Gunpowder Milkshake, Kate, and Jolt yet. I'm guessing because they're too new.", "Perhaps? I found most of them through a private invite only torrent site i’ve been on for years. Some were harder to find i think, i do remember a couple it was harder to find a decent high quality version of the film.", "Gunpowder Milkshake and Kate are on Netflix and Jolt is an Amazon original. I guess they need to sell subscriptions before releasing on video." ]	3	videos	A Female Revenge Tale - A passion project I spent a couple of months working on!
https://youtu.be/QFgcqB8-AxE	/r/videos/comments/rch9bl/democracy/	[ "A wise man said.", "Show me the lie.", "People being retarded and easy to mislead is the main problem with democracy. More so now than ever before.\n\nThe only solution I see is to limit democracy to those who can prove they're paying attention. 25 multiple choice questions about the current state of affairs in the nation, as well as questions about the major issues in society, such as law, industry, economy, environment, medicine, education and crime.\n\nDemocracy is the best form of government, but perhaps making it too easily accessible for people who aren't paying attention to what goes on in society is a mistake.\n\nMore or less the equivalent of an Financial Literacy test, except for societal issues.", "> The only solution I see is to limit democracy to those who can prove they're paying attention. 25 multiple choice questions about the current state of affairs in the nation, as well as questions about the major issues in society, such as law, industry, economy, environment, medicine, education and crime.\n\nYeah and who is going to determine what those questions will be?\n\nThose in charge.\n\nWho will make sure these people will stay in charge? Those who are allowed to vote.\n\nWho will be allowed to decide who will be allowed to vote?\n\nThose in charge.\n\nDo you see the problem with this?\n\nWe've been through all of this already many, many times. We've tried these kinds of systems. We KNOW that these kinds of systems end in corruption and failure and become grotesque parodies of what they were supposed to represent.\n\nThose in power will design these questionnaires to exclude exactly the kind of people that wouldn't vote for them, or find rules that will exclude these people anyways.\n\nAnd if you don't believe me, feel free to look up the kind of tests black people had to do to \"prove\" they were literate.", "This video has been posted on here like 10 times the past week. And the only reason you post it is because the youtube algorithms serve this shit in your video recommendations. Please just stop.", "Counterpoint - it's always going to be some group of people deciding what happens with government. If it's not \"the\" people then it's going to be some smaller group. And I don't care what educational credentials you require, that smaller group will be just as \"retarded\" ...\n\nonly this time they also would be less representative of the whole country and more representative of one narrow group.", "Back in the Jim Crow South they had literacy tests, and of course they were used to exclude black people. [Here](https://sharetngov.tnsosfiles.com/tsla/exhibits/aale/pdfs/Voter%20Test%20LA.pdf) is an example, and the first question (note that one wrong answer meant you failed):\n\n> Draw a line around the number or letter of this sentence. \n\nWTF does that even mean?\n\nBut even if you had a fair literacy test, it still would be a bad idea. To quote Jamelle Bouie - \"An uneducated black sharecropper circa 1880 may not have been 'informed' in the way we understand it, but I assure you he had a strong enough sense of his interests to make an engaged choice about his government.\"\n\nWhen they limited the vote to the more \"educated\" people, what did that accomplish exactly? A one-party authoritarian state that, even discounting the racism, was poorly run, and economically backwards.", "Saw someone on twitter ratio someone else for posting this saying this dude is an actual bio-terrorist. Confirm it for me for I am to tired", "The whole theory of Democracy is that the 'wisdom of the crowd' will win out at the end. There are retarded people on one side of the issue, but their vote will be countered by knowledgeable people on the other side of the issue. So the goal is to get everyone to vote. This is why anything that obstructs the ability to vote or causes cynicism in the process is the worst thing that can happen to democracy.", "It is a simple but fundamental problem with various forms of Enlightened Despotism. Be it Monarchy, to a aristocracy or to a limited voting. How the hell do you prove or verify that enlightenment? It always end up being founded on some axiom, often times those axioms are weak. \n\nHere is a rule: Everybody gets a brain scan and a panel of scientists decide who should rule. Sound fine, right? \n\nEven with this, we assume axiomatically that a group of scientists have the means to determine the eligibility of a ruler from a brain scan. Or hell let's go deeper, we assume the brain holds the necessary qualities for a ruler. \n\nIt is the classic AM/FM problem of engineering.", "He was the founder of the group that carried out [these attacks](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_Rajneeshee_bioterror_attack). They involved salmonella and no one was killed. The goal was to make certain communities too sick for voting on election day. This dude claimed one of his followers was responsible but still got deported as part of a plea deal after the attacks.", "And I completely agree with that logic, but we've had democracy for a while now and politicians have figured out that appealing to the whims of people who are not well informed, so that they can effectively game the system, quickly gaining power but delivering none of the policies they are promising.\n\nSo for democracy to persist, the way we do things has to change. Otherwise it will fail in our lifetimes.\n\nAnd I won't claim to have a perfect solution either. I probably don't. But improvement is needed.", "“27. Write right from the left to the right as you see it spelled here.”\n\nGod damn. Every trick question gets exponentially more fucked", "iirc, he was deported because his visa indicated he was a religious leader, but he went through a period of three and half years in which he didn't speak. The government determined his visa wasn't valid because he couldn't be fulfilling duties as a religious leader if he didn't even speak to his followers.", "Isn’t this that guy that had that cult that poisoned a bunch of people and tried to take over a city government or something?", "Fuck this guy and his cult", "What? Who said that, I have never heard anything like that. Wisdom of the crowd could be synonymous with mob mentality... This equal distribution of retardedness doesn't make much sense when you look at extreme right and compare with extreme left.", "That's really not much different than the way things are with lobbyist controlling the fed.", "It will fail when the GOP operatives being established in state positions all over the US simply refuse to certify any results they don't agree with.", ">Wisdom of the crowd could be synonymous with mob mentality\n\nIt could if you are misrepresenting democracy. A mob implies violence. Voting is not violent so it does not meet that definition. Also we have protections against 'mob mentality' in the form of rights enforced by the rule of law.\n\n>This equal distribution of retardedness doesn't make much sense when you look at extreme right and compare with extreme left.\n\nThis assumes there for a given problem both ends of the spectrum of the solution are 'retarded'. That is not a requirement. Also even in the theory that both ends are 'retarded' they will stil cancel themselves out. The scenario you are saying is that what if one side has too many retards. If that is the case then there is no form of government that would correct the problem except a benevolent dictatorship. Those can exist, they just can't stand the test of time. Hence the saying “democracy is the worst form of government – except for all the others that have been tried.\"", "This was true when Plato said it, it's true now. Nothing changes except the props.", "Really? I check this sub daily and this is the first time I’ve seen it. For some people it’s new." ]	22	videos	Democracy
https://youtu.be/_Oaw9_YRzeo	/r/videos/comments/rchrwh/year_in_google_searches_2021/	[ "oh that's so uplifting...", "yours makes porridge with water.", "I did wonder how to get my dick unstuck from the toaster. I'm glad I'm not the only one.", "Okay, I've sufficiently calmed down from my laughing fit. This is easily the funniest video of the year. \n\nIn case anyone want [spoilers then here](https://youtu.be/_Oaw9_YRzeo?t=57) but I recommend watching it all for the full effect.", "It's such an inspiring video." ]	5	videos	Year in Google Searches 2021
http://blockchainacademics.gobrlink.com/vid14fr10	/r/videos/comments/rci4fq/5_crypto_coins_to_buy_now/	[ "if a video is telling you to buy now, you should prob look into them and then avoid like cancer to many fake hyped up coins.\n\nref: https://esports-news.co.uk/2021/07/02/save-the-kids-cryptocurrency-scandal-faze-influencers-opinion/", "Yeah don't get financial advice from random people on Youtube please.\n\nAlso, fuck Crypto Coins.", "Had us until the 2nd half. Crypto is the future", "Trash crypto scam video. Trash affiliate link to the video. Trash. Go post this on one of the endless shitcoin subreddits. You people are annoying.", "Not while it needs an insane amount of power and doesn't scale at all and requires a central authority for it to be at least somewhat safe (which defeats the entire damn purpose).", "You’re wrong. Crypto is run on the fucking blockchain which is powered by us and forever us. Miss out on your opportunity and look back in 10 years like “damn”. People don’t like change, too bad it’s coming", "Yes yes, Crypto runs purely on the fuel of love." ]	11	videos	5 Crypto Coins To Buy NOW!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdfJq1e_yKk	/r/videos/comments/rcih5a/64_bits_demake_god_of_war_for_playstation_1/	[ "Nice. I’d play this on mobile.", "Playstation 1 was a 32 bit system, not 64.", "… it’s the creators name", "Thank you, I didn't know. It's a wee bit misleading.", "All the 3D models look great but the 2D sprites and animation look too high quality for a PS1 game. I'd say this looks like something that could be on the Nintendo DS." ]	5	videos	64 Bits Demake - God of War for Playstation 1
https://youtu.be/1DmabQguml4	/r/videos/comments/rcj90y/riz_ahmed_on_his_identity_the_big_narstie_show/	[ "Dude is so absurdly talented. \n\n[Link to his music](https://youtu.be/q4Yb8AWXgLI)", "In the 90s this was The Most Annoying Two Questions.\n\nQuestion 2 being \"No, but where are you REALLY from tho?\" when you told them, \"London\".", "its england, he's from england", "Or \"Oh OK. Where are your parents from?\". SMH", "This was brilliantly performed by him at the end of his shortfilm The Long Goodbye.\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lzz50xENH4g\n\nLoved him in movie Sound of Metal (2019) as well.", "I'm second generation, the answer to that would still not be what they wanted", "I want him as the next Bond", "For me personally it's the wording more than the curiosity. The indication is that my identity as a Briton is invalidated by what came before. I don't mind people asking about my heritage", "I guess I just don't understand what's so annoying about it. I mean, if the question is understood for what it really is, that is \"what is your ethnicity?\", it seems a perfectly reasonable, innocently misstated question that's been twisted into a somehow-racist inquiry by people who claim to be proud of their heritage. What am I missing?", "I found that annoying, not sure why people like this kind of thing. It reminds me of Pam Ayers. \n\nI’m happy to learn what anyone sees in this. All I’m getting is some very mediocre rhyming and someone taking himself a bit too seriously.\n\nWrong,\nWant,\nWrong,\nAt,\nAt,\nAt,\nThat,\nFlag,\nPack…", "But they would never ask that to Dave, the white bloke from Brixton who has just as diverse a racial heritage as any other ethnic minority.", "Are you asking about the poetry style or the context?", "I remember this girl in class whose parents were Slovakian never had to deal with any of the things I dealt with, with my parents being born and raised in the UK (my grandparents are Pakistani). Identity is only skin deep to some", "I think I get the context, I mean people have asked me where I’m from and I’ve asked people what their heritage is. I get he doesn’t like that and took it badly.\n\nI don’t like the style very much, are you enjoying this?", "Not my experience, what's been explained to me - constant reminder to people that there's something different about them that's obvious to the people they meet - not necessarily a problem on its own, but if those differences have been used against them in the past, and this happens often, it can start to make them feel like they don't belong and that their difference is bad. More about the pattern and the feelings it brings up than each single question.", "The thing is, I understood even as a kid that none of the people asking were being racist. In fact it was clearly the opposite, they were genuinely interested in knowing who I was and what I'm about.\n\nUnfortunately, it never occurred to them that to someone who was not only born in that country, to parents who were also born in that country - but who doesn't necessarily have any sort of emotional attachment to or even deep knowledge of their \"home\" country, all that question sounds like is \"You might have a passport, but you're not really from here, are you? Not really.\" or \"You, whose family have been here since the 50s are basically the same as some refugee fresh off the boat\" - which is the kind of thing an actual racist would think.\n\nSo all that's to say, there's no real good answer to your question - if you ask it, you're just as likely to get a good natured story about someone's family history as you are a dirty eyefucking. Depends entirely on how offense the person wants to take at the end of the day.", "I'm a big fan of spoken word poetry. I was raised with Gil Scott Heron, Omar Musa, Allen Ginsberg. But I get that it's not for everyone. Plus the idea of identity for children of the diaspora is a very personal topic for me. He really speaks to the infuriating nature of how difficult it is to feel at home in any one place, and how easy it is to be disenfranchised by a community that seems to invalidate your position in society based on a very superficial idea of identity. I dealt with a lot of people of authority telling me I wasn't British or as British as they were", "Haven't seen this suggestion before, but it would work.", "> I guess I just don't understand what's so annoying about it.\n\nBecause you haven't been asked it your whole life. I grew up in Texas but my parents are south Asian. Whenever someone asks me where I'm from I say Texas. And they just stare at me. Every single time. Because it's never enough that I'm from Texas, I have to tell them where I'm really from, even though if they said they were from Texas no one would ever ask them what part of Europe their parents came from.\n\nTo be clear, I don't think the question is racist, but it does wear on you.", "^ 100% my thoughts as someone who goes through this a lot", "In my culture it shows you care about people to ask what their background is. I’ve never thought it made people think they weren’t British, I thought it made them more interesting. \n\nThis guy seems like he’d be a pain in the ass to talk to about anything, nevermind casual conversation. \n\nI’m British Romany/Gypsy btw, where you come from is just a general question because in the traveller community you ask that and who their family is, then what their dad does.", "Because it’s something you can’t change, says nothing about who you are really, and yet it’s the most important thing to them for some reason. Let’s not act like most people are worldly and curious, rather than trying to pigeonhole you or worse.", "I guess it really is a difference of experience. Were you never made to feel less British because of your Romany background?\n\nI currently live in the Czech Republic and Romany community is treated like dirt here, it's insane. I've heard doctors literally say \"I'm not racist but [insert backwards gypsy stereotype here]\"", "Lol yes they really hate us in Eastern Europe. I had a Slovakian coworker who was really lovely, then someone brought up Gypsies and she turned around and spat, like she was conditioned or something.\n\nLess British though, possibly yes. Just because my culture isn’t all landowners, they do divide us from the settled community. At school they put us in a different room, literally. \n\nBritish just means a mix of everyone though, I know my black friend said she didn’t feel British so I get it’s a complex topic. She’s British though. \n\nSo are you Czech or from somewhere else, or is it rude to ask that.", "Yeah but where is he really from", "I'm British, but I live in the Czech Republic, and have done for the last 7 years. That's wild that the Slovakian woman did that. Who on earth thinks that's a reasonable response to anything? Did anyone say anything?", "Deleted.", "Wouldn't that be third generation in that case? \n\nJust been reading up, apparently the term first generation is ambiguous, and by extension so too is second generation. First generation can mean people who were foreign born, or it can also include people born to at least one immigrant parent.", "I think the latter. What about someone who immigrated at the age of 50? Def not first gen. Do you draw a line at a certain age if you think it’s the former?", "You can ask anyone where they're from. But you shouldnt ask someone where they're REALLY from.", "The telly", "I didn't realise there was debate on the definition. I was always just told that's what I was", "Cool, even if it is oversensitivity (which it really isn't), people are allowed to be oversensitive.", "Who told you poems have to rhyme, or that your opinion even matters?", "Interesting name. What *nationality* is are you? Bitch, I'm American. You mean, ethnicity.", "I’m white and I’ve been asked where my people come from many times. It’s not a big deal. I say that I’m mostly German and Scottish and maybe have a some convo about it or whatever. I’ve asked other white people what their background is many many times and they don’t get offended at all. Why do people that aren’t white freak tf out if you ask them what their background is? I never have asked a person of color because I know they’re going to get all pissy and offended and I honestly don’t get why.", "Dude oozes talent. Check out his poetry or music. Representing us brown folk in the best light possible.", "They don’t have to rhyme, but when they rhyme ‘at’ with ‘at’ then rhyming badly is a strange choice. \n\nWeird dig about my opinion, it’s the internet and every opinion is equal. I’ve asked about other people’s opinions on it respectfully, and there’s no rule that a reply has to like it, it’s art.\n\nOp got that, which made me think he’s got culture.", "You haven’t experienced it as you already explained, so how would you really know? I can understand how it would be frustrating after a while because it’s going to maybe make you feel like you’re not just accepted as being simply from Texas (for example). But I also don’t think there’s anything racist about it, most people are simply curious about someone’s heritage to find out the journey their families came from, because as much as people want to ignore it in the US, it IS the story of this country through and through.", "In the US, recent immigrant populations tend towards the former definition. The latter tends to be used by people of irish/italian/german heritage whose families emigrated further back.", "Yeah, to you, no one cares.", "I definitely think people are rating this far higher for the \"message\" than the way it's being delivered.\n\nIt's just a really obvious complaint, with some weird history and average wordplay. Not terrible, but definitely not something I'd get out of my seat for.", "My understanding is it isn't just asking 'what is your ethnicity?' it's asking that question while at the same time denying that you could be a part of the community you were born into. The 'really from' part communicates that they won't consider you a real part of the community you are literally from and treats you as an 'other' who doesn't belong. \n\nAlso whether people are proud of their heritage varies a lot, seems like a big generalisation you're making there", "You can just directly ask someone 'what is your ethnicity?' but I'd expect they might want to know why it matters or why you're asking", "Charlie Brooker's dead set", "I've had bosses at work ask and make fun of me for having Polish heritage. Couldn't care less.", "Incredible. That outro bit really makes you think.", "\"But my people built the west\"\n\nWait, what?", "He's obviously very talented, but it bugs me how he wants to have his cake and eat it to.", "Its a pretty reasonable question though", "British empire built on the back of colonialism\n\nOR\n\nCheap labour that sprung from loosened immigration laws that allowed for Britain's post-war economic boom in the 50s (and why a lot of the diasphoric children are in the UK today)", "Where did you say you were from, when people asked?", "I'm white and I get asked where I'm from all the time. Also, sometimes I want to have a conversation with someone about the time I spent in India, or Vietnam, or Japan, and I want to know if they have any historical roots in the area. Also, I ask white people all the time where their ancestors are from, because people from different backgrounds often have different ways of looking at the world.\n\nBut whatever, everyone gets to choose what they take offense at, I suppose.", "I though you meant people didn’t ask “where are you really from”. It’s strange that no one ever asked where you were from. I’m British and when I was in America people asked constantly.", "england.", "You know Riz Ahmed is British, right? No one has made this specifically about America.", "No, the first time I explained to you where those feelings came from and no one cares about your personal experience or feelings on the matter if this is felt by others. You're the one who seems to have an issue with that reality, I'm just letting you know what's up, sweetheart.", "Because they're \"really\" from London. If they were from somewhere else, then they would have said so.", "Cool story.", ">I'm white\n\nCould've stopped there tbh. No offense, but it's a different outlook on life for minorities.You may see it as innocent curiousity, and it may well be, but \"where you're from\" pretty much means \"you don't belong here\" when I hear it.", "Maybe this is a good time to have people take a look at the TCK (third culture kids) subreddit: [https://www.reddit.com/r/TCK](https://www.reddit.com/r/TCK)", "I've been bullied as a brown person my whole childhood (the only brown person in school) but that question doesn't bother me. Frankly if the person is being kind, it's just a step for them to know me better. I can also ask the question right back with equal curiosity (not as a barb) and the conversation is usually pretty good. \n\nHowever, making an issue about pronouncing my name and how difficult it is however is fatiguing esp when done in a drawn out fashion.", "Because the question implies that you aren't \"really\" one of us...you're an outsider. An other. And in a society where xenophobia and otherization can have serious implications it's a big deal.", "Go for it, pal. You seem to know so much about me, I must have a summer home rent-free in your mind by this point. \n\nSpoiler alert: You're gonna be disappointed with your research, or how silly assumptions are based on someone's reddit username, you clown.", "Deleted.", "He was responding to someone who said Europeans never get asked this.", "Wtf, you think I give a shit enough about our little interaction here to report you? Sorry man, but reporting you wouldn’t even cross my mind. You didn’t do anything wrong besides being a bit of a clown.", "You can make up all the lies you want, show me a screenshot where it says it was me and I'll show you a shitty photoshop. Stop making up bullshit. Show some proof, you absolute clown. I don't even know what reddit cares is and have never ever reported anyone here, it's fucking reddit who cares?", "That sounds like it's on you for assuming the worst in people. Also white people can be visible minorties too, believe it or not.", "I don’t think you understand my response. I’m saying when people ask me where my ancestors came to America from I answer it without being offended because there is literally nothing to be offended about. And that should go with anyone no matter what race they are. It’s just stating a fact that your people came from Russia or Nigeria or Spain or wherever the hell. Im not talking about when people ask me where my home town is. Just because you’re asked that doesn’t mean you have the right to assume they’re a racist, bigoted pos and they have no empathy etc. It’s a bit more likely the person asking is just genuinely curious or trying to make conversation with you.", "Dude just stfu", "Deleted.", "I have a white friend from Poland with a minor accent who gets asked this shit all the time.\n\nAgain, people get to choose what they are offended by.", "Something tells me no matter if I asked you where you’re from or what ethnicity you are you’d find a reason to be offended. No offense.", "The fuck else he gonna do with cake?", "Deleted.", "I think it’s hilarious. I know I didn’t report you, and you say you saw me do it, so I know you’re lying and just burying yourself deeper in whatever ego-protecting process your clown ass brain is going through. If only you didn’t care like you don’t care about people asking about ethnicity. Ah well.", "He use to rap battle \n\nhttps://youtu.be/aPSCoy4R-RQ", "Just.. wow.", " I thought he was doing a spoof at first because he was so super serious. Plus I’ve heard that ‘where are you really from’ joke a few times, it’s kind of a meme. I liked him in 4 Lions.", "Feeling", "Ungrateful foreigner. He should leave if he doesn't like it right? \n\n/S \n\n(Just say you don't like brown people, it's quicker)", "I never really took issue with the question but I'm from a city with a high immigrant population. Usually, when it's brought up, I'm with a group of immigrants and we're all trying to learn about each other. There was a meet up group I went to before the pandemic. The white couple were German, the South Asian looking guy was actually from Guyana, the black guy was from Nigeria who moved to the UK then the US then to Canada. The only person who was born and grew up there was an Asian guy. I guess, from my perspective, it's an easy yet interesting way to start conversation. You always have to account for tact, of course. How you bring up the topic matters and IMO, where some people miss.", "Something tells me no matter how many perspectives you are exposed to you'll never understand what it's like to be discriminated against.", "The west as we know it doesn't exist without the exploitation of the resources and peoples of Africa, Asia and North America. The majority of the British Empires GDP came from British India.", "> Just say you don't like brown people, it's quicker\n\nWTF are you talking about? o.O I am a \"brown person\", for fuck's sake. I guess that makes you a bigot for disagreeing with me, right? SWJ reasoning.\n\nThe point is that he's not a foreigner. Jesus, stupid people are annoying.", "Riz Ahmed related media that I don't think enough people saw. One of my favourites.\n\n'The Night Of' - a miniseries about a man (Riz) accused of murdering someone, and the ensuing discovery and drama during the lead up to the trial.", "Absolutely great show. He smashed that role", "From my experience on the west coast and Hawaii and being east Asian, I'm first generation as I was born here and my parents were the ones who immigrated here. At least that how it was explained to me growing up in the 90s", "Still waiting for proof I reported you, pal.\n\nI have a feeling we'll be waiting a long time. Maybe look up a photoshop tutorial.\n\nYou've got issues, buddy.", "Cause they don't ask what's your ethnicity. I'm Asian and I've been asked where I'm from, what's my nationality (cause these dumb dumbs don't know the difference between ethnicity and nationality) I am proud of my heritage and have no issues with people who ask what ethnicity I am. But I was born in America and my nationality is American.", "Yeah but I was born in America, I speak like I'm from California, just cause I'm ethnically Asian means you get to ask me where I'm from? No no originally from? And then when I ask where they're from they say here but I'm relatively certain your European (not you particularly but the people who ask this question to me ) ethnic tree isn't from here either.", "Ask properly. Hey man what ethnicity are you? Or hey man wheres that accent from. Don't ask them where they're from, or what nationality they are. They're from here and they're American. \n\nRule of thumb though is don't ask that to African Americans. The knowledge of their ethnicity was stolen from them and some may take offense.\n\n\nEdit:\nI'll tell you what happened to me in CA a bit over a month ago. I'm in line at the grocery store and old dude behind me goes \"you should get wine with that\" and I kind nod and say ok. And then he goes \"thats what they drink with the food your getting in China\". And that's when I say oh I've never been. Then I get a \"oh where are you from\" \nI'm from California. \"no where are you originally from\" buddy I was born here. And then thats when he realized he had his foot in his mouth. \"oh well I love Asia I go to Thailand all the time. I used to date a Thai girl\". This is not an uncommon occurrence for those of us who are not white. Imagine being tall and every other person greets you with a how's the weather up there. It's going to grind on you even if it's said without malice.", "“Where are you from?” Is a reasonable question. If you have to follow up with “where are you _really_ from?” It’s indicative you genuinely haven’t listened to the person.\n\nIf they say Britain, who are you to say they’re not, and that’s what’s charged behind the question, “where are you _really_ from?”", "Man, that video is really beautiful and tragic and well done, but I have to ask (as an American who doesn't know a ton about the immigration and racial issues taking place in the UK,) is that a thing that really happens? Are there really groups of people supported by the police that are pulling minorities out of their homes and either killing them or separating them from their children?\n\nTo be clear, I am not asking this to be challenging in any way, I really have no idea what the racial tensions are like in Great Britain haha.", "yea youre right, its definitely super condescending to phrase it like that.\nI mean its pretty reasonable to ask a follow up question. Something along the lines of like, wheres your family from? Or where are your parents from? Whats your background?\n\nIm from NY so I meet people all the time that have interesting backgrounds, and i love to ask about it to see where they come from", "Yes, you are.", "No it's not like that. It's supposed to be set in a dystopian future.", "Will add to this that it's not just a dystopian future but one he fears based on the racist abuse he sees. Ye, it's extreme, far fetched, and complete hyperbole but he is making a point about the world he sees around him and it makes you think about where we are heading, as its supposed to!", "I've always thought of it as the former. No age limit. Basically first generation is the people who actually migrated.\n\nEdit: if I had to draw a line it would be in the inverse of what you think. Like maybe people who are foreign born, but migrated as children or babies.", "Just say you don't like brown people, it's quicker.", "He is the pilot", "who the f is big narstie and why is he everywhere in the UK? saw him on big fat quiz, QI, etc? How does he a show and all these appearances?", "The way you’re doing some highschool drama shit and putting words in his mouth makes me think you’re not even POC, just a dude trying to get a high off of false self righteousness or pats on the back.", "Great publicist", "Bro. Try a little more effort to an argument. \n\n“Yeah”\n\n“Alright then I’m on board”.", "EYYY he's an intense dude. I edited and worked on his first video here in the states a few years back. \"[benny Lava\"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLlYykSUXLk)\n\n&#x200B;\n\nedit: here's a [behind the scenes](https://vimeo.com/85197531)of the one day shoot", "Representation of British Paksitanis (and by extension british asians of all sorts) is more problematic for the UK then having a black bond/female bond. That bit is just a messy cultural import that is relatively less relevant for the UK. Him as bond would be a great way forward for British filmmaking.", "I haven't fucked w this guy since I saw on his wiki he had to pay damages for falsely accusing someone of attempted assault on twitter.", "He said built the west, not Britain (and that itself is debateable)\n\nThe US, Germany, France, Spain, Italy etc weren't built by Pakistani people. Its a massive sweeping statement that has a bit of truth when concerning one particular country out of the couple dozen or so Western nations.\n\nAlso whilst it is true that many members of the commonwealth were invited to immigrate to the UK in the 50's, most economists agree that Britains post war 'boom' paled in comparison to most other western nations and is the reason Britain lagged behind the large superpowers of the world.", "Interesting that the guy with the gun at 7:24 has an Irish accent.", "This response to my comment makes no sense. Annoying as always!", "[ Jump to 07:24 @ Riz Ahmed - The Long Goodbye](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lzz50xENH4g&t=0h7m24s)\n \n ^(Channel Name: Riz Ahmed, Video Length: [11:42])^, [^Jump ^5 ^secs ^earlier ^for ^context ^@07:19](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lzz50xENH4g&t=0h7m19s) \n \n----------------------------------------------------------------------------- \n \n ^^Downvote ^^me ^^to ^^delete ^^malformed ^^comments. [^^Source ^^Code](https://github.com/ankitgyawali/reddit-timestamp-bot) ^^\| [^^Suggestions](https://www.reddit.com/r/timestamp_bot)", "Sure it does. You disagree with me, I'm brown, therefore you hate brown people. Just applying your shit-for-brains logic. \\shrug\\", "As a Pakistani-American this hits hard.", "What a bum", "> The west as we know it doesn't exist without the exploitation of the resources and peoples of Africa, Asia and North America.\n\nAgreed, thats why countries without access to Asian, African and American colonies in Europe are still dirt poor to this day. See for example places like Austria, Switzerland, Sweden, Denmark, Ireland and Finland. No colonies and still poor.\n\nEdit: Look, I'm well aware I'm going to cop downvotes on this due to it not being a kneejerk 'hurrrrr imperialism bad. end comment' circlejerk. But the evidence for the impact of imperialism on European growth and wealth is very thin. Imperialism is bad. But its trivially easy to point out that it largely is irrelevant for growth and development in developed countries (see how fast Taiwan, South Korea, Singapore grew without colonies or slaves). I provide sources in this [comment](https://old.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rcj90y/riz_ahmed_on_his_identity_the_big_narstie_show/hnx614b/?context=3) and this [comment](https://old.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/rcj90y/riz_ahmed_on_his_identity_the_big_narstie_show/hnx70zz/?context=3) if anyone actually cares.", "Oh shit, I thought this was just an album! Looking forward to watching it.", "First off: Those countries all did still benefit from exploited goods and labour, just less directly. And Austria, Denmark, and Sweden all had colonies, they were just relatively small. \n\n>The west as we know it\n\nThis is key, as obviously the west would exist without colonialism, but it wouldn't exist in the same form. Colonies were a huge economic driver for the major powers in Europe.", "Is there a way to be curious about someone’s culture/heritage without being annoying/insulting? Is it just something you should avoid unless someone offers? I think it’s a completely different line of questioning than “where are you from?”", "the richest empire to ever exist at the time was the mughal empire and the british exploited all the natural resources \n\nhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_history_of_India\n\nIndia experienced deindustrialisation and cessation of various craft industries under British rule,[14] which along with fast economic and population growth in the Western world, resulted in India's share of the world economy declining from 24.4% in 1700 to 4.2% in 1950,[15] and its share of global industrial output declining from 25% in 1750 to 2% in 1900.", ">Colonies were a huge economic driver for the major powers in Europe.\n\nAcademic source? Because I'm very familiar with the economic history literature and this is not what it says. As in I've done this at postgraduate level.\n\nColonialism had massive impacts on the growth trajectories of colonised countries (e.g. they are poorer today than they would have otherwise been), but it only contributed marginally to European countries' development.\n\nEdit:\n\n>>The British worried in 1776-1783 and in 1899-1902 and in 1947 about the loss of their various bits of empire. But is the average British person worse off now than when Britain ruled the waves? By no means. British income per head boomed after losing colonies in 1783 and 1947, and stagnated in 1902-1914 after expensively keeping the Boer Republics in the Empire. Nowadays, after the tragic loss of maps painted red, British real national income per capita is higher than ever, and is among the very highest in the world— in 2007 a little bit above, adjusted to purchasing power parity, that of France, Germany, Italy; though a good deal below its former and terribly exploited colonies Hong Kong, Singapore, Ireland, and the United States. Did the acquisition of Empire, then, cause spurts in British growth? By no means. Indeed, as I said, at the climax of imperial pretension, in the 1890s and 1900s, holding sway to the east and west of Suez, the growth of British real income per head notably slowed.\n\n>https://mpra.ub.uni-muenchen.de/20696/1/MPRA_paper_20696.pdf\n\n>That is a direct claim about imperialism and colonies.\n\n>As a corollary, sometimes these claims are wrapped up with claims about slavery as well - as both were exploitative practices. However, for context and a yardstick to measure against, we can see at the height of the triangular slave trade that it contributed only to 3% of total capital formation in 1770.\n\n>https://cpb-us-e1.wpmucdn.com/sites.northwestern.edu/dist/3/1222/files/2016/06/Editors-Introduction-The-New-Economic-History-1999-1thoner.pdf\n\n>It is widely recognised that institutions, such as equality before the law or respect for property rights are by far the most important drivers in growth and wealth (source below). It may have made sense to ascribe to colonialism or slavery the wealth of developed countries in 1945 (when it was limited to the West and Japan), but how can one now ascribe it to those factors when a number of countries who were subjected to foreign control have now achieved incomes comparable to the West (Taiwan, South Korea etc.)\n\n>https://economics.mit.edu/files/4469", "Can we just keep Bond white please? It seems like a massive fucking gimmick to make him black, brown, a woman, LGBTQ, or anything else trendy and in vogue.\n\nThere's no reason a new IP spy movie can't be made that features a British-Pakistani. \n\nThere's no need to change the character of James Bond.", "Yeah, that's fine too of course.", "Have you ever heard of artistic license?", "I just feel all these attempts to change Bonds race/gender is just peak culture war bullshit. It won't do anything for race relations, and will likely just breed contempt between all the parties involved. \n\nWhite people will be pissed at seeing a character that is traditionally a white male, be changed to another race or gender. \n\nWhatever race or gender he is turned into will be pissed at the backlash. \n\n\nI just think the world could do without it all. It's just going to cause arguments.", "Finland…poor? Hahahahahahaha", "The issue isn't the \"where are you from?\". It's the \"where are you REALLY from?\". As if the first answer isn't enough to be considered a real answer. Asking about heritage is fine", "Sounds like a Belta", "The people who are going to be making article after article and tweet after tweet about how Bond should be black, brown or female are not the same people who go and see Bond every time it comes out. People who treat movies like a cause do it because it feels good and because it furthers their agenda, not because they care about the franchise. Take Ghostbusters 2016 for instance, you'd think it would be profitable seeing as how many people \"rallied\" behind it.", "The dude's Pakistani British. I don't think he's out there writing poetry about life in Germany. If being pedantic helps you, you probably wouldn't enjoy poetry anyway", "Wow! Used to watch jumpoff all the time great find! Riz smashed him in this battle. Remember Stig used to hit hard back then too but he got schooled in this battle. Wonder what happened to him? \n\nProps to Riz doing big things from back in the day", "For real, I must have watched that show like 10 times. It’s just so good", "Every line hit hard. Straight from the heart ❤ and all real talk.", "Ditto, parents immigrated in, we were always taught we were first gen being born here. Didn't know that there was controversy over it till maybe 10ish years ago", "I understand your point, but just checking the first one on your list there's even a Wikipedia category for its colonies.\n \nhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Former_Austrian_colonies\n\nI guess you could say it was less successful at colonisation", "He doesn't even turn round in this video. Where did you see it?", "Love him mostly but this sucks", "Gotcha, that makes sense.", "Couldn't find it on his wiki. Could you link me?", "Is this the dude from Nightcrawler lol", "Fwiw I'm German, my parents are from India. What Riz is expressing here definitely resonated with me as well. This person is just being annoying by being so pedantic and nitpicky about what is clearly an artistic and creative piece of work.", "Anyone watch something and think I'm going to watch this actor in EVERYTHING he's in? This was when I saw this for the first time", "What does the last line mean / is it referring to? \n\n\"I bend words like Brown and West until they spell What!\"", "Flames", "Fuck Mini Babybel!", "Oh no figured me out! I am sooo an oblivious, ignorant person! I thought I just had an opinion that differed to yours! How stupid I feel! /s \nActually I grew up in bum fuck Maine and moved to a big city in CT almost 10 years ago by myself away from all my family and friends. But please go on making assumptions about me because I’m a white person and have a different opinion than you. \nMaybe next time someone asks you where you’re from stop making assumptions about them being bigots and racists when I’m reality you’re probably just miss reading them.", "The real answer is just a phenomenal fucking actor. \n\nWhich Riz fits. So he should be considered. Representation matters but let’s not pretend he’s not fucking great at acting, is strong and good looking, and generally would fit the role.", "Yes. I am being sarcastic.", "the follow up \"no, but where are you really from?\" annoys the fuck out of me now. If I give you an answer, accept it and shut the fuck up please.", "That list is 2 villages in India and a town in China that it possessed for 12 years between 1901 and 1917.", "Academic source?", "Academic journal, research institute paper, etc.", "Yes, I'm asking for the ones supporting your claims.", "Big nod to the recently departed Michael Kenneth Williams whom also crushed it.", "Yeah, so bad at colonisation but not 'no colonies'", "Ah, It’s a sad world that I couldn’t immediately pick up on that.", "Thank you for being rational, and recognizing the question for what is certainly is the majority of the time. It's not like white people don't ask eachother the same question, and usually they can't give one concise answer like first/second generation migrants can. \n\neg\n\n>Where are you from?\n>\n>My family is from India, how about you?\n>\n>Oh, I'm a fucking mutt. x% this on my mom's side, y% that on my dad's... [Ad nauseam]\n\nEdit: this reminded me of a line in Blazing Saddles; \"...Well to tell a family secret, my grandmother was Dutch.\"", ">what it's like to be discriminated against.\n\nI have, I've been protested and demonstrated against\n\nPicket signs for my wicked rhymes, look at the times\n\nSick is the mind of the motherfuckin' kid that's behind\n\nAll this commotion, emotions run deep as oceans explodin'\n\nTempers flarin' from parents, just blow 'em off and keep goin'", ">The British worried in 1776-1783 and in 1899-1902 and in 1947 about the loss of their various bits of empire. But is the average British person worse off now than when Britain ruled the waves? By no means. British income per head boomed after losing colonies in 1783 and 1947, and stagnated in 1902-1914 after expensively keeping the Boer Republics in the Empire. Nowadays, after the tragic loss of maps painted red, British real national income per capita is higher than ever, and is among the very highest in the world— in 2007 a little bit above, adjusted to purchasing power parity, that of France, Germany, Italy; though a good deal below its former and terribly exploited colonies Hong Kong, Singapore, Ireland, and the United States. Did the acquisition of Empire, then, cause spurts in British growth? By no means. Indeed, as I said, at the climax of imperial pretension, in the 1890s and 1900s, holding sway to the east and west of Suez, the growth of British real income per head notably slowed.\n\nhttps://mpra.ub.uni-muenchen.de/20696/1/MPRA_paper_20696.pdf\n\nThat is a direct claim about imperialism and colonies.\n\nAs a corollary, sometimes these claims are wrapped up with claims about slavery as well - as both were exploitative practices. However, for context and a yardstick to measure against, we can see at the height of the triangular slave trade that it contributed only to 3% of total capital formation in 1770.\n\nhttps://cpb-us-e1.wpmucdn.com/sites.northwestern.edu/dist/3/1222/files/2016/06/Editors-Introduction-The-New-Economic-History-1999-1thoner.pdf\n\nIt is widely recognised that institutions, such as equality before the law or respect for property rights are by far the most important drivers in growth and wealth (source below). It may have made sense to ascribe to colonialism or slavery the wealth of developed countries in 1945 (when it was limited to the West and Japan), but how can one now ascribe it to those factors when a number of countries who were subjected to foreign control have now achieved incomes comparable to the West (Taiwan, South Korea etc.) \n\nhttps://economics.mit.edu/files/4469", "] In 2013, Ahmed provided journalist Hardeep Singh with a formal apology for a tweet he had published in which he called Singh a \"bigot\" and falsely accused him of attempted assault. Ahmed also agreed to pay him substantial damages for libel and his legal costs.[81][82]", "Thanks", "Nothing about the roles I've seen him in screams Bond to me. Not seen all his films though. \n\nWhat has he done that makes you think he'd play a good womanizing spy? \n\nHe looks a bit scrawny, imo. \n\nAnd, of course, I just can't be bothered with the endless articles and virtue signalling over his race. \n\nPersonally, I think Bond going back to the 60's or 70's in regards to time period, and having someone like Henry Cavill play him, would be a great direction for the series. \n\nCavills role in 'A Man Called UNCLE' was basically a Bond audition. \n\nTom Hiddleston proved he can do a suave spy well in 'The Night Manager', although he's getting on a bit now so might be too old. He also suffers from being a bit on the scrawny side, but some hollywood doctors might be able to sort him out. \n\nThose would be my top two picks, personally.", "As I say - this is not a defence of colonialism - it has very detrimental impacts on the present-day economic situation in a number of countries (through entrenching poor institutions, as mentioned in my original comment, source below), but the evidence for it having contributed in a significant fashion to European growth is negligible. \n\nhttps://economics.mit.edu/files/4123 \n\nRather the direction of causality was the other way around. Historical estimates of national income (source below) already put Italian city states at higher levels of income compared to rest of world comparators before the Age of Discovery. Thus, Europeans acquired colonies because they were wealthy, rather than became wealthy off colonies.\n\nhttps://www.rug.nl/ggdc/historicaldevelopment/maddison/?lang=en", "Deleted.", "He also said he's Scottish-Swiss. \n\nCan't imagine two more white nations, frankly. They're both about 95% white, from a quick google. \n\nNow, I'm not saying it's impossible for a Scottish-Pakistani and a Swiss-Pakistani to bump uglies and pop out a 007. \n\nBut it seems unlikely, doesn't it? \n\nJust make a new series, with new characters. Don't fuck up an existing one with this culture war bullshit. Bond doesn't need to become a political battlefield, but it will if the character is seen to be needlessly fucked with just to push an agenda.", "It's a poem not a history book.", "Why does this make it bad?", ">Identity is only skin deep to some\n\nIt seems like you're in a position open people's minds. The only travesty here is that it's not your burden to bear as an individual. Oh well, life isn't fair, is it?", "I think I actually went in the other direction. I don't really feel any kind of attachment to my \"British-ness\". I'm not patriotic or proud of my country, I'm really apathetic to the whole thing. A lot of what I experienced in the UK, I experienced before I left the isle, as a teenager. I definitely have moments where I think \"man, if only I had said something back to them\", but I was a kid talking to adults (mostly teachers). As much as I wish I had dressed them down, I appreciate that I was a kid, and lacked the autonomy or even the confidence in my own identity to respond in a way that I would be happy with, now, in my adulthood. It just adds to your point that it really isn't fair", "Because the implication is that you can be a real Briton so long as you're white, even if your mum is from Poland and your dad is from Italy.\n\nBut if you're any sort of brown you're never really British, even if your family has been here for centuries.", "The Sound of Metal is just spectacular and his performance was amazing.", "\"Where are you from?\"\n\n\"Minnesota.\"\n\n\"No, no but where are you FROM?\"\n-Cashier at Dunkin Donuts wanting to speak Urdu with me", "you say mistaken but it's a bit up in the air in the show no?", "> music\n\nI'm sorry, music?", "Idris Elba would be my first choice for the next Bond.", "Dicknanigans!", "He's 50 years old, and black.\n\nCould not be less suitable. By film 3 we'd have an almost 60 year old Bond lmao.\n\nRetirement Home Royale.", "\"I'm normal! I'm a... normalite.\"", "His age is the only problem. He would’ve made an excellent Bond.\n\nHe’s 4 years younger than Daniel Craig. If they could’ve cast him 5 or so years ago he would’ve been perfect!", "Grime MC been about forever. Then his friend had a YouTube channel and would record Narstie just talking shit and he was naturally funny nothing scripted. Which let to a bit on that channel called uncle pain where he would be an agony aunt to random people but was off the cuff.\n\nI think after this he got a bit more recognition and was on some panel shows where again he didn't really care too much just being himself. Led to more opportunities.\n\nObviously a lot more too it but he's not someone who has been manufactured. From what I've read people either love him or hate him.", "look on the bright side. while the united states isn't perfect, 21st century america is the best and most welcoming place in the world for any immigrant, let alone educated desis. \n\nif curious people querying you and me where we are \"really from\" is the worse we encounter, then we should take a moment to reflect on our good fortune that we were born to desi parents in these magnificent united states. \n\nit could have been worse, our parents could have emigrated to a genuinely xenophobic country like saudi arabia or japan or south korea , or a relatively tolerant germany, where non germans are unwelcome into corporate boardrooms (see anshu jain at duetsche bank) and elite academia. \n\n&#x200B;\n\nfact: since the beginning of recorded history, no country has been more welcoming to immigrants than america. \n\n&#x200B;\n\np.s. in my thirty plus experience of living in new york city, americans and immigrants of all colors and backgrounds ask the question: where are you really from. even south asians.", ">\tHe looks a bit scrawny, imo.\n\nYou act like actors can’t put on a bit of muscle. Hell your boy Cavill was skinny before Superman. Ahmed in The Sound of Metal was plenty cut, and he’s Oscar nominated as an actor. \n\nYou sound blinded by your affinity for a White actor.", "People are so fucking sensitive about heritage. I would bet 1 million fucking percent if I lived in Japan, Pakistan, India or some other nation where the natural skin color is very different than my pale-ass, you’d bet I’d be asked frequently about my heritage. And my children, and my children’s children too. But who cares. It’s cool. We’re different and I’m glad you noticed that we’re a little different. It doesn’t make me any less of a person. \n\nThe people who all this annoyance and vitriol should be targeted at are the people that DONT ask. The people that stare and whisper under their breathe about you. \n\nAsking “where are you from” is so fucking common even among American white people now that ancestry and heritage has become a pretty big hobby.", "What's Chamath doing up there", "Sean Connery is literally the ONLY Scottish actor to play bond. The rest are English, Welsh, and an Australian. Riz was born in the same place as Roger Moore. It doesn’t matter what they look like. Get over yourself. Bond doesn’t need to be white.", "White Canadians ask this question too fucking much. Next time I get asked this, I'll offer to leave a sample of DNA with their mom.", "Earth. 🌍 \n\n\nOne species, one tribe, one family of Man. \n\n\n✌🤓", "shrug\n\nI'm white as snow but when someone asks me where my family from I tell them about eastern europe. Yeah I'm sure it's annoying for the question to be phrased \"where are you really from\" as though you couldn't possibly be a brown dude from a western country, but if it were more tactfully phrased as a question about familial ethnicity I think it's completely fair and respectful.", "Sound of Metal was an outstanding movie.", "What a fantastic miniseries. A lot of people were disappointed of the ending and that there wasn’t the resolution everyone was expecting. As someone who also watched it you know what I’m referring to. \n\nBut they missed they point of the series, it’s a show that details the failure of the judicial system for a normal citizen and shows its effects. Fascinating stuff, I was pretty much hooked from episode one", "Or …. Where are your folk from ?", "as a white american dude who used to ask that, with no ill intent, always out of curiosity, im going to refactor my thoughts before asking that question again. very illuminating", "I get this all the time since moving to Europe. \n\n\nYes, I really am American. Yes, we come in brown.\n\nI don't know why it's such a hard concept for people to wrap their heads around.", "hey, fuck you, shoresy!", "I think he says ‘blend’ - so Br(o)wn + (W)es(t) = Wot/ What … though that’s just what I figured, so could be wrong.", "It's actually really easy, you know what they're asking. Say \"I was born in London but my parents/grandparents are from X and Y\".", "That's a lot of correlation treated as causation. Colour me shocked that income increased since the start of the 20th century...", "Holy shit this should be in r/cringe", "Somewhat. It's just as easy to say that the west got the jump on the rest of the world in terms of technological advancement, and the wealth, including that brought by imperialism, was a consequence of the technological gap.", "Sounds about right", "The only times I can see myself wanting to ask this question is when someone is an African immigrant (since there are so many countries in Africa, and to my untrained ear the accents are all the same), or when I can tell someone emigrated from South America, but don't know which specific country.\n\nI'm not considering ethnicity/nationality as a core part of people's identity or value (even if they do, or want others to), and I don't see them as an outsider who isn't really a member of the group.\n\nBut, being a core weakness in human nature, a lot of people do subconsciously view you as an \"other\" for not being [insert population's majority ethnicity]. \n\nSo it has become embedded in the subtext of the question \"Where are you from?\" to the point where the lines between racial stereotyping and innocent curiosity have been blurred.", "Why would someone from Poland be offended by people asking him where he's from when they ask because of his noticeable foreign accent that he has because he's actually from Poland? \n \nThe reason people are bothered by these kinds of questions is because they aren't from another country, but people still assume that they are just because their ethnicity doesn't match that of the country's majority. It's not just a white/non-white thing either, if you're white person born and raised in Japan, you'll get those same questions. And I'd get a bit frustrated too if I was getting daily reminders that people see me as an outsider in my own country.", "> The Night Of' - a miniseries about a man (Riz) mistaken for murdering someone, and the ensuing crime and drama during the lead up to the trial.\n\nWell the whole show is about whether he did it or not.... I don't wanna say your comment is a spoiler but... uh... I mean I really like that show and I would delete your comment if I were you.", "Mogul Mowgli is pretty good", "as a person asking this, the reply \"oh, my parents were born here too\" was always perfectly valid.", "Amazing first few episodes. Writing quality really went down hill like a lot of recent HBO stuff", "Fun fact: John Turturro’s character was supposed to be played by James Gandolfini but he passed before filming began, so they got Turturro instead. He crushed it, but it’s interesting to watch it and imagine what Gandolfini would be like in the role.", "Your answer is a justification for literally never rocking the boat, and I couldn't disagree more. I think we should rock boats as a general rule, even if you move away from \"peak culture war bullshit\" as you put it, the status quo is almost inherently boring, change for change sake is a perfectly reasonable take in order to try and be more interesting.", "You're conflating a marketing campaign for a movie in Ghostbusters 2016 with a potential change to possibly expand a narrative or have a new and interesting view of a character.", ">actor\n\nCharacter.", "Are we going to rock the boat for Shaq? Will Shaq become a white detective? \n\nWhat about Blade? Will we get a white remake of Blade, I wonder? \n\nFor the next Matrix movie, can we make Morpheus white? \n\nHow about Bad Boys? Could be Bad White Boys instead, I think it'd be good. \n\nSlumdog millionaire? I mean, imagine it with a white actor instead 😍\n\nOr Life of Pi. Loved that movie, properly great. One thing missing though, a white guy as the main character! \n\nSee, it's all very one fucking way, isn't it? None of that would ever happen in a million years, and yet so many people seem to think it's fine to do the reverse. \n\nThere will be backlash (as I am showing here), and it will cause a lot of hate, and it will all have been utterly fucking pointless like most projects the left decide to link themselves to and fail miserably at. \n\nYou guys never know when you pick your battles, nor what battles are actually worth the time and effort.\n\nThere was controversy when Bond became Blonde, from Bond fans.. You think the backlash won't be 100 times worse if they're changing his background?\n\nThis is peak culture war bullshit you're embarking on, and after having taken so many fucking L's recently, you think you lot would back off a bit.", "Did I missed something? Pretty sure he didn't killed her.", "'Tea aint from Britain, Its from where my DNA is at' oh right, he's Chinese.", ">~~artistic license?~~ making stuff up", "Was he in the british comedy film about the terrorist group?", "None of the roles or projects you just listed are anthologies played by various actors, and no I dont think there is wrong in changing those actors if it could be narratively interesting in a remake. However your point is only about race and its pretty pathetic, as is your \"Bond fans\" appeal.", "It depends on the perspective. \n\nPeople who ask it don't implicate anything of the sort. It's just an obvious thing to ask from a stranger that you are trying to talk to. It's just never having been in that position there is no way for you to know what the question implicates to the other side.\n\nThe people who actually are implicating that a race shouldn't be in a place aren't the people trying to small talk to you.", "its been a while since I saw it but if I remember correctly the ending was a bit ambigious - i mean he got aquitted but we never found out what really happened", ">and no I dont think there is wrong in changing those actors if it could be narratively interesting in a remake.\n\nIt'd be pants. A white Shaq? Come on now..", "I think you mean white people in America. Outside of America if you are white nobody really asks or cares if you are x part whatever.", "Yeah I thought about that but if that's it then what's the reference or meaning to it? Why did he chose the words brown and west? What does it mean when it says 'what!' ? \n\nIt's the final line so I'd expect there to be meaning behind it", "Lel, fucking Brother Omar.", "What about if his parents are from Britain? What about if his grandparents are. If you want to know someone's heritage just ask them don't make them jump through hoops or insinuate that they didn't undertand your question.", "so who killed the girl then?", "I'm going to go out on a limb and assume that the majority of the r/videos userbase are not overly concerned with the litterary quality on show here and are more praising the message.", "Message is kind of dumb you know? \n\nMost people like talking about themselves. I like talking about where I’m from and my heritage, so I’d advise people still to ask away.", "Yess. I’m 3rd generation Polish in UK. I am white and grew up abroad till I was 6. I was referred to as ‘the foreigner’ for about a year and then lost my accent. Like magic the othering and weird comments and questions disappeared. Not for my poc friends though! People can be idiots", "Tell him whether he asks his own children born there the same question", "The number of people that just don't get it is literally problematic. \n\nThis is shit every brown person grew up with yet it's _still_ happening", "Well, well, now….that wouldn’t stop you from showing me up to the rest of the thread, would it? You absolutely would show it just to validate your insane claims. But I know the truth, it does set you free. You’re not going to post it because you have no proof. You’re a sad little man and the thing about it is, no one even gives a shit about your fake outrage with your fake claims of getting reported to Reddit cares, whatever the fuck that is. There’s nothing about you that I would bother to report, but you definitely kept me entertained with your absolute batshit craziness.", "It's funny how people always think gender or race swaps will somehow make things more interesting.", "What the fuck are you talking about?", "So many people saying they wouldn't be offended like it invalidates anything", "Referring to a 6 year old as \"the foreigner\" is pathetic. Ostracisizing a child before they can even comprehend that they're different", "Then id ask what his heritage is. Or id ask him something else. Those \"hoops\" that im making someone jump through is called conversation btw. I find majority of the time people love to talk about their family heritage, its a pretty common thing. Most people arent angsty british dudes so when you ask them a simple question like \"where are you from\" theyll say something like \"im from NY, but my family is from Greece\". Then you get to have this thing called a conversation. Its pretty neat, try it sometime", "> What has he done that makes you think he'd play a good womanizing spy?\n\nWell as you can see in this video he has a way with words, for one. \n\n> He looks a bit scrawny, imo.\n\nI simply disagree, this is how someone in shape looks like that's not trying to be huge, but if the director wants that he can always work out more, Kumail Nanjiani comes to mind.\n\n> And, of course, I just can't be bothered with the endless articles and virtue signalling over his race.\n\nIrrelevant to him being a good bond or not.", "the accountant guy - he was in a photo with the victim. detective box is tailing him at the end of the show", "hah fair enough I completly missed that", "You're missing the pount though\n\n>Where are you from?\n\n&#x200B;\n\n>London!\n\n&#x200B;\n\n>No, where are you really from?\n\nI agree that this is still technically conversation but you see the issue. You are saying you could follow up with \"Where are your parent from\", what if the response is also \"London\"?", "I obviously can't speak for everyone, but might I add my two cents?\n\nMy mother is from a different country than the country I was born and live in. Most people don't notice. However when somebody does notice or hears me speak my mothers native language, they ask me where I'm from/what other roots I have/where my parents are from/why I know this language, etc..\n\nI only have a passport for the country I live in and I very much identify as a native of that country. However I take zero offense in such lines of questioning, and actually enjoy talking about my heritage or explaining to them how my father met my mother over seas etc. I would only take offense if they would act differently (as in badly) towards me after learning about my mothers origins. Granted, my mother isn't from any historically oppressed race or country, which is why I obviously can't speak for everyone and why I get how it could be a touchy subject for some.\n\nNow, \"where are you REALLY from\" is a bit of an aggressive or suggestive line of questioning, but it doesn't have to be with malicious intent. I just don't see how it benefits anyone judging someone by the way they are asking something rather than the motive behind the question. I usually reply \"I was born and raised here, so I'm from here, however my mother is from such and such...\". With that I have answered the question and maybe opened myself up to a pleasant conversation about myself, maybe the person asking is of mixed descent as well and would like to converse about himself.\n\nObviously if the person is asking with ill intent and or reacts in a racist or bad manner, then he can go fuck himself. I have just never experienced someone asking me for such a shitty reason, so why get immediately offended and \"eye fuck\" them, instead of hearing them out?", "> Depends entirely on how offense the person wants to take at the end of the day.\n\nI obviously can't speak for everyone, but might I add my two cents?\n\nMy mother is from a different country than the country I was born and live in. Most people don't notice. However when somebody does notice or hears me speak my mothers native language, they ask me where I'm from/what other roots I have/where my parents are from.\n\nI only have a passport for the country I live in and I very much identify as a native of that country. However I take zero offense in such lines of questioning, and actually enjoy talking about my heritage or explaining to them how my father met my mother over seas etc. I would only take offense if they would act differently (as in badly) towards me after learning about my mothers origins. Granted, my mother isn't from any historically oppressed race or country, which is why I obviously can't speak for everyone and why I get how it could be a touchy subject for some.\n\nNow, \"where are you REALLY from\" is a bit of an aggressive or suggestive line of questioning, but it doesn't have to be with malicious intent. I just don't see how it benefits anyone judging someone by the way they are asking something rather than the motive behind the question. I usually reply \"I was born and raised here, so I'm from here, however my mother is from such and such...\". With that I have answered the question and maybe opened myself up to a pleasant conversation about myself, maybe the person asking is of mixed descent as well and would like to converse about himself.\n\nObviously if the person is asking with ill intent and or reacts in a racist or bad manner, then he can go fuck himself. I have just never experienced someone asking me for such a shitty reason, so why get immediately offended and \"eye fuck\" them, instead of hearing them out?", "If people want to know ethnicity, why don't they ask about ethnicity? And why don't they do that when \"where are you from?\" doesn't get them the answer they're looking for.\n\nThe reality is that these people know it makes the sound rude and is inappropriate to ask about ethnicity, which is why they don't ask it directly. The only people they're fooling when asking \"where are you from?\" are themselves.", "It's an obvious thing to ask? I assume that when you talk to strangers you get asked this obvious question a lot, then?", "Fact: a number of other countries have higher proportions of foreign-born individuals than the USA does.", "Pakistan did not build the west. The west pioneered modern technological advances and trade first. Pakistan is also massively more racist than Britian (isn't this common knowledge). Pakistan also happens be much worse at [pollution](https://www.numbeo.com/pollution/compare_countries_result.jsp?country1=Pakistan&country2=United+Kingdom). So who's \"making the sun too hot\"? Apparantly it's imperialist or something to support the allies in world wars as well? You can't make this shit up.\n\nGiven he has a few BAFTAs, emmys and golden globes under his belt it sounds like he's done quite well living in the two supposedly most racist and imperial countries on Earth.\n\nFunny that.", "Yikes. Considering he never said Pakistan built the west, seems like typing this was a waste of your time", ">The west as we know it doesn't exist without the exploitation of the resources and peoples of Africa, Asia and North America.\n\nYep and that exploitation was called trade and investment. If there had been no trade nothing would have happened. Those \"exploited peoples\" would be sitting in the dirt longer without any of the new innovations brought in by the west. Good luck putting silk to good use without rich people to wear it.\n\nGood luck putting raw resources to good use when you don't have fucking rail-roads or technology.", "\"my people built the west\" is the exact quote from the video. Yikes yourself.", "> It's an obvious thing to ask? \n\nYes it's something you see with your eyes... Something that is immediately interesting... You are attaching your own feelings to it and being offended.", "So you get asked it all the time, since it's obvious?\n\nIf your saying that race is something that you see with your eyes, then I agree. Does that mean that racism is ok? If I observed that you are suggesting we treat people differently based on their race, does that offend you?", "Canada, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, basically most of the Anglosphere.", "The fact that you think Pakistanis from Pakistan are his people shows you're part of the problem. He's British Pakistani. Our people were the cheap labour force of the 50s that helped the post war economic boom. Not to mention the colonial regime that built the British empire", "Oh cool, my family is from Greece. Weve been here for a few generations. Wbu?\n\nI mean obv im not dense, if someone doesnt want to talk about it then they dont wana talk about.\nAnd yeah i agreed with the other guy, asking 'where are you really from' is rude.\nMy point was that asking someone about their family background or history is a pretty normal question \nIts Normal conversation especially when you live in a vastly diverse city like london or NYC. If someone asks me where im from, i say \"i was born in NY but my family came from Greece\". Because obv thats what they meant. Im not going to answer literally like a dickhead and say im from NY with no other information.", "British Pakistanis did not build the west either. What influence have British pakistanis had in the USA or Europe? Minimal compared to Pakistanis... so I have no idea about \"who he identifies with\". It seems whatev\n\nObviously that's not going to stop people like you pulling the race card tho.\n\nHe literally says \"I was born under a sun you made too hot for us\". Is Wembly suffering from a drought? Who does \"us\" refer to.\n\nThe blatant conciet is that despite him being a 40 year old man born in the UK enjoying huge successes he still feels like his ethnicity gives him a pass to rap about how white people are cunts.\n\nApparantly when this western artist shits on the west he's spent 40 years living in he is excluding himself from it. If he wants to talk about people being exclusionary maybe he should look in the mirror.\n\nIt's not solving anything. It's just more racebait and blaming people for the sins of the father.", "\"I'm an award winning rich 40 year old British artist who was born in North London\"\n\n\"WhY iS ThE WeSt ExPloITiNg mY PeOpLE\"\n\nOk buddy.", "I really can't be arsed replying to this. \n\nHere's academic proof showing how Pakistani immigrants were one of the main factors behind the UK's post war economic boom (https://www.economicshelp.org/blog/11697/debt/post-war-boom/)\n\nHere's academic proof that migrants were the backbone of the restoration European economy (https://publications.jrc.ec.europa.eu/repository/bitstream/JRC109783/kjna29060enn.pdf)\n\n50% of the economy of the entire British Empire was due to the British Raj and occupied India (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_the_British_Empire)\n\nI could keep going but it seems pointless. I doubt you'd be interested in the strife of the brown man in a white-majority country. Nobody's blaming you, personally. Enjoy your week, champ", "West as in Western civilisation/ culture / where he grew up, brown as in his ethinicity. Merging together to form what? \n\nEither a question like he isn't sure, or a statement, where he is asking audience/ viewer, who would put their own worldview on it. What am I.", "What if I told you that he is neither Cambodian nor does he speak in a French accent", "I'll say I'm one of the disappointed. I felt like I had to take a shower and walk outside after it. Sort of the same feelings watching black mirror. I never get that good feeling back. But I understand that the show wasn't produced by Disney/Pixar and life isn't all sunshine and rainbows", "Edited the comment. Is that vague enough?\nIf so you might want to remove your quote of the spoiler !", "My tip is to be curious about the culture and heritage of only your friends. Not strangers, or people you've met just recently.", "Maybe it's because there is nothing to gain from engaging with someone so obviously mentally ill?", ">What would you call yourself? Stalking me all over Reddit\n\nYou've followed multiple people to different threads today, I'm not sure why you're so bothered when it happens to you", "It's interesting that you have a problem with \"dishonest people\" yet operate a Reddit account where you constantly claim to be a person you are not. I hope you get the help you need so that you can begin the process of rebuilding your clearly very damaged self-image.", "Okay so like, there would have been less gold in the queen's palace without the colonies, absolutely insane to say the west wouldn't exist without colonization.", "lol my reasoning is that you can't even keep the details straight and you modify your \"life\" to suit whatever position you are trying to take", "Like I said, you’re not going to come up with anything because you made up some bullshit for god knows what was going through your mind and you got nothing to back it up. It’s really not hard to get a screenshot. Let’s see me reporting you to ‘Reddit cares’.", "That's a good way to deflect getting caught in a lie. Who cares what I think of your proof? If I had any, I'd still shove it in your face for the fun of it, but if I got caught lying about something so stupid, I'd probably do this little dance you're doing.", "I really don't have any interest in a prolonged debate with troll who has zero credibility about his fake internet identity. It's a waste of my time and frankly it's a waste of yours too.", "I think this has run its course then. You came off looking stellar. Best of luck to you.", "> Does that mean that racism is ok?\n\nIt has nothing to do with racism, silly conclusion on your part. It's just a mechanism of trying to have small talk and then talking of the first thing that comes to mind.\n\n> If I observed that you are suggesting we treat people differently based on their race, does that offend you?\n\nI'm not suggesting anything so you are just wrong with that line of thinking. I'm telling you why it is.\n\nYou are very set in your pespective and you are unable to assume the role of another.", ">> If your saying that race is something that you see with your eyes, then I agree. Does that mean that racism is ok?\n\n>It has nothing to do with racism, silly conclusion on your part.\n\nIt's not a conclusion on my part: it's the simple application of what you said. Since race is something you can see with your eyes, it's apparently ok to treat people differently on the basis of that. That was your argument.\n\n>It's just a mechanism of trying to have small talk and then talking of the first thing that comes to mind.\n\nOh, OK. like if someone has a harelip or big tits, of course I should make small talk about that.\n\nOr maybe we can make small talk about something that isn't considered offensive.\n\n>>If I observed that you are suggesting we treat people differently based on their race, does that offend you?\n\n>I'm not suggesting anything so you are just wrong with that line of thinking. I'm telling you why it is.\n\nYes, you are suggesting that white people don't get asked this question, but that at the same time it is appropriate to ask it of people of different races. That's explicitly treating people differently on the basis of race.\n\n>You are very set in your pespective and you are unable to assume the role of another.\n\nSeems to me that you're the one unable to assume the perspective of the many poc in this thread who are explicitly telling you why this question is problematic.", "> It's not a conclusion on my part: it's the simple application of what you said. Since race is something you can see with your eyes, it's apparently ok to treat people differently on the basis of that. That was your argument.\n\nThat is just silly. \n\n> Oh, OK. like if someone has a hairlip or big tits, of course I should make small talk about that.\n\nSo as I've already tried to explain and you refuse to look at anything through other's eyes. You can only look at your own perspective. Normal people don't think of skin color as a defect as you seem to. A distinct skin color is just that, something that stands out. Would a nigerian be racist if they asked a white person where they are from? It's just an obvious thing to ask.\n\n> Or maybe we can make small talk about something that isn't considered offensive.\n\nAnother person can't divine what is offensive or isn't to another. For a white person in a first world country asking someone where they are from meaning their ethnicity isn't something they conceive of as offensive.\n\n> Yes, you are suggesting that we don't ask this question of other white people, but we do ask it of people of different races. That's explicitly treating people differently on the basis of race.\n\nNot really. White people ask each other where they are from as a normal small talk question as well... And even if that was the case that it didn't happen and only distinct skin colors got asked it that wouldn't exactly be racist. Racism isn't trying to make small talk... Racism would be suggesting to go back to somewhere. It's like saying you are professionist if you ask a doctor about their profession... Probably tired of talking about it but it's not an inherently offensive question. Or if you don't speak the language you get asked where are you from. Is that nationalistic? Obviously not.\n\n> Seems to me that you're the one unable to assume the perspective of the many poc in this thread who are explicitly telling you why this question is problematic.\n\nNo I have and I understand it. It's you who is unable to see the other side. You can only speak of your own perspective.", "> That is just silly.\n\nI agree that your argument is silly. Just because you can tell race (and other things) with your eyes doesn't make it an appropriate topic of discussion or a reason to treat people different.\n\n>>Oh, OK. like if someone has a hairlip or big tits, of course I should make small talk about that.\n\n>So as I've already tried to explain and you refuse to look at anything through other's eyes. You can only look at your own perspective. Normal people don't think of skin color as a defect as you seem to. A distinct skin color is just that, something that stands out. Would a nigerian be racist if they asked a white person where they are from? It's just an obvious thing to ask.\n\nAsking someone with big tits their cup size also seems obvious. As does asking fat people how much they weigh.\n\nOn the other hand, asking someone who speaks with a perfect midwestern accent and brown skin where they are from does not seem an obvious question. Their accent, dress, hairstyle, etc. all identify them as being from the USA, just like most every other white dude in the midwest.\n\n>>Or maybe we can make small talk about something that isn't considered offensive.\n\n>Another person can't divine what is offensive or isn't to another. For a white person in a first world country asking someone where they are from meaning their ethnicity isn't something they conceive of as offensive.\n\nActually we can tell what is offensive pretty easily. Asking a fat person their weight is an example of this. \n\nIf people actually thought it was appropriate to ask people their ethnicity, they would ask directly. And if they didn't get the answer they wanted, they wouldn't follow up with \"But where are you really from?\" Instead, they would simply and directly ask ethnicity. But they don't, and they don't because the understand it's inappropriate. In fact, forcing people to directly ask usually shames them into withdrawing their question.\n\n>White people ask each other where they are from as a normal small talk question as well... \n\nReally? I've never heard \"But where are you really from?\" Directed to a white person when they say they're from Chicago or wherever.\n\n>And even if that was the case that it didn't happen and only distinct skin colors got asked it that wouldn't exactly be racist. Racism isn't trying to make small talk... Racism would be suggesting to go back to somewhere. It's like saying you are professionist if you ask a doctor about their profession... Probably tired of talking about it but it's not an inherently offensive question. \n\nI'm sorry, but you have a very weird understanding of what racism is (and also note that I was talking about treating people differently on the basis of race, which doesn't require something be inherently offensive, which is something you feel must be present in order for something to be racist).\n\nYou don't think that things like classism and elitism come into play in terms of how we treat doctors? Doctors may not be offended by the higher social status they receive, but the lack of offense doesn't mean there isn't a form of discrimination or differential treatment happening.\n\n>Or if you don't speak the language you get asked where are you from. Is that nationalistic? Obviously not.\n\nIt often is, yes. People are often discriminated against for speaking a different language in public.\n\n>No I have and I understand it. It's you who is unable to see the other side. You can only speak of your own perspective.\n\nNo, I can understand the arguments. But understanding them doesn't make them any more valid than me understanding how racists think, for example. And while you're unwilling to take the approach that we shouldn't act in ways that are offensive to other people, I'm unwilling to make excuses for those who want to be as offensive as they please.", "> I agree that your argument is silly. Just because you can tell race (and other things) with your eyes doesn't make it an appropriate topic of discussion or a reason to treat people different.\n\nSorry it's not it's just the rational persepective. \n\n> Asking someone with big tits their cup size also seems obvious. As does asking fat people how much they weigh.\n\nWhat you are missing here again is the other perspective. You are again only thinking of yourself. Yes those topics are pretty widely understood to not be good topics by most people. Asking someone of a distinct skin color however isn't taken the same as something that might offend someone. And it's completely dependant on the person if they take offense or not. Again only thinking of yourself.\n\n> On the other hand, asking someone who speaks with a perfect midwestern accent and brown skin where they are from does not seem an obvious question. Their accent, dress, hairstyle, etc. all identify them as being from the USA, just like most every other white dude in the midwest.\n\nThe person asking might be asking what town they are from. So who's racist now 😂\n\n> If people actually thought it was appropriate to ask people their ethnicity, they would ask directly.\n\nWrong. Asking about ethnicity isn't normal. Asking where someone is from is.\n\n> In fact, forcing people to directly ask usually shames them into withdrawing their question.\n\nYes which doesn't prove anything about the question itself. You'll get the same reaction to any question just by your facial expression. Nothing to do with content.\n\n> Really? I've never heard \"But where are you really from?\" Directed to a white person when they say they're from Chicago or wherever.\n\nI mean sure it's not a good way to continue the conversation. Doesn't mean it's racist though. \n\nAnd the reason you wouldn't ask someone in the majority of the country is because it's probably fairly uninteresting. Again nothing to do with racism.\n\n> I'm sorry, but you have a very weird understanding of what racism is (and also note that I was talking about treating people differently on the basis of race, which doesn't require something be inherently offensive, which is something you feel must be present in order for something to be racist).\n\nYes there is a distinction of what is sensible. And it's not sensible what you are describing.\n\n> You don't think that things like classism and elitism come into play in terms of how we treat doctors? Doctors may not be offended by the higher social status they receive, but the lack of offense doesn't mean there isn't a form of discrimination or differential treatment happening.\n\n😂. Right what I said a doctor might be tired of answering questions about his profession. It's not professionism or classism. It was an example of context of offense that you completely missed.\n\n> It often is, yes. People are often discriminated against for speaking a different language in public.\n\nIt's not you are now crossing into some very dumb arguments here. Asking someone speaking another language where they are from is normal conversation. Not nationalism... Holy shit 😂\n\n> No, I can understand the arguments.\n\nBut you don't. You are constantly speaking of only your own persepctive. You still don't understand that to one person it's a normal question that they have no way of knowing it can be offensive to someone. And by itself it's not. It's offensive because it gets constantly asked and because of a personal conflict of belonging. Again knowing that is offensive would be divining all this complexity of understanding what it's like for a racial minority, which isn't inherent information.", ">> Asking someone with big tits their cup size also seems obvious. As does asking fat people how much they weigh.\n> \n> What you are missing here again is the other perspective. You are again only thinking of yourself. Yes those topics are pretty widely understood to not be good topics by most people. Asking someone of a distinct skin color however isn't taken the same as something that might offend someone. And it's completely dependant on the person if they take offense or not. \n\nSo if someone is fat, we take their perspective into account before asking about how much they weigh (even though it's dependent on the person as to whether or not they take offense). But when someone is pigmented, we take the perspective of the person asking the question into account when asking where they are from.\n\nYou've given absolutely no rational basis for how you make this differentiation between whose perspective we should take into account, other than \"it's normal.\"\n\nIf it's normal to offend someone, then I guess you have that right?\n\n>>If people actually thought it was appropriate to ask people their ethnicity, they would ask directly.\n\n>Wrong. Asking about ethnicity isn't normal. Asking where someone is from is.\n\nTotally. But again, how many times have you been asked where you are from? And when you answered, how many times have people said \"But where are you really from?\"\n\nAbsolutely nobody here has complained about about people asking what town they're from: everyone is complaining that these questions are really about ethnicity.\n\n>>In fact, forcing people to directly ask usually shames them into withdrawing their question.\n\n>Yes which doesn't prove anything about the question itself. You'll get the same reaction to any question just by your facial expression. Nothing to do with content.\n\nNo idea what this means. What do you think it means when someone isn't satisfied with your answer that you're from Chicago, and instead persists with \"But where are you really from?\"\n\nConversations can go something like this:\n\nWhere are you from?\n\n- Chicago.\n\nBut where are you really from?\n\n- The South Side.\n\nNo, you know what I mean...\n\n- No, what do you mean?\n\nUh, nevermind.\n\n>And the reason you wouldn't ask someone in the majority of the country is because it's probably fairly uninteresting. Again nothing to do with racism.\n\nRight, asking the dude with the exact same accent as you and the exact same style and haircut as you whee he's from is because you're expecting a really exciting answer. Because you don't ask if you expect an uninteresting answer.\n\nBut wait, didn't you just finish telling us that these questions are really all about boring answers, like what specific town you live in? Or do we only care about the towns that pigmented people live in?\n\n>Right what I said a doctor might be tired of answering questions about his profession. It's not professionism or classism. It was an example of context of offense that you completely missed.\n\nRight, and the context you're missing is that people are asking \"where are you from?\" and \"but where are you really from?\" because they actually want to know the ethnicity of the person they're asking, and they're both asking the question (and refusing to accept their answer) because of the skin colour of the person they're asking. \n\n>Yes there is a distinction of what is sensible. And it's not sensible what you are describing.\n\nI don't think treating people differently because of their race is very sensible.\n\n>>It often is, yes. People are often discriminated against for speaking a different language in public.\n\n>It's not you are now crossing into some very dumb arguments here. Asking someone speaking another language where they are from is normal conversation.\n\nIf they ask \"where are you really from?\" after the answer is Chicago, then no this is not normal conversation.\n\n>But you don't. You are constantly speaking of only your own persepctive. You still don't understand that to one person it's a normal question that they have no way of knowing it can be offensive to someone. And by itself it's not.\n\nI can assure you I'm not offended if someone asks me my weight. Those people who are offended should think of the perspective of those who ask questions. I don't have to think of their perspective because it's a normal thing to be curious about, and even though I've never been asked it wouldn't be offensive to me. I'd have to be able to divine what it's like to be fat in order to understand the perspective of fat people, and this isn't inherent information.", "> So if someone is fat, we take their perspective into account before asking about how much they weigh (even though it's dependent on the person as to whether or not they take offense). > But when someone is pigmented, we take the perspective of the person asking the question into account when asking where they are from.\n\nThis fat example isn't working. Normally you learn it as a child. But what we are talking of isn't inherently offensive like being fat. \n\nI could say it's pretty racist of you to relate being a POC to fatness.\n\n> You've given absolutely no rational basis for how you make this differentiation between whose perspective we should take into account, other than \"it's normal.\"\n\nYou are wildly misunderstanding because you can only think of yourself and your perspective. What you are missing is that people asking it wouldn't if they understood it might be offensive. But the problem there is it depends on the person if it is offensive or not. Some people will just answer it and move on. But some people like yourself will get caught up in it. So even with the context of knowing some people don't want it asked it's on a person to person basis. It's not the same as asking someone about being fat.\n\n> If it's normal to offend someone, then I guess you have that right?\n\nWrong on 2 parts. Again it's not inherently offensive to ask someone where they are from. And it's not even offensive to ask it as a white person from a poc. It just depends on the person if they will take offense to it or not. As I already demonstrated with the doctor example. When you are asking someone of their profession it depends on the person if they are tired of the questions or not. The question itself isn't the offense.\n\nAnd yes offending someone is a right.\n\n> No idea what this means. What do you think it means when someone isn't satisfied with your answer that you're from Chicago, and instead persists with \"But where are you really from?\"\n\nI mean sure people aren't prepared to get the answer you are giving so they keep asking to get what they want. Many people aren't great socially. It happens. Not exclusive to this situation. \n\n> I don't think treating people differently because of their race is very sensible.\n\nIt's not treating differently. It's just a misguided question. Again it's not about racism the vast majority of time. You are extending what racism means into insanity.\n\n> If they ask \"where are you really from?\" after the answer is Chicago, then no this is not normal conversation.\n\nWhat they mean again is your ethnicity but asking for ethnicity is a wierd question to ask so it's a default move into another bad follow up question. It's not understood that someone might have reservations answering a question like that because of reasons I already have explained in the last reply.\n\n> I can assure you I'm not offended if someone asks me my weight. \n\nThis doesn't make any sense. Yes people generally learn as a child that you don't call fat people fat or ask them about their weight because it's an obvious problem for them. You need to really drop this fat thing it's not going anywhere.\n\n> I'd have to be able to divine what it's like to be fat in order to understand the perspective of fat people, and this isn't inherent information.\n\nYou'd have to be stupid to not understand why you don't ask someone about their disability as small talk. And you are just using this a bad faith example but it just doesn't work in this context. So it's not as if you actually believe any of this you just said. Doesn't work sorry. It's not a good comparison. Doesn't prove anything.", "> This fat example isn't working. Normally you learn it as a child. But what we are talking of isn't inherently offensive like being fat.\n> \n\n\nWhere I'm from we learn not to treat people differently because of their race as children, too. Yet you're the one saying that people can't possibly be expected to know that treating people differently because of their race is impolite or wrong.\n\n>> I could say it's pretty racist of you to relate being a POC to fatness.\n\nYou could. And it might even make sense if you hadn't earlier said that it's ok to ask people about ethnicity because you can see it with your eyes (just like you can see people are fat with your eyes).\n\n>You are wildly misunderstanding because you can only think of yourself and your perspective. What you are missing is that people asking it wouldn't if they understood it might be offensive.\n\nYou keep ignoring the fact that people know it's offensive, which is why they refuse to clearly and straightforwardly ask what your ethnicity is.\n\nRegardless, the measure of whether or not something is offensive is not the subjective intent of the speaker. My grandmother didn't grow up thinking it was offensive to call the candies known as licorice babies by a very different name. This doesn't make the name she used any less offensive.\n\n>But the problem there is it depends on the person if it is offensive or not. Some people will just answer it and move on. But some people like yourself will get caught up in it.\n\nDon't confuse people answering a question with them not being offended by the question. And also don't confuse some people not being offended (such as me not being offended if you ask my weight) with the question not being offensive to many.\n\n>>If it's normal to offend someone, then I guess you have that right?\n\n>Wrong on 2 parts. Again it's not inherently offensive to ask someone where they are from.\n\nJust like it's not inherently offensive to ask someone how much they weigh. Of course, it is offensive to many people, just like asking where someone is (really) from is offensive to a great many people, as the video that OP linked and a great many comments here indicate. Just because you have never had to empathize with the people to whom it is offensive before doesn't make it inoffensive.\n\n>And it's not even offensive to ask it as a white person from a poc. It just depends on the person if they will take offense to it or not.\n\nYeah, just like it's up to the person if they want to be offended by me asking them how much they weigh.\n\n>As I already demonstrated with the doctor example. When you are asking someone of their profession it depends on the person if they are tired of the questions or not.\n\nI could say it's pretty racist for you to compare being a poc to being a doctor.\n\n>And yes offending someone is a right.\n\nGreat! This is an argument I can actually accept: these people are being offensive, and it's their right to be. \n\n>>No idea what this means. What do you think it means when someone isn't satisfied with your answer that you're from Chicago, and instead persists with \"But where are you really from?\"\n\n>I mean sure people aren't prepared to get the answer you are giving so they keep asking to get what they want. Many people aren't great socially. It happens. Not exclusive to this situation\n\nThey keep asking to get what they want? You've just told me that they want to know what town I live in, and aren't actually asking about ethnicity.\n\n>>I don't think treating people differently because of their race is very sensible.\n\n>It's not treating differently. It's just a misguided question. Again it's not about racism the vast majority of time. You are extending what racism means into insanity.\n\nSorry, but when you only ask people of different races where they are (really) from, you are indeed treating them differently. And many people elsewhere in this thread have said why this is offensive and why it matters: it implies that these people of color are not, and cannot, be fully American in the same way that a white person (who is never questioned about where they are really from) is. Not so insane if you can actually look at things from a different perspective.\n\n>>if they ask \"where are you really from?\" after the answer is Chicago, then no this is not normal conversation.\n\n>What they mean again is your ethnicity but asking for ethnicity is a wierd question to ask so it's a default move into another bad follow up question.\n\nNo fucking shit they're asking my ethnicity. Thanks for mansplaining me what I've spent the past 5 comments telling you: they are asking about ethnicity, and not about what town I'm from. And no fucking shit it's \"weird\" (i.e., inappropriate) to ask questions about ethnicity, which is why they try to pretend they're not asking about it. I'm not quite sure how you manage to admit it's a weird question to ask after writing multiple comments (including part of this one) about how it's a normal question to ask.\n\n>>I can assure you I'm not offended if someone asks me my weight.\n\n>This doesn't make any sense. Yes people generally learn as a child that you don't call fat people fat or ask them about their weight because it's an obvious problem for them.\n\nBut your argument is that since you can ask white people where they're from, and even where they're really from, then the question can't be offensive. Well, you can ask me how much I weigh, so by your standards it's not offensive to ask fat people how much they weigh, too.\n\n>>'d have to be able to divine what it's like to be fat in order to understand the perspective of fat people, and this isn't inherent information.\n\n>You'd have to be stupid to not understand why you don't ask someone about their disability as small talk. And you are just using this a bad faith example but it just doesn't work in this context.\n\nYou'd have to be stupid to not understand you don't ask someone about their ethnicity as small talk.\n\nAlso, I didn't know being fat was a disability.", "> You keep ignoring the fact that people know it's offensive, which is why they refuse to clearly and straightforwardly ask what your ethnicity is.\n\nNo. It's not normally considered an offensive question. As I've explained by now many times. It is only offensive depending on the specific person you ask it from. Not based on them being a POC.\n\n> Regardless, the measure of whether or not something is offensive is not the subjective intent of the speaker. \n\nYes. For someone with a victim mindset looking to get offended they will get offended.\n\n> Just like it's not inherently offensive to ask someone how much they weigh.\n\nWrong on 2 parts. You aren't talking about asking about weight. You were talking about a fat person. And yeah it's pretty universally understood that it's not small talk material.\n\nI already told you. It's a bad example it's not working to show anything.\n\n> I could say it's pretty racist for you to compare being a poc to being a doctor.\n\nYou couldn't. It's not the same thing to compare a notable basic thing such as profession about someone to a disability. But you seem to be too mad to actually think what you are saying at this point.\n\n> No fucking shit they're asking my ethnicity. Thanks for mansplaining me what I've spent the past 5 comments telling you: they are asking about ethnicity, and not about what town I'm from. And no fucking shit it's \"weird\" (i.e., inappropriate) to ask questions about ethnicity, which is why they try to pretend they're not asking about it. I'm not quite sure how you manage to admit it's a weird question to ask after writing multiple comments (including part of this one) about how it's a normal question to ask.\n\nNo. It's wierd to use the word ethnicity in a conversation it's not normal. What is normal is asking someone where they are from. So people don't swtich up to ask what the ethnicity is but instead ask the really question. Which in the moment and to people, like I've explained many times, who don't have personal knowledge of being in a minority isn't something that is obviously offensive when it's such a basic thing to ask.\n\n> But your argument is that since you can ask white people where they're from, and even where they're really from, then the question can't be offensive. Well, you can ask me how much I weigh, so by your standards it's not offensive to ask fat people how much they weigh, too.\n\nAgain wrong on quite many fronts. \n\nAsking where you are from is normal yes.\n\nIf someone wants to know what part of the country someone is from they will just ask yeah... \n\nAnd again you are talking of fat people in your own example and again that would be something kindergardeners are taught to not call fat people fat. And again you are comparing a disability to having minority skin color. Children would know not to call a retard a retard. And you do as well. It's just a bad example it doesn't work like I keep telling you.\n\n> You'd have to be stupid to not understand you don't ask someone about their ethnicity as small talk.\n\nAs I've explained many times already. It's a perfectly normal question that only becomes a problem question with very specific people. \n\n> Also, I didn't know being fat was a disability.\n\nYeah being obese is a health condition.\n\nI'm just explaining you the other perspective you are missing because you can only think of yourself and your feelings. Victim mindset.", "> It's not normally considered an offensive question. As I've explained by now many times.\n\nYou also explained it's weird to ask about ethnicity. \n\nAnd if it is normal to ask about ethnicity, why don't people directly ask about ethnicity? Please \"explain\" that to me.\n\n>>Regardless, the measure of whether or not something is offensive is not the subjective intent of the speaker.\n\n>Yes. For someone with a victim mindset looking to get offended they will get offended.\n\nI mean, you're the one who seems offended that people shouldn't be asking where poc are really from.\n\nWhat we have here in this thread is story after story of minorities saying how they find these questions offensive. Your response is essentially that they are snowflakes. Of course, it's not that long ago that people who are offended by racial and sexual slurs were also called the easily offended.\n\n>>Just like it's not inherently offensive to ask someone how much they weigh.\n\n>Wrong on 2 parts. You aren't talking about asking about weight. You were talking about a fat person.\n\nWrong on 2 parts. I was talking about asking weight (just like asking where someone is from). The person who finds this question offensive is a fat person (just like a poc finds that question about where they're from offensive).\n\n>And yeah it's pretty universally understood that it's not small talk material.\n\nYeah, it's pretty universally understood that ethnicity is not small talk material.\n\n>>I could say it's pretty racist for you to compare being a poc to being a doctor.\n\n>You couldn't. It's not the same thing to compare a notable basic thing such as profession about someone to a disability. \n\nHuh? So being a poc is a disability? Because you definitely compared questions about being a doctor to questions about ethnicity.\n\n>No. It's wierd to use the word ethnicity in a conversation it's not normal.\n\n\nWhy is it not normal. Please explain to me why it's not normal to use this word when it's otherwise very normal to talk about ethnicity (without actually using the word, I guess).\n\nSeriously. Explain why it's not normal to use this word. Why is it apparently so taboo that people go out of their way to avoid it? \n\n>Asking where you are from is normal yes.\n\n>If someone wants to know what part of the country someone is from they will just ask yeah.\n\nLike, why are you so intent on refusing to acknowledge that nobody is actually asking where in the USA the minorities are from?\n\nThis thread has story after story of poc being asked where they're (really) from, and they're all quite clear that they're being asked their ethnicity. You yourself admit that these questions are really about ethnicity, and that these questions are asked because of how people look. You admit that white people don't get asked this question. \n\nAnd despite all that, you continue to trot out this stupid suggestion that it's a normal question and that they really just want to know what part of the USA you're from. Why?\n\n>And again you are talking of fat people in your own example and again that would be something kindergardeners are taught to not call fat people fat. And again you are comparing a disability to having minority skin color. Children would know not to call a retard a retard.\n\nAgain, I'm not talking about calling people fat. Im talking about asking their weight. It's a normal question that many people are not offended by. I'm not offended by it. \n\n>And again you are comparing a disability to having minority skin color. \n\nBeing fat isn't a disability. Sorry to break it to you, but it's not.\n\nAnd again, I'm not sure why the comparison is any worse than you comparing being a doctor to being a poc.\n\n>>You'd have to be stupid to not understand you don't ask someone about their ethnicity as small talk.\n\n>As I've explained many times already. It's a perfectly normal question that only becomes a problem question with very specific people.\n\nAs I've explained many times already, it is not a normal question, and people will go to great lengths to avoid admitting they're asking about ethnicity.\n\n>>Also, I didn't know being fat was a disability.\n\n>Yeah being obese is a health condition.\n\nHealth condition ≠ disability.\n\n>I'm just explaining you the other perspective you are missing because you can only think of yourself and your feelings. Victim mindset.\n\nAnd many other commenters and I are explaining the perspective of those who are asked where they're really from.\n\nIf you do want to actually explain the perspective of those who ask, please explain what the question \"where are you really from?\" really means.\n\nWhy does a white guy who says he's from Chicago not get asked where he's really from? And why is it that a brown guy who says he's from Chicago does get asked where he's really from?\n\nWhat does \"really from\" mean? What does it mean to imply that the brown guy can't \"really\" be from Chicago?\n\nIf it is about ethnicity, it it more or less inappropriate to use the word \"ethnicity\" than to suggest he can't \"really\" be from Chicago or the USA?\n\nAnd if it is about ethnicity, why is the ethnic heritage of a brown guy more worthy of questions than the ethnicity of a white guy?\n\nExplain away.", "> You also explained it's weird to ask about ethnicity.\n\n> And if it is normal to ask about ethnicity, why don't people directly ask about ethnicity? Please \"explain\" that to me.\n\n\nYes as in you would just ask where someone is from. The wording is wierd not trying to find out where someone's parents are from.\n\nBut I'm done, not gonna read further. If you don't want to get it nothing I can help with. If you do you can just reread what I've already explained.", "Right, you're totally laughing your ass off and not struggling with profound insecurity and untreated mental illness. You're the most sane debatelord on Reddit!", ">You ran away from proving you obviously true statements. Which isn't funny it's just sad. \n\nThe fuck are you talking about? And what does you quoting comments I made earlier today have to do with this? I'm not sure why you believe that everyone has to participate in your delusions or else they're \"running away.\"", "lol so you disagree that Trump had a part in inciting a riot. I'm not surprised a dumbfuck would have a dumbfuck opinion, I suppose I also shouldn't be surprised that you're using that comment to show how \"insane\" I am or whatever. And just so we're clear - you're saying that because I won't produce my reasoning for saying that you're full of shit... you're not full of shit? You need help buddy.", "Ah we've come back around to me being a coward, wonderful. You really should get help, man.", ">I disagree that screeching about it is sane. You should read more carefully\n\nAh yes the last administration's outrageous attempts to undo an election are totally normal and we should all move on. You'd think that someone from ~~Cambodia~~ the USSR wouldn't mock these concerns. \n\n>You've been chasing me around reddit \"warning\" people about me for the better part of a year. Do you honestly look at your double chin in the mirror and say \"Yes. I am a mentally well adjusted stalker\"? You actually do that?\n\nIf leaving a half dozen comments in threads where you're utterly embarrassing yourself counts as \"chasing you around,\" I really don't know what to say other than you're being extremely precious. And lol now I'm fat too?!? Look I know you're wounded and life must be very hard for someone so unstable but I think you should take some time away from Reddit.", "Hahaha you're making frantic edits to squeeze in as many insults as possible but replying twice to you is too much? I should be embarrassed for spending even more of my time on such a fucking loser", "Jesus christ, you really can't help yourself can you? Again, please get some help.", "You're counting individual comments as seperate instances of \"stalking\"? You literally made an image of a fake comment and followed another user to a seperate subreddit to harass them with it. This happened yesterday. If you're half as pathetic irl as you are online, things must be real rough for you.", ">30 or so times you’ve come into random threads I’m in to warn people. \n\nI mean that's not true but I wouldn't expect a pathological liar to be a stickler for accuracy", "Your reading comprehension isn't super great is it", "Why don't you go and count, show me a list of every interaction if that's what you really need to do", ">You’re the one stalking me. \n\nOh, right I forgot what with your incessant replies", ">> And if it is normal to ask about ethnicity, why don't people directly ask about ethnicity? Please \"explain\" that to me.\n> \n> Yes as in you would just ask where someone is from. The wording is wierd not trying to find out where someone's parents are from.\n\nYou seem unaware of this, but simply repeating something isn't an explanation. Repeating your claim that it's weird to use the word ethnicity doesn't explain why it's weird.\n\nIt's pretty telling that you are unable to answer concrete questions, or even seriously engage in an attempt to answer those questions. Basically your entire argument boils down to repeated assertions (or \"explanations,\" as you call them) that some things are normal, and some things are weird.\n\n>If you don't want to get it nothing I can help with.\n\nI mean, you could just try answering the questions at the bottom of my last post, as that would actually help explain what's really happening with these \"where are you really from?\" questions.", "> You seem unaware of this, but simply repeating something isn't an explanation. Repeating your claim that it's weird to use the word ethnicity doesn't explain why it's weird.\n\nIt does. In normal conversation you just ask where someone is from. And again like I've explained many times before asking someone where they are from meaning where their parents and ancestry is from is not wierd it's normal. \n\n> It's pretty telling that you are unable to answer concrete questions, or even seriously engage in an attempt to answer those questions. Basically your entire argument boils down to repeated assertions (or \"explanations,\" as you call them) that some things are normal, and some things are weird.\n\nEvery single question I've answered so wrong again.\n\n> I mean, you could just try answering the questions at the bottom of my last post, as that would actually help explain what's really happening with these \"where are you really from?\" questions.\n\nI have several times over. But you just refuse to understand anyone but your own perspective.", ">>You seem unaware of this, but simply repeating something isn't an explanation. Repeating your claim that it's weird to use the word ethnicity doesn't explain why it's weird.\n\n>It does. In normal conversation you just ask where someone is from. And again like I've explained many times before asking someone where they are from meaning where their parents and ancestry is from is not wierd it's normal. \n\nAgain, simply restating your conclusion that it's normal is not an explanation: it's a circular argument. \n\n\"It's normal because it's normal! And that makes it ok!\"\n\n>Every single question I've answered so wrong again.\n\nOk, quote me where you answered these questions:\n\n>If you do want to actually explain the perspective of those who ask, please explain what the question \"where are you really from?\" really means.\n>\n>Why does a white guy who says he's from Chicago not get asked where he's really from? And why is it that a brown guy who says he's from Chicago does get asked where he's really from?\n>\n>What does \"really from\" mean? What does it mean to imply that the brown guy can't \"really\" be from Chicago?\n>\n>If it is about ethnicity, it it more or less inappropriate to use the word \"ethnicity\" than to suggest he can't \"really\" be from Chicago or the USA?\n>\n>And if it is about ethnicity, why is the ethnic heritage of a brown guy more worthy of questions than the ethnicity of a white guy?\n>\n>Explain away.", "that's a misleading stat. That there's a decrease from 24.4% to 4.2% in term of % of world GDP doesn't mean that India's GDP in absolute figures went down or even stopped increasing. It's a terrible metric for trying to quantify the impact of British colonialism in India. Their relative share of world GDP went down as western countries industrialized and saw their own GDPs boom.", "for example?", "Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Austria, Sweden, Switzerland, etc.\n\nhttps://theconversation.com/which-countries-have-the-most-immigrants-113074\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_dependent_territories_by_immigrant_population", "They will never understand man. Lmao. Good on you for trying to educate him though. You can't give people that global perspective, they believe that all that happens to them is what they see happen to them. Nothing is allowed to be pervasive, part of a bigger whole. You can't link the exploitation of India by the British Empire to the poverty that governs much of it today. Or the Bengali famine. Or anything the British have done outside a 10-year window. What about Iraq big man? When will that pain, that trauma, the utter destruction and wholesale genocide of hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, when will it be THEIR fault and not OURS?", "that still doesn't detract from the fact that the t21st century united states in the most welcoming country for immigrants. and by \"welcoming\", i mean the incredible opportunities offered to a legal immigrant, and more importantly, america allows legal immigrants to eventually bring their entire family to join them in the states, per the family reunification rule.", "You think that places like Canada and Australia aren't welcoming, don't have opportunities, and don't have similar family reunification schemes?" ]	312	videos	Riz Ahmed on his identity (The Big Narstie Show)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FS9SvGvbSgw	/r/videos/comments/rcjvt9/travis_scotts_first_interview_since_the_tragedies/	[ "Not going to waste my time watching. Fuck that guy.", "A dislike count would come in real handy right about now.", "Fuck him. I hope he dies alone and penniless", "Didn't Charlemagne eat a dog's pussy or some weird shit? Not sure what it was, but it was weirder than what's normally allowed of a celebrity. Probably should have went of Fallon, instead.", "Don't give this guy a platform", "Ight ima head out", "He says \"you know?\" About 1,000,000 times. \nSometimes he even double-down's with a \"ya know, you know??\"", "Right now it's 34k like 8.4k dislike" ]	8	videos	Travis Scott's first interview since the tragedies at the Astroworld Festival
https://youtu.be/kCsbcZCcG3Y	/r/videos/comments/rcjxmc/downing_a_bottle_of_hennessey/	[ "CUT!", "\"Never stop the camera\"\n- Michael Moore", "That's like, breakfast.", "\"Popping big bottles.\"\n\nHolding a very small bottle.", "Man I love this dude", "A lil woosh", "ITT: Apparently nobody understands this is a joke", "This is a joke, right? When I was an alcoholic I'd down 20 of these a day on occasion.\n\nEdit: Thanks for down voting. I actually mean that. I now realize it may sound like I was bragging or something. I'm definitely not. I'm sober now and wouldn't wish my past, non-sober life on my worst enemy. There is absolutely nothing about alcohol to glorify.", "Can you actually not comprehend very obvious jokes?", "Yes, this is a joke. Also... not everyone is an alcoholic or can down one of these easily.", "woah, 20 a day? \n\n\nThat sounds like a cumulative hangover. Also very expensive.", "r/TIL", "Are you... mad at him for missing the joke he's pointing out... ?\n\n&#x200B;\n\nEdit; I've awarded him silver for observing the joke. You can continue to be mad about him not observing the joke. Maybe someone will give you silver for it, who knows.", "Also recovering alcoholic, 20 would be about normal for me towards the end, where average drinking was a fifth of liquor a day. Also I didn't buy nips, you end up buying tons of them and wasting money. Pints are more economical and you can carry them on you. Not that I recommend it, alcohol ruined my life.", "I gathered recovering, and congratulations wherever that journey is. \n\n\nI worked in a liquor store and definitely knew the people who came in for a pint or a couple half pints every day. It is a very expensive vice. really made me buying video games I never play seem like a better idea.", "Yeah, it is expensive. But buying the booze is only a small part of it. All the decisions you make when you're drunk every day are more expensive. \n\nThanks.", "Joke or not, choking on liquor like this is..... not fun.", "How do you figure its pity?", "cut that cut that cut that cut that", "Drinking and driving is awesome!", "I really wonder how people are this fucking gullible... You didn't see him crack open the bottle, it was already open. You really think it was actual Hennessey in there and not iced tea or some other brown liquid? Not sure if you're trolling or not, but if not, please try harder.", "Jokes on you I was just pretending.", "he would rather assume the former, that way he can criticize the guy.", "call the cops", "I was more re-iterating the joke I heard. Didn't think it was going to be so offensive to repeat a joke.", "What makes you think this was a joke? He fully teared up, there's no way he is such a good actor to create that many tears so quickly.", "What's the joke?", "Drinking liquor behind the wheel of your car isn't just dumb, it's illegal in at least some places (definitely where I live). Doesn't matter if you're parked or even have the keys in the vehicle, just being in the driver's seat means a DUI.", "Observance Inception", "get megan a mic", "cant get hungover if youre always drunk.", "Shuttup dummy", "[This is how I feel reading these comments.](https://i.imgur.com/ExaRYLL.png) \n\nFuck, it's like when I was a kid telling my parents about how funny it was that a girl in my school got pregnant (8th grade) and it turned into a half hour of lecturing me about how my shitty my life would be if I were to get someone pregnant, and that I needed to wait until I was older to have sex. Holy fuck. \n\nThe guy was creating a video he thought would be funny for his friends imitating people who show off holding entire bottles of Hennessy. The joke is that he is holding a tiny bottle and acting like he is hot shit when it's actually the tiny bottles they'd give you on a flight - a single shot worth. The average person would be able to drink it without any problems. His reactions are what you'd expect from someone drinking a full 750ml/1L bottle.\n\nIt doesn't need to turn into a whole speech about why this guy could have gotten in trouble. It has no impact on any of you, and his choices are his own to make.", "Or I'm trying to annoy people who are acting like pointing out irony means you don't understand irony.", "Good on you for recovering my friend, most of us struggle with some kind of addiction at some point in life, and you are able to come to face with it and talk about it. Keep it up and be proud of yourself!", "This is drinking and driving in the same way driving behind a car that's getting hotboxes is drinking and smoking.", "Welcome to reddit, swear this happens every thread", "Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahah CUT!", "Jumping off large building without the ability to fly suck man.", "How high were you when you tried to write that one out?", "Hi, how are you?", "Dude, it's a joke.\n\nEdit: shit, I mean this shit is real", "??? Someone drinking while driving is not “his own choice to make”", "No, drinking and getting in his own car to record a video is. Drinking and driving would be a danger to others on the road. His choice is to risk a DUI by getting in his car to record a video. He isn't driving, and it doesn't appear that the car is turned on. He could get arrested, but he isn't presently a danger.", "Yeah I was drinking around a handle a day. It was so stupid. I'd been in a bad car accident and was laid up for a long time with nothing to do and my drinking sky rocketed. I had full blown dt's, blood coming from almost everywhere daily, and many ambulance/hospital visits. Never become an alcoholic. I still have complications after getting sober. And yeah. I calculated about 2000 a year and I was drinking cheap.", "Congrats! Sobriety's been a tough journey but I'm not giving up. Alcohol ruined my life for quite some time, as well. Proud of you stranger.", "A fifth of a bottle is nowhere close to 20 shots", "Liquor all over my sturrin whil", "Really? Google tells me that 20 shots is 887ml, a fifth is 750ml and I said a fifth was average. 1500ml in a day for me wasn't uncommon.", "I think most people here can’t even legally drink, so they have no clue what’s going on.", "> ...no? Why would it be? There’s a reason it’s illegal, you dope.\n\nYou've misunderstood them.\n\nThey are under the impression this guy was drinking and driving and was asserting exactly the same thing you are.\n\nHow nice of you to insult them for sharing your opinion, you dope.", "It's kinda sad that you had to lay out the ENTIRE joke. What happened to critical thinking?" ]	54	videos	Downing a bottle of Hennessey
https://youtu.be/QUYx59Jkhic	/r/videos/comments/rcjye2/an_old_man_in_sweden_and_his_two_pet_moose/	[ "Two pet meese, or moosen.", "The part where they reveal his relationship involves him threatening the deer with the fist is a very nice touch.", "No realli! She was Karving her initials on the møøse with the sharpened end of an interspace tøøthbrush given her by Svenge - her brother-in-law - an Oslo dentist and star of many Norwegian møvies: \"The Høt Hands of an Oslo Dentist\", \"Fillings of Passion\", \"The Huge Mølars of Horst Nordfink\"", "the beginning sounds like british drill adlibs", "when i was younger I fantasized about being friends with a moose- he's living the dream", "They are discussing the dangers of them growing up. Moose play “fight” with their heads and he is discouraging the moose to develop the association of “playing” with him", "Quick summary: their mother gave birth close to his house, but got spooked and ran away. He waited 36 hours for her to return, and then decided to start feeding them cow milk. At one point the authorities came there to but both of them down, but he managed to get them out in the forest and keep them from getting killed. At the point of the video they're roughly one year old, and the male is starting to grow horns and engaging the old man in rough play, hence the raised fist.", "I'm from Sweden and what it says is that their mother abandoned them and he raised them on cows milk. When the authorities came to put them down he released them into the woods. They still come back now and then and hang around his house. So it's not like he's having them as pets.", "Does she turn into a moose now when the moon is full?", "It’s good to see an old man doing moose stuff", "Two pet \"MEEESE\" !\n\n&#x200B;\n\n&#x200B;\n\n&#x200B;\n\n&#x200B;\n\n&#x200B;\n\n&#x200B;\n\n&#x200B;\n\n:)", "[two pet meese...duh](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRMgSnTpvaw&t=199s)", "How you sound like to a dog, the video.", "I'm sorry to hear that. Is she okay now?", "Thats not true. There are examples of domesticated moose in Sweden being used for riding or for pulling although rare. There are however plenty of petting zoos where you can pet a moose in sweden if you want. They are no where near as agressive as hippos. But rather hard to domesticate and quite sketchy.\n\n&#x200B;\n\nThere are even stories of a Swedish king setting up a regiment of Moose riders long ago, but this is probably just stories or a failed attempt.", "A Møøse once bit my sister", "While north American specimen are on average larger, they are by no means close to 1600kg. You probably found a source stating their weight in lbs" ]	17	videos	An old man in Sweden and his two pet moose
https://youtu.be/jhLunFajgwg?t=9	/r/videos/comments/rck1pz/maximum_speed_engaged/	[ "Amazing. Dude in the back is super impressed.", "Amazing. Dude in the back is super impressed.", "Who the fuck downvotes stuff like this. This is amazing!" ]	2	videos	Maximum speed engaged.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPiS5zB1tDo	/r/videos/comments/rck3b5/found_this_amazing_persian_youtuber_that_teaches/	[ "This channel looks amazing! I like his voice, so chill and happy.\n\nEdit: I've been wanting to make this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SissyTsabMo (Fesenjan)", "Came here for the Fesenjan recipe, lol. Thanks for dropping the link!", "Yee! He really is amazing, I've been following him since he had like 500 subscribers and he's so wholesome in every video!", "as a Persharican, this dish might be one of the best things from Iran!", "The thumbnail looks like the inside of a porta potty after someone ate 4 baconators and a can of beans…", "lmao don't let first impressions throw you off from trying it, it's one of the best things I've ever ate", "Oh I bet, just had to say something because that thumbnail looks mad unappetizing", ".....then....you eat it. :) \n\nThank you for sharing this link, I'll be dropping in to visit him quite often. BTW, I thought his name was Gormeh Sabzi.", "This is awesome! My wife is half Persian and makes a great Ghormeh Sabzi. She recently learned to make Mirza Ghassemi and it's my new favorite food. Happy to find Yousef has a video on it as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XB93weC6tAw", "Haha he's a hidden gem, glad that you liked him :)", "Oooh I've never head of Mirza Ghassemi, I'll have to try it!", "My father-in-law makes it and serves it with smoked salmon on top. It's so good.", "Can someone provide insight into the herbs he used? I’m not familiar with Fenugreek or Chivas? Where would i find these herbs?", "Nectar of the Gods. Ok, DIP of the Gods. Tastes like a campfire - I mean that in the best way. One of those things you just can't stop eating...", "Fenugreek is pretty common. Middle-East/Indian place should have it.\n\nEdit: Did you also mean chives? Quite common in the West/Europe, anyway.", "> Chivas\n\nLOL like Patak Paneer; looks like baby vomit, tastes great.", "I think Fenugreek is the same as 'methi' at Indian grocery stores, but you can also get it from amazon in the dried form shorturl.at/lvPYZ\n\nOh lol I think he mispronounced Chives", "I'll have to try that. I've always wanted to cook an eggplant. I finally got around to cooking something with leeks, then something with a spaghetti squash which were both good. Now I need to do the eggplant and something with an acorn squash.", "To the uninitiated, koobideh kabob is top-tier. Make it a priority to find a good Persian restaurant and try this. Life-fucking-changing.", "Haha I got kinda lucky living in Ontario, there's a large Persian diaspora so you can get really good koobideh kabob in every major city", "Turns out there's a company called [Kadbanou](http://www.kadbanou.com/sabzi-ghormesabzi.php) that cleans, chops, prepares and freezes all the herbs for this dish as well as other Persian dishes. That way you can just pull one of the premixed packs out of the freezer and make this dish without having to deal with the hassle of prepping all the herbs. It saves a ton of time!", "Thanks…Chives makes much more sense. had never heard of Fenugreek either so Chivas seemed like a possibility. 🙃", "I wish I could smell that through the screen.\n\nNever made this but def going on my to-do recipes to try!", "It is such a unique and amazing smell I can't wait for you to try it!", "Woah that's awesome!", "Following him now!... thansk for this!!", "Haha glad you liked him too!", "Sooo, what's up with those limes? Are they limes? This whole thing looks delicious, but those limes man...", "Ye they are dried limes, you pull them out before serving, they add a nice little bit of sourness to the stew!", "Hot tip, if you can't find the dried Persian limes, sumac and lemon juice is a great substitution.", "Ooh didn't know that, thanks for the info, had trouble finding dried limes!", "Except one recipe that uses the mix requires:\n\n8 whole dried limes \n\n \nOh sure, I'll just pop down to the local supermarket in my midwest town of 15K people and buy some *dried limes.", "This is what I love about cooking.", "> you pull them out before serving,\n\nI usually eat them with the dish, they're delicious in small bits.", "Lol being in the midwest might make this recipe kinda hard, but I remember /u/hopscotch_mafia mentioned you could use \"sumac and lemon juice [as] a great substitution\"", "What in hell is that?", "Quick heads-up on Fesenjan, it is one of the more advanced dishes of Persian cuisine, so go slow. It was the first dish that my mom was impressed I could make without her help xD", "OMG that looks so GOOD!! \n\n\nIts so healthy too!", "It's a meat herb stew with lamb and beef and fenugreek", "If you haven't tried persian food I would high recommend this dish OP posted, as well as [beef kabobs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NR77Y3oiXNg) (also known as koobideh). This dish is seriously next level if made well. If you know, you know.\n\nThey kind of touch on some of the staples of good Persian cusine. I was raised in an Iranian household and started seriously cooking it about 2 years ago. There are countless amazing dishes and variations that are guaranteed to blow your socks off. \n\nI think for a lot of people who are unfamiliar with this kind of food will think it just looks like rice and mush - which is totally fair. But there's a ton* of flavor in nearly every kind of dish. We use a big variety of herbs and spices in every dish. This goes for entrees, appetizers and side dishes. \n\nThey can be a bit of work and for the love of god, get good quality meat for your stews and let that shit simmer! Anyone can do it. Though I have to say, making Persian rice is really an art (particular if you want some saffron and crispy rice). But my fiancee gave it a try (she has an American background) and pulls it off better than I do.\n\nI'm passionate about foods all over the world and Persian cuisine is high on my list. (Obviously a bit bias but still)", "Fenugreek is in nearly all curry. Take a look at ingredients next time you see a curry powder. Lots of times you can’t find the leaves, so you can use the seeds instead. However you have to lightly roast them before cooking with them. I learned this when I made butter chicken from scratch but couldn’t get fenugreek leaves. And damn it was delicious, but tedious.", "Haha I hope it's healthy, been eating way too much of it recently!", "Man, sometimes I regret moving from SF to Montana. Instead of riding five blocks to the Mission to get basically whatever ingredients I need, I have to order basically everything.", "Totally agree, persian food is super underated for how delicous and unique it is. After trying it once, it was instantly one of my faviourite types of cuisine", "Oh rip, are there any indian grocery stores or whole foods near you, they should probably carry most of everything you need.", "There's one place in Missoula, but it seems to be packaged japanese sodas, korean jelly cookies, stuff like that. I was planning on checking it out tomorrow. Hell, even if I can get some dried keffir leaves there, I'd be happy.", "https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWj_rUMGYCP0DjffybE2nbg this is a similar channel except the guy is Egyptian, same quality of recipes and wholesome vibe", "I love the authenticity and care he gives, makes me feel like he just wants to teach me about his food and culture.", "N O O S H E H J A H N", "The thumbnail is a bit off putting but it's a really good dish.", "I googled that word and I got literally 0 results, how strange", "Uncle Yousef is great, been subbed to him for over a year", "Middle Eats is fucking boss.", "Being Indian, I'm somewhat familiar with the process though I will add, I have never seen walnut in a stew/curry.\n\nI intend to get some from a local Iranian place this weekend so I know what it is supposed to taste like.", "What the heck is dried lime, never heard of that!", "well it's just a lime....that's been dried, kinda like a dried fig", "It’s just as good with chicken!", "Oh and not all Fesenjans are created equal. Tehranian Fesenjan is quite sweet, while those in the North (e.g. Rasht) are sour. I prefer the sour variety, but that requires good quality pomegrante paste that is hard to get hold of outside Iran.", "Make delicious food", "Good luck, hope it all goes great 😅", "PershArican, pretty smooth hu ;)" ]	63	videos	Found this amazing persian youtuber that teaches all his family recipies (Ghormeh Sabzi)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7t97jxMSBw	/r/videos/comments/rck4nb/how_4chan_changed_society_forever/	[ "kudos to everyone who makes it through this pretentious pseudo intellectual bait for 20 minutes", "Oh shit, this is about that hacker I learned about on CNN!", "4chan -IS- society" ]	3	videos	How 4chan Changed Society Forever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IjKRK-ORSs	/r/videos/comments/rckpqb/colin_furze_builds_a_secret_underground_tunnel/	[ "[Part 1](https://youtu.be/YOelRv7fMxY) \n[Part 2](https://youtu.be/0dYMRj9whp4) \n[Part 3](https://youtu.be/WIe5GKyLPek) \n[Part 4](https://youtu.be/RFLqlHFoI3M) \n[Part 5](https://youtu.be/s4-gMgdsnHQ) \n[Shorts: digging under the house](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2sc5RRRi2Y) \n[Shorts: concreting the tunnel](https://youtube.com/watch?v=aM_pamMNf9E) \n[Shorts: how hot does the tunnel get](https://youtube.com/watch?v=JbbkzfyuI8o) \n\nColin, if you’re reading this, please wear some more PPE.", "This might get asked every time but how does he get permission for these projects? And where does he get the money from? I know he's pushing the merch, but you have to sell al lot of water bottles to buy all those metal plates. Is he doing drug runs on that hoover bike?", "Most of his projects are sponsored nowadays. \n\n[A commenter from the last video](https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qrof4s/colin_furze_builds_a_secret_underground_tunnel/hk9f5lj/) mentioned he does get permits for his building projects as well. Not sure if this entire tunnel is 100% cleared my his local municipality.", "He has a video on \"how to build a bunker\" a few years on or similar where he mentions he got permission after the fact", "Lol no helmet when he's knocking rocks loose above his head." ]	5	videos	Colin Furze Builds a Secret Underground Tunnel (Part 6)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxGmGGmvFD8	/r/videos/comments/rckpwg/tom_holland_calls_for_a_doctor_while_eating_spicy/	[ "Did he do better or worse than dj kahled?", "100x times better", "Sean the man, great interview", "DJ Khaled was back in season 1, before the show was taken seriously. If he was on the show, now, he'd get through it, like everyone else. But, back then, there wasn't an expectation to make it to the end.", "Tom really seems like he'd be a great guy to go for a pint with! Such a charismatic and humble guy.", "Good thing Holland provides such good universal healthcare.", "bro even for that time it was pathetic my dude was acting like Cholula was the devils sauce, I dump that shit on my chips Cholula is one of the least spicy sauces out there.", "What a fucking champ. Went for 2nds on the last sauce. \n\n\nAlso you can tell he's very good friends with his MCU buddies.", "I’m convinced that Hot Ones nerfed the spiciness of their sauces as the seasons went on. Used to be that they’d have celebrities who are super into spicy foods on the show, who would come onto the program bragging about how much spicy stuff they ate, and then they would get absolutely smashed by the last 3 or 4 wings. A bunch of the early contestants couldn’t even finished. And then nowadays you have scrawny British boy Tom Holland doing the final dab and he’s absolutely fine - he even goes in for a second bite. Same thing for Billie Eilish, Scarlett Johanssen, Ed Sheeran, Daniel Radcliffe - they all do absolutely fine on the show, but do any of these people strike you as the type of person who would crush it in a spicy food eating contest. There’s no way the sauces these days are as strong as they used to be. Hot Ones nerfed their sauces so that they could bring more celebrities onto show.", "So, is it skinny people who can't handle spicy food? Or just white people? Also, I didn't know that Daniel Radcliffe had a sister.", "Legit super spiciness is not a fun experience. It can put people in the hospital", "First time I've ever heard Holland swear.", "Why are you here if you're not actually watching it?", "I have yet to watch this but that's not saying much. 100x0=0", "Da Bomb has been on since the beginning, and is usually the one that absolutely destroys people. I do agree with you, it seems like the legit pain seems to be a thing of the past but the one that has crushed souls is still there. Maybe they prepare the wings differently.", "r/iamverybadass", "Not a good interview sadly. As far as interesting questions with unique or insightful answers.\n\nAn entertaining interview though thanks to Tom's charisma/likeability.", "I think part of it is people who do it now know very well what they are in for. I think a few tapouts from the past were spicyness + being caught completely off guard by it.", "Thank god you copied and pasted this. How else would anyone be able to find this video?", "I mean he says \"Holy shit\" in his first ever movie as Spider-Man", "What? He was saying that tapatio was going to injure him. He bitched out to the maximum degree. The worst guest on the show by far.", "Is the mention of Jon Berthal mean that we might see Punisher in the new Spiderman movie?", "Yes but they're still hot enough to get the desired effect of forcing the interviewee to drop their guard a little. When the guest is so lost in the spice they can't even answer a question, the only people having fun are sadists.", "Imagine all the famous asses that have sat on their toilet.", "Khaled probably thinks mayo is spicy.", "Yeah spoiled it for me too. Apparently it was announced already.", "????\n\nLink?", "Tom Holland...scrawny. Buddy, [you wish you looked this good.](https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/the-lowdown-tom-holland-kq9c5ftx7)\n\nAs for your point, maybe you're onto something. I think what we need to testimonials from people who've purchased the early seasons top sauces.", "I’m sure you’re right about the reasoning. And it makes perfect sense; if you’re trying to grow your program to attract more guests and reach a wider audience, then you want to make it easier for guests to get through the end. But at the same time I miss seeing people get absolutely destroyed by the spice, even if it could sometimes get in the way of them answering the questions. I think I’m more interested in watching super rich celebrities get red in the face and lose their shit over some high scovilles than I am in hearing about their childhood or whatever. There are lots of interview shows out there and nearly all of them go out of their way to make their celebrity guests look good. Hot Ones made their guests freak out and cry and sometimes vomit on camera and I liked that better.", "Yeah, but that was Peter Parker not Tom Holland /s", "DJ Khaled seemed like he would have done decent but got dumpstered by cholula", "Why does being a scrawny British boy have anything to do with it? \n\nAs a country we eat waaay spicier food than the Americans. British-Indian food is our favourite cuisine and it's a ton spicier than TexMex, that shit is weak lmao.", "Who is the jack fella at the end eating the wings like nothing?", "Why don't you understand what reddit is?", "Did the hot wing bracket including the \"Da Bomb\" last week with ten people. Can confirm it is death you will have an intense physical reaction if you eat it. Everybody was running around the house yelling like we just did bath salts. I agree they probably water it down or something. Only one who I believe could keep a straight face is Sean.", "Sean addressed this a couple years ago and mentioned this was largely for his own health reasons.\n\nThis is a slight generalization, but there are typically two categories of hot sauce: natural and synthetic/concentrates. Natural hot sauces use actual peppers and real ingredients (garlic, vinegar, tomato, etc). Then there are hot sauces that don't get their heat directly from mashed peppers - they get it from capsaicin made in a lab. These synthetic capsaicin concentrates are made from a bunch of chemicals and are waaaay more potent than natural hot sauces, and they don't even try to have good flavors. This is the stuff where a single drop of concentrate can make an entire pot of chili unbearable, and the stuff they use in pepper spray to intentionally harm people. Hot Ones started out with more of these types of sauces, but Sean was concerned that eating large quantities of all these unnatural chemical concentrates probably wasn't the best thing for his health over time. They started swapping out their synthetic hot sauces for natural ones, and the only hot sauce still using synthetic capsaicin is Da Bomb. The rest are now all made from real peppers and aren't quite as insane as the old ones but are much safer to consume in large quantities.\n\nI also like to think that since they are now basically an ambassador for the pepper/spicy community, they'd rather celebrate and promote companies that make hot sauce to actually be tasty and enjoyed with food (but still crazy hot) versus someone throwing a bunch of chemicals in a bottle and calling it \"Satan's Flaming Dildo\".\n\nSo yeah the sauces aren't as wild as before, but I don't think it's entirely to cater to wimpy celebrities - I think they just understand the benefit of using actual artisan hot sauces that are delicious and good for you versus nasty chemicals made just to prank people with.\n\n\nEdit: Calling capsaicin concentrate \"nasty chemicals\" might be a bit of hyperbole, but /u/nemesismode describes a [good breakdown of the difference here](https://www.reddit.com/r/hotones/comments/exknao/was_dared_to_have_a_tablespoon_of_da_bomb_on_a/fga0u5j). Capsaicin concentrate might not have actual different chemicals in it, but the structure of the chemical concentrate results in ingestion being more dangerous than natural capsaicin that is still bonded to other parts of the peppers. This is kinda similar to how sugar ingested from fruit is very different from ingesting straight sugar - it's packed less densely and the addition of fiber means it has a different metabolic response.", "Wait, Tom read for the part of Finn in The Force Awakens? When he's talking about the Star Wars job he didn't get, he mentions John Boyega. Man... Tom's a great, super likeable guy, but that would've been pretty terrible, tbh. He would've been a year younger than he was when he debuted as Spider-Man, and I would not have been able to buy him as a Stormtrooper at all.\n\nAdds a bit of fun coincidence that he later starred in a different sci-fi movie where he falls in love with Daisy Ridley, though.", "I gotta know what their toilets are like after an episode.", "I guess I could see it working if they went harder into the child soldier thing.", "But who was traps", "The guests may have a bad experience, but Sean’s toilet isn’t likely to see any difference. I eat a lot of hot sauce and I grow peppers as well, and my body is so used to it that my bathroom experience doesn’t change after consuming.", "Indian food. Not british-indian food.", "Tom’s bodyguard", "Youtube videos on mobile are broken, right? It’s not just me?", "They need to have at least one more Da Bomb level sauce in the back lineup. I actually watch the show mostly for Da Bomb at this point since it's the only sauce that actually gets a good reaction or any real big reaction these days.", "Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought capsaicin concentrate is extract simply with high proof alcohol that then completely evaporates. It's not a bunch of chemicals, it's just alcohol that is completely removed, which is used in a lot of extracts.", "> These synthetic capsaicin concentrates are made from a bunch of chemicals\n\nIf it's the same capsaicin that's in natural peppers, then it's the same molecule. Making it in a lab vs an actual pepper doesn't change anything about it. The natural stuff is also \"made from a bunch of chemicals\".\n\nIf you're implying that the synthetic process leaves behind byproducts or other contaminants that make it different, then it shouldn't classified as \"food grade\" and therefore shouldn't be in food. There's a reason why you can't (shouldn't) just discharge a can of bear spray into your chili to up the heat factor beyond the fact that it's a terrible idea.\n\nI will agree that I don't see the point in making hot sauces that require using such concentrates though. I like to taste flavor, which you can't do after you cauterize your tongue.", "It was kind of weird actually, it's like this is the first celerity that Sean just didn't care to research very much - or perhaps Tom just really is pretty much a clean slate being so young.", "> I’m convinced that Hot Ones nerfed the spiciness of their sauces as the seasons went on.\n\nWatch in this episode when Holland pours out the Last Dab vs. when Sean does. One bottle looks watered down.", "Whoa, that's spicy. What is that?\n\nThat's milk, Khaled.", "I wish this was just Sean ramming Tom next to some chicken wings.", "iv'e eaten all the sauces and I can guarantee Da Bomb is the spiciest and should be last in the lineup", "They worked together on \"Pilgrimage\" like 5 years ago.", "Interesting to learn that Tom Holland has had botox before", "https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/11/business/dj-khaled-another-wing/index.html", "Broken in what way?", "I'm going with his age. He's only 25, started acting around 14, and has been Spider-Man for half his acting career. I would have like for Sean to dive into his relationship with RDJ more since that's a rare thing for a young actor to have a mentor-like figure that well known, that early in their career.", "Good point, I added an edit to try and be a bit more accurate. I was going off my interpretation and recollection of Sean's comments from years ago", "oh boy, rich person eat spicy wing. clap", "Good point, I added an edit to try and be a bit more accurate. I was going off my interpretation and recollection of Sean's comments from years ago", "What's Sean done to his teeth", "I think it's that people used to eat the whole wing, now they just nibble it.", "Cant wait to see him in Nathan Drake: The Elementary School Years.", "I'm pretty sure he's also said in an interview or Q&A that the point of the show is the interview and as such would be rather pointless if things were too hot or too strict for people to finish and go to next rounds/questions. Which makes some sense. I'm not sure the context was in lowering the heat but I can definitely see them doing so when operating on that premise.\n\nAlso doesn't necessarily require the sauces themselves to be lower in heat either, they could simply be applying less when they make the wings.", "shut up, bitch", "You don't know what you're talking about. \n\nIt's British-Indian.", "After watching enough episodes of Hot Ones I realized that hot sauce #8 Da Bomb Beyond Insanity, was responsible for absolutely destroying most guests. Bill Burr even said it himself that he thought it was the hottest out of all 10 sauces. \n\nWell curiosity got the best of me and I ordered a bottle from Amazon, and let me tell you this stuff is brutal, hurts on the way down and on the way out. Apparently Da Bomb is the only sauce on the list that uses pepper extract which is why a) it tastes terrible b) has a hot effect unlike any of the other sauces on the list. Its a painful experience, no other way to put it", "the champs are the ones who finish the whole wing, Ben Segura dedicated himself to finish everyone. He set the bar for all other guests.", "I think the point stands. Anecdotal evidence, but I can handle hot sauces pretty well. I did a Hot Ones run and Da Bomb killed me. The bigger A-list celebrities are all completely fine the whole time, not to mention they’re often professional entertainers, so there could be some great acting going on. I wouldn’t at all be surprised if they were cutting them to be less spicy, considering the show has shot up and been much more lucrative to everyone involved.", "That movie was bad....tried to watch it. Just bad. Chaos walking", "What", "Yep. I have the complete set (missing one of the more mild ones), and it's honestly not that bad. Da Bomb is without a question the hottest one, and it's not that bad.\n\nI have average/slightly above average heat tolerance, and I can do the challenge quite easily. A bit of a runny nose, and that's it.\n\nI have a hot sauce that is at least 50x hotter than any of these. I do wonder if the original ones were hotter than this.", "I can't say much I can barely eat Frank's Red hot I'd have tapped out way earlier", "Hahaha \n\nKhaled is such a bitch.", "Lol ikr", "Yes, a man who routinely gets paid to entertain people did something entertaining. That's how it works. If you don't like this particular type of entertainment, then simply don't watch it.", "I think that's probably because he's really young and hasn't done much outside of the MCU. Hard to dig up much interesting content on a kid who's just been Spiderman for 5 years.", "“Human does difficult task to completion” \n\nIt’s impressive to eat something that rates 550,000 scovilles. Being rich doesn’t make you… superhuman? It affects them like it would any person.", "Lots of things into play on that. \n\n1. Just because someone is arrogant and talks a big game about handling spicy shit, doesn't mean they are bout dat lyfe. They might just be thinking about the fire sauce at taco bell. \n\n2. Size matters fuckall. Not sure why you'd think it would matter.\n\n3. Show is popular now. Guests have seen the show and seen the struggle. People aren't stumbling into this situation like with earlier guests. So they are gonna talk less shit, and they are mentally more prepared now. Also, the guests these days know that people watch it. So they're gonna try like hell not go down in infamy like DJ Khaled. The stakes are higher.\n\n4. You listed some girls in there. Girls can handle pain better than guys. There's scientific studies on this. It's part of them birthing children. \n\n5. Da Bomb remains on the show and always has been the same in the lineup. Unless you're thinking they're actually doctoring the sauces? Like watering them down?", "I’ve had the secret aardvark sauce that was #3 in a past season. Fuckin A that was hot and it’s only number 3!", "Da Bomb is cooked. I had a bottle (close to like 7 years ago, Jesus where does the time go) and even the tiniest amount could send you into a watery-eyed state for 15 minutes, a proper amount was torture. Dosing the last bit of your friend's meal was always the height of humour.", "I feel like they move the set around to accommodate guests' schedules. I doubt it's in the same space every time.", "Oh boy, Poor man complains. clap", "That's why I like hot ones. You see the real people be real and the fake ones also be real.", "Shit is barely a swear word now. You pretty much have to grab someone by the shoulders and scream it into their gaping mouth several times before it actually counts.", "Did he touch the camera thru the fence?", "Agreed 100%.\n\nMy fiancé got us the season 1 Hot Ones sauces for fun, and we seriously couldn't recover from Da Bomb for almost 30 minutes. We had ice, milk, you name it—we were sick all night from one with each.", "I’m convinced that Hot Ones nerfed the spiciness of their sauces as the seasons went on. Used to be that they’d have celebrities who are super into spicy foods on the show, who would come onto the program bragging about how much spicy stuff they ate, and then they would get absolutely smashed by the last 3 or 4 wings. A bunch of the early contestants couldn’t even finished. And then nowadays you have scrawny British boy Tom Holland doing the final dab and he’s absolutely fine - he even goes in for a second bite. Same thing for Billie Eilish, Scarlett Johanssen, Ex Sheeran, Daniel Radcliffe - they all do absolutely fine on the show, but do any of these people strike you as the type of person who would crush it in a spicy food eating contest. There’s no way the sauces these days are as strong as they used to be. Hot Ones nerfed their sauces so that they could bring more celebrities onto show.", "Why am I not able to recall this? It was in Civil War?", "I own Da Bomb and I will never open that bottle again, unless I intend to kill/maim someone. Absolutely horrific.", "[Yeah, when Ant-Man goes Giant-Man](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqJqSmjPTiw)", "It's not even good, tasted like ass. A very strong chemical-ly spice.", "It was right when Ant-Man turned into Giant-Man\n\nhttps://youtu.be/UqJqSmjPTiw", "It has no real flavor, so I use a toothpick dipped amount in soups and chilis… like, one toothpick to a 3 gallon amount of stuff. It adds some back end heat without changing the flavor at all. It’s a terrible wing sauce.", "Who the fuck is Ben?\n\n\nYou just lost your life buddy", "All that and they didn’t bother noting that he’s a little bitch that can’t handle lemon pepper wings without playing himself. Journalism, people!", "Probably some chomo", "Magic of editing.", "exactly. they’re very clearly still composed for the most part. not like the first couple seasons when guests were clearly very fucked up and embarassed", "This one is gonna get a lot of views", "For me the pain afterwards hurts far more than the pain while eating them.", "He won’t get you a link cause it’s not true. It’s likely we’ll see some of the Netflix actors back at some point soon but nothing has been confirmed", "So how does this work? You HAVE to eat them all? Can't you like, tag out if it's too spicy? I've never see this show before.", "Every episode just makes me more impressed by the iron will of Lorde laughing her way through every sauce.", "Anti-Ant-Man", "I’m a fucking American you dumb son of a bitch", "HEYYY CHRISTINA", "This is the true deterrent. \nI know this is going to be 10x hotter out than in.-", "Gi-Ant-Man", "Based on someone’s comment above I think it’s the only one with artificial capsaicin, right?", "He's probably not lying in that he probably spent most of that Lakers game on the shitter lol", "Did not expect to find Khaled defenders in the comments lol. Didn’t think he had fans. Unless this is just a burner account?", "You can. But the audience expects you to go through it so if you don't, you're pretty much branded forever. \n\n\nLooking at you, DJ Kahled.", "Yup. Its not supposed to have any taste. Pure capsaicin is tasteless, at least to our tastebuds. It just activates the pain receptors like hell. \n\n\nI've enjoyed stuff up to I think 2 Last Dabs ago and have someone who grows me Scorpion and Carolina Reaper peppers. They actually have GREAT taste beyond the heat and if you mix them into a salsa correctly, you can enjoy it. But people who dick around with the extract, thats just nonsense.", "Even so, the Stormtroopers already have a reputation for being Keystone cops... if one of them pulled off their helmet and revealed Civil War* age Tom Holland underneath, I'd never be able to find them intimidating again.", ">\"At Nando's I'm a Medium, or Hot if I'm feeling adventurous. Extra Hot is too far gone for me.\"\n\nOh, buddy...", "Cool but y'all need to put a fuckin timestamp in the title for these 45 minute videos", "He always seems so - excitable, and like dumber than a bag of rocks. It’s endearing", "I wouldn't say its \"artificial\" its still a pepper extract, but the heat comes from habanero extract, instead of the pepper itself, and therefore it changes the taste and perceived hotness. \n\nThis post goes into more detail \n\nhttps://www.reddit.com/r/hotones/comments/jzlin3/da_bomb_evolution/", "Da bomb is great tho if you wanna add some heat to a bolognese sauce or a soup for example. Not ideal on wings at all for sure.", "Yea he’s a pretty shit interviewer. It’s just weird to not be conversational at all.", "Guess what? You’re fired bud", "It could really work. Tom Holland was 20 years old in Civil War. \n\nHe would have been ~18 at the time of shooting Star Wars as Finn. That's about the same age as a rookie \"stormtrooper\" in every other nation's military. \n\nFor once, the casting would have actually been age-perfect. \n\nStill wouldn't have saved the movie though.", "I want you to know I didn't quit.\n\nDidn't you? By definition?", "They actually seem to go to the guests rather than vice versa, nowadays. Their set is just two chairs, a table, and a black backdrop so it’s pretty easy for them to popup anywhere. I think like 2 or 3 episodes ago they did the episode in the middle of a stadium, but it was literally impossible to tell until they lowered the backdrop and showed the stands.", "Yeah drowned a totinos pizza roll in it to try it. It’s gross. Like burnt or stale bbq saice? It’s just pain.", "does he actually?", "Having watched from early on, I get the impression that they pivoted from hot sauces that were designed to cause pain, to ones that can accentuate the heat without sacrificing any flavor (Da Bomb excluded). This might work a little better for their marketing tie-in with the Heatonist store.\n\nI got the full Season 15 (I think) pack, and found all of them to be really enjoyable in different applications. The Los Calientes Rojo is one I continue to buy regularly, that shit is absolutely outstanding.", "Interesting take...I started watching Hot Ones years ago simply because I thought Sean's interview style and questions were phenomenal and elicited completely different replies than the typical late night interviews which always feel exactly the same to me to the point I've wondered if the movie studios / record labels provide the questions.", "Retired double agent", "Maybe just knowing how many people have gotten through it now makes it easier, like a part of it is psychological and it being more unexpected can make you freak out more.", "i own the 2nd hottest sauce from the last season. eye of the scorpion. 700k scoville. i consider myself a fairly advanced spicy food eater and that stuff is not a joke and its not even close to the scoville of the last dab.", ">Ben Segura\n\nI love his podcast with Burnt Chrysler.", "I liked it. Episode VIII too.\n\nCan't make a case for Episode IX even if I were paid to, though.", "Doubt it for the next one but seems plausible in the future with Hawkeye heavily hinting at Marvel Netflix characters returning soon.", "chomo-lula sauce.", "I liked them too! Especially TLJ. BUT, I think that the person your are responding to is referring to chaos walking.", "I fundamentally disagree. I'd still watch Sean Evans give interviews without the Hot Sauces, he's just a great interviewer, good at leading a conversation. The Hot wings are like the disarming cherry on top that put it over the edge, but it wouldn't have gotten this popular if Sean Evans wasn't leading the show.", "Weird. I liked VII and IX, but not VIII. I always figured if you like the first one you hated the second one but like the last one and vice versa.", "I’m just not a fan of his emotionless-ness. He has some decent questions but he’s just flat emotionally.", "Cholula is half as spicy as Tabasco sauce. Saying you dump that on chips isn't bragging lol.", "I wonder if that is why he doesn’t seem phased by the hot sauce. Sort of a flat emotive response all around.", "I am just here to call out your bull shit on insinuating that his scrawny British size has anything to do with how well one can handle hot sauce. Relax there kid", "The interviews are the point of the show but the reactions are the hook used to get people to watch.\n\nThe hot sauce knocks down the guard people put up when interviewed and you get more genuine reactions and answers.\n\nYou can see how much work Sean and Co put into researching guests to ask deep dive questions that you won't normally hear on normal interviews.", "Do you have a favorite hot sauce?", "No he didn't.", "Language!", "Oooooo zip......recruiter!", "I tried some of these once with a friend. We had #1, #5, da bomb and the last dab. After you eat da bomb, the last dab doesnt seem as bad as it should for being the last one. We had to take a second bite because of how muted it seemed after da bomb. Da bomb feels like ingesting straight poison.", "Anyone who’s tried Da Bomb knows there’s absolutely no redeeming qualities other than the reaction it gets from celebrities.", "\"I'm good with spicy foods, my mom is INSERT_ETHNICITY_HERE.\"", "Nope", "Tom is great, may his pitbull never kill a child.", "The hilarity of the phrasing of this sentence really caught me off guard", "Gotta hate when hot sauces think pain is a substitute for actual flavor.", "It's okay to enjoy things just for what they are. You don't have to be a dick about everything in life, you know.", "Oh my god yes! I have done this a bunch of times. Literally just like dip one fork prong into the bottle like 2cm, don't try to pick up any extra and that will make a whole bowl of ramen nicely spicy", "You find them intimidating?", "I must be mistaken then.", "lol you pretty much nailed it, and described Da Bomb perfectly", "The best part of this interview is when he mentions Paul Rudd’s interview and does the “Look at Us!”\n\nNow I’m just imagining everyone on the set of Endgame just going “Look at us, we’re in the MCU, we did it.”", "But type is weak to fire, but damn, what a Bussy", "What has being scrawny or British got to do with someones ability to take spicy food? Lol", "lmao! You are right. I had absolutely forgotten about that movie. Didn't remember that was its name. (Haven't seen it neither but watched the trailers).", "Yeah.. the moment adam driver removed his helmet and threw a tamper tantrum, i was not able to be scared by him. So i get what your saying.", "Tom Holland would love to work with John Bernthal again? \n\n\nthere are more than a couple amazing stories with Spider-Man and the Punisher trying to wrestle through their differences. would be fantastic as well to see that relationship on screen. with Bernthal's character trying to teach Holland's that he isn't doing enough and Spider-Man coming the closest we've seen yet to snapping...", "> Dosing the last bit of your friend's meal was always the height of humour.\n\nIt's just a prank bro!", "Veneers.", "There's no way you've actually watched this show, the Hot Ones interviews are among the best of all interviews I've ever seen period. The wings thing is like a funny gimmick on the side but at this point I would keep watching them even if the wings were completely gone.", "This is where i draw the line with hotsauces. No extracts or phone refined or in other way processen capsaicin.\nLet me have the real chili, and nothing else.", "No thanks I don’t want spicy bologna soup /s", "Well yeah we know what pizza rolls taste like but how was the sauce?", "I liked all three!", "Yeah I admit it was a bit of a dick move 💁 but we were all good mates who got each other back and had fun with it, plus never went so far as to destroy an entire feed with it, just dabbed a tiny amount at the end", "I think all three are varying degrees of fun for different reasons. It depends on what you want out of Star Wars. You want zippy serial adventure, VII. You want more time spent on character arcs, VIII. You want lore deep cuts and Star Wars doing a Goonies, IX. I think a lot of people built up the originals so much in their minds that they forget Star Wars is inherently kinda silly and family friendly.", "YALL KNOW WHAT A BANANA SPLIT IS?!", "Nah, Lorde set the bar. \n\nNot only did she finish every wing, but she barely even sweat and didn’t touch the drinks. \n\nShe even called Da Bomb delicious.", "I feel like it's more and more rare to see people tap out though.", "Alton Brown's take on Da Bomb? [This is hot but it's not good.](https://youtu.be/T1-k7VYwsHg?t=955)", "Yeah it sounds like a prank sauce and I'm actually glad they change it up now with regular good hot sauces.", "Is he good at leading conversation? His questions are so scripted and he rarely asks followups.", "Yeah. The original sauces looked like cheap novelty sauces designed to be painful. Now they have sauces that are actually meant to be good sauces.", "I've tried a bunch of the sauces they've used on the show. Da Bomb and Mad Dog 357 were by far the worst. The Last Dab is downright tasty compared to those", "I can see that. That’s less of an issue for me but one thing that does get to me is what feels like over pandering to his guests. His reply to any issue they’re having with the spice level is to say he’s right there with them even if they’re only on #4 and you can tell he’s totally fine…", "Looks awful", "My brother bought some Last Dab and it actually was really good. Definitely the kind of spicy that I like.. Which is taste, get the spice and instinctively eat more to try and outrun the heat.", "It's not a clip, that's the title of the video. Hot Ones videos are all titled this way.", "You're not scared by a force user that throws temper tantrums? Cuz thats pretty fucking scary when you're a normal ass person standing right next to them.", "Paid advertising, hailcorporate.", "I only watched the last one cause my brother wanted too see it.. I knew the story and stuff but man the editing of that movie gave me whiplash.", "\"Mmm, delicious wing.\"", "Watch an episode of Hot Ones while high on shrooms. It’s a wild ride.", "Give Rian Johnson an award for actually making him seem menacing, or at the very least unhinged to the point of \"oh, he WANTS to do all this; it isn't the 'dark-side' making him do this, he WANTS to be a psychotic ruler.\"\n\nBest thing that could've happened. Then JJ turned him back to Moody-boy and put the mask back on, because that's what you want from a really gifted actor - a covered face with mediocre dialogue.", "I live in KC and have been using Da Bomb Ground zero for a long time. They are made locally at a sauce place called Spicin Foods, now. That stuff is absolutely fucking murder. I use it to make super spicy burgers and my grandma loves to use to for spicy Chex mix. The place has great non hot sauces!", "its probably very easy for them to do the show wherever, seems like its basically just a table in front of a black curtain", "I liked VIII the best of the three. I enjoyed VII but that may have also been the spectacle of it. I did not like IX.", "I also bought some and figured out it’s use. I mix a tiny bit in with any dipping sauce to make it spicy. By itself, no way.", "That's what happens when you don't follow proto.", "I know you’re joking but it really is acrid", "And I think the other guy eating the wings at the end is one of Tom's younger brothers", "Brent...Krishna?", "Tom Holland is a treasure!!! My favorite Spider-Man yet! Also I would love to play golf with Tom", "I think now that the show has gotten so big many of the guests watch the other episodes & get competitive with the other celebs. Sean is good about not being forceful & lets them quit if they want but many of the celebs wanna keep pushing", "Darth Vader didn't throw tantrums, he just choked people", "What’s the point then? If it tastes like shit already and the artificial spice doesn’t add anything but pain, why even bother putting it in your body?", "VII was fine. VIII wasn't very good but I think is visually my favorite of them all. I heard IX was terrible and never got around to watching it.", "Black garlic reaper, both Los Calientes, pirates lantern, and heartbeat are all some really good ones. Most of the sauces actually made by hot ones slap pretty hard. Da Bomb is garbage.", "Mexican here, tried it, its kinda spicy.\n\nI can hold my chiles but there was this one salsa in a little market in Yucatán that had me in tears, my lips swollen", "It's what makes us human.", "Unpopular opinion time: Sean is a terrible interviewer.\n\n&nbsp; \nHis prepared questions are usually pretty decent, I'll give him that. But he only ever does two things:\n\n1. Ask a single prepared question\n2. Introduce the next hot sauce\n\nHe does nothing else. Ever. \n\nNo follow-up questions. No delving further into the guest's anecdotes. No off-the-cuff improvisations. No \"I can relate to that\" replies of his own. \n\nThe only indication we ever get that he even pays attention to the guest's answer are the occasional mild chuckle, maybe 3 or 4 times per episode. \n\n&nbsp; \nAs an interviewer, he's a complete non-presence.\n\n&nbsp; \nI realize they want the celebs to be the focus and Sean wouldn't want to make it all about him, but there's a balance between letting the guest have the spotlight and just sitting there like a sack of potatoes being talked at.\n\nI just find Hot Ones super awkward to watch as a result, since it's essentially watching a one-way conversation and I almost feel awkward for the guests that their replies almost appear to be completely ignored. Has to be a really interesting or charismatic celebrity for me to make it through an episode.", "Can't knock the guy too much for preparing the best questions this side of Nardwaur, that's kind of his spiel.", "When I was in college (around 2014) my roommate bought some and we would always put one or two drops in a whole dish of hamburger helper. Even that small amount had a big effect on the whole dish. If he put more than 2 in I couldn’t eat it. Then again I don’t handle spicy food well.", "Yeah he and his team are great at writing questions, but the format is basically a Q&A, not a conversation.", "I'm kinda surprised they didn't dig into Billy Elliot at all. Being in a West End show at that age must have a few good stories.", "Just add some chili powder no?", "Dax Shepard did great too I think.", "I am lorde, ya ya ya", "The real champ is Coolio for emptying the whole sauce and finishing (Then regretting it a few seconds later).", "Some of the biggest failures have been the best episodes too. Eric Andre tapping out mid-interview because he drank a gallon of milk as a recent example.", "pretty much, it tastes terrible, but its painfully hot haha", "da bomb and similarly extreme pain hot sauces are designed this way on purpose. they aren't stupid. it's a novelty.", "Who wants to watch the same type of character again?", "Hot ones peaked with Gordon Ramsey.", "That's definitely not what Da Bomb was made for. It was designed for pure pain and it worked out for them because it is known as the hardest hitting sauce on Hot Ones since season 1.", "I don't think anyone responsible for Da Bomb is under the impression that they're making a tasty hot sauce. They know what they're doing, they manufacture pain.", "If your in Australia there's a brand called Byron Bay chilli Co. All their sauces are fantastic, but the mango habanero is my absolute favourite.", "Well, you're supposed to try to find them a bit intimidating at least", "Idk if I would like that sauce flavor wise, but it’s slated as higher SHU than beyond insanity. If they use the same oleoresin extract technique then it can fuck right off. Their hottest sauce, is 1.5m SHU, and as I type this, I just took a dab of “the last dab Apollo” and it’s rated at 2.5m SHU and I’m pretty fine. I drank some water and it’s fading quickly. The reason Da Bomb is so treacherous is because the capsaicin oleoresin extract basically coats your mouth like an oil and emulsifies with your saliva making the bell curve of pain much much longer than something like the last dab. Apollo was like a sharp spike in pain with a short plateau and a subsequent sloping down to almost nothing as I finish writing this.", "That's fair. Yeah, 'conversation' isn't the term I'd use for his style either. Still great interviews though, better than almost anything you'll see on TV imo.", "Ricky Gervais too, but let's be honest, who is surprised?", "Everyone that comes out of BRIT school seems to be like that.", "I was sort of going based on flavor.\nETA: In one breath you said it wasn’t garbage, it just tastes terrible! Lol, same point I was making.", "I don't think yall are talking about the same kind of heat.", "Exactly, it's just kinda weird.", "Yeah... the last dab is quite good. I'm actually slowly but surely going through that whole container.\n\nDa Bomb? For the lolz and letting people try it out as a dare.", "while i agree, they likely edit out his responses to cut the episode time down and focus more on the interviewee's responses", "Well, considering how good the original trilogy was when it came to character development, and considering how Ep. 7 copied basically everything from Ep. 4 except for the characters, maybe they copied the wrong things.\n\nI mean Rey had godlike lightsaber powers with no training. Totally unbelievable. That's not a new type of character that's better off for being new.", "We all love Lorde and how awesome she was, but this is why we watch. Just watching celebs get humbled by chicken wings", "Lol are you really judging someone’s spice tolerance by the way they look? And 200 people upvoted this shit? Wtf are you ppl on 😂", "aka \"because I can\"", "People who like very spicy food have been found to have a pleasure response to the pain triggered by capsaicin. We're basically masochists.\n\nEdit: I'm an idiot", "The Graham Norton show with him, Zendaya, Henry Cavill and Gugu Mbatha-Raw was great and hilarious if you want to see them all open up a bit.", "Sean's fake teeth are distracting AF.", "Da Bomb is like being pepper sprayed in the mouth.", "That would change the taste. They're trying to say it's a good way to add heat without changing the taste.", "Guy Fieri established his presence at the top of the food chain by eating all the wings, no milk, no water, no bread, almost no reaction to any of them.", "I mean there's no reasonable situation where you can't put enough cayenne powder (for example) into a sauce or soup. At what point does it become a hot sauce in itself?", "Da bomb is an abomination of a hot sauce and should be purged from this earth", "It’s his brother Harry, who works as Tom’s assistant (and does a lot of the promo videos for Spider-man).", "Guess that's why he didn't get the job, he really was a little short for a Stormtrooper", "JJ Abrams", "Ok I was waiting for this guy to go down and be needing a doctor or shit himself or something this was clicked bait", "> She even called Da Bomb delicious.\n\nRandy Marsh is a savage.", "They copied enough OT stuff in TFA. Going with confident, enthusiastic hero versus bitter insecure villain is a fresh idea.\n\nYour mileage may vary at the execution.", "> but do any of these people strike you as the type of person who would crush it in a spicy food eating contest\n\nevery british person I know loves ridiculously spicy food - so for most of them, yes, yes they do.", "Don't quote me on this, I have not done the science/math but it would take a metric shit ton of cayenne to match extract heat. Like I don't think it's physicallly possible or at least reasonable to try.", "That's the one Alton Brown threw in the garbage right?", "If we're doing unpopular opinions, here's mine.\n\nTom Holland gives me strong Tom Cruise vibes. Intensely friendly and silly, but with nothing behind the eyes.\n\nI'm gonna throw a guess out there and say he'll get weird af in the next 5 years. I doubt it'll be full blown cult shit, but something.. Jared Leto-y.", "I think my favourite is Alton Brown. He may as well have been doing a wine tasting for all the reaction he gave to everything. Just giving tasting notes and critiquing the flavours of all the sauces.", "YOU GUYS ARE DOING GOOD!", "As I recall that was the one sauce YG actually thought was kind of hot. \n\nYG is still my favorite Hot Ones because he's just completely and utterly unaffected by the sauces. Riff Raff a close second because of how unbelievably quickly he can drain a Corona.", "I’ve run the gauntlet with friends and da bomb is by far the worst. Last dab is not as hot.", "There are a few Da Bombs. Which one is #8? Evolution? Beyond Insanity? Ghost Pepper Hot Sauce? Something else?\n\nNinja reply edit: it's the first one", "Updated my post to clarify Da Bomb Beyond Insanity is the brutal one", "Better tell all the \"Not my Kirk,\" folks.", "Fair enough. I suppose the term \"some heat\" is subjective.", "Fair point.", "And who ever claimed Tex Mex was ever suppose to be spicy? It's not at all trying to be spicy, it's trying to be meaty, greasy and cheesy lol.", "VIII had issues but it made me think that if Rian Johnson had control for the whole trilogy it would've been way better, I enjoyed a lot of the themes. The biggest problem was a lack of a cohesive vision and episode VII being a kinda lazy episode IV didn't really help set up a compelling narrative.", "Sean has said that if a guest requests to not eat the hot stuff they'll oblige and not call them out. So I'm suspicious of anyone who glides through.", "I'm somewhat aware, I just don't try to argue online anymore and I eff up so I just want to say I'm wrong, give them a win and move on.", ">but do any of these people strike you as the type of person who would crush it in a spicy food eating contest.\n\nLol, what does this kind of person look like in your mind? Many of the best competitive eaters are skinny people. What does a spicy food eater look like in your mind?", "100% agree. My wife ordered me a bunch of sauces for my birthday, and Da Bomb completely destroyed me. No milk, water, or ice cream can save you.", "Man, I got a bottle as a present for my brother for Xmas, and this thread has me worried now, lol. We are not great with spicy food in general.", "someone should get that man a guitar", "They built up the aliens for so long, then just total disappointment... Only one scene!", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huH-NMv1ad4", "I totally agree. VII was a fun time, VIII looked beautiful but ultimately was too different than VII for people I think (I enjoyed it quite a lot), and IX was just JJ trying to dismantle everything that was done in VIII. Either have one director for all three or don't do them at all.\n\nAs it stands it was just a trilogy made via a game of Telephone with a bag full of pointless callbacks to keep things interesting for the fanboys", "Nope that was Dawsons lol. He put Da bomb at #9/10", "Seemed fairly obvious to me that flavor was the point", "I swear to God its just like they repurpose pepper spray by bottling it and slapping a \"hot sauce\" label on it. Tastes like ass and has a burn that just doesn't quit.", "The pain from the artificial spice causes an endorphin rush that many people love, and even get addicted to. Not my cup of tea at all, but people who love extreme spiciness are often chasing that high rather than the taste of the food itself.\n\nThere are also people who get off on having their balls punched repeatedly. Some people's brains are just wired differently.", "what", "The comment they were responding to was talking about taste and they added their list of ones they liked and that's when you jumped in.", "lol the khalid ep was great.\n\nalso i think it was bobby lee who went to pee afterwards and got in all over his dick and needed a medic to come help lmao", "I understand the ole ballbag needing an Iron Mike speed bag workout but shitting fire for dopamine? Couldn’t be me.", "DJ Khaled was a real pussy on his episode. lol", ">Tastes like ass and has a burn that just doesn't quit.\n\nImmediate thought \n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFC4-pGyABg", "May you get pancreatic cancer.", "I've talked to a lot of people who said they enjoyed the first, hated the second, and then IX came in like a monkeys paw wish. Like it granted them what they wanted in such a disjointed and incoherent way that they consider it the worst movie in the franchise by far (admittedly none of them had seen the christmas special)", "A long time ago I made the mistake of dipping a french fry in Mad Dog 357 as a bet at work. I had to go home because it just wrecked my stomach.", "Get the stamp.", "I actually agree with everyone’s perspective including yours.", "\"self masochists\"??", ">self masochists\n\nredundant", "That was awesome. Thanks for introducing me.", "Also I can’t imagine there’s a lot of authentic TexMex in Britain lol", "Wtf do I need to \"own up to\" lmao?", "The Sand People would like to have a word", "Same, personally I thought Mad Dog was actually hotter than Da Bomb (which makes sense, it used to be slotted after it). Both are extract sauces though, so it makes sense. \n\nFlavorwise I actually like 357 a lot more than DB, and while I never directly use it on stuff by itself, it works great to punch up wings when they're not spicy enough. A handful of places near me have their \"hottest\" wings that are never really all that hot, but their buffalo sauce is tasty, the wings themselves are a good size and taste great, and I still want them so I'll give them a toss with a couple drops of 357 (usually 2-3 drops for 8-12 wings). Adds solid heat while still letting the taste of the original sauce come through, win win!", "I ordered a bottle too! It’s still in my pantry. I dipped a toothpick inside, covering about half of it in the sauce and licked it off. It really is god awful tasting and there is genuine pain. I love spicy food but this sauce only exists to cause pain and anguish.\n\nStill a cool thing to have.", "New Mexico and Louisiana are where you'll want to go. I'm from NM and we have ridiculously spicy food.", "You can thank Spicin foods in KC! I live close to it.", "Did a hot ones run myself couple months ago then again the very next day....I like punishment. lol. First time all the way up to the Da Bomb it was like wtf....this shit isn't even remotely hot. Then Da Bomb. Holy fuck balls that was 5 minutes of crying like a bitch then another 5 wishing I was dead followed by some time recovering and deciding if I really wanted to continue. The rest were...ok, these are hot but not that bad unlike how Da Bomb was.\n\nSecond time around just to make sure Da Bomb didn't mess with my \"sensitivity\" I did it last. Pretty much the same thing as the first go around. Regardless of the scoville Da Bomb just hits harder then the ones that were supposed to be hotter based on scoville value.", "Didn’t Bobby also literally shit his pants? lol", "I agree, I've seen a lot of this show and this was one of the most boring episodes.", "Words aren’t enough to explain how much I would love to see this. These Netflix programmes were perfectly cast and John as The Punisher was my second favourite casting choice. Seeing him and Tom do something together would be phenomenal", "This is why I love Alton Brown's Hot Ones. He just got pissed off at the ones that tasted bad and started ranking them.", "Just posted elsewhere that I do the same thing with Mad Dog 357 (which I think is a little hotter than DB as another extract sauce but tastes a bit better) on wings when they're not hot enough. Put them in a bowl, add 2-3 drops of 357, toss them up, and now your wings are spicy but you can still taste the original buffalo sauce. \n\nGreat utility sauce, but not something I'll ever eat by itself again outside of hot sauce challenges haha.", "I can't bevieve he's the same little 14-year old squirt who saved mommy Naomi Watts from the tsunami.", "radcliff and rickman?", "You think the lad drinks the black stuff? I would love to get lashed with Tom Holland.", "Doesn’t Jared Leto literally lead a cult of his own?", "Salty clown isn’t a flavor anyone here particularly cares for either. It seems like you’ve got some personal stuff to work out.", "Its literally the worst tasting thing I've had in my mouth.\n\nEDIT: Just got the part in the video where Tom says almost the same exact thing lol.", "I considered that too, except that\n\n* their episode times are all over the place, and it's not like they're on a network needing to hit a particular runtime anyway\n* it would be a really bizarre editing choice, to purposely make your interviewer seem substantially less personable and your interview substantially more awkward just to save 5% of your arbitrary episode length\n\nSo either terrible interviewer or terrible editor.\n\n&nbsp; \nPart of the enjoyment of a good interview is having an interesting dynamic between interviewer and interviewee. It doesn't have to be 50/50 but at least have an interviewer who appears actively engaged and genuinely interested in the conversation, since they're basically acting as a surrogate for the viewer. \n\nIf you had an in-person conversation that only involved asking a sequence of completely unrelated questions of someone and never giving any feedback/acknowledgement of their answers, you'd give off serious sociopath vibes.\n\nWhen your interviewer could be replaced by a smart garbage disposal with the TikTok voice, it's less an interview and more a bizarrely awkward monologue. Or a creepily friendly interrogation.", "I love how casual he gets away with cursing. Hes a Disney star yet he drops fucks left and right.", "Lol the brewery I go to all the time gorgeous a bottle of this stuff. I'm a vhile head and few of the bartenders are getting into it. I use it all the time but it is very hot, tastes like Dave insanity \"inanity level heat\" sauce but slightly hotter. Same exact extract flavor though for anyone curious", "Great point. Hadn’t even thought about them. Imagine the difference between Rickman and RDJ though. I’m sure any actor would love to have either as a mentor, but the most definitely have vastly different experiences and advise to give.", "Michael Cera called all of the others kid shit except Da Bomb.", "Tom Holland: fuck me\nMe: boy, you have no idea how much I want to.", "Tom Holland is awesome", "I think some of that is just 'working for Disney'. He runs a charity with his three brothers, constantly finds reasons to talk about Nandos (popular chain food restaurant serving chicken/spicy shit). He seems about as down to earth as you could hope for some one in his position. But there's some amount of 'act nice because you're famous and so you don't piss off the mouse' and just culture shock when talking to Americans.", "into a sauce", "I tried Los Calientes Rojo when my friends did a Hot Ones challenge a year or two ago, and since then it's been my go-to for pretty much all Mexican/Tex-Mex/South American food (it fits that flavor profile really* well) I've eaten since then, as well as on eggs in the morning. It's just absolutely delicious and I can't stop buying it lol.", "Mando wants to know your location", "Im not as scared of him as I am sad/embarassed for him. \n\nLook at Vader. Stoic and menacing, barely movee yet thing around him obey his will and people die. I will flee in fear of Vader.\n\nKylo is a teenager throwing a temper tantrum. He is gifted, but he cant even control himself, much less his power. I wont flee as much as stand still and hope that someone piss him off more than me so i can escape.\n\nCan both fuck me up. Absolutely, 100%. But the emotion they make me feel is vastly different. The biggest flaw of the prequel was showing Anakin as a moody teenager, it made Vader so much less scary.\n\nJust like Gus Fring in breaking bad. A level headed vilain is so much more scary than an emotive one.", "I hope their production process doesn’t affect nearby residents. I remember reading that the Sriracha factory’s neighbors complaining of burning eyes and throats, and that was just Sriracha!", "Obsession with spicy food is just a machoman ego stroking competition to see who can handle the hottest foods like a man. None of this shit tastes good. It's just pain. Pure dumbness.", "Jesus, we're talking about comments about hot sauces. Get off your high horse and stop trying to play \"gotcha\" with someone for no reason.", "That's Strange.", "Kristen Bell didn't complain at all either.", ">No follow-up questions. No delving further into the guest's anecdotes. No off-the-cuff improvisations. No \n> \n>\"I can relate to that\" \n> \n> replies of his own.\n\nIt's not a podcast though. If he participated in the conversation more then they would run out of time pretty fast.", "They edit super tight, the end of the episode bloopers where they are just bullshitting gives you a better insight", "He has it #8 so they get hit by it then have the next 2 to come down from it. He explains in many episodes that da bomb is the top of the hurt and intentionally slotted in that spot.", "When in Kansas City, visit the outlet store for Spicin' Foods on Southwest Boulevard, which manufactures Da Bomb, 100% Pain, and a bunch of others. You can usually try new concoctions before they are bottled and distributed, and also pick up a bunch of great hot sauce at a much cheaper price than in other stores.", "There's fishnet stockings inside your jeans.", "If you turned a puppy into a human, that'd be Tom", "I think they sell Hot Ones to the celebs as very quick. I don't think they schedule in time for more questions. Especially since after each wing the celebs probably take time to recompose themselves.\n\nA full proper interview with wings would take like 2 hours. They probably try to have the celebs in and out within 1.", "That's the only reason I ever liked the show lol. It's been so boring the past few seasons, I've generally stopped watching", "I suppose they meant \"self-sadists\".", "Ad plays perfectly but then video is stuck on thumbnail as time elapses", "Hey just to let you know we all could be disliking all commercial YouTube uploads such as this one and just watch and honestly Like actual indie users.", "Oh absolutely agreed. This is 100% a vibe thing for me. All the big Disney players play up the friendliness a great deal, and it is completely understandable - they have to remain untarnished for the duration of their contracts and sell some toys.\n\nIt's feels to me like he got the same \"fake excruciating niceness\" memo as all his cast mates, but he's the only one who didn't need it.", "I want to watch a celebrity eat something really hot, not something really tasty", "It's a dumb modern American thing, who cares about oral care when you can just replace your teeth with a thin coating of porcelain..", "Ew, seems you're right.", "that's weird. have you turned your phone off and on? \n\n(fwiw i just use my web browser and haven't been experiencing what you're describing)", "Am I the only one just now realizing that Tom Holland has an English accent? I've never looked into him outside of movies he's been in, but holy shit, I've never noticed he's been hiding an accent in his acting.", "Have you seen their aim! They can't even hit the main characters with some serious plot armor! /s", "Yes I do think they're doctoring down the sauces. Have you ever had Da Bomb? These celebrities on the newer seasons handle it waaay too well.", "When coating wings out of the fryer, you decide how much hot sauce to add to the base which is usually melted butter. You can totally use less and still get a wing that’s only that flavor", "It's a very similar experience with pain 100%, no joy just tasteless heat.", "Bobby Lee shit his pants in his seat.\n\nGordon Ramsey got it on his dick.", "Cant forget about Halle Berry, she didnt even take a sip of water.", "I would love to get lashed by Tom Holland", "What... so someone looked at a can of pepper spray and though.. you know what.. this will make a terrible hot sauce.. but people will still buy it?", "Rachel Ray ate hers off of spoons, like a boss", "We’ve done our own version if hot ones with the sauces from the show multiple times. Da Bomb always kills me.", "That's the thing about ultra hot stuff. Eating it is bearable, it's the coming out part that suuuuuuucccckkss.", ">On top of that, if cayenne pepper is spicy to you then you are in waaay over you're head here.\n\nWe're talking a spicy soup or bolognese sauce here, not a hot wings competition. And cayenne was just an example...", "Tom Holland is kind of overrated", "Dax was pretty good.", "Too young, not a lot to draw from.\n\n\"So tell me about this photo of you at Christmas when you were six\"\n\n\"What was it like being Spider-Man, and also that second movie you did\" (I realize he's had more than two roles, but really only a couple are of interest)", "Poor lil guy.", "Now you’re suckin diesel 😉", "Last sauce isn’t the worst, mate", "Da Bolognese Beyond Insanity", "Why's Spider-man talkin' all funny?", "The joy in the early episodes was from seeing how far people could make it through the gauntlet, seeing people struggle to answer questions while physically falling apart. It got old a long time ago seeing yet another celebrity react to Da Bomb & sometimes go over the top on The Last Dab, but otherwise act like they're eating unseasoned wings. I still love the concept & Sean is a great interviewer, but I don't really care to watch straight celeb interviews unless they start absolutely drowning those wings in sauce.", "If it tastes terrible, why do they even make it?", "> bitter insecure villain is a fresh idea.\n\nFresh idea? Sure. Good idea? No. Point of the villain is to be intimidating, at the very least throughout the first few movies. Kylo choosing to take off the mask and act like a man-child during the first act of the second movie doesn't make you fear or take him seriously.\n\nThere are ways to make an insecure villain still be treated with fear and seriousness and one of the big drawbacks of the new trilogy is that they failed on making him or the first order, anything but serious.", "I think Halle Berry blazed through the wings too", "Carolina Reapers are honestly one of the best tasting peppers, and it's really unfortunate that it's not a flavor more people get to experience. One of my favorite sauces is the Pain is Good 'Reaper-Acha'. It's mostly reaper-mash, and it is good. Very hot, but very tasty.", "/r/nocontext", "Pretty sure I immediately bought all the sauces he really liked after that episode.", "“I’ve never taken an L.”\n\n-Quote from man in process of taking massive L", "It's actually great for making other stuff hot while adding a smoky, chipotle flavor. I used an entire bottle basically just on salsas and chilis.\n\nOnly a lunatic would put it straight on wings.", "Rachel Ray was the hottest fucking chef when I was a kid. 30-Minute Meals? Why stop there? Why not 60? 🥴", "Khalid was and is such a little bitch.", "It's a lot easier to go overboard on the 357 because it actually tastes good. DB is a miserable experience all around without the novelty of it.", "Tbf thats your experience with it, my friend gave me a small spoon of it as a joke, and other than being a gross flavour the heat was manageable. I found The Last Dap to be a bit worse for heat, but a better flavour", "She's a Kiwi too! Not a people known for their spice tolerance.", "TIL that nerf is a verb", "Padma Lakshmi also demolished the wings without seemingly any effort. Her and Rachel Ray are my high bar for handling the spicy wings with aplomb.", "I've finished a bottle and I've thought of getting another. It's great for spicing up salsas and chilis. It's not intended for undiluted, direct consumption: it's very hot, very concentrated, bitter, and smoky. It's a chipotle extract sauce, it does what it says on the tin.", "It's not artificial, but is an extract and it makes all sauces with it in have a distinctive, horrible, bitter, almost chemical taste. Once you've had a sauce with it, you'll instantly know it in every other sauce that has it. The way it burns is also totally different. It's an instant, really harsh, sharp intense heat pain instead of building like an oven or needling like a mouth full of wasps. I love hot sauces and super hot chillies, but if I see \"extract\" on the label it goes back on the shelf.", "Yep me and my friends did the full gambit one day for fun and we all stopped and suffered for an hour after da bomb. I really saturated our wings too which was a terrible idea.", "Its purpose on hotones is pretty clear, to throw off the guests who are handling the spices", "When I first watched VIII I thought that it was the worst of the new movies, maybe even after IX, but I've really grown to appreciate it a lot", "Bro i felt exactly the same, first time noticing, like it doesnt matter but i was like, whoa wtf is going on", "It’s absolutely not solely an American thing. It’s a western rich person thing.", "Let us not say the word of curse!", "Ex wife used to just eat crackers with the last dab... I've read somewhere that birds can't sense the heat from peppers so pretty sure she was part bird.", "DaBomb is no joke. It's hot just for the sake of being hot. Stupid hot.", "There's a few guests who they have traveled for but the majority still has to visit, Mila Kunis said she saw Salma doing the show so they both were on set and that was this season, also, a while ago a guest mentioned they met another actor who was in the building to do an interview for complex iirc so it sounds like it's usual for them to get people when they're promoting something in LA.", "Brad Underwood in the State Farm Center at the University of Illinois!", "I was under impression the sauces got more and more spicy?", "That's pretty cool! I always thought it was up to Disney to handle the promos", "Zero respect for anything that comes out of his mouth", "Haha. Of course he did.", "Hell yea I'll check them out thanks for the recommendation", "That's what's in pepper spray, right?", "Amazing answer, a free reward for you", "Last Dab really is a good sauce. I've been impressed by all their in-house sauces.", "Back when Habaneros were really the most accessible spicy pepper on the market, almost every hotsauce had to get their extra heat by extracting and refining the capsaicin from peppers. Once ghost peppers came on the scene most of the brands that relied on capsaicin extract switched, and now there are multiple breeds of crazy spicy peppers that make using the extract unnecessary, which is good because all of the extract-based sauces tasted pretty awful and anything actually pepper based will have a ton more flavor.\n\nIn particular, I remember [Blair's Hot Sauce](https://www.blairsdeathsauce.com.au/) being at the forefront of getting more and more refined levels of extract, with higher and higher scoville counts (and tons of marketing with outrageous prices). I'm glad that era of hot sauces has ended.\n\nSource: I collected hot sauces back in the 2000s. Still have an unreasonable amount in my fridge, but nothing as dumb as Da Bomb.", "I've had Da Bomb on mexican rice - about 4 drops mixed in - I thought it brought out some nice flavors from the food. But yeah, it's something you need to be careful with.", "It's the first time I've ever heard him speak in his native accent for any length too! Kind of bizarre to hear \"fuck me, mate\" come out of his face. It also kind of makes him more endearing lol.", "God when is this dumb hipster culture of one-upping each other with hotter foods, to the point of being inedible, going to end?", "hahaha", "Seriously, she was giving such eloquent answers while destroying the hottest wings. Probably one of my favorite guests they've had on the show.", "I bought a bottle and never took the wrapper off... 'Not today, maybe tomorrow...'", "Yeah normally the host of this show does some deep cuts; I've been impressed by previous questions. It felt like they didn't put as much effort into this one, sadly.", "Brett Crystals", "You can enjoy it. But people playing around with the snippet, that's just nonsense.", "They're brand-spanking new since he keeps tonging them.", "I mean, working in a hospital pharmacy I have dispensed Botox to the floor before for different uses. It's not just for wrinkles.", "But they had guests who didn't even get halfway, there's no reason to pretend they got to the end.", "I think he was trying to break the bog-standard SW story, but chickened out at the last second. I could see how spreading it out over a trilogy could work.", "> doesn't make you fear or take him seriously.\n\nThat's fine because he's the unstable son of beloved heroes. Mustache twirling badass would not work in that context.\n\nThe intimidating villain is supposed to be Snoke. You're supposed to fear what he will unleash in Ren.\n\nThey had the puzzle piece you're asking for, but they didn't execute it well.", "Down on Sw Boulevard just after subway if your coming from 35/Rainbow", "lots of semi correct responses here, but ultimately:\n\nYou make a chile. You make it taste great but it needs heat, you put a few drops of da bomb in, you stir it up, the whole pot now has a decent amount of heat because da bomb was so dilluted. It really isn't meant to be used on its own except as a niche novelty for the masochists", "Yes Da Bomb is way worse than the Last Dab Apollo. It had no flavor and just generally hurts. Not as insane as I thought it would be though. It’s just really weird and causes your body to react in funky ways. My eyelids were sweating.", "Da Bomb is by far the worst because it’s made with cap extract and taste like poop", "Sounds like what I would do with the dry ghost peppers I had. Sprinkled a few seeds into whatever I was cooking and threw the gloves away. Gave it a nice hint of heat.", "I would like to speak with you about Giada.", "Yes, the type of people who get plastic surgery, touch up photos, and auto tune their voice have no reason to pretend. /s\n\nSean wouldn't have said that if it never happens.", "I like that he referenced Marty McFly and how that is what he was going for. When I saw him in Civil War, and Ant-Man grows into Giant-Man and Spider-Man yells \"Holy Shit!\" all I could hear in my head was Marty McFly saying it in Back to the future. \n\nAlso one of my favourite MCU moments. Paul Rudds laugh makes it.", "Rachel Ray can definitely handle the heat, she can take a pan out of the oven with her bare hands.\n\nI mean it’s because she burnt off her nerve endings or something but either way.", "That and some celebs eat the whole wing while others take a little nibble. Rachael Ray just took a little bit off a spoon for each sauce (no wings). Seemed totally suspicious.", "> It just activates the pain receptors like hell.\n\nI am pretty sure it just messes with the chemical temperature sensors and alters their sensitivity so when we feel the \"heat\" it's actually just our own bodyheat we are feeling.", "Is it that the one Alton Brown disliked so much he knocked the bottle off the table?", "Nah man spicy food is delicious. Some people like to show off but it isn't why most people who enjoy spicy food do so.", "You do realize in England curry is a lot more common than in other parts of the western world ya? It probly seems intense for Wisconsin or whatever but for someone with easy access to Indian food the spice might hit hard, but not ali you.", "Omg Tom Holland as Doctor Who!", "It’s bizarre. My friends and I did a hot ones party a couple years ago where we ordered all the sauces you could from the show, and Da Bomb was by far the worst, including the last dab. It made me feel weirdly high, I don’t know how to describe it. It also tasted absolutely awful in my opinion, most of the sauces actually had a good flavor but that one just tasted like shit and regret lol", "Agreed, and the show feels so forced nowadays. None of the current guests would be caught dead on Hot Ones if they didn't have some annoying project to promote, unlike the first few seasons.\n\nSean never has interesting questions, they're just extremely researched tid bits made to make the celeb look good. Sean had a good sctick going at first but he's a one trick pony who has done the same trick over and over for years now", "Holland helped Berenthal audition for Punisher I think while they were working together, and Berenthal helped him with his Spider-Man audition during that time. They seem like they have a great bond and Berenthal also seems like a great guy.", "I liked seasons 1 and 2 lot but I really don't like this show anymore. I don't like the editing like the added in sound effects. I feel like the pacing is too slow or something I can't figure it out. I want to love this show but I can't anymore.", "By the way his eyes lit up when he saw \"Jonny B,\" I feel like hanging out with those two would be a riot!", "To what, Tom Holland lol? He's in literally everything", "To me it tastes like what I imagine battery acid would taste like", "If they eat the wing they're eating the sauce. There are plenty of episodes where people back out and don't get called out, but they always stop eating the wings", "That was great publicity for Kahled, everyone talks about him every time a new episode releases", "After a certain point they aren't spices anymore and just chemicals.", "Gorden Ramsey got Bobby Lee's shit on his dick? \n\nRamsey must've been fuckin RAW", "That’s the majority of American “hot sauce” type cooking in my opinion. We go for things that are hot, but there’s no flavor. Indian food, Korean food, stuff like that is spicy but the heat is a byproduct of the flavors in the food.", "Chili powder just tastes smokey. It has very little heat, just flavor really.", "This is the best meme of 2021... i mean come on? Look at us.\n\n\nLook at us.\n\n\nWho would have guessed?\n Not me!", "I see, thanks for the response.", "I still think Sharon's pep talk to Randy in that episode is one of the most touching scenes ever on tv.", "It tastes like burned chemicals & pain. 🤷‍♂️", "Fair point. My spice tolerance peaks somewhere between toothpaste and buffalo wings so that’s good to know if I’m feeling risky in the future.", "While cayenne peppers are 30,000 – 50,000 SHU, most chilli powders use hot peppers further down on the scoville chart than cayenne pepper like ancho peppers or poblanos. Generic chili powder often range in the ancho pepper heat range 1,000 to 1,500 SHU. Even if you did find one made with cayenne it would be significantly less spicy with all the other additives it is mixed in with.\n\nThe Bomb Final Insanity is 135,000 SHU so 90-135 times spicier than typical chilli powder so you would basically have to use chilli powder like it was soup.", "You just don't know good soup", "I think it would have made the idea a lot better if they'd had a baby faced kid under the helmet.", "VII had some severe pacing issues. They basically tried to fit what the OG and prequels fit into 3 movies into 1.", "It’s not tasteless I have it time to time. Lots of fun with house guests :). Safely though just one drop.", "I actually got Da Bomb years ago in college before hot ones was even a thing. Used to play drinking games where you could have a pretzel with a small dip of da bomb on it instead of your punishment (like if playing truth or dare and you didn't want to do either).\n\nWe always warned people about it because its really hard to laugh at people when they are in that much pain. \n\nAnd you are right on, it tastes like absolute shit, and has a completely unreal heat level that just doesn't leave your mouth.\n\nMakes me respect the people on hot ones and having to try that sauce, and then be told there are even hotter after it", "Da Bomb is vile. I bought a bottle prudent 8 or 10 years ago and had it for a long time but I eventually just pitched it. Waste of fridge space. Tastes like garbage, guarantees an uncomfortable trip to the bathroom, burns your mouth in a way no natural sauce does. Good for nothing but drunk spicy challenges. I'm too old for those now.\n\nIt is universally reviled on /r/spicy and for good reason.", "I don’t think you are getting it. \n\nIt’s obvious when they don’t get to the end. They just don’t get roasted for it on his show or goaded into going further", "This is the first time i hear him swear", "The Bomb tastes like poo on it’s own but a few drops can spice up a whole pot of chili or a nice curry dish without changing the flavor at all. \n\nI won’t put it directly on food but it is still one of the most used hot sauces in our house… and a bottle still lasts a year.", "You're giving spice heads a bad name here guy. Give it up! Nobody thinks Da Bomb is any good, come on.", "90-135 times of generic chilli powder.", "This is what I’m confused about though. Why would anyone want to do that?\n\nI eat spicy food. I like spicy food. But the hotness is not the draw, the flavor is. Why would I want to take something whose taste I enjoy and add pain to the mix?", "She’s like a sexy bobble head", "Pollock’s brown period", "Yea, da bomb is inedible as far as I'm concerned. Not because of the heat (it's fucking hot) but because of the taste. It's been a long time since I had it but I remember it being metallic tasting, and it ruins whatever you or it on.", "\"Spices\" as a way of describing seasoning that adds flavor is fine. \"Spicy\" food is just shit that is literally triggering pain receptors, it has absolutely nothing to do with flavor. If you taste any flavor from some hot sauce or spices, it's because of other traits, not the ones that cause burning sensation. Eg - you can have the taste of chili powder with 0 burning associated to it.", "I got a bottle around a year ago as a birthday present.\n\nI hated that birthday gift. With all of my everloving being.\n\nDo. Not. Advise.", "I've been adding szechuan pepper paste to my hot sauce mix to get some unique spice but not crazy heat.", "Yeah Da Bomb is just bitter gross pain. I enjoy me some spicy hot sauces but they have to be tasty to be worth a damn.", "Man, I love the flavour of whole Reapers but, christ, do superhots hurt as they move through you.", "At least he started off in a cheeky mood.", "Almost bought a bottle at world market yesterday! So fckin glad I didn’t! I love the show, I don’t even like spicy but I thought fck it I want to see what they go through. Then my o-ring was like, you really sure? And I chickened out…", "I find capsaicin/extract tastes metallic. Very unpleasant flavour.", "You're saying you think some of the hotness is fake or staged? I think you grossly misinterpreted Sean's words.", "Migraines and over-sweating are the two that come to mind that have surprised me.", "Been pepper sprayed, can confirm.", "Could you tell me where an ATM machine is?", "Yeah that’s what I don’t understand. Why is the hotness a draw outside of a dick measuring contest?", "Def didn't follow proto.", "As long as it was R rated and not aimed at the younger audience.", "Which would be a masochist...", "I was annoyed that they made that one #8. I tapped out after that thinking that 9 and 10 would be lethal. Those remaining said that the last two were nowhere near as bad. I tried 10 and agreed, but my record was sullied by that point.", "Save your breath telling people what they like is wrong. You just look like an ass.\n\n>literally triggering pain receptors\n\nEspecially when you have no idea what you are talking about.", "All taste is just chemicals triggering receptors.", "How long have they been adding the ridiculous American cooking show sound effects.", "Na, I don't think that's a real word.\n\n^((I know, I was just being silly))", "My remedy for spicy food: wasabi or super spicy horseradish", "Perfect", "Pain and pleasure are not mutually exclusive. Moreover, extremely spicy food can produce a sense of euphoria that approaches the effects of hallucinogens on a minor scale.", "yeah I think its done for \"packaging\" reasons. They have the hottest one at number 8 so that the guest will have two additional wings to react to while recovering. It would be crazy if it was the last wing, there wouldn't be any kind of triumphant fanfare, just pain haha", "> and on the way out.\n\nI hate super hot (well, for normal people) half my life but realizing how much worse all this is on the way out was the reason I stopped and scale down. One of those days when I visited the toilette for the 6'th time in two hours knowing that the pain would be even worse than the last one made me question if that was really worth the slightly better taste the hot sauce gave me.", "Mr. Wings I don't feel so good.", "Love that five head.", "Frostbite is a clear flavorless hot sauce that just uses capsaicin. It is super hot and really cool to use in recipes for things that aren’t usually hot. I made spicy cheesecake bites once for a hot food party and people freaked out about it. Because it just tasted like cheesecake bites but it was really spicy.", "It is literally as hot as mace", "Bolognese is a funky earthy flavor. I don’t know if there’s room for heat?", "I was really hoping for a question about his role in The Devil All the Time, because that movie is good as hell and Tom was great in it.", "Mad Dog is so gross. After my ears stopped whistling I vowed never to mess with extract again.", "I personally find Apollo to be hotter, but it’s tastier and the heat is delayed. Da Bomb hits you instantaneously, whereas Apollo builds and eventually peaks over a span of about 90 seconds.", "https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-is-it-that-eating-spi/\n\n>\"The answer hinges on the fact that spicy foods excite the receptors in the skin that normally respond to heat. *Those receptors are pain fibers, technically known as polymodal nociceptors. They respond to temperature extremes and to intense mechanical stimulation, such as pinching and cutting; they also respond to certain chemical influences. The central nervous system can be confused or fooled when these pain fibers are stimulated by a chemical, like that in chile peppers, which triggers an ambiguous neural response.\n\nSure man, whatever you say. Totally not just a bunch of macho masochists stroking their egos.", "But not pain receptors.", "Some family and friends did the wing challenge a few years back for new years. Da bomb is absolutely horrible. We saved it for last, so we could actually taste the other flavors.\nFuck that sauce... never again.", "Can confirm ring of fire and that it’s utterly disgusting. They used to have mad dog 357 on there. Another brutal and disgusting hot sauce. You should try it.", "Carolina Reaper always tastes like gasoline or burnt tires to me.\n\nMy buddy got the season 16 box as a gift and we're attempting a full round of wings tomorrow. The new Da Bomb is apparently \"all natural\", but I'm still not really looking forward to it.", "Facts I got Last Dab XXX bottle and it's so good along with the Los Calientes and the Classic.", "That clip is 2 years old", "Most of the upper half are still a kick in the teeth.", "Except it's not directly stimulating pain receptors it's altering the range that temperature sensors are triggered. Its your own body heat you feel.\n\n>Totally not just a bunch of macho masochists stroking their egos.\n\nA person who takes their personal preferences and projects this kind of negativity on anyone who feels differently isn't worth consideration, they are just an asshole 🤷‍♀️.\n\nIf you don't like spicy food then don't eat it, but pretending to know why other people do so is just dumb. Get over yourself.", "People who eat spicy food don't shit fire.. we dont have weak assholes like you non spice eating pussies.", "I guess, Tom Holland would never try that again.", "This isn't a common occurrence. I have a friend who like you doesn't experience the \"butt hole of fire\" effect after consuming spicy stuff. I lived off spicy food most of my life, and always had this effect. It's so common everyone jokes about it. To not have it is very rare. As I've mentioned, I've only met one person who this concept was alien to.", "would be tough to pull that off since the properties are owned by different companies.", "The word you're looking for is 'tautological'.", "It's not even good. There is spicy flavor and then there is whatever da bomb is. The only purpose for that sauce is a show like Hot Ones and giving it to that friend at a party that thinks he can handle anything.", "Dunno if there are pain receptors in the stomach/intestines but my fucking guts hurt for like 18 hours after eating that", ">No mention of flavor then complains that he was talking about flavor. \n>\n>keep digging that hole, you're still wrong, at least own up to it or move on\n\nYou're not even replying to the same person you fucking Muppet...", "Giada's over-pronunciation of Italian words makes my skin crawl. What's sad is my parents met her and apparently she is awesome so I just have to accept her bullshit.", "I wanted to be buried in Barefoot Contessa's frothy loins with Martha Stewart scissoring my foot and Emeril Lagasse slapping our genitals with a nice \"Bam!\" with every hit.", "This is so needlessly hostile lmao", "Also to add heat to a dish without imparting any extra flavors.", "I know I may be in the minority but I’m not a big fan of Tom Holland.", "Do I have to quote it again? I guess so:\n\n>\"The answer hinges on the fact that spicy foods excite the receptors* in the skin that normally respond to heat. Those receptors are pain fibers\n\nIt LITERALLY says the spicy chemicals excite (see: stimulate) the pain receptors. If you continue to ignore this fact then I'm blocking you and moving on.\n\nAs for why a person would call out this macho egotistical behavior, it's because those very same people are the ones who love to push their bullshit on those who don't like spicy food. \"Hahaha this guy's a bitch he can't handle spicy food!\" \"Bro you didn't get the nuclear flavor? lmao what a pussy.\" Nah fuck you for defending those people, and for calling me an asshole when all I'm doing is calling out disgusting egotistical behavior.", "Those receptors also detect touch but that's too nuanced for you to remember I guess.\n\n> Nah fuck you for defending those people, and for calling me an asshole when all I'm doing is calling out disgusting egotistical behavior.\n\nAwww someone thinks their opinion is special.\n\nYou can get all the way over yourself kiddo.", "I'm a hot sauce guy and frequent the hotsauce subs etc. I immediately recognized the bottle and thought \"oh no\". The stuff is terrible. All heat, shit flavor.", "The biggest issue with Da Bomb is that it tastes like shit. There are plenty of hotter sauces that don't taste like you're licking the prostate of the Michelin Man.\n\nI've made hotter sauces using reapers, ghosts, scorpions... Painful, sure, but with good flavor. I can't picture a single thing I'd want to eat with Da Bomb.", "It really felt like VII was setting things up, then VIII threw them all out and then IX tried to go through the shattered pieces and piece it back together.\n\nVIII had some really interesting ideas though, and I loved the whole 'You're nobody.' thing.", "And it exists in 2021 as well. Lawyered.", "Yes, to the star that is Spider-Man whom I had never seen before anywhere. s/\n\nNo, to the hot sauce interview show.", "Yeah you're blocked. Stay in denial, masochist.", "Oh no a total dumbass who can't handle being wrong won't talk to me anymore 🤣", "If you catch some of the chatter, they also seem to do these in batches. Like they'll go onsite, setup, and pop out 10-12 interviews in the matter of a couple days.", "Alton Brown is still my favorite. He wasn't phased by any of them, just either liked it or threw it in the trash", "You are starting to look sold son", "Some people need their opinions to be objectively correct or their little egos shatter.\n\nAnd that's how you end up with u/thisplaceishell", "you FEIND\n\nthat was good", "So uh, did they make the Lakers game?", "Holy shit, the way she went through those sauces without flinching and then ate the entire last wing...", "The Classic is a really good breakfast hot sauce.", "Oh sorry lol, I've never seen a redditor who hadn't seen Hot Ones before, but I should remember that not everyone browses as much as I do", "Wouldn't that be the point of the child soldier angle though?", "My wife got me all the hot sauces for christmas and I thought da bomb was the worst. I didn't think the last dab was that hot so I guess spice is more than scolville units.", "In a snack wars video he says “that’s fucking disgusting” when he eats liquorice iirc", "do you mean with Sony owning the Spider-Man film rights? because that doesn't seem to be an issue lately.", "didnt he trash the room when he woke up in his new suit and found out padme died", "I would most definitely have to do the same. No judgement here. My mild wings at BDUBS hurt sometimes 😂😭😂", "It is more of a for fun thing to mess around with friends, nobody eats da bomb for flavor", "I don't get the point of stupidity such food. There's no flavour just burn. It's like jamming your finger in a door and thinking fuck yeah that was worth it.", "Tom's so British he's never eaten anything spicier than a radish before Hot Ones.", "He went so British, it was delightful.", "My favorite is Padma Lakshmi who eats the spiciest wings without breaking a sweat and says cooley “oh that is spicy”", "it sent my celiac wife to the hospital. they gave her MORPHINE to deal with the pain. its no joke.", "I half agree, you make some good points, but overall I think the fact they have well researched questions and avoid most obvious questions youve heard 100 times before makes it well above average.\n\nThere are much better interviewers, but it only really shines in longer interviews. Some of my favorites are Marc Maron podcast, Conan Jibber jabber, Craig Ferguson when hes genuinely interested, Graham Norton, Andrew Denton (Australia).", "He's got a Rollie on as well. Dudes glowing up from the hot ones money.", "That's a lot of wings for Sean to eat in a few days. His poor ass.", "It wouldn't have been the same character. Just a defecting stormtrooper. So the dynamic between him and Rey would have been different as well and he probably would have been written to be a rookie on his first mission or something. He probably would have had a much larger role though since they did Fin dirty so they could appeal to the Chinese market more.", "Spicy vanilla ice cream science", "John Boyega fits the grunt role very well.\n\nEDIT: Basically Tom really has that boyish look.", "If they weren’t ok with swearing celebs they should not have cast a Brit. We tend to use swears as adjectives, verbs and nouns. Sometimes in the same sentence.", "Don't care for that kid but many people who gone on the show clearly have no tolerance for spiciness. Or at least eat it often. So it's common for many of them to cry and what not but also it's usually the last three that are the spiciest. And that's about the time some of them may hallucinate.", ">Burnt Chrysler.\n\nThanks for the laugh mate. Now if you excuse me, I've got a lot of water sprayed all over my monitor/keyboard.", "Halle Berry was a champ too", "Who?", "Giada De Laurentiis", "Glad this is still helping people understand.", "Feelin’ good on Hot Ones~ 🎶", "\"Pretty good with hot food\"\n\n>Keeps talking about how hot the first wing is.\n\n\"I'm a big fan\"\n\n>Nearly starts on the wrong side.\n\nI'm feeling real suspicious of this Tom Holland guy.", "Pure capsaicin is not tasteless, it's actually quite bitter as well as hot. It's the reason most hot sauces don't use the extract like Da Bomb sauce. It actually tastes horrible in addition to burning and is difficult to hide with other ingredients.", "Yea, like I expect far more people to have reactions at least like Bill Burrs where he is pacing around dying, can barely abswer questions beyond \"Fuck you\" and asked for a couple minute breaks between so he could recover.\n\nI just dont see how so many of these celebrities are downing what are supposed to be inhumanely spicy wings with barely a sweat", "Like a few dabs with a tissue at Da Bomb, but that was it", "Aw but don’t you [wanna see how that saucy fine bologna gets made](https://youtu.be/oPjO4WMMpzg?t=8s)?", "You have killed me, sir and/or madam. I am ded", "It tastes of a tyre fire full of broken glass, in your mouth. \n\nThere are no redeeming qualities other than watching somebody else eat it. Last dab is hotter, but because it has nice flavour, your brain isn't only screaming \"GET IT OUT GET IT OUT GET IT OUT\", it actually recognises it as being food.", "The final 2 have gotten tastier and more forgiving, but still extremely hot. Also people are coming in more fore-warned about it now, less blind bravado.", "Except that once you get used to what turns out to be a relatively mild amount of spice you realize there's a huge diversity to the flavors.", "I think he and the team who write the questions make a real effort to do their research and it always shows in the interview. Definitely a recurring theme that the guests will express how impressed they are by the questions! Not the same old stuff they’re always asked about.", "It was. That's what I wanted to see too.", "I used to use Da Bomb in my gumbo. It was about half a teaspoon for a -vat- of gumbo. And it worked. Stuff is brutal.", "On the other hand, he's mentioned that actually filming a full season of Hot Ones only takes maybe 3 months out of the year. So he probably gets plenty of not-hot-wings-time in between batches.", ">I get the impression that they pivoted from hot sauces that were designed to cause pain, to ones that can accentuate the heat without sacrificing any flavor\n\nThey've talked about that. In later seasons they've worked with Heatonist to curate the lineup to have different profiles and have the spiciness hit in different ways. They just put more effort into it as the show grew.", "Interesting to hear that it's still like that even after they started adding in their own \"hotter\" sauces.\n\nI remember watching the early episodes and I picked up that people started going down hill after the Da Bomb. I don't remember which guest it was but one of them rated how the sauces actually tasted and I remember they really didn't like Da Bomb.\n\nI wonder if the pepper extract amplified the rest of the hot sauces or if the fact that it uses pepper extract + tastes bad causes it to just feel hotter.", "; _ ;", "That was me being cheeky. It's impossible to add just \"some heat\" with Da bomb unless you're cooking for the whole town.", "Many tears were teareth, many sweats sweateth.", "Da bomb is for the moments when you despise all life and need someone to be punished.", "Which do you prefer for actually enjoying on wings?", "That’s really generalizing an enormous variety of foods…", "Don't women have higher pain tolerance for such things?", "It just sucks. It doesn't even taste good, it is purely for irritating your insides.", "I mean you're kinda the one shitting on a thing other people enjoy here. Just because you don't understand the appeal doesn't make it a \"dick measuring contest\". \n\nIt's not like anyone here is saying \"oh I can handle way more spice than you\" etc. We just like the heat. It's fun, adds a little kick.", "Why the fuck would you want to add heat to a bolognese", "What is it with bodyguards and spicy food? Taraji's bodyguard was like Trinidadians love this stuff.", "Uh yeah. Da Bomb is so crazy one small goop on a McDouble is pretty much good for me. Went out and bought it for my brother right after to share the goodness. \n\nXXX last dab is good too, but Da Bomb is way more exhilarating.", "Want a good flavor and burn? Puckerbutt Reaper-racha and Reaper Sauce XXX. The layer has three ingredients, reaper mash, vinegar, and reaper pepper powder.", "... u good, /u/TonguinMySistersAnus?", "Clickbait title, if anything.", "I think our American friends forget how much curry we consume sometimes.", "https://i.imgur.com/i3VO6Pe.mp4", "I wonder if Tom constantly getting hit by the spice put a dent in the flow. It did feel like he was affected a lot more than other guests. Lots of waiting between wings for him to get back to a state at which he could talk without either taking large breaks or coughing/ drinking water or milk.", "Have had a bottle for about 6-7 years and it’s still pretty much full", "Nigella", "But… why? Why would anyone be interested in this?", "I have a tough time with the in part but it's the out part I can't handle. It's rough as guts.", "Gordon Ramsay made me laugh so hard it hurt", "Huh yeah, I agree. I do however love him in it and think he's absolutely fantastic but yeah you're right, there was this huge fear factor to kylo Ren with the outfit and mask. But when he takes it off and it's just Adam driver I'm like huh, I could probably beat that guy up 😂\nLuckily his character evolution for the next 2 movies I think fit his look well, but my friends and I all remarked on his helmet off scene completely killing the moment", "Right? Fuck Pedro Pascal and The Mandalorian \n\n/s", "You realize George Lucas didn't even direct all 3 original films right?", "Yup, 40 injections per hand for my hyperhidrosis", "How so? They made a deal to lend iron man for a few scenes if they could get spider man for a few scenes because it was needed for infinity war / end game. Giving them Punish as a co-star for an entire movie seems very unlikely.", "I can’t stand that fucking idiot", "But the issue with Tom is that he looks and acts younger than he is. Yes he’d be the right age, but he doesn’t seem like the right age.", "Asked my fiancé who she thought would handle the wings better, Peter Parker, Billy Elliott or kid from The Impossible and she instantly said The impossible. That kid was a bad ass, I’m not surprised Tom is so successful because he was fantastic in that film", "They do. I live in the same city as the company that makes this, Spicin Foods. They also have a line of sauce called \"pain is good\".\n\nIs a great place, the gift shop to the place sells all sorts of stuff, they have my favorite hot sauce Flavolcano, and my favorite teriyaki, and they even have fun bottles you can buy where they might have been tweaking a new flavor. They got it right on batch 20, but you can get the \"not quite there\" bottles of batch 1-19 for cheap.", "To make it hotter?", "Lmao yeah you can detect peoples spice tolerance by looking at them", "Bolognese is one of life's rewards.", "Why would you want a hot bolognese lol", "I think people just train for it now to not embarrass themselves. You can buy all of the hot sauces on the show, and most of them will absolutely rip your head off. But if you eat really spicy food every day for like a week beforehand, you can build a tolerance to it very fast and it won't destroy you nearly as much. No one really goes into Hot Ones not knowing what to expect anymore, which does undercut a lot of the entertainment, but I really don't think they're sandbagging the sauces at all. Just everyone is more aware of what you need to do to not bitch out like DJ Khaled or literally shit your pants like Bobby Lee...", "> adam driver removed his helmet and threw a tamper tantrum\n\nThe whole cinema was laughing at that scene. It wasn't supposed to be funny?", ">Tom's a great, super likeable guy, but that would've been pretty terrible, tbh. \n\nTurned out pretty terrible anyway.", "It's basically gained notoriety because of its uniqueness and because it keeps getting mentioned on the show.", "With the candlestick!", "I tried it years before Hot Ones became a thing, and I 100% agree that it's a painful experience (and I had the tiniest amount). I had a friend who consumed this stuff regularly because his heat tolerance was just that high.", "Veneers are up there for me along with lip and cheek implants for face ruining procedures a bunch of celebrities seem to get done. It's like dude, your teeth were great before. We've all seen them, we're used to you like you are, we all love you for you. Then they go and get some big old The Mask teeth. \n\nIt's his money but veneers are not for everyone.", "I bought it to strengthen my heat tolerance. Now I use it as ketchup.", "Tom seems like such a cool guy, really likeable and a really good actor.\n\nFor anyone still not sure what a carvery is, it's a roast dinner buffet style. You go to the counter, choose your meat, they carve it fresh and then you pick your trimmings. Traditionally only served on sundays but some places serve them every day of the week", "Brutal and with no taste. It's just not a very good product. There's hotter sauces with much better flavor.", "Cursing outside of USA is as common as breathing really, even on TV.", "Yeah, I don't think anyone besides hardened coal miners who can't taste anything but the spiciest food anymore would enjoy having that. It's a thing you buy, try once, and then pop out whenever someone is bragging about how spicy they like their food.", "And he went back for seconds there as well", "Harry Holland, that's some nice alliteration.", "Daves something... It's outrageous. I'll see if I can look it up when I get home.\n\nI have a couple of other ones that I believe have a higher heat rating on paper, but none of them come close to the Daves one (it's smokey)\n\nI probably have 4-5 that are hotter than The Last Dab. I can actually eat 5-6 wings with The Last Dab, and enjoy it. It's hot, but it's not unbearable.\n\nIf you've ever been to BWW, and had the Mango Habanero, I'd say those are slightly hotter than The Last Dab. Those are about the hottest wings I'll order to just enjoy.", "I like how the host just kind of shit on him the entire time too. You could tell there was no respect.", "I can't blame him. I recently had my top front two teeth redone (half broken off when I was a kid in an accident, they were due for a redo as they were starting to crumble a bit after about 20 years), and it felt super weird for like a solid 3 weeks. It's been a few months now and it's still a bit odd, but for the first few weeks I just couldn't stop touching them basically all day long. You just don't know how used to your teeth you are until something changes with them.\n\nBiting into things was especially weird. Even if the change is minuscule, the end of your teeth aren't where you expect them to be, and they're shaped different. How your top connect to the bottom are different too. I still haven't really found a good way to bite my nails again.", "You’re right. I was kinda doing that. Sorry.", "Yeah. The Last Dab tastes decent for a \"hot\" sauce, but isn't near as good as Mango Habanero, IMO.", "Da bomb is also a kind of reward. Surviving it is a reward in itself.", "What was the tastiest one?", "Omg I’m not the only one wtf. Speaks in normal American English accent up until mozzarella", "Why would anyone want anything hot? I like spicy food. I'm also starting to wonder whether bolognese has a very different meaning where I'm from. It's not like I douse my morning cereals with Da bomb.", "I feel like Sean Evans should swap surnames with Sean Spicer.", "being predictable is less scary", "maybe on television, in real life not really.\n\nWould I be scared of Gus irl? No. I wouldn’t do anything to piss him off. If I was Hank I would’ve just worked for him for over ten million a year and kept quiet.\n\nWould I was to work for Kylo Ren? No. Never know what he’s going to do, or if he will attack me just because he’s in a bad mood.", "maybe on television, in real life not really.\n\nWould I be scared of Gus irl? No. I wouldn’t do anything to piss him off. If I was Hank I would’ve just worked for him for over ten million a year and kept quiet.\n\nWould I want to work for Kylo Ren? No. Never know what he’s going to do, or if he will attack me just because he’s in a bad mood.", "The only reason it's not last is cause they make their own sauce that they put last so they can sell more of it. Pretty lame.", "I’ll add a few drops or so to my homemade sauces just to give it some kick.", "I have their monthly box. Game changer was when they did last dab mild and classic spicy. Just swapped peppers. Holy hell they were both incredible!", "This is the first episode I watched on Hot Ones and it’s great because you get to see how these celebrities react to spicy food.", "You're telling me if Giada woke you up wearing nothing but an apron and serves you some brew skett ahh, you'd be upset?", "You don’t know him as Finn or a stormtrooper. He’s knocked it out of the park as Spider-Man and he’s an amazing actor, I like to think he would’ve done pretty well", "hold on... \n\n\ndo you think Sony is making these MCU movies?", "say this is how it works. giving them punisher for a movie would be dope - in exchange Feige's teams could get spidey for another movie. \n\n\nhell, they could give spidey deadpool and wolverine, if spidey does a daredevil/punisher thing. \n\n\nit doesn't matter. you're trading aces for aces.", "This is the right take - and the explanation you linked is spot on.\n\nIf anyone wants to give concentrate a shot but not go too hot, take a look into the 100 pound reaper tincture made by Fuego Spice Co. I nabbed some sauces from them and they hooked me up with this for free at the time. It is absolutely delicious, and hits you with the sweetness that’s characteristic of the reaper right off the bat then follows up with the slow burn.\n\nEdit: Adding a note here - they also add in some Balsamic vinegar, which could be what contributes to the sweetness. Either way, I ran through most of that bottle within a few weeks. Great for adding heat to food with a touch of sweetness and not messing with the balance of flavors.", "I have no idea where you drew that conclusion.", "Not really a trade for trade unless they had him for the bulk of the scenes. I don't really see either party agreeing to it though.", "It's not nonsense they have specific uses. Extract heats something up with effecting the flavor profile can be very useful. I dehydrate peppers and use the powder a lot but I also extract the cap and use that when I want things to taste the same but have more kick!", "Some people like spicy. And you can use extract to make things hotter without messing with the taste of your dish", "Yes. There were pictures of him and his brother watching the game courtside.", "Sorry yes, you're right. I misspoke on that. I guess what I mean is at least have the same people sketching out the arc of the movies instead of having competing visions for individuals entries. Like the Marvel movies have different directors and writers, but the plan was there. There was no plan for the Sequels", "Absolutely can confirm this is true. My girlfriend ordered all 10 hot sauces once for my birthday party. We were all good up until we tried Da Bomb.... it was a hot sauce like no other. It smelled a bit chemical-like and alcoholy, like you're not really supposed to smell this shit. When we bit into the nuggets doused in Da Bomb, everyone started scrambling towards the kitchen, the bathroom, outside.... it was chaos. People were drinking milk, eating lemons, meditating. \n\nThe 9th and 10th hot sauces weren't that bad compared to Da Bomb even though they had higher Scoville ratings. I am very skeptical of the supposed 135,000 Scoville units Da Bomb has.", "I laughed way too much at “Satan’s Flaming Dildo”…", "Unpopular opinion: Holland is the worst Peter Parker. He was insufferably whiny in Infinity War and that just didn't make me want to watch the new films.\n\nEven Andrew Garfield is better.", ">They made a deal to lend iron man for a few scenes\n\ni feel like... marvel didn't have to \"lend iron man\" because they Have iron man... \n\n\ni could totally be mistaken, but i thought the deal was - let Marvel Studios make the spider-man movies, and you can get a portion of the license/distribution money.", "If he just said he couldn’t continue and kept doing the interview literally no one would’ve cared. But coming in saying you’re demolish the wings, promote your own wing place, tap out on CHOLULA, and then say you didn’t quit? Insecure man child.", "My first and only experience with Da Bomb was about 10 years ago, one of the guys in the loading dock where I worked had a bottle. A couple of the guys that hung out in one particular break room would use it for dares and shit with each other and some of the truck drivers that came to load/unload. Saw a lot of tough-guy truckers humbled by that stuff.", "Spicy food can trigger both. Clearly.\n\nNow, capcasin isolated? No flavor, just heat.\n\nAnd there can be some element of machismo to enjoying spicy food but, really, for you to claim that's all it is?\n\nSeems pretty clear you've got a chip on your shoulder about this pet issue or something.", "To be fair, that's most of reddit/humanity.\n\nWe're big ol' egos awash in a sea of contradiction, and eventually everyone has a moment.", "It's a form of masochism with a heavy side of macho egotism. It is annoying how it is pushed on people who don't care to burn up their taste buds and used to insult them so yeah it does piss me off.", "I oddly lost a lot of respect for him during this episode from the teeth. Didn’t seem like the type of guy to do that. Looks dumb as hell.", "Yeah, at some point, it's just pain and no flavor.", "My brother got me the Ground Zero version of Da Bomb and it was brutal. But a dab in a batch of chili and no amount of sour cream could fix it. Tried to finish one bowl just to say I did it and not waste so much food, but I was literally tearing up from the pain, eating greek yogurt and drinking half and half between bites. Anything I tried just gave me a few seconds of relief before the pain came rushing back like fucking bulls in Spain. Literally fuck that shit. I'd drink the Last Dab straight before touching that bottle again.", "the last dab XXX is tasty. I haven't tried the Last Dab Apollo", "I used to have a big crush on him, this is a huge turn off. I'm so disappointed", "Women have higher pain tolerances than men.", "The world isn't that binary.", "Med student here, currently studying for a neuro exam which has material on pain sensation. Capsaicin is the “active ingredient” in hot sauce, and it directly activated TRP receptors which are purely pain (nociception) receptors. However, many of these receptors also happen to be activated by temperature and extreme mechanical stimuli as well, which is why our brain interprets their activation as both heat and pain!", "I think this may have been the funniest episode of Hot Ones so far. Loved when he walked off to the crew and asked for a Magnum. His Jon Bernthal impression was great too.", "wtf he's bri'ish?" ]	695	videos	Tom Holland Calls for a Doctor While Eating Spicy Wings \| Hot Ones

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